The Morning Stream - TMS 2373: Ulf Busdriversson
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Coming up on TMS, there's a door on the roof.
Floss Pan Studios.
Catch up the Gathering.
Mashed potatoes regret.
It's 4 million Afflex and 364 Bouchemies away.
It's your kids' woman.
Mythical metals of lore.
We still have tungsten.
Horny Doss days.
Cloudy with a chance of musk.
This comma changes everything.
Thanks for coming to my tater talk.
Knuckle deep Alzheimer's.
Nailing tech to our foreheads with Tom.
How to Clean Your Vessel Recommendals with Nicole and Randy and more.
on this episode of The Morning Stream.
The Social Register is a flutter
as Patricia Plunkett, who was acclaimed last season,
presents to Josephine Johnson the bouquet
that makes her the glamour deb of 1940.
Big G. Cereals presents
The Magic Secrets Video.
The Morning Stream.
Sometimes I can and sometimes I can.
And who gives a damn?
Greetings and hello and welcome to the morning stream for November 2nd, 2022.
I'm Scott Johnson.
That's Brian Nibbitt.
Hello, and happy hump day.
Happy middle of the week.
We got a 222 going, folks.
Oh, we do, don't we?
At 11-22.
Yeah.
It's not as cool as like a 222.
Now, how are you going to feel about December 2nd, 12, 22, because it's a 1-2-2-2-2-2-2.
I mean, that's as close as we'll get until another pure number.
We don't get that until what, 20-23?
33.
March 3rd, 233?
Yeah, man.
That sucks.
That's a long time from now.
I want to celebrate more of these.
Anyway, welcome back to the show, everybody.
Hey, we got some show for you.
We got all kinds of things.
Recommend us later.
It's a fun.
You know, Wednesdays are fun, I think.
I like them.
Tom will be here.
We got all kinds of fun stuff lined up.
But before we go too far, I want to say this.
Carter left yesterday, right?
That was a thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Got there safely, all as well.
However, when she got to Reykjavik, apparently everybody there was a little grumpy.
Okay.
And I said, yeah, grumpy Icelanders at 7 a.m. in the morning.
Of course, for her, she was like already kind of jet lagged.
It's supposed to be nighttime for her.
Sure.
Sure. But she got there and they were just all a little bit grumpy. She doesn't quite know where to go. No one's there picking her up or anything. So she's got to figure her stuff out. Oh, wow. Okay. She has some directions and stuff. So she's doing that. She finds this bus. The bus is supposed to take her to a drop that she thinks is just right there by the place she's staying. So it's supposed to be a perfect little space. She gets on this bus. The bus is fine. They get to the thing and it's a drop, but it's like another four to six blocks away.
to where she's living
which is a long way to go
if you're dragging a giant bag
plus your carry-on bag
plus your other bag
so it's a lot
and it's early in the morning
and people are grumpy
and she's just not sure
what she's going to do
and this bus driver
says in his very thick
Icelandic accent
where are you going
and she explained
and he goes
oh yes the stop
doesn't go that far
but I will take you
and this guy just took her on the bus
I'll buy her lonesome
after he dumped everybody else off
and took her straight to the door.
It was the nicest thing.
Oh, that's so awesome.
I feel like I want to send that guy something nice,
and I don't even know who that is.
We're never going to hear from him again.
But, man, nice things go a long way.
And it came all the way back to here where, you know,
I've been a little worried about her.
She's on her own.
Of course.
You want those first interactions to be good ones
because they kind of set the foundation
for the rest of her trip there.
Exactly.
So thank you bus driver rando, dude,
for being nice.
And I hope all the people she meets today
because they're all arriving today.
I hope they're all very nice as well.
I mean, we've heard Icelanders.
His name is Ulf, Bus Driverson.
Yeah, Bus Driverson has three S's.
Right.
Long line of bus driversons over there, and they all drive the bus.
Many bus driversons.
Yeah.
Sounds like something we'd get at an IKEA.
Do you notice IKEA prices are up?
We've been there lately?
No, I haven't been there in a while.
I thought they would stay kind of inflation-proof.
Nobody is, I guess.
But that place was like, I don't know.
I just thought it would.
always be known for that. It's less expensive.
Yeah, like, cheap, exactly. Like, oh, you need a bookcase? How does $12 sound?
$12 sound good for a bookcase? Okay, there you know. Now it's a lot more for stuff,
and I don't, I don't like it, sir. No, I don't. Anyway, so thank you for.
It's those damn Democrats, God, they're putting all, making all the prices up.
You know, they want those presses to go up. Yeah, that's what they want. And then when they take
power again, we can blame it on them, just like everybody. It's the stupidest. You know what
it comes down to it's got nothing to do with government it's got everything to do with greedy corporate
bullshit and demand and exactly in greedy corporations yeah the supply and demand part i get if we all raise
our prices together yeah uh then we can all make more money and there won't be uh one person who's like
uh you know able to capitalize on that oh i love it let's let's do it yeah they're in cohoots you know
corporate cahoots we call it around here around these places right right well anyway welcome
to inflation time it's uh a good time to be alive
all right let's move on we got this right here this would be this would be fun uh we got a text from
a listener this is from uh oh they're anonymous i don't have their name okay regarding titanium
because you know this titanium thing keeps coming up so man you know i thought when cia when we were
when we were when we had see a song i thought we were done with titanium you thought that was going
to be the end all be all of titanium well i got bad news for you we got one at least one more
email about it um or text in this case he says regarding titanium not unlike you i grew up
believing titanium to be the near, indestructible super metal.
That is exactly what I thought growing up.
That's what I believed.
Yeah, that's so too.
Yeah.
So you can imagine my disappointment when I first had the opportunity to work with it
and found out it offered only slightly more resistance to my tools than your average
stainless steel.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Says most of it's just the, sorry, mostly it's just the loss of childlike wonder that has
lessened its status for me, like much of humanity.
I wish to craft with my mythical metals of lore, i.e. Orchallium. How do you say that? Orichalum?
Orichalum. Whatever that is. Mythreal, obviously. These are all mythical things. I don't know where that first one came from. Anyway. However, I have learned to appreciate what we have. Boring old steel, as we all must. Apologies for a long test. Have a great day.
So he didn't really get into why. I use works with metals, obviously. Or a calcum, as Hank de Crabbs says.
Or a calcum?
What's that?
Is that from like a Lord of the Rings thing or something?
What's that from?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know the source.
It'll let us know in a second.
I'm sure.
You know what it is?
It's the fact that the word begins with Titan.
Like it's the first five letters.
Titan.
Titanium.
Titanium.
Like it's,
you know,
it's supposed to sound like it's,
uh,
huge and big and indestructible and powerful.
But it's,
uh,
it is lighter though,
right?
That's the why why people get it in their bikes and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. So if anything, it's probably less sturdy. No. Okay. Here's what I was told, and you know what, this is still true. The reason titanium is cool and still cool is that it's only slightly tougher than steel. That's still better than steel, but also weighs a lot less than steel does and still retains the toughness. That still makes it a badass metal. Don't you think? Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I think it's a transition. According to Wikipedia, it's a transition metal with a silver color, low density and high strength, resistance.
corrosion in seawater, aqua, rigia, and chlorine.
So that's another advantage is that it's, uh, it's, it can't, it doesn't rest.
Oh, I see.
It's got some chlorine.
So it's like, it's like, it's like it's like, it's like it's like.
That's right.
Exactly.
But yeah, so like for, for, um, medical parts like, you know, uh, prostheses and, uh, dental implants
and things like that, it's, it's going to be lighter.
Um, um,
and more water resistant or more corrosion resistant than anything else.
Do you think platinum's still cool?
Like in your head,
do you think when people say platinum,
you're like, yeah, platinum, that's cool.
No, platinum's only good for record albums.
Yeah, it feels like, or fake money in a video game.
Oh, Olivia Rodrigo's gone platinum.
Yeah, but not titanium.
She probably did go platinum, right?
I'm sure she did.
That album's great and it deserved to go platinum.
She's a popular lady, you know, the trick part now.
stand behind that at that album yeah it's good the tricky part now she has to follow it up and that's hard
yes yes the the sophomore slump the uh the second album always tougher than the first yep and there
are cases where you get derided for your second effort and then later everybody discovers what an
amazing thing it is i'll give you an example it's like beastie boys paul's boutique man
paul's boutique is one of the greatest records hip-hop records ever made but when it came out
people are like eh this doesn't sound like licensed to ill at all this is not good where's my
fight for your right to party.
Yeah, that's what I want.
This isn't fun. This is much fun.
Yeah, that's lame. And it turned out to be so good.
And now everybody, I think most people agree.
It's one of their best things they ever did.
Yeah.
So, you know, Olivia Rodrigo, I know you're listening.
Just do you, baby. Do you do what you got to do.
Pinkerton was a Weasers, Pinkerton was a similar thing, right?
People weren't, that's about Pinkerton at first.
And I was like, oh, they haven't had anything good since Pinkerton.
That's their best album now.
That's true.
Are they, are they meaning multiple people?
over there at Beck? I assumed
it was just him. Is it more people than just
him? No, I didn't say Beck. I said Weezer, didn't
I? Oh, I thought you said Beck. Sorry.
You probably did say Weezer. No, you probably
said Weezer. Okay. Yeah, my brain is
about half a lot today. But Beck's second album?
Probably a similar thing, right? Because Odle-Lay,
or no, what was the first? It was
overlay. Overlay.
Odley, right? Is it Odle-A?
I have no idea. No, fifth album was Odle-A. What was the first
one that had Luzer on it?
Um, uh, mellow gold.
Mellow gold.
Yeah.
Everyone thought that was going to be it.
And yeah, when he came out with, um, whatever his second album was, it was like, I don't know, that's not as good.
When did the devil's haircut happen?
Not his hit factory is, what's that?
When did the devil's haircut happen?
When was that?
That was Odley, I think it was devil's haircut.
I still really like that song, even though that was kind of a hip factory type song, but.
Yeah.
And new pollution and where it's at.
I got two turntables in the microphone.
Wicked wiki.
The other thing I like is how Pearl Jam seemed to have this moment of, like, two perfect albums,
and then they just made what they wanted to make for the rest of their careers.
And if you're a fan, you love all of it.
And if you weren't paying attention, it's because it wasn't on the radio anymore.
They didn't play those guys anymore.
All right.
So the first album was Verses?
Yeah, 10 was second, right?
10 was second.
Oh, yeah.
10 was great.
10 was huge.
10 put them on the map, I think, really.
Versus was good, too.
But 10 was, like, the big one with all the hits and stuff.
And it just felt like after that they were like,
I'm going to make the music I want to make.
And then they never played it on the radio.
I got it.
I flipped them.
Ten was first.
Oh.
Ten, then versus.
And then vitology.
Vitology.
Is that it?
Oh, some of the chaps in.
Yeah, the chaps.
I seem to recognize.
You've heard of here.
Buttered ham.
Bunting familiar years seem to blaze it.
When did they do Temple of the Dog?
That was in the middle of all that.
That's right.
Yeah.
Ah, the 90s.
It's a great time.
Yeah.
Anyway, metal.
Titanium's great.
And keep using it.
Yeah, keep on rocking, titanium.
You're lightweight and you're only slightly better than stainless steel durability.
Yeah, I haven't lost any love for you, titanium.
Keep on being who you are and be your best self.
All right.
Let's move on to some done-away goodness.
