The Morning Stream - TMS 2406: Feetures include Paytoween!

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

Stick It in Mien Kampf! URL the Porn Dog. Kim Paid Veronica. NDBA: None Disclosure Burger Agreement. All of the Audiobooks are available in print form. Scott's Indecent Proposal Dream. Play games with one hand! Everybody is, Shame Foo Fighting. There were TWO heists. Respect the Weird. Does porn have a smell, cuz I like really wanted to know. Once, Twice, Three Times a Dude Lady. Can someone tell me why this sucks? The following safety manual has been brought to you with limited interruption by Amy. I Pity the FOO with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Scott's Inns. decent proposal dream. Play games with one hand. Everybody was shameful fighting. There were two heists. Respect the weird. Does porn have a smell? Because I'd like really wanted to know.

Once, twice, three times a dude lady. Can someone tell me why this sucks? The following safety manuals been brought to you with limited interruption by Amy. I pity the foe with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Can't believe people don't realize? The Doritos Locos Taco from Taco Bell has now lasted longer than the entire Confederacy. It means that has more merit to have its own flag

than the one flying behind your neighbor's truck. The blood of your anus can never be destroyed. The morning stream, they've gone to plaid. Good morning and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, January 12th, yes, 12th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian David. Hi, Brian. Oh, hi. Oh, hello. Oh, funny meeting you here right as we're about to do a show. How weird. How long have you been standing here? How very unusual. So we got to start right off with a very effed up dream. Yeah, all right. I've got to share with you guys. Before it leaves me, because it's all just, fleeting now. I can feel it leaving me. I'm never going to remember it again. But man, what a stupid night of dreams I had. And I don't know what caused it. I didn't eat before bed. I didn't do anything to give me weird dreams. They just happened. Sure. In this dream, Veronica Belmont featured in the weirdest way. Kim paid Veronica. I don't know how I know this,

because in the dream I didn't know, but I know this. Yeah, you know, well, okay, all right. Like I have an omnipotent view of the dream, but also a down-in-the-thick-of-it view of the dream at the same time somehow. It's really weird. Anyway, Veronica Belmont was hired by my wife to try to seduce me. Don't tell Veronica this, all right? I don't think we should tell Kim this. I'm even afraid of you tell him the audience this. I told Kim this, and she's like laughed and said, what are you even doing?

I said, I have no idea. Oh, there it is, the long one. There it is right there. Sausage. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so that was her deal. Play that a couple more times and Tina wouldn't need to pay anybody. That's right.

But it didn't end up happening. It's this, the dream just featured this subplot, but it never went anywhere. Okay. So that's one thing. Then there was this burger place. I should say overall, my sister was in charge of everything somehow. Don't ask me how. Just knew that Misha was in charge of everything.

And I don't know why. Okay. My sister, Misha. She often is in family stuff, so maybe that's why. But anyway. Really? Okay. Interesting. She's the one that take the reins and sort of like say, hey, we got to get planning.

We're going to do this and that and all that. So sometimes that's her. But anyway, then we get to this weird part of this dream where we're on some sort of vacation at a place that's like huge. And in the center of it is a burger place everyone really wants to go. And I don't remember the name of it, didn't have a name, I guess. But it was this place where you just were like, oh, you got to get burgers there. And when we ordered our burgers there, they said, no problem. We'll text you.

give us your number. We'll text you as soon as these burgers are ready. And because they take a while. And I'm like, all right, cool. Text us, I guess. So then we go off and we do whatever the dream does. And then in the dream, time has gone too long. And we don't know why they're not texting us. We're like, well, they have to be done by now. Why haven't they? And we kept letting it go and going, like hours go by. Yeah. We're like, well, our burgers are what happened. They screwed up. Something's wrong. So we go back. And it's me and Kim. We go back to our burgers and they say they're just sitting around and I said oh did you did you forget to tell us you know all this and they go uh no uh the problem is you didn't sign the uh you didn't sign the waiver

and I said what waiver and I was all confused I said what waiver and they said the waiver that says that you understand that the guy that's three or sorry the lady that's three people down on this bar over here is really a lady it's not a guy and you have to say you have to put on paper that you agree that is not really a lady, that's a man there. So these are, so in my head, I'm going, what is this like an anti-trans burger restaurant where you have to sign, sign off on this? Is it a hobby lobby now have a burger restaurant? Yeah, exactly.

What are I in a chick filet? Yeah, they've expanded their reach and now they own this. But anyway, so I was like, I have to sign this. Like, it was so confusing to me. And so I didn't sign it. Oh, and then while I'm sitting there and they're trying to talk me into it, they're showing me photos, the conspiratorial photos of, I don't even know what, like it's all just a blur to me, but it was like, uh, yes, and here is, here is when the secret government rose up and did the thing and the stuff and then showed me another photo and said, uh, yes, and here's another deep state, something, something. It was like some kind of just conspiracy field thing. It was all in an effort to get me to sign this thing to say that, well, that's definitely a dude or a lady, not a dude, or whichever direction it was. Or I guess it was a lady who, look who I was supposed to say was a dude and then I never did I refused to do it what did you say somebody born a man and and was transgendered woman or okay all right no idea man this dream was

like freaking it made no sense to me and as I'm doing as I'm waiting for this I'm like I'm hungry but I don't know if I'm this hungry this is too weird why does anyone like this place and they're like oh but you'll never have a greater burger you just need to sign you just have to sign to have this burger and we said i don't want to do this and right about then i hear van behind me yeah going pops like kind of sad so i turn around and van standing there covered in urine just covered head to toe and pee yeah i don't know i have no idea he's covered in pee and he looks all upset and he's holding his arms out like this like he just can't move he doesn't want to move or whatever and that's the dream that was it

bizarre. It was so freaking weird, man. I did not want to go back. I woke up at about five or something, and I said, I don't want to go back to that. I don't want to do that again. That was lame. That was a stupid dream. It made no sense. And I told Kim about it this morning. She's just looking at me, like, what are you eating at night? Like, what are you doing? I'll just say, I don't know what we have on tap for therapy Thursday, but there's no way that it's more important for us to tackle than all this. I really do. I really do. I mean, I don't know. Dreams are probably not that big a deal. And maybe it's just this was a big venting maybe, you know, how your dreams are good at like just clearing you out or whatever. Maybe that's all I was, I was waiting for because my dreams have been kind of nonchalant lately.

But man, this thing does make no sense. I think we need to take those dreams. cards that I sent you. I need to send those back. Let me see if Hunter S. Thompson makes a set of those. Yeah. We need a hardcore, we need a harder core edition of those cards. Right.

Holy crap. Someone on drugs needs to make those. Like Hunter S. Thompson. That's a good call. Like Hunter S. Thompson. Yeah. He did a lot of drugs, that guy and that fella. See, you watched, you had your weird dream tonight.

I didn't put this in opening topics or top topics or top of the show or whatever. Tina and I finished a show last night that I want to recommend it, but I'm not sure. I'm not going to recommend it because I'm not sure why it's got the rating that it has on Rotten Tomatoes. High or low on Rotten Tomatoes? Low. I, okay, so Tina and I watched the Giancarlo Esposito new series on Netflix called Kaleidoscope. Oh, the one that you can jump around in. watching any order, right?

Technically, you don't jump around. Netflix serves it to you in a random order, except for the final episode. Right. And I think, looking at Rotten Tomatoes, I think most of the people's complaints are, it's a dumb gimmick. Oh, it's a dumb gimmick, stupid gimmick. But I really enjoyed the hell out of the show. Like, I'm a big, I love heist shows.

I mean, I watched all the damn seasons of money heist. You know, which was, which eight seasons and they actually robbed two things, I think, is the deal. Wow. That's a long buildup to the heist. I might be exaggerating the number of seasons, but I'm not exaggerating the few things that they robbed. Wow. Two heists. That's all you get.

Yeah, you get two heists. But you get really good, clever heists. And the way money heist does it, always did it was, oh, no, looks like they're about to get caught. Oh, wait, let's have a flashback. to how we thought this would happen and we planned for it. Like, you know, three or four times a season, they'd have something like that. Weird. And, you know, it's like, all right, well, that's a little bit cheesy.

In this case, in the case of kaleidoscope, I really like the heist. I think the heist was clever, but more than that, I cared a lot about the people. Giancarlo Esposita, obviously, a dude can do no wrong, as far as I'm concerned. Sure. Yeah, he's great. I like him and everything. He's in everything. I should say I like him and everything. He's actually in everything. The dude has a great agent. And he's kind of your Danny Ocean. He's your, you know, your guy that brings everybody together. You've got Paz Vega. You've got Rufus Sewell, Sewell, as the dude who... Ooh, all-time fan here. Love him. Yes. And he's the dude who gets robbed. Love that guy. Yeah.

He's Open Bougainfuer or whatever's name was in Man of the High Castle. Man of the High Castle. He's also the main guy in Dark City. Bougain Fowler. His Dark City movie is underrated. He's so cool. Love that guy. Oh, he is great.

And then J. Courtney, or J. Courtney, you know him from Terminator Genesis. Well, you know from Suicide Squad probably most recently. All right. The Suicide Squad, I should say. Corrections. The Suicide Squad. The good one. It's with the Hall they call it.

The good one. Captain Boomerang and the Suicide Squad. Oh, he's Boomerang guy. He's Boomerang. Yeah. Sweet. Anyway, I really enjoyed this and I feel like, what am I missing? What am I missing that 50% of the people on Rotten Tomatoes?

Yeah, both audience and critics and audience. Yeah. Both of them sitting right at like 48, 49% right there in the middle. And I don't get, I don't understand. Yeah. It's interesting because. I've been reading a lot of independent reviews about it and people say it is somebody said the first great television experience of 2023 has arrived kaleidoscope is insanely good well it's like January 12th that's what I'm saying it's hard for it to be hard for it to find a better like all right this is the yeah I know you're literally almost the first just in general you're almost the first but but you know like I heard nothing but good things online and then this is the first I'm seeing this this horrible uh conglomerations

of reviews. You're right. It's weird. Yeah. It's really weird. I will say the gimmick is unnecessary. It just, you know, basically you might get the day before the heist. The heist itself will always be the very last

episode. Right. But you'll get like three weeks before the heist, seven years before the heist, two days after the heist. You'll get those episodes in a random order. And it's kind of cool to see oh, wow, this happened? I won't wonder how we got to there that's kind of cool so couldn't they have done okay let me ask you

this question this maybe is a dumb question maybe it isn't isn't doesn't that isn't that there's a perfect order in there somewhere and that all this randomness is actually kind of dumb they just need to pick a like a yeah i don't know if there is a perfect order the order that we saw it in uh it's funny it served it to us in a very like almost like the right order buildup of like, all right, we got, I think we got, uh, four weeks before the heist and then seven years before the heist. And then, and then the rest of them were kind of in order, including post-heist stuff. Okay. Okay. Uh, that felt fine. You know, I don't, I don't think there was, like, I'm trying to think of anything that was introduced.

