The Morning Stream - TMS 2373: Ulf Busdriversson

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, there's a door on the roof. Floss Pan Studios. Catch up the Gathering. Mashed potatoes regret. It's 4 million Afflex and 364 Bouchemies away. It's your kids' woman. Mythical metals of lore. We still have tungsten.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Horny Doss days. Cloudy with a chance of musk. This comma changes everything. Thanks for coming to my tater talk. Knuckle deep Alzheimer's. Nailing tech to our foreheads with Tom. How to Clean Your Vessel Recommendals with Nicole and Randy and more. on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:00:31 The Social Register is a flutter as Patricia Plunkett, who was acclaimed last season, presents to Josephine Johnson the bouquet that makes her the glamour deb of 1940. Big G. Cereals presents The Magic Secrets Video. The Morning Stream. Sometimes I can and sometimes I can.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And who gives a damn? Greetings and hello and welcome to the morning stream for November 2nd, 2022. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Nibbitt. Hello, and happy hump day. Happy middle of the week. We got a 222 going, folks. Oh, we do, don't we?
Starting point is 00:01:23 At 11-22. Yeah. It's not as cool as like a 222. Now, how are you going to feel about December 2nd, 12, 22, because it's a 1-2-2-2-2-2-2. I mean, that's as close as we'll get until another pure number. We don't get that until what, 20-23? 33. March 3rd, 233?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, man. That sucks. That's a long time from now. I want to celebrate more of these. Anyway, welcome back to the show, everybody. Hey, we got some show for you. We got all kinds of things. Recommend us later.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's a fun. You know, Wednesdays are fun, I think. I like them. Tom will be here. We got all kinds of fun stuff lined up. But before we go too far, I want to say this. Carter left yesterday, right? That was a thing.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, yeah. Got there safely, all as well. However, when she got to Reykjavik, apparently everybody there was a little grumpy. Okay. And I said, yeah, grumpy Icelanders at 7 a.m. in the morning. Of course, for her, she was like already kind of jet lagged. It's supposed to be nighttime for her. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Sure. But she got there and they were just all a little bit grumpy. She doesn't quite know where to go. No one's there picking her up or anything. So she's got to figure her stuff out. Oh, wow. Okay. She has some directions and stuff. So she's doing that. She finds this bus. The bus is supposed to take her to a drop that she thinks is just right there by the place she's staying. So it's supposed to be a perfect little space. She gets on this bus. The bus is fine. They get to the thing and it's a drop, but it's like another four to six blocks away. to where she's living which is a long way to go if you're dragging a giant bag plus your carry-on bag plus your other bag so it's a lot and it's early in the morning
Starting point is 00:03:03 and people are grumpy and she's just not sure what she's going to do and this bus driver says in his very thick Icelandic accent where are you going and she explained
Starting point is 00:03:13 and he goes oh yes the stop doesn't go that far but I will take you and this guy just took her on the bus I'll buy her lonesome after he dumped everybody else off and took her straight to the door.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It was the nicest thing. Oh, that's so awesome. I feel like I want to send that guy something nice, and I don't even know who that is. We're never going to hear from him again. But, man, nice things go a long way. And it came all the way back to here where, you know, I've been a little worried about her.
Starting point is 00:03:39 She's on her own. Of course. You want those first interactions to be good ones because they kind of set the foundation for the rest of her trip there. Exactly. So thank you bus driver rando, dude, for being nice.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And I hope all the people she meets today because they're all arriving today. I hope they're all very nice as well. I mean, we've heard Icelanders. His name is Ulf, Bus Driverson. Yeah, Bus Driverson has three S's. Right. Long line of bus driversons over there, and they all drive the bus.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Many bus driversons. Yeah. Sounds like something we'd get at an IKEA. Do you notice IKEA prices are up? We've been there lately? No, I haven't been there in a while. I thought they would stay kind of inflation-proof. Nobody is, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But that place was like, I don't know. I just thought it would. always be known for that. It's less expensive. Yeah, like, cheap, exactly. Like, oh, you need a bookcase? How does $12 sound? $12 sound good for a bookcase? Okay, there you know. Now it's a lot more for stuff, and I don't, I don't like it, sir. No, I don't. Anyway, so thank you for. It's those damn Democrats, God, they're putting all, making all the prices up. You know, they want those presses to go up. Yeah, that's what they want. And then when they take
Starting point is 00:04:47 power again, we can blame it on them, just like everybody. It's the stupidest. You know what it comes down to it's got nothing to do with government it's got everything to do with greedy corporate bullshit and demand and exactly in greedy corporations yeah the supply and demand part i get if we all raise our prices together yeah uh then we can all make more money and there won't be uh one person who's like uh you know able to capitalize on that oh i love it let's let's do it yeah they're in cohoots you know corporate cahoots we call it around here around these places right right well anyway welcome to inflation time it's uh a good time to be alive all right let's move on we got this right here this would be this would be fun uh we got a text from
Starting point is 00:05:28 a listener this is from uh oh they're anonymous i don't have their name okay regarding titanium because you know this titanium thing keeps coming up so man you know i thought when cia when we were when we were when we had see a song i thought we were done with titanium you thought that was going to be the end all be all of titanium well i got bad news for you we got one at least one more email about it um or text in this case he says regarding titanium not unlike you i grew up believing titanium to be the near, indestructible super metal. That is exactly what I thought growing up. That's what I believed.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, that's so too. Yeah. So you can imagine my disappointment when I first had the opportunity to work with it and found out it offered only slightly more resistance to my tools than your average stainless steel. Oh, man. Wow. Says most of it's just the, sorry, mostly it's just the loss of childlike wonder that has
Starting point is 00:06:19 lessened its status for me, like much of humanity. I wish to craft with my mythical metals of lore, i.e. Orchallium. How do you say that? Orichalum? Orichalum. Whatever that is. Mythreal, obviously. These are all mythical things. I don't know where that first one came from. Anyway. However, I have learned to appreciate what we have. Boring old steel, as we all must. Apologies for a long test. Have a great day. So he didn't really get into why. I use works with metals, obviously. Or a calcum, as Hank de Crabbs says. Or a calcum? What's that? Is that from like a Lord of the Rings thing or something? What's that from?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the source. It'll let us know in a second. I'm sure. You know what it is? It's the fact that the word begins with Titan. Like it's the first five letters.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Titan. Titanium. Titanium. Like it's, you know, it's supposed to sound like it's, uh, huge and big and indestructible and powerful.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But it's, uh, it is lighter though, right? That's the why why people get it in their bikes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if anything, it's probably less sturdy. No. Okay. Here's what I was told, and you know what, this is still true. The reason titanium is cool and still cool is that it's only slightly tougher than steel. That's still better than steel, but also weighs a lot less than steel does and still retains the toughness. That still makes it a badass metal. Don't you think? Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I think it's a transition. According to Wikipedia, it's a transition metal with a silver color, low density and high strength, resistance.
Starting point is 00:07:51 corrosion in seawater, aqua, rigia, and chlorine. So that's another advantage is that it's, uh, it's, it can't, it doesn't rest. Oh, I see. It's got some chlorine. So it's like, it's like, it's like it's like, it's like it's like. That's right. Exactly. But yeah, so like for, for, um, medical parts like, you know, uh, prostheses and, uh, dental implants
Starting point is 00:08:16 and things like that, it's, it's going to be lighter. Um, um, and more water resistant or more corrosion resistant than anything else. Do you think platinum's still cool? Like in your head, do you think when people say platinum, you're like, yeah, platinum, that's cool. No, platinum's only good for record albums.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah, it feels like, or fake money in a video game. Oh, Olivia Rodrigo's gone platinum. Yeah, but not titanium. She probably did go platinum, right? I'm sure she did. That album's great and it deserved to go platinum. She's a popular lady, you know, the trick part now. stand behind that at that album yeah it's good the tricky part now she has to follow it up and that's hard
Starting point is 00:08:54 yes yes the the sophomore slump the uh the second album always tougher than the first yep and there are cases where you get derided for your second effort and then later everybody discovers what an amazing thing it is i'll give you an example it's like beastie boys paul's boutique man paul's boutique is one of the greatest records hip-hop records ever made but when it came out people are like eh this doesn't sound like licensed to ill at all this is not good where's my fight for your right to party. Yeah, that's what I want. This isn't fun. This is much fun.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah, that's lame. And it turned out to be so good. And now everybody, I think most people agree. It's one of their best things they ever did. Yeah. So, you know, Olivia Rodrigo, I know you're listening. Just do you, baby. Do you do what you got to do. Pinkerton was a Weasers, Pinkerton was a similar thing, right? People weren't, that's about Pinkerton at first.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I was like, oh, they haven't had anything good since Pinkerton. That's their best album now. That's true. Are they, are they meaning multiple people? over there at Beck? I assumed it was just him. Is it more people than just him? No, I didn't say Beck. I said Weezer, didn't I? Oh, I thought you said Beck. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You probably did say Weezer. No, you probably said Weezer. Okay. Yeah, my brain is about half a lot today. But Beck's second album? Probably a similar thing, right? Because Odle-Lay, or no, what was the first? It was overlay. Overlay. Odley, right? Is it Odle-A? I have no idea. No, fifth album was Odle-A. What was the first
Starting point is 00:10:15 one that had Luzer on it? Um, uh, mellow gold. Mellow gold. Yeah. Everyone thought that was going to be it. And yeah, when he came out with, um, whatever his second album was, it was like, I don't know, that's not as good. When did the devil's haircut happen? Not his hit factory is, what's that?
Starting point is 00:10:32 When did the devil's haircut happen? When was that? That was Odley, I think it was devil's haircut. I still really like that song, even though that was kind of a hip factory type song, but. Yeah. And new pollution and where it's at. I got two turntables in the microphone. Wicked wiki.
Starting point is 00:10:46 The other thing I like is how Pearl Jam seemed to have this moment of, like, two perfect albums, and then they just made what they wanted to make for the rest of their careers. And if you're a fan, you love all of it. And if you weren't paying attention, it's because it wasn't on the radio anymore. They didn't play those guys anymore. All right. So the first album was Verses? Yeah, 10 was second, right?
Starting point is 00:11:08 10 was second. Oh, yeah. 10 was great. 10 was huge. 10 put them on the map, I think, really. Versus was good, too. But 10 was, like, the big one with all the hits and stuff. And it just felt like after that they were like,
Starting point is 00:11:18 I'm going to make the music I want to make. And then they never played it on the radio. I got it. I flipped them. Ten was first. Oh. Ten, then versus. And then vitology.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Vitology. Is that it? Oh, some of the chaps in. Yeah, the chaps. I seem to recognize. You've heard of here. Buttered ham. Bunting familiar years seem to blaze it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 When did they do Temple of the Dog? That was in the middle of all that. That's right. Yeah. Ah, the 90s. It's a great time. Yeah. Anyway, metal.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Titanium's great. And keep using it. Yeah, keep on rocking, titanium. You're lightweight and you're only slightly better than stainless steel durability. Yeah, I haven't lost any love for you, titanium. Keep on being who you are and be your best self. All right. Let's move on to some done-away goodness.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And that also means I've got to log in because I'm slow. Oh, please log in. and please find us a contestant. I'm going to do that. Before I do that, though, hold on. Why won't this work? This isn't working. Okay, I'll play this.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's time for some Tad Pooley feud, and that means Brian Dunaway joins us from his domicile. No, he's at work today probably, this headphone thing. Brian, what's going on? How are you doing over there? This headphone thing. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, hi. Oh, hello. How's it going? You good? Yeah, hello? I'm good. I'm good. hear me?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, I can tell you. So you're Chuckie Monday. What is your attire for Dia de los Mertos? Los Mertos. Yeah, what are you doing? I'm Brian. Oh, is that it? That's all you got?
