The Morning Stream - TMS 2361: Moist Meat Prison

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

Can I tap that camel? American Cheese is Neither American nor Cheese. Discuss. I Dont Like Injections in My Peeeeeeeeeeeeeen. Hork It Outta Your Dooda. Brian Ibbott has a very strange AH. American Che...ese taste like Government. Mansplaining boobs. Dammit Kevin! The second weirdest thing we heard today. Hocus Pocus 2...End Times. How many cowboys named Vic do you know? Butt-Scratchin' Drug Company. Our time of the month with Dan. Science with Tickle Me Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Nicely done. I don't like injections in my peen. Hork it out of your doodah. Imbit has a very strange A.H. American cheese tastes like government. Man-splaining boobs. Damn it, Kevin. The second weirdest thing we heard today. Ocus
Starting point is 00:00:39 Pocus 2. End times. How many cowboys named Vic do you know? But scratch and drug company. Our time of the month with Dan. Science with Tickle Me Bobby and more on this episode of the morning stream. Let's free you from that moist, pendulous
Starting point is 00:00:56 meat prison and escape this corporeal plane. I got The morning stream, you're soaking in it. Good morning all, and welcome back to the morning stream. It is Tuesday, October 11th, 2022. I'm Scott, and that's Brian. How is moist pendulous meat prison the second weirdest thing I've heard this morning? You'll have to be a patron to know what the first weirdest thing you've heard this morning is. We're the first weirdest thing, and we heard it ad infinitum is what we heard that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Let's just say Brian's got a strange thing. I don't want to spoil it. Yeah, yeah, find out what that thing is. I wonder what to do. People who got the Patreon feed already heard this. But for those of you don't, this is yet another amazing. amazing reason to sign up is strange you know this is quite possibly the most amazing thing that's ever been said ever right said ever that's what i say said ever anyway hey welcome everybody
Starting point is 00:02:11 it's time for show and we got a lot of things going on in fact i want to start things off speaking of weird things to hear i heard something yesterday while i was on the hunt for additional film choices on the shutter app because i have I have a month of shutter during the holiday there in Halloween. Like take advantage of your month of shutter. If you pay for it, make sure you use it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And it's cheap. I think it's five bucks. But Shutter has a bunch of originals and a bunch of horror movies and stuff that I'm into during the Halloween season. So I figured why not? So I started digging around in there. And I found this one that just hit that everybody's like 90. It's like 91% rotten tomatoes and everyone's saying, oh, you got to see it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Oh, wow. It's this. High praise right there. Yeah, pretty high praise. It's a thing called, um, dead stream and it's a dude who is a former he's a former very popular YouTuber star oh okay well I mean it's all fake it's not really made up but you know yeah of course or not based on anybody real but anyway he's he's been diminished because he pulled some stunts that got him in
Starting point is 00:03:18 trouble the people thought were like cold trillion sensitive or something so it's kind of you know the Logan Paul type stuff sure anyway so this guy to make up for for it. He straps GoPro's all over him. He's got a selfie cam, a frontal looking at his face cam, one on his head and one behind him on a helmet that's seeing things behind him.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And he decides kind of found footage style that his next big thing to bring him out of, you know, bring him back to his full glory as an influencer, he's going to go out to this old haunted shack home thing out in the middle of all places Pace in Utah, which is
Starting point is 00:03:54 not that far from me, about 30 minutes from me. okay and uh i think it's actually filmed out there it could be wrong but anyway he goes out there with all this gear and sets up cameras inside the house the house is legitimately horrible and scary and awful and dilapidated and clearly somebody with like a spray pan cam went in there and did a lot of crack and sprayed walls and you know it's just a mess and he's there in the night he's to show everybody how serious he is he throws his spark plugs out of the car into the woods to say that i'm not going to just run away from this and he by this keeps me from getting back in my car basically yeah and the minute he does that you go well he'll regret that that's a thing he'll regret anyway he gets in the house he does all his things i don't want to tell the whole story here but uh it's a great mix of funny and scary kind of sam ramy vibe going on okay all right i was surprised how how good the mix of humors and how well they understand the internet this isn't just some bull crap they they get it
Starting point is 00:04:53 Okay, I'm streaming kind of thing. No, they get it. They understand how it works. He interacts with a chat room. It's a fake streaming service because they can't use the name Twitch, so they use something else. But it works just like Twitch and the way these comments come in, I feel like these people did their research. Like, they really know they were doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Anyway, it's very good. Recommend it. However, he says something during the movie that I went back and listened to four times and thought of, okay, what's the context of the scene? I don't understand what he's referring to. I don't know what this means. I'm going to play it here. And I know that I'm possibly setting myself up for,
Starting point is 00:05:30 Scott, that's obvious. I've heard it a billion times. I'm okay. I'll take the hit on this if that's true. But I don't know what it is. Brian, here it is. I'm going to play this. What does this mean?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Here we go. This room smells like my A-H. A-H? This room smells like my A-H. Do you know what that is? No. Not off the top of your head? For once I can say,
Starting point is 00:05:51 I mean for once But you can honestly say No, you're right in not understanding what Oh, asshole Oh, is it asshole? Oh. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Now, in context, this makes sense because it didn't I didn't get to tell the chat said it But he has to not He's trying not to say swear words Because the platform he's on Will demonetize him if he swears to him So he does this a lot where he's like This place smells like my AH
Starting point is 00:06:20 or he says shoot instead of, or once he drives, he goes, oh, please don't demonetize or, you know, I heard something like he was trying to justify because it really is haunted. Yeah. I always thought that was, that was one word.
Starting point is 00:06:35 That was one seven-letter word, not two separate words. Well, I think you make a good point. Yeah. It's probably being used wrong. We've said, oh, that guy, such an A. You know, we say that. And instantly we know,
Starting point is 00:06:48 oh, he's saying he's using the letter A to signify the word asshole. Sure, sure. But yeah, it's a weird thing, and people should probably see it if you like found footage-style horror movies. If you hate that sort of thing, this isn't going to fix that for you.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But it treats it all pretty... How do I put this? Like, it's still... You could still argue the best found footage movie is still Blair Witch because it really does... It defined the genre, really.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It did. Plus, it still feels the most. legit like the most fake documentary to me of all of them yeah um you know there are reasons why people thought it was real like oh my gosh must be real and like like there was they they did it didn't help that their their viral campaign was believed by a lot of people as well but anyway since then there've been some good ones but they all kind of have this like uh it's too tempting to film it like a normal movie in this one part right exactly and you have to you have to be able to explain sorry go ahead you have to be able to explain in your movie
Starting point is 00:07:50 why a certain thing is being shown that normally would not have even been caught with found footage, right? It's kind of like the, um, it's the, it's the problem I have with, uh, shows like America's Funniest Home Videos and Fail Army is, okay, so why did you set up a video to record you walking through your house when you slipped on that skateboard and, and drop the eggs? Exactly. Like, yeah, the paranormal activity does that, uh, egregiously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And it has its moments. It's fine. It's just, it's too tempting. I don't blame them. It's tempting. You got to do what you got to do. But this guy gets away with it almost because it's a trick. Because when he goes to this house, he's like, all right, I'm going to put gopros in every room.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So that if there's any noise, this app's going to pick up that sound and switch automatically to that view. So you guys can see what maybe made the sound. And he's talking to the chat room, of course. And it all feels completely plausible that he would have all these cameras set up because he brought the gear with him. And he's up there like, does. Yeah, he's creating content, so it doesn't make sense. This reminds me that I need to watch Spree, which is the dude from Stranger Things with the hair. And people know who I'm talking about, the dude with the hair and Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Sure, he has hair. As a Uber lift driver who goes nuts or something, you know. It's the driver that goes crazy or he gets a bad passion? It's the driver that goes crazy. Like, he fills the car with cameras and, and, films himself kind of going crazy. Did you, would you, do you, you should do this. You should watch it as a lift driver and tell us what you thought.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I should, exactly. Well, this couldn't really happen because this is a thing. Well, I have not heard of that, but I would watch that. I'm in the mood right now for this kind of stuff and it's all good. I'm not, you know, I've been bouncing off a couple of things. It just didn't grab me. This one grabbed me, though, and it's actually funny and has its finger on the pulse of sort of modern day ideas.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You know, if only there was a really good horror movie or thriller about a lower class South Korean family that slowly inserts themselves into the life of an upper class South Korean family. If only there was a... Not really a horror movie, though. Not really a horror movie. No. How do you know? You don't know?
Starting point is 00:10:13 It could be. I can't find it in any of those genres. I look at it and it says, you know, thriller. It's a thriller. It's not a, yeah, it's definitely not a horror movie, but it is a thriller. Thriller's like the cousin that sits at the tiny table of Thanksgiving. It's just not quite the same. But I still want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I still want to see it, you know. Do you, though? I do. It's just every time I'm like, maybe I'll watch that, I'm like, I don't feel like reading. That's usually that hits me. It's like I don't feel like read. And I definitely don't want to watch it in English. You don't want to watch, you know, dubs, dubs on that would suck.
Starting point is 00:10:45 So don't do dubs. I guess I haven't heard if it's dubbed well or not. but it doesn't matter. I'd rather not. Yeah. I did dubs with Heist, what was that, Money Heist, the, I think Italian series that was, that's on Netflix. And that one, from all accounts, before I started watching, I heard was done well. And it was, it was done really well.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah. To the point where I had to go back and listen to interviews with the actual stars from Money Heist to say, wow, they really did find people who sound just like them. You spoke very highly of that series. I still highly recommend it. That's one I think about often and the decisions and the choices made in that show. Like, you know, it's the Game of Thrones. Nobody is impervious to being taken out at any time.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Gotcha. You know, that character you just love, you might not, you know, Don't get too attached. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, speaking of Game of Thrones. Yes. I don't know if anyone else is out there caught up with House of the Dragon or not, but let me just say this. I'm taking my headphones off.