It was like, oh, no, that would have been so much better if, if we saw this before this other thing. Yeah. No. Did it make you want to rewatch and see you it did the next time at all, or is that not part of this? No. No. I don't think it's, for me, it doesn't have a rewatchability, but very few things do. No, that's true. Like, there's some shows I can watch three or four times over, but it's rare, right? Yeah. I don't have time. I have a list a mile long of things that I want to see. So watching anything a second time, you know, I finally saw Eternals for the second time. And I kind of liked it more of the second time, folks. Yeah, you take it out of the second time.

the hype bubble it's supposed to be better you do that and that's like a lot of things though video games it's a beautiful it is a beautiful movie yeah well i kind of i think i'll still see this this is how many episodes eight eight episodes technically nine but the first episode is a one-minute thing uh from netflix saying we're gonna present these episodes to you in a round the border oh so they actually warn you okay yeah that's interesting warn or you know play up the gimmick or that's interesting because they are the ones doing this weird shit right they did the thing with the choose your own adventure kind of what was that called bandersnatch bandersnatch yeah nobody else is trying this weirdness you know the only other one i can think of uh they tried to do it with kimmie schmidt like they tried to do a

kimmy schmidt follow up movie that was like that but both of those things were technical technological challenges if you weren't on a device that support it. Like if you watched on your iPad and then projected it to your TV, totally fine. But if you try to watch it on an Apple TV, you couldn't do the, you couldn't do the choose your own adventure. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't realize that. You'd think they'd want to do that.

I don't know what they'd want to do. That's interesting. And also, didn't love death and robots have a weird order thing that happened there? Am I remembering that wrong? Oh, I think we did. figure out that they were giving us episodes in a different order. Yeah. You were getting episodes. It was almost like it was on shuffle, but completely, not necessarily on shuffle. So less of a point to it, but it was not coming to you at the same time. Because I would say,

oh, episode two is great. And you'd say, oh, I thought that was kind of weird. And it turned out we weren't even talking about the same episode or something because they were shuffling them, which is weird. Right. Right. I mean, I respect it. That's weird. I respect the weird attempts to change it up. You know, give us something clever. In this case, you know, in this case, it makes sense. It's like, oh, okay, yeah. Seeing this heist planning and what leads up to the heist in a different order kind of makes some things differently suspenseful.

Like, oh, gosh, what about this? What's in this other vault? Or what's going on here with this guy, this character? What's his secret past? And then, oh, like, you get this other secret past. And the fact that they plan it so that the heist itself, answers all the questions that are set up by all seven of the previous episodes. I actually really do like that.

I don't know. I mean, I guess I like the concept, but what does it matter if you're not going to watch this over and over again to have this different order thing? Interesting. I was reading a review here and that said the word, they used a word. I'll ask you before I say it because maybe this is spoilery. Is a certain weather pattern a spoiler as a thing they used? No, there's a storm.

Okay, so there's a hurricane they have to deal with. I love the idea of whether you're using weather, if you can predict it well enough, using weather as a cover for your big freaking crime. I think that's always fun. It's great. And it's done in a way that, of course, you know, seven years before the heist, they weren't saying, oh, let's do it on this day because there's probably going to be a hurricane that day. Right.

That would have to come way late in the game, I assume. So it does, yeah, it does come way late in the game, and it's like, oh, crap, we, you know, I don't know if we can do this. Wait a minute, we might actually have a weather thing that if we, if it lands on the right day, we can use it to our advantage kind of thing. So not, I'm stopping before any other spoilery stuff, but yeah. Is there a little Asian guy in a food cart? There is not, but there is a food cart. There's actually a bunch of little things in a food cart. Really?

Funny enough. Or in a cash like a. kind of the same kind of thing that was in Oceans 11 with a little it was like the money rolly cage thing Gotcha gotcha I loved it

It's always my favorite part of that movie Yeah I don't know why I always bring it Anyway so it's called kaleidoscope It's shit out of luck.com It's called kaleidoscope It's on Netflix I really enjoyed it

And I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out I'm not dumb because I enjoyed it And that's the one thing you worry about When you see something you like On Rotten Tomatoes and it gets crap. Usually when it's like, yeah, when it's this disparate.

It's one thing if you felt 98 and they said 82, that's fine. That's a margin we can deal with. But if you say, if you say 95 and they say three, something's up. Exactly. And I'd say, I'd say 80 and they're saying 50. Yeah. High 40s. That's a big chunk.

That is a big, that's a big gap. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe Brian's got to worry. Is it like, is it people who just hate, something that's getting a lot of hype and attention. Not that this is. I don't think Colitiscope is getting a ton of attention.

I don't think so either. Yeah. Plus, you, you know, I could see that from the audience, because the audience usually are the ones that react to those kinds of things, whereas critics are usually not. Critics don't, yeah. I don't know. I don't know, man. It's an anomaly. It's what we found. But there were people in the

chat that said they enjoyed it as well. So you should watch it too and let me know what you think. I definitely plan to. And when I'd seen all the hub up about it, I immediately thought of you because I went, oh, they're gamifying a heist movie. Did they call Brian and ask him what he'd like?

My gosh, that's it right there. I just got, this is just breaking, late breaking news, just got an email. A game developer who I will not name. I won't even say the name of the game because that'll give away who they are. I just don't want them to think of slamming on him here, but I got a, sure. I got a

code for a game and here's what it describes it as. I get the here and there for core and stuff you know play our game we'd love to hear about it on the show that kind of thing this was this one says swap the tiles to restore the pictures and reveal the naughty girls and then here under reveal the naughty girls under features it's spelled F-E-E-E-T-U-R-E-S so spelled wrong with features oh features no maybe they it's about feet oh F-Trentino's a slighty number puzzle game there you go it's feet features. It says here 15 girls to be experienced.

Browse Gallery with one hand. Oh, come on now. Oh, no. They don't really say this. It does say this. Absolutely says this. Play games with one hand. Mild level difficulty. Nice artwork and music. That's the entire message. And a code. I have a code to this game. And a code. So is it, so it's an iOS game? No, this is a Steam game. Yeah. Yeah, it's on Steam. I'll send you the name.

I'm not playing anything on my Steam deck one-handed with the weight of that thing. Yeah, no, that's true. Snap off, break a controller or something. Have you got yours back yet, by the way? Oh, yeah, I got it back on. I got it fast. I got it right before Christmas, which surprised me. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, I've been using it like crazy since. And I have a rad new game. I think I need to recommend to you and everybody who's got a deck. Or even just Steam. It's an amazing indie. Oh, cool. Good. I love it so much.

I love hearing that. it later. But anyway, that's the name. I just put it in Discord. That's the name of that stupid game. The one that I just got... Not the good game. Not the one I want to recommend, but this terrible one that's the one that's the one that features. Yeah, the features. Anyway. What about the first two? I know. I know. This was a third in the great series of these games. Obviously, it's done well enough for them to do, you know, to do two more. I'm always surprised what's available on Steam, if you really look. There's, like, the weirdest thing.

That thing I talked about last week, the Sex with Hitler 3 is real. That's a real game or two, I guess, the sequel. There's a million. See, there's another one. Apparently, if Sex with Hitler 1 does well enough, then they'll be a two. Yeah, and it reviews, it's reviewed well. People, you know, don't like it. I don't understand, though.

What would you do in the second one that you couldn't do, like, more sex with Hitler? Hitler lets you go further this time. I guess so. I don't know how do you take those games and make them bigger? I don't know. I don't even know why they're a thing. Like, and most people... The things Hitler said he wouldn't do in the first game, he now lets you do.

That's right. I think most people, I think by default, your account on Steam doesn't have this category at all. You have to, like, know about it or search for it or whatever. So it's this weird, like, kind of dark web sex game thing people have. It's weird. Yeah. Very weird. All right.

Anyway, let's move on. No judgment, you know, whatever. You do what you do at home. I'll let you put it in my Kampf. Mine Kampf. My Kampf is open and ready. Oh, that's funny. I like that a lot.

That was good. Quick shout-out text I would like to do because I missed it yesterday. This came in as we were rolling into the show so we didn't see it. So I don't know if it'll even work today. But Colin. Yes. Well, okay, here's the message. message. It says, hello morning stream. I have a whole family in the car today as we trek

to Arizona for my wife's 30th birthday. And I thought it would be really cool for them to hear this shout out. My kids, Tilly, and Milo and my wife, Johnny, are often forced to listen in car rides to this show, I assume. Not sure if I can make a birthday song request, but here, you can play Hello, Hello, Hello, by Remy Wolf. Happy Birthday, Johnny, love your co-pilot, and venture forever, Colin. So, Colin, I'm sorry about the day late thing. I didn't know. I would done this live, but I didn't see it until after the show yesterday. So, uh, my apologies, but you do get one of these for your wife. Let's party. You don't get the Remy Wolf song, though. You don't get the Remy Wolf song, A, because it's not a cover, B, because, uh, I don't think

I could get away with playing Remy Wolf for indie in the middle. I love Remy Wolf though. My God, I'm such a fan of her, her, uh, her wackiness, her shouting for, please, please, Please, please. She's great. She's great. Nothing wrong with her. And in her videos, she looks like she's just a nut. Yeah, a little bit of a wakadoo.

A little bit of a wakadoo. But happy birthday, Colin and, no, happy birthday, Johnny. And hey, Tilly and Milo, hope you had a good trip. And maybe you're listening to this on the drive home. Yeah, maybe on the drive, the horrible 12-and-a-half-hour drive home. Right, exactly. Thank you for that. Let's get on with the business here at hand.

