The Morning Stream - TMS 2416: Pavlov's Chatroom

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

If Clare's Your Buddy, Get A THIRD Buddy! Flesh Chute. The Security Guard Was Standing Sideways! Can you come get your DOG!? Periodically Looking at the Periodic Table. Among Veronica's Marshmallows. Adobe Failed the Audition. This Title was generated by ChatGPT and it is funny and clever. KK Slider, Live in Concert. In and Out and Loathing in Las Vegas. Brian Would Walk 500 Drinks. Cock-a-Roach with Natasha Lyonne. Las Vegas Monorail? It's More of a Shelbyville Idea. The Seven Audiobooks You Can't Play on TMS with Amy. Perpetually Returning Socks to Home Depot with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, if Clare's your buddy, get a third buddy. Flesh shoot. The security guard was standing sideways. Can you come get your dog? Periodically looking at periodic tables. Among Veronica's marshmallows. Adobe failed the audition. This title was generated by ChatGPT and is funny and clever.

Beep KK Slider. Live in concert. In and out and loathing in Las Vegas. Brian would walk 500 drinks. Brian would walk 500 drinks. Cockerroach with Natasha Leon. Las Vegas Monorail. It's more of a Shelbyville idea.

The seven audiobooks you can't play on TMS with Amy. Perpetually returning Sox to Home Depot with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. My day is 6 a.m. to noon, and I'm not crazy. You're crazy for thinking it takes 24 hours, just like some dude in a cave did 300 years ago. My second day starts at noon and goes until 6 p.m. That's day two. And then the next day is 6 p.m. to midnight. What I've done now is I have changed a manipulated time. I now get 21 days a week.

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and welcome to TMS. It's Thursday, February 2nd, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson, and Brian Nibbitt's back, everybody. Hello, Brian. I'm back. I'm back. Hey, big thanks to Bobby for filling in yesterday. And keeping the booth all sciencey. Yeah.

You're being hung up a periodic table of elements. And I'm looking, and Quoronium contains the letter Q. So, sorry. Yeah. Sorry, Scott. There you have it. No, it's all good. I had a hard time with that one.

And whatever. I love stuff like that. I love trivia questions like that. I just feel like I've not looked at a periodic table in a long time. Maybe that's what I need to do. It's just like peruse one, you know? Get it in my head. Remember all the things.

So next time Bobby tries to pull one of his periodic table quizzes, I'll be a little more prepared. It's something that if you can get it down and get it, you know, figure out not just the letters that go along with each of the elements, especially the ones like potassium and. and gold and silver that don't match up with the, you know, silver's not S-I, which you think would be easy to remember. Yeah, that would make sense. If you can get those down, but also the numbers, it's, you know, it's something that comes up a lot on Jeopardy. It's something that comes up a lot as other clues for things on other trivia tournaments and stuff.

Nice. Yeah, the Tom Lera song is a really good start. We had a jigsaw puzzle. um that we solved that uh was the periodic table and oh that must have been really that must have been hard was that hard it was it was hard yeah oh my gosh i did a recently i did an ipad uh puzzle that was um it's a new apple arcade game and there's a ip uh i played that one too it's good right pretty artwork yeah it's really nice and they do this whole thing with um i forgot his name anyway famous artist and one of his paintings

is just kind of monochrome. Like it's mostly just the same color and it's all kind of flat in a lot of ways and there's a little bit of texture difference in different places. That took me forever to do. That was a hard puzzle, man. That's a hard one, yeah.

I gotta have a lot of shit going on. I won't say what it is because I imagine you want to use that for app slappy when we finally bring back. Yes, we're bringing back apps lappie. That's right. We're going to start talking about apps again occasionally. Actually, Monday's going to become

kind of a revolving door for a few things. We're going to have occasional app slapy. We'll have Dan occasionally. We'll have, I want to say occasionally, about once a month is the idea. Yeah. We're thinking about bringing, at least for one, maybe more. We're going to bring, I'm going to sit in a call. I know you did.

Monica in here, and she's going to talk about, like, her favorite upcoming horror movies for her podcast, Gore. Glenn will talk about tea. Oh, right, right. We'll get Gwen in here and do a little tea segment. T's the T of the month. Yeah, all that stuff. So it'll be good. Looking forward to that.

It'll be good. And then App Sloppy is one of those. And I've got one I'm excited to talk about. And it's not the jigsaw puzzle one. It is a number puzzle that I am hooked on like I was hooked on Sudoku 12 years ago or whatever it was. That's intense. I know how hooked on Sudoku you were. I love to Sudoku.

Love a little bit of figure out numbers. Yeah, that's good. I like there's a, well, you know about it because you have it as well, but that poker yatsy combo game. Yes, pine tar poker. Love pine tar poker. Yeah. Okay, how far did you get? Like, what?

I'm still, so I'm gambling now, like, with the money. Yeah. Which is a much later stage thing, but I'm not sure, like, percentage-wise where I'm at. I'm pretty far. I've got, so basically, I've got all the runes purchase. But there's nothing left for me to purchase, basically. And I've complete, basically, there's one, hint that it's giving me of something I need to do and I think it's getting a very specific hand

in the main game, not the money gambling game, but a specific hand and then that unlocks or completes the game or something. Oh, wow. I don't think I'm quite there. I'm pretty far though and I enjoy the game to game so much that I sometimes forget there's this overarching thing I'm trying a complete. Yeah. Yeah, I know just a regular game, which is so tough at the beginning but then when you start getting the, oh, well, this lets me draw more cards and this lets me, you know, see how many more

hearts there are on the deck, etc. Yeah, I would check it out if you guys get a second. It's a pay-for game, no stupid ads or free-to-play stuff. It's called Pine Tar Poker, and we'll talk about it again on an app slap to get a little more deep, but it's really good.

God, it's so good. Yeah. I hope it shows up in other places, too. That'd be nice. All right. I did some experiments with our audio and I wanted to share this with you. Okay. Because Adobe put out a new tool. No, no, you should. You should.

And in this case, I do. And I'm not so sure it's that great. But Adobe put out a new product. It's basically just a free AI-driven utility that is supposed to take your voice audio and clean it up some. Oh. And it does do that, generally speaking. But it's got limited use. So I tried it out, and I'm trying to remember the name of it.

It is called, oh, yeah, I bookmarked it. It's called Enhanced Speech. Adobe enhanced speech. It's just a web utility. It's not like an app you download, and you don't have to be a sub to use it. It's just a thing Adobe put out there. They're going to have to start doing that more because everyone else is going to beat into the punch on AI-assisted image stuff. And, you know, Canva's already eating their lunch on what they're trying to do with Adobe Express and all that.

So they kind of have to. But anyway, they put this out as part of their, quote unquote podcasting tools. There's really two tools right now. One is you can test your microphone and it will give you feedback about where you're at with all the ranges and if you should adjust that's cool. Yeah, it's pretty neat. I like that one a lot. And it turns I went and did it and it says I'm right where I want to be. So it made me happy. Perfect. You didn't have to do anything. I probably would need to do something like. I don't know. You sound your, of all the people I do remote, you sound the best by far. So I think you're, yeah. I don't know if that's just your best

suited for a remote but also on your shows you sound i don't think you're in that i don't think you're in a problematic place at all because everyone else you know if i had to put them all up brian always sounds the most consistent um well think it probably helps that you're only like there's more lag with me and bobby yesterday than i ever get with you oh oh really you think it's because of just distance maybe or it's his connection or it's uh yeah i would think that that like it's not horrible i've had we've definitely had worse with people but his you could hear when we would do our read for the for the title there's just a chunk of space there

that you don't have. Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, when we used to do that test, like, all right, say something as soon as I get to the number three and one, two, three. And I remember days where it was like really bad.

Yeah, and that was usually attributed to my SP issues or whatever. Sort of tech issue, yeah. So here's what I did. I went and this is what it claimed. It claimed you could take audio that sounded echoey or in a room or like in a class

where someone's giving a lecture or something. and that it would make it kind of sound radio quality after you ran it through this filter. So here's my raw version. Let me turn off the background here. Here's my raw version of the audio and then I'll play the version that I ran through. All right. And we'll see what we think. So here's the raw on my phone in a room.

This is what I sound like talking to my phone just normally. And then we'll try the other way. All right. So echoey, passable, but you know, not fancy. Yeah, right. But you can tell that you're in like a bathroom or a closet or something. thing yeah i'm in a place that's not great so then i run it through the filter and here's what i got so again a reminder this is what it was before just so it's fresh in your head this is what i sound like talking to

my phone all right now play the enhanced version this is what i sound like talking to my phone uh just normally and then we'll try the other way it's okay it's not amazing what's weird is it starts to not sound like you it if i if i'm being honest it sounds like a hybrid of you and bo schwarz a little bit it again? Yeah, here goes. This is what I sound like talking to my phone, uh, just normally. And then we'll try the other way. Yeah, yeah. There's a little bowshorts in there. Yeah, a little roboty, a little shortsy and a little nasally. It's just not, it's not all there, right? It's not perfect. That's, uh, good. All right. AI, uh, finally we see AI, uh, stumble. Yeah, we've seen, we've seen the underbelly here. Now, here's, so I decided after I'm like, well, what would it, what would happen if I took a raw episode file?

sure and ran it through this thing what would it do and it's not meant to do things that have a lot of music or background stuff or multiple voices like it wants a consistent thing so this is it is showing the limits of the technology a little bit but it turned out real weird and i want to share this with you so here's how you and i sound when we were doing titles at the top of the show after the filter so here you go coming up on tms lovely lady dumps waiter there's a hair in my ibuprofen bang zon Zoom buzz to the moon. Just let Veronica win. Pot marks take the time. There's a commercial, but you can, it sounds like Brian's in a pile of like cotton. Yeah, yeah, I'm among Veronica's marshmallows. This is what I am.

That's not what it sounds like, basically. Yeah, totally. So then I wanted to hear, how does our theme song sound? Oh, all right. Oh, God. Yeah, these things are usually trash with music. Yeah, here's where shit gets weird. All right.

