The Morning Stream - TMS 2408: Optimistically Pessimistic!

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

Ginko Bologna. Up your carb hole. The Last Mandalorians of Us. That's appropriation, mate! Pasties and Meatballs. All Those People Are Dead. The throat in the back of the neck thing. The Free Hotel Ro...om is still Free. I have a question about 1 hour 28 minutes into episode 739. Lisa Loeb Might Stay. (s) Bowie, Bowie your hair is a mess. Tater Pillers. Uh Oh! No Spaghettios! Feral colon. 4000 Characters Of Tom Merritt. Murder porn Recommentals and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, Ginko Bologna. Up your carbhole. The last Mandalorians of us. That's appropriation, mate. Pastys and meatballs. All those people are dead. The throat is in the back of the neck thing. The free hotel room is still free.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I have a question about one hour, 28 minutes into episode 739. Lisa Loeb might stay. Bowie, Bowie, Bowie, your hair is a mess. Taterpillars. Uh-oh, no spaghettios. Ferrell colon. 4,000 characters of Tom Merritt. Murder porn recommendals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:00:36 This has been Cheering, makes school fun, the program that helps you improve yourself and find out about quality cheerleading and young people. This program is made possible by the prayers in support of cheerleaders and viewers through across the country. The morning stream. There can be only one. Gutenmorgan and welcome to the morning stream. It's Wednesday, January 18th, 2020, 2, 3, 3. Oh, that's my first one I messed up. That's the first one. We made it all the way to the 18th. I felt pretty good about it. All the shows I got right, I got it right on here and then screwed that. up what the frick well anyway whatever there's always tomorrow uh i'm scott johnson that's brian ibitt hi brian hi scott see this is why this is why streaks are are dumb and we shouldn't worry about them
Starting point is 00:01:39 you're right because you're just gonna it's because all they do is is cause you to get upset when the streak is broken you're right they set you up for we'll have a beer and let's talk about it yeah yeah exactly see uh hey so we're back and uh we got a show it's wednesday we got all the stuff we do on Wednesday so that'll be fun um I uh man I just noticed this morning I'm putting all the recommendals together you know just getting I ready to line them up and I realize I always pick the most oppressing things why do I do that I don't know why I do is it is it because you watch like is it because that's that's all you it's not all you watch no no no right but is it mostly what you watch I just I guess I'm drawn to things that are hmm
Starting point is 00:02:26 How do I explain this? Hard hitting, heavy. No one's really asked me this. No one's ever asked me this before, but I think you might be on to something. Like, I'll watch, when I used to watch cops, before I found out how fake a lot of cops is, I would watch it for the catharsis of it. Because, you know, if I was having a bad day,
Starting point is 00:02:44 it didn't matter because this other guy was having a way worse day than me. So there's always like this feeling of, oh, all right, well, there's a guy on meth, half naked dancing on the front of a Buick. and there's 15 cops around with tasers named at him, he is having a worse time than I am having. Well, he currently, while he's dancing on that cop car, is having a great time, but he's about to have the worst time.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, he's about to have a really, really rough time. So, I don't know, that's part of it. Part of it is I like to, I like documentaries, and they're often about controversial and or depressing topics. That's just usually how they work. And maybe the word depressing is probably not the right one. it's like it's a moving you know it's uh sure thought provoking yeah some some of it is is that it's like get out of your norm and be faced with something you didn't know before so there's some
Starting point is 00:03:36 of that but also you know if you tell me uh you know what what what what show am i going to set off to the side for later viewing there's lots of those but why am i going to watch the last of us day and date every day or every time it comes out well probably because i'm drawn to apocalyptic stories for whatever reason. I don't know. I can't quite figure it out, but nonetheless, speaking of that, Pedro Pascal, big right now, right? He's in everything. Yes, he's having a moment. He's having a moment. He's about to have a double moment where the Mandalorian will literally air at the same time as the last one. There's that incredible crossover episode of, uh, oh, I can't wait. He'll, the last Mandalorians of us. Yep, they'll put her in a floating egg
Starting point is 00:04:20 and he'll she'll be playing with a little metal sphere and he's like trying to take it away from her yeah she'll say are we supposed to go through here and he'll say no and he'll point the other way and say this is the way and I'll do that well anyway Pedro Pascal I was listening to his interview with him yesterday
Starting point is 00:04:38 and I think he's a fascinating guy interesting guy and it occurs to me in his normal talking voice when he's just talking to people without blinds speaking as Pedro Pascal Yes, and not as some character exactly. He sounds like Alan Alda to me.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Really? Okay, I got to hear this. I brought you a clip, Brian. All right. I'm theater of the mind. This is good because I won't, I'll just be hearing him and I won't be seeing him, so I won't be distracted by his strikingly handsome looks. I know, right? It's like, it's hard enough to hold back when I see him normally, but in here we have to like ignore it. So here it is.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Here's the audio of him, just random stuff he's talking about, but I hear Alan Alda in this. voice. A little bit of Hawkeye. Here you go. I called somebody and I said, I mean, I cried. It's a stretch. It's a stretch, but there's something in the hatch. Yeah, there's something there. There's a little bit of a, there's a thing where your tongue is kind of near the back of your throat. Yeah. Alan Alde has that a lot. Your beach. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we can meet ball surgery here, Beech, you know, that sort of thing. So I kind of hear it. It's that little back of the throat in the back of the neck or the tongue of the back of the throat thing yeah the throat in the back of the neck oh the throat in the back in the neck yeah uh but he's like uh you just listen to him many many amount of time outside of his acting and it's just i couldn't stop thinking
Starting point is 00:06:06 about and all then i realize it's not overt it's not like oh yeah he sounds i don't i know i'm not saying that but it definitely sounds enough like him that it's going to distract me in the future it's going to not bother me, but distract me, you know? Well, when they reboot MASH at some point, boom! They'll get around to it, for sure. Then he can be your guy. He can be your guy.
Starting point is 00:06:29 He would be a great hawkeye. It would be a great hawkye. I think about this sometimes. Even though we haven't seen him play a doctor, he looks like you'd play a great doctor, you know? Yeah, and he looks like he would get a little scruffy out, you know, in Korea or wherever they said it. And that's fine. You want that.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He could womanize and drink a lot of, what, are those called those things they drink martinis martinis yes yeah you totally do this totally this would be great yeah i'm all in i'm all in on this also there is a very cute picture of him oh no that's a spoiler i won't tell you that i will say this because i know you've seen it um there's a certain actress in that show in the first episode that is so familiar to me it drove me crazy the entire time. Oh, is it, does she kind of, she appears kind of on the fringe of the episode, right? Um, let's say she appears on the, yeah, that's fair to say.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But, uh, what I found out is that she's, this is, this is not going to spoil anything unless you guys go follow this up and look it up. Okay. So don't go look this up. But that person is the daughter of, um, Dandy Newton or Tandy Newton, how do you say her name. Oh, really? Yeah. And it, the whole time I was looking at her going, oh, she's so familiar.
Starting point is 00:07:41 familiar. That's hilarious because I absolutely like, I commented Tina, she looks like Tandy Newton, holy cow. Yeah. And it was it. She is. So we're not telling about the woman that kind of appears on the fringe of the episode. No, no, no. Why is that playing?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Hang out in the fringes. No, not her. Not that fringy fringe. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah, totally see Tandy Newton in her. No wonder. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, she was very good also. She was very good. Yeah. Might be better than her mom. All right. No offense. I think Tanny Newton is an excellent action.
Starting point is 00:08:14 There's nothing wrong with her. She's great. Yes. I don't, you know, no shade her direction other than my, in an unintentional thing about whichever mission impossible it was, that she was in.
Starting point is 00:08:23 That's right. Oh, wait, was she in one of those? I didn't know that. Yeah, she was in one of those, yeah. Was it when we watched her?
Starting point is 00:08:28 The one we watched for film sack, as a matter of fact. Oh. Because we saw two in one, one and two. Was she in two? We saw one and two, right.
Starting point is 00:08:33 She was in two. Okay. The John Wu one. I like the John Wu one. Yeah. It's not very popular with everybody, but I like that one. I like it when the doves flew up in slow motion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That always happens in his movies, which is your point. And also, Tom Cruise had cool long hair in that one. And he doesn't really do that very often. It never really has the long hair. Tina and I, we did mystery date this last weekend, and Tina took me to this place called Ophelia's. And at night, it's called a gastrobrothal. so it's a restaurant that that place actually did used to be
Starting point is 00:09:10 a brothel at one point so they have a stage and they have bands on there Lisa Loeb of all people is going to be performing there at the beginning of February maybe she'll stay yeah it's her big hit man you got to reference it
Starting point is 00:09:26 but they also do I think burlesque shows but because it was a Sunday morning or Saturday morning it was it was Bowie Brunch because it was right around the anniversary of both his birthday and his passing like basically it was bam right in the middle
Starting point is 00:09:44 between the those two events and so they had a big screen big projected screen and they were they had a DJ who was mixing Bowie songs and then they were showing videos of David Bowie and that guy talked about like going from short hair to long hair at all different hair links
Starting point is 00:10:02 Bowie had had, had all of it. Do you have a, do you have a Bowie era preference? Because I kind of like his, I like older Bowie. I like, I thought he looked cool. Do you really like Bowie, like Ziggy Stardust era Bowie? No, no, like I don't mean older that way. I mean older this way.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, older, newer, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like more recent Bowie, yes. Like his, he aged really cool, I thought. He did, yeah. There's a, there's a hairstyle he had. So he did the whole three-piece suit thing with the really short hair. Yeah. then he kind of let it grow out so it was kind of like kind of grunge looking and that's kind of the
Starting point is 00:10:38 the one yeah that's high point i thought that was really cool and it surprised me because how many people from the 70s who did glam rock can look that cool in their later years very very few very few and he's one of those people that i was looking you know because they were showing a lot of interviews and music videos i was looking at his eyes and saying you know there's somebody whose eyes and eyebrows If you just isolated that and showed it to somebody, I'd say seven out of ten people would be able to recognize that as David Bowie. Yeah. And they have any specials?
Starting point is 00:11:09 At least people of a certain age. They have any brunchy type things that were named after him or, you know. No, no, they had their regular menu. This is the first time we've ever been there. But, oh, look at that. Somebody found, like, AV Tech John found like a grid of Bowie haircuts and hairstyles. Oh, this is great. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:11:29 that's all yeah this is this oh whoops I get the thing up this is yeah see this is a great okay so what I'm looking at okay I'm going to pick a favorite favorite here yeah yeah I'm saying
Starting point is 00:11:44 second row from the bottom third picture from the right let's see third from the right holding the microphone okay yeah I like that one the one if you go two more over to the left from that he looks like Dave
Starting point is 00:11:58 Grohl weirdly. He kind of does. Like Dave Grohl and Tiny Tim. Yeah. He was all over the place. I think that, yeah, I think I agree. I like that one. I kind of like,
Starting point is 00:12:09 pretty distinguished-looking stuff down hard on the bottom row. I like this stuff, too. Yeah. Oh, he was cool, man. He was cool. He was always cool. What a stud. Even with that wacky-ass codpiece and labyrinth, the dude still was cool.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like, nobody could pull that thing off. Yeah, and he could work a pair of last. pull that off. No, no, no. He could work a pair of glass balls like nobody's business. He certainly could, although he couldn't. Oh, yeah, that's right. It was somebody else. That's the guy standing behind him. My favorite bit of trivia ever.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It's so weird. So weird. We watch that for Film Sack and all I could do is think of that guy who's just right over there, putting his arms through there, doing this. Sarah. Sarah. So good. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:12:56 moving on. Hey, we got to get some good news. It's such good news. I think I'm going to play a thing for it. Hold on. Free hotel room is alive and well. He's great. Yay! Yeah, he's doing fine.
