The Morning Stream - TMS 2315: Wax n Vax

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Deep Breath in, Deep Breath out, PANCAKES. I guess I'm the manager today. BA Barakus Variant. Fix that Floater! Is this your dream deck card? Interview With the Wumpire. I agree, I don't deserve your wife either. Fast Food Economics 101. The less U-R-in a pool, the better. Always check your flem level. Did the Volume Move for You? A Struggling Creature Who Was Ready To Die. Two Baby Hippos in the Toilet with Amy. Designing your rat park with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, deep breath in, deep breath out. Pancakes! I guess I'm the manager today. The B.A. Barrackus variant. Fix that floater. Is this your dream deck card? Interview with the wumpire. I agree. I don't deserve your wife either.

Fast food economics 101. The less you're in a pool, the better. Always check your phlegm level. Did the volume move for you? A struggling creature who was ready to die. Two baby hippos in the toilet with Amy. Designing your rat park with one. Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

My mom said you can come over and swim, but if you sit in the pool again, you're going to have to go to church with us in the morning as a punishment. A mayonnaise man likes mayonnaise on his bread. Can a mayonnaise man have mayonnaise on his bread, please? This is a mess. the morning stream doing it for a kowalski hello everybody welcome to tmph oh that didn't work one there we go the volume would not move for me uh welcome button the blue button scott welcome to tms everybody it is thursday july 7th 2022 i'm scott johnson that's brian ibitt hi

brian ibitt oh hello hello hey man uh we were talking and appreciate show how it's it's thores day it's uh ragnar or uh 11 thunder day 11 thunder day yes yeah and two two thors enter one thor leaves that's right it's beyond thunder day that's right it's battle royale you never asked for but you're getting it uh wait a minute so what times you're what times you're viewing what you're six uh 30 650 650 do you before or after before uh there's a Chewys Mexican restaurant that is right next to one of those that just came in from

just got shipped in from Austin, Texas. Fresh hot off the grill. Chewis is great. Chewis is so, so good. My wife went there while she was in Austin, she loved it. She thought it was amazing. I'm hoping they keep expanding West for you because I'm hoping you guys get one there.

We've got three in town here, I believe, and there's always a wait. That's how popular they are. And they've been open for years so they're um uh you know they've earned their place still popular right exactly it isn't just the initial hey new restaurant we got to go there to check it out it's you know it's still a lot of people uh making making lots of weights i forgot to tell you this yesterday but we went to a smash burger the other day kim and i uh-huh and um that place is a nightmare i don't know what happened oh no really yeah it's real bad they had like two guys working there uh

Um, both, neither of the managers, I watched three couples demand refunds because they were waiting either too long or got the wrong food. Yeah, three in a row. So they were all stacked up. This guy's again, I want to talk to her manager as well, I guess I kind of am that for today. What is it. Oh, no. That's always a bad sign. Yeah. It sounded to me like things were in complete disarray. And so I went, yes, that might be me. When we went in there, we, we waited a while, but we didn't, whatever. It's fine. You know, I could tell that they're overworked and. understaffed and and so they gave us or so we we ordered uh we split two things we said all right we'll get a turkey burger cut that in half and we'll also get a salad and cut that in half and normally their salads are great and also i really like their burgers and typically i do um they come out bring it to the table that's how they do it with a little stand-up thing and it's like oh thanks for bringing that and whatever they're like oh wait they didn't bring any dressing okay cool no problem i'll go back there and ask for it so i go there and ask for it where i'm waiting and actually two of the people in front of me are the or two of the four who get

refunds. When they finally get done, the guy's looking at me like, uh-oh. And I said, I said, hey, we just didn't get any dressing. Is there's, can we grab that? And he goes, oh, yeah, um, hang on a second. He runs in the back. Comes out front. What kind did you want? I said, oh, well, what do you have? He says, oh, I think ranch and in the blue cheese one. And I said, oh, blue cheese. That sounds great. Because it's a cob salad. That sounds good. Yeah. He goes, blue cheese, right? And I said, yeah. He goes, okay, it goes run to the back, comes back out and says, you just want the blue cheese. You just want the blue cheese. cheese, right? Just the blue cheese? I said, yeah, that's the one. Goes back in the back, comes out

with two of these little cups. And at first glance, I'm like, oh, he got it. They look like, you know, it's full of white dressing. And he sets them on the counter. And they're just two cups of clumps of. Oh, like the dry, like the crumbles, blue trees, cheese crumbles. Yeah, it's the crumbles, not any sort of dressing. And I looked at, I looked at those, and I looked at him, and I saw in his eyes, a struggling creature who was ready to die, and I said, thanks, and I took him to the table. Because I couldn't, I couldn't bear to tell him he was wrong again after all this stuff they were going through. So we kind of didn't need that. I don't know what was going to happen. I don't know how he was going to haul a ranch in there if you would ask for that. Yeah, it was bad. So I don't know what's

going on there, but somebody on Twitter said, look, I, I'm in a business that studies like the current state of retail and service and stuff. he says people don't talk about it very much but we're in the middle of what is kind of like a soft launch strike he says he says what that means is like you'll have underpaid workers just not coming in managers refusing to work because they can't keep employees around and it's mostly in these these industries right and saying that they and they were so overworked and so underappreciated during the during the pandemic with all of that going on plus expected to be there every day during the worst of the pandemic that they're just kind of burnt they're all burnt out and that this is just a sign of like this soft strike that's happening like everybody's just kind of like meh i'm not going i'm not doing i'm not thing you know right that whole thing so it feels like it's a little bit of like what we ran into when when i told you the story we went to the um the red robin and they were like

three people and said they couldn't take a table bigger than four or whatever that whole thing I think there's something to it. There's something going on. Yeah, there definitely is. I mean, people are saying, you know, pay a living wage and maybe you'll get, you know, better employees or people show up to work. And I'd kind of say it's like a, it's a snake eating its tail. Because the problem is you still aren't, a lot of places still aren't up to full customer capacity like they were pre-2020. Yeah. So they're not making enough money. They're having to raise their prices, which is turning customers away even more.

and making it harder to hire, you know, good, good workers. It's such a, it's like, I don't know what the solution is because it's the problem that is feeding itself, you know, it's. Well, I mean, so it goes like this. Adhesive Wombat has a pretty good comment here. He says in the chat, the social contract is crumbling. Why work if you still can't afford to live? It's a really great question.

Red Fragel says, expecting people to put up with people's shit job without. out put up with people shit pay. I mean, yeah, that's basically it. I mean, I would be the same thing. I'd be, you know, I would be frustrated if I was an employee right now trying to, if I was a manager or an employee trying to stay at a job where I'm not getting paid enough or not being able to keep good people. I took somebody in my lift yesterday who is an owner of a bar in downtown Denver and he, you know,

he says, yeah, I'm just exhausted. I've been coming off my fourth or fifth. the double shift in a row because I'm training people that leave in a week, you know, that basically decide that they can do better or they want to try and do better somewhere else. And so he spends his time training somebody and doing his regular, you know, doing his regular management job probably and also serving customers. Yeah. And it's a lot, man.

It is a lot. So I don't know what the solution is. I know what it is. Here's what it is. all of these companies keep posting record profits. How is that possible and they can't pay their people living wages? I don't know. Like, I don't want to soapbox this too much, but basically like, you know, Exxon posting, like, record profits.

More money than they've ever made. Okay, well, why is gas prices so high? Like, yeah. They can all blame it on us all they want. But at the end of the day, when, like, Microsoft said, or not Microsoft, McDonald says, sorry, we have to raise everything. Everything's going up. It's just, I'm sorry, it's the pandemic and it's supply chain.

And then they turn right around and poor quarterly profits that are unreasonably high and higher than they've ever been. Freaking bullshit. Yeah. That's it, man. That's the answer. You got to let loose a little bit up at the top, boys.

You can't maintain this. You can't sustain it. I know. Who knows? I mean, maybe what's going to happen from this or some of these places are going to close, you know, the less, the poor performing ones that can't bring people in

And with other attractions like better food or better customer service or whatever, they'll just shut down making people have to go to other places, increasing the number of people that can go there, increasing the customer base. And maybe that's the solution, right? Maybe. We've just got too many garbage restaurants and they just need to close. They just need to die. Well, there is that whole, you know, the bubble concept, right?

Things are just, it's like too much. So you've got to pull back and making common people do the pulling back. that's effed up you all need to you're all billionaires let it let a little bit loose you'll be fine it's no big deal i'm ready for i'm ready for taco bill just to win the fast food wars and uh and and and all the other fast food places just go away yeah that's fine i'm okay with that i like i drove somebody yesterday i did lift for quite a while yesterday i drove somebody who was a door dasher and i said oh does that give you kind of an advantage to knowing like which restaurants her better because more people order from them.

Yeah. She says, yeah, like I had 35 orders for firehouse subs in the last three days. Oh, my gosh. And it's easily the place that she goes to the most. And I said, oh, so, you know, I guess that might indicate that it's the most popular, i.e., it's the best of the faster places that you can go to. She's like, no, it just. It's just really close and has the shortest time in Rub Hub or DoorDash or wherever, whichever app it was in.

So that's not. Yeah, I guess it doesn't indicate what you would think it would indicate. But if you open up the DoorDash app and you see Firehouse subs, deliver in 15 minutes. And then this other place, like a much better sub shop or sandwich shop delivers in 45. It's like, well, do I want 45 minutes for better sandwich or do I want food now? food now. I bet that, I bet you always err on the side of I want food now. I'll bet. That's a really good point. I mean, Firehouse subs is good. Oh, they are good, yeah. I would, rank them high above Subway and even Quiznos, but I still put them under, I think I still put them

under Jersey mics. And if you can find a Blimpies, holy cow, so much. Blimpys. Blimpys is so much right at the top of that list. I miss them so bad. It's embarrassing that they left and never came back, those bastards. It really is. Yeah. Well, Well, anyway, so here we are, solving the world's problems once again. Economics 101 here with TMS. Professor Ibbett and Professor Johnson, now retiring with our 401K and our tenure. All right.

