The Morning Stream - TMS 2369: Always Assume Spider

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

I don't like Fish peeeeee teaaaaaaa. You Can Stand Under My Novella. Teddy Bears, Nipples, and Gold Bikinis. You Require More Ingots! A Clump of Teens and a Wad of Kids. Dunaway Leaves a Floater. Take a Bite of the Greasy Denver. Jabba starts yankin the chain. What's Ask Jeeves doing these days. You know he had answers. YOU get Covid, Brian gets hair. Recommentals with Scott, Bobby and literally nobody else and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Take a bite of the greasy Denver. Java starts yanking the chain. What's ass Jeeves doing these days? You know he had answers. You get COVID. Brian gets hair. Recommentals with Scott, Bobby, and literally no one else on this episode of the Morning Stream.

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october 26 2022 i'm scott johnson with further guest host bobby frankenberger hello bobby i'm here yep for longer for longer hopefully Hopefully this is the last time Because we don't want Brian to be any sicker than he is Exactly We don't know how he'll feel tomorrow But hopefully better than you did yesterday He's better today than yesterday

Just not, you know, still pretty under the weather I think he's got some nasty flu And again, I'd like to reiterate You greasy, dirty tadpulligans in Denver You Denver tadpool With your nasty fingers and your breath Or whatever it is you brought to the party the other day you spread it to Brian so so yesterday was a new hope yeah today is uh what is it Empire Strikes

back yeah Bobby strikes back yeah and then what's tomorrow if uh people the return of the Jedi he'd be returning yeah yeah yeah right yes isn't it ironic this is a thing I was just thinking about so I'm glad you brought this up isn't it ironic that the third uh Star Star Wars original trilogy film, six in the in the canon, Return of the Jedi, is the most kid-friendly overall, I would argue, tons of puppets, puppetry, you know? Not that puppets are for kids, but you know what I'm saying. It's like just, it's just a bunch of teddy bears and puppets that movie. Isn't that the one with a sexy bikini lea? Well, see, now you're on, you're right on the track I'm getting to here. You got sexy bikini lea. You also have

slave twilight girl who job of the huts have she's out there dancing he's got her on a chain and at one point he starts yanking the chain and pulling her up close and then dropping her down to the not sarlac pit the um the rancor pit thing yeah yeah yeah and uh that scene famously uh she's she's not dressed very much so she might be painted blue but you know you get to see things and i just always thought it was funny that this third movie was so like kid focused yet hey you want to see some nipples cool i got the scene for you right here oh you want to see lay in a metal bikini running around and you know half a butt cheek hanging out all the time there you go there's that and then oh you want to go back to teddy bears new how to please everybody yeah

yeah except for women probably yeah chat rooms like that's not irony i know yeah i subscribe to the irony definition that uh that bitter pill lady did what's her name uh the the morris set the more a set of irony irony yeah the more a set of rules Anyway, so, yeah, Brian, we continually wish you a quick recovery and hope you're feeling better soon. The nice thing is he set me up today for songs and stuff, so I will not be an idiot with songs today. All right. Everything will be. Aw.

I know. Well, we like Idiot Scott. I know. I know. Fumbly Idiot Scott is a, it's a real attraction around here. But today, you're not getting it. At least not in that way. You might get it in some other way. We always get it in some way, right?

I do want to say this, though. sometimes when you're in bed and you think there's a, you know, you might be laying there thinking you've got a spider because your leg itches or you're like, oh, what's that? And you kind of brush something off to see what it is. And then usually it's nothing, just like a random sensation. I'm going to go ahead and tell everybody that based on my experience last night, that the way you want to view that sort of thing is always assume spider. Don't just assume, oh, just random sensation. Like, do assume spider. because here's what happened at about 10.30 last night, starting to doze off a little.

I was playing Red Dead Red Dead Redemption on my steam deck in bed like you do, right? Like a proper man. Yeah, yeah. Yes, that's what proper man. That's right. So I'm doing that. And as I'm finishing up this mission, I was doing for Dutch, Dutch, I was doing a thing. And then I feel this sort of tickle on my thigh.

And I'm like, what the frick is that? It feels spidery. And I reached down there and just kind of slap my life. leg and there was nothing there. It's like, oh, okay, well, it's just me dreaming a thing and laid back down. Phantom leg feelings. Yeah, phantom feelings is what I was having. And as I started to drift off to sleep, I felt it a couple more times, but I already knew this was a phantom feeling. It wasn't anything big deal. So I go to sleep. I wake up this morning, 6.30. Get up. And you no longer have human limbs. They're all spider legs. Oh, I wish

this was the case because then, well, that's why I'm wearing this turtleneck today. It's to hide my spidery features that it hasn't spread to my head yet. Anyway, I get out of bed and lo and behold, I get into the bathroom there and I look down on my leg and my left leg. Get in the bathroom and spinnerets instead of a butthole. Oh man, you really want, you really want me to go full spider man here or man spider, I guess. or no, what's the guy? Brian was telling me about a character in the Spider-Verse called, oh, he's Spiders Man.

That guy's great, because he's... Oh, yeah, made up of a bunch of spiders. Yeah, he's just a ton of spiders all crawled up and made a man form. And then wears the suit still, still wears the Spider-Man suit, but it's all spiders in there. It's pretty great. I'd never heard of it until he told me. Anyway, so I get this spider, or I looked down on my leg,

and there's a dead, flat, bloody spider, black spider on my leg. Oh. That tells me that A, it was real. B, I rolled around and thought, ah, there's nothing there. And at some point, I turned over and mushed it. And it died there on my leg. Had I known this, I don't know if I had able to sleep. Like, I slept.

And yet here this is laying there, this black ass spider on my, on my leg. I don't feel like you rolling over in the bed would have smashed it, though. I feel like that initial slap had to have smashed it. It's possible. I didn't have any. residue on the hand, you know? I had looked at that and went, oh, well, shouldn't that be the case?

And it did look kind of, I don't know, not smashed like it got hit with blunt force, but more like mushed. Because I sleep on that side of my bed. Like if I roll over and I go to sleep, I'm on my, let's see, what is this? My left side. What is this?

It's my left side. I lay on my left side. And I think if it was like struggling to live at all, I probably ended it there. probably killed it then I don't know but anyway I hated it and uh and it's Halloween so I guess I got what I deserve it's fine uh it was a Halloween miracle it is Halloween miracle truly what also is a miracle that you guys have picked up quickly on this whole text idea and uh look at this we got a text from uh an anonymous listener who said this is about the metal we talked about yesterday titanium

tubes and all that stuff with uh bill this is a weird thing to say but he says titanium is as great as you think. We do need more ingots, though, signed anonymous. What do you think of that? More ingots of titanium? Yeah. Or I guess of anything. In general. I think he means just ingots as a general rule. We need more ingots. Be they copper, iron. Who cares? And also, what a tease of a text, right? Titanium isn't as great as you think. And then just walk away. Like, yeah, this is the, this is the, this is the, this is the baity headline without the story. Yeah. Exactly. Titanium isn't as great as you think yeah click here to learn more and then i learned nothing so why would you why okay i need a follow up from this dude or lady i don't know they're anonymous i have no idea who they are

what's wrong with titanium i was always when i grew up titanium was the coolest metal there was nothing cooler so if you talked about metals you went oh what's your bike made out of oh i think it's like hollow steel oh that's lame what's his bike titanium you know we'd all lose our minds because it was light and it was like super strong and expensive and it had all these like i don't know titanium is like a cool it's a cool thing so i need to know more what's the problem what's the problem of titanium there man you can't just text me and tell me it sucks you gotta you gotta give me some details which i hope i got from from this guy so i tried googling titanium isn't as strong isn't as great as you think what'd you get and there seems to be some some some

Quora article that explains that titanium isn't as great as steel but it's really long and I don't want to read it right sometimes I wonder Google owns Quora right but they own them still they don't really do much with them but they own them I think I don't know they come up too much in the results I don't trust it I'm not saying that they're they're favoring their own stuff I'm saying bring back ask Jeeves yeah what's what happened to ask Jeeves he had all kinds of answers to my questions that guy well anyway there's a there's a fun little note there We also got one from Rishi B in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We know him.

Yeah, he was, wasn't he in your season of competition? No, he was, I think he was the first season. First season. I can never remember which, where he was. Anyway, he wanted to talk about Blockbuster and I was willing to let him. So here's what he says. Namaste, this is in reaction to the hot off the presses talk you had about Blockbuster with Bobby Franks.

A little color I'd add to the misfortunes versus Netflix is that it's really hard. especially around 2008 for retail companies to think outside the box of their primary assets. In this case, having the foresight to know that the store on every corner is a con versus direct streaming service. I'm not sure what that means. Oh, a con meaning like a pro, a con versus pro. I get it. Yeah. I work for a major RX retailer and a lot of their future strategizing involves using new digital tools.

