The Morning Stream - TMS 2342: Aggressively Italian

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

G to the Double O D Morning to ya! Your Uncle Tony is My Uncle Tony. He was watching your dot. You ORDERED it! Googly eye butt. Weird Potato Business. Robut Captain. Whales Spittin' Their Holes. Do yo...ur thing in the cabin. Donny Thinks Trackers! You Can See Whales for Free, Man. My Eyes are Back Here! Satisfactory?!? with Bill. Shotgunning vaccines with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:25 That's BOMBAS.com and use code audio at checkout. Coming up on TMS, G to the 00D morning to you. Your uncle Tony is my uncle Tony. He was watching your dot. You ordered it. Googly eye butt. Weird potato business.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Robot captain. Whales spitting their holes. Do your thing in the cabin. Donnie thinks trackers. You can see whales for free, man. Hey, my eyes are back here. Satisfactory? With Bill.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Shotgunning vaccines with Bobby and more on the episode of the morning stream. I've been told that my resting smell is a combination of talc, icy hot, and carnival hot dog water. Previously, this unique scent was only available to those who accidentally brushed up against me on the subway. Situation number three. Stop tape for discussion. Mountain grown for richer flavor. This is the morning stream. Good morning, and welcome back to TMS.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's the morning stream for Tuesday, September 6, 2022. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi. Hi. Hello. Hi. Seven days later, and the show exists again.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Boom. More than seven days, because really, you know, it was a Thursday. So we missed a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah, that's a lot. 11 days. 11 days, it's without these people. And hearing your voice, Scott, I don't think this is, I know, we never leave each other's heads.
Starting point is 00:02:15 But this is, I think, first time this amount of time has passed. I don't think we've ever gone 11 days. That's never happened. I wonder, well, this time last year when I was in Ireland, I think we probably missed, we missed 11 days. Oh, that's true. We're both there, yeah. but like dead dead air neither of us got 11 days oh that's true right because you did you
Starting point is 00:02:34 i think you did shows well while i was in ireland yeah i kept the flames here we go i was hanging out with claire we're eating some some boxy some bangers and rashers and some kind of weird potato business right exactly because you're in ireland that's what you do uh have i got back from a whirlwind trip to alaska and beyond spent some time in Canada and some international waters business I didn't know the ship had a casino I guess they all do right that's the thing they all do I had no idea yeah in fact I didn't really know until like day three I was just wondering and I was like oh shit there's a whole like mini Vegas down here there is it's really yeah and it's I don't know how finely tuned to their machines are I don't know if the federal gaming commission gets to pop on there and make sure that things are all set at 98% payout but uh Oh, yeah, good question. It wasn't ever full, and they did, they were real big on teaching people how to play, like come play blackjack and learn from the best.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Sure, craps. Yeah, I'm sure. Like, that's probably me and another life is a cruise ship craps instructor. Oh, man. Did your retirement's cut out for you? You're all set. No kidding. I can totally do that. Yeah, you absolutely could do that. I can probably podcast from there. Perfect. You know more about how to do it than I do. But anyway, I went on this trip. It was on the Discovery Princess or the Princess. Discovery was the name of the damn ship. 3,500 people went to Alaska, a bunch of places in there. And I had a bunch of stories come from this event. And, you know, I got to thinking it's going to take too much airtime to try to explain all
Starting point is 00:04:13 these stories or too many days of spreading it out. So what I decided to do was bring you a semi sort of checklist version of what went down. A little bit, a little bit. Okay, all right. We'll see how this goes. I don't actually know how this is going to go, but we're going to give it a shot. I brought some theme music for it. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I mean, I honestly, you know, because listen to that. I don't think the folks listen to this show would be like, oh, I hope he, I hope they don't tell us a whole bunch of stories about the cruise where weird things happened. I hope he boils it down to little sound bites. Yeah, they did. I think they do want to know how things went. For sure. I want to know. Just as an amazing instrumental.
Starting point is 00:04:56 National Enquirer. That's right. Listen to this. Oh, exciting and new. All right. That's not just for Fluff. I also watched about 20 episodes of the Love Boat on the boat. Because on every Princess Cruise, they have a closed circuit TV sort of system where they do some live stuff via satellite, but mostly it's on-demand content.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Sure. and they have a whole TV series section and at the top of the TV series section up front and center are old episodes of the love boat and it's not all of them it's kind of a mishmash of a bunch episodes kind of scoched in all together
Starting point is 00:05:40 but there's a ton of them and for whatever reason at night when we were back in the cabin Kim and I would fire up the love boat and watch the love boat there is something to that about the watching the TV show about a cruise ship
Starting point is 00:05:56 when you're on that cruise ship ship. I wonder if the Motel 6 in Albuquerque has a and all you can watch Breaking Bad Channel. Oh, that'd be a, oh my gosh, can you imagine? That'd be incredible. I would sit there all day and watch that. Yeah. So here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:06:10 We're on this boat, right? And we got, we got that thing going. And I decided to make notes throughout the days. Like, oh, a weird thing happened. I'll pull up my phone, beep, boop, put in what I saw. Save it for later. And you're right. You do have to.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You're going to forget this stuff. You're going to forget, yeah. So here I present you with a list of things that happen to make on the ship in as short order as possible, all right? Question. Yeah. Me in the front. If at any time during this checklist, I want to know more. Are you prepared to tell us more?
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'm prepared to tell you anything you want to hear. Okay, good. All right, good. And in a couple of cases, I will give brief introductions and then very short stories. I will try to keep this interesting. This is not a travel log. I freaking hate those. I'm going to give you guys the real highlights of the weirdness.
Starting point is 00:07:03 8 a.m. Let down to the breakfast buffet had two sausages. You're not too far from the truth. Dry eggs. There's some real truth to that. So, all right. So before I get to any of it, just an overall, had a great time.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Kim and I had a blast, relaxed. Mostly, the big takeaway is I chilled a lot, sat on deck chairs. It was fall weather. the whole time. So like 55 to 60 degrees everywhere. It was never hot, beautiful, freaking Viking-like vistas of rocky weird beaches and ancient forests and just trippy shit all the way up and down that coast over there.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And some open sea business where Kim got super seasick, but more on that later. Anyway, so that's the overall, all right? I can't believe it was twice as many degrees where I was at than what. where you were at twice as many degrees. I know. I got home. I got home. It was 104 here.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And I went, what? Wait, what? Where did we? I don't understand how it's that different. Like even Seattle was only like 60 all day. Yeah. Totally weird.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Anyway. All right. So here's number one. The process of getting in there, total end times. Like nightmarish. I didn't know about this part. The part of where you go from the airport, by the way,
Starting point is 00:08:23 which we left for at 3 a.m. here. Get to the airport. Flights not till 7, but there's reasons why we had to do it at 3, or get up at 3. Anyway, we get there by 5, leaves by 7. Early morning travel, I freaking hate it, whatever. That's fine. We get to Seattle.
Starting point is 00:08:39 No problem. Get off on that Tacoma airport. Kind of tiny and rinky-dank, just saying, maybe it's because we have a brand new huge one and you guys have a big one. We're a little picky out here in the west with our giant airports. All right, but that Tacoma Seattle airport is C-TEC. A little tiny thing. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:08:55 that was fine uh we go to the ship the dock there go on a lift ride oh i got a lift question for you okay all right so we have a lift guy's name is Javier or something like that sure and uh he has we have two giant bags and two two small bags and the giant bags everyone's got key okay this is the other thing i notice everybody driving lift at least in seattle maybe the whole world i don't know everybody except brian i guess i swear they're all driving uh the Toyota Priuses all Priuses all the time. Oh, really. Oh, interesting. I wonder if that's, here in Denver, if you don't have your own car, they'll rent you a Kia Nero. And so you see a lot of Lyft drivers driving Kia Niro's. And I wonder if they do a thing out there with Toyota Prius or something.
Starting point is 00:09:39 They might, because there was so, every time we'd call one or do one or need one, which wasn't that much, but when we did it, it was always like a ton of Priuses. My uncle Tony drives for Lyft in the Los Angeles area, and he drives a Toyota Prius. Oh my gosh. Your Uncle Tony is basically my uncle Tony who by the way lived in Denver until he died so pretty funny oh wow weird yeah anyway uh so that place going to that dock and getting all situated to get on the boat yeah that's a cluster dude that's a freaking nightmare of people hurting and i was like if this is what the whole cruise is like we have made a terrible air in our lives so many lines it's like okay you're out of this line we're going to split this line into four other lines and you know
Starting point is 00:10:19 you're going to have another line to go through to check your passport it was so bad And it was like, you know, every other person was in Nebraska and it's hard to get around. And I'm happy to report Kim and I are like seriously in the youngest group on the ship. We are among the youngest people there. We felt like children compared to some of the 4,000-year-old people that were there. Anyway, so that's all out of the way. Ladies singing in public at dinner, don't do that. Don't, don't just pipe up.
Starting point is 00:10:50 We're at one of the fancy dinners and this lady all of a sudden one night just starts, It's going, Passenger? Yes, some passenger just starts singing right next to me. And her husband's at her going, like, looking at her. Like, maybe this is their thing? Yeah. Do your thing in the cabin.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Don't do it in front of me. That's weird. No, but they want, she wants everyone to watch. That's their thing. That is their thing. That is a public. I'm turned on when I do it in public and people can watch. What does she sing?
