The Morning Stream - TMS 2277: A Murder of Photographers

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

Fresh Bag of Mitsuba's in Vegas. X-Chicken: Eat Here, You Mutie! Ze Germans Don't Sell Cheetooooooooos. The Craiggiest Craig to Have Ever Craiged. Authors Should Just Shut Up and Type. Two Weeks, Stag...e Three. Dazzler was having a moment. Human Equivalent Of Pop Up Video. The Meta Cut is the Deepest with Tom. It's Your Farts, Marty! Not Enough Moisture this year. Take our Sweet Sweet Water. Brian Dunaway Feud Monkey. Jurassic Parks and Recreation. Marinaded Recommentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS. Fresh bag of Mitsubas in Vegas. X chicken. Eat here, you, mutie. The Germans don't sell cheetos. The cragiest craig to ever have cragid. Authors should just shut up and type. Two weeks, stage three. Dazzler was having a moment. Human equivalent of pop-up video.
Starting point is 00:00:18 The mega-cut, sorry, the meta-cut is the deepest with Tom. It's your farts, Marty. Not enough moisture this year. Take our sweet, sweet water. Brian Dunaway, feud monkey. Jurassic Parks and Recreation Marinated Recommendals with Randy and Moore on this episode of The Morning
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Starting point is 00:01:19 The morning stream is here for what is the date Wednesday, April 13th, I'm Scott. That's Brian. I'm Scott. Hello. Hello. Hello. It's good to see you here on the show. Good to see you two. Yeah, thanks, man. Two weeks, man. Two weeks. We're going to be in Vegas. Yeah. We'll probably, let's see, it'll be Wednesday morning. I'll have a stage two hangover. No, stage three. Stage three. It'll be, I'll have been in Vegas for a couple days. Okay. And we'll be getting ready for a big show at the Artifice Bar. Yeah, I will be 100% sober and not hungover. Yes, that's correct.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Between the two of us, we'll somehow have a show, and it'll be great. Listen, I'll have 12 hours to fix my head is basically what it will be. There you go. I mean, looking forward to it. It's going to be sooner than we think, everybody, and we'll be there. For those that can't come, we'll have lots of little live-streamy things. Exactly. Yeah, I know Monkey Bananas is planning on live-streaming as much as,
Starting point is 00:02:23 he can so nice nice yeah yeah we also have somebody coming uh who will be there to take a bunch of photos while we're there some nice uh pro level photos wonder who that could be not a different guy totally different oh really okay he's not on tv nope but he could do it too i'd love to have both let's have a stack of both and let's combine him and now you got a massive picture pile that nobody can ever get sick of stack of photogs is what we're shooting for okay a murder of photographers that's what they call it that is the that is the appropriate collective of photographers, yes. Now, here's the worst part of the week. I hope this all clears up for travel day, because I don't want to drive in it, but it has been snowing for the last 48 hours
Starting point is 00:03:02 here. A little bit of a break after the big snow yesterday. And then yesterday, late afternoon, just started pouring snow again. And it's just tons of it. And I don't get it. Like, what's going on here? It's April. I mean, I know we have weird April's, but usually not this weird. This is too much. And it's 22 degrees right now. It's freaking cold. Listen, as Prince once said, sometimes it snows in April. I guess he did say that, didn't he? He even sung it. Yeah, for whatever it's worth, we have snow right now going on the mountains, but where I'm at right now, sunny, clear, but 21 degrees, so not warm.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Oh, yeah, that's chilly then. You're a degree. Just warm, I mean, cold and dry, sadly, not cold and wet. That's hilarious, because you're now, you're a degree colder than me, yet you have none of the snow. That's fantastic. Yeah, and we need it, man. We need the, I hope we get a lot of rain this spring because we need the moisture. Yeah, the moisture.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I love how our whole lives, adults around us and Rocky Mountains always say, oh, there's just not enough moisture this year. It's totally true, yeah. Oh, my God. You know, how many years do you and I get like, oh, no watering allowed this year, or you can water only on odd-numbered days that contain the letter H or something like that. That happens sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I think last year we had some restrictions. The year before that, not so bad. But 2019 was bad, I guess. We had kind of a rough, a rough go of the runoff and everything. But, you know, whatever. I guess I shouldn't complain. This is extra runoff. We'll need this moisture.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And we're getting it. Such a fun word. It really is, isn't it? Mature. What a blast. A little moisture. So Arizona, if you need some more water, you let us know. We got you covered up here.
Starting point is 00:04:45 There you go. We can pay us top dollar for our water. You got to have our sweet, sweet water. That's right. So I got a follow-up email from somebody named Chris. All right. Okay. Here's what Chris says.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Chris says this is in response to the Charlize Theron discussion we had yesterday. And the email from Craig. So Craig, this is a follow-up on yours. He says, hi, Scott. In response to yesterday's email about pronouncing Charlize Theron from Craig, I have a request. Can you and the rest of America please pronounce it's Craig properly. It is Craig, not Craig. Thank you, the rest of the world. So Chris says you say it, Craig. I can't do that. I mean, I can, but it's going to take a while. That's a
Starting point is 00:05:32 habit that is real deep, man. I wish I could remember how I, like, if you would have said, hey, say this guy's name before I read this email, I think I would have, I think I would have said Craig. Because we had that guy, do you remember years and years ago at NerdTack? He was a sub in on Frog Pants All-Stars. So he was up there playing with Nicole and Brian Dunaway and, you know, Randy and everybody up there playing trivia. And it was a guy named Craig. And he became the star of that event because he kept buzzing in and getting answers right and, like, won the game for his team. No, he was awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That guy was great. All hail to Craig. But I don't, but I've always said Craig. And the reason I say Craig is I have a cousin. named Craig, and he goes by Craig and says Craig himself. Yeah, he actually lives in near Arvada right now. They moved to Colorado. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Well, you should come visit him because you sure is, haven't visited me. No, I got an aunt. I got aunts. I got cousins over there. I really have no reason not to visit. Yeah, you have no reason not to come out here and visit for Pete Singh. Come over the mountains. A couple of them are a little unhinged, if you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, I know. I know exactly what you're talking about. So, would it help if those of you who prefer the pronunciation Craig spelled it K-R-E-G, like a Star Trek race? And then the rest of you who pronounce it Craig, C-R-A-I-G like Craig. You know, what's the Craig? I guess in, I only say, what's the crack, right? Oh, what's the crack? But you spell it C-R-A-I-K.
Starting point is 00:07:15 See, C-R-A-C? Yeah, there you know. No, if you do, I do like Craig as a, that's a great Star Trek race. Captain, the Craig are hailing us. Yes, they're hailing us with that. We're being held by the Craig Captain. On screen. Yeah, on screen.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Did you, oh, there's a controversy about that. Oh, really? That he should, like, on screen is, you know, a derogatory. No, not that, not that. So he, so there's a new trailer for the third season. A woke Mafia strikes again. Yeah, once again, I hate that term so bad. I do too.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I hate it. so much. Just hearing it makes my guess boil. Anyway, Captain, or the Picard show, right? They got a season three teaser. And in the teaser, they have
Starting point is 00:07:59 him writing a letter to his old friends or something. And at the end, it tells you that Gates McFadden, Michael Dorn, Marina Sertis, like everybody, LeVar Burton, all of them are coming back except Wesley
Starting point is 00:08:18 there's no Wesley, no Will Wheaton no Will Wheaton so he was not invited to the reunion yeah it makes me wonder if
Starting point is 00:08:28 I don't know I not that there's bad blood there obviously Wesley was a controversial character because people were either annoyed with him or now they all love
Starting point is 00:08:37 Will Whiten so they want him back or whatever but was he really that good of a character like really do we need even Star Trek I don't know
Starting point is 00:08:43 yeah well I mean he wasn't he wasn't um for a while he was regular bridge crew but not for as long as these other people no for as long as you know troy and data and riker and warf and all those people he was there when he was young then he went off to the academy then came back for a little bit as he was older and then kind of disappeared in the last few seasons and then they were supposed to there's a cut scene of him in uh well it's the one with tom hardy uh nemesis where he's at the he's at the VR wedding for uh for Troy and Riker.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Oh, right. Yeah. Sitting with his mom and you see him briefly. And there was some scene of him talking and like having dialogue where they cut it all. But you do see him briefly. But that's been it. Like since then on, which was what, 99, 2000, something like that, 2001. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Nothing from Wesley. Just done. Yeah. I mean, I feel like he would have absolutely done it had they asked. I mean, he does the Picard after show and the Discovery after show. Yeah. Like the guy that's doing your after show Is not in your teaser for season three
Starting point is 00:09:49 The guy that was, you know Arguably a regular on the show For quite some time Who does your after show Did not get the invite to the party Yeah, maybe it's Worst's fault Thanks, Wharf There you go
Starting point is 00:10:02 A piece of shit Get out of my sequel Get off the bridge, you little piece of shit Oh, it's been years since we did that 2013 was when that was Nicely done Anyway, so maybe that was it Shut up, Wesley.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Oh, yeah, that happened. So maybe that was a truly just shut up and never came back. All right. Well, Chris, I'll do my best to say Craig, okay? I guess I don't disagree that it's probably always been Craig. It's just I grew up with a kid named Craig, and they all called him that. His parents, my parents, him, himself. He'll say, yeah, I'm Craig.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I can't even think of their last name now. Do you put items on Craig's list or Craig's list? I always say Craig's list. Craig. Yeah. Craig. Craig. Clearly, I think Chris is incorrect that it's all Americans, because you didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 You say it, Craig. I say Craig, yeah. Yeah, you're American. You're a card carrier. I'm a card carrier and American. It's, you know, it's a mountain, Scott. The west of the Rockies, you say Craig, east of the Rockies, you say Craig. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Just going to have to learn to deal with it, everybody. That's how it is. All right. Let's do Babel Royale. Let's get Brian in here. We get the feud to do. Yeah. Feud is fun.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Feud involves you people at home. So if you want to participate, 801-47-1-0-462, we're getting to a little bit of an STP, same 20 people, but if we're going to get it. I know, come on. If you've, you know, maybe wait 30 seconds before you call if you've called in in the last month or two months. Let's get some new voices in here. Yeah, not that we don't love hearing you because we do, but, you know. We do. We for sure do.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I want to mix it up a little bit. Hey, look at this. It's Babel Royals feud monkey himself, Brian Dunaway. Hello, welcome. Oh, feud monkey. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi, Feud Monkey. Hey, is this great or what right here, Brian?
