The Morning Stream - TMS 2422: A Cup of Coughy

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Show Me Your Virginia Johnson. The Naked Gak. Fun-Sized Clare. We named the Scott Indiana. Plop Salad, it's like dump cake, only healthier. Nothing Two Nuts is my favorite rapper. Bunghole Car, Five S...tars. The Best Morning Show In The History Of The Universe! Grandma's Algorithmic Fingerprint Extractor. This Is Your Time Peepoo, Enjoy!! Length Is Not As Important As Clarity. 30 Seconds of Jibber Jabber. Forcing the Musk on Us. Refusing to Flip the Tortoise with Tom Merritt. The Woman Who Recommentaled and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, show me your Virginia Johnson. The Naked Gack. Fun size, Claire. We named the Scott, Indiana. Plop salad. It's like dump cake, only healthier. Nothing two nuts is my favorite rapper. Bunghole car, five stars. The best morning show in the history of the universe.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Grandmah's algorithmic fingerprint extractor. This is your time, Pee-Poo. Enjoy. Length is not as important as clarity. 30 seconds of jibber-jabber. Forcing the musk on us. Refusing to flip the torrent. artist with Tom Merritt, the woman who recommended and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Clowns, Clowns, and more clowns. I think they're funny. They're crazy, but they're kind of neat. They seem so free. I think I'd like to try it sometime. All those people are right. Clowns are funny, crazy, neat, and free to do all kinds of things we might not ordinarily do. Now there's a good boy. The Morning Stream, Monkey Wattabee.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, February 15th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Nivitt. Hi, Brian. Hello. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Hey, you know, we didn't even talk about Valentine's Day yesterday. Did you and Kim do anything? like did you go out to dinner or anything or we did we went to dinner but nothing fancy just a place where we knew it wasn't going to be too crowded and uh that's where i chipped more of my tooth off which was great and that was fantastic happy valentine's day uh but nothing too nuts like she's way more into the lead-up and the 14 days of of the month where she gives me a little thing every day did she do the sticky notes still like uh hide them all over the place yeah just one right here i thought i had it right here anyways There are all these cute little notes and, you know, a bag of sugar-free something or other. Like these right here. Oh, no. Those are gone too. Cute.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Must have eaten them all. Anyway, she got these sugar-free monk fruit sweetened little candy things. And she did that for a couple days. She got me. Oh, she did get me these. This bag, I'm such a sucker for these. And they always jack up my guts, but I don't care. These Snyders.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Oh, the pretzels. Yeah. And they're the ones. They're the, what do you call it? Wild buffalo wing. Look at that. They're so good, Brian. I have to seriously, like, be, you know, you're always talking about your little bowl of hot balls.
Starting point is 00:02:41 What's it called? My atomic fireball bowl. Yeah, and you're always like, I just have it there and I have the one and then I'm good. And I need to remember, I just need to have the little bowl full and not eat half the bag. So I'm trying. It's a big, yeah, that's the, well, see, that's a different thing. So this bowl is here all the time. And maybe if at most one a day, there'll be days that go by that I don't have one of these.
Starting point is 00:03:04 But it's like, you know, oral fixation needs something to chew on. And I could go upstairs and I could get like a one of those little string cheeses or something like that. But it's like, no, these are, you know, lower calorie. They're back in the day they were at one point when I was doing Weight Watchers, whatever. Right. And they're there. I can do those. But yeah, if I do snacks, like if it's like if I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:03:28 um those those awesome indian snacks for example that we got from uh natalie listener natalie then i uh bring those down in a little bowl actually those you have to do with a little spoon too yeah they're like little tiny it's almost like um i don't know it's like cereal or something it's like a yeah exactly not the not what you normally think of as a snack but that stuff is really good oh my god oh so good and those like when i do the the bag of salad those if the if the salad does not include a little bag of croutons in the bag of salad then i totally throw those on there and they're so good. Perfect. That was awesome. Thank you again for sending
Starting point is 00:04:01 us those. They are so good. So, Brian, I got a little something today. I cannot wait to share. I've been fiddling with it last night and I did a little tease with the chat earlier in the chat room. And some of them were fooled, which was the goal. Yeah. Basically, I started dabbling around with some of the latest innovations in
Starting point is 00:04:20 audio AI sound generation. And I walked away a little bit freaked out by what I could do. So I'll start with where I started. This is before I did anything with our voices, all right? Okay. I just wanted this thing to generate a random male voice. And I wanted to get a lift review for Brian Ibbett's lift.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Okay. Okay. So this is what that is. I'll play that to kick us off here. Brian Ibit is the worst lift driver I have ever had the displeasure of using in my life. His car smelled like a bunghole, and he drove. like a maniac. Five stars would totally use again. See, that's crazy. Isn't that great? Both of those things totally true. Bunghole, thanks to passengers. But that guy's got a real
Starting point is 00:05:11 natural deal going, right? Yeah, it's like it does not sound like a robot. Not at all. And here he is, again, saying another thing. I was wondering if you had a donkey I could take outside and beat with a bat and then eat its body and wonderment. Yeah, so there's the thing. He's got a little bit of something going on there. We got a TMS intro from a whole other guy. You're listening to the morning stream, the best morning show in the history of the universe.
Starting point is 00:05:36 This is your time, Pee-Poo. Enjoy. See? Peepoo, even. That's really good. That one, it does sound really natural. And I'm trying to figure out who that sounds like. There's some celebrity that that sounds like. I can't place it. I'm going to play a little bit more. You're listening to the morning stream. Anyone know? Anyone go
Starting point is 00:05:51 no from that? Hmm. Sounds like Patton Oswald. No, I don't think that's it. No. No, somebody else. I agree. It's familiar.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I think his name and the thing was like Antonio or something, if it's not a real person. All right. Then I got a little weird. Well, there is this one. This is film sack. Have you even heard of this shit? That's another fun one. And again, these are anything I want to type, I can just type.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And now I get into like, oh, I can train this to do voices based on people I know or myself. So I scanned in 30 seconds as all, nothing major. 30 seconds of me talking on a TMS show. They say on the thing, length is not as important as clarity. So as long as you have like a nice, clear version of what you're trying to say. Yeah. And you give them, you know, 30 seconds of that. Up to 10 megabytes is how big you can send.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It will take that and very quickly train on it and it will poop something back. So here's, I'll give you an example. of me. Let's see. Where is it? Where did I do it? Okay. Here we go. Enjoy this one. Hi, this is Brian Ibit and I'm pretty sure that Randy Jordan eats his own poo at night. Okay, so that's me saying a thing that sounds like I'm saying it as you, but now here's you. Hi, this is Brian Ibit and I'm pretty sure that Randy Jordan eats his own poo at night. So that's a little weird, right? It's a little weird. So bizarre, yeah. I actually hear me more. So in mine, hi, this is Brian i'm pretty sure that randy when i when i hear yeah that i hear i think that sounds just like me to me
Starting point is 00:07:30 but in your case i think your sounds just a little off little bassy or something yeah there's something something oh and you should know where i got yours i got yours from the most recent um i took 30 seconds out of the most recent coverville episode i figured yeah because i don't have background music when when i do that so yeah and you're super chill in it you're like uh yeah you know the brian the bryan bit of the spin in the discs yeah i mean we need we need more like excited brian like up you know to really get a true how i sound on this show it can't be all right well that was uh what you just heard was uh yeah ray lamontaine doing a cover of bob dillins blowing in the wind yeah it's got to be something here you are again let's
Starting point is 00:08:14 see if i got it any better on this one today on coverville we discuss whether or not it's okay to fart on your mother-in-law's face in mixed company that's coming up right now on this episode of Coverville. Yeah. It's a little, it's a little, uh, it's a little, uh, it's a little holeshauer. Like it's a little high. Yeah. It's a little higher and a little, and especially fart on your, like it's really specific.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. By the way, you could, you know, you could try and convince me all day long that that's my voice and I'd say, no, it's not. But you'd have no problem convincing me that you wrote that. Oh, yeah. No, of course. All these, all these texts are clearly from me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:51 None of these are made up. So, okay, so I'm going to do you, in real time right now, I'm going to have you ask the question, is this that AI voice duplication thing, is the sentence. And here you are in one version. So this is what's crazy about this. So here you are. And this is happening in real time. I didn't pre-do these.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Here it is. Is this that AI voice duplication thing? Okay. That's supposed to be you. But that one's a little higher than the other one even. Yep. So I'm going to hit it again. Is this that AI voice duplication thing?
Starting point is 00:09:20 So it does it, if I, I can generate 100 times and it will always do a different, a different, slightly different. Oh, that's bizarre. Isn't that weird? That's really weird. Yeah, very weird. So anyway, a couple other examples. Check this out. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:09:36 I can find it. Oh, here's my sister, Wendy. You may remember this story, you guys. I'm not sure you remember it, but this is not how she remembers it. Hi, I'm Wendy Dunford, and I loved it when my brother chased me around with what I thought was a hot soldering iron. turned out it wasn't but what a great time that was now yeah all that what's amazing about that yeah is the little inflection turned out it wasn't like that turned out it wasn't but that you know you think that that's how it would go did you have you sent that to her i did and it freaked her out
Starting point is 00:10:08 she didn't like it i'm sure yeah not a fan she thought that was weird uh here's brian's actual text to me yesterday when he said how crazy this was so it generated those from you giving it text to say crazy all right so that's that l-o-l i'm seriously laughing out loud i can't even you were very mellow in that one uh randy uh i fooled randy this morning because he thought i thought i was playing audio on our little group chat that was like 10 years ago and i said no this is a i generated here's what randy said hi this is randy jordan i like to
Starting point is 00:10:43 eat babies not my babies mind you but other people's babies those are the tastiest of all cooked babies. So he he got fooled. We fooled Randy with his own voice. It was weird. I couldn't tell by his response because it's a very randy response. Wow, that must be at least 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, no, I think he thought it was real. He may deny it later. I don't know. He may deny it. I'm not sure. But could you you can do this on the fly because I heard you doing that pre show with Kim's voice. Can you do one that just says, good morning, morning, morning, stream. Good morning, morning, stream.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And I'll put double exclamation points. So here's what Randy says when I do that. Let's hope this works. Here we go. Good morning, morning, stream. He's not exciting enough. Let's try this one. Good morning, morning, morning stream.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm fine. Good morning. Well, that wasn't bad. Let's try this one. Good morning, morning stream. What? I'm thrilled, dude. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This thing is nutty. And you can change the, it's called stability. but basically create variables. Did you at one point use one of his, like, Texan film sack intros for trading it? Like, I got three simple rules for how you can, good morning, morning, stream. I think I used his, I used a chunk of audio from his standalone host show this month. Oh, sure. That's a good one, too.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, let's try this again. Good morning, morning stream. It's funny how you get a different one every time. Yeah, it's really, really, really weird. and you can adjust that so you can be very straight with it like good morning morning stream and then all the way to the extreme of him like improvving basically as you do it so here is another what's what's the app by the way people are sorry i don't know why i didn't tell everybody so this is a company called 11 labs they're at 11labs.io and this is
Starting point is 00:12:38 their whole thing of all the of all of the i've been just messing around with like all the different kind of AI approaches in audio in particular they're the most realistic I haven't seen anybody do it like this. It's like insane. Pretty dang. And it's fast. The other thing, you're not spending a ton of time, like, you know, having it try to learn this stuff. Like, here's a Tom one.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Technology is so crazy right now. Did you know that most of us are robots and we don't even know it yet? How about this? I once ate a whole turkey all by myself. Insane, right? Wrong. I can eat five turkeys. Now, the reason Tom sounds so excited is because I took it from his intro from DTNS, which is always high and excited.
