The Morning Stream - TMS 2380: Sopranosaurus

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

WaKaren Forever. Fantastic Sleeps and Where to Find Them. Like a Hostess pie, but good. I Have A Way With Peepoo. He fancies himself a banksy. It's a Great Time to Survive. Big Plump Franks. Flappy-Wing Ankle-Wings. Talking Includes Whispering. The standard chocolate cake radio station. Paying for heat in my bum. Thinking Outside The Bin. 80% Less Naked Than Flea. Throw me the crystals, I'll throw you the pies. Hey, I'm Walking Here! To Buffalo Wild Wings! Paint me like one of your AI girls with Bill. Meaty Meatier Impacts with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, Wakanaren forever. Fantastic sleeps and where to find them. Like a hostess pie. But good. I have a way with Pee-Poo. He fancies himself a bansy. It's a great time to survive.

Big plump Franks. Flappy wing, ankle wings. Talking includes whispering. The standard chocolate cake radio station. Paying for heat in my bum. Thinking outside the bin. 80% less naked than flee. Throw me the crystals.

I'll throw you the pies. Hey, I'm walking here to Buffalo Wild Wings. Paint me like well. one of your AI girls with Bill. Meaty, meatier impacts with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Stem cells? Aren't those controversial? In your time, yes.

But nowadays, shut up. All right. Something weird just happened. That's weird. The morning stream. Did you say dick cream? Because I sure didn't just now. Ha-ha.

Good morning and welcome to TMS. It is Tuesday, November 22nd, 2022. Oh, it's a 22-22 again. Oh, look at that. 22-22. Excellent. And if you take 11 and you times it by 2, you get 22. That's right.

But why would you do that? You wouldn't. You wouldn't. I mean, couldn't you multiply any number by, any number, any day, and make them all the same. That's true. Revelling the fact that we've got a 2222. Yeah, enjoy your 22, 22, 22, everybody, because it's about to be a 23.

That's just how that'll work tomorrow. So, anyway, welcome to the show. It's nice to have you all here. Thanksgiving prep happening. Everybody getting excited for all the relatives you can't stand, that sort of stuff. Although it sounds like you've got a pretty easy deal. Easy for us, right? We're not hosting.

We're going to two different Thanksgiving's on Thursday and Friday, we just have to take stuff. And thanks to the wild animals that grocery shop where we shop, the only size of carrots that Tina's able to find was a ginormous bag. So I think we're going to have to also get some rabbits. I think that's the way it goes. We ventured out to get a couple of things yesterday at the grocery store. And they had surprisingly not as much stuff as I thought.

thought they would have left this early in the week. Like, I know people went to the last minute to do all their prep and everything, but a lot of, like, very key, um, thanksgiving items were, uh, they were depleted. Okay. And that was a little bit of a bummer. Yeah. Usually you see that later in the week you saw it earlier than you expected. Then I expected, yeah.

We also went to Costco and I got a, uh, I almost got a big hot dog, Brian. I almost did. I almost did it. Do they, I mean, technically it's Costco. Do they have big hot dogs? they don't have your like big plump franks they just have a uh you know they have their buck 51 and then they have what a foot long or something i think the buck 51 is as big as it gets and i think it's okay they have both the pork one and they got a beef one that's true yeah and i think they're

pretty i mean they're okay big but we decided to get pizza after anyway so i was like i'm not gonna eat that i'll i'll save my appetite for later no i i do need to go i decided because i was talking about uh this thing i'm going to with the um the the first fryer that people, you know, they fry their turkey, and then on Friday, they have what's called Friday, where everybody comes over and they bring things to throw into the friar. I've decided I'm going to make little pumpkin hand pies and maybe cherry as well for the people who don't like pumpkin. So it's basically going to be, you know, the rollout pre-made Pillsbury pie crust.

Right. Cut smaller circles of those. Fill them with the fillings, either cherry or the pumpkin stuff. fold them over, crimp them with a cute little fork crimping action and then toss those in the friar and then you've got like a little hostess pumpkin pie

or a hostess cherry pie kind of thing. Except good. Except good, exactly. Except not garbage. So that's good. Yes. The question is when I go there after TMS today because that's probably one I'll go there

if Tina lets me borrow the car I'm hoping that those rollout don't actually have some of those rollout pie crust because it feels like that is a you know if you're if you're making a pumpkin pie and you're lazy that is your jam is go there getting the pumpkin or the the the pie crust rollout things so we'll see if if there's any at the store when I get there if not then I'm making my own yeah why not make your own dough that's what I always say I'll use the pasta roller and I'll you know roll out the pasta to or roll out the dough to an even thickness

the circles, boom, boom, boom. Nice. We saw a guy there that had three LG, gigantic 4K TVs that he bought. At the grocery store? Yeah. No, at the Costco. And why would you buy that? Unless you got like a business and you got a building and you got like, you got

multiple TVs. Hey, we're opening a new bar and grill. We got to have a bunch of TVs in the bar. I could see that. But this just looked like some nice couple. I had a couple of kids with them. And they had three of these huge TVs stacked onto their thing. So maybe he's.

He's reselling him, possibly, like wait until after. But why would you do it this week, like today or yesterday, and not wait till Black Friday when you can probably get one at Best Buy for 18 cents? Yeah, plus there's a good chance the ones he's stack in there are going to be cheaper on Best Buy Friday, or on, sorry, on Costco's Black Friday. Because Costco does it. They do a Black Friday. They only do like a Doorbusters come in and...

I don't think so, but they have sales. They have sales and coupons and all that crap, but I don't think they do. I don't think they go for the full. you know trample everybody and kill each other thing but it but I don't know it just seemed odd to me and they weren't like horribly cheap they were $2,500 TVs oh wow okay and he just had three of them and I didn't say anything because you know what am I going to do I'm all masked up and weird looking as it is yeah I figure uh that 2,500 bucks easily he could get one for the 10th of the 10th of that price at Best Buy on Friday I feel like 250 bucks is a typical

giant screen TV price at I don't know if they're going to get a 4K UHD thing though well okay not for 250 but under thousand for sure yeah yeah I think you could do that it was a little frustrating though because I saw a TV there that was this year's version of what I bought two

three years ago whatever it's been yeah it's like half the price now of course of course it is I hate that yeah you can't look at stuff like that or you can look in and say well have I gotten that much enjoyment out of it not going to movie theaters.

Right. Avoiding that crap. I think I have. I think I've gotten my worth out of it for sure. So I'm not complaining. I just looked at it and just went, oh, that's a lower price. You know, I didn't talk about it because obviously it took place before, right after the Anaheim trip, but before COVID week.

But we did go see Wakanda forever and enjoyed it tremendously. Great send-off, great tribute to Chadwick Bowes. but also a very well-done introduction to a character that they had to change quite a bit for the MCU, which is No More. Ah, Mr. Flappy Wing, ankle wings. Flappy ankle wings. You know what? Didn't bother me at all in the movie like it kind of did the first time I saw that trailer.

Like a... Like little snitches from Harry Potter on his legs. A little bit, yeah, just a little bit. It's good, though, right? Good quality stage. What are we? Four MCUs? Still, whatever we are.

Phase four, yep, just getting close to the end of phase four, I think. I can't. I can't keep track because they're not doing the big and Avengers movie to wrap every phase up like they were before. It's hard to, you know, when you don't have that milestone, it's hard to figure out what freaking phase we're in. But we get a couple next to Tina. Uh-oh. The, uh, maybe one of the worst people we've sat next to. And we've sat, we've been seated next to some horrible, horrible people.

Yeah, this is a new territory for you guys. You always end up next to some chuckleheads. We always end up next to some, some butthole. But this woman, so talking during the previews, having her phone out doing the previews, I don't care. You know, that's fine. That's what the previews are for. It gets settled yet, you know. But it also always makes me think like, oh, they're the type that's probably just going to keep their phone going or going to keep talking.

and there's a if I remember correctly there's like a little opening segment to the film and then you get the Marvel like they've been doing like the cold open and then you get the the do to do do do do do do and it shows the Marvel logo all in purple and a woman sitting next to Tina has her phone out takes a picture of the purple Marvel logo with her phone with the the freaking flash on. Why? Why does she want a picture of the logo? That's a thing you can get anywhere. I'm sure it was for the likes. I guarantee,

because she immediately started doing stuff on her phone, and I'm sure it was that she was posting, I'm at the Black Panther Wakanda forever. See an opening night. Woo. Ew. I don't like that at all. That annoys me.

Did you want to say something? Were you tempted to just like laying in a, Wanda forever over there. Tina, more tempted, actually said, hey, could you turn your phone off, please? The light is really, really distracting. And so she turns it off. But then she starts whispering to the person next to her

at about this volume. Great, great. And so after like a couple of, Tina's like, all right, let's give it a minute, maybe it'll stop. Nope, then she starts talking again or like whispering. And Tina goes, excuse me, could you please stop talking? I'm not talking Oh my gosh

I hate everything about this This is like Hey Scott do you need some more Ammunition for why you don't go to movie theaters Can we provide some right now Yeah this is it So did she end up shutting up or what happened She did eventually after after

After the I'm not talking There was a couple little whispery bits And then she did stop talking but oh my god i you know it's if the seats were as comfortable at alamo draft house where they take zero where they you know they they they like have a zero uh chance policy if you screw up you are out it's not like out of there one more warning and you gotta leave um if the seats were as comfortable at the alamo draft house i think we would just switch our our membership over there because there's one that's kind of close by

but um what's wrong with the seats are just old style or something just not as comfortable as the yeah they're they're more upright uh the i thought their whole thing was like fancier seats or something i guess i had that wrong in my head i thought they were the ones that fancier than than old movie theater seats but amc's got these big padded recliner things that you know the right kind of movie scott and i've got a good nap going if it's got if it's got fantastic beasts in the title scott then I'm getting a good afternoon sleep. Yeah, that's what's happening at that am. That might bring me back to theaters just to know that I'll have this huge bed to myself.

That's funny that she'd say, yell, I'm not talking. You literally, when your wife says talking, she's not talking about volume. It doesn't matter anyways, you're whispering so loud. You're communicating. Talking in this case includes whispering. Yeah, you're communicating. You're talking to another human being. They understand the words you're saying.

That's talking. Right. And Tina's not about to say, could you stop whispering, please? Stop whispering loudly. Talking includes whispering. Yeah, that's lame. I would be, this whole thing's irritating me. But it's good, but the movie's good.

You walked away going, ah, satisfying. Oh, I enjoyed it a lot. Yes. I, um, uh, you know, I'm not going to give any spoilers, but I'm going to say I was surprised that there wasn't an end credits, uh, stinger. There's a mid-credit stinger. Oh, no, no end, uh, deal. No end credit.

