The Morning Stream - TMS 2396: Resting trucker hat

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

Brian Bends the Knee. When One Door Closes a Door Becomes a Window. Ooooh the Uterus is done!The Sauce of the Monkey. Cysticles. Concentrated Boob Sweat. Between a Rock and a Dwayne Place. Freezing Aliens! Prove it, You CAN'T! I'm dreaming of a weird Christmas. I don't like Pun-da-treeeeeeeeee. 11 and -11 are close enough. Obviously it's aliens. Ship Before You Remove. Gamer Grandpa Bathwater. One Testicle Too Many with Amy. Therapy Thursday with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, Brian bends the knee. When one door closes, a door becomes a window. Ooh, the uterus is done. The sauce of the monkey. Cisticles. Concentrated boob sweat. Between a rock and a Dwayne place. Freezing aliens.

Prove it. You can't. I'm dreaming of a weird Christmas. I don't like pundit tree. 11 and negative 11 are close enough. Obviously it's aliens. Ship before you're. remove gamer grandpa bathwater one testicle too many with amy therapy thursday with wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream you see you see your stupid minds stupid stupid damn the morning stream

Time to put some hustle behind this muscle. Good morning and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, December 22nd, 22. We got a 2222 in the house. Just for a little while longer, though. 12.22. That's three. Wait.

Oh, I see what you're just saying. I see what you're saying. One, two, three, four. Wait, one, two, three. Basically, one, two, two, two, two, two. Yeah, that's pretty good. Two, two, two, two. I mean, it's not like a two, two, two, two, too, too, but it's pretty good.

No, no. If we only had a 22nd month, it'd be perfect. Smarch. A 22nd month with 22 days. Perfect, right? So I got to ask, it's like 16 degrees here. People in Montana are at like negative 30. Where's Colorado today?

Colorado currently right now, looking at the annoying Apple Watch, negative 12 currently negative 12 I thought 16 was bad but negatives in Colorado damn it that's cold and I decided we would go out last night at the start of this

basically we left the house as the front was moving in sorry I'm wiping my nose as I talk it's a very hygienic thing for you to do it's fine that's right exactly oh here let me use some hand sanitizer on my hands Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we went to, uh, we left the house, and it was 41 degrees last night at about 4.30. We went to this thing called Camp Christmas.

Or as I call it, a tool video set. At least that first one, actually, a couple of parts of it looked like a tool video. Or like some scene in Resident Evil 8 or something. It was like horrifying. It was horrible. Well, it's, so it's intended to be, like they bill it as the quirkiest Christmas thing you'll go to. And it absolutely is. And I took pictures of the, you know, I posted pictures of the more nightmare-inducing parts of it.

There's a, you know, there's a reindeer in a room with a disco ball and it's got those spikes on it that, you know, like you put on the sides of buildings to keep pigeons from landing oh yeah yeah uh and then there was a picture of a weird like uh smiling a boy running the uh like a candy store kid running a candy store actually a diner yeah oh it's a diner okay it's a diner he just sways back and forth with his mouth wide open like ah he's holding one of those huge suckers you used to get when your kids the big round exactly yeah deals and then uh and then a uh and then a uh an owl that is full of fire. Like, it's a, it's an owl that is made of, of, uh, steel and fire.

That reminds me of the big Vegas praying mantis outside of the container. Oh, yeah, very much so like container park praying mantis. Yeah, for sure. Probably having that vibe here. So was this all, just like a big art installation? It sounds like or? Sort of. Yeah.

It's like a, it's an outdoor thing at Belmar Park. And it's, uh, it's called Camp Christmas. and it's and those are kind of the most the weirdest parts although there's a whole room you go through that's got mannequins with weird Christmas hats like a giant coffee cake and another one that's got like a bunch of Christmas trees and that one's because the lighting in there is like all weird pink floor lighting pointing up yeah and so it's that's kind of creepy in of itself as well wow but there's other things in there like basically they've got 30 Christmas trees all staggered around the place that are pun trees pun Christmas trees so you have to look at them and try and figure out what the pun is

and there's a little QR code if you give up and you can you can then figure out but you know there's one that's got a bunch of pictures of Tom Hanks as Forrest Gump

different photos of them hanging as ornaments and that is a forest tree really I get it I get it Forest Gump tree I get it

yeah I get it that's good my first favorite was the one that had little Roger Rabbits and then little paper dolls of people like James Bond and

old cowboy dude shoot cameras. Not John Wayne, but like one of those, Roy Rogers and stuff like that. Gotcha. And that was a Roger doll tree. Oh my Lord. It was like Roger Moore and Roy Rogers and Roger Rabbit and they were all

dolls and it's a Roger Dolls. And it's a Roger doll tree that they went far for that one they went far and i like that one that one was that was fantastic that's great yeah so there 30 like 30 of them around there it's awesome so that's cool man yeah i would go this and there was like a uh i should send you the video of this like a you know thing you sit down and it sprays guilt removal on you and then there's like a guilt remover it's like it looks like a windex bottle but it says guilt remover on it and it just It just shoots, like, smoke at you. It's not shooting any sort of spray,

which would have sucked in the, at that point, 11-degree weather we were out in walking through this thing. Yeah, you don't want that. Oh, it was already 11 last night. It was already 11. It went from 41 when we left the house at 4.30. By the time we got there at about 515, 5.30, it had already dropped down to 11 degrees.

It was like that quick a drop in temperature. They were reporting this in Wyoming, I guess, it dropped as quickly as, like, seven minutes or eight minutes. Yeah. Went from the forest as to negative. You know, as much as my little sciatic would allow, we kind of sprinted through that place.

And we wouldn't have waited, obviously, if they weren't, if tomorrow or Saturday weren't the last day and we have stuff going on. But I'm like, oh, I really want to see this. Let's get tickets. Yeah, I know we're going on a day when it's supposed to drop before the big temperature drop day, which is today. Yeah, yeah. No, I guess 11's better than a negative 13, but not much.

not much better it doesn't you know it doesn't once you get down below a certain number 11 and negative 11 feel pretty dang close to each other well it's funny you say that because I have a connected story that happened to me last night oh excellent let's hear about it we uh I took my niece and nephew Kim and I did took our niece and nephew uh who've been home alone while their parents are in Mississippi until they're home now but anyway we took him out to dinner and we decided to take him to Tony burger this place we really liked that makes these amazing burgers and They're close by, and it looked like it was going to snow, so we're like, we don't want to go too far. Say, Tony Burger?

Tony Burger, it's called. Tony Burger, okay. All right. And it's very good. It's kind of a staple in this. It's the local deal. I don't think they're anywhere else. Nice.

Anyway, they got like three locations. So we went to the one near us. Great as usual. Love their stuff. We sit down. We're hanging out. We're talking. And right in the middle of all this, I hear a guy at another table go.

And I'm not making this accent up. This is the accent. All right. Okay. He goes, you hear about that temp drop in Wyoming? I have a hunch. It's aliens. And he said it in a way when I went, okay, am I meant, is he joking?

Right. You have to look over and see the expression on his face. Is he like, he's like, I hear it's aliens. Yeah, I got a hunch of aliens. And he was dead serious. And then went on to explain why he thinks it's aliens because ain't no time in history of temperature dropping eight minutes that far. There's no way this is just natural occurrence.

And just went on and on and on. And, oh, the other thing I was going to say about him is he had on a hat. Can you know I was complaining about hats are too small for me? They don't fit me very well. Once in a while, like these Under Armour ones do. And that's about all I can buy anymore. This was a guy like me with a big dumb head. But he didn't care that the hat didn't fit him.

He's wearing one of those trucker hats that is literally just sitting up there. Just resting on the tub. Well, okay. So kind of like this, right? Yeah, a bit like that. A bit like that, except that's stylish, at least, right? I think so. The AI generator felt like it was stylish.

There was at least a little panache there. This guy's was like, if he turned to the right, the hat was going to stay in the same direction. Just like, stay there. Anyway, he was sure. And he was talking to some other dude who was all hunched over in a camo jacket looking all skeevy. And they were just going on and on about how this proves aliens. There's no way this, you know, finally we have some. definitive proof because of this weather thing.

And I'm like, man, you know, take you two seconds to Google fastest temperature change in North America. And I'll bet we're not, I bet we're not even there yet. We just had such a, such an, you know, a new crop of scientists that have just totally joined the population in the last few years. It just amazes me that we had all these secret scientists who are now coming out of the woodwork. I know. Well, they've been hiding it. This guy during the day is, you know, a sanitation worker, and that's his cover. Let's not rip on sanitation workers.

No, not at all. Those guys are great. I love them. We gave him gifts this year, but, you know, that's the cover. Clearly, this guy is not a lawyer. No. You could not pass the bar. No, no, no.

But he is hiding successfully as a scientist under wraps. And last night, he let a little bit of it leak, and I overheard it. And now I understand that aliens are responsible. You know, we're smart people, Scott. if only there was a way that we could figure out to make some money and take advantage of people like this.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, like come up with a set of digital NFT cards that they could buy. Yeah, really bad ones. Never mind. I guess we already have somebody doing that, don't wait. No, that'd be great. No, that'd be great. We could say, hey,

boy, this economy, the inflation and the gas prices are so bad. whoa 100 bucks for not even one I get to choose but it's random and I don't even know how to get it once I pay for it and I could have screen grabbed it and gotten the same thing oh my gosh you can't say thanks Biden to that one can you no thanks Biden someone in the chat says sell some bath water all right let's get that going all right cool remember we talked about that girl I'd have to take a bath to do that I think she's still doing that the girl I'm sure she is yeah that bath water and then we have the underbo Boob sweat. Oh, that one fowls me out. I can't. Like, at least bathwater is mostly water. I mean, I wouldn't want it.

I don't want to pay for it. They're both at, they're both at, uh, you see, this is where the 11 degrees and negative 11 degrees, uh, we're already there comes back into play. Here's the, there's a, that's where we're at. The bath water and the under boob sweat are basically the 11 and the negative 11 degrees where I can't tell the difference. The value is, or the value of the tub water would be, is, is, is, you're not, you're It has the boob sweat in it, it's just now, it's watered down, right?

Sure. So if you're getting concentrated straight from the source boob sweat, blah. Yeah. I mean, what are you doing with any of this? I don't know why, exactly. Yeah, it's like whoever, whoever buys one is not going to care. Well, it's watered down. Yeah, it's not as good.