Starting point is 00:11:18 It wasn't even a happy birthday. It was like, something foreign. Because that's really, it's barely allow. for somebody to sing happy birthday if they're not surrounded by the TGI Friday's crew anyway yeah to sing it solo but any other song what you're just I know you're just you're vamping you're doing what I don't know what you're doing and they did they they sang we didn't happen to it to us because I think it sucks to do this but they they sing happy anniversary to people here's how they'd sing a whole group of would sing happy versory to you so that was great anyway lady don't do that
Starting point is 00:11:52 All right, guy with government tracking concerns while wearing a tracker. So if you're on Princess Cruise Lines, you get a medallion. The medallion is this little princess logo, just like the one they stooping had on his ship, same logo. And you put it a little watch or hang it around your neck, however you want to do it. It's just basically it's one of those Apple Air tags is kind of what it is. Yeah, right. But it tells, like if you're going to order something or if you're in a room or you've got to get off the ship, on the ship, whatever, you're constantly scanning these tags. Like your RFID.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yes, it totally has that because as I walked toward my room, it doesn't even make me hold it up to it. It just knows you're coming and unlocks. Oh, geez. So it's kind of cool. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we've got, I've got Johnson.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I've got him pin down. Just drag him over by his room. All right. It opened the door automatically for him. Yeah. I mean, it didn't, you know, it crossed my mind that these things were all true. But this is apparent, this is their thing. This is Princess's big thing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 That is really, that is really cool. like as little touching of things as possible. Yeah, absolutely. I like that. Anyway, so that thing's going and it's happening. But this guy was just completely unselfaware, sitting on the deck, day one, talking about how the government's tracking him. And he doesn't trust the government this and government that. They're watching this now.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They're probably drones trained on me right now as I'm saying all of this. Meanwhile, he's like, stops the middle of it goes, oh, I'll have a bloody Mary and holds up his freaking tracker ring to the thing. is like dude you're wearing a tracker all right so there's that guy Edward I want to call out this dude named Edward he is the bomb he was in charge of our row of cabins like he was the guy
Starting point is 00:13:30 that would just you know get your rooms ready while you were gone or whatever nice that dude magic just in your he knew when if we went to breakfast he knew we were gone and he would go and just do the most amazing job we'd come back it was done not magic
Starting point is 00:13:45 blackers yeah only things trackers He was great. It may have been trackers. He watches your little red dot leave the, like he's, he's watching his little heads-up display as he's cleaning room 14-07. And he sees the little red dot. Ah, the Johnson's leave it. Dool-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. And he goes over. Yep. I would not be surprised, actually, if that's how that worked. Because he was so efficient. At any point? Did he take a T-shirt that you happen to leave on the bed and twist it into the shape of a swan? No, that never happened. Darn it. We did leave him a tip on the last day, though, even though they told us. Oh, yeah, you have to. That's a, I try to remember to tip in hotels, but you never forget to tip everything on a cruise ship.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, in the ship, they don't remind you to. So they won't let you, this particular cruise, they won't let you tip. You pay ahead of time on tips. Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So what we did is, so if you offered somebody a couple of bucks, they'd have to turn it down then. And they did.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We tried a couple times. But at the very end, you can get away with tip in your room guy. which is what we did. So anyway, yeah, that worked out well. All right, so that was cool. Internet sucked. It's really bad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's terrible. We paid it extra 65 bucks. Who knew? Out in the middle of the ocean. Oh, it was so bad, though. I mean, like, I expected internet, like, satellite speeds or something? No. Don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Terrible. Terrible. It's like dial-up speed is what it is. If not even that, it was so. I did speed test. It wouldn't even register half the time. It was so, so bad. Speed test page comes up.
Starting point is 00:15:16 box with a little question mark in the middle of it yeah it was enough to get a few get a text here and there you know but that was about it if you want to do videos or photos you had to wait for a port and then 5g was fine in alaska on ports and stuff so that's fine anyway that really really was bad and the reason's bad is if it was for free for everybody fine yeah yeah it's extra 65 bucks per person yeah yeah off with that noise per per person or per device per device yeah right i guess you can do you can do all right let's get it from my phone then I'll just do personal hotspot and share that out to my iPad or Kim's phone or whatever. Which we tried and it never worked because the signal was so bad.
Starting point is 00:15:55 It wouldn't even do a hotspot. They're like, there's no hotspots. You're sharing a Xerox copy of a Xerox copy of bandwidth. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. So it was terrible. I won't say any good things about it. Pretty sure the captain didn't actually exist and everything's run by robots.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Because we heard him on the thing. This is your captain. We're seeing something in the sky with the thing and the deal and the world. whales will be off to the right and all that and he was always saying things and we had a lot of fogs so it was like all the time this is your captain we'll be doing the fog and you know all that so that was happening uh but i never saw the guy in fact we even had dinner two nights in a row right where it's supposed to be the captain's table uh-huh never saw
Starting point is 00:16:36 no never saw um wow was there most of the night a couple those nights never saw the captain i saw that photo on twitter that is a high looking it's a high tech looking captain's table Like it's, you know, it does look like it's from the enterprise. It was really nice. The advantages of a brand new boater were clear everywhere. It was really nice. Super clean. I don't know if they're still doing this everywhere,
Starting point is 00:16:57 but this particular princess lines makes you, you have to have VAC status cards, booster status. Yeah. They have stations, like, probably on-demand testing or anything? Oh, I don't know if they had that. You had to test three days ahead of time, clean. We never had a breakout or at least not one announced.
Starting point is 00:17:15 They're supposed to announce it if you'd. do or an outbreak breakout whatever outbreak no one had zits um but uh that's so that never happened but they're also just like fastidiously clean just little dudes running around constantly wiping down everything um when you'd walk into the buffet there were literally i don't know five or six sinks with soap like full on water sinks uh nice not just like a little hand sanitizer yeah and then you just move on but like wash your hands before you touch anything is crazy um good their their toilets are all right all, I feel like I've now been in an airplane toilet because they're all really tiny.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Oh, I thought you just didn't like airplane toilets. You'd never been in an airplane toilet? No, I've never been in months. I've only seen in a movie. I don't even know what they're like. No idea. Oh, movies make them look cavernous compared to the real thing. Like, basically, I have to, I have to take off all my clothes and grease up to turn around in one of those. Well, I still, there was a moment on the Seattle home flight. I thought I had to pee, but I held it and I didn't go in there. I held it until I got there. All right. I feel like there's a little streak broken right there. All right, good.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Oh, speaking of streaks broken. Yeah. I had, well, it's still international. So technically it's the same broken streak as Mexico. Yeah, no, this is a different streak because this is a, yeah, I'll say why it's a different street. All right. So we were in international waters and I decided to try a mojit, not mojito.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Wait. What's the one with, you told me a mojito, but. I think that's right. So one with, with mint and. uh yes yeah lime drink okay uh i had one of those and it was really good yeah i liked it a lot except i don't think they put much alcohol in it i think it just tasted like you know i don't think they went yeah you didn't you didn't feel all uh silly afterwards i feel anything no it was like plus it just didn't taste it so so i had a mojito now brian why is that not still i mean i think
Starting point is 00:19:08 it breaks a it breaks an international water streak but whatever international i mean yeah it's your first drinking international waters, but how many times you've been in international waters? You ordered it! Yeah, I did. I ordered it. It's not that they accidentally brought you an alcohol-laden pinia colada. You requested it.
Starting point is 00:19:30 That's right. I asked for it. You're right. I said, which one of these is like a, like a you know, I don't know, like a zesty, kind of fruity thing? And they said, oh, this one right here is real good. Hadamese didn't go with like a Mai Tai or a, you know, like a rum punch or something, like a, I guess this isn't a tropical cruise. This is like a, you know, we're going up to see some icebergs go and poop out little icebergs.
Starting point is 00:19:55 They had a huge menu. I just, I didn't know anything about any of it. And I'd heard of mojitos before, because they're like in a movie. Someone will, I'll just have two mojitos please and a blah, blah, blah. So I just went with what I've seen on movies. So does it feel like, because now you've got the decision here? do you maintain the streak within the continental United States, or isn't it just much easier to say, eh, you know what, maybe a glass of wine here and there. It's like, let's just call that streak broken.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It's going to be so much easier to manage. Well, I'll probably, I would probably go for another mojito here on the mainland. Yeah. Or something like it. Sure. Wine. I had cooking wine once. I know it's not the same. Okay, I know it's not the same But I thought it tasted like crap I really hated it Yeah Everybody hates their first taste of wine
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, I don't want I was zero interest in any of that But I liked it It was a nice mojito It's nice Yeah, very good What else? Oh, I just wanted to give a shout out
Starting point is 00:21:00 To Duval Our cruise director, Duval Oh wow Who every morning would get on the radio thing The big giant speaker system To the whole ship and go it would go uh
Starting point is 00:21:12 g to the double o d morning to you oh my god every day every day and sometimes it was g to the double o d afternoon and sometimes it was
Starting point is 00:21:27 g to the double o d evening i hate it to the double o d g to the single o g o d uh duval was the worst just good god for everybody for everybody and i keep the door he tried really hard to be funny and affable he is no julie freaking forget it duval sorry buddy go back to whatever he had an assistant
Starting point is 00:21:47 he leads a list of uh like alternatives hey maybe on day one you do the g to the double o d and then never do it again ever ever again he drove me crazy that guy um but he but he had an assistant who was from britain and she had an amazing accent so she could she was great uh all right the rascal butt in this is a real thing and it happens all the time If someone, old person's on a rascal, you're in line at a buffet. The buffet was amazing, by the way. Really good food. How do they do that in the post height of the pandemic?
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm not going to say post-COVID. Because guess what? We're still dealing with it. But post height of the pandemic days, do they, do you still get your own food? Or do you say, ooh, I'll do some of that. And then they put it on a thing for you and hand it to you? Oh, you're going to just, you just scoop it. You get your own.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, it's very buffet. I guess like you say, everybody's tested. Everybody's got their car. Yeah, and all the workers there, all massed all day all the time. Everybody all the way up to the captain, although I never saw him. But everybody, I saw their officers and stuff. Everybody massed to the hilt. They seem to be taking it really seriously there.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The one thing they are doing, though, is they're going to stop the vaccine mandate as of the sixth, as of today. Oh, God. So as of today. Oh, you got into the right time. Yeah, I kind of glad we went when we went because, I don't know, it just made me feel less. nervous about it. For sure. What?
Starting point is 00:23:12 You're not up with the next eating man date? All right. Well, it was a nice, nice knowing you, princess. Yeah, nice one. See you later.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So long, princess. So that's, so long's princess. Your highness. Anyway, so there's Duval. He sucked. All right. The rascal butt in.
Starting point is 00:23:25 This is real. Oh, yeah. You're in there. You're getting your eggs. For me, it's eggs and mushrooms. Mm. Sautade mushrooms and eggs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. So I'm in there. I'm working on that in the morning. Every time, little old guy in a scooter, right in front of you. every freaking time you're in line. I don't know why those people think they can just do that.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Locking up, people don't do that or didn't do that for you, right? It was just like it was only people who... All rascals all the time, dude. They're going to get out of driving a car, basically. They're going to get out of my way. Yep. It's about some of the stops. Catch a can.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I could live there. Easy, no problem. Yeah. Icy Point. I could also live there. That place was a trip. And that was your alternative because they said no Skaggett, so they took it to icy point.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, Skagway was shut for... What was the reason? Some kind of cave-in. Something weird happened. Oh, well, that's bad. Something like one in a thousand-year event, and they had to change it. So that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:24:20 But I love those little towns. Those are awesome. I know they're super kitchy. That's kind of their thing, you know, because they're the stop for these boats. I don't understand why every three feet there's a jewelry store. Because... I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Because, you know, these people you know I've got to impress my wife let's get you a ring here oh we've walked we've walked 30 feet do you need to ring
Starting point is 00:24:44 okay let's they were all they were all like they all looked like they were trying to shaft me with fake stuff it felt like Tijuana I didn't like that
Starting point is 00:24:53 and then they'll have like a oh and we're going to do a jewelry show this afternoon on the Lido deck and blah blah blah yeah there is something I wonder if there's some sort of
Starting point is 00:25:03 text like tax break that you can get because there's some reason that jewelry sells so well on cruise ships and it's not just the fact that people have spent all this money on a cruise and they want to spend more money on jewelry
Starting point is 00:25:17 there is something else to that something absolutely is going on there and I can't put my finger on it especially at the ports I don't get why they like I thought oh okay kitschy shops with local art and you know I expect that I didn't expect to walk in there and have it be like a Zales conference
Starting point is 00:25:34 it was nuts Oh, Zales is like sales. Sales conference, Zales conference. I like that. Anyway, so that was the thing. What was I going to say about, I forgot, there was something that had a little side thing. You were on the Lido deck, weren't you? Oh, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah. Glad you brought that up. I sent this text to Brian as quick as I could get any form of internet. They put me on the Lido deck. You're probably still in Seattle. Yeah, I probably was. Seattle's internet. But when I found out I had, that's true, I used 5G until we left port.