But to drive people to the stores, they still, but they're still not all in on digital. Thank you, come again. Rishi B. from Ann Arbor. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. And it's also like, it probably at the time to Blockbuster, other people have piped in too and said part of this problem was Paramount who did something with Blockbuster and gutted them to pay debt or something. So there's a whole other aspect of this that I didn't know about. And I won't get into it because I don't quite understand it. But just from a competitive standpoint, I think our point yesterday stands, which is, is you, if you have the forethought about what the future might hold, then you have it or you don't. Like, in the case of Netflix, yes, they didn't have a bunch of physical locations they had to worry about and a fleet of employees and all the other stuff that comes with that. What they had was a weird mail service for DVDs.

But I would argue that's still a massive pivot to streaming. Like, you really are just, you're really just one blockbuster who mails their movies out in mass. Yeah, yeah, Netflix, yeah, exactly, the mailing of the DVDs, that's not like, I wouldn't call that a natural, like, streaming is not exactly a natural conclusion to sending people DVDs in the mail, yeah. No, no, I mean, I would say Red Box is more like connected to what Netflix was doing. Yeah, they still have a streaming, they tried streaming something, Red Box did, hold on. Did you ever consider it? No, because I was like, well, I'm getting. what I need from other places. Here we go. Rent, stream and buy. They're still doing it.

Let's look at, let's look at their offering. I'm going there now. Yeah, Red Box still has boxes at the, in front of like, Walgreens all over the place. Yeah, I think they're doing okay from the physical standpoint. I think they still exist, but they've got, so okay, here we go. They have a ton of on demand. They call it on demand. So for a buck 99, I can watch Nope. um for let's see you know that idris elba beast movie where he fights a tiger or whatever the crap's going on there yeah uh that is currently i can rent at a kiosk for a buck oh i see i can rent it at the kiosk for a buck 99 which i can do through the app or i can buy it on demand for 20 bucks so that's new releases if i go to old stuff uh let's say i don't know geez uh that's all new stuff here okay

the original Halloween. Yeah. I can, okay, watch with ads for free, rent on demand for $1.99 or buy on demand for $10. Is this not bad?

And they must be doing okay. I'll bet they're doing okay, you know? I missed the Red Box days in a way because there was a fun like meta game that we would play. And that was, we would want to watch a movie

because the whole idea of Red Box for very, very young people. like Claire Gack who don't know Yeah, very young people Yeah It was a literal box Big box

About as tall as a person It was a machine It was a vending machine Basically in front of a store And you would go in there And you'd put what movie you wanted And the DVD would be in the machine And it would spit it out to you

You'd take it home You'd watch it And then you'd return it back to the machine You'd stick it back in Yeah Well, because the DVDs Had to be in the machine sometimes you'd want a movie and it wouldn't be

at a particular machine but they allowed you in the app to say I want to watch this movie and they'd tell you where it was. Yeah, which kiosk. So that was always a fun game driving all around town like oh there's one over here and

driving across town to find the movie that you wanted. I watched a clump of teenagers try to break into a red box once that was fun to watch. I mean, I didn't. Did they succeed? I was in the car and I was at an intersection, and I watched them just banging this thing and tipping it, you know, like you do, if you drink stuck in a vending machine, they were doing like that, just like rocking it and then punching it and doing all this.

So when you see that happening, what do you do? Do you just... Well, if I was there, I would have said... Let the kids have it, or do you call the police? Oh, I would have called the cops. In fact, was going to. I was in the car alone. It was late at night. I was at an intersection, waiting for a light to turn green. So I wasn't, like, out walking around or whatever, but I was. I was ready to grab my cell phone and call, but then I saw somebody who worked there, did work, the place that they were at was, I think it was closed. I think it was dark inside, and that's why they were trying to do this. But somebody was there and came running out, and they scattered, grabbed their skateboards and scattered.

They all had skateboards. Seems like a bad getaway car, but whatever. Somebody who ran out, were they shaking their fist in the air? They kind of, yeah. They were like yelling and cussing out. And I'm like, well, you kids get out of here. I said, my work here is done. and I kept driving.

But this is, this is, I've said this before on the show. I once in a while have a weird urge. And I've never, I always get heat for this, but I'm going to tell you anyway. I get a weird urge when I see just kids loitering somewhere like I used to when I was 15, okay? Because that's what you do. It's a part of growing up. You just, you're hanging out, right? When I see a wada kids out and doing that somewhere in a parking lot, I'm so tempted.

to go scare the living crap out of them. I just want to get out of the car, look tall, talk loud, freak them out. I don't know why. I don't know what this is in me, but it's always in me. And I see it. I just like, oh, I'm going to go scare that kid. There's something about a group of teenagers, and it's especially teenage boys. Yeah.

There's something about a group of teenage boys that are hanging out that you just know that those kids, they think that they are the stuff. Oh, yeah. They've got it all figured out and nothing can mess with them. They've got it. It's easy street from here on out. They know everything that they need to know. And you are once that person and you have the wisdom now to know that you actually didn't know anything and you still actually don't know anything. Yeah.

It's like you just want to knock them. I understand that feeling. You want to just knock them off their high horse and be like, look, kids. Yeah. Knock it off. You think I'm in some old guy walking over here. So that's why I want to. scare him because they're not going to take me seriously any other way, right? Right. Because to them,

I'm some old guy. And by the way, anybody 20 and older to them is an old guy. That's just how they see it. So I just want to put a little, you know, put a little scare the Jesus in him or whatever the word is I'm trying to find. I just want to have them go, ah, oh no, that guy. And then they'll talk about it for years. Remember that time that guy got out of his car at midnight and freaking ran us off? Remember that? You know what I mean? One of my favorite things to do when I see a group of teenagers, regardless of whether they have skateboards or not, as I love to roll down the window and yell, skater die, man. Yeah, skater die, dude. Woo! Well, see, you're a kinder soul than I am. For whatever reason, that's just always a thing with me. I want to do it. My sister's

like this, Wendy, my sister, the psychologist, she shares this desire sometimes. We've talked about it. So it must be a Johnson gene. I don't know what's going on. Our ancient, our ancient freaking Viking blood coming out, you know, where we just want to go raid something. We take over your town and destroy your village and steal your gold or something. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'd love to put the fear of God into some teenagers. Yeah.

Well, that's the phrase I'm looking for. Let's go terrorize the town. Let's do it. That's the phrase I was looking for. Fear of God, not the fear. Would I say, the ghost of Jesus? Whatever I said? That's not what I meant.

Yeah. The ghost of Jesus. Catholics believe in that. It compels you. All right. Let's get in here and have some fun with Brian Dunaway. So Dunaway is going to call today. We're still having a game, but you guys aren't calling in, all right?

The way this is going to work is a little bit different. I'll explain in a second as soon as Dunaway arrives. But it's going to be just a little bit different today. You'll survive the change until Brian gets back. The changes. The change. Like, you know, the, what's the song? I can't think of the song.

I can't think of the song. Something about change. Change. There it is. something something yeah yep your your knowledge of the lyrics are far and wide uh done away's not answering now that makes me worry let's see is he in the chat i saw him earlier he was in the chat earlier yeah i don't know if he's just picking his butt if he's uh didn't notice uh sometimes before before my tuesday segment i think oh bill's on i have time for a poop yep this happened before

with Dunaway where he was like oh I thought you had another 10 minutes with all you guys were talking and then he'll come back and feel bad so maybe he's in the he might be in the pooper I don't know yeah we'll find out shortly even if he doesn't answer nature calls yes nature calls we probably even if let's say he's not around we could probably still make this work oh I could do this with just you because the point of what I've got set up is to talk about the interesting thing and to to suss out the and because you yeah we could still do it we could still do it we could still do it. All right. Well, he's ringing. Or we could just call anybody. That's true. Oh, he sent me a message. Hold on. We are doing a kind of... Log won't flush. Can do... Log won't flush. Stop. Please.

See message below. Stop. That's what it'll do. I never understood that stop stuff. Why have people to use that? What's that about? Do you know? That was the... That was the telegraph. thing. Oh, oh, right. Yeah, back in the day, they would say, the natives have taken over

the city, stop. Did they, but that's what I'm wondering, did they just not have, and this could be totally true, this isn't me being funny, did they just not have punctuations that they could send over Telegraph? Well, maybe what it was was like, I don't actually know that.