I wish she was more concentrated. It's only eight bucks. ounce i want to pay 25 for the real stuff i don't know why that accent is on that guy too listen when we're in Vegas we'll uh well you and i will get into the um the plaza hot tub together all right i'm ready and uh then when we're done we'll bottle up all that water and we'll sell it uh for for tms co host like host water right yeah yeah i like i like that and we'll just even like a desani bottle full or something you know nothing Yeah, exactly. We can actually sell them right there at the event.

Probably. Claire will be there. She'll buy it. I'll take a gin in hot tub water, please. More gin, though, than normal. Put as much in there you can put. Oh, this is watered down. It's not the same. I was really hoping for some... Never mind. Never mind. Oh, I see what you mean. I see where you're going. Hey, quick note, this is a technical note.

I hope this helps a few people because there's been slight confusion, nothing too crazy. But if you're using some kind of ancient pod catcher software, something real old and not supported anymore, just be aware that the feeds might be a little wonky for you because I changed hosts. And while anybody using anything modern will have no problem, it'll all be automatic. Everything's being redirected properly through the internet, through proper protocols and all that. But the moving of RSS feeds can be a little fruity sometimes, and especially, over the first 24 hours or so. So if you've had issues and you're like,

I don't see the show or why is it not on the feed? It'll be there. Just give it a sec. Some of these caches have to clear. I've tested everything and it's all working, I think. This was a major stressful thing for me over the last couple of weeks trying to get this done. Now that it's all done, TMS and everything else should be flowing to whoever gets it.

We're speaking audio here. So, you know, if you're getting, if you're already doing video stuff, none of that's changed but but the the audio version of the show which is 99% of you should be showing up in your in your players like if you're using overcast or a freaking pocket cast downcast any of those podcast apps uh whatever android thing you may be using google podcast's been a little weird but it's always weird the thing is kind of garbage i wish google would update it it's just not good but like spotify apple podcast all that stuff is all tested here and worked so if you have any problems just poke

me and let me know. I'm happy to dig into it and see if there's something weird. Like somebody yesterday said, hey, the mega feed where I put everything on, like every show gets put on the mega feed. Some people listen that way. And the guy's like, hey, that didn't show up on the mega feed. And I went, oh yeah, the mega feed. I totally forgot about the mega feed. So I fixed the mega feed yesterday and it is also working now. So as far as I know, I've covered all my dumb bases and everything's good. Okay? I don't have a team of 50 people working on this. I got me. No. Got you.

I got me. You got me, babe. Anyway, as Cher once said, you've got me. All right, there's that. Hey, there's some birthdays. Who's having birthdays? Chloe, the wife of Bernanate, celebrating her birthday. Today is the day that she was born, is the way that he phrased it.

And she lets him hang out in here in chat all the time. So happy birthday to Chloe, wife of Bernanate. Nice. Chad says, I thought frog pants was a big conglomerate. I wish. I'm too much of a control freak. I don't ever let people do anything. That works.

You know what? That works both to your success and, now I don't want to say failure, but your success and your stress level. Oh, yeah, 100%. Because I've said, hey, let me take this on for you. Can I take this on for you? And it's a struggle sometimes to say to pull stuff away. No, you're absolutely right.

And it's weird because part of it is, um i think i had some PTSD from like partnerships this this not this isn't to say that you're a problem not at all of course of course not not even remotely but like like my dad had partnerships that completely screwed up everything made him have to go bankrupt at one point um i worked for a guy who owes me eighty nine thousand dollars still does i'm never going to see that money like i just I always feel like if I can do if I can pull off a lot of this myself

then I don't have to think about or worry about any of those issues but Brian's absolutely right it's like stress ball McGee over here sometimes and yeah I get it like I basically had to say

dude I'm taking over TMS Vegas I'm doing all the scheduling and all that stuff and I'm really glad to do that because it's great I love what you do with it but yeah

thank you yeah was it planned talking about this. And we'll just talk about for a second, but just to get the idea, get that thing rolling in your head for ideas. Obviously, too late for 2023, but a thing to think about for 2024, HyperX Sports Arena, the new catering manager, events planner manager. I think that's who she is, she's an events planning manager, emailed me yesterday and said, hey, we would love to have you back. Really? Let us know what, let us know what you'd like to do here. But how cool would it be? Listen, I love the plaza and I love Bernadette and all the stuff that they've done for us at the plaza. But if we could do a stay at the Luxor, nobody has to drive anywhere in Uber, blah, blah, blah, it's all there in one place, restaurants, bars, all that stuff. We do one TMS Vegas there. We do some big thing at the hyperexports arena that's not just a video game tournament, but also a live TMS.

It sounds like they'd be willing to let us do something weird, you know? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'd be into that. Yeah, hell yeah. I was almost going to propose, hey, can we do a Marvel Snap tournament there on the big screen? Could we? Why not?

Why not? I mean, you could. I don't know why you couldn't. I mean, by then, the PC version will be out. No, no kidding. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, so two short notice for us to do anything for 2023 plus, you know, we've got the sand dollar right there at the plaza. I can't wait to hang out there with everybody, do our live show there. Oh, yeah.

We're good for this year. But, yeah, I love that idea, especially if there was. willing to work with us and do something cool and it isn't just pay us five grand and rent it that's all right exactly yeah i'm not saying they would but maybe they know i think that is what it would be i think it would be probably something along those lines i'll say yeah that's that's possible but if we work everything around it it might work right might work fine yeah exactly exactly if like you know the prices and stuff like that we can figure it out anyway just i i agree and also the the the thought train the idea train rolling for us that's right all aboard everybody all aboard that's right

exactly next week a little bit and also obviously after the first of the year we'll be locking down swag and ticket stuff for this year so watch for that coming soon uh we'll have more more soon all right yeah it's gonna be fun all right and claire will be there all right let's get amy in we got to get a man yeah apparently so i'm uh let's see here she i guess chuck's having some surgery this morning yeah yeah what is it do you know i guess are we not meant to know i don't we don't know okay all right it's okay that we don't know i just worried because i didn't know it was happening and she says hey uh if i don't answer right away just text me and let me know and i'll step up she she asked me to just ping her in chat or ping her and text uh oh that's good we were getting ready to pull her

and so i did that while we were just wrapping up okay awesome uh hopefully he's good uh whatever's going on i didn't know there we'll see if she wants to say any more than that A little back-to-back surgery going on here at the Red Fraggle House. Let's see. No answer yet. At Fragle Rock. Fragle Rock, baby. Yeah.

Let's see. No answer. Oh, there she is. Hi. Is this you? Hi. It's me. Oh, good.

Is this you? Is this you? I guess that's a weird way to do that. It's Amy who stepped out into the hallway of some sort of medical establishment. Hi, Amy. Welcome back to the show. Hi. I am doing well.

How are you guys doing? Good. Good. How's Chuck? He's good? All good? Yeah. He's fine.

He's sitting back there in the prep area still. And so I came like just scooting out. And I thought, oh, okay, cool. There's a, in the waiting area, there's like a door to go outside right there. And I thought, oh, this is cool. I'll just pop right out there. And then I'm standing in front of the door and I'm waiting for it to slide. And it doesn't work.

Uh-oh. And then the receptionist behind me says, yeah, it doesn't. work it's basically a big window and I was like okay um just invisible to this thing invisible to it's invisible to it's invisible

so so he's uh so there's a weird weird to do back to back surgeries like this like you're just barely over your thing and now he's got to go right in there hopefully it's nothing too serious yeah it is a little weird it was like you know because I've kind of deferred

to him on doing a bunch of stuff like you know taking the dog out and things like that and then now all of a sudden that's going to be my job he's going to defer to me so it's a little bit it's a little bit wonky but yeah you guys really who scheduled there's first he did oh oh yes so mine was going originally going to happen like probably the first of next year like maybe February or so um but then they had a cancellation and they said hey we can do it on December 5th and I said yes. Gotcha. Okay.

Somebody's, somebody's, uh, the uterus had to wait a little longer. That's all. Exactly. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't ripe or something. No, yeah, no, you got to, you can't pick them before they're ready. Absolutely.

Not fully baked. Yeah. Stick a tooth picking. If it doesn't come out clean, then it's got to go back in. Yeah, you use one of those turkey, turkey popper things you stick in there. And it's, uh, it'll tell you. Yeah. You know that exactly.

Just like when your belly button pops out. Yeah. Yeah. That's when you know. Exactly. Well, it's good to have you here. We're going to do a read this with Amy anyway. We were supposed to open some gifts Amy sent,

but mine is still under a giant pile of unsorted mail at my P.O. box, and I don't know what's going on over there. I'm going over there today to see what's going on. Worst P.O. Box ever, if you asked me. I agree. I don't know if they just got overwhelmed. They're a little mom-and-pop kind of run franchise, and I don't know if they just got overwhelmed this year.

I don't know what's going on. That's why I got to go over there and see what's up because they definitely got the package. It's just they don't have it to hand to me, and I don't know why that is. So we figured we'd do this today anyway. And then next week, Monday, if it's here, we'll pull Amy in for a quick gift exchange opening deal. Exactly. Yeah. Get a bonus little bit of me.

Yeah, a bit of bonus you. Yeah, bonus you. Excellent. Well, let's get to the read this for the week. You sent me a clip here. Do you want to set this up before I play it? Sure. So this is a very timely, seasonal, classic of a thing.

And that most people, I don't think, have seen or read. But it's still amazingly charming and timely. So that's what I'll say about it. Okay. Well, here is the clip. Wings, Mr. Santee Claus. I need new wings. Not fancy wings.

