The Morning Stream - TMS 2280: Section 8 Peaches
Episode Date: April 20, 2022I don't like cottage cheeeeeeeeeese. 4/20, or as We Say in Colorado: Wednesday. In BJ Territory. Sleeping Kinky. A Different Matt. MMmmmmmmmm, Peach Meat. Bad food is like a shiny Pokemon. One PARTICU...LAR Batman Movie. Kinked your hose the wrong way. Laughing Morning-Show-Guy Stuff. Scott Counts Dead People. All my balls in the air. I've been to MeoWolf but I've never been to me. Large Curds with Tom! Hawaii Breakfast Reccamentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS, I don't like cottage cheese.
420, or as we say in Colorado, Wednesday.
In BJ territory.
Sleeping kinky.
A different mat.
Mmm, peach meat.
Bad food is like a shiny Pokemon.
One particular Batman movie.
Kinked your hose the wrong way.
Laughing morning show guy stuff.
Scott counts dead people.
All my balls in the air.
I've been to Meow Wolf, but I've never been to me.
Kurds with Tom.
Hawaii breakfast
recommendals with Randy and more
on this episode of
The Morning Stream.
If it's not around the house,
it's just around the corner.
Having a 7-Eleven store
in the neighborhood is just like having
your own refrigerator
full up with cold fresh milk.
Right on the price,
right around the corner,
right there where you need it.
Oh, thank heaven for 7-Eleven,
your neighborhood dairy store.
Just jerk a bottle of soda
and I parted.
This is the morning stream with Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbett, big old freaking dirt blanket.
Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, April 20th, 2021. Yeah, it's 420.
Okay. 420
Smoke weed every day.
Yeah, it's time for us to celebrate the great patron saint of all things, marijuana.
Snoop Dogg, Snoop Doggy, Snoopy, Snoopi, poopie, poop dog.
Yeah, or as we call it here in Colorado, Wednesday.
Yeah, Wednesday, because you guys are, it's 420 all the time.
Well, it's at least 420 once a day, right?
No, there's still going to be a huge, there's a huge thing that happens in Civic Center Park.
It's been canceled the last couple years, but it's been.
back on this year and it's like just the park is filled with people smoking pot and uh you don't
want to go you don't even want to go anywhere near the streets around that because a lot of those
people think that they're fine to drive and uh when you get stuck behind somebody going 15 miles an hour
and you can't see through their car windows because it's so cloudy in there you know there's a
problem yeah i i didn't realize they had like a whole celebration around it that's i just thought
it was like this weird little me-me-me-mention thing people do but apparently uh
You know, whatever. An excuse to have another party? Why not? Let's do it.
Yep. Yep, exactly.
Plus, I think Americans are starved for more holidays. Everyone else in the world takes longer holidays.
You got Easter Monday, for hell's sakes in the UK. What even is that? What's Easter Monday?
I mean, come on. I mean, I get it.
People are just making up stuff now.
Yeah, no, for real. And Claire says, are you kidding? No, I'd never, in fact, until this year, I never heard of Easter Monday.
That's news to me. I didn't know. And maybe others have known about it.
it. And I know there's the whole three days and then Jesus rose and all that. And so this is all part of that. But really, you guys just have a drunk holiday. That's what that is. That's what it is. Easter's not even really a drinking holiday. Like, it's one of the very few non-drinking holidays. Right. Yeah. And then you got, oh, good Friday. What's good about getting killed on a cross? What's good about that? That's not good. Right? Because, you know, they walked away afterwards and said, good.
I almost sprayed tea all over my...
I know, I'm glad I cut that right during a drink.
I was locked and loaded, as we were saying last week.
Oh, man, that almost went bad.
Anyway, happy 420, everybody.
I would like to play a clip to celebrate that Brian sent me yesterday.
So here's the deal.
We talked to...
We had this news story yesterday about the dude that watched a lot of Spider-Man over and over and over.
What was the guy's name?
Can't find it.
Anyway, well, Ramiro Alonis.
his name. Oh, well done. Geez. Nice.
Well, just looking at the tab here.
And he was the Florida man that watched Spider-Man
22 times. He's now set
the world record and is in the Guinness Book of World Records.
Well done, dude, what did it?
Now, Brian
sent a clip. I guess this came from
Kimmel or something. Where was this? It came
from Jimmy Kimmel, yeah. Okay. So I
I normally hate doing that, by the way,
like doing the, oh, well, here
let's just copy the audio
from a TV show, the
soup or something like that. But
that's where we got that good morning
and the morning in the news this morning, good morning thing
anyway, so. Yeah, why not? It's fine.
Look, once in a while, there's gold to be mined
in those hills, and you found a little bit
of gold, I think. And the reason this is
funny is going to be obvious, but
I'll play it. It's that story,
but listen to how this lady remembers it
or tells it, okay? It's a guy and a lady.
Here you go. Enjoy. Now the Guinness
World Record holder for watching Spider-Man
No Way home 292 times.
He says he spent 720
hours or 30 days watching the movie and spent around $3,400 on tickets.
My goodness, he is a super fan.
I'll say, I mean, that's some real love for one particular Batman movie.
Okay.
I don't know if she just, was she just not paying attention?
Was she just, uh, did she just think that, you know, all superheroes are interchangeable?
I love that.
It's just so damn funny.
Not all heroes wear tights except for the two that they're talking about.
Anyway, I thought that was great, so perfect place to play it here on the show.
I ended up with like the worst case of vertigo this morning.
Really?
We just woke up with it.
Yeah, I almost called you because it was so bad.
I thought, oh, I can't do a show like this.
And then it sort of dissipated.
So what it must have been was it's almost always this.
It'll sleep in a weird position, kink something off.
And then the hose will go to normal in the morning and then I'll get up.
And then as soon as I stand up, I was fine laying down.
it's like you know 10 minutes to seven or something this morning and I roll over and I go to get up
and I sit up and the room just goes oh like just keeps moving and I start drifting this way
and Kim's like are you okay I'm like oh vertigo vertigo and I don't know you know it's very rare
but once in a while I'll get it and I thought man not today this week sucks let's not have it
now well you know what though better let me just say better today than a week from today that's true
That's true.
Yeah.
I hope their hotel rooms don't give me a kink, you know?
There's a lot of kink that happens in those hotel rooms.
I realize as I said it.
I shouldn't have said it.
But yeah, like it was so bad.
So I got up and I walked around a little bit and just kind of stretched.
And that helped, took a shower.
That totally helped.
And I think I'm fine now, but just a little, you know, like you could come push me, Ryan,
and I'd probably go about 10 miles that way.
You tip right over.
Yeah.
I think that's where I'm at right now.
so anyway if you guys ever deal with that it's about as fun as you know like if i got a real
bad case of vertigo like the kind that wouldn't leave they'd probably have to break my puk streak
probably be the end of it oh god no kidding yeah because i'd hurl you know that's a lot of movement
and uh you're not actually moving i hate it i don't like it no sir i know no no heck no i mean
you might as well you if you can do that you just might as well go on the uh the ferris wheel
the uh the uh yeah i may as well who needs drinking when you can just barf on command let's do it
Right, exactly, yeah.
Anyway, the point is we're here, and we're making this happen.
It's 420.
Why would we miss this?
You know that burp and governor I talked about some time ago?
Yeah, we looked for audio yesterday and couldn't find it, the burp and governor.
Couldn't find it.
So we now have it, thanks to a listener, adhesive wombat, often in the chat.
Sean, a.k.a. adhesive wombat.
Sean, thanks for sending this in.
Here's what he said in the email.
He says, hello, since it came up on the,
show this morning. I figured you might get a kick out of the full
video of Governor Meemaw belching on
TV. Is it really Governor Meemaw?
No, it can't be Governor Meemaw, really?
Did they just call her that because she's like a grandma?
Probably.
Okay. Well, I guess this showed up on the Rick and Bubba show.
It's a popular morning show over there in Alabama is where they got this.
Anyway, she actually calls onto the show and explains herself.
You see, she had a Philly's cheese steak sandwich and
cottage cheese for lunch and it didn't sit real well with her, was her answer.
He says as an Alabama native, please feel fee to roast K. Ivey. Oh, that's her real name,
K.I.V. On TMS anytime you like, she has fully earned it. Love the show, though. Sean.
All right. So, Sean sent me this file. I'm going to play it or this video clip.
See, I actually might be able to, let's see. Hold on. I want the chat to see it if they can.
Yeah, here it is. Okay. So this is going to have some laughing morning show guy stuff in it.
I apologize.
The reason TMS exists is to be the antithesis of this.
Of what you're about to hear you.
So some of this is not, you know, I want to apologize in advance.
But anyway, here we go.
So we got full, do we have full volume?
Yes, we do.
All right, here we go.
Let's see.
It's coming out of May here.
They are, we're getting a slight increase.
Oh, geez.
Oh, that's a juicy one, too.
There was some stuff.
Some stuff came up with that.
I know, dude.
It makes me laugh so hard, though.
Like, part of me's like, oh, I don't know.
It's because of the time I spent in the South.
There's a certain sort of just let yourself go quality to southern things.
I don't know what to call it.
So part of me likes it because I'm like, yeah, that's right.
You're like a real person.
But she's also kind of a psycho, so whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe don't eat cottage cheese.
Actually, you know what?
Just going to straight up.
Don't eat cottage cheese.
I think it's gross.
Oh, really?
I like cottage cheese.
So, like, you know, I'll do this instead doing chips or, you know, fries or something.
I'll do a cottage cheese and then some sliced cling peaches, cling peaches.
Oh, gosh, that sounds horrid.
All right, so here's a thing.
How come you, the only time you ever hear of cling peaches is when they're canned?
You never say, oh, I'm going to go to the store and buy some cling peaches.
Kling?
Like, with a gene on the end?
Yeah, have you never heard of cling peaches?
I'm trying to think.
Have I heard of cling peaches?
I'll bet my wife would hit me right now because we've had them or something, but I don't think I know what those are.
Is that a brand?
It's, uh, I'm looking.
I want to find out with cling peaches.
Okay, so cling, there are two different kinds of peaches.
We're moving to the country and we're going to eat a lot of peaches.
Um, there's Freestone and clingstone peaches.
And it's where the, uh, the peach meat, if you will, is, um, is, um,
embedded into the pit as opposed to
freestone where you can just pop the pit out.
Oh, okay.
So the ones that have got the little fleshy kind of
connectors.
Tendrils.
Yeah.
Come in,
yes, uh-huh.
Those are cling peaches.
Okay,
because they cling to the pit.
That makes sense.
Right.
All right.
The ones that dress in women's clothing are cling,
clinger peaches,
by the way.
They're always trying to get that section 8.
They never quite get it.
He's still,
dude,
I am,
so I'm in MASH.
I'm at the end of,
I think,
season six oh i should take a look because i'm i'd like to get this right so it's about two three seasons
into uh the bj territory yeah that's right yes yeah season six episode 22 where uh where gomer uh or gober
goober goober goober comes to uh the 407 7th from the 8063 i never remember who
goober and gomer which the witch's place replacing uh hawkeye for uh for uh for
for a week.
I, if you would have said, hey, Brian,
all right, when did, when did Colonel Blake die?
Oh, at the end of, I think, season three.
Okay.
When did Burns and Burns get replaced with Winchester?
I think that was like probably the end of season four, maybe.
And then if you would have said, when did radar leave?
I would have said, oh, it was really early on.
It was right after Henry Blake.
So I think that would have been season, like middle of season.
four, end of season four. No, I'm
in season six. We still have
radar. There's still plenty of radar. Yeah, radar's there
I think until eight or
maybe nine. There's 12
or 11 or 12 total or something.