Is that usually, that's almost always they do that. Yeah, usually they've got both, right? they've got a mid-credits thing and then an end-credits thing they have for the last few phases, last couple phases. It started out just being an end-credits thing, and then they said, we've got two things we want to reveal. How about we do it in the middle and one at the end? Sure, sure, sure.

In this case, just one in the middle. But it was still good. It was very poignant. It was very touching. And, yeah, I stand as a, as a, a fan of Wakanda forever. Oh, very nice. I was just trying to see how it, uh, see, audience scores it through the roof, uh, 84%, which is pretty good.

Um, what did the original get? Let's see, 2018, Black Panther. Probably 90 something. I think that was so. Oh, 96, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's 10, 10 points one way or the other.

It's fine. Sounds like it's probably just as good. For those of you who, who, uh, really wanted to see Black Adam in theaters, uh, last week. don't worry it's going to be on hbo max either what today or next tuesday it's like either oh it's that soon really that's soon holy shit it made good money in theaters i thought they'd leave it there longer i thought they'd do it like um uh the maverick was was in theaters way longer than i thought it would be yeah although that comes out on paramount plus so you can stream it today starting today what the heck today is digital purchase or digital rental and then it's streaming on

um HBO Max like next week or something I can't remember I just wait for that I'm not gonna pay yeah I'm definitely not gonna pay but I'll watch it

I have no problem with this quick turnaround I just I wish it was more consistent because uh maverick coming to Paramount Plus next week is great and all but it took them forever like I feel like that did yeah I mean that was a 4th of July movie wasn't it

didn't come out uh and I say forever in today's terms because when you and I were kids we had to wait like 12, it felt like 12 years to get anything. It felt like exactly, yeah, right. And it was, and it was, I mean, it wasn't quite that, but it was definitely like you would wait at least a year for VHS tapes, at least. And the VHS tape was $75 to buy if you don't want to rent it.

It would take your chances aren't getting a rental seeing if it's still there. Yeah, I mean, look, I love the 80s, but we were slow. That's the deal there. Yeah, exactly. Well, a couple things. I wanted to just bring up this whole thing with your car again real quick. Oh, thank you. Thanks. No problem.

Let's rub this in just a little bit. So it got me to thinking yesterday, and I just started digging around. I wanted to know kind of what, you know, the way that other services and products have changed over the years, a lot of them have added things like, hey, your heating system in your home. If you pay us $200 a month, we'll come out there once a quarter and make sure everything's, okay and when something does break it's all covered you know it's kind of like a weird extended insurance but you're basically paying for this service and there's lots of examples like that kind of all over the place cars less so but we have heard recently what was the eight uh the the BMW thing where they were going to let you have oh what was it um yeah it was uh i can't remember it was something that

was kind of irritating like there's something that should have been included with the car purchase and then they said we're going to let you have this for a monthly fee and and and Yeah, what was that? Do you remember what it was? I don't remember what it was. Oh, heated seats. It was heated seats. It was a monthly fee for heated seats. Yeah, and this was, and by the way, not a thing that happened in the States.

This was being tested overseas, so it wasn't even us yet. That's right. I don't think it made it here even. No, I think it was like so hated. It didn't even. Yeah, I didn't go anywhere. It was a test in Germany, I think. But anyway, I found this one.

This is recent. Mercedes is now going to offer, I'm going to sneeze. Hold on. Here's a big one. You promised you would and you did. You delivered. Man, that thing came from all the way down. Anyway, Mercedes is offering acceleration increase is what they're calling the subscription.

It's a $1,200 subscription. And you'd pay that monthly or quarterly, I guess in this case, for the $1,200. So that your engine can go faster. Basically, they'll let you overclock your engine, like you would with a PC or something. Yeah. Except you got to pay to do it. And it includes upkeep that I guess the engine would therefore be under greater wear. Sure.

So it requires more frequent visits to maintenance to oil change and that sort of. So I thought I was thinking, okay, we're not going to talk about $1,200 here. But let's say Brian's Kia Soul had a deal where you could pay, I don't know, 50 bucks a month. for some cool thing your car did. I don't know what it is. All right. So like, you know, 50 bucks a month. I mean, as long as it's like, because they offer a lot of places say like, all right, you've got your, you know, besides your oil changes, obviously, which is 7,500 to 10,000 miles, you know, between them.

Right, right. But they also have like a, all right, come in at your 15,000 mile, come in at your 30,000 mile. and each of those times they do a big like a laundry list of of things right um and i can't remember the whole list but it's a full diagnostic they go through the computer and they check everything and exactly they you know change the the cabin filter the the obviously the air filter things like that um you know i guess i guess if it basically included uh it was uh it was would have to, obviously would have to include, because that's almost the price, that's a little bit less than the price I pay for a full ass, a little change. Yeah. Uh, which I'm doing every, what, six months or 7,500 miles or whatever. So let's say they threw that in, that was included. If they threw, obviously, they'd have to throw that and they'd have to throw in, um, like regular tire rotations. They'd have to, uh, they'd have to, um, how about a little XM radio on top of all that? It's just like, here you go, have some old school radio from the satellites. I might, you know, I've been, I've been an XM, I've been an XM, um, serious guy since

since I got the car and I I do like the chill channel for for driving for Lyft because it feels like a very non-intrusive everybody kind of everybody doesn't hate it kind of thing right? Yeah it's like standard chocolate cake

everybody will have a piece it's fine and but really you know 99% of the time when I'm listening to when I'm not driving for Lyft is Howard Stern and I'm getting kind of irritated with his lack of his fewer interviews because that was the big thing for me

his interviews are great I can listen you know I'll put up with him talking crap about Baba Bowie and Ronnie the limo driver you know for for just so long but it's his interviews with folks like Paul McCartney and food fighters

I was good to say food fighters and Paul McCartney came out Fall McFartney or whatever he was going to say that's amazing that it's like you know his interviews were great, really, really good, and it's because he goes places that a mainstream interviewer probably can't because of FCC rules and things like that. But those are getting fewer and far between, and I could probably, you know, if Tina keeps

her subscription, I could probably just use the app and listen to just the interviews and just listen to Apple Music. Apple Music has been great, and their curated playlists are really good, the ones that they, you know, indie, top indie songs of 2019. It was like, oh, great, goes right from Vampire Weekend

into Foster the People over to Fits in the Tantrums and stuff like that. And that I'm really digging. I might actually be getting rid of Series XM, and I might, you know, it's going to finally be, let's see how low they go in their offers, because that was

my usual gig was when the subscription was about to run out and I needed to renew it, I'd call and say, yeah, I'm thinking about dropping Sirius XM and they would just keep like, oh, well, what if we gave you six months for 100 bucks? Yeah, or 12 months for... They love doing that.

Just like the old cable cancellations. They'll fight to keep you, man. Totally. It's like, if you could offer that, why aren't you offering that? Like, why am I already just paying that? If that's something, is that if you can handle that low. So I'll actually get to see what, uh, how low they go before I still finally

say, no, I'm not interested, but I'm curious. Like, all right, how about 20 bucks? Just 20 bucks. We'll give it to you for five years. Do 20 bucks? 20 bucks for five years. Yeah, just give us anything. You know what you can say? You say, look, I'll do it. I'll keep

your service. But you pay me to play. Right. Or, what you know, what serious XM channel is just not doing great and could use some better content? because I've got a bunch of shows for you.

I've got MorningStream. Oh, we can do Coverville. I've got Soundography. Let's do it. There was a guy years, years and years ago. This is probably, I don't know, seven, eight years ago. Somebody from XM or maybe serious, because I don't know if they'd merged yet. But somebody had come to me and said, hey, we're thinking about bringing on some podcasts just for content.

And at the time, I was like, let's do it. We're ready. Let's go. We'll put TMS up there. I think the instance, they want some gaming stuff. And I was all for it And then that guy got let go And that entire department got let go

So they're done Nothing happened Yeah they didn't do it Yeah it sucks I remember that And like rock and roll geek show Was on there for a hot minute It was like it was called XM

Something Stars channel Or a serious stars channel Or something like that And it was just basically them Taking podcasts and playing podcasts Yeah which I think was a cool idea A very cool idea Yeah, I don't know what their user base is and what they're doing now.

I mean, it's hard to say. It's such a weird business, so I assume that they rely mostly on pre-packaged car sales where they get three months free and then they retain people. I assume that's their main business now if I had to guess. Because I don't know too many people who are like, you know, you know what my old Honda needs. I don't think they're doing that. I could be wrong. No, probably not.

It's all the new stuff, exactly. Well, folks, if you have a Mercedes and you, you'd like to increase your speed. Let us know. And if you're overseas that you paid for heated seats, let us know how that's going. Yeah, I'd love to know how that went. I assume it was just a test, but even if you were in the test, I'd love to know how that, how did it feel to say, I'm, like, did you feel like you had to sit in it more?

You know how if you pay an MMO subscription and you're not playing, it feels bad? Yeah. Was it like, is it like, well, it's too hot here in the summer, but I kind of just want to get my money's worth. I'm going to go turn on my seats and have some heat in my bum. Oh, no. What's worse is when they say, well, we've, we've increased our price, but we've grandfathered you into the lower price as long as you don't cancel. And like, crap, I guess I'll keep it through the summer, so I'm not paying a hundred bucks a month, you know, once I fire it back up in the winter. Yeah, that's true. It's a weird thing. I understand. Everybody's got to milk every little penny out of everything now. That's what you do.

Yeah, exactly. But, by the way, sign up for our Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com slash the gym medicine. I don't, I, I will defer here and say, I do not believe, I do not believe we are the same as this, but, um, no, we are absolutely not. We actually give you stuff for your, for your money. Damn straight. And Brian's right. I'll sign up. Get on there. Patreon.com says TMS. Got a quick text to read from your heated seats and put that money towards T-M-S. Yeah, put it toward T-M-S. We need it. Here's a quick text from a listener. This is from Bin. It's all he wrote is B-I-N, Ben. B-N. All right. Dear Scott and Brian, this text is for you. Well, thanks. I appreciate

you're letting us know um i think covid is food born now and nobody or i'll read it like he wrote it okay and nobody is talking about this how else can you explain the uptick in cases right now i think people are eating food with covid in it um let's see and and that is the new way for peepoo to get it all the time i think he meant people but he put people but pee poo peepoo people do you think this is crazy because i don't uh yes i do think well i don't i'm not gonna say you're crazy i'm saying you're you're come out up with a thing based on nothing so maybe yeah i think the uptick is because people are getting together wearing fewer masks thinking that the that we're completely out of it and uh and and going back to uh business as

usual and um plus it's just the fall it always gets it always spikes in the fall just you know Yeah. It's everything Brian said plus fall plus, you know, variants happen. And then people are, whoa, caught off guard. We were caught off guard by it. We were still being really careful all the time. Sure. I don't, but I don't think your food-borne thing based on what?