Starting point is 00:12:59 Oh, you're like those teenagers. You're like those teens who think they're funny. They come to the door and you say, who are you? And they just say, I'm just me. Yeah, you're like that. Just me. I'm disaffected teenager. You made a lie?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Okay, then I'm, uh, I'm John Luke Picard. Yeah, you're John Luke Pickard. I like it. Make it so, number two. You don't speak English anyway. Yeah. Well, you really, that was an amazing impression of Patrick Stewart you just did.
Starting point is 00:13:26 That was incredible. Oh, oh, thank you. I've been working on it for five seconds. Make it so number two. That was good. Wow. Goal number two, get your, close up your crotch. No one wants to see that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No. Look, I was watching the third season of Picard right here on this show. I know. It's amazing. You can't see me. What really sells it is me pulling. back my hair like I'm bald on top yeah yeah I know and I believe wow I even believe it even more even though I can't see you it's crazy uh all right let's find out who we got waiting on the line for us and
Starting point is 00:13:55 who's going to play today hi thanks for holding who's this it's raven ctg from the chat well hello raven how are you excuse me I'm a little choked up oh don't be choked up oh it's okay yeah I wish it was that kind of choked up instead you just got some kind of goo in your in your throat right so what does the ctg stand for I've always wanted to ask you this. Chip Theory games. Oh, there you go. I thought it was maybe a collectible
Starting point is 00:14:21 trading cards. Or no, collectible trading game. Yeah, yeah. CCG is a collectible card game. Magic the gathering. Command the game. Gather all the catch-up you can. Yeah. Well, it's good to be.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Our things are kind of expensive, but you could collect them all. Well, that's cool. I'd be happy to do it. All right, well, let's get into this. We got a contestant. We got another Brian for me to fight against, and we're going to try to win some prizes. Brian, explain these rules. Right. It's time to play the tadpool if you.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian are you going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. Boy, do we have a nerdy topic today. It is Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, Raven CTG, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes Kill Squad. And rogue heroes, ruins of tasos.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Not ruins of tacos, but ruins of tasos. It's Tasos Tuesday. No, it's Wednesday. Can't do that anymore. That's right. It's Tasos Wednesday, which is what you do after Taco Tuesday. Those are both fine steam selections. Nicely done.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yes, both of those courtesy of our friend, Wesley. Thank you, Wesley, for your contributions. That was really good. You should do all my Picard impressions. I know. Brian does a decent Picard. I will put that out there. I can only do four impressions.
Starting point is 00:15:44 All right. Let's get to the tadpully feud. Get your hands on your buzzers there. And we asked 494 tadpullers. We're on to the new survey stuff. Finally, this is the first question in that. We asked 494 tadpullers to give their best answer to this. Name a DOS-based PC game.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Scott. Doom. Doom. Show me. Doom. Number one answer with 60. No brainer. No briner.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I feel good about that. Ted Buller is saying that one, yeah. All right, well, that means that you automatically get control of the board. And Raven, CTG gets control of you. So two of you will be working together to see what you can do. Well, that's so Raven, isn't it? Hey, Raven, tell me, sorry, it's terrible. In 90s kids, we'll love it, though.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Tell me, do you have anything that pops in? I mean, I got an immediate follow-up to this. brain goes to, but I don't want to assume. What do you think? Descent? What was the word? Or the game? Descent. Descent. Oh, Descent. Oh, my gosh. I'd love dissent. Classic. Yeah, let's choose dissent. Man, that game was decent. You're my favorite. Descent was great.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Show me. Descent. Oops. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I gave the strike. There we go. It's a Scott strike, not a Brian's strike. Descent was number. People did say descent. Where the heck is? Descent. Uh, number 41, surprisingly. I love that game, too, though. I don't think, I think there's just, it's lost to it. It's lost to a generation, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's unfortunate, because that game was so cool in today. It was very rad. Well, you won my heart. I thought it was a good answer. Yeah. I did too. Don't feel bad, Raven. Brian, it's down to you then.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Do you got a, you got a thing here? That's so Raven. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. On air light, what? Oh, how about, uh, I'm going to go. with some Wolfenstein 3D, right
Starting point is 00:17:49 before the do. Sure. Your visits to the castle, Castle Wolfenstein. Sure. Rippenstein? And three dimensions is the way it worked.
Starting point is 00:18:00 All right, show me Wolfenstein 3D. Number four. Damn it. Wurfenstein. You really, I know what you're not getting today?
Starting point is 00:18:11 You guys aren't getting this fantastic lag that I'm getting, and it's hilarious. I'll say something. Yeah, I love it. This fan, freaking-tastic. That's great.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Nicely done on your end, because that ain't ass. Keep gone. Oh, oh, oh, wow. Can a victim blame? No, listen. I can hear everybody else is coming. No, not a victim blamer. Everybody else is hearing me right away except you, so I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Something's weird. Anyway, go ahead. Continue. Maybe I've already said something. Maybe. Maybe you're the one lagging. Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:43 How do I know? I don't know. going to go with one we played recently the reason why I had to get into my Windows 3-1. I don't know if it's on the list or not. I'm going with the secret of Monkey Island.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Ah, Secret of Monkey Island. Lucas Arts. Yeah. Yeah, I had to get a, I had to do some emulation to get that thing running. Sure, yeah, absolutely. On the DOS box. Show me the secret of Monkey Island.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Oh, that's a shame. That's a real shame. You young and sorry. Secret Monkey Island was number 33 in the list, surprisingly. Well, our answer next should be Quake, because Quake was a huge, gigantic DOS game, and everybody played Quake. Yeah. Yep. All right. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Get back to the screen. I had my spreadsheet pulled up. All right. Show me quake. Oh, what? Are you kidding me? Oh, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Oh, this is rigged. I think everybody who would have said Quake, ended up just saying But I said the other two Yeah, that's what I was wondering Hold the way down at number 36 Because I think like you said If people are going to say,
Starting point is 00:19:52 Blake, they just wouldn't say. That makes so no sense to me. I don't understand. I don't even know who I am anymore. Who are? What are we doing? Who are we? Man.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That makes this real life so much no sense to me too. Yeah. All right. Dono way fix this problem. What else was there? Then I'm going to go with all those horny doss days of leisure suit Larry.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You had to really work for your, uh, to get your fix. You know what I mean? You know what I mean. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, what you mean. Yeah, that's it. All right. Show me a leisure suit, Larry.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Are you kidding? On the board. This beat, this beat freaking quake. Are you kidding? Beat quake. I'm blown away by that. Suck it, quake. I don't even believe it.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That's crazy. I'm worried. Right. Okay. Um, oh my gosh. All right. How about some, I know we're going to be doing this one soon. I haven't mentioned it, Scott, yet.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And I'm really excited about getting, no, they wouldn't say, well, maybe, no. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. This is a fun journey through the mind of Brian Dunaway. Yeah, it really was. How about we go, how about we go with some Sierra games? Most of the good ones were on Doss. How about we, how about we go?
Starting point is 00:21:14 with the King's Quest that we talked about and I'll play retro not a long ago. Sure. King's Quest. I had to play in the DOS Box. All right. The DOS Box. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Show me King's Quest. Pick up, pick up sword. Gosh, dang it. Number five. You guys are, you and Brian in the audience are in sync, man. There we go. I keep clicking on the wrong names to give points to.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I figure at least some of these people listen to the play retro show, right? I mean, some. Yeah. Oh, is that your line of thinking? You'll just keep going down that list? Well, I'm just trying to think back What I played recently on the DOS box is what I'm mostly trying to do And just anything else is this is this gravy
Starting point is 00:21:51 Um, how about some uh Oh my gosh Yeah How about the uh, the uh, oh Yeah, yeah Come on, Redneck Rampage. I don't want to say it, but It's really important to me.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I just recently played it. I just recently played it. I, but the chat rooms, oh, they're just the, Come on. Come on, Tadpool. Up a brother out. All right. It's what happens when you run out of fire sauce.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Show me Redneck Rampage. Come on. That one's pretty small. Like a losers. Let's see. That's way down on the list. There it is. Well, tied for 41st place because only one person said it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Okay. Raven, you got anything? that pops. Hey, do you have who said that? Was it me? Hey, shut out. I don't know who said it. I don't know names, sadly, because I'd love to throw shade on somebody who just goes
Starting point is 00:22:53 pass all the way through the survey. Yeah, yeah. All right, sorry. Raven, what were you saying? Sim City. Oh, Sim City's good. Sim City. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yep. Good call. All right. Sin City. Show me the City of Sim. Number six. All right. Now Scott's making some headlight.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Now that tells me that civilization's probably on. here. The original SIV was also a DOS game and I would be shocked if that's not on here. Although I was shocked, Quake is still leaving me breathless here. I can't believe that's not on there. But let's do Siv, Civilization 1 or 2 or whatever. Show you out any
Starting point is 00:23:27 civilization. Show me civilization. Oh my gosh. I know. Number 24. Number 24, unbelievably, yes. Wow. So, here's where we're at. Brian needs to run the board in order
Starting point is 00:23:43 for Raven to take home the prizes. There are five answers. Brian can't get any wrong or else the round will be over. Yeah, and you got one strike, and that's it. One strike, exactly. I feel like we're at a real time. Oh, am I at a winning right now? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah, you're in the lead by 11 points. So you need to win the... Oh, so I had to run the board. You have to run the board. Holy hell. Half of the answers that if you've hardly been able to predict are still up on the board. so you guys can help me out Raven so if you guys want to help out that's right
Starting point is 00:24:17 I was the next thing I was gonna say was Brian can we help him Ibitt Oh sure yeah I want I want I want I want Raven to win these prizes so Help them out All right I was gonna
Starting point is 00:24:29 I was saying a stuff like Warcraft or fallout That's what I was gonna say You got a chat room full of Warcraft fans And I also think My so those were Windows 3 Those were Windows 3 1 games they were just prior to 95. So you're talking about DOS still
Starting point is 00:24:45 because Windows 3-1 was really just a shell on DOS. So I think it counts, but I don't know what Brian did here. Yeah, I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't say that out of the most. Far were you? Well, how about some... I think about games where you types of stuff. I'm going to look in the chat room and go with Oregon Trail then
Starting point is 00:25:05 because that's going to like a safer bet. Yeah, let's say that. All right. Show me Oregon Trail. Number two. What happens if you die from dysentery, number two? Quick, quick recommendation of the Apple. Other than Kings Quest, do you want to like a space quest?
