The Morning Stream - TMS 2428: Uncomfortably Numb

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

The Tramp Stamp Generation. Rock, paper, scissors, gold, ceramic. Facing mortality at the dentist. In case of Van, don't break glass. Accidentally Racist Bones. Method Hurling! Experts in All Things Fecal. Get A Singer For A Song!! Gold is the gold standard. It-sa me, Lego-las. I'm fine poopin' in a box. 2 Cats Enter 1 Cat Leaves. A Tattooism. Elf Violation. Some of my best friends are dogs. Fingering Hems With Bill. Not Bill's Birthday with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, the Tramp Stamp Generation. Rock, paper, scissors, gold ceramic. Facing mortality at the dentist. In case of then, don't break glass. Accidentally racist bones. Method hurling. Experts in all things fecal. Get a singer for a song.

Gold is the new gold standard. It's a me, a Legolas. I'm fine, pooping in a box. Two cats enter. One cat leaves. A tattooism. Elf violation. Some of my best friends are dogs.

Fingering. Hems with Bill, not Bill's birthday with Bobby, and more on this episode of the morning stream. I guess you're the pilot who took the job. We have been seeing unusual activity in this asteroid field for a while. A night and a five scout ships

patrolling the area. We want you to take care of them. It looks like people. The morning stream. You know something, Amigo? When you go down, it's going to be over a skirt. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's Tuesday, February 28, 2023. I had to think for a second. Last day of the month, man. 28th, Brian. Not always, but this year just happens to be the last day of the month. Yep. What are you going to do to celebrate the final day, the waning moments of February

2023? What are you going to do? I'm going to take care of a little freelance, some work on a bed bug website and a soap, a soap advertisement. And then I'm probably going to go drive people around for Lyft. Ah, well, there you go then. See? Look. And get the car ready for something that we'll talk about later in the show. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, you definitely are going to talk about that. I'm so curious about it. That's why I'm glad you're guinea pig in it. because I want to know how it goes. I'm so guinea pigging it. If it comes back with like vomit in the backseat and a dead guy in the trunk, then we'll know what the thing.

Then there goes their security deposit. Yep. Oh, yeah. That's it. Yeah. Well, speaking of security, many of us have mothers. You know, we were born with a mother. And I decided, or didn't decide, we had a bunch of plans to do.

We had a barrage of family things this weekend. One of them was we had to, or we were. I say had to. We really liked doing it, so there's no have to, but we watched Van, and we had them overnight, and we took them to the aquarium, and just had a blast. Kids are freaking riot, man. Have yourself a four-year-old. They're so much fun.

Anyway, so that's all going on. You can't start younger than that, though, unfortunately. You can't just have the four-year-old. No, no. Well, I mean, you can't if you adopt at the exact right time. Oh, that's true. Yeah, that's good point. Sometimes those kids come with kennel cough and ear infections, if you know what I'm saying.

Anyway. Well, that's a call back to the pre-show. Become a Patreon, and you'll know what we're talking. talking about that's right get in there and have a listen anyway so uh part of this was we were going to take him and uh spend a bunch of time with my mom on sunday so we did went out there around noon and uh a little worried because you know he's four he wants to play he wants to run around and my mom's house and at this stage of her life is just all very ornate and perfectly placed and a lot of glass things and like stuff that looks like it'll break if you freaking

look at it wrong that kind of thing yeah But we were okay in that regard. We're having a big conversation. Van's sitting in Kim's lap, chilling out. And we were talking about tattoos because people in their 80s and 90s just cannot fathom them. They just can't understand them. They don't know. I mean, even our age, it took a little bit of adjustment because when you and I were kids,

it was like, oh, yeah, Popeye has a tattoo. And people who are in the armed services usually had tattoos and bikers had them. But that was about it. That was kind of it. Then the NBA had them. you know, we sort of got used to them. Yeah, we adapted fairly quickly, but it's the previous generation that's had a hard time. You and I are the crossover, I think, for, we are. I think, yeah, we're the, we're the middle of the gradation. And which is, which is kind of funny,

because we're both kind of hesitant. We're both willing to do something meaningful if we ever get one. Yes. Yes. But we're kind of hesitant, not really in a hurry, you know. Oh my God. You've kind of nailed it, right? The generation before us, for the most part, got tattoos if they had to. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then the generation after ours just gets tattoos because they like something right now. Yeah.

It's like that video, I think I talked about it on the show with the guy, he's doing all the generations. And he starts with, how did he do it? He starts with Z's, like Gen Zs, and they see a gay character in a TV show. And the Gen Zs just kind of look at it. Okay, nothing. They don't have any reaction. It's just normal to them. Sure, sure.

The millennials see it, and they go, yes, all right, you go. That's, yeah, woo! Right, like that. Uh-huh. Gen Xers go, he's gay. Who? Right, we kind of laugh at it because we're giggling and we're like a little embarrassed or whatever. And then the boomers are like, oh, turn the channel.

This is some bullshit. The boomers like, well, I guess I'm done watching that show. That's the end of that one. I mean, boycotting that show. So it's a little like that, I think, with some of this. So tattoos. Let's talk about tattoos and racism in the same conversation. Sure, sure, I guess.

My mother is, well, okay, first of all, John, old man John's over there saying, I don't understand. I mean, why would you? It's a permanent thing. And if you want it off, you got to use a laser. And it hurts like hell. And I said, well, John, that is getting it off. So you're not, you can remove them. Well, yeah, but why would you?

There's so much pain. I said, I'm, you know, I'm kind of with you. I don't really want one, but I don't think you need to throw an entire couple generations under the bus. because they've embraced this body art business. So he's just kind of cranky about it. And my mom pipes up, and she goes, she goes, the only part I think is weird. Because when I really started to see a lot of tattoos,

my mom says, was in the National Basketball Association. There were always like a lot of tattoos on players. And you always knew who, or she goes, if there was one player without tattoos, it was almost like he was the different. one now and I'm like okay yeah you're right did she really call it the national basketball association she called her the NBA but I'm you know okay I'm probably darned I was really hoping that I refuse to call it the NBA I kind of wish she would have as well but anyway so she's going on and and and then she says

those ones where they get them from like their wrist all the way up to their arm I said yeah they call that a sleeve mom and she goes yeah the sleeve when they do that it's so interesting and so intricate and everyone's got a million little stories about it, but I don't think it works as well on the blacks. And I said, the blacks? What? She goes, she goes, yeah, it just makes it darker. It makes it seem like you can't see it very well because they're already, you know how they're already dark? As if it's a question. I'm like, yes, Mom, I know how black people are already darker than me, the whitest man on the planet. Right, right. And she just kept going on about this, you know, the blacks, the blacks and I thought

there's not my mom does not have a racist bone in her body but she has many bones that are accidentally and of her generation racist do you know what I mean like just these weird little comments

that are funky and out of place and just sort of like the blacks like mom say black people say people of color it doesn't work as well with people with darker skin

or you know it's harder to see the the tattoos it's oh geez yeah I mean she's she's you know Again, sweetest ladies, she'd never, she never had anything bad to say about anybody ever of any color race creed or anything. Of course, of course. It's not her thing, but in her trying to explain this at age 82, it's just all that could come out, you know?

And I'm kind of half laughing, half holding it in, and that was a lot of fun. So anyway, I guess what I'm saying is talk to your old parents or grandparents and hear them say cringy things and then tell the rest of the world about it on a morning radio show. How about that? there you go okay do that nothing like just I will keep this

between us just we'll keep this in the family yeah exactly exactly so also yesterday you may have noticed yesterday

I'm sure those listening noticed that we didn't have a show yesterday and there was a reason we didn't have a show

you know you're right now that now that you say that now I just realize we didn't have one that's right I had to go in

for a procedure for my tooth my crown that had shattered and flown off in five directions we decided so here's

what we decided. We decided that there was, there were a few choices on the table. Pull it out entirely and like, who cares? Let me be a redneck in the back. Who cares? Right? Sure. No offense to rednecks without teeth. There's this in the front, redneck in the back. There you go. There you go. And I thought, no big deal. What is that? Like 200 bucks, you know, dental stuff's expensive, anything more than that. The other option was just straight up replace it with another ceramic based, you know the crown and third option was maybe go for the gold

you know yeah like an actual gold tooth like uh yeah yeah like yee or yay or yeezus whatever he's calling himself this week I was gonna say easis but I think he's just yay now right

just yay is he just yay okay I think he's he Heil Hitler now I think well he's very much of that yes anyway so I got one above it that's gold I've had since I was 19. So in my mind, part of the problem is that the gold one is the quote unquote gold standard. And every time it bites down,

it wins the fight. That's why this one breaks is my theory. Yeah. And he says, Two teeth enter, one teeth leaves. He says you could do that, but here's what I recommend.

I recommend ceramic for the price and for the look. I'm like, I don't care anymore. I don't look. I really don't care. I'm not trying to impress anybody with my face. Yeah. Hey, check out.

Did you tell which of my teeth are ceramic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no kidding. The problem is gold is, like, high right now, the cost of gold or the investments and all that stuff is way high. I guess gold futures or whatever they call it. And so what would normally be, let's say, a thousand dollar crown currently is like three grand. And that could go down, but that's where it's at today to buy, to get that much gold. And he says, here's an option you haven't considered. So fourth option now on the table.

Okay. He says, you get the ceramic crown, but underneath it, we put this fancy new space age freaking cement that has never been stronger than the history of time. Oh, gosh. Wow. Okay. And I said, well, what's the price for that? And so of all of the options, the cheapest was pull the tooth, I'm out 200 bucks. This option was about $500, $600.

Okay. And the other two were up in the thousands. Yeah, and it feels like that would be the way to go. If it's, you know, the back teeth, I've got a missing tooth here on the front, not the front, but on the side. That's not one that I chew with. The dentist says, you know, you can, that's pretty much hidden by your smile unless you do like a big old toothy grin. And even then, you know, it's not super noticeable. Plus, it's not one of the ones you eat with.

So up to you if you want to replace it or not. Right. I like it because it's a place for me to put. my gum when I'm eating an outback steakhouse but uh stick it in there the yeah just jamming in there and get my fresh peppermine after I finish my steak um

the uh I know like a lot of people I've hope but I get more ews than just genie but uh but with yours that's you know that's an important location that's a chewing tooth it is a chewing tooth yeah and the weird and the weird thing with that

them recommending an all ceramic tooth it can only make me think of one thing. Okay, if I've got a gold hammer and I hit a ceramic vase, that ceramic vase is going to shatter light, you know, instantly. That's exactly right. That's exactly what I said. I didn't use that example, but I'm like, isn't that the problem? Gold beats. It's just a, it's a rock paper, scissors thing. Gold beat ceramic. Yeah, right. Exactly. I think, you know, and he says, the hand symbols are for those, but he says that's true, but, um, this is like, I guess the stuff they use for teeth now, it's not like simply ceramic. It's

like really dense and it is tough stuff so usually when this thing gives me trouble like every couple years it's that the whole thing came off not that it shatters this last one was a little bit weird so he thinks that uh gold's not a soft metal it's a pliable metal chat room it's a little bit different i mean it's soft yes compared to other metals i mean it is considered a soft metal but if i again okay let's say not a hammer let's say i take my wedding ring my gold wedding ring. Yeah. Not this black titanium bullshit I'm wearing.

No, forget that. My gold ring and I hit my hand against a ceramic vase. Still going to shatter. Still going to break, probably. Still going down, yeah, exactly. So I think you're right. I think I was right. And he agreed.

But he says, I think this is the perfect mix of price and durability. Let's go this middle route. Now, turns out what that means is I got there at 9 a.m. No, is it 9. whatever it was. Four hours in that chair. And I got to get triple numbed because my fat head is slow to numb. So no matter where you put the needle, it's like, how are you feeling?