I wonder why they had to, and they couldn't just say period or. Yeah, well, maybe stop is shorter than period, and maybe there's no, it was all morse code i think right um so so maybe there's just no morse code for a for any punctuation yeah that might be it all right well i think he's not here so here's what we'll do we'll do this just with us how about that and and the listener in a weird way but i'll explain in a second here we go do do do do do do all right we're going to play a not uh babel royale today uh it'll be a little

bit different it's bobby's game which sounds like a stephen king book doesn't it bobby's game Bobby's game. Yep. Sequel to Gerald's game. Ooh, that's a, you don't want to be in that sequel. Of all the sequels to Stephen King books, I think that's one you want to steer clear from. Anyway, let's get to it. We're going to, and here's how we're going to do it.

I'm going to basically play this game for one of you, a little bit like we do on Mondays. But the way it's going to work today, instead of you calling in, you're going to text the same number, 801-47-1-0-0-462, and I'm going to take the fourth person who texts, all right? You don't have to say anything. Actually, you do. You have to say the word beep or boop or something, something short, all right, so I can pick it out of the list here. But I'm going to pick the fourth one, not the first, not the fifth, not even two, three.

It's going to be the fourth. So you may as well send it now. Don't try to be real strategic about it or anything. Oh, we already have it. Here we go. You ready? Ready. This comes, oh.

You might also want to include your name. Your name, yeah. I'll just ask them their name since they're the winner here. So I said, hi, what's your name? This is someone calling from the sixth. The only information is I get their area code. So I've got 630 is all I have. But you can reply.

You replied to one of my texts, so I know you can reply. Oh, it's Katie Talmo on the other end. Sweet. 630, that must be not Vegas. Wait, Katie, you're in Vegas still, right? I think. I think she's still in Vegas. Anyway, Katie Talmo will be today's potential winner of the following prizes.

You're going to win Steam editions of Super Hot and Dear Esther, Landmark Edition. Ooh. Dear Esther, Dear Esther, is fantastic. I've got the quest, the meta quest too. I've been thinking about trying out super hot. Super hot's awesome, especially in there. It's a great VR experience. Yeah.

I think it's good in 2D as well, but it's a very much. more immersive sort of thing to play in there. It actually kind of scared me. But I get scared. VR versions of things scare me. So, you know, take that for whatever it's worth. But, yeah, these are, these are very cool games. And I'm pretty sure super hot for Steam also works in VR. So I think you're safe with this one if you end up getting it Katie and you don't have a headset. Anyway, so there's that. Hey, let's get straight to it here. Bobby, you want to explain your game and how we can try to win some prizes for Katie? Yep, it's going to be called, the game's going to be called Science or Fiction. Oh, hold on, ready?

Science or fiction. Oh, man, I don't even know. We should have had a thing for this. Do I have a thing? Here. There, that's your thing. That's all you got. All right.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever listened to the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast? Never in my life. It sounds like something I'd like, though. Okay, good, because in the short notice that I had, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I stole these questions from them, from their podcast. If I had had more time to prepare, I would not have. But I want to give full credit to the skeptics guide to the universe podcast so that nobody thinks that I'm trying to pull on over on them and cheat here.

No worries. But these are questions. So the game is where I'm going to present to you a statement. And it may be true. It may be a statement as stated, it may be true or false. It might be science or fiction. And then you have to decide which one it is. Ah, okay, science or fiction.

I like this. Yeah. So you can just tell me true or false, because some of these are like, are statements of popular myths that may or may not be true. So just as each thing, as it's stated, you tell me if it's true or if it's false. Okay. Okay, sounds good. Does that show worth listening to, by the way? Is that a thing I should put in my rotation?

Do you like it? I love it. It's a little long. but I love it. It's a lot of science news. They have many, many hosts, but they've been doing it for a really, really long time, and they handle it really, really well. Chatroom says they had to stop listening because of someone novella's brother annoys them or something?

I don't know what that is. You know, they could be, there are three brothers of the host. There are three brothers, and they are all the last name novella, and one of them I could see might be annoying. Interesting. All brothers doing a podcast. That's actually kind of cool. everyone thinks I should do it with my Korean brother

but I don't think he'll do it he gets too nervous he's camera shy when it comes to this stuff anyway are you ready for number one I'm ready for number one give it to me all right number one is the statement is cat tails you know the the plant cat tails

oh yeah sure cat tails are almost entirely edible and in fact produce more edible starch per acre than any other green plant starch per acre yeah I mean I could see that true or is that false

when you when you break one open they have like magical amounts of stuff inside if it's what I'm thinking of but those are all dried out and kind of like cotton who would eat that how would you process that I've never heard of anybody eating that so I'm going to say part of this question is

it's edible is the claim, right? Yes, it's edible starch. In fact, produces more edible starch per acre than any other green plant. I'll just guess. I don't actually know this. I'm going to go against my gut and say that,

yes, this is true. It's science. In fact, it is true. It is true. Oh, my gosh. Is it really? Yes, it is true. So cat tails produce a lot of starch.

You mentioned that they're, like, dry, The cat tail part that makes it seem like a cattel, that brown thing at the top, it's really, really dry. So clearly you've held one and messed with it before. They're amazing. If you start breaking those up, certainly, I think maybe it's in the fall or whenever it's matured. But you open up that top bit and you'd swear it's like a clown car. There's tons of like fiber and stuff that comes out of it. Like how did they get it that much into that tiny compact space?

It's crazy to me. Well, so you're right that that's not edible because it's dried cattail. But before it dries out and becomes green, that top actually is, or it becomes brown. That top is actually green and can be cooked and eaten. Is it good? Have you had this? Apparently, it is good. Some cultures cook it and eat it as part of everyday life.

It was an important frontier crop or frontier plant in early colonies or, you know, in the colonies early on in the in the colonization of of um the united states they came over here and said hey uh what do you want to eat and they said well we got these cat tails let's do that that's basically yeah yeah and the stock is also edible the roots so the whole plant there's tons of stuff and they do say that if you monocropped it which means like like you you're not going to go and pick a bunch next to rivers and get get enough like per acre sure but if you monocropped it and actually planted it and produced it, it would be more starch than potatoes and yams.

Oh, my Lord. Well, I hate yams, so I'm looking for a replacement for yams. That sounds good. I don't like yams. So let me ask you this question. Does it require a wetland-type environment, or can it be cultivated here in the Rocky Mountains? Like, can you make it?

That I don't know. I would assume that it needs some kind of very wet, wet land, because it's always next to river. and whatnot, right? Yeah, stick to the rivers. As a warning, anybody who's, like, foraging, if the water source is known to be polluted, you should never eat a cat tail

because that part of the big top, even if it's green, it's used to filter the water that the plant uses, so it will concentrate any toxins that are in the water. But as long as the water source is clean. But what if it's, like, fish pee and stuff? You don't want fish pee in your cat tail, right? I'm sure you get fish pee in.

your diet all the time. I'm probably drinking some fish pee in this tea right now, for all I know. That's what my coffee tastes like is fish pee. Or cat pee, because there's some mushroom in this, and a cat could have peed on that. I don't know. Exactly, exactly. All right, you ready for another one? Give me another one.

I'm so far, I'm one for one here. Yeah, you got that one right. You're right. By the way, so the rules is, if I, the rules is, I can't even talk. The rules are, as the rules is, if I win, if I get all these correct or enough of them correct, more correct than not, Katie walks up. away a winner. If I get more wrong than not, she loses and we pass these forward to whoever's next. Yep. And Scott reserves the right to change the rules in the middle of the game like

he often does. Yeah, which I don't mind doing it all. It's not a problem. All right, here's one about nipple piercing. Oh, good. Here's the statement. You ready? Yeah. Nipple piercing was popular among Victorian upper class women as it was believed to suppress sexual desire and prevent pregnancy if the former function failed. And create infection. Um, hmm. That sounds crazy, but it wouldn't surprise me here.

Nipple piercing, popular among Victorian upper class women as it was believed to suppress sexual desire and prevent pregnancy if the former function failed. I'm going to say, oh, geez. I'm going to say false. I just wanted to be false.

I wanted to be false so bad that it's driving my decision, but I'm going to say false. Well, Scott, you're two for two. Oh my gosh. But why? No morning, stop. I don't know why that played, sorry. Go ahead. Why would we just make something up like that?

There actually is something. So, nipple piercing actually was very popular in Victorian women, but not because of what I said. It was because they liked it. Oh. It was actually thought that upper class Victorian women thought it made them more attractive and that it felt good.

Yeah. Yeah. And so not too dissimilar from why people pierce their nipples today. I'm not shaming anyone for this, but I'm telling you right now, I will never and have never and could never pierce a nipple. And here's why.

I understand it's maybe on the back end you got some value there. But the initial, is someone is ramming a rod through your freaking nipple? F that noise. I'm not doing that ever. Oh my gosh, it sounds horrid. I can't even imagine it. The only thing that sounds worse is like either genital piercing or like, uh, actually any piercing.