So I'm going to play this. This is the theme song for TMS, our, you know, our opener, which should sound like where is it here it should sound like this you know our normal thing right yeah here's what it came through as here it is

the bad has as that's it gets weirder the morning stream oh no the bad apes have the crystal laser

oh weird It's like it, it's funny that that just automatically triggers. It's like Pavlov's chat room over there that can't stop typing TMS when they hear that. You guys that don't come live, you should really see this one day. It's insane. I got to make a gift out of it. It's like they just get taken over like a zombie horde. Yeah, that's funny how it isolates the tree.

Yeah, and tries to make it sound like a dude saying it, right? Like it's just, yeah. Now, I tried it with the mid-song, just a little section of it. And by the way, it's the first time I've ever felt completely 100% comfortable playing any of the music out loud on YouTube because there's no way their algorithm will make sense to this. Right. Yeah, good. But listen to what it tries to do to that. And I'm pretty sure both songs that day had a female vocalist.

Anyway, here it is. We'll see how it sounds. I don't know what song it was. But it's crazy how the background arrangement actually sounds right, but they've, wow. They put little robots. It's really weird. All right, here's more from the final song. You'll recognize the song, but the way, boy, they do her voice dirty.

Here it is. Whoops. It was like a dude at the end going, or something. Bizarre. Isn't that weird? There's a trivia game in there somewhere, right? Where we have to like,

maybe you take a section of a movie clip and run it through that and see if we can identify the movie kind of thing. Yeah, or even, I mean, even doing it with a song, although you'd probably figure out the background. I don't know. I'd have a hard time.

If I heard that raw without any notice, I would have a really hard time telling you what the hell that song was. Yeah, yeah. You know, because it was so fresh. It should just happen Tuesday. It's a little easier. But anyway, I guess there's a little bit of KK slider to that.

That's really funny. Yeah, totally. If I'm going to say, so here's my review, Adobe, for your free AI audio enhancement thing. Here's where I think people use it. They'll use it the way you described it. If somebody heard a thing in class and it was quiet, hard to hear, and had too much echo, you're going to immediately see an improvement. If you're on your phone, your phone's off to the side and you're filming something.

you're putting something together with your phone and you're just too echoey this is going to sound a lot better when you edit this in for sure other than that I can't use it all right I just can't yeah it's too weird not good not not smart enough yeah once you get to a place where you can say uh where your AI is good enough to say I will take all spoken sound isolate all those waveforms within the body of the of the product not separate tracks but one full track and enhance those and then touch nothing else and then just level eight anything that may need it. You do a tool like that. We'll talk. You and I'll have, we'll be friends on that. It'll be fine, yeah. The other thing I'd say to Adobe about their free audio adjuster program is you've priced it accordingly.

Adobe, well done. Yeah, well done. For once, for once you're charging the right price. Your prices are accurate. That's right. There's things, I pay for audition still because I love it. And audition can do a lot of what I, but it already does. I mean, that's what I do every day.

It does what I need to do to get where I want to be when I put out the final file. Yep. So they didn't include any of this in there, which I think is on purpose because it's just too weird. Yeah. It's too weird. You know, I'm sure there's like a audio filter or something. You can load into it or something like a stack or something. It's very, very funky.

One final thing before we get our good pal in here. Oh, we have two things. Never mind. Let me give you this first one. Sure. We got a call from somebody. I just want to play it because it's weird. This is a Utah connection.

It's five seconds long. Enjoy. Hey, this is Jonathan calling from New York. I have a Utah connection. I've been there. That's his whole call. Well, many of us then do. So there's a lot of people here now with Utah connections.

Yeah, I feel like we've really nailed what it means to have a Utah connection by saying you've been here. Brian, tell me about Rainbow Bright. What's her deal? She's asking something. Yeah, she asked a question in the pre-show, pre-pre-show, like during the lead-up, asked if I've ever walked the length of the Las Vegas Strip. So basically from the stratosphere down to Mandalay Bay, which is currently like your Las Vegas strip endpoints, basically. I absolutely have. This is, I'm trying to get Chris Brown, by the way, to come to, um,

TMS Vegas, because I think a lot of people would love to have a drink with the real Chris Brown. Oh, we'd love to see. I'd love to meet Chris Brown. That'd be great. But he, uh, he and I were drinking down at a bar in Mandalay Bay called Rum Jungle. And he, uh, I won't go into the full long story about it, but this was during one of our, um, trade shows that we were working. And he was staying at Mandalay Bay. I was staying at the other end at the Westgate.

And this was years before Lyft and Uber. You could basically take taxis, but you also have the monorail and that sort of thing. Right. You walk a lot in Vegas. You walk a lot. You do. So he and I are drinking. It's just rum drink after rum drink, and we're getting, people are buying them for us,

and we're ordering our own and et cetera, et cetera. And then Chris says, I've got to, this is the first time I ever called him Chris. Then he says, hold, I've got to go to the bathroom. And he disappears. I'm like, all right, cool. Well, you just ordered a drink. So I drank my drink. I'm kind of waiting.

He's taking an awful long time to come back. Yeah. I finish my drink. I'm like, well, screw it. I'm going to drink his drink, and I'll teach him a lesson about being gone so long. Yeah. I drink his drink, and he still hasn't come back yet. So I'm like, well, all right, I'll just sit.

We were basically standing at the bar, but there were these nice comfy booths behind it. I'm like, well, I'm going to sit down on the booth. The next thing I know, I'm getting poked by a security guard saying, you can't sleep here, who's weirdly standing sideways. And then I realize I'm just laying down. Oh, damn. And I kind of get up and I'm like, okay, no problem. And I decided, okay, Chris Brown never came back.

And so I start plotting my way from Mandalay Bay. First, I try and go up to like the little tram that goes from Mandalay Bay to Excalibur. I figured out, in my mind, I know, all right, Mandalay Bay to Excalibur, tram, cross the street, go across to Montereil, hop on the monorail boom all the way to westgate no problem yeah easy peasy that would be an easy peasy if this was uh the right time of day because uh the monorail that the tram stops at a certain time and the monorail stops at a certain time right so and i missed both of those times so basically i went from mandalay bay walked across the bridge to mgm and then like just like like basically it was a marionette being held up by strings all the way down from...

I don't want to jump to... The Westgate is the Las Vegas Hilton where the Star Trek experience used to be. Sure, sure. And I don't want to jump to conclusions here, but what the frick happened to Chris Brown? The real Chris Brown. He, as drunk as I was, he was there as well. He ended up lost in the center of Mandalay Bay.

And one of our clients, one of our customers, who I'm still, you know, still a customer of the new company that I do some freelance for and that he works for, found him and said, all right, let's get you, let's get you back to your room. Where is your room? And she walked him all the way back up, tossed him in his room, pulled the door shut, and went about her business. Wow.

But, yeah, and, you know, at no point did he say, oh, would you do me a favor and go over to Rum Jungle and let Brian know that I'm out for the night or something like that? He just, like, passed out and did not see him until the next day. I love that you got woken up by a guard guy. I know. I feel like it's a bucket list item that I never knew I had on my bucket list, right? Like, getting poked by security guard in a bar and told, you can't sleep here, sir. When we went to Vegas one year, 95, I think it was.

me, my wife who had only been married a year or a couple years my friend Andrew and his wife Annie all walked from Mandalay Bay all the way down to the stratosphere that direction that night

the entire length and then when we were done there we were like are we walking back and we all were like no no we're taking taxi the deuce we'll take whatever

but yeah we took a taxi The Monoriel, I don't think the Monorail was there in 95, was it? It may not have been. And even if it was, I don't think I had the knowledge to know where to get on and off and how to do the best route and all that stuff. I think I would have been out of it. But I wasn't drinking, so I wouldn't have that reason. But we were just like, it's just our legs are killing.

It was a long walk, man. That's a long way to go. And the Monorail is misleadingly beneficial because you have to go all the way through whatever casino it is you need to get to, to get to the Monorail. station. MGM Grand is the worst. Like, the Monorail station itself is right by the, really close to the entrance of the, of, uh, MGM Grand, but you have to go down this area and then through the,

the, uh, these stores aren't, these stores and restaurants aren't good enough to put in the main level. Yeah. Yeah. Of our casino hotel. These are like, you know, Wetzel's pretzels and the Maga hat store and stuff like that. You have to go down through, to get to the actual modern rail. Yeah, it almost makes that thing kind of useless. Kind of useless.

Like, if you happen to be in one of the hotels and you're going to the other hotel and don't have to go out to the strip, that's great, right? Like, oh, I'm staying in MGM Grand. We're going to Paris for dinner to get some food there. Perfect. You get out in Paris,

and you're pretty much there. Yeah, if you're in that little zone, and maybe that's all it was really meant for, to keep people around that zone and I don't know just doesn't do a lot of it. For sure. I mean it is it is the the biggest example of exit through the gift shop it's like sure take the monorail

now enjoy the entirety of our casino on your way across the street to cosmopolitan yeah basically uh well rainbow bright there's your answer there you go we have walked the length now if you thought uh Fremont was the length of the like all the way to Fremont

and back to Mandalay that's not technically the full strip strip ends no yeah at stratosphere right and that's yeah las vegas boulevard basically the the what's called the las vegas strip uh plus las vegas boulevard which is the strip is north south fremont is east west right and technically it could grow further south i suppose it could and probably will i mean there's stuff down there there's uh there's the conveyor belt sushi place that we're going to go to i hope uh which is just south of mandalay bay right um in the what is that place called it's like the it's an outdoor mallsy kind of place oh yeah kimman loves it there uh i forgot

the name of it but yeah that's out there but the problem is you start running right into the airport at some point and uh yeah i mean that may be convenient i guess just jumped right off it'd be great if they could run that if they could run the monorail to the airport they would i mean boy the taxi industry would poop their pants and protest but oh they already are pissed i imagine them now oh they just they hate they hate the fact that uber they fought two the nail to keep Uber and lift out of Vegas. Didn't work. Sometimes the genie's out of the bottle, son.

Yep, exactly. Nothing you can do. All right. Here's something we can do. Let's do that. We're going to add Amy to the call. Yes. Yep. She has a book she's been holding on to for a whole week because we aren't here last Thursday. It's a little crumpled up now.

I know. It's hard to read because she's been doing that. It's all wrinkly and weird. Anyway, here's that. Someone wrote. rode all over it. Who knows. Hey, Amy, what's going on? Welcome back to the show for Read This. How are you?