It's still not doing anything. Okay, we'll come back in 20 minutes. Oh, that's the worst. I hate it. And then when he finally goes in, and it hurt like, it was like, oh, wait a minute, that freaking hurts. And he goes, all right, that's what I thought. Takes out the needle again.

It goes deeper, burr, moving my cheek around. Harts like hell. Hit that little nerve that shoots a thing through your eye and your, tongue and everything. Yes. He goes, all right, I think I got it. Then that's another 20, 30 minutes of letting it settle. Then he came back.

Then they do all the work. They do the 3D scan. They're in there doing their little 3D machine thing they do. And then he's got to mill the thing and wait for that. And then, blah, blah, blah, blah. Four hours in that chair. Oh, my God. Could you at least watch the Return of the King or?

That's what I should have done is watch like an extended edition of something. And I didn't. I watched a bunch of Futurama Cartagans. ring so that wouldn't have worked but um although i don't know maybe that would have been better than a bunch of cartoons that are normally funny to me and i laugh but i can't laugh i'm in the freaking dental chair oh god yeah nothing's funny you want to do comedy yeah and then the urs i would have been a good choice because you're trapped there you don't have your ipad in your lap you can read the uh you can read the subtitles yeah man and the worst here's the worst part the

girl this assistant uh dental assistant i guess was what you call them the girl I sound like somebody's old uncle Is this your new girl? Yeah, I like her new girl a lot. Bring the girl in to hose out my mouth. So she's in there and we're talking and she goes, So how long have you, how long have you been with Dr. Matthews?

I said, oh, I've been here since early since he first established and it was like two offices ago and we really like it here. It's why we keep coming back even though it's kind of a drive, you know, to get here now and because we moved and all that. she goes oh um what year and i said oh it was i think it was oh four my other reason i remember that my son is was exactly three or four years old when he first came here uh-huh and i go now he's 23 and she goes oh four oh i was only 18 months old then and i went shit that's funny an 18 month

old was here when i first came and got done a work done and now you're she wasn't there she wasn't working at the dentist's office at 18 months. No, no, no, no, but she wasn't there. They had her at front desk then. She, you know, didn't know how to hold the instruments or anything, but... And how do you spell that again? Bebo, bo, go, go, gaga, my diapers. It's a little more than a year and a half, but yeah.

Yeah, but they just, I don't know, I felt like I faced my mortality yesterday in a way. I wasn't prepared to, so that was a little bit weird. But anyway, I guess what I'm saying is, Dennis, I love my dentist. I hate going to him. He does a good job. it doesn't matter. I just don't want to go. And I always spend money there and it freaking sucks.

And then I'm starving when I leave. I have my face is all frozen up in a big glob. And, you know, I was numb until 9 p.m. last night or not totally numb, but just like sensation still. And cold drinks were hot on one side of my tongue and cold on the other. Oh, wow. So your face was like to make a DLT box. Kind of, yeah.

I expected the George Costanza with a little more hair to be singing outside of me. That's a deep cut, guys. Nicely done. Wow. Very deep, but a beautiful way. Go search Jason Alexander McDonald's commercial, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Wow. All right, Brian, I have a test for you. I meant to do this the other day, but you got busy and I just never did it. Oh, this was the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You texted me and I didn't get the text because I took a nap. Yeah, and it was the right thing for you to do. Absolutely. Because you had a busy night the night before, so it's all good. So I want to... Let's just call it a hangover. Let's just say, let's just call like it.

I'm going to put a story, a segment of a story, up on screen for the chat, and also in our Discord for you. Okay. All right. And I want you to read that. You don't have to read it out loud, but just read through it in your head, some of it, all of it, whatever you want, and kind of gauge how quickly you consumed it. All right? Okay. Roughly was it.

Okay. So I've not looked at it yet. I will do my timer on my watch. Okay. Well, that's a great idea. That's a great idea. It's kind of a sad story, but that's not the point. point. I just grab some random text off a Yahoo article.

That's a countdown timer for my damn stretches. All right. Ready? I'm hitting the start button and I'm going to scan this. All right. Here we go. So he's scanning. He's reading. It's probably annoying for me to talk while he's doing it. I really have taken my headphones off. All right. So he's getting through it. Everybody. And you're seeing it at home. Now people listening. at home on audio only. Obviously, you're not seeing this, but it's just a section of an article

from a, it doesn't really matter what the content is. All right. All right. So you feel like I've, you feel like I've got it. I've got the article. I spent, um, a 32 seconds. Now, I'm going to put something else in Discord. Okay. All right. And it's the same exact stuff, but I would like you to scan it. Uh-huh. And tell me whether you read that any faster or slower. I like this stuff. I really do. This is cool stuff. So see if you read that any faster. Well, Brian. Take your headphones off.

Yeah, to go throw up. Yep. All right. So he's doing it. He's reading it. And for those home listening, the letters or the words, I'll have a couple, two, three,

sometimes one bold letter. Way faster. And I feel like I see the first time I did read it, like I was thinking you're going to ask me questions about it. Like, how old was the student? How tall was this? I should have specified you had to worry about any of that. Yeah, no, is this something, is this an Evelyn Wood technique?

Or is this? So this is that, that it's called bionic reading. And I'd never heard of it until like the other day. Somebody had pointed it out on Twitter. And it actually freaking blew my mind because it gave me a block of text that I went, I ripped through without even thinking it. It was so fast. It was like speed reading, which I've never done.

and then I would go back and look at the stuff that wasn't that, and it's a slower go for me. They use, okay, supposedly, this is me speaking completely out of experience. I don't know how true this is or what the deal is. So maybe somebody out there can ride in, Wendy may be able to speak to it this weekend, but supposedly this is a test for those who might be kind of teetering on the edge of some level of ADHD. Like if you got kind of an ADHD thing going on and your brain wanders while you read or tries to jump ahead or tries to think ahead, you can get a little stumbling and it'll slow you down. And that this is this way, I forget why it works, but by bolding those things, it's like your brain says, oh, no, I know where this is going.

I'll finish it before you finish the word. It's kind of like if you've got, like let's say you're going down a path. Yeah. And you kind of, you know, kind of spryly hop down the path. Right. But then let's say you've got a bunch of logs or a bunch of circular stones. And you can only step on the circular stones. You're kind of taking bigger strides and going down circular stones a little faster because your mind's filling in the rest of the stuff.

Oh, I like that physical comparison. That's actually pretty good. Thank you. I appreciate. I enjoy giving you an analogy. actually it's a good one it feels right to me so so like yeah i don't know what it means for me except i went and found um a browser add on a browser plugin that lets me on any page on the internet i just hit this button it's called what's it called uh so people can get it it's called bionic

reader and you can get it for any chromium browsers i think if firefox has it and you can get it on i don't think you can get it on uh safari i don't i could be wrong it might be there I'm looking it up right now. Safari's weird with how they do their stuff. Yeah. I both love it and hate it. I love how Safari saves resources by doing this because it's the fastest browser on the planet,

so it's so fast. But it's such a pain in the ass to do any kind of browser plugins. Yeah, it is. But anyway. Yeah, actually there is, it's called Outread Speed Reading, and it does that bionic reading thing. Oh, very nice.

Oh, it's customizable. is it let you just scan a page and convert it kind of i'll have to try it there's uh there's in-app purchases which to me means you can use it for free for seven days and then you're going to have to pay for it well i kind of hope i don't know if this is exactly yeah i don't know if this is oh really they want a yearly for it yeah yeah this other one's free well anyway the uh i don't i haven't found anything that'll do this yet but i kind of want a kind of want a kindle plug-in or a freaking something like that just to see how a book reads because to me i mean i'm not kidding when i say this night and day for me like yeah that's a huge difference huge and i think it's probably

going to vary for people some people in her chat were like nope doesn't do a thing for me some people on twitter told me it slowed them down yeah so i think it's just all about how neurodivergent you are from whatever the midline is and and whether it helps you or not it kind of depends on where you land there, but maybe Kendall does have a minute ago about parasite and subtitles, how cool would it be if you could make your subtitles, your movie subtitles? Oh, hell yeah. I bet I could get through. In fact, they'd probably be like irritated. They're taking so long to say the next sentence. I was going to say, you could read the line and then look up and see the person actually say it. Yeah. But I don't know. It's just, to me, it was a revelation to others. I'm sure they've

heard of this, but I'd never heard of this and it blew my effing mind. It's really sad. I wish it worked with a, it doesn't work with docs. This plugin doesn't work with docs or anything like Google Docs. I wish it did because I think cool on it. Oh gosh. Yeah. Maybe, uh, maybe soon. Maybe soon. I was going to say it almost looks like, um, like the first syllable, but in a lot of things like, uh, because assault is split at the thing, felony facing. But then you get to charges and it's just chaot urges instead of charges. I think it depends. So there is some science to it where they they depending on total number of syllables and also the shortness or length of the word longer the word the more bolds shorter obviously less so like the word new

is just going to have n yeah and uh but video so after has the first two letters video same same number of characters has only the v oh just the v weird it looks like it yeah so maybe there's some there's probably some method to the madness there i don't i don't know what it is but um it's I just, I don't know what I Freaking, I'm a middle-aged ass old man and I and I feel like I found a thing that probably existed for years

and I didn't know about it. It's just rad. Yeah. So anyway. No, that's cool. I want, I want this in more places in my life where it's easy to use

and nothing I have to pay for. Like, here's what I can see. I get that the Safari plug-in. I plunk down, you know, maybe 10 bucks or something for half a year. and then Safari announces in their next version now includes bionic reading as an option in a reader view. Yeah, it does feel like a thing that may be coming in that regard.

I don't know. Because it's not like a, I guess it's an accessibility feature, sort of, right? Yeah, kind of. Just didn't know you needed it. Yeah, ADHD, I mean, if it's, you know, if it's helping with ADHD. And I've trained myself really well on developing some good ADHD skills. Like, I can start playing a Marvel Snap game and then decide I need to go look for probe and Astroneer and before I know it, games over because I forfeited because I completely got distracted

while I was playing Marvel Snap. It's because I think in a lot of ways we both want to do all the stuff at once. We do. I think we're a lot of like that way. I used to be such a good multitasker and I knew when to say, you're carrying three things in your hands already, Brian. you're not going to be able to open the door to put anything away. But that's kind of what I'm doing now, right? It's like, oh, I need to put this away and this way and this way.

And then I get to the place to put them away. It's like, well, my hands are completely full. I can't open the door to put anything away. So how much time did I really say? Exactly. And I want to say this, for those out there suffering from like severe ADHD, maybe you're on medication or in therapy for it and stuff. I am not, this is not making light of that or saying, oh, look at us over here.

We're also, we also, and we're not saying that. Okay. We're just saying, we're just saying this weird thing helps us. That's it. That's all I'm saying. I bet I could be, you know, clinically documented with, with a form of ADHD right now. I know. I'm actually kind of afraid to like going and have someone else. Yeah. Because I think they're going to come back with something. I feel like it. Well, on the way to the doctor, I'd see it Chipotle and I'd get distracted and go have some chips and salsa. Oh, yeah. I'm supposed to go to the ADHD doctor. Shit.

Oh, shoot. I had a point, but that's right. Yes. That's funny. All right. There you go. That's our test. We'll give a couple of movie plugs, Scott. So normally these would be things I'd throw in recommendals, but they're not available for streaming, quote, unquote, for free on the services you pay for. Sure. You have to pay for them on the services you pay for. But we rented two Oscar films, because, you know, Oscars two weeks away.