Starting point is 00:11:52 I'm going to play this thing, Dunaway, and I found yesterday. X chicken. X chicken. Ex chicken. So good. Welcome to die. Yeah, welcome to die. Or I am the Lord of Magnet or whatever he said.
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's what he says, too. Really? Yeah. I thought I sent you that one. Did I not send you that one? I thought I did, Brian. Ibit, did you watch the 80s pilot episode of the X-Men before they did it proper in the 90s? And they had like a Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He had an Australian accent. It was like X-Men. Yeah, it was X-Men Pride of X-Men. Yeah, this was right. And he goes, want a piece of fruit? Like he basically has an apple stuck on one of his claws, and he's offering it to. Dingo. You want a piece of fruit?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Fraud? Yeah, that's what the X-Men arcade game was based on that we talked about last night. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The whole story, the story of that game was, I mean, not well based on it, but it was roughly based on it. Yeah, yeah. The translation.
Starting point is 00:12:54 The story goes. I thought that was from, like, Spider-Man cartoon. Like, basically, Spider-Man meets the X-Man. He shows up at the front door of the brother or the brotherhood of evil. Yeah, the School for Gifted. Youngsters. Right. But Kitty shows up there. Now, I'm not saying they didn't re-air it in a certain place, but it was specifically made as a pilot for a show that never took off.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Yeah. But the game sure did. Game did just fine. Oh, here's the line. I did send this to yesterday. This is what it is. Master of Magnet.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's not Master of Magnets. Master of Magnet. Magnet. Just one. Just one. Yeah. Plus, it seems kind of boring. Master of magnet.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Well, that's kind of boring. were his master of like metal or something. That's kind of cool. Yeah. I can manipulate metal. Yeah, he's an idiot. I'll play one more just for fun. You are helpless against my power, X-Men.
Starting point is 00:13:51 That's pretty good. Golly. Pretty good. The scratching, like the 8-bit scratchiness of the voice or 16-bit or whatever that is, man, is so rough. It would have been somewhere in the metal. It was 92. the arcade so yeah probably 16 but also it could have been 24 bit could have been just bad voice modulation for the time which is kind of separate from all of that but i love that stuff i just want i want every
Starting point is 00:14:20 old crappy voiced over video game ever made and have a giant collection which why what made them decided but dazzler in uh the game i mean you know dazzlers was having a moment at that time uh in in the cartoon, you know, we had recently gave her a new outfit and a new attitude and everything, so yeah. You got her short hair and less still wearing the roller skates, I think, but less dressed like a giant disco ball.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, that's true. I don't like Dazzler. I don't like a Jubilee and I don't like who's the other one? There's Jubilee like characters and there's like three of them and I don't like any of them. You're not alone in that. Is that young attitudeish,
Starting point is 00:15:04 kind of character that. She is the scrappy do of the X-Men. Yeah. Yes, she is the scrappy do. And here's the thing. She doesn't do anything. She makes pretty lights. Neat.
Starting point is 00:15:13 She makes fireworks out of her fingers. Big deal. Whatever. You're probably a big Gambit fan. Whatever. Her script her name should be the distractor. Yeah, there you go. I actually do like Gambit.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Distract Magneto. Make some sparkles so he looks away from us. Even though kinetic cards are... I throw cards. Yeah, kinetic cards are stupid. but I still like him. I think he's all right. There's something about him.
Starting point is 00:15:37 All right. Hey, we should take one of these calls. Gambit movie. Yeah. Do you think we'll, I don't know, do you think they ever pick it off the floor? That is Disney Plus at the best.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You think so? Gambit. Not full. Oh, you think so? Like once we get, I don't know, I'd see, I can see if and when the X men get integrated.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We must tell him the truth. Yeah. Then I can see, then I could see I would only in the second MCU X-Men movie I would only accept a
Starting point is 00:16:10 no he'd have to be over at Sony I can't I can't see Gamble it won't happen at Sony they don't have them anymore yeah that's what I'm saying it wouldn't that's what I'm saying that would be the only way I would accept it
Starting point is 00:16:21 oh I see the only way you would get it yeah yeah yeah so when it was Fox it made sense that they would be digging that dirt but they're not going to do it at Disney okay interesting Okay, so. All right. Well, now is the time. This is the place to play Tad Pooley Feud. And we have a listener who's going to participate with us. Hi, who's this? Hey, this is Nick from Texas. A doll 46 in the chat. Well, hello, Nick from Texas. Yeah. I have my own Nick, so I feel like it. We got a father-son bond going on here. I like it. I like it. Wow, okay. Yeah, weird. So he's just began a new restraining order.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, let's make it happen. Hey, Brian, do you want? want to explain to Nick how this works, what he could win? Absolutely. It's time to play the tadpulley feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, Nick, your job is more important working with either your fake father or Brian Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And if your team wins, you get a prize package that includes this war of mine and the ball on Steam. I've heard of this war of mine. heard of the ball. I've never heard of the ball. Wasn't that originally like an unreal engine prototype game and then it went on or something?
Starting point is 00:17:39 Let me look. I can tell you real quick. The ball game. Let's see. Oh, the ball game. Yeah, that's not going to return any results. Yeah. Well, the ball will return far more.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Okay, Steam has it. Mostly positive reviews. Came out in 2010. Swashbuckling archaeologist unlocks the mystery of an ancient ruin that has been hidden for centuries and discovered a mysterious artifact at golden metal shelled ball.
Starting point is 00:18:00 ball. See, actually, this looks all right. My connect was dropped, so they dropped the ball. Yeah, there, I get it. Now, these are, this looks good. This looks like it maybe even holds up. It looks, you know, it's 10 years old, but it looks nice. So, there you go.
Starting point is 00:18:12 The ball. The ball. All right. Is my internet back to normal? Yeah, you were a little crusty for a sec, but I think you're good now. Weird. Listen, I've already uploaded A&TP for today. It went up before the show.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Get off my back. Okay. Yeah. He's talking to the chat room. Yeah, it's not talking to. Yeah, I'm sorry, yes. I'm talking to Claire specifically. We asked 523 tadpoolers.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Put your hands on your buzzards that gave us their answer to this. What is your favorite science fiction book series? I'm going to say, do you say series or just books? I did say series. Okay. Dark tower, dark tower. Dark tower. Show me the dark.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Tower number 10. Steve Harvey would totally back you every time. What was the question against? Steve Murphy? You buzzed in. You can't ask me to repeat. Like, Brian has never done that. Brian Dunnell, you've totally done that before. Never do it.
Starting point is 00:19:20 All right. Dork Tower. Look, you got nine to beat me. It's probably going to be fine. So what are you going to pick? I'm going to go with Dune. Dune. Oh, gosh, dang it. Show me. Doon. No. No. Number three.
Starting point is 00:19:33 That beats it. Nice job. Doesn't beat and score, though. You guys got some work to do. Yeah, exactly. You do have some work to do. So, Brian, you and... That was the only one I really could think of, so we're screwed. Yeah. So you and Nick are going to be a team here. Listen, all you need is you get six or higher, and you're already beaten Scott, so...
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah, plus seven or higher. Nick might be a total genius with the science fiction books. They might. Yeah, totally. All right, Nick, you're ready for this? Are you feeling all right? I got one theory. The answer's on for the tadpole.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. For the board. Yeah, there's, oh, I thought it was showing. I'm sorry. There we go. Sorry, chat. There it is. Thought it was up.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Wasn't. Okay. You guys go for it. By the way, I said buzzards, but you too bad you didn't show that. The buzzards? Oh, they always see that. Yeah, you changed the buzzard to buzzards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, you did? Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I didn't know it was officially changed. I liked it. Yeah. What are you talking about buzzards? It's the button says buzzards now.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Every time we start the show, hands on your buzzards, and the buzzer said buzzards. Oh, no, I know I said that. Okay, see, I don't see the button. So, on my view, I don't see buzzards. He didn't used to have it there. I think he changed it recently to be, you know. So you didn't do it. I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 No, no, no, no. It was Alcabab who was the master of this thing. Good job. It was sadly not going to be able to make it to Vegas, but there was a chance for a while. Yeah. Boo. Boo. Boo.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I want to touch his buzzard. All right. All right, you two. Get your damn guessing going. Let's get our guessing going. What you got? You got any guesses? I would lean towards Star Wars, personally.
Starting point is 00:21:09 That's excellent. That's an excellent answer. Yeah, a lot of it lost. A lot of us lost out of canon now, but there's still a fantastic series of books, absolutely. All right. Show me Star Wars. Number four. Yeah, a lot of people said Star Wars, but then they also would have specific, like,
Starting point is 00:21:28 the the Thron trilogy or Secrets of the Empire, that sort of thing. Right. All right. That's a good direction to go in through, though. Let's think. There's a lot of fan fiction. But this is the Tadpool. You have another one?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Do you think Harry Potter would work? I kind of was debating kind of that fantasy. I was trying to think what the Tadpool may say, you know, because it doesn't have to be right. Exactly. It just has to be what the pat-pool would say. And I think the fact that you said it maybe would also indicate that somebody else said it. So let's just see how many people think
Starting point is 00:22:08 Harry Potter isn't the sci-fi genre. Sure. All right. Divip it's do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Show me Harry Potter. No, that's a shame. More fantasy. Number 11?
Starting point is 00:22:23 No, no, he was up to 14. A lot of people said Harry Potter, but, yeah. And, you know, the fantasy, science fiction, there's some overlap there. Sure, sure. Scott, that gives you an opening. It does. I have an opening here. I'm going to enter this opening now.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Okay. Here's my answer. The Expans books. Of course the Expans. That's a great one. That's probably number one. Around the time that I was asking this question, I think it was pretty darn popular. The final season had not come out yet.
Starting point is 00:22:54 So show me the expanse. number two oh nice that means i would have been number one doesn't give a lot of points but uh no it does not let you it does let you continue playing yeah keeps my lead here all right i'm going to go with hitchhiker's guide
Starting point is 00:23:10 oh that's such a good one that's got to be number one how did i miss that to my head i don't know if you're number one but it'll be there's number 42 is what it is no show me the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy series yeah numero one Yeah, makes sense. Well-deserved placement on this list.