Let's tell you the story. I was at the pool yesterday, and just a little quick getaway. Kim and I ran over there. We go out of time when we're trying to minimize how many people are there. Because I don't want to, I just, you know, COVID aside, I just don't want to be jammed into a pool of the bunch of people. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of hate it. So we went around four, which is usually a pretty good time to do it.

People are packed up and left to go start doing dinner things. People are commuting, whatever. So it's just kind of a good time to go. We get there and it's sure enough, pretty good. And out there swimming and I see somebody in this one of the lanes, like they have this lane split off for some reason still, even though no one's swimming lanes. It's just people are spread out. And I see this guy in there. I'm like, he looks familiar. I don't know who that is. And then he waves at me, like this, you know. And he's got goggles on. I'm like, I don't know who that is.

And Kim goes, oh, I think that's, I think that's Tesla. That's our neighbor. Oh. And I went, oh, it's Tesla. All right. Okay. Tesla man. Nice.

We're all getting along. So he's a cool guy. And, you know, we've talked since, had that barbecue in 2020. Everything's good. Yeah. And so then, you know, we're just kind of swimming. And then when we get out of the pool, we're like, oh, he's in the chair right next to our chair. We haven't been, you know, we just really haven't talked to him in a long time.

Let's, I guess we'll go over there and we'll sit down and we'll talk to the guy. He's over there with his son. His son's been swimming. And Kim, of course, immediately opens a cooler and offers the kid a frozen something, you know. Of course she does. She always says something at the ready. Anyway, just sat there and talk to Tesla for a while and found out that Tesla has on occasion listened to the show. Oh. And he's not listening probably today because he currently is working a shift where this is way too early. So he's still getting his beauty sleep right now. And he only does

stuff on Twitch, so he doesn't do podcasts. He only does like Twitch viewing and not Vod's. So really, we could say whatever we want, but shout out to Tesla because we came up with a plan last night on the spot for a barbecue, neighborhood barbecue in the back alley over there where he

and I, Holmes, sort of face each other. And we're going to all get together and we're going to pull out the barbecue. We're going to make amazing food. And and invite a bunch of people, and it's going to be great. So I guess what I'm saying is we took the Poo incident of 2015 and look at it now. Look now. It is so far behind you that you can't even see it in the distance.

It's just that far back. That's awesome. We'll get you. Yeah, look at us. So is it going to be like it's going to be kind of a block party thing? Are you going to invite other neighbors? Yeah, we'll do. We'll do probably like everybody on both sides of this.

So back in front of the same street is what we'll probably do. We did that in 2020. and it was great actually because I don't know everybody was feeling weird and everything was shut down and we're like why don't we all do this neighbor thing and and it was pretty good so we're going to do that and you know just have a nice I don't know thing good it'll be good yeah yeah the summit the peace treaty the peace treaty that's awesome we we did yeah god it was years ago we did a kind of black party and it was great to kind of get to know all the neighbors and then we were planning on doing a second one in the summer of 2020 and that one kind of fell through. And we really haven't like, not only if we're not planned another one, but we've kind of, like all that goodwill and camaraderie

feels like it's dissipating. Not that we're hating our other neighbors. No, no, no. But we just kind of do the, we don't pull over, roll down our window and say, hey, uh, TK, how you doing, man? How's the things going?

Yeah. We just got a wave as we drive through the neighborhood, just like a, yeah. That's kind of a state things are in, you know? Like, we're all doing that. I feel like, I'm doing that for sure. I'm like, I have so many online friends that when I go offline, I kind of don't want to talk

to anybody. It's like, yeah, yeah, okay. What's his name up the street wants to do this? Really? Because I thought I'd just lay here. You know, like, I don't know. It's a weird, we're in a weird, we're in a weird moment, everybody. Weird time.

We were in a weird moment. Hey, did you book, we were talking about this earlier, or maybe it was last week. Did you book your, your booster? We were talking about booking boosters, and I haven't booked my booster, but it is book, booked. booked, booked. You did book your booster. It's either booked for tomorrow or the following Friday. I cannot remember which.

Okay. All right. Well, then I'm going to get mine in and, uh, then we'll be Twitters. Tomorrow means, you know, how are you going to feel? I guess you, you haven't felt any, any issues. No, I felt like with the first one, I think I felt a little tired, but I also feel that way a lot anyway. So I don't know if that was even attributable to that.

I think I'm, I think I'm immune to side effects from the, from the, from the vaccines. But maybe not. Maybe I'll get this booster and it'll all go to hell. I don't know. I have no idea. You're sticking with the same one. You're Moderna as well? No, Pfizer. Pfizer. I'm with the Germans. Always with the Germans. Yeah. Yeah, Pfizer. So is there some, I heard something about if you, you could choose, and it doesn't matter at this point, you could, I could go Moderna if I wanted to, right? Wouldn't sure do anything. And it's not and maybe that's a better one. I don't know what the deal is. Who knows? Because maybe that's, you know, because I've been doing modern. Maybe Moderna, I mean, really, like everybody you talk to, you ask 10 people, you get 10 different responses of how things have affected them.

Like, oh, yeah, no, the booster was fine. It was like the second COVID shot, you know, the first set was what knocked me on my butt. Well, according to good RX health, the key takeaways of the question, which is the best COVID-19 booster, Pfizer and Moderna or Johnson and Johnson, it says, COVID-19 booster shots are very. available for everyone. Okay. Many people are now eligible to blah. There are... SEO. SEO in the works right there. Yeah, that's what they got going there. Let's see if they come into a conclusion here.

Does it make a difference? Oh, pregnant. Hold on. Let's see. Sticking with the same vaccine. Okay, if you originally got the J&J, you could get one of these other two. But if you got the Pfizer, stick with the Pfizer. If you got Moderna, stick with the Moderna. It says. There you go. Okay. I'll take this random website's advice?

Yeah, exactly. Good R.X. Well, sure, they would know because they're good R.X. That's right. It doesn't say bad RX. It says it's good. Well, let me tell you something.

I'm going to book mine for tomorrow then. Okay, yeah, I think, I'll check with Kim. And we'll see how I'm feeling for for a film sex Saturday morning. Yeah, how long did it take for you to get kind of hit with it? Do you remember? It was the next afternoon.

So I had, like, I had the, shot the afternoon of day one and then the afternoon of day two so i guess 24 hours and then it lasted like eight hours after that so okay not too bad i just decided you know i want to get this done before i go to uh to Vegas i want i want to get it done two weeks before i go to Vegas is because now that that b a baracas two or whatever it is uh very that's going to foo gets my virus that thing is like super uh it's it's it's key marker is that it's very very very contagious so this would be the time to do it if you can yeah and we want to do i want to be done just before my anniversary stuff so yeah for your uh your your your your your trip and all that stuff yeah my big deal hey uh look at

i'm just realizing your birthday's coming up soon yeah like what next week next week i need to get your present out to you i have a present for you you're like oh brine me marr me marr whatever I'm sending you a present that I bought months ago saying, oh my God, that is the perfect thing for Scott. And I've been sitting on it. And I hopefully haven't lost it. I hope it's still where I left it. Oh, that next week is interesting.

I got to talk to Kim. I think we may have to do a bonus episode of FilmSec on the 16th. Oh, really? Okay. No, no, wait. I'm sorry, on the ninth. Yeah. So we'd have to work this weekend.

We'd have to do a bonus half hour watch along or something. Oh, because I don't think I'm here that Saturday. The 17th, I mean. Or not 17th, 16th. Anyway, I'll figure it out. But yes, my birthday's coming up, and I hate birthdays, so. You do. You do.

You do. So nobody, whatever you do, do not wish him a happy birthday. Whatever. Wish him the opposite. Say, I hope your day is horrible, Mr. Birthday-day hater. I did also, I wanted to mention a tweet I did about someone who keeps saying, age is just a number and I said you're right age is just a number and the progressive deterioration of cellular constitution it's both of those things it can be both those things

it's both a number sure it's both the number and the process of the body starting to lose its ability to reproduce cells where it needs doing that sort of thing it's just the way it works it's way it works here's a quick email from aeney in Canada who says good morning scottius and Would that be, would that be Amy Frost? I don't know. Might be. Because I believe she is an Amy in Canada. She is a Canadian.

You're right. And she is an Amy. And she is an Amy. Yeah, she's both of those things. Anyway, all right. It says, uh, Scoticus and Brianicus. Last night I decided to take the initiative and meditate in bed. I got all comfy and cozy and brought up this very soothing YouTube video.

The narrator's voice was so calm and relaxing. About 15 minutes in, I am well on my way to a state of nirvana. When my cat jumped up on my bed. said nothing unusual about that until she stepped on my phone and somehow hit my widget for the latest podcast i was listening to my screen or no so i was listening to no no holy cow fix that floater man somehow somehow hit my widget for the last podcast i was listening to oh listening to my screen was on because youtube won't let me lock my phone okay now i get it yep it is i have a floater problem everybody i know i need yes fix that floater i don't get t-shirts man

Don't read Van any stories for a little while. Yeah. It says I was then. It was then that yesterday's episode intro blasted into my eardrums at full volume and I almost had a code brown in bed. I thought you and Brian would get a kick out of the story. Love the show, bro, Amy from Canada. Oh, man. So what was our intro?

I guess it had been yesterday? Yeah, we were talking about, well, I know we weren't talking about meditating. What were we talking about that would, I don't think this is really. to something we talked about. I think this is just... Just the intro of the show. What we... Right, what was the intro to yesterday's.

I'm sorry, yes. Let me find out. I mean, it was the fact yesterday's intro was just us going, coming up on this episode of TMS, pancakes on the side of concussion. Oh, right, right. Good point.

That's the thing is I don't know what she means by intro, but let's see if we can catch it here. It's just us yelling is what... Pancakes with a side of concussion. I dabbled in college. One-toothed mayo man. Does the Nile reach into England? Hold on.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the TMS the morning stream. It is. Wait, what was the... It was a dream. I came home in my wife had a whole meal. Oh, it's that guy. The pancakes guy.