I don't want to do ears. Y'all with your holes in you. What are you doing there? What's that about? Apparently it was also a display of wealth and power for an interest. reason because having your nipples and genitals pierced you have to have really good hygiene in order to make it so that that doesn't get infected and gross so you won't do it you wouldn't do it unless you could bathe every day and you were you were higher up if you could do that I get it

yeah exactly exactly okay I thought maybe it was like you could put really fancy gold on your nipple rings or something and they would say oh look at the rich guy over there with the nipple rings and the gold and the whatnot, you know? Yeah, look at the nipple rings on that, fella. All right, I'm feeling good. Two for two. Let's do this. What's third?

All right, I got another one. This one is actually not from the skeptic guide to the universe. I got this one on my own, but here's the statement. Ready? Glass is not a solid, but in fact is a high viscosity liquid. Is that true or false? Well, that's true when it's at a certain temperature. Sure.

So glass just in your window, as you think about it, or anywhere, just glass in its solid form, quote unquote, solid form. The statement is, it is not actually a solid, but in fact is a high viscosity liquid. And viscosity meaning, I mean, this is ultimate viscosity because it's literally like the hardest it's ever going to get. Right. Viscosity, like, meaning that it flows very slowly. So molasses, for example, would be higher viscosity than water because it, it, Whereas they're both liquids, molasses flowed more slowly. Also, it depends on the kind.

Like modern glass, there's tempered glass, there's all these different kinds. It's not like the old days where they had that wibbly wobbly stuff in the saloon, where if you look through it, everything was all distorted because that's the best we could do back then. Oh, geez. I feel like I'm getting tricked on this one. I'm going to say false. I don't think it is. You're going to say false?

Yeah. The chat room mostly are all saying true. Are you sure that you want to say false? Yeah, because I don't, they're trying to steer me in the wrong direction anyway. I never trust what they're saying. All right. Well, the answer is false. Oh. It's false.

Oh, that means I'm right. You are correct. Yeah, dude. Woo! It's actually a common myth that it's a high viscosity liquid, but it's not. And the myth comes from the fact that you got window panes in old buildings like stained glass windows and really old churches. They'll have thicker glass towards the bottom of the paint. and so the idea was people thought well they would if you made the glass paint

evenly thick then then it must be sagging why is it why would they all be thicker at the bottom unless it was very slowly sagging towards the bottom right and that's why I almost went that direction it just right it just doesn't match though with what I can feel and see especially today so I kind of thought it was a trick where you're going to say modern glass we do this now and now it makes it a solid where the old stuff maybe it was or whatever you trusted your feelings like a good Jedi

trust your feelings yeah I did I trusted my feelings and I um used the force yeah um so the the truth is so the question might be why then are all these glass panes thick at the bottom I bet I know why don't we ever see it the other

way around and it was because it was hard to make glass evenly thick back in the day so sometimes it would be thicker on one end than the other because it just was really hard to do. And when it was thicker at the bottom of the pain, the craftsman, the windowman would just put, they would put the thicker part at the bottom because why would you put it at the top? It's more stable for it to be at the bottom. Yeah, I agree. But you wouldn't put it up top. It'd be heavy, top heavy. This makes perfect sense to me. See, this is all, this is how life is. We all think we know a thing. We don't know things. Go with your gut. Or don't, actually. The gut's the problem too sometimes. Just today my gut was right. Yes. Sometimes your gut is right. Sometimes

you need a little gas X. That's right. Three for three everybody. What am I? Four for four? What are we? That's three for three for three. All right. Here we go. All right. I'm going to have to ratchet up the difficulty. All right. I'm fine with that. I'm okay. Next level. Here we go. Here's the statement. The heating up of a spacecraft as it reenters and descends through the atmosphere. So you know that happens, right? A spacecraft comes in. Yeah. Gets all hot underneath the little flames underneath the thing and all that, yeah. Yeah, it starts to glow and everything. Yeah. So the heating up of the spacecraft

as it re-enters and descends through the atmosphere is not mostly caused by friction, which is only responsible for a small amount of the heat, less than 5%. 5% is caused by friction. The rest is what? Under 5% is caused by friction. You've heard, I'm sure, that friction friction with the air

is what causes all that that heat but the statement I'm making you have to determine whether it's true or false is that it's not friction that friction only causes a minuscule amount of the heat

I'm going to say that that's so there's got to be other atmospheric stuff in place I'm going to say that that's true that it's a small percentage and it's something else causing it all right well you're correct look at me look at the brain on brad

all right so so it's true it's not caused by friction it's commonly thought that it's caused by friction that's what you hear all the time but what's actually happened and i know at least one other person said in the chat room the correct answer here that the actual the heat is being caused by compressed air in front of the spacecraft it's moving so fast that the air does not have time to get out of the way. No matter how aerodynamic you are, it's just too fast.

It can't get out of the way. Well, and the spacecraft very deliberately is not entering in the most aerodynamic way that it can because it's trying to slow down. Got it, got it. But even if it were entering in a more aerodynamic way, it would, heat would probably still happen

because it's moving so fast that it compresses air the air doesn't have the time to get out of the way and compressed air when it compresses it heats up everybody knows that yeah I'm just kidding

you know PV equals NRT you learned it in in chemistry sure and uh but anyway it's just the the air gets so hot that it radiates heat and then causes the spacecraft

so there's so it would be easily confused because in a lot of cases friction is a similar problem or a similar um effect But in this case, it's not. I mean, why couldn't you call it friction with air that won't move fast enough? Why isn't it still friction?

You know what I mean? Right. And probably, like you said, aerodynamics, at least for when the spacecraft is taking off, they want it to be as aerodynamic as possible so that less fuel is needed to get it up. So they probably make it as friction less as they can. Yeah, I'm sure they do, right? And those tiles they use are, I don't know if those are just heat resistant or what the deal is, but they do that.

They have, they do, you know, aerodynamics, matter in some sense. They are heat resistant. I went to space camp when I was a kid and they did a demonstration. I got to put my hand on one side of one of those tiles, which isn't that thick. Put my hand on one side and they blew a blow torch onto the other side of the tile. And it was glowing red hot with my hand right behind it. Oh, weird.

I couldn't even tell. You couldn't tell. I also did space camp, but ours was like a fake. Did yours do this? They put us in a thing and left us in there for four days. And we had to run it like a ship. Oh, my God. That doesn't sound like space camp. That sounds like survival camp. It was awesome. It was this really cool thing. And there was a long list to sign up. And I got lucky God in one year. And it was just at the school.

So it was in Utah. It sounds like a very... Oh, yeah. I was totally here. It was at my high school. It was at Brighton High School. I don't know if other schools did it. But we had this teacher who's super into aerospace and all that. And he had this, it was a science teacher. And he had this rooms especially set up with like a fake capsule type thing. and you had to go into it and inside were all these knobs and buttons and systems and we had to kind of if something went wrong we had to react and do whatever

and I only remember is this kid named Paul vomited in there that's all I remember that's my main memory this kid puked Paul we got time for one more yeah we got one more do it all right all right

this is the best one save the best for last again I got these from the skeptics guide to the universe so the here's the statement. Tobacco smoke enumas were popular mainstream Victorian treatments for multiple ailments from cholera to drowning. Drowning. How do you, wait, the guy's dead? Tobacco smoke enemas. I'm just giving you a statement. We're popular mainstream treatments in Victorian times in Victorian England for multiple

ailments from cholera to drowning. Okay, I'm going to say that this is true because A, those people were nuts back then and everything with snake oil and it sounds like something they would do. But also, I have heard of tobacco animas before. This is tobacco smoke animas. Right, right. But I'm just, I feel like there's... But you've heard of tobacco animas.

Sure. And somebody hooking themselves up to a little smoke pipe, you know, downstairs seems like sensible Victorian science to me. So I'm going to say yes, this happened. Well, you're correct. Of course this happened because, like you said, in Victorian England, they did crazy stuff. You know what I've done here?

I worked the board. I ran the board, you guys. You really did. You really did. Yep. Katie, you're a winner. Whoops, wrong one. Congratulations.

You're a winner. Sorry, go ahead. But you know what? It's not that hard to believe because nowadays people just stick everything up their butts, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, all the time. We still do this. People still do coffee animas.

People do all sorts of stuff. And there may be some benefits that aren't, you know, completely proven or whatever. I ain't never doing it. Never ever. It's eggs it only. exit only maybe it's not that much of a leap to think of uh back then in victorian england uh they we didn't really understand tobacco was medicinally used all the time it didn't really understand the dangers of tobacco yet right right um native americans used it for

a long time medicinally and um and uh animas in general were also a common treatment for things so you just put the two together and um there you go uh but how did they think that it worked tobacco smoke in particular with the drowning, that's weird, right? Yeah, that is weird. So they thought for drowning in particular that if you put the smoke in the butt, it would warm up the body, the nicotine would then stimulate the heart, and then water would somehow be displaced out of the body. Did they ever have a, did they ever chronicle a case that worked? Like, where they can say that happened? I doubt it.

