The Morning Stream - TMS 2402: Bjork Irritation

Episode Date: January 5, 2023

Make Something Better, Monkey. Sleepless in Salt Lake. Dry Hard: With a Resin. That Guy on Hawkeye Lied. Yippee Kayee, 3D Printer. Women Got Cool Guts. The Era of Talking Moose. How many languages do ...you speak? Brown Beats by Dre. You Cant Take The Babble Out Of The Rando Caller! Supports Matter. Unique Sounding Stupid Voice. Captain Borka is the Swedish Chef from the Muppets. Elastic Lady Parts With Amy. Pretty Fly for a Science Guy with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Yippie Kaye, 3D printer. Women got cool guts. The era of talking moose. How many languages do you speak? Brown beats by Dre. You can take the babble out of the rando collar. Supports matter. Unique-sounding stupid voice.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Captain Borka is the Swedish chef of the Muppets. Elastic lady parts with Amy. Pretty fly for a sign. Science Guy with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. It looks like your finger, but watch him flip. It's a secret weapon at your fingertip. Just point and fire six finger sends, and as a whistle, to your friends. He stole my balloons!
Starting point is 00:01:16 The Morning Stream! Don't eat that. It's Pluto. Hello. Hello, good morning, everybody. It is Thursday, January 5th, 2023, and this is the morning stream. I'm Scott Johnson, and that is Brian Abbott High. Good morning. Oh, hello, Scott. I've been up most of the night. Yeah, been there. Been there, done that. The hard part about it was I thought I'd just come home, because we got home by one. It wasn't that bad. We got there at midnight. Her plane was on time. Oh, that's good. Picked up Carter, got her luggage, did her thing, got her home, and then talked for a bit.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And then by 1 o'clock, we're, like, in bed. And I just could not knock off. I could not go to sleep. That's too wired up. That is the worst. So it was like 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock in the morning, something like that. And you just sit there and you're watching the clock and you're like, come on, I just want to sleep. Yeah, it isn't even a big deal.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And I'm trying different stuff and nothing's working. And I'm not about to, like, play a game or breathe. eat or watch anything because that will make it worse for me. I just know myself. So I just laid there and laid there and laid there. Finally, about 6 o'clock I pass out or 5.30, whatever. Then I got to wake up at 7. And then, you know, that's just my natural alarm.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And now I'm up. And now what do you do? I can't do nothing. I'm just a tired, a tired young man, you know? Yeah, it's all right. I'll shake out during the day somehow. I don't know how. But I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But it was fun. And, you know, getting her was great. I bet you're so glad to have her. home. I'm thrilled to Abber home. She's, you know, I like her a lot. She's a fun kid. And when she's not here, it's less fun. So, no offense, Kim, but just not as fun as having, you know, harder. Her dog lost her mind, though. So we let him out when she got here. Lost her freaking mind. She thought she had just, I think she was settled into this idea that that previous person I was, you know, completely hooked on is now gone. She doesn't exist anymore. And then bam, there she is. Too much. months later lost her mind jumped all over i thought she's getting up on the counter at some point she was just jumping so high and freaking out i love i love those videos of dogs getting reunited with their owners who are like overseas fighting for you know like a soldier coming back or whatever and the dog just goes absolutely nuts i love that yeah that happened kind of um after her long
Starting point is 00:03:52 uh tour of duty in iceland yeah where she uh you know this just doing a doing the good work for for the boys in the field or whatever. Listen, I know Carter wasn't, but you see videos like that all the time on TikTok and YouTube and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, those are always great. Those are what I'm talking about. No, I know. I know you mean.
Starting point is 00:04:10 They're great. I do love them. And I, if it were me, she'd never leave the state again, but she, you know, she's got some ideas. She wants to go to Japan next with her friend and do this a similar thing. So that'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:04:26 That'd be her second trip to Japan. So that'd be fun. anyway it's good to have her back and everything's good except i couldn't sleep that was the only problem yeah yeah good stuff uh hey we have some updates yesterday we were trying to figure out your yeah the yeah that somebody had mentioned in uh in in the discussion right and i tried to find an example of it and had a really hard time doing it so that's why i'm still a little confused but luke and boulder boulder colorado wrote in and he says up the street from me yeah he's not far at all luke said regarding brian's yeah and
Starting point is 00:04:59 the other listener pointed out, I believe it's the, yeah, that Brian often does during the pre-shoulders. Yeah, like when you say, let's do a show. You're ready to do a show? And I go, yeah, that kind of thing? I think that's it. And it's also that halting thing where you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Yeah. It says kind of a long yawn-like way. I noticed it as well, but figured it was some kind of inside joke and was sort of an, and I was outside of it. Well, there's no joke there, but.
Starting point is 00:05:26 No. What's the role? I can say with. 100% certainty and that that is wholly created and invented by me and it is not my doing an impersonation of someone else like a robot or anything that is a pure for whatever the hell that's worth that is a pure Ibit creation yeah nobody else wrote in to say including the original writer he didn't he didn't clarify so I assume I assume this is just the thing Brian does you guys that's all it is
Starting point is 00:05:59 just a thing I do. It's a verbal tick, says Rainbow Bright. I don't know about that. I don't about a tick. It's like, I mean, it is, yeah, it is kind of John Lovitz. We were talking about that yesterday, the John Lovitz, yeah, yeah. And it's kind of a little bit of, um, uh, you dirty rat, like, you know, that kind of, uh, 1920s gangster.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, you want me to rub him out? It's like clamps on the Futurama. It's like that a little bit. I mean, I, you know, I don't know. It's, uh, it's one of those things. things I don't, didn't think about until now. Thank you very much for writing in. Thank you for that. Now you'll notice it every time you do it. Yeah, exactly. It was nice when you guys commented on me
Starting point is 00:06:41 using Absolutely all the time and we even have audio and I don't use that as much. But now, thanks. Now I'm going to be thinking about every time I say, yeah. Yeah. I'm a, I do a lot of, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like I'll do that a lot with, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I think I do that, No fan or something. Yeah, I think the word yeah is maybe my most, I mean, I'm starting to notice it it to myself. I think it might be the most used word I have, I think. I'm not sure, actually, but if I could count, like somebody could count them.
Starting point is 00:07:11 We've got to get somebody out there who's got no time, all the time in the world, is what I mean, on their hands, who wants to just count how many times we say, yeah, and then we'll do like an average and, you know. I imagine there is an app that can take our show and transcribe it, and, I'll Although it probably wouldn't do a great job of distinguishing our voices. We need the, the, um, AI thing to kind of figure out parse each of our different voices. But it would be great to see like a transcript of our show and see what word we use the most outside of like your basic, you know, is, Amar, was, we're being been had, like all those. I have a future prediction based on something you just said that reminded me of it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay. All right. I am 100% convinced of this. So I've heard enough really insanely high quality AI voice recreation that there is going to come a time pretty quickly here. We're either for free or through a service, you're going to be able to go and just read a few paragraphs to a thing. And then it will have you down. It will have everything. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:20 You would ever, however you would say anything, it will have you down. And you can feed it any text you want. It would read back to you in a natural sound. like you were on a mic saying it voice and this will be this hot new when you go to your grave this is what you leave your kids or your family oh god is this like ability to son i know i've gone off to the great beyond but i do have some fatherly advice for you yep i'll bet if this isn't already happening i'd actually be surprised somebody somewhere is already cooking this up uh because they can just see it so what'll happen is it'll be like
Starting point is 00:08:54 okay gather around remember when grandpa I used to read the night before Christmas to everybody on Christmas Eve. Well, here we go, and they'll hit play, and that thing will just read it as if he's sitting there, disembodied, sitting there, reading it. Sure. That's happening. Yeah, it just has to know all the different phonics, right? And then inflections, and then it can say, okay, well, he always doesn't up at the end of
Starting point is 00:09:14 this, and he always does this. I mean, we, didn't we have, again, the jankiest oldest version of this, but I seem to remember a really janky early audio thing, kind of in the era of talking moose, if that tells you anything, where you could record different phonics and it would allow you to type a sentence and have it read it in your voice. It would sound like hot garbage. But as long as you said all the phonics in a monotone, all at the same level than it. could read that sentence, but it's still would sound like, this is me reading a sentence.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, yeah, it wasn't very good then. Not even with that thing at the end. This is me reading a sentence. Well, the new, the stuff, I mean, machine learning is just that. It learns all that stuff you're talking about. So all you'd have to do is just have somebody sit there and talk and it would train on it. And then, I mean, they already have done it with people. So the question is whether or not that's a thing regular people like us would even want.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Do we want that? Do we want our voice? to be forever enshrined as a possible speaking thing that would be indiscernible from our real voice. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. I don't know either. And it sure makes me think I'd better hurry and finish recording this audiobook for a friend of mine before all he has to do is hit a button and it's, you know, it does it all for me. Jeez. I know that exists now with what's this software I used the other day. It's kind of expensive so I only use the free stuff, but Murph, it's called, M-U-R-F.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Murph. And it's, um, so you have an example I can actually play. Do I have one? Okay. Uh, no. Short for Murphy. Uh-huh, per murphy.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Uh-huh, burpee. Basically, I used it to put some texts in, um, let's see, will it even read it? No, it says I'm out of free time. That's a shame. Anyway, it is, it gives you a list of like, I don't know, 100 different voices, cadences, accents, whatever. and they're in it's impossible to tell it's a that it's a real person saying those things so you just type in a phrase and it'll say that as one
Starting point is 00:11:29 of these voices in it yeah and you can tweak it so like if you're like well I'm not quite getting the inflection I want you can go in there mold it and say when he gets to this line I really want to punctuate that or whatever and then it will it will attempt to do that and then you can save those changes export to a file whatever it's it's crazy this stuff so it's happening man somebody better be working on And the, oh, what was that called? What was the test that Deccard performs on replicants to determine whether or not the, you come to a tortoise.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's on its back. Why aren't you flipping it over, Leon? Why aren't you flipping over the tortoise? I love that stuff. What's a tortoise? And the one, the 2049 thing was in. Camp something, Vox Camp. Void Camp.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Void Camp. Void. Void. That's right. Void camp test. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Anyway, we need that because pretty soon we're not going to be able to discern whether or not the things we see online or we are already there, right?
