The Morning Stream - TMS 2377: Open Carry Chicken!

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Age is Just a Number... and the Slow Degradation of Tissues and Cells. Exceeding the Pun Density Limit. Wither do you wander Mr Michigander. How Scared Should You Be? Tune In Next Tuesday! I mean that... personally, not politically. We Need Pun Control Laws. He's more Kyber than Cover now. Stayed Up 24 Hours - Not in a Row. A Grumpy Old Man Out In Space. The Carolingian Conspiracy. Cluck Cluck BOOM! The plot chickens. Improving Metaphors With Tom. Reccamentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:22 That's a degree better. Explore more than 350-plus undergraduate, graduate and certificate programs at ASUonline.asu.asu.edu. Coming up on TMS, age is just a number and a slow degradation of tissues and cells. Exceeding the pun density limit. Whither do you wander, Mr. Michigander? How scared should you be? Tune in next Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I mean that personally, not politically. We need pun control laws. He's more khyber than cover now. Stayed up 24 hours, not in a row. A grumpy old man out in space. Carolingian conspiracy. Cluck, cluck, boom! The plot chickens.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Improving metaphors with Tom. Recommentals with Randy and more on this episode of the morning stream. It's good stew. Yep. At least there's no animal's heart in the stew. Never the heart. Robot dinosaurs might be useful. You have my authorization.
Starting point is 00:01:17 The morning, the morning stream, your Schwartz is as big as mine. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It is Wednesday, November 9th, 2020. That TMS is short for the morning stream. I'm Scott Johnson, joined today by Bobby Frankenberg. are sitting in for the venerable Brian Ibit, who's on his way to Anaheim, California, again. Gosh. Again! I don't know what he thinks he's doing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Well, I know what he's doing. He's seeing a concert, and then he's going to try to buy some Khyber crystals because he's a huge nerd. What a nerd. He's a huge nerd. But Bobby, thanks for being here again, man. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah, of course. I love being here. And I was just saying in the pre-show that I was feeling weird because I was listening to Elliot Smith which is kind of like depressing sad saddy kind of music but there's nothing like that intro music for the morning
Starting point is 00:02:26 stream to get you hyped oh yeah washed all the Elliot Smith away that was residual on you on your body yeah tell me more about this person is it emo music like I don't even know who this is tell me more about Elliot's someone in the chat room I've never listened to Morrissey but someone in the chat room said that it's that it's very similar to Morrissey
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh, interesting. Okay, I'm looking at him here. Okay, he looks like, uh, uh, the tragic, oh, he died. Yeah, yeah, well, he committed suicide and, um, okay, that's a, that's a really exciting note, uh, to end that story on. But it's, it's really good music. I like sort of like calm, uh, I'm a real fan of like, like, real calm music and contemplative music. It's very contemplative, and sometimes I'm in kind of like the mood to... You ever been in the mood to just feel sad? I don't know if that sounds weird to you, but... No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I think it was a windy topic once where we talked about how that's actually a good thing. And you're supposed to, like, sometimes just let that settle in and it's okay. You have your coping mechanisms. Yours happens to be, let's spin up some Elliot Smith, you know? Yeah, the problem is this morning I wasn't in the mood to feel sad. It was just on, like, a playlist of, like, like, contemplative working music that I had recently put together when I was, I guess, in that kind of a mood. And so I was hit with it. But I like that it's got a unique sound. He does
Starting point is 00:03:54 that thing that musicians do where he records two vocal tracks, identical vocal tracks right on top of each other. You know what I mean? So it gives it kind of a weird like ethereal quality to it sometimes. He has a, there's a note here on this Wikipedia page that says his distinctive vocal style characterized by his whispery spider web thin delivery and often using multi-tracking to create vocal layers, textures, and harmonies.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, yeah. There he is. So I like it. It sounds great. If you're in that kind of a mood, I recommend it. He was only 24. There's only 34, that's too young to go. Yeah. He would be now, hold on, that was 03. So in 2013,
Starting point is 00:04:39 he would have been 43. Hold on, this guy's my age. oh my gosh he's almost exactly my age one month difference weird are you that are you do you like to know like how old people are because you want to because that's how I am I like to know how old people are and I get in trouble asking how old people are all the time I do it all the time yeah because I like to sort of like I don't know it's a weird thing with me it's like you and and dead people it's me and um I like to anchor myself in relation to their timeline and I get really excited when someone is like within a year of my age. Sure. Sure. No, I know that feeling.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, I don't know why, especially if it's somebody in a, you know, someone famous. Like, I don't see people at the store and go, excuse me. Can I find out how old you are? Well, not random people I don't know, but I definitely still ask people that I do know all the time how old they are. And like I said, apparently, apparently it's still a thing that people don't like you to ask how old they are. Do you know what phrase I hate? Almost more than anything else in this world, it's this phrase. it's um age is just a number because it's not it's also the slow degradation of tissue and cells and the eventual uh getting tired your back hurts stuff man it ain't just a number it's a it's a it's just a number in so much as like any measurement is just a number it's a number that measures
Starting point is 00:06:03 how how how long you've been alive and um maybe how much time you have left yeah it's a gauge of things It's not just a freaking number. I hate that. It tries me nuts when people say that. I understand what they're trying to say. They're trying to say, you don't need to be, your day doesn't need to be determined by this arbitrary thing
Starting point is 00:06:22 that people think is old or young or whatever it may be. No, I know what you're saying. But go say it's a different way. Say it differently. Like when people say you're as old as you feel like you are or as you think you are, I agree with that. You can, you know, if you feel young, you probably, you know, that's what matters.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's what happens. Last night, I got completely absorbed and hooked on this new video game I will talk about in length on core this week. But I've been after these like vampire survivor like games. That game is a big hit on Steam and is headed everywhere else. I think Xbox gets it soon. But it's, you know, a little rudimentary in terms of like presentation. It's like they literally took old sprites from Castlevania games and used them in the game. So it's just a little dirty and crusty and it's fine. It's a good game. It's amazing because it ends up, it ended up spotting all these, not rip-offs, but these sort of, you know, it's like any other huge hit, Minecraft or something. It's like, oh, now there's a million like these. And then they've all got their own little twist to things. And anyway, I've been kind of on a hunt to find my favorite. And I think I may have found it. Brotato was my favorite. Still kind of is. We're right up there together. But this new one's called Soulstone Survivors. They even put a Survivors in there. But it's the first one I've played that's fully 3D, like modern engine, physics, particle effects, like all that stuff. And it's a dopamine factory. And I played this thing until 2. And then I tried to sleep. And it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So age isn't just a number. All right? Sometimes it's your brain is effed by what you did for four hours before. Yeah, because you used to be able to stay up until 2 and then get up at six or six. seven and be fine. Yeah, I was like nothing. Oh, I had three hours of sleep. That's fine. That's fuel enough for my day. No, man. Yeah. I remember having a contest one time with my friends. We were like, we're just going to see how long we can stay up and we could like, made it like 40 something hours. And we were in college. And I, just the thought of staying up like 24 hours now.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Oh my gosh, dude. That's why I'll never commit to like a marathon for charity or something. I can't do it. Oh yeah. We used to do this with the Shadowcasters network that I used to I used to run the tabletop gaming media thing that I did and we would do a fundraiser sort of like a fundraiser drive for the raise some money for the for the business every year and and we would give part of it away to charity and but that's not the important thing. What it was was it was um we would do a 36 hour streamathon. Yeah. And that was... That's a lot. And again...
Starting point is 00:09:15 No, fortunately, it was many of us, so not all of us had to stay up for the whole 36 hours, but most of us were up for... Out of those 36 hours, we were probably up at least, you know, I was up at least like 30 of it. It's a young man's game, is what we're getting at here. Yeah. I get it. And if you can do that, if you can do a 24-hour game-a-thon and make bunch of money for children's networks or whatever you do that's great yeah hats off to you i am no longer capable of such things okay but soulstone survivors is good huh oh it's so good and it's it's uh it's early access 10 bucks so it's cheap um although it's about five bucks more than most
Starting point is 00:09:55 of these but it this one this one really is a bigger production so deeper meta game deeper systems um cool uh tons of characters unlock all this cool stuff and i love the engine the music's really good something i always pay attention to it's rad so check it out everybody and it plays on so and it doesn't say it's steam deck certified because it's brand new but it totally works 100% flawlessly on my steam deck so well you know i'm a steam decker you are a steam decker the upper steam decker all right uh i got a quick science text that i'd like to read before we bring in done away and have some fun uh because bobby made a game you guys uh you know not a video game but a you know a trivia game uh because brian's not here but we're still going to do it today so
Starting point is 00:10:37 stick around for that. But in the meantime, here is a text that we got. Let me see if I can find where the frick this is. There we go. This is from Ryan from Michigan. And over there they call them Michiganers. Michiganers. Michiganers. Michiganers. I don't know. Michiganans. Michiganians. That's even better. It says TMS Bobby science suggestion with the recent asteroid coming very close to Earth. It might be fun subject to talk about near Earth objects and the Terino scale. So is that interesting to you at all as a thing, is a topic? Grand Torino scale. It's just a grumpy old man out in space. Is that what that is? That's great. He's just yelling at asteroids to get off our lawn.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I feel bad. I've never seen Grand Torino. I always hear it's one to see and I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen it either. Can't speak to it. So take our jokes about this movie that we haven't seen for what they're worth. Yeah, virtually nothing. But what do you think of that?
