The Morning Stream - TMS 2313: Whispers of the Sheep
Episode Date: July 5, 2022Arvada. Population: Brian. Well Oiled Date Night. There are FOUR Hobbits. What things do you like about Vegas? Mowing a lawn with a fully exposed John Deere. Thunder Jacket is my Ac/DC cover band. Joh...nny Helmets. Just Salt The Earth. Dude, you've got Adele. They made small talk very small talk. Red Flag Means Someone Barfed. The kart company needs better matchmaking. Conoco: the Funniest Gas Station. He can draw my women any time. 31 Flavors of Omicron with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS, Arvada, population, Brian.
Well-oiled date night.
There are four hobbits.
What things do you like about Vegas?
Mowing a lawn with a fully exposed John Deere.
Lender Jacket is my ACDC cover band.
Johnny Helmits.
Just salty earth.
Dude, you've got Adele.
They made small talk, very small talk.
Red flag means someone barfed.
The cart company needs better matchmaking.
Conoco.
The Funniest Gas Station.
He can draw my women any time.
31 flavors of Omicron with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
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their milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard this is the morning stream hello everybody welcome back to
tms it's the morning stream for tuesday july 5th 22 i'm scott johnson and that's brian ibid
hi brian hello it's revenge of the fifth revenge of the fifth everybody let's do it every month
every month.
Go and put out all the fires and clean up all of the paper wrappers from your legally bought
fireworks that you did until 11 o'clock or 1130 at night last night.
Yeah.
How was your dog?
In the neighborhood where people are trying to sleep.
She's deaf, so she's fine.
This is like, last night was silver lining.
Basically, it was like, oh, it sucks having a deaf dog, except last night.
Yeah.
So who do you, so does anyone need the blanket that?
the tight blankety thing, whatever it is?
Oh, yeah, the Thundershirt or whatever it's called.
Yeah.
Under jacket, whatever it is.
No, you know, we haven't, obviously, since she's been deaf,
we haven't had to put that on her at all.
Thunderstorms come and go, firecrackers come and go, but, uh, yeah, no issues.
We had both yesterday, so I was really glad that I have dogs that don't care about
thunder or fireworks.
They neither are deaf, but they just don't care for some reason.
And I can't quite figure it out.
I mean, Ripley gets a little skittish.
Consider you're lucky.
Yeah, I feel lucky, I do.
But, you know, there's a little skittishness with Ripley once it starts.
She just is like curious, not really freaked.
But Rain is just like, whatever, and tunes it out and lays down and doesn't care.
So we got lucky in that regard with those two dogs.
But I feel bad for everybody else with dogs who get freaked out.
Also, we had really weird wind yesterday.
And all I could think about all day, it was like, oh, man, this is just going to blow that stuff and make fires.
and we're all screwed.
What are we doing?
It's a dry summer.
This is terrible.
And then, I don't know, somehow, miraculously,
as if, as if handed down from heaven,
the wind subsided while the fireworks went off.
So it was okay.
Yeah.
The thunderstorms you had probably helped with that as well.
It did.
Yeah.
We got some weird microbursty stuff prior to all this.
But the worst part was earlier in the day, we had,
Kim had this, like, awesome.
what do you call it
avocado toast type bar
she set up
oh I saw the brunch photo yeah
it is crazy we had all the kids over
it was so good my gosh that food was good
problem was it was blowing so hard outside
we couldn't eat outside which was like the original plan
it was going to be all nice out there and
shaded but it was so windy
it was just blowing everything to pieces so we had to eat inside
but then later in the day it was fine
that all worked out well good yeah
it was okay it's all right now
here's a question yes as you guys all know uh Brian like like Adele and you know
Britney Spears before her uh he hasn't a he has a residency in Las Vegas I do residency in Las
Vegas yes yeah and you're and you were going to go some time at the end of the month but I guess
you had to change it I'm really curious how this all went still still going at the end of this
month just even more closer to the end of this month so it was going to be on the 17th 18th and
I moved it to 10 days later the 27th and 20th
because my buddy Chris Brown, not that one, that email or called me and said, hey, I've got to fly to
California and pick up a car for my daughter and then drive it back to Colorado. Do you want to come
with me? Oh. And I thought about it for a second. I said, no. I don't. That's what I would have
said. Not because I don't think it would be a blast to do that, but because, you know, I've already
got some, you know, some trips coming up in this month and in September, and I need the time here.
But I said, what are the dates you're doing it?
Because I'm actually going to be in Vegas.
You're definitely going to be coming through Vegas.
You'll want a place to stay.
Sure.
Maybe it all times out.
And he says, oh, it's going to be at the very end of the month.
I said, all right, well, let me, let me see what I can do.
Let me work some magic.
So I got on with Southwest.
I got my flight changed.
It was actually $11 cheaper to move it to the middle of the middle of the.
the week. That never happens. That's fantastic. That's great. Yeah, it was going to be a Sunday night and
a Monday or basically I was going to get there Sunday morning, have all day there, then spend the
night, then have most of the day Monday, fly home Monday night. Sunday night's not a great day
to go to Vegas, right? I mean, the crowds are down, but a lot of things aren't open, right? If you,
you know, you want to do some cool, like, I don't know, Jules Verne inspired whiskey tasting on a rocking
a submarine, you can't do it on a Sunday night, but you can do it on a Wednesday, I believe.
Yeah, yeah, they like to have at least, you know, Vegas, one day of rest, please.
That's what they can't like.
Right, exactly.
So Sunday happens to be, happens to be that.
So, no problem changing over Southwest.
I hop on the, um, the M-Life website because I was planning on staying at MGM Grand.
I get into my reservation.
I say, okay, let's change the dates.
They say, oh, sorry, you're going to have to call us.
A little message pops up on screen.
Sorry, you're going to have to call us to get this change.
I'm like, all right, no problem.
So I get on the phone with MGM Grand.
Get somebody very helpful, and he's asking me, all right, what are the new dates?
What's your reservation number?
Okay, let me plug it in and let's get it changed it over.
His system was going a little slow, though.
So in the meantime, he had to make some small talk or, you know, basically say, all right, well, what other plans?
What other things do you plan on doing while you're here in Vegas, right?
kind of like the, do you want me to set you up with tickets or you want to buy some tickets
for Ka or get reservations for Kraftsteak or one of the other many restaurants at the
MGM Grand? I'm like, oh, you know, I'm just there for the night. I'm probably going to, you know,
go hit up a couple restaurants that I know that are upstrip and things like that.
Yeah, it's a cookie. All right.
Sure. Still waiting, still waiting for your reservation to come through.
So what things do you like about Vegas?
they have to make small talk that's great i start laughing and i said oh my gosh i guess uh i guess
you've run out of things for your little for your script there and i'm laughing silence on the
other end like he doesn't laugh with me or anything it's just silence oh that's the worst
he goes no i was just curious about what you liked about las Vegas okay your reservation
your reservations uh switched over all set mystery but thank you for calling mGM grand
click wow what things do you like about Vegas like oh i don't know the high prices the uh old
people blowing smoke in my face constantly the uh the heat uh heat the uh the constant need to walk
through a bunch of crap yeah every every potential super spreader event going through the casinos uh that
you know all that stuff i love it thank you the chad that live under the city the city i love that
there's lots of things to love cities in my mouth sure what
What's not to love about that?
Sure.
But, yeah, poor guy.
I feel bad for it because I was joking and he really seemed to kind of take it personally.
He wasn't in the mood you were in and it was just, it just clashed.
And that's unfortunate because I think I would have heard you laugh and I would have gone,
yeah, I did kind of run out of stuff anyway.
I would have linked into it, but he's clearly not having that kind of day.
No.
Clearly there are more things I like about Vegas than he likes about Vegas.
Yeah.
That's an unfortunate deal.
Well, anyway, but you got it all working.
worked out. You're good.
Got all worked out. Also, since we last spoke, since we, I guess, right before our play
date on Friday, Tina and I went karting. This was a mystery date surprise thing for me. We have
an indoor cart track. It used to be an Al Unser racing, and now it's like Axelrod racing or
something like that. But it's, it's an indoor track with, I think, up to eight or ten go-carts
on it really windy kind of thing um and i'd never done anything like that before right like
you know bumper cars autopia at uh disneyland kind of and then you know driving a real car
that's been my only real experience of um of doing anything even remotely close to that so we get
in there and they're explaining the whole thing to us they said all right well um you know because
of COVID. We don't have the suits anymore. We don't
uh, uh, you know, we don't have the neck bra or the, there was some other thing that
that we weren't going to get because of sanitization and COVID and stuff like that.
Oh, they used to have suits like a jumpsuit type thing? A full on jumpsuit that you would wear.
Yeah. Oh, wild. Okay. I don't know, I don't know why. But, um, but we do get a head sock to
keep, like just basically it looks like a ninja, a ninja deal goes on under our helmets. Nice. Head sock.
Those don't get reused, so I still have mine upstairs.
They're like, oh, yeah, we don't want those backs, sir.
It's a good look for you, by the way.
I'm just going to go ahead and put it on the record that I think Brian looks cool in a head sock.
Thanks.
I'm thinking about wearing wearing like a burka, basically.
There's something about it.
It's like, I can't put my finger on it.
It's because you have no hair bulk, right?
So it's just your, it's the shape of your head.
It's still that same head shape.
It's the kind of guy, like you feel like if somebody who's robbing your house and they're wearing that, for some reason, Brian seems less intimidating in a head sock than other people.
Yeah, but I'd also be very easy to identify in the lineup like, oh, that guy has the same shape as he did when he had the head sock on, so I know it had to be him.
Yeah, and if you squint really hard, he looks like an uncircumcised peen.
Right, exactly.
Yeah.
I get that a lot.
So we get up there and basically they try to, you know, if you've been.
got a big group your group all goes together but when you're just a couple going in there
they're going to pair you up with some other people maybe a uh two some or three some or four some
or something like that so that they can have enough people on the track to keep things moving
because that place was busy i mean it was a constant on a thursday night it was a constant people
on the track people who are not on the track getting in their cars and waiting so that as soon as
the last car is in the pit boom these guys are going and it is like bam bam bam wow uh
You're not redundant.
Ironic to call it a well-oiled machine or coincidental to call it a well-oiled machine.
Because they're all oiled machines, I would assume.
Exactly.
So we're sitting in the waiting area, and they're getting ready to call our number, and we look over and we see a guy pull, you know, he's not going to use the helmets that they provide.
