The Morning Stream - TMS 2423: How I Met Your Matcha

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

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Coming up on TMS, tower to fence your thermostat. All your memes are belong to us. Rent the CoverMobile. Don't get too excited. It's full of white people. Free roaming kid cats. If it gets the square. You must construct additional compressors. Love the book, one star.

Touch your flesh or it didn't happen. I got to a million views and I still have to poop. Take a tour to get a euro. Spaghetti flossing. Also bad up close. Every dog looks sad in their stupid cone. Lip control with Amy. America's next. top podcaster with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

Yeah, hey, everybody. This is Richard Hatch from Battlestar Galactica. Classic and Reimagined. And you're listening to The Morning Stream. Oh, good, you bullied up, brisket. This is the morning stream asking, Do dogs have brains? Because I really want to know.

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's Thursday, February 16th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Taryn's Center Square. It's Brian Abbott. Yeah. We were, look, if you're a patron, you would have heard us talk a bunch about Hollywood squares and what it would take to make a new one. And don't you wish you could be in that conversation? So be a patron. And you can be in there and you can talk. You can hear us. us talk about that. It's exciting stuff. Make it happen with all frog pants stars. How fun would that be? Oh my gosh imagine. Just imagine. Anyway, hey, it's nice to see you all. Hope you're all well.

Yesterday I kind of made it, not an error, but people wanted an update on Rainer's condition. And I did it in the pre-show. So a lot of people didn't hear about what was going on. She was in surgery when we did the show yesterday. So that had started around eight and then

or nine, I guess. Anyway, uh she got home late afternoon about two o'clock in the afternoon here's a pitcher uh chat room of her current uh state she's all shaved up on the leg where the tumor was and she looks very sad in her stupid cone um anyway she uh kind of whined all night did not have the best night's sleep uh she's she's in some pain she's on these meds that will help with that and stuff but she just hates the cone and she can't stand being you know trapped like this a little bit um but she's okay and the good news is um the blood work came back and showed no spread of cancer to the blood which is common with this kind of cancer and that didn't happen and also they think it was isolated to the tumor

they sent the tumor to the lab for uh to double check and just make sure i don't know what it actually tells them but they'll tell us today or tomorrow what that means um and her uh her panel came back clean what else was there they did oh no no thyroid stuff like they had a few other fears that they thought were tied to this. And so far, it looks like it might just be the tumor and we're done. Wow. That'd be amazing. If they get, basically, if they get good margins, then that's the deal, right?

Like, if they get good margins around the tumor and they can see that there's non-cancerous cells around in the plus four pixel padding around the tumor. The bleed area is that we're talking about. The bleed, exactly. Yes. Like, you know, we can do this as HTML. We could do it as CSS. We could do it as print. We know the colors that we paint. Yeah. Give me your CYMK. We'll get it all taken care of it. Exactly. But yeah, she's good. And other than her being just kind of sad and miserable from it, she's, you know, she's in good shape. So anyway, thanks everybody for all your nice thoughts. It was very, very expensive. Yeah, I'm sure. That kind of stuff is, ain't cheap. I feel like I, I don't know. Maybe I need a lift now. It's time to lift. I'll send you my details. I'll refer you. Oh, we'll do a referral.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually, because I went for so long without a car and I figured out like, you know, oh, you know, there's so much stuff that I walk to and that I can get away with. And I've actually been looking at Turo, which is a, like, basically you become a rental car company, right? So you rent out your car to people coming to 10. Oh, they actually take the car like an Airbnb, but a car. Exactly. It's like Airbnb with cars.

And I gave a guy a lift the other day, and he basically picked him up from the airport, and all he was carrying was the thing you put in the back of the car that you pull over to create shade. I guess just call it a cargo shade cover thing, whatever. Sure. And I said, boy, you travel light, a little joke. And he's like, oh, yeah. No, I just dropped off a car for a, you know, I do Turo, and I dropped off a car for a client or customer, and now you're just giving me a ride back to my house.

And the whole ride, we're talking about, like, he's explaining he started with one car, his own car, because he worked from home and he didn't use the car as much anymore. And the money he made on that, he now has three Teslas that he rents out and a, like a Dodge Char. or something like that. Wow. He's turned it into a little business. He started doing it in freaking October, and he's already started making enough to do that. That's wild to me.

Yes. I guess if you don't, if you go all in like that, then it makes sense. Like, if it's your only car and, you know, I mean, there's some risks there, right? But if you have a plan like that. You have a plan. And what's cool about it is, like, you know, you basically put your car up there, and then somebody says, oh, I'd like to rent your car. here are the dates and you you get to approve or deny it before they complete the purchase so basically

it's you're saying oh you know it turns out i actually might need a wednesday so i'm going to say no sorry or whatever so you're you know it's not like it's they're going to rent it out from underneath you're like oh crap now i need a car to get to do blah blah blah right you got to schedule it or whatever so so do you okay so you have to take it to them it sounds like the The guy had to take the car. Not always. Like, there's, I've looked, this is so, this is crazy. So he does that.

Well, basically they pay to have him do that, right? So if you want to rent the car, great, it's this amount. But then you have to get from the airport to my house. Now, for $120, I'll deliver it to the airport so that it's waiting for you when you arrive. Oh. And, and for me, that's a really easy light rail ride because I can, I can drive the car out there. Turn the keys over and then take the light rail back to, you know, the two miles from my house, basically. So how does it work with insurance and stuff?

Is that, like, a weird, they actually, Toro actually does the insurance and like, it's some ridiculous $750,000 coverage for, you know, and they only take between 15% and 25% of your, of what you rent it for. This is kind of rad. I like this. It is really rad. I know. I'm almost afraid to tell people because it's like, wait, I want to get in on this before a lot of people do it. But so here's the funny thing. If I get this thing going, people come to Colorado. We get, I get messages from folks who are like, hey, I'm coming to Colorado. What kinds of things should I, you know, check out restaurant-wise or Red Rocks or that sort of thing?

Now they can actually rent the covermobile. Yeah, you can rent Brian's car to go see all that stuff. Red Brian's car comes complete with a USB stick in the, uh, you know, And the auxiliary slot full of covers. Yeah. And he'll come by and, you know, you'll see him because if you pay the amount to have it delivered, you'll have him there. Exactly, yes. Oh, man.

We'll have it, well, we won't have a drink because I don't want you to drink before you drive my car. No, no. Only Brian gets to do that, you guys. Exactly, because I'm taking the light rail people. So I get to drink. You could have a nice iced tea, but I'll pay for it. That's great. That's actually very, I didn't know about these guys.

This Turro thing's new to me. That's cool. It's really cool. Because it came up, like, a lot of cars, rental car places, were massively expensive during the pandemic. Car demand was high. Rental car companies had to sell off their stock. So the cars that they did keep went, you know, $200 a day rental. And so the ride share model just kind of extended over into rental cars and, like, kind of worked.

That's kind of cool. that must make you know hurts and everybody a little nervous they could disrupt their business the way that taxi stuff got disrupted by lift and Uber yeah for sure and if you're if you're saying you know I kind of want a Tesla but I don't want to go to a dealership and have to deal with all that stuff I know I'll just rent a Tesla for a day from somebody on Toro and then I can try it and see how I think about it and yeah you got plans anyway you're going to rent something anyway why not rent that then you've had a a test drive and a good time and a good price like exactly yeah i assume that's the other thing i assume the prices are comparable at least or less than it would cost you to get a hertz or a freaking way way less like um abyss or whatever uh yeah like the when i was doing some comparisons that somebody else has a kia soul um uh not as decked out as mine on there for 60 bucks a day not including unlimited miles i mean you know there's so many things that get tacked on to that So $60 a day.

And right now to get a comparable car, again, you're going to get something that's a lot newer model, newer year, is $80 to $100 a day still on Lake Avis and Hertz and stuff like that. So comparable, or at the very least, you should have that on your list to check out. Yeah, it depends, I guess, where you're going. And they're probably, I can go any state and do this, probably. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's interesting. I'm going to tell him about it. Yeah. I was thinking about it for Vegas, not this trip, but a couple trips ago.

And then also in Anaheim, because it's like, oh, this actually might be cheaper than actually taking a lift from the airport, which seems like it's really close, but is so far away from downtown Anaheim. Freak and sprawl in California is real, man. It's real. It really is, yeah. It's crazy. It's not my favorite thing in the world. Well, anyway, that's cool. I had no idea. That was a thing. Very red. All right.

You guys, I got a call to play from a listener. Yeah, let's hear it. This is not some AI fake call, all right? This is real. It's an actual person. Sure. I'm questioning everything. I know.

I feel like we've set everybody up yesterday to always question where this audio is coming from. But I promise you, this is just a regular old-ass call at a regular old-ass number, which is 801-471-0-462. And this was sent in talking about numbers and stuff. So here you go. Hey, Scott and Brian. It's Luke from Boulder calling for TMS, and I just want to let you know that I listen to a few podcasts that have, like, calling lines. And I've been known to leave a voice similar to you, like I'm doing right now. But the funny thing is that somehow your default plan off has leaking my brain.

And I've been signing off without messages that I leave for other podcasts with the phrase, love the show, though. And that doesn't make me an internet. But my brain just goes there. So thank you. And you're welcome. Love the show though. That's awesome. awesome dude oh it's great because i can imagine like somebody you know one of these other podcasts that

doesn't know that phrase be like what a jerk love the show though like yeah you know what this tells me that tells me we are dominant in his mind and that's what matters yes that is what matters yes exactly we don't mind that you have other shows to listen to we don't mind that podcasting is a is a thick field of competition and a lot of people are vying for your ear time but we like that our stupid memes are foremost in your mind for sure yes so please more of that We also got one here about, oh, heating and cooling. This is a good one. Check this out.