Like, you know what? People, we all need to like do, think of, think outside the box like this, right? Like, you know, say, well, what if, what if it is this? And what if it is that? And, you know, you can do a little research and say, well, maybe there's something to it or, oh, no, I guess this proves that it. It can't be food-borne because it doesn't have... It needs X for the virus to actually survive for the virus to be able to make it. It needs X, and you can't get that from food.

So, I mean, you know, it's... But I like the thinking outside the box, bin. We're thinking outside the bin. Outside the bin. There you go. It's outside the bin. Let's use the name. Well, I hope pee-poo like you don't get it. Okay?

Exactly. I hope not. Hope less pee-poo get it and more pee-poo are protected this year. Right. I'm only going to say peepoo for people from now on. That's the real... People, yes. Many, many, fine, people. Peepoo.

I've got lots of good people. Good people. People told me all the time. They said... Best people. You have a way with people. Oh, that caught me funny. I have a way with peepoo.

All right. It's always triggers... Poor rainbow bright. This always triggers her. And I think Jeannie as well. You know what? We got a laugh at this dup. and the dumb things he says.

Yeah, it's the whole world. We're going to be hearing, I hate to say it, but let's prepare for hearing his stupid voice for the next couple of years and I'm going to make fun of it as much as I can. I mean, I'll admit one thing. I have zero, usually zero desire despite, it doesn't matter what year it is. I don't want to, I don't want to watch political debates. I can't do it. Right.

Just can't put myself through it. Yeah. But if you're telling me that the guy who lost and never considered. seated is going to be on stage with his former vice president who he threw under the bus completely exactly yes i kind of want to watch that i kind of want to watch it well i feel like i feel like we're going to see a very different set of republican debates when when those start coming up because um they've all had time to figure out his Achilles heels and his weaknesses and he probably is too much of a narcissist to think that he needs to pay attention to theirs.

So I feel like it's going to be, you know, it's going to be the zombies cannibalizing themselves kind of thing. I don't know. It should be interesting. They spent so many years licking his Achilles heel. I wonder if they'll remember where its weakness is. And he's burned all of them. Like, you know, Rob to Sanctimonious. I was telling Rob to Sanctimonious.

other day. Des sanctimonious. I hate that so much. Anyway, it's the worst. His nickname game has really gone down the tubes. I remember it was like, you know, what about Lion Ted? What about Lion Ted? Yeah.

If Ted runs again. Holy shit. Oh, God. Yeah. Hate him so much. All right. Can't tune Ted. Anyway.

Let's move on to this thing. Oh, hey, Brian. Remember Anaheim? I remember that. Tell me more. Two weeks ago, Anaheim. I barely remember it, Scott. But, uh, yeah.

Uh, so went to Anaheim for the concert, just for the concert, basically. Uh, Swade and Manick Street Preacher's excellent show, by the way. Um, we, I kind of, I, at the last second decided to pay for an upgrade. So it's at the House of Blues in Anaheim. And the, uh, it's an all general admission standing floor situation. Yeah, we used to do a blizzard thing there for influencers, and it was same, I think same space. And there was no sitting anywhere. You couldn't see it.

Yeah, no sitting. Unless you pay for an upgrade, and then you go up to the second level, which has the foundation room, a really nice, like, oaky bar with big padded seats and all that stuff. And then it's an upper level that goes around above the standing room only seats. and the foundation room you called it the foundation room every house of blues has one of those one in Vegas is the one that's at the very top of mandalay bay oh right right and it's 20 bucks a drink but it is worth paying for one of those drinks to to go up there and look at that view because you see all the way down the strip it's uh it's like when you see when you see photos taken from the south end of the strip it's usually taken from um the foundation room or or skyfall which they

make you adhere to the three laws of robotics while you're in the foundation? Deep cut, everybody. Deep cut. It's a very deep cut, yes. Anyway. You can't harm the robot bartender or make them cause harm to themselves.

Oh, okay, good. Anyway, so we're on this upper level and it's all seats, right? It's basically, Tina and I are, for I guess, whatever luck we had in me buying when I did, we are dead center

front of this kind of bar seating section, which is like tiered three or four rows of bar seats, nice little padded tall, high chair, high top chairs, and a nice little rail that you can put your elbows on, you have your drink on there, all that sort of thing, and then an aisle in front of us. And then in front of that is a slightly lower section that just has movie theater style seats. So the padded seat cushiony kind of ones with the chair parts that flap down. And so we had an unobstructed view of the stage right from the center, a little high, you know, far further back than the people standing, but I don't care, it was a great,

his stool was a great view. Yeah, so good. About halfway through Swade's opening set, they were the opening act, even though it was a co-headline thing. And we were guessing probably that throughout the tour, the two bands would swap, who's the opening act, and who's the headliner, because neither of them did encores. It was like, yeah, we do this big set and then the other band comes on, or the other band's on, then we do this big set kind of thing.

The people, the people directly in front of us in the lower seats, decide just the two of them, they're going to stand up and dance, which is totally, you know what, you paid for tickets, totally fine. I'm of the, here's my thinking on that sort of thing. If I go to a concert and I see the people around me, are getting up, most specifically the people behind me are standing, then I'll stand. But I'm not going to stand if the people behind me are not standing, because I'm not going to automatically impose my will on standing for a band on the people that I'm standing in front of, no matter

how much I like the band. Squeeze, crowded house, whatever. I'm not going to stand if the people behind me aren't standing. That's right. Well, I take that back. Here's the caveat to that rule. If the people in front of me are standing and I can't see unless I stand, well, yeah, then I'm standing. Ah, you got you. And then what are the, you think the people behind you are just like, it's just a cascade, right? Everybody just keeps in the cascade, right? It turns into a thing of like, all right, well, the person in the very front row stood up. So I guess the people in the second row standing up, then the people in the third row, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blub.

Yeah. Or Benjin asks, do you stand an R&M concert? Yes, but it's only in the place where you were. Oh, oh, shit. I always forget that. curve. Yeah, and then you face north. Yeah.

But nobody else in this whole area is standing just these two people. And I'm thinking, you know, you got to kind of look around and kind of gauge like, oh, you know what? I really like this band, but nobody else is standing. I guess we'll just kind of sit. Now, the good news is even with them standing because their seats were lower, they didn't block the stage for us, except when they started clapping above their heads. I don't know why.

You feel like you need to do that And doing a lot of fist bumping And jumping up and down and stuff like that It's like, all right, I could deal with this I've still got good seats I'm sitting down, I'm drinking my drink It's fine, it's fine It's like, and then they left after Swade

They didn't care about the Manix Street preachers So we had a completely... Oh, they were only there for the intro band? We were only there for Swade, yeah I guess that happens, people go just to see With the co-headline tour like this, totally expected. Tina was actually, she's a much bigger fan of Swade than she is the Preachers

or the Manix, I guess is you shorten the way you shorten their name. So she was like, yeah, I guess I would have liked Manick's opening and suede finishing just because the warm-up to the headliner. But both of them did an hour and a half, hour and 45-minute set. So they both did, you know, full headliner sets. Yeah, sounds like two full concerts, kind of. Yeah, yeah.

That's good, though. That's good, if you're going to a thing. Like, that's kind of how when I saw Ozzie and freaking, Metallica open for them or somebody? No. It was Metallica. And they were great and they went as long as he did. Yeah. And he sat in a chair the whole time.

So I kind of did just go for Metallica at the end of the day. But I kind of like that. Because then if you're a huge fan of one band, you don't want to go see three songs and then they're off stage. That would say. Right. Exactly. So that makes it. Yeah, I was considering seeing the Red Hot Chili Peppers tour

when it came through Denver because Heim was opening up for him. but I don't like the red-out chili peppers enough to want to see them perform. And who knows if Heim was going to do sick songs and then leave? It's like, uh, not worth it to me. I'll wait until they're, they've got to come back through and be a headliner at some point, even if it's in a smaller club or whatever. Yeah. They're also about 80% less naked than Flea when they're out there.

Right. Can we actually see Esty Heim come out wearing just a tube sock? That'd be okay. That'd be fine. That'd be fine. You know what? Tell Flea to take the afternoon off. Let's do one of the Haim ladies.

I'm going to give that tube sock to Estyheim. Well, maybe a fresh, clean tube sock for Sdieme. Don't, yeah, don't give her used. Oh, my gosh. Don't give anybody fleas used sock, all right? Let her make her weird base face with the, you know, the flea tube sock. She does make a weird base face. She makes the weirdest base face in rock and roll.

It's great. Is it a thing that others also have a base face, or is this a new term you've coined today? Like, could we say other bases? It is a new term I've coined. Well, it's not a new term I've coined today, but it's a term that's been coined, I think, around Estihheim and her base face. Interesting. Because I'm trying to picture other famous bassists and I can't see them making the faces she

makes. She might own this. This is her thing. It might. She might, yeah. I-Corps says base face is a thing or Matuba says, no, it's a thing. So base face apparently is a thing. Okay.

Did little Stephen Van Zand? I feel like he made a base face. His base face was the same face he made through the entire run of Sopranos. It's the same face. That's right. Yeah. He just looks as disgusted. Tony, me, Tony.

You want I should rub him out. And then Polly would come in and Lisp. Oh, I miss Polly. All right. One last thing, Khyber Crystals, because that was the other thing I was going to do all is out there. Oh, yeah. How'd that go? You can go to the Star Wars store in downtown Disney and buy Khyber Crystals.

went up there I said all right I'm going to I'm going for a black crystal so give me

five reds and she says well hold on because the ones we sell are the gold capped chiber crystals

which are the ones that are made for the holocrons and the Jedi the Sith the Sith holokrons and the Jedi cubes or maybe

they're all holocrines I can't keep track but they don't those don't have a chance of having a black crystal so

oh I'm glad she told you that's good that she said something you know yeah and she she's probably yeah I mean she would have this is this isn't she wasn't Bob Chappack and say yeah give me your money I'll take your money whatever I'll take care of it

but that was a big deal yesterday when you hear freaking Bob Iger coming back as a Disney fan I'm so happy to see that Jaypec was the worst thing to happen to Disney Sigur's not like Song of the South Iger's not like perfect he's got his issues but he's so much better of a brand rep for that company

He really is. He's way more customer focus than than Chepec was. But I'm going to take this off in a second. I don't know, like a, I don't know, like it looks like a... Yeah, this isn't bad. Just this right here.