I think that's right, yeah. He's actually there for a lot
but he, there is
a season, maybe you're in it. You might be, or maybe
it's the next one, but there's a season where he
is, he's there, but he's barely there.
Yeah, this is the season where he's barely
there. Like, there's an episode where
he's a radio DJ while
everything's going on. Like there's a lot of
surgery going on.
He's kind of playing the tunes
and he keeps playing
sentimental journey for Potter.
But other than that episode,
it's like,
you know,
like he makes a little drive-by in an episode.
Which is crazy because he's so
in the thick of it
for the whole rest of the series
that he's there.
And then suddenly in that whole season,
he's just barely there.
And who knows what's going on?
They really focus on Klinger
during, like, this season.
Like, Klinger is in every single episode.
Radar is in one out of
every four probably.
Yeah, Klinger getting groomed for the replacement of, you know, to be the county clerk,
the company clerk.
Right, yes.
The comptroller, he's going to be the comptroller.
To take over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, Burns was in there way longer than I thought.
Yeah, I thought Burns was gone.
Like, around the time that Blake left, I thought Burns was gone.
But no, there's a lot of Potter Burns overlap.
Yeah, they ended up having a whole string of like, BJ is the big trickster and he plays a lot
of jokes on Frank
type stuff
which you forget
if you haven't seen
in a while
but anyway
yeah that whole cast
is like dead
except for
Loretta Switt
of course I go here
you got Loretta Swit
Alan Alda
and then who else
so they're all done
well I mean
a bunch of secondary characters
still around but
sure I'm sure
Donald Pinobscott
is still alive
oh BJ
BJ's still around
what am I saying
he's around
is Linnell
is he
yeah
Linnell
Mike
No, what is his name?
Mike Farrell.
Mike Farrell.
Yeah.
Linnell's close.
I thought he died early, didn't he?
No, no.
He's still with us.
It's what's his name?
Trapper died.
Right, okay.
And then you got your Frank died.
He died early.
He was only like 53.
Yeah, Frank died early.
Okay.
Boy, you look at Mike Farrell's Wikipedia photo.
You might think, is that Mike Farrell or Jimmy Carter?
I can't tell.
I'm going to put it in our distance.
scored here because uh he's he i i'll bet i've seen this one let me see here i'll bet you have too
oh yeah dude look at that he may as well be building huds or whatever he looks like carter
lamenting about the iran con or no the iran hostage uh negotiations and uh growing peanuts
and building houses for poor people there he is yeah uh all right well there's all that
thank you by the way to adhesive on bat for that fantastic clip that was great yeah um okay
Hey, I've got some updates for Vegas, God, you ready?
Lay them on me.
We're canceling.
We're done.
That's not, I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
It's the big day of, so a week from today is the biggest of the days, right?
It is the, a week from today is the biggest of the days.
That is where we've got a board game thing going on.
We've got a ballroom for four hours and a, and a bartender in there who's going to be serving this drinks, both of the alcoholic and non-alcoholic variety.
And as they say, if you're, if you're bored.
room or sorry if your game room lasts longer than four hours get the f out of there because
that means brian and i have to pay more no it really like really what it is is if you're board
if your board game room if your ballroom lasts for longer than four hours you need a bartender
that's really what the that's a good way of putting it anyway so that's going on yeah so and while
we're on that subject uh if you want to bring a board game please do the the the uh the guy that
usually provides games for us brings a ton of board games is not going to be able to make it this year
to Vegas and he's always you know always provided us with a ton of board games to use um he's
unfortunately not going to be able to make it and I feel bad that I can't remember his name right now
Matt but um Matt oh geez what's wrong with me I was going to say Matt and I didn't want to say
oh it's always Matt it's definitely Matt but I can't it is Matt yes uh oh board games hold on
I'm going to write this down I'm going to find this damn it I love giving him credit because he's a rad
and it's Matt
Not Johnson, different Matt.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, wait, here it is, maybe.
Nope, can't find it.
All right, well, we're pretty sure it's Matt.
It's Matt.
Anyway, that guy, he's not going to be able to make it.
So we're relying on ourselves.
It's all up to us as a group, as a team.
So we want you to bring a board game.
Oh, there it is, Matt's, Matt.
Oh, no, never mind.
People are making fun.
They're making it out.
chat room.
I'm totally, totally butted to Matt Splatt.
I was about to say Matt Splatt, Coach, from home.
Thanks a lot.
Red Fraggle, there is absolutely a place to sign up for board games, and that's exactly
where I was going with this.
If you go to VivaTMSVagus.com under the board game link, you will, or under the board
game header for Wednesday, you'll find a link to a spreadsheet.
Listen, we're going, we're going high tech with this.
It's a Google spreadsheet that you have the ability to
edit. So hop in there and
put your name, put your game
and two reasons. Number
one, it's a way that we can say, oh, somebody's already
bringing a copy of exploding
kittens. Great. I don't need to bring one.
But
it's also a way that at the end of that event, we can
make sure that everybody's matched up with
their games. Everybody gets their games back
and that sort of thing. Sure. Oh, good point.
Yeah. This is a nice
secondary reason because I would hate
if somebody didn't get their game back. That would suck.
It'd feel bad.
Yeah.
Well, he can't log in as you, Scott.
Who?
I saw you put that there.
Oh, I thought you're asking for our preferred.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, he's just Randy.
Oh, okay.
I'm trying to, I'm like, Brian Dunaway, while we were talking about the Spider-Man
Batman clip, Randy, or Brian Dunaway said, oh, crap, I can't make it.
I'm going to miss a feud today.
Yeah.
So I've been talking to you and multitasking, helping.
Randy get logged in here talking to Alki Bob about getting along and stuff.
Oh, well, you've done a nice, a nice job.
Sorry, I thought I saw this thing where it says, give me your preferred email.
And I'm like, oh, oh, okay, I better hurry up and do it.
No, it's all good.
It's not you.
It's all good.
Oh, the link expired.
Ooh, okay, let me get back to Alkiab.
Hold on a second.
He says the link has expired.
Do you have Alkebub like online right now too as well?
Yes, yes.
It's like I am, I am keeping all.
my balls in the air is what I'm doing right now.
Many balls being tipped in the air.
Many balls.
Board game sheet is up.
Go there, go to the site and do the board game sheet.
Also, the video game tournament.
The sign-up sheet is there.
We've already got 16 players plus you and me, so 18 players total.
You know, basically we will keep adding players up until, I don't want to wait and say,
oh, day of.
But I could say day of, couldn't I?
So go in there.
in there and register for the damn thing we know there's there's uh 70 or so of you guys come into
this thing so uh 16 players in the tournament totally fine i did update the time on the website
it was um thanks to my copy and pace skills it took the place of the pinball hall of fame time
even though it's really our evening event it's our post dinner event so it starts at seven
then we've got the place we're there at the place for the rest of the night and they're open
until 2 a.m.
So get your rampage on until 2 o'clock in the morning.
Man.
If you're old like me, you'll go home at 10.
We'll see how that goes.
Exactly.
No, that's cool.
So the schedule's up to date and that now has the right info on it.
All right.
Awesome.
Now, one more thing, or a couple more things.
In the Discord, Discord is going to be your best place for coordination and figuring
things out.
there are a couple new channels in there.
There's a Monday, Tuesday, and a Wednesday channel, specific channels.
Those are temporary channels.
We're going to delete them after the event.
But it's a place where instead of everybody filling up the TMS dining channel with,
well, I want to go here for dinner on Monday.
Oh, I want to go here for this place on Wednesday.
And people trying to coordinate.
We can actually have everybody altogether, you know, say, okay, well, Monday, after the pool party,
a few of us are going to head down to the strip.
and do the bar car.
It's a great place to coordinate that
and not have that information get lost.
Sure.
Good point.
Yeah, the Discord's always good
for all that stuff.
So please have that at the ready, everybody.
Real-time info.
Somebody might pop in and go,
hey, I'm at the thing.
Is anyone here as well?
And you can say, yeah, I'm here.
And then meet up and make out, okay?
Right.
Yeah, I know about making out.
Maybe don't make out, yeah.
Maybe not that.
Maybe don't do that.
Let's see.
What else?
I know I've got that in there.
Was there anything else on that part?
Um, no. So, oh, people are planning on doing like Area 15 on Tuesday afternoon. Sounds great. I'm going there too. There's a, there's a steam punky Jules Verne whiskey tasting place. Of course, there's Omega Mart if you've never been to Meow Wolf. Scott, this is, this means you too. If you and Kim would, your minds would be blown at Omega Mart at Area 15. So. Have I been to that? No, I haven't. Maybe we'll do that.
No, you would have been to that. You would, you would be nodding in all.
Oh, Mowulf is incredible.
So a lot of people are talking about doing that on Tuesday, so think about that.
Finally, oh, this is the best thing.
So Wednesday, a week from today, we have our live TMS.
I have been working for weeks on a game, on a thing that your favorite frog pants, your favorite TMS hosts and guest stars will be competing in that they have absolutely no idea about.
Okay, all right.
I could say something in this little bag that I'm not showing.
You can see the top of the bag.
This little bag is part of it.
Wow.
It's not cocaine.
Okay.
Now that I show that I'm thinking, oh, they're going to think it's cocaine.
No, it's not cocaine either.
We don't do the hard stuff here on TMS.
Exactly.
But after our show, we've got about a 90, like 75 to 90 minute show, a live TMS that we're going to be doing.
after that there's a band called the Acid Sisters
and then after that
coming back after two years
of not performing they didn't think
they were going to be able to do it for our show
because one of the members is a city councilman
and has worked the next day
but they're going to do it anyway
Same Sex Mary
back on stage after two years
not since the pandemic have you been able to see
Same Sex Mary live
and they're going to be performing and I could not be more excited
I didn't realize they were doing that.
I didn't know that they hadn't done anything since.
Yeah, they hadn't done anything since.
Yeah, a lot of places have been closed, a lot of places, you know, they've been very cautious and careful and stuff.
So, Acid Sisters, so TMS Live, Acid Sisters, same-sex Mary, all at Artifice Bar, Wednesday night.
It's going to be an incredible, incredible time.
Damn, dude.
That's awesome.
I'm excited.
And Mike, I'm now committing Brian to a thing that he has not known about yet.
Oh, really? Okay.
Brian is committed to on microphone at some point before that performance to do James's voice for all of you to hear.
Okay, sounds good.
You got to do it, man. There's no getting around it.
All right, I'll do it.
He's heard me do it.
I am totally fine doing it in front of him.
I think, but I think, uh, Svett said something like, yeah, that doesn't sound like him at all.
Man, I'm telling you, I think it's the most dead-on impression anyone I know does.
So, Svennyl have some words.
Well, that's exciting.
Very cool news.
Yeah.
Excited to see those guys.
Those guys are great.
All right.
Well, should we do a game then?
Should we get Randy in?
Do that whole thing?
Yeah, let's get, we've talked about so much.
Let's get Randy in who's coming in for Brian Dunway.
He's in our in our game show, so he's ready to go.
He's ready to rock.
Yummy cottage cheese is his name.
You know, I'm going to get some, I'm going to get some shit here.
about cottage cheese and whether I should
be liking it or not. But let's get in here
and do this.
Music can only mean one thing. It's time for
Babel Royale, Tad Pooley Feud edition.
Joining us today in place of Brian Dunaway is Mr. Randy
Deluxe. Randy Jordan. Hello. Good morning.
Good morning. Morning. Stream. I have literally
just finished a bowl of
cottage cheese. I'm not kidding.
Gross. Gross. What do you put on it?
So here's the deal. For like 20 years
in my life, I've had something
called Hawaii Breakfast and this was actually something I came across in a dietitian's
like recipe book and the whole point of it was to be a perfectly balanced breakfast so it's got
the right amount of protein carbs fats and it's pretty nutritious so Hawaii breakfast is
cottage cheese and you put pineapple and papaya on it or you know I don't have papaya today so
it's pineapple and canned fruit, right?