He's got his own helmet.
It's got his name on it.
He brings it in a cloth bag.
He's sitting with some other people who've got their own helmets.
So I'm like, oh, look at these guys.
I'm thinking to myself.
I didn't say it out loud.
But, man, like the ultimate pros.
They're like bowlers, you know, with their own ball.
Yeah.
Right.
Exactly.
Yes.
Sure enough, we, they call our number.
We go out there and we happen to be going out there with the pros.
With Mario Andretti.
Yeah.
With Dale Earnhardt Jr.
With those are the only ones I can name.
Waltrip.
Dennis Waltrip, that's a name, right?
I don't know.
You got me.
All these F1 people.
The people love all the F1 guys.
No idea who they are.
I have no idea.
I mean, I could say Daryl Earnhardt Jr.
Or Dale Earnhardt Senior.
Senior.
That gives me two of them, really.
Yeah, one's a ghost.
One exists.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Oh, Dick Trickle.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, Dick Trickle.
Gosh, dang.
That's right.
And in the sign-up process, you actually get to choose your name.
And you kind of get put on the spot.
It's like, oh, they didn't tell me I'd have to do this.
Of course, it was mystery date.
So I had even less time to prepare.
So I'm like, uh, uh, uh, axel rolled.
Like, like, the play on Axel Rose, the very ham-fisted play on Axel Rose.
I love it.
Tina, Tina's like, I don't know what I'm going to put.
I said, I don't want you to be Mad Maxine.
Yeah, that's great.
That's great.
Came out very well.
So, we get in our cars, and of course, we're sitting there next to Johnny helmets, and, you know, all three of these guys with their pro helmets.
And they're telling us, like, all right, yeah, you can, you know, here's what all the different flag colors.
I mean, there's like six or seven flag colors that you've got to memorize of like, oh, no, this one means stop.
This one means pull over because somebody's faster than you.
This one means hazard on the track.
This one's like, okay, I know final lap.
I know the checkered flag that you're done.
Yeah, I didn't know there were other ones.
I know there's one that's like a yellow flag when someone's wrecked and so everyone else has to slow down or something.
That's the hazard.
White flag means this is your final lap.
So, you know, get ready to wrap it up the next time you see me.
kind of thing.
Wow, they get hardcore about this.
They do.
Red flag means just stop.
Just stop.
There is a big problem on the, on the chorus, so just stop.
Yeah, someone barfed or fell out or something.
So wait a minute.
So let me understand this.
Like, are they trying to do like, are they being hardcore about it or is I,
because I picture like bumper cars or something, you know, where it's a little silly.
Oh, no, you get a, you get a, oh, what's the color they give you there?
They give you a
It's a whole different black flag.
Oh, yeah, black flag.
They give you a black flag if you do something.
If you're like excessively hitting the walls,
if you're hitting the other cars too much,
like you're,
they can tell you're not doing it accidentally,
but that you're doing it on purpose.
Damn.
That means you're out?
It's a green flag.
It's a green flag.
You're right.
And then they hold up a sign that says what you're doing.
You're skidding too much,
which is like, I'm surprised they didn't call me on that
because I was trying to do some drifting.
And I was gunning my gas pedal too soon during the drift.
And I was like, fish tailing is out round corners and stuff.
The fast and the Brian, Tokyo drift out there.
That's right.
So we get out there and, you know, obviously these guys are lapping us.
I mean, we are basically chum in the water for them to, like, zip around.
We're additional obstacles that have been placed there to give them more of a challenge.
I'm kind of chuckling about it. Tina, it is stressing the crap out of Tina, having these guys like constantly zipping around her because they'll flat out cut her off. Well, they'd cut me off a couple times too, but they'll just like, no, I need to be on the far right side going into this turn or I'm not going to maintain my 39 second lap. So they'll like, and cut right around Tina. And I swear to God that she gave the Luigi stare like more than.
once as these guys were passing by her.
For those unfamiliar with the Luigi
Stare, go Google it. It's amazing.
It's an amazing thing. That's great.
So that would stress me out too, I feel like.
I feel like I would be just a little bit having.
It's so funny because I can see you going.
And I can see Tina being more like me going.
God damn it. What the hell's going on here?
The way I look at it's like, you know what?
They pay the same amount as us.
They're entitled to, you know, they shouldn't have to
say, okay, you know, this amount that we paid to do this lap, let's, we'll just, we'll
just, uh, kid gloves it because we've got some newbies on the track.
That said, yeah, for more more of this, I actually blame on the, the cart company or the,
the venue, because what they should do is say, hey, what's your skill level?
How, how much do you do this? And if they find somebody who says, oh, this will be our first
time, then put a little asterisk in our, in our, you know, reservation.
Sure.
And pair us up with other people who've never.
done it before who are a brand new don't put us don't put the the uh greens in with the black
diamonds yeah you're basically describing like first person shooters don't put the newbies in with
the guys who are trying hard all the tryhards should have their own you should figure out a way to
put them where they're supposed to be yeah i guess that's hard to know though right how do you know
i guess if you see somebody bring their own helmet it's a sign yeah i mean you just ask you know
basically when you're sent when you're calling to make the reservations say all right but uh have
you done this before, first time? Oh, no, I'm a regular here. I've even got my own named
helmet. Okay, like, Marri, put this guy here. What's the, what's the MoBA term? We need to know
it there. MR. What is it? Ah, there's a thing. There's a term. E-Peen. No, it's not E-Peen.
It's, uh, your E-Peen is what you show after you've won, but it's, uh, what am I
thinking of here. Oh, M-M-M-R is what Becca smiles. M-M-M-R, that's like a, that's basically
code for, I forget what it actually stands for, but it's basically,
the computer's determining what your skill level is based on your play that you previously had.
Problem isn't with humans, you can't.
I mean, you don't know who's in there.
Yeah, yeah.
So is it cart with a K or C?
That's the big question.
How do these?
Cart with a K, I believe.
Oh, okay.
They're going full Mario Kart there, are they?
I guess they probably all do that.
Yeah, I think Go Kart was always with a, well, I know,
Go Kart I've seen both ways, right?
I've seen it mostly with a K though when I think about it.
Yeah.
Did it have like, so were these, were these, sorry,
gas powered or battery? They were gas powered and you you find out pretty quickly why you wish
they had the suits when you wrap up for the day and you come out of that thing smelling like
you just mowed the lawn with a fully exposed John Deere writing mower. I hate that smell.
You smell like you've been rolling around on the ground at the Conoco basically. Yeah, I don't like
that. By the way, that's a funnier joke because it's a Conoco. Then I
it would have been any other any other gas station brand and i don't even know why why is conoco
funnier that's funnier shell not as funny no no any of them you could have said ex on i would
have gone oh yeah but conico is a great right poll i love that conico yeah so well i'm glad uh that
sounds like fun like i would it was a lot of fun i would do this again in a heartbeat
with the one requirement that it's either with tadpoolers or with family members or friends
I never you know it's like if I ever go there again
it's just not because
you know I like I feel like I've got more of a chance to beat him
I don't care I don't care if I beat my lap or do a faster lap
I really just want to like you know get good at
making the turns and drifting just the right amount and then going
and stuff like that but it's more like
just having a bunch of people that you know that are like
oh man Scott just zipped right by me or oh
coming up on ice warm gonna overtake him
Oh my gosh, I just remember would be a ride on one of those things.
It would be a right.
We saw him this weekend.
Oh, you did.
How's he doing?
Denver Comic-Con, what it's called Fan Expo now, or FanEx for short, was this last weekend.
He's great.
He was working the Wizard's Chest booth.
He works at Wizard's Chest, which is best store, I think, in Denver to get games,
cosplay, costume stuff, magic tricks.
I mean, that place is a.
it sounds awesome it is awesome and it's all done like it's all all like you know done up inside to look
like you're inside a tavern kind of thing that place is so so good so ice form listens to the show and
i just wanted to say uh you and i both have him doing things on the side for us like background
things that nobody ever sees or hears about no but that dude is one of the most like reliable
on point constantly consistently consistently good at doing that stuff and there's
There's no way he gets enough credit for this.
So shout out to ice for him.
That dude's awesome.
We think he's great.
He absolutely is.
So it was so great to see him.
We weren't expecting to see him there, and so it was great to see him.
Also saw Dean Swedberg, member of the Denver Tadpool there as well.
Nice.
It was great to see him.
We actually got tickets free because one of Tina's coworkers, her daughter does the marketing
for Fanax, got this job in March and has been doing all the marketing for this.
She's like her mother.
like Tina's co-worker, zero experience or idea, not an experience,
zero idea what any of this stuff is.
Doesn't know comics, doesn't know anime or sci-fi movies or hobbits or anything like that.
And it's actually really good, we found out, because she, you know, she gets, she's hanging out
in the break room with all these celebrities who are there for signings.
And she's like, oh, yeah, how are those nachos?
Oh, yeah, they look really good.
Okay, can I get you anything else?
Do you want a Coke or a glass of water?
No, you're good.
Okay, fine.
Then she gets up and leaves and somebody says,
do you know who that was that you were just sitting there talking to?
She's like, no, he says, that's Jim Lee, comic artist, Jim Lee.
Jim Lee.
Hang it out with.
Four Hobbits were there, including, you know, Dammecimanhan.
Oh, good.
Those guys, I mean, they're not doing anything else, right?
They're just chilling these days.
No, and freaking Elijah Wood still looks like he's 20.
I don't know how that, I don't know what.
what he's done but he freaks me out that guy's got to be i mean he's 40 or close to it
probably yeah yeah exactly got to be i think uh let me ask you this when you uh you were there
with those people um and uh wait who was the first person you said that you saw and they were like
oh that's you know who that is don't you who did you say well oh jim lee not only is that
comic book artist and writer and creator jim lee that's dc chief editor uh jim lee oh
Oh, right. See, I even forgot about that.
I think, basically, I think Jim Lee, I think image comics, but I also think of that amazing
X-Men, non-uncanny X-Men number one giant five-cover thing that he did.
So good.
It's so damn good.
So good.
Also, if anyone out there, so he's, you know, does a lot of D.C. stuff now, but just going
back through his catalog, Jim Lee is one of the greats, man.
The day he goes is going to be a rough one because, and he's still kind of a young guy.
It's not like he's in trouble or anything.
But he is so good.
And if you've never read Batman Hush, you're missing out.
