The Morning Stream - TMS 2425: Sleep Podcasting

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

Utah, the Dutch Oven State. Meth N' Sexy Hotel. Is There A Branch Of The Military That Just 3D Prints Things, Because I REALLY want to know! I'll rub it out later. The bastard cat did it! I plopped my pants. Capture Your Humanoids. I Don't Like Colorado Green Chiliiiiiiiiiii. What's Florida's State aroma these days? You know it's pungent. You say Potato, I say Tobago. Mother penny was the worst James Bond character. The producer knows nothing. So How Does Burgertime Work? Waiting for paint to dry with Bill. it's always good to see Bill, with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, Utah, the Dutch Oven State. Meth and sexy hotel. Is there a branch of the military that just 3D prints things because I really want to know? I'll rub it out later. The bastard cat did it. I plopped my pants. Capture your humanoids. I don't like Colorado green chili.

What's Florida state aroma these days? You know it's pungent. You say potato, I say Tobago. Mother Penny was the worst James Bond character. The producer knows. nothing. So how does burger time work? Waiting for paint to dry with Bill. It's always good to see Bill with Bobby and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. Packman is known as the cute game. A voracious little yellow globe gobbles up golden dots

and various kinds of fruit, all the while being pursued by four hungry monsters, which can themselves be eaten at crucial moments. There's a fella in there. I'll pay you $10 if you sing into his can. The morning stream. If I tow my head to the side, I sound better. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Tuesday, February 21st, 2023.

I'm Scott Johnson. And that, with a salute of a prize. proper military man is Brian Abbott. That's right. That's right. And, uh, hey, pull up those pants, private. Pull up those private pants. Yeah, pull up your private pants before I see your private's private. That's what you'd say.

Exactly. Hey, did you, uh, if you ever had to join one wing of the military, have you ever thought about which one you'd join, like which, uh, branch, I guess. I've never given a thought, but probably, I probably do Air Force, number one, because the, um, the, um, the, Academy, Air Force Academy is just to our south in Colorado Springs. Plus, listen, I'd love to learn how to fly a plane. Sure. Flying's cool.

Yeah, get up in the air. That's cool. And even doing stuff that's not flying a plane related. I mean, drone flying and stuff like that. Yeah, the drone, those drone guys, I don't know, you always hear horror stories because they're wiping out people like from across the world and they have to go home at night. It's like, okay, Bill, see you tomorrow. You're like, yeah, I just killed 4,000 dudes today, but I'm just going to go home.

I know. It must be a weird, weird job doing that. Is there a branch of the military that just 3D prints things? There's probably like an R&D or like, there's probably something. I'm sure. I mean, there's got to be, right? Because there's, you know, the, yeah. How you get in there, those are probably really peachy, peachy, cherry jobs, what I meant to say.

Wrong fruit. Yeah, either one. Either one worked, peachy cherry. All sorts of delicious fruit that the glowing orange sphere is consuming. Before the monsters get you. exactly no no noun in that in that guy's report goes unadgetative nope adetived yep it's uh for those maybe grew up in the chicago in the 80s you'll probably know that guy he was a he followed the games world uh all the time it was always about arcades

and defenders the biggest game ever and and are our kids having problems for most so much gameplay like this kind of stuff so darn i really wanted to hear his description of how burger time works. I will play. A portly chef walks across buns, meat, and other assorted vegetables to drop. Well, listen, this is how he does. Here's how he defends, or talks about Defender. Here's how that works here.

There's Defender, a space battle game made by Williams Electronics on the north side. The object is to fly over your planet shooting down the enemy spacecraft, which are trying to capture your humanoids. Yeah, that's it. Oh, well, that's kind of a boring. description, as flowery as Pac-Man was. Yeah, he went crazy with Pac-Man. You fly a spaceship across a landscape and shoot aliens. You know it is funny, though, at one point he said,

what did he say about women? Yeah, listen to this. This irritated me. Video game makers believe that their products are starting to attract a whole new market. Adults, especially women, who would not have been caught dead playing pinball. What? You'll never catch me, you'll never catch me alive playing pinball. I'd rather be dead than play pinball.

I don't know why this is our woman, but we'll take it. Space Invaders pinball machine over my dead body. This girl Amy, I dated in high school, she rocked everybody in pinball. All of us. We all looked bad compared to her. I don't know why that guy didn't know nothing. What was he know? Chicago in the 80s, man.

Anyway, hey, I got some stuff today. We got to go through. First, a complaint about the Amazon Echo. okay or maybe this is a complaint about my daughter carter i'm not sure which we'll play the logic complaint music please uh oh yeah you gotta do that where is that uh it's in the wrong damn shit here it is all right my logic complaint here's what happened four o'clock in the morning i hear the sound of voices going like that laughing multiple men don't know who they are and when i woke up i went are they outside i was like at the outside i'm

checking outside are they across the thing i'm like where am i hearing this from it's muffled and weird and i get up because it's starting and they're laughing and i'm starting to make out words i heard they hear the word pizza i hear the word cheese okay and i'm like all right this is even weird and i thought i walked around the house i go out into the the kitchen area and sure enough on the echo podcast or something with dudes talking about how they, oh, I can't have pizza unless you cook it. Oh, yeah. Well, the crust needs to be doing the cheese. Burr-per-Bur.

Like some kind of weird argument, laughy morning show zoo kind of sounding thing. Sounds like a horrible podcast. It was bad. It was bad. 4 a.m. I'm a little blary, but still bad. It was really bad. And I said, I said, A word, stop. And she stops.

And I go back to bed. And I'm like, I don't know why that played. It's not from a phone that I know of, although I think I do know what phone it came from. But anyway, it's not from mine. And I didn't tell it to play. And I don't know if it's even allowed to just kick in like that, but it did. And so I lay down and then I hear the lady voice, the A voice go, now connected to Carter's something, whatever her phone's called. So it was freaking Carter.

It was her phone. And I think she had it in bed with her or something. She probably leaned on it. play by accident and then it played through the house at four o'clock in the freaking morning so instead of pocket dialing she pocket podcasted she pocket podcasted i guess carter i don't know what show that was but their discussion of pizza it was so stupid at four a m you need to be stoned like that she says it wasn't me i had king of the hill playing last night did the two voices sound like dale you know how i like my pizza i would have gone for that i mean i would at least had that would have been my hint

Because I know how much she loves King of the Hill. She watches it all the time. So I've gone, oh, okay, she's just doing that. I don't know. Like, all I know is at the end, it said disconnecting from Carter's phone or whatever the name of it is. Yeah. So it had to been hers, but why it was playing what it was playing, I don't know. Why it kicked on when it did?

I don't know. Freaking 4 a.m. Yeah. Like, her dog's out right now because Rainer's in the bigger kennel for her cone. Maybe Ripley did it. Maybe that cat, that bastard cat did it? I don't freaking know, dude. Anyway, so I'm tired, is the point.

Brian, I got a quiz for you. Are you ready for a quiz? I am ready for a quiz. Quiz me. We got a couple of these from overtime by, from Tim Watson. He sent me a new one. This is a music quiz. If you get one of these right, you'll hear this.

If you get it wrong, you'll hear this. And I'm going to pull up the link. Hold on. I'm a little less prepared than I thought. There it is. Okay. So this is a test for, let's see, what's the title? this oh squeeze you like squeeze squeeze please i do like the band squeeze yeah well we're going to test

your knowledge with 10 questions about squeeze okay if i get these wrong then i'm not going to like the band anymore so i'm just going to say that right now tim you know be careful what you wish for yeah your trivia question he may he may hate the band after this and it'll be your freaking it'll be your fault okay so here's number one these are all uh multiple choice all right okay all right so no big deal uh here's the first one in the song which person or set of people is or actually cool for cats. I'm not sure what that means. Okay.

Is or are actually cool for cats? That's a weird way right now. Is or are cool for cats? Okay. I think it's misread. But anyway, your options are, or mistype. Your options are A, the squaw, be a couple of likely lads. C, Davy Crockett, or D, everybody.

I was going to say everybody because of the squaw. The squaw is tied against a tree. She doesn't mind the language. It's the songs she don't need. She wakes to find the fires, dead now. Arrows in his axe, and everybody says it's something when it's cool for cats. So everybody in that, everybody that you named is cool for cats. Let's find out, is it everybody.

Oh, it's not. It's a couple of likely lads, it says here. Well, okay, because they swear ask your father and how's your father? How's your father? How's your father? your father and they're very cool for cats. Davey Crockett rides around and says it's cool for cats and everybody tells me that it's cool to be a cat.

Oh, technically. All right. Yeah, Davey Crockett says it's cool for cats, but he's technically not cool for cats. Right. If any of you at home have no idea about anything squeeze does, this trivia question, these questions are going to mean nothing to any of you, I guess. All right, here's your next one. Thanks a lot, Tim.

Yeah. Give you a tricky one up top. All right, here's your next one. In the up the junction, or in up the junction, when is the narrator's daughter born? Is it A. 450 a.m. B, 450 p.m. C. 5.30 a.m. or D. 520 a.m. Well, this morning at 4.50, I took her rather nifty to an incubator. We're 30 minutes later. She gave birth to a daughter within Ewer Walker. So, 450 plus 30 minutes would be 520. So is that one of the choices?