Like you say, like clink peaches.
It's pineapple and canned fruit.
And then importantly, you chop up several macadamia nuts and put that on top of
that whole thing.
Your texture, sure.
And importantly, good fat.
So you got the cottage cheese with the proteins.
There's some protein in mac nuts.
And then the canned fruit.
And my gosh, man, when it's fresh pineapple and fresh papaya that you just cut up and put
on that, oh my gosh.
squeeze a lime on this, I'm telling you, Hawaii breakfast is the best breakfast in the world.
And I literally just finished eating it.
Wow.
You're, uh, that's gross and, uh, good job.
I don't know what it is.
You know what it reminds me of?
It reminds me of curdled milk or something.
I just can't do it.
No, it totally.
And, and, you know, it kind of is, right?
I mean, it is the, you know, it's the not quite cheese, not quite milk, uh, stage of,
uh, yeah, the cheese making process.
So it's a little runny, you know, a little bit.
bit of runny in there.
About a year ago, I fell into dietitian TikTok.
Have you guys, have I told you guys about this?
No.
No.
TikTok, like every other social media app is completely overrun with people calling
themselves nutritionists and saying things that don't make sense and aren't scientific
and so on.
Sure.
And so, like, there are these actual, you know, professional dietitians that are on TikTok
and they're, like, trying to fight back.
And it's just really sad because they're very small a number, you know, they're doing
science.
They're talking about facts and, like.
They're just, they can't make any headway, but I so enjoy watching them try.
You know, they try so hard.
I will bet you that, um, that cottage cheese is more divisive in our tadpool group than
mayonnaise.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I bet you, you know, or cilantro or something like that.
Like, I'm guessing that, uh, there's way more people who are like, oh, I love cottage cheese.
Oh, I hate cottage cheese.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also, I also associated with my mom.
These are, you're naming things that I can make myself, right?
Like, what's mayonnaise?
Manease is eggs and oil.
Yeah.
And some spices.
You put some garlic, some onion, right?
Yeah.
Like, you can make that in your blender.
Let's go.
Yeah.
I had a tribute question about that last night.
You can make cottage cheese if you know how.
That wouldn't be...
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely, you can make cottage cheese.
Yeah, you make all this stuff.
But look...
I saw that on a 3-2-1 contact or something.
They were talking about how to make cottage cheese.
If that doesn't take you back 40-year-olds...
For me, it was just my mom.
My mom had a tub of this stuff in the fridge.
and she'd pull it out once in a while and put like weird fruit in it,
and I just have a bad association with it.
How is there,
how do you tell when cottage cheese goes bad?
Is there a way to tell?
Oh, it's so sour.
Like,
but when it hasn't gone bad yet,
it's sweet.
It's a very sweet taste.
Yeah,
you have to taste it to know.
So if you taste it and it's bad,
see,
I like food that I can look at and know it's bad.
That's the kind of thing.
Yeah.
I don't want to have to taste it.
It's got to change color like a,
like a shiny Pokemon.
I needed to be quite clear.
apparent that that food has gone back. I had a bottle of partially used a pasta sauce in the fridge
and I pulled it out and I dumped it in a pan. I was making some pasta, right? I was going to put
some red sauce on it. Yeah. And dumped in a pan, I cooked some sausage into it, right? It was great.
But when I went to throw the bottle away, I looked inside the cap and there was a big clump of mold there
and I thought, you know, it's fine. I cooked it. Oh, it's totally fine. It's totally fine.
I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't like run to eat it. Like, I wouldn't be like super stoked.
But that stuff, like a little bit of mold on spaghetti sauce is not going to hurt you.
It was on the inside of the lid, too.
It wasn't on, not touching the stuff.
Yeah, you'd be all right.
I've done that with bread where I've eaten around like a blue ball, you know, just kind of eat around it.
It's got, you'll love this guy.
I used to have a girlfriend who ate cottage cheese every day.
And what she put on it was salt and pepper.
Oh, well, that makes it a little better.
That's a little better.
Yeah, we do that.
If we don't have peaches, then that's absolutely what goes with our, uh, our, uh, our
sandwich in the afternoon is sandwich and
cottage cheese with salt and pepper on it.
Yeah. Oh, you know what else is really good is
you can get the bottles of
sweet chili
sauce. Oh, I do you like that?
It's like a red gelatinous sauce
with sweet chilies and stuff in it. That is
great with kind of cheese. Really interesting.
So I like that on
Kim makes a wedge salad and puts that
mixes that with ranch. Fantastic.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So good. I am not
I am not making this up for my entire
childhood, my dad made a wedge salad where he took lettuce, that iceberg lettuce, and the only
thing he put on it was half mayo, half peanut butter. He would mix mayo and peanut butter together
and put that on the salad. Wow. Okay. My favorite, my favorite sex move is the wedge salad. Really
enjoy it. Well, anyway, hey. Mine is the half mayo, half peanut butter.
Yours is a more descriptive process. I don't like it. All right. Hey, Brian,
Randy, you're here.
You're taking the place of the old Dunaway on this here thing.
Oh, we got to take a call.
I just realized I don't have.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, we need a player.
Totally forget.
So if you haven't called yet, try again.
Or if you did and try again.
If you haven't, go ahead and call.
801-471-0-462.
That's 801-471-462.
If you would like to be considered for today's chance to win some stuff and also hang out with us.
So give us a call.
So I think somebody.
Also hang out with, wow.
Yeah.
and hang out well you know like we're hangoutable we're virtually hanging out with
us we're a fun group we like to we like to do stuff oh I got to play some guy I got to
play this while you're here oh yeah good yeah good I'm gonna do this right now okay first
let me take this call uh hi who's this uh this is Navarine from the chat Navarine welcome to the show
I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on hold for one second you'll still hear us but we won't hear you
for a second because I got to play a file so don't go anywhere because you're our
contestant today. Okay, so hang on. I should really breathe. Okay, here we go. Let me see
where he put this. Here it is. Randy's Oscar bet, okay? I haven't heard this yet, but
apparently, so on FilmSack this last week, you and I said, wait, didn't Scott and Randy have a bet
about Best Actor or something? And I couldn't remember. And even Brian thought it was a bet that he made
with you about Will Smith winning or not winning or whatever. So I have the definitive audio here
from that discussion. It was before you went to Hawaii.
And I have not heard it yet.
It was right before the Oscars.
Yeah, yeah, right before the Oscars.
And I haven't heard it.
So this is going to be me also finding out right now in real time with you who won that bet.
All right.
And I have a feeling that I lost.
But let's play it and find out.
Okay, so here we go.
This year, if you're listening to this before the Oscars, trust me, you're going to watch Will Smith win an Oscar for Best Actors.
There is no one else in that category.
I'll bet you money, Denzel Washington walks away with it this year.
I think they want to give him one more.
I will not only take your money.
I will give you odds.
I will, seriously, I will give you three to one against that.
I didn't have any skin in this, but now I do.
Okay.
Again, again, we're, we're in draft kings.
Can I pull this up in draft kings?
We're going to have a little wager.
Me and Scott, I'm going to give you three to one.
I'm taking Will Smith.
You're taking Venzo.
Yeah, if I'm, we'll make it simple.
If mine wins next time we see each other, which hopefully isn't too long in the future.
I'll buy you lunch.
If you win, I'll buy you lunch.
or you'll or the other way around
I don't know why I said it that way
at the end of it sounded like you said either way
you're gonna buy him lunch yeah that is what that sounded like
and I I don't think Jamie
I don't well if he edited that
that's really funny Jamie ha ha that's very funny
but I have a feeling I just screwed up and said it wrong
anyway either way I'd lose Randy I owe you lunch I guess
that's how this goes I wish
I wish we had a little clip from the most recent
film sack first
yeah because that's what makes it so funny
is that I just bring up the wager at
Scott is like, no.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
No.
I was sure that it didn't happen.
I was sure I was the one who was like, oh, yeah, no, it's totally going to be Cumberbatch.
It's not going to be Smith.
Come on.
I don't know.
If anything, it helped me understand that Mandela effect is a thing that happens all the time, no matter what you do.
It was, it was so weird.
The shortest Mandela effect, I think I've ever seen it.
We went from the zero to Mandela effect in like two weeks.
It was flippin' strange to be in Hawaii when the Will Smith slap.
became the only thing anyone wanted to talk about at all times is so weird like you're just you're in paradise doesn't really feel important you know yeah that feels like actually a good place to be because yeah for that reason exactly it's like uh who cares i'm on the beach i've got sun and sand and waves and pokey and all this stuff whatever that happened in another planet and another part of the world a millionaire smacked another millionaire i don't know if i can handle all these millionaires left it was this full week
of something dominating the news
that ended with Gerard Carmichael
going on Saturday Night Live
and saying he's not going to talk about it
for like five minutes straight
and I just love it
but I'm glad I was well but I'm glad I was
I'm glad you were gone I'm glad you're back
okay sorry all right remind me who is on the line again
who is this again Navarine is that who it is
Navarine yes
never where you're from yeah
where you from Navarine
I'm in South Dakota
yeah lived all over the country
but right now I live in South Dakota.
Oh, you got to watch out because that's where Fargo happens.
So it's big trouble.
Big trouble in South Dakota.
Oh, that'd be North Dakota.
That's right.
Well, no, they jump all over the place, right?
Deadwood happened.
Well, yeah, that's true.
Fargo definitely does not all take place in Fargo.
But you got Deadwood.
How about that?
Well, that's true.
You do have Deadwood.
So you got like a blind preacher.
Yeah.
I need to go watch that.
Yeah, you should watch.
That's very good.
Well, it's good to have you on here.
We're going to play a little game.
Brian's going to explain these rules and then we'll see if we can get you winning something.
Brian, take it away. That's right. It is time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Randy are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, and your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Randy, and if your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes Overlord 2 and Kingdom Classic. Oh, very nice.
Steve and both courtesy of Matthew Bach.
Nice.
All right, let's get to the thing.
If you've done this before, Randy,
you know how to do the buzzer system and all that.
I see it.
I see you the buzzard.
All right, so we hold the buzzard.
Hold the buzzard.
All right, we asked 540 tadpoolers and had the shortest number of passes on this one.
Uh-huh.
And your guess is?
Uh-huh.
Someone named yummy cottage cheese just ringing.
I will, uh, I will.
My guess is,
Macro Mouse needs to be turned off.
All right.
I'm resetting the buzzers.
Yeah, you'll let them.
We can reset that one.
Give your best answer to this.
Mouser over again, all right.
Name a character from the Simpsons that doesn't have Simpson as a last name.
Got.
Mo Sizzlack.
Mo, show me, Mo Sizzluck.
Number one.
Number one answer on the board.
People like their mo.
Oh, my gosh, I did not expect to get number one.
Mudge.
Midge, he always calls her.
This is going to be very interesting because there's like a hundred possible answers to this.
So you've got to think of not just who's the most popular,
but who'd be the most popular among our tadpullers is the thing.
All right, so since there's no answers that'll beat it.
Scott, you're going to be working with Navarine.
And you guys have control aboard, so let's see what you say.
All right, Navarine.
We've got like 30 years of the show to deal with.
Yeah, I'm going to take a nap.
And I don't watch Simpsons, so, but I do remember,
I don't remember the guy's first name.
I just remember Mr. Burns.
Okay, we do, yeah, Montgomery Burns we could do.
Let's do Burns.
I like it.
Mr. Burns.
See Montgomery Burns or Charles Montgomery Burns.
Show me Mr. Burns.
Nice.
I've seen a few clips over the years, but, yeah.
