The Morning Stream - TMS 2345: Sweet Pickle Peanuts
Episode Date: September 12, 2022I Bless the rain down in Aaaanaheimmmm. No Batmans allowed. Gary of the Planet Lantronix. International House of Garbage Pancakes. I spent most of the time looking at my crotch. Ram That Pill! I'm gla...d no one brought a black light. Peanut Asparagus Substitutiary Locomotion. Got the Diarheear this mornin. All the Hot Sauces. All the hot sauces. Me, Lawrence Fishbourne, and 98 Randos. Oogie Boogey Shaming. Going Long With Boner-X and Dan. Rolling a D23 with Steven and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS, I bless the rain down in Anaheim.
No Batman's allowed.
Gary of the Planet Landtronics.
International House of Garbage Pancakes.
I spent most of the time looking at my crotch.
Rame that pill.
I'm glad no one brought a black light.
Peanut asparagus substitutiary look of motion.
Got the diarrhea this morning.
All the hot sauces, all the hot sauces.
Me, Lawrence Fishburn, and 98 randos.
Oogie, boogie shaming.
Going long.
with Boner X and Dan.
Rolling a D-23 with Stephen and more
on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Hello, it's me again.
I'm in the bathroom sitting on the park right now.
I got diarrhea this morning.
I deem me a woman to help me out.
So bad, it's unreal.
Goodbye.
Products, products, products, products, products, products, products, products, products.
This is the morning stream.
It's just what the doctor ordered.
Good morning, everybody, everybody, everybody.
Let me pronounce that.
It's Monday, September 12th, 2022.
It's the morning stream.
TMS.
I'm Scott.
He's Brian.
Hi, Brian.
Welcome back from California.
oh thank you it's so good to be back yeah yeah yeah yeah it never rains in southern
california i heard but then it did well you were there what did you do what did you do you
lies oh man i heard this from tom first he says oh it's raining outside this never happens
yeah it was it was raining hard too like we walked uh we had dinner with ashley and jason
and Jason Inman of Jupiter Jet
and Red Shirt Diaries fame
and it was sprinkling when we got
there and we're like, you know, it might
be fine. We don't need to
take a lift back. Sure enough, we get
outside, it's kind of, you know,
kind of light. And we only
had maybe about a quarter
mile, half mile walk to our
hotel. By the time we got there,
we were soaked. It had like
started coming down heavier and heavier
along the way. But,
And I assume that means some good general humidity for the rest of the time because...
For sure.
It was already muggy.
And after the two days of rain, two evenings of rain, it was like, oh, this is just, yeah, this is just...
Because that rain's got to go somewhere, man.
It can't just sit there.
It's got to evaporate and soak into your soul.
Hang in the air.
Although, you know, still, it was a lovely time.
We got to see Gary of the Planet Landronics, Batuan of the month for the month of
August, by the way.
Very nice. Yes.
Well done. He is beloved there
in Batu, in the off-world
Black Spire Outpost.
He's kind of alien.
I like it fits well, I've always thought. I always felt
like Gary had an alien quality
to him, you know?
Just a little bit.
Kind of, yeah. I think it's like the perfect role.
The perfect scoundrel role for him.
Why not? Walking around,
teaching people how to play Sabak
and guiding people.
in the ways of the forest, that sort of thing.
I got to see Randy Jordan.
We had breakfast in a diner where the woman who served us easily could have had a cigarette
dangling from her mouth if, you know, if that were allowed in restaurants in California,
but nope.
Nice.
Was this like roadside?
Tell me more.
I love these kind of places.
Oh, it was the original pancake house.
And judging by the look of it, it looked like it could have been the original original pancake house.
Yeah.
Um, it was, uh, uh, although Randy says he thinks the first one might have been in Seattle, but, um, it, you know, it, it was a, it was a good little diner. I think there are, there are a couple here in Colorado. There are a couple in other parts of the country now, but it started out, um, on the west coast. Uh, decent pancakes. Maybe, maybe, uh, maybe, uh, if DePars is the 10, these guys are maybe an eight. It's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. I was going to say, I thought you were going to land in the four or five range, but eight's pretty good. No. No. No. You know, you know, we know,
you've got pancake house in your name, well, I was going to say that you automatically succeed,
but the international house of pancakes has garbage pancakes. So I can't really, I can't really use
that descriptors. That's true. When I go to IHOP, any iteration of IHop, the pancakes are always bad.
Yeah. I don't know why. They're just, they're chalky. Portland, Oregon. Thank you, A.V. Tech
John. So the original pancake house was formed in Portland, Oregon.
Of course. Freaking Portland with all their hipster freaking. We did it
first bullshit you guys out there you guys yeah it is funny though i mean you open a restaurant
was it was it called the original pancake house when they opened the first one it probably wasn't
right it was called the pancake house yeah because they didn't and then iHop probably came out and they
said oh we need to change our name to the original pancake house but then you open other locations
only your first one is the original pancake house that's right that's right you can only only
from then on be the second the third the fourth whatever right exactly yeah that naming it's like
calling something the new super mario brothers you there's no there's nowhere to go from there you've locked
yourself i completely agree i do like a good diner though i don't care even sometimes if the food's
bad there's something about the experience that i always glom on to i love it for sure that's great
and um uh every everywhere we went um every place we had breakfast
California, Southern California anyway, is on point for having a bazillion hot sauces on the table to choose from to dump onto your eggs, which I love.
Just keep that, keep that magic happening.
Yeah, you don't want just one.
You want all of them.
I want all the hot sauces.
Bring me all the hot sauces you have.
I don't think you hurt me, son.
That's right.
Son, I don't think you hurt me.
Bring me all the bacon and things you have.
Uh, so, uh, got to hang in them in the aforementioned Ashley and Jason, who are just awesome people.
They're just so cool and, and they're great.
They're getting a chance to talk to them and.
Yep.
The fresh, the fresh face nerds of Hollywood.
I love them.
They really are.
They're like king and queen of the prom, those two, I swear.
Yeah.
Um, all right, let's talk panels because the first thing I got asked when I logged in, uh, to chat this morning was,
did you get into Hall H for the Marvel, uh, presentation?
And let me tell you, so that was Saturday morning, early, early Saturday morning, got up early and got shuffled down into the waiting queue and moved into the big hall where celebrities came out on stage.
However, they were the celebrities from National Geographic's critter fixers, Dr. Paul, veterinarian, and Animal Kingdom.
veterinarians.
Which, you know, no shame, no shade.
Those guys are great, but...
Those guys are great.
You know, that was actually a really cool panel because I'll bet you the Marvel panel
didn't have people bring out live ferrets, snakes, a fuzzy armadillo, which I'd never seen
before.
And so that was kind of cool.
They also had me sitting in the third row of the audience with my phone looking stealthily
down in my lap watching the live blog.
of the Marvel announcement.
I was going to say,
you would still,
even if you're in there,
you're still going to find a way
to like tap into the thing
you meant to be in.
If I would have had my
AirPods with me at the,
at the event,
it seriously would have been,
I would have been the guy
sitting there in church
watching the Packers game,
basically.
That's great.
Were you able to follow it
pretty well, I guess?
Probably good.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was,
it was great kind of watching
all that stuff get announced.
And then basically,
you know,
we got back to the hotel room.
I watched all the teaser trailers and, you know, all right.
So I didn't get to see Tom Hiddleston come out and brush past you
with whatever amazing cologne he'd be wearing and that sort of thing.
Exactly.
Or Sophie, you know, she-loki.
Oh, Shloki.
I call her Shloki.
Can we call her Shloki?
Yeah, Shloki.
I guess her name is, Sophie is her name on the show, right?
Sophia.
Sophia.
Sophia.
I know the actress name is
Loki.
I don't know.
Yeah, Lekea.
Anyway, but yeah, it would have been nice to be in that hall
and get to see everything there.
Now, I will say this.
One of the panels that we did get accepted into
was for a new Marvel property
animated series called Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur,
which is a couple of newer characters
that they've introduced.
Teenage African-Americans
American superhero who is as smart as Tony Stark.
And so it's this animated series.
We watched it with none other than Lawrence Fishburn, who's the executive producer on
the show, in a room that maybe held 100 people.
Much smaller than the 7,500 people in Hall H.
So there's that.
Wow, Fishburn commanding quite the little audience there.
That's awesome.
he really was yeah and then they brought out the rest of the cast sadly uh i definitely heard
alison brie in they what they let us watch the entire first episode which doesn't come out until
september 23 they took away our phones so we couldn't record any of it or take pictures or anything
like that and um uh so i and they also said no spoilers but you can talk about watching it you
can talk about if you enjoy it or not and i did it we did enjoy it a lot very into the spider verse
meets Powerpuff girls in the animation style.
Oh.
Like a lot of, you know, the characters, you know,
words coming out of the characters' actions and reactions,
not just what they're saying, but like also,
you know, like you get emojis and stuff
when somebody reacts to something.
Speaking Carter's language.
I don't know if she's in the chat today,
but that sounds like her jam.
Oh, yeah.
She'll totally, totally, uh, totally, uh,
totally dig that um what else oh yeah they gave us a free like they gave us all plush double dinosaurs
oh my gosh van would kill you for that he would murder you take it from your body oh that's right
he loves dinosaurs he loves him loves him when's his birthday uh January so you got a ways oh okay
well who knows we still have one ramp in plastic so we'll see all right uh just like the body on twin peaks
it's perfect
what else
let's see
oh and then
we basically
bookended the whole event
with Disneyland
went to Disneyland
on the first day
the day we arrived
and Anaheim
dropped everything
off of the hotel
oh yeah
also got to talk
about meeting Craig
Craig
Craig is
does marketing
for the Cambria
or Cambria
hotel in Anaheim
brand new hotel
and this hotel
made me wish
that BlizzCon was still a thing because this is exactly where Tristan and I would be staying.
Is it close? Is it right near the convention?
It's right near the conventions. I mean, it's a, it's a 15, 20 minute walk to the convention center.
So just about as far as where we used to stay down, not as close as the Hilton, obviously, which is right next door.
But it's just down Ketella a little bit.
That's cool. That's not far at all.
Easily close enough that, you know, you can walk and not have the mayhem in the
nonsense going on at the Hilton and the Marriott and stuff that are right next to it.
He's even doing a, and I'll have, I recorded some video stuff about the trip and Disneyland and Ogibu
Unite in the hotel, but he's going to do a TMS discount.
So if you go to Cambriess, Anaheim.com and do L-TMS for Love TMS, you get a discounted room
rate. Um, so you can go to Disneyland. This place is so cool. This hotel has like water slides,
big old pool in the back. We, I, I went hung out the pool when I kind of had enough of the
people at D23. Sure. Which happened a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little much. It's a little much.
