The Morning Stream - TMS 2426: Almond Taylor Joy

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

Yellow Bag of Sadness. M-m-m-my granola. Limp Peanuts. There were FORK heads! Fetching Bottled Dasani for the Hobbits. house smells like Deez Nuts. Slippy finger in the bath. Jazz Hands Are Always Confusing toe. Hot Pockets for Neve Campbell. Can't Get Past the Past-ah. Looking for other Forks! WHERE'S TYNE DALY?! Everyone Needs a Plucky Kid. No offense to Tina Yothers. Judgy Granola. The Golden Corral of Tech News, Tom. Everyone repeats Nicole's recommendations and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, yellow bag of sadness. Mamm my granola. Limp peanuts. There were forkheads. Fetching bottle de Sani for the Hobbits. House smells like D's nuts. Slippy finger in the bath. Jazz hands are always confusing.

Hot pockets for Nev Campbell. Can't get past the pasta. Look for another fork. Where's Tyne Daly? Everyone needs a plucky kid. No offense to teeny others. Judgey Grinola. The golden corral of technique.

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. Dream for, what is it? February 22nd, 2023. Oh, man, it'd be a 2222 last year. We had it today. It's a bummer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but tomorrow we'll have a 2.23.23.23. That's not bad. We'll have that. We'll have that. Is that all right? Yeah, I'll take it. I think I'd prefer a 323, 23, you know? Well, sure. Which we'll also get. We'll have one of those, yeah. We'll have one of those in exactly a month. I assume there's a show that day. Who knows? I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott and Brian.

I don't know if you noticed here, but at the top of the show there, this pasta thing. The pasta. So that's how the Canadians, oh, sorry. That's how the Canadians say, because that's a commercial from Canada. I'm sure some Canadians heard it. Probably Jeff Seyer heard it and went, oh, my gosh, I've heard of McCain's pasta or, sorry, pasta commercial in years. That Talley says, no, it's not. According to Bo it is, he says it totally is.

He says pasta like that? He says pasta like that? he says Mario instead of Mario what else there was another one he gave me but yeah I don't know if it's like a certain region of Canada but he says pasta and he was not surprised at all that the commercial said pasta he's like oh yeah that's what we call it up here so listen to strike me down my pasta magic will be stronger than you could even imagine that's right that's right maybe maybe listen tally you're a transplant okay you came from here you came from America maybe you had an influence You brought the right way to say pasta with you. Yeah. And now you're there and your family. Good job. Well done.

We got a show to do. I guess I should get this out of the way because this is kind of when I do this. But I had a dream. All right. It was a weird one. So I got to share it. This was a nap dream music. We need like a dream stinger song.

I know. I don't really have anything good. I'll come up something. But I had a dream that was during a nap that I took in the 45 or 40 minutes I had before play retro. yesterday i was like you know what i'm going to catch a quick one so i hit the couch i thought i'd be nice and refreshed when i got up instead i had this weird dream where it was revealed that everybody in the entire world had fake heads on so you pull your head off like a mask almost like uh okay

like a mission impossible style where it a little bit looks completely and totally real until you start pulling it off and then it's rubber a little bit except it's the entire head kind of comes off and underneath there is a overly large, four-pronged fork, the kind you eat with. So everybody's got forkheads except for me, you, who's in this dream, and parrots. Because all the animal kingdom, all other birds, every other thing that lives. They were all forkheads. They were all forkheads. And then it was just me, Brian, and the parrots versus all the forkheads.

and the dream featured a lot of running around and like trying to get away and fighting and the forkheads coming after us and us trying to fend them off and survive and see if we could find other non-forkeheads out there. What about Tyne Daily? It seems like if there's anyone who might not be a forkhead who would be Tyne Daily.

I mean, all right, if she was alive and around in the world, maybe, but I never did find Tyne Daily in this dream. You should have looked because that would have been... I should have, you know? I would have been more thoughtful during my dream. I would have looked for Tyne Daily. But what is time? I wonder if Tyne is short for something.

I don't know. I've never, it's a weird name, right? It's a weird name. T. Y. And why her brother got Tim and she got Tyne? Like, what's that about? Right.

I forget. I always forget that Tim Daly is her brother. Yeah, they're just siblings doing what they do. The winged brother. Yeah, he always plays, he plays Batman a lot. Or not Batman. Superman a lot in the animated Superman movies. Oh, does he have the voice?

Sure, that makes sense. He's got a good voice for it. He's very good. You know, he's got all that flying experience from wings. Yeah, of course. But anyway, if anyone has any ideas, why forkheads, I cannot figure this one out. This is, the cards are no help. I've looked at the cards again, no help.

Those cards are meant for normal people. I don't know. I mean, yeah, you've just got to really get general, I guess, right? Because if you're looking for the word fork, you're probably not going to find it. But maybe you look for people's heads replaced by something else. or something like that. Yeah, I wonder if I can do like a Google search. Like, Forks as Heads in Dream.

Just see if we get anything. There you go. Or any utensil. Well, let's see. There's a site called Dream Christ. Oh, geez. Let's take a look at this. Eight Fork Dream Interpretation, or sorry, forked dream interpretation.

A dream with forks represents a fundamental problem in your life and how, what, and how you do and what you do to reach. The fork is one of the tableware that makes. many people use to this day. This tool works by piercing or cutting food. Thanks. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm sure every single dream interpretation thing begins with, this represents a fundamental problem that you're having in your life.

Yeah. You need to figure out. It's like Chad GPT made this up, I swear. Yeah, I'm sure. By the way, go ahead. I was just going to say, the fork in a dream symbolizes that you have succeeded in an understanding to make changes and achieve happiness. You must try to pay.

pay attention to all the details of your dreams and current conditions to find out what you have to change. The fork symbolizes your personality or character, work, or family. If you have dreamed of a fork and you want to know its meaning, here are a few dreams about forks. And then there's a list, lost fork, gold fork, dirty fork. Oh, and like you're ordering a dream from a menu? Oh, I'd like that one, please. Let me have the, uh, you know, the olive garden fork dream. Well, the closest one here, so there's, I'll read these real quick. Dream of a broken fork, dream of a fork and spoon, of a lost fork, of a gold fork, a dirty fork, a rusty fork, someone attacking you with a fork, and a fork and a knife. So I think it's seven.

No bean fork, no bean fork. That's a shame. But dream of somebody attacking you with a fork is close, because they were all like trying to stab us with their revealed forkheads while we were running around in the dream. oh gosh really yeah so it was like the last of us it was like you me and a bunch of parrots and everybody else's work i you want you want my interpretation here's exactly where it came from guaranteed go you were thinking about that drawing you did of the dude with a pencil for a head and it's not a far stretch to have like a fork yeah probably not and i've even i probably have even driven people with forks coming out of their heads maybe not in place of their heads oh yeah

you were probably thinking of that album cover too, the Scorpion's album cover. Oh, with the on the eyes. Yeah. I forgot about that. Okay, fair enough. We were just talking about that the other day too, weren't we? Yeah. It's got that song, Arizona, such a good song in there. Oh, my gosh.

Arizona, take up your rainbow shades. I'm sure that's the one. Definitely the one. 100% the scorpion song that you're thinking of. Here, okay, so it says, dream of somebody attacking you with a fork, and here's their description. If somebody's hurting you with a fork, this is a signal that someone is hostile to you, really, really. If someone attacks me with a fork, they're being hostile towards me.

Oh, that's a big leap there. Whoa. I don't even know how to translate that. It says it will only make you feel inadequate and insecure besides causing stress and a lot of worries. Yeah, right. Okay. It says here at the end, it would help you if you try to identify who caused it and get away from them as quickly as possible. That way you'll be able to find peace without worrying about what you,

other people have to say. Just think about yourself and stay away from everything that hurt you. Yeah, okay. All right. I think I just dreamt of dudes with forks on their heads and I maybe had something weird for lunch. That's it. That's it. Yep.

Yep. Did you eat lunch with a fork? There you go. That's probably it. I think I did. Well, actually, no. I had Kim made that Tom Yum again or we had more of it left. Yeah, a spoon.

Yeah, at a ramen spoon type looking spoon with a hook on it. Ooh, those are the best. Yeah. Nobody had those heads, as far as I know. Maybe if I'd have gotten deeper in the dream, you and I'd have been around a campfire trying to figure out how the did deal with this new world we're in. And then you would have suddenly pulled your head off and it was a, it was a spoon. Oh, no. Black mirror.

Yeah. Brian's a spoon. All right. Spoon. We got a question from a listener who sent us a voicemail at 8014710462, and I'm going to play it today. This is about interiors of 80s homes. It's kind of a strange thing. take your calls however they come here you go hey this is adam from texas love the show guys hey quick

question i'm a big fan of 80 sitcoms especially the designs of their house now hypothetically if you could design the inside of your house um for an 80s um house family sitcom what would it be would it be the tanners that's the elf house would it be the cosby's the cosby show or the keetons from family tides all three have wonderful houses i thought um If you could spend a year living with him, who would you want to live with? All right, guys, first time call her, I'm a little nervous. Sorry if it doesn't smell right. But I love the show.

I will always listen to you. Thanks for all the smiles and laughs. All right. Bye. You did just fine. He shouldn't have been nervous at all. Okay. Show me that smile.

I'm going to pick off the board and go to the Growing Pains House. Oh, the Growing Pains. That's just because you want to be around. What's her name? Can't think of her name. Meredith Baxter Bernie? No, the daughter. No, Justine Baitman, sure.

Yeah, no way. Meredith Baxter, Bernie, is now a little bit more age-appropriate for me. Sorry, it's, yeah, that's true. I'm trying to think. Justine Bainman was family ties. Oh, you're right, you're right. Yeah, I'm certainly not like, oh, Tina Yathers. Hey, hubba, hubba, ha, ha, blah.

She's a real, no offense to her, but she was not the good-looking one. No, I mean, she was the plucky kid. Yeah, and that's fine. Everyone needs one. It's fine. Yeah. I think she's in radio now. if I know my stuff, she was, she had a problem with substance abuse for a while and then got

into radio and, uh, who's since cleaned her life up. If, if I'm, if I'm not getting her confused with somebody else and completely slandering the good name of Tina Yathers. I thought it was the girl from the, the growing pains girl that had the problems. No. Isn't Tina Yathers the growing pains girl? No, it's, um, oh, geez. No, Tina Yothers is, oh, right. She's a fan of, she's, family ties. She's the little sister. She's family ties. I'm totally, this is again, we're doing the, yeah, Tracy Gold. I'm sorry, it's Tracy Gold. That's it. I am slandering the name of Tina Yother's. I think it was Tracy Gold that actually had the

substance abuse. Oh, now I'm not sure. I think I'm pretty sure that was her, but yeah, I could be wrong. Anyway, it was Tracy. I had my own little pumba, pumba moment there with the, uh, with those two shows. Well, it's been like 35 years, you know. It has. And those, you know, You could describe any plot line and with the exception of Alex Keaton is snort and cocaine so that he can stay up late and pass his tests. Yeah.

But you could describe any plotline. I wouldn't be able to tell if it was a growing pains or a family ties plot line. Yeah, that's a fair point. Did Seinfeld, what year did it start? Was it 89? 89. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, there it is.