Starting point is 00:25:22 Do you think that might be in there, too? I see one that keeps coming up in the tadpole quite a bit that you probably should. Zork or Mist, Ultima? What do you guys think? Zorke. So, like, if I was like, I was maybe like doing some more text adventuring, like Zork maybe? Yeah, that would be a good answer? Do Zorke.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I don't say that. Show me, Zork. Number three. That's where babies come from. I love how we bend the rules of this game. So much. I love it. My gosh.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Now, I don't even know. I have seen people type these other three in chat, but it's been a little while since I've seen somebody say it. Not rigged at all, they say in the chat, yeah. I'll say that one.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's only rigged to win. It's not, It's not a guarantee, and it's only rig to win. It's not rig to lose, like, the house. Yeah, exactly. Think of it that way. Exactly, yes. This isn't, we're not trying to help the Bellagio get more money here.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Right. Yeah. I mean, I've seen people say missed a pretty good bit. Yeah, don't see that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, use the force. I would say that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I would say if you're looking at the tab pool, if you're looking at the tab pool, use the force. Right. I got you. So that would be a Minesweeper then. No. Dark, forces? Oh, X-wing, do X-wing, X-wing, X-wing.
Starting point is 00:26:49 That's got it. Don't say that one. No, don't say that one. No, don't see that. Oh, really? Dark forces, it's it. You all were terrible Doss gamers back then. Terrible Doss gamers.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Like, Jedi 71 says something. Look at the Jedi in our tadpull. Now we're just, now we're just flat out cheating. Now we're just, we're just, So scorched earth would be kind of a good one. Oh, that's a really good one. Let's try that one. Let's try that one.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Show me scorched earth. How is that on there? Scorched Earth over quake. What is up? Wow, it is the last one, though. I will give them that. Texas is like, no cheating. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:29 We are really, really, edge of this one. Talley's old 2018 joke of OK Boomer. None of us are boomer. I thought about a heretic in fallout earlier, but you said those were non-starters. Yeah, I wouldn't say those, man. I mean, like, you know, just flat out, just giving him a prize to. Duke Nukem says, says our guest, that's pretty good. Oh, did Ravens say that?
Starting point is 00:27:55 She just did. I think Duke is a good one. I should totally think that Duke Nukem is like a great answer. Yeah. All right. All right. Show me Duke Nukem. Nice.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Oh, very good. All right. Running the board seems possible now. We're going to get it. Yeah, possible. Why don't you tell us the last answer, Ibit? Just, you know, another in software game, side screen.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Oh, yeah, well, that's, I was always thinking about a hex. Commander Kane, Commander King, Commander King, that would be a good one. If I was to guess one, yeah, Commander King was a SFC one. All right, let's guess that. Yeah. Show me Commander Kean. Oh, my gosh, what? Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You're a winner. You're freaking dead it. I can't believe. Against all odds, truly. We cleared the board. Nicely done. Hey, Brian, remind us what she won. She won some cool gifts and prizes.
Starting point is 00:28:48 She won some cool games. Yeah, exactly. Listen, I'll help out when it's a really tough category like this. When you guys blow five strikes before you've got five answers on the board. Jesus. Right. It was rough. Yeah, Raven, you're taking home Kill Squad and Rogue Heroes Ruins of Tasos on Steam.
Starting point is 00:29:07 So good luck. Oh, Ruins of Tasos. It just hit me what that is. That is, speaking of Mist, it's in the vein of mist. It's a puzzler thing. You're this robot and there's no humans left. And you've got to kind of puzzle your way through it. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's such a good game. I'm glad you won it, Raven. How do you feel about your big win? Yeah, yeah. Oh, she's muted. Sorry. My thing muted her automatically and it was not supposed to do that. Anyway, sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Say what you're going to say. Oh, I said I had a really rough week last week. So this is really great. Oh, well, I'm glad we could be here for you. I'm glad that there was a tiny little nudge that we were able to provide in this game. For a second, I thought she said I had some... The hand of God. I thought she said she had really bad meat last week, but she said she had a really bad week last week.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah, really bad meat could lead to a really bad week. I agree. Try to have good meat. And thank you for playing with us. You were awesome. Send me to email, Raven, at Coverville at gmail.com, and I'll get your prizes. Yep, he'll hook you up like a hooker-upper. than Brian is. Like a hooker upper?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Like a hooker upper. It's the quicker hooker upper. Anyway, hey, Donaway, you did a great job. And here's another thing you did a great job at. Last night,
Starting point is 00:30:16 we put up a play retro and it was all about the good old days, I think, of like space invaders, Blackie and Gallagher, early shooters, stuff that,
Starting point is 00:30:25 man, without those, I don't even know where we're at with the shooter genre. Yeah. So anyway, go check that one out.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That was full of nostalgia. I had tons of great stories about my arcade days with my dad and stuff. because that's just right when it happened, man. That was the heyday. So go check it out. That's Play Retro wherever you get your podcasts or at Play Retro over at Frogpants.com
Starting point is 00:30:44 slash Play Retro. Hey, Denow, you got anything else you'd like to say? Yeah, even more exciting is next week when we, uh, look here, brother. We're going to do some wrestling. Yeah. Ressel games. All the best. We're going to do our top five wrestling games of the 8 and 16 bit era.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Wow. How will you guys ever come up with five? I know. There's only a million. Right. There's only a million to choose from. There's only a 40 to choose from. Yeah, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But there are some standouts, and we're going to talk about those. And why wrestling is underappreciated in video game form. It's plenty appreciated in the real-life, fake sport thing that it is, right? The thing that it is now, great, nicely done, the spectacle. But we have forgotten how good a good wrestling game can be. And we'll talk more about that next week as well. Brian Dunaway kiss our butts and we'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Cut him off where he could say anything. me ma ma ma ma ma ma ma we'll talk to him more on uh saturday with some film sack that's right what are we doing i forgot what we're doing true lies oh true lies that's right brian's going from slowly remove your top dance for me slower slower can you guess what my intro is going to be scud i have a feeling your intro wrote itself in a weird way slowly take off your top I don't know why. He's Indian suddenly.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I don't know why. I don't know why that is, but yeah. Weird. All right. It's time for some news. We got news. Here's the news. The news today is brought to you by.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Too much potato. I had too much potato last night. In what form was your potato? Mashed potato. Ah. Was there gravy involved? No. No gravy, but chicken and beans.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Those were fine and, you know, good lean chicken. some nice veggie beans, all that. Oh, veggie beans even. Well, beans, excuse me, beans that we got at the local farm over here. And so they were fresh and good and healthy and all that, not frozen. But then the mashed potatoes came. And they were left over some the other day. And Kim made them for everybody.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And, you know, my eyes are sometimes a little bigger than they need to be when it comes to mashed potatoes. Yeah. Well, let's just say I regret it. I eat too many. Yeah. I would have a hard time as well. Like it's, mashed potatoes are a weakness of mine, especially if there's gravy or just some good butter and pepper and salt on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You'd cream them up and put stuff in there that was never meant to be in a potato. You know, when you mix those with shredded potatoes and make little patties and fry them up, you've got the delicious Irish treat boxy. Yeah. I didn't realize, I didn't know that's all there was to it. I could make those. is to it. Yeah, you just basically take your leftover mashed potatoes, mix them with shredded potatoes.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah. Form them into little patties, put them a little oil and fry them up and you've got like a really good, like you have those with eggs, have those with some like a racher of bacon, sausages, bangers. Okay, well now you're... Zoe says put some cheese and melt the
Starting point is 00:33:54 cheese in there, garlic. Oh, yes. Okay. I know what I'm doing after the show today. Mashed potato boxy. That sounds really good. Does anybody check on Claire? She's got COVID. She was here earlier.
Starting point is 00:34:06 She was complaining about the house buying process and money, like the financial things that she's having to deal with where they give her too little time to take care of that stuff. So I think she had to leave. Well, I went to you have to sit down and sign four billion papers that they tell you were no big deal and you don't have to read, but somehow they need them. Really? Can we? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 No kidding. Well, look, we're in a day and age where so much stuff can. be done on the internet can i pre buy my car on the internet and then just go to the dealership and sign a couple things can i pre like do all the paperwork from my new house online and then just meet with the realtor for like five minutes sign two pieces of paper and call it good it might actually be more possible now than ever that's possible i would think so right we refied at the beginning of the pandemic or early in the pandemic and yeah they had us do everything online except for the quick visit everybody was masked up for a quick visit and a thing
Starting point is 00:35:02 and then we signed one final document or something. It was like a change, and that was it. So I think that's easier than ever. But in Ireland, who knows what they do? You'll write it all down on paper the way God meant it to be. Now, how many sheep are you going to be giving us for this? That's right. It'll be 20 sheep, and if you don't do it by noon today, it'll be 30 sheep.
Starting point is 00:35:25 That's how they roll over there, right? Exactly right, yes. Fry your potato. All right, let's get into the deal here. Yeah, yeah. A monstrous asteroid. We talked about this a little bit with Bobby. With Bobby yesterday, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah, speeding past Earth. A large, potentially hazardous asteroid is expected to swing fewer than six lunar distances from the Earth at the beginning of next month. They don't go into it here, but a lunar distance is one moon away. Correct. The distance from the Earth to the Moon. Oh, okay. This is between us and the moon, not the width of the moon times six. Not the width of the moon.
Starting point is 00:35:59 No, it's basically from the Earth to the Moon. six times, and it's less than, it's closer than that. Do they, do they measure from the outside circumference of the Earth to the outside circumference to the moon, or is it center point of both? Oh, like from radial center point in the middle. Yeah, like what, you know, the center point of the moon to the center point of Earth when it's like a lunar distance. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:36:23 My guess is surface to surface. Bobby. Yeah, Bobby, Bobby. My guess is it's surface to surface if I had to guess, but I could be wrong. Yeah, that's an interesting question. Because you can't, because you're not going to, like, distance would mean if it was center to center, it implies that you went from the core of the earth to the core of the moon, and that would be your traveling distance. And I just don't know if they'd count that. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Because you're never going to go there. Bobby Frank says center point. Really? And is that measure, like, is that the closer? Because the moon has an elliptical orbit around us, where it's like at a perigee, apogy, where it's closer. I don't know which is which. waning, waxing. Did you ever the name where Apogee came from for the game company Apogee?
Starting point is 00:37:06 They stole it from that? Oh yeah, it may be. So is that the moon at its closest point that it said it's Apogee or furthest point? Speaking of old boss games, Apogee was big, those days. Average distance, okay. Average distance, okay. So it is center to center. I would have never guessed that.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That's crazy to me. Wow. Well, anyway. My distance is the center hole. The center hole. The asteroid known as 2022 RM4. sounds like a new video format crappy name i agree the rm4 boy you've got names give it a name the encoding on rm4 is so bad you need to go back to the mp4s anyway it's expected yeah called the aflac yeah
Starting point is 00:37:41 called the a asteroid after people who are in the movie arm again can we just do that why not um it's expected to fly past earth november 1st so yesterday at about 1.5 million miles away at its closest point so this happened and we didn't really notice um it'll pass by the blue planet about 52,500 miles per hour. That's really what gets you. If that thing hit the Earth, what gets you isn't the size. It's the speed at which it's hurtling toward you.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Sure. That's what it gets you. Let's see. It says here, any object that comes within 120 million miles of the sun is deemed a near-earth object. Well, aren't we the cocky bunch? Ooh, a near-earth object, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Oh, 120 million? Any large body within 4.6 million miles of Earth is classified with the astronomical term, quote, a potentially hazardous asteroid or a PHA. So there you go. Wow. This particular RM4 is also an Apollo-type asteroid, which is a class of object named for asteroid 1862 Apollo,
Starting point is 00:38:45 which I guess is a... Much better name. Name them that. Yeah. This RM4. I agree. Name it a 2022. It's like the people who are coming up with, you know, COVID variants are also naming asteroids.