Fourth, all right, I like that.
Yeah.
There's a lot of middle names, by the way.
I looked it up this morning.
I wasn't about to put all of those in here.
My guess is the chat room would have said,
or the Tadpole would have said comic book guy.
It's got to be in there.
Oh, sure.
Yep.
All right.
No one loves that guy.
Mr.
Comic book guy.
Oh, come on.
Hold on.
There we go.
Oh, man.
What?
Ever.
Oh, man.
A comic book guy in the list, but was number 11, just outside the top 10.
That's some poopie right there.
What are you guys doing at home?
Yeah. Well, Team Cottage J is going to get on the board with Ned Flanders. We'll just get right to it.
All right. Sure. Show me. Show me. Yes, and didily doodly, Ned Flanders.
Third. All done. Number three. Damn it.
And while I'm going fast, I'm going to try to get number two here. I'm pretty sure that's going to be Mr. Millhouse. Little Millhouse.
What's his full name? I forget. Millhouse.
I guess just Mill House. He has a last name because his parents got the most. He does have a last name because his parents have last names too. That last name is Mill House Van Houten. Show me Mill House.
Yeah. Number five. That's good points there. Okay. I put you in the lead now. You're in the lead.
Well, then, how about for my next guess, let's see where side show
Bob shakes in.
Oh, okay, good choice.
All right.
Show me, I'm listening, side show Bob.
Oh, man.
Oh, that's big points.
Gosh, dang it.
It is big points.
Wow.
Well, then, well then, if it's big points for sideshow Bob, what kind of big points
am I getting for Krusty the Clown?
Right, show me Krusty.
That sounds gross.
Number eight.
Damn it.
Frick.
Let's see.
what am I
Do I have an office
Even still have an
Oh yeah
You still have
There's still enough answers
On the board
That you
You guys can win
Oh yeah
Yeah
I am now trying to get
9 and 10
And that's risky business
Right
Exactly
Am I by way
Am I playing for
Or against our guest
You're playing against our guest
So your hands are on his games
And if you win
You're going to go
Yink and take them away
Yeah
Okay
I have a bad feeling about this, but I have to try for the nine or ten spots.
Sure.
So let's have, uh, let's have Smithers.
Like Burns, Burns always says his name, right?
Smithers.
Release the hells.
All right, show me, Mr. Smithers.
Number 10.
That's a big one.
That might be the nail in the coffin.
Why is Whalen Smithers at the bottom?
Oh my gosh.
18, yeah, there's no way
for Neverine to win, but
let's play this out. You know what? As always, if you guys
get all of the answers right,
yeah, if we clear the table, we got that special.
If you clear the table, then Neverin gets the
Yeah, so there's still a chance. I would like for him to be able to part-to.
Oh, you see Sizzes and watch the Simpsons.
Yeah, okay. Okay, well, let's find out
if one of those remaining answers is Nelson.
Okay, sure.
Nelson Muntz.
Show me Nelson.
That's a shame.
Nelson Muntz was number 13.
All right.
As much as I love Super Nintendo Chalmers, I'm going with,
oh, let's do Ralph Wiggum.
Ralph Wiggum.
Oh, good one.
I've been sitting here scratching my head about which is the second most boated
answer.
There you go.
Show me, my cat's breath smells like cat food.
Ralph Wiggum, number six on the list.
Who could it?
He's great.
I love him.
Oh, I know who number two is.
Go on, Scott.
Can't say.
Got it.
Got it.
Barney.
Barney.
All right.
Show me Barney Gumble.
Number nine.
Oh, man.
Who is number two?
Who could it be?
Okay.
Oh, geez.
Why is this so?
Okay.
This is weird.
Yeah.
Who would be number two?
We could try.
Okay, I'll say
Apu-ness of peepa-po-palan.
Who needs the last name?
That's the one.
You got it.
Who needs the last name?
I do.
Show me number two, or show me
a poo.
Oh, yeah.
Todd Cockard lives in me.
Here we go.
Show me Apu.
Oh, it was.
Yay.
You know what that means?
That means that you win anyway.
I feel really good about how that went.
That's great.
That is awesome.
Winner,
winner.
Go ahead, Randy.
I'm just sorry, but Apu is not like the most,
like he's not the most common.
He's not in many episodes by comparison to these others.
Yeah, but everyone loves him.
Apu is great.
That's absolutely true.
Everybody does love it.
Despite some recent controversy with the characterization,
and who's doing it and all of that changes there on the show.
He's still one of the most beloved characters.
I love him.
He's great.
Surprisingly, Chalmers did not even make the list.
No, Super Nintendo Chalmers?
People want to say Super Nintendo Chalmers, right?
Damn, I'm sorry.
There he goes.
He's in the ones.
So one person said him.
Rounding out your top 20, just to knock him out here.
Comic book guy, groundskeeper Willie, Nelson Muntz,
Otto Mann, Dr. Nick Riviera.
Duff Man, Troy McClure, Chief Wiggum, Seymour,
Sigmore, Bleeding Gums Murphy, and Snake Jailbird.
No Mrs. Crabapple?
Nope.
Not till number 23.
Well, she's in there, way down there.
All right, all right.
Yeah.
One person, by the way, did say, uh, uh, grandpa.
Oh, Grandpa Simpson's amazing.
He's so good.
That should have been higher up there.
But his last name is Simpson.
That's true.
No, I know.
It's against the rule, but he's amazing.
Uh, real quick here, chat said, uh,
Who was it? Someone said Homer's brother,
did you guys know? He's also
Simpson is the problem, but Homer's brother
was played by
Oh, geez, my brain.
He was the
Penguin in the second
Batman movie.
Oh, Danny DeVito.
Danny DeVito plays Homer's brother.
I forgot about that. Okay. Yeah.
It's really good. It's very good.
And who's your favorite bit character
on The Simpsons? I'm just curious.
Like, bit character like one of these people?
That hasn't just been named?
Mine is the Bouvier sisters.
Oh, they're pretty great.
They're pretty great.
Oh, yeah, they are pretty great.
I like Gill, the car salesman or whatever salesman.
He's always going, oh, Gil, I'm going to have to grill.
You've got old Gil, you're going to have to live in your car again.
That's a really good one.
Troy McClure was one of my favorites until we lost Phil Hartman.
Oh, yeah.
I'm Troy McClure.
Oh, he was so good.
And Rainier Wolf Castle.
Yeah, they're all good.
How do you sleep at night, Rainier Wolf Castle?
on top of a huge pile of money with many beautiful ladies, he says.
He's amazing.
All right.
Well, Navarine, you win.
That means that these codes are now yours.
You just have to email Brian Coverville at gmail.com and he will hook you up.
Thanks for playing.
How do you feel about your massive win in the end there?
Yeah, I feel great.
I don't know what else to say about it.
I feel bad that you didn't get much of a chance to talk with us.
You're doing all right?
I think it's going well for you?
Yeah, you're doing all right over there?
Yeah.
you got that? I'm about to move
like a half mile away
but yeah, that's happening this weekend.
That's a bunch of work. Yeah, that'll be fun for you.
Hey, if you're on the freeway out there, it doesn't matter which
Dakota you're in. If you see a windshield scraper
sticking out of the snow, stop by there and you might find a little
cash is all I'm saying. Fargo reference.
Thanks, ma'am. We'll see you later. Bye.
There's a title for this episode of the morning stream.
It doesn't matter which Dakota you're in.
It really doesn't.
You're a U-R-I-N-E.
by the way, on that. There you go. Well, well done. Everybody involved. Randy, thanks for stepping in.
We're going to have you back here momentarily. Well, not momentarily. We've got a little time between now and then.
But Randy, you'll be back for recommendals a little later in the show. Thanks for stepping into Brian's shoes for a temporary amount of time.
Okay, bye.
Wow. Beat me to it. Nice. Work.
Yes. All right. We're going to take a quick break. I did want to mention this real quick.
So the interview I did yesterday was with Jeremy Feasel. He's in the World of War Crack.
team. They announced their new expansion
yesterday.
I could have Randy talk about this, I suppose.
But anyway, as a result, I got a chance to interview him,
talk about the game. We put it out on the core feed.
For those looking for juicy bits, no, I didn't
use it as an opportunity to snipe him with questions about
harassment. Sensationalism. Not happening here.
Go somewhere else for that. He's a developer
working on a team on a video game.
This isn't the place of the time. So quit asking
for that, everybody. You're weird when you ask.
for that. But anyway, so that's all up there, up there and available to listen to. I even stuck it
on the old instance feed for anyone who's still straggling over there. So check it out. Okay. Let's
take a break. When we come back, Tom will be here, hopefully. He's got an appointment this morning.
I hope to hear from him for too long. So maybe Randy sooner than later. I don't know.
Maybe. We'll find out. But that's all coming up next after Brian plays this song.
Yeah. Oh, this is great. Hey, remember the band The Editors. They're backed.
And they have a brand new single.
This is their first new music since 2019.
And it's the debut release in their current incarnation with Ivor Novello-winning composer and producer Benjamin John Power, also known as Blank Mass, who's joined the band as a full-time member.
Brand new song here, their first single in two years, three years, is called Heart Attack.
Let's listen to it now.
Oh, man, a heart attack.
I've got to be careful of those.
Oh, please do.
Yeah, I will.
Here we go. This is it. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.
dark my reason to exist
Wow
My baby don't want to be
Near anyone when shit gets tight
Love is on fire again
Burn a cause in my arm and fight
We were always meant for this
Shot through the dark my reason
my reason to exist
Why
No one will love you more than I do
I could promise you that
When you love breaks I'm inside him
Like a heart attack
No one will love you more than I do
I could promise you that
Promise you that
When you're the other love breaks I'm inside you
Like a heart attack
I wouldn't answer straight
Hold my words till they sound all right
Who listens to us anyway
My audience is you tonight
We were always meant for this
Shot through the dark my reason to exist
to exist wow
No one will love you more than I do you
I promise you that
When your love breaks I'm inside you
Like your heart attack
No one will love you more than I do
I could promise you that
When your love breaks are inside you
Like a heart attack
We were always meant for this
Shot through the dark by reason to exist
Why
No one will love you more than I do
I can promise you that
When your love breaks I'm inside you like a heart attack
No one will love you more than I do
I can promise you that
When your love breaks I'm inside you
Like your heart attack
You can wash your face with it.
It can make your face feel nice and fresh and clean and dry.
You can cleanse your face with it.
It can make your face feel nice and soft and smooth and greasy.
It is a new thing.
You wash your face with it.
It makes your face feel nice and fresh and clean and nice and soft and smooth.
America, you don't have to run out of milk.
I lost my daughter to the abyss.
But tonight, I'm calling her back.
This is the morning stream.
All right, we're back, everybody.
Welcome back to the program.
Hey, Brian, remind me who that was again, please.
Sure, that song was by the editors who are nice and clean and soft.
and frankly, and a brand new song called Heart Attack.
Go check him out the editors.
All right.
While that was playing, I made a very quick change to the website for people trying to get to
the Discord faster.
I realize it's like embedded link in lots of places, and it's, you know, not as simple
as just sending somewhere simple.
So I made a permanent link, which will always get you in there, won't expire.
FrogPants.com slash Discord, okay?
Oh, look at that.
Well, that seems easy.
It's super easy.
You just go there.
You click.
the thing, you're in. Okay? It's that simple. Okay. What the hell am I doing? I don't know. Oh, yeah. We're going to get Tom in here. I haven't heard from him. So I assume that's good news. He was going to text me if he was going to be late. Oh, okay. Good. I think we're good. I mean, you know. He could have seen blood and passed out or something. I don't know. Yeah, you go to the doctor. Who knows what they're going to give you. They're going to give you the old. No way. No way to know for sure. Blood. Blood.
