The Morning Stream - TMS 2363: What's in YOUR tube meat?

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

Bleats By Dre. Braunsweiger? Sure, I like all kinds of music. The Tell Tale Smoke Alarm. My beauty monkey hump. Look Out Demons, I've Got Balls!! The chirp is coming from inside the house. I don't like licking 9-volt battereeeeeeeees. Watching Netflix at the speed of drunk. Omnidirection Chirps. Flimmity Stickit and His Time Up the Mountain. Leggo My Eggo-nog. Not seeing anything with a penis. And the whatnot too. Not Enough Bacon! Ween didn't start the fire with Amy. Scamming scammers with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, Bleets by Dre. Braunschweiger, sure, I like all kinds of music. The taill-tale smoke alarm. My Beauty Monkey Hump. Look out, demons. I've got balls. The chirp is coming from inside the house. I don't like licking 9-volt batteries.

Watching Netflix at the speed of drunk. Omni-directional chirps. Flibbitty stick it and his time up the mountain. Such a good book. Lego, my ego-nog. Not seeing anything with a penis. And the what-not, too. Not enough bacon.

Wean didn't start the fire with Amy. Scamming Scammers with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Many have seen the new fad going around today called Pokemon Go. You go around on your phone and you look for these little monsters. And suppose they're hiding in certain places and you can find them through your phone. That sounds weird. That Pokemon Go game is allowing people. to see into the spirit world and they have animated demons and oh don't they look so cute on your phone

I've had the nervous poops all week It's Thursday, October 13th, 2022. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian David. Hi, Scott. I'm seeing what demons I have available to me now right now that I can see in the spirit world. Oh, my gosh, everybody. Beware. It's a teddy ursa. What? It's the demon that looks like a teddy bear. Oh, my gosh, with the long occult symbol of the moon on its head.

That's right. You know, which tells. Oh, my gosh. There's also the demon that looks like a sheep with. beats by Dre headphones on it. Oh, no. Who's the sheep now? Oh, no. Oh, no. Watch out, demons. Yeah, look out, demons. I've got balls.

Yeah, look out. I got these. You wear, demons. I've got brightly colored white and red balls. Yes. Welcome to the show, everybody. We're glad to be here. It's the end of our broadcast week for a little bit of you. Some of you are going to watch us on couch party tomorrow, but that's right. Boy, are you going to watch us? that is true so a couple things want to get out of the way here yesterday somebody sent me this tweet i got to share this uh so it's basically it was the back of a bus and here's what it says i can't love should jesus wean replace halloween jesus wean dot com a christian gift giving festival

august 31st okay now i'm not saying well when i first thought i thought maybe this isn't real or this is just a joke or something yeah yeah right no it's real it's real there really is a jesus wean yeah and it's a legit like thing that's happening uh they're actually having a i got a stupid much little daisies make them come up their website doesn't format right it's weird anyway uh jesus wean aka world evangelism day is a global christian gift giving festival a season to share the gospel and god's love to all mankind jesus wean com now and they're all over the place

like they've got like actual reviews from stuff they've got places like Time Magazine the Huffington Post vice or whatever where they talk about these things it's a legit thing I just want to know who at what point sat down and said we should call this Jesus

ween and nobody said anything right everybody like they were so they were so focused on the fact that it was oh it's replacing how Halloween. We've replaced the word hallow with Jesus. There's nothing else that we need to. We don't need to expand this thought any further because all of it is contained right in that replacing Halloween with Jesus wean. We're great. Everything is set. We're done. Yeah, that's how you do it. Don't print up the t-shirts and the banners, everybody. It's like Festivus and Christmas. You kind of got the us at the end, you know? Right. You know, I get it. I see what they're doing. And nobody once went, oh, wean. Okay. We're that short for Weiner. Okay. here's what I think people did and didn't say anything that's what I think you think so

yeah they're in their big you think there's some like rebels in the in the group who are like oh yeah let's see how hey bill let's see how far this thing totally dude they're in some big church meeting right somebody brought pizza it's late at night they're like well we kind of there's so few URLs anymore we need to pick one somebody just pick one how about jesus wean and they go oh that's brilliant and then he goes no way i'm serious i was kidding that's joke it's like it's like you do see what that looks like right You just say that last bit by itself. Yeah, search ween.

What do you get? Let's see. Ween. I'm looking it up. Okay, I just did a search for Ween. There's a band I forgot called Ween. Yeah, there's a great band called Ween. Yeah, American rock band.

Led by Gene and Dean Ween. I guess that's what you would have found. Well, maybe they would only found that and not, you know, went, okay, we're clear. I can't believe that you did a search, you know, I'm not going to do it. I don't want that in my search results, but you just did a search. search for wean and and just the band came up just the band in fact when i did an image search oh wow are you brave i know and i turned off uh safe search safe search so i've got safe search off all i get is the band that's it that's amazing good on their SEO man i you're not kidding uh i'm blown

away we wean SEO on fire yeah there's the photos look at yeah nothing but ween band i'm scroll on just to see if I missed anything. That was gross. No, nothing. I'm looking close to see if some of the pictures of the band wean shows their actual ween. Oh, that could be. Like if, uh, behind, uh, under their guitars. But no, no, no, it looks like, uh, yeah. For some reason, Billy Joel's in these results. I don't know what that's about. But there's no, I'm, I'm, I am scrolling. I'm about eight pages in. No penises. It's the song, you're the piano ween. Wien. Wieness a song to ween. Now I'm getting into things that are like Halloween, but I'm not seeing anything with a penis.

that's fantastic I'm breaking my brains for a better Billy Joel replaced the word wean in the title of one of his songs It's hard man

It's hard Moving out no Just the way you are We're getting there Just the wean you are Okay we're getting there We're close We're getting there

Town wean Not bad, not bad That's not bad River of Wines Yeah In the middle of the life How about a wean kind of No, a new wean kind of...

What's the New York song? I'm in New York State of Mine. I'm in a New York State of Ween. That's not bad. It's not bad. Not bad. Anyway, if you want to learn more about the alternative festival, Jesus Ween.com. Also, question for you.

Yeah. Oh, gosh. Wow. Yeah. This is early for a question. Let me take a sip of coffee. Yeah, take a coffee sip. Let me see if I can find it.

I'm going to try to find the sound itself. So, here, hold on. Weans from an Italian restaurant. See, that's great from the title. He never actually sings, scenes from an Italian restaurant of a song. But I do like that. Weens from an Italian restaurant. It's pretty good.

It's pretty good. Okay, so listen to this sound. Okay. Play it. Here we go. Okay. You know the sound. Yeah.

That's the sound of a battery. The battery needs to be changed in one of your smoke detectors. Correct. now we had one go bad fine whatever well what we've been doing is when they've decided to poop out we were actually replacing the entire thing with a bulk a bunch of these that we bought at Costco on sale because they are all older and suck and we want to put these newer like trackable ones in there and all that but we're just kind of doing it piecemeal as they go down sure and uh one of them was going off yesterday found it eventually it's all good but i have questions about how this all came to be. And I don't know if we're going to get good answers here. I know there's some people out there in like home security and home stuff in general that we'll write in and probably clear things up.

But here's my question for you anyway. Yeah, sure. Who do you think decided the way, okay, here's how they thought this should be handled. These are battery operated. Okay, cool. You know what would be good for these to truly help people stay safe. They need to go off when there's smoke. Beep, beep, beep, beep.

Okay, that's perfect, Bill. No problem. That's exactly what you want to put in there. How about when the battery runs out and they look over at Steve and Steve says, well, what if we made it intermittently without being able to tell how long between each one of them? What if we had a tiny ear piercing chirp so that at three o'clock in the morning or whenever it starts losing its battery? It wakes people up, but then they have to wait until they hear it again. To figure out where it's covering from.

I think it was down that way. right and then make sure and then Steve says make sure it's a chirp that throws itself all over the place and doesn't actually direct you to the one that's going dead who did that yeah yeah here's my thinking on that because we've talked before about how why don't they put some sort of little voice chip in there that says battery depleting or you know battery almost out because my headphones do that yeah or just to go you know some kind of bonged yeah just a little lower it's down battery has gone lower the chirp takes the chirp takes probably the least amount of battery power to do so if

I just heard it oh that was that you playing it but see how would you know you can't even tell was that from this for me I heard it and I went oh no another one's going dead I knew it wasn't from my house

I knew it came from my headphones so I knew it was either you playing it or I just wanted your house going off. Sure. But, no, my guess is, purely a guess, is that the amount of juice it takes to make a chirping sound is far less.

And it can make that sound for a longer period of time to give you ample warning that your battery is about to die than a voice chip, which might, you know, maybe have a week less of warnings. And if you're in an office building where everybody's gone for a week, oh, We're going, we're taking a hiatus and closing the shop for a week, and we come back and the batteries are dying on your smoke alarms. Voice chip, you know, they might all be dead already, and you'd have no idea. Oh, I see. That makes sense.

You know, the chirping might give it an extra a week or two of being able to make noise. Now, why a chirp and why not another sound? Yeah, just anything. Electronics person probably would be able to tell you that better, but it might be, again, that to have. to have a speaker that can make that noise would take less energy than a speaker and something that makes a much less ear piercing sound. Yeah. And that makes perfect sense to me. Everything you just said actually is

probably the answer. However, it's not enough. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It's like trying to find water in a desert. It was like where is this freaking thing? I know it's in this room. And then we'd all go to, we had three of us standing in three different places. And then finally one went off and I think Carter's like,

I think it's in here. And I'm like, really? Because it sounded like it was down there. There's a, there's a rattle that sometimes happens in my car. Like if I'm going on the right kind of road or whatever the right conditions are,

and there's this like, like a really high, not high pitch, but higher pitch than I'm able to make the sound. Sure. And Teenel B, driving and I said, could you figure out what that is? I think it's coming from there. And she's like, no, it's coming from in front of you. And we're both like, you know,

pointing in opposite directions as far as where the sounds coming from. And finally, I figure out that, oh, it's the garage door opener that's on my visor, the little metal bracket that holds it onto my visor. It's pulled out a little bit so it's not a firm, secure connection. And so it's just rattling the, uh, that would drive me that, that would drive me. Claire is laughing because I said pulled out a little bit. but yeah it's causing that garage door open or thing to rattle but it's funny how those sounds right you can be in in such close proximity to it and still think it's coming from a different direction yeah i don't like that when that happens and i think the higher pitch or the or the more brief or

maybe the more i don't know i don't know what the quality of the sound is but something that throws itself all over the place like that that is not efficient it's horrible and you're just making for a rough night, so I don't like it. Speaking of noisy... Yeah, Iowa Cow says they use Piazo speakers, which can only produce high-pitched sounds, so if that's... Okay, so then, so you'd have to have

some alternative in there that was like a separate little speakery soundy thing, and so you're right. This starts to become cost prohibitive. Yeah, although they've got to have some sort of rechargeable business. Oh, yeah, well... Because they're already plugged in, and that battery is just in there as a backup.