Starting point is 00:23:31 This might be, I'll save the Foundation series. Oh, also a good one. I don't know if the Tadpool was the into it. Asimov, right? It's a big complicated mess, those books, but, you know, people like, I mean, they love Dune. It's complicated also, so why not? Sure, sure. And I don't know where everybody landed on the series.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Series was great for about six episodes and then it lost steam and I think it's because they were filming in the middle of and the pandemic started and you could really feel it. Sure, makes sense. All right. They may come back ground on that. Show me foundation.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Six. That's a lot of points right there. 19 to 7 is the score. Yeah. Like this. I'm going to pull back out of that. Crike. You got, you know, basically you get 7 and 5,
Starting point is 00:24:21 8 and 5, 9 and 5, 7 and 5. I mean, basically, if you get any two, if Scott drops the ball and you get any two, then you're back in. Yeah. Well, I know I like them. I like things like the Horace Heresy and some of that, but I don't know if anyone else in the Tadpole would, but let's ask if the 40K universe is in there. So Warhammer 4,000. Yeah, show me some of that Warhammer love. Boo!
Starting point is 00:24:49 Oh, boo. Horace Heresy and Assorted Warhammer 40K books number 11 on the list. Just outside the rain. Just edged out, yeah. Poop. Okay. All right. I'm thinking I have one in my head.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Do you have one? No, everything I'm thinking of is fantasy, really. Right. I know a couple of fantasies, I think maybe on the right on the edge of it. I'm going to go with the Will of Time. Oh, Wheel of Time, sure. Yeah. Also, just a recent film or TV adaptation over there on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. Show me the wheel of time. In the wheel of time. Number eight. I have a question for the tab pool. Why is that very high fantasy novel series on a thing of science fiction? What are you guys doing? Because it doesn't really exist.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Because it deals with space. And when we think of sci-fi, we always think of space, right? Yeah, that's weird. I don't know if I buy that one. That's okay, because a couple of the ones I'm thinking of that are kind of, between the area of fantasy and science fiction. Now, there's a series that I love, and if you don't have another one, I may go with this.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And the reason why it's in my mind is because I recently decided to go back and start reading the books again. Do you have any more guests? Oh, interesting. No, I can't really think of anything. It's all fantasy-related. I love the Jurassic Park series of books. And we recently, since World Three,
Starting point is 00:26:21 coming out next month i believe we watched one and two and i was like man i really kind of enjoyed the books i'm gonna go back and read jpb one and two yeah did uh so you went back and watched Jurassic Park one and two or Jurassic World one and two to get ready for three world one is fun world two is bad three looks like it might be okay just like park park one good park two yeah park three was okay it was all right yeah a lot of people Jurassic Parks and Recreation was a really good follow-up. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one with Chris Pratt.
Starting point is 00:26:56 He just carried right over. Look at that. No kidding. There's the connection. There you go. Jurassic Parks and Recreation. Nice. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Nicely done. Show me Jurassic Park. Creepy. Oh, such a long wait. Number 29 on the list. Oh, wow. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Ender's game. Oh, that's a good one. Ender's game. There's a whole series. Folly and Enders cheese sandwich. I know everyone's mad at the Utah-based author now because he says stupid shit, but his books are, they were well regarded. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:33 We'll see how this goes. I know. Authors should really just shut up and just type is what they should do. Especially you, George R. Martin. Come on. Yeah, start typing. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Show me Enders game. Oh, that's probably like that. I think number five, and I think that might be the final. No, no. Actually, no. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Nine and seven would win nine ties, so we'll see. People who don't like the way this is scored, I would point to this as an example of this works, because if I blow this, I could lose. Like, it's not like I run away with it for having these low ones. Nope. All right. That person has probably stopped listening to the show. That's probably true. Long, Tammy.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I can't take this every week. I can't remember if. Oh, jeez, I can't remember if those books Oh, uh, uh, uh, old, uh, oh, the spousy books. Uh, uh, O, uh, O E, uh, O E, uh, uh, uh, did we sufficiently derail your thought? No, old man's, old man's war, uh, the old man war series. That was, I love that whole series. It was fantastic. I don't remember the other two books, but it's probably got a different series name old man hand me that machine gun so i can shoot the enemy is that that's the no it's nothing directly from the buck nothing like that unfortunately
Starting point is 00:28:59 no you you die your old body dies and they transfer your your soul and your body your mind into a new fresh 25 year old hot body and you go fight a war oh cool all right yeah show me a book based on that whole mess that oh yeah number seven old oh man popular I thought I was screwed. I know. I tried to make you think you were screwed. Sadly, that means Brian and Nick are screwed. Yeah, you guys are a little bit screwed here.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's okay. What answer left? See if you guys can clear this thing out. Still three strikes left between the two of you. Oh, I'm thinking here. Tell you what, if either of you gets number nine, I will give Nick the prizes anyway. because you'll have cleared the board
Starting point is 00:29:48 and I really like seeing a clear board. I have shocked we cleared this. When we started out, I'm like, I only have like one or two in my head. Yeah. Well, we got to clear one more. I can't remember if the I-Robot stuff is separate from foundation or not. It's Asimov, but I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'm just going to say it. Let's say I-Robot. Show me the robot series. Damn it. It is. separate and it is uh it was number 18 on the list okay oh shoot I swear that was part of the same smear first book I robot second book you robot third book we all robot we robot we robot we robot together all right so you guys you guys try again since uh we're gonna do this with a clear
Starting point is 00:30:36 board possible mm yep what about war of the world that's a good old book yeah yeah yeah people like we could do that we could do that or yeah yeah is it a series though because that's the key here that's what i'm thinking of i'm trying to think oh true yeah because i can think of lots of stand-alones that people would probably put on here but then again the tadpole may have skirted that i don't know i don't know right and then i'm also kind of thinking uh i don't know i don't know what do you think there's something obvious here we're just missing like the martian series that wasn't there more than one is there a series he did like a he'd like a follow-up book well he's done really he's done three books but i don't think any of them are connected they weren't
Starting point is 00:31:14 all in the same yeah I think they're all sci-fi they were just the same universe right or Tom Watley or whatever isn't to Watson I can never keep it straight which one was the dentist on Seinfeld and which one was the Martian well Watley is
Starting point is 00:31:26 definitely the Seinfeld guy so that guy is uh he just I don't know if anyone knew this he was the lead programmer on Warcraft 3 uh the author of the Martian and then really wanted to write so he left video game started writing and then freaking killed it right
Starting point is 00:31:42 yeah it's awesome and then I was also thinking about, because you said series, I think there's only two books, and then I had this one by my done in my bed, Ready Player 1 and Ready Player 2 but is that, you know what, I'm going to go with that.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I'm going to go over the Ready Player 1 or Ready Player Series. The Ready Player Series, yeah. Scott Klein, is that right? Ernie Klein. Ernie Klein. Is there a second book? I didn't know that. Yeah, Radio Player 2. I didn't know there was one out. And guess what? There's a lot
Starting point is 00:32:12 of video game and pop culture references sprinkled throughout. No. No. You don't say. You don't say. Wow. I enjoyed that first book, but I think I had my fill. I think I'm good. Because it was a little too much of that. It was like... Yeah, I like, reason why it's next to my
Starting point is 00:32:27 reason why it's next to my bed is because I've tried to read it like 20 times. I've like, I can't get all the way through it. Sure. All right. All right. It's just a bit much. Show me the ready player. A few people did say that one.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It made it up to number 16. Yeah, I also thought about the Hunger Games, too, because it's kind of sci-fi. It kind of is just topian mostly, but it does have some science in it. Scott has one guest left. Maybe he'll say that. I'm going to say Star Trek novels.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Oh, that's a good. There's a ton of those. You don't want to say the one that Brian just mentioned. No, I want to do mine. All right, okay. I win either way if I get this. No, no, you win, but your, your, our listener doesn't. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I know, but so, you know, we're just, we got to, we got to have some rules around here. So, all right. So, yeah, I'm saying Star Trek novels. Show me Star Trek. I wonder if my whistling comes through because I think, uh, it walks that out. I could totally hear it. You were good. Okay. The hungry games, even though I've got three strikes.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, there it is. That is. Number nine was the hunger games. Oh, what? I tried to help you clear the board so that Nick could get the prizes. Wow, that sucks. That's not a, that isn't a science fiction thing. Oh, sure. Oh, it's definitely not fantasy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's, there's no, it's just, it's, what's the, apocalyptic fiction. It's not, it's like, oh, here's a new society because the world kind of ended in the way we think of it. And so now everyone fights to the death. There's no, like, science fiction in there. The technology is advanced. So, is it? Yeah. Even though it's regressed because of.
Starting point is 00:34:13 of economy, the technology has advanced. It's a central point. Is it the way it is... Boo. It's descriptive. Young adult dystopian science fiction drama. There you go. That's a weird sci-fi angle.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I don't know. That would be like saying, I don't know, Mad Max is not. Those are a good read. I had no total reading through those. Oh, those are fine books. Yeah, they're good. They're a good time.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Definitely not science fiction, though. All right. So that's a bummer. uh here's what we'll do instead can can the winner of the contest uh concede and send things to people anyway of course you can all right uh let's pretend that i would be winning those codes but instead i'm going to send those to nick uh because i think he would really like him so we're doing that so i can't bequeath them i can i can't try and guide you to saying the right answer to
Starting point is 00:35:08 give them to that's an interesting that's an interesting take oh oh he should allow the winner to decide whether they give the prize or not. Here's the problem. We have an inconsistent record of this because there are times where Brian will say, be sure you want to say that, but it will be right. Do you know what I mean? I have done that too. Yeah, you're an unreliable narrator, so I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I thought you were leading me a different direction. You're not wrong. I've absolutely done that in the past, and I will continue to do it in the future. Yes. Congratulations, Nick, you're getting a copy of This War of Mine and The Ball from one of us. Might be Scott. Might be from me. but I'll be the one sending you the email.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Sending an email to covervillagel.gmail.com and I will get you the prizes. And thanks for being a new voice in our call-ins. Oh, yeah, that's great. Not the same 10 people, maybe same two people if you ever call again. Anyway, congratulations. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. You got to get that code by sending Brian an email, as he mentioned,
Starting point is 00:36:04 covervill at gmail.com. And when you play that game, let us know if you enjoyed your ball. Okay? Will you let us know? Because we don't know. just successfully handled the ball. Yeah, if you handle that ball well, then props to you.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Thanks for playing. That's going to do it for that. But we got to tell people, Brian Donneway, that you and I made a rad episode of, and I use the word rad on purpose. Radical deed. I played a whole bunch of TMNT, Turtles in Time as well, which was the follow-up.