Somebody revived Tom with some cottage cheese.
Smelling salts.
Oh, yeah, that's even better.
Even better.
With a cottage cheese.
That's a long story.
The concept and direction must come from...
We had a whole discussion earlier about whether cottage cheese is any good or not,
and I hate it.
I do not like cottage cheese.
And I'm curious where you land on it, Tom.
How do you feel that?
I've done an about face over the years.
As a youngster, I was very anti-cottage cheese, but I've grown to love it.
Yeah.
You mature.
What's your topping?
What's your preferred?
way to to top.
Just plain.
Oh, look at that.
Nothing.
Yeah.
Large curd.
Yes.
If possible.
Yeah.
Large curd is,
that was my wrestling name for about four years.
That's why I remember.
Scott Large Curd Johnson.
Yeah.
That was my part of your cheese.
I don't want to hear about Brian's porn move.
Well, hey, it's good to have you here, Tom.
I'm glad all went well and we were able to have you this morning.
It's time for us to talk about a little bit of tech.
As usual, Tom's always scouring the world for the big tech stories.
because we got Daily Tech News show coming up later this afternoon.
So what's burning a hole in your pocket?
Capital One?
Is that the right answer?
Netflix.
I don't think that's what they would like to think of them.
Netflix reported a lost 200,000 subscribers last quarter,
and go ahead and get your laughs out.
People are like, well, you raise your prices.
You're not wrong.
usually
Netflix is very chill
even if they have
kind of a down quarter
they'll say like
well the problem was this
and we don't think it was that
and we're going to keep doing what we're doing
and we're sort of doing
some real gentle stuff
about password sharing
wow this earnings call
I don't know that I would call
but they rolled out everything
to tell shareholders
here's what we're doing
because they had
expected in their filing, right? This isn't a like sitting around over coffee. Like in their
filing to shareholders, they had said they had expected to gain 2.51 million subscribers this
quarter and instead they lost 200,000. Wow. Wow. Now granted, they cut off service in Russia. So
there's 700,000 subscribers right there. But even then, they, if they had, if that had been the
only thing that they would have lost, you should have still had well above a million subscribers. They
lost 600,000 subscribers in the US. So you're hearing Netflix say things that they haven't said
before. They are doubling down on the competition. They've said that before. They're saying
that it's a more competitive market. They're acknowledging that price increases are having an
effect, although they've sort of acknowledged that before, too, and said, like, there'll be a
temporary effect and they'll shake out. Where they really focused their ire,
was on password sharing, which Reed Hastings in the past said,
eh, it's just something you've got to live with.
Now is saying we are, this is creating revenue headwinds.
We estimate a hundred million accounts are being shared and we are working super hard on it.
It doesn't sound like there, it does say, he is saying all the things about like,
you know, we need to balance this.
You know, we don't, we don't want to be too hard on people.
We want to convince them that it's the right thing to do.
So they're still being fairly gentle about that,
although you wouldn't know that by looking at Twitter.
Everybody reacts as if Netflix seized their account that day.
But the thing they're rolling out,
if you missed the story a few weeks ago,
is a test where if they can detect that your password sharing,
and their test seems pretty soft.
Like you have to have multiple different IP addresses,
multiple times with a regular pattern.
This isn't like you go on vacation
and you log in a couple of times.
If they detect that, then they'll put up
a thing that says, hey,
would you like to pay for a sub-account?
You get to keep your own history
and everything, but
you know, you're surfing free.
They have not said anything about cutting you off.
Now, that's not to say down the road they would,
but right now it's very much like,
hey, you should do the right thing
kind of approach.
So they say they're going to
they're going to expand that, and they're testing it and paying close attention to that.
The other one, though, that really got me was they have clearly said they're not at all
interested in an advertising-supported stream.
This seemed to shake that mentality, and they said, well, we're now looking at an ad-supported stream.
And from the way they phrased it, it sounds like it would be a cheaper version, not a free-with-ads
version, but a cheaper version, which is similar to what Hulu and Disney Plus and HBO Max do.
It feels like we just talked about this.
That would take a couple of years for them to roll out.
Oh, easily.
But it felt like the last time we talked about this, they were, they have always been, not, I don't know, the word isn't hardcore, but they've always been really stern on this point of, you know, we know what our numbers are.
We know what to do with this data.
We're not going to do an ad supported thing.
And they've shown no, you know, indication toward that.
It just seems like 200,000 lost users isn't, isn't enough to drive all this.
Like, I realize that's a chunk of stuff and it's going to affect stock prices and people's opinions are going to be all over the place.
But at the end of the day, it's a tiny fraction of your 232 million subscribers.
But it's the first loss of subscribers in more than a decade.
I guess that's a big deal.
I don't know.
Here's, I'm, and I'm curious about this.
I want to explore this with you on DTS later today.
If they hadn't terminated service in Russia, this would be a 500,000 subscriber gain.
Now, materially, that's just as bad, right?
They miss their number by $2 million.
But psychologically, that's still a gain.
And I wonder if the shareholder revolt, you know, the shareholder upset isn't a little less if it's like, well, it's still a gain, y'all.
Like, we still gained everywhere.
We just lost in the U.S., so we need to do some stuff in the U.S.
Instead of it's a loss, it's a loss in subscribers.
We have fewer subscribers than we did last quarter.
That's a harder one psychologically to get past.
Yeah, I guess so.
It's, I don't know, really bum me out to hear it because it's, well, I don't know why it bummed me out.
It shouldn't bum me out.
It's fine.
This is competition.
And also if their pricing changes had an effect on this, okay, well, then there's some market effects and whatever.
And everyone loves to hate on whoever the leader is.
So none of that was news to me.
But I will say this, I'll focus it down to the subscribers.
description thing. If they do offer
an ad supported version, let's say
it's five bucks a month. It's, it's on
par with others. HBO
does it. Everybody's got some kind of version of this.
Pecock goes. Yeah. I feel like that
is quickly becoming the standard
and they probably being forced into this because their entire
competition basically is doing this
aspect. So why wouldn't they?
I don't know why that's a problem for some people.
Like somebody in the chat says, you know the sure way to get me
to cancel is an ad supported way for Netflix.
I don't know why that would affect.
Yeah, I don't understand why you would cancel your existing non-ad-supported service
unless it was too expensive, in which case, then you'd cancel it anyway because it's too
expensive.
Like, if you're not getting ads in your service, just because they're putting ads in a different
service seems like an odd reason for you to quit.
Yeah, that's a very weird idea.
But I think that is the miscalculation that Netflix made is public sentiment.
I think they're absolutely right that the price.
price they're charging is pretty accurately calibrated to what people want to watch.
I think what they miscalculated was a few things, including public sentiment, about price changes.
In other words, if people weren't getting each other angry on social media about it, they might not have canceled.
But there's more of that getting fired up and like, yeah, I guess I am angry.
Because look at all these other people.
You know, two or three people is all it takes for you to see to feel like there's a crowd of us, even if it's not that many.
And then you get people like, you know what, that's it.
I am going to cancel and they cancel.
And then maybe some reality comes in where people realize, well, you know what, I am saving money and I am having to cut back.
And inflation is a worry for me.
So maybe I need to cut back anyway.
Plus, I can go to HBO Max.
I can go to Peacock.
I can go back and get Netflix when a show I want to watch is on and then binge it and
cancel. Makes me wonder if Netflix might change that way of doing things and dull things
out slowly rather than putting everything out at once. But they have miscalculated, which is
unusual. Netflix has got a very long track record of being able to accurately understand what
their consumer base is doing. Yeah, I think you've said it all. Basically, this comes down to
not reading the room in a weird way. And the room being, you know, a combination of things. Social
media is one of them but people are right now like this is just a really bad timing because people
right now are really upset about a lot of things that deal with inflation especially when you know
you hear about another company who had 39% profit increase that are now raising their prices or
whatever like some restaurant um this just feels like one more thing it's like great they're raising
their prices while everything else is growing up you know going up i'll tell you what i don't need
the witcher season two as bad as you think i do netflit like that attitude starts to sneak in and
And I kind of don't blame people for being a little irritated.
I get it.
Plus, the other offerings right now, solid as hell.
Cross the board.
And nobody's been raising prices on me in a significant way.
So I'm still getting pretty cheap access to a lot of stuff I like.
As far as I'm concerned, I spend way more time on HBO Max than I do on Netflix these days.
And I think they have to reckon with that.
It used to be that they were just King of the Hill and that's how it was, but I don't know anymore.
Like, Brian, are you, where do you spend most of years?
I also think they're a canary in the coal mine.
There was another story that we talked with Nate Lankson with on DT&S yesterday.
I also was on Charlotte Henry's podcast talking about it,
that streaming subscriber overall went down in the UK.
So it wasn't just Netflix.
In fact, Netflix was one of the ones that went down the least,
according to this estimate,
that people in the UK were just cutting streaming out in general because of price.
So I don't know that Netflix is actually unique.
I think you're going to see bad streaming numbers across the board
maybe not all decreases,
especially for some of the ones that are younger,
and so they're able to have more momentum in signing people up.
But you may see a bigger dip or slower growth from these other streamers
because I don't think this is Netflix specific.
In fact, I see everybody, as we always do, right?
We're always willing to jump in and go, yeah, I canceled because X.
I'm curious if people in your chat room
who didn't cancel Netflix would speak up
and say, well, I didn't cancel Netflix
and here's why. To me, that's more instructive.
I can guess why people who canceled canceled?
But why did you stay? I think that's really interesting.
Yeah, I mean, apart me, well,
so Brian, of all the screaming things
that you use the most, what do you think it is? Is it mostly HBO these days?
I think it's HBO Max is what I'm using most these days.
Surprisingly, Hulu is like rising more than it used to
and not just for like, oh, we missed that show last week, let's watch it now,
but just their originals, their movies, their, yeah, Hulu seems to be,
I think it's HBO Hulu in our house is probably the two most,
and then that's followed by.
Well, Tom, asking now they're delivering,
the chat room is piping up here about this as Brian's talking.
They're all saying they're too lazy.
Well, there's one person who admitted, like,
Like, I just haven't got around to it.
But most of them are like, well, I haven't found a compelling reason to cancel.
There's still some shows I watch.
And the thing is, you're not going to hear that on Twitter and Facebook and TikTok.
No one's going to make an angry TikTok video about how they have decided to stay with Netflix
because they don't find a reason not to.
Right.
Yeah.
So I was curious about that, whether there would be more people who are like, oh, I've been meaning.
to, I just haven't, or if it's like, it still works for me.
Yeah, it's fine.
I mean, I've got too many people using my passwords to cancel any of them.
You can't leave them all.
I don't want to just, I don't want to leave them all.
It's like 100 billion people just for you.
I'll admit, I have two kids that are using my things remotely for me and they're looking
at this $5 thing going, well, I guess the honeymoon's over, dad.
We're going to have to get our own.
I'm like, well, you let me know how that goes.
But until Netflix says anything, I guess I'm just going to let it be.
Yeah.
Not worry about it.
Well, all right.
Tom, this is.
always riveting stuff and there'll be more of it today on the Daily Tech News show. I'll be there.
It's Wednesday and I love being on Wednesdays. Is there anything else that either you're doing
or talking about that you want find people to know about? Well, as I mentioned, I was on Charlotte Henry's
podcast talking about all this streaming stuff. It was before the Netflix news came out. But you should
go and get her podcast, which I am racing to get the right URL for. But yeah, you should definitely
check out what's going on over at the what is it oh the addition oh there you go the addition
dot substack.com she's got a substack going on where she delivers her podcasts and newsletters and all kinds of
good stuff and in the latest podcast we talk about the UK streaming numbers if you want to find
out more about that and of course you can keep up with everything I do at free tom newsletter.com
that's right we're going to get you free one of these days go check it out everybody just need more
subscribers. Then I'll be free.
