The Morning Stream - TMS 2345: Sweet Pickle Peanuts

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

I Bless the rain down in Aaaanaheimmmm. No Batmans allowed. Gary of the Planet Lantronix. International House of Garbage Pancakes. I spent most of the time looking at my crotch. Ram That Pill! I'm gla...d no one brought a black light. Peanut Asparagus Substitutiary Locomotion. Got the Diarheear this mornin. All the Hot Sauces. All the hot sauces. Me, Lawrence Fishbourne, and 98 Randos. Oogie Boogey Shaming. Going Long With Boner-X and Dan. Rolling a D23 with Steven and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, I bless the rain down in Anaheim. No Batman's allowed. Gary of the Planet Landtronics. International House of Garbage Pancakes. I spent most of the time looking at my crotch. Rame that pill. I'm glad no one brought a black light. Peanut asparagus substitutiary look of motion.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Got the diarrhea this morning. All the hot sauces, all the hot sauces. Me, Lawrence Fishburn, and 98 randos. Oogie, boogie shaming. Going long. with Boner X and Dan. Rolling a D-23 with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Hello, it's me again. I'm in the bathroom sitting on the park right now. I got diarrhea this morning. I deem me a woman to help me out. So bad, it's unreal. Goodbye. Products, products, products, products, products, products, products, products, products. This is the morning stream.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's just what the doctor ordered. Good morning, everybody, everybody, everybody. Let me pronounce that. It's Monday, September 12th, 2022. It's the morning stream. TMS. I'm Scott. He's Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Hi, Brian. Welcome back from California. oh thank you it's so good to be back yeah yeah yeah yeah it never rains in southern california i heard but then it did well you were there what did you do what did you do you lies oh man i heard this from tom first he says oh it's raining outside this never happens yeah it was it was raining hard too like we walked uh we had dinner with ashley and jason and Jason Inman of Jupiter Jet and Red Shirt Diaries fame
Starting point is 00:01:55 and it was sprinkling when we got there and we're like, you know, it might be fine. We don't need to take a lift back. Sure enough, we get outside, it's kind of, you know, kind of light. And we only had maybe about a quarter mile, half mile walk to our
Starting point is 00:02:13 hotel. By the time we got there, we were soaked. It had like started coming down heavier and heavier along the way. But, And I assume that means some good general humidity for the rest of the time because... For sure. It was already muggy. And after the two days of rain, two evenings of rain, it was like, oh, this is just, yeah, this is just...
Starting point is 00:02:35 Because that rain's got to go somewhere, man. It can't just sit there. It's got to evaporate and soak into your soul. Hang in the air. Although, you know, still, it was a lovely time. We got to see Gary of the Planet Landronics, Batuan of the month for the month of August, by the way. Very nice. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Well done. He is beloved there in Batu, in the off-world Black Spire Outpost. He's kind of alien. I like it fits well, I've always thought. I always felt like Gary had an alien quality to him, you know? Just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Kind of, yeah. I think it's like the perfect role. The perfect scoundrel role for him. Why not? Walking around, teaching people how to play Sabak and guiding people. in the ways of the forest, that sort of thing. I got to see Randy Jordan. We had breakfast in a diner where the woman who served us easily could have had a cigarette
Starting point is 00:03:32 dangling from her mouth if, you know, if that were allowed in restaurants in California, but nope. Nice. Was this like roadside? Tell me more. I love these kind of places. Oh, it was the original pancake house. And judging by the look of it, it looked like it could have been the original original pancake house.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah. Um, it was, uh, uh, although Randy says he thinks the first one might have been in Seattle, but, um, it, you know, it, it was a, it was a good little diner. I think there are, there are a couple here in Colorado. There are a couple in other parts of the country now, but it started out, um, on the west coast. Uh, decent pancakes. Maybe, maybe, uh, maybe, uh, if DePars is the 10, these guys are maybe an eight. It's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. I was going to say, I thought you were going to land in the four or five range, but eight's pretty good. No. No. No. You know, you know, we know, you've got pancake house in your name, well, I was going to say that you automatically succeed, but the international house of pancakes has garbage pancakes. So I can't really, I can't really use that descriptors. That's true. When I go to IHOP, any iteration of IHop, the pancakes are always bad. Yeah. I don't know why. They're just, they're chalky. Portland, Oregon. Thank you, A.V. Tech John. So the original pancake house was formed in Portland, Oregon. Of course. Freaking Portland with all their hipster freaking. We did it
Starting point is 00:04:49 first bullshit you guys out there you guys yeah it is funny though i mean you open a restaurant was it was it called the original pancake house when they opened the first one it probably wasn't right it was called the pancake house yeah because they didn't and then iHop probably came out and they said oh we need to change our name to the original pancake house but then you open other locations only your first one is the original pancake house that's right that's right you can only only from then on be the second the third the fourth whatever right exactly yeah that naming it's like calling something the new super mario brothers you there's no there's nowhere to go from there you've locked yourself i completely agree i do like a good diner though i don't care even sometimes if the food's
Starting point is 00:05:34 bad there's something about the experience that i always glom on to i love it for sure that's great and um uh every everywhere we went um every place we had breakfast California, Southern California anyway, is on point for having a bazillion hot sauces on the table to choose from to dump onto your eggs, which I love. Just keep that, keep that magic happening. Yeah, you don't want just one. You want all of them. I want all the hot sauces. Bring me all the hot sauces you have.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I don't think you hurt me, son. That's right. Son, I don't think you hurt me. Bring me all the bacon and things you have. Uh, so, uh, got to hang in them in the aforementioned Ashley and Jason, who are just awesome people. They're just so cool and, and they're great. They're getting a chance to talk to them and. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:24 The fresh, the fresh face nerds of Hollywood. I love them. They really are. They're like king and queen of the prom, those two, I swear. Yeah. Um, all right, let's talk panels because the first thing I got asked when I logged in, uh, to chat this morning was, did you get into Hall H for the Marvel, uh, presentation? And let me tell you, so that was Saturday morning, early, early Saturday morning, got up early and got shuffled down into the waiting queue and moved into the big hall where celebrities came out on stage.
Starting point is 00:07:02 However, they were the celebrities from National Geographic's critter fixers, Dr. Paul, veterinarian, and Animal Kingdom. veterinarians. Which, you know, no shame, no shade. Those guys are great, but... Those guys are great. You know, that was actually a really cool panel because I'll bet you the Marvel panel didn't have people bring out live ferrets, snakes, a fuzzy armadillo, which I'd never seen before.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And so that was kind of cool. They also had me sitting in the third row of the audience with my phone looking stealthily down in my lap watching the live blog. of the Marvel announcement. I was going to say, you would still, even if you're in there, you're still going to find a way
Starting point is 00:07:51 to like tap into the thing you meant to be in. If I would have had my AirPods with me at the, at the event, it seriously would have been, I would have been the guy sitting there in church
Starting point is 00:07:59 watching the Packers game, basically. That's great. Were you able to follow it pretty well, I guess? Probably good. Yeah, absolutely. It was,
Starting point is 00:08:07 it was great kind of watching all that stuff get announced. And then basically, you know, we got back to the hotel room. I watched all the teaser trailers and, you know, all right. So I didn't get to see Tom Hiddleston come out and brush past you with whatever amazing cologne he'd be wearing and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Exactly. Or Sophie, you know, she-loki. Oh, Shloki. I call her Shloki. Can we call her Shloki? Yeah, Shloki. I guess her name is, Sophie is her name on the show, right? Sophia.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Sophia. Sophia. I know the actress name is Loki. I don't know. Yeah, Lekea. Anyway, but yeah, it would have been nice to be in that hall and get to see everything there.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Now, I will say this. One of the panels that we did get accepted into was for a new Marvel property animated series called Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, which is a couple of newer characters that they've introduced. Teenage African-Americans American superhero who is as smart as Tony Stark.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And so it's this animated series. We watched it with none other than Lawrence Fishburn, who's the executive producer on the show, in a room that maybe held 100 people. Much smaller than the 7,500 people in Hall H. So there's that. Wow, Fishburn commanding quite the little audience there. That's awesome. he really was yeah and then they brought out the rest of the cast sadly uh i definitely heard
Starting point is 00:09:48 alison brie in they what they let us watch the entire first episode which doesn't come out until september 23 they took away our phones so we couldn't record any of it or take pictures or anything like that and um uh so i and they also said no spoilers but you can talk about watching it you can talk about if you enjoy it or not and i did it we did enjoy it a lot very into the spider verse meets Powerpuff girls in the animation style. Oh. Like a lot of, you know, the characters, you know, words coming out of the characters' actions and reactions,
Starting point is 00:10:27 not just what they're saying, but like also, you know, like you get emojis and stuff when somebody reacts to something. Speaking Carter's language. I don't know if she's in the chat today, but that sounds like her jam. Oh, yeah. She'll totally, totally, uh, totally, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:41 totally dig that um what else oh yeah they gave us a free like they gave us all plush double dinosaurs oh my gosh van would kill you for that he would murder you take it from your body oh that's right he loves dinosaurs he loves him loves him when's his birthday uh January so you got a ways oh okay well who knows we still have one ramp in plastic so we'll see all right uh just like the body on twin peaks it's perfect what else let's see oh and then
Starting point is 00:11:16 we basically bookended the whole event with Disneyland went to Disneyland on the first day the day we arrived and Anaheim dropped everything
Starting point is 00:11:25 off of the hotel oh yeah also got to talk about meeting Craig Craig Craig is does marketing for the Cambria
Starting point is 00:11:34 or Cambria hotel in Anaheim brand new hotel and this hotel made me wish that BlizzCon was still a thing because this is exactly where Tristan and I would be staying. Is it close? Is it right near the convention? It's right near the conventions. I mean, it's a, it's a 15, 20 minute walk to the convention center.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So just about as far as where we used to stay down, not as close as the Hilton, obviously, which is right next door. But it's just down Ketella a little bit. That's cool. That's not far at all. Easily close enough that, you know, you can walk and not have the mayhem in the nonsense going on at the Hilton and the Marriott and stuff that are right next to it. He's even doing a, and I'll have, I recorded some video stuff about the trip and Disneyland and Ogibu Unite in the hotel, but he's going to do a TMS discount. So if you go to Cambriess, Anaheim.com and do L-TMS for Love TMS, you get a discounted room