The problem is it's pulling on my neck. This is a heavy sweatshirt. That's true. That's a big beefy one. Anyway, sorry. So the couple days after we were there, my uncle George and Aunt Barb went to Disneyland, and they picked up some khyber crystals for me.

So when I go to their house for Thanksgiving in two days, I'm going to do the, do the, the kiber crystal roulette and hope for a black crystal. Brian brings the pies to fry and they bring the crystals. Exactly. That's great. Pretty good exchange. You throw me the crystals. I'll throw you the pies.

Exactly. Don't trust that guy. He's not going to give you back the idol, but he will get stabbed. It'll be fine. That's great. Exactly. Well done. Fun stuff. We should get to some news.

Yeah, let's do it. We got news. Why not? I like news. Yeah. Today's news is brought to you by. 313 pizza in Harriman. Scott, why should people care about this?

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it's part of this new development out in Harriman, just across from the main road there or the main highway. And it's great. It's called 313 pizza. and it's totally worth checking out. I have some of the fridge. I'm so excited. Oh, very cool.

Yeah, there's a new place that opened up here called the Pie Dive, a little local family-owned place, and I've got to try it and see. See how it is. I'm up for some, I'm up for some Zah. Yeah, pizza, once in a while, something about fall weather, cold weather, early winter, and pizza for me,

cannot find a better combo. Oh, wait, I'd have to walk there. I can only go to places that I can walk. So I think we're committed to, Buffalo Wild Wings, Jersey Mikes, McDonald's, or Illegal Burger. Damn it! I mean, what is this? The 1800s, Brian has to walk.

Oh, my God. What is this? If it was warmer, I could bike ride. I'd be fine with that, but it's, you know, frigate 19 degrees out. I'm not bike riding in 19 degrees. I do that inside while Bacari in the, that's his name, Bacari and Apple Fitness Plus, yells at me. Bacari, whoa. Could you maybe push a little bit harder?

You know, how are you right now? You're at your heart level? could you maybe go all out for 30 seconds? And he's pre-recorded, right? He's not talking to you. Yeah, it's all pre-recorded. That always annoys me. It's worse.

Oh, no. For me, no. I don't want them looking like Peloton, like where they have the live instructors and seeing like, all right, well, oh, Brian in Colorado, he's only going 60 RPM? Oh, Brian in Colorado, speed up. Yeah, that's true. But I also, I just don't like when they talk to you as if they're there. And then know that they're not.

So it's like, oh, do you think? think you could just push a little bit more? It's like, I don't even know it. You never met me. You don't know me at all. You face this guy. I can't imagine what that's like for people to talk to people that they're technically not even interacting with live.

I didn't even think about it. A parisocial relationship with your Apple trainer. With your audience that listens to it after the fact with your, uh-huh. Never done that before. I don't know what that's about. Let's talk about this. this is a weird thing. And it's actually been holding on

of this since before I got sick for COVID. So not before COVID happened, but before I got it. I've been holding this story since 2019. Here it is. Oculus co-founder. Nobody likes this guy anymore.

His name's Palmer Lucky. He's the original dude. Oh, yeah. He's kind of an A-hole. But anyway, he has made a VR headset that can literally kill you. This is pretty weird.

This is the idea of dying in a video game simulation or game, a game or simulation could cause death in real life is a common trope in fictional works. Okay, so you see this and all sorts of stuff. William Gibson loves playing around with this.

Gamer with a three for an E. Yeah, remember that? That was bad. That was garbage. Anyway, Oculus co-founder and generally thought of to be a bit of an a hole. Palmer Lucky has made the concept real. On his personal blog, he wrote of a new VR headset

he is designed that uses three embedded explosive charges, planted above of the forehead. They can destroy the brain of the user. The lethal explosion is triggered via a narrow band photo sensor that can detect when the screen flashes red at a specific frequency.

He wrote, making it easy to set off during a game over screen. Oh, geez. To be clear, he says his deadly headset, which looks an image is just like a modified Quest Pro or something, is at this point just a piece of office art,

a thought-provoking reminder of unexplored avenues in game design. Yeah, whatever. He fancies himself a Banksy, does he? Yeah, good for him. Fancy's a great way of putting it when people are... That's a great show title.

Yeah, and plus when people are A-Holes like this, it's like, oh, you fancy yourself a Banksy, do you? I like that. There's a really cool Banksy, by the way, an actual one in Park City. Yeah. That because so many people try to get to it, the city built a, like,

a Faraday cage around it now. Wow. It's not a Faraday cage, but it's like, you know, a big productive cage with stuff, so you can't get to it. But I just thought that was interesting. It's like, here's a guy who, you know, he's obviously famous for this, but I assume it's a guy.

We don't really know who it is, do we? We still don't know who Banksie is. But whoever Banks he is, I think it's film star Alicia Silverstone personally, but until somebody proves me wrong. Well, she hasn't been up to much else. No, she's just busy chewing up food and spitting in her baby's mouth.

That's it. That's all she's doing. Mm-hmm. and then paint and walls and pretending she's a famous hidden artist. He's like a V-tuber without the tube or the V. Anyway. The V or the tube. No one knows who it is.

But anyway, I just thought it was interesting because the city, you know, normally they would say, we can't have somebody just painting shit on the walls with no permit or whatever. But in this case, they're like, oh, no, no, preserve it. Cover it. It's great, right? Like, he gets the, he gets kind of the cart blanche to, kind of literally, right, the blank card to do what he wants and paint where he wants because he's Banksy.

What's the name of that documentary? It was very good. Exit through the gift shop. Listen, chat. There's somebody, a couple of people in here have never heard of Banksy. Watch exit through the gift shop. Yeah. It's great. It's one of the best docs in 20 years. And then watch the video of the painting that he made that shredded itself once it got purchased.

Yeah, that thing's amazing. It really is. I mean, that was next level. After that, I thought, well, how does this person ever going to out Banksy themselves? But then there was just a string of regular old art. So, yeah. He doesn't care. She doesn't care.

Whatever, he, whoever. He, whoever that peepoo is. Whoever that peepoo is, this peepoo has got it on, got it going on. That's right. That's right. Anyway, you can kill yourself with this headset if you really wore it, but he's just being a dork. He's a guy. Super hot.

All of a sudden turns more super and more hot. Yeah. He's basically got a ton of a ton of. money and nothing to nothing going on that's what that yeah exactly this feels like uh let's see uh what can i do to get some attention really quick uh i know i'll make a headset that can kill you but not but just but just for art yeah just for art and this will get peepoo talking about me again that's right yeah which nobody wants scott and i record an episode to tms that you'll never hear because it contains the brown note and it'll make you instantly poop your pants yeah and uh but we just it's

actually, it's burned on to a flash drive and it's sitting on my wall right over there. That's right. You'll never hear it. You're never going to hear it. We're the banksy's a podcasters, everybody. Stand up, stand to the side. Exactly. Hellraiser. Remember Hellraiser? The pinheads and the what-nots? A fun kids movie that, uh, I feel like I could be wrong about this because my memory sucks and I haven't looked it up, so I probably could just look it up. But I thought, I could have sworn as a teenager. They may, so I know they made a Robocop Saturday morning kids show, even though Robocop itself was like this really bloody, ultra-violent.

Yeah, a hard R thing that just about pushed rated X level stuff back in the day. But somehow they made a kids cartoon at a Robocop. I swear they made, they made a Hellraiser cartoon, and it was for kids, and I can't get it out of my head. I don't know why I'm sure of this. I remember, okay, here, I do remember seeing somebody doing a animated pinhead maybe that's what I'm thinking of

I don't what was that from do you remember I don't that's what I don't remember it being from but I totally remember seeing this kind of weird stylized animated pinhead but I couldn't tell you what it was from yeah the chats bringing up the Rambo cartoon I knew about I remember that and that was another one of those and there was a thing there was a thing there for a while

where they would do this they would try to figure out a way to skew adult content to be kid fun you know and I swear there was like something with with that in the puzzle box and kids solving the box and then running from pinhead or something.

That's really funny. I don't know why. Oh, no, we got to get away. We just released Pinhead. I know, right? Plus the lady with the weird vagina neck and the guy with the chatter-teeth. I'm sure she wouldn't make it into the cartoon.

No, at least not in that shape. She's not. Well, anyway, this is the deal. Hellraiser puzzle box is now a toys kids can play with. So we're back to, we're back to the theater. It actually really is a thing. This is an actual thing. So it's either the coolest thing you've seen from a major retail,

or the most twisted, says this article. Or maybe just a little bit of both. According to the folks at Boing, Boing, Walmart is now, and this is Walmart, mind you. Walmart? Yep. Oh, my God. Selling toy replicas of the Lemerchens Lament configuration

from the Hellraiser franchise. I guess that's what's called the box. It's just called. The Lermertians Lament Configuration. I guess so. Never heard it before. Can we just call it the Hellraiser puzzle box? I mean, come on.

That's what I'm going to do. Let's see. Hellraiser puzzle box has become a stem toy. One intended for children to play with as they learn about technology engineering. Yes, the very puzzle box that unleashes centibytes onto the earthly plane and brings forth sadistic pleasures for them. In the Walmart ad, we can even see a father and daughter posing with the replica Hellraiser toy box. Let's see. Little Susie something.

There is right there. Pull this up so I can see. it with the chat room hold on oh geez there you go wow look at that look at these two see that susie you turn this way and then oh maybe if you push that piece there maybe the demon from hell will come and uh but make sure you get rid of that mattress the mattress get rid of the mattress this isn't there a oh yeah that mattress dude is a mattress it's someone's got to get rid of that mattress um isn't the whole deal though i i just saw the new one too during Halloween. The whole thing with this box is if you do it right, then a hook or a blade comes out

and cut you. And when you start bleeding, that's when the centibytes come through. Oh, really? So it's when you cut your, well, that's, uh, that's, uh, yes, you know, that's battery sold separately. I guess you have a knife sold separately. I'm just curious as to how they claim this is a stem. No, this is a STEM thing. How does this prepare you for science, technology, engineering, mechanics? I mean, maybe that's the idea is. I just don't think kids. Are math?

