The Morning Stream - TMS 2296: I've Seen Its Crack

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

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Welcome back to TMS. It is Thursday, May 26th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibbott. Hello. Hello, Brian Ibit, on the eve of your trip to Philadelphia. Eve of another trip, another month. Scott, another trip. Yeah.

Do they have the, they got the big bell, the cracked bell, or is that somebody else? They do. It's called the Liberty Bell, and it's there in Philadelphia. I mean, that's not the cracked bell? That's not the name? It's not the cracked bell. I remember when our forefathers cracked the bell for independence. Oops.

Are you guys going to see that, do you think, or what do you think? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Because Tina's never been to Philly. I've been to Philly. I've seen the bell. I've seen its crack. Yeah. I've seen Independence Hall.

I've seen the love sculpture. I've seen Sylvester Stallone and bronze at the top of the art museum steps. Where he ran up there, exactly, and then was immortalized. And then he froze because he looked directly at the art museum and froze and is now there forever. Yeah, he's never going away. unfortunately that's right yeah uh so the other thing i was going to say something else about philly uh it was this oh any fandom in the family for like 76ers or eagles or any of that any sports love no no okay none of that matters no unless they look like you know unless they're an easy bet on some weekend

when i'm placing bets yeah that makes sense i have no allegiances sir no what if you uh what if you you're walking down the street. I'm trying to think who's famous. Oh, what if uh, uh, the, the, the fresh air lady, uh, can't think of her name. She does, she, she records out of Philadelphia. Terry Gross. What if Terry Gross suddenly starts walking down the streets of Philadelphia and you'd be like, oh, hey, it's Terry Gross. I know what she sounds like. I don't know what she looks like. So I could, I could accidentally smear some cheese whiz on her from my, my whiz from my, uh, my cheese steak. Sure. And I would have no idea that, uh, that she's who I got. She only comes up to about your knee, by the way.

She only comes up to about your knee, by the way. She's very short. Oh, is she really short? Yeah. So, yeah, when you get your Philly cheese steak out there, you say Wizzwit. Oh, is that? So that's what you ask for? With cheese whiz.

Whiz. If you want cheese whiz on there, you say Wizzwit. So is that like saying with cheese? That's saying with cheese whiz. Because you can get it with cheddar or mozzarella if they have it, Provalone, whatever, but you don't want it with any of that stuff. Why wouldn't you say Witt whiz instead of Wizzwit? That's the weird thing.

I don't know why you say whiz. wit instead of wit whiz. That's weird. All right, whatever. Look, I... Like it's whiz with. Yeah. That's the way Yoda would say it.

If Yoda lived... Oh, you know what it is? Okay, I'll tell you why. Because it's not... It's adding onions. So, when you say whiz wet, you're saying cheese whiz and Witt onions.

Oh. Because otherwise you wouldn't cheese steak sandwich wouldn't onions want it? Oh, my Lord. Oh, that voice. so I don't know what to do with it. It's just sitting in my head now. It's horrible.

It's never going to leave. It's there forever. That's a Chris Brown thing. He's from that area. And so he says, make sure you order your Philly cheese steak. Witt, no onions want it. Oh, my Lord. All right.

Well, we're going to have great stories. But I want it with onions. I want it Wizz Witt. I want it Wizz cheese and Wizz onions. Yeah. So that's really weird. They just assume that it is onions because that's what else would it be. The Witt is onions.

Yeah, exactly. By the way, if I don't. If I don't acknowledge Claire and her all-caps diatribe in the chat room, she knew Wiswit, before I looked it up, she knew Wiswit meant cheese, whiz and Witt onions. How do you know that? Claire? How's that a thing in Ireland?

That sounds weird to me. It does seem like a weird thing for her to know, right? Yeah, it really does. Maybe there was a, I don't know, a line in the movie. I don't know. Yeah, some weird wormhole opened up between Belfast or, uh, or, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Not Belfast. Derry.

Not Derry. She grew up in Derry. Well, originally in Derry, yeah. Yeah. Wherever it is now. Between her and, uh, it is Belfast, yeah. Between Belfast and Philadelphia where, where. Maybe they're sister cities.

Are they sister cities maybe? I don't know. That sometimes happens. It's like, Oh, she watches, she watches food videos. Oh. So she watches Guy Fieri, you know, come in with his half second. video cuts and say, oh, this cheese steak sandwich is the bomb. I eat this on a flip-flop.

This is gangster. You know what you told me once? You told, I think it was you. You said, you talked about this like second and a half editing they do on that show or something. Yes, yes. And I remember being in a hotel sometime after that. And it occurred to me, oh, I'm watching one of these. Why don't I just kind of pay attention to the timing? So I had a little timer and I would time, you know, how long between each edit. And sure enough, the longest one, and it's always the same in every episode, the longest edit is about two seconds. And the two second ones are always when he's finally eating the thing and then groaning about it. And they just sit on his, like, chewing and his expression on his face.

But prior to that, it's like, all right, adding pepper, adding cheese, adding salt. All right, here's a little extra water. All right, here's what we mix this all together. And it's like, chichum, chich. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He, and Talley reminds us, he is actually a legit nice guy. Yes.

We're not making fun of that guy. talking down to him we think he's great but his show is a you know it's a fun stereotype we have fun with it he has fun with it clearly so he's the Chevy truck that has all the accessories on it basically is what he is he is he is an absolute genuine decent human being but he looked through the catalog and said yep uh naked girl mud flaps uh back light covers uh sticker uh Calvin ping like he's the truck he's the truck with every accessory on With a bed full of buffalo wings in the back. Right, exactly.

That's what he's falling. I eat that on a flip-flop. Did you ever really say to eat something on a flip-flop? That's one of his catchphrases, yeah. He said, Lord, I would not eat anything on a flip-flop. You're kidding? No, apparently. But, you know, if he finds a sauce or something that he really likes, he did it on a flip-flop.

Well, speaking of people with some monocum of fame. Some notoriety. Yeah, I'd just like to play, I'd like to play a tribute. to one Senator Ted Cruz. I'm not going to get into why. I'm just going to play it. Okay? So he's been in the news.

He's been saying things. And this is what I just like to play for him. Yeah, there's more. A little bit more. All right, there you go. That's for you, bud. That fart door opened. And that was the problem.

is that door to that fart. Yeah, just that one door. And that was the problem. Yeah, you get the one door to the fart. It's all you can do. Yeah, it's all. It's just fart. All right.

We got a couple of things I want to get to this morning. In fact, we'll just play this. Send and receive email. Received a couple of emails that I thought were good follow-ups. One's from Jeff Sire, old pal and Grafton, Ontario, Canada, north of Gilead escaping handmaids, always welcome, he says. Thank you, Jeff. Jeff, aka Bronco, says,

Scott and Brian, just wanted to comment on something Scott said about his dental work. He says, the quote is this, quote, so I freaked out for nothing because I didn't end up having to get the tooth out. Right, right. To be precise. He says, 99.9% of our freakouts are not useful to us. Have either of you ever thought, well, at least I had some warning of this dire event. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't had this incredibly useful time to worry about it, unquote, says Jeff Seyer. Well, Mr. Zen lord freaking Buddha man.

I'm glad you've found that balance. That's awesome. I think that's great. I wish I could do that more, but I dread dentist things. I just can't help it. It's a dentist. And I disagree. Like, part of me is freaking out about this MS-150 ride next month, right?

It's like, oh, my God, it's going to be grueling. It's going to be, what if the weather's bad? What, blah, blah, blah. Because I'm freaking out, and Wendy will absolutely back this up, because I'm freaking out, I'm doing the things that prepare myself for the ride. I'm doing extra long rides. I added an extra two miles onto my ride and saw a hawk that might have wanted to drop a snake on me yesterday. I don't know.

Yeah. But, you know, you do all these things and it's because you're freaking out. If you go into things and say, it'll all work itself out, you might not be as prepared as you normally would be. So I think freaking out does is useful to us. You need to have some motivation. Okay, look at it this way. Public speaking is probably a good one to narrow in on, right? Very good one, yes.

Let's say I'm doing, I got to get up and do an intro at Nurtacular, 2015, all right? I'm nervous, I'm freaking out because I know I got to do it. I don't. I always say Nurtacular 2023 just to be safe. But go ahead and let's say, yeah, yeah, it's a good point. You know, I really, I just loved 15. 15 was like a high point. Okay, all right, all right.

Just love that year. Even though that was the year that Veronica and Jury and Shwood gave you the most shit for uh oh my god for stuff they were never never again by the way they were terrible they were terrible that year but anyway um mean to me they were i didn't think it was fair for the record but anyway so uh you know getting up and doing that if i was just kind of yeah whatever it'll just get up there here i don't think that's good i think it's good that you're a little bit like all right well i want to do this right it's going to be a lot of intense eyeballs on me i want this to go well and you know i i don't want to just phone it in so i think that's

that there's some value to that. The problem is people that catastrophize, catastrophe. Fyes. Yeah. Catastrophies. Fyes. Not size. Fies. It is fine. Fies. It is fattestrophies because it's catastrophe, not catastrophe. Not catastrophe.

But wait, what if I want it to be catastrophe? Because that's great. That's a cool name. I'm experiencing a real catastrophe right now, Scott. It's just something sounds wrong about it. Anyway. Catastrophize. It just sounds weird, doesn't it? It's like, may the fourth be with you, just throwing me.

Anyway, so it's when you do that where you're like, well, I just know this, you know, my house is going to explode tonight because I smelled gas earlier or whatever. Like, as human beings were meant to have warning signs. We're meant to go, ah, there could be a saber tooth here. Like, we've evolved to be prepared or nervous. And then we act accordingly. I think what Jeff's probably getting at is, you know, we. You probably, I do do this. I think worst case scenario, partly because I know it won't happen.