Starting point is 00:12:33 We really can't be sure, 100% sure that the things we see in here online are real or not. Yeah, no kidding. The thing that Kay says in 2049, I'm trying to remember what he says. He has to do a thing where he kind of resets his, let's see, what does it say? It says He has to do that emotional baseline thing What does he say you guys? Do you remember it?
Starting point is 00:12:56 I can't remember what he said I used to love hearing that I guess I could go listen to it But who is this? What is this? The character K from from Blade Runner 2049 When they'd have to
Starting point is 00:13:05 They'd bring him back And test him and make sure he's not Like overloaded or whatever the deal was Or he hasn't gone rogue I love that I saw last night on Hulu That they've got what's called The Blade Runner
Starting point is 00:13:16 The Final Cut and then Blade Runner 2049 on there. You can watch them as a little double feature. I don't know which one is the final. There have been so many different versions of Blade Runner. I think that's the final one. Do you have a version you prefer? I've only ever, well, I haven't seen whatever is called the Final Cup,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but I've seen the directors, whatever the one prior to that was. The one that takes out the narration. Yeah, yeah, that one I've seen. And doesn't have Deckard and Sean Young driving off on their way to, the Overlick Hotel to join Jack Torrens. That was a really weird. That's a weird ending.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, it was just like, all right, we need a happy ending. All right, let's show that he's not a replicant. They're both alive and burr-ber-da-britter. Yeah, that's a massive example of, like, studio interference. I hate that stuff. Yeah, I agree. But the director's room was great. I'm sure the final cut's good.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I wouldn't mind watching a double feature. That'd be all right. That'd be all right. And I love the Villanoo movie, so I'm in. Oh, of course. Big fan. All right. So there's the yeah thing. We got it taken care of. It's all good. Brian, say yeah as often as you want. Who cares? Do whatever you want. You know? It's your show. Look, we're here together. You say what you want to say what you want to say. Yeah, if the word yeah comes up in strange ways. I'm going to say, I'm going to slowly try and work in affirmative. That's going to be my new thing. That's going to be a firmative. Yeah, yeah, and then when Steve's saying, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go, oh, affirmative, affirmative, firmative. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:14:54 That will not be noticeable at all of that change. Not at all distracting to any of us. Speaking of things that are distracting and hard to understand, got a voicemail I'd like to try to dissect. I love the voicemails. Yeah, and this is a weird one. So I'm going to play this. We're going to go to the audio tape. Ladies and gentlemen, I can't tell what's happening in this call.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Maybe you can help us. Here it is. Hey, Mass, maybe. This is Woolfowler, and I was just kind of say, my dad had an upside or a thing that he observed that I didn't, is that your pressure of hawkeye is kind of a little sinister and uh i'm trying to make you be like make something better monkey so i think he's high or drunk or something i think he's high or drunk or something i don't know i don't want to assume i assume so right right yeah
Starting point is 00:16:11 I hope it's not a medical issue. Yeah, it's best I can tell. So did you post with the Jeremy Renner stuff that's going on? Did you post a Hawkeye picture recently? No, I think he may be referring to, the only thing I could think of is I have that Alan Alda Hawkeye in my store that I drew. Oh, sure, yeah. And that that looks sinister.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And he wants that hot guy to look less sinister because right now he looks a little Yeah, yeah. So what I'm thinking is maybe this is something better, monkey. some of you who maybe bought a print their dad pointed out that looks sinister or something there were two other voicemails but they were in incomprehensible they were just coherence sure okay all right same same number same guy same exact number i think it's the same dude but the mic's half cover you know people with their chin on the mic and you can't hear it anymore and stuff like that so i didn't get any additional information out of it but um yeah he was he went on a roll there
Starting point is 00:17:06 and these all came in at like three o'clock in the morning so as they do Yeah. So probably high. That's fine. You know, whoever you are, if you can, if you're hearing me now, I'd love to, you know, hear from you again, I suppose. Maybe in the daytime. And, you know, we'll have a chat. We'll see what's going on. But I really don't know what he meant. I assume it's that drawing. If it is, oh, I was going to pull it up. That does make sense. Yeah. That's probably it. It's just a picture of Hawkeye did. I did three of them. I did one of Potter, Hawkeye, and BJ. And they all, they're all just, like portraits, kind of caricatures. And the Hawkeye one, you could say he looks sinister, but it's because Hawkeye always looked a little skeevy when he was, he's drinking a martini, he's kind of going, hey, what are you doing, nurse whoever? He's got squinty eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I mean, he's totally, um, he's totally a little, like he's always up to something that, that Benjamin Franklin Pierce. Yeah, that's right. He, you know, they didn't take, you can take the boy out of Maine, but you can't take the main out of the boy is how the old phrase goes. A little crab apple cove. That's right. All right, Brian.
Starting point is 00:18:14 What else is going on? You got some... Yeah, I've been printing some 3D stuff for other people, including our T-Maven, Gwen. And she's asked me to print some minis. So it's stuff like this, like little D&D-style minis. Sure. This is an example of what can go wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Because look at that wing. That wing has gotten a little... little borked. It looks like an AI drew it, kind of. It kind of does, right? Like, I cannot do hands. And that's all because of supports. This is done using automatic supports. And if you are a person who's a resin 3D printer, like me, it is about time you learned, like I am, to do your own supports and not do automatic supports. And here's the problem with that. What is automatic? Well, First define that. What is automatic supports?
Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm going to define supports. So supports, when you 3D print something with resin, basically it is taking a metal plate, lowering it down to a microns width of a UV light so that only one little thin layer of resin can be between the plate and the bottom of the tank, right? So it's like, give me just the thinnest layer. Then the UV light comes on, burr, and then it cures the resin in that shape. Then the plate moves up, comes back down, another little micron of goo between now what's printed and the bottom of the vat, it cures that, and then it just keeps on repeating that, going up and down and basically sandwiching a little thin layer of resin between each time, and then the UV cures it. I didn't know it cured in real time like that as you did a layer.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I had no idea. I don't know what I pictured. I pictured something coming out of the goo like Hark Conan and Doom. right oh yeah no not nearly that fast it's uh it's super slow and it does it one little thin micron later time and each time because it can't just go up a little bit because that might not fill in all the spots with goo it has to go all the way up let those areas fill in underneath it and then back down and then do a little thing right now um because so if you look at if you look at this this wing and i'll describe it for our audio listeners there's a chunk of wing like right
Starting point is 00:20:36 there that let's say this was this was printing just like this so it's going and it and really technically it prints just like this no it's upside out okay now there's this area right here this chunk of wing that isn't attached to anything until you get up to the back of the character right and because of that you need a support to start from the base and connect to the very tip of that wing that makes sense and when you're dealing with somebody like a dude like this who's got all these little cape and sword and stuff like that. There's a lot of different shapes that are going to come in contact before they connect to the piece itself. So you have to draw a little support under each one of those as you go as you go up. And what I do is in the
Starting point is 00:21:25 software that I use, I basically replicate the printer trying to print it and then as soon as I see a little little island of something that's not going to get connected, I have to add a little support there and then move up a little bit. Oh, there's a little shape that's not going to get added. So for like the last 45 minutes this morning, right before the show, I was working on some more of these minis for Gwen and having to do that layer thing one by one by one by one. Now, Gwen pays me in tea, so I'm perfectly fine doing it for her, but it is it is
Starting point is 00:22:03 yeah it is way more difficult to prepare a file correctly for resin printing than it is for filament printing because of the supports watching a speed or what do you call it a time lapse video is that the one that bioCal posted no I just grabbed one but you found one but you can see those supports they look like little ladders
Starting point is 00:22:24 yeah there's tons of them yeah some of them if it's a solid piece that's one thing like this lightsaber there they didn't need it but this one where they just showed a Pokemon. I don't know which Pokemon it was. They had to have a million spaghetti string. A million little supports. And you and if you want to guarantee that it comes out, you can't trust the automatic supports
Starting point is 00:22:44 because it's going to fail so many times. This Bruce Willis thing that I keep doing, keep showing. And I think he just, hippie-cahe. This one, I was able to print. So I printed it like this so that the supports are all up here because if there's going to be any residue from the supports, I'd rather have them on the back of the head than on the face where
Starting point is 00:23:05 somebody's going to be looking at it. By the way, this is transparent. I don't know if you can tell it, but Oh, no, I couldn't tell. It just looked great on camera. Oh, look at this. Oh. A little transparent, Bruce. Bruce is in Avatar. It looks like.
Starting point is 00:23:22 That's all blue. That's cool. So I'm using that Soraya resin that Bill Duran recommended. This stuff is the bomb. Really? Builder in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Just better and more consistent? Faster. Faster curing. So basically it, this, this, in my old resin that I was using would probably take, I don't know, seven or eight hours to print this little head and all the other things, printed in this fast resin with like three hours. Pretty good. More expensive, I assume.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's like the high end stuff. Only a little bit. Like it's 40 something a bottle compared to the 35 a bottle that I was. doing for the other stuff. That's not bad. And I've got some regular gray, so I've got the opaque gray stuff coming for that resin to try it out. But yeah, it's thebom.com. Very nice. That's your little 3D minute right there to talk about all the hell I'm going through
Starting point is 00:24:16 right now learning how to do supports. Supports matter, turns out. Yeah, supports matter. It's a little surprising to me that more models don't come with the person who did the model thinking about the supports ahead of time. I mean, I guess that's probably some. You know what? It's good that you say that, because some do.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Some designers actually will create supports. The Eastman, who does like this, this magneto, this rad magneto, I think he, on some of his models, actually includes the support so that you don't need to think about it. He's already out of them. Now, in most cases, they're a little heavy-handed with that stuff, so they'll do a little. lot of extra supports whether you need them or not but again way better to be heavy-handed with it do more supports than um than less are the supports once you're done let's say you've got 15 long skinny supports and you've you've now removed those is that stuff reusable or because it's cured you're done once it's cured you're done got that that stuff there's um with filament
Starting point is 00:25:23 printing there are people who are figuring out ways to make the filament scraps that that you get meltdown and then spool back up into spools. But that stuff is so unreliable right now and expensive that it's, sadly, it's way cheaper just to throw that stuff away and not try and reuse it. Gotcha. Well, they should figure out a way to better do that just for the future. Because if we're going to be fabricating tons of stuff, that seems like a lot of waste because you do want these supports. You want to have all the excess.