We're getting close. We're getting down to the nitty-gritty, Scott. Yeah, always. Love it. And we have three Best Picture nominees to start. We still watch, but we took care of two of them this weekend. We watched The Fablemans, which I really want to call Meet the Fablemans. I just really want it to be Meet the Fablemans. I kind of do, too. Every time I hear that name, it does want to come out.

Yeah. Fantastic. Michelle Williams absolutely deserving of her best actress nomination. She is spectacular. Paul Dano always great. Always weird as hell. Always weird and less weird in this. Like, he's more of a just.

your nerdy dad kind of thing. He's almost like a a George McFly that you actually would want to be around. Yeah, no, I understand that. And this is supposed to be apocryphal a little bit but based on Spielberg's growing up, right?

Yeah, I could definitely see that. Here are the two big surprises for me. Small surprise, Seth Rogen, fantastic, and he barely does any Seth Rogenisms. Really? He's like, yeah. He doesn't go, or anything? There's one you get

At one point where he kind of laughed like that, yeah, you can do, yeah, you're going to do this? It does his like gasp laugh thing. All right. Here's the huge surprise. Freaking David Lynch turning out, I think, the whole performance of the movie, and I won't say who he's playing. David Lynch, the director? David Lynch, the director.

What the frick? And he's fantastic. It's the best, one of my favorite scenes of the whole film. I wouldn't have guessed he was in that. All right. That's good to know. Second recommendation, Triangle of Sadness. Both of these, by the way, available for rent on all your various platforms,

your Amazon's, your Apple TVs, or whatever, is for $5 or less. Triangle of Sadness, now, as you remember, Scott, this is the movie that the trailer thumbnail is the woman throwing up, a freeze frame of a woman throwing up. Yep, it looks like gold or something. It looks like gold. It's just well shot. It's just beautifully lit. But this movie, I think, like, I can't think of a better combination than this.

This movie is a combination of White Lotus meets the menu meets, oh, I had a third one in this. What was it going to be? Oh, don't look up. Oh, wow. Okay. But primarily those, primarily those first two. Yeah, yeah. The middle, I wouldn't even say the middle, but there's, well, yeah, the middle.

Well, yeah, the middle 15 minutes, which contains the scene that is showcased on that freeze frame, is some of the most hilariously disgusting movie magic that I've ever seen. And I kind of feel, I kind of want to look up and see if somehow the director got these people to really throw up. Because, you know how you can, there's a movie throw up where it's like, all right, well, That character clearly has something in his mouth, and he's just going, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's the other kind that's the, like, the S&L style throw up, which is they've got a, you know, you only see them from the side. They've got a hose.

And they just open their mouth and like a whole stream of vomit comes out. Yeah. This one doesn't seem to have either of those techniques because one, one person you clearly see throw up. Looks like their mouth, their mouth is wide open. Everything is falling out. And then they heave up more. Oh, man. maybe they did

I don't know maybe they did I have no idea sorry if you're sorry if you're having breakfast right now however so so that said um the movie before that scene and the movie after that scene are almost two completely different movies and they are and they're it's so so good we

loved it not not uh I still think banshees vin Sharon is my personal pick to win we haven't seen women talking um which is the last one

in the list that we need to see. It's not streaming, not renting, but I think we can still go to the theaters and see it. And you'll see that before you're done. Oh, we'll definitely see it. Even if we, you know, we'll go to the theater and see it because we don't have a problem. We don't have, we don't have horrible theaters near us.

We just have the occasional horrible person that sits next to us. Supposedly a brand new theater just opened for me, just north or just south of me that's supposed to be really nice. So Kim and I are actually going to check it out, yeah. What, um, is it independent or what, uh, I think it's, uh, regal or who are the ones with the cat, the dancing? Cinemark. Cinemark.

Yeah, it's Cinemark. Yeah, it's fine, you know. Yeah, Cinemark's good. Brand new. It's supposed to be real clean, run nicely. Got to be better than what we went to last time, so. God, I would think, uh, it would be hard not to, it would be hard to be worse. Oh, I found a, sounds of it.

This is crazy. I found a clip from that triangle movie. Um, let's, let's, let's hear it real quick. Oh, weird. Yeah, it's right there, yeah. Oh, yeah, I remember that scene. Yeah, that was a big one, right? Why does it say?

Oh, I'm sci-fi says I can rent women talking. It's 20 bucks probably right now. Oh, you can rent a woman and have her do whatever you want. Talk is fine. Oh, you mean the movie. Oh. Well done, sir. Well, well, plead.

I get it now. All right. Yeah, you should rent that then. Tell us what you think of that. I like these updates on the Oscar. Look at that. $6.99 to rent. So I think we'll just do that.

Yeah, do that. Those are women talking. It's like some heavy, heavy stuff. Yeah. From what I know about women talking. I don't know anything about that movie. Like zero. I should probably.

When I, I think when I first heard the name, I got it confused with the movie that was based on the Harvey Weinstein thing, which is, I think, called She Said. Is that right? Oh, uh, the one with Furiosa in it and, uh, all those people? No, no, no, no. You're thinking of

bombshell. Oh, bomb, right, the Fox News the Fox guy thing, yeah. Yeah, no, she said is, yeah, so she said the Weinstein, that one's got Ashley Judd and Zoe Kazan and Carrie Mulligan and. Was that old? Patricia Clarkson. No, came out last year. I don't remember that at all.

How do I miss these things? Biographical drama film directed by Maria Schrader and written by Rebecca Linkowitz, based on the 2019 book of the same title. But, yeah, that one is, that one is boom, right there, a dramatization of the, of the whole Weinstein thing with some of the people involved. Ashley Judd, for example. Yeah, she was, she was, yeah, she kind of went away for a few years because she got blacklisted by him.

He's a douchebag. Who plays him? Who's the poor sucker that had to play Weinstein? I was just looking at a poor guy named Mike Houston, who was in, um, the drowning, the happy house, deliver us from evil, blood ties. um oh um you know him have you seen in stuff because i look at these movies and i'll think oh he was in orange is the new black yeah i remember that but it's specifically oh jessica jones something older pete something older hold on here i know he's in red dead let's see uh does a lot of voice stuff wasn't he in uh the sports night show am i thinking of the wrong guy um i think i am i am well hell i don't know that face is so familiar it's going to bug me oh he's a local uh colorado guy

oh well hey making good by being a horrible man born and raced in colorado went to the university of colorado and boulder boardwalk empire he was in maybe that's what you're thinking of i might be thinking of that yeah i don't remember this movie coming out i would i would watch this yeah why wouldn't i watch this why wouldn't you watch that i'm going to watch this it's almost a documentary yeah that's probably streaming somewhere all right Sure, yes. I got a lot of old movies to watch. As we know.

So why are you watching the same ones over and over, Scott? I don't know. Why are you doing it? I don't know. I got a bunch of dwarves singing Misty Mountain or whatever in the kitchen when I should be watching something new. All right. I'm currently streaming on Peacock, by the way. Oh, Peacock.

Cool. I'm watching something on Peacock. Or no, I just watched something on Peacock that will be my recommendal this week. I know what that is. Yes. Let's say it involves robots. That's all I'll say about that. I will say this.

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People against the, that's PETA, P-A-E-T. Or potato. People against the ethical treatment of animals. There you go, potato, yep. Ah, those potato guys. PETA is offering to pay for a new Oscar Meyer Wiener Mobile, only if it becomes vegan. So they got the money.

They're just like, hey, Oscar Meyer, you got the- curious as to how they think this will work. I agree. Following reports that Oscar Meyer Wienermobile's catalytic converter was stolen is the traveling one. Oh, that sucks. That's stolen here, wasn't it? We need to start making cars without catalytic converters, Scott. That's the problem.

That's your problem right there. Ain't got no gas in it. Let's see. PETA just came up with the solution they say will benefit all involved. PETA has offered to pay for a replacement with one very specific condition that the Wiener well that must become vegan. I'm guessing Oscar Myers got the money to go ahead and replace it

themselves. But what do you mean? replace it. It's like what the vehicle must be made without any animal parts. So no leather seats, obviously. What other parts? I don't know. It's not like they hand out hot dogs. You don't go there and they hand out hot dogs.

Well, see, that's the question. Do they mean that the entire dog can now has to look like tofu or something? Because it's a big dog, you know, it's a big wiener. So it's just a little paint job to make it look paler? I don't know. It's really weird.

Yeah. I don't understand it. So they sent a letter to Kraft Hines to their president. That's the company who owns it. Offering to cover the cost of the company converts to a vegan hot dog mobile, mobile, rather. PETA is willing to cover the cost. This is what they said in their letter of the replacement part and the maintenance of the vehicle for one year.

If you convert it into a not dogmobile or something, something similar with the rising demand of a hot dog mobile it's a not dog mobile exactly it'll run on vegan cheese um say with the rising demand of vegan hot dogs and following last year's report about the potential of oscar meyer uh not hot dogs uh now is the perfect time to put the brakes on the old idea and make a shift said the letter well they're not going to do that yeah i don't understand i really just don't understand what they really want tell me what you you really, really want, Peter. I had a hot dog this weekend and it was full of meat.

It didn't have any vegan aspects to it. I'm not proud of it. Oscar Meyer making vegan hot dogs totally makes sense. They should say it like that. Please, you know, we'll pay for your Oscar Meyer Wieneromobile if you make a vegan hot dog, but not if you make the Wienermobile vegan. Yeah, who cares if the Wienermobile is vegan? It's really just, all right, we'll replace the leather seats with pleather. Good.

Thanks. That is weird. Someone in the chat asks, is Scott in a weird position right now, or is just him? No, it is. My camera's aft, and I can't reach it from here, so I've got to fix it. Let's say it's a long story. TMS is going to look like I'm a little bit to the right today. I mean, oh, well, okay, gotcha.

You know what I'm saying? I've got a lot of space over here. Yeah. It's kind of lame. I'll figure to fix it. Where are we here? Oh, let's move on to this story. The Mexican president, current Mexican president,

another world leader who's just a little out of whack he posted a photo of what he claims as an elf that seems normal I'll get to pull this up so people can see it because it's pretty stupid the hobbits to Eisengard I know the thing is I know like in Mexican culture it's the you know the chupacabras and all that

they got all kinds of fun stuff so this is kind of like that but he showed this photo Oh, God. Yeah, and he says that an elf in a tree. My guess is it's not. But anyway, he posted his photo on social media accounts Saturday, showing what he says appeared to be a mythological woodland spirit similar to an elf. This is President Andreas Manuel Lopez Abrador.

Yes. Did not seem to be joking when he posted the photo of an al-Ux or Luxe. I don't know how you say it. Alux-A-LUx-Sah, which is in May. in Mayan tradition is a mischievous woodland spirit. Lopez-Albador wrote in the photo was taken three days ago by an engineer. It appears to be an aluxa.

Adding everything is mystical. It's Deadpool with a blonde wig. I can clearly tell just by looking at it. Yeah, my guess is it's like that Mars face. You just get a slightly different angle or light thing. And it's like, oh, well, shit, it's like the branch is weird and there's like pine cone in there. Humans, man.

We see stuff. Our pattern brain. go, oh, I see a thing. And then we, and either, either you are a rational human being who investigates further and finds out, oh, no, it's just the way the light was hitting it. Or you're a psycho weirdo and you start saying it's real and spreading it all over the place. Which one will you be? Yeah, I will be, well, yeah, I'll be, I'll be the former.

I think that's the choice, right? I'm going to be the former. I'll be the former. You and I'll be the former. Everyone else can be the latter. Also, I know what an elf looks like, and that's no elf. That's clearly a demon. Yeah, if that showed up at Helms Deep and said, we're here to help, I would have been like, nope, go away.