Hi. Oh, you guys are talking about my book. Yeah, your book you've been holding on to for a week. Right at the moment. So I listen on Twitch before you guys call me into the call, but then, you know, there's a little chunk of audio that I don't hear in between picking up the call

and started to talk to you guys. Who knows what dirty cheese were airing about you? Exactly. You know, chunk of delay, we can say whatever we want during that chunk of delay. We say, we say, let's get Amy in here. Boy, doesn't she suck. Anyway, books, books, everybody, books. And you never hear it.

Exactly. You totally could. And I would never know. So I want to tack on to what you guys were talking about. I actually was taking notes, you know, like a good little book. Sure. So, you know, talking about your little drunken escapade in Vegas. And the first thing I thought of while you were describing that, I was like,

And I said this in the chat, things only a dude can do, right? Like, a woman cannot do that. Pass out in a bar. Yeah. Bad freaking news for sure. Any femme presenting person cannot do that. It would be very unsafe. So on that note, Bobby had a brilliant idea last year, and I think we should re-implement it this year.

There's going to be a collection of a. us who will gladly give out our numbers. And if you want to text us, we will be the safe people. Like if somebody is coming up to you, like last year we had a thing, right? Like somebody, then somebody punched somebody? Cheezy G, yeah, cheesy G decked a guy in the plaza bar who was getting a little hand, like would not leave her alone. She gave him so many warnings, verbal warnings.

And then he got a little handsy and she just floored him, basically. I still blame her. her anger came mostly from losing to miss Pac-Man to me the day before oh it all yeah might have come from craps too but it built up she lost uh we taught her how to play craps and it didn't go very well for her but

uh yeah no i tried like you have no idea how much I tried to get that video uh from the security cameras at the plaza I really I talked to the right people and they just couldn't get them to me why wouldn't they do it would they just they have a policy where they won't give that stuff out probably No, because the person even said,

let me see, do you know the approximate time? Let me see if I can get it. And then he just never got back to me. But I went through three people to finally get the right person and was in contact with him. And I think you tried, said, that can find it. And then just didn't bother replying back to me. Well, they're busy.

They're following that handsy guy around with other videos, I guess. Right. Yeah, we got your back over there. If you guys need help, there's always somebody who's there to walk you. If you're going to walk the length of the strip and your, you know, your Claire Gack, don't do it. We get a buddy system going. We'll go with you. It's all good.

Yeah. Claire's in the chat going, I'm a safe person. No, Claire, you need a safe person. Yeah, you need to employ the buddy system. And if Claire Gack is your buddy, then get a third buddy. Get a third buddy. Well, and I'll go ahead and say this because I know it to be true. Chuck is always available for that.

And, you know, Chuck is like. Much like Scott, he is completely sober, has been for over a year. So, you know, he will be glad to, and feel obliged, frankly, to make sure that you are safely returned to your hotel room and whatever. This is what's hilarious, too. Like, when you're a tall guy, guys are high, me and Brian's height, we are automatically kind of intimidating to strangers and they will not mess with us. even though I don't feel like that guy I don't feel like an intimidating guy at all but they see us as that

so if you just need us to walk around with you we're good we'll do it you know oh yeah and Bobby points out in the chat it's not just about having a buddy if you're out drinking or whatever it's also if someone is coming up to you and being creepy and it doesn't matter gender I don't care whatever somebody's coming up to you being creepy

and you need somebody to pretend to be your significant other or your overprotective mom figure whatever if you you know I don't care if you need somebody to creep somebody the heck out and make them go away

Chuck's your man I will do that I will oh man I've been taking lessons I can creep somebody out no problem I'd be like oh no you don't want her number people with her number end up like on lists for you know organ

donation and stuff like that you don't want that i pity the fool that tries to do this to carter because she she's got wolverine power she will tear them to pieces for real she's so strong did that and when she was in iceland oh yeah russian uh russian dude uh i guess he was just drunk and was being belligerent he wasn't like being creepy but i can't remember how that turned out though but i was like part of me wants to see one of those go to fruition because i'm not kidding about her strength she's got bare strength just really strong and when she's like in a corner or needs to you know if the defense mechanisms kick in i would not want to be in that path she's scary as hell when she's mad anyway and she's such a sweet kid she's just a nice kind little you know normal kid

until you put her in a bad situation and then i i pray for you because you're all going to die at her hands she's a rough yeah anyway kind of like that story i was telling before about the guy jeremy that we always took out with us when we were in France, you know, like he was like six foot five. That's why, you know, we took him out with us because nobody would mess with us because he was huge, you know. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. It's weird what size does, even though some of us feel like total, you know, I don't feel like a big tough guy at all. No, no.

People see me. They don't know me. They think, oh, that guy's six to four. Who's scary? Boy, I can intimidate like the best of them. If push came to shove, I'd be swinging my arms like the, the, the blades. of a rototiller. That's right.

Hoping to make contact with whoever. Plus, I can resting bitch face people off. They'll be sitting there and if they just look at me and all I'm doing is relaxing and chilling, they'll think I'm pissed. I'm going to kill them. So it's good. Exactly. It's all good.

Yeah, you'd be surprised how effective just a blank stare is sometimes. Oh, yeah. Like, and just completely creeping someone out. And just saying something completely innocent, but making it sound creepy. Yeah, and do it low. You've got to get down in this register here. Very monotone. Excuse me, what are you doing here?

And they're just like, oh, shit. I can't find this. Embrace your inner Benstein, you know, just give it that flat, you know, that flat delivery. My inner Benstein came out of me a long time ago. Anyway. So, Brian, I'm glad to hear that your back is feeling better also. Yeah, sure. Do you think that you might be able to do a bike ride when you do something?

Listen, I'm going full speed. head for the MS-150 this year. So my plan is yes to rent a bike while we're in Vegas and at least get a nice few-hour half-day ride in or something with Chuck and whoever else wants to go. I think Monday morning is probably going to be the ideal time for that before everybody starts coming in, but that's currently the plan. Nice. Awesome.

Yeah, I know Monkey Bananas is planning to join you guys as well. So if anybody else is a cyclist wants to get in on that, you know. Monkey Bananas is welcome. He just can't bring his brother who will beat everybody in a race. It's too late. It's happening. He's already not only bringing his brother, but his brother is already registered for the competition. Yeah, but if you put him in the bike, do not play a fighting game with that guy.

No, he'll destroy you. Yeah, that's where he beat me, I think. I think that's the final game I played and he whooped me. And that game was His controller was broken And sort of He couldn't go back or something There was some weird thing wrong

With his stick And he still beat me Bastard Yeah Yeah I have other biggest questions But I'll email you I can I mean I can ask him here

We'll save him Because we gotta get to the book Yeah We gotta get moving on We got Wendy in like 12 or something So I'll shoot you a message Brian And ask some of these other questions

I will answer them And if some of them are great for like uh spread the knowledge then we'll we'll also answer them on the show cool cool um so yeah and one last note if you get a chance to ride in a car with kim and scott totally uh take them up on it because it's as entertaining as any episode of skim it's like it's exactly yeah if you guys think you guys think we're some kind of weird fakery on the show going on just spend some time in our car it's worse than you think it's worse than you think i'm telling you it's totally it's yeah it's it's it's like

like an episode of that. And Chuck and I were just crack it up because I was like, they're like us. We should have recorded that. You're big dorks. The big dork, the dork happens mic on or not. That's how it works around here.

All right. Let's get to your book. And I'm sorry about my dog barking in the background. So hold on a second. Chuck. You did that our purpose. You got your own mark moment. I love it.

It's good. And you come get your dog. Oh, it's his dog when she's barking, I see. Oh, yeah. Well, that one is his dog. That one's Beauregard. Violet, the little dark one is mine. But anyway, so yeah, you go ahead, roll the clip.

It doesn't need any introduction. All right, here we go. Here's the clip. I'm a modern man, a man for the millennium, digital and smoke-free. A diversified multicultural postmodern deconstructionist, politically anatomically and ecologically incorrect. I've been uplinked and downloaded, I've been inputted and outsourced, I know the upside of downsizing, I know the downside of upgrading.

I'm a high-tech low-life, a cutting-edge, state-of-the-art, bi-coastal multitasker, and I can give you a gigabyte in a nanosecond. I'm new wave, but I'm old-school, and my inner child is outward bound. I'm a hot-wired heat-seeking, warm-hearted, cool customer, voice-activated, and biodegradable. I interface with my database, my databases in cyberspace, so I'm interactive, I'm hyperactive, and from time to time I'm radioactive. Behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve,

riding the wave, dodging the bullet, pushing the envelope. I'm on point, on task, on message, and off drugs. I got no need for coke and speed. I got no urge to binge and purge. I'm in the moment, on the edge,

over the top, but under the radar. A high-concept, low-profile, medium-range ballistic missionary. A street-wise smart bomb. A top-gun bottom feeder. I wear power ties. I tell power lies. I take power naps.

I run victory laps. I'm a totally ongoing, Bigfoot slam dunk rainmaker with a proactive outreach, a raging workaholic, a working rageaholic out of rehab and in denial. You know what? He would have been the most amazing rap artist of all time.

Right? He really would. He'd be able to beat Eminem in that mom spaghetti Lose Yourself Rap at the beginning of 8. I would have paid to see that. Yeah, he would win all rap battles. He would have been lord of the form. But instead we got him in this form. So that's

obviously George Carlin. What is the What's the book this week? It is indeed, George Carlin. The book is called When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops? This was released in 2004, and you know, you can read it as a book if you so choose, but I obviously, for very obvious reasons, recommend getting the audiobook because there's nothing like hearing George do it himself. And, I mean, that little, that little spiel there, that's like a third of that.