Oh, is that true? Ours or not? Well, the one I've replaced is it's not wired into the house but ours are wired into the house oh so you're still go off smart to have some sort of rechargeable right um right right right yeah why can't the the the the what is it what's the battery called that's a nine volt nine volt square so one if you lick it ton ticklers yeah the ton i i hate freaking hate those seriously you could almost somebody could say to me scott what's worst what's the worst torture waterboarding in a foreign country in the dark, or

licking this 9-volt battery. I think I'd say the 9-volt battery because I hate it so much. Really? Just thinking about it. I mean, obviously, I'm obviously over-exaggerating here, but I do not like licking those things.

Yeah. Yeah. Claire says, wait, your fire alarms are wired into your house. Why does it need a battery at all? Just in case of a power outage. Like, if the power goes out due to a fire, especially fire somewhere else in the neighborhood, you want that smoke alarm to work, do its thing.

Yeah, and maybe the thing would be to get a bunch of 9-volt rechargeables and just rotate those out every once in a while, you know? You could. Here's the problem with rechargeables, and somebody definitely can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I get the feeling that those deplete faster than regular batteries. You recharge them, you know, but I think they lose their juice faster. Yeah, the chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight.

weird that that's come up twice now this week that song yeah no kidding oh that for whatever reason bed knobs reminds me of bed knobs and broomsticks and the passing of uh of murder she wrote angela lansberry that's a sad one i she was nice very nice lady miss's pots yes mrs pots with her her whole uh let's get the place ready and the candle and the clock and whatnot uh huh hey uh you were talking about my favorite song my favorite song by the way from beading the beast is let's get this place ready with the clock With the candle and the clock and the whatnot. Yeah.

And then you got Winchester and the guy from Law and Order singing. It's great. It's an amazing movie. Come on in. Come on in. We're getting everything ready for you. With the clock and the candle and the what not to. And the what not two.

Did our best. Eat our best. Anyway, hey, you know, Hungary has one of those roads. You were talking about road noise. Yeah. Hungary has a road where they play. music when you drive over the little rough parts. Oh, yeah, the little, like the one in Nevada or Arizona.

Oh, is there? I didn't know that. Yeah, there's one here that does the William Till Overture. Oh, well, let's see what Hungary's doing. I'm going to play theirs. Let's see what we get here. There's even a music sign on the road before you hit it. Like a little music note. Okay, now he goes, no, almost. Okay, here it is. It's taking forever. Here we go. Do you recognize that? I don't.

No, it's some sort of Hungarian sound? No, I do not. Maybe it's their national anthem or something? I don't know. It's pretty cool, though. Lancaster, California. Is that the one with the William Till Overture? Cap Kipper just put a link in the chat.

Oh, here it is, Lancaster, California. All right, I'm going to go over the... I'm going to hear this guy talk about it. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Exactly. That's the speed limit. 35. Okay.

Okay. And hopefully the engine... All right, we're at about 55. My gosh, dude. Here it is. About 55 miles an hour, maybe 57. The musical road in Lancaster. I'm going to say Hungry did it better.

I'm just going to say. I think so, yeah. I think that guys drive at the wrong speed because it's like a half note high. And also, just if you're on YouTube, just you don't have to explain it. We know. Right. It's in the description. You don't have to go on for 10 minutes.

I jump halfway. Or, yeah, just say, here's the Lancaster, California musical road. And begin. They say the biggest lie YouTubers tell is this phrase. All right. Now, let's get right to it. Oh, I think the biggest lie is a lot of people have asked me. Yeah, that's a bigger line.

Yeah. Night night. You're right. You're right. It's like, no, you wanted to make this video. Nobody asked you to make this video. No one is like beaten down your door saying, hey, could you please make a video explaining, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yep. And all to YouTube videos, they start with, hey guys, and all TikTok videos start with the word so. They always go. They always go. So, apparently. Here's her impersonation of a kid who's late for school talking to his mom. I'm late for school

Yeah I hate how right you are Gosh dang it Yeah yeah Gosh dang it I've only seen Like if you added up the time I've spent in TikTok

I'd say it's still less than half an hour Yeah That's good for you It's usually the ones I send you And then you're out That's exactly right Yeah The ones you send me

And I'm hoping that you send me Enough to set my algorithm So I never see another one Of those other ones again Yeah I'll be music And a couple of comedy things And that's it Yeah God

The worst one are the people who who lip sync a comedy bit. Oh, yeah, I hate that. Like, oh, here's a Brian Regan joke I really like, but I'm going to mouth it or act it. I hate it. Yeah, can't stand that. I also don't like the people that are going to show me a list of two or three things

like celebrities you didn't know had beards or whatever. And they always start the video with text up here that's artificially put there by the app when you make it. And they go, like this with their finger. I hate that. so much. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, moving on.

Here's, uh, I got an email that we need to read. And, uh, it goes like this. Send and receive email. This is M-Hump 23. M-Hump, 23. My hump, ma-hump, ma-hump, my hump, ma-hump. My beauty monkey hump. How's that song go?

What did it do? My lovely lady loves, which is just as bad as what you said. Not my beauty monkey hump. It's not that. Not my beauty monkey hump, but that's our, I think you've just said our show title. Fantastic. I don't know if anybody's going to be able to come up with anything better than that. Well, here's what M. Hump 23 says.

It says, I just finished listening to yesterday's TMS. So I wish I could have been live to voice my opinion about the two things you guys were so opinionated about. I remember as a kid, I couldn't eat it. It's talking about Bronschweger. Bronshager. Yeah. I remember as a kid, I couldn't eat it because it stunk. I was not a picky eater, by the way.

I decided to see what was in Bronschweger. and here's what I found was in commercial Bronschweiger. A typical commercial formula is about 40% pork liver or scalded beef liver. Yum. I don't know how they choose, which is whatever's on hand, I guess. I guess you whatever they can reach. Yeah. Whatever's whatever's in reach.

That's great. Yeah. 30% scalded pork jowl. Okay. 20% lean pork trimmings. Okay. 10% bacon ends and pieces. Okay.

Added seasonings include salt. often included white pepper onion powder chopped onion and mace what's mace uh seasoning is it never heard of it yeah it's not is that what they spray in the face is that the mace oh you know i don't know i never made that connection is that what's in like pepper spray like it's a mace the yeah when they say mace is that what they mean i don't know maybe we're about to learn something here we are about to learn something yeah same thing same plant okay thanks you've never made that connection about the uh because we've we've gone to calling it pepper sprayer i remember when we called it mace like back when people first using it sure now i never i never heard it anymore i only hear

pepper you're right yeah yeah it's the same plant as black pepper interesting all right did not know that i'm going to ask kim for more mace in my tomato soup next time more mace uh so he says 40% liver 30% throats 10% bacon 20% pork trimmings none of us want to know what are in commercial pork trimmings, let's just say they are gross. He says, okay, what's an American cheese? Well, cheese is about 80 to 90% cheese. It was invented in the early 20th century

by J.L. Kraft, who developed the process of taking cheese and adding milk butter and some type of salt to make a mild or easier melting cheese. Talking about American cheese. Yes. He uses mainly mild cheddar and sodium citrate for its salt, both of which you eat and enjoy and quite often, or you eat and enjoy quite often,

whether you will admit it or not, makes the best I admit I eat cheese or cheddar cheese, sure. Sure, I ate some cheddar. Why not? Makes the best nachos, the best mac and cheese. It usually mix with other cheeses and adds unique flavor of its unique melting properties, which can be a catalyst for other harder-to-melt cheeses to melt. So basically what he's saying is he's calling us out saying, you're all worried about

what's in American cheese, but you're not at all worried about throats and liver and bacon ends and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, to clarify, it's lean. pork trimmings, lean pork trimmings, not fatty pork trimmings. That's right. Lean throat. Lean throat's.

Yeah, my throats are 100% meat. And let's not gloss past the 10% bacon. That's a good amount of bacon right there, 10% bacon. Pretty good. Zoe, what do you think of that amount of bacon? I know our chat room is 10% bacon, I think. Yeah, something like that. Our titles at the end of the show are definitely 10% bacon.

But anyway, you know what? I mean, I'm still going to try it for the show, but I'm not. going to get like regular i'm not going to go regular with bronchwager not doing that yeah but i'll eat it for the show you know and i tried we did try to find some we ended up with some pepperoni sticks thing because kim thought well maybe he just needs this meat in a stick and i'm like no no no it has to be bronchwager because you know this is the whole thing with the show so anyway we'll find it swiger sorry yeah i keep saying schwager it's schweiger schweger brown schweiger by the way my so my favorite story i was i alluded to this the other day we were talking about

about this and I said, oh, remind me I have a funny story about Brunschweger. I never got to it. Oh, do it now. Yeah. My mom and my uncle and my mom's friend Beverly and I went up to Estes Park. We brought lunches or we brought a big cooler with some sandwiches that we made. And we found a place in the park up in Estes Park, which you think is like, isn't the whole thing a park? No, it's Estes Park is a city and there's a couple parks in the city. And we open up the cooler and we asked Beverly, hey, Beverly, do you like Bronschweiger? And she goes, I like all kinds of music.

Really? That really happened? That really happened. 100% happened. Well, look, you know, I mean, when you're talking about the classics, you got to think of Bronschweiger and is amazing. That's right. I mean, Beethoven, Bach, Bronshweiger, it's, you know, there it is. There it is.

That's fantastic. So, all right. There you have it. You know what? If we get it, we'll do it. Brian's got some. I just got to get some. I've got some Brunsweiger. And I need, I should look at the ingredients on that one because it's a, it's a deli Bronchweger. It's not the Oscar Meyer garbage. Yeah. And, and, you know, no offense to Oscar or Meyer or any of those people, but

look, you're, you're cheap, okay? That's right. Exactly. You're not doing the fancy bits. Yeah, you're fine. You're fine for what you are, but I wanted something a little bit higher end than just a Oscar Meyer tube, oh, meat paste. Yeah. And for all we know, you didn't. get a throat or a tip or whatever. Who knows? I haven't opened the package

yet. I bought it and I was like, oh, should I just save this? Maybe we'll eat on the show, but like I said, I already ate breakfast. I don't want to... I'm not going to make a brunch or your sandwich right now. No, don't be doing that. My wife got barrels of apples and has been making applesauce and apple juice for the last three days.