Just plain Jane, low rent, barely bent. The homegrown bare bone off the shelf, two-part Kmart, no frills, flappers. They would be an improvement over my own. As your record should show, I am a bird, specifically a penguin, an embarrassing accident of birth, for which I do not blame my mother. I prefer to blame Pengress Wow

I don't know what this is It's Fight Club, right? I think it's Spike Club. The Penguins was the giveaway right there. So this is, the audio clip was actually taken from the animated TV special that they did for the book by Berkeley, who if that name sounds familiar it's uh you know bloom county sure yeah is that opus that was

opus the penguin really okay and the the name of it is a wish for wings that work and oh wow okay this is old yeah this is yes yeah it is yeah it's very old and in fact i i apologize everyone a little bit because it's truly out of print um but you can still get it you know you if you know the right source you can get anything today exactly and it's it is lovely and charming it's fun to it's a fun thing to consume with your kids and the audio there like i said is from the animated special and i had no idea there was an animated i didn't either never heard of that oh yeah i had never heard of it either and chuck has the DVD and we watch it every year and it's robin williams is in it oh that's cool it's really

Tell me he does Bill the Cat. No, like Bill the Cat actually doesn't really speak, although I think Frank Welker probably does some voice for him. All that all the Cat has to say is act, ah, ah. Yeah, he does do some hacking up of things, but yeah. Yeah, so, but yeah, he's like a little small part in there. And, you know, you can easily hear that it's Robin Williams when you, when it gets. to that point. But yeah, it's bonkers. I was like, I've never heard to this. And I love it. I absolutely love it. And I mean, if you Google it, you can find, I mean, people have put it up on YouTube and not gotten a strike for it. So you can, you can literally go watch it on YouTube. It's adorable and charming and fun and everything you want in Bloom County. And yeah, so that's my, my little recommendation for right here right before Christmas.

Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. I love it. So I probably can find that on YouTube and at least the animated thing, I'm sure, is on there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And there are, you know, if you go, if you go to like Amazon or probably Barnes & Noble or some other bookseller, you can probably find used copies of the book as well.

And, you know, I mean, like I say, it's everything you want from a Berkeley breathed property, you know. Yeah. I just noticed IICOR has the link. So I've pinned it to the chat for those in Twitch. And you can grab that for the next 10 minutes or so. It'll just be up there. Cool. Start to use this cool new pin feature. Well, that's awesome. And I didn't even know it existed. Brian, I don't know why I'd never heard of this. I feel like it's, I mean, how old is this? Let's see, 91? Yeah. I mean, it's old. It's like, it's in, you know, I mean, obviously it was when. Robin Williams was still with us. Yeah. And we don't even have the Blu-ray of it. We have the DVD, so we have to, it has, you know, when we watch it, it looks crappy, but we still love it. I wonder if it's like, I don't know what this reminds me of, kind of like that all of the other

reindeer. Oh, yeah. That's funny because that just came up in trivia the other night. Oh, did it? That's a great little movie. We had to, is it, we came up like, what, what Christmas film features, um, you know, Drew Barrymore, doing the voice of the title of character, and one of the people, the Jeopardy winner in our group, the Jeopardy and, who wants to be a millionaire contestant in our group said, I think that's all of the other reindeer. Oh, she said, as a Jack Russell Terrier, the clue or the question was.

Oh, right. She said, oh, I think that's all of the other reindeer. And I said, no, that's, that's, that's, this is about a reindeer. Yeah, yeah. Come on. That's true. They were right. Exactly what it was.

And fortunately, she, she corrected me and said. I know I'm pretty sure this is what it is. Oh, good. I'm glad she prevailed. It's a very cool movie, and it reminds me of this in the sense that it's so obscure now. Hardly anybody's heard of it. I didn't know about it either. Oh, you should see it.

I hadn't heard of it. Wonderful thing. But it's hard to find. We did a little marathon of Christmas that you watching last night, and I finally got around to watching Klaus. Oh, I don't need to see that. Yeah, that's great. That thing's on perpetual replay at my, uh, at Vans house. They just watch it all the time.

they love it. Yeah, that's really good. See, I can't even find all of the other reindeer on even just watch. It's like it doesn't exist. I know it does. It's on IAMDB, of course. Yeah. But it's like this in that nobody can get it. Sure enough. Not even a mention of it. Huh. Yeah. Which is why I love this kind of stuff. It's kind of weird. Like I tried, because I tried to see, I thought Chuck said we had a copy of the book. But unfortunately, no, we have like, we have the last baseloak, but we don't have wish for wings that work. And so then I went on Amazon to see, I was like, okay, maybe I can get like a PDF copy of it or something so that I at least, you know, have the book to be talking about it. Nope. Can't find it. But I mean, like I say, you can order it used, but it would be here sometime next

month. And I wanted to talk about it for Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. I forgot to mention that's a Matt Graining joint All of the Other Reindeer He produced it I think wrote it Let's see He uh Really

Are is uh Let's see I guess he just Executive produced it But you know That's that's cool And it's got a bunch of people from From The Simpsons on it

Like Dan Casson Lynette is in it Joe Joey pants is in it Brian He's great I love Joey pants Peter McIkel Ed Asner Tim Meadows Jay Moore

Michael Stipe Michael Stipe Michael Stipe Yeah It's random David Herman Dietrich Bader It's awesome

Get I hate that I'm not trying to Hijack your thing I promise But it just made me Remind me how awesome All of the other Ranger is It's really good

No no no that's great That's why I love this segment Man I mean hi I'm familiar with y'all I listen to film sack Y'all talk about Like this I think this is also part of

Not because you've done so many movies Although that's part of it But also because you guys talk about like 16 movies in one episode because you're going off on tangents. And it's great. Yeah. That's what makes all that's, that's, you know, that's the sauce. People like the, what is it?

The spice of the soup. The sauce of the monkey or the, I don't know. I don't know what to call it. I didn't know this. I guess this, all of the other render is based on a book. So I didn't know that. But anyway, it's a, it's rad. And also it's all entirely on YouTube.

Icor found it. Based on the book, but also like sponsored by Target or somebody Coles or something like that. Oh, really? Yeah, I want to say there was like a some sort of retail connection with all of the other reindeer. Oh, I bet the year it came out. There was tons of merch. I think so, yeah. Very strange art style, too.

I love it. I love that. That's cool. Totally worth saying if you get a minute. And also it sounds like this is too. You know what? We should put both those links, those YouTube links. in um oh quick tm s yeah just like the one for uh hers and then this olive one

yes i will do that right now because it's yeah it's it is a read read this segment i forgot to do that so yeah we'll just have the last couple thursdays so uh yeah i keep hearing that uh animated scrooge that's the new one on netflix the netflix original one that just came out in December. Enicio del Toro, or Guillermo del Toros. Oh, man, is he doing everything now? I'd love that. That would be great.

Yeah. Christmas Carol. Luke Evans is Ebeney is Scroo. This is my story of Christmas Carol. It is a three ghosts come and kill Scrooge and dismember him and use his buddy parts for tinsel. That's right. Oh, too much hassle. You want to cold?

Too much hassle. Listen to this. Olivia Coleman plays the ghost of Christmas past. Oh, really? Yeah, okay, see. I might have to watch that. She can do no wrong. That's true.

Well, all right, this is great. Everybody go check that stuff out. In the meantime, following you wherever you find her, Red Fraggle 3. And also, I hope Chuck gets through whatever this is quickly and everything's okay. I think he will. It's like I say, it's just a thing that's been a nuisance for him for a while. And particularly as somebody who rides a bike. I was going to say, no.

Nobody should have to live their whole life with three testicles. I'm telling you, three is enough. So Chuck finally deciding to remove that third middle one, not a problem. He should do it. Okay. So now you said the thing. So now I have to tell you, it's not he doesn't have a third testicle, but what is being removed is he has a large cyst on his right testicle. Oh, well, then I was close.

I was right in the zone there. you were pretty close there yeah yeah well no that's good i did get permission from him to say that by the way i asked him this morning i was like how much or little do you want me to share on the show and he's like uh whatever's funny and i said okay cool yeah that's our rule around here whatever's funny yeah yeah yeah never never go out of style as far as a comedy well i hope i yeah as a cyclist you can imagine that oh you have a large cyst right there trying to ride your bike for like 50 miles not fun no no not fun at all definitely not i'm trying to think of any i already have to swing those over my shoulder just to ride a bike alone

like a continental soldier is that what you do that's exactly right fantastic that's what i was thinking uh well tell him tell him quick recovery i hope it goes easy and well that he's not i don't want him to be awake during it because it'd be like you know burning and all that you don't want that oh no no no he's he's gonna be under general that's why i'm hanging out here all right that's good um but he'll he'll do fine and uh merry christmas to him and you and we will see you hopefully on monday with a package opening cool cool all right god let's hope i know right stupid freaking i'm opening mine either way basically i should have done what i should have done is just given her my home address because she doesn't need to go through there it's almost

like you don't trust her or something i know like i would have i absolutely done that but i just haven't had this problem before and i have to think this is some christmas thing i don't know because that place is on fire right now apparently it's just oh i'm sure i'm sure it's just that they're you know mom and pa place oh what are we doing we got all these boxes here what are we going to just all of a sudden i'm don't oh no andy andy andy what am i doing with all these boxes jack trippers got four girls in there i just know it i'm going to go down the wrinkle beagle i'm going to catch them this time is that the name of the place the regal beagle How's the regal beagle?

Oh my gosh, I love that. All right, it's time for the news. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville. Yes, we are doing the Coverville countdown, counting down, the 40 greatest covers of 2022, culled together from over 350, over 360 different cover songs that came out this year. year that I have in my list, let alone the stuff that I don't have in my list. But guess what?

This takes a little bit longer than I expected when I'm not able to sit in front of my computer for long periods of time because of the sciaticus. So, episode one won't be today, but it will be tomorrow or Saturday, which is good because I think Scott's going to have plenty of content for you to watch today between core and play retro yeah we got a lot tonight play retro at 230

core at 5 there's plenty of content tonight trust me yeah it would have people would have been struggling to like oh do I watch do I listen to the cover of the countdown do I listen to play retro so now they don't have to worry about that and they get extra code

code they get extra content tomorrow you want the extra code I give you an extra code you need it I give you code It's like combining core and coverville and something. You want the code? I give you code. You want the code? Chuck's chode, all those things together.

Choward, right, exactly. Yeah, that's great. I always look forward to the countdown. So watch for that, everybody. A couple quick stories here. And without a disturbed song this year, I don't know what's going to be in the top five. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah, there is no disturbed song this year.

No disturbed cover. They put out an entire, they put out an album this year. Didn't put a cover on it. I haven't seen the first one a long time. no cover on it. Yeah. I have a renewed respect for the singer. He's like,

he does a TikTok channel where he answers emails. Seems like a really nice guy. Really? That's cool. Like a legit dude who's just like talking to fans. I'm going to answer another email. Ha! ha! Or whatever, he'll say.