It's one of the greatest.
And I got the big, fat, hardcovered thing.
It's one of the greatest things, man.
Oh, my gosh.
It's so good.
Well, that's cool.
Dice Tomato, yeah, Wildcats, yes, was Jim Lee.
But Gen 13 was...
Scott.
Who's the guy is just really good at drawing...
Oh, his women.
Incredibly attractive women.
Scott. Shoot. Scott something. Yep, it is. I know it is, but I can't think of his name. Last name.
Oh, Jay Scott Campbell. Jay Scott Campbell, that's it. He has an initial. I forgot. He puts before the Scott.
Yeah, Jay Scott Campbell did Gen 13, but they were, I'm pretty sure Jim Lee has done a cover or two and maybe even an issue or two. He definitely has. And dice to me. It confirms that that he did some covers for that. I still have a ton of Wildcats, Gen 13.
I loved Wildcats.
Can you make a Wildcats movie?
Why not make a Wildcats movie?
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah.
We need an image cinematic universe, an ICU.
Oh, that doesn't quite work.
The ICU.
Oh, yeah, no, we can't have the ICU.
That's right.
Hey, what's Samuel Jackson?
Oh, he's in the ICU now.
Yeah, he's in the ICU.
Have you guys heard about that?
Sam Jackson has jumped ship and is now in the ICU.
Oh, oh, no.
Is there anything we can do?
well yeah go watch the movie it's a good movie yeah but he's in the i see you yeah hey what's
matthew mildine doing these days oh he's in the i see you i know it feels bad before they get excited
exactly that's amazing all right i had a i had a thing about july fourth that i'll probably
well i need to share it but i probably won't forget it there was uh so we so what we do because
we live in this weird place where the actual community we live in called daybreak uh fireworks are not
ever. And so what happens is the surrounding areas around daybreak, like parts of South Jordan
and Harriman, and on the other side, I guess that would be, I don't know what that is over there.
But anyway, all these other places, they can do fireworks, unless there's some broader state law
that says, hey, too dry this year, don't do fireworks at all. But they can. So what we do, all of
daybreak basically does this. Some people cheat and do it anyway, and nobody really enforces it.
But there, if you walk down just, just a block from where I, where my house is, there's a big
giant park kind of down below and then the valley continues on.
And you can see basically mountain to mountain the entirety of the south end of the valley
before the point of the mountain.
So it's really a cool view and it's this amazing thing.
And during the fourth and 24th, because it's stupid like that with our Pioneer Day.
Utah Day or Pioneer Day.
That's right.
And we do it again.
So all those fireworks just keep happening.
But anyway, Kim and I usually, to avoid crowds and crap,
I don't want to go to a big one, like a concert one or any of that crap.
I don't want to do that.
So instead we go out there, we pull up some, we get our chairs that we take from home,
some snacks, a couple of drinks, whatever.
Go up there and we sit on the ridge there, and then we can see everything.
And we just wait for the sun to go down.
It's always nice, always a nice chill, just sit and talk and chill out.
And there's other people, but they're all kind of scattered around.
They're not, nope, it's not a crowd.
and then the whole valley when they start popping off is just
boom boom boom boom boom you see them everywhere
including the big ones are just in the distance or whatever
so you're getting to see the big ones some people are just doing a lot or
whatever and I always have this game where I try to estimate how much money they're
spending that probably cost them a pretty penny
oh that one's definitely your price you
yeah because some of mine go that's 20 bucks that's 20 bucks that's 20 bucks
that one's probably cheap that's probably a $45 box they got at Costco
but still so try to add it up we usually end up it around now that was about 300 grand worth
of fireworks in the general area you know or whatever it's it's probably annoying that I do this but
I do it anyway so we're sitting there and up behind us is one of these new town homes which
weren't there last year or I guess two years ago and up on the top balcony they have this
awesome view of everything and I hear these people up there talking and I thought what I
would hear was like oh wow look at that one oh bring me more
whatever. Bring me more pigs in a blanket. Or whatever they're doing.
Is that what they're having up there? Fins in a blanket?
I don't know. Actually, I have no idea what they're eating.
But here's what I hear. I hear this guy go, I'm never trusting my brother-in-law again.
And I picked up. And I went, oh, what's this? I kind of...
Yeah, that's the story I want to hear. Yeah.
I turn this way a little bit. And it's before the big noisy winds have gone. So I can kind of still hear them.
It's, you know, what they're saying is carrying to where I am. And the wind's actually blowing that direction a little bit.
So I listened a bit more.
What it was, was this guy's brother-in-law convinced this dude to buy up a bunch of
NFT crypto stuff.
I was expecting this to be a crypto or an FD thing.
Oh, my God, that's awesome.
And he says to the lady, he lost $420,000 in these NFT.
And he can't unload anything.
Like, he can't get rid of anything.
He's, like, super stuck with it.
Oh, my God.
And it's like, it reminded me that.
There's a story floating around about the guy who bought Jack Conti's, or not get Conti, Jack Dorsey's first tweet.
Let's throw some shade of Patreon now.
So Jack Dorsey's original tweet, the founder of Twitter, his original tweet went for $2.9 million as an NFT.
Oh, right. Yes. Yeah.
And that guy's projected to lose $2.9 million on a thing.
So he's going to lose 100% of its value.
Anyway, so that's what they're talking about up there.
And he's like, yeah, well, I lost $420,000.
dollars and I was I almost went 420
Blaze up or something
But I didn't
And all I could think of
Yeah
And he was just that's all that guy wanted to talk about
The rest of them up there
There's one guy was going yeah
So I'm hoping the Raiders this year
This and that you know talking sports
And this other guy goes
And damn it's like it's not like you know
It's not like real money where I can just go get the money out of the bank
I have to brubber brub he just complained the whole time
And all I could think of was like A
your brother-in-law sucks.
B, yeah, you could have maybe not done that.
Yeah.
Maybe you could have not.
Maybe this speculation on very ridiculously hard to track and figure out what the up and down's
going to be every day.
Maybe you could have held back a little and not spent $420,000.
Listen, it could have just as easily been, you know, oh yeah, he told me to put all my money
into Chevron and now I'm down, you know, $420,000.
I mean, you know, we have a.
We have a special place in our hearts for cryptocurrency and NFTs because it's, you know.
Yeah, but it's also a much more, it's a safer bet to say, to bet on Exxon that it would ever be for this.
Like, I wonder if these, these JPEGs I can right click and save for myself are going to do well.
Like, I feel like they had, he had, you know what, like if you go, what would they call that?
Not volatile stocks.
Whatever it is.
Like there's a difference between investing, let's say, $1,000 in IBM.
where you're looking at it's consistent but then you're going to market like
900 800 or something like that and it'll go back up yeah it's like but whereas
crypto goes up and down every five seconds yeah like just constant and right now just
totally bottomed out it is hooping the bed so I would have done okay if I had 10 grand just
laying around okay yeah invest some that's fine sure do what you got to do have a
have a bitcoin yeah yeah but see if I lost $420,000 yeah I'd be talking about it
too.
Poor guy.
Yeah.
And he didn't sound like a guy that was,
uh,
he didn't sound like somebody who had the 420 to spare based on the,
based on the complaining I was hearing.
That's the problem is it was like he probably had some good savings going.
His brother-in-law convinced him this was the get,
this is how to double it quickly or something.
You'll walk away with a million.
I'm sure he told him.
And anyway,
it's a pyramid scheme and they're all getting screwed.
I do like watching, uh,
you know,
I,
early,
not early on.
But a while back, I bought $100 worth of Bitcoin just to see.
And so any time we bring it up on the show, I'm like, oh, well, let's pull up.
Let me just take a look and see where I'm at.
It's like, oh, yeah, $100 now worth $45.
So, great.
Yeah, pretty good.
At least it's only $100, though, you know?
Yeah, it's not $420,000.
That felt like a, that's money I'd put on a craps table.
There you go.
You know, it's basically, that's the way I look at it.
It's like, that money is spent the second I set it in front of the,
the croupier to turn
into chips. If I walk away with
anything, icing on the key. And you've got
this weird little piece of
history thing. Like, I wish
I owned a tiny bit like that. I do.
Even if it goes negative, I don't
care. Like, I just kind of want to have
it and say... I don't want to go
negative because then don't I owe somebody more money?
Oh, good point. Yeah, yeah. I guess
you'll never owe anybody, but...
They'll never drop below zero, I hope. Yeah, let's say
it hits zero. That's fine.
As long as I have this thing or I can say,
Yeah, I got one of those.
I just have one, you know.
But I'm not going to, I'm not going to bet my damn future on it.
I got, you know, people in my life are scrambling now because they got so hosed at this crash.
Guess what, son?
You're going to college, hopefully, in a few years, and it'll all be crypto.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No kidding.
The worst part is this.
Like, they came to it with real money and said, you know, here's my 50 grand of real money.
Let's convert it to Ethereum.
and then did their thing.
And now now it's just literally, if you're going to go pull it back out, what are you pulling it out?
Like, what are you, you're just going to pull out half or less of the money?
It just seems like a bummer.
Yeah, no, at this point, I'm, I'm letting it ride.
You know, it's like, all right, it's, it's half gone.
Let's just, let's just see where it goes.
Yeah.
And maybe one day, Brian.
If I see it go back up to $100, if it even goes up to $150, I'll be like, you know what?
I'll pull it out.
Yeah.
But, why not?
Either that or, you know,
$100 is worth it to have a weird experiment that goes on for years, you know?
Just a thing to try.
And then maybe one day if it suddenly goes bananas and you're suddenly worth, you know,
half a million dollars from your $100 investment.
Great. Pull it out.
Right.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't bet on it.
Nope.
Nope.
All right.
There's all that.
Good stuff.
Good, good conversation this morning.
Mm-hmm.
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Hey, a giant concrete eating snail, a bunch of snail.
a bunch of snails have triggered
a Florida quarantine. It's too bad
an actual pandemic couldn't do that in Florida
but uh... kidding.
These freaking snails will do it.
I'll bet they're fine putting masks on these snails.
Oh yeah. They got no problem with that.
They'll probably even take those snails guns away.
It says here,
sounds like a horror movie. Night of the Giant Snails.
Stucco snacking, disease-carrying
mollusks invade Florida in 3D, but it's real.
Florida issued a quarantine order.
after the June 23rd confirmation
that the giant African land snail
known as the gals or GALS
shows up in Pascoe County.