Starting point is 00:12:00 No spoiler. Uh-huh. You've said that before. I have. I promise there's no spoiler to this. I'm just going to say that, you know, that character and Beetlejuice sitting in the waiting room with the shrunken head? I'm taking this off right now. There's nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:12:13 There's no spoilers. There's no spoilers. But do you know the... Wave when I can put it back on. All right. You can put it on now. I'm not going to say anymore. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I'm not going to say anymore. It's not a spoiler of any kind. I'm going to be looking for a shrunken head character in Beatleju or in Game of Thrones. See, if you did, it won't happen. It won't work for you. Or a burnt cigarette guy or a person with a worm face or something like that. As soon as I see somebody that looks like something from Beetlejuice, I'm going to say, oh, this is what I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You know what? Maybe it's just going to be frigging Alec Baldwin. Maybe Alec Baldwin makes an appearance. And I'm like, oh, that's what he's, oh, man, now I know something's going to happen to Alec Baldwin. It's more likely that that would happen than the thing that actually happens. You're going to be surprised by it. You'll get to it and go, oh, this is this what he meant? And you won't do that until episode seven or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, yeah. Listen, I got so excited one of my uncle's favorite. Actually, my uncle's favorite character in the Marvel Universe is one that makes an appearance that, you know, appearance that to him was a surprise in werewolf by night because he didn't see that flash in the trailer that you and I talked about last week that I saw and we went over to their house to watch it the other night and it was impossible like it was the hardest thing for me not to say by the way by the way you know there's a character that you like that you're going to like this oh my god you're so you're so gonna like this yeah so I had to you know it's a
Starting point is 00:13:42 it's a discipline you can't you know it's hard they know that you know yeah you don't need to let them know that you know yeah and in that what brian's talking about that could be a some sort of thing or some sort of man i mean i don't know what it is in any case he's giant size yeah either way either way um all right hey what are you all doing here uh you want to hear an email look at this okay i do let me hear an email all right this and i have a picture to go with this uh awesome i'm gonna stick it in your your discord first so i don't forget to do that before i read it okay here we go it's on its way right next to dwayne the crock johnson oh i want that oh that's interesting so this would be a good yeah let's be good all right all right i mean i want some of that i think i don't want
Starting point is 00:14:25 all of it you might want a bite maybe there's no one a bite but there's a part of it that it's like no that's not a thing that i want but let's uh let's all right here you go send and receive email got an email from dustin who says this is how my grandfather ate Bronschwager. Schweger. Schweger. Schweger. Schweger.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Schweger. Steven Schweger. Right. Yes. Bronshweger. Nailed it. And I follow a funny story too once we're done with this about Bronshweger. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That's perfect. It says, good white bread, miracle whip, and a slice of American cheese. And there is a difference, sorry, there are different companies that make it, and they all taste different consistency and spice, Dustin. So I don't know. He didn't tell us the best brand, but that's the use of it right there, folks. That big old... It's very interesting and not even spreading it, just taking a slice of it. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:16 The Miracle Whip, no problem with it. White bread, sure. But American cheese? Yeah, dude. American cheese is neither American nor cheese. Discuss. Yeah. It really is bad.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's bad cheese. It's never been good. Do people like that cheese? I don't. I hate it. Yeah, no. It's gross. When you can see a reflection in a slice of cheese, you know it's bad.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Bad. It should not, it should not be glossy. Cheese should not be glossy. Your cheese should never shine. It should always be matte finished. Exactly. Exactly. So, so I will do this. I will tell Tina, and Oscar Meyer was the brand that I grew up with, with Braunschweger. Oh, that'd be easy to find. Very easy to find. You can still find it in the store. Is it good? Like, are they a brand I will taste and go, oh, yum. It's the only brand I've ever had, so I don't know another.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I'm sure, I'm sure it's not because I'm sure there are much better brands like actual German brands of Braunschweger that, that probably are far better than Oscar Meyer, you know, Oscar Meyer is not, not, it's not German. No, he's not dude who slices baloney and it's his first name. That's right. Oscar, last name, Meyer. Exactly. It's my assumption. I'm telling Kim right now, can you please. He's got away with B-O-L-G-N-A. Damn straight, he does. I said, can you get me some Bronschweiger next trip to the store?
Starting point is 00:16:44 All right, my wife has now been informed that I would like to try some of this that I've never had in my life. Yeah. Now, how are you going to have it? Are you going to... I'm not putting that cheese on it, but I might, you know... Don't wrap a hot dog with it and stick in the microwave. No.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like, have it in a way where you can enjoy the, uh, enjoy the brunch wager. What would you, what would you do? What would you suggest? I'll take your advice. I would do, I would do something very close. to what this uh the writer's grandfather did which is to get um nice white bread a little mayo a slice of cheddar cheese okay no and uh so we can still go yellow or yellow orange cheese just not american right exactly like an actual cheese nothing that comes with a little plant that that's on a
Starting point is 00:17:31 plastic sheet you know none of that exactly yes yeah i don't want anything i don't need anything individually wrapped. Thank you very much. Yeah. Burgess Diesel makes a point that it's like the best thing for like breakfast sandwiches. You melt it and yes, it has its uses. I get it. Like if I'm going to get a... You know what else also melts? Cheddar cheese.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah, all other cheeses. All other cheeses. All other cheeses. Stinky or otherwise. Like I can't imagine, I can't imagine a defense that would work for why you should even consider American cheese. I tend to agree. I think we're on the same page. here. I don't want to, I don't want to, uh, I don't want American cheese. Look, I'm an American. What is the flavor of American cheese? What is the flavor? Like, what is it, uh, bad, poor, I guess. Um,
Starting point is 00:18:19 I don't, I don't, I don't mean like, you know, I don't mean economically disadvantaged. I mean, government, it tastes like government. It tastes like government. Yeah. Nobody wants anything that tastes like government. Yeah. Even, even, uh, what is it? Ophidian, uh, 807 says best melting cheese for grilled cheese sandwich no you know what also melts really well on the grill cheese sandwich any other cheese yeah hard disagree on that i don't think that's the best grilled cheese not even close dude i mean in a pinch i'll do it it's fine this for me this should be the debate the pineapple on pizza thing shouldn't be a debate because you can put anything on pizza and guess what it's it's you know it's pizza still but uh the american cheese should be the the the great debate
Starting point is 00:19:02 the divider. Yeah, it's the great divider. Would you eat, okay, fine. Would you, would you, would you eat your favorite kind of pizza but with American cheese on it? If I had to, yeah. Like a gun to my head, sure. You'd do it, okay. If I had a choice, no. If I could do mozzarella and like a 75-25-25-mozrella provolone blend, I would take that. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this about Bronschweiger then. Sure. Would I put Bronschweger on a pizza? No, no. Cold only is a heated or cooked or fried version of this. You could do it either way. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Yeah, this is also, you know, firming the bread up by toasting it with Bronschweiger, make your sandwich, put your cheddar cheese or whatever cheese you want with there. And then put in the toaster out and let the outside of the bread toast.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Although everyone in the chat room is saying cold only. I guess you only want to do cold Bronschweiger. Really? That's interesting. Well, Rainbow Bright says acrylic it. This is an interesting thing. This is where it's like spam, kind of. Yeah, kind of. All right. You know, best way to prepare Bronsweger.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Oh, somebody makes a potato hash recipe with Bronshweiger. Oh, now we're talking. Oh, man. I already know that's good. I don't care what meat's in there, dude. I love a good hash. God, food.com. Seriously, food.com.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Open-face Bronschweiger melts, liver sausage, tomatoes, Helmonds, mustard, and velvita cheese on food.com. Velvita. Velvita. I guess that's still better than individually wrapped craft slices. You know what? Any cheese that successfully can be used with a Play-Doh fuzzy bumper barbershop shouldn't be cheese.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You know what I mean? That stuff. That's not right. That isn't right. I don't like that. These are like those 7-11 freaking notch. boat you go get when we're teenagers. It's right. Exactly, yes. Gross.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Oh my gosh. You know which Bronschweiger brand you should get, Scott? I'm going to send you a link. Tell me. Tell me more. It's from this company right here. Oh, I'll just tell you. Fricks. Fricks. Oh, I love it. Fricks. Oh, Frick.
Starting point is 00:21:19 That fits my lifestyle. I'm ready. It does. Yes. Okay. Fricks. Fricks. Bronschweger. See if I have a sound file of me saying frick. Yeah, here we go. Oh, shit! What in the Frick! There's no new slogan.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Rick's Brunsweiger. Try it now. It'll make you go. What the frick? That's a freak. That's pretty good. Why aren't we in the jingle business? That was a damn good jingle. Well, all right. On that note, I'm going to get some. Seriously, Kim's going to get some. I'm going to make something out of it. um i may go to the store later too i don't know i think she's going today is the reason i'm having her i think you'll have an easier time finding that than a uh four-eyed grimace adult happy meal yeah i will i haven't tried since but uh yeah yeah that was a pain now nobody's talking about although worth it they keep showing up on redd it's like why are we not talking about these four-eyed uh toy adult toy things you get at the McDonald's i'm like hello we've been talking
Starting point is 00:22:26 it out before you knew about it two weeks ago when they were a thing and no they're not that's right we're hipster podcasters here generated by AI all right let's uh let's get into what's next here folks and that is the news it's today's news brought to you by not turning off your delivery menu okay so i don't know what this is so i'm excited to find out what this means well i ordered food from we wanted salads last night but we were too lazy to make them here at the house okay all right And so we were like, who makes good salads around here? And we really like this pub up the street that makes amazing food called The Break. And I've taken Hammond there before.
