The Morning Stream - TMS 2298: The Leavings of Newman

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

That's not Marvel, It's Canadian. Our Very Own Little Hammond. Giraffes In Space!! The Strawberries Taste Like Vomit and the Chicken Tastes Like Wood. The Taint Is In The Air! Burnt beef flap taint. L...et's Test The Beef's Heaters. I like the juice if i'm sitting there. Don't Drop Food On Space Heaters. A plethora of Michaels. I prefer the older leathery Lundgren. Elfquest Had Boobs In It. Do you smell what the oil heater is cooking? Forking off with Tom. Sandwich Recommentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, that's not Marvel. It's Canadian. Our very own little Hammond. Giraffes in space. The strawberries taste like vomit, and the chicken tastes like wood. The taint is in the air. Burnt beef flap taint. Ooh, let's test the beef's heaters.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I like the juice if I'm just sitting there. Don't drop food on space heaters. A plethora of Michaels. I prefer the older leathery lungrin. Elfquest had boobs in it. Do you smell what the oil heater is cooking? Forking off with Tom Sandwich Recommendals with Randy and more
Starting point is 00:00:32 on this episode of The Morning Stream They got good chicken though Shit I'm so sorry Good chicken The Morning Stream The Morning Stream
Starting point is 00:00:54 Am I still here? Hello? Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, June 1st, 2022. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott-Dansson over there. Hi, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Hello. Welcome to a brand new month, Scott. Yeah. Man, you got a color for a shirt on. Tell me about this shirt for a second. This is a Jurassic perk. So we got our bug and amber right here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:26 All right. Oh, yeah. There's a T-Rex. in the middle, chasing the Jeep. We've got, is Hammond high enough that you can see him? Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Little Hammond. Little Hammond. Not to be confused with Chamberlain to the other Hammond. It's our very own little Hammond. Yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:01:45 The one with the frilly, blah, la, la, la. The one that ate killed Newman. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. And his shaving cream.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yep. He got in the car with Newman and killed Newman in the car. He killed Newman. Oh, in the car is the car. worse because it was shut at that point nobody's getting out yeah no way out exactly and then
Starting point is 00:02:04 that thing's not getting out so it it feasts on Newman and then dies in there and now you have the leavings of Newman and the decaying carcass of a freaking dinosaur as bad the leavings the leavings of the leavings of Newman yeah well
Starting point is 00:02:20 title's already coming out of the chat is going to be a title right there uh well so anyway that's that's my colorful shirt I was just going to tell you that if Van was here he would sit in front of you and look at it like TV. He would just stare at it. He would love it. You wouldn't be allowed to leave the room.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You'd be mad if you turned. Yeah. All right. He loves that crap. Oh my gosh. Cool. Anyway, we got to see him finally. So he's, you know, the COVID has finished.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It's dark, it's dark work and passed through the family. And now they are all well and okay. Dylan still can't taste everything normally. Strawberries taste like vomit to him. him. Oh. Yep. What was the other thing
Starting point is 00:03:00 that was weird? I think cheese or something's really off for him. Does the chicken taste like wood? The chicken probably tastes like wood. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I mean, that's what the rap gods told me. Is the chicken tastes like wood? Anyway, I got to see you, Mr. Day was really fun and all he talked about was dinosaurs, so your shirt would be very popular with the boy.
Starting point is 00:03:17 If only I could give this to him and let him wear it around, but I'm not going to give him the shirt off my back. No, don't do that. So, Kevin Chew, who's otherwise known as I-Corps in our chat room, he sent us an email.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And it was right after we had this discussion yesterday about giraffes being a measurement. Big asteroid, yeah, right. The asteroid full of 350 giraffes worth of asteroid space or whatever. And you and I were like blown away that this was even close to a measurement unit. Like it just seemed stupid. Right. Right. Still seems really stupid to me, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yes, it is. So Kevin wrote in and says... But please prove me wrong, Kevin. Yeah, let's have Kevin prove us wrong. He says, hey, Scott, apparently measuring space objects in terms of giraffes has been a thing since March when the Daily Mail wrote this article about an asteroid which actually hit Earth. I'll pull this one up real quick so I can read the proper headline. I thought I had it and I didn't.
Starting point is 00:04:14 There it is. Okay, asteroid half the size of a giraffe strikes Earth off the coast of Iceland just two hours after it was discovered by astronomers. So that, I don't know if this is the first time anybody's compared it to a giraffe, but someone else did. So maybe there's some precedence here. He goes on to say there is now even a Reddit group about giraffe measurement, which is over at half-a-jiraph. com. So if you want to go check that out, that'll give you something. I mean, just because something's on Reddit, does it make it real?
Starting point is 00:04:52 I mean, it's a good point. Let's see. How old is this? Oh, my gosh, there's tons in here. Really? Okay. Driving past drafts at high speed. No, this, I think this is just anything to do with giraffes.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Oh. It's not just measurements. Maybe. Using giraffes as a measurement. I guess so. How many fridges make a giraffe? Let's see. A couple of stacks of regular potatoes or one small dog.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It looks like what these people are doing. It's just a lot of weird weight comparisons. Yeah. And then some of these are... Yeah, I see what you're saying right. They find these, okay. So it must be... Police rescue Ariana Grande-sized alligator from basement.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That's good. That's good. That's good. I signed me up for this. Now, what, okay, so what we've seen... What we see here is not, this is not a scientific measurement. This is a meany measurement that all the meme lords are meme. okay exactly so now we're going to be hearing nothing but uh giraffs for for a year until uh until it's uh not cool anymore to talk about giraffes as a form of measurement yeah and you and i i think
Starting point is 00:06:08 you and i already we've already hit this level we've already hit the limit we're yeah yeah yeah i don't ever want to hear it again we're done okay now i have something very embarrassing to tell everybody okay i'm always very open here on the show what you see is what you get i am who i am we're not worth it all yeah you and i are not the kind of the type to to put on a bunch of errors or anything we don't uh you know error errors maybe but not errors yes we'll definitely put on errors but uh so yesterday you can't see it on the camera but right here next to me on the floor is that oil space heater that uh the fan love me and it's been awesome it just radiates nice even now that you figured out how to get variations between on
Starting point is 00:06:52 Off and Mercury. Yes. On and surface of the sun. This has a very nice slow build. It's got settings to keep it right where you want it. The whole room just sort of gets the warmth. You know, it's just nice. Anyway, I've been very happy with it.
Starting point is 00:07:11 But because it's right here and the reason I have it right here is easy access while I'm recording the show. Get too hot. I'm like, all right, I'm going to go turn that down, turn it up, whatever. Kim comes in here last night while I'm doing Play Retro with Brian Dunaway. and she has in her hand a submarine sandwich. Ooh, uh-huh. Yeah, and it was one from Jimmy Johns. You didn't buy it from submarine way?
Starting point is 00:07:32 No, I did not. Okay. However. Are Jersey Mike submarines? I did. We did go to Jersey mics the other day. It was really good. I liked your good jersey mics.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I don't think I told you that story, but we went there and we had a coupon for buy one, get one free. And because Kim is a psycho and wants to help everybody and make people happy, she gave a $10 tip to the kid up front because after doing that it was still less than what we would have paid for these two subs so it's just a way with Kim if we're going to save money she'll figure out a way to spend that money
Starting point is 00:08:07 usually for good for good you know I don't want to make it sound like crazy so she gave a $10 chip to this guy and then I just kind of watched the quarter of my eye because I could tell what she was doing I was kind of watching what happened after that he looks at that money and looks at her and says something. I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And then he walks toward the back and he sees the manager and he grabs him and whispers in his ears. And the manager looks over at us and sees me and he nods at me like this. He goes, like this. This gives me a nice slow nod. And I'm like, wow. We must have real. That 10 bucks must never happen here at the Jersey mics. So they end up giving us cookies and we're super nice as we walk out of there.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So some good karma over there. using mics, turns out. Clearly. That's nice. Except they must get frustrated because you know they have the Mike's Way where they say, you want it Mike's Way, which is like everything on it. They had an old guy there. He goes, all right, sir, do you want this? Mike's Way? And he goes, oh, yeah, definitely Mike's Way, except could you take off the thing
Starting point is 00:09:06 and add this and then remove that? I'm like, no, no, no. Mike's way means... Count me as that, because the Mike's Way, listen, it's a lot easier to say Mike's way, no juice than to say yeah give me lettuce tomato onions this that the other thing but i can say mike's way no juice and then they leave off the stuff that makes my sandwich soggy before i even get the damn like the oil and vinegar you don't like that oil and vinegar i don't want the juice no juice no juice i like the juice if i'm sitting there if i'm staying in if i'm leaving or or you know
Starting point is 00:09:39 doing a pickup i don't want the juice no juice no juice for me yeah no juice mysway no juice that's how i say okay see that's good you have a method that's better right right the old man probably like said, give me the version that has all seven things on it, but take off these five. Can I substitute beef for chicken? I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:00 he was just all over the place, and I could see on their faces, they were just like, oh, one of these. But, yeah, it was a good time. Anyway, back to the thing. So I get this sandwich. Jimmy Johns, it's number 14. It's got roast beef and turkey. It's good. A big fan. And I like those loaded, too.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I like all the veggies and, you know, the hot things and all that. Yeah. She gives it to me. And all I did was like open it to see what was in there and then wrap it back up because I'm not going to eat it on the show. Right. But I look in there and say, oh, that's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I wrap it back up and I put it back down. All right. So the show's going. We got like 45 minutes left on the show. And I start to smell the smell of rancid meat or burnt flesh. Oh, no. It was a really weird smell. And I'm like, is that coming off of that?
Starting point is 00:10:47 me? What is this? I was starting to worry. This is not a smell I've ever smelled before. Here's what happened. When I opened the sandwich to check it, a slab of beef or a slice of beef fell out onto that heater
Starting point is 00:11:03 and just sat there and cooked for You had your own little Korean barbecue going in there like your own little, yeah. I did, and it was foul. It smelled like it smelled like death in here. It was so bad. It still has a little, it's The taint is in the air. I can still...
Starting point is 00:11:19 Just a little bit. So I guess what I'm saying is learn from my foibles and don't drop food on space heaters. Okay? Don't do that. Could have been worse. Could have been fire? I don't know. What does beef do after it dries out?
Starting point is 00:11:32 Could it catch on fire? I don't know. Jerky. Jerky. My very own little dehydrator jerky machine over here. Yeah. See, I don't think you would have cooked it to jerky level. You would have just cooked it to black, crusty,
Starting point is 00:11:46 would it have caught on fire? I don't think it would ever would have caught on fire. Not on one of these little space heaters. No. I don't think it even gets that hot. It's just enough to like cook it, you know? Yeah. Does it get up to Fahrenheit 451, Scott?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Because that's the key right there is Fahrenheit 451. Oh, man, no, I don't think it does. Okay. Is that the temperature at which something will burst into flames? At which paper burns, yes. Okay. I forgot that movie or that book story thing. Yeah, book.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I guess they tried to make a movie. couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen one. They did. And they were, they were working on another one. There was supposed to be another one that was, uh, oh yeah, uh, Michael, B. Jordan. Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. I remember the talk about that. Right. Uh, let's see here.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Is he still working on it? Doodoo do, do, do. Um, adaptations, film. Um, yada, yada, yada. Give it a different name or something. Oh, it was apparently released in 2018 and I, HBO. Yeah. Well, okay. Just like Free Rangers and Lassar just said, yeah, it came out five years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I guess it was that. Michael Shannon. How could that thing be bad? Was it bad? Oh, 4.9 out of 10 on IMB. That's not good. It seems low. I'd love Michael.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I mean, that's halfway. What's, that was IMDB. What is it on Rotten Tomatoes? I don't know. I'd take a look here. Oh, I'd love Michael Shannon. You kidding me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I mean, this is normally enough to... The two of them together. They're cool. Look at those four names. Michael, Jordan, Michael, Shannon. It's like, well, three names there really. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Lots of Michael. Lots of Michael's. This is, I'm not sure it's still on HBO. I could probably watch it. Probably if it was made for HBO. I like that Michael B. Jordan. He's good. Creed 3 coming.