But it's not good for me, you know. So he's, he's right in that way. But, Jeff, you got to have some, you know, you can't just sit around. Yeah, exactly. It's the, you know, it's the tensing up before the fall or the, the, I know, there's some, there is some, there are some benefits to some kinds of freakouts. Yeah. Although, if you were super stoned or drunk,

and you were falling and you didn't tense up, you might not get as hurt. No, that's true. That's what they say, that that's why babies do so well in car accidents because they don't tense up and they're less likely to break bones. Yeah, and the guys are drunk. Also because they're much better drivers than adults. Yeah, that's true. They shouldn't, you know, they shouldn't be driving. They wreck a lot, but, but yeah.

Drunk drivers always come out cleaner usually because I hate that, but they come out less hurt or less injured or less dead because they tend to, they tend to be more relaxed when they crash. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm coming around to you there, Jeff. Not saying everyone gets stoned or high. I'm just saying, you know, just. Yes, please, please don't. Find balance. By the way, I'm all checked in for my flights.

Oh, fantastic. Woo! That's great. We'll see where I end up. I mean, I know where I end up. I'm B-45, so we'll see that that's usually like, all right, there, we're going to be near the back of the plane. I got no problem with that.

Put me in the back, whatever, as long as the very, very, like the last row that by the toilets. Thank you very much. Sure. But we should have no problem getting either a window middle or aisle middle. So, eh, no problem. That's fine. You don't want to be next to the can, though. That's no good.

I don't want to be next to the can. Like, middle seat doesn't require it next to the can? Thank you very much. No. No, that's why. It's an old joke from an old friend of mine who basically says that, you know, when you're sitting there at the check-in desk, back in the day when you always had to check-in for your flight, you couldn't do it online.

you had to check in at the airport for your flight. You're sitting there and they're going on their keyboard. Yes, okay. And where are you flying to? Oh, okay. All right, a little seat. Back row. Doesn't recline.

Near the toilet. Okay, sir, here's your ticket. And then someone does like they did to a lane and slap a sticker on the luggage that says, Hawaii, and they shove it in the other thing. Well, anyway, another email from Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Okay. Different, not Jeff Seyer, but a Jeffre.

Jeffrey. Jeffrey, different guy. It says, hey, Scott, I talked to a friend of mine. This is about the target throwing all the bicycles and the dumpsters. All the bikes in the dumpster, yeah. He has an explanation. He says, I talked to a friend of mine whose wife or a friend of mine's wife who worked for a target for several years in the 90s and early 2000s. She told me the reason they stopped donating merchandise was twofold.

So actually, I guess they did and then they stopped. here are the reasons. First, they donated some merchandise to give away at a fundraiser for kids' organizations. One of the items broke and a child got hurt. Target got sued for quite a lot of money and lost. The manufacturer couldn't be sued because the item was not sold. So I guess that makes that law different to if it was sold, then it would have been the manufacturer's liability.

If it's just given away by the retailer, it's there. That's interesting, right? Because sometimes those. floor models or like those might have been floor models that they tossed in the dumpster yeah they sold all of the the boxed up ones and they can't control like what people may have done inadvertently to the floor models that hmm right there's always more to this stuff than we think that's what that's what i'm learning here there's always more always more than you think on the surface of something anyway they then go on to say uh secondly at around the same time they donated a bunch of toys to

charity which provided daycare for working mothers in an area or an inner city area What they had found was that daycare had allowed the kids to take the toys home in boxes, and the parents who turned them to Target for full refunds. You know what? Fine. That's like, I mean, that kind of sucks for Target, but. Yeah. What that tells me is people need money is what that tells me.

It tells me people need money and maybe Target, before they donate, need to do something to the box, like cross out the UPC code or something that. And, uh, listen, Target's, uh, return policy is notoriously, uh, easy to, to fudge anyway. There was some comedian who once said, uh, you can take things that you can't, you can't even buy a target back to Target for a refill. Yeah, they'll swap. They're pretty, they're pretty open about that stuff. Uh, he finishes by saying at that point, the corporation decided to only make cash donations to charities. Um, I think I understand all that. But if I were target, I had lobby for a change in that law about liability. It still feels like it's wasteful.

So wasteful, yeah. Those bikes could have easily been given. And something, you just do something. Maybe you donate them to a bike store that can check them out, like, make sure they're good and not damaged or going to cause problems. And then that bike store donates them. And, you know, and then you guys split the tax ride off or something. Yeah, something. I don't know what, there's just got to be a solution that isn't throwing them all in a dumpster.

It's just, it's just so wasteful. And that just comes down to it probably just a regulatory slash law problem. So fix that and you're golden or give them to Walmart. Maybe Walmart wants to sell them, you know? Sure. Maybe just give it to your lesser cousin Walmart and let them deal with it. How about that? Your lesser cousin.

Brian, so we do tadpilly feud on Wednesdays and I guess, you know, we're at the end of a line on our current survey. Pretty close. Yeah, I've got one question left that I can use. technically I've got two, but I'm going to be honest. One of them is going to be difficult to use as much as I would like to. You want to know what it is? I'm not going to end up using it. Okay.

What is it? The question is, name your favorite Scott Johnson metaphor. Now, this was submitted by a listener, and then I put it in the last survey, not the current survey. Yeah. But the last survey. And there's so much in here. Number one, 594 answers. And 200 and almost 300 people passed.

So about half of the people passed answering this question. Or put something like too many to think of. I can't remember any. And then a lot of people just decided, metaphor, that means anything. So like, that really burns my cheese is a, or grate my cheese. I think burns my cheese is when I say all the time. Yeah. A lot of people put something relating to plums.

which is that is a metaphor right having no plums or leaving no plums is kind of a metaphor of something i guess so it's more of a just more of a repeat of the riddle riddle yeah so uh both somehow somebody felt was a both is not a metaphor is metaphor uh pulling the johnson okay that's a metaphor i'll give you that yeah that's fine uh hold onto your butts not a metaphor no uh let's see no make an outer kiss touching butts that's not a metaphor it's just advice no uh the couch is burning, but you only want to focus on the clean windows. It's a great metaphor, but I don't remember you ever saying that, but I believe you. Oh, strawful of marbles, great marbles, great... Oh, my strawful of marble, yeah. Like memory. Putting the horse in front of the cart,

you've said many times, it's the way it's supposed to be. Chester the Tiger, not a metaphor. Man-weener, not a metaphor. No. Max Fury Road. Definitely not a metaphor. No, that's just a movie. Ship potatoes. That's just a free freaking movie and a shit potato is just an angry or is just me trying to not drop the f bombs all that is uh pleasure not a metaphor no uh fart blood okay maybe uh maybe uh maybe anyway so parking lot tacos not a metaphor so the problem was going to be twofold number one

it was going to be trying to sort these all out into like uh uh you know an answer that would be usable Yeah. And then number two of obviously the bigger problem was explaining before you guys even gave your first guess that 80% of the tadpool doesn't know what a metaphor is. You guys struggle with that term, do you? Since it seems like. Yeah. And these are just a list of dumb things Scott says. That's the category.

Yeah, that's probably the way the question should be. Name your favorite dumb things Scott says. Yeah, why not that? But then we need to give people a choice because otherwise there's too many variations and things that I'd have to sort through. That would have taken me hours to go through and turn into a list. But, thankfully, we have 16 questions right now that can be answered without a whole lot of fuss. If you go to tiny.cc slash tadpool survey, and you can capitalize that any way you want. But I just, you know, do it all lowercase, just to be safe.

Somebody's going to like, I typed capital vowels and it didn't work. But I did one where it's like capitalized tadpool and... the survey capitalized just tadpool everything lowercase uh anyway tiny dot cc slash tadpool survey and uh and don't you go there you don't need any advanced knowledge on what the questions are scott yeah i'm not looking i did bring it up for the chat to see but i'm not looking at that okay good uh and don't worry i like i've got probably over a hundred submitted survey questions from everybody, but rather than do a big 80 question survey that feels massive and painful for everybody, we'll just do these quarterly and I'll do like 16, 16 or so questions.

Okay. I was going to say if it was helpful, I would send that URL to my 82 year old mother and she could test the caps thing since that's all she types in, but Claire, Claire is like my 82 year old mother and did it for us. She'll test that. All caps didn't twerk. All right. Okay, great. Well, that's great. Again, tiny dot CC slash tadpool survey, everybody at home, even when you're not here live, those episodes that we have so much fun with on Wednesdays, you can be a part of it by answering the survey.

That's right. And so many people ask Jeannie every single day, how do I get to the tadpole survey? Where's the tadpole survey? Where's the server? How do I submit a song request? I didn't get an invite to the most reason survey. Well, here's your invite, people. this voice we've given that voice yeah it's the general tadpool voice is uh general tadpool

i didn't get a tadpole survey it's excellent use of our uh accidental accidental voices i don't know what i'm saying hey i do know this though look at this everybody this music right here this means something welcome everybody uh amy red fraggle back to the show talking books and uh what we should be reading in fact the segment's called read this with amy amy welcome come back. Oh, good morning. How are you guys doing? Good. How are you? Oh, groovy. How are you? Yeah. Oh, you know, I've had, I've had about a similar week to most mothers in this country this week, I think. So, I'm not going to dwell on that, I promise. However, I have to tell a story. Oh, I'd like to hear a story. And let's hear a story. It's a picture is 2012. It's December of 2012.

All right. I have just gone through a very contentious divorce and custody battle. And my ex, who is from South Africa, has taken the kids on a vacation to South Africa. And there's this little nagging feeling in the back of my head that I'm not 100% sure he's going to come back with him. Oh, geez. Then my husband says, oh, my God, somebody shot up the elementary. school that I went to. Whoa.