Starting point is 00:13:16 yeah yeah it's always this week on d tns we're beep a beep right it's not the same as his that sounds so much like him like when he comes on here you know and he starts starts up high with his uh many mellows out but it's so crazy all right here's here's my favorite kim hates it here it is hi this is kim johnson and i'm having an affair with nathan phillian true story i have seen him nude many times yeah she loves nathan phillian yeah so there's nothing i can do about it he's just too good looking charming you know this this feels just like it's so so dangerous this technology it's so It feels absolutely super dangerous. Like, like, you can fool people. Like, in particular, I think my stuff. Today on Coverville, we discuss whether or not it's okay to fart on your mother-in-law's face and mixed company. That's me. That's me. That is, that is, out of all of the ones you've played, the one for you is the closest.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah. Somebody could really screw with me. And it wouldn't take any work to train the thing to use anybody's voice. I could go find a big long interview with, I don't know, Morgan Freeman and then just completely frame the guy to sound like a psycho on a radio show. Like, I know that there are markers for this and it's, you know, the real thing to sort of future-proof ourselves against the level of deep fake that is coming and it's coming. It's already here in a lot of ways is for us to just be on automatic skeptic mode from now on. Like just beyond, you know, trust the. sources you trust and don't trust anything else unless you know you know it is an unexpected benefit
Starting point is 00:14:54 of this just puts everybody on like a you know i'll believe it i'll believe it when i see your actual mouth moving yeah i hear you saying those words coming out of your mouth yeah it's crazy like just for funsies because we're here um i'm gonna have your tadpooly feud text read by a uh by some lady Let's see. Let's just do this Rachel person. I haven't heard this before. Do you want to use it just when it's time to do Babel or Ale? Do Ted Pooley Feud? Yeah, we could do that.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'll hold it here. Yeah, we'll save it. Okay. That's what we'll do. That's a great idea. I like that idea. Anyway, there you go. I dabbled.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I had fun. Part of it is I could see one benefit here. If you're a book author and you want to do an audio book of your own book, you're done. You just put this in there. literally, if you don't have a bunch of errors or grammatically incorrect stuff in there, it will do it and it will do
Starting point is 00:15:51 it with inflection, with all the stuff you want to have it do, and you can do a 10,000 word thing and have it read without having to sit in a thing, do, come back for takes because you messed it up and all that. Like some of that stuff, I see
Starting point is 00:16:07 it and go, oh, there are, there are applications here that are like really practical that might seem scary at first for people who have job, whose job it is to narrate a book. But since so many authors narrate their own books, I don't know, man. Seems like a great way to get it done. The timing on this is great because two weeks ago, three weeks ago, Tina had dinner with a coverville listener who I've known for a long time, a guy named Jacob, who's written several books, or two books and
Starting point is 00:16:40 then a bunch of short stories and um and has asked me to do the audio book for one of his for one of his books um there's even a character in his follow-up novel that's based on me called the curator right music a music curator but it's a um it's one that that you know i'm excited to get started on and and i've been you know championed a bit to uh to get to it and i'm thinking god could i just plug the book into this app and Now, here's the thing it won't do. And there's so, I mean, there's one of millions of things this thing won't do is, like, different character voices. So one of the things that I talked to him about is, is what he wants for, you know, when it's this character talking or this other character talking, I'm certainly not going to go, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And then Melissa said, hi, I'm Melissa, and I'm going to go to the restaurant now and order me some sushi. Yeah. What I'm going to do like a slightly higher voice. Yeah, this would do it. You just have to do it separate, right? You'd have to... Melissa walked into the room. Hi, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Let's go get some sushi, she said. Right. Whatever. Yeah. You can do it on a chapter by chapter basis, basically. So you do like... I could. And then do some sort of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You just mark it and say, okay, well, this bit, I want it to go higher. Like, you can get in there and really get granular with it, which I'm sure a lot of people will. Somebody in the chat just said to, there's no way the... Oh, who is it? Not Merrick says there's no way that these deep fakes are being created with that. some kind of algorithmic fingerprint that can be extracted 100% that's true the problem is that you don't have people regular people your grandma on facebook doesn't have the algorithmic fingerprint extractor right the little tool that that helps uh spot the serial number on the snake scale
Starting point is 00:18:27 to identify that it's a replica exactly but i from deep cut right there by the way yeah a very deep cut my big takeaway from all of this is that i'm the easiest to fake and i don't like that feeling somebody could really screw me today on coverville yeah i'm curious if i record my voice from here um because you're you're basically well i don't know i take that back because you're getting it from coverville you're not getting it from a recording from tms where you're getting my voice over discord no i don't know it's weird and i got mine from tms just during um post show where we had no music going yeah and it was only like 25 30 seconds of my voice as all It doesn't take much.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Jesus. So it's really crazy. It can do accents as well. There's different modules and stuff. And there's different, like, I think for five bucks a month, you get a pretty good little package to be able to just kind of generate stuff here and there for, like, let's say you're doing videos or you have an intro for a radio stinger. There's cool stuff you can do with it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But there's some for, I don't know, $300 a month. They'll get you the one that'll let you do books, basically. Anyway, it's interesting. I just wanted to share it because. I can't wait to see how. You know, we can combine this with chat GPT and have, like, uh, oh, yeah. Conversation with Brian that never, ever really happened. Yeah, and it would happen in real time, you know, with the one part, so here's the one thing
Starting point is 00:19:54 that to remember, live stuff, we're nowhere near ready for that. And we're also not ready for, uh, live stuff where the robots are riffing in a way that humans would undetectably. Right. So you and I have. a conversation on a live thing like we're doing right now and most of the podcasts on the network do
Starting point is 00:20:14 that's not even like it's not even in the radar yeah there's not not likely to see that get replaced anytime soon no but it's more like a short video of Biden going I'm going to hit this button to blow up the world you know I might have more classified
Starting point is 00:20:31 documents in my swimming pool come on man right right and it'll be believable but it'll be it'll be in post right No one's doing that stuff live. So I don't know. I think it's super interesting and scary and fascinating and useful and not. Like it's a lot of stuff in my head about it, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Not quite sure how to reconcile it yet, but it's all happening very fast. Yeah, I heard about Andrew Main. He's, I guess that is what he's mostly focused on these days, is something akin to this. It would be fun to talk to him a bit. Maybe I'll get him on here. He'd love to do that, I'll bet. will it be the real and
Starting point is 00:21:09 remain or a voice made by a cool talk like we'll never know from now on oh my god you'll never gonna know all right well let's do done away he's real i didn't train his voice i meant to but i didn't get time you move in this thing to the show end right uh oh yeah oh you know what what time is uh yeah you know what we'll save bag of salad for later because i still want to ask we got a lot of babel reality get too we got a lot of feud yeah yeah lots of feud we will definitely play that
Starting point is 00:21:36 that. Okay. Let me pull this up here. Let's get done away in it to win it. I mean, he may not win. I don't know. I don't want to assume. I might win. Yeah. It could be me. Oh, and Discord people. I just want the listener to win. That's all I care about. Same here. Discord people, here's what you need to do. You need to get into Discord if you're not already and send me a little private ping of some sort. Anything at all. It's a little DM if you are interested in being pulled into today's call. Okay, so get in there, get that done. Here we go. Hey, look there. It's our friend Brian Dunaway. Hello, Brian Dunaway. Oh, hi. Oh, hi. Oh, hi.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Is this really Brian Dunaway? Mm. Well, he wasn't the leader. Is this really Brian Dunaway? Hello. Oh, hi. Push the button. You could fool us.
Starting point is 00:22:29 We don't know. We have no idea. You can just say, oh, there's a lot of lag today. I don't know why. Anyway, continue with your game. right flash gordon flash gordon exactly uh it's good to have you here we're going to explain how this works in a second but first we have to add uh a listener and i'm going to take number three today and looks like number three is going to be oh it's captain kipper goodness gracious hold on
Starting point is 00:22:52 oh god i've been around forever been in here a lot uh i don't know i can't remember if he's been on this segment before him but we're about to i don't know if he has yeah about to find out uh we're ringing him he's ringing i see the rings of ringage and he will be here shortly. His avatar is wearing a patch. He's not answering. It's taking a while. And we got nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Why don't you just wait longer? Yeah. Well, Captain Kippert, you had, that ain't working. We're not doing it. All right. Next up is, oh, damn it. Guess who we have next.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Guess who it is? I don't have to guess. I'm just going to tell you. A small, a small, fiery person from Ireland is here with us today. It's going to be clear to do, everybody. Say small, I knew each angle here. I don't know that is she, I mean, you were there. Is she a little, is she tiny?
Starting point is 00:23:49 She's, you know, she's a diminutive. She's a pocket size. Yeah, all right. She's, hello? Hello? Around Halloween, she's considered to be fun size. Oh, okay, great. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Those are cheaper and you get more, get more kids. care of. Hi, Claire. How are you? Turn off our things. You didn't read the message, did you? No, what did you say? Hold on. You said, don't pull me in. I'm in the shower. Yeah, but here's the problem. If you don't
Starting point is 00:24:20 tell, if you don't send me a message, you don't get pulled in, but instead you sent one. That's okay. I turned it off. I might not. That's hilarious. All right. Yeah, here's a lesson for everybody. I don't actually read the things you send i just pull you in based on your little i avatar so yeah you just get a little icon in the top corner that just shows that they've said something yeah it's like being a
Starting point is 00:24:44 it's like being the fourth caller and saying don't don't take my call i'm the fourth caller don't take it well i thought i would be like the second you know i would be like the second caller well you're as usually your audio quality is amazing i hear all sorts of sound back there what is that yeah could you turn off whatever you've got going on the background yeah what is that is that just us Oh, maybe it was, yeah, shit, sorry. I had the stream on my phone. Oh, the stream is. Are you watching another podcast?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Oh, I hear me, yeah. Yeah, listen to you. That's awful quick. Oh, it's probably just your speakerphone. You're probably in the bathroom, your speakerphone in it, you know? Yeah, that should be better. Yeah, much better. Now we have, now we have Claire in her peer form.
Starting point is 00:25:29 All right, Brian, I'm going to read these rules in the voice of this lady. All right. So, Rachel. I was going to read these. Let's see what she has to say about today's Babel Royale. Here we go. Generating, generating. Takes a second.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Oh, no. It's time to play the Tad Pooley feud. I've surveyed the Tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Caller, your job is more important than ever, because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you will get a problem.
Starting point is 00:26:04 package that includes let's give you your topic that's terrifying yeah it is terrifying it's a little weird all right well then what what will we win could we win yeah well what what uh claire
Starting point is 00:26:20 could win and then give to somebody randomly in the tadpool is a copy of the Ascent and Ghostrunner on Steam oh my god the scent is good that's a real game yeah both of them are yeah big thanks to Tim Moore
Starting point is 00:26:34 for sending those in. The Ascent and Ghostrun are both cyberpunkky games. Oh, cool. Yeah, you even did a theme today. This is great. I love it. Nice. Unintentionally.