Hey, Tom, quit raising prices on your free
newsletter. It's killing us. I get Tom Merritt Plus.
I pay extra for that. Oh, yeah. Oh, I wanted
to note, too, that I will not be on the show
next Wednesday. Oh, you know what?
That's perfect timing, it turns out, because
neither will we.
You'll be on a show. You just don't know it.
I have a trip that I have to take
to meet some friends in Las Vegas.
Well, I'm
excited to see... Let me put it this way. I'm also
seeing a friend on Wednesday next week, and I'm
very excited to see him as well.
So we have shared, yeah, we have shared excitement.
Tom Merritt, everybody, Ace Detect on Twitter.
We'll see you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye now.
He'll only say reasonable things on Twitter.
Okay. That's right.
So there's that.
Yeah, he will be there Wednesday.
We're very excited about it.
Very briefly, sadly won't be live at the live TMS at the Artifice Bar, but there'll be other ways
that you'll get to enjoy them there at that show.
Yeah, Tom's, it's a quick in and out, as we like to say with Tom.
Very quick, in and out, you know.
Like eating around a blue ball.
All right, moving on.
We're going to do recommendals.
It's that time.
I'm having a little burpee here for some reason.
Let me get...
All right, grandpa, or me, ma'am.
Governor me, ma.
Governor me, ma.
All right, I got to add Randy back to the core group here.
Here we go.
Okay.
We're going to do recommendals.
It's going to be fun.
I can't freaking wait.
Here we go.
It's tough.
Time for Recommendals, where we recommend stuff from streaming services that the three of us have seen.
And maybe we think you might like them, too.
Welcome Randy back to the show.
Hi, Randy.
Oh, good morning, morning, stream.
I am doing great.
Thanks for asking.
Did anybody grow up in a state where your governor was called Governor Good Hair?
No.
No.
Oh, that was really common in Texas.
Good hair.
Yeah, like the whole idea was that the only reason that this tall man was elected governor is because he has good hair.
oh that's all he is he's just a good piece of hair walking in oh you're you know what i just did
a search and this is all over the place but i'd never heard of this this is a wow okay governor good
hair goes to washington progressive dot org there's the whole thing here where you can learn all about
all the all the governors who had good hair mine's name governor cox and he has no hair he's he's
he's governor no hair yeah bald as you could be his actual last name is cox oh yeah last
name's Cox. Spencer Cox. And you know what? Spencer Cox, pretty good guy. He's like,
it's hard to explain, but he does not, he'll probably only last a term because of this.
But he's a Republican governor. But he goes, he's not step line with like the current some GOP things.
Like, everybody feels like they got to be in line with whatever, whatever the GOP is these days.
And he kind of kicks against that. Does a lot of cool charity stuff.
You know, vetoed a bill that was basically an anti-trans bill in the end.
He vetoed it.
And he's a good guy.
And there were a bunch of other people around him going,
You can't veto that.
Penises a penis or whatever their problems are.
And he was like, nope, I'm cocks.
I got this.
I'm a hairless cocks.
Anyway.
One thing I wanted to mention,
I think it's very interesting that you guys were talking about streaming services
and didn't go, like, go hard in favor of Disney.
Disney, like, if you are a Star Wars and Marvel fan and you, for some reason, went on sabbatical two years ago, and you just came back, oh, my God, Disney Plus streaming.
Like, the Star Wars and Marvel content that has been distributed by them in the last two years.
Created and added from other locations.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, they've been busy.
Like, seriously, it's like 500 hours.
I think that's a conservative estimate.
It's 500 hours.
Kind of annoyed with myself, though,
because we only really use Disney Plus around here,
because I'm just behind on so many shows on there.
Loki is one of them.
That I just end up using it when Vans over to watch some Disney movie.
Sure.
If anything, I feel like I have done them wrong by not using them more,
but I just haven't.
And another thing is they have all of their recent stuff,
like all of their recent Disney programming.
And that's like, that's just amazing.
you know what I mean like there's as people age they tend to fall away from like watching the latest
Pixar film as it comes out right yeah yeah and but you know you got Disney plus it's very easy to
watch that stuff yeah yeah I still haven't watched turning red either I need to but uh that's like you know
it's all the stuff like oh en canto and Luca and Onward and all these great things that
I haven't seen a pixel a new Pixar movie since the the cool one in the van the the
Onward?
Onward.
I haven't seen Soul.
I haven't seen any of those.
Enkanto is great.
Yeah, I should watch all of this.
I thought you were going to watch Turning Red with your daughters.
I was.
We just haven't yet.
Carter and I have not seen it yet.
And I don't know why.
I don't know why.
We were like last Sunday.
We're watching tonight, right?
Yep.
And then the day one.
Your problem is you wait for your kids.
Don't, don't.
You know, once you do that once or twice,
once you watch something that they were anticipating watching with you,
do that once or twice,
they will never let it happen again.
they'll be like hey dad i'm making time tonight tonight's going to be the night we watch turning
red i'll be there no other plans no cancellation yeah it's a rare thing you're describing you know what's
also interesting is how we're talking about certain things uh repeatedly over and over like on the
netflix topic i feel like we talked about midnight mass way more than we needed to for way longer
than we needed to right like that was clearly a big hit and like um right now i feel like people have
been talking about severance.
Like, we're into, like, our eighth week of people talking about severance.
And it's like, oh, wow, yeah, good job, Apple Plus.
You really nailed it with that thing.
So, like, I feel like that's really where, you know, streaming services will just have a sudden resurgence.
Like, they'll just one show will hit Netflix and we'll all be happy with Netflix for a long time.
Yeah, whatever, it ebbs and flows.
I think all the other services probably love that they're getting heat right now because they're just like,
Yeah, come over here.
We've got stuff.
Check it out.
Hey, we're HBO.
We got a lot of nudity, you know.
Probably more than Netflix does.
So come on over.
All right.
Let's get to recommendals.
This is our recommendations for the week.
We're going to start with Brian, who's got a couple of these lined up.
What do you got here?
I do.
Yeah, as usual, I've got two.
And I've got, the first one is a movie.
And, boy, watching it, the acting seems a lot better than when you listen to it.
which is an interesting, you know, way to determine that.
However, this is still a fun.
Actually, it's still an interesting watch.
Maybe not fun, but a compelling watch.
All right, here we go.
Good morning, girls.
Good morning, Mr. Rekyll.
I have good news.
As of today, you have completed Level 15.
And now you will all be moved.
moving up to level 16.
Level 16 will be your final year at Vestalus.
You will soon be meeting your new families.
So remember your lessons, embrace the feminine virtues
that we have taught you, and eyes down!
Jeez!
Now, I will give you your new hall assignments,
beginning with Rose Hall.
Zach EZee.
The following girls will now
move up to Rose Hall.
Rita,
Ava,
Vivian.
I have no idea of what this is.
I know.
So this was something that
Tristan recommended to me
and Tina and we said, all right, yeah,
we'll check it out.
This is a, and she said
it actually said the name a couple times in there.
It's called Level 16. This is on Netflix.
And it is a
dystopian future kind of
Probably along the line, somewhere if you drew a line from Handmaid's Tale to an episode of Black Mirror,
you'd pass right through Level 16 town, basically, is what it is.
It is, it probably could, like, it's an hour and, like a little over an hour and a half.
It probably could have been shrunk down to a one-hour Black Mirror episode, but it's about
a school, a group of girls who are in a school that feels also like a prison.
they're being, it's almost like an orphanage
where they're being trained on how to become
perfect young women for families that are going to adopt them.
And it's creepy.
It is very gray.
And of course, there's a twist.
There's a lot of the island comparisons.
Like in Wikipedia, it talks about how there's a big comparison
to the movie The Island with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson.
no director or stars of note this is you're going into something that um also the platform also
kind of a interesting comparison right i haven't seen the platform yet but when this movie ends
the first thing it recommended to me was hey you like this you should watch the platform
and i want to know that the writer director is danishka estherhazi and she is up and coming she's
actually quite quite older than you would usually think of for up and coming but um you know
she came out of
Manitoba and
it was been a long road for her to start
you know like getting premier work
as a writer-director but like
if you look at her list
she's making she's making TV series
and made for streaming services movies
and I think you're going to see her
move into some more like premiere film soon
oh interesting okay that's cool cool
yeah because the banana splits movie is one of her credits
and I can't imagine that this is
compares it all to the banana splits movie.
Yeah. It's good.
Like I said, it's compelling and there's a nice payoff.
A little bit of stuff is predictable.
It's like Hunger Games kind of predictability where it's like, oh, I kind of know
who's going to do well and who's going to do poorly and this sort of thing.
But it's got an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, 61% audience score.
It's one of those bigger gaps, but it's interesting.
And it's like, it's, I, I've not looked at it.
I mean, it's been advertised to me on Netflix over and over and over.
And the only impression I got was that it was an all-woman cast, an all-female cast.
Pretty much.
Yeah, this would not work well for your Friday night at Ibbets or Saturday night at Ibit's house joke on a film sack.
But that's like, that's something that we, you know, we don't see very often.
And I think, I think a lot of times audience scores are like they just like are people who looked at it for five minutes and we're like,
I don't see enough dudes shooting guns, you know?
Right, right.
Yeah, there's certainly, well, I won't say.
There might be a little bit of that.
Oh, a little gun play, you say.
Maybe a little gun play, maybe, I don't know.
Okay.
So, level 16.
Netflix, get it now.
Get it before you cancel your account.
Yeah, get it quick.
Before Netflix takes away your parents' streaming password.
There you go.
All right.
Your next one here.
What do you got here?
Second one is a mini-series.
All right, here we go.
If you think that people want a patch to diagnose them and then put medicine directly into their skin,
then you've never met a sick person before.
People go to school for a very long time to understand how to diagnose patients.
You can't get a diagnosis from a patch because human beings aren't machines.
But doctors make mistakes, and this would be based on data.
Well, data isn't everything.
people your age need to remember that machines make mistakes too
especially when humans are operating them
it's fine it's nothing personal
you had an idea it's not going to work
so you just you keep learning
keep trying oh a hater
okay Amanda Safrein you've got to go lower
and you have to
hang on there's more there's more hang on there's more there's more
do not let the pay off
there is no try
what
that's Yoda
From Star Wars.
I hate the other woman.
That is Luribetkaff, yeah.
And that is Amanda Safeway.
I actually love her, I should say, but I hate that character.
Gosh, dang it.
The character is like, oh, okay, well, that was really nice.
Now move along.
Bye-bye kind of thing.
Yeah, and that is Amanda Sefrid.
I saw, it's not Seifred or Seifred, as I've been pronouncing it my whole life or her whole life, probably.
but it's like Sephard or something like that.
Anyway, she is portraying Elizabeth Holmes,
and this is the movie or the series
The Dropout all about the Theranos scandal,
the biotech company that made a whole bunch of promises
and did not fulfill them.
For this, like, you remember me playing the Julia Garner
with a gentleman accent
that she had to talk in for an entire miniseries.
Oh, yeah.
You get a similar kind of thing with Elizabeth Holmes, who apparently talked like this.
Like, we had to go and watch a lot of Elizabeth Holmes interviews.
And it's like, oh, yeah, okay.
Yeah, Amanda really kind of nailed that.
I don't think she, I don't think she nailed it at all.
Like, I feel like she had to go lower.
You mentioned that you think.
Yeah, the problem is that there's so much Elizabeth Holmes out there.
Like, you can hear the actual Elizabeth Holmes.
She did all the media she could possibly do for a decade, right?
And so, like, the, if you're going to impersonate her, I don't even think you should try to impersonate her.