Hey, this is Jeff Geronnenberg, formerly from Colorado, now from Vegas for like the third time. It's kind of a long story. But anyway, I was just listening to your guys' tangent after the dad who had the thermos tat rode in, which, by the way, what a way to commit to the bit, right? Like, I thought I was pretty good at dad jokes, but like literally tattooing the dad joke on your body. Like, mad respect. Sorry, yeah, ADHD is real. Anyway, so you guys went on a tangent talking about how, like, you set the thermostat to 72 versus 80,

and it just has to maintain once it gets there, right? And that's, like, kind of true, right? Like, pulling the energy out of your house, one degree is usually the same at 72 versus 80, because, I mean, disregarding thermo efficiency. Anyway, so, but the thing is, like, second rule of thermodynamics, right? cheat always goes from hot into cold, so if you've got, like, a window open and the cold air doesn't go out, right, hot air comes in. So to kind of think about, like, hot air is being like the zerg, right? And you think out, like, a bunch of zerglings rushing your base, but the

good news is that you're a smart protos player, so you put a bunch of photon cannons in there. It's kind of like your AC. Well, the more zirglings are coming in, right? Those photon can't shoot a lot to protect your base. So if you think about a ton of energy coming in, it means your AC has to run more often, right? The cycles happen more often, whereas if there's only like trickling observings coming in, then your photon can barely have to shoot at all, which is kind of like running less often. So the time to go down one degree is about the same, but the number of times in a day it has to do that goes up the hotter it is outside.

Anyway, sorry, guys, it's kind of a crazy analogy. I know Scott Lake's analogies, though. Maybe that's useful or not. I don't know, but yeah, I heard it, and the dude could not abide. And there you go. Cheers. All right. That's awesome.

I love it. And it's a fine analogy. Look, more Zerg means more power means you got to shoot more. I totally get it. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Way easier to just, you know, it makes perfect sense.

Way easier to tower defense a little trickle of enemies than a big mad rush. We've all seen that Facebook advertisement of the war game that none of us are ever going to download because of the micro-transactions. But we know how it works. No, we know. exactly what's up there. No, that's cool. I hadn't really thought of it that way. So basically, it both proves and disproves my point about whether it's 80 or 72, it doesn't

matter. There's issues of efficiency and also the rate at which heat is trying to penetrate your home later in the afternoon at higher temperatures than it would at lower temperatures. So maybe Kim's got a point. I don't know. I don't like to concede, but I'll look further. All right. Concession, not.

no concession yet give me time on this give me time but uh yeah no i want uh i want to have a drink with that guy in Vegas and after i've had at least one drink with him then he can tell me the long story of why he's in Vegas and not Colorado because yeah and multiple times or whatever he was saying some kind of weird right multiple times yeah but i need i need one drink in me first but then i want to i want to hear why why you're in Vegas because i'm sure he's got to be coming to tms Vegas if he lives there i hope so he didn't say but i really hope so no reason not like we're We are in your base. We have infiltrated your base.

Yeah. The Zerg has overtaken your command center. What are you going to do now? I'm having dinner, by the way, with Bernadette tonight. So, Bernadette from the plaza. Lovely. If you have any questions for me to ask her, please let me know. I already have a list of like, all right, what about this?

How about this? Can we do this? What about this? Yeah. And she's always good, so we'll find out. That's right. But don't, don't ask me to ask her for more stuff. No.

No. Personal hot tubs in every room. Not going to happen. That's right. Can we get a rooftop bar just for us? You guys, I'm so excited about the swag. I just got proofs back for part of it. I don't want to give away what it is yet, but man, it's going to be good this year.

The stuff I've seen you show me already, I'm excited about. I know. I'll show you that. I've got a proof for a thing today that's, you have to do a little visualization to see how it would finally look because of what it is. But you'll get it because you've done this before. you'll understand. Oh, yeah. All right.

We're going to do this now. Much of foodie. We're going to do a foodie thing that we haven't done in a very long time. In our hands, we have a wee box of Kit Katz, fancy ones sent to us by September, one of our favorite months, September. And these are mysteries because they're super Japanese

and have no English indication whatsoever. Nope. Now, the green one, at least I know I've had before, and I know this flavor so we could do that one first but I don't know if you remember what this flavor is so I'm excited about the brown

this one right this we have the exact same ones we do okay okay let's do the green one first then so you've had this before it's familiar to me because this good job thumbs up thing on the back is familiar

yeah well they all have that it's like oh congratulations you've opened the package kind of thing it's funny it's got Facebook Twitter and Instagram logos and then I assume that those Japanese

characters are the account they're on so it's Japanese account for those services but anyway might be or might just be you know find us on we're just called Kit Kat yeah we're just Kit Kat. That's a good point I bet they are yeah at least they try to be somewhere else somewhere they had to be

Kit Kat 21 or something because someone took it but yeah all right here we go these are green that I remember these are very green so I'm guessing some sort of macha business I can only taste these because I'm not supposed to eat sugar Oh, so you're going to taste it and spit it out? No, I'll just take a little corner of it. I just won't finish it.

Yeah, there's two in the things, so. All right, here we go. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's like macha, right? Totally macha. You met your macha. I met my... At the time I met your macha.

It's not bad. Isn't they doing a new series about the dad or something? I already did it. Oh, was that done? I don't know if it's done, but it's done. It was the first season already came out. And I didn't hear enough good things about it to decide to watch it. Did, uh, the only actor came back was, um, uh, punky brute, not punky Brewster.

What's his name? You think he was name? Uh, Daniel, Patrick, Patrick Daniel. Oh, Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah. He came back, right? Duggy, Brewster. Duggy Brewster.

Old Duggy Brewster. I used to love that show. Okay, so then this other one looks like a cream, creamy thing. Yeah, and so September sent me a picture of the bag, and I see the picture that's on there, and so I'm very curious about what this is going to taste like. Yeah, I'm going to guess. Look at you.

Did you, like, cut your thing open with scissors? Look at you in that way you open. It's very precision, right? It is. It's like a... Almost like a commercial, but it just kind of happened. Yeah, it's so that you can just have a bite, push it back into its little bag.

Yeah, like a little cigarette box, you know? Yeah, so there's the... Let's see yours, hold on. So Brian's got the full unit. There it is. Yeah, I mean the full unit. Yep, the full unit. I'm going to say the other one in the bag for Tina probably.

I'm smelling it. I'm getting a white chocolate vibe, but that doesn't mean anything with these. Hmm. Okay, I don't know what to call that. It's a very subtle flavor, very, very light flavor. Not very sweet. And what is that? so based on the bag

yeah wow it is uh it like i'm not getting at all what this is they're wheat crackers like um really not like ritz but like circular yeah i can probably copy this image and paste it in our chat well not that you say that i am getting kind of uh kind of a little wheat uh like a whole wheat kind of vibe huh yeah I like that one

uploading a 29.5 megabyte file for you to look at yeah like Breton Britten crackers Breton are those a thing I don't know if that is oh I do know what those are yes totally like somebody slipped that inside

of some white chocolate or something yeah it's very but it's a very subtle flavor and I'd still get more sweetness than anything else I was expecting a savory cracker They're a savory Kit Kat based on the... Oh, that's 100%. These are the crackers I was thinking of, too.

This is 100% what I thought it was. Yeah. It's a big file. It is, yeah. It's a nice thing about being a... What do they call it? Nitro user? They let you up with huge files.

No, there's no way. Yeah, I'd have to like, let me open this up in Photoshop and save a JPEG. It's 100, 200 pixels wide. It's so funny how I'm perfectly willing to spend 10 bucks on all these boosts and quirks for Discord. and I refuse to spend eight bucks on Twitter. I will never do it.

I'll never do it. He's never getting it from it. I am so 100% with you. I have no, I need to make no apology for that, for feeling like that. Well, first of all, there's nothing, there's no benefits in there currently that I need or want. Yeah.

That's number one. So you're not giving me value for the dollar. And the value is definitely not retaining a blue check mark that I had to pay for. Right. So that's just, that's all stupid. You got to have a reason there, musky boy. All right. Well, thank you, September.

These are awesome. Yeah, these are great. I will save the rest of them for the boy I blamed for taking them who didn't actually take them. Yes. And I will apologize to him in advance and say, Nick, I'd be smirched you before I knew the truth. It just did seem like something. If I was going to have it out, he might do that. You know?

Because he's sure. He likes the chocolate. And he would have said, oh, these are just loose and laying here. And Kim runs a generous house. where everything is, hey, do you need something? Here, here, take it. That's how we do it. I feel like we're like that for Tristan, but I'd still like, hold on, check with me

before you just eat the, if there's something that's one of kind. If there's a bowlful of these, Tristan will come in, he'll help them. Exactly. Exactly. You're absolutely right. So had he done it, I would have had words. Since I just blamed him without any evidence, now I'm the one that I kind of have to work on. But anyway, Catcats and September, they go together like a great month and some chocolate.