Snails in general seem like slow, relatively harmless
plant snacking animals, but these are on another
level. I've never seen these before. Look at the size
of this thing. I haven't either. It's huge. I like
the one in that guy's gloved hand. If it can eat through
concrete, dude, it can eat through that little thin
sheet of latex glove that you're wearing.
Yeah, and it doesn't... Oh, look at that. Oh, gosh,
dude.
Do we, oh, geez, the next picture.
Wow.
Do we need to do the abbreviation gals?
That feels like, it feels like gals.
I know.
Florida has been invaded by a bunch of gals, see?
Exactly, yes.
Yeah, I agree.
Just salt them.
Just salt the earth.
Nice, yes.
That's all we need, right?
Just helicopters dumping massive amounts of salt everywhere in...
Isn't that work?
It works on snails, right?
They don't like it, as far as I know.
Do they, is there any connection between this?
and that high-rise that collapsed down there?
Like, was it...
Oh.
Should this have had anything to do with it?
I don't know.
That's an interesting...
I don't know if they ever...
I mean, I think the results of that investigation were like old, you know, shot of
workmanship or something.
Yeah.
It was just a really old crappy building.
Yeah.
But imagine these inside your walls eating your stucco and your freaking whatever else they eat.
No, thanks. No, thank you.
Yeah, that's nasty, dude.
Mayor Watts says, nope, not the Florida collapsed last year.
Oh, well, then citation.
needed uh whoever that is uh anyway these things can reach more than seven inches
for those around the world that's 18 centimeters
and all the places that are smart to adopt the metric system the metric system yeah uh these
are that's the length full length of these things they lay thousands of eggs during its
lifespan and can travel by clinging to vehicles and trash well how does trash move i guess
trash. No, let them eat the trash. It's totally
fun. Yeah, yeah. It says they can
also carry salmonella. They
also have a parasite called rat
lung worm. I don't like
any of those words altogether. Yep.
Causes meningitis and humans. That's a rough
eye pat a friend with meningitis. You do not
want that ever. No.
It's basically a infection
under your skin and you can get cranial
like in the brain infections which you can't get
to. It's really rough.
The Florida Department of Agriculture
Consumer Services or
F, Dax.
Caution people must wear gloves
and follow proper protection and sanitation rules
when handling the mollusks.
Don't eat these is one thing you don't want to do.
Yeah, please don't. Yes, that's very bad.
You don't come home from a long day of work and go,
Oh.
Escargo!
Where's, my plate was just here a moment ago?
Where's my plate?
I mean, the animal is still here, but what is the plate go?
We go a stereotype.
as possible here.
Yes, we do.
Yes.
The quarantine for part of the county calls for nurses, or sorry, nurseries,
solid waste facilities, trash haulers and landscapers to abide by certain conditions,
including reporting snail detections, applying pesticides, and allowing inspection of
equipment.
Their precautions are designed to prevent the spread of the snails.
Again, doing more against these snails than they did against COVID-19, which actually
proves my point about if COVID-19 was more visible, we'd have a very different
discussion in this country
about it.
Like if you look like monkey pox
or it had some kind of outward
expression,
you wouldn't have people going
to fake or it's that
they wouldn't happen.
Yeah, they would just go, oh shit.
Yes. I don't want to be
orange. Yeah. I don't want to be
I don't want my skin to turn pink.
Oh my gosh. Let's
yeah, let's not catch COVID.
I hate to say this. I just wish
it had a physical component.
That healed up and went away.
I don't want you permanently scarred.
Yeah, but something, right.
We want to see the star-bellied sneaches.
We want to actually see the stars on their bellies so that we can isolate them.
That's right.
If you're going to, look, if you're going to, what's the secret invasion?
What are they called?
Scrolls.
Scrolls.
If there's a scroll there, I'd like to know.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Okay.
Here's a nasty one.
13 decomposing bodies founded in Indiana funeral home.
Now you might say to yourself, well, wait, the funeral home, isn't that full of bodies?
Isn't that where decomposing bodies are supposed to be?
Well, they're not supposed to decompose.
They're supposed to be treated and then, you know, buried or otherwise burned or disposed of, but that's not what happened here.
The decomposing bodies of 31 people, along with the cremated remains of 16, were discovered by officers during an inspection of a funeral home in Indiana.
The inspection of Lake Ford Funeral Home and Family Center came following a tip from the condition of the business.
said one of the police officers at the department there,
says the bodies were said to be in various stages of decomposition
and not clear if police suspect there was any wrongdoing
and no arrests have been made.
It may just be a really poorly run.
We just have a really bad backlog.
We're trying to get these bodies through the incinerator.
Sorry.
It sounds like a lot of them are,
I mean, families would definitely be aware that there's a problem.
So this sounds like maybe people that don't have a direct connection to anybody
Or they were just homeless?
If you're trying to schedule a funeral and it's like, oh, yeah, no, we still have your
still have your uncle's body here.
Sorry, it's going to be a while.
Yeah.
And also, them being in different stages of decomposition, they should have been, if they're
going to embalm them, they would have done that or they'd be on ice.
There's like a bunch of things you would do.
You wouldn't just leave them laying around and have them blow it out and be gross.
No, I know.
Oh, the place must smell like hell.
Oh, can you imagine?
Oh, my gosh, dude.
Oh.
Let's see, they had some people, oh, no one answered the phone, the funeral home,
some recorded messages.
Okay, so they, it sounds like something's up.
I have a question about the name.
Langford, funeral home, and family center.
And family center.
And family center.
Like, you know, come say goodbye to your loved ones and have a birthday party in the next room.
Yeah, is that what that is?
I wonder if that is what it is.
Like, they've got a little, like, convention space or something.
I don't know.
Seems really weird.
Play our ski ball and enjoy our collection of arcade games.
That's right.
We have a television with the latest Pixar films running 24-7.
Also, dead bodies everywhere.
Exactly.
That's really odd.
I don't know what that is.
Family Center.
Because when I think Family Center, that's what I think of is, like, oh, we're going on vacation.
We're going to go to the Family Center, and the kids are going to swim, and we're going to...
Yeah, there's.
There's a water slides and stuff like that, family center, some arcade machines or some, you know, paintball or whatever.
Jeannie.
Sounds like a movie for next Halloween.
Yeah, it does kind of.
It does.
I don't like the sound of any of this.
I watched a horror movie.
Say 10% when you bury the whole family.
I watched a horror movie over the weekend that I'm terrified to recommend.
I don't think I will recommend it.
Really?
Terrified like it scared you or you're...
I don't think anyone will...
I don't think...
How do I put this?
It's an Australian film.
that I watched on Shutter
because I got Shudder for the month
because I wanted to watch
Mad God so yeah
I just I thought well I'll watch other stuff on there
there's this Australian thing and I forgot
the name of it
movie or yeah you said it's a movie right
it is a movie yeah it's like an hour and a half
or mid little hour and 45 minute
Australian thing
and it's really disturbing
and I forgot the name
lions or wolves
I forget it's basically a couple that lures
people into their basement and traps
them there and tortures them before they
kill them and then they go bury him.
And it's the kind of horror me of my
wife would hate because she
like if you say hey we're going to watch this Freddie
versus Jason thing or whatever
she's like whatever there's supernatural bullshit
going on. But when it's like
actual like potentially your neighbors
kind of thing. Yeah. When you can when someone's
kidnapped held against their will
tortured horribly you know these sorts
of things you can't do. I can't
I mean I normally don't like him either but it was
This is a movie that came out a couple of years ago that I heard was really good, but it was a family that was, there's basically a home invasion where they took the family hostage in their own home.
Oh, right.
What was that?
Some big name actors in there, and it, you know, it got a lot of good reviews.
And for whatever reason, it's like, I don't know if I can watch that.
That stuff does freak me out.
What is called?
It's called.
Somebody in the chat room.
Not hostage house.
That's not that, right?
No, no.
Not inside.
That's something else.
Less, like a, uh, strangers.
Was that it?
Was it strangers?
Or the strangers?
That's nobody I know in terms of,
Liv Tyler, Scott Speedman.
I don't remember.
That might be.
Kidnap, Tiles on the left.
Single white female, that's definitely not it.
No, I don't think that's it.
Yeah, I don't know.
Liv Tyler was not the most well-known name in that thing.
The owners?
When a stranger calls it?
no I don't know what the I know what you're talking about 100% like there's something with big name actors that was really well regarded but just seemed like a harrowing nightmare yeah exactly and I couldn't watch it either for the same reason anyway not panic room see even panic room's not in this cat Kim could watch panic room yeah right it's something I don't know what it is when they get but there's something about kind of bumbling you know you know that
The people in the panic room thing, the intruders, the burglars are kind of kind of be bumbling, you know, almost home alone level doofuses.
I spend most of calculating, no, we've planned on taking the people into this house hostage and.
Yeah, and it's always like, like even like the, not dances of wolves, whisper with sheep.
What's that called?
Sheep.
I don't know.
Oh, silence of the land.
At least that also has a feeling of like, of almost like otherworldliness to it, even though it's not.
It's hard for me to explain why some get me and some don't, but whisper of the sheep.
That's not.
Whispers of the sheep.
Yeah.
Was it, uh, and I think they had masks on and on the movie poster, darn it.
Yeah, it's going to drive me nuts.
For some reason, I was thinking Tony Colette was in.
it but I'm not I don't I think I might be confusing it around the same time was hereditary oh hereditary so it was
about 2018 when that thing came out that game that movie's still in my head freaking hereditary messed me up
that night that was a hell of it that's a that is one I will recommend if you like horror movies because
it actually scared me yeah gosh dang it scared me plus it was filmed in park city which I think
about every time I go up there now it's like oh shit this is where that was made um speaking
speaking of which you know what I got really into and it's
partly your fault, and for years you've been telling me this,
so of other people, you're not the only one,
but finally jumped in and started watching a ton of the Orville.
And here's my take.
The Orville is fantastic.
To the point that, I can't believe how long this took me.
I'm irritated at myself.
I'm going to feel this way about Loki.
Everyone shut up.
But the point is, and a parasite, and this.
It's so good.
it's so like I don't even I don't know how to say this it's such a love letter to next generation
and I don't just mean like yeah it's got its comedy bits and it's got some other stuff
but but they they have a handle on the whole let's use science fiction to explore hard to discuss
topics yeah like let's make I forgot his name but the the the Cleon like dude who's always
gruff boredus boardus and his and his husband right because that they're an all-male society
They have no females.