Starting point is 00:11:39 The Tarino scale is, is, it's interesting in that it's, it's, in, in how it, how it gauges a threat level of an asteroid. So it's from like zero to ten, zero being not a threat, and ten being, we're all going to die. Sounds like, is like a DefCon kind of scale? Is that the deal? Well, I think, I mean, I don't know. DefCon is just used. for a totally different sort of thing
Starting point is 00:12:08 and it's I think goes in the opposite direction so but this is it's calculated based on the size of the potential of the near earth object they don't call them asteroids because some could be
Starting point is 00:12:22 meteors, asteroids, comets, whatever they call them near earth objects they look at the size of it and based on the size of it they can determine the kinetic energy that it will that it has Like if its impact is 5 million atomic bombs or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Like megatons, yeah, megatons of energy. Right. And so then they use that and they cross-check it with the probability that it will actually hit the Earth. And then wherever it falls on this, it's sort of like, you know, you find on one axis, you find the energy that it carries. And then on the other axis, you go over to how likely is it to hit the Earth. and then you find a threat level, you know? Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:13:11 If one of these things big enough to do, let's say, 5,000 megatons or, you know, capable of an extinction level event type impact on the planet. And let's say it happened on the exact opposite of where I'm sitting. Let's wherever that is. I don't know what that is, somewhere in China or something. But the exact opposite, like polar opposite of where Scott is sitting today. it hits over there. How long till I feel it?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Oh my gosh. Do I have a minute? Do I have five minutes? Do I have like an hour, a day? I don't know how that travels. I don't get it. So 5,000 megatons, and you said like it's guaranteed to hit? Because you said it hit.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah, let's say it's guaranteed to hit and smack dab across the earth from me is where it lands. The other side of the circumference is where it lands. Yeah. 5,000 megatons. gives it a nine out of ten on this scale. Oh, my Lord. And it means it's capable of causing unprecedented regional devastation for a land impact or the threat of a major tsunami for an ocean impact.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Such events occur on average between once per 10,000 years and once per 100,000 years. So it's not even outside the range of... That's not even in the millions. Yeah, people win lotteries with harder odds than that. I don't like that. I would guess, I don't know, that's the funny thing, is the scale doesn't actually tell you how much damage it will do. It just says how much of a threat is it.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Okay. So I might be okay is what you're saying, maybe. I mean, there's going to be an economic impact. There's going to be a billion other things that happen as a result. We may even have, you know, Utah's pretty landlocked. You know, maybe we have, we become oceanfront property at that point. I don't know. But the point is, like, it is possible if you're on the other side of that, that you might,
Starting point is 00:15:14 you might be all right, that the Armageddon, you know, Bruce Willis couldn't save us for whatever reason and now hit hits. Everyone dies except those who are on the opposite end of the hit, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. That would be a fun thing to explore, though, is different sizes and where they hit in relation to us and what kind of. of things that they would do. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll look into that and it might be a fun thing to talk about next Tuesday when I come on. Yeah. And that'll give you some time for a little research.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I like it. So there you go. Preview, guys. A little teaser. We're going to talk about how scared you should be. Yeah. How scared should you be? Tune in next Tuesday for more. That was link bait. That's okay, though. We're happy to link bait when we need to. Let's get Brian done away up here and in it because today it's contest day. And I'm going to have a fun way of who's going to win this. So I'll explain that in a second. But before I do, here's this. Ladies and gentlemen, also in South Carolina today, we got, that's weird having you both from there. Anyway, it's Brian Dunaway. Hi, Brian Dunaway. What's going on? Why is that weird? Oh, hi, Scott and Bobby. Yeah, how's it going? Hey, how far are you apart from each other?
Starting point is 00:16:27 You guys are like, if you had to drive to each other's house, what are we talking here? Like an hour? Two hours, actually knowing about two hours, yeah, I'm trying to think, yeah, probably about two hours. Columbia, too. Yeah, well, maybe not the way I drive. So it's probably about an hour and a half. Okay. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Look at you. If we're being honest, it's going to how close you are to, yeah, how close are you to 26? Yeah. See, Bobby knows. Bobby knows. Hold on a second. That's how 26 is.
Starting point is 00:16:56 How 26 is what? You're like main, it's like R.I.15 kind of thing. it's like the interstate the interstate it is the interstate and it's the it's the it's the best place to go sit for two hours if somebody has an accident because it doesn't move yeah ever yeah yeah slow and poopy Although if I'm to brag about living where I live in the state, we have, Brian, we have three interstates here in Columbia? What? Oh. What?
Starting point is 00:17:22 That's true. That's true. You probably have the one that if I got on I-15 and drove east, I would eventually hit whatever that is, one of your interstates is what would happen. We'd split off at some point. You'd have to change. We don't have 15 come through here. No, but I'd have to, I'd split off into whatever does come through there, right?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Like there'd be some fork somewhere. If you wanted to make it here, yeah. If you want to actually get here. I just don't want any back roads and like weird, you know, harmonica playing, hey, what are you looking for, boy? I don't want to get that. First of all, that doesn't exist in South Carolina. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:58 That's all make-believe God. And you're thinking of Georgia. Whatever. Yeah. Hey, I got a thing to say about your sitting senator, Lindsay Graham. Please don't. No, here it is. I have to share it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I think, this is not political at all. I bet what I'm going to say. I always like to think what certain people of, like, notable people in public smell like. I think Lindsey Graham smells like room temperature tapioca pudding. Right. That's not a political statement. That is a personal attack, and I agree with you. I mean, no matter what side you're on, on the fence of Republican and Democrat, you can't
Starting point is 00:18:36 look at Lindsey Graham and go, that's a good choice. It's got to be on the issues, right? It can't be because of anything else. No, but also he smells like pudding, is my point. All right, hey, look at this. You're here. We're going to play a game now. How it's going to work everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Bobby will explain how the game works and all that. But what I'm going to do is Brian and I are both going to choose somebody at random in the chat room that we want to play for. All right? So this is a little bit weird. We haven't done this way before, but we're going to do this. So I'm going to choose, for example, Ida bloke is going to be my surrogate, or I'll be his surrogate here in the game. Brian Dunaway, you just got to pick a, pick somebody in there.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Doesn't matter who. Pick your favorite. You can be your favorite. It can be random. I don't care. Whatever. I don't want to do a favorite. I'm going to do random. I'm closing my eyes. I'm going to have my finger on the screen. I'm going to open it. Whoever is there is the person is Anna Annika Karagabatatatau. How do you say? I'm going to pick somebody else. I can't say that. Larry Kenobi. Larry Kenobi. All right. Larry Canobe. Everyone remembers Larry Kenobi. Let's do that. You know, Karapakatatau is regretting their screen name choice now. Yeah, nicely done.
Starting point is 00:19:46 So I got Ida bloke. You got Larry Canobi, one of the lost Kenobi brothers, and we're going to have them be the potential winners of Book of Demons on Steam. This is one of my favorite weird indie titles on Steam. I think we talked about it back on the Boop Show in the day. It's an amazing weird kind of like, I don't even know what to compare it to. It's like Diablo, but with a whole different way of playing. It's very, very odd, one of my favorites. And also, I doubt anyone has it because it was really under the radar.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But it's a great little sleeper hit, Book of Demons, free on Steam. We'll see how we do. All right, Bobby, how's this game going to work? What are we doing? We're going to play another instance of, we're going to call it science or not. Oh, science. All right. So the idea here is I'm going to give Scott and Brian,
Starting point is 00:20:39 some statements that may be true or false, you know, science or not, and you have to decide who it is. So my thought is the way we do this is you just take turns and you have to decide whether or not it's science, but a little twist to it would be that the other person
Starting point is 00:20:57 can try to, based on their own knowledge, does not have to keep their mouth shut. You can try to sway your opponents. Oh, I like this. These are tricky. These are tricky, so you've got to consider, that the other person who's trying to sway you might not
Starting point is 00:21:13 actually, you know, they're probably swaying you in what they think is to the wrong direction, but they might not actually know the real answer. Yeah, so this instead of... What a true reflection of society today. Yeah, no kidding. Exactly. No kidding. This is like,
Starting point is 00:21:29 instead of phone a friend, this is phone a fiend, is what this is. Exactly. All right, let's try it. Maybe that's the name of this game. Phone of fiends. All right, we'll see. how this goes. This might end terribly, but you know what? Who cares? It doesn't matter. Who cares? Someone went the game. That's what matters. All right, go.
Starting point is 00:21:47 All right, here we go. So, first question is going to be for Brian, because he's from South Carolina. All right, fair enough. Yes, bias. Agreed. So, Brian, representing someone in the chat room whose name I can't remember. Larry Canobe. Larry Canobe. Larry Canobe. Here's the statement. You have to decide whether it's true or false. Of all the major types of ecosystems on Earth, like forests, grasslands, deserts, tundra, freshwater, and marine, forests produce the majority of Earth's oxygen, with the rainforest alone being responsible for 20% of the total oxygen on Earth. So is that science fact or science fiction, Brian? Is that true or false? Science fact or science fiction? Well, if Fern Gully taught me anything and it didn't. Let's see. I haven't thought of fern gully in about 20 years.
Starting point is 00:22:43 That's amazing. Nice, nice poll. That's, that's too bad. That's too bad. So my options were the forest. And what was the other, what's the other, what's the other? Well, you're not picking, you're not picking which one. You're saying is the statement that.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Oh, I'm trying to pick. He, he, because he's, his statement is the forest is responsible for that huge amount of it, like the vast majority. Is that true or is something else to it? Yeah. Uh, uh, I, you, it would, you would think it'd be true, because it feels like it'd be true. And you watch Ferengully and you're about to go watch Avatar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But as you know, probably is, is false. So false is your answer. I have no way, I have no idea which way to steer him because I'm not actually sure either. Well, false is his answer. You lost your chance anyway, Scott. And the answer is false. You are correct. Nice.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Well done, Brian. So that, that's right. Um, the forest is so small. Well, it's commonly thought that the forest, like forests and trees and everything, produce a ton of oxygen, and they do. But marine ecosystems, the oceans and seas and everything, produce the majority of oxygen in the world. In fact, it's estimated 50 to 70%. So where's that coming from? Is that coming from sea, like plant life in the sea?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah, there's a lot of plant life in the sea. Plankton, seaweed, all sorts of stuff. Okay. See, we got that South Carolina education. We went to the same schools. You're screwed, Scott. Oh, man, I am screwed. Utah just taught me that...
Starting point is 00:24:12 And the oceans are also really big. Yeah, they are big, right? They're vast. Like you said, Brian, the forests aren't that big. Yeah. No, not a comparison. The oceans are vast, is what they like to say. They're vast.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, they're vast. All right, Scott, you're ready for one? Yeah. Here we go. Stomach acid is so strong that it can dissolve bones and even metal. Oh This is a boy Bones and metal
Starting point is 00:24:42 Metal bone Yeah it also Maybe even your metal bones Is there a metal Is there a specific metal That we're talking about here I guess I can't It's probably supposed to be general for a reason
Starting point is 00:24:57 That's a little too granular Yeah Because that makes me think Possibly it could It could affect something like aluminum But I don't know sorry, British people, aluminum. Or...