Starting point is 00:13:08 We got an email from Barb, aka the adjoining room. This is his wife. Yes. I love that name. The adjoining room says, Fear Not, Bob, aka FHR, is alive and kicking. He still listens to you every day,
Starting point is 00:13:21 but he hasn't commented lately because I chastised him for being some troll-like. I love it. It pleased him to no end to hear you guys wondered about him in the podcast. Much love Barb. Well, good. I'm glad. I'm glad he's good. And I'm glad somebody out there checked on him.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And, you know, we don't know. I hear about these people in our community and we hear their names a lot. And then if they disappear, it freaks us out. It does. Yeah. We still think about a lot of the, you know, the names that were so prominent in the chat room over the years. Yeah, like TV's Egon. Here's another good example.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Guy's fine. I checked in on him. He's totally fine. But he disappeared from the chat room. I don't know what you people did to him. I don't know what you did. Yeah, yeah. But he still listens.
Starting point is 00:14:03 He's, you know, he's out there. He just... I hear he hates it when people just type the letters TMS during our intro. He hates that. Oh, he must hate, yeah. And every day, every day. Yeah, Iceworm is still doing great as well. He, um, when you see, when you go to quicktms.
Starting point is 00:14:20 l.I and you see all those music links, um, for the songs that we play on the show. That's him putting those in there. Like, he does those while I, I do all of the recommendals and Amy's books and Punish Prop stuff. Yeah, we talk to him all the time. He's doing good. Ice warm is still doing great. Yeah, his ice is still warm.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And then who's the dude in Atlanta that was super into us for a minute and then fell off? But he was like, had questions all the time. And we talked him on the phone once. Oh, you met him. And then he came out to one nerdtacular during a Q&A segment. And he brought out his list. His list. And he was asking questions that targeted like specific.
Starting point is 00:14:58 time codes of episodes. Yeah. Like it was the Shatner SNL Star Trek bit almost. Yeah, it was a bit much at the time. But I think he fell off. He was just like, too. He did.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Because I think here's what, here's the problem though. Just no shade in his direction. Okay. No, of course not. But when you are that obsessed with literally timestamp code questions, I think that's a,
Starting point is 00:15:25 that's a recipe for burnout. It is. It's a star. Your star is glowing too bright and it's going to burn itself out if you keep that up. You're not going to last. And so I'm sad about that, but I hope wherever he is, he's doing good. I still think about E. David Croft all the time because he always had, he came up with the most amazing gifts really quick. That picture of me picking up the chicken.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, which is still an all-time classic. It's an all-time classic. Like just the ability to place a chicken in front of that phone and have it all work in the video is great. Yeah, what happened to that guy? You know? Yeah, I don't know. I hope he's okay. That's our whole point here.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It's okay that you're not here. We're more worried that you're all fine. Yes. All right. Is Seamus okay? I don't know. Someone check on Seamus. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He was more of a team or was more of an ELR instance guy, but still, you know, still worry. Also, I copied you on a thing today. This reminds me of this for some reason on Twitter. You may not have seen it. Oh, yes, I did see it about sabotage. Do you think that's where that happened was reading that? I would reply it if my Twitter ethic was working, but we all know what's happening with that. Freaking, these third-party apps, they killed.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm so pissed. They found out that it was intentional. There's internal Slack. Slack messages at Twitter where they're like, yeah, we need to cut these guys off and sucks, man. I realize they don't get ad revenue from it, but don't have the API in the first place then. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yes. Bastards. That sucks. But anyway, yes, the sabotage thing. Easily could have come from the session that that photo was taken from. Nice. Nice. Oh, don't remind me, chat.
Starting point is 00:16:58 those new M2 minis came out yesterday I'm tempted my M1 is fine I don't really I'm in no rush but the two M2 is you know it's tempting yeah they don't have a new M2 studio right I thought the studio was M2 at the gate no oh really I could be I could be totally wrong on that uh no M1 max or M1 Ultra that's that's the next one I'm buying because I am so irritated that that I didn't configure this with more RAM and oh and you're kind of scary old, it's next to impossible to add RAM to an M1 mini. That is true. I'll bet
Starting point is 00:17:35 the M2 update on the studio is probably on its way then if this is happening with the movies. And then that'll drop the price, hopefully, of the... I'm fine with the M1 Macs Studio, actually. Oh, I would be too. I just don't want to... Spend the money. Yeah, you'll me both. I know. It's pricey.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I need to drive a lot of people to the Panera bread in my lift to make that all work. I love, do you go a lot? Is that a common drop-off? No, exactly. I don't think I've ever done that. It's more picking the people from Walmart or just taking them from one person's house to, from their house to another person's house, or picking them up from a house where they spent the night back to their house. Had anybody drunk lately? Has it all been pretty above board?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I did. I had a guy. I picked him up. It was about 1 o'clock in the afternoon and pick him up. And there's that kind of... of reeking of alcohol that people who are on a bender, especially certain kinds of alcohol, whiskey and vodka can do that. And I pick him up and say, hey, how's your day going so far? He's like, ah, not too bad. I'm back living at my dad's house, moved here back from Austin. I'm like, oh, okay, well, good to be back in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:18:52 He's like, well, you know, it's good to be back in Colorado, but I had to sell my house. And I was an engineer at Toyota, but, uh, well, let's just say, yeah, I'm not an alcoholic, but me and the bottle have had our, our good and bad times together. Like, oh, well, it looks like I'm driving you to blackjack pizza. And he says, well, blackjack pizza is what came up in the map, but you're taking me to the liquor store right next door of the black check pizza. Oh, man. It's like, oh, dude. That's too bad.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But look at you being all Sam, the bartender. I like it. You're just helping him out. there was another, I drove somebody for 45 minutes, one into town to the other a couple days ago, who one of the first things he told me was that he's paranoid schizophrenic. And he's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:39 but I just appreciate the fact that you're talking to me because a lot of lift rides you get in, the driver's just completely silent, or they're having a conversation on their phone, on their AirPods, or something like that, and they just kind of ignore. And it's like, oh, I try to talk to everybody. and I'll always listen and I'll only offer advice if you ask for it. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:20:03 No, that's good. I think that's good because most these drivers are just like, where are you going or just sitting there, you know, because they already know where you're going. They don't even have to, yeah, exactly. They confirm your name and then they just kind of grunt the whole rest of the time. Because back in the taxi days, at least had to wear two Mac, you know. Yeah, right. I think that's the stereotype.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I need to go to such and such. Oh, well, I'm going to take the tunnel. No, don't take the tunnel. Kind of good the other way. Five o'clock. Kind of George Costanza that thing. All right, well, that's been your lift update. Be courteous and obey traffic regulations.
Starting point is 00:20:32 All right, we will. Perfect. Just one other quick note, if you're coming to Viva, TMS, Vegas, one of the things we do there that we started doing last year, and I think we're going to do every year, is a video game tournament, or really an arcade tournament, because they've got pinball as well.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And I think I'm going to insist that any time somebody plays a game against me, it's on pinball. Oh, look at it. you with the I'll let them pick the machine but I want to play pinball
Starting point is 00:20:58 anyway it's at player one or whatever it's called I can't remember but you pay a small cover charge
Starting point is 00:21:04 and then you get access to all their arcade games and it's all free to play and they have a great bar and we do a tournament there every year
Starting point is 00:21:13 it's awesome low stakes friendly and it's amazing how well that thing worked as an ice breaker for people like there were
Starting point is 00:21:23 people I saw hanging out through the rest of the of TMS Vegas after doing that they were like oh yeah we just met at the we played a game against each other in the tournament thing and and now we're totally hanging out we're best buds yeah yeah it's awesome the only complaint I had about that whole place was that the asteroids deluxe had broken buttons that was it other than that place that's the kind of place I would go all the time if it were here oh I know yeah love it so anyway that's all part of it if you want to
Starting point is 00:21:49 play go sign up at VivaTMS Vegas dot com I'm going to build the brackets um As soon as we get that whole thing filled up. I think we'll do, we'll cap it at 64 this time around because trying to maintain two brackets was a real pain in the butt last time. Yeah, that's a lot. 64 of you get to play in the tournament. So if you want to play, you better go over there, VivaTMSVegas.com and sign up. Yep, don't forget, your tickets are now available for both swag only and tickets.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yes. So it's all at the same place, VivaTMSVagus.com. Yes. All right. Done away time. Yay! We like him. He's cool.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We do like him. You know, I like him a lot. Yes, he is really good people. He's a good peepoo. He's a good peepoo. He's a good peepoo. Yep, everyone likes a good peepoo. Hey, Brian Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:22:42 What are you doing there, man? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi. Oh, hi, Brian. Hi. It's nice to have you. Well, as I doing, I was messing around with my audio equipment to see if I could do something different. But then I just said, forget it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 fell back to the same old audio oh hi oh hi it's nice to have you here hey uh we uh any chance we could get you out to tms vgas this time around brian uh that's a good question that's a good question i've thought about it but i haven't had a chance to research it what's the date i was going to go look at last week of the third through the 27 yeah i'm not saying no i can't say yes either so you're not saying no yeah yeah give it some time do it was i'm saying no no you know I'll put you on the spot here, but I was like, oh, no, you're talking about something I've talked about for like, ohms. Oms? Oms.
Starting point is 00:23:33 We lost them. Holmes. Oh, there you're back. You're back. What's up Holmes? Yeah, it sounds like you got cut off. That's what it sounded like. If it ends up happening, it'll be a glorious thing.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I will, I will rework everything we're doing to fit you into some of the special stuff I have planned. Well, it's very exciting. I will do it. I will do my best. if not, 2024 is probably my best bet, but I'm still trying. I'm still trying. All right, we have our third person who I have chosen from the Tadpool today who pinged in as a potential contestant today or a possible winner.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And they're now on the line. Hi, Lucky Phil. How are you? Oh, hi, Scott. Brian, Brian. How are we doing? Good, good. Oh, hi. Where do you hail?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Where are you from? I'm in Sydney, mate. Oh, that's awesome, dude. Oh, what time is it like a... What time is it there? Oh, excellent. It is currently... but a clock also then it's 3.308.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That's just Brian. You people who listen live to this show from like Australia or the UK or Ireland or wherever. Like it just, I'm sorry, Northern Ireland. It just amazes me that you stay awake long enough to listen to us. Yeah, that's a while. I worked nice on weekends, so it works that all right. All right. Nice.
Starting point is 00:24:46 3.30. That's when Brian Ibbott gets up because he can't go back to sleep. That's a normal time. It was. It was again this morning, too. Oh, man. I finished the third season of. Harley Quinn and
Starting point is 00:24:56 oh nice and then watched YouTube videos trying to because those usually put me to sleep is like oh I need to watch this video about how to crimp wires for this thing so I'm like oh watch that now because I usually fall asleep while I'm sitting in my desk having to watch one of those that's amazing
Starting point is 00:25:10 well it's good to have you here I'm very excited to have somebody from overseas on today and we're going to play some games and explain how it works and what you might win Brian take it away I will I'm going to give Scott a welcome to the it's the family feud Wait a minute. Why does that say that?