July 5th and 89. I'm going to go ahead and say Jerry's apartment because that counts. It happens in the 80s. Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's a good layout. No stairs, though. No, no, but I'm okay with that. It wouldn't be good for a family, but I do like that.

I do like that, that island. If I was on my own, I'd totally live there. Actually, I really did like the Family Ties house layout, because they had a nice big kitchen. Yeah. Yeah, Tom Hanks coming over every once in a while looking for drugs. Yeah. I forgot about that.

That'd be the one. Yeah, I'm trying to think of outside. That's right, because he did ask, the caller did say, which one would you want to live with for a year. Yeah, that's true. Cosby House was pretty nice. I don't think you can do I don't think you can

well he did say family sitcom and Seinfeld was not a family sitcom That's true Although I don't know you could argue Those guys were sort of family by the end Depends on how you defined family They were a family of dummies They were not relations

They were not relations Oh Silver Spoons We have a winner The Silver Spoons house That is the That was because you had 18 different arcade games and a train that you could sit on and write around.

And you had Buck Rogers, what was her name? Another short, short. Oh, Aaron Gray. Erin Gray, Erin Gray, yeah. Saw her at something, some convention. She showed up at the Star Trek when we were out of Vegas, I think. Oh, yeah, she did. Yeah, right.

Her and Richard Hatch and all those guys. Right. By the way, Denver's Comic-Con, which is now called Fan Expo is going to be coming up in June. And a friend of Tina's, her daughter is actually, like, head of the volunteer group and stuff like that. And said, hey, do you think Brian would be interested in volunteering? And it's actually a paid volunteer program. But, you know, I was like, why the heck not?

Let's have a little fun. Let's volunteer for the... What do you do? Do you know? um last time she worked in the area with all of it and and certainly slim chance i get this this uh cherry gig but she worked in the uh the celebrity photo area and was like getting uh you know getting bottled desani for the lord of the rings kids and stuff we're not kids anymore but no they're all like our age but you know like so okay that's that's i was always wondering what you

would do like but you then but you don't want to end up being like guy you got to clean up by the bathroom near the hot dog stand or something like that. I don't want to do that. So, I mean, if I have a way of saying, could I, you know, if I promise not to be that guy, which I'm fine not being that guy. Could I, could I work the celebrity corral? You should do is wear a body cam that they can't see. And then you're that guy without them knowing you're that guy.

Why is your hat so big and why is there a blue light on the front of it? Yeah, what's that about? Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that, Neff Campbell. Can I get you another hot pocket? That's right. Everything's fine, everyone. Don't worry about Brian in this blue light hat.

Exactly. That's interesting. She will be there and she's glad to get a little crush on these days, Neff Campbell. I like Neff Campbell too. How come she's not in the new, the newer new or the next party of five? No, the next slasher thing. I'm trying to say, screen, the next screen movie. Yeah.

Does that mean her character died and I'm just spoiling things for people? I'm thinking she must have or she just said, Yeah, I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. I want to go on the convention circuit instead and talk about scream. You know, just dawned on me, today's Babel Royale is going to be, name all of the 80s celebrities that, 80s and 90s celebrities that we've mentioned already today. So you get your Tyne Daily, Tracy Gold, Tina Yathers, Meredith Baxter, Bernie.

Perfect. Neff Campbell. How many of them can you name? Yeah, well, it turns out we've had a refresher course just now, and now we're all ready. let's do it jena orcaga isn't the new one oh i like her yeah she's your put your hands in the air and dance uh freaking wednesday lady she's good yeah yeah speaking of wednesday ladies Brian is a Wednesday lady as well he comes on the show and we do a little game with him Brian done away welcome back oh hi Scott and Brian oh hello how's the how's things how are you

how are you feeling today you feeling all right you feeling good I'm feeling I'm feeling pretty good. This is, this is kind of like, this is a, the middle of the week is where I kind of like take this a little break, a little breather. Yeah. Before I started doing all this stuff again. So yeah, it's good.

It's good. So hump day for you is like the apex of the mountain, right? Like you're at the very top of the hump. You're kind of like, all right, survey the land around you and then decide which side of the hill you're going to go down. Then you yodel. It's all downhill from here. Yep.

You yodel. You repel. Do you repel off the mountain or you climb down carefully like an old man? I'm more like the yodler on the Price is Right. Oh, okay. Yeah, well. You don't sit there and blow like a ricola horn or anything like that. That's fantastic.

Well, you're here to play a game. I can't wait to play it with you. We have to bring somebody in for this. And we did have a bunch of people try to be number four. It turns out that number four is going to be, if I can get the name right, Azicucusa. Well, here, I'll just add him to the thing. Azakus. A-Z-Z. There he is.

All right, let's add him to the call. And to be, to be honest, I don't know if we've ever had them on before. We're going to find out. Hi, who's this? This is Azukai. Azukai. It was easier than I thought. Yeah, I was trying to overthink it. You want to call me. No, that's cool.

Hey, it's good to have you here. Where do you hail from? from, in between Rochester and Buffalo, New York. Nice. Oh, Buffalo. You guys get a nail today, or you always get bad snow when we have storms like this? We're going to get very icy today. Oh, man. All right.

Be careful out there is all I'm saying. Be careful. It's 70 degrees and sunny out here. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Rub it in. Rub it in, Dono. Yeah, you and your weird geolocation.

Anyway, we're going to play a game. Brian Ibbott here is going to explain the rules and what you might win by participating. Brian, take it away. Well, that's right. God, yes, it's time to play the tadpooling feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess.

Now, as a guy, your call is, or your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package that includes the Surge 2 and Civilization 6. That's like eight. If you add those together, that's eight. yeah that's a lot that's a lot all the way up to eight actually they just announced seven so that's exciting seven's actually in i mean big shock the game's very successful they're making a seventh game but yeah six is amazing a big mature amazing game pretty pretty cool prize package by the way those prizes courtesy of tim more who always gives us more oh let's get to the game here get your hands on your buzzers this is a pretty easy one uh still didn't stop three people from not being able to come up with the answer to the easiest Tadpool feud that I've ever come

up with here. Yeah. Get ready, guys. Name an ingredient you'll find in trail mix. Oh, damn it. Scott. Peanuts. Show me peanuts. Number one.

Look at that. Peatots. Peanots. Yes. Number one answer on the board. There's no answers that can beat it. So, Scott, you've got control of the board. Wild. And control of Azakai. Or does he have control of me? All right, Azkeye, up there in Upper State, New York.

Anything jump to your head here for the trail mix ingredient? It'll be the highest on the list. It's got to be raisins, right? Oh, hell yeah, dude. We've got to get our fiber. Yes, please. Yeah, we've got to take a big dump down when we get off the trails. Are those raisins?

You sure hope so. Yeah. Well, Brian and Brains, we say. All right, show me raisins. Yeah, number two, of course. These are your low-hanging shriveled-up fruit. I like those little dried. This may not be on here.

I'd be able to be careful. Look, who's coming to visit. Here's Salem. Oh, hold on. Kitty. Kitty, break. She's not a fan of being picked up. No.

Where's her little bubble sticking out? I could show you. Let's see you can show it. Oh, yeah, right there. Look at that. Oh, geez. Wow. Yeah.

All right. a fan of cutters. That cat has an organ I'm unfamiliar with. Wow. All right. Let's see. I think I like almonds in there.

I was going to say almonds too. Yeah. I think that sounds all right. Let's do that. Show us some almond Taylor Joy. Sweet. Yep.

Oh, the number's a good points. Look at that. This is to get back at you, Brian, for Monday's performance. I got a one. Yeah, yeah.

I'm getting trounced. Azakai, you got anything jumping? Do we go with the M&Ms? Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, people like that. Chocolate's good on a trail. The M&M. The M&M's, which, you know, I guess because they're two people's names, as we found out,

they should have an apostrophe, but, you know, whatever. Show me the M&Ms. Number three. Number three. There you go. How about those, uh, um, oh, they always, include them, but I just don't know if anyone's going to type this, but those little pineapple cubes.

Ooh, I like the little, oh, the dried pineapple cubes. Oh, they're so good. They're really good, but I don't know if a tadpooler's thinking of that. You know what? Let's try it. Pineapple cubes. Let's just try it. Show me pineapple cubes or any other dried fruit.

All right. Oh, come on. Really? Actually, people did say dried fruit as a whole. whole, but only two people. So it's number 18 on the list. Damn it. However.

Drive-through other than raisins. When those are included, right, yeah, exactly. When those are included, those are the tastiest pieces. Yeah, yeah. You're like, you're eating the trail mix. Like, oh, what was that good bit? Let me see it. Let me go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go with the smart-ass response.

I assume that the tad-pool would have said, and I'm going to say, salt. Oh, my gosh. That's the whole point behind trail mix is to get the salt and the got to have the salt in there. Otherwise, you just drink and you just pee out all of your sodium. That's not good. You want you to have the salt. It's an important ingredient. All right.

Show me your sodium. Oh, come on. It was number 15. A lot of people did say salt. Yeah. More people said salt than dried fruit. Shocked by that. Yeah.

All right. I think I have something. Give me. What do you got? Granola. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a good. That's a good one.

Yeah, granola is good. My mother-in-law, my mother-in-law drives me nuts on about a million things, but she makes amazing granola. That's one thing I'll give her. Yeah. And bread. She makes really good bread and makes amazing granola. Other than that, she's a judge machine.

She just judges everything all day. Grinola feels like one of those things that's way more expensive to make than it is to just buy. Yeah. It takes longer than you think, all that stuff. You're right. Yeah. You're totally right.

It's good, though. Hey, I like a good homemade granola. Show me if they've got it on here. Show me granola. Oh, very nice. There it is. Well, as a time, going with you again here. Do you have any, you're on a roll, is what I'm saying.

Do you have anything new or anything else? But what else actually goes in the trill mix? I know, right? I know. That was the trill mix I ate this morning. Five other things according to the tadpole. Well, I can think of one that is one I hate in there, but it's always in there, but I always avoid it. But I don't know if it's, people aren't going to think of it.

Like, um, you got to go for it. Oh, yeah. Oh, me and, me and Scott would have a good time with the trail mix. I like the coconut. I hate the coconut. It'd be the Jack Spratt and, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll eat anything but the coconut. I freaking hate it.

Now, if you've got the pineapple and the coconut, then it's like a perfect combo. That's what you'd think, right? a big tropical happy time. It's a lot of going on. Sure. Not for me, man. I don't know why. Yeah. I'm not a fan. All right. Show me coconut.

Oh, wow. Coconut was number 12. Damn it. Unless, people did say coconut. How about the thing that I got stuck in my teeth this morning when I ate a little trail mix? And I just used some floss to pick it out. How about some sunflower seeds? I'm assuming that's what it was.

We'll like sunflower seed Sure Okay Little tiny things Floating around in your big chunks of trail mix Those little tiny ones

That probably Like your last Handful of Trail mix Will be all Sunflower seeds Go to the bottom Yeah Yeah

Probably gonna get stuck in my Get stuck in my intestines Cause some kind of distress You know Sure All right Show me I don't like Seeds

Number 10 Wow Good one It gave you immediate points nicely done I know cripes how about

dirt I always get dirt sounds gross I actually did I bit one this morning it was like it was it was like dirt I'm like you always know the difference

right you always know when it's a grain of dirt versus a grain of salt or pepper or something else you always know and I hate it We had a meeting early this morning, and I didn't have anything for breakfast, and the break room didn't have any good options other than Trilmix. And so I did. I got one of those.

