The Morning Stream - TMS 2368: The Replacement Jedi

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

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The morning stream, the morning stream, the morning stream, the morning stream. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for October 25th, 2022. I'm Scott Johnson. It's not Brian Ibbett. He's at home sick. He's ill today. And so Bobby Frankenberger is currently occupying his seat. Bobby, hello. Welcome back. woke up this morning. You know, it's funny about that is every time every time I watch anything on HBO that was the very first HBO series I ever watched was The Sopranos.

Oh, wow. And so every time I watch anything on HBO, we'll be watching last week tonight or anything and it plays that HBO like, whoa. And I immediately, as soon as it's done, I start singing that. song. And my wife hates it. But every time, we could be watching anything. Yeah, it's pretty iconic. I think that I'm trying to think of the first full series, like top to bottom I saw

on HBO. I think it probably was Sopranos as well now that I think about it. It was also my first Netflix series. Oh, that was on Netflix for a while? I didn't know that. Well, no, it was back when you got the DVDs in the mail. Oh, got it. And we paid for, for, because you had to pay extra for getting more than one DVD. And so we paid for the extra to get two DVDs so that, because, you know, you would get the DVD in the mail and you'd watch it and then you'd send it back whenever you were done and then they'd send you the next thing on your list, right? Right, right.

So we got the two so that we could stagger it so that there would be, we could truly binge it and not have to wait. Yeah, right? So that we'd watch one DVD, send it back while we were watching the next one. they'd be sending us the following one in the mail and we just go back and forth like that. You know, there's an alternate timeline, and you're a science podcaster, so this will land well for you. Maybe not. There's no science for alternate timelines.

But there's an alternate timeline where Blockbuster wasn't stupid and saw the Netflix style thing, the rental via mail thing coming, and got on top of it and owned it and there was no Netflix or Netflix was kind of an also ran or you know kind of a red box sort of thing and we are now you know looking at massive series original series is on the blockbuster streaming the blockbuster network yeah which is huge bigger than all of them a big multinational thing with you know the action and and animation and television and comedy and all the big stars and the whatnot and winning Oscars and all this business.

I always think about this. Like, had they just had a little forethought, yeah, it was theirs to have. Because they did try to do what Netflix did, but way too late. Way too late, yeah. It was very obvious that they were like, uh, okay, um, we're,

uh, maybe we should try this. Maybe we don't have any other ideas. Yeah, and it was okay. It was okay. as a service. It's just, it was just too little too late. The name, you know, the name Netflix had become synonymous with the service. And so if I were them, if I would have been them, what I would have done is then had a little more forethought and said, all right, well, let's get ahead of wherever the Netflix thing is that we missed the boat on. And that's streaming.

And just have somebody there who knew, who understood it. They just never had that. It just, in their days where it bums me out. And I don't even know why. I don't care that much about Blockbuster. I just, I'm interested in how that would have played out, I guess. Yeah, something went wrong and they were fumbling or doing something, because it's not that they, the reason they failed couldn't have been because it was just another streaming service, right? Because we have tons of them now. Right. Clearly, people don't, don't just need one. Right. It's, they had to have do something. They needed to get, like, make deals and have exclusives or something like that. Well, you got to remember. Okay. So from a historical standpoint, when Netflix shifted to streaming, it was laughed at they were teased uh it was kind of bad in the beginning they had really crappy selection it was a really kind of limp early day for that service and no one else was doing it because they all thought it was a folly and that's what i got to watch this show on my computer

that's the mistake people made they they couldn't see past it and i and i'm not saying reed hastings is a genius but they could see at least i think they thought they could see past it and they were willing to just push forward and go for it whereas blockbusters is like we're staying with what hey people want to walk in and browse these shelves that's what they want it's like no they don't that shit's going away it seems like they were just not looking at the service right now they weren't looking at what the deliverable is they were looking at what they were building the technology they were building that's right and so they they were they were I think that's probably a big thing they were well we're gonna

keep going because yeah maybe people think it's weird to stream movies and TV onto your computer and sit in your uncomfortable computer chair and watch your your TV show but if we get this the streaming thing figured out we can stream to anything TVs and devices and you know they just they're just staying ahead of of that whole thing it fascinates me so when people make fun of them for having a mobile game service or having uh investing in cloud gaming or any of that and they tease Netflix for it, I always go, I don't know if I'd be teasing them exactly. Like, they kind of cease.

They read the tea leaves. They're not always right, but they might be. So maybe don't scoff at it. Instead, maybe get ready to do your own thing instead of being blockbusters of the current day. I don't know. This has been your edition of Tech Morning Stream, TMS. We hope you enjoyed it.

Taking a little card out of Tom's deck, I guess, today. Anyway, hey, I got some stuff today I want to talk about before we get going, and glad, by the way, to have you here. Did I already say that? Yeah, it's good to have Bobby here. Thanks for stepping in. I can't hear it enough, so you can say to me. I think I've said it like four times today. I think it'll probably do it too much. I feel very welcome. It's nice. Well, and Brian, we wish him nothing but the fastest and most successful recovery from whatever flu bug. One of you, Denver, dirty, greasy Denver tadpoolers gave him when you were all hanging out the other day.

want to be a breathed on him wrong and now he's got the got the bug bug central man i don't know what he has we don't know yet and he's worth it i bet i bet brian thinks it's totally worth it to see all of those great listeners worth every cough every sneeze every headache uh i don't know if he took the covid hopefully it's not covid too because he just had that i don't want that again i don't want that for him again don't have the new covid going around shut up really It's a new variant. It's like BQ1 is what they're calling it.

You know, we had BA5 and BA2. Do they have to put a Q in there? They had to put a cue in. Could they have not done a different letter? We got 26 of them. I wonder, we skipped BK. That would have been a great one. Yeah, the Burger King virus.

Get yours today. It comes with the toy and everything. But seriously, though, like if you're going to give it an... Listen, if you're listening at home, you know why I'm saying this. Don't put Q in things. Because now someone's going to have a like a... fun day of going, oh, you know what this means, the conspiracy deepens, the deep state, the br-bra-bra, it's going to get stupid if this becomes a dominant variant that starts

Be QAnon. No, be not, be not QAnon is my statement I'd like to make. All right, let's get to this thing here. I got a text here. I want to play. I read. This is from an anonymous listener. And this is a follow-up on some Star Wars talk that Brian and I had.

Says, Cod and Ryan, is there any Star Wars series you would watch that takes place outside of any of the Star Wars 1 through 9 timelines? And I got to thinking about this. That's all we have, right? Nothing doesn't at least fit one of the 1 through 9 eras in movies, I mean, and television. So we don't have, I know we have the high, what's the high era or the high, the high empire? High Republic. High Republic. We got a show coming for that, I think, at some point.

Yes. But also, do you consider the Obi-Wan series to be outside of the 1-9 timeline? No. Because it's right before it. Well, it is. Oh, no, no, no. It doesn't because it's right in the middle. It's after.

Yeah. It's in between. So it's still part of that thing. We don't have anything that's prior to Phantom Menace, and we don't have anything. post last Jedi or whatever the last one what was it called the replacement Jedi or hey we're all Jedi here

what is it what was it called what was the last unforgettable film the last Jedi the last Jedi thanks the unforgettable Jedi the unforgettable final Jedi yeah that's the one that's a bad movie anyway we don't have anything past that so personally as much as like the Rides of Skywalker I'm sorry oh is it

Rise of Skywalkers I don't know honestly those three names of the last three movies completely all conflated. I don't have any, I don't have any compass on that at all. Yeah. And I apologize to everybody who thinks that's a bad thing, but those three movies are really throw away for me. But anyway, the point is, uh, nothing past that either. So yeah, there's an opportunity here. And maybe it's with the High Republic. Maybe it's with something else. But, um, but even the best of the stuff, like right now I would argue and or is maybe the most in-depth thing they've done like the most dramatically challenging and like you know uh i don't know off the off the beaten path or kind of off the safety net that they usually stay in with

star wars content and uh i really respect it for that but it's still in that time frame uh a very important part of that time frame so yeah i would like more is the answer i can see i can see post uh star wars one through nine more easily than prior right because like the One through nine, that's, the reason that's a story is because that's when, that's when the troubles began, right? Yeah. That's when Palpatine was making his, his rise to power. That's when the, the, the, the, the, the, the Skywalker's were a thing. You know, that's when it all went down and started, but, um, what do we know about before that?