He went to he went to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook. Really? Geez. Yeah. And so he actually, he was like glued to it all day long because he had people that he knew had kids that went to that school.

Now, none of them were any of the kids that were killed. But that was like super stressful time. So this week I have been not so mentally great. So on that note, I was like, I just could not pull my crap together at all to come up with like, you know, a good clip or anything like that. So I thought instead what I'm going to do is I'm going to read a section of a book from, it is it is a children's book by an author from Newtown, Connecticut.

it. And it is a book that my husband gave me. So without further ado, I like this. I'm actually really looking forward to this. All right. You take it away as you as you will. Adam looked up at the golden cock on the church steeple. Jeez. Tell me, he said. Will the soldiers come today? Will they march up the hill? Adam and the cock were friends. The boy knew it if the cock did. After all, the cock lived high in the air and he was covered with gold. Not guilt, but real gold. Nothing less. Every morning, Adam looked up at the cock. Did he swing to the north? To the south? To the east or to the west? The way the wind was blowing told something about the weather. The golden cock looked small against the sky. But if Adam and the cock

had been standing together on the ground, the cock would have been the taller. And if the cock had been on the ground, Adam would have seen the bullet holes in him. There was one even in his proud gold tail feathers. So that is from... Wow. It's like you pick that specifically for Scott. I feel a little shut out. Yeah.

So here's what I will tell you. I was struggling with this. always i was like man i don't know what book to pick for this week and i've just got no mental capacity and so you guys all love chuck right you can you can thank chuck for this one we do love chuck is great because chuck went i've got it i've got the answer it's a children's book and it's got the word cock all over so wait we're going to assume here that this children's book features a rooster a golden rooster of some sort that's what we're talking about i mean i don't know what anybody else is thinking. Yeah, I don't know what all their dirty little minds were thinking, but

it does indeed. What's the name of this book? The name of this book is Adam and the Golden Cock by Alice Dalglish. And I apologize, I did not look up how to pronounce her last name, but I'll put it in the, I'll put it in the discord and everything. The interesting thing is that the golden cock is a real thing. It is at a steeple in a church in Newtown, Connecticut. And, yeah, so the story is actually about the American Revolution and Roche Mbeau and his troops coming through. Like, that's why Adam says at the very beginning, like, will the soldiers come today? You know, and so it's basically it's about this little boy and, you know, this constant thing that was this weather vein shaped like a golden cock. Nice. Nice.

You know, it's a charming little story, but it's hilarious to read it because seriously, like it's like it's like reading something on the campus of the university of South Carolina man it's like yep see it's a real thing Adam in the Golden Cock Adam and the Golden Cock I love the art let's see the artist's Leonard Weisgaard did the illustrations for this and I really like that style it's very it's an old style like because this book came out in what 59 or something yes 1959 is when it came out and yeah all the illustrations in the book are They're in that style where it's very, like, you know, he's using white, black, and gold.

Like, that's it. And they're, you know, lovely little illustrations. And it's, it's just a little kid's book. Back then, those were, that was more about the limitation of the printing process. But artists would use that to their stylistic advantage and say, well, I got three colors to work with. So I'm going to make this really contrasty and cool. Makes it really cheap for the printer. Yeah.

Yeah. It's almost kind of a, like I kind of, I don't know, there's a, there's a certain look to 40s, 50s and 60s era art, pop art and stuff that I just cannot get enough of. And it's always like this monochromatic, you know, way less use of color. Often the colors are shifted off a little bit and they shouldn't be something about that time is totally fascinating to me. Comics are really weird that way as well. Well, if you're going to, if you're going to read this book to your child, I would say invest in a soundboard app and replace the word cock with a Yeah, with a chicken ride every single time. That's a great idea.

Exactly. Yeah. Or otherwise. As action news continues, it's round the cock clock coverage. Yeah, you're going to get round the cock coverage and you don't want that. Well, that's great. There's nothing wrong with this. Let's recommend it.

Adam and the Golden Cock available pretty much everywhere. Good reads has it at almost a full five-star rating. people love it. It's old, but who cares? If you can find a copy, oh, it looks like Amazon's got, let's see, you can actually buy it for 38 bucks for the library binding or the paperback for 10 bucks. It's still a thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and the copy that we have is actually purchased from a collection from the Baltimore County Public Library. So there you go. It was just a thing like Chuck, Chuck decided he wanted to have a copy of it. So he went and, you know, Got it from a book finder.

And there's like all these little notes from some little kid back in the day. It says, this book belongs to, and there's a little boy's name in there. Oh. So it's cute. Yeah. This book belongs to Harry Peters. Harry Peters. Very nice.

That's a perfect name for someone to own the golden cock. Very nice. Well, well done. I love it. This is great. And also nothing wrong with a little children's book reading, everybody. I love reading. Just needed a little pallet cleanser.

Yeah. I like that. It was a good, good light thing for today. I appreciate that. I agree. My wife and daughter, is Carter in the chat? I don't want to throw it under the best. They were up there crying today over this still because it's horrible.

And, you know, we're getting new details that are making it worse. And so they're super upset. And I don't know. I kind of needed this. So you did a really nice thing for us, the listeners and everybody. That was really nice. Well, I'm glad. Well, I have to agree.

I was also, you know, shedding some tears this morning as well. So I was glad to have this as a way to like, like I said, just give everybody a little giggle. And because we're all 12. That's right. We're all 12. And there's nothing wrong with that. Okay. Enjoy your 12-year-old mentality as you age, everyone.

It's Amy Robinson, aka Red Fraggle 3, wherever you want to find her. She's a good TikTok follow, by the way. Go follow her there. Yeah, go. Okay, so I tried. I made a thing. Oh, yeah. I posted it to the... Very good thing, by the way. Did you snap? Half the country with this. I snapped.

You snapped. Oh, see, this is the problem. You snapped. So sorry, everybody listening home, you noticed a weird break there. That was me losing power very briefly. And now I'm back. And you were, Amy, you were right in the middle of talking about how the, how Discord. Was it Discord or who was, somebody's meeting you? Not Discord. TikTok. Yeah. So I made, I made a video. with a peepers puppets

dancing around to the TMS theme and TikTok muted it and I don't understand why because it's Eric Van Skyhawks music theme. You know, there's nothing and you gave it to me so I'm like what, but it said it was a copyright

violation. So anyway, I'm going to as Brian very sagely. Oh, I know why. I just realized why. Do you want to know why? I just figured it out. Yes. Yes. Eric. So even though Eric gives us full rights on that thing. Well, this doesn't makes sense, though, because YouTube doesn't mute it. Well, whatever. But he's technically released the track on an album that is available on, like, Spotify and stuff like that, Apple Music. So you can get the ELR theme in a couple of ways. But that would, that should mean that, that YouTube should tell

me every time that I'm using it in violation. So the fact that TikTok is, who knows, man, they're just Yeah, I think it's very weird. I think honestly, I think the, I think their bot just says, hey, this is not a sound in our approved list of sounds, quote unquote. Yeah. So we're just going to mute it. Well, I'm going to play it now for the chat to see it. So people at home, you're not going to be able to see this, but these are some peepers playing some fun business.

So here goes. You know what my favorite thing is. is the occasional chuck arm yeah well i like that too because you can always tell how hairy it is but the the one of these peepers has green green eyes yeah so they blend into the green screen that's pretty great anyway yeah screw tick tock they don't know what they're known yeah although anyway i posted it i posted it i posted a link to it to the discord i'll also i'll see if youtube will let me put it up and um i'll i'll post it to the the frog pants uh facebook group also so people can see it.

So we're not going to miss it. Wow, that's awesome. Amy, always good to talk to you. Sorry about the weird glitch. And may your week be better in all the right ways. And may we see you next week in the same capacity as we see you now. Oh, well, you will see me on Monday because I'm going to come and.

Oh, right. You're going to be part of the deal. Yeah, sweet. No, that's good. We can use your dastardly tricks in the game of Among Us. You're pretty suss already. It's Amy Robinson, everybody. Red Fraggle 3, wherever you can find her.

We'll see you later, bye. See ya. All right. Oh, I hate disruptions like this because I feel out of whack. Yeah. All right. Let's see here. Where that frick are we?

Oh, you know what? We have time for one news story. So we're going to do one. Okay. Oh, all right. Yeah. That's how it's going to go. If I can find it.

Where is it? It's this it? It's the news and it's brought to you by. Under the Library is an actual play podcast of Call of Cthululu mature. Oh, let me rephrase that because I thought that was going to be like a sub-title of it. Under the Library is an actual play podcast of Call of Cthulhu, mature themes, immature people. If you'd enjoy watching Silence of the Lambs while roasting marshmallows in your furry suit, catch Under the Library anywhere you get your podcast.

Very, very nice. That's very cool. Very cool. Some ancient poop revealed that the builders of Stonehenge like to eat And what they like to eat rather So now we know what they ate All right We still don't know how Stonehenge happened

We don't know how they got it done Like how they get those big rocks over there Anything like that but we know what they ate We know what they ate Right and maybe that'll prove there finally will know their aliens for sure Who knows I mean wasn't it fish and chips I'm assuming it's fish and chips

It's almost always fishing chips Ancient poop found at the side of the prehistoric village near Stonehands. You've been there. You've been there. Yeah, I have been there twice. Once, is a 16-year-old, 15-year-old turning 16 with my dad. And then Tina and I went back there in 1998. Yeah.

