The Morning Stream - TMS 2329: Uber Duber Stuber
Episode Date: August 4, 2022Her Dog Is Appropriate. Lady Fart or Dog Fart? The Shortest Skirt in Alabama. The Retiree Look. Whoville Poodley Noodles. Gobbing my way to the top. Little Skeletor Girl. That outfit is to die for! th...e fockers are a growing concern. The last Deniro and Hoohah. Creeper Sunglasses. Soccer Hooligan Gobbing. Try To Keep It Down. I will date you, He-Man. Wet and Grosse in Georgia with Amy. Thera-Pee Thursday With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                        Coming up on TMS, her dog is appropriate.
                                         
                                        Lady fart or dog fart.
                                         
                                        The shortest skirt in Alabama.
                                         
                                        The retiree look.
                                         
                                        Whoville poodley noodles.
                                         
                                        Gobbing my way to the top.
                                         
                                        Little Skeletor girl.
                                         
                                        That outfit is to die for.
                                         
    
                                        The fuckers are a growing concern.
                                         
                                        The last De Niro and hoo-ha.
                                         
                                        Creeper sunglasses.
                                         
                                        Soccer hooligan gobbing.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Try to keep it down.
                                         
                                        I will date you, he man.
                                         
                                        Wet and gross in Georgia with Amy.
                                         
    
                                        Therapy Thursday with Wendy and more on this.
                                         
                                        episode of The Morning Stream.
                                         
                                        We ran into trouble.
                                         
                                        Batman was there, and I know all about it.
                                         
                                        He didn't get all the diamonds.
                                         
                                        No, sir.
                                         
                                        Our next job will be better planned.
                                         
                                        A shipment of industrial diamonds is leaving the Gotham City airport tomorrow morning.
                                         
    
                                        I'm going to get those diamonds, and no one's going to stop me.
                                         
                                        Not even Batman.
                                         
                                        I shall publicly defy him.
                                         
                                        A hundred and five years, and he still doesn't know my name.
                                         
                                        The morning stream. I'm your boyfriend now, Nancy.
                                         
                                        Hello and welcome to TMS.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        Thursday, August 4th, 2022 is the date.
                                         
    
                                        I'm Scott Johnson, and my other date is Brian Abbott.
                                         
                                        Hi, Brian.
                                         
                                        Wow, it's like a sitcom where you've,
                                         
                                        got two dates and you've got to go back and forth between them at the same Italian restaurant
                                         
                                        pretend you're hungry and that you have to keep going to the bathroom and that uh how long can
                                         
                                        you keep this up scott with your two dates not much longer it's it's of all falling apart soon
                                         
                                        uh real quick i notice here visually you and i look like a couple of retirees today
                                         
                                        i don't know how we do i got this short sleeve looking hawai or not hawai florida vacation looking
                                         
    
                                        shirt right you do yeah i've totally got the friends all vacations up looking the beach bum i mean we are
                                         
                                        Crockett and Tubbs in their 70s is what we are right now.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's a show I'd watch.
                                         
                                        What's Michael Mann doing?
                                         
                                        Get in there.
                                         
                                        Get that done.
                                         
                                        He's making a heat sequel.
                                         
                                        That's what he's done.
                                         
    
                                        He's busy.
                                         
                                        Pretty excited about that.
                                         
                                        I think that means De Niro.
                                         
                                        I'll bet you money.
                                         
                                        Here's my bet right now to say it early because I think I'm going to be right.
                                         
                                        This will be the last time De Niro and Hujah.
                                         
                                        Puccino.
                                         
                                        I couldn't think of his name.
                                         
    
                                        Huah.
                                         
                                        Hooah.
                                         
                                        It's the last time they'll work together.
                                         
                                        on screen. I'll betcha. Bet you money. If they're in it, I don't even know. I don't even know
                                         
                                        if they're in it. If they're in it, it'll probably be the last time they work together,
                                         
                                        because I don't see Pacino stepping in on any of the, uh, meet the Fokker's sequels or anything.
                                         
                                        Are they still making those? I don't think they're still making those. I think that thing
                                         
                                        has totally run its course. A growing concern, the Fokker's series. The Fokker's series. The Fokker's
                                         
    
                                        cinematic universe. Yeah. I just hope it never ends. All right.
                                         
                                        I had an experience I would like to share.
                                         
                                        As you know, my dog's been a little messed up.
                                         
                                        She had some kind of weird thing in her back or her.
                                         
                                        Poor Rainer.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        It sucks.
                                         
                                        The advice around vet circles is she's probably going to be fine.
                                         
    
                                        Don't worry about bringing her in yet.
                                         
                                        Just let her rest.
                                         
                                        And that's what she's doing.
                                         
                                        She is eating, but I have to take food to her for her to eat.
                                         
                                        She won't go to it.
                                         
                                        And she's drinking and stuff.
                                         
                                        So she's fine in that regard.
                                         
                                        But you know how these animals do?
                                         
    
                                        they tend to like want to go hide somewhere and
                                         
                                        not be around other people or other dogs and she's kind of doing a bit of that
                                         
                                        so we're just trying to you know be there for whatever all that stuff
                                         
                                        but i thought one thing that would be good for yesterday is i'd take her for a mini walk
                                         
                                        nothing too crazy or strenuous because she loves her walks and sure enough it did seem good for
                                         
                                        it loosened her up a bit okay not her not her normal energetic can't wait to
                                         
                                        bark at other dogs freak out thing very slow very methodic whatever but she did it so we're
                                         
                                        out there and at one point i'm sitting on a bench and
                                         
    
                                        letting her kind of rest in the grass.
                                         
                                        And we're just sitting there.
                                         
                                        And a lady is walking her dog,
                                         
                                        some sort of fluffy-looking little poodle-y unit.
                                         
                                        I don't know what this is.
                                         
                                        Okay. All right.
                                         
                                        I don't know what the name of this dog is.
                                         
                                        Small toy poodle?
                                         
    
                                        Probably.
                                         
                                        Or one of those big weird-looking poodles.
                                         
                                        Which I actually prefer.
                                         
                                        I actually prefer the big weird-looking poodles as opposed to the little tiny toy poodles.
                                         
                                        They are weird.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Just the way that they sometimes are groomed that makes them look like,
                                         
                                        a, you know, a Dr. Seuss character.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's a good point.
                                         
                                        It looks like Whoville people if you cut their hair right.
                                         
                                        Anyway, this was a bit like that, but kind of medium size, not too big.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        And they come walking by and I hear as she passes, we're kind of close proximity.
                                         
                                        The walk thing is right there and I'm on this bench right in front of it.
                                         
                                        And Rainer is not getting excited or freaking out about this dog at all.
                                         
                                        She's just, you know, when she's in this mode of in pain, she doesn't
                                         
    
                                        care about any of that.
                                         
                                        So she's not getting up or barking or sniffing or doing any of that.
                                         
                                        And the other dog seems nonchalant.
                                         
                                        So they walk by without much incident, except as they walk by, I hear a little bit of
                                         
                                        right then, you know.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        And so I come from the lady or the dog.
                                         
                                        Well, see, that's, that was my initial thought.
                                         
    
                                        Who is this, who did this emanate from?
                                         
                                        And I'm pretty sure it was the lady.
                                         
                                        And the only reason I think this is after I hear the,
                                         
                                        I glance up.
                                         
                                        I'm wearing sunglasses.
                                         
                                        I'm not super, you know.
                                         
                                        It's not obvious where your eyes are going.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
    
                                        Always wear those in public so you can be a creeper, you know.
                                         
                                        That's the deal.
                                         
                                        Anyway, I see her smile after the two.
                                         
                                        Like a, ah, what a relief or I busted kind of smile.
                                         
                                        It was kind of a weird grin of the, or, oh, my dog farted in front of another person again.
                                         
                                        It could have been that.
                                         
                                        Could have been that.
                                         
                                        Yes, exactly.
                                         
    
                                        So jury's out.
                                         
                                        They're deliberating.
                                         
                                        Don't know what they're going to come back with.
                                         
                                        Pretty sure it was a lady fart and not a dog fart.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's fantastic.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was great.
                                         
                                        And it was a silent exchange, by the way.
                                         
                                        Otherwise, completely quiet.
                                         
    
                                        Like, no, like birds chirping.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        She didn't say anything.
                                         
                                        There's dogs are quiet.
                                         
                                        I didn't say anything.
                                         
                                        Just a little hurt.
                                         
                                        And then on her way, you know.
                                         
                                        And it was fine.
                                         
    
                                        Look.
                                         
                                        Look, you got to let them go.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And walk is probably the best way to move them down.
                                         
                                        the line to escape too like you know you get out there and walk and it's like you know it's it's the
                                         
                                        the great liberator is what it is it really is and you're outdoors you're not confined anywhere it's not
                                         
                                        like you're in it you know elevator or some shit like that yeah I always feel weird like if I go
                                         
                                        into a public bathroom and um I'm peeing I feel weird if I fart but I'm in a freaking
                                         
    
                                        bathroom right like isn't this where I'm supposed to do it yeah and for some reason
                                         
                                        and it's a good, it's a good physiological time to let that go.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        In a public bathroom, like an airport or something, or a movie, let's say a movie theater has just ended.
                                         
                                        The movie's ended and everybody rushes to the bathrooms and are all using the stalls and you're in there.
                                         
                                        And you don't want to do that in there with all those people in there.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, exactly.
                                         
                                        Because, you know, there's people around and it's less about the noise.
                                         
    
                                        I just don't want to offend.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        This is my problem, yeah.
                                         
                                        My understanding is the British like to go ahead and let that rip, but they also like
                                         
                                        to hork up big
                                         
                                        lugies
                                         
                                        and spit them
                                         
                                        in the toilet
                                         
    
                                        while they're there.
                                         
                                        The British do?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I hear this about the,
                                         
                                        and they call it
                                         
                                        gobbing.
                                         
                                        Zoe,
                                         
                                        if you're in the chat,
                                         
    
                                        tell us more
                                         
                                        because is this true
                                         
                                        and also you're a lady
                                         
                                        so maybe you never see
                                         
                                        gross men do this,
                                         
                                        but every time
                                         
                                        I've ever heard about this,
                                         
                                        it's always British people,
                                         
    
                                        gobbing,
                                         
                                        farting,
                                         
                                        yeah, all the time.
                                         
                                        I see him do it in the best
                                         
                                        like Americans
                                         
                                        doing it all the time.
                                         
                                        Could be.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Could be.
                                         
                                        Maybe it's universal.
                                         
                                        It's restricted just to the UK,
                                         
                                        but uh maybe it originated there though you know maybe maybe i got these soccer hooligan types
                                         
                                        you know they're like oh i'm just going to fart gob my way to the top i uh i have a hard time
                                         
                                        believing that that uh isn't something that we sent over there rather than the other way around
                                         
                                        it's possible i always i always like to think that the um the worst of public behavior
                                         
                                        does have a a starting point but it's always impossible to know where like yeah right
                                         
    
                                        Do we blame a modern society?
                                         
                                        Did it come from something?
                                         
                                        Have they always been there?
                                         
                                        Was there always a caveman?
                                         
                                        He was off in the corner going,
                                         
                                        eating his own buggers.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I mean, there's the eastern part of Ravada.
                                         
    
                                        Hocken up a Lugie is part of normal conversation.
                                         
                                        Like, it is a, it is just a thing that, that,
                                         
                                        that, uh, some people do.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        As teenagers,
                                         
                                        just on the regular.
                                         
                                        I had friends who spit, it would do it all the time.
                                         
                                        All the freaking time.
                                         
    
                                        That's, they felt like their whole existence.
                                         
                                        I don't like it either.
                                         
                                        I'm not a fan at all.
                                         
                                        But those people, they acted like it was their job
                                         
                                        to produce giant gobs of gross
                                         
                                        and spit it on the sidewalk.
                                         
                                        Especially when they, like, the part one is the,
                                         
                                        you know, like, the, like,
                                         
    
                                        listening the, the, the snot in the back of the throat
                                         
                                        to make sure you can hark it.
                                         
                                        Good morning, everybody.
                                         
                                        I hope you're enjoying your lucky charms.
                                         
                                        Yeah, whatever you got there in your bowl,
                                         
                                        try to keep it down.
                                         
                                        Oh, geez.
                                         
                                        Brian, we got an email about your lift.
                                         
    
                                        Please, let's talk about anything else.
                                         
                                        We got a lift email, so I'll play this just for fun.
                                         
                                        Drive at sensible speeds, be courteous, and obey traffic regulations.
                                         
                                        It's also an email.
                                         
                                        Send and receive email.
                                         
                                        Yeah, all those things.
                                         
                                        Bernie Walter wrote in.
                                         
                                        He writes in a lot.
                                         
    
                                        And Bernie says this.
                                         
                                        He says, hey, guys, the other day you were talking about installing cameras on Brian's
                                         
                                        Lyft car.
                                         
                                        I like the idea that you have a lift car as opposed to the other car that is just your car.
                                         
                                        Well, I will say that even though I've got a removable light-up lift sign that I can take off, put in my glove compartment when I'm not driving for a lift, even though we've used it to drive to trivia a couple times this week, I've left that light in there the whole time.
                                         
                                        Oh, sure. Why not? Leave it in.
                                         
                                        By the way, I figured out that next time we go to a concert at Red Rocks, having that light in there, I can go and park in any lot I want, right? Because, like, they see.
                                         
                                        me coming, they move the cones out of the way
                                         
    
                                        so I can go to the upper lot to drop people
                                         
                                        off. So I'm just putting
                                         
                                        T-down in the back seat. When we
                                         
                                        go to Red Rocks, we're going to drive up
                                         
                                        and park in the nice lot, and then I'm going to take the
                                         
                                        little sign out of my car.
                                         
                                        This is like a
                                         
                                        legal way around not getting to use the handicapped
                                         
    
                                        spots, you know? Yes, right.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm certainly not taking
                                         