Starting point is 00:25:08 Have you ever tried to eat the bone in with the chicken and just keep the bone in all the way down? Yeah. I have done that. Yeah. Don't let your dog do it. You know what? That actually helps me at this answer. I'm going to say false.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It's not strong enough because dogs and stuff aren't supposed to eat chicken bones. And if they could, they would just... If it wasn't a problem, their stomachs would just eat it up, but they don't because it's a problem. So I don't... I say no. False. All right. Your answer is false.
Starting point is 00:25:35 False? Well, the real answer is true. Ah, damn it. Yes. Of course it can, Scott. It's all right. Of course it can't. Keep that stuff on the inside. So the reason that dogs aren't supposed to eat chicken bones is because they could choke on it. Yeah. Odge in their throat. Exactly. Hydrochloric acid is the name of the acid that's in your stomach.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It has a pH of between 1 and 2, which is almost as low as it can get, almost as acidic as something can get. Wow. And you might be wondering, how then does it not eat through your stomach if it can eat through metal and bone? Right. And it's because your body produces a mucus and a bicarbonate inside of it that helps to protect the inside of your stomach. Yeah, it's a weird. It's wild, isn't it, that we have that? It's totally nice to me.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Your body is a wonderland. It is a wonderland. Come explore it. Here, this is the thing. I feel like if there's a time factor. here because in my head I'm thinking you know you see somebody with hydrochloric acid in the video or something and they drop a penny in there and it immediately just starts to corrode it feels like that's true in your in your scenario here with stomach acid and a bone but it's a slower process
Starting point is 00:26:48 otherwise dogs could eat the bones and they would disintegrate before they got to be a problem or even humans certainly as a slow process like you're not going to swallow a penny and then it just get dissolved before you poop it out right no in fact I've right I've well I'll admit to this when I was a kid I swallowed a quarter they freaked out because I thought I was going to choke on it I know as a big old freaking maybe it's why my head's so big I don't know
Starting point is 00:27:13 Save this for later To Ching got next I said and Put it in my throat and swallowed it And then I and then later Two hours later Or however long it was Out came the quarter And I won't say in what condition
Starting point is 00:27:28 Excellent this is great All right so Brian you're up by one here It's one to zero Yep One to zero. All right, I'll try to even the odds a little bit here. I've got one that maybe might put Brian at a disadvantage and Scott at an advantage. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, ready. It's a tricksy question, I got you. Here we go, ready? Despite other states having famous deserts like the Mojave in California and the Red Desert in Wyoming, Utah is the driest state in the United States with an average rainfall of only 11 inches. I can tell you that this is... This is for Brian, but Scott can try to say you sway you. You can, you can sway me.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm going to tell you right now, there's no way, given how hot, like, other parts, like parts of Arizona and stuff. There's no way. Right, right. Now, I lived in Arizona for a short time. Yeah, you did. Back in the early 2000s. Yeah. And we have no deserts that I'm aware of in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:28:30 you'll probably say sure there is Brian there's a tiny one over and whatever but I'm going to say Scott is full of crap and it's true boom is that true all right you're saying it's true that it's super dry in Utah I've seen I've seen yeah I've seen Scott he's he's very dry I only can imagine that it's because of I'm very flaky yeah I'm very flaky skin yeah yeah yeah I mean you know just because it's hot somewhere doesn't mean it's it's uh it's dry right that's true right right you know admittedly i'm brian and brian's been to utah a couple of times it's not um it's very uh not humid here we just don't get humid yeah so well the answer is yeah yeah the answer is that that
Starting point is 00:29:19 statement is false ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that i knew it was false but i thought you might think i was trying to deter you so i used your weird rule to exactly how it was meant you There you go. I love the strategic thinking. Yeah, I knew that this wasn't true. Is it Arizona, though? Because I actually don't know. Nope. So Utah is actually the second driest state in the country with an average rainfall of, yes, 11 inches.
Starting point is 00:29:44 But Nevada is drier by just a few percentage points of or just a few decimal places, 10.3 inches of average drainfall in Nevada. Yeah. Now, if you're saying alcohol use, I can promise you Nevada is very wet. Oh. And we are very dry here. So yes. I should have clarified. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:07 No, that's cool. So I actually didn't know we were number two. That surprised me a little bit. There's an average of 300. There's an average of 300 sunny days per year in Utah. Really? That sounds about right. I mean, today we're very wet, rainy, and cold, but it's supposed to be sunny tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And somehow 32 degrees all day. But it's still very cold. It's still very dry. The U.S. average is 38 inches of rainfall a year. South Carolina gets 50 inches of rainfall a year. Yeah, we're like, it's like swampy down here, man. Every time we walk outside, it's like, God, why so much humidity? Some of that is just people being confused at how much water is in the air.
Starting point is 00:30:50 They think it's raining. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, when I was in Mississippi, I felt like that every day. You'd take a shower. You'd walk outside and go, why did I even bother? What was the point? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I guess I'm clean, but I'm still wet. I've looked at the weather before and saw 100% humidity and I'm like, oh, then it's raining. No, it's just that humid outside. Yeah, right. It feels like it's raining. Yeah. You poor people. All right, moving on.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Let's flip the tables a little bit or switch them around or whatever the saying is and do one about that Scott might be at a distance. Wait, does that mean I got a point or I didn't get a point? You got a point? No. No. No, wait. You just didn't get a point. I just didn't get a point.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Meaning Brian's still one. I'm still zero. You helped prevent Brian from. There we go. Okay. Now's my chance to tie. You grab me by the ankles and help me down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Right. Brian is still in the lead with one point and you have zero. All right. Here we go. Ready? Venus fly traps, arguably the poster child of the carnivorous plant world, is native only to the Carolinas. Cincinnati. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. Cincinnati. A few of you will get to. that joke. Venus flytrap is local to Cincinnati. Come on. Somebody got that joke. Right? I did not. Has nobody seen
Starting point is 00:32:08 WKRP in Cincinnati? Nobody? WKRP in Cincinnati. Oh, Lord. Oh, my God. The turkeys are coming down. Yeah. Before my time. Before my time. Yeah. No, wait. So Venus flytrap, the flowers or the plant.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's a carnivorous plant. It's the one that you know, it's got the teeth. Then I have one right here. Native to the Carolinas, native to South Carolina? Native, not just to the Carolinas, but only to the Carolinas. Oh, my gosh. And I have one right here, Scott. You want to see it?
Starting point is 00:32:40 No. They freak me out. I don't like them. Is that true or false? Oh, they totally freak me out. Name another plant that's that weird, man. It's like, oh, hey, I'm out, just a plant. Come on over.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And a little bug gets inside. It's just mostly bugs. Come on. I don't mean that. I don't mean it's gross. I mean, it's just, that plants, it's got a thought. It's like a little, I mean, it doesn't, but it's got, you know what I mean? It's a creature that's got movement.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You watch too many little shop of horrors. That's freaky to me. Um, okay. Feed me, Scott. Those two, there's no way. You know what? I'm going to say no way. It's got to be some other.
Starting point is 00:33:19 South America, somebody somewhere else has got these things. So I'm saying no. It's not native there. All right. You're saying false. well the answer is true damn it sorry Scott
Starting point is 00:33:33 really yep they are only native to a part of the world that is that goes between North Carolina and South Carolina it's a small part right outside of Myrtle Beach
Starting point is 00:33:46 and it's got a there's a nutrient poor acidic soil there that supports Venus fly traps so it's very rare it's the only place in the world where they grow In fact, it's illegal to pick them in the wild. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. Well. It's a Class H felony in North Carolina, in fact. You can get up to 25 months in prison if you do it. Oh, my gosh. Are they? Wow. I didn't know it was that serious.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Are they? Well, that's because in South Carolina, we only give you like five to 30 days. Oh, yeah. Are they endangered or something? That's what I would expect. Are they endangered? Is that the deal? They're not endangered.
Starting point is 00:34:23 They're just rare. Yeah. So they're just trying to. They're just trying to protect the fact that they only live naturally, natively, here. But you can get, like, a permit to collect them from private lands, but not public parks or anything like that. That's wild to me. All right. I feel like this was all worth it because I learned something, even though I didn't get a point.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Well, that's the point, right? Yeah, that is the point. Education. All right. Brian, your turn. What do you got for him? He's winning, by the way. We've got to do one more each to even things out, right?
Starting point is 00:34:53 You've got to do. We started with Brian, so we got to end with. Scott, so one more each. You ready? This is your last chance to get a point, Scott. Okay. All right, so Brian, here's, here we go, ready? There are true or false.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Let's go, buddy. Oh, and by the way, if I make it, if I get it right, then we have to do a tiebreaker after that because we'll be one. I have a tiebreaker ready if it happens. Okay, go for it. All right. So true or false, Brian, there are more trees on Earth than there are stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
Starting point is 00:35:26 The Milky Way galaxy Is it? I don't even want to direct him Because I think I'll accidentally get him right I'm not doing it This is, you're on your own here, dude Trying to think There
Starting point is 00:35:48 Raise that question more times So there are more trees Where? On Earth There are more trees on Earth There are more trees on Earth, Mars, Venus, and Saturn together. Now you're just trying to make it confusing. There are more trees on Earth than there are stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, correct? That's the statement.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Right. I think if you said like the whole thing, definitely not, but just the Milky Way Galaxy, oh god I don't know I don't know that it's really hard to think in large numbers like this isn't it it really is
Starting point is 00:36:32 I love this stuff though I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that it's true it's got it's true right because I'm just trying to think of all the little saplings and everything else yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:36:47 so you say true Brian says true Milky Way galaxy doesn't have as, it has a lot of stars, tons. But, but, I can't think of that. You're right, Bobby, I can't think of that terms. I'm going to say that there's more trees than the stars. All right. Well, the answer is true.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Damn it. You got it right. That is true. You're rat bastard. You got it right. Estimates are that there are 400 billion stars. in the Milky Way galaxy. But there are, by, by best estimates scientists have,
Starting point is 00:37:28 there are three trillion trees on Earth. Oh my gosh. Wow. There's a lot of trees, dude. Because you're thinking of all the big trees, right? Well, big trees, little trees, all trees. You know what? Trees are freaking everywhere. You're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like, they're everywhere. They still can't produce as much oxygen as the oceans, though. Yeah, that's true. So despite all of that, that's crazy all right I love that I love that the amount
Starting point is 00:37:54 of trees on earth doesn't increase if you include other planets within our system I think that's great that's hilarious sorry for them sorry Mars
Starting point is 00:38:03 well that means that Brian won and that means his winner Larry Canobe wins this copy of Book of Demons Larry Canobi I'm going to send you
Starting point is 00:38:12 a private message in the thing let's see where are you you're right there how do I do that there it is a whisper I'm going to send you a whisper with your code directly through Twitch
Starting point is 00:38:23 so you can go enjoy your code right now. It's sent. You send me a little thanks or something to let me know you got it. You don't have to say thanks. You can say whatever you want. You don't have to think. You better be polite. Yeah, you don't have to be polite. But you won. Congratulations. Brian Dunaway, well done, dude. Look at you with your funky
Starting point is 00:38:39 business. You did it. Nice job. Yeah, which is good because I needed a win. I keep losing the half-asses so maybe at least I could win this. Yeah. We'll make more of these. I definitely did not skew it in favor of my South Carolina brother. No, of course not. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I'll catch you later, Bobby, for lunch. Yeah, two hours later. Here, by the way, is what you get. Congratulations. You're a winner. Scott Fletcher had to have his say, and you are truly a winner today. Check out last night's play retro episode. We did it all about the 18-bit era of wrestling games and had a blast doing it.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And this weekend, we're also doing a film sack, which Brian is also a part of, we are doing, I forgot. Oh, Westworld, the movie Westworld. Yes, World with Yule Brenner. Yul Brenner, the 70s thing, the Michael Crichton screenplay, all of that. That's coming up this week. Brian Dunaway, kiss our butts. See ya.