Starting point is 00:26:44 All right, let's give you guys your topic. If you guys are ready, this is a weird one. However, everybody seemed to get into it because, again, only one person said pass. So. I hope this one person is always the same one person. I'll bet they are. I'll bet they're like, I just wanted to be first to do the survey for Ted Pooley Few. I'm not going to actually answer any questions.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Fast, pass, pass, ass. Fair enough. All right, get ready. Put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer to this. Okay. Name a U.S. state that Scott should replace his first. Ryan. She just said U.S. state, so all I got to do is say Utah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 All right. Show me Utah. Number three. I'll repeat the question for Scott. Yeah, please. Name a U.S. state that Scott should replace his first. name with for a week oh oh geez utah johnson
Starting point is 00:27:38 Utah Johnson it's a very good that is a very good guess and 39 people said it but there are two answers come on Utah um I like the sound of Alabama Johnson for some Alabama Johnson show me Alabama
Starting point is 00:27:53 Johnson Boom ow oh yeah really surprisingly that was number 11 and uh one person even one so far as to say, Alabama Johnson, riverboat gambler. I love it, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I freaking love that. Which is accurate. All right, so let me reset your buzzer. There we go. Whoops. Oh, shoot. Hold on a second. You're all good.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I wish that question had to been, name a U.S. state. And then at the end of it was like, this not Utah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. So, buzz in for me, Brian. I'll say let me All right, good Okay
Starting point is 00:28:37 We're back in control here Okay, Brian and Claire You've got control of the board Lots of answers Team Claire away That's right It's kind of How right
Starting point is 00:28:49 Claire how comfortable are you with the U.S. States Or do I need to guess them I am fairly comfortable With U.S. States Okay Good Uh, ones that will replace Scott's name, um, a bit more... It's trickier, right?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Mm, questionable, right. Yeah, I wonder how many, uh, counties of Ireland, you can name Brian Dunaway. Yeah. Yeah, Brian Dunaway. None. Um, nailed it. Galloway. That's it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I'm going to. Oh, my God. It's Galway, Brian. Galway, Galway. I've heard you, I've heard you, I've heard you say it before. It was a lot of county court. I'll call it that way every time. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That's not the game. Nope. All right. Maybe it should be next time. All right. Name a state, the U.S. state. That's got you with places for a week. I wanted to be Florida Johnson because that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yes. Someone totally is a little redundant. Yeah. Exactly. So what do you think, Claire? Is Florida Johnson a good one? Yes. I think Florida Johnson
Starting point is 00:30:00 definitely. All right. Show me. Well, maybe don't show me. Florida man. Describe to me in great detail, Florida Johnson. Number one answer on the board. And we said it wrong is actually Flo Rider Johnson. Oh, Flo Rider.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Oh, of course. Flo Rida Johnson. That right. I hear you go, low, low, low, low. Now, I feel like they would give Ibit some love. So what do you what do you think Colorado Johnson? What do you think, Claire? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I mean, it's not funny to say it, but it would sign nice. It's less fun to say, but it would be, that seems reasonable. Someone would have done that in numbers. Right. Yeah. All right. What do you think, though, Claire? Does that go for you?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Oh, sure. We may as well get off the board, and if not, we can come back to him. Brian's a very, he's a very attentive lover. He wants to make sure everything is good. all right johnson utah johnson would know yeah that's right show me colorado johnson no surprised by that yeah only two people like colorado they they feel like uh colorado squarely begins to be number 40 in the list and i will say that and i didn't figure out which one's missing but 49 of the u.s. states were answered in this in this quiz but of course i only took the top ten
Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, my gosh, really? That's a lot. Wait, so which one wasn't mentioned, I wonder? I don't know. I need to go through the list and see, like, which one's missing. Hawaii Johnson or something. I'm going to go with Indiana is fun to say. Indiana Johnson.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Sure, sure. We made the squad Indiana. Yeah, see? Got a nice Indiana Jones ring to it. Let's do it. That's right. All right. Show me Indiana Johnson.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. Number five. Nice. Nice. It puts me a point ahead. Already in the lead just with that one. All right. nice
Starting point is 00:31:58 I like Big butts and I can not fly Don't leave that hanging out there like your big butt Yeah Carolina Johnson's pretty good
Starting point is 00:32:11 But we'd need A south or north Wouldn't we probably Yeah Are any of these abbreviated To combine the two Yeah I guess you'd have to tell us And I don't know if you want to tell us
Starting point is 00:32:20 Are there any abbreviations Brian to this? I will say that Among the top 10, there are no consolidations. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Bye, I just ruled out like four states, didn't I? I guess you did.
Starting point is 00:32:41 There's a couple like that. All right, let's do. Somebody said Jersey Johnson, New Jersey Johnson or Jersey. Johnson? Yeah, sure. Let's do that. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Show me New Jersey. No, show me New Jersey Johnson. Damn it. Yeah, it just doesn't have the ring to it. But it was 21 in the list. Seven people said New Jersey Johnson. All right. Jersey Johnson's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Jersey Johnson, yeah. And they're, you know, again, if somebody prefaced it with an abbreviation that I thought was worth talking about, I brought that up too. Yeah. Fair enough. Okay. I got a good one. I got a good one. You got a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Virginia Johnson. Virginia Johnson. It sounds like Virgin. That's pretty good. It is kind of a euphemism that Scott uses frequently, isn't it? Yeah. That's where my head's for him. Virginia.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah. Show me your Virginia Johnson. Number six. Nice. Claire should know. Claire knows. One person just put Virginia, obviously. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Obviously. That might have been me. That might have been Claire. That's, maybe not. I don't know. I can't remember what with it. All right. You knuckle.
Starting point is 00:33:56 heads what else you got what else you got do you have any brides oh yeah i i i liked it we didn't already say arizona we said we said indiana johnson yeah arizona johnson sounds good but is that what the temple would have said i don't know trying to think of more stupid things it's a good cowboy name yeah Arizona johnson sounds good yeah Claire, Claire is not, does not seem convinced. It's like, it's not one that runs off the tongue, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Now do you think they would have went with Missouri Johnson, Missouri? Missouri. He's got some connective tissue there, I believe, doesn't he? Not Missouri, I don't think. I don't know, I'm thinking like, even Maine Johnson or, like New Jersey Johnson. Oh, the Maine Johnson. See, you're thinking,
Starting point is 00:34:55 you're thinking Maine Johnson. That sounds pretty good. It's not bad. Maine Johnson. Is that what you're going with? You go with Maine Johnson? I don't know. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Sure. All right. All right. Show me Maine Johnson. I'm terrible. Oh, you do? Yeah, number four. Maine Johnson.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Very, very, very popular one. No, no, nobody added anything to the main Johnson's, by the way. Like we had some with, with others, explaining what the person would be, with that name who would right yeah well this is good you're killing me now destroying me
Starting point is 00:35:27 how about some are I beating you really good now yeah pretty good how about Kentucky Fried Johnson what do you think about Kentucky Fried Johnson Kentucky Fried Johnson
Starting point is 00:35:40 yeah good on sorry Kentucky Johnson All right Kentucky Johnson show me Kentucky Johnson oh you're definitely thinking the right thing though 17th in the list with
Starting point is 00:35:52 9 people. Okay, well, it was close, though. Yeah. Okay. That goes me an idea for the next one then. By the way, I did figure out which state was missing, and I'll save at the end, but, uh, okay. Oh, you did? Okay. I don't want to give any clues, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Very curious. Uh, Mississippi Johnson. Let's get that done. Mississippi Johnson. All right. Show me Mississippi Johnson. Yeah. Number eight.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah. Back in the game. Yeah, one point away. Oh, that one. Oh, that one. sounded so good in my head. So what else sounds good? Like, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:36:28 Arkansas. Actually, you know what? Arkansas Johnson's not bad. Arkansas, obviously not good. But Arkansas Johnson, I like it. Let's do it. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Okay. Arkansas Johnson on the air. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Oh, no. Uh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Damn it. Low in the list, surprisingly. Yeah, only two people said it, number 39. Lame. What about old blues player, Minnesota Johnson? What do you think about that? Was that a guy? Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:37:04 If he'd be a pool player. Wouldn't he be a pool player? There you go. So far, all those southern states haven't made it except for Mississippi. Oh, Florida, I guess. I guess two of them are. I guess Virginia. I either got to go Tennessee Johnson or.
Starting point is 00:37:20 All I can think of is stupid names like those. I can't think of anything clever. I just think in Tennessee Johnson. Like that, that sounds like, you know, a western guy. Yeah, he plays the banjo. Sure. Tennessee Johnson, the banjo. I get your meth.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I got your meth connections and all that. All right. Tennessee Johnson? Mm-hmm. Give me a Tennessee Johnson. All right. Show me Tennessee Johnson. Number 10.
Starting point is 00:37:48 That's a good points, baby. Oh, that's good points. That's good points. It's a really good points. Doubled your score. Did we say Kentucky Johnson? Oh, see, that's a thing. We got to strike them.
Starting point is 00:37:58 We got to, we got to strike them to Kentucky. Oh, you said. Kentucky Fried Johnson. Kentucky Johnson's a great name. It would be helpful if there was a list of the ones we striped on. I know. It'd be helpful, wouldn't it? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It's a bummer. Somebody should, somebody should have kept the list. What do you think? Do you have a list, gibbet? I think he does. Oh. I actually don't. I have a list of all the answers,
Starting point is 00:38:23 but I don't mark off the ones that you say. But not things? Oh, that's all not things. What do you think about, do we have a lot of tadpoolers in California, like California Johnson, you know, like it feels like it's a prospector or something?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Out there sifting for gold in the river? I'd do that. Yeah. Boy, you tell California Johnson, there's some gold up in there hills. Some gold nuggets up in there.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. All right, is that what you're saying? Let's do it. All right. What do you think, Claire? Yeah. Going for it. California Johnson.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Show me California Johnson. Oh, that's a shame. California was number, it was on here, number 19. Eight people said California Johnson. No, no, no, 19. I wonder if I could. Are you seriously thinking 19? How do you know that, Claire?
Starting point is 00:39:15 This, by the way, Claire, the one. How do you know the 19? How do you know the 19? 19 song. How old are you? It's a cool song. I think it's because we talk about on TMS a lot. It comes up here all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That's Paul Hardcastle. That's like even old for me. Yeah, that is. Great though. Dude, that song's awesome. By the way, this is the only clip I ever have of Claire right here. Listen.
