The Morning Stream - TMS 2379: The Old Ball and Chainsaw
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Coming up on TMS, your kidneys are incredible.
Airlines can bite my left butt cheek.
I can only taste hand lotion.
Upper deck of a German toilet.
Hallmark, porn, without naked people.
Aria Stark's shit list.
That guy at Jiffy Lou Blyde.
Bruce is a lumberjack and he's okay.
T stands for dumb.
Coming to the stage, Jerry Atrick.
George Donkey Bite Washington.
Fitty Centaur.
COVID makes you think there are two marlies.
French fries are disgusting.
with Dan and more on this episode of
We're back, the morning stream.
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But Yivo has no gender.
Thus, Yivo has proclaimed that instead of he or she,
we are to use the word shklee.
And instead of him or her,
we are to use the word schlimm or schler.
Phew, I've been sweating a nomenclature all week.
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The morning stream. Let's just get some shot at.
I forgot I put that in there. Hi, everybody. Welcome to TMS. Yeah, that's right. It's the morning stream for Monday, November 21st, 2022. I am Scott Johnson. That is Brian.
it. Good morning, Brian.
Hello. Oh, my gosh. It's so good to be.
Hello, morning, stream. Oh, my gosh. How are you? I'm fine. Thanks.
Hey, we haven't heard that in a bit either. I guess we're hearing that on Wednesday.
Yeah, no, it's, it is, as long as it's been for you, it's been a couple extra days longer for me
because TV's Travis and Bobby filled in for me while I was in Orange County, seeing the
concert. We'll talk about that. We've got a lot of stuff to talk about, a lot of stuff to catch up on.
It's so much bad timing, though, right? Like, you're, you're, you were perfect.
perfectly well-suited to go when you were going.
And we already thought it was bad timing because I was supposed to go out of town last week.
Right.
I was going to barely be here anyway for a work thing.
And then you, you know, so we were staggered and we hadn't really coordinated that.
And it's not like we could.
We really couldn't in this case.
So it wasn't a big deal.
But then I got sick.
COVID, the COVID-19 had to cancel the trip.
Brian, uh, obviously home like, all right, showtime.
We're doing shows, right?
And I'm like, shit.
I don't think I can.
get out of this bed so that's how we'll even talk about like how the time the crap timing for this
week for for for another thing for me that would have come in really handy but we'll talk about that
after after the COVID update but yeah so before we even start talking about the COVID are you
able to reschedule that thing you were going to go to Texas for yeah but we can't do it too after the
holidays now so oh bummer sometime in possibly March or maybe oh gosh wow yeah so it's a ways off
we're working on it's still up in the air
we may be able to squeeze something in
in December but it's not
it's not you know
none of that's just hard
with the holidays and travel stuff's weird
during this time of the year and I don't know
we just don't know what we're doing yet
but hopefully that gets itself worked out
they were incredibly nice and gracious about it
and we're like that's good
and I'm glad we got the cancellation insurance
although I have a bone to pick
we got cancellation insurance
or whatever the fee is you pay
so they'll let you cancel stuff
nine usually like nine 10 bucks or something per ticket it's not bad okay but you know it's a little bit
of a racket but you're what you're paying like 250 350 bucks for a plane ticket it feels kind of like
you know you should you should just refund this if something goes wrong like something you know
an act of god kind of situation yeah and i think they're they're all in cahoots it's a
freaking racket the airline industry can bite my left butt cheek they suck yeah yeah uh but basically
So as I thought this did, because I'm dumb.
I thought, well, if we paid that, then they'll just pay you, they'll just cancel everything.
Well, hotel, of course, yes, no problem.
Sure.
Car rental, no problem.
Airlines, which is two airlines, because that was the only way I could get the flights on the dates I needed them.
I had to do Delta on the way out and American on the way back.
Okay.
Both of them, of course, are like, oh, you got the insurance, great.
And I'm like, what does that mean?
Well, it means we don't, we don't, you know,
We can, we're not going to just. Yeah, we don't refund you. And I'm like, wait, I thought the whole idea is like cancel means cancel. No, no, no. These are now credits. These can use toward future flabber bra blah blah blah. Freaking F off, dude. The only difference between now and 2020 is that they used to do that as a standard for COVID. And now you got to buy the insurance to do it. But they still get you, man. These bastards still get you. And yes, I still have to go. And yeah, it'll carry for a year. And that's fine. But I'm still annoyed.
I think that industry can take a dump.
And I don't understand, you know, like if I don't buy the insurance and something happens
and I miss and I can't do that flight, I was under the impression, and maybe, you know, falsely
so, that I can just say, yeah, I need to, I can't go on that flight.
So I'll just, you know, rebook that same trip for another time.
And I guess, you know, I knew I wouldn't get my money back if I didn't even like that.
the insurance. But I thought, you know, oh, Southwest, I'm not going to be able to make that
flight, you know, just put the funds and credits and I'll make that flight when I can. But apparently
that's not the case. Not the case. I don't know if something changed recently or if this is just
normal procedure, what the deal is. So it's fine. I'll live with it. But honestly, it was like
right before COVID, the airline industry was having problems anyway. And they started saying,
well, all right, we got to charge for this. We got to charge for this other thing. We got to
charge this. Then COVID hit, and they relaxed a few things. But just when you think they should
be kind of rolling back some of those temporary measures that they had to put in place that cost us
money, it's like, oh, you know, we're making more money because we're now charging people $15 to pick
a freaking seat on the website that doesn't cost us any money to maintain or have a representative
have to work with them on. No, it's pure profit. It's pure profit. It's like the ticket
The Ticketmaster convenience fee of buying online. It's like, oh, well, I'm buying my tickets
online. Oh, well, then that's an $18 convenience fee. For who's convenience? Yeah, whose convenience.
Them getting zero cost profit is the convenience. It's like the whole thing when you say,
oh, we're at a 40 year high for inflation. That's true. But we're also at a 70 year high for corporate
profits. So, F off all y'all, bastards.
Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, so here's my, here's my, here's my old.
overall take on the COVID experience.
Please do.
A lot of my friends, you included,
vaxed as I was, boosted all that,
had their version of COVID,
and it wasn't so bad, you know,
a couple days cold kind of sort of deal.
And, you know, I knew people, obviously,
who've had much worse than that.
But I just thought,
I just assumed that I was going to have
a nice little sail through it kind of experience.
I just thought, well, this will be no big deal.
Everyone else around me is, no big deal.
The vax is supposed to do that for us,
Like, you know, that's what happened with me.
It's like, oh, wow, you know, thank goodness I got the vaxes and the boosts because it made, you know, I still got COVID, but at least it made the experience almost imperceptible, sadly, for all those fine folks at D23.
Sure.
Rub it up on.
Hopefully they all had minor experiences as well, if anyone caught it.
But the way it worked for me, couldn't have been more hardcore.
Like, I don't know.
I mean, obviously everybody's different.
and the way I was talking to Bobby off air about this
just from a kind of like a science discussion
sort of about it but I basically said
and I agree and I think this is
this holds it's a little bit like all right
well I wore my seatbelt like the guy
in the passenger seat did and we got in a horrible wreck
and he came out unscathed because of a seatbelt wearing
I lost a shoulder or pulled a shoulder out of socket
but I still
I still lived
do you understand
it's like the point is like
the vaccine didn't make me
impervious to all harm
it
but I think
had I lived or had I had it in early
2020 I'm a statistic dude
there's no way I'd have made that
it was so bad yeah it makes me wonder like
what would have been what would it have been
like for you if you hadn't gotten
the vaccines and the boosters like what
I wish you could quantify it
I really do
because the only thing I could think of is I would have been dead it was so bad I know I would have at the least at the very least we'd have gone to the ER on like Wednesday because that was really at its peak of bad you never had any sort of like breathing issues right it was all like coughing and fatigue like major fatigue and of course the sense of smell and yeah massive fatigue was the biggest thing yeah fever is obviously
The fever is the...
You know what I'm going to do here?
I'm going to break it down.
Let me give me the top five symptoms that I have.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
This is the top five.
Oh, that's weird.
I just find a glitch in Ventura.
Maybe not.
I had a weird thing happen on screen just now.
All right.
So, any weird thing that happens?
Is that Ventura?
No.
I'm going to blame it on Ventura instead of my addled brain from my horrible fever
dreams last week.
So here are the worst symptom.
as far as I'm concerned.
At number five, you might think this would be more or it would be worse,
but loss of smell, I'll put at number five.
The reason I think loss of smell is at fifth and not first or second or something
is because it's actually more fascinating than it was bad.
Yeah.
I found that to be really odd because I would be in a room where the cat just took a dump
and I'd have no idea.
And Kim would be like, oh my gosh, can you not smell that?
And she lost a little bit, but it all kind of came back for her real quick.
Okay.
Mine's about, I don't know, I probably smell.
I probably got 20% of my smell back or something.
So it's actually coming back already.
Some people I know go months, maybe a year without their smell or taste.
But for me, it's been just during the week.
But anyway, that was just weird and interesting.
Yeah.
Like, oh, one of my senses is gone.
I can still.
Yeah, it doesn't impact you as much.
You know, obviously it affects your, and we'll probably get to the tasting.
But it just, that's kind of its biggest thing, right?
it's there to protect you in case
now there's a natural gas leak
it's to help you taste
but you know you can get by
without a sense of smell
yeah you can live with it for a few days and kind of go
oh interesting and sort of observe it or whatever
that was number five
number four was taste
losing taste is
kind of sucky also interesting a little bit but also
super sucky because people brought over
really good food very nice very nice
people we had some wonderful tadpoolers
call in door dashes and junk like that
It was super nice.
I'm going to send all these people something in the mail.
But very kind.
Anyway, we would get things that were good that I couldn't tell if they were good or not.
Already couldn't smell them.
And now I can't taste them.
Freaking, that kind of sucked.
So I didn't enjoy that.
So then it became just, what you ate was just textures.
Right.
You know?
And for me, that would be a great diet plan.
Like, basically, if I could take a pill that for 30 days makes it so I can't taste food,
I would, it would be like, oh, great.
So really, I just need to eat to survive.
Because I eat because I like the taste of food.
Oh, let me taste that Italian sub.
Or let me have the chips and salsa.
Or let me have, oh, a French fry with salt and ketchup, blah, blah, blah.
You take away that for me.
And it's like, okay, just give me oatmeal for 30 days or whatever.
And that's all I need.
Nothing but mushed up vegetables.
I can't tell the difference between that and a steak.
I mean, let's go.
I agree with you.
That part of it, if that was still, because that's now coming back also.
um although i so i'm sipping on this dr pepper zero here and it tastes like hand lotion a little
so so the receptors are coming back but not all at once it's like how about we give him let's
give him uh sour and umami yeah and we'll keep sweet and salty yeah we'll hang on to bitter for
later you know they're just it's kind of having its time i guess um so
So that was number four.
Number three, the cough is horrendous.
It is a little better today, better than, it's been better than every day since.
But there were a couple days in there where I thought I was registering on someone's Richter scale.
It was so, so hardcore.
And producing nothing, right?
Like, it didn't really get into my chest, so that's good.
But it stayed all up here, kind of upper respiratory sort of esophageal area zone up through my head.
And coughing felt like my, my eyes.
were on the upper deck of a German toilet, just ready to fall off into the hole.
It was really weird.
Wow.
Anyway, so there's one to take apart.
And then, too, fatigue, by far, fatigue was one of the worst things.
I was so tired.
And in some ways, on some days, not all, but some days, I could sleep.