Starting point is 00:39:36 No, you. Oh, he got it in, damn it. Well, what are you going to do? All right. We have enough time, Bobby, for one news story. Thank goodness. I know. And it goes like this.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Today's news is brought to you by All Around Science. Bobby, tell me about that podcast and where people can get it. All Around Science is the podcast I do with my esteemed co-host, Mora, and we talk about science every week, just all sorts of fun, exciting things about science. People email us or call us with questions about science. We answer them all the time. So we do that. Episodes come out on Mondays.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But, you know, the day's episodes come out don't really matter. People say that, but what does it matter? You can download it any time you want. It's called All Around Science. Yeah, there it is. Go get it. It's wherever you get your podcast, as we always say here on the show. Let's get to this story here about a Florida traveler.
Starting point is 00:40:37 All right, not a Florida man, but a Florida traveler stuffed his gun into a raw chicken and tried to bring it on the plane. Mm. You know, I've heard of people doing this. Just like, uh-oh, I have them with this gun. I need to get it on the plane. What's around me? A chicken. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I've heard of people doing this where they'll take, like, they're, I don't know, their weed pen, their E-pen weed thing, which is not legal to travel state to state with. Put it in their, like, makeup bag. So it looks like a little, just another eyeliner, another lipsticky thing, whatever. They just kind of hide it in there. They sort of get away with it. Maybe that's what he thought he was doing here. It's like. Maybe he thought they would confuse the gun with, like, the wist.
Starting point is 00:41:19 fishbone. Yeah. Maybe. But they're just like, hey, I got to hide this gun. Where should I put it? Raw chicken. Seems like a bad idea. Anyway, perspective.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Was it like a whole chicken? I guess, yeah, continue. I'll continue on. Perspective Air Traveler was roasted by the, get it, roasted. Oh, boy. By the Transportation Security Administration. That's TSA for short. On social media on Monday, after officers from the federal agency said it caught a person
Starting point is 00:41:43 trying to conceal a gun inside a raw chicken, stashed in their carry-on luggage. The weapon was flagged by TSA at 4. Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood Airport in Florida, where, let's see, officers found it wrapped in what looked like thin paper, some sort of packaging and hidden it inside the raw chicken. So they don't actually get into where in the chicken. It's got to be right up through the bung hole or the neck hole.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Are you allowed to have raw chicken in your luggage? No, see, this is where the problem. This is where I have a problem. It's not that they can or can't. it's that if it's if it's gone bad it's not in a refrigerated state i don't think you're i don't think you're allowed they probably have some guidelines you know i just looked up on the tsa dot gov and they say that um meat seafood and other non-liquid food items are permitted on both your carry-on and checked bags really as long as it's packed with ice or ice packs in a cooler or other
Starting point is 00:42:41 container yeah he didn't do that uh he did have it in his carry-on luggage So let's see. It was a raw chicken. Posted on da-da. The Instagram account Monday showed photos of the uncooked bird being examined in an airport security area and the gun once it was removed and unwrapped. There's a personal foul here, says the post. That's pretty great. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:43:04 The plot chickens as we barrel our way closer to Thanksgiving, they said. Get it? The plot chickens. I do think it. It says, for us, it's a time to be thankful that our officers are always working around. the cluck to keep you safe. Take for instance... I think there needs to be a density limit
Starting point is 00:43:22 for puns in... They've exceeded it already, in my opinion. Yeah, like, I don't mind a lot of puns. Like, this many puns is fine, actually. Spread it out, though. The very next sentence, they said, take this for instance, this hen you believe it?
Starting point is 00:43:38 Get it? Hen you believe it? That's a... Just changing one word that sounds like another word, that's a lazy pun. Like, I need... Yeah. Well, here it gets worse. We hate to beak it to you here. Oh, I hate that one. What is that even supposed to? We hate to, oh, break it. Yeah, break it. I hate to break it to you, but instead beak it to you. But stuffing a firearm in your holiday bird for travel is just bad based. Sorry, is just a base of time.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You see? This idea wasn't even half baked. It was raw, greasy and obviously unsupervised. The only roast happening here. is this poor packed choice, packing choice, rather. The caption continued, adding, feather you like it or not. Jesus. These are the rules for traveling with guns and ammunition. All right. So that's all they said, and it's super dumb,
Starting point is 00:44:31 and I'm glad we talked about it. It's fantastic news. I like puns. I do too, but I don't like him in rapid succession like this. Yeah, this, and I'm always trying to defend the pun. but the person who wrote this is making it really hard much like guns i think we should probably have tighter restrictions on rapid fire pun capabilities you know like if you if you can shoot out that many puns at once that's too much it's too much you need to be able to like you have to
Starting point is 00:45:04 go through extra you know security to get one of those i think anyway it's real dumb i'm glad we shared it now we can move on to take our break when we come back It's going to be a little time spent with Tom Merritt. We're going to see what's going on in the world of tech today, and he'll be the one bringing it. So stick around for that. We've got recommendals after that. I know at least Randy will be here. I've got a recommendal.
Starting point is 00:45:26 You may have something to recommend. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Ooh, another clickbait. Stay tuned and find out on this episode. Anyway, so that's coming up in a second. Before that, we're going to take a quick song break.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Brian, very kindly, put together all the song stuff. me before he left so I knew what was going on and our first song that we're going to play today is an indie in the middle as it often is and this was sent to him via let's see who are the folks that send him this this is p ias i'm not sure oh play it again sam records i guess something like that anyway yeah that's what it is uh corolla dust has a new single called red light and uh this is part of their upcoming album violet drive out on february 7th 17th, 17th, rather, 2023. So this is early release for this thing. The Berlin-based British band formed in London. And now they're in Berlin, which I don't know. Sounds like World War II
Starting point is 00:46:25 stuff to me, but whatever. This song was inspired by, let's see, by this very long playlist of Cuban music. So you kind of know what you're in for here. Anyway, I'm going to play it now. When we come back, Tom Merritt. So stick around everybody. We'll be right back. and they're all insane One further down And another for the day Future's better with a rooftop view I'm gonna make it shine
Starting point is 00:47:03 In the palm of a plastic pool I'm gonna change my name To the one they gave me I'm gonna change my name to the one that leaves me I'm gonna change my name into yours I'm gonna change my name to the one that leaves me as if it's easier to lose Easy to change.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Red lefty kissing, they're all insane. and state Future's better With the wrong you choose I'm going to make it shine in the palm of a plastic pool I'm going to change my name to the one they gave me
Starting point is 00:48:35 I'm going to change my name to the one that leaves me I'm gonna change my name into yours I'm gonna change my name to the one that leaves me as if it's easier to move Easier to move Easier to move Easy to lose.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Easy to lose. Easy to lose. I'm going to change my name to. the one they gave me i'm gonna change my name to the one that leaves me i'm gonna change my name into yours i'm gonna change my name to the one that leaves me as if it's easier to do We don't want to be it's easy to do. We don't want this to end in a toxicified garbage pit ruled by Nazis. of those babies
Starting point is 00:50:43 The morning If I tilt my head to the side I sound better And we're back That song once again was Red Light Via, let's see Kerala, I hope I'm saying that right
Starting point is 00:51:09 Kerala Dust is the band and thanks again to play it again, Sam Records, and Coverville, aka Brian Ibitt, for giving me that thing so I could do it. All right. It's time for us to call Tom. I think Bobby went to take a peep break. He disappeared.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I don't know where he went. But it's okay, because moving forward is never going backwards. And going backwards is not what we're interested in here on the show. So let's do this. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Tom Merritt, he is the Lord of Tech, damn it. And he's here to talk to us about it. Hi, Tom, how are you? Yes, it's a hereditary office. Lord of Tech. Yeah. And well, I'm glad because if it were, I mean, you may have had a real long night last night if it had to be electorate type stuff, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:57 We don't want to have to vote for Lord of Tech. So I'm happy to see that, you know, continue with you and then you'll pass it down when your time is up to whoever you see fit. Right? I realize that my hair is all messy. Like a proper lord with messy hair messy hair lord yeah yeah that's my lordly hair yeah you don't have to worry about
Starting point is 00:52:17 how your hair looks yeah you're tom merit damn it anyway you've got titles uh yeah you have titles and lands probably right and you hold court things like that many hats yeah there you go a hat'll take care of everything that's my motto uh anyway tom merit here to talk about tech it's the daily tech news show's own tom merit and there's probably stuff floating around today about already about what we're going to talk about today on that show what's going on I have a little bad news for Apple fans. Some researchers at Misk, Tommy Misk and Talon Hajbokri, have found pretty well-documented evidence that Apple is sending tracking info about your usage of Apple apps to itself. So let's set the boundaries here.