Starting point is 00:12:39 rate. Um, so you can go to Disneyland. This place is so cool. This hotel has like water slides, big old pool in the back. We, I, I went hung out the pool when I kind of had enough of the people at D23. Sure. Which happened a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little much. It's a little much. I get it. It is a little much. Yeah. Um, anyway, so we'll talk about that, the hotel in the video, but definitely, definitely very cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, the BlizzCon thing, comparing Blis, D23 and blizzcon just kind of a really quick side by side blizcon
Starting point is 00:13:11 very dark right like they it was it was dark inside the expo with just lights where they needed lights to be on just you know the vendors and this food thing and and the arenas and stuff like that they felt like they had all the lights on
Starting point is 00:13:30 for D23 every light in the Anaheim convention is that because there's a ton of like cosplay walking around and stuff? Is that why they do it? I think so. And I think also just the vibe is very different like, Disney is all like, oh, okay, hi, you know, happy all that stuff. While BlizzCon is like,
Starting point is 00:13:47 I killed my father and took his sword and blah, blah, blah, and I've got to defeat the demon. Yeah, I think you're right. There is something to do that. That's why they do that, I think. But the, um, uh, makes it seem bigger though when they do it dark, right? Like it seems like a much more cavernous sort of experience. Yeah, it totally does. Um, for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:07 The, uh, the cosplay was great. Again, you know, kind of a thing similar to BlissCon where, as opposed to a Comic-Con where you can dress up as anything, if you go to BlizzCon or you go to D23, you're kind of limited to, nope, I pretty much can only cosplay as something from Disney, uh, you know, Disney studios or from Blizzard. Um, you're not going to see a Batman cosplay there.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You're not going to see a Batman cosplay now. That's a shit. Uh, this was the only like every vendor there had a huge long line if you wanted to buy their stuff and that was the same at BlizzCon
Starting point is 00:14:45 I remember if you wanted to go to the Jink store you basically had to wait in a 20 minute line to get in but so we had to be really picky and choosy about like all right well do we really think we're going to buy anything there? Nope then let's not wait in line. They had box lunge
Starting point is 00:15:00 and Funko and stuff like that we did wait in line for Roosevelt which is the shirt I'm wearing today. It is the D23 exclusive Groguu t-shirt, or I'm sorry, a buttoned up shirt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Nice little Hawaiian shirt with Grogu and a bunch of frogs on it. Yeah. All right. Cool. So that was kind of fun. And then lastly, I'll just talk really quickly about Oogie Buggy Bash. So starting in September, late August, you know, 55 days before Halloween,
Starting point is 00:15:32 Disney starts celebrating Halloween by closing California adventure at 6 p.m. And opening it up only to this event called Oogie Buggy Bash, where they take out all of like Buzz and Woody and all that stuff and replace them with villains. So you get Agatha Harkness and Zombie Captain America and Cruella DeVille and Ugui Boogie, of course. Ugy Boogie Dice Tomato asking, you apparently need to watch A Nightmare Before
Starting point is 00:16:05 Christmas, Dice Tomato. Yeah, Dice Tomato. What are you talking about in there? Are you, you uncultured swine. You must watch that film. What is oggy-buggy? Oh, man. They set up tree trails where, like, you go through and, you know, they give you a bag
Starting point is 00:16:21 at the entrance and you walk through these tree trails and they shove snickers and M&Ms in your bag. Turn on the dark versions of all the rides. So Guardians of the Galaxy has a. Halloween theme where Rockets trying to save Groot and the car's ride has some Halloween stuff and
Starting point is 00:16:43 and all things like that. What else? The parade, which I thought was going to be kind of lame, turned out to be actually kind of technologically cool. That's good. I always think parades are going to be lame until they're not, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Totally, yeah. Default position on parades is they're going to be bad, but I'm glad to hear that wasn't. That's good. But anyway, anyway, Anyway, yeah, it was a great time. It was a really good weekend and glad to be back home, glad to return to normalcy. Big thanks to 9 of 12 for her impersonation of me over there at TMS Asheville. Killer, killer version of Brian. I mean, even the face, get on. Greetings, greetings, citizens. Put me up on Guess the Connection. Greetings. Cracked me up pretty hard.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. Well, good. I'm glad you're home. I had watched that in the airport and I watched the entirety of that. Did, good. I'd call in thing. You had a whirlwind couple of weeks, so it's probably nice to settle a little. I am so glad. No more travel for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's good to have a little space between that stuff. Yeah. Well, all right. Well, awesome. Yeah. Well, later on, when Stephen gets here, we're going to go a little deeper into stuff they actually talked about at the Marble event, so stick around for that. If you wanted the Dietz, we'll have those.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But for now, we're going to do a thing we're going to do on the monthly. You know, when PM, you got. changed around. Everyone said, where did Dan go? Right. And I said, well, he didn't go anywhere. We're just going to figure out a way to squeeze him in here because we like Dan and we don't want to lose out on Dan time. And so, ladies and gentlemen, I bring you some additional Dan time if he answers this call, which I am currently ringing him at. If he picks this up, then we know we're in good shape. There he is right there. Now, if I hit this, here's a tangent for him. be careful may cause drowsiness hey look who it is it's our old pal dan dan what's going on
Starting point is 00:18:42 what is what's up man i feel like we haven't talked to you in a thousand years what's going on greetings programs boy i've missed you guys this is like uh it's like a new building in here it's been so long and like i'm not drinking a beer because it's not happy hour like i wasn't p m i actually have coffee now so this is uh we send a lot of the employees home they're working virtually now uh we closed off uh the the commissary No one's using it. Yeah. Fire the janitors.
Starting point is 00:19:07 This is why I don't feel anybody breathing on the back of my neck when I'm on here because all the employees are gone. That's right. Actually, this is a bit of a step up in a weird way because now patrons and non-painters like to hear Dan's hot takes on the world around us. Yeah, it's awesome. You know, more great game goodness and just crazy pharmacy crap for the world to hear now. I'm excited about that. I am too.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Brian, can I ask you one thing about D23? Ask anything about D20. It's game-related. and I think it was on a floor, so I don't know if you got a chance to see this. So Disney, well, Ravensburger and Disney just announced a CCG called Disney Lorcanna. It's basically like Disney's version of Magic the Gathering for easy,
Starting point is 00:19:48 just for ease of talking about it. I mean, obviously, it's going to be a little bit different, but that's kind of what it's going to be. And it's funny because they had a booth there at D23, and they were also kind of given away these, I mean, I wish I would have realized you were up there if I had been paying more attention. I would have been,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I would have told you. early in the weekend to see if you can get over there to get one of these these kind of like collectors pack that they were given away for D-23 with all these cards and starter set the game is not supposed to be out for another year but they were given away all this crap for the games and stuff like that and always amazes me.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm looking with the logo right now. I never saw this anywhere and we basically between panels just spent all the time walking around the show floor and I did not see anything about this. This looks really cool like an actual
Starting point is 00:20:34 physical, collectible trading card game as opposed to something digital. Yeah, I didn't see that coming. That's cool. Yeah, and it's, I mean, looking at some of the cars and stuff, it doesn't look, so it's funny because, you know, being Disney, and I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this, Disney likes money.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, they're super into it. Yeah, they're super into it. Yeah. They love you. They're going to have to make this game, you know, good for just pretty much everybody. So you're going to have to bring in the hardcores, the kids, the, you know, the just people without kids,
Starting point is 00:21:02 people just love Disney too, that may not be in the gaming. So it's going to be interesting to see how they put this game together. And looking at some of the cards, it's interesting to see the complexity is kind of a little all over the place because it doesn't look too bad.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And you try to figure out because there's really not a big rule set that I found out there yesterday, just the kind of the tease of the cards. So, you know, it looks like you kind of do a lot of the similar battling to Magic the Gathering looks like, but I think there's going to be like you can
Starting point is 00:21:27 kind of replace a base Mickey with a different type of Mickey and things like that, you know, for a character to different things. types of those characters for battle. So, again, no idea how it's going to play. I just, I'm just hoping it's fun.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah, I wish I would have seen this because I would have totally weighed in line to grab a, you know, sample pack or whatever it was. They were given away. Yeah. That would have been cool. Didn't we get a, sorry, go ahead, Dan. Oh, I was going to say the light consumerism there is out there. They were given away just kind of some promo cards here and there, other than the pack.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I think they had like single promo cards. People are putting them up on eBay for like $400 bucks already. Jeez. It's unbelievable. 400. Oh, my lord. Yeah, that CCG world, freaking magic world, and the money people spend, insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 To me. Real quick here, didn't they announce a release date in the States for Snap? Yes, they did. October 18th for Marvel Snap, so a little over a month. Nice. Yeah, at some point, what I'd like to do is do a video or like do a thing where you and I, I teach you the game and everybody who watches the stream.
Starting point is 00:22:33 let's do that before it comes out so that yeah so you can see all right here's here are the different kind of decks that you want to put together as soon as you get the game and and uh i'm down they all work totally down that's a great that was great i mean it's super excited for that and i i never got in to uh me neither yeah i way i didn't want to jump through the hoops to do the international download and i just don't know i just didn't bother but now we have a date it's like all right i have something to look forward to gonna crack it open brian knows all the the ropes he can show us what's up. It was a perfect passing the time while I was waiting in line for stuff and there was a lot of waiting in line for stuff. Oh yeah. That's the name of the game at D23.