Was there, like, a, a period of time between the, Darth Revin, period, and the series, the one through nine, was that all like a quiet time for the galaxy? Good question. I know there's a lot of books and stuff, but since none of that is canon anymore, and they can still choose from it if they want to or pull from it. Yeah. I mean, I would love old Republic story stuff. It doesn't have to just... Yeah, that's all really cool stuff.

I love that because there's so much, there's so many, you know, there's so many lightsabers. Yeah, yeah. Lightsaber's everywhere. I mean, and I realize like the games, which is what most people associate with that, you know, there's a story there. And you mentioned Revin and all that. But I would love it if they would just like, I don't know, just give me something brand new. And don't be afraid to do it. Andor is in the timeline, but is the closest they've come to doing something new and surprising me with it. And it doesn't mean I don't like the other stuff. I love Mandalorian and I can't wait for season three. It's not that. It's just. just, you know, just pull out a little bit and go, you know what? We don't have to be so careful with this stuff. Like, go a little nuts. And I don't even know what I mean when I say that. So it's not even really fair. It's not even really a criticism.

It's just I'd like to see more, more like Andor. But give me a timeline that I don't already know about. Yeah, I think these series have shown us that George Lucas did create a very compelling world that everybody likes and that there's lots of room to tell stories in, so let's do more. Maybe he'll walk up to those guys and go, look, I know you paid me $4 billion for this, and I really appreciate it, but I got an idea or two. You open to my ideas. And then they'll say, sure, George, looking good in that sweet turtleneck, what do you have

for us? And he'll say, well, my idea is that Willow and Howard. the duck meet up on tattooing. Like, I think it's dangerous because I don't think he's got good ideas anymore. So don't listen to him is what I'm saying. Right. Really what I was hoping for there was just an opportunity to do my George Lucas impression. And it happened.

Thank you. We all saw right through that, but we liked it anyway. You all knew what was going on the whole time. Anonymous textor, thank you for that. If you'd like to send in your own anonymous or anonymous, I don't care. Have your name on them. nummus. Put your names on there, but it's fine with me. Anyway, that number is 801-47-1-0-4-62. You can text any time for this or any other show on the Frog Pants Network, and we'll read your text on the air. Also, I need your help today. I got a voicemail for the show that I don't know what it means. And it might even be somebody in the chat who made this sound. Let's figure it out. Okay, I'm going to play this for you. What is this voicemail? What do you think that?

What do you think that is? Ow. I don't know who that is or what the deal is. It sounds kind of like TV's Travis. Okay. All right. So now I've got TV's Travis in my head. Let me see if I hear Travis.

Ow. Is he saying owl? I heard hell. Chat room, there's a similarity to this. Oh, Jesus. But it's not quite the same. Ow. I don't know who that is.

TV's Travis is in the chat says it's not him. Okay. I hear Yanny. Laurel, clearly. Yeah, Laurel, come on. I heard green needle. I know what's wrong with you guys. Definitely not me. Someone says it sounds like me. It's not me.

I have no idea. Or what they're trying to say. And why would you just call and leave that? Oh, you know what? I know what this is. Okay, so Mondays and Wednesdays we do the Tad Pooley feud stuff, right? The game show Brian runs. Yeah. When people try to call in to be the live caller, if I don't choose them, either they waited too long and it rings through, or I've already picked someone and someone calls behind them. They go to voicemail. That's probably some of these. So it is someone saying hell. Yeah, it's probably them. It's their consternation. Yeah. It's them going on, man.

Be courteous. They're like, I'm in this time. Yeah, I'm in this time. I'm going to make it. And then they went to voicemail and they're, oh, hell. Hell. He's saying hell. All right, well, whoever that is, I'm sure you're hearing yourself now and going, oops, I would love to know who you are. I think that's awesome. And don't feel bad. You can always leave a voicemail there. If you like, it's fine. We don't always play them on the show, but occasionally I get weird shit like that and I have to play it. All right.

Finally, this morning, I'm going to read an email. Yeah, that's right. An email. Send and receive email. This is from B, who wrote into the morning stream at gmail.com and says you guys have done support before right, even a little. What you're doing is calling an unsupported configuration. I think this is referring to smoke alarms. Smoke alarms, correct. So this is about like the chirping smoke alarms. You were, you and Brian were talking about this and a suggestion you made, Scott, was

why do they make it such a very, very difficult to tolerate sound? Why don't they make it something more pleasant. That's what this is in response. Or not even more pleasant. More, my problem isn't so much the unpleasantness, just for the record here. My problem is it's impossible to locate because, A, right, you're so brief.

We'll read the email, because I think that's a good response. Okay, fair enough. He says, you guys have done support before, right, even a little. What you're doing is called unsupported configuration. I.e., you are shooting yourself in the foot, so stop complaining that it hurts. Ow, bang. Ow, bang. Right? Like Bart does with the electrical cupcake or whatever it was in that episode.

Right, right, right. He says, replace your smoke alarms or batteries long before they go dead or chirp warnings. Nobody does that. Yeah, right. He says that's the only supported configuration and everything else is designed to be as painful as necessary. I do agree with that. You got to know what if a calm, soothing voice whispers to you lovingly about how your battery is, you're never going to replace them.

Love B. well be praise be so i so i do think that in a perfect world you're right in a perfect world i will know when the battery is going to die i will put the battery in i will set some sort of an alarm or a google calendar event it's for a week before it's going to die and then i'll do it but even if i did know how long that battery was going to last i guarantee you the day because i do this with my air filters in the house. I needed to replace those a month ago and they're

still needing to re-replaced. I have the date and I say okay I'll do that tomorrow. Yeah. And then you bump it again. I'm doing something else right now. I'll do that tomorrow. And I've will continue and then the chirp will happen. Yeah. You're not wrong or in the case of the filters you're going to

just be like why is why is it still cold and there's no heat? Oh because the filters is thick as a freaking you know brick. Well, what happens here is that the season changes and then the air conditioner breaks because there's a brick in the return. Okay, here's an idea. I've got this solved. I'm going to agree with the emailer, and I'm going to agree with what you said as well.

I think all of this stuff that we've said is true around this, including my irritation with the chirp. So here's what you do. if the things are supposed to go dead in 10 months, let's say. At month eight, let's have pretty lights or something instead. Something that I'll just notice while I'm in the room. Oh, right. I've got like two months before it starts chirping at me. And then just give me that little window of like, you know what, we need to, we probably should do those early.

Like at least, that's all I'm asking. Instead, you got time bombs. They're basically time bombs that you. You think it's 10 months, but what if you got a 9-volt battery that's just not up to snuff? You know, somebody at the factory just farted one out and it's not great. You put that one up in there in that last three months? How are you even supposed to know until the beep? And you don't even know what room it's in.

Like, I'm telling you, there's better ways still. On top of this very reasonable, logical email, I'm saying there's still ways to improve things, is what I'm saying. And I agree also with the emailer that that I just discus. disagreed that it would work to try to do it ahead of time. I agree that you need it to be annoying because that's how you get it changed. And it's a safety thing. You're trying to make sure your house doesn't completely burn down. But your problem on that episode was not so much that it's annoying and painful. Your problem was that they seem to have configured the tone exactly to the point where it's acoustically impossible to locate which fire alarm it is.

Yeah, because it throws itself, like throwing a voice when people can do that, it throws itself like yelling in a canyon, that second echo, you can't tell where is that? It's way over there, is it? I don't know, we have to wait for the next one. Okay, how long does that take? I don't know. It feels like 20 minutes, but it's probably like one. Oh, beep.

There it. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Was it that way? See, I'm telling you there's a better way There is a better way Because what happens in our house Is it happens in the middle of the night Because it always is in the middle of the night somehow

And so we I get up in the middle of the night And I get out like a wobbly computer chair Underneath each one one at a time And I stand underneath it I'm half asleep and about to fall off of this thing I stand underneath it and wait And I think

And it takes so long between chirps and so it's like, beep, and oh, it wasn't that one. Yeah, if you want to, if you want a good example of a boiling pot never boil, a watched pot never boils, that whole thing, a watched alarm never beeps. And it does, but it doesn't beep as quick as you think it's going to beep. So you think you're standing there in your socks on a wobbly chair for 25 freaking minutes, when really it's been like a minute.