I had to cut it off because I was like, okay, this clip is going to be too long. You know, so I had to find a place where, good luck finding a place where George Carlin takes a breath. Right, right. It's hard to do. I zoomed way in so that I could see all the little blips in there when I could find a place where I wasn't catching a bit of the next word. It was, yeah, he's, he is. he's amazing and he can he can apparently do that for like five minutes or so oh yeah he can go and go and go that guy I don't know if there's anybody anybody like him he's just

hearing that again is a great reminder I watched that documentary recently which was fantastic can't recommend it enough and it's uh I I one of a kind stuff like nobody else is like that like him or hate him the talent of just like his oration ability his ability just get huge ideas out quickly and in a funny way but also make you think it's amazing you know is so it's so great not you know not anarchistic but also not uh sheep you know fall in the herd it's just like his own path that just is like so knowledgeable and makes so much sense yeah oh absolutely and he's he's what i would call a word smith um you know for for sure like he he plays with words in, you know, a way that is super pleasing to your ear, but also it makes you, makes you think

and, but he does it so quickly and he speaks so quickly that you have to kind of catch up. Like, by the time you're like, oh, yeah, then he's gone, he's said six other things. Yeah, and you watch any of his concerts, like any of his live concerts, here's what's crazy about that guy. He has, doesn't have any crutch words, never uses ums or us or anything like that. he never stumbles over a word and has to resay it like the rest of humanity he doesn't do that and he'll go that two and a half hours on stage and never once make one of those foibles and then he'll also rattle off stuff that he must have burned into his brain because there's

no other way to remember it and be able to do it that that you know precisely even in his older age right before he died he's looking you know crispy and ready to go up there and he still just could pound that stuff out in a way that I just don't. I mean, it's almost like I can't think of another person who has that power. It's insane what he was able to do. Oh, for real. I absolutely,

I absolutely agree. He was absolutely one of a kind just, yeah, and I would love to have been able to hear his take on what's going on now. Although you listen to some of his older stuff and oddly it still

applies. It's like, The more things change, the more they stay the same. No, it's like, I think he had a handle on the primordial version of what sucks in life. And you can apply it to almost anything. So something today is going on either politically or socially or whatever it is, you can go back and find some Carlin bit that addresses it. And he may have done it in like 72, but somehow it feels like he did it in 2022. It's crazy. Oh, yeah.

Crazy. I for real like he did a he did a bit in this in this book there is a section where he talks about the 10 commandments and he he edits the 10 commandments and it's fantastic I don't want to spoil it because it's it's great and then it's hilarious but you're like you know you're right and he starts it off with okay the first three commandments are just complete bullshit just throw them away you know so it's Yeah, I 100% recommend this was, I got in kind of a mood for this because I'm in kind of a bad mood last week. And so I was like, all right, I'm going to pull out some carlin this week. And it's funny. Somebody said, I think it was ICOR or somebody in the chat wrote a title that was like the seven audiobooks we can't play on TMS with Amy. and that's really funny because I sent Scott two clips and one of them was a little bit dirty and I was like okay let me give you this other one just in case and yeah it turns out it was too

dirty even though I bleep out a bunch of stuff it was still too dirty yeah for the record don't worry Claire I'll send it to you yeah you'll get it Claire but the main reason we went with the one we did is I just feel like the clip you sent or this clip we played is so indicative of his his thing that it just worked really well did we talk about what the name of the book is I don't even know if we did. Yes. The name of the book is, When will Jesus bring the crows?

When will Jesus bring a corks? That's right. Covers got him doing the last supper with his knife and fork out. That's right. Among all the apostles. That's right. Yeah, this, here's what I would consider to be the potentially only good use of an AI chatbot is giving us an accurate George Carlin perspective on the world today.

Yeah. They'd have to really be good at it. But can you imagine if you could. Just put in a prompt and say, what would Carlin say about this? And then have that thing poop it out in the way he would have said. I mean, that's all weird. And I'm not sure I like that future, but it still would be really interesting to. I kind of want it.

I kind of want to see. So I heard a thing on NPR this morning where they were asking it all about, you know, flying a rocket and could it fly a rocket? Could like the chat GPD fly a rocket? Oh, God. And it was, and they were asking an actual rocket scientist to review the, the output from it. And, you know, I was like, okay, that's kind of interesting. I didn't get to listen to the whole thing because I was just in my car, but, and I got where I was going before the

piece was over. You know what a rocket is like, it's like a giant missile that, uh, that the robots can point at humanity. No, I say. No. Yeah. That's a good point. Um, I just tried to, interesting points on there, though, that it was like, um, you know, we've kind of been autopiliting a lot of stuff like that for a while now. You know, like the space program's been doing that since the Apollo missions. So we've kind of been letting the computer steer for a while. Kind of, yeah. Anyway, George Carlin, yeah.

I tried to get into chat GPT just now to see if we could do, like, describe the Korean war from the perspective of George Carlin. Just see what it would say. But it's a capacity once again, and I can't freaking do it. Oh, bum. Get out of there. There's people right now at work or at. school going, write my freaking paper for this week. Exactly. List the 10 ways that capitalism

is better than communism. Yeah, and then they go drink all weekend while their teacher gives them an A. It's terrible future we're heading toward. Nobody's good at anything anymore. Anyway, well, this is fantastic. Go check it out. Available on Amazon I see, both in written and obviously audio form. And it's among other books of his, right? He's got other stuff, I believe. Oh, yes. He has other books as well. So I think Napalm and Silly Puddy was the one he wrote right before that. So, yeah, but he has several books that he wrote. And he reads them all for an, for an audio books. So yeah, I would, I would totally recommend going and check in all of them out because they're fantastic. Very, very cool. Amy, thanks for bringing this, as always. This will be up on

quicktms. For those looking for all the stuff we cover on our segments during the week, including Amy's segment. So if you forgot the name of the book or otherwise wanted to see what we talked about, you can find it there. Amy, have a great week. I can't wait to talk to you one more time next week.

And then another time after that and then many times after that. I'll be here. Bye now. All right. We're, we're, oh, let me in.

Hold on a second. Oh, my gosh. Okay. How would George Carlin describe... Ooh, you found some. Okay. You got in? What do we... I'll say, I'll do it. The Korean War. Whoops, Korean War. Okay. Let's see what it says. It's thinking. As an AI language model, I don't have personal opinions or emotions, but based on George Carlin's style of comedy, he may have described the Korean War in a sarcastic and critical manner.

Well, that's not what I'm looking for. Slash sarcasm slash n-sarcasm. Yeah. Humorous observations about the events and circumstances surrounding the conflict. All right, chat, GBT, GBT, go back to bed. It's fine. Jokey, Jokey, Jokey, Reference. Jokey, Jokey, reference. Yep.

F-word. There you have it. All right, that's it. We are going to take a break. When we come back, we'll spend some time with my sister Wendy. She's back this week. Back from Chicago from her fantastic trip there. And we have, I think, a really great.

email to share with her. So that'll come up here in a minute. But before that, we need to have a break and we need to have a song. So, Brian, you can probably give us those two things. What do you got? I have a break. I have a song. Let's break with this song. Here's one that actually came to us from a listener who somehow is affiliated with the band.

A guy named Andrew wrote in and said, hey, hope you guys are doing well. I'd love to recommend an indie band for you to play on TMS. Selfish bodies, hideous. Selfish bodies being the band. Hidious being the song. They are a wicked female fronted rock band from Edmonton, Canada. He is affiliate with the band and did get their permission.

So that is the requirement if you have an indie in the middle that you want to recommend. That's the only requirement I have is that you just ask the band if it's cool to play them on the show. And if we get a yes, then that is all the permission that I need. I just need it written. Sure. Here is their song of Hidious. This is really, really good. And I'm kind of glad that you didn't play this yesterday because I want to be here to hear it.

So here is the song Hiddeus by the band from Edmonton, Canada, Selfish Bodies. Mother, Mother says to keep your friends closer, closer than your enemies. Forget about the old saints. Forget about the old saints. Don't do you any good Well, I'm hideous. You're hideous. You're hideous too. I'm selfish. You're a little bit rude. I'm a loser. You're so, so cool. I'm serious. You're so, cool. I'm hideous. You're a little bit. I'm selfish. You're a little. be rude i'm a loser you're so so cool i'm serious you're so so so cool like oh like so so so hideous Like so, so, so, so, so we're used.

Well, I've been chasing something that isn't even there anymore. You don't feel anything Not even scared anymore Well, I'm hideous, you're a hideous too I'm a little bit rude I'm a loser You're so, so cool I'm serious

You're so, so cool I'm hideous You're hideous too I'm selfish You're a little bit rude I'm a loser You're so, so cool I'm serious

You're so, so cool Like Oh Ooh Ooh Ooh Oh Like so

So, so So hideous Like so so, so, so hideous. Well, what will people think, John, the history books will clean it up. doesn't matter, I'll not appear in the history books anyway. Only you. Franklin did this and Franklin did that and Franklin did some other damn thing. I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the master is away. The morning stream. I'm alive. I live. To safeguard the continuity of

this greatest society to serve Liberia, baby. Welcome back to the show. Hey, tell us who that was again so I can go find it later. Boy, if I could, I could. That is a song called Hidious by the band

Selfish Bodies. Big thanks again to Andrew for sending that to us and getting permission for us to play it on the show. Yeah, and I don't know why this This wasn't supposed to play right here. This was supposed to play. But for some reason, something in my soundboard's effed, and I got to figure out why. But see, it still was enough to trigger the tadpole.

That's all it took. The tadpole just went crazy still. Maybe I did it on purpose, chat. Oh. Maybe. Maybe it felt like the show started twice today. I don't know. Hmm.

All right. We are going to add Wendy to it and see what she's got going on. Okay. All right. She's got thoughts. She's got feelings. You know, she's a human being with ideas. Both of which are very important, I believe. She has expertise in this area. So let's play this.

It is my sister Wendy, fresh back from a trip to Chicago. How to go there, by the way? How is Chicago? Great. Yeah. It's such a cool town. It is a cool town. I mean, really cold.

Very windy. Holy cow. But. That's the only bad part. Well, it is the... They call it the windy city. They should call it the windy city. When they call it the one...

I mean, it's not kidding. When they call it the broad shoulders thing, what's that? What does that refer to? Your broad shoulders? It just supports all of you. Okay. We got broad shoulders. We can support all of you.

Or even when it's windy, we'll support you with windy. Yeah, it was incredibly... Like, you know, I don't know. What other towns have nicknames that are sometimes true? I think it's 100% true there. Yeah. All the time. Brotherly love.

It depends. Depends. Let's see what happens when they lose or win the Super Bowl. Okay. Denver, the Mile High City. Yeah, in one spot. Yeah. It is a mile high.

They're going to change it. Okay. What about us? We're the Beehive state, which I always hated growing up. I can't stand that term. But it's because we're supposed to be busy as bees, you know. Busy, little bees. Little bees running around.