Yeah. It's the pancakes guy. But that wasn't, no, I think the intro, I mean, it was just that we were talking at a volume that was higher than the meditation podcast that she was listening to her medication. Oh, that's all it was. Okay. That's all it was. Just us. So we just barked it, just barged into her, her serenity.

Yeah. We were just, you know, oh, you're, you're, you're. You're sitting by a very soothing, relaxing stream. Oh, okay. Handcakes! We gave her a not-so soothing, or not such, serenity, not now is what we gave her. Exactly. That's what you get. Okay.

Hey, hey, look at this. Amy's coming in. Coming in hot. Oh, hold on. I always type Amy in here and I'm not supposed to. It's red fraggle. I don't know why I do that. Anyway, we're going to have a little read-me time.

And, you know, that's good. Sit down and pull out a book and read. Yes, it's time for read this with Amy. Amy Robinson joins us all the way from the beautiful South here in America. Hello, Amy. Welcome. Good morning, everybody. How are you guys?

Good. Good. Hey, you know what you need to do. So, oh, how's your COVID deal? You're good? Yeah, how are you feeling? Is your Bethlehem Turner voice gun? It sounds like it.

Darn it. Yeah, it's mostly gone. Like, it comes and goes. So, yeah, I had a good. Every once in a while, it gets a little scratchy back there, and I get a little. Oh, there it is. You can kind of position it into the back. I like it.

Yeah. It depends on the level of phlegm for that day. Sure, sure. Flem level. Always check your flam level, I always say. Also, I was going to ask you, you're in Georgia, right? You're in Georgia. The great state of Georgia, the peach state or whatever they call.

What is it? What do they call it? Yeah, the peach state. The peach state. And boy, they sure like to remind us every time. that show us credits for a movie that it was filmed there because there's a giant peach logo. But anyway, right.

Because there's a butt on the screen? Every Ms. Marvel right there. Like, oh, is there going to be a stinger? No. No, it's just a peach butt. No, it's just a butt. Yeah. But despite all of that and all the wonderful things

that come out of the beautiful state of Georgia, you really got to do something about that Marjorie Taylor Green. Just put her in a... Oh, my God. Yeah. You got to do something. Just do something with her. I don't know what it is.

Just like, you know, put her in a box, lock her down somewhere, strapped in. I don't know what it is, but something. Okay. Well, thankfully, she's not running unopposed this time, which she did last time. And, but, you know, I am not in her district, uh, both thankfully and, you know, and literally, unfortunately, because I cannot, I cannot vote or do anything about her. Um, but yeah, I, she's embarrassing. She's really embarrassing. I wish, honestly, I wish everybody would just stop talking about her because at this point, she's been stripped of her committees, right? So she can't actually do anything

except like go out and make a lot of noise right if everybody would stop paying attention to her that's a good point you know what me bringing her up gave her too much stage you know yeah it's my fault today I did it that's that's my thing is like okay what is

what is the favorite thing of you know people on that side of the aisle right like they love owning the libs right so that's literally all she does at this point and so they love her right So she's probably going to get reelected because we keep paying attention to her acting the fool.

Yeah. She just says such terrible thing sometimes. She said that stuff about the shooting yesterday about, oh, you know, the usual false flag bullshit. And I'm like, oh, yeah, all these people dead. Go ahead and, you know, just go ahead and pee on their graves. You're just a big piece of shit. I don't care about her politics even. Just go away. I like that there's, and there's not a challenge for like who's, it's like a tie.

between her and Bobert as for as to who's worse. So I can I can commiserate with you Amy because we have our own Marjorie Taylor Green here in Colorado. You guys go every other day. It's either Bobert or her that's saying the worst possible thing. Yeah. They really are. Oh yeah. They're they're they're horrible people.

Yeah. But I have I have stories. It's story time. It's story time. It's story around everybody. At the feet of Amy she's going to tell a story. It is it is this is really really timely because Scott you were talking about like uh sort of kicking yourself out of bed yeah the other day and like you're always talking about crazy dreams so i have two fun stories about that so while i had

covid while it was super super sick uh at first when i first tested positive chuck still tested negative so we were trying to do the whole isolate in the house thing and so i was sleeping in the bed chuck was sleeping downstairs on the couch with the dogs and all of that and so i had my little my little cuddly stuffed animals, one of which I bought out at Meow Wolf in Vegas. It was like the, you know, the fuzzy hot pink, weird monster head-looking thing. And so I was all cuddled, and I had my little, my little fluffy bunny, and I was cuddled there because, you know, the bed's too big if Chuck's not there. So anyway, so then, right? So then, you know, finally Chuck actually ended up catching it too.

And so he comes back and we're sleeping in the bed together and everything. And I was like, okay, stuffies, you guys go back in your little, on your little shelf over there. Apparently, in my Andean-induced haze two nights ago, I, Chuck was still reading his book, but I was, I was out. But I decided all of a sudden I needed my stuffies. And so I threw the covers off and I stomped out of bed and I ambled over there like a cross between Quasimoto and Augra from the dark crystal. and grabbed my I just like stomped over there grabbed my stuffies and then like

stumbled back to bed and Chuck just like he was just sitting there reading and just like looked up from his book and just watched me and was like all right well and that was the funny thing was I woke up that morning and there were my stuffies

and I was like oh did I have a bad dream or something and Chuck bring me my stuffies and he goes no dude let me tell you what you did he was like I was actually scared that you were gonna hurt yourself Chuck you're the you're supposed to not tell her that and just act like you were the

awesome guy that brought her stuff that's what he should have done oh no I love those stories so then the other the other story I had is my dream last night see all these dreams are just completely crazy because like COVID plus Ambien plus occasionally NyQuil if I'm feeling particularly stuffy it makes for good

stuff. Oh, yeah. So last night, do you guys ever dream about like being in the house you grew up in? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so, it's so weird. Yeah. So in the house I grew up in, I, my bedroom was in, it was like downstairs and it wasn't really the basement. It was just the downstairs. And so I had a dream that I was there in that house in my bedroom down there. And my stepdad had like taken over. the whole bottom floor, except for my room, including the bathroom. And so I got up and I was like, okay, I have to go to the bathroom. And I go in there and there are two baby hippos in the toilet. All right. Where they belong, those damn hippos. I'm pretty sure your dream deck does not have that.

But, you know, hippos in the toilet. No, that's like the eighth card back. Yeah, it's right there. Right, yeah. God, it was so weird. So the first thing I did was call my mom this morning. I was like, do you tell JR he cannot put his hippos in my toilet? Thank you.

Yeah, don't do that. Was there a little jungle cruise boat floating around in there with them, about to shoot them? Well, that could have been in the tub. So that's what I said to Chuck later. I was like, why would he put him in the toilet when there's a perfectly good tub right there? And I said, you know, I didn't think to look what might have been in the tub. And he was like, well, that was a missed opportunity. Ma'am.

This is the back side of water is in the tub, clearly, yeah. You're dreaming like me these days. That's amazing. Well, I don't have a good excuse. I don't got any drugs at night or any kind of like COVID to try to treat with anything. So I'm just like, just, I get my brain's weird. I don't know what's wrong with my brain. I still don't know what I was dreaming when I fell out of the bed except Kim says I yelled something and she doesn't know what.

She doesn't know what I said, but I've yelled something. I was like, bah. Abandon ship. Yeah, we're like Picard in that episode where the ship keeps blowing up between commercials. It was like that a little bit. Right, exactly. Anyway, well, Amy, it's nice to have you here. Let's do some reading here.

What do you bring? Let's do some reading. Okay, so I wanted to try. I sent you a message about this. So I wanted to try and do the little share of my screen thing. So we're going to give this a try. Okay. Because today's book, everybody likes it when I read.

You know, I just read it live. So I'm going to do, we're doing a nice, light, fun kids book today. So I thought I would just like do the thing where we can see the. Oh, do we get pictures, too? Are you going to turn the pages for us? That's cool. Yeah, this is awesome. Okay.

Oh, good. Yay, you can see it. Yeah, totally worked. Oh, all right. All right. And this passage is the one that my daughter requested. So here we go. We were floating above a landscape of ominous towers and disquieting castles.

It was not a friendly place. Bats flew across the sky and huge flocks crowding out the waning moon. I don't. I don't like this place, I told the professor. I don't see why not, he said. It looks as if it would be very nice when the sun comes up. There was a loud fruit, and where the bats had been fluttering, several pallid people were now standing.

The man in front had a very bald head. They all had sharp teeth. We are wumpires, they said. What is this? Who are you? Answer us, or we will we will sate you. I am Professor Stegg, boomed the Stegosaurus. This is my assistant.

We are on an important mission. I am trying to get back to the present. My assistant is trying to get home to the future for breakfast. At the word breakfast, all the wampires looked very excited. We have not had our breakfast, they told us. We normally have wiggly worms with orange juice on them. Orange juice makes worms even vigglier, like wandering spaghetti. But if we cannot eat worms, we will eat assistant or even roast professor.

One of the wumpires took out a fork and looked me up and down in a hungry sort of way. The baldest, most bulging-eyed, rattiest of the wumpires, said, What is this box? It is my finest invention, began Professor Stegg proudly, but I interrupted. It is to keep sandwiches in, I said. Sandwiches, said the wampire, sandwiches, I said, with as much certainty as I could muster. We thought it was a time machine, said the head wampire. with a sly, sharp smile

and we could use it to inweigh the world. Nope, definitely sandwiches, I told him. What happens if I press this button, then? Asked a lady wampire. She had long black hair

that covered most of her face and peered out at the world with one suspicious eye. She pressed the button. We went forward six hours in time. See? said the professor happily, all this place needs to brighten it up

as a little bit of sunshine. The head wampire said, Vot! And dissolved into a cloud of oily black smoke. So did all his friends. Yes, I said, it is a nice place here, after all, in the daylight. The professor tinkered with the jewels

and the string and the buttons. Then he said, I think I've got it properly fine-tuned now. This next press, should bring you back to your own time, place, and breakfast. But before the tip of his tail could touch the button, a voice said, I'll explain later, fate of the world at stake. A hand grabbed, and the milk, which I had carried safely for so long, was gone.