Is it the M math or mechanics? I thought it was. Oh, geez, now I don't know. I think M is math. It's memory, clearly, because I can't remember. Let's see, S-D-E-M is stands for, oh my gosh. Now I must know. Here it is, definition.

what is stem it stands for uh science technology engineering and mathematics so it is math yeah we should have looked at just bobby in the chat room so he would know yeah bobby would know of all the all the people in the know bobby's one of them for sure bobby would know i guess and it is there's engineering that makes the box but does it teach you about engineering to just is rubic's cube a stem toy now is that the deal yeah like that's that's exactly why wouldn't that be maybe it is i don't know we shouldn't say it because maybe it is well anyway walmart i want all my i want all i want an apology for all the albums you wouldn't carry in the 90s okay right yeah oh no that black crow's album with the the

close-up of the bikini bottom that's too much but ah here's a demon toy from hell yeah here's a demon toy go for it we'll teach you science yeah at the very least expose your child to a film franchise it'll freak him the f out exactly good job oh dad can i watch the movie that this thing came from oh no little sally we'll have to do that a different time ching ching and chains come out of the sky and pick your pull your flesh apart

that said how soon are we running out to buy these I kind of want one I'm not going to lie heck yeah you kidding me I want one just this is more than I could 3D print so I want to just buy one yeah if this was just a box painted up or whatever fine but this isn't this like moves

it opens up it like yeah like the the art that they show the configurations that it goes into is like, wow, this is pretty damn cool. Someone check availability while we do a song because I'd love to see if we can snag those. Yeah, let us know. Brian, speaking a song, we've got to play one and take a break when we come back. Bobby will be joining us first this week, Bill, after that. And so we'll get our science, then are making it on.

And that'll all happen in the wake, the shadow, really, of this song you've brought. So what do you got there? Well, back in 2019, I believe, or 2021, 2021, we played a song by this guy. J. Giddon, G-I-D-D-E-N. He's a singer-songwriter from St. Albums in the U.K. He got his influence from, like, radiohead, smashing pumpkins and the pixies. And for a while there, he friended a band called Traveler

before he decided to go solo. And this is his third solo album following, Have You Heard and Fool Yourself in 2019 and 2021. This is a brand-new album called Time Traveler, and the first single from it, which is called My Friend. Here is Mark J. Giddden. You fall so well No one would ever know

You're all to tell But they wouldn't want it so It could be bad But only if it is said You knew before when you were dead In your courageous time You've seen it all

Somewhere above the cloud Made up part To try to make the norm But that was too loud It's over and out of sight But she just might She just might Come over

And it feels right She just might She just might for you You cry so well But there's no one who can hear You bite to sell The last time you bought your fear You've been so down

That one hour is not so free To smash the cream smash the ground Creates me In your non-dest The time you Being possessed By someone who couldn't be

All the things you need you Find the green To be complete It's over and out of sight She just might She just might Come over She just died

She just lied for you She just lied for you So, you know, I'm going to be able to be. Lighty side and size, my friend, but she's there. Lighty side and side says, my friend, but she's dead. Light his side and side says, my friend, but she's dead. Lighty side and side says my friend, but she's dead.

Lighter side and side says my friend, my friend is dead. It's over and out of sight, because she just might, she just might. Come over when it feels right. Is she just mine? She just mine. It's over and out of sight. But she just might, she just might.

Come over when it feels right. She just mine. She just mine for you. What if I forget the sweet sound of her voice with a moist touch of her eyeball on my lips? Hey, I'm hurting here. I got pocketbook issues. I got inflation. I got gas. What are you going to do for me? The morning stream. I don't want to fire you, Jeffrey. I just want you to produce. All right, we're back, everybody. Tell me who that was one more time. Sure, that was Mark J. Giddden from his brand new album, which is called Time Traveler.

I got it from the future. It is a song called My Friend. Very, very nice. You know, if only I knew somebody who worked at a Walmart who could pick me up one of those boxes, i.e. my son, texting him right now. Text him now and say, get two. Tell them to get two or find out if I can get him here in Salt Lake. If I can't, I'll pay your son extra to get me one. Jay, we'll do.

Because I would love that. Hey, look who it is. It's brightly lit. Oh, now he's normal lit. Bobby Frankenberger joining us for a little bit of this right here. It's science time with Bobby, who runs a podcast all about science, all around science, is what it's called. And he joins us on Tuesdays to talk about the latest and greatest in science goings on. We missed you last week.

I was out of here. Obviously, it wasn't your fault. But it's good to have you back. How are you? Yeah, are you still? Are you still contagious? Do I, should I... No.

Yeah, you should be staying six feet away. Yes, Bobby. Home tests are nag. Negative. I feel like I shouldn't say nag. It sounds like I'm heading somewhere. I know, I know. You know, we both like the actress Ruth Negga.

Yeah, I like her a lot, actually. Yeah, she's great. She is great. I'm going to... So that's cool, although I was told that the ones where you get them at the hospital, what's that called? PC, not PCP. What is it?

PRC? PCR tests? PCR. Plymerase chain reaction for those of us in the know. Oh, my lord. Look at you. If I do that one, it will probably show that there's detectable levels of the virus load for like two months. Yeah, it's much more sensitive.

The PCR tests actually detect viral DNA little bits, and they're very good at that. So if you've got it floating around, which you will for a long. time after the virus is gone, or is no longer doing its job because there's dead virus particles floating around for a long, long time. Yeah, yeah. So it'll pick it up. So we were happy to know that on the on the cheapy, crappy home tests, we weren't good enough to wear masks and go to Costco.

Yeah, and you say cheapy, crappy home test, but for people who are impressionable listening at home, those are those are good tests. they just aren't, they're testing something different. Those rapid antigen tests is what they're called. They're testing for viral antigen, which are the big chunks of the particles of the virus that allow it to attach to your cells. So that's why they test for that because the presence of that is a much more reliable indicator that you are currently, that you currently have an infection going on and are probably contagious. And that's why you're digging around in your hose, because you got, that's where that stuff resides, right? You got a whole bunch of

hooey in there. Otherwise, you'd just, I don't know what you'd do, hold it in your urine stream or something. If you're looking for something deeper, you know. Right. Right. That's what you do. Well, excellent. Bobby, we're glad to have you here. I assume you brought a little satchel full of science knowledge. What'd you bring today? What's going on? Well, last time we talked, I said that I was going to talk about meteor impacts. Oh, yeah, right. Oh, right. Yeah. Because we avoided one. It went passed us. Bruce Willis did his job. We'll never see him again, but it worked.

And, yeah, so we're good, but so tell us more. And his son and her, his girlfriend are sad about it. They are, but you know what? They'll make it through because they know how to have a good time with an animal cracker. I'm telling you, they'll be fine. They'll be fine. Yes, they'll be just fine. Deep cuts.

Yeah, so I thought I'd talk about a meteor impact, and you were wondering, what happens at different sizes of meteor impacts and would we feel it all over the world? What would happen? And so I tried to gather as much information as I could. Do you have the game interstellar? Stell or something? Anyway, it's basically, they have it for VR as well,

but it's a PC game, it's not even a game. It's a demo where you are presented with our galaxy. And it runs, it's all based on actual space physics as we know them. and so everything's doing what it does the sun is where it is the earth is behaving the way it does objects around us like the moon and other planets they're all doing what they do

and all you have to do is go into this game and take your mouse and say all right what if I nudge the moon just you know a stellar inch closer to where the earth is and now let's see what happens and it creates just absolute chaos or if you do it with like Neptune a little bit

can't you I've never used it myself but can't you like specify my objects of particular mass and size and everything to smash into the Earth? A hundred percent, which is what, which is kind of where I was getting at, because at one point I did that. I created a giant meteor and I made it out of, I think, iron or something. You can kind of choose how much weight, mass, you know, all that stuff, velocity, direction, if it's already in orbit of something else, like all that kind of stuff. And every time I did that, it would impact the Earth and the Earth would just have this

massive knock-on effect all the way around it and basically make the entire thing in extinction level event. And it attracts like population. So it would tell you, oh, you're down to 2 million people survived total or something out of the 9 billion that we're here or whatever. That's, that's interesting. Yeah, I've never played with it myself. You'll have to, what was it called again? I'm going to look that up while you tell me how this would actually behave because I think you'd like it. Because I would like to play with that and see what it is. And how it, how it, um, compares to the numbers I'm about to give you, which I did a little research on. So first of all, what you should know about meteor impacts is that not to frighten you,

but they happen all the time. We're actually, I looked up some numbers. There are, this actually, this blew my mind, 17,000 meteorites per year. Oh, wow. Which, if you do the math, that's 46.6 meteorites per day. And our meteorites are the ones that get into our atmosphere but don't necessarily hit the ground. Like they could burn into, like they could be pea-sized. Meteorites do hit the ground.

They do hit the ground. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Wow. So there's meteoroids, meteors, and meteorites. Meteorodes are like potential meteors. And you can get treatment for that.

There's some treatments for meteorites. You don't have to. I hear if you give them a pineapple, they'll evolve into a, uh. Yeah, this is the evolution. there's a the a meteor is just um anything that that enters the earth's atmosphere and if it survives far enough to get down through the atmosphere it's a meteorite um but uh most most of these are obviously really tiny pebble-sized meteorites and so nobody knows anything about it and um they actually calculated the odds of any single person this is interesting the odds of any single person

So, like, Brian, the odds of you, well, not you actually, because this is any single person born in 2005. I'm not single anymore. Oh, that's true. You're also married. Not anymore. I did not do enough research. Let's out single people. All the single people.

The odds of any single person born in 2005 dying of an impact of a meteorite is one in 200,000. Oh, wow. it seems high to me though it seems like seems way more common than I'd like I know 200,000 is a lot but still like if you're 17,000 of these are falling down is it just in your lifetime

a 1 in 200 or 1 in 200 thousand every year over the course of your entire life okay all right the odds that you will die of a meteor impact yes okay so so anyway let's say a meteor's coming in to the earth what's going to happen

first of all meteors travel at a bad they impact the earth about 30 to 40,000 miles per hour, that's 17 kilometers per second. So pretty fast. The last major meteor impact that really impacted, because what do you care about? You care about life on Earth. How is it going to impact our life? That was the famous Chick-Salube meteor impact 66 million years ago. That's not a real name.

Chick-Salube. Come on now. Is that real? It's actually a place in Mexico. You're just lobbing easy shots over the net to see. Scott. Because you know what this sounds? That sounds like a Star Wars character.

Chick-Salube. Yeah. Anyway, continue. So it was an asteroid that was 10 kilometers wide, that's six miles wide. And it created an 180 kilometer, it created 110 mile wide a meteor that was 12 miles deep. And it was a 100,000 gigatone impact. Jeez. Yeah.

Okay. It seems high. It is very high. I mean, it launched 25 trillion metric tons of material into the atmosphere. It blanketed the earth. And it was responsible for the mass extinction that killed off the dinosaurs. 75% of life on Earth went extinct from this. There were wildfires that covered 70% of the forests on Earth.

Oh, my gosh. Because of this. Yeah. Wow. There is, so it happened in Mexico, right? right off the coast of Mexico and there's evidence

that evidence of instantaneous die-off as far as New Jersey so it was pretty far away that things were instantaneous that's a weird thing to measure isn't it?

