The Morning Stream - TMS 2318: The Kevin Kebab

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

Third Rabbit of the Poohpocalypse. Facebook is crap. Beep beep beep boop boop beep beep! I Don't Like to Sneeeeeeeze. Black Belt In Something. I was at hamburger until you said sushi. Bow-Door Photo Session. There's a dog on the roof. The 3rd Eagle of the Month. 200 lb Putin Lover. dont be a stoner wearing high heels in a horror movie. The mirror, the original picture delete button. Particulate in the nose hole! Not in a Horror Movie with Amy. Dismorphin Time with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS. Third Rabbit of the Pupacalypse. Facebook is crap. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. I don't like to sneeze. Black Belt and something. I was at hamburger until you said sushi. Bowdoer photo session.

There's a dog on the roof. The third eagle of the month. 200 pound Putin lover. Don't be a stoner wearing high heels in a horror movie. The mirror. The original picture delete button. Not in a horror movie with Amy. Particulates in the nose hole.

This morphine time with Wendy. And more on this episode of The MorningStream. The only serum I know is from Blade. He needs it so he doesn't turn into full vampire. Everyone doesn't have a friend. I love that one. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It's Thursday, July 14th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Ibitt. Hi. Hello. Hey, man. Look, so, excuse me, I just telling the pre-show people that I came to the show with what sounds like a cold, but I didn't. I just sneezed a whole bunch and now I'm in the aftermath of it. Yeah, post-snees recovery period. Yeah, I'm in my refractory sneeze period, right? No, wait, that sounds gross.

uh anyway i'm fine everything's fine don't worry about me if you hear of my voice be a little weird it's just because you know i sneezed a lot and now i'm over it um hey brian it's a thursday so hey why don't we why don't we check in with third eagle of the apocalypse today why don't we do oh good yes let's let's do that shall we it's been a while and brian put himself through some pain to try to listen for some nuggets yesterday and sent me uh i think's a good nugget that i'd like to share with the listeners. This is Third Eagle sort of explaining how speed dialing works. Yeah, chatting with the person

that he begins a lot of his episodes with this other May, full of grace and fountain, and the other guy goes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He calls, like,

it's not even like calling in on Skype or Zoom or anything like that. Third Eagle literally has his phone. And he answers it, default as hell, this guy. Just running with the defaults, barely getting by. Exactly.

Well, here's what he says in this conversation regarding the elusive idea of, what do we call it? Call speed dialing. Speed dialing, explaining speed dialing. This is speed dialing with third eagle over the apocalypse. Enjoy. You're right on time today. so this is fine. Yeah, she has a landline, so she has speed dialed.

Oh, that's why. Oh, okay. I just have a cell phone, so. Right, so you got to, so you have to, well, you can still speed dial, right? Well, I haven't figured it out, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to do it. You get a headache. You mean you actually punch the numbers in every time? No, I got you on my contacts.

Oh, yeah. Okay, so that's what I, so wouldn't, wouldn't you call that speed dial? I mean, all you do is push a button, right? Well, yeah. Yeah, I just touch your recent calls, and you're right there. Yeah, right, exactly. Okay, now today is Wednesday. You know, the only thing that would make that better is if when the realization that I guess, yeah, I'm hitting a button,

so I guess technically that is speed-all. When the other guy finally realized it, go, oh, yeah, if all of a sudden it was like a little sound-effective, oh yeah like a little heaven one yeah that'd be perfect that'd be perfect they missed an opportunity also there is a difference i just like to make this clear yes you're only pushing one button to call somebody on on a traditional speed dial set up back in the 80s or whatever yes and yes you're only pushing a button on your phone now to quickly call somebody the difference is speed dial back in the day still dialed the number so it still had to go beep beep beep boop booboo boop-beep, like it had to do its thing.

Exactly. Whereas now you just, it's not the... Poop, boop, boop, poop, poop, poop. It's the military training in me. I just couldn't do it. Yeah, I don't know. Everyone's out marching at 6 a.m. to my, uh, to my beeps.

That was funny. I didn't even realize I did it. But yeah, right. Like, you could screw up speed dial if you accidentally pressed a button on your phone during its speed dial because that would send another, another note, another tone through the another touchdown through the yeah so now and i get it you know we're 30 eagles what like in his 80s or something um you know he doesn't know he's he's barely he's great he probably knows more about tech than your average 80 plus year old you know probably does yeah because he's

getting streams done he's got the basics going he like kind of he at least understands youtube live and uh yeah it's just the rest of his life that's completely insane that's right it's it's every other part of him that's completely out of touch with uh with reality yeah it's all that stuff also i just need to get this out so we can get some thought process going and get some emails in on this issue okay all right it's watching one of those stephen seagal videos where he's doing his a keto uh you know he's all fat and his in his uh black thing and they're all chasing him down and he's just like swatting him away like it's nothing and I'm convinced...

Look at us watching and listening to Hot Garbage for our listeners. Exactly. Exactly. So they don't have to. But when he's doing all of that, it's fake, right? I mean, he's like 200 pounds overweight. The guy walks up to him, he just goes, push him to the side. The guy does like this. Right. It's edited. It's basically, and it's probably like quick edits, right? So it's like punch, quick edit, kick, quick edit, spin around.

Well, it depends. So he's only having to do one thing at a time and he can take a rest and breathe. Because the one I saw, he was just out on a floor doing this for, like, a whole, like, audience. Oh, really? Like an uncut, uh, wow. Yeah, so it was just a guy would come after and go, right, guy would come after him, push him to the side, guy'd come after him, shove him to the thing. It sounds all like, but it looks like BS to me, but now I've got people online going, well, that's what people who don't understand a keto think.

Let me tell you, it's not BS. It's exactly how it's supposed to go, and he has a genius. Like, I'm getting it both, both ways. So, I need confirmation. Can somebody out there who actually, like, had. a black belt in something or understands martial arts in a modern way. Can you tell me if Seagal is just faking it? I think Talley kind of has exactly the right take. She says that it's fake, but it's a demonstration. It's proper etiquette to not resist. Granted, he's doing a shitty

job. So, I mean, it's, you know, he's doing Akito moves in a demonstration. People are coming at him and, you know, taking the hits and taking the punches and stuff because that's what you, you'd want to you don't want to demonstrate how easy it is to take down a 200 pound uh putin lover you want to you know see what the the actual you know moves look like so yeah total of 200 pounds is being generous this dude yeah that's true my left leg is 200 pounds guy he's a he's a big boy now all right well whatever feedback required uh the morning stream at gmail dot com everybody okay uh so also uh facebook is crap i just want to put that out there I know we all kind of have a love-hate relationship with Facebook, but for some reason, the Tadpool group on Facebook, it won't let me do anything in it.

I can't post or do anything. Really? Have you been blocked and muted out of your own group? Well, I can see it all. Yeah. I can read it all. I just can't post anything. And the error it gives me doesn't say you've been demoted or given you don't have rights or anything.

It says, here, hold on, I'll bring it up. Here we go. It says something isn't working. This may be a technical issue. We're working on it. Now, it's the exact same action I take on any Facebook page, including my own wall, including multiple other groups I belong to, including a couple of business pages. No issues.

Not a problem. Different browsers, all the same result. Did you, okay, so that was giving me my first question. Is different browsers, phone, computer, all of it. All of it. All that stuff. Same result. Tablet this morning.

Can Kim post something in there? Oh, I don't know. I could have her try, yeah. It's a good point. I don't know if she's in here, though, or even part of it. She might be. But anyway, it's weird, man.

I don't get it. I mean, it does. Simply is squared. Maybe they are working on it. Maybe they are. I doubt it's like a, it should be like a system-wide kind of problem, especially if it's, you know,

multiple browsers. Two different ISPs. Like, I've tested it in every possible way. And I can't get in. So that's why you're not seeing like go live notifications the last two days in Facebook, it's a tadpole group because it won't freaking let me do it.

So there's that. Yeah, I don't know. It's crap. It's Facebook, it's proven, once again, hot garbage. I just picture freaking Zuckerberg in some room going. Yeah, so I think,

I don't know why he's suddenly George Lucas. George Lucas. He will need to block that Johnson fellow from getting in here. I can't think how he sounds. How does he sound? That's why.

It's actually, he's like he heard he he he's hearing uh your impersonations of him saying okay uh f johnson get him out i can't think give him some confusing error message so okay now with that ibit fella too now better do that ibbit fella give me a um give me a good Zuckerberg voice i can't think i seriously cannot think of what he sounds like like all i can think of is uh jesse eisenberg's impersonation of him or his is yeah jesse that's true impersonation it's his you know he's like a lot of uh Let's see. We're really big on VR.

No, we're big on VR here and... Too much inflection. Yeah. We're really big on VR and we hope to bring it to the mess as very soon. That's right. We are so happy that you have to... It's kind of hard not to slip in a galaxy... He's kind of an alien, so, you know, you do what you can.