We got a guest coming up, as you know. Hold on here. Amy comes on. We talk about books, reading and stuff. And today, I think we're going to get a manual reading again. Those are always fun. I wanted to read a manual. Your car has four things.

The following safety. That's right. Did you bring your manual, Amy? Are you here with your manual? How's it going? I did. I brought my Steam Deck user's manual. Oh, very nice.

Oh, excellent. I thought I could read that. Ooh, did you nab the super secret cool steam deck thing? Did you get one? She did. She was the first person to purchase one. And because of that, you were, yeah. You were the first one.

You were the first one. And the benefit of that is that you get to help me test this method of shipping that I'm using and this padded envelope to make sure that it's going to work. These things are solid. Like, you know, I can't break it, trying to break it in my hand. So I'm hoping that the U.S. Postal Service It doesn't employ stronger methods to try and destroy it. They got some beefy men.

Here, let's try and break this. Yeah, let's see. I bet we can break this. Feel it through the bag. Yeah, it's totally bendable and breakable. It does look pretty solid. You do have that one point of a possible smush. Leverage.

Exactly, right, where you separate Brian and Scott from the rest of the device. I love that. Yeah, they look really cool. If you're all wondering why yesterday we didn't make a giant. noise about it is because y'all bought them already they're sold out for now for now for now yeah and it's and it's less a matter of something because obviously i just built i just make them to order but right now if you were to place an order it would be i wouldn't be able to ship it before the etzy cutoff date of like all right you better ship or we're going to give you a bad seller rating

so yeah uh so we'll talk about it on the show next week yeah and etzy only takes like 84% now it's fine they're there it's a very generous very generous split over there it is very generous yeah so i get oh i get eight cents for this all thank you for thanks a lot thanks antsy generous yeah thanks for the storefront uh anyway hey amy let's talk about some some reading she comes on the show and recommends books and all that stuff what do you have today i do well i have a little bit of housekeeping um that i need to bring up so one of the people who responded to very kindly responded to our survey back if you remember the end of last year. We did a survey. And they expressed, I don't have it in front of me else I would

read it directly to you, but essentially this person was expressing dismay at my recommendation of a lot of audiobooks. And they were like, you know, just do regular books. So I just want to clarify all of the books that I recommend are actual paper books. They just happen to have an audiobook copy that you can get. You know, this is an audio show. So I figured clips from the audiobook are a good idea. Isn't this, isn't this the old, this is the old, age old, Cold War that we always have about audiobooks versus regular books. And it's annoying to me because they're the same damned content, two different delivery methods. It's fine either way. So if she says to you, I recommend book A from author B, you can go read the

paper one. It's not the same book. And I encourage people to do that. Absolutely. It's what how consume the this art however you can. Yeah. Sometimes the audio ones include extra stuff that you wouldn't get in the book version. Like if you're going to read, uh, World War Z, the book from Max, uh, I forgot his last name. Brooks. Max Brooks. Max Brooks. Yes, Max Headroom. Max Headroom. Matt Fuhr. Anyway, if you wanted to read that book, you would get the book and you would have a good time. But if you want to get the audio book, you would get Alan Alda and a whole bunch

of fancy actor people doing different parts, still reading the book verbatim, but with a little music and a little extra acting and stuff like that. So sometimes those have extra stuff, but beyond that, it's the same damn stuff. Same damn stuff. Yeah.

Just get what you're going to get. Like I said, a lot of times I really like, particularly with things that are autobiographies and stuff, if if the author has any, you know, skill on a mic at all with reading their own stuff, like, for example, Jenny Lawson, it's great because she just reads it like she's telling a story. And every once in a while, she'll give you a little parenthetical in the audiobook that's not in the actual printed book. Oh, really?

Because she just goes off on a tangent because that's how her brain works. And it's amazing. And I love her. You know, so, yeah, I mean, so anyway, this was not to defend myself, but rather to encourage this, this responder, hey, yeah, absolutely 100%. There is a paper copy of every book I have recommended. So if anything sounded good, but you were like, oh, but I don't like audiobooks, feel free, go get the regular paper book, because they're all actual book books. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Frank says that I'm too nice and that he would never solicit people's opinion on his pregnant. That's got a point.

There's a point to that. Yeah. We're a pretty, you know, this community can be relied upon for not being too wackadoo, but. Yeah. It's that age old thing. And, you know, this is one of the first things that Gary Vaynerchuk probably talks about in his keynote speeches at podcast movement. But if you get one comment from somebody, pay attention to it, but you can probably disregard it. But if you start getting five or ten comments about your show and something need to change, then that's where you start.

Yeah, it's the Rayleigh-Givens thing, right? Yeah, exactly, you're the A-hole or no, if one guy says it, he might be an A-hole, but if everyone says it, you're the A-hole or whatever. It's like that. Yeah, I'm sure I nailed the exact reading of that thing that he said. And I did not take this at all as a, as a. a dig at me or this person being an a hole at all i didn't i didn't take it as a dig or a harsh criticism at all i just was like oh i feel i should clarify yeah that's good it's good that's good that's you do that what i'm hearing is that you're super pissed and you'd like to have a war with this person i totally

am everybody go flame this person even though i haven't said their name because i don't remember what it is so there you go look you can say it's okay to just say you can say diced tomato out last it's okay and then you like further oh then you say i don't even you know don't even care enough to remember this person's name oh wow yeah it's a certain tomato certain tomato it's a certain way of a certain way of preparing a uh yeah i understand a love apple yeah a love apple oh my goodness have you never heard the term love apple i've never heard a love apple before I do that's the, that's a term for tomatoes. Like, uh, uh, uh, why?

Yes, I'm gonna, could I have some love apples on my salad, please? Why is it called that? What, why? I don't know. I'm afraid to add, is it because it's squishy? Um, like, I mean, ew. Squish like love? I don't know.

Okay, so it refers to, Brian is absolutely right. It refers to a tomato, but also it says it could be a wax apple they're referring to, which is a little bit weird. Interesting. I could, I could have gone with you on like a peach, being a love apple because, you know, it was a peach, you know. Yeah, they can eat one of those for an hour. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where they ever got the term love apples.

No, that's really weird. I love it. I'm putting that in my lexicon. All right. So, without further ado, now that I've started a war, let's read about a different type of war. So this was, this is one of my favorite books that I read growing up. You know, last Last week we did, like, a little kid's book. So now we're stepping it up a little bit. This is a what kids would call a chapter book now. And it's a great little book for, you know, somebody who's at the age where they need something a little, a little more meaty. They can, they can read some chapters, but it's not a hard read.

But it's also great for adults to read because it's just funny. So, so let's go with that. And with that, we will say. Carlos's idea at the meeting at Maxie Hammermans was too complicated for him to explain in English. Maxie Hammerman had to explain it for him. Maxi Hammerman spoke Spanish and 12 other languages. He had to, being the Pushcart King. Carlos wishes to say, Maxi Hammerman began,

that the problem is to make people see who is blocking the streets. Certainly. said Harry the hot dog. But how? Carlos has described to me a very clever pea shooter that his youngest boy has made. Carlos says that the pea shooter shoots not just ordinary peas, but peas with a pin stuck in them. Children, said Papa Peretz. You have to watch them every minute. For example, my grandson, wait, wait, Papa Peretz. We are coming to the point. The point is

Carlos has told his boy that he must never use such a pea-shooter to shoot at people as it would not be so nice to put a pin in someone's arm. That is what I mean. Wait. Carlos' little boy replies,

Then what good is the pea-shooter? Carlos does not know how to answer and he feels bad because the shooter is very, very cleverly made, and it is a shame if the boy cannot use it at all. Then suddenly, when Papa Perrette says at this meeting that we need a secret weapon, Carlos is happy. He sees what the shooter is good for. To put pins in the truck drivers?

Carlos shook his head. No, Maxie Hammerman replied. It is Carlos's belief that even truck drivers. are people. He has told his little boy that he must never shoot at people and he does not wish to set a bad example.

Then what good is the peace shooter? asked Frank the flower. Carlos spoke very excitedly to Maxie Hammerman in Spanish. Aha! said Maxi Hammerman. Carlos says we will not, of course,

shoot at the truck drivers. We will shoot at the truck tires. He says we will kill the truck tires. Bang! Says Carlos, pointing an imaginary truck tire. Bang, bang! It was a word he had learned from his boy.

Then, goma vasia, said Carlos. Goma vasia, Maxi Hammerman explained, meant Spanish in flat tie. meant in Spanish flat tire. See, Carlos nodded, blowing his breath out and sinking to the floor as if he were a truck tire going flat. Morris, the Flores, took off his hat. A such an idea! For such an idea, Carlos could be president of the USA.

President, said Papa Perez. How can the president speak Spanish? Never mind the president. It is a good idea. Good, said General Anna. It is beautiful. I see the picture. The question is, who is blocking the traffic? All right? We kill the truck tires, and suddenly everywhere in the streets, big dead trucks, they can't move. They are blocking everything. People look around in every block they see six, seven, eight, dead tracts. People will see who is

blocking the traffic. Of course, said Mr. Jalerson. It is not such a nice thing to do. Not nice, said Morris, the florist. Compared to smashing a man's

cart so badly that it can never be fixed, it is a very nice thing to do. And scene. Seam. You know, I feel like someone's going to get rubbed out in this mob scene we're watching. Oh, my goodness. That was great.

I enjoyed the hell out of that. Is there anything left in the book? Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Sorry, I know. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Yeah.

So the book is called The Pushcart War, and it's by Gene Meryl. And it is, it's fiction, but it reads as a historical account. And it's sort of set in the 60s, and it was, it's funny because it was written in the 60s, but it's, the narrator tells it as though they're telling it from the 80s. And so it's supposed to be this near future fiction, but for us, it's actually like the past. But anyway, it's set in the 60s. And the issue at hand is that the push cart vendors, you know, like food trucks and, you know, like you see in New York on the streets of New York are literally being pushed around by the big delivery trucks.

And, you know, and so the truck drivers and the push cart vendors all have this, you know, their little armies set up trying to sway public opinion one way or the other. and of course the people running the truck companies want to keep the trucks on the street and the push cart vendors just want to be allowed to push their push carts and it all started when Morris the Floris went head first into a pickle barrel because his cart was smashed by a big truck and it's great it's it's about 180 pages You can literally read it in an afternoon. But it's, and, you know, it's got really cute illustrations.