Where did she get barrels of apples? Her sister has a bunch of trees and they never do anything with it. They just pile up and rot usually. So this year she's like, hey, do you want to come get these? And because they don't, They're perfectly ripe and ready to go, but because they don't treat them, on the one hand, they're very natural, but also you got to cut them open before you do anything with them and see if they've been infiltrated. And sure enough, there's some with like half an earwig in there or like a worm or whatever. So anyway, Kim went, cut all those apples open, cut all the bugs out, if there were any, washed it all, boiled them up, made half applesauce.

If I'm honest, her main motivation is babies love applesau, so she's making Phoebe some applesau. but also a whole bunch of like juice and then she made jams last night apple jam oh man dude you don't even know it's so good dang nice so if anyone you know comes around and goes what's that smell it's all the apples man it's apples how you like them apples how you like yeah how you like them apples what what form would you like it in would you like some liquid apple would you like some viscous I love a good a good homemade apple sauce is the best it's like chunkier than

the stuff you get in the store. Yeah, bring it on. I love it on. I love it. I also want more now that we're talking about it. Okay, let's get Amy in here. Did I just hear your alarm go off again? Yeah, it's amazing you can hear that.

That was ours, not the video. Yeah, yeah. And we can't find the second one that started up after we got the other one yesterday, and I don't know where that one is. So the hunt continues. Oh, geez. And it sucks. All right.

All right. Although, I will say this, the house was built in 07. I'm pretty sure these are still those, these are the ones, those are just now going bad or beeping. So, you know, I can't complain that much. What is that? No. 10, 12, 15 years. I mean, those things, I keep carrying it.

Gosh, dang it. Kim, find that thing and kill it. I'm so annoyed. That's usually you should have to replace. the machines it's just the batteries yeah but we're just putting in smart ones so we can track them that's right i remember we were looking for those last time we talked about yeah i like smart stuff so i'm gonna do that like this i like smart stuff too me too i like smart people thankfully this music indicates a very smart person is joining us now even though most of her state and local politics are a giant weird joke and i cannot figure out

what's going on him georgia no kidding but um amy's not the problem she's here with us talking about reading and stuff. Hello, Amy, welcome back. Oh, you're very low, very quiet. Quiet, but you can adjust you. Okay, well, there you go. Much better. Is that better? Yeah. Better and no clipping.

Yeah. Yay. Okay, good. I've been messing with the levels and stuff, trying to make sure I wasn't crunchy this week. Well, you sound real good right now. All good. All good. All right. Fantasticly done. And by the way, ween didn't start the fire. Pretty good. Pretty good.

Yeah. You know what? That's pretty good. good because you just add an extra e-in-and-end and you're good. Yeah, and really, a wean would probably be putting out the fire if you know what I mean. Oh, yeah, Brian. Well, I mean, if a wean has a fire, then there's, you know, you need to see your doctor. Oh, geez, yeah. Yeah, if your ween's on fire. Sure.

Persist for more, if your wean's on fire for more than four hours, see a doctor. Then your whine is probably gone after four hours. Anyway, speaking of weans, not really. You brought some reading material, weaning, you're going to wean ourselves off of social media and start reading a book is what we're going to do yes that would be an excellent thing to do i agree um kind of sticking with a little bit of a Halloween kind of a thing there's some supernatural creepy things going on with us but it's creepy at my level you guys know i don't do i don't do super scary so yeah sorry for all of you who are waiting for me to you know

recommend horror stuff for Halloween do you have a you have a horror book or movie that um you consider to be just so scary you hope you never see it again type thing that just really so many but um yeah like the the one that scarred me i think the worst was uh when a stranger calls oh interesting that all that the one the blind thing yeah the blind woman the house and the calls are coming from inside the house yes that carol thing 2006 is this the one they may have remade it um freaking literally i mean i saw it when i was in like seventh grade and but It was, I was like the scariest freaking thing I ever saw. Mostly because I was a, you know, I was a Gen Xer, so I was a latchkey kid.

So I spent a lot of time in my house by myself. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. That's almost, that thing's almost an MCU movie. This thing had Tessa Thompson, Clark, uh, Greg in it. God, no kidding. Yeah, look at all these. And, uh, agent, uh, Colson, yeah.

Colson. Oh, is that the, the remake? Cooper has the, I know, like, that's the remake. Yeah, this is probably the remake. That is the totally the newer one. It's probably not as good if I had to guess. I have no idea because I won't watch it. Let's see, 1979 was the original.

You're right. You said Carol King. Who was the other one? Oh, Carol Kane rather. Charles Durning. He was a man. Charles Derning's great. Oh, he is great.

Dune is our big Charles Durning movie. Oh, right. He was. He's Harkonan. Baron Harkon. I always forget that. him because I just think of him as dude who's in all the Cohen brothers movies. Oh, right. Yeah, because he was

Cyclops and, uh, oh my gosh, that's a cyclops and no brother worth that or the one eyed guy and yeah, yeah. No, wait, that was. Or is that John Goodman? Oh, you're right. I'm sorry, it was John Goodman. Yep. Who played? Totally was. Oh, he was papio Daniels something drink or whatever the hell. I got to watch that movie again. He's so good. Anyway, he's the one that jumped off the table in

hud sucker proxy and died that's the guy but but also was visited by an angel on the way down that's right and he just died well he died in 2012 so it's been a while all right uh let's get back to the thing here let's talk about your scary book what do you what do you got for us yeah yeah so um this one again it's it's kind of in the same vein as the one for last week so it's uh appropriate for probably your older kids like you know teenagers and whatnot could read this but i wouldn't i wouldn't go for it with like a younger kid but you go ahead and play the clip all right here we go worse still the ditch of water we were crossing was treacherous a notorious ship swallower eight and a half kilometers of moody changeable sea its floor fanned with greening wrecks and sailor's bones

and lurking somewhere in the fathom's deep darkness our enemies those of us who worried about such things assumed the whites were nearby, somewhere below us in that German submarine, waiting. If they didn't already know we'd fled the island, they'd find out soon enough. They hadn't gone to such lengths to kidnap Miss Peregrine, only to give up after one failed attempt. The warships that inched along like centipedes in the distance and the British planes that kept watch overhead made it too dangerous for the submarine to serve. in broad daylight but come nightfall we'd be easy prey they would come for us and take miss peregrine and sink the rest so we rode our only hope that we could reach the mainland before nightfall reached us wow yeah what is who is this what is this so this was a clip from the the second book in the series of uh Miss Peregrine's Peculiar Children.

The first book in the series is called Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children. And that might sound a little familiar because it was a movie. They made it into a movie. My understanding is the movie's not great. And everybody that I talked to was like, skip the movie, read the book. Exactly. I didn't read the book, but I could tell you to skip the movie. Yeah.

But yeah, the books are. actually really good and engaging. I read the entire five book series, and I imagine they were probably trying to keep like a lower, like a PG rating, and there's some stuff described in the book that's pretty gory, honestly. It's, it's, that's, it's a little scary and they probably couldn't, they probably couldn't be really true to the story and keep a, keep a PG rating. So, oh, this is a Tim Burton movie.

I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know he directed it. Anne Hathaway, is that right? Eva Green's, Eva Green. Eva Green. Eva Green, Eva Green, Eva Green, Samuel L. Jackson, Judy Dench, Alison Janney, Terrence Stamp.

We just watched him do a thing. Chris O'Dowd. I love this cast, but it's reviewed okay, but I'm guessing like all things, the books are always better, you know? Yeah, and I was actually disappointed that, you know, the movie wasn't better with that cast because I love, when I love me some Allison Janney. Yeah. She's a Lord overall she surveys. I love her. She's awesome. So, so I'm seeing all six books here. Which, which book is it that, uh, are you recommending the series? Yeah, you want to start with Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children. Uh, the, the clip that I played was from, oh, shoot, I fail. Um, Hollow City. That was the, it was the second one. Hollow City is the second one. Gotcha. Um, and I just picked that one because I'm, I'm basically recommending the whole series. They, they, they, they, they, they, read as an entire story arc, you know, it's, there's pretty cliffhangery at the end of the first

book. So you're going to just want to continue on into all of the books. They, it's more like, you know, large chapters, you know, are each book. So, uh, so yeah. And I just, I liked the sample from Hollow City better because I, it sounded creepier. And I like the way that was read. Somebody in the chat said that sounded too slow, but I like, I like the cadence of what I just heard. I don't sound really good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think Stephanie was saying she listens to audio books on, on double speed.

I cannot do that. Mostly because everybody's voice sounds like this. Yeah. I can't, I bet that, I can't do it. Especially if there's like a scene where you're supposed to be like all solemn or something. And then the person in the background is going, and they fell in love in that moment. And then it's like, dude, it's like a 1920s freaking newsreel. They're not going to be open the door.

I can't do that. Look, hats off if you can do it, folks. I get it. And podcasts, I get it. Well done. I don't know how you freaking do it.

I can't do it. Anyway. I can't either. Would you watch a movie at twice the speed? No, although I know that somebody has that option. Netflix does, yeah.

They can speed it up. I wonder what that sounds like. Pardon me while I disrobe. Yeah. Brian's a little. Ryan's running hot. For all of us in the chat. That's right.

You know what I'm going to do. I am going to actually. I had a tape player when I was growing up, and it played just a little too fast. And then whenever I would hear the song on the radio, it sounded wrong. And, you know, that just kind of put me off listening to things at a different speed because all the, all the music that I had, you know, when I was, I was a kid. Like, I mean, we're talking like six, seven years old and I stole my sister's copy of, you know, the go-go's and thriller and stuff. But it was playing on this little tape player that played everything just a little too fast. And then when I heard it, I was like, whoa, everybody's voices, this doesn't sound right.

It would sound like it was in a slightly lower key and everybody's voices were in slightly lower key and it was slightly slow. It just sounded weird. So I was like, I can't listen to stuff that's sped up. Same. Listen to this. So I'm going to play just a tiny bit of National Lampoon's Vacation at Netflix's 1.5 speed. That's as fast as they let you go. Okay, all right.

And then we'll hear it on their 0.5 half speed. I wonder if YouTube will, uh, will YouTube have a problem with this if it's sped up? I doubt it. That's what we're going to find out. So here we go. Oh, well, she came to help out when Eddie ruptured his spleen and she's been with us ever since. Let me turn this up. She wanted to go back to Phoenix a year ago, but Eddie wouldn't let her.

Frankly, no, there's stills of security. We never be able to live like this. Okay. This would drive me up a tree. Okay. Because I'm the best kiss her. Now, now I'm going to go to, I'm going to go to half speed. Let's see what that does.

Cheekath. Looks like you've really got your hands full. It's like everything's drunk. Like it's a... Now, that's what I want to... I don't want to... Look, I'm sure there's somebody's going to say, I have a condition that means I can only hear things at half speed.