All right, well, there's that. Oh, that's the best... By the way, somebody asked me the other day, what is the best way to describe why the Orville's working for you? And I said, because it feels like Galaxy Quest. without the fourth wallness of Galaxy Quest. Right. Yeah, it feels like the Galaxy Quest TV show that the movie Galaxy Quest was... Yeah. Like it's got that. It's got a funness, a sense of humor to it, you know, a brightness to it, but also kind of all these really cool, trekkie ideas. Like that, those are, that's my best go-to, the best way I can explain why I think the Orwell's good all these years later.

I think you're going to like Strange New Worlds, too, once you start watching it. We're four or five episodes in. and we're digging it. We're really digging the format and the style and making old things look old and new at the same time, right? Or making... It's hard to do. It is hard to do.

How do you make it look like it's older than next generation and discovery, but still keep it... Daryl's all pissed. I saw a post from him. He thinks they screwed up with some episode where they redid a bunch of things that weren't in the original version. of the storyline or something like

some Pike thing to do with the menagerie episode or something I don't know what it is and he's all upset about it and uh screw this show I'm off I'm out which is weird because it wasn't five tweets before that he was saying I think strange new worlds might be the best Star Trek thing that they've done in the last 10 years I have a feeling I could be wrong I'm just going to say this I have a feeling Daryl's really hard to please that's my thinking

you know you might be yeah yeah I think I think you might just actually be hard to make happy. It's my thinking. Yeah. Daryl, we hope you're doing fine. He's not listening, but whatever. All right.

Hey, what if we did a little bit of this? It's time to read this with Amy. That's right, Amy, aka Red Fraggle, joins us each and every Thursday to talk about books, why we should read them, and perhaps once in a while she does a reading herself, which I always enjoy. Why should we read books?

Yes, what is with these books, Amy? Tell us more. Good morning. How was everybody this morning? Good, doing all right. Groovy. So the best description I've read of books is like they're, it was something like you take a tree and grind it up and you make scribbles on it and you create an entire world with them. Oh, interesting.

And it's like, you know, you can control how someone. think with scribbles on a guess. Is Amy coming in choppy for you? She's chopping for me a little bit. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah, see, I was going to ask that.

Okay. It's not. I know Chuck is currently downloaded the entire season of Emily and Paris season two right now. What it sounds to me like is less about lag and more about like your settings and discord are tuned to cut you

on the low and the high. I could be wrong. But anyway, you sound better now. Except now. I don't hear it all now. All right. Okay. Now, is that better? I think so.

So far, yes. Yeah, so far you're good. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Is my, does my room noise sound okay? Is it sound like I'm in like? I don't hear any room noise at all, so it sounds great. Excellent.

Yeah, you sound good. All right. I'm trying something new. I bought a, I, I have two little desk for what I want to do in this room. So I have ordered an extension to my desk. and a scissors stand for my mic so I don't have to like hunch over my desk to do this segment anymore

and so anyway I was like all right but then that means I won't have my little my little cloth box that I put my mic in to eliminate room noise so I was like all right I need to try this out this morning you sound great you don't see you don't sound backgroundy at all sounds good no I'm not hearing any echo or anything like that so very good excellent excellent okay so I have a number of things

for us to go through this morning. I'm very excited. So I had another weird dream that I wanted to share with you guys because it made me laugh. Go for it. And I promise this won't be like an every week thing because I don't have these dreams all the freaking time. But I figure, hey, while I have them, you know, it may as well share it. Get the cards, Scott. Yeah. Okay. So this one, it starts out. I am in a combination of one crazy summer and summer rental you know both of those those 80s movies where to win the day you had to you had to win a boat race you know like right or a ski race yeah yeah yeah yeah well one crazy specifically boat

race it was the specifically the boat race one so we're in that that world right but then we get on the boat and it's like humongous it's the side it's not a cruise ship but it's like the size of a ferry you know like a ferry boat that'll take you you know across to the Orkneys or something like that You're one of those where it's big enough You can drive cars onto it Yeah, sure So then all of a sudden

It's a horror movie And this part I blame Scott for Lily Tomlin was there I know anything to do with Lily Tomlin It's always my fault I've learned Well the reason I blame You were talking about Lily Tomlin On the Pac-Man episode of Play Retro the other day

And you like you played a clip from her. So that's why she was in my brain. Here, I'll let me, let me play her real quick. This is the clip I play, Brian, so you know where we're coming from here. All right. Hi, I'm Lily Tomlin. I'm a Pac-Man freak. I have no idea why she said that.

Right, yeah. But anyway. I was good. I was going to be, please, home while I connect you or something along those lines. Yeah. So, so she and a bunch of the other people on the boat, they were running some kind of illegal, horrible toxic enterprise and it was inadvertently creating these monsters

and they were killing everybody on the boat and by the end of the dream it was just me and some other random dude we were the only people left alive and random dude tries to hit me up for sex and I said absolutely not we're in a horror movie that's how you die in a horror movie

finally somebody with some sense Twitch, Chuck replies, that's the reason? That's the thing. It wasn't Chuck. I literally don't know who this dude was. But, yeah. So, anyway, I thought that was pretty funny that I was lucid enough to be like, no, I'm in a horror movie. I'm not having sex in a horror movie.

That's how you die. That's right. We don't split up. We don't have sex. We don't stand near the window. No. You don't even get on a bed because they'll get you up through the bed like that. What was that?

The store Kevin Bacon. Yeah, Kevin Bacon. got skewered. Kevin Cabalb. Yeah. I think the girl too, right? Both of them got... Yeah, it was a little sex kebab.

Sex kebub. Oh, sex kebub. Yeah. It's a great man. You don't, you don't be black. You don't wear high heels. You don't, like, there's a whole bunch of things that you should never do in a horror movie. But you don't want to be the stoner kid who's alone.

The one in the back of the car that just came along. The fifth wheel. Don't ever be that kid. Yeah. Yeah. He's dying quick. He's dying. He's the red shirt for sure.

Yeah. Okay. So, so that was my first. funny my funny little dream so i have i have a book to share and then i have a little quiz for you guys so which and they they're related so which would you rather do first oh geez uh oh let's start with the book and then with the quiz yeah yeah it feels right feels like dessert all right yeah so i'll do this little reading from the book here it's it's again it's a it's a me read not because the the narrator for the audiobook version of this book is fantastic he's a british

dude and it's just, he's got one of those very soothing British voices that, you know, it's lovely to listen to. But again, the clip they picked, I wasn't what I would have shared about this book. I think robots do that. They got robots picking clips over there. It drives me nuts. Yeah, it just didn't, I don't know, it just didn't capture the charm of this book. So I'm going to go with it. And no, Captain Kipper, it's not Stephen Fry. It was, I'll look it up, but not steven fry. All right. So, and please forgive me.

I do not do a very good voice of this character. I'm going to do my best. Okay. All right. So, here we go. What's this your writing? Asked Pooh, climbing onto the writing table. The Tao of Pooh, I replied.

The how of Pooh? I asked, asked Pooh, smudging one of the words I had just written. The Tao of Pooh, I asked, I replied, poking his paw away with my pencil. Seems more like the ow of poo, said Pooh, rubbing his paw. Well, it's not. I replied Huffily. What's it about? asked Pooh, leaning forward and smearing another word. It's about how to stay happy and calm under all circumstances.

I yelled. Have you read it? That was after some of us were discussing the great masters of wisdom, and someone was saying how all of them came from the East. And I was saying that some of them didn't. But he was going on and on, just like this sentence, not paying any attention when I decided to read a quotation of wisdom from the West to prove that there was more to the world than one half.

And I read, When you wake up in the morning, poo, said Piglet at last. What's the first thing you say to yourself? What's for breakfast? Said Pooh. What do you say, Piglet? I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today, said Piglet.

Pooh nodded thoughtfully. It's the same thing, he said. What's that? The unbeliever asked. Wisdom from a Western Taoist, I said. It sounds like something from Winnie the Pooh, he said. It is. I said.

That's not about Taoism, he said. Oh, yes, it is. No, it is not. What do you think it's about? I said. Well, it's about this dumpy little bear that wanders around asking silly questions, making up songs, and going through all kinds of adventures, without ever accumulating any amount.

of intellectual knowledge or losing his simple-minded sort of happiness. That's what it's about. He said, same thing, I replied. So that is obviously an excerpt from the book The Dow of Poot. And so I thought, which if you've never read it, I really, really recommend, even if you think this might be a little out there, and it might be a little out there for some people, because it does go into, you know, what Taoism is and that kind of thing. But it's a short read and it's really, even if you end up completely disagreeing with everything he says, it's great

for making you think and introspect. Like, why do I disagree about this? And, you know, and like I say, it's a very short read. So it's not like it's a huge investment of time. So I think, I really recommend everybody read this because it's, it's charming. and also very thought-provoking about the nature of who we are and how we approach the world and our place in it, which is kind of one of the things about Taoism. So, like, the back of the book reads, while Eeyore frets and piglet hesitates and rabbit calculates an owl pontificates, who just is?