If it would just do it like every five seconds, that would also be better. Same noise. Or just go, and then I'll find it and it's loud and it won't make me sleep and it's not whispering sweet nothing's in my ear I'm telling you look emailer

B I love you as well he said love B at the end and I love you I do I love you but I think there's a better way I do So BioCow says that I was reading about this and that it has to do with the length of the sound waves human ears are about 12 inches apart

ideal for identifying the duration of mid-tone sounds So are you supposed to be able to identify it more easily because it doesn't work? No, I agree. I agree with you. But I understand the thinking. Also, are my ears really a foot apart? That doesn't sound right. Is that true?

I've got a ruler here. Hold on. I mean, I have a big head, so this might be true. I thought I had a ruler. I don't have anything either. I thought I did too. I have this cool controller of the people that Scorn sent me. look at this dude you like this

look at this controller what do you think of this? Whoa yeah it came it came in a flesh box back there you can't see it but Scorn is this new video game it's on it's on Scorn is on game pass so you can actually check it out

pretty easily but it's and Steam and other stuff but basically it's really it's a very gross kind of body horror game it reminds me if if Geiger who else who did books of blood

Clive Barker and oh besides HR Geiger who am I thinking of third one oh the guy made Exist stands

and all the body horror movies I can't think of his name the fly and stuff anyway that guy if those three guys got together and pushed a baby out of their collective vaginas this would be the game

they would make in the controller they would make work with it this is hard to see and focus but there it is isn't that cool just showed up in the mail

anyway that's not what it was that wasn't the point we were trying to measure our heads 12 inches I believe it I've got I think it's about my I'm holding this 6 inch ruler and it goes a little past the middle of my forehead from the ear and so 12 inches about right this is news to me I don't know why I thought

I would have said 8 inches is that is what I would have said for whatever reason 8 inches sounded right to me and uh giving yourself a pretty generous 8 inches yeah I guess that's all I'll say about that. Um, all right, moving on to, uh, oh, so yeah, anyway, if you guys have your own thoughts or feelings on this thing, the morning stream at gmail.com, or you can text your follow-ups. Even right

now, do it in real time. If you want, I'll check them as the show goes on. You can do it at 801-471-0462. It is now time for the news. It's the news and it's brought to you by Skeletor, who was in my dream last night. This is a weird one. Are you sitting? Bobby, you're sitting, right? I am. Okay.

For those of you remember, Daryl Skeles on the show, used to do a bunch of Star Trek stuff with us, and then he just sort of bailed. Evaporated. Evaporated, just had other stuff come up or whatever. Anyway, we're still, there was never any dark business. He became the, what is it, the wanderer? What is that?

What did the Wesley? Oh, the wanderer. No, the traveler, the traveler. the traveler. Traveler. That's what Daryl did. He became the traveler. Yeah, the guy with the weird nose. Not that Daryl has a weird nose, but the guy in that Star Trek episode did. But anyway, Daryl, who were still quite fond of and friends with and all that, there's nothing weird there. Just disappeared and didn't come around anymore. So this seemed a little bit weird since I don't deal with him on the weekly or the daily anymore that he would be in the stream. And this is how he ended up in my dream. In the dream, I'm chasing Skeletor. I'm not He-Man, though, in this story.

dream, but I'm chasing Skeletor. I'm just myself. But he had to be stopped. You know, he's up to no good. He's causing all sorts of shit. You know, saying one-liners and then running off that kind of thing. So I was after Skeletor, just trying to track him down. And I finally did. And at the end of the dream, right before I broke up, woke up, maybe it was the ramen that did this. I don't know. The tin, oh, I didn't say it on the show. It was pre-show. I had some weird ramen, everybody, and it made me weird. we pull his skull mask off, which I don't even think is a thing. I think he's supposed to be a skull. Right.

In the cartoon. But in this version, it was like a covering. So we pull that thing off and underneath that as Daryl Skills. Oh, my gosh. Just looking at me. Yeah. He didn't say anything, though. But if you could say something, let's pick something that he might have said.

Let's see. 1930s? 1930. Hold on. Why can't I find anything with Daryl's name? Okay, there we go. How about this? Let's see. We could do 1930. 1930. It could have been this. Blasters and guns say pew, pew, but phasers say zert. Zert. See, that would have been great. Yeah. That would have been good. Yeah, because he's giving you a little nugget of a fact, fun fact. Yeah. Or that's what you want when you've taken. off Skeletor's mask. It's a fun fact. It could have been this nightmare scenario here.

I can boyfriend talk at the same time. Yeah. Oh, Lord. Oh, my God. That's more of a villainous thing. That is very villainous. That seems like something Skeletor would do. Anyway, very weird dream, and I hope I never have it again. Let's move on to this news story here. All right, so, you know, cops are always trying to find the drugs. That's their deal, you know? They want the drugs. pictures of it while they're standing and behind it. Yeah, that way the news has something they can show as a little B-roll while they're talking about the drugs that were confiscated is the word you would normally use.

Well, officers found $402,000. It's a weird, weirdly specific number of liquid meth, which I didn't know was a thing. I thought, I mean, maybe Breaking Bad is just too prominent in my head, but I didn't know you could do a liquid version of meth-enphetamine. make sense, though, right? You're a scientist, you know, you're a science podcaster. Would you... Well, anything can be a liquid. Is that true? Anything?

If you heat it up enough, it's true. It could turn into a liquid. I'll tell you what, bad raw. Solid liquid gas. Yeah, that's true. All right, so... And it's a crystal, so meth is a crystal, so it could, yeah, it starts as a liquid, and then you... Oh, and then you crystallize it.

Yeah. Oh, that's right, because they put the blue baking pans or whatever in Breaking Bad. So it starts as liquid, then they... harden it, and it turns into that candy-looking blue stuff. And it's one giant sheet, and then they bust it up. Right, right, right. For the record, I've never partaken in any sort of methamphetamine. I have no

idea what it's like. No idea. So I come to this as a complete meth virgin. Okay. Yeah. I don't know anything about it. Anyway, officers with, oh, I missed the important part. This is all liquid meth hidden inside condom filled pumpkins. Ooh, spooky Halloween story. condom filled pumpkin.

So not just in the pumpkins or just in the condoms, but they put it in the condoms and then in the pumpkins. Then in the pumpkins. That's where you hide them, see. Officers with U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the C.PBP, rather, sees 44 pounds of liquid meth that was hidden inside condoms packaged with pumpkins. Let's see, this is on Tuesday.

Officers, last Tuesday, with the C.B.P. You keep seeing PB for some reason. the Office of Field Operations at the Eagle Passport entry encountered a 2012 Ford Escape I don't know why the year in the make matter I don't get that but whatever arrived from Mexico In case you wanted to build a model of the scene

Is that like a little diorama? I like that Yeah Vehicle was referred for a second inspections Officers recovered or discovered 44 pounds of alleged liquid methamphetamine 36 condoms that were packaged inside four pumpkins. The drugs and vehicles were seized. Seged? They weren't sieged. There was no sieging.

Seized and the driver and passenger of the vehicle were turned over to the Maverick County Sheriff's Office. Maverick. That was a terrible whistle. Let's see. Our front line CBP officers have seen just about everything and this Tuesday was no exception as they encountered this liquid meth hidden within Pumpkin, says acting port director Elizabeth Garan, sorry, Garuno. Ego Passport entry said in the release, they utilized their training, experience, interviewing skills, and uncovered a rather novel narcotic smuggling method in the process. Interviewing skills. Yeah, you know, you got to say, all right, is this your first, you know, meth, border meth?

I wonder how they do on America's Next Top Podcast. They probably, well, it depends if they flame out, like, some people did last year. So 136 condoms, four pumpkins, that's 34 meth-filled condoms per pumpkin. How many condoms do you think you could fit into a pumpkin? Oh my gosh. In one pumpkin? But with meth in the things are just loose condoms.

I'm sure you could put a lot more than packaged condoms a lot more than 34 in a pump. Yeah, that's true. you could probably pack of thousands in there if you did it right. I don't know if they're full of stuff like this. And it doesn't say what the capacity of the balloons are because I've filled some water balloons before. You can get them pretty big, pretty plump.