Starting point is 00:23:09 He knows about this place. Make really good salad. So they make this steak salad with like mixed greens and this like weird raspberry raspberry blue cheese thing. It's so good. Anyway, we ordered three of those. And we're like, all right, sweet. How do they do it?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Well, they don't do DoorDash. They do pick up takeaway. But oh, look, they use this service. online where you can order online and then they'll deliver it and it's their own delivery and we can tip them what we want so on and so forth cool and the restaurant gets more of the money than they would with a door dash yeah which we're a hundred percent fine doing right i don't need to use door dash we in fact we could have driven up there and grabbed it but we just thought well let's see if this works we've never tried it before so we did it and they said yep you're you're confirmed and your
Starting point is 00:23:53 food will be there by whatever it was last night five 55 or some number like just before six and it didn't show up at the time they said and we're like let's just up the street maybe they're busy we don't know so we're just kind of waiting and waiting and I had forgotten I put my phone number in as the like contact number and I left it in the other room
Starting point is 00:24:12 and on Do Not Disturb so I didn't hear this thing ringing I didn't know they were trying to call me but they apparently were trying to call me and they blamed it on some guy named Kevin who I guess they don't use this anymore they use it during the pandemic they don't use it now but he turned it on today
Starting point is 00:24:29 it's the thing you can do every day you can decide whether you use it or not yeah and they they hit it to yes and so they were and they were very apologetic we're so sorry this and that and kim's like how long were you waiting for your food it was a lot longer than i wanted it was like quarter after six by the time we figured out what the heck was going on so finally um kim's like well just come down there get it no problem and so we did and they gave us a ten dollar uh discount on everything just because just for the trouble. They were really nice. So what I'm doing here is I'm promoting the break,
Starting point is 00:25:04 an amazing little bar pub thing up the road that is a great. They're really good people. Their food's amazing. The only problem they have is their owner who lives in the area has three teenage boys who think it's funny at 2 a.m. to drag race down the main road. Oh, no, that's, wow. And no one wants to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Oh, geez. Yeah, we definitely know it's him. And the guy knows, too, and he's annoyed with it as well, but it's just like he's got these spoiled rich kids who think it's funny at 2 a.m. to go, rear, rear up the road. And I'm like, save it for when you're 50, and you're trying to overcompensate for your tiny, tiny penises. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:25:42 All right. Jeez. So, I know Kim watched the bear. Did you watch the bear? I watched much of the bear with her, but I miss bits and pieces, but saw most of the bear. Yeah, there was an episode where they had like an order online pickup order kind of thing and they turned that on and this thing's just spitting out tickets pu-chube jub jub that's what i'm picturing these guys when they turned on there
Starting point is 00:26:04 that was like the the firehouse subs we went to that we got super delayed at i felt so bad for them that day yeah like what have we done to these poor people you know they're not getting paid more but they sure are working harder yeah uh but all their prices went up too that salad used to be eight bucks it's 13 now come on now what's going on there what's going on there inflation is that what you're telling me, inflation? God, it almost would have been cheaper just to make your own salad. You're 100% correct. In retrospect, I think we probably should have done that.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Eh, you know, 30 bucks later, you learned. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's move on to this here story. This has been actually all over the place since I originally found it, so I feel like I'm, you know, everyone's heard this story, but it's still like it's worth talking about. A Texas mother is warning that hocus pocus two, the, the new, new film, the sequel to the early 90s deal. It will unleash hell on your kids.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Brian, we're entering Satanic Panic version 2.0 right now. Unleash hell. And I don't think they mean, she means that it'll beat your kids to a pulp. No. She's like, okay. Like beat the smear out of them. It will actually release hell and your kids will be the recipients of said hell. The recipients of hell.
Starting point is 00:27:24 That's exactly right. That's a great new movie I'm going to make. Recipients of Hell. It's an album cover. That's what that is. Anyway, the one mom is urging parents not to let their children watch the newly released Tokus Pocus, too, because the film will unleash hell on your kids and in your home. Jamie Gooch. Oh. Her last name is Gooch. Her last name is Gooch. I remember when she used to beat up on poor Arnold on different strokes. It was horrible. Man, that Gooch kid. She unleashed hell on poor Arnold Drummond. What's you talking about, Gooch? A mother of three living in Troy, Texas shared a post on social media
Starting point is 00:27:58 And told local news station Their family would not watch this film The worst case scenario is You unleash hell on your kids and in your home The whole movie is based on witches Harvesting Children for Blood Sacrifices Unquote That's what I heard. I heard that was the Disney Plus description
Starting point is 00:28:13 Like when you pull up the movie Add to Watch list it says Join Bett Middler Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Nijimi as they harvest children for blood sacrifices. Yeah, rated G. Rated G for all audiences. The mom added that while everybody thinks it's fake and innocent,
Starting point is 00:28:33 the characters in the film could be casting any type of spell that they want to. Any kind of spell. Any kind of spell. I hate this so much. Walter White could be making any kind of drug, but he chose math. And then she went, anything could be coming through that TV screen in your home. Anything. Anything.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah, yeah, a broadcast of a... I just want to kick her in. In an interview, she cited her faith and belief that there is a spiritual war being waged against homes in America. Did she just get pulled out of 1981 and, like, planted here? Oh, man. Is she a Kirk Cameron character? I don't freaking know. At least back then, he was just a kid making TV, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah, that's true. Right. As a reason to warn parents about films and other form of entertainment that depict witches and witchcraft, Today, Parents, which is an offshoot of today, reached out to Gooch for comment. See, this is the problem. Not only are we giving her air time because we're talking about her, even today, parents is like, hey, you want to come on here and talk about your deal?
Starting point is 00:29:34 And why do they want that? Because she sounds like an insane person, and that keeps people riveted. That's why this happened. Great for ratings. Like, hey, let's all watch the crazy person rant about Satan. Yep. Jeremy Gooch responded via email on behalf and declined to comment or give an interview, saying that the family had been dealing with threats.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I don't know if they mean threats because of her comments or the threat of things coming out of their TV. I don't know, which they meant. Gooch shared that her family has not observed Halloween for four or five years. She believes the potential dangers far out, or let's see, stretch far beyond all Hallows Eve. You know, it's funny. Jeremy and Jamie Gooch. I just, I was like thinking, Jeremy Gooch. Jeremy Gooch.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Jeremy Gooch, Jeremy Gooch, Jeremy Gooch. They're stupid and they're fascists. They're just dumb and stupid asses. I mean, we can make a whole song, Ryan. A whole song about Jeremy Gooch. So dumb. Gooch. I'd go to the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I just would. Gooch is too weird. I don't care how long your family line is. Just go change it to anything. But Gooch. It's too close to Cooch. All right. There's that story.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Oh, that's pretty good win, Megas. Jeremy Goosh, Jeremy Goosh, can you do the Fandango? Yeah, I like that. That's really good. Nicely done. I guess Jamie Goosh is even worse even better, the right number of syllables. Jamie Goosh, Jamie Goosh, can you do the Fandango? No, because it's on my television and scary things come out of it.
Starting point is 00:31:14 All right. Thunderbolts and lightning coming through my Samsung. We've given her the brand of television this year. My guess is she doesn't have a TV now. He didn't say, but this is what these people do. Oh, I'm sure they do. And I'm sure that thing is locked to a certain news channel that... Yeah, we won't mention here.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I'm sure Tucker Carlson is on that TV every night. Yeah. You want to talk about bullshit spewing out of your TV. His confused eyebrows. Yeah, the irony, the irony. Yes. The real bullshit. it was in the house the whole time.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's right, exactly. Here's a Vegas story. We haven't done a Vegas story in a while. Oh, we haven't. This is kind of cool. A man filmed. I'll show you the footage in a second, everybody. Man takes a rescue camel to an in-and-out drive-thru in Las Vegas for fries.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Just one of fries. And this is real. This is that one big, the one that everybody knows, if you've gone to Vegas and went to in and out, it's that one. Right off of the, right off of the, right off of the, the 15 by what should we call it, by a tropicana Boulevard, or is it
Starting point is 00:32:23 a tropicana? It's off tropicana, right? I think it's off tropicana Boulevard, yeah. On the side that if you kept going over there, you'd go to the Rio, I guess, or whatever it is. Yes, correct, yeah. Anyway, this guy just he didn't even ride the camel. He walked it up to the thing, said, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:39 what's up? And I said, we just want some price. I assume you want this animal style. Ha ha. I didn't even think of that That's very good I don't know We've talked about this on the show before But how do you classify an animal
Starting point is 00:32:53 Like that as a As a support animal or as a Well rescue No it's been like saved from a Like a rescue dog Oh I was thinking Not a Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:05 I don't know why I was thinking that That's dumb Of course rescue meaning rescue animal I get it now A rescue tiger Why does somebody need to have a tiger with them at all times to make them feel better. But rescued from what?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Like one of the casinos and a, like a zoo show? Rescued from that Sigma Derby that they used to have inside Caesar's Palace with the little camels running around in circles. Wait, though, that was, those were a little plastic, you guys. That was a little plastic camels. I don't know how, that's the part of the story to understand. I don't get it. Yeah, probably from a zoo or some sort of cheapo attraction where they weren't taking care of it,
Starting point is 00:33:44 some petting zoo or... In Colorado, it says, here it is. Yeah, well, the rescue... Oh, rescue from Colorado. We have a lot of animal rehabilitation. I wonder if the camel was rescued from Colorado or if it's a rescue camel from Colorado. Yeah, like, was it life hard in Colorado?
Starting point is 00:34:05 And they were like, you know what? Take you to Vegas for a good time kind of thing. I don't know. Oh, yeah. So the sanctuary, yeah, is a rescue from Colorado that now lives in a sanctuary in the Las Vegas area. Yeah, it's a private owner in Colorado. I wonder how far, because he walked it and then went through the drive up, and that's right there near the strip and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Is this animal sanctuary just like right around there, like next to dildos and cars? And, you know, like, where is this thing? Because you know how that is over there. It's all concentrated. No, it totally is. The strip balls right next to the 15 on the other side of the strip are dildo shops, puppetry of the penis and car dealers. Yeah, it's all weird over there.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I would not recommend being there at night. No, I think he must have driven it there in a, you know, livestock camper. Oh, like those ones you see you with cattle and horses. The camel just really loves fries and wants them hot and doesn't want cold fries brought to them back at the sanctuary. Yeah, that's true. You know, they always said a camel. I don't know if this is still, if this was just stuff they said and we believed it back in the day, but the camels carry all that water in their humps, right?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, yeah. It's really just fat. Yeah, I mean, it's water, fat, yeah. Could I tap that and, like, get a little water out of there? I don't think it's stored like a tank. It's like moisture in the fat that's in those humps. Got it. So it's like a, it's like a boob with milk in it, right?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, you know, human or otherwise. It's not a container of milk. Right, exactly. It's not a... It's an arrangement of... Well, in a woman's body, it's a little bit more like a tank than it is a fat pocket that's a hump. Right. Like they're not extracting milk from fat.