Starting point is 00:23:10 The convention world waiting in line of the game. Exactly. There you go. All right. Hey, Dan, I got a question for you from a listener. Are you ready for this? Yes, indeed. So for all, for those unaware, for those who never heard a PM episode of the show, Dan is not only a huge enthusiast about tabletop and board gaming. He is also a full-time professional. dude in the medical business, specifically pharmaceuticals, and sometimes we had questions about this stuff. So we thought it would be fun to turn this segment into, hey, here's a cool game Dan found out about. But also, here's a question that maybe people have about, you know, the world about the biotech and pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals. They often call me a doctor of pharmacy, which I am.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, you're a doctor of pharmacy. Exactly. I like that. Yeah, I am a doctor of pharmacy. I like that a lot. All right. So this guy named Terrell wrote in, and he said this, Dear Morning Stream People, I have a question for Dan for the next time he's on. Well, your day has come in. Your boat has come in, Terrell. He says, is it true that doctors often recommend certain meds to patients because they get kickbacks from biotech companies, not because it's good for the patient? Is his perspective different through or enough to shed some light on this, meaning you, Dan? Thanks, says Terrell. I often wondered this as well, because I've been to a couple of different doctors. in a row because of insurance change and one of them was recommending one thing and i get to the other one and they're recommending something else when i said well wait with this last guy recommended that and he goes oh that's probably just because he has samples and was told and you know he he he doesn't know about this one or whatever and it just seemed like they were weirdly brand focused like so so by your by the sound of your yep it sounds like there's something to this so i've got of you'll get a lot of questions and I'm telling you between myself, Dr. Tolbert and
Starting point is 00:25:01 Buckeye Fitsy, the legal geek, we could do like a three-hour show talking about the legalities of this sort of thing, but I'll simplify it as best as I can. This is another one of those things where it's not legal anymore, but it is legal anymore. So it's one of these is where you can get away with a lot of things and a lot of lawyers will tell you it's not what's illegal. It's not what is right or wrong. It's what I can prove in a way. Oh God. And a lot of times you don't really, and there was the Wild West. So the mid-90s, when I was in pharmacy school, I did rotations with some doctors. I did a rotation with a private, a buddy of mine that was a doctor in a private office in the middle of Benson, North Carolina. And that was still kind of
Starting point is 00:25:40 the end of the Wild West. So there are legislation. So in all different industries, there's anti-kickback statutes. And they've kind of specified a lot of it into the drug world as well. A lot of times because it has a lot of government involvement. And a lot of times you're not going to see a lot of this stuff, unless it has to do with Medicaid and Medicare. Like, when you're talking about bringing patients in, you know, we're getting away from the drug just for a second. But when we're talking about, like, bringing patients to one place or another with kickbacks, that'll really get you in trouble. And they've really cut back on that because there was a lot of Fagasy stuff going on to get certain patients to go to certain practices and stuff. So we're not talking
Starting point is 00:26:16 about that, but that is very highly illegal. And they look about stuff. And it tells you, like, who's really looking out to nail it to the wall is also big farmer. Like, if they stay off of each others toes, you know, if everybody's getting a little slice of a pie, nobody's really making a big deal. But when the government starts losing their slice of a pie, then it's a big deal. So in the mid to late 90s, my buddy had, I kid you not, he had a refrigerator in his office that was given to him by a drug company. He had golf clubs that were given to him by a drug company. And we would have, we would have meals constantly. There'd be dinners. There'd be golf. We went to a golf tournament that was completely paid for. So some of that stuff can still,
Starting point is 00:26:54 you can still get away with some of that stuff. Obviously, the refrigerator stuff, you can't do that crap anymore. Like, you cannot benefit that way. It has to be basically either educationally based. Again, there's ways around a lot of the stuff, and there's federal laws, there's state laws. All the stuff is, is a little bit different now. They've really clamped down, but you still can get some of this stuff and they've hide it. Like, so in pharmacy, like, we would see some of this stuff usually by continuing education. So we would get like dinners from, you know, company x they'll have like a dinner with a speaker and that speaker is going to talk about this drug class but then at the end he's going to be like well use my boner x because it's a
Starting point is 00:27:31 lot better than all the other boner pills out there you know so you'll see stuff like that so can i trademark that name really quick by the bonner x but but again so you have um and again i don't want to talk about like there are some of the best looking men and women i've ever seen in my life are drug raps and there's a reason for that you know uh listen i'm not And it definitely helps because you remember the people you talk to. And from seeing some of these drug reps, and again, the drug reps coming into my office in pharmacy and when I was doing rotations, every drug that they come in to talk about, there's something that makes it the greatest thing in the world. There may be 10 other things that they're not telling you about, but this is why this drug is the same thing. Nowadays, almost every single, and Scott, you're a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:28:19 because uh and um and excuse me for Scott I may use the wrong medication and I'm not I don't want to avoid HIPAA but I think there was a time where you were on an ACE inhibitor and there's a lot there's there's a billion ACE inhibitors and most of the especially now because it's been so long most of the good
Starting point is 00:28:35 ones are generic so it was either like Lysynapril Quintapril Ramapril those are all generic ACE inhibitors some of them are pennies some of them are like $10 to $20 but none of them are the greatest thing in the world like as far as the newest and latest thing Because you don't need, they're what they call Me Too drugs, because they're all the same drug class.
Starting point is 00:28:53 There's not really, I mean, there are, again, I'm generalizing, there's not really huge difference between drug A and drug B in this class. There may be little differences, and most doctors will know the little differences. But, you know, if you got three different brand names in that, you know, the newest, latest brand name of that, they may come in in and be like, hey, Dr. Ribbitt, hey, this one has shown to reduce mortalities by 2.002% in elderly male. said we got to get you to write this one for us and then it'll be like oh and how would you like would you like Outback for lunch tomorrow how many people do you have in here so and again they
Starting point is 00:29:27 they also regulate that where it's only a certain amount of money they can spend and then they have to log everything kind of like um again it's a little it's a little bit of apples to oranges but let's just say Scott you get just company Ibidex you know drug not drug company
Starting point is 00:29:43 Ibidex video company video game company wants you to do a game on A direct subsidiary of Bonerax, by the way. Bonaracts, yeah. We're the producer of Bonaract. Ivacan International. Sure. What wants you to do the, want you to review this video game.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Ibacan, the pharmaceuticals. He wants you to do the new game for, oh, what's his name, Don Chito. What do we just say? Armour Wars. Yeah, I want you to do the official video game for Armour Wars. And I'm going to give you $1,000 to review it on stream. you're not holding anybody for lack of a better term
Starting point is 00:30:18 you're not holding anybody at gunpoint and you're not prescribing that game to people so it's a little bit different because you're not the one you're just influencing them but you're still going to want to say hey I was paid for this review yeah you do usually
Starting point is 00:30:28 yeah you're supposed to when you're getting things like as far as samples are a different thing because that's just you're passing on the savings to the customers and stuff and still getting people started on your med but if you're getting like free things in here there's a lot of logs and stuff that
Starting point is 00:30:44 a lot of, you know, it's pretty common now that, you know, HR or the wife's manager. Does a doctor have to, like, let's say a doctor gets, like the Outback Steakhouse thing, are they in or any obligation with the patient that they talked to that day to go, oh, I think you really should try this one, small disclaimer, hashtag ad, I, I'm going to lunch tomorrow at a thing for free because they gave me this. I had Outback, I had a blooming onion because of this. No, they wouldn't have to say anything like that. As far as I know, they would have, but they may have a log somewhere of all the drug reps that have come in, just so if any governing body wants to come in and say, oh, hey, have you seen this drip rep or that?
Starting point is 00:31:24 They're usually checking up on the companies rather than the doctors. Yeah. And again, unless you're making big waves or writing, you know, if you've got Medicaid patients and you're putting everybody on this $5,000 a day med, which probably needs a prior authorization anyway. But if you're putting them on all of stuff, you're going to raise, you know, raise weights. and stuff like that. And also, so the government, um, allegedly, well, I wouldn't say allegedly because I know it's true, but the government also has its own ways of kind of, I wouldn't call them kickbacks, but they're called rebates. So all formularies, because I work kind of more in the, in that sector now where it comes to like doing formulary management and, uh, and prioritizations.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So when you're talking about Medicaid, they'll get rebates from companies. So the reason why nothing's wrong with that is because they're really passing on the, the savings kind of onto the patient and they're getting the patient of medicine. It's just that they are getting their own, for lack of a better term, kickback from the drug companies to write. So you'll have some formularies, like there are states and Medicaid programs where you use, let's just say Simbacort, which is an inhaler. It's available generically, but the brand name is Tier 1 on formulary and you don't need a prior authorization. So it goes through and it's free for the patient. Now, where is, you know, as far as the public goes, there's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Sure. Especially in my opinion, like, it's just a pain in the butt for, for, for, you know, the pharmacies and doctors to figure out what's on formula. There's always a list online, but, you know, the only people that that's hurting are the generic manufacturer of that particular med because the brand, the patient's getting a brand for free, and they don't care. And it works, you know, again, I'm always a proponent that 99.9% of the time, brand and generic, same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Use whatever's cheaper for you, whatever works for you. Yeah, don't let that, it's like in the, even in the owner counter the world, you're like, it says Kroger, it's fine, dude. It's ibuprofen. Just but make sure you read the labels, especially. the over-the-counter stuff because, and I think, Scott, we had this with some of your stomach meds where it may be called the same thing as another thing, or it may say like stomach-medic medicine, but it's actually a different active ingredient than what you might think it is.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Right. So you always got to look at the active ingredients, because some of them may say it's stomach-medicine, may have jack crap in it. They just have some weird herbal supplement that could interfere with something else that you're taking. So always read the labels. If you're going to take herbs, especially over-the-counter's, always ask your pharmacist about any interactions with what you may be taking prescriptions.
Starting point is 00:33:43 prescription-wise, because some people, they just, they just read something. They may already be on an anti-inflammatory med for their arthritis, and then, you know, prescription-wise, and then they'll go grab something else, which just happens to be able to counter, and it says something like headache medicine, but it's the exact same medicine or in the same class as the other anti-inflammatory, next thing you know, you've got a bleeding ulcer and you're dead. So you don't want to do stuff like that. No, don't do that. Don't be having a bleeding ulcer and die. Don't be doing that. That'd be bad. Plus, they'll find you, and sometimes that blood comes
Starting point is 00:34:12 out of your anus. Nobody wants to see that. We don't want to see that. Yeah. And that's another Yeah, that's another kind of because your blood out of your anus, depending on if it's one color or another, you know, because that actually tells you a lot about where the bleed is coming from. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:28 They need more children's books that say, the color of my blood is dark red. What does that mean? The color of my stool. There's red blood in a school or that you could have a black tarry stool. That's all different kind of areas of where you may be bleeding. From the makers of everybody poops. Everybody bleeds out there. Yeah, everybody bleeds. Just need to know what kind of blood it is. All right. Well, this confirms a lot for me because I kind of had a suspicion. But they don't really talk about it. Nobody talks about this. Like, I feel like it just doesn't come up. It feels like conspiracy a little bit. You know, like, oh. And it is a way a lot less than it used to be. And it's funny because you could tell, especially when I was in retail, you could tell what drug reps got to wear. Because, you know, sometimes they would come to us and be like, oh, you know, Miss Jenkins came in to, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:12 to show off Bonarex. So I saw that Dr. Ribbitt wrote a lot of scripts of Bonar X this week, so she must have made it over to his office today. You know, the use of Dr. Ribbitt is cracking me up since your dad is a doctor, Brian, so it's cracking me up to hear your doctor of it. Yeah, I have him passing around these scripts all day. Yeah, I'm, we need some more Bonarex here at the clinic. Just picturing your dad do it.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, that's, for the most part, drug reps are great because, again, you can't get as, as a doctor and as, you know, as MDs and as a doctor pharmacy, you don't have all the time in a world to, I mean, you go to continuing education a certain amount of year, but you're not, and more and more drugs are coming out. So drug reps are an actual invaluable tool for the companies to get new things, you know, new drugs in front of the eyes. And again, you got to, you always have to do your research as yourself. So if a doctor sees that this drug is the newest thing, you know, in an ACE inhibitors, they're going to have to look and see, well, is it really better than Ramaph, or Acinapril, is it really better for my patients than that? And then sometimes, some people just have like the greatest insurance in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And they're like, I don't care what it costs because my insurance is going to cover it. So they'll just write it for them. Yeah. It's going to be 10 bucks anyway. Yeah, they don't care. If they got the money or the coverage, then just do it. I get that. It's a weird market we live in.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Also, Ramapril sounds like Ramapil, and I'm not interested in your ramapril. Sounds like it's only going up in place. And that is an actual drug. And that's actually a very, very, very, very, very good. good ACE inhibitor for, you know, heart protection and kidney protection. Very good, very good blood pressure medication. It's not the one that doesn't make a cough, does it? Is it one of the cough?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Well, they all can. They all have like a 5% chance or something, right? Yeah, it's just a side effect of that drug class where ACE inhibitors can give you the ACE inhibitor cough, which is harmless. It's just a real pain in the ass. And, you know, nobody wants to have a dry, hacky cough all the time. No, especially when they do podcasting for full time. Freaking F that.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah, kind of a bad, bad combo. Yeah. go and if you're if anyone out there's having trouble with that ask your doctor about losartan that's what they put me on it worked great yep and that's an a ARB which is a kind of an offshoot it's kind of like the improved ACE inhibitors they work a little bit different it worked very similar but different and they still can give you that cough but very it's much more rare with ARBs and they are some good generic ARBs that are out there that are still kind of you know cheaper to get to as well and there's and there's a few brand name
Starting point is 00:37:34 one so again just always talk to your doctor about which one is better for you This is great. I love this. This is like we have a CNBC segment on the show now. Dan, this feels very like, oh, your health today. You know, I love this. And just remember, well, I want to say I can't be bought, but I can be bought for the right price. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:37:55 You know, I will never tell you anything because I have no drug companies. But if Bonorex wants to reach out for me, my email is. We'll let you know. Brian's, Brian has been busy founding the trademark while we're talking. I'm already getting us a reservation at Outback. Yeah, let's do it. Oh, there we go. We're going to go have a good meal and talk about Bono.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Hopefully the meal won't last four hours or longer. I'm in the mood. I'm in the mood for steak, which means I'm in the mood for Los Artan, I guess. Anyway. Hey, I love having you back in a regular way. So let's make this a date every month. We're going to do this at least ones. Can I give you a real cool?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Well, I know, well, you said it's jampack, but if you have time for a game. Yeah, go ahead. I'll be quick with it. So I put it in the chat for us. This is a really cool game. It's very simple. It's like 20 bucks. It's called kites.