I turned in time to catch a glimpse of a fine-looking gentleman with his back to me holding my milk, and then the hole in space through which he had reached was closed. My milk! He said he'd explain later, said the professor. I'd be inclined to believe him. The hole in space opened again. A voice shouted, catch!

And the milk came rocketing through. Fortunately, the milk struck me in the stomach, and in clutching my hands to my belly, I caught the milk. Yeah, said the professor, everything's back to normal. Well, he did say he'd explain later, I pointed out, and that wasn't much of an explanation. Well, it's not later yet. It's still now. It won't be later until later. He was arranging pebbles and stones and string on the top of the time machine box. Final coordinates entered, he said, and then it's off to your house for breakfast.

Does that mean that there is a stegosaurus in a hot air balloon outside? I asked my dad, there is not, for reasons that will become apparent. I think that there should have been some nice wampires, said my sister wistfully. Nice, handsome, misunderstood, wampires. There were not, said my father. That's great. I love that. what's the what's the book this book is called fortunately the milk it's written by neil gamon

and illustrated by scotty young yeah which is which is great i love uh scotty young's art so this is such a perfect storm combination between these two yeah oh it's it's really great and that's kind of why i wanted to i wanted to see if i could do the screen share thing i'm so glad that worked out yay um but because you know the illustrations are are really half the fun of this book, and it's really, it's really fun. I, the reason I have the digital copy that I can share like that is because I actually did sort of a, a three-part bedtime story thing for my, my cousin's kids early on in the pandemic. And so, and they're like, you know, five, six years old. So they, they dug it. So, and it's, it's a really fun little book.

It is kind of long, like, it takes, takes a little over an hour to read. it all if you, you know, read it like me. Like, they're all, you know, silly and dramatic about it. But, you know, but, you know, if you're reading it to kids, you know, that's what's fun. So I usually try and break it up into little 20-minute chunks and go like, oh, we'll find out what happens tomorrow, you know. But, yeah, it's a super fun little book. It would be great for, like, you to sit and read with Van, Scott. Oh, yeah, he'd love it.

I don't think I can do the voice any justice like you did, but I could try. I can definitely try. Do you have to, like, when you're reading books to kids, do you have to look ahead to see who's talking before you start? Oh, like, I need to do this voice. Oh, I'm doing Professor McGonagall's voice. No, no, I'm doing Ron's voice. Because sometimes if it just starts with the quote, you're like, and then the, oh, and then the. Yes, I have had to do that.

Now, this book, I've read it enough times that I kind of know who's here. But, yes, especially with the onepires because all the Vs and the Ws are changed. Yeah, it would make some fun. Yeah, it'd stumble all over, though. I was noticing you were, you were handling those very deftly. So well done. Yeah, it was funny. I told my daughter that I was going to do this book today.

And she said, she said, oh, do the part with the wumpires. So I was like, all right, I'll do the part with the wampires. Here you go. Very nice. By the way, Scotty Young, who I knew from his, I hate fairyland work, I didn't know this. So now I've got to go find it. But in August 2021, he relaunched that work via substact. newsletter you just go sub to the thing i'm going to go do that oh and then it i guess it later gets

compiled into a full image release but still that's pretty rad that guy's awesome i love his work my daughter just came in here with a bag from duncan donuts oh all right then there's like munchkins in here i got to go i got to eat all these well that's very nice what a nice uh gesture that i wouldn't be able to eat if i was there right it's really good chuck just heard me say that that and came popping into my office, too. Oh, yeah. Chuck doesn't need, you don't have to remind him twice. Well, that's fantastic.

Go check it out. Again, that book. Give it the title one more time. It is called Fortunately the Milk by Neil Gaiman. Neil Gaiman, available wherever books are sold, both digital and physical and audio, for that matter. I assume it's on audio. Maybe it's not an audiobook, right? Oh, there is an audiobook version.

Oh, there is. I haven't heard it because I always just read it myself. I was going to say, whoever there's a. no way whoever's reading it does a better job than you so you're making it in real time well amy it's always a pleasure i hope your week is as good as this one or what am i trying to say i hope you keep people in better is what i'm trying to say yeah yeah it's a gradual thing i kind of i kind of likened it too you know how you have have a bouncy ball and you like slam it at the at the ground and like it speeds towards the ground right because you throw it so that's like the

getting sick part like you get sick really quickly and then once you start getting better you get better a lot really quickly, but then as gravity starts to take over, it slows down until you finally get completely better. And that's, that's kind of where I'm at. I'm at that slow, like every day is a little bit gradually better than the day before, but I'm still not 100%. I would say in Brian's terms, I'm probably about 83%. Oh, it's good. It's not bad. Yeah. I never feel 80. I don't know what my baseline is. That's the problem is you got to pick a baseline and then be 83% of that. I think my baseline is, my baseline is 83% of the rest of the world's 100%. You can't assume how other people feel.

I have no idea for sure. We're all at 83% of what we perceive other people to be. That may be, that may be. But my whole point is like, if I start there and do my own percentage, well, then yeah, I'm right now I'm at 100. But it's somebody else's 80, you know, that's just how it is. It's somebody else's 60. I'm at 83 of my normal, which.

whatever the heck whatever that is right it's a moving target is the problem anyway Amy it's always good to talk to you

have a fantastic week we'll see you next time see Amy bye now all right well we've done all we can do there we got time for a little bit of news

so let's do it today's news is brought to you by brought to you by coverville yes there will be a double cover story coverville today featuring the music of John Waite

he had a big hit in the 80s called Missing You. Missing you. Oh, yeah. But he was also a member of the Babies and Bad English, so lots of cover material there, although not a lot of covers of Bad English. So really focusing on the Babies and John Wade's solo career, we'll also be looking at Laura Branigan, who had her probably biggest hit, a song called Gloria, was actually

a cover. But we'll look at her music, self-control. Also, she's done some really cool covers, covering Alphaville's Forever Young, for example. Oh. It's crazy. uh john wait and laura brannigan today coverville one p m mountain time twitch dot tv slash coverville and of course uh watch watch me play uh some marvel snap while we listen to some good music yeah why not why wouldn't you do that do that why wouldn't you do that yes one p m think of all the money

i'm saving by not subscribing to any of the playstation levels uh as i until i get really tired of marvel snap yeah which may never happen we don't know the jury's out uh 76 million year old dinosaur skeleton to be auctioned off in New York City. So get your wallet ready, everybody. Get ready to throw in your bids. 76 million years old, this dinosaur. Fossilized skeleton of a T-Rex relative that roamed the earth

about 76 million years ago. It'll be auctioned off this no, uh, auctioned off in New York this month. Sotheby's announced on Tuesday, the gorgeous, sorry, gorgeous. Gorgonsorosaurus. Gorgasaurus, yeah. That's pretty cool. That's very cool. Uh, will be highlight, or be the

highlight of Sotheby's National Natural History Auction on July 28, the auction house set. This beast was an apex carnivore lived in what is now the Western United States and Canada during the late Cretaceous period. It is

predated, or it predates its relative the Tyrannosaurus wrecks by 10 million years. Jeez. Wow. That's crazy for it to be such a similar kind of a similar body type and shape based on skeleton That's interesting.

Pretty nuts. 10 million years in a long time. 10 million years. Jeez. The species or specimen being sold was discovered in 2018 in the Judith River formation near Harve, Montana. I think so, yeah. Or Havre. Habre.

Habre. Probably Havre. You guys pronounce it like Favreve, right? It's spelled like Favre. Yeah. Assume it's Harve, I don't know. Harv, Montana. Measures nearly 10 feet, 3 meters tall and 22 feet long, which is about 6.7 meters.

long. Anyway, if you want to do this, you can buy it. They're estimating pre-sale or the, sorry, Sotheby's pre-sale estimate for the fossils, $5 million to $8 million.

So we got that. We can do that. Yeah, I mean, I'd buy it, Scott, but I just don't have a good place to put it as the problem. No, right? Why would you buy it? You can't just play it.

Exactly. That's the one issue. Also, it's weird to me that somebody privately owns this currently. That's weird to me. Yeah. Doesn't it feel like dinosaurs

should probably be public domain. It belongs in a museum. Right. I mean, like owning a bald eagle, right? You can't own a bald eagle. Yeah. So why should you own a dinosaur? Dinosaur bones feel like they're just too rare and too. I don't think one guy can go, it's mine. It's mine. I found it. Yeah. Although if I

found it and it was my backyard and I was going to sell for $8 million, I'd probably be okay with it, I guess. You'd probably be just fine with that and say, I own it. But I'm selling it you can buy it and i'll bet i'll bet it ends up in a i'm a museum will probably buy it is my guess yeah i don't see a private collector saying oh uh dinosaur bones sure uh i guess i'll buy those yeah i got 10 michael michael jackson isn't around still to to put that next to his elephant man skeleton i have a giant room that i don't use that i could fit a huge uh creature

why not all right i'll just put this in the foyer yeah or the foyer i don't know which it is how are we supposed to say that because i say fourier do you Do you? I say for a year. Do you? Do you? Do you? We both just, we both said it our, the first way.

We both flip-flop to the other way. And then we both said, do you? That's great. That was pretty good. But I, I've always said four-year. I will always say four-year. So screw the French way of saying it. I don't want to say it that way.

I think you can pronounce it both ways, right? Foyer. I'm going to do whatever I want. I'll tell you that. Or Foyer. So some French guy or Quebec. I'm all bought in the foyer. Yeah.

I'm bought it. But foyer just sounds like I'm trying to be too dandy about it. Like hoity toidy, yeah. Yeah, if you look at dictionary.com, it is a double pronunciation. Foyer and Foyer. All right. Well, I'm going to say fourier. So take that.

