The Morning Stream - TMS 2295: Distracting Extraction
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Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It is Wednesday, May 25th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Scott. And hello, Tadpool and all the ships at sea. Yeah, we hope you're all doing well. Today, our job is clear and present. Our job is to distract you and have some fun here today. So we're not going to be one of those shows where everybody feels like they have to go deep and address the hideousness that was yesterday.
um instead uh you know we'll of course that needs to be dealt with obviously but we are going to try
our best to just be a fun place for you to be today you know exactly exactly park your brains have
some fun with friends you know we're all in this together and we're all pals here so so welcome
sit back relax enjoy yourselves and and uh take your mind off the day's woes for just a little bit
if you can sure yeah there we go it's a good way to it's a good way to go here's the
Speaking of going, you know, I went to the dentist yesterday, and that's why there was no show, okay?
We made this clear ahead of time that we would have no show on Tuesday because I had oral surgery, which is a fancy way of saying, take my tooth out.
Right.
Extraction.
Extraction, exactly.
Not the cool one with Thor on the Netflix channel there, not that extraction.
Not that one, no.
Which I really enjoyed it.
I don't know if I've mentioned how much.
For some reason, I was thinking, isn't that the one with Natalie Portman, but it's one?
with the, what is that one called?
That was like, oh, yeah, she had her own thing.
Didn't she have something similar to extraction, but it was, wasn't it called extraction.
You're thinking of her sci-fi movie.
Annihilation, thank you.
Yes, annihilation.
That movie's awesome.
It's really good, yeah.
Oh, I love Annihilation.
Let's start doing better at naming movies, though, so that they're memorable.
Yeah, let's have some memorable names.
It just doesn't help anybody.
I want to see that dude's new movie because it's got that, uh, that girl.
from season four of Fargo in it.
She's really interesting.
She's Irish.
I can't think of her name.
But anyway,
back to the point.
I'm supposed to go to the dentist.
All right.
It was going to happen
at the crack of eight.
They were supposed to have me there
for a couple of hours
and, you know,
I was going to kill TMS.
So whatever, we knew this.
Right, right.
I've been dreading it,
didn't really want to go.
And I got in there
and things went differently
than we expected.
Here's what happened.
Okay.
I sit down with my dentist.
is my normal dentist guy I've known for 20 years,
Dr. Matthews, great guy.
He's a normal dentist guy.
Normal dentist guy, right, exactly.
If there's ever a dentist who's a guy in normal,
there's your guy.
Anyway, what's interesting about him, though,
is usually when I see him, he's super tan
and in like ripped shape.
Really? Okay.
So, but when I saw him this time,
he looked like a normal guy.
I don't know what happened there.
Anyway, maybe the pandemic.
happened there. I don't know what happened.
Anyway, so we get there, and I haven't seen him in a little bit because he's also got,
now got like an office with like two or three other sort of sub-dentists working there as well now.
Things have grown quite well for him.
And the guy who gave me the diagnosis last time I was in there that, yeah, you got to have
this cavity fix, this old, this silver filling from high school has got to come out.
And then also we're going to extract that tooth.
Or basically gave me an option.
You want to crown it or extract it, and I had to make a choice.
The choice was extraction for a bunch of reasons.
but anyway, so I get in there, and it's not the guy who diagnosed it, it's my regular
Dr. Matthews.
And he looks at my mouth for a minute and he goes, hmm, and he pulls up my stuff, my x-rays
and junk for the last time.
And he's like zooming in, looking real close and going, yeah, I don't think we're taking
that tooth.
I said, Wayne, that's the whole reason I'm here today.
What are we?
Right.
Yeah.
He goes, yeah, I don't think, I mean, if you told me you wanted to do this today and absolutely
were determined, I would say, okay, fine, we'll do what you want to do.
do but it doesn't really need to go and I said well he didn't he say it had like a cavity or
something he says well here's the problem you get like a chip in it that could lead to one
with a bunch of activity but activity means that it would be biting on the whatever's below
because this is an old wisdom tooth that has no tooth below it doesn't touch anything it just sort
of is there it hangs out okay it doesn't chew it doesn't doesn't take part in the work of chewing
it's a non it's an NPC a non yes it's a non playable tooth exactly yeah exactly
It's a prop in my head that just does nothing.
And he says, see, he says, here's the problem.
Taking it out is no big deal.
It doesn't really change things.
But if you ever had a problem with the tooth next to it,
it would be nice if we had an anchor point somewhere for an inlay,
because inlays are better than other options.
So I'd rather be able to just have something there to connect it to if we ever got there.
And it says right now that tooth's fine and 100% good.
But I'm just future proof in here.
And he goes, I've been doing this long enough where I've seen.
situations like this where we extract a tooth and then later go ah crap we should have left
that bone there because now we can take care of this thing next to it easier or less painfully
or less invasively or whatever and he said yeah there's just really no reason to be taking that out
and i said well i'm not going to say no but it's a little weird you guys like are switching gears
here i mean i've been dreading this for a month i'll be one thing and then right yeah yeah so i's a little bit
you know weirded out that way and he goes no i understand it's just
you know and and and he's you know
basically he said that the other dentist is newer and wouldn't have thought of this
without saying that he he was like well no doctor so-and-so was correct in his
assumption about the but uh but he's you know he just hasn't seen a couple of the cases
i've seen where this were and i'm like fine dude leave it great let's let's leave it so
he focused entirely on this lower old high school filling that went poopy put a new one in
it uh that's it's all good
So all my worries about yesterday being like all gnarly and having a giant thing taken out for not.
Or put to rest.
Yeah, it's for not.
I freaked out for nothing, you know?
Man, it just feels like, doesn't it feel like, oh, maybe there's another shoe that's going to drop at some point?
Yes.
You know, we kind of made a mistake when we said we shouldn't have taken this one out.
Brian and I have a lot of things in common.
One of them is dentistry, we hate it.
We don't like it.
100% like yeah we don't like going we don't like talking to those people we don't like having
the work done we don't like pain for it we don't like anything about this process dentistry can
go pound sand it's important we all need it i get it but freaking eff it right we don't like it
yeah yeah exactly so so yeah i'm with you it does feel like just i could just 3d print in my
mouth right now i don't you feel like there's a future there's a future at some point where you're doing
that don't you think i've been stocking up on 3D printers this whole time it's because i know that
at some point, I'll just be able to download Brian's body parts 2.0 from Thingaverse,
print them in some nice translucent resin, and just, you know, bionicize myself.
Yeah, and like, you know, I'd like the idea that Brian's teeth are part of Thingaverse,
but everyone has access to Brian's teeth.
I think it would just be general teeth and you'd just like, oh, I'll print this at 112% scale to fit my own mouth.
Ah, I see. You'd have to, yeah.
So, and basically it's what he does now with crowns.
They do milling there.
You can have the kind sent out for, you know, like Carter's getting a gold one.
She's having it done at a lab.
But if you want, you can do it there.
And they'll just, they 3D print it for you while you're waiting.
Then they come in the room and pop it on your thing.
So I don't think it's that far off doing this at home.
I'm ready for it.
There's something there.
It's going to be my new project.
Yeah.
Look for my new designs on Etsy.
Did I tell you I decide to open an Etsy store?
No.
So many people liked that little lightsaber crystal holder thing that I made that I'm like, you know what, let's put this on Etsy and, you know, because it's up there with, well, I don't know, maybe 2,000 other lightsaber crystal holders.
But, yeah, so they have up on Etsy now coverville.
That's actually what I did, that transparent coverville logo thing that I did.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
Etsy.com slash
Is itsy.com
slash coverville?
Coverville 3D, I believe.
Ville 3D.
Did someone take Coverville?
Is that what happened?
No, I just wanted to differentiate it between Coverville the podcast and Coverville
the freelance company.
And so I just call it Coverville 3D.
Oh weird.
3D is not coming up.
Is there a dash or anything?
Let's see here.
Here we go.
You got to do Etsy.
I don't understand.
Okay.
It's a coverville lot.
Etsy or Coverville 3D.
Let's see if this works.
because I'm, it's, nope, let's, uh, how do you get to the actual page?
Is it shops?
Maybe it's shops.
Etsy.com slash shops.
Oh, coverville 3D.
Okay, I did.
And also I just found out if you type coverville 3D.
dot Etsy.com, it will resolve to the shops thing.
Oh, there we go.
That's even better.
That is good.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can see all the, the massive amounts of stuff that I have there, uh, which is one, one project.
The first thing they say is, hey, trying to have five projects.
up on Etsy because it'll really help your exposure.
So, um, my, my, uh, my, whoa, Super Soldier, uh, Super Soldier, uh, Super Soldier butt plug thing.
That'll probably be going up there.
Yeah.
Uh, be, you got a special instructions.
There is.
I don't know if you can see that.
Uh, maybe if I put a light behind it, but there's like, oh, what do you got in there?
Do you see it?
Yeah.
There's a little bit of something in there.
Got a floater.
A little schmutz and a little schmits in.
there. Yeah, you got floaters.
Oh, boy. Yeah, I don't
either. Some intergalactic
butt plug has floaters. I won't
ship it with liquid in it. That seems like
it's just asking for trouble. But that one
I probably just won't ship it all because
what the heck is that? Let's see. You've got the gray,
white, black, primed gun metal,
transparent red. Which of these choices
do you think looks the sharpest,
the coolest? What do you like the most, color
wise?
Oh, as far as the, well, here's the thing.
So I printed, I actually did print one,
in transparent or translucent
red. And if somebody
is saying themselves, you know what I'd like to do is
make it look like the lava
on Mustafa, like having
the cracking lava.
So basically keep it
keep the little
holes on top, transparent.
And then
crackle black paint
the rest of it so that the red
comes through with the light, because it will.
It'll come through and it'll look like lava.
That one I think is
pretty damn cool. But this does not include
the crystals, correct? No crystals.
It does not include the crystals. You must supply your own
crystals. You must go buy those at
Disneyland for whatever they are,
30 bucks each or however much they are.
Yeah, that's an important part
of this, everybody. Just remember that. Those crystals,
you've got to have that shit. And then once you've got those,
Brian's awesome little thing here is cool.
So, yeah, this is great, dude.
I think this is awesome. You're doing enough 3D
printing stuff. I think you, I don't know, I can see
this expanding being cool. It's basically
being able to design stuff, right? It's
what I want to do is start making
kind of like the prop stuff that Bill does
but more like all right we haven't seen
a fantastic car
the old bathtub looking fantastic four fantastic car
in the movies yet so let's
you know let's do one of those that people can
download and print or I'll print them and send them to people
and they can paint up. Do you think they even dare
put that in the movie? Do you think that even is a thing?
Not the one, not the one, not the one that just looks like a floating rotunda.
Not the, you know, the, you know, the, they did that.
It would just be like, that'd be a bad idea.
Unless they want to, it was a silly idea even in 1970, whatever, when we first,
60, whatever, when we first saw it, right?
It was like, wow, it's not aerodynamic at all.
It is just basically an oval with walls and they just stand in it.