                                        spots away from somebody who is
                                         
                                        deserving of it and requires
                                         
                                        it, right? Like, I'm definitely not going to park.
                                         
                                        not going to park in a handicapped spot.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        But there are, there's the lot up top where, um, where like the big wigs, um, I don't
                                         
    
                                        maybe employees are up there as well, but, uh, but there's always so many spots up there
                                         
                                        available.
                                         
                                        It's like, oh, I just want one of those.
                                         
                                        Yeah, do that.
                                         
                                        Use your light.
                                         
                                        Get in.
                                         
                                        Stay out or get out.
                                         
                                        Turn the light off.
                                         
    
                                        You're done.
                                         
                                        You're set.
                                         
                                        And then I'll report.
                                         
                                        I'll report about, uh, getting towed because I didn't have some sort of recognizable employee
                                         
                                        sticker or big wig
                                         
                                        hang tag from the rearview mirror
                                         
                                        Yeah, there's probably some doodly thing you've got to hang
                                         
                                        I'll bet
                                         
    
                                        Well, anyway, here's what he says
                                         
                                        You were talking about installing cameras in the car
                                         
                                        If you ever want to see the absolute worst case scenario of that
                                         
                                        There's a movie on Hulu called Spree
                                         
                                        SPR-E
                                         
                                        It stars Joe Curry
                                         
                                        Carrie, Kerry, Kerry, he's spelled it wrong
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm sorry, it is Kiri
                                         
    
                                        It is two E's and then an R and then a Y
                                         
                                        He actually he added an extra E in there
                                         
                                        I don't think they're supposed to do.
                                         
                                        This is the stranger things.
                                         
                                        One of the stranger things, people.
                                         
                                        He's the,
                                         
                                        he's the dude with the great hair.
                                         
                                        The rocker guy?
                                         
    
                                        You know, the,
                                         
                                        not the rocker guy,
                                         
                                        but the,
                                         
                                        um,
                                         
                                        working in the ice cream store.
                                         
                                        I guess you haven't seen the season yet
                                         
                                        where he's working the ice cream store,
                                         
                                        but he's,
                                         
    
                                        um,
                                         
                                        he's Steve.
                                         
                                        He's the,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        good looking guy that dated,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        oh,
                                         
                                        that dated the little skeletor looking girl.
                                         
    
                                        In the season,
                                         
                                        first season,
                                         
                                        or looking girl.
                                         
                                        They were upstairs making out while,
                                         
                                        the girl in the green coat
                                         
                                        and the glass has died in the pool or whatever.
                                         
                                        Oh, Barb died in the upside down.
                                         
                                        It's been a while, as you can tell.
                                         
    
                                        Skeletor, like, oh man, you got to, all right, time for you to go back and watch that.
                                         
                                        No, she's, she's fine.
                                         
                                        She just looks like she's got no muscle tone, just skin.
                                         
                                        She has skin.
                                         
                                        She just has, she does have an extremely strong jawline and a narrow neck.
                                         
                                        So she, it's just like it's pulling really tight, you know, like,
                                         
                                        Yeah. I don't know. Like you just need to breathe out. Let it go is what I'm saying.
                                         
                                        Anyway, he's in this. He's a ride share driver slash wannabe social media star who goes off the deep end.
                                         
    
                                        You'll never look at the actor the same way again, says Bernie. I'll check this out. That sounds interesting.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it looks really good. Brought and Tomatoes gives it a 68% tomato meter, 61% audience score. So a little bit above average. But I feel like I've got to watch this as a ride share driver. I feel like.
                                         
                                        like this is required viewing for me.
                                         
                                        Wasn't there a Kamal Nunjohnie?
                                         
                                        There was.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Him and Dave Batista, I think, was in it.
                                         
                                        Goober or Doober or there was some play on the word Uber.
                                         
    
                                        Wasn't it?
                                         
                                        Dooburg.
                                         
                                        What was that called?
                                         
                                        Stuber.
                                         
                                        Stuber.
                                         
                                        That's what it was.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Stuber.
                                         
    
                                        Memorable, really memorable.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I wonder if that was poop.
                                         
                                        Was that poop?
                                         
                                        Did nobody like that?
                                         
                                        I don't remember if I watched it.
                                         
                                        I'm confusing it with one that he did with,
                                         
                                        oh no, now I'm blanking under name,
                                         
    
                                        Issa Ray that Camille Nanjani did with Issa Ray
                                         
                                        where they were a couple that was on the verge of breaking up
                                         
                                        and then they get carjacked or something like that.
                                         
                                        Oh, that was, what was that called?
                                         
                                        Shoot.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was more recent.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I forgot the name of that.
                                         
                                        Wow, just looking at photos from,
                                         
    
                                        this movie he's got dude's got cameras on every um window like so driver's side window passenger
                                         
                                        side window both pointing at the back one hanging from the rearview mirror he's oh because he's
                                         
                                        because it's because it's the whole social media aspect of this oh okay uh you're not thinking of
                                         
                                        not big sick that's a different movie um not not the big sick which was really really good
                                         
                                        that wasn't awesome was it that was such a good lovebirds
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Oh, Lovebirds.
                                         
                                        Was that it?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Lovebirds.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there it is.
                                         
                                        That's the one.
                                         
                                        Oh, oh, look at them making out.
                                         
                                        All right, I'm turning that off.
                                         
                                        Anyway, thank you, Bernie, for the thing.
                                         
    
                                        I guess that'll give you an idea.
                                         
                                        You'll watch that and go, yeah, I don't want any cameras.
                                         
                                        Or maybe I do want a few cameras.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I mean, I still don't do a whole lot of night driving.
                                         
                                        And I figure that's where you get the, the crazier situations where a dash cam or, you know, in car.
                                         
                                        cam might be a bad idea or a good idea to record some bad stuff that happens in there but um during
                                         
                                        the day when i'm taking i took a dude to walmart yesterday it's like all right dropping you off
                                         
    
                                        walmart yeah did you get a ride back from walmart or just that just too there i imagine he i mean
                                         
                                        he had to get some sort of ride back from walmart because he can't buy a car at walmart you can
                                         
                                        never you can never just sit there and wait though right that's not the deal like a taxi driver sometimes
                                         
                                        i'll be right back out stay here can you do that there's no reason well no i can't right like he can't
                                         
                                        say, because he's
                                         
                                        paid for a ride that is like, starts
                                         
                                        and ends at Walmart. However,
                                         
                                        I've had people who do
                                         
    
                                        a ride to
                                         
                                        work, but they want me to stop at
                                         
                                        7-Eleven so that they can
                                         
                                        buy some smokes, and they build that into
                                         
                                        the ride. So they say,
                                         
                                        this ride
                                         
                                        has a stop. And then you stop and you
                                         
                                        wait for five minutes, and then
                                         
    
                                        technically I could leave
                                         
                                        after five minutes. If they're
                                         
                                        stuck in line in the 7-Eleven, I could just
                                         
                                        ditch them, which would be the most horrible thing ever.
                                         
                                        That would be horrible.
                                         
                                        I wouldn't do that.
                                         
                                        But I've heard horror stories about, you know, people who know it's going to take a long time.
                                         
                                        So they leave their kids in the car because they know you won't drive off with their kids.
                                         
    
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we just need to make a really quick stop at McDonald's so I can pick up my paycheck.
                                         
                                        Do you ever everybody do like a...
                                         
                                        I'm going to leave my kid in the car.
                                         
                                        And then they go in and proceed to eat an entire meal.
                                         
                                        at McDonald's knowing that you're not going to drive off with their kids in the car.
                                         
    
                                        Weird.
                                         
                                        That's weird.
                                         
                                        Do you know, do you ever had, like, a car seat person in your car or no?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, I've never had, like, somebody who brought in a child seat.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Nope.
                                         
                                        Never had anyone surprisingly.
                                         
    
                                        No one's ever done that.
                                         
                                        I wonder if that's a thing.
                                         
                                        I did take a lady with a comfort dog or, you know, a assistant dog.
                                         
                                        What do they call those?
                                         
                                        A working dog.
                                         
                                        Animal, shit.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        She wasn't blind.
                                         
    
                                        It wasn't like a seeing-eye dog.
                                         
                                        Oh, not service dog.
                                         
                                        Then it's a...
                                         
                                        Yeah, it still would be a service.
                                         
                                        I guess if it's a comfort, emotional support dog.
                                         
                                        Emotional support animal, that's it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Emotional support animal.
                                         
    
                                        It's still technically a service dog, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I want one of those.
                                         
                                        They never let you pet him, though.
                                         
                                        There has have signs that say don't pet him.
                                         
                                        And I always want to pet him.
                                         
                                        What's wrong with that?
                                         
                                        That's a natural...
                                         
    
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        What's wrong with me telling him he's a good dog and he's the best good dog ever?
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're a good dog.
                                         
                                        Pet, pet, pet.
                                         
                                        What's wrong with that?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't get that.
                                         
                                        O'Cler says emotional support animals aren't service dogs.
                                         
    
                                        I thought they were because they're providing a service to their owners.
                                         
                                        I think the service has to be like you're blind or you're.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I mean, obviously that includes.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't know why the distinction.
                                         
                                        That's weird.
                                         
                                        Are they trained differently?
                                         
    
                                        Probably that's it.
                                         
                                        Because one's a real thing and the other is, no, I'm kidding.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to get any emails.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Claire, you can send that email.
                                         
                                        It would be fine.
                                         
                                        Yeah, sends it emails to me about emotional support animals, not being a real thing.
                                         
                                        Make it happen.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        I was making a joke.
                                         
                                        It was all a joke.
                                         
                                        I don't seriously feel that way.
                                         
                                        It was just for a lot.
                                         
                                        All a joke.
                                         
                                        Okay, you guys, calm.
                                         
                                        Does everything have to be a joke with you, Brian?
                                         
    
                                        Jeans.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        I know what we ought to do.
                                         
                                        We ought to do a little of this right here.
                                         
                                        We're going to do a little read-this with Amy.
                                         
                                        Red Fraggle 3 joins us as she does all the time,
                                         
                                        especially on these beautiful Thursdays,
                                         
                                        from her home in beautiful downtown Atlanta.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know where you live, somewhere in Florida.
                                         
                                        It's something like that.
                                         
                                        In a roost at the top of the tallest building in Atlanta.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Here's her zip code and her address.
                                         
                                        Check it out, everybody.
                                         
                                        It's Amy.
                                         
                                        Amy, how are you?
                                         
    
                                        I'm doing well.
                                         
                                        How are you guys doing?
                                         
                                        Pretty good.
                                         
                                        Good.
                                         
                                        Pretty good.
                                         
                                        Better now that we're going to talk reading because I'm in the mood.
                                         
                                        I'm in the mood to hear what I should be reading next.
                                         
                                        I'll tell you that.
                                         
    
                                        I sound okay this morning.
                                         
                                        I did not do my normal pre-check.
                                         
                                        I didn't sound fine.
                                         
                                        It's as good as you've ever sounded, actually.
                                         
                                        Aw.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        It's pretty nice.
                                         
                                        Thank you, thank you.
                                         
    
                                        It's hot as balls down here in Atlanta.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, Atlanta, you already start at 100, right?
                                         
                                        So it just goes up from there.
                                         
                                        Yeah, then you're, it's, it's not that bad, like, it's not, it's not a Phoenix kind of heat level, but yeah, like, we've been getting up to like 95 and our, our air conditioner, our upstairs air conditioner went out, but like not, it didn't really go out. It just was phoning it in. So if it was 95 degrees up here, it would only cool it down like 15 degrees. So it was only getting to like 80 degrees. And meanwhile, you know, my office is up here.
                                         
                                        Chuck's office is up here so we're just like sweating and I'm going okay get the
                                         
                                        casting people out here it's too hot yeah that's a lot that's a lot of obnoxious heat
                                         
                                        and also you guys with you know your humidity is what makes it so bad if I went to
                                         
                                        Phoenix I would feel less hot than I probably would there at least for the you know if
                                         
    
                                        you're right in the direct sunlight that's different but let's say I'm in the shade in
                                         
                                        you know somewhere in Georgia or I'm in the shade in Phoenix I think I'd take the shade in
                                         
                                        Because you guys are all wet and gross over there.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's like, the muggy mess makes it a lot tougher.
                                         
                                        During the summer, you go and like, you take a shower and you dry yourself off and
                                         
    
                                        everything and you're still wet.
                                         
                                        Like you still feel like sticky because everything is.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You don't really take, you don't take showers in the South.
                                         
                                        Those are my experience down there.
                                         
                                        You just sort of get wet and then you come out of there and you sort of towel off.
                                         
                                        And then you're like, did I even do it?
                                         
                                        Did anything happen?
                                         
    
                                        And then you just spend the rest of the day one.
                                         
                                        You smell better, I guess.
                                         
                                        That's good.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's like, I don't know that I feel any cleaner, but I smell cleaner so.
                                         
                                        Speaking to this one, I'll go ahead, Ryan.
                                         
                                        The whole reason I don't do, like, costumes that involve makeup if I go to DragonCon, because, like, I'm going to be a silver surfer when I walk in there.
                                         
    
                                        And I'm going to be the silver smear when I, you know, by about lunchtime.
                                         
                                        I love the idea.
                                         
                                        All the silver has gone down to your wrists or so, like your forearm.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        Just like, I've got silver legs.
                                         
                                        blaze on um so i'm a herald of galactus i know uh i know that um so this maybe seemed like a non sequitur but
                                         
                                        maybe not um you reminded me of this so i didn't know this i found out yesterday that all the weather services
                                         
                                        weather apps and services that report what temperature it is if i look at salt lake city right now it's
                                         
    
                                        like 80 something pushing to 90 whatever it is this week or today those temperatures are taken always in
                                         
                                        the shade never in the sunlight did you know that i didn't know that it's interesting right
                                         