Starting point is 00:26:03 But they put us on the Lido deck, which was deck 16, big tall boat, 18 total floors on this thing. The Lido deck was great because it's the traditional, here's the two pools, here's all these hot tubs, here's the multiple bars, and they show movies out there, and that's their big main thing. This is a serious recommendation. If you're going to go on one of these cruises, get on that deck. So my cabin is on the same deck, just deeper in. Right. And on the same deck is the buffet. uh which is enormous they have a whole bakery in there like this huge space and so all of the
Starting point is 00:26:41 key places i needed deck to hang out on pool the hot tubs the screen the food all of it on the same deck we live on it was great that's so awesome so you don't have to go up and down the and we did that accidentally we had no idea that that was how that was going to work out everybody else had to deal with those elevators which is next on my list F those elevators. F them straight to hell. They're the worst things. Not because they're not, you know, there's enough of them.
Starting point is 00:27:07 There's like 30, it felt like, tons of elevators. But they're, you know, Hilton at Blisscon? You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. And it's like you have a full elevator. I mean, obviously there's no way for the elevator. Well, maybe there's some high-tech way that the elevator can tell that it's full.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And I'm not going to stop these for us because nobody's going to have room to get in. Yeah, it was a nightmare. It's a freaking nightmare. Those elevators. So we avoided those like the play. You can do the stairs pretty easy, so it was no big deal. Anyway, so there's that. The ancient forest and petrified beaches of icy point.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So good. So cool. Wow. Let's see. Jewelry store, as I mentioned, what else? So Mario and Luigi on Italian night, we had these two guys from the Philippines who are serving Kim and I, this fancy dinner. They did fancy dinners every night.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You had to kind of dress up for him. You couldn't just wear hats and shit. Nope. Nope. You got to, yeah. That was cool. Food is really good. Tennis shoes or shorts, man.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You got a dress like you mean. So when we get in there for Italian night, this guy immediately launches into this. Hello, I am Italian. This is Italian night. I am a Mario. This is Luigi. And he starts doing this like he's, you can hear the, you know, his, his native accent underneath all of it. And he's like, ah, you like the cave.
Starting point is 00:28:17 You like the chicken. I bring you the chick. And he would not stop doing this voice the entire time we're there. So I started playing to it and going, he goes, you want some more water. I said, yes, water, but just the, I need the Italian kind of water. because it's Italian night, I kept saying. So can you bring me the Italian version? Like, I was really leaning into it.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Because if he's going to do this terrible impression for the next hour and a half, I'm going, going all the way. He's really annoying. He did say that. Do you like to have a DePapper, he said? Well, and that's a reference. I think if Matuba's doing the old S&L skit with Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider, Kirstie Alley, where the guys bring their dates there and they're like,
Starting point is 00:28:59 oh you like it to pepper and they're like you know it was like that now i'm starting to wonder if these two filipino guys knew that skit or something they started doing the you know one of them's going to come out in a diaper in a second yeah that was really weird anyway uh that was fun what else uh so hi hey shout out to mario and luigi uh lady picking at her feet and nails in the spa we paid for us so there's like this this thing called the alcove or the yeah alcove anyway you pay a hundred bucks a person for all week and you can go and in there and they got these steamer chairs and these like
Starting point is 00:29:33 big hot tubby thing and massage stuff and like saunas and all that right they did the dead skin off your feet no they did but not in there they didn't have it in there so we go in there boy she should have been in there now that you say it because this lady all
Starting point is 00:29:49 I mean I'm not no fat shaman but she was like she was really big right it's irrelevant it's relevant in this one way it impressed me how she was able to reach down, because I can barely do this, reach down and pull her left foot
Starting point is 00:30:05 almost up to where her face is. Just pull this leg. Yeah, I could barely do it too. Yeah, like right up here. And then she was... Was she biting her toenails? Just digging at it. No, I don't know what she was trying to do there,
Starting point is 00:30:15 but I don't know if she ever found what she was looking for. But it grossed me out. You pick your toes in your cabin. You don't do it. You don't do that in a public space. Come on now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Next up, we got... We're almost done here. Oh, day five rough seas meant no Bueno for Kim. She gets motion sick, pretty easy. And that was a full day at sea. Yeah, full day at sea. And it happened to be a really choppy day, really foggy day. That's the day I hit the casino, my friend.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, I let the motion of the boat turn that accidentally rolled seven into a six. Yeah. We tried to do a lot of hot tub and then because the hot tub had a way of making you forget that the boat was moving like crazy. Yeah, right. probably you know who knows the steam and stuff probably helped Kim as well or may have yeah definitely did but then when we'd stop and she was like I'm gonna I'm gonna hurl I'm gonna hurl and I'm like oh man I don't have any of that apparently did she did she throw up did she break her international waters vomit streak well since she has no streaks I can't say for sure
Starting point is 00:31:17 however she vomited hardcore she's gonna hate that I told us just had the worst night because of that storm or because of that run but um for what whatever reason. I don't have any of that. It was no problem. It's fine. That's good. Let's see. Oh, save 400 bucks because we saw whales anyway. Oh, good. You didn't have to pay for an excursion. You saw them off the cruise ship? Yep. They wanted us to pay, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:44 $200 to go on some boat in a bus, then a boat and go see him somewhere with no guarantee we're going to see him. Right. Yep. And we saw them out there. I don't know what they were doing, but they were jumping out and they're putting their tails in the air and spitting their holes and all that. Nice. Is that how they say it? They spit the their holes whatever it is yeah with the uh like big uh what big blue whales no what is it they weren't the black and white little killer whales right they were like the big old we looked
Starting point is 00:32:08 for them there are killer well killer whales out there but these were uh like humpbacks and stuff humpbacks that's what i was trying to think of yeah some lady i do remember this i'm standing by the window getting like binocular shots of these of these things or as i said burnocular until my wife couldn't stand it anywhere anyway give me them burnoculars i didn't mean to play that that was weird Anyway, so I'm out there and this lady's sitting next to me and I said, I wonder if that humpback will breach, will breach the surf. I says this to Kim. And the lady goes, humpbacks don't breach the surf.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And I went, oh. Well, actually. Yeah, there was a moment there. Yeah, really annoyed me. It's like, shut up, please. No, no, I mean, really, they don't. Well, all I know is the one I saw did. It popped out and went, psh, a little tail.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So unless she. I mean, isn't that, isn't breaching? Like, when they, when they, when they. come completely out of the water and then drop back in yeah i mean i don't know if it's like a full on jump out or not i mean we saw them kind of roll out and roll in and then tail in the air was good enough for me but it saved us 400 bucks and i'm happy about that yeah uh finally in and i and i started the conversation uh with this we've been listening to this the whole time watched a lot of the love boat i have this takeaway from the love boat when i was a kid i thought the doctor on the ship was the one that you
Starting point is 00:33:26 could rely on that was like the solid down-to-earth guy he's the doctor he's trained he's he's a physician depocratic oath all that stuff yeah no he's a pervert whack he was chasing right exactly any age i think with dr bricker yeah he didn't care and he's 89 now by the way that actor yeah briny copel you trip bernic copel still with us uh all of them except for uh stubing i think he just died last year. Oh, really? Yeah, I think Gavin McLeod just passed. Gavin McLeod, yeah. But he, this guy, he's a, he's a, I mean, like, literally arrest him on your next port. He's, he's like, that guy was horrible. He was a monster in this show. I couldn't, I don't remember that. I don't
Starting point is 00:34:11 remember that at all. Everybody else about what I expected. Isaac's cool. Julie's nice. Lovable Dufus. Yeah, Lovellable Dufus gopher. Exactly. The captain kind of, you know, caught up in the leadership and not really paying attention to his surroundings, you know, kind of a goofball. Right. But it's all fine. By the way, the only woman in that cast, oh, she's a cruise director. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We can't have her be captain. That'd be silly. That'd be real weird. She was great, but everybody else. The Dr. Troy of the love boat. Exactly. Anyway, also, I didn't realize the final thing, the thing I didn't know about the love boat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:51 The love boat has. guest stars that's the whole thing sure that's the whole thing the whole thing is every week it's new people coming on and they're they're all coming from all the other shows you know oh there's uh i don't know melissa gilbert oh falk uh peter falk sure all these people like come on in be here they're all the they're the hot hits of today's television they're on the show exactly what i don't remember was and now i've seen how many of them just kept coming back playing new people yeah all the time i didn't know that I thought it was like one-offs, but I'm seeing Pat Marita like three times. I'm seeing the guy that became the captain, Robert Urick, from the new wave.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Oh, right, yeah. He came on there like five times. Charo had to be. I wonder if she has like eight different appearances and eight different characters or something. Billy Crystal was on there doing a where he was a kissing bandit. And he just ran around the ship at night with a mask on kissing women without them knowing. It's really weird shit, dude. That show is freaking really, really weird.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Really weird. So I'm not saying I, well, here's, okay, my biggest takeaway is all of the acting almost entirely universally is bad. Yeah. Except for the episode with Dabney Coleman and Rue McClanahan. I talked about them on film sack a little bit. Roo, Roo McClain. What's her name? Rue.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Rue McClainahan. They were amazing. They did Oscar worthy performances in their little get up. Everything else, total trash. That show is trash. but really addicting trash we couldn't stop watching it so it's good well now you know what it was like in uh in my grandparents house summers of of the 80s where i was like all right well i guess we got a starting night guess we got to watch loveboat followed by fantasy island yep that's how it went
Starting point is 00:36:41 and you're a better man for it all right so there's your there's your big fat catch up on my time on the love boat uh it was actually a really good time we had a blast it sounds like it sounds like it was great i needed it i definitely needed it there is that weird i still have this weird feeling that the house is moving a little bit um didn't expect that a little little gentle rocking yeah it's weird kim too she's like yeah it just feels like you're a little i don't know i didn't expect that i don't know people have said that that's had that happens you've been on a ship for while you get off and it feels weird but yeah um had a really really good time awesome uh Oh, and I didn't mention Jigger, which is this guy that helped us a lot,
Starting point is 00:37:22 whose name was very unfortunate. Anyway. Well, if he was a bartender, it would be perfect. It would be. Hey, Jigger. How about another rum runner? Yeah. Or this guy named Milrod.