Yeah, that's gnarly, man.
reads a great uh you know he's great inventor he's not a designer no nobody wants the richard's
original freaking bathtub looking ass freaking car bull crap i think it's bad uh all right i got a oh
the only other thing i would say true grit is a good movie to have on while you're having dental
work done no that's gonna sound weird i don't know uh i thought the same thing as thinking grit and i went
oh i don't like grit but then i put on true grit we're talking to cohen brothers too
don't care about the old one so much but I love the new one I think it's amazing one of my favorite
movies ever and it's so good and uh I'm hoping I have some clam chowder this weekend and get some true
grip oh you will get some true grip with real if you're getting the real East Coast clam chowder
getting some real East Coast clam chowder they think sand belongs in there those people I don't know
what's wrong with them so bad I hate it and with the stuff I had down at the wharf in San
Francisco just a crunchy horrible nightmare I can't believe I did that anyway the other thing
I was going to say is I asked the dentist because I meant to do this
forever ago and I finally remembered to do it.
And I didn't do this on laughing gas or I'm not stoned here at the appointment.
I said, so they had this big TV and they got a selection of every movie ever and Netflix
and all the services.
You can do whatever you want there.
And they give you the remote, a good remote, not the piece of crap garbage poo remote from
Apple's last generation of remotes, the slippery little booger one.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, they give you that remote and they let you do it every one.
turn to him and I say, I got the
blocker in my mouth and I'm like, I guess you
a question. He goes, here, me pull that out. He pulls it out
and he goes, what's your question? I said,
has anybody ever sat down here
and watched
what's the name of the movie? I just forgot it.
Oh, um,
uh, what's it called? The Tom Hanks movie where he gets stranded
on the island. Oh, castaway. Castaway. Jeez.
I said, does anybody ever sat down and fired
up Castaway? And he goes,
oh, because the, he uses
the skate to knock his tooth out in the middle
of it. And I said, yeah, like, would that ever be a thing? He goes, you know what? I don't think
in my entire 20 years, or at least the many years we've had TV options in here, I don't think anyone's
ever watched Castaway. I wonder how far, like, you'd have to be in that chair for like two
and a half hours before you get, even get to that scene, right? Like, yeah. Well, in some, like,
had I done, had I done a crown, it would have taken, I could have seen that whole movie plus
something else. Really? You could have seen. Okay. But that's just because they'd be,
A little shop of horrors, maybe.
Is anyone ever watch that one?
Exactly.
Anything to do with like Barthoron Man?
Marathon Man.
Is it safe?
Is it safe?
Oh my gosh.
That movie traumatized me as a kid.
Messed me the F up.
Also, speaking of which, did you know?
So that movie's got Dustin Hoffman, right?
It does have Dustin Hoffman.
It does.
That isn't the exciting part.
The exciting part is, I didn't know this, but in the scene where Vader comes in
with the ball with all the shot with all the needles on it
to interrogate Leia in Star Wars episode 4.
Dustin Hoffman's one of the guards.
He was just hanging around on set.
He's not a stormtrooper.
He's no helmet, so you can see him.
This is he a little short for a stormtrooper?
He's a little short for anything, Brian, that guy.
But I'm telling you, I couldn't believe it.
Somebody pointed it out on somewhere.
I don't remember where I saw it.
And I went to go verify,
I looked at the actual episode on Disney Plus in 4K,
and I was, like, looking really close.
Sure enough, freaking Dustin Hoffman standing there in the thing.
And I guess it was because he was a huge fan of George Lucas
and really liked, what's the car one, the 50s one?
Yeah, the American graffiti.
He loved that.
And so he was like, well, just hanging around the set.
Oh, that Richard Griffith.
Hanging around the set and thought, you know what, can I just pop in here and be a little thing?
And Lucas was like, yeah, whatever.
Go ahead.
Cool.
Yeah.
That's very cool.
Next time you see that scene.
Check them out.
I'm totally going to look for it.
Today, by the way, May 25th.
Today is Star Wars Day, observed, right?
Because this is the day in 1977 that the movie came out, May 25th.
Yeah, we should celebrate.
We're celebrating today.
I don't know about the rest of the world.
We're celebrating today.
With all the T-shirts that I have, all the Star Wars T-shirts, you'd think I would have grabbed a Star Wars T-shirt, but I didn't think about it.
Well, I'm now going to a way to celebrate.
I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, maybe eight clips that are,
Some of them are too long, but these are my Star Wars clips, okay?
Oh, okay, good.
Here's number one.
This is Van Sang Star Wars.
Can you say Star Wars?
No, hoos.
All right, there's that.
It's pretty cute.
I can't wait to see him.
He's still pretty sick.
Star Wars toys.
Oh, let's see.
It's the Fader, watch out.
Okay, there's that one.
That's good.
Here's another one.
Okay, that's weird.
the name of that file is that name of that file is not quite Star Wars quality audio i don't know what that
is okay i was going to say that that one uh i don't remember any beeping no that's news to me you don't
know what that is all right here's another one have you ever heard of evil can evil more i never saw
star wars okay good here's one have you even seen star wars okay that's a good one wellson
Have you even seen Star Wars?
I think that's Owen Wilson.
Ooh, sounds too young and high voice to be Owen Wilson,
but maybe it's an older.
Old Wilson movie.
2016, I captured that.
All right.
And here's one.
Oh, no, that's three hours long.
We're not playing that.
How about this one?
That's the entire movie Star Wars.
Here's your third eagle, Star Wars reference.
I mean, this could almost be a scene out of Star Wars.
Yeah, they sure could be.
Star Wars.
Star Wars.
I haven't even checked in the on.
and checked in on that guy in a while.
I hope he's still third eaglin.
He's probably with us still, right?
Probably still, you know.
Well, you know what?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I'm looking it up.
I mean, he's a million years old.
Let's see here.
Nope, he's here.
He was streamed 20 minutes ago.
Okay, good.
I don't even want to know.
You don't want to know.
I don't pretend I didn't ask.
Yeah.
He's also a whole bunch of bullshit as usual.
Anyway, yes.
So I lifted yesterday.
Do you even lift, bro?
All right, you went lifting in the morning.
I decided to lift because, yeah, I was hoping that there would be,
maybe there'd be a good story here.
Not really.
It was a pretty uneventful morning of lifting.
It only took like six or seven rides, but one of them was like 45 minutes long,
one end of town all the way down to the other.
Actually, two of them were longer rides.
One of them was a long time to get to it.
It was about a, like a 20-mile drive to go pick up somebody.
Yeah.
and take them one mile to their destination.
Oh, wow.
Their destination, 24-hour fitness.
Oh, geez.
Really?
You know, you could maybe do 23-a-half-hour fitness and just walk there.
I don't know, count it as your warm-up exercise.
Yeah, I don't know why you would not, especially the weather's nice right now, right?
Right.
It's relatively nice.
I mean, certainly she could have had a light jacket on.
and been just fine walking to 24-hour fitness.
Maybe she was looking for a hot driver dude to hang out with for a little bit.
I took a kid to school.
Yeah.
He was wearing big fuzzy chucky cheese ears and watched anime on his phone the whole time.
Awesome.
You go, kid.
You go.
Exactly.
You do you.
It's awesome.
But it's funny to be the lift driver in line at the school doing the drop-off with all of the parents.
Yeah.
You got to be careful at our age.
People look at you going, what are you doing at the school over here?
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, you got a kid in here?
No.
Okay, buddy.
We got you on a list.
Exactly.
All right, well, that's good.
You had a fun time.
Yeah.
Well, good.
Yeah, I was thinking of something about you lifting yesterday and forgot what it was.
I'll think of it later.
Yeah, it was an uneventful lift day, which is fine.
You know, I'd love a little story to be able to tell people, but.
Yeah, sometimes life doesn't give you that, and it's okay.
And it's okay.
Yes.
I'm not going to complain.
I'm sure you go log yourself into the old.
Oh, the old feud, yeah?
The old feud.
Damn it.
I forgot I wasn't not in there yet.
It only takes a second nowadays because it's so much better than you used to be.
There it is.
Okay, now we're in.
Well, I think we probably ought to get Dunaway involved somehow.
And by doing that, we just play this.
We get a guy.
He says, I'm OCD as heck.
Please go back to the other music because I'm not used to this change.
It's freaking me out.
You'll get used to it, just like everything else here.
Hello.
Hey, Brian Dunaway.
What's going on?
oh hi scott and brian how are you guys good man we're good good how are you yes wednesday my dudes yeah my dude
hump day humph day ump day i feel like i just talked to you this because i did uh yeah what's that
now i feel like i just talked this because we did last night oh yeah we did we play we play some play
retro we talked about punch out yeah you know what i have to actually thank you because um
this is gonna sound weird maybe but i was having so much fun on that show with you yeah that
I hadn't heard the horrible news yet.
So when the show ended is when I heard it.
And prior to that, everybody else seemed to know about it, but us.
And I invited into the chat, people are like, oh, did you see the news?
Something.
I'm like not really paying attention.
So for a blissful, you know, hour and a half, I was just completely focused on retro games.
Me too.
It was an amazing episode.
And I was the same way.
I got off right afterwards.
And I was like, oh, man.
No, come on.
But yeah, it was a great episode, too.
It was so much fun.
We had a great time.
I'm glad we did.
We're also going to take your call today, everybody.
We want to be involved in the feud today, and you want to be our contestant.
You have to call in.
In fact, we've got to call it right now.
Let's find out who this is.
You're going to want these prizes, people.
Oh, I guarantee it.
Hi, who's this?
It's Gwokmar.
Gwok Mar.
Gwark Mar.
Always good to hear from Gwak Mar.
It makes me want Gwok.
Extra Gwak in my day.
Mar Gwark.
That's Mar Gwak.
Hey, it's good to have you here, Gwak Mar.
You probably know the rules, but I'm going to let Brian explain it anyway.
for everyone at home and the prizes you could win.
Yeah, it's time to play the tadpull, I've sued.
I've surveyed the tadpull on some really topics.
I'm just about out of topics from this current batch.
So, look for a new survey going up today.
Got everything just about ready to go.
So new survey going up today.
This is really the last one.
Second of the last one I can pull from that survey.
Scott and Bring have to predict the answer is that you guys gave us as tadpullers,
and it's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess.
Now, Gwakmar, your job, as you know, is more important than ever
because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
And if your team wins, you get a prize package.
All that includes Satisfactory and PGA Tour 2K21.
I was just talking about this game yesterday.
I was talking about this game with Brian last night on Play Retro.
I love that golf game.
It's amazing.
And I can play it all day.
I do have to turn the commentary off because their color commentary guy is an idiot.
it. But other than that, it's totally fine.
He just says things like, the main guy's like,
oh, we've got a nice one. This is going to be on the
fairway. Very nice. And the other guy always goes,
yeah, that's what you call a golf ball
being on the fairway there, Bill.
It's like, we know, we know what it is.
Anyway, you can turn all that off.
Exactly, that guy.
If only you could have Rob Wrigal and the other guy.