Starting point is 00:13:40 All right. Watch for that. Oh, is there really another Creed coming? Another Creed. Those Creed movies are good. I have not seen any of them, and I feel bad because I wanted to. Oh, you really should. They're very good.
Starting point is 00:13:51 The first one in particular, I was so, like, not sure it was going to work out. I don't know why. I just was like, come on, really? We're doing a spinoff from Creed or from Rocky and, you know, Sylvester Stallone's in it. It's like, legit. These movies are good. Like, better. I think they're better than the Rocky movies.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Oh, yeah. Interesting. I said it, and I agree. It's better than those Rocky movies. And that says a lot because some of those Rocky movies are, great but this uh this one just felt i don't know more real more grounded it's got the director of uh black panther did the first one um coogler coogler coogler coogler is it coogler it's coogler it's ryan cougler goodler sure sure right gougler yeah he found on cut let me look
Starting point is 00:14:36 that up really quick it doesn't sound right my head coogler i guess you're right but it doesn't sound right. Anyway, he, so he did that and then the second one, I don't know who did, but that's also very good. So, yeah, you should watch Creed. Yeah, it's for rent on Apple TV, so I'm perplexed at how I'm going to get a chance to watch the
Starting point is 00:14:57 first Creed movie. It's very perplexing. You're going to get a hold of that. The second one's got your the son of Draco, or whatever's name was. Oh, yeah, Ivan Drago. Yeah, Ivan Drago. And, and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:15:13 And the dude himself. Oh, yeah. Lundgren making appearance. And old Dolph Lungren is my favorite Dolf Lundgren. Really? I think he's so cool, old. Like, when he was in one of those, one or two of those expendables, I just think he's a badass as he's old.
Starting point is 00:15:31 There's something about him. Leathery and, yeah, I'm with you. Creed 2 also not, not quote unquote, free streaming on the every services that I pay for. Oh, weird. But on the every goddamn service that I pay for list. You have more than anyone I know. I think you do all of them. I do.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Because it's a tax write-off. I just say at the end of the year, I just tell my account, that's all for film sack. It's all for film sack. It's part of the business. I do that with a lot of stuff, so I feel like that. No, I need to be a lot better about saying,
Starting point is 00:16:05 all right, there is nothing that we're going to be watching on film sack or on film sack that's going to be on HBO for the next month. Let's go ahead and Axe HBO. But then I miss Barry. Yeah, you can't miss Barry. Barry's great. I can't get rid of Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I can't get rid of HBO Max. I probably could do Netflix and Hulu and all those, but we'll see. Yeah. I don't know. Then you say Hulu, I go, but how am I going to get my Futurama? I don't know. I don't know how I'm going to get it. Yeah, this is how they get you, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:33 They said we're back into CableTown. Yeah, we're in CableTown again. Speaking of Cable Town. Cable Town. straight from Cable Town. One Brian Dunaway joining us as he does every Monday and Wednesday. Hi, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Hi. Oh, hi, Brian. How are you guys? You know. Good. How are you? Pretty good. I'm doing fantastic.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I've seen a lot of both of you the last couple of days. Not all I want, but it's been a lot of fun. Pieces and parts of us. Yeah. That's true. It's been more than usual. But the thing is, I'm not sick of it. I'm like, why is this not my everyday job?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. What's going on with that? I think it should be. Yeah, it should really. I mean, real. Yeah. Really, should be, right? Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Did you finish figuring out how my series X will play Mario Galaxy 1 and 2? Did you figure that out yet? What's going on? I actually did. So last night, we talked about this and play retro show. And I actually did, Scott, you know, we had talked in the retro show about me doing the developer route. Yeah. And then there's another way through the retail store.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And I tried that one last night on my Xbox 1S. and it worked fine and I didn't I didn't try those particular games that we looked at but I did try a couple of the games and they worked fine no issues new issues huh okay no issues so far so we're we're gonna move to the next step and I've got every I think I got all my little notes together and we're gonna we're gonna move forward all right this is gonna be great I'm gonna be playing a freaking an old Nintendo classic on a brand new hot piece of hardware with a controller that was never in intended to play that game. I can't wait. Franken gaming is what it's called. There you go. That's not bad. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:18:16 That's the show. That's one of the things I've been looking at too. I've been trying to figure out which controllers, like which 8-bit do controllers that would go into the Xbox. And so then you don't have to use a... Yeah, you don't need to. Just use an Xbox controller. Yeah. That's an I'm a do.
Starting point is 00:18:33 That's what you get 8-bit do. We got you here. We also have a listener on the line. Let's find out who's been waiting very patiently. Hi, who's this? Hey, it's Jana. Well, hello, Jaina. How are you?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Hey, Jana. I'm doing awesome today. How are you, gentlemen? Doing fantastic. Is this the Jaina that only listens to the first half of our shows? Okay, so here's the thing. That one said yesterday, I'm like, no, I'm going to call in for the contest so that I can say, it's not that I don't find it uninteresting.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I love the second half of the show. It's just my schedule of makes it so I can usually only listen to the first part. Okay, we were all assuming there was something wrong with the latter half, and that that was the problem, but... Yeah, no Brian. That's the problem. That's your problem with the second half of the show. No done away. We get 50% less bryans. By the way, happy birthday yesterday? What was yesterday of your birthday? Yesterday? Day before? It was. Thank you so much. And thank you for the cover that the asked you to send. I actually really good on, and I added it to my repertoire. I'm going to be playing out here locally in a couple weeks. I'm going to add that to it. Very nice. Oh, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So, wow, all right, you play ukulele, like, professionally, like in front of people. I play here in my room, but in front of people, yes. Yeah, that's cool. No, that's awesome. I wish I could do any of that, but not my bag. Well, I'm really glad you called in because we're going to play a game, and we're going to try to win you some prizes. But to do that, Brian Ibit here has to explain the damn thing.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So, Brian, what do you got to do here? Prizes you could win today. It's time to play the 10-pool. Somebody, by the way, somebody wrote in and said they hate the name. They said, they hate the name of Tad Pooley Feud, and they hate the name of morning half-asses. Half-asses. Interesting. Well, they can kiss our asses.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And then they said, and I don't have social media, so could you please add me to the list of people who can win prizes that Scott and Brian play for? Yeah, on this show that I hate the name of. Exactly. And I said, oh, darn. I accidentally lost your email. Oh, what a bummer. People can like and not like what they want, and that's totally, totally fine with us. You can like the latter half of the show or not.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Exactly, exactly. Listen, Tad Pooley rhymes with family, and as Vindee's will kill us. No, it really doesn't. But it's all about family. Nice. Well done. All right. Let's get to this.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Frog pants feud. Oh, that's pretty good. I don't know. It's just so, it's just not. It's not as TMS related, you know? It's the Tadpoli feud. Yeah, we can't, yeah, we can't do that because that wasn't given into pressure. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Exactly. Listen, if you don't, if you don't emphasize the ooh in Tad Pooley feud, if you go Tadpoli feud, then it's, then it sounds like family feud. What if it's just Tadpool feud? What if we just got rid of the Oolie? We're sticking what we got. We keep in the Ool, but losing the E. Yeah. So just Tadpool feud or Tad, Tad feud?
Starting point is 00:21:35 No, these are all bad. You're right. It's stick with what we got. What about if it kisses all of us like Richard Dawson? How about that? How about that? How about that? I did that in Vegas, and we'll never speak of that again.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Nope. Listen, I've surveyed the TED poll on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian, you're going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. And it's your job to see how many of those answers that you can guess. Jaina, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian today. And if your team wins, you get a prize package. Wow. this is an incredible one. That includes
Starting point is 00:22:09 Cities Skylines and all the DLC that goes with it. After Dark Mass Transit, Sunset Harbor, Park Life, all of that and City's Skyline, all courtesy of Paul Westervelt. Oh, very nice. Paul, thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It's an amazing package and the best city builder ever made. Yeah, that's right. You heard me. It's like I really close to just copying these codes out from ourselves, but I'm not can do that. Yeah, we're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 That is an incredible deal. So, with that said, let's give you guys your topic. We're going to salute the Indies today, which is great. Okay. But you don't know what indie. Indie Wets, right? Yeah. Indie Jones. Is the Indie Jones?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Is that what we're going to be celebrating? Indiana Jones. No, put your hands on your buzzards. We had 544 responses to the 63 people just couldn't be bothered to come up with an answer to this question. Name a comic book series. that isn't from Marvel or D.C. No. Scott. Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Hellboy. Show me the boy of hell. Three. Number three. Number three. Two answers will be it. Brian, do you have a guess? How about, oh, nothing good. I have like a million I love. Like, I love Fathom by Michael Turner.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh, man, I miss Michael Turner so much. But that was so good, and I love it so much, but Tapp Poo is not. That pool's not got that, but yeah, go ahead, Fathom. Okay, Fathom. Show me Fathom. Oh, first buzz of the day. Let's see. Actually, did anybody say Fathom?
Starting point is 00:23:46 I'm going to take a quick look here. Just me. I should have went with the more popular of his... Dunaway, had I taken the thing? I would have answered Fathom. I loved Fathom. No, no Fathom. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:23:57 All the Michael Turner stuff. You don't know what Michael Turner is. You need to look up so Michael Turner. It is... He was amazing. His run on JLA was amazing. his run on with the witch
Starting point is 00:24:08 or what's the witch girl that had the witch arm what was her name? Wasn't there a game? Don't say it because that was the other one I was going to go with
Starting point is 00:24:16 that's the more popular one and I It's older though I don't know if that thing's still a thing well anyway It doesn't matter All right so it was a TV series and everything
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah Can't think of the name Tedpool didn't have a fathom What you're talking about But Scott you're going to be working With Jaina The two of you Have control of the board
Starting point is 00:24:33 All right Jana Last time we played a game together It was to find out who Hitler was, but today's different. Do you have, I was thinking like, I was thinking like Walking Dead's probably on there. Oh, that's a good one. Do you have anything else that you would say? I have a couple in my head, but Walking Dead sounds like a good place to start. All right, let's start with Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Let's do that. All right. Starting with Kirkman's The Walking Dead. Number two on the list, yeah. Lots of people know that one. That's a good one. Jayna, what do you got? I'm thinking, like, with all of the other shows and stuff,
Starting point is 00:25:11 not just The Walking Dead that have become popular. So what about, this is just coming back. What about the boys? Oh, the boys, duh. Oh, I'll bet this is number one. Yeah, I'll bet this hits it. Okay, yeah, the boys. Yeah, it's got to be on the list.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, good time on this one. Let those new, the new season coming out soon. Yep. Show me the boys. Boy, that's going to end up on a mashup. Oh, no. Oh, no. The boys, number 14.