But you wouldn't want to go too big. What size condoms are we talking about here? Well, magnums. Let's say magnums. Okay. Or whatever they're called. I don't know what they call them. That one's for the big boys, you know.

I feel like some people buy those just so they can say that's what they buy, but they don't actually need them that big. You know what I'm saying? I could be wrong, but It's like, you know You know how like women's sizes Go down to zero Yeah

It's like the other way around For condoms Yeah, nobody wants to admit Oh, I need the little tight ones You have those? They name them, there's no small condoms They're just like They start at large

Yeah As the old saying goes There are no Magnum and Enormous I'll have a pack of the enormous Condoms Yeah, I'd like the biggest you got in

Yeah, nobody asked for small ones. The old phrase is, there are no small condoms, only small men. That's the phrase, huh? That's the old, that's the old term, you know? That's the old saying. Yeah, I feel like it needs to be revived a little here in 2022. Anyway, the meth was worth an estimated $402,196. How do they get that number?

I don't know. Is there like a website you can go to to get the, what's the running? rate of meth on the street like do they ask people maybe the CBP has some expert who does like this exact thing like they weigh it and then they go all right street values currently this they do the but that's what I want to know how do they know the street value oh probably probably find out from just other I don't know like other arrests or knowing what the drug markets I don't know how you do that just the last time they heard meth being sold I guess yeah also when you price. So what do you do with these, though? Okay, someone takes delivery of all the pumpkins.

They're loaded with condoms that are loaded with with meth liquid. Now what? Do they take them and are they the final mile? Are they the ones that go, all right, get out the cookie sheets. We're going to make the blue meth like, you know, like they do on breaking bad. Or do they take these things and inject them? Is it an injectable drug even? Can I snort some liquid? Is that a, that's probably bad. I know nothing. Much like you, I don't know. My entire knowledge of meth is all breaking bad. I think that's probably true for a lot of, a lot of middle, a lot of middle class white guys, is my guess. We just don't know. How do we know? My wife, I think, knows a little bit more. She's a pharmacist, and they had like some sort of DEA person or something come in and

and show how meth was made, they just left one of the steps out. Which I still, to this day, don't know why. Like, as a pharmacist, how is that benefiting you? Yeah, I don't know how that helps. That's weird. Yeah. Well, okay, someone in the chat says you smoke it,

but you don't smoke it in liquid form. I guess you could put it in vape pens or something. And then that would... Oh, maybe. But doesn't that have to be like an oil? I don't know. I don't understand these things. I don't know how vape works either. Well, vape is like a their little e-pen. and they have a, I started this as if I knew, and now I'm going to stop, because I don't know.

I don't know. You're like, well, let me tell you, Bobby. I don't have no idea. Also, I would have thought, I don't know, I think it has to be in a thicker, almost solid form in a pen to then be vaporized. Or maybe that's not true. Can you shake a pen? It's probably easier to turn a liquid into a vapor, since that's what a vapor is. Science again, man.

The science. I don't know what to do with it all. Well, anyway, good luck to them, and I hope whoever got the pumpkins, or whoever was going to get those pumpkins isn't disappointed that they were full of meth. They probably threw those away, right? Would you be disappointed? I mean, what would you do? Okay, your border patrol, you just received all this. The drugs obviously have to be taken into custody. You know, you confiscate the drugs.

Take them out of circulation. What do you do with the pumpkins? Do you throw them? I assume the pumpkins have to have to, they're part of it. evidence as well, right? Oh, is that true? See, then now I've got a real problem because now you're stacking some holding cell or not holding cell, whatever, the evidence room or whatever with a bunch of pumpkins? That's a nightmare. And those aren't going to last. Everybody who puts a pumpkin on their front porch knows that those rot pretty quick. Yeah, you want a stinky nightmare in your

life? Have an old pumpkin around. Do that. Or a meth user. Either one. All right. Moving on. Hey, I don't know if you heard about this. I know everybody else in their dog did. Oh, no, I don't want to skip this one. Never mind. Here's a different story. I'm doing this one. Police got a spooky 911 call from an empty funeral home. Ooh. It's not unusual for police to dispatch or for their dispatchers to answer 911 calls only to have the caller hang up. It happens in Pueblo earlier this month. So it's a Colorado story. Brian, if you're there listening. Let's see. What happened next may strike some as a little spooky on August 11th. I don't know why we're hearing about it now.

Well, because it's Halloween. Pueblo Police Department Communications Center. Got a call they referred to as an abandoned 911 call at 328 AM. And it sounded a little bit like, hold on, this. Oh. Just kidding, that's ours. I kid, I joke. But I do have a link to the actual call.

We're going to see if we can play it. Let's see here. We may have to listen to some stupid news first. Okay, here we go. let's see what we get out of this okay why is it not running is it because I have an ad blocker probably okay

how about we just okay let's change the okay great CBS News you've ruined my day and I can't damn it okay let me turn off shields for this page fine if they subject me to an ad

I'm going to be so mad ah it doesn't work gosh dang it the whole fun of this story is to play the call The build-up and the letdown. Oh, I know. Oh, here it is.

Okay, I got audio version. Okay. Let me crank this up so we have some volume. All right, here we go. Hello? Hello? Hello? They're whispering.

Yeah. Hello Okay Can you hear them going to Yeah Maybe that's people in the dispatch center though It could be Or is it?

It's more fun to imagine that it's It could be a ghost At the cemetery See right now I'm a little freaked out I'm looking around my studio It's a little dark in here a little freaked out not really so

so is the is the so is a cemetery a funeral home mortuary yeah yeah mortuary so so I guess the creepy thing

is that it happened at night and that no one was there correct it's not it's not that the funeral home was abandoned and then right it's not like we know that old farmer Jones

murdered someone there and now it's all you know we don't have any of that We just know, it's probably, like they said, in the chat, they said somebody probably butt dialed. But why would it be the number of the mortuary, though? That's not a butt, unless they're using just cell phones for their phones. I don't know. All I know is I'm playing mortuary simulator, or no, mortuary assistant.

And that game is scary as hell. And now I got a, oh, now I got to, I have to question whether I'm playing more of that. Oh, is that one of those, like, that game that mixes like horror and chore core together? Yeah. Yeah. There's a story, and you're supposed to be doing short court at the same time, which I'm used to. I like doing that. Like, here, I'll give you a taste of this.

I did a little bit of this the other day, and I recorded seven minutes of it. I mean, I'm in, seven, no, maybe this would be fine. Okay, hold on. Rebecca. Oh, shit. Perfect timing. Okay. What do you look?

Why is your wallpaper? Anyway, it's a great video. You should go watch it. It's on YouTube. And if you want to see why that game shouldn't be allowed to be in people's hands, you can check it out for yourself. It's also supremely frustrating. like the actual chore car part of it is hard and frustrating

and I think that it's on purpose I think they did that to make it because most of these games they try to gamify things like flipping houses or power washing a car or whatever the chore core is they gamified in such a way that it's actually fun and kind of addicting and all of that

the actual chore core in this game is hair-pullingly frustrating I bet you it is on purpose because they want you to focus on, like, oh, I've got to get, I've got to figure this out. And so you're really focused on getting the task done and then they can jump in with the jump scares. Yeah, it's really, I mean, that's why I put a seven and a half minute super cut up and not the whole video, because that was two hours of me fiddling with the freaking mechanics of the damn game.

And then intermittently, something terrible would happen, like a corpse would sit up and go, hello, or, you know, whatever they did. That doesn't sound scary at all It's a weird game, dude Hello! Hello! I'll be your guide! All right, so there's that.

And then now finally this story. BTS, you know, you're familiar with the K-pop band, BTS? Do we know what BTS stands for? Yeah, it's for buttered toast starving, I think. Better than... Better than Cezra. better tan sol no that's not it beat terry scrimshaw i have no idea what it stands for i'm sure it

means oh big taco sizzle no what's the chat say behind the scenes blind torture sizzle no better than spice girls but taco salsa i don't like that one at all anyway whatever it stands for they are now going to be serving in the south korean military and regrouped as a band in 2025 in the BTS Army which is a significant

formidable bunch of human beings who really They do already have a military experience Yeah exactly right So they'll be fine They're in the

the BTS Army now Yeah Anyway they got to serve their mandatory military duties under South Korean law Their management company said A week ago Monday Effectively ending a debate

on whether they should be granted exemptions because of their artistic accomplishments. Somebody told me they were going to, it was going to hit the economy of South Korea to the tune of like $9 billion to have them not around doing things. Yeah, because I just thought of that too, because my first thought was, of course they shouldn't be exempted just because they're superstars. But no, like, I guess that is a question that they have to consider because it's a big, big source of economic stuff. I don't know if the words are,

but they get a lot of money from just how we export a lot of our media. That's a big source of income, I'm sure, for them. Yeah, plus, I can't think of any other time where a boy band, I know that they don't like to be called. I know that fans don't like that term, but a band made of young boys and men is not an...