Yeah. That's my thinking too. I doubt that ever worked. Or if it did, it was like a fluke where the guy was not all that drowned. It's not as drowned as he was reported to be. He's not as drowned as he thunked he was. Yeah, that seems hardcore. I had a friend named Chuck when I had a coworker named Chuck who claimed that he did hot sauce enemas.

And that's about all I want to say about that. But he claimed it. He said he'd get a whole, it'd be a mixture of water, but then like a ton of tabasco or a ton of chalula. He liked that the best. and uh and he would he would do that and he says it was great oh it's changed my life you guys like okay man no thanks not doing it the joke i know everybody's thinking of at home and i'm surprised you haven't made yet is blowing smoke up someone's ass no is this where it came from this is where it came from no that's literally where this where that phrase comes from

i love it the victorian practice of blowing tobacco smoke okay that actually makes sense because it's patently untrue that it would work normally. Exactly. And so therefore, you're blowing smoke up my ass means you're lying to me or you're just... Isn't that a feel-good story there? Because you're like, oh, the reason that this phrase means that you're putting somebody on or you're lying to them or you're trying to make them feel good about something is because eventually people realized that this was just a placebo, just didn't do anything, just made people feel like something was happening. Yeah, they felt better. The family felt better that they tried something.

Which is usually our... For their drowning. Well, we tried CPR. CPR probably wasn't even invented, right? No, no. I didn't know what to do with that, probably, I think. They didn't even know mouth to mouth. They were like, well, uh, what could we do?

How about a tube in the hooter? How about that? Let's get that up there. It's funny that it went there instead of trying to breathe into their lungs. Yeah. You know what? I'm glad I don't live in the Victorian era suddenly today. Yeah, you probably died of a lot of things.

shouldn't have died of if you lived in Victoria anymore. Yeah. I feel like even Mad Max people knew, know better about how to save people from drowning. Well, mainly there's not enough water there. So, that went up. Well, congratulations, Scott. You got 100% and congratulations

Katie Talmo. Yep, you win. Katie, I'll send you these codes via this text. This is the other nice thing about this text. I can just very quickly send these off. And you are our winner. Congratulations.

Just put those codes in Steam and they're yours. Congratulations once again. All right, we're going to take a break. when we come back some time with Tom Merritt and then recommendals after that before we go though we're going to play a song uh this is an indie in the middle that brian sent to me thankfully uh because i don't know how to do this i don't know who to pick or what to do you know what i mean i just know songs i like and i'll play those occasionally but you know when brian's brian's got stuff so here's what he sent me a cumulus new album by something brighter it's out

today october 21st i guess so it's been a few days uh anyway uh is the title might suggest the latest from the Pacific North West musician, also known as Alexandra, it's an interesting name, Alexandra. Lockhart is a panacea for our turbulent and otherwise challenging times.

Quote, if optimists exist in these quasi-apocalyptic days, writes, the vaulted Seattle Alt Weekly, the stranger in a recent profile, they are certainly an endangered species, but thanks to Cumulus, they have a brilliant new soundtrack for dancing in the rubble.

They say the song is something brighter from Cumulus. We're going to play it now. And when we come back, Tom Merritt will be joining us. So please enjoy. And we'll see you in a moment. When you met me, I was lost in the spinning wheel. Staring out the cracks that on the wall. I couldn't find the light to illuminate it all.

Spinning tight in my own mind. I still go there from time to time When you're next to me, it's like I'm sleeping in a sunbeam All the way you love me, it gets into my bloodstream. I thought growing up that life was supposed to hurt I thought I had to fight for every word Then you walked right in and painted looks so damn easy what I deserve

I didn't know what I deserve When you're next to me It's like I'm sleeping in a sunny Oh the way you love me It gets into my bloodstream Oh When you're next to me It's like I'm sleeping in a sunbeam

And all the way you love me It gets into my bloodstream I don't need that much anymore Let's just lay you on the floor Toshiba offers a system for storing up to four megabytes of data on the newer 3.5 inch diskette. This is accomplished using what's called perpendicular recording. Toshiba is the first manufacturer in the world to offer this new technique commercially.

What were the yellow pages? in the Constitution The Morning stream Yes, I'm not easy to get along with, am I? And we returned. That was once again, Cumulus and their new album, Something Brighter, is out today. So check it out. and thank you again

Brian for helping me set that up all right and also Scott Fletcher's wrong he's very easy to be around super easy to be around guy that line was not true about him at all especially this part right here where is it

I'm not easy to get along with am I that's bull crap it's total bull crap I agree you've met him he was in Vegas you know he's very easy to be around one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet yeah it's him and

Christine is it Christine Christine his wife yes Yeah. She's wonderful. She's probably listening now because we've got recommendals coming up. And as you know, she's very picky about that. She's waiting. Yeah. You may know her from...

Sit out of luck.com. There she is. All right. What now? Tom, that's who? That's what? Tom, I think feeling much, much, much better after also contracting COVID for the first time. Yeah.

I got that from his newsletter. That's how I heard it as well. Which I subscribed. Yeah. If you subscribe to Tom's newsletter, then you, know this particular status and we're going to find out how he's doing right now with the computer as with any tool the concept and direction must come from the man that man is tom merritt he joins us here on the show every wednesday to talk about the goings-on in the tech world but also

we want to check in on and making sure he's feeling better tom how's your post-covid lifestyle going uh well that's not post yet uh technically at least according to the two little lines on the plastic thing. But yeah, I've been, no, I'm feeling 98% normal. That's pretty good. That's not bad. In fact, the only symptom I'm having is that Brian Ibbett looks really different to me, suddenly. I know, right? That's what happens. You get COVID. Brian gets hair. Yeah. It's the weirdest side effect I've ever heard of. And he really gets hair where he's not messing around with how much hair he gets when he's here. But yeah, Brian's down with some sort of non-COVID horrible flu, which he said it's so much worse than the actual COVID was,

which tells me that these vaccines work. And I'm glad that Tom's vaccinated and doing well. Hey, no, that's a good point. I got my fourth booster, the bivalent one on September 27th. I first started showing symptoms last Wednesday, got the test, was positive. It was kind of, I would say it was sick on Thursday and Friday. Yeah.

For sure. I started to feel a little better on Saturday. And by Monday, I was kind of back to normal, which tells me that my personal constitution is amazing and it had nothing to do with the vaccines. No, you know what it is. It's all me. It's all those fish things you eat. You eat a lot of fish. I eat a lot of sardines.

Yeah, Tom's a sardine guy. And I think those-a-oranges, too. Those omega-3s plus your vitamin C intake, boy, howdy, get through COVID-Wing. Do you eat them out of a can with a key? they don't have the key anymore I'm a little disappointed that they don't use the key yeah it's just a pop top now that's what the cartoons have

told me that that's how they can they've led us astray yeah it's a real bad way I wish they I wish they still do they'd be so much fun and then I'd have a little collection of keys to show all the sardines well thanks to you it is now one more down I feel like I'm very quickly becoming

the only person in our circles I know I thought I thought I could I thought I like Justin Robert Young before me. Thought I could evade it, but no. Run, Scott. Run. Run. Run away. I haven't gotten it yet either. Oh, that's right. That's right, Bobby. Down there in South Carolina. Even one of my kids got it and I didn't get it. Go, Bobby. Go, Scott. Save yourselves. Get away while you still can. Well, I'm hopeful. And I don't want to hear about this new cube variant, whatever it is. I don't want to hear about it. Everybody, just keep it to yourselves. Tom Merritt. I thought it was a game cube.

It's a game cube. Yeah. The new game cube. Run. Run away from it. Hey, you're here because we do tech stuff, and we do it on Wednesday. What is happening? What's boiling out there? I can't wait to hear. Yeah. So one of the things that's been kicking around for a couple of days, and I think Sarah wants to address it on the show with you on today,

is this study that showed that children who reported playing a lot of video games at the ages of 9 and 10 had better memory, better motor skills, better attention, not. just on tests, but also with increased activity in brain regions associated with those kinds of things. It is a correlation, not a causation. It may be that when you have those better things, you're more likely to want to play video games, but it's an interesting correlation nonetheless. Yeah, we talked about this a bit on, was it yesterday, Bobby? I think we did. We talked a little bit about it. I'd love to hear what your take is. Yeah, what is your take?

Like the one takeaway I had was they didn't tell us what genres or games they played. Otherwise, it sounds like this really great study. There's like more than 1800 to 2,000 kids involved. Like it's a big sort of, you know, rich with data sort of result and all that. But they don't actually say, were these kids playing Call of Duty? Were they playing a simple match three puzzle game? Like, I don't know what they mean by games. These nine and ten-year-olds were all playing Call of Duty.