It was. 5.20 was an option. Is that your answer? Correct. Correct. Congratulations. You got the math right. Well done. That was a good one. Jeez. That's a song that I've decided when I get off my tukas and go back to learning the ukulele, that's one of the first songs that I want to do because it is a very simple three-cord song. It's like, oh, what a great starter right there. I know we've been over this before, but this is one of your favorite bands, right? One of my favorite bands of all time.

According to Chris Differed, what does the title of the song Pulling Muscles from the Shell mean? Okay. A, extracting the edible parts of a bivalve mollusk from its calcaucatious casing. I'm not sure you say that word. Sure, sure. B, removal of an obvious choice, right? Yeah. B, removal of an unexpectedly solid or impacted piece of fecal matter, which is blocking the anus.

Oh, God. Yeah. C. Third-party digital stimulation of the female prudenda. Okay. Or D, a form of rhino-telexus from a digit removed, a crusty piece of nasal debris connected to a large amount of nasal mucus. Pulling boogers from the nose. Yeah. I love that. His descriptions are wild and crazy, but I love them.

Anyway. Jeez. Prudenza. Because, I mean, the song is all about being at the beach. So it's, you know, it's, uh, um, what the heck is it like the meaning? I'm going to say it's the pulling boogers from your nose. Is it that? Incorrect.

It is, uh, C third, uh, party digital stimulation of the female prudenda. The prudenda, sure. Uh, urban dictionary tells you that pulling muscles from the shell is London slang for intercourse. But Chris Difford says it refers to the use of fingers to stimulate the female sexual organs. I love it. All right. I'm very comfortable. Well, I need to go listen to that song again.

Again, the lyrics have nothing to do with that. So, you know, basically he's like, I like the title. Sounds like that. But now we're going to write a song about being at the beach. Yep. Plus he went to Urban Dictionary, which is always a safe thing to do. All right. Yeah.

Elvis Costello produced a number of squeezed tracks for a, for which, sorry, for, he wrote this weird tracks. But for which song did he come up with and play the piano bit for the ending? your options are a coffee or sorry black coffee in bed be labeled with love oh see tempted or d is that love oh interesting okay so typically jules holland did all the the piano the keyboard work for the band yeah Elvis costello and paul young sing the guest vocalists at the end of black coffee in bed that's then go on black coffee in bed oh black black black black coffee in bed didn't That's a Tom Merritt line. He loves his black coffee. He loves his coffee. Dark black man. Nothing

in it. Nice. And then you also, I believe, here Elvis Costello in tempted for just the one line The people keep on crowded And wishing I was well But the rest of it is Paul Carrick. I think that that's I think Elvis Costello. So, and he did East Side Story, the island that

that that tempted comes from is um is uh was originally going to be a double album with four different producers on each side so you had elvis costello you had niclo you had paul mccartney and then i can't remember who the fourth person was going to be but each producer doing a different side of the album they ended up being making it just a uh a single album oh wow i'm going to say because it's from that album that elvis costello is the most involved with i'm going to say it's tempted and I could be wrong but all right C tempted Brian is not only tempted to choose tempted he has chosen tempted temptation was too great let's find out is it correct it is incorrect the actual answer is D is that love I guess that love okay we have some additional info he says Elvis

Costel saying the song's tempted and black coffee in bed but he came up sorry but he came up with and played the piano for the ending of his that love interesting all right yeah I know the I know the keyboard refrain as well. It's like done on a clavichord, I think. Interesting. All right. You can have to relisten to that one. My clavichord hurts a little bit.

Just a little. I'll rub it out later. Don't isolate that. Okay, here is your next question. The B-side of the single Last Time Forever has five short pieces, each by a member of squeeze, which was written by Jules Holland. Oh, wow. Okay. Was it A?

Golly, this I don't know. Yeah, this is tricky. A, rock and roll. B, who wants to be a legionaire? C, the practicing clarinet. Or D. Spidey goes to Tobago. Oh.

I think it's the last of them. Let's see. TRPW is doing great. I think Tim is TRPW. Yeah, that's him, yeah. Can you put those choices in the chat so I can see them? Yeah, I totally can. I can or I can either.

way yeah yeah oh there it is right there yeah all right rock and roll who wants to be a legionaire the practicing clarinet that's a good idea spidey goes to tobago um i like also how it changed d colon to that funny face in uh oh yeah yeah that's a twitch thing well i guess at trinidad and tobago yes tobacco tobacco tobacco um based on the titles i would say rock and roll feels like the most jules hollandie of the titles. Let's see if you're right. So I'm going to say A. You are correct.

Nicely done. Gibson Lavis. Gilson Lavis, who was the drummer. He did proxy rock. Chris Differ did the practicing clarinet. And let's see, Glenn Tilbrook did Spide Goes to Tobago. And Keith Wilkinson, who wants to be a legionaire. Nice.

Here's your next one. We're on number six here. So far are you doing good. I've been keeping track, chat. I hope someone's... I think I'm 50-50. I don't think I'm doing that well. But we'll see.

I feel like you're doing better than you are, but maybe aren't. Who directed the award-winning video for the 1987 single hourglass? Shoot. This is interesting, right? Yeah. You got your options. A, a bunch of names I've ever heard of. A. Rick Mayall.

B. Nigel Planner. C. A.D. or A. Edmondson? A.D.E. I don't know how you say that from. Yeah. A. Edmondson or he's, okay. So far, two of these are, oh, maybe all three of the, all four of them. going to be young ones all right keep it going oh it could be and d peter richardson i think those are so eight edmondson was the punker guy from uh oh i loved that show yeah and rick mayall was the new waiver was the the dude who looked like um uh look like adamant yeah yeah yeah it was the really slow one that

sound like this i don't know who that was exactly yes right and nigel that was nigel No, guys, I don't really want to do this anymore. I love the young one so much. All right, so that's really funny that that question. Now, Rick Mayall, so Aid Edmondson is still in a band. He's in a band called a Bad Shepherds. Still doing music and doing some great stuff. Rick Mayall did go into movies and video passed away, but he was Fred and Drop Dead Fred,

which we need to watch for film set at some point. Yeah, yeah, that's a really weird movie. And I think it would be Rick because of the Hollywood connection. So I'm going to say Rick May all directed it. Okay. Let's find out. Whoops. The page just went weird on me.

What happened? What happened? Okay. There it is. All right. Is that correct? It is actually Aid Edmondson. It was Edmondson.

Shoot, that would have been my second guess, yeah. Yeah, pretty cool. All right. Here's your next one. How much did Chris? These are great questions, by the way. Yeah, these are good. I love when he sends these.

These are great. How much did Chris differ to spend on the sweet shop window advertisement card that brought him together with Glenn Tilbrook. I guess it's famous or it must be. But how would you know? Basically, he put a card in the window of a candy shop in Deptford or wherever. Did you say where town? It says sweet shop window and that's it.

Yeah, but basically it was just like guitarists needed for band in a 1977 or something like that. Well, your options are, A, two shillings and six pence, B, 10 pence, C, 50 pence, or D, half a crown. I'm going to say E, mike pence. No, I'm going to say it's, I think it was cheap. I'm going to say it was 10 pence. I have to keep my mic pence in my right pocket because if I, in my left pocket, I keep all my gay money. And he doesn't like being, he doesn't like being in there. Is that where mother can reach in and grab your pence?

Yeah, well, Mother Penny is always in their, mother pence is in the same pocket as him. He can't go anywhere without her. I can't even, in fact, I can't even pay for things unless they're both, it's in the amount of both of them or else forget it. They're just staying in my pocket. Anyway, let's find out. What did you say, sorry?

What was your answer? I said 10 pence. I said it was like basically 10 cents, basically. Let's find out. It is 50 pence. 50 pence. I said he took 50 pence, a piece from his mother's purse to pay the

advertisement card, how much it actually cost is not recorded, but that's what you do. These are deep cuts. I should really I should know this. I wish it was all lyric questions. It says you missed question number seven, by the way. Oh, did I? Oh, you're absolutely right. Let's go back to it. Oh, that's when

the browser went weird. I scrolled past it. Okay, here we go. What was the tenuous connection between the famous producer of part of Squeez's first LP and the band squeeze? Okay, the tenuous connection between the famous producer of part of Squeeze's first LP and then the band itself. Yes.

That famous producer, I believe, is John from Velvet Underground. John, well, we'll get to it. All right, here it is. A, the band's first rehearsal space was in a shop owned by a friend of the producer. B, Squeeze was named after an album by a band by which the producer had once been a member. C, the first time the producer met the band, Glenn Tilbrook was wearing a t-shirt designed by the producer. or D, one of Squeez's first central London performances was as a club owned by the producer. Oh, geez. Good Lord.

I know, this is a hard one. It was a deep cut. So the T-shirt designed by the producer, God, what was the name? John Snow? No, because that's the character from Game of Thrones. Yeah, he knows nothing. He knows nothing. Mike Snow?

Mike Snow. Yeah, he knows nothing. Mike Pence. Jeez. All right. going to be this is going to be a shot in the dark but i'm going to guess because it's related to the t-shirt i think it's going to be uh um i think it's going to be oh c is a t-shirt designed by the producer let's find out if it's c total stab in the dark

it's all right sometimes you got it b no it was b uh squeeze was named after an album by a band of which the producer had once been a member interesting i wonder what that so uh huh One of those people ever were like... Squeezing out Sparks by... I'm going to sue them. I'm going to sue them for using my name. Yeah, no kidding. All right.