And that also means I've got to log in because I'm slow.
Oh, please log in.
and please find us a contestant.
I'm going to do that.
Before I do that, though, hold on.
Why won't this work?
This isn't working.
Okay, I'll play this.
It's time for some Tad Pooley feud,
and that means Brian Dunaway joins us from his domicile.
No, he's at work today probably,
this headphone thing.
Brian, what's going on?
How are you doing over there?
This headphone thing.
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Oh, hi.
Oh, hello.
How's it going?
You good?
Yeah, hello?
I'm good.
I'm good.
hear me?
Yeah, I can tell you.
So you're Chuckie Monday.
What is your attire for Dia de los Mertos?
Los Mertos.
Yeah, what are you doing?
I'm Brian.
Oh, is that it?
That's all you got?
Oh, you're like those teenagers.
You're like those teens who think they're funny.
They come to the door and you say, who are you?
And they just say, I'm just me.
Yeah, you're like that.
Just me.
I'm disaffected teenager.
You made a lie?
Okay, then I'm, uh,
I'm John Luke Picard.
Yeah, you're John Luke Pickard.
I like it.
Make it so, number two.
You don't speak English anyway.
Yeah.
Well, you really, that was an amazing impression of Patrick Stewart you just did.
That was incredible.
Oh, oh, thank you.
I've been working on it for five seconds.
Make it so number two.
That was good.
Wow.
Goal number two, get your, close up your crotch.
No one wants to see that.
No.
Look, I was watching the third season of Picard right here on this show.
I know.
It's amazing.
You can't see me.
What really sells it is me pulling.
back my hair like I'm bald on top yeah yeah I know and I believe wow I even believe it even more even
though I can't see you it's crazy uh all right let's find out who we got waiting on the line for us and
who's going to play today hi thanks for holding who's this it's raven ctg from the chat well hello
raven how are you excuse me I'm a little choked up oh don't be choked up oh it's okay
yeah I wish it was that kind of choked up instead you just got some kind of goo in your
in your throat right so what does the ctg stand for I've always wanted to
ask you this.
Chip Theory games.
Oh, there you go.
I thought it was maybe a collectible
trading cards.
Or no, collectible
trading game. Yeah, yeah.
CCG is a collectible card game.
Magic the gathering.
Command the game.
Gather all the catch-up you can.
Yeah. Well, it's good to be.
Our things are kind of expensive, but you could
collect them all. Well, that's cool. I'd be
happy to do it. All right, well, let's
get into this. We got a
contestant. We got another
Brian for me to fight against, and we're going to try to win some prizes.
Brian, explain these rules.
Right. It's time to play the tadpool if you.
I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics.
And Scott and Brian are you going to have to predict the answers that they gave us.
Boy, do we have a nerdy topic today.
It is Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess.
Now, Raven CTG, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
And if your team wins, you get a prize package.
That includes Kill Squad.
And rogue heroes, ruins of tasos.
Not ruins of tacos, but ruins of tasos.
It's Tasos Tuesday.
No, it's Wednesday.
Can't do that anymore.
That's right.
It's Tasos Wednesday, which is what you do after Taco Tuesday.
Those are both fine steam selections.
Nicely done.
Yes, both of those courtesy of our friend, Wesley.
Thank you, Wesley, for your contributions.
That was really good.
You should do all my Picard impressions.
I know.
Brian does a decent Picard.
I will put that out there.
I can only do four impressions.
All right.
Let's get to the tadpully feud.
Get your hands on your buzzers there.
And we asked 494 tadpullers.
We're on to the new survey stuff.
Finally, this is the first question in that.
We asked 494 tadpullers to give their best answer to this.
Name a DOS-based PC game.
Scott.
Doom.
Doom.
Show me.
Doom.
Number one answer with 60.
No brainer.
No briner.
I feel good about that.
Ted Buller is saying that one, yeah.
All right, well, that means that you automatically get control of the board.
And Raven, CTG gets control of you.
So two of you will be working together to see what you can do.
Well, that's so Raven, isn't it?
Hey, Raven, tell me, sorry, it's terrible.
In 90s kids, we'll love it, though.
Tell me, do you have anything that pops in?
I mean, I got an immediate follow-up to this.
brain goes to, but I don't want to assume. What do you think?
Descent?
What was the word? Or the game?
Descent. Descent. Oh, Descent. Oh, my gosh.
I'd love dissent. Classic. Yeah, let's choose dissent. Man, that game was
decent. You're my favorite. Descent was great.
Show me. Descent.
Oops. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I gave the strike.
There we go. It's a Scott strike, not a Brian's strike.
Descent was number. People did say descent. Where the heck is? Descent.
Uh, number 41, surprisingly.
I love that game, too, though.
I don't think, I think there's just, it's lost to it.
It's lost to a generation, I think.
It's unfortunate, because that game was so cool in today.
It was very rad.
Well, you won my heart.
I thought it was a good answer.
Yeah.
I did too.
Don't feel bad, Raven.
Brian, it's down to you then.
Do you got a, you got a thing here?
That's so Raven.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
On air light, what?
Oh, how about, uh, I'm going to go.
with some
Wolfenstein 3D, right
before the do.
Sure.
Your visits to the castle,
Castle Wolfenstein.
Sure.
Rippenstein?
And three dimensions
is the way it worked.
All right,
show me Wolfenstein 3D.
Number four.
Damn it.
Wurfenstein.
You really,
I know what you're not getting
today?
You guys aren't getting
this fantastic lag
that I'm getting,
and it's hilarious.
I'll say something.
Yeah, I love it.
This fan, freaking-tastic.
That's great.
Nicely done on your end, because that ain't ass.
Keep gone.
Oh, oh, oh, wow.
Can a victim blame?
No, listen.
I can hear everybody else is coming.
No, not a victim blamer.
Everybody else is hearing me right away except you, so I don't know what that means.
Something's weird.
Anyway, go ahead.
Continue.
Maybe I've already said something.
Maybe.
Maybe you're the one lagging.
Maybe.
I don't know.
How do I know?
I don't know.
going to go with one we played recently
the reason why I had to
get into my
Windows 3-1. I don't know if
it's on the list or not. I'm going with
the secret of Monkey Island.
Ah, Secret of Monkey Island.
Lucas Arts. Yeah.
Yeah, I had to get a, I had to do some
emulation to get that thing running.
Sure, yeah, absolutely.
On the DOS box.
Show me the secret of
Monkey Island.
Oh, that's a shame. That's a real shame.
You young and sorry.
Secret Monkey Island was number 33 in the list, surprisingly.
Well, our answer next should be Quake, because Quake was a huge, gigantic DOS game, and everybody played Quake.
Yeah.
Yep.
All right.
Sorry.
Get back to the screen.
I had my spreadsheet pulled up.
All right.
Show me quake.
Oh, what?
Are you kidding me?
Oh, I know.
I know.
Oh, this is rigged.
I think everybody who would have said Quake,
ended up just saying
But I said the other two
Yeah, that's what I was wondering
Hold the way down at number 36
Because I think like you said
If people are going to say,
Blake, they just wouldn't say.
That makes so no sense to me.
I don't understand.
I don't even know who I am anymore.
Who are?
What are we doing?
Who are we?
Man.
That makes this real life so much no sense to me too.
Yeah.
All right.
Dono way fix this problem.
What else was there?
Then I'm going to go with
all those horny doss days
of leisure suit Larry.
You had to really work for your, uh, to get your fix.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, what you mean.
Yeah, that's it.
All right.
Show me a leisure suit, Larry.
Are you kidding?
On the board.
This beat, this beat freaking quake.
Are you kidding?
Beat quake.
I'm blown away by that.
Suck it, quake.
I don't even believe it.
That's crazy.
I'm worried.
Right.
Okay.
Um, oh my gosh.
All right.
How about some, I know we're going to be doing this one soon.
I haven't mentioned it, Scott, yet.
And I'm really excited about getting, no, they wouldn't say, well, maybe, no.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
This is a fun journey through the mind of Brian Dunaway.
Yeah, it really was.
How about we go, how about we go with some Sierra games?
Most of the good ones were on Doss.
How about we, how about we go?
with the King's Quest that we talked about
and I'll play retro not a long ago.
Sure.
King's Quest.
I had to play in the DOS Box.
All right.
The DOS Box.
All right.
Show me King's Quest.
Pick up, pick up sword.
Gosh, dang it.
Number five.
You guys are,
you and Brian in the audience are in sync, man.
There we go.
I keep clicking on the wrong names to give points to.
I figure at least some of these people listen to the play retro show, right?
I mean, some.
Yeah.
Oh, is that your line of thinking?
You'll just keep going down that list?
Well, I'm just trying to think back
What I played recently on the DOS box is what I'm mostly trying to do
And just anything else is this is this gravy
Um, how about some uh
Oh my gosh
Yeah
How about the uh, the uh, oh
Yeah, yeah
Come on, Redneck Rampage.
I don't want to say it, but
It's really important to me.
I just recently played it.
I just recently played it.
I, but the chat rooms,
oh, they're just the,
Come on. Come on, Tadpool.
Up a brother out.
All right.
It's what happens when you run out of fire sauce.
Show me Redneck Rampage.
Come on.
That one's pretty small.
Like a losers.
Let's see.
That's way down on the list.
There it is.
Well, tied for 41st place because only one person said it.
Okay.
Raven, you got anything?
that pops.
Hey, do you have who said that?
Was it me?
Hey, shut out.
I don't know who said it.
I don't know names, sadly, because I'd love to throw shade on somebody who just goes
pass all the way through the survey.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, sorry.
Raven, what were you saying?
Sim City.
Oh, Sim City's good.
Sim City.
That's a good one.
Yep.
Good call.
All right.
Sin City.
Show me the City of Sim.
Number six.
All right.
Now Scott's making some headlight.
Now that tells me that civilization's probably on.
here. The original SIV was also a
DOS game and I would be shocked if that's not
on here. Although I was shocked,
Quake is still leaving me breathless
here. I can't believe that's not on there. But let's
do Siv, Civilization 1 or 2
or whatever. Show you out any
civilization. Show me civilization.
Oh my gosh.
I know. Number 24.
Number 24, unbelievably, yes.
Wow.
So, here's where we're at.
Brian needs
to run the board in order
for Raven to take home the prizes.
There are five answers.
Brian can't get any wrong or else the round will be over.
Yeah, and you got one strike, and that's it.
One strike, exactly.
I feel like we're at a real time.
Oh, am I at a winning right now?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, you're in the lead by 11 points.
So you need to win the...
Oh, so I had to run the board.
You have to run the board.
Holy hell.
Half of the answers that if you've hardly been able to predict are still up on the board.
so you guys can help me out Raven
so if you guys want to help out that's right
I was the next thing I was gonna say was
Brian can we help him
Ibitt
Oh sure yeah
I want I want I want
I want Raven to win these prizes so
Help them out
All right I was gonna
I was saying a stuff like Warcraft or fallout
That's what I was gonna say
You got a chat room full of Warcraft fans
And I also think
My so those were Windows 3
Those were Windows 3 1 games
they were just prior to 95.
So you're talking about DOS still
because Windows 3-1 was really just a shell on DOS.
So I think it counts,
but I don't know what Brian did here.
Yeah, I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't say that out of the most.
Far were you?
Well, how about some...
I think about games where you types of stuff.
I'm going to look in the chat room and go with Oregon Trail then
because that's going to like a safer bet.