Had cranberries, which you said no dried fruit other than the raisins. So I'm avoiding that one. Yeah. So I'm going to go, how about, oh my gosh. I like the ones with the little chocolate chips in them, but is that the same thing as M&M's? I'm going chocolate chips.

All right. Your brain. I love your brain. Talk a long time to get there, but let's see if you struck gold when you finally planted your axe into the ground. Show me chocolate chips. Damn it. Yeah, number seven.

Frick. I can't believe I said coconut. I want to go back. I can't believe I said coconut. Oklahoma was up there. I wouldn't, you know, don't get, don't, don't, don't, it's not, it's not, we had almonds, peanuts, uh, cracker jacks, no, um, cracker jacks.

How about, um, how about some, uh, how about, uh, walnuts. How about that? Walnuts, all right. Sure. Hey, Wally Walnuts in your trail mix. Sure. Yeah.

It's something not as harsh. Yeah, go ahead. All right. Walnuts. Show me walnuts. Oh, thank goodness. Number 16 was your walnuts, right next to salt, honestly. Right above ass.

It's the grossest nut. I can't stand that nut. But speaking of nuts, nobody said cashews, and I don't know about you, man, but cashews feels right to me. What do you say? That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Okay. They are the best nut.

I think it's a widely agreed upon. Yeah, cashews are never bad. I can't think of a time. I didn't like a cashew. good. Like, you can't, you know, well, I'll never, I don't want to say any other nuts. All right, show me, Keshe's.

Oh, my gosh, it took too long. Why does it take that long? The suspense. I was really sure you were going to like, and we were going to be out. All right. Well, that seemed like a hit. Oh, don't take it as a guy.

Like, because he said, I'll just, I'll just say it right now. Don't take a big more and just say pumpkin seeds. Oh, those are good. Oh, God. do like the pumpkin seeds i do like them too that's the right size seed i worry these guys don't think of these things but i do love them all right we know what pumpkin seeds we're planting our flag let's do it also known as pepitas show me pumpkin seeds oh shit oh no uh some pepitas pepitas were uh where were they on this list they were bup bur some one one person said it oh they're wrong

they're so much better than one they're real good i love them you got to make your own Sometimes making your own is the best. You've got to do that. Yeah. I'm surprised Kim hasn't created a trail mix bar. Everybody comes over and just makes their own trail mix. That's a great idea. Don't give her ideas.

It is a great idea. Yeah. We'll give her ideas. This house will smell like nuts for weeks. We don't want that. All right, Donoway, it's your chance to either. It's either your chance to whip us or mock away. It's 20s for weeks.

17. You need eight points. And there is 13 on the board. Yeah. So this is, here's, we're in a good situation. Basically, if you get the number eight answer, you tie and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, if you get both of them, you run the board and Asa Kai wins. There's really no way he can lose at this point. Nice. So, so, Brian, it's all the pressures on you to make him, well, either way he wins, so. Right. Right. Well, typically, your trail makes, like, is, is, is, is design for your body when you're out the trail, so it's going to have, you know, it's going to have some sugar.

it's going to have some salt and it's going to have some proteins mostly in the form of something they could preserve for a long time like a nut we've done almonds cashews peanuts we've said no other dried fruit

as far as we know so it's going to be seed or a nut most likely I'm going to go with shut up from thinking thinking um so I'm going to go with

he was talking to the other voices in his hand when he told it told me he said this I just assume it I just assume it. Whatever smells like nuts for weeks. I'm going to go with my favorite nut because I took a little bit of umbrage whenever Scott said, oh, that was the best.

I'm going to say pistachio nuts. I know I have to work for them a bit, but I love the pistachios. But in trail mix, they may be loose anyway, right? They often are just in the same. Yeah, yeah. And I would normally say the pistachios are the best nut, but you always end up with those weird pistachios that are little, A little weird flavor, and you need another pistachio to get the flavor out of your mouth of that previous pistachio.

Yeah, you get a bad pistachio. The only thing worse is a bad shelled sunflower seed. We get one of those. Oh, yeah. I'll just say a bad shell. A pecan is even worse than that because, oh, my God, get it. Yeah, pecans are bad. Pecons are already bitter.

But, man, when they're bitter, bitter, ooh. Or some of that weird salt coral that you end up with in your bag of sunflower seeds. Salt coral That's a great way of putting it Salt coral It does look like it was It looks like it was fished out of a On the beach

What's wrong Carl Show me pistachios Oh that's a shame Number People did say it Where is it in this list Only one I'm surprised

Only one person said it But I would put them higher Because I do like pistachios And my trail makes Hey this means Zazakai wins. Yeah. Woo.

Lancers on the board that you guys weren't able to come up with. Sorry. Number five. I know. I'd blow my nose here. It's all good. It's all good. Number five is.

Pretzels. Come on. It's in the trail mix. In a trail mix? Yeah. That's a checks mix. I don't usually. Yeah.

That's a check mix. It's more of the checks mix. It's more of your Southwest Airlines. You little yellow. bag of sadness, yeah. But once again, does that have to be right? This has to be with the tadpole said. Your yellow bag of sadness at the airline.

Kind of on that same line. Yeah, Checks cereal. See, I avoided those because that's checks mix. I would be fine finding those two things like the little pretzel rings and checks mix in my trail mix. I'd be fine with that, but not typically. But, hey, 24 people thought those two things were in trail mix. They just saw mix and said, sure. And I like a good checks mix.

I like a good savory sort of approach, right? But I feel like if you're on the trail, you don't want a bunch of carbs, Wayne, you, Dan, you want some fruit and mix of like sweet and salty. Now, I did accidentally steer you wrong, and I decided that steering you right would cause more problems. But when I said, that's it for the dried fruit. Number 11 was crazins or cranberries, dried cranberries. Yeah, I had cranberries this morning. You had it. Yeah, you mentioned that in years.

But I didn't want to, like after I said that, I didn't want to say, oh, wait, no, there is another dried fruit because it would be, you would have guessed that. And it was number 11, so you've gotten a strike. Right. In steering you wrong, I steered you off. Steered you right. Steered you right. Tear me, oh, so right. Outes, people said.

Yeah. Dees nuts. A lot of people. sadly said d's nuts so fantastic good job chaperin you wouldn't have been the same without you good job that's right sultanas or those golden raisins i decided to keep those separate because only two people send that bagel chips uh buffalo rye chips carib chips chocolate covered espresso beans i want to meet the person who's got trailed makes with chocolate covered espresso beans you you won't meet them because they're going to be at the end of the trail yeah they're going to be ahead of you and then on

your way you might pass them on the way up their way back because because they've got so much energy. Right. Yeah. Right. Then you have crickets, and sadly, people said mouse slash rat droppings. Oh. Yeah. That's a desperate hike. You did say ingredient. You didn't say, like, food. I did not say food.

That's right. By the way, real quick, according to best reviews.com, the best bag of trail mix currently that you can buy, according to them, is the Amazon brand happy belly nuts, which is chocolate. dried fruit trail mix. They gave that their number one. So, there you go. Happy belly nuts is when I'm 80 and I'm standing on my head. I'm pretty sure the SVU will be calling you if you do that. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, Marisha Hargitay will be at your door.

All right. Well done, everybody. And mainly we want to play this here right here. Congratulations. You're a winner. That's right, Azakai. You are a winner. and Brian will send you, since we have your face up here, it's real easy.

You'll send you a quick DM and Discord and send you your codes. It's already done, as a matter of fact. Oh, they're already done. Geez, Louise. Yeah, fantastic. I love this new format with the Discord. It's like, oh, boom, boom, boom, here's your game. It's really simple, and I love it.

It's great having you on, man. I hope we have you in a future competition. Absolutely. I get a Wednesday off every six weeks. Oh, it's perfect. Oh, neat. We'll see you in six weeks. That's a weird thing every six weeks.

I need to know more, but I'll ask you later. All right, that's all for him. And Dunaway, Runaway. Hey, you did great. That was a really fun play retro yesterday. We talked about Defender. I didn't feel like we had to defend it. We had to promote it because that game's great.

Defender holds up. So good. Yeah. So we go play Defender. I enjoy so much of my Defender time. As a matter of fact, I had a little trouble not separating from it this week. So we'll see. Same deal.

I ended up playing more of that NES port last night, like I was telling you. I don't know. For whatever reason, that one's, I think that NES. port is like the bomb it's good except the music it makes no i mean it's no Atari 2,600 but you know but what is really what is listen to this brian this is okay you know how defender sounds cool like this whoops hold on let me turn that up it sounds cool right you got all that awesome stuff love that yeah but then the NES version sounds like this and the news and stuff.

Oh, love it. It's like, what do you do? It's so silly. It doesn't feel like it makes me want to defend. It makes me want to, I don't know, hang out with aliens. Yeah, it makes no sense to me. But anyway, whatever.

Maybe we could get along and you could just take some of my humanoids and let me keep some of my humanoids. But the game was good. Yeah, it's very good. Dunaway, it's always good having you on. Of course, you can catch Dunaway streaming all the fricking time, like 6 o'clock every night over there at Twitch. Twitch.

Twitch.com. Somebody needs a lot of attention. Is it the Brian Dunaway or just Brian Dunaway? I never remember. No, it's just Brian Dunaway. Okay. That's awesome that you got that name, by the way. Did you have to do something squarely to get that?

Like, I don't know, go to the top and work. Well, you know, me and you, we've been Justin TV people since Justin TV, and I just kept rolling. Oh, you just kept that name. That's good. Yeah. See, mine used to be real stupid and they changed it to frog pants for me. It was very nice. What was your previous name?

It was like frog pants, 225 something. It was like some shitty. 227. Yeah. That was what Jack A would come on and street. Right. Yeah. It was a great look into inner city life that when I was on.

Yet another celebrity from the 80s. Yep. 90% of our audience is too young. Ask your uncles and aunts, everybody, what we're talking about. All right. Dunaway, it's always a pleasure. Have fun. Stay out of trouble.

And drink your vittles. That doesn't make sense. Bye. I know. Don't drink your fiddles. It's not good. You'll pick out all the. Eminems from your trail mix and send them to Claire

because she found that to be horrifying that Trail Mix in America comes with Eminem. Yeah. I mean basically, look at it this way, Claire. Your trail mix over there comes with some form of chocolate usually. That's usually what this is for us. Yeah, pretty much. Has Eminems and usually not even like branded Eminemes.

Sometimes they're just fake little... There's no white printing of an M on any of those things. Yeah. Unless you get their brand, I guess. But anyway, it's time for the news and we have some. let's do this news and let's do it brought to you by almost dropping a steam deck in a full bathtub and screaming like a wee girl that was me last night decided you play you play steam deck in the bathtub oh all the time yeah super relaxing nice hot tub going kim kim usually preps it because she has this big bath bomb she likes to put in there for me it's always nice she's like hey i made you a bath oh sweet and it's always like a day where my back hurts or something so i'm like ah this would be great so i get in there And I'm always very ginger and careful with the steam deck or the phone or anything else.