I would love that. That would be amazing. You still have not seen an episode
of that, haven't you? No, but I know it's going to be great
when I find it.
One episode, all I want you to do.
do, Scott. I know. Just watch one episode. You know, they're off doing a dog show. Yeah, you don't, look. You don't ask much, Brian, so I should just do it. Also, Satisfactory, one of the great freaking games ever. You're going to love it. It's good. Why am I not keeping this for myself? I love this kind of stuff. What, Satisfactory?
It's so good. It's so good. I need to send you a copy of Satisfactory, but let me know. Oh, I'll get you hooked up. Hook him up. It's amazing, Brian. You'd love that game.
Really? Okay. I've got a Wenders machine right here that I can play it on. Winders.
machine right here. Totally play it on windows.
It'll be on consoles going at some point.
I have not played a golf game on the computer since probably the late 90s.
Oh my gosh, dude. It's so good.
It's like... Was that Mavis Beacon teaches golf?
No, it was some other golf game that came with the gateway computers.
Oh, it's probably...
Oh, big brown box. Those old lynx.
The cow pattern, the Holstein cow pattern on it.
Yeah, those were the days. Anyway, you're getting the...
This is a hell of a package today. It's really good.
He's getting it
Only if you guys win it for him
So it's really up to you guys
Okay
It's only up to you guys
So this is a good one for you guys
Especially with Play Retro
Please put your hands
Upon your buzzers
This I think might be
This might be the smallest
number of passes I've ever seen
Out of 594 tadpoolers
Only six people could not come up with an answer
And I'm amazed
That there were even that many
that is amazing um all right we asked the tadpool 594 of them responded what was your first gaming console
god the Atari 2,600 show me the old Atari 2,600
oh number two one answer will beat it that was good Scott but I think you went a little older in the tadpool
I'm going to go with the Nintendo
Entertainment System.
The N-E-S. Show me the N-E-S.
Damn it. It's going to be number one.
Damn it.
Number one answer, only by eight people.
Like, eight people difference
in between the 2,600 and the N-E-S.
So, damn it.
That means, Brian, you and Gwakmar have control.
I actually feel pretty good about your chances here, Gwak-Mar.
You're going to do good with Brian.
Because I know what answer I gave.
Yeah.
So, you can do that.
Let's do yours, Gwok-Mar.
yours, Gwock?
Yeah, what is it?
I had the Intellivision because I remember also sending Brian something about the B-52 bomber.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I remember that thing.
That scared me when I was young.
Oh, that controller was a nightmare, that thing.
What a piece of crap.
But, yeah, I think it's a decent answer.
All right.
We talked about last night.
Mattel in television with George Plimpton telling you how much better it is than the Atari 2600.
Yeah, number seven.
Not on the bore.
That's a good points.
Yeah, good points.
Well, Gwock, do you have another one?
I have one, if not.
I mean, we can go down the line of the Nintendo line, so go with Super NES.
And then...
That's what I say.
Let's do it that way.
Do the Super NES.
The SNS.
No, don't say it like that.
Look, I got so much heat for calling it SNS the other day from a guy who says,
I've never called it, Dad, I've never once said that.
No one says that.
I'm like, everybody says that.
All right, show me the Super Nintendo Entertainment System.
Oh, there you go.
Number three.
Yes.
We're going to go online then.
We're just going to go with the Nintendo 64.
That's where I would go next.
Okay.
We're going for the N64.
All right.
Show me the N6.
Did I get bonus points if I say what it's originally called?
No.
Ultra 64.
Oh, wow.
That's very impressive.
show me Nintendo 6-4
6'4
Yep, number 5
Damn
So the next one will be GameCube
Yeah, you're going to do GameCube
Alright, let's go with the GameCube
Think let's get a little scary there
Show me the Nintendo
Little Square Purple and Grey Box
Oh
A little too young for our lady have fallen
No number 16 on the list
I think if you
if the GameCube was your first gaming
console, you might not ever do any gaming
anymore.
Oh, don't be talking smack about Brian
Dunaway's favorite gaming console
of all time. I love.
Love that console. That was a huge
fan of the GameCube.
All right, let's go.
You should listen to play retro and you would
already know that. To put it in a, in an
like in your wall
entertainment system unit, because
it had to be on top.
A lot of these do have to be on top, but
it's like the PS. It's like, it's
The PS5 of its time in terms of awkward size.
It's just really, it was a weird shape.
But see, the thing is, I was fine with it because the GameCube had a handle, so I didn't
feel like it was supposed to sit.
It's supposed to be always ready to.
And you're just always carrying it around and always hooking it up.
What a pain.
Yeah.
Oh, it's even worse.
It was like luggage for him.
Took it everywhere.
All right.
Let's get a little Sega love on here.
I'm going to put, I'm going to say the Genesis to Genocide.
Sure.
All right.
Show me the Genesis.
Genocide.
Nice.
Nine.
How is that so low?
I'll take the points,
but that's surprisingly low.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The answer is still on the board.
Almost all the even numbers,
two is the only even number that's been taken,
but four,
six,
eight, and ten.
How about,
oh gosh.
First consoles.
I assume handhelds are in this list.
Can they be?
It's the tadpole.
You know.
No, just whatever.
Okay.
I'll tell you that the question was, what was your first gaming console?
And I'll tell you that the Tadpool answered that question.
So that is the...
Fair enough.
I'll say Game Boy, just to see how it goes here.
All right.
Okay.
Show me the Nintendo Game Boy.
Oh, look at those points.
Oh, I hate you so much.
Oh, that's bad.
Okay.
Scott's winning by five points right now, and there are...
There's still 18.
points on the board.
If the Game Boy is that low, I think I'm done
with handhelds.
Oh, geez.
Let's go with the PlayStation 1.
There's enough young folk in our, you know,
youngish folk in our rooms here.
That's a good one.
Sure, sure.
The Sony PlayStation non-numeric
original flavor.
Yeah.
Number four.
Number four.
Okay.
Don't worry, Glockmar.
If we run the board, you still win.
It's true, actually.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, I mean, that means, you know, Scott would still have to not miss these next two,
because then you'll get a chance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, if I have to be a chance.
Yeah, yeah, mathematically, we're eliminated, I think, right?
Well, at the moment.
Oh, no, you're totally not.
No, if you get, yeah, you have to, you would have to get both of these.
Actually, technically, if you get both of these, you win because you clear to run the board.
So, yeah, yeah.
get enough points, you'd have to get both of those.
For me to win personally, Brian,
to be able to have bragging rights.
You'd be able to have bragging rights, you would have to get answers six and eight.
They called them the Bragg and Dragon in high school.
All right, let's see.
I'm going to go with the, I'll say PlayStation 2.
Yeah, somebody probably...
Come me.
Show me the PS2.
No!
With a cute little rotating PlayStation logo.
Isn't that the one that?
You could do vertically or horizontally
and the PlayStation 2 logo you could rotate.
Yeah, I don't know if you could pull it out,
but you could definitely turn it.
And then it had that weird stand that came with it.
Like, if anything, the PS4, well, I guess all of them
kind of had a vertical method, but the new one,
the PS5 is the most PS2-ish in its design when it comes to that.
By the way, PlayStation 2 is number 14 on the list, by the way.
Oh, not bad, not bad.
When you lay the...
What was that, Guacamore?
I actually own two PS2.
one of them was my wife and the other one was mine
when he married.
Oh, well.
Nice.
Dueling PlayStation's.
I love it.
Are they the slims or are they the fat boys?
They're the fat boys.
Yeah.
As you say, PlayStation 2 didn't have the slim and a fat, right?
Oh, they did.
They had a slim.
No, they've all had a slim, including one.
The PS1 had one.
Oh, did it really?
The two, the PS2 slim might be the best design they ever did.
It was really.
I actually really, so compact, tight.
When they first came out.
And then reselling it back for about, like, $400 more than I bought it for.
Yeah, you can, yeah, the Slims are at.
And they're like almost solid state.
They're so, like, just rugged.
They're awesome.
Yeah.
They're chunky, yeah.
The one I really hated, though,
Slims usually are pretty good on every console,
except for that stupid one with the sliding door for the PS3.
Do you remember that stupid thing?
Oh, that was bad.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, PS3 is bad.
Oh, yes.
Gross.
Yeah.
What were they thinking?
Just dumb asses.
All right.
Gross.
All right.
Two answers left, number six and number eight.
So the question,
Nigwakmar, are we going to, are we thinking maybe there's a lot younger folks here?
Maybe like the Xbox.
I'm an old fogey, so I don't know much anymore.
These ones that are jumping to mine are Xbox one and or maybe the D.S.
Oh, D.S isn't right.
Well, yeah.
GBA.
I'm going to go.
I think we should go with Xbox.
I think there is a small.
but vocal group of tadpillars that might have that might have not right xbox xbox
xbox original is what you want right yeah yeah i would that's what i'm guess unless you let's you
although the 360 it's your prizes it's your prizes to win my friend
i don't know i don't right i'm going to go with xbox i'm going to i'm going to take a stand
All right.
Box vanilla.
Not to be confused with Xbox one, but Xbox.
Yeah, which is Microsoft confused everyone with, but yes.
Yes.
Show me Xbox.
Oh, man.
15 on the list for the original Xbox.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
I feel like there's an opportunity here for me to think.
Go, Scott.
You can do it.
Think outside the box a little.
Actually, really think, oh, 360 would have been 2005.
that means people are, if they were kids then, like they were Nick's age, he was five, they'd be 22 now.
How many 22 year olds actually listen to this show?
Okay, I'm going to say, oh, geez, this is hard.
Okay, let's say, I don't know, the Wii was, that's no good.
It's so good.
Oh, it's 2006.
Okay, I guess I've got to say one.
I'll just say it.
Let's say the CalicoVision.
Calico Vision.
All right.
Yeah, going old school.
Yeah.
One of the super faithful representations of arcade games.
Love it.
All right.
Show me Calico Vision.
Oh, yes, God.
Thank God.
Yes.
Wow.
All right.
Wow.
I haven't even mentioned my first console.
What is yours?
Or do you want to?
I don't care.
Yeah.
I think you've probably mathematically won at this point, for sure.
Mine was the Atari Pong from Kmart, a little black box before the 2,600, yeah.
I wonder if that's, who would think of that?
That's so old.
I don't think, yeah, I think I'm a rarity.
I don't think you're going to find a lot of people.
They didn't sell a whole bunch of those.
They did sell a lot, but not compared to these other systems.
You know what?
I am going to wing one here, because it was late 90s, early 2000s.
let's go with my final answer
the Sega Dreamcast.
I know there's a lot of love for a lot of people for that thing.
That was a lot of love to play in that
that Leonard Nimoy voiced fish in the Seaman.
Seaman, I mean,
Seaman, I mean, Seaman, that's the one.
Choo Rocket.
All right, show me the Sega Dreamcast.
Gosh.
And you still have one more,
you still have one more guests after this guy.
Yeah, you do.
You each do.
You have a good.
Oh.