I get it. It is a little much. Yeah. Um, anyway, so we'll talk about that, the hotel in the video,
but definitely, definitely very cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, the BlizzCon thing, comparing Blis, D23 and
blizzcon just kind of a really quick
side by side
blizcon
very dark right like they
it was it was
dark inside the
expo with just lights where they needed
lights to be on just you know the vendors
and this food thing and
and the arenas and stuff like that
they felt like they had all the lights on
for D23
every light in the Anaheim convention
is that because there's a ton of like
cosplay walking around and stuff? Is that why they do it?
I think so. And I think also just the vibe is very
different like, Disney is all like,
oh, okay, hi, you know, happy all that stuff.
While BlizzCon is like,
I killed my father and took his sword and blah, blah, blah,
and I've got to defeat the demon.
Yeah, I think you're right. There is something to do that.
That's why they do that, I think.
But the, um, uh, makes it seem bigger though when they do it dark, right?
Like it seems like a much more cavernous sort of experience.
Yeah, it totally does.
Um, for sure.
The, uh, the cosplay was great.
Again, you know, kind of a thing similar to BlissCon where,
as opposed to a Comic-Con where you can dress up as anything,
if you go to BlizzCon or you go to D23,
you're kind of limited to, nope, I pretty much can only cosplay as something from Disney,
uh, you know, Disney studios or from Blizzard.
Um,
you're not going to see a Batman cosplay there.
You're not going to see a Batman cosplay now.
That's a shit.
Uh,
this was the only
like every vendor there
had a huge long line
if you wanted to buy their stuff
and that was the same at BlizzCon
I remember if you wanted to go to the Jink store
you basically had to wait in a
20 minute line
to get in but
so we had to be really picky and choosy
about like all right well do we really think
we're going to buy anything there? Nope then let's not wait
in line. They had box lunge
and
Funko and stuff like that
we did wait in line for Roosevelt
which is the shirt I'm wearing today.
It is the D23
exclusive Groguu t-shirt,
or I'm sorry, a buttoned up shirt.
Yeah.
Nice little Hawaiian shirt with Grogu and a bunch of frogs on it.
Yeah.
All right.
Cool.
So that was kind of fun.
And then lastly, I'll just talk really quickly about Oogie Buggy Bash.
So starting in September, late August,
you know, 55 days before Halloween,
Disney starts celebrating Halloween by closing
California adventure at 6 p.m.
And opening it up only to this event called Oogie Buggy Bash,
where they take out all of like Buzz and Woody and all that stuff and replace them with
villains.
So you get Agatha Harkness and Zombie Captain America and Cruella DeVille and Ugui Boogie,
of course.
Ugy Boogie Dice Tomato asking, you apparently need to watch A Nightmare Before
Christmas, Dice Tomato.
Yeah, Dice Tomato.
What are you talking about in there?
Are you, you uncultured swine.
You must watch that film.
What is oggy-buggy?
Oh, man.
They set up tree trails where, like, you go through and, you know, they give you a bag
at the entrance and you walk through these tree trails and they shove snickers and M&Ms in
your bag.
Turn on the dark versions of all the rides.
So Guardians of the Galaxy has a.
Halloween theme where
Rockets trying to save Groot
and the car's ride
has some Halloween stuff and
and all
things like that.
What else?
The parade, which I thought was going to be
kind of lame, turned out to be actually
kind of technologically cool.
That's good. I always think parades are going to be
lame until they're not, you know?
Totally, yeah. Default position on parades is
they're going to be bad, but I'm glad to hear that
wasn't. That's good.
But anyway, anyway,
Anyway, yeah, it was a great time. It was a really good weekend and glad to be back home, glad to return to normalcy. Big thanks to 9 of 12 for her impersonation of me over there at TMS Asheville.
Killer, killer version of Brian. I mean, even the face, get on.
Greetings, greetings, citizens.
Put me up on Guess the Connection. Greetings. Cracked me up pretty hard.
Yeah. Well, good. I'm glad you're home.
I had watched that in the airport and I watched the entirety of that.
Did, good.
I'd call in thing.
You had a whirlwind couple of weeks, so it's probably nice to settle a little.
I am so glad.
No more travel for a while.
Yeah.
It's good to have a little space between that stuff.
Yeah.
Well, all right.
Well, awesome.
Yeah.
Well, later on, when Stephen gets here, we're going to go a little deeper into
stuff they actually talked about at the Marble event, so stick around for that.
If you wanted the Dietz, we'll have those.
But for now, we're going to do a thing we're going to do on the monthly.
You know, when PM, you got.
changed around. Everyone said, where did Dan go? Right. And I said, well, he didn't go anywhere. We're
just going to figure out a way to squeeze him in here because we like Dan and we don't want to lose
out on Dan time. And so, ladies and gentlemen, I bring you some additional Dan time if he answers
this call, which I am currently ringing him at. If he picks this up, then we know we're in good
shape. There he is right there. Now, if I hit this, here's a tangent for him.
be careful may cause drowsiness hey look who it is it's our old pal dan dan what's going on
what is what's up man i feel like we haven't talked to you in a thousand years what's going on
greetings programs boy i've missed you guys this is like uh it's like a new building in here it's
been so long and like i'm not drinking a beer because it's not happy hour like i wasn't p m i actually
have coffee now so this is uh we send a lot of the employees home they're working virtually
now uh we closed off uh the the commissary
No one's using it.
Yeah.
Fire the janitors.
This is why I don't feel anybody breathing on the back of my neck when I'm on here because all the employees are gone.
That's right.
Actually, this is a bit of a step up in a weird way because now patrons and non-painters
like to hear Dan's hot takes on the world around us.
Yeah, it's awesome.
You know, more great game goodness and just crazy pharmacy crap for the world to hear now.
I'm excited about that.
I am too.
Brian, can I ask you one thing about D23?
Ask anything about D20.
It's game-related.
and I think it was on a floor,
so I don't know if you got a chance to see this.
So Disney, well, Ravensburger and Disney just announced a CCG
called Disney Lorcanna.
It's basically like Disney's version of Magic the Gathering for easy,
just for ease of talking about it.
I mean, obviously, it's going to be a little bit different,
but that's kind of what it's going to be.
And it's funny because they had a booth there at D23,
and they were also kind of given away these,
I mean, I wish I would have realized you were up there
if I had been paying more attention.
I would have been,
I would have told you.
early in the weekend to see if you can get over there to get one of these
these kind of like collectors pack
that they were given away for D-23
with all these cards and starter set
the game is not supposed to be out for another year but they were
given away all this crap for the games and stuff
like that and always amazes me.
I'm looking with the logo right now.
I never saw this
anywhere and we
basically between panels
just spent all the time walking around
the show floor and
I did not see anything about this.
This looks really cool like an actual
physical, collectible trading card game
as opposed to something digital.
Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
That's cool.
Yeah, and it's, I mean, looking at some of the cars and stuff,
it doesn't look, so it's funny because, you know,
being Disney, and I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this,
Disney likes money.
Oh, they're super into it.
Yeah, they're super into it.
Yeah.
They love you.
They're going to have to make this game, you know,
good for just pretty much everybody.
So you're going to have to bring in the hardcores,
the kids, the, you know, the just people without kids,
people just love Disney too,
that may not be in the gaming.
So it's going to be interesting to see
how they put this game together.
And looking at some of the cards,
it's interesting to see the complexity
is kind of a little all over the place
because it doesn't look too bad.
And you try to figure out
because there's really not a big rule set
that I found out there yesterday,
just the kind of the tease of the cards.
So, you know, it looks like you kind of do
a lot of the similar battling
to Magic the Gathering looks like,
but I think there's going to be like you can
kind of replace a base Mickey
with a different type of Mickey
and things like that,
you know, for a character
to different things.
types of those characters for battle.
So, again, no idea how it's going to play.
I just, I'm just hoping it's fun.
Yeah, I wish I would have seen this because I would have totally
weighed in line to grab a, you know, sample pack or whatever it was.
They were given away.
Yeah.
That would have been cool.
Didn't we get a, sorry, go ahead, Dan.
Oh, I was going to say the light consumerism there is out there.
They were given away just kind of some promo cards here and there, other than the pack.
I think they had like single promo cards.
People are putting them up on eBay for like $400 bucks already.
Jeez.
It's unbelievable.
400. Oh, my lord.
Yeah, that CCG world, freaking magic world,
and the money people spend, insane.
Yeah.
To me.
Real quick here, didn't they announce a release date in the States for Snap?
Yes, they did.
October 18th for Marvel Snap, so a little over a month.
Nice.
Yeah, at some point, what I'd like to do is do a video
or like do a thing where you and I,
I teach you the game and everybody who watches the stream.
let's do that before it comes out so that yeah so you can see all right here's here are the different
kind of decks that you want to put together as soon as you get the game and and uh i'm down
they all work totally down that's a great that was great i mean it's super excited for that and
i i never got in to uh me neither yeah i way i didn't want to jump through the hoops to do the
international download and i just don't know i just didn't bother but now we have a date it's like
all right i have something to look forward to gonna crack it open brian knows all the the ropes he can
show us what's up. It was a perfect passing the time while I was waiting in line for stuff
and there was a lot of waiting in line for stuff. Oh yeah. That's the name of the game at D23.
The convention world waiting in line of the game. Exactly. There you go. All right. Hey, Dan,
I got a question for you from a listener. Are you ready for this? Yes, indeed. So for all,
for those unaware, for those who never heard a PM episode of the show, Dan is not only a huge
enthusiast about tabletop and board gaming. He is also a full-time professional.
dude in the medical business, specifically pharmaceuticals, and sometimes we had questions
about this stuff. So we thought it would be fun to turn this segment into, hey, here's a cool game
Dan found out about. But also, here's a question that maybe people have about, you know, the world about
the biotech and pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals. They often call me a doctor of pharmacy, which I am.
Yeah, you're a doctor of pharmacy. Exactly. I like that. Yeah, I am a doctor of pharmacy. I like that a lot.
All right. So this guy named Terrell wrote in, and he said this, Dear Morning Stream People, I have a question for Dan for the next time he's on. Well, your day has come in. Your boat has come in, Terrell. He says, is it true that doctors often recommend certain meds to patients because they get kickbacks from biotech companies, not because it's good for the patient? Is his perspective different through or enough to shed some light on this, meaning you, Dan? Thanks, says Terrell. I often wondered this as well, because I've been to a couple of different doctors.
in a row because of insurance change and one of them was recommending one thing and i get to the
other one and they're recommending something else when i said well wait with this last guy recommended
that and he goes oh that's probably just because he has samples and was told and you know he he
he doesn't know about this one or whatever and it just seemed like they were weirdly brand focused
like so so by your by the sound of your yep it sounds like there's something to this so i've got
of you'll get a lot of questions and I'm telling you between myself, Dr. Tolbert and
Buckeye Fitsy, the legal geek, we could do like a three-hour show talking about the legalities
of this sort of thing, but I'll simplify it as best as I can. This is another one of those
things where it's not legal anymore, but it is legal anymore. So it's one of these is where
you can get away with a lot of things and a lot of lawyers will tell you it's not what's illegal.