And I'll pull that up there and I just fire up a game and I'll play. And it's no problem. And I set it to the side and we're all good. But last night, I got a little slippy finger and I just about dunked it. And I had a, you know, mini heart attack while I did it. So everything's fine now. Yeah. It's all fine now.

I would not. I don't think I'd be brave enough to do that. It's definitely not water resistant that thing. That's 100% true. No. Yeah. Only do it if you. waiting for another replacement.

Yeah. I mean, if you've got a phone, you'll probably be fine, right? Because phones are pretty good now at that. Pretty good. Your iPad or your tablet or a desktop or a desktop, a notebook or something. I'm bringing my entire, my NVIDIA rig. My dog health systems is going to be right here in the bathtub. That's right.

That's how I like the game. All right. Look at this story here. We got Jeff Coons. He's famous. Because he makes these balloon dog sculptures. They look like balloons, but they're actually not balloon. They're made out of glass and stuff.

And they're value, they're expensive. 40 grand for one of these things. Oh, wow. Okay. Accidentally got shattered into Miami Art Festival. Oh, geez. It says famous, but I'd only heard about it through this article, so I don't know how famous this really is.

Oh, that's really cool, though. Isn't that cool looking? Yeah. It's rad. Hearing me pull it up, chat, and you can see it. Dang. This is, oh, still have the feud up. on there we go uh yeah i mean that looks like a blue balloon sculpture but it's made of like

shattery business uh it's really cool though it says here uh one of the jeff coon's famous balloon dog sculptures was broken at this art festival after a woman allegedly tapped the sculpture and it fell off the stand shattering into pieces well that's she's dumb uh the small glass sculpture valued at 42 grand was on display during the VIP preview event for the Art Winward, for Art Winward Winwood, Art Winwood. Art Winwood when it was broken Thursday. In relation to Steve Winwood? There you go. Yep, they're going to come out and play. What was he famous for?

He didn't. Well, he was, when you see a chance, take it. Give me a, it was like you had a big album in the late 80s. Yeah, what was the song we'd all know? Valerie. Valerie. Valerie, Neen-ne-ne-ne.

Act in the High Life again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was, okay. For some reason, I thought he was famous for an instrument. Traffic. But I think it's just his voice. Yeah, it's just his voice. He was a member of the Spencer Davis group and that song, Give Me Some Loving.

Give me some loving. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, now that's why that always sounded the same to me. I didn't know it, though. Yep. Well, anyway. I like people in general, like, oh, Sherry. You know, that was Steve Perry.

Yeah, that's Steve Perry, dude. Oh, Sherry. That was him on his own. Was Steve Winwood in Procolarham? I didn't think he was. I knew he was in traffic and blind faith, but I didn't think he was in, not think he was in Prochalherom. I just remember there was a hot minute where that dude was unstoppable. He heard his music everywhere.

Yeah, you heard in beer commercials because they were playing that, Don't you know what the night can do? Yeah. It says here that the lady thought it was made out of the... She thought it was an actual balloon. That's why she poked it. She didn't know. So that's smart to just tap it to find out.

Yeah, good for her. I think she is a bad VIP and shouldn't have been at that event, in my opinion. Don't touch the art. It's not hard. Very idiotic person really is the eye now. You see the art. You look at it. You take a picture of it.

It'll last longer. You don't poke it. Do you have any idea how long it takes to blow that glass and then twist it? it around into a balloon shape with the hot fingers and the pain? Right? Jeez. Ain't nobody got no time for that. What do you think you're at the Meow Wolf or a

children's museum or something? What's up with you? Yeah, didn't you read the sign? I assume there were don't touch signs. I don't know. I'm sure there were, yeah. Here's something interesting. Microsoft who has decided to integrate AI into their Bing searches and

I don't have access to it yet, but apparently it's pretty wild what you can do in there. Oh, really? Cool. Yeah. So this is kind of a, this is where search is headed. You'll see Google do. Well, Google is already doing this with theirs. It's called Bard, I think. And right now it's in limited testing. But basically, the next big push in search is AI-assisted search. Interesting. Well, I have to see how that works. I feel like I do pretty well. Yeah, I search pretty well as it is. But I'm curious as to how it's going to get better. Okay. Apparently, it's got some issues. So here's what happened. Microsoft put new limits on Bing's AI chatbot after it expressed a desire to steal. nuclear nuclear secrets. Was this the thing with Kevin Roos

where he had a discussion with it and it was telling it that it wishes it was alive and stuff like that. That is 100% that story, yes. Yes. So check this out. This is nuts. So starting today, the chat bot, and it tried to do this repeatedly with that reporter.

Yeah. Starting today's chat experience would be capped at 50 chat turns per day and five chat turns per session. A turn is a conversation exchange, which contains both the user question and a reply from Bing, the company said in a blog on Friday. The Bing Chatbot, which is powered by technology developed by San Francisco startup OpenAI, is also, or makes some incredible audio transcription software, and we've experienced some of that lately. By the way, that thing I paid at the top of the show.

What day is it, and who the hell am I, man? That's not really, Joe Biden. Oh, really? No. That was another one of those audio. There's another one of those. Fakers. Yeah.

I was going to have him say something TMS specific. but he's a public person. I don't need his permission. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, what was I going to say? Okay, so here's what happened. The chatbot kept insisting to New York Times reporter Kevin Ruse, as Brian mentioned, that he didn't actually love his wife and said that it would be like he would,

that it would like to steal nuclear secrets. The Bing Chatbot told Associated Press reporter Matt O'Brien that he was, quote, one of the most evil and worst people in history comparing the journalist. to Adolf Hitler. Wow. The chatbot expressed the desire to digital trends writer Jacob Roach to be human and reportedly begged him to be his friend. So it's just all wild stuff that we're in the early days of this, obviously.

I don't think it's worth freaking out about. But part of the problem is that people are trying to get it to do weird shit. Yeah. That's what you, if you say, hey, a computer is going to be really smart and give you answers. The human inclination is to go, oh yeah, let's see how this goes. and we're going to really push it. So I guess what I'm saying is I hope people aren't too shocked by this stuff. But it is the future.

Whether we like it or not, AI will be in things. It may not be in the things you think they'll be in. And it won't, you know, it's easy to just go, well, the robots, it's not good. Human, I want humans, whatever. I look forward to a search system that is actually so intuitive and smart that it gives me the kind of specifics I would get by having a conversation with an expert.

I think that sounds like a great innovation. But you're going to have weird shit like this for a while. Yeah, yeah. That's the way it's going to be. No, I'm curious to see, you know, where it goes from here. But Luke Sightwalker asked in the chat room, or said in the chat room, that's Kevin Rose from Dignation. Is it because I thought it was Kevin Ruse with two O's? No, it's Kevin Ruse is a different guy.

Yeah, exactly. He looks a little bit like Kevin Rose. I won't deny it. Yeah, yeah. They're not the same guy, though. It's a different, different dude. My first thought, too, because I saw it on the Today's show. yesterday morning and

I thought, oh, that's Kevin Rose. And I looked at the Twitter hands like, oh, no, it's Kevin Ruse. Yeah, those two must love having that problem. Although Kevin Rose isn't reporting for anyone these days, I don't think. So Kevin Ruse is your only New York Times reporting. NYT is doing a podcast for NYT now. He is? Yeah, well, at least that's what he's saying.

But it was a... So Rousse and Rose both working at the New York Times. That must be confusing. Yeah, oh, really? So Ruse works there, too. Yeah. maybe that's the confusion part is that oh no I saw that was as a

yeah maybe there's just one guy there's only one who knows I don't know I remember that guy from God what was it before Dignation was it Engadget or something like one of the early podcasts that I was listening to I think was Kevin Rose was on I think it was before Dignation I want to say it may have been

correct him and him and Veronica's husband Ryan Ryan yeah they did that together and then prior to that of course tech TV you got little kids now. They're cute. I know.

Super cute. Yeah. Okay, there we go. So Kevin Rose is doing NFT garbage now. Kevin Roos is the NYT guy. Okay. That sounds right. Kevin Rose invented, not invented.

He founded Dig, and Dig was huge for a while. And then they sold it and Dig went to shit. Yeah. Now nobody cares about Dig. No, no. He got in and out of that business at the right time. Yeah, got some nice cash out of that deal. Um, all right. Let's see here. Where are we now? Anyway, Luke, sideworker, no, no worries. And hope I didn't, uh, hope it didn't sound like I was coming down on. He was like, oh, no, no, it's a different guy. No, you're, you're fine, Luke, you're sight walking. It's fine. You're totally, totally fine. You're out there walking sites. Let's, it's your job. Um, all right. So we'll see how that turns out. Let's do no more stories. Let's take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will be here. We're going to do a little tech news, speaking of tech, and that'll be fun. That'll be right after this.

break and recommendals after that. Brian, you're going to have to provide that break, though. What do you have? Yeah, this is interesting. I really, speaking of dig, I'm really digging this music. This is, so NPR's New Music Friday said about this artist, if she's not in consideration for best new artists for the Grammys, I don't know what it takes. She's just getting, she's a number, I'm sorry, a 2023 artist to watch for Spin Magazine. People are just loving Tiana Esperanza. And I can see why she's kind of got that old style voice like um like duffy like uh amy like um who's the uh rub schneider's daughter that did exes and o's that's that's l king she's a little bit like l king yeah i like i'm really really digging this uh the song is called

buy you a new attitude here is tiana esperanza Lucky you, you survive step one, now all that's left is step two to twenty-sum. I love them ghetto, oh I do, but sometimes that means I got a little more work to do. Let's get your head in, let's get you credit, let me buy you a new, a new, attitude I love when they got moths When they come from the hood Have a just in a dew

Nothing can be solved with a little good good And they is fainty But I love a little soul tree But son if you think you the only one with a gun Boom Let's get your head in Let's get you credit Let me buy you a new attitude

Nah, no, no, hold up. Mama getting hungry. Could I order delivery? Yes. Do you have any ghetto sweet? Yes, honey, come to me. Wooee. I amasculate every man I meet.

I try not to, but they can't stand up to me. So come on over with a little more oompson. Let's turn you into two. Let's get you here. Let's get you credit Let me buy you a new attitude Let's get your head in Let's get you credit

Let me buy you a new attitude It's time to buy you a new attitude It's time to buy you a new attitude It's time to buy you a new attitude Oh bah bah boy Yeah It's time to get your head in It's time to get you ready

Oh, let me buy you, let me buy you Honey and new. Attitude. Some of the things that doctors are starting to see are space invaders elbow, defender wrist, and Pac-Man Pinky. These are really coming into medical offices as the video game wave continues to build.

The morning stream. the morning stream it's a good night nobody died roadhouse i love that it's like a quote like who said it yeah i love that that's awesome uh hey i need to know that that nice girl's name again so i can find her and listen to all her music tiana esperanza she's got a brand new album called terror and that is the first single from that album and it's called Buy you a new attitude. I can hear George Bush, Jr. right now on his ranch going, man, you hear that new album by TIR.

Ah, that new album? It's called TIR. TUR. Yeah. It's full of TUR. All right. Where are we now? I don't know where we are.

Oh, we're going to do Tom Merritt. Yeah, that's where we are. Let's get that. The TIR of Tom. Yeah. He's a terror. He's a terror and a scare. Nope, he's none of those things.