I don't want to spoil anything because this was all awesome to learn as I went.
But then they have this episode where the baby they have,
which is in the history of that world and those people have always been male
because they're a male-only society.
They have a girl and they got to figure out what to do about it.
And then they find out they're not the first ones.
Like it's these issues of today, but through the land,
like Star Trek's always been.
Yeah.
And this is better than they do it.
Like, I mean, you could argue TOS and TNG did a great job, and they did, of dealing with these things, and DS9 to some degree, and even Voyager.
But these guys, oh, it's so good.
It's so good.
I absolutely freaking love it, Brian.
Yeah, it's so good.
It basically does all the things that we wanted Star Trek Discovery and Picard to do, but doesn't do.
It gives us that, like, oh, this feels like the next generation.
It's got that, that, you know.
They're over there trying to be Star Wars whilst these guys are like, no, we're going to try to be Star Trek, even though we're not allowed to be.
We'll call it the Orville and we'll just be Star Trek.
Like, they're not afraid to be the thing that we all love and that for whatever reason, Paramount.
Plus, although it sounds like Strange New Worlds is bucking that trend, but, and I haven't seen any yet, but they just are afraid to do it.
like they're well no today's sensibilities and the way we film things it's not going to work today
no it does it freaking does and not only does it work it works in spades and also you don't have to
sacrifice effects you don't have to sacrifice humor you can actually laugh a little bit it's it is
freaking great yeah so if you were like me and you've been holding off sleeping on freaking
getting getting orville going don't do that anymore watch the orville it's all on hulu there's
new episodes coming out now yeah this new season and i hope they never
freaking stop.
Yeah.
Especially, and if you're like,
I'm not a big, I've not a big family guy
fan. I'm not a big fan of that, you know,
Seth McFarland's humor. Don't
worry. It's such
a small part of the Orville. Don't hold
if you're not a family guy fan. Don't hold
a family guy against. No,
if anything, it may improve your
opinion of your opinion of
Seth McFarland, just go, man,
this dude's got range. He also
clearly has like an
unending supply of love for the source
material and it shows in every episode and I don't just mean hard social issues like you know
Kirk Kiss and uh uh youura back in the day was a big deal for interracial uh couples and stuff
in the 60s there's a huge deal then we don't think about it so much now but it was a huge
things that happened on TNG with you know or even DS9 with uh or um what's her name
where she had the the symbiote in her and he uh and he was a what she would that that character was
Oh, yeah, Dax.
Dax, that's right.
And Jadzia Dax is now got Kerson Dax as her thing.
And that thing used to be a dude.
And so there's like, you know, they dealt with gender issues there.
So, yeah, you can have those kinds of social issues.
But also Star Trek does science issues.
Like, there's this episode of the Orville.
I loved it where they go to the home planet of what's her name.
I can't remember anyone's name.
But they go to What's Her Name's Home Planet where everyone, Picardo's her dad, Robert Picardo.
Oh, yeah.
That's the other thing.
You get a bunch of Star Trek people on this thing.
You need a lot of cameos.
But you go to their planet and they're all stronger than anyone else because it's 10 times the gravity of Earth or something.
And so when Captain Mercer, played by Seth MacFarland, needs to walk over there.
He's got this special suit on that makes it so he can exist in the gravitational pole.
By gravity.
And not be mushed.
But then the suit breaks down because he gets shot by the doctor from Enterprise.
And he ends up on the ground.
ground with a timer that basically when the timer ends out he's just going to crush his bones are
going to crush it's going to be awful and I just love them playing with those kinds of hypotheticals
playing with societal hypotheticals it's great it's great watch it I mean it all right
that's it for news we're going to take a break when we come back we're going to be joined by
bobby frankenberger bills still on his vacation so as a result he will not be here
when he gets home when he gets home he'll be making something we know that oh he'll
There'll be lots of making going on.
You'll never see so much making, but today it's science.
So stick around for that.
Before that, though, Brian, can you play a song for us all?
Yeah.
How about Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania?
I don't think we've gone there for music before.
No.
An alt-rock duo called Observe the 93rd.
They have a brand new album called An Eariness to Everything.
These guys are really, really good.
And I don't know who I'd compare them to, but they've got kind of a supergrass, I
think was who I initially wrote down.
Maybe a little bit of panic at the disco,
Brandon Ury and stuff like that.
Anyway, hey, why wait anymore?
Listen to it yourself.
Here is the brand new single
from an eerieness to everything
from Observe the 93rd.
It's called dopamine.
I was a fiend for dopamine.
But sometimes what you're real.
need
always to
take on when you
tried to escape
we evolved by
our living of pain
I was the fiend
for dopamine
oh
My self-esteem collapsed effect on its knees
The lonely a.m. greets a glow of a scream
I fantasize for a temporary high
It's not enough I make a post and get a hit from each like
But I'm still lost and I'm spiraling down
Slither up there so I can forget the sound of my quiet agony
I was a fiend for dopamine
but sometimes what you really need
is to
The unaddressed can turn a mind obsessed
A night won't dress won't tear the pain from within
And the shallow caress
Of strangers' flesh is overwhelming and it's emptiness
All the subtle ways we try to distract
But it won't bring the past back
A reason of what has passed
Isn't that what this is all about
We watch our old lives fall away
and then we desperately reach out.
I was a feat for dopamine
but sometimes what you really need.
Take on what you tried to escape
We evolved by your living of pain
I was a fiend for dopamine
I was a fiend for dopamine
I was a fiend for dopamine
I was a fiend for dopamine
Will the owner of a white Pontiac firebird, oh never mind, zero!
You fight for Sparta!
sit down and listen punk this is the morning stream all right we're back everybody uh i want to
write down who that band was so tell me one more time sure that band is called observe the 93rd
brand new album called an eeriness to everything that song is dopamine that's awesome and lately
they opened they just opened for lit um on tour so i don't know who lit is should i know lit
lit uh
I could swallow my line
I can none of the thine
Oh
Leave me empty in style
No that's not lit
That's somebody else
My own worst enemy
That's it
It's no surprise to me
I am my own worst enemy
That's it
Yeah
Eve six
Eve six was the one I was just singing
Yeah that's right
Okay
Well you do what you can do
Listen they kind of come up
In my shuffle like
One right after the other
Because they're kind of similar
You're doing a genre play. You're going to get them all.
That's right. Thanks. Thanks for the myriad of corrections in the tadpool between
Eve's Sakes and Lit. Thank you. Well done, everybody.
Science.
Look who it is. It's Bobby Frankenberger, joining us all the way from South Carolina to talk
about some science today. Hello, host of All Around Science, Bobby Frankenberger. How are you?
I'm doing well, host of the morning stream, Core, and many other podcasts.
No problem. Hey, did you notice? Bobby reached out to me once and said, on Core.
could you please repeat the name of the game you're playing
more often? Have you noticed I've tried
to do that more? I don't know if you've noticed that
yeah and it's helpful I appreciate that
who says I don't listen to one listener so for anybody
listening just know
if you have a very specific request
all you have to do is email Scott
and he will absolutely
make whatever change you want
yeah no matter what it is
if you say to me I want Brian to speak in his
falsetto voice for the rest of the show's history
it's happened. I'll do it
I'll have to do it. Scott will make me do it.
Yeah, there's just no getting around it.
But, no, I really did take that to heart because I actually think that's a thing I wish more shows I listened to did.
And not just with games, but like movies and TV or whatever.
Like, I want to, if they're going to make recommendations, I want to remember the damn thing.
Yeah, well, core is so long the show is that I have it on in the background throughout the day doing different things whenever it comes out.
So sometimes I'm half listening, and then I'm, I catch in the middle of you talking about a game.
And I'm like, wow, that really does sound good.
And then we don't say what it is again.
Yeah.
That's a problem with a long form show like that.
I mean, for the record, the show's not a day long.
It's usually about two hours, two hours 15, something like that.
Yeah.
And Bobby's right.
So let this be a lesson everybody out there.
Try to, if you're going to make recommendations, whatever the format is, whatever the thing is, say at the top, say it.
the top say it again at the end at the least okay yep all right hey bobby it's good to have you
here um the world of science never stops moving no matter what we do to it so what's going on today
that you think would be of interest to our listeners well there's a lot of things going on but
you mentioned last week something about uh all the how there's a bunch of different omicron
variants of covid 19 yeah yeah one with like neuro something something eat your brain it's just
All of the variants that are out there have there's so many now.
I thought, why not do a quick roundup of what they are and what the differences are?
Like what the different flavors of Omicron are right now and what you should know about them, you know?
Yeah.
So let's talk about it.
Like should people immediately go, ooh, freaking not only is it easy to catch now even if you're vax, but now it goes after my brain cells.
probably so the short answer to that is probably not and it has to do with why it's they and how they
name variants and what counts as a subvariant and all that kind of stuff so um the fact that they're
all omicron means that they're all kind of this similar to each other okay um so when you go
you know before omacron was delta and when it when they when they named so delta you know
beta gamma over omacron all of these different variants they were they were variants of COVID-19 so
they're all the same virus but they're they're quite different genetically from each other
and so that's why they have these different names but the difference between delta and
like it was quite different from Delta so they renamed it a completely different
variant omacron but within those variants you can have uh still genetic differences that
that make them different enough from each other that you might want to point that out and so
that's what a sub variant is and that's where you have like these b a dot one b a dot two and so on now
they're up to to dot five with homicron do you think this stuff the way the way science has to
categorize and name and stuff do you think it confuses the
less red parts of our communities you know what i'm saying like do they this isn't how do i put
this i'm not trying to be rude but there are people who hear this sort of thing and just go
ah science what do they know all i know is my dog loves me or whatever like you know what i mean
like it feels like it's complicated that was took a left i don't know what i don't think of another
thing to do without offending somebody but you know what i mean um well you you
Yeah. So I think there are definitely people who are exhausted by the fact that things are always changing. I mean, that's the nature of science. We're constantly updating our knowledge and having to. And when you update what you know with new information, sometimes you have to change your opinion about things or you have to, you have to, I don't like to say your opinion about things. You have to update what is what is true.
true in your mind, right? And that can be frustrating to people because sometimes it's very difficult
in the first place to take effort to learn something. It is difficult. You have to read and do
research and understand it. That can be really difficult by itself, just understanding something.