Starting point is 00:38:44 It came out from Floodgate games. And now this is what I want to say is sometimes the simplest ideas are the games that go, well, why the hell didn't I think it at are my favorite types of games? So this is a game and it's about you want to keep all your kites flying in the air. And it's a co-op game. So the three of us would be playing together. There are sand timers in this game. So there is, I think the game comes with five or six sand timers and you can play like a simpler game with four.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So you have cards that have different color kites. They may have one color or two colors on it. When you start the game, you flip over one of the sand timers, like the white sand timer. You play a card from your hand. You have to flip over that sand timer. Now, and then all of them start on their side, so they're not automatically all running at first. So as you put cards down, you're flipping over a sand timer. Now, as the sand timers kind of get low, you have to play a card to flip them over.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And the different sand timers have different times. Like the red one goes really fast. The yellow one goes very, very slow. But as we're going around a table, And this is co-op, because we don't want to, we don't want any of the kites to fall. So we're kind of looking at there. And in some co-op games, like the game or the mind, like you can't really talk because that's completely cheating and it'll completely ruin the game. This, talk all you want.
Starting point is 00:39:49 It only takes time, but you don't have time. You know, so there's really no cheating there. You're like, somebody's got to get this right. I got the right. And then somebody else is putting, you know, Brian is putting down the yellow and blue card just to flip over those two. And you've got to keep flipping over these sand timers so that none of them runs out. And if you can get through all your cards, because you'll have a, on the cards to start and then like a small deck.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And as you play a card, you're replenishing. You're trying to get through all the cards and have none of the kites go down. If you play a card with a single color, you flip over the white one. And, you know, that's the only way to flip over the white one is because there's no white ones on the cards. But you're basically just doing a juggling app to keep all the kites in the air. Very, very simple. Just an amazing design just came out this year.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Again, very cheap and a perfect family game. A perfect Johnson game, if you will. A Johnson game. The rules are about two pages. is that all i explained everything for for you right there okay big letters too in the rulebook yeah no kidding big fat letters from my big dumb eyes this is great uh this actually sounds like a whole lot of fun i was i always like a good co-op game so uh this looks up my alley if you guys want to read more go to the board game geek uh website which finally by the way
Starting point is 00:40:57 uh integrated all their functionality into one format they're for the longest time it's oh we've got a new landing page for the game but the image uh looking pages are from 20 years ago and so are the videos but it's so annoying but now it's all integrated it's all very nice now so you can go find it go check it out kites out now all right so all right so long boys dan anytime buddy i'll see you next month i'll talk to you and uh and have a great day stay out of trouble we'll see you by now all right we are going to either have well we got to make a decision we're going to have the the shortest half asses ever or we bump half-hast us to tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:41:41 which I don't like. I don't like doing that either. We can probably do it fast and you know what? Stephen, you're in the chat. How are you feeling? You good? I mean, we've got, I mean, you know, we've just got Stephen in the second half, right?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah, just making sure he's okay. Let's just make sure. Aren't we podcasters? Don't we control how long this episode goes? Ah, there he is. He says his day is open. So good. We're just going to do it our way.
Starting point is 00:42:05 then we're playing half-hasses it does depend on his schedule doesn't it yeah i don't want to assume anything i may you know i can watch hoda and jena any time but uh stephen's got a schedule to me that's true hopefully this uh doesn't foul done away up on his his day but uh should be okay so let's just give it a shot and see where we land do do do do do do that's right it's time for half asses with uh brian dunaway who's on the line right now hi brian oh hi scott and brian hi oh my schedule doesn't matter well it occurred to me that you would
Starting point is 00:42:40 if I didn't get the pickup that might have been assigned but since you picked up I feel like it's okay I'm glad to have you know I'm always easy you're pretty easy I'm always yeah you're like boner X easy back easy boner hey that was fun the other day doing that video we were sad not to have Brian there but thanks for sitting in on that that was a good time it's fun to watch so I felt like I was there in spirit
Starting point is 00:43:04 and in a two-dimensional glued to a ruler stick puppet. Yep, yep. I did want to, the whole experience made me want to hang out with those guys because they're all great people and they all seem to be having a good time. And that house is freaking weird. That was a weird house you all rented. Very weird. But it's fun to experience.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I was trying to wing my options. I was saying myself, oh, man, the decisions I would have to make. Stay in a luxury hotel with water slides or sleep on an astro turf floor with the TP. Yeah. With those weird fake fire things and the little fake tree stumps. Little pillows tree stumps. Yeah. I mean, how can you decide?
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's just too hard. I am glad that nobody brought a black light to that place. There definitely has been some stuff going on there. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. Swings had a lot of convenient holes in places. Let me just say that. Lots of holes.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Anyway, hey, Donaway, it's good to have you here. We're going to play this game. Brian Dibbitt here will explain the rules and how we're going to win stuff. for other people. Brian, take it away. I'll do the abbreviated version. Welcome to the morning. Half-Ass is a trivia game. We're actually going to be giving you to the answers. I'll give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers, three which are correct, and three that are incorrect. Depending on how confident they feel with the category, they can provide one, two, or three guesses, getting one, three or five points depending on how well they do. See how you did
Starting point is 00:44:26 there? Three rounds, player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant, and I've pulled contestants from members of the tadpool. that aren't able to listen live. Scott, you're going to be playing for The Jen over there in Las Vegas. And Brian, you're going to be playing for Chad in Mantica, California, or Menteca. Oh, Jeds. I love me and Chad.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah, you like yourself to Chad. I like The Jen because she needs, look, she's a teacher. You know, you're working on a budget. You don't have time to go grab games. Let's give her some. That's great. Plus, she lives in that little gin lap And she's got to grant the wishes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:05 She's the genie. Hey, Scott, join the game, by the way. Oh, sorry, shit. I got to get in. Sorry. My bad. They were originally called the gins, right? That was what they were called.
Starting point is 00:45:16 We started calling them genies later. Yes, right. Yeah. You called them the gin. You mean the gin, not the gen, but yes. Oh, the gen. The gen. The gen.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah. Tina says, Tina says milk instead of milk. She would say Jen instead of gin. Okay. Well, that works. Yeah. Yeah, whatever it takes. I'm in now.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm now in the game. Let me ask you a quick question. What was it? Oh, did you already say what games they are, or what the prizes are? Oh, prizes today. Winner is going to get a copy of Gauntlet. Gauntlet Lilith the Necromancer. I basically merged those two four first words.
Starting point is 00:45:51 The Gauntlet Slayer Edition and Gauntlet Lilith the Necromancer pack. So the game and DLC. Nice. Courtesy of Racer in N-5-1. That's awesome. It's a good game. Runner up is going to get desperadoes three. We're three desperadoes now.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, runner up might be the big winner. That's an awesome game. It's a very good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very good. Cool. All right, let's get things started. You guys are both logged into the game. Let's give you a first question.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Remember, three of these are real. Three of these are fake. The first one, appropriately enough. Yes, I did search through the deck until I found one. Birds from a Disney movie. So which of these are names? names of birds from a Disney movie. Your choices are Snarfblatt, Nigel, Mimsy, Ducky, Archimedes, and Iago.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Birds. Snarflat. Burbs. Yes, which of these are burbs. Snarfblatt sounds familiar. Starflat. Well, I know a couple of these. B-Boy D is locked in.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, I'll lock this. Scott is locked in. Yeah. Uh, you guys both picked Archimedes. of course, Archimedes from Sword and the Stone. The Seagull, I think, right? I think so. Owl. Owl? Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Al-Duh. Yeah. Iago, of course, the parrot from the Lion King. No, the parrot from Aladdin. Just kidding. Let me see if I get... The voice of the recently deceased Affleck. Gilbert Godfrey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yes. Sadden. Mimsy, which Brian also chose, is not... Mimsy is the is a word from the Jabberwocky poem. Snarfblatt is the pipe from The Little Mermaid, what she calls a pipe, and Ducky is the dinosaur from the Land Before Time.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Neither of you picked that. Nigel, the other one, the penguin from finding, I'm sorry, Pelican from finding Nemo. Oh, so this is what threw me. Oh, that's right. Ducky's not a Disney movie or wouldn't be from a Disney movie. That's a non-Disney property.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So that's true. Well, and Ducky's also a dinosaur. Not a bird. But I'm saying, your category says birds from Disney movies, and that's not a Disney movie. Right. But even if that was a Disney movie. Yeah. Even if the Disney movie.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Yeah. It's still a dinosaur, which, hey, that's where birds came from. I don't argue it. Isn't that where birds came from? The dinosaurs? Okay. All right. See, I made a connection.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Maybe, maybe. Yeah. I watched the JP Dominion. Yeah. They didn't cover it. No. They came from Jesus. Let's get to question number two.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Cities Along the Silk Road. We've covered entertainment. Now let's go to Geography. So which of these six are cities along the Silk Road? Marrakesh, Timbuktu, Almaty, London, Tashkent, or Samarkand? I don't know any of this. Summerkand. I don't know any of this.