Starting point is 00:39:35 God damn it. I wonder if I can train. I can send you plenty of clips. All right. We should train a voice for Claire and ruin the world. Yeah, I'll send you 30 seconds worth of jibber-dabber. fantastic. All right, let's do, so they're struck out. I got a chance here to, I can win, right?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Oh, Kentucky, Kentucky Pride Johnson would be funny. You need, basically you need 11 points, so any two of these would get you that. Oh, but three would still win first for Christmas. Well, with Vegas coming up, let's throw Nevada in there. Nevada Johnson also cools the prospector in. That's a good one. Gambler, you know. Plus you like the desert, so it makes sense. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Show me Nevada Johnson. Damn it. This merciful, that mercifully this round is over. How about Idaho Johnson? Is he in there? That is your number two answer. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Idaho Johnson? Idaho Johnson. People really like the sound of Idaho Johnson. It's weird one. Idaho, isn't that from point break? Isn't that kind of the, Idaho isn't the joke? I do it's Utah.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Johnny, Utah. Utah, I'm sorry. Yeah, point break with Johnny Utah. Give me two sandwiches, Idaho. Make you both potato-o sandwiches. All right. Wait, wait, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I, I, do-ho. Yeah, I am the hoe. Yeah, I'm the ho. Tell us about seven to nine. I'm very curious about what those are. Seven to seven is Montana Johnson. Oh, I like that. That's good.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And nine is Texas, but people seem to agree that it should just be abbreviated to Tex. Tex Johnson. Oh, Tex Johnson works. This Johnson is not as alliterative. Now, a lot of people combined your north and south. We had people who said individually north and South Dakota, but they all felt that Dakota Johnson would be a great one for you.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Oh, that's a good one. We already have one of those. And she's way more talented than me, so don't use that. I just noticed, like, if you say, so Texas Johnson less alliterative, but Mississippi Johnson, or let's say Montana Johnson, very alliterative. but if you put Ibit on there, Montana, Ibit, is harder to say. Texas Ibit sounds better.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It's so weird. Well, it's because you don't want to do a state. For Ibit, you don't want to do a state that ends with a vowel. So Nevada, Ibit, you'd have to do it, Colorado, Ibit. But if you do, you know, if you do Vermont, Ibit. Or Maine, Ibit. Maine, or Wisconsin, Ibit. Yeah, Wisconsin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I'm amazed more people didn't say that because talk about it. That's smart. And literative would have to be, you know, Jersey Johnson is. is a letter of because Oh, that's good. But Wisconsin was a big one. Ohio Johnson. The more syllables, I think the better it works,
Starting point is 00:42:25 although Massachusetts Johnson is almost too many syllables. Sure. That's my soul. Now, Claire won, but here's what I'm going to do. One state did not. Nobody said one particular state. Okay. And so if you're keeping track of what was said,
Starting point is 00:42:41 what was guest and me telling, you know, saying what number they were in the list. The person who names the state that was not in the list wins these prizes, and they're good games. Yeah, very good. Yeah, so we're going to watch the list here. And if nobody guesses in the first minute or so, because this is exciting audio,
Starting point is 00:43:01 we've had guesses for Minnesota, South Dakota, Guam, Illinois, Maryland. I will tell you it is a state. New Hampshire is not it. Hawaii, no, Washington, Rhode Island, no, Michigan. No, no. no one's got it people people must not be thinking of uh this state anyway because nobody has
Starting point is 00:43:21 been able to oh there we go jeff is a geek got it north carolina north carolina no nobody guess north carolina johnson it's really funny like every every other state was it even south carolina somebody said two people said south carolina that's wild to me uh one person said las vegas johnson no person said liquid johnson i don't know what they were answering different question to something. Ukraine, Johnson. And then finally,
Starting point is 00:43:50 what even is this question? It's hilarious. Yeah. That's amazing. So, Jeff is a geek. Yeah, I know the state of liquid. I get it. Jeff is a geek,
Starting point is 00:44:06 send me an email at covervillageeel.com, and I will send you these Steam games, courtesy of Claire, really. Oh, nice. responsible for you having them. Hey, the famed game designer Chris Metson, formerly at Blizzard Entertainment,
Starting point is 00:44:19 would like to say this to Claire. Here we go. You did a very good job, Claire. There you go. He says it. Wow. That's amazing that you got him to say that. It was really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 100% him, not a made up fake, deep fake. Okay. Claire, he did great. As always, go take that shower. Lord knows you need it. Just getting by.
Starting point is 00:44:39 She's out. Hey, Dunaway. Look at this deal. I said, no, you. Yesterday, due to all my dog stuff, we had to delay the show, play retro, but it's tonight now. So tonight, five, sorry, 330 Mountain Time, 530 Eastern, we'll be doing it then. And we're talking about all the best games for the game gear, Sega game gear back in the day. And they weren't, you know, this is a big list, and they, you know, not everyone's list is going to be the same.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We're warning you now that Brian and I kind of narrowed it down, but we're really happy with the ones we picked. okay over 300 titles on there and even if you get to exclusive games yeah is still a lot right we found them yeah we found them did not realize there are that many uh yeah there was over there were like 11 million game gear sold and a lot of people go like oh game gear did bad it's like yeah if you compare it to the phenomenal success that was the game boy but if you just go number of units shipped that's about a little less than or a little more than half of the Sega Master Systems that were sold
Starting point is 00:45:46 So not bad In considering the Sega Game Gear is just a master system Could play the master system Yeah, by the numbers A successful device It just by the competition was not So that's the way that all went down Also they sold a lot of batteries
Starting point is 00:46:00 We'll get into that also when we talk about it today That'll be tonight if you want to watch it live Or you can check the podcast out after Brian Dunaway have a fantastic day We'll see it today Okay Bye all right
Starting point is 00:46:13 who gave us that question again who was the creator of the Scott and State thing oh well I think that what might have been that might have been me just inspired by something that somebody had said oh I thought it was okay I thought somebody were written in and said no that one was not
Starting point is 00:46:29 some of the some of the feud ones are submitted by people at the end of the survey you had a chance to submit a question but I think this case was this case was not there you have it Oh, good stuff. We're going to take a break here in a second. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:44 We got time. Now we have time for the bag of salad question. Let's do that now. Okay. All right, let's do it now. Sure. Check this out. I have this question.
Starting point is 00:46:50 When Brian says bag of salad, what does it entail? Is it the off-the-shelf prepared kind? Or does he prepare individual salad bags in a meal prep form? I ask because I really enjoy salads, but don't enjoy making one. And I'll usually have the ingredients, but we'll make an easier lunch. All right. That's from Frank Info, who sent that text in. and I converted it with a voice.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's amazing. Frank Info sounds like that guy that was at the top of the show. It's crazy how that happened. I know, weird. Anyway, so how does it all plan out? Because usually it's just like bag of salad and we don't really question it.
Starting point is 00:47:22 We don't go into it further. No, he's exactly right. So it's the ones that come fully, I don't want to say fully prepared off the shelf, but it is a, Dole makes these. The ones we get are from Archer Farms, and they're really, really good.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Their Caesar is fantastic. And so what you get in the bag is, you know, a large bag, probably about the size of a small bag of potato chips. Not the take-it-in-your-lunch kind of bag of potato chips, but the kind of the medium-sized bag of potato chips. Right, right. And inside there is, of course, all of your chopped salad, but inside that also is a smaller bag that contains a yet smaller bag of dressing. In the case of the Caesar, it comes with dressing, comes with another bag of shredded cheese, another bag with croutons, bag with pepper and um what else i think that might be it for the caesar i think there's just the
Starting point is 00:48:17 four so basically here's what i do bowl plop uh scissors open the first bag dump it all into the bowl pull out the little bag open that cut the dressing plop cut the cheese cut the cheese her plop uh cut the uh the pepper plop stir it all around i'm i'm eating a a a restaurant level salad, restaurant comparable salad in 30 seconds from the time I pulled that thing out of the fridge. That's fantastic. And those are, are they cheaper than if you just bought all the things in bulk and then put them together?
Starting point is 00:48:53 Do you know? Probably not over the long run, because, I mean, obviously a head of lettuce, going through the process of chopping a head of lettuce down to these. And these are often a mix of like regular lettuce, your iceberg, you know, your iceberg, your rugla, you're whatever, maybe even a little kale. There's the one that we get that's like a kale salad. But then you've got to buy the cheese and shred it. Then you've got to get buy a bottle of dressing, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And then the problem with that is you buy all those ingredients, and yeah, you've saved some money. But now you're only eating Caesar salads for the next two weeks or a week and a half, whatever. Oh, gotcha. You don't want that. And at least this, you know, oh, today I'm having a Caesar salad. tomorrow I'm having a, there's one that's like an avocado green goddess kind of salad. And then this one is a barbecue chicken salad. And it's really, really, I mean, it comes out really easy and comparatively inexpensive for the variety that you get.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Nice. Well, there you have it. Yeah. What was his name? Joe, no, Frank Info. You've now got the info. Yeah. You have all the info.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Now he's got the info, and quite frankly, I hope he enjoys the info. I hope you do as well. And you will. that actually sounds good that's a good variety way of doing it I should do that more because I have a lot of samesies sometimes where I'll get all the greens
Starting point is 00:50:16 and do all the separate and I don't know how to mix it up so maybe buying the bag like that's the better way you know give it a shot see what you think like it is just have Kim pick one up the next time she goes to the store and see what she thinks
Starting point is 00:50:29 all right it's um yeah I'm I swear by it I should I keep threatening to make a record a little video showing how quick and easy. There's like a real-time video of here's how quickly I'm eating salad. You should do it. You should do it. It'd be the hot new trend on Reels, TikTok, and
Starting point is 00:50:46 YouTube shorts. Let's make it happen. Brian's new for a social media about to explode. Yeah. Well, I know a good site that can do voiceover for you. All right, let's move on. Oh, good. Perfect. Let's go to a commercial break. Not really commercial. It's just a song.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It's a song. Brian's going to play a song. It's a commercial for a band. Yeah, commercial for a band that you want to go and buy their music. Brian, tell me how... Oh, tell me who it's brought to us by first. Oh, sure. This song is brought to you by The Loud Thumbs Podcast with Hail Front and Friends.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Get it wherever you get your shows. Nice. Very nice. Go check that show out. All right. Big things to the syndicate for sending this one. They're, you know, they're the commercial provider here. This is a Toronto-based alt-rock group called Birds of Bellwoods. This is their brand new single. It's called Figured Out. It comes from their new album, which is called Everything
Starting point is 00:51:38 You Want. Catch them on tour starting this spring in Canada. Canada! Going through Ashua, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and more tickets are available right now. Here is Toronto-based Birds of Bellwoods and Figure It Out. Oh, that's
Starting point is 00:51:54 the song. All right. Yeah, it's figure it out. Figure it out for yourself. All right, figure it out for yourself. We'll be right back with Tom Merritt and Moore. Stay tuned. Another regret and another let's down. Never going, never going to. Never going to. We're all anxious. We're all depressed. We're all on our last cigarette.