I'm not making fun of anyone when I say this. Who is that for? Yeah. Other than our amusement. It's the... It really is. It's the Veronica sausage. level. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go globally set that on my wife's

profile. So anything she watched is going to be like, something's wrong with the Netflix. Great prank. Love it. I'm going to do it. Don't tell her anyone. Carter. So she's watching Bridgerton and everyone's talking. It's like, you're beautiful. I'm into that. All right. Let me remove your corset. Slow-motion sex scenes. Wait, maybe now I understand. Oh, that would be suits. There we are.

I'm putting that on 1.5, baby. Anyway, let me ask you this. Harry Potterish, this story, would you say? I mean, I always feel like these young adult novels that are around that era where it's like, flimity stick it in his time up the mountain or whatever. You're always like, oh, another Harry Potter rip off. Okay, here we go. It's not.

No, it's, I would say, if you've watched Umbrella Academy, it has more of that kind of feel to it it's uh it's you know kids with strange abilities and you know so it's it's that kind of it's got that tone to it uh tim burton was absolutely well who i would choose to direct that maybe i'm so disappointed that it was bad but um you know it that it that would absolutely be the right choice because it's got kind of that that that grayish sort of feel to it it doesn't have the you know, la la, la, la, here's my, my white owl and my wand and, you know, definitely fits with the typical Tim Burton nightmare on Elm or nightmare before Christmas kind of vibe.

Has anybody seen, is that, that Wednesday thing hasn't started yet, hasn't? No, but man, the latest, the trailers, it just looks so good. Yeah, he directed, produced, I don't know if he directed in those episodes, let's see. Yeah, he directed all of them. Okay. God, this should be coming out any time now, because you'd think you'd want that for Halloween for October. Yeah, I would think so.

He's just had a weird, he's had a weird run lately, though. So he did that, let's see, um, is it big eyes? No, no, no. What is it? Not Frankenweeney. So I get, I feel like the last big deal he did was the Sweeney Todd movie, which was 07. Everything since then, it's just like, oh, man, what are you doing there, dude?

Yeah. Anyway, everybody go watch. Maybe he just had a contract and he's just like, you know, dialing it in for, you know, to meet whatever. contract he has with some studio. Maybe. I think he peaked with Big Fish in my opinion. I love that movie. I also love that movie. That is a fantastic movie. Making me want to watch that. You make me want to watch Allison Janie things. That's what I feel like right now is watching West Wing for the seventh time in a row. And of course it makes us want to read Mrs. Peregrins home for peculiar

children. Nice bringing it back, dude. That's perfect. It was a Dunaway level, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. You've freaking leveled up on that. Say the title. Yeah. Say the title. title. Christine's probably all mad at the car. Indeed. Well, this is great. Go check it out.

Available wherever books are sold, including all the audiobooks. And then after you're done, maybe watch the movie, see if it lives up to your expectations or not. Probably won't, sounds like. But yeah, definitely there's,

in the very beginning, when the main character figures out that he has some kind of weird ability, it's that he can see really gross, gory creatures, and they describe it in detail. So it's definitely not Harry Potter. Right.

Right. And we can't have that. You know, we can't have more Harry Potter. No, maybe we could. I don't know. You think, hey, look, if she, let's say she comes around on some of her issues. Okay. Let's just say, oh, you know what?

Let's do that. Here's my hypothetical. Let's pretend for a moment, just for a second, that JK rolling, rowling, whatever. Rolling. rolling is there's none of this controversy okay let's say it doesn't exist with her just for a second we live in a whatever alternate universe where none of that happened do we want new harry potter books like where he's old and stuff do we want that you know like oh harry potter's now um of 45 he's now an instructor at hogworts and here's the new generation of of witches and wizards that

he's teaching we got an overwhelming know in the chat they kind of attempted that with the fantastic Beast's movies and like eh those are pretty movies those movies put me to sleep like I can I can get up from a full night's rest and start watching fantastic beats so we're to find well I'll still fall asleep yeah they're very in the theater for the first two and I'm like well I guess I could go for another nap you want to see the third one Tina want to just keep sleeping keep putting those on forget about uh forget about uh pills and out of van just I don't even need the CPAP for those movies man it's Yeah. I would, so that's, I mean, like, if they'd have done a proper, instead of sequels, would we have liked, or sorry, instead of prequels, would we like sequels? And I don't know if the answer is yes or no. I don't know what we want.

You're the chirping of the background. I wonder if you can even hear it anymore. Oh, I can hear it. I hate it. But I'm just getting, I guess I'm getting used to it, which I didn't think was possible. My gosh, Kim, find that thing. There is some percentage that is non-zero of, like, domestic violence calls that are caused by. that chirping yeah oh i was wondering what's the way you're going with this like yeah like i was talking about uh people insane and that it is like there's there's some kind of there is a non-zero percentage of police calls where there's a domestic disturbance because somebody is ripping their house yeah look all it would take is somebody high on i don't know meth and and then this chirping's happening and one person says they can hear it and the other hasn't before there's a murder you know someone's going to kill somebody it's like it feels like there's been movies about stuff like that with uh you know one character it's the telltale it's the telltale smoke alarm is what it is

yep that's awesome that's it i love it uh well anyway can you chat room can you guys hear it when brian hears it or is it just brian who hears it and me obviously i hear it because i'm in the room but i wonder if anyone else you know else can hear it if so i apologize i don't think there's a way to take it out of the audio um maybe maybe it's okay it's not it's it's only Only like, I just hear it. It's not like it's annoying or distracting like it would be if it was in my own house. Yes. You'd want to break something.

Wow, yeah, the chat room doesn't hear it. So let's hear it for Discord and the audio quality. Love it. Or. I can hear it also, but we're on the same call. Maybe Brian has extra special awesome hearing. Maybe both of you do. Maybe both of you can hear better than me.

It's almost like we're the peculiar children in Mrs. Perkins' home for peculiar children. Mailed it. All right. Try not to forget the name, you guys. Go check it out. And, Amy, it's always fun having you on. I hope we can do this again very next week. How's that sound?

Sounds good. Sounds great. All right. We'll see you. See you. All right. Now's fun. Bloin.

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but you will hear the red hot chili peppers covering Hank Williams and that one song that everybody knows by the band Looking Glass. Nice. Well that's all the time we have we're going to take just kidding I'm going to read it back. Sorry. You're all good. Flee is naked

for us. That's all we're saying. The Ego Nog, oh man, talking about weird food shit, we should try on the show, puts a breakfast twist on the holiday drinking tradition. Yes, that's right, Brian, you too can go get a big jar of Kellogg's Ego Nog. It's weird that it comes in a jar. I saw this, right? It's a very weird. Sippin, what is it called? Sippin' liquid.

Sippin cream. Sipin' sipping liquid. Yep. And the guy on the other side with a cookie and a thing and all that. that little diabetes cup there, that that looks better. I think that looks like a tastier deal, but whatever. It does, yeah. I mean, I don't think you're supposed to just drink right out of the jar,

but that being that, you know, the cookie and the whipped cream and stuff is just that sip and cream poured into a glass. Yeah. I want this to put in coffee, honestly. Oh, well, you could, I guess. I think this would be a great cream or replacement. Yeah, it's actually got, I don't know how much per volume alcohol, but it's in there. Yeah.

It says, Ego-Nog, cream liqueur, cleverly. named rum-based beverage was created in partnership with Gatlinburg, Tennessee's Sugar Land's Distilling Company and the Kellogg's Company. It says we had a great idea and what we had heard from parents about this me time that they have on the night when they're eating ego waffles. Mom's going to go watch her stories and drink her sipping cream. I think it's a little weird that it would taste like an ego though. Like a, I don't know.

That sounds gross. Does it taste like an egg or is? just tastes like egg and hog with rum in it and it's just made by ego well it's a good point but just looking at that photo talk about the flavor not really uh let's see drizzle it scoop of ice cream something chocolate okay i'm still reading here brainstorming um how do i get this in the toaster here we go it's really heavy on deep flavors of churned cream cinnamon and nutmeg which we feel pair really well with that perfectly toasted ego waffle so they are saying you know you might you might even want to pour this on uh on a waffle

boh that looks yeah sounds bad to me i'm going to totally want to try this i wonder uh it'll be available and select retailers nationwide for the duration of this holiday season find a retailer near you visit so this between now look now that you've now that you've uh you know uh cut the cut the cord on the no alcohol streak. Let's do it. Would you try this? Oh, I'd totally taste it. I don't know if I'd drink much of it

because too much sugar and my doctor would be mad at me but if I did, I'd taste it. I would totally taste it. Here on the show if we want, I would do that. Wow, would drink on the show? Doesn't that violate some sort of I don't know? Which terms of service? Eggnog with a little schmoo in it, would it?

I don't know. I don't know. I'd only taste it, Let's see. Ooh, there is some within Glendale. Okay, where can I get this at Total Wine and More? On the east side of town. Total wine, eh? Sounds sketch to me. Yeah, I think I need to lift, direct me towards Total Wine and More on Evans Avenue.

Yep, and you bring somebody home with their own, their very own bottle of egg-o, nag, sipping cream. There's a way to, like, pre-pay for it. Maybe. Maybe they'll deliver. I don't know. Oh, maybe they deliver. Yeah, no kidding. You could send a postmates to get it or something.

Yeah, either way. Yeah. All right. Total wine and more. I'm going to say, hey, can I pay, prepay for this and just come and pick it up? Because I don't want the masses to buy it before I have a chance to get it. No, Brian wants it. You guys are all mass holes.

All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back, My sister Wendy will be here to solve the world's problems. Yes, that's right. Tuck in, everybody. A real psychologist in the room. But before that, a musical break that Brian brought.

Yeah, and usually I take this time to pull up my notes for the song that I'm playing. But I was too busy looking for where Appalachian sipping cream is close to me. But I'm going to tell you that we're playing the song, Evaporate. And I'm pulling it up. Oh, oh, oh, oh, there it is. Evaporate. it's a a williams brand new album um called as the moon rest and it uh it's out now it came out last friday um this is uh big thanks to bella union records more of like a um i don't know

like a kind of a dreamy psychedelic pop atmospheric uh rock kind of thing here let's just name a whole bunch of different genres want you listen and you tell me what it is here's the song Evaporate by A.A. Williams. Holding on, feeling everything I am, come and done, I wish I could just evaporate. Take my thoughts and slowly separate. It all starts and ends with you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I can't stop the violence in my mind. Every day I try just to survive Through my skin, I can't cope with feeling anything, I can't cope with feeling anything. I wish I could just disintegrate I can't bear to wait another day It all starts and ends

with you You I can't stop if I violence in my mind Every day I try to just to survive On myself is all myself is all I do. All myself is all I do.

All myself is all I do. Thank you. I can't stop the violence in my mind. Every day I try to just to survive. No, my sound is all I do. All my sound is all I do. Because all myself is all I do. All my sound is all I do.