Starting point is 00:48:51 More like Somicant. I'm just going to guess. I have no idea. Yeah. It's a tough one. All right. You guys are both locked. in with two each. Neither of you chose
Starting point is 00:49:02 the same ones. I will tell you that each of you chose a correct one. Oh. In one. Incorrect one. Marrakesh and Timbuktu, not along the Silk Road, but Almaty and Tashkent are, which you each chose one of those.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So no points. We are... I haven't been on this Silk Road in a long time. Yeah. Scott, the only person on the board with points right now. Three points for Scott. So, Brian, this is your final questions, your last chance. to try and take the prize.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Here we go. Last one, peanut products invent, sorry, peanut products, products, invented by George Washington Carver. All right. So, product. There, let's see here. A very famous peanut products. Peanut products.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Your choices are peanut silk underwear, peanut lipstick, peanut explosives, peanut laxatives, peanut lachotatives, peanut roof shingles, and peanut asparagus. Erigus substitute. Oh, my lord. All right. I'm going to choose two that seem appropriate for the era, because I don't know about the rest of this.
Starting point is 00:50:11 That's hard, dude. That's a hard one. All right. Both of you locked in. Yeah. Scott with peanut laxatives and peanut explosives. Both of those are correct, giving you three more points. But did Brian manage to make a showing?
Starting point is 00:50:29 No. Brian shows peanut lipstick and peanut roof shingles, neither of which are inventions by George Washington Carver. Blowout today, which we have a things, right? Yeah, they're, well, I mean, no. I don't think you can get a peanut roof shingle, I'm guessing. Maybe. Yeah, I don't think, I mean, I don't know if peanut lipstick is an extra. Yeah, Jimmy Carter, I'll like call up, I'd like call it ex-president, please.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah, he's only 98. My wife's fine. So the reason I chose laxatives and explosives is it sounds like eraspecific. I almost chose asparagus because that just sounds like an old-timey bad idea. Yeah, really, if you ever see one of these with just a really far-out weird answer, like peanut asparagus substitute, you should usually choose it because it's probably an answer. So I don't know what a peanut asparagus substitute, if he shaped it, like basically took peanut butter. and shaped it in the form of asparagus or something?
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't know. Well, that's what I would think, because maybe it has some similar qualities or something. That's what I understand about the peanut laxative. I chose it, but I'm like, yeah, you can't take credit for what was probably already there. You know, they probably have a certain laxative. It pretty much already does it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah. So I just looked at peanuts. I can't find anything that's peanut asparagus, other than people making asparagus and using peanut and peanut oil. to like enhance the flavor or make a part of a dish. But I can't think, I can't find anything where they replaced it. So this must not a stuck. It must have been like a, you know, a weird idea then and it, and it didn't hold on.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Well, if you go to the Tuskegee University, this is an amazing page, tuskegee. You know, list of products made from peanut by a, the peanut by Dr. George Washington Carver. It is a massive list of things, you know, lipstick may not have been on there, but hand lotion, face lotion, vanishing cream, face bleach and tan remover, baby massage cream, shampoo, like just about every other cosmetic you can think of. He's got to be, he would be terrible at parties. Let me tell you what you can do with the peanut.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah. Right, exactly. The commercial, you know where the guy talks about everything you can make with a tree and the grape nuts, old grape nuts commercial. This would have been a 45-minute commercial with George Washington, however talking about. Mock oysters you can make with peanuts. Let me tell you about the magic of peanuts. Mock oysters. I don't know. I might try as mock oysters. I don't like oysters. So maybe I'd like to
Starting point is 00:53:02 sweet pickle. How do you make sweet pickle from peanuts? I don't know. George Washington. All I knew about George Washington Carver was the skit on S&L with Medi Murphy, where he played George Washington Carver and was screaming about peanut stuff. I don't know if you guys remember that. I forgot about that one. Yeah, I still love that. Look that one up. It was really funny. Anyway, well, there you go. Hey, Dunaway, the good news is we have winners. Hey, Brian, so our winner is who here, who won? the gen the gen is going to get a copy of a gauntlet slayer edition listen you've had a whirlwind trip on the road for like eight of the last 12 days or something so copy some slack a copy of a gauntlet slayer edition and gauntlet lilith the necromancer and then chad and mantica is getting desperadoes three yeah chad are going out now
Starting point is 00:53:55 Chad secretly won the best prize. He just doesn't know it yet. Don't say that. Don't say that to Jed. Look, I love the Jen and she'll like her games. I'm just, you know, got to be up front of it. So you're saying, which one got the Slayer edition? The Jen. Was it the seasons in the abyss?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Okay. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah. No. What? I don't get it. No, it was Gontleth is what she won. Yeah, she won't Gantliff. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:24 My Slayer. fans are being slayed right now. Yeah, all your Slayer fan. Oh, Slayer, the band, I get it now. Congratulations. All right, so there's your Scott Fletcher. Congratulations for both of you, because I think you're both winners today. Thanks for playing, and we look forward to having your names on here.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Again, hey, Dunaway, tomorrow we're going to play a little podcast game called Play Retro, where we play old video games. And tomorrow, we are tackling Zelda, the Legend of Zelda and the Legend of Zelda 2. The original NES titles are getting the treatment tomorrow. So we are diving straight in the link. One was good and one was poo. I disagree about what you would be wrong. I think you're going to be wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But we're going to talk all about it. It's origins, what it led to, why it's such a significant series and why, you know, the world, you know, if there's two characters people know in the world the most in gaming, it's Mario and it's Link. I mean, Link is in a very nice little second place. Well, we'll talk about why. And they were being developed, they were being developed practically the same time. and we're essentially pitted against each other to go in two different directions. That's right. Interesting story behind those two games.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Indeed. If that sounds interesting to you, check out the Play Retro podcast wherever you get your shows or catch us live tomorrow at frogpans.tv at 3.30 Mountain Time right here. Hey, he done away. Kiss our butts. Oh, wow. Yeah. That was quick about it, too.
Starting point is 00:55:49 He's out of here. Speaking about it here, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Stephen Schleiker will be joining us. We'll hit some of the. the big notes of the D-23 reveals and announcements. You know it's big when Kevin Figi, Feige, whatever his name is,
Starting point is 00:56:04 shows up with a hat. And if he's got a hat on, yeah, shit's going to be back to go down. He could have been wearing two hats and it would have made sense. Yeah, no kidding. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So that'll all happen shortly. Before that, though, a musical break from Brian Ibitt here. Yeah, let's go to Berlin to a band by the name of Kerala Dust. These guys actually were formed in London in 2016 but they grew up in berlin on the sounds of can the velvet underground tom waits um i absolutely
Starting point is 00:56:33 hear some craft work in this this is some great kind of a 80s electronica um this is uh the debut track on their new label played again sam um they describe it as uh the song is about a couple in a tempestuous kind of love affair driving on an old german motorway somewhere in the outskirts of berlin where we live. During the pandemic, we would just get in a car and drive around the Old East and find all these ruined buildings and walk through them. It's this mix of nostalgia for the past, coupled with a melancholy for the lengths that we would go to to feel anything at all. I just think it's a damn good song. Here's the song Pulse 6 by Corolla Dust. I used to hell.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I'd like to how I'd like to how I'd like to how to the sound I used to want somebody to love I used to want somebody to love. We used to shaking the dark and cut the flame. I used to shift my shape to feel something.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I used to help. I'd like to separate us from then Like I could end where you begin We would cut it in half and break it again I used to shift my shape to feel something I'd like to help I'd like to help to the ways of your arms
Starting point is 00:59:50 like you could cover in the state of the lungs I made you know I made a turn off the light and cut the flames I used to shift my shape to feel some things I'd like to hell. Is any of those making sense to you?
Starting point is 01:00:32 I'd love to leave in winter. I used to carry in the ways of the drum. I'd love to leave in winter. The clock keeps ticking and the car won't come. I'd love to leave in winter. I used to carry in the ways I'd like to help I'd love to lean in winter
Starting point is 01:00:58 The clock keeps ticking and the calm Won't come I used to help I used to help I'd like to leave the winter, I'd love to leave in winter, I used to carry no way to the drum. I'd love to leave in winter, the clock keeps sticking the car when we're coming. I'd love to leave in winter. I used to how.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I'd love to leave in winter. I'd love to leave in winter. We'd like to how. We have a nice looking portable computer here made by Dulch and it's got a 386 processor, four slots. It's got a 120 megabyte hard drive, 16 megza-ram. But what makes this Dulch portable special is, da-dam. Color VGA display. Look at those colors.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Over 24,000 colors, 640 by 480 resolution. You don't see that on any portable computers. Nothing like shedding your bike shorts twice at camp. Nothing like it. The Morning Stream. Get your ass to Mars. So fun note about that girl, she started doing requests. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And that was one of them. And she doesn't seem to have any rules about what she'll say. No. And there are two or three of them that got deleted by TikTok killed them because something nasty. So I never heard them. Shitting your bike charts. Nothing like it. And usually it's like some fake name like Mike Hunt and things like that.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Sure. But not in this case. Anyway, hey, Brian, remind me who that was so I can find that. You know, I'll tell you, that's the band Karala Dust, K-E-R-A-L-A, Dust. You can spell Dust. The brand new single is called Pulse 6. That's a V-I instead of the number 6. With all that stuff, you'll be able to find it yourself.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Nice. Go check it out. Yeah. Sorry, breaking news. This is interesting. What's that? Blue Origin Rocket. That's the Bezos Rockets, right?
Starting point is 01:04:14 Sure. Yep, the Bezos penis. It still does. Big old freaking tip on that thing. malfunctioning trigger shoot oh no triggering a dramatic but successful abort for an unpilited space
Starting point is 01:04:26 oh it was unpilited so yeah whew true we don't want because I was starting to make jokes and uh yeah what if what if this guy was on there oh jesus he would have seen some stuff had he been up on that that flight you know why why they had to abort that mission they did not use enough
Starting point is 01:04:43 boner X in there in their launch fuel bonner X Boner X. Nothing like a good boner X. Oh, my lord. All right. Stephen Schleiker, being very patient today.