Yeah, let's say that.
All right.
Show me Oregon Trail.
Number two.
What happens if you die from dysentery, number two?
Quick, quick recommendation of the Apple.
Other than Kings Quest, do you want to like a space quest?
Do you think that might be in there, too?
I see one that keeps coming up in the tadpole quite a bit that you probably should.
Zork or Mist, Ultima?
What do you guys think?
Zorke.
So, like, if I was like, I was maybe like doing some more text adventuring, like Zork maybe?
Yeah, that would be a good answer?
Do Zorke.
I don't say that.
Show me, Zork.
Number three.
That's where babies come from.
I love how we bend the rules of this game.
So much.
I love it.
My gosh.
Now,
I don't even know.
I have seen people type these other three in chat,
but it's been a little while
since I've seen somebody say it.
Not rigged at all,
they say in the chat, yeah.
I'll say that one.
It's only rigged to win.
It's not,
It's not a guarantee, and it's only rig to win.
It's not rig to lose, like, the house.
Yeah, exactly.
Think of it that way.
Exactly, yes.
This isn't, we're not trying to help the Bellagio get more money here.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I've seen people say missed a pretty good bit.
Yeah, don't see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, use the force.
I would say that.
I would say if you're looking at the tab pool, if you're looking at the tab pool, use the force.
Right.
I got you.
So that would be a Minesweeper then.
No.
Dark,
forces?
Oh, X-wing, do X-wing, X-wing, X-wing.
That's got it.
Don't say that one.
No, don't say that one.
No, don't see that.
Oh, really?
Dark forces, it's it.
You all were terrible Doss gamers back then.
Terrible Doss gamers.
Like, Jedi 71 says something.
Look at the Jedi in our tadpull.
Now we're just, now we're just flat out cheating.
Now we're just, we're just,
So scorched earth would be kind of a good one.
Oh, that's a really good one.
Let's try that one.
Let's try that one.
Show me scorched earth.
How is that on there?
Scorched Earth over quake.
What is up?
Wow, it is the last one, though.
I will give them that.
Texas is like, no cheating.
I know.
We are really, really, edge of this one.
Talley's old 2018 joke of OK Boomer.
None of us are boomer.
I thought about a heretic in fallout earlier, but you said those were non-starters.
Yeah, I wouldn't say those, man.
I mean, like, you know, just flat out, just giving him a prize to.
Duke Nukem says, says our guest, that's pretty good.
Oh, did Ravens say that?
She just did.
I think Duke is a good one.
I should totally think that Duke Nukem is like a great answer.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Show me Duke Nukem.
Nice.
Oh, very good.
All right.
Running the board seems possible now.
We're going to get it.
Yeah, possible.
Why don't you tell us the last answer, Ibit?
Just, you know, another
in software game, side screen.
Oh, yeah, well, that's, I was always thinking about a hex.
Commander Kane, Commander King, Commander King, that would be a good one.
If I was to guess one, yeah, Commander King was a SFC one.
All right, let's guess that.
Yeah.
Show me Commander Kean.
Oh, my gosh, what?
Congratulations.
You're a winner.
You're freaking dead it.
I can't believe.
Against all odds, truly.
We cleared the board.
Nicely done.
Hey, Brian, remind us what she won.
She won some cool gifts and prizes.
She won some cool games.
Yeah, exactly.
Listen, I'll help out when it's a really tough category like this.
When you guys blow five strikes before you've got five answers on the board.
Jesus.
Right.
It was rough.
Yeah, Raven, you're taking home Kill Squad and Rogue Heroes Ruins of Tasos on Steam.
So good luck.
Oh, Ruins of Tasos.
It just hit me what that is.
That is, speaking of Mist, it's in the vein of mist.
It's a puzzler thing.
You're this robot and there's no humans left.
And you've got to kind of puzzle your way through it.
It's awesome.
It's such a good game.
I'm glad you won it, Raven.
How do you feel about your big win?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, she's muted.
Sorry.
My thing muted her automatically and it was not supposed to do that.
Anyway, sorry.
Say what you're going to say.
Oh, I said I had a really rough week last week.
So this is really great.
Oh, well, I'm glad we could be here for you.
I'm glad that there was a tiny little nudge that we were able to provide in this game.
For a second, I thought she said I had some...
The hand of God.
I thought she said she had really bad meat last week, but she said she had a really bad week last week.
Yeah, really bad meat could lead to a really bad week.
I agree. Try to have good meat.
And thank you for playing with us.
You were awesome.
Send me to email, Raven, at Coverville at gmail.com, and I'll get your prizes.
Yep, he'll hook you up like a hooker-upper.
than Brian is.
Like a hooker upper?
Like a hooker upper.
It's the quicker hooker upper.
Anyway,
hey,
Donaway, you did a great job.
And here's another thing
you did a great job at.
Last night,
we put up a play retro
and it was all about
the good old days,
I think,
of like space invaders,
Blackie and Gallagher,
early shooters,
stuff that,
man,
without those,
I don't even know
where we're at
with the shooter genre.
Yeah.
So anyway,
go check that one out.
That was full of nostalgia.
I had tons of great stories
about my arcade days
with my dad and stuff.
because that's just right when it happened, man.
That was the heyday.
So go check it out.
That's Play Retro wherever you get your podcasts or at Play Retro over at Frogpants.com
slash Play Retro.
Hey, Denow, you got anything else you'd like to say?
Yeah, even more exciting is next week when we, uh, look here, brother.
We're going to do some wrestling.
Yeah.
Ressel games.
All the best.
We're going to do our top five wrestling games of the 8 and 16 bit era.
Wow.
How will you guys ever come up with five?
I know.
There's only a million.
Right.
There's only a million to choose from.
There's only a 40 to choose from.
Yeah, there's a lot.
But there are some standouts,
and we're going to talk about those.
And why wrestling is underappreciated in video game form.
It's plenty appreciated in the real-life, fake sport thing that it is, right?
The thing that it is now, great, nicely done, the spectacle.
But we have forgotten how good a good wrestling game can be.
And we'll talk more about that next week as well.
Brian Dunaway kiss our butts and we'll see you next time.
Cut him off where he could say anything.
me ma ma ma ma ma ma ma we'll talk to him more on uh saturday with some film sack that's right
what are we doing i forgot what we're doing true lies oh true lies that's right brian's going from
slowly remove your top dance for me slower
slower can you guess what my intro is going to be scud i have a feeling your intro wrote
itself in a weird way slowly take off your top
I don't know why.
He's Indian suddenly.
I don't know why.
I don't know why that is, but yeah.
Weird.
All right.
It's time for some news.
We got news.
Here's the news.
The news today is brought to you by.
Too much potato.
I had too much potato last night.
In what form was your potato?
Mashed potato.
Ah.
Was there gravy involved?
No.
No gravy, but chicken and beans.
Those were fine and, you know, good lean chicken.
some nice veggie beans, all that.
Oh, veggie beans even.
Well, beans, excuse me, beans that we got at the local farm over here.
And so they were fresh and good and healthy and all that, not frozen.
But then the mashed potatoes came.
And they were left over some the other day.
And Kim made them for everybody.
And, you know, my eyes are sometimes a little bigger than they need to be when it comes to mashed potatoes.
Yeah.
Well, let's just say I regret it.
I eat too many.
Yeah.
I would have a hard time as well.
Like it's, mashed potatoes are a weakness of mine, especially if there's gravy or just some good butter and pepper and salt on them.
Yeah.
You'd cream them up and put stuff in there that was never meant to be in a potato.
You know, when you mix those with shredded potatoes and make little patties and fry them up, you've got the delicious Irish treat boxy.
Yeah.
I didn't realize, I didn't know that's all there was to it.
I could make those.
is to it. Yeah, you just basically take
your leftover mashed potatoes,
mix them with shredded potatoes.
Yeah.
Form them into little patties, put them a little oil
and fry them up and you've got like a really
good, like you have those with eggs,
have those with some like a racher of bacon,
sausages, bangers.
Okay, well now you're...
Zoe says put some cheese and melt the
cheese in there, garlic. Oh,
yes. Okay. I know what I'm
doing after the show today.
Mashed potato boxy.
That sounds really good.
Does anybody check on Claire?
She's got COVID.
She was here earlier.
She was complaining about the house buying process and money, like the financial things that she's
having to deal with where they give her too little time to take care of that stuff.
So I think she had to leave.
Well, I went to you have to sit down and sign four billion papers that they tell you
were no big deal and you don't have to read, but somehow they need them.
Really?
Can we?
Yeah.
No kidding.
Well, look, we're in a day and age where so much stuff can.
be done on the internet can i pre buy my car on the internet and then just go to the dealership
and sign a couple things can i pre like do all the paperwork from my new house online and then
just meet with the realtor for like five minutes sign two pieces of paper and call it good it might
actually be more possible now than ever that's possible i would think so right we refied at the
beginning of the pandemic or early in the pandemic and yeah they had us do everything online
except for the quick visit everybody was masked up for a quick visit and a thing
and then we signed one final document or something.
It was like a change, and that was it.
So I think that's easier than ever.
But in Ireland, who knows what they do?
You'll write it all down on paper the way God meant it to be.
Now, how many sheep are you going to be giving us for this?
That's right.
It'll be 20 sheep, and if you don't do it by noon today, it'll be 30 sheep.
That's how they roll over there, right?
Exactly right, yes.
Fry your potato.
All right, let's get into the deal here.
Yeah, yeah.
A monstrous asteroid.
We talked about this a little bit with Bobby.
With Bobby yesterday, yeah.
Yeah, speeding past Earth.
A large, potentially hazardous asteroid is expected to swing fewer than six lunar distances from the Earth at the beginning of next month.
They don't go into it here, but a lunar distance is one moon away.
Correct.
The distance from the Earth to the Moon.
Oh, okay.
This is between us and the moon, not the width of the moon times six.
Not the width of the moon.
No, it's basically from the Earth to the Moon.
six times, and it's less than, it's closer than that.
Do they, do they measure from the outside circumference of the Earth to the outside
circumference to the moon, or is it center point of both?
Oh, like from radial center point in the middle.
Yeah, like what, you know, the center point of the moon to the center point of Earth when it's
like a lunar distance.
That's a great question.
My guess is surface to surface.
Bobby.
Yeah, Bobby, Bobby.
My guess is it's surface to surface if I had to guess, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, that's an interesting question.
Because you can't, because you're not going to, like, distance would mean if it was center to center, it implies that you went from the core of the earth to the core of the moon, and that would be your traveling distance.
And I just don't know if they'd count that.
Right.
Because you're never going to go there.
Bobby Frank says center point.
Really?
And is that measure, like, is that the closer?
Because the moon has an elliptical orbit around us, where it's like at a perigee, apogy, where it's closer.
I don't know which is which.
waning, waxing.
Did you ever the name where Apogee came from for the game company Apogee?
They stole it from that?
Oh yeah, it may be.
So is that the moon at its closest point that it said it's Apogee or furthest point?
Speaking of old boss games, Apogee was big, those days.
Average distance, okay.
Average distance, okay.
So it is center to center.
I would have never guessed that.
That's crazy to me.
Wow.
Well, anyway.
My distance is the center hole.
The center hole.