No, thanks. Yeah, I'm good. Appreciate, appreciate the offer. Go back to the hellhole from which you spawn. You shall not pass. Yeah, King of Rohan, I'd be like, look, I had worm tongue spitting in my ear for three years while I turned green. Get out of here. Just finished the Hobbit, the third Hobbit movie last night.

Oh, okay, so give me the overall on the experience. Did you enjoy the rewatch? than you thought or as much as you thought. I enjoyed the Hobbit rewatch more than I did the first time. This is the first time I've seen all three movies back to back with the Hobbit. Lord of the Rings is still an A trilogy for me and Hobbit's a maybe a B minus. I think that's fair. I think I would have probably given it a C or C minus back when I first watched it.

But there's too much of the Orlando Burr, Bloom doing things, CGI things that Orlando Bloom should not be able to. Or Legolas. Let's just call Legolas should not be able to do it. Legolas doing freaking gravity-defying, physics bending bullshit. Yeah. It doesn't need to do any of it.

Like, I know that it was cool that he slid down that elephant in the first one or second one, third one, whatever it was, where he took down the whole thing by himself. That one shot, that was fine. Leave it by itself and never do it again. Don't keep doing it. They can do four things like that in each of the Hobbit movies just feels unnecessary. Like, oh, let's see. I know if I steer this ogre with a sword in its head at this building,

I can knock the building down to create a bridge where I can go and save the other elf. Yeah, it's just a little too Rube Goldberg device. It really is. I don't know why the choice to do those things. That, to me, always flummocks to me a little bit. But, yeah, running up those falling bricks. Oh, my gosh, dude. Yeah, that same scene.

That's Chewbacca doing Tarzan for me. That's Prince of Persia is what that is. Well, yeah, for sure. This video gamey stuff. It's really a bummer because the first trilogy felt so much more grounded. Even with fantastical elements, there was a grounding in it. And this just didn't have that. And I love Martin Freeman, but I feel like he makes a slightly unlikable Bilbo.

Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't live up to the, what was his name? name? Ash from Alien. Can I think he was name? Yeah. Oh, yes. Ian Holm. Yeah. Ian Holm. That guy. He was great. Yeah. Missed that dude. Uh, anyway, Mexican president. Super into this stuff. Not an elf. Next. Nope. It's not an elf. Moving on. How about this one? Nutrition brand on the hunt for the world's first Pumelier, which I think is how you would say it. Pumelier. Pumelier. I guess you'd say Pumelier.

What are the wine ones called or food ones? Somali is a wine. Yep, the one that comes and recommends the wine for the food you're eating. No, this is how you know, this is a story that was written over the Atlantic because their job is to smell feces for 1,500 pounds, but they spell feces, F-A-E-C-E-C-E-S. Yeah, that's a good way. I like that, like stealing little A-in-the-F-E-E-N-E-E-N-E-E-E-N-E-E-C-E. Yeah, I like that little bit of A-N-E-N-E-E-N-E-E-C-E. Company looking for the world's first pooh-Millie, I don't say it right, to say right, to smell feces for money, or fa feces. Uh, let's see. Uh, nutrition brand field complete will pay aspiring, uh, I'm going to say the word

again, pooh smellers, 1500 as they train in all aspects of digestive health and nutrition. They also look to develop an expert in all things, uh, fecal as, uh, the sights and smells of feces can reveal a lot about a person's overall health and well-being. I mean, they, they train, I mean, if you're a, um, gastroenterologist, I think is the term. Yeah, yeah. They know a lot about that weirdness, right? Yeah, I'm fine, pooping in a box and sending it to Coligard.

Really, I mean, we don't need... You get to call this guy over and say, all right, read my future. I just took a dumb. Yeah, you're going to... Tell me how long I've got. Yeah, well, from my nose, I believe, 20 years maximum. Oh, you had a crunch rep supreme. I'd like to tell that.

Yes, that'll trim two years off your lifespan. every one of those you eat. Anyway, it just seems like a weird thing. And I'm all for the science around it is important. We're human beings. It's part of our cycles. We have to, you know, to how we determine a lot of health and wellness and all that.

I get it. But you're going to have to pay me more than $1,500 to smell somebody. And if you were the person on the other end of this, would you trust someone who's like looking and smelling your poop to determine your health or somebody with, I don't know, a microscope and a lab coat? What if he had a microscope, a lab coat, and he was sniffing your poop? Well, now, why would you need the microscope of me sniffing it? No, that's true.

You wouldn't need it, would you? It would just give us a feeling of, oh, he's a doctor. Oh, I brought a microscope. I'm not going to use it. Go ahead and... Like they're doing commercials where the guy says, I'm not a real doctor, but I play one on TV, and he's wearing a white coat and all. that's like that just to put us all at ease you know by the way uh DJ Stangle in the

chat posted the color guard um SNL skit from this last weekend with Woody Harrelson and was it good it was it was one of the best moments of a pretty good uh first half of SNL all right people are all mad at Woody for his vaccine yes yeah yeah it Woody why you got to be like Woody, come on. Keep it to talking about pot. We know you love the pot. Talk about the pot. Oh, he does like the pot, right? He's in the pot. He does like the pot. Yeah. Well, the pot is, uh, it's available now to him in a, in a free form. He can just get the pot now. It is. Yes. Let's move on to this story, uh, to finish things out. A Florida bill currently in the legislature, uh, would ban dogs from sticking heads out of car windows. Oh. I guess this is, uh, a thing.

tuck in everybody puns a plenty come yeah get ready for this new york post dot com wrote the following everything's just so doggone political oh going for the double yeah that makes me want to eat glass makes me want to poo and make somebody smell it yeah make somebody tell me what's wrong with me uh the state bill uh sorry the state bill filed in florida last week could make it illegal for dogs to stick their heads out of moving car windows uh the the past time for man's best friend I would say that's sometimes true. My dogs don't really do it, though. They're not into it.

The unnamed bill introduced by Democratic State Senator Lauren Book. Let's see, book. Includes several provisions that would ensure the safety of the canines when inside the moving vehicle. I mean, is this a problem? Are dogs like jumping out and stuff or whacking their heads on? I don't know. That's what I'd be worried about, right? It's like you go by a semi with one of those extended mirrors or something or who knows what.

Uh, that's the question. Where, where is this, what's causing the need for this bill? Here's what she, here's what she says. And I thought it would be like, oh, a dog whacked its head on somebody's rearview mirror driving too fast past it or one jumped out in the middle of freeway and died or something. But no, here's what they say. Says, although most dogs love to stick their heads out of windows, the wind can seriously irritate their mucous membranes and blow pieces of grit or other debris into their eyes. Pets should also, could be seriously injured by objects as you drive down the road. So it's more, it's, I guess it's more nuanced, as often things are.

But I thought Florida was all about freedom, man. You guys, I thought it was, you can't tell me what to do. And then they're like, no, we can on stuff we want to tell you what to do. We can tell you what to do. If letting your dog stick his head out the window is wrong, then I guess you just better put me in jail. I won't you do. I guess I'm an outlaw. I guess I'll say this.

And to our, you know, we have, I've many. friends who are responsible gun owners um dogs yeah like stick their heads out but uh but i don't understand when you've got like really lax gun safety laws but really tight dog safety laws i love dogs sure i like people too though and i'm just saying maybe they should also be you know a little less crazy with that stuff i'd say let's hand out uh free uh 50s looking, 50s-era-looking pilot goggles and make them for dogs and, uh, and problem solved. I'm in. Let's do it. Because I love looking at a dog wearing little airplane pilot goggles.

I do too, unless it's from the rear and I have to see their anus. Moving on. Hey, we're going to take a break. When we come back, it's a birthday boy Bill, uh, not Bill, sorry, I put this in the wrong place. It's birthday boy Bobby. I got to put it down here. There we go. This one is Bill's not Bill's birthday. Bill will be here. We're going to talk about making things. We also got a question from the audience for him. And then birthday boy, Bobby, will be here,

where we also have a couple of texts and a phone call for Bobby. People are starting to write in about the segments. That's either because they're being very controversial or they just like what you're saying. I don't know. You have to come back and find out after this break where Brian will play a song. I'm going to play a song. Remember an Andy Sandberg character from years back called Shireani?

Rihanna would sing along with them. Vagely. It was like an old S&L bit and Shairani would barely talk. They'd rob a bank and you'd think it might like this be this whole rap thing. Take it, Shai Rani. And they pee his pants or something. Kind of vaguely have a memory of that, but not much of one. Well, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Rising Swedish Pop Act, Shai Martin.

She's got a brand new single called Late Night Thought. I'm playing it for you right now. She is, she's got a animated video. And this song, kind of a little, a little Billy Elishy, a little Taylor Swifty. Yeah. Kind of dig it. A little twee pop. Anyway, the folks from BBC Radio One love it.

And Spotify loves it, including they've added it to their fresh and chill and indie pop playlists. Here is Shy Martin in the song, Late Night Thoughts. Watching the seat and melt into my floor Is it real, is it just in my head? All this late my thoughts I hear the moon gossip from my people watch About me about us angled up in my late my thoughts Stuck in my late-night thoughts

Stuck in my late-night thoughts Feeling my body sink into your arms I'm waving and I driftin' away till I hit the shore I can see stars, I can see stars when you're talking Is it real, is it just in my way? Is it just in my head All this late night Stuck in my

Late night thoughts Crash down in Into your eyes Stuck in my Late my thoughts Is it real Is it just in my head You're a day dream

Oh I can't get In the coffee I drink and strangers I'm passing by A fantasy that's messing with my decisions It's okay, I don't mind if you stay in my late night Stuck in my late night thoughts Crushed in into your eyes It's stuck in my late, my thoughts. It's a real, is it just in my head?

It's a heartwarming story, but it's just not believable, which is why I give E.T. 1⁄2 stars. I'm okay with the horny fridge. The morning stream. If he'd hired smarter guys, none of this would have happened. And we returned. Who was that one more time, please? Sure. That was the performer Shy Martin and her brand new song, Late Night Thoughts.

shy martin i like that name i don't know why shy martin i know just rolls off the tongue it's nice yeah yeah so i wonder what a real name is because i'm guessing shy is like a a shortening of her uh like a shy uh she could be well who knows could be a nickname yeah no just her name is shy it could be like what we learned about scoots mcnary over the weekend that was weird right i just thought i was assumed it was uh short for scott like it was like a play on the scott but no just because he scooted his butt on the floor yeah he's like one of those kids that didn't crawl first he butt scooted and so they called them scoots and that they just stuck for his entire freaking life it's amazing what a great actor though um all right we're gonna we're gonna get this

going here with bill uh pretty sure by the way i i corr asked who gave ete one and a half stars Well, that's Perd Happley from Parks and Rec. Yeah, that's Purd Happley, guys. Are you not familiar with Parks and Recreation? Because it's fantastic. Yeah. That'd be a fun thing to rewatch. No, Scott, you got to watch New Things.

Yeah, new things, Scott. Come on. New things. Don't think about old things. You did watch a couple new things, I guess. Yeah, that's true. I have new things actually kind of stacked for recommendals, maybe too many. I feel like you right now. I got a lot.

Yeah, I know. It's like a bunch of planes all circling the airport, and I'm waving them in one at a time. All right, all right. Documentary. Come on in. Yeah. We just need one of those weeks where Nicole's, oh, I'm traveling. And Randy's like, oh, my Internet's down. And then you and I'll just plow through it all right. All right. Let's do this. Your bat caves open there, Bill. Bill Durand joining us from Punish Props.com. He is always here on Tuesdays talking about the world of creative making and building and prop making and whatnot.