Starting point is 00:25:35 on the list. I remember these survey questions. Well, these survey questions were asked last year, at the end of the year, where the boys was still, season, season two was still popular, so are still familiar, or recent enough. It's all right. That's all right. Let's see what Brian has to say.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Brian. I'm going with more, I guess I'm going to go during the, you know, the hotness it was the 90s, the big surges. If you're going to say, hellboy, you can't, you can't, not say Spawn. Spawn, yeah, that one comic by that one guy who put all the webs on Spider-Man, that guy.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that dude. He drew Spider-Man with way too many webs. And Scott had to do it. And he has balls. He bought balls. Definitely about balls. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Not balls. Still one of my favorite interviews I ever did with Todd McFarland. The guy's a brilliant dude. I know Todd McFarland. I'm kidding about, you know. That guy. Show me.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Show me Spawn. Number one. Number one answer on the board. It's a great answer, but obviously it's not going to get you very many points, but still. I'm surprised. Right. I don't know why. Spawn is still a thing.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Mike Zek. Mike Zek is the guy who can't draw feet. Look it up. Mike Zek can't draw feet. Well, Mike Zek and what's his name? Deadpool creator. I can think of his name. Lieberman?
Starting point is 00:27:01 No. Oh, no, you're talking about Lifeld? Lifeld. Yeah. Rob Lydell's feet. His feet are horrendous. Horrendous feet. We always give him such a hard guy.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Look, he's one of those guys that, like, he created cable and Deadpool and some amazing X-Men stuff. And, like, before he even went to, you know, ran over there to image and stuff, he just had all kinds of great creations. But his actual art all over the effing map, it's just bad. I feel bad for him because, you know, he's a good creation. He just can't draw over this shit. Mike, Mike's feet just basically turn into be, turned into like table leg, like, like chair legs. Like they're just straight down because he's always got the foot position directly at the viewer. So it's like, meh.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, it's not good. But he was the first person to draw the black costume on Spider-Man. Interesting. Now, I'll tell you. That's not at all important right now. All right. So it's important. It's always important.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah. All right. So you're turn, done away. So you still have control of the board, Brian. Yeah, still you. Yeah. Well, y'all won't shut up. Let me get a guess.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Put your pop-carts in the break room. I'll have you know I had grilled chicken breast from KFC, and I'm drinking an unsweetened tea right now. Oh, very nice. Look at you. Yeah. It's disgusting. Anyway, I'm going to go with one of my, one I didn't discover until much later in the series, saga. I love this.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Saga. Yeah, by Brian Vaughn and a few. Biona Staples. Staples, yeah. That's so good. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I had some...
Starting point is 00:28:40 Scott got me into that by sending me the first graphic novel and was like, oh, it's so good. It's so good. It's coming back, right? There's new ones here or something. Let's do it. Yeah, there's still, yeah. Well, they took a huge break. It was like seven years of nothing and then banned.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Didn't we? All. Yeah. We all took a big break. All right. Show me. Saga. We have ourselves a tie game right now. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Brian's got four. one, Scott's got two and three. Damn. All right. Now, this is where it's going to get, this is where it's going to get interesting because a lot of the rest of the stuff I know is really, really indie, and I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Except for one that we, yeah. Didn't we talk about this the other week, Scott? We talked about, I'm going to go with, even though I think it started out as part of, now I'm getting confused. Was it? Oh, my Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Teenage Mutiny. They separated it from everything. Right. They were on their own when they started out. I don't think, did they ever become part of, I don't think they ever became part of Marvel or DC? No, I think IDW. And that was the rub.
Starting point is 00:29:46 They refused to, yeah, because they wanted to do their own thing. It was like initially intended just as a parody of Frank Miller's Daredevil. Yeah. Right. And then blew up from there. Just totally blew up from there. That first comic, the black and white one, super dark. That thing is not with the turtles.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So violent and so cool. I've got a second edition. reprint of it. So it's still it was like less than a year after the first edition sold out, but it's not nearly worth as much as the first edition, obviously. Sure, sure, sure. All right, show me Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's good points. Turtle power. You doubled your score plus one there. Man. Did I really? Yeah. Good for me. No, bad for you. Bad bad. Oh, bad for me? Bad for Jana. Yeah, bad for Jana. Oh, sorry, Jena.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So, yeah. I'll remind you, Brian, you don't get the prizes if you win, so. Yeah, but I get to, but I get to say, aha. Yeah, sure, sure. That's true. That's true. How about bone? I'm going, bone.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, yeah, Jeff Smith's bone. Yeah, just Smith's bone. I saw my bone artwork just other day. Yeah, bone art. By Steve Hammaker, a friend of the show, Steve Hammerker. Yep, yep, that's right. Follow them on Twitch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yeah, show, uh, all right, let's just say it. Show me bone. Show me bone, baby. Oh, come on. Come on, tag, cool. I thought you're. Number 11, just, like, seriously, just outside the top of it. Bone is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It is. It's so good. And all ages, like, like, you know, good for anybody. Sure. Yeah. And seriously, Steve, Steve Hamaker, he's on Twitch. Follow him. He's fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I got to stay at his house. Well, I ate at his house and stayed there. You stayed there long enough to eat. Yeah, I ate some really good food with my wife, man. Did he know you were there? Yeah, he knew. He invited me there. Well, good.
Starting point is 00:31:44 He's an awesome dude, really cool guy. He drew that version of me that's on the uncoverville.com up in the corner. There's also a really cool image of you and I both who did a TMS combo one one here. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I don't know if I, do I know that one? I thought you'd seen it. If you haven't seen it, I'm, I'm derelict in my duties.
Starting point is 00:32:03 here. Yes, please underelict yourself and send me a copy of that. See if I can find it real fast, because it's really cool. That's not as fast as I'd hoped. All right, well, I'll look for it later. It's very good. All right, so back to me and Jana. That's right. Down by the school yard. All right, Jaina, what do you say? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:22 I've got one, but I don't want to say it until I hear your awesome idea. Do you have a good idea? No, that's kind of where I'm at, too. I have a couple. I'm a little trigger shy though I know same I'm feeling like a little nervous about it All right you know what let me throw this one out Everyone loves Judge Dredd I feel like Judge Dredd's got to be on here
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh that's a excellent one I forgot about the European market yes Yeah I'm just worried that 80 2000 Yeah when that movie the movie with freaking what's his name The second the newer one? Oh the newer one the one with um I think it was right Joel Kinnaman no no dude from that was RoboCob. Carl Urban. Yeah, from the boys.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I was thinking Robocop was Joe Kinneman. Yeah, that was Robocop. Same kind of thing. Yeah. The thing over the face, and much better than the original version. I actually really, I really liked both of these movies. They're both, I know the Robocop one's controversial, but I actually really think it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I do, do. But anyway, let's go, yeah, let's go Judge Dredd. Sure, all right. Yeah. Show me Judge Dread. Please. Oh, come on. That was a great one. Number 19 on the list. Yeah, that was a very good, a very good one.
Starting point is 00:33:38 All right. Well, Don, away. It's yours to lose now because you got, no, you have more checks. You have less X than that. I only have one X. Okay. One X, give it to you. Oh, I just thought of one.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh, you got one? Yeah, but I'm nothing. You go ahead. What is it? No. What is? I'm not saying. I'm just going to start naming.
Starting point is 00:34:00 people I've talked to on comments coast to coast and interviewed I'm going to go with Scotty Young I hate fairy fairyland oh I'm sure this is going to be on here do it okay all right
Starting point is 00:34:15 yeah just no way it's going to be on here but I'm kind of out of good answers so I'm just going to do stuff they like all right show me all that stuff that Brian Dunaway just said oh come on I hate Fairyland Scottie Young I know I know he's the guy
Starting point is 00:34:30 who told us how to read comics, how to understand comics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did, and he did, he's great, it's great. All right. That thing that's just, let's do an image, I believe. Yeah, and I'm looking to see if, I'm amazed that that's not on here either,
Starting point is 00:34:45 because, yeah, no. I haven't read it. I'm not, I'm not surprised. Like I said, it's kind of neat. Oh, I'm sorry, Lassarge, you're absolutely right. That is Scott McLeod. I'm thinking of how to understand comics on Scott. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It's the really cool little, little cheeby-looking artwork of, Did he have to do a book, though? I thought I did an art book, too, do you know? I don't know. I'm sure he has, because I love his art. I've got a bunch of Scotty Young pins. The Scott McLeod book where he basically talks about composition. Everything.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Like frame composition is one of my favorite things. It's so good. It's a must read. There's a Marvel coloring book of Scottie Young stuff, which is just awesome. It's my favorite. Oh, that's cool. Oh, yeah. I would color that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Love his little little character, Cheeby-looking characters. I really feel good about the one I thought of while Brian. Ryan was thinking. So I'm going to say it and hope that Jaina and I are victorious with this one. Scott Pilgrim, please. Oh, that's a great one. Versus the world. The world.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The world. You need this. Like, you need this to stay in the game. I know. Brian is currently leading, and this is your last chance. If you get a strike here, then the game is technically over. Please be on here. All right, show me Scott Pilgrim versus the
Starting point is 00:35:58 world. That's a really good one, though. Are you kidding me? Number 13 in the list. How can that be? That was a really good one though. That was a really good one, yeah. Before you pull it, I'm curious what was Invincible on there. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Oh, well, Dunaway still, you have slots, Dunaway. Do you want to try one? I mean, he's already won. I'm curious, is Invincible on there? Yeah, number five is invincible. Damn it. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:30 wait wait can i guess another one oh sure oh now you can guess yeah now we can guess can i guess some more yeah um i remember uh nicole spag when i visited them uh mark was reading something that he recommended and i know a lot people love it it's called chew oh chew is so good yeah that's such a weird weird comic or chew i haven't read chew but chew is uh not uh here we go let's just give you make it official here uh chew um only a couple people said chew How about Axe Cop? Is that... 20...
Starting point is 00:37:02 Oh, I love Axe Cop. No, here, let me just... Why don't I just show you the answers that aren't on here? Now, I'm going to preface this begin by saying... This is it... This is the Tadpool said. What the Tadpool said. All right, so let me see, number seven.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh, God, X-Men or something stupid. Archie... Archie. Archie... Archie's okay. Archie... Archie comics. Don't know what you say Alpha Flight.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That would be funny if someone did that Alpha Fly, because they thought it was... Yeah, Apple Flight. It's a Canadian comment, right? Because it's Canadian, yeah, they'll just think, no, it's not Marvel, it's Canadian. It's not Marvel. Show me number eight. Lock and key. Lock and key.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Oh, lock and key. These are all great things that came on Netflix, right? Yeah, like you think of, Riverdale, adapted recently. Yeah. Now, here's where the tadpool skids and goes off the road. Number nine. Why the last man? Which was Vertigo.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Vertigo, which is DC. Yeah. So that doesn't count, you bastards. If anyone said, if this last one is Watchman, I'm going to break something. It's better not be watching. If this last one is what? Watchman? I'm going to shit myself.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Gosh. Oh, my God. Commence shitting yourself, Scott, because number 10 is indeed Watchman. That is not a, that's a DC property. It is. They were purchased from another, all the characters were purchased from another publisher. But yeah, the Watchman proper. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:38:28 They weren't even purchased. No, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, uh, Alan Moore didn't want DC to use them for anything else, but it was still a project for DC. It was a vertigo project for DC. Now, can we count, you know, uh, Charlton Comics, which, which owned those characters. Right. Before. Before.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I can't really do that. Uh, yeah. And rounding out, I mean, Sandman was vertigo and, and that was number 12, uh, Umbrella Academy. Yeah. Was that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's I thought, too. I thought they were
Starting point is 00:39:00 Dark Horse. Is that Dark Horse? I thought they were. I don't think it's DC or Marvel. Yeah, they're Dark Horse. Okay. Yeah. Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah. Let's see. Gabriel and Tharker. Yeah, Dark Quest. Sorry. Oh, that's right. Ooh, ElfQuest had boobs in it. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 You'll never forget. No, never forget. Never forget. Never forget the Elfquest boobs. Did you say the Max? I love the Max. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I was going to say the Max, but I thought, no way. Does anybody remember the Max except for me? It's not on the top 10, that's for sure. But Fathom was even less. And I thought Fathom was more popular than the Max, but whatever. Death Note, East of West, Lumberjains, Atomic Robo. Fables, great.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, that's a good one. But I want to say that was Vertigo, not Vertigo, but it was a, it was a, it was a. It could be black label or whatever that's called now. Black label, yeah. Did you say Witcher? Did we finally guess Witcher? Witcher didn't make it
Starting point is 00:40:01 One person said Witcher but Witch Blade had quite a few. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I did say Witcher. I'm sorry, which blade, you're right. Michael Turner. Cerebus, I think the first comic I ever read that wasn't Marvel or DC was Cerebus.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Is the darkness on there? The darkness on there by chance? The darkness? I don't see the darkness. I don't believe in a thing called the darkness. All I see is the darkness. The Sylvestery joint. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I think Turner did a lot of art for that as well. Danger Girl, Gen 13, a couple of image titles. What was Tank Girl on there? Tank Girl was on there. Do you see where Tank Girl got pulled from Paramount Plus as well? No. Really? Is it nowhere now?