Dreamcast, surprisingly,
uh,
Only one person, I think, said the Dreamcast, which really blew my heart.
It was very expensive at the time.
It was.
It was, but it was PS2 era, so it struck me as on the timing anyway, it struck me as okay.
Right, right.
You had to be, yeah, it would be an odd timing, right?
You had to be financially well off, and it'd be your first console.
That'd be kind of odd.
Gwak Mar, do you have another one you could think of?
I have some things like, I know we have some tad poolers for out of state.
there's plenty of, you know, machines like a PC engine.
What are some of the ones you come up with that sound decent?
The problem is I'm thinking of the PC engine in TurboGraphics 16,
but those aren't going to be probably very popular in the answers.
I'm like kind of leaning towards what you had said,
like the 360 maybe kind of go in the opposite direction
because I definitely don't think it would be Pong.
The later console generations sold more,
therefore greater opportunity
for our listeners to have
that is their first console.
I almost said 360.
We can't dismiss the switch
or any of the handhelds either.
Yeah.
The problem of the switch is.
Yes, actually.
That might not be a bad idea either.
I just can't imagine people are going to vote
that high for like,
why am I helping you?
Because we want a lot of order to win.
You've already won.
You've already won, Scott.
Well, I know.
We're trying to make, we're trying to get Guacquemar
this prize.
No, no, no, I know that.
That's true.
So I just feel like if somebody says their first console is the Switch, is that even possible?
Or are those kids not old enough to be listening right now?
I don't know.
I mean, you could live your whole life without you getting a console.
I mean, it wouldn't have to be a kid, you know?
That's a fair point.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, maybe didn't really start making enough money to get one.
Married into a gaming family and said, oh, okay, yeah, the Switch, I like this.
This will be my first gaming console.
I'm going to agree with, I'm going to say the DS is a good guess.
I think it's odd enough out there.
I think we should go with D.S.
They sold so many of those, so you're probably not that far.
All right.
Show me the Nintendo DS.
Oh, not even on the list.
Nobody, surprisingly, nobody listed that as their first.
They mentioned Game Boy, but not the other.
Well, how about Game Boy Advance?
That's my final.
It's your final, yes.
All right.
Show me Game Boy Advance.
Two people, like we had two people said Game Boy Color.
Let's see.
One person, Game Boy Advance.
I'm sorry, two people said Game Boy Advance.
One person Nintendo Switch.
Brian, Brian.
Don't tell me Atari Pong is the answer.
Oh, my God.
Number six on the list was Atari Pong.
I would have been so high, you bunch of oral.
There are a lot of old farts who listen to this show.
Yeah, I mean, I had one of those, too.
That was the first one I had.
And it just plugged directly into the TV.
You had one game, but you'd, like, the different variations were that there were things stuck all over the field that the ball had to go around or something.
I don't remember.
Oh, dude.
I can't believe we used to think it was so cool.
We had a thing connected to our TV that only did one effing game.
So bad.
Right, right.
uh let's uh some of the ones you missed or below on the list the magnivox odyssey was the uh number 11 just barely missing the top 10 uh the commodore 64 slash vic 20 you know it's computer but it people considered it a gaming console too
sega master system uh different than the genesis obviously playstation two xbox xbox xbox 360 we wouldn't even see until number 18 on the list the uh atari 7800 uh nina
Nintendo Wii down number 22, PlayStation 4, Sega Mega Drive.
Same as Genesis, just European.
Pretty much. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, the Sega.
Oh, yeah, actually, I should have counted, though, that one person towards the Sega Genesis.
Sega Game Gear, let's see.
Had a couple old stalwart who had the Atari 5200 or the Atari 7200 as their first.
Did anybody have one of those?
Yeah, one of the eight people in the world.
Because that was the, at the time, that was the game to get with the, that was the machine to get if you want to play Tempest that looked like real Tempest.
Yeah, that's true.
It was, that was a pretty good version of Tempest.
And some other arcade stuff finally got good.
But boy, that 5200 just sold like garbage.
Nobody bothered it.
They really did.
The Sinclair Spectrum.
Let's see, the TRSAD color computer three.
Oh my God, get out of here.
And then somebody had the Radio Shack.
Radio Shack TV scoreboard, which might have been Pong.
I can't remember.
I don't know that one.
I mean, it wasn't the Sears Pong, the Sears one that we all had.
What's the one that Calico made?
Yeah, yours was King.
That's where you went with Kmart.
That was your place.
Yeah.
So there was a thing.
I have a clip of it here.
I think I even played on the show, maybe even yesterday.
This right here.
Listen to this real quick.
This is one of the program cartridges you snap into a new Telstar arcade.
The three-way microprocessor console.
Start with this roaring road race.
gun the throttle faster
a crash score so I had
three the cartridge like this triangle
and it set down in the middle
and it had three games on it one for each side
and each side of the console was also a big
triangle console and each side had one side had
a steering wheel and like a gear shift
other sides had buttons or whatever other side
like make sticks or something else flight stick
type thing and that was the
thing you would buy and you could buy new
cartridges but it would just be
another kind of driving game another flight
game another running around game or whatever
and I don't remember that thing at all
but when I found this commercial I'm like
that would have been something I'd have been stoked about
that would have been cool yeah that would have been really
cool the tell stark nobody
said uh Vectrix
I know there were some people in the chat room
but who has one of those besides Ibit
nobody it's Lord
well yeah and sadly
nobody said the virtual boy
I just made me think like there should be
a virtual boy
emulator for the quest
Oh, that'd be cool. You can emulate Virtual Boy games on a computer or something, but yeah, you really need it for VR.
Get the VR experience, yeah.
Yeah, what a weird freaking thing that was. We got it done away. We've got to do a whole episode on the game.
Oh, we're totally doing that. Yeah, that and other weird things that never quite made it.
Yeah, I didn't quite get it.
We actually had an email last night that requested that. Yeah, oh, good. Well, see, look at us on the cusp of what everyone wants.
Gwakmar, you tried your best. You did your best. But at the end of the day.
either way. Yeah, you're happy either way. You're a happy guy.
And that's what I like most about you.
I'm going camping this weekend and I'm going to go to Chelsea
Football Club in July.
That sounds like fantastic. That's great.
Oh my gosh, my son-in-law will be jealous.
That's his favorite team. He loves
them. Yeah, I take
500 bucks for those tickets. Oh, my lord.
Wow. You're going to get every damn penny
out of them. Guacmar, well done.
Thank you for playing along and we
will see you next time
you call in.
All right. Hey, Dunaway, well done.
Always make sure if you're like, man, I sure enjoyed this game that was all about retro gaming.
Good news.
We have a whole show about it called Play Retro.
It happened last night.
And you'll be able to get your hands on it right now.
Go to Play Retro wherever you get your podcast or find Play Retro or wherever you get your podcast.
Or just go to Frogpants.com slash Play Retro.
Is there anything else you'd like to say, Brian?
Sure.
Scott, this next.
Nope, there goes.
He's out.
I got rid of him.
Well done.
He actually had something.
Well done, sir.
He might have actually had something.
Yeah, I feel bad a little bit.
Yeah, I wonder if those prizes, both of those prizes will roll over to next week,
or if only PGA Tour 2021 will roll over.
I wonder what will happen there.
What will happen with Satisfactory?
This game, I can tell you, well, like Bill DeRan was,
this is all he did for about three months.
All he did was play Satisfactor.
And you can do some crazy shit in that game.
It's so good.
You're going to love it.
I am.
You might love it if you were to win it.
If I were to win it, fair and square, then, yes.
And it sounds like Dunaway,
Dunaway's got a contact or code or something,
so you're probably covered it.
If he's got it, right,
I mean, if he's got a free code,
then I'm not going to,
I don't want him to pay money to buy it for me when I can just steal it from Wesley.
Wesley.
Wesley.
All right,
that's it for the game.
That's it for all this until we come back from this break.
This break is going to be a song.
But when we come back,
we're going to have Tom.
We're going to have Randy.
We've got all our usual Wednesdayness.
So stick around for that.
But right now, I could use some music.
Do you have any of that there?
Yeah, let's go to a band that has the great name, Phones with Cords.
Now, don't be confused because it's not C-O-R-D-S, it's C-H-O-R-D-S.
How clever, Phones with Cords.
This is the recording project of Arthur Alligood.
This is his first solo album under the new moniker.
Big thanks to Z-Tapes and Dark Secret Media for Hook-Met.
you'll put this one. The song, the brand new song, is called What's the Use? The Real Use.
And it comes from the album, Cut the Kid. Here is Phones with Cords and What's the Use? The Real Use.
Back to bike my nests down to the quick hand me off spills and never mind
But what the hell I take them anyway
Shaky hands I try to keep them in my side
Pretend not clean it never works it's not hard to see
Made some kind of trade
the purpose of all pain you are what you do with it I've heard somebody say hey
me down something better some kids faintly whisper in a dream but when I walk
I didn't want to change.
The sky was burned harsh for an hour of gold
and then a summer shower
I'd have enough in my habit
thinking out times for my mistakes
whilst is the real use
and the purpose of all pain
you are what you do with it.
I heard somebody say, hey.
Oh, oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
TV in the early morning
For the white noise blared this warning
I voice down this number
And they all go away
One eight hundred something something I was tempted
But I couldn't
Desperation calling
Like a bill collector
All she's never faced
faced was the use the real use the purpose of all pain we are what we do with it I heard somebody say hey we are what we do with it
I'm Dan, Dan, the red tag man.
Hang red tags where I can.
A red tag here, red tag there.
Red tag's everywhere.
Wow, that's a big savings.
Better than a straw-tarch blowberry pop torch.
All right, we returned that music again, please.
Sure, that's the song is called What's the Use?
The Real Use, and it's by the band, Phones with Cords.
Nice.
I remember those.
Those are things.
I do too.
Yeah.
Like you could only go so far with that phone, but it hung there in the kitchen right on the wall
next to the door of the kitchen.
So if you're really good with stretching it, you could maybe sit on the couch in the living room and talk on the phone.
Maybe.
Look what I've got.
This reminds me of something I picked up on Amazon that's super dumb, but I did it anyway.
For $10 or something, I bought a bag of, I don't know how many are in here, but little miniature bottles and cans.
Because you love little miniature things.
I love little tiny things.
And so is Carter.
Except parasites, apparently.
Except parasites.
Everything else that's tiny you like.
Yeah, I like everything but a parasite.
That's true in real life, too.
Yeah, well, it doesn't.
But it's everything you could imagine.
And so I want to make like a little tiny, like a little bar or something that just has a ton of drinks behind it.
And some of these are meant to look like Gatorade.
This one looks like beer.
And there's some whiskey bottles in here.
And they're all just plastic and stupid.
And I like it.
I saw it on Amazon.
It's like, I got to have that.
I don't want that.
I want that.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
That is impulse.
to end all impulse buys.
You're not wrong.
You are absolutely not wrong.
I will cop to that.
All right, let's get our pal Tom in here.
Let's get some tech news out.
I like that idea a lot, Scott.
Me too.