Starting point is 01:04:56 We're going to add him in here and have some fun with our old pal, Stephen. We're going to play his little theme here. Stephen Schlecker. Stephen Schleiker. Hey, look who it is. It's our old pal, Stephen Schleiker with his finger on the pulse of popular culture, comics, TV, movies, and more. And he does that all at major spoilers.com.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Stephen, welcome back to the show. Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian. Hello. Hey, man. So, uh, Ryan, you had a, you had a time. It was a whirlwind. I did have a time.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I had a good time. Uh, very, uh, like running left, you know, running here and there, left and right, up and down, all over the place. And I'm just glad to be done running. Was it, uh, did we didn't ask, right? I didn't ask, Tristan go with you? Was that the deal? No, it was just me and Tina. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Oh, I didn't know Tina went. Cool. Yeah, Tina went. She dressed up, uh, she did like a very subtle mini mouse, uh, outfit. I'll have to post a link to, uh, to where people can see it. She just looked adorable. Nice. I want to see this. Not in a creepy way, Tina, I promise.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Stephen, it's good to have you here. There's probably stuff went down that you went, ooh, cool, or, ew, gross, or something. I don't know. What was your big takeaway from the event as far as announcements and stuff? Here's the thing. I didn't pay attention to a single thing. Well, there's good news for major spoilers fans. We don't know what happened. No, my son, his high school soccer team, had a tournament.
Starting point is 01:06:17 to go to. They won, by the way. And so I was busy with that and some other things that I can tell you another time, but not right now. Oh, not on the air, I see. Wow. Well, I mean, your opening a bit that you played at the top of the hour pretty much summed up my weekend. Oh, which one, this one?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Hello, it's me again. No, no. You were that guy? Oh, man. I'm sorry. Oh, geez. I feel bad, but not this one. By the way, send me that because I want to send it to my wife. I totally can do that, yeah. I'll drag it out right now. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Well, I'm glad you're, you know, well enough here and doing okay. That's the important thing. We're going to talk about some of these things that happened at the D-theory event. And I don't know, Brian, did you, like of all the announcements, did anything surprise you? Some of this we knew was coming. The only, yeah, the only thing that surprised me when I was talking with Ashley and Jason, the night before the Marvel panel, we kind of had a list of like, all right, well, we're probably going to get an announcement. casting announcement for the Fantastic Four movie. We're probably going to get
Starting point is 01:07:21 this. We'll probably get a trailer for this other thing. The two surprises for me, the only two surprises for me, were Thunderbolts. I wasn't expecting Thunderbolts to get announced. For the world who doesn't know, this is like Suicide Squad sort of
Starting point is 01:07:39 Marvel version. Kind of like Suicide Squad. Yeah. The Thunderbolts comic was more like um super villains that you didn't know who were posing as these new superheroes and um so it's like you know the the beetle uh old spider man villain the beetle was this one character and and um you know all these different superheroes these guys it's a lot closer to the suicide squad right it's um Yelina Bolova
Starting point is 01:08:09 Black Widow Blonde Blonde Black Widow Red Guardian Taskmaster all three of those characters from the Black Widow movie Sebastian Stainan Yeah right winter soldier
Starting point is 01:08:22 Echo no not Echo Ghost from a movie that Scott still hasn't watched called Ant Man and the Wasp Oh I almost watched that this week day Wyatt Russell and Louise Dreyfus Oh yeah Wyatt Russell What's he doing then he's the new Captain America
Starting point is 01:08:36 was that same character? The U.S. agent, yeah. Oh, okay. So, and what ought to be really interesting is the fact that in Captain America and Winter Soldier, the TV show, or Falcon Winter Soldier, they were adversaries, winter soldier and U.S. agent by the end of that thing. So having them on the same team should be a really interesting dynamic. It would be an uncomfortable alliance while they have to do. It should. But it's an interesting, like the characters they decided to pick for this were kind of a surprise.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Well, I mean, they kind of were setting a lot of that up, though, in some of the other shows and movies that we've seen. So I don't think this lineup isn't a complete surprise as to what they're going because every single one of these characters has either a chip on their shoulder or has been burned by somebody. and so this is they see as their quote unquote redemption arc and then hopefully by the end of it they're going to realize oh no we are the we're the bad guys we're the baddies and um and hopefully turn some things around i thought taskmaster got i mean no spoiler i guess i can't help but spoil this i thought the task master died in uh no she she walked away at the end um did she don't remember that at all yeah uh black widow uh quote unquote saved her and um and she she got away you know what's exciting is uh the the rise of florence pew as a star in hollywood is clear to me on this uh poster image because they got her right out front man look at her yeah i mean she's kind of like the uh the harley quinn of this you know if there is a suicide squad parallel not in character but in in prominence she's kind of the harley harley which is just fine she stole that movie so more david harbour and
Starting point is 01:10:26 Florence Pugh in everything. I agree. Well, this is cool. So this is when next year? When is this? 2024, sorry. That's a ways off. The other surprise for me was Werewolf by Night, a Halloween special
Starting point is 01:10:42 Wheel Wolf by Night. All Black and White looks like a creepy 60s or 50s horror. B movie. But you get, we get our first Elsa Bloodstone, which will be really cool. But as my uncle, who is a huge Werewolf by Night fan from the comics points out, this doesn't look like it's got anything to do with any Werewolf by Night comic ever, except for Elsa Bloodstone. I mean, it's a Halloween special, so you know they're having fun with it.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And the fact that the way that they've set it up is just like, okay, we're just going to, we're going to make this as silly as we can and have some fun for the holiday season. This is this year, right, in October. It streams in less than a month. Weird, okay. There's a lot of stuff coming out, well, you know, various things, not just necessarily Marvel, but things that are coming up like the 21st, the 26th, the like boom, boom, boom, right after one right after another on Disney Plus. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So September, October, going to be busy for Disney fans. So they showed the, this trailer, the one trailer I did see or one of the trailers I saw was the Secret Invasion trailer. And for whatever reason in my head, I had that as a film, but that's a series. series. Okay. And are we we reasonably excited about that? Seems like it'd be cool. I think so. I think it'll be interesting because I mean, I think that's going to set up a lot of what's going on for phase five and phase six, at least for the big story arc because we saw in spoiler alert for people who haven't seen it. We saw Bruce going off into space and a spaceship in Shee Hulk. We've seen Fury already on a spaceship previously and some other things that are going on with possibly the Cree Scroll War. So I think that this could be. be very interesting to see how this plays out. And I just like the super subversive, you know, not quite three days of the Condor, but don't trust anybody kind of horror that goes on in this story. And so I'm very excited about that. Also, it'll be nice to have a Marvel series that
Starting point is 01:12:43 looks like it, it's not going to be a joke a minute. You know, like I'm not complaining about Miss Marvel or She Hulk or the ones we've gotten recently. but this one looks like it's going to have a much darker tone, which it needs, so I'm excited about that. Did you have any ability while there to look and see what that Marvel AR game from the Pokemon Go people is supposed to be about? No, there was no other announcement except for the fact that they're working on that. It is not what I thought the million dollar idea was,
Starting point is 01:13:16 which is, you know, you're a reporter for the Daily Bugle and you're using AR to take pictures of Spider-Man and other various heroes to quote unquote catch them like Pokemon. Yeah. That's what I wanted to. And you said that that day. It was like, oh, yeah, no brainer. That's what they're making, of course.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And that's not this, I guess. It doesn't look like that. It's, um, it looks like it's going to be, you're still catching superheroes or super villains, but you're going to have powers. So instead of pokey balls, you're probably going to have, uh, fire, the ability to shoot fire or the ability to shoot water or laser rays or something like that. Who knows? Man.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Again, spoiler alert for the most recent episode of She-Hulk, they should have just turned that into a sling ring thing and just done the whole thing, the whole longest capturing demons and throwing them into other dimensions. That would be great too, yeah. And with just during Madison, it's not where you think. It's like a high in two ends, but not where you think. Interesting. So one of the things I got excited about on the Marvel front was that Amy Henig, famous for her work
Starting point is 01:14:23 on the Uncharted series and her work with Naughty Dog in general. She's considered one of the best writers and game designers in gaming history. Anyway, she's working on a Black Panther Captain America team up game. Yeah, World War 2 era with,
Starting point is 01:14:39 so it's not Tachala. It's the, it's Tachala's great-grandfather or grandfather. And I can't tell who this other soldier in the thing is. Is it supposed to be Bucky? I don't know who that's supposed to be. No, no, there, the two other characters are not um they're new they're new yeah introduced for the game but i'm down with that
Starting point is 01:15:01 man what a great what a great looking um and fun era to to kind of oh heck yeah dude and she is she is renown for her work like there's nothing there's nothing about this to not be excited about it's a ways off we're not gonna i don't even think they gave us a year for this but they're working on it um very excited about that i i uh i have i I was really interested that they showed some footage from the Marvel's upcoming movie because basically they explained by kind of re-showing it. Again, spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen Ms. Marvel, the whole in credit sequence at the end of that series, they basically said, well, here's what's going on. She didn't turn into Ms. Marvel. You know, they're doing some other stuff and that will be kind of the cornerstone of that movie with Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, and Monica Rambo all teaming up for that.
Starting point is 01:15:53 for that movie. So that'll be good. The one thing that I was surprised that we didn't get anything about was Fantastic Four. That was the one thing we danced around. Now, we do know that, um, uh, the guy who did, um, uh, Wondavision or Wanda Vision, Matt Shackman is going to be directing Fantastic Four, but they didn't give us anything on who's the actors or anything like that. So that was the big surprise. Sorry, what was Shackman known for? What was the Wondavision? Wandavision. Yeah. Interesting. The, uh, apparently, uh, apparently. outside the panel. So when you went into the doors and to Hall H, there were signs all over saying, we will not be making Fantastic Four announcements. Just to chill everybody out. Yeah, I could see that.
Starting point is 01:16:38 They did no X-Men announcements other than I know there's the That was another one that they didn't talk about too. And again, that may be too far down the road. I mean, there's still a whole block of stuff that they announced at, or didn't announce at San Diego Comic-Con that they're like, here's all these things that are coming. We're not going to announce what they are. We just have
Starting point is 01:16:56 these things slotted for the future. And everybody thought that, oh, they're going to talk about that at D23. And they didn't mention any of them at D23, which to me makes me wonder, and maybe you guys can weigh in on this too. We're still seeing a lot of slowdown from pandemic as far as movies getting into theaters and release dates and having to push things back for reshoots and whatnot. I'm wondering if we're not seeing them not making announcements because they don't want to pull what Warner Brothers has head pulled by pushing two of their movies back by almost a whole other year or canceling one outright sure yeah so if they're just quiet about it then they don't have to they don't have to worry about it yeah that's interesting i i think you're right i think that and so a lot of people
Starting point is 01:17:35 there's a lot of chatter even in our chat room today but i saw this online a lot people like it's kind of a disappointing d23 you know they didn't do this they didn't do that and in my mind is it their first live one oh i didn't know that they didn't know this is the first uh the first one back since the pandemic or I'm sorry pandemic that's still going on since the height of the pandemic yeah but I would I would remind people like it may feel a little less
Starting point is 01:18:01 like you're like oh it wasn't what I wanted because I didn't get you know fantastic foreign news or whatever it's still insane how much stuff's going on for sure look we also got you know we got the cast of Wakanda forever we got to get another look at at Namor
Starting point is 01:18:15 which is really cool Disney's plane I I know not person. They were making a huge deal on that on social media. I was just like, why? It's a... I know. It's just a plane. I mean, it's cool, but it's like, oh, can I go smell the seat? Yeah, smell that seat. What is the point of that?