And when I did, it was beautiful, wonderful best sleep I've had in months.
because I'm just knocked out cold, right?
Just like...
I kind of want that, too.
Like, can I...
I know, right?
I know.
Can I just have some of these?
Can I pick from the COVID symptom menu and just say,
yeah, I'll take, from column A, I'll take the good sleep.
And from column B, I'll take lack of taste and smell.
Yeah.
And that's the problem is I don't think the good sleep comes without the horrible fatigue.
So it feels like you've got to have one to get the other.
The worst, by far, at number one, the fever.
And I thought I'd had bad fevers before.
And I have.
I've had a couple of real doozies in my lifetime.
I've never had one that was this miserable.
And overall, I will say, I have never felt this bad or felt this sick in my freaking life.
So if I've ever made any of you who dealt with COVID in any sort of way feel like I didn't fully understand,
or if you felt like I didn't give the proper amount of understanding.
I think I just said the same thing.
with different words.
If I discounted
the sympathy for
you having COVID at all.
At all. I would like to take all of that
back and iterate my
newfound understanding
and respect for you because
that was bad.
And I'm vaccinated.
Already I got some protection there.
In fact, you know, my doctor said the good news
is your body is fighting like crazy, which
means
that means that's good.
It's an ally to have the vaccinations.
Some people, you know, anti-vaxxers who smoke all day had nothing and didn't even know they had it.
So you can't go around comparing everybody's case.
But my case, dude, was the shits.
I hated it.
I don't recommend it.
I don't wish it on anyone except for Hitler.
He's dead, though, so it doesn't really count.
But I'd give it to Hitler if I could.
Give it to Hitler, sure.
At the height of his growth to power, not even his height of his power.
his lead-up, I'd say it'd be good time for Hitler to get COVID and maybe he wouldn't have
done all the things he did.
But outside of that, I got people I dislike greatly.
I don't want them to get this.
You're a better man than me because I've got Aria Stark's list right here of who I would like
a non-fatal, a COVID experience to happen to.
Well, there you have it.
And non-fatal, maybe.
Oh, ha.
I will hire, the American people.
Yeah, so I don't, I don't recommend it.
It's bad.
And, you know, my experience with it, notwithstanding, you know, try not to get it, try not to give it to each other.
The thing is, you know, we're heading into high infection time of the year.
A lot of family get-togethers and groups.
Do you, by the way, were you able to kind of trace it back?
Do you think you know where it might have come from?
Oh, we absolutely do.
So I forgot to mention that.
And this is not to call them out because they did.
They stock somebody.
Well, and they didn't know either.
It's not their fault.
Of course.
Of course, yes.
Jim and Robin Jensen came by the house a week ago today and we hung out for a while and they
brought gifts for Kim's birthday and they were very brought some baby stuff and hung out with Van and
you know we were all we were here Taylor was here at the babies and it was me and Kim and then
they just showed up and she was about to have another surgery so we were checking in on her and
all that very wonderful nice yeah they are the absolute nicest people like the cards we
get from them on a regular basis are she's so talented in those generous and nicest
things she's so good at those i don't know how she does those but anyway she's they're amazing people
they didn't know it but they had covid coming in yeah so they gave it to us they started feeling
rotten just before we did um that wednesday i guess and then by friday or thursday kim kim was
was saturday whatever it was kim was really sick and i'm like oh please let me dodge this and i
started feeling bad that day so it all kind of cascaded from there i think they're doing okay
I think Jim got it worse than Robin did.
That's what I usually hear is that in married couples,
one of the other gets it worse than the other one does.
For sure.
Tina definitely had it worse than I did.
Yeah, we didn't get it at the same time.
We got it months apart, but she definitely had it worse than I did.
I was talking to Justin, and he said that his wife had it way worse than he did.
Other people I talk to her locally, same thing, but flip, like the guy had it worse,
the lady barely had it.
My sister barely had it, but my brother-in-law had it really bad.
Interesting.
So, like, there's usually this disparity that I'm used to hearing about.
Yeah.
Kim and I had none of that disparity.
We were dead on every day for the same symptoms.
She was just a day ahead of me.
So she would feel a little better one day and I'd be like, oh, please let that be me tomorrow.
And sure enough, the next day, I would feel a little better in whatever regard she was feeling better the day before.
Yeah.
But she had it just as bad as me.
And I don't know if we're sick of each other or not.
Probably not.
But we watched, we binge watch a lot of things.
sure and it was good you know we watched all of avenue five until until we get new episodes
and loved it so years later i finally watched the thing everybody told me to watch um what else we
watch you finally watched the thing that i recommend told a couple uh like a month ago yeah and then
almost recommended it this week so i'm glad i'm glad that came up um what else uh there was
something else oh and then last i was this is actually what i did want to mention this um last night i
watched that new, I forgot the name of it.
Spirited.
Spirited, thank you.
I keep getting mixed up with Enchanted for some reason.
Yeah, which is another thing.
It's a big musical take on the Dick and Story, the Scrooge thing.
And I went in actually very low expectation.
I didn't think I was going to like it.
I just thought this is a little too much.
You've been burned by Scrooge's.
I have been burned.
Comptly comedic take on.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I know there are a lot of people love Scrooge.
I think Scrooge is kind of bad.
and so know that about me going in here but i like generally speaking i like these kind of things i like
adaptations of the christmas carol sure um and i like when they get creative and go different directions
or whatever this is that and it's very good and it's a musical and if you don't like musicals i
think you might still like it because i don't generally love musicals i don't mind them um but
this one really worked for me and i thought will feral and ryan reynolds and um tracy morgan of all people
Oh, really? Okay. I didn't know. The only two people I knew that were on this are Ryan and Will Ferrell. So cool. And you'll see a bunch of people. There's a bunch of cameos and a bunch of other people you didn't expect to see it. It's subversive. It takes the whole thing and flips it on its head in some ways. It does some weird world building I didn't expect. I was surprised how much I liked it. It was pretty great. How would I compare it to? I mean, I would probably put it right up with Muppets. Muppets is my favorite of the Christmas Carol things. Which brings me to this
final point, and that is this. So I'm not going to spoil anything or say anything else,
except it's wonderful and you should see it. It's an Apple TV Plus. It's an Apple original.
Sure.
Oh, Octavia Spencer's really good in it, too.
Oh, cool. Cool. Oh, that's right. I didn't know that she was in that. Yeah.
She's a very different thing for her, and she's got pipes. That girl can sing.
Cool. Anyway, something happened, and I'd love to blame it on COVID, but I can't blame this
on COVID. I'm watching it, and I'm like, how can they just keep showing the one Marley guy?
Where's the other Marley?
Like, where's,
Hey, Jake,
Jacob Marley,
where's your brother?
How can me,
this movie decided not to have anything with the brother?
And I went,
oh,
shit, Scott,
this is all in your head.
This is because the Muppets took the two dudes in the balcony and made them
Marley and Marley.
Oh,
gotcha.
I was like,
I don't remember a Marley brother.
So Statler and Waldorf and the Muppets Christmas Carol were.
Yeah,
they do their home.
We're Marley and Marley.
They're like,
they basically,
that,
that,
the Muppet one took.
liberties and said, well, what if they were
brothers? And we'll use Statler and
Waldorf as the brothers, and it'll be funny.
And it was, and it's great. It's a perfect way to use
those two. But I had so cemented
that in my head
that when I see any other version of this,
I'm bugged that there's only one
dude in there. That there's
just Jacob Marley, and that's it.
So the Muppets have, not ruined,
but the Muppets have altered.
Have altered your, right, what you think is
is Christmas story
or Christmas Carol lore.
Yeah, Muppet alteration has occurred in my head.
And I'm not sure I can change it.
But Kim's looking to me like, what are you talking about?
I'm like, aren't there two?
She's like, I think you're thinking.
And what happened to the 17 ghosts of Christmas past and future and present?
The ghost of Christmas trash cans or the ghost of Christmas imaginary elephant-looking things.
Of course, all those things.
What happened to the little red one you can tickle?
The ghost of Christmas throwing fish.
What happened to that guy?
Oh, now that guy.
Bring him back.
But anyway, it was really fun.
fun. I think you all should see it.
We were going to watch it this weekend and we've not gone to a drag show last night.
Oh, that was a drag show.
It was a drag show.
That was not a woman that you were looking at that photo I sent you.
And I couldn't do much more than that because they had a relatively strict no phone rule.
Although you'd think they'd be like, oh yeah, if you like what you see, take a picture of us.
But it was, we went to a.
Was it because of the shooting?
I wondered about the.
as a geriatric drag show.
Oh, geez.
There was no performer there under the age of 50.
Most of them were in their 70s.
Do you think they were weird about cameras because of the shooting over in Colorado Springs?
No, no, because they actually did talk about that separately.
You could not, right?
I mean, you know, you're going to a drag show with several transgender performers,
not just men in drag, but actual transgender performers.
and so that that absolutely came up several times during the show as like in a moment of silence
and and you know talking about people that they knew who were there and bartenders and stuff
like that so that was that was heavy duty but yeah i i've been to two other drag shows here
in denver place called hamburger mary's which is really cool uh and then a place in norleans
Tina, when we were there in February
that was also a drag show.
Is the hamburger
Marys one, the one
with the guy that...
Yes, the jeller shots on the bare butt
cheeks guy. Yeah, okay, I remember this now.
Yes, that's what I said to know that.
And all three
of those experiences, the performers
actually sang to a
pre-recorded track, like it was a karaoke
track with no vocals, and the performers
sang. Yeah. In
99% of the performances
last night were lip-sinking.
and in some cases
it was almost as if
the performers had never heard the song
they were lip syncing to before
it's like when you're
that classic scene from Tommy Boy
when it's the end of the world as we know it
by REM comes on in the car
and they're like
that's great it starts with an earthquake
Bruce is not a freedom
it's kind of like
what the lip syncing was like
wow
that's unfortunate i thought that stuff was always live singing i guess i guess not i thought so too and
we had another we one of our friends that went is an actual uh performer who did some
performing as a drag queen before and and we were talking about that and they said oh yeah no and
most of the shows i've been to it is they they are lip syncing i'm thinking wow then we've just
been lucky and gone to ones where the performers actually had some pipes and singing and that sort
of thing but sure it was still a really really good show anyway that's good how many uh did
And, oh, what was I going to say?
What does it cost to get into it over 50?
This was for a charity event.
It was for, normally they do Parkinson's disease because one of the main performers actually performs,
and she has Parkinson's.
Although I don't know if she's transgender, so I don't know.
It could be misgendering him or her.
Because some people are just there to get up on stage performing and they go home.
and play dad and do all the normal...
Right, right.
Anyway, it was $5, and then of course you bring a couple $20 bills,
turn those into singles, and then they either walk around
or you go up to the stage in the case of the 85 and 90-year-old drag
performers, go up to the stage and hand them the dollars,
and they just drop it in a bucket.
They're not coming out to the fringe of the stage anymore.
They're not going to go out and work the crowd,
because it's got to be something like the extended version.
version of in a gada de vita for them to have enough time to make it through the rows of tables to
get around hats off to him though for performance for sure oh yeah it was a great it was a really
good performance and they were like yeah we were trying to decide if we were going to cancel the night's
show and we said nope the show must go on we're not going to hide we're not going to um
cower down we're going to especially because this is for such a good cause that we're going to
you know we're going to do it yeah if that shooter kid um real quick here did you know the
Did you know that one of the symptoms of your friends getting severe COVID is that you don't get your car for a week?
Were you aware of that?