Starting point is 00:25:57 For sure. Kind of sucks and just toss. it you know yeah uh well there you go there's a 3d printing minute with brian in the 3d printing minute yeah the new segment uh hot off the presses well done all right we're gonna get amy up in it all right yeah it's time for read this oh whoops i'm in the wrong group here we go now i'm in the right group and if i could type that'd be good all right there we go all right she's coming in She's coming in hot. And her little theme is all ready to play.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Where the hell is it? There it is. Yeah, you heard us right. It's time for read this with Amy. She comes on the show and talks about books. Cool books she's reading and wants to recommend to find people out there listening to the show. Amy, welcome back to the show. Hello.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Thank you so much. Good to have you back. How the heck are you? It is good to be back. I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? Yeah, good. Are you all healed up?
Starting point is 00:26:53 No weirdness? No funky business? Yeah, so far, so good. Yeah. You know, yeah, I would say I'm, I get tired. Not peeing out of your hip or anything? No, that'd be bad. No, no, oh gosh, no, that would make it.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Side peeing. That's a huge mess. I could just blame the dog, but, you know. Always blame the dog, sure. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, everything's going pretty good so far. You know, no real complaints. Chuck's also doing pretty well.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Good. Good. So, yeah, we both have to kind of remember because we both feel better that we still need to, you know, not lift things. Yeah, sure. You know, because we haven't been given the okay to do that. Yeah, that's the drag about having yours done one right after the other is that you don't have somebody, or maybe you do have somebody in this. I guess you have kids who can come and help and lift heavy things for if you need them. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. Don't get on a trampoline. That was my experience. When I had my appendix taken out, that was the worst possible thing I could have done. And it hurt like hell. So don't do that. I'm not sure. I'm sure you weren't planning on it. But I was 16 and stupid. You know, it's like, oh, yeah. Hey, I feel great. Let's go jump. Oh, my gosh. I think I'm going to die. And then I didn't do that again. Anyway, yeah, things down in that zone of the human body weren't meant to have a lot of strain when they've been cut open. removed and changed and stuff. So I'm glad you're doing that right. I would say in general, they're not really meant to be cut open, but in this case, I was grateful for it. That's true. Yeah. And now you're ready for future augmentations, right?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like in the future, they'll say, hey, Red Fragal Amy, we figured out a way to give you, I don't know, super, super hearing, but we have to put it where your uterus used to be. Right. Yeah. It would be all ready for it. Yeah, there's definitely a vacancy there. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I was going to say, that's really the only residual thing that's still kind of leftover is, you know, I mean, it left kind of a big hole. So, you know, now my muscles in that area have to kind of figure out how to be again. You know, like they're like, hey, there was stuff here before. And now there's not. And so they have to kind of knit themselves back together in weird ways. That's where you can keep your weed in there, if you're careful. Claire Gack, how big is a uterus? Well, typically it's about the size of your fist.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Mine was bigger, which is why I had to have it removed. Yeah, it starts, it's that big in its dormant form, right, though. But when there's a kid in there, it obviously things expand and get big. It gets kid-sized is what it does. Yeah. Right. So you get out like that, and then it shrinks again. I guess I'd never thought about it.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But, yeah, I guess it would have to be that small normally. Yep, yep. It shrinks up, and it shrinks up pretty quickly. like those lady parts are very elastic turns out so they can stretch and be and snap right back you guys have cool guts i'll tell i'll give you that i give the women that you have cool guts cool guts well anyway it was unpleasant when i was pregnant with my son because he used to sit right up under my lungs and make it difficult to breathe oh geez so yeah i would uh i'd roll i'd accidentally roll over on my back when i was asleep and i would have nightmares that I was smoking because I physically was having trouble breathing. And so my brain would interpret that as, oh, you're smoking. Oh, weird.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I'm not a cigarette. You are just smoking. Yeah. Smoking hot. Well, you know, in my misguided youth, I smoked some cigarettes. Did you inhale? No. I did.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You know, that was always the dumbest thing about that new story to me. I would have had so much more respect for Clinton if he'd have just been like, yeah. Yeah, we all did it back. So did everyone else. No, and then nobody should have been surprised when he was trying to say, well, it depends on what your definition of is, is.
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's like, no, dude, just say you had sex with the intern and knock it off, you weird old turd. Anyway. Anyway. Let's get to some books. Let's read some books. What are you reading this week? What are you telling people that go out and get?
Starting point is 00:31:17 So today I have, I do, I have a little, you were right, I'm going to do a little reading for you. This was mentioned at our last play date. And so I decided to go ahead and give it a go. And so the name of the book is P is for Terradactyl. The worst, the worst alphabet book ever, all the letters that misbehave and make words nearly impossible to pronounce. Nice. I love this. I'm so glad you're doing that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yes, this is great. So, it's such a fun little book. So the first page is, did you know that there are some really wacky words that start with a silent letter? Most of the time, you can just ignore that pesky first letter and sound out the rest of the word. But be careful. There are other words in this book that don't follow the rules. Look to the back of the book for help with some of the most mischievous words. So, let's see.
Starting point is 00:32:15 A is for Isle The bread aisle Has not been cleaned Ineons And nine tiny beasts Meet to have a feast B
Starting point is 00:32:28 B is for Delium We doubt Anyone knows what Delium is But it's the only word Dumb enough To begin with a silent B That's great
Starting point is 00:32:39 Because I was trying to think All right What's B going to be And I could not think of it So delium Wow, okay, geez Yep, yep. C is for Tsar.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Sh, the fascinating Tsar is secretly part check. And so it goes on like this where it's not just the word that they pick. It's also the sentence that they write is just filled with, you know, those letters that you don't pronounce. My favorite thing in here that they do is when they can't find one, they will, they will, they will do this. So I'll skip forward to F. F is not for photo, phleg, fooey, or phone. That's great. That's great. I never thought of it in that direction, you know? Like, I always think of it the other way. It's like, why is there a P there? And then I, but I don't think about it from the opposite. That's great. I need this book. Give me the name while you're still doing these. Give me the, what is it? Yep, the name is P is for teradactyl.
Starting point is 00:33:41 There it is. Almost the first search it came up crazy. Yeah, and it's available on, you know, the Kindle app and whatnot. So I'll go through and read a few more of these because some of these are really fun. G is for Nyaki. The gnome yells, waiter, there is a bright white, gnat nibbling on my yonaki. Wow. H is for air. The honest air admits that herbalism isn't his cup of tea.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Now, that one doesn't work if you're in the UK because they say herbalism. Herbalism. So is Randy, by the way. As Eddie Izzard would say, because there's a bleeping H in it. And then I is not for I. We asked the pirate if he has two eyes and he said, I, I. I mean, you see, it's just so, it's so silly and fun. I love the art.
Starting point is 00:34:37 The art is great. It's just like kind of purposely crappy art. It's hard to explain. Yeah, exactly. It looks, honestly, it looked like a lot of the, a lot of the stuff that my kids used to get in, when they used to go to religious school, you know, back when they used to do Hebrew school on Sundays. And, you know, when they were little kids and they'd have things that explain like, oh, on this day, we eat halla and here's how you say the homozy. And, you know, and it would have art, it just like this, you know, it just looks like something that a kindergarten teacher would have on our wall. I love it. It reminds me, for some reason, like Zarr, the art on that reminds me of the yellow submarine stuff that Beatles used to do.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Sure. Yes. Yes. Peter Max. Peter Max. Is that his name? I love that stuff. Yeah. Just so weird. It almost doesn't work anywhere else. You have to have the exact right application for that art or else you're screwed. This one's great. M is for mnemonic, but now Mr. M can't remember why. Oh, nice. Nice. This is great. That's great. You know who reads the Kindle version? Oh, I don't.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I haven't heard the audiobook version because I just figured, okay, I'll just read it myself. Yeah, I just looked at the Outerbook, not the Kindle version, because Kindle could still mean the... Right. Yeah, I have the Kindle version, which is what I'm scrolling through it on my iPad right now. Yeah, I'll see. I think Amazon may have a sample. Let me see if I can play it. Do they? They don't. Maybe they don't have an audio version of it. Oh, maybe not. I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I guess the intent with, you know, pre-K readers like this is that you're going to sit and read it with your kid. And I think it's a, in this case, especially because of the silent letters, it's way better as a visual than as an audiobook. Because, you know, H is for air. Okay. Great. But when you see, oh, look at that. The weird H and sitting in the front of there that doesn't need to be there. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. The other fun thing, this also reminded me, there was a bare naked ladies album that came out right at the exact right time for when my kids were small. It was fantastic. It was a kid's album that was called Snack Time. And it had all these really fun original kids songs on it. And one of them was an alphabet song like this. And it was so funny. It was like, you know, they were just singing along.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And then they got to like R and he said, R is for Radon. No, it isn't. Okay, yeah, I know. I couldn't think of one with R. Like, you know, I mean, yeah. I vaguely remember that. What was, oh, it's like, it says 2008.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That was post-Steven Page leaving, right? Yes. Oh, wait. Forcibly removed from the group. He left before 2008. That's crazy. Yeah. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's, wow. All right. I love this whole album and like unironically this is this is like you and blueie Scott like I can I could just listen to these songs like there doesn't have to be a little kid around I love these songs they're great yeah they're almost their mainstream stuff is almost like this it's just you know a little less kid focused but they're always a little they're always kind of telling us fairy tales that band you know yeah they're great and I you know I've seen them in concert a couple times they're fun um But, oh, by the way, speaking of Bluey, thank you, because I was having just the worst day the other day. And it was just one of those days. It was nothing super specific, but it was just kind of everything I tried to do didn't quite go right. You know, it was nothing, nothing to write home about that it was, you know, super tragic or anything. It was just one of those little irritating days.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And I was in a foul mood. And we sat down and we couldn't think of what to watch. And I said, you know what? all right, fine. We're to watch Bluey. And seven minutes at a time, I had my, my bad mood, bad mood. Yes, my bad mood. You're bad mood. It's better than a bad nude. Look, I agree. Look, that show is good for whatever ails anybody, for real. Whether you got little kids or not, it doesn't matter. Sit down and watch some Bluey. It'll turn your day around for sure. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, go, that's, I guess the moral of today's,
Starting point is 00:39:07 segment is go do little kid stuff. It'll make you feel better. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, be a kid again. That's what we're saying. Excellent. Well, it's always good to hear from you. And again, that book is P is for taradactyl, the worst alphabet book ever. It is available hardcover for 12 bucks, about six bucks on Kindle. And I don't think audiobook, but it's there and available free. That makes sense because you're not, you don't sit down with your little kids to read. To listen to an audiobook now. And if you really need an audiobook, just call A.m. me she'll read it to you over the phone. Exactly. Yeah. I'd be glad to be glad to do that. Yeah. It's all good. Uh, well, uh, anything else you want to mention or, uh, promote or say? Yes. So I have all of my
Starting point is 00:39:50 stuff all set up for Vegas. Everything hotel is booked, flight is booked. Nice. All of that is good. Are tickets up yet? No. No. Okay. No. All right. I was just making sure I was like, wait, I don't have those yet. Soon. Soon. Um, I'd love to have that up there. Um, um, but, um, So there's a couple things, factors we have to deal with, but most of it deals with like, what's the swag going to be, how much, all this sort of stuff. So Brian and I should have that figured out pretty quick. Well, speaking, a swag. So last year, you know, I gave out peepers, you know, along with the swag bags. And the little knit.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, and the crocheted frogs were I didn't, you know, obviously I didn't, it's kind of a lot to make. Of course, yeah. No, we did it for producers. Frogs. Yeah. And I made some extras and just kind of handed them out to people who were awesome to me in one way or another. But this year for Christmas, my mom gave me this, I have to send you a picture. It is, it's like a little zipper case filled with all these little small skeins of different colored yarn. And now she's like, now you can make lots of frogs. And so I'm like, oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:41:07 So, yeah, I don't think I can make that many of those type of frogs. But if anybody has any suggestions, anything they would like, any, you know, small little amy-groomy crocheted stuffed animal type of deal, let me know. Send me a message in Discord. And because I'm looking for suggestions because, I mean, there is a ton of yarn in here and it needs to be used. It needs to go somewhere. Yeah. Yes. Needs to make.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I need to make stuff. You could cut it in little six inch lengths and say these are pet yarns and then just put one in every bag. How about that? Yeah. Oh, here's your pet strand of yarn. That's right. Here's a chunk of yarn. Do with it what you will.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, do whatever you want. Make your own weird six inch thing. Awesome. Amy, it's always good to talk to you. Have a fantastic weekend. And we'll see you next time. You too. Bye.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Bye now. Bye. Bye. That reminds me of, I don't know why it reminds me of. I don't know why it reminds me of Dr. Ken, but it does when she does that. Why is that? Is that a community thing? Did he go bye a bunch of times?