Starting point is 00:52:15 All in love and all in debt. In mourning for the lives we left. They don't talk about us till we're dead. And even then, they all forget the things we said and days we spent. Places that we almost went. Another regret and another let down. Two steps back. Am I out of my head now? Reset.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Try to forget. But I'm never going to never. gonna never gonna figure it out what's next it's another let down two steps back am i out of my at my head now reset try to forget but i'm never gonna never gonna never gonna figure it out too high in the high-rise apartment solo still caught up in my own shed half in half out can i take it what's next it's another let down i'm never gonna never gonna never gonna never gonna figure it out In eight year now five now ten Are we still here
Starting point is 00:53:09 Looking in the same damn mirror Hoping that the fog will clear Yes someone said just let it die And I have tried a thousand times But I keep coming back to this Places that we almost miss Another regret and another let down Two steps back am I out of my head now
Starting point is 00:53:27 Reset Try to forget But I'm never gonna never gonna never gonna figure it out Too high in the high rise apartment solo still caught up in my own shed half in half out can I take it what's next it's another left down I'm never gonna never gonna never gonna figure it out days turn into weeks I'm better broken searching through chaos for symmetry but I'm
Starting point is 00:54:15 never gonna never gonna never another regret nothing let down two steps back out of my head now try to reset try to forget but I'm never gonna never gonna never gonna figure it out too high in the high rise upon me solo still caught up in my own shed Nothing have how can I take it? What's next? It's another let down. I'm never going to never end another, in another, in another regret. Nothing let down. Two steps back out of my head now.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Reset, try to forget, but I'm never going to, never going to figure it out. What's next? It's another let down. Two steps back, am I out of my head now? Reset, try to forget, but I'm never going, never going, never going to figure it out. What you're about to see in experience is a most unusual video. This video offers you a date, much like a sexy 9-76 telephone date, but for far less money. Also, there's much, much more.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Are you playing Nintendo with me? The morning stream. I'm a leaf on the wind. how I soar. And we've returned. Brian, who was that band once more? I will happily tell you that was a band called Birds of Bellwoods and a brand new song,
Starting point is 00:55:48 Figure It Out from their upcoming album, Everything You Want. I like the term or the name, Figure It out. It's just right there in your face. It is, yes, it is. Because if you say it, you can say it two different ways, and it means totally different things like, figure it out.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. You know, like a snoddy would, hey, figure it out. Oh, yeah, man. figure it out it's there for it's there for the figure and with the computer as with any tool the concept and direction must come from the man that man is tom merritt he joys us on joys us joins us on wednesdays and talks about the latest figure it out that's right figure it out um he was one of the people i trained the voice simulator to use and so now i have tom merritt at my at my disposal very excited sort of with great power comes great responsibilities
Starting point is 00:56:33 I know. I feel like I have contraband. I don't like the feeling. It's weird. But anyway, more, you know what? If you want to follow the goings-on of AI in the world, DTNS is not a bad source. When something breaks, it's like, hey, guess what? DTNS will talk about it. Among other things. Yeah, go ahead. We're artisan human-made podcasts. They're not these massive machine-made podcasts that you see. Farm-to-table podcasting. This is what we offer. I do wonder if you're going to start, if it becomes so good that make a real-time version of this stuff as possible, if shows will start talking like that as a marketing ploy to say, no, we're still people making a real show. I think at some point, I don't know how soon, but at some point, yeah, I think that becomes a version of that becomes a thing.
Starting point is 00:57:23 The programmers should put a fail-safe word in there that the computer can't say so that we could open every, you know, every podcast. podcast by going, all right, welcome to the cover-roll podcast, per quacky. This is Brian, I'm going to be listening to the song. There's a version of that being put out by some researchers that watermarks. So basically it says it will, it will use, the generating AI will use certain words more often. And so you'll be able to tell its style, whereas humans have much more very very. variation. So in places where you could choose five or six words and they all, you know, they'll all pretty much convey the same meaning, you can, you could tune the AI to choose one more often
Starting point is 00:58:13 and that way be able to tell, oh, that must have been machine generated. Right. Interesting. Okay. I love that. That'll only come from, I guess, companies or AI researchers who are, who are thinking to do that, right? It's a watermarking system, not a preventative, right? It's not a detection system. It's like, oh, if you want to make sure that the stuff your machine code generates is detectable easily, you could use that watermarking system. But yeah, anybody who doesn't
Starting point is 00:58:42 use that, any kind of open source thing out there that somebody tweaks not to use it, yeah, it would be able to get it right. You just have to ask your AI why they didn't flip over the tortoise when they came up upon in the desert. Why aren't you? Why aren't you helping? Yeah, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:58:57 They're just questions. These sorts of things come up on the show all the time. But Tom, I'm sure there's other news out there going on in tech. What's going on today? Yeah. I think we're going to kick around today on the show. The urgent matter that Platformers Casey Newton describes where Twitter called in 80 engineers to work on making sure that CEO Elon Musk's tweets were getting as much engagement as President Joe Biden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, I thought, at first when I first heard that, I went, oh, this is just somebody framing this to be weird or whatever. And then there was actually a bunch of evidence that he flew back from the Super Bowl, got all these guys out of bed. And then I noticed the next day or some point after that, I noticed that my for you tab was full of his tweets. And I mean like every reply he did, every post he did, every old reply. Wasn't that last week? Not this week, right? Whenever it was. Was it last week?
Starting point is 00:59:59 When was, I don't remember when, but time's weird. But all of that stuff showed up in my feet and I went, well, that's funny because, A, he's muted for me. So why is he showing up at all? Right. And B, I blocked him and they were still there. I kid, that part I was like, oh, okay, well, this must be me or a client or a glitch on their side or something's going on. And then this thing came out and I went, oh. So it was a forced, like, feature thing, which is a little weird.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That doesn't give me a lot of confidence in that. the service. I mean, you know, take, I try to take all away all the weird, you know, back and forth about you love Elon, you hate Elon, like all of that aside, I don't want this if it was Jack still. I don't want this, whoever owns the damn platform. I don't want to see your tweets like that. It seems insane to me. Be forced to see them. Yeah, no, for sure. Weird. Well, uh, too bad. You don't know the company. You don't like it. Uh, you, you can, you can just, uh, not use Twitter. that apparently. No, it's calmed down now. So the, the, the, uh, the tweet storm, uh, is over. And according
Starting point is 01:01:07 to the platformer estimates are that the impressions that Musk's tweets are getting now are about at the high end of what they would normally get. Um, uh, but yeah, uh, certainly caused me to unfollow him, because I'm like, yeah, I don't want to, I don't, if, if I'm just going to see them anyway, there's no need to, uh, to follow. Uh, and, and then, then they did subside. And it was only in the 4U. If you switched to following, they went away. So you had some control. But yeah, I do think it is worth kicking around, you know, what we should think, if anything, about the idea that a CEO comes in and requires 80 engineers to scramble in an afternoon to tweak the algorithm to put their posts first and then essentially uses live Twitter as a staging platform instead of checking it.
Starting point is 01:01:59 out first to just flood your feed before they were able to tune the algorithm. According to Platformer, this is now called the, I'm trying to find the name of it, but it's a high, high influence user thing. Yeah. Okay. Does that mean anybody with it? Like, let's say somebody's got five million. Power user multiplier. Power user multiplier. There is one power user. Okay. They have one person qualifies. And his name is Elon Musk, yeah. So, so, but it, but, so I'm trying to have the, the, the, the, the attitude of, okay, but the, but the long-term goal of this, is it that people with a ton of followers, let's say, five million or more followers, are they meant to also increase their engagement? Was there something wrong? And that he just used himself as an example to, like, fix this.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Again, devil's advocate here. He, he, he wanted to know, like, like any person in charge, he wanted to know why his thing wasn't working the way it should, and he demanded it be fixed. Okay. All right. So they fixed it for him. Yeah. There was no underlying problem. That is
Starting point is 01:03:13 one of the interesting things about this whole situation is the engineers don't really know why his tweets were not receiving the engagement. That's the thing that we forget about algorithms. It's not like the engineers at these companies like Twitter and Facebook
Starting point is 01:03:28 know exactly what their algorithms are doing and they fine-tuned it to their evil plan, they sort of can push them one direction or other and see what happens. And what was happening with Musk's was that his engagement was going down. His weren't being promoted as much. And whether that was a malfunction, which it definitely could have been, or whether it was just because people were less interested and the algorithm was responding that, it also could have been that. they didn't know, so they took the filter off.
Starting point is 01:04:00 They basically cluged it, if you believe what platformer sources are telling them. They took the filter off, which caused everything to be musk in the 4U feed. Then they fine-tuned it to kind of bring it back down. But it is specific to his account. They still don't know why the algorithm did that in the first place. They haven't fixed the underlying problem or discovered if there was an underlying problem. They haven't discovered an explanation. these algorithms are as much of a black box as ever,
Starting point is 01:04:29 which is why we see so many problems with them that some people attribute to malice, but more often than not, it's unintended consequences. Yeah, it's fascinating how this stuff gets done. I mean, I find I'm both annoyed and interested in how that stuff works at the same time, if that's possible. Kind of like this deep fake audio stuff. I'm both fascinated and horrified.
Starting point is 01:04:50 It's hard not to be, I guess. But that is the fun therein of the Daily Tech News show. It's also very informative. So if you guys aren't already checking it out, you should be because topics like this get discussed all the time with really smart people. Justin and I switch places this week. So I'm on tomorrow. He's on today. And really looking forward to tomorrow because apparently there's something big happening.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I don't know about. Yeah. We've got Sean Hollister from The Verge on. And all he could tell me is, you should have me on the show Thursday. And I said, great. Wow. Yeah. And knowing what kinds of things he usually covers, I figured it was a good bet to get Scott over there because I think it'll fall in his bailiwick. So keep an eye on that tomorrow. Yeah, it's going to be great. Tom Merritt, anything else going on in your world you'd like to tell the fine folks about?
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah, there's that, of course, daily tech news show.com. We're going to be talking about Stephen Wolfram's explanation of chat GPT, one of the best explanations of chat GPT and how it works on the show today. Okay, that was weird. Sorry. Discord crashed on me and relaunched. And that wasn't it. No one's fault, but discords. I heard them beeped, but I wasn't sure if it was just someone messaging me. Yeah, that was really odd. Anyway, sorry about that. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. He is Ace Detect on Twitter, that place where his tweets will rise above all others. Tom, have a great week. We'll see you next time. Thanks. I know. I don't know why he does that. sometimes. That is weird. All I'm doing is switching the video thing, and most of the time it's fine, but sometimes
Starting point is 01:06:27 it completely destroys and then relaunches. I don't know why. Whatever. We'll live. All right. Strap in, guys. Recommendals on its way. It's going to be a big one today.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Big, big, big. Takes me a second to add, everybody. There we go. We'll pull him in. We'll make it happen. We'll have some fun. And here we go. It's time for recommendals where we take stuff we've seen on streaming services
Starting point is 01:06:58 and recommend them to you, the home user or the listener of the show. Whatever you want to call yourselves, we're okay with it. We always bring our friends on, both Nicole and Randy. Hello, Nicole, welcome back. Hi. Hi, how are you? Hello. Hello, friends.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Hello, friend. Welcome to the friend time. Also, Randy Jordan joining us. Hello, Randy. Aloha, it's the real me. I promise. the real me talking that's the actual good morning morning stream yeah not not this guy hi this is randy jordan i like to eat babies not it's not that that's not you that's a made up you i don't believe
Starting point is 01:07:34 you yeah i promise you trained really well you and i are the best trained voices on here i think um for whatever reason was i was freaked out when you said you were going to play chris metzen because it didn't sound anything like chris metzen and i was like what is that yeah how did you do that you have to play longer for his to be about right like um let's see if i do you me just for fun let's just try something here so we do this in vetson's voice we'll do a longer chunk of text because sometimes length matters sorry always terrible does not sound good Disneyland riders literally had to walk the plank to escape a sinking pirates of the Caribbean boat that left them stranded for an hour before the Disney so it's it's not quite there
Starting point is 01:08:12 what it is for me is that when you talk to Chris and like especially when you're in the same room. He always sounds like he's leading a TED talk. Always. And so, like, I can't, I can't take that sort of, like, casual sound. No, I get to. I need Chris to sound impressive at all. Who's ready for my AI voice? Yeah, we need stage, Chris, man. That would be cool. Yeah, mine, I trained him on off of the phone call interview that he and I did, you know, years ago, and it's about the best audio quality I could do. So that's the other thing it replicates. It replicates the mic you're on. Yeah, the one for Wendy is dead on her microphone for Therapy Thursday.