I say foyer. Yay. Where are you going to meet me? In the foyer. In the foyer. All right, check this out. Oh, that thing. So, yeah, it'll sell.

I better call my loyer to see if that's the right pronunciation. Yeah, I don't know if you're loyer. Why, that's an old, there's an old Jerry joke. Oh, really? Yeah, where he says, oh, it's funny. He talks about how people will say it that way, and then he's like, oh, let me talk to my lawyer.

It's like that, like, Louis. Oh, really? Oh, really? I made a Jerry Seinfeld joke without even trying. If Captain Kippers here, he will find this clip, and we'll see. He is here, and I'm sure he's desperately searching for it right now. That's what he does. all right one final story i think we have time for this one north korea is blaming alien things that's their

quote from south from south korea for covid-19 outbreak so they're having a massive outbreak again in north korea and they're claiming it's because of alien things yeah that we're being but specifically alien things that are being put in balloons and sent over the border by the south koreans to infect so they don't really mean like space aliens they just mean alien to our country Like things are from an outside country. That's a really good question. I mean, their wording is this. North Korea claimed its first COVID-19 outbreak began after two people touched alien things,

according to state media. Blaming exposure to what they said were the virus tainted balloons that had been sent over the border by South Korea. An 18-year-old soldier and a five-year-old kindergartner contractor contracted the virus in early April after coming to contact with some materials that had traveled by wind or carried by balloons in the border area. That's what they're saying. That's not what happened. That's not how this thing transmits. sure yeah um uh let's see science i mean whatever uh it says the the conclusions were

carried out by an investigation carried about by north korean medical experts uh-huh wink wink yeah uh two people had contracted the virus in southeastern province of kong which shares a border with south korea so yeah they got it the way everybody gets it somebody somewhere bread breed on somebody else y'all but also i think this the other thing people are reminding everybody is like, they're claiming this is their first outbreak. It's not. There's no way. This is their first outbreak.

They had a way bad one before and they tried to cover it up. They just covered it up. That's what they do. Exactly. Here in North Korea. We are such a walled garden here. No, nothing's getting in. I can't believe your virus-tainted balloons made it into our culture to poison us.

Yeah. What the hell? All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister, Wendy's back in town and has an answer to an email that we procured from a listener. So yes, that's right. Therapy Thursday's back, but not before we play a song. So Brian, play that song. Yeah, Philly is where we're going today for some grunge pop. This is a quintet called Time. They have a brand new single called In Your Head.

Big thanks to Clarion Call Media for sending this one out to me. Their debut album is called Hydrangee. It's going to be available on Friday, July 22nd. Listen, if you like bands like Catherine wheel or broken head or only sibling you're going to love in your head by time. Here it is right now. I've been crawling at my skin Let me out, no let me in Throw away

The medicine I think you've been come clean I fall apart at the seas Throw away The medicine I think you been come clean clean I fall

at the seams Tongue Tons twisted like a strain Fewer dreams and I'm meeting I think the habit Finally From the bomb that's haunting me

Throw away medicine And you're getting concrete and fall apart of the scenes Throw away medicine I'll fall apart in the voices It's

Still your head It's through your head. You tell yourself it's all so blue, and in the end it's all just you. It's been in your head. It's in your head. You tell yourself it's all so blue, and in the end it's all just you. My neighbor with the enormous boobs is outside topless doing things around the house. Third time this month, I'm not sure that his wife is aware that he does

Does it? The morning stream, Batman. And we're back, everybody. Who was that again? That was a band called Time. They're from Philadelphia. They're a brand new album coming out later this month called Hydrangea. And that is the first single.

from the album and it is called in your head in your head in your head not that song i know no it's not the zombies okay you still love that song or i mean not not the cranberries and not the song zombie yeah not the exactly not the zombies either for that matter that's right none of those yeah um none of that all right we're ringing my cister uh windy yes with an eye back from back from a hopefully a grand time yeah three weeks of way, really. Out of the country. Spent time in Finland and Sweden, Iceland, I believe. Yeah, all the, all the Iceland, or the, what's the word I'm looking for? Not Icelandic. What do you call it up there? Scandinavian? Scandinavian. Yeah, most of them. Not Germany and stuff, but yeah, most of them. Yeah. She's not answering. So she probably forgot how this works. It's been a while. Yep. And I'm not here to, you know, I mean, you know, you answer, when phone rings, you answer a phone. phone. Right. Up till now, there's never been anything like this technology.

It feels like a pretty consistent technology. I don't know. What do I know about that? Maybe her things, maybe she's muted. But then just the regular spicy V8? Yeah, I kind of like it more. I think it might do my own next. You know? Yeah, not kidding. My own little recipe. Oh, there she is. Hi, Wendy. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. Sorry. Sorry. That's why I texted. We were calling. it but it wasn't picking up and I thought maybe I forgot how to do this I was yelling at children in the other room oh that's too bad I mean they're out of school the sound of yeah there's that can yell at children here if you'd like yeah do you guys have any children I can yell out I mean there's the tad pool which is uh you know just a black a blanket case of uh yeah yeah are we talking maturity children I'm we talking because you know uh real quick here I saw a video of going around from Minnesota on the 4th of July where there's a open top car and some guys ripping through town.

I don't know where it was somewhere in the city, one of the cities, firing off like big Roman candle fireworks at people on the street. Nothing to do with the horrible shoot, the actual shootings that happened in other places. But this just seemed crazy to me. And all I could think of was, what if that was Abraham? What would Wendy do if Abraham, her son, Abe, was doing that?

What would you do? What would be the punishment? at the at the house oh i there would be a lot yeah i don't know he'd be big trouble i don't know that's awful i mean so we have you know grown up and so like you'd be like oh did you go to wyoming to get your fireworks we have that here and it's wisconsin really yeah that's where you get the roman canals you can't buy roman candles in minnesota oh i didn't know that i didn't know you guys had to have their neighboring states i think so like it's it's like they've like they've figured out mathematically the fewest number of states that need to sell fireworks in order for

every state to have one at their border yeah and when windover's like double duty now because people go there to get their fireworks like they always have for decades but now they also get their weed there and their edibles yeah because they're gambling and they're all their gamblins and they're whatever so it's a perfect it's a perfect little add-on to Utah and it's and it's stringent uh reputation just boink there it is go get your weed and get your fireworks but don't do them at the same time all right hey uh how was before we get going europe was good everything was great it was amazing yeah oh you didn't feel back folks hard to come back i'll bet it was especially the stuff happened while you were gone did you

did you um was there any kind of like extra security stuff going on with like you know Finland joining NATO and the Russian stuff and all that or was it just not no we went to Finland first and spent some time with a guy there who had he was actually he's a friend of Adams from a long time ago but he has been a tour guide all over the world like that was his job for many years so he is like the tour guide and I should send you a picture it will freak you the crap out sorry I'm not answering your question we were within about 30 kilometers of Russia at the Russian border we were on the eastern side yeah and we went to this really cool imatra is what it's called the city that back in the day was like a destination for

Russian royalty and you know people from all over that's where they get their fireworks and their weed this was that but what it was is this water was released from a dam and came rushing by and they would just have thousands of people watching it all summer long anyway I was like oh man they needed the internet back then um but it was awesome but that it meant we were pretty close to the border it's not like we noticed much of anything but um every every fin has to do with some military service um and so we just asked him about how you know these guys they know russia they've fought russia so many times they're the most prepared group in the world to handle russians so i don't know if you know about the 100 day war the winter war um so

while the world is distracted by hitler the russians are like time to get finland and so there was a million Russians attacked in the winter, which, by the way, if you've met a fin, do not attack them in the winter. First of all, they're tougher than nails. And that's their jam. Yeah, they love it. And so they basically wore white camouflage and skied. And it was 100,000 fins against a million Russians and they won.

Yeah. It's like it always reminds me of the Viet Cong and the jungles. It's like we just completely underestimated that. Yeah, don't even think. Anyway, but he was sharing just some of the stuff. Like, the bridges all have detonating, self-detonating bombs built into them. So that if they need to trigger and lock out any transports, they can. And like, he just told his couple really cool stories about historically, like, one time a Russian convoy just kind of went all the way in. They blew up the bridge and they were just sitting ducks. Like, they've just never outsmarted the fins. And they're pretty prepared. And they always have. been. And the joke is that Sweden just like plays ping pong while the rest of the world is in battle. And so they've just always been that front. But, you know, I don't, I don't think Swedes don't pay attention much to stuff. Truly, they're kind of like, gosh, we're in or out. I don't know. Whereas Finns are, you know, they're serious. And in a moment, you could have one

out of every, you know, I don't know, you'd have a million soldiers ready because they're all trained. Did you eat anything weird over there, bork of fish or some kind of weird? Oh, we ate this loaf of bread with fish baked in it. Oh, my Lord. That was interesting. It's kind of good. Yeah, it sounds horrible. But here's where, and you can post this

because it is the weirdest thing. And I don't remember the guy's name. But there is that's how I'm debating whether I should really tell you. Anyway, we're in this weird part of Eastern Finland and we stop at this park and it's like a, it's not a park, it's like an artist feels like a commune kind of. And as you walk in, you're seeing some funky sculptures and

they're just kind of weird and you're like, okay, whatever this is. And then you get going and then there is a, I don't know, maybe a quarter of an acre, maybe smaller of hundreds of life-size people doing yoga. Like, their statues. Okay. And they're super realistic, and you're just kind of like, what? It's kind of freaky.

And then you just keep going, and I will send you a picture of one, you just keep going, and it turns out, this dude collected teeth from his relatives and put them in the statues. Oh, oh, okay.

So there are statues with... Human teeth. So they're not made of teeth. They feature the teeth of dead relatives. Yes, of real people. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to send you. You send this text or Discord or where you're doing? I'll send it to a text.

That'll just be easier. Yeah, that's fine. Whatever's easy. Okay. These are just two of them. These are not even the scary ones. And those are just real teeth. Okay.