Starting point is 00:40:44 I don't think so. I saw it on Tubey, but my one chick behind me. Chewerey. That makes me mad. We've been trying to get Tankerrell for years. I know. Why do they do this? Hold on. Let me double check. It still says it's streaming on Prime. Oh, Prime. Yeah. Prime. Oh, Prime. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Oh, it's still on Prime. I legit Paramount Plus. Okay. I thought it was getting pulled from Prime and that... Maybe it still is. It just hasn't been yet. I thought Prime was getting pulled and then it was backed up was Paramount and then it left for sure on Paramount. So just checking. Okay. Prime and Prime is one of the services that kills stuff at the end of the month. So we're safe.
Starting point is 00:41:28 We're safe for 30 days. We hope. Yeah, because it's the first today. Yeah, we're good. We're in Fat City. Never mind, everybody. Taintgirls still happening this week. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Watch for it. Cool. All right. Well, this sucks because Jaina lost. I hate this. Me too. Jayna, how do you feel about your loss? Slightly despondent, trying to figure out how I'm going to go explain to my lovely little 10-year-old boy
Starting point is 00:41:52 that he's not getting the city skyline expansion. Exactly, right? Now we may have to work something out, Brian. Because I'm a sucker for the kids. All right, well, here's the other thing, too. This can't be as bad as when Arthus died. That must have been much worse. She were grieving when Arthus died.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Oh, wait, you're not that, Jaina. Just kidding. What a hilarious joke of me. It's actually from that Jena, though, as how I got that name. Oh, that's cool. I like that. My name my dog Rainer. And, you know, our cat is named Decker after Deckerdkeard Kane.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Got a lot of blizzard names going around. You do. Way back when I played roller derby, I took her name Jaina Poundmore as my derby name. Jana Poundmore? That's also a great porn. I was going to say a porn parody that we hadn't thought of. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:42:41 All right. Hey, Jena, you're always a winner to us, and I hope you call in and play again so that we can somehow figure out a way to get you these prizes one day. Yeah, you were about to say something? Real quick, can we make up for it by me promoting a new podcast?
Starting point is 00:42:55 that I'm doing with Catpool's own Tanner. Yeah, you and Tanner. I've heard a little bit about this. Tell us more. It's the paranormal peep show. It is a look into the bizarre and strange. And, you know, the stuff that you just absolutely love, Scott, ghost stories, UFO, so things like that. I'll lay on the sarcasm sticker next time I say that.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I'm into some of that. Like, is it haunted houses and crap like that? Like real, not like movies and stuff, but like real phenomena. Not like cune on, but more like haunted. Like real. Yeah, right. So our first full episode just dropped this past Sunday. It's about the case with the haunting in Connecticut where the devil made me do a case from the latest conjuring in 2021. So this possession where they actually thought that we're going to use the devil possessing this person as an actual defense in court. Oh. That's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah, I like that. Well, I already like you and I like Tanner a lot. So this seems like a no-brainer. People should check it out. What's the name, paranormal peep show? That's the name? it's the paranormal peep show you can find it wherever podcasts are sold or go to ramblingnerd.com
Starting point is 00:44:02 nice and by sold we mean giving away for free everybody um all right excellent stuff always nice to talk to you and uh i hope next time i'm a better teammate if you end up with me we'll see we'll see you tomorrow morning for the next uh first half of the show yeah that's right yeah first half only half that's all you get uh well done away that was a lot of fun and also last night you and i did uh play retro It was fantastic while I cooked meat on my heater by accident. And we, I didn't tell you on the air, but I got it. I heard it earlier. I heard we was talking to I bit.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah, but while you were, I didn't tell you while we were recording because I, because I smelled it. And I didn't know what I was smelling. And I, and I remember thinking, should I, should I bring this? So I even mentioned this. And I just thought, I'll just live through this. Always, always mention odd smells. I'm always down for that. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It's always a good conversation starter. Next time. Do you have anything going on? week you want find folks to know about besides that of course uh we've got i i guess we're doing tank girl for film sac if you're not already a film sac patron we just launched our uh our patreon so we did patreon dot com for slash uh film sac uh having a lot of love there yeah looking forward to tank girl i suppose yeah no i i am i suppose i barely remember the comic and never saw the movie so for me this is going to be a whole lot of fun and it's post apocalyptic and that's
Starting point is 00:45:25 You know how I feel about that? Yeah. I love that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brian Donaway, everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Kiss our butts. No, no you. Okay. Bye. All right. They didn't kick him out fast enough. That was weird. No.
Starting point is 00:45:39 No. You were supposed to do that mid-voice. Yeah, mid-voice. What am I new here? Have I just learned this? What is wrong with me? All right. Hey, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:45:50 When we come back, Tom Merrill will join us. Got a little tech time to discuss. We got recommendals with Randy after that. One week away from Nicole rejoining us and it will become a foursome, a foursome event. Oh, we can play through now because we're a forsome. That's right. Is that how it works in golf? Can you do that?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Is that a thing? Well, I mean, you play through just because you're faster than the people in front of you. It doesn't matter if you're one sum, a two, some, a three somewhere, four of some. I only play video game golf, so I've never actually been exposed to that. You've never, no one's ever asked you, hey, can we play, like Luigi doesn't come up behind me and say, hey, can we play? We play through. Amario, let me play through. I can do that voice all day.
Starting point is 00:46:30 All right, we're going to take that break, but we need music to take it. So take me there. Yeah, and really quickly, this indie in the middle is brought to you by Seekersauce at Seekersauce. Full disclosure, I work on these people's website. However, they sent me jars of their salsa. Yeah. And this stuff is freaking fantastic. It is like smoked salsa.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I don't make any money if you buy their salsa. I am doing this purely because this stuff is amazing. And their habanero is not overly hot, but it's all got this amazing smoked flavor to it. And seekersauce.com, named after their dog. Nice people, too. Oh, Seeker the dog? That's amazing. Seeker the dog.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Seeker. All right. Let's get to the song. Our indie in the middle comes to us from a dude named Mark J. Giddon, Gidde, E.N. He's a singer-songwriter from St. Albans in the U.K. And he grew up listening to folks like Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Pixies. He friended a band called Traveler before he got involved in other projects. And now he is doing a little solo thing with Nub Music.
Starting point is 00:47:39 This is his debut album. I'm sorry, I'm going to take that back. His debut album came out in 2019. This is from his upcoming album. The song is called Is She Fly? All right. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Thank you. We used to look, but now we choose in my mind. I'm always thinking how to lose that of kind. Back down in where we want to go. I've got a feeling and I don't know what it's going to You're back to see me Stopping anywhere I've got to tell her that I want to love her
Starting point is 00:49:00 If she's like Oh yeah, yes she's like You say you came in a vehicle But now she's coming over You can see it all You say you came in the final girl But now she wants your number Tell me is she fly
Starting point is 00:49:15 Oh yeah she's like I'm looking over at the wall. It's in my dream. I just can't face another ball. I must this seem. Back down here where we want to go. I've got a reason and I don't know if it's going to show. Vaccine leaves Don't be anywhere I've got a feeling that I want to rub
Starting point is 00:49:51 But is she fly Oh yeah Is she fly You say you came in a meet her girl But now she's coming over You can see at all You say you came in a fire girl But now she wants you numb and tell me
Starting point is 00:50:06 Is she fly Oh yeah Is she fly Thank you. I seem to recognize the imperfection what I say now that I found the new infection. Was it ready me who said? Please let the fever catch me in a scene. Then I'll believe her caught me in a dream.
Starting point is 00:51:41 She's painting flowers with the rain to make them grow and live again. live a game if I'm not over you, well at least I'm over me. Open your mind your mind to Dungeons and Dragons computer game from Mattel Electronics. It will lead your imagination down at Dungeon Labyrinth, wherein lies the Dragon's treasure. Money is honey. This is the morning stream. All right, we're back. Who was that one more time?
Starting point is 00:52:59 That was Mark J. Gidden with a song called Is She Fly? Came out May 27. So less than a week old, it's a bouncing baby single. Oh, well, do this, send money for the shower or whatever you do now. Spoiler alert, turns out she is fly. She's pretty fly. for a white lady. It doesn't rhyme as well, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:21 No, it really doesn't. It's weird. It turns out the guy part is sort of important there. All right, here's this bit right here. Whoops. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is wearing the coolest shirt today. My gosh, Tom.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Look at that. That is a beautiful shirt, Tom Merritt. What is it? Why, thank you. Yeah. Those almost look like San Diego Seals colors, and that's who the mammoth just defeated. this last weekend to make it to the finals
Starting point is 00:53:48 in National League lacrosse. Oh, thank you for talking about lacrosse and not hockey. Yeah, well, I know. Oh, I don't know. I could bring up hockey. Let's see. Who's in the finals? I know it's a team that's playing against the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Edmonton Oilers and the New York Rangers. Yeah. Yeah, right. Actually, unlike
Starting point is 00:54:08 most St. Louisans who hate Cranky, I don't really have a problem with the avalanche usually. I always pick avalanche when I play hockey video games. He's called Cranky. Isn't he called Cranky? Cranky.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Crunky. Crunky? It's crunky. But I like the term cranky. Cranky sports. Cranky sports. I always pick the avalanche when I play like a video game hockey game. And I think it's just because it's the closest, the closest team I have.
Starting point is 00:54:36 We don't have a professional hockey here. We have like AAA, whatever hockey. So you have professional. You don't have NHL. No, we have IHL. and they're great. Vegas is probably closer to you. The Golden Knights are probably distance-wise
Starting point is 00:54:50 closer to you than the Avalanche. That's a good point. You know what? Yeah, Missoula is going to have issue with what you just said. I don't want to piss off Chris. He's one of my favorite people on the planet. So I take it all back, Mr. Minton. Hey, he pissed off him.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You just can't win. Yeah, you can't win now. I like you both. They're both my children. They're all good. They're both good. All right, Tom, it's good to have you here, as always. Wednesdays of the day Tom comes on and he talks about
Starting point is 00:55:14 the tech news, he's scouring for a daily tech news show episode, which will happen a little bit later today. I'll be on today's episode as well. And I'm loving being on on Wednesdays, but part of that is because you always have rad stuff to talk about. So what are we looking at today? Yeah, I'm digging in it to it right now, but there's a brand new Android phone from a company called M-U-R-E-N-A that doesn't use any Google surveillance. It tries its hardest to walk the line between, being a functional phone in the modern world and not using any Google apps. So it's its own operating system. It's not merely just a skin on Android like Samsung does.