Starting point is 00:25:26 That should be this. The Tad Pooley Feud. It's time to play the Tad Pooley Feud. I've surveyed the Tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Lucky Phil, we're going to test your name right now. Your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
Starting point is 00:25:45 If your team wins, you'll get a prize package that includes Rise, Son of Rome, and Droffle 2. Oh, very popular in these parts. Yeah, they're very good. And those codes will work in Australia, I'm told. They're international codes. Yeah. Very good. No region.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So, let's give the boys their topic here, and we can see who's going to get you. We asked 510 tadpoolers, and only one person said pass. Only one person. And so what's great is that they know who they are right now. They're listening to this knowing that. Well, I'm the chump that said pass on this question. 100%. Pai-ish.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Exactly. No safety and numbers for you, buddy. All right. Hands on buzzers. What's your favorite pasta dish? Now, Scott. Spaghetti's got to be up there. It's not my favorite.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Show me, can you be more specific? Oh. Oh, geez. Is there a... Yeah, there's a bunch of different kinds of spaghetti. There are? It's been on this one. Can you be more specific?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Spaghetti. I don't. Just say it. This shows how bad I am at food stuff. I can't think of variations of spaghetti. Lady in the Tramp. Just think Lady of the Tram. Spaghetti and meatballs there.
Starting point is 00:27:05 There you go. All right. Show me spaghetti and meatballs. That was painful. Number three, two answers will beat it. Brian, what's your... Cripes. The Tadpool's favorite pasta dish.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They like a bunch of Garfield lovers. How about some lasagna? Oh, damn it. All right. Show me lasagna. Damn it. number one answer on the board so you're going to be working with lucky phil zanya which is good because he's lucky so he'll help you out a lot yeah yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not aware does the austrians that eat a lot of pasta is that a is that a dish down there we do we have quite a lot of chinese community um but um yeah overall we just love our fetti cubs now do you guys say pasta okay you say pasta okay you say pasta okay There's some countries where it's pronounced pasta, right?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Right, so he brings bacon? Yeah, I call them pasties, and I put some on my nipples. Wow. That's the reason why you get those, that's why you get those looks at the restaurants, Scott. Yeah, when you can get the spaghetti to spin around in opposite directions at the same time, that's the guest. Yeah, that's when you get the center stage treatment. Mm. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:15 All right. Brian and Phil, what else he got? Phil, you got anything else top of your head? I'm thinking, I mean, maybe a carbunara. Oh, that sounds interesting. Yes, let's do that. Carbonara, sure. This is when you cook it with bacon or some sort of cured pork.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, and eggs. It's basically bacon and eggs and cheese with spaghetti or pasta. Oh, now you've got me. That sounds great. Let's see if we've got some carbunar on here. Sure do. Number four. Cadpool loves their spaghetti carbonara.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Of course they do. It's got carb right there in the name. Oh, now I see. Yeah, now I see. Yeah. Well, but you got the better of the two. That's true. I feel you got another pasta love and lover?
Starting point is 00:29:08 I'm thinking ball and ice is the obvious one. Okay. Okay. We're going to go with that. Brian has a very, I'll take your word for it. As we call it, as we call it in Australia, Spag Bowl. Spag ball Spagball?
Starting point is 00:29:22 We call it Spagball. Oh my gosh, that's great. Can I call? Can we do that from now on? Are we allowed to call that? That's awesome. I want to say that from now on. Oh, you caught.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That's appropriation, man. That's fine. You know what? One of my bucket list was to have an Australian say, that's appropriation mate. I wanted that. I wanted it. Now I can check it off. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:48 That was awesome. All right. Show me. Bolognese. Yeah. Y'all look at that as well because it's nice and spicy. So these are all, I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:29:58 these were all spaghetti forms. They don't have to be. You can do, yeah, you can do like a penny bolognese or a but what I did was when I got the answers from the chat room, if they had a bunch of like
Starting point is 00:30:14 Carbonara's, but it was like Penny Carbonara or Fettuccini Carbonara or whatever, I took whatever had the most, in this case, spaghetti carbunara, and added the other Carbinaras to it. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. That makes great sense. Well, you guys are a hell of a lead so far.
Starting point is 00:30:30 What else you got over there? Not doing bad. Well, Lucky Phil has been lucky so far. I'm going to go back to the well again. If Phil has another one, do it. I'm wondering if Nyoki would be a bit too niche or if that would be on there. I don't even heard of that. I haven't either. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Well,
Starting point is 00:30:48 Maybe some Fettuccini. Maybe Fettuccini. Oh, so yes, some Fettuccini. Do we have to specify any more than that? Give me a sauce.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Fetuccini Alfredo. Let's do that one. Alfredo is the most popular one. It is the most popular one. Show me Fettuccini Alfredo. Yeah. There you go. That's for those
Starting point is 00:31:10 Olive Garden lovers. There you go. There's your answer. I want to know more about this notchi or nochi thing. Yoki? Yoki. They're like little. almost dumplings.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's like potato pillows. Oh, I do like those. You know what? I've had it. It's just there as a mechanism to soak up the sauce. That's right. I've had that. They don't know where potato pillows are.
Starting point is 00:31:35 They make them in Idaho. No, I've never, I have had that and just didn't know what it was called. Those are very, very good. Yeah. Yeah, there's a place near us that used to have the best duck milky, but they started putting less and less duck in it. And now they don't even have it on the menu. So it's like, all right, well, we're never going there again because that was their only good thing.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah, yeah. All right. You guys are on the role of a lifetime here. What's, uh, what else we got? I'd be a fool to try to, I'd be a fool to try to guess anything when Phil is on a hot streak. So, uh, unless you have run out, give it another world, Phil. I'm having a brain fart and maybe you should, you should, uh, you should tag you. That's too much pasta.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I'll give you a brain fart. That's what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, let's see, we got, uh, we got, uh, Bolognese on here, we get the fettigetrived lasagna. So, I mean, the trash pasta is up there. Lazzania and Fetitina Alfredo.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Trash pasta. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I like, I like a nice, I'm, I like a nice, nice, a ravioli. Oh, damn it. Oh, lovely.
Starting point is 00:32:36 The ravioli. You poo head. All right. That was mine. Uh, show me ravioli. Oh, shit. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What's funny is that most people said, Ravioli. But then people just said, oh, ravioli and sauce. Like you'd have it just, well, I'd take that back. Tina and I have had like a really good pumpkin ravioli with those. Oh, you know what's weird is that is how good pumpkin ravioli is. It is unbelievably good.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Oh, I think I have a good one. What do you got? Oh, Phil, give it to us. Bloody hell, Macquarie and Cheesman. Oh, that's perfect. Now you're thinking, now you're thinking like Brian. That's awesome. all right mac and cheese we're going back in cheese the macaroni give me the macaroni cheese not necessarily made by craft number six nice nice see here we think of that as complete trash microwave food but it's you can do it right it's good you can do it right yeah you can do it right yeah all right
Starting point is 00:33:39 all right you guys are running the damn board here my gosh killing me clara how would I piss off the Italians I said cured pork and you guys all said bacon and stuff like that the original original is cured pork. Ginsonale or G. Jensenale. Her exact quote is, in all caps, you will all die at the hands of the Italians. That might just be a general prediction. No, because earlier, she said something like Brian, Brian's never pissed off an Italian before. You guys are going to get some.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Also, that's a broad assumption. Maybe he's pissed off plenty of Italians. We don't know. Exactly. Me or just an Ibit, which one? Oh, maybe she's talking about you. Not you other, Brian. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Okay. It's you. Right, right. Other Brian. See, this is the hard part. This is the trick with the Bryans. It's hard. I have a lot of Italian friends, and they're always, all my Italian friends are laid back and chill.
Starting point is 00:34:29 They're going to make fun of me as much as I'm going to make fun of them. Yeah, look, they're 1940s-era Italians. Those aren't around anymore. We're good. They know that my teasing only goes as far as pasta. After that, I have no Italian jokes. No, you're all done, Mario. I will say that this feud is making me so hungry.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I know, dude. It really is. I'm supposed to cut back on pastas, but I'm, you know, I'll make an exception today because this is making me hungry. Go to noodles and company and get some zoodles. Oh, yeah, the zoodles are all right, although sometimes there's more water in there than I'm comfortable with, you know? Or some potato pillows. Yeah, or some pillows. GMS where every day's a cheat day.
Starting point is 00:35:07 That's right. That's right. You got anything else up your carb hole there, feel? My carb hole. That's going to be the name of my new Italian restaurant. The Carboh. We've had ravioli, how about that's tortellini. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Tortellini. You guys just keep taking my good ones. All right. That makes me think of another one. Show me. Show me tortellini. Oh, what? Tortilini, popular enough to make it to number 18 on the list.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Okay. Well, this is... Scott finally gets another chance. Yeah, and you guys took all my shit. I don't even know some of this stuff. I'll just say, oh, it's the Tadpole. Maybe they did this because they're jokesters. This is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's not a bad idea. I can't win anyway, right? Right, Brian? I can't win. I think you could, actually. There's still 27 points on the board. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he'd win, but Phil's definitely going to win either way, because if he runs the board, it's got wins. I think so. I think, yeah, because Scott, yeah, right, if Scott gets into.