So thank you. For sure. September. That was very nice of you. All right. We are going to, oh, we got a hurry too, because we don't have a ton of time. Yeah, we got Amy here. Yeah, let's get Amy in here. We're going to do a little read this for your Thursday. And then maybe some news time. And then we got windy later. It's a lot. It's a lot we got today. So let's get to it here by playing this. Well, if you've missed her like we have, because we didn't have a show last Thursday, then you'll be happy to know that Amy's back. Amy, a.k.a. Redfragel, here to talk about books and why you should read them. Amy, welcome back.

Oh, good morning, friends. How is everybody this morning? Good. Is that horrible cold gone? Are you done? I mean, the dregs of it are still hanging on. I still sounded like this when I first got up this morning, you know? I'm sorry.

But, you know, you get a good. A shot of Flonais up in there. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, as you feel better. A little snoot in a toot. Yeah. The Flonase, the one they say you shouldn't do too often because it's, you're, you're, you're, you become not addicted, but you become dependent or something or your nose.

Yes. Yeah, that's what I actually learned that from Dan, um, when he talked about it on the show a while back ago. That's right. Um, and yeah, I don't, I don't use Flonais every day. I used to, um, because I live with dogs and I'm actually a little. to them, but I love them so much. Well, I think the clarification, the clarification was interesting because my assumption when he said that was, oh, well, are there junkies just sitting around horking Flonais

somehow? And he's like, no, the way it works is they, the dependence is your systems of like the way your nose behaves, we'll get used to having that stuff in there and then we'll start reacting differently. It's kind of like if you soak in water every day and then suddenly we're putting a desert for a month. Your skin would have a hard time. Well, the best comparison is if you take like to go to bed, you take those, what is, melatonin every night. Your body stops producing it naturally. And so you, you know, basically you're turning off your body's ability. You depend on it.

Oh, right. Because your body's like, oh, you're making it? I don't need to. Okay. Right. Exactly. I'll go spend my time preparing terrible dreams or whatever it does when it's not making that amazing. He says that Flonase is fine. It's not the one. It's not like Afrin. Ephron is the bad one. That's Flonase is the, oh, maybe Flonase is just the, because the saline ones are good. Maybe Flonase is just that.

It might be, yeah. All right. Well, Bobby. Yeah, I'm having to use saline pretty regularly now because I pierced my nose. And, you know, like you clean that with saline, you know, a piercing. It's kind of hard to get up in your nose unless you have like some saline. spray, so I'm horking that. You know what I picture? Here's what I

picture, whether it's the one that goes through the nose, like through each nostril, like a cross, like a bone, like old school bone, or a bar, or if it's the little ring on the nostril flesh, either way, I picture you guys taking a little floss and, like, putting it in there and just going,

oh, no, oh, God, all right, thank you for, thank you for those goosebumps. That's not the way you like to get goosebumps, but you'll take it in a pen. I used to know a kid who did that, like in middle school. You know, you always had a kid who could like, you know, put spaghetti up his nose and then it would come out his mouth and then he'd go, you know, like. Oh, yeah.

Did you guys ever know that person? No. Well, we know him as Brian Brushwood, but that's about it. Oh, right. Still don't know how he does that trick, but. I had to sit next to him with like, I had to sit within like four inches of the dude while he did that. That was horrendous. You and me both.

It was like, okay. I never need to see that ever again. Yeah. And I thought, well, if I'm close up, I'll see the trick and I'll go, oh, this is what he's doing. Nope. It looks as bad up close as it does far away. It's disgusting. Exactly.

Yeah. Anyway, let's look to some books. I want to real quick talk about one thing. Okay. And I promise I won't take a long time. But I was going to do a whole thing, but I heard you say we got to get moving because we got a long Wendy today and all that. So I'm just going to say.

There's been, I've seen a lot of people like directing a lot of angry responses to things lately. And, you know, Scott, like you sent me that one, the guy was angry about the last Wendy segment. And then I saw this morning, several people like angry about Dan's segment the other day. And I just want to, I'm not going to talk about any of those actual things. I just want to kind of encourage people that these. Guys, these hosts, Brian and Scott, and frankly, all, you know, all as I, as a fan turned guest, I am the same way. If, if you want to correct us, we're totally down for that. Like, hey, we had a blind spot.

We didn't see. Like, this thing we said was hurtful or was incorrect or whatever. We're like, I know I speak for myself and I know this from listening to you guys. for years. Nobody on this show is like, I'm always right. It's great. No, we don't dig in. We'll always, you know, not only admit when we're wrong, but we'll also always open for a conversation. If you've got an issue, whatever it is, just tell us. You don't have to assume that there's a fight every time. Like, there isn't one. There's never one, in fact. We're just people like you and we're not perfect. If you're coming on here expecting perfection four days a week,

well, I got bad news for you. You're not going to get that. But what you will get is a willingness to come to the table and discuss these things. Always. There's never a time where either me or Brian or anybody who comes on here is ever just going to go, nope, that's it. F off. We're not talking to you. Unless you're a complete douchebag and it's obvious to everybody involved, then you might get that treatment. But if you have an actual point and you want to make it, I'm happy to be wrong once in a while. I'd love getting told. I love it when I, yeah, and I don't have a problem saying when I did some wrong. The thing that cracks me up is the people who are like, if you keep saying this, you've lost me as a listener. And to me, I'm like, okay, person who says that, yeah, bye. I'm happy for you to leave. Like, if you come out of the gate saying that, whereas that versus, hey, this thing that you said actually impacted me this way. I'm sure it's not what you intended, but it impacted me. this way. You guys are going to receive that much differently. And, you know, so if your aim is

to be, be mad, okay, fine, whatever. But if your aim is to actually change a mind or change a behavior, it's much better to just lean in and say, hey, you hurt me. Like, this thing that was said on your show hurt me. Yeah. And can you address it, please? And so anyway, I just want to open to that every time. I'm glad you brought it up because there is a bit of that going on. There's a lot of negativity right now. And the internet's a hard place. And we know all. this but um i think i think it's just easy to assume that all outputs of media are a little faceless and you know there aren't real people behind the mic sometimes i think it's easy to get into that headspace um but we don't do that yeah we're not that so you know it's hard for me to speak

for everybody i work with but i know at least for brian and i we're not we're not in it for that we're in it for these are real we know you guys are real people and hopefully you know we're real people and even though we're on this side of the mic we don't we don't assume some sort of extra power from that so if we have said something that is just like flat out wrong like i've been corrected eight times in the chat today already that's great it's great that's what we want so come to us and talk to us and oftentimes we'll reach out to you because we'll see somebody in the chat that has a bit of a flame hour like oh crap i think i maybe worded that wrong and i'll reach out to them and try to try to connect usually that works sometimes they just want to be mad to be mad and that's you're

right it's fine but you know don't come in here assuming we're just you know dick's looking for dick moves right making dick moves making dick moves yo all right uh let's get to reading what are we reading that's enough of that i have a book i'm going to read to you guys not because i didn't like the audiobook narrator for it. I just didn't like the passage that they chose. So I'm going to, I'm going to pick my own. And I'm going to read it to you guys. I know you guys love when I do this. Sure. This is AI, though, right? It's not really Amy. Oh, yeah. I totally pre-recorded the Senate to Scott, all that. It's Amy Intelligence is what it is. Oh, that'll be hard to find. Okay. So here we go. I'm afraid I don't understand a lot of the words

you use anti-mame? Oh, child, child, she cried with her feathery sleeves fluttered wildly across the bed. What can be done about your vocabulary? Didn't your father ever talk to you? Hardly ever. My dear, a rich vocabulary is the true hallmark of every intellectual person. Here now, she burrowed into the mess on her bedside table and brought forth another pad and pencil. Every time you hear a word that you don't understand. You write it down and I'll tell you what it means. Then you memorize it and soon you'll have a decent vocabulary. Oh, the adventure of molding a new little life. She made another sweeping gesture that somehow went wrong because she knocked over the coffee pot and I immediately wrote down six new words which Auntie Mame said to scratch out and forget about. God knows you can learn more in 10 minutes in

my drawing room than you did in 10 years with that father of yours. What a criminal way to raise a child. she looked at her watch and fluttered her feathers good heavens i've got to do some shopping with vera perhaps you'd like to come along she looked at me in my suit of lightweight morning for god's sake child haven't you got some clothes that don't make you look like a sick crow i said i had well put them on if you're coming with me and don't forget your vocabulary pad by the way child yes auntie maine did your father ever say anything that is tell you anything about me before he died he only said that you were a very peculiar woman and to be left in your hands was a fate he wouldn't wish on a dog but beggars can't be choosers and you're my only living relative that bastard she said evenly I reached for my vocabulary pad that word dear was bastard

it spelled B-A-S-T-A-R-D and it means your late father wow nice energetic on this one i like this one a lot this is a good read oh thank you anti-name so the character sounds from i mean this isn't this is this is a really old book because i it is it is a really old book um it the name of the book is auntie maim an irreverent adventure by patrick dennis and it was made into a film it was made into a musical which is dreadful. But the film with Rosalind Russell,

don't ever watch the one with Lucille Ball. Just don't. Just don't. Wow. Okay. Don't watch it. It's, I know, I love Lucille Ball.

I love, ah, what's his name? The guy that did the music man. Oh, yes. Chat helped me. Victor Victoria. Robert Preston, maybe. Preston.