All right, so I skip that. These are great. And I love these questions, by the way. These are all very good. Yeah. Okay, final two questions. Let's see. Make sure I did eight.

Yep, I did. All right. Here's number nine. Who's saying the lead vocals on the squeeze hit, Tempted? Oh, thank goodness for this. I don't even need the choices. Paul Carrick.

Oh, my Lord. Look at the speed at which you nailed it. Yeah. Paul Carrick, famously known for How Long by the band Ace, most of the big hits by Mike and the Mechanics. I always think of two songs

from Mike and the Mechanics, so. Yeah, probably, can you hear me running? The Living Year, they're silent running. Yeah, yep. And the living years about his father. You know what is really good? Silent Running from the Gorilla's new album. That song's running.

Oh, really? I wish they did it. It's not a cover of Mike, the Mechanics. As far as I know, I don't think, because it would be so different that I would not recognize. it if it was but it's it's quite good oh my god i love that his choices are paul young who was born in 1947 and paul young who was born in nineteen fifty six now i don't know which paul young is which

i know that one of the paul youngs was every time you go away paul young um every time and then the and then the other paul young was a member of mike the mechanics who's who's now passed away i couldn't tell you which which paul young was born in which year good lord yeah so glad so glad it was not that was not i didn't have to get that that choice all right now here's a fun one okay final question which of these is not a squeeze album all right okay which one is not an album here we go a loves crashing waves b it's a single it's a single okay b spot the difference okay that's their greatest hits album where they redid all their songs to um to get control of the copyrights oh yep that's interesting yeah wow

you can do that you just make it yeah you just make a new album of uh new ver like basically redo your songs and now you've got new recordings that then you can own the masters of what if someone owns the masters to all of tms and we have to go make 2400 episodes again just to reclaim them you know oh god no help

if you want him come and claim him boy i got a lot of game of Thrones on my era game of thrones freaking lord of the rings on my mind anyway love's crashing Waze. B, spot the difference. C. Some Fantastic Place. Okay. Or D. Cozy Fantuti Fruity.

Oh, awesome. All right. So, Some Fantastic Place is an album. The title track, it was written for the woman that I believe talked Glenn Tilbrook into answering that sweet shop ad. Some Fantastic Place, definitely an album. Cozy Fan Tutti Fruity. Also an album. It is

basically a play on the opera Cozy Fan Tudy. And for some reason, because of that name, the Cosmopolitan Hotel in Las Vegas thinks that it's an Italian album. And so it includes it in the secret pizza place in that long tunnel of Italian albums. Really? And you can find Cozy Fan Tudy Fruity by the band Squeeze because somebody there thinks, oh, that's an Italian album.

Let's include that one. I'm going through there next time. and I want to see that. That's amazing. I will point that to you. We are going to make a trip while we're out there because people want to have the verbena. The drink that changes your flavor based on the based on chewing the electric Seshwan button.

That's right. So A, loves crashing waves, which is a single from their non-squeeze album called Differton Tilbrook. Oh, my Lord. You nailed that one. It is correct. I have to redeem myself from some of those earlier questions. It's really good.

Oh, that was an awesome trivia deal there, TRPW. Keep those coming, man. I'd love to pop these in once in a while. Yeah. Like, you know, there's very few bands that I know that much trivia about, and I apparently need to know more trivia about them, but that's a band I know. Like when I, so years and years and years ago,

on Coverville, I would do these things where I would, and there were a lot of indie musicians who were listeners of the show. There were some that I had contact with from doing things, Paul in Storm, Chants in the Choir, people like that. Sure. And so I would do what was called Open Stage. And I'd say, hey, I'm putting together a Talking Heads Tribute album. Do you guys want to be part of it?

And they'd all reach out and say, oh, God, yeah, I'd love to do Psycho Killer. Oh, I want to do this song or that song. And so I've released, you can get them on Coverville, a Talking Heads cover album, a Spinal Tap cover album, and a squeeze cover album. Oh, cool. And Chris Differed from Squeeze, somehow found out about the cover album I put together, emailed me and said, I love this, and I'm going to play this because he was doing solo shows at the time. He emailed me and said, I'm going to do, I'm going to play this before I come out on stage. Oh, no way. This will be the, these will be the songs that are playing before I come out on stage.

It's like a little warm-up playlist or whatever. Exactly, exactly. That's great. super cool that's very cool nice little brush with fame there like that totally like i i plopped my pants scott when i looked at the email and said oh my god chris differed from one of my favorite bands is emailing me holy poop i thought it was a joke at first i thought somebody was punk in me it's not the first time brian's plopped his pants but it won't be the last i plop my pants on a regular basis but it was certainly the most thrilling time that i've ever plopped my pants oh yeah i mean i feel

I feel the excitement just hearing you tell me about it. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, we're going to get some news out of the way before we, uh, yeah, mid-show break. Here we go. It's time for the news, and it turns out it's brought to you by. Our friends at That Story Show podcast, they're sponsoring a comedy story contest where you can win $50 every week.

Visit ThatStoryshow.com and submit your real-life story today. You know, in the 1940s, that was like a month's worth of pay back then. Exactly. And if you're a lift driver, that is a month's worth of pay right there. I don't know. You got to get more highfalut and high-end sex workers because maybe they got a little extra tip. Apparently so. Yeah. Yeah, she didn't tip. That's a bummer. Oh, man. You think she'd be used to the tip, but apparently not. She saw way too many tips that day.

She's exactly. You know what I'm saying? Here's a story about New Mexico. Speaking of sex workers, I don't know why. New Mexico's fine. what it reminds me. I'm breaking bad and candy. That's why I'm thinking. Yeah, that's what you always think of with New Mexico, isn't it? Yeah, I love candy. And the H-bomb. Oh, yeah. That's right. The atomic bomb. I'm sorry, not the H-Bomb. The atomic bomb. Yeah, the bomb that started at all. National laboratories, yes. Christopher Nolan's next film, can't wait. Let's see. New Mexico may become the first state to have an official aroma. Oh, no. Oh, of all states. Well, all right, without reading any of this,

I sure as heck hope it's roasted green chilies. Oh, shit. All right, let's go. Let's go. Brian, you're not, this doesn't give any extra trivia points, but you're absolutely correct. Oh, good. A new bill moving through the New Mexico legislature would make the state the first in the nation to have its own official aroma, green chilies roasting in the fall. Nice.

Ding, ding, ding, ding. Democratic Senator William Souls sponsor the bill 188, which seeks to add to the roster of New Mexico's state symbols. Other symbols include the Yucca Flower, the Roadrunner, Cutthroat Trout, and New Mexico Black Bear. What does Roadrunner smell like? Yeah, I was going to say, what do all these smell like? If the bill passes, state aroma would join some of New Mexico's more unusual symbols, like the Bolo tie, which is the official state tie. I'm so sorry to hear that, really. Any other states have an official state tie, or is it just because the Bolo's popular, they said, let's make the official state tie?

I feel like we got bird, a tree. Yeah, flower. I think that's it. Official state flower motto, of course. Maybe we've got more and I don't know. I guess I haven't paid that much attention to our local stuff. But anyway, they have a,

the air balloon is the state's official aircraft. Is that weird or what? It's so weird. Because they have the annual balloon festival there. I get it. Yeah, it's very weird. It says the fiscal impact report on the proposed a symbol edition noted that it may have a positive, though difficult to calculate impact on tourism to the state.

That's why they usually do these things. They're, see, New Mexico's peak tourist season starts in March and ebbed towards the end of October, typically intersects with the peak of green chili season in the state. The help or the state aroma could help draw visitors away from Colorado, which for some reason thinks it, thinks it has green chili comparable to that of New Mexico, so is the report. They're calling you guys out. We've got very good roasted green chili, but I will say, and kT data i found that list i'm going to quiz scott on these in just a second so don't look at the link

that k t data just said okay i will not look at the kt data's link kevin you may as well have not posted anything i don't see it but when tina was working down in santa fe i went with her on one of her trips and because she'd be down there for like a week so i went with her once took my took my whole iMac i even did tms from the hotel oh this is when you got the blue meth candy yes exactly yeah i love that stuff ate all that I used to have the bag of that over here. I think that's what gave me the pre-diabetic state, is your bag of freaking meth candy. It's basically just rock candy that's blue. But on our way out of town, I said, well, let's swing by and pick up some roasted green chilies.

Because it was the time of the year that they had, every corner had one of those dudes roasting green chilies. So we got a half a bushel of chilies, and it's in a, you know, it's in a plastic bag. And then they put that plastic bag inside a grocery bag and tie it, double tie it shut, right? the plastic grocery bag six hours in the car that made the car smell so amazing and it took months for that

that smell to dissipate but you're good for that right because you don't it's not like Jerry's B.O. car this is a car where you want that odor to stay you want that order to smell yes so fantastic Tina was sick of it but I was like every time we had to drive somewhere like oh let's take your car

so I can smell the green chili smell smell residue kind of with you I like that smell a lot. Well, anyway, they're just giving you shit there in Colorado is what they're doing here. Let them give you shit. All right, you're ready for, uh... Go. I found the official state symbols list of Utah.