Yeah, I'm very, very aware of that, Scott.
Yeah, we got back from Orange County and I was all excited to, well, let me be excited, but anticipating having to lift that Friday after we got back to start making some money back for the trip.
And on the first ride, the first lift ride that morning, the check engine light comes on.
Like, while I'm actually in the middle of a ride.
And then the car definitely feels throttle.
Like, I was going 55 on a, you know, on this road.
All of a sudden, it's like I cannot get the car to go over 30 or 40 unless I'm going downhill.
I'm like, well, this is crap.
So I get the guy to where he needs to go and shut off lift and then pull up, you know, both Google to look up the code and also immediately
get online to the dealership that I usually go to for service and say, all right, you know, I've got a problem.
I need to bring it there now.
What's, how soon can we look at it?
And it's basically like, oh, it's Friday?
Cool.
The soonest we can see you is Wednesday.
Oh, geez.
Really?
All right.
So I then get Midas, which is the second place that we normally go.
Yeah.
Tell them the store and they're like, oh, yeah, no, bring it in now.
We can actually take a look.
We can do the, we can do the diagnostics and figure out what the problem is.
Get it there and kind of, you know, as somebody described in the chat, limp mode, with my hazards on, basically taking as many streets where I don't need to go over 35 or 40, get it there.
They run the code and say, okay, well, here we go.
Here's the code.
It's a P1, 326.
They basically plug in a little machine into the little thing in the car.
Right.
And they say, okay, well, it's either being caused by this recall.
Recall, recall, that was for the wiring harness sensor to basically, it's a sensor that determines if your car, your engine is knocking, if it's got a lot of movement.
Sure.
And so it's either this recall that causes this problem, or your engine is knocking and it's, you know, shaking and you're going to throw a rod and die.
Damn.
In the middle of the highway or something.
So I'm like, oh, okay, well, I'm not sure I'm pretty sure I had all the recalls done unless this is a new one.
And they said, yeah.
So if you just take it to your dealership, they'll, you know, if it's the recall, they're certified to perform that recall.
It'll be, it'll cost you nothing.
And then if it's not, then, you know, you're already there to have it solved.
Sure.
So I, then I actually call and speak to somebody at the dealership.
And I say, hey, here's the deal.
It could either be this recall thing or it could be a much bigger issue.
and the person I speak to there
or I'm really frustrated with
says oh no problem
I can actually get you in today to look at that
can you get it here
in the next hour I'm like yes
and so I arrange a tow truck
I have it I'm not going to drive it
at this point I tow it from
Midas to the dealership
and I let them know they're like
okay let us know when it's going to arrive you don't
need to be here with it when it arrives
but let us know
when it's on its way and what the towing
company is and that sort of thing.
That sounds like people are on it.
To me, that sounds like they're ready.
They're rocking.
Does, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure it went great after that.
So I do my part, Scott, and I have the car towed there.
And I called them and I let them know who's bringing it.
And I tell them, oh, it's just arrived.
You should be seeing the guy right now.
Like, great.
Okay, sounds good.
We'll let you know what we find out when we do the diagnostics.
That was early afternoon, Friday.
Yeah.
And Friday afternoon, that was the last I heard from them.
I called to check and say, hey, if you had a chance to look at it, called late afternoon.
Nope.
Okay.
What about, you know, Saturday morning?
Nope, no response.
Like, not even a call back, not even a response to say, oh, sorry, we haven't had a chance to look at it.
Just no communication whatsoever.
Just nothing.
Nothing.
Monday, I call, hey, just want to make sure you got my car.
oh yeah we got it
this time I'm talking to a different person
I'm talking to a person whose name I'm not going to say
sure
yep we got it haven't had a chance to look at it yet
okay
do you know when you're going to be able to
yeah I don't know could be
could be later
what
Free Rangers their hours they are open from 8 to noon
on Saturday so they're you know they could have
they could have had a chance to look at it on Saturday
yeah
and I'll kind of
shortened this to a, you know, shorter
story, even though it's too late for me
not to make a long story short.
But so far, we're on day whatever
nine of me not having the car.
They,
Carfax basically
tells them that, okay, whenever I didn't
take it to them for an oil change,
those things should still
be reported in Carfax. But apparently
some early
visits I made to
Jiffeylube
didn't get logged into
Carfax with my oil changes. So there's a couple early gaps in the requirement that I need to have
taken my car for service every X,000 number of miles in order to keep it under warranty.
If this thing's under warranty, this engine issue is relatively free for me. I pay for a couple hundred
bucks and couple fixes kind of thing. If not, we're looking at a $6,500 cost. And I did poop my pants
when they told me that.
And apparently the guy there,
I don't know if he's just been sitting on his hands or doing whatever,
but it's like he's been waiting for me to like say,
let's get this thing fixed,
even though that's kind of what I said on Monday and Tuesday.
Oh, on the Friday before,
and every call that I've placed,
let's get this thing fixed and I'll figure out the either warranty or whatever.
So finally, Friday, I actually drive there.
Because he's not returning my calls.
He's not doing anything.
I just get Tina's car and I drive to the freaking dealership and I get in his face.
And I say, okay, number one, let's get the process started.
Oh, okay.
Well, I have to order the parts and they're probably going to be five to seven business days.
And five to seven business days on a week where a couple of those business days are not business days because of Thanksgiving and probably the Friday after.
Right.
It's like, well, what have you?
Why didn't you order?
the parts the day i like you know yeah why didn't this happen when the problem was yeah when
when the when you had all the excited person who said bring it down we'll take care of it what why not then
yeah and he is so freaking vague and grunting these one word answers to me when i'm trying to say
all right well what's the process then with getting key to pay for this so i actually i want to
get this in writing so i emailed you have i have his email address emailed him and ccd the
the GM of the shop, of the dealership, and said,
here's my exact email really quickly.
While we're waiting for the parts to come in for my 2014 Kia Soul,
I'm going to be calling Kia from the number you gave me yesterday
to talk to them about this being covered under warranty.
A couple questions, so I'm prepared for the call.
Have they already said they won't be covering the partial cost of the repair?
Or have you not submitted anything while I've been finding the records of the gaps in the Carfax report?
Does a payment request get submitted to them at the end of the repair process?
So the three questions right there.
Also, can you give me a better description of what's specifically wrong with the engine so I can be more educated about it when I talk to them, question mark?
So far, we know the diagnostic return to P-1326 code, and you said there was some scoring in the combustion chamber, but I need to know more when I talk to them.
They must hate it.
When their customers know their homework, they must hate this.
They must.
So, you know, that's a fairly detailed and a lot of questions in that email.
I got a response a couple hours later.
I'm putting it in our Discord because I'd like you to read the nine-word response that I got back from the service manager.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
Do you see it in Discord?
Oh, hold on.
It's not popping.
Why, am I in the wrong group?
Oh, maybe you're in the wrong group.
I'm in the wrong group.
Oh, my gosh.
this is it, this is all you got. Yes, this is the response I got. Yes, that, that the correct of the cylinder wall uscored.
What the hell happened? Did he break?
That is the response that I got to four very well thought out questions that would have helped me with my call to, uh, to Kia service.
Oh my gosh, dude. I mean, that's not even, did you look at it when you hit send? Like, what, what did he do? I did. I read it like, like, what, what did he did? I did. I read it, like,
I read it, it didn't take very long
because that's nine words, but I read
that thing over
and over to like, oh,
can I parse some additional
answers to my questions out of these
nine horribly
put together words that...
Look at this chat room. I just put it up in the chat
so I can read it in whole letters. Yes,
the correct, the cylinder
wall, a scored.
I don't even
know how to it. I can't even start to interpret that.
I know. I mean, he's just basically
saying yes that's correct the cylinder wall is scored and and even like if that is the response then
that's amazing yeah oh my god so yeah so my anger right now is you know i'm at i'm at defcon before
probably right now and uh yeah uh and his cc by the way when he replied he didn't reply back to
the the gm it was just just back to me of course he did because of course he did and in the complete
in the continual lack of
professionality,
dude doesn't know how to reply to all
or probably doesn't want to
because, you know,
his boss has already broke in with this.
Right, exactly. He certainly doesn't want to show
his, you know,
ability to provide
real good customer service back to his GM.
So as it stands right now,
are they going to,
how long do you have to wait now?
Do you know what the progress is?
I mean,
I'm still waiting for parts to come in.
I'm going to talk to Kia service today
and appeal to them and say,
look, here's the deal.
I did take it in for regular service
during that time, Jiffy Lube split into two franchises here in Denver a few years ago,
and they don't have records that go far enough back.
Lame.
And they're the only ones, I mean, I can put in, I can go into Carfax, and I can say,
but it's going to say, user-added, you know, these user-added oil change description on this date,
and user-added oil change description on this date.
but at least, you know, Jiffy Lube would be able to make it look official,
or it would be official from Jiffy Lube.
Right.
Anyway. Wow, dude, that sucks.
So I'm, you know, and if it, I just got to, I've got to get the car back.
I haven't been able to lift.
This would have been a great week for me to lift while you were sick
because I could be working every day.
Yeah, no, it was perfect.
Like, I mean, sure, you could have taken the car and winged it,
but you shouldn't have to.
Plus, they should have been way better than this.
That's bad.
Why does it feel like all these kinds of companies are bad,
right now. I know they've always not been great, but it feels like it's a little worse.
Yes. You know? Like the guy Applebee's gave you a hard, gave you a hard time. The dude of the
Jiffy Loob sucks. It seems like all of these like walk in, have your shit done places are in a
weird place right now. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I don't like it. We had 10 and I had the last,
you know, seven years. We only keep the last seven years of, of, of bills and invoices because of tax
returns and stuff. But we had that like spread out all over the dining room table, like going
item by item trying to find those
things. And sadly, the ones they're looking
for would be
before that time. So
Damn, dude. Yeah. It's like
whatever, I'm prepared to friggin' eat the
cost if I have to. I don't want to, but
I'm going to do what I can. I'm going to call Kia today and say
hey, can you help her brother out?
Yeah, dude. When Brian told
me this kind of short version of this on text,
I was kind of, I was actually
livid because I hate
car shit. And Kim goes, what's the matter? I go,
Brian's story is now our story.
It's everyone's story.
We should all be pissed at this.
Freaking F-car people.
That's so bad.
Oh, my gosh.
Well, anyway, I hope it's resolved soon.
We are going to also resolve another part of our lives.
And it begins with this.
Hey, look who it is.
Brian Dunaway is joining us here on the old show,
doing a little half-asses with us here on a Monday.
Hi, Brian.
Welcome back.
A ye old show.
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
hi oh hi hi we missed you yeah we missed you you know i miss you guys yeah well we talked to you
saturday so we really miss you it was okay well i guess so fine i don't miss it all then
all right forget it goodbye you talk me you talk me out of it i'm i'm no longer miss you
well it's good to have you here we're gonna play uh play some half asses and uh do it kind of
a weird it's almost uh 10 o'clock but we don't care all right today's weird we don't
have uh normal stephen we got dan sitting in for him a little bit later oh we do okay
yeah he's good so we're we're all good even uh dan dan dan steven uh dan
Stephen. Hey, let's get straight to it. Brian, explain this game what Brian and I have to do and who might win some prizes today. I don't know.