The asteroid known as 2022 RM4.
sounds like a new video format crappy name i agree the rm4 boy you've got names give it a name the encoding
on rm4 is so bad you need to go back to the mp4s anyway it's expected yeah called the aflac yeah
called the a asteroid after people who are in the movie arm again can we just do that why not um it's
expected to fly past earth november 1st so yesterday at about 1.5 million miles away at its closest
point so this happened and we didn't really notice um it'll pass by the blue planet about
52,500 miles per hour.
That's really what gets you.
If that thing hit the Earth,
what gets you isn't the size.
It's the speed at which it's hurtling toward you.
Sure.
That's what it gets you.
Let's see.
It says here,
any object that comes within 120 million miles of the sun
is deemed a near-earth object.
Well, aren't we the cocky bunch?
Ooh, a near-earth object, yeah.
Oh, 120 million?
Any large body within 4.6 million miles of Earth
is classified with the astronomical term,
quote, a potentially hazardous asteroid or a PHA.
So there you go.
Wow.
This particular RM4 is also an Apollo-type asteroid,
which is a class of object named for asteroid 1862 Apollo,
which I guess is a...
Much better name.
Name them that.
Yeah.
This RM4.
I agree.
Name it a 2022.
It's like the people who are coming up with, you know, COVID variants are also naming asteroids.
How about B-A-5?
B.A. 5. What does the B.A. stand for? I don't know. B.A. F. I don't know. B.A. F. I don't know. Let's move on to. Is it possible that there's the big cover-up in NASA right now? NASA has looked ahead, and they've done their projections. They've figured out that in five years, there is an asteroid that is actually on course to hit Earth. And so they're like, how long do we keep this secret? Let's just, you know, say just in case we're, like, firing missiles at Asteroids.
asteroids to to test things and we're just doing this as a test we're just you know nothing don't worry folks
things are fine but uh you know let's let's maybe try a few more missile hitting asteroid tests
and yeah we never know until it's like that's the the uh the the plot of that movie that came
out last year what was that called oh uh no no no no moonfall no but uh we're all gonna die or
something. Don't look up. That was it. Don't look up. Yes. Right. Okay. That was, right. That's true. Caprio and all
those people. Did you ever, you did see that one, right? Yeah, I liked it. It was good. Yeah. Yeah. It was a
Adam McKay joint. Jennifer Lawrence, not looking very Jennifer Lawrence. No, she'd look very distant. I have all of them. All of them. All of these big
actors look different. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought, uh, for an Adam McKay movie, for an Adam McKay
movie, it was so different than I'm used to for them. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Had humor, but different kind.
Anyway, here's another story.
Sure.
I don't know why we're doing science today, but here we go.
We had Bobby yesterday.
Mouse study suggests a surprising link between nose picking and Alzheimer's.
Oh, Brian, you're screwed.
So mice, quit picking your nose.
Get your finger out of there.
What did Ralphie say?
Ralphie Wiggum once said famously,
my doctor said that I'd stop getting nosebleeds if I could just get my finger out of there.
That's the truth.
Anyway, new study has revealed a tenuous but plausible link between picking your
nose and increasing the risk of developing dementia.
In cases where picking your nose damages internal tissues, critical species, bacteria have a
clearer path to the brain, which responds to their presence in ways that resemble signs of
Alzheimer's disease.
There are tons of caveats here, so don't get too freaked out, but not the least so far
is that supporting research is based on mice rather than humans, but the findings are definitely
worth further investigation and could improve our understanding of how Alzheimer's gets started,
which remains something of a mystery.
Team of researchers led by scientists from Griffith University in Australia
ran tests with bacteria called chlamydia pneumonia pneumonia.
Nomeonei.
Nomeone.
Sounds wrong.
What do you got?
Oh, I got a bad case of the pneumonia.
Nemeonia.
Boogie flu.
It says, I got the rocking pneumonia.
This thing will give you pneumonia, actually.
The bacteria has also been discovered in the majority of human brains affected by late-onset dementia.
So, it's entirely possible that the trigger, the early triggers are this particular bacteria getting all up in there.
And you're helping it by going, jamming your finger up there.
By poking, destroying that protective tissue.
Yeah.
Yeah, the, listen, I stopped doing that as a kid because my mom said, if you keep picking your nose, it'll stay that way.
Yeah.
I didn't understand it then, but I understand it now.
Yeah.
And I have the occasional itch.
I don't think that's what they're talking about.
It was a scratch.
It's people that.
It's people that are like up there digging, you know?
Don't be digging.
Go get a Kleenex like Brian is doing right now.
Look, example.
See?
What did that even cost you?
Mutting the mic right now.
Also, it's going to sound like I'm forcing Campbell's soup through a pastry.
It's like $1.50.
This box here.
I got it at Costco at Kirkland because we had to buy 12 of them in a thing.
Oh, look at that.
Yeah.
These are fine.
I hear there's a ravioli in the bottom of that box, too.
Kirkland Ravioli, a sample.
Yeah.
And I can use it as toilet paper, so.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving on.
Sure.
A woman.
This is crazy.
I love stories about woman.
She's great.
She's my favorite character in this show.
Woman is pretty great.
In this case, it's her kids that are, it's your kids' woman.
It's a kid's body.
It's a kid's woman.
A woman's kids destroy her boyfriend's house and pour cement down the toilet, according to
Tennessee police.
That's a gnarly thing to do to somebody putting cement down there.
Holy cow, that is like hard.
Hardcore.
It is hardcore.
Your core will never be so hard, man.
That's right.
Women's children destroyed her boyfriend's house after pouring cement down the toilet,
nailing a door to the roof and ripping electrical wires out of the wall.
That's a weird one.
This caused over $200,000 in damage, according to the arrest affidavit in Tennessee.
Police responded to the Nashville home on June 26th.
This has been a bit, but it's all coming to court now.
After the man had returned to the property and found it in complete disarray,
the man who was renting the home had left about two months prior
after having a dispute with his girlfriend and her two sons.
Girlfriend was later arrested and went to jail,
leaving her two sons, one of whom is 19, in the home alone.
On the 23rd, the sons called their mother in jail and told her
that an eviction notice had been delivered to the house.
She told them she would have destroyed the house before she went away.
And her 19-year-old son replied,
you're giving this idea right now.
I swear.
This is what happens when you feed them after midnight.
Uh-huh.
A bunch of mugwis.
You get them wet, you get them wet, and you feed them after midnight,
and they start pouring cement down the toilet.
It says three days later her children called her again,
bragging about what they'd done to the house.
They talked about dumping the pots into the driveway,
destroying the bed frame and appliances,
removing walls, ripping out light fixtures,
and pouring concrete down the toilet and flushing it until the handle broke.
Jeez.
Oh, geez.
rude mean not nice it's worst kids ever i know i mean how it's not he was renting the house too that's the
other thing right right this is somebody else's this story doesn't even cover who owns the place and who's
like going to find out as a imagine being so my brother owns two other houses that he you know rents
and rents out right yeah not that uncommon especially he does them his full rents not like Airbnb's or
You know, full rentals, although I keep telling him he should try that.
He wants to Airbnb his basement.
Oh, sure.
And that's fine, but he doesn't have a separate entrance or exit to that.
And I just think that's weird.
It is weird, because then you're like, then you're basically saying, here, have full run of the house.
Yeah.
I'm sleeping.
Plus, they're just, you know, they're two short little Korean people running around making
kimchi all day in there.
It's just weird.
I don't know.
It's fine, I guess.
But we'll see if he ends up doing it.
Um, anyway, uh, my, my point was, oh, yeah, that guy, whoever that is got really screwed and I feel bad for them.
Yeah, no, the owner. Yeah, it's not their fault. I hope these kids, uh, the 19 year old should go to jail.
I love nailing a door to the roof. Like, they're just like, what do we do? Oh, how about we, how do we take this door off the hinges, take it up on the roof and nail it up there?
Like, such a, such a lot of work for like, pull the door off the, it sounds like a YouTube, um, um, oh, God.
prank. The whole thing does, even though
they'd like, subscribe, watch what we
do to this house.
All right, well,
that'll do it for the news. When we come back,
Tom Merritt's going to be here. He'll join
us, as he does on every Wednesday. We'll talk
a little bit about tech. He's going to nail some
tech to the roof of our house.
Yeah, to our foreheads. That'll be
great. I'm looking forward to that.
That's right. Anyway, that's coming up after this song.
Did you bring one? What do you got here?
Oh, I did. I did. Hey, big thanks to
Earshot Media for this one. I think we may have
played these guys before it's a philadelphia band called soraya s o r a ia they have a brand new
ten song lp called bloom it's really really good i had a hard time choosing which song i was
going to play but i did settle on i seek fire this is uh this is a song that's actually doing
really well for them it's uh it's it's it's running up the billboard chart as the uh as they say out
there uh and uh you know don't listen to me listen to joan jet who says sorri is an
extraordinary, exciting, and sure to make Waves band,
who I love and admire.
All right, Cherry Bomb, let's get to it.
Here's the song I Seek Fire from the band Soraya.
A thousand paper cuts.
I sting down the world.
Feeling and fighting.
I stand there.
To describe it
Too tough to fight it
Know what I want
And all I want is you
I've been so lonely
Since you've been known
Obsess, with the stages
I lead you on
You play the call
No what I want and all I want is you
Say
pierce my heart right through
I want to die in love
We can live forever
I've faded fast this drug
Leaving me restless and wired
Just one more try for love
It's too late for forever
New moon is rising
enough it's time
So come show me
I seek brighter
I seek priceless
I seek pride
Oh
Five-pinger talents
Freeming in their nights
Creeping and selling dirty copies in the night
Try to behave
Hubbers my grave
I want you more than my eyes
ever let on
Confused in secret
acting so crazy
His shattered kiss
would be the one good thing to save me
Way
My mind's been torn into
saying
My bleeding heart beat's true
I want a night
We can live forever
And I'm fading past this drug
Leaving me restless and wired
Just one more track for love
Too late for never
New moon is rising up in town
So come show me I seek fire
I see fire
I see fire
I want to die in love
We can live forever
I'm fading fast on drugs
Leaving me to restless and quiet
Just one more tries for love
It's not too late
No moon is rising up
I'm alive
So come show me I seek fire
Oh, you think you're going to get away now.
When I catch your ass, I'm going to kick your ass.
Annoy the rainbow. Taste the rainbow.
The morning stream. You're dead, McNabb. You're even deader than I am.
We have returned. Who was that again?
Yes, that was the band Soraya, S-O-R-A-A-A, and a song from their brand new album, Bloom.
That song is called I-C-C-E.
fire and if you like that you will love the rest of the album it's all that good sounds good
yesterday's was awesome too the mid show one oh yeah yeah yeah the uh there's a short one right
the spray yeah by uh Nate no face it was it was it was rocking is what it was yes it was very
good all right you know what time it is everybody it's this time with the computer as with any
tool the concept and direction must come from the man that man is Tom merit also
recently recovered from COVID he finally caught the thing
the damn thing.
It finally caught me.
Oh, I see.
You were on the run for a good two and a half years, man.
Yeah.
Boom.
Run, Scott.
Run.
I'm trying to feel so alone.
I feel so alone right now, I swear.
Well, anyway, I'm glad you're well.
And I think we talked about this briefly last week, but it's always good to make, you know,
know, your friends are on the mend.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I tested negative on Sunday, so.
Nice.
I still have a little bit of a lingering thing in the chest.
I think I caught a cold.
Oh.