We'll see. And then a dentist in town would just give him teeth and like it's. Can you imagine going to this place? at night. Oh, my gosh. This is horrifying. Look at this, chat. This is nuts.

Hold on. Ooh, those are people's real. But the sculptures are so not realistic that it makes it worse somehow that there's real teeth in there. It's so creepy. Can you imagine going like, okay, but let me just, I'm going to send you these quick ones of the yoga field. It's just realistic yoga poses. I wish the, I wish the chat.

I wish people at home could see these. I'll put them up on Twitter or something, but I don't know how to describe this. It's a really weird-looking thing. Yeah, it was terrifying. And as we were leaving, we're taking all these pictures. We were freaking out. And as we're leaving, Elliot just goes,

yeah, Mom, I'm not sure I'm going to ever sleep again. I was like, dude, you should have told me earlier. I would have protected you. It was very weird. Anyway, so it was a blast, but strange. And Finland was lovely. Oh, wow. know there's a war gone. That's a very Elliott thing to hear, by the way, that he would say

that. Like that's adorable. Anyway, oh yeah, look at this. Holy smear, dude. Look at the craziness. This is crazy. And it's him. They're all modeled after him. He really liked yoga. I guess. And so, yeah. So wait, were these trees, these are trees, or they were trees. Were they just cut down trees and then sculptured in place? Those are sculptures made out of whatever material. Oh, I don't even know what to say about. about it. I feel like this is a horror movie just waiting to get made. I know. Why don't they do it?

That is wild. You can't see these because they're not in Discord, but I'll send you these later. They're amazing. So freaking rad. Yeah. Anyway, okay. Sorry. There's my little film. No, I love it. That was really good. Sure. Captive audience. Let's show

the slides from your research. That was really cool. All right. Well, we're going to get to an email here that we got for somebody. Before you that, I got a quick, easy question for you. from another listener. I haven't warned you about this because I thought it'd be more fun. But his name is Robert from Hender Tucky

and he says, I'm curious how Wendy would answer this. Would you rather? I don't think it's a full therapy Thursday segment, but I was wondering how a therapist would approach this with the perspective of trauma. It says this. Would you rather experience a surgery with no anesthesia

but after have no memory of it or have general anesthesia but have full memory of it? So would you rather have like if you, you know, I think it makes sense, but like if you're in total pain while it's going on, but you don't remember after, which actually happens to a lot of people, I think. Or the other way around, which would you prefer? Who knows why he thought of this, but I love it. That's such a great question.

If I just quickly think it through, it would be the body. There's a great book out there. If anyone's been through some trauma, it's called Body Keeps the, The Body Keeps the Score. Keeps the score? Keeps the score? Yeah. So really painful. difficult, you know, chronic stress can do this.

Chromatic events can do this. Your body will really store it. So to really go through all the pain and then just not remember it, well, your body's going to remember it. Okay. And in some, I don't mean this in any kind of weird hippie-dippy way. Like, it just is, like, you know what it's like to wake up after a, you know, a rough day of bailing, hey, your body remembers that you did that yesterday.

Like, there is some ramifications that way. So I don't love that one. But then the other way around, I don't have a great imagination. So I'm like, what would it be like to remember? Is it going to be traumatic? Like, was it a terrible surgery? Are you watching the doctors tell jokes and drop their gloves in your body? I mean, like, what about that is traumatic to remember?

Right. I'm reminded of a Seinfeld episode where Jerry goes to the dentist. And when he's starting to come out of the happy gas or whatever that they've had him on, he's blearily seeing the doctor and the nurse putting their clothes back on. that that's a nightmare for me like that is like you're you're kicking out of bed you're jumping out of bed situation just horrifies me to even think about that so my answer is uh remember it after yeah wow so no pain at the time but remember it after yeah like because you wouldn't have the it's not like you'd relive the pain you wouldn't have the pain because the pain didn't happen

actually might be kind of fascinating to yeah to see what it would be like to remember the operation Yeah, I would like to have that for my colonoscopy. How many jokes did they make, you know? That's what I want to know. You know what's crazy, and I'm not going to tell you what it said, but a nurse told me later what a doctor said after I was out. Oh, no way. And it was a joke, and it was funny pre-hashag Me Too movement.

Okay. Oh, no. Not so funny now. Yeah. And she just told me like, oh, is that funny? And I was like, ah, and then later I was like, oh, wait a minute. It's not funny at all. Dr. A-Hole.

Anyway, yeah. But that, you know, they're not supposed to tell, I guess. I guess not. Anyway, yeah. All right. Well, let's get to the real question. Yeah, the real question's good. Here's one from blue.

Nothing wrong with yours, Robert. We just had some fun with it. Blue Crucial Rodin. That's the name we're going to go by here. Says, hello, Scott, Brian, and Wendy. I had a question for therapy Thursday. It might be a bit bra, but I've always been interested in what Wendy's insight might be. I'm a male in my late 30s.

I'm single. Never married, no kids. And a recovering alcoholic have been sober for almost six years. After rehab, I entered both group and one-on-one aftercare therapy once per month. It has been helpful, but there is one main thing I struggle with even six years later. So much of the recovery process aims to help us learn that we deserve to be happy or deserve to be loved. I struggle a lot with this concept because no one has ever convinced me that everybody deserves any of this simply because they exist. So much therapy I've been to seems to assume, quote, you exist therefore.

you should have all the things. But this feels like a big assumption just because I was born. Suddenly I am owed all of the things, question mark. Sometimes it feels like, quote, you deserve to be happy, unquote, is something that clicks with everyone but me and is holding me back from getting the most out of my recovery. Does when you have any ideas or advice on how to accept this idea or maybe another approach to finding happiness? Love the show, though, sincerely blue crucial. So this is a really great question. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, been through some stuff. been, you know, down a road for sure. And we're not used to getting questions on this side of it, on this side of the road.

Right. Because, you know, all the therapy in the world, and you're still going to come through with some questions or some, you know, stuff or whatever. So I really appreciate this one. So where do you want to go with Blue Crucial and where do we send this person? Yeah. So first of all, just to acknowledge that this is a thing where you may feel like the only one in the room who just doesn't buy into a concept that everyone else seems. to be buying into right um and we've all maybe experienced this a little bit um but we've definitely all had at least a few experiences where we don't even notice that someone else is having that

experience because we really buy into whatever is going on right right so a great way to test where your lines are is to like go to okay we went to this flea market in iceland was amazing and this lady was like a straight up selling dragon's breath and like oh she was in full witch costume it's not costume it's her right and you know her agenda was clear that she was going to create a coven and invite everyone in like it was her thing and it was right and I walked over there and looked at a couple things and was like yeah I don't belong in this space this isn't like this is where I am not going to drive, but someone else will go and just be like, finally my people, right? So we're experiencing this to some extent all the time. Now, when you're in the world of treatment,

especially recovery, AA has been king for a long, long time, that model, right, which is there's a higher power and you've got to, you know, you're powerless and do all these steps. And it's been really effective for a lot of people. It has also not been effective for some people. And usually those folks have there's a tendency to to struggle with the higher power piece because they're not religious at all or they that doesn't quite like they don't tap into some universal um spiritual force or something they just it's like they're hearing everyone speak a different language and so for them maybe a different treatment model is better it sounds like this guy has had some good success with treatment um but where he's running into this moment of like is that the

deserve of good things. So I want to say one quick thing about how many leaping billboards I've seen that say you deserve something. It's the most annoying form of advertising because he's right in this sense. And I think it's been abused a little bit of just like, you deserve all wonderful things. It's kind of a pendulum swing for reasons, which I'm going to ask him some questions to be curious about. Okay. Sort of the pendulum swing of, you know, being raised by the quiet generation and boomers. I mean, have you met a more entitled group, right?

Where I deserve all the good things because my dad never talked to me. Yeah. And I will take over your ski resorts. That's my pet peeve. Okay. So, you know what I'm getting at, though, like this way of, like, trying to recover something because prudence or, or dinginess. or lack or whatever it might have been insecurity was maybe how they were raised,

who they were raised by, some segment of the culture they were part of. And there is this real question about what they deserve. So some of the swinging maybe has gone too far. Like, do you deserve a break and a chocolate chip cookie or whatever? Like, whatever those things might be. Okay, maybe, I don't know. But that is the way advertisers sort of tap into this thing. So the question is, and this is true for everyone, and I do this a lot with clients, just trying to figure out what their deserve level, in quotes, is.

What do they think they deserve or not? Because it's very individual sort of what this is actually about for somebody. Having it talked about in a recovery setting is, I mean, there's some nuances there that I will say in a second, but just it means like you're running into someone. saying, hey, what's your deserve level without letting you process it through? You're just feeling like, no, this is too many people thinking they deserve all the things. Like, do I? And then it sounds like it's maybe psychologically getting away in the way of fully embracing recovery because there is this piece that just doesn't fit. So let's take, for example, all right, I'm going to ask you two, what don't you deserve? Just throw something out. Oh my gosh.

What don't I deserve? My wife. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, very good answer. I really don't. I agree. I don't deserve your wife either. That's a hard question.

What do I don't deserve? Yeah. And usually the way you can kind of detect this is when someone is trying to do something for you or someone is complimenting you or someone is taking away a job you're used to doing. helping you in a way that you would never ask for maybe maybe it's those moments right man i don't know because i i try to even if i don't always succeed i try to always do the right thing and shouldn't that put me on a level of like yeah you know even if you don't get uh the breaks all the time don't you do deserve them but you may not get them all the time but you do deserve them because you you always try and do what's best and what's right and like the other

night we were at a we were a trivia and uh okay admitted i i ordered uh an ice cream sunday for dessert after uh you wild man oh my gosh after uh a wrap after eating a rap a chicken wrap and um the guy forgot to put on the bill and like oh it'll be really easy just to kind of say his loss whatever But I did, you know, I tried to do the right thing. And I felt good for doing the right thing. But the other people at the table were like, what are you doing? Don't do that. So I guess that means that I deserve it and they don't.