Starting point is 00:53:02 This is not third party. This is not them sharing data with advertisers. this is sending tracking data to themselves about your usage of Apple apps, not of third-party apps, of the App Store, music, Apple TV, books, and stocks, even if you have iPhone analytics turned off. And that's the key. An operating system, you know, collecting analytics is day rigour. Windows has been doing it for decades, right?
Starting point is 00:53:32 You get those pop-ups like, is it okay to send this day? data for troubleshooting purposes, and people say yes or no when they install Windows, Apple has an analytics setting that says, when you turn it off, it will disable the sharing of device analytics altogether. But these researchers found that even with that and personalized advertising and all the collection settings they could find off, that there is data about what you're tapping on, what you're searching, how long you look at a page being sent to an address at Apple.com that has analytics in the name. One idea could be like, well, maybe this is sinking things, sinking behavior for ICloud, but it is separate from the things that are sent to
Starting point is 00:54:23 ICloud to do the sinking. They did their due diligence. It's a good report. They first used a jail broken iPhone running 14.6 so they could decrypt the traffic and see what was in it. That way they could say like, oh, okay, yeah, it's logging your taps and your search results and device IDs and all of that. Then they studied an iOS 16 stock to see what it was doing. Because it wasn't jailbreak, it broke, and they couldn't decrypt the packets, but they were able to see that the same kinds of packets are sent at the same kinds of times because of the same kinds of actions.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So you can correlate that and say, well, it's likely that's containing the same kind of information. Gizmodo has a report on this. They sort of asked these folks to do a little extra work and Apple has not yet responded on this. It's not great. It's not a great look. It's not the worst thing in the world for Apple to collect something about how you use the Apple phone. It is bad to say, we gave you a setting to stop us from doing that and we're not respecting it. Yeah, I don't like that at all. But the bigger issue for me is one of, you know, if your stance as a company, and it has been theirs for a while now, they get Tim Cook to stand up and talk about how data privacy is their number one priority with the iPhone. And we really respect that.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And here are all the reasons why and how we do it. And they really disrupt the third party world tracking when they introduce some of those features, like ask this app not to track me, that sort of stuff. That really, you know, really threw a wrench into a lot of people's plans. Like, you know, Facebook wasn't happy about that at all and others. And I, I feel like if you're going to plant that flag, you got to, it's not like, if they'd have just been like at Microsoft or Google or anybody else and just sort of been, well, yeah, there's some default stuff we capture and we're just really talking about third party here. Fine, that's what everybody does. It's not even that weird. But they made such a big deal about how this platform is the private one. This is the one that cares about your privacy. And we're going to go to great lengths to let you control your privacy. And then to not do that in a however small but fundamental way is not good. I don't like that. I see a lot of very reasonable remarks in the chat right now about like, well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:56:46 if you open an app, they should know it. And that's absolutely true. This is more than just you open the app. This is what you tapped on inside the apps, what you searched for inside the apps, what ads you saw in there, in other words, linked to your device ID, right? It's one thing to be like, yeah, they need to know what ads were shown, of course. But linked to your device ID, how long you looked at an app, your device ID, your screen resolution, your keyboard language, all packaged together so that they're correlated. So I'm looking for the, I'm always looking for the, this sounds bad, but this is why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And if you don't care, then you don't turn off the iPhone analytics and all of this is fine. I personally don't mind if they have this, if Apple has this information either. But if you gave me a setting that says you're going to be able to turn this off because you're uncomfortable with it, this does feel like the kind of information that should be covered by that. Yeah, I agree. So do you think that this is an issue of Apple, like, like, of definitions, like Apple saying this, like us thinking this is what they meant when they said that they weren't tracking, but they meant something different and and yeah probably uh maybe this could be resolved with some some clearer uh language yeah uh it's possible because again i don't think this is a horrible
Starting point is 00:58:14 smoking gun of like oh apple is deviously you know undermining your privacy uh it's it's just a matter of well i don't want apple to know that i'm searching for mental health apps and so i turned off the iPhone analytics setting. And now they have that anyway associated with a fingerprint of me. My keyboard type, my screen resolution, which iPhone I have. Yes, that is still technically anonymous, but it's the kind of fingerprinting data that makes people uncomfortable, especially if they're trying to be careful about where their data goes.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. And again, they present this stuff as they are the one bastion of privacy. And I just think that that put them in a corner where they really had to honor it. like they if they're not going to honor it then what's the point it's not all the apple apps uh it's it's app store music apple tv books and stocks uh and they tested health and wallet and found that those two apps send nothing even if you have iPhone analytics on they sent nothing so health and wallet are are totally walled off they're not collecting anything from that that's good because those two are kind of key for privacy um i was just looking so apparently so share iPhone
Starting point is 00:59:27 analytics is a default on, and you can go turn it off. And it says, oh, and there's also an option to, like, click and see what data is being sent. I assume if I turn that off, I will stop getting those. And they're just like analytics to 2022, 1102, something, something.IPS. If I go turn it off, oh, they stay there. But I want, yeah, if it's, if I wonder if for people who have had it off, Do they also show recent data in that data list? Like, I don't know. Well, there's a difference between collecting it and showing it to you. You could do that on device, and there's no issue with that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Right. What I think is getting people's attention here is it's being sent to iPhone-analyics. Dot Apple.com. And it's a list of like, here's the screen resolution. Here's the device ID. Here are the apps that they tapped on. Here's what they searched for. here's how long they looked at it and and apple certainly you know in the in the maintenance of
Starting point is 01:00:29 operating the system uh has a justification for collecting that they very well may say like oh yes that's collected but if you have iPhone analytics off it's discarded uh i would rather it not be said at all that's a better policy uh but apple hasn't commented one way or the other on it yeah that's the other thing they do is they take their sweet time on that stuff so they'll probably I don't know lawyer craft something up or maybe never address it. They never like to they prefer to just not respond
Starting point is 01:00:57 at all unless they have to. So we'll see how big of a kerfuffle this becomes and whether they respond to it. And it's the kind of thing when I first saw this headline, I'm like, all right, what's getting blown out of proportion? But the more I looked at it, the more I'm like, well, there's a little something
Starting point is 01:01:13 here. It's not huge. It's not horrible. but it is it is taking away user control where you would like to have that kind of user control and like Bobby said at very worst it's probably a misunderstanding of Apple saying well no we're always going to collect that for maintenance purposes for tracking purposes which case let me know that I would rather be able to turn it on or off
Starting point is 01:01:37 like I said I don't really mind if they have it personally but you know you should have control over it but you got to be clear about how you tell people that right Because what this will definitely do, I think, is that it will, it's going to erode people's trust, you know? Yeah, which is my whole thing. My whole complaint here, I don't care about that data either. And like I said, other services already take that data from people, whether they know it or not. It's just that you made this stance.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's a little bit like saying, I run a mom and pop grocery store. And here we have surveillance cameras. But those surveillance cameras blur your face. We promise. You'll never come in here and have your face not blurred. and then finding out later they weren't blurring your face. Like, well, if you're going to have a statement. They were only blurring your face in one aisle.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah, exactly. Like, yes, that's even a better example. That's a really good one. And that aisle had yogurt in it. So we're all in trouble now. And then they come back and like, well, of course we're not going to blur your face in the aisle with all the cigarettes because people steal those. But we blurred your face in the medical aisle. This is good.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You've improved my metaphor, actually, exponentially, nicely done. So, yeah, it's one of those deals. And I, you know, that's not great. for them because I do I appreciate their efforts for the most part in most areas to really push for giving me control over my own data, my own privacy. I like that. I don't like when they aren't super clear about what they're taking like this. Again, I'm sending it because I have, I have that on. I don't care. Doesn't matter to me. Just like you were saying, doesn't really matter to you. What matters to me is messaging and be, you know, do what you say you're going to do. That's
Starting point is 01:03:11 all. Yeah. And I'll be honest. I'm not really, ruling out the possibility that Apple comes up with a reasonable explanation that I hadn't thought of. So, you know, that's still a possibility. If they don't, which I kind of expect that they won't come up with something that will make me go like, oh, I was entirely wrong about this. And if they don't, I also don't think it ends up hurting them much. No.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Most people are not going to notice this story. And even if there's a few people out there going like, well, Apple says they're private, But there was that story about the iPhone analytics. Most people are going to be like, I already stopped listening when you said analytics. Right. So, you know, the fact of the matter is, and I'm not saying this is a justification, but the fact of the matter is, I'm not sure how much harm this is going to end up doing because it is such a technical nitpicky story.
Starting point is 01:04:05 But it's worth knowing about it, especially for folks like us. Well, if you like stories like this, then tune in to the Daily Tech News show today at 2pm Mountain Time because this and other stuff will be on to be on. Well, in fact, I guess Will Smith is on today, and we're talking some pretty cool tech on there. I'm excited about it. Yeah, we're going to talk about the new GPUs from AMT, the RDNA3 architecture. Will's been digging into it, so he was gracious enough to join, and he stipulated he had to be on the Scott Johnson, and we were happy to oblige. So we're having them on.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It'll be fun. I really like hanging out with Will. For anyone at home confused, this is not the actor, Will Smith. This is the non. Nor is it the catcher. No, it's not the catcher either. This is the best of all possible willsman. This one never punched or slapped, I should say, Chris Rock.
Starting point is 01:04:51 It never happened with this. And he never hit a three run homer for the Dodgers. No. This is all true. How do we know? Because you're going to have to tune in and find out. That's today at 2 p.m. Mountain. Check it out.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Tom, anything else going on in your world? Yeah. If you haven't checked out a word with Tom Merritt, I know a lot of you have, and I appreciate that. This is a great week to check it out. I had Josh Grisdale on. He's an IT pro in Japan. He runs a couple of accessibility websites on his own, but he also immigrated from Canada to Japan. He is now a Japanese citizen, even though he was born in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And so we talk about immigration and being an immigrant and why he decided to fully move, like not just be a permanent resident. And it's a great take on immigration that I don't think you're going to get anywhere else. So if you're into that, go check it out at Awordpodcast.com. Absolutely. That sounds great. Tom Merritt, everybody, Ace the Tech on Twitter. You know, Twitter. There's no one talking about Twitter right now.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's fine. It's fine. Go to Twitter. Tom Merritt, have a great day. I'll see you a little bit later for the Daily Tech News show. Thanks, y'all. Bye, Tom. All right there. Who says that Tom, or the DTNS's favors Apple?