Yeah, that's what happened to me when I had it last month, or two months ago now,
is that it just evolved into like a cold that seemed to last forever after I tested negative for a while.
I test negative every day, but that's my attitude, not my COVID status.
It's just the way you are.
That's the way I am.
Oh, you're testing negative.
Yep, there you go.
That's what my wife always says.
Anyway, Tom, it's great to have you here.
As usual, we do this thing on Wednesdays where Tom brings some tech news to the table and tells us what's going on out there.
What is happening?
and please let it be anything but Elon Musk and Twitter.
It is.
It is not Elon Musk and Twitter.
Plenty of that on Daily Tech News show, should you need to keep up.
And we try to keep it even-handed and just tell you the things you need to know, not dive down rabbit holes with it.
But have you talked about the details on the PSVR 2?
No, well, other than the initial stuff that we've heard so far, but nothing, not this new stuff.
And I know some new deets landed.
Yeah, yeah.
So a pre-order date, November 15th, $549.99 in the U.S., 600 euros, 530 pounds, which I think says more about the pound than it does about anything else.
And 74,980 yen, if you want to get it in Japan.
The shipping date is February 22nd.
So you can pre-order it November 15th, but you're not going to get it in time for Christmas.
and the charging station for the sense controllers is going to be sold separately,
50 bucks or 50 euros or 40 pounds.
So you'll be able to charge the sense controllers with a wire,
but if you want the dock, if you want the station to make it easier to control them,
you're going to have to buy that separate.
Otherwise, it's all the same stuff we already knew.
Oled screen, 110 degree field of view, 4K HDR, 120 hertz, all that stuff.
And if people didn't realize this, not.
compatible with PSVR-1 games.
Right.
So they've announced just about 11 new games today.
I think there's a couple dozen out there announced for the PSVR2.
I think the one everybody's talking about the most is Horizon Call of the Mountain.
But you're going to have games to play on it, but you won't be able to play your old ones if you have a PSVR one.
That's a bummer.
And I realize there's tech here that's making that part hard, like the foveated rendering and stuff,
is just not with those old games support.
And they could, I suppose, in retrospect,
but are they going to,
or at least in the number they need?
So I'm bummed about that just from a, like,
Sony doesn't need any help pushing the idea
that they're terrible at backwards compatibility.
They just are...
Maybe they're just leaning into it at this moment.
Yeah, they kind of are...
Nobody expects us to be backwards compatible.
But also, this thing is more expensive
than an actual PS5, which surprises me.
I thought it'd be less.
But, I don't know.
Seems like the specs...
The specs probably justify it.
given what's in that thing?
I don't know.
I am curious.
People seem to be fairly positive about it, relatively speaking.
It's got a single cable, unlike the PSVR 1, which I believe had 1,200 cables.
Is that right, Brian?
Yeah, they're still sitting over there with the rest of the PSVR 1.
Yeah, they sort of get a life of their own.
I certainly didn't get my money's worth out of that thing.
I do think that they will sell plenty of these to,
people who have PlayStation's who are like, well, I want to have something that works with the
console I got, but it is not competitive with the Quest 2. It's arguably competitive with the Quest
Pro, but those are kind of different things. The Quest Pro is really more of an enterprise level
situation. So, yeah, I don't think it's a bad move by Sony because they will sell them to
their audience, but it's not a good move for VR, if that makes sense. This is a
advancing the VR playground much.
I agree.
Plus,
that other stuff,
including the new pro
from meta and their previous models,
they all work as tethered headsets to PCs as well,
even wireless and beta form.
And I think that that added functionality
makes those much more worth their $3.99
or even their $1,500 for the pro model.
I feel like this is less value,
you're getting less value because,
A, it's kind of expensive anyway,
way. But B, it's tethered to a device that it will only ever work with and there's no
backwards compatibility. Like, it's a big ask, I think. That's the tough part of the whole thing.
Yeah. And so I, it isn't improved quality of play over the quest. For sure. I don't know
that it's enough. It may not be enough. To bring somebody over who didn't already live in that
world. Yeah, because to bring you over, you're going to have to spend $1,500 or so to get a
piece five this games and so on, whereas you could, that would just be a meta pro at that point.
which is a standalone device if you need it to be.
So I don't know.
There's a lot of questions about this.
My biggest thing is the PS4 and PSVR 1 had a pretty good ratio of buy-in.
It was better than most accessories for consoles that were used to.
Usually accessories are terrible buy-ins, and they just end up with like a 5% of overall user base bought the dumb accessory or whatever.
But in that case, they did really well.
It was some 20% or some higher number, I forget, which was a really successful device.
in that space.
I don't know that they're going to get that again.
It's still hard to get a PS5 in general.
Like, I don't, I just don't know how this is,
this is not going to be a one of one.
And PS5 sales slowed last quarter.
Yeah.
According to their earnings report.
So it's not even, you know,
it's not even on the rise
in demand without including the VR.
Yeah, but on the other hand,
Microsoft has zero,
zero Xbox plans for VR at the list at the moment.
So you don't have a lot of competition there.
this maybe gives them a leg up in that regard, I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's why I think it'll do well in its space, right?
There are people that this is for, and they will buy it.
But it's not going to capture the world.
And I don't know that Sony cares whether it does.
I think Sony is looking at it as, well, VR isn't really there yet anyway.
So let's make something that we can learn from that will satisfy a good portion of our most loyal audience.
and, you know, and we'll move on from there when the time is right,
which isn't necessarily a bad way to go.
Yeah, it's also a demonstrably better piece of hardware
than what the PSVR1 was, and I don't know,
the price feels right to me with those caveats.
The only other thing I'd say, and I know you mentioned it,
but it does come with that code for Call of the Mountain,
Horizon Call of the Mountain, which apparently, like,
these demo events has blown the socks off of people using it.
That's what everybody's talking about.
Is that a sequel to Horizon?
It's not a sequel.
It's not a full game.
It's more like a VR offshoot.
It's like a, so you're not going to play it.
And it's no relation to Rainbow's Man on the Silver Mountain.
No, it's not bad at all.
Oh, well, then I'm definitely out.
Because that's what I was expecting based on the name.
But usually with those I kind of, I roll my eyes because I'm like, oh, an off shoot of a thing that's popular.
That sounds lame.
I want the real thing around.
Yeah, but Miles Morales, the offshoot of the Spider-Man, Sony's Spider-Man game was great.
Yeah, but that was a full game.
that was like a game you know like a full full game was it was it full i mean it felt like it felt like
it was about a quarter the the width of the spider-man game oh maybe i'd have to look it up
it was probably less overall for sure but i would call it more than dLC certainly but less than
yeah yeah yeah it's more than dLC but when it comes to vr it's like you know you assume that
they're caveats or that there's sacrifices you know to content or something and all word on
the street is this is supposed to be a really good
cool standalone experience. So I am kind of excited about that. Anyway, that'll be soon. February's
when you can buy it. And we'll see. Didn't you end up in a Quest Pro to test in the studio there,
didn't you, or something? I did. Yeah, I unboxed it here, took a look at it real quick,
and then shipped it off to Sarah Lane. So she will be playing with it and reporting back more
about it. She'll be living with it, as it were. She will. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what she will be.
Yeah, that's what they call it over there.
Awesome.
Well, more about this and other stories later today on the Daily Tech News show.
It's a Wednesday, so I get to be on.
Very exciting.
Tom, anything else happening in your world you'd like to find folks at home to know about?
Yeah, absolutely.
A word with Tom Merritt is going strong.
I've been having some great conversations with folks.
One, Scott Johnson is on the docket coming in the next several weeks.
But this week we have Josh Grisdale, who is,
an IT guy in Japan
and is
talking about
immigrate. So he moved
from Canada, sorry,
to Japan,
and we talk about his experience
as somebody, he's not,
he is not descended from people
who are Japanese, but he is now Japanese
because he immigrated to Japan.
So we talked to him all about that
this week on Thursday.
Last week was Casscaw
talking about the word scare.
in honor of being Halloween week.
Great conversation there.
And we got more good stuff on the way.
Mike Kinney, who played Coach Armstrong on DeGrasi,
coming up to talk about Learn,
because he's been doing a bunch of learn videos as well.
So go check it out.
It's a word podcast.com.
That sounds great.
I can't wait to be on.
It's Tom Merritt, everybody.
Ace Detect on Twitter, if it's still Twitter for much longer.
I don't know, whatever.
I'm not wanting to do him say about it.
We'll talk about that too, probably.
Tom, have a fantastic.
We'll see you later.
all right uh let's get uh let's get to this so now that now that Elon must said it's
eight bucks a month to retain your right I know I'm still not doing it F off I'm not doing it
there's no way not a way in hell the no I did I said I said you know if I have to pay to
keep my blue checkmark I'm probably leaving Twitter and going somewhere else and I do
I do kind of like what I'm seeing with counter social yeah there's lots of alternatives
popping up counter social is maybe my favorite of all of them but they yeah
I don't even, even if I stay posting on Twitter, which I probably will do.
I'm just, I'm not giving that dude money for a blue check mark.
Like the point of a blue check mark isn't supposed to be status anyway.
The blue check mark is supposed to be, you are who you say you are.
That's it.
That's all it was ever supposed to be.
Now, people see it as a clout symbol or whatever, but they shouldn't.
And that's partly on Twitter's, that's on Twitter for years, not making that more of a priority to make it like, this is how we identify you.
because they made it cloudy
but it doesn't need to be
and it shouldn't be
and it's stupid as shit
and Musk is irritating
the hell out of me
anyway
yeah yeah
let me move on here
what do we have
next oh we got the
we got the recommendals
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
we got
Randy and Nicole in the wings today
we pull them both in here
left wing and right wing
that's right
oh that maybe not
maybe not well
depends on your context now
You never know where that'll go.
Welcome to Recommendals, everybody.
We talk about streaming stuff right here on the show.
Welcome back to the show.
Let's start this week with Nicole.
Hi, Nicole.
Hi, that was weird music.
What's with the spooky music?
It was a spooky.
Oh, it's the Discord ringtone.
Oh, the ringtone from Discord.
That's Discord, not us.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, they're doing a Halloween event.
So that's all that.
Yeah, Halloween's over, guys.
I was told Stown earlier this week.
It's like, oh, I hope they keep that ringtone.
I like it so jaunty and spooky at the same time.
They'll get rid of it like November 9th or something.
It's sponty.
It's sponty.
Or jukey.
Yeah, why not?
Every year they do a new one, so maybe next year is leading to be better.
That's my favorite sewing machine.
Is it?
The chunky?
The juky.
Sure.
Yeah, it's a brand of sewing machine.
It really is.
Oh, hilarious.
Oh, weird.
Didn't expect that to be true.
Also with us there waiting in the wings, we've got Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy.
Good morning, morning stream. Happy November to you. You know what that means?
That means I'm taking down my not Christmas tree and putting up the Christmas tree.
I'm very very excited about this. The not Christmas tree has served its purpose. It's done a really good job all year.
But time for the big one. Time for the big one. We did that yesterday. Kim put up the tree, started decorating crap. The house is starting to look like the holidays.
I don't know. People think that's weird, but I don't think it's weird. I think it's right on time.
time. I don't think it's weird at all. I'm not playing the music yet. That's going to wait a little while.
It's not weird for you. Fair point. All right. Well, we're going to do these recommendals. And we always, as tradition states, start with Brian, a bit here with his clip. Brian, you want to set this up at all?