Starting point is 00:37:35 He was cool. Oh, that's an unfortunate name. Yeah. What a Milrod. A millrod. He was great, though. He worked at the little pizza slice place, and it was voted best pizza at sea. by seagoers weekly or whatever
Starting point is 00:37:54 yeah they're not the best pizza in the world just at sea anyway Brian you were in Vegas while I was gone how'd that go is it fun I did three days in Vegas just this last weekend with the real Chris Brown my son Tristan and Barry and it was it's it's kind of crazy to think that two of the greatest hits of my you know my stories Barry, you know, we go and hang out with Barry all the time when he comes out to town. And Chris Brown had never met each other.
Starting point is 00:38:23 So they actually, it was the meeting of two TMS characters, so to speak. Did they hit it off well? Were they fast friends? They hit it off very well. Yeah. That's great. We would frequently line up at the bar at, we stayed at Lexor. It was cheap.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I had free nights. We'd line up at the bar there on a row of video poker machines. And we'd be talking about muses. music and movies and TMS and this and that, and it was just a great time. That's good. I hit a four deuses on a machine and had $250 the third, basically arrived in Vegas, got to our hotel, went upstairs, dropped off my stuff, came back down, we sat at the bar. My third hand of cards was four deuses and had $250 that I basically just played on for the rest of the trip.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's great. For gambling. You're good at that. lucky that that was really yeah but you're good at the whole like oh okay I'm up this much so now I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out how to sip on this all weekend you know what I mean sure yeah most people aren't good at that they're like whoa look what I did and now they're in the hole and oh shoot I can get back my street well now I'm gonna up my bed to 250 dollars a hand oh it's gone all right this is crazy but that's fun though it was real quick though you were they're barely there it was a blip yeah this weekend's trip is a little bit longer and I'm excited for that but the so first night, we went out to a place called the cabinet. This is in Bally's. This will be this will absolutely be a TMS Vegas thing next year.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It is a, it's cabinet short for the cabinet of curiosities and it's a bar where the entire wall of this bar, and it's a long space, is all weird
Starting point is 00:40:09 looking artifacts and this weird sculpture statue thing here and then this interesting knife and then this thing over here. It looks like a bunch of crystals. And what you do is on your coaster, you've got a QR code. You scan it and then it comes to a screen where it says, enter your four-digit number. And you go up to these things
Starting point is 00:40:25 and they've got a little card with a four-digit number. You enter that in. It says, this came from the mountains of the Appalachians where it was discovered, da-da-da-da. This knife is a traditional, blah, blah, and you're sipping on your drink there. Well, one spot on this wall is
Starting point is 00:40:43 a giant safe. Looks like a big you know, uh, looks like the price is right. Safe Cracker is safe. So a big wheel on it and stuff like the big wheel on it and everything. And, uh, next to it is a telephone. And if you've made a reservation, you go up to that telephone when it's time for your reservation, say, hello, I'm here for my 615 reservation. They say, all right, the password is, three's a crowd.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Hang up. You go over to the safe and a little window opens up on the safe when you approach it. Like a little, like a little sliding dial opens up. And we go, freeze a crowd. And you hear a chink, and then you spin the wheel, you pull open the door, and you go in to this much smaller room with a bunch of other safes on the walls. And the guy says, all right, you can either go through the big door or you can go through the crawl space or the crawl hole. And we're like, oh, well, all of us without even questioning it, just go, oh, we'll do the crawl hole for sure. You do the full experience.
Starting point is 00:41:42 He's like, all right, you guys are awesome. Well, the code on that door, I don't know it offhand, but I do know that the first number is somewhere up among those keys dangling from the ceiling. And you look up there, one of the keys has a big zero, 3D printed zero as the handle is like, as the first number, zero is like, oh, very good. Now the next three numbers are, you know, in these three safes, and you each have to figure out what that next number is, and you figure that out. This is a dude hanging out with us in this little room the whole time. And we get that, we go through the crawl hole. And now we're in this like old-timey wooden, everything, you know, beautifully varnished cherrywood speakeasy. And the bartender back there, you've got your, again, on the coasters, you've got one side that's got the QR code for the drink menu.
Starting point is 00:42:33 The flip side is a little questionnaire, four-question questionnaire. Like, what kind of mood are you in? What kind of vacation do you prefer? Beaches, downtown, ski slopes, et cetera. And your answers to those questions, you give that to the waitress, and she comes back with a custom made drink that based on your answers to that. And we figured out, obviously, if you say beach, you're getting a rum-based drink. If you say downtown, you're getting a whiskey-based drink. Your mood determines whether it's going to be sweet or savory or bitter or sour or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:05 sure uh but i still had a you know a really really good gin and lemon um oh so it was it was really good and i don't you know didn't have a name i can't say oh let me get a blah blah blah uh the next time we were to drink but it was like a so-called custom thing but the bartender came over we chatted with him for a while and figured out what like all right what are your what are your algorithms that you use for those choices and uh but it was it was great really really nice in there. Leather couches. We sat on a leather couch and it's a couple of chairs and had those. After that, we went to a place I've talked about on the show
Starting point is 00:43:42 before, Super Freco, which is where all the performers from opium at Cosmopolitan come when they're not doing their show. So in between their acts, they pop over into this place. Just the lady. Just the one. The lady with the thing. Oh, my lord. Right, the big fuzzy thing with the bum.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. The first thing we see are couple of ballerinas they come in here and they're doing their like swan lake thing and then and this happened right in front of me basically like i'm standing at the bar we're waiting for our table and where i'm sitting it is maybe you know two feet in front of me is this ballerina and they're like trying that all of a sudden they start getting a little competitive and standing in front of each other and they start pushing each other and obviously it was a show yeah but it was happening directly in front of me that they're they're like pushing each other and they're like pushing each other back and forth in this thing.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Best Chicken Parmesan I've ever had and they brought us, they brought two for the table, two big ones to split and so we just kept cutting into it and, uh... Ooh, that sounds good. All right, what do you, what are you showing on screen
Starting point is 00:44:51 that the chat room is reacting to? I show the lady with the eyeballs on her bum and the plunger. No, that's not... I know it's not. I just had to show him. I got to see it. Tell me the story about you can eat rice. I want him to see this lady i didn't know if you're going to tell the story that wasn't part of this that was a whole
Starting point is 00:45:08 different thing oh you can tell you can tell you want tell it separate you can do it different i'll tell that story now i promise it'll still work it didn't matter how much setup ladies and gentlemen it won't matter how much setup this has this was the weirdest thing i've ever gotten in my life from you ever all right okay so the next night we go to this place called lost spirits distillery yeah and this is a uh rum distillery where they've taken a lot of their warehouse space and turned it into a walk-through, sort of like a walk-through, look at the woman with a giant snake lounging on a chair, and over here is the scariest thing ever, and then here's a burlesque dancer. You basically just get a tasting glass, and you take it around to each of these stations
Starting point is 00:45:55 and try these really, really good rums, sipping rums, and then walk around this place, and there's shows going on constantly. So we walk up to this one, and there's this. this burlesque dancer issue. The woman comes out and interviews, oh, and how about some classic burlesque for you? Okay, here comes Susie or whatever her name is. And I don't want to give too much away
Starting point is 00:46:14 because there's so much cool stuff in here, but this one I'll tell you about. So this one comes out in this nice, long black dress. And to describe her very accurately as a cross between Annie Lennox and Shirley Manson from garbage. So you kind of have a visual idea of her look.
Starting point is 00:46:33 She had Annie Lennox's blonde hair, kind of that angular face, but still a little bit like Shirley Manson, very striking, very beautiful. Big white fur coat over her black dress, and she reaches into her black dress and she, or into the fur coat, and she pulls out a toilet plunger. Yeah. And she sets it on the ground. She kind of dances around for another minute or two, not taking off any clothes. Actually, she took, she took off her white fur coat after that. And she kind of looks around, then she looks down at the plunger, and then she looks at the audience, and she looks back down at the plunger and back at the audience. She goes over the plunger, and she picks it up, and she puts the handle between her legs like she's riding it like a broomstick.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So, of course, the front of the wooden part is sticking out directly in front of her. Yeah. Then she, and the whole time it's playing Frank Sinatra's my way. Like, it's, you know, this like, oh, no, the end is near. so she uh she turns around facing away from the audience flips up the back of her black dress where she's got giant googly eyes on her butt and the the rubber ring the rubber part of the plunger is is basically right under those googly eyes sticking out of her butt and she takes the takes her hand and she makes the uh the plunger move like
Starting point is 00:47:57 It's a mouth, and it starts, and then the music changes to Dohaust by Romstein. It's the doohs part that really sold it for me. Like, I see the video when Brian sends me this text, and I went, okay, what the frick is happening? I hear audio, and I just about, I was floored. I couldn't believe it. It's so, so, and everybody is just because we're thinking, oh, wow, is she going to start taking clothes off or what's happening? Why does she have a plunger? Oh, my God, what is she going to do with that thing?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. Thank God it wasn't what you all thought she was going to do with that thing. That's what she wanted you to think, though, right? That's what she wanted us to think, yeah. I think so. The whole looking back at the plunger and looking at the audience, I think it was like the, oh, should I? Should I? Well, you know, she wanted a little bit of the old splinter business there.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Exactly. So, yeah, so she turns around and does that. And Barry and I both phones out immediately like, dude, which one of us is sending this to Scott? Yeah, like, how fast can you record this lady? you got pretty early like she was just getting going in the song i was impressed it was yeah it was uh the second i mean you can't really call them verses do hoss do hoss mick and then yeah yeah i had it out that's awesome but it was it was just so damn hilarious it's pretty great i love and that's why it needs the setup you see i see the visuals well did that so chat room did i
Starting point is 00:49:16 ruin it for you all or did that was it okay it was okay they just saw this thing that made no sense and then you would have been funny as them seeing it after i did the description of the, uh, benches says, yes. Yes, please don't show it again. Don't want to look at it. Yes, ruined bomb bats. Yes. Slightly ruined.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Ruined. Ruin. Yes. Yes. Nope. Ruin, but saved. See, look, it's all good. Ruin, but completely, uh, unwatchable.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Great. Ruin. You can't trust chat. You're right about that. You stop that sentence right there. All right. Exactly. Uh, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Let's see what time is it. Yeah, we're going to take a break. That's what we're going to do. Already. And we are going to come back. When we do, Bill's back from his whirlwind trip to DragonCon, so he'll be here. And after that, we'll talk to Bobby. We've got some science coming up.