But, yeah, and the chapters are very, very short. So, again, it's great for young readers. But also, I mean, it's just very funny because all the characters read that way. Like, you hear those type of voices in your head because they say things like that, like, such an idea. You know, like, oh, would I lead such an army? You know, that kind of thing. I love when characterization comes out in the words in the books. It's hard, right?

That's a hard thing to write. It's great when it becomes obvious. It's really fun. And I remembered reading this as a kid. And I don't think I really got it, honestly, when I read it as a kid. But it's still super fun to read as an adult. And it's got, you know, it's got kind of some good messaging in there as well. Like, it starts off with an introduction saying, you know, it's important when

studying war to really understand how wars begin. But wars on our more modern stages are so big and sprawling that it's very difficult to, you know, really, really zero in on where the problem began. Whereas with an incident like this, where you've got a truck driver smashing a push cart vendor's cart, you know exactly where it started, and then you can sprawl out from there and see how it begins and how it ends. And it's fantastic. It's just great fun. You've got a corrupt mayor in here. You've got you've got some, you know, the truck drivers acting like, you know, members of the mafia. You got your push cart vendors who are, you know, sort of the underdogs. It's good fun. I recommend it.

Nice. It seems like a good pick. Nicely done. Give me the name again. It's called the Pushcart War by Gene Merrill. Push cart war. Yep. The bloody affair.

And worth checking out. So, uh, well done as always. Uh, Amy, uh, it's always fun having you on. And I love the reading and that was great. And, uh, I can't wait for more. Uh, that'll be every freaking Thursday that we can think of. This will be back and, uh, talking about books. So get your read on everybody.

Red Fraggle 3. wherever you find her. Amy, have a great weekend. We'll see you next time. Bye now. You too. Bap. And just checked, available in hard copy as well as audio book.

Oh, good. Well, and she even, you know, she even did her own reading. So clearly she's just got the paper business there. Right. Yes, exactly. We're giving that guy so much. He doesn't deserve it. I know.

No, he doesn't deserve it. It's totally fine. All right. What the hell are we doing now? We're going to do some quick news. We have time for a little bit, so we're going to go forward here. Good morning, good morning, everybody. In the news this morning, good morning.

Time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by a tribute to a guitarist that we lost yesterday due to bacterial meningitis. An incredible guitarist. He was a member of the yard birds. He was a member of the honey drippers with Robert Plant, Jimmy Page. Talking about Jeff Beck, who I get to see back in 2016 when he came through town with the Zizi Top. great show. So, uh, yes, a Jeff Beck tribute today on Coverville, mostly covers by Jeff Beck because dude covered so much stuff and, uh, there'll be some yardbirds covers in there as well,

but, but a lot of new stuff that, uh, that he covered. That's really, really good. Nice. It's really sad to hear about that. Yeah. Manage, bacterial meningitis is freaking no joke, man. It's no joke, but it's treatable if you catch it. If you can catch it early, it absolutely is. Yeah. Earlier the better. I had a guy worked for. once who had it so bad that his entire face was just broken out in the horrible pockets of of infection and it was getting toward his brain or whatever so they put him on these hardcore antibiotics and it eventually was okay but if he hadn't if he had gone untreated that would have been it yeah yeah really bad she's rough stuff anyway uh today 1 p.m mountain time

twitch dot tv slash coverville here is your story of the morning which is probably all we're have time for. Utah porn sniffing dog has died after putting numerous offenders behind bars. Oh, sounds suspicious. It's a little suspicious. Maybe it's just the book that Amy read to us, but I don't know. It feels like there's something else going on. Something else afoot. That's right. Someone's out to get the dog that put them behind bars. After a life of sniffing out criminals, the retired porn sniffing dog called URL, literally that like the initialism URL you want to call him I wonder if that's good for something

I'm kind of uh I don't know uh what was it stand for in uh URL what is it in uniform resource locator there it is yeah maybe that's what he is he's a uniformed a uniformed resource locator could be the resource he's looking for is uh you know illegal porn that's right exactly he died on the 30th weber County Sheriff's Office URL was the fourth dog in the country to be certified and trained as electronic storage detection canine. Detective Cameron Hartman and the canine completed more than 200 search warrants where they obtained digital evidence for cases, mostly involving child sexual expectation material and or child sexual abuse material. The list of the remarkable fines for the canine include USB drives disguised as a key on a key ring full of keys, a micro SD card and a closed baby food jar. Let's see, in a pencil box full of other items that were inside a large cedar chest. Good Lord.

And then finally, an SD card up high on a shelf, a cell phone hidden in a book, and even cell phone parts hidden in a wall behind a toilet in the Weaver County Jail, according to the sheriff's office. The almost eight-year-old police dog recovered dozens of critical pieces of digital evidence that otherwise would have been overlooked and provided emotional support to officers working in the stressful realm of child exploitation and to the children who were. scared during search warrants. URL and his handler Hartman worked on many law enforcement agencies in the state, including the internet crimes against children task force, FBI Child Exploitation Task Force,

Department of Homeland Security, Utah Department of Corrections, and the Weber-Morgan Nicotic Strike Force. So he was a good dog. He was a good boy. He was a good, good boy. He was the goodest dog ever. I'm thinking of it's probably pronounced Earl. They probably called him Earl. Probably. Even though he spelled it

URL. And so It's less like a porn sniffing dog and more a flash drive sniffing dog. Yes. Which is, if anything, it's more fascinating. I mean, I can't imagine that porn has a smell like, oh, there's a, I can smell a copy of Jugs magazine a mile away. Exactly. Like if you're going to, if you're after child porn, you would be after hard drives and USB sticks and all of that. So training an animal to be

aromatically sensitive to those devices is such an odd thing to me. It's such a weird thing. It blows my mind that you can. That's great. Dogs are great, man. Freaking dogs. Dogs are awesome.

All right, well. They can smell cancer, apparently. Like, that's what somebody said. That's true. They can tell also, what was the thing I heard the other day? They're good at smelling all kinds of changes. So if like you're going through, something or like if a

somebody that the dog knows has a chemical change in their own brain the dog can often sense it yeah dogs man they're great seizures coming stuff like that diabetes wow that big that big fleshy weird nose of theirs it's good stuff it's good a pretty dang

powerful wish we had that well maybe I don't maybe there's something maybe maybe it's like a blessing and a curse they're like oh god the stuff I smell you don't even want you don't want this Superpower Maybe they don't mind I mean I always think

Because they'll go out and just like full on Snork up somebody's Some other dogs put with the park or whatever You show up at somebody's house And you know Yeah they like it Got all dressed up And you you know

You even took a shower Before you went over there And that dog still goes Right up the They don't have the versions They don't have the versions we do Which is for good or for ill Clearly they don't

Occasionally you know, Ripley will eat another dog's poo. And that's no good. We don't want that. It's a delicacy. Yeah. It's a fancy little treat. Ooh, it's a dox and dough.

Bring it on. Oh, yeah, diabetic alert dogs. I've heard of that. So if somebody's having, if somebody's spiking, especially with type one, if their insulin levels get out of whack, the dog can tell before the person can even tell. I'm going to like poke him in the butt and, you know, sniff, rub at their arm and stuff. Like, dude, check your, check your, check your, check your, your blood. Yeah. All right. Let's go. Let's, let's go. Let's take a break. When we come back,

my sister, Wendy, will be here. Are you happy, Claire? You've been begging the whole time in the chat. Well, good news. Wendy is here today. We got an email that we've been holding on to for a while. So we're going to get to all of that in a second, but we can't do any of that until we have a song. Brian, please take a song and make it play. Sure. Down to Fort Worth, Texas, somebody that's spin magazine called one of the 35 best lesser known artists of the last 35 years. That says a lot. This is a guy named Ryan Hamilton. He signed with Stephen Van Zanzant's Wicked Cool label in June and went on a sold-out tour with The Alarm out in the UK. We love the alarm.

He is Ryan Hamilton. He's got a brand new album called Haunted by the Holy Ghost. It comes out March 10th. You've got to wait, you know, two months to wait for this thing. But this will tide you over. Here is the title track of Hunted by the Holy Ghost by Ryan Hamilton. Now you're haunted by the Holy Ghost Haunted You can try and disobey you're still Haunted It doesn't matter how you play it

When you're haunted Haunted by the Holy Ghost They ain't this fun There's no way out. That pain remains, and it comes screaming out your mouth. Just let it fly undiagnosed. You're haunted by the Holy Ghost. Haunted.

You can try and disobey it. You're still haunted. It doesn't matter how you play it when you're haunted. Haunted by the Holy Ghost Haunted! You can preach it, you can pray it, but you're haunted It doesn't matter how you play you when you're haunted Haunted by the Holy Ghost

The death you need a friend Just look looking And exercise it out into temptation you've never been so proud Haunted, you can try and disobey you're still. Haunted, it doesn't matter how you play it with you. Haunted, haunted by the holy ghost.

Haunted, you can preach it, you can pray it, but you're haunted, it doesn't matter how you play you when you're haunted. Haunted by the Holy Ghost I think that's a Ursula merger right there See like the handle of the ladle? It's called Ursa Major, not Ursula merger And that's not even it, that's Orion. Oh, and she didn't even have to look up.

I was the last high priest dedicated to Uranus. The morning stream. Yes, we're going to have to go right to ludicrous speed. And we've returned. Who was that again? That was great. Sure. That's Ryan Hamilton from his brand new album,

which comes out in March called Haunted by. By the Holy Ghost, that right there is the title track. Yes. To answer the chat's question, well, when you be in Vegas, we are discussing it. Oh, cool. I don't know if she's finally decided or not, but I think she definitely wants to go. If she does, I'm going to try to rope her into your contest, if possible. Okay.

Because wouldn't that be fun? That would be fun. Yeah. It'll add a few extra dollars, but it'll be fun. Oh, it adds money every time we add people? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about it later then. But it would be worth it to see.

I'd be worth it. Yeah. Oh, hi. It's my sister Wendy. Wait, Wendy. Oh, hi. My sister, Wendy, who was very briefly in town and then out of town again. I'm sad we didn't get to see it, but I assume everything went well other than the horrible reason you were traveling.