Starting point is 00:55:56 It's a little deeper than that. And one of the things I'm trying to figure out is how they get their app store to work. They call it the app lounge, but it has all the apps from the Google Play Store in it. Wow. And you can choose to log in with your Google ID in. the app store if you want or not if you want to avoid the surveillance in which case it will protect Google from knowing who you are although you're still using Google pay to to buy apps and make an app payments it's it's odd and one of the ways they're doing that is they're
Starting point is 00:56:32 using a project called micro g that is a clone of google's library of services so that it can still use Google services, but without using the ones from Google, which means the telemetry doesn't go to Google. It's a heck of an attempt. And I haven't even finished digging into it. I'll have more details by the time I do Daily Tech News show. Is there a danger that like Google can say, no, we don't like this, that you're doing this anymore? And then, you know, fork off an OS that this one can't use or or tell them to fork off tell them to fork off i don't think a fork would be the way they would do it because basically what moraine is using is is open source android but they could i i think the more likely thing was they would just send a cease and desist saying your your method of
Starting point is 00:57:27 accessing google play server google play store violates our terms that's boring though however well and that would stop them right exactly right um right I also don't think that Morena would launch this if they hadn't thought about that, right? Sure, right, right. They probably dotted all their eyes and crossed up. They've been working on this since 2017. So it doesn't mean it's impossible that it would happen, but Morena thinks they've worked it out. And that's what I haven't found if they've actually contacted Google and Google said, yeah, no, you can do that.
Starting point is 00:58:05 That fits the terms or whether they're just hoping they don't get to. trouble. These things are not usually as simple as like Google will put a stop to it, but it's not impossible that Google won't have an issue with it. However, it's a $369 mid-range phone that runs Android and uses Play Store apps and tries to protect your privacy as much as possible. And that's something that Firefox, Ubuntu, and for different reasons, Huawei, have all tried to do in the past and haven't succeeded, but none of them use the Google Play Store this way. This is the secret sauce that Morena is trying. I'm not sure if it'll fly with Google, and I'm not sure that it will convince people
Starting point is 00:58:52 when they're saying, okay, you're protecting me from Google, but also you're not protecting me from Google, because Google Play Store is involved, and they're going to know something about me, but they are trying to strike a balance and say, yeah, but it's better than a fully logged in Google phone if you're worried about perhaps. privacy. Yeah. So, okay, so a couple things come to mind here. The fact that it's the same store content, meaning even, you know, purchased premium
Starting point is 00:59:16 products that Google gets a cut of, right? So some of that stuff's just not free to play. Some of it's like, let's say it's a $3 game or something. Google still gets their chunk in this scenario, I assume? Yeah, yeah. Money-wise, that may be why Google's okay with it, right? And yeah, who said this, a Dice Tomato. The other thing Google could do is just block access to the API.
Starting point is 00:59:38 for Morena, I suppose. But again, they're using a clone for services. So they would be able to block them out of the App Store, but they wouldn't necessarily, you know, there may be N-Runs around it. Again, there's lots of little details here. But, yeah, I'm sorry. What was your question?
Starting point is 00:59:57 My main point is it feels almost like they're side-loading Google. Side-loading the Play Store, I should say. And that's a weird kind of meta perspective to look at it this way. But I guess my question is, well, it's the same as Brian's. Like, what would motivate Google to take action here? And it sounds like they are prepared to go for it thinking they are good. But if Google's not losing any money on it. Yeah, then why would they care?
Starting point is 01:00:28 I mean, the money they lose would be tracking. Yeah, that was it. Does Google get their money? Yeah. On the Play Store side, you use Google pay. So Google's getting all the money they would normally get if you were just using the Google Play Store. It's the telemetry that, you know, the data, which is also valuable to Google, that they wouldn't be getting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And they, I guess maybe this also depends on uptake. Like, let's say these guys sell three million phones. That's a lot. And Google may go, oh, wait a minute, we can't, you know, this is too much lost telemetry data. This isn't. That could be another bet that Google says, well, this doesn't violate things so much that it's worth. having the public backlash of picking a fight with them, they'll probably not be successful anyway. That could be an approach here as well. There's some other things that I haven't got to
Starting point is 01:01:15 yet. There's a VPN it uses to try to protect your browsing history from Google, you know, from the bit of Google that can see what you're doing from getting through. And that can cause problems if you're, you know, using maps and it thinks you're in Singapore. Because not all of the VPN's endpoints are, are near you. So, yeah, there's a, there's a, there's a lot to dig into here, but it's an interesting idea and, and certainly thinks about a lot of the things that kept Ubuntu or Mozilla from having successful Android-based non-Google phone operating systems in the past. And right now, we've only got two operating systems, folks. It's iOS and Google's version
Starting point is 01:02:01 of Android. You know, you can talk about Samsung. You can talk about One Plus, but they are all using Google services. They're all using Google underneath what is essentially a skin, even if they add their own Play Store like Samsung does. So it's, this is a different way of saying, let's try to strike the balance. I'm not sure it strikes enough of a balance yet or not. I still need to look at some more of the details, but it's definitely a fascinating approach. Yeah, which be great to discuss on the show. These kinds of machinations are always interesting to me. So we will, we'll deep dive. I was going to say deep dig, but that's not a thing. We don't deep dig. We're going to dig deep dig or dive deep dive. We have to deep dig before you can deep dive. Well, I wish you well on your deep digging as we get ready to deep dive. Tom Merritt, anything else going on? Been loving your newsletter lately. It's been great. Anything else? Oh, thanks. Yeah. I'll probably send off what I what I find on this. to the new substack, TechTom, like TechTime,
Starting point is 01:03:04 TechTom.com. And that'll go out to all the users. And there's also some extra stuff in the works for people who support me on Substack as well. So go check that out. TechTom.com.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Very nice. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. You know him, you love him, but do you follow him on Twitter? Is it ASTECT? D-Tect with a D in the middle. Go follow them. You probably already are.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Spelling it. Yeah. Have a fantastic rest of your day. you soon for the Daily Tech New Show. Thanks, man. Talk to you soon. See you. Thanks. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now what? Oh, Randy. It's Randy time.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It's Randy time. How about he's super upbeat today? Just feel it. All that. All that. Launching Diablo and Moral. I've been drinking nothing but espresso and playing Diablo one team or whatever the heck. Exactly. There it is. Diablo won something. All right. Here we go. Hey, look who it is. It's our old pal, Randy, joining us from a recommendal. Randy, welcome back. How are you?
Starting point is 01:04:05 Good morning, morning. I am so glad to be here where I have prepared. I'm prepared. I'm 100% prepared to talk about sandwich shops. Okay, so. Okay, go, go for it. First of all, first of all, I can't believe how many garbage sandwich shops there are now. Like, I don't think you could have a sandwich shop 30 years ago and put out the garbage that so much. many of them are lately, like the last 10 years. Give a list of sponsors we're never going to have. But like, you're never going to have Quiznos as a sponsor because they went from 4,700 locations to 175 locations. Yeah, we don't even have one near us at all anymore. And they went that direction because they started serving garbage. Like they went from, I remember really liking Quiznos like 20 years ago. Yeah. So, you know, like Subway. Subway used to be edible. Right? They were like, but, but you remember, if you remember subway being edible, you remember before 2008, right? After the 2008 recession, they just wildly reduced the quality of their ingredients. That's, that's really what it is, right? Scott, I mean, yeah, fair enough. I mean, like, Panera is a joke right now. Panera. Is it Panera? I thought it was Panera. No. Panera. It is Panera. Whatever you want to call it. It's, it's a joke. I want you to know. I, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:28 everyone needs to know schlatskies used to be mind-blowing they used to be so good 30 years ago schlatskies would have been my number one sandwich shop yeah and nowadays like you go you go and get a schlatsky sandwich and taste the bread and what it will remind you of is when it was good like the bread would be oh a reminder i think used to be good this is garbage that weird like soda bread they used to use i don't know if they still yeah it was like a like a circular with uh like it had been fried after it was baked It was so good With all the olives on there
Starting point is 01:06:02 Had like air holes all through it And So I just want to give you my top five sandwich shops These are all really close None of these are like so much better than the others I go to all of these Number five is which witches Oh I like witch witch yeah
Starting point is 01:06:16 I don't think they're in you know Top three at all Because like their quality is okay But the fun of writing on a paper bag When you're ordering that's just like Is that fun? I do like They're homemade potato chips.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Their homemade potato chips, you know, elevate them a little bit, but they don't, yeah. Number four is Pop Belly. Oh, I love Pop Bellies. I can always go to Pop Belly. Like, everything, I think everything there is real consistent, real good. I completely agree, yeah. My number three is Firehouse. They're a bit pricey.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yeah, a little high. I would probably have them at number one if their prices were in line with the other two, with the top two for me. And Firehouse excels in hot sandwiches. Like if it was just a hot sandwich competition, they'd be number one, right? Yeah, that's exactly right. My top two are cold sandwich places. Yeah. So my number two is Blimpy, and the reason why is their bread.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Oh, my God. Is there still Blimpies? You can go to a blimpie? There's still blimpies. None near me, and it's a travesty. There used to be one near work, and my buddy Allen and I would drive from the office 30 minutes. We had an hour for lunch. we would drive 30 minutes to Blimpys, bring it back, and we'd use up our whole hour and
Starting point is 01:07:31 traveling, but then we'd eat at our desks while we were working at a lot. They used to be a hundred of them around me, and they all went away. They're just gone. A lot of people think that Blimpie is a subway copycat, but it's actually the opposite. Blimpy existed first, and a lot of what subway chose to do was a rip off of what Blimpie was doing. Yeah, I did prefer. I preferred Blimpie in the day, but now I just don't have the option. I just, yeah, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, they have never changed their bread recipe and process one iota it is exactly like it was like 30 years ago if you go to blimpi.com the store locator locator uh they've got blimpies all over the country except in the like everything uh like a uh 500 mile stripe or 200 miles stripe
Starting point is 01:08:19 to the east of the rocky mountains yeah it's like yeah what do they do they just squire scorched earthed it, man. They were just like, that's it, we're done. They totally did, yeah. The store lorocator, yes. This is me all. My number one is Jersey Mikes. It's the bread.