Starting point is 00:50:04 So it's your Tuesday business, everybody. Coming up after this song selection that Brian will now explain. I won't spoil it, though. I'm going to tell you what it is until he tells you. Oh, you sure? Yeah. Positive. Positive.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Ma'am, I was talking to the duck. Tell me that joke, Brian. All right. I don't know that. By the way, this musical break is brought to you by where I'm from a brand new podcast. by Bill Meeks. Well, it's not new if you were a listener of America's Next Top Podcaster where he developed this show. And now it is a real, actual, great, live, or new show. His first guest is Stephen Page, formerly of Bare Naked Ladies. He's one of his favorite songwriters,
Starting point is 00:50:41 so he's over the moon to talk to him about his native Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario. Get where I'm from wherever you get your podcasts. Nice. All right. This song comes to us from the Trip Tides. Big Thanks to curation records for getting this one over to me. A brand new album by the Triptides. It is called Blah, blah, blah. So many days just came out at the end of the month, and it's a great, great album. I actually had a hard time deciding, because they didn't tell me which song to put on the show, so I had a hard time deciding.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Decide to go with this one. I think you're all going to like it. The song is called Fate. Here are Triptides. It's time to find a natural harmony, I want to sail across the endless sea. And maybe somehow you could come along, leaving the letter saying, now I'm going to go away. to somewhere behind me losing what I found can you try to remind me love is all around And when you couldn't realize your fate
Starting point is 00:52:27 You looked at me and last is it too late We never really learned to compromise But still the bias burning deep inside So I go back to the beginning Try to find myself Last but soon I'll be winning No, leave the time we'll tell. So many hours staring at the sky
Starting point is 00:53:30 The clouds exploding as they drift on by The sun is rising for another day A cup of coffee and you're on your way So you go back to the beginning Find what once was lost As the planet is spinning, see the coin is tossed It's not the only world you'll ever see But for the moment it's the only one for you and me
Starting point is 00:54:08 For you and me You know, I'm going to be able to be. The time will begin counting down and you'll wake up to the aroma of freshly baked bread in the morning. Now, I know it sounds silly to remind you, but if you don't push start, you'll be waking up to a cold breadpan of unmixed raw ingredients, which is a poor substitute for bread. Believe me, I've done it. It's a big deal. The Morning Stream. It's What's in the Yogurt. We're back. Who was that song again?
Starting point is 00:55:30 That song is Triptides with the brand new song, Fate, from their brand new album, So Many Days. That sounds great. Okay. There was a Brian Johnson performing on the... I saw the photo you sent me. It's like, weird. Yeah. If you took a photo or if you take a photo of the both of us and morphed to the... them you might have gotten this guy you might end up with this dude yeah never heard him i heard the i heard the comedian we had was bad so i didn't go um what else was there oh they had a cool magic show they had a bunch that is an awesome uh room paradise projection room thing oh yeah i saw that we're
Starting point is 00:56:09 like oh nerdtacular how about here yeah wasn't bad it was like a huge space and i'm i'm sure it's so ridiculously priced we'd never do it but there are some cruise lines it'd probably be a better deal maybe i don't know oh sure Something to think about. All right. We're back. We got... It's some of that Joko Cruz action.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Take, you know, take that... Take some of the steam out of their cheese, you know? All right, let's see. Who's gone on the show? Bill. That's who's on. Bill. Bill and Bobby Day.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Bill and Bobby Day. That's right. Bill and Bobby Day. Bill and Bobby Day. No relation to Mikey Day. Not that I'm aware of. All right, here's this. Your bat caves open there, Bill.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Joining us now a guy who I passed literally in the night. I was in his hometown while he was in Georgia and then he got home right after we left and that kind of sucked because I was weirdly secretly hoping I would somehow run into Bill. It didn't happen but don't worry everyone it'll happen again. It's Bill Durand joining us
Starting point is 00:57:05 from Punishpops.com recently at DragonCon your big return right since the pandemic. You know it and we went hard so I'm surprised my voice still works. I know a little rough but not Too bad. Yeah. So it was three conventions back to back.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Oh, right. Not just DragonCon. I went to Emerald City Comic-Con. Right. And that was here in Seattle, and that was just for the day. I just went for one day. I went in my Ghostbuster outfit, and I just went and had a bunch of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But then we drove to the coast with my family, and then my brother and I drove to San Jose for Silicon last weekend. That's right. Yeah. That was a hold to do. But Silicon was really, really good. We drove down as about a 13, 14-hour drive, but we drove with a ton of stuff. So my twin brother, Rob, has an Iron Man costume.
Starting point is 00:58:06 We brought that. I brought my Ghostbusters stuff. We brought a bunch of other props and everything to show off because I had a booth. It was a working convention. I mean, it was a ton of fun. But I had a booth. We had books to sell. and it was a lot of work
Starting point is 00:58:20 but it was so much fun I'll bet I saw a picture of you your twin and Adam in the middle Oh yeah Yeah that was great That's awesome
Starting point is 00:58:29 I got to introduce Rob So Rob's a huge fan of Adam Obviously Rob is a A science teacher And he's the coach For his high school's robotics team So I got the chance to introduce him to Adam Which was super fun
Starting point is 00:58:42 The convention itself I'm telling you If especially if anyone's on the West Coast and they're looking for a MakerCon, or if you wanted to go to Maker Faire, but they don't do it anymore. Silicon is going to be that. Really?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah. What happened to Maker Faire? I didn't know it went away. It went under. 2019 was the last big year. There are still some mini-maker fairs around, but the big ones are pretty much done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Okay. And everything is a focus there, right? Like, you know, working with resin or 3D printing or prop making. and stuff like that. It is like all over the maker landscape. That's cool. And Silicon.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And Silicon's a lot like that. They had a, the middle of the floor was like a maker area. There were tables with supplies. There were workshops that people, like right in the middle of the floor, people were making stuff. There was a stage by there
Starting point is 00:59:37 where people could put on demonstrations or workshops that people could follow along with. And there was something happening there all day, which was really, really cool. And my booth was, like, across from it so I could watch it the whole time, which is incredible. Oh, yeah, no, that's good. Did you speak on any panels or do any of that or was it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Oh, yeah, there were some normal panels. Next year I wanted to do more of the more involved stuff. Like, they had a competition, an hour in a box, and mystery stuff, and teams of people had to make stuff, which looked like a ton of fun. I watched a bunch of my friends doing that while I was at my booth, like, hey, I wish I'd signed up for that it looked great i didn't we did normal some normal panels where like me and a bunch of people go up on stage and just talk about gluing foam together painting sure that was fun too but the really uh involved and uh interactive stuff looked like a ton of fun that's awesome dude so uh i saw pictures i guess this was dragon con though where you and your wife were the uh the satisfactory
Starting point is 01:00:40 cosplay that you guys finished that looks so good dude oh my gosh it looks so good So we Britt was home We've been working on these costumes For the last month And Britt was not at Silicon So she worked on it through the weekend When I got back from Silicon
Starting point is 01:00:56 When I drove back On last Monday Which is what I was doing One week ago Sure We had two days before we flew off For DragonCon So in two days
Starting point is 01:01:08 We finished our costumes And filmed it We filmed it all We'll have a video up On our costume build But we made the the pioneers, which is the player character from Satisfactory,
Starting point is 01:01:20 which you never see, of course, in the game because it's a first-person game. If you're playing multiplayer, you'll see your other people in those costumes and the cover has it, but it's, you're right, you really don't see it. It's like seeing Shell, like, you know, when you see Shell through one of your portals, even though you're shell,
Starting point is 01:01:36 right? It's, yeah. Yep, exactly, yeah. Fortunately, I played most of Satisfactory Brittany and I did play together, teamed up. So, very familiar with the character. sure um i modeled the 3d helmets in fusion 360 um i modeled them twice because i made one custom fit for me one custom fit for brittney we did the uh jumpsuits also obviously custom fit for our bodies and everything so sure on it work we got we crossed the line uh on wednesday at uh 7 p.m and our flight
Starting point is 01:02:10 left at 7 a.m so we had 12 hours to spare oh wow for some reason reason I thought you were going to be out there, sometimes you'll extend the stay, right? Do some other stuff with friends on that. But I guess not this time, eh? No, my mom's in town, and we're going to go see the Van Gogh, the Interactive Van Gogh Museum in Seattle. So I had to get back for that. We drove past that, and I went, oh, that's that thing Brian talked about. And Kim's like, where? And I go, I think he saw it in Vegas. Or no, he saw it in Denver. Where did you see it?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Which thing, the Van Gogh is here in Denver. Yeah, but they have a permanent installation in Vegas at Area 15. We also went to Area 15, but. Oh, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, we didn't go in there. I did want to see that, though, pretty bad. Worth it, Bill? I guess you're going to go see it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You're going to tell us about it. Yeah, you'll probably hear about it next week. Okay, cool. Very nice. Good. You spend the time with mom, never, never hurts anything. That's fantastic. Never does anything.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So Thursday, we got in a plane with our still drying costumes and flew to Dragon Con. And so it was a big deal for us. 2020 Dragon Con was canceled, and they had it in 2021, but we did not. not go. And from the accounts I heard, it was fun, but it was pretty lackluster. 2022, this year, came back swinging. Like, if other than people wearing masks, it felt just like a normal Dragon Con. The vibe was really good.
Starting point is 01:03:32 The costumes were incredible. We wore our new costumes. I was surprised at how many people recognized our costume. The response was always this, though. Someone would walk past us and they would go, satisfactory? Like, they were surprised? I thought they were going to accuse you guys of being like
Starting point is 01:03:51 sorry who's the band they just like daft punk or something? Daft punk yeah if it's right there in a finger daft punk or something like that because I hear great news I've got a video clip of me bopping my head to a couple of daft punk costumes in my costume so don't worry that happens
Starting point is 01:04:10 I'm not alone in seeing the similarities that's great though I mean if you're if you're ever going to in a place where people are going to recognize your weird choice for cosplay, it's going to be, you know, drag down, right? That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, so the response was great. We went out in our costume every day for a little bit. The helmets had
Starting point is 01:04:28 fans in them and lights and it was actually quite comfortable. And the helmets have just a big old visor on the front. You can't see our face at all. And pretty good visibility from the inside as well. So it was kind of cool to like chill out and someone would come by
Starting point is 01:04:44 and snap a photo, but you just kind of people watch from inside your little chemically sealed head spaceship and it was it was a lot of fun it was really fun to just kind of be chill and my head was cool and uh and observe let me ask you this question i see a close up on your helmet that you put it you put kind of this um beehive texture pattern yeah yeah did that obscure view at all or no problem not really just just a tiny bit um that's just vinyl uh clear vinyl that i cut on the vinyl cutter and the and stretched over the visor. And I love the look.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It looked really cool. It looks really, yeah. That's an awesome add to that. Oh, God, that looks so good. Yeah. And the detail on your, like, front little respirator bits and the screws and that there, that's just awesome. Oh, yeah, real screws.