And that's a clue to the secret wisdom. of the Taoists. So it's literally like you just, you read through and then he, he compares each of the characters and how each of the characters is written to some aspect of Taoism. And ultimately, you know, the aspirational character here is poo, right? Because he is, he is, he is, he is happy. If he has a pot of honey, he's very happy. He's very comfortable with himself.

and he doesn't he doesn't worry about a lot of things uh so i don't know it's and i can hear all the tigger stands out there like i hear you and i feel you but you know digger's fun right i mean you know he's he's he's the party guy he's the extrovert but uh really for the long haul your own happiness you can't maintain a tigger lifestyle indefinitely you've kind of got to uh you can't be piglet You certainly can't be E. Or Poo's the right, who's the right state of mind? Yeah. Yeah.

A positive. It's interesting because if you, you know, if you read the original books, Eeyer is a much grumpier, more complainy character than he is in the cartoons. You know, so I very much relate to the Eeyore of the cartoons because actually he's very sort of Zen in a way, right? Like, material things, i.e. his tail, come in and out of his life, and he's not really fussed about it. He's like, oh, well, it'll come back eventually, you know. And then Eeyore's mantra sort of thanks for noticing me, which implies he's grateful. He's, he's expressing gratitude, you know. And I don't know, as a depressed person, I'm kind of, I, I, I relate to Eeyore. But so, so here's my quiz. It's really short, and I've got two of them open. Are we going to find out which poo character we are? Yes.

Oh, I love this. Okay, cool. Good. It's only eight questions, and I've got two of them open so I can do both of you guys at the same time. So, all right, here we go. And that's phrasing. This is not a horror movie. That's going to be the next dream.

Yeah. All right. So first question. How do you typically spend a Friday night? Catching up on studying or work, watching a movie, hanging out with family, sleeping, reading, or going out with friends? Hanging out with family, probably number one for me. It varies, but that's usually it. Going out with friends on Friday nights is typical for me.

Okay. All right. Where can you be found at a party on the dance floor? at home, with friends, off in a corner, all over the place, or near the food. All over the place. That's an easy one. I go, but I don't stay any one place very long in a party. Yeah, I think I do too, like bouncing around for sure.

All right. Pick a Disney song, reflection from Mulan. I'll make a man out of you from Mulan. you're welcome from Moana a dream is a wish your heart makes from Cinderella friends like me from Aladdin or a spoonful of sugar from Mary Poppins oh geez can you give me the first three again reflection or that's the one we're like why will my reflection show I can't I can't and I'll make a man out of you from Mulan that's the you know the Donnie Osmond one. Let's get down to business. That one. Exactly. Yes, that one. And then you're

welcome from Moana. Yeah. The rock singing. Okay. I think I'm a friend's friend like me from Aladdin. Okay. I like make a man out of you. So I'm picking that one, even though it sounds like a dicky one. It's a good song. No, it's a good song. It just says pick a song. It doesn't say like what song do you feel like you relate to or anything? Just says pick a song. Okay. Yeah, I pick it. Okay. Now, this one's kind of weird. So it's just pictures. So I'm going to have to describe it. It says pick a

food. So there's a pepperoni pizza. There's a big, juicy hamburger. There's like what looks like a black bean tortilla wrap. And then like a cold cut sandwich with lots of stuff on it. Sushi. And then I think the one in the bottom is

like Thai noodles. Sushi for me. That all sounds great, but I would eat that whole buffet. I was at hamburger until he said sushi. Yeah. Probably pizza. I always go,

it's got to be a good pizza, but I love pizza. Okay. This is, I promise, there's only eight questions, so it's not super long. That's fine. Oh, yeah, you're doing great.

You're good. Okay, so pick a TV show. Modern family. The New Girl, or rather New Girl, sorry, Gray's Anatomy, The Good Place, Riverdale, or Top Chef? Good Place for me. I think some of these I haven't seen yet. Give me the first couple again? It was Modern Family, New Girl, Grey's Anatomy, The Good Place.

New Girl for me. New Girl. Oh, hang on. Question 7. How many things can you remember at one time? Not many. My brain goes too farty when I get to about third or fourth. I forget about the first one.

For me, I just, I just remember the last two and say, okay. Oh, okay. Modern family new girl. Oh, modern family. And then modern family, da, da, da, and then. Oh, that's a good trick. Oh, yeah. You kind of bracket it.

Bracket it. Yeah, exactly. Then I only have to remember one. Oh, that's clever. All right. What's the first thing you do when you get home? call your friends, take a nap, eat a snack, play video games, start your homework or work or exercise. Obviously, this was written for kids.

Yeah, yeah, snack for sure. Yeah, I get home, snack for me too. Yeah, snack. First thing you do is eat something, yep, chug something out of the fridge, get the purple stuff, doesn't matter. Sunny D. Yeah, whatever you got. All right. What do you value most?

Intellect, happiness, positivity, compassion, loyalty, or passion. Oh. Between happiness and compassion for me. I will pick happiness. Okay. I mean, passion's a broad definition, but I think probably that. Okay. I have a lot of passion for things.

So, yeah. All right. finally so the last question how do you make decisions I ask for advice I rely on facts and logic I go with my gut I use my best judgment I don't quite know how those two are different but okay I follow what everyone else is doing or I just wing it a little bit of all of those I was going to say just about everything but follow whatever else is doing right like you know follow facts but also trust your gut, but also use your best judgment. But also if I'm in the mall and people are screaming and running that direction, I'm going to go that way, you know? Right. Even though I don't know why, I'm just going to follow the crowd.

Yeah, so that's a hard one. We're running to Debbie Gibson. Yeah, it's not a shooting or anything else. It's Debbie Gibson out there singing. We're running to Debbie Gibson. Only in my dreams. Ah! I guess above all else, like if, if my gut was saying,

one thing, but facts and logic were saying another, I would go with the facts and logic. So I'm going to go, I'm going to say facts and logic. Yeah, there you go. I think I agree with that. There are often things where I was just purely instinct for me, but if someone said oh, that may seem like the right instinct,

but here's the facts, I'd go, oh, well, I probably shouldn't do that then. So I definitely do what Brian just described. So I guess we lean toward facts and stuff. All right. So results are in. Oh, that was fast.

Scott, you are Christopher Robin. So like Christopher, you're cheerful, intelligent, and determined. You're a natural leader, and others often look up to you. Oh, my goodness. Well, we've all made it here today. Here it comes.

Brian, you are Winnie the Pooh. Oh, look at that. I don't need to read your damn book. I'm living it. That's right. You got your hand in a big jar of honey. You're good. that's right exactly frequently stuck in a hole i love it yeah that's me

so it says just like poo you're kind loyal and creative you have a caring soul and you're always there for your loved ones oh that's adorable i mean these are all probably positive right even if you're eore what does it say what would it say oh yeah i honestly i don't know so i i took this quiz before the show and i got i came up with piglet and it was like you know it was all about, you know, your, you're, you're kind to people and, and, you know, things like that. I don't, I don't remember exactly what it said. I could probably take it again, but yeah. So I got, I got piglet when it came up, but I will say that I do most identify with Eeyore.

Oh, yeah. Well, so do the, what this sounds like, I could be wrong, unless this is like peer reviewed or whatever. It sounds like it's one of those things where it kind of doesn't matter where you land. You're a good character from the Winnie the Pooh universe, right? Oh, yeah. I don't think I'd want to be Rabbit. Rabbit's a paranoid F, man.

Rabbit looks at Facebook as makes his decisions based on... That's true. Don't go with Rabbit if you can avoid him. Yeah, I mean, well, and Rabbit frets about everything. And it's kind of a jerk, right? Like, there's a chapter where Rabbit makes Tigger promise not to bounce anymore. Like, rabbit's kind of a... It's kind of a D.

Rabbit may be a flat-earther hoax denier, or a vaccine hoaxer. right? COVID hoaxer. Sweet. The third eagle is rabbit. That's what we want. Exactly. That sounds about right.

As we know, as we are stuck in his hovel. All right. Well, there you have it. That was fun. I enjoyed that. Yeah. That was so good. Yeah.

I just thought that would be a fun little way. And again, this is, it can get a little heavy because, you know, it's about Taoism. So it's not like, you know, it's not super light. but it is the book itself is super light it's only like 150 pages and you know so it's it's a quick read and it's i don't know i find it interesting to approach like how do i see myself versus how i think you know the rest of the world sees me and what my place is in the world you know wendy talks about this kind of thing all the time like approaching your your thoughts and your emotions with curiosity right and so like if

If you have a reaction to something, maybe step back and say, oh, why did I have that reaction to that and dig deeper? And it's always, it's always just good data. And then that data turns into information. Self-awareness is hard, but once you figure out how to do it, it's like you can almost stand next to yourself when you do things and go, now, why did I do that? And then, you know, evaluate it and change it the next time. And it's really, it's really great stuff that that particular stuff that she talks about. It's just so hard to remember it in the moment, you know? It is.