Right, exactly. Here is your news story to start with. Edie Falco, famous for being Tony Sopranos wife. Camela. Camela. Gabba ghoul and all that. She was also a nurse Jackie and a million other things, and she's always a favorite people of her

and give her Emmys, shower her with Emmys every time she does anything. Well, anyway, she's in Avatar 2 and the way of the water, yeah. And apparently she shot Avatar 2 so long ago, her parts in it. That she thought it already got released and flopped. Well, I didn't see anything about it. it the newspaper, so it must have flopped. Yeah, she just didn't read a thing about it, but it turns out it came out just now and is doing really well, Edy.

But this is a nice little surprise. It says one of the more delightful surprises in Avatar of the Way of the Water is that when Edie Falco pops up as General Francis Ardmore, a new military commander on Pandora. Ardmore's... Thanks, Variety. Now that's not one of the more delightful surprises for anybody else. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Well, the variety, just spoil it. Jerks. Exactly. I didn't realize as I was reading it. It says she makes, let's see, she's on a mission to make Pandora hospitable for the human race as Earth is dying and the human population will soon need

a permanent home. Falco is not prominently featured in any marketing material so you'd be forgiven for not knowing that the four-time Emmy winner was playing a crucial role in the Avatar franchise. She herself didn't even know when the release plans were. During a release or an interview with ABC's The View,

it's with all those ladies on the view. Woppy and Joy Behar and then the revolving door of the two other chairs. Yeah, those other chairs that are always somebody new. But it's just full of ladies, that place. Falco revealed she shot her

scenes in Avatar the Way of the Water over four years ago. So much time went by between that and its release that she simply assumed the movie opened in theaters already and didn't perform very well. Which is probably what a lot of actors do. Once they're done, they're done. It's like move on. Exactly. They're not going to sit around

waiting for releases and stuff like that. Maybe premieres, but if you're a smaller part, maybe you don't. If you're a smaller part, probably not, right? Like, you know, I mean, I'm sure Bill Murray in, what is he? He's in, uh, quantum media. Oh, yeah. He's in the trailer for that. I'm sure it's like, come in, do his stuff, and then just get out.

Yeah, and he probably did that a year or two ago. Yeah, I doubt he's paying any attention, but who knows? Oh, God, we're just a little over a month away from that. I know. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. So little time for you and finally watch Ant Man on the Wasp. I'm going to carve out 90 minutes during between, well, two hours, whatever it is, between now and then.

I'm going to, I'm going to be ready, Brian. Ready. Okay. If we have to, we could watch it as a couch party. I'm just saying. Maybe we should. I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying maybe we should.

You know what else we should do? Well, okay, so I guess Top Gun hits today, the Top Gun Maverick deal. Yeah. I need to finally see if that was all the hype was real. Because people lost their minds about that movie last year. And it's the second, or no, did it, did it beat Avengers Endgame finally? Oh, I don't know, did it? I think it might be the highest grossing.

If not, it's the second highest grossing film of all time. Oh, wow. And people loved it. Like raving about that damn thing. You know, I can tell you, it's, it's, it's the force awakens to a new hope. okay interesting in that it's just like

hey we're going to do a lot of that template again pretty much okay so but but yeah hmm

trying to think how to justify that yeah I don't know if I can I don't know I'm just now I'm just overly curious

because everybody was losing their minds like right now here's the top list let me just make sure I have this right yeah yeah

uh oh wait That's not correct. Okay, here it is. Avatar. Yeah, I was going to say. Avatar 2.847 billion for Avatar 2009. 2.798 billion for endgame.

So it's still there. Yep. Titanic's still there at 2.202. So where is this new one? Oh, they don't have it on this list. Hold on. Oh, new one is number 11. I can tell you. I've got the full top 20.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. There it is. Number 11. Yep. Number 11. 1.4 million. Yeah.

It's, it's all right. It's all right. It's a lot of hype. I mean, that's a big position for any movie to be in, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know. I wouldn't even call it one of my 10 favorite movies I saw this year. Wow.

It was all right. But it was. But not even in your top 10. Not even my top 10. Not even hot dudes playing volleyball. their shirts off. I didn't do it for you. Oh, this time it's soccer. Oh. Scott, after the template, they had to change that fit of the template for, you know, for this movie.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. Well, you never know what's going to happen. When you first see Goose's, uh, it's official coverbill doesn't like fun. No, shut up. Shut up, Wes. Wait, so, because you got, uh, you got Goose Jr., right, with the mustache in here. Yeah. And when you get, when it, his, introduction is like oh god really really this is how you

this is how we get introduced to Goose's son really uh with Magus everything everywhere all at once would probably be in it would be in my top 10 maybe like uh 8 7 or 8 probably

RR would be in there maybe mid middle of the top 10 uh what's your number one right now see I don't know I'd have to really give it some thought uh It's hard for me too I can't think of one right All I can think about is Barbarian

Because I loved it so much But oh Barbaran was really good Yeah glass onion comes out tomorrow Can't wait to see that Yeah You get the glass onion I have a feeling that I'm gonna really like Del Toro's Pinocchio

But I gotta wait for Carter to get home I promised her Oh sweet Well we tried to watch it remotely But her internet sucked And so we couldn't do it So yeah I can tell you That Black Adam which I finished last night

is nowhere in my top 10, 20, 30, or 40, or 50 or 60 or anywhere. Damn, that high. Oh, God. Pretty bad, yeah, eh? Yeah, and not because of the rock. The rock was what made that enjoyable. You can smell what he's cooking in that. You can, you can smell it, see it, taste it.

And you're kind of okay with what you're smelling and tasting. It's okay. I'm okay with what I'm smelling, and I'm kind of like, oh, you know, you know, I guess it would have been nice to have a sequel, you know, a... Well, he claims James Gunn promised him that we're not done with Black Adam, so whatever that means. Okay, well, we might not be done with Black Adam, but I think we're done with the Rock. Yeah. I think it's the same, we're not done with Superman, but we're done with Henry Carroll.

Well, he can, yeah, that's true. But he claims that he was told by James Gunn that he promised he, meaning the Rock, would be back. Sure. But they didn't know when, so... So here's the question. because the Suicide Squad and a peacemaker, the spin-off show, were James Gun Deals. They were James Gun deals. Are they going to be part of this reboot that we get for the DCU?

I would guess, if I had to guess, they're going to be like Iron Man in that that was the first stab at the new the new idea and then they'll just keep them around. It will be part of the... I mean, I don't have confirmation on that. I'm guessing here because they were both very successful, both critically

and audience-wise, I have a feeling they'd keep that. I'd be surprised. I'll put it that way. If they didn't, if they just said, ah, that's all done, I would be shocked by that. And I'm also not 100% sure that they'll, they're going to redo or toss Shazam, because I think Shazam

work too. It was MCU as well. I think so. I think so, too it's you know uh i think suicide the suicide squad is is probably my favorite of the dc i love that movie shazam is that was great shazam is up there i love the 2021 batman i really enjoyed that oh yeah yeah is that this year no last year i don't know i don't know because it's so it's so separate from everything i know we do get a freaking bruce wayne in the the alley with the pearls dropping and all that stuff but yeah yeah i really liked it so i i hope that i hope that they're not done with that yet but we'll see yeah i hope so too by the way i would put uh prey and

nope somewhere in my top certainly my top 20 maybe not top 10 but pray pray pray maybe would make it in my top 10 i thought that was really good oh pray's awesome yeah um for me i was like four love and thunder still haven't seen it uh that didn't do that well did it it's okay Right. It was okay. Yeah. Again, I think, I think Wakanda Forever would be higher for me than, uh, than Thor, Love and Thunder. Yeah.

Dr. Strange. The movie I'm blown away by, I'm not surprised that things like, you know, Glass and you're getting really good reviews. Um, just new living movie. It's Oscar era time, right? So you expect big movies that are really well made. Yeah, exactly. But what I'm surprised by, what came out of left field for me is this Puss and Boots sequel. oh yeah is currently at 96% of rotten tomatoes 95% audience score and everything i read is just like a glowing

can't believe how great this is thing i'm like are you kidding a shrek spin-off sequel exactly yes how is this even possible but apparently it's like rad so yeah kind of want to see it now yeah got your antonio band deris your salma hyac you're olivia coleman there she is again there she is again harvey gillian from what we do in the shadows and then other people I don't know. She's got a good agent that Olivia Coleman. Yep. She's in her stove fortune.

Just helps pay for it all, you know, all those Coleman stoves that they sell. All right, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, my sister Wendy will join us. And we're going to tackle an email from a listener that is an interesting one. And we'll get to all that in a minute. But before we do, a song break

with Brian Ibit. Right on. Yeah, we got to listen to a song by Jake Thistle. Thistle, as in this will really entertain you. Ah, nice. I like it. Yeah.

He, uh, let's see, where is this? This is, he's an instrumentalist, uh, but he's got mesmerizing, as they put here, mesmerizing stage presence, a buttery rasp, insightful lyrics, and superb

instrumentation. Jake Thistle is poised to become one of next year's rising stars. So those of you, you who say, Hey, Brian, you don't play enough like country and, you know,

my feelings on country. I'm not a big fan of new country music. I kind of don't like it with the exception

of folks like Sturgle Simpson and bluegrass and stuff like that. This I like. This I like a lot. This is Jake Thistle. Brand new single

is called Ghosted Road. Enjoy it. Here's Jake Thistle. I'm I'm staring down the barrel of this town And I try But I can't see the end of the road that leads out And I remember how you cried

when you saw me right away. You know, I would have hung around if you just told me to stay. Oh, well, I'm just a ghosted row. We're begging you to change the traffic light. So, so. I can just move and move on back to you

if it's all right because your tears, man, nothing takes to what your silence said. What if I never wanted to leave? I just wanted to see what you'd think if I did. Yeah, well, I

passed time, counting headlights down these roads. And after all this time, excluding mine, I'm still at zero. I want to crawl back to you, but I'm afraid you won't like what's left. You've seen all my good time, but you could have the right. Red, oh, I'm just a ghosty road, we're begging you to change the traffic light. So, so I can just move on, then move on back to you if it's all right. Because your tears meant nothing

That's to what your silence said What if I never want to leave I just want to see what you'd think if I did I'd just want to see what you'd think if I'd do I feel my heartbeat sinking with the blinking of the traffic light I'm standing I'm surrounded by the glow or the alternating of the red and yellow color. There's still so much ground between hair and there that. I'm going to have to cover

I'm just a ghosted road begging you to change the traffic light So I can just move on Then move on back to you if it's all right Because your tears meant Up dates to what your silence says And I'd never wanted to leave.