It's not what is right or wrong. It's what I can prove in a way. Oh God. And a lot of times you
don't really, and there was the Wild West. So the mid-90s, when I was in pharmacy school,
I did rotations with some doctors. I did a rotation with a private, a buddy of mine that was a
doctor in a private office in the middle of Benson, North Carolina. And that was still kind of
the end of the Wild West. So there are legislation. So in all different industries, there's
anti-kickback statutes. And they've kind of specified a lot of it into the drug world as well.
A lot of times because it has a lot of government involvement. And a lot of times you're not going to
see a lot of this stuff, unless it has to do with Medicaid and Medicare. Like, when you're talking
about bringing patients in, you know, we're getting away from the drug just for a second. But
when we're talking about, like, bringing patients to one place or another with kickbacks, that'll
really get you in trouble. And they've really cut back on that because there was a lot of Fagasy
stuff going on to get certain patients to go to certain practices and stuff. So we're not talking
about that, but that is very highly illegal. And they look about stuff. And it tells you, like,
who's really looking out to nail it to the wall is also big farmer. Like, if they stay off of each
others toes, you know, if everybody's getting a little slice of a pie, nobody's really
making a big deal. But when the government starts losing their slice of a pie, then it's a big
deal. So in the mid to late 90s, my buddy had, I kid you not, he had a refrigerator in his
office that was given to him by a drug company. He had golf clubs that were given to him by a drug
company. And we would have, we would have meals constantly. There'd be dinners. There'd be
golf. We went to a golf tournament that was completely paid for. So some of that stuff can still,
you can still get away with some of that stuff. Obviously, the refrigerator stuff,
you can't do that crap anymore. Like, you cannot benefit that way. It has to be basically
either educationally based. Again, there's ways around a lot of the stuff, and there's federal laws,
there's state laws. All the stuff is, is a little bit different now. They've really clamped down,
but you still can get some of this stuff and they've hide it. Like, so in pharmacy, like, we would
see some of this stuff usually by continuing education. So we would get like dinners from, you know,
company x they'll have like a dinner with a speaker and that speaker is going to talk about
this drug class but then at the end he's going to be like well use my boner x because it's a
lot better than all the other boner pills out there you know so you'll see stuff like that so
can i trademark that name really quick by the bonner x but but again so you have um and
again i don't want to talk about like there are some of the best looking men and women i've
ever seen in my life are drug raps and there's a reason for that you know uh listen i'm not
And it definitely helps because you remember the people you talk to.
And from seeing some of these drug reps, and again, the drug reps coming into my office in pharmacy and when I was doing rotations, every drug that they come in to talk about, there's something that makes it the greatest thing in the world.
There may be 10 other things that they're not telling you about, but this is why this drug is the same thing.
Nowadays, almost every single, and Scott, you're a perfect example.
because uh and um
and excuse me for
Scott I may use the wrong medication and I'm not
I don't want to avoid HIPAA but I think there was
a time where you were on an ACE inhibitor
and there's a lot there's there's a billion
ACE inhibitors and most of the
especially now because it's been so long most of the good
ones are generic so it was either like
Lysynapril Quintapril Ramapril
those are all generic ACE inhibitors
some of them are pennies some of them are like
$10 to $20 but none of them are
the greatest thing in the world
like as far as the newest and latest thing
Because you don't need, they're what they call Me Too drugs, because they're all the same drug class.
There's not really, I mean, there are, again, I'm generalizing, there's not really huge difference between drug A and drug B in this class.
There may be little differences, and most doctors will know the little differences.
But, you know, if you got three different brand names in that, you know, the newest, latest brand name of that, they may come in in and be like, hey, Dr. Ribbitt, hey, this one has shown to reduce mortalities by 2.002% in elderly male.
said we got to get you to write this one for us
and then it'll be like oh and how would you like
would you like Outback for lunch tomorrow
how many people do you have in here
so and again they
they also regulate that where it's only a certain amount of money
they can spend and then they have to log
everything kind of like um
again it's a little it's a little bit of apples to oranges
but let's just say Scott you get
just company
Ibidex
you know drug not drug company
Ibidex video company
video game company wants you to do a game on
A direct subsidiary of Bonerax, by the way.
Bonaracts, yeah.
We're the producer of Bonaract.
Ivacan International.
Sure.
What wants you to do the, want you to review this video game.
Ibacan, the pharmaceuticals.
He wants you to do the new game for, oh, what's his name, Don Chito.
What do we just say?
Armour Wars.
Yeah, I want you to do the official video game for Armour Wars.
And I'm going to give you $1,000 to review it on stream.
you're not holding anybody
for lack of a better term
you're not holding anybody at gunpoint
and you're not prescribing that game to people
so it's a little bit different
because you're not the one
you're just influencing them
but you're still going to want to say
hey I was paid for this review
yeah you do usually
yeah you're supposed to
when you're getting things like as far as
samples are a different thing
because that's just you're passing on
the savings to the customers and stuff
and still getting people started on your med
but if you're getting like free things in here
there's a lot of logs and stuff that
a lot of, you know, it's pretty common now that, you know, HR or the wife's manager.
Does a doctor have to, like, let's say a doctor gets, like the Outback Steakhouse thing,
are they in or any obligation with the patient that they talked to that day to go, oh, I think
you really should try this one, small disclaimer, hashtag ad, I, I'm going to lunch tomorrow
at a thing for free because they gave me this.
I had Outback, I had a blooming onion because of this.
No, they wouldn't have to say anything like that.
As far as I know, they would have, but they may have a log somewhere of all the drug reps that have come in, just so if any governing body wants to come in and say, oh, hey, have you seen this drip rep or that?
They're usually checking up on the companies rather than the doctors.
Yeah.
And again, unless you're making big waves or writing, you know, if you've got Medicaid patients and you're putting everybody on this $5,000 a day med, which probably needs a prior authorization anyway.
But if you're putting them on all of stuff, you're going to raise, you know, raise weights.
and stuff like that. And also, so the government, um, allegedly, well, I wouldn't say allegedly
because I know it's true, but the government also has its own ways of kind of, I wouldn't call
them kickbacks, but they're called rebates. So all formularies, because I work kind of more in the,
in that sector now where it comes to like doing formulary management and, uh, and prioritizations.
So when you're talking about Medicaid, they'll get rebates from companies. So the reason why
nothing's wrong with that is because they're really passing on the, the savings kind of onto the
patient and they're getting the patient of medicine. It's just that they are getting their own,
for lack of a better term, kickback from the drug companies to write. So you'll have some
formularies, like there are states and Medicaid programs where you use, let's just say
Simbacort, which is an inhaler. It's available generically, but the brand name is Tier 1 on
formulary and you don't need a prior authorization. So it goes through and it's free for the patient.
Now, where is, you know, as far as the public goes, there's nothing wrong with that.
Sure. Especially in my opinion, like, it's just a pain in the butt for, for, for,
you know, the pharmacies and doctors to figure out what's on formula.
There's always a list online, but, you know, the only people that that's hurting
are the generic manufacturer of that particular med because the brand, the patient's
getting a brand for free, and they don't care.
And it works, you know, again, I'm always a proponent that 99.9% of the time, brand and generic,
same thing.
Yeah.
Use whatever's cheaper for you, whatever works for you.
Yeah, don't let that, it's like in the, even in the owner counter the world,
you're like, it says Kroger, it's fine, dude.
It's ibuprofen.
Just but make sure you read the labels, especially.
the over-the-counter stuff because, and I think, Scott, we had this with some of your stomach
meds where it may be called the same thing as another thing, or it may say like stomach-medic
medicine, but it's actually a different active ingredient than what you might think it is.
Right.
So you always got to look at the active ingredients, because some of them may say it's stomach-medicine,
may have jack crap in it.
They just have some weird herbal supplement that could interfere with something else that you're
taking.
So always read the labels.
If you're going to take herbs, especially over-the-counter's, always ask your pharmacist about
any interactions with what you may be taking prescriptions.
prescription-wise, because some people, they just, they just read something.
They may already be on an anti-inflammatory med for their arthritis, and then, you know,
prescription-wise, and then they'll go grab something else, which just happens to be able to
counter, and it says something like headache medicine, but it's the exact same medicine or in the same
class as the other anti-inflammatory, next thing you know, you've got a bleeding ulcer and you're dead.
So you don't want to do stuff like that.
No, don't do that. Don't be having a bleeding ulcer and die.
Don't be doing that. That'd be bad. Plus, they'll find you, and sometimes that blood comes
out of your anus. Nobody wants to see that. We don't want to see that.
Yeah. And that's another
Yeah, that's another kind of
because your blood
out of your anus, depending on if it's one color or another,
you know, because that
actually tells you a lot about
where the bleed is coming from. That's right.
They need more children's books
that say, the color of my
blood is dark red.
What does that mean? The color of my
stool. There's red blood in a school or that you could
have a black tarry stool. That's all different
kind of areas of where you may be bleeding. From the
makers of everybody poops. Everybody bleeds out there. Yeah, everybody bleeds. Just need to know what kind of blood it is. All right. Well, this confirms a lot for me because I kind of had a suspicion. But they don't really talk about it. Nobody talks about this. Like, I feel like it just doesn't come up. It feels like conspiracy a little bit. You know, like, oh. And it is a way a lot less than it used to be. And it's funny because you could tell, especially when I was in retail, you could tell what drug reps got to wear. Because, you know, sometimes they would come to us and be like, oh, you know, Miss Jenkins came in to, uh,
to show off Bonarex.
So I saw that Dr. Ribbitt wrote a lot of scripts of Bonar X this week,
so she must have made it over to his office today.
You know, the use of Dr. Ribbitt is cracking me up since your dad is a doctor,
Brian, so it's cracking me up to hear your doctor of it.
Yeah, I have him passing around these scripts all day.
Yeah, I'm, we need some more Bonarex here at the clinic.
Just picturing your dad do it.
Well, that's, for the most part, drug reps are great because, again, you can't get as, as a doctor
and as, you know, as MDs and as a doctor pharmacy, you don't have all the time in a world to, I mean, you go to continuing education a certain amount of year, but you're not, and more and more drugs are coming out.
So drug reps are an actual invaluable tool for the companies to get new things, you know, new drugs in front of the eyes.
And again, you got to, you always have to do your research as yourself.
So if a doctor sees that this drug is the newest thing, you know, in an ACE inhibitors, they're going to have to look and see, well, is it really better than Ramaph,
or Acinapril, is it really better for my patients than that?
And then sometimes, some people just have like the greatest insurance in the world.
Yeah.
And they're like, I don't care what it costs because my insurance is going to cover it.