Starting point is 01:05:32 The helmets actually have holes in the cheek and the chin for venting. And I put a stainless steel mesh over, and it looks just like it came out of the game, but it also provided a ton of airflow. That's great. Like, I was, I also wore my, just when I was out and about without a costume. I had my hat on, just a normal hat. And that hat was so sweaty and so gross. It was hotter to wear a cap than it was to wear these helmets.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Oh, weird. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. That hat's for your stink bag. You got to put that in that bag. Right. Take a picture of this hat.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I've had it for years and it's getting really gross. You should keep it for as long as you can. I got a 3D scan it for posterity before it falls apart. art. That's what I'll do. Here it was, Amy and the Chow, who was also there, says it was really freaking hot this year. Was it hot? Outside, I guess it would be. Yeah, yeah. Well, I only left the building once. I had to beat friends for dinner once, so I left the building.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And it was actually pouring rain when we left. Oh. But other than that, yeah, I know there were some spots where it was getting pretty warm. We had to be in costume, you got to wander around and find out where the airflow is. And then say, we're going to go hang out over in the hallway by the droids. a while yeah that hallway was really cool wow well i'm impressed as always looks amazing and it probably felt real good to be back in in full swing like that at the seeing incredible seeing the uh you know the view up the uh the sides of the inside of the hotel where it's like that that that you know
Starting point is 01:07:00 the uh big meeting space the big lounge space it's like yes it's like oh yeah it's been easily eight years 10 years for me oh wow it's been a bit yeah you guys really fit into that look This photo I'm looking at right now looks like you're in space. Yeah, it's in space station. Totally. Yeah. And I got some shots. I really wanted to get the, that, the atrium there, reflected in the visor.
Starting point is 01:07:24 So we ran around with our costumes, but we also filmed a bunch of ourselves and our costumes for our video. Yeah. So, like I said, we'll have a build video out on these costumes soon, and it's going to end with just a ton of Dragon Con footage. That Zelda Guardian costume is amazing. Oh, my God. That's really, really good.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Technically, someone could get into it. Technically, it's a costume, but that was... Right, yeah, it's more of a sculpture. It's like an eight-foot-tall, functional guardian. There's no little footholes in the bottom you can just walk around. No. There was someone, however, who was who portrayed the death of Jamie Lannister
Starting point is 01:07:57 at the masquerade. Oh, no way. That costume was literally just a pile of bricks with a golden hand sticking out of it. Oh, that's great. It was magical. Yeah. Tons of that.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Tragon, tons of that going on. Sure. Think about swinging. It felt just as good as it did in 20. 2019 the last time we went I saw tons of friends lots of fans just very validating oh yeah it's always good to have that feeling feeling like a million bucks yeah it's a that never hurts well I'm glad dude some rejuvenation all around here on TMS for everybody uh yeah and I can't wait for the videos to show the builds on these that should be awesome tell people where they should be
Starting point is 01:08:34 looking for all this stuff and uh you know I usually do it but why don't you tell people where the home of Punished Props is that's right punish props.com where we've got all of our videos and stuff to buy. And then, of course, YouTube, Punished Props Academy, and we'll have a new video for these coming out very soon. Nice. Bonus link this week from our old pal bill. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Video for that tested shot over at Silicon of my friend Beverly Downen and her Dune still suit. That looks incredible. Wow. Oh, geez. All mostly foam. Beverly does a ton of stuff in foam. She's awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:12 We saw her at Silicon. and at Dragon Connter. Amazing husband, Brett, who's a photographer. And I'll share, I probably tweeted it at some point, he got just the best photo of us in our, in our new costumes. That's great. Oh, Wally. At Wally was it, at, I got to play with that Wally.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Did you? He's my new best friend. He's your new pal. Yeah, I love it. I need to make one. How, uh, boy, that seems like a big build, doesn't it? Seems like a lot of work. I think a few years.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Worth it. Worth it. Worth it. I'm counting on it. I'm counting on you, Bill. Make a Wally. That's what we're asking. All right. It's Bill Duran, everybody. Punish Props.com is the place to go.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Bill have a great week, and we'll see you next time. See you, Bill. Bye. Almost made him group leader again. They put that button closer than it used to be. Here, take the wheel. Yeah, take the wheel, Bill. Take the will, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:10:05 All right, we got, speaking of Jesus, we got a Jesus looking dude. Yeah, he looks just like him, so why not? Let's play this right here. Science. Hey, it's science. A little science with our old pal Bobby Frankenberger, joining us today from South Carolina. Hello, Bobby.
Starting point is 01:10:22 How are you? Good, man. How are you? You doing all right? Yeah, I'm fixing what's broken right now. You look like you're on the McDonald's heat lamp is what you look like. There we go. Good old logitech and their refusal to remember.
Starting point is 01:10:39 They do like to change things when you're not looking. I hate that. That's annoying. Hub. G-Hub is the worst. It's almost spyware at this point. Anyway, hey, Bobby, it's great to have you back. Always happy to have you on. We talk about science with Bobby. He's got a podcast all about science called All the Round Science. And we'll talk more about that toward the end, but what do you got brewing today? What do you got going on over there? I thought I would, I thought I'd talk about a couple of things that are on my mind and things
Starting point is 01:11:05 that I'm prepping for to talk about. First off, you're a cruister now. I'm a cruiser, yeah. I'm going to buy a rascal and going to, okay. By the way, they have you keep those medallions I mentioned earlier so that the idea is that if you go on another cruise with princess, you just take your medallion and it's all set to go. You don't have to do anything. And you just get in there again. I think it's a really interesting sort of customer loyalty sort of trick because they are very convenient. There were even places on shore.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So if you had, usually you have like a little bit of a slush fund as part of your package. package like you can spend a hundred bucks on shore or whatever yeah and uh a lot of those stores including tons of the stupid jewelry places all take the medallion for payment so if you go in there and you go yeah here's my medallion they can actually scan it on shore and say oh you've got a hundred dollar credit on this and this is 60 bucks you now have 40 and change and all just do it with your medallion never even take your wallet out which i just thought was nuts but it seems like an interesting way to keep people uh you know loyal to your program but also it felt a little creepy like I was getting watched right yeah and see and then they
Starting point is 01:12:19 have you keep those bands so you can continue getting watched oh looks like uh yeah yeah yeah that's the thing like I've got that thing right now do they it's supposed to be just near field communication but I don't know maybe it's like a right an Apple iron air tag or yeah which by the way partnered with other services quick side note I got air tags for our bags because I heard that was a good way to track your stuff and uh I'm always paranoid about bags so I so we got some and They're great. They're super simple, easy. I can see why people like them so much. However, at one point, I had them in three bags, four bags.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And at one point, three bags said they were with us in Seattle when we got home or got when we landed. And it said one was still up in Canada and Victoria, Canada. Oh, no, really? So it had an update of the location. Yeah, which I thought meant, oh, well, I've got 5G again. This should be accurate. Oh, no, they've left a bag in Canada somehow.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. But then about a minute later, it snapped. and it was here I've got one of my car one of my bike and then one in each of our suitcases but the one of my car every once in while I'll look at my phone
Starting point is 01:13:21 it'll say Brian's soul is no longer near you oh you lose your soul man I lost my soul yeah your soul man
Starting point is 01:13:31 you lost your white guy pretending to be black oh anyway Bill let's let's get to the side or Bobby I said Bill again Bobby hey I've been gone for a week
Starting point is 01:13:41 give me a break You guys all look the same Yeah, you all look the same to me Anyway, sorry, something scientific's going on You're here to tell us, what is it? Well, first of all, you guys heard that the new COVID booster is out now, right? I did hear that. The Omicron one, yeah, Ovecrom's specific.
Starting point is 01:13:56 B.A.5. Yeah, I remember not too long ago, I talked with you guys about how they delayed the, because the two of you got the booster and then right after you guys got it, they said, we're not going to give it to anybody else. Right. not until new cherry flavor comes out.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Yeah, exactly. And then we're going to bring it out. Yeah, exactly. So the new cherry flavor finally did come out, and it's going to, it includes vaccines updated for the current B.A.4 and 5 subvariants. So go out to your pharmacy and get them. I know that, actually, I'm not going to mention, I'm not trying to promote any pharmacy here, But my wife's pharmacy, I know, she told me that they have them. They already have them.
Starting point is 01:14:44 They're giving them out. Oh, they're already doing them. Okay. We were told next week they start here locally, but if I had to have two months between the last booster in this one. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that's actually one of the reasons why they wanted to wait is because they figured,
Starting point is 01:15:00 you know, it's confused. They wanted to minimize the confusion with the instructions about who can get them when and all this kind of stuff. So I think if they had been able to plan a little bit further ahead, then they would have probably waited altogether. And you wouldn't have even gotten those boosters. You probably would have had to wait as well. Sure.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Well, conceptually, the whole idea of an updated booster, it sounds like software. I feel like we got a patch. Like are there patch notes? Do we know what changed? Do they buff something? Did they nerf something? like what do we what do we actually know login screen COVID login screen now shorter yeah that's what it
Starting point is 01:15:45 feels like but it I mean all they really did was was change the the mRNA strain the because they they custom make those strains right like they they test the viruses figure out what the protein looks like that they want to target and then they make an mRNA a they design an MRI strain that they're going to manufacture and put inside the vaccines, and that's what they did. That's the difference is that this now, this includes the current, the one that just came out includes the ancestral strain, which is the original COVID, and it also includes the Omicron B.A.4 and 5 sub-variants, so. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 01:16:30 That's the difference. Which is good because those are basically all there are going around right now. That's the infected thing. So what if, I mean, I can only assume this virus has been pretty, you know, it's pretty good at doing its dance. And other variants are on the way because that's what those things do. We just talk and this is just the new norm where, you know, every six months or something, they patch the thing and we get a new version.
Starting point is 01:16:59 That's kind of it, right? That's our new lives. That's what we do. Yep. And I think I've said before that the way that they're figuring out, out how to rapidly make updated viruses for COVID is hopefully going to, and it's almost certainly going to impact how the flu virus is made as well. So we may see, and we're probably going to see better targeted flu vaccines. So the, you know, less flu going around hopefully
Starting point is 01:17:33 because. Yeah, there's kind of a shotgun approach to flu still, right? The way they do it. It's kind of like a shotgun, but it's like a shotgun where you kind of, you blindfold yourself, spin around three times, and someone tells you where to aim the gun. Oh, man. That's terrible. Describes it verbally to you. And then you hope that you're going to hit it. That's kind of our approach to the flu right now. But, you know, it's a shotgun, so you kind of hit it.