Starting point is 00:36:24 If Scott loses, Phil. Right. Okay. Yeah. So, so Phil, you've won. You're a winner. Phil, you've won the prizes. Now we're just playing for bragging rights. By the way, thank you for putting these pictures of pasta dishes into our discord and pushing away that gross, invisible creature that Bobby put in there yesterday. Oh, yeah. I saw that way. Yon yucky, one of those cooked, the other ones uncoached. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:51 All right, the only other thing I can think of is a reference to an old TMS meme, which I at the time didn't know what it was or how to say it because, again, I'm the antithesis of a foodie. I don't know the terms, but isn't creamy peen a thing or pen A, sorry. There you go. That's a pasta shape, at least. That's a throwback. Yeah, that is a throwback. But isn't that, that's a thing, right? Yeah, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, absolutely. Show me. Don't show me. Is Creamy Pene up there? Show me a creamy pain. Show me your creamy bean. Number 15, enough people still liked the Creamy Pene meme. Great.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Great. Even the dupist that said pass could have said that. Yeah. It would have been better than just saying pass. Yeah. But now more people are going to want to be a dufist. This is the problem. going to want to do. Oh, we lost Dunaway. You'll get
Starting point is 00:37:48 attention calling it. Exactly. We lost Don't know. Let me re-ring him. There we go. I don't know why Donaway dropped off, but he did. Hold on here. Let's see. Lucky Phil remains lucky and it's still here. But unlucky Brian. Hold on here. Let's see. He's... Oh, no. We're ringing him. We're ringing him.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I mean, we can still continue without him. It's not like we'll die. That's true. All right. Well, we'll let... Oh, there he is. Brian, you back? You back? You back? You know it would be a really good time to do a window. was update reboot. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Restarting in five, four, three. All right, Brian, it's back to you. You and Lucky Phil have a chance here to run the board and kill me. Billy, you got another answer? I guess you haven't run the board, but. Just having a bit of a think. Well, how about some? Tetrazini's a thing, right?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Tetrazini. That is a thing. Is it a thing? I don't know. I'm not sure if that'll be popular enough there. If tortellini didn't get it. See, that's my, I'm concerned now because tortellini, I was absolutely sure it'd be on here. This blows my mind.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh, would you consider beef stroganoff of a pasta dish? Oh, I would, but I live in the South. Everything's a pasta dish in the South. So hold on a second. Stroganoff is noodles. It's noodles. It's pasta. It's got noodles in there.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's got the little wavy noodles in it, yeah. Yeah, I don't know why I'm helping, but yeah, that sounds like a real thing. It's made with white, flat noodles. like similar to fettuccini so I do like a good stroke enough you like it a sauce you like you the sauce one of the best
Starting point is 00:39:25 Descenae things ever It was one of the best Estesnel skits and that's one that that comes up frequently with Dana Carvey and David Spade on that show is because this was such a great sketch with the two of them
Starting point is 00:39:37 together in it you should see so the Chris Farley documentary I recommended on the recommendals years ago or months ago he talks about Or they talk about that skit and how Farley wasn't even supposed to be in it. And the fact that he showed up in a giant fake beard, he almost made it impossible for them to get it done. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It completely broke so many of them. Yeah, they just couldn't handle it when he was there. Yeah. That's really funny. People should watch a dog. Anyway. So beef stroganoff, is that what you're going with? Do it.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm stroking off. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking you're strogan off for a cup noodle. Oh, what's a cup noodle? Cup noodle ramen, yeah. Oh, yeah. See, that's the thing is the tadpool may say dumb stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Well, anyway. It's the 10-pool. I never did say Italian, right? I just said your favorite pasta dish. It's past dish. So it could be noodles in a cup. That's true. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's not bad. So which one are you going with? Oh, I don't bloody know. Do strogan off. Let's go strogan off. Let's go strogan off. Show me strogan off. That's one here, done away, say stroking off one more time.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah, he keeps saying, exactly. He's going to milk that joke. Number 21 on the list was beef stroking. I saw a joke. That's how I say it. I believe you. I do. I believe that you come home and say,
Starting point is 00:40:56 ooh, I smell stroking off. I'd like you to isolate out. It's not a joke. That's how I say it. I want that to be a permanent audio clip for the show. I'm going to go find it. He did another, he did a real bomb yesterday. You got to hear this.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Dunaway said the thing. He knows what we're talking about. Yeah, it was during play retro. You got to hear this. This is really too good. This is what he said. I know she did not come in your hole. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Anyway, moving on. Wow. Moving on. Wow. I can't help you hear what you hear. I'm going to say SpaghettiOs because I'm all out of ideas. Oh. Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Because that's a dumb thing and it's pasta, I guess. I don't know. Why not? All right. Show me Spaghettios. Damn it. Uh-oh. No spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Not one. Not one. I could have sworn the chat with, really. Rebun. Ram, ramen, ramen, ramen, ramen. It is a pasta. It is. Show me ramen.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Oh, three strikes. Ramen. Ramen was on the list. It was number, I guess it was tied for, yeah, tied for last place. Number 28, only one person said ramen, but. Oh, wow. Yeah. Give me some pesto.
Starting point is 00:42:14 has, you know what, I'll say one that's, I don't even think there's pasta in it, but it, how about a chicken parmesan? I can't think of anything else. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, sure. Chicken parm. With pasta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 All right. It's delicious. The chicken parm. Show me, show me some of that chicken parm. Oh. Look at that. I'm shocked by that. Usually, I usually get on a bed of pasta.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's usually a thing. Yeah. Chicken Parm, you. taste so good. Oh, what's the Z one? The, uh, the, uh, uh, oh, what, the what one? The one that's like, uh, uh, it's got a Z in it.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Hold on. It's got a Zee in it. Oh, I know you. Is it? Is it, is it, Spazetti? Is that what you're thinking of? Zetti, Zetty, Zetty, Zetty. Something Zetty.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Is it a Zetty? Wait, you might be on it. Zeti? Spas, Spasetti. Spatty? Spazetti and meatballs. It's delicious. Zetty, Zitty, Ziddy, Ziddy, Ziddy, it's Ziddy.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I'll say close enough. Do a little Ziddy. Ziti. Is it Ziti? It's not Ziddy? It's not pronounced Ziti. Your friend is Ziti. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Show me Ziti. Oh. Amazing. Now look at that. Wow. Oh my gosh, dude. How is this going to happen? Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I got one left. You got it. Come on. One more. One left and I got a strike. this is going to go bad. Shit. Scrimp scampy.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That's not a thing. I mean, it's not a... Yes, shrimp scampy is. Well, no, but it's not a... Oh, you know what? I just thought of one. Okay. But they're not thinking of that.
Starting point is 00:44:02 They're all thinking Italian. Because so far, these are all Italian. There's no way they put in some Asian thing here. Macaronian cheese is an Italian. Well, I guess it is kind of Italian. It's or... It's originals are. Americanized.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Americanized, yeah. All right, I give up, and I'm just going to say, I'm going to say pad tie because I'm going to think of anything else. Sure. All right. Might you let me some pad tie, though. Show me pad tie. Damn it. Pad tie was on the list number 24.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah, people did say pad tie. You're going to kick yourself. I am. I'm ready. Because you all talked about this one and never used it as an answer. Yoki. Oh, damn it. We should have gone with Lucky Phil.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He knows his stuff, man. I guess we did, but we picked Stroganoff over it or something. That's right. Yeah, I think that was it. I think so. Yeah. Some other answers that people had in here. I'll just get to a couple of these.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Just plain old, let's see, linguine. Big spaghetti. Had some of that. Caccio a Pepe, which is garlic and oil or something? It's my favorite mini-bodies. Ross and Mario Odyssey. Garlic and cheese.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah. Cassiolea, vodka, spaghetti, aglioli olio, which is garlic and oil. Stuffed shells, scrimps, scrampy, as Brian says it. Crams, scrimp. Crampt. Crampti. Eggplant Parmesan with a couple votes. Manicotti.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I thought about that. I was like, Shirley. Oh, Pene Carbon. That's the Pene I was thinking of. Yeah. Not the creamy peen. Yeah, well, that would. though it was even lower on the list, Penny Carbonara.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. And then, you know, single people, single things got East Side Mario's cheese capoletti and a frog-eyed salad and Johnny Carino's chicken bow-tie festival. Oh, my Lord. Oh, wow. That sounds like a, that's like a mob kill is what that is. Yeah, it does. Johnny Carino's chicken bow-tie festival.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That sounds terrible. Wow. Take the gun, leave the chicken festival. Here's the good news, though. You won. Congratulations. You're a winner. And because you're just right here in Discord,
Starting point is 00:46:19 we can send you these codes like Lickety Flat, so Brian will send it right now, as a matter of fact. Yeah. Lickety Flat sounds like something Australians would say. I'm sure it isn't, but it sounds like my... Lickety Flat, they'd say. Apparently in March 2018, I sent the only other time I've talked to Phil in Discord,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I sent a message who said, hey, lucky Phil. And never got a response back. never got a reply oh man never but now you've got now you've got these two games in here so good luck here's what's funny let me tell you something funny here about lucky phil i just this just blew my mind he sent me the hey i want to play message right like i have people doing wednesdays yeah it's a picture of holkogen it's a gif of holtogan yeah eating pasta oh really how is this possible that You're that lucky of a lucky Phil. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:47:13 There it is right there with like pasta behind him and stuff. Yeah. Stamania. Phil, how did you do that? Was that, I mean, did you just grabbed a random thing or what?
Starting point is 00:47:22 How did it go? I'll describe the random gift and dragged it into the disco. Unbelievable. That is the radest thing. There's a totally different search engine in Australia. It's nothing about Hulk Hogan pasta. So I could have done what's your favorite pasta or name a washed up wrestler.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah. Or name a douchebag. All three. rework. All right. That's right. Nicely done. Congratulations. You should add those codes now and thank you for playing. Hey, Brian Dunaway, you were also fun to have today. Well, we had, so it was super easy for me to have to sit back and put it on cruise control with Phil. Just do it. Yeah. Yeah. You ripped through it. A connoisseur there for sure. Let's remind people last night, a play retro went up. We talked about top-down single-screen racing games, which I have a huge soft spot in my old arcade day's
Starting point is 00:48:07 heart for. And we talked about those at length. So if you want to listen to us, go on and on and rave about things like Super Sprint and Badlands. Good news. That episode went up. Super off-road. Yep, super off-road. Don't forget. Those are available now, or that show is available now, at Play Retro, wherever we get your podcast. Or you can go to Frogvance.com slash Play Retro.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Ryan, is there anything else you'd like to say? Yeah, we're having a film sec this weekend, and I can't recall what it was. Do you guys remember? Dared evil. Dared evil. Daredevil. Sarring the Benafleck. Where did you hear that name?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. I'm not going to watch that. Yeah, you are. You're watching it. Banana flick. It's got banana flick in there. Banana flick. Michael Clark Duncan. Yeah. Duncan?
Starting point is 00:48:50 He didn't make fun of. No, because he passed away and we want to be nice. Sure. You got your colon, colon, feral colon is in it. Fearal colon. Yeah, fear of your colon. And he's great, as always. So anyway, check that out.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Which one's the blind guy? That's your, that's your Ben Affleck there. That's your Matt Murdo. Yeah, your Matt Murdo. Okay. And he fights people with sticks and has horns. All right. We'll see you later. Bye. All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will be joining us, talking a little bit of tech and some recommendals with, I think Nicole's out today. Yeah, she's out today. She's out. Yep. So it's just you, me and Randy.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yep. So watch for that coming up shortly. But in the meantime, Brian's going to play a song. Brian play away. Okay. We're going to go to Boston for this one. Nervous Eaters have a brand new album. It's called Monsters and Angels. this is the newest single from that it is called Chad here are nervous eaters called Chad I love that there yeah like the place or the person like a guy named Chad it's a guy named Chad that's perfect all right guys named Chad get excited here comes your song we'll be back in a moment with Tom Merritt we'll see you then
Starting point is 00:50:08 Used to know this girl She was a lot like me Kind of lost but Still running free I've been looking Here and there for her On the net I never got nowhere
Starting point is 00:50:37 Soul to soul with those beautiful eyes I still miss her wish I kissed them all I wish you kissed them all her Then she had brown hair Then she had red hair Then she had blue hair I've been looking
Starting point is 00:51:21 Here and there For her On the net I've never got Nowhere Soul to soul Beautiful eyes I still miss her
Starting point is 00:51:43 Wish I kissed them Oh I wish you kissed them all Wish I kissed them all I've been Wow I've been looking Here and there for her
Starting point is 00:52:40 Underneath All I never got nowhere So to soul With those beautiful eyes I still mess up Wish I kiss me Oh, we should kiss them all. We should kiss them all.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Tichichich, check, where did you go? Chichin-chichet, where did you go? Portfolio. Hoodwink, anus, tackle, morpho, sorry. You're about a bark and a half from being homeless. The morning stream. If your head comes away from your neck, it's over. And we've returned.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Remind me who that was again so we can find it. That was a band called Nervous Eaters from their brand new release, monsters, and angels, and a song called Chad. Oh, Chad. No, not all Chads are bad. Some Chads are nice. No, no. Some Chads are hanging.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That's right. And we know some Chads who listen to the show. And we would never make fun of the Chads who listen to the show ever. Never would we make fun of the Chads. No. But we will talk about tech here and there. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt. He joins us as he does every Wednesday to talk about the tech stories of the day.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Tom Merritt, welcome back to the program, sir. Well, thank you, sir, for having me and you too, sir. Yes, both sirs are here for you, sir. It's nice to see you. Man, I always feel, I can't, I don't know if this is just me. But every year, you got the CES, right? The year just like blasts into focus as soon as Christmas is. is over and New Year's is done.