I'll tell you all of those things. Welcome to the morning, half asses, a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving Scott and Brian the answers. I'm going to give him a category and six possible answers. Three of those answers are correct. Three of those answers are bogus. Depending on how confident you feel with the category. You can give me one, two or three guesses. But if any of those guesses are wrong, you get zero points for that round. Getting one right gets a point. Getting two or two.
right gets you three points and getting all three
correct gets you five points but if you get
any of them wrong you get zero
player with the most points after three rounds
wins the prize for their contestant
and I pulled a couple contestants for members
of the tadpool that aren't able to be here
live Scott you're going to be playing for
Jostin in Oslo Norway
oh okay oh Norway
oh nice Norway and Brian
you're going to be playing for Danny in
Columbia Maryland
Oh Danny
Columbia
It's not quite Columbia
South Carolina, but it's not
It's a whole different Columbia.
Yeah.
But it's also not Colombia of South America.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's true.
It isn't a whole different state.
That's true.
All right. So, let's get to this and I'll tell you the
prizes after we play
the game. First category, sirs, for you.
Okay. Let's go history.
World history, because I know you love world history.
Yeah, I'm big fan.
Codenames for D-Day beaches.
So, you know, the beaches that they landed
on D-Day, June 6th.
On D-Day.
On D-Day.
Here are your choices.
Utah.
Silver, Tallon, Cross, Juneau, and Sword.
Well, I know two of these for sure.
Okay.
I might go three.
I feel like I know three.
I'm going to really wing it here with the three.
Okay.
You know, with three?
You know, I've been really sick.
With the one.
I'm sure my mind's not addled enough
Is it be a problem?
Right, exactly.
This is fine.
I forget.
COVID morning half-asses.
Post-COVID morning half-asses should be great.
All right.
Utah.
You guys both locked in on Utah.
Yeah, of course, Utah.
Utah.
Yeah.
I think that was the code for Normandy was Utah.
I think so as well, right?
I think so, but I can't be sure.
And Juno, Scott, you also said that is correct as well.
But Talon is not correct.
correct. Brian gets a point because he just settled on Utahans. Yeah. Yeah. But Sword, Utah, Juno, and Sword are the three that we're looking for.
So, you know what? It's not even retrospect. Does that sound right? Sword sounds just wrong to me, but I guess it clearly. Because Utah and Juno makes sense, but then Sword. It's like, and then Sword. It's like, and then Sword. Yeah. Oh, well. That's all right. That's right. There's still a chance. And then tip.
Let's go to something that's even more important than world history, something that's even more reflective of who we are as a culture and as a society.
Question number two is Justin Bieber songs.
Which of these are actual Justin Bieber songs?
Choices are, ee-meany, one less lonely girl.
You're just in time, catching feelings.
I heart emoji love and so sophisticated.
Which of these are actual
Justin Bieber
Sundance?
It can't be your just in time.
It can't be.
Right, nobody...
Oh, shit.
E meanie?
I'm doing one.
I can't...
Doing one.
Too lucky I'm giving you to that.
I don't know any of these things.
All right, you guys are both locked in.
Scott, you've got one less lonely girl.
And bribe, bribi, you've got eye emoji.
a heart emoji love.
I love love.
I guess one of you is correct.
One of you is incorrect.
And it's Scott this time.
Yeah.
Well done.
A point for Scott.
And no points for Brian.
There's an Eni-Meany song.
That sounds.
There is a song called Eni-Meany.
I almost did the Eni-Meany.
It felt right.
Ine-mini, one less lonely girl and catching feelings.
I hate everything about this list.
It gave me a bad case of the feelings.
Yeah.
That's right.
Exactly.
He was singing something about a ghost yesterday.
That's popular right now, I think.
Some ghost song.
Yeah.
But I don't follow Bieber.
Well, there was that song that he did a couple years ago, or maybe last year that I kind of liked, which was, I'm not even going to bother trying to remember the lyrics or singing it, but it's like, you know, talking about, I get my oranges.
Where a friend?
No, it was like a recent, like Justin Bieber with his, with his pedophile mustache going on.
Yeah, his pet a stash.
It always makes me laugh because I'll hear a Bieber song and I'm like, hey, that's not a bad song.
And then I'm like, who sings that?
Oh.
Right.
Yeah, it totally is.
It totally is like, oh.
I don't even know.
I don't even think I hate him.
I just don't follow.
I just don't know.
But I got a point.
So, hey, Bieber and I.
You got a point.
So, all right.
We are going into the last question tied.
I love this.
God loves Bieber.
Yeah.
And let's go to our first president and, you know, cut down the cherry.
tree. We'll not tell a lie, all that
stuff. Oh, I'm talking about
George Washington. Come on now.
I'm kidding.
George...
So not 16. Okay.
George had some dentures.
But what were those dentures made from?
Three of these are things
that George Washington had dentures
made from. Are they? Donkey teeth.
Frosted glass. Gold.
Hippo ivory.
Sandstone and pine wood.
Let me ask you this.
Three of these things are real.
Are all three of these made up
one set of dentures or are we talking three sets of dentures three sets of dentures like so basically
he probably tried this one and said oh that didn't work and then tried this other one is oh that
didn't work or yeah all right well i'm going all in because why not i'm guessing i'm going to
i'm going all half half asses okay oh gosh i hope that's right all right oh i love this i love this all right
Gold, you guys both settled on gold.
And he did have teeth made of gold.
A set of dentures that were made out of gold.
The original gangster.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
His grill.
George Washington's grill.
Scott, you also said donkey teeth.
Yeah.
Guess what?
He did have a set of dentures made from donkey teeth.
Really?
Sweet.
Brian said hippo ivory.
Yeah.
And yes, he did have, really, stayed from hippo ivory.
That is hilarious.
Apparently not.
That's a lie.
I would have thought that, you know, we always hear about, oh, yeah, did you hear George Washington wooden teeth?
No, apparently not.
Yeah, I heard that was a lie.
At least not had wooden teeth.
See, I thought that was true.
I didn't know.
Sandstone, probably one of the, well, a tie between sandstone and frosted glass as to the worst things you could have ditches made from.
What is hippo ivory, like straight off a hippo's horn or hippo's teeth?
Hi, hippos, uh, tusks.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I don't ever think of those as a thing you'd want to keep.
They're so gnarly and, like, steady.
Right, because they're so short.
Yeah, you just,
If you, if you, uh, sand the outside of it, I guess it's probably just fine ivory inside it.
I guess so.
Brian, you scored big time on yours.
Geez, Louise us.
Right.
So off of my like three in a row, zeros.
And then last week I got a one.
And this week, I win.
Oh, you've redeemed yourself, my friend.
You've redeemed yourself.
How do you feel?
Who, actually, who was Scott getting COVID?
I'm sticking advantage of Scott's COVID brain for as long as you can.
Who had, who's our big winner then of these team fine people?
Our big winner is going to be Danny in Columbia, Maryland.
Congratulations, Danny.
You're getting a copy of Book of Demons and System Shock Enhanced Edition on Steam.
But Justine in Norway, you're not going away empty-handed.
You're getting Driftland, the Magic Revival on Steam.
All of these are good.
Courtesy of Weisler.
They're all excellent games.
In particular, the one, the two that you'd mentioned for our winner today,
let me pull it back up.
Book of Demons and System Shock.
Book of Demons is the raddest little weird game.
It's like Diablo, but turn-based, but everything's made of paper.
I can't even explain it.
It's the weirdest, coolest game.
So he truly did win.
Made a paper.
Yeah, made a paper.
You ever seen paper?
Congratulations.
You're a winner.
Congratulations.
To both of you, really.
And mostly to Brian Dunaway for coming back and hanging out with us today.
It's been a real treat.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah.
Thanks for doing that, man.
Tomorrow we'll finally get around to an episode of Play Retro we've been holding
on to for a week and a half.
And that'll be finally happening.
We're talking about Balders Gate one and two.
Oh, cool.
If you're a fan of the Balders Gate and original bioware games,
you're going to be stoked about that.
Plus, we got a third one on its way,
and so it seemed like a good time to talk about it.
That'll be on Play Retro,
where all your retro video game news and talk happens
over at FrogPants.com slash Play Retro.
Brian Dunaway, do you have anything else you'd like to offer
to the fine people here right now?
I'm glad you feeling bitter, Scott.
Thanks, man. You too. No you.
No you.
what I meant by I mean of the COVID's in our groups I think maybe me and Dunaway had the most
similar experience yeah I think so too but I think he had it prior to maybe there was one
Vax when he got it I don't remember maybe yeah mine's the BA freaking Q whatever the new one is
right and I you know I had a crappy flu experience but even that still wasn't you know that
plus the two booster sicknesses or after effects that I got,
I still don't think even came close to one day of the crap you went through.
Plus it was like, what a shitty bunch of turn of events?
Brian gets the flu.
Yeah.
And he's all sick and down.
So we, you know, thankfully I had some co-host step in.
I'm thinking, yeah, I got the flu shot plus all these boosters.
That doesn't matter what happens to me.
I'm going to Texas next week.
everything's going to be great just all of it then your car thing i just feel like the the i don't know
the sirens are out to get us right now but you know and if i weren't i'm such a happy go lucky
guy scott i like to let this stuff just kind of roll off my back but when you feel less lucky
the happy go lucky doesn't work as well no the happy goes a little bit and the lucky leaves
that's right yeah and then nobody's logan lucky all right let's do that oh quick follow-up
Was it you that said I should watch the
Channing Tatum
What's her name?
Rom-com thing out in the jungle?
Oh, no, it definitely wasn't me.
That was Randy who recommended
Sandra Bullock, Channing Tatum, Lost City.
Lost City, is that it?
Yeah.
Okay.
That was, we watched that.
That was great.
That was a good time.
That's a thing that's better
than it has any right to be
100%.
100%.
clone of
uh...
uh...
uh...
romancing the stone basically
yeah
and the last
I think the final
last bit is real stupid
and kind of formulate
but
everything up to that
like the comedy is like
legit
and it made me like
uh what's his
hunky more
than I used to before
yeah
this is a good time
and kind of Brad Pitt
for that matter
yeah and I didn't even know
he was in it
that was a big surprise
amazing little short roll
and I thought um
uh
Harry Potter was really good in it
again
his name Dan
a ragcliffe.
Degger Radcliffe is the villain.
Yeah.
He was really funny and interesting and, you know, different than I expected.
So anyway, that's not a bad movie to spend your time with.
I liked it.
All right.
Let's take a break.
When we come back, Dan, Dan the Tabletop Man.
Yeah, that's right.
Steven's out for the week for his holiday, starting early.
He's doing some traveling, seeing some family.
And we'll not be here today.
So we've got Dan stepping in.
We're going to talk a couple of things.
I got a couple of COVID treatment questions for this guy.
Oh, interesting.
We'll recommend some board games.
Don't worry, okay?
We've got your tabletop ideas in mind.
Before all that, though, Brian's got a song when you got to play it.
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Sirnax. Interesting. Does that mean Snap is part of the
MCU? Or I wouldn't think so, right? No, it really doesn't. I guess it's not really
MCU. I just didn't want to say Marvel World again, even though that's what they had in the
text. Marvel, Marvel, Marvel. I was like, yeah, MCU. But there's, you know, there's no,
there's, so far, none of the cards have, like, the actor, they look like
the actors who've played the parts. It's very much based on the comic. I was
wondering if they were going to do any at a crossover on that certainly could right i mean we could see
that i was surprised we didn't see that with wakonda forever or anything like that sure yeah
they'll probably have more crossover as time goes on yeah anyway let's do a song what do you got over
there i have got a song scott for you that's uh by a band from detroit they're an experimental
slash noise rock band but don't be afraid of that this is really cool they have a uh sophomore
album called tragic comedy which just came out this last weekend
So this is brand new.