Starting point is 01:18:00 So from a scientific standpoint, can we call COVID endemic now? Is that word apply yet? Yeah, I think most experts have been talking about it being endemic for quite a while, and I think, I don't know, I don't know that I've heard anybody officially say it, you know, but, like, pronouncing it officially, but I think it's pretty much, I've been telling people that it's endemic. In Bobby circles, it's endemic. Yeah, so if my authority is pretty high on this stuff, so I figure you might as well consider it endemic. This isn't going away.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Yeah. It's here to stay. I mean, part of me is like, you know, whatever. We're going to have all sorts of retrospect, 2020 stuff going on in the next few years about this and how it kind of came on a little suddenly. We had to scramble. Some cool technology that had been being worked on for a long time got pushed faster so that it could happen quicker so we could get vaccines with this MRI stuff and all that. Is there, is there, is there, do you think? it's fair to say that
Starting point is 01:19:07 how do I put this in some weird ways I feel glad that it was like global and bad so that we could get it start getting ahead of this a little bit and then now you're talking about flu vaccines will have
Starting point is 01:19:24 a better you know better effectiveness because of it like we're I'm not I don't want to diminish the loss of life but like a silver lining that has come from these things is a better awareness of other yeah that's that's basically what I'm saying, because it's easy to get so caught up in the aftermath of it, you know. Yeah, I think I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And I think if I'm to put a finer point on it to say that it's, this could have been a lot, COVID, it could have been a different virus and the virus could have been a lot worse. It could have been an incredibly deadly virus that spread really. Like, we got kind of the best version of a global pandemic at this. stage in our history that we could have, and more pandemics are going to come. So to get this one, to start with, I say to start with, and pandemics have happened before, but you know what I mean, like modern day situation, and they've happened recently, but, but this one, to get this one that was going to, to really boost the technology that we have for dealing with it, this, this was
Starting point is 01:20:32 probably one of the best case scenarios we could have had. So, yeah, I think that we're lucky in that regard, and fortunately, we did get some incredible technological advances out of it. I mean, it goes to show you how, when we're facing a universally indiscriminate existential threat, we band together a bit a lot of people can come together to figure out how to make things better pretty quickly and that's what we did and you know took advantage of a lot of technology that's been being worked on for a long time funding was able to get redirected to make it so that those things that had been being worked on were able to put to good use and so it was um yeah so do you think now if you're looking for a silver lining then that's that's it yeah so now looking forward
Starting point is 01:21:28 if you know i'll just we'll fake a scenario here uh guys visiting brazil you know can't wait to go see the giant jesus statue or whatever he's down there sure he's hanging out doing his thing and then falls asleep one night decides he's kind of roughen it he's in some sort of you know Airbnb hut somewhere and uh some strange tree insect crawls up his butt and dies and uh when it does it transfers the first tree insect or stick insect uh to man virus and that's he's got oh no oh shit we've got the stick up your ass virus oh no does to have everything we've done does that put us in a better place when another one of these things pops um however it comes that we can go okay instead of scrambling and pre-approving and freaking out and everything
Starting point is 01:22:16 we can say no all right we've got a method to the madness this is viral we have the technology here's your here's your vaccine uh thing send it to the manufacturers bam they've got it bam your CVS Gazette, bam, it's in your arm. Like, do you think we're just better prepared for that now, or no? So, okay, the optimistic answer to your question, which I probably would have given a few months ago is, yeah, we were put through the past two plus years. We were put through the ringer and taught how to, how we need to deal with is better next time, right?
Starting point is 01:22:51 Like, we learned a lot of what not to do. There are a lot of experts that have documented what not to do because that's what we did, are the wrong things, and now we've refined our processes and we know what not to do. That's the optimistic answer to your question. The cynical answer to your question is, well, we haven't been handling monkey pox very well. Yeah, right. And we should have learned from COVID how to handle monkey pox. From a society perspective, having the COVID pandemic and the vaccines has kind of identified a bunch of different subgroups within our society. And we didn't have that before. We've been able to say, okay, here are the people
Starting point is 01:23:39 that, you know, care about making sure that they, if they get it, symptoms are mild, they don't spread it as easily, blah, blah, blah. And we didn't have that four years ago. You know, we've got, we now have a sector of the, of society that is like, yeah, this is going to be a problem? Great. Give me the vaccine. I'm okay with it. I'll do it. I trust you, et cetera. So from that standpoint alone, I feel like we're in a better place. I mean, we obviously, you know, we kind of knew we had stubborn dickheads in the society before.
Starting point is 01:24:10 We didn't need the pandemic to identify, but now we do have people who are saying, okay, yeah, this could be, this can happen at any time, as we saw. We lost an entire year because of it. I'm ready for it. If there's something else that comes out, get me in the first line for a way to prevent it from spreading. Yeah, I think there's some optimism to be had there. The one thing that really threw me on the ship while I was gone was I did see two or three people.
Starting point is 01:24:34 The socialism distancing one, you know, whatever, you can interpret it different ways. But there were people with shirts on and hats that were very much anti-vax, which was hilarious to me because they have to show proof of vaccination to get on the ship. So it's not like they're, they're, I don't know how to describe it. It was like this weird, well, I got to get on my seven-day buffet run. but I wouldn't do it if I, you know, like this was their one reason why they would get vaccinated. Their feet are firmly planted, but not that firmly. No. They've taken a stand, but they might also sit for a little bit instead of keeping that stand.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And I should say, I have 3,500 people. It was like 3 people, so I should, you know, I don't want to lump anyone into anything. But it was one of those moments where I was like, well, yeah, but you're here. And you're here because you got vaccinated. And I'm glad you did because you're probably not going to get me sick. Oh, I did get a thing on my phone today. check this out alert you are around selfish dickheads in the last seven days you're around 3,500 people in close proximity who all report having COVID I can't
Starting point is 01:25:39 find it now where do you find that go to your if you go to your health app in your on your Apple it should be oh yeah it should be at the top if it would be there right that would be the right app yeah yeah it'll be right at the top of your details or notifications or whatever crap i don't see it well anyway it basically said so sometime in the last seven days you were near someone who has now tested positive for covid and that makes perfect sense to me we're in crowded freaking loading unloading ship all week and then you know flights to and from and all that um but i'm pretty sure i don't know why just got this feeling i'm still going to get tested in three days
Starting point is 01:26:24 like they suggest and all that yeah i have this feeling that we skirted it, man, that I missed it. I dodged those bullets. Once again, Brian and I, the only two people left on the planet. No COVID. That's right. I still haven't gotten it. The triple bubble here, right here.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, that's right. I forgot, Bobby, you have, you have not partaken either. And my daughter had it and nobody else in the family had got it. Team Franken gibbet. Yeah, Frank and Gibbitt. Still holding together. That's a requirement to be on the show on Thursdays after Bill. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:53 That's right. Or Tuesdays. Or Tuesdays. Sorry, I was thinking about Thursdays. No, part of the requirement is forgetting what day it is. So you're good. You're all good. Speaking of which, real quick here, Bobby will be joining me again on Thursday while
Starting point is 01:27:06 Brian's traveling to guest host that day. So we're excited to have you back, man. How will it feel for you to jump from segment to full hosting capability in just two days? How does that feel? I was born ready for it. Are you doing, make sure you do your stretches. It's not, you know, oh, Brian, tell me about the India of the middle song. Oh, what's a good?
Starting point is 01:27:26 cover. I was like, oh, no. You've got to do your stretches. I'd stay up the whole night before studying what I'm going to be saying. So, yeah, good luck. I've been running drills. Drills, yes, exactly. We memorize all our notes. Getting ready for when someone tries to remember a name to just start spouting out random names. Well, then that's, you're perfect for this job. Well, well done. So yeah, look forward to Thursday. We'll have Bobby here co-hosting the entire morning. And it'll be one. windy day so no pressure everything to be fine uh that's it hey bobby tell people about what's going on on all around science this week you got any cool topics you're covering probably this i assume the well the um we might mention we'll certainly mention the COVID booster on the show but the episode that just came out yesterday we talked the main feature we talked about fatburgs you ever heard of fatbergs i think i saw a lot of them the last seven days but go on
Starting point is 01:28:26 in the ocean that might bump into the giant plastic island, right? It's a bunch of oil and grease all come together in the sewers and gigantic sewers. There are some that are the size of double-decker buses. And bigger. We're so horrible to this planet. It's like we're treating it like an Airbnb. But don't they, they're the big, one of the big problems that what I heard was if you're flushing, for people who are flushing wet wipes, those things act as like an adhesive and just
Starting point is 01:29:01 keep it all together, man. On the show, on the audio only show, we did a visual demonstration of how, we took a toilet paper in one cup of water and a wipe in another cup, and we tried to describe it as best we could. We had some live people watching that, so that's why we did it. But yeah, it's surprisingly flushable wipes are not as flushable as they claim that they are. I'm going to blame those man-ball wipe things that are all in the rage right. The dude wipes, yeah. Oh, yeah. Listen, you want to stop this?
Starting point is 01:29:35 Start putting bidets in your hotels, America. That's right. Problem solved. That's right. Oh, I did notice this is a weird toilet thing. In the ship, you're in, there's like tons of public bathrooms all up and down the ship, right? And I was in the ship. I get it. You're in a ship or you're in one of these bathrooms and they have like a whole wall of urinals. One guy flushes. They all flush at the same time. The way it's pipe. Like Christmas lights in there. Yeah, because it's the kind of whole, it's that whole thing. It's not like a, you know, normal toilet. So if you're standing there and you got a good long pee, you might witness two, three flushes before you walk away. Just the way it works.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Interesting. Wow. Yeah. Kind of bugged me a little bit. They should synchronize. Like, all right, are we all right, are we all? Are we all? Are we all? all good? We all ready? One, two, three. The only one that made me nervous was one time I flushed it in our tiny bathroom that you get in your cabin and it made the water and the shower go on for just a second. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know about that at all. Plumbing is weird on a cruise ship. It is indeed. But man, that thing, I'll tell you what, when a ship's that new and only had, I don't know, a handful of voyages, it's so clean. None of like, that rust you get from just ancient pieces of parts and stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Oh, there were parts of this thing. Like you would get, you'd be in the mezzanine, this beautiful, like, hotel space, forgetting you're even on a boat. And if you accidentally went through like a crew entrance or something, it looked like diehard in there. Like, everything's painted white, lots of stuff sticking out. It was like a science fishing move. You're looking for build clay to, you know, get those detonators.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Kill the Amish guy, hang him, and then shoot him again. later because he didn't die. Oh, man. Anyway. Before I go real fast, you know what I think about cruises? Cruises are part of this very narrow category of like vacation experiences where it's like Disney World's similar. It's these types of vacations that have lots of like rules and processes and procedures
Starting point is 01:31:36 involved. Yeah. Yeah. And when when you when you do one for the first time, you suddenly feel like the world's expert at doing them. Yeah. And you want to just, anybody you hear who's going on a cruise, you want to, like, tell them all about it. You're like, okay, yeah, so you've never gone.
Starting point is 01:31:52 This is what you're going to have to do? You're going to have to back this. Yeah. It drives me a little crazy. I promise not to be that person to anyone else. I'm not going to do that. I do that for Vegas all the time. Somebody says, hey, I'm going to Vegas.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Like, all right, well, here's the restaurants you want to check out or things like that. But I'll say, all right, when you're going into the Vodara, make sure you go on the back entrance. Because if you go on the front entrance, you're going to get hit by 18 sales. Well, to your credit, you typically get asked advice and then you'll give it, right? I don't just blatantly say, by the way, oh, I heard you're going to Vegas. There's what you got to do. You got to make sure you get the. That's a very different kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I hate that. It's been crazy. But anyway, yeah, cruises. Oh, I did one other thing. Totally forgot to mention this. There was a false announcement of a man overboard in one of the one of the. Oh, gosh. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:32:43 So we hear this lady on the thing. sorry he's right here sorry she goes man overboard man overboard something something and they start scrambling and people are freaking out and then she go uh sorry false alarm no man overboard go about your day i wonder why they tell all the all of you that there's like is there something you can do about it i think it's sure make sure you've got all your men with you yeah but make sure it's not your man oh it's not me it's not me okay it's not me but they had these boats like on the on the dock there, the kind of cop boats. I don't know, they look like police boats.