Yes, I think that's right. Yeah. So, yeah. I love him. him. I love Lucille Ball, but the freaking, the one called MAME. Yes, the guy in the last Starfighter, Dice Tomato. Yes, that guy. And to find the right connection to the, you know, to the, to the chat room, to the. Yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah. That one is dreadful. If you watch the one with Rosalind Russell,

it's glorious. And so this is kind of a film slash book recommendation. But the film was based on the book and it's by Patrick Dennis. It's a novel. And it's, it takes place in like, you know, the roaring 20s. And so she's got bootleggers. She's got cocktail parties and whatnot. And this little boy who's 10 years old is orphaned. And she is his only living relative. And so he goes to live with her. And she is just irreverently bombastic. And she, um, so what made me want to do this book was, I think it was last week. Scott, you did the little movie quote quiz for Brian. And one of the quotes you guys both sort of blanked on because neither one of you knew it was life is a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death. Oh yeah. Yeah. So that is

that is basically the theme of Auntie Maim. And it is, it's glorious. And it was one of my favorite films growing up my mom and I quoted all the time I don't like I've ever seen it or I don't even think I've seen a scene from it I don't know why I'm so not in that world it's fantastic I absolutely and Scott you would let it because like I say it takes place in the 20s so it's got that

and it was filmed in the you know 50s and 60s so it's got that very sort of technicolor feel to it and everything is over the top and everything is ridiculous and I do love that style or whatever that is.

I don't even know what you call that, but that way of talking, that whole era is always infinitely fascinating to me. Oh, yeah. It's great. And I thought about, I thought about clipping the trailer,

but the trailer is very like, I don't know. It's, it didn't, it wouldn't play very well without the visuals, I think, but it's, it's great.

So I love everything about it. It's a quick little read as far as a book. It's only like, let me see. 250 pages and it's it's great it's essentially this kid who was growing up in a very you know well-to-do very conservative household where you know he had a nanny and his dad really only talked to him at breakfast where he mostly told the kid to pipe down because he was hung over and he would say pipe down kid the old man's hung you know uh so you know that he went

from that, but, you know, very stuffy and, you know, I'm looking down my nose at other people to Auntie Mame, who is just, you know, she's just absolutely flamboyant. And I, I love everything about it. And she teaches him sort of to open his eyes to how other people live and stuff. Yeah, there are some, there's some bad reviews on it, I guess. No, no, no. The reason I'm bringing this video up is this always ends up happening. I'm like, who gave this one star? So I go and look. It's people who don't know how to click. So it says like this person right here, Janet, does this review. I was so glad to see this book in my Kindle. I have all the Patrick Dennis books. And I just love them. And I was so sorry in the 70s when he died. And no final book worth coming. Love the intro to this book. I don't consider any of his books outdated. One star. What are you doing? What is a perfect review. Because I'm mad that there aren't more books by him because he died.

Right. How dare he die? A star for Patrick Russell's death. Yeah. The other one in here is that... A whatnot has a great... Oh, I'm sorry. No, I was just going to say, the other one in here says, here's the review. One star.

The entire Kindle book is underlined. I don't know why. That's the whole review. That's not a review of a book. That's a technical problem. You got to deal with at a Kindle level. What are you doing? Yeah.

All right. Yeah. Sadly, not available to stream for, for quote, quote, free anywhere, but it's cheap to rent anywhere you want to look. The Rosalind Russell, Russell movie, by the way. 249 to rent just about everywhere, or $2.99, Apple TV, voodoo. A whatnot had a great idea in the chat. Maybe it's a good adventure club.

Oh, that'd be fun. We could do that. Yeah, I just, the reason I have never seen it, I think, is because I honestly have just never even heard of it. I try to, like, expose myself to older stuff with films and things here and there. Like, you know, why, you know, Maltese Falcon or freaking whatever. I like that era, and I usually have heard of this. I've never even, I mean, I'll admit, I never even heard of this until today. So I feel like in the dark.

It's great. I mean, the message of the book is very like, it was progressive for its time. Now, you know, don't get too excited. There's, you know, it's full of white people. And, like, it's not, it doesn't have a lot of really heavy messages. But it does turn its nose up at, uh, New England snobbery and, you know, the, and a lot of anti-Semitism as well, because there's a, there's a scene in there where there's this other family who's like, they're trying to buy up a lot of property, uh, because potentially the people who are also bidding on the property are Jewish. Oh, my gosh.

Zing a ding-a-ding-dong. Auntie maim is like, you know, oh, well, I'll take care of that. And so she buys the property. and donates it to them to make, I don't want to give it away. But anyway, Auntie Maim does a fabulous thing that makes these people just clutch their pearls and it's wonderful. Well, I love.

Yeah, that is iconic right there. That image, that's who she is. Yeah, that's awesome. All right, well, I'm going to seek out both the book and the movie. So you guys should do that as well. Real quick, you got a little bonus link here today. I do.

A little bit of a bill move. Yeah, I like it. still, yeah, I figured I would steal Bill's bit and have a bonus link for you. So you guys mostly all know that my husband Chuck and I, on the side, we own a little small business called Peepers Puppets, where we make little small handheld puppets and sell them. And so this past weekend, we sponsored a workshop with this guy, Carl Herlinger, who is a classically trained ventriloquist, but also just a wonderful performer and puppeteer. And so I figured I would give him a little shout out. And also, if you look at some of his videos, if you kind of scroll down a little bit,

you can see, like, I do very simple things with the peepers. And they're fun for kids. They're really easy to use. But you can also see, like, you're not limited to what you can do. Like, this guy made an entire puppet around a pair of peepers and it's like you know it looks like this grumpy old man wearing a wearing a little red cardigan sweater and he's great and it really shows you know what you can do with a simple idea and a lot of imagination this guy is into puppetry boy howdy look at his channel go oh yeah oh yeah well and his ventriloquism is fantastic you can see like he's making these really close-up videos, and his lip control is on point. Like, you can't see anything.

I like the lip control. Yeah, lip control. Right. Apparently, that's what you call it. We actually took his ventriloquism workshop just for fun over the weekend, and that's what it's called. They really call it lip control? L.C.

How's your L.C? Good old L.C. Yeah, take a look at that. All right. Well, this is great as well. So go check that out. Amy, always a pleasure having you on the show. I hope next week we'll have something else to read.

That would be fantastic as well. I'm sure we will. Anything else you want to mention before we send you off into the Wild West? Just come to Vegas and be nice to everybody, guys. Be kind. We're like a kindness wave in Vegas. We come in there and the whole place doesn't even know what to do with us. That's what you ask that plaza lady, she'll be like, oh my gosh, you're too nice.

You know? There's no, there's no niceness in Vegas. Get out of here. Meadness in Vegas. That's right. Who are you with this stuff? We could be like those German businessmen that trashed the place every year. But no, we don't.

We don't do it. Amy, have a grand old week, and we'll see you next week. Have a fun one. You too. Bye. Bye. All right. We are going to take a break when we return from said break.

My sister Wendy will be here. And she'll have a lot to say about an email we got that I did have an AI read because it sounded really good. Okay. Okay. They're much better. not in our voice. I didn't use me or Brian or anything like that,

but I used another sort of nondescript person, and it sounded great. So anyway, that's all coming up after this break, but Brian, we can't take a break until you tell me what song we're breaking with. Well, you know how you and I both love the electronic music that's just kind of driven,

that's just kind of straight ahead. It kind of keeps you mode. No lyrics to get distracted by, put this on while you're working on something, and bam, time flies and your work is dead. Done, this kind of thing. Love it. This guy named James Chapman, who performs under the name MAPS, has a brand new album called Counter Melodies.

Mute Records supplying this one, big thanks to Mute Records. Love when they send me something because, I mean, these are the guys who had Depeche Mode back in the early days. And like a book of love and, oh, my gosh. Figures on a beach. That's awesome. Mute Records is fantastic. I hear they got a new album, by the way, Depeche Mode, that's supposed to be killer. Really?

Oh, I haven't heard it. Yeah, I haven't heard it either, but I'm curious about that. Anyway, sorry, remind me of that. Anyway, James Chapman, brand new, under the name MAPS, has a brand new album called Counter Melodies. Here is the first song from it, or the single from it. It's called Witchy Feel. This is so good. Enjoy it.

Here's Witchy Feel by Maps. Thank you. So, We're going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

be the I'm a new the I'm going to We're going to be able to be. We're going to be. We're going to be.

I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be. We're going to be able to be. You're going to be. We're going to be able to do.

Playing hockey is no different than any other sport. To be a good student of the game, you must know the fundamentals. Play the game as often as you can. But even when you can't, there are other preparations you can make. But I'll deal with them later. Remember, the puck stops here. I don't mind tentacles. stream. No Dix here.

And we've returned. Hey, I need to write down that song. What was that again? Sure. Get your pencil out and write down the words, witchy feel. That's the name of the song by the band Mapps. Brand new album called Counter Melodies. And the whole thing is as good as what you just heard. Damn. That's a, that's high praise from Brian. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. This is a guy. Well deserved. This is a guy listens to a lot. a lot of music every day. And he knows the difference between trash and quality. I know.

Good quality music would I hear. That's right. Well, let's see if we can get some good quality therapy. With my sister Wendy, Wendy Dunford. She is a qualified therapist who helps people all the time with real problems. And she comes on here on Thursdays and helps you with some of yours. Wendy, welcome back to the show. Yeah, thanks.

It's been a bit. It's been a little time since we've had kids. It has. I wasn't here last week, so that was a bit of a bummer. But I was thinking about you today because Raquel Welch died and she's mom's age. Oh. And that weirded me out because in my head, I mean, she's a bombshell for a different era, right? Like, she's not really my generation of that.