You know, of all the ideas we've had today,
this might be my favorite.
So we'll play this now.
With the computer, as with any tool,
the concept and direction must come from the man.
You guys know the man?
He's Tom Merritt.
He joins us here every week on Wednesdays,
and we talk about tech news,
as he scours the world for the latest in tech technology news.
It'll happen later on the Daily Tech News show.
If I can talk, that'd be great.
Hey, it's Tom Merritt, everybody.
What's going on, Tom?
Oh, I'm just trying to track down what Microsoft's doing with Duck DuckGo.
Oh, I had, what?
They have Bing.
Why do they care?
Well, Duck, Duck, Doe go uses Microsoft's ads on the Duck, Dock Go search engine,
partly because it also uses Bing
to power some of the search results
that Duck. Dot Goh uses.
Sure.
And another thing that Duck.com does
is offer a browser.
And that browser has something called tracker radar.
And what tracker radar does
is not only blocks cookies
and normal third-party tracking,
but blocks hidden tracking.
Goes a little above and beyond
than what other privacy-protecting browsers does.
However, a security researcher named
Zach Edwards discovered that the tracker radar doesn't seem to be blocking a particular kind of
tracking on Microsoft sites.
So this is a script that loads.
The tracker radar usually blocks from loading, but on Microsoft sites, it lets it load.
And then that allows Microsoft to do a little bit of tracking of you when you're on Microsoft
sites.
DuckDocco says the reason that they're allowing it is because of their agreement with
Microsoft to run ads on the search engine, that agreement that they signed before they made a
browser doesn't allow them to block the scripts when they load a Microsoft side in the browser.
They're trying to get that part of the agreement changed, but they haven't yet, and now people are
mad. Yeah, duck.com says they promise their increasing protection for Microsoft trackers.
As of today on Throt.com, they have a whole thing here. This is hilarious because I've been using
the Duck Duck Go browser this week. Just been testing it, playing with it. Oh, really? Yeah. And I really like it. It's simple, lightweight, fast as crap. It seems good. It especially has a feature I really like, which is sometimes I'll get like a million tabs open and I'm like, all right, I don't want to go and close all these or deal with it. They have a button up top. And this may be available as an ad on other browsers, so forgive me if I've just never seen it. But they have a little flame icon. And basically, it's just to burn everything to the ground icon.
And you hit it, and you literally get, there's a bunch of animations you can choose,
but the default is like flames that just go, and then when it's done, nothing's there.
It's just a little search window and no tabs and you're ready to rock and it's cleared everything for you and you just keep going.
I really like that.
And I generally like Duck, Duck Go, they've been my search engine for five, six years now.
That's all I use.
I use them on mobile.
I tend to use Google on desktop just because it still has a little better results, especially when looking for news.
But on mobile, my default is the duck, dot go, and I like it.
Yeah, I like it too.
So this is an interesting twist, though.
I don't think back then they were planning on making their own browser.
They were working hard on having their own add-ons for existing browsers and, you know, their little toolkits and everything.
So do you think, what happens here in your estimation?
Because my guess is Microsoft's going to be, well, if you want the ad stuff, you're going to have.
have to let this in. And if you don't, I guess maybe maybe not. I actually have a feeling that
the Microsoft agreement was drafted by a bunch of lawyers in a room who are like, well, you're
just doing a search engine, but just to be safe, let's mark these boundaries, because that's
what lawyers do. We tend to want to interpret contractual agreements as intention, as if you and I
sat down and said, here's what we plan to do in the future. That is not how legal agreements are drawn
up. Legal agreements are drawn up with lawyers saying, what's the least amount of
permission I can give you to get this deal done? So it may not be that Microsoft really wants
this. It may be that like the contract calls for it. And Microsoft might be willing to let it go.
But of course, then you're going to bring in lawyers who are like, well, okay, what's the least
amount of letting it go we could do? So I don't really know, but I do tend to to hold off from
thinking like, oh, Microsoft's going to fold their arms and say, no way, unless you push us.
The other take on this is there is nothing that the current generation loathes more than the
appearance of hypocrisy. And that's really Duck Duck Goes crime here, is that they're not perfect.
How dare they advocate for privacy, advocate for security, and not be perfect 100% of the time?
I'm not saying I love this, but frankly, I get why it.
happened. Yes, they could have been more transparent that this was part of the browser
before the security researcher found it. But I have to say, since it was brought to light,
they have rushed to explain like, yes, that is absolutely right. This is why it happens. This is
what we're hoping to do about it. And we're going to keep working on it, which is really for me,
personally, I know probably most of you disagree with me, but for me, that's great. That's what I
want to see. Is someone tell me why it happened and tell me they're trying to fix it. Yeah, I mean,
Obviously, from a PR perspective, duck, go probably wishes they were out in front of this before anything got said or done so that they could, you know, lead the conversation.
Because that is kind of what they do on the security front.
If you follow them on Twitter, my gosh, every Twitter post they post is some, I won't say anti-Google, but it's basically them going, here's what Google does whenever you search for a thing.
Here's what we do.
And it's like none of those things.
Like they're always pushing to say, you know, their whole market scheme plan, everything, not scheme.
scheme in the British way of saying scheme.
Because over here, we think of it as, you know, pejorative.
But the whole plan is to say, look, we're doing all of this stuff for your security.
And the second that that shows any kind of cracks, of course, people are going to jump all over it and freak out.
But yeah, I'm okay with them.
Of course.
They've responded now.
And now they say they're going to do what they're going to do.
And they should be held to whatever they're supposed to do by the people who want to hold them to that.
And we'll see what happens.
but I don't think it's that big of a controversy.
Like, you know, the truth is, they've even said...
Sadly, it is that big of a controversy.
Yeah, I guess it is.
Maybe it shouldn't be.
You know, again, I don't think it's wrong to hold their feet to the fire.
Like, wait a minute, duck, duck, go.
Like, what's going on here?
Yeah.
But they have now responded.
And so now I feel like our job as the customers of Duck, Duck, Doeco is not to quit Duck, Go,
or try to burn down their corporate headquarters or anything, but to be like, great, when?
When is that going to happen?
Yeah.
And also to keep in mind that Duck Duck Goes browser, and Weinberg makes this point, and I think he's right, is only guilty of providing more protection than most privacy protection browsers.
They could have not done this kind of active third party like looking for hidden trackers and they wouldn't be in trouble.
Yeah.
Whether the agreement said that or not because they wouldn't be blocking this kind of script on any site.
I would rather them have done that and be like, well, it's not going to work on Microsoft,
unfortunately.
We have to make an exception there.
And yes, I would have much preferred that that was in their terms somewhere or in their
explanation somewhere of like, we want, you know, what he's saying now should have been
known before.
But I don't think that's the most egregious thing.
And I don't get the impression that Duck Ducko has a history of hiding this sort of thing,
quite the opposite.
So, okay, you made a mistake.
Try not to make any more.
But I think it's working out well.
Yeah.
You know, security researcher found a thing.
Duck, Duck Go is like, oh, yep, nope, we messed up.
We're going to try to fix that.
And maybe that's why they didn't put it out there is maybe they were thinking they could get this done and never have to say it in public.
Because it is such a small bit of tracking that people might not have noticed.
And it's something, again, that most browsers don't protect against anyway.
Yeah, that's true.
So just real quick, I guess a mini review of what I like about the browser.
not that this is supposed to be about, you know, promoting them or anything, because I'm not really, but there. So I first, the first thing I did was try the mobile browser and really liked it. And it was fast and I like it better than Safari on my phone. So I went and tried to find the desktop browser. And I was like, where is this thing? It's supposed to be out. Oh, it's enclosed beta. Okay. Well, I guess I'm not going to be running out of my Mac or my PC. Well, I put my name on the list that they let you, they let you sign up basically in the mobile app. And then they contact you. And I got contact and I got access to the, to the mobile.
or the desktop browser
and I can tell you
is somebody who swaps browsers a lot
because somebody comes out
with a new one that's super fast
or Firefox has a hot new whatever
or hey Brave did a thing
and tweak their engine
and it's this much faster
or this whatever
it's really fast
like really fast
now I remember
here's something that's true
about every browser
when they first come out
they're always really fast
when they first come out
but then what happens
is they start having to add things
sometimes necessary things
and the speed is sometimes cut in favor of features.
So far, they're not there yet,
but strong showing as far as I'm concerned,
and that little flame button is awesome.
Just click it, boom, everything goes away.
Don't accidentally click it, though.
Okay?
There might be an option and preferences to, like,
make me confirm that I want to clear everything.
Because as it stands right now,
the functionality has hit the flame and the whole thing explodes.
So don't click it by accident.
It's a rad feature, and I'm looking forward to using it more.
So there's that.
Anyway, there may be better privacy browsers out there.
Let me know. Feedback and daily tech news show.com if you've got a favorite.
But I still think Duck, DuckGo is a pretty good one when you compare it to everything else.
And I these days try not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
And I think Duck, duck go is still good.
Yeah, it's all right.
Also, check out the, I guess the new Brave search engine's supposed to be pretty strong that way.
I haven't used it.
Yeah, definitely.
I can't really speak to it.
And the Brave browser, obviously, it's the opposite for Brave.
Duck, Doggo is a search engine now making a browser.
Brave is the browser that's making a search engine, you know, and we're getting all of these competitors, which is fantastic.
I love it.
I think that's how it should be.
Tom Merritt, today, a daily tech news show, 2 p.m. Mountain will talk about this and other breaking tech news stories of the day.
Very excited about that because I get to be on.
But I'm also really excited about other stuff you have going on.
so why don't you tell the people at home what that is?
Yeah, so I am writing up my, you know, all the details of the duck, duck, go thing.
My opinions come on TMS and DTNS and other places, but I try to write up just the facts,
both to use as a launching off point during DTNS, but also I'm sharing them on my substack now.
So if you go to tectom.substack.com, that's tech tom, then you will be able to sign up and get that
kind of stuff in your inbox.
And in fact, as soon as I've finished nailing down, this is what I was doing when Scott
called.
If you saw me like looking down, I was, I was, you know, adding one last thing to this thing.
So I've got a few more things to add to it.
You will get that in your inbox before the end of today, probably before DTNS.
So, again, that is techtom.
Dotubstack.com.
Nice.
I like that for a second you said stub sack, which just sounds painful.
Sounds really bad.
Don't stubsack.
Stub sack is something that you get as a blestack.
when you stub your toe.
Do not subscribe to that.
No, no. I don't subscribe, nor do I support it.
But this thing Tom's doing, totally. Go for it.
Tom married, everybody.
Ace Detect on Twitter. We'll see you this afternoon.
Thanks, y'all.
Bye now.
See you.
All right, very cool.
Yeah.
I do love me some duck, duck.
Stub sack is what happens when I walk around in the middle of the night out of bed
and I accidentally hit the end table that's just at the right height.
Oh, by the way.
Yeah.