Like boys, two men. Or backyard men or... No, what was that called? man. What was that called? Backstreet boys is what I meant. There you go. Backyard men.

Don't listen to backyard men. That's bad. I think we should start our own band, our own boy band. And call it backyard men. I'm in. Brian is in, you're in. Let's get all the bill. Everybody can be a part of backyard men, except Nicole.

She'll be our manager. Anyway, that we're not, that's not unusual over here. We got a lot of, you know, boy band experience. But I don't think any have had this sizable impact that that BTS thing has over there or here or anywhere. Like it's, it is a legitimately monstrous thing. And in a way, it's like too many eggs in one basket because when you have this law that says everybody has to go do this at a certain age. And they're willing to do it, by the way. They're like, yeah, we're just what we do.

We support our country. We do it. I mean, they're not like being weird about it. They're ready to go. It's just that when you have that many eggs in that basket economically, it feels a little weird, you know? Like this would be like us. Oh, if Taylor Swift stops doing music, the, the U.S. government will be brought to its knee. It's weird.

It's just a weird thing, you know, to have that crossover like that. But anyway, they're going. They're going. Big hit music. Oh, it's big hit music. No, no, no. That's their, sorry. that's their that's a bt s big hit big hit music you know rings a bell chat room said the actual thing

where is it uh uh let's see the septet's name btssts stands for the korean phrase bang tan soyanada bang tan soyanada literally meaning bulletproof boy scouts why aren't they bbs because then they'd be a bullet and board service and then they'd be bulletproof boy scouts ounce is kind of a cool name. I'm in, I think. I think I like that, too. I like it better. But BBS means you're going to log in with your 44K modem and download some gifts, you know. Yeah. Some gifts of hot Korean men.

Yeah, hot Korean men who have to serve in the military, making them even hotter. Anyway, they're no longer going to delay this. They're going. So I think BTS people are a little bit sad about it. And I wish them well, you know. I've never seen anyone stand like they do. they're the standiest of all stands it's insane and more power to you i don't quite get it but it's okay it's like brian's love of the spice girls i don't really get it but i respect it and i

think it's great and he should love him it's like me and mad max who who else talks about that thing like i do nobody but it's okay literally nobody literally no one as they say on social media too much all right we're going to take a break when we come back bill de rand himself will be here we have an email for him which we'll get to But after that, some other stuff, too. So we've got things coming up. Oh, and we're going to, we'll talk a little science, even though you're just here as a guest host today.

You'll also, you know, I don't know. I've got something. If we have time for it, I've got something. Absolutely. I think that'd be great. In the meantime, I'm going to break for a song. And boy, it would have been good if I thought of this before. What music am I going to do today?

Oh, I know what I'm going to do. I found a cover. I actually told Brian about it separately outside of the show. But I'm going to go ahead and play because I liked it so much. This is, I was watching the Handmaids tale. catching up on it. Great show. Although it might, they may as well call it the, what's her name? This actor

plays June. Can't think of her name. Main actor. She's huge. She's in lots of things. Can't they give her name. Keep stalling. Anyway, that lady. Elizabeth Moss. Elizabeth Moss, thank you so much. They may as well call this show. Elizabeth Moss stares at the camera because there's a lot of that. Or this season, Elizabeth Moss gets creepily angry.

Yeah, gets really mad. And then the camera's just above her brow line and she looks all evil as she stares into the camera. And then they play cool covers like this one. This is Chain from the Handmaid's Tale. Oh, come on, Scott. Where's the actual artist? I want to give credit here. Oh, Poopie Miss Scoopy.

I can't find it. We'll recently play it. Here we go. Okay. Chain. Nope. That's Pink Floyd. I got that up there.

The Tarzan thing. Okay, that's cool. Here we go. Nope. That's Hiroshima. of that Brian told me about they're awesome. That song's awesome. Let's see. Nowhere Generation.

Well, I can't find it. So, you know, the problem of having a three-year-old around the house all the time is this is full of Disney soundtracks and it bumps all my stuff down. So. I core just blew my mind and said that Elizabeth Moss was President Bartlett's daughter. Oh, yeah. I didn't, I forgot that. Totally. That was her first big deal.

And then off to Mad Men and then everything else since then. And she's very good. She's just, boy, she's sternly, she's sternly staring at everything now. That's her deal. I think this show has won this or maybe one more season, because I think they're playing their last card, which is they're really trying to milk the most out of angry Elizabeth Moss. Oh, yeah.

Get her while she's hot. And I think this might be it. This is the final season, I think, season five. Is it officially the final season? I don't know if it's official. I don't know. It's probably, probably a good time. I feel like they're getting to a place. But who's really good in this thing is Stravinsky or whatever her name is, the blonde lady from Chuck. I can't think of her name. Yvonne Stravinsky. Is that it? She's amazing. She's really good.

Anyway, we'll play this song. This is by an artist who's awesome, whose name I don't know. And it's a version of chain or The Chain or Break the Chain or however the hell the original went from Fleetwood Mac. this is that version of that we're going to play it now and when we come back Bill and much more so stick around we'll be right back

to listen to the window watch the sunrise running the sunrides burning the shadows down your love down your life Listen to the wind blow Watch the sunrise

Burning the shadows Down you love, damn your eyes And if you don't love you now, you will never love me again. I can still hear you say you will never break the chain. And if you don't love you now, you will never love me again. I can still hear you say you will never break the chain. Never break the chain. Listen

Never break the chest Never break the chest Never break the chest Listen to the window Listen to the window Burning the shadows down you love down your life. Break the silence, down the dark down the light. If you're in the shadows

That I'll never open a lot And if you don't love me And if you don't love me now You will never love me again I can still hear you say You'll go up with the train And if you don't love me now you will never love me again i can still hear the same you will never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never break the chain ever break the chain never break the chain ever break the chain never break the chain ever break the chain ever break the chain never break the chain ever break the chain never break the chain never break the chain never

Never break the chain, never break the chain, never break the chain, never break the chain, never break the chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, never break a chain, I have to break the chain Hey break the chain Have I break the chain Have I break the chain Hey break the chain

Have I break a chain Yeah break the chain You know I'm looking out You will never love me again I can still hear you say You will never break the chain

And if you don't love me now You will never love me again I can still You'll never break the chain Never break the chain Never break the chain It's never break the chain Never break the chain

You will never break the chain You will never break the chain It's not a boy hole or a girl hole or a lady hole. It's a manhole. manhole men go down to work there welcome to surfing for seniors an introduction to the internet the morning stream I was born without a conscience and we're back that was a chain cover from a band I don't you guys will know though

see now you look brine leaves for a hot five minutes and i don't know what the fricks going on with music ever he's really good at it i'm bad at it anyway i know i like that song so that's all i can tell you all right bobby uh it's time it's time to bring in the guy the man the myth the punish props uh founder and uh uh lover of of of all things making. Really, I'm just killing time while I add him to the thing. All right, here we go. Here's this deal.

Your bat caves open there, Bill. Bill Duran joining us all the way from Punished Props.com. You know where that is? Well, it's somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. We're not going to get specific here. Why would we do that? But it's Bill DeRan joining us. Hi, Bill.

How are you? Hello, just hanging out here, me and Sasquatch. Yeah, yeah. I'm in the woods and somewhere vaguely near Seattle. I got a, so I got a friend. I don't know if I've ever told you this guy. this friend who don't we're not that good of friends but I know him

anyway he's a professor now at Brigham Young University in Provo kind of a big shot over there and every fall he flies up to where you live and looks for Bigfoot with his dad yeah and I'm just going to say

I feel like somebody who believes that hard in Bigfoot who's willing to go there every time and they think this is the time we're going to catch him I feel like he should shouldn't be allowed to teach at a college level, you know? Do you think it's just for fun, though? There's got to be some people who just go and do that just for fun. Well, having talked to him at length, he wholeheartedly believes that Bigfoot exists.