It is. It's really interesting. I had a thing like that once. I remember I was washing dishes and my husband was in a really bad mood because I had mentioned something to him. And that just kind of set him off and put him in a bad mood. And so then I was kicking myself for even bringing the thing up, even though I was totally right to bring it up.

And he said later, he was, Chuck said later, he was like, yeah, you didn't do anything wrong. You were totally right to bring that up. But I was, all up in my head and my little mean voice was talking to me saying, if you'd have just kept your mouth shut, everybody in the house would still be happy. Everybody would still be in a good mood. This is your fault. And I, instead of, like, feeling bad and, you know, just accepting that kick from myself, I stepped back and I was like, oh, hi, mom.

and your need to own everybody else's emotions what are you doing here yep your services are no longer required thank you we've all got a dark passenger hanging out in there somewhere

exactly I feel you so yeah so I definitely recommend this it's a great quick read and it's fun and it's a fun look at a philosophy that is a

little bit heady and intellectual but again it's it and it it doesn't take itself too seriously as you heard from the forward right like it does a lot of breaking the fourth wall and uh you know the the the author talks to poo throughout the throughout the book and so this one i surprise this one i surprise you but benjamin hoff famous for in 2006 renouncing the entire publishing industry because it didn't it no longer fit with what he thought uh publishing should be which sounds just about right for a guy who's exploring these things in his books. You know what I mean? Right. Right. He's like, wait a minute. This money enterprise doesn't exactly match up with my creative idea. So a few guys, I'm out. And so he quit. That was it. Well, I mean, that's basically

the whole forward of the book, right? Like, first he argues with poo and then he argues with the other Taoists that he's talking to. And so that, that kind of fits. I'm looking up now, who actually reads the narration. Oh Simon Vance is the name of the narrator and like I say he's got a lovely lovely voice and

you know he's got that very you know sort of he does have a very Stephen Frye-ish cadence and tone to him so if you want to pick it up on on Audible it's it's a great thing to kind of it would be a great listen

I'm sure because that would be a good thing to sort of have on in the background while you're doing some other work and stuff. Look at pictures of Benjamin Hoff. The only reason you'd know that he is older is because he has gray hair and that's it. Otherwise,

he looks like someone jammed a very young man into an old guy. Right? Like, he looks like Anderson Cooper had a bad day. Yeah. Yeah. Like Anderson Cooper let his beard grow

for a few days before he had to go back to CNN or whatever. You're right. Yeah. He's a very clean, thin, slim, looking, healthy-looking dude. We could all look like that, I suppose, if we worked at it. I'm talking to me mostly.

All right. Well, that's awesome. I'd rather just be poo and eat my honey. That's right. Just don't be your honey and eat your poo. That's going to do it. Hey, whoa. So it's always good to have you here, of course.

Every week she'll be here. And if you're looking for online, Red Fragel 3 everywhere, Twitter, all that stuff, right? True. Yes. Fantastic. Also, I have a little thing to plug this week. Ooh, plug it. So I did a guest appearance on Jim Infantino's podcast, which is called Funny Not Funny.

And we talked, we did sort of a deep dive into, let's see, puppets and a lot of things. It was, it's a great little podcast where he and his co-host Lionel and a guest, they just sort of have a rambling conversation. and then, you know, and then it ends after an hour. So it's a great little show, and I recommend, you know, checking it out. So, yeah, we did, I'm trying to remember. Oh, yeah, I talked about narcolepsy, and, yeah, there I am. Oh, he told me, he told me that the camera piece was just for them in the studio. I didn't need to worry about what I looked like.

Oh, yeah. Jim, I'm going to, all right. Yeah, you know who's what's up, sure. It looks like fun, though. I'll check it out. I've heard of him before. He writes science fiction or something. I guess he does other stuff, too, music.

Yes, I recommended a series of his books early on. There were the Wakeful Wanderer's Guide. Oh, right. It was Jim's. And then also he wrote the Ballad of Barry Allen, which is about The Flash, because his Uncle Carmine used to draw the Flash. That's right. I knew it was familiar even in our conversation.

That's probably why the name Infantino sounds familiar. There's also a Carmine Infantino, an artist that did a ton of stuff for Marvel Comics in the 70s and 80s, like the Star Wars, all the Star Wars. That might be why that name's so familiar to me. That's his Uncle Carmine. Yeah. Uncle Carmine. Okay. So that's him.

Oh, all right. Very cool. Well, I'm glad you were able to do that. Go check that out, everybody. Right on air life. Right on air light. Jamie, it's always good to talk to you. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your week.

And, you know, tell Chuck. to just keep it, keep it down a notch. Tell Chuck to just chill out. Just kidding, he's great. We love Chuck by now. Yeah. All right. We let her go.

That's what happened there. Hey, we got time for, how about one news story? How about that? One news story. Okay. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by.

Brought you by Coverville. Today at 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch. com. celebrating Fast Times with Imagine Dragons and Joan Osborne. What does that mean? Well, Dan Stevens, or Dan Reynolds, not Dan Stevens. That would be an interesting frontman. Dan Reynolds, who's the lead singer for Imagine Dragons and Joan Osborne, both celebrating birthdays, but we're also celebrating the 40th anniversary of the soundtrack to Fast Times of Ridgemont High,

which, instead of playing covers of songs from the soundtrack, I'm going to play covers of five songs that were prominently featured in the film but were not included on the soundtrack and uh you'd be surprised by a couple of these like when you think of the movie fast times of ridgemont high what songs do you think about scott oh it's been so long um do you think about uh the cars song moving in stereo no vb kate's coming out of the swimming pool to that that car's song i remember the part where she came out of the swimming pool and took her top off i do remember that not included on the soundtrack it's not in there why no it's not in there cashmere as uh uh spikoli and uh his friend are driving in the car and uh oh no who is it it's

it's uh like talking about side four of lead zeppelin two is the the best makeout music uh cashmere not included on uh the soundtrack uh that's too bad american girl by tom petty you watch uh stacey walk down the hall to Tom Petty's American Girl, not included on the soundtrack. That's weird. Yeah. Is that a licensing thing? You want to pay for it?

I'm sure it was. I bet. I'll bet that it was. Seems like a dumb, bad idea, but whatever. Yeah. All right. Well, check that out. 1 p.m. today, everybody.

So covers of songs that were not featured on the soundtrack today on Coverville. I love that. That's a great idea. All right. Check this out. About to freak you all out. A bizarre sea creature with a needle-like teeth washed up on shores in the U.S. look at this thing they can't figure out what it is so i'm looking at this photo i'm going to scroll down

some there's also an underwater version of this i can't find it looks like uh i mean that is like such a prehistoric looking creature like the illustrations you get of of what uh prehistoric fish looked like they look like this yeah they got that weird underbite they got the usually got a little dangling light thing a bazillion teeth like uh well like like uh what's her face for from Fargo, married to Jesse Plevins. I can't think of my name. Kristen Dunst. There you go.

Old Stankeltooth, we call her. They got married finally. They've been together for years, but... Oh, they did finally get married? Wow. Tied the knot last week. Private little ceremony. It makes sense for them.

Nice. I love them. They're great. Anyway, these pictures were put on, let's see on Reddit by somebody named Christine Tillotson. Tillotson, I think, is that you think. Tillotson. Uh, oh yeah, there's a tea.

Whoops. This shows this animal with a needle-like teeth lying dead on a stack of rocks. Parts of its body are peeling away appears to be decomposing. In the caption, uh, she asked for help in identifying the creature. Uh, since being shared, social media posts have gone viral. Several users commented on the picture speculating what it could be when user notes, I think that's called, ah! That's about right.

Yeah. Yeah. Another one speculated might be a wolf eel, a species that looks at, lives across the North Pacific. However, third user pointed out that the teeth aren't big enough for a Woolfield and Ling Coal and Ling Cod are known for replacing teeth daily, which is why you can see rows of new teeth with being shrunken. New teeth with being shrunken.

I don't know what that means. Why you can see the, I don't know. That's a bad sentence. Rose of new teeth with being shrunken. Is that weird? That's not just me? Scientists right there, answer. Yeah, real smart guy.

I think that's just... Reddit scientist. I think that's just some user idiot. Yeah. Let's see. According to Newsweek, so basically what's happening at the stage of this

is nobody's sure what it is including marine biologists. They're like, we need to see it. We need to get a hold of it. That's interesting. If you're stumping marine biologists, that's...

Yeah. I love weird shit in that ocean. I don't know why. Something about that. Anyway, don't put that... There's still areas of the ocean. We have an exploring. with, you know.

Yeah, we can't get down there. Just like too much pressure. You can get down there, like with the abyss. Yeah. Would you, okay, if you could. Yeah. And someone said, hey, we've got like an abyss-style boat thing. You're going to have to put a helmet full of goo on and breathe that in.

But that's about, you'll get used to it right away. Your body did it for nine months, Scott. You can do it. You're used to it. That's right. I'm totally used to it. Just put this helmet on and go for it. Would you do that?