Starting point is 01:08:53 It's like, yeah. Isn't that weird? Hi, I'm Wendy Dunford. And I love it. That's so weird because she always talks on her phone, like her speaker phone to us. And they replicate that part of it. If anything, that's creepier. Another thing I'm noticing is that you have a sense of who you should probably talk to before doing this.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Right? Like, you knew very, very well that I would love for you to do this kind of thing. Of course. Yeah. There's other people that you should be like, I better get consent. Yeah, no, exactly. Carter won't let me do it, for example. She's like, you do not have my consent.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Kim was just weirded out by it, even though I know she would have that affair with Nathan Philly and given the chance. Just kidding, dear. Just kidding. I'm kidding. Anyway, well, let's do these. I wouldn't do this for Veronica Belmont without asking her. No, hell. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:09:40 No. Exactly perfect example. Yeah, she would murder me. Oh, my gosh. You get to see the anger, the anger of Veronica Belmont that we saw during. Frog Pants All-Stars, basically. I ain't doing that. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Well, let's get to it here. We got some recommendals. Brian, we're going to start with you. Okay. With your recommendal. Give us a little heads-up on the clip here, if you would. Yes. So this is a film, a brand-new film.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Well, brand-new as of 2022. And I pulled a clip of the dubbed version because the acting, the audio acting in the dubbed version is actually really good. But this is a foreign film. and we enjoy it with subtitles. But let's get to the clip. All right, here we go. These aren't negotiations. This is a dictate.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Maybe we should return to SPAR to consult with the general staff. And what expectations do you have for that? Even if we end up losing definitively after all, we won't be worse off than we are with this surrender, except for a few hundred thousand extra deaths. Al-Sas-Lorraine, occupation of the Rhineland, cannons, locomotives, trains, and whatever else. You are aware, this is a total capitulation. A hundred and fifty thousand Americans are landing each month in Europe.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Marn. Cantony, Cambrai, all of those lost. All that's left separating us from an armistice is false pride as I see it. Thanks to you and your commanders, we're here dealing with the mess that has been left by them. I'm happy for you to depart here. It's down to you. We are remaining here. It is winter. Without trains and provisions, Bolshevism will take over. On their way home, the men will die of hunger.
Starting point is 01:11:14 instead of dying with honor on the battlefield. Honor. My son was killed in the war. He doesn't feel any honor. I'm blown away by that non... The voice acting. Yeah, that's really good. It is really good.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And it's one of the things that if you decide you want to watch the dubbed version of All Quiet on the Western Front, then you shouldn't be afraid to because it's, like you said, it's really well done. We did the subtitled version, which of course is just fine, but now after hearing, basically the first time I heard the dubbed version was this more or less yesterday afternoon when I was putting my audio together for the show. And it's like, oh, man, we could have easily done this one.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Far better than the audio dubbing for Money Heist or Squid Game or any of those. This is really good. This is a German movie. It is all quite on the Western front. And if you're saying, wait a minute, that's an old movie. Brian based on a really old book, a 1929 book, if you might be saying, no, this is a brand new film that I didn't realize was a brand new film until all this talk right before the Oscars and then seeing the nomination like, oh, there's a new all quiet on the Western
Starting point is 01:12:26 front. Cool. Yeah, heard amazing things about it. Is it is, how dark are we talking? It's probably pretty dark, right? It's dark. It follows, it basically follows a group of young German soldiers as they sign up to join the war effort and are sent to the front lines, sent to the Western Front, and are fighting against the French, and just seeing what they go through from being all gung-ho and excited to jump into the war and very quickly realizing that it is not the glory and an honor that they were led to believe, it's if you enjoy things like 1917
Starting point is 01:13:10 a couple years ago or Dunkirk or things like that this is right up your alley this is a beautifully shot
Starting point is 01:13:18 incredibly well-acted war film and even though 99% of the people you're seeing in it are people you won't recognize you will see
Starting point is 01:13:28 a Marvel connection here with Daniel Brule who is our Baron Zemo in the Marvel universe we just saw a lot
Starting point is 01:13:36 of him in Winter Soldier and the Falcon Winter Soldier Disney Plus series. Got to see him dancing for quite a while in that show. He plays, who is he? He is the, I think the war minister is Matthias Erzberger, who is the German, I'm sorry, minister of finance, but he's involved in the decisions on the war effort,
Starting point is 01:14:01 whether or not they're going to surrender or accept terms from the French. and there's a very interesting, a lot of incredible scenes about the armistice talks with him. He's fantastic, and I wish they would have gotten him to dub his own voice for the English translation because he's got a very distinctive, recognizable voice to him, and I think it would have been really easy to get him to do that. This is obviously one of the Oscar nominations, nominees for Best Picture, well-deserved. Also, Best International Feature, it's got a very good shot of winning that, and Best Adapted Screenplay. So it's got nine total Academy Award nominations, so those are the three most prominent ones. I think of it as a really difficult screenplay to adapt.
Starting point is 01:14:53 So, like, the 1979 version, I don't think is a very watchable movie. That was the Borgonine version, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that was, yeah, and that was made for TV, a made-for-TV version. there's the original with um oh crap oh the original like from 1930 1930 yeah but that's the one that's i think that was a that might have well let's see 1930 would that have been before the first Oscars the first Oscars that Wings won was right around then so yeah it was like early 30s right yeah yeah so it might have that one might
Starting point is 01:15:30 have been nominated at its at its time for an Oscar um for an Oscar but But, yeah, it seems like it would be a hard adaptation to do. This film is fascinating. It is both heartbreaking and inspiring to watch. You're really feeling for these kids. Obviously, it's done really well to give you their perspective as they're learning the age-old idiom, war is hell. but it's
Starting point is 01:16:05 God, it's such a well-done movie. I don't know if I'd put it at the top of my list as far as the movies we've seen the Best Picture nominees, but there's still a few. I haven't seen the triangle of sadness or Meet the Fablemans. I guess it's just called the Fablemans
Starting point is 01:16:23 or women talking. Those still haven't been streaming. Let's call it Meet the Fables. Yeah, I want that. That's hysterical. It's the long-running meet the Falkers. we've been waiting for all this so this uh just quick clarification um i was wrong the first academy awards were um may 16th 1929 so just just at the end of the 20s okay so yeah so this could have been
Starting point is 01:16:46 um and i guess back or uh that movie did win best picture in 1930 though all quiet on the west this one did the original version the uh the original film yeah which makes me wonder is there we had that before a remake of an old film got best picture then and again is that ever happened Grit, I think, got, I don't know if it, it didn't get best picture this last time around, but it did get nominated both times. Right. Absolutely, yeah, both definitely shared nominations. I just wonder if anything's ever won twice. I don't know if anything, oh, Star is born.
Starting point is 01:17:15 How about? That's at least one, one best picture. The Judy Garland one and the Barbara Streisand ones, both. Did they both win? Wait, did that, did the new one win best picture? I think the Maltese Falcon. Oh, Maltese Falcons. Did we have a new Maltese falcon?
Starting point is 01:17:31 says that Starsborn didn't win best picture. I know the Gaga one didn't win, but I thought the Chris Christopherson, Barbara Streisand one did. You were saying like the first two, not the, not the new one. Yeah, not the most reason, one, the first two. Anyway, yeah, I don't know if that's an interesting, that would be a big deal if somebody did that. That would be, yeah, that would be, and, you know, it's, oh, wow, free rangers says none of them won. Okay, I could have sworn that, like, if you would have any money, put money on it, I would have said, the Judy Garland one for sure one, and I was pretty sure the Barbara Streisand one didn't, but interesting.
Starting point is 01:18:06 All right. So, yeah, I think that would make this. And you're saying Maltese Falcon, has there been more than one? Yeah, I didn't know there was a new one or a newer one than the one that happened. Well, there's the Marlowe, which is coming out. Oh, no, that's Sam Spade. That's a different detective. Yeah, there's a newer Maltese falcon.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I didn't know that. I would watch that. I wouldn't be surprised if multiple versions of Westside Story have won. or at least been nominated. Both have been nominated. And the first one, again, I'm questioning all my best picture knowledge here. The first one, I think won, obviously. But bottom line, you're saying you totally agree with All Quiet getting nominated this year.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Yes. Oh, without a doubt. And, you know, compared to Avatar and tar and tar. Yeah, have a tar. That's, it's Fargo and Argo. Have we seen? Best Picture names fully contained within another nominee. Two different years, though.
Starting point is 01:19:12 But, yeah, I'm trying to think of where I'd put it in the list. I know I... Most people have Elvis and Avatar and Tar all, you know, like, why are these even on this? I would put... Elvis, for sure, I would put on that list. I really enjoyed Tar as a... an exploration of the of the character yeah um but elvis i thought was as egregious as making the main character a non-influence on their own life as much as blonde
Starting point is 01:19:45 was for maryland minroe so do you do you like of all the ones you've seen which would you say not your favorite but what do you think's going to win oh see i everything everywhere would have to i i can't imagine it not winning at this point like I oh really what could you do to not have everything everywhere when best picture I don't know I don't know it seems a little too out there man seems a little too um I don't know a little fantasy I'd still put I'd still put banshees and Sharon above everything everywhere all at once and above top gun mavericks so the ones I yeah those are the ones I haven't seen triangle of sadness fableman's women talking and um oh my God that's it I've seen all the other ones so those are those three I still need to watch. I'll bet banshees wins. My prediction is banshees. I love that movie.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah. I don't know if it will for sure, but if I had to put money on it. Yeah. And Triangle of Sadness being a satirical comedy, you know, play on the, the Uber rich, it's going to be enjoyable, but it's going to be, it's like, I don't expect it to be Oscar material. Yeah. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Fableman's is a love letter to Hollywood, and Hollywood loves, as we've seen in the past, Hollywood loves a love letter to its own. it also it also loves to give awards to people who've won many many many awards it's just it's just outrageous like i keep hearing people who are so outraged that the fableman's stars a bunch of uh not jewish people oh is that a thing i didn't know that i just know the why are these not jewish actors all in this movie i only know that the ridler i don't know anyone else in it but the ridler guy i can't think of his name but the ridler actor i would like i would like to
Starting point is 01:21:31 unpack this a bit more in a couple of weeks, but I feel pretty strongly right now. All right. Well, there you go. Go check it out. Brian, the title once again. The movie actually talked about was all quiet on the Western front, which is on Netflix. Seriously, you know, you may have skipped over my last two subtitled movie recommendations.
Starting point is 01:21:51 But don't skip on this one, all quiet on the Western front. Okay. Well, you got to get that cough like that. I really do. Yeah. It's like coughing out these. great movies all right i'm going to play Nicole's thing and Nicole I've been looking
Starting point is 01:22:04 forward to what you watch for a while now so I'm anxious to hear what you have to say any kind of set up you want to do here no I just happen upon it on Apple Plus and it was funny because I said it in my watch list and it showed up as a trivia question in an S&L skit
Starting point is 01:22:21 oh just recently I know the one too that's very weird oh that's funny yeah one odd a odd bit of happenstance. And it's an anthology, and I pretty much binged all eight episodes at once. All at once. All at once. All right. I haven't done that in a while. Wow. That speaks highly. All right. Well, here it is the clip.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Seemed distracted today. Yeah, he's traumatized. I'm traumatized. It's my wife's birthday. Oh. My ex-wife. You got a caller? It's complicated. Kind of in the middle of something. You don't have to run, Carol. We had this long for caffeine. Patrol just dropped this off. They're sitting on a car about half mile away, registered to a... Rebecca Moss?