Starting point is 00:42:15 I don't know. I don't know why either. Ken Leong. All right. That's that's that. Today we're shifting gears, doing something a little bit different. Wendy is not here. She is traveling about doing some stuff with some friends.
Starting point is 00:42:28 So we are going to have Bobby on today since we didn't have them on Tuesday and get our science in a little late as all. Yeah. No big deal. Oh, not yet, though. Oh, we're doing that before the... Yeah, I don't know why I'm adding him now. Bobby, forget it. Ignore that. I don't know why did that. Someone's very tired. It must be me. Apparently, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:46 We're going to take a break. When we come back, but that'll be the Bobby time. But it's also brought to you by something. Brian, what are we... Who paid for this moment? This moment brought to you and paid for with the hard-earned cash by O'Coverville. Today's celebrating the birthday of Kenny Frickin Loggins. Yeah, the Danger Zone. is going to be featured as the the subject of today's episode of coverville.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Of course, songs like Footloose, I'm Free, I'm All right in the aforementioned Danger Zone, as well as some other things, including a cover by Billy Bob Thornton, singing about Winnie the Pooh. You never thought you'd hear that, did you? And a whole bunch more. That's going to be at 1 p.m. Mountain Time today, Twitch.com. slash coverville Kenny Freakin Loggins
Starting point is 00:43:35 Oh that's great I love I unironically love Kenny Loggins music I have no problem with any of it I would think I think you'd do
Starting point is 00:43:44 to a point he's another one that kind of like like got to an era where it was like oh god another one of these like torch song
Starting point is 00:43:53 pap kind of thing yeah he's like Neil Diamond he goes Neil Diamond or Chicago it was those those covers that were really hard for me to find things that weren't just another person doing a similar torch song cover. But things like, I'm Free, great. Got a nice little metal cover of that
Starting point is 00:44:13 one. And this is it. Got a heavier cover of that one. This is it. You know, anyway. That song's all right. I kind of like that one. Yeah. But you're right. It gets weird toward the end. He got into that light rock. He jumped in with both feet on that light rock thing. Yeah, it's like Peter Satera is their leader, and he just drags all these poor people Yeah, yeah, real bummer. Michael McDonald. I'm going to lead you to the promised land of Light Rock.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Follow me. Just walk back on the river behind me. Love that guy. I'll take you to the bridge that I'm living under. He's the most unique sounding stupid voice of that era. I love it. really is. All right. All right. Well, let's get to today's in the middle. This is
Starting point is 00:45:05 a band called Tiny Microphones. It's not really a band. It's a woman. Her real name is Christine Capua, and she lives at Da-da-da-da-da. And here's her phone number. Just kidding. Christine Capua performs under the name Tiny Microphone, and it's very appropriate because she's got a tiny, sweet little voice.
Starting point is 00:45:21 She originally started recording pop songs on a four-track machine in her apartment in Chicago during the early 2000s, but she's moved to Portland, Oregon in 2018. She started writing, recording new songs, which turned into her second album, Other Cities, which is the brand new one that is going to be coming out this year in 2023. What are we 2013?
Starting point is 00:45:44 2013. 2030. Looking forward to that Avengers 2 coming out next year. It's going to be great. Should be great. Anyway, here is the song, A Holiday, performed by Tiny Microphone. All right. We'll see you guys on the other side.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Hold on to your past because it feels. more real than hope your heart will heal but it still feels cold you remember things that I chose to forget I feel bad taking space in your head
Starting point is 00:46:31 Ooh, because you left up and felt safe with being. Ooh, you got married and's moved to the coast. Isn't it funny that we grew up? Hold on to your past, to home. Suburban skies looking for street lamps, a fleeting feeling to be alone. I remember things that you kept from your new friends. They were some of the best moments we spent. Ooh, because you've left us felt safe with me. Ooh, you've got married that's moved to the coast.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Isn't it funny that we grew old? Give me a reason to believe that we are young and we are free. Leave it alone and let it go. And I'll open an eye, leave it alone, I'll let you... Ooh, because you left up felt safe with me. Ooh, you got married hands near to the coast. You say I miss you every holiday I hope you're doing okay
Starting point is 00:49:13 Are you one of those special gifted people with ESP? Or is what happens to you just a coincidence Now, find out for sure by calling this number and answering some simple questions with your touch-tone phone. You're dying to get me hung, ain't you? The morning stream. Go for the gut. He's soft there. All right, we're back.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Tell me who that was one more time. That you're dying to get me hung, eaches almost sounds like. like our caller from your voicemail earlier. Hey, that, who you heard there is Tiny Microphone. Her upcoming album called Other Cities comes out February 3rd, 2023, and features that single you heard right there, Holiday. Oh, very nice. Do you think I should be annoyed that Carter spent all those two months, 60 freaking days in
Starting point is 00:50:18 Iceland, she never saw Bjork once, not even one time? Should you be annoyed or should she? I feel like she's the one who should be annoyed that... Maybe. I don't think she cares about it the way I do, though. You know, like she went to the place she supposedly hangs out at all the time, but she never showed up. Should I be irritated that you've never seen Post Malone once walking around Salt Lake City? That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I do want that to happen. I need to hang out at the Walmart because he goes and buys magic cards there. That's so crazy. It is crazy. He's always around here. He was on Howard Stern recently, and I guess he says he used to have a major drinking problem, but now he still drinks, but he's smart about it. I don't know what that means. Like, I know a lot of smart drinkers.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I think you're one of them. You're somebody who, you know. I try to be a smart drinker. Yeah. I don't know what that means, but it's an interesting interview. Only two glasses of gin at once. That's a smart drinker. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And spending all your money on magic cards. That's the other smart part. All right. Maybe, you know, if you're still doing that, maybe he really needs to just check in with his sponsor. No, no kidding. I'm spending all my money on magic cards. I think, uh, all right.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Got enough money to buy one of those black lotus cards that cost. let's go to a meeting oh yeah i'm sure he does yeah i guarantee it um all right let's take a look into the future that is now and science with this guy right here oh it's things yesterday here it is science it's bobby frankenberger all the way from south carolina here to talk about some scientific knowledge uh he's usually here on tuesdays but had some stuff with your flying and whatnot you had that today too you're always busy up there flying man you're up there flying well how's that going are you close to your i don't know whatever mega license you're getting or whatever the heck it is mega license yeah no it's just a it's just a pilot's license
Starting point is 00:52:07 yeah yeah i mean it means that this segment is always up in the air that's oh i see yeah i see i like that's pretty good uh it's going well though you're no no big failures no no wiping out in the trees or anything you're good no no nothing no big failures last lesson i did which was on Tuesday was rough I like I I back a little a little bit like in my progress it seemed to fall back a little bit and but that happens you know you guys I'm sure you've had that experience before where you're learning something skill based that requires a lot of practice and everything you you're doing well and and you seem to be making improvement and then you you you have setbacks like you in in your progress and then so was your just your like
Starting point is 00:52:50 a teacher guy or whoever it is that's what you have right like some guys with you a flight instructor yeah flight instructor okay you know teacher guy you know teacher a flight teacher guy so what is he does he how does he let you know that is he like ah you have you slip back a few notches in our in our program oh we're gonna crash you're doing this wrong bobby
Starting point is 00:53:07 yeah yeah no the way it is is he uh he starts screaming and grabs the controls from me no um no he's actually really good and he he he makes he makes me like I'm the one who notices
Starting point is 00:53:23 and he is encouraging and and and lets me know like you're doing fine you know the number of hours you're you've only been flying for X number of time it's you're not expected to to be great at this yet you know like all that kind of stuff this is hard reminding me that it's all very very hard seems like good teaching that's good good method I like it yeah yeah and he notices what's you know we talk through the things that are troubling but I'm usually the first one to to out loud acknowledge because you know it right you you know as you're doing it that you're not doing well it's not like it's not like one of these things that you get done and then you can somehow be tricked into thinking you did a good job when you did it like yeah right like when you land the plane you can tell if you landed it well or not that's a good point yeah the poofs in the pudding there once you land okay can i let me ask you this so in uh top gun maverick there i watched that and I liked it a lot. There was a moment, and I realized these aren't F-16s or newer that you're flying.