Starting point is 01:08:35 It's the, it's the meats. It's like the process. I think Mike's way is genius. I want you to know. I want you to know the way to order Jersey Mikes, Mike's way, and not end up with a soggy sandwich when you get home. On the side. Juice on the side. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Oh, okay. Just tell them, before you say Mike's way, say, I want mayo on the bread and Mike's way. Oh, okay. So let's add some more calories to keep my bread from getting soggy. But they will wipe, they will wipe mayo on that bread, and then that protects the bread from everything else. And what's great about that is just the use of the word wiping mayo on the bread. A more appetizing description of sandwich what they do.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Dump some mayo on a table, wipe it up with the bread. Right, exactly. And I think about Jersey Mikes is, like, as you can tell, I really care about the quality of the bread. Yeah. And Jersey Mikes not only makes a great bread for the sandwich, they will make that thing 25 inches long. Like you can go in there and say, I want a huge freaking sandwich and they will bring out this
Starting point is 01:09:38 piece of bread. Yeah, they'll do it. They don't have any problem. Plus, they cut that meat right there while you watch them. It's not in some pile. Oh, it's great. Jersey Mikes is so, there's a Jersey Mike so close to me, it's dangerous. Like I can, I can walk there.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I could be there in five minutes walking to Jersey Mikes. I have two jersey mics closer to me than any in-and-out burger, which is, I think, pretty good. That's good news. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is good news. Also have two witch-witches closer to me than any in-and-out burger. And that's why they're all my list. But also riding on the bag.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I love riding on the bag. Oh, man, you've made me kind of crave a firehouse sub. I'm not going to do it today because I had spaghetti yesterday. I got to go bag a salad today. But tomorrow, I think I'm in for a firehouse. Oh, man. And by the way, I think someone in chat, I don't look at chat, but I think someone in chat said that they wish Mike's way included everything else that they have on the board.
Starting point is 01:10:35 All you have to say is mayo on the bread, Mike's Way, plus everything else. It's like seven words, and you get it all. And they'll give it to you, yeah. You'll get whatever you want out of that place if you just ask. And they're really fast. I'll try that next time I go there. Wipe some mayo on the bread. And they're so excited to help.
Starting point is 01:10:54 you over there, man. They're so stoked. That's the other thing I like about. Well, Mike, who's in his grave now, he's then founded that place in 58, no longer exists. But we're thinking to you. You had it your way. All right. Let's move on to our recommendals for today. That's right. Things we've seen on streaming services that we liked enough that we wanted to bring to the show and tell you about them. Brian, you got a clip here. Any set up for yours before we go. I'm just doing one today because I went to New Jersey where the rest where the sub shops there are just called mics and I only had time to watch one movie and uh but this is a this is a very good one to recommend we discover this one by accident and I'm so glad we did all right here we go I want you to
Starting point is 01:11:39 hurt your neck sounds great neighbor hey Dave is that John Mayer over there no I just I just found my old guitar from high school are you John Mayer? Right, yeah. Second time's charm. Second time, yeah. What are you doing? We're cleaning out the garage to make it a rehearsal space. We're starting a band. For a band? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I used to play drums in high school. Cool. Really? I was in a band myself. Oh, yeah? What was it called? The band was called myself. It was a sort of solo percussive group. You know, jembe, rimba, gonga, bongo, bongo, timbali.
Starting point is 01:12:20 You know, just like, yeah. And you played all of those yourself? I played all of them myself. Wow. The Big Fork Daily called it really very weird. Oh, that's great. Yeah, congratulations. We'll see you.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah. See you around the name. Thanks, Dave. See you very soon. So we have to move. You can't, I know. We have to move. Because that interaction alone is enough.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Oh, he's 100% going to murder us. What is this? I don't know what is this is. I love you, Fred Armisen. I love you. Is that who that is? Yeah, that is Fred Armisen as neighbor Dave, crazy neighbor Dave. But that movie is called Band-A-N-D, B-A-D, Band-A-D, just like the thing you put over a sore or a cut or a scratch. This is the first film directed and written by Zoe Lister-Jones. Who is Zoe Lister-Jones you're asking?
Starting point is 01:13:16 I can hear you asking out there. Who is that? Hey, who is Zoe Lister-Jones, Brian? You know her as the funniest thing on a great TV show called Life in Pieces. She was the character married to Colin Hanks on that show. She's great. She is great. She is the most brilliantly sarcastic and acerbic actress you'll ever see.
Starting point is 01:13:42 She wrote and directed this thing, and it's fantastic. The other person you're hearing there is Adam Pally, who, he was on the show Happy Endings, the Mindy Project. He was also on the show Search Party, which I've recommended a few times as well. This tells the story, Band-Aid tells the story of a couple who fight bicker with each other quite a bit. But they find that when they're playing music together, they don't bicker as much because they're putting their fights into the songs. songs like, you know, why don't you do the dishes and what is your problem? And I don't have, I'm not in the mood for your mood.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It is great. And Susie Esman plays Adam Pally's mother, Susie Esmond from Curbier Enthusiasm. Does she yell things at everybody? Is she constantly yelling? She doesn't. She delivers what I think is the best. monologue about the differences between men and women I've ever heard in any sort of movie or TV show. It is, it's like I was taking it back like, this is coming out of, Larry, what's a matter with you?
Starting point is 01:15:00 That's coming out of her mouth and it's this brilliant. You also get Brooklyn Decker, who we just saw in battleship. You get Hannah Simone, who is Zoe de Chanel's cute friend from New Girl. I'm sorry, Zui DeChanel's cute friend from New Girl. Reda, Ravi Patel. New Girl. Oh, she ended up with Schmidt and New Girl, right? She did, yes.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Jamie Chung. Like, it's a really good cast, and these are all, like, I guess, some of these people are really good friends of Zoe Lister Jones, so they just appear in the film. Colin Hanks even plays the absolute worst Colin Hanks character you can ever imagine, writing in the back of Zoe Lister Jones Uber. Oh, weird. So Fred Armisen, I guess, is in other stuff with her a lot. He's in her. She has something more recent called How It Ends, came out last year. Okay. He's also in that.
Starting point is 01:15:55 So there must be some connection there. Those guys work a lot together. That's interesting. This is currently streaming on Hulu, and it's fantastic. Came on 2017. We saw a preview for it before we watched something else and said, that looks really hilarious. We looked up in Rotten Tomatoes or Rockin Tomatoes. And, you know, Rockin' Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And it's got a really good score there. So we're like, well, let's watch this. And it deserves that score. It's really, really good. All right. And the clip you just played, if you didn't know better, you would just think, oh, that's Portlandia. It does sound.
Starting point is 01:16:29 It's very Portlandia-esque, like that dry, funny. And the whole film is that kind of dry, funny. But I guess what I'm saying is it sounded like Fred Armisen doing that thing that he does only. You know what I mean? Like, like, I, like, I, obviously, I thought I heard Carrie Brownstein and I didn't, right? Like, she's not in Band-Aid, right? Right. But, like, it felt like that thing where, you know, Carrie Brownstein, like, plays off of him and is, like, surprised at everything he says.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Right, exactly. Like, oh, you're saying that again, how funny. Okay. Yeah. Uh, I think that, that level of humor just gets used to great effect in both Portlandia and this. Well, I, uh, I've heard that. that Band-Aid was, like, Zoe Lister Jones, it's, like, known for making this movie without men. Yes, the only men are in the cast.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Every other part of the film is produced with just women only. Oh, wow. Cinematography and all that stuff. Cinematography, editing, music, all that stuff. And I think that's, I think that's just awesome, but I just want to, I just want to know, like, do you think you could see that? Could you, could you tell at all? No, no, the film, I didn't know it. I didn't know it until I looked at the Wikipedia page for it as I was getting my notes together for this.
Starting point is 01:17:47 But, yeah, it doesn't feel like a women are cool and men drool kind of, you know, empowerment thing. But because the story definitely goes into, you know, they're both responsible for the bickering that they do. My favorite trivia about her, it says here she's been in all four law and order incarnations. Oh, really? Yeah, that's pretty cool. characters or different characters she was in the original law and order law and order criminal intent law on order trial by jury law and order the new reboot thing uh law and order special victims unit i think there's one missing here though well anyway four of them though
Starting point is 01:18:28 there's a lot of law and order you know yeah well done you don't see a lot of those you know one off episode actors making their own movies and shit that's great that's really cool and she she's great yeah go ahead the only other thing i want to say is i feel like over the last few months of recommendals that you have been really focused on Hulu. Is it that, is it just like, does it
Starting point is 01:18:52 feel like Hulu is your my own stock to? I'm just kidding. Is it your first shortcut in a list? Like, I'm just wondering what the... Not at all. We, you know, we saw the trailer for this. I can't remember what we were, it was something else that we were watching. And this was the
Starting point is 01:19:08 trailer that came up before it. And we immediately went to JustWatch.com. com to see where it was streaming and it just happened to be Hulu I got to take a look I'm taking a look at QuickTMS.L.I at Recommendals.
Starting point is 01:19:22 It may just be total accident you did that you've seen somebody in between was that that was Hulu but super pumped was showtime yeah the bullshit the game show was Netflix the call was Netflix
Starting point is 01:19:36 Outer range is Prime Pachinkgo is Apple TV Plus It just feels like Hulu, that's all. Mozart was Netflix, Russian doll. Something about Hulu that feels more overrepresented, you know? No, I get you. For me, I always feel like I'm watching way more HBO Max,
Starting point is 01:19:57 but the truth is I think I'm more spread out than I think I am. I'm just not paying attention usually. I think Abbott Elementary might have been, yeah, Hulu, but... Oh, we love that. Did I tell you how much we love that? We loved that. Yes, you did. It is such a great show.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Kim and I ripped through it and loved every freaking second of it. I, uh, we couldn't continue. Like, we watched several episodes. It's like, I, we watched three and we're like, uh, let's, let's give it another three. You know, like maybe this. But you liked, you liked Superstore a lot, right? Very much. I think, I think you recommended Superstore to me before I even watched it. And I feel like that is, it feels like the same DNA, just the school version of, I totally disagree. Oh, I agree with Brian. I think that is very super story. But if anything, I like that it was a little bit more like, I don't know, a little more wholesome.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Like it was just like a really sweet look at teachers and kids and I don't know. I was just like constantly like, ooh, are they really going to continue to portray the principal like this? Like she is, she is a, it is not comfortable to while. Like it is not funny. Yeah. To me. She was hilarious. How they portray the principal of that school.
Starting point is 01:21:03 She's also one of the head writers of the show, the lady who praised the principal, which is interesting. Yeah. And that's, and that, that I always like. I always like it when like the main person making something makes themselves sort of the like the villain or butt of jokes. Sure. Like the on Letterkenny is my favorite example, right? The guy responsible for that show makes himself this creepy preacher. And it's like, oh, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:21:28 Yeah. But it like it works there, I guess, because he's a white man and not a black woman, I think. Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I thought they, I really liked everybody in that thing. I thought, I hope Abbott gets renewed. I assume it is. I think it did get renewed for a second season already.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I'm not opposed to the show. I just like, it just didn't. I just couldn't. Yeah, it's not, I get it. It's like if you, if there's a, especially if a character in a show just starts grading on, for whatever reason. Some people may, may have different tastes or whatever, but if something's grating on you, I could see. Totally. Having to bail.
Starting point is 01:22:03 For sure. I've had stuff like that that I didn't last very long with that. And it's not. And it's not just the, hey, don't make out your black characters to be this horrible. Like, I think the Carmichael show was spectacular. And everyone on that show is a horrible black person. But I just like, the way it gets the message across. Jamie, don't isolate that just one sentence without context, please.
Starting point is 01:22:34 We don't want to hear that mashup. Anyway, I should have recommended the Carmichael show by this point. Like, everyone should go watch Carmichael. Car Michael, all right. I'll put it on my tentative list. Here's my clip. Anyway, Band-Aid, currently on the Ibit family-owned Hulu production. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 01:22:51 You guys are doing real well with that investment. Nice job. All right, mine is a Hulu production, funny enough. Do you always do Hulu? I do a lot of Hulu. Actually, I quite like Hulu, if I'm honest. but I like this show a lot, and I had real concerns before I started it.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I'll explain after. Here's the clip. This team is so fucking bad. Listen, my guy. Shut the fuck up, Sanguinette. What do you want, Shorzy? I want to never lose again. Can you just finish your shit and come talk to me down the hall, please?