Yeah. Yeah. That was no fun. No, not at all. You know what's cool, though? I think it's worth bringing this up just in general real quick here. Wendy's got these friends she's had in high school. then they've been close like forever since high school and forward so every year or something

you guys all do a getaway or some kind of retreat I don't have anybody in high school like that like I don't have any friends that have like I retained to that level where we're always got a thing going or we're always got each other's backs and when something bad happens everybody kind of gathers around so I think that's a very cool thing that you cultivated there and I think you're lucky yeah it is and I think I have to say this because there were There was the normal years where you kind of separate and do your own things and everyone went to different colleges and everyone kind of did their stuff. And then this is the weird part. Like what brought us back together was kind of, hey, have you guys heard of blogs?

Yeah. And then we just started, we made our own blog where only we read it and we just, we were such idiots. Oh, that's cool. And then we figured out like, that's stupid. why don't we? And then it's like technology gave us some things after that that just made it work. So I feel like it is really rare and it's really cool. And I'm super, super grateful for them because they would do anything for me and I would do

anything for them. And I don't think that's super common. But it kind of went in waves and then it came back. And now as we're like aging together, you're like, we're going to be crazy old ladies together. Yep. That's right. And that's the golden years, Wendy. That's where you're headed.

We're going to be the golden girls, except they were. They were like 40 in the show. It freaks me out or however. Yeah, they were young. Like 50, I think Blanche was 52. Really? Yeah, the oldest, the youngest one there was the old, the one that played the oldest was actually the youngest.

She was the best. Yeah, she was great. But she also got Alzheimer's before any of the rest of them even got to her age. She did. She did. She was crazy. Yeah, that's why she died. But that, yeah, like, if you really want to feel old, go read up about how the golden girls, how old they all were when they made that.

I don't freak out. I don't think I need to need to know that. Yeah, Brian and I were Blanche's age. Oh, my lord. Anyway, I was also, oh, the other day I was looking at how old everybody on Seinfeld was. That's also weird. When they started, Elaine was 28. Jerry, see, Jerry was 35.

George was just barely 30. Yeah. And Kramer was 41. think of that. Wow. Kramer's almost ageless because you don't think of them as a person with an age. Yeah, exactly, yes. I definitely didn't think of it was 41.

It's really weird. Plucked out of some weird time. Yeah. Anyway, age is weird. And we're going to do an email today. Let's go. Oh, and then to, so Wendy, I mentioned this before you got on, but we have, we are, we have been in discussion about possible Vegas for you in April and we're there. And so everybody who last year was like giving me.

crap because I didn't tell Wendy about the dates. Until like the Thursday before. Yeah. That was just bad planning on my part and bad assumptions and all kinds of stuff. But we're talking early here. Nothing yet to announce. But, you know, obviously we would love to have, always love to have Wendy there. Oh, for sure.

I will definitely come now that I have time to, you know, plan. Tell me the dates. Do you have them? Oh, yeah. April 23rd, which is the Sunday. We, you know, if we need you to come in Sunday, possibly. through the 27th, which is the Thursday. Yeah, Brian's doing a thing that if you want to be involved in it, you can.

But it's like, what do you call Brian with any of it? It's called Taskville. Taskville. Yeah, based on stolen from a UK game called Taskmaster. Yeah. And you basically, you know, solve puzzles. And it was, we did it last year and it was kind of a riot. Are you going to just highlight how dumb I am in other ways?

Yeah, that's what he does. That's what it is. That's what he did to me. All of us who were involved, it was all a matter. That's not the, that's not the, the plan, no. It was all about, it was just a great side effect. Who is the least dumb? It just happens to be a great side effect.

Okay. It's like whoever's the least stupid. I'm all for public humiliation. That's fine. Oh, good. Sweet. There's lots of that. But anyway, we'll talk more.

For today, though, we're going to talk about an email that you sent a while ago. And then, you know, holidays and busyness and all that stuff got in the way. And so we haven't had a chance to do it. So we're going to do it today. This is somebody who we, can say their name is real stepper or they are a real steper is what they are the real step they are the real step that's right they're part of your deal and uh they say this hi windy uh whenever you talk about f o or foo and uh reparenting yourself on tms i immediately feel

guilty about my kids needing to reparent themselves in the future besides knowing better and doing better and no longer modeling crappy behavior because i'm working through my own foe uh what do i do now besides therapy, which we're doing. I'm asking your advice here for all the other TMS listeners who hear about how Foo screwed them up and how saying it to them, they're saying to themselves, quote, but I'm my kids. Foo, what can I do now? Anyone should have to take, or sorry, everyone should have to take a parenting class and therapy before becoming parents. Thanks. So this real stepper gets real specific about the whole Foo issue. And for those who are just joining in and I didn't have not heard you talk to Foo in the past.

them what it is again so we can yeah so food f o stands for family of origin so that's scott for me yep um and i am scott's foo uh it's yeah it's and when we we disagree we're we're foo fighters i was waiting for that that's pretty good write that down you use it for your next thing nice yeah do we know what foo fighter what foo means for them i don't know It does. It's foo fighters or air, like air force or any planes that were sent out to fight UFOs. Oh, really? Yeah. UFOs are the foos.

Those are the foos. That's actually really cool. I did not know that. That is cool. And also, your family of origin issues show up there, too. Oh, they coined it in World War II. That's great. That's even cooler.

Yeah. Because back then, they didn't know nothing about nothing. So they'd see a blink in the sky. go, bruh, foo fighters get it, go, go, go, you know, anyway. Interesting. Okay, yeah, so foo is your family of origin, and it really is just short cut lingo for therapists to write on a notepad as they're understanding your background. But I like to just say it out loud because it's a good word.

But that idea is essentially how you grew up, who you grew up with, the parenting you receive, the parenting you didn't receive, you know, kind of all that stuff combined. it can sometimes create challenges and that's we think of it as your family of origin issues okay so this person is saying first of all hey real steper uh second of all

that's our secret that's our secret high that's how we talk to each other we don't need a secret hand shake you have a secret high and it just happens to be high and it's a lower dumb voice like hey gotcha hey so anyway hey

okay so uh yeah Yeah, that is a really interesting moment when you're figuring out your stuff, right? Because the moment will come where you already have children, you're like, oh, no, what am I doing? I think it comes naturally for a lot of parents to just be like, I don't want to screw my kid up. Well, guess what? The only reason you would even have that thought is because you have some food issues, right? You'd normally, if you just didn't have much family of origin stuff, you just be like, I'm going to be a great parent, moving on, you know? I don't know if anyone in the world, there's anyone left that does that, but there's definitely

when you're already clued into, oh, no, I don't want to screw this up. That's just because you're living the life of a parent and you grew up and you experience many moments where you're like, can I have a redo? Like, that was not what I meant. I'm exhausted and I just handled that totally poorly and da-da-da-da. Now where food gets interesting is, of course, as you start to look at it and go a little deeper, everybody's got something. And usually the reason you find it is because you clash with someone else's food. So, for example, if you partner with somebody, let's say they celebrated holidays really differently than you or how they handle money is really different from how you handle money or, you know, whatever their

style is around something. Like you marry somebody who grew up with a ton of siblings and they're used to chaos and noise and maybe you're an only child and then you get together and you're like, why do you want it loud and why do you need it so quiet? Like those aren't food in the sense of like, oh, this is so bad, but you still have to adjust, right? But what it does show, it can bring to the surface. Oh, we talked a certain way. We solved problems a certain way. We showed anger, love, different things like that in different ways. And then that's where conflict will arise. So if you're not partnered, the other way this shows up, up is in your workplaces.

Usually we can find lots of these things through items when you repeat patterns. So, for example, if you were shamed to bits to perform, oh, by the way, I'm still coaching basketball, it's going game busters. We've won two games out of a hundred guys. We're doing awesome. Oh, my gosh. Wow. I know.

Two whole games. Really exceeding the expectations. Yeah. Good Lord. Anyway, but one of the things I've learned is. is that there is a temptation, I have felt it to, like, bribe these kids to play harder or like, hey, listen, I will give you something if you will just make a blast get, you know, like there is kind of this, you know, whatever.

And this idea of like, you know, I'm going to model motivation and I'm going to give you a thing, which, by the way, ruins the love of any game is if you start paying somebody to perform it for you or grades, different things. I could do a whole segment on how our inclination as parents to get a result, you know, leads to us destroying the love a child has for anything, by the way. But that idea of, right, like, eyes can start to model, hey, this is how we get love or this is how we avoid shame. So if shame is my tool, right, then people will perform to avoid the shame and then say that they're doing that as a kid. They're doing it in my house.

and you know clean your room you're a big fat slob and people will never love you or or what mom would say when I would burp at a table and she'd be like you are going to be on a date and then burp's going to come out of your mouth and no one will want to love you and you're like okay guess what did mom really say that yeah totally everyone still loves me and I can still burp like a man yeah you can you guys have no idea for a second just for one quick moment side note windy burps like a freaking I don't know how to explain it. People like in... Like a frat boy.

There are people in Nevada who... They're picking her up on seismographs and stuff. She is such a burper. Let me say one of the ingredients to the bonding of my high school friends is we can all do that. Really? That's the common friends. Like, just get together. And we all talk about how our mom's threatened us.

And then we all talk about how our husbands don't care. And our boys think we're especially cool. So it's how you bond as high school. schoolers, learn a skill together. Anyway, okay, so the point is, like, you can create shame around using shame to parent, and then the kid associates feeling terrible about themselves or their efforts and do whatever they can to avoid shame. Now, fast forward 25 years, 20 years or something, and you keep having experiences where you are promising way too much and underperforming and then staying up all night or giving it all or like burning yourself out because

you're trying to avoid shame. Now most people are just going, why do I keep doing that? I don't know. And then do it again and do it again, do it again. And that's where food investigation can be very fruitful. It's like, huh, what am I actually doing here? What am I trying to avoid? And then what your brain does, which is really my favorite part of therapy, is it starts to just show you a slideshow. It's like, uh-huh, remember that?

And sometimes it's just this moment, like we did with your baseball game, Scott or your baseball team. Yeah. You know, it will show you these bits and pieces of sort of when and how you were trained to sort of interact with your emotional self

in certain ways because that's how your family did it. So I'm going to ask both of you just this quick question about your foo, but you're like ancient foo. And then I will answer the emailer's question. Ancient food. But your ancient food. Meaning, do you know anything about any family issues from generations before your parents or grandparents? Yes. So not people you knew. Yes. Right. Just give me like a really old one from the old. Here's the one. The only one I actually know is that who would, I guess he would have been my grandfather. My, my mother's dad, real dad, went to, served in World War II. and came home kind of broken and left everybody. That's all I know.