So they'll just write it for them.
Yeah.
It's going to be 10 bucks anyway.
Yeah, they don't care.
If they got the money or the coverage, then just do it.
I get that.
It's a weird market we live in.
Also, Ramapril sounds like Ramapil, and I'm not interested in your ramapril.
Sounds like it's only going up in place.
And that is an actual drug.
And that's actually a very, very, very, very, very good.
good ACE inhibitor for, you know, heart protection and kidney protection.
Very good, very good blood pressure medication.
It's not the one that doesn't make a cough, does it?
Is it one of the cough?
Well, they all can.
They all have like a 5% chance or something, right?
Yeah, it's just a side effect of that drug class where ACE inhibitors can give you the
ACE inhibitor cough, which is harmless.
It's just a real pain in the ass.
And, you know, nobody wants to have a dry, hacky cough all the time.
No, especially when they do podcasting for full time.
Freaking F that.
Yeah, kind of a bad, bad combo.
Yeah.
go and if you're if anyone out there's having trouble with that ask your doctor about
losartan that's what they put me on it worked great yep and that's an a ARB which is a kind of an
offshoot it's kind of like the improved ACE inhibitors they work a little bit
different it worked very similar but different and they still can give you that cough but
very it's much more rare with ARBs and they are some good generic ARBs that are out there
that are still kind of you know cheaper to get to as well and there's and there's a few brand name
one so again just always talk to your doctor about which one is better for you
This is great.
I love this.
This is like we have a CNBC segment on the show now.
Dan, this feels very like, oh, your health today.
You know, I love this.
And just remember, well, I want to say I can't be bought, but I can be bought for the right price.
No, I'm kidding.
You know, I will never tell you anything because I have no drug companies.
But if Bonorex wants to reach out for me, my email is.
We'll let you know.
Brian's, Brian has been busy founding the trademark while we're talking.
I'm already getting us a reservation at Outback.
Yeah, let's do it.
Oh, there we go.
We're going to go have a good meal and talk about Bono.
Hopefully the meal won't last four hours or longer.
I'm in the mood.
I'm in the mood for steak, which means I'm in the mood for Los Artan, I guess.
Anyway.
Hey, I love having you back in a regular way.
So let's make this a date every month.
We're going to do this at least ones.
Can I give you a real cool?
Well, I know, well, you said it's jampack, but if you have time for a game.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'll be quick with it.
So I put it in the chat for us.
This is a really cool game.
It's very simple.
It's like 20 bucks.
It's called kites.
It came out from Floodgate games.
And now this is what I want to say is sometimes the simplest ideas are the games that go,
well, why the hell didn't I think it at are my favorite types of games?
So this is a game and it's about you want to keep all your kites flying in the air.
And it's a co-op game.
So the three of us would be playing together.
There are sand timers in this game.
So there is, I think the game comes with five or six sand timers and you can play like a simpler game with four.
So you have cards that have different color kites.
They may have one color or two colors on it.
When you start the game, you flip over one of the sand timers, like the white sand timer.
You play a card from your hand.
You have to flip over that sand timer.
Now, and then all of them start on their side, so they're not automatically all running at first.
So as you put cards down, you're flipping over a sand timer.
Now, as the sand timers kind of get low, you have to play a card to flip them over.
And the different sand timers have different times.
Like the red one goes really fast.
The yellow one goes very, very slow.
But as we're going around a table,
And this is co-op, because we don't want to, we don't want any of the kites to fall.
So we're kind of looking at there.
And in some co-op games, like the game or the mind, like you can't really talk because that's completely cheating and it'll completely ruin the game.
This, talk all you want.
It only takes time, but you don't have time.
You know, so there's really no cheating there.
You're like, somebody's got to get this right.
I got the right.
And then somebody else is putting, you know, Brian is putting down the yellow and blue card just to flip over those two.
And you've got to keep flipping over these sand timers so that none of them runs out.
And if you can get through all your cards, because you'll have a,
on the cards to start and then like a small deck.
And as you play a card, you're replenishing.
You're trying to get through all the cards and have none of the kites go down.
If you play a card with a single color, you flip over the white one.
And, you know, that's the only way to flip over the white one is because there's no white
ones on the cards.
But you're basically just doing a juggling app to keep all the kites in the air.
Very, very simple.
Just an amazing design just came out this year.
Again, very cheap and a perfect family game.
A perfect Johnson game, if you will.
A Johnson game.
The rules are about two pages.
is that all i explained everything for for you right there okay big letters too in the rulebook
yeah no kidding big fat letters from my big dumb eyes this is great uh this actually sounds like
a whole lot of fun i was i always like a good co-op game so uh this looks up my alley if you guys
want to read more go to the board game geek uh website which finally by the way
uh integrated all their functionality into one format they're for the longest time it's
oh we've got a new landing page for the game but the image uh
looking pages are from 20 years ago and so are the videos but it's so annoying but now it's all
integrated it's all very nice now so you can go find it go check it out kites out now all right so
all right so long boys dan anytime buddy i'll see you next month i'll talk to you and uh and have a
great day stay out of trouble we'll see you by now all right we are going to either have well
we got to make a decision we're going to have the the shortest half asses ever
or we bump half-hast us to tomorrow,
which I don't like.
I don't like doing that either.
We can probably do it fast and you know what?
Stephen, you're in the chat.
How are you feeling?
You good?
I mean, we've got, I mean, you know,
we've just got Stephen in the second half, right?
Yeah, just making sure he's okay.
Let's just make sure.
Aren't we podcasters?
Don't we control how long this episode goes?
Ah, there he is.
He says his day is open.
So good.
We're just going to do it our way.
then we're playing half-hasses it does depend on his schedule doesn't it yeah i don't want to
assume anything i may you know i can watch hoda and jena any time but uh stephen's got a schedule to me
that's true hopefully this uh doesn't foul done away up on his his day but uh should be okay so
let's just give it a shot and see where we land
do do do do do do that's right it's time for half asses with uh brian dunaway who's on the line
right now hi brian oh hi scott and brian hi oh
my schedule doesn't matter
well it occurred to me that you would
if I didn't get the pickup that might have been assigned
but since you picked up I feel like it's okay
I'm glad to have you know I'm always easy
you're pretty easy I'm always yeah you're like boner X
easy back easy boner
hey that was fun the other day doing that video
we were sad not to have Brian there but thanks for sitting in on that
that was a good time it's fun to watch so I felt like I was there in spirit
and in a two-dimensional glued to a ruler stick puppet.
Yep, yep.
I did want to, the whole experience made me want to hang out with those guys because they're all great people
and they all seem to be having a good time.
And that house is freaking weird.
That was a weird house you all rented.
Very weird.
But it's fun to experience.
I was trying to wing my options.
I was saying myself, oh, man, the decisions I would have to make.
Stay in a luxury hotel with water slides or sleep on an astro turf floor with the TP.
Yeah.
With those weird fake fire things and the little fake tree stumps.
Little pillows tree stumps.
Yeah.
I mean, how can you decide?
It's just too hard.
I am glad that nobody brought a black light to that place.
There definitely has been some stuff going on there.
I guarantee it.
I guarantee it.
Swings had a lot of convenient holes in places.
Let me just say that.
Lots of holes.
Anyway, hey, Donaway, it's good to have you here.
We're going to play this game.
Brian Dibbitt here will explain the rules and how we're going to win stuff.
for other people. Brian, take it away. I'll do the abbreviated version. Welcome to the
morning. Half-Ass is a trivia game. We're actually going to be giving you to the answers. I'll give
Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers, three which are correct, and three that are
incorrect. Depending on how confident they feel with the category, they can provide one, two, or three
guesses, getting one, three or five points depending on how well they do. See how you did
there? Three rounds, player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their
contestant, and I've pulled contestants from members of the tadpool.
that aren't able to listen live.
Scott, you're going to be playing for The Jen
over there in Las Vegas.
And Brian, you're going to be playing for Chad
in Mantica, California, or Menteca.
Oh, Jeds. I love me and Chad.
Yeah, you like yourself to Chad.
I like The Jen because she needs, look, she's a teacher.
You know, you're working on a budget.
You don't have time to go grab games.
Let's give her some. That's great.
Plus, she lives in that little gin lap
And she's got to grant the wishes.
That's right.
She's the genie.
Hey, Scott, join the game, by the way.
Oh, sorry, shit.
I got to get in.
Sorry.
My bad.
They were originally called the gins, right?
That was what they were called.
We started calling them genies later.
Yes, right.
Yeah.
You called them the gin.
You mean the gin, not the gen, but yes.
Oh, the gen.
The gen.
The gen.
Yeah.
Tina says, Tina says milk instead of milk.
She would say Jen instead of gin.
Okay.
Well, that works.
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever it takes.
I'm in now.
I'm now in the game.
Let me ask you a quick question.
What was it?
Oh, did you already say what games they are, or what the prizes are?
Oh, prizes today.
Winner is going to get a copy of Gauntlet.
Gauntlet Lilith the Necromancer.
I basically merged those two four first words.
The Gauntlet Slayer Edition and Gauntlet Lilith the Necromancer pack.
So the game and DLC.
Nice.
Courtesy of Racer in N-5-1.
That's awesome.
It's a good game.
Runner up is going to get desperadoes three.
We're three desperadoes now.
Yeah, runner up might be the big winner.
That's an awesome game.
It's a very good.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very good.
Cool.
All right, let's get things started.
You guys are both logged into the game.
Let's give you a first question.
Remember, three of these are real.
Three of these are fake.
The first one, appropriately enough.
Yes, I did search through the deck until I found one.
Birds from a Disney movie.
So which of these are names?
names of birds from a Disney movie.
Your choices are Snarfblatt, Nigel, Mimsy, Ducky, Archimedes, and Iago.
Birds.
Snarflat.
Burbs.
Yes, which of these are burbs.
Snarfblatt sounds familiar.
Starflat.
Well, I know a couple of these.
B-Boy D is locked in.
Oh, I'll lock this.
Scott is locked in.
Yeah.
Uh, you guys both picked Archimedes.
of course, Archimedes from
Sword and the Stone. The Seagull,
I think, right? I think so.
Owl. Owl? Oh, yeah, right.
Al-Duh. Yeah.
Iago, of course, the parrot from
the Lion King. No,
the parrot from Aladdin. Just kidding.
Let me see if I get... The voice of
the recently deceased
Affleck.
Gilbert Godfrey, yeah.
Yes. Sadden.
Mimsy, which Brian also
chose,
is not... Mimsy is the
is a word from the Jabberwocky poem.
Snarfblatt is the pipe from The Little Mermaid,
what she calls a pipe,
and Ducky is the dinosaur from the Land Before Time.
Neither of you picked that.
Nigel, the other one,
the penguin from finding,
I'm sorry, Pelican from finding Nemo.