Starting point is 00:55:07 It's like, get to Vegas. We've got to look at all the weird stuff they're making. And then there's like this. No rest. Get right in there January. That's right. And then there's like two weeks of like kind of a weird sigh of like, all right, now we've sussed it out. And we kind of know what's what. And then now what is 2023? All the tech people, both industry and reporters are exhausted. Yep. And they all lay down and take a two week now. Yep. They've all got the, probably a bunch of them have COVID now. Who knows what happens after you leave a long week in Vegas. But one thing I always know and can count on, Tom will come here on Wednesday with actual stuff in the tech world. So Tom, share with us what you found today. Well, I'd like to
Starting point is 00:55:44 talk about top hats, but Apple actually put out some news two days in a row. Wow. What? Oh my gosh. Okay. So I knew about the M2 mini and notebook. Yeah. In fact, we may break, we have an unofficial rule at DTNS not to talk about Apple two days in a row in a discussion segment if we could at all help it. Yeah. But I was just typing. One of the reasons I was a little late picking up the call just now is I was just typing with Sarah saying like, well, maybe we break that rule today.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And it's because yesterday, if you didn't hear, Apple released two new chips, the M2 Pro and the M2 Max, and immediately put them in the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pros. So what would normally in the Intel days have been like, oh, Apple updated the chips in their laptop, not a big deal, became a huge story because it was brand new Apple Silicon. They also put M2 chips, not the new M2 chips, but older M2 chips,
Starting point is 00:56:44 not that M2 chips are old, the Mac minis. It's crummy old empty chips. Dusty old, like almost a year old. Yeah, they put those in the Mac minis, which leaves the Mac Pro as the only Apple desktop laptop
Starting point is 00:57:01 PC type thing with an Intel chip inside. In fact, it's the only Apple product with an Intel chip inside. So that was kind of significant. And it was interesting because they didn't hold an announcement. They didn't invite the press. They just put out the press
Starting point is 00:57:18 release and also put out an 18-minute video, the kind of video you would have seen in a big live-stream announcement. Then today, they went and announced that the big home pod is back. For a while, yeah, for
Starting point is 00:57:33 a while. They've only had the HomePod Mini, but a second-gen home pod speaker is out. It has the same processor that was in the Apple Watch 7 and also includes thread radios, which gives it full matter support. And they add a temperature and humidity sensor so you can do some fun routines of like, you know, if the temperature reaches this degree, you know, turn off the lights, I don't know, whatever you want to do. Yeah. And remove the clothes from your automobile. closet. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, so you've got that out there as well. So two days
Starting point is 00:58:10 in a row, Apple releasing things that they would have saved up for an announcement in the past, which yesterday Nika and I speculated, well, is this because the mixed reality headset, you know, they don't want to do that till later? You want to devote all the time in June to that probably? And then Mark German
Starting point is 00:58:25 says Apple's actually going to delay the lightweight augmented reality glasses it had been planning and instead do a cheaper version of the first generation that it plans to announce still sometime this year, which makes me think that that mixed reality headset, it might not come out in the spring after all. The word from German and Ming Chi Kuo and the people who are pretty reliable on this stuff has been that it was delayed from an early 2023 announcement to a spring
Starting point is 00:58:55 announcement. But I wouldn't be shocked to hear them say that it gets pushed again since they're rejiggering their release schedule as they try to figure out, do they have the part? do they have the things they want for the augmented reality headset? So all kinds of Apple news. Yeah. And actual news in most cases, not even just German. Yeah, they don't feel like fluff pieces so much. The one thing I read about that new home pod is that it will,
Starting point is 00:59:17 it somehow ties to your smoke alarm and your O2 alarm stuff or your like carbon monoxide stuff. Well, through matter, I think. That must be it. And therefore, through HomeKit, it can do some stuff like that, especially because it has a temperature sensor. So if the smoke alarm goes, goes off and tells the home pod, hey, I'm going off. And the home pod goes, yeah, it is Nelly time in here. Then it could send you an alert. Like, you're not only, is your smoke alarm
Starting point is 00:59:45 going off, but it's also hot. Or it could also tell you, your smoke alarm's going off, but it's like 32 degrees inside. So you need to turn the heat on. Yeah. The price isn't bad. Didn't it drop a little too for the second gen? It's a, uh, yeah, $299 for the for the home pod speaker. Um, so it feels like that was more before. I can't remember how much the first one was, but it seemed like it was a lot more. Whatever it was, it was way too pricey. I ended up with a free one because my dad got one when he bought something from Apple. So he sent one to me and then I'm like, well, and it's the little small globe. So I'm like, oh, well, I'll buy a second one. Yeah, the mini. And then I'll have, I'll be able to do the stereo thing. And it sounds, they sound great. Yeah, they have a good
Starting point is 01:00:22 and this new big home pod can do the stereo thing as well, even if you have a murder. Yeah. I'm kind of tempted, partly, I don't know anyone else is feeling this way, but I feel like I've had enough time with audio assistants to know how I'm using them or which ones I'm using the most and for what. And I think if I'm honest with myself, I almost 100% use the echoes in the house, which is currently what is around, for music. And ironically, the music I'm having it play is on Apple Music anyway. It's from Apple Music. So I feel part of me is like, part of me wonders like, should I get something, I know Sonosis are out there
Starting point is 01:01:02 and there's other things you can do. I'm not saying this is the only option obviously and Google's got their stuff. But if I want better sound because I am using it primarily for music and can still use it for the few other odd jobs I give it, maybe now, maybe now I switch because I don't know, I just don't use the A word for much
Starting point is 01:01:20 except accidentally setting her off. You can do this with your echo devices to stream music from your, your Apple devices to it use it as a Bluetooth speaker as well as having it do its own. Oh, sure. Yeah, and it'll do Apple Music natively. All that stuff's fine. It's just where I'm coming from
Starting point is 01:01:36 from, it's mainly like, hey, do I want to upgrade sound? And I know Alexa, sorry, I'm set off everyone's Alexis just now. Sorry, cancel. That's the other reason I want to get off mine for once. Oh, that's good. That's good. But I want to, I guess what I want to do is up my sound game a little, but without breaking the bank and
Starting point is 01:01:54 going nuts. Yeah. So. Well, Yeah, because you could go, because you can get Amazon and Google voice assistance inside, like, you know, big, big sound bars and stuff, like JBL sound bars, if you wanted to go to that. But I get what you're saying is I want the echo sized speaker. I don't want to have to put in a, you know, a big expensive speaker. But Echo may not have the sound that I want. Is the home pod better? Is the Google home better? Or Nest, Nest home now.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. And yeah, it's, what's cool with matter finally rolling out is you can do that and not have to like get rid of light bulbs and stuff. Unfortunately, right now you probably still will have to adjust, but but you won't, you'll know that anything you buy in the future, you won't have, you won't be locked into certain smart home products because all of these platforms are going to support each other. Yeah. One quick note on the M2 stuff. You mentioned the pro being the only remaining Intel product, and it's funny because that thing came out right before all the M1 stuff happened. Yeah. Like right before. And you can configure even the current M1 studio to rival match, even exceed in some aspects, the capabilities of that pro in the giant box.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Do you think they'll, do you think that product even gets made again? like why wouldn't they just make a studio pro they've been saying things indicating they definitely have plans to release a new mac pro if i had to guess this is purely a guess they have looked at the mac pro supply chain and said let's not mess with that one of the reasons that you're getting m2 pro and m2 max now instead of before the holidays is is considered to be because of supply chain issues they they would have preferred to put it out with their autumn announcement. But they just didn't want to risk not having the supplies. So it got kicked down the road. I'm guessing they look at the Intel chip that goes in the Mac Pro and say,
Starting point is 01:04:05 you know what, that supply is locked on. We probably shouldn't threaten that. It's fine where it is. Let's get everything else out there, see where the supply chain problems are. and they are easing quite a bit. I wouldn't be shocked if we hear a Mac Pro with an Apple Silicon chip announced at WWDC. That's a good time to announce a pro-style device, even though they don't usually announce products at WWDC. When they do, they're often developer related like that.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah, and I think the last pro update may have actually been that event. I think they did. Yeah, I know they did a big pro update. And I think it wasn't that it went on sale then, but they said, you know, stay tuned in a couple months. And then a couple months later, this Mac Pro that we have now came out. All right. Well, interesting stuff. I mean, is there ever been a chip in the history of chips where I wanted to almost make out with it?
Starting point is 01:05:05 And that's so far been the M1 for me. I love that. I love my Mac Mini. I love that M1 so much. It's so good at everything I need to get done. Yeah, you're like, hold on, M2. We're going too fast. I know.
Starting point is 01:05:20 But I admit I'm tempted now. Plus that new mini M2 has got the proper number of freaking Thunderbolt ports where the last one they totally skimped on it. So the higher and one, I don't know. I just think about it. Another reason for me thinking about the studio as soon as they do the M2 is all the ports that I then don't have to use an external device to give me. I want a studio pretty bad, too. Anyway, well, there you go. There's today's Apple News.