And he's here today. Once again, hi, Bill. Welcome back. Hello. Good to be here. I started a fresh run of, uh, factorio and I thought of you when I Oh yeah I think that's I've got four probes left to Discover an Astroneer and then I think

I'm done with Astroneer and I'm going to switch over to to Factorio Well there's Factorio and then there's Satisfactory both are excellent Oh Satisfactory is a big 3D first person thing Factorio is basically that game but in like a 2D top down kind of thing

And they're both really good Really good games Yeah I've played them both Um, satisfactory is more my jam, the 3D thing. Yeah. But, uh, factor, factorial, still scratches that same it. There's a good itch to scratch. The other one I quite like is, um, a mix of 3D and 2D.

The, the, what's it called? It's, um, it's very localized. The, the, the, the translation is terrible on some of the audio. It's like, make a city to have your guy build. And it's just weird. But I can't think of the name. Someone in the chat will know this. It's the one where you,

You roll around with the robot and do it. It's great. It's a very good game. Anyway, I can't remember. Oh, what do you call it when you put a big skeleton around a planet? What's that called? Dyson sphere. Dyson sphere.

It's called Dyson Sphere Program is the name of the thing. That's right. That's the game. And it has the most delightfully bad translations. You got to play it just for that. Anyway, Bill, I want to start things today with a quick email I got that was about you. All right. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Well, it's a text. It was my twin brother, I swear. He took a moment out of class and sent this. This was a text, but no name was attached. So whoever this was, apologies for not having your name. But here it is. You mentioned the Great Pottery Throwdown last week.

I was once able to see a couple of seasons of the Great British Sewing Bee on YouTube before it got taken down. And I loved it. Got taken down? Why was that? Oh, because it wasn't allowed to be streaming there. Harsh language. Yeah, violence, I guess. Right. Exactly. It says no streaming services have picked it up even though I think they're about to do, or they're at about seven seasons. Comments on the internet theorize that there's isn't interest in making clothing in the U.S., but I don't think that holds up. Most of us aren't potters either, and HBO carries that. Any suggestions on how to get a streaming service to carry the sewing bee? So obviously you're not going to know that. But you'd love this stuff and you'd agree that, you know, sewing or whatever it is, competition stuff is.

as in, especially this kinder, gentler sort of approach. Yeah, wholesome competition. Yeah. I was watching, I was actually watching the pottery throwdown when you texted this to me last night, because I am into that stuff. Yep. So, I believe it's the same production company that does the bake-off. It's definitely that's the same vibe.

Yeah. And we are a season behind on HBO Max, where they're streaming the pottery throwdown. Yeah. There is another season out. But we can't watch it here in the States yet. Oh, they did this for a bit with Bakeoff where you couldn't, the newest thing was in Britain only and you had to wait. But now they do the week-to-week thing over there. That'd be nice if they did that with the pottery deal.

Sure. So the only way I can tell to just get to watch that stuff if you want is with a VPN. And there are a million different VPNs now. So pick your favorite. So you just trick the service into thinking. thinking you're from the UK and that'll let you stream UK streaming stuff. Nice. However, just because a production company or a studio or whatever isn't streaming this show

that you want them to stream doesn't mean you're completely helpless. The best things you can do as an individual is just talk about the show a lot. Find other people that like the show. Talk about it a lot on social media. And believe it or not, writing a letter can be super powerful or starting a letter writing campaign and I'm not talking about emails or tweets I'm talking about writing a physical letter and mailing it to the people who have the power to do it I remember for this one would you like throw in a little clump of clay like they did with what was the one where they had to send in

the peanuts was that ever would or something where like the they included a peanut because it was so referential to the show or something really yeah you know about that yeah I remember it didn't do anything obviously but way back when angel got canceled a buddy of mine was like yeah wrote him a letter to tell him I was really upset about it. Yeah. And getting a physical piece of bail that says something like that is a lot more impactful than an email. That's unfortunate, though. Did he feel like he just had to like, well, fine, I'll watch Bones now since he's here now and I can't watch Angel anymore.

And for him, it meant he did, he did everything he could. Like, he had to do that thing to feel better about it. And it obviously did not get the show renewed. but it's not to say that that stuff is completely powerless. Jay Funkastic in our chat says he did the exact same thing about Angel. He sent a letter. That's amazing. Yeah.

It's awesome. Yeah. So the other thing you can do is to support independent sewing content. It may not mean you're going to get that sewing show, but there are lots of people making their own sewing shows on YouTube or live streaming sewing that may have the same vibe that you want. And if you find those things, please give them money. Please support them.

yeah uh so yeah once again independent creators support the guy that you want to see support what yeah exactly support the stuff you want and sometimes that means you gotta i don't know you got to i don't know you got to be down in the dregs for a bit it's okay just because hbio doesn't carry it doesn't mean it's not worthy so no uh awesome bill well what else did you bring with us today what do you what do you get what do you do i figured i'd keep the sewing train rolling and talk a bit about sewing. It's something I know a little bit about. Nice. Obviously, sewing is really good for cosplay.

That's how I've mostly used it, but it's also a really great skill for life in general. I was fortunate growing up my mom taught me how to sew. She had this cool old singer sewing machine that I learned how to do everything on.

We also had a home act class that just had a section on sewing, where we did hand sewing and machine sewing. Did you guys have a a sewing Homek class in high school or middle school? I totally did and I learned how to sew and I promptly forgot it after Homek ended. Yeah, there you go. My daughter sews all the time.

In fact, she is, was it this weekend or next weekend? I can't remember when she did it or if she's still doing it. But her and her friends are all doing like a big sewing party. That's all they're going to do. Like a sewing circle? Yeah, like a sewing circle except less old ladyish, you know. They're all like in their early 20s and they're all going to just watch. So here's the plan.

they're going to get sushi they're going to watch anime and they're going to sew oh now we're talking yeah it is kind of awesome it is kind of awesome it makes me want a simpler life yeah my schedule for today i've changed my mind that's what i want to do today yeah it sounds all right um so i uh i had the home at class my mom taught me and mostly i made Halloween costumes um but it's also super useful for making repairs to garments which is something i do all the time uh i'll also So hemming is something I use. So to make a sleeve or a pant leg slightly shorter, that's something else I end up doing a lot.

I do some of that myself, actually. I usually bundle it with hawing. Yes. Hemming and hawing, yeah. Yeah. Wait, hemming, so like hems are like, um, what is the bottom of your pants? Like cuffing.

Oh, okay. You know what? I'm literally touching the hem of my pant, my pant leg while I'm asking what a, of your garment? Yeah, well, I'm asking what hems are, and I'm going, I'm actually fingering my hem right now. That's funny. You know what, what are Hemsworth? Oh, two really bulked up.

I'll see, everybody. Good looking bulked up, two brothers, and then a really shubby one that's a different job. I'm going to go right for the New York Post. I'll see you all later. See you later. Yeah. That's your new career. So, yeah, so having all the time.

And then I also use sewing to make custom covers and bags for my tools and equipment. which is super super useful making making custom things is really where it's really uh where it shines yeah do you like leather bags like uh like i don't know like a leather tool bag or are you working with i have a actually i have one i made out of sailcloth that's really cool yeah and then i have another one made out of i have like a waxed canvas that's really good that i made for holding all of my um i have a telescope but it's got a bunch of extra stuff so that goes into a custom bag i made When you say sailcloth, like from a wind sail, right? Is that what you mean?

Yeah, like a sailboat. So I asked my dad to part with one of his old sails. He has a couple of sailboats and many old sails. It's like a really tough nylon, like a plasticy material. And it's practically indestructible. So I made a small handbag for like drawing tools and stuff. Nice. Very cool.

That's cool. Yeah. You can do hand sewing, which is a great place to start. all you need is a needle and thread and some fabric, maybe some scissors. But then to really kick it up a notch, a sewing machine will really sort of send you into the stratosphere with what you can do.

Up your game, basically. That's right. And you can get a good, cheap one used on Craigslist. I checked the Craigslist here. There are hundreds of sewing machines. You can get for a song. And I will say just... Get a singer for a song.

That's right. The one thing I recommend with a sewing machine, learn the parts and learn how to maintain and clean it. Lubricate your machine. There's a lot of moving parts in there. So learning how to do that will extend its life dramatically, and it will make your experience with the machine a lot better. It'll last a long time, too.

I think my daughter's still using my grandmother's old sewing machine. Those old ones, like I said, my mom's old singer. I have a friend who is a tailor by trade, and she's also a bit of a nut about sewing machine. She has dozens and dozens of them. She repairs them. She buys old, like, old industrial machines. And they need a little work, but they all still work.

They're, you know, 60 or 70 years old and all cast iron parts. It's really heavy and awesome. Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. Yep, they made them like trucks back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, I don't know so much.

Just as heavy, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Having to lug that table with the built-in singer machine in it. Holy cow. Yeah. Kim's mom had one that had like bicycle wheel on it that was all

manually. You brought that one by hand, right? Yeah, so you just like, I don't know if you'd pedal it or use your arm or what you did, but it was no electricity. It was just like a, it's some old ancient artifact from her great, great-grandmother or something, but I don't know where that ended up. That's somewhere, maybe in this

house even, I don't know. Should eBay it. Anyway, that's awesome. Yeah, go sew some stuff, you guys. Do you have it like a favorite? Do you YouTuber that does like, I don't know, good sewing routines and that's what I don't, I don't follow sewing people on YouTube, but my friend Kathy over at God Save the Queen Fashions is the person I go to for that stuff. She's on Instagram, GSTQ fashion, I think, is what she goes by. Just love this idea that there's like a big channel of just nothing but sewing.

I bet there are, too. I haven't even looked. Honestly, sewing is. one of the most frustrating things for me so I don't I don't appreciate or I don't I don't approach it with a lot of gusto yeah I just kind of do it when I have to and I know enough to get by that's good though when the zombies come you're going to be useful I'm going to be worthless I'm going to be um you know what I'm going to be frank you're going to be uh what was this name who did Nick Offerman playing the third episode of Last of Us you're that you're that guy you're resourceful yeah you got stuff you got Things. Bill? Okay, Bill. You can run the, there's going to be a foot pedal machine that you run to power my sewing machine. So we'll need you. Okay. All right. I'm there. But I'll make things look pretty in our fake, homoerotic story that we're making about me and Bill. All right. Carter's in the chat. Carter, you're still using my grandmother's thing, right? I hope I didn't tell that story wrong. I think that's what she's using. Anyway, well, that's great. Sew your life away. Everybody.

buddy and lots of resources out there go check it out and make something cool that's right so much reap even practice on like oh this button fell off or i guess you don't have to do that with the sewing machine but you know like little projects around the house your pants need a little hemming as we said uh do do that and don't think you probably you probably have a small sewing kit in your house somewhere yeah like a small repair kit you've stolen from a hotel that's right that's true that's true and you don't have to um you don't have to you know there let me just talk to a few masculine men listening, okay? Listen to me right now.

You are all very manly men. It's okay if you sew once in a while. It's okay. All right? It's fine. Learn a skill that you think is your mom's. And you'll find out that it can be yours as well. Sewing is a real turn on.

That's right. By the way, fabric was my, that was my, when I was dancing on stage in Miami, that's the name I went by. Hey, Bill. Tell us what you brought as a bone, link today because I know you got one. Sure.

The folks over at Corridor Digital have put out a new video. They made a short film that's called Anime Rock Paper Scissors. And what's amazing about it is the way they made it. It looks like a hand animated movie or short film, but it was all done with video. And they use a bunch of different processes to convert that video into what looks like hand-drawn anime frames. It's really impressive. So it's like, oh, some of this is.

Yeah, a mirror darkly and that road, but probably different than rotoscoping, right? They're doing it. Yeah, they did it with the stable diffusion and a bunch of other stuff to sort of pony in on a, I can see some AI business going on in here. Yeah. I guess the stable diffusion, but this is, wow, look at that.