And when you finally do that and you turn around and a day later it changes, that can be
frustrating, right? Yeah. And exhausting. So I sympathize with that. But, but, and, and, and, and,
it doesn't make it easier when everyone and especially the news are so laser focused on
everything that's going on with COVID, something that is like an existential threat we're being
told, which is, you know, it was true at least at some time, at some point. It was very
threatening and so it's like, oh my God, this is a big deal. I need to pay attention to it. There's
so much information coming at me with every little change and that can be really exhausting and
I don't blame anybody.
And I do sometimes think maybe we shouldn't have a headline about every sub-variant of COVID
that comes out, right?
Uh-huh.
That we discover, because as I'll get into in a minute, most of these really are not super
concerning, not in the way that people might be thinking about.
Now, the dot-4 and dot-5 sub-variants of Omicron are a little.
little concerning for reasons i'll get to in a second but but not like life-threateningly you know
nothing nothing to to just throw up your arms and and just give more more than the base the baseline
that is already the danger or the concern or whatever yeah if it doesn't change what we have to do
to keep from getting it or or anything like that or procedures we have to take yeah it shouldn't
we you know don't let us know about it just that's yeah that's a really good way to think
about it, Brian, is that
nothing had, nothing, none of
these sub-variants that we're discovering
are changing anything about the way
you should be behaving. Right, right.
Still, be careful.
If you're in a public place,
especially if you're at higher risk,
wear a mask.
If you're outdoors right now, still not
a huge deal with a
mask, but, you know, if you want to
err on the side of caution, wear a mask,
everything we already know. I'm not saying anything you don't
already know when I say all that.
Well, but, um, but what about these variants should we know? Um, a quick history.
The, the, the, the original COVID classic is called, you here referred to as the ancestral
strain. Yeah. Have you ever heard that? I have heard that. I was wondered about that term.
I haven't. Yeah. Ancestral strain refers to the original COVID when it was discovered back in
2019. And so the ancestral strain was already very concerning because it spread very quickly,
right? And it had an R value. I'm going to say R value a couple times here. And just to refresh
anybody's memory who might have forgotten or anybody who didn't know, the R value just refers to
how quickly it spreads. The ancestral strain had an R value of about 2.8.
which means that for every person who got the original COVID,
they could expect, on average, to infect about 2.8 people around.
Delta was the first major variant that everyone was really panicky about.
There were a couple before that, but Delta was like the big one.
That's when we had the first really huge surge in cases.
right is when delta delta came around and that had an r value of 5.8 that's what was such a big deal
about that it's it it spread so much more easily um that was nearly for every person nearly
six other people were likely to get infected by every person who had delta wow but then yeah
then when omacron came this is it got even worse because that r value jumped to 8.2
and so these are the big changes that that were happening now there are a lot of other things with omicron
omicron umacron uh was there were you might have remembered them talking about how like with omicron
they discovered 50 mutations or or more than 50 mutations right in the in the virus and um 26 of
them. I think it was 26 were unique to this variant and hadn't been seen before. And a bunch of
them, like over 30 of them of the mutations were on the spike protein itself, which is how it
attaches itself to cells in your body and all this kind of stuff. And that was what was a big deal
about Omicron. And all those things together made it very easy for it to spread or to infect people
effectively. And so that's when we started paying attention to Omicron. Very, very quickly
Omicron spread everywhere. It was first identified in November in South Africa. This is November
of last year. And by early December, the first case was found in the U.S. And by the end of
December, it was by far the majority of cases in the U.S. And I think early January was already
and the 90% of...
Does that mean the previous variant
or the previous flavor went away?
Did it die off?
Original flavor?
Yeah.
Because that's the idea, right?
The more dominant thing takes over
and everything else kind of says bye, right?
Yeah, because if it can't spread,
if something else is spreading more quickly
than it, then it can't take hold
because they're all the same virus,
so they're all trying to fill the same niche
in our bodies in the environment so if some other strain comes along and and gets to you first then
then the other one isn't going to so it does get pushed out i don't actually know if they do find
the ancestral strain anymore out in the wild i think delta is still out there and like but like globally
it's in the single digit percentages i think interesting um because that but that is the point right
the dominance of a strain is i mean it's the whole that's the whole thing there's like uh the virus is
mutates and changes so that it can try to, I don't know, it's easy to assayant a brain to these
things, but like, you know what I mean? Like it wants to, it wants to keep going. So how does it
propagate? Well, it alters its, it's, it's smear. And then now everybody's got it again. Well,
why? Well, because that one's much more contagious, but less harmful. But that's the tradeoff.
And, you know, it's, it can get confusing. I guess what I'm saying is, you know, we call it
ancestral strain. We should call it COVID classic. COVID classic. Then the common man. Yeah, that
then common man would understand what we're talking about.
You can say someone in the chat mentioned crystal COVID, but that wasn't here very long.
You know, so you could do that with one of the short run strains.
Vanilla COVID.
Yeah.
These are the brains we're having to appeal to these things.
I need COVID zero.
I'm not doing any of that.
Oh, yeah.
COVID zero sounds great, doesn't it?
Yeah.
All the great taste of the original COVID.
That's right.
Well, anyway, so that's interesting.
Yeah.
But that's just Omicron.
What I was just explaining to you is just when Omicron came on the scene, right?
That's just a variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
But what we wanted to talk about were sub-variants.
These, you can subdivide that.
Because the thing about viruses is mutations are happening all the time constantly.
You could go crazy with naming every single mutation.
and calling it its own sub-variant or sub-sub-sub-variant or something like that.
But scientists aren't going to do that.
Epidemiologists aren't going to do that because most of them are not of concern.
The mutation that happens either does nothing or very little, and we're just not going to look at it.
So what the CDC does and the World Health Organization, they look at variants of concern.
You've probably heard that before.
And these are when a mutation or a cluster of mutations happens that is concerning and likely to make the virus behave in a different way in the population.
So the main things that they look at are whether or not the mutations will make it spread more easily or quickly or whether the mutations are going to.
spread more easily or quickly or whether the mutations are going to make it more dangerous or
or change completely how it works that's very unlikely to happen and that's not really how it's
happened with COVID at all but but the two main things are how quick is it changing how
quickly it spreads and and or is it making it more deadly or or causing more severe
illness, right? Yeah. And so when those changes happened, that's when they label it a variant
of concern. Now, one of the tricky things about COVID is we're so hyper-focused on it that
sometimes variants get named and get into the headlines before we even know if these changes
are going to impact the population. Because our technology is so good at looking at these things,
we can see the mutations and think, oh, that might be, like the mutation right there has changed how the spike protein works.
So that might be something that could be a problem.
And then it ends up in a headline somewhere because it's someone founded in a pre-print scientific server somewhere and said, oh, we need to be worried about this.
But the ones, and that happened with like dot three.
So the dot three, I'll start there.
The dot three variant was everybody, it raised alarm bells.
There were a lot of changes that were happening, but it never really took off.
Right.
So that one, nobody really, nobody talks about that anymore.
No.
Because it didn't go anywhere.
It's not cool anymore to talk about that.
It's not cool anymore.
Yeah.
It was one-hit wonder.
And whatever other metaphor you want to use.
Sure, why not?
but uh but the very first one you'll you'll see b a dot one sometimes that is the that is just
the first omicron variant that was discovered so it's not that's not really a that's not really like
different from omicron when it first came on we just called it b a dot one yeah um the real like i
already said that one was spread very very quickly that was the big deal about that and that's why
we named it Omicron and separate from Delta because it had so many, so many mutations and it
spread really, really quickly. The other thing about Omicron, B-A-D-1 was it, it was when we started
to notice that symptoms started to get much more mild than previous variants of COVID. So that was
a promising, hopeful thing. Yes, it was spreading more quickly, but the symptoms were mild.
There was a lot less of the, you probably don't hear about this very much anymore.
There was a lot less of the loss of taste and smell symptom going on.
That indicates probably that there are less neurological impacts happening,
although it's still not 100% clear why the loss of taste and smell was happening.
Yeah, which is in itself a neurological condition, right?
Yeah, it can be.
It can be.
It could be that you're losing taste and smell because of,
other things going on in your sinuses or your, you know, just other parts of your airway and
everything that aid with that. But there were, I think some of the leading hypotheses were that
it was somehow neurologically. My son-in-law still can't eat strawberries. And it's been
really, wow. A month and a half or something. I think Dan still can't, Dan Patrice, our very own
damn patrice still can't eat french fries for some reason yeah guy across the street uh who
normally does the bike ride thing he he still doesn't have capacity in his lungs so yeah he gets
winded still and it was it's been weeks we had this guy well who we just heard about yesterday
who when he's super anti-back so that's part of the equation but he's you know relatively young
42 year old dad of three kids i think went to ended up in the hospital on a respirator for
original COVID for legacy COVID and then what's the word you used primordial ancestral ancestral ancestral
ancestral COVID there's something like primordial COVID anyway he comes home he's like yeah I beat it
I didn't need no vaccine to beat it and like hey me not I had to have gone in if he didn't anyway
whatever so he he he's he's home and then he starts having weird issues like the smell and taste thing
don't come back for him for a really long time.
He can barely breathe.
It's like a lot of residual stuff, long COVID-y kind of stuff happened to him.
And then he caught it again two months ago.
Didn't end up in the hospital this time, but is now dealing with some kind of weird
neurological stuff, nervous system stuff.
What's that nerve pain, nerve ending pain thing that he's never had to deal with before,
all right in the wake of this recent infection.
And the problem is, we haven't done enough to know for sure that you can say, yes, 100%
we're sure this was COVID-related because we can't.
Right.
But, you know, nobody knows what else to say about it except, well, they're all mysterious
conditions that you got out of nowhere only after a second dose of this COVID thing.
And that's when the conversation started going into this direction of, well, I hear the
new revarian attaches to your neurological cells and turned you into a monkey or whatever.
like they had there's there's some panic around that and this guy seems to be like you know a little bit
of an example of it he's still anti-backs by the way um the point of course and his poor kids oh he's in
the hospital now for sepsis but the sepsis is it not your normal like it's not even it's not
called sepsis but it's basically like a meningitis type thing that's somewhere in his up here in
his head or something and they have no explanation for it like we can't find we can't figure out what
the frick happened to this guy, except that he had two really rough bouts of COVID. One almost
killed him. The second one just left him a mess. So anyway, it's so easy for us. It is scary,
but it's easy for us to take these anecdotal examples, people that we know or whatever, and then
apply a broad blanket to it. And I think that that's... I'm glad you said that because there actually
isn't a lot of evidence or none that I found that these Omicron subvariants are any more
or less likely to do neurological damage.