Sorry, not to get off your sack too soon.
but um please please do how is your toe you're good uh it is currently still taped to the toe next to it
it's uh it's it's getting better but man when i don't have that tape on there and i'm walking around
i can definitely feel like it's still yeah still messed up that sounds like pain in the ass to me
but with it taped together i've been doing bike rides and stuff and haven't had a problem so
good oh yeah i was going to that's the other thing i was going to hinder your biking that sounds like not
It doesn't. Nope. Other parts of my body hinder my biking far sooner than my toe does.
Like your stubsack. That thing will get in the way every time.
My stubsack, exactly. It's more butter for the stubsack.
That's coming up soon, everybody. All right. Here's this deal here.
Time to celebrate the many accolades of Hollywood, especially with modern streaming,
by doing a little recommendals with their old pal, Brian, or Brian, shit, with Randy Jordan.
too many brines in my life you have to agree good morning morning stream aloha scott hello
oh hi uh i may not sound like it but i'm still in shock yeah uh i am still in shock that you
didn't guess pong and like your first four guesses well it's like you it's like you've never
played tadpooly feud before it's not that it's just that those it's so old we just thought you
yes exactly each too like people you know every tadpully view the answers are coming
from people who, by the way, if you have ever submitted answers for Tad Pooleyfewd, folks,
it's probably time to take your back pills today, just so, you know.
So, I also, oh, I also have an app slapy update for you.
Oh, give it to us.
Yeah, so exactly two weeks ago right here on TMS, you convinced me to check out Scrabble Go.
Yeah.
And so I installed it, and then I forgot about it for like 12 days.
Yeah.
So then a couple days ago, I looked at Scrabble Go, and I'm like, oh, I love this.
except for the fact that it serves me a 30 second unskippable ad every minute or so you really enjoy this app and so like i started playing it and so i started a bunch of games like literally every friend that it preloaded for me i started a game with and uh this weird thing happened so uh bet me it asked me to play the first word right which is kind of a disadvantage right but okay so you play the first word and so i started a i started a game with uh brian i bit and i played a word for six
16 points. And I started a game with Claire Gack and I played a word for 16 points. And then I started a game with Scott Johnson and I got a huge word laid out on the rack for me.
Yeah. Like in spelling and I just played it out. I played it out for 54 points. Oh my gosh. I thought you know, this is not going to cause Scott to want to play Scrabble with me. Right. Well, the good news is just going to let that game go. Yeah. The good news is or the bad news either way you want to look.
at it. I have forgotten all about Scrabble and haven't opened it. So whatever this game is,
you've started, I wasn't even aware of it yet. So I need to get in there and I'll play you.
I have no problem playing you. I just kind of, I played so much Scrabble for about two
solid months. Like every time I got a notification, it was like, oh, time, play, time, play.
I just, I got burned out. It was like so much of it all the time. So I just, I'm in love
with the puzzles. Like, I love that there's this single player modes of many single
single player modes where it just gives you puzzles to solve and like figure out the highest score.
can play on this board that kind of thing i think that's a i think that's yeah it's good it's
i think that's what sets it apart from words with friends plus the words of friends interface is
jank it's old well anyway uh it's good to have you here let's get to these things we're gonna start
with brian uh yeah we'll start with brian we always do what am i saying you have uh in my head i was
like wait a minute i start with randy on film sack i start with brian here oh yeah um
let's start with the first one brian you got a little setup for us here what's this this one is uh very
This clip is very appropriate for Star Wars Day to Day, although there's nothing else about this game that is Star Warsian at all, or I was a game, this TV show that's Star Warsian at all.
It is a TV series three seasons, and it's over, so it's a complete, a complete start, middle, and end, and you're going to hear a little clip from it right now.
All right, here we go.
How many planets are you got in the universe?
Oh, how many?
Brilliant.
You've got trillions of planets.
You're going to tell me, out of all those planets,
the universe goes on forever,
this is the only planet that's got any life on it.
Come on, mate.
Jesus.
Would you root an alien?
Why would I root an alien?
No, no, look, there's no human women about.
You're on one of those planets surrounded by fucking alien women.
They're all, you know, you haven't had a root in 10 years.
You haven't one?
Pence
One more
She looked like
E-T, mate
I can tell you
It's not gonna ask
Okay
What about
You've seen that Star Wars film
Right
Where that Jabba the Hutz
Sluck
The big fat fucking thing
He's got this
He's got this
Alien woman on a chain
She's dancing around
She's got the
Lycra on
She's got the
You know
She's got the good
Good rig
Got the horns
Give her one
I'd have to be pretty
fucking tell
mate i'll tell you mate i give her one on a fucking heartbeat and you know why you for no other reason to say
raymond that i f*** an alien all right i'm already sold i don't know what this is but i'm in
what is this this is an australian show called mr in between and i can't remember who
recommended this show to me it might have been gidget i asked uh Nicole because it felt like it was
around the time that Nicole was doing recommendals that i heard about this um but this is all right
If you were to, let's say you have a piece of paper.
Yeah.
And you make a little triangle.
And on one corner of the triangle, you put Sopranos.
On another corner of the triangle, you put Dexter.
And on the third corner of the triangle, you put Barry.
And then you draw towards the center with all those things.
That point right there in the center is going to be this show right here.
It's called Mr. In Between.
I'm in.
I'm all in.
You've just said everything I ever needed to hear about a thing.
I'm ready.
I'm ready for that.
Just hearing that clip reminded me of the trip.
You know, the trip?
The trip?
Oh, with de Kugan and...
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The other guy.
Rob Bryden.
Yeah, yeah.
I love that.
I love those movies.
Those are great.
I actually, at first I was kind of thrown because I thought that's what we were hearing.
But no.
Sure.
No, this is a series about a guy who is a hitman, a hitman for hire.
The person he works for is, does most...
of his work for is Damon Harriman, who you know as Dewey Crow from Justified and Charles Manson
and Mind Hunter, who's, you know, obviously Australian. And I never knew that until now, I think. I think
I just learned that Dewey Crow is Australian. But he's...
Wait a minute. You're blowing my mind here. I had no idea that guy was Australia. Really?
Yeah. He's really Australian. Okay. Once again, Australians know how to do American accents
and then American like Southern accents better than we do.
They're amazing.
Yeah, yeah.
Crazy.
He's absolutely brilliant.
And as far as, like, people you recognize, he's probably going to be the only person in
this show that you recognize.
It's got, obviously, it's got that kind of dark feel that you get from Sopranos and
sometimes Dexter, but there's that whole life balance of like he's living one life as this
hitman, but then he's also got a daughter and an ex-wife and a new girlfriend that he's
kind of keeping this life from
and that's kind of your dexter
parallel of course the fact that he's a hitman for hire
is why it reminds me of
Barry but all of those things do
at times have a really
weird black comedy about them
a really weird twisted
comedy side to them and that's
what this one has as well
it's you know
at times it gets violent at times
it gets dark but
it's but this character
Ray Shusmith the main character
By the way, played by Scott Ryan, who is also the writer, creator.
He's, I think, producer of this as well.
And he wrote the original movie that this kind of stems from, which was called The Magician.
And then he turned it into this series.
Can me the name one more time?
And this is sort of his first thing.
This is his first thing, yeah.
And did three seasons.
It just ended the third season.
just ended in September
but it was basically
he wrapped it up
and so you'll
you know you basically got three
uneven net uneven seasons
but first season is like
six episodes the third
second season is 11 last season is nine
so it's an inconsistent
number of episodes in the season
but you know you've basically got 26 episodes
of the show that you can watch
on Hulu
what's the name one more time
it's called Mr.
in between and uh that comes from the uh the song uh accentuate the positive uh whatever the negative
and don't miss with mr in between the lyrics of that song uh filmed like out out and about in
australia right in australia yeah i think in um not in sydney but kind of in um oh where is he
other parts of new south wales other parts of new south wales yeah exactly oh okay i remember
seeing this poster, the guy with the match burning in his mouth.
Yes, yes.
It's an FX joint.
Okay.
It's an FX joint.
It's on Hulu.
All the episodes are on Hulu and eliminate the negative.
Thank you, Talley.
I couldn't remember that second line.
But it is, we devoured all the episodes of this show because it's got so much heart.
This main character and his relationship with his daughter is maybe the best thing.
about this about this show and um you're reminding me of uh several years ago a co-worker of mine
and a friend came came to me at my desk and said uh i need you to watch this show that has so much
heart and it's i've i've loved it so much eddie and he turned me on to letter kenny oh yeah
and like i you know it's yeah it does have heart what he didn't say you know that it's like
vulgar like extremely you know what i mean like he didn't say that he just said oh you're gonna you're
I love how much heart.
I feel like I run into this with Australian things and New Zealand things and Canadian things.
And British things too, I think.
Some British stuff as well.
But there's something very weird about the fact that I find heart in things like Letterkenny or even more so in the trailer park boys for whatever reason is so like meant to be, you know, dirt level crass and everything else.
But there's weird heart in their stuff.
It's hard to explain.
I love it though.
Speaking of, there's the Shorzie show, just came out.
What?
Shorzy on his own?
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
There's four episodes and it hit Crave like 10 days ago.
Oh my gosh.
I think they actually show Shorzy, though?
Like he's going to, because I'm, and he's just played by what's his name, Jared.
Yeah, by Jared Kiso.
And that's the thing.
I don't know.
I haven't looked at it yet, but, man, it would be freaking funny if every scene of Shorsi
had his face obscured somehow.
What the frick?
Okay.
I must know more about this.
I'll have to find out.
I love that character.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
Well, that sounds great, Brian.
You've convinced me without very much need to.
It sounds awesome.
Yeah, it's so good.
Mr. In Between on Hulu.
Let's go to my second one.
This is a, this I believe, is the first series,
first kind of mini-series and what's going to become
an anthology drama series, but this one is specific about a certain thing. And it's funny because
my clip does not even include the main character that, or the main person that this is a kind of
a docu-drama about or docu-comedy or whatever. Oh, weird. Boy, that's a really confusing thing.
This is a series. Here you go. All right. Here you go. The best thing about Travis is he'll run
through walls to win. The worst thing about him is he thinks everything's a wall.
Have you lost faith in him?
No.
No.
It's just that he's got unfettered power, which we help give him, and he's spinning off course a bit.
We just need to be his bumpers.
Help keep this thing from heading toward the gutter.
We redirect him in a small way.
He sees that it's better, then we can work with him.
I get it, but Travis has more power than any of us because of his super shares.
Exactly.
Our hope is to team up.
We can't bully.
them. But if we sit back right now, we do nothing.
Might lose them. Might not be able to reach them again.
Now it's the moment for intervention.
So on the tipping thing, we need your vote.
Well, I see that. I see that you do.
I have no idea what that is.
I just realized if you make a dramatized,
documentary about a big business venture that went south we're going to love it i just like it just
occurred to me like it's elizabeth holmes it's we crashed it's like right it's the dropout it's uh right
yeah yeah people love that stuff i guess the dropos it was the was the the fake german heiress
that i also uh did a thing about this this is like it feels like it's right in the same line of that
that's call chandler by the way that voice that you're saying i know i recognize that voice um speaking
of Friday Night Lights, we just talked a lot about alumni from that on battleship this last
weekend. That is a show called Super Pumped. And the first season of Super Pumped is called
the Battle for Uber. This is about the Uber CBO, former Uber CEO, Travis Kalanick,
who took this idea of people ride sharing and battled local unions, battled taxi cab companies,
battled drivers at points and things to make Uber happen.