Do you think that's happening? You're busy? I'm busy. So I guess I am the living embodiment of the state's motto. I don't know. You are. Good job. Ah, yeah. No. That goes great.

I lived a lifetime dream. Just thought I'd share it. I got to see Way, wait, wait, don't tell me live. Awesome. I've only listened to the ghost of Carl Castle. Yeah. Have you ever seen Peter Sagle in person before? No, but his face and voice do not match. Not at all.

Not at all. Yeah, through me, I saw him in an interview and I went, That is not Peter Sagle. Who that frick is that? That's not right. At all. It is very bizarre. But I'll tell you, it was two and a half hours.

And when you guys listen on the radio, it's only an hour. So I'm telling you, the funniest parts no one ever gets to hear. Sure, that's true. So funny. Yeah. I'll bet. That's cool. So who were the guests, celebrity types that were there?

Brian Babylon was the one, you know, they have three comedians. Yeah. Gene Farsad, who is so funny. And Mazra Brani, who always does an accent that is so bad. And he did Australian. And I was so happy that I got to hear it in person. I swear, the only time I ever hear it, it's what's her name? Paula Poundstone's always there, I feel like.

Oh, yeah. And she's fine. That would have been the dream. Nothing wrong with her. But, you know. Just because she's such a fixture. It would be fun to actually have seen her. And then the caller, you know, like the famous person was Natasha Leone.

Oh, yeah. She's in her new poker face. I like her. I was talking to him yesterday. She was really funny. That woman. She's a cockroach at any point. I don't feel like you get true Natasha Leone unless she says the words

Cockaroach. It needs to happen. What's amazing is her voice is like, is she an 85-year-old smoker? No, that's exactly what we were talking about. Kim and I were just having this discussion. She is 25 and 85 at the exact same time that woman. Exactly. Yeah. And she tells a story about getting caught. She would sell pot in her Upper East Side High School. And she would take the first hit and then get in an elevator and be confused why she got caught because, of course, it smelled so bad. So, I mean, I think she's done something to her throat. I can't imagine that's natural. But she is. But that seems to fit. Like you telling me that story does not surprise me at all. And it makes me think her first season of oranges the new.

Black was her actually serving time for pot distribution. Well, that'd be great. She is great. The funnest part was like later we listened to it with the kids. When we got home, we were home by Saturday, so we listened to it. And we were just like, oh, like the funny things on the back end, it was so much fun. But then also realizing like, you know, they cut out all the inappropriate, hilarious stuff. But then the other part was like this caller from St. Paul, bless him, uh, here.

in my neighborhood was just did not understand what he was trying to say and she kept repeating the wrong word. I mean, it took like 20 minutes of laughing. But in the show, they just like edit it. So it sounds normal. And I'm like, oh, the magic of radio. That was very fun. It'd be cool if they put that stuff out someplace, the extra stuff. You know, maybe they do. Yes. Maybe they do. I don't know, but not two and a half hours worth. It was long. Yeah, that is long. Well, that's great. What a cool bucket list. item you can now check off and uh you'll never have to see peter sagle's face again ever again because it still doesn't look right nope looks wrong people say that to us all the time no they'll see

brian and i for the first time they're like you don't look like you sound yeah that's not you're not brian yeah you guys have the face for radio we sure do uh well anyway it's good to have you back we're going to do an email here uh as you know wendy's a real therapist helps people all the time with real problems comes on thursdays and helps you with yours and um we got one today that is probably going to be relatable to a certain segment of our listeners, certainly is to me. And I'll just read it. It's an anonymous submitter who says, I'm a very casual gamer and a father of four boys. I love sharing my favorite video games with them, but I have one kid out of the four that can't handle it. He is unable to moderate his time. He rage quits. He gets upset when

Fortnite doesn't go his way. All of my other boys are relaxed and understand games should be fun. is is it fair to ban games for my one kid or should all my kids be banned as well how would you handle this situation p.s the problem kid is 10 if y'all wanted to know boy i i i'll tell you where i'm where i get hung up him at the end saying the problem kid is 10 now i know what he means i know what he means he's saying like the kidding question are you just using that term with us or yeah like it's just if To me, that just is a little bit of a red flag, but maybe I'm wrong. But anyway, Wendy, you've had sons.

Okay, real quick, did he mention birth order? No, no. He does not say, just says one kid out of the four is a rage quitter and he's 10. All right. So if you're listening, send us birth order, please. I'd like to know which position in the family this kid is. No, wait, before you go on, why does that matter? I mean, I think I know why to tell.

Well, I'll tell you. It's the response. Yeah, all right. And then I'll tell you otherwise. but I have another analogy. I realized one of my superpowers, which is really kryptonite, but it's a superpower, you know, it fluctuates between which it is, is bad analogies. Like, I have so many.

They just come out of my mouth. If anybody you say bad analogies, do you mean, yeah, boy, I don't know if there's anybody else in your family who also suffers from that exact problem. Yeah. Let me think. I like that you call it a superpower, though. I'm going to start saying that mine is a superpower. Well, I'll tell you way it's a superpower because sometimes as I'm doing it with a client, it like just makes everything make more sense. That's the point of the analogy, right? Like you use it to make something clear. Sometimes they're awesome. Like the other one, I had a really terrible one, which was about constipation. The person's like, what? I'm like, I know. You keep everything in and then there's problems and things come out sideways. Anyway, and they're just like gross, but it got the point across. Anyway, so I have a problem. with analogies. But this one, I think, is great.

And I actually stole it from a listener, so he may be listening. Oh, okay. And it's really helpful, and I think it applies to her, I think. Okay. So you, Ray, you grew up in a family, and that family is a department store. And at that department store, you get socks. You have a, you probably got them at Christmas and you're still bitter about it, But you got socks from that family of origin, right?

Yeah. Right. And you go and you partner someone with someone in life. And this person, you are just perpetually trying to give those socks back to. Yeah. Like, here, can you just take the socks back? But it turns out the person is a hardware store. So they don't take socks.

Yeah. They can't take socks. There's no mechanism where that would ever work or make sense. So in other words, you got socks at Walmart and you're trying to return them at a grocery store. and they're like, sir, we can't, we didn't, you didn't buy those here and we don't sell socks. Exactly. And that is a hundred percent of marriages. Okay.

So very commonly, right, like, and it can be from a large issue down to really small ones of what I learned how I was traumatized. You know, we talked about food, family of origin issues. That's kind of what I'm getting at. The socks are the food, right? So you have this stuff that happened there, whatever it may be. Sometimes it's just what you're used to are the socks, right? And then you're, you know, you partner up with someone who has a whole

another set of socks. They're trying to return to your hardware store. It just doesn't work great. Now, the fun part about, here's where I break the internet with my analogy, is that when you become a parent, there is a whole new pressure put on this sock exchange business, which is little mini use and little mini, the other. persons and to walk around outside of you and trigger some stuff, right? They may trigger the sock thing.

So maybe it's the kid who rage quits. Let's just use the words from the email, right? The kid who rage quits is either reminding you of your partner socks that you can't fix or is reminding you of how you got those socks in your family originally. And when it's pretty deep like that, it's usually not really obvious, obvious, like, ooh, that's me, unless you're, you know, more aware, you can just have some really interesting internal reactions to that, right? So automatically, the quote problem child is doing certain behaviors that I promise is eliciting the doc hardware analogy. Okay. Did that make any sense?

Yeah, it does. No, I get it. I like this idea that every marriage is that um trying to think of how that is with kim and i it is you know what it is true it's totally true like i can't return i can't return socks to kim you know i don't mean literally although actually it's kind of literally true you know what she's literally not going to take any socks from me but no she really won't no i get it so so okay but in terms of this situation you've got the one kid who just is you know having trouble containing his anger or his competitiveness or whatever compared to the other boys um this reminds me of

my kids carter's very competitive in video games like if she's losing she gets really you know whipped up into a frenzy about it yeah nick could not be bothered he's great at games and he usually is winning maybe that's why she's all fired up but he just chill about it and kind of can laugh it off and it's no big deal. Their older sister, Taylor's a little bit of a mix of both, but I don't know, yeah, I guess the analogy is starting to work for me

because I can't apply the same or sock return to Nick and Carter at the same time just because Carter's the one having competitive issues. I have to treat her socks separately, right? Is that kind of the bottom line? There is no blanket plan for this. They don't all come out,

just because they all came out. out of the same flesh shoot doesn't mean they're all the same personality. Sorry for the vagina reference, but you know what I'm saying. See, flesh shoot. That's an analogy that's gone. All right. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

My family puts it this way. Oh, mom just has to make it worse or grosser or just one sentence too long. That's my analogy from. Yeah. No, you're right. I think, and what I'm getting at really with the understanding the sock and hardware store analogy is just this idea that you're getting a particular response, you are having a particular response to a particular child's response.

And when three out of the four prefer Crest, you're going to think Crest is the best way to do it. Now, what if it was three out of the four kids, rage quit and freaked out all the time? Would this be a different email? Probably. Sure. Right? Yeah, very different. Yeah.

And one makes life easy, oh, they're fine. And then the other response requires some parenting, requires some interaction, or at least you feel like it requires some. Yeah, right. Okay. Sure. So I would do a couple things. I'd have a little checklist, number one.

It would look like, huh, what is this about for me? Like, why does this bug me so much? Because you know what? No parent in the world wants to harm their kid or think something's bad for them. And then when a kid shows particular behaviors, it does get you thinking, maybe this is not good for them, right? Yeah. And maybe there's something I need to do here, et cetera. So it engages you in that need to, whatever. But check yourself just first. That should be number one. Okay, what is this about? What does this remind me of? So maybe someone at the department store would get really angry.

Maybe you don't like how you feel when you're really angry. Maybe you've had fun and games ruined by one of your siblings and your other kid in this story, right? Like find your place in this dynamic, and it can be anything. So here's how I would suggest you do it. You are quiet. You sit down. You think about the scenario. You pull it up.