Oh, so this is what threw me.
Oh, that's right.
Ducky's not a Disney movie or wouldn't be from a Disney movie.
That's a non-Disney property.
So that's true.
Well, and Ducky's also a dinosaur.
Not a bird.
But I'm saying, your category says birds from Disney movies, and that's not a Disney movie.
Right.
But even if that was a Disney movie.
Yeah.
Even if the Disney movie.
Yeah.
It's still a dinosaur, which, hey, that's where birds came from.
I don't argue it.
Isn't that where birds came from?
The dinosaurs?
Okay.
All right.
See, I made a connection.
Maybe, maybe.
Yeah.
I watched the JP Dominion.
Yeah.
They didn't cover it.
No.
They came from Jesus.
Let's get to question number two.
Cities Along the Silk Road.
We've covered entertainment.
Now let's go to Geography.
So which of these six are cities along the Silk Road?
Marrakesh, Timbuktu, Almaty, London, Tashkent, or Samarkand?
I don't know any of this.
Summerkand.
I don't know any of this.
More like Somicant.
I'm just going to guess.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
It's a tough one.
All right.
You guys are both locked.
in with two each. Neither of you chose
the same ones.
I will tell you that each of you chose
a correct one. Oh.
In one. Incorrect one.
Marrakesh and Timbuktu, not along
the Silk Road, but Almaty and
Tashkent are, which you each
chose one of those.
So no points.
We are...
I haven't been on this Silk Road in a long time.
Yeah. Scott, the only person
on the board with points right now. Three points
for Scott. So, Brian, this is your
final questions, your last chance.
to try and take the prize.
Here we go.
Last one, peanut products invent, sorry, peanut products, products,
invented by George Washington Carver.
All right.
So, product.
There, let's see here.
A very famous peanut products.
Peanut products.
Your choices are peanut silk underwear, peanut lipstick,
peanut explosives, peanut laxatives, peanut lachotatives,
peanut roof shingles, and peanut asparagus.
Erigus substitute.
Oh, my lord.
All right.
I'm going to choose two that seem appropriate for the era,
because I don't know about the rest of this.
That's hard, dude.
That's a hard one.
All right.
Both of you locked in.
Yeah.
Scott with peanut laxatives and peanut explosives.
Both of those are correct, giving you three more points.
But did Brian manage to make a showing?
No.
Brian shows peanut lipstick and peanut roof shingles, neither of which are inventions by George Washington Carver.
Blowout today, which we have a things, right?
Yeah, they're, well, I mean, no.
I don't think you can get a peanut roof shingle, I'm guessing.
Maybe.
Yeah, I don't think, I mean, I don't know if peanut lipstick is an extra.
Yeah, Jimmy Carter, I'll like call up, I'd like call it ex-president, please.
Yeah, he's only 98.
My wife's fine.
So the reason I chose laxatives and explosives is it sounds like eraspecific.
I almost chose asparagus because that just sounds like an old-timey bad idea.
Yeah, really, if you ever see one of these with just a really far-out weird answer,
like peanut asparagus substitute, you should usually choose it because it's probably an answer.
So I don't know what a peanut asparagus substitute, if he shaped it, like basically took peanut butter.
and shaped it in the form of asparagus or something?
I don't know.
Well, that's what I would think,
because maybe it has some similar qualities or something.
That's what I understand about the peanut laxative.
I chose it, but I'm like, yeah,
you can't take credit for what was probably already there.
You know, they probably have a certain laxative.
It pretty much already does it, yeah.
Yeah.
So I just looked at peanuts.
I can't find anything that's peanut asparagus,
other than people making asparagus and using peanut and peanut oil.
to like enhance the flavor or make a part of a dish.
But I can't think, I can't find anything where they replaced it.
So this must not a stuck.
It must have been like a, you know, a weird idea then and it, and it didn't hold on.
Well, if you go to the Tuskegee University, this is an amazing page, tuskegee.
You know, list of products made from peanut by a, the peanut by Dr. George Washington Carver.
It is a massive list of things, you know, lipstick may not have been on there, but hand lotion,
face lotion, vanishing cream, face bleach and tan
remover, baby massage cream, shampoo,
like just about every other cosmetic you can think of.
He's got to be, he would be terrible at parties.
Let me tell you what you can do with the peanut.
Yeah. Right, exactly.
The commercial, you know where the guy talks about everything you can make with a tree
and the grape nuts, old grape nuts commercial.
This would have been a 45-minute commercial with George Washington,
however talking about.
Mock oysters you can make with peanuts.
Let me tell you about the magic of peanuts.
Mock oysters. I don't know. I might try as mock oysters. I don't like oysters. So maybe I'd like to
sweet pickle. How do you make sweet pickle from peanuts? I don't know. George Washington. All I knew
about George Washington Carver was the skit on S&L with Medi Murphy, where he played George Washington Carver and was screaming about peanut stuff. I don't know if you guys remember that.
I forgot about that one. Yeah, I still love that. Look that one up. It was really funny. Anyway, well, there you go.
Hey, Dunaway, the good news is we have winners. Hey, Brian, so our winner is who here, who won?
the gen the gen is going to get a copy of a gauntlet slayer edition listen
you've had a whirlwind trip on the road for like eight of the last 12 days or something so
copy some slack a copy of a gauntlet slayer edition and gauntlet lilith the necromancer
and then chad and mantica is getting desperadoes three yeah chad are going out now
Chad secretly won the best prize.
He just doesn't know it yet.
Don't say that. Don't say that to Jed.
Look, I love the Jen and she'll like her games.
I'm just, you know, got to be up front of it.
So you're saying, which one got the Slayer edition?
The Jen.
Was it the seasons in the abyss?
Okay. Yeah. That's perfect.
Yeah.
No.
What?
I don't get it.
No, it was Gontleth is what she won.
Yeah, she won't Gantliff.
Whatever.
My Slayer.
fans are being slayed right now.
Yeah, all your Slayer fan.
Oh, Slayer, the band, I get it now.
Congratulations.
All right, so there's your Scott Fletcher.
Congratulations for both of you, because I think you're both winners today.
Thanks for playing, and we look forward to having your names on here.
Again, hey, Dunaway, tomorrow we're going to play a little podcast game called Play Retro,
where we play old video games.
And tomorrow, we are tackling Zelda, the Legend of Zelda and the Legend of Zelda 2.
The original NES titles are getting the treatment tomorrow.
So we are diving straight in the link.
One was good and one was poo.
I disagree about what you would be wrong.
I think you're going to be wrong.
But we're going to talk all about it.
It's origins, what it led to, why it's such a significant series and why, you know, the world, you know, if there's two characters people know in the world the most in gaming, it's Mario and it's Link.
I mean, Link is in a very nice little second place.
Well, we'll talk about why.
And they were being developed, they were being developed practically the same time.
and we're essentially pitted against each other to go in two different directions.
That's right.
Interesting story behind those two games.
Indeed.
If that sounds interesting to you, check out the Play Retro podcast wherever you get your shows
or catch us live tomorrow at frogpans.tv at 3.30 Mountain Time right here.
Hey, he done away.
Kiss our butts.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That was quick about it, too.
He's out of here.
Speaking about it here, we're going to take a break.
When we come back, Stephen Schleiker will be joining us.
We'll hit some of the.
the big notes of the D-23 reveals and announcements.
You know it's big when Kevin Figi,
Feige,
whatever his name is,
shows up with a hat.
And if he's got a hat on,
yeah,
shit's going to be back to go down.
He could have been wearing two hats and it would have made sense.
Yeah,
no kidding.
It was a lot.
So that'll all happen shortly.
Before that,
though,
a musical break from Brian Ibitt here.
Yeah,
let's go to Berlin to a band by the name of Kerala Dust.
These guys actually were formed in London
in 2016 but they grew up in berlin on the sounds of can the velvet underground tom waits um i absolutely
hear some craft work in this this is some great kind of a 80s electronica um this is uh the debut
track on their new label played again sam um they describe it as uh the song is about a couple in a tempestuous
kind of love affair driving on an old german motorway somewhere in the outskirts of berlin where we
live. During the pandemic, we would just get in a car and drive around the Old East and find all
these ruined buildings and walk through them. It's this mix of nostalgia for the past, coupled with
a melancholy for the lengths that we would go to to feel anything at all. I just think it's a damn
good song. Here's the song Pulse 6 by Corolla Dust.
I used to hell.
I'd like to how
I'd like to how
I'd like to how
to the sound
I used to want somebody to love
I used to want somebody to love.
We used to shaking the dark and cut the flame.
I used to shift my shape to feel something.
I used to help.
I'd like to separate us from then
Like I could end where you begin
We would cut it in half and break it again
I used to shift my shape to feel something
I'd like to help
I'd like to help
to the ways of your arms
like you could cover in the state of the lungs
I made you know
I made a turn off the light
and cut the flames
I used to shift my shape
to feel some things
I'd like to hell.
Is any of those making sense to you?
I'd love to leave in winter.
I used to carry in the ways of the drum.
I'd love to leave in winter.
The clock keeps ticking and the car won't come.
I'd love to leave in winter.
I used to carry in the ways
I'd like to help
I'd love to lean in winter
The clock keeps ticking and the calm
Won't come
I used to help
I used to help
I'd like to leave the winter, I'd love to leave in winter, I used to carry no way to the drum.
I'd love to leave in winter, the clock keeps sticking the car when we're coming.
I'd love to leave in winter.
I used to how.
I'd love to leave in winter.
I'd love to leave in winter.
We'd like to how.
We have a nice looking portable computer here made by Dulch and it's got a 386 processor, four slots.
It's got a 120 megabyte hard drive, 16 megza-ram.
But what makes this Dulch portable special is, da-dam.
Color VGA display.
Look at those colors.
Over 24,000 colors, 640 by 480 resolution.
You don't see that on any portable computers.
Nothing like shedding your bike shorts twice at camp.
Nothing like it.
The Morning Stream.
Get your ass to Mars.
So fun note about that girl, she started doing requests.
Uh-huh.
And that was one of them.
And she doesn't seem to have any rules about what she'll say.
No.
And there are two or three of them that got deleted by TikTok killed them because something nasty.
So I never heard them.
Shitting your bike charts.
Nothing like it.
And usually it's like some fake name like Mike Hunt and things like that.
Sure.
But not in this case.
Anyway, hey, Brian, remind me who that was so I can find that.
You know, I'll tell you, that's the band Karala Dust, K-E-R-A-L-A, Dust.
You can spell Dust.
The brand new single is called Pulse 6.
That's a V-I instead of the number 6.
With all that stuff, you'll be able to find it yourself.
Nice.
Go check it out.
Yeah.
Sorry, breaking news.
This is interesting.
What's that?
Blue Origin Rocket.
That's the Bezos Rockets, right?
Sure.
Yep, the Bezos penis.
It still does.