                                        I think I had heard that before, but I forgot it until you just said it.
                                         
                                        It's always shaded.
                                         
                                        And the thing I read said, if it was indirect sunlight, it would be ridiculous because it would say, you know, you get crazy readings.
                                         
                                        Plus the equipment would like melt in certain places.
                                         
                                        So they always do those temperature readings for ambient temperature in shaded areas so that you don't have crazy readings.
                                         
                                        I didn't know.
                                         
    
                                        I had no idea.
                                         
                                        Well, yeah, our weather down here, we have, we talk about, um, this is like super,
                                         
                                        exciting for your show, right?
                                         
                                        We're talking about the freaking weather.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the weather.
                                         
                                        But, like, we have the heat index.
                                         
                                        And so they talk about that.
                                         
                                        Like, and as you say, like, the humidity plays into that.
                                         
    
                                        So, yeah, it's kind of like in the, in the winter, you always hear about, what is it, the wind with the wind chill, windchill.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the windchill factor.
                                         
                                        You know, so it's kind of like that only for heat.
                                         
                                        We get the lake effect from the Salt Lake, and it's horrible because, A, it's kind of
                                         
                                        kind of smells like fish, number one.
                                         
                                        And B, it basically, the weather system pulls all this moisture out of the lake and
                                         
                                        immediately moves it over a mile or two and then dumps it.
                                         
                                        And it almost seems like you're getting the worst winter storm of all time.
                                         
    
                                        But really, you're just getting this local moisture that's just turned into snow like
                                         
                                        immediately.
                                         
                                        And it all smells like fish.
                                         
                                        I freaking hate it.
                                         
                                        Lake effect snow is the worst.
                                         
                                        I agree.
                                         
                                        But since it's drying up, I don't have to worry about it.
                                         
                                        People in Britain right now are having like terrible, terrible heat.
                                         
    
                                        And they don't have air conditioning.
                                         
                                        And so it's awful for them over there.
                                         
                                        And I said to my daughter the other day, I was like, you know what?
                                         
                                        I am not going to, I am not going to throw any shade to them or anything like that.
                                         
                                        Ha, ha, shade.
                                         
                                        I didn't do that.
                                         
                                        But I'm not, you know, no hate to them at all.
                                         
                                        Because people make fun of us all the time in the South for not because, like, when it snows,
                                         
    
                                        we just shut everything down down here.
                                         
                                        But it's because we don't have the infrastructure to deal with snow.
                                         
                                        And because why would we?
                                         
                                        It only snows like two days a year down here.
                                         
                                        Like it would be more expensive.
                                         
                                        It's less expensive to just kind of go, okay, everybody had the day off.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                        If it snows, then it would be to have snow plows and crap.
                                         
    
                                        So we just don't have it.
                                         
                                        And then everybody made, you know, John Stewart makes fun of us for snowpocalypse and whatnot.
                                         
                                        But like, I'm like these poor people who have like no air conditioning and yet it's now 90 freaking degrees.
                                         
                                        I feel bad for them.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I hope they, I hope they're, it doesn't get work.
                                         
                                        I would like it to get better.
                                         
    
                                        I know it probably won't.
                                         
                                        All right, let's get to today's selection.
                                         
                                        I've got a clip here.
                                         
                                        Do you want to play this first or do you want to set anything up?
                                         
                                        Yeah, let me go ahead and set it up this week.
                                         
                                        I'll do it a little different.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        So this week's book is, it's kind of an oldie, but it came to mind because my son just
                                         
                                        came home from this really cool program that he did up at Carnegie Mellon.
                                         
                                        and Scott, I sent you a couple of screenshots.
                                         
                                        He was actually working in the program that that guy, Randy Pauch, I don't know if you guys
                                         
                                        remember him, he did the thing called The Last Lecture and, you know, where he was
                                         
                                        dying of cancer and it just so happened that Carnegie Mellon had a series called The Last
                                         
                                        Lecture that they encouraged their professors to do like, oh, imagine if, you know, this was
                                         
                                        You knew this was going to be your last lecture, you know, and what would you want to say to your students?
                                         
    
                                        Well, in his case, it literally was.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        And so this was several years ago, you know, it went viral, you know, back on YouTube and everything.
                                         
                                        And he gave a lot of really cool, good advice.
                                         
                                        And it was pretty inspirational.
                                         
                                        So anyway, my son was at Carnegie Mellon doing the same program that he founded,
                                         
                                        that Randy Pauch founded,
                                         
                                        they were programming virtual reality things
                                         
    
                                        and like building worlds
                                         
                                        and virtual reality and stuff.
                                         
                                        And so they were given,
                                         
                                        it was kind of like a codeathon.
                                         
                                        So anybody who's a nerd has probably done a codathon,
                                         
                                        it's where, you know,
                                         
                                        you sit for a limited period of time,
                                         
                                        very, very small deadline,
                                         
    
                                        and you come up with a concept
                                         
                                        and do as much of it as you can,
                                         
                                        and then you demo it to everybody.
                                         
                                        So it's like super high pressure,
                                         
                                        but some really cool stuff comes out of it.
                                         
                                        So they did that.
                                         
                                        And my son made this world.
                                         
                                        He called it Luciano's Playground.
                                         
    
                                        And it was one of the friends he had made at this program up in Pittsburgh.
                                         
                                        And his name was Luciano.
                                         
                                        And they were just teasing each other.
                                         
                                        Luciano, coincidentally, his world was called like Dallin's Adventure or something like that.
                                         
                                        And it was, my son was the protagonist.
                                         
                                        And at the end of it, he fell down because my son falls down a lot.
                                         
                                        So like, yeah, like literally the, in the presentation, they did a zoom of the presentations.
                                         
                                        And so I was able to watch them.
                                         
    
                                        And the, the professor who was leading it was like, okay, Dallan, be careful coming down the stairs.
                                         
                                        Oh, no.
                                         
                                        You know, I was like, yep, that's my kid.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So anyway.
                                         
                                        But yeah, and like Luciano's playing.
                                         
    
                                        ground that my son made it was you just walked around and like smacked these 3D renderings of his
                                         
                                        friend luciano and and they kind of fell over like uh you know like those big punching bag things
                                         
                                        they kind of fell over like that it was silly but it was it was cool and impressive and and i was
                                         
                                        i was just really excited that he actually got to work in this same lab that was founded by this guy
                                         
                                        who you know made this series of videos that i
                                         
                                        I found really cool and inspirational.
                                         
                                        So I looked and turns out he had turned it before he died, he turned it into a book.
                                         
                                        So this week's book is the last lecture by Randy Pouch.
                                         
    
                                        So now you can play the clip.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Here's your clip.
                                         
                                        Provide an abstract.
                                         
                                        There's a formality in academia that can't be ignored, even if a man is busy with other things, like trying not to die.
                                         
                                        By mid-August, I was told that a poster for the lecture had to be printed, so I'd have to decide on a topic.
                                         
                                        That very week, however, I got the news.
                                         
                                        My most recent treatment hadn't worked.
                                         
    
                                        I had just months to live.
                                         
                                        I knew I could cancel the lecture.
                                         
                                        Everyone would understand.
                                         
                                        Suddenly, there were so many other things to be done.
                                         
                                        I had to deal with my own grief and the sadness of those who loved me.
                                         
                                        I had to throw myself into getting my family's affairs in order.
                                         
                                        And yet, despite everything, I couldn't shake the idea of giving the talk.
                                         
                                        I was energized by the idea of delivering a last lecture that really was a last lecture.
                                         
    
                                        What could I say?
                                         
                                        How would it be received?
                                         
                                        Could I even get through it?
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Wow, that's heavy stuff.
                                         
                                        Jeez.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It is, but he also, his attitude about his situation was surprisingly upbeat.
                                         
                                        You know, especially if you go and you, you can go Google the last lecture.
                                         
                                        and I'm sure it's still out there and you can watch it.
                                         
                                        You know, he, he doesn't, he doesn't have any real, like, oh, please feel sorry for me about it.
                                         
                                        In fact, quite the opposite.
                                         
                                        He kind of, he has a few kind of old man, you know, we get off my lawn kind of opinions about things.
                                         
                                        But, you know, but not in a bitter way.
                                         
                                        he's just like, oh, kids today are too coddled, you know, that kind of thing.
                                         
    
                                        But, yeah, like, you know, he just kind of accepted, okay, well, this is how it is.
                                         
                                        So what am I going to do with the time I have left?
                                         
                                        And he talks a lot about how time is the only thing you have.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        And he tells this one little anecdote about going to a store and, you know, the receipt didn't print or something.
                                         
                                        and then all of a sudden two receipts printed,
                                         
                                        so he realized he got charged twice for the same thing.
                                         
                                        And it was like $16.
                                         
    
                                        And in that moment, you know,
                                         
                                        his brain did all these little calculations.
                                         
                                        And he said, okay, I could possibly stand here for 10 minutes
                                         
                                        and get my $16 back.
                                         
                                        Or I could just leave.
                                         
                                        You just get out of here.
                                         
                                        Because frankly, right now, my time,
                                         
                                        that 10 minutes is worth more than $16
                                         
    
                                        to me, and I don't care, you know?
                                         
                                        And I have, I always enjoy that.
                                         
                                        I'm like, right, like, I can always make more money.
                                         
                                        I can't make time.
                                         
                                        You know, time is a finite resource.
                                         
                                        And so that's a lot of the message that's there is that.
                                         
                                        And the title of his actual lecture was called,
                                         
                                        making your childhood dreams come true or something like that was something about you know
                                         
    
                                        achieving your childhood dreams and and it's a lot about like okay here's how you deal with
                                         
                                        obstacles you know obstacles are not there to stop you they're there to show you how much
                                         
                                        you really want the thing you know and sometimes you don't actually want it that much and
                                         
                                        you're like no not worth it and then so then you're like
                                         
                                        like okay cool i can i can uh i can happily give up on that dream knowing that yeah it wasn't worth
                                         
                                        it um was he was he able to record the audio book before he passed or is that somebody looks
                                         
                                        like it is somebody else no yeah that's there's a narrator who's doing that uh but he does have um
                                         
                                        he does have a couple things that he did record yep that's him but there he is yeah we put him up
                                         
    
                                        on screen here this is the actual lecture so if you're if you're out there wondering if you should
                                         
                                        check out the book i would actually i think probably watch this and then follow it with the book
                                         
                                        wouldn't you say it's like kind of a yes yes i would i would definitely agree with that because
                                         
                                        you know if if you've only got an hour or so just check out the because that's how long the the
                                         
                                        video is just check out the video um and it and it's really good if if you want a little bit more
                                         
                                        in-depth into kind of his story and he tells some more he tells some of the same stories
                                         
                                        that he tells in the lecture but also he goes a little bit more in-depth and he tells other
                                         
                                        ones and you know he he goes more into how he and his wife kind of dealt with the diagnosis
                                         
    
                                        at first and that kind of thing but it's it mostly is what he wanted to leave as his legacy
                                         
                                        because I mean he was you saw you can see in the video he's very young he was he was
                                         
                                        was in his 40s.
                                         
                                        Yeah, early 40s.
                                         
                                        And so, yeah, it was not, it was a very unexpected diagnosis.
                                         
                                        He had pancreatic cancer, and they gave him, you know, something like three to six months.
                                         
                                        And it was out of nowhere, and he had three small children.
                                         
                                        So all of a sudden, it was not only is it the grief of all this, but, you know, he's a, he's a computer science guy.
                                         
    
                                        And so he was like, okay, how do I solve this problem?
                                         
                                        I need to make sure my family is settled and taken care of and, you know, after I'm gone kind of thing.
                                         
                                        So they had to deal with all the, all the logistics and all of that on top of all of that grief.
                                         
                                        And, yeah, so, but it was, it's, it's weirdly uplifting, you know, because it is, it is heavy.
                                         
                                        It's like, oh, wow, I can't imagine going through that.
                                         
                                        But it is also, you know, hey, you, you.
                                         
                                        Life is going to give you a thing.
                                         
                                        Life is going to throw curve balls at you.
                                         
    
                                        All you can do is respond to it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        The only thing you have control over is how you respond to it.
                                         
                                        And so, yeah, I was just, honestly, I was inspired to use this book this week because, like I said, my kid just came back from the program that's that he founded up at Carnegie Mellon.
                                         
                                        And so, yeah, I was just like, have a proud mama moment.
                                         
                                        And I was like, oh, cool, this is the book I'm going to pick this week.
                                         
                                        That's a good one.
                                         
    
                                        I've never seen the lecture.
                                         
                                        I've heard of this before through a few other people that I've never read it or seen this.
                                         
                                        So I think I'm going to watch this later today.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I definitely would say watch the lecture because it's really good and it's, you know, it's funny in parts.
                                         
                                        And it's, it kind of, honestly, it reminds me of the song that came out, like the sunscreen song.
                                         
                                        Do you guys remember that?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there was the Bazelerman, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yes, yes.
                                         
                                        Where it was like, you know, the big advice was always wear sunscreen, but then it was
                                         
                                        all this life advice that he gave to graduates.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was like a graduation commencement, the commencement speech.
                                         
                                        Is that what those are called?
                                         
                                        Like basically where, you know, they invite a celebrity or somebody to speak to the graduating
                                         
                                        class and inspire them and that sort of thing.
                                         
                                        And then they set it to music.
                                         
    
                                        Yes, exactly.
                                         
                                        Exactly. Exactly.
                                         
                                        But yeah, I mean, it's kind of like that.
                                         
                                        It was a legacy that he wanted to leave behind because, like I said, he had small children.
                                         
                                        And so he was like, okay, I'm not going to be here to say all these things to my kids when they're old enough to hear it.
                                         
                                        So I need to leave it behind in a way that will outlive me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's pretty cool.
                                         
                                        If you're trying to find this on YouTube really easy, just type last lecture in the search and you'll get it.
                                         