I just wanted to see what you'd think if I did. With me where and wear and wuzzle? Lay some skin on me, dudes. Stop scrolling if you hate taking medications. and we're back tell me who that was again that was jake thistle scott a brand new single that he released called ghosted road uh check it out today nice ghosted road something familiar about that name i don't know why god jake ghosted road very nice it's actually a cool name i like that a lot jake thistle yeah or the subtitle ghosted road yeah i have to show the mad back sign even though it was it was exactly It was a loose reference.

It was a very loose. I did, I did refer to it, so. Totally fine. It's usually me, so it's nice, actually, to have somebody else do it once in. Sure. Hi, this is Scott, budding in and post show to add a warning here for listeners to know that the discussion with Wendy today is all about suicide and suicide prevention. And also how to better help people who may be or may not be suicidal. So trigger warning, that's what you're about to get.

And it was a very, very good conversation and discussion. but we wanted to make sure to put this warning here enjoy uh all right let's get this thing going right here everyone knows it's my sister windy a professional therapist who comes on the show every thursday and helps you with your problems and does it out of the goodness of her heart hello windy hey hey how's it going hello hey uh wanted to give you a follow-up you know the the the Ukrainian refugee people we were doing the whole thing for him uh went over there talked to him, had a good time, met the, they had some kids, one of them super into video games. So we had a big, long chat and he had this amazing accent.

I could listen to that kid talk all day. And anyway, they were really grateful and really nice. They wanted me to pass it on to everybody who helped, which you're one of them. So thanks for that. It went great. And yeah, it was good. The Ukrainians, man, they're cool. I was telling Brian, the one almost wore a track suit.

It was more like a sweatsuit. But it was almost a track suit. And the stereotype was real, man. great love it love it it was amazing anyway uh it's good to have you back as we hurdle towards christmas we thought we'd uh throw an email at you are you ready for this thing yeah that's really like heartwarming and lovely it truly is but the true spirit of christmas uh i don't know it just it struck me as something that would be not only interesting to talk about but i i wonder how many times we we all see something like this and don't know it you know or pass by and not

not know, but anyway, I'll get to it so that makes sense to people. This is for somebody we're going to call random guys. Hello, Scott, Brian, and Wendy. I have a question for Wendy. How can someone tell if a stranger is suicidal? The reason I ask is that the other night I could have prevented one, but didn't know I could have prevented it at the time. It was 11 p.m. or about, and I was getting ready for bed.

I hear a crash of some kind, a flash of lights through my blinds, and the power goes out. I open my front door to investigate, and there is a large pickup that drove up to the guidelines of the pole uh that has a street light the power comes back on and i see uh or sorry and the guy is out of his truck looking at what he did i call out to him but he doesn't answer i put on my shoes and i walk out he has now gotten back into the truck and is spinning his tires trying to back out all he is doing is starting to splinter the pole as i walk up another guy walks up and we go and talk to him i look under the truck while the other guy talks to what is clearly a drunk kid in his early 20s he gets back into the truck and starts spinning his tires again

The door is open, and I tell him to stop. He is going to pull the pole out, and it's going to knock out our power. He is sorry and says how he messed up. Let's see. We tell him, yes, it is a mistake, but it's okay. You'll get through it. And he said he was just somewhere he shouldn't have been. We say we have all been there.

Just get out of the truck. He gets out, gets back in several times. By the time another guy comes up and says the police are on the way. At this point, we start trying to keep the guy from leaving the scene and not hurting himself or others. He is very apologetic and says he really screwed up and it's not recoverable. He gets back into the truck, closes the door, and starts to try to back up again. I open the door and he says to please just move away. I ask him to just turn off the truck.

He does and then turns it back on. I try to reach for the keys, but it's too far for me without climbing in. Before he can put it in gear, I take his arm and pull him out of the truck. he is mostly out before he grabs hold and starts resisting. The original guy that walked up with us puts him in a chokehold and we carefully lay him down on the road and talk to him after releasing him. The third guy takes the keys. After a bit, he gets up and moves away from us down the street. That is just a loop that will come back to us.

We figure he can't go anywhere. It backs up to some woods with a creek. It's been raining and that area is a swamp right now. we will just come back or he will just come back to us what we don't know is that he lives on the far side the police come tell our we tell our tail we see the guy at the end of the street walking to the park and point him out to the police that go after him and he runs he says this is how it ended he stopped by his condo when we walked away or hit yeah his condo when we walked away his girlfriend who lives there told police he grabbed his gun and left then the police chased him he fired a shot

huge manhunt ensues sirens helicopter police with rifles and chambered, he says, it is now a shit show. It's very late now, and the police take our statements and tell us the kid shot himself in the head and died. We knew the kid was scared and tried to calm him down. He was very apologetic and polite. In hindsight, we wish we would have detained him, but didn't know he was so scared that shooting himself was his only way out or best way out. We all felt like shit. We could have stopped that kid from doing that.

Just a waste. He seemed like a decent kid who was driving drunk. how do you know thanks says random guy so that's a gnarly experience um and you know it's easy just to say well how would you guys know of course you wouldn't know it's not your fault and it isn't their fault i mean they right they tried to do what they could do but what do you say to someone like this who's because it'll haunt them a bit you know probably is now and will for the foreseeable future they will think of it and if if you know experience is anything to be looked at.

Whenever you see something kind of harsh or shocking, I always think of that guy, that dead body they pulled out of the river when we were kids and me seeing that when the flooding was happening, I still think about that when I see a river. Every time I see a river, my brain goes,

dead naked guy getting pulled out of the river. And it's always a negative experience, as it should be. I don't think it should ever be a positive one. It's always negative. It's weird, right? It's very strange. I can't figure out why.

But anyway, so I guess everybody's probably got some version of that that they can relate to here. What would you tell him if he was in your special chair? Well, one would be to, well, let's sign out what I would tell this person, and then we'll go into sort of suicide prevention and understanding certain factors about that. But just sort of the overarching thing is to process this with other people. right um and you know you've got to tell the story and you've you know get support right so the hard thing about sometimes processing these difficult things is everyone might be tempted to say the same exact thing to you which is oh it's not your fault right rather than letting you get through saying the the course of of grieving or the shock right like all of this is just you're just

like ready to go to bed and then suddenly this whole evening and folds and you know that's a lot and so just to be able to get it all out i think is really important so we're helping them do that a little bit here but just that idea of finding some safe spaces to process this and it sounds like there were other people there maybe that live nearby that you might see again or something maybe there's some connecting to them because you all went through this thing together too right there's connection to that um so being very very like very gentle with yourself in this sense of like when something traumatic happens in any degree of trauma you know a lot of things snap into place which tend to be how we were trained or taught

or culturally molded into handling certain things and then we have our own personalities that get involved and then we have our own you know kind of all that stuff so it may be like you know someone just goes home and goes to sleep and that's that for them And then other people are needing to talk through it. You know, just kind of honor whatever you need. And then also recognize if your tendency is to shut that all in, that's probably a cultural norm or a family trait of like we don't talk about hard things or something.

But really, processing is going to be hugely beneficial to move past trauma. So Scott, actually, let me ask this question. When you saw a dead body get pulled out of a river, did you get to process that with anybody? Well, so I don't know if you know what happened that very day, but the day started or that earlier that day, I was up in that, I think it was the same day. I was up in that unfinished roof of Jimmy Jensen's new house. Yeah. With Jimmy. And I'll never forget just that feeling of like, I was just hanging out and talking about school and girls and cars and dumb stuff when you're 14 or 13, whatever I was.

And then suddenly we're like, oh, what's going on down there? I don't know. I see police. They're sirens. What's going on? Oh, my gosh. They're pulling a body out. And then we get this full view of this thing.

The way I processed it was, was I went home. Late, it was later is my memory. I laid down on the couch. And I think I was in shock. Because I woke up in like kind of a hysteria moment and barfed all over mom's ugly couch. Just yacked. And it was this.

But it was. It was such an ugly couch that you probably couldn't tell that I barked on. You didn't know. No one knew. Yeah, no one knew. I cleaned it up pretty good. But anyway, I horked all over the couch. I wasn't actually sick.

It definitely felt like nerves, you know, like I was just shot. And for a while, I was just like cold and shaky and just, I think shock, honestly, like actual clinical shock, not, well, what a shocking event. I mean, like, actual shock you'd be, you know, diagnosed with or whatever. and mom was like you know i remember i remember mom and dad arguing whether i should go to the hospital for this or not they decided not to because i was like cogent at some point and was fine but um that was literally maybe the most processing i did because i don't i don't think i even really had a like a deeper conversation after that it's just always now been like a story i tell

yeah that a thing that i saw so i never really did you know so you processed your stomach and that was about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I processed like a panic attack or if that's what it even was. That may have been the first one I've ever experienced actually now that I look back on it. Yeah. So I don't know why you're like nervous kid or anything. No, it doesn't make sense at all. It doesn't. No, weird. Oh, weird. How strange. And yeah. Okay. So the answer is no, you've never processed it. Okay. So it actually gives a good example of how vivid like you can't see a river without having this memory and everyone might be like yeah yeah that's normal well that's normal for your generation um meaning like the you know mom and dad are like wow he's having a physical reaction

maybe we get help for that but often historically there has not been like hey something hard just happened in your life or you just saw something traumatic should we talk to someone about it or even talk to us talk through it and you know just even have the skill set to do that uh you know Pretty rare, probably around the 80s in your life. And so we take that as, you know, it's not like you're the poster child for, look at what trauma does long term, but it does. Unprocessed trauma long term has incredible effects on people and usually health effects, right? Because it can act as a stress. So let's, we'll just play this up a little bigger.