Big old freaking tip on that thing.
malfunctioning trigger shoot
oh no
triggering a dramatic but successful abort
for an unpilited space
oh it was unpilited so yeah
whew true we don't want
because I was starting to make jokes
and uh yeah
what if what if this guy was on there
oh jesus he would have seen some stuff
had he been up on that that flight you know why
why they had to abort that mission they did not use enough
boner X in there in their
launch fuel
bonner X
Boner X.
Nothing like a good boner X.
Oh, my lord.
All right.
Stephen Schleiker, being very patient today.
We're going to add him in here and have some fun with our old pal, Stephen.
We're going to play his little theme here.
Stephen Schlecker.
Stephen Schleiker.
Hey, look who it is.
It's our old pal, Stephen Schleiker with his finger on the pulse of popular culture,
comics, TV, movies, and more.
And he does that all at major spoilers.com.
Stephen, welcome back to the show.
Hello, Scott.
Hello, Brian.
Hello.
Hey, man.
So, uh, Ryan, you had a, you had a time.
It was a whirlwind.
I did have a time.
I had a good time.
Uh, very, uh, like running left, you know, running here and there, left and right, up and down, all over the place.
And I'm just glad to be done running.
Was it, uh, did we didn't ask, right?
I didn't ask, Tristan go with you?
Was that the deal?
No, it was just me and Tina.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I didn't know Tina went.
Cool.
Yeah, Tina went.
She dressed up, uh, she did like a very subtle mini mouse, uh, outfit.
I'll have to post a link to, uh,
to where people can see it. She just looked adorable.
Nice. I want to see this.
Not in a creepy way, Tina, I promise.
Stephen, it's good to have you here.
There's probably stuff went down that you went, ooh, cool, or, ew, gross, or something.
I don't know.
What was your big takeaway from the event as far as announcements and stuff?
Here's the thing. I didn't pay attention to a single thing.
Well, there's good news for major spoilers fans.
We don't know what happened.
No, my son, his high school soccer team, had a tournament.
to go to. They won, by the way.
And so I was busy with that
and some other things that I can tell you another time,
but not right now. Oh, not on the air, I see.
Wow. Well, I mean,
your opening a bit that you played at the top of the hour
pretty much summed up my weekend.
Oh, which one, this one?
Hello, it's me again.
No, no. You were that guy? Oh, man.
I'm sorry.
Oh, geez. I feel bad, but not this one.
By the way, send me that because I want to send it to my wife.
I totally can do that, yeah.
I'll drag it out right now.
All right.
Well, I'm glad you're, you know, well enough here and doing okay.
That's the important thing.
We're going to talk about some of these things that happened at the D-theory event.
And I don't know, Brian, did you, like of all the announcements, did anything surprise you?
Some of this we knew was coming.
The only, yeah, the only thing that surprised me when I was talking with Ashley and Jason, the night before the Marvel panel, we kind of had a list of like, all right, well, we're probably going to get an announcement.
casting announcement for the Fantastic
Four movie. We're probably going to get
this. We'll probably get a trailer for this
other thing.
The two surprises
for me, the only two surprises for me,
were Thunderbolts.
I wasn't expecting Thunderbolts to get announced.
For the world who doesn't know,
this is like Suicide Squad sort of
Marvel version.
Kind of like Suicide Squad. Yeah.
The Thunderbolts comic
was more like
um super villains that you didn't know who were posing as these new superheroes and um so it's like
you know the the beetle uh old spider man villain the beetle was this one character and and um you know
all these different superheroes these guys it's a lot closer to the suicide squad right it's um
Yelina Bolova
Black Widow
Blonde Blonde Black Widow
Red Guardian
Taskmaster
all three of those characters
from the Black Widow movie
Sebastian Stainan
Yeah right winter soldier
Echo no not Echo
Ghost from a movie that Scott
still hasn't watched
called Ant Man and the Wasp
Oh I almost watched that this week day
Wyatt Russell and Louise Dreyfus
Oh yeah Wyatt Russell
What's he doing then he's the new Captain America
was that same character?
The U.S. agent, yeah.
Oh, okay.
So, and what ought to be really interesting is the fact that in Captain America and Winter Soldier, the TV show, or Falcon Winter Soldier, they were adversaries, winter soldier and U.S. agent by the end of that thing.
So having them on the same team should be a really interesting dynamic.
It would be an uncomfortable alliance while they have to do.
It should.
But it's an interesting, like the characters they decided to pick for this were kind of a surprise.
Well, I mean, they kind of were setting a lot of that up, though, in some of the other shows and movies that we've seen.
So I don't think this lineup isn't a complete surprise as to what they're going because every single one of these characters has either a chip on their shoulder or has been burned by somebody.
and so this is they see as their quote unquote redemption arc and then hopefully by the end of it they're going to realize oh no we are the we're the bad guys we're the baddies and um and hopefully turn some things around i thought taskmaster got i mean no spoiler i guess i can't help but spoil this i thought the task master died in uh no she she walked away at the end um did she don't remember that at all yeah uh black widow uh quote unquote saved her and um
and she she got away you know what's exciting is uh the the rise of florence pew as a star
in hollywood is clear to me on this uh poster image because they got her right out front man
look at her yeah i mean she's kind of like the uh the harley quinn of this
you know if there is a suicide squad parallel not in character but in in prominence
she's kind of the harley harley which is just fine she stole that movie so more david harbour and
Florence Pugh in everything. I agree.
Well, this is cool. So this is
when next year?
When is this? 2024, sorry.
That's a ways off.
The other surprise for me
was Werewolf by Night, a Halloween
special
Wheel Wolf by Night. All Black and White looks like a
creepy 60s
or 50s horror.
B movie.
But you get, we get our first
Elsa Bloodstone, which will be really cool.
But as my uncle, who is a huge Werewolf by Night fan from the comics points out, this doesn't look like it's got anything to do with any Werewolf by Night comic ever, except for Elsa Bloodstone.
I mean, it's a Halloween special, so you know they're having fun with it.
And the fact that the way that they've set it up is just like, okay, we're just going to, we're going to make this as silly as we can and have some fun for the holiday season.
This is this year, right, in October.
It streams in less than a month.
Weird, okay.
There's a lot of stuff coming out, well, you know, various things, not just necessarily
Marvel, but things that are coming up like the 21st, the 26th, the like boom, boom, boom,
right after one right after another on Disney Plus.
Yeah, yeah.
So September, October, going to be busy for Disney fans.
So they showed the, this trailer, the one trailer I did see or one of the trailers I saw was
the Secret Invasion trailer.
And for whatever reason in my head, I had that as a film, but that's a series.
series. Okay. And are we we reasonably excited about that? Seems like it'd be cool. I think so. I think it'll be interesting because I mean, I think that's going to set up a lot of what's going on for phase five and phase six, at least for the big story arc because we saw in spoiler alert for people who haven't seen it. We saw Bruce going off into space and a spaceship in Shee Hulk. We've seen Fury already on a spaceship previously and some other things that are going on with possibly the Cree Scroll War. So I think that this could be.
be very interesting to see how this plays out. And I just like the super subversive, you know,
not quite three days of the Condor, but don't trust anybody kind of horror that goes on in this
story. And so I'm very excited about that. Also, it'll be nice to have a Marvel series that
looks like it, it's not going to be a joke a minute. You know, like I'm not complaining about
Miss Marvel or She Hulk or the ones we've gotten recently.
but this one looks like it's going to have a much darker tone,
which it needs, so I'm excited about that.
Did you have any ability while there to look and see what that Marvel AR game
from the Pokemon Go people is supposed to be about?
No, there was no other announcement except for the fact that they're working on that.
It is not what I thought the million dollar idea was,
which is, you know, you're a reporter for the Daily Bugle
and you're using AR to take pictures of Spider-Man and other various heroes
to quote unquote catch them like Pokemon.
Yeah.
That's what I wanted to.
And you said that that day.
It was like, oh, yeah, no brainer.
That's what they're making, of course.
And that's not this, I guess.
It doesn't look like that.
It's, um, it looks like it's going to be, you're still catching superheroes or super villains,
but you're going to have powers.
So instead of pokey balls, you're probably going to have, uh, fire,
the ability to shoot fire or the ability to shoot water or laser rays or something like that.
Who knows?
Man.
Again, spoiler alert for the most recent episode of She-Hulk, they should have just turned that
into a sling ring thing and just done the whole thing, the whole longest capturing demons
and throwing them into other dimensions.
That would be great too, yeah.
And with just during Madison, it's not where you think.
It's like a high in two ends, but not where you think.
Interesting.
So one of the things I got excited about on the Marvel front was that Amy Henig, famous for her work
on the Uncharted series and her work with
Naughty Dog in general. She's considered
one of the best writers
and game designers in gaming history.
Anyway, she's
working on a Black Panther Captain America
team up game. Yeah, World War
2 era with,
so it's not Tachala. It's
the, it's Tachala's great-grandfather
or grandfather.
And I can't tell who this other
soldier in the thing is.
Is it supposed to be Bucky? I don't know who that's supposed to be.
No, no, there, the two other
characters are not um they're new they're new yeah introduced for the game but i'm down with that
man what a great what a great looking um and fun era to to kind of oh heck yeah dude and she is she is
renown for her work like there's nothing there's nothing about this to not be excited about
it's a ways off we're not gonna i don't even think they gave us a year for this but they're working on
it um very excited about that i i uh i have i
I was really interested that they showed some footage from the Marvel's upcoming movie because basically they explained by kind of re-showing it.
Again, spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen Ms. Marvel, the whole in credit sequence at the end of that series, they basically said, well, here's what's going on.
She didn't turn into Ms. Marvel.
You know, they're doing some other stuff and that will be kind of the cornerstone of that movie with Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, and Monica Rambo all teaming up for that.
for that movie. So that'll be good. The one thing that I was surprised that we didn't get anything about was Fantastic Four. That was the one thing we danced around. Now, we do know that, um, uh, the guy who did, um, uh, Wondavision or Wanda Vision, Matt Shackman is going to be directing Fantastic Four, but they didn't give us anything on who's the actors or anything like that. So that was the big surprise. Sorry, what was Shackman known for? What was the Wondavision? Wandavision. Yeah. Interesting. The, uh, apparently, uh, apparently.
outside the panel.
So when you went into the doors and to
Hall H, there were signs
all over saying, we will
not be making Fantastic Four announcements.
Just to chill everybody out.
Yeah, I could see that.
They did no X-Men announcements other than I know there's the
That was another one that they didn't talk about too.
And again, that may be too far down the road.