That looks really good. Okay, I got to watch this. Yeah, so they put out the short film, And they also put out a behind the scenes on how they did it, which I found absolutely fascinating. Even just the way that they, like, layered 2D elements together to get the final look that they were going for is just really impressive. Wow. All right. Check it out.

Corridor crew. Really cool. Up there on the YouTubers. And if you're listening to this after the fact, just go to quicktm.l. And you'll find a link to everything Bobby talked about. That's right. Everything if by just that YouTube channel. Or Bill.

We're Bill, yeah. Did I just do, dang it? Now I did it. You did what I did last week, or two weeks ago. I know. I'm sorry, Bill. That's fine. I feel better now.

I've been called Bobby before, and it won't be the last time. No, it won't be. Can we shuffle everybody around, maybe put Amy on Tuesdays and Bobby on Thursdays? Just to mix it all up, so there's not two Bs on the same day. Well, Bill, it's always a-s-sure that'll solve the problem. That'll fix everything. We love having you on. I hope you have a great week, and all the creativity, may it all be yours.

and we'll see you next time. Bye now. Later. Oh, yeah, he's chin-beard on Twitter. I don't mention Twitter much anymore because it's weird over there. It's weird. I don't like Twitter like I used to like it. I don't, I've not posted to Twitter anything long time.

And the only time I go in there is if somebody messages, like either sends me a direct message or if they mention me and I get a little notification, I'll look to see what they say and I'll be like, like. Yeah, yeah, and then get out. But other than that, I'm pretty much all in. Discord. Yeah, I'm kind of weaned, weaned away. I post there, because I think

I need to, to let people know who are still what's going on, yeah, but I'm not going to read there. I don't want to read it anymore. I do, well, my stream labs automatically post there when I'd go live with a show, so. Yeah. So, you know, there's reasons to be on Twitter. There is that. I just don't think the

conversation's very good anymore. And it's not you guys. The reply tab, I'll go there all the time and see what you guys are saying. That's not it. That's not the problem. For sure. But I don't want to be on the public hose anymore. I'm done. I've had it.

Yeah. Okay. What is the deal now? Oh, Bobby. That's what? What kind of a deal? And I was here, see, it's weird, too, because I have to, when I add Bill to this call, it's punish props. When I add Bobby, it's Bobby.

Bobby Franks. But then I get, oh, just Bobby. But I always search for Bill. I don't know. This world is weird. Let's do some science. Yes. Science.

Science. Yes. Yeah, that's right. You heard me. Science with Bobby Frankenberger. He was once many other dead burgers, but they put all those burgers together and made a Frankenburger out of it. And now it's a living, breathing, Frankenburger burger. It was an impossible burger, and there was a bison burger. And now we got Frankenberger. Hey, Bobby. It's actually Frankenberger's burger. There you go. Frankenberg's burger. Frankenberger. Right. That's true. Right. Oh, my Lord. All right. Well, now I don't even know what to think. It's good to have you here, Bobby, of course, and we'd like to celebrate this early. Let's party. It's Bobby's birthday.

Woo! Yay! Happy birthday, buddy. Happy birthday, man. Thanks. Don't worry. One whole segment, we'll call you Bobby. 60's the new 50.

It'll be fine. No, for real. I hope it's a good day. You get cool things and your kids and your wife and everybody shower you with gifts. all that make you fancy feasts and that sort of thing we don't usually celebrate our birthdays on our birthday around here because what do you do can you coagulate so everybody likes to be around for them but everybody's in like school or work or all this kind of stuff so do you like but do you like you know do you hold them all and then you say all right we're having the the the summer

birthdays and it's like three months worth of birthday is that sort of thing or no no but but um my wife's family had down in um where they're all, the whole extended family all lives in the city together. We got the hell out of Dodge, but they all live there, and they do that. They'll do where it's like, oh, we're going to have a big party in February for all the February birthdays or something like that. It's like per month there. Yeah, we do the same thing. My mom's always running it, but July is the big one.

We got like 14 birthdays in July or something, including me. Yeah, no, we give everybody their own individual day and the Frank. Frankenberger house, because we, it's kind of like, birthdays are like a holiday, you know, like Christmas or Thanksgiving or whatever other holiday. And it's, it's just for you. Yeah. And yours is like Christmas because you look like Jesus. So that's why. Yeah.

Anyway, well, hey, I got a couple of, I got a couple of quick things for you. And I don't know why you got so much damn feedback this week, but I'm going to read these. People love Bobby. Yep. There's two texts and one phone call, all right? So I'm going to rip through it. Great, awesome. First one says, hey, I have a Bobby question for tomorrow.

Would you be willing to run some Shadow Run 5E for TMS Vegas? I don't know if he's serious about this, but what would that take for you to run? Well, it would take, it would take everybody has to study a lot and has to have like eight hours. That game is huge and beefy and lots of rules. Yeah, it's a monster. You think it takes a while to learn D&D. It takes at least four times as long to learn Shatterun. Really?

Oh, my gosh. Shatteron is well known for being one of the crunchiest rule systems. There are certainly ones that are crunchier, but Shatteron is up there in that upper tier. Why am I not surprised that our very own Bobby the Math Boy really likes a crunchy deep rules? thing that makes sense to me yeah yeah all right to uh wait for a kids edition shadow run shadow run junior kids edition kind of like kind of like settlers like a kid 10 kids edition yeah now

now that's so the more realistic answer to that would be that if if you have someone running the game that prepares an entire uh what they call them runs in shadow run um if you if you prepare a run to prepare a session from start to finish and you have characters prepared for the people so they don't have to make their characters because in Shatterun it takes longer to make your character than it does to play a game a session um but uh if if you have all that stuff ready and prepared you can you can do one in in four hours whoa that's how long is it the dentist i would much rather be doing that that sounds great yeah so it's just um because they do demos at like places like gencon or other gaming conventions.

So it's just that's how they have to do it is. Everything has to be prepared ahead of time. Here's your character. Here's your stuff. Here's the real quick rules. Don't worry about too much about the rules. Just roll the dice and I'll tell you what happened. Yeah.

Fair enough. That's cool. I'm weirdly more curious now after hearing this. It's a fun game. It's a fun game if you like cyberpunk. Well, here's another email from Luke from Boulder, Colorado. He says, hey, wait, what's wrong with audio hijack? Bobby tossed some shade at it today.

This is like a couple weeks ago. It says, I use it for my not all, not at all popular podcast. I don't know why you had to say that. And I think it does the trick. Would you gents care to nerd out for a second regarding your podcast setup and maybe educate some of us, Luke from Boulder? Let's clarify, the first part of his message should be sung as in, hey, wait. What's wrong with audio hijack? Exactly.

What a loss. He was. So I don't remember what your beef was with hijack in the first place. I don't have a beef with audio hijack. So that was a mischaracterization of what I was saying. I don't remember you having issues with it either. I don't know what the deal was. No, I said I don't use it and I don't like to use it

or things like that. Oh, you don't like virtual routing. Is audio hijack the one for Mac? Yeah, so audio hijack for Mac, it is a Mac thing. They also do loop back. They do Fargo. It's the Rogamiba folks. Rogamiba.

They make amazing apps. But your whole point wasn't, I don't like that app. It's that you don't like, you don't like virtual pathing and routing and stuff. You would much rather have like, here's a mixer. I got hard lines going into this mixer and going out of this mixer. kind of stuff. Right. Yes. Now, I should caveat all that with saying, again, audio hijack is on Mac, and it could be that the user interface for it, like many Mac products, is better. Right. My issue is the PC equivalents, which the big things are the stuff made by VB

audio, like virtual audio cable, voice meter, like voice meter banana or voice meter, potentially. or whatever it is that they have. I've used those things and I did use those things back when I had when I was first starting because hardware solutions are expensive. Yeah, very. And I just, especially with Windows, the OS being how it is and how you have to create, it creates virtual devices in your operating system and virtual audio interfaces that you have to deal with and all this kind of stuff,

the interface was not very intuitive, and every time I got on and had any kind of a problem or wanted to tweak something, I swear I would sit down and it would take me an hour to figure it out. And it was just, it was untenable for me

with the business, speaking of tabletop gaming, the tabletop streaming and podcasting stuff that I was doing, I just couldn't, we were doing so much of it that I could not, it was too hard for me

to have different, because you guys know doing lots of different types of shows sometimes, you have different setups for different things. 100%. Yeah, you've got like one show that's got somebody over Discord, another one where you've got somebody maybe over Skype, or you need to send music back to them or

audio or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Especially if you're doing that. Yeah, if you're talking, like we're doing on this show right now, Scott, I'm sure, has set up of a mix minus setup. the person writing said they wanted us to geek out about our audio stuff. It's like you can hear, you can hear, you can hear this, right?

But you can't hear this. So you didn't hear that, right? Yeah, so I've got, I can hear Brian, but Brian can't hear himself. Well, he can hear himself, but. Actually, I can't hear myself thanks to audio hijack. Oh, I see you're just saying, like Scott's not setting my audio. You're not hearing an echo because you're not hearing yourself. from Scott.

Right. One of my favorite features of audio hijack pro is using it just as a headphone monitor of my microphone. For whatever reason, I need to be able to hear myself so I can like, oh, I'm too far. I better come closer. Oh, maybe that's too close or whatever. But it's the only thing that I found that has zero latency. When I say a word, boom, I hear it in my headphones instantly. Hijack's good for that.

I don't actually use hijack at all. I do kind of a weird thing where the mixer is the only thing that's. sending me back audio, and I don't hear any echo as a result or delay. But that took a while for me to figure out the best solution for it. But you're not wrong. Windows audio subsystem stuff, kind of janky, has been forever. Yeah. And if you reboot, it all resets.

Stuff gets weird. You get an update. It doesn't remember anything that you had set up. It's a giant pain in the ass. For whatever reason, audio subsystem stuff on a Mac is just a lot more straightforward and simple and not hard to wrangle. Yeah, very user-friendly. And those Rogamibah guys just make really great software,

so they're a huge part of this. I could not live without Loopback. That is the best tool in the toolbox, which is more like the virtual audio cables function of Windows. But it's basically like, all right, send this audio from Discord to my recording program, but send this one back to Discord without this. What was the one we used to use back in the day?

And then they claimed they couldn't do it anymore. What was it? Wiretap. Wiretap. Wiretap was this great. solution at the time is before Luteback. And then they suddenly stopped right around Snow Leopard and they said, well, we can't. Yeah, there was something with the audio processing on the Mac that said, oh, we can't, we don't

have access to that. That's what they claimed anyway. And then they shut it all down saying, well, it's not going to work. Meanwhile, these guys do it just fine. It doesn't make any sense. Those guys were full of crap. I don't know what happened. Yeah, yeah.

They were just bad of their jobs. It's all right. Roganita. Here, take my money. Take my money, Rogumiba. They haven't made anything bad ever for Mac users. Anyway, well, there's that. All right, now, here's the call.

All right, the phone call. Yes. Enjoy. Hello, Scott Johnson. I'm calling for the morning stream. This is about a segment with Bobby. You were chatting with him about flying as you do. And he mentioned that pilots were essentially flying bus drivers.

And then you said something like, Oh, man, a pilot might be offended by that, or a pilot might not like that or something. Oh, I'm sitting here in my Ford F550 Super Duty turbo diesel 26 passenger bus right now, and I'm wondering why you think a pilot might be offended by being called a bus driver. I would love to know. I love the show. I have a great day. I love the show, he says at the end.

I don't know if it was me or you. So that's the one thing I wanted to get out of the way. So, again, I don't think that this caller is saying that I threw any shade at all. I just matter-of-factly said that, what do you call it? Like, airline pilots are often thought of as, like, they're driving a bus, right? They're even called air buses. Right. And so I definitely didn't think throw any shade at that.