No, I'm sure a few of them were, honestly. That's a good question. The adolescent brain cognitive development study is an ongoing study with thousands of kids in the U.S. Where they do regular surveys and tests for multiple reasons. So the scientist who did this paper pulled from that data. And that data includes a question that says, how much time did you spend playing a video game today? So what defines a video game is left to the child? Which is not, I think you might be quick to call that a weakness in the study.

It's not, but it is something you should know about the data. This is self-reported, which means the margins for error get a little fuzzier, right? Because it's up to the child to define what a video game was, and it's up to the child to remember how much time they spent on it, which may or may not be particularly accurate. And I know when I asked my child, how long have you been playing video games now? they're always 100% perfect recording. The motivation of the question probably has a big effect

That's true. The question might not have been saying then put it down. Yeah. My, oh yeah, go ahead. But the reason I bring that up is

you might be tempted to want to throw that data out them, but it's not entirely unreliable. What you find out is when you spread it across 2,217 children, and this is why you need large sample sizes.

It tends to be close enough to be able to to treat it in very large amounts. And that's what they did in this study. They took out the children who said they played more than 21 hours a day. And the children who said they didn't play any a day. And they sort of left out that middle ground to sort of not try to rely on the accuracy of the data too much. Kids who said they played a lot probably played a lot.

And the kids who said they played none, well, they might have played a little, but they probably played close to zero. If you played some, you probably reported it. So they were looking at the extreme ends, which makes me think, okay, you're likely to have, you know, relatively accurate data when you're talking about a chunk that size. You're not trying to fine slice it between like who had nine and a half and who had ten and a half hours. Yeah. For me, it doesn't actually hurt the study to not know. I just think it would be fascinating either further study or new study to get into the categories. Yeah, because to be able to say like, oh, well, this many kids, they were just playing simple puzzle games on their first.

phone, but these kids were playing Fortnite at a very competitive level, what is, is there a difference there? Maybe not. But that's, that to me, would be interesting further study. As it stands, it's really interesting. Yeah, that's the way science is supposed to work, right? Right. Right. Is, is you go, like, is there anything to study? We have existing data. Yeah. It's, it's very, you know, it's, it's, it's very rough, right? It's a, it's a rough draft. But it's, it's, it's, there's enough response. We've got thousands of children. And we can block the data in large and. enough chunks that it's useful, right? It's not nearly worthless. And then you can say, all right,

if we see anything here, then that warrants additional study. That means like, all right, maybe we want to bring some children into the lab, have them actually play some games, measure their cognition and such there. And that's when you can start to tell like what kinds of games correlate with what kinds of skills on a more fine-tuned basis. But that's all further study. This is basically trying to say we see a lot of studies that show the negative effects of video games. We wanted to see if there was also positive effects. The other thing that they did not find is any correlation with mental health. There was no difference between the two groups on whether they had better or worse mental health. Yeah, which is interesting from the perspective of everybody wants to default to why, you know, if their kid seems a little depressed. It's interesting in the historical context. of video game studies in science, you know. Absolutely. And that's the other thing, too,

is like that also warrants further study, which is, okay, but are there children with certain kinds of mental health issues where the video games do aggravate it? Because there has been a correlation with aggression as well. Again, we haven't done enough studying to find out, is it that if you are more aggressive, you're more likely to want to play a video game,

or is it the video game aggravates it? is it aggravated for some conditions and not others, et cetera. So that's the way you need to approach them. Yeah. I have enough weird sort of side data just from friendships to know that if they're, if I know people that are kind of competitive-minded, they tend to play games that are extremely competitive. That makes sense, right?

It does make sense, right? There's like a sensible conclusion there, but I love it when we're applying sort of scientific method to these things because, I don't know, we're at a point now where games aren't just a weird offshoot that kids. play, we're at a place where, you know, adults in places of leadership and business and otherwise all grew up on this stuff, you know, that's just where we're at. So even the, the oldest, you know, played, I don't know, Pong or freaking missile command at the local arcade

and is now, you know, some CEO somewhere. They've all had some experience with it. And now more than ever, you know, in the 90s it was all, it was getting blamed for everything. But now more than never I just think it's more like all right well no it's everywhere now this is huge it's bigger than the entertainment industry it's bigger than the film industry um we should study it more and actually understand it and not just jump to conclusions and blame it for things yeah i'm all for this and also keep in mind not every study is studying everything uh red fragel three ask a great question don't psychological test usually do a baseline for variables like that uh you do a baseline for variables that you're studying.

So yes, depending on what you're studying, you will try to go for those variables. It depends on how you design the study and what you're after. This study was a meta study. They're saying, let's look at the data and let's look at a large enough chunk of it that it's usable. And let's see if we notice a correlation.

If we do, then that says, ah, maybe we should do a psychological study with some baselines and pursue that more. Yeah, when it comes to science, what you're looking for is important to remember that's important for the context because it's really it's easy after the fact when you're thinking about the implications of data that was found to think oh well why didn't you look at this or why didn't you ask this question or anything like that but it's actually bad science to try

to collect everything right because the because that makes the mining for the statistics and what's called pea hacking and everything really tempting to do bad statistics on the science good science is you ask a question and then you design something to answer that specific question and then more questions might come up and so that that's another hallmark of a good scientific study is you've generated a bunch of questions from from that and so now you go and answer those questions yeah this article actually has the question what is the association between video gaming and cognition and this is how they answered it and and you're right bobby that's well explained Those questions that you have about, well, why didn't you do this and what about that?

Those are the questions that's doing science after you've done your study to be like, okay, these are the questions I have. Now I need to pick one of those and then define a study like Bobby was talking about. Well, if this sounds like interesting conversation, good news. Daily Tech News show today will have more about this and much more in the lineup. So do check it out today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time. And if you're not already subbing to the podcast, you should do that as well. Tom Merritt, you've always got a million things going on. I learned about your COVID from the newsletter.

Ah, yeah. So you've probably got that going. You got other things going on. Tell us what's coming up for you. Sure, sure. Yeah. So a couple notes of programming. I won't be on Daily Detective Show with you today because I'm working on some of that other stuff.

But Sarah will be talking about this video game study with Scott. And I will be on the show because I recorded an interview with Captain Brian Hoffman about the GPS outage that happened in Dallas Fort Worth last week. Yeah, I was curious about that. And he's going to explain, you know, why aircraft have to react the way they do, why it caused delays, what are the possible causes of it and why we don't know what caused this one yet when usually we do. And he'll make his best guess about what he thinks probably caused it as well. So that will be on the show today as well, Daily Tech News Show.com.

Probably not an alien BMP, though, right? Probably not that. I don't know. Tune in and find out. Oh, you guys, you don't even know. Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited to find out myself. That's later today. 2 p.m. Mountain, Tom Merritt. I hope you continue to feel better, and we will see you next time. Thanks, y'all. Bye. Bye, Tom.

All right. I like that. Further digging into the study you brought up. Yeah. I like that a lot. I love getting different perspectives on different things. Yep. So there you have that.

Okay, recommendal is a little weird today Because Randy had a gig in the morning at work That he could not get out of So he's not here And Nicole, very last minute Also had something come up Good news is this I have two things to recommend

It was me It was you Everyone's allergic to Bobby Except me apparently I don't break out in the hives they do But I've got two recommendals For horror movies this week And then anything Bobby wants to recommend

Absolutely So I'm going to go ahead And dive us into this thing As if life depended on it Hold on a second Where the hell's of the thing There is do do do.

All right, it's time for recommendals. These are things that I've seen on streaming services here recently that I would like to share with the grander audience. And because I'm super into Halloween this year and I've been watching a lot of horror movies, as people know, I'm going to recommend a couple of them. Good news is you don't have to have a shutter subscription to see these, which is where I've been hanging out lately.

I got these on Hulu for my first one and HBO Max for my second. And I'm going to start with the top one on Hulu. this is a British movie that came out very recently and I was skeptical going in and I came away wanting to recommend it so we'll get this one out of the way first here's my clip you don't give orders anymore you're finished daddy go home I've come to rescue you it's you she needed rescuing from you and your silent partner whoever you grovel to isn't doing you much good is it look at the daughter your husband his life for. Rotting before your

eyes, just like you. You can't help anyone. Just ask your daughter. Abby? What is this? Get her over the circle. You know what'll happen if you don't? Don't turn your back on me.