Starting point is 01:06:11 I don't. I never said that. He's a fair, it's fair, damn it. All right. I mean, I don't even feel like, like, Android people can have an argument today about this because they're already sending all that data. They don't, like, this is already a thing that everyone else does. It's just that Apple says a thing and then they kind of don't exactly deliver them this one way.
Starting point is 01:06:32 That seems to be the issue at play here is that they're doing what people, the opposite of what people expected that they're doing. And the reason they expect is because they said. this. I mean, they really harp on it all the time. Security is number one here at Apple. That's what they were saying was setting them apart, right? Right. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Well, if that's true, like I want Tim Cook, I would like it if Tim Cook dressed it. Listen, all of our products are real good. And the reason we did this is it helps fuel my life. I will die if I don't have your personal data. There's only a couple of my products. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Where are we now? I know. We're at the time of day where we do the recommendals, and we're going to do those. I don't know if Nicole's around. She's showing us offline, but we're going to give it a shot anyway. We'll definitely add Randy to the call, and we'll see what we end up here with as we begin today's recommendation. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for that old adage on Wednesdays we call recommendals. Not really an adage. It's more of a segment. And So far, we got Randy Jordan joining us. Hi, Randy.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Good morning, morning, stream. How are you? I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. Oh, good. It is a freaking beautiful morning here in Southern California. I want you to know. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:55 It is perfection. Let me get the load down on the temperature there. What do we got going? Yeah. Is it cold? Like 60 Fahrenheit, like 15 Celsius. Like that's just perfect. You know, like crisp but not cold.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Oh, I love that. I do love that. That's my favorite kind of weather. We've got some rain, so everything's like sparkling. Oh, it's like vampires in the Twilight series. 9.19 a.m. here on the morning stream. It's supposed to go on your chest. That's right, that's right.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I'm going to give her bringing traffic on the aides. Yeah, yeah, or the nines. That's how we do them here's the nines. I don't know about you weird west coasters, but we're always on the nines. Anyway, it's good to have you here. We're going to do a little recommendals. I don't see Nicole around, so I think she maybe had something, but no matter. We're going to start this week with me.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I'm going to play a clip from a thing that I watched that blew my mind. But also, I don't know if the right people are going to want to watch it. Blew your mind. That's a fun, that's a really big lead, man. It blew your mind. It did blow my mind. The background here is it's on Hulu. It's a documentary.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Here is my clip. Jerry Falwell Jr. at the time was everything that John Carlo wanted to be. Giancala wanted all of this, and they knew it. So they were using it as a method of control. Hey, you know, have fun with your little girlfriend, but we own your ass. All right. I just like that. You got the money, money.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I left that there. Thank you very much. I decided that that needed to stay just for the, this is on my short list. This is on my watch list right now. You should watch it. You should watch it. I am remiss. Bobby, how are you?
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm doing. I'm remiss. How are you? I'm just so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're doing this. That's nice. Look at this. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:09:47 This is a little friendly exchange. I really like that. A couple weeks ago, Brian, you know, was missing and I was too, right? And Bobby had a really good recommendation.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And I'm just glad you're here. What was that? Remind me. I'm glad. Did you recommend that? Do you remember what that was, Bobby? What movie?
Starting point is 01:10:04 I was watching something that I don't remember. me neither I'm sure it was awesome whatever it was I watched it same day and it was great it was so good that no one can remember it damn it desperately oh it was it was um it was uh
Starting point is 01:10:21 it was afterlife oh yeah yeah yeah you did that's right afterlife I want to watch afterlife and I haven't watched it but thank you for reminding me about afterlife and um what happened with me was I had never finished it I had watched a bunch of it and then just sort of like forgot yeah yeah yeah there's three seasons that happens sometimes when you start something that's the risk of
Starting point is 01:10:44 starting something nowadays before it's canceled yeah right yeah that's the truth uh well all right right quick tms dot lee we'll get everybody's memory back if you go check that out that's where we put these things okay but back to godly anyway back to this thing it's called god forbid sorry god forbid A 2022 documentary just came out, landed on Hulu. This is from Acclaimed Documentarian, Billy Corbin. You know this dude from a whole bunch of stuff, including Cocaine Cowboys, which was a big one for him. And what's the other one? Screwball was really good.
Starting point is 01:11:20 537 votes was really good. He's a really good documentary and did a bunch of those 30 for, or he did A30 for 30 documentary about the murder of Don Arono or R. now. I forget. I haven't seen that one, but it's supposed to be good. Anyway, cocaine Cowboys is probably the one most people know. And this is his latest thing. So this is all about those frickin' wackadoo. I say wackadoo because after I watch this, there's no other term for these people. I mean, I hear you. I hear you. I understand. But I just have to, I start with this thing. I see the ads for this thing. And my first thought is my mom won't watch this,
Starting point is 01:11:59 won't believe this they aren't whackadoos to her they are like good people oh no no that's what i was saying earlier the people that need to see this are probably not going to see this they're not going to bother because they've already been they've been hosed by it they've already been shim shamed they're done they're they're out of the oven and cooked it's not going to go any further than that but i will tell you this if you have anybody who's sort of on the edge of maybe maybe they're having a bit of an awakening to how people really behave versus what they actually what they say and do on camera this is a must watch. So it's called God forbid, rather. It's about this dude, Giancarlo Grande, who is this former pool attendant at a hotel in Miami. And before you start imagining in your
Starting point is 01:12:44 head, oh, that's a foreign sounding name. And he sounds like he's just a young non-English speaking brown person who, you know, like it's easy to formulate that based on the story. He's nothing like that at all. He's one of the most well-spoken, intelligent people I've heard in a thing like this. And this is also his, this is his massive confession. That's what this documentary is. And they make a big point of that. It's not easy for him. He doesn't want to do it, but he thinks he needs to. He has to. He basically just dishes the entire story of what happened behind the scenes with Jerry Falwell Jr., former president and head of that, what is it, Liberty University, was the big Christian university he's in charge of. And his,
Starting point is 01:13:26 wife, Becky, Becky Falwell, um, they were, you know, behind the scenes going to hotel rooms and her and the kid are doing it while, uh, while Falwell juniors in the corner, uh, let's just say, uh, fluff and old, a fluff and old junior junior, if you know what I'm saying, the old junior there. Anyway, um, that happened for a long time. Then there was a whole three-something that went on. And this went on for years and years and years. And then it got complicated. And then it ropes into like modern politics and how that all played out and then they finally he finally resigns as president because stuff leaked some photos leaked he tried to explain those photos away the famous photo of him holding a cocktail an obviously alcoholic cocktail in one hand
Starting point is 01:14:14 and a woman in the other that is not his wife and his pants are unbuttoned yeah hers are too They're both standing there on button, like, oh, okay. And he tried to explain it. She goes, oh, she was pregnant and she was complaining that her pants didn't fit well. So it was in consult, you know, I was being her friend or whatever. But he was also, he got busted for like, he'd go on stage at the Liberty University assemblies with a water bottle full of vodka. And he was always drunk, always drunk, always drunk. Now, that only matters because, again, we're talking about levels of hypocrisy.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I don't care what people do with their personal lives. freaking go for it not here to shame you do whatever you want to do if that includes a pool boy have at it i don't care but you have this front facing public image and a school they had school rules that all of this stuff we're talking about is completely you're screwed if you do it you're out of the school or you pay big fines they call it the the liberty way and it's like b yu or anywhere else where they got strict code of conduct an honor code they have an honor code yes and he was behind the scenes breaking every possible honor code there was there's video there's phone
Starting point is 01:15:23 messages this wife was she's effed up dude everything about it there's video that there is video is what blows my mind right like I'm going to watch this whether or not you're recommending it because I want to see what they dug up right
Starting point is 01:15:38 well that's like the reason there hasn't been for instance a documentary about Azalea Banks's experiences with Elon Musk and Grimes is there's not video there's not even pictures right it's just what azalea banks is saying are these horrible things yeah so like i'm i'm blown away that they actually have something to show in this oh they have a ton to show and it's and it's all it's all awful from various perspectives but the my main one here's the big takeaway i don't even
Starting point is 01:16:09 feel political about this this is 100% about because i felt this way about bill clinton don't be such a damn hypocrite that's all i'm saying like people that get up and extol their virtues and push it on other people and claim all this high and mighty bullshit, then they turn around and they are horrendous human beings doing the opposite of what they're saying, F off. Like, F right off. And you're also scraping millions and millions of dollars while you're doing it because of this thing over here that you're supposed to be versus the thing you are actually, the thing you are. I mean, this isn't like shocking to say, but every time I, now I'm, I'm ruined this way.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Now, anytime anyone goes, it gets up and stands up and says, you know, drugs and homosexuality are the problem. The minute they say those, that phrase, I know what they're doing on the weekends. I know it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 They're doing the things they're up there yelling about the most. So this was like more proof of that. But also just, it's a really interesting web. And it gets into the whole like, I mean, all the way up to like the January 6th stuff
Starting point is 01:17:13 and the influence fall while had on the 2016 election and, and all of the fallout with that. it's really well made and billy corbin makes good documentaries i think it's worth your time so uh check it out it's called god forbid it's got a subtitle the sex scandal that brought down a dynasty uh which is a little dramatic but the documentary itself isn't true i don't feel like they've been brought down well they've been pushed out of the spotlight but i don't but if if brought down includes uh stripped of their their ill got and gain no
Starting point is 01:17:48 They have not been brought down. And the school still exists. It's being run by other people. There's a whole bunch of dark stories about that place. Just people getting screwed in their job. Somebody once mentioned, he goes, I don't think his behavior, he shouldn't behave like this if he's going to be our president.
Starting point is 01:18:04 That dude was fired so fast. Like, just a whole stuff across the board. Really well made. Entertaining in some ways, but mostly straightforward documentary stuff. And it's great. And do you feel like it was long enough? That's my other question.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Did it get everything established? I mean, it was almost two hours. Yeah, I'd say it didn't need to be a series. I think they had enough here to just make it the two hours. Do you remember the Lula row? Oh, right, the big long one. Yeah. Like, it had to be long.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It had to be long because there was to make you understand the problem, right? They had to really kind of take you through the whole history and let people have a chance to say enough, you know? Right. Yeah, that one, I really liked that doc for the same reasons I like this one. It shines a light on shitty behavior and is a great way to sort of shine a light on people in power with that shitty behavior. And this is a good way to do that. So again, quit being hypocrites, you bunch of a-holes. It's just, bug the hell out of me.