But I think he's saying that you, said, you know, bus drivers might be offended by that. Well, here's my... Or not, that pilots might be offended. Here's my addendum to that. Here's my addendum. Because I would say, while I mean zero shade, especially to this dude, he sounds cool. Zero shade at all toward the occupation of driving a bus.

I'm saying that uppity pilots might feel some shade toward bus drivers. And therefore, we'd be like, don't compare me to a bus driver. that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that that's what you are. I'm saying pilots because the only, I've met, I don't know, five or six people who are commercial pilots in my life through business and other stuff. They're all kind of very good at their jobs, but they're kind of dickish.

They're all like up here going, oh, yes, I'm a fly pilot. I'm a pilot. This is a very hard deal that I do. It's very near. There's a lot of that going on. so if we have any pilots out there who are offended by white i just said just now let us know but that's all i'm saying is i think these i think those guys would look down on the bus

reference that's all i'm saying yeah we're going to get a call next week it's going to be like this uh scott you uh threw some shade at the that'll be obama uh former president obama it was kind of a little bit obvi it's a little bit of my obamination that's great uh well anyway If you look to your left, you'll see some offense that I've taken on your most recent episode. Well, I love that call. That guy was great. And if you want to do this, and even if it's, whether it's about Bobby or anything else, that number is 801-471-0-462. And you can leave his voicemails and or text, whatever you feel like doing.

All right, Bobby, you probably brought some real science with you today. What is it and why will we be excited to talk about it? Well, I did sort of bring a little bit of something that I'm working up to talk a little bit more about on my podcast. proper when I record it later this week. It has to do with some galaxies that James Webb Space Telescope has been looking at. But I'm wondering if you want to hear my thoughts.

Everybody keeps wanting to hear my thoughts about this bionic reading stuff. Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do. I've had more than one person asked me to talk about it on the show, on my show. Yeah. And I haven't. And there's

a reason why. And because this, first of all, I'm very skeptical about the bionic reading stuff. I'll say that right at the top. Yeah. Does it not, when you see it, does it not, can you not read it any quicker or does it, how does it? It has nothing to do with that, like just the claim I'm very skeptical about. And the more I dug into it, the more skeptical I got. Really?

Yeah, because, and so the, so to cut to the chase of why I didn't bring it up on, why I haven't brought it up on my podcast, just because in general, if there's something, that I'm just skeptical about. I don't see any reason to bring it up on my podcast because we're not a, we're not a, our podcast is, that's not what we're trying to do is push our glasses up and say, well, actually, all the time. You know, so, so that's why I haven't addressed on the show. But, but since you guys did talk about it, this whole thing about bionic reading,

first of all, bionic reading right away, you should, you should be aware of the fact that that is a trademark name. Oh, really? Okay. Right. Oh, who owns that? That automatically should always raise some skeptical alarm bells. That doesn't mean it's not true or it's not based on something

true. That just means whoever is telling you and trying to tell you all about bionic reading, trademark, they've got something they're trying to sell. Well, what if nobody told me about it, and all I know is I can read these paragraphs way faster than I can

without them? So, so I'll jump around, yeah, I'll answer, instead of going sequentially through my thoughts, I'll answer your questions as they come. Right. So you, you read it and you thought, I feel like I can read this faster. And it's entirely possible that that is just an illusion, that you're not actually reading it faster. You just feel like you're reading it faster because of the emphasis that's being placed on the words. There's this, and then so your perception of. how fast you read it is then something you think about later.

Now, already, like, you remember being able to read it more easily or faster. Now, I know that some people are already going to say, well, either they timed themselves or they timed someone else, or there's all this research of people being timed on their reading of things, and it just seems to be faster. That may be true. It may be that you can read it faster, but let me ask you, what, why do we read things? uh it's so that we can understand what's written there yeah to educate and entertain to so we read things or why do we write things down and have other people read them is because we're trying to you know transmit information which requires comprehension right like nobody's getting anything out of the thing that you're writing they're not reading anything with a purpose if they're not understanding what they're reading and being able to read something faster has nothing to do with whether or not you're able to comprehend it better.

Sure. So that's, and that's research that's been done on so-called speed reading claims for a really, really long time. And the evidence has always been that despite what people trying to sell you speed reading programs claim, the evidence has consistently shown that speed reading tactics and techniques do not increase comprehension. At the best, they don't increase comprehension. At the worst, they probably reduce comprehension ability.

yeah um well hold on because i didn't answer one of your question or i didn't answer your question properly when you said why do we read things and now hearing you say this here's why this is helpful for me yeah uh at least from what i can tell when i'm reading on the show or on a show my goal isn't to comprehend because i've already done that because i went and found it before and thought was this going to be good in the show and all of that my goal is to get those words out and not be distracted and this makes me feel less distracted like i i i i only know that the difference between those two blocks of of text are one is one is like bam out done out the door got it nailed it every word didn't slow down didn't didn't have to do an um or uh didn't get

bunged up because i got distracted and the other all those other things are true sure not all the time but sometimes so i get that there's generally not a you know like like getting it more quick what you said about getting it more quickly and processing it are two different things right so like processing information more deeply or ripping through it obviously are two different things and if your goal is to comprehend and this may even be detrimental to people I don't know but all I know is and again you're hinting it like maybe placebo effect or something which I'm totally open to this conversation by the way this isn't me being defined I'm just saying that when I read one.

Because let me be clear, I don't know what the answer is. Right. I'm explaining what the reasons are that I'm skeptical of it. And I will say that I've dug and there's not, there's not really any research that's being done on this bionic reading stuff. So that's the other problem. We don't know because the research isn't being done. On their website even, a lot of these people that will push these.

trademark methods or things that are new and this new idea they'll do their own research but it's usually not great I don't even think that they've done much of their own research they just cite a bunch of old research and I feel like they're citing it

either out of context or as a distraction because it's the research that they're citing isn't doesn't show what they're claiming it just seems to show what they're claiming I'm making it sound like they're being deliberately deceptive. I'm not here to make claims like that.

I often think that people who are trying to sell these things maybe genuinely do believe that they work. And they very well may be. So I always try to be charitable with people's claims. You know, like, I don't think they're just trying to rip people off. But you can't know how well it works unless the research has been done, you know. Right, right. No, that's a good point. I don't know what it is, though.

Like, part of me wishes, well, that's what I did when I first saw it. I didn't know what it was. I just saw this paragraph. I was with all these bold letters. But then I just chewed through it. It was like, wham, wham. And did you have an un, like, because what I did was I read one paragraph and then I read the same, or paragraph, or a set of paragraphs, then with the bolded, with the bionic text. you went straight into the bionic text, right?

Scott, or did you have, did you do? I did. I did somebody sent me a thing that was just the text or, you know, just the stuff with the bolts and the lead-ins or whatever to the letters. Yeah. And that one all on its own, it just was like, I don't know, I can't even explain it.

It was like, I've never speed read, but the only thing I can think of is I just went through this thing. And then I went and looked up another block of similar text, not the same text, but similar text. And it was my normal pace. then when I converted it

just ripped through it again and there's some people are like oh I get all bunged up on it and it actually slows me down I could never do this or others are like the bold letters are really distracting to me so like you know mileage may vary obviously depending on who you are

but for whatever reason it just made me just haul ass and I can't explain it and so the the whole placebo effect thing that I'm talking about is what to to drill down on it a little bit What I'm really saying is that it might feel easier, and that might be what's the effect is, is it that just feels easier because you're able to focus on the words better, but you might

not actually be reading it faster. It just might feel easier to read. And there's well-known effects called, what's it called? Perceptual fluency, I think. It's this idea that if something feels easier, and there's a lot of different areas where perceptual fluency has been studied. and it's this idea that if something feels easier then you will like it or trust it more

and so that they may be relying a lot on that feeling and it becomes very anecdotal and very personal when when and that you know that's why you put it in front of people and say here read this feels easier to read and then there you go yeah yeah no that makes sense so like if um oh how do I put this like the well whatever you described it like placebo is such a complicated thing anyway right like people actually in tests where

placebos are part of the test for control there are there are groups of them who who are better or feel better they may not you know cancer may not go away but you know they they feel better because they think they've been given the pill and that that's sometimes enough for us to to do enough in our heads to control things I mean it's the whole point of the placebo effect I guess but be careful not to trigger me about the placebo effect yeah I don't I don't want to get to. We don't have time. Yeah, we don't have time for that. But so I guess I understand, you know, on a basic way, how that works. But I've never thought about it in, in terms of this. Like, I think I, Brian, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's two guys who studied typology in college, fonts matter, right? Like, so if you got a shitty, if you got a shitty reading font, you're going to read slower. You can read seraph fonts faster than sans seraphons because those lines create. a visual track or a subliminal track for you to go through.

Right. At least that's what we were taught. And it does, you know, you don't want to give somebody a bad font for a book or else they just don't get read the way that they would if it was a readable font. And there's a group of those that people generally whatever. And then there's font size depending on your eyes. Maybe you're struggling with smaller text. I mean, there's all those issues. And that has a lot to do with things like eye strain and just how quickly.

your eyes able to focus, stuff like that. And that could also, that could be something that's at play here. And that could lead to that feeling of this feels easier to read, you know, but that has nothing. Their claim is that it's going to be, it's going to increase your increased comprehension and increase speed, which isn't necessarily true. We don't know if that's true. The other thing is, there is a lot of research on eye tracking and how our eyes. are drawn to words and how they most efficiently scan and process words. And so you would think that whatever that is,

whatever that natural tendency of where your eye is naturally tends to fall in a word, that that should be where you bold it. And the beginning of a word is not where your eye naturally wants to fall. There's a lot of research that shows that we look, especially the longer the word, the more this is true, obviously. But our eye tends to want to fall into the middle of the word, and maybe just barely to the left of center of a word. Yeah.

Oh, you got a little one with a cold. It's very complicated at the point. I feel bad for one of your kids. Someone's sick. I know. My daughter is homesick from school. You guys can hear that. My daughter's homesick from school.

So she's over there doing drawing videos, Scott. She's learning. Oh, very cool. That's great. Nothing wrong with that. I'm trying to find it really quick. There was a font that there was a big deal a couple years ago, and I can't remember to create it, but it was a font that, it was a font that,

took certain line segments out to make it a little bit more compact and because of that you're able to read through it a lot faster i thought it was called clear font but i'm not oh i remember that yeah i actually still i think have it installed on my computer i'm trying to find i know what you're talking about it the left the the the letters end up looking kind of like glyphs yeah yeah exactly and uh i'd be curious like you know to know all right how how much does that help things or hurt things in the in the speed reading and can you multiply that effect if bionic bionic font was to work could that be multiplied by using something like this yeah who knows it's just it's just there's a lot like if you want to know if this is actually doing anything you need to do

the work right um and that's that's what bugs me about things like this is they haven't done the work they're just looking at some old research and kind of like drawing some conclusions from it it seems and then marketing something. Yeah. And so that always makes me, you know, get, feel very skeptical and say, hmm, I'm not so sure about this. And I can't get anywhere with it because the research hasn't been done. Right, right, right.

Well, interesting. I'm glad we went deeper on it because I don't understand why this is so much easier for me to read. Now, let me say if in a couple of years the research is done and it shows that it does work, I don't want people coming at me going like, ha, gotcha, Bobby. Because I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying I have a feeling it doesn't work because of all these reasons,

but we can't know. So I'm, you know, like Brian, don't buy the app or whatever it was because you don't know. You could just be fooling yourself into thinking. And that's my tie to the skeptical movement, to skepticism is in consumer protection. That's why I care about it.

And so I don't think we should be being sold things that there's nothing to back them up. No proof behind. Well, I agree with that. What are they selling, though? Are they actually selling something? Well, the extension in Safari is, has a paid. Which is weird because I did actually find a Chrome extension. But that's not them.