And we spent too much time at the restaurant in the close town, which I think is Chichester. Oh, I might be wrong about that. and we spent too much time in there there's like a mummified hand holding a set of cards that the story is that it was cut off oh right yeah and then I got accosted by a Romani or a traveler I'm not going to use the other term that's the negative term and she put up she said she was

cursing me oh and we spent too much time in that town we got to the bus and realized oh my god Stonehenge closes in 30 minutes and so we got to Stonehenge and we sprinted around the circumference of Stonehenge and we stopped Salisbury. That's it. Thank you. T.R.P.W. We sprinted around Stonehenge and we stopped at all the cardinal points, north, south and east and took pictures of Stonehenge as we ran around. Wow. I remember this story and I remember thinking, you're in there. It's not like you're going to go, Matt's okay. We'll do it next time. Who knows the next time you're going to be over there, right? Yeah, who

knows. I mean, we definitely are going to go back to England at some point. We love old smoking. We love that part of the world. Did Tristan go with you as a baby or what happened there? He's never, he's never been. So if we go again, we absolutely have to take Tristan. Yeah, he'd love it. Well, anyway, here's the deal. They feasted on the internal organs of cattle.

That's what they ate. Okay, because that's what you do. Not just their, you know, they're meat, but they're like contestants. No, so haggis, basically, right? Yeah, kind of, except cattle in this case. but yeah. Several pieces of fossilized poop, which scientists call caprolytes. Corporalites. They should call it.

Crapolites. Yeah, they should. Yeah. He's run earth from a refuse heap at the settlement known as Durrington Walls, just 1.7 miles or 2.8 kilometers from Stonehenge. Village dates back to around 2,500 BC when much of the imposing document in Southwest England was constructed. five pieces of pooh, okay, from one human and four dogs were found to contain eggs of parasitic worms. So they had parasites.

It's a bummer. Yeah. The human poop and three of those dogs contained the egg of a capillared worm. I think is how you say it. Identified part of their lemon shape or identified by their lemon shape. The presence of this type of worm indicated the person had eaten the raw or undercooked lungs or liver from an already infected animal, which would result in parasitic eggs passing

straight through to the digestive system and then, you know, feasting on the human. According to the new study of the fossils. These worms infect cattle and other ruminants because that's what they're a ruminant, you know. Suggesting that eating cattle was the most likely source of the parasite. The study says dogs may have also fed on leftovers

is how they got it. However, bones dug up from the trash chips to suggest to the cattle weren't the most commonly consumed animals, some 90% of the 38,000 bones on earth were from pigs and 10% cattle. So they are mostly pork people. That's right. A little pork, a little brisket. And they were still trying to, they were refining their haggis recipe.

They didn't have any sheep, but they were refining their haggis recipe. They were still using livestock, just not the right livestock. Yeah, they'll get there. They'll get there. Yes. And they did get there. But they did. Those parasites are horrible, though.

It's basically a lifelong diarrhea time. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. My sister Wendy will be joining us. And we're going to talk about, I'm going to remember what we did on here. Oh, we got some responses to that whole burnout question that she asked last time. Remember that? Oh, right.

Yeah, good. Excellent. Oh, I can't wait to revisit that. Yeah, this would be good. So that's coming up right after this. Okay, Flair, settle down. I know Haggis is Scottish. My goodness.

She's really, look, she's got a bone to pick. He's emboldened by that whole whizwit thing, the whole cheese whiz, cheese steak sandwich thing that, man, you give her, yeah, give her an inch and she takes a mile. She takes a kilometer. She'll push down that capslack button and leave it there fortnightly. All right, we're going to take a break. Wendy, we'll be here after the break. The song is what we need for the break. What is the song for the break?

Yeah, all right. It's a band called FlipTurn. These guys, this album captures two stories. one out of Houston and one out of Brooklyn. This is their double single. So they released two singles just recently, Halfway and Brooklyn Baby. Brooklyn, Baby. This tells the same tale of a relationship coming apart, thread by thread, city by city.

So they wanted to release the two tracks together for obvious reasons. The band is called FlipTurn. Here is the song Halfway. We'll be right back. You used to hold my soul, or you held my soul, or you held my soul. You used to have control. Oh, you love me so I used to roam around

Used to kiss my mouth Now you never come around Oh you never come along Is I can't change anything about me, but I won't brand anything for you. We were halfway that you stood and I didn't care. Still smell your lips, I still taste your taste your head. your hair and I did not love you and I was away maybe I used you and I was almost there

You're gonna sink yourself Baby it's not that deep I was gonna pull you out She tried to leave So go ahead now I remember I can't forget What you told me

What you say? I can help you to you love yourself Because I can't change Anything about me When I won't blame anything for you We were halfway to Houston

And I didn't care Still smell your lips I still taste your hair And I did not love you And I went away Maybe I used you And I was almost there Oh, I'm almost there.

Ooh. Mm-hmm. My name. My name is Randy Atkins, producer of this video. My name's Randy Atkins, producer of this video, the modern goat. A goat is healthy when it defecates in firm little round balls and has bright brown, clear urine. This is the morning... Oops, shit.

How lucky we had a guy talking about goats and poop. That's funny. I know. Did not plan that. Referential. Anyway, hey, remind me that song again that we heard. Oh, I'd be happy to. This is one half of the double single that Flipturn just released.

This is Side 1, which is Halfway. You flip that thing over and you get the song Brooklyn Baby, both telling the same tale, it's great. That was Halfway by Flipturn. Nice. Hey, Nikki Ackermans, if you're listening to the show, could you? You probably do some sheep study stuff. What's their history over there? What's the deal with the sheep, man?

Did they... What's the actual question you're asking? I just want to know what the deal is, man. What's the deal with these sheep over there? What's the deal with sheep? Give us the up or down on the sheep, you know? Because that's what she does, right? I think she'd give them the thumbs up.

She's a big fan of sheep. Oh, yeah, she does like the sheep. That's true. Her field of study. You know, maybe maybe like she'd know when Haggis was first introduced. Exactly. That's what we need to know. We need to know these things. We're getting educated here.

Very good. Yes. Wendy Incoming. Let's get her in here. Sure. Get her thoughts, her feelings, her takes, her hot takes. All of these are great things. That she provides. It's like a nutritional brain fart coming down the thing. Let's see if that works out. Everyone knows it Wendy.

Look who it is this morning. It's my sister, Wendy, who is also a therapist, psychologist, and someone who helps people with real problems all the time, comes on Thursdays and does that for you guys right here on the show. Wendy, welcome back. Thank you. Nice to have you here. How are you?

Glad to be here. Yeah. You're very formal today. You're feeling very formal? Yeah, you're a little. Oh, yeah. No? No, okay, not formal.

All right. Sometimes you know you have to fake it, you're like, yes, let's do this when you're like, oh, I want to nap. Yeah, I know, right? And plus it's later there. It's like, no, you're only an hour after us, right? Yeah. 11.05. That's not that bad.

11. Nap time. Well, kids get off to school. Take a freaking nap. Take a nap. Exactly. I'm going to be doing one of those later today because I couldn't sleep last night. So I think maybe around.

She's two nights in a row. I know. I, dude, I couldn't. And you know what's weird? I wasn't even thinking about Wendy this morning. morning, but I woke up this morning and I heard this, that song in my head, the full version of it going, and I had the whole thing going all morning. I'm whistling it, singing it. Kim's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. I wonder what

the association is. Must be that Wendy's on today. I have no idea. Well, anyway, here I am. Yeah, it's good to have you. You put out a question last time we spoke about people and burnout and stuff like that. And we got some answers. We got some replies. And so we're going to read this one here from somebody called A. I think this is the second email you forwarded to me. This is the one about burnout and the pandemic. So I'll read it. It says, hello, Wendy Scott and Brian. You brought up the topic of burnout in a recent episode. And I cannot help but email in. The pandemic at large has been an experience. I gained a liking to baking that I've kept up making bread every week. I kept running through it every single day over three years now, and in some ways it gave me focus.

At the same time, it's completely hollowed out my relationship with family as they went down the COVID denial route. This comes alongside financial fear early in the pandemic when I had saved a little and worked in an industry that looked uneasy. Though that worked out all right for a time, until this last fall when our workloads exploded, but we look on to new staff to handle it. let's see leading to some of our people to leave at this point i'm debating leaving the job myself my position leaning into work uh let's see leaning into work i have no interest in and management that is in no way responding to my disinterest while my physical self has weathered the pandemic all right negligible weight gain this whole time mentally i'm very defeated um it's this burn is this burnout or something else and where do you even begin to try and break this down to manage manageable steps

to move on. Any help is appreciated. Somebody named A. Well, that was a good place as any to start. Geez, yeah. A lot of stuff to unpack there. Yeah. And I also, I don't know, there's something universal about parts of the pandemic actually being weirdly beneficial in some ways.