Oh, shit. Okay. So obviously, we talked about the bird and the flower and stuff. Do you know, by the way, the official state bird of Utah? It is the California gull. It is. Of all things, the California gull. I don't know if I said this on the show, but it's all for one stupid apocryphal story.

where the pioneers were moving west and they established themselves here they had a really hard winter and when it came time for the corn harvest or whatever they were growing a massive amount of locusts and crickets crickets is what this article was saying

they attacked the crops and they were eating all the crops and then suddenly like a miracle of the sky a ton of seagulls showed up and ate all the crickets and saved the crops. It's like this very deep-seated story here that I think is really kind of mythological, but whatever, and that's why it's the California scene.

It's very like Simpson's Wacking Day kind of, it's got a very Simpson's Wacking Day kind of feel to it. Yeah, and now they're just everywhere. They're like Katie Day says they're in parking lots eating fries. I mean, they're just stupid dirty birds. But it's just funny that it's the California gull. I know, right? We don't even get a Utah.

Utah goal or whatever. You get a Utah goal. How about your animal? What's your official state animal? See, here's where I get in the weeds. Let's see. Oh, gosh, dude. I'll say it.

It's an animal, not a bird. Because a state bird's a mammal. It's a mammal. Obviously, we have the bird. Oh, mountain lion, maybe. No, it is the Rocky Mountain Elk. Oh, shit. I did not know that.

I wouldn't be able to tell you what our official state animal is here in Colorado, so don't feel bad. How about the official Utah cooking pot, the state cooking pot? Lauren Bobert, by the way, is your official, you know. Okay, cooking pot. Oh, it's a Dutch oven. That's exactly right. Well done. Yeah.

A bunch of Dutch immigrants were famous for early settlers here. We're famous for their Dutch oven cooking. And now, you know, I used to go on scout camps and stuff, somebody always brought out of Dutch oven, we'd have one night where we had some buried food, and they'd, I was always worried he was going to get dirt and, like, ashes in it. It was always, always worried. It's amazing food, but, ooh, man. Again, though, taking something that's, you know, named after the Netherlands and calling it your own, Utah. Yeah, there we are again. Plus, then it became what you do to your wife when you're in bed and you fart and hold the covers it out.

Hold the covers overhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dutch oven. Exactly. All right, how about, you mentioned the flower, let's get out of the way, do you know the state flour? Oh, you're about to say it, it sounded like. Siegel Lily? Yeah, Segal Lily. Is that it? Sega, Siluli. Yep.

C-G-O-Lilly. Okay. How about the official state dance? Um, oh my gosh, there's a state dance? Yeah. What would it be here? Um, the Macarena. This officially became the state dance in 1994, apparently.

Oh, geez. The square dance. Shut up, really? Yeah. Who picked this? Somebody in Juab County? You bunch of lameos. Lame. Yes. Let's see.

The official state firearm. Really? Yeah. This one, much more recent, 2011. The Browning M-1911 was made the official state firearm. Sounds like another Jewab County effort to me, but whatever. Okay. Let's see.

Oh, the fruit. What's the fruit? The official state fruit of Utah. The official state fruit. state fruit is the apple you want to say plum don't you oh is it plums no but don't say plums it's not plums i can either take or take nor leave plums uh weirdly it's the cherry oh i almost said cherry i don't know why i almost did cherry trees were given uh by japan just after world war two and uh they lined the utah state capital grounds yeah there's a ton of cherry trees here

and we grew when we were growing up we always had cherry trees so i should have thought of that I would, yeah, I don't know why I would think like Washington. I mean, I guess Apple's got to be the official state. I would have thought, yeah, I would have thought Apple here and more cherry them, but apparently we're weird, so. Insects should be an obvious one. Probably that cricket.

No, no. Actually, it was the honeybee. Oh, shit, because we're the busy bee, the beehive state. Yeah, we do have a lot of bees in the right time of year. The official state reptile. Oh, what? Um, some salamander, something. I don't know. Uh, no, a Yule Monster. Oh, really?

Yeah, 2019. So just three years or four years ago, this was named the state reptile following a lobbying campaign by Utah middle schoolers. Interesting. Well, down in south, southern Utah, you know, where it's basically another planet, we got all kinds of stuff like that. So that makes sense. I've never seen one personally, but, you know, lots of lizards down there. there. We'll do one more just or two more just to get ready for

indie in the middle bit. Um, this uh, okay, this should be an easy one. What's the Utah state song? Oh. Uh. Can you confuse with the Utah state him? Yeah, there's two different things.

Uh, oh, geez. All I can think of is my high school song. Uh, Bejian says, my humps. My humps. My lovely lady humps. Um, shit. I don't know this one. What is it? The official state song is Utah. This is the place.

Oh, shit. It's the whole Bringing Me Youngness is the place thing. But the official state hymn, which used to be the official state song, Utah, we love thee. That I think I knew, but would never have recalled. Yeah, the fourth graders from Davis County changed the song in 2003 because it's just not that much fun to sing. Wow. That's how we make calls here. The kids are a massive force.

political system here in Utah. Apparently so, right? They get to have the Gila Monster. They get to pick a new song. We have more children per capita than any other place in the country. Therefore, they wield a heavy axe when they need to. Apparently, Whitney Houston was talking about Utah when she said that the children were the future.

That's right. Let them lead the way. Or let them change the song because it's boring to sing or whatever the hell they said. All right. There are two official state vegetables. I'll let you choose. Name either one of them. Oh, well, not potato.

because it's not really a vegetable anyway, right? That's a tuber. That would be Idaho. Let's say, what do we grow here? Everything grows here. So it's like, I guess you've got to pick something. Coconuts don't grow there. Oh, that's true.

They don't. Let's go with a, let's just do with a carrot or something dumb. The carrot? The carrot. The sugar beet, which was from 19, or I'm sorry, 1891 until 19, 20. But then because of the blight, now it's the Spanish sweet onion. Oh, once again, taking some other places thing and making it around. Major crop in Box Elder and Weber County.

Oh, my Lord. We were in Box Elder, dude. Those people sitting around eating their sugar beets and they're freaking, I don't know. They're sweet onions, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. For whatever, those are all like retirement communities now. I swear, they're just ancient people living there. but hey that was a fun look at the stuff I didn't know yeah we'll have to do call I haven't looked at Colorado but I wonder how many of the Colorado things I'd be able to name well uh there you have it we are going to take that break you mention we're going to play an indie in the middle and when we

come back we're going to have bill deran here talking about the world of making stuff we'll have bobby for a little science and a little more after that so come on back after this break yeah going over to los angeles for this one a rock quartet called blame my youth they have a brand new single. It's called Prize Fighter. They're going out on tour supporting Hardy on his sold-out Mockingbird and the Crow Tour across the U.S. throughout April. So look for them. Look for Hardy. And you can check out the band, Blame My Youth as the opening act. Here's their brand new single, Prize Fighter. Blood on my shirt, permanent stain, heart broke days again down in pain,

Hold me out the dirt, put me in the rain, say hey boy, come and tie your heart to this chain Those lips never miss point blank, one kiss putting money in the bank I'm yours till they dig my grave until that day I'll be your prize spider I hate Ever gonna die You're gonna face that far all night I'm gonna win cause I got you ringside Rise, spider, not me Duhama Lamauga

Gonna face that fall all night I'm gonna win because I got you ringside With you in my cornerline an ordinary animal Comeback story underdog Knocking him out of cold You pick me up Off the floor He'll the cup

Back for more Rada die Riding to the end I'll be your Cry Spider I ain't Ever gonna die You're gonna face that fire

all night I'm gonna win Cause I got you inside Pride spider Not me Damn I'm a bar riser

Gonna face that fire all night I'm gonna win cause I got you ringside I'll be your prize fighter. I ain't ever gonna tie. I'm gonna face that fire all night.

I'm gonna win because I got two rings. I've prize fighter, not me down, but I'm a riser. I'm gonna face that fire. I'm gonna win Cause I got you inside Prize spider I ain't never gonna die I'm gonna face that fire all night

I'm gonna win cause I got you inside Prize spider Lapped me down but I'm a riser Gonna face that's fire all night I'm gonna win because I got you inside Because I got you inside Because I got you inside Because I got you inside

I'm going to win Because I got you inside Because I got you inside Because I got you inside Because I got you inside I'm going to win because I got you inside To express with the mouth you can use four sounds.

Ooh. Ah. Wow. Sam uses this computer for a process he calls birthing. You saw it off sadistic bastard. You betrayed us. This is the morning stream. And we're back.

I would sure like to know who that was one more time. Yeah, that sounds, by the way, that little clip you played sounded like what happens when you're pulling muscles from the shell. The four ways to express yourself. Hey, that song is called Prizefighter, and the band is Blame My Youth. Wow, I love that idea. It's like, okay, does it, oh, does it hurt here? Ooh.

Okay, how about now? Ah. Oh, and she liked it better there. How about this one? Wow. Okay, well. Yeah, there you go. We pulled it off.

Just keep, keep doing, whatever's, whatever's getting the wow, keep doing that. Keep doing the wow. Keep pulling muscles from that shell.

That's right. That's right. Okay, Bill Duran, Punished Prop's own. Got to find him in the list. There he is. We're adding them to the call. We're going to talk about stuff.

Get creative here, you know. I like getting creative. Creativity drives humanity. Your bat caves open there, Bill. Bill Duran joining us as he does each and every Tuesday from Punishprops.com to talk about the world of creative making stuff.