I think they should make an, uh, Elizabeth Holmes soundboard and then use that and, and have Amanda Seyfried on the screen, but you're actually hearing Elizabeth Holmes actual voice.
Because like, because you know what I'm saying? Like, it is, it is the whole, it's the reason we're so interested in this, by the way. I, and I, and I think that's wild. It is absolutely crazy that everyone is.
really, really caught up on this one white-collar criminal because of her stupid fake voice.
Without it, there's no way we care.
Here, Andy.
Here, Randy.
This is my recommendation.
I know.
I'm just kidding.
That was awesome.
So, yeah, the, but on that, on that note, you're not wrong.
And as we were watching, we would have said, you know, if Mirosorvino, like Mirosorvino back in the day, would have,
been perfect casting for this because she's got that much lower register. She's even got the look
like Elizabeth Holmes. Amanda Seifred has, you know, a much more like Anne Hathaway,
big features kind of look, whereas Elizabeth Holmes is a little bit more plain but dolled up
with makeup kind of look. So anyway. I guess I've never heard Amanda Seafreed, you know what? I have
a video. Let's see how you actually say it. I'm going to play this
real quick. Oh, yeah. Hold on. Here we go.
This will be fun. I don't know why there's music. It's really dumb.
Okay. There's Jimmy Kimmel interview. If you find that or Jimmy
Fallon. Oh, does she say it herself?
She, he says it. He says, oh, welcome to the show. And it's like the first second of it.
If you find, uh, this one I found is terrible. Let me see if this is, oh, here we're
a man, duh. Cy, Fred.
Is it Cy Fred?
siphred, yeah, that's it.
I don't like how that guy did that at all.
I really don't.
Uh, man, duh.
F that guy.
That sucked.
YouTube, do better.
All right.
Let's get to my...
Hold on.
A couple more things about this.
Huge cast of characters.
You get Michael Ironside, almost an unrecognizable Michael Ironside as one of her backers.
You get William Macy as...
as kind of a, not a competitor, but a patent troll that her, a family friend, Patentrol.
Mary Lynn Raskub, who we haven't seen in forever, Bill Irwin.
And then her partner in crime is Neveen Andrews that a lot of people will remember as Said from Lost.
Oh, I like him.
He's cool.
Yeah.
Michaela Watkins, Ann Archer, Kurt Ward Smith.
Oh, Kurtwin Smith.
Are you kidding?
I'm not kidding.
Yeah, I love him.
He's a net 70 show and then Robocop.
He's great.
Yeah, he's in this too quite a bit.
And anyway, so there you go.
It is the dropout and it is currently streaming or will probably forever be streaming on Hulu.
I didn't expect to be so excited about Kurtwood-Smith.
Randy, you're still there?
You're right?
Yeah, yeah.
You got quiet.
I was like, oh, he's typing up a nasty email to me, isn't he right now?
No, not at all.
Yeah, he's good.
I feel like the Theranos story got so overexposed.
It was like the Fire Island thing a couple years ago, right?
Oh, yeah.
just like there's a I so like I didn't I didn't watch this I didn't even consider watching it until you started talking about it just now like it's you know so you had that perspective this was for me I knew a little bit about their nose I know that they you know conned a bunch of people out of their money and I knew Elizabeth Holmes was behind that but boy I learned like I knew 5% of the story going into watch the dropout and um and it it was amazing I probably need 2% if there if there's a
percentage I knew. It was 2%. It was her face, and it was the case existed. I've never even
heard her talk. I don't know. Anything else about the deal. So, cool. Yeah, then you'd probably
really get a kick of this. Lennonade asked, I wonder which medical Hulu show is better. This or
dopesick? We saw both of them. I really, really like dopesick. I thought that was brilliant.
And Michael, Keaton was incredible in that. So I would probably, I'd put that one above this one,
but only barely. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's high praise.
And it's, like, just to note, it's been over three years since the inventor came out, the documentary about Elizabeth Holmes.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that existed either.
That's the ABC documentary that this is based on, right?
Oh.
It was an HBO documentary, the inventor?
Oh, that's different.
Okay, there was an ABC news documentary about Theranos as well that, um, well, clearly I've been in the dark on this Theranos business.
I didn't know any of this.
Yeah.
You'll be fascinated by this.
This is like how to con an industry out of a lot of money, 101.
Okay.
And, you know, I hate to, like, jump on a recommendation on a recommendation, but I'll, actually,
I'll bet you that Nicole recommended the inventor three years ago.
She probably did.
It's an Alex Gibney documentary.
Love Gibney documentaries.
His stuff's awesome.
It's real good.
It's like, this is the person who made Going Clear and the smartest guys in the room
and so on.
and he's great it's just uh it does not paint elizabeth holmes in a good light at all it is
i imagine not oh and kate mckinan was originally cast to play elizabeth holmes that's that would
have been some good i think some better casting sadly but oh interesting yeah he's um alix gibney
the first thing i ever saw was that nron one uh the one you said smartest guys in the room
that's an amazing documentary but if you really want to see something interesting from that dude watch
Hold on. Where is it? Oh, I forgot the name of it. Anyway, he's amazing. That guy's great. All his documentaries are insane. A couple that come to mind for me are his Rolling Stone documentary. It's called Stories from the Edge. That's really good. That's pretty cool. Really, really good. And his Steve Jobs documentary is pretty good.
The Man in the Machine one. Is that that one? Yeah. Yeah. Also very good. Did he also do King of Kong? That's what Coates from Home is saying.
Oh, really? That's a Gibney deal? I had no idea. I don't know. No wonder that's such a good documentary. Alex Gibney's a hell of a documentarian. He's really, really good. Oh, Taxi to the Dark Side is one I'm thinking of. That's a really good movie.
That Seth Gordon was King of Kong. Yeah. If you see Taxi to the Dark Side, we're talking like, um, like interrogation stuff in Afghanistan that you just have never heard before. It's just, man. It's really good. Anyway, uh, here's mine. I'm going to play a,
clip. This is a documentary, funny enough. And it's on HBO Max, and I adored it. And I finished it
last night, and I loved it. Here it is. It was always a big deal that my mom was 43 when she had me.
People would say, oh, she's much older, you know, and there are lots of risks involved.
Tony and I are 20 years apart. I was a junior in college when my mom told me she was pregnant.
I was a senior in high school. All of
Tony's siblings, including me, were older.
I'm 12 and a half years older than Tony, so when he was young, especially, our relationship
was almost as much paternal as fraternal.
Okay.
I did it.
It was a very vague scene, so it doesn't give too much away here.
But this is the Tony Hawk Until the Wheels Fall Off documentary that is on HBO Max right now.
It's a single film about two hours long.
and it's freaking great.
It is not, I thought it was just going to be, you know, these are, you take any
sports star, really, and you make a documentary about them and they're usually just this
shining, you know, put them on a pedestal, talk about all their great stuff they did.
And there's some of that, of course, because we're talking about Tony Hawk and some of these
other amazing skaters from that era.
But it's a much more personal story and a much more personal story about what drives people
at the top of their game.
He's fascinating, Tony Hawk is,
but even more fascinating are some of the people around him,
some of the other skaters that he worked around and with.
For example, let's see, what's his name?
I don't want to, I mentioned this morning on Twitter,
so now I forgot.
Oh, Rodney Mullen in particular,
someone known for incredible street skating,
and he was a contemporary of Tony Hawks back in the day,
who, by the way, is 53 now,
but you'd never know it. Tony Hawk's still doing 720s and just, you know,
he skates four or five times a week and he's still just an insane freak.
And I've known you for a long time, Scott.
And I've gotten the impression that you really like it when a documentary is about a person
who is overall a good guy and is plain spoken.
Yeah, I do like that, especially somebody who's found some measure of success
because I think it's fascinating to see what success does to people for good or for ill.
and this is a story about an imperfect guy who is a nice guy kind of at his core.
He has always been a nice dude, but he had a real rough period.
And it was all, I mean, he said it himself in the documentary.
He goes, fame is the worst drug, he said.
It's the worst drug that anyone could ever take.
And I hate it.
And I don't recommend fame for anyone.
And it goes pretty deep.
I don't want to spoil too much of it.
But it's fantastic.
I mean, there are moments that are like legit moving.
Most of it has to do with him trying to nail the 900, which he was the first one to do in the history of skateboarding.
And he did it live in front of a crowd after about 30 tries in front of them.
He's got way more bone breaks and concussions than you can count.
Every skater that's still alive today has horrible whiplash because their sport of choice.
Their lifestyle means constant whiplash.
Every time you fall, you give yourself some form of whiplash and it adds up.
so they're just a mess you know by the time they're in their 40s and 50s but it's they're so
dedicated to it and I'm telling you Rodney Mullen could read me a book every night and I
would sleep to it there's something about that dude he is like a Zen god amazing anyway
highly recommend it there is a in particular a story about Tony Hawk and a guy who was his
rival since they were 10 and real hatred between mostly between
the other guy and Tony, Tony, not so much toward him.
And how that relationship finds resolution.
It's one of the most touching things I've ever freaking heard.
I imagine you're like me and that there's going to be a documentary someday about Sean
White and you're going to love it.
Probably, yeah.
It seems like it probably will happen.
And then this was just a really good look, you know, how his career went.
I mean, he was dead broke in the early 90s because skateboarding has a cyclical kind of
very popular drop, very popular drop.
Happens all the time.
And I don't even know what loop we're in right now, but he, for a while there, he was
like working in some crappy place.
His wife was trying to make ends meet by being a nail stylist.
There was nothing going on after all these wins.
And then it took off again.
And then he got that video game deal.
And he had no idea that game deal was going to end up being what it was.
It made him a multi-millionaire.
Before that, he was just sort of a millionaire.
And you can sell me on this by telling me that this documentary has
anything from the jackass guys anything give me not a thing not one moment of jackassery i was
surprised by that and even the video game reference was very small and only just to reference that this
was a time in his life where things were just going non-stop money money money too much fame too much
whatever like that that era is described in a much more broad sense so even the video game things
not even focused on so it is really it does stay very true to like the man the people around him
their stories are just as interesting to me
like some of these other skaters I was just
blown away by this stuff I I freaking love
how you know Johnny Knoxville and Stevo
and Bamarger and Chris Pontchus and Jason Akuna
and Ryan Dunn all came together
and Tony Hawk was like in the mix
he wasn't one of those six people right no no but he was
like on the out they all knew him and they were all
constantly trying to get him into their stuff
he ended up in jackass episodes and you know he was
all the movies
like he's in the late he makes an appearance in the latest movie yeah that doesn't surprise me i mean
basically he he's connected tissue to all of those things but what this story really focuses on is
i think really it's a study and what puts somebody like him where he is versus anyone else who
just like skating or who thinks they're good or even has the raw talent but what's the one
ingredient that takes them further and they're not willing to just say well he had the guts to keep
it's not simple in fact they have a hard time express expressing it and they have a
whole sequence where, especially Rodney Mullen, tries to express it and says, my biggest frustration
in life is that I can't properly express this to people who don't understand. It's like really
interesting. Anyway, I loved it. I hope this thing wins awards. It's so good. And you all should
watch it. It's called Tony Hawk until the wheels fall off. Yes. Is there another like sports or
reality documentary that you would compare it to that did win awards? The Michael Jordan.
Bill's one.
What was that called?
That was a series, but I can't remember the name of it.
The Big Night or Big Show?
No, whatever it is.
Is it anything like free solo?
Is that a good comparison?
No.
Well, I don't know.
I don't remember that one.
Right.
It's one where there's two kinds of sports documentaries.
One's that treat them like gods and ones that just treat them like people who are
incredibly talented and then look at all the aspects of what that is.
This is the latter.
And I appreciate those.