But I always knew about her and she would guest star on a million things and she was on Seinfeld for a pretty funny episode. Oh, yeah. Right. And everybody's seen that poster of the first. bikini from 10,000 BC and right and that that was on the wall or you know that was in shashank and right you know like she's got this this heritage around her and it just never occurred to me that this human being that is Raquel Welch is just just my mom you know just my word that she not that she could die because I know everybody could die but whenever somebody is my mom's age

like an actor or something always throws me I don't know why he just like wait you're this you're as old as my mom is that's freaking weird I don't know It's a weird little side feeling that I had. But anyway. So you thought of me because Raquel Reldstoy. Well, and that and that obviously real audio that I said you the other day of you saying you liked it. Here's the thing about that. What is so obviously not me is how chipper I am in that.

Yeah, you're stoked. So everybody here thinks it sounds. You often sound chipper. What are you talking about? It sounded so weirdly chipper. Like, no one didn't think that was me. well here let's play it again see how chipper it sounds hi i'm wendy dunford and i loved it when my brother chased me around with what i thought was a hot soldering iron turned out it wasn't but

what a great time that was isn't that weird how it inflicted i never say any of those words except for i did you did you never said them like i made that sentence up and all i had to do is do a little bit of a 10 second clip of you on tms just talking about something it wasn't even anything particular and it trained your voice and And now there is a voice that will say anything I tell it to say in your voice. Isn't that weird? So I need to understand how any of the world is going to work after this. I know, dude.

I know. I think Wendy's one of those people we need to add the list. Need consent before making her say anything else. Oh, yeah. Dude, no, trust me, I don't even dare do that with her in particular. But here's the thing. Like, you're not wrong, Wendy. Some people have said to me, well, this is how we felt about.

Photoshop. It's not quite the same. Quite the same. It's not the same. It's new level. If it's a close at all, it's a new level of that and it's a much harder level to assess through. Every time we come up with a pix or it didn't happen, the thing gets raised a little bit. Okay, video or it didn't happen.

Audio or it didn't happen. Like it's in person touching your flesh or it didn't happen. Yeah, I was there and witnessed it firsthand or it didn't happen. There you go. And even then, we know you're wrong most of the things. time when you witness things that happens that's right that's right that's right humans are very bad at telling like eyewitness testimony is not great like yeah it's a weird we're it's I don't want to get to doom and gloom about it but it is a strange new thing right and I don't know that

humans are ready for it but we'll see yeah no we've got a couple other things to solve first but that's never how technology's worked no no no no solve anything first no don't solve something first just add more you're absolutely right All right, well, speaking of a cool gadget, I actually used an AI to read today's email, so we're going to play that in a second. Oh, boy. That's actually a good use of this. Yeah, it actually is. And it sounds great, like very professional.

It took two seconds to do it. It's kind of insane. But anyway, let's do that. We'll find out what this listener is looking for right now. Here we go. Hey, Wendy, Brian, Scott. I am at a crossroads in regards of whether I should continue podcasting. Over the years, I've experimented with different formats ranging from morning talk shows, similar to the feel of TMS.

to news commentary programs, politics, social issues, and even music programs similar to Coverville. I started podcasting about six months after I quit the radio business, 13 years' experience. I did pretty much everything you can do in small market radio, newscasts, newswriting, producing commercials, and DJing. I got out of the business because I didn't agree with a station company policy regarding covering political candidates seeking another office. In Missouri, our state house and Senate are subject to term limits. In 2006, my state representative was running for state Senate.

My boss accused me of endorsing him, even though the candidate and I never once talked about his run until weeks after he lost the election, and I had quit the job. I ran into the candidate a grocery store. Most recently, I produced a morning show for two years, but based on statistics I wasn't drawing listeners. I would tell friends about the show. They would encourage me but never seem to follow through on the promise. They would listen to a show.

This is highly frustrating because I have dreamed of being a radio broadcaster since I was eight, nine years old. So in all of this, is it wise for me to continue producing content? Money isn't a big problem in this endeavor. But I would like to get at least some emotional financial reward for this work. Thanks for taking the time to read my letter and hope it might help others pursing a seemingly fruitless dream. I've been a long time fan of TMS started listening in March 2011 and have listened to every episode to date.

Same goes for Film Sack, J.H. All right, J.H. Why, that's so well read. It freaks me out. I don't know why. Yeah, I mean, he sounds like he's got a great voice for podcasting, so he really should. Yeah. This robot named Sam read that, and it's freaking creepy how good it is.

Anyway, J.H, I thought, I thought this was an interesting email because it just mirrored. a lot of, like his particular dream is in radio and broadcasting and specific podcasting. But there are people out there all the time who are like, man, I wanted to be a doctor, but it didn't pan out, or man, I wanted to do this or it didn't work or whatever. I started doing this and didn't make enough money on it, but I love doing it and, you know, do I still pursue it? Yeah, or did I, you never got the recognition or even the support or whatever. And it can be so demoralizing because in a lot of ways, you are promised.

Not promise. One of the promises that you're told is a promise is that you can be anything you want to be. And I feel like while that may be technically true, I don't know that it has the probability of truth. Like not everybody can be Michael Jordan, but a whole lot of kids wanted to be. Not everybody can be the, you know, PewDie Pie or the top streamer in the world, but a lot of kids want to be and think they're going to be. and then are disappointed when they can't be when the when the checks when the views don't start coming in like wait a minute i'm doing the same thing as pewty pie why aren't i getting the views and right right so so windy where do you want to go with this one the answer um i mean when

i first read it and then just as you guys were talking again about it i'm thinking i have the same thought and i don't know if it's right or even relevant but i'll just say it which is like It's an issue of timing, right? PewDiePie is only Pewtie by because of timing. Timing and luck, yeah. You're right. Yeah. And I look at like, Scott, your early podcasting endeavors, like you were alive at the right time. Millennials feel, know this feeling when you ask them about owning homes. They were always at the wrong time. You know, every crash, you know, they're in fifth grade. They should have been buying houses. What were they doing? You know, like you just don't, timing really, really does matter. And guess what we have no control over?

timing yeah yeah so i mean is that too cynical like i i don't know if it's too cynical i think it's realistic yeah um yeah i mean it's very realistic uh you know there's there's two prongs to it there's the i'm doing it because i want to um i want to make money i want the i want the recognition i want people you know i want lots of views even if it doesn't equate to money i want lots of people listen this but then there's also the i do it because i have a passion for this thing I would do it whether I had 10 listeners or 10,000 listeners. Right. And that's where I would start with J.H.

is saying, what's the goal? And are you doing a radio morning show because you love a morning show? Are you doing a music show because you're excited about that? It sounds like, you know, I mean, news and political commentary might be the thing that he's more, he or she is more passionate. about. And maybe that's the direction. And if you're passionate about something, it'll come through. You'll get the views.

You'll get the people who are looking for your specific brand of stuff. Sorry, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm stepping on your, your, uh. You're doing great. I'm just going to kick back. I love it. Therapy Thursday with Brian I like it. It's new. Yeah.

But I mean, it's, you know, do it, do it for yourself first because you ultimately you need to be satisfied with the thing that you're putting out. to be happy and you need to get your own emotional rewards from doing it and if you do that then the listeners who want that thing will come and find you i think part of it is a controlled controlled expectations given the environment so if your expectations in 2004 were to ooh this new podcasting thing this sounds like it's fun i think i would love to do this that's a very different thing than in 23 with nearly 20, nearly 20 years later. I'm like, gosh. That's funny. Nearly 20 years later,

you saying to yourself, ooh, podcasting, I want to get in on the ground floor. There's no ground floor anymore. I mean, the ground floor exists, but it's not what it used to be. And so, you know, when things took off for the instance, that was, that was this thing of being prepared for the timing and the luck, but there was timing and luck, like big time. Like I didn't. Right place, right time. Yeah, I happened. And the right kind of. And the right country. Exactly. I pulled the trigger at the right time. I had the content that was going to be the right thing for the right time and it hit. And that was a huge boost for everything else to come after that. That doesn't happen to everybody. And it's also really crowded now. It used to be like when I, just for a perspective, when I started the instance, it was the, it was a World of Warcraft podcast. And at the time, there were three others that existed that I could find it all. There were three total. And one of them, I think, was. already going away. So maybe two that were active. Now there's still to this day hundreds and hundreds of them. Like it's just a different time. There are hundreds and hundreds listed.

But if you start looking at like, all right, eight episodes and they were done in 2020 or or 14 episodes and this one was finished in, you know, 2019 or whatever. Yeah. People give up all the time. That's the thing that gets really, uh, that breaks your heart when you're like, oh, I've got this great idea for a podcast. Then you do a search and you find that there are a hundred. shows that have the same content or have the same idea, but then you just got to quickly drill down and say, all right, well, of those, how many are still producing their shows today? And of the ones that are still producing shows today, what can I do differently from them? Why don't I like what they're doing?

What can I, what's my take on? What's my spin? Sure. Now, if you pull the camera way out, Wendy, which is probably where this is going to end up going. Oh, is Wendy still here? Yeah, Wendy's still here. She's still a lot with us. If I pull the camera way out and I say, so I had to experience with a friend of, used to be a friend of mine, very strained relationship now.