And his dad is really into it. And all growing up, he grew up out in Seattle area somewhere. And all growing up, they were convinced of it. They thought they had photos a bunch of times. They bought into every siting they heard about. Like, they're kind of hardcore about it. Now, could things have changed? He teaches, he doesn't teach anything like science or anything.

He teaches, um, it's advanced, it's advanced physical education, I think. Whatever that ends up being in a college level. I don't, I don't know what you actually do. Um, advanced physical education, like chasing down, tracking. Yeah. Bigfoot. Yeah. Or having lots of hair physically, you know?

I don't know. It's weird, but, um, good luck to him. Anyway, Bill, you've never seen anything out in the woods, right? anything worth noting? Okay. See? I mean, I've seen things in the woods, Scott, but not a big foot. That's good to know. Real quick, I have an email for you before we get going today. You're ready for this? It's not what I warned you about, but it's not hard either. So, here you go. Hi, guys, says Charles. Did Bill lose a finger making something? I could have sworn, although he said, I could have soared. I heard it somewhere. I think he meant sworn. Maybe you can ask him on the show.

Love the show, Charles. Well, Charles would like to know, have you, have you lost a finger? I feel like you told us a story, but I think it was about a friend who lost his story. Yeah, I still have all my fingers. Thank goodness. I haven't had anything, any close, anything close to that level of danger. My worst injury was a hot glue gun. I burned the palm of my hand with a lot of hot glue. That's probably the worst I've done. Are you like? But now my buddy, Jimmy DeResta, cut off his pinky on a table saw quite a few years ago. And they stuck it back on. Oh, he's still got it. He's got it. Okay. That's cool.

You can tell. Yeah. But he's pretty okay about it. That's awesome. So you've never come close, as far as you know, to whacking a finger off? No, I'm, especially with things like a table saw, I am just like extremely paranoid and super safety conscious. That's good. There's nothing wrong with that.

So we have two things here. One, Charles, you got the wrong guy. And two, be safe. Always be safe. All right? Think about the best advice is think about the task you're doing. doing right now. When your mind starts to wander to the next task and you stop focusing on what you're doing, that's when you get hurt. There you have it. All right, one final thing I wanted

to mention from Troy. We got one that said, hey, snoot and boop. I was wondering if it would be too much trouble. Could you please add Bill's YouTube recommendations to the quickt ms.lisite as well. I'm often out walking or running and listening and forget where it was by the time I get back home. Thank you both for being shining beakings of fun and frivolity. Warm regards Troy. Yeah, we're going to start doing that. Brian's set it up so that the daily posts that we do there, like for recommendals, songs that Brian's played, although today I don't know what he's going to do for my horrible song selection. But anyway, we'll include Bill's stuff on Tuesday as well when he gives us a

YouTube recommendation. So thanks for the suggestion. We're doing it. All right, Bill, let's get to the point here. You've been working on some stuff. What's going on that we can be inspired about? Yeah, so I'm working on a project using brass and I wanted to talk about brass. I started using it more and more and I want to be a brass advocate today. I want to encourage more people to dip their toe in the metal working world. I really love the material. I get brass from a variety of sources. So probably one of the best places to start. You ever go into a hobby store and they've got a display there of KNS brass with like tubes and stuff? Yeah, I always wondered about that. They're almost like

dow rods type looking. Right. Brass, yeah. That's such a great place to start. It's smaller pieces. It's thinner. It's cheap. And they have so many options as far as shapes and all that. What is brass from a, from like a metallurgic standpoint?

Is it like a pure mineral? Is it a tin with a color? I don't know where brass comes from. Do you know? It's mostly copper and zinc. Okay. Yeah, but there are different alloys as well and different mixtures and kinds of. combinations with other stuff in there.

Sure. Interesting. I was just curious. Other places to get it. Hardware stores have some options, usually not great. You can find a lot of stuff on Amazon, but it's kind of hard to search for specifically what you want. And then there's a, I use a website called Online Metals, and that's a metal supplier.

So you can just type in the alloy, the type of metal, the size, the shape, like you can find exactly what you want there. So there's tons of options. What was that called again? online metals online metals that's cool yeah and it's a Seattle company too which is great because when I order stuff from there

it shows up the next day yeah and then there's tons and tons of forms in fact if you go to the online metals website and search you'll see a drop-down menu of all the different shapes you can get in lots of different dimensions and sizes so you can get a solid bar

or rod and a variety of shapes like round or half round or square rectangular hexagon. You can get tubes of various shapes. You can get wire. It comes in so many forms. You can get titanium from them. It sounds expensive. Yeah, that's cool. Awesome. What's great, though, is like if you know kind of what you're making, you can order the material to be almost already that size and shape. There's so many options out there. The alloys, if you're just getting started, you probably don't need to worry too much about it. Um, whatever you, if you buy the brass at the hobby store, you're just going to get whatever they have.

Uh, if you do a lot of machining, though, you might want to get like, um, C360. It's just a specific alloy that's considered good for machining. Um, but it's just worth being aware of if you're going to go buy, buy brass. If you have a specific purpose, you might need to get a specific alloy. Is it weird? I kind of want to buy a bar of titanium from these people. Is that weird? It's a little weird.

No, I have, like, there's something about a heavy, hunk of metal. Yeah. I found just some chunks of steel on the side of the road on a walk, and I just kept them. They're just these rusty, gnarly chunks of steel, but they're just...

There's something about it. I don't know what it is, about big... I have an ingot of pewter that I have on my desk. Is it part of the... Whenever you say pewter, I think it's like, the Civil War reenactment set,

only available from... Whatever, whatever. I was always commercials for that when I was growing up. Oh, yeah. Ingets are awesome. I want more things. stored in ingots. Same. You know, that's why you like Factorio so much. You're making

ingots all day. That's right. Yeah, yeah. It's good stuff. Anyway. Now, the reason I wanted to encourage people to get into working with brass is because it's actually easier than you might think, especially if you're working with something smaller or thinner. Some of the thinner sheets of brass, you could just cut with tin snips.

You can do a lot of the work you might need to do with pretty basic tools. A rotary tool will help you grind or shape or drill holes or even cut your metal. And then you can attach it all with solder. You can just use there's all sorts of different ways to solder

and if you want to solder brass or braze brass you should look it up. But you can basically just glue metal together with other metal and it's really fun. Very satisfying. I'll bet. Oh my gosh. So does it rust? Does brass rust? Or is that

the point of? It will tarnish. Yeah. Okay. it'll be more of a greenish tarnish is that what happened to the um they always talk about how the the original statue of liberty was was uh what color it's green now so it's copper yeah it was originally more like an orangey copper yeah now it's all weird and green and when you see that original um version of it in a color photograph which are rare but if you see that it's shocking it's like is that even the same damn thing and also i just want to tell everybody if i don't know if you've noticed this If you zoom in and crop out just the face of Lady Liberty, she looks like Elvis.

She has a little bit. Yeah. Just something I noticed. I don't know what the French were doing, but, you know, thanks for the gift. Anyway. You said gluing things, gluing metal with other metal. Isn't that, am I wrong about this? Isn't that essentially what welding is, is taking two pieces of metal and turning them into one piece?

Right. Welding does do that. Braising does not. brazing, the filler material does not melt the base material at all. So it is closer to a glue. Whereas welding will melt the base material

and the filler material and they will become the same piece of material. Interesting. So, yeah, brazing is way easier. You need just a blow torch and some solder. And it's actually surprisingly strong, but it's not going to give you the same strength as a weld. What if you're making like little sculptures out of brass?

And that doesn't matter. Yeah. One of my very favorite things you can do with brass is you can etch it with acid. It's friggin' awesome. You basically make a stencil on your brass or a resist of some kind that will block the

acid, and then you dunk it in ferric chloride, and it will just eat away everything else. This is a great way to make really tiny, intricate things out of brass. In fact, this is the way a lot of pieces were made for spaceship model parts excuse me, for old

when they did that to make movies. Oh, that's cool. They would make really intricate little pieces and panels out of brass that were really thin by acid etching it. That's cool. Have you done any of that yet? Is that something you're going to do? I sure have. Yeah. My, uh, I made a Hellboy bullet and the casing is made out of brass. And to put the text on the back of it, I made a little stencil and, uh, soaked that part in acid. And it etched the letters into it. And it looks so legit. If you decided to go full serial killer, you'd have all the cool stuff you need. You know that? You'd have everything. You got all the acid. You got, like, weird tools. You got metal crap you could use. You got scary swords.