Like of all the places that it reached, New Jersey was the place? New Jersey! That's weird. Maybe they were just, I don't know. Maybe it was where they were hoping at least something hit New Jersey. I don't know. So that's, so that actually sounds a little less hardcore than I expected. Maybe the thing I made in, oh, it's by the way, universal, universe sandbox is the name of the game. It's been out since 2015 in early access and it still is. They're still

updating it all the time. I don't know when it hits 1.0, but it's overwhelmingly positive reviews for all these years now. It's very, very cool. But finding out it's still in early access is a very odd thing to find out. Anyway, I put a link in the chat if anybody wants to check that out. It's very, very cool. And it's only, well, right now it's 30 bucks. You can find it on sale quite a bit, but it's rad. I've created some seriously nightmare scenarios for our universe. It's been great. Well, so you said it seems smaller than you thought, but it was, it's a pretty big deal. Like, it was, it created mega tsunamis that were 330 feet tall. they think that the immediate waves that were created were a mile tall

and it rippled the sea floor as far away as Louisiana and Texas damn yeah so pretty pretty big deal but let's go a couple step by step smaller asteroids to see what kind of things would happen so if there's a if you have an asteroid or a meteorite that hits the earth that's smaller than one meter, let's say, then those aren't going to make it to Earth. Those are what we call meteoroids, so it wouldn't actually be a meteorite. If it's one meter by the time it hits the Earth's atmosphere, usually we'll get burned up in the atmosphere. Okay. So anything bigger, it needs to be a little bit bigger than that in order to make it all the way. So that

Armageddon thing where it's just raining rocks, that's a pretty, that'd be pretty rare. You're not going to see that. Well, those were probably pretty big when you destroy a very large asteroid, probably pretty big sized chunks are going to come down. And that's part of why people, why scientists and, you know, NASA and other organizations study, how are we going to deal with this? Because they don't want to do something that's going to send a bunch of large things to Earth that would make it into the atmosphere. Right, right.

But what about a house-sized asteroid? That's about like 10 meters wide, like a regular old house-sized. Like it's just a standard, little family, three bedroom, two-bathroom, two-bathroom kind of. Right, 2.3 baths. Okay. Right. Let's say it's going at the same speed that we would expect 30 to 40,000 miles per hour. The energy that it would have is the energy of the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima.

Jeez. 20 kilotons from a house-sized asteroid. It would probably explode in the air. It would never actually make it to Earth. But that's a big deal. You still call those meteorites, I believe, because it's, they call them airbursts. It's just the energy gets so high and it gets so hot that it just can't hold itself together and it explodes. Okay.

And it would flatten reinforced concrete buildings in a one and a half mile radius. Even if it exploded, so sub-atmosphere, it's in our atmosphere, but not too low. Like, are we talking hundreds of feet up there? Like, what are we talking about? 100,000 feet 100,000 feet So that much of that An explosion there directly below that

Let's say it's New York City You are wiping out the city That's from my research That's what it's talking about Yeah it would It would It would destroy It would do significant damage

To a major city Yeah That type of This is interesting That type of House-sized asteroid striking the earth has a probability of happening once every 10 years only

and so it does happen and you might be wondering why don't we hear every 10 years about this happening that's because most of the earth is covered in water and not populated and so it does happen and we just don't know about it there were we actually did see

there was one not too long ago in 2018 you remember the thing that exploded over, went over Russia. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, everybody had it on their dash cams. Yeah, that was something like this. Oh, that was something of a similar size to this. Interesting.

Wow, okay. And where did that end up landing? It didn't land anywhere, exploded in the atmosphere. Okay, so it did the thing you're saying, but did it hurt anybody? Did anybody get wrecked? It did hurt people. I don't know if anybody, I don't know if there were any fatalities. I don't remember, and I didn't look into that.

But I know that there was a lot of building damage. That's from the videos we saw. There were, like, window shattering and stuff like that. Oh, right, yeah. That was a unique one because it was caught by so many cameras, right? I mean, it was like noonday sun directly in your face for a second thing. Right, exactly. Like, you know.

Yeah. Wow. And also, there was another recorded one in 1988. Also in Russia? That happened. I don't know. about in Russia, but that was just another recorded one. So certainly they're happening and they're happening

in places where they're not recorded. And that's why we don't hear all about it. I can see the Russia I can see actually that part of the world having not more of these, but because it's a big expanse of space, that part of Asia, maybe you have a higher chance,

you know, as benescules as it may be of actually getting in one of these to hit grand. Maybe that's, it's, I mean, Russia's really big, but it's not super populated. That's true. Like all that area is not really populated. That's true. A lot of that is just cold and terrible.

Yeah. There was another, have you heard of the Tunguska meteor? No, that also sounds like a fake Star Wars name, but go ahead. Yeah, like there was a... The Tenghiska, you cut open and get warm. About the Tunguska. But in 1908 over Tunguska, Russia, there was, again, Russia in Siberia. So maybe there's something to what you're saying.

Yeah, maybe. There was a 37 meter wide asteroid that blew up over the Siberian forest. It mowed down trees, completely flattened trees for many, many miles around it. This is the interesting thing. There were reports of people 20 miles away being thrown into the air. And 40 miles away, there was at least one man who claims that he was thrown from his chair. and this is 40 miles away from a 37 meter wide asteroid exploding. I was thrown from chair, I swear, this happened to me.

So hold on a second. Like, it was a terrible. Hey, here's a joke for you. If 400 acres of forestry falls over, does it make a sound? Anyway. It did make a sound. That's how this man knew to report it. from 40 miles away.

Oh, good. Good, good. Good for him. So, very interesting. At least 40 miles away, whether he's exaggerating being thrown from his chair or not, he must have at least known about it, right, to say something about it. So where do people find the fragments they find? Is it from the aftermath of one of these sorts of deals and something just makes it through and tumbles and lands in a field somewhere? Sure, sure. From these kinds of things, you will find fragments, but you find fragments all the time. Lots of small things make it to the earth all the time. And they're everywhere, really. There are people who go out and search for them. If you look up on YouTube, I'm not going to give you the details about how to do it because I don't know them off the top of my head. But there's like magnets you can use and go out into the street and just drag huge neodymium magnets.

And there's a decent chance that you will find meteorite dust or fragments just outside in your neighborhood. because it's happening all the time, very tiny particles all the time. Oh, yeah, so I found one. The guy's got a little, he found a little hunk near where he lives. This kind of makes me want to do this. How do you get a hold of a giant brick-sized nightmare magnet thing like that? You can order them online, neodymium magnets. They're not, they're not cheap.

Yeah. I get the little tiny circular ones to put in my 3D stuff, but I can't imagine getting a brick one. Yeah, because those tiny ones are pretty strong. They don't stick to, like, the other packages that have metal in them. Oh, so this is, I guess, not necessarily related to meteors, but that's interesting because my father-in-law has a really strong magnet. He was asking me about it because he works on industrial kitchen equipment for his job. And they use magnets in these, like, in these slicers and everything, really strong neodymia magnets. And he had an extra one.

He had an idea for it. And I told him, all you have, they're very strong, but the range of the magnet is not huge. So if you just have something around it, like foam a couple inches around it, then it's fine. Like, you're not going to... Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Because the range, the drop off is very quick on it.

But if you get close to it, it's going to... Are they expensive because they're rare? Is that why? No, I don't know about them being rare, but they're just... Probably just because there's not a high demand, so they need to have the price. I'm sure it's just economics. That's a good point. I kind of just, so rare earth magnets aren't the same as that, though.

That's a different thing. I don't want to say for sure, but I think neodymium magnets are a type of rare earth magnet, I think. Okay, okay. I love magnets. Real quick, before we finish up, if it's a 20-story building, that's how big it is, like 60 meters wide, 200 feet, then it would have the energy of the largest nuclear bomb in modern days, 25 to 50 megatons. It would flattened reinforced concrete buildings in a five-mile radius, and it would destroy most major cities in the U.S. This happens likely to happen once every thousand years.

Wow. I don't like, those seem like too good a BODs. I don't like that. So again, it's never been recorded that one that size has happened, even though it's once every thousand years. But that's because most of the earth does not have people on it. you know um so so yeah it might hit the earth but the likelihood that it's going to be near someone who sees it is very low actually uh the ones you have to really worry about are those big ones that just killed all the dinosaurs so how big would it have to be to destroy everything on earth

yeah extinction level event tell me what we're looking at here right so we're looking at one that's like seven to eight miles wide yeah uh six miles the for reference again, the Chixilube impact, that was an asteroid that was six miles wide and it killed 75% of all life on Earth. You probably need it to be about 7 to 8 miles wide to kill everything on Earth, or at least most

everything. Scientists think that at least a tiny bit of life would probably survive, but it would create a dust plume that would envelop the entire planet. Billions of people would die. If you want to guarantee that every living thing on Earth will die, it needs to be

60 miles wide. That's a guaranteeing, though. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Jeez. All right. By the way, Rainbow Bright in the chat room wanted me to ask you, have you seen Greenland, Bobby? Oh, the movie.

Have I seen Green? Oh. The movie, yeah. No, I have not. No. It's stupid. Gerard Butler and. Yeah.

Yeah, but it talks about an event like this. You know what? I liked it better than Geostorm, which is the other Gerard Butler. Yes. I'll give them that. I had a little bit better time with Greenland. Yeah, a lot more fun with Greenland. That's a better acting overall.

I thought everybody was just like better in it. Didn't have Marina Bacherin or am I? No, that's her. Yep, that's his wife. Yeah. Yep, totally. And then somebody else was great in that who didn't live long. Old guy.

I can't think of who I'm thinking of. Yes, he was right. He was in the, like, he kidnapped her in the car. Yes. And the kids. And it was. What's his name? Oh, shoot.