I don't know why, but deep sea stuff scares the poopy out of me. It scares the crap out of me, too, because it's, it's not, for whatever reason, like space you're stuck out there, something goes wrong. It's like, well, I'm out in space. There's no way, you know, I'm far, far, far away from home. This sucks, but there's nothing I can do. Yeah. Whereas, you know, deep sea stuff, something goes wrong. It's like, oh, my home's just right up there.

Yeah. And I can't get to it. Yeah. And you just know that any second, if something caves in, you're going to have the worst, you know, the whole, the crushing weight of the entire ocean will mush you. Yeah, I think you're done. Yeah, I mean, the pressure, the all that stuff, I don't know. Too dark, too. You can't see anything.

That's said. Yeah, exactly. So many little things that hinge on your survival down there. Too many little things, like having light, having oxygen, no leaks in your tank, your suit. I mean, it's all bad. I don't like it. I'm sure some people are super into it and that's great.

Good, good for them. Good for them. Good for you. Let's take a break. When we come back, we're going to hang out with Wendy. She's got some stuff to say about an email we got. And that'll be coming up right after this break with this song that you have brought to the show, Brian. Sure.

So comparisons to Courtney Barnett, get them on deck here because I think you're going to find quite a few. Alex, the Astronaut, is set to release her second album, which is called How to Grow a Sunflower Underwater. Speaking of which, this album comes out a week from... today, no, a week from yesterday. And so far, it's getting rave reviews from like New York Times, NPR, BBC Radio 1. It's great. She is an Australian LGBTQ plus singer, storyteller, and out-100 artist. And she also is on the spectrum.

She talks about her autism spectrum disease diagnosis, and the new album is an intimate exploration of post-traumatic growth. This first song, which is excellent, is called Haircut. From How to Grow a Sunflower Underwater, here's Alex, the Astronaut. One, two, three, four. Stand up, look around, smile like you've already made it. Dive in, don't think, blinking off the sword on our faces. I've looked up, I'm falling in orderlies. I've got 17 seasons of grazing under me.

Cold hands Colby, but I don't regret anything. Look from the scenes where the party lights flicker and the hymn of La La La La La La La La Rings. One day I'll lose you and you'll lose me, so what if right now? We went. Since I caught my hair, I've been feeling so much better. It was more than that. Now the mirror looks back.

Never feel like who I am supposed to. Do you know that feeling like the lights are off and you're the best thing that you see? Never! Do your favorite dance, you get a little man, turn around like everybody loves you, everybody loves me, everybody loves me, everybody loves you. ships and cards books i should have already read

they keep stacking up i should just stop buying them and we drove to the mountains for two days i tried to roll down the window bitching his cars breaking the walled and we sold for the old trees and the old wind We never made it So the old one's cage Inters with their backpacks Trying to find their way And late one night

I told you one I was trying to find the right wine To say Since I caught my hair I've been feeling so much better It was more than that And the mirror looks back And I feel like who I am supposed to Do you know that feeling like the line

Lights are up, and you're the best thing that you see. Never. You're your favorite dance. You can hold my hand. Turn around like everybody loves you. Everybody loves me. Everybody loves me. Everybody loves me. Everybody loves you. But do I feel a weight on me? Buying a man's death as a shame. I'm still. Scared of the mean goes from your eight and it's molding. Fabric is more. thread and is there a place for me which streets have you seen a place for me better but i don't always feel safe trying to be hard to be brave so i stand up look around smile like i know how to take it dive in don't think this is our stage and we made it i'm right i'm not a boy or a girl i'm still feeling

In the same cause in the building Bip by a bit. One day you'll lose me, so what if right now? I'm just waiting. Since I caught my hair, I've been feeling so much better. There's more than that, then the mirror looks back, and I feel like, oh, I am supposed to be. You know that feeling like the lights are off, and you're the best thing they've seen ever.

Do your favorite dance, you're an old man, turn around like everybody loves you, everybody loves me, everybody loves you, everybody loves me, everybody loves me, everybody loves you. turn napkins go ahead and open them i've seen them in my magazines would you like to learn how to use them i guess i'd better all right that's one of the best wieners i've ever seen this is the morning stream a rat turd we're back everybody Hey, Brian if I was to write down the details of that song and learn later of who it is, how would I do that? Well, you should have done it earlier. You should have written him down when I said it the first time. But okay, this time, this time I'll tell you again.

Alex, the astronaut is the artist, her second album. How to Grow a Sunflower Underwater Comes Out in a Week. That's the first single, haircut. Very nice. Not a devil's haircut. Don't get confused. No, not a devil's haircut. No.

Nobody wants that. All right, we're going to add Wendy to the call. my, my sister, blood sister, Wendy. Her and I... Blood sister. Blood sister. The new horror film coming from Amy Robinson. Blood sister.

All right. Where's her intro? Everyone knows. Hey, look who it is. It's my sister, Wendy. We're just talking about how you're, you know, we're blood related, you and I. We are. We're blood.

Yeah. We don't have the, like, okay. Anybody who's ever had any kids probably already knows this. if you have more than one, is that they come so different from each other. Like, there's this idea that, well, if these two bodies came together and made this little infant, it must be just like the same base model. And then as you raise them, that's when you decide what paint they're going to be and what interior they have and how nice is their stereo to continue the car analogy, right?

But not really. They come pre-packaged. They're totally different. And Wendy and I couldn't have been more different. She was the studious one, the smart one, the whatever. And I was the owl to your tigger. Yeah. Yes.

And I was this, you know, nerd with all the creativity in the world, but no desire to get homework done. Like, I don't know how we came out so different is what I'm saying. Is that weird? I mean, it's, yeah. It's good, though. It's the truth. No, it's good. It's diversity.

I also think you, I mean, we always got along. And I think sometimes that really helps just not being too. similar. Yeah, I do too. Everyone always asked, oh, you're weird and funny. People are always like, who are you closest to? I'm like, oh, it's easily windy and I, and they always ask why, because they see those differences too.

And I'm like, I think maybe it is those differences. Yeah, we're just really different. I mean, when were you and I ever competing for compliments about our grades? Never. Never. And when were we ever competing for compliments on art or a comedian for anything where we were different? It was like, that was always the, you know, and I don't know, we had a weird situation because

We had all these Koreans around. And that just made it more, I don't know. We had a very diverse upbringing. Diversified, yeah, for sure. Like, no, but none of us did the same thing. No, no. Our oldest brother played football. Yep.

And then my kid does. That's a generation away. There's no one else. Yeah, that's almost two jams. There's no following in any footsteps at all. It's really weird. Nope. Who's playing, by the way?

Elliot. Elliot's playing? I'm literally currently looking at like, he grew 400 feet in the last year and I have to buy everything again and I'm so unhappy so that's why I'm bringing it up he's a big he's gonna be a big buff kid with a heart of gold yeah I don't know how he has any ability to hit another person it's just the opposite of him I honestly think it's kind of his like shadow or the yang or something where he's like so careful and nice and it's like the only way he can have any other

feelings i guess you guys have to meet this kid like elliot is the epitome of like is everyone else okay is everyone okay totally yeah i love and high five and other kids i was like you played so well yeah he's a he's such a good kid and 13 year olds are like what is wrong with you why are you my dad yeah go away it's hard you're dad uh that's good what's funny is one of his buddies um he's like all right i'll take you guys to a movie we go to pick him up and he comes out, I swear the kids wearing dockers. Like, I swear he had on a polo.

Like, he is a dad. He dresses like a dad. Are your friends just dads? He's like, kind of. That's great. A bunch of friends being dads. That's awesome. Dads United.

So not all 13-year-olds are cesspools, people. Sometimes they're dads. Yeah, sometimes they're dads. Make your pick. All right. Let's get to our email this week. Wendy, of course, a practicing therapist, works with patients and clients all the time and comes on Thursdays,

slumming it with us to answer. questions. You're valid questions, I should say, but, you know, we're still slum in it. Real questions from real people. That's right. Like this one, we're not going to use anyone's name. We'll just start it as it goes. It says, I have a subject to talk about for therapy Thursday.

Body dysmorphia during and after weight loss. Here's some background info. I've had weight loss surgery, which has helped me lose over 140 pounds. I'm now in line to have skin removal surgery in July. But now I'm struggling with how I look. I'm having a boudoir's a boudoir sorry a boudoir i haven't read that word in a while clearly yeah uh excuse me a boudoir photo session done before my body goes through more changes and to document my changes uh but what step should i take to work on my mental image of myself before during and

after the excess skin removal because the person i see in my head isn't reality signed anonymous so So, yeah, I have to imagine, this is just a, you know, I'm not talking about this person in particular, but I have to imagine, let's say you go, you know, a huge portion of your life, either very overweight or very underweight, either way. And then you have a massive change like this, your image of yourself is pretty burned in for a long period of time, whatever that image may be. So almost nothing you see in the mirror is going to match what you have in your head, I would think. So with that assumption, and whether I'm right or I'm wrong, let's move into what you would do here in this case. Yeah. Well, let's just start with this premise. I mean, maybe it's because I have a by crap for growing children is like it's interesting to watch like a human change from a child to an adult body. and there's a lot of differences and growth and where you are in space changes.