That's the term we'll give it. And Bill's joining us once again. Hi, Bill. Hello, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good to see you. What comes knocking to the house of Bill this fine Tuesday? Well, we've got a brand new video up on our website and on YouTube.

We had a really fun project that we got to take part in. Oh, tell us more. What'd you do? So the thing we made is the build tool from the game satisfactory. obviously, one of our very favorite games. Sure. And in the game, as the main character, you run around with this tool that you use, you pointed at stuff to create your factories.

Well, we were contacted a few months ago by the company that does all of the official merch for the game Satisfactory, a company called Heroic Replicas. They've been making all the official merch for Coffee Stain for a while now. And they have a new Kickstarter for their new set of merch. They're selling some plushies of the animals in the game, which are very adorable, but they're also selling a replica of the build tool. Pretty interesting that they're using, website, the feud thing up, using the shit, what I was I going to say? Oh, using Kickstarter to do merch launches.

I haven't heard of that before. It's a fascinating tact, I guess, if you're trying to sell stuff. Yeah, well, they have a handful of things that are launching, so there's just different levels on the Kickstarter to get all the different things. Including one of the Rewards is the 3D files for this tool So if you just want to 3D print your own, you can Which I think is really cool that they're doing something like that Yeah, I agree. Did they give you the assets to work with?

Is that how you got the you know? Yeah, so we made a prototype for them to use in their videos to promote the campaign And they sent us the 3D files to print all the parts Along with all of the hardware we would need to put the whole thing together And that hardware includes things like screws and pins, lights. It even has a little analog stick. The build tool has like a thumb stick on it. And so they sent us what I think is like the guts from a PlayStation controller or something,

the analog stick part. Oh, wow. I thought was pretty neat. That's pretty rad. So this, so for those who can't see this, they're just listening to audio, when you play the game Satisfactory, which is fantastic and you should, it's a wonderful game. It should be hit in 1.0 soon. But anyway.

Actually, officially released kind of thing. Yeah, it's still, it's been in early access forever, ever and ever. But I think they're getting close. But anyway, it feels finished to me, but it's this kind of, not multi-tool. What would you call it in the game, what would you call this? I guess it is kind of a multi-tool. It does a bunch of stuff. Right.

And you'll see it out in front of you all the time. And what Bill's made looks like that damn tool. Really? Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. You should play that, Brian. You would love that game, I think. I bet I would. I'm just about, I've got one last quest to complete on Astroner, and...

Oh, Asterneer. It involves me, I know, I have to go back and revisit all the planets and activate their probes. Yep, yeah. Which are all named for, you know, like, the Kepler probe, and they're all named for real probes. I think as soon as I do that, I've completed all of the original content and all the DLC. You've beaten the game, is what you've done. I've completed the game, beat the game. Which is a rare thing for people.

They've added a lot to satisfactory since I've played it last, so I need to play it again. Yeah, they keep adding so many cool things. Satisfactory is just awesome. Oh my gosh. It makes me want to play just watching you build this stupid thing. Beautiful. So how long did the build take if you had to guesstimate? This took us about a week.

A lot of that time was spent waiting for paint to dry. Yeah. How much, I always wondered that. How much time is that? Like how much, for all the projects you do, is most of the time waiting? for something to cure or dry or sit or settle, you know what I mean? Yeah, a lot of times, like, so if we're making molds, most of the time of the silicone and that I use takes at least like 16 hours to cure.

So it's usually an overnight thing or more. Same thing with paint. I like to finish painting at the end of the day and then give it all night to dry if I can. Some paints take longer, though, so you may have to wait longer. This thing's beautiful. I want one. It's a really cool thing. Does it make any sound?

Does it have any flashing lights, you know? So it does have some electronics. It's got a lot of, it's got a lot of stuff built into it where it could have a lot of electronics, but right now it only has lights as far as I know. The one we made only has lights. Sure. That makes sense. You're not going to go too crazy on other stuff.

If it doesn't need it, you know. Right. The lights are really kind of enough. Right. But like I said, there's a little thumbstick in there that can be programmed. There's a circuit board. There's a bunch of things you could do. if you were inventive.

The kit, like I said, was all 3D printed. We used our 6K resin 3D printer. We got a newer 6K resin printer, and that thing was awesome. And the parts came out great. Of course, we had to do a little bit of cleanup. This looks insane. Oh my gosh, look at a little.

That moves on the bottom. Is there resistance on that bottom thing? Yeah, it's got a spring in there. And then there's a little knob that turns as well. Yeah. Moving parts make everything better. I just hold this all day is what I would do. Spin it on your finger, point it to your animals and stuff.

Yep, get holsters for them, make two, you know. Yeah. We're the helmet. This is awesome. The video's up. So if you guys are like, wait, I can't see this. I'm listening to audio. Don't worry.

Get your butt over there and check it out at punchprops.com. It's the latest video. Yeah. And I believe there's like three minutes of bloopers at the end. Yeah, there's a big old bloomer chum. Oh, cool. That's great. I like seeing you screw up, if I'm honest.

Yeah, yeah, it happens more than people think. You know what it's like? It's not one of those like, lose a finger screw-ups. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't want to see that. But I do, you know what it's like? It's like watching those Boston Dynamics robots bloopers where usually the only one to see you're like, yeah, because usually it's like, oh, he just ran the course

perfectly without an error. Oh, the robots, right? And then someone will say, well, there's this. B-roll and then he's just fumbling all over the place and I don't know for some reason it gives me hope and makes me smile so Bill I'm glad you're not a robot and that you're fallible okay I'm glad you

sometimes waiting for the day I want to see the scene from Terminator when all the all the robots are walking across the hellscape and one of them just completely eats it trying to go up the stair or something I want to see that clip his legs are still still moving

like yeah yeah I'm still walking right yeah yeah slip on a skull hole. He just crushed with his foot. All right. Tell us, you've got a little bonus link you'd like to share, don't you? What do you got there? I do, yes. Our friends, Evan and Caitlin, made what they're claiming is the world's largest laptop. Oh, my God. Look at that.

Yeah. She needs to have the world's largest lap, unfortunately. I know, right? She doesn't. Yeah. So to what end? Is it just because we like big stuff, small stuff, like we talked about last week a little bit? Things are cooler when they're way bigger or way smaller than normal. Yeah.

And this laptop is like a 42-inch TV screen or something like that. I love this so much. They should have gone all the way and created a giant keyboard for it. Like, you know, you kick an existing keyboard and just made massive keys for it. I think this was the biggest keyboard they could find. Okay. It's pretty beefy. It's still pretty beefy.

Those keys are large, but I would buy. love this this would be on permanent display and I would invite people over just to see it you would need a room for it oh my lord dude that's amazing massive wow I love that now I want a tiny tiny tiny one that's not even usable

that's what I want now I want all these things all right Bill wonderful stuff as always that's Evan and Caitlin on YouTube if you want to go check that out and Bill DeRan can be found at punish props.com and of course the Punish Props YouTube channel is the place to go sub and check out all the great content. Bill, have a great week and stay out of trouble, will you?

Sure thing. See you guys. Bye now. See you. I mean, it's a pretty big keyboard. I want a keyboard that goes edge to edge and then I want the track pad to be like mouse pad sized in the front middle of it. You're absolutely right. If you're going to go, I mean, I know

nothing about what it took to make what they made. Of course, yeah. I mean, this is certainly not discount the amount of time and work that they put into this. No, but. And it needs to have an equally big, stupid think pad eraser nub joystick thing in the middle of the keyboard

that's the size of a... It would be like a grape, like a fat, big fat grape size. This is tin of mince, just like a big old knob. Exactly. I love it, dude. Love it. Awesome. I wish I had the wear with all to do stuff like that.

I guess I could if I had the time, but I don't. Okay, what are we doing now? Oh yeah, Bobby. Bobby! Oh, yeah. Yeah, Bobby. He's coming in hot. Got some stuff to say. Science. Look who it is. It's Bobby. He comes bearing science. And he's a load bearing wall. And we like having him on. He's a science bearing wall. Yeah, he's a science bearing wall.

Big hairy wall. You like that term? You like being called the hairy wall? Yeah, that was my wrestling name in high school. Oh, great. It sounds like a coach for the. New England Patriots. Oh, yeah, our new coach, Harry Wall. Yeah, Harry Wall. See if you can bring some life to this team. Yeah, we've got a rebuilding year.

Harry Wall is going to turn it around. Bill, it's good to see you, of course, and your hair, but also... It was good to see Bill, wasn't it? Yeah, well, it's always good to see Bill. Did you fly today, or just give us a quick update on the flying. How's going with that? The flying, I did go flying today. It'd been a while since I've been flying because just weather and the plane being in the

shop and everything, but I did go flying today, and it was very windy. It was super windy, and that was, it felt like a roller coaster at times. Oh, gosh. That's not, like, that's something you want. Yeah, no, it wasn't very comfortable.