The song is called Fortune Teller.
Here are The Messenger Birds.
Feel you tired in my grief.
How could I still be so paralyzed and depressed?
Well, happiness is a thin mess.
Go put through the pain blast.
It often blamed you for the mess.
When everything looks dead, it's hard to feel alive.
I leave the little house, I don't want to go outside.
Can't escape my torture to you.
Everything I think keeps coming true.
Got no plans, nothing to do.
Throw my life away.
I wanted to
If I covered up both eyes, you'd call that a fair fight,
Let's get this over quick
The bad news comes in an onslaught
Well body's piling up
We're gonna need a bigger ditch
I swear I take my best to meet you where you're at.
I'm on keys if you've got a better plan.
Can't escape my torture you.
Everything I think keeps coming true.
Got no plans, nothing to do.
Through our life away,
Because I want to
Now I'm loving on a deficit
It's a feeling that I'm following
All I want to do is give in
I just got nothing to give
Can't escape
torture to you
Everything I think
He's coming true
Got no plans
My thing to do
Do my life away
Because I wanted to
Now loving on a deficit
It's a feeling
That I'm borrowing
All I wanted to
Is giving
I just got nothing to give
Used to be in the olden days
That it was okay when Miss America waved you
And her underarm waved back
These aren't tentacles, they're genticles!
but that boy's going to get a whoop in anyway.
And we have returned, because I can't remember anything,
please repeat the name of that song.
Well, it's been three and a half minutes, God, I totally understand.
That is a song called Fortune Teller by Band,
The Messenger Birds, from their brand new album, Tragic Comedy.
Very, very nice.
It's a great little contradictory term.
I like that.
It is.
uh oxymorons right tragic comedy yeah if i was naming a band i would aim for something similar
to that i think sure like wet rain i would my uh my artist's name uh would be fitty centaur
oh i like fitty centaur that's pretty good fitty centaur i'd be we're gold chains and have a
horse's body walking up in the club we got my four legs in my club that's right exactly don't ask
me to rhyme today came up with that last week and i was going to draw it and i decided not
I'll just sit on it for when the moment arises in the moment.
You should have drawn it.
I would love that.
You got to draw it.
It's good.
Okay.
Maybe I'll still draw it.
All right.
Let me know how that goes.
We're going to bring in our old pal, Dan.
It's been a bit and always talking to him or talking to him is always fun, is what I meant to say.
So we're going to ring him, see if we can get him.
Let's get him.
He's a busy boy.
He's got stuff going on.
So we're going to see what we can do here.
Where the hell is his thing?
Oh, I know where.
Hold on.
I forgot.
We moved this for Dan.
Here's a tangent for him.
be careful may cause drowsiness that's right dan dan the tabletop man joining us after about a month or so
uh dan it's always good having you here thanks for stepping in today
greetings programs i'm uh extremely happy to be back i just actually got back from detroit yeah
what were you doing to detroit more uh hockey stuff or what's going on over there no actually
i was just visiting some buddies up there you know every now and then we do like a friend con
where we just kind of have like a a bunch of us just go to somebody's house and we just play games
for like three days.
That's great.
Do you call it FriendCon?
Like, do you have to get tickets in advance?
Well, so the guys are Matt Riddle and Ben Pinchback and Adam Hill.
So they're kind of from Motor City GameWorks.
So we call it kind of like Motor CityCon because they're off in Detroit.
But yeah, it's funny because they were going to, they made up like a little poster just for, you know, chits and giggles.
So it was a fun time, you know, because I haven't, it's hard to get together with people because everybody's busy.
Everybody's got stuff going on.
Nobody, you know, and everybody's got a little bit of the.
of the Johnson vid so nobody really wants to get sick so this stuff you plan far enough in advance
and you really look forward to it pretty much like all year so it was a it was a great time but man
it is cold as hell in the north but I'm not sure if you're aware of that yeah it's cold here
I can't imagine what it's like in Detroit right now it's got to be freezing I think it was like 18 one night
yeah and it snowed when we first got in so it's fine because down here in North Carolina it's kind
of coldish but sure I still sit you know in you know when the weather outside is frightful I still
sit here and work in my uh in my shorts and t-shirt as i you know work from home so sure sure
delightful i spent um i was only i was only in detroit for a little bit for for a layover so i've
never actually seen the city or anything but um it was in the middle of late october and i thought
it was cold and the guy i remember saying something as i was walking into the back into the place or
something and somebody heard me that lived there i said boy it's cold outside it's cold in detroit
and this guy laughed at me for like 10 minutes.
It's like you have no ideas.
Like basically just saying you have no idea.
It won't until it's winter.
Then it gets really cold.
But I don't know why he thought that was so damn funny that I was, you know,
Mr. Fish Out of Water thinking it was cold in Detroit.
I really like their airport, though.
The airport was rad.
It was cool.
Yeah, the airport does not give you a good indication of what Detroit is like
because it's one of the nicest airports I've ever been in my life.
Yeah.
It's really nice.
Like super nice and big, cavernous.
I went to work to the Detroit Free Press.
newspaper back in the day
and I could not
I could not tell you what the
maybe the airport didn't look great
in the 90s that could have easily been the case
it could have just been possible it has like a tram in the sky
too
oh yeah I definitely know I would remember that
wow let me tell you the worst
that I was in worst airport I ever went to
I've said on the show before was
was Dallas Fort Worth I hated it there
I don't know why I just hate that total runaround
I liked Denver for everything except for how big it was
because it just took forever to do anything
oh my god if you could walk for days
and not get to the other side of the Denver airport.
Yeah, it's bad, especially when United F's your flight up
and you got to run across both ways and then get on a tram and do it that way,
and it was a nightmare.
But I really like the airport in general.
The one, and ours finally kind of looks like here,
it's like we got our new one now, our 2.0, it looks real good.
But the one in Seattle, I thought, oh, I'll get here.
This will be some cool hipster shit, American Northwest, you know,
everybody's still thinking about Kirk Cobain and his impact.
and, you know, you're going to be Seattle, you know.
Everything's in flannel.
Yeah.
Or, you know, Microsoft's here.
Google's here.
Like all of that stuff.
I thought, well, this will just be reflected in the airport.
Nah, that place is a freaking dump.
It's a horrible airport.
It's garbage.
Anyway, no offense, Seattle.
I liked everything else about you.
Everything else about you sucked.
And the Phoenix one was also bad until recently, but they fixed a bunch of that up.
Anyway, we're not here to talk about airports.
Dan, I got a question for you.
It's COVID-related first.
Okay.
Pax Lovid.
We're going to talk about this just for a second.
So this was called like the, you know, if there was a miracle response to COVID, it was vaccinations.
And if there was a miracle treatment for active cases, it was seemed like Pax Lovid was all the talk there for a while.
Famously, both Trump and Biden received treatments of Pax Lovid to combat their stuff.
And I think even in Biden's case, his rebound version of the virus was attributed to the rare but side effect of sometimes Pax Lovid causing rebounds.
And he didn't have a symptomatic rebound, but he did test positive for it months later.
And they attributed it to Pax Lovit.
Anyway, so there's this whole story behind the drug.
It's like, think Tama flu for the flu.
It's meant to combat.
It's a perfect way to describe it.
It's supposed to combat like the hardcore, severe symptoms, keep you out of the hot.
hospital basically. And my doctor had reservations about it. And I talked to a couple of doctor
friends, Dan being one of them, who on the pharmaceutical side also said, yeah, it's for the worst
cases. You know, it's not this for our grandparents. Like maybe not, you know, if you, if you don't
feel like you're going to die, you maybe, maybe not. And I had to say the same thing, my own doctor
included. And so I got the prescription. I have the box upstairs. And it sat here the whole time
without me taking it.
My question is this, in the delirium of the hideous freaking fever nightmare shit show that
was my week last week, how would one know whether they should take it or not?
Or how would they know if their stuff is bad, bad enough to like, oh, yeah, this is a
Paxilovic case, take that thing, like go for it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, well, and nowadays, getting COVID is still kind of rare in people.
And if you get it, you're probably only going to get it once for it.
a long time.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like for you probably won't have a severe effect or severe case of it for, you know,
a year, two years or such.
So if you've already got it and your symptoms have just started and, let's just say you
test or, you know, if your symptoms have started, you know you have COVID and it's within,
you know, the time of flu was really within like the first 36 hours.
And they say apex all of it is within like five days.
Yeah. I'm not sure I buy that.
I think that's kind of like early testing.
Hey, we have some data for this.
so we can claim it.
Yeah.
So I'm still thinking, just because the way these drugs work with these kind of antivirals,
like I'm still thinking you're really looking at 36 to 48 at best hours as far as they're
going to be the peak effect of helping you.
So it's really going to decrease the severity of it.
And like you said, keep you out of the hospital.
So the people that are really going to want to get this or the people that are high risk
for the big side effects, if you have underlying, especially if you have things like asthma
and just severe diabetes or other conditions that are just going to make you at higher risk to have higher side effects from having COVID.
Those are going to be the people that are really going to want it.
Kind of like what I always say about like the flu shot.
Like I tell everybody to get the flu shot, but who is really effective for are the people that get the flu a few times a year.
It's going to decrease the length and severity of your flu.
It may not do anything for, you know, those of us that just don't really ever get the flu, but it's still kind of good to have.
packs a little of it. I'm not sure if the benefits to a healthy person now weighs the risk,
and it's generally pretty expensive. Scott, was it covered fully or did, I mean, not to,
that was the interesting thing. No, no, no. I'm glad you brought that up because
you and Tolbert and a bunch of others had said it's very, very expensive and hardly any
insurances cover it. So I'm like, well, I'm going to at least ask about it. And in this case,
they claimed anyway, we got it for free, first of all. And we have terrible insurance. So I
like, well, how did we get it for free?
Apparently, it is still covered by the U.S. government as a quick response, part of the
quick response program that they have around COVID, whatever that is now.
I don't know if it's state by state or if it's like a, I have no idea.
It might be because a lot of those things are going away because you started to see a lot
of the free testing start going away because they weren't really reimbursing a lot from the
government.
And same thing with like some of the immunizations were that were starting.
you weren't seeing it as much because they weren't paying as much
or paying at all. So it must be state by
state or, again,
I'm not in retail anymore, so it's hard to say, I can't
say for fact what, with some of the
prices of us. I just had, kept reading,
kept hearing that this was
a pretty expensive med, but it's good that
they're not charging as much still.
I mean, passes the, you know, the
government's writing all that crap off and, you know,
who is, I don't know if it's Pfizer,
or whoever makes this, is probably getting
fat on nose checks, but
it's great that, I mean, if you've got
really probably you could have been good because you could have been good to take it because
and of course you can just hold on to it uh you know you don't hold on to it too long it's it's
probably got like a two year you know on the on the prescription buy a bottle if they put it in
a bottle it'll say automatically like no don't take this after one year that's a this kind of
a pharmacy law because once it's not in a controlled state you can't really go by the expiration
date on the bottle itself but really that's probably going to be a few years so you can hold
on to that uh keep it out of uh the reach of children of course oh yeah uh i mean i
I'm going to do it. I'm hanging on to it in case one of these comes back.
Two years from now, let's say, big one happens.
I think I'm taking it day one.
Yeah. And also, I mean, you don't ever want to share meds with family.
That's my official, you know, or family or friends.
That's my official stance on this.
But since you have a larger family, it may not be a bad idea to keep it on hand.
I'm not going to, as a pharmacist, tell you not to give it to them.