I felt this a little bit. I felt like I was able to kind of, I don't know, look inward a little more, be a little more present with the people in my immediate surroundings. be more mindful of you know someone next door needs help this kind of stuff but but on in some larger ways even even in some personal larger ways boy have I had one of these kinds of falling outs with a bunch of people like just found myself on the opposite end of a of a weird world and I just thought and I don't know if that contributes to this thing that we're talking about which is burnout or not but I'll let you take it from there where do you where you want to go with

this. Yeah. Well, a couple things. Yeah. There's a lot going on in there. Number one, I just want to answer the A's question. The big one, is this burnout? So maybe let's distinguish a couple things, different types of burnout. And then we'll get to the one I think is globally happening for most people, or is a little more global. So you can sort of get burned out on anything you're doing right so you know just the general term like you hit the wall right that's one of our phrases like you're just going along and you smack into this wall and you just cannot keep going you cannot keep doing this thing so you run out of energy motivation you know all those things can happen in your work can happen in a relationship it can happen in a project you started

that you used to love and find lots of joy in and it's just like you can't you can't do it anymore. And so you can, you know, find it in lots of different places. But the very specific thing and the diagnosably problematic thing is ultimately brain burnout, not just like, oh, I'm sick of this project, right? Yeah. Because if it's very specific to one thing, you wouldn't also be feeling it somewhere else. Like, I'm burned out on this project, but you still enjoy your social life after work, right?

the challenges and americanism is in particularly problematic in all sorts of ways but one way in particular is that we are we work our lives are so revolved around work we work a ton we don't know how to turn that off it's all like hustling constantly right so it is so integrated with who we are how we see ourselves you know i don't know the studies between you know sort of different countries with the different ethos but like a job for someone in America is like a loss of identity, loss of direction, you know, where someone else might see it as, you know, it's not, this is not a black and white line by any stretch. But as a general rule, we're kind of, you know, we get our two weeks of your vacation

and do you really think that's how humans work well, right? But if you're always hustling and there's always some new thing, right, you know, and you've always felt energized up to a certain point. To have that go away can be very scary or the loss of a job or something that like your identity, you know, your identity gets thrown because so much of your energy and time go to thinking about work. So that's pretty common that you'll burn out at work and then it affects other things. And then sometimes like a job shift, you might feel totally different and have different experiences. That's kind of what this person's asking. Like, hey, is this my job or is this brain burnout? So I'm just going to use the term brain burnout for the

general burnout. Okay. So, so let's pan. I'm going to break it down to how people experience it and go through how, what mild symptoms look like for different types of folks and then just like how we know it's, it's serious. Because there's, I have sort of two thesis here. One is, yes, the pandemic is tricky and has caused lots of challenges.

And you, you went from having maybe, you know, some level of social trust. with your neighbors and your family members that it's disintegrated more and more, right? And that's, that is a absolute strain on anyone's system to have a person you thought was sort of safe, suddenly saying crazy stuff that makes them feel really unsafe and like you can't have a conversation and all of that goodwill you used to have and feel is gone is, is traumatic. That is, that's a significant loss. And that can be one relationship. And for some of us, that's many relationships that this has happened to, right?

Right. So you've got to recognize. So my thesis here is like, okay, there's the strain of working constantly, the not having the outlets we used to have to sort of counterbalance some of that. Maybe it is in the job loss during the pandemic or your industry got shut down or your, you know, all of the ups and downs for you. So whatever that may have looked like is going to have that impact. But then we also have this social trust that's lost.

Then we also have this third thing. And this is kind of underlying a lot of this, I think, is just the trauma that everyone has gone through. And maybe at other times in history, there's more collective sense of that we're all been through something. But, you know, with the ubiquity of how we can see what's happening anywhere in the world, we can get traumatized any minute of any day vicariously through the news, right? through hearing some terrible story or whatever it might be, right? So we have this like constant barrage of hard things that we aren't really built well to handle. And if our way of handling it is the usual way of like working harder or ignoring or going down our conspiracy

rabbit holes to make us feel like we have power or control, right? Like we're a mess. Like collectively we're a hot mess. And so this will also add to burnout. So, you take anyone who's been through something traumatic, they are not going to be able to just go back and do their job like nothing happened, right? We could see this on an individual level and really understand it. I don't think we have a full grasp on seeing it as a collective. I don't know about you, but Tuesday was really traumatic. It's, yeah.

I can't even start talking about it. Yeah. Yeah, my, yeah, the house. The house is a gloomy, gloomy place. right now. I don't know. Yeah. We should probably have an entire episode on that particular brand of grief because we haven't talked about it.

I don't think since maybe Sandy Hook or maybe there's been others, but I feel like it's a, it needs to come up again, you know? It does. It can't be this week for me because I can't. I know. I can't either. But let's give it a week. Let's give it some time.

And then, you know, maybe next week we can hit this thing. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, when you have a fourth grader, it's, it's a, I know, it's super personal. too close to home yeah i don't even want to think about like i was just looking at my phone there's a pitcher van on here and i'm like you're almost old enough to go to a school like that like freaking geez anyway so so we'll let's put that later but it does accumulate it does have an impact it does tear down sort of kind of behind the scenes right so like doom scrolling is a term that

came out i don't know officially when it did but that's what everyone was doing for years and still does to probably some extent. I think people have figured out they can't do it. It's depletes them too much or, you know, try to find ways to balance that sort of steady stream of things that are so outside the normal delusion we all live under. You know, it's like breaking the glass that protects you from feeling all of that just too frequently, right? So we have like that very immediacy of that social trust being hurt, that larger scale social trust.

I find myself like counting in my head, all the good people I know, like it's more. There are more good people than not good people. They're more. Like it's my brain's just like, here, here, let's do the math. We can find the math. And I think, you know, we have all our ways of compensating. And a lot of us use escape. and a lot of us use, you know, I think we drank a whole hell of a lot more than we ever did

as at least as Americans in the last two years. There's lots of studies that are going to show we're not okay, right? But we don't necessarily have the skills. We don't have the ways to handle it on a more community-based level, maybe within the families, right? So it's tricky. So you take all of this, put this on a person whose job is also such a huge, part of who they are, and required for survival, because there is no safety net for you, and people are relying on you. And it's chaos. Like, there's a lot of chaos. I joked about this, but it feels really apropos, but there was this center. I can't remember if it was at the University of Virginia. That's not right. Anyway, don't quote me on that. But it's like a center

for peace and communication and reconciliation. And they have so much in fighting. They've had to, like, dissolve it. And you're like, what the? You know, it's just really a lot. And so I think if you're not burned out, you have not been paying attention. So I should say that. I think the other thing too is so like A's question with jobs is the previous experience a lot of us have had is you switch a job, things get better, right? You end a relationship, things get better. And when it's hitting on all fronts, it can be just, you know, incredible. incredibly overwhelming. So what to do about it. So before I get to the good parts, let me just give you the the sort of symptomology of what this would feel like. And so, you know, if you're listening to

home, just raise your hand every time something sounds like you. But basically, brain burnout just comes from long-term stress, which is why all of us have to some extent to have this, because there's been long-term stress. And long-term is anything more than three to six months, right? Right. Even more than a long weekend really is long. But, you know, technically it's a little bit longer than that. Okay. But what's interesting is introverts and extroverts have really different responses to this. So before I go into that, I don't know what you both identify as here, extra or intro. But have you noticed either the people similar to you or not how they experience some of these things differently? Well, I've seen some people just resist it and pretend like they don't have these feelings or don't have this, you know, this altered, this altered thinking. And they think that if they do talk about it or show any of that, it just shows weakness. And, you know, so I've seen that from some. Or they think it's, you know, they think it's a weakness that anybody would have any feelings of any kind in the negative.

They're just going along like their life's normal. I don't believe that for a hot second, but that's what they portray. So there's that. But then there are other people who, you know, well, let's see. There's a good way to put it. And I'm not trying to throw Kim under the bus here. But she used to be, I was always the stressy one, like our whole marriage. If there was something to stress about, I would be doing it.

And Kim would be very compartmentalized about it, very much like, well, we have to deal with it. Or if it's a problem, we'll take care of it now. you know like just kind of a very pragmatic approach to almost everything and now I can see I can just see it in her face all the time that these things get to her in ways that they didn't used to and so her her way of dealing with it I mean she's dealing with it but she's she's she is showing outward signs differently than maybe she used to under the same kind of stress she used to easier for her to say, well, here are things I can control. So I'm going to focus on those. And the things that are out of her control that are away from her that are far away and nothing

really she can do about it, it doesn't mean she doesn't have empathy for those things or, you know, feelings of whatever for those things. But she doesn't, since she knows she has really no control there, she would, she'd be able to kind of put that stuff away and not let it kind of run her day or whatever. But I think now bigger, broader issues that she's can't control probably bug her more or make her you know more sad or more stressed or whatever frustrated so i've seen that in her um you know definitely see it myself but but yeah you see different people reacting in different ways some people dig in their heels some people open up some people i mean it's part of the problem right is some people saw things like oh shoot we got a pandemic

we got to help each other and ourselves so let's wear these masks and you know the people go go, the government's trying to get to the burn. And, you know, they're all reacting to the same stimulus, but they're also reacting in such different ways, like such diverse ways of reacting to it. And that's, I don't know if I'm surprised by it. Probably shouldn't be. But I was definitely naive to how people would act

when we had kind of a crisis like that. Yeah. Well, and I think any long-term stress, and this is what burnout ultimately exists, is it's, it is such an. individual, um, internal response, right? So, so at how anyone acts outwardly based on that internal experience, you know, it's going to vary with people. And obviously the world isn't, you know, isn't categorized by just introverts and extroverts. There's lots of in-between

he's here, right? I, I would say as a bona fide extrovert, I've become an introvert in some very, I mean, Sweden started that because that is a country, introverts. But just like, oh, wow, I forgot. Like, it's kind of nice to not have to deal with people. Like, I just did never feel that way before. And, and so I think you can, you can move around on this scale a little bit. But so, so let me actually get to just the, the ways this may come, may happen. But they're so different for somebody who's very extroverted and someone who's very introverted that you would never look at those two situations and go, oh, they're both experiencing burnout, right? So, so let me explain. The minor.

symptoms of burnout are going to look like this and an extrovert. They're going to feel more emotionally erratic or blunted, just like kind of up and down and just like crying for no reason and feeling, you know, like just more rollercoastery, okay? An introvert might experience as minor symptoms of burnout. Slight detachment from life and routine, just kind of a little separating from what normally was just kind of engaging as living life. Okay. So very different responses, right? Yeah.

Those are both minor. Okay. So then we get into mild. So an extrovert, the mild brain burnout will look like excessive tiredness and low energy. Yeah. And then someone who's introverted like lack of motivation, creativity, or drive. Yeah. Okay.