There's a reality to it.
There's, you know, Tony Hawk's not perfect and not by any stretch.
He may not be the greatest skater ever.
Just like Jordan, I don't know.
This is controversial to say.
No, no.
I agree with you.
I agree with what you're about saying.
Jordan may not be the greatest player of all time.
Oh, the last dance.
That's it.
He may not be the greatest player of all time, but it kind of doesn't matter.
It's more than just the skating.
It's more than just the basketball for Jordan.
It's there's something more to these guys.
And so they explore that.
It's fascinating.
and I couldn't recommend it more.
Absolutely loved it.
One of my favorites I've seen this year.
So again, HBO Max, it's an HBO Max original, Tony Hawk,
the wheels, until the wheels fall off as the subtitle.
And I can't see how you'd be disappointed.
It's really, really, even if you don't like skating and stuff.
Like, if you're not like skateboard culture, whatever, man,
I don't think that matters.
That's not the point.
Yeah, that'll be a good bellwether for that because I know of skateboarding.
I know of Tony Hawk, but this would be a good test for me.
And you also know it's good because HBO pushed it real hard the instant they released it.
Like it was on your for you, HBO for you page, whatever that's called.
Like from the get go and it stayed there.
They really want you to watch it, Brian, but so I think.
It deserves to be.
What's also cool is the director is a childhood association of his that was there kind of the whole time when they were making old VHS videos and then, you know, making the zines and the eZines and just every.
kind of step of the way he had this filmmaker friend that was always filming stuff and it's this
guy who who did the directing when i first heard that i thought well that's going to be biased and weird
and not you know it's not at all it's just really on on the nose and honest and and heartfelt and
great just fan freakantastic parent issues those are always fun uh you know all that stuff so
check it out uh available now all right randy i'm going to play your clip anything to set up here
Okay, so this is also a documentary, and it's got a lot of music.
This is a highly scored documentary.
So I just kind of grabbed a random spot.
I seriously, I went to a random episode of this had grabbed a random clip where there was some talking.
So just like making sure you know, everybody's going to recognize what this is.
This is really good.
Here we go.
As dusk falls over the park, we are reminded of our place in the place.
in the universe.
By carefully managing light pollution, the celestial views above the reserves have remained
some of the darkest on Earth.
On a clear night, you can see the planets of the solar system, the stars of the Milky Way, and
the distant glow of our closest neighboring galaxies.
Even with the naked eye.
And under the cover of darkness,
one nocturnal forest resident is helping his home to regenerate.
It sounds like some sort of president.
natural nature documentary.
It is.
And I actually should have,
I should have picked the next minute
because he was just about to say,
he was just about to introduce you to a creature
that you've never heard of and never seen.
And the reason you've never heard of it and never seen it
is because they had to invent new camera tech
to capture this nocturnal creature.
And they did and it's in here.
And it's just fantastic.
This is our great national parks by higher ground.
um as you know higher ground is uh you know a very new production company they are you know this
is probably i feel like this is their first big hit like their first big premiere thing do they do
every park or is it just like did they do the big hits like what's the deal there so it's actually
um no yes and no like yes they do they do mention and look at every like truly big national
park in the world like they jump around from country to country but this is um this is a lot more
for me about kind of taking over for attenborough for david attenborough like david attenborough
is now 95 years old and uh i don't think we're going to be good though i love him with the hair
we see the female doing the thing yeah i love that and and we'll always have we'll always have that
that stuff right and like going back like there has been uh there have been a lot of uh times where
we're seeing remasters of like the mutual of omaha stuff or whatever right but it's you know
like time moves on uh planet earth is not as groundbreaking as it was 15 years ago right and uh there's
more ground to break and these guys are doing it this this is you know a a nature documentary is
about is really about a massive team of people going all over the world for years getting
awesome footage right and that's what's that's what undergirds are great national parks and
highly recommend it oh interesting so they've got like stuff in indonesia and in africa and in
let's see uh other places so it's not just u.s national parks national parks yeah it sounds
like it's like all over the place that's right so the message of this show is
is we need every country in the world to set aside as much as they can and call it a national
park and protect it. That's the message of the show. And that's, again, something Attenborough's been
saying for decades, right? Oh, yeah. Attenborough's, that's his whole thing. This is not a new message,
but in order to deliver the message, you got to show me a lot of stuff that I, you know, I find really
beautiful and they deliver. Yeah. Another, so I would say a good companion piece to this might be that
that bill or um uh i can't think his name all the sudden dear martha why can't i think of the guy's
name director makes some documentary films oh ken burns the benjamin franklin thing right yeah no it's
it's it's not franklin it's well i think it's just called national parks or something anyway oh it was
a national national park one i didn't know i think it's done one as well it's focused almost
entirely on national parks but also like teddy roosevelt's role in getting that kicked off and
and how it all, you know, which ones were named after, whatever they were named after and
like the trouble getting the things built or done or protected or whatever. That's a really good
companion piece of this, probably, I would imagine. Possibly, I feel like that is really about history
and Burns as a historian, like his whole deal is coming up with a new way to teach you something
about what happened 50 years ago or 100 years ago. Right. This is about the here and now.
It's about using the best latest technology to go into Patagonia, which is what you just heard, or go into Namibia or Japan, and show you know, and show you like this is what a national park is right now.
And it's great.
It's important, right?
Yeah.
And like he starts off the whole thing in Hannaama Bay on Oahu.
And it's just so beautiful.
It's freaking beautiful.
And I know, I know documentaries like this are beautiful, but you should watch it.
Yeah.
Well, I'm, I'm in.
It seems like good stuff.
I like nature documentaries.
It's almost, if there's, I don't have ASMR stuff where something will make my head tangle or whatever.
But I think these come close, right?
Just sitting, chilling, seeing these beautiful 4K vistas and animals I've never heard of and places I haven't paid attention to.
It's something about that.
It gets me gone.
I actually, I think I have the opposite.
I get repulsed when I'm scrolling through TikTok and I come across an ASMR woman and she's like clicking a
Oh no, no, the same sounds. Same. I hate it. I actually, like, I will hold down on that video and select I'm not interested in this content.
Yeah, I don't, I don't get it either. I don't understand it. I understand that, you know, different things work for different people, but these people that are smacking their lips in a microphone or eating or whatever, what the hell, man. I can't do it.
The very first time I came across one and they were doing this.
thing with their fingers right on the mic i was just like are you okay how's that making a stroke
brian can you can this help you feel better how you feeling over there no no stop it oh
like nails on chalkboard uh i don't like any of it all right well asmr for one is someone else's
nightmare um yeah well your asmr is my misophonia there you go so where's this streaming i
forgot where you said streaming on netflix baby look at all these netflix things today we got lots
Netflix is by all this stories.
I think Higher Ground has a Netflix deal.
I'm not 100% on that,
but I think that's where all of the higher ground work is going or has been for the last three years
and is probably going for a long time.
So that's something.
Yeah, they make a,
they struck a deal and they'll keep bringing content.
That'll be cool.
And I just wish they were able to pump out more faster.
Like I don't want to.
I'm excited about.
higher ground like i you know i'm gonna admit you know that's uh i know there's a lot of americans
especially who are like boo you know no you shouldn't make a media company and and and you know
promote your opinions boo i guarantee this trigger somebody but um whatever the other
whoever you this team sports stuff can all take a big shit for all i care i don't i don't
care. Like, there's plenty of opportunities for whoever you perceive as your voice to make their
own media companies and do their own things. But whatever. Who cares? Open market. Everybody
make all their shit. Who cares? Whatever. And you don't have to, you don't have to watch it when
it's like about like the first documentary they put out, I think was Becoming, which is the Michelle
Obama story, right? And I don't think you don't have to watch that. Like, it was perfectly good. But like,
no one's making you. I'm saying this, this natural world, it's an, it's actually, I'm saying
it's important. Our great national parks is important. Yeah, I'd like to visit them and not have
them be garbage. And then while I'm, while I'm there, take nice care of what, you know, I don't want to
throw dirt on the, or dirt, I don't want to throw trash on the ground. I don't want to, you know,
pee in the place I'm not supposed to, those sorts of things. Keep it in mind, everybody. All right,
there you have it. Brandy will tweet these things later. Randy Deluxe.
is where you'll look for that.
You also see it in our Discord and everywhere else, Facebook, all that business.
Randy, thanks, man.
I know you're busy because you had a crazy couple days here with all the stuff going on to work,
but we're glad that you could hang out with us today so much.
I am too, and I will see you in a couple weeks.
Yeah, I'll see it.
Well, I'll see you in three days.
See you in three days.
See it in three days.
See in three days.
And then for a couple of weeks.
No, for a week.
What are we doing this week?
We're going to watch a movie that no one has ever seen called Willie's Wonderland.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, right.
Yes.
That's right.
Yeah, we're going to get our Nick Cage on, man.
I'm excited.
It's going to be great.
I'm actually looking forward to it, and I don't know why, because I don't think it's going to be good.
No, no, no, no.
But I am looking forward to this one for whatever reason.
It's Randy Jordan, aka Randy the Lux.
Have a good day.
Bye.
Okay.
It didn't have time.
He didn't have time to do his thing.
Didn't have time to do it.
Take that, Mr.
Okay.
Despite the tech issues, thank you all for your patience.
People at home are like, what tech issues?
No, trust me, we had a better problem there.
We hit them from you.
We sure did.
All right, tomorrow, big day, we got all the usual Thursday shenanigans, as well as
ANTP current season interviews.
Now, if you're coming live, you'll hear those.
Yes.
If you are listening to the podcast.
Unless you don't want to be spoiled as to who's still in the competition, because
this will spoil you as to who's left.
So if that's something you want to avoid.
they'll be at the end of the show so you can stop listening at that point.
Yes.
And we're going to do it.
We're going to pause it for YouTube and also for the podcast listeners.
So you guys are not under any, you know, you're not going to get spoiled.
All right.
But the rest of you come, if you come here live and you don't care, great.
If you watch the Vod on Twitch, you'll get spoiled there too.
Can't pause that.
Can't do it.
But one way of the other.
Oh, yeah, question is, do we still have Wendy tomorrow?
Do we have Wendy tomorrow?
I think we have Wendy tomorrow.
I'll have to find out if it, we're doing two or three tomorrow?
Two tomorrow, three Friday.
Three Friday.
We might still.
But we could probably swap it.
If there's no Wendy, then we could swap it.
Let's see what happens.
I'll talk to Wendy.
I don't know.
I'll see what she wants to do.
Anyway, we'll make it work.
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let's get out of here. Brian, let's play a song to do so.
Okay, how about this one?
Speaking of A&P, one of our contestants, Sean Allred, wrote in and said,
Hello, Scott and Brian.
This is Sean Allred, one of the three Shons, Sean Castor on Discord.
On April 16th, I'll be turning 40.
I know those a few days ago.
Just getting to this one.
Brian, you've been so great in the past, finding fun covers for me.
I trust you, as always, with this daunting task.
Love the show, though, Sean A.
Whoops, I'm sorry, I meant to play this.
I'm called now, Sean.
Dirst day.
Happy Dirst day.
This is, you want some, I get some scah for you.
This is a recent discovery of mine, thanks to my friend Scott Garinger, a band called the
Melbourne Scott Orchestra.
These guys are amazing, and I devoured all of their content and picked through and found
covers, but I got everything because it's just so good.
Their biggest hit happens to be this one right here.
They put it on their self-titled debut from 2013.
Speaking of TV theme songs, it's a great one.
Here's their cover of Get Smart.
Who's in the room?
Who's in the room?
Are you ready to get smart?
Yeah.
Are you ready to get smart?
Yeah.
All right.
There we go.
Pick it up now.
Take it up now.
Take it up now.
Here.
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