Let's say every time you passed a river, you had a panic attack. Let's say you avoided ever going near rivers. right um you know like you can see how this gets deeper and deeper in it at and uh you know can cause distress in ways that you know over a lifespan you know caused heart disease stuff like that um okay so so that being said right like this processing is my main advice like having a free safe place to go through that and not letting everyone just tell you it's not your fault because that's not how processing works. So everyone think in your mind, the last time someone came to you to vent something and you just, it was so hard not to just solve it or quickly try to make them feel

better so you could feel better. This is very human to just be like, oh, you're seeing that weird. No, that's not what's happening. And every once in a while, that's what someone needs. They need to have someone talk through it with them and help them make sense. But most of the time, there is just a, it's like a biological requirement to process through something you've seen. And so I should be clear about one thing. We have learned this is, you know, after, and I've talked about this before, but after natural disasters, you've got a lot of people who want to come and help or, you know, a large, difficult, you know, school shooting or something like that.

And so, you know, all these clinicians are like, let's go help, right? So they would go. And what we have found is that trying to process while someone is still in shock, can actually deepen the trauma. And so you can't go deep then. That's just triage processing or triage presence sometimes. That's why animals are the perfect therapist, right?

They don't make you have to dig or anything, but there's a comfort and a grounding and a settling first. So we've learned that for the most part. So now you barfing and being in shock, not in the time for them to say, how are you feeling? That's not quite the time, yeah.

So just making that clear. And then, you know, maybe the next day might have been in time to talk about it. Just saying, okay. When you know better, you do better, right? That's what a generational difference is. But what we find is that sort of that processing and putting in order, people go through ranges of different emotions. And it just doesn't stick the way it sticks when it cannot be discussed.

That's why trauma that is based in secrecy in any form is definitely the worst version. and you know sticks very deeply for people because it just screams it's not safe it's not safe it's not safe and so your body's like yeah forever I will not be safe right yeah I guess and I never really stopped I think I've never thought about this but I've always there's been plenty of rivers in my life since then and it was always fine that same river I still I still went swimming in that little weird swimming hole off the bridge there and where we lived I still did that years later, I still, I don't know, fished a few times in rivers, went down a river, did a river trip with a big giant roaring river. Like that, I never even, I never connected that for some reason. I just connected, we're pulling a dead human body out of a thing.

And it was never the river. It was just this, this body. And the fact that in someone saying, oh, the river was so rough and it was so deep, it tore all of his clothes off. that I remember like just feeling like what would be worse what's worse than drowning drowning drowning and then then pulling you out of the river naked like as silly as that sounds that's in my head is like insult to injury moment you know like it's one thing if you leave this mortal coil it's another thing if you're in your freaking bathing you know your birthday suit at age 35 or whatever the guy was and it just could not get that out of my head it was so weird yeah yeah and and trauma does a particular thing uh especially sort of witnessing something i mean you notice when there's a car accident and everyone's rubber necking and have slowing i mean

slowing down and having to look there is a there is a piece of um us that needs to see something uh maybe to understand it and to not be that thing right to prevent that thing from happening to you it's a safety response visually that's one of our dominant senses as humans and and so that's how we get in that information so those images get burned in your brain right like this naked 35 year old

pulled from a river is the image burned in your brain and that's because your whole system is designed to like never let that happen to you don't get in that car accident don't you know and so it's and everyone's a little different in what they're drawn to look at or not but again, it's about prevention and safety and survival to some extent, right? Okay, so let's go to the emailer.

So this is traumatic for them. I want them to process. Clearly, we have a situation where unless you are a trained first responding type clinician, you are not going to see this for what it became. You just wouldn't see that. And then should you even seek to find that out? is what's questionable about this story for me is like the things he would have had to say and do to find out if this kid was suicidal. I just don't know if anyone would do. Like it's so out of

the norm to be like, hi, I'm just watching a kid ran into a pole. He was drunk driving. Like that's crappy. Let's, you know, help you out and try to, you know, we're going to get the police here. You're just, you're just dadding it, you know? Like, I'll just make this better and make sure everyone's okay and you know everyone brings whatever skill set to that moment is at that moment and it's not it's not going to be in anyone's mind even probably a trained clinician to be like let me ask you the five questions to determine if you're going to take your life um and so you know those those things happened in a sequence that went out of the control of this person or whoever else was there to make any real difference with and that's that's tricky what they would have had to do is

physically restrain this person. And that gets questionable, right? Complicated, yeah. Like, I think if you, you know, if you're, you're just sort of holding them down and tell somebody comes, whether that's the cops or whoever you've called, family, whatever, that's one thing, I suppose, but it doesn't sound like this was that simple. No. And also, they're not wanting to do that.

But, oh, man, you're putting yourself at risk and you have no idea. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's asking a lot. of just a person about to go to bed to come out and, you know, manage all of this, right? Yeah. And that's what makes it, it's really hard because you can always second guess, well, I could have tried this or I could have done this. If you really think about, like, what would anyone do?

And I think they did the thing that anyone could and should do, which was try to de-escalate any situation, you know, the kid was going to run that pole over and then, knock all the power out, maybe really harm himself or others, right? Like, so they were, you know, doing the thing they needed to do. And, and then it takes off running. So are you going to chase the 20? I didn't, he didn't say how old he was. No, he didn't say.

The emailer. Says kid, that could be. Well, they, they, they, no, the emailer. The email. Oh, how old the emailer is. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you're also 20 and super in shape, then go for it.

But, you know, this may be not what's always happening in life. and so you just don't you just don't know and and that's really tricky so so i don't know if i would do anything different or even advise anything differently because i think there's other risks we don't know and that's kind of how stories work right one thing led to another thing an unintentional consequence or whatnot i don't i don't know clearly there there was way more going on than anyone there had any sense of which which gets to and we can go back to the actual story if you would like to but which gets to this bigger broader conversation though about how do you spot typically someone you know well or care about who is having suicidal

feelings versus this quick five minute interaction with someone who's clearly drunk so you wouldn't have a sense of anything actually right and and even in those circumstances so maybe first responders have you know there's training that's like you make sure you remove any way you know they're they're just built to think differently about those situations than regular people just trying to help out right but so let's just talk about that briefly with other people so I'm going to just ask you guys what you think is good conversation to have that's helping prevent suicide good conversation to have like how would anyone do this and maybe you're at a coffee shop with a buddy like we don't have to make it a drama scene you know but like because is this like a

normal question you guys ask with all your friends like yeah yeah exactly how are you doing these days yeah it's you know the if you sense that and uh without going into any details uh somebody that i text with yesterday um started expressing you know like uh some some depression issues and said something like, you know, it's a struggle some mornings getting up. And so I went into, I went into like it's like a, like, you know, my, my template for doing this. But, you know, it's obviously everything kind of gets amplified this time of year with, with the holidays and kind of that for solitude of being inside because of the cold weather and seeing other people having these. great holidays and no matter how good yours is you kind of always look at the other people saying how theirs is so you just you've got to look at it in the perspective that this this two shall pass right

you'll you'll uh we all go through uh peaks and valleys as somebody in the tadpole set a few minutes ago and this is just a valley you're going to be out of it don't worry you've got to uh we're here to get you through that valley. We love you and, uh, and, uh, and we're there for you. So you've just got to, you'll get, you'll, you'll, you'll make it through this valley to the next peak. Yes. And, and if you think about what friends can do, right? And this is where, you know, you, if you had a professional say to you in an assessment like, oh, you'll get over it. Like, it'll happen. Yeah. And certainly to phrase it like that, like, yeah, sure. you'll be fine. No, I know you're not.

Yes, but I mean, definitely like a, look, you know, we're, we're here for you to help you get through this. Yes, that's awesome, right? And so, so let's actually differentiate what you would do as a professional versus what you would do as a friend. So as a friend, um, yeah, as a friend you are like, I mean, clearly you're, you're not going to be like, all right, I'm going to ask you these six questions and I need to know all the truth and the answers. But you can, and here's what is the challenge for everyone, including professionals, is this is a very hard conversation to have sometimes.

It's really hard to even bring up. Every one of us is scared of the word in some form, right? And because what if the person says, yes, well, then what do I do? You know, so it's a bit of the, you know, taboo is not the right word, but just, just like it's such a difficult conversation to have. And so there's this thing called mental health first aid. You guys maybe heard that reference before. And it's a very in-depth training.

I know of someone who goes around Kansas, rural Kansas, and teaches mental health first aid to farmers, basically. Because it is such a, it's such a cool job. On one hand, because you are really going to a group of people who have, you know, historically maybe not had a lot of access to mental health training, and maybe talking about your feelings on a farm isn't been the number one thing people do. And so you're really giving this group of folks a way to understand their own mental health, as well as their coworkers and family members and loved ones. I mean, I don't, you guys can all Google the statistics,

but it's something like twice the number of murders or deaths. I mean, mean, the death rate and the suicide rate and how it's increased dramatically in the last couple years and definitely in the last 20, it's a problem, right? And so everyone's trying to address it in every which way that they can. And so I wish what could happen, though, is mental health first aid was just taught in school and that it was just, you know, all right, you're going to get your driver's license. Also, you need this quick training on mental health first aid. Because really what we have found is a way to save a life is comes down to asking a couple hard questions and then helping the person get help. So you don't have to be an expert. So I'm going to do this

thing. Or I'm going to read you sort of what a professional needs to do in order to assess. So you can just see how hard it is. And that should be the first thing as a friend is to not to say, Oh, you need to go talk to somebody, but it's like you need to, that is kind of where the direction needs to go as a friend, unless you're trained to do all this stuff. It should be, hey, let me help you find somebody who can do a better job of this than me. So, yeah, let's let's talk about the questions. But I will be there for you and I will help you get there. And like, you know, that support is huge because a couple of mental things that are happening

when folks are suicidal. We should have a warning on this show. Yeah, we probably could have done like a thing. the top or something. Yeah. So here's your official warning. It's way too late. Sorry. I'll go. I'll put it in post for the recorded one, which is how 90% of people get it. Please do that. And let me just explain why you do that. Why is that important to have a warning when suicidal thinking action behavior is discussed is there is an interesting, unfortunate sort of contagion that can occur. And it's very triggering. And a lot of people might be walking around.