No, no, no. I get, hey, hey, I'm winking right here as you're talking about.
I'm winking right back at you.
No, that makes sense.
Like, if my mom caught this, which we, you know, purposely avoided yesterday because we were still showing positive.
We didn't go to the big family 30-person get-together.
And my mom's 84 and I already breathes funny.
I don't think she, this would be bad.
And so if she got it, I would probably run this out to her.
Well, you would make sure she checks with her doctor first because she, being 84, having underlying conditions, you want to make sure she checks all the boxes.
And again, the benefits have to outweigh the risks, which they more than likely will.
But I'm 100% honest here.
I wouldn't just give it to her and tell her to take it without checking what a doctor.
Now, if her is willing to let her take it, like if he says, yeah, you would benefit and you don't have any of the risk that I would, you know, as far as, you know, kidney liver, blah, blah, blah, like all the things that would be bad to take it.
Then I would say, yeah, go ahead and give her yours instead of having her having to go buy it.
But as long as he's as long as the doc is okay with that, again, not.
my official stance, but I'm really, you know,
that I'm going to tell you that, you know, before you do
that, like the official part is let her
check with her doctor. The unofficial part is the
do not give it to her if he says it's okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.
I totally get it. Let me ask you this, though. This is a final
thing, and this is nothing to do with any of this. I just
thought it was funny, and maybe you could give me
some insight. Last time I went
in for a full blood work thing,
it was some mixed
results. One of them was like, well, your cholesterol
is a little high, but, you know, we see you got a family
history and that. We're going to work on that with this and then.
the other and you know and this is a little high and this is normal and this normal most of
it was normal holding steady on the blood shug thing like all that stuff's looking good and he says at
the end um and this is in writing that i got this report back it says your kidneys are incredible
and i didn't know quite how to i didn't know quite how to take that like he no because
they can look at your serum creatinine and then there's all these different calculations they can
see your creatin in clearance is that your kidneys work very, very well, which is great to know,
especially, you know, with things like cholesterol and, you know, kind of, you know, kind of diabetes,
pre-diabetes, things like that. So, I mean, it's good that those are working well because
kidneys are kind of a lot of times one of the first things that are affected by things like diabetes
and some of the meds. And some of the meds that you've taken into past are renal protective,
like some of the ACE inhibitors and the ARBs are renal protective, which is good. So that kind of
helps out that as well. But the other thing I want to say is,
if you've got COVID tests at home, Scott,
I wouldn't even bother testing anymore
because you're only wasting them.
I would wait,
I would hold on to those to use them later
because it doesn't matter what you test
because you still don't want to be around anybody
for a little while anyway.
I mean, our goal is just trying to...
Negative or positive,
you're not going to want to be around people for a while,
so you might not be...
And you could still test positive
and you still may not have anything
that you can give to people,
especially since that fever's kind of gone away.
I mean, I know you're still kind of feel a little crudy
and a lot of that gunk that you're going to be
coughing and sneezing out for a few weeks because that's that's what i had and um and you're talking
about what done away had i had covid before uh anybody even knew a vaccine was in development that's
i remember that yeah uh cov yeah and you were talking about french fries and how gross french fries
were and they still are kind of like it depends and right now i'm kind of it's funny you know
you do little tests and stuff you're like oh uh you know these tastes pretty good i'm like
what oil do you guys use and the people look at you like what are you like well i'm trying to
find out like what makes the taste better than some of these other french fries
it tastes like ass you know so i mean again anyway staying away from french fries has helped my
waistline quite a bit but uh yeah but yeah i mean you'll you'll be coughing in uh that you know
your breath you'll be like man i used to be able to run like uh five miles and now like one
mile i'm out of breath and you're still not sick but it's just the recovery phase like
your uh maximum o2 uh you know your max volume and stuff it's just going to be down until your
body clears it until you're until you heal yeah which is nuts well this thing is poop
and I hate it, and I hope no one else ever gets it ever again, all right?
Yeah, I mean, I was, like you said, I was on my ass for two solid days,
and then it started going away.
And just from feeling better, you probably thought you felt better than you really did
because you just were like, well, I don't feel like yesterday.
I feel like a million bucks, but you still were, you know.
Yesterday was like that.
I got up and I was like, man, I feel pretty good this morning.
I'm going to walk the dog.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do that.
And then by about noon, I'm like, I'm going to lay down.
I'm going to take a nap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you tell me you watch some, um, some, some,
some Hallmark channel with
him because
unfortunately
unfortunately yes
oh come on they're great
oh they're not great
like I don't want to watch them
in the middle of July
they're not great though
they're great
here's what they are Dan
they're porn without the naked people
that's all it is like
it's bad acting
it's bad
everything it's just bad
I like me you got
Dan I like how your defense of it is
you don't want to watch them in July
like in other words like
you have to watch
them. You just don't want to watch them then?
Yeah. Yeah. Just July.
So you don't want to watch them in July because like the overwhelming complete, you know, most
movies have like, you know, if you're a movie scholar person, it's like, oh, here's the
introduction. And then we're crescendoing and we're going to crash on a big conflict and
then we'll, we'll seal it. No, a Hallmark movie is just a constant rise.
Like there's almost, like the biggest conflict is, oh, I'm in love with Scott, but Scott's
moving to the West Coast before Christmas. Yeah. No, he's not.
he's going to fall in love with you and then that's going to be ever happily ever after that's the
the cool thing about those those hallmark movies is you can actually get the same experience by watching
just one storyline from an episode of the love boat it's like oh uh we're competing uh writers from
newspapers and we hate each other because we always have two different sides of the same story and
oh my god we're on the same cruise and oh i hate this they put us on the same table at dinner oh no
we fell in love you know what you're not right
Wrong. The only thing missing is Christmas stuff in it. That's it.
Right, exactly. You throw us some Christmas music in, and it's like one, it's one love boat segment, basically.
I'm telling Kim this after the show today. She's going to be mad.
And they have the same, so they have usually like the same five dudes or same five women, but then they've been using like, so I said Bruce Campbell is going to be on one like next week.
And you usually have like, yes. Oh my gosh.
And it looks great. I mean, again, temper this. When I say it looks great. It looks great for a hallmark movie.
Because it's exactly what you want to be
But they have all these
It's like people just want to be in them
Because Brandon Ralph was in like two of them
They were like connected
They were like two years apart
And they're in the same universe
I saw Katie Sackoff the other day
I'm picturing Bruce Campbell one
I found this weird book about love
In my house and it's got like a human face on
It feels like it's made from human skin
Oh man
Now you're talking about it will it help me
Finally reconnect with the bubble gum salesman
that I ditched back in
Schenectady, New York, back in 1994.
Oh, man, I haven't been to this
small town in a long time.
Sure is a lot of blood and stuff here,
but boy, that girl at a candy store,
I've fallen for it.
I don't want to go home now.
I'd hug you, but one of my hands is a chainsaw.
I mean, look, you're describing
exactly something much, but...
Oh, yeah, right?
Do you think he'll be out, if he's not out
like chainsawing a log or something?
Oh, he's a lumberjack, actually.
Is he really?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's like a lumberjack,
And there's like a legend in this town of, you know, Jack who brings, the guy who brings presents to kids is actually this lumberjack.
And it's him, you know, and then the girl doing the story on it is his long-lost daughter.
They give you all this in like a two-minute trailer.
Okay.
So people should watch all the Hallmark movies and really support Hallmark and get them some money because in a perfect world, I'm imagining that Hallmark gets the money to hire folks like Sam Ramey.
and David Fincher, and, like, have some directors, you know,
a Quentin Tarantino directed Hallmark Christmas movie.
I would, if that is, if that is an end game for this, I'm in.
That's how I'll support this.
Yeah, Quentin Tarantino directs barefoot in the snow.
Why coming this Saturday?
Oh, my gosh.
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
Barefoot in the snow.
One fun in Christmas.
Coming soon.
She works in a small town shoe store.
He walked in one day and couldn't believe the feet on display.
He has ginormous feet
She
Show us your feet
And they'll all die in a horrible shootout
Anyway, that's amazing
I'll watch for that
How about I also watch for some cool board games
To play during these holidays
We've got, you know, people who aren't sick
We're all getting together for Thanksgiving
Dan, do you got any recommendations for these people?
So I got some board game recommendations
I wanted to give you a video game recommendation
Real quick because it's pretty new to Steam
And we always talk about these kind of
Roguelight
Ones that we love
This one just came out
It's called One More Gate, a Wakefu legend.
So the art is amazing, and it's another one of these card things,
like a slight aspire type thing with a little bit less of the artifacts.
But I don't know the anime or whatever's behind it,
but the art is great, and I know it's based on some sort of IP.
Can you do the name one more time?
What was it?
It's called One More Gate, a Wake Fu Legend.
So I guess Wake Fu must be what it's based on.
It's called Wake Fu Legend.
Oh, there it is.
W-A-K-F-U.
legend okay oh i always thought that was i'm thinking a wifu which is a whole different thing okay i'm
seeing this on steam but it's also it's what the digital version of a board game is what you're
saying no no no it's like those other ones those other road lights that uh gotcha like uh right slate
spire or a rogue book and things like that yes okay all right uh it's a lot of fun it's a little
it's kind of reminds me of the obelisk one where it's a little grindy where you got to like just
fail a few times so you can get some resources to pump up your cards right and that's a lot
kind of the whole gist of it.
But it's a lot of fun.
And the art is amazing because it's a different art style than like what we normally see.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's cool.
I'm looking at it now.
I don't know the anime or whatever this is based on, but I like the look at this a lot.
The style is really cool, yeah.
Yeah.
I like the battle of the combat animation is really nice.
This looks pretty good.
I'll play this.
Yeah, and I don't think it's all that expensive.
I mean, I think it's early access too, but it's, but it's solid.
It's a fun game to play.
Yeah, it's 18 bucks currently.
which is not bad
and yeah
I'm wishless in this right now
I think I'm gonna probably pick this up
I mean you know the the winter sales coming
you know what in a month or so
so it will probably be able to discount it then
if you want to wait until after that
sure yeah good point
I've been playing non-stop a game called
Soulstone Survivors
and it's almost all I could play
to all I was sick because anything too brainy
was not working for me
so I had to play a lot of dumb stuff
and that game
people are familiar with vampire
survivors. It's that, but in 3D with, like, way more depth. It is one of the most
addicting damn, like, I don't know, it's like it's a little, it's like a little dopamine
pump in my head. Just constantly going, hey, you like that? How about bigger numbers here?
Pump, pump, pump. Hey, how about this? You want some of this cool stuff? That one's gold. That
one says legendary. Pump, pump, pump, pump. It's like that. Oh, that's great. Yeah, it's really
good. Anyway, all right, well, that's a good one. I'm going to give you three recommendations for
games. The last one is the
recommendation that I'm going to want, I'm going to kind of give
a little synopsis up, but I'm going to cover it
more in depth than a later
date for us. But these are all great
Scott games and great Brian games.
This first one is perfect
for a stocking stuffer. This is called
Holly Jolly. It's
made by 25th century games. It's only about
10 bucks. It's a cool little card
drafting game, and
you can learn this game in literally like two minutes.
You're basically, it's all about getting ornaments
or presents from the Christmas tree.
little card game. It kind of has this really cool little drafting mechanism where
depending on either tinsel or the lights that you put onto the tree, depending on what number
that is, then you can draft either ornaments or presents from the tree. And it's kind of a set
collection game. So easy. That's great. I love this robot. A donkey horse looking cover. I'd
love that stuff. That era of toys. Some of my favorite looking art. I love that.