That's probably data that's going to take a long time for us to hash out
because that stuff usually just takes longer.
You have to look at people for a long time and see what's happened.
Probably years, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know how they do, how they monitor that exactly.
So I wouldn't want to say, but I know that.
that from what I could find, I couldn't really find strong evidence that these current
Omicron variants were any more or less neurologically active or anything. I think the word
you were looking for was neuropathic pain. But anyway, so that was what happened with
Omicron. And the story of Omicron and all these sub-variants really is a story of every one of them
being faster to spread than the other ones. All right. Because Omicron
by itself was really, really fast,
but then the BA.2
sub-variant was discovered.
Also in November,
but we didn't really get our first cases in the U.S.
until January.
I don't know if you heard.
That one was called the Stealth Variant.
Did you ever hear that?
Oh, I do remember that one.
No, I don't remember the names, right?
It wasn't because of no symptoms.
The symptoms were basically the same, still mild.
Actually, there was a, with this variant,
there seemed to be more,
sore throat
became more common
and also gastrointestinal stuff
oh yeah that stomach thing that's right
yeah some people had that real bad
I remember now I didn't know it's called
the stealth variant it sounds like only
Klingons I'd get it or something birds of prey
it was called the stealth variant because
it was really hard to distinguish
from Delta in the PCR tests
at the time and that was
when Delta was still around so
they were trying to find
how much Delta versus
omicron was
out there, they were still trying to figure
out if Omicron was going to completely
take things over, and
spoiler alert, it did.
But at the time, they were trying to figure that out,
and it was very frustrating because
these PCR tests would
show up saying
there was the Delta variant,
but it was actually this
Omicron sub-variant, and so
they called it the stealth variant because it was
hiding and masquerading
as Delta.
but it was spreading even faster than the original omacron yeah three three of my neighbors got
that version of it it got the stomach version of it and um yeah they are a mix of vaccinated
and not vaccinated but even in all their cases it was a rough couple days yeah and then doing
great i kind of wish this thing would morph into the rough couple day stomach thing i don't want
to wish that on anybody but it seems like that that's more of a in an act
out and we're done type which would you rather have all things being equal i'm curious about this
which would you rather have you know sinus congestion cold type illness or or stomach stuff if you're
saying four let's say both cases last the same amount of time or or do we not get that option
no you don't get that option because because i'm thinking more real world like like congestion sinusy
stuff usually and like stuff in your airway usually sticks around for like a couple of weeks
like two weeks you know but but diarrhea stuff gastrointestinal stuff usually is like more severe
like to me it's it's more severe but it's yeah it's harder but it's over faster exactly i think
i would go with the latter despite the fact that it would wreck my barf record um i don't i don't want
that to happen i don't have a i don't have a runny butt record i wish i did but i don't
I'm like everybody else in that regard
but yeah
other than that
like taking that off the table
I think I'd rather have the hard hit
and get out you know
definitely would rather have the stomach stuff
just because the sinus stuff for me
more impacts my sleep
because of the apnea
than the stomach stuff would so
oh good point
at least I could sleep and yeah
yeah that's why I would pick
definitely the
the gastrointestinal stuff too
because of my
because I like to run
and so it when I
get, when I get like a chest cold and stuff, that puts me out of running for like two
weeks, you know.
Yeah, it takes a while to get that back.
And if it's COVID, maybe worse.
So, yeah, I think we'd all take the guts over the, over the breathing air.
So we said before that BA.3, we never really cared much about that because it never really
took off.
But right now, everybody's talking about four and five.
I'm going to group those together because even though they're technically different,
they are separate subvariants.
people are concerned about them for the same reason.
And it is because, as has been the story, they are spreading even faster than all the previous
Omicron subvariants, which Omicron already was the fastest spreading version of course.
Oh, we got a record breaker then.
What we got?
Right.
So it's spreading even faster, but the other part of the continuing story is that there are even
less severe cases of this version.
So it's moving in the direction.
that you would expect a widespreading virus to move,
which is easier to spread, faster spread, less severe.
That's just a successful virus wants to do that, right?
Because in terms of its success,
if it can spread really, really quickly but not kill people,
then it can spread more easily.
It spreads more easily and re-spreads because it wants.
wants to be he finds homes and lives there it's like a lot of i mean if you look at historical
viruses that are a big deal that's what they ended up doing right they leveled out or it goes
completely in the other direction and that makes it a big deal too like it's incredibly deadly and
fast um and uh we don't want that one yeah um so i'm just letting you know in case you have any sway
with the virus yeah yeah yeah that'd be great so um i'll i'll i'll i'll
send it on up the line um the uh you mentioned re re infection yeah and that's the reason that
people are talking a lot about these dot four and dot five sub variants is because for some
reason well there are two two big concerns about this right now first it seems to be able to
more easily re-infect people who had earlier forms of covid and that's why you're it's
probably why you're starting to hear, I know I have, starting to hear a lot more about people who
had, who are getting COVID for a second time. Yeah. Definitely. And it's probably because of this.
For some reason, this, this, uh, subvariant is different enough or, or something that it's able to
re-infect people more easily who already had earlier forms of COVID. The other thing is that this
version of COVID
is much
is able to get around
vaccines more effectively.
The vaccines are becoming
less effective against these particular
sub-variants.
Now, they still, the vaccines
still work, so this is not
a call to
hold up on your getting your vaccine.
Don't throw your needles
out. That was a weird thing to say,
but don't,
don't avoid getting a vaccine just because of that, because it's still somewhat effective.
It's just not as effective.
Remember, these vaccines have been so great because starting off, they were at like upper 90% effectiveness, right?
So being less effective might still be like they're only 60 or 70% effective, but in terms of vaccines, that's still pretty good.
Pretty good.
So still get vaccinated.
But that's the concern, because if it continues to go in this direction, now good news is, with MRNA technology, we can respond, scientists and companies can respond to that very quickly.
They can come up with new vaccines and get them out into the boosters and everything more quickly.
Yeah, which is what you want.
That's what we want.
I was listening to a song by 311 yesterday.
And it's called, it's called Dodging Rain Drops.
It's from their latest album in 2019, Voyager.
It's really good, by the way.
They make great music right now.
I'm going to pause us for YouTube.
Sorry, YouTube.
I'm going to play a little piece of the song because right when I was in the car discussing
how I feel like I've been really lucky and still haven't caught any form of COVID that I know of.
There's always, you know, asymptomatic carriers and that.
But Kim and I have not done this.
And we were in the middle of discussing it when we heard this lyric.
Okay, I want to play this.
Hold on.
Hold on
It's really low
Oh you guys can't hear it
Hold on
No
I'm going to hear it
And the world is not waiting on me
I've been dodging rain drops
For far too long
I've been dodging rain drops
For far too long
Says the song
Right as we're having a discussion
About how I'm dodging these raindrops
For two year, three years
Yeah
I'm just saying it made me feel
COVID drops
Yeah it makes me nervous
It makes me nervous
Anyway
I thought to share that little anecdote.
Bobby, as always, it's very interesting to have you on the show and talk about these things.
There's another outlet where you do this in a more meaningful long-form way, and that is All-Around Science.
Tell people about it, what's happening this week, and where they can get it.
Yep, that's our podcast.
Me and my co-host, Mora, do All-Around Science.
That's what it's called.
Search for it, and you'll find it.
We've got a website all-around science.com.
Yesterday, the episode that came out was all about traffic.
You remember we talked about some traffic.
A few weeks ago, I told you I was doing some research for an episode.
Well, that's the episode.
It just came out.
Traffic like car traffic, right?
Car traffic, yeah.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
What caught like those slowdowns that then turn into giant...
Yeah, phantom traffic jams.
Right, right.
That was the term, yes.
Oh, very cool.
I want to hear this.
You live in a big city like Atlanta.
You're very familiar with phantom traffic jams.
That's true.
For a hot second, we looked at a house in Atlanta last year.
It was a hot second.
Yeah, it was a hot second.
Part of the reason we didn't do it was how hot every second will be.
So we didn't do it.
But also, it's now really expensive to buy that house in Atlanta.
Nobody's moving anywhere.
Anyway, well, this is all good stuff.
Check it out, all around science.
Wherever I get your podcast, Bobby, having you on?
Man, it's just a treat.
Thanks.
And we look forward to having you on next time.
We'll see you later.
see you bobby it's a big grinny long hair jeez i know it's a good dude he was ready for a freeze frame
really with that luck oh yeah hell yeah yeah uh i would too if i had his hair sure all right to get
out of here we're going to do a quick email uh this is an email that we received not long ago
send and receive email it's the morning stream at gmail dot com this is from taylor who says
brian this is mostly for you says hi scott and brian i have a question for brian that surely
has been asked an answer before, but I can't keep up with the thousands of stories I've heard
from the show. I was watching Kitchen Nightmares, and a restaurant in Arvada was the episode's
focus. Did Brian ever get to experience the old neighborhood restaurant? Hardly an exciting
question, but Brian is the only person I know in Arvada that exists or anyone that I know
that in Arvada exists. That's not what that sentence says. Brian is the only reason I know Arvada
exists. There we go. The only person in Arvada that exists.
Oh, man.
Tomorrow I'll take...
I'm the Tyler Durdin of Arvada.
I'm going to tell you guys tomorrow about this giant new floaty that fell off my lens.
Oh, no, new floaty.
Stuff gets in the middle and I screw words up even worse than I do normally.
Anyway, he said it made me think of TMS.
So before I go on, because there's more to this, what, do you know this place?
You ever been?
I do know the place.
We went after, like, that place has been around forever.
And I remember even as a kid going by there.
It was, it's right by a target that used to be on a, you know, on a typical bike riding path
that I would go along, but I never went there until maybe about, I don't know, 10 years ago
with the crazy neighbors, we went after the Kitchen Nightmares thing, and I think we even saw
the episode beforehand, or we just knew, because they had signs up that said recently featured
in Kitchen Nightmares, and we actually, the person who served us, or at least came to our table
at one point was the owner and we asked how the whole kitchen nightmares experience was and he's
like oh you know he came in he complained about all the stuff we had stuck on the walls and the
and on the shelves and how it was never dusted and we threw a lot of stuff in the dumpster but a
couple things i went back and got and hid in my house until they left and then i brought them back
there was a big mannequin that was at the entrance um the place closed and reopened recently as the
butchery, or open again in the last five years as the butchery.