And this is fascinating.
It's really, really well done.
I don't know.
I haven't looked to see what the rating is.
I think it's probably got like a 60 or 70 on Rotten Tomatoes.
It's like 58%.
It's better.
It is better than that.
You've got Kyle Chandler as the angel investor.
that works with Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Joseph Gordon Levitt plays Travis Kalanick, the main guy.
And it's a hard character to watch
because you're hating him
but rooting for the people who work with him
at the same time.
Yeah, like, in real life, he's kind of a villain.
And so I'm just curious, like,
if they portray him as just, you know,
a mustache twirling villain
or if there's like something to like about Travis
Kalenik.
There's a drive,
a dedication. I mean, the beginning of that clip,
Kyle Chandler says it perfectly.
He, um, he,
when he's got something
that he wants to achieve, he
will break every, break down every
barrier on his way to get it.
The problem is that he thinks everything is this barrier
that he has to get through and so everything turns into
a fight. Um,
you've got, uh, but you, this other,
like, this supporting cast of characters,
you've got Umma Thurman as
Ariana Huffington.
What? You've got,
weird. You've got,
Carrie Bichet from Hulton Catch Fire.
She, by the way, she is my pick.
If they're going to be casting an invisible woman, a Sue Storm, Sue Richards,
Carrie Bichet would be my pick, because she would be the perfect actress to play that role.
Elizabeth Shoe is his mom, which is really, it's got to be a difficult thing to, you know,
act alongside this woman that he probably had a crush on in the,
80s like we all did yeah she's awesome love uh quentin tarentino narrates this thing um probably
the the cameo that you're going to love the most because i really encourage both of you to watch this
is hank azaria as trim cork really apple yes he doesn't do it as a as an impersonation as much as he
does it as a
like a really good representation
of who Tim Cook is as opposed to
trying to sound as much like him. He does the accent,
but he doesn't, it doesn't come off as like this really bad
impersonation.
Huh. Interesting. I would never have guessed
that would be a thing. I know. And Hank Azaria, as Tim
Cook just doesn't feel like a thing you'd ever hear.
Weird. I'm a little bit repulsed by Tarantino
as the narrator.
Very, very brief, and it wasn't until the end that I actually realized it was
Tarantino.
Okay.
So they didn't go, hey, look at this.
Oh, there's some feet.
There's some feet.
No, not at all.
Okay.
It's done in that same kind of, um, uh, the big short style where, um, to help explain complicated
business concepts, you'll have words that appear on screen and, and, and little animations
and things that, uh, that do this.
will talk directly to the screen every once in a while to explain an interesting concept.
And I do like that kind of fourth wall breaking in something like this because it does kind of say,
okay, well, here's what these kind of super shares are compared to regular shares, blah, blah, blah, blah.
As somebody who drives for Lyft, I kind of like seeing, you know, how crappy Uber treated,
well, it sucks how crappy Uber treated their drivers for a long time and in some cases still do.
And so you're kind of a rooting for Lyft as part of this.
Yeah. I do. I don't even use Uber. I can't freaking stand them. I like Lyft.
Yeah. Did you ever watch billions, Brian?
I never watched billions.
But this had a little bit of a succession kind of field good at times.
I imagine. That's why I wasn't sure I wanted to see this. I heard about it. I love the cast. I'm like, man, this seems like it'd be cool.
And then I was just like, do I really want to be, watch another rich guy be a dick?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, I guess this is by, so Brian Coppelman is one of the creators of.
Brian Cuppleman and David Levian.
They go together.
They're kind of like the creators, like all those other pairs of creators.
Oh, they made billions.
That's them.
Yeah, they made billions.
Oh, okay.
And I didn't, uh, the girlfriend experience.
They made the girlfriend experience.
Hmm.
Well, look, I've got a Kyle Chandler rule that I'll watch any.
anything he's in. So maybe I need to watch it. He's, he's, uh, his, his character, my God, is one of the
best things about this. Like he, of all the people you're rooting for, um, he's kind of the,
the second in command under Joseph Gordon Levitt or his backer and you're just kind of rooting for
him the most. Outside of his role in King Kong, I, he's rootable on everything. I love him. I love
yeah. Yeah, he really is. Um, so this is, uh, it's called Super Pumped. The first season is called
a battle for Uber. No idea what other seasons of Super Pumped are, are going to be about. But
it feels like it got its name from just the crap that this Travis Kalanick
not bro I mean he's like a tech bro basically yeah so everything you'll you'll
like seeing yeah go ahead I just want to tell you a short list of the things Kyle
Chandler found his way into after Friday Night Lights it is remarkable he was in
Super 8 of course he was in Argo hell yeah
He was in zero dark 30.
Broken City.
The Wolf of Wall Street.
Manchester by the sea.
That's in just five years.
That's because he's amazing and deserves to be in every one of those and more.
He should keep going forever.
That guy's agent.
It's a genius.
Part of it is he's just amazing.
I think it's the people like directors and producers see him and say,
God, I want to work with that guy.
He's so good.
And he seems so on the surface, just the nicest guy.
He is.
Even that bloodline show on Netflix, which was kind of dark, but that's great.
That's, oh, man.
And then I'm right now, I'm just itching to go watch Friday night lights again.
I just, I'm in the mood.
Maybe it's because we all saw Taylor Kitchen freaking fat Damon over the weekend.
And I'm like, oh, well, it's time to go back.
So, this is, this is on Showtime.
So now is a good time to do your free seven-day trial of Showtime or get it as part of the Paramount Plus package.
If you're going to, if you're going to watch the Star Trek shows anyway, do the, do the bundle where you get Showtime for free when you sign up for Paramount Plus.
When I just, when I just went to Google and said, how do I watch Super Pump to direct me to Hulu, which always, like, Hulu had such great SEO, don't they?
Yeah, they do pretty good.
They do pretty good.
And you, you can probably get that through.
Right, yeah, because they, yeah, they'll bundle Showtime for you.
They all do that.
Everybody, Amazon does it.
They all do it.
Everybody's bundling everybody now, it seems like, which is.
everybody's bundling everybody it's a little weird to be honest i don't know feels like we're heading
back to cable days but whatever uh well all right i both uh these sound interesting to me i got to be
in the right move for the for your second rec i think but uh yeah i mean i could see i could see why
because it's uh it's still a really good story it's a brilliant story and it's got some great
a great cast so and it's it's significant in the sense that maybe you know and there'll be
eventual documentaries maybe there's some already now but this this move into the
gig economy is fascinating to me.
Yeah. Listen, I'm not going to recommend an NFT or a Bitcoin show.
Yeah. Hopefully those never exist.
Hopefully those never exist. But this one, this one I totally recommend as being kind of the
better of those kind of things. Well, there you go. All right. I'm going to play a clip here
for mine. This is a weird random find of mine because I got in the mood about a week ago
for some anthology animation.
And you might say, oh, just Scott watching Love Death and Robots again?
No, I'm behind on that.
I still need to see that new season.
That dropped just Friday.
I saw this before that.
I'd never even heard of this.
I didn't know what happened.
It was a Netflix original.
All-stop motion.
I'll play you the clip.
Check it out.
Raymond, it's very muddy out here.
My feet are getting wet.
Another girl.
Her name's Isabel.
Well, I can't see a thing.
Wait your turn, Georgie.
We're packed in here like cattle.
How old are you?
I'll be nine in June.
You look very small for your age.
Would you like to hold her?
No.
I'm cold.
All right.
So this is just part, this is a clip from the first third of a series of three that are all part of a Netflix original called The House.
and if you were to look at it for the first time
and have to make a determination about what you're looking at style-wise,
you might go, oh, fantastic Mr. Fox-ish looking.
It's got a lot of the characters are very hairy.
In fact, the second or the second and third segments are literally,
the second one is about a mouse and a bunch of other mice.
And the third one is about a bunch of cats.
But the first one's about people.
but they're all animated in this style
and they're all kind of furry
so you can see
it's extremely good animation
but you can see that thing
where you can tell where the hands
have been moving stuff
because it's kind of jiggling a little bit
the whole time people move around
like in Fantastic Mr. Fox
the fur kind of justiculates
it's hard to explain.
I really like that.
I do too.
I'm a big fan.
It's like a weird texture thing
and I really like it.
But anyway, this came out this year
and it's set across
very different eras
a poor family
an anxious developer and a fed up landlady all tied to the same mysterious house and it's comedic
and dark and weird um i'm just going to go ahead and put it out there i think the first segment
the first third is really the defining third i think it's the best thing in the in the thing i think
all of it's good though um but in particular i think that first third is really really interesting
and incredibly animated really well acted um do you guys know mea goth from uh
Oh, geez.
Recently, she was in that X movie, which is like a porno turned into...
Oh, yeah, a slasher...
Slasher thing, yeah.
You've seen her a million other things.
She's, like, really interesting and weird-looking.
Like, she's a model, I think, is where she got started.
Anyway, Mia Goth plays that little girl you heard in the clip.
And just a really compelling voice work from her.
And a ton of other people that you probably don't know.
Miranda Richardson is a name that you might know.
But a lot of British actors and people.
Anyway, I was completely and utterly enthralled in this thing, just completely into it.
And I didn't expect it, didn't know what it was going to be like and walked away knowing who this audience is for.
So here's what I'm going to say.
If you're somebody who likes avant-garde strange animation, if you used to go to animation festivals in the 80s and 90s, like I did, if you were, you know, Spike and Mike or whatever it was.
Exactly. If you watch liquid television because you couldn't wait to see what weirdness is around the corner, like I did, then this is for you. In a lot of ways, it's the same people I would say Love Death and Robots is for. If you like avant-garde animation, non-traditional, not Disney, not Pixar, not normal, you know, mainstream stuff, then this is for you. It's not like Uber violent. There's no, there's a couple of swears, but no like no F-bombs or anything. It's all just, you know, kind of a,
old hells and dams and things.
So I think it's actually even okay for kids,
but I wouldn't recommend it for anyone younger than 10.
I think it's a little too weird maybe for the younger set.
But if you have any interest in this kind of stuff,
and if you liked either Fantastic Mr. Fox or Isle of Dogs.
I love dogs.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of with this.
Okay.
This is right up that alley, and I loved it.
I freaking loved it.
And it's short.
It's like not even an hour and a half.
I want to say, a little shy of that.
And it's just a masterwork of animation and weirdness and unexpected moments.
And it's really weird.
The first one is set in like the, I want to say the turn of the century, early 1900s.
The second segment is set right now today, cell phones and Bluetooth earbuds and all that.
And the third one is set in a time that I could not point or nail down.