And the artist is Robin Banks. It's a fantastic game by it's funny.
It's a great name, by the way, Robin Banks.
What a great name.
His name is Robin Banks.
It didn't even hit me until you just said it.
Yes, I know.
That's great.
I mean, his parents are probably having a laugh, right?
That's what happened there.
Yeah, probably.
There's no way they didn't know this when they named him Robin at the Banks house.
Robin Banks.
Anyway, sorry, Dan.
Actually, I don't know if it's he or she, because Robin is one of those names.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
And it's, again, from Ben Pinchback and Matt Riddell, those actually, it just so happened to be the guys that I spent the weekend with, with Motor City Game Works.
Those are the two of the designers.
And they've done a lot of things like Fleet and plenty of other great games that I've kind of mentioned a bunch of in the past.
Anyway, that's Holly Jolly.
Get it for your stocking great games.
Probably only like 10, 15 bucks that you can find it.
The next one is, this is another great one called Marvel Remix.
Okay.
Now, this is based off of a game called Fantasy Realms.
This is, Scott, you love this one too, because all you're going to do, you get seven cards in your hand.
You have a deck in front of you that's a villain deck, a hero deck, and then there's just cards that'll be discarded.
Each card will tell you how it scores at the end of the game, and all you're trying to do is try to get, you're trying to score the card.
You're trying to score all the cards in your hand, trying to get the best score.
So you may be, you may kind of pick a card from the hero deck that will go a little bit better with Captain America, and then you're going to discard, like,
Baron Mordo, things like that.
So you're going to discard things in the deck.
And somebody else, you know, Brian may be going for a villain deck,
and he's got things that are going to score there.
So he may either picked up that card or maybe nothing in front of him is kind of useful yet,
or he'll kind of draw from one of the things.
Will you keep playing with kind of drawing and discarding until there's, I think,
10 or 12 cards in middle.
I think it's player-dependent cards in the middle in the discard pile.
Then you just add it all up.
Now, some of these cards can be, some of these cards can be a little bit tough to figure out,
but the original game, Fantasy Realms,
they have like an app in like a website
that all you do is plug your cards into the app
and it tells you what your score is.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's amazing.
I think Marvel Remix,
it's made by WizKids,
so there may be an app out yet.
I'm not sure if it is,
or maybe somebody might have kind of put something online.
That helps the scoring a little bit.
But the game itself, it's only, again,
less than 20 bucks is just a little card game.
Perfect stocky stopper or Christmas gift.
It's amazing.
That's really cool.
Getting this, I'm buying this today.
This looks great.
Yeah.
I think I might also, Scott.
It seems like something Brian Ibitt might buy.
Seems like if you think you might be?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't want to be crazy or anything, but it seems like something you'd love.
In the final one, I'll just, again, I'm going to mention,
I don't want to get into too much of this because I really want to cover this on a later one
because of just how good I think this is going to,
this is going to be on a lot of kind of best of list next year because it's just starting
to arrive and it should be at a lot of FLGS either.
It's supposed to be out now, but you may start seeing it pop up in December.
This is called Verdant, V-E-R-D-A-N-T.
I think it's a word having to do with, like, planting or grasses and stuff of that.
This is kind of made by the same company that made Cascadia.
And if you remember Cascadia, it's all the bees' knees where everybody, it's a great kind of introductory game, but it's great.
All you basically do is you're just kind of drafting two things and putting them into your little tableau.
Same thing with Verdant.
It's all about you making plants, you're putting plants and kind of like rooms together.
There are some rooms that'll, I don't want to get into it.
Anyway, because I'll get into this another time, but just get it because it's going to be, it's even easier to learn than what Cascadia was.
Because I really want to get into this another time because I really think just talking about this for a few minutes would be great because I think you guys would absolutely love this.
But if you're out there and you love things like Cascadia or kind of intro games, just get it.
Do you like that bird, the bird one Brian loved?
What was that called?
Oh, wingspan.
Wingspan.
A little bit like that.
I think, trying to remember if wingspan, and it's online too, you can actually get that on Steam.
there's two or three expansions there's a new expansion
can't remember if it was only kick started
or if it's actually out now
because there's like an Asia one, an Oceanic
and there's a bunch of different expansions that are out
and it's also on board game arena
if you want to play it online. Brian, if you think
you're good at that game, go play it on like BGA
where there's people from around the world and you'll
just get destroyed. It's amazing how these people
are. I can't beat anybody
on that site. I only
couldn't even buy or beat the
AI like a third of the time
so I definitely don't
think I'm good at it.
So Wingspan is one of these games where I talk about, like, the destination is better.
I mean, I'm sorry, the journey is better than the destination.
Because the game itself is just so much fun.
Then you get done and you're like, wait, I lost by 40?
I just had, I did everything I wanted to.
And I had so much fun.
So it's interesting how that kind of goes with some games.
All right.
Well, Verdant's our third pick.
Before that, was it, the Marvel shit?
Marvel Spike.
Marvel Remix.
Marvel Remix.
Marvel Remix.
And if it's based off a game called Fantasy Realms.
And I think there's another one that's out that's Star Wars missions or something like that,
that is basically the same game because people just keep copying kind of the main.
It might be WizKids do as the Star Trek license.
But I'm not sure if that one's as good as remix or fantasy realms.
But if that's your thing, just look into that one as well, because that might be decent.
It bugs me that when I was making Rock Runners, I was so overly careful not to take anybody's names,
not to take anybody's game types to, like, avoid all that stuff like crazy.
But since then, all I've noticed is everybody's, everyone iterates on everybody all the time.
Yeah, everybody changes something a little bit.
The only thing, now Scott, this will be right up your alley.
The only thing you cannot do is take people's art.
Right.
It's the only thing you can't do.
You can do pretty much anything else.
It's like video games.
You've got a slay the spire and then you got a rocket, or sorry, the train one.
Monster Train.
Oh, yep, and Monster Train.
And those two games, obviously, they have some differences.
but it's at the core it's like no we're playing off the same stuff same with this soul
survivor thing i'm playing i mean or sorry soulstone survivors it's taken that vampire survivors
game type and said let's take it in this direction so i guess i always knew that this was the way
you did it but i was so nervous about that i was so scared that i was going to like walk out of
somebody's ideas and all you really have to do is like in the back of the rulebook be like oh
special thanks to uh you know uh rock runners for kind of these the uh what you say
like the spiritual successor
or giving me the
not influenced my design
quite a big thing.
Yeah, that happens in Steam descriptions.
Like what you're going to do is about that.
Steam descriptions will say things like
this game
set in the planet of blah blah blah,
inspired heavily by so-and-so game.
They'll do that a lot.
Yeah, right.
And that's it.
All right.
You know, you really can't copyright.
You can copyright, art, and that's it.
Deep impacts.
Inspired heavily by Armageddon.
Yep.
That's right.
There it is.
All right.
Well, excellent stuff, as always, Dan.
I love hanging out with you.
I'm glad we got a chance to do it this week.
Yeah, well, happy holidays, boys.
Yeah, you got any big plans for Thanksgiving?
You're going to do anything cool or, you know, fried chicken?
No, well, no, we're going to go up to Greensboro to visit some family,
and then I actually have to work on Friday a little bit.
It's one of those things where nobody's sending in prior authorizations on a Friday.
Like, no doctors are working on Friday, so it'll be a nice easy, easy weekend for me,
and I don't have to work this weekend.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Yeah, you can play a pill soccer where you set up a little fake net.
a paper on one side of the table
and just flick a little pill across the
yeah just with pills
the big old horse pill your grandma
has to take one of those things
you could kill you can put an eye out with that
thing yeah you get careful
Dan it's always good talking to you a geek jock blog
everywhere else you go yes sir what else you use
no geek jock Dan now oh Dan I keep forgetting
Dan and the geek all stars
and we're recording tonight
we may have a special guest of his
schedule permits
I'm gonna I'm gonna
I'm going to apologize to you right now live on the air, Dan.
There's a conflict tonight, and I'm sorry.
No, it's fine.
I knew that's why I kind of made sure I had three guests, and I had a,
we're going to do a show about the great game of Snap.
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of that.
There was a show about that.
We're going to have, well, Brian, we'll have you on in the future, though.
Please do.
I will, you know, it's like the second one this week that I've had to do that with is, like,
reschedule because of something else.
It's like, oh, my God.
I'm so sorry.
Busy boys.
McGee, you know.
Yeah, I guess so.
So next time you have it, I will 100% be there.
Absolutely.
So your penance is you have to put up with me, message you on Discord every now and I'm saying,
hey, how do I make this deck work?
Oh, I will happily do that for you.
And I will, you know, there's going to be times when I'm doing the Marvel Snapstream
like I've been doing with Red Fraggle where if she can't make it, you're going to be my first,
like, hey, you want to come on and be guest star?
so the color commentary i'm all about color commentary yep snapped where it's at baby happy thanksgiving
hopefully you know if you've got time for me next month i know december's nuts but uh maybe we'll
talk to you before christmas and maybe we can get it to verdant a little more at that time oh we'll
find you a hole don't you worry and we'll stick you straight in that hole it's happening it's happening
see you boys see you dan well there he goes off to be the dan we love and know uh and we are almost
done i'm going to read some texts though and emails cool all right just
to catch us up a little bit. Uh, let us start with this, with these texts here. Hold on a second
here. Here we go. Here's one from, uh, Logan, aka Dreadnecks. We know Dreadnecks. We do.
Pretty common face around these parts. He says, Scott and Ryan, this one's sticking for some
reason. I don't know why. Um, I think you figured out why that Overwatch player kept calling your
co-host Ryan. Um, and this is, I guess I told the story while you were gone, but you heard it,
I think, right? Yeah, no, I think I was here for you here. I don't know.
I think so. Yeah, I can't remember. It could have been while I had the flu.
It could have been while I was in Orange County.
The last two weeks are seriously. It's just a blurry mess.
Anyway, I have recently been busy and fallen behind on podcast.
So to set you up at 1.5x speed, when listening at that speed, I was unable to consistently hear the B in Ryan's name.
My thought is that this guy has been listening to you at double speed. Love the show, though, Logan.
So that's an interesting point.
It is. I know I almost wish we would have had the.
time to like play one of the shows at 2x speed just to hear here confirmation of that right like
because the way that works is it trims out the space when you listen to a podcast at x speed it keeps
the voice it doesn't like chipmunk the voices it just takes out as much space as it can and
jams things together and then it even takes out the beginnings and ends of words if you
you know if you uh need it to go that far it depends a little bit on the
players. Some players are better than others, but my experience has been, yeah, sometimes it will
cut off. Not cut off. It's hard to explain. It's not kind of late. It's not the normal cutoff.
It's a different kind of cutoff. But since everything's getting compressed and tiny and you're
keeping the pitch the same, honestly, I still don't know how people do it. It would drive me crazy.
It drives me crazy. And listen, we have music in our show. You can't be listening at one and a half speed
because it's, uh, or at 150% speed. Huh? I see what you did there. Good call back. Yeah. Uh, because, uh, you
Yeah, you're going to, it's really going to F with how the music sounds.
So come on, be careful.
Yeah, be careful.
Careful with this.
Don't you, don't overabuse your, your 1x, 2x speed power.
No, that's all we're asking.
If you can do that, then what else is there?
All right, check this out.
I got this, I get this email or another text here from, who's this from?
This is from Josh P. in Martha's Vineyard, which is a place I only hear about on TV in movies.
Never been there.