Starting point is 01:19:08 When you, like, tweeted last week that you were about to lay out of that, I just knew you were going to random. Oh, my gosh, dude. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to talk about it. So that thing's been burning a hole in my pocket. Let's get to yours, Randy. We got a clip here. What do you want to say about this?
Starting point is 01:19:21 This is also a documentary. And I feel like a lot of people have seen it, but it's one of these that's really flown under the radar. Like there's going to be a lot more who didn't even know it existed. And I found it one of the most entertaining things I've ever seen. Like, it's like that level of fun in a documentary. So, yeah, you're going to recognize it, I think. here we go.
Starting point is 01:19:45 And then I called Humphrey and I was like, you had a club that had an infrastructure that could at least support an evening of the balance sheet. Can't you theoretically take a team that's in the lowest league and bring them to the top? He said yes.
Starting point is 01:19:59 But as I started to gather more and more information, I realized how expensive it was going to be. I have TV money. But as I started to look at how expensive it actually was to run a club, I realized that I needed something more than TV money I needed
Starting point is 01:20:16 movie star money but sometimes you gotta like your heart lead you even if you know it's someplace you know you're not supposed to be more than that I needed superhero movie star money time to make the chimmy
Starting point is 01:20:33 fucking chung more than that probably as we ascended up the leagues I would need alcohol barren money Aviation American gin and mobile phone services money and what are the companies this bitch out? Cyber security
Starting point is 01:20:51 cybersecurity money. And anybody? What else does he got? I have no idea what this is. I know it's Ryan Reynolds connection here, but I have no idea. So that was Rob McElhulhenney speaking. You know, you know him from, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Mythic Quest. And a couple years ago, he and he and his online friend Ryan Reynolds, they had never met face to face before doing this. They got together and decided to buy a soccer team in Great Britain. They, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:27 found the perfect team for them to buy several leagues down the ladder, like below the pyramid of soccer teams. It's a, it's a team in Wales in a town called Rexum. Rexum is a 60,000 person. I guess it's a small. city. It's the oldest, basically the oldest soccer club in the world, like with the oldest still used stadium in the world, et cetera, et cetera. And the two of them who were friends online, Rob McElhenney and Ryan Reynolds, started figuring out how to purchase this
Starting point is 01:22:02 club. The ownership of it was in disarray. And this is a documentary that follows every step of that from the inception of it all the way through their purchase of the club, what happens immediately after that, right? And then their first visit to England and Wales and so on and so on. And it is funny as
Starting point is 01:22:26 hell. Because of Ryan Reynolds is always funny. Like the guy is never not funny. He knows how to do it. Funny for sure. Yeah. And you can tell that Ryan Reynolds sort of saw this as more than the two of them buying a football. football club, that he saw it as an opportunity to document the process, to have fun with these other things. Because Ryan Reynolds is, like he said, an alcohol barren, all of Ryan Reynolds'
Starting point is 01:22:52 other businesses that he already had are sort of on his shoulders as he goes into this. So, like, one of the very first things that happens when he gets to Wrexham Wales is that football club, and basically the whole city is suddenly sponsored by aviation gin, and and TikTok and so forth. And they approach that in a very respectful way. But the entire time, you're just like, this has got to, this has got to fall apart somehow. There's no way this is going to work out, right? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:23:24 I've heard nothing but raves about this as well. And I don't, I didn't know, I don't know what I thought I was going to get into. Because you see a sunny and Philadelphia dude with him, obviously, as you mentioned. And I go, well, is this just like a, are they just trolling? Like, what are we doing here? but it sounds like they're not so in some ways they really stumble like you find out right at the very very beginning that it's really rob mackleheny's like project right he he he he ryan reynolds is all in but ryan reynolds is the money and rob mackleheny is the uh like the the the
Starting point is 01:23:54 the brains here yeah he's the tv money he's that but yeah but they are they live in l.a they have you know jobs that they're that are they're very busy with and so one of the first things he does is he ropes in a writer on mythic quest to who is English, right, to be his go between. And he like moves this guy to wrecks him. And this, I'm forgetting the guy's name, but this guy, you know, now lives there and is their sort of like mouthpiece in this in this football club. And that is just like probably not the best thing to do. I mean, like it's better than nothing, you know, but it's like you're, you're just wondering,
Starting point is 01:24:36 is this guy going to work out? Like, he was a writer on Mythic Quest, you know? Like, he wasn't, you know, like, he's not a, he's not a soccer expert. He's a soccer fan. Like, he, he, he's English. And so, like, he understands some things. But it just, by the way, the documentary is also about everyone else like that. It's about the city and the people who run the pub right outside the stadium.
Starting point is 01:25:03 And it's about, like, the major supporter. because in in places like wrecks and wales like their football club is the city it's it is the community and and the community is what really really matters and so this documentary extends way out into like groups of people who really all they are is lifelong fans of this football club right and it's and it's telling you their stories it's like it's like touching on a guy who's in a local band that wrote a song about you know, Deadpool and Rob McElhenney,
Starting point is 01:25:38 you know, and then he's like, he's got cancer and you're finding out all about him, you know? Like, I'm telling you, this is, this is seriously like one of my favorite things of the year.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Like, I can't, I don't know what to compare it to, except the best stuff that's come out this year. Well, it's reviewing extremely well. This is also on Hulu, as you meant,
Starting point is 01:25:57 I think you mentioned that. You've got a picture up of Rob McElheny in, in their little tiny shirt shop at the stage. at the stadium and he's holding up so he made a custom hat for himself and then he goes there he finally goes to rexum and finds out they copied it and pretty well but they copied it based on what they saw on zoom and they made a bunch of them so you think this whole thing is like playing off of the popularity of say i don't know like uh ted lasso is kind of a huge thing and you know this all started before ted lasso was a thing oh interesting
Starting point is 01:26:35 They started their buying of the club and getting their, you know, their foothold before Ted Lassow existed. Of course, you're going to think of Ted Lassow when you look at this from the outside, but never once while watching it did I think of Ted Lassow. It's just not, it's not the same thing. Sure. Sure. It's super interesting. I will see this. This looks great.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Again, that is. I really hope you do. It does not require that you care at all about soccer. It really is so much more about the people who care about. That's good. That's good for Bobby. Boy, howdies. He hates soccer.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Wow. It's all you hear about it anymore is how much you hate that freaking game. Just kidding. Bobby, did you see anything this week that you wanted to share with us? Sure. I just did a quick gathering of things and I'll send you the trailer on YouTube if you are so inclined to play it. Yeah. Why not?
Starting point is 01:27:32 Let's do it. I'll play it right out of here. I did a search of. What is that thingy that you have that someone made to quick TMS? Oh, that L.I. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think this has been recommended before.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Well, fair enough. I don't think so either. I'm looking at the name. I don't think this has been around. So let's just play this bit of this here. Check it out. What we got out of here? Stab wounds in our upper back.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Tough time imagining it with just the outline. Ken, get in the position. And slowly be dying, too. You got to keep track of the evidence. Give a no pad. For Terry, Seattle, every day means a new murder case and a new celebrity partner. Are you ready to solve a crime? Ready.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Scream it! I'm ready to solve a crime! Let's go! Forget how strong I am. So this is that Will Arnett deal, Murderville deal. Yes. Yeah? Yeah, so this is...
Starting point is 01:28:34 He's so great. So this is a show on Netflix called Murderville. It came out in February of this year. And if you like, like, if you like Will Arnett, this is just Will Arnett being Will Arnett and doing what he does really well, which is just being, like, taking a role, a comedic role, and just like digging in
Starting point is 01:28:59 and, and just going, you know, like committing and going all the way. And what's great about this show is that it's like improv, okay? So if you're also a fan of improv, but it's not like stage improv. What they've done is they've, it's like they've created a show, they've written what the show is going to be, and then they invite someone on, like some of the people on there have been Sharon Stone, Conan O'Brien is on guests on the first episode, and what they do is they create this sort of, this murder case. that Will Arnett's character, who's this old detective, Terry Seattle. You know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he normally does things his own way and he likes to fly solo.
Starting point is 01:29:49 But the chief, um, who's played by, um, what's her name, uh, Hanito Wood? Hanifa. Hanifa. Sorry, I was, failed at reading. Hanifa Wood, um, who you've seen before in things like, um, oh, what? I'm doing a... Nurse Jackie is all I've got. I know I've seen her in things before. I just can't remember what they are off the top of my head.
Starting point is 01:30:14 But yeah, Nurse Jackie is one of them. She's the chief, the police chief. And so you've got that trope of, you know, he's a lone wolf kind of detective who does his job on his own normally. And the chief is bringing in these rookie detectives to work along with him in every episode. And it's a new celebrity guest. So they've built this whole case. that every episode is, but the,
Starting point is 01:30:37 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the celebrity guest who, who is playing
Starting point is 01:30:42 themselves, by the way. Oh, so it's Ken Jiang as himself. Yes. Okay. All right. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Down with that. They don't have the, like, they're improvving the whole thing. They don't know any, like, they clearly know that they're on the show, but,
Starting point is 01:30:58 but they don't know anything about, like, they don't have the script or anything. Right. It's all, improv. It reminds me, they do this a little bit with curb, your enthusiasm. There's a similar approach to the contents. Like they have an outline and they know kind of where things are headed and they'll kind of have bookends, but for the most part, in between and how you react with each other, they totally
Starting point is 01:31:19 do on the fly. But the way the show is different than that, because you're right, is all the other people know that, right? Like, each scene is clearly about a certain thing and every actor in those scenes are improvving and they're trying to get to a certain thing. But the celebrity guest knows nothing. And it's almost set up like a game for them, like a game show in a way, because at the end of the episode, like everything comes together like a murder mystery almost and all the people are there and the celebrity guest has to decide who did it, like who the murderer was. And either they get it right or they get it wrong and it's always hilarious. Okay, so they can get it wrong. That's good.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Yes, they do sometimes get it wrong. Okay, the hallmark of improv is that they should get it right. So I'm glad to hear that it's possible they could get it wrong. Yeah, and that's why I say it feels like a game show in a lot of ways. And you can see it. Like, they're not pretending that it's not improv. You can clearly see the cogs turning and sometimes the guest breaking a little bit, you know. And it's just, it's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:32:31 It's one of the funny... I like improv a lot and it's just it's very funny to watch. Conan O'Brien being the first celebrity guest was clearly done to be the hook you need
Starting point is 01:32:45 to get into the show because it's... I mean, Will Arnett and Conan O'Brien together is, it's golden. Will Arnette's already a good guest on Conan Brown. There's a Kumail Nunjani episode and I can just imagine how incredulous he is the entire time. I love that guy.