Starting point is 00:36:35 We also played a bunch of X-Men, which gave us amazing lines such as, uh, whoops, such as this. X chicken. X chicken. Uh, which is my favorite thing in the world. I'm going to play it forever.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's right. Nightcrawler tastes like X chicken. Yep. Yep. I'd really hope that the game would have had voices for all the characters, but they don't. They just have death sounds like, oh, that kind of stuff. Do all the villains, though, get them, right?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, doesn't, uh, most of the villain. Most of the villains. Yeah. Lots of non-playables as well. Professor X has a bunch of really stupid lines. Um, he has, for example, here, listen to this go after the giant
Starting point is 00:37:11 sentinel that's that's x oh the big one don't mind a little tiny sentinel no those are inconsequential yeah here's this famous one destroy it yeah just destroy it anyway uh brian that was a lot of fun people just check it out play retro dot com or sorry play retro at g what am i saying play retro on wherever you get your podcast
Starting point is 00:37:32 all right frogpants.com slash play retro and a quick note about programming uh we had been moved to tuesdays for a while But it turns out we have enough of a time window. We're moving back to Mondays, which gives us enough padding between it and other stuff I do for A&TP. So we're fine. We're back to Mondays. So next Monday will be our next episode where we're doing, I don't even remember what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:37:53 We're doing console mascots. It's a transition to the 64 era. In other words, Super Mario 64 Crash Bandicoot, not technically the mascot of Sony, but we know. The unofficial, yeah. That's kind of how we felt about it. And then, of course, Sonic, as he progresses into the 64-bit era as well. And the Sonic-canceled game that never happened that was supposed to be the first 3-D game. It was an awkward transition for a lot of these mainstay things.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I told Brian on the show, it reminds me of silent movies moving to talkies and sound. There was kind of an awkward moment there where you could either make it a break. I played Super Mario 64 this morning for just a minute or two, and I was amazed at how much they forced the camera stuff down your throat. Like, well, we've got to use this, you know, camera stuff because now it's 3D. And I'm like, okay, back off. Yeah, but they didn't know. They didn't know any better.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They didn't know any better. It was a stepping stone in the right direction, but they, you know, they didn't know. Nobody knew. This was all new territory back then. So we're going to talk about it and tear it apart and have a great time. So check that out. That show is available wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Brian Dunaway, suck a duck.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And we'll see you. Bye now. Wow. Ducks suck. Wow. He likes to suck ducks. Wow. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I know. He'll admit it one day. He sucks ducks. Yeah, well, you know. What are you going to do? Hey, we got some quick news here. Oh, look at this. Some very fast news this morning.
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Starting point is 00:39:57 Patreon.com slash top podcaster or America's nextoppodcaster.com. Nice. All right. Check this story out. It's a Cheetos story. Okay. The snack, the cheese covered stick snack things, whatever they're supposed to be. Yeah, they're puffy, weird, like deformed tree shapes is what they are.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah. And we're happy to have them. We're happy with them. We're happy with the orange dust they leave on our fingers. Exactly. Except one time when I was a kid, I ate too many and I barfed. But other than that, they're fine. Anyway, Cheetos are banned in Germany.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I don't know if you knew that. but it's i did not know that yeah the germans they're not into it they don't like the really is that like is there is it a word uh like similar to you know oh the word cheetos in german means uh grandma feed or something like that well i wish it was that cool but it's not quite uh says that's the conundrum in germany where due to some savvy trademarking by the companies or excuse me country's largest snack food corporation cheetos have been illegal since 1980 so it's been a bit Illegal. Yeah, literally illegal.
Starting point is 00:41:04 This person in this article says they first became aware of the situation while browsing the aisles of a Berlin ethnic grocery store that will remain nameless in the section of North American goods. They had expanded this recently and was excited to see everything from tajun to tackies in stock. And the tachies, you know, they're like competition for the... They're little tiny dense Cheetos is what they are. Yeah, they're nightmare sticks.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Nightmare sticks. They're bad. They're nightmare sticks, yeah. Nothing good about those things. I'll eat them, but I know what I'm doing when I do it. Anyway, these bright orange packets there's no
Starting point is 00:41:38 there's no cheetah, but they have a red sticker covering up the brand. Also, they do have Cheetos, but they have a sticker covering up the brand on the top. They were misprinted bags where Chester was saying the F word or something. No. No way. Really? The internet informed this dude. The censorship
Starting point is 00:41:55 stickers were actually a loophole for over four decades. The Dusseldorf based conglomerate intersnack. I love that. That sounds tasty. That's a big cyberpunk corpo I would join. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Oh, yeah, okay. That's weird. Because in the next line, they spell it inster snack. Oh, did they screw that up? A second S. I think it's inter snack.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I don't think it's instersnack. It's got to be inner snack, right? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Like international and snack. Yeah, as opposed to instant snack. I'm going to have a snack instantly. I had an instant reaction. to these potato chips.
Starting point is 00:42:33 It is InterSnack, yes. It says whose chips, pretzels and cornpuffs dominate German markets and have been suing anyone who dare sell Cheetos in Germany on the grounds that the name Cheetos is too similar to one of the Intersnack's own products. Cheetos, C-H-I-T-O-S, which is a competing thing. Oh, interesting. They've also got a Cheos. I'm on the InterSnack Group.com website.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I'm looking at all of their brands. It is mostly stuff I've never ever heard of. Butterkist. Butterkist. Leva stain, thins. Pop chips I've heard of. Pop chips, yeah. V-I-C-O.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Never heard of that. Nutline, which is what I try to avoid when I wear tight pants. Terelles. Hand-cooked English crisps. Chio, C-H-I-O, Estrella, Mitsuba, or Gryphins. I'm excited to see Mitsuba when we're in Vegas. always like seeing Mitsuba. I like seeing Mitsuba too. Oh, Tato, which I had in Ireland, T-A-Y-T-O. Taito. Taito.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Taito. A nice bag of Tato. Okay. I should have French fried taters. But look, a lot of these funny fresh. I don't even know what that is. Ain't got no gas in it. All right. Well, look, the deal is they're very litigious. So don't be hope, don't go over there with anything resembling a Cheeto or Chitto or Chahito or any of that because they will sue you for thousands of euros. based on their trademark, okay? So be careful, Brian. I know you were about to launch a new brand of cheese sticks. I was.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I totally was, yeah. Yeah, don't do that. No, butter kissed popcorn is not, as far as I know, not here in the U.S. I've never heard of it. Butter kissed. I'd try it, though. I would, too. We have any German listeners?
Starting point is 00:44:19 You guys want to send us some German snacks and let us go to town on that? Just kissed by butter. Oh, yeah. We haven't done any German snacks, right? We've done Japanese snacks. We've done Chinese snacks, Australian, UK. I think we need some German snacks. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'd say Irish, but after your trip to Ireland, it felt like everything they had were just stuff from here and other places. So it didn't feel like they had a unique snack listing. No, it was a lot of crisps. The food, you know, box-de, which we're going to make, not this week, but next week, we're going to make our own home box-dey, which is mashed potatoes and shredded potatoes held together with flour formed into pancakes and fry. and then you yeah Brian I'm not sure what we're going to eat with that I think we're going to throw some like fried eggs on top or something for dinner sounds fantastic oh my gosh that sounds good it really sounds good I want that now so much starch like oh my god starch but uh and then of course
Starting point is 00:45:22 what was that bumper fry and uh I mean no you guys had some you guys did have some unique foods just not unique snacks is what we're saying claire like you still had chips you still had you know you had different variations of oreos potato chips and uh vanilla wafers and stuff like yeah we're looking for some renowned thing that no one else has you know something that makes your snacks unique is what we're looking for here right we had angry angry pig hot pig uh shavings from japan yeah bag of those oh by the way do you still have any kit cats left or those gone I don't want to say no because I'm not sure but I don't see the box which makes me wonder if Kim snuck them and gave them to one of the kids but I'll check
Starting point is 00:46:10 I think I may still have that okay because if so I'm going to do the same thing offer them up to the kids and the rest of mine yeah it's an offering it's like an offering to it's an offering it's like a tithe you're giving kit cats to the kids 10% of my chocolate and cookie crunch what are you doing oh do you know where that box of kit cats went we still have those how did you hear me talking about you oh do you know do you know where that is i think nick may have gotten him we'll find out anyway okay sorry kim heard her name and came in here so so quick too like instantly yeah that was fast you must be downstairs with the boy or something is he here oh i can't wait to see him all right oh yeah the boy yeah the boy it's uh we're going
Starting point is 00:46:53 babysitting the boy today for i don't know how long um all right that's uh it for news we're going to break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will be here with some tech times, some recommendals with Randy who's back in town and more. So stick around. Need a song though, Brian. You got one. Do it. I've got one. I've got just one. Only one song. And that song is coming up and it's performed by the email. There it is right there. Okay. All right. This is, hey, we're going back to Melbourne because we love music from Melbourne. Melbourne is the new hotbed for indie music out of Australia, I figured out. How about an electronic rock band?
Starting point is 00:47:32 Kind of like the Aussie deft punk. This is a band called Black Cab. They have a brand new single, and they just announced their long-awaited sixth album, which is called Rotsler's Rule, which is going to be released May 13th on digital and limited edition vinyl with launch shows in both Melbourne and Sydney.