But somebody who is of some prominence, I'll just say he was huge in the sports space. Okay. I'll even say baseball. That's as far as I'll say it. We were close enough. There's not three people who don't know who you're talking about it. No, I wish it was Barry Bonds. It's not.

a guy who we would we were texting all the time and having phone conversations all the time and and we were we were close you know pretty close friends we still send christmas cards to each other's families that's that's where that is however he took a weird turn right around 2015 and never really recovered from it um and i won't get into details the point and a lot of people listening to this will know exactly what i'm talking about but the point of this this discussion is um he we had a recent kind of run in where i was annoyed with something that Elon Musk did and his response to me was, well, if you do the work that he did, if you do the work, you could be like him. I don't think criticizing him is

fair. You could do, you could be just like him. And it's this weird fallacy we have in our head of anybody can be a billionaire or a millionaire for that matter. It's just not, it's not just not feasible. It's literally not possible to have everyone be a billionaire. It doesn't, it's not. It's not. It's possible. Right now, the top 10% of all wealth in America is a very small group of people. 60% or something of the population are in the bottom 1%. Yeah, we can't even sustain the billionaires we have. No, we can't. And so this concept that we have of, well, you could be an astronaut, you could be president, you could be whatever. It's so, it's so discounty. It actually is not, it's not fair to tell people that you know you could say is it possible you could do all the

right things and be on the exact right trajectory and know all the right people or whatever that you could become president one day yes it is possible very remote but it's possible but probability never gets talked about parents don't ever go well the probable outcome is you're never going to amount to anything you know like they're not going to do that either no exactly you don't let's squash their hopes and dreams right out of the right out of the game yeah so my my whole thing is about this again controlling your expectations of what do you want out of it i like what brian said it's like if if what you want out of it is just the joy of doing it well then you're set go for it you're good you're golden and if anything happens on top of that it will be gravy for you when i started

i mean it's such an american mindset right right like what you're actually describing is like bootstrap work hard you first in line just step on everyone else um and and and if not you're lazy or if not you're, you know, it's not your own fault or like there's a, there's a bit of the don't calculate the system you're in or the zip code you were born in or any other factors. We just love our stories that, you know, and on one hand it's like kind of cool because a lot of those stories are true and real and have happened. But man, we do wrap a lot of regular folks into that category and and ourselves. And that's actually maybe what's relevant for this person. Like what is underlying some of this.

for you. So, I mean, even at the end, saying, like, money's not that big a deal, right? Did I misunderstand that? Like, no one starves here. Right. Exactly. He's not putting all of his eggs on the podcasting basket, which I would totally recommend people absolutely not do. Ever. I would not recommend it. Now, if you're like a, if you're a successful comedian, you're like, yeah, I'm thinking I might start a podcast. You're going to make some money. You're going to do great because you've got all that other stuff and that momentum. But if you're somebody on the very lampground for without any no notoriety of any kind to start with go in for the passion do not go in for the money you might get lucky yeah yeah no i mean you know i can't even put all my eggs

in the podcasting basket i have to have eggs and all sorts of other baskets right and let's let's actually take what that that means because yeah you know take the right the publishing industry right something like i don't know millions of books written every year And the ones that get published, you're paid to write and get published. I mean, the numbers, I think it's $250,000 maybe get published to you. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, your percentage, this piece of work, you spent constant, unbelievable attention and time to, and it's going to not go anywhere is an incredibly

difficult thing, right? You could find this in many different industries, right? And so I guess it comes down to doing a couple different things, is analyzing, like, what is your motive? So yes, you had a dream since you were nine to work in this type of thing. You had some problems at the company you were at before. It seems like the right time to switch. You're excited. You're doing stuff. You're asking friends. They're like saying the right words, but maybe the numbers aren't falling. So your measurements are a couple of things. There's a lot of pressure on it, right? And then B, the measurement is a particular thing. And so,

something to ask is like what am I so afraid would happen if I quit this? What would it mean for me? Or what am I afraid if I keep doing it? No one ever listens. I like this question of like what am I afraid of or a part of me is really scared of blank. You just kind of dig up some of what are you afraid of. You find out what drives people. I mean, I don't want to talk about billionaires because I annoy me. But like something drove them to some level that. It's unbelievable, right? And if a lot of people keep that momentum without ever getting curious, and if you get curious about it, like, what would actually happen?

What is it? Or even the flip of what do I really want here? Because, you know, we all think we want a million views. I mean, do you? You don't really know. You think you do. Yeah. Yeah.

What are you going to do? Like, once you get that, what's the result of that? Yeah. Let me tell you something. As someone who's gotten more than a million views on, well, way more than a million listens on podcasting, my back still hurts and the dog has cancer and I have to poop. And I probably won't be able to do it until after the show.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you think is over there. Also, I'm really sorry about your dog. I know. I think we got it, though. If the results come back that the tumor had at all, then I'm going to be really happy. But a little poorer, but happy, freaking bats, man.

whew, vets. You know what? I should have been a vet. That's the trick. There you go. Dana, I wish I would have gotten in on that vet ground floor. I'm telling you guys, vets don't do well, generally,

emotionally. So I love them and we need them, but man, that's a hard job. It's like what Carter always says. We always told her when she was growing up. She loves animals so much. There's always caretaking animals.

I'm like, you would be the best vet. And she's like, I always told you, and I'll still say it today. I could never be a vet. I'm like, why? I can't put any animal to sleep. I can't give the news to somebody that their pets dying. Yeah,

it's a lot. Because why else are they bringing their dog in? Oh, your dog's riddled with tumors will be dead in a week. That's not fun. That doesn't sound great. And to do any medical intervention is so expensive. People just can't do it. It's just, yeah. Okay. Moving back to your point. Your point is

hey, you've achieved the million status and you still have to poop in the middle of the podcast. I don't act. For the record, I don't actually have to go. I was just trying to think of things. But yeah, It still works. Of course, right. Nowhere, Scott.

It is always top of mind, though, Brian, so it's possible. Of course. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. We are terrible predictors as a species of our future happiness, right? So drilling down on what and why your motives. I like the five why. We've talked about this before where you just keep asking why. Every time you answer why, ask another why.

So, for example, you know, why are you doing this? Well, it's because. it's been a dream since I was nine. Why? Well, I don't know. It just seemed like it'd be a lot of fun. Why? And then you just keep going. Like, what is really at the core here? Does it mean I'm a good person? Does it mean what I have to offer the world is enough? You know, you can kind of get down to the nitty-gritty of this and maybe some things will shift. And then it might lead to that, you know, the age-old concept of like follow your passion and the money will follow, right? Like, not that's not true. You follow your passion and you could be real poor. You also might not.

I don't know. But where you put your energy matters because you have one life. One life to live and it is where your time, where your energy goes is going to take up that life. So I think sometimes a real honesty or a gut check or a pause, work it through with somebody else. I think our tendency is just like follow what other people are doing that has been successful read i mean how many buzzfeed articles or whatever are what the five most five things every successful whoever does they're like drink water it was like ah drinking water you know right it's it's like we want to know the secret because the secret it's hard for us to think wow it's timing or you know what's his name bill gates grew up near a supercomputer when no one else did no that's right yeah he's even

said so he's like i spent 10 hours a day on this thing at this with the school and yeah he's acknowledged he's like no one else got access to that thing in one place on earth like it's just not realistic so i actually have some really concrete advice for this person to do all right i like concrete rather than just my sort of nebulous check your gut and see what you're really thinking here's a book on amazon that'll be awesome um i don't have one but if i did i would Definitely tell them to go there. For sure, yeah. So I want to, we're going to steal the, I forget, it's used in a lot of places,

but it's just kind of this 80, 20 rule we like to use in life of, you know, where 80% of your energy, time, the work you're doing goes into, if that's going into stuff you can't stand, right? Or it's draining you. You're not going to do well, right? Right. But the truth is like 80% of the results of good stuff. actually comes from 20% of your time.

So they've done quite a few studies to kind of prove this. And it fluctuates a little bit. But it's pretty close to, you know, 20% of your effort results in the 80% of the good things. Also, 20% of the crappy things in your life results in 80% of your suffering. Right? So you can think about it. Is this vibe with you guys as a good principle?

Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking about just, you know, freelance projects and stuff like that. It's like, oh, God, here's the fun stuff. Oh, and here's the stuff I've, you know, got to do on a month to month basis kind of thing. Yeah, exactly, right?

So one thing to do with this and, like, if he wants to pause and get a pen and paper, is to sit down with no distractions at all and start with a couple different things. Just vomit on a page, all of your unique abilities. What can you do better than not? other people. And it doesn't mean you're better than other people. It just means like you like numbers and accounting more than your spouse. That's not hard to find. That's every household,

right? Somebody's got just more skills than the other in certain ways or things that just feel like unique to you. You're proud of them. Other people compliment you about those things. Okay. So write all that down what you think are unique abilities. All right. And then take another minute to brainstorm this next thing. Then write down everything that is work but doesn't feel like work. Oh, this is interesting. Okay. Activities that just bring you joy.

Okay. So you got the things you're good at, things that bring you joy. That you know of and then things that do not feel like work. Okay. I'm writing this down. So when you say, do your monthly invoicing, Wendy, Wendy's like, that's work. It is work. I hate it.

I hate it so much. But then you say, hey, Wendy, talk to this person. and help them not kill themselves. I'm like, do it, I'm done, I'm ready, woo. Like that is fun for me. I don't even feel like it's work. Time disappears, right? That is not a lot of people.

That's fairly unique for me. And I mean, there's others, right? But that's pretty unique. And then, but what is this for him? What is this for you guys? What are your unique abilities? And then what does not feel like work? Okay.