Starting point is 00:54:30 There was a thing where a bird went into an engine and started smacking into the wind-shield thing and all that. And it's a thing that happens to planes and stuff. And I knew about that, but they had a term for it. And it was like, getting sullied. Bird strike, was that what it was? Yeah, it was a bird strike. Are you trained in birds? strikes and how to handle them?
Starting point is 00:54:54 No, that would be an engine failure if it happens. Well, that would be the worst case, right, an engine failure. And they do teach you, they do train you to deal with engine failures. But those, bird strikes are not uncommon, but they're not really common. But it's just you'd lump it into all the other things you would do because that's the result of a bird strike is, or that's the worst case scenario of a bird strike is, like, an engine failure. Does it, does it bother you like it bothered me watching it, that we're putting the onus on the birds somehow, like
Starting point is 00:55:27 it's their fault? That's the bird's fault. Yeah, that feels wrong. The bird struck my plane. Yeah, it's us. We're the ones up there doing stuff nature didn't intend. Well, they call it an airplane strike is what they can. Yeah, airplane strike. Airplane strike. Take out Fred. Oh, Wilbur. Oh, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I assume his name is Wilbur. Anyway, well, that's fascinating stuff. What's going on in the science world. I've been paying attention mostly to CES and tech things this week, but I could use a little science. It's a little slow and quiet and science-y stuff, and I've been holding on to something that I planned to do right before Christmas, but you know, of course
Starting point is 00:56:03 I've been, for one reason or another, I haven't been on in a few weeks. But it was, so, here's the thing. I normally on the segment, I try to be, I don't try to be like a well-actually kind of guy, right?
Starting point is 00:56:20 but we appreciate that about you but uh well don't don't yeah don't speak so soon reserve your kudos right right but inside all like science lovers and science communicators there's a little well actually guy there who wants to get out you know but you try to i try to restrain that person but as a christmas gift i decided to give myself a christmas gift which is there's a couple of things that you guys talk about and have talked about over the year that I wanted to clear up. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I wanted to say, let's, let's, either something, either a thing that you're using in the wrong, a term you're using in the wrong way, or something you're not getting right about it. Sorry, we're going to make this fun. I promise it's not just going to be me shaking a finger at you.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Okay. No, no. Start the finger wag, Bobby. We deserve it. The first thing I wanted to go over, this will be a quick one, is you guys talk about the Mandela effect sometimes. We do.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Oh, sure. Yes. And I just wanted to clear up. Oftentimes when you talk about the Mandela effect, you just talk about it like, you use it the same way you would say that you are, you misremember something. The experience of consistently misremembering something is not the Mandela effect. That is just called bad memory. All right. Shots fired.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Okay. Example? Got an example? So that's where I failed. I don't have an example of when you guys did these things. This is just, so I don't have. the proof for you. This is literally
Starting point is 00:57:53 citations are not there. This is literally just me being a jerk today. Sure. No, no, that's all right. You're not. I love this actually. So bring it on.
Starting point is 00:58:03 So the Mandela Effect, it was a term coined by actually a paranormal pseudoscientist in reference to an experience that according to this person claimed that many thousands of people and it gets the name because many, many thousands of people had
Starting point is 00:58:20 allegedly misremembered that Nelson Mandela had died in prison in the 80s when actually he died in 2013. Right. As a, as, so... Is it weird that I never once thought that? Everyone says, well, that's the origin of it. But I never
Starting point is 00:58:36 once went, I thought he died. I knew he didn't. I'd followed it. Just because it happens to some people, doesn't mean it happens to everything. No, but they named it after. But they named it after this. because it affected a small group of people and you're just not in that small group of people right and so the idea of the Mandela effect is that
Starting point is 00:58:56 is that it's it is a false memory but it's a false memory that seems to affect a large population of people in the same way and to help you remember how that is specifically the effect this might help you remember which is that this guy who is a paranormal
Starting point is 00:59:18 pseudoscientist guy, he thought that the existence of the Mandela effect it was evidence for parallel realities. So, so meaning that somehow parallel realities are
Starting point is 00:59:31 touching our reality and causing lots of people. So that's all nonsense, of course, but that might help you remember that's supposed to be. They had a whole episode on this, that John Wilson show on HBO,
Starting point is 00:59:42 where the Mandela effect was the basis of them all meeting at a best Western in like Florida or something. That's right. And they, those people, right, those people did believe in this parallel world kind of thing. You got to watch that, Bobby. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:58 What's the show that you just mentioned? It's called How to with John Wilson? How to with John Wilson, that's it. I always forget the first part. You've mentioned it before and it is one that I want to watch. It's wonderful in a million ways, but in particular, it's his non, it's a self-effacing sort of affable way of walking into situations that are just kind of like what the fricker people do it.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Right. Like, you guys think we talk a lot about Parasite on the show and how I haven't watched it and all of that. Wait until you get to the Parasite moment and John Wilson, how to with John Wilson. Oh, geez. What the fric.
Starting point is 01:00:28 There's part of me that thinks that that scene is one of the reasons you haven't watched Parasite. Part of me thinks the same. Who knows what that part of me will eventually do. But it really stuck with me. You know a part of that guy.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah. We know about the common Mandela effects that people know about, right? It's like Berenstein bears. Yeah, that whole thing. The one that gets me. Darth Vader saying, Luke,
Starting point is 01:00:52 I am your father. Right. Chalet having a hyphen or something or not having a hyphen. I can't even remember what the real thing is. Yeah. We do it all the time with movie quotes and stuff. That's a very common thing.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The one that really got me from this list, the list of common ones, is that because even after I read it, and even now, as I know, looked up the truth, saw that this is correct. I misremember this. I still can't imagine it.
Starting point is 01:01:16 any other way, which is that Mr. Monop, you know, the rich uncle penny bags having a monocle. Oh. He does not have a monocle. No. Yeah. Never did. Mr. Peanut does. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:26 But Mr. Peanut never overcharged you for rent or took your money and sent you to jail. Hey, listen, I got second place in beauty contest. I have no problem with rich uncle penny bags. Yeah, he's fine. Right. He's fine. Bank error was in my favor. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Keep them bank errors. Bank errors happening. Yeah. It's when he told me I could no longer pass go. I felt like I was being repressed. Yeah, that was a little mutt. We came to words after that one. You need to go to jail, Scott.
Starting point is 01:01:55 That's just the way it is. So there's another one. There's, of course, a couple more. So badly remembering crap, bad memory does not equal Mendel effect. Okay, fine. You got us there and that's all. It's okay to have bad memory. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Just cop to it. Just own up to it. Own up to your stupid bad memories is what you're saying. All right. The other one is, so, ASMR. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. You're not the only one who does this, so that's why it also ended up on the list was, I hear you doing it, Scott. All right. I won't eat anything, though, but listen to this. Here's some ASMR for somebody. Here we go. You like that.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I did not need any of that. No. You know what Brian likes, the sounds of eating. or drinking on shows. It's his favorite. Muck bang, like, you know, any of that stuff just drives me bananas. Hitting the bong, chat room, no. That was a stick out of a can. It did sound a little bit like that. It kind of did, yeah. Well, I'm glad. All right. So, tell us about this and how we've got this wrong all the time. So, ASMR, a lot of times when you use, you evoke ASMR, and like I said, you're not the only one.
Starting point is 01:03:12 A lot of people do this, and it irritates me. That's how it ended up on this list, because I had to bring it is ASMR isn't just some noise or thing that you think is relaxing. Yeah. All right. It's not just a really relaxing noise. It's an actual probably neurological phenomenon. And it stands for autonomous sensory meridian response. And it's not well understood.
Starting point is 01:03:40 So we have to say that. But it's sort of like it's been described so. similarly among people that experts and scientists believe that this is likely an actual neurological phenomenon that occurs. And what it's described as this sort of experience of a pleasurable, the physical sensation of it is a very characteristic part of it. It's not just the relaxing, because relaxation is certainly part of it. But there's also this pleasurable tingling sensation in the back of the head down the spine. Some people
Starting point is 01:04:18 compare it to like an... Your arms going up kind of thing. Yeah, some people compare it to like an electrical buzzing feeling in the back of their head or like I said on their spine. Nicole gets this. I've never understood it but she
Starting point is 01:04:33 gets this when she when she has... Yeah, and to be clear, sometimes when you hear ASMR streamers or something like that, it does sound relaxing but I've never experienced this this sensation before. Yeah. But apparently a lot of people do.