It's good, though. It is good. You know what? You know what? I'm going to go ahead. retract what I said. Greenland's all right. It's all right. It's not the best movie you're going to see. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying of these end times movies. It's all right. Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. Gets gets the job done. Bobby, this is fascinating stuff. I am very glad that you brought it to us because I like science and magnets. Two of my favorite things in the world, science and magnets. And hey, there's a science to magnets as we learned when you're trying to find meteor bits out in your backyard. So good luck, everybody, with that. Is there anything you'd like to tell us about your show, anything coming up that's cool? before we let you go. Well, yep, so the podcast that I'm on

is called All Around Science. Me and Mora talk about science every week. We just talked about what are the parasites that are responsible for real-life zombie infection. Damn. So they're called cortisps, and

it's pretty fascinating and kind of terrifying to think about what what insects who get zombified must be going through when it happens. But we just talked about that on the episode we released yesterday

as well as robots taking over universities. They're starting to release them. It's happening. Good Lord. It's happening. It's happening. It's all apocalyptic over on all around science this week. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So check that out

all around science. And thanks for accommodating my early... I've got to go run off now and teach my first grade daughter's class about science actually. Oh, very cool. About surface tension, right? Or something? Surface tension, yeah. We're doing, you know the old

experiment where you try to fill a penny with water droplets and see how many you can get? And it's like... That's right. Yeah. We're doing that and we're going to talk about surface tension and do some math. Are you going to do the thing where they all get to walk up and do a drop? And the next kid gets to do a drop and they're all just like... Everybody's getting their own penny. Their own eye dropper

and their own water. Well, look at you, Big Spender. I'll be Elon Musk in that place. Tell those kids not to put the pennies in their mouth it's yeah no it's no expense they taste like don't eat the penny yeah they don't taste like copper because they made a copper okay they taste like cop because they fit in somebody's g-string all right see you later bobby have a good one all right there goes bobby and as you know bill duran also comes on uh this show here and uh talks to us about the world of making stuff which i'm really looking forward to and uh big thanks to him for accommodating today as well your bat caves open there bill

Bill Duran joining us all the way from the Pacific Northwest and the home of PunishProps.com. Bill, welcome back to the show. Hello. Hey, man. Hello. Hope you had a good couple of weeks since we've seen you last. I did. I didn't have COVID.

Oh, good. I'm glad. Are you still dodged it all this time? No, we got it in September, but I seem to have bounced back 100%. So, good job. I'm hoping for the same for you. Oh, that's right. You came back from DragonCon with it.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now I remember that. I'm glad yours wasn't freaking heinous. I'm glad it was okay. Everybody I know had something slightly different. I got a guy across the street that says that he hasn't had a solid poo since he had COVID. Oh, no.

And that was a year ago. Gosh. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. And I don't know what that means or is. It's probably some other unrelated or exacerbated thing. I don't know, but I keep telling him.

Bob, his name is Bob. You need to go get that looked at. I don't need no, Dr. Polaro. It's even eating since COVID. Maybe there's something there that he's not telling us. Yeah, I'm like, I don't think I'm equipped to diagnose you, Bob. You're going to have to go in there on your own. I've just been eating nothing, but spicy wings.

Spice your wing, that's normal after COVID, isn't it? Anyway, hey, Bill, it's good to have you back. Let's talk about what you're working on this week. Yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit about AI generated art. Oh, great. That's a very of a hot topic right now. It is. haven't done any dabbling myself, but I've been paying attention a lot. And I follow a lot of

creative people who have been tinkering a bit with it. Now, of course, some people are very excited by the possibilities and other people are worried that AI generated art may make it harder for human artists to earn a living. So yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why it's being discussed so much. There is some concern. Yeah. I can tell you, I can tell you from certain art circles that I hang out in, the big concern isn't that the robots are better or will be better. It's that people's standards will go lower and accept it because it's cheaper. In other words, like, oh, I can, for free, I can generate this illustration that I kind of want for my website instead of paying an illustrator to do it. And it's kind of good. So I guess,

yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, that's exactly it right there. I think that's where people have some concerns. And it's just like a overall lowering of the standards. Sure, yeah. And that's a valid concern. I'll get to that in a minute, but I have a few other things I want to outline too. I think people don't quite understand how much of an impact AI has had on art already

and how much it's used to enhance art already. So, for example, if you have an iPhone, if you take a photo with that iPhone, take a photo then immediately go to the camera roll and look at the photo, and it will, it'll change. change. The photo will sharpen a tiny bit. And you can actually see it happening on your phone. It's processing your photo with artificial intelligence. It's making it look a little better

compared to whatever Apple thinks is it makes a better photo. The way I understand it is that it's taking nine shots or some number of shots really quickly like ba-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-m and then AI is choosing which one looks the clearest and the best. Right. It does it does additional processing on top of that. It does that too. Okay, gotcha. And then also things like websites, apps, cameras. So if you post a photo on Facebook, let's say there's a button you can push that's basically like, make this look better. Photo apps on your phone and websites.

They all have some version of this where it's basically taking a photo you already took and it's processing it to make it look better. I also use apps like Lightroom and other photo processing apps that do things like masking or effects or effects or, restoration effects using AI. And Adobe's content-aware fill is another really good example of how this has been used for a long time to enhance or add to a creative project. So I think it's important to point out that AI-generated art is new, but AI has been doing its thing in art for a long time. Yeah, and it's part of what you're seeing now is the result of that machine learning.

Because every time, so you just mention, you know, the phone kind of picks the best shot and picks the best settings and whatever, you're part of that neural learning process. So that very photo is part of its system of saying, hey, we did another one. And also we learned a little something because Brian had a weird glint in his eye in this photo or whatever. And then that machine learning is taken forward to the next one

and the next one. This stuff's like it's cumulative over time, which is why a lot of the art generation stuff you see kind of has a samey look to it. Right. It's all like kind of the same. It's because these things are amalgaming, amalgamating from all the same sources and all the same existing art. And then they're pooping it out in a very similar way. Yeah. Plus, you'll notice that none of them have traffic lights and crosswalks in them because robots can't identify those things. Or buses. Or buses. Or tractors. Tractors are pretty good.

I don't know how it tries to generate text. Oh, yeah. I think it's cool. I think it looks like an alien language. It does. Yeah. I did that Avatar AvatarMe.AI or Avatar AI. I can't remember which it is. And a few of them are Grand Theft Auto inspired.

And it tries to do a weird Grand Theft Auto logo that looks like some sort of alien, like it looks like Arabish, Aribosh, whatever the Star Wars font, the text is it Arabosh? Yeah. Yeah. And it does it all effed. It's effed. It doesn't...

It's all effed. It's weird. Yeah. And they also can't do hands. It's the weirdest thing like they cannot figure out. Yeah, by the way, if he thought humans were already struggled with hands, because we do. Drawn hands is hard. Computers also have a really hard time drawn hands. Thanks, I core. Arabeche.

Okay. Arrubesh. Is that it? Okay. So I think it's actually kind of cool. We're going through this era where AI generated art is struggling with a few things, and it will get better. But right now, it's like you're describing something to an alien who barely speaks the language and has never been to Earth. You know, who's never seen a human being or her hands before, and you have to kind of explain it to him.

And he's like, okay, I'll draw it. Yeah. So it's kind of a neat time to be seeing this stuff happen. Right. Now, all the time, whenever I see something that's controversial, I try and find a historical context. And I like to compare what's happening right now to what happened with painters and photographers in the late 1800s. Yeah. So painters were worried that this newfangled tech photography would replace them because the camera

could do what they do, which is replicate reality, right, in a much quicker time, like, staggeringly quicker. So the way artists responded is they invented French Impressionism. Those painters instead went on to make paintings that you couldn't create with a camera. And it led to an era of unprecedented creativity. And I can see something similar happening now with AI art. People going, oh, it's cool that you can just type text and make an image. But as a human being, what can I do that the machine can't do?

What can I bring to the project that a machine can't do? And people value that stuff. And I think they will always value that stuff. I agree. And especially in that context, the bigger fear that people have is that there's a lot of in-between middlework that's being done right now by artists. So, you know, if you're going to have an illustration for your article on Newsweek.com, they're going to contract you. You're going to do this image. They're going to approve it.

They're going to pay you. and that's how your contract life works. If suddenly a computer can do all the middle work and not just the inspiring, fringy stuff like French impressionism, but everything in the middle, this like work-a-day stuff, that does kind of go away. Sure, yeah. In theory, like one of the best examples I heard was,

and this is already happening and happening in such a way that you wouldn't even know it's happening. But if you are a company, a small company making a computer-based RPG, You want to make a top-down kind of Baldur's Gate sort of game. Back in the day, you would have to contract or license 50-60 art portraits for character portraits. And if you were working with Wizard of the Coast, maybe you already had all those because you've already paid for all that art. But if you're starting young and you're just a new company, you have to pay to make all of these individual things. Here's a barbarian.

Here's that same barbarian with a patch on his eye. Here's a lady. Here's an elf. Here's a whatever. And so that's just the way that was. It was an expensive proposition for the developers. Now there are tools for them to literally have that done in about five minutes and fill a hundred slots of very diverse, interesting, stylized painterly looking character portraits in like a snap. Why wouldn't you do that?

Of course you would. I would. If I were them, 100% I would do that. And so now there's this middle ground where these. artists don't have that opportunity it's that stuff I worry about more than the you know more than like hey will artists go away absolutely not and 100% not um in fact will they have a bit of a resurgence because of their their style is more valued or probably again on those fringes but what about that everyday stuff I don't know about that yet it's hard to say yeah yeah I um the

example I was thinking of too so um my recommended video today is going to be a video for from our friend Jazza, where he hired people on fiber to make art for him, and then he basically compared them and what he paid to what an AI could do. Yeah. So if you're making art every day doing small projects for people like on fiber, then, yeah, AI art is going to be a struggle for you to compete against. Mm-hmm. I have some really fun speculation.

I'd like to just throw some predictions out into the world about AI art. Go for it. So I could actually see this leading to a resurgence in hand-drawn art, right? Pen and paper, there's no computer involved. I think there are going to be people that will always value that tactile thing. And I can see this actually leading to a resurgence. It's kind of like a backlash of this, yeah, leading to more. Sure.

I can see that. There are people that are, I'm not like emotional about AI art, but there are a lot of people that are, that feel affronted by this thing and want to lean really hard in the other direction. there's a whole other issue at stake which is not necessarily related to what you're talking about but there is this thing of the machines are in terms of outputting like painterly or stylistic art the machine learning is happening on top of art actual artists and so a lot of these generators are like would you like to see this in the style of Alex Ross would you like to see this in the style of so and so or whatever and so they're learning they're they're learning based on in some cases 50 60 year careers of these artists and they're getting getting nothing for this. Yeah, yeah. Right. So in essence, we're creating a supercomputer that can copy these people, but without the ethics block that normal people would be stopped for copying people.

So there's that issue. I think it's probably not, that's not like gigantic or omnipresent or anything. Because as much as I'm, as much as I can understand why people are freaked out about this digging into their creative space and resenting it, I do understand those feelings. I think in the end, it's going to be more practical usage that you don't normally get with an artist. And that means some of the stuff I talked about earlier, but also, you know, what's it like? It's like, Tom always brings this up. It's like Lotus 1, 2, 3 when it happened, every accountant on the planet thought their job was going to go away.