Right.
You ever go?
Desired.
Never been to Martha's Vineyard.
We're taking the, we're going up to Martha's Vineyard, Jerry.
Yeah, I see it on a sign. I guess it's true. I see it on Seinfeld all the time.
It says, greetings. We've got another Josh texting here into TMS.
We hear from a lot of Joshes, I guess.
We do. Have you or Brian listened to any of the Marvel Wastlanders audio drama podcasts?
TLDR, the villains kill all of the heroes post-apocalyptic setting 30 years later?
I believe this is the original old man Logan setting.
I think so, yes.
Incorrect, which I have read.
anyway, 10 to 12 episodes per season, 28-ish minute episodes with the style of Wolverine
The Long Night.
I'm sure the major spoilers fellas have, but I wanted to recommend it during all of this
Marvel Snap hype.
They have old, let's see, old man, Star Lord, Black Widow, Wolverine, Dr. Doom, and Hawkeye,
give it a shot, give it a shot, love the show, Josh.
So I have these downloaded and have for months, and I haven't listened to them yet.
Oh, really?
I have never listened to a single Marvel, you know, audio drama podcast, and I guess I need to.
So maybe this would be the one I do.
Heard really good things about them.
And I downloaded them in the wake of me finally reading Old Man Logan and loving it.
I absolutely loved it.
And Old Man Hawkeye or Old Man Star Lord?
Is it one of the two?
Yeah, Old Man Star Lord too, yeah.
Yeah, I think Geyser Hawkeye was in it in the comic as well.
And I remember thinking, this isn't a radio?
Ooh, dude, no way.
I'll totally listen this.
I went, found it, I downloaded it, and then it's just sitting in there.
So I'll get around to it, Josh, and I'll bet Brian does too.
It sounds good.
Email, this is for the morning stream in gmail.com.
It's for somebody named Young, Y-U-N-G.
It'd be a great rap name, just straight young, you know?
Young.
No young MC, no young little bow-wow, no young whatever's.
No, just young.
And it's just your name.
I like that.
Anyway, let's know how your rap career goes.
He writes in and says,
Good morning, Scott and Brian.
I've been a long-time listener and appreciator of frog pants,
vast array of other shows.
TMS in particular has become a stalwart,
regular podcast of choice over the past decade from its inception.
Naturally, there have been instances of repetition over the years
in terms of show content, games played, discussion,
show titles, etc.
I'm sure somebody has already brought this to your attention by now.
No, they have not.
So, young, you're the first one.
But I was listening to the recent episode, TMS 23,
367, maize, maize, which is like corn, maize, maize, maize, yeah, M-A-I-Z-E.
There you go.
Sorry, and as I also listen to the archive T-M-S shows regularly because who is a glutton
for punishment, the episode TMS-1991 was called Maze of Maze.
Wow.
And came up in my listening list.
While not a complete duplication of a show title, it still tickled me enough to bring this
useless fact to your attention.
Love the show, though.
hope that you and Brian continue as long as you give both of uh as long as you both sorry you both as
much enjoyment as you provide to everyone meaning get that enjoyment as he left out the word get
anyway young thank you uh kind regards he says well kind regards right back to you it's very nice
of you to say and yes this will happen uh happened with the instance more often than it does here
because on the instance we would pick i would pick titles on my own and so if i did one that was the
same as three years ago because of some reference to the lich king or something
that was just me not remember that did it come up yeah exactly but in brian and i's case we at least
have this double layer chance of catching each other of wait haven't we done that before sort of thing
this one clearly got through i will never ever remember a show title you could you could we could put
the same show title week after week and i'd be like oh that's a really good show title and i never
you know probably would never catch it's a good point i don't think i would i don't have to do album art
for it so that's that's one layer that keeps me away from no one yeah but anyway i and also i think in
In 1991, we may have not been doing chat room suggestion yet.
It might not have been, yeah.
So.
I mean, that was in the first 2,000 episodes.
Holy crap.
That's the other thing.
You're lucky this doesn't happen every other day with how many shows we do that.
I think it's probably the two times I've been in a corn maze since we've done, started
doing TMS, probably these two times, basically.
I think they are the two times you went to that cool corn maze.
Exactly.
And talked about it on the show.
Anyway, if you want to be like young, the rapper extraordinaire, send your emails to the morning stream at gmail.com, or you can text us 801-471-0462.
Quick note to our pal KT data slash Kevin in the chat.
He also had COVID the exact same time as us.
Oh, no.
So I don't know what's going on here in Utah, but all the Utahans with their freaking final.
And these are all people who haven't had COVID the entire three years.
suddenly we all have it.
So, you know, can't explain that.
Yeah, he's got one of these making its way to him right now,
one of these 3D printed, articulated yetis that I've been selling on the Etsy store.
I saw Nicole got one of those, I think.
Oh, really?
Was it Nicole?
She probably printed one because she's all about doing the articulated stuff.
That's pretty great.
I'm sure she printed her own, but yeah, no, this guy's great.
It looks like a Richard Scarry or a.
Maurice Sendak or
you know
or Ludo
from Labyrinth kind of
Oh yeah
I always forget about Ludo
Friends
Friends
Well there you have it
That's it for the show
I'd like to thank our patrons
For supporting it
And if and without you
I don't know where if came from
There's no
There's literally no show
Like straight up there's no show
Imagine last week but writ large
Oh man
That's hard to think of
So if you don't want that in your life
keep contributing, we need it. Patreon.com slash TMS, especially this time of year.
You'll never get a commercial or an ad of any kind.
You'll get pre-show content every week, art in the mail, couch parties on the weekend, as well as game nights or game play dates, is what I'm trying to say.
That's right.
Which is happening this Friday, and we're going to do it in the morning.
The normal TMS time is Friday, which is a benefit for a whole ton of reasons, one of which is Brian's got a thing later, so that'll help.
I've got to go deep fry, whatever.
Yeah, if you have ideas for something I should, uh,
take to deep fry. I'm thinking about
making
little like basically taking
pumpkin pies but making
miniature ones with like a cookie cutter
for the crust and then the filling
putting them in like a
one of those
mini cupcake trays
freezing them
batter dipping them
and then refreezing them
and taking those to deep fry in the
deep fryer so like little deep fried
mini pumpkin pies. That actually
Sounds really good.
Doesn't it sound good?
Maybe I don't do the crust, because I guess you don't need the crust if you've got the battered dip.
So maybe just like a layer of whipped cream, frozen whipped cream, and then batter dip that and deep fried.
Even if you get a little hint of chicken, nut chicken, turkey on there.
Right, yeah.
Then you've got, that's okay.
Absolutely.
It's Thanksgiving and one bite is what it is.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
You've got a nice combo of flavors there.
I think this sounds good.
Yeah, I don't think you're going to get the hint of turkey in any of the things that they're, I mean, it's all, it's the only thing.
that they deep fried in that fat
before we get to it
and it'll be like
pulled out with a strainer
so I don't think there's gonna be
little turkey bits left in there or anything
oh yeah you won't get anything like
turkey food in your thing I'm just gonna be
I'll be curious if anything just
has the hint of that
kind of poultry's taste
you know what I mean like this Mexican
place up the street that used to be
old school 70s
international house of pancakes
I've talked about this place before
It's called La Marelias now.
But, and the food's great.
Great Mexican food.
But as soon as you walk in there, you smell syrup.
Okay.
Just never, never freaking goes away.
And I always think of that with all kinds of, like, if you make one kind of food for long enough,
like there's an H&R block over here that used to be a taco stand.
Yeah.
That H&R block smells like tacos.
And it's been like three, four years, still smells like tacos in there.
Weird.
Okay, well, maybe there's something to that.
Maybe they will, uh, yeah.
I'd just be curious.
You're going to have to report back on this now.
Totally, yeah.
That'll do it for today's show.
Thanks, everybody from being here.
Oh, and we're going to play Drawful and Among Us on Friday.
Yeah.
And you're all invited.
This isn't patrons only.
This is everybody.
So.
This is everybody.
Yep.
Get in there.
Patreon.com slash TMS.
It's a Black Friday miracle is what it is.
That's right.
Get your miracle on right here at TMS.
For everything else is frogpast.
Yeah.
Everything else is at frogpance.com slash TMS.
And we'd recommend you go there.
But before we get out of here, let's see, if I missed
anything? I don't think so.
Yeah, we just got, we gotta play a song. That's it. That's all
we got. We do. Yeah, it's all that's left on the
to-do list and I'll check that box
right now. Jen wrote in,
she is J-K-L-M-A-A-A-S
in chat, J-KL-Maz, or
Jackal-Maz or something like that. Anyway,
Jen said, hello, squash and
butternut. One of my favorite things this time of year.
I'm responding to your call-out
for a request. Boy, a lot of you did, by the way.
Thank you for all of these requests in November
that we'll never be able to get to.
Maybe I'll fit of it in December.
My family is headed to Portugal for Thanksgiving as my stepson is stationed in Italy.
We decided to meet him in Europe for a holiday gathering.
I'll also be visiting Spain on this trip.
My mom was a fan of Three Dog Night while I was growing up, so never been to Spain was frequently played.
I've enjoyed the cover by Susie Vinick, but if you're kind enough or be kind enough to play any cover of it for our travels, we'd appreciate it.
Love the show, though.
Jim.
That's awesome.
What a cool trip.
God, no kidding. Portugal, Spain. I'd love to go. Both of those places are on my list of places I want to go.
Yeah. That's awesome.
Yeah, so her request, a cover of Never Been to Spain. Now, Three Dog Night did have the popular cover of that song.
However, this is not originally a Three Dog Night song. They did a lot of covers. A lot of their big hits are songs that they covered by other people.
This one included. Originally, it was performed by Hoyt Axton, who,
in addition to being a country star,
also
Zach Gallaghan's dad
in the original
Gremlin's movie, the inventor.
Oh my gosh, I love that guy. He's great.
He is great. So that's
Hoyt Axton. He did the original version of Never Been to Spain.
Cover I'm playing is exactly the one that Jen mentioned.
It is Susie Vinick from her 2011 album,
Me and Mabel. Here's her cover
of Never Been to Spain.
All right. That'll do it for today. Just a reminder
about programming. We'll be here tomorrow.
also Wednesday, Thursday off for Thanksgiving, and then Friday with our play date.
All right, so that's the plan.
Nothing should change or alter from that.
All of those shows currently scheduled as constituted, that'll do it.
We'll see you then.
Well, I guess we'll see you tomorrow.
Bye now.
Well, I never been to Spain, but I kind of like the music.
They say the ladies are insane.
and they sure know how to use it
but they don't use it
never going to lose it
they'll refuse it
well I've never been
the England
but I kind of like beetles
Almost had it for our lives fast
And I made it out to Natives
Can't you feel it?
It must feel really
Feels so good
Well, I've never been to heaven
But I've been to Oklahoma
Oh, they tell me I was born there,
but I really don't remember.
In Oklahoma, not in Arizona,
doesn't matter, doesn't matter, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I've never been to space
But I kind of like the music
They say the ladies out and say men
And they should know how to use it
They don't use it
They're never going to lose it
I can't refuse it
Oh
Well, they'd never been to heaven
But I'd be to Oklahoma
Yeah
Oh, they tell me I was born there
But I really don't
I really don't
Lauren to remember in Oklahoma, not Arizona.
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Oh, oh.
In Oklahoma, not Arizona, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
In Oklahoma, no, Arizona, doesn't matter.
This doesn't matter, but I kind of like to go out of the frog of the Frog Pants Network.
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