Starting point is 00:38:56 How about B-A-5? B.A. 5. What does the B.A. stand for? I don't know. B.A. F. I don't know. B.A. F. I don't know. Let's move on to. Is it possible that there's the big cover-up in NASA right now? NASA has looked ahead, and they've done their projections. They've figured out that in five years, there is an asteroid that is actually on course to hit Earth. And so they're like, how long do we keep this secret? Let's just, you know, say just in case we're, like, firing missiles at Asteroids. asteroids to to test things and we're just doing this as a test we're just you know nothing don't worry folks things are fine but uh you know let's let's maybe try a few more missile hitting asteroid tests and yeah we never know until it's like that's the the uh the the plot of that movie that came out last year what was that called oh uh no no no no moonfall no but uh we're all gonna die or something. Don't look up. That was it. Don't look up. Yes. Right. Okay. That was, right. That's true. Caprio and all those people. Did you ever, you did see that one, right? Yeah, I liked it. It was good. Yeah. Yeah. It was a
Starting point is 00:40:05 Adam McKay joint. Jennifer Lawrence, not looking very Jennifer Lawrence. No, she'd look very distant. I have all of them. All of them. All of these big actors look different. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought, uh, for an Adam McKay movie, for an Adam McKay movie, it was so different than I'm used to for them. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Had humor, but different kind. Anyway, here's another story. Sure. I don't know why we're doing science today, but here we go. We had Bobby yesterday. Mouse study suggests a surprising link between nose picking and Alzheimer's.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, Brian, you're screwed. So mice, quit picking your nose. Get your finger out of there. What did Ralphie say? Ralphie Wiggum once said famously, my doctor said that I'd stop getting nosebleeds if I could just get my finger out of there. That's the truth. Anyway, new study has revealed a tenuous but plausible link between picking your
Starting point is 00:40:52 nose and increasing the risk of developing dementia. In cases where picking your nose damages internal tissues, critical species, bacteria have a clearer path to the brain, which responds to their presence in ways that resemble signs of Alzheimer's disease. There are tons of caveats here, so don't get too freaked out, but not the least so far is that supporting research is based on mice rather than humans, but the findings are definitely worth further investigation and could improve our understanding of how Alzheimer's gets started, which remains something of a mystery.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Team of researchers led by scientists from Griffith University in Australia ran tests with bacteria called chlamydia pneumonia pneumonia. Nomeonei. Nomeone. Sounds wrong. What do you got? Oh, I got a bad case of the pneumonia. Nemeonia.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Boogie flu. It says, I got the rocking pneumonia. This thing will give you pneumonia, actually. The bacteria has also been discovered in the majority of human brains affected by late-onset dementia. So, it's entirely possible that the trigger, the early triggers are this particular bacteria getting all up in there. And you're helping it by going, jamming your finger up there. By poking, destroying that protective tissue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, the, listen, I stopped doing that as a kid because my mom said, if you keep picking your nose, it'll stay that way. Yeah. I didn't understand it then, but I understand it now. Yeah. And I have the occasional itch. I don't think that's what they're talking about. It was a scratch. It's people that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's people that are like up there digging, you know? Don't be digging. Go get a Kleenex like Brian is doing right now. Look, example. See? What did that even cost you? Mutting the mic right now. Also, it's going to sound like I'm forcing Campbell's soup through a pastry.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's like $1.50. This box here. I got it at Costco at Kirkland because we had to buy 12 of them in a thing. Oh, look at that. Yeah. These are fine. I hear there's a ravioli in the bottom of that box, too. Kirkland Ravioli, a sample.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah. And I can use it as toilet paper, so. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Sure. A woman. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I love stories about woman. She's great. She's my favorite character in this show. Woman is pretty great. In this case, it's her kids that are, it's your kids' woman. It's a kid's body. It's a kid's woman. A woman's kids destroy her boyfriend's house and pour cement down the toilet, according to
Starting point is 00:43:19 Tennessee police. That's a gnarly thing to do to somebody putting cement down there. Holy cow, that is like hard. Hardcore. It is hardcore. Your core will never be so hard, man. That's right. Women's children destroyed her boyfriend's house after pouring cement down the toilet,
Starting point is 00:43:35 nailing a door to the roof and ripping electrical wires out of the wall. That's a weird one. This caused over $200,000 in damage, according to the arrest affidavit in Tennessee. Police responded to the Nashville home on June 26th. This has been a bit, but it's all coming to court now. After the man had returned to the property and found it in complete disarray, the man who was renting the home had left about two months prior after having a dispute with his girlfriend and her two sons.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Girlfriend was later arrested and went to jail, leaving her two sons, one of whom is 19, in the home alone. On the 23rd, the sons called their mother in jail and told her that an eviction notice had been delivered to the house. She told them she would have destroyed the house before she went away. And her 19-year-old son replied, you're giving this idea right now. I swear.
Starting point is 00:44:22 This is what happens when you feed them after midnight. Uh-huh. A bunch of mugwis. You get them wet, you get them wet, and you feed them after midnight, and they start pouring cement down the toilet. It says three days later her children called her again, bragging about what they'd done to the house. They talked about dumping the pots into the driveway,
Starting point is 00:44:37 destroying the bed frame and appliances, removing walls, ripping out light fixtures, and pouring concrete down the toilet and flushing it until the handle broke. Jeez. Oh, geez. rude mean not nice it's worst kids ever i know i mean how it's not he was renting the house too that's the other thing right right this is somebody else's this story doesn't even cover who owns the place and who's like going to find out as a imagine being so my brother owns two other houses that he you know rents
Starting point is 00:45:10 and rents out right yeah not that uncommon especially he does them his full rents not like Airbnb's or You know, full rentals, although I keep telling him he should try that. He wants to Airbnb his basement. Oh, sure. And that's fine, but he doesn't have a separate entrance or exit to that. And I just think that's weird. It is weird, because then you're like, then you're basically saying, here, have full run of the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I'm sleeping. Plus, they're just, you know, they're two short little Korean people running around making kimchi all day in there. It's just weird. I don't know. It's fine, I guess. But we'll see if he ends up doing it. Um, anyway, uh, my, my point was, oh, yeah, that guy, whoever that is got really screwed and I feel bad for them.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, no, the owner. Yeah, it's not their fault. I hope these kids, uh, the 19 year old should go to jail. I love nailing a door to the roof. Like, they're just like, what do we do? Oh, how about we, how do we take this door off the hinges, take it up on the roof and nail it up there? Like, such a, such a lot of work for like, pull the door off the, it sounds like a YouTube, um, um, oh, God. prank. The whole thing does, even though they'd like, subscribe, watch what we do to this house. All right, well, that'll do it for the news. When we come back,
Starting point is 00:46:23 Tom Merritt's going to be here. He'll join us, as he does on every Wednesday. We'll talk a little bit about tech. He's going to nail some tech to the roof of our house. Yeah, to our foreheads. That'll be great. I'm looking forward to that. That's right. Anyway, that's coming up after this song. Did you bring one? What do you got here?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Oh, I did. I did. Hey, big thanks to Earshot Media for this one. I think we may have played these guys before it's a philadelphia band called soraya s o r a ia they have a brand new ten song lp called bloom it's really really good i had a hard time choosing which song i was going to play but i did settle on i seek fire this is uh this is a song that's actually doing really well for them it's uh it's it's it's running up the billboard chart as the uh as they say out there uh and uh you know don't listen to me listen to joan jet who says sorri is an extraordinary, exciting, and sure to make Waves band,
Starting point is 00:47:15 who I love and admire. All right, Cherry Bomb, let's get to it. Here's the song I Seek Fire from the band Soraya. A thousand paper cuts. I sting down the world. Feeling and fighting. I stand there. To describe it
Starting point is 00:47:44 Too tough to fight it Know what I want And all I want is you I've been so lonely Since you've been known Obsess, with the stages I lead you on You play the call
Starting point is 00:48:00 No what I want and all I want is you Say pierce my heart right through I want to die in love We can live forever I've faded fast this drug Leaving me restless and wired Just one more try for love
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's too late for forever New moon is rising enough it's time So come show me I seek brighter I seek priceless I seek pride Oh
Starting point is 00:48:51 Five-pinger talents Freeming in their nights Creeping and selling dirty copies in the night Try to behave Hubbers my grave I want you more than my eyes ever let on Confused in secret
Starting point is 00:49:16 acting so crazy His shattered kiss would be the one good thing to save me Way My mind's been torn into saying My bleeding heart beat's true I want a night
Starting point is 00:49:39 We can live forever And I'm fading past this drug Leaving me restless and wired Just one more track for love Too late for never New moon is rising up in town So come show me I seek fire I see fire
Starting point is 00:50:13 I see fire I want to die in love We can live forever I'm fading fast on drugs Leaving me to restless and quiet Just one more tries for love It's not too late No moon is rising up
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm alive So come show me I seek fire Oh, you think you're going to get away now. When I catch your ass, I'm going to kick your ass. Annoy the rainbow. Taste the rainbow. The morning stream. You're dead, McNabb. You're even deader than I am. We have returned. Who was that again? Yes, that was the band Soraya, S-O-R-A-A-A, and a song from their brand new album, Bloom.
Starting point is 00:52:06 That song is called I-C-C-E. fire and if you like that you will love the rest of the album it's all that good sounds good yesterday's was awesome too the mid show one oh yeah yeah yeah the uh there's a short one right the spray yeah by uh Nate no face it was it was it was rocking is what it was yes it was very good all right you know what time it is everybody it's this time with the computer as with any tool the concept and direction must come from the man that man is Tom merit also recently recovered from COVID he finally caught the thing the damn thing.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It finally caught me. Oh, I see. You were on the run for a good two and a half years, man. Yeah. Boom. Run, Scott. Run. I'm trying to feel so alone.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I feel so alone right now, I swear. Well, anyway, I'm glad you're well. And I think we talked about this briefly last week, but it's always good to make, you know, know, your friends are on the mend. Yeah, yeah. No, I tested negative on Sunday, so. Nice. I still have a little bit of a lingering thing in the chest.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I think I caught a cold. Oh. Yeah, that's what happened to me when I had it last month, or two months ago now, is that it just evolved into like a cold that seemed to last forever after I tested negative for a while. I test negative every day, but that's my attitude, not my COVID status. It's just the way you are. That's the way I am. Oh, you're testing negative.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yep, there you go. That's what my wife always says. Anyway, Tom, it's great to have you here. As usual, we do this thing on Wednesdays where Tom brings some tech news to the table and tells us what's going on out there. What is happening? and please let it be anything but Elon Musk and Twitter. It is. It is not Elon Musk and Twitter.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Plenty of that on Daily Tech News show, should you need to keep up. And we try to keep it even-handed and just tell you the things you need to know, not dive down rabbit holes with it. But have you talked about the details on the PSVR 2? No, well, other than the initial stuff that we've heard so far, but nothing, not this new stuff. And I know some new deets landed. Yeah, yeah. So a pre-order date, November 15th, $549.99 in the U.S., 600 euros, 530 pounds, which I think says more about the pound than it does about anything else. And 74,980 yen, if you want to get it in Japan.