No matter what the time or plays, let's keep up with that happy pace. Happy pace. Get real action. Seven up your thirst away. Ugh. This is the morning stream. Shut up, baby. I know it.

We've returned. Who is that again, that band with all the genres? Yeah, that's A.A. Williams and her brand new song, Evaporate from her new album as the moon rests. A-A-W. A-A-W. Not A-N-W. Don't look for A-N-W. No. If you do, it'll be connected to a freaking KFC, and that's the worst.

That's right. It'll be... It's so weird. Look, I understand consolidation. I know it makes sense. Somebody's like, I'm kind of in a hunger for a burger, but I could go for a bucket of chicken. I get it. But it just makes everything sound bad, and I don't want to go to either one.

It's like, well, I like chicken, fried chicken, but I'm not a big fan. of other drinks other than root beer so i want to go to a place where i can get both yeah how about that how about that all right a double down and a root beer float i believe it sounds so bad i believe uh this will be happening speaking of the holiday season there's uh it's like having my sister over for thanksgiving but way too early it's windy johnson winnie wendy dunford almost called you johnson can't do that And it's forbidden now. That's just the security question and all my banking. Oh, good.

Let everybody know that. That'll be good. We've one step closer to Fish and Windy, everybody. Get out there and get that done. Anyway, hey, it's good to see you. It's funny we brought that. You said that because I just had another, I won't say their name, but another family member on my wife's side of the family,

just got suckered out of $1,500 by one of these fake IRS calls. Oh, geez, really? They should have known better. They're not dumb. They're not, like, out of it. They're not 100 years old. They should have known. This call from internal revenue service.

Your account has been flagged. It was more like, I need your social security number. If you don't send this, I send over an agent that could take money from you. It was like that. And I'm like, it should have been a giveaway, but whatever, people get nervous about their money. I get it. Anyway, credit card company is going to cover it. It'll all be fine.

Thank goodness. Yeah, it does suck. Anyway, but what does the same? Suck is having Wendy here. She's not just my sister. She's a licensed professional therapist who helps people all the time with the real problems and then comes here on Thursdays to help you with some of yours. And sometimes it's ours.

You know, it's not always just the list of them. Yeah, we've all got them. Can I tell you really quick, someone was a fishing, I have an old guy friend here who is the nicest human I've ever met. And I got an email from him that said, I don't know how to order like an Apple gift card, my friend's birthdays today. Could you show me how to do it? So his voice, exactly a thing he would not know how to do.

And so I write back and I'm like, oh, totally happy to. So, you know, let's ask a question. Yeah. And then they wrote back something. And I was like, wow, that really sounds like him. I wasn't sure for sure. So I texted him. And I'm like, I said, hey, so I don't think this email is correct.

You spelled the person's name they wrote. They gave an email address that had an extra letter. And I was like, I don't think that's right. And he goes, oh my gosh, please don't send money. He's freaking out. He's had like 20 people call him. And he just doesn't know what to do. He's like 80 years old.

He has no idea. Anyway, so he's feeling really bad. And I was like, do I have permission to mess with them? He's like, yeah, of course. So I wrote back. Go for it, young lady, he says. And you went and he did. So what happened?

No, I wrote back. I wrote back. And I just said, okay, I'm so happy to send you. I'll send you $500. I'm happy to do that. I just have a couple quick questions. So that restaurant we went to the other night, I would love to tell my friend about it. I can't remember the name of it.

So what's the name of the restaurant? And then I made some other reference to like, also, I'm just happy to give you my full bank account if you respond to the restaurant question. They were probably very excited on the other end of that. And then they were like, wait, I mean, that's weird. Well, I think we're a big sucker. Turn it off. Call it off. So wait a minute.

Did you get anything back? Did you get anything back or nothing? No, I really want to start a dialogue, but they're not into it. There's an amazing... You went too hard too fast. Yeah, they're like, what restaurant? What would we even say? I'm like, well, you got Barbara's name pretty good and that she likes Apple gift cards.

I don't know. It's not bad. So you, there's a Twitch channel of a guy who does this on his stream. Yeah, that cat. Oh, my gosh. They are the funniest. They are so great. He screws these people out of it.

Like, they end up losing money. Yeah, he gets to sing Spice Girls lyrics. Like, he says, and it's this great, like this great old lady voice, well, I'm trying to click on the button. And by the way, while I'm doing this, do you remember a song by Billy Idol? And they have to go along with it. Yeah.

You have to, right. And then they get mad later. They get super pissed and just like screaming. Oh, it's really funny. It is the best. And you're like, oh, did somebody mess with you? Oh, that's a shame. What a bummer.

And they say things like, they're going to fire me if you don't go through with this. I'm like, no one's going to fire you. Right, exactly. What world do you live in? The third world is usually the answer. Anyway, hey, let's get to this email. So we got an email from somebody. Part of it in particular we want to focus on today.

And I also think that part, I have a specific connection to which I want to mention a little bit later. Winnie and I talked about this, but pre-show. But I'll go ahead and read it. This is from somebody we'll call D. And he says, this may be too late. They originally were going to email us about the sensitivity dysphoria stuff. So never too late, by the way, to email us. It was not able to be on that particular episode, but it's totally fine.

Anyway, it says, hello, Wendy, listening to your segment on TMS that week. And as you ran down examples of RSD, I had vivid recollections of my behavior for all of them. For information, I'm a 36-year-old male single, employed full-time, and was finally diagnosed with ADHD three years ago. On the sensitivity to Sforia, I've always found myself easily embarrassed. It restricts how I will act in public out of fear of looking stupid in front of strangers and even causes me to have to pause television shows if someone does something so embarrassing that I can't but empathize and feel embarrassed for them. I kind of do this sometimes. Yeah, right. Your nephew does too.

It's not always, but if it's like, I don't, I'm trying to have a recent example. You know what it is often? It's like a documentary style thing where somebody busts into a room. Like I could never watch those, that guy that bused people that were like, thought they were meeting a kid. To catch a predator? Yeah. I can't do it. It's just so like, just like, I'm almost feel, it's not that I feel bad for the guy who's being a total.

Of course you don't. noose nozzle in there. I feel bad for Chris, whatever's name is, even though he's kind of a weirdo now. But anyway, the host walking in and having to like reveal everything and it's just like, I can't, I can't watch this. I have to turn that stuff off. Anyway,

I told my, or I hold myself to high standards that I cannot reach either because of the limitations of my ADHD and then that puts on my productivity or because it's inhuman to expect perfect results, first try, etc., and all that stuff. Then he says, while this contributes to my low self-esteem, much of that

is body related primarily. These standards mean I always feel like I should have been doing something more and then feel like a failure for not living up to that. I would like to start my own business one day, but the feeling that my work isn't good enough or no one will like it like it keeps me from even entertaining the idea in any practical sense. I won't try because I don't or I couldn't bear to fail or not be amazing right away. Then he says, in this part we're going to kind of focus on today, I am always anxious in

social situations, especially if strange. are involved. I can't let loose for fear of embarrassing myself, which means I am awkward and boring at parties, et cetera, and can't begin to be myself until I have gotten to know people and know they won't react negatively if I show a me that isn't a neutral facade. Lastly, the thought of being rejected makes me angry, mostly in relation to me as a person being rejected. This most commonly shows itself with online dating. The fleeting nature of these kinds of apps means that anytime someone who feels a connection

or I feel a connection with suddenly cuts things off, I feel like it's all on me. It hurts and it makes me mad. I have lashed out of people for ghosting me, undoubtedly confirming the move in their minds. I don't know if this email is too late to read. Definitely not. But thank you for reading it anyway. And I look forward to listening to whatever advice you have on this topic

this week, Daniel. So you wanted to kind of not cherry pick, but grab the anxiety bit and talk about that. So let's do that. The social anxiety bit and the sort of the part about the dating app thing. Because that is just, it's ubiquitous now, right? Everyone's experiences.

I've thought of this a couple times. Like, if I were going to invent something that would like psychically, emotionally harm as many people as I could think of, It would be dating apps. How could I wreck the lives of so many people all at once? Yeah. And have them so dependent on me. Yeah. It would be a dating app.

And mainly because I think, you know, it's a very structure lends itself to what he experiences frequently. And we know a couple of things about dating apps. Like 20% of people on dating apps are having a good time. they are getting all the swipes and all the looks and all the contacts and 80% or not. And that is a giant lack of success rate for people. For sure. Yeah. But they don't advertise that, by the way.

That's never advertised. They never talk about it. I worked for a dating app from 04 until, not app, but it's a website from 04 to 08. And I can tell you from first-hand experience, although we never said it publicly, is like 2% or 3% of people. were having any kind of success on there. Oh, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. And when I say 20%, those are just people getting swiped on.

You're right, right. Ultimate success. And it doesn't mean it doesn't happen for some people. Yay, for you guys. But for the rest, it's a big percentage. What's funny is I have a client who is definitely in that 20% and I feel like I have to wrestle that thing, that phone out of her hand. Because she's using it to feel validated and feel good about herself when she feels crappy so and it works because she's in the 20% that gets she has the right picture and the

right height and size and all the things that give you the swipes and so um and and so that is it it's being used as a tool for different reasons for different people yeah so anyway it is the tool to crush a whole generation of daters um and i think it's it's works wonderfully so i don't know who's the evil master right it's worked out great for them um anyway but the point being like, it is a ripe, ripe place to have this rejection. If you don't have rejection dysphoria before or dating abs, you will definitely have it after. It's a way to, it's like cuts right to a lot of our fears. And I've talked about this on the show before. It's kind of my guiding principle to human beings is that we have

some really basic needs. And when those needs are not met, we can get pretty reactive about them for a very good reason because they mean survival. So some core ones being fear of rejection, you know, fear of being abandoned, right? And so you take a dating app as a place to be vulnerable, even though it's not real, but it's still you. So it's real, if that makes sense? And there's all these protections like that are supposed to make you not hurt so bad, but then say you're chatting with someone like our email or describes, and then they

suddenly drop you, no explanation. I mean, ghosting is a thing and is a rampant thing and it is a common thing. And it strikes to the core of this thing as humans. We do not do well with. It represents just lack of love, lovability, worthiness, tisks goes right to the core of that. And we have to get, but to protect yourselves from that. So I always have rules when people are working with me that they can, they can only do dating apps with my if they have to follow my rules right and they are very strict like you get one app and you get to do it for one month and you can only talk to three people and you have to get on a date with that person within a week and they're just like oh this is awful or do you just want to do dating apps the rest of your life yeah no and that's mainly because

it's so damaging it can be so damaging yeah and he's responding he's lashing out because he's getting hit right in that wound and there is no recourse there is no way to feel better there is no and so he's lashing out they're like whoa dodged a bullet and he gets this cycle just becomes vicious yeah yeah in some way well yeah

it's a self-fulfilling a circle of problems there so what's the thing I was going to say about that if you oh ghosting for those who maybe don't know what that means because there's going to be somebody out there who doesn't it's like somebody who's like you're talking to him and then suddenly

it's as if they don't even know you exist. You're just done. And you don't hear anymore. So if a friend of yours that you text with every week, let's say, suddenly stops entirely, blocks you on everything and just never says a word to you, you've been ghosted, right? Yeah. That's the idea. Okay.