Starting point is 01:05:48 and there'll be more of that and other cool stuff covered today on the Daily Tech News show so make sure you check it out at 2 p.m. Mountain Time. Tom, anything else you'd like to mention about that or anything, really? Oh, lots of fun stuff going on. I did Charlotte Henry's The Edition, with an A, the Addition podcast. This week's talking about AI.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Is AI coming for the podcasters? Is it coming for the journalists? So that was really fun. Just look around for the addition or Charlotte Henry's substack. And later this week, I think later this week, I was on the Geekscape podcast with Jonathan London. So we talked a little bit about AI. Everybody wants to talk about AI and generative algorithms. We also talked about the last of us and some other good stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:33 So look for me out and about in the world on other podcasts as I continue to celebrate DT&S heading into its 10th year. Nice. Always available when you post those things on his Twitter account, which is, A's detect soon to be maybe 4,000 characters worth of Tom Merritt. Can't wait for that. Can't wait. I'm just going to fill every character,
Starting point is 01:06:54 every post. That's right. I feel like I need to. I have all this extra room. I've got to use it all. You got to use it for something. Anyway, tweet longer, everybody. Tom Merritt, we'll see you this afternoon.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Have a good one. Bye now. See you, Tom. All righty. Whoops. That's weird. Oh, no, it worked. You didn't get kicked out.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Okay, good. No, I'm still here. That thing yesterday makes me nervous when it boots. I did the exact. same process moving him as I did yesterday with whoever it was. Who was on? Bobby, I guess. When Bobby, right, yes. Yeah, and it reset the
Starting point is 01:07:24 call for him, but this one it didn't, so I don't know. I don't know. I can't explain these things. They're like magic. I'm just, I'm just glad. I'm just glad I'm still here. That's all. Me too. All right. The hell are we doing? Oh, yeah, Randy. It's time for Randy. How about recommendals? Yeah. Get a little lost
Starting point is 01:07:40 in the Wednesday business. Let me put my seatbelt on if we're bringing Randy in. Yeah, get your seatbelt ready because this is happening right here. Joining us right now, Randy Jordan, AKA Randy DeLex. Hello, good morning, Randy. Good morning, morning, stream. Hey, that was nice of you to say. Thank you very, very much.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I just want to run through my notes really, really quick here. You've known Scott for 16 years. I've asked him a million times what's up with all the dark stuff, all the murder porn. And Scott this morning said out loud, no one's ever asked me why, I like that. Oh, that's true. You have asked me. No one. Just call me no one.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I'll cop to that. No, I'll cop to that. You've asked me that before. But I don't know why. I wouldn't have answered you. That's weird. I don't know. Yoki is not a pasta. That's a dumpling. And I just want you to know, I just want you to know, if you don't have anything and you're choosing from all of these, from these Amazon's and apples and so forth, go with Google. Google is the user-friendly, like the best home for you. I do like it's services and
Starting point is 01:08:42 stuff. I just, I'm thinking more audio focused because that's all I use my damn thing for. It's just like all I use it for. And the other reason that I don't always jump to Google as my first option is because they cancel shit all the time. Or they change names. They're like, oh, we're calling at the Nest home now. Well, because they've spent a lot of money on that name. Yeah, but they, I don't know. You know what I mean. Look at Stadia. I hate that shit when they do that. They do it all the time. There's actually a really good reason, in my opinion, for going with Google instead of, say, Amazon. And it's because Amazon wants to sell you Amazon. And Google wants to sell you Amazon. And Google wants to sell you everything. Google is trying to support the whole world.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yeah, the entire internet. You're right. It's just better for me. The other day, I said to my stupid echo, I said, Echo, play, I don't know what it was. I'll just make one up. Play Frank Sinatra's greatest hits from Apple Music, I said. And it goes, boom. Hey, here's an idea is what she says. I can do these four other dumb things you don't need or want right now. Do you want me to do those? I'm like, and it took her 30 seconds to tell me. I'm like, I could have been halfway through come fly with me by now. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Hated it. Anyway, I have been really missing you guys. Especially the last few days, I've been rolling in money from these NFL wagers. Oh, yeah. And just, I'm just, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:05 I'm really, really happy. That's all I'm saying. I'm really happy. Okay, so I wouldn't take that as a dig, fellow gambler Brian a bit or anything. I'd like to show, I'm going to take a screenshot of my draft king. balance and show you
Starting point is 01:10:17 how I've done over the season. Yeah, all right. Yes. Had a bad weekend, but I've had a very good season. It was just one of those things. You know, like you and I,
Starting point is 01:10:27 you and I decided to share each other, share with each other what we were doing going into the weekend. And we happened to be picking complete opposites. It's like, that's a rare thing. You have buddies that you compare picks with. You very rarely are completely opposite.
Starting point is 01:10:43 You're in a league. I didn't know that. That's cool. I am, yeah, it's a CBS betting, a betem-pick-em-poole, and I'm going to bring Randy in next season. Okay. It's five bucks a week, and winner takes a big chunk of that at the end of the season. But you probably would have done really well for the weekend. I've been doing really well since I turned 21.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I've had people ask me, like, hey, why don't you try to become one of those, like, you know, one of those sell yourself prognosticators? I'm like, hold on, hold on. Those guys clearly aren't winning. Well, you guys put me in the... It's been in the... educators, you keep that to yourself. You guys put me in the mood for this. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Football, what a time to be a fan. Ladies and gentlemen on the field. You've got exactly seven games left. Is that right? For this weekend, two of the following weekend, then the big show. Yeah. And I just want to say, of all those picks
Starting point is 01:11:34 that you and I were opposite on, I'm most proud of the Cowboys because it felt so obvious to me and it felt so obvious to you. Well, listen to you were right. It felt so, it was the more obvious choice. The Cowboys have been doing great. I thought that, all right, Tom Brady's, this could be his last game, maybe as a football player,
Starting point is 01:11:55 but almost certainly as a buccaneer. And so I figured, all right, well, he's going to go all out. And despite the Cowboys not being able to kick a ball through the uprights. That was amazing. Four misses or five? They said a historical record missing four consecutive. of extra points. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It was unbelievable. Almost all wide right, except one was wide left. Yeah, and caused, what's his name, Eli Manning, to lose his mind. Well, it's funny because everyone thinks of those special teams guys as kind of quiet and never having to do much to come out, do the easy thing and leave. But every once in a while, focuses entirely on them. And sometimes it's game winning focus, but often it's, they can't hit the freaking broad side of a barn with their damn, damn phone.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And then you overcompensate and you go wide left. And then they're all anyone wants to talk about for the next four days. The important thing is to talk about me, put the focus on me. I had a really good time. Well, good. We're going to have a good time here and play some recommendals. Brian, you are beginning, as always, here with your thing. Would you like to set up your clip at all?
Starting point is 01:13:01 I will absolutely set it up. This is a series that was actually recommended to me by my stepmom when we were out in Vermont. She told me about, told me that they were watching it. and we managed to get caught up with the whole show right before the finale of the second season. Nice. And a third season coming or no? Third season is coming. It's in the works right now.
Starting point is 01:13:24 So this is, this will continue it. And I am so glad because it's so good. I've been waiting for one of us to see it because I've been wanting to hear from someone I trust, whether they liked it or not. Yes. Love it. And here's,
Starting point is 01:13:34 I had to, I had a three minute clip that I had to pare down to like less than a minute and a half. But it was so hard because like, oh my God, there's so much good content. that I took out of this, but I wanted it to begin with one thing and end with one thing, and so I just
Starting point is 01:13:47 took out some chunks in the middle of it. Hopefully my editing won't be noticeable. All right, here we go. Okay, do you want to tell me to put him under surveillance? Well, that's an interesting proposition considering the last time you were given any sort responsibility. A lot of
Starting point is 01:14:06 people got blown a bit. There it is. I'm sorry, you find it so tight, some cart, right? But it's not social foepile, you seem the thick it was. You didn't break wind during someone's wedding now. What was it? 149 dead, just 212 injured, 3 million in damages, half a billion in lost revenue.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It was a training exercise. If a pilot crashes a simulator, he doesn't then brush it off and go, well, I'm sorry, it was a fucking exercise, and then expect to be put behind the wheel of the 747. It's not the same thing. No, it's worse. You're t'-I'm surrounded by fuck-ups in this building,
Starting point is 01:14:47 but you were the gold standard of f***-ups, by all rights, you shouldn't even be here. You should have skipped this purgatory and got straight to hell, now you're down for glue, but you avoided that because your name is carbonate. So when you wonder, why have you going through the rubbish of a disgrace that right-winged you and I wonder no more.
Starting point is 01:15:09 It's because I don't like you. I don't want you to quit. Wow. Wow. That's good. That's good stuff. Tell us who this is. It's such a great season or a scene. That is a show called Slow Horses. This is a spy thriller with bits of, a little bits of comedy, but mostly a dramatic spy thriller based on the series of novels by Mick Heron.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Slow Horses is kind of like a rough play on the. term slough house, which is an administrative purgatory for MI5 agents that fail, that screw up, as Gary Oldman, who you hear in that clip puts it, F-ups.
Starting point is 01:15:55 They get relegated to slough house and become slow horses. So they basically get, you know, menial tasks, crap jobs, and the frequent verbal abuse from Gary
Starting point is 01:16:11 oldman who's the boss of sloughhouse um he plays a guy named jackson lamb and it is it is gary oldman at his grossest and finest like he farts at people he belches he's like you know the the the boss you definitely don't ever want to have um he uh the other guy you're hearing that clip is river cart ride uh played by jack lowden uh he is an m i five agent so he was the one in this training mission at the very beginning of the episode that screws up and gets relegated to Slau House. This is an Apple TV series. There are two seasons, or serieses, as they call them in the UK, six episodes per season, about an hour long each episode.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And it is fantastic. Kristen Scott Thomas plays the MI5 boss that Gary Oldman kind of reports to. Love Dane, Christian Scott Thomas. She's fantastic. And Mick Jagger does the theme music, and it's such a great song, and I looked it up to make sure. But it's a, it's in a Mick Jagger original that he wrote and recorded for this show. Oh, no way. Is he sing?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Is it like a song thing? He sings it too, yeah. And I couldn't like, oh man, that sounds like somebody doing a pretty good Mick Jagger impersonation. Then come to find, nope, it's really Mick Jagger. Yeah. But it almost sounds like Gazcom. from uh, uh, stereo, not stereophonics, um, uh, shoot,
Starting point is 01:17:46 forgetting the name of the, the, the trio, the, the, the, the UK trio that Gaz Coombs, uh, was lead singer for. Um, you also get, uh, Olivia Cook, who I always love seeing Olivia cook. She's my favorite, uh, Olivia in Hollywood. Wow. Wow. There's a lot of Olivia's from, okay. Way more than Olivia Munn, way more than Olivia Wilde. I like me, some Olivia cook. Yeah. She's, she's always so good. Um, you might know, know her as the friend of Norman Bates
Starting point is 01:18:13 on the Bates Motel show years and years and years ago, the one that had the oxygen breathing tube. Oh, right. She was just Allison High Tower and House of the Dragon. Yes. The Dragon. Yep, exactly. Oh, she's freaking
Starting point is 01:18:30 great. She is super grass. Thank you, Lucky Phil. Yeah, she is, she's fantastic, and she is a, you wonder why she's in Slough House, because she actually is really good at what she does. You don't know why she ended up where she is. Is she?
Starting point is 01:18:46 But she is there for some reason. She is there for some reason. Jonathan Price, very prominently, basically he's Cartwright's grandfather in this. Another Game of Thrones connection. Hold on. Just back to the Olivia thing. Where do you put her up against Olivia Coleman? That's what I was wondering.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Oh, shoot. I forgot. I know. That's a hard, those are hard Olivia's to. suss out, which one's better. Tide for best Olivia. All right. There you go. I like it. The British Olivia, you know what? British Olivia's, you win. Good job. Yeah, yeah. We have such inferior Olivia's here in the U.S. to be lividas. You get overseas. Olivia Newton-John is pretty awesome. She is, but I don't tell her a Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Plus, she's Australian. She doesn't count for this argument. Sorry, Lucky Phil. Well, I mean, she had a couple. Well, she had one really good movie, and but I know her more, you know, think of her more as a singer. than an actress. Fair enough. What else was I going to say about this? Let's see. I mentioned Jonathan Price. This is one of those things that if you're,
Starting point is 01:19:51 if you don't have Apple TV Plus, this is one of those things that I'd say, this would make it worth it for a one month subscription. Binge this, watch C, watch Coda, if you haven't seen Coda. There's easily enough stuff to give you plenty to make your five bucks or seven bucks or whatever
Starting point is 01:20:12 in Apple TV plus I think it's six bucks now severance Severance of course Ted Lassow like look there there is no longer a reason
Starting point is 01:20:22 to wonder if that's a worthy subscriberable thing it's 100% is so if you're just easily throwing 15 bucks at HBO or you're checking money at Hulu every month without thinking about it
Starting point is 01:20:31 you're missing out like even if you're like some kind of weirdo that hates everything Apple does you're missing out it's some of the best I don't think a month is enough if you haven't. No, I'm looking at the list like for all mankind.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah. They have a hard time making. They have a hard time making crap. They really do. Oh, the after party, which I thought I recommend a recommendal last year. And I love that show.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I think I talked about it on my best of. Yeah, also don't we like the animated thing, Randy, the Central Park thing? I think it was used it for a minute. It haven't been me. But I love it.