Starting point is 01:18:32 The whole thing. No, I'm bummed. I'm bummed I didn't go to the archives because apparently they had the computer from Lost, which is like, oh, I wish I could see that. But, no, but we also got Captain America New World Order. We know that Anthony
Starting point is 01:18:47 Mackey, it's going to be Tim Blake Nelson, who was the leader. that we saw in shadow getting his his giant noggin well he was in so so wait that's the character from the 08 Hulk then the 08 Hulk yes weird okay cool I loved him back Nelson so he had me at that but that's interesting yeah at least it wasn't it wasn't from the Eric Banna Hulk at least right right right right right if we don't get the leader making some comment about wow you look you look different than last time I saw you. They did
Starting point is 01:19:23 they did talk Daredevil a little bit with Charlie Cox and Vincent DeBronryo returning. Born again. Yeah. Yeah, based on the Frank Miller run. They did say that this was not going to be they said it's not connected to the Netflix series, but I don't know how you can say that. Maybe we'll find out because spoiler alert for Shee Hulk
Starting point is 01:19:41 Daredevil coming up in a future episode. Yeah, that was in the trailer folks. Not a not a big spoiler. Yeah. You just see the side of his head and his head rotating and his horns and you're like, oh shit, it's Charlie Cox, let's do this. I love those guys. I'm making people mad in the trash.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I know, you're really freaking people. Like, people whose fingers hovering over the mute button, basically is what they're. Yeah, none of these have been spoilers. By the way, I was just looking up this Matt, not fraction, Jackman guy, who's directing the Fantastic Four film. This guy's got some cred, but it's almost entirely television. He, the Wandivision, of course, but a bunch of Game of Thrones episodes, a bunch of The Great, remember that?
Starting point is 01:20:17 That's an awesome show, the great. uh always sunny philadelphia he did um american gothic the good wife uh revenge psych like the guy's been working forever house and that tells you a lot of things though right so he's done comedy right he's got some comedy in there yeah so you know that there's going to be maybe a lighter tone for fantastic four and if he's done game of thrones he knows how to do big epic storytelling yeah so that should be you know that should i mean i'm not saying it's going to be guardians of the galaxy or anything like that but to me it starts to trigger oh this is kind of a big guardians of the galaxy kind of thing going on yeah he started out as a kid actor by the way it was in the facts of life was his first
Starting point is 01:20:57 job it ended up in highway to heaven different strokes night court growing pains i mean he's basically a gen x kid who grew up as a child actor and then in 1990 he said i want to direct and now he's just doing kick-ass shit i think that's great so leon howard of our time everybody that's who's directed fantastic for anything else jump out i know they uh we got a new firmer release date for that new marvel uh excomish game uh there's the tron identity game coming night suns yeah that tron identity so this is interesting that that's mike bithel who's famous for a game called thomas was alone it's an amazing little indie title years and years ago now um but if you've never played thomas was alone it was basically a bunch of
Starting point is 01:21:45 Literally, like squares, rectangles, and balls. There was nothing fancy about the graphics in that game. They were meant to be these very simple, almost Atari 2,600-looking objects. And Thomas is a rectangle. And Thomas has to work with these other shapes to figure out how to traverse their world. And it sounds dumb, but I am telling you it had one of the greatest narratives of video games of all time. One of the greatest narratives in any game ever made. And to hear that he's doing a visual novel style treatment of Tron is so exciting to me.
Starting point is 01:22:21 I can barely contain myself. Cannot wait for Tron identity. It looks awesome. They showed off some echo footage. They talked Loki season two with Owen Wilson and Tom Hittleston was there. I think the other thing for me that I was excited about because I thought Brian was going to talk all the Marvel stuff at the top of the hour. Indiana Jones 5. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:22:41 With Phoebe Waller Bridge. Oh, so excited about that. Here's the thing that from everything that I've read, he did not come out on stage, but behind the stage. And you can see the Twitter feed on this. Kay Kwe Kwan, who played short round, was backstage and he and Harrison Ford had a picture together. And Harrison Ford was just like smiling like, you know, it's the greatest thing that he's ever seen. You got to see this, Brian. They're not saying he's in the movie, but they're also, why would he be there behind the scenes if he wasn't doing anything else at D23?
Starting point is 01:23:12 right yeah that's odd for sure ford did confirm he goes this is the last indiana jones movie for me he's 80 years old which is incredible that uh you know with all the the stun acting that he has done uh that he's still up and ready to uh who knows what he's going to do in this movie climb into another refrigerator and and get i hope not i hope not so the director the director here is a dude what made um mangold um the movie logan right there you go uh among other great movies and he's i don't know i got a lot of faith in this guy i feel like this is maybe a little bit of redemption in fact harrison ford said oh where's the quote i think he said something like this is one of the great ones or something yeah he said this is
Starting point is 01:23:56 one of the great ones and i think he was referring to co-star uh in that oh maybe i thought he was i was hoping he was talking about the movie maybe well i hope that he's talking about that the director and all that stuff i mean if you got the director of logan in this doing this then And, you know, that'll tell you, again, I think they, they, when you know a director and you know what their capabilities are, you know what area they like to work with, that kind of gives you an indication of what direction that they want to shape a story. So if Logan was all about the end of the X-Men and what it is to be old and what it is to look back on your life and the mistakes that you made in your life, and if you have short round who's showing up backstage, it would not surprise me if this is a Indiana Jones coming to grips. with the fact that he is actually stealing relics instead of keeping them where they belong. In a museum, dad, exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:47 They belong in a museum. Get off my plane. I'm excited. I'm excited. I realize there's a lot to forgive when it comes to Crystal Skull. It's amazing to me that before, during, during, and after Crystal Skull, Spielberg has made some of his greatest films.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Like the guy has been nonstop quality, but that one moment, he made a turd. And I don't know if I should blame him or if I should blame. I don't know if I should blame him or Lucas. I don't know. But all I'm saying is this, given it to an director is very capable. Mangold makes great movies. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Yeah. There's a real chance for something awesome here and a way to close it out in a really meaningful way. So I have hope. I have hope. You know, it's been what? 10, 15 years since Crystal Skull came out. I have not watched it since it hit theater. Maybe time and distance make it a better movie.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Maybe. I doubt it, though. It's so bad. I doubt it. But you might be right. No. You might be right. If we watch it for film sack,
Starting point is 01:25:45 it's still bad. Yeah. Oh yeah, we did do that, didn't we? I blocked that out of my mind. It's bad. It's still bad.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah, don't watch it. Everybody's really bad. But five, look, fingers crossed. Let's see how we do. And the fact that he was backstage
Starting point is 01:25:56 makes me hopeful that maybe he even makes an appearance because that guy's having a moment right now. So let's do it. All right. I think that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Cover everything? I think so. Not everything. I mean, That's a huge event. I don't know if you guys saw the short clip from Little Mermaid Live Action Adaptation. I did, yeah. I kind of got a little shivers going on that.
Starting point is 01:26:15 It looks fine. It looks fine. I mean, whatever. These live action remakes are weird to me, but I understand that people, they make money. And, you know, I like the Lion King one. A lot of people hated it, but I liked it. Yeah, they've got Mufasa is coming as well. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Yeah, another whole other thing. So I'm actually just kind of okay with those things. I can take them or leave them. A lot of people feel but heard about their childhood being poked like this, but I don't care. I don't know. I mean, it's a second generation. I think the only weird thing about having, you know, especially the trifecta of Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin, all being done as live action is that those three movies for Disney heads, that was the rebirth of Disney when the Little Mermaid was release. Because before that, it was, hey, we think we're going to sell the parks off to whoever wants to buy the parks.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Hey, we want to sell the animation department off to whoever. wants to buy the animation. But, you know, through Roy Disney and through Eisner, they came in and they rebuilt that and they said, well, we're going to start doing animated movies again and the traditional Disney style. And those three, boom, boom, boom, every year you could count on stuff and then Lion King and everything after that. But it was, it was a way that the studio was turning itself around by leaning into what made
Starting point is 01:27:33 them great to begin with. and now I don't know when I see the live action adaptations I love the girl who's playing Ariel and her voice is so great but I look at these and I'm like well this almost seems like you're trying to lean into what made you great once more by not leaning into what made you great to begin with yeah yeah and that's that's that's a problematic but that's kind of true across all of these right the Moulon thing the you know anytime they do like a live action remake of something that's considered a beloved classic that you know really put them on the map for whatever arrow is in you're you're walking on glass a little bit but i i think the blowback
Starting point is 01:28:10 is actually kind of nothing because there are people who really want to see this and you know what that's great go for it whatever i may not be that i'm in no rush to watch a little mermaid reboot but um no i don't have i'm not offended by its existence it's funny no neither am i mean if people want to watch it that's great because there's going to be people they're going to be attracted to those things and it's going to be the greatest thing in the world for them because for heck scott even your kids the little mermaid is that was before i was born so you know uh for my kids it's like why would i want to watch an ancient animated movie yeah they don't yeah they're not into it they love my kids loved it when they were little but i you know the things that they really glom on to is
Starting point is 01:28:51 the stuff that they were you know as they were growing up what mattered to them were the things that were coming out then just like just like it did for us like why do we why do we care about back to the the future so much because we were all like 1516 and it was awesome exactly you know like we have these things we glom on to and i don't know i don't so so i do have questions about who is this actually for like is this for a new generation of kids yes is it for the kids that were born in 84 children of the kids who loved the little mermaid i don't i don't think it is it's them to watch together i guess so i don't think it's for us yeah but whoever it's for good on you good job they're throwing some goodness i mean that's i mean the same argument you can play that exactly
Starting point is 01:29:32 same argument to the prequels and the most recent Star Wars trilogy. You know, it's, it's for its generation. Yeah. I mean, will she be so dumb that she doesn't know the word feet? Yeah. What did they call it? What was, what's the fork? The, uh, the, uh, bomb flats or whatever was, Snarf Blatt.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Snarf Blat. Yeah. She was real, she did seem a little dumb. See, he's not going to be there. So, yeah, can't, you can't watch a live action if Buddy Hackett's not in it. I also worry there's a generation of really. creepy old men that used to like that movie because there was a time where her little her boobies are just covered by shells and her you know what I mean like some of that across my mind there's a little
Starting point is 01:30:12 bit of that out there I'm just saying we live in a weird modern internet I think there's a few creepers that are you know why it's coming to my mind I don't know so maybe don't worry about me I guess but you know I'm just saying it's a little bit weird anyway uh well there you have it uh Stephen it's always Stephen Stephen it's always uh good to have you on and tomorrow night get to be on the major spoilers podcast. Do you want to do any kind of preview for what's going? This week, we're going to talk Kaiju Max. So what happens when the giant Kaiju all get rounded up and thrown onto a prison island? It's an interesting, it's an interesting book. So we're going to be talking about that. I want to get Scott's take on on that.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Think Oz meets Godzilla King of All Monsters. Oh my gosh, Oz like the prison show Oz? Yes, yes. Oh, wow. Yes. Sign me up to whatever weirdness this is. I'm in. Go grab that review copy now, Scott, and start reading. Awesome. It goes places. Yeah, I'm going to, this is my outdoor. We're having amazing temperatures right now. It's like 70 max today with like beautiful skies and I'm going to
Starting point is 01:31:13 sit under those guys and read this comic on my iPad and I'm so excited. Well, excellent news. That's tomorrow. And of course, all week, all the time. Check out major spoilers.com for the latest and greatest Stephen. It's a great having you on man. We'll talk to you soon. Stay hydrated. Bye now. You always got to let him have a
Starting point is 01:31:32 with the hydration, you know? Can't let that go. No. Let me stay hydrated right now. Yeah, do it. With my Avengers water bottle. Oh, very nice. Is it a good build?