kind of fighting a balance of wanting to be alive or not. And so when you just talk about it, it's like... And so this is another reason where we're concerned to even bring up the topic. Because we don't want it to be happening. And so people will just kind of continue to suffer alone because it's not safe to talk about this topic. So then when a show has it as part of the drama or the whatever,

and they put warnings, they do that because, you know, if you're going to be triggered by this, you need to know that's coming and maybe avoid it altogether because it can push you into places, darker places in your brain that you didn't know, we're there. So that's why that's important. Okay. So let's just take someone comes into my office or is being referred to a hospital or someplace for an assessment. You know, you get really detailed, but one of the probably the most important thing is that you are asking questions in a non-alarming matter-of-fact way. And so let's just talk about that for a moment. So pick a person in your life that if you said a particular thing to, they just freak out

automatically, right? Like it could be that your grandma, we do not talk about that or, you know, there's just, it's sort of built in the cultural norm that this. is not something that can be talked about. There are, yeah, there are landmines that you just know to stay away from. Yes. Totally. And so you have that happening for the most people are thinking, I have some version of this with suicide or have, you know, definitely prior to the last few years where I think

we're slightly more open to discussing it. But anyway, so you are afraid that you're thinking is the, you're the only one. It is an incredibly isolating experience to have your brain take you to those places where you think everyone's better off without you. So in that brain state, the other person saying, you are thinking about what? I mean, you can imagine just how much harder you're going to make things if they have to now take care of your, they already feel like they can't tell you, right? right so that's why that's so important now they have to now they have to spend time calming you down yes yeah right and lying to you by lying to you that's what they'll have to do which makes them feel even more alone and unsafe right and i understand what i'm asking here and and you know obviously professionals train for this and

have to work on it um and one thing that has really helped me in this the whole process is knowing if they're talking to me, they are not harming themselves right that minute, right? Like, they are not choosing suicide because they are actually in my office. They drove there and could have taken their lives many times on the way. They didn't. They're in front of me. And that has, that has helped me really calm down that part of me that's like, oh, you know, because none of us want someone to die, right? Everyone wants everyone to be okay. And so it really can, can really heighten that, I got to do this right or I don't want to get sued, you know, and there's all these thoughts that I think professionals have had for years

with this. And you work long enough, you figure out some of this stuff. But recognizing like you're there, you need help is the safest place for them to be in that moment. And so that has really helped me. But you have to get into the sort of details to know how to help somebody. Okay. So again, this is professionals. This is not your neighbor, but we'll talk about that in a second. Okay. So you would ask very specifically sort of, are you having suicidal thoughts or thoughts of harming yourself? You know, you just kind of can use all the little words until you, you know, feel like they are hearing what you're saying and making it clear that it's okay if they do. People have those thoughts, you know. And then you can just put it in some other terms like, do you ever wish. you could sleep and not wake up or wish you were dead and then you get more specific about you know have you thought about how you might do it so the plan is really one of the the ways we understand how far someone is along if they've thought through a plan and then you can ask specific so of like about the plan do you like you say well I've thought about you know taking pills

and then it's like have you been collecting pills what do you have in your house like you can start to get right more specific right and then you specific you get the more you can the more that'll tell you right about how how how deep in this are we how yes yes so ideation planning you know those are those are more alarming signs so you know maybe everyone has thought like i like i'd like to go to sleep but not wake up tomorrow right and then you've got to dig to find out because there's socially acceptable things to say like i'm really depressed or i just want to be in bed all day and we can all hear that and go oh yeah that's rough i get that And then it's the sort of going deeper in the next step. And so what we found is even in this mental health first aid is sort of a piece of this is training regular people to know how to ask a couple of these questions in a way that will increase the likelihood of someone being safe. And so it would be, you know, have you, are you having suicidal thoughts? And if the person says yes or, you know, you know, and some of, some of that going. Going back to kind of the skill set, and this is what's hard, is normalizing that this can happen.

And I think one of the main things I've had to do with clients who have been suicidal is to reassure them. I'm not going to run them to a police station right then or drop them off immediately at a hospital that I am willing to talk through all of this with them first. Yeah. Because that's another thing. you know, it's like a two-edged sword. I have so much going on that I don't know if I can do anymore. But if you take me to a hospital, then my life falls apart, right? And so it's really difficult.

So when we go back to this emailer, there's no way you can have done any of these things. Right. Any of these things. None of this is part of that exchange that he had. You can't. There's no setup for that. Right. And this is someone sitting in my office with the whole intent.

that they could share something with me confidentially and we can get there, right? It's still having to work through that. And 90% of my success in these kinds of cases, I think is just my demeanor. It truly is like, I got you and we're going to talk through all these things. Nothing you're going to tell me is going to scare me. Yeah, you're a safe place. I'm a safe person to talk to. This isn't a trick.

You're not trapped here. Yeah, all that stuff. Absolutely not. And there is help and there is a way. And once your brain starts to do some of this thing. thinking it's hard to get it to stop. It's kind of like a neural pathway has been built and we have to learn how to get it to do other things. But it's probably not just going to stop doing that by itself. Right. And that's, you know, so you're building hope and you're creating that like

this is safe and you're not alone and those type of things. And I can help you get the help that's going to do this type of thing. Now, if it's just your friend or your fellow farmer and you're seeing some signs you're concerned about. So some of those signs could be, you know, mentioning some of these hopeless things. There's very commonly the thinking that truly others are better off without you. You know, that's when we're getting into some scarier territory. If they give away things that are cherished to them,

and they're sort of, it's like they're detaching from their physical possessions and different things. The other sign is, and this is what has always been so difficult, is someone is struggling and then they suddenly seem happier is actually a really big red flag. Because often they're struggling with the decision. So ideation, think of it as kind of being tortured, right, with this idea. And the idea could solve all your problems. But then also it's going to hurt someone. And like you're just battling.

So when someone gets to peace about the decision, they can seem like everything is better. And everyone's like, well, great. And it's actually more concerning. But people don't see that until they see it in retrospect. It's too late. Yeah, exactly. Right. So that's why, I mean, I think if, you know, you take the symptoms you're seeing before

seriously. And that's why learning some basics of, you know, mental health first aid is, though we can all relate and we, none of us are immune from any of these experiences, but if you can see someone really struggling and you're having some of these conversations and you can pick up that there's maybe not plans for improvement or I'm going to get help or I've talked to my doctor or some other things, then you know, you're a little more concerned. Let me ask you this tiny side note because it's been, keeps popping up my head so I think it's worth asking. My experience in my life, which is the only experience I can go off of,

that's why I'm telling it from my perspective, has been for those who I've known throughout my life that have taken their own lives, they were always people that no one had any idea. It just no one knew. No one said anything. He was the captain of the football team. What are you talking about? Stuff like that. And then those who I know who were talking about,

it all the time or sometimes just outright threatening it or you know just discussing about how maybe maybe I don't need to be in this world anymore those you know just kind of being outwardly talkative about their depression or their feelings or whatever they're all still here and I'm not saying they're crying wolf that's not my point because I don't think that's true which I'll say something about that in a second okay but and we don't have to get into details but you and I have specific familial experience with a situation like this where it was always being threatened, but it was difficult to tell whether that, you know, that was being used against people or whatever. And so I guess what I'm saying is it feels like the ones, or it always has felt like

the ones that are the ones that are really going to go through this, we just didn't have any idea. And so we can only help those who are vocal because, or that show outward signs, but those who aren't, I don't know how you get to those people. I don't know what you're supposed to do. And just from experience, they seem to be the ones that actually go through with it. But we didn't know. So anyway, I don't know what your thoughts are on that or if that's even worth. Brian, did you have something you want to say?

No, I know. It was just, you were humming along. Okay, awesome. Well, I just didn't know if you were. Humming along. Just doop-de-boob. This is such an easy topic. Okay. So let's just talk about that briefly because you're hitting on why this is so difficult

and why mental health first day really should be as common as physical first aid in that it's just about knowledge and understanding and having a better grasp on these things for ourselves, right? If you have, you sit through a training that talks about this and you're like, I've had all those experiences. Oh, and here are all the solutions to help me with that. You know, that'd be one thing, right? We don't do that in any direct ways through education. And I think it's unfortunate, right?

And so there's that piece of maybe just more systemically improving access to good information that way and having it be put in instead of it's just always optional. but it matters right okay so there's that but then there's also this you know um the people who are talking about it either because somebody heard them and could then offer them guidance or help um or they're processing out loud might be some of that difference people who just kind of quietly um go about this tend to be isolated and then there's signs much earlier too um and just most of us aren't looking for them. And some people are really hiding them.

That can happen as well. But so often it's a couple factors that really drive this is the belief that it's helpless. So if I keep everything inside, I only have my inner world to decide if things are hopeless and there's no way out, right? If I'm saying it out loud, someone else is going to say, like, well, like, Brian, your description of this support of, like, this is a valley and we will walk with you through this valley. Like, once you know there's someone else with you, it's a really different ballgame, right? And so, you know, I think it requires families to get better at communicating in these particular ways. It's communities, schools. I know this mental health for state training is they're attempting to go to all law enforcement and firefighters.

And, you know, because you're killing two birds with one stone. Sorry for the pun. But like, you're getting the workers who have are going to have to deal with this on the front line. but also them for themselves, right? So let's just talk really briefly about the attention-seeking version of this because that is a thing and can happen. And unfortunately, causes disruption

for the other versions of suicidal feelings and ideations and that type of thing because people can get a little bit like, well, they just want attention. And if you think about just the origin, of that, right? I hate that, though. Gosh, I hate that. Isn't that crazy? We're like, oh, you just want attention. And here's the thing. There is someone who needs attention and then they threaten suicide and then people just say,

no, they still need attention. They still need attention. Yeah. It's not even maybe for suicidality at all, but there is something going wrong. And so I think of this is like parenting a kid in terms of teaching them not to steal, right? This goes back, Scott. and I probably both have this exact experience. You steal something when you're five, your mom marches you back to the store, makes you apologize and pay for it. And, you know,

you get an immediate lesson on a thing, and it works because you don't ever want to do that again, right? And I don't mean it's as a punishment, but as a general rule, take anyone's suicidal threats seriously. You don't even have to decide. Yeah. You just take it as if that is,

a fact because it will, first of all, the person will learn, oh, I get a ton of medical attention if I do this. And that's maybe just exactly what they need. It also may be, you know, my boyfriend broke up with me and I'm going to kill myself if he doesn't, you know, call me back. Okay. Well, then send in the big guns and say, well, all right, you said this and we take it very seriously. And I think schools are doing a slight, well, at least our school district is doing a slightly better job of just not messing around at all. And so it kind of, it, people will learn, like, oh, that's not the way to get that attention or they're going to get that attention that they need, right?