I want that in my roller coasters, I don't want that in my flights. Yeah, exactly. It's, um, it wasn't very comfortable. We couldn't fly very high either. So a lot of times when you, um, when there's turbulence and a lot of wind and everything, you can fly, you can go up higher and just get out of it and it'll be fine but we couldn't because the cloud deck was around 2,000 feet today so we had to stay at 1,500 to fly and it was just very gusty 20-knock gusts that were that were pretty rough let me ask you a question you call it the cloud deck does that

just mean the bottom of the cloud cover like the yeah cloud the cloud base okay all right um so it was at 2000 and because I'm a I'm learning I'm not an instrument rated pilot I can only fly visual flight rules or VFR so you you can't I can't go through clouds oh I see instrument like could can people who are trained instrument what was the instrument certified or instrument rated yeah instrument rated could they have the windows basically blacked out and fly the plane for the most yeah I mean you have to that's part of what you have to do to fly you don't black out the windows or anything but but you it the point of instrument ratings is so that you can fly in the middle of clouds and you have no visual reference okay so in essence you black it out yourself just by being in

the environment where you yeah and when you're learning it and even i will have to do a few they they do make you do a couple a few hours of flying in um instrument training flying in the the training that i'm doing because just in case you know you have to have been exposed to it Just for safety reason, just if the worst happens and you're in it. And the way that they train you to do that, because you can't just wait until it's really cloudy, right? Right, sure. But the way they train you to do that is they basically give you these frosted goggles to wear. Oh, with a blast shield down, I can't see where I'm sleeping with a night's game, man.

Oh, wow. And so it's these goggles that are all frosted except for the bottom, the very bottom in the middle, so that you can look down your nose at the instruments. Weird. That's like the, it's like VR helmets with a little peeky, a little peeky hole. So a lot of people are really scared of that. I'm actually looking forward to it. I think I'll, I think I'll do all right because the big problem I've had in all these hours of training is I've had the opposite problem where I've had to get better at making sure I keep my eyes outside the windows because I've spent so much time in flight simulator, like Microsoft flight simulator, where you have to look at the instruments all the time.

because you can't feel the plane, you know? Sure. Because it's on a computer. But the, the, so it's been hard forcing myself to make sure I look outside, and I spend too much time looking at the instruments. So I think I'll be pretty comfortable with that. And I will, after I get my private pilots license, that's going to be my next step,

and I'll probably try to do it pretty quickly after I get licensed. I want to go ahead and start training as an instrument to get the instrument rating. So once you... Because you're limited. If you don't have an instrument rating, then the weather can ruin your flying day. You're only able to fly on clear days. Yeah. And so if you had something planned for a week, you know, oh, some people are coming into town.

I'm going to take them up into a plane to the plane and maybe fly a couple cities over, go get some lunch and fly back. If it's just a foggy or cloudy day that day, you just, you're just down. You have to cancel. Yeah. That's interesting. But once you have that, you could do this where people could come and come and, and you'd say, hey, let's go fly over to Greensboro or whatever and get lunch and come back. Like, that will be, you can legally do that at that point.

Yeah. I can't legally do it now, but at that point, yeah, the only thing that'll stop me from flying really are, well, in this part of the country, the only thing I'll have to worry about are like thunderstorms. It always feels like the only time you hear about crashes, not to pee on everyone's parade here for a second. but when you you always hear about these crashes of private planes it's always like um what's his name basketball player can't think he was name all of a sudden Kobe Bryant yeah short little jaunt right went down um not Elvis but uh the the the big bopper those guys yeah get up down like these aren't commercial flights are always these little these little private flights is it just a perception thing is there any kind of correlation between the fact that they are small and is just some

trained pilot. It's hard. It's hard to know because the only thing that you will know from an accident where there's, where no one survives, is the stuff that comes out of the you know, like the flight recorder. Yeah, the flight recorder and any

data that was coming from the plane to out of the plane, right? So it only gives you limited information. What you can't know is what was going on in the pilot's head. Gotcha. That's true. And so a lot of people in aviation it's talked about a lot

that the speculation really is that the reason that it happens a lot there is because of the mind frame of the pilot like a lot of people like there's a lot of your training as a pilot is all about the go no go decision and how to make how to how to how to have good decision making skills and and how to manage

that kind of thing because so a lot of people so the Kobe Bryant thing I heard some people talking about that and they think that probably what happened there is you've got this really famous guy yeah who wants to go and you as the pilot are like do I should I tell

them that this isn't a good idea you know and perhaps they were just flying and we know from the data actually that it was not great conditions to fly in so probably they shouldn't have gone at all and I think that that is probably what happens a lot, is that you get pilots that are overconfident, especially private pilots who've

been doing it for a long time, get overconfident, like, oh, I can handle this. And they can't, obviously, because something happened, you know. Fascinating. Well, all right, there's your flight update. Ladies and gentlemen, please wait until the light is turned off and move about the cabin. Return your tray tables and your Bobby back to an upright position. That's right. Bobby is upright and ready to tell us some science so why don't you lay it on us what are we doing this week you had a question for me that you sent me last week oh yeah i did i thought i would talk about yeah let's talk about that um where is it do you have the audio that you want to play i thought i did don't i because i here it is i have it right here it is i can play it i'm good here we go so this is something

i got off of that documentary i watched i recommended it on the show called our universe and it was um what's us speak uh i can't think of names today it was wrong with me uh terrible Andy de Frein thought that day Morgan Freeman Morgan Freaking Freeman Jeez Anyway I'm thinking Christian Slater

For saying Greetings and salutations Now we're going to watch The Canadian goose As it makes its Yeah Oh my God That's easy to slip into a Jack Nicholson

With Christian Slater Yeah they kind of do each other Anyway here is that audio Hail Maybe Why isn't it playing Okay it's not playing Let me just re-get it.

Okay, that's weird. It should have played. All right, I'll play it here. Our son blasts out the energy of four and a half trillion atomic bombs every second. Okay. Is that? I assume it's true because that seems like a vetted documentary where all that stuff is checked out. But that seemed like, let me just let this sink in.

Our son blasts out the energy of four and a half trillion atomic bombs every second. Brilliant. trillion atomic bombs per second. Four and a half trillion atomic bombs every second. Is that true? Yes. Well, to jump right to it, yes. That is totally true.

Morgan Freeman is a big fat liar. Yeah, that liar. Yeah. I've seen him in movies. You never know what's going on with that guy. No, that just seems insane amount of energy. Yeah, he ad libbed that line and they just didn't check it. no that is crazy it is crazy and so you sent me that and you you just you're just asking me like

like you you're like hey is this true holy cow and i said yes it's and let's talk about it on the show because it's really the reasons why and all that how stars work in the sun and everything is very fascinating thing to talk about i agree um but uh the energy of an atomic atomic bomb will start there a typical atomic bomb would be about four uh 4.184 times 10 to the 12 joules of energy, that's quite a lot. That's four with 12 zeros after it. That's how many joules of energy. And the energy of the sun that's put out every second is a four with 26 zeros after it. So that's a lot of energy, right? So it's a lot more energy. So it's a lot more energy. And there are a couple of reasons why the sun puts out so much energy.

First of all, it's fusing. So an atomic bomb, what it's doing is it's, it has a type of energy that it's, that it's, that it's, that it's, that it's, what it's doing is fusion or it's, it's, or I'm sorry, it's backwards. It's doing fission. It's fission and fusion are easy to confuse because they decided to make those words sound very similar. but fission is what's going on inside an atomic bomb and that's where you're splitting an atom right you hear split the atom sure so it's just a bunch of energy from when you take an atom and split it in half there's a lot of energy that's holding that those quantum particles together so if you are able to somehow get them to split a lot of energy is released and then a chain reaction happens that energy that's released causes the next one to then split to then split and so on and so forth. But the point is that when you split the atom, a lot of energy is released.

But believe it or not, when you force two atoms, the opposite of fission is fusion, where you take two atoms and smash them together, and they form a new atom. Maybe counterintuitively, when you do that, when you take two atoms and fuse them together,

it actually creates even more energy. and that's what's going on inside the sun is fusion so the sun as as John Flansberg and John Linnell they might be giants famously taught us that the sun is a massive

incandescent gas a gigantic nuclear furnace so it's fusing hydrogen into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees yeah. Sorry, I just had to finish it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Needed some closure on that song. I appreciate that. I needed it. I was, if I was going to be in my head until I finally got closure.

Yeah. So our star is young. You've heard that before, right? It's a young star. Yeah, it's a young star. It's like a, it's like a Bella Ramsey. It's like a Jonas brother. Yeah, it's like a Jonas brother or Bella Ramsey or somebody like that. A young star just getting started, you know. Yeah, go far. Yeah. I'm changed by space. In the early stages of a star, what happens is a bunch of hydrogen comes together, it coalesces this hydrogen gas and it forms a big glob and then more and more collects the gravity pulls it together and it pulls into this giant spherical clump that we eventually will call

a star, but it doesn't become a star until there's enough of that hydrogen that smashes together and the force of that gravity gets so heavy that under its own gravity. don't know if you really think about it a lot i don't think i don't know if like when you really think about this this is an amazing fact to me that the thing that ignites a star is simply the fact that there's so much of it that it's the gravity is pushing so hard that it it lights on fire like that's that's all that happens that's how a star ignites uh and so that's the the gravity of all that hydrogen together has pushed so hard on itself

that the hydrogen atoms start fusing together. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And they make helium. The hydrogen atoms, it doesn't happen immediately. It happens in several steps. It actually makes a couple of different types of hydrogen and then eventually they all start to fuse together and

form helium atoms. If I was on the sun, if I could stand the sun, you know, and be there, would I just be like this the whole time talking like this because there's so much damn healing? Does it all the helium? Yeah. Is that what would happen? I don't think it has a helium atmosphere though, right? It's just the... I don't think it has an atmosphere.