Starting point is 01:31:44 Do you feel like that's going to last? I always worry with these things. No. No. I mean, it's a... I'll just say it right now. This is not one that I feel like I could put in a suitcase or put in a bag with water in it because it'll definitely drip.
Starting point is 01:31:59 But sitting on my... desk lighting up uh it looks cool yeah got no complaints about that yeah that that looks rad yeah i like it i would put that on my desk and look at that and stare at it and drink out of it be fine absolutely without a doubt without a doubt quick email from a listener this is from scooby dad oh oh send and receive email here's my email he says dear stetson and bowler all these are hat references. Hats, okay. I like that, especially because Brian is known to wear a Stetson, or excuse me.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I am, but not while I have headphones on, sadly. You ever wear a bowler? You ever have one of those? I don't have a bowler, but I'd be tempted to throw it, like, uh, odd job. Yeah. So if I, if I, uh, get a bowler, then it better have a blade as the brim. Yeah, better have Wesley Snipes all around the front. That's what I want.
Starting point is 01:32:50 All right. I really enjoy Brian's lift stories, he says, having done that for a summer before COVID. uh if i recall there was a setting on the app that if you get a ride like to the airport you can set up or sorry it can set you up with riders that are going uh that are going on i'm sure what that means there shouldn't be a period there going on the direction of home on the direction of home i hope that makes sense thanks for the distraction of fun stub the toe joe scooby dad so is that setting there can yeah there is a setting it's called destination mode and basically it it reduces the number of potential rides you can get by only saying you only give me rides that get me towards home north and west or whatever right so frequently if i'm if i'm driving i'll end up in the very far southeast part of denver almost happens almost every time like the longer i drive it's like there's a it's like that leg of the table of colorado is shorter than the other three legs and everything kind of eventually rolls down to that corner.
Starting point is 01:33:55 That makes sense. You got a wobbly table. That's what happens. The wobbly table. But it, so when I'm ready to finish lifting, I just basically put on destination mode towards home and start driving towards home. And I might get two or three rides along the way. I might not.
Starting point is 01:34:13 It's a crapshoot. Okay. So you never know. Let me ask you this because it came up Thursday. I think you probably heard it if you heard the show. This idea of loaner vehicles came up. I heard the first part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:23 I listened to the show until we had to go to the airport, or walk into the airport. Oh, gotcha. I did not hear about loaner vehicles, but they do rent. If you want to drive Lyft and you don't have a car or you don't want to use or can't use your own car, then they will rent you, I think Kia Nero is the current model. They will rent you a Kia Nero and take your rental payment out of what you make. So you kind of have to drive even more to make up for the car. car they're renting. Is it a percentage of each of each day's cut or whatever?
Starting point is 01:34:57 Right. Or it's a flat fee per month that once you, once you've covered that flat fee, then everything else you make that month is your pay. All right. So it's a rental. So, Chap, if you were all there Thursday, that is kind of what we landed on. We were trying to figure out the Kia thing in, or not Kia. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Oh, Seattle was full of Priuses. Toyota Priuses. Yeah. And we think there's some thinking that that's just the, That happens to be the car up there that is the du jour for what you're renting. So interesting. Okay. Well, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I didn't realize that. So if you're somebody who's never had a car or don't have a car, but you really want to be a lift driver, they have a plan. That's interesting. Yeah. But if you've never had a car, then they probably won't do it because you probably don't know how to drive. Well, that's true. You'd need some sort of driver's license, I suppose. You need a little experience.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah. Even if you have a driver's license, maybe you'd want to drive a little bit more before you make your first car on Lyft. I don't know how the guy are. Seattle guy going back to the airport. I don't know how he had one. That dude did not know how to drive well. He was horrible. Horrible. He was the one that was like
Starting point is 01:36:01 just like lurching up going back, lurching up and cutting over without using his lights and all that stuff. He was not a, not well trained. That's it for the show, everybody. I would like to thank some patrons who just joined this show as a patron. Patreon.com slash TMS.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Brought in the following people in the last few days. Stirk. Check that name out, Brian. Johan. Stirk. It's like another Iron Man villain. Johan Stirk.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Or what Stan Lee would deliver a package to. It's perfect. Or it's the non-union equivalent of Tony Stark. We've got to use Johan Stirk. Carver Tate and Mindy Allen. Isn't Mindy Allen a famous name?
Starting point is 01:36:47 I mean, they'd probably share it, but isn't there a famous Mindy Allen or am I thinking of something else? Mindy Allen. It sounds like one, right? Yeah, like a famous singer or like an actor. This one's got Mindy Allen. I'll watch that.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Debbie Allen. What else? Yeah, Mindy Allen. It's bugging me. If you don't think of Mindy Cone. Yeah. Or Mindy or no, who's the Allen that sings her brother, Lily Allen? Lily Allen.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Yeah. Maybe that's who I'm thinking of. Mindy, Lily. Lily. Maybe, yeah. It's a good name, though. Like, it's a name that sounds like you've heard it before. So good for you.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Mindy. Yeah, good job, Mindy. And we're glad to have you here as part of our Patreon. If you guys have not checked it out, yeah, go check it out. Patreon.com slash TMS is the place to go and do. Okay. I have a question about Mindy's. Do it. Is Mindy short for something? Oh. Because, you know, like Bobby is Robert and Jimmy is James and stuff like that is, you know, Kathy's or Catharines, usually. What is Mindy short for? Short. Let's find out. Mindiana. We named the dog. Mindiana. Okay, here it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:56 English origin short term of Melinda. There you go. Melinda. Okay. So Mindy is short for Melinda. Did not know that. There we go. Learn something new every day. Melinda. Variants are Minda, Mindy spelled different ways, and Mindy spelled the third way. Also, some people go by Lindy for some reason. And why, but it's not where you think. Wouldn't that be Linda? Oh, and the name is way down in popularity.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I wonder if you met Belinda Carlisle. I know it's a B. But could you call her Bindy? Or Bindy? I like Balindy. Bindy, Carlyle. My name is Belindi. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:34 There you go. Thank you for that, everybody. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all other things you might be in need of. That will do it for today's show. But in order to call it a show, we've got to play a song on our way out. And I think Brian is prepared to do that. So Brian give it to us. Two of our favorite people are celebrating a wedding anniversary.
Starting point is 01:38:52 or celebrate it yesterday. Sir's Joust and Tempest. Aw, that's a good choice there. September 11th was our 40th wedding anniversary. It doesn't seem like it's been that long, but it's been one heck of a ride. Lots of twists and turns in that time, but we've made it this far.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Thank you, Robin. This is Jim Jensen and Robin. For sharing your life's journey with me. I wouldn't have it any other way. Brian, could you play one of the following covers? And he gave me three choices. And listen, this is a little slower soul song, cover. So it's a little bit different than what we normally play. But
Starting point is 01:39:26 Scott and I would both do anything for Jim and Robin Jensen. We love them. They're amazing. Absolutely. They tell me to play four minutes of dead air. I play four minutes of dead air and call it. What was that? What's the shoot? Well, the title of the song is the amount of time. Oh, is that real? I didn't know anyone did that. That's crazy. Yeah, there's a, there's a class, I mean, it's a piece of music called, what, three minutes, 14 seconds or something, and it's basically three minutes of, yeah, Philip Glass, three minutes and 14 seconds of silence. Nice. I know I'm getting the time wrong, because that's pie.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Anyway, Jim wanted to hear either cover of breads make it with you, or heat waves always and forever, or Bobby Goshes a little bit more. We're going with the middle one, heat waves, always and forever, covered by Stan Taylor and Raquel Rodriguez. is I picked up this whole EP, which is called Sunday's Best, because they do a cover of Ooh, Baby, Baby by Frankie, or, no, Smokey Robinson, The Miracles. La, la, la, la, means I love you, natural high, be thankful for what you got, some great soul stuff. So it's really, really cool. Anyway, Stan Taylor and Raquel Rodriguez, and their cover of Always and Forever. All right, that'll do it for us.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Thank you all for being here. We'll be back tomorrow with another. DMS Always in forever Each moment with you It's just like a dream to me That somehow came true And I know tomorrow will still be the same,
Starting point is 01:41:28 because we've got a life of love that won't ever change. Every day, love me all special way. Melt all my heart away with a smile. Take time to tell me you really care, and we'll share tomorrow together. I'll always love you forever. Always forever. Forever.
Starting point is 01:42:26 There'll always be sunshine when I look at you. It's something I can't explain Just the things that you do If you get lonely, call me and take the second to give to me the magic you've made
Starting point is 01:43:06 and every day love me your own special way away melt all my heart away with the sky take time to tell me you really care and we'll share tomorrow I'll always love you ever forever forever loving you
Starting point is 01:44:01 always more love you You are you Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh Yeah
Starting point is 01:44:23 Oh Yeah Oh Yeah I Yeah Yeah I
Starting point is 01:44:39 I'm She said forever love you Love you Forever Ever Always forever Love you You
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