Starting point is 00:35:57 No. No, but I think the structure of it is more porous and like windy. It is more porous. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And boy, howdy. Women. Can I just say something for women real quick?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Can I just say, I'm, I got a daughter's now, you know, brinkie. breastfeeding a little one now, a new one, and she's doing great, just this healthy little thing, no, no jaundice, nothing, she's doing good. But I just, I look at my daughter, and I, you know, you watched Kim go through this three times, but I forget how big a deal this is for a woman's body. Like, yeah, they got to shove this seven pound 19 inch kid out of her, you know, her belly, which is all distended and jacked up from the process and then hork it all out of your doodah there and then you got other stuff that's got to get out of there too and then you know you tear things and you rip things and then your uterus is like a big gaping monster going okay i'm trying to
Starting point is 00:36:57 shrink again this hurts and then you got to try to get milk going and that's hard sometimes easy for some hard for others and uh you hear the baby cry and then all of a sudden your boobs hurt. It's like, I don't think dudes have any freaking idea, dude. I don't think we get it. We really don't. And if dudes could have babies, we, you know, Roe versus Wade would not have been overturned. Oh, 100%. I don't care if you're pro or against that move. I don't care who you are. If you tell me
Starting point is 00:37:27 that it would be, that it wouldn't be any different if men were pregnant, you're lying to me and yourself. You're lying to me. There's no way. no way dude I have some hardcore pro-life friends who would who would go yeah that's absolutely true they would agree with me on that because you know think about it
Starting point is 00:37:47 the men are making all the choices I will have an abortion burn American people to mail all right let's move on to Texas Pete sure Texas Pete sounds almost vaguelys
Starting point is 00:38:06 isn't there a Texas Pete does. Oh, there's a, uh, what is the dude's name that, that, uh, the animated neon sign. Yeah, the, the, the, sitting up there right. It's not Texas Pete. There's Vegas Vicky and she's now in the Circa. What's the dude's name? That's not the golden nugget, is it?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Or was. No, golden nugget, still the golden nugget. Circa, surca is like right across the street from the plaza. What was the cowboy one? Yeah, I can't remember that guy's name. He's not Texas Pete, I don't think. No, he does have a cowboy hat, though. Vegas Vicky and, what's that guy's name?
Starting point is 00:38:45 I can't remember. He does. He does have a cowboy hat. That is true. He does. He's somewhere else now. They've parked him somewhere. He's probably at the Neon Museum.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Vegas Vick? Vegas Vick? Vegas Vick. Wow, I don't like that. Yeah, there he is right there. Yep. I don't think Vegas Vick is a good name. I'm just going to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It's a stupid name. It is a. the stupid name. Name a cowboy in any cowboy lore named Vic. It's short for Victor. Yeah, how many victors do you know? Oh, look out. It's short for Vicky.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It's old eagle eye Vic coming to town to shoot people. Oh, no. Call the sheriff. Anyway. Texas Pete Hotsauce is what we're talking about, and they're facing a lawsuit because it's not made in Texas. It's made in North Carolina. Get a rope.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah. Grocer store shopper in California has, filed a class action lawsuit against T.W. Garner Foods Incorporated or company alleging false advertising over their Texas Pete brand Hot Sauce. The issue, Texas Pete is not made there, as I mentioned, it's in North
Starting point is 00:39:49 Carolina. Philip White of L.A. claims he was under the impression that Texas Pete was hot sauce that was produced in Texas when he purchased a $3 bottle at Ralph Supermarket in September 2021, according to the complaint. I'm just going to stop here
Starting point is 00:40:05 and say, F this guy. This is the reason that Jeff Judy, Jeff Judy, Judge Judy exists. Go do it there. Yeah. Did he also go to see Indiana Jones and was upset that that movie didn't take place in Indiana? Yeah, I got bad news for him for most of the movies he's seen in TV shows. Are you, did you sue somebody because Battlestar Galactica was in Vancouver and not space? Did not take place in a Battlestar?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. There wasn't an actual space where it happened. Dumbass. I hate this kind of stuff. Just because a name contains the state, that person, Texas Pete, If Texas Pete was even a real person, he could have moved from Texas to North Carolina and been impressed by the barbecue sauce out there. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:47 He says, the lawsuit says, there is surprisingly nothing Texas about them. That's the actual quote. The complaint further alleges that Texas Pete's ingredients also come from sources outside of Texas. Again, bad news, dude. Everything you do comes from somewhere else. Yeah. That's what we do now. Anyway, it says it was an obvious question
Starting point is 00:41:08 The brand even acknowledges That it may be confusing for some No, just this idiot, I promise The brand's website I'm trying to put this barbecue sauce Or this hot sauce on my French fries Which definitely come from France Yep, yep, these are from France
Starting point is 00:41:25 Not Idaho The brands The brands highlights a December 5th, 2013 article From the Triad Business Journal Pulling out the following sentence with a name like Texas Pete one would think the famed hot sauce is manufactured somewhere in the lone star state
Starting point is 00:41:41 so they even say on their website multiple places unless you're a complete idiot this stuff's not made there this guy's dumb and should lose his suit we don't even know if Pete was made in Texas conceived in Texas no we don't even know I mean for all we know
Starting point is 00:41:55 Pete hey I hate to tell this guy this but hey Mr. White in California Pete's probably made up probably not a real guy yeah yeah I bet it's just to name. It's my thinking. Yeah. No way. I'm going to sue him again. I want the judge. This California King isn't from California.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Right. Just throw it out. Judge, uh, uh, judge, uh, judge, uh, hates his job. Just throw this out. Okay. Exactly. Anyway. Frivelace. Uh, here's a final story. This one about Hong Kong. So maybe this is, you like to travel, Brian. This may be for you. I do. Yeah. Uh, Hong Kong is offering 500,000 thousand free air tickets to tempt tourists back to their fine land. Geez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Hong Kong attracted about 56 million visitors a year before the pandemic. And now the popular destination is taking significant steps to win tourists back after two years of some of the world's worst travel restrictions. Also, China, who, you know, Hong Kong is now officially 100% a part of and no longer a British colony. They're hardcore on their lockdowns. like we're nothing compared to them yeah yeah Japan uh separate obviously but um also just finally I think it's actually even today is the day that Japan is allowing tourists to come back to uh to Japan without being monitored or or right you know guided tours or things like that yeah the Asian countries have dealt with this stuff for a long time especially high population
Starting point is 00:43:29 ones China India stuff like that they're going to take hard hardcore measures and they And they do. I mean, they were beating people for not having their, what was the deal? Something a few weeks ago even. I don't remember what city it was,
Starting point is 00:43:41 but there was some Chinese city where like if you didn't comply and do the right thing with the not only masks, but like some vaccination proof thing, people were getting shoved out of line and kicked and it's weird. I mean, it's China and they have problems,
Starting point is 00:43:54 but whatever. Anyway, Hong Kong's awesome. I've been there. It's great. I would go there again. But here's what they did. Just days after dropping its longstanding mandatory hotel
Starting point is 00:44:04 hotel quarantine requirement. Hong Kong has confirmed plans to give away half a million airline tickets to boost tourism. The move announced two years ago was confirmed by CNN. Oh, it was announced two years ago. That's weird. By the airport authority in Hong Kong, the AAHK, which said that the 500,000 tickets worth over $254.8 million would go to global visitors along with residents. Let's see, Back in 2020, Airport Authority purchased around 500,000 air tickets to advance in advance from the Territory's home-based airlines part of this relief package. That's what they did. So they bought these air tickets to save the airlines two years ago, and now they're going to give those away. But the part is that I don't like about this story is they don't actually say how they'll do it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Like, let's say Brian wanted to go to Hong Kong. How do you get your tickets? I go to win a trip to Hong Kong.com. Okay. go for it everybody and reserve that if it isn't already saying shit out of luck dot com i think is the uh the fletcher's uh yeah told us oh i love that that was so great i did too the only see here's the problem christine if you're listening and scott if you're listening now people want you to do that all the time so right yeah yeah be got to give the people what they want set yourself up set yourself up give
Starting point is 00:45:23 the people what they want that's what i'm saying that's right uh speaking of giving them what they want people like music we need a musical break today got a little mix up in the uh not a mix up a change up in the schedule uh we have dan dan the tabletop man uh a dangent today instead of a bill but we still have our science segment after that so dan and then bobby and then who knows what but we have to so confusing it is very confusing but we got to put a big well we should say our month our month no month what do you call that uh when you're uh when you got the pms your monthly your menzies Our time of the month with Dan
Starting point is 00:46:02 That's what I was trying to say Oh gotcha okay yes Because he only comes on once a month But anyway he'll be here in a bit We gotta divide this up though The song so do you got one there? We do we do Let's go to L.A. for a rock quartet
Starting point is 00:46:13 We're going to go heavy on this one A brand new song from these guys They're called Blame My Youth This brand new song is called They Only Love You When You're Dead There's a great music video That goes along with this as well Yeah, this is co-written with Nick Long, MGK, horns, I'm sorry, Borns, and King Princess, and produced by Joey Mois, frontman Sean Van Vleet, talked about this on Sirius XM's Alt Nation.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Here's the song, They Only Love You and Your Dad, from Blame My Youth. If Angol die broke How are the rest of us supposed to have hope? We're all trying to be great No one gives a damn about your life until you lie in your grave We all know that it's wrong They don't know what you got till you're gone They only love it when you're dead
Starting point is 00:47:33 That's the only time you get me spent They only love it with your 27 When you go to happen Because you die on the back with the ball in your hand Yeah They only love you with your... We are dead The struggle is real
Starting point is 00:47:58 Real depressing I ran out of money So I count my blessings No one sings your praises Till your bodies When they're fighting at your funeral About who loved you the most We all know that it's wrong