I'm going to set this up and tell you that this is a film that really snucked under the radar for me.
but once it becomes a little bit easier for everybody to watch,
I think it's going to be highly regarded.
And I think, to be honest,
it made me laugh as much as any movie since what we do in the shadows.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
This clip might not be as funny as it's hard to find funny clips that aren't visually funny.
But, yeah, I think you'll enjoy this.
I'm excited.
Here we go.
I check the front entrance.
There's a key deadlock.
and there's a sliding bolt and no footprints
and no force entry.
Nice job, Chris.
Take five.
What's your girlfriend's name?
Andy.
Angela.
Write that down, Chris.
It's Angela DeGrasi.
You killed her, too.
May I remind you that I reported this murder
and waited for you all to arrive?
You've been drinking long?
Oh, geez.
I had my first beer when I was 12.
Here go, Chris.
I'm not your waitress.
No, I understand that, but I thought
Maybe you'd like my fingerprints.
See?
Cooperating.
Hey, um, guy, sorry, I don't know your name.
Evidence?
Do you need a blanket?
You know, Chris?
Why don't you ask Mr. Fletcher some questions?
You're going to have the trainee interrogate me.
Go ahead, Chris.
Go ahead, Chris.
Okay.
Um, Mr. Fletcher, did you know the victim, Laurel Goodwin?
Mm-mm.
We never offer up the victim.
him's a name. It's Gris' turn. Never met her. At least not while she was alive.
Is it me? There's John Hamm and John, John Cena had the same voice. Do they have the same voice?
Cina and Ham. They sound the same to me. John Cena and John Ham. Now that you say that, yeah,
there's a very, there's a great. Because right at the beginning, I'm like, oh, that's John
Sina. What would this be? And then I'm like, well, movie wise. And then I'm like, oh, no, that's John
Ham and that's that Fletch thing. So tell us about it. It's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's confess
Fletch, which is finally a third Fletch movie after Fletch and Fletch lives,
where we've got a brand new actor, John Hamm, playing Fletch.
This is based on the 1976 novel.
But this movie is directed by Greg Matola,
who did Super Bad, Adventureland,
the day trippers.
I thought it was Peacemaker.
Oh, you thought this was peacemaker.
Because he thought it was John.
That's so funny.
Because I don't know if I was,
I was on the show when I watched Peacemaker.
Did I recommend Peacemaker?
One of us did.
One of us definitely recommended Peace.
You did?
It was so good.
Sorry.
I thought that.
I thought so.
I was like, oh, I know what it is?
No, I know.
That's funny.
Yeah, no, it's, but look at that.
Another, another John Cena person who hears that voice.
Anyway, this is, this is really funny.
And I am, you know, we knew John Hamm had some comedy chops from his time on 30 Rock, from his time
on Kirby Enthusiasm, maybe less so from his progressive commercials.
But, I mean, the dude is funny.
Oh, yes, Sardant Live commercial where he sells John Hamm,
which is Ham rolled up on a roll like toilet paper.
Oh, that's awesome.
He was really good in the, oh, that's the one that the, the movie,
the one where he's the, there's two angel, one's the devil, the other's the angel.
Good omens.
He played the Gabriel.
he's fantastic in good omens really good
he's great and uh he he rejoins his madman co-star john slattery from cooper sterling cooper draper
price um who's also in this as a uh an editor for a newspaper uh and i heard i heard
roy wood junior is in here as well yep oh he's there's a bonus you can't mistake for anyone
else he's he's that uh that uh investigated it uh is helping to interrogate um
Fletch. You also get Robert Picardo and Marcia Gaye Hardin, both donning really weird
accents to kind of play Europeans, but pulling it off, I think, really well. This is, this had us
laughing like the whole way through. It's really good. And it's, uh, John Hamm is, is kind of the
master at this seemingly, like always free a few steps ahead, but giving off the appearance that he's
kind of bumbling. And I think he, I hate to say it, I think he does it better than Chevy Chase did.
Chevy Chase always felt like he was, um, smarmoly laughing at everybody around him inside.
John Hamm, you know, is sympathetic, feels like he's sympathetic to those, to the, to the inspector and to the trainee and to the, also, yeah, it needs to be a little like Leslie Nielsen in a Naked Gun, right?
Like the, the sort of unaware aspect. Yes, exactly. He needs to pull that off, but
also, you know, you find out. Oh, yeah, he's always
two or three steps ahead.
Kyle McLaughlin's got a great role
as this art dealer, this germaphobe
art dealer.
This is fantastic.
Currently just streaming on Showtime
right now. So if you're doing the Showtime
thing because you're watching Kevin Can F himself,
which you should be watching Kevin Can F himself,
then you can watch this. But I'm sure before too long
it'll probably come to Paramount Plus
because it is a Paramount Pictures film
that got released a little over a month and a half ago.
I have an unreasonable irritation with movie titles that have commas in them.
But I'm going to let this one go because it's literally the book name, right?
It is literally the book name.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Yeah.
So Girl Interrupted really rubbed you the wrong way.
It does.
It drives me crazy.
I don't like when commas are in there.
To me, it's a sentence that's like half there.
It's not really a title.
I don't know why.
What if it's required by grammar?
so like the movie title three billboards outside ebbing comma Missouri oh yeah there you go that's a good one
you know what that's a good case coward robert ford that one they i think had like uh semicolins and commas
and did it monsters ink monsters ink has a comma in it uh let's see is that true no way the assassination
of jesse jackson sorry jacson the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford has no
punctuation in it oh really it probably should but it doesn't honey i shrunk the kids
Good Morning Vietnam.
I think who's talking to.
We're proving actually commas make the best movies.
Wait, look who's talking to doesn't have it.
It doesn't?
No, because that would be, what, where would the comma be?
Look who's talking?
Comma, too, T.O.
Oh, do they?
Now I'm going to be annoyed.
It doesn't have one, but it should.
It should who's talking, too.
That's this 80s film guy in my head that won't let this happen.
But you know what?
We'll allow it because it sounds great.
I do want to see this.
I really like John Hamm a lot and everyone else.
Captain Kipper put a link
movies with commas in the title.
Yeah, three billboards.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Scott.
Not a fan of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, are you?
I like that movie, a lot.
Planes, Trains, and Automobiles has a comma and an ampersand.
Yeah, it does.
Locked stock and two smoking barrels.
Ah, damn it.
You found movies I like.
I Tanya.
No, this is bad.
Sex, Lies, and Videotape.
Ooh, I did like I Tanya a lot.
That was really good.
Yeah.
The thief, the wife, and the canoe?
I want to make Scott's case, though.
The movie title, Good Morning Vietnam, does not need a comma in the title.
It doesn't need good morning Vietnam.
It doesn't need like that, right?
It could just be, good morning, Vietnam.
Like that.
Dude, where's my car?
Is it?
I had a question mark in that title.
And a question mark.
A comma and a question mark.
I feel like it's almost too good for them because they should be bad at grammar.
The comm actually elevates the material.
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying.
You know, recommendal 17 things.
Let me see where they're streaming.
Well, speaking of recommendals.
Anyway, so Confess Fletch currently on Showtime,
absolutely worth seeing.
And, you know, I'm saying I want more John Hemp Fletch movies
because this was hilarious.
There's a whole series of novels, right?
They could keep going.
There is.
Oh, yeah.
Tons.
Okay, awesome.
That's what I've been really curious about.
What do you think about Roy Wood Jr. for next host of The Daily Show?
oh was he doing that is that happening right they're looking at him right or there's already he's on he's on the short list that's been uh blind dropped over and over i would
uh the number one everybody's saying is samantha b which makes sense yeah but she's got her own thing is
perfect for that sort of thing so i really like him a lot yeah okay that's great news actually to hear that
i uh i'm hoping for the the dark horse um oh crap i've just lost his name uh
the guy who had his own show after the daily show for a couple of years.
And his podcast is called Black on the Air.
Larry Wilmore.
Oh, Wilmore.
I love it.
There's no way.
But Larry Wilmore would be so amazing.
He's great.
Love that guy.
He might be too far past it.
But yeah.
All right.
Let's get to Nicole's recommendation this week.
Nicole, I see you, I've got to see, this is a YouTube link.
I've got this all queued up.
Do you have anything you want to say about that?
this before I hit play it's a documentary it came out in 2019 I missed it um I follow this
the woman that made the documentary I've even rode on a plane with her wow that's cool
all right you go did you guys talk about the documentary when you're on the plane no this was
early early in her career okay so she snored and drooled on you from the windows she was in
first class I was waiting to go standby she was standing
to me, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's who I think it is. Oh, that's rad. Okay. And then she slinked off
to fancy place on the plane. Her child was very small at the time. So she was, fair enough.
I didn't want to, I didn't want to bug her. Sure. All right, well, here's the, here's the deal.
Why is it not making sound? Remember the kids books in the 50s, see Dick, see Jane. And I just felt
like, you know, we see Dick all the time. I just wanted to see more Jane.
Media has the power to educate, to shape people's thoughts.
It also has an incredible power when you get to see someone who's like you on screen.
Women's creative input is not making it into our nation's storytelling.
Most of television and most of the film is men making stuff for other men.
We give them so few opportunities to feel inspired by the female characters.
I've been one of those little girls looking for myself.
Interesting.
So, was Gina Davis on the plane?
Yes, Gina Davis was on my plane.
Wow, cool.
That's cool.
That changes everything.
Yeah, it does.
I agree.
So tell me about this.
This looks good.
So I've been following Gina Davis for a very long time.
She created the Gina Davis Institute on Gender and Media quite a long time ago.
and this documentary looks at the data in a big picture kind of thing of how does how do women get
portrayed, how do women directors get work?
And the documentary fans kind of a bunch of different topics.
So like towards the middle to the end is kind of the legal battles that have happened
to address directors winning these awards and then not working at all.
And what's her name from Kickass?
She was in Carrie, too.
Chloe Moritz.
She is in it.
And she talks about her, I mean, these are very famous, powerful women.
And they're sharing their stories of frustration issues.
issues within the industry.
And so I like this documentary because it, you know, there's a lot of feelings to, to that.
But it says, Gina Davis says, you know what?
I'm going to come up and I'm going to, I'm going to look at the facts.
We're going to look at all the movies in the last, you know, 50 years or whatever.
And they did an interesting piece on it where they went so far back to silent films.
And women were just everywhere.
It wasn't until the talkies started and banks got involved that the industry changed.
So I just found it a really fascinating kind of deep dive into women in movies.
And there's this thing called the CSI effect that I had no idea.
And they call this when something gets portrayed by a woman and little girls,
girls see this and want to do that.
So Gina Davis is a, she's an archer.
And so her coach was telling her about when brave and hunger games came out,
they saw a hundred and five percent increase in girls wanting to learn archery.
And with the CSI effect is the forensic was a woman.
And that industry is now full of women in forensics.
So it's just, it's really interesting.
And they kind of go back to kind of TV shows.
And I was kind of going through my head.
What were some of the TV shows that I really loved and I feel like they impacted me?
Laverne and Shirley.
Have you listened to those lyrics of Laverne and Shirley the beginning of?
it. We're going to do it our way. Yeah, they came up yesterday. Isn't that true? Like,
did that have an effect of me? I don't know. Maybe it did. You know, and I was going to do my
thing, right? So you just never know what's going to hit for a particular person. But I just,
I thought it was an interesting documentary and I really enjoyed it. We should say the name. It's called
This Changes Everything. Yes. It is from 2019. It's currently on Netflix and a few other
There's another one, another documentary called This Changes Everything, but it's about climate change.