So that's my default. Anyone jokes about it. I was just like, okay, so real quick, like I don't, you know, I just take it seriously. And I know that's hard in a family dynamic where there's a kid who's always like, don't love me or you're not the helping you know and then they escalate to that type of thing I mean it needs to be just the

alarm bell that like oh we need to take their need for help seriously even if see this is how I look at it even if it's somebody who is purposely using it as a tool to antagonize people in their lives even if that's the case and I'm sure there are cases of this

everyone's different if that's the case that's still a proper cry for help like it's still it's still even if they have no intention of committing suicide there's something there's a hole that needs filling

and you can help with that like you don't you don't need to see it as like oh they're just like it isn't this binary exchange no it's usually an attachment problem right they are feeling very insecurely attached for whatever reason to people in their lives

something's not okay and they need help yeah right Right. Well, I, so there's two things I hope come out of this. People who are perhaps experiencing those feelings or know somebody who is. I hope some of this is helpful for you. I really hope it was so we can save some lives. But also, I hope this dude doesn't get too hard on himself for second guessing everything he did that night. Because I don't know any of us who would have handled any of that any differently. Like that's not, that's the funny thing is here. It's not like there was a point where I go, oh, there was your mistake. There was not, you didn't do any of that. no and also there were plenty of people just sat in their apartments right right right and that and i think of you know uh mr rogers you know look for the helpers yeah yeah i just think there's there's a lot of helpers among us and the more we're ready to help in ways that are effective are great right but like just the kindness of some strangers trying to help a kid it's just heartwarming and it's really tragic in the end.

But the reality is this is more and more a risk and the more guns we have the higher the risk of successful suicides are. We can look at all the stats through the world and the states.

You know, more guns, it's easier because it's these moments. In fact, they've sort of narrowed it down to like a five-minute window of where it's just 100% convincing in your brain to end it all. and if you can get through that five minutes. And that's why people will turn themselves in.

They will go to a, you know, when they get that desperate that they need to not be alone. And that five minutes with a gun works much faster than five minutes when you're trying to figure out a plan. And that's what's the future of this is tricky. And that's why we always have to, again, do the caveat of the warning. So please put it on here is just it can just even the topic and the can trigger, people, but also, I hope it at least triggers this, that there is so much good help for this. This isn't a permanent state. Even just the window where people take their lives is a short window.

And getting help and, you know, getting out of that place that's maybe not a short journey out. And that's difficult. Sometimes it is. Sometimes just having somebody know. I found that very frequently. If someone just knows I'm thinking these things, there's so much relief.

You're just not alone. Yeah. And so seek out that help. And if you struggle to find it in any form, send us an email, and we will find it, help you find it. Heck, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We want you here.

Send emails to the morning streamage email.com, text us at 801-471-4-642 or any. of the method you can get a hold of us we would be happy to help you exactly yeah never never not willing uh awesome well windy uh very christmas big christmas plans you do anything it's actually very appropriate topic for this time yeah it is a depressing time of year it's january that i hate this disorder yeah that's when i get grumpy is right around january oof we'll see how i do this here uh are you uh are you uh first tuesday in november that's right are you are you are you Are you doing any big plans?

Are you going anywhere? You just, yeah, we're just do a little fun cabin trip up north and playing the snow with some friends and that's it. Yeah, careful. We've got,

we currently have, I mean, you guys had some good snowstorms. We have, I mean, it snowed 10 inches last night. Jeez. We are,

it just looks like a flipping frozen Christmas card everywhere. So it's great. That's great. But January, it doesn't. It looks like. What's the temperature in the Twin Cities right now? How cold is it?

Oh. it's super warm let me tell you um you know i don't know it's only negative 10 it is negative 7 oh that's not so bad brian you got colder weather than windy how do you feel about that there's uh negative 8 right now so just beating you by 1 what's your what's your humidity index let's just let's fight it's Colorado i think it's a pretty dry zero yeah zero humidity you're like Utah we don't get the humidity index would be right now i guess we have some i'm at 74% so oh wow okay yeah that feels worse, a lot worse. Yeah, and that wind, it's like, yeah, it's great. So remind me why I live here in January. All right. Well, winter wonderland aside, have a fantastic holiday. Merry Christmas to you

and all the kids and Adam and everybody. And we will see you next time. Next year. No, are you here next week? I don't remember. Remind me. Are you here next week next Thursday? Uh, no. Okay, that's right. You're gone. Making a snowman. So yeah. Happy. Then happy new year. May 2023 bring Wendy and her family, nothing, but I don't know. Cool deals at Walmart. I don't know what. I have a kid who will move out this next year.

I'm so excited. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Abraham on the road. That's weird. I know. It's going to be amazing. All right.

Yeah. Happy New Year into you guys, too. We'll see you next year. All right. Bye now. Don't drink. She doesn't drink. Except me we're not getting her next Thursday.

Yeah, Thursday's out. Sounds like she'll be it up at the do-da-up. Yep. All right. We are done with the show. Nice long one today, but that's okay because, you know, big holiday coming up. And I really do hope today's segment help somebody because I don't know. I just don't. For sure. I don't want anyone getting hurt. Come on now. Let's get to just mentioning this, that our Patreon is how things flow. It's how it works. It's how we're able to stay on top of stuff and keep things moving. If you would like to help us out and be a part of our Patreon, you can do it at patreon.com. slash TMS. And a quick note, I believe tomorrow we will be able to get in a couch party. That's the plan right now.

Okay. Good. I think. We're seeing a way of water, but we, you know, if we're doing a, if we're doing a Ms.

Marvel, plenty of, the final episode of Ms. Marvel, plenty of time. Oh, perfect. We'll do our finale. That's awesome. We'll do that.

Oh, a little bit of bad news about couch parties. I forgot to mention this. Oh, no. New couch? No, whenever I put the video version up

anywhere. Our couches pull out, but we don't. I get DMCA takedowns every time I've done it. Oh, yeah, sure. So I had it on one service they did takedowns. I'm like, all right, well, what weird clandestine dark web place can I put it next? I've tried everything, including Archive.org. They had, they issued takedowns. I don't know where to put these files. This is a new thing, actually. I just got an email from Patreon yesterday that we can now, like, there's now video. We can now put, uh, video in Patreon. Sort of.

So I checked into that. Okay, you did. They will do DMCA takedowns of any copyrighted material. Oh, they will. Okay. So I can't do that either. Also, we have a grandfathered account, which doesn't have that feature yet, which kind of sucks.

But it also means we get better payout percentages because we're still on the original plan. Sucks being a grandpa. I know, right? It's the worst. So I'm trying to figure something out. I'm not going to do anything too weird because I don't want to send people down funny links, but. Right.

That's right. Our, uh, visit our, go check out our episode at file upload.com. Yes. Um, dot RU. Yep. Now audio 100% no problem. That's still, will still be a thing. What I'm thinking is I have an AWS, uh, bucket with Amazon.

I might be able to do like a week to week thing where I'll put like a four gig video file up there. And then it goes away when the next one gets posted. Does that make sense? Sure. Sure. So I'm figuring it out. I like that you guys get to watch it. and for those that can't be there live

I just man copyright's weird it just shouldn't work this way but it does anyway that's it for that I could do Torrance I guess oh that sounds like a nightmare oh you know what

somebody could do someone's Plex server could host these get a hold of me when I come with something Gallifrey yeah somebody got a little bit of room on that hard drive there

hmm not a bad idea actually yeah anyway that'll do it for us thank you all for listening again tonight lots of content happening here if you want to watch play retro that'll be at 2.30 core will be at 5 and there is one more core this year

next week we'll be doing our best of the year special episode so you're going to want to hear that and then like Brian said coverville tomorrow or Saturday watch for that and I think that's everything okay I think that's it Brian if that's it play a song then I guess I could yeah

speaking of people we know and love that we've talked to earlier in this episode, uh, Red Fraggle wrote in or texted or discord or I don't know. No, she used our, she used as everybody else should use our method of getting requests in, which is by going to frogpants.com slash TMS. Don't, don't do it a different way.

Yeah, no special treatment for people that come on and do guest spots, okay? Exactly. Get your ass where all the plebeians go. That's how it works. Exactly. So, uh, this one's, uh, from Amy in honor of Chuck's surgery today. No, no particular reason.

We're choosing this particular song with this particular title. But this is going out to Chuck. And it's a cover of Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball. Brian didn't tip me off on this. This is news to me. I love it. That's amazing. She says, let's test the ship's phasers for good luck.

Yeah, let's do that. Thanks and please forgive me. This was Chuck's idea. She says, signed it. Amy. Where's phasers? Let's test the ship's phasers. There it is.

There it is right there. By the way, can I just say how glad I am that Amy shipped out our boxes before any of these surgeries and removals of body parts occurred? Because I could just imagine someone less scrupulous what they would send us for surprise Christmas presents. Yeah, I'm glad that you had those parts before you. Yes. Ship before you remove.

That's the rule. Yes, exactly. Shipped before those parts removed. All right. How about a cover of Wrecking Ball? This one done by rustic overtones. This is so good. It changes the song up so much.

From the album, Mood Box, collected music by rusted overtones from 2014. Here is Wrecking Ball. chained our hearts in vain you jumped never asking why we kissed I fell under your spell love that no one could deny

don't you ever say I just walked away I will always want you I can't live a life running for my life I will always want you I came in like a wrecking ball I never hit so hard in love All I wanted was to break you was

All you ever did was Wreck me All you ever did was Let me All you ever did was Wreck me I put you high up in the sky You're not coming down

It's slowly turned You let me burn And now we're ashes on the ground Don't you ever say I just walked away I will always want But I can live alive Running for my life

I will always want I came in like a wrecking ball I never hit so hard in love All I wanted was to break you walls All you ever did was wreck me I came in like a becky ball I just closed my eyes and swore Let me catch it in a blazey fall

All you ever did was wreck me I never meant to start a war I just wanted you to let me in I guess I should have let you know I didn't mean to start a war I just wanted you to let me in I guess I should have let you know Don't you rather stay

I just walked away I will always want you I came in like a record ball I never hit this heart in love before I was only trying to break you walls All you ever did was All you ever did was I named me like a wrecking ball

I just closed my eyes and swung away Let me catching a blaze in a blaze in fall All you ever did was All you ever did was Wreck me All you ever did was Wreck me

All you ever did was Wreck me All you ever did was All you ever did was Oh, you ever did one? This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants. Ha ha ha.