Lots of plastic cheating. Yeah. But you, I mean, you know, you put yourself in your, I don't know, your N7 freaking armor. You'd be pretty formidable. Show up in some grandma's garage and, you know, I don't know. You're ready to go is all I'm saying. I'm not saying you to fall back on that, but it's Halloween. We can dream.

All right. Perfect response. All right. It's very cool. So end game is what for this? What are your big plans? What are you going to? So I'm building this brass butterfly from Arcane.

And I'll have to do a bunch of different operations. I'll do some machining. I'll do some turning on the lathe. And I'm going to be doing some soldering as well. I got some of those, some of the tubes I got, they're round tubes. They all nest perfectly into one another. They're telescoping. It's really neat.

So I'll use those to make the legs. It's going to be fun. That's very cool. I can't wait to see it. Sounds like a video forthcoming, so keep your eyes on punishprops.com, you guys, because that will show up there. All right, the aforementioned bonus link.

What do you have for us this week? This is an older video that Adam Savage made over on tested. He made a watering can out of brass. And so if you're interested in learning about working with brass, it's a great video to watch. It takes flat sheets and folds them and bends them and sodders them together and makes a watering can and it's very enlightening oh that's awesome i heard they were uh they finally the podcast ended is that true yeah oh yeah this is only a test has hit its front they did like

10 years of them or something yeah it was a long time uh they i really enjoyed that show sad to hear it was going but uh pretty cool uh yeah go check that out the uh the tested uh youtube channel still going strong and uh oh yeah you guys can go check out what adam is doing over there who looks like he's in great shape these days. I need to find out what he's eating. I got to get on that. Having seen him in the last couple months, I would say that Adam is doing great. Yeah, it seems like he's doing great. Well, there you go. It's Bill to Rand, everybody, and don't forget, or don't forget, type PunishProps.com into your browser and then bookmark it, because there's always something cool going on over there or subscribe to the YouTube channel.

It's that simple. Builderan, everybody, Punish Props.com. Bill, have a good one. We'll talk to you later. See you later. I didn't mean to cut them off. I try and to cut off bill he's not my you know not my favorite to cut off but i did yeah uh all right too nice of a guy that's right he is too nice of a guy also another nice guy is this other guest we have on on this day that happens to be sitting here co-hosting with us so we're just going to play his theme anyway because you're here why not science we're going to do a little science hey bobby what did you bring what science experiment do you have now um i am going to talk about an experiment a paper that was written um you're going to ask you a question first though go what do you know

about how science like in the media has treated video games and kids uh science or like how is it portrayed in the media this the science behind and and how and the connection between video games and kids well even when there's a positive story about science and gaming and how it either affects people or, you know, even if it's a positive story, let's say, about problem solving, okay? Yeah. I've seen these before. Even when they do that, it's still draped in, it's still introduced like, you might

think video games are just a waste of time or ruining your kids' lives or rotting their brains, but a new study suggests they always frame it like that. Right, right, right. I hate it. Assuming, assuming that the connection between video games and kids is somehow negative. You're right, but here's a spin that's positive somehow. Like, that's how they always spin it. I hate it.

It's annoying. Yeah, it always started like with, with, there's some connection between violence and, or, like, behavioral or anger issues or something like that. And then more recently, it's about depression. There's just generally rotting your brain. And then, you know, there's a screen time issues and limitations that are a big deal right now, which there is some evidence about that. So I don't want to say that that last thing is necessarily wrong or anything. But the point is that when it comes to video games, there's always this negative sort of association, right?

Right, right. Well, there's a study that recently was done. It was a study of almost 2,000 children in the U.S. that showed that those who reported playing video games for three or more hours per day performed better on certain cognitive skills tests than kids who did not play. video games at all. Oh my gosh, that's pretty good. But see, you didn't start it with video games. Are they a hellscape? Or are they good? Well, a new study. So you didn't do that part. But without that part, this is actually pretty compelling. I'm interested in why the time,

why three hours, why not something else? Why is that the baseline? That's a good question. The reason that they chose three hours a day, because they did break up the participants into only two groups. It was children who reported not playing any video games. and then children who played video games for three or more hours a day. And the reason that they chose that benchmark or that threshold was because it exceeds the current American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines for video game time for kids of that. Because the recommendation is one to two hours a day. And so they wanted to pick something that was beyond that because they were kind of trying to

test the threshold to see if there was anything interesting going on, anything to look at, something that was definitely beyond the recommendation that we could say, what are we seeing beyond that recommendation? And they found that there might be some... So how did the study actually work was they... It was done at the University of Vermont Burlington, which... Oh, they got the coat factory there, the Burlington Coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where they do coat science.

Oh, fantastic. Good stuff there, yeah. Jacket science. yeah they uh or or hats you always go there you always see the fedora's being sold yeah but now but now knowing i can go there and find out how video games are good for me that's really exciting yeah yeah so they analyzed data from nine and ten year olds that were in the a bcd study which is the adolescent brain cognitive development study and what this was is there's a bunch of so so there will be studies that are done like this where they they find a very large group of kids and they get a bunch of volunteers to, or not just kids, it'll happen

in all sorts of different age groups, but it's this idea of you get a large population and you get them to all come in and fill out this big, massive survey, and then those people are going to be followed up on over a number of years, right? These long, they're called longitudinal studies. Right. And, um, and, um, I didn't know they had a term for that. That's interesting. Never heard of that. Yep. It's a longitudinal study. It's a, it's, um, it's, it's, um, it's, it's, it's, um, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Is there a latitudinal study as well? Like, does it go both ways? Latitude and longitude?

No? That's where I'm, I can't think of anything funny to say in response to that. So I'm just going to move past it. That's totally fine. It's move right by. It's totally good. So it's the adolescent brain cognitive development study. They had a bunch of kids that came in and filled out a bunch of surveys,

and they follow up with them with more surveys, with more testing that's done, cognitive testing, fMRI testing that's done. And with these kids, they took 2,000 kids from this study, ages 9 to 10, and they, like I said, broke them up into two groups. No video games at all, according to the survey that they did, and kids who had three or more hours a day of video games. It's a pretty big sample size, by the way, and that seems big. Yeah, it is. I expect you to say it was like 28 kids in a room, and it's not. It's much bigger than that.

It's 2000, which is a lot, which gives the study strength because there's more data to look at. And so they evaluated their performance on two tasks. One task reflected their ability to control impulse behavior. And another one tested their ability to memorize information. They also, while they were doing these activities, would look at brain activity and fMRI. Not while they're playing video games, but while they're playing video games, but while they're testing these tasks about impulse control and about memorization. And the results were that, like I said, children in the video games group were faster

and more accurate on both of the cognitive tasks. And in the fMRI results, which are... So an fMRI for anybody who doesn't know is just a brain imaging. They can look at what's happening inside the brain. While they're going, right? They're hooked up at the time. And that's the cool thing about an fMRI is you can look at... what's actively happening inside the brain where activity is during a task.

Right. And they found high activity in regions associated with attention and memory, which makes sense because they were doing a memory task. Right. They saw, and it was higher activity in the video games group. In the video games group, they also saw higher activity in frontal brain regions, which are parts of the brain were more cognitively, difficult tasks are processed in the front of your brain which again impulse control is a cognitively challenging

task and so the really interesting thing though was they saw lower activity in the video games group in regions related to vision oh weird yeah and such a majorly visual medium

that surprises me exactly and so they speculate because so one thing to know is that low activity in a brain region does not mean that there's a deficit necessarily, it just means that there's lower activity. So you've got to wonder why that is. And they speculate, they don't know this for sure, but they speculate that it could be because there's so much

video game playing going on, which is a very visual task, that the brain may be more efficient at processing visual information. Interesting. It may have learned efficiency. That's interesting. So, did they say what kind of games the kids played? Did they get into that?