So I'm literally getting stepped on like a lot because their feet are bigger or they don't realize they can't just kind of hug you the way they did without knocking you over. It's just kind of an adjustment, right? And so that is semi-gradual. It is kind of fast and terrible for most people. But we've all done it once in that form.

And then we all have done various changing through our lives. So for those who've been pregnant and not, like, that is a absolute trip to see yourself suddenly. Like, it's like alien. I mean, that is where that movie comes from. Some pregnant lady went, do you know what this is like? That's what that shows. So, like, that kind of thing. Like, it's very common in our lives to have various stages and changing.

Now, with very quick weight loss and the type of thing, we're dealing with now, it's just like ramped up to a 10 versus maybe a little more gradual for other folks. But I want to start with this premise that everybody has a bit of body dysmorphia, and I will show you how. So I want you to think about seeing yourself in the mirror and then seeing a picture of yourself. You look different, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Which do you guys prefer? Do you like your mirror of yourself or your pictures? No, the picture. Oh, I prefer the mirror self. Oh, that's interesting.

I prefer the picture because usually a picture is the one that reminds me. Like, I'll look at myself in the mirror and go, you disgusting monster, right? And then someone will have taken a snap to photo of me in Vegas or, you know, just something I hadn't even seen before. And I'll look at it and go, oh, we're looking pretty good. Look all right right there. That's not bad. So I don't know what the difference is for me. Unless they take a picture from chin up, you know, like from below you.

Yeah, yeah. No, like even if they do, if it's a full body shot, even better because I have. I have an idea that I just look like a slubby turd right now, but often I'll see a photo and go, you know what, I'd look fine, you know? So for whatever reason, those are, those are my preferred balances to see it, see it in a photo rather than a, I mean, I'm not talking about like a chin, a camera down here selfie where I'm looking like double chin McGee, but like, you know, just a snapshot of me hanging out or screwing around with the kids or whatever.

I can adjust myself, like, suck in my gut or do. whatever, and be like, all right, there we go. I'm looking good. Whereas the photo, that thing is locked. There is no changing of that is what I looked like at that moment from that angle. Right. And it's a permanent record. It's a permanent record. Exactly. Yeah. As soon as I leave, guess what, that mirror is empty. Yeah. Right. So right there is the evidence, I mean, that everyone can relate to a little bit, right? Like, you have a preference between one of those two self-reflected views of yourself, right? And what that means is, I mean, okay, now imagine back in the day when there was just those lead mirrors that were really heavy and splutchy. I mean,

what did you think you look like? I don't, we just didn't have that constant reminder and that feedback loop, right? So this really is new since, you know, we could look at ourselves in particular ways, you know, as a species. And so, you know, parts of our brains have developed around this experience of seeing ourselves, which is hilarious on one hand because we now know exactly what we look like in multiple ways at any point, and we can zoom in if we want. But we're all still really crappy at seeing actually how we are in the world. Right, because that part of our brain is not, you know, that feedback loop isn't as strong, right? People aren't sitting down and going, okay, let me tell you how you're coming across all day.

or let me hold up a mirror to you psycho emotionally see how you handle that. Most of us do not do well at all, right? Sure. But this is this piece of us that we're not even thinking about, right? Like maybe I'm taking this more deep than people ever need to. But this idea that we are catching glimpses of ourselves and sometimes staring very hard at ourselves and having all sorts of dialogue in our head. Like, you're, to quote you, I'm a what monster when you look in the mirror?

What do you say? I forgot what I said. It's literally something, right? Golchin McGee. Yeah, you have a few ways to demean yourself when you are thinking about how you look, right? Yeah. And very, this is very common. And that's because we're staring at it, right?

That before you would just be like, well, I don't know what it looks like, I guess. I don't know. I like to pretend it's that's 1500s and none of us have seen ourselves. But anyway. Yeah. Okay. So we all have a little bit of this. Now, going to the email, now add this, well, the feeling like yourself piece to this, right? So Scott, I assume your sort of like early years is how you still think you should look or feel maybe. Even if we take away the look part and just get to the feel in your own body as you age, as you gain or lose weight, like it messes with a bit of what it's, supposed to feel like in my own body. Yeah, for full disclosure, that was like junior high, or prior, just prior to that. Like, let's say prior to puberty, yeah, everything's great.

You know, you're 10, you're 11, you don't care. You just don't care. It's like no big deal. But ever since then, because I can go back to just about any era and say, oh, I hated how I looked when I was in high school. Hated how I looked when I was in my 20s. Hated how I looked at my 30s. Like, I can always say that.

But then when I go look at pictures from those times, I look fine. I'd look great. I'd take it back if I could. And that's the whole point of the whole dysmorphia thing has this element of negativity. No one ever says, I see myself as a giant Adonis man. Who does that? I'm sure somebody does out there. The rock looks in the mirror and says,

mirrors, photographs, I'll take all of them. Yeah, probably. Wink. Wink. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he may be. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who have that experience, but I would say the vast majority of us do not.

And not even, and some of it is that sort of over, well, okay, first of all, the key here is what is your brain doing? It's not your body. Because how come every time, every stage, you don't like? And then retroactively, you like it. Like, they're clearly the common denominator in why this isn't making sense is what your brain is saying, right? What is it telling you?

What is, and we could call it your inner critic. We could call it someone else's voice sometimes, right? But just like, what is actually happening and why can get interesting. So that's what I would recommend this person think about. So clearly they're recognizing for themselves, taking pictures of the changes feels important to them. Yeah. Right. I am very different.

I would not do that. that is not appealing to me whatsoever. But I also don't know. Maybe it would be. It might be, right? I mean, just the boudoir level is like, you'd have to pay me $20 million to take pictures of my results. Kudos to the person who wrote in for, you know, doing boudoir photos and a very

vulnerable point in their transformation. Absolutely. Absolutely. And maybe there's instead of just like a photo shoot, there needs to be this other degree of this to get, you know, honor it or something, right? So like, you're right, kudos, absolutely. So everyone's going to be different with this. But if it sounds like they figured out a thing that's going to feel good, but they are also struggling with, you know, wanting to make sure they're doing various things that make this transition, I would assume, more permanent, right, with all of this effort and work

and surgeries. Like, none of this is pain-free, right? This is all very, very difficult. And so some of it, you know, and I'm not comparing it to cancer. Don't get me wrong, everyone, but just this idea of like any documentation of, you know, writing in a journal about difficult things you're going through, taking photos of yourself as you are, you know, a variety of things. I mean, this is a very human response to capture the depth of this for this person. So that's a big piece of this. And we don't have the answers to these questions I'm about to ask, which is, you know, what does this mean um what when will you what is it you're trying to feel right right like not recognizing yourself is this is just one measurement of not recognizing yourself right is there more

and that would be the thing i'd get curious about so the world responds differently to people in different sized bodies it just does people are biased and people act certain ways you know that that is a known fact. So as the world responds to you differently, that's going to affect some of your psychology. And it happens in every direction, right? It happens with aging. It happens with being too young. We have, we're having different experiences. And so to get really curious about, not only do I not sort of see myself looking the way I'm supposed to feel, like, is there more to that psychology for you? Like, how are you changing internally? What is, you know, because we do put a lot of emphasis on the outside, you know? Right. Right. And that's because we see it, right? Yeah, because that's our, the one sense that humans are, well, we think we're really good at is seeing it. And we think we're good at judging what we see. And we're actually terrible. We're very dominant in seeing. Seeing as one of our, you know, most prized perceptions. I think, I think the other thing, too, is it the portrait of Dorian Gray. Am I thinking of the right story? Oh. The more. The painting agent.

but he doesn't, yeah, he doesn't, but it shows the true hymn, you know, kind of that idea of like, I think that over-emphasis on outward appearance and looks can have, it's to our internal world's detriment a little bit, right, like to our internal improvement. And so, yeah, I would just challenge the person to think, I mean, obviously, kudos and good luck and, you know, document what you need to and do what feels good as you adjust. But also, maybe spend a little time on um maybe what you need to grieve uh i think we talk about this a lot with with grief it it's often seems to be associated with negative things or bad things happening or loss the the way you would think oh this person should be sad about this but sometimes this loss is positive like you had a positive thing happen and a change um and so to to be kind to yourself about that you may not feel all the things you thought you'd feel once you were thin and all the skin was removed, right? Because we do emphasize in our culture in particular that happiness, health, everything

is based on size and looks, right? And we can all say, yeah, no, that's not what, well, that's what a lot of us are doing, right? Let's just be honest about it. Because that's a human, that is our way to tell. If we want smell, like, you smell healthy. You know, we'd spend a lot more time on making sure we smelled good. It's a dog's dear.