    
                                        It's the first thing that comes up.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        It's got like 20,000 800,000 views or something.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It went super viral even when it came out.
                                         
                                        And it's been, I mean, at least 15 years.
                                         
                                        I mean, you know, so.
                                         
    
                                        It looks like it was, what year did he pass?
                                         
                                        Oh, died in 08.
                                         
                                        And the lecture was in 07 just prior to that.
                                         
                                        Let's see, before that July.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, the fall before that July where he passed.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, it's been a bit.
                                         
                                        It's been some time.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, well, check it out.
                                         
                                        It sounds heavy, but it sounds like it's important stuff.
                                         
                                        So check out both the lecture and the book, again, the last lecture.
                                         
                                        And you say his last name, Pauch, Pausch?
                                         
                                        Pausch.
                                         
                                        Paush.
                                         
                                        Pausch.
                                         
                                        Pausch.
                                         
    
                                        Pausch.
                                         
                                        Randy Pauch.
                                         
                                        Okay, very cool.
                                         
                                        Poush.
                                         
                                        And you'll find links on quicktms.coms.
                                         
                                        Very, very nice.
                                         
                                        Well, thank you, Amy.
                                         
                                        That was awesome.
                                         
    
                                        And we'll be looking forward to doing this again next week.
                                         
                                        also you're um so next not not today but the next time we all meet with wendy here on the show
                                         
                                        she'll be here today but the next time she's on i'm not sure it's next week or not because i think
                                         
                                        she might be gone but whenever it is um we're going to do a follow-up on that whole test thing and i
                                         
                                        forwarded your results to her as well so you're going to be involved you're going to be somehow
                                         
                                        involved in all that uh when we get back around to talking about that again so yeah that'll be
                                         
                                        fun i've got another week to take the test because i was in Vegas and i completely
                                         
                                        forgot. We were going to do that. I didn't remember either. It was too crazy of a week and I completely
                                         
    
                                        spaced until today. Are we doing the cost, the one that you just pay like 20 bucks for us?
                                         
                                        The $20. The Clifton Strengths is what it was called. That's the one. So, yeah, that'll be
                                         
                                        soon. And Amy's data is in there. We don't know what that means until we find out, I guess,
                                         
                                        when we get there. So Amy, have a fantastic week. Thank you. Oh, real, real quick. I want to, I want
                                         
                                        to plug the southeast tadpole gathering. It's September 9th. And it's like we got this huge
                                         
                                        house. And so there's plenty of room still. And we've had a couple people drop out. It's like 160
                                         
                                        bucks for a whole weekend to come hang out with us. So yeah, go and go and sign up for that.
                                         
                                        160's nothing, you guys.
                                         
    
                                        It's nothing. Oh, I wish I was so wish that I wasn't doing D23 that. I mean, I'm glad I'm doing D23 that weekend. But still, I wish
                                         
                                        was a different weekend because I would totally go.
                                         
                                        That seems awesome.
                                         
                                        It seems like you guys are going to have a great time.
                                         
                                        Next year.
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        we're going to,
                                         
                                        this is like the pilot,
                                         
    
                                        right?
                                         
                                        Like we're going to test drive lists and we'll,
                                         
                                        we'll iron out the kinks.
                                         
                                        But yeah,
                                         
                                        I'll go.
                                         
                                        I'll go when it's good.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Go when they figure the crap out.
                                         
                                        We're trying to get Dan the tabletop man.
                                         
                                        It's,
                                         
                                        he's having a little possible scheduling thing like where we're possibly his work or maybe
                                         
                                        his wife's work.
                                         
                                        I'm not sure.
                                         
                                        But, you know, he's like, I'm trying to get up there if I can, you know.
                                         
    
                                        So, yeah.
                                         
                                        But I will definitely be there.
                                         
                                        September will be there.
                                         
                                        And we're going to have a good time.
                                         
                                        I am sending September a big box of swag to take there, though, some coverville and soundography and a whole bunch of stuff.
                                         
                                        Awesome.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Nice, nice.
                                         
    
                                        And, Scott, if you've got some swag that you can sell me or whatever.
                                         
                                        Oh, I definitely do.
                                         
                                        And I don't need to sell.
                                         
                                        I'll just send you stuff.
                                         
                                        I got things.
                                         
                                        Don't you worry.
                                         
                                        Oh, thank you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, don't you worry.
                                         
    
                                        I got ideas.
                                         
                                        also that's cool that you'll have done away there because he never goes to anything this is fantastic
                                         
                                        i'm so excited yeah i'm excited i'm definitely like he's asked for details uh a couple times and so
                                         
                                        we're i i think he's definitely excited about coming so i'm stoked about that makes me happy all right
                                         
                                        uh i will uh we'll look forward to that more talk about it more as time goes on until then
                                         
                                        hamie have a great week we'll see you later you too
                                         
                                        boop burp all right off she goes into the land of the living
                                         
                                        Hey, Brian, it's time
                                         
    
                                        for this.
                                         
                                        I don't watch the news.
                                         
                                        We're going to do a little bit of news
                                         
                                        that's brought to you by.
                                         
                                        Brought to you by Coverville today,
                                         
                                        1 p.m. Mountain Time Twitch.tv.TV slash coverville.
                                         
                                        We're going to be celebrating
                                         
                                        what would have been Jerry Garcia's 80th birthday
                                         
    
                                        with a bunch of covers of Grateful Dead songs
                                         
                                        that won't make you want to lick acid
                                         
                                        and put forks in your ears
                                         
                                        because they, you know, some of those songs,
                                         
                                        listen,
                                         
                                        some of the Grateful Dead, but man, I
                                         
                                        could not go to one of those concerts. I just
                                         
                                        couldn't do it. I haven't have a hard time
                                         
    
                                        with live versions that take longer than
                                         
                                        seven minutes to play trucking for Pete's
                                         
                                        sake. So, today on the
                                         
                                        show, you're going to cover, there's some punk rock
                                         
                                        covers of the Grateful Dead,
                                         
                                        there's some heavy metal covers,
                                         
                                        electronic versions
                                         
                                        of the Grateful Dead, all that stuff today.
                                         
    
                                        1 p.m. Mountain Time,
                                         
                                        Twitch.tv.tv.
                                         
                                        Sounds great.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        A naked, armed, 46-year-old man.
                                         
                                        Oh, is that me?
                                         
                                        Oh, no, I'm older than that.
                                         
                                        You're older than that now.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Sacred arm.
                                         
                                        His arms are naked?
                                         
                                        So what?
                                         
                                        His arms, his legs.
                                         
                                        Sometimes we don't wear sleeves.
                                         
                                        It's, you know.
                                         
                                        His torso, his groin.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, he's naked, comma, armed.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        See, not naked armed.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He was dancing, doing push-ups, all this stuff in the middle of the Michigan Highway.
                                         
                                        Hey, Billy Crystal, can you do this?
                                         
                                        Jeffrey from the Tadpool listening audience sent this in.
                                         
                                        Thank you, Jeffrey, for this story.
                                         
    
                                        46-year-old man was taken to custody after getting naked dancing and doing push-ups
                                         
                                        while holding a gun in the middle of the Michigan Highway, according to police.
                                         
                                        Officials in Wexford County said they received multiple calls on July 19th
                                         
                                        about a naked man dancing with a handgun on southbound U.S. 131 near Mile Marker 187.
                                         
                                        It's very specific.
                                         
                                        Very specific, yes.
                                         
                                        So you can go and check out that little stretch of highway if you'd like to for yourself.
                                         
                                        Yep. Let's see, witness told police the man was dancing and doing push-ups.
                                         
    
                                        He was in possession of a 9-millimeter handgun according to the authorities.
                                         
                                        What was he holstering it?
                                         
                                        Good question.
                                         
                                        Nature's pocket. That's where that goes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, geez.
                                         
                                        Let's see. He's from Rapid City. This guy eventually manually emptied the ammunition from the handgun while witnesses were on the phone with police, so he didn't fire at anyone.
                                         
                                        Michigan State Police Sergeant and Wicksford County Deputy took the man into protective custody and said he was taken to a,
                                         
                                        Munson Hospital, Cadillac, I guess is a Munson Hospital Cadillac.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, there's Cadillac, Michigan.
                                         
                                        Oh, oh, oh, that's why.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so Munson must be like the, not the brand, but like kind of the name of the hospital
                                         
                                        Cadillac is its location.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that makes sense.
                                         
                                        For evaluation, they said they determined the man possessed a valid Michigan, CPL, certified
                                         
                                        public license?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Personal lip shits?
                                         
                                        I have no idea of it.
                                         
                                        A carry possession license or concealed possession license.
                                         
                                        Again, don't know where he's going to conceal it, but.
                                         
                                        While you keep it in your cornhole there, Brian, that's what you do.
                                         
                                        Concealed pistol license.
                                         
                                        Oh, is that what the CPL is?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, still don't know where he's going to conceal it.
                                         
                                        Maybe he's really hairy, you know?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        He's really heavy and he can just kind of lift up his belly and put the gun under the belly
                                         
                                        and then lower the belly.
                                         
                                        Like that future trauma where every time you moved,
                                         
                                        a human version of Bender went,
                                         
                                        woo.
                                         
    
                                        I love that one so much.
                                         
                                        Here's a story in Alabama.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        An Alabama official told a reporter her skirt was too short
                                         
                                        to witness an execution.
                                         
                                        Oh, geez.
                                         
                                        Look, it matters.
                                         
                                        Give the executed one last look at somebody's delay.
                                         
    
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        What's the problem?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Can she be in the front row, please?
                                         
                                        Hello.
                                         
                                        Oh, tap, tap, tap, tap.
                                         
                                        Could she be in the front row, please?
                                         
                                        Thanks.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, my last wish that she'll be in the front row.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Have your own little Sharon Stone moment up there.
                                         
                                        Exactly, right.
                                         
                                        You're old, yeah.
                                         
                                        As Alabama Department of Corrections prepared to execute Joe Nathan James Jr.,
                                         
                                        Joe Nathan James Jr.
                                         
                                        On Thursday night.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, no.
                                         
                                        He was born to be here.
                                         
                                        Against the best wishes of his family.
                                         
                                        and family members, an agency told a journalist
                                         
                                        that she would not be allowed to witness the killing
                                         
                                        because her skirt was too short.
                                         
                                        The journalist al.com's
                                         
                                        Ivana Haringkew
                                         
    
                                        some Russian
                                         
                                        looking name, had worn the skirt to previous executions
                                         
                                        without incident. She wrote in a statement, even after
                                         
                                        pulling the skirt down to her hips.
                                         
                                        Wait, pulled the skirt
                                         
                                        down to her hips. Yeah, so she pulled down
                                         
                                        the skirt so it wasn't hiked up
                                         
                                        quite as high to see if she could
                                         
    
                                        get the hemline down a little bit lower.
                                         
                                        Got it. That makes sense.
                                         
                                        She was still told, not appropriate.
                                         
                                        Determined to do her job, she borrowed waterproof, waterproof fisherman's waiter pants from a photographer she'd never met.
                                         
                                        Why did he have those there? What is that about? That's weird.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that is weird. It just comes in handy? I don't know.
                                         
                                        That's really weird. She stuffed the suspenders under her skirt to keep the pants from falling down.
                                         
                                        The Department of Correction spokesmen determined this was more, this was more of a professional outfit, but proceeded to take issue with her open-toed, high-heel shoes at that point.
                                         
    
                                        claiming they were to revealing.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Who is this guy?
                                         
                                        And also, check his internet history.
                                         
                                        Check his internet history.
                                         
                                        People that do this?
                                         
                                        Always something going on, man.
                                         
                                        Something's weird.
                                         
    
                                        After changing it to tennis shoes, she had the car.
                                         
                                        She was finally permitted to cover the execution after all that.
                                         
                                        She had to wear fishermen's big old waterproof fisherman waiters and a pair of sneakers in the car.
                                         
                                        Just because you got to, what is up?
                                         
                                        That is weird to me.
                                         
                                        That is weird.
                                         
                                        you know i had to look up to see if they had photos like how short this skirt was because you know
                                         
                                        for signs but i landed on her twitter page where her bio is um let's see here uh or not bio her
                                         
    
                                        first her pin tweet to all my new followers welcome here we talk about current alabama court cases
                                         
                                        dogs and reality tv great there you go least you doesn't say hey i got the shortest skirt in
                                         
                                        Alabama come see me this next week or whatever i mean look uh it uh the irony
                                         
                                        is not lost on me that you're
                                         
                                        witnessing a public
                                         
                                        execution
                                         
                                        of a human being
                                         
                                        and I'm not even
                                         
    
                                        making a statement here
                                         
                                        pro or anti-capital punishment
                                         
                                        I'm just saying the situation
                                         
                                        is we're killing a guy
                                         
                                        deserved or not we're killing a guy
                                         
                                        and your problem are
                                         
                                        open-toed shoes that's the problem
                                         
                                        that's the big deal
                                         
    
                                        today at the execution
                                         
                                        of a person
                                         
                                        It just seems so weird to me.
                                         
                                        It's like burning a witch at the stake and then saying, I'm sorry, you can't come in here.
                                         
                                        Your sideburns aren't too unkempt.
                                         
                                        Yeah, your unkempt sideburns are going to, I'm sorry, it's just against the rule.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Oh, my gosh, he's got an adorable basset hound.
                                         
    
                                        Holy cow, what a cutie.
                                         
                                        Well, everyone loves a good basset hound.
                                         
                                        I love a good basset hound.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Big, droopy basset hound.
                                         
                                        Here, I'll give you a picture.
                                         
                                        Well, let us have a look here.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Have a look at this adorable
                                         