Felt a bit of both of those. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen shades of that in myself. A little from column A and B there so far, sure. Right. I mean,

I realize as we talk about this, like I definitely have my version of this. I'm sure you do. I'm sure there's not anyone listening who does not relate to some of these. Sure. The grade of severity, I guess, is important too,

right? Okay, so here's a moderate brain burnout would look like for an extrovert is feeling angry, sad, or overly emotional, like really feeling all the feelings. And then for,

someone who's very introverted, it might feel more like a loss of enthusiasm or feeling withdrawn from everybody. And then kind of a major version of this is a sense of hopelessness, loss of control of life for an extrovert, which I think the pandemic was a perfect example of loss of control of life, right? And then for an introvert, feeling helpless, unable to take action. So this is where I think most people start to cognitively go, I think, I think something's wrong, is when they can't make decisions.

They start to forget words. So we have a couple of things that are similar between a trauma response and a burnout response. And I don't, I feel like they're intertwined and it's hard to pull these two apart. But if we could do a perfect scenario and they were separate, we have a trauma response and a burnout response to long-term stress is there's a couple similarities like forgetting words, feeling like you can't make a decision, just kind of some paralysis in ways that maybe you've never experienced before being able to do something you would normally just do.

Reaching out to someone, you know, having, going to do something fun rather than just wanting to curl up and stay in a small, cozy space and watch TV all weekend or something, right? Like, especially if that's not just your normal MO, they can show up very similar. And it's about a, it's like a safety response, like hunkering down and not putting yourself at risk, right? So they can look very similar. And it's probably because at the core, the brain is in slow trauma or acute trauma of just, you know, you're not okay. You're not getting what you need. And the emailer is like the job situation.

And I think a lot of people have experienced this, especially sort of essential workers of just like, yep, we're going to clap for you and cheer for you, but not really give you anything else than that. And you have to be on the front lines. You know, there's military examples of the same thing of just burning through what is there. And then your body does this. This is how it protects itself. It starts to shut down and burn out it. So sometimes that's the first thing we noticed is like, whoa, I can't think the same way or I can't make decisions, right? And then a severe form of this is, going to look like depression and anxiety more so in an extrovert and depression and chronic

fatigue in an introvert. I think the chronic fatigue can go anywhere. But just that, you know, it just zaps all of your energy. So if you were listening to this and you're like, huh, I have that and not. Yeah. Just know, you're not alone. So did you guys hear things you have? Obviously, the one I said about tired and tired and creativity. Yeah. for sure. Teague for sure. And in a lot of it I was like really, I was ready to blame on other issues.

Like I was ready to go, wow, it's because, you know, this is all depressing and sucks. So you sat around a lot more or you didn't keep up your jogging routine or, you know, so that's why you're tired,

Scott or whatever. But then when I would be back to doing those things, I would still be very tired and very exhausted and not really sure why. So then your brain starts going, well, maybe it's a medical thing. perhaps or whatever and you start catastrophizing that direction when really it's just you're just mentally exhausted and that that turns to physical exhaustion and I don't know I've come to better

terms with it recently but it's definitely it for me like that's the biggest if I had anything in this last two years to look at and say boy that got worse it's that it's just fatigue that feeling of just like I can't be bothered I can't do it yeah that and and maybe it's fatigue, but there's been a lot, you know, this week of me realizing I've just been staring at my screen for the last five minutes and not doing anything, like just, you know. I hate that feeling. Yeah. Yeah.

I've had that before. It's just like, I know what I need to do or could be doing, but instead I'm just like, burr. Like, you just nothing. Completely vegged out. Yeah. I've had that happen before. Yeah.

So, so very common for, I mean, I've had this thought, like, is this? just because I'm getting older? Like, it's, you're trying, your brain is trying to find the reasons, right? Like, oh, this must be it or, oh, I'm like, this just perfect timing, but I'm this exact age and this exact moment. And, and, you know, then I talked to 20-year-olds who are just like slogging on campus to try to get to their final class. And you're like, oh, it's, it's all of us.

It's not an age thing. Probably. So, so if you, if you take just really quick, what happens at a day? job that would deplete you so quickly, like you can imagine being taken advantage of, not getting credit for the work, not getting enough support, being has to do the job of three people, being told you're like family and then being treated like garbage, you know, like there's so many versions of us at work understanding why this burnout would come and why, but, you know, but then that would be located in your work realm. And for some of you, that may be what's happening. And it

sounds like this guy's got on all levels or this a i don't know if the guy um but the social trust breaking down and the work dynamic being really difficult you know like one person leaves and and again the great resignation right like lots of people changing jobs lots of people doing like making big changes i think is really related to this kind of overarching um burnout because what do we do is we change jobs to try to solve it and a lot of lot of people are finding they have the same exact problem at the next place. Maybe they got a raise so that feels good or whatever. But, you know, this thing is kind of following everybody around. And so a couple quick things. If you're a perfectionist,

you're a much higher risk for this type of thing for brain burnout because, you know, the part of you that needs everything to be just right all the time, you know, no one can have that task master forever and not burn out. Like it's, it's, it's. It's a tricky one. And also just basic, reliable, conscientious people, right? If you just don't give a crap, like half this stuff flies right by you. So there are definitely people are probably not burned out because they're just like, ooh, whatever.

You can all stress yourselves out, you snowflakes. That's up to you. And they just aren't feeling it. Maybe those exist. You know, I'm sure they exist. But boy, do they suck. Boy, do I not want to be around them. Like people that lack all forms of empathy, I don't want to be anywhere near you.

Like, not at all. Yeah. Go away. Yeah. Yeah. So then you've got, you know, and I'm kind of focusing more on the work aspect here, but if, you know, your work is really important to your sense of self as a core part of you and how you define yourself, you're a higher risk for this to happen to, right?

It isn't the flexibility of, oh, I can work there or there and who knows. You know, like this is, it's so important. It's kind of like the perfectionist thing. So this level of an intense need from your work or these aspects of your life to provide what they do, which is your sense of self, your worthiness because you did it all right, raises and praise and all the different things that can happen, you know, might put you at extra risk. And then also people are in caring professionals because they're giving more of themselves. I mean, you may not be aware of this, but, you know, all of the. at least here in Minnesota, I'm sure it's everywhere, but just all of the agencies that provide care for adults with disabilities in any form,

any programming, elderly care is very in that similar boat. I just cannot. It's just falling apart. Just not enough people to do the work. They need to pay more, but they don't have the funding and the Medicaid reimbursement. And it's really tough. And so then that goes back on, you know, families or the community as a whole to try to make up for us. I mean, it's an incredibly stressful dynamic because the need is there.

And that kind of goes back to this. If you don't feel like you've got a network or safety or people to rely on, that social trust thing is powerful. And having that dissolve is scary. So let's talk about solutions. So if I haven't depressed you enough, then. Let's do some more. Not paying attention.

You are. Sorry. I apologize. But the answers are annoying. They're annoying. So get a guess what the annoying answers to how do you deal with burnout is? Therapy. I mean, that sounds not so much annoying as it does true.

Seems like therapy would be good. And I would say generally talking to others. Like the other day when a friend of mine and I were trying to plan something, I just said, I just can't make a decision. She's like, I can't make a decision. And that was like this moment where we're like, oh my gosh, are we admitting that neither of us have any control over our lives?

It was so therapeutic. Let's not be alone, right? So talking to others, a therapist can help you very specifically. They're also burned out, by the way, everybody. But they can help me specifically with that perfectionism part or the need to control how to manage that. You know, like some of the deeper things. like a friend's not going to go deep dive with you.

So there's definitely value to that. But there's also value in, you know, commiserating with other people and getting some social support that you may find, you know, in burnout, it's almost like an urge to remove yourself from social support. It's like a numbness or a fog or whatever. And it's really hard to be like, you know what, I'm going to get my friends all together. And we are going to have a meeting about.

this, right? But it really is, and this is why the answers are annoying, is everything is going to require effort and change when you are exhausted and not sure you can do anything, right? So that's what's very frustrating. But it's about building some stuff back into your life and maybe it was never there, but it needs to be there of a few things. So we've got this connection to other people and being able to really talk through whatever it is, right? Okay, so there's therapy specifically or talking to others okay any other guesses what else we need to be doing oh geez uh more um well you okay i'm going to do one that wendy always tells me or at least for years you have get a book on amazon well that's true too um but your thing has always been

throw yourself at somebody else in helping somebody uh don't and i don't channel it into a positive direction yeah not even not even think of it that way just like go so-and-so needs help or that school has no what they have no toilet paper this is ridiculous and then just go nuts in trying to help them and for and kind of forget you for as long as you can you used to always say that and you still do but i don't know if that still does that still work in this scenario or am i just what's tricky about that is if you have the energy to do that awesome go for it because it will give you perspective and i mean that's really the power of it the power as you see someone else's experience that you have not seen and it changes you, right?

And so, I'm feeling, you're essentially, I'm going to harp on the word social trust because it matters a lot, of you're increasing that between you and that organization, you and that kid you're mentoring, you and that, whatever, right? Like you are buying into that social contract with others and doing something about stuff you care about. And there's a lot of power and energy in that, right? Yeah. But one of our challenges, I think, is we're not good at resting and we're not good at, you know, sort of what do we need to do before we can then go give ourselves completely to something, right? So that's where just being careful. I think most people who are really burnt out can't do that at all. Like, it's,

that would be an impossibility. Yeah. Because they are out of, absolutely out of steam. So it needs to be smaller things maybe and then maybe leading to that or and it may look like saying yes when you want your everything is screaming no to to get social contact or a friend says let's go on a walk we need to move our bodies and have a conversation and you just want to sleep or say no you know that making yourself do some of those baby steps as opposed to making yourself do some grand gesture I think um because it will take some forcing yourself to do some things so so some of our general things that are helpful for burnout is things that improve flexibility, right? So a therapist would help you work through your thinking that is not flexible, that has kept you sort of

only perceiving your situation in particular way. Or a lot of people feel trapped, right? They feel trapped in their jobs or their relationship. And it's because they're repeating the same story to themselves over and over about the situation. So getting insight, getting someone else's perspective, being heard, listening to your own self-talk through it, and hearing that you have some of the answers can be really powerful. The other thing is moving more. Our brains need us to move to think differently. We have to physically act differently to get a different thing happening, which is really hard when all you want to do is sit there, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So even if it's walking, in fact, walking can be one of the most powerful things you do.