Starting point is 00:47:51 To lead off this album, this brand new album, here is the new single, Superheroes. Here's Black Cab. You know, The I'm going to be able to use. I'm going to use. Must be able to use
Starting point is 00:49:01 For all the time I'm going to know Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be able to us. I'm sorry to be able to be able to us. I'm going to go. I'm supposed to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:50:35 My superheas. I'm We're going to be able to be able to be. I'm sorry to be. I'm sorry to be. I'm always ready to know. We're going to be able to be able to be. You're a similar to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I'm sorry. I'm going to be able to be. I'm always trying to go. Turned me out of you. Turn me out of you. We have to see the world. We have to be able to be. I'm going to see the other.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I am I'm not going to be able to I am 41 years old. I have not had a sick day in 23 years. I do not call in sick day. I don't call in gay. I do not call in sick. I don't call in gay. I don't call it in gender confused. I don't call... When my dad died of Lou Gehrig's disease, I had some barbecue and went back to work. His things go better with Coke after Coke after Coke, just a slogan.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Wolfman's got cards. This is the morning stream. All right, we're back, everybody. Hey, Brian, what's that song again? Yeah, that song is the band Black Cab out of Melbourne, Australia. The brand new song, Superheroes. Nice. We like superheroes.
Starting point is 00:53:29 We're fans. Yeah. Yeah. Flying around, you know, shooting stuff out of their hands. Making, getting work done. Flying capes and tights and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we love them.
Starting point is 00:53:42 They're great. Boot cuffs. Don't care. DC, Marvel, whoever, you know? It's fine. Get it going. All right. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:53:51 we got a thing to play with the computer as with any tool the concept and direction must come from the man that man is tom merritt he joins us now live from his studios in los angeles california tom merrill welcome to the show how are you i'm glad to be here scott and brian uh thank you for that great description of my wardrobe uh well you know it's for the uh for the audio listeners it paints a mental picture yeah it's like when you turn on the descriptive narrative uh in the assistive settings. I like that. Yeah, you're like a pop-up video, but for a guy.
Starting point is 00:54:26 That's what that's what's going on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're an equivalent of pop-up video. I used to love that show. Well, Tom, it's always a pleasure to have you on on Wednesdays, talking tech, that sort of stuff, digging up stories for Daily Tech News Show today. And, well, there's probably a few out there. What's going on on this Wednesday? Yeah, later today, when you join us on Daily Tech News show, I'm sure we'll be talking about Meta's announcement of having some glasses, some VR
Starting point is 00:54:51 AR glasses are ready for 2024. Yesterday on the show, we mentioned that Meta says they're going to allow creators to sell items in Horizon VR. What we didn't notice at the time that has gotten a lot of headlines since, is that meta will be taking a 47.5% cut on each transaction. So 30% cut goes to Meta for the Oculus platform, and then 25% goes to the meta app store. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:25 So they're getting paid twice. They're taking a cut twice, basically. They're double dipping. So the 30-70s common, and we hear about it all the time. People want Apple to change theirs. Steam does it. Both consoles have the same deal for their stores.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Everyone's got the 70-30. It's kind of standard and common. I would have expected that here, and it sounds like they're kind of faking that. But I don't like that. that's no good for creators. Why would I want to go over there into this new platform
Starting point is 00:55:54 and invest what it takes to learn all that stuff and make those assets and then only get that tiny cut? That's bad. Well, and Facebook has historically been one of the companies complaining the most
Starting point is 00:56:05 about the 30% cut in the Apple App Store. So apparently the Horizon World's platform getting 30% that's fine. If you're sitting there going, wait, you said 47.5, but 30 plus 25 is 55. It's 30% goes to meta.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And then of the remaining amount of the remaining 70%, then 25% goes to the meta app store. So that's how, once you do the math, that ends up with a total of 47.5%. Yeah. If I always try, I'm the only one who does this, but I always try to figure out like, okay, but if I'm meta, how do I think this makes sense to me? You know, and I know everybody else is like, greed, that's how it makes sense. But usually, we've all been in workplace situations.
Starting point is 00:56:50 usually the thing that everyone else outside of your company thinks is dumb, you're like, well, yeah, but I know why they're doing it. It may be dumb, but this is why. My only guess here is that meta is going to make room for other app stores on the Oculus platform. And so they're saying, look, if you're on Horizon Worlds, 30% goes to Horizon Worlds. And if you're in the App Store, there's a different cut for the App Store. but that's because other app stores might be on the platform someday. It's not a great argument, and it's not the argument meta is making,
Starting point is 00:57:25 but that's the only way I could make it make any kind of internal logic sense to myself. Yeah, I would say that's the only way I could too, because I'm thinking here like, okay, let's say that they do that. Let's say they have their built-in app store, but then they'll let you, in a way, side load from other app stores or other locations. is there a limit to that? Because once you open that gate, you're saying everybody from dude in his house to established app store somewhere
Starting point is 00:57:54 now has access to this thing. Maybe they do. And maybe that's okay in the long run, but I'm not so sure they're planning any of that. This just feels like some weird corporate hypocrisy to me. And I don't really know how to feel about it, to be honest, except, you know, here's an equivalent. OpenC is, you know, one of the big wide open market.
Starting point is 00:58:14 for NFTs. It takes a 2.5% cut of each transaction by comparison quite a bit lower. I don't know if you noticed than 30%. Percentage wise, that seems lower. Then a creator can take between 2.5 and 7.5% in addition. Right. So you can you can then like take a cut because of the way NFTs work, you can take a cut of future sales and stuff like that. So it may be that that meta is looking at it that way, although 30 and 25. Wow. Those are, those are, those are two digit numbers. Yeah, that's a lot. Without decimals. Yeah, that's a lot. If I'm, if I'm a company, or if I'm a creator and I'm starting to see these things come around, maybe meta will be first to the idea of, you know, Horizon Worlds is the place to go make stuff. But this is coming from all over the place. Like there were other opportunities. I as a creator would not be eyeing meta as a place to set up shop. I would be like, yeah, I think I'm not doing. that. I'm going to wait and see what Apple does later this year. I'm going to wait and see what Valve has up their sleeve. I would be in that mood if I was a creator after seeing this
Starting point is 00:59:23 number. It's just ridiculous. You know, you don't want to be an early adopter of that as a creator. That would be, you know, 50% of your freaking revenue. Yeah. In fact, there's a quote on this CET article that Meta's 47.5% fee is the best thing that ever happened to sandbox and decentral land because everyone will be like well guess i'm going over there yeah good point um well all right stuff is subject to change of course who knows what they'll end up doing seems a little short-sighted to me but um but hey doesn't it doesn't it there's something that rhymes in my head with you know ibn getting into the internet or Microsoft creating a browser in the early days uh you know at the very beginning right where they like, they said, well, OS2 warp with the internet on ramp will be the way everyone
Starting point is 01:00:14 will access the internet. Turned out, that wasn't the case. Microsoft I.E., people forget when it first launched was a failure. Everybody's like, why would I use that instead of Netscape? It's so poorly functional. And, of course, Microsoft changed. So, yeah, it's too early to say whether meta is OS2 warp or Internet Explorer. Yeah, or I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 01:00:36 an example of something that petered out real hard and then everyone else took over for it. Let's call it, you know, like pre-I-Pod. Napster. Oh, yeah, Napster is a good one. Yeah. That's a great one. And Napster, you know, while still exists, nobody cares. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Nobody cares about that. True. Yeah, it's still out there. Yeah. It was a missed opportunity. Anyway, this will be a good story. We'll talk about this and, of course, other stuff today. Tom, anything else going on?
Starting point is 01:01:00 You want to mention? I am always available on free tomnewsletter.com. It has become a place where I just kind of let folks know what's going on in a little open letter, just like an email to you, and then links to all my shows. If you're interested in like, oh, we're on the shows this week. There'll be nice media-rich links to all of that in there as well. So you want to be part of that conversation, freetomnewletter.com. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I think I will. I already am. So there's no need for me to go over there. Tom Merritt, today, 2.30 Mountain. No, 2 o'clock Mountain Time. Sorry, everybody. we got the new time. That's right. Yeah, yeah, the new straight up top of the hour time. Yeah, we hit
Starting point is 01:01:38 we hit the road running and I'm excited to be there as usual. Tom Merritt, everybody Ace on Twitter. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. This camera is a mix of chop and knot. Right, yeah, it was getting a little chunky. Yeah. But then smooth. Then smooth. Like, could not decide
Starting point is 01:01:55 which kind of Peter Pan peanut butter it was going to be. Oh, that reminds me. I never told you about this place. I meant to do this. There's a place You found a new peanut butter restaurant in Salt Lake City. No, no, no. No, there's an ice cream place near here called Brookers. I don't know if this is a chain. I can't tell.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I think it's just here. I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah. But they make their own ice cream. It's all very good. But they make their employees dress like founding fathers era clothes. Really? Okay, that's great.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah, so all these teenagers, they're forced to look like, you know, who's the Paul Revere, those kind of, that type of thing. Yeah, all that stuff. to dress like that. I'm not gonna miss my scoop. Not gonna miss my scoop. And every one of their flavors is named after a founding, either a founding father or, you know, early governing people when the United States was, they basically, they're just like a giant declaration of independence cosplay, this whole thing. Of course, yes. Would you like a, would you like a scoop of coffee bean Franklin? It's like that, yeah. It is like that. Or there's one that's like,
Starting point is 01:02:57 my favorite is the peanut butter chocolate something with George Washington, but they got all this. He wouldn't, you know, we can't tell a lie. It's the best. No cherries in the George Washington. Interesting. Yeah. Oh yeah, that one's got definitely got a cherry tree or something like that.
Starting point is 01:03:13 That one's very good. They have all kinds of good stuff. But anyway, I just felt bad for these kids because I walk in there. I'm like, no teenager wants to dress like this. No, no. The only thing that sounds worse would be the hot dog on a stick. Outfits. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yep. Those were bad. Shorty shorts and making that lemonade. Yeah. Oh, that lemonade's the best, though. It is a good lemonade. Yeah. Hand-a-mushed or whatever they were doing there, dancing.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Right. All right. For Randy is coming into the show right now. All right. Okay. I'll believe it when I see it, Scott. Soaking in the Hawaiian sun for far too long. Yeah, he's perfectly pickled.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Perfectly pickled is what he is. Marinated in beach spices. That's right. Beach Spice. I don't like sand, he said. Join us now in welcoming Randy Jordan back to the show, Randy Deluxe. How's it going? Are you back to your normal time zones?