Starting point is 01:04:49 So what you're saying is that we tend to, any time we get close into the microphone, it just immediately is, hey, we're doing an ASMR, basically. Well, or what I know, Scott I've heard say before is he'll say, oh, that's my ASMR. Oh, right. To some experience. Some other stimulus.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Right. I will say things, I know I've said this before. I'll say the guy, somebody's voice I really like or something. Like the guy what was he in that I just saw that I really liked his voice. Oh, the Handmaid's Tale this year had this dude that turned out to be
Starting point is 01:05:23 Kiefer Sutherland's brother, half brother, and I didn't know that at the time. But this guy's got the coolest voice and to hear him just talk that sort of thing gets me a little bit. So I think in that even that case I said, oh, that guy talking, that's my ASMR. I probably said those words. And what you're saying is that's just the incorrect use of
Starting point is 01:05:42 the term. Right, right. Because again, it's this neurological sensation. Braembro Bright just said in the chat room that they have that certain songs give them chills. That's not the same
Starting point is 01:05:59 as ASMR either. That's actually a phenomenon known as Frisson or Frisn. I'm not sure how you pronounce it as F-R-I-S-O-N. And a lot of people think that ASMR is related to Frisian. but it's it's that that experience of when when some sort of it can be an emotional thing or certain types of sounds or certain tones of music or genres that will give you a like goosebumps or a tingling feeling in your definitely happens i get that i get that when i listen to a polsom fris and blues every time every single time yeah you don't want to if you go to frisin someone's going to make them your bitch
Starting point is 01:06:40 What, anyway, what I was going to say was... It was a good effort. There's often like a nostalgia tied to that, right? Like, for me, it is. So, like, if I hear a song for the first time, I don't often have that experience. But if I hear something... This actually happened when I was, like,
Starting point is 01:06:56 went down my Neil Diamond rabbit hole two weeks ago and listened to Neil Diamond for three days straight. When I heard Forever in Blue Jeans, and I haven't heard it in, like, 30 years, that did that to me. I was like, oh, yeah, dude. And I don't think if I had that... connection, I would have felt that way.
Starting point is 01:07:12 So I can see why that's not ASMR because ASMR should work no matter when you're being presented with it. Right. You would get that from the first time you heard that song, not just the nostalgia of hearing it again. Right. The list of things that are commonly
Starting point is 01:07:27 known to trigger ASMR are really interesting too, and they also share something in common. So I'm going to go through a list of them. I want to see if you guys can tell me what they share in common. It's not immediately obvious but you might get it
Starting point is 01:07:43 so here's a list exposure to slow accented or unique speech patterns viewing educational or instructive videos or lectures experiencing a high empathic experiencing a high empathetic or sympathetic
Starting point is 01:08:02 reaction to an event enjoying a piece of art or music close personal attention from another person watching another person complete a task often in a like diligent attentive manner and
Starting point is 01:08:18 haircuts or other touch from another on a head or back oh is that why I like you know those head things the wires that you put on your head and it slides down
Starting point is 01:08:30 they look like little spiders I love that dude that's my ASMR see I used it wrong again but that's what I love I love that Those things are pretty cool. I just told you.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I know, I just heard this new information and I'm still using it wrong. But here's the thing though. So for some it's very physical and some it can be auditory or it can be visual. Yep. I'm jealous of those who I'm not jealous, but I kind of wish I could experience it because I don't know. Like you tune into some YouTuber who's like breathing heavy on a microphone and I'm like, who's this working for? And apparently plenty of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Why am I wired so different? different or why is anyone more different I guess I don't know everybody's brains are different so you did you did identify the first thing to notice is all those things are all different sensory experiences and very different experiences altogether right but one thing that they share in common is that they all involve the same some of the same networks in the brain in particular the part that interacts with the environment and other people in a careful and thoughtful way right and so they call it low grade euphoria sometimes this is a thing I've heard is that true is that a fair statement do you think that that makes that makes sense um for sure and so they they've have they haven't done much research into it but there is there are some MRI studies where they had people who were known to experience these ASMR this this phenomenon and they would put them in an MRI and and have them you know, show them things that would make them experience the ASMR phenomenon.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Oh my gosh, that must be hard in an MRI machine. It probably is. There's a lot of things in MRIs and fMRIs that are really hard to do. In some things, you just can't because of the nature of... You get in the tiny tube, eh, eh, eh, eh, the whole time you're in there. I don't know if anyone else has been in an MRI machine, but it sucks. It sucks in there. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:10:34 So they found that, and all the people who said that they do experience, experience ASMR phenomenon that that they show activation in the medial prefrontal cortex, which are areas associated with self-awareness and social information processing and, um, that explains something because the definition or the, the initialism or acronym, however you prefer to say it. I think initialism is correct, though, is autonomous sensory meridian response. The meridian refers to that. The meridian. Probably probably would have said that, the beginning of this segment. Did he? Well, I didn't explain what all the words mean for sure, but Meridian just refers to peak. I think that has to do with the area of the brain. I'm not
Starting point is 01:11:17 100% sure because it might not because Meridian, like ASMR was the term was coined before any of these MRI studies were done. So I'm not sure. The Meridian might refer to the
Starting point is 01:11:33 experience, like the sensation So I'm not totally sure why that word is in there It was coined by someone on a forum somewhere The Wikipedia does not get into the Meridian definition But they use it a lot here That's interesting Okay Yeah so that's ASMR
Starting point is 01:11:53 I would like to say I'm not telling you that you can't use these terms again I just wanted to clear things up Good because of the first thing Because of our bad memory We probably will But also I am one of the first people who will acknowledge that language is a is a is a is a is a cultural experience like it's a
Starting point is 01:12:17 cultural thing so so when when the cultural meaning of something changes you use it in a different way so when you say ASMR in the way that you do Scott saying like oh that's my ASMR people know what you mean right yeah I've conveyed the information I meant to convey exactly yes exactly so but it's still good to understand the stuff you're saying. I think they can do both. I think we can have a fluid language exchange and also a better understanding of the stuff we're saying. I think that's a good company.
Starting point is 01:12:47 If we do it 10% less, then your job will have not been in vain, Bobby. Right. So the last one is not a word that you guys use wrong. It's something I wanted to clear up that comes up every once in a while, but most recently it came up in reference to a mustard keeping you young. Oh, okay. Is that it? Yeah, it sounds like Hocum to me, but you tell us. It sounds like it, it sounds like it, right?
Starting point is 01:13:12 And it has to do with antioxidants. Antioxidants come up, not just with you guys, but everybody talks about antioxidants, right? Sure. So the mustard keeping you young thing, just to cut to the chase and then we can get to the details, it is pure BS. So mustard doesn't keep you young. Mustard is tasty, and I encourage people to eat it. But, uh, but, uh, the only, uh, Garrett, the only appropriate hot dog condiment. I agree. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Yes. A hot dog without mustard is no hot dog. That's right. Exactly. Ooh, I agree with that. That's a good point. Yeah. Let me ask you, but can I ask, you put other things on there and that's fine, but you better, you better, you better start with mustard. Can I ask you about binaural, binaural beats or binaural audio? Do you know what I'm talking about, that whole thing? Um, yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:02 that so binoral audio exists but the therapeutic claims have no that is my that has been my question the whole time because I can tell you this I heard about it what it was what it claimed and I thought okay that's interesting it's a there's no harm no foul put your headphones on listen to a little binoral audio see what happens yeah it just some people claim it just chills them out makes and relax all that freaking stresses me to f out like here yeah here it is right here here Here's a 40-hertz binaural thing. Okay. And if you're listening in mono, this will have no effect on it. This will be nothing to you, yeah. Here we go. Do you guys hear that? I do.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Okay, that's supposedly, oh, I just, it's pooped my pants. It's maddening. Yeah, it's like a brown noise, or brown noise, brown beat, brown, brown note. Brown note, brown beat. Brown beat. I can't do it. I tried, I can't. It's horrendous.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Some people love it. Oh, really? Yeah. It feels calm and soothing to me. But I don't know, you know, am I getting stereo through Discord, or is it? You should be. Discord does stereo. It doesn't do mono, so you should be getting stereo.
Starting point is 01:15:17 But the, here, let me pull this up. I feel like I'm being, like, pressed in, like I'm having. Yeah. Oh, wow, interesting. So one of my oldest friends, he tried to sell me on binaural beats in college. And it was all with this, he had this, like, crazy headset, eyeglasses that you would wear with it and all this kind of stuff. And he swore by it. He'd sit in a dark room and he would be super chill and relaxed because of it.
Starting point is 01:15:46 And I'm like you, Scott, it stresses me out. Yeah. I sit there and I'm like, it feels like, it feels like I'm about to, like, explode out of my skin. Like, it's building up. Something's building up. And I just, like, want to go like, blah! Yeah. It's like, it is.
Starting point is 01:16:02 feels like the pre it's like a prelude to panic is the sound yeah that's exactly a really good way to anxiety inducing interesting yeah and it's not even so much like i wonder if it's because you and i are both like have a history with anxiety maybe um maybe i don't know maybe the um i wonder what the how far away on the sound spectrum that is from the tng ship sound that oh i have that you want to hear that i got that um hold on that that i I'd want to see the waveform comparison between the two, because the thing you played, to me, sounded not the same, not similar, but sounded on that same wavelength. Well, here's engines, let's see. Maybe use a different term than wavelength, but along the same lines.
Starting point is 01:16:49 So this is TNG engines, and this I'd love. Oh, you know what? No, that's more of a, that is more of like a white noise, gray noise kind of thing. I guess it's like a, but there's like a hum of a. is it there's the bridge maybe that maybe that's it without the little computer see that doesn't bother me at all there's a beat to that it's funny you say white noise or gray brown gray noise and stuff like that yeah because those are designed in such a way because and they're named the way that they are because of the way that the uh the frequencies
Starting point is 01:17:23 interact with each other and and amplifier cancel each other out i i'm suddenly can't remember the technical terms for how that happens but whenever the the waves interact, they, they interact with each other and cancel each other out and all this kind of stuff, right? A lot of different noises together will do that. In fact, white noise is called white noise because it's an analogy to white light, where white light is all the frequencies of light. White noise is a bunch of frequencies of sound all. See, and I can't do white noise either. Like people sleep at white noise?
Starting point is 01:17:56 Can't do it. I have to have brown noise. Brown noise is like a deeper, more, well, closer to that TNG engine, kind of a. More bass kind of thing. Right, because some of the harsh, harsh frequencies are taken out. Right. And so... So that seems consistent with the way this stuff makes me react.
Starting point is 01:18:13 But binaural beats are different, especially if you're listening to it in the proper way, in stereo, because they're, like, very different frequencies in different ears, and all it's just weird. It is really weird. How about, would this Star Trek sound make you sleep? Command of the Enterprise. Would that make you fall? I'm falling asleep. That just made me put my pants. Digital Nemoy from the 80s.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Pretty good stuff. But we were talking about antioxidants. We were. Oh, that's right. How the hell did we do that? All right. Antoxidants. Back to it.