Starting point is 00:54:24 The shipping date is February 22nd. So you can pre-order it November 15th, but you're not going to get it in time for Christmas. and the charging station for the sense controllers is going to be sold separately, 50 bucks or 50 euros or 40 pounds. So you'll be able to charge the sense controllers with a wire, but if you want the dock, if you want the station to make it easier to control them, you're going to have to buy that separate. Otherwise, it's all the same stuff we already knew.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oled screen, 110 degree field of view, 4K HDR, 120 hertz, all that stuff. And if people didn't realize this, not. compatible with PSVR-1 games. Right. So they've announced just about 11 new games today. I think there's a couple dozen out there announced for the PSVR2. I think the one everybody's talking about the most is Horizon Call of the Mountain. But you're going to have games to play on it, but you won't be able to play your old ones if you have a PSVR one.
Starting point is 00:55:24 That's a bummer. And I realize there's tech here that's making that part hard, like the foveated rendering and stuff, is just not with those old games support. And they could, I suppose, in retrospect, but are they going to, or at least in the number they need? So I'm bummed about that just from a, like, Sony doesn't need any help pushing the idea
Starting point is 00:55:41 that they're terrible at backwards compatibility. They just are... Maybe they're just leaning into it at this moment. Yeah, they kind of are... Nobody expects us to be backwards compatible. But also, this thing is more expensive than an actual PS5, which surprises me. I thought it'd be less.
Starting point is 00:55:55 But, I don't know. Seems like the specs... The specs probably justify it. given what's in that thing? I don't know. I am curious. People seem to be fairly positive about it, relatively speaking. It's got a single cable, unlike the PSVR 1, which I believe had 1,200 cables.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Is that right, Brian? Yeah, they're still sitting over there with the rest of the PSVR 1. Yeah, they sort of get a life of their own. I certainly didn't get my money's worth out of that thing. I do think that they will sell plenty of these to, people who have PlayStation's who are like, well, I want to have something that works with the console I got, but it is not competitive with the Quest 2. It's arguably competitive with the Quest Pro, but those are kind of different things. The Quest Pro is really more of an enterprise level
Starting point is 00:56:47 situation. So, yeah, I don't think it's a bad move by Sony because they will sell them to their audience, but it's not a good move for VR, if that makes sense. This is a advancing the VR playground much. I agree. Plus, that other stuff, including the new pro from meta and their previous models,
Starting point is 00:57:07 they all work as tethered headsets to PCs as well, even wireless and beta form. And I think that that added functionality makes those much more worth their $3.99 or even their $1,500 for the pro model. I feel like this is less value, you're getting less value because, A, it's kind of expensive anyway,
Starting point is 00:57:29 way. But B, it's tethered to a device that it will only ever work with and there's no backwards compatibility. Like, it's a big ask, I think. That's the tough part of the whole thing. Yeah. And so I, it isn't improved quality of play over the quest. For sure. I don't know that it's enough. It may not be enough. To bring somebody over who didn't already live in that world. Yeah, because to bring you over, you're going to have to spend $1,500 or so to get a piece five this games and so on, whereas you could, that would just be a meta pro at that point. which is a standalone device if you need it to be. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:01 There's a lot of questions about this. My biggest thing is the PS4 and PSVR 1 had a pretty good ratio of buy-in. It was better than most accessories for consoles that were used to. Usually accessories are terrible buy-ins, and they just end up with like a 5% of overall user base bought the dumb accessory or whatever. But in that case, they did really well. It was some 20% or some higher number, I forget, which was a really successful device. in that space. I don't know that they're going to get that again.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's still hard to get a PS5 in general. Like, I don't, I just don't know how this is, this is not going to be a one of one. And PS5 sales slowed last quarter. Yeah. According to their earnings report. So it's not even, you know, it's not even on the rise
Starting point is 00:58:46 in demand without including the VR. Yeah, but on the other hand, Microsoft has zero, zero Xbox plans for VR at the list at the moment. So you don't have a lot of competition there. this maybe gives them a leg up in that regard, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, that's why I think it'll do well in its space, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 There are people that this is for, and they will buy it. But it's not going to capture the world. And I don't know that Sony cares whether it does. I think Sony is looking at it as, well, VR isn't really there yet anyway. So let's make something that we can learn from that will satisfy a good portion of our most loyal audience. and, you know, and we'll move on from there when the time is right, which isn't necessarily a bad way to go. Yeah, it's also a demonstrably better piece of hardware
Starting point is 00:59:34 than what the PSVR1 was, and I don't know, the price feels right to me with those caveats. The only other thing I'd say, and I know you mentioned it, but it does come with that code for Call of the Mountain, Horizon Call of the Mountain, which apparently, like, these demo events has blown the socks off of people using it. That's what everybody's talking about. Is that a sequel to Horizon?
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's not a sequel. It's not a full game. It's more like a VR offshoot. It's like a, so you're not going to play it. And it's no relation to Rainbow's Man on the Silver Mountain. No, it's not bad at all. Oh, well, then I'm definitely out. Because that's what I was expecting based on the name.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But usually with those I kind of, I roll my eyes because I'm like, oh, an off shoot of a thing that's popular. That sounds lame. I want the real thing around. Yeah, but Miles Morales, the offshoot of the Spider-Man, Sony's Spider-Man game was great. Yeah, but that was a full game. that was like a game you know like a full full game was it was it full i mean it felt like it felt like it was about a quarter the the width of the spider-man game oh maybe i'd have to look it up it was probably less overall for sure but i would call it more than dLC certainly but less than
Starting point is 01:00:40 yeah yeah yeah it's more than dLC but when it comes to vr it's like you know you assume that they're caveats or that there's sacrifices you know to content or something and all word on the street is this is supposed to be a really good cool standalone experience. So I am kind of excited about that. Anyway, that'll be soon. February's when you can buy it. And we'll see. Didn't you end up in a Quest Pro to test in the studio there, didn't you, or something? I did. Yeah, I unboxed it here, took a look at it real quick, and then shipped it off to Sarah Lane. So she will be playing with it and reporting back more about it. She'll be living with it, as it were. She will. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what she will be.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah, that's what they call it over there. Awesome. Well, more about this and other stories later today on the Daily Tech News show. It's a Wednesday, so I get to be on. Very exciting. Tom, anything else happening in your world you'd like to find folks at home to know about? Yeah, absolutely. A word with Tom Merritt is going strong.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I've been having some great conversations with folks. One, Scott Johnson is on the docket coming in the next several weeks. But this week we have Josh Grisdale, who is, an IT guy in Japan and is talking about immigrate. So he moved from Canada, sorry,
Starting point is 01:02:02 to Japan, and we talk about his experience as somebody, he's not, he is not descended from people who are Japanese, but he is now Japanese because he immigrated to Japan. So we talked to him all about that this week on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Last week was Casscaw talking about the word scare. in honor of being Halloween week. Great conversation there. And we got more good stuff on the way. Mike Kinney, who played Coach Armstrong on DeGrasi, coming up to talk about Learn, because he's been doing a bunch of learn videos as well.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So go check it out. It's a word podcast.com. That sounds great. I can't wait to be on. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. Ace Detect on Twitter, if it's still Twitter for much longer. I don't know, whatever. I'm not wanting to do him say about it.
Starting point is 01:02:47 We'll talk about that too, probably. Tom, have a fantastic. We'll see you later. all right uh let's get uh let's get to this so now that now that Elon must said it's eight bucks a month to retain your right I know I'm still not doing it F off I'm not doing it there's no way not a way in hell the no I did I said I said you know if I have to pay to keep my blue checkmark I'm probably leaving Twitter and going somewhere else and I do I do kind of like what I'm seeing with counter social yeah there's lots of alternatives
Starting point is 01:03:18 popping up counter social is maybe my favorite of all of them but they yeah I don't even, even if I stay posting on Twitter, which I probably will do. I'm just, I'm not giving that dude money for a blue check mark. Like the point of a blue check mark isn't supposed to be status anyway. The blue check mark is supposed to be, you are who you say you are. That's it. That's all it was ever supposed to be. Now, people see it as a clout symbol or whatever, but they shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And that's partly on Twitter's, that's on Twitter for years, not making that more of a priority to make it like, this is how we identify you. because they made it cloudy but it doesn't need to be and it shouldn't be and it's stupid as shit and Musk is irritating the hell out of me anyway
Starting point is 01:03:57 yeah yeah let me move on here what do we have next oh we got the we got the recommendals yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we got Randy and Nicole in the wings today
Starting point is 01:04:10 we pull them both in here left wing and right wing that's right oh that maybe not maybe not well depends on your context now You never know where that'll go. Welcome to Recommendals, everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:24 We talk about streaming stuff right here on the show. Welcome back to the show. Let's start this week with Nicole. Hi, Nicole. Hi, that was weird music. What's with the spooky music? It was a spooky. Oh, it's the Discord ringtone.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Oh, the ringtone from Discord. That's Discord, not us. Oh, okay. Yeah, they're doing a Halloween event. So that's all that. Yeah, Halloween's over, guys. I was told Stown earlier this week. It's like, oh, I hope they keep that ringtone.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I like it so jaunty and spooky at the same time. They'll get rid of it like November 9th or something. It's sponty. It's sponty. Or jukey. Yeah, why not? Every year they do a new one, so maybe next year is leading to be better. That's my favorite sewing machine.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Is it? The chunky? The juky. Sure. Yeah, it's a brand of sewing machine. It really is. Oh, hilarious. Oh, weird.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Didn't expect that to be true. Also with us there waiting in the wings, we've got Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy. Good morning, morning stream. Happy November to you. You know what that means? That means I'm taking down my not Christmas tree and putting up the Christmas tree. I'm very very excited about this. The not Christmas tree has served its purpose. It's done a really good job all year. But time for the big one. Time for the big one. We did that yesterday. Kim put up the tree, started decorating crap. The house is starting to look like the holidays. I don't know. People think that's weird, but I don't think it's weird. I think it's right on time. time. I don't think it's weird at all. I'm not playing the music yet. That's going to wait a little while.
Starting point is 01:05:52 It's not weird for you. Fair point. All right. Well, we're going to do these recommendals. And we always, as tradition states, start with Brian, a bit here with his clip. Brian, you want to set this up at all? I'm going to set this up and tell you that this is a film that really snucked under the radar for me. but once it becomes a little bit easier for everybody to watch, I think it's going to be highly regarded. And I think, to be honest, it made me laugh as much as any movie since what we do in the shadows. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:28 This clip might not be as funny as it's hard to find funny clips that aren't visually funny. But, yeah, I think you'll enjoy this. I'm excited. Here we go. I check the front entrance. There's a key deadlock. and there's a sliding bolt and no footprints and no force entry.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Nice job, Chris. Take five. What's your girlfriend's name? Andy. Angela. Write that down, Chris. It's Angela DeGrasi. You killed her, too.
Starting point is 01:06:55 May I remind you that I reported this murder and waited for you all to arrive? You've been drinking long? Oh, geez. I had my first beer when I was 12. Here go, Chris. I'm not your waitress. No, I understand that, but I thought
Starting point is 01:07:10 Maybe you'd like my fingerprints. See? Cooperating. Hey, um, guy, sorry, I don't know your name. Evidence? Do you need a blanket? You know, Chris? Why don't you ask Mr. Fletcher some questions?