Starting point is 01:21:08 good. All of it is good. It's all good. You're six bucks, man. It's like a cheap coffee per month. Just do it. It is. Yeah. Oh, Pichinko. God, yeah, there is so much good stuff on Apple TV plus. So get it. And one of the first things you should watch are the two seasons of slow horses. And then you can sit there and wait with anticipation for the third season. All right. I'll tell you, the opposite of slow horses on Apple TV is Shmigadoon. It is so divisive. I'm not going to watch no musical. Yeah, yeah. Shmigadoo? What is it? Shmigadoon.
Starting point is 01:21:43 It's Jordan Peel and Sisselty and Cecil Michael Key, Kegu Michael Key and Sassely Strong and Fred Armisen and on and on. I miss this entirely. I didn't even know this is a thing. Oh, there it is. It is. It's a hilarious musical that tries not to be a musical if that makes any There's a Harrison Ford thing with
Starting point is 01:22:02 Who else is in that? It's called shrinking and Harrison Ford And not Paul Red, but somebody That's when they were in the pool And they got out of the pool And then someone saw them and they said There was shrinkage and it was that whole thing It was cold. It was cold pool.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Oh, you know what I was I didn't remember what I was going to say I was going to compare it to Bodyguard If you remember Bodyguard which had Was a Manning or The guy that was the Game of Thrones kid Richard Madden yeah um yes so good uh slow horse is a lot is a lot like that my wife and i have i don't know
Starting point is 01:22:35 why we've been putting this off this is up right up her alley it's up my alley slow horses man oh you guys would love this it is and it's i mean second maybe to to sid vicious or serious black it might be it's certainly my favorite recent thing that i've seen uh gary oldman do nice very um all right moving on i'm going to put mine in the middle here because we'll get the depressing documentary out of the way, all right? I shouldn't say it's all depressing. It's actually got some really good. I'm putting it in the other order, the order we usually do it on QuickTMSLI.
Starting point is 01:23:05 All right, no problem. Because I always switch this up with these two. But anyway, here comes mine. Since the U.S. Congress was not willing to alter America's quota system, Roosevelt would not ask any other country to change its own laws to take in more immigrants. Though it was his
Starting point is 01:23:22 hope that other countries might volunteer to do so, at the upcoming conference in july representatives of 32 countries met for a week and managed only to form an intergovernmental committee for refugees all right there's a it's a short clip it doesn't really tell you too much but this is for the u.s and the holocaust a film by ken burns and linnovac they're always working together on most of their stuff uh kem burns known for a billion amazing things including uh civil war the baseball documentary that i watch I feel like every year.
Starting point is 01:23:59 They're World War II documentary called The War. Vietnam's amazing as well. Just amazing. And Peter Coyote is the voice you heard there. That's the voice. Okay, yeah. Yeah, you hear, he uses. At times it sound like Donald Sutherland.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I almost did a Fletcher there. Oh, yeah, I could hear that. Since the U.S. Congress was. Yeah, you can kind of hear. I could hear that for sure. He goes back and forth these days, uses Peter Coyote or Keith David for almost everything. Like those two are his go-to guys.
Starting point is 01:24:26 So Keith Dave was the World War II one, which is amazing. People should watch it. But it's a Ken Burns documentary. He's most recent, came out last year. I want to say in the summer sometime, it's on the PBS app. So that's where you're going to get this one. They have a free trial. So not hard to watch.
Starting point is 01:24:42 And it's called the U.S. and the Holocaust. And basically, it's a deep dive into what was happening, you know, unlike the World War II documentary that covers all World War II stuff, including the Pacific and Japan and, you know, know, everything. This is a very focused thing on what was Germany doing? When were they doing it? How was it going down? And how were we responding here in the States? And it is eye-opening in a bunch of ways because there's a lot of stuff going on there I didn't know about. I didn't know that they were gigantic Nazi rallies in the United States, in the United States. Pro-German factions all across absolutely and they were big and they were loud and they were all about what germany was doing and wanted
Starting point is 01:25:27 to do the same thing here and they were kind of formidable uh there was here's what i like about the documentary because in a lot of ways it does pull back the onion and say um you know we keep calling this the greatest generation but there were some problems and there were 100% and this does expose that ken burns has never flinched away from the truth he's a he's a he's a he's a great filmmaker but i i i do appreciate that this also features a ton of really wonderful people trying to do good on the ground. It's usually smaller efforts. It's not big governmental sweeping things, but it's like this one rich guy just could not take what he was seeing and took it upon himself to figure out a way to pay for as many Jews as he could to get out of occupied German zones and get them in places
Starting point is 01:26:12 where they could get a new start at times when the government wouldn't do it. And that guy got and like arrested for doing this. There's other smaller stories about, you know, people in, in Germany or in Poland that they were doing stuff that were just downright heroic, amazing personal stories and big, broad stories about what was happening on a global geopolitical level. And it's great. It's as good as you expect anything out of Ken Burns. My favorite tiny detail was, they had to have a voice for not gerbils.
Starting point is 01:26:47 who's the other top... I forgot his name. The other top German... No, crap. He's like second in command. I don't know why that name always makes me laugh. Gurring, that's who it is. Oh, Gurring.
Starting point is 01:26:57 So, Gurring was like second in command right behind... You know, he's like Hitler's biggest confidant, that guy. Yeah. And you know how Ken Burns always hires a lot of famous voices to do, you know, different readings of people's diaries and stuff like that? So he's got Liam Neeson doing somebody and he's got other actors and people that you recognize doing voices of different people. And for Guring, he gets freaking Werner Herzog to do the voice of,
Starting point is 01:27:22 Oh, really? That's why you were talking about Warner Herzog the other day. It was perfect, perfect for what he was reading diary entries from this psychadoo psychopath. And it was perfect voice. Anyway, I loved it. I love all his movies. I can't think of a Ken Burns film that didn't rock my socks. So if you're into that kind of stuff, this is also very good.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And it's this brand new one. It's available on PBS. he has said out loud before he thinks this might be the most important one he's done. After watching it, I think he might be right. And it's for a bunch of reasons that if I mention them here, I'm going to have somebody say something shitty, so I'm not going to do it. But the parallels to rhetoric we're hearing today, there's a bunch of it in this. And it's also really good to just have the sunlight flat out expose shit you didn't know about. Like real history in your face so that we don't repeat some shitty mistakes. It's very, very good. Can't recommend it
Starting point is 01:28:20 enough. Again, the movie is called the, or sorry, it's a series and it's three episodes total. Let me make sure I'm telling you right. I think so. Yeah, three big episodes. Not sure how long they are each, but anyway, it went fast for me. PBS, you have to sign up, you don't have to sign up for anything. PBS, yeah, you do the free, they have a free trial for the PBS app and you can, you could do this easily in the month they give you or whatever it is. But there's also all his other stuff is there. So I'd actually kind of recommend hanging out and checking it all if you get a chance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 There's some really good things in that list that you can go watch. Oh, yeah, dude. Like some really good stuff. One of the Ken Burns movies that blew my mind that I didn't think I was even going to be into was the suffrage one. Yeah. That blew my freaking mind. I was so good.
Starting point is 01:29:11 also the one about you stop drinking alcohol. What was that called? Prohibition. Prohibition. And it's the name of the movie. It's the name of the thing. That's another Keith David joining narrates. That's fan fricentastic.
Starting point is 01:29:26 The jazz one's really good. Like he's just, when he goes, we are lesser human beings. I'm telling you. That guy's an important voice and it's such good stuff. Anyway, Ken recommend enough. That's the U.S. and the Holocaust to film by Ken Burns. Go check it.
Starting point is 01:29:41 out now. And let me know what you think. All right. Ray, let's get to yours. Any set up here for you? Okay. So I just, I was looking for something to watch that was familiar and comforting and so forth this week. And I watched a movie that I've now seen maybe four times since it came out and found it on Disney. This is, what you're about to hear is a good famous actor. He plays the 30-something expert at something, and he is talking to the teenage boy next door who wants to do this dangerous thing and trying to keep him out of it. And, of course, the movie is about the teenage boy becoming really good at this dangerous thing that the 30-something does. All right. Here we go then. Hey, sir, I want to ride that wave.
Starting point is 01:30:39 I want to take that drop. Not gonna happen. Why not? Because untrained boys don't step in the ring with Mike Tyson. That's why. Buddy, I've been surfing that break for 20 years. You have any idea how much strength and know-how you need to survive a break like that? Frosty, I'm getting stronger by the day.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I'll hold my own. Right now I'm surfing every single day, right? Shut up, all right? I know how good you are. I've seen you out there. You serve circles around those other kids. but those are normal waves surfing normal waves
Starting point is 01:31:15 is about how you perform when everything goes right a big wave surfing it's a different ballgame that's about how you perform and everything goes wrong one bump off the face of that wave
Starting point is 01:31:28 and you're hitting the water like concrete of 50 miles an hour and you've got a thousand tons of water coming down on top of you it's knocking you senseless ripping you apart and pushing you down to a place that is so deep and so deep
Starting point is 01:31:39 And so dark, you don't want to be there. So I do it. Is that Gerard Butler? Yes, that's Gerard Butler in Chasing Mavericks. And he's, okay, she's talking to Johnny Weston. You might not know him. Johnny Weston's mom is played by Elizabeth's shoe. She's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Probably how I ended up on this movie, because I just watched The Saint for that. Oh, nice. Um, the, uh, uh, Gerard Butler is married to Abigail Spencer, who has a freaking tragedy. It's just, this is a, this is a really heartfelt, really good movie. It's like, it's, it's, it's like, you know, Disney for adults. And it, it's about, um, a guy who's one of the surfers that discovers the Mavericks. It's this, uh, sort of like huge set of waves that you could surf. if you're crazy, not far from Santa Cruz, California. And he and his friends are now well into their adulthood, and they're going out there, they're sneaking out there, and they're learning how to serve these massive big waves.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And this is a true story. Chasing Mavericks was based on a book by the guy who was the teenager here. The movie, it's directed by Curtis Hansen and Michael Afted, which is kind of crazy like these two guys like Curtis Hansen made LA confidential and eight mile and so forth. And then Michael Apted is the, you know, the seven up. The seven up 14 up. Yeah, the name was familiar. He passed away in 2021 and now that new, I guess the new one's being carried forward by somebody else. But yeah, I knew that name is familiar. Does he, that's it. So this is, that explains kind of the real story connection. Like this guy would be interested in that regard.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Yes. And, and the, what I want to say about chasing mavericks i want i want you to watch it not not because it's a surfing movie it's not really a surfing movie like there's some surfing in it but it's what what the thing about this movie is it's one of the best examples i've ever seen of when you have a 10 scale and you have like uh all the parts of a movie on a 10 scale and it's a 7 for acting and it's a 7 for music and it's a 7 for cinematography and so forth and every single part of the movie is competent and somehow when you you add them all up, you get a nine.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It's the strangest thing. When a movie gets, it nails everything just good enough. And the sum of the parts is so much better than the parts. That's what this is. Gerard Butler is struggling a little bit with doing a California accent. It comes and goes. I wish they just let him. I've said this so many times.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Just let the actors have their natural accent when it doesn't matter. he can be an Englishman who's or a, you know, an Irishman or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Do you happen to be living here. Chernobyl did that where they just let everybody talk the way they talk. And it worked great. It was so good. Just fine.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Nobody said, wait a minute. That doesn't sound like a Russian accent. Yeah. In a way, it sounds a little daring like, oh, are we going to get away with this? But once you hear it, you realize, I don't ever need you to worry about this. Just everybody talk like they talk. But then again, there are certain British actors and like Australian actors who nail it so hard when they do American stuff that I kind of don't want them to have to you know what I
Starting point is 01:35:09 mean like there's a place for it but in Gerard Butler's case he struggles with it and that's okay so just tell him he can talk like he normally talks you know but okay so this movie came out in 2012 it's an older one but uh also Curtis Hansen's last film he didn't die he just hasn't done anymore um which I mean makes he did too Curtis Hansen died like seven years ago did he Oh, I didn't see his death. Rest of peace, man. He made some great movies. He made the River Wild, which was a big movie for me as a teenager.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Eight Mile we watched for Film Sack. He did that as well. Oh, right. So, again, it's just such a good movie from top to bottom. There's nothing ever wrong with it. You can't ever poke holes in this movie. And it's just, it's nice. It, you know, it has a, it's a Disney, like I say,
Starting point is 01:36:01 Disney doesn't Disney doesn't make you know movies where the teenager dies at on the rocks in the end you know what I mean like they just so it's just it's it's cool. I want to see it pleasant it looks great I like this kind of stuff
Starting point is 01:36:17 and I like Gerard Butler unapologetically I like him I know a lot of people are like whatever 300 guy just making more movies that sound like 300 or making more of these White House Down movies or whatever I don't care I like him a lot and I'll watch him in anything Yeah. And this is him at 40 and he's called upon to play just a 40 something who serves big waves, you know? And like to it's perfect for him. He really puts himself into this role. It's really good. He's, uh, this new thing he's in called plane. Oh yeah. Getting good reviews. I was surprised because it sounded like another one of these things where it wasn't going to go well. But it's, I feel like, I feel like he is able to take mediocre material and elevate. it a little. I agree. And we talked
Starting point is 01:37:02 about this on film sack. The whole London is fallen, Angel is fallen movies. That's a mediocre concept. You can't make that great. But he elevates it a little, you know? Yeah, I agree. This one actually seems like it might be the stuff. It might be the business. It might be fun to see. So I don't know if we went to film sack
Starting point is 01:37:21 or if plane's worth seeing now, but I will watch Mike Coulter in anything ever. You like the Mike Coulter do. Oh my gosh. he is my Luke Cage He is cool Wasn't he a
Starting point is 01:37:36 I'm thinking to somebody else Never mind Yeah no You're right I almost said Nick I almost said I almost said I almost said Nick Cage
Starting point is 01:37:44 And I don't know why I was saying that So close Luke Cage Yeah Mike Coulter Should play Nick Cage In a Nick Cage biography That's a really funny idea
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah my brain broke there a little All right these three movies We put them up On QuickTMS.LI Every day I want to I say we, I mean, Brian I bit over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:03 And they're posted and ready for you to go click on. So you have no excuse. Even Christine. Sit out of luck.com. We have a place for you. So go check it out. Randy, always a pleasure this weekend. We're doing a fun.