Starting point is 01:04:08 How are you feeling there, dude? Good morning, morning extreme. I'm feeling just fine. Oh, that's good. Got a fantastic time in Kauai. The Garden Isle was very, very good to me. Nice. And mine.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah. Did you once again be like, oh, we should move here. We should move. You want to move? No? You don't want to move. She did not want to move there? I mean, you used to live there, so you know what it's like living.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Yeah. I don't know. Rather visit. What would be ideal would be to be able to visit there anytime I want? That would be ideal. I mean, you can, though, can't you? I mean, yes and no, right? Financially, you can't visit every time you want.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Right. So, like, how do you pull off for times a year, like what I just did? Sure, sure. You need your own plane. You need your own little beach house. You're set. You're all good. I've actually already been planning my next trip out there.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I've got a pretty good idea here. And you know what? Yeah, like if people who live in Hawaii, there's all kinds of people who live in Hawaii who don't want tourists, they want fewer tourists. And you know what? Their biggest enemy is Hawaiian Airlines because, man, I get those emails every day from Hawaiian Airlines.
Starting point is 01:05:17 They're like, hey, we'll fly you round trip for like 300 bucks. I'm like, okay. Let's make more tourists. Do you have any spam while you were there? any kind of spam musubi it is way more prevalent when you're in the grocery store like the spam area you know is like huge yeah but i just i don't know it's not it's not necessary like i was i was there to eat fish and and and and rice and yeah not not not not world war two introduced canned food to help get through the pacific i got to i got to tell you my my brain is a little fried from it
Starting point is 01:05:54 But, like, you just got me thinking about the phrase founding fathers. What a, what an interesting phrase, founding fathers. Like, imagine, like, because, like, well, one, when you talk about that phrase, one of them is Benjamin Franklin, right? He lived to be 84 years old, died in 1790. Yeah. He died, he died 19 or 20 years before Abraham Lincoln was even born. Yeah. And we also think of Abraham Lincoln as a founding father.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I mean, it's not really, right? Like, he's not at all. No, I mean, yeah. But, anyway, like, Abraham Lincoln was a baby two decades after Benjamin Franklin died at 84. You know what I'm saying? We always visualize all these guys hanging out in a room. Yeah. And, no, a lot of them missed each other by decades, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Right, yeah. Imagine if you were, like, roped into the same historical documents as someone, you know, who was 100 years older than you and done it two decades before. I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy. I did get, so speaking of this ice cream place, I embarrassed my kids a little bit. I'll tell you this story real fast. Did you talk about cow lube or something like that? No, none of that, no lube.
Starting point is 01:07:03 But we walked in and it was Dylan's first time. He hadn't been there before. And he goes, oh, man, I don't know which one to do. Which one of these is good? And I go, I said a little too loud. I said, well, which one had the most slaves? And everybody in there was like, dad, he can't talk. I'm like, well, they had them.
Starting point is 01:07:19 They all had them. They had slaves. That was the thing with these guys. And then he ended up getting the... God, what's going to be like when you're older and you don't have a filter? I don't have one now. I thought it was pretty funny. But what's great is the people working there, obviously, have this entire store dedicated to all these founding fathers.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And I don't think any of them want me in there going. How many slaves does this one have here? No. I'm going to have that go for them. All right. Anyway, let's emancipate ourselves and dive into it. our films that we're recommending this week. Sure.
Starting point is 01:07:53 We have a number of them. And we're going to start with Brian. We always do. He's got some clips here. Brian, what's the setup? Yeah, set up. This first one is a movie and a very sweet movie. Oh, well, all right.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Here's a lot of play there. Okay, two rules. I'm never going to let you win. Ever and you beat me. You know you beat me. Bear and square, but I never let you win. And I'm going to always tell you the truth. I saw you in the yard playing sports.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You're not very. very good and probably not going to get a whole lot better so it might be wise for you in order to avoid tears and disappointment and above all delusion and find some other activities that you like you know what do you like to do the most i like to read i also like to read i'm good sports too okay it's a short clip but it sounds like what's his name uh wild things guy? Not him. Wild things.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Nicholas Cage? No, no, no. Wild Things, Kevin or Matt Dylan. Matt Dylan. Yeah. It feels like one of these Stephen King or Steven Spielberg movies, like where a, where I, like, a kid, you know, has, you know, Anthony Hopkins move in upstairs and they're like meeting each other and talking for the first time. You know what I mean? Very, very, yeah, I could see how you hear that.
Starting point is 01:09:17 This is, uh, um, that was. Ben Affleck, by the way, that you were hearing, telling J.R. McGuire the rules. Tai Sheridan, well, not Ty Sheridan in that scene, but Ty Sheridan becomes the older version of that kid. That is a movie called The Tender Bar. And this is, was a recommendation to me from Jenny Josephson, who saw it and said, oh, there's this sweet movie on Amazon Prime. You got to check it out. And she's absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:09:48 This is really, really good. It is a very sweet coming-of-age film, very, I mean, boyhood a little bit. I'm trying to think of a really good comparison. Biloxi blues probably a better one, where you kind of, you see, you know, this growth of this character over the years. It's directed by George Clooney, and it is adapted from, you know, the real-life memoir of J.D. Moringer, who was, the main character is kind of built after. In addition to Ben Affleck, who plays the owner of this bar that is kind of the focal point, the center piece of this film that this kid, you watch him kind of growing up around this.
Starting point is 01:10:34 You've also got Lily Rob, who you know from almost every season of American Horror Story, and a Christopher Lloyd that is, especially in one scene where all he does is fart in his his recliner is the best. Fantastic. Fantastic. I was hoping you would tell me something like that. He's grandpa. He is grandpa. He is this kid's grandfather. This kid's real dad is a dude named the voice who's a radio DJ who's largely been out of his life played by Max Martini. You know him from things like saving Private Ryan and 11. Oh, yeah. I know this dude. He usually has a huge beard, but he's got he does have a great voice pacific rim yeah he's i like that dude he is really good and then ron livingston is our narrator the older the future version of this kid um it's a really
Starting point is 01:11:29 really really good movie really sweet really uh um really well acted well a great story um well directed uh don't know why i think it won a sag award um or nominated for a sag award but nothing no mention at all during the Oscars, which really surprises me because this feels like it it maybe should have taken the place of don't look up among the nominees. No chance of winning, but... But we did have a SAG nomination for Affleck, right? Yeah, he was nominated for Golden Globan and Screen Actors Guild Awards, yes.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Was it weird going right from deep water to this? Was that kind of a shock? Shit to the system? Yeah, a little bit. Wait, wait, wait, deep water, deep water. You hated it, or you didn't hate it. You just said you wouldn't recommend anybody. The one with him and Armad de Armas or whatever her name is, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Oh, yeah, right. God, this movie made me forget that we watched that two weeks ago, that the most hateful couple you'll ever have a chance to be. That's good. I can't believe it. Yeah, totally, totally made me forget about deep water this film. So that's great. That's a really good.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Good. It's a deep water antigen. I like it. That's right. It's the antidote for deep water, yeah. Cool. Does this movie, like, hinge a lot on Ty Sheridan's ability to act and carry it? It does.
Starting point is 01:12:54 He's your main version of the main character. You do get, you know, a couple different versions in the narrator. But he's, you spend the most time with J.R. or junior as a teenager, college student, college graduate, and Ty Sheridan is your main, your main actor for that. I like that kid a lot. He was, the first time I ever saw him was in mud, and I thought he was amazing in that movie,
Starting point is 01:13:20 another coming of age kind of thing, set in the South. I love that movie. Speaking of Ready Player 1, I mean, he was. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Also, also speaking of X-Men. Yes, Cyclops. Yeah. Yes, the non-Marzden Cyclops. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 01:13:34 this is really good. It's on Amazon Prime. It's just a sweet, sweet film. The Tender Bar. It's right there in the name, Tender Bar. It's a tender bar.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I'd like to know what the bar. I don't know. I'll find out what the bar is. Well, it's the bar is the bar that Ben Affleck's character owns. How can it be tender? I don't get it. I'll find out. I'll find out.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah, you got to watch it, say. It's like instead of the bartender, it's the tender bar. Oh, geez, thank you for spelling that out slowly for me. I didn't get it. I seriously didn't get it. I can tell if you were being sarcastic there, yeah. Seriously, I didn't get it either until you just did that. Well, that's great.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I want to see it. I like George Clooney as a director is one of my favorite. He's made some great movies as a director, and I would like to see it. All right. Very cool. That's item number one. Item number two is a series. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Let's play this clip for the series. You guys, I have been reading up on this, and our students are going to get a huge boost from this software. I mean, our kids are going to be reading at the speed of light. Well, I, for one, prefer the tried and true. methods over whatever the latest do-hickie is. I mean, I have yet to see the program that can do what I do by, you know, what,
Starting point is 01:14:51 teaching. Well, old school teaching is great, but the latest do-hickie can be a helpful addition. Are subs going to have to do this? I thought I'd mainly be showing Pixar movies. You guys, all I'm saying is, we should keep an open mind. There was a great website
Starting point is 01:15:07 called A to Z-123 that told me how to read when I was a kid. My parents certainly weren't around to do it. I had to potty train myself. Overshare. Well, I do not need some young Zuckerberg. Zuckaberg. Pimple-faced kid, fresh from the smart bar.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Genius bar. Telling me how to teach. Good morning. You're the tech teacher? Sure am. Can't keep us old folks down, right? No idea. I like it, though.
Starting point is 01:15:34 This is a brand new series, brand new sitcom, a terrestrial, like a network sitcom that's really, really good, called Abbott Elementary. I'd heard a lot of good things about it, decided to start watching it. And this feels like the superstore office that we kind of need, you know, as a current network situation, sitcom. That was Cheryl Lee Ralph, you heard as one of the teachers.