I mean, there's still a whole block
of stuff that they announced at,
or didn't announce at
San Diego Comic-Con that they're like,
here's all these things that are coming. We're not going to announce what they are. We just have
these things slotted for the future. And everybody thought that, oh, they're going to talk about that at
D23. And they didn't mention any of them at D23, which to me makes me wonder, and maybe you guys can
weigh in on this too. We're still seeing a lot of slowdown from pandemic as far as movies getting
into theaters and release dates and having to push things back for reshoots and whatnot. I'm wondering if
we're not seeing them not making announcements because they don't want to pull what Warner Brothers has
head pulled by pushing two of their movies back by almost a whole other year or canceling one
outright sure yeah so if they're just quiet about it then they don't have to they don't have
to worry about it yeah that's interesting i i think you're right i think that and so a lot of people
there's a lot of chatter even in our chat room today but i saw this online a lot people like it's
kind of a disappointing d23 you know they didn't do this they didn't do that and in my mind
is it their first live one oh i didn't know that they didn't know this is the first uh the first one back
since the pandemic or I'm sorry
pandemic that's still going on since the
height of the pandemic yeah but I would
I would remind people
like it may feel a little less
like you're like oh it wasn't what I wanted because
I didn't get you know fantastic
foreign news or whatever it's still
insane how much stuff's going on
for sure look we also got you know
we got the cast of Wakanda forever we got
to get another look at
at Namor
which is really cool
Disney's plane I I know not
person. They were making
a huge deal on that on social media. I was
just like, why? It's a... I know. It's just a
plane. I mean, it's cool, but it's
like, oh, can I go smell the seat?
Yeah, smell that seat. What is the point of that?
The whole thing.
No, I'm bummed. I'm bummed
I didn't go to the archives because apparently they
had the computer from Lost, which
is like, oh, I wish I could see that.
But, no, but we also
got Captain America New World Order.
We know that Anthony
Mackey, it's going to be
Tim Blake Nelson, who was the leader.
that we saw in shadow getting his his giant noggin well he was in so so wait that's the character
from the 08 Hulk then the 08 Hulk yes weird okay cool I loved him back Nelson so he had me at
that but that's interesting yeah at least it wasn't it wasn't from the Eric Banna Hulk at least right
right right right right if we don't get the leader making some comment about wow you look you look
different than last time
I saw you. They did
they did talk Daredevil a little bit
with Charlie Cox and Vincent
DeBronryo returning. Born again. Yeah.
Yeah, based on the Frank Miller run. They did
say that this was not going to be
they said it's not connected to the Netflix
series, but I don't know how you can say that.
Maybe we'll find out because spoiler alert for Shee Hulk
Daredevil coming up in a future episode.
Yeah, that was in the trailer folks.
Not a not a big spoiler.
Yeah. You just see the side of his head
and his head rotating and his horns
and you're like, oh shit, it's Charlie Cox, let's do this.
I love those guys.
I'm making people mad in the trash.
I know, you're really freaking people.
Like, people whose fingers hovering over the mute button, basically is what they're.
Yeah, none of these have been spoilers.
By the way, I was just looking up this Matt, not fraction,
Jackman guy, who's directing the Fantastic Four film.
This guy's got some cred, but it's almost entirely television.
He, the Wandivision, of course, but a bunch of Game of Thrones episodes,
a bunch of The Great, remember that?
That's an awesome show, the great.
uh always sunny philadelphia he did um american gothic the good wife uh revenge psych like the
guy's been working forever house and that tells you a lot of things though right so he's done comedy right
he's got some comedy in there yeah so you know that there's going to be maybe a lighter tone for
fantastic four and if he's done game of thrones he knows how to do big epic storytelling yeah so that should
be you know that should i mean i'm not saying it's going to be guardians of the galaxy or anything
like that but to me it starts to trigger oh this is kind of a big guardians of the galaxy kind of thing
going on yeah he started out as a kid actor by the way it was in the facts of life was his first
job it ended up in highway to heaven different strokes night court growing pains i mean he's basically
a gen x kid who grew up as a child actor and then in 1990 he said i want to direct and now he's
just doing kick-ass shit i think that's great so leon howard of our time everybody that's who's
directed fantastic for anything else jump out i know they uh we got a new
firmer release date for that new marvel uh excomish game uh there's the tron identity
game coming night suns yeah that tron identity so this is interesting that that's mike
bithel who's famous for a game called thomas was alone it's an amazing little indie title years
and years ago now um but if you've never played thomas was alone it was basically a bunch of
Literally, like squares, rectangles, and balls.
There was nothing fancy about the graphics in that game.
They were meant to be these very simple, almost Atari 2,600-looking objects.
And Thomas is a rectangle.
And Thomas has to work with these other shapes to figure out how to traverse their world.
And it sounds dumb, but I am telling you it had one of the greatest narratives of video games of all time.
One of the greatest narratives in any game ever made.
And to hear that he's doing a visual novel style treatment of Tron is so exciting to me.
I can barely contain myself.
Cannot wait for Tron identity.
It looks awesome.
They showed off some echo footage.
They talked Loki season two with Owen Wilson and Tom Hittleston was there.
I think the other thing for me that I was excited about because I thought Brian was going to talk all the Marvel stuff at the top of the hour.
Indiana Jones 5.
Oh, right.
With Phoebe Waller Bridge.
Oh, so excited about that.
Here's the thing that from everything that I've read, he did not come out on stage, but behind the stage.
And you can see the Twitter feed on this.
Kay Kwe Kwan, who played short round, was backstage and he and Harrison Ford had a picture together.
And Harrison Ford was just like smiling like, you know, it's the greatest thing that he's ever seen.
You got to see this, Brian.
They're not saying he's in the movie, but they're also, why would he be there behind the scenes if he wasn't doing anything else at D23?
right yeah that's odd for sure ford did confirm he goes this is the last indiana jones movie for me
he's 80 years old which is incredible that uh you know with all the the stun acting that he has
done uh that he's still up and ready to uh who knows what he's going to do in this movie climb
into another refrigerator and and get i hope not i hope not so the director the director here is
a dude what made um mangold um the movie logan right there you go uh
among other great movies and he's i don't know i got a lot of faith in this guy i feel like this
is maybe a little bit of redemption in fact harrison ford said oh where's the quote
i think he said something like this is one of the great ones or something yeah he said this is
one of the great ones and i think he was referring to co-star uh in that oh maybe i thought he was
i was hoping he was talking about the movie maybe well i hope that he's talking about that
the director and all that stuff i mean if you got the director of logan in this doing this then
And, you know, that'll tell you, again, I think they, they, when you know a director and you know what their capabilities are, you know what area they like to work with, that kind of gives you an indication of what direction that they want to shape a story.
So if Logan was all about the end of the X-Men and what it is to be old and what it is to look back on your life and the mistakes that you made in your life, and if you have short round who's showing up backstage, it would not surprise me if this is a Indiana Jones coming to grips.
with the fact that he is actually stealing relics
instead of keeping them where they belong.
In a museum, dad, exactly.
They belong in a museum.
Get off my plane.
I'm excited. I'm excited.
I realize there's a lot to forgive
when it comes to Crystal Skull.
It's amazing to me that
before, during, during, and after Crystal Skull,
Spielberg has made some of his greatest films.
Like the guy has been nonstop quality,
but that one moment, he made a turd.
And I don't know if I should blame him or if I should blame.
I don't know if I should blame him or Lucas.
I don't know.
But all I'm saying is this, given it to an director is very capable.
Mangold makes great movies.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's a real chance for something awesome here and a way to close it out in a really meaningful way.
So I have hope.
I have hope.
You know, it's been what?
10, 15 years since Crystal Skull came out.
I have not watched it since it hit theater.
Maybe time and distance make it a better movie.
Maybe.
I doubt it, though.
It's so bad.
I doubt it.
But you might be right.
No.
You might be right.
If we watch it for film sack,
it's still bad.
Yeah.
Oh yeah,
we did do that,
didn't we?
I blocked that out of my mind.
It's bad.
It's still bad.
Yeah,
don't watch it.
Everybody's really bad.
But five,
look,
fingers crossed.
Let's see how we do.
And the fact that he was backstage
makes me hopeful
that maybe he even makes an appearance
because that guy's having a moment
right now.
So let's do it.
All right.
I think that's it.
Yeah.
Cover everything?
I think so.
Not everything.
I mean,
That's a huge event.
I don't know if you guys saw the short clip from Little Mermaid Live Action Adaptation.
I did, yeah.
I kind of got a little shivers going on that.
It looks fine.
It looks fine.
I mean, whatever.
These live action remakes are weird to me, but I understand that people, they make money.
And, you know, I like the Lion King one.
A lot of people hated it, but I liked it.
Yeah, they've got Mufasa is coming as well.
Oh, right.
Yeah, another whole other thing.
So I'm actually just kind of okay with those things.
I can take them or leave them.
A lot of people feel but heard about their childhood being poked like this, but I don't care.
I don't know.
I mean, it's a second generation.
I think the only weird thing about having, you know, especially the trifecta of Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin, all being done as live action is that those three movies for Disney heads, that was the rebirth of Disney when the Little Mermaid was release.
Because before that, it was, hey, we think we're going to sell the parks off to whoever wants to buy the parks.
Hey, we want to sell the animation department off to whoever.
wants to buy the animation.
But, you know, through Roy Disney and through Eisner, they came in and they rebuilt
that and they said, well, we're going to start doing animated movies again and the traditional
Disney style.
And those three, boom, boom, boom, every year you could count on stuff and then Lion King
and everything after that.
But it was, it was a way that the studio was turning itself around by leaning into what made
them great to begin with.
and now I don't know when I see the live action adaptations I love the girl who's playing
Ariel and her voice is so great but I look at these and I'm like well this almost seems like
you're trying to lean into what made you great once more by not leaning into what made you great
to begin with yeah yeah and that's that's that's a problematic but that's kind of true across all
of these right the Moulon thing the you know anytime they do like a live action remake of
something that's considered a beloved classic that you know really put them on the
map for whatever arrow is in you're you're walking on glass a little bit but i i think the blowback
is actually kind of nothing because there are people who really want to see this and you know what
that's great go for it whatever i may not be that i'm in no rush to watch a little mermaid reboot
but um no i don't have i'm not offended by its existence it's funny no neither am i mean if people
want to watch it that's great because there's going to be people they're going to be attracted to
those things and it's going to be the greatest thing in the world for them because for heck scott
even your kids the little mermaid is that was before i was born so you know uh for my kids it's like
why would i want to watch an ancient animated movie yeah they don't yeah they're not into it they
love my kids loved it when they were little but i you know the things that they really glom on to is
the stuff that they were you know as they were growing up what mattered to them were the things
that were coming out then just like just like it did for us like why do we why do we care about back to the
the future so much because we were all like 1516 and it was awesome exactly you know like we
have these things we glom on to and i don't know i don't so so i do have questions about who is
this actually for like is this for a new generation of kids yes is it for the kids that were born in
84 children of the kids who loved the little mermaid i don't i don't think it is it's them to watch
together i guess so i don't think it's for us yeah but whoever it's for good on you good job
they're throwing some goodness i mean that's i mean the same argument you can play that exactly
same argument to the prequels and the most recent Star Wars trilogy.