And then you just watch what your brain shows you. it'll either literally show you or memories will pop up or a feeling or just something and we're very good at going like that was random no your brain is releasing something to to give you a hint so it could be a memory it could be some connection like oh oh I remember that cousin or that kid I used to play with who blah blah blah and I hated that okay great now we know your part right so you start with that and rather than just assume the kids got a problem you start with what is my problem with what seems to be the problem, right? So you check, check yourself first. That's item number one. Number two, ask yourself, okay, what are you so worried is going

to happen here? What is, what is the thing you're afraid of? Am I afraid this means my kids going to be an abuser? Like, what are you afraid of? And to some extent, it could be, yeah, yeah, no one's going to like them. Because 90% of parenting is watching a kid knowing this is going to be hard for you out in the real world yeah that's almost always you know so you can understand that and so some some piece of this is you know sort of checking with like what is it you're afraid will happen and what are you trying to you know what do you feel the need to do about it you need to shut it down do you need to whatever and then third thing is just Google a developmental milestone chart and realize for a 10-year-old with maybe

some of his natural proclivities, this is how he's processing a big range of emotions. He's just feeling more, right? We really like in family systems the people who feel less and feel small because it means I can get somewhere on time. It means I can get my checklist on it. I can go to my job and we can have a good time and no one ruins anything. That is, it's really motivating for the department store of your family to run smoothly is people don't have real big feelings.

So you might want to ask yourself, what are big feelings? What do they mean in this house? What does it mean in my wife's house? What does it mean in my house growing up? What did a big feelings, what happened to them? Right? And often you'll find they got shut down or someone was made the scapegrat, goat or that person's different or quote the problem child right so developmentally normal for

a kid to have feelings and sometimes it's normal for a kid to have really big feelings it's what what's abnormal is that nobody knows how to deal with it i mean common no one has well it's funny because given the topic and and and it's just kind of funny i just thought of it um back when i guess he would have been around 10 or 11 um i had a basically a game day with a with your oldest and he came out and hung out with us that day. So it was just me and him and Nick playing games, eating pizza, chilling, you know, just having like uncle, nephew business.

And it was great. And we played, what was it, NBA Jam, a new NBA, the newest NBA jam game that came out for the 360. It was like a more modern version of that game. And we were playing that game.

And in the middle of this, it's a very competitive game, head-to-head basketball, two-on-two basketball game. And, about halfway through it, I start to notice that Abe is like kind of turning red and breathing really hard and looking like he's about ready to pop because he was getting beat by Nick. And Nick's over there just chilling, you know, doing what he does and whatever. And I remember thinking, oh, shoot, this stimulation or this particular stimulus is probably a bad

idea at the moment. And that brings me to this. I know enough about Abe to know that now he's pretty chill about this stuff. He's not overly competitive. He's not, you know, turning red and about to pop when he's playing a game with one of his friends or playing Fortnite or something. So is some of this age? He says he's around 10.

Is it possible that this is just sort of like a stage thing? And whether it's games or something else, it's just, you know, it's not something to flip out about. It's just a, he's 10. And this is kind of what some 10-year-olds do. And this will pass. Yeah. Yeah.

And yet also, I mean, I don't know, when the last time you met a 40-year-old competitive person, they still exist. No, that's true. And I shouldn't, you know, and I haven't seen Ava in a long time. It's not that it goes away. It's that they learn how to manage the feeling. Right. So I think the temptation is to stop the stimulus that creates the big feeling. And then we can all just feel better, right?

But actually, maybe if we thought of parenting a little differently, like, it's to help them. tolerate the big feeling, know what to do with it, know how not to harm anyone else with those feelings, but they're perfectly safe to have, perfectly okay to have. So I'll tell you, the end Abe's story is not that he's not competitive anymore, is that he has really struggled with that, does not like how it makes him feel to get too competitive. And so he has just decided individual sports is the way he does that or he likes to compete with himself at the gym as a opposed to getting on a team and losing a game. Like, he's just moved his life to where he feels better about that.

I don't think I did the whole thing, right? He does have a lifetime ban from League of Legends. It's still in effect. Okay. Now, granted, when he moves out, he can break that ban because he'll have his own, make his own decisions. But at a certain age around, I want to say, was 12. he started playing League of Legends with all his buddies and it turned him to, I mean, a demon. So we got to a point, whatever the design of that game is, and you guys would know, I have no idea,

but the design of that game is like code to destroy my son's brain. It doesn't work for him. So that's where, on one hand, yeah, we're going to work on feeling your feelings and managing big feelings and what do we do this and lots of safety to talk about that and it's okay. but that was really detrimental to him. So when we finally gave him a lifetime ban, yeah, by the way, some point of correction, so the chat understands, because I saw some people make an assumption,

Wendy's saying that she banned him from League of Legends. He did not get a lifetime fan from League of Legends. All right. Is that even a thing? That is a thing. You can be banned for like toxic behavior and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Sorry, I'm so unfamiliar with that world.

But no, it's a parental lifetime ban. and what it happened in his response we had lots of talks about it is how much relief he felt because he just didn't know how to control that experience that feeling and it just turned him into a lying little wit and so he's and it's even now he's you know 17 years old and he'll just laugh about League of Legends and just be like you know I don't even know what it'll be like when I can see it again we're like you're not allowed to see it and he's like uh-huh because clearly he will at some point But I think he just learned, like, this isn't good for me. And I'm telling you right now, how many adults, listening to this right now, think what

they're doing every day is fine when it's maybe not actually good for them. So this is a normal part of life, right? Sometimes you know, and then other times you don't. Like, I have a client very suicidal at the moment. We're doing lots of things to make sure that she's okay. And the number one thing I had her do immediately was get off all social media. And within a week, she's like, I cannot believe the difference in my brain. I mean, that alone was better than inpatient treatment because what it did, for her particularly, was stopped the scrolling and stopped the comparing to everyone's life.

And even though she didn't think that was happening at all. And it's because our brains are stupid and funny, right? Anyway, and so you take this child, this is a great opportunity. First of all, that's why I want you to do all your own children. checking first. I have no problem with League of Legends. I had a problem. Am I a good mom moment, right? Like, I got to help this kid, right? So you can do that checking first. And then you can also say, is this just me not being cool about video games? Or is this just me not having, handling big emotions? Or is this harming my kid? There is a real question there. And that's what makes parenting

so hard. If it was just crack down or do whatever I felt like, I mean, there's a price to be paid for that kind of parenting. The harder parenting takes longer, which is checking your own garbage, you know, working as a team if you're partnered. And then what is best for this kid? And so sometimes it really is to have that boundary, like, all right, let's take a break from this. Or is there some other way that we can enjoy games and you don't have to feel all the things if you don't want to? You know, so it's just a lot more talking and not so much what I think video game playing as a family is, which is relaxing and escapism and, hey, we're just doing, like, it makes it something else. It's like if you're going to play card game with somebody, you don't know real well, and suddenly they're screaming and flipping the board over, you're like, yeah, we're not going to do that again.

Yeah. I had friends that we had neighbors that did this with Catan, settlers of Catan. which is the most chill game. You should never have to freak out playing Settlers of Catan. You just shouldn't. But this husband-wife team were so hardcore on each other and mad and upset. And at one point, one of them got up and threw their pieces everywhere. And I remember turning to Kim and going, we're never doing this again.

We now have a thing that we can never do with this group of people again. And I was in my 20s where I gave a lot more craps about things. like this. And I was just like, I'm never doing this again with these people. This is like never going to happen. Today, I'm not sure we'd ever start the game because I just have like an inkling that these are going to be those people, you know, but back then I was like, whatever, it's everybody will just try. But what a nightmare. Yeah. And that is probably what the emailer is also tuned into is nobody likes a sore loser, right? We have phrases in our lingo. Nobody likes a sore loser. Right. That's exactly what Abe is.

It's what this kid is, right? Yeah. They feel it so deeply and then they make, it comes out, right? Yeah. So sometimes it may be just a question of having some conversations with this kid offering some skills, offering ways to think about it, offering a break. There has been many, many times I have asked parents, you know, they're like, what do I do? And like, stop the privilege that is happening and have a calm, like,

reorientation and then go back to it, right? And what kids usually do is it's such a relief because they don't have the skills yet to handle the thing, right? And then you give them some skills, you walk through it, you know, you ask them how it feels in his body. Like, what is going on for you? Not in the moment. Remember my rule.

You don't have a conversation about sex in a bedroom. You do not have a conversation about how finances as you're paying bills. You have to have them at different times. Separate from the moment, yes, for sure. Yeah, so take this kid to get some yummy fries and ice cream or whatever you want to do and just say, hey, let's talk about how it feels when you're playing video games. Have you ever had anybody do that, though? Like, have you ever had a client go, yeah, we taught our kid about the birds and the bees

and the way we did it was we had them in the room while we were doing it? We made sure. Do you think that's ever happened? Do you think everyone thought that was a good idea? No, yes. And no, don't know. Don't ever do it. No.

Yeah. Not, yeah. I'm talking about between two adults. Right. Like you're having a conversation like, oh, we don't do it enough, but don't do it like while you're laying in bed together. Yeah. Don't do that. Oh my gosh.

Can you imagine? I would lose ice. Yes. No, no, no. And the thing about the parenting thing, too, and everybody knows this. And that's why birth order is interesting. Um, is because, you know, my kid who's terrible at competitive anything because he wants is mad made the, the other kids around him not want to participate with him, right?

And they start developing their own socks in the department store because of siblings. I think we haven't talked much about sibling, how siblings can damage one another. But I think that's every parent's fear, too. I mean, I remember mom and dad saying, like, well, I sure hope, you know, Tara, who was really hard for them didn't, you know, I still, mom will say, I still feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, there's probably a worry from this guy that the kid that has a hard time with competitive play will, quote unquote, infect, you know, some of that will rub off on the other ones, especially if they play a game against each other, as opposed to all playing Fortnite individually, but if they play a game against each other of something and angry kid, I just don't want to call him problem kid, but the angry kid's not a whole lot better. that, you know, he gets, becomes a sore loser about it,

that could rub off on the other one. Or a sore winner might even be worse, right? Oh, yeah. Sur winning the other one's face could turn the other ones into sore losers. Yeah, good point. Yeah. And so you're maybe acting out of that concern, which then means it's harder to be a little more clear-eyed, right?

Into helping this kid get what he needs. You just want him to stop harming your other kids or causing distress in the family or more stress, right? So, and I can say this because I have four children, you're neglecting one of them at all times, at least, right? And one is, one is screaming for more attention than the others for reasons or, you know, and so this is not easy. And it feels like, oh, one more thing to do when we're just trying to have fun.