And instead, it created a ton of new ones. And I don't know if this is, you know, this isn't a one-to-one comparison to that. But almost always, this is how things go. It'll evolve and we'll move on to something else. When it was paper to digital, whether it was typesetting to desktop publishing, whatever these transitions are, we usually weather it. Right. But this is one of those cases where I get, you know, people who spend 90 hours on a piece and a computer can study their work and now poop something out similar in five and a half minutes, that's really disconcerting to them. Yeah, that is definitely concerning.

a couple more things real quick though I do think there are a ton of upsides to AI generated art and I think it'll be used effectively especially as a tool early in the development of creative projects for especially small teams or even teams of one like people, a developer is making a video game

all on their own like you were saying they can just grab a bunch of art even if it's just a placeholder it'll let them move forward with the project and then finally when it comes to the idea of a craft, let's say, being put out to pasture by a technology.

I think it's important to point out that there are still people today who make a living with things like printing presses and making stained glass or blacksmithing or tin-type photography. They're still, they're niche, right? These are small cottage industries, but people still make a living doing that, no matter how archaic their craft is.

So if you're creative, you will always be able to find a way to make a living with your art. but this AI art might force you to be a lot more creative. I have a couple of artists friends who like it because they can do basically it's used as a sketch tool. So you sit down and you type in a string like cliffs and ocean side, whatever, you know, whatever you're seen as you're coming up with. It's like a hyper-advanced Google image search. Kind of, yeah.

You can find literally anything. And then that'll pop up and they're like, oh, yeah, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm going to make some tweaks here. but this is going to be the basis for what I do. And then it's all manual process from there. They're just doing it like any other reference image. I think a lot of that will happen, you know. And that's, and nothing wrong with that.

I have one, at least one drawing in my stuff from the last few months that was inspired by one of these quick, you know, dally searches or something. And I went, oh, I kind of like how that dude looks. I'm going to make a bigger version of that. So I think that can happen. I'm cautiously optimistic. We're going to hear from people who are like, this is the worst thing ever to happen to art, and we're going to hear from people that are to like,

yeah, man, computers solve all our problems. But I think there's probably, like most things, some stuff in the middle, you know. And we'll come together as men and we'll figure it out, okay? That's what we're going to do. We'll do it. That's awesome, dude. And I also like your, I don't want to just let this flop past. I like your desire when you hear about a controversial technology or a controversial change

to the way something works or whatever is to look for historical precedence. I love doing that. Oh, yeah. It's great. And I know my stuff too. I took U.S. history three times. Damn, dude.

Look at you. That's awesome. I follow some dude on Twitter who I absolutely love this guy and I can never remember his name so I can never recommend it when it's on the air. But all he does is this. So if something's controversial at the moment, let's say, somebody thinks COVID-19 shots are the reason why people died or something dumb.

He'll just find old news clippings and he'll work backwards. Here's a from the outbreak in the of SARS in the early 2000s and everybody was saying then and you'd be surprised how much we freaking repeat ourselves. And then again it happened here and then he's, you know, he's all the way back into the 1800s. It's like far back as he can go and he's still finding this stuff. um so it's usually things like you know kids kids in video games so then he'll go find stuff like okay well kids and comics kids and tv kids and movies kids and you know come all the way back to kids in their damn cave drawings basically um yeah and i love that someone was pointing out all

these news clippings over the last hundred years of people saying how seattle isn't cool anymore people have been saying that for a hundred years it's part of what makes it cool you know It continues to be cool because people badmouth it, so then it's cool again. I like it. I like it. And we think you're cool, Bill. Tell us more about this week's bonus link. You probably got something there.

Yeah. Like I said, a link to our friend Jazza, the illustrator out of Australia. He did a video where he, like I said, hired people on Fiverr to make stuff, and then he tried to get the same thing out of his AI art. And I think it's very interesting the results he got. Interesting. Awesome. And we followed this dude before.

You bring him up a lot. This guy's pretty. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jazz is very much on top of what's going on in art and illustration. I think it's good to be. It's good to know this stuff if you're in that world and not just hide in the corner with your sketchbook and hope it all goes away because it probably isn't going to. Awesome.

Great stuff. As always, Punchprops.com is the place to go check out Bill's stuff and his YouTube channel, of course. skip on that. Bill DeRan, have a fantastic week, and thanks for adjusting your schedule today. We appreciate it. Not a problem. See you guys. See you, man. Thanks. See, Bill. Bye, Bill. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, all right, we got a quick email, and we're out of here after this. Actually, I think this might be a text. It doesn't matter. Here it is. Hey, skin and bald. Okay. I guess I have skin, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. Although, you know something. I didn't

bring this up on the show before but this has happened now in 2008 it happened when I had that horrible flu that last like 12 days fever all that it happened um one other time when I was younger and then this last week with COVID this stuff affects my hair so like my hair's a little thinner everywhere and my beard kind of stopped growing it's just stuck where it was and it feels a little weird. So I think there's, Kim's like, it's probably because you got, you know, you got proteins and stuff in your hair. And if you, if you're, it's like when the people get severely sick and they come out of it with alopecia, that happens. It's like that. Like your body is, your body is fighting this thing and it's using the resources that normally

would go towards producing follicles. Yeah. Something like that. And I think that's what's happening. So I got a, I don't know what I'm supposed to do to reverse it, but I don't like it. It feels, everything feels weird. My hair feels weird. It'll go back to normal, I'm sure. Yeah, I hope so. When it's ready. It's hardly the worst side of it. No, I'll take it.

I'll take this over like heart valve damage. Right, exactly, yeah. Anyway, hay skin and bald. I hope you and Kim are getting better. I feel for you. Thanks. My wife and I were COVID free until about six weeks ago when I started getting a headache on a Sunday night, and we both tested positive on the following Tuesday.

It was rough, and I had, like, sinus pressure in my head that my left jaw, or sorry, my left jaw for weeks until it finally subsided. Pressure in his head and his left jaw for weeks until that red weird to me but you're absolutely right. We're okay now and hope you will be soon. Thanks your friend, Tony and Buffalo.

Well, thank you, Tony. It's very nice. For weeks after after having COVID. Oh, God. But I keep hearing about, I mean, I feel like I'm, well, whatever. I don't want to knock on, here, there's some wood. Yeah. The taste and smell thing is supposed to,

well, a lot of people last a long time. I'm already smelling way better and tasting way better, so... Oh, good. Good. That Dr. Pepper Zero, you were just drinking is not taste like hand lotion? No, it's not like lotion anymore. Okay, good. Let me see. I mean, hints of lotion, I guess.

Okay. Yeah, but better than, even like better than yesterday when you were saying it tastes like lotion. Yeah. And also next time, hints of lotion goes to Anaheim, you should go for that concert as well. Hints of Lotion. Love Hints of Lotion. Hopefully they're the headliner and not the opening act. Yeah. Well, you get an hour and a half either way. Watch for the dancing people in front of it.

Let's move on to this. Oh, shows today. Today we got the Play Retro at 3.30 Mountain Time. After being put off a week, it is back. And we're doing all things, Baldur's Gate, one and two in particular, as they are the most retro of the group. But we'll talk a little bit about the upcoming three and when I think of that. Anyway, that'll be today at 330 Mountain Time right here at frogpans.

TV. Check out me and Brian Dunaway on a new episode of Play Retro. Brian, you get any shows going on or anything today? we shouldn't mention. Today, I think I'm going to, I might actually do a Marvel Snap live stream for a little bit. You should do it right after the show because I have a meeting and I can't do anything on the post show. So you should do it right then and we'll just raid you. Possibly.

Oh, unless you have stuff. I don't want to assume. Because then we could rage you. Yeah, actually, I might. I might be free. I don't know if Red Fragle is free, but well, if you do, I'll raid you live on the show and then you'll have everybody. everybody, just move over. Wow. Okay. Unless you're using YouTube.

You're not using YouTube, right? Nope, I'm using Twitch. Okay. I'm twitching. Scott, I'm twitching. You're over there twitching? Sweet. Yeah.

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man, I love hearing from iCore, but man, I hate hearing about this stuff. Kevin Chu wrote in, iCore says, hey, sodium and bicarbonate, by the way, just sent iCore, one of these guys right here. Oh, very nice. Very nice.

Oh, yeah, I got to paint. That's another thing I need to do. I need to paint that Jack Nicholson thing. I showed that on stream yesterday, didn't I? No. I don't I think so. Did you? Okay. I don't remember. Well, I'll do it after. I'll do it post show.

Okay. Because let's get to Kevin's request. Sure. Hey, sodium and bicarbonate. Sorry for the late request, but November 14th was my birthday. Hopefully, you can play this on or close to it. We're only a week late. I haven't made a big deal about this, but it's been a rough couple of months.

My sister and all of her kids were killed in a car accident a few months ago. Jeez. I know, man. So, so hard. It's been hard on the family, especially my parents. I've been holding up okay and TMS is always a good place for me to escape to. If you could play Come Undone by Adrenaline mob, of course the original by Duran Duran. That would be cool.

Not only does it have the lyrics happy birthday to you in it, but Duran Duran was also a band that my sister was into back in the day. Thanks for all you do to make the world a more enjoyable place by testing the ship's phasers, signed Kevin. I had no idea, Kevin. That is horrible. He hasn't said anything. He and I've been chatting back and forth about this, you know, this 3D print and all this other. stuff and it's like oh my god dude yeah i know i talk to that dude every day i guess he just doesn't said anything and i don't blame him but that's hardcore oh my gosh really sorry man we're all giving

you one big virtual hug right now icore and uh geez so sorry to hear about all that all right let's get to it from their album omerta from uh 2012 here is adrenaline mob and their cover of duran duran's come undone sounds great we'll be back tomorrow with more come back then Mind, Immaculantialine, Immaculant Dream, made breath and skin, I've been waiting for you Signed with the old tattoo Happy birthday to you What's created for you

Can't ever keep from falling apart At the seams Can I believe you're taking my heart To pieces Oh It'll take a little town Might take a little crown To come under now

We'll try To stay blind To the hell And fear and sight Hey shall Stay wilder Than the wind need to cry

Who do you need Who do you need? Who do you love when you come and die? Who do you need? Who do you love when you come and die? Words

Playing me Deja Vu Like a radio tune I swear I've heard you Chill Is it something real Oh the magic

I'm feeling Of your fingers Can never keep From bowling open everything Can I believe You'll take it mind To be said

Lost In a snow-filled sky We'll make it Alright To come Undone Now we'll try To stay blind

To the hope And feel I'm sorry Hey shall stay wilder Than the wind and blow me here To cry Who do you need Who do you love

When you come I'm done Who do you love when you come on time? Who do you need? Who do you love? When you come on time? Can you ever keep your mind? Who do you need? Who do you love when you come on?

Come and come and come Can I believe you're taking no away? When you're coming, come over Oh when you're coming come and go When you call my day, oh, when you call my day.

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