                                        Big Basset Hound
                                         
                                        It's huge too
                                         
                                        Oh look at that dog
                                         
                                        Yeah you know what
                                         
                                        I don't care how inappropriate her skirt is
                                         
                                        Her dog is awesome
                                         
                                        Look at this dog
                                         
    
                                        Her dog is appropriate
                                         
                                        Yeah it's awesome dog
                                         
                                        You know that thing just goes
                                         
                                        Yeah right exactly
                                         
                                        I love those things
                                         
                                        Big lovable things
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        Let's gonna do it for the news
                                         
    
                                        We'll be back after this break
                                         
                                        With my sister Wendy
                                         
                                        we got an email we're going to tackle
                                         
                                        and we'll talk a little bit about
                                         
                                        what our plans are for that test moving forward
                                         
                                        anyway all that coming up in a second after
                                         
                                        this song that Brian brought
                                         
                                        yeah well Tito Bell's wrote
                                         
    
                                        wrote in for this one
                                         
                                        big thanks to Clarion Call Media
                                         
                                        for sending this over
                                         
                                        this is an alternative artist
                                         
                                        named Octavio
                                         
                                        I'm sorry Octavio the Dweeb
                                         
                                        he's actually the guest artist
                                         
                                        he's
                                         
    
                                        the band is called
                                         
                                        Blame My Youth but Octavio
                                         
                                        Octavia, Octavio, the dweeb, is guest vocalist on this thing.
                                         
                                        This thing is so cool.
                                         
                                        I'm just going to say, this is great.
                                         
                                        Go check it out.
                                         
                                        LA band, rock quartet.
                                         
                                        Again, the band is called Blame My Youth.
                                         
    
                                        This is their brand new song called SOS.
                                         
                                        Here we go.
                                         
                                        I love his name.
                                         
                                        The dweeb.
                                         
                                        Is it a rank?
                                         
                                        Like, what is the dweeb?
                                         
                                        Did he give himself that name or was that given to him?
                                         
                                        Are you from a group of dweeps or the dweeb?
                                         
    
                                        I have questions.
                                         
                                        Anyway, here it is.
                                         
                                        enjoy. We'll be back in a second.
                                         
                                        I, I'm on an island, alone alone in an island since you've left.
                                         
                                        Dreaming of you, my toxic companion, you left me stranded left for dead.
                                         
                                        I'm screaming an S-O-A-W-A-W!
                                         
                                        Why don't you throw me a line?
                                         
                                        I'm screaming ass away.
                                         
    
                                        I need to live by my side
                                         
                                        because I'm all in an island
                                         
                                        a longer in an island since you lived.
                                         
                                        Came into my life when I needed you the most.
                                         
                                        Spend every cent on my time
                                         
                                        because my heart was already broke.
                                         
                                        Used to make you laugh.
                                         
                                        Guess I was the joke
                                         
    
                                        But you take the wheel
                                         
                                        And you crash
                                         
                                        And you did so dead fast
                                         
                                        And now
                                         
                                        I keep on running
                                         
                                        Wherever your love is
                                         
                                        Even though you suck my shit
                                         
                                        With your lips
                                         
    
                                        I still joke
                                         
                                        All your name in my throat
                                         
                                        I'm screaming
                                         
                                        SOS
                                         
                                        Why won't you throw me
                                         
                                        Align?
                                         
                                        I'm screaming
                                         
                                        SOS
                                         
    
                                        I'm screaming SOS
                                         
                                        I need you
                                         
                                        by my side
                                         
                                        Because I
                                         
                                        I'm on an island
                                         
                                        Alone on an island
                                         
                                        Since you let
                                         
                                        I'm on an island
                                         
    
                                        Alone on an island
                                         
                                        Since you left
                                         
                                        You have got to destroy that mattress
                                         
                                        You have got to destroy that mattress
                                         
                                        Ah
                                         
                                        The morning stream is part of a nutritious breakfast
                                         
                                        Kids have grown to love
                                         
                                        They're pretty good, I guess.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, they're okay.
                                         
                                        And we're back.
                                         
                                        Tell me who that was one more time.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's the band,
                                         
                                        Blame My Youth,
                                         
                                        featuring Octavio the Dweeb,
                                         
                                        and the single is called SOS.
                                         
                                        Go watch them in L.A.
                                         
    
                                        Watch them destroy that mattress.
                                         
                                        Yeah, destroy that mattress.
                                         
                                        Destroy that mattress.
                                         
                                        For those wondering where that came from,
                                         
                                        that was the epic 80s original film uh hellraiser hellraiser yeah they were worried about that
                                         
                                        mattress that's where all the demons came out of it's got a whole bunch of pins in it yeah and springs and
                                         
                                        things get out springs and pins they're doing a new uh they're doing a whole series like a reboot series
                                         
                                        tv thing um hard r blood soaked thing for hellraiser and i'm actually pretty excited i am too yeah
                                         
    
                                        I like Hell Razor.
                                         
                                        Is it going to be on Shudder?
                                         
                                        Because that's the one service I'm currently not subscribing to.
                                         
                                        I just sub to them for that weird Mad God movie, but I let it lapse because there's not much else I cared to see.
                                         
                                        But I would probably re-sub for that.
                                         
                                        It was only five bucks or something.
                                         
                                        But let's see, real quick.
                                         
                                        Hell Razor.
                                         
    
                                        Hell Razor.
                                         
                                        Star Chaser.
                                         
                                        Natural Bar Taser.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, here it is.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        We got it pre-production.
                                         
                                        no currently
                                         
    
                                        filming I can't find shit
                                         
                                        well that was great
                                         
                                        anyway that's coming
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        it's on its way
                                         
                                        we don't know much about it
                                         
                                        don't know who pinhead is
                                         
                                        sounds good
                                         
    
                                        well watch it when it's here
                                         
                                        that's the deal with it then
                                         
                                        all right
                                         
                                        let's get Wendy all up in it
                                         
                                        she's uh
                                         
                                        whoops
                                         
                                        looks like she's online
                                         
                                        probably waiting by the phone
                                         
    
                                        patiently
                                         
                                        and uh we're gonna bring her in
                                         
                                        right after this
                                         
                                        everyone knows
                                         
                                        it windy
                                         
                                        My sister, Wendy Dunford, is on the show, and she's here every Thursday to answer your questions in the psychology realm, because she's a real therapist.
                                         
                                        She does this stuff for a living, but she also slums it here and helps you with your questions.
                                         
                                        Wendy, welcome back to the program.
                                         
    
                                        Hi.
                                         
                                        Hi.
                                         
                                        Welcome to me and you.
                                         
                                        Welcome to you.
                                         
                                        Welcome to you.
                                         
                                        It's good to have you back.
                                         
                                        I know, just for quick housekeeping here, you're not here next week, right?
                                         
                                        You've got a thing.
                                         
    
                                        No, got a thing.
                                         
                                        So what we're going to do for our tests, Brian and I are going to make sure we have ours done.
                                         
                                        And we forwarded you, Amy's.
                                         
                                        We may get a couple other people who are willing to send us their results.
                                         
                                        And we're all going to have that done by the very next Thursday when you're back.
                                         
                                        And we will then convene and see what all that meant.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Then we'll have everyone pull up their data and we'll work together collectively on our strengths.
                                         
    
                                        And then we'll find out that Wendy got five bucks for every one that they did.
                                         
                                        Just a scheme, just a pyramid scam is what it is.
                                         
                                        Well, we're both from Utah, the land of pyramid schemes.
                                         
                                        Listen, I don't ever think that way, but that would have been smart.
                                         
                                        Dang it.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        What are they going to say?
                                         
                                        They're like, you know, 10 people bought it in your name.
                                         
    
                                        Good job.
                                         
                                        Yeah, good job.
                                         
                                        Scott, correction.
                                         
                                        I think Egypt is the land of pyramid schemes.
                                         
                                        Oh, good point.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're successfully anyway.
                                         
                                        They made them.
                                         
                                        They got them.
                                         
    
                                        They're still there.
                                         
                                        Are you about dads today?
                                         
                                        What's happening?
                                         
                                        Ah.
                                         
                                        You just see,
                                         
                                        videos. We look like grandpaws. Oh my gosh. We look like a couple of grandpaws in Florida. I'm serious. We're wearing the stupidest clothes. Anyway, whatever. I embrace it. I got called out on it. A dad joke from Wendy. I know. Can you believe that? Oh, my gosh. Well, that's all right. What we're going to do today, we'll clear that all out of your head. We have an email from a listener. And someone at home is going to go, of course, this is an email you guys would read. But I promise you, it wasn't, this is like a real issue. This is a real issue for somebody.
                                         
                                        I can contribute.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you might actually have a little something to say here.
                                         
    
                                        I remembered a conversation about this.
                                         
                                        So anyway, I'll go ahead and read it, and then we'll see what we can do with it.
                                         
                                        Dear Wendy Scott and Brian, I thought I'd hit you guys up on a more lighthearted but still
                                         
                                        troubling issue.
                                         
                                        I'm hoping Wendy will be able to shed some light on.
                                         
                                        I have a shy bladder.
                                         
                                        All right?
                                         
                                        Doesn't want to date, that sort of stuff.
                                         
    
                                        It's just introverted bladder.
                                         
                                        Introverted bladder.
                                         
                                        I think that sounds worse than it is.
                                         
                                        Anyway, I have an extremely difficult time
                                         
                                        trying to urinate in public restrooms
                                         
                                        when there are other people around.
                                         
                                        I know that the issue is all in my head
                                         
                                        and that no one is actually listening or paying attention
                                         
    
                                        to me, peeing or not paying.
                                         
                                        It's also a bit of an issue at home.
                                         
                                        When my ex-wife would be in the bathroom with me,
                                         
                                        I would take me a second to get things going
                                         
                                        or flowing, he says.
                                         
                                        It's also a current issue for me
                                         
                                        when my girlfriend is in bed
                                         
                                        and I'm in the bathroom right next door.
                                         
    
                                        If there is dead silence,
                                         
                                        I feel so embarrassed.
                                         
                                        anxiety builds and I fear she is wondering why I can't or why she can't hear me pee, hear any pee
                                         
                                        hitting the toilet bowl, which leads me to even more anxiety and even longer time before I start
                                         
                                        peeing. It's a vicious cycle, he says. I don't know where this embarrassment comes from. I know that
                                         
                                        no one cares. I know we all pee. I know that I don't think about or listen to other people peeing and
                                         
                                        yet I still can't shake the anxiety. Wendy, could you please help explain this psychology behind this?
                                         
                                        I'd love to hear your input, thanks.
                                         
    
                                        Waiting to Whiz is how he signed it.
                                         
                                        He has some additional details here in the PS.
                                         
                                        He says, I am a 35-year-old man, classify myself as an introvert, and I have a healthy social life.
                                         
                                        Or but I have a healthy social life.
                                         
                                        I have a loving girlfriend and a great sex life.
                                         
                                        Yeah, all right, buddy.
                                         
                                        I stay physically fit.
                                         
                                        I loathe public speaking.
                                         
    
                                        Bed wedding was never an issue for me growing up.
                                         
                                        no idea why, or sorry, no idea if any of this is, is or isn't relative.
                                         
                                        Relevant.
                                         
                                        He put relative, but I think you meant relevant.
                                         
                                        But I thought I would throw it in there anyway.
                                         
                                        So there you go.
                                         
                                        Wendy, I don't know where to start with this because this is not a thing I, I can't relate to this.
                                         
                                        I can pee anytime.
                                         
    
                                        I can pee now.
                                         
                                        I can pee right now.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Where's a cup?
                                         
                                        I'm doing it.
                                         
                                        Go ahead.
                                         
                                        Keep going while I pee.
                                         
    
                                        That's so gross.
                                         
                                        Hey, listen, everyone, this is for what's like to.
                                         
                                        have a brother,
                                         
                                        if you're wondering.
                                         
                                        Is this really what it's like to have Scott as your brother?
                                         
                                        Let's narrow this down a little bit.
                                         
                                        Fair enough.
                                         
                                        All brothers should not be put in this category.
                                         
    
                                        Okay,
                                         
                                        so first of all,
                                         
                                        I love that he gave so many details,
                                         
                                        and he was reading my mind about a couple things.
                                         
                                        And I don't know if he's ever spent any time talking to a doctor about any of these,
                                         
                                        but those would be questions you would ask.
                                         
                                        Like, you know, how is your sex life?
                                         
                                        Yeah, basically just functionality.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Okay. Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Gotcha.
                                         
                                        Is there any, so functionality for two reasons.
                                         
                                        One being just, is there any biological things happening, sort of structural problems?
                                         
                                        Or also like, you know, performance anxiety can be another form of anxiety.
                                         
                                        And so that's a great question to answer.
                                         
                                        Not wetting the bed, not having a problem previously.
                                         
    
                                        All those are good things to rule out.
                                         
                                        Great.
                                         
                                        So we've narrowed down.
                                         
                                        So here is you're over the.
                                         
                                        over the internet diagnosis, is a classic case of Peru, I can't say it right,
                                         
                                        Peru-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-E-S-I-R-R-E-S-I-S.
                                         
                                        Okay, so basically it's closely associated to social anxiety disorder,
                                         
                                        and it's just a type of performance phobia, and it's very specific to public restrooms
                                         
    
                                        or where someone is going to hear you, okay?
                                         
                                        So if you're all alone, this isn't an issue, right?
                                         
                                        You're just all, you're by yourself, okay.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        I assume, or he'd be dead.
                                         
                                        Well, that's a good point.
                                         
                                        He'd be so full of pee, he'd be more pee than man.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I guess.
                                         
    
                                        Well, it doesn't say that he can.
                                         
                                        It just takes them a little bit longer to do it, right?
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, so I'm going to just throw out.
                                         
                                        Here's some signs that include stuff he talked about, but for those at home going,
                                         
                                        oh, I'm finally, I'm finally being heard, you know, this is my life.
                                         
                                        It's, you need complete.
                                         
    
                                        privacy when using restroom. You fear that other people will hear you. There's a complete
                                         
                                        inability to use toilets other than at home. You feel anxious about needing to use a toilet.
                                         