Mm-hmm. And then I want you to add, your third sort of vomit list is where do you add the most value? And that's not what am I good at or what do I like. It's what is actually happening. Like what generates revenue? The most value to other people? Oh, the most value to yourself. Yeah, your job, the people you're working with, your family. Okay. Where do you bring value? Okay. And a way to think about it is like, what are people thanking you for? Or when are you the go-to person? Oh, interesting.

That whole thing with like, what's your love language? Is that fit into that? You know, like, you're a gift giver. Are you someone who calls and checks on people? You know, like that kind of stuff? Sure. Okay. Yeah, you could do that or it's like, oh, you bring in the big bucks.

Or you, when you do a presentation at your office, everyone stops and listens and then the sale is made, right? Like, whatever the value, you can measure it in revenue or monetary ways. You can measure it in emotional, supportive kind of ways. It could be just like... You're the fun maker. Like, everybody is excited to go to the thing you start or you do. So an easy way to kind of get this is look back at the feedback you're getting from other people, right? That can help be helpful.

Okay. And then figure out what of those things that are in any of these lists. It brings you joy is uniquely yours and it brings value. which one, you know, maybe see if you can find threads. Maybe there's something that's in each of those boxes. Oh, yeah. There you go. Yeah.

And then look at, does it make you any money if money is what you need? Does it advance your relationships or your career? Does it make your community stronger? Does it just bring you emotional satisfaction? Yeah. Find, find it like percent of your life energy. if you're doing this for business, it would be how much money it brings in or, you know, whatever. Find the sweet spot and then you kind of pick that, right?

So that's where your 20% of energy should be going. So if you flip it, the opposite of, you know, where's that 80% that when you focus on makes you insane? Yeah. Like it makes your that 20% rough, right? Yeah. Yeah. So what are you not good at? So I am not good at a social media.

I don't care, not interested. But what if that's really important to what I'm trying to do in my life? Yeah. Well, then I got to hire someone. Right. Now, what it sounds like, I'm listening to this guy's list of, of to-does and accomplishments. I mean, he is doing all of it. It sounds like, is that with that-

That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah. From what we can tell, yeah. And so what ends up happening when we do everything for a family or a business or whatever it is, everything is being done by one person who has a bunch of unique abilities, but also is not good at everything, is so much energy gets spent, like diffusing what you can actually, like the gifts you're actually going to bring, right? So figuring out what is some stuff you can offload, hire out, drop completely.

so for example say he's terrible at marketing and sales of his his podcasting let's say that is not his strength and he keeps trying to do it himself by asking friends to listen right that's a good one yeah i like that what can i don't i'm terrible at that that's one of my weaknesses i'm terrible at learning so drop it hire someone else if you bring somebody else in to do it social media bring somebody else in to do it yeah somebody who that's in their 20% of genius right The thing they love and they're so good at and gives them joy. You can find those people. They can do that magic while you do the stuff that you're good at, right?

Right. Okay. And then here's the other one. This is my favorite part is using the 80-20 rule again is like it's the same thing with 20% of stuff you're doing causes you the most stress. Sorry, it creates that 80% of your stress, right? So it's the flip side of this. Yeah. So it's about figuring out what you want to get rid of, okay?

So paper and pen again, off the top of your head, what are the 20% of stressors that cause 80% of your irritations? Just write them down. 20% of stressors that cause 80% of your stress. Yeah. So you dread it. You have a pit in your stomach. You avoid it.

I find that, you know, everyone avoids stuff a little bit, but when you are consistently avoiding your email, which I think is just all of us now. But especially if it's important, that's a good sign. Like, I have to do this thing and I am instead going to make cookies because I've never, I haven't even made cookies before. You know, what are those things? Just write them down. Like, what would you, where are these stressors coming from that cause most of your heartache?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. And then, here's a fun question. What are one or two things? It could be something on that list. But what are two things that you do want to regularly? that you don't have to.

Oh, that definitely is the thing I should evaluate. There's so much of that. Yeah. So I would, I, I, I would write down driving my kids everywhere, but I have to. Yeah. I mean, there's the things that, yeah, right, that you don't have to do. Yes. But this would be something I don't have to do.

But I am tempted to say, I hire a driver. But you still need to allow for some of the stuff that you like to do that you don't have to just because it brings. brings you, like, you know, want to play a video game for half an hour a day or something, just to, like, get away from stuff. Yeah, or walking a dog. No, this is not that. This is something you do on a regular basis that you don't have to.

You don't have to do, but it's a lot of your time. Yeah. Right. Maybe it's take your clothes to the dry cleaning and it actually, you can just wash them. I don't know. It's something like that where you, you, or the other way around. Like you, you just don't, it's not all that necessary. Yeah, if it'll hire it out.

Hired it out is actually really true. And especially if you grew up like me, you hire nothing out ever. You just do it yourself. And no matter how much time and pain and waste of your time it is, you just do it. So trying to find something, I'm still struggle. I struggle with this one. I'm like, can someone do my email? No.

Can someone plan the meals? No. You know, whatever. But I'm going to struggle to figure this out. But that might show you a couple of things you're doing on a regular basis that really you don't need to be doing. and then and that leads to like what am I spending my time on that's not worth my time yeah and so maybe you can you know cooking a giant meal every single night might not be necessary could you do that on the weekend or some way to you know we're messing around and then

the final one that I really like is to you know what what is weighing you down that if you let go of would be amazing so for example I I would like to learn German and I would like to learn how to crochet or something, right? And every year you add that to you, I'm going to do this this year. I'm going to learn to play the piano. I'm going to, whatever. And so you're carrying around a burden of failure all year to just re-up the next year. So could you, and just imagine for yourself, like, what would it feel like to drop it, to let it go?

I am not learning German. I'm free. finally never again and then what happens to that energy you have it back but you maybe people aren't always realizing they're handing out their energy to a ghost of a goal because it sounds awesome and i want to do it yeah but do you then feel the guilt of of of having this goal of this like hey i want to just better myself for the for just the purpose of this thing that i know i'm going enjoy. I know I'm going to enjoy doing crochet, or I know I'm going to enjoy learning German, but then you've got this guilt of saying, well, I just said, I don't need to do that. And now I'm no, I'm not going to. Is there the guilt of like, because I do have a couple things like, oh, yeah, that's my, you know, I want to be able to do this or I want to do this other thing and, and, uh, learn piano. There's a difference between. Is it a goal or is it a weighted pipe dream you carry around in your back back? Why not?

Because a goal Is it just achievable? Yeah. Yeah, I get scheduled. It gets, like, it's part of what you go to incorporate as your New Year's resolution. You start to do a couple of things, right? Like, that's a version of a goal versus a pipe dream. Now, can you put it on a piece of paper and file that away that when I have the energy?

I'll come back to my list of things I might want to do. Yeah. I mean, because guilt, guilt means. you haven't actually let it go. Right. Yeah, exactly. And so this isn't easy. I'm not saying letting go is easy.

No, that's a tough thing for me because, you know, especially if you're, oh, I just, I picked up this online guitar class thing that I know I'm going to do. I'm not going to do it anymore, but guess what? That money is still out of my bank account for that guitar class I purchased. It's funny. It's like the weight of it. And one way to think about this. Speaking of somebody else, by the way.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, for a friend, for a friend. You're asking for a friend. Totally not me. Yeah. Well, and if you think about, like, what it is, what are we doing to ourselves in these moments where we take on something? Is it, is it because we really want it? Because we're supposed to.

I mean, the truth is deep, deep down, if we needed something, we wanted something, if we were going to starve or we were, you know, that deep need, human need to do something. We do it. Right. So not to say these aren't good goals or it's fun or I, you know, but it's, it creates a weight that you carry around. And so I have a suggestion you could try. Let's say I want to learn the guitar and I'm going to start out this year. I bought this course. It is not working and it's draining me to have this sitting in the back of my head.

You give yourself an artificial rule that I don't get to practice the guitar or start up again until November 1st. You just put it in a category of that's when I will, you know, go back to this and think about it again. But for the next six months, yeah, guitar is off the table. Give your permission. Yeah, of it. So maybe it doesn't have to be forever, but it can be put somewhere else. Now, you might say, oh, I do that all the time.

It's called procrastination. That's not what I'm talking about. This is, I'm not allowed until November 1st to even consider the guitar again. And then you hold yourself to it. and then November comes around and you're like, I don't know if I ever want to do this. I'm not sure. That's true.

I've done this with a couple of things. My hardest one is freaking food and end the same day. It's like, I'm not going to eat that bag of whatever until seven. Oh, it's three o'clock. Why not? Let's just go ahead.

I don't just eat that bag of food. I know it's a whole different discussion, different topics. Maybe the goal just should be don't eat a whole bag of food. Maybe. Don't eat your food in bag, uh, Please take it out of a bag.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. That's amazing. So, anyway, going back to the whole gist of like the 80-20 thing, just something to think about, like, is, are you trying to do everything? Where are your headaches? What can be let go of? And are you shining your light focus energy on the 20% of, like the sweet spot where it's stuff you love and you're good at it and it brings some value? and then you get help with the 80 that gives you headaches.

And that's not easy for most of us. Most of us, you know, we don't ask for help. We just have to be successful all by ourselves. Right. Right. So, yeah. And then, you know, I'm always a fan of like, let's just see what success even means to you, right? What did, what was the messaging your parents gave you about, are you good enough, right?