Starting point is 01:38:14 We talked about it with Don Away, but we're doing a very fun Daredevil show. Looking forward to that. I'm excited about it. For years, I wanted us to sack Daredeville and then Elektra back to back. And we just can't ever get Elektra streaming. So let's just get on with our lives. Let's get on with our lives.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I got the DVD I could send you guys. And tune in this weekend because it's the return of Scott Fletcher's description readings this week. That is so exciting, dude. I know. It's like 2012 all up in here. It's crazy. It's back when chasing Mavericks came out. Anyway, that's going to do it.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Randy, thanks for hanging out with us. We'll see you next week. And one more thing. Okay, bye. He was lying. He did it to us again. Oh, that guy. Oh, made it up.
Starting point is 01:38:58 That's right. Uh, quick note before we get out of here. Got an email from Charlie DeVe de Vita. Delavita. Thank you very much. Uh-huh. The Lavita. I couldn't get Dare DeVille out of my head.
Starting point is 01:39:11 It's kind of in there. Yeah. It's like all the letters look like they're in Delavita except for the R. Yeah. Dope. Uh, it says this. I thought, say, it's a thought to end the day. Hey there, bone and skull.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Hmm. I randomly, or had a random thought. I wanted to run by Scott regarding this thing with old movies he has. and people being dead in them. You know, I am I like, oh, nobody in here's alive or whatever. Have you ever stopped to think about the very real possibility that some person is listening or watching your content on the back of some dystopian tanker truck
Starting point is 01:39:43 with flames pouring out the side a century from now and thinking about the fact that they are listening to a dead guy asking for a future friend, Charlie. No, I have thought about it, of course. Like, there's enough content out there. Dude, TMS alone, what are we, 2,4008 shows today? there's enough of that floating around that the possibility exists
Starting point is 01:40:01 that in a hundred years someone somewhere is listening to this in some archaic way and we're gone yeah right we're both dead we're both long gone but AI versions of us still exist
Starting point is 01:40:13 and they're still putting out new episodes of this show yep they're still cut and done away off unceremoniously they're still oh I love it I love it some guy named
Starting point is 01:40:23 some guy'd be funny they'd be really disappointed with the fact that you know we're not talking about anything current but other than that it would be amazing though like some robot named lucky phil got pulled into the contest and like exactly how can they do that i wonder it is time for babble royale babble royale briban i had a dream last night it by dream i killed a monkey the people are dead the people are dead all right you know what that's my next rewatch is uh flight of the concordes
Starting point is 01:40:55 there we go that's my next happy that's a great just put it on and let it it rip you know yes it is I agree I'm kind of in the mood for that as well that'll do it for today Patreon.com slash TMS is where you can show your devotion directly to us at patreon.com slash TMS one of you today
Starting point is 01:41:14 is getting pulled at random for a little extra swag in the mail don't know who it is yet how cool that is yeah I'll tell you tomorrow who I picked but I'm just going to go in there do a random number generator get our total number of patrons doesn't matter what level and ban you're going to get a little something in the mail.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Oh, yeah. Cool, cool. Anyway, watch for that. And I'm going to be pulling the trigger on letting people order the TMS steam deck again because I just peeked around the corner if people saw me disappear off screen for a second during recommendals. And I took everything apart on that 3D printer, installed a new nozzle, changed the Bowden tube, all of it, and it's printing like a dream right now. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Coverville 3D. Etsy.com. That's where you want to go. That's it. Yeah, for the TMS stream deck, and you'll see all the colors it's available in. Glow in the dark
Starting point is 01:42:05 seems to be the most popular one, oddly enough. Yeah, disclaimer, it's a steam deck stand, not a steam deck, everybody, just so you know. Yes. You don't go there expecting
Starting point is 01:42:15 a $30 freaking... No, yeah, I know. That would be a great offer if it was. But, yeah, you can change the colors. You know, what I would recommend doing is just getting a little piece of felt,
Starting point is 01:42:25 gluing it into the very bottom, the recessed area. just to help protect your steam deck and yeah yeah they're very cool so now available again up there at coverville 3d. Etsy.com I heard some labels just to test out a label company on Etsy or a sticker company yeah or yeah stickers I want to do some specials and I wanted to see how they were their pricing was good and their reviews really well they're good and they said they'd contact me within like an hour of the order and they still haven't contacted me it makes me nervous I don't know why they haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Well, I'm about to put Kia on Blast on Twitter because two weeks ago they said, hey, we really want to talk to you about your bad experience with Kia. DM us your VIN number and your phone number. And our first thing I'm doing is checking to make sure that that's really Kia. And it was. Oh, that's good. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Security-minded. That's good. Yeah. And then I DMed them. That was two weeks ago. I've heard nothing. Oh. See, sometimes, yeah, put them on blast.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Do it. Put them on blast. I'm not going to really put them on. I'm just going to like say, yep, looks like your response, Kia regular response is just as good as the dealership, the Kia dealership response. There you go. Call them monkey chodes if you're really in the mood.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Be my guess. All right, that's it for today. We're out of here. Brian, let's play a song and then go. What do you got? Okay, I've got a request. This one's going out to Jim of California. That's how he signed it.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Jim of California. Hey, pension and 401K. This is Jim from rain-soaked California. I'm requesting a song sometime in January to start the celebration of the year that I plan to retire. This fall, after 38 years of military and federal service, I will reach the age I'm allowed to retire. And I plan to get out while I'm still somewhat young enough to travel and have some fun. During my career, I've been to both Salt Lake City and Denver for work. Salt Lake City was for the 2002 Olympics, and Denver was for the Democratic National Convention in 2008.
Starting point is 01:44:25 My agency was one of many that helped with security. Had great times at both. Sorry, Scott, Denver was better. Not so damn cold. Oh, well, it just depends on the time of year you go. We're all the same over here. I don't know what song goes with retiring soon, so I'm asking for a cover of Led Zeppelin Black Dog.
Starting point is 01:44:42 This was the first rock song that I heard that really caught my attention. I used to borrow my brother's cassette tape and play the song over and over. Thanks, Jim. Congratulations, 38 freaking years, man. That's a lot. Yeah, damn. Way before it, and you didn't do it. So he says, P.S. Brian, if Scott says, thank you for your service,
Starting point is 01:45:00 tell them it's not necessary, I didn't do that great job. We never, I never say it because too many service people tell me they hate it. They don't like it. So I don't do it anymore. I just say, oh, man, that's crazy. You're over there. Hope you're doing good. That's kind of all I can do.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Because I've had too many people get mad. I don't know why they get mad. I don't know about getting mad. They just feel like, yeah, it's an empty platitude kind of thing. Yeah, probably that. Yeah. So I won't. I just say, you're cool.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Yeah, you're cool, man. You're cool. You're cool. Black Dog. So the version I'm going to play is by, since he visited Denver and liked it so much, we're going to play a local Denver band. This is a band called Opie Gone Bad. And the lead singer is a dude named Jake Schroeder the fourth.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Jake, for a long time, retiring last year, I believe, was the singer at the beginning of the Colorado Avalanche Games, the hockey team, who would sing the national anthem. and he has an incredible voice, but Opie Gone Bad is one of these bands that, like, does the things, the parts of red-out chili peppers that I like, but does it without the stuff that I don't like. Just some good rock funk.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Anyway, here is Opie Gone Bad and their cover of Led Zeppelin's Black Dog. Sounds great. We'll be back tomorrow. Therapy Thursday and a whole bunch more. We'll see you then. Hey, hey, Mama said the way you move, gonna make you sweat, gonna make you groove. A hot time
Starting point is 01:46:31 Where you shake that thing Gonna make you burn Gonna make you stain Hey, hey baby When you walk that way Watch your honey drip Can't keep away Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I can't stand still. Got a flame in my heart. Can't get my fill.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Eyes that shine burning red Dreams of you all through my head Hey, baby, oh, baby, oh, baby, pretty baby, tell me what you're doing now. Hey, baby, oh, baby, oh, baby, pretty baby. Tell me what you do now. Oh, baby, pretty baby Tell me what you're doing now Oh, baby, oh baby, pretty baby
Starting point is 01:48:14 It'll take long For I found out what people mean by down and out Spend my money Took my car Started telling her friends You want to be a star I don't know, but I've been told a big-legged woman ain't got no soul. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, ah, ah, ah, ah, I ask for when I pray, stay wrong one, gonna come my way.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Need a woman, gonna hold my hand, tell me no lies, make me a happy man. Hey, baby, oh, baby, pretty baby, tell me what you're doing now. Hey, baby, oh, baby, pretty baby. Tell me what you're doing now. tell me what you're doing now tell me what you're doing now tell me what you to tell me now tell me tell me tell me what you're talking now
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