Starting point is 01:16:04 She's kind of the more traditional tried-and-true teachers. But you've got Quinta Brunson is your kind of main character. She is your Jim Halpert or the new guy starting at Superstore, kind of the one you follow as like the main character. They do, you know, these shows do always seem to have like a couple of the same kind of characters, although there's not really like a Dwight or an Angela or, you know, one of those type of people in this.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Focus on an elementary school in Philadelphia, in the heart of Philadelphia. in the heart of Philadelphia for inner city kids and the budget problems that they have and how much these teachers have to kind of tow the line and help out with the things that the school board is supposed to provide for them. You do have, you do have your Michael Scott or your what's his face from Superstore, kind of inept leader, but you kind of have to have that in an office comedy like this. done as a mockumentary so more like the office where the regular shots are interstitched with direct interviews with the characters all right i kind of like that i don't know what my deal is
Starting point is 01:17:25 i kind of miss it because i feel like we haven't had it in a while right yeah not since like modern family or did they do they didn't do with life in pieces did they know that was just straight up No, Parks and Rec did, though. Yeah, that kind of thing is, I feel like was being done to death. And then I kind of got tired of it. And now I kind of miss it. So I think I'm in the mood for this. Mainly that, that's a great little motif that helps you escape from a laugh track, right?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Like, yeah, like I loved, I loved this other school sitcom that came out recently called Mystery Iglesias. It was like three years of Gabriel Iglesias as a mentor teacher. in a funny high school in Long Beach. And like the downside of it was the damned laugh track, you know? And it's like, well, how do you, you know, how do you get around that? Well, I mean, you just have silence for people to laugh in. But the interstitial interview thing is a really good way to tack a joke onto a joke, right? It is.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It's a weird thing to miss because I used to think it was overdone and now I kind of miss it. We have to check it out. This sounds great. Quinta Brunson, by the way, the main actress, and this is also the showrunner.
Starting point is 01:18:40 She created this thing. So it's kind of like directing herself. That's great. But I'm thinking of like in the office you had, you had, oh, my God, I'm blanking on their names. The two younger people were kind of creators of the American, or not creators, but headwriters for the American version of the office. And I can't remember their names. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Those guys all seem to be in these shows, or involved in these shows. That's always interesting. Kelly and Rand, thank you. BJ Novak and Mindy Colling, Kayling. Kayling, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's great. National Trudgeoning. Anyway, Abbott Elementary is on Hulu, the finale aired last night. So 13 episodes for this first season, so you can jump right in and watch all these all in a couple of sittings.
Starting point is 01:19:29 That sounds like something Kim and I want right this second. Yeah, it's good. It's really, really sweet. All right. Well, here... My recommendals are sweet today. Yeah, look at you. I'm glad, because I was actually thinking before we got on the horn today, I was thinking, man, we've put forth some hard stuff in the last few months.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Over the last few months. We've had a lot of recommendals where Scott is like, now, this is not for everybody. Exactly. Yeah, it's... I'm glad to see it, though. I always need this sort of thing. All right, well, let me bring it down a few notches, all right? Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:20:01 A documentary, and it's on Netflix, a two-parter, and here's the clip. Jimmy Savile just can't help attracting his own special kind of private pandemonium. Jimmy Salmon's public property. Our gym. I have never seen anyone do that much good. How on earth do you raise 10 million pounds in three years? All right. So that may sound like it's actually a glowing, a glowing review of this Jimmy Saville dude, who here in the States, we pretty much
Starting point is 01:20:39 never heard of the guy until recent years. In Europe and in the UK in particular, Jimmy Saville was like household name, a gigantic star. I'm trying to think what to compare him here too. He ran for 40-something years their top of the pops thing, which was our equivalent of American bandstand. Yeah, that kind of thing. So he's, I guess he's Casey Kasem for England. Kind of. He was a DJ to start with and then eventually became this TV personality that just hosted everything. He had a show called Jim Will Fix It, which was very popular, especially with kids.
Starting point is 01:21:13 It was like you would write in almost like the miracle charity or what is it called Child's Miracle Network, whatever it is. Anyway, they would ride in and say, well, I want to, you know, before I, or my duck can't fly. I have a duck and he's up here in Northern England. Antfly. So Jim will fix it. The show arranged to have a flight where this little kid and his duck could just be on this plane and the duck had window seats. It could look out the whole time and, you know, like silly, weird stuff like that. So he was he was like this beloved dude for a huge part of his career over there. Turns out the entire time, he's a predatory child molester bastard hole, like the worst. Oh, my God. The tadpool has just been like, oh, my God, major pedophile. Oh, he's horrible. Oh, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. They were, they were spoiling the story before I could get to it. Yeah. It's not a spoiler to say this about the show, by the way, because the whole point is to expose all of this. Sure, of course. And I'm glad that they did. He died not too many years ago, 2012 or 13 or something.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And it was right around the time that he died at age 84 that there was, there was a ramp up in potential prosecution. They were finally getting people coming forward. The police, the police who were kind of negligent at the time of these of these events were, you know, basically people. peeling back the onion and finding out what they did wrong. They're ready to sort of admit it all. And this has a ton of archival footage and a lot of interviews with him. And they spent a lot of time with people who were both victims of his, but also people who thought someone was fishy for years and years and years and worked tirelessly to try to expose it, were stopped at every turn because this guy was like he was knighted.
Starting point is 01:22:53 He hung out with Margaret Thatcher. And why this is interesting? because it isn't just a story of here's a guy who's a horrible pedophile that that's that is the story but that's not really the story the story was more about here is a guy who is a horrible pedophile but is getting away with it so brazenly that there's a lesson to be learned about that part of it the getting away with it part like they're they found scenes of him in in uh you know how um americans band stand it toward the end you might have dick clark sitting out in the audience a bunch of girls gathered around and he's saying all right so no next week we're going to see you next time or whatever and they're all kind of with him there and he's you know he's sitting with them he would do that sort of thing too and the archive footage of him like groping girls while they're sitting there nobody recognized it for what it was and you're doing it fully on camera just brazenly yeah it's the brazen part that that made this documentary interesting because i don't want to just hear about how horribly is that's not really i'm not
Starting point is 01:23:51 in it for that i was in it for like man can we never let anything this public happen again because the guy went you know he spent decades abusing people and almost in plain view like that's the level of celebrity the guy had it was almost just in plain view that this stuff was happening and nobody was helping these kids nobody was helping these poor girls like it was that part's awful there's some catharsis toward the end there's not justice because he died and never got prosecuted um but uh it's two parts so it's not you know you know you you're not stuck for six episodes or something. I recommend it if you are like me interested in why humans behave sometimes
Starting point is 01:24:36 the way that they do and see them as like maybe a learning opportunity for what we do with celebrities and maybe we ought to not do that so much because sometimes there's horrible monsters under all that. Anyway, the title of the thing is Jimmy Saville, a British horror story. And it's available on Netflix and two parts, relatively new. but it's well made it's it's very well made something you probably worth knowing like if you don't know you want to yes you want to learn this little bit of history yeah if you want to
Starting point is 01:25:06 I mean I went and deep dived on some Wikipedia stuff and it's all kind of out there now but this this doesn't in a very well made documentarian package they don't do fake reenactments they don't get too dramatic it's it's a lot of sort of here's what happened and how it happened and here's what we know now versus what we knew then and why this person was wrong and blah blah blah like it's it's very those are the kinds i like i don't like when they get too too dramatic um you're reminding me of uh what what's the there was a documentary take your hot dog out of the microwave randy there's documentary thing last year i did
Starting point is 01:25:41 not watch called something like the murderer next door or something like oh oh there's the shrink next door you're not talking about that one no that was a there was something everyone talked about that was like about some people who live next door to a terrible person and they were just like allowing that person into their lives and over having oversight of their kids and stuff i'm sorry i can't remember i can't remember it either but i know which when you're talking about it was 2021 right and i think called oh that's not it okay well i have all this here but anyway it's one of those it's good it's well made again it's you know warning it's it deals with a lot of those those horrible issues um and i nothing pisses me off more
Starting point is 01:26:25 more than kids being abused in any way. But there's something to learn here about the way we handle celebrity differently than we do regular people. And how that can lead to real heartache, like a national heartache, really, at that level. So anyway, we're checking out. I also finished that one I recommended last week. I was only two episodes in, but I finished the one about the vegan, bad vegan. Oh, yeah, right. Excellent, excellent documentary.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Oh, and all, you know, while we're doing that, I'll put a cap in severance. as fantastic. Watch the whole thing. Oh, right? You were only like three or four episodes in, right? Yeah, yeah. So good. Best thing in the year. So good. I love it. And you feel like it sticks the landing? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Because that's the thing that everyone starts asking after a couple of episodes. It stuck this landing, but it makes me want more landings and it's already been approved for two more landings. Yeah, I think they have a plan to go three seasons. Three seasons, yeah. Let's go back to that for a second. I just love Patricia Arquette so much And she's like understated in this show
Starting point is 01:27:31 Like you know what I mean? Like she plays Well, she plays on which she is initially. Yeah. She's understated then she's overstated then she's overstated. I actually really like it in the end. But at first she kind of drove me nuts, to be honest. But she grew on me over time.
Starting point is 01:27:44 I always like I also like how it feels like his office place initially is like every kind of caricature of the people that you've worked. with in an office. You know what I mean? Like, as soon as you start seeing and hearing John Tuturo, you're like, oh, I worked with that guy. Yeah. For me, it's Dylan.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I knew about 10 Dillans. Yes. And also, I have some serious physics questions about his nose and his glasses. God, how does his glasses stay on? I don't get it. It's got to be adhesive or something. I don't get it. There are times when it's actually, he should like half an inch out from his nose and
Starting point is 01:28:19 it's still staying in the same place. I know. I think we should rename Friday. flat face Friday and just every week we posted images of him okay his arc really got me everything in it it's an amazing show I'm glad you glad you've had as much fun as that I did all right let's move on to Randy's recommendation we got a clip here Randy any set up oh it's just a show I love so much I think it was brought up about a year ago uh by Nicole I think I'm not certain about that but man I love this show I picked the most random spot to pull
Starting point is 01:28:54 clip and you can just like the problem with the show is there's a lot of uh music in it so i didn't pick any music but man i'm telling you i went into the most random thing and anytime you do you're going to get gold comedy gold out of this show and by the way uh my spot features almost every uh actor that i pull so you're going to hear a lot of different voices very nice all right here it is let's play it cluny what are you up to eating a caccio a pepe freaking classy What that drip? Ah, making Lucy Lala! Ah! What's going on? Why are you naked? Why is there water?