All right, some mayhem there. A little bit of mayhem toward the end of that clip. The movie is called Matriarch. And it was directed by Ben Steiner. This just came out on Hulu. I believe it was imported from our friends in Britain. The brief description for this is afflicted with a mysterious disease after surviving an overdose,

a woman returns to her childhood home to confront her personal demons, but instead discovers a real one. It is creepy as crap and very weird. And I liked it a whole lot partially, or maybe even mostly because of the performance of one Katie or Kate Dickey. And you might say, who the crap is Kate Dickey? Dickey. You absolutely know her from a whole bunch of stuff. In particular, you know her from the character Ford from Prometheus. You know her from the recent Green Night film. She was

the mom in the witch. Another very weird, dark horror movie that I love. She's lady, oh, now I got to look it up so I don't get this name wrong. It was Game of Thrones. Lisa Aaron. She's the one that got tossed through the big window. Remember that? That's where I recognize her from. Yeah, breastfeeding her son way too late, all that stuff. Game of Thrones character, she's great in that as well. Something about her is just some of the most riveting acting in anything every time I see her. I just absolutely love that lady.

I don't know why she's so compelling, but she is. And she's really great in this as the mother to our main character. Matriarch also stars Simon Meecock. Yeah, Simon Meecock, which is, uh, you know, look at that. He plays Leonard, a very weird character. It's all very strange, disconcerting, tonally very like, uh, I don't know how to explain it. It's not going to, if you're, again, if you're listening to this and going, I don't like horror movies. Don't watch this movie. I would probably, you know, put it in there with like, um, midsummer, maybe hereditary, that kind of level of, of, of dark and creepy. it helps

that they're all British for some reason for me I don't know why it just does I just like British acting anyway it's really good I don't want to give away

too much but the story is is pretty trippy and goes some really interesting places and also is a movie where they're not afraid

to end it on its own terms they don't feel this film definitely didn't feel like they had to make sure a certain person survives or whatever I don't want to give

too much away but they just they're not afraid to go there and so they go there um if you have phobia is about getting black goo in your ear maybe you don't want to see this one all right that's all i'll say about the black hint hint hint there's black goo in this uh again this is on hulu this is matriarch and as christine would say sit out of luck dot com is where you're going to want to go find more information the next up is the one i reason i save this one for for second it's this is the

biggest surprise of the year for me and is and is actually going to make my top five movies of the year maybe even number one and the fact that it's a horror movie blew my mind but I'm yeah I'm very intrigued now loved this movie and here's here's here's what I'm going to commit today to absolutely spoil nothing because usually I'm not really that worried about spoilers this is a this is a movie where I want you to have the experience I had which was phenomenal because throughout the entire thing, I never knew where they were taking me. And every time they got to some sort of, you know, filmic destination, they then started taking me in a new direction that I didn't predict. I didn't know where this movie was going.

How often can you say that about horror movies? They're almost always a bundle of stereotypes and tropes that play out fine or are a lot of fun to see again and maybe painted in a different way. But this is like, The most new thing. You're getting the title, and that's it. Yeah, and the title is not even, I don't know why it's called this. So anyway, I'm going to play a clip and then we'll play it. Where are you staying while you're in town?

Oh, an Airbnb. Oh, that's nice. We're about. It's in Brightmoor. You know where that is? What? Yeah. You know it?

Are you kidding? Well, I mean, yeah, it seems a little rough. No, you shouldn't be there. What do you mean? That's not an Airbnb in Brightmoor. Yeah, I mean, like, it's a cute little house, but, yeah, I suppose the neighborhood is a little test. Well, I did try and find somewhere else, but there's, like, a convention in town or something, and I have a roommate, so it's a little complicated. I guess.

Okay, well, just be careful, okay? Seriously. I will. I'm tough. All right. That was the most non-spoilery part of the movie that I could find. This is why I recorded it there. The movie is called Barbarian.

It was recently in theaters doing quite well and reviewing quite well. But it just hit HBO Max is where it is. And Barbarian is, I don't know why it's called that, honestly. That's not even a spoiler either. It's about Diablo. Yeah, it's all about Diablo. Barbarian. Yes, I'm looking forward to their next one,

the Amazon warrior lady. What's the name of that? The Amazon. That's what they call her. Barbarian just came out and it just hit this week, HBO Max. So I watched it last night and I was blown away by it. It's at like 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. It reviewed extremely well.

So when I heard about it, I'm like, oh yeah, I'll probably watch that. I didn't know it was coming so quick. This is a movie by Zach Kregor. You've never heard of him because he's never done this before. He's known mostly for acting. So he's in a bunch of other stuff. The TV show Wrecked, where he played the character Owen, uncut and uncensored, the whitest kids you know, that show. He's in a ton of things as an actor.

He's been working since the late 90s. But this is his first writing and directing. This is his, he wrote and directed this entire thing. It stars Georgina Campbell as Tess is kind of our main titular character. Bill Scarsgard, one of the Scarsguard boys, is in this. He's the one that famously plays. he plays the it clown in the the it movies and uh so you might think ooh he's going to be up to no good very interesting character in here named keith justin long of all people is in this uh it's

i'm blown away by justin long he's really good at it and then keep your eye on a name here matthew patrick davis i won't say anything else about that dude the point is it it it grabbed me early and held me the entire time. There are moments where you think it's going to be a certain kind of movie. And then it's a very different movie. For example, you might think it points like, oh, is this a haunted house? Maybe. Maybe it isn't.

Is this a creature feature? Maybe. Is it something else entirely? Maybe. It's a bunch of stuff. And none of it was predictable. None of it, I could not foresee how this thing was going to play out, how it ended, how it started, how the middle worked itself out.

genuine scares amazing acting really great directing writing's incredible i loved barbarian loved it again if you don't like horror movies you're not going to like this one because it's got all you know it's got a lot of horror in it but it is a it is a few levels higher than you're typical for sure and it's making my best movies of the year list for sure because i just absolutely adored uh barbarian so watch barbarian bobby it's good i have questions but i don't want to ask them because i don't want to and i won't tell you i won't spoil a thing um yeah i'll the only thing i'll say is it's a horror movie that's it that's all you're going to get and you know if you're in or if you're not from that and if you're in i think

you're in for one of the best surprises in in years i haven't seen a this kind of this dude this this director zach treger this i hope is this like watershed moment where he goes oh this is my calling and then go make me a million more smart movies like this because it's amazing it's so good so i only have one question for you and this is this will be fine is are do you like do you typically are you are you a fan of horror movies i like i don't i don't like i don't like i'm not like hardcore freak show about it but i like him especially this time of year but you don't dislike no no i'd like and they i people always say well scott how how is this possible because you scream in video games when they're scary.

I've explained this before and I'll say it one more time. It's really the simple. In a movie, people are doing things I can't control and it doesn't bother me because I can't do anything about it anyway. This guy's going to be dumb and leave the window open so the guy can come in or whatever.

These are not about barbarian, by the way, nothing to do with that. But let's just say that that's the scenario. Then I'm like, well, that was dumb, but okay, that's what horror movies do. See, that guy's going to die, whatever. Like, it doesn't bother me. And I appreciate the,

craft of it, but it doesn't really make, it doesn't scare me. When I play a video game, I am in charge. I think something, yeah. I'm controlling it. You know? Yeah, exactly. It's, it's you. It's also, you are usually role playing to some extent in a game where you are the main character that you're playing, whereas when you're watching a horror movie, you're just watching it happen to other people. Yeah, exactly. If I see the movie, I might say, oh, that was gnarly. And that's the end of it. If I do that in a video game, even if it's a less of a horrible moment, you're going to hear me go, like I can't, right, I can't change. I don't know why this is about me, but for me, the different.

And Carter says, oh, I'd much rather play a scary video game than watch a scary movie, my daughter says, because she has the opposite feeling of when I'm in control, I am in control. So I can do things. Right. I don't want to be getting chased down the hall by a three. headed nightmare or whatever like i don't want to have that so you know let somebody else deal with it that's what the movies are for video games are for me deciding my outcome and sometimes that's horrible and and terrible in a video game so anyway uh again my two movies are matriarch on hulu barbarian on hbio max both great uh great recommendations but in particular barbarian yeah amazing

i don't even know what to compare it to i don't have a good comparison it's some of the best tour I've ever seen. All right. Moving on. Bobby, did you have anything you watched recently? You just think it'd be fun to recommend to people?

I've been watching, I mean, I've been watching a lot of justified finally. Oh, you know what? You know what? Because that's been, you talk about justified all the time.