I don't know when it's set, but it's ethereal and strange.
and beautiful and and stuck with me and i haven't been able to stop thinking about it the house
on netflix yeah totally worth it says tv ma but i don't know why that's ma is a little strong for
that i didn't find anything in this that was like oh my gosh i can't believe they show it wasn't
there's nothing like that so anyway highly recommend it go check it out okay thank you yeah it's a
good one randy uh sent me up for what you got here on this clip well uh it's hard to explain um so uh you're
You're about to be taken back in time about 200 years, and you're going back to England 200 years ago,
and a fairly wealthy group of people are all sitting at the breakfast table.
They're having breakfast.
And again, the main character is quite a skeptic, and her little sister, or not little, but her younger sister,
has recently
encountered something that she's
very excited about
and they're talking about it.
All right, let the skepticism begin.
Good Lord, listen to this.
The lead Serby railway
was open yesterday with neither
ceremony nor incident.
What do you think about that, Mr. Washington?
They're popping up everywhere.
Country, we riddled with them.
Apparently, railways are unhealthy.
They cause headaches and biliousness
and a cow exploded.
Sorry?
Apparently.
Good happen.
In Hereford, they won't catch on.
Tell me about this cow.
It exploded in Hereford.
Or was at Hartford?
Hampshire.
One of them.
It roared past at 15 miles an hour, and this cow must have, you know, exploded.
How?
From fright.
Shock.
Just the one?
Is that possible?
No.
So there's a whole herd of them?
I didn't say there was a whole herd of them.
And just the one explodes?
It might have been the only cow present.
I don't know, I wasn't there.
Well, if it was in a field on its own,
it's more likely to have been a pause, surely.
Whatever the sex of the beast,
however many were present, this one apparently exploded.
You're painting a very confused picture there, Marion.
Must have made a mess.
Do you think someone's been pulling your leg?
No, I think it's the dizzying effect of a carriage
with no horses pulling it,
travelling past at such abominable speed.
Oh, my God.
It seems like I love British stuff.
stuff. This seems great.
I promise you, despite what I'm about to tell you about this show, you will love this show.
Okay.
Okay.
So that was Sir Ann Jones.
She is incredible, but you probably haven't seen her in much if you haven't been watching British TV dramas for the last 20 years.
As the title character, Ann Lister, it's based on the true story of Anne Lister, a English landholder in the,
early 19th century
which is bizarre enough
her younger sister
was Gemma Wheelan
as Marion
you'll know Gemma Wheelan from
Game of Thrones and the first
couple of seasons she's the
younger woman who takes
over the Iron Throne up in the
not the Iron Throne
the Islands
oh shit I've completely
forgotten what the Greyjoy's sister
or no it's great the Greyjoy's sister no
the Greyjorn
Joyce. Oh, the great joy sister who's, yeah, the, yeah, I know her. She's great. In reality, Anne Lister was a truly remarkable human being who was an out lesbian in a time when that was just unheard of. And a traveler, she actually, in real life, she died at age 49 in Georgia, like that far away from the UK.
This is a dramatization.
There's a lot of extra fiction pumped into this thing.
But it is all about the wild events that must have occurred around a woman owning a significant piece of property near Halifax in England.
And what she does with her time and wealth and her energy.
she's the most energetic person that ever lived and it's just um it's a you know it's a it's a it's a bit of a soap opera it's not often as funny as the clip that i just shared with you but uh it's just it's a really cool show yeah gentlemen jack to say it again oh gentlemen jack oh yeah this is when my wife was eyeballing and saying she wanted to make sure to watch and i guess i didn't know it was out for some reason i thought it was still coming i guess it's out and um the first
season came out years ago, like
three years ago.
And it just went
unnoticed. And so
we watched at the time and really enjoyed it,
but then thought, well, they'll never make a
second season. And now we're
in the second season finally. And
I'm just hoping that, I'm hoping we get more.
I really hope we could get people to watch
this thing. So HBO will make another
season. Yeah. I, for some
reason, I thought it was brand new and not
yet here. I guess I saw an ad and went,
oh, that looks interesting. And then didn't think about it
sense that's good to know i'll tell her she's all it's all go for it watch it all sorts of really
interesting little roles uh sprinkled in around in the show um you know like she has uh she she is
having a relationship with uh a woman named anne walker who's played by sophy rundle um that's a that's a
main role but you you will have seen sophy rundle and other things she was in peeky blinders um
She was Ada Shelby in Pecky Blinders.
You'll,
you'll recognize her.
Oh,
yeah.
Okay.
I know her.
Just,
uh,
it's,
it's a pretty typical show overall.
Like,
it's got subplots and,
uh,
you know,
like every episode has,
you know,
so,
you know,
a whole story where at the end,
you're like,
ooh,
what's going to happen next?
Um,
but it,
it also,
like I say,
it's trying to mostly tell a true story,
which means that it's just,
just hard to believe sometimes, you know, because truth can be so stranger than fiction.
Sure.
I didn't realize, by the way, I was just looking at Gemma Wheelan's IMDB.
She does a bunch of video game voices.
I had no idea.
Well, I mean, you just heard her voice.
She's amazing.
Yeah, she's great.
I just always thought of her as Yara Greyjoy and I haven't really thought about her since.
You can't look away from her.
She doesn't get a lot of screen time in this, in Gentleman Jack, but, man, you just can't
look away from her. She's got a choice role
in this show. And she just
really lives it up. Yeah.
She's great. Is HBO Max?
Max? Yes, this is on HBO.
Again, this is
a in the, we're currently in the middle of
the second season. So if you start
watching it now, you can get
to the end by the time they put out
the last episode of the second season. She was
in that terrible Gulliver's Travels
Jack Black movie, but you can
ignore that. Forget that. Just look at all the other cool
stuff. Right. Plenty of other good things.
since then of all things
a bunch of people
that I think Scott's going to love in this show
a bunch of old English
actors oh I love it like they
come and go all over the place
her aunt the main character's
aunt is played by
an older actor named Stephanie Cole
and she's just phenomenal
like you would just like every time she's on the screen
she is like 90 years old
I don't know what how it's just
it's just a miracle everything she says and does yeah Amelia Bullmore is another one I love I love old people they're the best they're great especially old British people they're just cooler than us they got it going on these people that are old anyway oh yeah she was in this my wife loved Doc Martin she's all over that show yep yep I just like I think I thought about Scott a couple of times when there's because there's like plenty of scenes where the more middle aged or younger adults end up in college
conflict with the ancient people and they have to you know they have to go to someone's estate and sit down in their sitting room and talk to them yeah and then and you get this old actor playing someone who's had money all their life and comfort and just will not put up with what is happening right now yeah and those are just awesome scenes she's put she's been in um she's been in tv and movies since the year before i was born that's crazy uh well well well done these are all of course uh available
streaming on these various services and how will you keep track of all of it?
Well, Randy posts it up everywhere, including Twitter and over there on our
tadpole Facebook group, as well as the Discord, and just about everywhere else.
So follow him, Randy Deluxe on all those things.
And he will, of course, put it there.
It's also up on quicktms.org.
Quicktm.s.com.
Already up.
And go to HBO Max and watch the Italian job.
Oh, yeah.
From 2003.
Yeah, FilmSack this weekend.
I've downloaded it so I can watch it on the plane.
Oh, right.
Oh, I better check.
That's right.
We should make a quick note.
We're doing FilmSack on Monday instead of the weekend because Brian will be coming back from his trip,
but we're going to do it on Memorial Day.
When there's no TMS, we'll be recording that.
Not live.
Don't get too excited.
Don't worry.
But between now and then, Scott, you and I are going to do a little bonus.
Yeah, we are.
So good news.
Patreon is now happening over there at FilmSack.
FilmSack got its own Patreon, and already things are kicking over there.
there so if you want to check that out film sac or sorry patreon.com slash film sacs the place to go
go find out what benefits are there there's some stuff we haven't even like announced yet i got a
cool thing that all the top uh supporters are going to all have a chance to win i haven't talked
about that yet so the next episode of that show will be uh very informative and uh some brands working
on right a little hinty hinty mcinty pants over there anyway very exciting stuff happening check
Gotfilmsack.com for details.
Randy, it's always a pleasure.
It is. Love you guys.
You have anything else you want to say?
Oh, one more thing.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, bye.
Oh, oh, darn.
We lost it.
I'm sure it was real.
We've lost his feed.
Yeah, that's weird.
Hey, Sam Jane, check your internet.
What's going on there?
You guys have a...
It always seems to cut out the same place every week.
It's weird.
Can't explain that.
All right.
Let's get out of here.
A quick note that the show will be...
Well, no, we have shows tomorrow.
normal. Then Brian is leaving, so we will not have a normal PM. I'm going to come up with some
kind of stream or something that day. Mimi Carter and we are doing a play date on Monday, on Memorial Day
after FilmSack. Yep, so we're going to do Film Sack and then right after Film Sack, we'll do a playdate.
Hopefully Brian and Randy will join us. They don't have to, but if they want, they can.
We don't know what we're playing yet, but yes, all of that.
I think we were talking, we were saying that, you know, we've had enough demand for among us,
so. Yeah, so we'll do Among Us. I think Among Us would be perfect for that day.
so Friday I'll plan
Carter and I are going to stream something
We got all the free comic book day prints
We may do like a stream sign
While we sign we'll just chat with the chat room or something
I don't know something like that
I haven't talked to her but we'll work it out
Anyway so all that's coming up watch for that
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Brian, play a song.
What do you got?
Okay, I've got this, Scott.
This one goes out to Logan Swanger,
who goes by the name Coaster Rage in Discord and chat when he can make it.
He says, hey, Scotch and Bourbon,
with all the debate recently around Star Wars Day,
I wanted to cast my vote for the 25th,
the anniversary of the original release.
I may be biased because May 25th,
if also happens to be my birthday.
I remember finding a metal cover of the Imperial March growing up
that claimed to be from Metallica.
I can't seem to find that song anymore
and wonder if the covermaster can work his magic to find it.
If not, I'd love to hear electronic cover,
the Mandalorian theme or any other Star Wars cover.
Love the show, though, Logan.
Oh, this is very nice.
There, yes, exactly.
So, well, let's focus on your main request there, Logan.
Yeah, obviously, that thing came out,
And it was back when any parody on Napster was Weird Al Yankovic, and any heavy metal song was Metallica.
That's how it worked on Napster.
People credited stuff to who it sounded like as opposed to who the actual artist was.
That one, a little trickier to find, but I have another version that I think you're going to like as much.
And maybe you haven't heard this one before, but it's very Metallica in their symphonic, like that tour they did with the,
the symphony kind of style.
This is excellent.
This is the Imperial March by a band called Epica,
E-P-I-C-A,
from the classical conspiracy from 2009,
the Imperial March.
Ooh, very nice.
All right, that'll do it.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.
We're going to be.
And so on the
I'm going to be the
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
be there.
We're going to be,
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be.
We're going to be able to be.
We're going to be able to be.
We're going to be able to be.
So,
you know,
and so
I'm
I'm
We're going to be.
I'm going to be.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're going to be able to be.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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