I would not. That's one of the things that I would like to know more about is what kinds of... Because certainly, you of course know, and I'm sure most listeners know, that there's a lot of different genres that have different, probably have different demands. Oh, yeah. Like lots. If this is just kids all playing, you know, Call of Duty, that's less interesting to me than if it was a mix of things and there were some puzzle games, maybe some point-click adventure games where puzzle solving is front and center all the time or, you know, know that's that sort of thing more narrative driven like i would love to know what that part of this was that was my that could be maybe a follow-up study is looking at so now we know these things now let's just look at gamers in general and let's look at the differences between the types of games that they play maybe there's differences there no jc calhoun asks no they did not measure how leit of a gamer they were oh leitness wasn't measured this is a

crock study that's going to be a follow-up study too leitness great great also you know I'd love to know if I don't know how you do this study but companies game publishers and developers are always trying to find ways to cut back toxicity in especially multiplayer games and it's a struggle right that's hard to do and you can do a lot of different kind of tricks and stuff to get people to do certain things I've been playing a lot of overwatch too and you know they've got a couple of things going on there one is they've got AI and analyzing toxic behavior and then coming up with some models based on that. I don't know what they're going to do with that machine learning, but that's one thing. They also have the endorsement system at the end of a match. You can endorse your fellow players if they thought they did a good job or whatever. So there's like these little subtle things here and there. But games like that, League of Legends, other competitive style games, notorious for this problem.

I'd be curious about like if any of this study leads to, first, their studies to try to trap down some of that. Like what is it about this stuff that brings out that behavior? Is it purely an age range thing and kids are just stupid at that age? Or like what are those factors? That's fascinating to me. Yeah. And I think it's definitely going to lead to more studies because that's one of the things

that the paper emphasizes is that this is just sort of, it's seeing something interesting. They're very careful to say, hey, we can't draw any conclusions about this. This is definitely not saying that if you let your kids play for things. three or more hours a day, they're going to have more cognitive skills. First of all, the arrow of causality is not clear here. It could be that if you already score well on these cognitive tasks, maybe you're drawn to video games. And so it could just be that kids who play video games are already performing really well cognitively and on memory tasks and everything. Yeah, and this just works that muscle, not muscle, but you know what I mean?

That's just like already a thing. do sure so we don't know what's going on there we you have to if you want to look at causality you have to because because that's these longitudinal studies that just look at like survey data and find correlations with with you know these these tests and brain scans and everything they can't really look at causality because it's such a large population and it was just data that's being collected and they're just looking for connections i want the next test to be i want the next study to be why are uh tower defense games inherently bad because they are, they're bad, and I'd like to know why.

I'd like to understand that better. Yeah. No offense to you know. That would be really good for science to answer. Yeah, I think so. You know what? I don't know what they're sitting around doing, but that's the next thing. Get on that, guys.

All right, well, that's fantastic. I love this stuff. Even when you're hosting, it's just as good. It's good. One thing, actually, I just thought of, another interesting thing is that, speaking of what the media usually says about video games, they did find that there was no correlation between lots of video game time and violence, aggression, or depression. Yeah, most studies up to this point have pointed the other direction that it might show.

They did find there was a small increase, but it wasn't statistically significant. So in science terms, that basically means, if it's not statistically significant, then it's not considered very much. so and I think that makes sense to me because any studies that would have shown a correlation and I'm not saying that there ever were studies that showed a correlation but any studies that would have shown any kind of a correlation with say depression or any mental health stuff is probably was probably very self-selective

as video games become and are now very ubiquitous among kids everybody plays video games or adults for that matter sure or definitely as they become more ubiquitous and everybody's doing it, you're going to see better data. I agree. It's not just going to be a certain self-selecting group of kids who are playing video games.

Now that being said, that will not stop some people from saying we found out that the shooter had played Doom once. That's stuff still going to happen. It still happens, right? Yeah, and it's as stupid now as it was then, because everybody's played Doom. guess what I haven't killed anybody no one not a soul

well except that hooker in Vegas that one year but other than that oh I shouldn't have said that out loud that had nothing to do with you were playing Doom with that yeah I was playing Doom way it wasn't even they weren't even a they weren't even working that night

we were just playing we were playing a land game and you know one thing led to another and that's all I that's all I can tell you just kidding nobody write that down or call me it's all made up it made the whole thing up all right let's move on nicely done though let's get out of

here. Before we do, a couple of things. Play retro show is tonight. Play retro happens at 330 Mountain Time where we do it live. Me and Brian Dunaway. We'll be covering the Resident Evil series today as part of our Halloween lineup for the month of retro gaming. We did Splatterhouse last week and alone in the dark the week before that. So we get to the big boy now. We're going with Resident Evil, at least uptell code Veronica. We're not going past that. It's all the, you know, control third person stuff that we're hitting from the PlayStation 1 up through Dreamcast era.

So if you want to listen to that, we'll be doing it live at 330 Mountain Time right here at frogpans.tv or if you like the podcast version better, that's no problem either. That'll go up right after and is available wherever you get your shows. Speaking of which, Bobby has a science show that he should tell people about right now. Bobby, tell me more.

Well, it's called All Around Science. And let me tell you, if you're listening to this, sometimes it's hard to remember to go and I know it's happening to a lot of you. You're listening to the show on Tuesdays. You hear me talk about the show and you think, I'm going to go and subscribe to that show and then you forget. Stop what you're doing. Go right now. Open up your podcast app. Look for all around science and just subscribe. Maybe you don't have time to listen this week, but it'll be there. Comforting thought that your science episodes will just be delivered to you magically through the magic of the internet.

automatically every week but yeah all around science every week we just talk about science stuff fun stuff that that we want to talk about in science this past week we talked about leaded gasoline oh right

yeah yeah if you live in where my wife's my wife's hometown you're just now getting unleaded so you know all about the leaded is that true no it's not true at all I just like to make fun I always say I think that they may have been breaking some federal law

yeah no in the uh the two jokes around here are they just got unleaded gasoline and they're all seeing a temple of doom this weekend because it finally made it to theaters there which is just a way of saying they're behind the times that's all that's funny but uh the the leaded gasoline story is really interesting but we talk about why was why did they take lead out of gasoline why was it in there in the first place um and the the whole story is full of like corporate intrigue, stories of greed and, and a one man who was trying to reveal the truth about leaded gasoline. It's a cool story. Yeah.

So check it out. All around science, wherever you get your podcast. This just in, everybody. This just in if I can find it. We just got a text. I have a question for Bobby, says an anonymous sender. Would he mind still taking the occasional Shadow Run 5E questions? That's a weird question to get on this show.

Yeah, are you keeping up with the shadow run? I know you're, you know, for a while there. You were, you were, well, well, it's in sixth edition right now. I know that. And I, I, I have not been following the sixth edition. And I, I, I'm, I'm happy to listen to questions. I just might not have an answer for you. Yeah.

If you don't have, if you've got questions, ask them. Doesn't mean you're going to get to get an answer. For those who don't know, my, my, my four way, four a into content creation years ago was, was, uh, was I made a bunch of, content in the Shadow Run tabletop role-playing game for Fifth Edition Shatter-run, I made a bunch of videos teaching people how the rules worked. Yeah, which is good.

You should go check it out. We got another one that someone just says, hey, burn him. Burn him. So I guess there's that. Hey, man, what's up? That is it for today's show. Big thanks to everybody for listening. And huge thanks to Bobby for hanging out with me.

I really appreciate it, man. Thanks again. Yeah, of course. I love it. It was awesome. We will see what tomorrow brings. Hopefully, Brian is feeling better. If not, you might get Bobby twice. Who knows?

But if not, we'll have Brian back. And, you know, look, bug him. Send him your online love and your whatnot. I don't mean Bobby. I mean, I mean, Brian. And you tell him you hope he feels better, all right? Because that'll help, I'm sure. There's science behind that.

You know, science, social media posts will make your flu go away. That's my understanding. And I stand by that science. I have no papers to show in support of it, though. In the meantime, though, please support us at our Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS. Super easy to find and go and check out. There's lots of reasons to be there.

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I think that's what we're doing today. I know. That is really out of character for you. It's out of character. It's out of pocket. It's all that I'm out of everything. So it's because I didn't play in today for music at all. I didn't even think about it.

So but I like Africa. So I'm going to do that. Maybe it'll be that KK Slider one that everyone hates. Good news is you can skip it. So anyway, that'll all happen. Anyway, we'll be back tomorrow with more TMS. We'll see you then. I'm going to be able to be.

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