Starting point is 01:29:30 Gotta grab my tools! Wolf, no! Let's call a plumber. The bobcats got this one under control. I'm trying bobcat out as that nickname. Is it too many animals? This seems like a situation for a real plumber with a regular name, like Champ. No. Gurb. Wait. Why can't I think of a regular name? Don't worry, babe. You don't need Gurb when you got the bee cat.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Oh, no! No! Toilin' juice! Thanks again for letting us crash in your room ham. Our toilet's being a real nasty freak. She really is. Well, we're all so excited for you and Honeybee to be sleeping over in the main house during Thanksgiving week. I'll be perfectly happy on Moon's Floor. Did somebody say Boys Night? I said it with a Z, so I think it's going to be pretty fun. Oh, ham, you've got a lot of books.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I can get some reading done. Chunky chili for the teenage souls, some Mary Higgins Clark. The hacking Halversons. Oh, yeah, we all read those. They're about this Viking family very violent, but also very close. And they love cutting the heads off of things. Like any head, they'll just cut it off. Even if they're busy, they don't mind.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Well, you guys picked a great time to destroy your toilet with the power of poop because I have a new shadow puppet I'm debuting after dinner. I have to dislocate my thumb to do it, but it's worth it. I like a shadow puppet. Sometimes a regular puppet is just too much. Well, the plumber's out of town for the Thanksgiving holiday, but it'll fix the toilet first thing Monday morning. In the meantime, having all you here under one roof will be fun,
Starting point is 01:30:45 like when you guys were little kids, except one of my sons is married. Moon is married? Oh, Wolf, right. Holy cow. All right. So it's that woman who is in Mythic Quest, who was one of the developers downstairs. It's not actually. You're close.
Starting point is 01:31:04 But that is not Ashley Birch. This is the other, so the Bob's Burger's team made this, right? Ashley Birch? This is the Bob's Burger's production team, the same couple of writers or something? Yeah, it's two writers from Bob's Burgers, later writers that came on to Bob's burgers after a couple of seasons. their sisters, I think, and they went off to make this show. Oh, no, I'm thinking of Aparma Nanchuria, the developer, not the tester. You did hear Aparna Nancherla.
Starting point is 01:31:34 She's got a very recognizable voice. The youngest of them, a very young boy named, like six or seven years old, named Aparna, it's named Moon. His name is Moon. You also just, man, you heard, like it starts with Will Forte. Yeah, Will Forte, I said in the chat room. His wife is Honeybee, played by Dulce Sloan. You heard Paul Rust, Jenny Slate. Jenny Slate is everywhere, right?
Starting point is 01:31:59 Yeah, Jenny Slate is everywhere. I didn't capture so many other voices that are just so great. This is the Great North, by the way. The Great North, those creators are the Molyneux sisters, Wendy and Lizzie Mollinew. And, man, Nick Offerman is a single dad. of a family who lives up near the Arctic Circle. And they are just hysterical. This is a show.
Starting point is 01:32:28 I'm just going to say this, and this might be a little controversial to you, especially Scott. But I think if this show had come out before Bob's Burgers, there are a lot of people out there who would have said, oh, Bob's Burgers is a lesser version. Because that's what they do with this.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I don't disagree with you, but the people see this and they see that Bob's Burger's style. because the animation style and art style is almost identical. Central Park also has some of those people working on stuff. They all look the same. But I think people discount this because it's not Bob's Burgers. And I think you're probably right. Whatever came first is going to get the laud.
Starting point is 01:33:05 And then you're going to have to follow it up with, you know, it's like Futurama, never got the same love the Simpsons did unless you were a true blue fan. But it's because you're like, oh, well, same style. This is like the Simpsons in space. And they just pass. But now, like you have a whole generation now who sees. like my, my, my, my, my kid's generation who sees, uh, Futurama as so superior. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:25 So good. Because he's, he's encountered them at all the same time. Yeah. Um, this, this show, Great North, um, it pulls from some other things. Like, Bob's Burgers has a, a very particular, uh, source, right? It comes from things like Seinfeld and, uh, you know, like 80s and 90s sitcoms for the most part. Sure. Uh, this, this has a lot more influence in things like, um,
Starting point is 01:33:49 Gravity Falls or Stephen Universe, it has some of those, like, it has a drive to, to be more about, like, moral issues and family stories than Bob's Burgers ever could. Like, Bob's Burgers is a lot more about really interesting characters. So I'm, I'm kind of, I guess I shouldn't have pulled a clip that was just a bunch of characters all making jokes. But it's just a, it's just a very, a very sweet. I'm sorry that Brian just was talking about tender bars. Hey, no, this is, let's have three sweet things. Sure, why not? Well, Scott, Scott, I got a, Scott balanced us out with like the most unsweet.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Yeah, the fourth, the fourth thing is the antithesis of sweet. That's fine. I'll be that guy this week. All of the different, all the different family have their strange quirks. And so like every episode is a bunch of stories usually, like, that are all happening simultaneously and they're all interacting, intersecting with each other. And because they live in a small town on the Arctic Circle, you know, they're kind of like free-range children. You know, they get out and about and do stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:56 And the main thing that I want to make sure you understand about Great North is the Malonyu sisters have gone 100% full bore on music. Like, you know how Bob's Berger's about every other episode ends with a new song? A song, yeah. This show, every episode ends with a new song. And most shows have another original in the middle of the show. They're often kind of short, but like it really cares about making fun of what, you know, what you've encountered. Like what there will be a crazy joke in the middle of the show where you're just like, I don't think that works. And then they're going to come back to it with a song later.
Starting point is 01:35:37 They're going to, they're going to sing about that crazy joke and expand it out into, you know, in the universe. It's, it's millennial humor is what I'm saying. And I'm all here for it. It's streaming on Hulu. It's a Fox show. Like if you have 5 TV, you could watch it on Fox when new episodes come back. But it's not streaming on Fox. It's a weirdest thing.
Starting point is 01:36:00 You got to go to Hulu to watch it. Yeah, it's one of those direct to Hulu things, which I don't know, there's more and more of those these days. But that's okay with me. I feel like those have longer legs and staying power for whatever reason. They don't get canceled as quickly as shows that end up on the main networks. I'm down with that. Peacock has some of that too going on where it's like this would never last on NBC
Starting point is 01:36:20 but here it is, you know, running on their show. They better not ever cancel this show. I will be so upset. It looks like it's a little tiny bit expensive and like that worries me, right?
Starting point is 01:36:32 Like because, you know, you get people like Nick Offerman, Megan Mullali, like that Will Forte, they probably demand a, you know, a little bit of money.
Starting point is 01:36:40 And man, I hope that, oh, I'll be so frustrated if it's two seasons and out because they've set themselves up for a nice long run. Yeah. Well, I'm going to watch it.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Both, all the things you guys recommended today, I'm totally doing these. These are good. How am I going to have any time for anything for me? I'll watch all this heartfelt stuff and then I'll have to watch something horrible and evil. I know, you got to balance out that, right? I watch something. Oh, my God, that was so hard to watch. Oh, feel better now.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Yeah, better fireup shutter.com. See what they got going this week. I don't know. Anyway, hey, speaking of exciting things, this week, we're back to FilmSack, everybody it's uh the long wait is over and we're going to watch book of eli oh book of and i'm just going to admit i haven't ever seen it you're going to like it i love it i hope you like it i love it i should say i haven't ever seen it until i just watched it on saturday oh okay right there you go then i i uh i came in this thing completely blind yeah so to speak
Starting point is 01:37:37 yeah yeah well hey now spoilers spoilers um it's an old movie you can't really spoil it uh but i love that movie and I can't wait to talk about it that'll be this weekend uh so check out your podcast feeds this weekend for film sac at filmsac.com Randy anything else you'd like to say before you go no no that's all you got well walking back just one more thing yeah he got me he got you there that's great I did like I saw it coming oh he fully got me completely got me I will admit I will admit defeat the hands of Randy today that was pretty good all right well there you have it That's the end of the show today, everybody. We all had fun, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:38:18 We had fun. I had fun. Yeah, I had fun, too. You seem to have fun. From here, it looked like you. From here, from there, it looked like fun. I'll tell you what, from here. It was really fun right from here.
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Starting point is 01:39:03 except a song, I guess. So do you have one? I have that. Yes. Kevin Colson wrote in and said after I noticed your Quadrophenia album behind you. Oh. I kept hearing the real me in my skull. Could you please play Wasp's version of The Real Me by The Who? Well, sure, Kevin Colson, happy to do that.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Yeah, Wasp, hair metal band, Extraordinaire. Yeah, maybe less extraordinary. Did a cover of The Real Me for the Headless Children back in 1989, the album called The Headless Children. Originally by The Who from Quadrophenia. Here is The Real Me. I saw these guys in concert in 85. They opened for
Starting point is 01:39:46 Van Halen, I think. Van Halen, that's right. Okay. Yeah, it was the 1980, or the 5150 tour. And Wasp was really stupid, super stupid. I mean, I had fun, but it was dumb. Anyway, here you go. We are Satan's people themselves.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Wasp, coming at you. We'll see you guys tomorrow. A whole new show, a bunch of stuff. So be back then. We'll see you. I'll wait back to the doctor to get another shrink. I said it's telling about my weekend, but I never could change what it needs. Can you see the be in a bee in a be doctor?
Starting point is 01:40:43 Can you see the real me, doctor? Well, doctor! I went back to my mother. I said, I'm crazy for her help me. She said, I know how it feels, son. Because it runs in the family. Can I tell me? Can this is the real me, mother?
Starting point is 01:41:13 Mama, can you see the real me? Mama, well, mama! Can you see, can you see, can you see the real me? Can you see, can you see the green, the green, the moonie, the moon, the way? The cracks between the pavement storms Like rivers are flowing rain Strange people who know me From behind every window pane
Starting point is 01:41:51 The girl I used to love Lives in this yellow house Yesterday should pass me by To know what I know Can you see glory of me? Can you? Can you? Can you see the glory
Starting point is 01:42:13 and me? Can you? Oh, yeah. I I ended up with a preacher full of lies and hates I sing to scare him a little so soon to the golden gaze
Starting point is 01:42:41 Can you see the real me preacher, preacher Can you see the reality? Preacher? Oh, yeah. Can you see? Can you see? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Can you see the reality of me? Doctor, doctor. Can you see the reality of me? Can you see they're me? This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at FrogPants.com. I trusted that son of a slith.

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