Starting point is 01:07:25 You're going to have the trainee interrogate me. Go ahead, Chris. Go ahead, Chris. Okay. Um, Mr. Fletcher, did you know the victim, Laurel Goodwin? Mm-mm. We never offer up the victim. him's a name. It's Gris' turn. Never met her. At least not while she was alive.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Is it me? There's John Hamm and John, John Cena had the same voice. Do they have the same voice? Cina and Ham. They sound the same to me. John Cena and John Ham. Now that you say that, yeah, there's a very, there's a great. Because right at the beginning, I'm like, oh, that's John Sina. What would this be? And then I'm like, well, movie wise. And then I'm like, oh, no, that's John Ham and that's that Fletch thing. So tell us about it. It's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's confess Fletch, which is finally a third Fletch movie after Fletch and Fletch lives, where we've got a brand new actor, John Hamm, playing Fletch. This is based on the 1976 novel.
Starting point is 01:08:21 But this movie is directed by Greg Matola, who did Super Bad, Adventureland, the day trippers. I thought it was Peacemaker. Oh, you thought this was peacemaker. Because he thought it was John. That's so funny. Because I don't know if I was,
Starting point is 01:08:38 I was on the show when I watched Peacemaker. Did I recommend Peacemaker? One of us did. One of us definitely recommended Peace. You did? It was so good. Sorry. I thought that.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I thought so. I was like, oh, I know what it is? No, I know. That's funny. Yeah, no, it's, but look at that. Another, another John Cena person who hears that voice. Anyway, this is, this is really funny. And I am, you know, we knew John Hamm had some comedy chops from his time on 30 Rock, from his time
Starting point is 01:09:07 on Kirby Enthusiasm, maybe less so from his progressive commercials. But, I mean, the dude is funny. Oh, yes, Sardant Live commercial where he sells John Hamm, which is Ham rolled up on a roll like toilet paper. Oh, that's awesome. He was really good in the, oh, that's the one that the, the movie, the one where he's the, there's two angel, one's the devil, the other's the angel. Good omens.
Starting point is 01:09:35 He played the Gabriel. he's fantastic in good omens really good he's great and uh he he rejoins his madman co-star john slattery from cooper sterling cooper draper price um who's also in this as a uh an editor for a newspaper uh and i heard i heard roy wood junior is in here as well yep oh he's there's a bonus you can't mistake for anyone else he's he's that uh that uh investigated it uh is helping to interrogate um Fletch. You also get Robert Picardo and Marcia Gaye Hardin, both donning really weird accents to kind of play Europeans, but pulling it off, I think, really well. This is, this had us
Starting point is 01:10:20 laughing like the whole way through. It's really good. And it's, uh, John Hamm is, is kind of the master at this seemingly, like always free a few steps ahead, but giving off the appearance that he's kind of bumbling. And I think he, I hate to say it, I think he does it better than Chevy Chase did. Chevy Chase always felt like he was, um, smarmoly laughing at everybody around him inside. John Hamm, you know, is sympathetic, feels like he's sympathetic to those, to the, to the inspector and to the trainee and to the, also, yeah, it needs to be a little like Leslie Nielsen in a Naked Gun, right? Like the, the sort of unaware aspect. Yes, exactly. He needs to pull that off, but also, you know, you find out. Oh, yeah, he's always two or three steps ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Kyle McLaughlin's got a great role as this art dealer, this germaphobe art dealer. This is fantastic. Currently just streaming on Showtime right now. So if you're doing the Showtime thing because you're watching Kevin Can F himself, which you should be watching Kevin Can F himself,
Starting point is 01:11:27 then you can watch this. But I'm sure before too long it'll probably come to Paramount Plus because it is a Paramount Pictures film that got released a little over a month and a half ago. I have an unreasonable irritation with movie titles that have commas in them. But I'm going to let this one go because it's literally the book name, right? It is literally the book name. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:51 It's fine. Yeah. So Girl Interrupted really rubbed you the wrong way. It does. It drives me crazy. I don't like when commas are in there. To me, it's a sentence that's like half there. It's not really a title.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I don't know why. What if it's required by grammar? so like the movie title three billboards outside ebbing comma Missouri oh yeah there you go that's a good one you know what that's a good case coward robert ford that one they i think had like uh semicolins and commas and did it monsters ink monsters ink has a comma in it uh let's see is that true no way the assassination of jesse jackson sorry jacson the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford has no punctuation in it oh really it probably should but it doesn't honey i shrunk the kids Good Morning Vietnam.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I think who's talking to. We're proving actually commas make the best movies. Wait, look who's talking to doesn't have it. It doesn't? No, because that would be, what, where would the comma be? Look who's talking? Comma, too, T.O. Oh, do they?
Starting point is 01:12:53 Now I'm going to be annoyed. It doesn't have one, but it should. It should who's talking, too. That's this 80s film guy in my head that won't let this happen. But you know what? We'll allow it because it sounds great. I do want to see this. I really like John Hamm a lot and everyone else.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Captain Kipper put a link movies with commas in the title. Yeah, three billboards. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Scott. Not a fan of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, are you? I like that movie, a lot. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles has a comma and an ampersand. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Locked stock and two smoking barrels. Ah, damn it. You found movies I like. I Tanya. No, this is bad. Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Ooh, I did like I Tanya a lot. That was really good.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah. The thief, the wife, and the canoe? I want to make Scott's case, though. The movie title, Good Morning Vietnam, does not need a comma in the title. It doesn't need good morning Vietnam. It doesn't need like that, right? It could just be, good morning, Vietnam. Like that.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Dude, where's my car? Is it? I had a question mark in that title. And a question mark. A comma and a question mark. I feel like it's almost too good for them because they should be bad at grammar. The comm actually elevates the material. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:14:03 You know, recommendal 17 things. Let me see where they're streaming. Well, speaking of recommendals. Anyway, so Confess Fletch currently on Showtime, absolutely worth seeing. And, you know, I'm saying I want more John Hemp Fletch movies because this was hilarious. There's a whole series of novels, right?
Starting point is 01:14:22 They could keep going. There is. Oh, yeah. Tons. Okay, awesome. That's what I've been really curious about. What do you think about Roy Wood Jr. for next host of The Daily Show? oh was he doing that is that happening right they're looking at him right or there's already he's on he's on the short list that's been uh blind dropped over and over i would
Starting point is 01:14:40 uh the number one everybody's saying is samantha b which makes sense yeah but she's got her own thing is perfect for that sort of thing so i really like him a lot yeah okay that's great news actually to hear that i uh i'm hoping for the the dark horse um oh crap i've just lost his name uh the guy who had his own show after the daily show for a couple of years. And his podcast is called Black on the Air. Larry Wilmore. Oh, Wilmore. I love it.
Starting point is 01:15:12 There's no way. But Larry Wilmore would be so amazing. He's great. Love that guy. He might be too far past it. But yeah. All right. Let's get to Nicole's recommendation this week.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Nicole, I see you, I've got to see, this is a YouTube link. I've got this all queued up. Do you have anything you want to say about that? this before I hit play it's a documentary it came out in 2019 I missed it um I follow this the woman that made the documentary I've even rode on a plane with her wow that's cool all right you go did you guys talk about the documentary when you're on the plane no this was early early in her career okay so she snored and drooled on you from the windows she was in first class I was waiting to go standby she was standing
Starting point is 01:16:01 to me, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's who I think it is. Oh, that's rad. Okay. And then she slinked off to fancy place on the plane. Her child was very small at the time. So she was, fair enough. I didn't want to, I didn't want to bug her. Sure. All right, well, here's the, here's the deal. Why is it not making sound? Remember the kids books in the 50s, see Dick, see Jane. And I just felt like, you know, we see Dick all the time. I just wanted to see more Jane. Media has the power to educate, to shape people's thoughts. It also has an incredible power when you get to see someone who's like you on screen. Women's creative input is not making it into our nation's storytelling.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Most of television and most of the film is men making stuff for other men. We give them so few opportunities to feel inspired by the female characters. I've been one of those little girls looking for myself. Interesting. So, was Gina Davis on the plane? Yes, Gina Davis was on my plane. Wow, cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:17:14 That changes everything. Yeah, it does. I agree. So tell me about this. This looks good. So I've been following Gina Davis for a very long time. She created the Gina Davis Institute on Gender and Media quite a long time ago. and this documentary looks at the data in a big picture kind of thing of how does how do women get
Starting point is 01:17:42 portrayed, how do women directors get work? And the documentary fans kind of a bunch of different topics. So like towards the middle to the end is kind of the legal battles that have happened to address directors winning these awards and then not working at all. And what's her name from Kickass? She was in Carrie, too. Chloe Moritz. She is in it.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And she talks about her, I mean, these are very famous, powerful women. And they're sharing their stories of frustration issues. issues within the industry. And so I like this documentary because it, you know, there's a lot of feelings to, to that. But it says, Gina Davis says, you know what? I'm going to come up and I'm going to, I'm going to look at the facts. We're going to look at all the movies in the last, you know, 50 years or whatever. And they did an interesting piece on it where they went so far back to silent films.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And women were just everywhere. It wasn't until the talkies started and banks got involved that the industry changed. So I just found it a really fascinating kind of deep dive into women in movies. And there's this thing called the CSI effect that I had no idea. And they call this when something gets portrayed by a woman and little girls, girls see this and want to do that. So Gina Davis is a, she's an archer. And so her coach was telling her about when brave and hunger games came out,
Starting point is 01:19:36 they saw a hundred and five percent increase in girls wanting to learn archery. And with the CSI effect is the forensic was a woman. And that industry is now full of women in forensics. So it's just, it's really interesting. And they kind of go back to kind of TV shows. And I was kind of going through my head. What were some of the TV shows that I really loved and I feel like they impacted me? Laverne and Shirley.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Have you listened to those lyrics of Laverne and Shirley the beginning of? it. We're going to do it our way. Yeah, they came up yesterday. Isn't that true? Like, did that have an effect of me? I don't know. Maybe it did. You know, and I was going to do my thing, right? So you just never know what's going to hit for a particular person. But I just, I thought it was an interesting documentary and I really enjoyed it. We should say the name. It's called This Changes Everything. Yes. It is from 2019. It's currently on Netflix and a few other There's another one, another documentary called This Changes Everything, but it's about climate change. Yeah, totally different movie.
Starting point is 01:20:59 The reason. This one doesn't have a comma. That one is going to have this comma, changes, comma, everything. But this one was interesting. I was like, why did they call it this changes everything? Because they talk about when these movies came out. So like when Thelma Louise came out, everybody was like, this changes everything. And it didn't.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And like, so you have these points in. in history where you think this is going to change it. No, it doesn't. It might move just a little bit. So it's just talking and trying to make us more aware with the content. Is this the documentary? Is this the documentary I saw a little clip from recently where Gina Davis is talking about Bill Murray being a jerk on set to women?