And that is a core psychic wound, emotional wound for anyone. Now, put everyone, take a second, pick someone you really care about in your life and imagine them ghosting you. And if you don't get a ping in your heart, you're a robot. Right? Oh, no, I'm a robot. I'm just kidding. No, I can. It's terrifying.

That is a terrifying actual thing to think about happening when you've been vulnerable and you need someone and you care about something. And these are many versions of that because maybe you don't know someone very well. But it's re wounding something that's probably already been wounded. So let's talk about the social anxiety piece for a second and how this is connected. Um, okay, so I had a conversation with a certain person recently who was talking about their communication struggles. And what's happening is while the other person is talking, and this is a young person and just not a lot of experience, right? So trying to figure it out. And they said, okay, while the person's talking, I'm thinking something pops in my head. It's like,

another story that's somehow related, right? That's how our brains work. Like, right now you guys are thinking of things to say. Uh-huh. Right? It's normal. This is what happens in human communication. But what it means is you're not as good at listening. And if you lose the thread of what they're talking about, because you are talking to another 13-year-old or whatever, then you only have your story in your head and now you've got to catch up and it's awkward. And you, you know, maybe haven't figured out how to do that. So we were talking about just different. strategies. And I want to tell that story because I think there's not a 13-year-old and there is not not a 13-year-old inside of all of us. And I can prove it. Think of the last

time you heard about a party you were not invited to. Or think about an activity that was going on or something that you just didn't know about to the last minute. Or, I mean, do you guys have examples of this? Like, how can we trigger our insecure? Nobody likes me maybe I don't know where do I stand well is it weird that I think I think it might have we might have to talk about something other than parties because if somebody invites me to a or if somebody doesn't invite me to a party now I kind of go oh gosh right I'm freaking dodge that don't really want to go yeah but it works with other stuff too like well I think it would work if I said it was Chris oh shoot I can't remember his name to me that sound cool

Chris metz yes oh yeah he's in town and he invites he he flies you know Brian out from Colorado to have a lunch, but you don't know about it. Oh, yeah. I would, if that happened, like something, something like that, or if I knew Liam O'Brien showed up in town and didn't, didn't call me or something, I would be like, what the, why? Why didn't he? Yeah. You can do, yeah, you can definitely do in situations like that.

Oh, yeah. It was like a couple months ago when it went next door for, to give the next to the crazy neighbors something that I borrowed or to ask for something or whatever. and I ring the doorbell and I know that they've got rings so they can see me on their phones and I'm waiting and then they come from across the street

at another neighbor's house carrying the old Mrs. Crazy Neighbor carrying a glass of wine like they're both over there having a little party get together like oh what's going on what's going on over there anything that Anything I should know about?

Anything I should know about you can I join you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It happens. There's no faster track back to that vibe, right? Totally. And you are probably involved in one million things that someone else is observing and having that response to. Bill, yeah, exactly. That I never think about like, yeah. Yeah. So, so then the difference might be from where that is so excruciating you don't function to like, okay, I got to shake it off and I'm not 12. It's fine. Or, you know, whatever is, is like how many times.

that's been repeated or or or and and this is where I you know this is about me bringing my therapy here but it's about going you know pretty young like where does this rejection start right the not feeling safe to say what you think um and feel or that you're not so welcome right because there's you can take two kids that on paper look identical they're going to have really different maybe internal experiences with being accepted or rejected for whatever reason, right? And so that feedback loop starts a lot earlier, starts with your primary caregivers. In fact, I was just looking at some research about, it's 40, 50 years old at this point, but they followed these three groups of moms and their children for 45 years,

for 35 years, I think. And these three groups were broken up into, they just observed the moms with their kids and their sort of natural, how much love and affection and doting they would give their kid and ranked him in three groups. And the kids who got the most love, the most sort of attention and just affection, those are thriving adults. And obviously other things happen in life, but these other categories where mom was more cold or distant or, you know, and it's not to blame all the moms. and the dads out there, but your first relationship of the first mirror that's showing you

if you're lovable sometimes doesn't give you that message. And the other groups struggled much more with anxiety, struggled much more with different things. Now, anxiety can come on for different reasons, but if, so don't draw the line too tight here. But there is this, what are my early experiences with safety, belonging, I'm lovable. And if those, if those are, are not fairly solid at a young age, then it's tricky as time goes on. Right. So then we can take bullying as an example of like blood in the water, right? Finding a kink in someone or a chink in someone's armor to be like, oh, I know how to get that kid.

Grabbing the most wounded pack animal that you can find. Exactly. Or finding victims of different things is like you look for the kid that doesn't have. have that the pack around them or the safety at home or, you know, and I worked a lot with predators and sex offenders. And I mean, it wasn't even conscious them doing that, but that's who they always chose sort of the animal. And it's just part of how our human species work as a pack society generally, right? Okay. So let's take this email. You are feeling these feelings, you're having a lot of this experience and maybe you're naming it for yourself for the

first time? Like now we have a name. There's this rejection sensitivity, dysphoria. Or there is, you know, I have a wild mood swing when it comes to rejection. I have this incredibly strong reaction to something not being safe, even if it's just portrayed as something fake on TV. That's a place to get really curious about. Like, I don't have this internal stability. and it's probably for a reason. So there may be some obvious things. You grew up in a home where you could say, okay, well, there was alcoholism and there was violence.

And, you know, and we talked about the Aces study a long time ago. I don't know if you guys remember that. The acute childhood experiences, not acute. I'm saying the wrong word. Anyway. That's not sounding familiar. No. It's not.

Okay. Aces. It's the, someone look it up for me. It's A-C-E-S or? A-C-E-S. yes oh come on my brain is busted adverse thank you adverse childhood experience questioner and it it's connecting really difficult things people have gone through as children and tying them to health outcomes it's a huge health study and what you find is that people

die significantly younger have more disease and different problems who've gone through these difficult childhood things so i'll just give you a quick example because the internet's fast You know, so in the first 18 years of your life, did a parent or another adult in the household often swear at you, insult you, or put you down or humiliate you or make you afraid that you might be hurt? That is one. Okay. So if you say yes to that, your health outcomes, you know, start to plummet based on. So another one, did a parent or other adult in the household often push, slap, grab, or throw something at you or ever hit you and leave a mark? And so you go down the list, sexual abuse is in here telling. Is it like different, each of those questions weighted differently? So this one has more of a chance of affecting you later in life.

This one has less of a chance. I don't know if someone has done that work, possibly, but I think it's more about the accumulation, like the number of them. So you have one or two, it's much easier to be resilient than when you have six or seven. Okay. I mean, it doesn't mean people have absolutely survived many of these things. Of course, yeah. But wow, does it, I mean, really what it's happening. So let me give you another one.

You often feel that no one in your family loved you or thought you were important or special. So we're not, so they hit you or they don't think you're special are both really dangerous experiences. And not special and like special special, but just like important enough or your opinion mattered, that kind of thing. So it goes on in these different ways. And so there's only sort of 10 questions, but depending on how many you have, shows those outcomes. But if I would sort of articulate what it is that's happening in any of these adverse childhood experiences, it's your potentially your body autonomy, your emotional psychological autonomy where development is thwarted by lack of safety, threat. or neglect, right? Like, you're in danger because you are either getting too much negative attention and being harmed

or you're being sort of seen as not important enough, right? So I don't know our email or situation at all. But when I would get curious about is maybe look at the adverse childhood experiences questionnaire. You can find it online and just see if any of those are resonating. And if any of them do, I would say there are definitely people who can probably navigate this and create social support systems and different things, but most people probably need psychological help with experiencing aces. And not just that suddenly it's making them this or that, but often it really has an impact longer term in relationships and clearly health outcomes and some other things. So to work through that trauma or grief is huge. Yeah, and probably even something that they don't even realize they're doing.

You're putting up a wall in every relationship and they don't know they're doing it. Should they, is this something they should go, that process, maybe do it with a therapist? Like, you know what I mean? 100%. Okay. The web empty this necessarily, have somebody who's going to kind of direct you through it and help answer questions as you do it and all this. Yes. Let's do the questionnaire together.

Yeah. Because there is a, there's a specific reason for that. So I had a recent conversation with someone who was older. I'm just liking my vague pointing out people. But a conversation with someone who was older complaining about how someone who was younger is getting all sorts of help after having a baby or after having surgery, something that this older person has done many times in their life. And this is such a boomer response, right?

Which is like, well, we didn't have that. Yeah. And so my next question was, like, and how is that working out? Yeah, is that going? A lot of people, right? Like, don't you think just supporting this person after surgery because they're 24 is just a good idea? Like, it's a strange competitive response, right?

And that is an example of what makes this ACE's stuff actually fairly precarious when you're working with anybody who isn't trained. So a friend, a family member, I mean, they may be part of these things. They may have been in the same household or known you a long time and how do we handle that you got slapped and kicked or ignored or I did. And now I'm supposed to respond to your challenge. Well, what am I going to use? I'm going to use my defense mechanisms to try to protect you too, right?

Right. Which is, oh, it's not that big a deal. Yeah. Or just get outside and walk around. You'll feel better, right? Why do we say those things to people with mental illness? why would why would those words ever come out of anyone's mouth it's because this is what worked for me so i will give you that now did it work for you or did you go through any of these things or are you

still like drinking yourself to sleep every night you know like it's it we we tend to give advice out of our wounds rather rather than out of our um sort of processed you know therapeutically guided scars yeah we're coming out of our wounds which means we're going to give defense mechanisms we're going to give our projections and our biases. And so when you go to somebody to say, hey, let's talk about why I am so afraid of rejection. If they are also afraid of rejection, which everyone is and haven't done their work, you're going to get responses that might make this way worse and even get rejected again. That makes sense?