If you're on the surface of the sun, that's a good question. The atmosphere, does it have an atmosphere, like, of a sort? Yeah, it sure it does. There are different layers to the sun's atmosphere. In fact, it's hotter on its surface in that atmospheric part than it is below the surface inside. Oh, wow. Interesting. Below the surface would be hotter.

Interesting. I think when you get all the way deep down it might be hotter than that but there's just different heats happening at different layers and it takes a long time for things to... Because everything's fusing in the middle of the sun, right?

Yeah. And creating tons of energy. And during that fusion process, so when you have the hydrogen atoms and they fuse together, it creates helium. The reason it creates helium is because and is because of the energy that's released. So, you know that atoms are

up of like different types of subatomic particles right like like like quirks and and um different types of things like that well whenever the whenever the two hydrogen atoms smash together um it kicks out different uh quantum particles like positrons and neutrinos and and photons the photons that get kicked out of the of during this fusion process that's what we see as light and then the other energy comes from the positrons, neutrinos, the gamma rays and everything like that that get shot out. But because it loses those things, one of those hydrogen protons gets turned into a neutron

and then it creates a helium atom. Anyway, the point is that it eventually, that's what also keeps... So if there was no fusion, if fusion was, If fusion wasn't a thing, this is interesting, is that all that hydrogen would keep compressing down on itself and it would eventually just smash down into a single, smaller, solid ball of hydrogen, or if it was big enough, it would form into a black hole, right?

So it's the perfect, it's like the little pig that had just, or not the bear that had just the right porridge or whatever, right? Right, right, right. Well, yeah, so, so, It's a bad analogy, but you know what I mean? Like, it's the perfect combo in the middle. It's the perfect amount of, yes. Yeah, not too big, not too small.

Yeah, yeah, there's a balance that's happening because the reason why all that hydrogen is not compressed down into a small ball, like a black hole, the reason that that doesn't happen is because of all the ignited, exploding, fusing hydrogen. So all that energy that is released from all those fusion reactions exerts a pressure outwards and it balances out the force of gravity pulling it in and it's just careful balance that makes the sun stay at this steady, you know, size. It's kind of like a balloon in a way that's pushing out. And eventually, this is a cool thing about the life cycle of a star, eventually that hydrogen will run out. out or it'll run low and it won't be creating enough fusion energy on the inside and that's when you send killian murphy and a whole ship crew of people out to the thing to fix it and you hope that captain america doesn't get frozen from the waist down and uh and hydrogen hot water or cold water whatever the hell that was yeah that's happened before watch sunshine you guys a great movie that movie

holds up it's awesome anyway but yeah so so yeah the hydrogen will eventually run out or run low if humans are still around that's it for us we're done then right well no not exactly well i think actually yes that's not the end of the star though because i think at that point it becomes a red giant because which seems weird because i just said that the the energy won't be enough anymore to hold it up right because it'll run out of hydrogen so you would imagine gravity will win in that gravity will say aha there's not enough of this energy pushing up against me so now everything's getting pushed down I win and pull everything in, but then what happens is all those helium atoms now get compressed hard enough together

because of the force of gravity that they start to fuse. And it pushes out again, and that's when it puffs out into a red giant. I think that will consume the Earth. Yeah, I think it's supposed to grow big enough to engulf the first three planets, if I remember. Yeah, exactly. If I remember my animation from Cosmos correctly, then that's...

Right, Carl Sagan taught us all of this stuff. He really did, yeah. Yeah, and did it in ways most of us could grasp. I miss that guy. We're all little dandelions floating on the wind. The cool thing, the cool thing is that, so that all happens, right? Helium starts fusing and making more elements like carbon, and then helium and carbon fuse to make oxygen,

which then fuse with helium to make neon. And it goes on all through these things to make more and more stuff. It's all these different phases of making new elements until eventually all these elements get made, And every step of the way, the gravity gets greater, right? And once the fuel runs out and it starts fusing new elements, until it gets to iron, until iron starts to be made in the core. And that's the end of the line. Yeah.

You can't smash down the iron hard enough for it to fuse it together. Right. So that's when once all the, once the core is full of iron and there's not enough, there's no more, not enough helium and other elements to fuse to make energy. Because remember, this is all that balance, right? All this energy being made is pushing against the gravity. Well, once there's not enough energy, any fusion energy anymore to push against the gravity and it's just all ironed, then the whole thing collapses down. And this happens in, I think, like, like an hour. Really?

Really? That quick. Once you get to the end, it all happens very fast. The whole thing just collapses down into the center of the iron core of the sun. and that compression of the gravity pulling on everything pulls it so fast that a giant shockwave explosion happens as it all comes into the center

and that's a supernova. And that'll wipe us all out. We're all done for that, right? Yeah, we'd be done already, but yeah, if there's... Even if it just got, see, this, I always wondered about this. If it suddenly just went cold, let's say within an hour, would people in Minnesota even know

that it's happening? Would they know? not for seven minutes yeah it just feels like they would be like what's the big deal what's the problem everybody because it's something I'm cold they might feel

they might feel it but they would they would they would put their noses up at everybody else who was complaining about it they'd say oh yeah oh this isn't cold

you should have seen the winter I spent here in 1993 back in on five yeah it's you guys just don't know how to drive in this now that's what that's what we well that's fascinating so if that ever does happen we won't really even know because it'll be so instantaneous we're all out we're just done right well we'll be long gone by them because the once it runs out of hydrogen the earth is toast yeah well the opposite of toast we're big frozen we're bread that's frozen and then we'd be that cold piece of bread that's left on your plate when you leave the perkins yeah we'll be like the the three-year-old wonderloaf that's in your freezer still

and has freezer burn, but that's what we'll be. We're going to look like Jack Nicholson out in that damn maze thing. Hedge maze. Yeah, I can't wait. Let me tell you, though,

now that you know about the supernova and how once you run out of energy and the iron core, everything collapses and then the whole thing explodes, once you know how that works, it's really cool and interesting to think about what a black hole really is. If the star is big enough,

and our star is not big enough for this to happen, but if the star is big enough then when it collapses down like that and that supernova happens there will be enough stuff in the center that it won't all explode and a lot of supernovas by the way leave behind a neutron star

which is just really small it's just a bunch of stuff that's left behind there's no more bunch of gas it's basically just a bunch of literally what it is is a bunch of neutrons that are all together but if star is big enough there will be enough of those In a neutron star, the reason it stays as this ball of neutrons is because at a quantum level, the nuclear forces that are involved will not allow these neutron particles to get closer together.

They just won't. They cannot physically get closer together. They're so dense and packed, and they just, the forces will not, it cannot get closer together. Right. Because of the atomic level, they're already nearest neighbors. They can't move any, there's no more. The forces are so strong there that they cannot be pushed closer together. It's just a law of nature, except for if the star was big enough and there is enough stuff there, the gravity will be so strong that even those neutron, they're called degenerate forces, even those degeneracy forces are overcome. and those particles get smashed together and force together. And once that happens, it's game over. It doesn't stop. That's why they say that a black hole is a single,

it's all that matter condensed down to a single dimensionless point, like a single point in space. It's because it doesn't stop. If you overcome that force, there's so much matter there, it will not stop. And that's the part that even physicists have a hard time wrapping their heads around. You just have to trust the math, you know, because that is so counterintuitive. How can everything get compressed down to a dimensionless?

It has no height, width, length, nothing. It's a dimensionless single point in space. Look, the soon as I accepted Matthew McConaughey spent seven extra minutes trying to do a thing, and that meant like 100 years went by, I was, I'm good for anything now. like whatever right once you get your head around some of that relativity stuff and how it might work everything else seems like nothing so everything else is all right all right right yeah you could eat a peach for hours i don't know why i said that anyway um just what i'm always think of that when you do that all right or right i think of nick cage saying that i don't know why weird okay all right

can't explain it uh well all right this is fascinating and uh i hope people enjoyed science class today there will be a quiz and uh i trust you all do well on the on the on the on the the test at the end of the quarter. Okay. Hey, Bobby, there are other cool science topics being discussed all the time on a little show you make called All Around Science. Tell us about it and what's on there this week. Yes, my podcast that I do with my co-host, Mora, is called All Around Science. We talk about science stuff every week, just whatever we find interesting news, other interesting topics. This past week, the episode that just came out yesterday, we talked about a topic that on the surface sounds really technical and everything. It's called viral interference.

But it's actually a really fascinating thing that you may have noticed but don't realize. And it's the thought that have you ever noticed that when you get sick with something, let's say you get a flu or even a cold, you don't get sick with something else? While you're, yeah, usually not. Oh, yeah, right. Almost never. Now, some people do, and those people are usually immune compromise. and we talk about that. But a typical healthy person like you and I,

if you get the cold, you usually don't get the flu and the cold at the same time. Or you don't get COVID and the flu. Sometimes you might back to back them, but even that's hard to do. Even that's not very common. Because I'd assume that it's, well, and we'll find out on all around signs,

but I assume it's because white bud cells are currently in overdrive protecting you? That's certainly part of it, but there's a lot more to it than that. And the teaser here is that it has to do, the viruses themselves have ways of pushing out and preventing other viruses from getting in. Like, they're very territorial.