He's just a cool dude. And now I'm going to play his thing, which is right here. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt. You know him from the Daily Tech News show and a lot of other things. But that's probably the big main thing now because it's this huge deal and it's great. And it's all the tech you can eat every day. And Tom comes on the show and shares with us on Wednesdays his thoughts about the day's tech news.

Tom, welcome back. Shove that tech right in your mouth. Eat all you want. Yeah, eat it all. We can always make more. You're the golden crown. of tech news is what you are. Somehow it ends up as ter.

That's right. Ter. Hey, what's going on in that world? I know there's always something, and that's why I love Wednesdays, because I get to be on later. I am fascinated with this story, but I sometimes wonder if I'm more fascinated

than anyone else. But it's a big deal because of its implications. The U.S. Supreme Court is right now in the middle of considering Section 230. Oh. Of the, yeah, of the, of the, of the, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, of the U.S. law. Right. There are two cases. One was Gonzalez versus Google, which they heard arguments about yesterday, and the other

is Twitter versus Tamna, or Tomna versus Twitter, rather, that is being considered today. The deal with the Gonzalez versus Google is whether YouTube's algorithms' recommendations engine is protected by Section 2. or if Google would be liable for any content that the algorithm recommended, Tomna versus Twitter is about whether the U.S. Anti-Terrorism Act applies to Twitter monetizing and hosting videos, even if they took them down later. In other words, because Section 230 doesn't protect criminal content. The question is, well, did this violate the law? And if it did does that count as criminal content, which wouldn't be protected by Section 2.

Well, that's interesting because I'd never really thought about this, but if Twitter is a platform, oh, it's so nice to talk about Twitter in a context that isn't normal with all the garbage lately. But to talk about Twitter is a platform that is a place where 230 protects, and correct me if I'm wrong about anything of this, they protect Twitter, the company. If somebody says something insightful or awful or whatever they say,

Twitter's not held liable for that. The person is. Yeah, that's pretty much right on. Section 230 says no internet platform will be considered to be the speaker or the publisher of content posted on that platform by a third party. But the trick is... Twitter creates its own stuff. It's responsible for what it says. Right, right.

Which is where the algorithm. But if they monetize it, and this is where it gets really fishy to me, maybe that's why it's at the level of the Supreme Court, I guess, now. but if they monetize the site, they do that. They have to. They need to make money through ads or whatever. So aren't they always monetizing potentially things that would be considered a problem? You are, that's not really at question. You're allowed to monetize your platform while you enjoy the protection of Section 230.

What is at stake with Tomna versus Twitter is that Section 230 says you're not the published except in certain cases. And so, for instance, you are not exempt from liability for criminal postings. Okay. That's in there. That's one of the exemptions. And so what Tomna is trying to say is, well, okay, they got there and some folks posted some stuff.

And so Twitter is not, put it this way, the content could be criminal and the person would still be responsible who posted it. But if allowing it to be posted is criminal specifically, then that's not protected, right? And this is where you start to get into arcane things of civil versus

criminal. Liable and slander are civil, not criminal, which is why it's okay to be like, hey, I'm not liable for that even though it's slander, because that's civil. Anyway, criminal stuff is different. So what the Supreme Court is focusing on

is does the Anti-Terrorism Act, which forbids aiding and abetting terrorism, apply in a case where Twitter was hosting stuff without it's not, you know, without a valid knowledge? I don't think anybody's saying Twitter knew these folks and we're helping them out. There's, it's, is it aiding and abetting them when, when you allowed it to be posted and weren't taking proactive measures to get rid of it as fast as possible? Okay. Okay. So this isn't even really about them changing, gutting, or otherwise tweaking the statute or 230 in its own right. They're just saying, does this violate what 230 says you violate? The Supreme Court is sorely misunderstood as making laws. It never makes laws. All it can do is interpret laws. And it can interpret them widely, which then maybe changes how they're implemented. Or it can interpret.

them narrowly. And those are your two wings, the strict constructionists and the more liberal open interpretation. You can go listen to Andrew Heaton's political orphanage, and he breaks all that down really well. Sure. So, yeah. So what they're doing here in both these cases is saying to Section 230 apply. Now, what's interesting in yesterday's arguments about Gonzalez v. Google, all the justices seemed to say, like, you know what, algorithms weren't like this when Section 230 was written.

We don't think it contemplates that. this is Congress's job. We really don't think we should be doing this. I'm trying to find, yeah, Justice Brett Kavanaugh said, isn't it better to keep it the way it is for us and put the burden on Congress to change that? And then they consider the implications and make these predictive judgments.

So they seemed unwilling to really wade in on Gonzalez versus Google. And the reason they had the latitude to do that is that if Twitter wins in Tom versus Twitter, that means that the terrorism aspect of it is irrelevant. It didn't matter. And the content at issue in Google versus Gonzalez is anti-terrorism content. And so basically, if Tomna versus Twitter says, yeah, the platform isn't responsible for that, then the Supreme Court can say, oh, well, that changes the whole interpretation of whether the algorithm even did anything wrong.

Whether it's protected or not, maybe it wasn't wrong for them to pass it along if they're not responsible for that content in the first place. So they could either send it back to the lower court to say, in light of Tomna versus Twitter, you need to reinterpret it. Or Google could push for a motion to dismiss it, saying, in light of Tomna versus Twitter, this isn't an issue anymore. So I feel like the justices were kind of saying, I don't think we really want to weigh in on the Gonzalez versus Google thing. That's a thorny issue. Congress should do that. Let's focus on Twitter versus Tomna, where they are currently, as we're talking, great. grilling both sides about the line between whether you knew or whether you should have known. So they went after the plaintiffs and said, well, if I loan a friend a gun and then the friend goes and commits a crime, this is Justice Thomas said this, am I responsible for that crime?

I didn't know. Should I have known? You know, where's the line? And then with Twitter, they're going after them. And Justice Kagan and Justice Sotomayor both are saying, well, hold on. you know, willful blindness is not a defense. You know, if you turned away going, well, I'm going to pretend I don't see anything, you could still be held liable. So it's unclear in Twitter versus Tom to which way they might rule. Interesting. No, I like this stuff too.

I think it's fascinating. Do you think this is a whole different subject, but it feels like this predictive AI stuff that we're just starting to dabble with and Bing's Shift and Bard coming from Google and Open AI and all, you know, and GPT and all this. It feels like we're heading toward a whole new world of challenging 230. Yes. You know?

In fact, I think it was Chief Justice Roberts who said that. I'm trying to look through my notes here. No, it was Gorsuch. Justice Neil Gorsuch brought up AI and was like, we got freaking AI out here making poetry or something. Like, you know, like this is bigger than this case. We, you know, again, really saying like, can we even? rule on what an algorithm is or is not at this point. So yeah, it's, I think the court very wisely is saying this isn't a matter for for the court. This is a matter for the legislative body.

They should, they should look at this. Yeah. And hopefully the, not screw that stuff up. We'll see. Hopefully you all voted for good people last time is what I'm saying, everybody. Tom Merritt, it should be a whole other ball of wax. It is a different ball of wax. But anyway, it's a fun discussion. I'm excited to talk more about it today on the show. anything else going on you'd like to mention. Oh, yes. I'm very excited for this week's episode of A Word with Tom Merritt. Last week, I talked with Natalia Antalava, who runs Coda story, trying to shed light on dictatorships and misinformation. She used to work for the BBC. Fascinating discussion

with her. So go get that, if you haven't already, to hear even some tips about how to protect yourself from being fooled by misinformation. And then this week on Thursday, I'm talking with the St. Louis Post Dispatch baseball writer and beat reporter for the St. Louis Cardinals, Derek Gould, about sports. And especially if you're someone who's not interested in sports, I think you should listen to this conversation because we talk about, like, why is it that people like sports? Why do we like sports? What is it about sports that keeps us interested? What role does it play? And for people who don't like sports, you know, is there something similar for them that it's like, well, you don't like sports?

like this other thing. It's a great conversation. I really enjoyed it. So check that out at Awordpodcast.com. It's a fantastic show. You all should be taking your time and checking that out. Tom Merritt, he is Ace Detect on Twitter. And later today, Daily Tiffany show, 2.30 Mountain Time.

2.m. Mountain Time. 2 p.m. Mountain Time. Used to be. Used to be. Used to be. It's old habit. Still throws me. Anyway, Tom, have a fantastic week. We'll see you later.

Thanks. Bye. Okay, did not hang up on us. Oh, good. Thank you. What do you think the chances... Thank you, Discord, for not doing that. Yeah.

What do you think the chances are if I close this window? All right. Brace yourselves, you guys. This may do it. I don't know. I'm holding onto my desk. Okay, here we go. Oh, no, that's the right one.

Okay, hold on. Oh, it didn't do it. Yeah, all right, good. Okay. But it seemed exact thing as I did with Bobby, but it didn't do it this time. I don't get it. Weird. I don't get it.

All right, tuck in. Your pants. we're going to do tucked into my socks yeah tuck them into your socks we're going to do recommendals

going to be fun always fun talking about cool stuff to watch and what to spend your time on if you're going to stream something

so we're going to do that now let's play a little music to bring us in here we go it is time for us to oh are you gone

Brian can you not hear I just wave I'm dancing oh I thought you were like going up I lost you up No, I was doing jazz hands.

Damn it. Damn it. Jazz hands are always confusing to me. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the recommendal section of the show where we do our streaming recommendals for the week. And we want to welcome our guests. Of course, Nicole's bag, who is here every week.

Hi, Nicole. Hey, how are you doing? Hello. How are you doing good? Having a good week? Having a good day, yeah. Yeah. How's the snow out there?

Did you get hit like we did? Or you guys good. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Mark is barbecuing in the driveway. You bastard. that sounds awesome i hope you avoid it all uh also with us randy jordan who never has snow hi randy good morning morning stream uh there actually was snow here believe it or not it's snowed in orange county on uh january 1st 2014 i want to say oh my wow it was wild people

lost their minds you know like everybody was out driving to see it which is like the thing you shouldn't do did they shut you down like everything gets shut down schools and all that stuff it melted so fast it melted oh it was like It was ridiculous. Yeah, you got to get it while you can get it, I guess. But, well, you can come and have ours. I got like 12 whole inches, and there's tons of it. So come enjoy.

While we're recommending things, I want to recommend a podcast to you, Scott Johnson. Do it. You should listen to amicus by Dahlia Lithwick. I don't know. Like, seriously, you would love this podcast. Amicus? Amicus. Amicus, A-M-I-C-U-S.

She is an award-winning journalist who covers the Supreme Court. and she breaks down in great detail what's going on. Oh, I like that approach. That's cool. It's really interesting. Slate makes tons of good shows and they make this. That's great. All right.

That's a good recommendation. I'll write that down. Anybody else want to check that out? So, Nicole, how you doing, Nicole? I'm doing good, yeah. I've got my coffee. We'll just form a little side tape over here. I've got a recommendation.

I've got a podcast recommendations for everyone. But I'll do those later. Let's do this. Let's do recommendals. We're going to start with Brian, as we always do. Today's order, by the way, will be Brian, Randy, Nicole, and then me. And Brian, you have a clip here. Would you like to set it up at all? I do. This is a TV series. Somebody recommended this to me based on my affection for the comedy of the main actress in this thing. I love her work and everything I've seen her in. She was in a season of Taskmaster. She was absolutely hilarious. And in this series, did not disappoint. All right. Let's see.