They kind of can tell. It's a lot easier to tell when somebody smells unhealthy than when they smell healthy. It's not our first pick. We don't go around sniffing people, but if we did, you know, we would spend more time making sure we smelled good or if the touch of our skin needed to be, you know, like, but we really emphasize visual. And so all of us have our own garbage when it comes to this, right? And a great way to sort of check your own garbage might be, you know, what are the thoughts

that you have as you interact with the world based on what other people look like or their size or some stage that they are in life, right? And if you're really critical of others, you're usually... Oh, no. Do we lose you? Sunspot. Sunspot. uh-oh i bet you got a call you know how that happens oh yes right it's the worst i always have to

put on the the full-on turn everything off but this thing yeah or else i get that too all the time yeah uh we'll wait for here you you heard my ring uh doorbell let me know that FedEx has a package which i was i had on because i was like oh they're going to need me to sign for it they left it without me signing for it so that's good oh okay well that's good what were you expecting something It's a laptop for my redeployment gig. Oh, all right. Yeah, so I probably... Getting my steam deck tomorrow.

I'm so excited. Getting your wet tomorrow? My steam deck. Oh, nice, yeah. Yeah. Boy, how are we going to do a couch party with you, you know, playing the steam deck while you're trying to watch the edge of tomorrow? Well, I don't think it gets here until, like, night time or something.

So I got to wait for it. I'm going to ring her again. Let's see if we can get this worked out. I don't know. I'm going to grab that box off the porch. Yeah, you go ahead and do that. I'm going to pause things here. Oh, we got an electric blonde mower.

Oh, it just does it for you? Yeah, no, you have to go out and do it. It's still like a push mower, like a normal standard mower, but it's all electric, so it's all charged. You've got batteries on this thing. It's like having a little Tesla mower, kind of, without Elon Musk having anything to do with it. It's pretty great.

Nice. Yeah. I feel like we're, you know, I don't feel like we're complete eco, you know the eco lords of the street or anything but you know we're out there with electricity getting it done it's not bad good job all right so when you've seen the sorry go ahead you've seen the ones that do it themselves that's the that's the life oh yeah that's what i really ultimately that's what i want but don't sound expensive anyway um Wendy's back sorry you were saying I don't remember where you left off do you no I don't remember at all I we then I brought up a

lawnmower which made everybody forget everything again so much happened between then and now yeah it's uh brian got a package i talked about lawnmowers uh i am i don't know body dysmorphia yeah you're you know i'll just get back to my advice how about that i'll just like make something um okay all right so i'd ask a couple questions who are you talking to about this right like do you have, and whether it's even a person or a designated time for you to think about that, I think it can be powerful. This can be applied to lots of people in lots of situations. When you're going through something, do you have dedicated space and time to deal with it?

And I would answer for most of it's probably no, right? We shove it down. It leaks out. You know, we're just sort of managing that as opposed to, you know, giving some of this attention. So I would ask that question, you know, what do you got in place in terms of support? Somebody who's been there before you. Just when we were in Sweden, we have some good friends. He had gastric bypass and lost a ton of weight.

And he, I mean, I've known him for years, you know, going on eight years, and I've never seen him so happy and not grumpy. And, you know, I'm asking him about him. like, is this just because you lost the weight? And he goes, it's because I don't fight myself anymore of this isn't me and keep trying to play soccer and get hurt or, you know, like, you know, he just described that he felt like himself for the first time. And, you know, he looks like he did when he was 25. And so, I mean, and that's not what all of us are going to do.

We're going to have to adjust to the, we don't get to go back to our 25-year-old bodies, but can we, you know, how do we grieve what we need to grieve and how do we get support as we go through whatever it is? And so this person is clearly going through lots of medical parts of this too. And whenever we have to do that, we also need support and we also need to know we're not alone and that type of thing. So I'd really check with them on that, you know, just what's their support system look like? What else, what else emotionally, psychologically do they need to feel supported and that they can have good and bad days with this. And then, you know, recognizing that when all is said and done, I mean, I'm talking to my

friend while we're on vacation. So, you know, what's it like on a Tuesday when real life is still there? You know, because not everything is how you look or how you feel in your body or how you think you look or whatever. So, yeah, it's really a balance. And the truth is we're all in the same exact boat. We just may not realize it and it may not be as dramatic. but just how are we you know living life connecting to what our emotional needs are as as we change as we age as we whatever that makes sense yeah totally um i one thing i was thinking of the other day i followed this guy in tech talk who went from 450 down to i think 180 like just this amazing transformation and he's documented the whole thing on on three years straight

or whatever, how long it's been on his TikTok videos. So every video is an update and a comparison and here's what he's doing and what diet and what workout and all that. So it's an inspiring, interesting thing to watch. One thing that got really interesting, though, is when he lost or got to the point where he lost most of that weight, there was a whole session where he's in front of a mirror looking at all of the skin that is just loose now because, you know, that's what happens. So it's just gobs of it, like everywhere.

and him trying to, you know, make a decision about what to do, do I handle it medically? Do I just live with it? Do I, you know, because it's, what's actually worse being in his mind, being an overweight guy at the pool or being a guy who's in shape and feeling great, but has all this skin dragon behind him. And it, to me, that was like this lesson of, it doesn't even matter how hard you go. You're still, you know, you're still going to have something that you're going to have to think about. In this case, it's a extra skin and other people it might be I've never liked my nose or it's my left ears higher than the right one or or whatever we're so weird this way aren't we as people like I don't think dogs do this they smell each other's butts and move on well does my what have you be eating yeah they don't know they as far as I know they don't know I can't tell but I don't think they have a vanity problem we have and in fact I think we're the only ones in the in the animal kingdom that do I think there's probably some monkey somewhere that's like I I'm not groomed.

I'm not going out. Or who knows? I don't know. Right. But it's fascinating to me. So I hope this person... Well, I mean, bringing up animals is an interesting addendum, right? Which is like, what's instinctual, what's survival, what's necessary?

You know, do you think dogs know how cute they are? No, but they do know that if they tilt their heads and they put their ears this certain way, and this is breeded into them, that they get fed by humans, right? They get a reaction. They get love and attention and all this. Totally. And that is, we are no different from this. And so when we look in the mirror and we see something we don't like, we're just,

we amplify those things because it might mean, I mean, maybe this is too reductionistic, but it might not mean being loved or lovable or that people won't like me because that's what happens sometimes. This isn't just, you know, based on nothing, but it's also, I think the parts of us that obsess about these things and get, you know, really critical are really about just trying to get us to improve so that we get stuff we need to survive and thrive, right? So we're all my case that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's bit the bottom line. I'm trying to do this more. It's funny this came up when it did because I've been trying to just like not care. It's like, who cares?

Like, why do I care? Like I care about being healthy and healthier and, you know, these things matter. But I really need to worry about like if I've looked at it. in the mirror and go, oh, you're getting older. Yeah, of course you freaking are, you dumbass. You're getting older. We all are. Everybody is. How is it supposed to work otherwise. Yeah, exactly. My friend has a great idea. She's like, this is why you got to have friends that are good seven to ten years older than you. So by comparison, you're looking good, right? Like, you just, it's all relative and, you know, and I think what's kind of nice is that as you get older, some of this maturity will come

and recognizing, like, acceptance of oneself and, like, what really matters. And that may mean looking less in the mirror. Yeah. You know, this is why you stop grooming and you get crazy hairs coming out of your ears and stuff. Stop looking. No, you're right. But also just, like, you know, I don't know, when people go, ah, whatever old man or old lady, like when they get a little bit ages and some 20-year-old, you know,

and you look at them and just think, I know I was like you. when I was your age a little bit. But you do know that you're also aging. And you're aging at the same rate I am, literally the same rate I am. And also, if you don't, that either means you're going to die young or you're going to get which one do you want? How do you want? Like, it's to me, I don't know why that logic didn't click when I was 20.

I also was like. And it won't click for them. And that's, it's like a built-in mechanism. Like it doesn't get tripped until I think you. sleep funny and you wake up in a lot of pain. And you're like, wait a minute. Like, you have to have a couple of the, those old moments. Like, I had, I'd hurt my ankle and I ran across the streets kind of shuffled slowly to

hurry for a light. And Adam goes, it started. I'm like, what? He's like, you know, the old lady careful shuffle. And so you should see me now. I'm like, I will not care and I will just run across streets. And I'm just, but the truth is, I don't want to get hurt again. And so this is why you start to shuffle or you're just more careful.

And then you think, okay, let's see, who, what, grandma Moses, who can I be that's, like, old and just does whatever they want and is amazing. Like, you have to get relative and figure out who you want to be, like, not who you're comparing yourself to anymore, you know, in the opposite direction of you can't do it. Anyway, so I, let's say just one quick last thing about this emailer, like, first. of all it's it's an amazing thing for anyone to change yeah right like that is the older i get the more i am amazed anyone has ever changed like it is it is a miracle and a phenomenon and so to whatever they have done to change to get healthier and i don't mean lose weight i mean whatever it meant to be healthier and it sounds like they still have work to be mentally healthy about all these changes, right?