Starting point is 01:23:24 Oh, you think I'm shitting, Michaels? I should be so lucky. I'm puking and shitting at the same time. This team is... This team is so fucking bad. I've lost. control of my bodily function. You are the portrait of class, Shorsi.
Starting point is 01:23:38 We get pumped five goose for the 20th loss of the campaign and you say good team over there? They are a good fucking team. Why don't you go over and suck their dicks if you like him so much? Shurzy. San Juanette, you're a healthy stretch on a last place club in the no show. Go for a soda. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:56 So this is Shorzie, the spinoff from Letterkenny about the character, which was the most two-dimensional once-in-a-while character that show ever had, which is this guy whose face you never saw. They had to be careful that they didn't overexpose Shorsi because, like, there were seasons of Letterkenny where you were like, oh, I don't need more Shorsi, right? Yeah, like Shorzy is a very
Starting point is 01:24:17 one-note kind of character. One, I always enjoyed, but you never saw his face. It was always just his feet or some other part of his body. Usually at the hockey gym or something, you know, where what's their name. I forget the two characters' names are always playing. The hockey gym. Yeah, that's what they call it. It was my uncle's name, hockey gym.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Anyway, they decided to Jared Kiso, who's executive producer and also plays Shores. He also played him in Letterkenny. He's also Wayne in Letterkenny. So that's the reason you never see his face. You know it's Wayne. I mean, you know it's Jared Kiso, but you never, you know, half of the joke is it's a little bit like Niles Crane's wife. You're never going to see her.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Sure. But you might know about her or hear about her or whatever. And in that case, you hear Jared Kesa doing these horrible insults to people as the character Shorsi. Well, when I heard they were doing a Shorzi spinoff, I went, you can't freaking do that. That's weird. Like, I understand a couple of other maybe angles you could take with spinoffs for Letterkenny. But Shorzy is such a one-note, one-time, brilliant idea, but not the kind of thing. Like, it's almost like taking a meme and making it bigger.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Or S&L taking a small sketch and making a movie out of it. The Angry Birds movie. done a thousand times. Angry Birds movie, exactly. Which, by the way, is way better than it has rights to be. But the point is, these were my fears going in. 100% wrong about it. It is, it is really good.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And here's why I think it's good. First of all, it's got all that DNA that makes Letter Kenny funny and good. If you like Letterkenny, look, I'll say this right up front. If you don't like Letter Kenny, if you are for whatever reason put off by that, you are not going to like Shoresy. because it's definitely in the vein of Letterkenny. The difference here, though, between Letterkenny and this is that this is almost a traditional sports story. Like, it's almost like, think of any movie or Ted Lasso actually is a really good example of this.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Ted Lasso, you know, the underlying underpinning thing is that we're taking a team of players and trying to get them to be better and win and they haven't won for a long time. and the boss is thinking about selling it. You know, that whole idea is the exact same thing happening here. It's not the same tone as that show at all. But it's a story about a hockey team that wants to win. And the thing Shorzie keeps saying is, you know, I love winning, but I hate losing more. And so that's kind of the vibe of the thing.
Starting point is 01:26:46 But here's what's crazy. They somehow made a movie, sorry, a six-episode arc that is wholesome. in the weirdest way, because you heard from that clip. There's nothing wholesome about what Shorzie's usually yelling at people. If you're offended by the F-bomb, do not tune in because there's lots of that. But there's a sweetness to him that you would think isn't going to work, but it freaking works. It ends up working not only well, but really well. And you end up just loving Shorzie.
Starting point is 01:27:18 You love all the secondary characters they've introduced. There's no other carryover. So no other characters come over. It's just him. And so everybody else is new. And like Letterkenny, they all have their own little quirks and their weird things. I won't even get into the three gyms. The three gyms are amazing.
Starting point is 01:27:34 It's a whole other thing you'll have to watch. I won't spoil it here. But what a wonderful freaking time we had. We sat there. We thought, oh, we'll give it a shot. I don't know about the Shorzie business. In fact, I was most worried they're going to show his face. I'm like, we can't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:47 That's like showing us, you know, Norm's wife on Cheers. You can't show what she looks like. Nope, totally works fine. Totally works fine. It's as soon as Jericho, I think the guy might be a genius, honestly. You give him a different haircut and you let him open his eyes. Yeah, and he also has some of the letter Kenny is he's got the terrible haircut and his eyes are always squinted shut. That's right. He's wearing that plaid shirt all the time. And this thing has got some hair growth on his face. He's got a hat on a lot. He's just kind of a different character.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I saw a review, a list really fast review in this other video I was watching where the guy said, I love this. It's Ted Asso. You know what? That's not bad. that's actually a decent comparison and by the end of it man you are rooting for people you are laughing your head off there's a once again Canadian productions
Starting point is 01:28:34 I don't know what it is there's a sweetness that runs through their stuff even when they're being gross and dirty it's still something in there they got like some kind of weird DNA that makes everything about it kind of nice and kind and heartfelt
Starting point is 01:28:48 even though I just heard the worst insult between two hockey players or whatever yeah like really really early on in Kim's convenience, there's this whole gag about people pranking each other by thumbing each other's buttholes. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And you're just like, wow, I would have a really hard time seeing that on like the office. Right. It doesn't work. There's something about their, I don't know what it is. They got special sauce. So always get the Mike's way and then the sauce. You want the sauce. But anyway, they, it is a wonderful thing. I
Starting point is 01:29:23 recommend it to anybody who even remotely likes Letterkenny. In fact, I think it even if you're like, yeah, I thought Letter Kenny was okay. You might actually like this more. I think I like it more. Partly because it is very, it's much more narrow in focus. It's just this straight like
Starting point is 01:29:40 but they still is full of that wordplay that they're famous for. Like the whole back and forth and sanguineat, this character is one of my favorite characters. Anyway, Kim, me and Carter sat and binged all six of those on Sunday without planning. to and we're sad when it ended and i cannot wait for them to renew it it's great so shorzy uh hulu is we're gonna watch i'm so glad and i'm about to make the exact same case for my
Starting point is 01:30:05 recommendal like i have going to i'm going to talk through everything you just said only slightly different all right here we go let me play it you hit the big time kate hi mom sorry mom so we got this great new cast together but i think we still all had some questions And then, you know, there's, like, there's trepidation just on, you know, how we're older now. Like, is it still funny? Yeah, I was skeptical. I was, I mean... You were the most skeptical, actually.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I was very skeptical. I was like, why... Because we came here, we were all psyched finally, and then you're like, I don't know. I was like, we have to prove it to ourselves that, like, it's a good idea. So let's shoot a couple days, but not commit. And let it tell us that it's a movie. And so the first thing we wanted to shoot was a bit that Steve had actually shot a while ago just to see if the new guys.
Starting point is 01:30:53 could really, you know, keep up. Oh, right up until the end, I was like, I don't know what this is, but I think I know now. A little bit of a big giveaway. This is Jackass 4.5. Yeah. And Jackass Forever came out earlier this year. I didn't come in here and insist that everybody watched Jackass 4. And there's reasons for that.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I feel like if you're the audience for this, you don't need to be convinced. You don't need to be told, yeah. And if you know damned well, you're, are not the audience for this i don't want to try to talk you into it because because it's more of the same yeah it is freaking x-rated like like you literally see a bunch of dudes getting uh you know a uh funnels shoved into their but holes and hot sauce being poured in yeah it is it is if it's if it's not for you to see that i i definitely don't want to talk you into it however if you're on the fence, or if you're somebody who would have watched Jackass 4, but probably didn't
Starting point is 01:31:58 really know about Jackass 4.5, I need you to go watch this. It is so interesting. So what's happening here is they make a jackass movie. And this is, you know, the fourth one. They hadn't made one in 10 years. So there's a lot of stuff, right? They have a lot to do. They make a jackass movie and they make way more movie than they're going to put into the movie. And so like their movie needs to tell a story or a number of stories and their movie needs to all have hits in as far as the gags go yeah and then they have all this other stuff and you realize not only do they have a lot of stuff that didn't make the film a lot of it's really good and it just didn't jive with everything else you know what i'm saying sure they did this with three or not
Starting point is 01:32:42 maybe it was two there was a two point five two and three have the have the follow up yeah and so this is just like that only it's so much better because these guys are these guys are old now yeah they're my age they're in their they're 50 52 51 they're older they're like us yeah me and brian yeah yeah and so for in a lot of ways you're looking at this like this is their swan song they have introduced a whole new crew of much younger stunt people to their to their group and when you watch jackass forever you're going to go oh wait who was that like you're going to see them you're going to see rachel wolfson and poopies and zach holmes and i'm I'm forgetting the fourth person.
Starting point is 01:33:21 What's his name? Oh, gosh, he's a black dude. Dave, Davon Wilson. Devon Wilson. Devon Wilson. And Devon Wilson's dad. They come as like a pair into this thing.
Starting point is 01:33:33 And his dad is named Dark Shark. Yeah. And you're like, I'm interested in these people and you don't get enough of them in the movie because you already have Johnny Knoxville and Steveo and Chris Pontius and Dave England and Aaron, uh, Danger Aaron and so on. Did, uh, wait, hold on a sec. Did Dave England poop? Do that happen?
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yes, absolutely. Yes. He's always pooping that guy. He poops all the time, that guy. Yeah. And like Preston Lacey has always been the big man, right? Yeah. Well, now they've added a younger version of him, Zach.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And Zach is bigger than Preston Lacey. And so there's all these things in Jackass Forever where you're like, I could stand for more of that. Guess what? Here it is. You're going to get all this behind the scene stuff in 4.5. And you're going to get to hear people like Johnny Knoxville and stevo and chris paunches talk about what it's like to find rachel wolfson out there
Starting point is 01:34:25 and add her to this group and what you know like their trepidation and their experience and so on and it's just like i'm sorry it's better than jackass four jackass four five is better than jackass four yeah i thought all the all the point fives were better than their than their original uh things i don't know why they didn't put that out it's weird to me there's about 15 stunts in jackass four five that I was just shocked by like I was just like wow I love this there's a like there's a stunt near the end of jackass four five where uh they have Eric Andre they always have all sorts of extra people right they have Eric Andre and they all dress up in these sort of clown suits and he's the main person in front of the rest of them and they have a tennis pro come and serve tennis
Starting point is 01:35:13 balls at them as fast as she can hit the balls and And they're asking her to aim for their jump. It is so funny because Eric Andre is appalled that she keeps aiming at him. And, oh, they all go down one by one, right? And Eric Andre ends up being the last one standing and she eventually takes him down. No, I'm sorry. Stivo is the last one. Oh, he's always because he's a crazy person.
Starting point is 01:35:40 By the way, he's also, he's also the youngest. He probably doesn't at this point. I think he's the youngest of the group. Let me see here real quick. oh we man might be a year younger but he's like he's like 47 48 that's the youngest jackass traditional jackass member um and there's no bam in this right it was a controversy he was uh too drunk or too stoned they've let go of bam margera like a long time ago they're he's they're so far past him like it's that you don't even really notice that bam margera used to
Starting point is 01:36:07 be a thing yeah he's super sad and i guess suing them but outside of uh i would say 4.5 is more about danger aaron than anything Really? Because Aaron is such a, he's such a, he always gets screwed, man. They always do the worst things to him. I always feel so bad. And the thing is Jackass Forever has some of that. But they apparently went and really took him to pillar to post. Like, like there's many gags that you didn't see in Jackass Forever that are just them trying to injure Danger Aaron. And they don't fit in Jackass Forever. And the reason they don't fit is because his reaction to being. pranked is unlike everybody else's. Everyone else, when they get pranked, the first thing they do is start laughing hysterically. And the first thing he does is complain. It's like, he can't stand it. And so, like, you can only take so much of that in the movie.