Yes. Oh, wow. So that's some foo that I'm aware of. That's some old foo. Yeah. That's some old foo. And that foo, I've thought. I don't even know how real the foo is, to be honest.

I assume it's, you know, there's probably nuance. So what I want to point out is that the food, it doesn't have to happen to you to still be part of the experience that shapes you. So, for example, let's take, mom doesn't listen to the show anymore, does she? No. Hell no. Okay. All right. So, for example, and I don't know if you know this, but mom's mom, so grandma, whose husband left her after he came back from World War II, her father left their family. Oh.

So that is second generation. And then the family before. So we are talking three generations of women. I am the first out of the four generations that my father didn't leave. Yeah. I didn't. not know that. Yeah. That's crazy. I did not know you. That's quite a thing to know. But take every one of these women, mom included, their husbands left.

Yeah. And then everyone got an awesome stepdad that came in. And dad is, dad is Mark's stepdad. Yeah, my brother's stepdad. He's our dad. But dad is the only one who stayed. He is the chain breaker. He was our full dad.

Yeah, he is the chain breaker. You're right. He's a chain breaker, right? And so you can look at that and you just go, that's crazy coincidence. Or maybe there's something that has. Passes down. Yeah. Yeah.

They kind of go, and we'll use terms like generational trauma to explain some of this. There's more systemic versions of that, but then there's within a family you can find, sometimes you can find a line. So you take someone in the Great Depression, lost everything, what does that look like and how the next generation handles money? And so it's the legacy, as it were, of emotional behavior and experiences that you're kind of handing down, handing down, handing down, handing down, right? And you can change that. You can break that. So, dad came in and stayed, and fortunately, I was not the first born. So I got to be

the first woman in four generations whose father didn't leave. Yeah, that's true. And I'm so grateful, I can't even explain the level of gratitude because I know what that did. And these women, and this is a long time ago, guys, like there was not a lot of single mom love anywhere, right? So Yeah, no, you were, that was an embarrassment that you hid and didn't talk about. In fact, that's why it feels so legendary in our family with grandma is that it was very hush, hush. It was like a secret, you know? Right, right. And then for that to just stop because a dad didn't leave is kind of amazing.

But when you think about what the then's separate legacy can be, and this is what I want to say to the real steper here, is that as you figure out your foo, what you do is stop some of these bigger things from happening, right? And maybe you don't parent with shame anymore. I'm using that because it is a common foo for people. Shame is, yeah, shame is. Because it is effective, y'all. If you're just like, you're the worst, do this better, I won't love you. Especially with Hungary, well, any Eastern European origin, shame is big, gilded shame.

Yeah. So then, so if you're using that and that's how you've always, operate it. It's really easy to do it to the next generation. But if you can figure out this food, you can get the help that you need. You can stop the big ones. So let me tell you, you will not pass on generational food. You can be the chain breaker if you do your work. Now, are you going to make little mistakes? Yes. Are you going to create your own kids food anyway? Yeah, you are. But it might be that you hug them too much. Or it might be that you worry a little too much. or it might be, it could be things that are not these catastrophic, you know, core self-esteem things.

It can be other things, right? So what I'm getting at is you're not going to be perfect. Your kid will talk about you in therapy one day. Like just, if you can plan on that and hold that a little lighter, it'll be fine. It's the big stuff you've got to worry about, and that's where your main work will come. And most of the little stuff works itself out as they get older, right? because they kind of grow up and see that they're not smart and you're great. Do that make sense?

I mean, I'm hoping that. That's what I'm hoping. That's what we're all hoping. So, Brian, how about you? Do you have a generational way back story? Yeah, the, I mean, the only thing I can think of, and it is shame related, but it was my grandmother's mother hiding the fact that her father when he was buried was Jewish. so and it wasn't like you know protecting him from Nazis or anything like that no it was out of shame like oh god he was Jewish so we can't let anybody in the family know about this so I don't

know if that's I mean that's kind of like a I don't know if that's a thing that we can break the cycle of so much I mean I you know every Christmas I eat little coin shaped candy eat chocolates and I spin adrenal and I'm not I'm not ashamed to my 132 Jewish heritage so I'm so you broke it right you broke the

I've broken it yes by embracing my inner does it help okay that actually brings up a question I have Wendy does it help that Brian can he can break it partially part of it's just because he's Brian and he can break things yeah but but isn't part

of it is that the world that also changes a culture evolves or whatever to either be more accepting of certain things more closed off to other things more willing to call out bad behavior celebrate good behavior that sort of thing is it possible that that helps current stuff is shown that we backslide that you know the the the world is kind of backsliding with well a little bit but but does it because i actually think i actually think maybe it's the opposite because we are we legitimately freak out when people start sliding that direction. And so it's still the same few number of people, but now, A, they've got a voice, and now

we can kind of like, eh, push them, you know, like, you need to do it. Part of it is you don't have to do the shame thing anymore. All you have, or whoever, all you have to do is just stand up and say it, and you have the majority opinion. The majority opinion is, uh, Nazis are bad and Kanye West is wrong. And, you know, that's our majority opinion. Yeah. Whereas back in your grandmother.

It wasn't always the case. Yeah, your great grandmother's day was more like, hush, hush, keep it quiet. The world's weird, you don't know, you know. So I don't know. I feel like that's a positive thing. That's true, actually, yeah. Does it make it, so Wendy, the question to you is, does it, is that a factor for Brian or anyone else that they can break some of these chains and the chains that

dad broke? Is it because of when, when he came around? You know what I mean? Right. In your time, more than say in times past, you have a bigger opportunity to break the chain? I don't know. Yes, I would, I absolutely think so. I think what you find is that, you know, and this could be an interesting discussion of

someone might say, oh, well, families don't, you know, stay together like they used to. Well, families, a lot of times stayed together because of societal forces that required one person to not be a whole person or required, you know, the public shaming, think about divorce previously or those types of things. I mean, it was just, you were nothing but an utter failure. And so society has shifted so that there are options for people to leave different lives when something difficult happens in their families. And, you know, women can, you know, there are still laws.

Actually, I'm not sure if there's any left yet where it's still legal for men to rape their wives. You know, like I think that one is finally shifted, but I want to say not too long ago is still 11 states. You know, so you look at just the difference in the ability to do something different, to break free of some social norm that was held in place, might look really messy. And that's kind of something to point out here with food issues is 100%, that's a big number, of food issues usually are just keep the rules that we've created, right? So if we think about a family dynamic where the rule is you perform at the highest level all the time or you're ashamed to this family, okay? You're going to do everything to follow that rule.

There's another family where the rule is you do not reveal anything that's going on under this roof to anyone else, right? So you follow that rule. And what talking to a therapist and then working through these food issues most of the time will entail is breaking those family rules or, you know, seeing them for the first time. And this is where things get a little tricky because I would say the first half of my career, I was very much like, let's write a letter to that person. Let's share how we really feel. And I have really changed my tune on that because it's, it's. assuming that the other person will get this new information that someone's trying to make a change and trying to heal and they're going to go, well, good for you. But really what it is is you've broken

the code of silence in our family and it makes some of the healing much harder. So I tend to have people write letters they never send and process a lot, a lot, a lot before there's any kind of confrontation and they tend to do much better and sometimes don't even need the confrontation. Do they ever worry that those people's letters are going to get discovered? it if, you know, they're designed to never be sent, but then the person who would get it somehow got it and then went, oh, crap, I didn't mean for that to go out. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I have a rule. You can't, you can type it out if you want, but then you have to delete it or you write it in paper and you burn it. Like there's a process to it. Right. It's also just not actually writing a letter you would send. It's vomiting on a page. Right. And then you wouldn't send that anyway. No. So it's, it's like allowing, finally having the safety to process what you're going. you have gone through. And as you realize, I think that's another big piece here is

you're swimming in the water you are swimming in until you realize, oh, this water is not great, right? And you didn't even know there was water. And so that awakening or changing and that really can disrupt a family dynamic. I like to think of it. And I think of death as some sort of like this as well.

Like imagine, you know, cats in the cradle with the little string kids play with. if we're, to kids do that anymore? No, no, there's actually an app that you can. Oh, okay. All right. You guys want to say, I love it.

The app's taking care of that too. Oh, boy. But imagine like a large rope and everyone's holding on to an intricate pattern of, of weaving of this rope, but each person in the family is holding onto a part of it. And a death will do this where, of course, someone lets go and everyone has to adjust. They're kind of falling back and trying to figure out the new norm. And this can happen when someone discovers that they've been harmed in a family in a deep psychological way. They have to do something different that you're going to change.

And it's like letting go of the family rope and saying, okay, I can't participate. This is harming me too much, right? And so people have to adjust. And sometimes that means, you know, you've broken the rule, you're out, you know. So there are many, many chain breakers who end up being very alone. And having to start over is really tough. And there is probably never a moment in their life where they're not wondering if it was worth all of it.

But it is. And how I know it is is I'm the kid who benefited from that. And so please believe me. But also that you can improve how you experience your life. That's the point, right? You find these things, do the work, and your relationships deepen and are better everywhere. And maybe that the family of origin stuff doesn't get repaired

because you got old dude in the corner who will not change one bit. You know, you can't, you can't control that. Old dude in the corner that just won't change. You know, everyone's got one. Sure. But just real quick, with parenting your own children and being worried about giving, like you're creating the foo. So, for example, I'm going to make you two confess.

I'll confess as well. What is the foo we've given our, now food, now foo just means code for crappy inheritance. I know, yeah. I've got one, but Brian, I want to hear yours first because mine has to do with actual podcasting. Oh, really? Oh, funny. Yeah, no, the food that I probably, we've scarred Tristan with is, uh, is, it could tend to lead to overeating. Like, he, he was a cheek stuffer as a kid.