Starting point is 00:48:23 They don't know what you've got till you're gone. They only love you when you're dead. That's the only time you get misspins. They only love you with your 27 when you go to happen because you died on your back with a ball in your hand, yeah. They only love you when you're dead. That's the only time you're Spans
Starting point is 00:48:57 They only love you if you're 27 when you go to life Because you died on your back With a ball in your hand Yeah They only love you when you're Death Yeah
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Starting point is 00:52:59 Regale me with a reminder of what that song was, please. Brand new single from the LA band, Blame My Youth. It's called They Only Love You When You're Dead. It's true. That's not true. Sometimes people love people when they're not dead. No, no, it's true.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Totally true. But it can be true for you at home. All right. Sad if it's true. It is true. Sad and true. Sad. It is. Sad. We're not going to let sadness get in the way of our next guest. You know him. Oh, I have to put in, uh, let's see. What does he go by? Geek Jock. That's right. You know him is Dan, Dan, Dan, the meeple, and meds man. Meds and Meeple Man. I know exactly. I remember when Dan used to talk about games.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah, remember that. Well, there might be a bit of that today when I push his thing. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful. may cause drowsiness. Oh, right. Hey, look who it is. It's Dan, Dan, the tabletop man.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Hello, Dan. Oh, I don't hear Dan. Dan's muted. Dan's microphone. I'm not even getting any rings of speakage. He's typing. I'm here, but I can't hear you guys. Oh, we don't hear you either.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Either. Sounds like your audio and our stuff needs a tweak in Discord options Let's see what he says to that Because he's there I see no rings of speakage though So I think that means his mic
Starting point is 00:54:26 And his listing devices are not set correctly Yeah sounds like it But I don't know how often he use Discord But that is not unusual Discord will once in a while Switch it all up on you Yep It'll flip over to a different default device
Starting point is 00:54:40 Oh oh now I hear him There we go There is Great programs. Man, Discord just decides that it wants to, it changes whatever it wants. You get notification. You don't want to talk to people. You want to talk to people. Who to hell know? It's a bummer. It's a bummer. But it's good to have you here, dude. I'll take whatever technical difficulties get us there. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:55:00 As long as we get you. Yeah, yeah, man. Hey, welcome to your monthly visit. It's always good to have Dan on here. I was going to start things with an email. I still am because I want to hear your comments on this. but this is just somebody sent this in regarding the Dan segment all right so here it is
Starting point is 00:55:17 hey schizophrenia and bipolar oh man geez let's just diminish those two conditions which is which I don't know I guess well we all have multiple personalities that's true we always assume we always assume if it's a B it's Brian S it's me so I guess I'm schizophrenic
Starting point is 00:55:33 Brian's bipolar bipolar sure and what do you get perfect podcast all right says I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner in Minnesota and I was listening to the show on September 12th with Dan talking about kickbacks and medications with medications. He did a great job of explaining it all. We have drug reps trying to come into our clinic in the hospital all the time and some have tried to come into our individual offices to try and talk to us about their medication. Our front desk workers are trained to stop them, politely take their educational handouts and then have them leave. I love how that sounds. I'm sure. Off of their heads. Yeah, off of their heads, exactly. Says, I am sure it's a state or hospital law here where they are quite strict about interacting with the providers,
Starting point is 00:56:20 but it would have been cool to get a free set of golf clubs or a refrigerator. Anyway, that's all of the show. Insert Van Jibberish here. Clown baby. Hey, clown baby in the chat. So, Dan, that seems to kind of confirm what you said about how often they come around and stuff, but are there different rules? Like where you are, and I know you're in a very different, you know, different position, certainly than she isn't even different from like, say, retail, pharmaceutical stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But even then, is it cool if you see a guy and he goes, hey, I'm here from butt scratching drug company and I'm going to show you this miracle thing. Are you required to, like, turn them away? Can you say, no, come on in. Give me my free truck or whatever. Like, how's that go? Even now, like I say, it's not the Wild West anymore. Like, generally, they come around just with some information and what they can give you and then even try to get you, you know, maybe a little seminar or some of the drug. So the big thing to remember, too, is that not all drug reps or all these things are, quote, quote, bad. I mean, they get a bad rap, but I've seen so many places and been a part of other kind of kind of, whether it be a hospital or some other kind of outfit, where sometimes the specialized ones are very important to get drug reps in there because they do bring some good information because every day things change. And being, you know, being health care providers, you don't always have all the time in the world to stay up to date. Like, we go to CEs and stuff with that, continuing educations. You know, you have to have a certain amount yearly,
Starting point is 00:57:43 but you don't always, aren't always able to get the most up-to-day thing. And with all the advances in science, I mean, it's such a big industry in the last 20, 30 years that, you know, that med that all of a sudden was used for, you know, somebody's, to get a little paw up off somebody's butt crack is all of a sudden now the leading thing for schizophrenia where they're like, holy cow, it just works. So that's how medicine is. And, you know, Dr. Ribbitt may not have had enough time to go to a seminar to know about that, you know, advancement. Or he may have heard about it, and a drug rep there can show him some of the data or maybe some of the studies that shows this new indication. And then the doctor can kind of go and do some more research themselves. So it's really interesting to see how, you know, how things advanced. But, again, what I said is the main thing to know is that not all drug reps are bad.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And sometimes they do provide a good, you know, more so. I think it's more so in the specialty industries rather than your general practitioner office where they kind of probably see the same five meds a million times from different people and they're just trying to get in your head as far as, oh, I heard this, you know, I heard your name for this muscle relaxant was the last one I heard. So I'm going to write it, even though there's three other things that cost about four bucks a month. Oh, right. Yeah. You know, that I could be writing. If, if I can tell me if this ever happened, maybe it's probably never happened. But if this ever happened, what would you do? Let's say a drug rep
Starting point is 00:59:03 comes in he says hey dan got this got this new thing can't wait to tell you about it goes straight into your veins by tomorrow you're cured whatever it is right right and you go okay well i can't really talk to you right now i can't do this uh please leave some stuff at the front and well you know thanks for stopping by then he jumps over the counter and he pulls a syringe out of his coat pocket and jams that syringe right in your neck just and squirts you full of whatever this miracle whatever it is, and then what would you do? What would your reaction? I would expect
Starting point is 00:59:37 to wake up in you know, in Vin Diesel's car and we're riding somewhere into Mexico. That's where I would wake up and figure out, you know, I am now the carrier for some sort of cure for the world and everybody's looking for me. Right. I like that.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I like that a lot, actually. I like this movie. I want to see it. You kind of turned it into a little happy ending there. Nicely done. Well, it'll probably know Happy ending, that's a completely different podcast. Yeah, if the guy jumps over the... But I'll bet you get one of those if you feature their pharmaceuticals. Maybe the pills are given you are meant for, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:11 maybe they're to enhance your happier endings. You know what I'm saying? That's right. Hey, is it true, Dan, from a... We were talking about this other day. The Viagra came out of a heart medication. It was like an accidental side effect. So it's actually, it's still used quite a bit for,
Starting point is 01:00:26 oh my God, it's just plain. it's a myocardial infarction it's like a lot more lung based hypertension oh yeah and and i get prior authorizations all the time for so they'll send in uh you know sildenafil or the viagra and they needed to prove you know that they generally have to tell you i mean doctors really can't lie because these insurance companies are going to kind of come behind them and we'll look at their you know you have to show chart notes and stuff like that so if they're like saying it's uh you know for atrial hypertension uh you know and then you see in the notes where where the first thing it says is diagnosis is ED.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You're like, ah, it's not really a thing. But there are, especially children, you see it a lot. You see, I think it's Ravadio is the brand name that you see used for children for that. I think it's systolic, I think it's systolic hypertension that it's used a lot for. And when it is used for that, it's a very good medication and it works very, very well. So you give it to, like, a little kid gets Viagra? That seems insane. I'm sorry, my head.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It's stupid. The spammers know no bounds in my house about it. Yeah, they want to get you. But I mean, I guess it's not going to, if it works for the thing it works for, even if, you know, Junior's got a 24-hour boner or whatever, it doesn't matter. Like, it's meant for the heart thing, and that's just a side effect. It's just a side effect. Yeah, and I don't think, you know, and when it's used in those other populations,
Starting point is 01:01:48 that dosing is a little bit different. And so you don't really, you know, you probably won't even have those side effects of that sort of thing. And generally, and this is, I apologize if this offense anybody's delicacies, generally when you're used in those other populations, you do still need some sort of arousal to get the side effect of it. Oh, I didn't know that. Some of these other populations, you know what I mean? Like, it's not just going to give you a boner for, you know, automatically.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah. You know, I didn't know that. It's more a helper. It's not a, it's not to do all the work for you. I mean, this is news to me. I thought it was always just like, hey, Here's, enjoy this, whether you like it or not. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Well, there's some other meds, like, we're going down a little dange and rabbit hole here, but there was an old medicine, Caverge Act, which was used for the same things. But you were injecting it into your peen. Oh. Yeah. No. And then there was also kind of like, I believe they had some posthories of Cabracek, too. But, yeah, and then that would just cause arousal.