But sorry, you signed up for it when you kept having babies. And it's tricky. It's really tricky. And I do really empathize. But I do think if you can give a little more individual attention. And I'm going to give you a little secret to do this that I think is really powerful. It works wonders with adults and really well with kids. If you can get yourself in the right mindset to do it.

And that is to help, like Brian, you were saying, angry kids know better. So the problem kid or the angry kid, as if it's a whole person. It's not, right? And that's why you hesitate because that's not what you mean. No, I just want some way of identifying the kid in just a few words so I could. So without labeling anybody, what you can do is help them not label themselves, right? Because I think that happens naturally, especially with lots of kids, as you kind of have, you're the helpful one and you're the stupid one and you're the angry one or, you know, whatever.

It's shortcut, I guess, for managing a crew. But, you know, is to talk this way. So, for example, you take the kid to dinner by himself, okay? Start there. And you say, you know, let's chat about something. So it seems like sometimes a part of you, a part of you gets really angry when you're playing video games. Sure.

So not you get really angry. A part of you is really angry. And then let's talk about that part of you. So what's it like, right? What do you experience when that's happening? Just walk me through it. And then he's going to talk about what it's like. You'd be surprised.

The 10 year old's smart enough and been. around long enough they're going to say they're going to they're going to educate you on how that feels if you don't know exactly they really will exactly yeah but if you are telling them they are angry or you're you know and this is really a subtle language difference i'm just saying you get really angry to a part of you seems really angry yeah and so what you're doing is just giving them a little space the other parts of them the part that knows and feels really bad that that happens is allowed to be there. Right. Yeah. And so there's lots of, and we all talk this way, right? Like, oh, a part of me wants to do this or a part of me just wishes I could blah, blah, blah, you know,

it's not 100%. It's just a part of you. And so anger is a really important part of us. It's a protector. It is power. It gets a lot of people to behave differently. Notice. It gets you a dinner in this case, right? Yeah. Like, it is powerful. And so you're basically, helping your kid talk through what, when this part's sort of run in the show, what it's like. But that part isn't always running the show. And so the more they can just sort of have a little space or separate, the easier it will be the next time they're playing is, okay, it seems like a part of you's getting really angry again. You know, take a breath, you know, whatever kinds of coachings or help you want to give them and skills around sort of managing when that part takes over. You're going to also show them it's not their whole self.

They are not bad. Anger is not bad. What happens is if we do this very quickly, we just go, like, shut it down and don't act to. And we use our anger to stop their anger. Right. And I'm speaking from experience. Yeah. I'm going to say, this is a direct thing you dealt with.

I forgot about the League of Legends thing. Oh, I'm not done. Yeah, you're not done yet. But like, isn't it? I know exactly how I'm screwing my kids up. You guys just get to sort of think about it every once in a while. I know exactly when I'm doing it. Isn't it funny how like, I know this is probably true of every family dynamic with multiple kids, but you think because genetically you're bringing in, you know, you're bringing together the same genetics and somehow the kids are all going to come out identical and behave the same.

And I'm sure that's true of some families. I mean, I know some people where all the kids seem like clones of each other. But it's mostly not true. and they're all so different like Elliot and you know Abe could not be more different those two kids

or Peter for that matter Peter's like a whole other stratosphere of different from those other kids same with my kids they're all so diverse and different and there's just no one size fits all it might be one size fits all

for certain activities you know they're all maybe they're all fine with video games and don't get overly competitive but boy with four of them you're really not your odds are against you for that and so none of this should be a surprise or, I don't know, it's a chance for you to really get into it with him and

understand where he's coming from and come out on the other side with just a better relationship with that kid, you know? Yeah. I had to do this. No. I mean, if this is the second kid or third kid or fourth kid, you have some idea that there's different stages, but like if it's your oldest, that can be particularly hard because you don't know everyone grows out of a lot of things or it morphs or changes.

I thought Abe would be, you know, a fiery hotball of fight every second of his life. And he really has learned some different skills and can handle things very differently. In fact, sometimes someone's, they said, what are you interested in doing? He's like, I'm thinking I might be a lawyer. And someone's like, how? You don't take anything seriously. I'm like, oh, you have tricked them. Because you do take things seriously.

But he's really worked to relax that part of him that finds winning a game is the most important. thing in that moment he's figured figured that out there's plenty of adults who have not figured that out right and so you're you're expecting a 10 year old to do something that who's the dude terrible coach that throws chairs and abusive my a night something night Bobby night Bobby night Bobby night that's what I'm I don't know I think it was Bill Belichick that he just throws deflated footballs that's right that's right he just throws the game so there is You know, lots of evidence that this is a lifelong journey and, you know, sort of having, building a foundation. I always tell people, listen, it's hard to hear because it's so exhausting, but parenting is a long game, a long, long game.

And you are creating the relationship with your 10-year-old now around this topic that is going to last for a long time. and you can always change it and do something differently, but you have a great opportunity to start to build some building blocks because there is something showing up for this kid right now. You know? You're right. By the way, Bobby Knight's still with us. Bobby Knight is mom's age.

And he's not throwing chairs anymore. He's throwing diapers now. Oh, yeah. Only when he's upset. It's fine. Yeah, it is gross. Well, there you go. I think that's a very helpful stuff.

I would love to hear back from this listener. We didn't get a name, but I would love to hear back on progress here. And I don't know. I think you can have some real positive stuff with this kid. You just got to do the things Wendy said. And then beware of scapegoating, right? Everyone should. You know, who's the kid that can carry the family's dysfunction is usually the kid who's saying it out loud.

Yeah. Right? Like, yeah, and responding and reacting and truth telling through behavior. And so I think everyone should just go read about scapegoating. That should just everyone's assignment today. If your goats are getting out. Don't do it. No.

And if you've been scapegoated, oof, you know. Yeah. Keep your goats. Keep your goats from escaping. That's right. No escaping. No landscaping. No manscaping.

Any of that. No zero escaping. None of it. Or even zero escaping, as I used to call it. None of that either. Okay. So I have two things to talk about. Can I bring them up?

Yeah, but of course. Is we end here? Yeah. Okay. Number one, Real Steps is live. I will send an email out, but you can go to realsteps. org right now and sign up for the March round that's coming up. It starts on March 6.

It's going to be so good. For some reason, the site says it's down. Oh, no, it's up now. Okay, we're good. Never mind. It is up. It was not. It is up.

I made Adam do it all late last night. So, yay for him. Anyway, it's up and ready to rumble. And it's going to be a blast. this room is going to be really fun so please go there and sign up and I will bug you in on this show until it starts and then I'll stop on you how come how come Alina has a brand new photo her drinking some kind of green smoothie drink and Wendy's still using her old photo where's your new photos I tried to switch it and I clearly didn't do what normal people do is like save it so I got to do that okay good luck to you on that but whatever okay don't critique me live no critiquing no critiquing no complaints too Admin at real steps.org.

You can reach me there, by the way. Okay, the second thing is really sad. Sorry to ruin the mood. But I have a favor to ask the community if people are willing. So we didn't talk much about it, but in January, when I came out to Salt Lake last minute, so what happened was a really good friend of mine from high school. We did reference that, but we've all been close and good friends for a long time. Anyway, so a good friend of mine from high school, her teenage son whose exact same age as my son, like months apart, was in a basketball game and did, went up to block a shot, just had a really weird injury where like his hip flexor ripped from his hip and just a bunch of really severe damage.

The x-rays, they said, look like like a little mini grenade had gone off. And so I just have lots of injuries that way. And anyway, they had him rest for a week and we're monitoring. Dad's a orthopedic surgeon. So he was, you know, being really careful on all the things. And the day after Christmas got up to go to a doctor's visit and threw a blood clot. And it stopped his heart and he died. Oh, geez.

And it was just so horrible and so tragic and so sad. And this kid was, you know, they're in a little town in Wyoming. And so it was a really big deal for the community. And anyway, everyone showed up to this funeral. And it was just a thousand people. And we were in this theater. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And my friend is just a rock.

And anyway, and so in part of trying to be there for her, when you, you know, when you grieve something like this, it's just like there's, it's unfathomable. Like, what do you even say and do? And we've talked about grief on the show before and just so hard you think you're going to say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing. And so my group of friends, we had a long discussion about how to support her and what to do. And so one of the things we're doing is every two weeks, one of us is assigned the week. And it's grieving with them and honoring him in some way and just making sure we still talk about him. his name's Max. And, you know, just sort of allowing that to always be okay that because we have five,

17-year-olds among us. So we all have kids who just keep going. And that kid has stopped any time. And it's heart-wrenching. So I thought everyone's kind of doing different things. He was a big, he was a fan of a certain team. So one friend got him a bunch of like jerseys with his name and his basketball on it and stuff, and that was one week.

And the other week, someone's sending her to, like, a spa. We were just trying to do nice things. So I was thinking, what could I do? And I thought about any frog pants people and how kind and nice you guys all are. And I thought, you know, one of the things I think, you know, this kid was such a good kid. Just like normal and sweet and nice. It's just so hard. And it's just some way of honoring him.

So they have actually started a scholarship in his name. I don't know if they've decided which, where exactly the money will go, but they're just, you know, collecting it in his honor. And so I thought what I could do is if, you know, if anyone's willing to donate a dollar or two, we could send the money, you know, I'm going to send it all at once as like a bulk thing and just say, you know, this is from the tadpool basically and explain who you guys are because I don't think she knows. And just, you know, in honor of Max and then, but really even more than that,

if money is not a thing you can share. And it doesn't, I don't want a lot. I just want a little, but I want from a lot of people. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. Small amounts from a large group of people. Small amounts would be lovely and just, you know, it'll go obviously to a good cause, but just what I want probably even more than that is just words. So what I was thinking is if people can donate a buck and then just in Venmo and I'll have it come to me and then I'll send it all to her at once when it's my turn my turn's the end of February the 26th um and send it in I don't know I'll print it out or make a little book or just something of just people sharing like that he's not forgotten um you can look him up his name's Max Swanson you can see his um his obituary online

is beautiful and amazing and um anyway And just, I don't know. I mean, this is hard for me to ask because I, it's very personal, obviously, but it also just, I just think, I don't know what else to do. And this community is always so good when people are, don't know what to do and need help. That's absolutely true. I would love to do that. Is there, so do you want to give out your Venmo name?