The other people at the table don't deserve good things. You deserve dessert. Right. Which is very. But trying to do the right thing all the time, I feel like you do, you do deserve breaks, even if you don't get them. You won't always get them. But.

So then the opposite has to be true. You deserve bad. Right. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So this is it feels like the thing deserve people do. I can give you a list of people who deserve that. You're doing a great job of explaining this. I love this. I've got a whole list of people that will be put up on my phone. My problem was deserve. The term of deserving things or not deserving things, it comes from this place of relativity. Like there's what do you mean? You do deserve this? Why? Okay. Well, you don't. Why? It comes from like an entire like it, it, it, uh, supports. the entitlement, right? Like, well, I, you know, I got up this morning and I didn't run over somebody with my car. So I totally deserve a free lunch. Right. Right. And so some of it, I mean, if, if you can just imagine, everyone's at a different place on this scale of what they think they deserve or not. And it can be different. Like, you may not think you deserve this. And the same time, you have a high sense of I deserve something, you know, maybe I deserve

love. Okay. But I don't deserve to be successful financially or vice versa or some version of a variety of those things. And this is why I think therapy is like endlessly interesting is that it helps people go through and figure out the wise behind their proclivities or or the subtle differences here or there. And does it make a massive change to understand your deserve level? Maybe. Maybe not. But I'm going to guess. For, I mean, he didn't say anything about his alcoholism in terms of, okay, so a couple things. Addiction thrives in particular situations, and it's usually ones where we are not getting something we need. And not to say there is not a genetic connection and not to say that, you know, there are other reasons and that's another show.

I want to talk about what deprivations emotionally, psychologically, or whatever, may have gone on. for somebody that addiction solves. So I've talked about this a long time ago, but the rat park, do you guys remember to talk about the rat park or the rats? Yeah, the rats can have, they give two groups of rats, two different situations. One is rat, rat park where they can have sex all the time, they can run around free, anything they want to eat, they're just comfortable and safe, there's no stress, and they give them cocaine water and regular water, and the rats will have cocaine water

like on the weekend. Like that's it. And they just have it, they can take it and leave it. But then you put a rat in a box with nothing and starve it of social interaction and connection rats are very social. And it will drink that cocaine water

until it seizes and dies. And not to say that's exactly what happens to humans, but it really is relevant. So I don't know why this person got to the point where they were, considered an alcoholic and had to get sober, right? Yeah. I'm going to assume in some of the therapy he has figured out some of those connections

of what his rat park needs to look like versus the isolated cage he can't be in because then, you know, in terms of my metaphor. Now, in some of that, you know, the closed-in cage without what you need might be something about deserve because I would agree with him wholeheartedly that there is, that the pendulum has swung a little too far in the I deserve category, but I would like him to challenge himself to a little bit to go deeper into his particulars of what deserve means, right? So, for example, in somebody's family, like a financial deserve level might be a really obvious one for someone. So there's an example of a woman who her father was her favorite

human and he worked really hard and raised her alone and you know money was always a struggle well she gets through school she gets her first job and at about you know eight nine months into the her job she just panics and quits and sabotages it she can't figure out why and then gets another job and does the same thing and so she goes to therapy to figure this out going into therapy realizing and it's pretty unconscious and pretty deep that as soon as she made 50,000 which is the most her father ever made in his 60 years of working she did not deserve one more penny than him because he was amazing right yeah and so she didn't even consciously know this at one point she got a job where she made 50,000 really pretty quickly and was like oh no this something's happening and then finally got help right and and then talked to her dad who said no you deserve more all the things you nope nope nope nope this isn't a thing and really helped relieve her this sort of burden she was carrying and hadn't realized that she didn't deserve to ever make more than her father was pretty deep-rooted, right?

Yeah. So that's where it gets fascinating. Like, what is the lesson he was taught about what he deserved? So I'm going to talk about a very general what humans need to thrive, and then you can put the word deserve on it or not. Okay. But a human needs, caregivers, touch, food. shelter, safety, bonding, social, all the things.

Yeah, it needs all those things. Does everyone deserve that? Yeah, I mean, there's... I kind of think so. Yeah, I think there's basic things. Yeah, basic needs, sure. Yeah, right. Problem is who determines what those are, but yeah.

Well, true, but there are some you cannot argue with. You don't touch a child and you give it every other need, it will die. Mm-hmm. So there's some that are non-negotiable, and this is why abuse and neglect. and physical violence and sexual violence towards a child are so damaging because it's taking that very core need of touch that means we will live or die and perverting it or corrupting it so that it's it's loaded right and so that that's where you know it's cliche to say you go to therapy and have to talk about your mother and your deep deep childhood issues it's because that's where

that stuff often got started and and you've moved into it an adult realm you're using all your protective strategies, you had to use it to survive as a child. And one of those is escapism. And one of those is what you find in alcohol and what you find in other drugs is it lets you leave the psychological pain behind. Every single one of us is a drug addict if we have the right circumstances. Right? Because to escape that kind of pain is priceless.

And so you'll do it. And to stop is incredibly painful. So it's with full compassion, I say all of this. that, you know, I don't think he's wrong about that we don't deserve, you know, I think we overly think we deserve a little bit. But I would say that is just a response to actually a lot of people not getting what they need. And that lack of understanding what you need and getting it kind of messes with this. So that's what I would have them explore is just where did you learn about not deserving things? Like what's the model in your family?

recently I was listening to a podcast about generational money things of like, you know, a great grandfather who was in the Great Depression or a grandfather was in the Great Depression and saved every penny because the day he went to the bank, all of his money was gone. So everything was always paper money under a bed. And then how he raised his children who then raised. So, you know, four generations later or three generations later, this guy's like, I'm making plenty of money. I don't know what's wrong with me. I can't spend a penny. Like it's it's kind of in your DNA. It's been, you've been raised in that soup.

And to uncover some of that is very strange. It's to get out of the water of the fishbowl you've always been in and see the water. And that usually takes some help to do that. Right. Well, it's super interesting because the, I hadn't really even considered some of this before, this idea of what you deserve, what you don't deserve. And you can become, the word isn't jaded. when you hear other people talk about

you deserve the best and if you've got this mindset you're thinking no no why and then you can get really down about it I could see you getting really irritated it's almost like an imposter syndrome yeah in fact it's just like that except it's worse it's deeper

like imposter syndrome to go like as someone who does a bunch of creative work I know that feeling as much as anybody this feeling of like oh I'm not actually any good and all this praises nothing you know I can't understand what's going on there's that but then there's this whole thing of like I don't deserve a good job I don't deserve a nice girl to meet

I don't deserve a nice marriage I don't deserve nice kids like that's really destructive it feels like and somebody somebody had to have taught you that yeah and it may have been inadvertent and it may you know I'm giving people lots of credit for you know you do your best you can to raise a kid and you may not realize the generational trauma you're passing on or that or that just

how you survive is a message to that kid of, I don't deserve to be listened to. So, like, a way to think about an example of a child that was shut down a lot and just was like never given the microphone or a voice, you know, may end up being an adult who is just hypersensitive to being cut off or rambles or monologues or is silent. Like, you can show up in a lot of different ways, but, you know, you can draw a line and eventually find back to where these trainings have taken place. And so deserve to have a voice, deserve to say yes or no, control over your own body, you know, whatever it may be, those things stem from something. And so then they translate into good things happening in your

life. So imposter syndrome can be related to this of like, I'm getting praised for a thing I did, which is just little old me. Well, where do you, where do you learn that? And not only, it's not parents, it can be the society or the culture or the neighborhood you grew up in, you know, thinking small and anyone who gets up at you and thinks bigger, you know, that we look down on them. So you've got a built-in critic that's going to try to save you from being rejected by your community. So don't get so big that, you know, you forget who you are. Or, you know, you can just think of all sorts of, you know, words or voices or, you know, teachers can do this. Like, there's there's just a lot of ways this can be built into somebody um and so for this for this guy

i don't know this just keeps popping in my head but i just think it's his dad and that can be totally wrong i'm sorry it just i keep i keep wanting to say well when your dad isn't that weird yeah well i mean you've probably you know you probably yeah yeah yeah the usual signs so that what do you deserve or yeah i mean i can i just keep hearing like um phrases in my head of just like I'll show you something to cry about, right? Yeah. You don't deserve to have this feeling. Like, think of this in terms of any way you might interact with a young person that would tell them they don't deserve something.

Yeah. I mean, I'm struggling with this right this second. I have a child who will remain lameless. Who's a pretty entitled little piece of crap sometimes. And what's tricky is that, you know, Adam and I. I did not have any of the things he has. And this, we went through, we went on a ball class night and went through some lists of like, what if our parents had said the same words we have said, would you have passed out? I would have passed out. You know, just some of the, the benefits of,

you know, a life that with more resources than either Adam and I had. But we earned these resources. We've worked hard. You know, that whole story. And you find yourself. going, oh, wow, I'm really just telling my kid they don't deserve something automatically because I had to earn it. And that's really the basis for a lot of some of this parenting hand-me-downs that can happen, right? Yeah. It's tricky. So, you know, and maybe this guy's done a lot of work on his family of origin and figured a lot of this stuff out. Maybe he could just turn the lens on the word deserve and like what it might have meant and see if that doesn't loosen this up a little bit. And then it's perfectly okay to be a little bit annoyed that people overuse it, right?

If it stops your progress, then you've got to do maybe more digging, right? But people are going to use phrases and do things based on, it's pendulum swinging. It's just the best way I can think of it. Plus, sometimes people just say stuff because that's what you say. You know, like you say, oh, like I was talking to a military friend the other day, it was in the Navy for 10 years or something. And I said, how do you feel about it when people say, thanks for your service, just because they find out you're in the military?

He says, oh, it drives me crazy. I can't stand it. But I'm not going to say anything because I know that their hearts are in the right place. They don't know what else to say. Yeah. Like sometimes you have a fallback when a horrible thing happens, if you're super religious, you say our thoughts and prayers are with you. If you're not, you say best vibes going in your way.