Yeah, it does. The hard part would be, I feel like the world is made up of two people, one that says, rub some dirt in it and you'll be fine. Yeah, right. And then the other one that says, I don't really know the best thing to do and I bet I need some help and then I'll trust the experts

and all of that. But I don't know if you've ever had to deal with anyone who thinks rubbing dirt in it is all you need to do, but it's hard, man. So like if everybody around you has always said, whatever the equivalent of rub some dirt on it, you'll be fine. That's really hard to try to just reconcile

because that's just what, that's all you know. Like if a father figure told you, that or whoever i mean i understand a i understand like a basketball coach telling saying that even though i still disagree with it but it's like you know if a kid gets hurt a walk it off yeah exactly yeah just seems damaging one of my former neighbors as a kid who um we just went to watch his homecoming game and uh the team just got kind of slaughtered yeah but he got an injury of uh um his finger got caught between two helmets during a pile up and it's bloody it's not broken but he's gonna lose the nail it's all black and purple now and and and he's

like uh coach i you know i might need to miss practice no you're not missing any practices you can uh you can still play it's like oh man geez geez so he's he's definitely of that brush it off it and you know put some dirt in it and everything will be fine yeah yeah exactly right now hold some dirt on it can i speak to that for a second first of all i have my son is playing football and we have an exact opposite experience. They are so careful. These coaches are just like, I mean, they're kids, right? And my kids go to a nerd school.

They're never going to win a championship. There's no fooling yourself. They still are serious, but like, I don't know. I mean, they're just trying to build a program around the right thing to do with a sport that is dangerous, right? So it builds a lot of confidence in parents, I have to say. Because I would not have normally let my kid play football. Is this Elliott, by the way? It's Elliot playing.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is totally, if you had told me like, I don't know, five years ago, hey, I bet Elliot plays football. I would have said, no way. He wouldn't even play, get within a foot of a kid playing soccer because he was afraid he'd hurt them. Yeah.

So he's very, I mean, and he's, he's, it's, yeah, it's still hard for me. I'll be honest. Okay. But we have a very different experience. I think they've made it possible because of the way they treat this. But let's talk about why you wouldn't do that, right? Like, I mean, I don't know why all these coaches are good at this. Sure, because these parents demand it.

But I do think, if you think about the coach that's not good at it, the coaches just like, suck it up. Now, translate that to anyone. Why do they need to tell you that? Why are they uncomfortable with your pain, your black finger that has now lost a nail? Right. Why are they uncomfortable with you not taking care of? of yourself. I would that be a thing.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a good answer for that. Well, I'm going to guess, I mean, we'll stick with football for a minute, but I'm going to guess if you're coaching football, you played football. Yeah.

Probably. And I'm going to guess you were back in the era where you got your wrong and everyone laughed. Yeah. Right. That makes sense. Like if you, if you were, if you're some Gen X coach, which is likely, because, you know, that's kind of the age of these guys now, 40. to, you know, 50-year-old dudes, you grew up when I did where they did weekly jock checks

and, you know, look down your pants to see if you were wearing a jock. And then, you know, if you didn't do something right, they'd kind of push you, push you across the room with their foot and say, you know, we'll clean up the, clean up the locker room then or whatever. Like there was just a, you know, just a different kind of zone back then, you know. There is. Yeah. It also could be, because he doesn't want, he doesn't want to have different degrees

of that with other kids too, right? You know, the kids saying, oh, I get a stomachache. If, you know, Billy can be out with his bad finger. I have a bad stomachache right now. Right. Totally. Okay. So right there is a great example of like, there are probably fairly good reasons to try

to control a thing that could get, you know, everyone's like, oh, sweet. This is the vibe. We can just take a day off if I don't feel good. You know, like there is some value to like trying to create a culture that, you know, we give our best or, you know, whatever. Sure. But I would argue, and this is, I mean, beyond football, of course, is that if you're really uncomfortable when someone is not feeling well, they're not okay emotionally, something

is going on, they set a boundary, they know what they need, want, think, or feel, you likely didn't get that freedom yourself. Sure. And so it's not something, or just even, hey, taking the time to talk it through with someone, if that wasn't modeled to you and you've never had that, that's not in your repertoire, right? You're just like, stop it. I'm so because I'm the parent, you know, like, what were the words said to you when you ever tried to express those boundaries?

And this is hard, right? We are all products of the people who came before us. Yeah. And the people who coming after you, you're just doing the best of what you have. And so when people are like, I'm not having children, I'm like, I get that. Like, you want to stop this chain. But just this idea, though, of what are your, what's your comfort with your own feelings, what you've been through? Have you processed anything?

And so it might be really hard. And I'm speaking to this generationally, Gen Z is like, this is what I have. I have 15 labels. And I need you to accommodate that. And you're talking to a boomer who's like, I was not allowed to. feeling like not even one yeah yeah it's really they're running into each other because this is hard and it's hard for both both versions both sides of this right so anyway going back to the emailer though like so what are those are the questions i'd get curious about what's the

origin story for um this challenge and and social situations like going back to that idea right i'm i'm going to go to a party and i'm supposed to be talking to people and i'm having a hard time actually listening because I'm so worried how I'm being perceived. When that's the case, there's some stunted maybe development that is, that's an 11, 12, 13 year old response. Once those hormones hit and the whole world starts staring at you in your mind, if you're stuck in that, and that's what often social anxiety is about, is being stuck in the mode that I'm going to humiliate myself, say the wrong thing, you know, there is some natural battery

re-draining that comes from I'm with people or not with people. And I don't mean that. I mean, and some people really thrive and other people are just like, I'm tired. I don't want to go to that party. It's more about what is actually happening if you are super stressed out. You know, if you could watch a video of what's happening in your head, is it the whole time you're stressed and worried and you're not, you're not listening, you're not connecting, you don't really know how. And then that person rejects you or you perceive they're projecting or rejecting you, you don't actually know. You don't check in. Like, you're just going to have this self-fulfilling prophecy happen over and over and over again. It's a hard thing to break. And so, yeah, talking to someone who can help you get out

of social anxiety cycles is going to be helpful. There's some things to read. There's some things to practice. You know, so a couple things, this young person and I had this discussion was to check with the person if, what, like, have them repeat if you didn't understand what they said or check if you're making sense, just kind of a check-in without being repetitive. Like, do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? But just some version of like, let's practice, is this listening working? How to active listen.

But I'm talking to a 12-year-old who has a lifetime to practice some of these skills. Most of us did not get any help to do this when we were younger. you're just thrown in or like what's wrong with you, etc. Right. So we need to have a lot of compassion that maybe we just didn't get the things we needed when we were younger. But you can get some of those now.

Yeah. I remember when we were, I don't know, you wouldn't remember this. I guess you'd have been too young. But Mark taught, Mark, my brother Mark was a coach or a co-coach for our baseball team.

Yeah. And I was, I think I was eight. And I was not athletic. It was just a dopey, stringy looking dummy, right? No big deal.

But I played. and it may have been soccer I don't remember which team it was but anyway I remember so vividly and adults just don't know that they're doing this sometimes but so vividly we had

like a thing at the park where it was like the end of the season and everybody was going to get trophies for how they did that year and stuff like that and this guy got up and he's giving them out and all these star players on the team

and we were all eight and nine but they were pretty good and you know they're the ones that made goals they went first and all of that. Yeah. It may have been soccer now that I think about it. Anyway, they get to me and I never forget this. The guy that was partnered with Mark as head coach, you know, there were co-coaches.

He goes, and we got one here for Scott, little Scotty Johnson. And let's just say, well, he definitely showed up to the games, ha, ha, ha, laughed, you know, whatever. And a bunch of other people laughed. And then he had to meet his thing. And Mark was pissed. He was really mad. I remember him being so mad. I actually took that guy over in some corner and yelled at him.

But I remember feeling like the lowest I could possibly feel in that situation. And it did stick with me. But what also stuck with me, which is why I'm a big believer in like standing up for people who need it, was Mark standing up for me. That made a huge difference. So I'm dealing with this guy who was a total a hole. And he's like, well, at least you showed up, man. Doesn't really realize what he's saying to somebody who needs all the courage that they can get. And then to have somebody there who would go to bat right then and not laugh with everybody else and all of that.

Crucial for me. Yeah. I think had that gone a different way, I don't know where, you know, I don't know what would have done to me. Would have made it worse for sure. Right. But yeah, you don't realize what you're doing or saying, man. You just, with kids especially, you just got to be, I don't know. Oh, you got to be smart about it.

You got to be better. Right. It has to be way more, and, you know, my favorite phrase is take out your garbage, right? Yeah. Like, if you need to be cruel and laugh, you know, get a laugh because of a kid. Yeah. Like, your garbage isn't taken out. No.

Get that garbage out. And a huge part of that might just, like, you can think some stuff. But until you're real old, you're not allowed to. say them because you are going to harm someone else. And that might just mean like, you know, maybe maybe you have no sense of that experience. And, you know, so doing your own work is, it's just, it's just so important. I'm hearing this story and I'm very nervous because Adam and I are going to coach Elliott's basketball team this fall. Fun. Fun. And I'll tell you what I'm good at. I am good at being coached. I am good at playing basketball. I am good at how it's

played. I am not good at coaching. Adam, on the other hand, cannot dribble a ball without me laughing at him because he's so bad. But he is such a good coach, which is why we're a team. So I'm the head coach, which is funny. And then he is going to actually make these kids feel good. And so my goal this this season is you know these are the kids that they're they can't spend the money or the crazy time to be on these crazy teams you're aware of like traveling teams oh yeah all these oh my gosh it's an insanity i don't even know it's an entire it's an entire culture it's the weirdest thing it's terrifying it's just parents their kids anyway uh this so it's got to be a lot of fun but i also don't like to lose i don't know guys i feel like i'm going to need some support in the

I can confirm when I used to go to Wendy's sports stuff, whatever it was, baseball. He'll their self. Exactly. Physician. When you, when we used to go to your games when you were playing back when we were kids, she was on fire, dude. You were like,

I will end you kind of attitude. She would make, like if somebody, well, whatever, when you were in the thick of it, you were as competitive as anybody, but you weren't like a jerk.

You were just, no, no, but I really think it's fun to win. Yeah. And that is not what a parent should be saying. as a coat. So I'm going to keep my mouth shut and just have them do drills and stuff and we'll let Adam do all the Mormon fuzzy parts.

But what is really... You're going to do your best. And someone said to me like, you could just do therapy with them. And I'm like, I don't understand how. How can I also do therapy and make them improve? And they're like, well, I don't know. So I've been trying to think of how I can... But in the end, what I think I'm going to do is handle the parents.

That's going to be where I shine. Yeah, yeah. Setting up expectations, like, hey, guys, I was you on the sideline, furious, that this coach does not know what they're doing. Sure. So I'm putting my money where I mouth is and we'll talk by the flagpole after the game. I can't wait to hear. I'm scared. I'm so scared.

It's going to be terrified. It's going to be great. And I think, Elliot, see, you have the whole other added baggage of when your parents are the coach versus just being some guy or some friend's dad. That's always a little weird. So you have to navigate that. Let me tell you this, the coach last year, he used ablest slurs is the best way I can pronounce, they call that towards the kids. Like, you're running so slow, blank, blank. I mean, and Elliot, who is 13 years old, had to tell him to stop and it was not okay, which I'm proud of him for.