That's the irony of us all walking through the pandemic. It was literally, needed so desperately. It was like we finally had a chance to do it, right? So really, there's a lot of power in moving and moving regularly and start small if you need to start small. Meditation is another powerful tool that can feel incredibly difficult to start because you're like, what? But it's giving your brain, think of it as giving your brain a rest. So what gives your brain a rest? Because burnout means you've used your brain too much doing the same thing. with the same stories, with the same powerlessness, whatever. And the treatment here is doing things that give your brain a rest.

And you might be like, well, exercise is not resting. Yeah, hobbies. Painting a small miniature is a meditative act. Brian, look at you. Look at you, man. My goodness, I have 200 of those to paint. There's no stress at all there. There's no stress, right?

So what you've got to do is only have one. Right, in front of them. Exactly. Exactly. And then there's this big one, and this is really hard because, you know, if you want to measure the health of yourself, your family, your community, just look at your sleep. Like, how is everybody sleeping? Bad? Yeah. And it's because it's that chicken and the egg problem with sleep, right? But working to improve your sleep hygiene, working to improve, like really doing some things to make that better and getting help with it. if you can't do it on your own can make an enormous difference. So imagine being fatigued every day, you're going to burn out way faster than you ever would if you had rest. So I know that's a hard

one because it is really hard to fix, especially when we practice certain things for years and years and years and years that, you know, is not great for us. But that, it, man, it impacts everything, right? Okay. So I know that doesn't sound like awesome. Everyone should go to an island in Bali and just relax for two weeks. I mean, the Germans do this. If you want to prescribe that, it makes it a lot easier for me to sell it. Yeah. I'm kidding. I need my doctor to get behind this, you know, get stoked about it. Well, and medicine, you know, is varies in various places. When we were in Sweden, we, you know, a family who she had, I'm going to say the wrong thing. Is it psoriasis where it's the skin.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's all crusty and weird. Yeah. And the treatment is sunshine. And she lives in Sweden. So for two weeks every year, she had to go to Spain. That was her medical treatment.

Huh. And she didn't have to use the creams. Like, that was the treatment. And it was paid for because that is what she needed to have. And then in Germany, they worked a lot on these things. Like two, three weeks recovery at like a med spa for various injuries and various emotional things. And, you know, it's crazy to think about that. Like, imagine that was what your doctor's prescribed and you had access to that. Woo. Yeah. So if I had an island, people, I promise,

I'd let every one of you go. You could, it would be part of your therapy. Come to the island. I would say, all right, you get two weeks at the island and then we'll talk. And then at that point, you'd be like, I don't need you. I'm like, sweet. But yeah, it's, I don't know, it's really hard. And I think people have to have a really honest conversation with themselves, their loved ones about how to recover. The longer and the deeper you get into burnout, the longer the recovery is. Imagine shredding your ankle

and then just keep walking on it and not getting any treatment. And you know ankles take two years when you treat them well. So like you can't, this is one of those things that will get worse and will not just course correct

if you get too far. Now, changing a job for this person, may be a great first step in that course correction, but I would also suggest some conversations about what does it look like to protect myself a little more from some of the social breakdown of social trust that I'm experiencing within family members or, you know, how do I take a break from that? What do I need to grieve or heal from?

Like being really honest about there's work in the middle here where I mean, We're all the same. We just hope that we change this thing and one thing and it works, right? But it usually is a combination of multiple things because this is a multiple faceted. Multi-faceted. Thank you. Multiple faceted. I don't forget words.

I'm fine. You're a Johnson. It's fine. We got the blood. I read, boy, is it, yeah. So we've had burnout our whole lives. But truly, I'm, I forget words now in a way I've never forgotten them. It's different.

I was like, do I have? COVID, I don't, but does my brain have it? Yeah, it's kind of like it does. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so recognizing that, you know, there's just so many aspects to this and just, you know, what would you do for a loved one experiencing this if you had some of this information and knew how to help? You would do lots of things to try to benefit them. And a huge one is that social support. So, you know, it means we have to reach out for it when we're in the one burning out. It's hard to do because you're like, well, I guess I have to just keep going because what else do we do, you know?

Yeah. There's a version of keeping it going and being kind yourself and getting yourself what you need. Well, I agree. I will, so to compliment my co-host Brian Ibitt here, my good pal. Sure. I think he's way better at doing that than I am. In fact, you know, your trip to Philly this week is emblematic of that.

You guys are like, we're doing a cool thing. Me and my wife, we're getting away. We're going to do this. I have a tendency to hunker down. and be like Mr. like ready to spring, you know, just like, I got to be ready to,

ready to roll and Brian will take those times and like chill. At least I, at least that's my perception from the outside. I don't know if I were booking that trip this week. I don't know if I would, you know, like if, you know,

we booked this trip months ago or I booked this trip months ago. And so it's like, yeah, we're going. We're totally going. But if I were in the process of making the decision this week, are we going or not, then that I might not. Teen is just getting over COVID. Like, it's a little bit of a weird, a weird time. But, um, but you, you do know how to go to trivia night. You do

know how to just stop and go, you know what? I need to go do that. And you don't, you don't get, you don't turtle up. I turtle up. And I try to keep a normal C going on. Yeah. For, for my own I admire that. I, because I'm bad at giving myself that leeway. Because I always feel like, well, no one else, everyone in my head, the story in my head is, well, no one else has a leeway. I can't, I can't go have fun. All I'll think about is everyone who's not having fun. And I don't think that's the right way to think about it. I think I'm wrong when I do that.

It's a way to think about it. I don't know if there's a right or wrong way to think about it. Look at your outcomes. That's the way to know if your way of thinking about it's working. Right, right. Well, mine is not working. So I'm going to try to do better at that. And we are.

we're making you know we we we are trying to do that one of the ways you know again would like to encourage people to join this this discord room in our discord server on frog pants discord uh the do gooters group is is was designed or was the idea came from me being sick of feeling like i can't do anything to help anybody i hate that feeling so you hear some horrible thing or here somebody say something terrible or it's witness a horrible act or whatever it is and i'm just like well now what so we thought well why don't we all get together and do a do a thing where we can at least make some small differences in our little corners and I'm very happy with how that turned out people are being awesome in there and doing great work we knew they would be anyway but it's just nice proof of that so that's one way that I've been able to gain a little bit of that solace back I did notice something a little bit weird when you may be able to I don't know there's probably a whole subject on this but how we manifest our internal struggles physically In the form of like pain and, you know, tightness and our neck hurts and our headaches and all those sorts of things. I tried, I made a considered effort to just remind myself when I'm catastrophizing or think of something negative to just go and let a bunch of air out.

And what that translated into in the last two weeks, my backstop hurting. my sciatica stopped um i stopped getting uh you know i stopped having like headaches i stopped just feeling tight and uncomfortable and physically kind of strained way more just by taking that one second even if i still want to think about the stressful thing just freaking breathe through it like it's it's i'm i'm a little pissed at how easy it turned out to be um for me yeah and also you've heard people say it for literally your whole life my whole life it's like no breathe take a breath do that and and i think at some point or i don't know maybe i'm just getting to the point where i can actually physically pull it off because it felt a little

involuntary before i'm sure it wasn't i'm sure i could have figured out techniques to make it better but it felt like that stress and that stuff was involuntary and then when i'd have like pain like that in your shoulders and your back whatever it was it was it was it was was then a whole other pile of stress to say, well, what's causing that? As if they weren't related, you know, like, oh, no, that must be something else. Or it's because you're just getting old. Or it's because you're, I don't know, you've, you, you've tripped down the stairs and your neck went a funny way. No, it turns out I just held myself in such a wound up freaking ball and never really just let freaking go. So, so that's helped a lot. If that helps anyone out

there just freaking breathe you know and there's some really amazing breath techniques you can do that are very effective at getting you to homeostasis or getting you very relaxed or you know whatever and again it's that getting out of your head enough and becoming conscious enough of a thing you need to feel good can be as simple as breathing and more times than not it's adding some rituals to your day that sort of pre-help you or post-help you with your stress, right? So that's movement, socializing, connecting with others, doing good, you know, moving your body, whatever. And all the way to as simple as just take some really deep breaths many times a day, stand up

many times a day, you know, pet an animal as frequently as you can, right? hug a kid whatever like there is there's it's it's sad that it's just all the simple things um but we're you know we're built to handle a lot of stress and hold it for a long time and it kills us it kills us eventually it just not right away and that's because we're built to be able to do it so yeah that's a great one everyone breathe okay i'm breathing i need i need 60 seconds here the dog is making the whining i've got to go out or i'm going to poop on the floor do it go get it um all right Well, Wendy, good stuff as always, and I think people could, I don't know, I think even if people feel like they're sailing through this okay, they're probably not, you know, not to look, if so, okay, let me ask you this. If somebody at the end of this whole thing or combine it with pandemic or political issues or a million other things or even just this, you know, another recent shooting that just makes us feel like we're never going to get anywhere with that, whatever, if somehow someone's just like, I'm at peace, I know, I know who I'm.