                                        You don't drink enough water so you won't ever have to use the restroom. You avoid events
                                         
                                        because you might have to use the public bathroom. And then negative thoughts about yourself
                                         
                                        when you're using the restroom. So Scott does not have any problem with negative thoughts about
                                         
                                        himself using the restroom. Well, I will say this. Let me clarify. If
                                         
                                        I'm in a bathroom and it's, uh, we're, we're doing the other number, you know, I got the,
                                         
                                        the old sit down business going on. I may be, if there's a bunch of people in there, I'll be like,
                                         
    
                                        all right, this is going to be, this might be loud. And I had a friend who taught me, he says,
                                         
                                        here's what you do. Here's how you break the ice. You sit in there. And when there's a bunch
                                         
                                        people out there say, excuse me, I'm just letting y'all know, I'm about to bear down, is what he said.
                                         
                                        Now, I've never heard had to do it, but he always, something about that advice always was comforting,
                                         
                                        Because it was like, if you know that, you know, four days of chili is about to make its appearance here, you can warn people in a way that's like self-disarming kind of whatever.
                                         
                                        Like, self-deprecating, like, all right, everybody, get ready.
                                         
                                        And I've never had to do it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's like, I'm going to bear it down.
                                         
    
                                        And I remember thinking, well, I hope I never have to say that, but I feel like I could.
                                         
                                        So something about that was comforting.
                                         
                                        But other than that, yeah, it's just whatever.
                                         
                                        It's not a problem for me.
                                         
                                        I could pee over.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So let's talk about, I mean, he didn't say.
                                         
    
                                        necessarily how long he's been struggling with this but sort of a couple of surveys and research
                                         
                                        done with this is people tend to struggle with this for decades like yeah because it doesn't
                                         
                                        you just have to keep going to the bathroom every day right like there's plenty of chances for
                                         
                                        you to avoid and we've talked enough about anxiety on the show maybe I'll just give a little
                                         
                                        primer or two phobias and any type of anxiety increases um when you avoid the thing you're
                                         
                                        afraid of, right? So you can build and build and build anxiety by just never doing the thing
                                         
                                        that you're frightened of. And so, for example, like, you're afraid of spiders. You can avoid them
                                         
                                        most of the time, depending on where you live. And you're going to make it worse, the more you
                                         
    
                                        run from them, you know, et cetera. And most of that is not going to disrupt your life. However,
                                         
                                        the way to not be afraid of spiders is actually to expose yourself to them more approach.
                                         
                                        them more. So we'll talk about the treatment for this, but you can imagine using the toilet
                                         
                                        many times a day, and especially if you've worked in an office or you're traveling or something
                                         
                                        like, you're exposed to the fear many times throughout the day. So if you're avoiding at all
                                         
                                        times from going in public, then you have a lot of times you could maybe be practicing
                                         
                                        not having this. So maybe like the pandemic in lockdown, he was like, sweet, it's just my
                                         
                                        bathroom. However, it's even his girlfriend in the next room. So it's not like he's, it's just
                                         
    
                                        anytime there's a witness. Or his ex-wife in the room, in the bathroom with him. Yeah. Yeah, which is
                                         
                                        a little weird. Not weird, I guess. No, I know there's some people who do that who don't have
                                         
                                        a problem, peeing or, you know, doing those things in front of each other. I've never been a big fan
                                         
                                        of that. Like I've never said, hey, I'm going to be peeing, but you can come in and brush your teeth.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I'm not into that either.
                                         
                                        It isn't splash anywhere.
                                         
                                        It's fine.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's fine.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Anyway, so the idea is that, you know, this really does, can affect someone's choices.
                                         
                                        Think about jobs you would choose or traveling or not or dating, you know.
                                         
                                        And about a third of the people surveyed said they just absolutely avoid parties, sporting events, dating.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And about half limited the choice of the jobs that they would ultimately take.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So we've got this sort of anxiety element to it.
                                         
                                        It's a social anxiety kind of thing.
                                         
                                        Maybe you're not afraid to talk to somebody at a party or it's not like those types of social interactions.
                                         
                                        So it's not combined with that necessarily.
                                         
                                        You could have both if you're lucky.
                                         
                                        But this is really kind of this separate thing.
                                         
    
                                        So maybe can I quickly inject something?
                                         
                                        I just heard to me.
                                         
                                        I think I have, I think I can relate to this little more than I thought because there is this,
                                         
                                        there is this break in my head about if I'm in a room, okay, we're in a social situation.
                                         
                                        You're in a room.
                                         
                                        Everyone's talking and sharing stories and being very intelligent and communicative and all
                                         
                                        this stuff, right?
                                         
                                        Everyone's having a great time.
                                         
    
                                        And then you're like, hang on a second.
                                         
                                        I need to, you know, I need to use the boys room or whatever.
                                         
                                        And so you go in there and one of the people that was in the same group goes in there.
                                         
                                        And now the person you were just having a very intelligent, thoughtful conversation with
                                         
                                        is holding his ween-ween and letting water come out of it.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        Like, I realize the way I'm saying it is weird, but that's my point.
                                         
                                        It's kind of, it is a little weird.
                                         
    
                                        It's like this base human need matched with these, what we see is high-minded other parts
                                         
                                        of our personalities.
                                         
                                        And they, and that's a weird conflict.
                                         
                                        It's a weird, like, thing.
                                         
                                        So anyway, it's a part that we don't ever, like, want to think about one another or, yeah,
                                         
                                        It's just, it's, like, not happening, and then it's suddenly happening.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's why, you know, at TMS Vegas or back at Nerdtaculars, I was glad that they were, like,
                                         
                                        I could be aware of other bathrooms and wherever we were hanging out because it would be really
                                         
                                        weird to, like, be sitting there, oh, hey, Bobby Frankfurterbury, yeah, talking about science
                                         
                                        or talking about whatever.
                                         
                                        By the way, I got to go pee.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'll go with you.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm not sorry.
                                         
    
                                        You go on ahead.
                                         
                                        I'll wait until you're done.
                                         
                                        And here's a little secret about middle school girls.
                                         
                                        I don't know if you guys know this, then you shouldn't because you treat you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm sure we don't.
                                         
                                        I hope you don't.
                                         
                                        And that is, we like, as if I'm still one, I still want, I still do this, though, we,
                                         
                                        you would only go to the bathroom in a group, like you would always go together.
                                         
    
                                        And because you're chatting and you're talking.
                                         
                                        So there is a whole lot of key exposure in groups, maybe for, for girls in the sense of
                                         
                                        being in the bathroom, putting on makeup or something while somebody is peeing.
                                         
                                        So maybe there's a little more exposure there.
                                         
                                        For you guys, don't you paint a trough together?
                                         
                                        I mean, I feel like there's a plenty of exposure that way.
                                         
                                        Well, there wasn't high school.
                                         
                                        Not too often.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Let me speak first to the going in a group, the women going in a group thing.
                                         
                                        Is that so that if one of them is particularly noisy, it's like safety in numbers?
                                         
                                        You don't know if that was Melissa or Janet or Janelle or whoever.
                                         
                                        It's not.
                                         
                                        I don't think that it's the noise of that.
                                         
                                        I think it's more the collective.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        safety and not even consciously safety, but I think it's more about the social piece of like,
                                         
                                        okay, we can talk about what's happening out there in the bathroom.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God, because the men don't.
                                         
                                        That is like, it is like cone of silence, even if like, you know, like Scott says,
                                         
                                        you're just having this great conversation with somebody in the living room.
                                         
                                        You guys both feel, I guess people usually don't have two urinals next to each other in their house.
                                         
                                        But in the restaurant, you're having this chat about something.
                                         
                                        then you both go to the bathroom.
                                         
    
                                        It is like you have never met that person
                                         
                                        before as soon as you crossed the door.
                                         
                                        You could be the best of freaking friends
                                         
                                        and it still gets weird and quiet in there.
                                         
                                        So yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't think Scott and I have ever peed
                                         
                                        in the same bathroom at the same time.
                                         
                                        And I don't think we could.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think we could.
                                         
                                        You haven't lived.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm sorry you missed out on that ritual of young girls
                                         
                                        because it's very fun.
                                         
                                        I still do it.
                                         
                                        I don't think it's ever a pooping two stalls next to each other.
                                         
                                        I don't think it's ever a pooping behavior.
                                         
    
                                        It's usually just peeing.
                                         
                                        So it's like, even today I'll be with couples at dinner.
                                         
                                        I'm like, all right, ladies, who's coming to bathroom with me?
                                         
                                        Because you can talk about your stupid date, you know, or whatever.
                                         
                                        Okay, so that was a secret to the inner life of women historically.
                                         
                                        Anyway, okay, so here's the thing about what to do for this, because there is treatment
                                         
                                        and he does not have to go to a therapist for this unless he wants to.
                                         
                                        Are you guys ready to do your at home?
                                         
    
                                        This is a DIY.
                                         
                                        Surely there's a book you can link us to on Amazon.
                                         
                                        Definitely not.
                                         
                                        For a mere $20, take this P test.
                                         
                                        No, just kidding.
                                         
                                        My gosh.
                                         
                                        Go ahead.
                                         
                                        I'm just teasing.
                                         
    
                                        That would be now.
                                         
                                        Okay, so first of all, number one, as usual, you always have to say this with everything.
                                         
                                        You want to have a chat with your doctor to rule out any medical causes.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So that's just a basic.
                                         
                                        Did you say that was number one?
                                         
                                        Did I hear that right?
                                         
    
                                        Number one.
                                         
                                        Yeah, number one.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        See your physician.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Number one. I get it. Do you get a joke? Here we're going to go how you can treat this. Okay. I see what you did there. Yeah. The number one part was the P part. Yeah, I know. Your freaking dads today. Stop it. Okay. So. All right. So for example, if you have a lot of other social fears happening, then this is not going to help you. Okay. So that's the other caveat. So first of all, no medical underlying medical conditions. Number two,
                                         
                                        if this is your only deal, great, this will work.
                                         
                                        If you have lots of other social anxieties going on,
                                         
                                        it is part of a bigger system of things.
                                         
    
                                        And so don't do this on your own, okay?
                                         
                                        Does that make sense?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right, caveats out.
                                         
                                        Here we go.
                                         
                                        And also, there are people who will,
                                         
                                        behavioral therapists that can do specifically this type of work with you.
                                         
    
                                        But here's what you need.
                                         
                                        Okay, you need four things.
                                         
                                        Ready?
                                         
                                        A trusted friend or relative.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        at least one hour, twice per week to practice.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Geez.
                                         
    
                                        Paper and pen.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And access to locations where you can practice.
                                         
                                        Where you can practice.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So remember the spider thing.
                                         
    
                                        It's what, okay, let's just take the spider, for example.
                                         
                                        If I can put a spider in a cage and you can walk closer to it and relax and see that
                                         
                                        you're safe and be closer and closer to the spider, eventually maybe touch the spider.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And your nervous system is just learning that it's not going to kill you, right?
                                         
                                        But every time you run, I mean, Scott, we grew up with an innate fear of bees at our house.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Still have them.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I've got kids that I swear to you, I have behaved very calmly around bees, their whole lives.
                                         
                                        And it's like a genetic, I swear to they, they lose their minds when they see bees.
                                         
                                        And I blame mom who got attacked.
                                         
                                        by a swarm of bees with their beehive hairdo in the 60s
                                         
                                        that was full of, yeah, stunger.
                                         
                                        It stuck around became almost genetic since.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
    
                                        It's our family trauma.
                                         
                                        It's our generational trauma.
                                         
                                        Anyway, so that bee thing is it's exposing yourself, knowing you're safe, et cetera, right?
                                         
                                        That is the whole thing we're doing here.
                                         
                                        We're just going to expose the peeing in public and teaching your system that you are safe
                                         
                                        to do so, okay?
                                         
                                        because you might think, well, I don't feel unsafe, not like if a bee's coming at me.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        But you do.
                                         
                                        Like, there's some core, something underneath here that is like, this is not what we do.
                                         
                                        I can't do this, you know.
                                         
                                        And so even with someone like your girlfriend in the next room, you're having this, okay?
                                         
                                        So it's not that you're feeling like, oh, I'm going to be attacked if I pee.
                                         
                                        Now, obviously, if he was ever attacked while peeing, this would make a lot of sense.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But most people don't have.
                                         
    
                                        like very obvious specific traumas that develop this. It's typically they just start, you know,
                                         
                                        maybe they are in a location. Actually, I was thinking about this. If you've been anywhere and you've
                                         
                                        heard someone bearing down, as you guys put it, and you're, well, and there's no music. And you're
                                         
                                        in America, which happens the grossest bathrooms in the world with four inch gaps around every
                                         
                                        crack in a door. Like, what is wrong with us? I think parts of India would have an argument, but yes.
                                         
                                        that's true
                                         
                                        I saw some stuff in Hong Kong
                                         
                                        The second grossest bathrooms
                                         
    
                                        There we go
                                         
                                        Second grossest bathrooms
                                         
                                        Anyway point is
                                         
                                        You've experienced maybe some trauma
                                         
                                        And some bathrooms
                                         
                                        I'm just saying
                                         
                                        Where noise and other people
                                         
                                        And just like you have been in a position
                                         
    
                                        Of being grossed out by someone else
                                         
                                        So there's maybe some stuff there
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So gotcha
                                         
                                        All right now let's start with what you're going to do
                                         
                                        Step one
                                         
                                        You need this friend who's going to help
                                         
                                        okay and this person maybe girlfriend in this story will be present during early exposures to mimic
                                         
    
                                        the situations you would experience in public so if you're unable to find a partner you know
                                         
                                        just go to public places to do this but it would be nice if you know to start at home so step one
                                         
                                        would be him at home her in the other room or even in the same room or the door open just so he is
                                         
                                        fully aware that she's listening okay um and she knows this is happening by the way tell her
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        She needs to be involved.
                                         