You know, it's, it's for its generation.
Yeah.
I mean, will she be so dumb that she doesn't know the word feet?
Yeah.
What did they call it?
What was, what's the fork?
The, uh, the, uh, bomb flats or whatever was, Snarf Blatt.
Snarf Blat.
Yeah.
She was real, she did seem a little dumb.
See, he's not going to be there.
So, yeah, can't, you can't watch a live action if Buddy Hackett's not in it.
I also worry there's a generation of really.
creepy old men that used to like that movie because there was a time where her little her boobies are
just covered by shells and her you know what I mean like some of that across my mind there's a little
bit of that out there I'm just saying we live in a weird modern internet I think there's a few
creepers that are you know why it's coming to my mind I don't know so maybe don't worry about me
I guess but you know I'm just saying it's a little bit weird anyway uh well there you have it
uh Stephen it's always Stephen Stephen it's always uh good to have you on and tomorrow night
get to be on the major spoilers podcast. Do you want to do any kind of preview for what's going?
This week, we're going to talk Kaiju Max. So what happens when the giant
Kaiju all get rounded up and thrown onto a prison island? It's an interesting, it's an
interesting book. So we're going to be talking about that. I want to get Scott's take on on that.
Think Oz meets Godzilla King of All Monsters. Oh my gosh, Oz like the prison show Oz?
Yes, yes. Oh, wow. Yes. Sign me up to whatever weirdness this is. I'm in. Go grab that
review copy now, Scott, and start
reading. Awesome. It goes
places. Yeah, I'm going to, this is
my outdoor. We're having amazing
temperatures right now. It's like 70 max
today with like beautiful skies and I'm going to
sit under those guys and read this comic
on my iPad and I'm so excited.
Well, excellent news. That's tomorrow.
And of course, all week, all the time. Check out
major spoilers.com for the latest and greatest
Stephen. It's a great having you on man. We'll talk to you soon.
Stay hydrated. Bye now.
You always got to let him have a
with the hydration, you know?
Can't let that go.
No.
Let me stay hydrated right now.
Yeah, do it.
With my Avengers water bottle.
Oh, very nice.
Is it a good build?
Do you feel like that's going to last?
I always worry with these things.
No.
No.
I mean, it's a...
I'll just say it right now.
This is not one that I feel like I could put in a suitcase or put in a bag with water in it
because it'll definitely drip.
But sitting on my...
desk lighting up uh it looks cool yeah got no complaints about that yeah that that looks rad
yeah i like it i would put that on my desk and look at that and stare at it and drink out of it
be fine absolutely without a doubt without a doubt quick email from a listener this is from scooby dad
oh oh send and receive email here's my email he says dear stetson and bowler all these are
hat references.
Hats, okay.
I like that, especially because Brian is known to wear a Stetson, or excuse me.
I am, but not while I have headphones on, sadly.
You ever wear a bowler?
You ever have one of those?
I don't have a bowler, but I'd be tempted to throw it, like, uh, odd job.
Yeah.
So if I, if I, uh, get a bowler, then it better have a blade as the brim.
Yeah, better have Wesley Snipes all around the front.
That's what I want.
All right.
I really enjoy Brian's lift stories, he says, having done that for a summer before COVID.
uh if i recall there was a setting on the app that if you get a ride like to the airport you can set up or sorry it can set you up with riders that are going uh that are going on i'm sure what that means there shouldn't be a period there going on the direction of home on the direction of home i hope that makes sense thanks for the distraction of fun stub the toe joe scooby dad so is that setting there can yeah there is a setting it's called destination mode and basically it it reduces the number of potential
rides you can get by only saying you only give me rides that get me towards home north and west
or whatever right so frequently if i'm if i'm driving i'll end up in the very far southeast part of
denver almost happens almost every time like the longer i drive it's like there's a it's like that
leg of the table of colorado is shorter than the other three legs and everything kind of eventually rolls
down to that corner.
That makes sense.
You got a wobbly table.
That's what happens.
The wobbly table.
But it, so when I'm ready to finish lifting,
I just basically put on destination mode towards home and start driving towards home.
And I might get two or three rides along the way.
I might not.
It's a crapshoot.
Okay.
So you never know.
Let me ask you this because it came up Thursday.
I think you probably heard it if you heard the show.
This idea of loaner vehicles came up.
I heard the first part.
Yeah.
I listened to the show until we had to go to the airport, or walk into the airport.
Oh, gotcha.
I did not hear about loaner vehicles, but they do rent.
If you want to drive Lyft and you don't have a car or you don't want to use or can't use your own car, then they will rent you, I think Kia Nero is the current model.
They will rent you a Kia Nero and take your rental payment out of what you make.
So you kind of have to drive even more to make up for the car.
car they're renting.
Is it a percentage of each of each day's cut or whatever?
Right.
Or it's a flat fee per month that once you, once you've covered that flat fee, then everything
else you make that month is your pay.
All right.
So it's a rental.
So, Chap, if you were all there Thursday, that is kind of what we landed on.
We were trying to figure out the Kia thing in, or not Kia.
Sorry.
Oh, Seattle was full of Priuses.
Toyota Priuses.
Yeah.
And we think there's some thinking that that's just the,
That happens to be the car up there that is the du jour for what you're renting.
So interesting.
Okay.
Well, that's cool.
I didn't realize that.
So if you're somebody who's never had a car or don't have a car, but you really want to be a lift driver, they have a plan.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
But if you've never had a car, then they probably won't do it because you probably don't know how to drive.
Well, that's true.
You'd need some sort of driver's license, I suppose.
You need a little experience.
Yeah.
Even if you have a driver's license, maybe you'd want to drive a little bit more before you make your first car on Lyft.
I don't know how the guy are.
Seattle guy going back to the airport.
I don't know how he had one. That dude did not
know how to drive well. He was horrible.
Horrible.
He was the one that was like
just like lurching
up going back, lurching up and cutting
over without using his lights and all that stuff.
He was not a, not well trained.
That's
it for the show, everybody. I would like to thank some patrons
who just joined this show as a patron.
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Check that name out, Brian.
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Stirk.
It's like another Iron Man villain.
Johan Stirk.
Or what Stan Lee would
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It's perfect.
Or it's the non-union equivalent
of Tony Stark.
We've got to use Johan Stirk.
Carver Tate and Mindy Allen.
Isn't Mindy Allen a famous name?
I mean, they'd probably share it,
but isn't there a famous Mindy Allen
or am I thinking of something else?
Mindy Allen.
It sounds like one, right?
Yeah, like a famous singer or like an actor.
This one's got Mindy Allen.
I'll watch that.
Debbie Allen.
What else?
Yeah, Mindy Allen.
It's bugging me.
If you don't think of Mindy Cone.
Yeah.
Or Mindy or no, who's the Allen that sings her brother, Lily Allen?
Lily Allen.
Yeah.
Maybe that's who I'm thinking of.
Mindy, Lily.
Lily.
Maybe, yeah.
It's a good name, though.
Like, it's a name that sounds like you've heard it before.
So good for you.
Mindy. Yeah, good job, Mindy. And we're glad to have you here as part of our Patreon. If you guys
have not checked it out, yeah, go check it out. Patreon.com slash TMS is the
place to go and do. Okay. I have a question about Mindy's. Do it. Is Mindy short for
something? Oh. Because, you know, like Bobby is Robert and Jimmy is James and stuff like
that is, you know, Kathy's or Catharines, usually. What is Mindy short for?
Short. Let's find out. Mindiana. We named the dog.
Mindiana. Okay, here it is.
Yeah.
English origin short term of Melinda. There you go.
Melinda. Okay.
So Mindy is short for Melinda. Did not know that.
There we go. Learn something new every day. Melinda.
Variants are Minda, Mindy spelled different ways, and Mindy spelled the third way.
Also, some people go by Lindy for some reason.
And why, but it's not where you think.
Wouldn't that be Linda? Oh, and the name is way down in popularity.
I wonder if you met Belinda Carlisle.
I know it's a B.
But could you call her Bindy?
Or Bindy?
I like Balindy.
Bindy, Carlyle.
My name is Belindi.
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That will do it for today's show.
But in order to call it a show, we've got to play a song on our way out.
And I think Brian is prepared to do that.
So Brian give it to us.
Two of our favorite people are celebrating a wedding anniversary.
or celebrate it yesterday.
Sir's Joust and Tempest.
Aw, that's a good choice there.
September 11th was our 40th wedding anniversary.
It doesn't seem like it's been that long,
but it's been one heck of a ride.
Lots of twists and turns in that time,
but we've made it this far.
Thank you, Robin.
This is Jim Jensen and Robin.
For sharing your life's journey with me.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
Brian, could you play one of the following covers?
And he gave me three choices.
And listen, this is a little slower soul song,
cover. So it's a little bit different than what we normally play. But
Scott and I would both do anything for Jim and Robin Jensen. We love them. They're
amazing. Absolutely. They tell me to play four minutes of dead air. I play four minutes
of dead air and call it. What was that? What's the
shoot? Well, the title of the song is the amount of time.
Oh, is that real? I didn't know anyone did that. That's crazy.
Yeah, there's a, there's a class, I mean, it's a piece of music called, what, three minutes, 14 seconds or something, and it's basically three minutes of, yeah, Philip Glass, three minutes and 14 seconds of silence.
Nice.
I know I'm getting the time wrong, because that's pie.
Anyway, Jim wanted to hear either cover of breads make it with you, or heat waves always and forever, or Bobby Goshes a little bit more.
We're going with the middle one, heat waves, always and forever, covered by Stan Taylor and Raquel Rodriguez.
is I picked up this whole EP, which is called Sunday's Best, because they do a cover of
Ooh, Baby, Baby by Frankie, or, no, Smokey Robinson, The Miracles.
La, la, la, la, means I love you, natural high, be thankful for what you got, some great soul stuff.
So it's really, really cool.
Anyway, Stan Taylor and Raquel Rodriguez, and their cover of Always and Forever.
All right, that'll do it for us.
Thank you all for being here.
We'll be back tomorrow with another.
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Always in forever
Each moment with you
It's just like a dream to me
That somehow came true
And I know tomorrow will still be the same,
because we've got a life of love that won't ever change.
Every day, love me all special way.
Melt all my heart away with a smile.
Take time to tell me you really care,
and we'll share tomorrow together.
I'll always love you forever.
Always forever.
Forever.
There'll always be sunshine
when I look at you.
It's something I can't explain
Just the things that you do
If you get lonely,
call me and take
the second to give to me
the magic you've made
and every day
love me your own special way
away melt all my heart away with the sky take time to tell me you really care and we'll share tomorrow
I'll always love you
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