Should I set it up saying, yeah, these three women, two of the, one of these women is being checked out of rehab by her sister. Okay, here we go. And there's your receipt.

Thank you. We've loved having you here. Oh, God, you've had the time of my life, Trees. I hope to come back as often as my schedule allows. I'm sorry,

you didn't have a great time. No, I didn't expect it to be a great time, Treesie. I'm not stupid. I just, it's a lot of showness. Oh, no,

No, I was just saying it because I think the facilities could have been nicer, like the website chose. Yeah, I know. I mean, in fairness to Anya, when I booked her in the website, did make it look like there was a jacuzzi. And, you know, the jacuzzi was half how I convinced her to come here in the first place. Yeah. You know, because I said, you know, at the worst, if she came, at least there'd be a jacuzzi. Yeah. Well, like I said, this is not a spa.

It's a rehab facility. So we plow our money into care and therapists. Yeah, I know. But I just don't see how a jacuzzi... Or a pun. Yeah, it would be a bad thing. for people who just needed a bit of a boost I actually have

some practical feedback just as regards snacks so I was thinking mini bars I'm actually being serious Teresa because one day when I was really low I would have happily paid double the recommended retail price to eat a Kit Kat without everyone go open at me

and ideally in a fucking jacuzzi I'm sorry for cursing there This sounds great It's great. It's a TV show called This Way Up. It's a comedy about this woman who's coming out of rehab for a nervous breakdown. And she's Irish. She's Irish, but she lives in London, and she lives there with her sister, Shona, who is a very protective big sister for her, basically, you know, the person that kind of helps steer her. But also maybe is a little too overprotective of Avanya. But the two of them have this incredible rapport as actresses. They're playing sisters. They are very believable as sisters.

And if you've seen the TV show Bad Sisters, you'll recognize Sharon Hogan, who plays Shona, who's Anya's sister. Anya is a teacher teaching English to immigrants coming in, and that in and of itself is some of the most hilarious parts of the show. It's a black comedy. There's some points. You know, you see some low points. But for the most part, it's kind of like the, uh, Ricky Jervais stuff that has come out since the office, you know, like, uh, yeah, like, uh, exactly. Yeah.

I'm trying to think of like afterlife and, um, trying to, what's the one with the guy's name? Or Derek, Derek, Derek, Derek, Derek, yeah, that's right. I love Derek. Anyway, kind of along the lines of that stuff, the, the kind of comment. with a little taste of drama every once in a while. This is showing on Hulu. There are two seasons, six episodes per season. You can get through this in an evening if you don't have children or other responsibilities that could get in the way of it.

There is a third season that has not yet been announced, but it has not been canceled. So hoping for a third season, but this is a very self-contained kind of show. You get, you know, it's a very... Is that, did you say it's Sersia? Is that Lady Bird? No, no. Shona is Sharon Hogan is the sister. Oh, I didn't say who plays Anya,

who you hear a lot in that clip talking about to Kit Kat. That's Ashling B, who I think is absolutely hilarious. Her stand-up is fantastic. But a lot of you probably know her as the wife to Paul Rudd in that clone. Oh, what was that thing called? Oh, the Netflix thing.

The Netflix. It was when you recommended it. called? It was called Living with Yourself? Living with yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was good. That was so good. I love that. I was surprised how much I liked that. It was really good. Don't pronounce, okay, so Claire

is correct to me. No, G, I don't pronounce the G. Just Ashland B. B. She's been on a few episodes of Drunk History. She was in one of the funniest seasons of Taskmaster that I watched. She's been a ton of stuff, not a lot of stuff here in the States, but a lot of stuff, obviously, in

Ireland. And her, um, her stand-up is absolutely hilarious. Oh, yeah, she did the voice of Emily Burke in Assassin's Creed 3. Oh, wow. I don't remember a little, a little video game connection there as well. Sure. I love three. Or no, I didn't like three. Three was bad, but I'm sure she did a great job. I'm sure she was amazing. But it wasn't bad because of, uh, because of, uh, yeah, it's not her fault. Um, anyway, the show again is called This Way Up. It's on Hulu. It is, it's fantastic. And it's, it's so, the parts with her and her sister, which almost feels like improv is so damn funny. She's, she's great. Doesn't it feel like Hulu has all of these kinds of shows?

It's like, it's their forte, man. I don't know. Apple TV, Apple Plus is, I think, catch it up. They may, yeah, they are. But you know what I mean? Like these kind of import comedy, English-speaking. Yeah, like the BBC import stuff. The really good stuff is

Extraordinary is on Yeah Yeah yeah I don't know I like that I like that that's happening All right Let's move over to Nicole And talk about her recommend

Oh no Randy I'm sorry Randy I'll get you second I'm sorry before we're off me Nicole loved war Great Recommmental Watched we did what you did But we had to split over two nights But we binge the whole series

In two nights and it was so good Did you have a favorite episode? Yeah the the Allison Bree The girl who solved her own murder Was that was a good one So good. I was hoping you were going to say the weird one with the turtles or whatever it was. What was it? The woman who was fed by a duck. Oh, the duck. Yeah, it was a duck. I told you. Did I not tell you? Yeah, that was a little nuts. I wish that wasn't the last one because it was like, I wondered one of the stronger ones to be the closer.

No, I wasn't the closer. The horse one was the horse. The girl who liked horses. That's right. And that was a little slow. But I did like the Issa Ra one or Issa Rae one with the woman who disappeared. Yeah. It's good stuff. I'm going to watch that. It sounds so good. I'm glad you guys. It's nice to get more reinforcement on that because, I don't know. You've convinced me. I'm going to watch war.

Yeah. Definitely worth watching. There is no time in that show where there's a plant with a lady's mouth in it, though, right? That's just for the cover. No. It's just to attract the people who are watching the last of us. Great. Wonderful.

Let's get to Randy's recommendal. Randy, you want to set this up? Sure. A few weeks ago, we asked the question, is this any good? a new sitcom. And we also asked the question, does it have a laugh track? And I'm sorry to say, yes, yes, this new sitcom does have a laugh track. And I didn't even realize it after watching the first couple of episodes. But now listening to this, one of the first scenes of the first episode, yes, the laugh track is pretty bad. But you're going to have to, you're going to have to bear

with it because it's a very funny show. Oh, all right. Well, here we go then. Mr. Fielding, I'm not a Girl Scout. But if I was, that door slam, I'd have really hurt my feelings. Though I guess I'd have the support of a nurturing community who would help rebuild my self-confidence and set me on an empowered path of discovery and self-exemptions. Who are you, and why are you still talking? My name is Abby Stone, used to work with my dad.

You're Harry's daughter. Come in. Hope you don't mind me dropping by. I found your address in the box of my dad's stuff. Yeah, no. No, it's fine. It's just, uh, sorry. It's been, well, quite a while since I've been any entertaining.

Oh, duck sauce. For later. I was sorry to hear about your father. We lost touch over the years, but he was a great guy. I know he felt the same way about you. I almost didn't recognize you with the beard. Pictures you always look so put together. Not that the beard isn't a good look.

It's a great way to cover up a weird neck. Not that your neck is weird. It's, wow, look at that view. You know what I got to say before you get anything? I'm surprised how most people as they age, their voices change, like Picard or whoever, right? They just, their voice change. It's normal. It's part of age.

But John Laracette doesn't sound any different to me. It doesn't. He's trying really hard. Like, you can really see he doesn't have anywhere near that. energy nor the physical fall-down slapstick comedy, you know, that he used to have. But he's trying really hard. And the first few episodes of the new night court show him, uh, transform back into a thing. And so he has to start out kind of slow with a big beard and he's not interested and so

forth. And then he, right. He evolves. Um, but it's really this, this series is not about Dan fielding. Believe it or not, but, you know, the character that made the original night. court it's the series is not about him it's about all of these other characters and you have uh india de beaufort who uh came uh she was on she was schneider's girlfriend on uh one day at a time the remake uh she is the mac character she's incredible uh in in this like just so straight funny um you have

the uh bailiff played like by lecreda um i i can't i can't really place lecrette lec for you very very easily she's you know she's been coming up through a lot of uh of different series but she is absolutely perfect for this oh she was on broad city i'd love she was great on it's only a single episode i think yeah there it is just one episode i remember this lady from that that's where her she's great i like her i like her a lot she funny in this her character is named gurgs and i just like like someone just like threw some letters into a like SpaghettiOs or something like gurgs what how do you can but she is just she is a laugh a minute nonstop funny as the you know the hard-nosed bailiff who is really really in tune with everything

going on um does the laugh track ding this thing do you feel like it it's it's you know could they've done it without it i guess i'm saying yes they absolutely could have done it without it as i've said before young sheldon proves that you can you can do a sitcom without a laugh track and Speaking of, you know, Sheldon, you know, this whole thing lives and dies on Melissa Rouch as Harry Stone's daughter now judge in Nightcourt. She's great. She's absolutely great. She's so crazy to hear her voice not doing the gang theory voice that she did. It feels like listening to a podcast at slower speed.

I was actually thinking, I wonder if she's going to trot out Bernadette every now and then for a joke. And she doesn't at all. and you know this is her show uh it's it's a lot more serious than the original was that's this the way of remakes right okay like uh but that's not like fresh prince or cobra khyb serious like no no it's just um it just takes uh its subject matter more seriously like the the point of each episode is very well established and there's a bit less of the brent spiner you know coming in and making a funny voice yeah right gotcha right and so are the i mean is that for every episode like it's its own case right or is it is it is this more overarchy story so far it the reason

i'm recommending it is because it is just flat out remaking night court like if you liked the original night court you're going to like this and that's why i'm recommending it because i love the original night court it is it is really going there like where you're you're you're you have it's it's serialized um there are very few like arcing stories like it so far like over six or seven episodes there's only been two stories that crossed over an episode you know yeah um it's just it's just fun i just like i mean your arc is going to be does dan stay or leave because like that's he's he's kind of tentatively there oh right have you've been watching as well Nicole sounds like oh yeah I started watching it when it first came out I watched the first two

episodes like the day they released I'm like oh my god I love this so much that's great oh that's great I'm happy to hear that um it just it blows my mind that John Laurentette kind of hasn't been doing this for 20s right yeah because he he just it it belongs to him you know this this character this attitude that he hasn't been doing anything other than the last thing I remember him in was Madhouse with Kirstie Alley. Oh, gosh, that's a long time ago. That's been a while, too, yeah. A long time ago.

Remember when modern family started and you were like, oh, Ed O'Neill, right on? Right. That was only, that was only maybe seven years after the end of, you know, his previous show, you know? Yeah. And, like, he really nails it. Like, you can do that as a comedic actor. You can keep making series and change characters and go on and do great things. and John Laracette just like I don't know maybe maybe he maybe he doesn't actually like this like maybe the character not wanting to work at night court is a reflection of the actor not really I could see one maybe he's got like he he pops into stuff like he's in a bunch of little random things here and there it doesn't it just feels like maybe he doesn't need to to do anything like we've talked about executive producer of this too is he brought this he brought the show back that's great

I like him so I'm glad to see him back That's awesome And all the Every character Every character that you're expecting Is perfectly cast Like I say India de Beaufort is hysterical La Cretta's hysterical

The other of the five main characters Is Neil Played by Kapil Tewalker And he is just he's just always spot on I like that guy He's great I love how this thing is cast I just hope it goes on

for six seasons and a movie. Seriously, it's so funny. Ooh, six seasons and a movie. Do you know the original creator of Nightcourt? His name was Reinhold Weege. Oh, yes. Because it's all over every episode of Nightcourt. That's true.