                                        Give her, stand right here.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        Exposure therapy, she needs to know.
                                         
                                        She's part of this.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And now, number two,
                                         
                                        learn whether the urgency to urinate
                                         
                                        makes it more or less difficult
                                         
                                        for him to perform.
                                         
                                        So if he has to go really badly,
                                         
    
                                        see what happens.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And so meaning, like, take a drink a lot
                                         
                                        so that prior to your exposure session,
                                         
                                        because that's going to be helpful to you,
                                         
                                        and some people, if they have to go really badly, it doesn't matter, right?
                                         
                                        And that's really when you want to make sure you talk to a doctor.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        So drink a lot.
                                         
                                        So you really have to go before your first exposure session.
                                         
                                        You've got your girlfriend.
                                         
                                        You just drink a ton.
                                         
                                        It's time to go, right?
                                         
                                        And then you're going to make a list.
                                         
                                        This is what your paper and pen are for, okay?
                                         
                                        You're going to make a list of all the places that you find it difficult to use the restroom.
                                         
    
                                        All the locations or situations.
                                         
                                        So him going to the bathroom with a bunch of, you know, teenage girls, probably going to be one of those situations.
                                         
                                        Or him being at a baseball game or like where have these places been that are particularly difficult all the way down to, you know, obviously even at home could be tricky as long as the first of there.
                                         
                                        So locations and situations, you're going to make a list.
                                         
                                        And for each item on the list, you're going to assign it a value zero to 10.
                                         
                                        Zero being pretty easy because you're a home.
                                         
                                        10 being the absolute most difficult
                                         
                                        Sporting event trough
                                         
    
                                        Sporting stadium trough
                                         
                                        Is that still a thing if I go to like
                                         
                                        Jazz game or whatever they still have those troths I wonder
                                         
                                        It's been a while
                                         
                                        I haven't seen one in years so I don't know
                                         
                                        I don't know if that is still a thing
                                         
                                        You know it feels like in the age of COVID
                                         
                                        That's absolutely can't be a thing anymore
                                         
    
                                        It feels like it yeah
                                         
                                        I just it's been my high high school had them
                                         
                                        Brighton had these troths and it was awful
                                         
                                        I freaking hated it
                                         
                                        So I never peed there if I could help it, but anyway.
                                         
                                        Gross.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        So now you've got your list of locations and situations and you've ranked them.
                                         
                                        Zero to 10 on how hard they are to alleviate yourself.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Then you're going to begin with an item rated zero.
                                         
                                        So, or one, if you don't have any zeros.
                                         
                                        Urinating a home usually with a guest present.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So we're going to start with girlfriend.
                                         
    
                                        A guest.
                                         
                                        And, you know, and so what you're going to do is you're going to have your partner remain in the home.
                                         
                                        In the other room, well, it could be in the other room while you attempt to urinate.
                                         
                                        Let's start there.
                                         
                                        in the bathroom, in the other room, just like it's been difficult before.
                                         
                                        And then, if possible, allow yourself to pee for three seconds before stopping.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Because some of this is stop and go situation.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So really try to, you know, let yourself pee before stopping too quickly.
                                         
                                        But here's something really key.
                                         
                                        Do not spend more than four minutes trying to urinate.
                                         
                                        If it's not working, take a bake, take a break.
                                         
    
                                        Take a break and try again.
                                         
                                        Why four minutes?
                                         
                                        Why is that the number?
                                         
                                        Because, so what's happening?
                                         
                                        So exposure is interesting, right?
                                         
                                        So you can think about this in your own life.
                                         
                                        When you're trying something too much, like that pressure or forced need, you can actually
                                         
                                        make things more difficult, right?
                                         
    
                                        But it's sort of like, okay, that's a dumb example, but it's a perfect, like, mental
                                         
                                        thing in my head that I've experienced.
                                         
                                        So I get to a cliff to jump into water.
                                         
                                        I feel like that happens a lot, my life for some reason.
                                         
                                        But anyway, I'm on the edge of a cliff.
                                         
                                        Everyone's already jumped off.
                                         
                                        The kids, no one's dead.
                                         
                                        We're like, it's fun.
                                         
    
                                        We're all having fun.
                                         
                                        If I stand there too long, I will psych myself out and I cannot do it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But if I just, within a minute of like, whoa, all right, all right.
                                         
                                        And then I jump, then I can do it.
                                         
                                        So it's kind of a similar, like, more psyching out will happen.
                                         
                                        More mental behavior will occur.
                                         
                                        And you're going, and pressure to perform as,
                                         
    
                                        ultimately going to make it impossible, okay? So, no more than four minutes. So you could have
                                         
                                        a little timer or however you want to do that so you're just not in there too long, okay? So then
                                         
                                        take a break. And then sometimes moving back, a step in your hierarchy can help. So maybe it's
                                         
                                        that she goes to a different room in the house, right? Oh, move her just slightly one room away or
                                         
                                        something. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's say you can pee a little bit before stopping.
                                         
                                        but it stops, and then you can't continue.
                                         
                                        Then this is where you...
                                         
                                        Okay, so that's if it doesn't work at all.
                                         
    
                                        Take a break, move to something a little easier on your list, okay?
                                         
                                        But if it kind of works, but you can't fully finish,
                                         
                                        you know they're in the other room,
                                         
                                        and then walk out, have a three-minute break with your partner,
                                         
                                        chat, you're going to chat about this, probably, right?
                                         
                                        Have a little break, and then go back and try once again.
                                         
                                        So the key is to do your best not to use any,
                                         
                                        year old coping strategies right don't run the faucet or make noise some people do that right they'll
                                         
    
                                        run faucets and stuff to yeah yeah oh for sure yeah i've heard of that so i do and then i'm not going to
                                         
                                        tell you what i do but i like to plug my ears in public bathrooms because i don't want to hear anyone it's
                                         
                                        not about me oh it's the other it's the other way yeah and it doesn't even matter like they can
                                         
                                        have music it can be side it doesn't matter i will just kind of plug my but you guys don't have
                                         
                                        access to both your hands
                                         
                                        no well unless we're sitters like blah la la la and then i just leave because i just don't want to
                                         
                                        no no thank you but also like if a car is kind of swerving into our lane or is about to hit us or
                                         
                                        anything i also plug my ears so oh i'm a weirdo you are weird you've been doing that since
                                         
    
                                        fireworks when we're kids totally it's like if it doesn't if i can't hear it then it's not as
                                         
                                        bad yeah yep so anyway that's stupid so but that is a coping strategy if i were in this
                                         
                                        story, I would, I could not use that coping strategy. And then, you know, so he may have some
                                         
                                        things he's been doing. Like, maybe he flushes the toilet first or he runs the faucet or
                                         
                                        that's interesting because the, the natural inclination would be, well, oh, you've got a coping
                                         
                                        strategy. That's the thing to use. But you're saying, don't actually rely on that. It's too much
                                         
                                        approach. And that's why you're starting at your zero or your one level, not starting at
                                         
                                        your 10. So you're just slowly building up the capacity. Okay. So then you're going to just keep doing
                                         
    
                                        this alternating exposures and breaks for up to an hour. That sounds crazy. I know. People are like,
                                         
                                        I just won't go to baseball games. I'm like, okay, go for it. But it's an hour. So remember,
                                         
                                        you're only going to practice one hour twice a week. And let's be honest, if you can't go
                                         
                                        the full hour, it's still worth trying. Because an hour sounds really long to the time.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it does. But you haven't, you haven't peed. If you're struggling to pee, then
                                         
                                        And you're still need to.
                                         
                                        And you're only allowing yourself four minutes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Well, you're allowing yourself like three seconds.
                                         
                                        If it only works for three seconds, you still have plenty of urine and then you take your break and back.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So allow yourself to do this.
                                         
                                        So you have an hour to get through your bladder.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So then if the session is successful, then you move on to the next easiest item on your hierarchy list, right?
                                         
    
                                        And then practice this exposure in your next one.
                                         
                                        So if you do it twice a week, several times a week is better because you're just, I mean,
                                         
                                        you're practicing the other thing all the time.
                                         
                                        We just want you to practice the exposure version more and then eventually it just gets easier.
                                         
                                        It's like learning anything.
                                         
                                        The brain will just go, oh, yeah, I guess we could do it this way.
                                         
                                        Okay, we're going to, we'll be fine and can do that.
                                         
                                        So after about eight to 12 sessions of this, you should find your ability to urinate freely,
                                         
    
                                        really improved.
                                         
                                        So the goal, 15 to 20 is kind of ideal.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But you just see.
                                         
                                        You see where, you know, if it sounds like it's too much, start slowly.
                                         
                                        There are actually perioresis support groups you can connect with online.
                                         
                                        Oh, is that a, I didn't realize that would be.
                                         
                                        I guess there's something for everything online, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then relaxation techniques can work, some CBT, which is cognitive behavioral therapy or, you know, working with any other.
                                         
                                        kinds of anxiety that you're struggling with can be be helpful but this is like if this was
                                         
                                        uniquely what's going on for you that that would be kind of the steps you would take yeah so it sounds
                                         
                                        to me like it's it's a template for other stuff though too like this exposure therapy idea is
                                         
                                        pretty broad right the ramping up from zero to 10 i feel like you could use for a lot of different
                                         
    
                                        things yes yes and let me let's be clear when you are already at a 10 panic for everything in your
                                         
                                        life. Exposure therapy on your own. No, no, no, no, no. Because you will not have enough
                                         
                                        in place to handle it. But when you're working with someone and, you know, they can guide you with
                                         
                                        that. But even if you did, I mean, I think of a common young people these days problem or
                                         
                                        challenge is just communicating verbally face-to-face with people they don't know or in a job
                                         
                                        interview you know like that's it there's a challenge there that's always been there with young people
                                         
                                        because they didn't have a lot of experience but i would say kids even more now because well COVID
                                         
                                        for one but also just the it's just easy to apply online or send a text or some other way
                                         
    
                                        and so they can get really freaked out to the point that they cannot speak to somebody yeah um
                                         
                                        and that is going to limit a lot of things in their life and so this kind of exposure
                                         
                                        Let's say there's nothing else going on.
                                         
                                        You're just kind of struggling with like, oh, I just cannot make that phone call or, oh, my gosh, the fact that I would have to go talk to this person face-to-face is killing me, you know, is to just practice some very small step exposure therapy.
                                         
                                        So you have a list and maybe talking to the librarian about a book you want is a two or a one and just practice doing that, right?
                                         
                                        And so all human learning is, is practice.
                                         
                                        It's doing a thing, it's being exposed to a thing and doing a thing and doing it
                                         
                                        repetitively until you figure it out.
                                         
    
                                        Anxiety just has this special role, which is to keep us from doing stupid things that
                                         
                                        kill us, and yet it doesn't, it's not honed in enough to know what all the things
                                         
                                        that will actually kill us, but it knows you're nervous.
                                         
                                        So it must be somewhat dangerous.
                                         
                                        So then avoidance will just confirm.
                                         
                                        to your system that that is deadly and scary.
                                         
                                        Don't do that.
                                         
                                        And it gets really hard to move past that.
                                         
    
                                        If you're going to do your second stage exposure therapy to like a public
                                         
                                        bathroom at a baseball part.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Do you have to let somebody know like in management?
                                         
                                        Like I'm going to be in here an hour.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        They're not going to look weird.
                                         
                                        You shouldn't have to.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        There are people in bathrooms at baseball games for hours all the time.
                                         
                                        That's not.
                                         
                                        That is normal.
                                         
                                        And that's really like, you know, you'll work up to, I mean, if that's an eight for
                                         
                                        him, you know, he's got other levels. He has to work up before that. So by the time he gets
                                         
                                        to a baseball diamond, he will have more internal resources to draw from not the old coping
                                         
                                        strategies or the avoidance, right? And so it's going to, maybe it's going to be difficult,
                                         
    
                                        but it won't be zero to eight. It will be seven to eight. And, you know, and some of this will
                                         
                                        just resolve itself. I mean, you're doing this 15 to 20 weeks. That is a good amount of
                                         
                                        time. Yeah. And so the question really becomes, and this is the one question he didn't answer,
                                         
                                        which is how motivated is he to get rid of this. Yeah. Because it's going to take,
                                         
                                        it's taken work to get there, work that you didn't realize was work because it just came
                                         
                                        naturally. But it will take, it'll take concerted effort to have it change.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Well, it sounds like, I don't know, it's right. Part of the reason I wanted to read this
                                         
                                        email today is because it's a weird, it's a kind of exposure to therapy for us to talk about it
                                         
    
                                        in these terms, you know, to make it less of this, oh, it's my private taboo time where, you know,
                                         
                                        I'm embarrassed to pee in public or whatever. And we, you know, let's give it a little sunlight. Let's talk
                                         
                                        about it, you know, give you some ideas. Hopefully you can come back and, and show us some
                                         
                                        improvement. I think that would be awesome. So let us know. Keep us informed. And thanks for sharing
                                         
                                        it because it's, I mean, it really is just, I mean, we all do it. Yep. Everyone pees, right? Everybody
                                         
                                        pees. There's a whole lot of tears while they pee. It's fine. And it's funny. It's a built in
                                         
                                        when they're young. Like that story I told a van not two weeks ago because he's, he's in the throes of
                                         
                                        potty training. It's all going great.
                                         
    
                                        but he was in he was here at the house i don't think you were here so i'll tell you the story real quick
                                         
                                        he was here at the house and he goes nana i need to go potty so kim's like all right let's go and he
                                         
                                        runs in the bathroom the doors open he she's in there with him because you know that's what they're
                                         
                                        used to at first mom or grandma or whatever so i go in there or i come around the corner i peek around
                                         
                                        the corner i go hey i'm just excited for him right it's like hey and he goes hey go away he said
                                         