Starting point is 01:23:05 Rebecca Moss. That's me. Wow, that's her. Can we take a minute to acknowledge the real tragedy here? I was clearly in my prime. You think IDing a dead girl's funny? No, no. It's just who gets a blowout and contours their face before a trip to the DMV?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Wow. Live with your license photo a long time, Carol, unless you die. All right. It seems like my kind of jam. Tell us about this show. So you just heard Alison Brie. This is the, let's see, this one is episode six,
Starting point is 01:23:40 the woman who solves her own murder. So in it, Alison Brie, of course, is the one murdered. And you follow her on her journey of trying to solve her own murder. And you also heard, I can't remember her last name,
Starting point is 01:23:56 but she's on S&L. Ego. Oh, Nwodum. Yeah. So she was the woman that came at Carol that was critiquing her having her hair done for her photo. And Alice in Brie's character is not really there, right? She's seeing this after, you know, they can't see her or hear her. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:16 That's why she's talking over them because she's a ghost. Okay. And one of the detectives is Hugh Dancy. Is it? Sure. Sure. So anyway, all of them. these episodes, they start
Starting point is 01:24:30 with the woman. So it's, the first one is the woman who disappeared, the woman who ate photographs, the woman who was kept on a shelf, the woman who found bite marks on her skin, the woman who was fed by a duck. That one is weird.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I caution you on that one. Okay. So you just sold Scott on the whole fair. Yeah, man, I'm all in now. Sounds great. That one, um, yeah, that's, yeah when you watch it you'll go okay that's what nicole was talking about the woman who returned her husband and the girl who loved horses these are all little mini stories little mini um episodic
Starting point is 01:25:12 or the episodes are contained within so you could stop and start each one and get closure well usually with an anthology there's something that connects him is there a thing like that in here where there's like a they're all women okay A woman. It's women's stories written by women. That's why it's rar, right? And it's like a flower with a woman. It's a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:25:37 The biggest celebrity, I would say, in the episode two with Nicole Kidman, the woman who ate photographs. That one is a very, oh, sad story about a. Gene woman who her kids are growing up. Her mom has just recently been diagnosed with dementia and it's like it's this whole thing that she's
Starting point is 01:26:07 going through. There's funny parts to it. Like every episode there's tongue in cheek funny. It's dark a lot of, it's very dark comedy. Yeah. But I loved every single one of the the duck one was weird.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I can't stop. I can't. I can't stop. Sorry. The duck one just really disturbed me. Really? I can't wait for this. She's a single girl and, um... Oh, it's got Merritt Weaver in that one. And it has the guy from a good place.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yeah, Justin Kirk. Jason. Oh, Jason Matsukas. Yeah, that name. Derek. I love all those guys. Look at this cast. Jake Johnson.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Daniel Day Kim. I haven't seen him in a while. Justin Kirk's really good. I also really like Merritt Weaver. I'll watch her do anything. Yeah. She's an episode one episode. I go, I know that actor, but I don't know their name.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Alfred Molina, Ricky Linnholm, which again, you know, because of the glow connection. Oh, Betty Gilpin. The glow showrunners. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's the girl that was kept on a shelf with, what's his name from Lost? Daniel Day Kim. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Oh, man. And Gopher, I just can't get over that gopher is in this thing. Gofer from me. Is he really? Well, he was in something that I recommendal just recently. too. Having a little bit of a comeback. Yeah, exactly. He went, he went quiet for a real long time. Even after his politics,
Starting point is 01:27:33 he just sort of stopped existing. But hey, Gopher's back, everybody. Good old Fred Grandy. Yeah. The woman who returned her husband is funny and sweet. It's about an older woman who's just fed up with her husband. So apparently in this world, you can return them. And she tries out, and she tries out new
Starting point is 01:27:53 husbands. And the first one she tries out is, Peter I'm going to butcher his name Fassanini He's from Faccinelli Facheli From Twilight and
Starting point is 01:28:06 Can't Harley wait Oh yeah I know that guy I like him He's good So he's creepy He gives me the creepy boyfriend He was a nice husband
Starting point is 01:28:19 But he was a nice husband But he reminded her of his mother So by the way This is how we'll never We'll always know if Nicole has been replaced with AI. Oh, yeah, I know. Because, yeah, we won't get the Sunilia. The Sunilie, we won't get stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:28:35 I'd love that, though. No, I don't change. I was actually when she put four syllables in the word dementia, I was trying to imagine how I would have written it out. Yeah, how I would have written it out to make the AI say it in her voice. I think it will let you do phonetics. So you can, I was having a hard time with the word. They had a hard time with the word soldering because I did this fake thing for my sister.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And she had to spell it S-O-D-D. Yeah. Oh, I was wondering about that. Okay, because, yeah, I saw that didn't have it as soldering. And I'm guessing that's how it pronounced it. Yeah. What is it? What is it?
Starting point is 01:29:08 What is it? So, I don't know. They're not perfect, obviously, but these things are, they're highly tweakable. Anyway, Roar. On Apple TV Plus, the episodes are about 30. I think the longest one is 40 minutes, but, no, no, 30. 37 minutes of the long. That's great.
Starting point is 01:29:27 This looks really good, and I loved glow, so the fact that the showrunners are involved with this is great. Would you say that the, I'm trying to say this, the vibe of it is kind of
Starting point is 01:29:42 black mirrorish or a different, not that. Is it something? Not as dark. Okay. Definitely not as dark. I mean, it's just I guess if you're a woman you're watching that I just like yep
Starting point is 01:29:55 there's a lot of a lot of stuff you're going to yep yep and it's just put into a you know a story format
Starting point is 01:30:04 and like the woman who found bike marks on her skin was directed by Rashida Jones and it deals with women
Starting point is 01:30:15 that feel the pool of motherhood and work and a lot of this is a lot of these stories are about kind of taking feelings that you know can happen as you go through being a woman and I know when I had my son the desire to go back to work but then the incredible guilt that you felt and like how do you how do you sometimes you can't even put it into word but it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of need that they put it into a show. I agree. I like this kind of stuff. I'm in. I add this on a list already. It's already in my little queue. I just haven't pulled the trigger. I will now pull said trigger. Nicely done. All right, let's move on to Randy Jordan for his recommendal. Randy, what's
Starting point is 01:31:09 set up here? Let's lighten it up and make it darker at the same time. We can do that. Sure. And here's how we're going to do that. So as I've said before, I don't like to come in here every week and recommend a comedy special, although I would if I felt that it was appropriate. There are so many great comedians who keep cranking out comedy specials, right? You should just watch them. Like if there's a new special from Nicole Beyer or Roy Wood Jr. Or Hannah Gadsby or Bo Burnham or Gerard Carmichael, I could like list 100. Like you should just watch those if they come out, right?
Starting point is 01:31:44 So I'm here to tell you, I watched the comedy special and I did not expect to like it. and I loved it and it just came out a few days ago and it's from a comedian that I have been ignoring for 15 years and now I'm scratching my head like oh maybe I should pay more attention to this person all right let's play and see what we get thank you thank you for coming I don't want to be negative but I don't think anything's ever going to get better ever again I don't want to bump anybody out but I think this is pretty much the way it's gonna be for however long it takes us to polish his planet off.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And don't misunderstand me. I have no hope. I think if you have hope, what are you fucking seven? Again, I don't want to be negative, but you kind of know it's true, right? In your heart, you know that it's fucking over, right? I know it's hard to handle.
Starting point is 01:32:45 culturally, politically, climate-wise. What are you going to do about the climate? Nothing. I think in the back of our heads, we're like, well, you know, I don't want to get in the way of any of that Swedish teenagers doing. You know, Greta's got focused.
Starting point is 01:33:04 She's young. I think she's going to nail it. Speaking of glow, by the way. That is, of course, Mark Marin. His brand new special just came out a few days ago. is called From Bleak to Dark. And it's that. I just played the first minute.
Starting point is 01:33:23 It is that. And it just goes on and on. And you're like, how is he doing this? Like, he closes with 10 minutes on his girlfriend who died. And this happened like a year ago. Oh, God. And it's like how I don't understand how this is. Like, do you remember the first time you saw,
Starting point is 01:33:45 saw Nanette or like heard Hannah Gadsby and she says, I am not here to make you laugh. But then she goes on to make you laugh despite trying not to. This is the inverse of that, but it's just as dark. He is obviously trying to make you laugh, but he's asking himself over and over and over, should I? Should I be even talking about this subject, you know? and it is it is just brilliant i like i say i have i have mistakenly paid no attention to mark marron for a long time and he is just he is top of the game did you watch him in glow no that was
Starting point is 01:34:29 great and glow i love him in those small parts and stuff and i used to listen to back in the day used to listen to wTF the podcast that he did he was a great interviewer and uh he he led his if you were subjects talk. And what turned me off on that was that generally speaking, I don't care about people who are in their own head. I don't find that entertaining compared to people who are talking about subjects outside of their own head. And so, like, I listened to Mark Merritt a couple of times in his heyday.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And I was just like, uh, I, you know, I need this guy to just go to therapy and I'm not going to be a part of that. but apparently you know apparently he is really really good at writing stand up like he's like exceptional at writing standup
Starting point is 01:35:22 and this is this is such a good example yeah I need to see this I like him a lot I like his standup I like to show Brian's write about his interview style so it's one of the best he gets the stuff out of people that you know I feel like I feel like Stern does this a little bit as well
Starting point is 01:35:36 but Marin's really top of the game in that regard and for a long time he was the number one podcast in the world yes um until rogan and others came and usurped it but um yeah he's he's a really interesting dude but i have to admit the things i like the most from him are these weird bit parts not like it wasn't so much a bit part but what he didn't glow and other i'm trying to think of some other stuff i know i've seen him in but he but whenever he shows up in some show and he's just playing some you know kind of nebish negative character it's always good yeah yeah it's always funny all that beard and all that hair. I love it.
Starting point is 01:36:11 The most legendary comedy specials have something that you never expected and that just kind of like make you, make you force you to remember them. Do you know what I mean? There's like, there's just like a handful of them over the years. And in this one, he does a joke that's a long story, but the joke ends with him telling the joke on stage in the moment that he's telling it. it's it's this crazy thing i i've never seen somebody do this where he tells he tells a story that leads up to the current present actual moment he's telling it i'm just like it's like it was just brilliant i love this guy can't wait to see it i will definitely watch that i like a good
Starting point is 01:36:57 stand of comedy there is uh i i didn't uh recommend it like i didn't ask my wife to watch it i don't recommend it for anyone who is struggling with dark things. This is a trip into some really bad times. Like I say, his longest bit is about his girlfriend dying and him being
Starting point is 01:37:25 present for that. Like she had a sudden diagnosis of leukemia and died very rapidly. Yeah. And like you can tell, you can until this is just like the most terrible thing that, you know, has happened in his life. And it's not, this is not for everybody. Yeah. Strikes me as a guy who, uh, deals with hard stuff through laughter.
Starting point is 01:37:49 And that's his, you know, he may be seeing an actual therapist, but I think this is part of his therapy. And again, it's called from bleak to dark. It is on HBO Max. Very nice. All right. I will end with a very much fictitious thing that's got nothing to do with comedy, although there are some funny moments.
Starting point is 01:38:05 A movie I meant to see when it came out and didn't. Here's my clip. Fletcher. Buenos Aires. Aremundo. I should stab you with that fucking rolling pin. Oh, don't be cancy. I was just hoping we could have a cozy little drink together.