Starting point is 01:02:49 That's a little bit different than most of the meds where you still have to have arousal. You're not just going to, you know, that's why some of them, the more popular ones that the last like 12 hours. And so you can, you know, like I think it's Viagra, most of them were take one hour prior to sex. Whereas other ones were like, hey, you're not sure. It's funny because commercials work great for these. They're like, you're not really sure when you're going to have that moment. But for the next 12 to 24 hours, if you do have that moment, we got you covered. Yeah, but then by the way, it's a needle or a thing up your butt.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Enjoy. No, and I think, actually, I think it was, I'm pretty sure it was a urethral suppository. No, geez. Yes. That's an object. It doesn't, nothing should fit. Don't put anything else. And I apologize for the pain that people may be experiencing just thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Just from that. Thank you very much. I'm having a little bit of pain and it's because of you. So, all right, that's good to know. I just wanted to get to the bottom of that finally and figure out the heck's going on. And I learned something. I thought, I thought Viagra was just. automatic here's your here's your deal you know go for it i had no idea and uh and it's funny how
Starting point is 01:03:59 the of the side effects of women and this is something i say all the time but like that's been happening for uh you know 40 50 years where most of the meds that are used for something now were used for something else when they were in development which is interesting and you even see some of that with uh you know some antibiotics and stuff like that like they just were they just happened to come across this side effect that it worked better for for this and they're like all right well let's use it all right just great well now that you've everyone's come and gotten some medical knowledge let's get a recommendation for the week for what people should be playing on their tabletop this weekend do you have anything
Starting point is 01:04:32 hot right now that you're really a really hot game um and uh and again johnson you can fall asleep for this one um because hold on are the instructions more than a single card is that what you're telling me is that what's going on no it's that the game is going to take like two out two to three hours and uh and sometimes and you can also play you know the explanation of this game might be longer than what you would want, but it still it would be easy enough. It still would be easy enough for you to play, but it is a sprawling, really cool game. So,
Starting point is 01:04:59 we all have heard about Twilight Imperium, like Fourth Edition. That's a game that I talk about a lot about how it's like a, uh, anywhere from a four to 12 hour extravaganza where it's a big, just a big 4X game and everybody's got their own race and you're just taking over the universe and it just takes forever, but it's
Starting point is 01:05:16 it's great. This is what's called Twilight Inscription. It's based on the same universe, but so roll and right games are kind of I talk about these a lot like flipping right or rolling right games are kind of a hotness that's become around the last few years so like rolling right
Starting point is 01:05:31 the ultimate example of rolling right is like Yatsi you know you're rolling dice and you're writing stuff down so newer ones the you know the modern rolling rights like you've got fleet the dice game or that's so clever clever yeah yes exactly so that's the those are big hotnesses and they've come like
Starting point is 01:05:47 crazy the last few years I mean there's just hundreds and hundreds of them but they're great because they're portable and they're just easy to play and easy to teach, but they're starting to get heavier ones now. So things like Three Sisters is a little bit heavier. Hadrian's wall
Starting point is 01:06:03 is really heavy, but things like, and then you have Welcome 2, which is a nice light one, but so they went ahead and they decided, Fantasy Flight put out this, it's a rolling, oh, it's kind of a flipping right, we'll call it rolling right, because there's dice in there too, but it's a rolling right based on Twilight Imperium, but it can take, and you can play it from anywhere from 1A
Starting point is 01:06:19 players. I played this a few times already so I haven't gotten a chance because I haven't had a lot of game days lately because of hockey and everything else. So I have played it solo, but it does take a little while, but it's great. It's easy to learn, but it's very, I mean, it's got to be, if you've seen some of these pictures, you can see how it's, it's a little intimidating because everybody has four sheets. And then you're doing stuff. Here, everybody has four sheets and they also have a race that has a special ability. And then there's basically, I think it's like 11 rounds that you're going to go through. So the person that's kind of just, we'll say running the game.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It's like, they call them like the, I don't remember, the diplomat or something. Like somebody's got a special name and they just kind of run the game with flipping over the card. So you'll flip over the first card, it has like a, they'll have like a scenario or the event of the round. And then you'll get some, you'll get like three dice or two dice or one die, depending on the event. And then you'll have to do something with some of these resources. And then you pick which one of your four cards that you have, you know, your four main event cards that you're going to use. And you're going to figure out which one of those you're going to. going to activate for that round, you know, which one of your sheets.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And then you do different things, you know, there's navigation, there's kind of exploitation, it's like 4X. I mean, and there's even kind of a war thing where you're unlocking different ships and stuff and then you're putting them out because you're always going to, think of it almost seven wonder style when when there is a war, you're fighting the person on your left and you're fighting the person on your right. And you're not necessarily fighting the person across the table. So depending on if you beat one or the other, you get some rewards when it, when that war
Starting point is 01:07:47 event does come up. And you kind of, it's interesting because just since. there is the four different uh sheets you you kind of if you kind of spread out too much you're going to be the master of nothing so you've got to kind of pick your your poison depending on your race too that may have better advances or better ways to use uh your dice on uh different the different sheets to to advance better and it may help your strategy a little bit more because if you thin yourself out too much you're just going to not going to really score very well as it is so uh but uh but this one is great it's a lot of fun uh they have these uh so i call it a roll and right but all
Starting point is 01:08:20 these sheets are kind of this like waxy pen where it's not necessarily it's a I think they call it some sort of it's like chalk pen even though I think they used the word chalk but it's really just another you know just another grease pen on there on there but it's great but it takes a little while
Starting point is 01:08:35 even so but it doesn't it doesn't overstay its welcome even even at the length that it's at which is which is great okay so really it was a huge hotness that one of the last I don't know if it was Gen Con or what it was but it was huge hotness there but I picked it up from Cape Fear games around here and uh and it's great well uh that's awesome was the name one more time so
Starting point is 01:08:55 just make sure people heard it's called twilight inscription twilight inscription i'm writing this down so i can share it out uh awesome twilight inscription and i put the link in there i don't know if you've got oh i missed it there it is yeah it's okay okay there you have it but it's probably going to be about 50 60 bucks at a friendly local game store and it's going to scare people off because of maybe the weight or how it looks you know big old table to have a lot of people there but but i'll say it's as heavy as it looks and if you are used to playing roll and write games even maybe not hadrian's wall or the really heavier ones it doesn't feel it's once you i say this a lot with games once you speak the language of the game you learn the language of the game you know what you're doing
Starting point is 01:09:34 because rolling rights you know even the heavier ones you know when you see the symbols once you know what's going on and everything then it's just a matter of wrapping your head around all right well do i want to unlock uh this technology or do i want to use the symbols over here then you're kind of the chaining things together and this is what's fun in games is like when you're like oh I got this and it unlocked this
Starting point is 01:09:54 that's what's rolling right it's like Gonshot Clever Brian like you got oh I I circle this and now I get to do this and I get to do this and this and then you're like you feel smart after doing stuff like that that's awesome I love it
Starting point is 01:10:05 well check it out everybody the game is called Twilight Inscription available probably not at Target but maybe other places I don't know yeah probably I like a gaming store
Starting point is 01:10:16 yeah And who knows, something like this may even get into Target eventually because Target's starting to have all sort. And you probably can get it even like Barnes & Noble may start carrying some of these things. Fantasy Flight is a little bit different with kind of how they release a lot of things. I don't think they allow a lot of online game stores to do these. So you'll see them more in your friend of local game store. And I guess wherever Asmoday kind of puts their stuff out because they're all owned by Asmoday as well, Asmoday USA. But I'll just remind everybody before I go, don't stick anything in your peen.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, don't put anything in your pain. Yeah. Seriously. Especially like a meeple. That would hurt, right? Going in and out. You don't want that. Oh, yeah. Don't be tiny, tiny meeple. If we've learned. Yeah, or chits. Don't put chits in or anything. You know what? Don't put anything. It's an exit only deal is what the deal is. I don't want to shame anybody for whatever they're into. Exit only. All right. That's what I'm saying. Dan, have a fantastic week. And great week and great talking to you guys, as always. Yeah. Be good. Have fun. Have a good Halloween, by the way. We'll see you later. Halloween. Thanks, Dan. Halloweanus. Halloween. I got an email I want to practice as... Okay, so someone sent this in, and I want to read it as if the computer wrote it, okay?
Starting point is 01:11:24 Okay, so here we go. Let's see if we can get this to play. All right, here we go. Good morning, guys. I have enjoyed filling out the questions that Brian makes up for the feud. I couldn't find the last one, and the new one is in Discord or Facebook. I don't use Facebook, and I think I need an invite for Discord. if that's possible, or can you just email me the link
Starting point is 01:11:49 so I can play, please. Thanks. Chuck Buyers. P.S. Why does Brian Ibbott's anus look like that? Shut up! I had her do it in her sad voice,
Starting point is 01:12:04 and I added the PS, if that wasn't obvious. It is sad. It is sad. Yeah. Do you want to answer that as far as, like, what the deal is? I'll answer the last part. I'm tired of answering the first part. You don't want to answer that anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Join Facebook. in Discord, but let's really talk about my anus. Yeah, just get in there. It's not hard. Join those things and just be in there. Yeah, no, it's a really good point. I thought, I guess we didn't put it on Twitter as well, but look, I mean, you know, we can put it on 18 different places and there'll be somebody who says, well, I don't use any of those 18 things, so I don't know what to do. Well, in the case of Discord, you don't even need an invite. You just go join. You just go, but you need, oh, yeah, with the Discord, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah, there's a link on the website. Send me an email. I'll give you a link. I don't have one in front of me or I haven't made a tiny URL or anything like that. So send me an email, Chuck Byers. Yeah, Chuck Byers. Get in there. You sound very nice. There's a reason we don't give it to Scott because he can't fill it out. That's right. That's right. I can't do it. Yeah, requested from me, Chuck. But if you want in on that Discord, it's no big deal. Just get in there.
Starting point is 01:13:08 It's free. You don't need an invite. You just, I mean, how do you find it without an invite, though? Do you just, is there a link we have anywhere? Yeah, oh yeah, on the web. Frogpants.com slash TMS. Yeah, over there has a link. You can also just go straight to the meat if you want to go to Frogpants.com slash Discord. I made one for that.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It just gets you in. Probably where we should put a link to the current Tad Pooley Feud survey. Yeah, we can put the survey there. I mean, especially if we can figure out a way to make it so it didn't change URLs every time. Right, exactly. Like make it a, so that I could do a tiny URL and just keep using the same
Starting point is 01:13:41 shortened version every time. Yeah, something that just wouldn't be easy to. to forget every month. A bunch of work, man. It's a bunch of work. It's a bunch of work. All right. Science time.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah, I like that. I mean, we got a little science about putting stuff in your weiner, but... Right. Don't be doing that, anyone. Let's see. Let's hope Bobby has something else because it would be a drag if he said I was going to talk about the same thing that Dan talked about. Yeah, we're going to talk about weiner putting things in, weaners.
Starting point is 01:14:13 All right, let's play his thing here. Here you go. Where is it right here? Science. Hey, it's science. How do I know? Because I'm looking at Bobby's handsome face. Bobby, welcome back to the show. And thanks for being here. How are you? I'm doing well. So I've got an idea for Chuck.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Do it. All right. For Chuck buyers. So here's what we do for people like Chuck who don't have, who aren't on anything. What you do, Brian, because there's no way Scott's going to follow up on this. What you do is you say, whatever. You say, hear me out before you start getting judgmental there. All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I mean, I guess I'm being judgmental first. Yeah, it's you judging. There's no way Scouts ever going to do this. Hey, don't get offended. Yeah, what the frere. So what you do is you say, here's the URL, htt,ps, colon, backslash, spack, slash, docs, dot, Google.com slash document slash d slash one lowercase. You know, and you do the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah. And that'll get them there. That's true because they just have to keep pausing their audio and typing in the next letter. Yeah, type in the next letter. If you want it bad enough, you'll get it. Now, was I wrong, Scott? You're not going to do that. You know what?
Starting point is 01:15:23 You are absolutely right. I am not going to do that. I should have waited for the full explanation before I took any offense. By the way, the computer would like to say one more thing to us. Here you go. Hold on. It's taking a second. Why?
Starting point is 01:15:37 I shouldn't take this long. Never put anything in your wing, ween. Yeah. See, don't do it. Don't put anything. Never put anything in your wing, ween, I like how she whispers it. It's almost ASMR.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Hey, Bobby, I hear the frontier is actively looking for pilots, and they're, like, willing to pay people exorbitant salaries to come be pilots for them. Have you... Is that true? Weird. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Bobby. Everyone asked me that. Do I want to be, like, an airline pilot? Yeah, would you want to be... I know you're learning how to fly, but would you want... You wouldn't want that kind of responsibility. It's not the responsibility. I think it would be fine, and it would be fine.