Like, one at a time, please, stay behind the rope. Yeah, exactly. I remember when I was at. When I was a teenager, there was a time where I had a cold, a bad one. And all my sisters got diarrhea in the bar. And I remember thinking, I'm so lucky I got the cold first because I didn't understand this concept then, obviously. But intrinsically, I kind of got the idea that, well, I'm busy fighting this.

I don't have time for that. And I loved it. I was like, you guys, spend all day on the bathroom floor. It's too bad, too sad for you. Yeah, it's so funny. You mentioned that because Mora talks about that. Everyone in her house got sick. And she, you know, everybody else got one thing.

She got another thing. And she makes this great analogy when it comes to viral interference to, um, to a, a heist. The virus is doing a heist in your body and competing heist people. I love it. I love it. This is the sequel to the sequel to Heat. It's all around science. Yeah, go check it all around science. Wherever podcasts are available. And you will not go wrong if you are into more scientific talk. Bobby, thanks for hanging around with us. Thank you. Thank you, Bobby. We'll see you next time. See you, Bobby. Oh, it didn't kick us. Thank goodness. Cool. Although, oh, wait, maybe. Kick us.

Oh, it still did it. it. Frick. It rebooted it. Are you there? It rebooted it. I thought it didn't do it, but it did. It's only with Bobby.

Weird. I do it with Tom. Well, no, it did it with Tom last week, too, didn't it? I think it did. I can't remember. It did it with somebody last week, and I can't remember who it was. It may have been both. All right.

Well, I have a new plan to deal with that because I know how to keep it up without canceling it. Fix it that. Fix that. All right. Let's be done with that and move on to a couple of quick reedy things here. For example, a text from Angry Bob. And he was talking about Antarctica and sent kind of the polls. And we were talking about like how stuff worked over there or whatever and how they got mail.

And he says two things. U.S. stations in Antarctica get mail same way military does overseas. There's an FPO AP address. So that's interesting. Number two, maybe all dynos were gathered at. at their port and killed by asteroids, we'll never know. I'm not sure what that's a reference to. I don't either.

Oh, was it the guy that says, where are the Native Americans? Where's the ports? Where's the cities? Oh, yeah, maybe. But then... But the dinosaurs weren't here then, so I don't know what that is.

Yeah, I don't know. Angry Bobby had a weird night. That night you sent this, but I appreciate it anyway. So apparently you can send mail to the Antarctica. Yeah. Sure. So, Brian, if you're ever in the mood, just send a little love letter down there, whatever.

I've got a listener, a Coverville listener, who's stationed at the, uh, the, was the bird, um, The bird? The bird observatory, because he was the, uh, explorer who went there. Andrew, not Andrew Bird. Andrew Bird? Shoot. Is that his name? I know it's not Larry Bird and I know it's not, uh, oh, I wish it was Larry Bird.

It would be great if it was Larry Bird. But anyway, he's stationed there and he sends me, he sent me a photo of him wearing his coverville T-shirt. standing in front of the pole. That's great. The actual spirally north pole pole that somebody put up there. That'll be, that'll probably be, correct me if I'm wrong, that'll probably be the closest you'll ever get to that pole. Is that sure?

For sure. That's amazing. Although, believe it or not, there is an island covered with penguins called Coverville near Antarctica. And it is on my bucket list to go to Coverville Island. Oh, that's a place? Yeah. I love that.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, yeah, there's a forest called The Instance, and I hope I get to go there one day. Just kidding. Excellent. Excellent. Then we got an email from D. He said, we got to get that D. He says, about Toro. This is the car rental thing.

Yep. Is it Toro or Toro? Turro. Oh, he, okay. I spelled it wrong. He says, hi, Scott and Brian. We was just listening to TMS 2423, where Brian was talking about the wonders of Turro. Just a quick warning for Brian.

I used to work for a toll agency, and this may be a non-issue there, as I am unsure of what the toll situation there is in Denver. But be very careful with this. We had several owners of vehicles called in ticked-off for toll violations. Turro contacts are not accepted at some agencies to prove who was driving. Toll violations could go to registration holders all the way to garnishments and vehicle owners, not drivers, if left unpaid in certain parts of the country. Like I say, I may not be an issue there, but it is worth looking into before you sign up.

Sorry, so long pay the toll, though. That's a really good point. Do you have toll? Oh, you do have. We have toll roads. Yeah, 470 and Northwest Parkway are toll roads or across the north side of Denver. I use those all the time for Lyft. And because of that, I actually have a toll RFID tag in my windshield that reduces the price that I pay for tolls.

but this is something very important for me to have on there that if I rent the car to somebody, there needs to be a form that says you'll be responsible for the discounted price of any toll trips you take through the toll roads. Interesting. That's a good point. Okay.

Yeah, we don't have those here at all. So you'd be safe in Utah, but I don't know what the... It's all about responsibility, right? Do they put it on you or in every state's probably different because we all have our dumb laws? um so who knows i still think that sounds like such a cool thing i was talking to kim about it just seems like a fun smart way to it does yeah yeah i've got my outside photos taken of the car i need to do some major cleanup on the inside of my car here's the fun thing uh i really wrestled with

all right well i've got this awesome oingo boingo sticker the tv zgon made for me in the back window another a shield logo on the other side do i do i do i do i take those off, don't want to. Do I Photoshop them out of the photograph? Don't want to do that either. Do I just leave them so that people can be in a car that

likes Oingo, Boingo, and Shield? At the same time. Yeah, which is what I think, you know, I'm not taking my stitch, bubblehead out of the front of it either. They've got to deal with that. No, leave that in there. Keep bubbling. Stitch. Exactly. The LC-9 in the chat reminds me

We do have fast pass for HOV lane use here, but I don't think that's applicable in this case Because that's just a similar thing though. One of our like one of our major tolls in Denver is a is an H.OV lane and a couple of the major highways. And my toll license toll RFID tag applies to those as well. So kind of similar, yeah. All right. Well, my guess is Western states are going to have an easier time with this problem.

Eastern states have tolls everywhere. So, curious stuff. Anyway, thank you, D. For saying that in. If you'd like to be like D, you can send emails to the morning stream at gmail.com, or you can text us like Angry Bob did

at 801-471-0462. Your voicemails are also welcome. Yeah, we welcome. We invite and welcome your voicemails. We don't turn them down. We accept them. We embrace them. We play them.

And we get naked with them. All right. That's going to be it for our show. today I want to thank two brand new patrons who joined since yesterday. Ivy Snow and Timothy Grigas. You guys are rad. Very cool. Yeah, I love it. Love new people and I would love it a few other people would become new people over at patreon.com slash TMS. If you don't want ads, you're good. That's where you get them. It's where you not get ads. You want art in the mail. That's another place to get that. You want tea. You want pre-show content every day. How about

some couch parties on the weekend or this weekend? We're going to do a play date that time of the month everybody for play date probably explore explore some more of the new jackbox yeah we didn't get through them all did we no think we missed like three of them anyway i think so yeah with one of those one of those jackbox games was a beast as far as how many rounds and turns it was so yeah it was huge so we'll end up oh and then we got kicked out of one of them because it crashed oh right yes yeah that game some stability issues on that game but anyway uh we're going to check those out and play this weekend. Well, how is all this possible because you're members of our Patreon group over at patreon.com slash TMS and a reminder to join the community and have a chat over at frogpence.com

slash discord. All right. We're done. Let's go. We need a song, though. I don't have a song. You probably have a song, though. Oh, I've got a song. Hey, what a lucky coincidence. Yeah, Amy wrote in and said, this is for my husband, Alan's birthday. He's a longtime listener and patron of the podcast. She listens to Skim. Amy does. Alan is an amazing. Alan is an amazing husband and father to our two little girls and we wanted to wish him the best birthday. Love Amy, Evie, and Veronica.

Let's party. There you go. Nice. Amy, you still need to get him a present and a card. This does not count as either of those two things. Sorry, just going to say. Amy wanted to hear something that I'm surprised we haven't

played on the show before. It is the most famous cover of somewhere over the rainbow. done by a sadly passed away, but very talented, incredible performer from Hawaiian named Israel Kamak Avila, or is, as for sure, as he goes for short, but I had to memorize and learn that last name, pronunciation of that last name for Coverville because people gave me shit about not being able to pronounce. It's a hard one, man.

That's a tricky one. It's a tough one, Israel Comic and Vivalole. Anyway, here, I wonder if Randy, we've got to ask Randy if he can do it. tomorrow or Nicole get Nicole to do it even better oh gosh even better all right so going out to amy and allan this is somewhere over the rainbow by israel one more time i get to say it coming can we vali Somewhere somewhere over the rainbow way of the rainbow way of high high. And the dreams that you dream of once in a love abide.

Somewhere over the rainbow bluebirds fly And the dreams that you dream of, dreams really do come true. Someday you wish upon a star, wake up where the clouds are far behind. be where trouble melts like lemon drops High above the chimney top that's where You find me oh Somewhere Over the rainbow

Bluebirds fly Dream that you did too, oh why, oh, why can't I? Oh, someday I wish upon a star, wake up where the clouds are far behind. We were trouble melts like a lemon drops, high above the chimney top that's where you'll find me somewhere over the rainbow way up high

and the dream that you dare to why why can I I This is part of the Frog Pants'neport of the Frog Pants Network. at frogpants.com. My only oath is to the stool.