Starting point is 01:33:19 And they were like starting to fire up and they were getting all excited. And Kim and I were over on the shore and we're like, what is going on over there? And we heard the lady. And then we heard the apology and we're like, oh, okay. And then we just kind of kept, then we kept stealing rocks and shells from the. What? Oh, did you take a hotel from the cruise ship? No.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Or me a hotel. A towel? We took an entire hotel. Yeah. Did you take a hotel? Did you take a towel? No. So.
Starting point is 01:33:43 You wanted to, though, did? Yeah. Yeah, because I have the, we've talked about it on the show. Another street. There's a weird street, not even a streak, but this thing I used to do where I would be like, well, I'm taking this little hand towel because I paid $300 for this hotel room. I had this kind of attitude about it, right? But for some reason, it didn't feel right here.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Couldn't do it. Don't know why. Maybe they do have RFID on all their towels. I don't know. But I just had this feeling of like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. Don't forget to take a hotel. Yeah. They had, by the way, so this is hilarious to me.
Starting point is 01:34:13 The ship, you couldn't have any weed on, right? They had signs everywhere about no drugs of any kind, including marijuana or cannabis. And yet every single Alaska port had cannabis cells, you know, at cannabis stores. And the Canada one was full of them. They had tons of them. So any of those places you could go was totally legal, including Seattle, where we birthed from. So I couldn't ever quite get my head around. Well, what's the problem?
Starting point is 01:34:40 You're on international waters. I don't think this matters. Just let everybody have the weed. You could probably smuggle gummies or something, little gummy bears or Mike Tyson ears or something. Yeah, you could probably do that. But they, I don't know, they had this hardcore rule. And if you're coming offshore, they even had a big sign that said, if you bought any cannabis while on shore, you'll be stopped and sent to local authorities or whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And I'm like, the local authorities, it's legal here. You can have it here. I couldn't figure that out. But then again, they were really old people. They probably had cards anyway. They're getting all the weed they need. Sure. anyway Bobby the pleasure is ours and it'll be ours again when you're here Thursday
Starting point is 01:35:16 thanks for being on it's always good to have you thanks for having me I look we'll do it again if you're nice we'll have you back I appreciate it yeah Bobby Frankenberger everybody have a fantastic time and I can't find a way to hang up on you why okay there he goes bye now bye geez I've forgotten all my buttons Brian forgotten them all I know it's hard it's tough coming back not easy All right. A couple of quick things. Play retro today, 3.30 Mountain Time. We're back at it. Missed a week. We're back. Me and Brian Dunaway. We're talking about age of empires today. And it's significant impact on PC gaming of years past and where it's all come to today. So check that out. Play retro. Today, 330 Mountain Time right here at frogpants. TV or the podcast. Quick email before we leave. Scooby Dad wrote in says, Dear S&B. Sorry I couldn't think of a clever opening, he says. Wow. About your recent...
Starting point is 01:36:11 That much of a hurry to write us that you can't even take a minute to think of like an S&B thing. That lady's plunger is a clever opening, by the way, I would say. Anyway, about your recent discussion regarding circles and roundabouts. I think they're the same thing, just regional names, like subs, heroes, grinders, and hoagies. I've attached a photo of a now removed track. It's traffic circle in Ashbury Park, New Jersey, I didn't include it here. You can imagine how much fun it was to navigate. It was pretty wacky.
Starting point is 01:36:36 So that's a good point. Maybe this is like soda and pop. or, you know, whatever. Could be, yeah. I mean, I thought we, there was something about the differences that we found. Because it was a website that said it was like either a, you're going straight at it and turn into it or you do the curve onto it or something. Like, we found a website that showed the differences between roundabouts and traffic circles.
Starting point is 01:37:02 But maybe not. I mean, it's on the internet. It doesn't necessarily mean it's true, right? It's true, but we did some pretty good research, I thought. But, man, you know, changing a regular intersection to a roundabout feels like a much easier transition than taking out a roundabout where you've expected one and turning it into just a regular intersection. I agree. That would throw me. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:37:23 That would, oh, I don't even want to think about what people are, dumb people are going to be for the next two weeks. They're already dumb enough with the original thing that's sitting there. How do I expect that to get any better? It's not going to. All right. Tomorrow, Wednesday, we got all our Wednesday business. So be back for that. We'll be back with Tom and recommendals and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Very exciting. That will be tomorrow. Did you watch a lot of... I mean, are you going to recommend a love boat? I hope that. I hope you got something else. No, it will not be the love boat. Probably going to recommend a movie I saw on the boat, though.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Cool. Yeah, I had a really good time. They showed Dune on the deck one night. That was really cool. It's like... Interesting. And that's where you can sit in the pool and watch it, right? Float the pool and that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Yeah, we were in the hot tub for that, but it was awesome. I liked the little public hot tubs because once you got in, it was a pretty good chance nobody was going to join you and say, hey, you got room for us? Like, that never happened. Good. No, stay the heck out. It was nice. Plus it was kind of cold on deck, so
Starting point is 01:38:23 you know, it felt like we kind of had the Lido deck to ourselves. It was nice. Cool. Thanks for the email, Scooby Dad. If you want to be like him, send your emails to the morning stream at gmail.com. A quick patron mention. We got a brand new patron named Mindy Allen who just joined the show as a patron the
Starting point is 01:38:38 last couple of days. Hey, Mindy, thanks for being awesome and joining us. It's a brand new month. Perfect time to jump on. She did, so could you. Check it out at patreon.com slash TMS. Say, hired a morgue for us. I get it. Mindy Allen. That wasn't her, wait, was that her real name? That wasn't her name.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Mindy McConnell was her character name. That's another show. Let's require knowledge being this close to Boulder, though. So it's okay. It's all right that you didn't know. That's true. Pam Dauber, guest star on the Love Boat on any of the episodes you saw? None that I saw, but I'll bet she was on there. She had to have been there.
Starting point is 01:39:11 There was, uh, um, Eddie Albert was in a kind of a fun one. Oh, sure. Yeah. The Green Acres dude. I mean, most of these people are dead. Yeah, exactly. They're pulling from, uh, and I forgot. Jim Neighbors.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Absolutely Jim Neighbors was on one. The guy that played not Mr. Furley, that would have been Don Nott's, although I'm sure he did too. Oh, uh, right. Mr. Roper, which was Norman Fell. Yes, Norman Fell was on there. Good call. I can never remember his name. Listen, if we ever want to do a trivia thing where it's named this 70s actor by the character they played, I might actually have a wheelhouse. You probably do, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:48 The guy was the pilot and airplane was on there. Robert Hayes. Look at you, dude. This is amazing. We might have to do that. I might come up a little pre-show. This might be a little fun, yeah. Yeah, I haven't done the stump Brian in a while.
Starting point is 01:40:01 We'll give that a shot. All right. I talked to Daryl while I was out there. Did you know he's going to attempt to build a complete replica of the season three Orville ship? Oh, really? And apparently it's hard as hell because they got like... So many swooping curves and stuff like that. I don't know how you'd even do it.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Like why? Oh, what a, what a job. Wow, good for him. That's a great... He's really, he's now the Orville nerd. He's no longer, like, he's been burned too many times by track. I think he's the Orville nerd now. You're right?
Starting point is 01:40:33 Yeah. Time to change your Twitter account again there, bud. All right. That's it for the show. We're out of here. Again, like we said, back tomorrow and other cool stuff in between. Brian will play us a song now, though, so we can go. What do you got?
Starting point is 01:40:46 Yeah, I'm going to be heading to this guy's Nick of the Woods here in a couple days. Tom Robinson from Orange County says, good morning, gentlemen. As I request each year at this time, I want to wish Jessica a very happy birthday. As friends go. She is awesome. And as it works out, the last three times we've been able to see each other. It's been at TMS Vegas. I would like to request eye in the sky by AWOL Nation before Hammond Chamberlain does.
Starting point is 01:41:12 And Scott, I don't know if I should be to blame or take the credit for requesting sound bites in their requests. But as I do, I usually request play a random film sack clip and try to guess the movie. He might have been the first to ever request that. Yeah. I'm actually, so this is a great timing because I started to, and I'm not done with it yet, but I started to, when I can figure it out separate old film sack clips that I've kept
Starting point is 01:41:37 from the main ones that we do for the show so that I know where they came from and so this will be even better so all right so here's here's a random one clip that yeah here's a here's a random one let's see if we got what we got what we need here we go
Starting point is 01:41:52 Zeus's butthole oh that's that is uh vampires kiss Nicholas Cage was it Zeus is or wait the kiss of the vampire yeah what's that one where he's like so bad a b c d e fg h i jk elemental p yeah i think that's the one he's got you know pissed blood he yells the same and everything he's in so he does yeah all right well see there you go random clip and from now on when you ask for these dude i'll have him at the ready so
Starting point is 01:42:24 oh win megis is right that was from the rock it is yeah it's it's a cageism but it's not that Cageism. Oh, well, I have a longer version. Let's see what it says. How in the name of Zeus's butthole did you get out of yourself? Oh, it's right. Yeah, Connery's in there saying, you ever riffed the prom queen and all that? That's the moment.
Starting point is 01:42:46 All right. You ever lose your prom queen? You ever if your car keys? I knew that was coming, but it wasn't right. Sorry. All right. All right. So where were we? I don't know. A song. You're playing a song. Tom Robinson wants to hear Eye in the Sky by Awall Nation. They're joined by Beck. This is from their brand new cover album, which is called My Echo, My Shadow, My Covers, and Me. It is such a great cover album, Awall Nation. A lot of great guest stars on this thing, too. Here they are covering Alan Parsons, much to Hammond Chamberlain's wishes. The song is, I in the sky. Don't say words are gone and regret. Don't let the fire rush to your head.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Don't let the fire rush to your head. I've heard the accusations before And I ain't gonna take any more Believe me The sun in your eyes Made some of the last one's believing I am the eye in the sky Looking at you
Starting point is 01:44:21 Who I can lead your mind I am the maker rules Dealing the fooling the fool I can cheat your blind And I don't need to see any more to know that I can meet your mind I can meet your mind I can meet your mind
Starting point is 01:44:50 I can meet your mind Don't be false solution behind I don't cry because I ain't change in my mind so find another fool like before
Starting point is 01:45:15 because I ain't going to live anymore believing some of the lines all of the signs are deceiving In the eye of the sky, looking at you, I can lead your mind. I am the maker of rules, dealing with fools.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I can cheat your blind. And I don't need to see any more to know that. I can lead your mind. I can read your mind. I can lead your mind I can need your mind I am the eye in the sky looking at you
Starting point is 01:46:12 I can lead your mind I am the liquor of rules dealing my tools I can change your mind and I don't need to see any more to know that I can lead your mind I can lead your mind
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