Uh, like he would, instead of just eating his damn food, he would just stuff it in his cheeks. and aside from the fact that that caused some enamel issues. Yeah, like a little chipmunk, basically. Wow. Yeah, it caused some enamel issues with his teeth, but also he did it because we would say, you can't leave this table until your plate is clean. And so that was his way, his method of getting around it,

and then he just kind of kept doing it. And this was like, you know, obviously as a very small toddler. But I'm worried that, yeah, now we've like scarred him that he's going to feel like he can't leave a table until he's finished his food and he's going to pass that on to his kids and start the cycle over and over and over. Because there's starving kids in China, right?

Probably. I think, yeah, we might have, I can't remember if we use that because that got used on Tina and I as kids. And we always thought it was bunk because we would just say, well, send them this. Ooh, sassy. Yeah, here, I'm not going to finish it. Send those starving kids this food.

I'm totally fine with that. Yeah, that's when they call you on. And food, let me just say, I mean, the real stepers listening, no, we talk about this a lot of food is a great source material for food, right? It really is. I think I've even got some of that, too. And it was less, it was, you know, they did try to use the starving kids in Africa, but it was really just like the, we paid a lot of money for all this food and you better, you better eat it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And so if you think about, okay, so let's just take that very specific thing for a moment. So you can know your stuff. Let's say you're now a young father. And it's not too. It's way way past that. But yes, okay. Sure. But that idea of like, okay, you're aware of it. You know, that's how your parents handled it. So you work through some of those issues with food, which really would mean there are feelings attached to leftovers. There's feelings attached to not eating everything I'm looking at. There's feelings. attached to sneaking, hiding, listening to mom complain about her body every day of your life or always on a new diet, like all that stuff, a scale you're tripping over when you go in a bathroom. Like you are surrounded by, and you don't realize it. And then, of course, the bigger culture is all telling you the diet all the time too. All of that stuff is foo around food and food and food around weight and size.

And then you work through all of that. Then you get a kid. And now you've got a kid who's shoving food in their cheeks. Right. And it's the moment where the rubber meets the road where it's like, okay, how do I check myself with my stuff? Right. And then learn how to give this kid the freedom to develop their own relationship with food. And you're never going to do it perfectly, but you can definitely do a better job.

So I've watched generations of women stop talking about. dieting in front of their kids. And that was the norm for the 70s and 80s and 90s and probably 2000s, at least in my lifetime of my awareness. But I now know young mothers who will never, never say those words out loud in front of their children, never weigh themselves, never go and diets publicly, you know, because they see it. They're just going to do it differently, right? Anyway, and so the rubber hits the road. That's the moment where you know. So if you're getting triggered and you want to control a kid around a thing, that's usually a good sign that your foo is running into raising your kids. And then you can be more thoughtful, more mindful, take a step back, call your therapist, right?

Like, work through some of this. You'll never do the damage with awareness that you would ever do with the lack of awareness. That is truly the key. That makes sense. Yeah. Okay. So, Scott, how about you? Okay.

How did you damage your kids? this is a weird one but um i had this i always assume that me doing all this like talking in front of people all the time no problem getting up and speaking this sort of thing like that aspect of my life would be a good rub off thing that the kids would see that and go oh well i'm also very confident in front of people and i can also talk to anybody about anything anytime and fill fill dead space with conversation like contagious or genetic something like that yeah or they would see or they would see me do it or because they would participate in like nerd taculars or whatever, they would have that also,

that they would come away with that, that skill set and not be as nervous about it. The opposite has been true where they, that's made them more self-conscious because, and I have to always remember this when I'm like, oh, come on, it's no big deal. If I could do it, you could, you know, like that whole thing. I have to be careful with that. But so when they need to talk to someone about a resume like Carter's going to try to apply a really cool potential gig this week, which if it goes through, we'll tell everybody, but we won't tell and see what happens. But, you know, she's, she's nervous about that process where that process isn't nerve-wracking to me at all. Like, oh, I need to talk to somebody on Zoom. Great. Go ahead, fire it up. Let's go. I do

this all day. I can, you know, it's not a problem. I think they feel intimidated by that in a way that's worse because I'm over here making it seem like it's nothing, and to them it is absolutely something. And I'm not very sympathetic to how hard it is, or, you know, I try to be, but I don't notice it. Like basically, because you make it look effortless, even though, you know, we, you know, we both experience effort. Yeah. Yeah. But making it look effortless gives them the false hope that it's like, oh, I don't need to prepare a stress out or anything like that. And then, you know, maybe they get up in front of somebody and they freak out because

they don't realize how hard it is. And it, I think that's part of it. I think part of it is just they, how do I put this? It's like, I don't know. I'm trying to think of another example of this. And it only works. Well, can I normalize them for this? Please, yeah, do it.

The greatest number one fear humans have is public speaking. for sure and you're like kids what this is no hard as if they're not like 99% of everyone else right yeah no it's it's normal they're being normal you're being abnormal but but the idea is that there's been an effect from it that you just didn't see what happened you thought it would be right I'm the outlier in this case they're the normal ones but in my case I see it and go wait a minute why is that so hard it's not hard here and you're my kids you should not you know like There is a natural inclination to try to do that. I try really hard not to do that, though.

So if we translate, it's just like, I went to Harvard, you should go to Harvard. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like, basically, that's the trick. And I've done it. And early on, this is like, you know, let's say when they were teenagers, you know, in high school, junior high and stuff, I think is when it was the worst for them, for those expectations,

at a time in their life when most kids do want to shrink away and not be the loud one. don't want all that attention, right? Yeah. And so they also grew up with flipping Snapchat and Instagram and you didn't. That's true. That's true. But it also didn't make it any easier that I had Instagram and Snapchat before they did. And I understood it and I was never a parent. And you're cool. You're like a cool dad. I was like never. Well, I just I just never was like, oh, I don't understand how this works. How's the internet work? Like that was never me like most of their friends parents. And so I think that added to it. So now it's a little different now because I understand it better. But I think I instilled a little bit of that back in the day.

And that is a very natural one at foo that shows up for all of us because we're pretty, you know, this focalism thing where my experience is everyone's experience until you show me it's not. And then I'm confused because are you having my experience? Like our empathy response is how it kind of backfires. Like I get that. Don't you get that this is how the world works because it works that way for me? And parents particularly struggle with this because your kid. looks like you kind of and is carrying all your hopes and dreams

and shouldn't they like or do what we do and here's where you can have your food and be like hey I went to Harvard you should go to Harvard and that can be an expectation or a dream of mine and then there's the way you damage your kid with that right which is I'm going to

secretly write your papers which I know someone who did that while she was at Harvard by the way Because that is so important that you uphold what I need you to uphold. And those kids are in a lot of pain. And that is someone not checking their foo at all, right? So why is what I did way more valuable for my kid to follow in my footsteps, then for my kid to be themselves, right?

And you're not saying this. I know that because of anyone whose foo is about letting you be yourself. You got a lot of that in our house growing up. up and and it's been really helpful for me because I I really let Peter be who he is and he is Scott Jr. And if he's not Scott Jr., he'll be something else. But like I have to give that kid a lot of space because I don't know what's coming. He came home from school yesterday and he goes, okay, mom, I want to be a mechanical engineer, but to make money, I'm going to be a welder on the side. Oh, like the little bit of flashdowns. Yeah, totally. And I was like,

I love that you think welders make way more than mechanical engineers, but also, you're not maybe wrong. Who nice? So that changes every minute. But like if I got hung up on any words coming out of his mouth or any, like, interest he's showing and just made that the new identity. And that's, I think, a common thing. Like, these kids are playing sports in third and fourth grade that are every weekend, all weekend, their identity gets formed so much around one or two. things that are so intense or maybe too many things, there's just not a lot of space. And you gosh yourself like, okay, is that parents? Is that the culture at large? Because I'm telling

you, there's no ninth grader running, trying to out for the basketball team first game. You know, like that's not what's happening. And so everyone feels this pressure. So some of it might be food stuff. Some of it might be, you know, societal pressures generally. So I have a question for both of you. Do either of your kids talk to you about this thing now? Like, are sometimes Carter and I talk about this sometimes and it's usually just her but I've also Nick's chimed in on it before but but she's like we're not you know she said things basically the effects is like well I'm not you dad I can't just get up and talk to you know I'm not good at this part and there's part of me that's like no but you can be because I don't think I always was

and I have to stop like part of your brain says oh no that's the good thing to do tell it lean into it and say no no no you can be better and here's how And instead try to assess the situation and actually appreciate where she's at and not just try to explain a way, oh, well, rub some dirt on it and move forward. Like, that is a, that is a tendency. I think everybody has that, right? If you're, especially the older you get. Of a certain age, yes. All that.

And it's just hard. But we talk about it. And, um, how about you, Brian? Do you talk about the chipmunk cheeks? Not at all. Nope. I don't know why. I mean, maybe it's come up as kind of like, oh, yeah.

You remember when you used to be a kid, he used to stuff food in your cheeks. And he's like, no, I was too young. I don't remember that. But it never really, like it only ever comes up as kind of like a, huh, remember that? That was funny, wasn't it? It's never like a, this really scarred me, dad. Right.

Would you make me do this? It really messed me up. So it might not be foo. You might have gone away with that one. I might have invaded, well, he does, he does eat. The kid eats so fast. Like, you go out, out to dinner with him. And he's done with his food by the time, you know, Tina and I are finished putting salt and pepper on our potatoes or something.

Like, he's already scarfed his whole plate. But he's skinny as real. So as long as his metabolism keeps up with that, then that's just fine. Then he'll not complain yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the tricky part. And this is maybe for any of our older parent listeners, like your kids are a little older, this is tricky.

kids have, first of all, they have access now to each other online and lots of different opinions and things, right? They're consuming a lot of different ways to navigate the world. And I think some of it is good and some of it could just be problematic and contagious. But a big piece is like going back to their parents to say, hey, this is how you hurt me. Or I am struggling now because you did that. these certain things. That is very difficult to really hear with an open heart, right? Because you gave everything to your little, you know, like that feeling of like, how dare you? Right.