Like, what else you're supposed to say? There's really very few things to say when it comes to that. So people fall on these, not tropes, but these, you know. You don't want to say it's like, it'll pass. Yeah. Is it the headlights of the train or the light of the end of the tunnel? I don't know. Exactly.

So I think that there's some of that in there. And the trick is to see it for what it is and not have it feel like a stab every time you hear it, you know? Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. And when there is a stab, that's a great way to put it.

That's the time to get curious. Yeah. So why does it, so clients will say this all the time. They'll say, why do blink, blank. And then I'll say, all right, let's find out why. Because we say why, and we don't ever keep going. Why is this bugging me? Anyway, back to TikTok, right?

Right. You know, but if you said, okay, why when I watch this TikToker, do I feel lonely? Do I feel sick to my stomach? Do I feel, you know, whatever it might be, it's time to get curious. What are they? What nerve is getting hit? Because that's our stuff and our job and our world that, you know, I think we, we often just keep getting pummeled and then don't necessarily do the work to figure out why we get stabbed when people are talking about deserve. Is there any? It may be. Yeah. What? Yeah. No, I was just kind of, I was going to,

you finish and then I'll tell you because it's different issue. Okay. Well, just that maybe you were taught in no uncertain terms that nobody deserves anything because that was the way somebody handled not giving you what you needed. I see. So, okay, so what I was going to ask is if, is there anything he should ask a therapist for in terms of a kind of therapy? One of your fancy medical names you always tell us about like, like I ask your therapist about such and such therapy or something or is, or is this just so generalized he's not going to get any kind of like, you know, specialized? Oh, well, he can. Just anybody could work on this with him.

It's a pretty common thing, you know. But just, yeah, I would just, whoever he's working with, just express this. Like, this has always bugged me. Can we explore it? I want to get more curious about it to see what this is about. Because it's an unpleasant response trying to protect you, warn you, get your attention for some reason. And the real question is why?

What does it need to protect you from? Right. And sometimes we need protecting. from the things we were told. I've shared this before, but I had a client once whose mother was very abusive, and every object she could find,

she would create some weird, it feels like a horrocks or something. She would make it evil. So she would like, only trashy people eat spaghetti and meatballs or something. And so this client had to go, and like, forks put a certain way back in the drawer

means you're a bad person. Or if you clean, wrong you know like everything was so loaded with so think about that like I can't even be a good person if I if I don't put the dishes in the right order yeah um instead of like oh maybe there's a better way to do it or whatever right and so that's an extreme version of being told what you're worth or not being told if you deserve a good thing or not so a kid who doesn't get any Christmas presents and everyone else does is going to have a deserve problem right or whatever that else that may be.

Maybe there was a sibling that got favored over this guy or something that there is somewhere in there deserve got hijacked. And so it's just about being curious about it, fingering out, healing from whatever that might be, and seeing if that doesn't give him relief in more ways than he might know. Because that may be what's actually stopping the progress, not that it bugs him everyone is talking about deserve level. it may be that it's really the it's the trailhead to find the thing that's keeping him stuck sure sure sure well we don't need more you deserve that is not what we need more we need actual feelings of

valuation and loved and safe right that's what we actually need yeah does this some of this happens in school right like a teacher yes it can set you on the wrong path with the whole well junior larry over here deserves it because he got an a on the last test you don't Because you got to be, meh. Or, like, you're really bad of math. Or you, you know. Like, did you hear about this guy who just won the Fields Award? What is it, the award in math?

You should read about him. No, I don't know what that is. He's, yeah, is it the Fields Medal of somebody help me? I don't know. Anyway, he's like a young guy, and he dropped out of college because he wanted to do poetry. And he's just clearly a genius, but he talks about how he has, like, maybe two hours worth of being productive a day and he just blows him out and he just has to rest and like anyway like in 2019 he's like doing nothing and he just won one of the most prestigious awards in math weird like it's crazy and you're like what and and sort of that idea of like wait a minute do we let that guy deserve this when you're supposed to work a million hours and nearly kill yourself to win awards right like we have a very uh our cold response to our underlying deserve problems in particular ways, right?

Yeah, it's unfortunate. I was talking to somebody the other day about GEDs. And there was a person who had very unusual circumstances as to why they had to get a GED versus a regular diploma. They were fully qualified for their high school diploma, but they moved schools and the school they moved to had weird restrictions that based on the time he moved there, they couldn't make a deal work where he could graduate with everybody else. And so it was either a bunch of summer school and stuff the next year or go get a GED and get going. So he opted for the second.

He has amazing SAT scores, outperformed most everybody in his class. But because this thing says GED, it doesn't matter that it actually was more work for him to get it done than the other. It's has the stigma. Everyone looks at it as a shortcut. Yeah, it's like a stigma or like you were lame and had to do this. separately or you were a problem child or whatever. I wish we would be less bad at that, you know? Totally.

Have him look up this dude and get inspired. Yeah, get inspired by a lazy math man. Yeah. That sounds interesting. And if you, if not all that's fails, go to Eastern Finland and build sculptures and put human teeth in it. Yeah. Yeah.

And weird, uh, weird eyes that, that collect moisture inside them. Yeah. Looked at those photos, man. That's wacky stuff. I know. I love Finland. Do not like those images. but I love that you had a great trip and glad to have you back.

Is there anything else going on? You want to mention? No. No? Just try to survive jet lag and America as it unfolds. Yes, as it unfolds into a big weird piece of gross before it folds back into itself, I hope. We'll find out. Hey, Wendy, have a fantastic week.

We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye now. I forgot to ask her. She talked to my mom. My mom thought she got hacked the other day. Oh, so did my mom. I don't think she did

but did your mom actually get hacked you know mine didn't I don't think she did either but we don't know for sure I think that generation just thinks they think things you know you and you and I are growing up they would say to us Brian Scott don't believe everything you hear on TV and now I have to tell

my parents or my mom mom don't believe everything you read on the internet like it's all flipped it's flipped totally they think it's all gospel I went to a website and a flashing pop-up said your machine has been hacked and it jiggled around and flashed its it's help me button in red so i clicked it so i clicked it what else should i do oh man the olds anyway that's it for the show a quick reminder we got a lot

of other content coming out this week including today's one p.m. coverville don't forget about that it's live as well also core tonight at 5 p.m. apparently kim scheduled the shot for right after the show today so i will be oh nice hopefully fine for core as far as i'm getting my notes I was waxed after the show and then getting my shot tomorrow. So let's see how we're all feeling over the next couple days. Yeah, a little waxy, a little maxy. Little yank. Yeah, a little wax and vax, we call it.

I like it. I'm going to yell Kelly Clarkson when she pulls the wax out of my nose, by the way. Do it today. Yeah, do it. And they'll say, we've seen that movie, sir. Yeah, exactly. Ha, ha, ha. You think you're not even the first person this hour to do that.

Well, you wax and I vax, I'll hopefully not have any repercussions. before the end of the day, but Core should happen. So tonight, 5 p.m. Core. Will it be four hours long tonight? No, just two and a half, probably. Two and a half hours. Just a nice, you know, just shy of three-hour affair, probably. The length of love and thunder.

Yeah, that's about right. TMSPM, of course, on Tuesday or Friday, assuming all is well with vaxes and waxes. And what else? Oh, guess the connection. That's also on Fridays. So check that out. And FilmSack this weekend. We're doing Empire State.

empire state. I'm in an empire state of mind. Some sort of heisty movie. I don't think any of us have seen it. None of the four of us have seen. This is brand new to all four of us, which is a rarity on film sack. For sure. This thing's like, what, 10, 12 years ago? It also means we have no one to blame. If it's complete and totally garbage, we can't say, oh, Donneway, why'd you pick this garbage? Yeah, it's these we have to be care. We have to listen to each other on the veto power. Yes, because who knows if it's going to be vetoable or not. But chances, is our Empire State this weekend. And of course, there will be Dungeons this week.

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Brian, what's the song we're going to play as we do it? Okay. Doug. Doug Traster said, Herr Cover music, Bogermeister. On July 8th, it will be 28 years since the most beautiful woman in the world said yes. All these years later, we have four great kids and are constantly rushing around, always working, and just doing that grown-up thing.

This year, the anniversary actually falls on the same day it was all those years ago. Would you play? I think it means like the day of the week. Oh, I see. Obviously, anniversaries always fall on the same day. Would you play The Way Love Used to Be by Andy Bell? This song harkens back to a time of two carefree kids with their whole lives in front of them. By the way, is it too early to get a fish sandwich?

Thanks for all you guys do, sign Doug T. Do you want Brian or do you want, I'll give you both here. Okay. Do I have both? Hold on. Here we go. Here's Brian. Hey, is it too early to get a fish sandwich?

And here's the real one. Hey, two are I get a fish sandwich. Brian's, hey, uh, is the only real difference. It is the only difference. I like the uh in there. It's pretty good. Happy anniversary, you two. That's awesome.

Congratulations. Well done. So there are two great Andy Bells in music, maybe even more, but there are two, two that I know of. There's the one that's half of erasure. He was, you know, he's the vocalist, works with Vince Clark, who's, you just recognize his voice immediately and has been a, mainstay and erasure the whole time. There's also another one that is a member or former member of the band Oasis.

He's also been part of the band's ride, Hurricane No. 1, and is currently part of BDI, which is the new project by Liam Gallagher, because he just can't work with his brother anymore on anything. Noel's a dick.

Anyway, I'm talking about the, I'm going to be talking about the latter Andy Bell. He has an album called Something like love on which he covers the kinks the way love used to be. This is great and it does have that kind of cool Britpop feel to it. Here is Andy Bell, the way love used to be. Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! We're going to be able to I know a place not far from here, it's not far away love but if you come I know a place where we'll be alone and we'll talk and we'll talk about about the way love used to be. I know a place not far away. And we'll find a way through the city street.

We'll find a way through the mad rushing crowd. And we'll talk about the way the way love used to be I know It's the far away love But if you come By no place where we'll be loved And we'll talk about

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