Yeah, totally different movie.
The reason.
This one doesn't have a comma.
That one is going to have this comma, changes, comma, everything.
But this one was interesting.
I was like, why did they call it this changes everything?
Because they talk about when these movies came out.
So like when Thelma Louise came out, everybody was like, this changes everything.
And it didn't.
And like, so you have these points in.
in history where you think this is going to change it.
No, it doesn't.
It might move just a little bit.
So it's just talking and trying to make us more aware with the content.
Is this the documentary?
Is this the documentary I saw a little clip from recently where Gina Davis is talking about Bill
Murray being a jerk on set to women?
Is that the one?
Because there's some like clip floating around her going.
No, I don't.
No, no, no.
He yelled at her and like was like a total weenie and then she thought it was just
her but then other women on set would get yelled at the next day and she'd get overlooked and she
thought well maybe I'm maybe it isn't just me and then she asked him and says oh I'm glad
you're not yelling at me today and she goes he said something like well today you were a good
girl or something like that it's like really bastardy shit to say yeah and and that's what
this kind of dives into the secrecy of that industry and I have a question does this
documentary because I haven't seen it yet I'm definitely going to watch it
do they take any time at all to talk about what happened to Jennifer Lawrence?
I don't think Jennifer Lawrence.
That monster movie?
Is that the one you're talking about?
She just she just was the king of all hills in Hollywood one year.
Like she was in every, you know, she won an Oscar and had all these, all this work happening.
And then her ability to make money plummeted.
It didn't go to zero.
But like she went from, you know,
commanding anything she wanted.
She could direct if she wanted to, anything she wanted to do, to going back to middle
of the pack.
And it's like, how did that happen?
You know, what, it's a very weird.
Yeah, that was an odd thing.
And that monster movie in particular, is it called Monster?
Do I have that right?
I don't know.
That was the one with, uh, Mother.
Oh, mother.
That's it.
Mother.
Yeah.
Apparently that's, that thing just was, was horrible.
A horrible experience.
Yeah.
I don't know the details.
Reese Witherspoon is in it.
a lot of a lot of famous actresses are in it um uh gling gling not glenclose uh mama mia shoot
oh is that glenclose no no i know who you mean merrill street so like big hollywood
and what was happening they they they talk about the the guilds and how the guilds were
restricting the women to even talk to one another like to form and to say you know
I'm having problem.
Like, it's like this weird, you're kind of siloed off to not share your experiences.
So, I mean, again, 2019, maybe things have changed.
I don't know.
It just, it's a, it's a frustrating movie to watch, but I'm hopeful that things are moving in the right direction.
That sounds like I'm absent.
I'm with Randy.
I'm going to totally watch this.
It looks great.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
I like that kind of data, too, where they're like, let's actually dig up the last 100 years of film and let's see what is there.
Like, that's way more interesting than just opinions.
I like the data.
Yeah.
Well, and all those little factoids that will show up throughout the documentary.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
All right.
Go watch.
Randy, let's do you next.
You got a little something here.
You have a set up.
I don't follow a serious important subject with some frivolity.
Awesome.
It's all right.
You're about to hear what goes down on a cruise ship that is having problems when the weird captain decides to address all the people who are stuck on the boat.
Oh, interesting.
Here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, I know this you have some questions, and I will answer them.
Don't insult us.
What?
How was that insulting?
We know what's going on.
Yeah, we know.
We hit a patch of choppy space.
Mission Control said three years to get home.
I was in the room.
She was in the room.
You know what better if one of us speaks bake.
Yeah, look, that, that is what I heard.
Okay.
We're all going to die in Spanish.
I'm going to just get rid of that because it does look a little bit stark.
This is Billy, our chief engineer.
I'm not going to pass over the explanation baton to Billy.
Go ahead.
Just on his own.
Take it.
Okay.
So we were due to them.
Uh, yeah.
Um, so we were due to.
hold it further from your face you're popping there okay um so the plan was to use titan's gravity
as an assist to say propellant english please which one of those words was not english sir
propellant propellant just make it less uh technical it you know uh so um saturn is uh is a big big
planet um with a big big moon titan and we were going to use titan's gravity as a propellant
repellent again.
If I didn't know what this was, I'd
swear the dialogue was like ripped from a VP
episode. They're so similar. Yeah, I know.
I need you all to watch this.
And I'm recommending it right now because
there's a second season finally.
And it's coming out weekly on
HBO Max. So you can watch
the first season and catch up. This is Avenue
5. Avenue 5
is a spaceship in the future.
an absolutely
crazy
wealthy man
played by Josh Gad
perfectly played by Josh Gad
is running a cruise ship
and not running
he's owning and
terribly possessing a cruise ship
that things go wrong on in space
and you very quickly find out
that everybody that you think
is running the ship is not
that was Hugh Laurie
as the captain of the ship
Hugh Lorry
plays this this uh english actor who has been aping an american accent uh all the way until
until this uh you know accident and then he just decides he's not going to do this anymore
uh it's just it's a perfectly it's a perfectly cromulent first season for a what's basically
you know just a dark comedy the second season though you know they uh this came out the first
season came out right before covid started and so they just took two years off
And it gave, like, writers and creators and even these actors a lot of time to really figure out how to just pack everything into this second season.
It's, it's awesome.
I don't believe there's a second season, by the way.
So I watched this when it first came out.
I think it even recommended it.
Yeah.
I honestly did that think.
Two years is such a long time, though.
But I didn't think they would do a second season.
Yeah.
There are a few shows like that.
It's so long.
yeah there's there's a few that are showing up now that came out like tail end of 2019 that
i just assumed we're done i thought this is yeah are you uh randy are you into the second season
yet at all does it yes that's what i'm saying i'm current on it i'm recommending it because
uh now after i think five episodes into the second season it is it is so good i'm seeing
articles where people are like get get in the pool this is a great show and we need to
make sure that hbo makes more of them oh god i thought the first season was
so funny. So I'm, I was really excited
to see, you know, when they announced the second
season, it was like, oh, I thought this show was
over and done. So,
the orbit of poo.
Oh, my God.
So, so what,
I guess what they really did to amp up
the comedy in this second season
is they, uh, they started
focusing on all of the characters.
Like the, it was almost like the first season was just
setting up these stories, you know?
And you, I mean, you may not realize that until you start
seeing the stories play out.
It's just like, for example, back on Earth, in the second season, back on Earth,
there is a crazy dramedy TV show where they're dramatizing what's happening out in space on
Avenue 5.
And so the people on Avenue 5 are able to receive, they beam the TV show, they can watch
it too.
And they interact with each other in crazy ways because there are actors playing.
them back on earth.
Oh, great.
Oh, awesome.
Wow.
All right.
I'm in.
I'll finally watch it.
HBO Max.
It's so good.
Yeah, it's so worth watching.
Hugh Laurie is just,
like here in the second season.
Hugh Laurie is fantastic.
There's a,
like,
Zach Woods is
my favorite on this.
And people know him from the office
and from Veep and
he's,
in Avenue 5,
he's kind of a passenger
lea.
on only he's like the worst imaginable passenger liaison like he is trained to like help people be happy on their cruise and he can't escape his training or something it's really it's hard to describe some of these characters like Josh Gad Josh Gad is it's fantastic but like he's too dumb to live and you say like it's like how do they I don't know it's a the
the whole show, everybody in the cast.
I haven't mentioned any of the women.
Lenora Critchlow is the only person who knows how to operate this thing.
She's amazing.
Great. I'm in.
Yeah.
Sign me up.
Please watch, Scott.
I will.
Now, you may be wondering, Scott's been watching a lot of horror movies almost nonstop for all of October.
Maybe a little more than that.
I even watched Barbarian twice.
How do you clean your vessel after that?
Well, here's what I did.
Over 100,000 have hauled out on one single beach.
They do so out of desperation, not out of choice.
All right.
I've been watching nature documentaries.
Yeah.
Because, I don't know, that just seemed like the right answer to too many horror movies is to watch naturedocks.
Too many horror movies and too much just like regular horror in our regular lives.
But I need to get right to the question, is this the one with the falling sea lions?
Yeah, and that's the scene, actually.
They're not, they're walruses, and it's rough because that entire scene is all about how, because the ice receding north, the places they used to congregate for mating and a certain part of the season where they just need rest and food and all this, they're forced now to be, to congregate on these tiny strips of land that aren't big enough.
them and they're so crammed in and they're fighting all the time because they don't have
room and they can't help it and then some of them to get out of there the best chance they
have is to dive off of this cliff and tumble down over these huge rocks and they die by the
hundreds because they just don't have a choice they just get shoved off there and there's
nowhere else to go um it's this particular documentary which is called and this cheered you up
after barbarian well i mean it's not all this obviously but um it's called our planet it's
a Netflix documentary. It's been a while for a while. This isn't brand new. But the reason this one is interesting is it has a focus on areas of natural life where climate change is having the worst impacts. Ice, you know, ice caps melting, you know, various changes in ecosystems around the world. This used to be more swampy. Now it's less. Or this is a dry area that's getting tropical or whatever. And what species or what creatures are being directly affected?
affected. So that's the whole point of this particular series. Attenborough does, of course,
a million documentaries about stuff. Everyone's seen Planet Earth and all the other cool stuff he's
done. This is right up there with those in terms of its photography and it's insane vistas and
I cannot believe they film this creature doing a certain thing kind of stuff. It's beautiful. It's in
4K. If you can watch it that way, I recommend it. It's just awesome. I really like it a lot.
And our planet, while it has that sting of like, man, we're really effing things up around here.
So here's how we could fix it.
It's still, you know, it's not a negative fest.
It's also kind of a celebration of what natural life is doing out there.
Like one thing I didn't know, I always assume, oh, the ice caps are melting.
So that means all these problems and you can make a list of problems.
But what I didn't realize is just under them are these weird little shrimp-looking creatures that are constantly feeding on the algae-created
between the ice and the sun
and where the sun comes
and hits a certain way
and creates this algae
so this whole ecosystem of those things
lives underneath those caps
so those go away they go away
if they go away
these fish that eat them go away
and the fish the birds that eat
those fish go away
like it's just this huge domino effect
is gnarly anyway
it's really good I recommend it
our planet is the series
it's on Netflix
it's just so heartbreaking
like it came out three and a half years ago
And I know this because every now and then someone brings it up on like Reddit.
And my kid was a little too young.
But there was a whole generation of kids that were in like high school and were shown this as it was coming out on Netflix.
And then now they're older and they're online.
And, you know, you bring up the falling walruses and they all cry.
They're like, why did our teacher, you know, scar us for life with this thing?
Sure, sure.
Yeah, no, it's it's crazy.
And it's not, I don't find it preachy, if that's what anyone might be worried about here.
Like, I understand that for some reason humans have turned climate change into a political football.
And that sucks and we're dumb for doing it.
But if you're worried about coming into this and just getting preached at, that isn't what this is.
It's just laying it out saying here it is on in 4K beautiful widescreen video for you to see the impact.
And also, we're going to teach you a few things about what lives here and what what breeds here and how that affects this.
where these ecosystems are connected and how it freaking works.
That's why I think this one's important.
So people should check it out.
It is on Netflix.
Anybody have a favorite David Attenborough that isn't a nature documentary?