                                        And I didn't expect, A, that kind of attitude out of a three-year-old, but B, it made me realize, oh, yeah, this is like a private thing and you don't need to be giving him an audience and let him, he's already probably, you know, it's all very confusing and doesn't really understand why adults do this and all of that.
                                         
                                        So, you know.
                                         
                                        Well, and if you think of it from a biological perspective, when are you the most vulnerable for an animal attack or a bee getting in you in the bum?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's then.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I've seen a lot of hormones.
                                         
                                        movies where the slasher's out loose in the woods and the dumb teenager goes to take
                                         
                                        a pee behind a log and then boom you're dead yeah that's why it it scares us right like
                                         
                                        there is some just survival and so anxiety has every reason to be there it just shouldn't
                                         
                                        run the show I agree and so this exposure just helps you realize like okay I'm not in a
                                         
                                        horror movie I'm not in the you know 1400s I am just at a
                                         
    
                                        fun baseball game. I mean, that's an oxymoron for a lot of you. But, um, and I just, I, right,
                                         
                                        I'm actually really safe and fine. And, and, but that, that very old system is like, are you sure?
                                         
                                        Are you sure? I don't know. I don't know. You've run away from this for a long time.
                                         
                                        So this can't be good. So we're just going to train it that it's perfectly okay to relax.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And yeah, but you got to do it slow. And, and again, the caveats, I've repeated,
                                         
                                        three times. Just make sure there's no medical problems. And then if there's other things going
                                         
                                        on, you're going to want to talk to someone and have them help guide you through this just because
                                         
                                        it's... Yeah. Plus, the therapy thing never hurts, you know?
                                         
    
                                        Never usually hurts. Well, never usually hurts. Sometimes hurts. But then you get a new one and then it
                                         
                                        hurts less and then fine. Totally, totally, totally. Yeah. By the way, did you happen to see John Oliver's
                                         
                                        last week tonight? No, I've been behind. Mental, mental health? Yes. Yes. I made Tina watch
                                         
                                        obviously for her job, but
                                         
                                        was it good?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was very interesting, yeah.
                                         
                                        I miss.
                                         
                                        What's interesting is I went to Sweden and I looked at their system and I just thought
                                         
    
                                        you guys don't have enough people.
                                         
                                        They have the right sort of single payer system that could do it and people could afford it
                                         
                                        and access it.
                                         
                                        They just don't have enough people and the training is so difficult there.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's like a five-year program, you know, I mean, it's intense.
                                         
                                        That's not licensing.
                                         
                                        That's just the schooling.
                                         
                                        Just the school.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, it's really intense.
                                         
                                        And then, you know, it just means there's not as much access.
                                         
                                        So I remember being there just being like, you guys got to stip it up.
                                         
                                        And then I watched that and I was like, oh, I know, I know.
                                         
                                        We're the worst.
                                         
                                        We have weird toilets and.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Anyway, you should watch and be depressed with the rest of us.
                                         
    
                                        You should make a book.
                                         
                                        We have weird toilets and dot, dot, dot.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        All my criticisms.
                                         
                                        That's pretty good.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Well, as always, a pleasure hanging out and talking.
                                         
                                        And we hope this makes a difference.
                                         
    
                                        for not just that person, but many of you out there who might be having a shy guy bladder.
                                         
                                        You'll find your way.
                                         
                                        Just expose yourself and you're good.
                                         
                                        Nope, that's not the lesson.
                                         
                                        Never mind.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And so next week, I will not be here, but everyone, take your test.
                                         
                                        I do not get any money from it.
                                         
                                        I wish I did, but I do not.
                                         
                                        But it would be really fun because we're going to go through some steps of how to make a strength more strengthy.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        I'm down with that.
                                         
                                        I need some strengthy strengths.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Well, have fun at whatever you're doing next week.
                                         
                                        And we'll see you next time.
                                         
                                        Bye now.
                                         
                                        See you.
                                         
                                        Bye now.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        That'll do it for Wendy's time with us today.
                                         
    
                                        And it'll also do it for us.
                                         
                                        I would like to remind you all, though.
                                         
                                        We've got a few things coming up like today at Coverville, 1 p.m. Mountain time.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        1.1.
                                         
                                        Why do I always say 1.30 with you?
                                         
                                        I don't know why I do that.
                                         
                                        You really want me to do it at 1.30.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not going to change for you.
                                         
                                        No, don't change it.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to do it.
                                         
                                        Don't ever.
                                         
                                        do it because I've just got it in my head wrong.
                                         
                                        So that's today.
                                         
                                        Then later, Core, 5 p.m.
                                         
                                        Tonight, an episode of Core with me,
                                         
    
                                        John and Bo. Lots to talk about there.
                                         
                                        We found out this week that Blizzard had a three years
                                         
                                        in development mobile wow game
                                         
                                        that was like a full-blown
                                         
                                        MMO, but in mobile
                                         
                                        form that just got canceled.
                                         
                                        And it got canceled because
                                         
                                        apparently some sort of big financial
                                         
    
                                        dispute between them and net ease, who was
                                         
                                        their partner in this thing to get worldwide distribution.
                                         
                                        So we'll talk
                                         
                                        that and much more in the world of games tonight on core five o'clock mountain if you want to watch
                                         
                                        it live or check out the podcast wherever you get it uh couch party on uh friday for patrons we are watching
                                         
                                        mad max fury road there you go let's just let's just rip this bandaid off we knew who's coming
                                         
                                        i'm so excited i can't freaking wait to watch this with you guys so yeah that's uh that's our
                                         
                                        couch party details will be in the patreon for those patrons going what about our other
                                         
    
                                        audio content that we need.
                                         
                                        I'm with you.
                                         
                                        We're coming.
                                         
                                        I'll come up with something.
                                         
                                        We're working on it.
                                         
                                        We're working on it.
                                         
                                        We're working on it.
                                         
                                        I promise.
                                         
    
                                        Okay?
                                         
                                        I really do mean it.
                                         
                                        We're going to do something.
                                         
                                        But yeah, couch party, Friday, 3 p.m.
                                         
                                        Be there.
                                         
                                        Details in the Patreon.
                                         
                                        FilmSack this weekend.
                                         
                                        We're doing not Fury Road for FilmSack.
                                         
    
                                        I wrote that in the wrong place.
                                         
                                        I didn't want to change.
                                         
                                        I was like, let's see if he says it.
                                         
                                        It's FilmSack Fury Road.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I didn't want to screw that up.
                                         
                                        We're doing the born supremacy.
                                         
                                        The born.
                                         
                                        Supremacy. Our goal to watch all the Borns and all the transporters continues for our hot movie action summer.
                                         
    
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                                        Is it probably Sean?
                                         
    
                                        C-I-N.
                                         
                                        I think C-I-N is pronounced Sean, but I could be wrong.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's a cool spelling of Sean.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        Is that an Irish thing?
                                         
                                        Claire, is that an Irish thing?
                                         
                                        Claire, clarify it for us.
                                         
                                        I've never heard of it in me life.
                                         
    
                                        Congratulations on here.
                                         
                                        She got her house, I guess, so she's good.
                                         
                                        her mortgage.
                                         
                                        Oh, very good.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Congratulations, Claire.
                                         
                                        Tell Jack he can suck it.
                                         
                                        All right, moving on.
                                         
    
                                        Exactly.
                                         
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                                        That'll do it for us today.
                                         
                                        We got to play a song, though.
                                         
                                        Do you have one there?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I do.
                                         
                                        Mario Pyrtoni, Piero and Tony sent in this one.
                                         
    
                                        Hi, Skull and Brain.
                                         
                                        Recently, you guys mentioned Tina Marie and a song of hers with Crush in the title.
                                         
                                        It immediately reminded me of a song by the Jets called Crush on You.
                                         
                                        By the way, Scott, if I remember correctly, they're from Salt Lake City.
                                         
                                        Utah Connection.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're actually from West Valley.
                                         
                                        And I think most of their family is still even there.
                                         
                                        Or maybe even the band still lives there.
                                         
    
                                        But, you know, they're big for a while, real big.
                                         
                                        Cool.
                                         
                                        By the way, C-I-A-N, we're getting corrections, is pronounced Kean.
                                         
                                        Oh, Kean.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Kean.
                                         
                                        So, like, if, you know, the guy from Peeky Blinders is,
                                         
                                        uh, obviously he's not.
                                         
    
                                        but his, but it's also like a hard, a hard sea as opposed to a soft sea.
                                         
                                        So it's Killian Murphy, right?
                                         
                                        Killian Murphy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I've always said Killian and everyone always tells me it's Sillion, but no, I think it's
                                         
                                        Killian.
                                         
                                        No, it's Killian.
                                         
                                        It absolutely is Killian Murphy.
                                         
                                        Love that guy.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Anyway, about a decade ago, Nero made a cover of the song Crush on You, and I really
                                         
                                        liked it back in the day.
                                         
                                        It's somewhere between EDM, dubstep, and synthwave.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        There's no specific date for the song.
                                         
                                        Whenever you've got an open spot, I happen to have an open spot.
                                         
                                        I happen to have an open spot today.
                                         
    
                                        Greetings from Antwer, Belgium, Mario Pierre Antoni.
                                         
                                        P.S. Can I get Daryl calling you guys sparkly?
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        Let me pull that up.
                                         
                                        By the way, Daryl, I think, I feel like I've been, I've been following Daryl's back and forth
                                         
                                        on Trek stuff lately.
                                         
                                        I think he might be, he might be full.
                                         
                                        I don't care about Trek.
                                         
    
                                        I only care about Orville now.
                                         
                                        Is he now the Orville nerd?
                                         
                                        Oh, he loves it.
                                         
                                        He's all he talks about is the Orville.
                                         
                                        He talks about how.
                                         
                                        they get all this stuff right and Star Trek doesn't like he's just like gone complete orville
                                         
                                        on it wow all right but that's okay it's fine it's fine you like what you like but how is he what's
                                         
                                        he going to do about his screen name his uh his Twitter handle yeah exactly um here it is by the way
                                         
    
                                        I'll play it you guys sound kind of sparkly he was naked that day I want to point out yeah he was
                                         
                                        calling us from his bed where he was naked what's this thing hold on everything is sparkly
                                         
                                        Oh, that's Bo doing it. Totally separate.
                                         
                                        Anyway, there you go, dude. Enjoy.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Cool.
                                         
                                        All right. How about this cover right here? This is a crush on you, originally by the Jets.
                                         
                                        By a band called Nero. This one comes from their 2011 album called Welcome Reality.
                                         
                                        After I heard this cover, I listened to the rest of the album, and it's all really, really good.
                                         
    
                                        It's very different from the kind of stuff we normally play at the end of TMS. But I totally dig it, and I'm hoping you guys all.
                                         
                                        I'll like it, too, because it does have a lot of dubstep.
                                         
                                        Blom, ma'am, ma'am, b'am, b'am, b'am, stuff in it.
                                         
                                        So, hope you all enjoy that.
                                         
                                        Here is Nero and Crush on You.
                                         
                                        That's all right.
                                         
                                        And we'll see you Monday for all the other normal things.
                                         
                                        Okay, everybody, have a good weekend.
                                         
    
                                        We'll see you then.
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        Because I never told.
                                         
                                        You found out, I've got a crush on you.
                                         
                                        No, wash your wands.
                                         
                                        My husband is played.
                                         
                                        You found out.
                                         
                                        I've got a crush on you.
                                         
    
                                        How did you know? Because I never told. You found out. I've got a crush on you.
                                         
                                        No wash your raise. My heart's been displayed. You found out. I've got it crush, crush, crush, crush, crush.
                                         
                                        How did you know? Because I never told. You found out. I've got a crush on you.
                                         
                                        No wash your raise. My heart's been displaced. You found out. I've got a crush on you.
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        Because I never told
                                         
                                        We found out
                                         
                                        I've got to crush on you
                                         
    
                                        So what's your rain
                                         
                                        My heart's in his brain
                                         
                                        You found out
                                         
                                        I've got to crush, crush, crush, crush
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        We found out
                                         
                                        How did you
                                         
                                        We found out
                                         
    
                                        I've got to crush on you
                                         
                                        How did you
                                         
                                        How did you...
                                         
                                        I've got to crush, crush, crush, crush, crush.
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        Because I never told.
                                         
                                        You found out.
                                         
                                        I've got a crush on you.
                                         
    
                                        No washer is.
                                         
                                        My heart's in displace.
                                         
                                        You found out.
                                         
                                        I've got a crush on you.
                                         
                                        We're
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        How did you know? Because I never told. We found out.
                                         
    
                                        I've got a crush on you
                                         
                                        No, what's your reins
                                         
                                        My heart's been displayed
                                         
                                        You found out
                                         
                                        I've got a crush on you
                                         
                                        How did you know
                                         
                                        Because I never told
                                         
                                        You found out
                                         
    
                                        I've got a crush on you
                                         
                                        No was your red
                                         
                                        My heart's been displayed
                                         
                                        You found out
                                         
                                        I've got a crush on you
                                         
                                        You must have heard it
                                         
                                        From my best friend
                                         
                                        She's always talking when she should be listening
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's a secret to save her life
                                         
                                        But still I just hid her with all I felt besides
                                         
                                        I never knew a rumor that spread so fast
                                         
                                        Because now the word is all over town
                                         
                                        That I'm running for you
                                         
                                        How did you know
                                         
                                        We found out
                                         
                                        How did you
                                         
    
                                        We found out
                                         
                                        I've got to crush on you
                                         
                                        How did you?
                                         
                                        How did you?
                                         
                                        How did you?
                                         
                                        I've got to crush, crush, crush, crush
                                         
                                        How did you?
                                         
                                        What did you found out?
                                         
    
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        We found out.
                                         
                                        How did you know?
                                         
                                        Because I never told you.
                                         
                                        We're found out.
                                         
                                        My God crush on you.
                                         
                                        No much over the end.
                                         
                                        My heart is saying.
                                         
    
                                        You found out.
                                         
                                        A crush on you.
                                         
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