Starting point is 01:33:01 I'm worried about it at first because when I had heard that it was all improv, I thought, oh, really for a detective show. And I don't know why I just kind of bounced from the idea, but I'm glad to hear it's worth watching. Oh, it's amazing. It's amazing. And the Camille Nunjani episode that you just mentioned is, I think, of the ratings I've seen is rated one of the, is rated the highest. So it's supposed to be pretty good. Nice. And it was good. I watched that. Yeah. Okay. Well, very nice. So Brian I'm realizing Brian I bit mentioned this. And I wonder if he ever actually watched it. But I remember him mentioning it because it has an Annie Murphy episode.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Everyone loves to Annie Murphy. And the statement was, we'll watch anything that stars Annie Murphy. Yeah, I love her. Well, there you have it. This is a fine list today. Let me reiterate them for those at home who may be missed it. Scott today watched, God forbid on Hulu. Welcome to Rex.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Rexum. Welcome to Rexum. Rex. I'm also on Hulu from Randy, both documentaries. And then if you're looking for some good comedy with some improv, which is kind of documentary adjacent in that it's not planned, you know, some of it. Anyway, I'm trying to make a connection that doesn't need to happen. That would be murder, what is it? Murder, she wrote. Murderville. Murderville. Don't watch Murder she wrote. I mean, it's fine, but, you know, this is not the one we're talking about. It's Murderville. That's on Netflix. And all of this is available to you and yours. I think it'll be.
Starting point is 01:34:31 be updated on the quick sack thing or the uh sorry tms uh lee deal but uh brian does that he's not here so i don't know when they'll be put up but it'll be soon uh randy it's always good talking to you we're doing west world this weekend how does that make you feel how do you feel uh i'm tired already oh me too a little bit i just like i i'm not expecting to love it i'm expecting to well i'm expecting to finally be satisfied that i saw it because i never have and so that'll be cool but I'm not expecting to be blown away by this thing. I make fun of Yule Brenner a lot. I don't know exactly why, right?
Starting point is 01:35:08 Like, he was perfectly fine actor for the time. Sure. Yeah. But it's just like nowadays, I look back and I'm just like, how did this guy ever get cast in these roles? Yeah. You know, like he's just not, he's not right. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:35:21 For the king and I, when he's in the king and I, it feels perfect. When he's in The Magnificent Seven, and I love that movie. But I always felt weird about him being in it. It just felt like, why is the king in this? Why is this guy who looks like he should be running, you know, all of Siam? Why is, why is he a cowboy? There's a, there's some movie. I'm forgetting the name of it, where Yule Brenner played Babe Ruth. And it's like, no, no, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:35:46 You're not allowed. That's amazing. I need to know more about this, Babe Ruth, Will Brunner. Anyway, we're going to have such a good time. It'll be a great time. Tune in this weekend for a brand new filmsock, filmsock.com with me, Randy, Brian, and the other Brian. And Brian will be home by then. so all is well. Have a good one, Randy. We'll see you next time by now. Okay. There goes Randy.
Starting point is 01:36:06 End of the night. Day, I guess. Hey, what else have we got today? Not much else. I do want to read a quick text from a listener who sent this into 801-471-0462. And he says, hey, TMS, funny show today. I've been laughing my butt off. But I am that 70s kid who loved Rush back in the day.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Scott, you said the guy who's how Scott hit by a meteor was listening to Edgix. exit stage right that fantastic live rush album is a nod to snaggle puss exit stage left chuck uh sorry chuck b 63 from twitter uh yeah man actually i wasn't sure i even got it right um i can never remember if it's exit stage right or left but the whole point was it was the opposite of the usual phrase of exit stage left so exit stage right i want to just make sure i'm right about this or i'm going to feel stupid yeah that's the album rush here it is hold on exit stage right oh is that that's a live album what's their other album uh okay maybe i've got this wrong damn it i hate when i get stuff wrong okay
Starting point is 01:37:15 here we go this is where brian would have lots of information he would know all this stuff 100% he would totally right unfortunately you have me oh you know what i'm thinking of okay i mix moving up with exit stage left all the time. I don't know why. Moving pictures is the album with like Tom Sawyer and like some of their biggest hits. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I'm a Rush fan, but I'm clearly not that big a one. Do you think that knowledge of albums is going to be a thing of the past? Oh, like I don't... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:37:51 Like nobody consumes them in albums anymore. I mean, they do. They consume them. Like if somebody drops, Taylor Swift, drops a new album, you're still listening to the album, but you don't think of it in the same exact way. I mean, maybe you do. I don't know. Like, I think of recent stuff as albums.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Maybe I'm not, I'm not a huge, I think it's weird when people say this, so it's weird that I'm saying it, but I'm not a huge music consumer. Like, I'm not a big fan. Like, I don't seek it out or I listen to plenty of music, but I'm not like a devotee of, of, of, a, of, a any kind of music. So maybe I'm just not the, maybe I'm just thinking about it from my different perspective. Maybe you're like a playlist. My wife is a huge Weezer fan and she actually knows all as the albums come out. She knows them as albums. So maybe I'm just thinking about this. You're a playlist kid. Playlist, millennial playlist. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what's going on. I think a lot of people do that. But I do think there's something like I'm trying to think
Starting point is 01:38:53 of their most recent. Yeah, almost everything I listen to, I always think of it. Oh, that's their most recent album or that's their most recent song from the album. I still do that. So maybe, but maybe that's because I grew up in a time where albums were everything. And we still do it. It could just be your framework already. That's how you think about it because that's how you grew up thinking about it. Plus we still have album art and people see that as a construct that just sort of is there. And I don't know. I don't know how to, I don't know how to feel about it. But now you've made me question everything. Nice job. Well, then you've got things like like, like, I don't know, the lemonade album, you know, and, and, so there are big album drops, you're right, that matter.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Yeah. So, maybe I'm the weird one. You might be the weird one, but who's to say? Maybe the listeners will write in and tell us who the weird one truly is. Until then, though, how would, how does this sound, listeners? No commercials ever. You don't like commercials. How would that sound?
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Starting point is 01:40:10 We'd love you at those as well. But, you know, the buck of months all we ask. So hop on over and check it out. That's at patreon.com slash TMS. For all other things, frogpants.com slash TMS. Okay. Oh, and don't forget to check out Bobby's show all around science. Do that.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Please. Yeah, please. Not to sound too desperate. No, you know, more listeners is good. I don't think you sound desperate at all. I think that's a good idea. Everybody will listen to it. You can always do with more science.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Speaking of which, Bobby, thank you so much for hanging out and being a part of the show today. I really appreciate it. Always. Always. For those at home wondering what's going on tomorrow, Brian will still be out of town, but we will have one TV's Travis joining us. Travis will be here for, I think this will be his third time, something like that. Always love having Travis around. So watch for that tomorrow for guest hosting duties.
Starting point is 01:40:56 that'll be your guy that's it for today's show however and I'm going to play a song because Brian gave me a song to play on the outro of the song or the thing look I'm not going to play like two days of Africa covers I know you want me to but I'm not going to all right
Starting point is 01:41:12 instead I went to the expert that expert being Brian Ibit and he gave me some songs and here's the one he gave me for today this is a request from Ross who says hi guys I'm listening to from Ireland's since the start of TMS he says in his Irish accent but never submitted a request before
Starting point is 01:41:28 but the ninth is my 29th birthday oh man that's a big that's a big one man that's cool you're only a year older than my oldest daughter that's weird I'm old anyway and I really want to share this band
Starting point is 01:41:43 so here we are I'd like to give you guys a shout out on how the show has stayed fresh over the years while still delivering the same quality content well thank you very much that is the goal for the song I would really like this cover of System of a Down a band I really like performed by an Irish band called The Scratch with the RTE
Starting point is 01:41:59 concert orchestra. I don't know what that is. R.T. Royal Testicular entry concert orchestra, right? Do I probably have that right? Yes, that's right. Okay, great. They performed it last year on RTE for a show call.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That must be a TV. That must be a channel or something in Ireland. RTE. Anyway, a show called Songs from My Childhood. I think you really like the music style and recommend listening to their two albums or watching their live show on YouTube. Thanks, Ross.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Well, Ross, got you covered, dude. And thanks for listening for a song. We really appreciate it. And happy birthday. I think that's awesome. 29's a big one. We're going to play your big song right now. So this is, hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I've lost the name already. This is a cover of the system of the down. This is songs. No, wait. Where's the actual title of the song? Hold on. Hold on to your butts. Songs for my childhood.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Is that the name of the song? No, that's another thing. show. We're both failing. I know. This is really bad. Hold on Wednesday. Here we go. This is called, oh, uh, Ariel's. That's the name of the song. Ariels. And I love System of the Down. So I'm excited to hear how the Irish translate that stuff. Uh, so we're going to play that now. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new show. Thank you everybody for listening and being here. Life is a waterful With one in the river and one in the river and one again after the fall.
Starting point is 01:43:53 swimming through the void we hear the words we lose ourselves but we find it on we are the ones that want to play always want to go but you never want to say we are the ones that are brought to choose always want to play but i never want to say we are the ones that fought to choose always want to play but i never want to lose areas in the sky when you live when you live small mind you free your life life is a waterfog we drink from the river now we turn around and the foot of our walls
Starting point is 01:44:56 Swimming through the void, we hear the words, we lose ourselves when we point it all. We are the ones that want to play. Always want to go, but you never want to stay. We are the ones that want to choose. Always want to play, but you never want to lose. areas in the sky when you lose small mind to free your life areas so apply when you free your eyes when you free your eyes eternal
Starting point is 01:46:20 rise Ferrials, In the sky When you lose, Why do you free your life Arias So o'ar-five When you free our eyes
Starting point is 01:47:11 Eternify You know, I'm going to be able to be. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I don't know. I'm going to I don't know. We'll see you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Oh, it did a thing!
Starting point is 01:48:54 Oh, that was me.

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