Oh my gosh.
I don't know.
I'm just like curious.
Like have you ever seen him outside of that?
I don't think I've ever seen him do anything outside of that.
I thought his brother Richard was the only one that acted.
Did he do acting as well?
Not exactly.
But I mean like I've seen him like interviewed.
on a TV show where, you know, he talked about something else, anything else.
I like him as a cop on the edge in, uh, was he, was he cash in checks, his car couldn't cash or
whatever.
That's exactly right.
Yes, he's cashing checks that his, his description of nature couldn't cash.
That sounds about right.
That's description of nature.
And we see the female breaking the law.
That's right.
Anyway, uh, there's your list.
We will put these up on, uh,
QuickTMS.L.I.
They're already there, man.
They're already there.
So you can go get those.
If you didn't hear any of them, well.
Get out of luck.com.
That's what you got there.
Sorry, Christine.
That'll do it for us.
You guys got anything cool going on.
You want to tell people about?
I know we got film sack this weekend, Randy.
We should probably mention that real quick.
What are we watching?
Do you remember?
We're watching true lies, as you said, a half hour ago.
Yep.
And it's going to be, it's going to be really, really great.
I can't believe we've made it 13 years and we've not seen this yet.
Yeah.
Yeah, the truest of lies is that we never saw it.
Now we're going to.
see it, that'll be great. Nicole, do you got anything going on?
Mark is going to release
a video on an Instagram tomorrow
and it's our
first true collaboration project.
Ooh.
Can I have a moment to
interrogate something from Wood Whisperland?
Do it. Sure.
I like, I love
his TikTok
videos, but... Oh, I hear a but
coming. They always
seem to start in the middle and end before
the end. And I'm just curious, like,
is that on purpose is that an intentional thing that's like supposed to lure you to some other channel no i don't know
what they're doing we have somebody doing that for us yeah i was going to say you've talked about this before
you've got like a service that does this right and they're pulling yes that i need to talk to them apparently
no i'm not i'm not complaining i think it's fantastic i just like i wanted just i wanted to know if that
was something you were doing or someone else was choosing to do yeah also by the way you're for you have
two other collaboration projects in the form of your children. So I just wanted to point
that. This is true. I'm talking, this collaboration is woodworking and lasers. Oh,
nice. Yeah. Wood and lasers right now. Oh, man. Wood and the wood and laser show should be
an offshoot. Get this going. Make this happen. All right. Well done. It's always good to talk to you
guys. Have a fantastic rest of your week. Bye. And I'll see you soon. Okay. They left on their own.
They left on their own.
So, all right, I think we're good to go.
I think, I was looking up David Attenborough.
He's never done anything other than this.
His brother was an actor, though.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think maybe he was mixing those two up.
Well, I mean, I think Randy was talking for about, like,
when he's a guest on somebody's interview show or something like that, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
Hard to say.
But no fiction.
No, like, David Attenborough.
No.
He was the T-Rex.
The road trip movie across the country.
That'd be cool.
Do that with his brother.
They could do a Jurassic Park spinoff.
Oh, there are you.
Perfect.
Yeah.
The two Hammond brothers.
Not Hammond brothers.
The two, was his name on Jurassic Park?
He was Dr.
Hammond, right.
No, it was it Hammond?
Yeah.
It was Hammond.
Yeah.
The Hammond Brothers.
The Hammond Brothers.
All right.
Cheese.
The new movie coming from the Attenborough brothers.
Yep.
Watch for it.
Coming soon.
Quick email to end things today.
this is an email from Jeff Sire, our old pal Jeff.
Sure.
I knew he would have thoughts on helmets.
I just knew it.
So he wrote in and says,
Scooter and biker,
just some perspective on helmets and laws
from someone who rides.
First off, if you talk about 100 bikers,
you will get 100 different opinions,
and this is just one of mine.
Or this one is just mine.
Motorcycling is inherently more dangerous
than driving a car. Check.
That is true.
So I can understand the argument
that someone is forcing you to wear a helmet
for safety is the first step towards telling
you that you can't ride at all because it's too
dangerous. Okay, so I didn't even
thought of that. Like, if you're a biker,
this is the problem with gun owners, right?
If somebody says, well, we just need
to have logical gun things, their brain
says, oh, you're going to keep doing that until
you chip it away until I can't have a gun at all.
Yeah, but I mean, does people
telling you that you need to wear a seatbelt
is, do you consider
that to be the first step towards people telling you
you can't ride in a car at all because
it's too dangerous? No.
His sentence I don't agree with, but...
I agree with you that that's a weird thing,
but I agree that that is the way people's brains go.
I guess what I'm saying is I think they're inherently wrong,
just like you do.
And I don't think he's arguing for them either.
He's just saying that's where some people's heads go.
I totally get how people think.
Yeah, especially gun owners.
They just, they think any foray into safety stuff.
Is a slow path towards taking away your gun.
Yeah, a slippery slope, which is annoying as hell.
hell because that isn't what it is. But anyway,
he says people who ride without a helmet
make the tradeoff of safety versus individual liberty
and I get and agree with that for you Americans.
But in Canada we have a socialized healthcare system.
Socialized is not the communism for all the people who suddenly have
steam jetting out of their ears. It just means collectively
covering an expense. Like how y'all
pay for the fire department and we all love our first responders,
right.
Good job, Jeff.
You need to move down here and help some people.
Exactly.
I like his explanation of socialization.
So he says, so in a socialized system, that means I'm paying for your health care,
and that gives me the right to tell you to shut up and put a helmet on.
We recently made religious exceptions up here in Ontario for Sikhs who can ride without
helmets because of their turbines.
However, they don't have to pay a premium on their insurance.
I'm sorry, they have to pay a premium on their insurance.
They don't have to pay a premium on their insurance.
Oh, that they should.
I read that as don't or
I read that as do because I think they should.
Like if you're,
if everyone else has to wear a helmet,
you have a religious exemption for a turban,
but that turban's not going to protect you in an accident.
Right.
You should probably pay a premium.
You think?
There's your tradeoff.
I don't think religion should get you out of that kind of shit.
Get you a coupon for discounted, uh,
no.
No.
I don't think that works at all.
Anyway,
he says,
uh,
however they don't have to pay a premium on their insurance to ride without a helmet.
So in my opinion,
this is wrong and there should be.
be an exemption. Religious or not. I agree. Or exception, rather. On the last note, I rode one time
from South Dakota without a helmet from my hotel in Chamberlain to the restaurant a couple of
miles away. I felt super weird to me, or it felt super weird to me, and I've never done it again, and
that was 2007. Thanks, Jeff. P.S. It was on this ride when I emailed Scott that I'd write out
to Salt Lake City to watch a movie with him if he ever decided to do that nerd, that weird nerdtacular
again, L.O.L. from Jeff's from. Interesting perspective. I mean, this dude's got like the big
coast-to-coast, you know, cruiser bike and knows as much as anybody does about these kind of bikes.
And I would trust his opinion above most when it comes to helmets and stuff.
I'm not saying you should be forced to do anything.
I'm a big believer and don't force people to do stuff.
Sure.
But I think if you're going to be a dip shit, there are consequences to be in a dip shit.
Yeah, but then do you say, well, if you're going to be a dipshit, we're not going to pay for your health care when you get in an accident.
100% I would say that. I wouldn't say I'm not going to pay for your health care.
What I would say is you're going to pay a premium for the right to do this thing that the rest of us aren't doing.
Because we were talking about that came up during this pandemic that we're still in that people want to say is over.
But where, you know, we said, all right, if you refuse to get the vaccine, then you shouldn't get the advantages.
You shouldn't get the priorities of the health care, you know, that people who did get the vaccine.
you're still suffering from COVID.
Right, right.
If you're making it harder for everybody else because you just have some personal reason.
Like, I just, I don't know.
Like, if the science has one thing to say and you want to say a different thing,
it's your right to say it, but you don't get, you're not first in line.
And now that you, now we made that comparison, I'm with you then on the, on the, yeah,
you should pay a premium if you refuse to follow the, you know, the guidance that will prevent
you having to require us to pay for your health care.
Yeah, especially for religious stuff.
Freaking F that.
I'm sick of that.
It's garbage.
Religious exemptions can eat a toe.
Hey, look at this.
I'm sitting here with my pants.
Are you going to show me a toe to you?
No, but this is weirder.
I've got these pants on.
I haven't worn before.
And they're nice.
I like them.
Kim got them for me.
These is just like kind of orange, almost colored slacks.
I like them.
But I'm pulling at a string, I think, of the thing.
And I pull it out.
Brian, there's an entire length of floss.
It's in my pants.
It's a floss in my pants.
why I don't know
that's bizarre scat
it was way up there I go to pull just the
and I could feel it all the way up my calf
all the way out
butt floss basically is what you're wearing
I don't know I don't like this at all
I'm gonna talk to Kim where'd she get these pants
maybe maybe she was flossing
while she was washing them and folding them
and maybe have they even been through the wash yet
yeah well I think she pre washes everything
she ever buys so I think so okay but I'll
ask. That could have happened in there, right? The wash could have gotten a little piece of floss from a sock that grabbed it on the way to the hamper or whatever. And I got floss pants. Floss pants. Panty floss.
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That's it.
We got to get out, but we can't do it without a song.
Hey, before the song, I was going to say, did major spoilers 1,000 go up yet?
Oh, I don't know if it went up yet, but it did get recorded last night.
And we had a great time.
Stephen was a gracious host, as always.
And those guys have been added for a really long time.
They did kind of like us.
Like, you get to a certain number.
Like, you know how everybody, when you get to 100, you lose your minds and have clip shows and go crazy?
I mean, because most podcasts died before 100.
It's just a fact.
Yeah, it's an important landmark.
You hit it, and then you move on.
well if you move on long enough let's say a thousand episodes
what you end up doing is saying hey it's our thousandth episode
but then you just make an episode right
well that's what they did and it was great
it was nice to be a part of it I really had a good time
and if it's out oh they say it's out so go check it out
of major spoilers. Yeah we had a ball
all right Brian sorry song
no no that's all right I wanted to make sure that got a little plug
all right Dean wrote in it is still
as of yesterday and today it is still
Die de los Mertos, Los Mueros. I can't say it without pulling that quick change clip right there.
So it's appropriate to still play the song. Dean says,
Just Scott and Brian, I was wondering if you could play a cover of this song from one of my favorite films.
Thanks, Signed Dean.
Well, yes, the song is Remember Me from Coco, sung by Ernest de la Cruz.
It's such a good song.
I love it.
It really is.
It makes me want to watch this movie again because I forgot how much I loved it.
And the one that came out that was similar to this at the same year was the Book of Life or the Book of Life. Yeah. I think that's it.
The Book of Life. Yeah, also very good. Yep. This is a little shorty short song. It's only a minute long, but it's lovely. It's Christina Perry from her songs for Carmela Lullabies and Singalongs from 2019. It is Remember Me.
Carmella. Love it. All right. Gobagoole. All right, we're going to do it right now. Enjoy this. We'll be back tomorrow for more. TMS.
Remember me, though I have to say goodbye, remember me, don't let it make you cry, for even if I'm far away, I hold you in my heart, I sing a secret song to you each night we are apart.
Remember me
Though I have to travel far
Remember me
Each time you hear a sad guitar
Know that I'm with you
The only way that I can be
Until you're in my arms again
Remember me
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