Yeah. So I'll do it. Yeah. So then I can just do it all at once. Sure. Yeah, I present whatever. And then people can just email me anything if you don't want to do it through VEMBO. You could just email it.

Actually, do it admin at Real Steps, actually. Okay. So admin at realsteps.org is the email address. And then I'll just collect all of that. And you don't obviously have to put your names or anything else, even if it's just a sentence. Maybe where you're from, the kids lived all over the country and he just had plans. to travel the world. I think it'd be sweet for him to just see that people all around the world are good and their family. Anyway, and so my Venmo is just at Wendy Dunford, W-E-N-D-I-D-U-N-F-R-R-D.

And there's a picture of me making a stupid face. Well, that's what we Johnson's do on our social accounts. Yeah. So, Wendy, don't forget the I. It's Wendy with an eye, you guys. Wendy with an I, Dunford, D-U-N-F-R-D-I. Yeah, Wendy with a Y-D-Ford is happy to get all the extra money. She has sometimes sent me things. Oh, really? Do you get stuff from the weird? It's happened before.

I get Scott John for stuff here and there too. So thanks mom and dad for naming us weird. I appreciate it. For our basic names. So at Wendy Dunford with an eye. And then you could just put any message there. And then I'll just keep track of all of that. And then I'll let you know at the end how it goes and that would be really sweet.

So if anyone's in the mood, feels like that's something they want to. Yeah. Especially if you've lost anyone, I think. think you kind of get it in a way that just you don't get it until you get it. I've had a couple people just reach out who have been there for friends who've lost children. And there's like a sub support group for the friends of friends, just trying to do the right thing by your friend because the world moves on and just really, really hard. Yeah, it's super hard. So thanks. Sorry to tell everyone out. No, no apologies necessary. I think I think this is a great way we can help.

So I can already see the chat room brewing about how they want to do it and where they're going to do it. That's good to see if anybody's listening at home and you want to contribute. Again, that is at Wendy Dunford with an eye for Wendy Wendy, Wendy Dunford on Venmo or email or directly if you want to do it a different way at admin at real steps.org. And let's do something nice for these people. They deserve it. That'd be sweet. Awesome. Well, I'm glad we're doing that.

And I'm also glad to have you back. We'll do this again next week. Oh, and Wendy's coming to Vegas. So that's fun. Yes. I need jobs. Tell me what I'm supposed to do. I got one.

I got one for you. So I was thinking, I was talking to Brian about it a little bit. And I think you and I maybe have talked about this. But we should, we should do like a little Lucy booth. Like another booth. 5% psychotherapy booth. Yeah,

yeah. I'll do it. Remember that? That was very fun. It was fun. I could also do a little like a fun group. I was thinking I'd make all the real steppers who were there. Yeah.

Join me for a little real step mind. Oh, they totally could. They know what I'm talking about. And there's a bunch. There'll be a bunch there. So absolutely. That'll be great. I mean, others can join too.

But, you know, I've got to see my people too. Sure, sure. We'll come up with some cool stuff. And I'm pulling you into the taskville competition as well. So. Great, because I'm really good at trivia if that's what it is. There's nothing to do with trivia, which is the best part. You ever done it?

Have you ever done an escape room is the question? Have you ever done that? Oh, I'm also. Yeah. All right. I'll do my best. It's going to be great. I can promise you this. Brian's designing this thing, and it's not like weird or hard. I mean, it's challenging, but it's not like, oh, we put you in a terrible position. It's not like that. And now you're a loser and no one moves anything to say.

Anyway, we'll get you more info on that because I got to find out when you're, I guess we've got to find out when you're getting into town. Do you know when you're getting on Monday or do you know? Monday, noonish. Noonish Monday? All right. figure this out and get it worked around. Oh, that's right. Yeah. But anyway, I'm very excited to see you because I don't get too very often. And then that will, that will soften the blow of having to deal with all our relatives in July when we have our family reunion. That'll be great. We'll take it easy, all our best and tell, remind Abe for us that it's better to have your

mom ban you from League than Riot banned you from League of Legends. Okay, because he'll never get back in that way. All right. We'll see you later. All right. Well done. Yes. You kind of. to need her there early for this, right? Or how does it work? I'd like, yeah, if I could get her there early for it, then that would be great. But totally understand, you know, we can figure out, see if we can make it work. I was hoping to do all of the, for the folks who have to do all the editing, hoping to do all that stuff for Sunday. But maybe there's a way around it. Maybe we can figure something out.

Put that Kevin KT data to work, man. Oh, by the way, that would be the perfect. So last year's project, which kind of had some trouble with. audio. I know you guys are accounting for all that this year, but if you had a situation where you're like, crap, we need to very quickly get audio that was distant and make it better. That Adobe thing is actually good for that. Adobe thing. Yeah, that's actually legit, good for that sort of stuff. That's not bad. Yeah, it's actually a really good way to do. Something to think about. All right. That's the end of this here show that we did here. And I really enjoyed it today.

But guess what? There's more content coming. Brian, tell me about Coverville today. What's going on? Yeah, Coverville today. not going to be today. Oh, shit. It's right. No, no, that's right. I was going to have to announce this anyway. Got a client meeting this afternoon that is going to take most of the afternoon.

However, I'm putting stuff together for a Barrett Strong tribute episode. A lot of the old Temptation songs, like the biggest songs by the temptations, the song Money, that's what I want, is, you know, Barrett Strong. So many of those old Motown songs are Barrett Strong. And so we're going to have a tribute episode. for him because he just passed away in the last week so far of the five episodes of or four episodes of coverville this year three of them are tribute episodes to people we've already lost in the first part of this year it's like oh no slow down 2023 sure uh anyway so that'll be coming up just keep an eye on my Twitter I'll announce it and uh if you're subscribed to coverville

you'll just get it automatically as to when it happens nice uh obviously look forward to that skim today sometime I don't know when but Kim and I'll be sitting down for a skim episode episode today. Depends on a couple of things with her schedule, but we should have an episode today. Core tonight, for sure, at 5 p.m. Lots to talk about there. If you want to hear the sad tale of somebody who's bought Hitman 3, A.K.A. Hitman World of Assassination three different times. Well, tune in and find out why I did that. I got a story around that. That game's awesome. Oh, my gosh. It's okay. Core. Oh, I mentioned Core. FilmSack this weekend. Is it Rambo we're doing? First Blood, Part 2, Rambo.

Ooh, I'm looking forward to this. So finally getting another Rambo in and helping stack the deck for Sylvester Stallone being our most sacked actor. That's right. Watching it tonight, but I think I've already figured out what my intro is going to be based around. Oh, amazing. All right. Very good. You'll do it shirtless or the red bandana while you write it?

I kind of always do. You just can't see it because we don't stream, we don't live record film sax. That's a good point. Yeah. Good point. Also, a TMS couch party for patrons this Friday. That's tomorrow at 3 p.m. I think we're doing Captain Marvel. Are we starting Captain Marvel? Yeah, sounds good. How long is that? It's probably... I've got a member game tomorrow night, but... We could either start early or we could do half. Or split it in half. Yeah, we might do that.

I could do half. Half's fine. Let's do that. We'll do half and then take a week-long intermission. Yeah, there we go. Let's all go to the lobby for seven days. Harder, faster, bigger, better, baby. That's what I say. 24 minutes, so two hours, four minutes. So, yeah, I think we might split that one. We'll split it in half. Yep, we'll find the hour mark and we'll call it good.

So that is, for you patrons of the show, that's this Friday. That's tomorrow, 3 p.m. mountain time. If you want to be there for that, 2 p.m. Pacific and, of course, 5 p.m. Eastern. And if you're central, you know what time it is. All right. Patreon.com.com is how you can be part of that and many other things, including avoiding commercials until the end of time. It's a great way to never have an ad.

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and be a part of the larger community for as low as a dollar a month because we're stupid. All right. Moving on, let's do a song. and that song you have. So tell me about song. Look at this.

This is our second visit up to Edmonton, Canada. This time for Derek, who writes, Hey, Strathcone and Belgravia, those are neighborhoods in Edmonton. I'd like to request a song for my 38th year of being free from the womb. Came out, or his request was for February 1st. So yesterday, not too bad.

This year's been hell from my mental health. And it's a damn good thing I have you two and everyone on TMS to listen to. you all make such a huge difference I hope you realize what amazing things you do for my request this year I'd like to have some sort of K-pop I've really gotten into it this year

and thankfully with some suggestions from listening to Tom Merritt I think his recent foray to the One Direction Kid former One Direction Kids concert is his first non-K-pop concert in like five or six years

Yeah they have been nothing but K-pop 100% of the time over there at their house old Yeah, Harry Styles yeah exactly Yeah. I've been expanding my horizons. I'm not sure what kind of covers are out there, but I know you can find something awesome. Once again, thank you so much for the show and everything that you do, Derek and Edmonton, Canada. Let's party. Happy birthday. Excellent. So this is tricky, right? Because the way to find it, you can't really just search K-pop covers. You find a lot of K-pop artists. So you kind of have to start with a, a popular K-pop band and then see what covers

they might have done, which is what I did. I did search through things like Black Pink and BTS and all sorts of things like that. Ended up with Girls' Generation. This is a song they recorded back in 2012

and it's called Dancing Queen so you might immediately assume, oh, it's a cover of the song by Abba. Right, sure, easy. No, it's not. It's a cover of the song Mercy by Duffy. Wow. They just happen to change the lyric and they're using Dancing Queen.

This is great. It is so goofy fun. K-pop is always a fun little thing to 4-A-N-2. Here is Girls' Generation and their cover of Dancing Queen. Girls' Generation, let's dance. Hit the beat and take it to the fast line. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah On When When When

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that Rhythm in the mong You know Oh Yeah Yeah You're my dancing queen Who

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You're my hero You're my hero You're my hero Dancing, dancing, You know your faredness Dancing, oh, my name is your beauty,

that's nice Oh, I'm sure, dancing, yeah, and the rhythm on the bongue and the bongue

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm, dancing, dancing, you're,

that's, Every way of a song-shy You're a piety Meeky-ozy Meeky That's sexy I'm just like I'm just like

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Dancing party All All together Yeah, ha, ha, ponty. Charle-bo-bo-de-de-dain dancing potty. E-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e. This show is part of the FrogPants Network. Frog Pants Network.

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