He's such a little. He's a warrior. Because he's a dad, dude. That kid's a dad. So he is thrilled to have us as coaches because he won't have to baby. sit. Well, he doesn't know yet about me. I might need some babysitting, but he doesn't have to babysit at least from a human decency perspective. And I think that's just what's hard, right? It was just some kid's dad. And he just shouldn't have been there. And it's because I needed,

anyway. So it's going to be funny because I'm sure these kids won't know how to play. And it's going to be good. I don't know. I made this about me, guys. Clearly it's a problem. Yeah. It's making about Wendy. Yeah. Elliot's a good kid. I think he'll keep you in line. You'll be fine. I think so too. I think so too. You guys should meet this, but the reason it came up and also your story of like how powerful and influence

people are on young minds, right? Like young developing, you're developing your identity, your sense of self, your value. Am I lovable? Am I rejectable? Those are scary moments to be a part of and every adult should take it very seriously. But it's hard, especially when. when we're triggered and we don't know what to do with it. And so I would just want to encourage this email or like,

there's enough in here that you really ought to think about finding someone to talk to. And here's the hard thing, right? The thing you're most afraid of is the thing you're about to have to do with a stranger. Yeah. Which is share what's real for you and worry that they will reject you. Yeah. And that's why when therapists do stupid crap like that sometimes, it's more damaging than anything you could possibly imagine because that person took a risk.

And so I understand that. But making a couple phone calls beforehand, emailing potential therapist, just getting a vibe check, reading up their bios, like finding away, you know, it's nice. Didn't you give us a link once for like basically it was like Yelp for therapists or something? Yeah. So it's psychology today.com is my favorite one. There's a therapist.com one as well that I, it's new. and so it doesn't maybe have as many people.

But you can, sometimes they'll have a video you can watch. They'll have a write-up about what they help with. If this person wants to email me and just give me a couple pieces of information, I'd be happy to help them search for that. Because there are some code words. It's not like it's meant to be code, but like they do certain kinds of therapy. They're trained in certain styles. I would definitely want someone who's, I don't know anything about this guy.

I'm making this part up. But I would want somebody who's trauma-informed and is going to do certain kinds of work with can help work on very old wounds with people because, you know, rejection dysphoria comes from a time ago. It's not a recent thing. Right. Usually. And that's why it's so prevalent with ADHD folks, because the ADHD has created

some situations where they're getting rejected and can make them hyper aware of that rejection, but not really knowing how it came about because they were either paying attention or something like that. So, um, anyway, so yeah, I would want a couple things for, for this emailer to have. And, and sometimes that's just helpful to have another pair of eyes go, person seems like they would fit your needs. So feel free to reach out to me. Um, you can email me at, uh, admin at Real Steps is probably the last email I can think of. Yeah. I get all the time. I love how boring it is, admin at Real Steps. And it's only me.

They get them. I'm in the Admin. I think I have another one. Wendy at Real Steps too. I don't know. You probably do. You probably have Wendy with an eye at realsteps.org, right? Adam would have done that.

Just trust me. Admin will come to me. Okay. And only me. Yeah. Anyway, so I'd be happy to help with that because it's really can be overwhelming. and you want to get it right. It is like dating.

You've got to find someone that matches, and that's hard because being vulnerable while matching up with someone is, yeah, that's tricky. It's not easy. Well, we'd love to hear how this goes. So email us back. Let us know what you end up doing. And this is also a good reminder to people that if you feel like you were too late for

a subject, don't let that hold you back from emailing us. You still send it. Yeah, for sure. We'll find something in there that we can talk about. You follow ups all the time. Yeah. Yeah, we love follow-ups.

Not an issue. Excellent. Well, Coach Dunford, I hope the team, when does the season start? Basketball's weird time. So I'm going to spend eight hours on Saturday being trained, and I'm going to learn this, you guys. I can do this. This is my scary thing. So in real steps, we're doing this week is scary week.

And so, you know, we're doing all sorts of things to learn about anxiety and stuff. And one of the things is you have to do something scary every day. And sometimes making a phone call to, like, set up an appointment is the scariest thing you could do in a day. So it's really small stuff, but I chose the ginormous I'm going to coach for the next six months. So anyway, it starts, I think, after Halloween. So, you know, keep me in your thoughts and friends, everyone. What's the team name? You guys an animal or what are you?

The Bears. The Bears. Nice. All right. Well, I have high hopes for the whole season. Good luck with that. And we'll talk again next week before Halloween happens. We'll see you later, Wendy Bye.

Real Steps.org, everybody. That's where you want to go. All right. Well, we've come to the part of the show, the sad part, Brian. Oh. Or we have to leave. However, there's lots of content coming today at 1 p.m. You got your Coverville live.

Don't forget that. That's right. Red hot chili peppers. That's right. Be naked like flea and be there. Couch party tomorrow. we are going to do at least one, possibly more. It depends a little bit on a schedule issue,

but we're going to watch at least one episode of Creep Show. Creep Show, thank you. Couldn't remember the name of the day. Since you've got your Shutter subscription, let's watch some Creep Show. Yeah, let's do a little Halloween fun. I haven't, it's a show, you know,

I'm familiar with the movies, but I never saw the show, and I've heard good things about the show. So we're going to check it out, watch it together on the TMS patron couch party. That's tomorrow at our normal time, 3 p.m. Mountain. If you know about it, you know how to get in there.

So be a part of that. If you know, you know. That's right. Normally Corr would be tonight, but John's got a thing. So we have bumped it a day to Friday. And that'll be live right around 5 p.m. Friday night here at the same link. So come watch us hang out and talk then. And FilmSack on Saturday, we're watching Cats Eye, more good Halloween times right there.

A movie that was forbidden fruit for Wendy and I growing up. Which is surprising because it's so innocuous. It really is. Right? Like I haven't seen it ever, but from what I understand, my mom overreacted on this one. Like, this is the exorcist. You're going to be blown away by like, oh, this, this was it. Yeah. This isn't the Exorcister Hellraiser mom, which somehow I watched those back then. So whatever. Yeah. I'm sure she's listening. Anyway, so, oh, how's your mom? Everything going okay?

She's fine. Yeah. She's back home. She's getting a text her every morning. I have alarm on my phone to remind me to check in on her every morning at a certain. time. That's good. And she's getting better and better every day. That's fantastic to hear. Yes. We got to watch. I mean, Brian and are the age where we got to keep an eye on our moms. We've got to watch our moms. There also will be a guess the connection tomorrow before couch party. Oh, great. 2 p.m. 2 p.m. Mountain Time Twitch TV slash Coverville. I still haven't been able to give away these

master's universe figures. So somebody's got to win them. Oh, get in there. Get that done. Exactly. Don't let him and win. Real quick to the finale of the entire Heroes of the Waste campaign for There Will Be Dungeons is on Saturday. Yeah, that's right. We have to sew things up, A, because that was the plan.

But B, the Ferguson's are about to have baby number two. Their time is about to get really limited. Yeah. So we need to sew things up. So we are going to be live on. Saturday at our normal time. You can find it on our calendar. And I think that's 2 p.m. Yeah, two to five on Saturday. And we are going to finish that thing up. What will happen to Nash, Stanley, Hope, and Varell. Well, you'll have to tune in and find out.

Same, same. And there's always the podcast. We want to catch up there. Totally fine. And YouTube. Yeah. I need to actually. Now that I've been playing so much D&D, I'd love to hear how other people sound doing it if they sound as dumb as me. Yeah. I mean, it only take it, you know, it only took us five years to do this campaign. so it's, you know, not a lot of content. It'll be real quick read. Or listen, anyway, that's it for that. I want to thank a patron who's been here since 2014.

Yeah, that's right. Some love out to Adam Owens, a longtime suburb, and a friend of the program, if you would like to be like Adam, join today. It doesn't really matter how long you've been here. It's just that you're here. Just that you're here. Yeah, exactly.

So sign up at patreon.com slash TMS. I just put out the October art for the month. I really like how it turned out. So if you want prints and cards and audio content and all kinds of other stuff all the time, well, there's no better place than patreon.com slash TMS. And for everything else, you'll find it all linked over at pateer or sorry, over at frogpants.com slash tms. Okay. Should we do, uh, you want to do a song or what do you think?

Uh, let's do a song. I'm in the mood. I'm in the mood, Scott, to do a song. Me too. So let's do a song. Uh, Mike Jones wrote in and says, hello, Scotland and Bulgaria on October. October 15th, I reach my 40th birthday, and my life will finally begin. My all-time favorite band is Manick Street Preachers, and on a previous birthday, I requested

a cover by them, so this time I'm requesting a cover of them. I'd love to hear Sharks cover of Motown Junk, but if that's not possible, any other cover of the Manix will be great. Thanks, Mike Jonas, a.k.a. Ognock Jones, on the rare occasions that I'm able to listen live. P.S. Is it too early to get it? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's that from? Oh, yeah. Did we have a thing? Oh, yeah. Do a search. What do you have for? Oh, yeah. Let's see here. Okay, we'll do a manual search because this one's not showing up right away. Let's chew. Oh, yeah. I don't know what. Okay, so I have a, is it this one? Oh, yeah. Is it that guy? I doubt it. I don't recognize that one. Is it jury doing. Oh, yeah? Is that it? Oh, I'll bet that's it's totally it. How about this one? Oh, yeah? Fargo?

I got a few oh, yes. I think I played everything you could have wanted, so. I'm sure you wanted one of those. All right, so Motown junk, not to be confused with Uptown Funk. Motown junk by Sharks. This is from the Japanese version of their No Gods album, which came out in 2012. Here is their cover of the Manic Street Preachers,

who I'm going to see in less than a month, woo! With Motown Junk. I never ever wanted to be with you The only thing you gave me was the bottom of my suffocated end stop the rain Memb that it pissed down Just want to take their greatest I laughed

I laughed When Landon got shot Stop living and nothing means anything to mean. Motown junk, a lifetime of slavery. Songs of love that go underclass betrayal. Stop your heart beating for one, six, eight seconds. Stop your brain thinking for one, six, eight seconds. Motown junk, Motel junk, Motel junk.

Junk Motel junk And I don't want kiss I just get All you stress All your struts, zero suffer is a fear of beautiful Fast made Jesus

Because I'm dying now Community in ECHEL That please our Christian Motown Motown Motown I laughed

When Lenned got shot 21 years I've lived And nothing means anything to me Motown junk a lifetime of slavery Songs of love echo Underclass betrayal Stop your heart beating for one, six, eight seconds Stop your brain thinking for one, six, six,

eight seconds, Motown, jungle, lifetime of slavery, songs of love that go underpassed betrayal, stop your heart beating for one, six, eight seconds, stop your brain thinking for one, six, eight seconds. We live in a bun how we destroy rock and roll This show is part of the Frog Pants Network Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com.