Like there's a lot of compassion for that, especially if you have done it or you're in the thick of doing that, you do give them everything. Now, the best that you can do still might have created a kid who's not doing great. And that is really hard to look in the face. And so what comes naturally is we just blame. So maybe the kid's blaming you, and then you're blaming the kid. Well, if you just done the things I said, you know, blah, blah, blah. And really, the advice I would give to that is, you know, kind of hear what they have to say. Ask for a moment for you to digest it because your first reaction, usually will be the wrong one,

especially if defensive is how you feel. Like, wait a second. So I have a dumb example. So when I'm working, I can't answer the first. phone and Abe calls me stupid things randomly you know and now that kids all have phones they can just call when they want so he's just like oh did my blank get there you know it's always an amazon package or something and I don't answer so he he has spent a considerable amount of effort telling everyone it's funny that his mom doesn't answer the phone because that's not his

friends experiences they would wish their kid would call him and so he just finds a it funny that my mom doesn't even like me, she won't answer the phone. So he keeps playing this up. So when I meet his friends, they look at me so weird. And I'm like, no, I love him. What did he tell you? Like, I can tell. Anyway, and so I don't know if it's real. If he's just like, you're neglecting me and I need more attention. I don't know. But I also try to talk to him about it and, you know, whatever. We're going to find out in 10 years, guys. He's like, you know what? But if you had answered the phone when I was 16, I would feel better about my life. I don't know. It could be coming for me. I have no idea. But to be open to the feedback, right? And especially

when they're younger, they're going to do it maybe sarcastically like Abe is doing or, you know, some version of and a discussion. Listen, I'm not going to quit my job so I can answer his phone call. Can't do that. That's not why I'm going to do. But we can have a conversation where we talk about the real thing. Like, am I missing something here and can I do better? And that can happen throughout the lifespan, right? So if your adult child is just like, ugh, you can sense it and you feel defensive, well, there's probably something there that's been there a while. So that's kind of my main, if I can give one overarching vibe here, it is that you can fix your foo from your childhood and, you know, have that be way less impactful on your own kids and still strip your kids

a little bit. But in that process, you can communicate better. You can be more open. You can learn to drop your defenses and hear them out and know that everyone is at a developmentally different place. Right. So communicate. Communicate. Once again, the big C. That's always the same. Sorry. No, no, no, it's good. Well, I mean, you know, that's some people forget that often it is the same thing and they just need to focus in on it and do the do that, do the thing. And that's one of the things. That and therapy. The big tea. The big scene. The big tea. Woo! All right. Well, as always fun and interesting discussion to be had, if you've got thoughts or feelings about your own foo or a story or a problem you'd like to have us deal with on the show, you can send those into the morning stream

at gmail.com. That's the morning stream at gmail.com. Wendy, anything else you got going on? You want to mention? Yeah. Real steps round is going to start up again. And we're going to start the first Monday in March. So that's March. that's coming up yeah yeah so um the website at the moment can't let you sign up um but i am just starting to warm you all up uh but you can get put your email in and you'll get the announcements and all the information coming up so um that's happening soon so that starts march six um i would love this if someone could do this in between is send us a new year's resolution email or a wait i'm I need to lose weight, but I can't handle dieting one more time, you know, anything that's

sort of around this, ooh, you could combine it with food if you want, but just some version of like this age-old problem where we feel this natural need in January to change our lives forever and make everything better, right? And like, who's struggling with that? And yeah, any particular things people have questions about in how to create society? sustainable differences in your life rather than the, you know, go to the gym on February 10th, everyone's gone, right? Right now, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, right. Now it's like you got to fight for a treadmill. In a month. Oh, yeah. You'll have the whole place to yourself. Oh, yeah. You'll love

the gym in a month. Yeah. Just relax. Do you, do you think it'd be cool if one day we found out that Dave Grohl and his bandmates named at Foo Fighters, not because of the World War II thing, even though they maybe sought there, but they actually do it just they're fighting their family of origin issues. Yeah. That'd be cool. That'd be cool. I love it. That should be our theme song. Yeah. Dave Grohl seems pretty with it. His kids like him.

He does. He figured it out. Yeah. He's done his work. He's done his food. That's right. He broke the chain. He's broken his food chain.

Yeah, his food chain. He's high up on the food chain. All right. Have fun. We'll see you next week. Be safe. And we'll see you. Bye now.

All right. Bye. There you go. That was good stuff there. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoyed that, as always.

A couple of quick notes of interest. We have upcoming shows Coverville today at 1 p.m. That's right. Jeff Beck Tribute. That's right. Twitch.tv slash Coverville for that if you want to watch it live. And then tonight at 5 p.m. Core will be doing an episode. Very excited about this one. You can find us live right here at the FrogPants channel on Twitch. That's Twitch.com. Me, Bo and John, talking the world of video games and more.

Check the connection tomorrow at 2 p.m. Oh, guess the connection. What I say? Check the connection. Check the connection. Hey, check your connection. Like, is that, could you see if that thing is working? Could you check the connection? Can you wiggle that wire? That'll be tomorrow at two on the cover of the channel. There you go.

Some prizes and all that fun. So check that out. Couch party after that. We're doing a Friday the 13th horror edition. Horror movie. What's the horror movie we're watching? It's something we let Monica choose, which is great. The Nighthouse.

The Nighthouse. On HBO Max. Never heard of it. The psychological horror from this past summer. Never even heard of it. Totally down. The night house. The week after that, we're doing a,

um let's see what's the thing we're doing um oh uh and man the wasp after that man and the was is everything yeah yeah we want to get that from tomorrow is starting at man of the was because scott's got to see that before all this king business comes around yeah this this quantum mania stuff i don't know much about that's right you've got the setup for for king with the one who remains from loki and now we got to do the setup with uh ant man and wass yeah and if you're confused it all about couch party it is a patron only deal but here's the thing if you can't be there live we do put the audio up later uh i wish that we had a play i still have a solution for video it gets taken down no matter where i put it i tried archived i don't work i tried some real

seedy freaking backwater dark web stuff it got pulled there like it doesn't matter where i put it so what if we if we uh the video that we posted slowly like it sped us up about 8% or something like isn't there a thing where you can do that i don't know zoom in like on the corner of the corner of the video or whatever people do do that i don't know how long they get away with that, but they definitely do. No, I don't either. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, daily motion, same problem. I got pulled there. Um, so, oh, and Iichor says, did Scott see the first Antman? Yes, I did. I did. Did. Yes. Um, also, uh, the, uh, was I going to say, oh, no, but none of our, our Plex people have gotten back to me about whether they want to host it or not. So, I still think Plex is the best

solution, to be honest, because Plex is, you know, everybody. Plex is a, put whatever on that's right. That's right. The Wild West. Yeah, you own your own server. You do what you want. I don't know. Maybe nobody wants that kind of heat. I don't know. I know. Maybe we just set up our own place around.

What's involved with that? Yeah. Does it have to be a physical, tangible server? Can we do that with like an Amazon, you know, spin up an Amazon server or a Cloudways server or something? I do have an Amazon-A-W-S bucket, but I think that would be massive money at the end of the month to have file that big. It's like four gig worth of a movie or something. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

There's thoughts. working on it that's the key there um let's see what else uh oh in film sack this weekend we're doing that what's our episode what's our movie our movie is uh event horizon we're finally watching event horizon it'll be great for the second time to see event horizon finally uh no definitely what the heck is it it is uh i forgot i knew this i'm pulling it up right now it's catwoman we've moved cat woman yeah uh it is a blowout yeah that's right the one with uh that's right the one with John Travolta. Don't touch my hair.

Don't touch it. I've never heard of this movie. Karen Allen from the first Raiders, right? First and fourth. She was in the fourth as well. And the fourth? Yeah, Karen Allen. Yeah, Karen Allen.

I like her. Karen Allen, John Travolta, and an overheard conversation. And this is a highly regarded film. Is it? yes oh well i'm stoked excited to finally see it i don't remember i saw the conversation with uh jean hackman which was a similar storyline like somebody hears something that they shouldn't they get it

recorded like you know they're in the process and this i think in the case of john travolta he's like a a sound effects guy and he accidentally records a murder or something oh okay i'm in i'm in you've convinced me uh that's this weekend so check that out uh that's gonna do it. Please support us. P's. Please support us on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS, where all the fun can be had. You get all this bonus content we've been talking about, including daily content. And you'll never

hear an ad even once. Go check it out. Frogpants.com slash TMS is where to sign up. Do it today. Yeah. All right. We got to go now. Let's do a song. Yes. Now, this is a very long request that came in from Jamie Todd, a.k. W. K.K. I'm not going to read

all of it. And he even says, don't read all this because it's a lot. But poor Jamie is going through some stuff right he's his wife uh needing some uh neurosurgery for her some serious issues with her neck uh his mom isn't doing well in hospice and uh and his wife's mom also not doing well anyway uh so he needs a song and by golly we're going to give him the song and um i hope you enjoy this one it's not exactly the one you request at all it's one you you told me as a follow-up or as another option. Brain, let's see, where is it?

If you can find a cover of Unbound by Robbie Robertson, that'd be great, but if you can't, then another cover of one of the songs from that album would be great. This is a cover of another one of the songs from that great Robbie Robertson first album. A member of the band, the band that was called The Band, is where I know him best, and his stuff in there was great, too. This is a song called Broken Arrow, sung by Sweethearts of the Roald. rodeo from their 1993 album rodeo waltz here is broken arrow that'll do it for us we'll see you guys uh you know if none of those things on the weekend sound interesting i guess we'll see you

on monday okay yeah yeah jeez lame we can't help you there no not at all but we will be here then we'll see you then Who else is going to bring you, a broken arrow? Who else is going to bring you a bundle of rain? There you go. Moving across the water. There he goes Turning my whole world around

Do you feel what I feel Can we make it so that's part of the deal? I gotta hold you in these arms of a deal arms of steel Lay your heart on the line I want to breathe When you breathe When you whisper like that hot summer breeze

Count the beads Count the beads of sweat that cover me Didn't you show me a sign? me a sign. Who else is going to bring you a broken arrow? Who else is going to bring you a bottle of rain? There you go. Moving across the water

There he goes, turning my whole world around. Do you see what I see? Can you cut behind the mystery? I will meet you by the witness tree Leave the whole world behind I want to come when you call I'll get to you if I'll have to crawl They can't hold me in these iron walls

We've got mountains to climb Who else is gonna bring you a broken arrow Who else is gonna bring you A bottle of rain Who else is gonna bring you A broken arrow Who else is gonna bring you A bottle of rain

There he goes Moving across the water There he goes Turning my whole world around Turning my whole world around Turning my whole world around. Thank you. I'm going to be able to be.

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