Starting point is 01:21:40 Is that the one? Because there's some like clip floating around her going. No, I don't. No, no, no. He yelled at her and like was like a total weenie and then she thought it was just her but then other women on set would get yelled at the next day and she'd get overlooked and she thought well maybe I'm maybe it isn't just me and then she asked him and says oh I'm glad you're not yelling at me today and she goes he said something like well today you were a good
Starting point is 01:22:01 girl or something like that it's like really bastardy shit to say yeah and and that's what this kind of dives into the secrecy of that industry and I have a question does this documentary because I haven't seen it yet I'm definitely going to watch it do they take any time at all to talk about what happened to Jennifer Lawrence? I don't think Jennifer Lawrence. That monster movie? Is that the one you're talking about? She just she just was the king of all hills in Hollywood one year.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Like she was in every, you know, she won an Oscar and had all these, all this work happening. And then her ability to make money plummeted. It didn't go to zero. But like she went from, you know, commanding anything she wanted. She could direct if she wanted to, anything she wanted to do, to going back to middle of the pack. And it's like, how did that happen?
Starting point is 01:22:57 You know, what, it's a very weird. Yeah, that was an odd thing. And that monster movie in particular, is it called Monster? Do I have that right? I don't know. That was the one with, uh, Mother. Oh, mother. That's it.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Mother. Yeah. Apparently that's, that thing just was, was horrible. A horrible experience. Yeah. I don't know the details. Reese Witherspoon is in it. a lot of a lot of famous actresses are in it um uh gling gling not glenclose uh mama mia shoot
Starting point is 01:23:28 oh is that glenclose no no i know who you mean merrill street so like big hollywood and what was happening they they they talk about the the guilds and how the guilds were restricting the women to even talk to one another like to form and to say you know I'm having problem. Like, it's like this weird, you're kind of siloed off to not share your experiences. So, I mean, again, 2019, maybe things have changed. I don't know. It just, it's a, it's a frustrating movie to watch, but I'm hopeful that things are moving in the right direction.
Starting point is 01:24:13 That sounds like I'm absent. I'm with Randy. I'm going to totally watch this. It looks great. Yeah. Fascinating. I like that kind of data, too, where they're like, let's actually dig up the last 100 years of film and let's see what is there. Like, that's way more interesting than just opinions.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I like the data. Yeah. Well, and all those little factoids that will show up throughout the documentary. Yeah. That's awesome. All right. Go watch. Randy, let's do you next.
Starting point is 01:24:41 You got a little something here. You have a set up. I don't follow a serious important subject with some frivolity. Awesome. It's all right. You're about to hear what goes down on a cruise ship that is having problems when the weird captain decides to address all the people who are stuck on the boat. Oh, interesting. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Ladies and gentlemen, I know this you have some questions, and I will answer them. Don't insult us. What? How was that insulting? We know what's going on. Yeah, we know. We hit a patch of choppy space. Mission Control said three years to get home.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I was in the room. She was in the room. You know what better if one of us speaks bake. Yeah, look, that, that is what I heard. Okay. We're all going to die in Spanish. I'm going to just get rid of that because it does look a little bit stark. This is Billy, our chief engineer.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I'm not going to pass over the explanation baton to Billy. Go ahead. Just on his own. Take it. Okay. So we were due to them. Uh, yeah. Um, so we were due to.
Starting point is 01:25:47 hold it further from your face you're popping there okay um so the plan was to use titan's gravity as an assist to say propellant english please which one of those words was not english sir propellant propellant just make it less uh technical it you know uh so um saturn is uh is a big big planet um with a big big moon titan and we were going to use titan's gravity as a propellant repellent again. If I didn't know what this was, I'd swear the dialogue was like ripped from a VP episode. They're so similar. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I need you all to watch this. And I'm recommending it right now because there's a second season finally. And it's coming out weekly on HBO Max. So you can watch the first season and catch up. This is Avenue 5. Avenue 5 is a spaceship in the future.
Starting point is 01:26:43 an absolutely crazy wealthy man played by Josh Gad perfectly played by Josh Gad is running a cruise ship and not running he's owning and
Starting point is 01:26:58 terribly possessing a cruise ship that things go wrong on in space and you very quickly find out that everybody that you think is running the ship is not that was Hugh Laurie as the captain of the ship Hugh Lorry
Starting point is 01:27:13 plays this this uh english actor who has been aping an american accent uh all the way until until this uh you know accident and then he just decides he's not going to do this anymore uh it's just it's a perfectly it's a perfectly cromulent first season for a what's basically you know just a dark comedy the second season though you know they uh this came out the first season came out right before covid started and so they just took two years off And it gave, like, writers and creators and even these actors a lot of time to really figure out how to just pack everything into this second season. It's, it's awesome. I don't believe there's a second season, by the way.
Starting point is 01:27:57 So I watched this when it first came out. I think it even recommended it. Yeah. I honestly did that think. Two years is such a long time, though. But I didn't think they would do a second season. Yeah. There are a few shows like that.
Starting point is 01:28:11 It's so long. yeah there's there's a few that are showing up now that came out like tail end of 2019 that i just assumed we're done i thought this is yeah are you uh randy are you into the second season yet at all does it yes that's what i'm saying i'm current on it i'm recommending it because uh now after i think five episodes into the second season it is it is so good i'm seeing articles where people are like get get in the pool this is a great show and we need to make sure that hbo makes more of them oh god i thought the first season was so funny. So I'm, I was really excited
Starting point is 01:28:44 to see, you know, when they announced the second season, it was like, oh, I thought this show was over and done. So, the orbit of poo. Oh, my God. So, so what, I guess what they really did to amp up the comedy in this second season
Starting point is 01:28:59 is they, uh, they started focusing on all of the characters. Like the, it was almost like the first season was just setting up these stories, you know? And you, I mean, you may not realize that until you start seeing the stories play out. It's just like, for example, back on Earth, in the second season, back on Earth, there is a crazy dramedy TV show where they're dramatizing what's happening out in space on
Starting point is 01:29:28 Avenue 5. And so the people on Avenue 5 are able to receive, they beam the TV show, they can watch it too. And they interact with each other in crazy ways because there are actors playing. them back on earth. Oh, great. Oh, awesome. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:46 All right. I'm in. I'll finally watch it. HBO Max. It's so good. Yeah, it's so worth watching. Hugh Laurie is just, like here in the second season.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Hugh Laurie is fantastic. There's a, like, Zach Woods is my favorite on this. And people know him from the office and from Veep and he's,
Starting point is 01:30:07 in Avenue 5, he's kind of a passenger lea. on only he's like the worst imaginable passenger liaison like he is trained to like help people be happy on their cruise and he can't escape his training or something it's really it's hard to describe some of these characters like Josh Gad Josh Gad is it's fantastic but like he's too dumb to live and you say like it's like how do they I don't know it's a the the whole show, everybody in the cast. I haven't mentioned any of the women. Lenora Critchlow is the only person who knows how to operate this thing. She's amazing.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Great. I'm in. Yeah. Sign me up. Please watch, Scott. I will. Now, you may be wondering, Scott's been watching a lot of horror movies almost nonstop for all of October. Maybe a little more than that. I even watched Barbarian twice.
Starting point is 01:31:05 How do you clean your vessel after that? Well, here's what I did. Over 100,000 have hauled out on one single beach. They do so out of desperation, not out of choice. All right. I've been watching nature documentaries. Yeah. Because, I don't know, that just seemed like the right answer to too many horror movies is to watch naturedocks.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Too many horror movies and too much just like regular horror in our regular lives. But I need to get right to the question, is this the one with the falling sea lions? Yeah, and that's the scene, actually. They're not, they're walruses, and it's rough because that entire scene is all about how, because the ice receding north, the places they used to congregate for mating and a certain part of the season where they just need rest and food and all this, they're forced now to be, to congregate on these tiny strips of land that aren't big enough. them and they're so crammed in and they're fighting all the time because they don't have room and they can't help it and then some of them to get out of there the best chance they have is to dive off of this cliff and tumble down over these huge rocks and they die by the hundreds because they just don't have a choice they just get shoved off there and there's
Starting point is 01:32:28 nowhere else to go um it's this particular documentary which is called and this cheered you up after barbarian well i mean it's not all this obviously but um it's called our planet it's a Netflix documentary. It's been a while for a while. This isn't brand new. But the reason this one is interesting is it has a focus on areas of natural life where climate change is having the worst impacts. Ice, you know, ice caps melting, you know, various changes in ecosystems around the world. This used to be more swampy. Now it's less. Or this is a dry area that's getting tropical or whatever. And what species or what creatures are being directly affected? affected. So that's the whole point of this particular series. Attenborough does, of course, a million documentaries about stuff. Everyone's seen Planet Earth and all the other cool stuff he's done. This is right up there with those in terms of its photography and it's insane vistas and I cannot believe they film this creature doing a certain thing kind of stuff. It's beautiful. It's in 4K. If you can watch it that way, I recommend it. It's just awesome. I really like it a lot.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And our planet, while it has that sting of like, man, we're really effing things up around here. So here's how we could fix it. It's still, you know, it's not a negative fest. It's also kind of a celebration of what natural life is doing out there. Like one thing I didn't know, I always assume, oh, the ice caps are melting. So that means all these problems and you can make a list of problems. But what I didn't realize is just under them are these weird little shrimp-looking creatures that are constantly feeding on the algae-created between the ice and the sun
Starting point is 01:34:08 and where the sun comes and hits a certain way and creates this algae so this whole ecosystem of those things lives underneath those caps so those go away they go away if they go away these fish that eat them go away
Starting point is 01:34:20 and the fish the birds that eat those fish go away like it's just this huge domino effect is gnarly anyway it's really good I recommend it our planet is the series it's on Netflix it's just so heartbreaking
Starting point is 01:34:32 like it came out three and a half years ago And I know this because every now and then someone brings it up on like Reddit. And my kid was a little too young. But there was a whole generation of kids that were in like high school and were shown this as it was coming out on Netflix. And then now they're older and they're online. And, you know, you bring up the falling walruses and they all cry. They're like, why did our teacher, you know, scar us for life with this thing? Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Yeah, no, it's it's crazy. And it's not, I don't find it preachy, if that's what anyone might be worried about here. Like, I understand that for some reason humans have turned climate change into a political football. And that sucks and we're dumb for doing it. But if you're worried about coming into this and just getting preached at, that isn't what this is. It's just laying it out saying here it is on in 4K beautiful widescreen video for you to see the impact. And also, we're going to teach you a few things about what lives here and what what breeds here and how that affects this. where these ecosystems are connected and how it freaking works.
Starting point is 01:35:37 That's why I think this one's important. So people should check it out. It is on Netflix. Anybody have a favorite David Attenborough that isn't a nature documentary? Oh my gosh. I don't know. I'm just like curious. Like have you ever seen him outside of that?
Starting point is 01:35:52 I don't think I've ever seen him do anything outside of that. I thought his brother Richard was the only one that acted. Did he do acting as well? Not exactly. But I mean like I've seen him like interviewed. on a TV show where, you know, he talked about something else, anything else. I like him as a cop on the edge in, uh, was he, was he cash in checks, his car couldn't cash or whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:17 That's exactly right. Yes, he's cashing checks that his, his description of nature couldn't cash. That sounds about right. That's description of nature. And we see the female breaking the law. That's right. Anyway, uh, there's your list. We will put these up on, uh,
Starting point is 01:36:34 QuickTMS.L.I. They're already there, man. They're already there. So you can go get those. If you didn't hear any of them, well. Get out of luck.com. That's what you got there. Sorry, Christine.