Starting point is 01:16:11 and I would probably enjoy it but from what I understand this the schedule is pretty demanding and with my kids like maybe if I ever like if I didn't have kids that I was had to be interested in hanging out with yeah
Starting point is 01:16:26 exactly but you have to I think and I could be wrong about this but I think for to be an airline pilot you have to be willing to be gone it's like a trucker right you got to be you got to be willing to be gone for like weeks at a time yeah so because they have pretty intense schedule you're flying somewhere you know when you sleep you're sleeping wherever
Starting point is 01:16:46 you are in a hotel for a couple hours somewhere else it may not be back home and yeah it's true yeah well so so the what is the end game for you is it just learning to fly and that's cool enough so so all i i really i just want to be able to fly like a private pilot's license is fine with me i would i probably if i can with my vision if i can get uh the medical certification that you need for a commercial license, I probably will go ahead and do that and maybe slowly work towards a commercial license just to do it. I'll already be flying and the things you learn for a commercial license I would like to learn anyway. But there's a lot of things you can do with a commercial pilot's license that's not being an... And that's actually an extra level on top of it. Being an airline
Starting point is 01:17:35 pilot, there's actually more certification you have to have on top of that. So that's a whole other category. But commercial license would be great. You can do all sorts of things with that. Is it specialized if you want to land on water and stuff? I saw a lot of those in Alaska. There are certifications for sea planes, they call them. So you have to get your seaplane certification and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Any interest in that? You want to land on the water? That would be fun. Yeah, I hear it's fun. Yeah, a little hydroplane. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, it could be like Ballou from Tailspin. Or Sully.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah, or Sully. I think Sully wasn't planning That wasn't his idea Depends on who you ask Yeah Conspiracy theories abound Here's some breaking news Right here
Starting point is 01:18:23 This Justin Bobby Frankenberger Has no interest in commercial piloting I really should have this website Removed from my life Why does he get that And I have a weird anus Why is that the way
Starting point is 01:18:35 The irony is I do have a weird anus Yeah right I don't want to know any more than that. I don't want to know anything else. Bobby, let's get to the science portion of our science segment. What is, what's going on? You're probably brewing something up for your show. So, Cher, what do you got? Yeah, you know, we talk a lot about science and how, you know, it's sort of like a prestigious institution, right? Like, people think highly of science and scientists, and they're the people who discover the new things and add knowledge to the world
Starting point is 01:19:07 and everything. So I wanted to talk about a very prestigious branch of science. which is tickle science. Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. And in particular, talk about what it is that we know about the sensation of tickling and a study that was done recently that looked into a question in the mysterious world of tickle science, which is, why can't we tickle ourselves?
Starting point is 01:19:35 Oh. Yeah, to laughter anyway. I mean, I can do a thing where... It's the same reason you can. tell a joke and make yourself laugh, right? Just because you know you're doing it, you're expecting that sensation. I make myself laugh. I laugh in my own jokes all the time. So I don't know if that's I think Brian's on the right. You're on the right. Jokes that only I hear, I roll my eyes out. I'm like, oh, Brian. You're, but Brian's, I mean, I think Brian's got a good point there. I can tell you this,
Starting point is 01:20:01 like there's a special, there's a special thing I can do where on the back of my right or left arm, if I just kind of lightly tickle it, it's just kind of relaxing. I don't know. I've got like nerve endings there or something. It's just kind of nice. When someone else does it to me, it tickles me uncontrollably and I laugh like an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. So why? Why? What's the difference? Have they figured that out? Well, so there is one prevailing theory and it does have a little bit to do with, so has a little bit to do with what you're talking, what you were saying, Brian. but do you know why scientists like do you know what the I why we tickle why do we tickle each other at all oh because we get a reaction because we get uh I don't know it's uh you know it's because you want
Starting point is 01:20:50 a reaction out of your friend your child your partner your whoever okay yeah so it's you're it's a social thing right like it involves it the the prevailing wisdom is is that it's, maybe it's disarming to people. It increases social bonding, maybe. It eases tensions, that kind of thing. Animals tickle each other. There are plenty of animals that do it. If we could tickle Putin, he'd probably be a lot nicer.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah, we'd end this conflict. Yeah, just a good tickle. It needs a good tickling. No one dares do it, though, because they'll get poison the second they do it or whatever. That's dogs. But there are plenty of animals that do it. Humans are not the only animals that do it. Like I said, chimpanzees are known to tickle each other, but also dogs and dolphins.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And rats, actually. Whenever tickling is studied, it's usually studied in rats, which is, I think, really interesting. Like, that would not be an animal that I would have first thought of when it comes to tickling. Domestic rats, I would do. I wouldn't do a wild one in the streets or whatever. I think I'll give you weird diseases. But, yeah, like, I get it. rats are often used for all kinds of I was reading about some new breakthrough cancer thing that just happened which I know very little about except it sounded exciting where they figured out how to get good cells in some organs to rush to other organs and repair damage caused by cancer which seemed like a big deal anyway once again they're seeing all the results in rats because that's kind of where you start right your baseline mice and rats right rats are easy to breed so it's it's good when we can find things that can be studied at them and and also it's probably pretty non-controversial to
Starting point is 01:22:29 tickle rats in a lab rather than... Yeah. There are worse things to do. That's true. Behind the show this pizza. Yeah. These are what are interesting, though, like this, if you ask me that this category of discussion belongs with, why do we sneeze? Why? What was the other one?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Laughter in general, period. Like, laughter is weird. It's weird that we emit this sound. And I know they study that, too, but that stuff fascinates me. Yeah. And so we've studied it in rats. We've studied, and we've looked at the neurology in rats. We've actually identified the place in rats' brains where tickle sensations or the reaction to tickling seems to come from. We also know, by the way, I think this is cool. We know that rats actually enjoy being tickled because that question might be, are they just making a noise because you're doing it or are they actually enjoying it? And they've found that when you tickle, rats, they will like if you tickle a rat and then move your hand to the other side of
Starting point is 01:23:35 like a box that it's in, it'll run towards your hand to try to get you to do it again. And that's pretty, I thought that's pretty interesting. But so the, we know it's a social kind of thing, or we're pretty sure that it's a social sort of of activity,
Starting point is 01:23:54 right? And because a lot of the animals that do it are also social animals. So to answer the question of how, there's a lot of mysteries in tickle science, which is not just why it happens, but what's going on in the brain when you get tickled. And that's what this scientist, Michael Brecht, in a Humboldt University in Berlin, was trying to figure out was what's going on in the brain specifically when we are being ticked. And so decided to do this with not just imaging or anything like that, brain imaging, but wanted to look at the question of not just some of the things we've talked about, but specifically what happens when why, you was really interested in the question of why we can't tickle ourselves and what's the reason for that. Now, Brian, you mentioned the thought of that we know we're doing it. You're expecting it. You're looking that's like, you know, you're scratching your foot. it doesn't tickle. You're just scratching an inch on the bottom of your foot
Starting point is 01:25:02 that normally if somebody else were to touch would make you jump out of your hide. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was, he wanted to tease that out. Like, have something,
Starting point is 01:25:14 does it have something to do with expectation, right? Knowing that it's coming. So he took 12 people and, and put them on a chair, had them lay down on a chair where a person would be behind them and could tickle them in various places without them seeing it coming.
Starting point is 01:25:29 and knowing which place that they were it was random they were they were looking at a like a monitor the tickler was looking at a monitor that would like show a body part randomly that they would tickle and there were five i think five different uh parts that was um feet armpits neck chin it was neck armpit lateral trunk which is the side of your body they're just being you know lateral trunk okay lateral trunk i like that uh The bottom of the foot and the crown of the head. And the crown of the head was like the control, right? Like not a ticklish area.
Starting point is 01:26:07 This is just to make sure that the experiment works. Right. So you'd be, the tickler would be behind the person. And it was really important because previous science has shown that in order to be tickled, we have to be comfortable. And it usually has to be someone that we know or that we're at least comfortable with. Right. I feel bad for the people that had to test the I don't know this guy part of the test.
Starting point is 01:26:29 you know. Did somebody have to do that when they walked up behind him? Please sit in this chair and we're going to have this man come in and tickle you. Yeah, that sounds rough. Especially if you didn't know he was behind you the whole time or whatever. I don't know. It seems crazy. But these were two people that knew each other or at least were comfortable with each other.
Starting point is 01:26:48 And they would do this. So the person would stand behind them and they pointed high-speed go-pros at the people so that they could, they could analyze their facial reactions and how quickly they happened and stuff like that. Right. So what did they find out? First of all,
Starting point is 01:27:08 interesting things, 300 milliseconds after the tickling ensued would, a facial expression would be caused, which is very fast. And then 500 milliseconds after that, vocalization, aka laughing,
Starting point is 01:27:23 would occur. Sure. And they thought that was kind of late. Because normally, when other experiments have tested how quickly we have vocal responses to touch sensation, normally it happens more like 300, 320 milliseconds after. But this happened a little bit slower than that on average. Got it. Which is just an interesting observation, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:54 So here's what they found out. They found out, first of all, if someone was tickling themselves, it would not cause, typically it would not cause any kind of tickle reaction. Does that mean there's a sum that did? Like, some of them actually laughed at the tickling. A small amount might be able to in certain spot, in certain very ticklish spots. The bottom of the feet are the ticklish spot according to them. That would freak me out if I tickled myself and laughed. I would worry about my mentality.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's very good. So most people, almost nobody could tickle themselves, very ticklish when someone else did it to you. But here's the really interesting thing was they found that they could suppress. If you were tickling yourself while someone was tickling you, it would also suppress the tickling sensation. Really?
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah. I'm going to remember this. Yeah. So if somebody is tickling you and you don't want it to be happy. then you just need to start also tickling yourself. I don't know. Where were you in the T some practical? Where were you in junior high when my idiot brother would pin me down and tickle me and I couldn't do anything about it?
Starting point is 01:29:06 I wish I'd have known this trick. Science hasn't hadn't advanced far enough yet. Stupid science. What was it? The 80s? My gosh. What a bunch of slackers. It seems like you could create a machine that randomly like basically randomly picks a place to tickle you and it's got, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:29:25 feathers or whatever, you know, at all the different spots. And you're looking away. You can't see which thing is approaching which body part. And then it goes, and then it tickles you like it would work, right? It might work. That would be great. Yeah. They should hire you.