Starting point is 01:18:47 So a real quick understanding of antioxidants and the opposite, oxidants. So antioxidants are what are called... Well, so there are things in your body called free radicals or reactive oxygen. species and they're just chemicals that contain free radicals or extra hydrogen that's floating around and they're very the point to know about these chemicals in your body that are natural parts of your body are the free radicals are highly reactive they will they will just react chemically with a lot of different things including DNA and all this kind of stuff and it's just it's just our bodies have them all over it's just a part of our body so these reactive oxygen species
Starting point is 01:19:29 are produced as a natural part of our metabolism they're actually a major contributing factor to aging and disease which is why you hear antioxidants so often associated with keeping you young and healthy because it makes sense right if if these free radicals contribute to aging and disease wouldn't antioxidants which are anti to the oxidants wouldn't that be a good thing right
Starting point is 01:19:57 and on the surface it seems like it would make sense but the thing is our bodies have evolved to deal with antioxidants all in their own that's how we've you know made it as far as we have so there's a sort of what do you call it like an equilibrium
Starting point is 01:20:17 state in your body where it's dealing with antioxidants or it's dealing with the oxidants with its own internally created antioxidants all on its own and on top of that, oxidants just because they contribute to aging and disease and they react with lots of things doesn't mean that they're all bad either, right? Right. They have a purpose. They often are used. They're used in different chemical processes in the body. I don't remember what many of them are off the top of my head, but they do have a purpose. They're used for different things. And so you could argue that, mega dosing on antioxidants could upset that balance that your body is trying to naturally maintain
Starting point is 01:21:03 already but likely that's not going to happen what what really happens is when you take antioxidants your body just compensate says oh okay we've got more antioxidants than usual then we don't you know it it it undergoes its own processes to sort of maintain that homeostatic balance that your body does right um and so it just it's always going to try to keep a balance there. And so therapeuticly. Someone says, hey, our yogurt has antioxidant properties. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Great. Freaking eat it or don't, right? Like, who cares? Okay. That's about what I was thinking. Like, across the board with things like this. When these kind of claims are made, I just kind of go, okay. It's like, it's like probiotics, except for very specific
Starting point is 01:21:51 cases. Probiotics aren't, they sound good. But they're probably not doing anything because your body has its own way of handling those types of things and so so yeah there are there are circumstances for that like um yeah like if you have surgery or something like that um especially like or or in cases of very extreme diarrhea um then uh probiotics have some clinical evidence of of helping with that i love that you giggled immediately get on that activia yeah start listening to jamie lee curtis and get that the poop yogurt going. That's right. Get that poop yogurt going. But, you know, being able to, you're eating the right foods that contribute to good gut health is one thing. And then there are people that end up with like C-DF or some horrible infections. And the only way they can recover from it is some pretty hardcore probiotics. I mean, we're not saying those. So just keep your emails to a
Starting point is 01:22:46 minimum people. We're not saying that. There's extremely examples of all of these things. Right. There are, there are applications. But if you're just like doing fine, but you think I'm going to live an extra 20 years as I take one of these every day, you're probably not. Yeah, and the important thing is the extreme cases where they are good are things that your doctor is going to be involved with. Not, you know, not things that the benefits aren't so widespread that Jamie Lee Curtis needs to tell you about them. You mean, and it's not the kid, it sprouts at the counter that sells all the fru-frou?
Starting point is 01:23:19 That person, I shouldn't trust them. Is that what you're saying? Don't trust them, yeah. Now, things like kombucha do taste good. um and and uh so i'm not saying stop eating some of that kombucha get you a little tipsy if you get the right one they got some they got some kombucha with some high alcohol content so good luck on that that's out there but um in general antioxidants are just like like there's a reason that that your antioxidants when they're being pushed they always come in the form like
Starting point is 01:23:51 when someone wants you to buy antioxidants they always come in the form of like exotic expensive fruits right it's because it's a marketing play and it was thought up in the 80s and 90s back when the research wasn't great for how like we were just learning about
Starting point is 01:24:08 oxidative chemicals in the body and then people were like oh well naturally we must want antioxidants then and then as the research has matured we realize oh it's not maybe that doesn't matter it's not hurting but uh yeah you know well there you have it we've busted some myths today it's what you've done
Starting point is 01:24:30 that's what that's what i'm going to do so i don't like like i said i don't like to do that all the time so that's my one this year and i'm glad we're going to start off the year right with a nice fresh like uh explanation or corrections or just clarification of things yeah i'm going to call you the jimmy heinemann of tms you've you've busted some myths that yeah i don't know if i want that You do have the facial hair for it. Actually, in looking at so many Kenny Ligens albums over the last few days in preparing for this show, he does have the nicely trimmed sculpted beard like our friend here, Bobby. So do you remember when my hair was growing out and it was maybe like ear length and it was big?
Starting point is 01:25:15 I was constantly being told that I look exactly like a young. No. A young George Lucas. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can see that. Oh, interesting. I can see that. Totally could see that. Hey, here's a question for you, just to finish things out with the whole pilot thing, we'll give you a little sandwich, little bun on the bottom of this burger, this tech burger, or the science burger. Do you think there will ever come a time where your flight instructor goes, Bobby, your hair is going to get caught in the fuselage or something? Like, you're going to, is there some hair safety issues or anything? Yeah, when we open the window and I have my goggles and scarf on the wing to adjust the ailerons or something.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Yeah, exactly. You're going to get all gummed up in something or whatever. I don't know. My hair gets caught in the propeller. Sure. I'm just saying, be careful. You never know, man. OSHA's not there to save you.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Oh, my gosh. I thought Brian put a picture of Jesus in the chat, and it's a picture of Kenny Loggins. That is Kenny Loggins. Oh, my Lord. Here, chat, look at this. He's here to save you. All right, just believe in him, and he's yours to save you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Wow. Wow. All right, Bobby, it's always a pleasure. Tell people where they can get more of you and your cool podcast. I do a podcast every week called All Around Science. And we talk about science like the name suggests me and my co-host, Mora. And this one that just came out on Monday, we started it. It's going to be a two-part series, but the first part was on dark matter.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Dark matter. Whoa. What is dark matter? And what do we know about it? Why is Spock so afraid of it? Right. Yes, exactly. Or that was red matter, right? Redmatter?
Starting point is 01:26:52 That was red, was that red matter? Did they call that red matter? I thought it was red, but was it? Well, importantly, dark matter is not antimatter. We talk about that on the show. Oh, good. And why that is and why that's important and a lot of what we don't know about it and stuff like that. And the next week, the second part is we're going to talk about dark energy.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Oh, here it is. Red matter was used by Ambassador Spock in 2387 to create a black hole to absorb the energy of the supernova. of the Romulan sun. Well, done, Scott. Nicely done. And it destroyed, it destroyed Vulcan in the process, didn't it? There's some shit. What happened? That's all actual factual science.
Starting point is 01:27:31 I know. I know, right? 2387. Damn. All right. Bobby, always a pleasure. Have a fantastic week and weekend. And we'll see you next time. Happy New Year to you all. Yeah, you too, man.
Starting point is 01:27:43 You too. May 2023 bring you longer hair and an official pilot's license. Bye now. All right. We did it. Is that canon, though? It's that new time, the Kelvin time. It's the Kelvin timeline, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:57 So it's canon, sure. I still watched, or I watched the final one yesterday. Oh, yeah, the Strange New World's finale. I didn't do the TOS one. Did you watch the other one before it? Not yet. So I'm going to do that after. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:14 On the face of it, and I don't know every little jot and tittle of every single Trek thing ever, but on the face of it, it didn't bother me at all. So I need to, I do need to watch this TOS thing to try to suss out what the problem is. Because I don't, I don't get why there was a problem with that episode. I thought it was actually really good. And if it's time travel, I get that. Like I thought of you a couple of times. But they actually, they actually adhere to your time travel thing, which is, it branches out to its own line.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And there's no going back with this exception that you can take. But it doesn't change the time. you changed. It just changes another timeline, or, you know, a new one branches out, basically. And that all, that all was fine. I don't know what people's problem was with that episode. So I'm going to, I tried to figure it out on Reddit. There's a whole lot of conversation. Yeah, because they do do it right, because they can't travel back to their original timeline. That's my, that's my caveat for time travel. It's not that the branching timelines, I 100% know that as soon as you change something in the past, it does create a new timeline. It's you can't travel back to your original timeline. Once you create that branch, you can only travel back and forth on that branch that you've created. So you won't get to experience the changes in your original timeline. But I just kind of sat through through that whole episode trying to figure out what was wrong
Starting point is 01:29:35 with it. I didn't find anything wrong with it. It seemed fine. I watched a movie last night that I'm not going to use for recommendals, but you would think that a movie that deals with time travel and music and music. causing the time travel would be right at my alley and I actually would be right
Starting point is 01:29:54 I really did enjoy the film I don't know if I enjoyed it enough to recommendal it but I'm going to do it right here because I've got so much stuff stacked up for recommendals but a movie called press play that's on Hulu it's about a woman who finds a mixtape that
Starting point is 01:30:09 left over from her dead boyfriend and when she plays it she can time travel back to the moment that they heard that song together for the first time. So all of the songs that he put together on this mixtape for, she can travel back and be with him again and try and direct him to not do the thing that killed him.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's got Danny Glover. I just noticed Danny Glover's in this? Oh, Matt Walsh. I love Matt Walsh. What's he doing in here? He's great. Oh, yeah, he's great. Never not good.