Starting point is 01:36:45 That'll do it for us. You guys got anything cool going on. You want to tell people about? I know we got film sack this weekend, Randy. We should probably mention that real quick. What are we watching? Do you remember? We're watching true lies, as you said, a half hour ago.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Yep. And it's going to be, it's going to be really, really great. I can't believe we've made it 13 years and we've not seen this yet. Yeah. Yeah, the truest of lies is that we never saw it. Now we're going to. see it, that'll be great. Nicole, do you got anything going on? Mark is going to release
Starting point is 01:37:08 a video on an Instagram tomorrow and it's our first true collaboration project. Ooh. Can I have a moment to interrogate something from Wood Whisperland? Do it. Sure. I like, I love
Starting point is 01:37:24 his TikTok videos, but... Oh, I hear a but coming. They always seem to start in the middle and end before the end. And I'm just curious, like, is that on purpose is that an intentional thing that's like supposed to lure you to some other channel no i don't know what they're doing we have somebody doing that for us yeah i was going to say you've talked about this before you've got like a service that does this right and they're pulling yes that i need to talk to them apparently
Starting point is 01:37:50 no i'm not i'm not complaining i think it's fantastic i just like i wanted just i wanted to know if that was something you were doing or someone else was choosing to do yeah also by the way you're for you have two other collaboration projects in the form of your children. So I just wanted to point that. This is true. I'm talking, this collaboration is woodworking and lasers. Oh, nice. Yeah. Wood and lasers right now. Oh, man. Wood and the wood and laser show should be an offshoot. Get this going. Make this happen. All right. Well done. It's always good to talk to you guys. Have a fantastic rest of your week. Bye. And I'll see you soon. Okay. They left on their own. They left on their own.
Starting point is 01:38:35 So, all right, I think we're good to go. I think, I was looking up David Attenborough. He's never done anything other than this. His brother was an actor, though. Yeah, yeah. So I think maybe he was mixing those two up. Well, I mean, I think Randy was talking for about, like, when he's a guest on somebody's interview show or something like that, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Yeah, I don't know. Hard to say. But no fiction. No, like, David Attenborough. No. He was the T-Rex. The road trip movie across the country. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Do that with his brother. They could do a Jurassic Park spinoff. Oh, there are you. Perfect. Yeah. The two Hammond brothers. Not Hammond brothers. The two, was his name on Jurassic Park?
Starting point is 01:39:15 He was Dr. Hammond, right. No, it was it Hammond? Yeah. It was Hammond. Yeah. The Hammond Brothers. The Hammond Brothers.
Starting point is 01:39:25 All right. Cheese. The new movie coming from the Attenborough brothers. Yep. Watch for it. Coming soon. Quick email to end things today. this is an email from Jeff Sire, our old pal Jeff.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Sure. I knew he would have thoughts on helmets. I just knew it. So he wrote in and says, Scooter and biker, just some perspective on helmets and laws from someone who rides. First off, if you talk about 100 bikers,
Starting point is 01:39:47 you will get 100 different opinions, and this is just one of mine. Or this one is just mine. Motorcycling is inherently more dangerous than driving a car. Check. That is true. So I can understand the argument that someone is forcing you to wear a helmet
Starting point is 01:40:01 for safety is the first step towards telling you that you can't ride at all because it's too dangerous. Okay, so I didn't even thought of that. Like, if you're a biker, this is the problem with gun owners, right? If somebody says, well, we just need to have logical gun things, their brain says, oh, you're going to keep doing that until
Starting point is 01:40:17 you chip it away until I can't have a gun at all. Yeah, but I mean, does people telling you that you need to wear a seatbelt is, do you consider that to be the first step towards people telling you you can't ride in a car at all because it's too dangerous? No. His sentence I don't agree with, but...
Starting point is 01:40:33 I agree with you that that's a weird thing, but I agree that that is the way people's brains go. I guess what I'm saying is I think they're inherently wrong, just like you do. And I don't think he's arguing for them either. He's just saying that's where some people's heads go. I totally get how people think. Yeah, especially gun owners.
Starting point is 01:40:50 They just, they think any foray into safety stuff. Is a slow path towards taking away your gun. Yeah, a slippery slope, which is annoying as hell. hell because that isn't what it is. But anyway, he says people who ride without a helmet make the tradeoff of safety versus individual liberty and I get and agree with that for you Americans. But in Canada we have a socialized healthcare system.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Socialized is not the communism for all the people who suddenly have steam jetting out of their ears. It just means collectively covering an expense. Like how y'all pay for the fire department and we all love our first responders, right. Good job, Jeff. You need to move down here and help some people. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I like his explanation of socialization. So he says, so in a socialized system, that means I'm paying for your health care, and that gives me the right to tell you to shut up and put a helmet on. We recently made religious exceptions up here in Ontario for Sikhs who can ride without helmets because of their turbines. However, they don't have to pay a premium on their insurance. I'm sorry, they have to pay a premium on their insurance. They don't have to pay a premium on their insurance.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Oh, that they should. I read that as don't or I read that as do because I think they should. Like if you're, if everyone else has to wear a helmet, you have a religious exemption for a turban, but that turban's not going to protect you in an accident. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:08 You should probably pay a premium. You think? There's your tradeoff. I don't think religion should get you out of that kind of shit. Get you a coupon for discounted, uh, no. No. I don't think that works at all.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Anyway, he says, uh, however they don't have to pay a premium on their insurance to ride without a helmet. So in my opinion, this is wrong and there should be. be an exemption. Religious or not. I agree. Or exception, rather. On the last note, I rode one time from South Dakota without a helmet from my hotel in Chamberlain to the restaurant a couple of
Starting point is 01:42:36 miles away. I felt super weird to me, or it felt super weird to me, and I've never done it again, and that was 2007. Thanks, Jeff. P.S. It was on this ride when I emailed Scott that I'd write out to Salt Lake City to watch a movie with him if he ever decided to do that nerd, that weird nerdtacular again, L.O.L. from Jeff's from. Interesting perspective. I mean, this dude's got like the big coast-to-coast, you know, cruiser bike and knows as much as anybody does about these kind of bikes. And I would trust his opinion above most when it comes to helmets and stuff. I'm not saying you should be forced to do anything. I'm a big believer and don't force people to do stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Sure. But I think if you're going to be a dip shit, there are consequences to be in a dip shit. Yeah, but then do you say, well, if you're going to be a dipshit, we're not going to pay for your health care when you get in an accident. 100% I would say that. I wouldn't say I'm not going to pay for your health care. What I would say is you're going to pay a premium for the right to do this thing that the rest of us aren't doing. Because we were talking about that came up during this pandemic that we're still in that people want to say is over. But where, you know, we said, all right, if you refuse to get the vaccine, then you shouldn't get the advantages. You shouldn't get the priorities of the health care, you know, that people who did get the vaccine.
Starting point is 01:43:56 you're still suffering from COVID. Right, right. If you're making it harder for everybody else because you just have some personal reason. Like, I just, I don't know. Like, if the science has one thing to say and you want to say a different thing, it's your right to say it, but you don't get, you're not first in line. And now that you, now we made that comparison, I'm with you then on the, on the, yeah, you should pay a premium if you refuse to follow the, you know, the guidance that will prevent
Starting point is 01:44:22 you having to require us to pay for your health care. Yeah, especially for religious stuff. Freaking F that. I'm sick of that. It's garbage. Religious exemptions can eat a toe. Hey, look at this. I'm sitting here with my pants.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Are you going to show me a toe to you? No, but this is weirder. I've got these pants on. I haven't worn before. And they're nice. I like them. Kim got them for me. These is just like kind of orange, almost colored slacks.
Starting point is 01:44:46 I like them. But I'm pulling at a string, I think, of the thing. And I pull it out. Brian, there's an entire length of floss. It's in my pants. It's a floss in my pants. why I don't know that's bizarre scat
Starting point is 01:45:00 it was way up there I go to pull just the and I could feel it all the way up my calf all the way out butt floss basically is what you're wearing I don't know I don't like this at all I'm gonna talk to Kim where'd she get these pants maybe maybe she was flossing while she was washing them and folding them
Starting point is 01:45:19 and maybe have they even been through the wash yet yeah well I think she pre washes everything she ever buys so I think so okay but I'll ask. That could have happened in there, right? The wash could have gotten a little piece of floss from a sock that grabbed it on the way to the hamper or whatever. And I got floss pants. Floss pants. Panty floss. Anyway, thanks, Jeff, for your email. If you'd like to send us emails you can, the morning stream at gmail.com or keep those texts flowing 801-471062. We are out of here. Big thanks to everybody for joining our Patreon. If you haven't joined it yet, now's the time. Patreon.com slash TMS is the place. You'll never get an ad. You get pre-show content every day. got these great couch parties we do on the Fridays. We're doing one this week.
Starting point is 01:46:00 I think we still have to pick what we're doing, but we're doing it. We do. We still have to pick it, but I'm sure we'll pick something fun. It'll be great. I'm sure. Art in the mail, of course. We got our play dates. And there's other monthly benefits that you can find all about over at patreon.
Starting point is 01:46:12 com slash TMS. And for everything else you're trying to do to contact us to be a part of the community or otherwise, you can find it at frogpants.com slash TMS. That's it. We got to get out, but we can't do it without a song. Hey, before the song, I was going to say, did major spoilers 1,000 go up yet? Oh, I don't know if it went up yet, but it did get recorded last night. And we had a great time.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Stephen was a gracious host, as always. And those guys have been added for a really long time. They did kind of like us. Like, you get to a certain number. Like, you know how everybody, when you get to 100, you lose your minds and have clip shows and go crazy? I mean, because most podcasts died before 100. It's just a fact. Yeah, it's an important landmark.
Starting point is 01:46:51 You hit it, and then you move on. well if you move on long enough let's say a thousand episodes what you end up doing is saying hey it's our thousandth episode but then you just make an episode right well that's what they did and it was great it was nice to be a part of it I really had a good time and if it's out oh they say it's out so go check it out of major spoilers. Yeah we had a ball
Starting point is 01:47:09 all right Brian sorry song no no that's all right I wanted to make sure that got a little plug all right Dean wrote in it is still as of yesterday and today it is still Die de los Mertos, Los Mueros. I can't say it without pulling that quick change clip right there. So it's appropriate to still play the song. Dean says, Just Scott and Brian, I was wondering if you could play a cover of this song from one of my favorite films. Thanks, Signed Dean.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Well, yes, the song is Remember Me from Coco, sung by Ernest de la Cruz. It's such a good song. I love it. It really is. It makes me want to watch this movie again because I forgot how much I loved it. And the one that came out that was similar to this at the same year was the Book of Life or the Book of Life. Yeah. I think that's it. The Book of Life. Yeah, also very good. Yep. This is a little shorty short song. It's only a minute long, but it's lovely. It's Christina Perry from her songs for Carmela Lullabies and Singalongs from 2019. It is Remember Me. Carmella. Love it. All right. Gobagoole. All right, we're going to do it right now. Enjoy this. We'll be back tomorrow for more. TMS.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Remember me, though I have to say goodbye, remember me, don't let it make you cry, for even if I'm far away, I hold you in my heart, I sing a secret song to you each night we are apart. Remember me Though I have to travel far Remember me Each time you hear a sad guitar Know that I'm with you The only way that I can be Until you're in my arms again
Starting point is 01:49:04 Remember me This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Dirk!

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