Starting point is 01:38:21 So, I've got a meeting on Saturday at your favorite newspaper. As the best private investigator in this smoky little town, good evening, ladies and gentlemen, they are ready to put 150 grand in my pocket to give them some filth. Good for me that, but in this case, it's bad for you. Okay. If you don't know what this is, this is 2020's The Gentleman. Sorry, 2019 is when it came out. The Gentleman, directed by Guy Ritchie, written by Guy Ritchie.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I love Guy Ritchie movies where he gets back to the basics of London-based crime mobster business. so you know the two smoking barrels era or snatch or any of that stuff love those movies and the gentleman in a lot of ways is his big return to that and the guy you heard talking there was none other than uh the where where i've count Hugh Grant yeah you almost an unrecognizable Hugh Grant yeah it took me a minute I will say I knew he was in it but I was like wait is this him like it was freaking me out um the movie is a little weird it stars Matthew McConaughey as an American transplant into the London Underground Crime Syndication Business and his girlfriend played by Michelle Dockery, who was always good.
Starting point is 01:39:43 I love her. Charlie Hunan is Ray, this character he's talking to that just yelled the F-bomb at him. It has a smaller but amazing role from Colin Farrell that I will never forget. It's amazing. Tony Wu is really good in this. It's just, I don't want to. I don't want to give too much away, but it's basically, you know, underground drug trafficking, uh, cockney speaking, uh, Guy Ritchie movie. And you either like those already or you don't.
Starting point is 01:40:13 So if you liked things like Snatch and, uh, lock stock and two smoking barrels, yeah, like movies like those early things that he did, then you'll really like this. And I did watch, um, the one he did right before this was the movie called, uh, let's see the Statham movie. What was that called? Shoot. I, I think I recommended it here on the show. it was wrath of man okay um that actually came out later so gentlemen gentlemen then wrath of man and prior to that was aladdin which is crazy um but anyway i just think guy richie speaks a very specific language when he's making movies like this that are just endlessly entertaining and i never can get enough of them so um it's cool first off i'm i'm surprised you bleep
Starting point is 01:40:57 the f word and did not blurp the c word right after it i didn't hear You know what? First time I really heard it was today. Like his accent, I just couldn't tell. And Charlie Hunnam, by the way, from your son. I always say Hunan, like Hunan Express. Like it's Hunan chicken. Charlie Hunan, 50 shades of anarchy.
Starting point is 01:41:17 I don't know why I do that. But anyway, he's very good in it as well and very intimidating in it. Anyway, it's a big twisty story that you're not sure where it's going to go. And it ends up in a place I didn't predict. And I think that's all I'll say about it Because I don't want to spoil it It's currently on Netflix And it's a great time
Starting point is 01:41:36 If you're in the mood for such things Nice escapism Yeah this might have been one of the last films I saw in theaters before lockdowns happened Because around that time We saw in the theater And I'd completely forgotten about it Until you brought it up like
Starting point is 01:41:53 Oh yeah, I really like that And again like the actors and stuff You mentioned and how what a turn it is for a lot of them. Yeah, I would say the best, this is the best thing since rock and roll which came out in 08, it's been a while. Yeah, he doesn't make a lot of movies.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Well, he makes, he's had plenty. It's just, it's a lot of mainstream stuff. Like he did Aladdin, that live action Aladdin, he did a King Arthur thing, the man from uncle. Okay, but when you say Guy Ritchie movies, you're talking about snatch, lockstock, rock and rolla, and it's like, the guy just doesn't, like, other people with his kind of success would have made
Starting point is 01:42:28 a movie every two years. Oh, yeah, no. I mean, you're right, but I mean, he's made 25 movies and he's got four on the way and it's not like he doesn't make movies. I feel like the Ministry of Ungentlemanly warfare, which is due for 20, 24 is going to be a quote unquote guy Ritchie movie. Yeah, dude. So I'm excited about that. So yeah, he's got, you know, it's a mixed bag. Like, I think those Sherlock Holmes movies are fun, but they're not the, they're not the guy Ritchie I signed up for, but they're good. I mean, they get the job done. I thought King Arthur was fun which also had Charlie Hunan Chicken Express in it
Starting point is 01:43:04 But anyway, yeah, it's a return to that form It's usually the ones he writes that are like this So watch for those And he wrote this and it's amazing I really, really liked it And thought it was a whole lot of fun And if you have a little mob itch For a mob movie, it'll do just fine
Starting point is 01:43:22 So that's on Netflix right now You got me really digging on what was the last movie I saw in a theater and I have not seen a movie in a theater since before. Oh, really? Okay. And the answer, I think, is the rise of Skywalker, which is just sad. That is kind of sad.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Mine was Sonic. And then, well, no, I saw Spider-Man after the newer Spider-Man that came out last year. It was the last year? Two years. Whatever it was. What a blur. So that was my next one. But Sonic was mine.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Nicole, what was the last movie you saw in a movie theater before everything shut down? Oh. Well, we went after everything started opening. We rented, like, the theater for 100 bucks just for us. Yeah. I remember then they were all. I know, you and I saw, was it Christmas vacation? No, it was an elf in theater, but that I think that was, that was during.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Right. Was it during? I think, no, it was before. It was before. Okay. Oh, yeah, it was the Christmas before because I have pictures of us without masks on. Yes. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Yeah. That's cool. I honestly can't remember. There is a gentleman TV show that has been announced that's currently filming. Oh, shut up, dude. That Guy Ritchie is directing, executive producing, and writing. Vinny Jones is in it? Oh, I don't want to shock anybody.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Giancarlo Esposito is in this thing. Oh, really? God, it's good to finally see that guy getting work. He just disappeared after Breaking Bad. We never saw him again. Weird. Being sarcastic, of course, season everything. But anyway, looking at the list of what was in theaters when COVID started, there are people out there who, the last movie they saw in theaters before COVID was Katz starring James Corden.
Starting point is 01:45:09 And that is way more sad. See, there you go, way more sad than Skywalker. Starring James Corden, I love that that's who you say it was starring. It starred a lot of terrible people. They were all bad in it, but I just think it's funny. A lot of good people in a terrible movie. I wish I found him funny. I don't at all.
Starting point is 01:45:26 By the way, and I'll just answer this because somebody might write in. But only two remakes have won the Best Picture Oscar, and neither were ones that we mentioned. The Departed and Ben Hur are the only two, in the list that I found, the only two remakes that have won best picture. So the Ben Hur of course. It used to have been an ancient Ben Hur, like a silent movie? It was an ancient silent film, Ben Hur. Wow. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Infernal Affairs was unknown. Infernal Affairs was that, right, the foreign film that Departed was based on. Right. The last movie I saw was Super Pets. Super Pets. He was on the theater. It was actually not bad. It's actually pretty good.
Starting point is 01:46:05 I've heard good things about Super Pets. It's really fun. The kids loved it. I like Batman's dog. I forgot his name, but I like him. Oh, Crypto. No, no, no, I'm sorry. Batman's dog.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Yeah, he's got a dog named something. It looks like a Rottweiler. Yeah, and it's Ace, it's Ace, I think. Is it Ace? Yeah, it's Ace. Sounds right. And I think that was Ron Perlman, I think, did the voice. Do I have that right?
Starting point is 01:46:29 I don't know. I'd look it up. Anyway, nothing wrong with Super Pets, Nicole. Hold your head high on that one. All right. Well, there you have it. All of these things have been listed over there on their website. Get out of luck.com.
Starting point is 01:46:42 No, it's quicktms.com. Okay, quicktms. That's where you're going to want to go and you'll find out everything we watch today. Thank you both for hanging out with us. And I hope you have an amazing week. Thank you. No, you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:56 I'm looking at films that were released in February 2020, and I think we saw the Elizabeth Moss, Invisible Man in theaters. Might have been the last thing that we saw in theaters. How was that? Was that any good? Never saw it? No. No. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:12 You answered that so fast. Yeah. No. Okay. She was great, but it was like a, you know, Invisible Man is a horribly abusive. boyfriend and uh okay it's just like oh god this is just hard to watch hard to watch yeah she's always good but and i was not drawn to see that i felt like i imagine there was and i can't remember for sure but i'm i'm pretty sure there was a uh a shot in that film where the camera gets up
Starting point is 01:47:44 really close in uh elizabeth moss's face right at her eyes and she does that oh yeah yeah yeah that blinky thing that she does it all the time and handmade tell drives me crazy Do you think if Oliver Stone fell down a hill and Elizabeth Moss got in the way that he would gather Moss Do you think that would happen?
Starting point is 01:48:06 All right, moving on. Let's do this here ending of the show stuff that we like to do. I'd like to remind people to play retro is tonight instead of yesterday. 3.30 mountain time is when that's happening. So watch for that live show.
Starting point is 01:48:16 No DTS for me until tomorrow. So there's that whole thing. We've got Korka coming up on Thursday, but we'll talk about that tomorrow. Brian, you got anything else going on or happening or posting that people should know about. Nothing to know. Oh, I'll take that back. Yeah, we have a brand new episode of Soundography that just dropped.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Something that Hammond and I started doing last season, and we're going to do every season. But we go back and revisit all of the artists that we did on a previous season to see what they've done, what they've released since the episode that we talked about them on. It was like nine years since that first season or eight years or something. And it may be a little bit less than that, but we go back to season two and talk about, bands like well, Crosby Still's Nash and Young and I'll try to remember
Starting point is 01:49:01 who else we talked about in that season. Crosby Stills Nation Young was the one that comes to mind because we record it before David Crosby passed away the revisiting and then we released it
Starting point is 01:49:12 afterwards and of course so that doesn't talk about David Crosby passing away but that new episode is on soundography.com right now and another new episode will drop on Monday. Fantastic. Watch for that
Starting point is 01:49:25 All right, let's get out of here. Speaking of music, I know you have a little bucket there, and you just pull out of there and just do stuff. Let me grab a bucket. This one comes to us from Sean, who says, Howdy, B, and S. I know you tend to do covers for requests, but being an old-school weird owl fan,
Starting point is 01:49:42 I really get into parodies. For my 53rd orbit of our local star this Saturday, the wife and I would like to request a parody of Holiday Road. This is performed by Insane Ian. I can't be 100% sure of the artist, but it is. Yeah, it's done by Insanian. I can tell you that right now from a track that he released in 2019. But every time we hear it, we think of Scott and is perfectly justified fascination with this movie.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Yes, it's a cover of Holiday Road entitled Fury Road. Oh, enjoy. What? Lindsay Buckingham Parody right here. Going out to Sean, a cover, I'm sorry, a parody performed by Insane Ian. Oh, 53. hold on let's party welcome to the party pal as we like to say yeah joining us yeah in the 53 club woo yep there's population three let's go all right awesome i can't wait to hear
Starting point is 01:50:40 this myself i'll play it now we'll see you guys tomorrow for a brand new episode of tmish I found out from the Morton Joe I'll die historic on the Fury Road Fury Road Oh Oh Fury Road Oh
Starting point is 01:51:13 Max be mad Max be me White drives everywhere Forgous to leave Fury Road Oh Oh Yuri Road
Starting point is 01:51:34 Oh Oh Fury Road Oh Oh Fury Road Oh Uri Rosa will save the brides
Starting point is 01:52:03 While While Disney opens Max is well right Beauty Road Oh Oh Oh Beauty Road
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Starting point is 01:52:23 Oh Beauty Road Oh Oh Oh I live I live again This is. I die. I live. I die. I live again.
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