I don't know if this has ever been recommended, and it may have been, but I just recently finished on Netflix, the Ricky Jervais comedy drama afterlife have you seen that no Brian recommended it here

and really liked it and it's on I haven't had it my cue forever and I just haven't gotten around to it yeah they just finished they just did the third season and I think it's their last it's got to be the last season and it's funny

but it's also very thought provoking and it can be depressing at times but also uplifting and it's just it's just an emotional journey with a lot of very British

but in particular Ricky Jervais comedy I'm in and I really really like it it deals with a lot of questions about as the name implies about death

and what it means to be someone who the whole premise of the show you get this from the very beginning of the first episode the whole premise is that Ricky Jervase's wife has died and he's dealing with the aftermath of that and how does he continue on after that after life right after life yeah exactly and so there's whole three seasons of it and it's just amazing it asks so many different questions about how we how we cope with that but also about how we live a good life and how we how we can learn better to be good to each other and i've never i've never felt like i learned how to be how to something really deeply philosophical from watching a comedy series

he's good at that I mean he's a noted you know atheist Ricky Jervais likes to explore that stuff in these projects I felt that way during it wasn't the same questions of course but I felt a lot like that watching Derek

which notably made Carter cry her freaking eyes out she cried so hard in that show but it's that same thing it's a mix of comedy and drama and questions about how we treat each other and how people act, you know, in certain situations or whatever. I like his stuff when he does that, but I haven't. Yeah, and that's absolutely something that's explored in this series is, is, I'd say if there

was one, one primary question that this, these three seasons keeps getting to over and over again, and I think does finally answer it at the end, so there's your motivation to go all the way through it is um is the main question of um how how do you regardless of your belief system and especially if you don't believe in a higher power how is it possible for you to be a good person and live a good life right right um and uh and that's a very atheist question right sure that goes to your point of how he's he's a he's a very prominent atheist and and it likes to explore those themes yeah which i i'm off i'm i'm i i i'm i i i i I don't, how do I put this?

When, when somebody just goes, blah, and then walks away, I'm less likely to be interested that if they go, blah, and then they back it up with like, exploring those issues in their art. You know what I mean? Right, right.

Like, I like that. I respect it. I know, you know, like and disrespect and whatever. Ricky Jervase has his enemies and his friends. I get it. He's not, you know, he's controversial. But I respect it when artists explore that stuff. And they can do it a little bit of humor and do a little bit of heart and, you know,

leave me wanting more, which is what afterlife sounds like. So I will check it out. That's, I'm doubling down on what sounds like you said it was Brian's recommendation at some point. Double down, baby. Check out afterlife. There you go. All right. There is your recommendals for the week.

Once again, I'll run them down. I did see matriarch on Hulu, Barbarian on HBO Max, and Netflix has the Ricky Jervais show afterlife. So check those out. All right. What else we got here? I think that's it, except for to tell folks to sign up on our Patreon if you haven't already. Patreon.com.com. TMS. Be like Matthew Eans. I'm not sure I say that last name, Matthew. Apologies, but he's awesome because he just joined us yesterday. Oh, yeah. Brand new patron. Thank you, Matthew, for joining us. You will be now able to get all the pre-show content we do every single day, plus a ton of other stuff that you can only get through the Patreon.

Find out more at patreon.com slash TMS. And for all your other needs from this show, find them at frogpans.com slash TMS. As mentioned earlier, I'll be on DT&S today. Looks like Sands Tom, but I'll be there with Sarah and Roger and all them. So that'll be today at 2 o'clock. And what else? Is that the only show that's going on? We're doing a, tonight, we're doing a TWBD, the folks that do the D&D show with me.

We just finished our major arc, right? The huge four plus year campaign that we started, ended. And we're going to do a big sort of rehash, a Q&A with each other, kind of a roundtable about what we, what we, you know, loved about the campaign, what we might do different, things about our character, some questions from the listeners. So we're doing that tonight. It won't be live stream, but we are recording it. and we'll put it out there for everybody to hear it.

So I'm pretty excited about that. So check that out. Bobby, remind people where your stuff is so they can go get some. Oh, well, I do a little science podcast called All Around Science. Me and my co-host, Mora, we talk about science on a weekly basis, just stuff going on in science news and just any interesting old thing that's going on. I'm in the middle of prepping an episode that will come out on Monday, this coming Monday, Halloween and it's going to be Halloween themed.

I'm doing a doing a, I'm going to do a feature on the science of fear and why we enjoy it and like to seek it out. Oh, interesting. So I would like to know why I seek it out, especially this time of year, like what is that about? And are we as a society, especially Americans who really go nuts for Halloween? I know all other parts of the world are like, why do you even care over there? but we do. Why? Is that a collective version of this?

Is it just the candy for kids? I know some kids that love to be scared. Like even babies, they love to be like hands behind your eyes, boo! And they go, they kind of jolting and laugh. Like,

there's something there, right? Some deep-seated biology about being scared. Absolutely. So we're going to talk about that on this upcoming episode, but we just talk about all kinds of science stuff. So check out all-around science. Claire says they do Halloween best in Ireland.

What do you guys do there? Do you dress up like a like a gin blossom? What do you do? And zombies? Zombies. You got to, you got, oh yeah, zombie, zombie, yeah, exactly. What else? You get dressed up like Christian Nairn and Behodor for a week or what's your deal?

She says they celebrate the whole month. Wow. All right. I mean, we kind of do. We got the pumpkins out and we get, you know, this spooky stuff. Our neighbor up the road's got the whole place. decked out in skeletons and stuff. If you believe Walmart, we've been celebrating since like August.

I know, right? And we're about to celebrate Christmas like tomorrow. So. Yeah. Stupid. Anyway, Costco's the worst. I was in the other day. They got a whole huge section of that place is all Christmas crap already.

Huge. Like trees pre-decorated, ready to buy right off the thing. It seems like a real bummer, but they're into it. It's not their fault. Nope. It's our fault for buying it when it comes up. And now I want one of their $1.50 hot dogs. we'll see all right that's it thank you all for listening and hanging out i've got a song to take us out on

today uh brian once again helping me make sure this happens and it came by a request this is from dustin anderson says scott and brian over the years i've listened to the two of you chuckleheads across the majority of your podcast you've never let me down well let's see how today it goes over the last few years we have fought hard to stay out of the rain of covid but last i finally caught it camping in August, believe it or not. Only the youngest never tested positive, nor had any symptoms. The whole time listening, I have been married to the best person, Vicki. It will be 20 years in the 23rd of October. Two teenage boys living at home, one in college, and the other still in high school. I provided tons of challenges throughout the years, but we have prevailed. Through ups and downs,

good health and bad, we have stayed together. Vicky, here's to many, many, many more happy years. I don't have any song in mind. I figured Brian could pull something from his extensive cover knowledge. Scott and Brian, keep doing what you're doing best, entertaining us, Tad Pooligans. Any chance I can get Scott to play the angry Daryl clip since I missed it back in the daylight savings time in spring. Okay, so you got to hear this. It's been a while since I've played it, but it is one of Daryl's best contributions to the show. He recorded this on his phone. And is this it? Hold on. Well, the new phone books arrived. Guess where it goes. Directly into the recycle bin. What a f***ing waste. Okay. That's

not the one that's kind of in the vein of what we're looking for here but that ain't it um okay where is it oh is this one here it is thanks a lot fucking time change it's a middle of the night that i'm going to work now it's pretty good is daylight savings this week it's not this week is it when's the fall for or fall back thing is that soon hold on daylight savings Sunday, November 6th. Okay, we got time. I'm not ready for that yet. Although I get an hour with that one, right?

Yeah, you get an hour. You fall back. I mean, they fool me into feeling like I get an hour is what I'm trying to say. Because they don't actually give me anything. Were they talking about getting rid of it? And didn't everyone agree? And are we still doing it? It was the most nonpartisan thing I'd heard for the last seven years that everybody was for changing it.

President all the way down through Congress, everybody was like, yes. What happened? Did they just forget to? I don't know. Maybe, maybe there's a plan and they got to, like, do something. It says, chat says we're waiting on Congress, but why? They were all, like, good to go. They're starting next year. Okay. Well, I mean, look, I know that the wheels of change are slow. Okay. I understand that. But I would like to quit dancing in the hours. Okay. Can we quit doing that? That's, it's effed. All right. Anyway, we're going to play the song. Everybody wants to rule the world. This is a cover by a band or artist named Lucius. and that's all I know about it.

I don't know why Brian picked it, except he likes it. So I believe in that. If I believe in anything, it's that. So I'm going to play that, and we'll be back tomorrow with a new show. Brian probably will be here. He says he's definitely feeling the upswing. So we're planning on that. If not, I don't know, you might hear Bobby for a third day.

I don't know. I'll be here. That'll be, that's three days in a row. I don't think we've ever had it. Maybe I'll just be here anyway. Maybe you can go, all three of us, we can go morning zoo. Oh, my Lord. full morning zoo. Oh my gosh. I don't think we can do it. Well, anyway, we'll see what happens.

Best to him and all the rest he needs today. Otherwise, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a great night. We'll see you then. Night. Have a nice day. We'll see you then. Or night. Or night. Whatever. while we sleep we will find you acting of your best behavior turn your back over the nature everybody everybody

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