Starting point is 01:30:45 I love him. But it was a, it was, good. It was really cute. I think it's by the fault in our stars either writer or director or something. I was going to say that has that vibe, doesn't it? It kind of does. The look at the cover, I mean, I guess.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Yeah, but they do a couple things with the time travel that I'm like, yep, all right, that's pretty good. That's pretty good use of the time travel. Anyway. Oh, this is crazy. So the director of this was on fault of our stars, but he was a visual effects
Starting point is 01:31:17 director. oh really is that all that's the only connection yeah because the trailer mentions such and such from the from fault of our story so it's just the visual yeah he did visual effects whatever that would even be in that movie i don't even know what that is that's crazy like why would you promote that yeah no kidding i mean there are some great visual effects but is this something kim would like it seems romanticy oh she would like it and i think you know to some degree if you're if you're drawing or doing something while you're in the room while kim's watching kim would love it it. Tina really liked it. Okay. If you're in the room while Kim's watching it, you'll probably get a kick out of it, but you don't need to devote 100% attention to it. Well, she, so she's an interesting litmus test because right after we finished Star Trek, Brave New, or Strange New Worlds, she's like, maybe I'll just, until we're waiting for
Starting point is 01:32:07 that season, I'll just finally watch Discovery. And I'd already seen it. So I said, yeah, that's fine. So I sat and kind of played my Steam deck while she watched the first couple episodes. She got two or three, and she turns to me, and she goes, you know what the problem of this show is and I said what and she goes you can't have a Star Trek show where the captain sucks oh yeah no kidding it's a mistake and I and I agree with her I think the biggest fault of of Discovery because I think Discovery has amazing moments and it has one of my favorite Star Trek characters ever in um what's his name the tall guy uh oh uh Saru uh Saru is it is it Saru okay yeah Sorry, I love, love that character. He is one of the most cool character.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I mean, it is the most Star Trek-ass character. I love him, love him. But there's a lot of problems, and the biggest chief problem, especially in the early goings of it, were the captain needs to be in Star Trek. The captain needs to be optimistic, reliable, benevolent. Not necessarily infallible, but also open-minded. Right, right. And always, always aiming for the right thing, even if they fail. you know this sort of thing he has to be a reliable narrator and if you don't have that that's a
Starting point is 01:33:21 problem in that world and i think that they you know i think that's a problem and i think strange new worlds obviously fixes you don't want to believe that there's a vetting problem in starfleet that they're just not able to suss out the psychological profile of a shitty captain yeah no kidding especially borker yorka borka what's his name gorka whatever it is yorka the one played by uh the guy. Anyway, it's just an ass and it's like you can't have a captain be an ass in Star Trek and they fix that with
Starting point is 01:33:53 Pike. Pikeism is exactly what you want. Pikes. Pikes great. Archer. Great captain. Great. All the you know what, even Cisco, Picard, they got all that. Kirk, they're flawed, but they're great men. They're great women. Janeway, same thing.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Leave the shitty captains to the expanse and to a little bit of Battlestar galactic at times, not Adama. No. He was great. Not the admiral. Yeah, but other people like exactly. There's room for that kind of storytelling. I won't have a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:34:25 It's just, this is Star Trek. It is about that optimistic humans exploring the universe and bringing with it the best that we can bring with it. That's what it is. So you can have all your conflicts and stuff. Brave New World. Strange New World's got that right. Discovery screwed up
Starting point is 01:34:43 on and it bums me out anyway yeah uh so she's gonna still watch it because she's like in the mood for star trek right now so i told her i it does and it does get better that show got better in season two i thought it did it did it's had its ups and down up and down seasons it just when it gets a little too heady and and uh too full of itself that it just gets a little too preachy and drawn out and yeah yeah and she's just like it's so negative sometimes i said i know that's the problem that's the problem. That's going to do it for the show, but we do have a couple of quick things. I've got some shows coming up.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Coverville this afternoon. 1.30 is it? Or 1? 1.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.com. Why do I still say 1.30 all the time? Should I just change it? Would that be easier for you, Scott? No, I just don't. Why? Did you used to do it then? Or I made that up this whole time? I'm trying to remember. I don't ever.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I might have been. Listen, I've been doing this damn show for 14 years. It just seems like we used to announce it that way And I don't know why it's stuck in my damn stupid head But yeah There might have been a 30 in there at one point Well anyway, do that Get your music on today And then later we got Core
Starting point is 01:35:52 Tonight at 5 p.m. This will be our first show of the year And we're giving away that big monster doghouse system Right tonight's the night Woo! Tonight's the night we got thousands of entries So sorry about the odds But one of you
Starting point is 01:36:04 That's all right That's all right One of you are going to win I like never tell me the odds Scott But no, seriously, because then that way I feel like, well, if by some stroke of luck I win, you can easily go, oh, somebody I've never met named Shmryan Shmibbitt, just one. Congratulations. Yeah, he's from Longmire, not Colorado, has one. Anyway, gets the connection tomorrow at two. So that's another fun thing you can do.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Do that right before couch party. Win a prize. Win some fun stuff. I think I'm giving away a Wakanda Forever hat, baseball cap. Nice. That'd be great. Couch party at three. I think we're going to continue Doom Patrol. Cool. I want to do that. And film sack this weekend. We are doing moonfall, finally. And I say finally, the movie's not even a full year old. No. Now, finally doing, we've been, you know, since I saw that original trailer, since any of us saw it were like, film sack. Yeah, we have to do it. It's an Emric movie. Those don't get skipped. We do those. So anyway, in this weekend, that's happening. Of course, Skim today. as well. Kim and I will be sitting down for a skim episode. I think that's everything. We'll take
Starting point is 01:37:12 us out with an email from Michael in Colorado Springs. Uh, he sent an email to the morning stream at gmail.com. It says, hello, Stoja and Bullman. I don't know what that is, but we'll figure it up. I was provided this address as a place to register a complaint. Here is my complaint. I am not completely cranky old man. I'll give you 15 minutes, which is extremely generous to celebrate you want to do you want to where you get those names? What's that from? Those are IKEA products. Oh. Oh, I love it. All right. Sorry. Continue.
Starting point is 01:37:41 What a funny reference. That's great. Call back. Yeah. Says, I'll give you 15 minutes. It was extremely generous to generate and blow off your fireworks at midnight on January 1st. If you're still shooting fireworks at 1230 a.m., you are being an inconsiderate dick. Try thinking of someone other than yourself now and then, and my dogs would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. I just had to get that off my chest, Joe Uncool in the Tadpool, Michael in Colorado Springs.
Starting point is 01:38:06 He's not saying we're doing this. Matt. He's saying, he just wanted a place to be able to vent this. And you know what? We agree a thousand percent with you, dude. Yes, exactly. Get your legal fireworks out in a safe place, not near any brush or dry grass or anything like that. But yeah, come on now. Yeah. Don't do it a minute. 15 is enough. It's plenty. And look, I got lucky. I have two dogs that don't care about fireworks, but I know people have dogs with terrible reactions to them. And I feel bad for them. Daisy was that way, right? Yeah. Daisy was until she went deaf. That was kind of like the blessing, the bittersweet blessing of her going deaf was that thunder and fireworks didn't phase her at all anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Is that how you knew? When did you know she was going deaf? Was it just she wouldn't answer to her name? She wouldn't answer, like she would, even just noises wouldn't have any effect. So like if Tina dropped something on the floor, notice I say Tina dropped it, not me. If she drops something on the floor, Daisy wouldn't like immediately turn to look or things like that. It was a slow, I'm sure it was a slower process than we realized because it wasn't just, boom, she's deaf, although we do think she had a stroke at one point. Oh, I don't like to hear that.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Which might have actually had a little bit of that. Yeah, I imagine so. Well, thank you very much, Michael, in Colorado Springs. If you'd like to send your emails into us, you can. That email address once again is the morning stream at gmail.com. Keep those texts flowing as well, 8014710462. and join us on Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS.
Starting point is 01:39:39 If you've not yet done it, please hop in there. We haven't had a new guy in a couple of days. I would love to say your name and to reach out and tell you how much we appreciate your support. Thanks to everybody who already does. You guys are amazing. That's patreon.com slash TMS. We're going to get out of here now. Brian has to play a song to make that happen.
Starting point is 01:39:54 What do you have today to play? I do and I will. This one's going out to Barbara. The date of my birthday, January 6th, has been sullied by the events in the Capitol two years ago. This year, I'd love to hear a song about celebrations or moving forward for getting the past. Something upbeat, maybe in the style of bluegrass, since my birthday falls on a Friday this year, whenever you can get to it will be perfect. I leave it in your capable hands. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:40:17 You should say birthday, eh? Hold on a second. Here you go. Let's party. There you go. Happy birthday. It gets shorter and shorter every time I hear. Let's get to this one.
Starting point is 01:40:31 This one, maybe not necessarily about a party or celebration, but it makes me smile every single time I hear it. The harmonies are tight, and we love each and every one of these people that you're about to hear in this song. This is a cover of the Steve Young song that the Eagles took and popularized. It is Paul and Storm and Jonathan Colton and Sarah Watkins all joining together to just crank out some incredible harmonies. It's a cover of Seven Bridges Road, a little bit of bluegrassy.
Starting point is 01:41:01 guitar in there for you, Barbara. Hope you enjoy it. And this coincides with another request that came in, I think, while we were out with Scott's COVID or whenever it was that we never got to. So Paul and Storm, Jonathan Colton, Sarah Watkins, come on. That's like a perfect storm right there of musical acumen. Here is Seven Bridges Road. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:41:24 We'll play it. And not to be confused, by the way, with the original. It's not Steve Young, NFL great Steve Young. It is not NFL great. it's Steve Young. Okay, fantastic. Just looking for a cheap Utah connection there. There you go, everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll be back tomorrow. No, sorry. Yeah, tomorrow with the playday. We'll be back tomorrow for patrons only. Couch party. Better jump on the, uh, better jump on the patron wagon. That's right.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Still time. If you get in now, you're in. So hop in. And otherwise, we'll see the rest of you on Monday. Have a good weekend. We'll see you then. Southern sky Southward as you go There is moonlight and moss in the trees Down the sand Seven bridges roam. Now I have loved you like a baby, like some known, some child,
Starting point is 01:43:00 child and I have loved you entertainer and I have loved you while sometimes me has to turn from here and go running like a child found these warm starts
Starting point is 01:43:49 down the seven bridges wrong There are stars in the southern sky. And if ever you decide, you should go. There is the taste of time, sweet and honey, down the seven bridges road. Sarah Watkins, Paul and Storm. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frogpants Network.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. He's a loom. Mm-hmm.

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