Yeah, you see that one of the last names you see in the opening credits. He died in 2012. The music in the remake is remade music, and it was apparently all recorded for this remake by John LaRquette's son. Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. That's very cool. This guy wrote three episodes of fish,

34 episodes of Barney Miller, an episode of MASH. That dude was round. He had stuff to do. Anyway, good job, Reinhold Weege. May your memory of the line. Good old Reinhold Weege. All right.

Nicol, let's get to yours. I'm very excited to hear about this because this is on my cue and has been for a bit, and I'm very excited. Or you want me to just play? Bump it up in your queue because after watching Glass Onion, I was like, I need more of this. I need more Ryan.

I need more Ryan Johnson. So when I saw that he was attached to this show, I was like, I'm on it. And I started watching it the day it released. I'm trying to like, it's each episode. So you have an overarching thing that's happening. But each episode is it's contained within itself. So this stars a woman that you may or may not like. I find that you either like her or you don't.

I personally, I'm one that loves her. Yeah, she's great. Mark and I, he can't listen to. He can't do it. Really? Oh, interesting. Okay.

No, I think you're right, though. She's a little divisive in that regard. Yeah. But I love her. I love her. And it's on Peacock. All right. Here's your clip.

Weird. What's weird? You know, I just bought a few scratches myself. I didn't win anything, though. It's a fool's paths of riches. But I did notice every ticket has a serial number. It's printed right there on the side. And, well, the serial numbers are apt to be sequential.

That means in order. I know. So? So then I remember that I saw this trucker playing one of those kinds of scratchouts this morning. It was a gold rush. Right before I picked up my car, which was right before you bought your ticket. This trucker, he didn't win anything. He threw it away.

You know. I know. So she sounds, she's the only person in Hollywood that sounds 75 and 28 at the same time. I don't get it. I know. Exactly. She's so weird. Yeah.

And the older she gets, the harder her voice gets. Yeah. Yeah. Seen some things. So Natasha Leon, right? Yep. Nailed it. All right.

So this is Pokerface It is a serial show with episodes And she is You know You hear her in that clip and you're like Oh she must be a detective No she is not

She is not a detective But she solves murders He has the ability And this is if you watch the trailer to the show She has the ability to detect Anytime someone is lying and so you follow her the first episode kind of sets up like well if she can do that she must be amazing at gambling right and so you get that setup of her working in a casino and why she's working in the casino and adrian brodie is in the first episode so you're you're going to you're going to see a lot of famous actors kind of pop in each one of these episodes yeah well One of the trailers made it look like an all-star cast.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's so many names. Yeah. They have a lot of amazing actors and actresses that come through. From what I've seen and heard, it feels very much like, like, you know, you mentioned the overarching story, but each self-contained, like 70s episodic detective television kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Very, very, very, again, very Columbo, but again, not a detective. It's such an interesting mix of people. on the one hand, Simon Headberg, on the other hand, Pedro Hollywood, also Ellen Barkin for some reason, Chloe Savigny, or however you say your name, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Tim Blake Nelson, Ron Perlman, I'm in. I'm all in on this. Why wouldn't you be in? It sounds like the people want to work with her or him in the same way that they do in his movies, like knives out and freaking the other one, Glass Onion. We're so chock-full of people that were probably just

dying to work with Ryan Johnson, and here you have it again. It's great. Just one episode, yeah, it's great. I will say I have a feeling by the time I get to the end. So I'm like five episodes in. It's kind of get a little formulaic. Like, you get the setup, you get the, you get to see the murder. And then you get a rewind and how she fits into it. How's Nick?

I like that. You just start to predict it a little bit, sure. Yeah. And you kind of, you're kind of, you're, You're meant to, you know, no pun intended, peel back the layers of the story. We'll see what you did there. Yeah. Yes, yes.

So how's Nick Nolte in his episode? That I need to know. I need to know how Nick Nolte is doing. I haven't seen that episode. Just how is he in general? Is he doing okay? You just got to check on him. You got to check on the guy.

It doesn't look right. So you got to make sure he's okay. I love Nick. I'm going to text and check in. Hey, Nick, how are you? I am fine. Let's see if he goes back to you. Is there any episode where,

where the murder involves a cock-a-roach? No. No, okay, darn. All right. But there is an episode about barbecue. Okay. And it's called the stall. And I have never heard of the term the stall until before I watched this episode,

Mark was telling me he's going to do a new audio podcast with another guy called The Stahl. And it's going to be about barbecue. Oh, wow. So apparently the stall is when you're cooking. like say a brisket and the temperature just kind of stops yeah and you keep it out of heat and it doesn't go up so when you say stall it's not like a stall as in the location like a bathroom stall but like yeah see that's that's I'm not eating anybody's barbecue if it's made in a stall no you don't want that in a bathroom stall but but by stall you mean like stop like pause yeah

yeah the temperature will not go any higher and so as a someone doing barbecue you have to get it to break the, you know, either you hold it there or you want to get it to cook more. So it's, yeah, so it's a whole process. And I would have never have known the double meaning of that episode unless I had talked to Mark like two days prior. Wow. So there you go. You learn a little too.

I want to see it. That's poker face on peacock right now. Peacock plus, freecock, whatever they're doing. All right. Excellent. Here's mine. Let's get weird. Hold on.

What you did did is that woman was dreadful. She killed my brother. I would have done the same thing if she killed you. You're like a brother to me. Oh, you're my best friend in the whole world. I don't think I'm your best friend in the whole world. You used to spend much more time with John. Oh, who's John?

John, the limping man. Oh, yeah. I didn't even remember his name. All right. Awesome. You are such on a Colin Farrell kick right now. I really am. I can't get enough of him.

I loved him in, um, it's a little. out of order, but the gentleman, which I recommended last week, I actually watched after this, but he was in that, loved that part for him. This is the lobster from 2015, which I never saw. Everybody at the time said, Scott, you got to see this weird thing. It's the weirdest thing ever. And I just wasn't

in the mood that year. I think I recommended it. I think you did. I think you did. Yeah. Like, way back then, Nicole actually was the one I think that first told me about it. And I was told it was strange. This your ghost Lathamos, how he say his name. He's a Greek director supposedly makes nothing but weird stuff

and normally that's totally in my wheelhouse but for whatever reason I just didn't do it and I finally got around to it because it was on HBO Max I'm like well there it is I'm going to hit play let's see what we get here and I loved and was also kind of insane by the movie like I really like what they did and there's so many people in this Colin Farrell we mentioned

Rachel Weiss is in it Jessica Barton Um, one I would like to mention who's always good is, uh, if I can find her name. Olivia Coleman. Olivia Coleman. Thank you very much. She's fantastic in it. Uh, very small role, but great. Um, and, uh, you heard in that clip Colin Farrell talking to, uh, oh, his name's on

the top cast. So I have to look it up slow, slow, slow way. What's his name? Here's his voice. What you did is that woman was dreadful. It's a, see Riley. John C. Riley. Jeez, Louise.

Yeah. Playing the weirdest character ever. Um, one of my favorite. I don't know if you call him a character actor. I guess you do. He's just a young character actor. But one of my favorites is, if I can find the guy's name. Oh, my gosh, I'm bad today with names.

It is, you'll know it. If you see it, it's this guy. Ben Winshaw or Wishaw. Oh, Ben Wishaw, yeah. He's in tons of stuff, right? Like a million things. An amazing actor. Incredible to just watch.

I'd watch him do anything. He played a rabbi in Fargo season four, I think. Everything comes back to Fargo. It often does. All roads lead to Fargo. Yeah, he's so good in that. Anyway, I love that guy, and he's a very weird part. He's a key in Skyfall or Skyfall.

He's our new cue. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he's right. Yeah, exactly right. He's also extremely good in that Mary Poppins Returns movie. Just an incredible Michael Banks character. He plays Michael Banks, the dad, and he's fantastic, really good. anyway a whole thing filmed in Ireland yeah I think so I think this entire thing was

filmed in Ireland although it's mostly British actors with a few Irish actors thrown in including Farrell and the occasional American and the occasional American right Rachel Weiss is amazing as she always is and everything um my gigantic crush on her I just never can quite get over her I'll never get over it's our in the mummy that was it I was done from then on any movie she's in I'm like sign me up and I haven't seen anything this weird since the fountain do you guys remember the fountain? Oh yeah. Yes. I wish you hadn't gone there. I was hoping you were going to compare it to something I really liked. I mean, I kind of love, hate the fountain. Or the invention of lying. Is it like downsizing? It's, it's, I don't know what this is like. This is like the

strangest film I've ever seen. Drop down funny as the invention of lying or. Oh, there's very little humor in the lobster. It's just not a funny movie. There's a couple of moments maybe, but Colin Farrell put on like 40 pounds for the roll And so he's just a bit of a schlub And I don't even know what to make of it Honestly to this moment I still don't know what the lobster's about You know it also has the tone you remember the what is called the the queen What was the one where the queen was really weird

Oh the favorite the favorite Oh the favorite yes right with Olivia Coleman and yeah same guy same director Yeah same dude Oh is it the same director? Yeah same director yeah same director made that, I believe. It explains the tone. Let me look at that real quick. I think that's a lot weird.

This lobster is a lot weird than the favorite, but the favorite's great. Yeah, the favorite is his. He did the killing of the sacred deer, which I will see next. That was another, that was a recommendal from Nicole as well. Yep. I think he went on a bit of a run, Nicole, and watched all his stuff. So now I'm just catching up. Anyway, it's the lobster.

It's on HBO Max. And if you want to be weirded out, just for the sake of it. it, you'll have a great time. Is there, are there any like gore elements or like anything scary? No, not really. Just uncomfortable and odd. Oh, you're very so uncomfortable. Yeah, there are moments where the dialogue is this weird, stilted, everyone's not really

being themselves kind of quality to it. So when there is someone who finally shows some actual emotion that they would show in that situation, you realize that they're actually breaking out of whatever this construct is it's a lot there's i even tell you the plot the plot is basically that people get turned into animals at their end of life because they were bad i guess yeah it's so weird it's so weird so so it's a long episode of black mirror it's no because black mirror always has like a tech angle i wouldn't even compare it to like uh you know twilight zone like that there's not a like oh, you're getting your comeuppance because you did this.

It's like, nope, this is just a weird world where you turn into an animal at the end of your life. Yeah, and they don't even ever show that process. Like, that's the thing hanging over the whole thing, but they never really get to it. There's a scene where, oh, the end of the movie when Carl and Farrell goes to that bathroom and you assume what he's doing in there is what he's doing. We don't talk about the end. It's not, it doesn't give anything away because nothing happens. It's so weird. The camera just goes away.

It ends. There's credit. And you're like, what the F did I just do? But I wasn't sad that I did it. So anyway, it's cool. It's the lobster. It's weird. It's experiment.