Like we all have this same work ahead of us. But just keep going and build your support team around you and learn to love what you have. And that's kind of the cool part about the photo shoot and some other things is it's an attempt to do that, right? It's an attempt to love where you're at. Because when you love where you're at, it means you can be any shape or size or get all the things.

I mean, have you guys seen the plastic surgery surgery situations. Oh, man. There is no self-love left. It's like you've changed everything to what you might like, but that's not, it's not about the outside stuff. And that's what's, that's the easiest to change, right? Right.

So congratulations to them and hang in there. And, you know, as you figure all this out, like we're all in the same boat, just slightly different shaped boats. Yeah. Size boats, small unpainted boats, whatever. right but but it's a it's part of this rapid journey we call living what if i had uh okay is this a weird idea i if i had all this skin removed i would freeze chunks of it and send it to my relatives as a joke this is a joke that say hey a little piece of me you know and i have

near you all the time you get in the mail i'll give you the skin off my back so scott you know how you and i are like yeah you just did it you just did it you made it weird You made it kind of worse and you made it gross. Yeah. I have this problem and people really struggle when they're like, oh, they think I'm all professional and I'll suddenly just make something a thousand times more disturbing. And they're like, what just happened? I'm like, oh, this genetic, I don't know how.

But yeah, you and I have that. Yeah, I've done it. I've done it. That was my goal. I did it today. Yeah, way to go. Way to be yourself. Well, it's always good to talk to you.

Of course, anything you want to mention or promote before we, for we. Yeah, four we go. No, but soon. I mean, we'll start real steps in the fall. We'll talk more about it as it gets closer. But at the moment, I'd just like to get through the next couple months alive. Yeah, that'd be great. I would love that.

That'd be awesome. Summer, kids. Yeah. BA5. It's all going great. Oh, yeah. That thing needs to slow its role. The new stupid variant that's getting everybody.

Oh, okay. Even if you just had a... It's set up a residency in Vegas. I can't wait to go see it when I. There's a guy up our street who got it. The prior or whatever variant got it, got pretty sick. And now has this only three weeks after he got the other one. And so the marker on this one is that it's very, very contagious and jumps through all your protective hoops, but is less overall in the end severe.

So like, you know, you might get sick again and be irritated and whatever, but it's likely not going to put you in the hospital. is quick. At least that's the general idea, but it's a big, it's a big turd that thing. Yeah. So breathe in, breathe out. By yourself in a corner. Real quick, did I tell you, I told you we had COVID, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm sorry. You told me like while you were almost done with it and you were like having a horrible time and you never told us. Yeah. Yeah, because that's my style. But what happened, this is so funny because my neighbor reminded me this. I, it really does damage your brain. I swear, I can't remember things. And I'm like, ah, that happened. Okay, no lie. This happened. There was a raccoon and a, and a baby on our roof.

Like, they got scared in this tornadoy storm and hid behind our chimney. And she gave birth there, which is terrifying. Well, Tommy, our sweet dog, who is meant to do one thing in life, and that is to hunt things. Yeah. It's a big. He was losing his mind and kept staring at the roof and being crazy. Yeah. So we all are like COVID-brained stupid. So we decide to put Tommy on the roof. This is what Motley Crew did for a while.

Yeah, keep going. So he could see that there was nothing going on and it would stop him from freaking out. Because we thought he just saw something climb up there and then he saw, he didn't see it leave and he will not stop until, I mean, he just was whining and whining. So here we are. Adam's up there on the roof with the dog and a bunch of kids. And I'm just taking pictures. because I think it's funny.

And then all of a sudden, there is a raccoon protecting her baby. And so then the dog's like, oh, there's a supply of raccoons on the room. I will never stop whining. Oh, my gosh. So my neighbor comes over the other day and she's like, I mean, I know you guys were pretty sick, but like, what's that? You got your dog on the room? Bad decisions. Do not make decisions while on COVID.

That is the goal. No, that's good advice. I think you're I think you're it's good advice to follow there's a lot of things you are yeah well Wendy we hope you have a fantastic week between then and now and next week we'll pick up this mic again and talk one more time sounds good okay bye bye bye bye bye I got to mark that it was a nice bye bye bye bye bye it was fun I could use that all right Brian look here's the deal yeah yeah what's the deal the deal is oh yeah here's the deal oh yeah here's the deal We're at the part of the show where we're almost done.

Now, before we get out of here, we've got a quick email. I'd like to read. This is a theme for it. Send and receive email. This is from Kristen and, uh, or Kristen. Yeah, Kristen. Stone Mountain, uh, Georgia. This might be near Amy, I'm not sure.

Mm-hmm. Says them, so. Yeah, there you go. It says them salt guns. Uh, hey, bug, uh, and salt. I like that. Nice. Like bug of salt.

My husband has one of these salt guns that you were talking. talking about and he loves it he's a hit at the cul-de-sac's barbecues where he keeps the flies away and the kids have a great time shooting as well one downside all of the food gets really salty but you know still fun shoot a fly though Kristen so wait do you get like but they get like fly guts in your food that's what i'm wondering like are you shooting the flies above the the barbecue above the food this doesn't sound good at all guessing i'm guessing not just uh i'm guessing it was a little joke but I would hope so. No, I really want to get one of those.

It's like, okay, confirmed. They're a lot of fun. I want one, too. If fly season's already kicking in here and it usually is later, I mean, I could do it now and have a blast. I might do it. I might do it. Also, hey. Race hardware, baby, right there in the checkout line, right before you, like your last

impulse purchase, along with Pearson's salted nut rolls is the bug assault gun. Is it a brand I should look for, the bug of salt brand? Yeah, it is the brand. is the bug assault. Oh, it's called bug assault. Okay. Bug assault. I may actually do it.

I don't know. It's 45 bucks, but why not? A quick note about what kind of programming you can expect over the weekend. Tomorrow, our Patreon couch party, 3 p.m. Mountain Time. 3 p.m. for patrons. Now, here's the thing. I'm going to, with Monica today, her and I are going to work out a step by step to make sure everybody who's a patron knows how to get in if they want to get in. It's going to be real simple.

I'll do a post up there for Patreon. only on the Patreon so I want to make sure to check the Patreon out if you're not getting notifications via email or something or you have all that turned off you may I don't know but that's where we'll be putting it any questions Monica's said that she'd be happy to help people with how this works it's super easy you just have to know the two three steps to do it that'll get you in it does mean you have to have a discord and be on it so for those who are like I don't do discord well I don't know what to tell you that may not work for you but there will be I am going to like I said I'm going to capture this whole

thing after the fact or you know post it somewhere somewhere private uh because anywhere else would get us in trouble but anyway that's the plan uh tomorrow 3 p.m mountain time looking forward to it be there or be square uh core tonight at 5 p.m. uh mountain time course coverville and brian mentioned that 1 p.m today that's right and uh film sac Saturday with the quick and the dead quick and the dead i watched it last night because i have d and d tonight and i don't know what's happening tomorrow night so I had to watch it last night. Movies good, right?

I can't wait to hear. How long has it been since you've seen it? Probably 10 years. Okay. Yeah. I like it. It's all I'm going to say about that prior to film site because I have some stuff to say along with that. But, boy, is it not the movie that I remember seeing in theaters in the 90s when it came out.

Interesting. Oh, yeah, that's right. You were one of the ones that had seen it before, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. There's some interesting Sam Ramey-ish choices made. That is for sure. We'll see.

It's been a bit. So I will definitely be watching that. And we'll be talking all about that on Saturday. So watch for that as well. All righty then. Quick Patreon note. Patreon.com slash TMS is where you can join us. You can be part of that couch party tomorrow if you want.

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It's at frogpants.com slash TMS. Brian, let's play a song and get out of here. Okay, fine. Well, she's in the chat room today. It's September, a.k.a. 9 of 12, she wrote and said, my eldest son's father passed away. He introduced me to 9-inch nails, Dead Can Dance, and several others back when we were in college.

So she's a dedication going out to her son's father as well as, I believe, her son, right? You mentioned in our chat on Discord September that this is also dedicated to your son. thankfully she gave me two choices the first one a little tough to find a perfect cover of it but the second one not only can i do i have lots of covers of it i have lots of great covers of this was a hard one to choose from because they were so many different options but this one i think is is one of the best the song is the smith's how soon is now i am the sun and the earth um this is uh uh mike viola's version of it and he's got a very appropriate name because this version is super duper string heavy which sounds amazing with this song from his album lonely boy from 2012 here's mike viola and how soon is now see some of you this weekend the rest of you on monday have a fantastic weekend

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a lot of I'm There's a club if you'd like to go, you could meet somebody who really loves you. So you go and you stand on your own and you leave on your own. want to die When you say it's going to happen now, what exactly do you mean? See, I've already waited too long.

and all my hope is gone You shut your mouth. How can you say? I go about things the wrong way. I am human and I need to be love. I need to be loved. just like everybody else does This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com.