Or what is the messaging classmates or T-shirts or T-shirts? features, friends, you know, whatever. See, the AI can't get my language disorder, right? No. I don't know. I think if we train it hard enough, I'll bet I could make it goof up like that. And you'd never know, wasn't you? Yeah. That's what's weird. I don't like it. It's got to ease up on the chipper. I'm not that chipper. You're not that happy. Forget it. I don't say soldering, soldering iron. Yeah. I had to change it a bunch because it, because it kept pronouncing it, like the way that soldering is spelled. So I had to misspell it to get it to say, it right. So there is one weakness there.

Or to say it the way Americans say it, I guess if you're in other places they do say, soldiering, soldering, yeah. Soltering. Yeah. Wendy's been to Britain a lot, but I don't think she retained much of the accent. You just lilt your voice at the end.

That's what happened after I live there a while. But I don't know. Other than my bad habit of someone is speaking in a British accent to me, I try to copy them. there you go well i i think this is going to be helpful to him because it's already been helpful for me um yeah this gave me some ideas and i've never i always like wendy's little homework assignments but i i hadn't thought to break it out into this into these sort of groups you know

like the whole things that are good or that you're good at things that people tell you're good at or what what value do you bring it i don't ever think about that yeah no this this had absolutely no effect on what I do at all in my life. But on a completely totally separate note, does anyone want a lift window decal that I can send him? Yeah. I'm going to get that. I got a deal for you, Brian. We'll talk

after the show. It's not related. Not all. All right. Well, I, please let us know, listener. J. What was his name? Shoot. I lost his name. J.H. Let us know how Jim Halper. Oh, it's Jim Helper. Shoot. You've docks them. You've docks to Hollywood fake

character. Dang. His podcast. is called Bears Beats Battlestar Galactica. That's right. Oh, you did it again. Shoot. Well, anyway, the damage is done. But let us know how things go for you. I'm very, very excited for what maybe this will help you do.

So keep us informed. Wendy, I know things are in full swing. I got an email from real steps.org. A real email from Real Step. Oh, and we should thank everybody real quick. A whole bunch of you donated money to the Max's fund for the, what's a call? called a scholarship fund. His scholarship fund, yes.

So I told you to only send $2 and you guys went overboard. But, yeah, about $1,000. So thank you. Yeah, it was really nice to guys. I'm giving it to her next Sunday, not this Sunday. Let's see what. Yeah, no. Yeah, next Sunday is when my delivery date is.

So if you're bored, you want to still add, please there's some time. But the messages and notes are so sweet and it's just going to. Oh, yeah. I hope it helps. So much to them. So thank you. You bet. All right, sorry, real steps.

Make sure you take video of it and put it on your social media. Yeah, put it on your social media and then, you know, do a selfie and do the little piece symbol. Do all those things because that's what the world tells you you're supposed to do. Oh, and never age. Don't age. All right. Never get old.

Just stay young forever. Young and beautiful. That's the rule. I don't know what you're saying, but it's hurting me. What are you saying? Just the way. We're creating 80% of stress right now. Yeah.

All the things I hate. You just listed. Yeah, I did. That's why I don't like them either. So we're, we're in agreement. Anyway, sorry. real steps you're doing stuff so yeah sign up go to real steps.org we start Monday March 5th so a little bit of what I talked about today is not exactly what we're doing

but there's some some real fun changeups we're going to do about aspects of life that are going to be really helpful I think so it's going to be a really fun round so please join if you have questions you can email me at admin at real steps dot org nice that starts soon I'll email a few more times. I apologize in advance, but this is how you do email marketing. Advanced apology. I like it. I like you. I need to hire someone else. You're playing with time travel there. All right. Well, this is good stuff. Wendy, have a fantastic week. So how to the kids. Tell Adam to keep sending out great email. He's doing a great job. Speaking of all, offloading your work, make him do all your web stuff, all of it. He does my web stuff, but I have

to write the stuff. Oh, well, now, hey, chat gpt.com might be your friend. Yeah, check that out. You don't even want to know what that is. I don't trust it. You don't really want to know. All right. We'll see you later. Bye. She really doesn't want to know, I promise.

Oh, it really doesn't. Someone in her business, if she, if she finds out what chat GBT could do for people's dissertations and papers and research for psych stuff, she'll lose her mind. So I'm not even going to tell her. Nope. Nope. Good plan. Don't do it. Do it.

Uh, that's it for the show today. There is some stuff coming up later. You should be aware of. I believe you are doing a coverville today, tell the fine folks. I am. Yeah, it's coming up at 1 p.m. today, the tribute to Burt Bachrock. And listen, we all know songs like, I'll never fall in love again. Do you know the way to San Jose?

But then you look at stuff that maybe you didn't realize was him, like anyone who had a heart. And baby, it's you by the Shirelles. And what else? Walk on by and like all of these other songs, it's like, oh, there's so much good stuff that he and Hal David wrote together for all these amazing musicians. And a lot of people cover his work. A lot of people love it. I love it.

So look for folks like Pamplamose, Shakespeare's sister, the late great Terry Hall, Colin Hay from Men at Work, Fridie Johnson, all on today's show. Very nice. Do check that out. That's today at 1 p.m. Mountain Time. Twitch.tv slash Coverville if you want to watch it live. Yeah. there's also a brand new oh i'll be on d tns today that's got switch from wednesday so today is that day

and there's some big stuff about the playstation vr2 that we're going to talk about kind of some breaking early reviews on what people think of that unit and somebody from the verge will be on the show to talk about it um very excited about it so that'll be today uh on d tns and then later tonight 5 p m mountain time core will be happening live lots to talk about there including this news about the psvr 2 and it's outrageous price point But also a bunch of game stuff, including the completely redo. I don't even call it a remaster. It's a remake of the classic Farrow City Builder game. Do you remember this game from the late 90s? Oh, I totally remember that.

Interesting. It's out today, yesterday, and it's great. Really? Throwing it out there. Yeah. Can't wait to talk about it tonight. So both John and I played. We're going to talk about that at length tonight.

Big Core episode, check it out. That's tonight at 5 p.m. And wherever we get your podcast after the fact. and of course film sack this weekend will happen i don't remember what we're doing um we are doing red eye oh right red eyes i'm actually excited about this looking are you red eye to watch red eye my red eye will watch red eye and then i will be red eye for the episode so uh anyway that's this weekend that'll be fun can't wait for that patreon dot com slash tms is where you can go and support this show including unlocking that cool hollywood square style uh game that brian really wants to unlock all these years later

trying to forever you guys have never quite hit the crescendo we need yeah make it so make it so you know 20% of my time could be spent making that and not uh lifting yeah that's a great way to look at it exactly so uh help us get there we'd love to do that one day but even if all you can do is go over and throw us a dollar we'd appreciate it patreon dot com slash tms is the place to do it you'll never get ad you get pre-show content every day couch parties on the weekend playdates on the monthly other great benefits art in the mail tease select of T's. Pretty sure I'm going to have, I got to talk to Gwen, but I think she'll be here Monday to talk T.

Cool. Yay. Yeah. Little Stephen than Gwen that day. We can hear how she likes the 3D printed minis that I did for her D&D game. Oh. Yeah. Very nice.

Anyway, that's all coming up. That's it. We're done. Oh, go to frogpents.com slash TMS for all their contact details and everything else. It's all right there. Brian, we need to leave. And my memory is that we can't do it without a song. So is that correct?

You're right. Oh, my gosh, your memory is so good. And we've got a couple sad tributes that I want to do today. A couple people wrote in. Andrew M. wrote in said, Dear Skip and Bales, my dad passed away in 2019 on this day. And I was wondering if you could play a cover of anything Eagles-related. My dad would have loved it, signed Andrew, aka Dimendron. On the rare occasion, I make it to the chat.

We also heard from Tyler Rowland, whose mom, Tracy, lost her battle with stomach cancer on Wednesday of this. month just just a few days ago uh she uh they had a mother sun dance uh during the wedding back in october uh to he and his wife ray and uh to the back street boy's perfect fan uh but uh she had a lot of other uh musical groups that uh that she liked growing up and so uh he he told me picked something from there thanks for being my parisocial grieving buddies tyler roland from grand rapids Oh, I'm sorry about your dad. That sucks. Hearts going out to both of you, Andrew's dad and Tyler's mom. Consider this song, a tribute to both of them.

I don't have a cover of that Backstreet Boys song that you guys dance to, but I do have something, I think, that you'll both enjoy. This is a cover of the Eagles. This was done on Johnny Cash's American Four. The Man Comes Around. Johnny Cash had this way, and we know this from that Nine Inch Nails cover that he did. of making any song that he covered his own. And he does that beautifully with this version right here of the Eagles Desperado. Here is Johnny Cash.

Desperado. Don't you come to your senses? You've been out riding fences for so long now. Oh, you're a hard one. But I know that you've got your reasons. These things that are pleasing you can hurt you somehow. Don't you draw the queen? of diamonds boy

She'll beat you if she's able Another queen of hearts Is always your best bet Now it seems to me Some fine things Have been laid upon your table But you only want The things that you can't get

Desperado Oh, you ain't getting no younger Your pain and your hunger They're driving you home And freedom, oh freedom Well, that's just some people talking Your prison is walking Through this world all alone

And don't your feet get cold in the wintertime The sky won't snow The sun won't shine It's hard to tell the night time From the day You're losing all your highs and lows Ain't it funny how the feeling goes away Desperado, why don't you come to your senses, come down from your fences and open the gates.

It may be raining, but there's a rainbow above you. You better let somebody love you. somebody love you, you better let somebody love you before it's too late. chop you up and make a nutty fruit kick out of you. That's what I'm going to do.