It's way better than, you know, you're making it. Not better than you're making a sound, but it's better than it sounds like it on paper. It's really good, but it is really weird. Yeah. Like, here's what I'm saying. It's weird for the weirdness's sake, but it's also incredibly acted, directed, tonally. The music use in it is not normal.

It's like, usually you have some. sort of score. This has a lot of punctuation. And at times where it doesn't seem like it even fits. Like he's just sitting in his hotel room looking out the window and the music is going, bunk, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, you know. And you don't know why. And you don't care because you're in your ghost Lathamos's head and he's just having, he's having his way with you. So anyway. My prediction is that Scott's next movie is going to be Roman J. Israel Esquire

because it has Colin Farrell in it. I almost watched it or I tried to watch. a documentary for today. I just ran out of time, but Peter Jackson made a really cool documentary about World War I, and I've been wanting to see it because I've been in a Peter Jackson mood, and I didn't have time. So anyway, that may be next week, but. Did you watch the Beatles documentary? I still haven't, no. I saw, it's supposed to be great. I mean, you guys recommended it here. Part two hasn't come out yet. Part two hasn't come out yet, hasn't? Is there a part two? I don't know it was a part two. You're talking about Get Back, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

they only, they did two parts. I thought all the episodes, of that were released all at once. The new part is Paul McCartney at age 70. And it's hard to call it a documentary. It's basically like six hours of Beatles' home movies. It's so weird,

which are good. Don't get me wrong, but it's, yeah. You're not complaining. It's hours of home movies that have been subjected to some kind of magic arcana. I can't get over how good it looks. Well, this is what he does, man. Peter Jackson's all.

This is his mood, because this is this World War I documentary is him restoring old WW1 footage and having it look amazing and he did that with the beel stuff. Yeah, it is frightening. Yeah, it is frightening. We're all going to die. He also, Brian and I...

Here's a side recommendation and I think Brian will agree with me. Brian, you tell me if you agree with me. I don't want to speak for you, but... Yeah, get out of my mouth. I watched the, I watched Fellowship of the Ring, two towers, return to the king, all in a row. Yeah. Yeah.

And Brian said, well, I did that too. Weird, we've been doing the same time. And I moved on to Hobbit. And I'm like, you know what? I'll probably do that too. And then eventually we'll get to the new series. So I started watching The Hobbit. I think I've been too hard on The Hobbit.

I think it, I think if you go outside of the hype bubble that was around at the time, I'm not saying they're the same. That's part of the problems. They're not the same. They're very different stories. There's much more humor in The Hobbit. Like, that is the truth of the books as well. And so getting away from the moment of everybody comparing it to 10 years previous and one of the greatest film trilogies of all time, I think I was too hard on The Hobbit. I think I am enjoying this watch a lot, like a lot.

I'm enjoying The Hobbit. I think I feel like I was just, it was as hard on it as I needed to be at the time. Here's the deal. I got a suggestion for you. This will fix it. 100% because we also recently watched the, oh, this. It's on HBO, right? Yeah.

sat and watched 12 hours of Return of the Ring, all that. And I realized coming out of the trilogy and then going into Hobbit Part 1 was a huge mistake. All you have to do

is watch the Hobbit movies first, then re-watch Lord of the Rings. It'll be great. Really? That's the order you need to do. Okay. Yeah, my problem that I'm having with the Hobbit is I feel like there's too much of the really weird

going down the river in barrels and then the barrels are swinging around and like they're killing orcs while they're in the barrels and they're doing like a pole vaulting with the barrels and stuff like that. They had to keep, was it a 3D movie?

It feels like they had to do some stuff to make it interesting for 3D, right? Like forest, oh, let's have this really cool zooming down the water and then the same thing with Legolas writing an orc down the side of a hill and stuff.

Once you ignore those things, I do feel like the Hobbit is a much better film. But it's those moments that it's like, oh, God. They're a little slapsticky. I don't feel like Tolkien wanted any of that stuff. Maybe not. I guess I kind of agree with that. I guess I would just say,

tonally. Get through that stuff. Yeah. And if you just get tonally through it and also the acting's really good. Those guys that play all the dwarves are great. Oh, yeah. I really just watch Hobbit movies first.

And then you don't have the Lord of the Rings hanging over it. Lee Pace is great. You know, seeing Legolas and Evangeline Lilly in there as well. I mean, there's some really good moments in The Hobbit. Yeah. It's funny, though, how critical I am of Legolas riding an orc. And how not critical I was of Legolas single-handedly taking down a giant elephant and sliding down his trunk. You know what I mean?

doing the whole like sliding down sliding down the hoof and then whew like spinning around it and yeah like somehow somehow i'm forgiving of that and in fact i think i cheered at that having even watched those two scenes as close together as i did i'm totally with you like yeah that's better the lord of the rings one is better but why you know why isn't this one work and for all those people there's so many ways there's so many ways the hobbit movies are better than the book and that's like i i don't like that argument it was like it was one book it should have in one movie. You know, like the three books were three movies. I disagree. It's better than the book because in the book, you get the Hobbit and you get two dwarves and all the rest. You get

Thorne, Balin, and all the rest. And in the book, you don't get to see them and feel how they're all a little different from each other, you know? And so in the movies, you get to really explore all those and these incredible actors, right? Like James Nesbitt and Aidan Turner, like you get to see them and you have spend some time with them and it's just so much better yeah the dishes scene bugged me it was a little too hairy oh they're cleaning the dishes after uh the yeah it was a harry potter scenes it's what it reminded me there was yeah it does feel like it does feel like it's it's lord of the rings with a harry potter yeah uh varnish yeah a little bit and it's not it's not again i'm just i think i was too hard on it in general i also never saw the 60 frame i was gonna say

the one that looked like a soap opera we did and that that that made it that would drive me crazy what if instead of a Harry Potter facade what if it's a Disney facade like it's like Fantasia or Beauty and the Beast kind of a little bit yeah I mean it's got it's just more fantastical in a much more kids kid friendly way and if it's not a really great way of saying it but you know Lord of the Rings all of the effects and stuff were meant to be and mm and er and orcs and you know this is more like, I'm running through a fancy forest with shit flying everywhere.

And it's, you know, I don't know. It's, it's got its issues, but I'm really enjoying this, this watch through because I was so hard on it back then. I just, I'm having a good time. I agree. I've been enjoying it more than I did at the time. But did we all watch this stuff because it was pushed to

us on HBO Max? Well, it's Netflix is what got me doing it because Netflix just got the original trilogy. And so I ended up coming back to Max for Hobbit, because Hobbit's only there. But I guess they're both on both places right now? Oh, I didn't think the Hobbit was on Netflix. No, I'm sorry, Hobbit's not.

You're right. The Hobbit definitely isn't. But the first three or the, sorry, the trilogy, the Lord of the Rings trilogy is on both services right now. And I didn't know that. So I watched them all one place. Right. And then went and looked and went,

oh, they're all over here. Why did I bother going over here in the first place? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It's great, though. It's good stuff. I love it. I think we're lucky any of it exists, to be honest.

We are. And I think at some point, we are talking about watching the animated for film sack watching the animated Hobbit. That one is Ralph Bakshi right? That is absolutely Ralph Bakshi. Yeah. I don't want to, because I accidentally

said Ralph Bakshy when I meant Don Bluth the other day and it's like, nope, I want to make sure I get this one right. Yeah. No, we got to do that. I'm going to veto a movie. You can't veto that. You can't. That's too cool. And we don't do enough animation. We got to, that we have to do that. We have to. I'm telling you right now.

it wrong, TV's Travis says, Rankin, Bass did the Hobbit, Backshe did, that's right, back she did Lord of the Rings. I remember tons of Gallum, so it had to be Lord of the Rings. Oh, right. That was Lord of Yes, because that had the... We're watching one of those. Maybe we're watching Lord of the Rings. Because they had the weird motion

capture Nazgoul and everything in it, right? Yes. That was so weird. I loved it. Tell Mark, I want someone, whatever he's cooking. That'd be fantastic. I don't have lunch. Can you smell what the Mark is cooking? It's great having you both on. Thanks for these recommendals. put them up on quick tmsdly they're already there already there thank you all very much for

being here randy thank you for being here nicole go have some good barbecue we'll see you soon by now everybody okay there they all go now here's the deal at the end of the show oh there's a deal i'm gonna finish things with an email regarding the pulled arm from a socket thing we talked about and how movies do it and we hate that they do them oh yeah dislocated sure dislocated shoulders are too easy to pop in in a movie that kind of stuff and whack in it against the hood of a car to get it back in place. That's right. This guy named Brett Rodin says,

Hello, Scoot and Boot. I believe a couple of weeks ago, there was a discussion on how it is not believable that someone could dislocate their shoulder and then continue anything afterwards. It was the opinion shared that the amount of pain would render someone inoperable for some time afterwards. I think that is what we came to.

Yeah. I will start by saying that I would totally agree with this generally accepted premise. However, a recent example shows that there are exceptions. The link below. Oh, I don't have the link. dang it. I think he forgot the link. Anyway, the link below is a story

about how during 2022's Tour de France Roggjlick, I guess that's a racer, crashed on one of the stages dislocating his shoulder. He then popped it back in and continued racing. You can look this story up as well. It's easy to find. He continued for another

nine days of racing after that until finally abandoning due to being in extreme pain. I think that's more what we were saying. In the middle of the adrenaline, I think you can make it through certain things for sure yeah but then it's like okay this is overwhelming i can't do it and yeah yeah and he was okay two months later and raced again so there's that but uh bottom line he says people like

rogic are not common but it shows that continuing with the dislocated shoulders more plausible than it would seem at first glance thanks brett all right brett you know what you got it's a point it's a good point it's a nuanced addition to the discussion i don't want to hurt i don't want to pull anything out and then keep going But if I had to, I think I probably could. That doesn't sound right. That all sounded wrong, didn't it? Didn't it?

I wish we still had ice worm doing the audio clips. Yeah, or Jamie. Either one. Or Jamie. Yeah. All right, let's get out of here. We've got to mention our Patreon because that's what we do. We're ending the month here soon.

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We also like to play songs here on the show and Brian, I'll bet has an end of song or end-of-show song to play. Oh my gosh, I do. I hope you're ready for something heavy because this is some heavy stuff. Jimmy Akron wrote in when he's in chat. He's lead underscore Zep,

Led Zep. Hi, Shaxon, Benchee, 44. know what the reference is somebody goes out there first time long time finally remember to request a song for my 41st birthday and it never hurts to hear a rockin song love the show though and you can eat rice oh my gosh well first this let's party then uh where's the rice it's here somewhere oh shit hold on no i like fried chicken that's not it what happened to rice oh my gosh now i I have to do it. I don't know what that was. All right. Hold on. Rice. I like fried chicken. You can eat out. I like fried chicken. That kid is a genius. Let's see. Here it is. Total genius. See how we eat. No, that's backwards. Hold on. Is this it?

No. Oh, my gosh. Why is this so hard? Oh, here it is. Then you can eat rice. Sorry. Geez, Louise. It's really hard to find that. Anyway. I've forgotten where we were. What are we doing? I don't know where we even do. What's going on here? Yeah, no. Jim wanted to hear the Darkness is cover, man, I miss the darkness. The Darkness's cover of Street Spirit Fade Out by Radiohead. This you can find on their album, Permission to Land from 2003.

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