Same people or new people?
Same, might be same people.
I don't know.
I never saw that guy, like, and I've been to the butchery maybe three or four times.
They have incredible breakfasts, or they did.
They no longer do breakfast there.
So it's like lunch and dinner only.
And I haven't had a reason to go back there and try lunch or dinner because their breakfasts were so good.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
But I wonder if that actually gave them, at least at the time, a boost.
I'm sure it gave them a boost.
Yeah.
They wouldn't have promoted like recently featuring Kitchen Nightmares because then people
are like, oh, well, that place now has got to be a lot better than it used to be.
Let's go there and check it out, even if they'd never been there before.
It's what drew us and the crazy neighbors there.
It's, oh, that's interesting.
So it did work in that regard.
So I know this has, like some restaurants that diners, drive-ins and dives goes to, actually,
some of them were like in huge trouble and it turned them around, like, completely made the place success.
and now they still exist because of this one appearance.
I think that's really actually very rad.
Yeah, I do too.
If it does help that sort of thing, you know,
you don't hear about any backlash of like,
oh, you know, Gordon Ramsey came here
and basically made the restaurant just like another restaurant
that lost all of its charm and that sort of thing.
Sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm looking at their website and their steaks look fantastic.
Ooh, I'd go for that.
Yeah.
I'm having a bison steak tonight.
Oh, bison.
That's nice and lean.
Yeah, have jealousy, everyone.
Have jealousy.
I do have jealousy.
We got a good deal.
I could have a steak tonight.
We're going to trivia tonight.
So, and the place we're going does have.
But not bison.
Not bison steak.
No.
No, it's something from a less endangered species probably is where you go.
Right.
Yes, probably a burger is what I'll have.
Or what they call, what is actually on the menu as their really good chop salad,
which is a really good chop salad.
I love chop salad.
I love chopped salad so much.
Just give me a big wedge of cold wet lettuce and cover it in shit.
I'm in.
Covered bacon and chicken and avocado chunks and Swiss cheese cubes and stuff like that.
Oh, man.
I'm so, I'm so into it.
After singing with that guy I did with Charity for Money, what is this?
Yeah, it's a TV Zigan talking about Guy Fieri.
Oh, Guy Fierry's fine.
He's fine.
I am so on the, you know, totally on the Guy Fierry.
he's a great dude he just looks like every accessory in the truck catalog is basically the
yeah no I mean it's easy to look at the guy and go whatever whatever but the when the wildfires
hit that dude's out there cooking and helping and donating and here's nothing wrong with that guy
he's there's no like that guy has no shortage of heart and and puts it all into everything so
seems like he's got good kids like he's fine absolutely yes stereotypes aside you can have all the you can make
all the fun you want about gangster town or flavor tent. If you want to look like
smash mouth, totally fine. Just, you know, keep doing all the good things you do for
people in trouble. Yeah, and all we ask for is don't put the sunglasses on
backwards. That's all we're asking.
Yes. Don't have them back here. Inside a restaurant with the, with the thing that keeps your
glasses from falling, like from you losing your sunglasses if they were to fall off
in a high wind. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's a good point. All right. The rest of
this email, PS, this is Taylor still speaking, says, a truly special thank you,
to Brian for his dedication to raising awareness for MS.
Recently, my father was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease,
and it's been a rough thing to come to terms with.
He's truly the best man a father can be.
I admit I've never been one to think about fundraising events
to spread awareness for disease research,
but I greatly admire Brian doing this as,
sorry, doing what he does for his loved ones.
He has inspired me to find some chode butter and search for similar events.
So I'd love his first thing is to get some chode butter.
Chode butter.
That's the step.
I'm in a bicycle.
What's the first step?
Chode better.
Chode better.
Step one.
Chode butter.
Step two.
Bike.
Anyway, so I can do my part to help spread awareness for the continuing fight to cure
these awful diseases.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Brian.
Well, that's really nice.
Oh, that's super cool.
Yeah.
Good.
Well, thank you, Taylor, and happy to do it.
Worth all the sweaty uphill business, all that stuff.
All worth it.
For sure. And sadly, it's been, it's been just a little over a week.
It's been like nine days since my ride.
I haven't gotten back on the bike and I need to.
You know, you train, you basically,
do this training thing every day, day after day after day.
And I look at the bike and I'm like, oh, I need to get back on that bike.
But there's all this other stuff that I put off while I was doing all my training that I need to get to.
Yeah, look, those resin sculptures aren't going to print themselves, okay?
Oh, I wish it was something that fun.
No, it's mostly work.
I record a training video for this client of mine who doesn't know how to add a product to their database.
Oh, those poor sons of bitches.
Yeah, but I need to do that.
I've got a seat that I need to swap out and then see how that does for long distance writing.
Nice.
Bust out the chode butter and make it happen.
Today, later today, play retro is happening with me and Brian Dunaway, 330 Mountain Time, the per usual time at Frogpants.
If you want to watch it live, we get the podcast after, we're talking about pitfall.
I don't know if you'd say it's here.
I don't know you call it like the original platformer, but it's, you know, it deserves a place in historic memory in gaming.
It also, you know, probably helped Activision become what Activision would eventually become, although to mixed results.
We'll talk about that some as well.
But yeah, play retro today. Pitfall. Pitfall Harry, baby.
Was that game, am I remembering correctly that it was, you know, it also was kind of a precursor to all these randomly generated dungeons where you didn't.
know what the next screen was going to be if it was going to be a three alligator vine or if it was
going to be rolling logs or anything like that like it was it was very early in that in that in that regard
absolutely yeah because most games you know predetermined everything this was like hey you don't know
what you're going to get in the next screen and uh love that you can memorize patterns or stuff like
that you basically had to yeah and in some ways i mean my favorite game series of all time diablo
one two and three and soon to be four uh thrives on you you you
It's never the same dungeon twice, no matter what you're doing.
Even in a single player, it's always mixed up and changed.
And without those kinds of texts, I'd be less of a gamer.
I'd love that stuff.
For sure.
It's emergent and new and replayable.
And it's great.
So, yeah, we'll talk about all that tonight.
Play retro, wherever you get your podcast.
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That's it, Brian.
Hey, let's play a song.
You got a song.
Let's play it.
I have a song.
Let's play it.
Keith wrote in and said,
Hey, school and bored.
As the school year comes to a close, my girlfriend and I want to request a cover for our great friend Buddy.
Yes, his first name is really Buddy.
He's a school teacher and has made it through another year of imparting wisdom to our future leaders.
Can I prevail on the covermaster to choose a cover of any Olivia Newton-John song on an open day you need to fill?
If that's not possible than any song with his science theme, as this is what he teaches.
With any luck, this will alleviate some of the pain of the dreaded and yet inevitable.
Hi, Mr. Smith, do you remember me from his former students when all out and about?
Noah's last name isn't Smith.
I'm just trying not to totally embarrass him.
It's rather hilarious as to the age range of the person saying this because he's been doing the teaching thing for a few years.
Like, he is going to retire soon, length of service.
He never sees it coming, and I've been witness to this happening from waitresses, bartenders, and clerks.
I keep waiting for the exotic dancer story, but alas, I don't think that one is going to happen.
Thanks ever so much for doing this.
of the morning stream.
Have a great summer of fun, Buddy, from Keith and his cupcake.
Long story.
Well, apparently, Buddy loves Olivia Newton-John, and I can't blame him.
I made my dad drag me to see Greece over and over and over.
And it wasn't the music.
It wasn't the high school hijinks.
It wasn't Travolta.
It was getting to see Olivia Newton-John as, you know, the moral of that story is,
if the guy you like keeps forgetting you and, you know, disregard.
guards you and dumps you, change yourself to be more of the guy or more of the woman that he
wants. It's a lesson that we can all learn. Anyway, let's get to this cover right here. It's
a cover of Olivia Newton-John's, one of her first earliest singles, have you never been mellow,
grammatically incorrectly titled, performed here by the trailer park troubadours from their album,
Way Cool World. Oh, I love the name of that. That's great. Here it is. Thank you all for joining us.
We'll be back tomorrow with a fresh hot Wednesday.
Oh my gosh,
it's already Wednesday again.
It's already Wednesday.
Yeah.
That's effed up.
Anyways.
We'll see who joins us tomorrow.
My guess is it'll, oh, nobody.
It's me and you because Randy.
I think it's just going to be two of us for recommendals.
Yeah.
We may.
Nicole's a maybe, but Randy is a definite no.
Yeah, it sounds like it's going to be rough.
But if not, we may ask Donaway.
I don't know.
He may be willing.
Oh, right.
He said he'd be up for it.
Oh, we should totally get done away.
Yeah.
We'll basically get him.
We'll book you on the show.
with him. We'll get him for a feud and then we'll end the show with
recommendals. Yeah, we'll see what that guy likes. I mean, we assume he can
do this. We don't know. He's got work, so I don't know. But we'll find out.
I can recommend something he's got a Blu-ray edition. He probably does in his pants. He has
it everywhere. It's all over the list. Yes. All right. That's it, everybody. Thanks for
listening. Thanks for watching. We'll see you tomorrow.
There was a time when I was in a hurry as you are, I was like you, there was a day when I just had to tell my point of view, I was like you.
I don't mean to make you proud
I just want you to slow down
Have you never been mellow
Have you never tried
Find a comfort from inside
Have you never been happy just to sing your song?
Have you never let someone else be strong?
Oh, yeah, fancy man, feeling so good.
Let's talk to all the people got to hear in the cul-de-sac.
You all never been so mellow.
Running around as you do.
With your head up in the clouds, I was like you.
I never had time to lay back, kick my shoes off, to close my eyes, I was like you.
Now, you're not hard to understand, you need someone to understand, you need someone to
to take your hand.
Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried to find a comfort from inside you?
Have you never been happy just to sing your song?
Have you never let someone else
Have you never
Let someone else
Have you never let someone else
Be strong
That's bad for the
I say be strong
Yeah
Talk to the people
I mean you never feel so good
Come down into the cul-de-sack
We gather we meet we chat
We barbecue we cook out
Feeling so good
Everybody mellow
I'm mellow
I feel good
You feel good
You feel good
This man
Oh, I can stand it
Everybody's dancing, man
Oh, they're grooving, they're singing, they sway, and they eat
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