I am and I'm good and I'm at peace. They don't exist, right? I mean, I don't want to act like I know everything, but I don't feel like those people exist. Do they exist? Or are they just faking it? I think there's a level of, of, it's a word, self-delusion or we all have it, right?

And I think it doesn't always get broken. I mean, for example, we all drive around in a car. that is the biggest form of a delusion, right? That we're not at risk. Our lives aren't going to be snuffed out any second. Like, it's a, it's a delusion we need to live in to function, right? And so we all have it to some extent. And I think people who are really, like, deflective of anything coming in and just say they feel

fine, they might feel fine if they really are deflecting all those things. Or, and this is why, so people grasp so tightly to things they think they know is it gives them security, right? And I don't fault anyone for that. So I do think they exist probably, but I think most people who are paying attention to anything at all, even if it's not all of it, can feel it, right? And, and it's impact and just, like, I just don't think there's anyone not touched by it at this point, right? Like, I mean, maybe some super old people who aren't online. Maybe. Or if they're completely, you know, deep into whatever, you know, they've got dementia now and they don't you know i kind of envy them in a way it's like oh man

at least you're not dealing with this like i want to be a little kid i want to be three you know van has no idea all this stuff yeah he has no idea but you know what he does know know here's the thing though i say that but i know what he does know he knows he can see it in his mom's eyes he can see he can feel it he knows something's up but he doesn't know what or how to define it or how to you know put a put a put a label on it but he but he still feels it so Yeah, we got to get better at like admitting, first of all, admitting that we, you know, that we're not infallible or we're not impenetrable or whatever and then just be better at supporting each other and then just not get defensive and back yourself in a corner and act like

you got it all figured out. I don't know. And double down. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the reasons to do that, people do that, like, and this is what's so tricky is that, you know, there's private changes and there's public changes. you know that are very different you know people can say oh you need kids need more they need their parents to love them and they need access to you know whatever like some like whatever you want to deflect from so you don't have to face the thing that you are into right or the thing that you want to defend and you think you have all the the answers like nobody has any of the

answers like and that's the problem is that we just can't get to the same page very easily. But on the individual level, right, like if you think about it, if you can't have a conversation with a loved one, it's really hard to imagine having conversations with people you already hate, you know? Yeah. And so it's tricky. Anna Sale does that podcast, Death, Sex, and Money, and she just finished a book called, basically, like how to have the hard conversations. And I just listen to her on a podcast and she's just like, I don't even know. Like, you can tell, she's like, I mean, I'm trying, but it's just, it's, it's so tough. And I think, I think that's what's so hard is that takes a lot out of us to have some of those hard conversations. So really, I mean,

it's just a hard time to live. I was thinking, you know, at kids schools, they always do the decades things where it's like, it's the 80s now. It's the 90s. Okay. Now we're the 60s. And I was like, oh, one day, are they going to do the 2020s? They're like, I'm going to school and like, I'm a dumpster on fire, you know? Right. Look, I'm a virus. Like, it's the worst. I'm dead people.

I mean, it's so bad. I hate it so much. Anyway, yeah. So I think, you know, when we look back at the greatest generation, which I love how they name themselves that. But just the idea of like. They did name themselves that, didn't they? They did. They went through a lot of stuff. They did. They fought hard, and I appreciate a lot of it, for sure.

They did. And they did it pretty quietly. They didn't do, my advice was not the advice they got or took, right? And I think people have been through hard things collectively before. We will somehow get through. That's what I just keep saying. We can do it. But in the meantime, watch some Netflix and have some ice cream. Okay. There we go. I love it. Make some bread. Make some bread. Go back to those hobbies that we picked up.

Then eat that bread. That bread is good. Eat that bread. All right. Wendy, always a pleasure. We'll do this again next week. And we'll see.

Maybe next week is our, we'll talk about dealing with shootings again. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I hate it. But I do like talking to you. Is there anything else you want to mention? Yeah, no, nothing.

I need to go. All right. You go. Go do your thing. We'll see you next time. All right. See you guys. See you, Wendy.

I'll get her off and I went guy at the end. That's all right. You do that to everybody, and now it's just, it just becomes something that we all expect. Yeah, it may as well be people I'm related to. It's fine. Nice will be, exactly. Might as well be family.

Not an issue. All right, we're going to get out here. But hey, Brian, Coverville. When is it? There will be one today as a matter of fact, Scott. Oh, yes. Celebrating the birthdays of, well, Roland Giff, Susie Sue and Noel Gallagher.

So find young cannibals, Susie and the Banshees, and Elie. We'll see if we can keep all of those people from fighting with one another at Twitch.tv slash coverville 1 p.m. mountain time and really it's going to be one set of finding cannibals and banshees,

Susie and the banshees mixed up and then all of the, like, Oasis for the last two sets. Wow. I've got a lot of Oasis covers. Fun. I don't know if you just saw this. I guess Ray Liotta passed away. Ray Liotta passed away.

Yeah, exactly. I didn't want to listen. The last thing I wanted to do. was bring it up during Wednesday's segment and you have one more thing. Let's see. It was in the Dominican Republic filming something and died at 67 in his sleep. No foul play. No weirdness.

Just died. That's how I want to go, by the way. It's in my sleep. Not necessarily at 67, but. I want to go in your sleep too. Yeah. Would you like to go in my sleep? I want me go in your sleep.

Well, last time you went in my sleep, you were a head on a chair. It was a head on a rolling chair. I looked at an office chair or something. Yeah, it was weird. It's still one of the strangest things ever. Anyway, I may have to watch Goodfellas or something. There we go. Watch Something Wild.

That's something, a movie that a lot of people forget about. It was so damn good. Jeff Daniels, Melanie Griffith, and maybe my favorite Melanie Griffith performance of all time, and Ray Leota. And if Something Wild is airing, is streaming anywhere, man. Put that one. Oh, yeah.

86. That was a wild. That was an old one, but I thought it was newer than that. The first time I ever saw Queen Latifah. anywhere doing anything. Wow. I like her, too. Yeah. Yeah. But that's one of those movies where it's like

every possible, possible bad thing that happens, happens one right after another. Dang, man. I guess his daughter's acting and doing some cool stuff. Oh. I have to follow her. And I also just draw, for whatever reason, I think of Ray Leota for two things. I think Goodfellas, which is an amazing movie I could watch any time of the day, any time of the night.

And then I always think of, him having his brain eaten by what's his name? Hannibal Lecter. Yes, right. While he's alive and conscious. Yeah, while he's there talking and trying to do stuff. Didn't even like take a bite of his own brain? Yeah, yeah, he ate his own brain.

He fried it up and ate his own brain. Yes. Oh, it was a rough, man. That was the one that's... So watch that fun movie. Yeah, yeah. That's the one Ridley Scott directed, I think. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, wow. I think it was just called Hannibal? I don't remember. Anyway, good time. Let's move on and get out of here. Patreon.com slash TMS is how the show is supported. If you want to check out all the ways you can and why it's cool, check it out. Patreon.com slash TMS.

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All right. Let's get out of here with a song. What do you got? Yeah, we talked a little bit about Jayfongtastic a week or so ago, a couple weeks ago. He wrote in, listen, he says, Brian and Scott, I'm going to be 45 damn years old on May 28th. That is Sunday. And I don't like it. Last I checked, I was 15.

Could you please play any cover by my favorite band, Faith No More, to make the day go down a little easier? Thank you. And can I get a pepto-bizmal diarrhea. Oh, yeah, you can get this first. And then you get this. Diarrere. There you go. Love it.

He says, Love the Snow Globe sign. J. Funktastic. All right. Well, Open Micers. You got to go check out his podcast. Open Micers. It's a lot of fun.

I was on there a couple weeks ago, and it was such a blast. Oh, 20th the Saturday. That's right. It's two days from now. Tomorrow's Friday. For some reason, I thought today was Friday. Okay. How about a cover by Faith no more?

This one was an easy choice, mostly because it's the song called Easy. And I'm surprised I haven't played it before on this show. But covering the song by the Commodores, made popular by Lionel Richie. Here is Easy by Faith No More. Very nice. Okay, quick schedule note.

Just a reminder, no PM tomorrow. Brian will be traveling. I'm going to do some kind of stream. I don't know whether it'll be probably art or Carter. I don't know. We're talking about stuff. Maybe a game stream. Who knows?

Film sack is happening this weekend, but it will happen on Monday. So the holiday weekend, I should say. So you'll get it on Monday after we record because Brian will be back. Right. And playday, right after that, we'll be playing among us, hopefully with Dunaway and friends. So come hopefully. Definitely with Dunaway and friends. Yeah.

Oh, Randy hangs around too. I'm not sure what his schedule is. I don't know about Randy. Yeah, he's got a move cat woman. He's going to be playing betas of that new Warcraft game. Probably. Yeah, why don't you do that or go move? Maybe we'll let him play our game if he lets us play his game.

Yeah, move Catwoman. I've moved Catwoman. Okay, great. So anyway, that's the plan. Lots of other stuff in between Core tonight at 5 p.m. Mountain. So come watch Core if you can live or get the podcast after. I've got a lot to talk about with the boys tonight. So check that out.

And lots of other stuff that's going to do it. Thank you all for listening. Brian, have a safe trip, by the way. Oh, thank you, sir. And we'll see you guys soon. Turn the lights out, baby. This one's for the ladies in the house. No, it sounds funny, but I just can't stand the pain

Girl, I'm leaving you tomorrow Seems to me, girl, you know I've done all I came You see your big stole on the borough Yeah Who So I'm easy I'm easy like Sunday morning Yeah

He's like Sunday morning. I want to be high, so high. So high. I want to be preaching all the things I do all right. I want to be free Just me Oh, baby Yeah.

Why measurer Why me'ser The Miser like Sunday morning Yeah Yeah That's why me's Yeah Measel like Sunday

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