Starting point is 01:29:37 You could help. You're kind of expecting it. Yeah, I'll do a new testicle machine. Yeah, test tickle. You could revolutionize tickle science with your tickle bot. Yeah. Tickle tester or like Brian says test tickle. Testtickle.com.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Uh-huh. Yeah, that won't be confused with anything. It'll be perfect. Do that. Don't Google it, folks. No, don't Google it. So what he thinks is going on here then is that it's not as much, it's a little bit about expectation, but he, this Brecht scientist thinks that what's happening is when we, when we know that we, so when we know that a sensation is coming, if we're, if we're touching our own bodies, then, then the brain, just globally around your
Starting point is 01:30:27 body suppresses the sensation of touch. It makes it so you are less likely to feel touch sensations when you are doing it to yourself or when you're aware of your own, like you know your own movement is causing it. And so that just globally
Starting point is 01:30:45 reduces the sensation of touch, which makes it so that when someone else is also trying to tickle you at the same time that you're doing it to yourself, it suppresses that sensation as well. well, which seems to make sense, because think about it, when you're sitting in your chair and you're moving around, you don't typically feel your tiny movements, right? Not really, unless you're purposely thinking about it, I guess, but you don't notice it and passing.
Starting point is 01:31:09 But the sensations, the sensations that you do feel are not like, are not like really sensitive sensations. It's just you can feel yourself moving in chair. But if someone were to, without you knowing it, walk up behind you and maybe tap your clothing even, not even your shoulder, but maybe like tap just your shirt, you'd probably feel that, even though it's a very small touch. And it's because you don't know that it's coming. It's also, it's kind of the princess and the pee thing, right? You're used to, whatever you're used to. Like, we develop and our brains solidify around whatever we're, what the sensations and the feelings that this body produces, unless that changes significantly, I'm going to be completely used to that in any alterations.
Starting point is 01:31:53 no matter how slight. Yeah, no matter how slight are going to make me notice, you know? Yeah. Which is its own fascinating thing, kind of. Because, you know, I guess it's a survival thing. If I know what my zone is and I'm in it, then I'm good. But the minute, like I hear a loud noise that isn't normally here or any other stimuli, visual touch, whatever, you immediately go, shit, this is different.
Starting point is 01:32:19 The tiger's going to eat me and I'm going to die. And I better get in the cave real quick kind of react. right that's what we do but why we why we laugh when somebody jabs their fingers in our ribs is just beyond me still yeah even after this conversation is still and that's the thing right because even you know what you're saying a second ago bobby is our brain says oh there's a finger coming towards the bottom my foot i'm going to lower the sensitivity of that area still still doesn't work and is that just because like that area on your bottom of your feet or your ribs even with your brain saying
Starting point is 01:32:52 all right I'm cutting off the sensation they're reducing the sensation there it's still enough to to cause a tickling sensation maybe it's because of the unpredictability of it it's that's a really good question because you're right if you know someone is
Starting point is 01:33:08 going to be tickling you it's you still feel it you still feel it and you still laugh from it but maybe your foot the nerves on your feet are there's not a direct like, this is exactly what it's going to feel like. So your brain can stop it.
Starting point is 01:33:24 There's a little bit of randomness, a little bit of, uh, oh, I know it's coming, but I don't know what it's going to feel like, uh, yeah, I think you've explained why I don't like drugs that alter sensation, because even the ones that make you feel good, they change the norm and you go, eh, this isn't normal. And it makes, makes me kind of panicky and feel like, I don't want to be here. This is weird. Like, I remember when I have my, like, the pot makes. Scott Paranoid.
Starting point is 01:33:51 That's right. I probably would be a paranoid user. Like that's probably what would happen to me. Like when I got this big chunk of skin taken out, wherever it is on this side of my neck, for what turned out to be cancerous, pre-cancerous anyway. They took it out.
Starting point is 01:34:04 This is forever ago back when I was like 29 or something. And when they did it, they gave me Percocet. I don't know. Something like that that I took home with me. And they said, just take one of these today and then see how you feel the next day or whatever while it heals.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I took half of one. Oh, Laura. Laura Tab, it was called. Sure. Took half of one of those things. And I thought I had gone to Mars and back. Like, what the F am I doing on this? Nothing felt normal.
Starting point is 01:34:29 And so then because nothing felt normal, all that stimulus felt like I was almost somebody else. And it just freaked me out. Just panicked me. I couldn't do it again. I'm like, I'll take the pain. Let's just go. Let's do the pain.
Starting point is 01:34:41 At least the pain I can recognize for what it is. This other stuff makes me feel like I don't know who I am anymore anymore. I hated that. So, anyway. You know, everyone else's experience may be different. They'd be like, oh, no, that not only helped my pain, but I slept like a baby and a bur-ber-ber-ber. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Just a different reaction, I guess. Anyway, well, there you go. Is that what you guys are doing? Like a deeper dive on the next show, or is there something else going on? No, that's just for you. Oh, that's nice. I like that. No, on our last episode of All-Around Science,
Starting point is 01:35:14 the one that just came out yesterday, me and Mora talked about volcanoes. There's this really cool, one-of-a-kind volcano that spews out black lava. Whoa. And it's in Africa, and she talked a lot about that. And I talked about how the FDA finally decided that avocados are healthy. Oh, now we've decided. And perhaps sugary cereal is not.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Oh. I don't even know what to say about this information. I do remember when I was a kid, we were told that avocados were going to, they were bad. They were clogged your arteries. Don't eat them. Yeah. Yeah. Now they're all like, things that goes back and forth, like wine and eggs, like this month, wine's good for you. This month, eggs are good for you. Oh, next month. No, it's bad. It's the first thing ever. Next thing, you know, someone's mixing their wine with their eggs with an avocado on top.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Oh, who even knows. Describing my lunch. I think he sounds all right. Avocado and eggs right now. Mm. Yeah. Egg and avocado? Sure. And a caveman. Oh, and a caveman, says the lady. So Bobby, having you on is great, but we need to find out where to go get more of you. Please tell folks where that podcast is and how to get it. It is called All Around Science, and we talk about science every week, all kinds of stuff, and you can just search for it in all the places where you search for podcasts or all aroundscience.com. Excellent. That's a great idea. Bobby Frankenberger. Have a fantastic week. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Thanks. See, Bobby. Bye. All right. There he goes. There he goes. Real quick here, wanted to remind people today at 3.30, we're doing for Halloween fun. me and Brian Dunaway are discussing all things alone in the dark, the old classic games on Play Retro.
Starting point is 01:36:54 If you have not heard of Play Retro and you like retro video games, you might like this show. We record every Tuesday for the most part. And today it's happening at 3.30 Mountain Time right here at frogpants.TV or later on the podcast, wherever you get your shows. Brian, you got anything coming up? I don't. I'm waiting for Jenny. We recorded last night, my guest on the Folkrim Feed. So we're talking about Star.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Wars music and all the history of it for everyone from, from John Williams, of course, all the way up to Ludwig Gorenson and the new, the new dude who does Andor, whose name is Escaping Nicholas Betiel or something like that. Oh, that new stuff. That Andor stuff is so good. It's so good. And, you know, there's a lot of great stuff in there, even Miko or Mecco or however it's pronounced. But, yeah, that's coming up on the full-crum feed. I will let everyone know when it's up on the feed. And, you know, whenever there's a day that we don't have TMS, you can play Scott and my guest spots on that show simultaneously, and it'll almost be
Starting point is 01:37:54 like we're doing a TMS with Jenny as the guest. Yeah. Take that AI generated podcast. Yeah. You don't need a fancy computer to do that. Just play two podcasts at the same time. I'm straight. I'd love being on there, and she's a great host, and I'm sure it was a good time. So I'm glad to hear you. You ended up on there as well. It's awesome. For sure. Who made the music from Mandalorian? That guy also very cool. Yes, that was Ludwig Gorensen. Oh, that's, you said his name. It's a hard name to remember. I think I even have that here.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Here you go. Enjoy it. I mean, it's so iconic now. So good. Hey, Mando. Yeah, hey Mando. What's up? All right, we're going to take our leave before we do a reminder of a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:38:39 The website has all the connections to everything you're looking for. So all you out there are like, where do I request songs? How do I get on the Discord? soon the feud thing all of that stuff frogpans.com slash tms if you would like to support our show patreon.com slash tms and if you'd like to email us use the email address the morning stream at gmail.com there's a the front okay the morning stream at gmail.com because someone else stole the version without it jerk also tms was not available anyway that's it for us let's get out of here with music what do you got there
Starting point is 01:39:15 dude. Yeah, sounds good. I'm copying a link right now that I'm going to send to you. Hey,
Starting point is 01:39:18 I've got a request that came in from Kevin Chu. We know him as Icor or Iker. He says, Hey, Satan and B.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Elzebub. This is a request for any day in October for Halloween. If you want a spooky song, then E.Rock's
Starting point is 01:39:33 cover of tubular bells, aka the theme from the Exorcist, is good. You'll need to bleep a word at the 136 mark or don't give the people
Starting point is 01:39:41 listening an incentive to download the episode and listen the songs. Wow. So you'll want to because it's basically audio from the movie The Exodus and Linda Blair says a very horrible thing that they used in this. What was the time? Do you give you a timestamp?
Starting point is 01:39:57 What was it again? Yes, one minute, 36 seconds. One minute, I'll just find it. Yep. Okay. So there you go. Anyway, this is great. This is E.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Rock, otherwise known as Eric Calderone, that dude that smiles and plays heavy metal guitar. his cover of the exorcist theme tubular bells from mike oldfield that that album the original album not even the exorcist but that album tubular bells that so whole side 45 minutes of that song just freaked me out as a kid oh yeah scary as well yeah also just too just that his music in general there's something about it even the stuff that's a more upbeat and chill it's like he's a he's a very unique creator he really is very cool stuff yeah and he's the original uh you know that song family man by Hall of Notes. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I'm a family man. Really? That's him? That's originally Mike Oldfield. I would have never known that. That's crazy. All right. I'll remember that next time I hear it.
Starting point is 01:40:55 There you go. All right, do that. Hey, let's get to the song. Here is the Exodus theme by E. Rock. All right. That'll live for us. We'll see you guys tomorrow for a Wednesday edition of the morning stream. What an excellent day for an exorcism.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I'm going to be able to be. The mother shuts coxswainte. Thank you. How can how it? How'd it? And so, you know, I don't know. Ha ha ha ha ha.
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