Starting point is 01:37:00 But in 4.5, oh my gosh, do they let you see all the ways that they unleashed on this guy? In the third one, he's the one where they put, they gathered up all of their pubs and made him wear him on his face because he thought it was like, you know, like stage. gum fake beard stuff and covered his face with it so he could like meet with his guy then it was like they had somebody pretend to be a terrorist
Starting point is 01:37:23 they threw him in a trunk I mean I don't know how that guy's just not dead of like fright I don't know how they do it with Aaron poor guy and I want to and I want to really underline the point of four or five is to give you more of the introduction
Starting point is 01:37:35 to the new jackass crew so is that the plan you think they got a whole they want to do more absolutely absolutely there's no doubt in my mind that they are already working on the next thing with those guys because they're all young enough that they can just get right back to work.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Yeah. Yeah, they can, these other guys are, you know, I'll admit to something that's a little bit weird. I don't know if I'm the only person, but I think it was three, but so this 10 years ago, 2010 or a little more than 10 years, 12 years ago, was when three came out, 3D or whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:05 And part of that, they had a promotion where Weezer made a song for the jackass crew. Yeah. And I saw the video for that, and it's just a bunch of those guys laughing and hanging around and smacking each other in the head and just hanging out or whatever. And the combination of those visuals with that song and how long time I've been a jackass fan, I cried. An adult man, I freaking grown-ass man cried because I thought that was just so, I don't know why. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 01:38:39 These guys, you know, poop on each other and kick each other in the nuts, but it's weird. That is the reason I'm recommending four or five. I was moved to a lot of emotions watching it because you're seeing the end of the era. You're seeing like these friends that you have hung out with on occasion for two decades. And you're seeing them all, they'd love each other. Like the behind the scenes on the first big scene of Jackass Forever is, you know, like just to put in really basic terms because I want people to watch. I don't want to spoil it.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It's basically Chris Pontius is doing a thing that involves his genitalia. Of course. That was always his job is get his wiener out and do things about. And it's a very difficult stunt. And he's really like
Starting point is 01:39:32 he's spending all day trying to get this thing done. And his genitalia at one point aren't cooperating. And they've got an entire film crew. They are on a film set. at a back lot in Hollywood. And they've got a whole crew around him. And someone just needs to go in there and use their hand to move his genitalia and hold his
Starting point is 01:39:54 genitalia in place. And you know who does it? Johnny Knoxville does. Knoxville does. Yeah. And you will never, in Jackass Forever, you will never see that or know that. But you find out in four or five, he's getting in there under the set and moving around and He's using his hand to hold Chris Pontchus' junk in place.
Starting point is 01:40:16 And, like, on his way in, he's making sure he's got consent to do that from his friend. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. It's just like, you just see that. And there's like, there's just an aspect to it. And maybe it's just guys like us. You know what I mean? Like, maybe this, this would not at all have any feelings for my wife or something, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:35 It's an important, Jackass is a Gen X thing that came. around the time that we were all young 20s and we could not believe what these guys were doing and it was on television and it was just there's something about this and that era that is hard to define and it sounds like they're you know they're sewing it up nicely in this new yeah they really are and it really is a guy thing like there's multiple times over the 20 years of these guys where you've seen people like stevo and we man and johnny knoxville basically just injure each other to their face, like walk up to them with a gun that shoots a boxing glove and shoot it into their face. Yeah, at point blank and it freaking hurts. And the first thing that
Starting point is 01:41:22 happens after that is we man laughs and hugs the man who just shot him. Yeah. And that's like something that I think for a lot of people like me, I kind of wish I had that in my life, that sort of thing, you know? Yeah. So it's, yeah, on my list. Meant to see Ford still have it. I'll just skip it and do 4-5. Go right to 4-5. I really want you to see Jackass Forever, though, Scott. Like, 4-5, like I say, it gives you so much more background on the new people. And so, like, that you need to see them in that order.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Like, you're going to see 4-5 and go, okay, I need to understand why they're so impressed with Rachel Wolfson. Like, she does a couple of stunts in Jackass Forever that will have your jaw drop. Wow. You'll be like, I can't believe a woman is doing this. That's great. I'll take her over Ban Margarra. Plus, she's funny. She's a stand-up comedian, right?
Starting point is 01:42:13 I think. She's a stunt person first and foremost. Oh, okay. She's got this thing where, you know, like they found her on Instagram posting herself doing jackass stuff. And you just got to see black ass forever. I just don't want to, I don't want to ruin it. Like I say, there are a couple of moments in Jackass Forever where she hits the pinnacle of what
Starting point is 01:42:35 Jackass does in terms of taking it, you know? Yeah, as long as she doesn't put it. poop. I'm good. No poop. There's no there's no there's no there's no there's no poop or nudity around Rachel Wolfson. That's one thing that they have not at all even touched on. Let did let Dave England have all the poop and the nudity. It's fine with me. You will see the full package of every other jackass person. Gosh dang it. I don't want to see we man's we package. I don't want to see it. But I'm gonna all get naked. All right. Well, there you go. Netflix is where this is. Which is a little bit weird because the movie itself
Starting point is 01:43:08 4 ended up like Prime or somewhere Oh really? It's weird. Yeah, 4 is on Amazon and this 4-5 is on Netflix. Yeah, it's weird. You know, they spend more money than they intend to when they make these things. Yeah. And so they have to go, they have to go figure out who's going to
Starting point is 01:43:24 pay them back for it. Boy, you should see the judgmentalness of Lennonade in the chat today. And boy, really not a fan of this stuff. Just has all these ideas about how everyone's wrong about Jackass. And again, like, it's not for everybody, sure. Yeah, and that's, that was my original point.
Starting point is 01:43:42 And I feel like it applies to Letterkenny. It probably, I mean, it probably applies to most anything funny, you know? Yeah. If it's, if you know that it's not for you, I do not want to try to talk you into watching it. I really, really don't. Yeah. But it's, it's definitely for somebody. Like, these guys have legions of fans, it's, you know, and count me among them.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Seriously. Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to it. So watch that on Netflix. Watch mine, Shoresy on Hulu and Brian's on... Band-Aid, also on Hulu. Also Hulu. That's right.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Oh, I can't wait to see Band-Aid. I didn't know what existed. That's great. You're going to love it. This is what we like. Now, next week, look forward to four of us being here. Yes, that's right. Nicole will be done with her move to Missouri and we'll be on the show doing
Starting point is 01:44:28 recommendals again. I can't wait. I love Nicole's take on whatever she's Pushing. Yeah, same. Even the drug she pushes. It's totally fine. Totally, totally, totally.
Starting point is 01:44:39 They all have high quality. Randy Jordan, we'll see you this weekend on film sack. By the way, follow him on Twitter and stuff. Randy Deluxe, because that's where he'll post these movies. I'll also put him in the Discord, the Facebook group, everywhere else that matters. And Patreon bonus episode, Patreon bonus episode. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, going up today, by the way, because it's the first. We do it on the first.
Starting point is 01:44:57 So excited about this. Yeah, it'll be great. I'm serious. I just realized, like, since we recorded this. bonus episode for the Patreon, I've, I've written down like five starts to the next one. Like I'm, I like, I kind of need to talk to you guys because I can't, I can't wait to do another one. Like I'm like, like, let's, let's revisit what we're doing here over the long term because I have so freaking popped right now. Well, it's going to be great. You have four months to think about your next
Starting point is 01:45:26 one. So I don't want to, I don't want to. Like I said, let's, let's keep talking. It's, oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, it'll be great. So check it out. FilmSack.com. Randy Jordan, we'll see you next time. Oh, also. See, he knows the joke, so he leans into it, see. He's ready for it. Yeah, he knows what's up. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Well, that was long. That was. Holy cow. It's almost dinner time. Oh, yeah, it's almost, oh, my gosh, my dog hasn't peed in six hours. Oh, no. What am I going to do? All right.
Starting point is 01:45:57 That's it for the show. Big thanks, everybody, for being here. We'll be back tomorrow with Wendy and all the Thursday business. We'll have read this with Amy and all the fun things we do on Thursdays, but you'll have to come to see it. Either be here live at 9 a.m. Mountain Time or check out the podcast after. And if you are so inclined like Thomas Falk,
Starting point is 01:46:14 you could join us on Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS. He's our newest patron. And very nice to have him aboard. If you want to be like Thomas and find out all the good reasons why you should join, it's over at patreon.com slash TMS. Everything else is at frogpants.com slash TMS, except for the song Brian's about to play.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Hey, Brian. What is that song you're about to play? This song is going out to Chris with a K. Chris Rodin said, Dear Scotty Potty and Guy on the Booth. As another year passes, it's time for another request. Okay, I know I may not listen to this for another year as I'm already really far behind.
Starting point is 01:46:49 I swore to myself that I will only listen to TMS while working. Don't worry, I'm caught up with film sack. That's right, I was off work for over a year and now finally starting to listen to you guys shenanigans once again as I finally got a job designing again. So, Brian, to commemorate this and my birthday, can you please play any song by Ricky Jab? He's a great rock cover guy that I've found via TikTok and thought that the Tadpool would like as well. Once again, thank you to Scott
Starting point is 01:47:14 or thank you, Scott and Brian for the never-ending laughs. And also, Scott, never stopped talking about Mad Max. It just never gets old, signed Chris. Oh, thanks. P.S. Can we vote on? No, I'm just kidding. P.S. Scott, can you play five random sound bites that are one second lung each. Oh, I totally can do that. Yeah. Is this the same guy that? always asks us to do certain uh there's a few people who do that as a matter of fact there there were multiple people on this day with birthdays that they asked for that so weird okay well i'll tell you what let's do okay so second or less that's the goal here second or less second or less all right here we go and let's try that's an image file we'll not do that okay here we go
Starting point is 01:47:55 okay that's nick cage saying oh i'm not hearing it through oh you don't hear it oh i turn that off shit hold on sorry everybody my bad scott knew what he was doing the audience miss it too yeah they didn't hear it either okay here you go all right that's nick cage okay good go on all right then we got this one uh me that's me yelling loud geez uh here's a random one hi birdham oh hey birdams in there nice yeah yeah it's three uh let's do two more okay a little burp i guess is what that was and uh uh this That says Herman Cain snort. I don't know what that is. Oh.
Starting point is 01:48:38 He's not with us anymore, so I don't know what that is. Oh, man. All right. Well, that was fun. Yeah, enjoyed that. All right. So, Chris wanted to hear some Ricky Jab. I had a hard time finding Ricky Jab, and he actually reached out to me and said,
Starting point is 01:48:52 hey, I noticed you haven't played my request yet. Is there an issue? I'm like, yeah, I just couldn't find a song that wasn't super close to the original. Ricky Jab worked on a cover of Olivia Rodriguez's driver's license. And unfortunately, it sounded too much like the original. But he pointed me to a great cover that is by Shane O'Rock and Ricky Jab. It is a cover of Charlie Puth's Lightswitch, but it's done in a J-Rock style, which I love anyway. Here is Lightswitch, J-Rock version by Shane O'Rock and Ricky Jab.
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Starting point is 01:51:47 switch, you've got to , I'm going to say you. Juneteering. Oh, like a light switch. You're coming to come to get, so good,
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Starting point is 01:52:14 stop, again, and, what I'll see you. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. This show bad that only sat down.
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