What I mean is like whoever copyright of the thing. Yeah, this is just somebody trying to take advantage of it. But like my chromium one, the one I'm running in Brave, is free. I did find a Chrome extension by the bionic reading people that that will take a website and convert it to this method or whatever. But I don't know, they, they, it just, it's very, there's something that there's, I did remember seeing on their website, there are things you can apps and stuff that they are trying to, programs that you can, you can buy and stuff like that. Sure. I found the font. It's Sands Forgetica.

Sands Forgetica? Are you kidding? Sands for Gettica, yeah. Oh my gosh. It's, I'll put a link to the Wikipedia page, but it's, um, uh. Oh, this is what I remember, but I didn't know what it was called. Yeah. I remember this.

Yeah. Check this out, chat. Chunks of the font, yeah. Yeah, big hunks of it just ripped out, right? Like the A and the N. Like, think of the S with a big old right in the middle of it. Yeah. The W that.

looks like an A with quotation marks around it, single quotes around it. Let's see. This was a multidisciplinary team of designers and behavioral scientists from RMIT University, came up at this. I mean, who knows if this, this looks like it wouldn't work for me. This one said the first peer-reviewed study demonstrated that Sandsfergetica was not effective for enhancing memory. Oh, it was not. Okay. Was not, no.

Well, it's definitely good for me remembering that my printer needs toner because it feels like It's what it looks like, yeah Exactly My typewriter ribbon is getting old The other thing is And this is the last thing I'll say about it Because I just thought of this too When you do the bionic reading thing

It'll highlight either the first letter Or the first chunk of every word Right including really short words Like on the and of It'll highlight that It'll bold that first letter Well there's a lot of research that shows that when you

eye scan, when they do eye tracking and you're scanning over text, you just skip those words. Your eyes don't even focus on those words. So you know, it seemed to me that if you are bolding those and causing yourself to focus

on those words, wouldn't that slow you down? Like, for some, it doesn't for me though. The eyes to the parts that lead to the most comprehension and efficient reading you know I mean unless your eyes are able

unless your brain is saying yeah I'm done with that word go to the next one I like got what I need based on the context of those two letters those two bolded letters I know exactly what that word is go to the next one kind of thing well take this is for what it is but I took that same group of paragraph

where we got the bolded first two three letters of every word depending on the length of the word and I reversed the reversed it I just went in and manually reversed it so now I've got the last, depending on the word, the last one, two or three letters are bold. I can't read that shit. It's like hitting a wall.

Interesting. So I can read it, but I'm stuttering through it. It's like, oh, okay. It feels like I'm hitting walls at the end of every word, whereas the other way, I feel like I'm jumping off a cliff on a word. And it's like, ah, there's the whole word. So if the word's sanctimonious, I'm like, sanctimonious. Woo-hoo! Yeah.

You know? I mean, what about all those things that you read where they would take, they'll take the first and last letter and leave them the same and then jumble up all the middle letters what if you just bolded the first letter and the last letter i don't know maybe that would well maybe we should try that i don't know what that would you never it's it's you have to research it to find out right that's the whole point yeah yeah yeah no i get it there may even be just a really simple principle of composition happening here so like in uh in art uh art studies you learn about composition and flow and flow can differ in different cultures like the flow the direction of flow is different say

in a lot of Japanese work as opposed to Western work because they, not just in their books, but in other art forms, tend to go from right to left, and we tend to go from left to right. And so if you're creating a painting and you want to kind of have a flow to it, you have to think of these things. And sometimes that flow means big, object, small object. It's like alliteration in words even, where it's just like you flow easily into the next thing. And I think starting with a big, fat, bold letter, for me, me anyway starts the flow and the flow is almost like a funnel. To me you just you just opened up a

whole other can of worms in terms of why I feel like this might not be very plausible and that is that bolding the left hand side the first couple letters in a in a word like that is very culturally specific yeah yeah for sure it's uh in in eastern or in writing that go does go right to left this has got to be like the wouldn't you have to do it differently um if what about what about languages japanese where the letters go down and stuff like yeah and and in those ones where you're using um glyph alphabets you know like that represent whole words

yeah like that's how is that totally different and what that means if you would have to do it differently for different languages and different cultural setups for how how information is expressed textually then that absolutely means that this is not inherent in our in our brains oh yeah no i don't i don't even think that that well maybe that is their claim but i think i think my assumption is this is for english like this works because our alphabet our 26 letter alphabet and the way it lays itself out and the way our words are constructed that's why it works and if they were all using that it would work for them but they're not that it somehow patches the english language to make it more a little

A little bit, yeah, because it's a complicated language anyway. A proper sentence is 4-4-4-4 or whatever the frick that one is. I forget what it is. But it's so weird, like the way we construct words and the concept that you could take any of these things. Like, there's probably a whole different concept or approach to the way you would do Japanese characters, but it wouldn't involve bolding. It would involve something else. Like, I don't know what it would be, but the idea is that it would be. specific to the language model.

At least that's my, from what I can tell. And you're right, none of this is studied, so who knows, it's all guesswork. But it's where the logic takes me anyway. I'd love to see a study about this, because I just think it's fascinating. Yeah, and I think it's definitely should be done. So anybody, any scientists in this field that are out there, you should, you should get on that. Yeah, get on that. Get it going.

If you do it right now, do it. Yeah, Egyptian hieroglyphics. How do you bulldoze? That's a weird idea. Anyway, well, Bobby, as always, good to have you here and your voice here and all this discussion. Tell people where they can get All Around Science and what you guys are discussing coming up. Yeah, All Around Science is the podcast that me and my co-host, Mora, do. You can get that on everywhere.

Just look for All Around Science or go to All Around Science.com. This past week, we actually did a mailbag episode, our first mailbag episode. We started to get some questions piled up, and there were a lot of dark. energy questions people are really interested in dark energy dark energy I like it so yeah so we talked a bit about that and some other things I and that that episode's already out next week I guess I'm going to talk about what I was going to talk about until you you piqued my interest with this bionic reading stuff which is about the James Webb Space Telescope there's been a lot of for the

past week been talking about this this thing where they found a bunch of galaxies from the very beginning of our universe that are way bigger than they that they feel like they should have been like galaxies shouldn't have been as big as our Milky Way from like 500 million years after the Big Bang and it seems way like almost 100 times faster than they should have been able to form so

it's a really interesting new physics maybe and so I'll talk about that on next week's show so check it out all around science that's right go check it out because it's good okay it's very good we've determined we've we've studies have come back and said science is good

science is good I think we have now I'm going to hang up on Bobby we're going to find out if it makes Discord fart or not okay here we go bye Bobby all right he's gone nope we're good wait yep are we good and we it's not good okay now we're back

what did nothing it just reboot it doesn't weird Discord's weird man for a second it looks like it goes over okay but then it went blank and maybe next time let's have him turn off his video first yeah might be might be that maybe it's just farting on that i don't know can't figure it out we need science on that bobby tell us the science of that how do we touch this uh real quick before we get out of here we got a turro comment yeah let's talk about it and he says uh or he it's not

he it's a she it's lesley logan's yeah yeah love her so i just want to comment on something brian said when talking about Turo on yesterday's episode. He mentioned the idea of somebody renting a Tesla as an alternative to test driving one. My husband, Chris, totally did that. He rented a Tesla any time we needed to take a long drive anywhere or needed a rental after flying somewhere. By the time his model Y arrived in December, we already knew everything about it. It came in white, but he got it wrapped in Rams Blue. Wow.

That's dedication right there. Yeah, that's such a cool idea, and I might have to think about that for my next car. But, yeah, it looks like, so I had my, put my car up on Turo on Sunday morning. Yeah. Basically finished getting all the photos done and edited, had to kind of clean, do some photo retouching to just make it look like, you know, look like there weren't water droplets all over and things like that. Sure. um take the lift signs out of the window yeah good idea because i was too lazy to take those out before i took photos and um put it up on sunday morning and yesterday afternoon got my first

touro rental agreement which is uh somebody picking it up tomorrow and bringing it back to me on sunday so talk about your trial by fire it's going to be like a technically a uh 96 hour rental is that right for 24-hour? Oh, I see. Right. Feels? Yeah. Yeah. So you're going to find out. Yep, exactly. So I'm going to see what this whole thing is about. And yes, Katrina's carousel, I am absolutely nervous about this, although I looked up, did some research on the guy who's renting it, and he's got a bunch of every review from people he's rented from as positive. So, okay. Yeah. All right. So it's not going to be like those guys in Ferris Bueller's day off

where they take them. I know. That's what country do you think this is? Yeah, that guy. I'm sure hoping. Yeah. Well, they have the huge insurance policy that they cover you with, right? They do. Yeah. I mean, really, really good insurance policy through Turo. And

I definitely need to make some adjustments because I'm looking at other people's tour of their other cars around the same as mine. And they're like, oh yeah, here's a cleaning fee that we're adding. Here's this fee. of that fee, it's like, oh, yeah, I need to do all those things. Right now,

he got in before I really figured things out. And so he's getting a screaming deal, but I need to add in all those extras for him. Yeah, no kidding, dude. Now you get to Nicklin. You get to be Vegas. You get to do resort fees basically. Exactly, yeah. You want

a free newspaper? It's going to be an extra $8. Yep. Yep. Welcome to resort fee town. That's fantastic. Yeah, exactly. All right. Crazy Turk. it took me, like if I already had the photos, if you don't count the time it takes to get the, take photos

of the outside and a couple shots of the inside of your car. The whole thing maybe took me half an hour, 45 minutes to set up. No big deal. I don't even have to, like with Lyft, I have to go take my car to a place that can do a

evaluation on it, an inspection. Not with Turo. It's like, hey, boop. You're all set. Did they give you, do they have to approve you? Like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, they have to look at your back, they have to do background check or any of that? They did a background check on me, yeah, just to make sure I wasn't doing, you know,

make me sure that I don't have like a bunch of car stolen car felonies or something in my background. Yeah, you don't have Pinkman blue meth in the back seat or something. Exactly, exactly. But so when I buy my next car, I'm probably not going to trade in the soul. I'll just keep the soul on Turo, depending on how well it does. Then I'll have my own car and then I'll have this. We were just thinking about this. But don't you always have to take that car to wherever it needs to go or do they come to you?

He's coming to pick up the car from me, which is one of the nickel and dimey kind of things I'm going to add. I will deliver it to the airport and pick it up from the airport, but it's going to be an extra fee to do that. And it's easy for me because there's a light rail I can take that gets me. 90% of the way back home. But you can set it up so that they don't come to your house, but that they come to a parking lot near your house so that they don't see, so they don't know exactly where you live. Interesting.

Okay. Yep. Well, guinea pig in it for the rest of us. I like it. Totally guinea pig in it. Yeah. Getting that guinea in the pig. All right.

Well done. Hey, tonight, 3.30 Mountain Time. We're doing an All Things Star Fox episode of Playwright. retro, me, and Dunaway. So you didn't hear it announced yesterday because we didn't have a show. So that'll be today, 3.30 Mountain Time, me, Dunaway, and all the Star Fox you can eat, starting with the S&ES original all the way up through its current iterations, or at least we'll discuss those. But yeah, how influential was the stupid talking fox? Well, you'll find out later today. Do a barrel roll. Do a barrel roll. That was my favorite.

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and screaming my way back into my youthful 20s. I'm a big Weezer fan and there's a song on their Pinkerton album that embodies this kicking and screaming mentality pretty well. It's called The Good Life. It might be a stretch to find a cover of that song, but if anyone can do it, it's Brian Abbott. If you can't find that, then any cover of a Weezer song from the Blue album would be great, something like, my name is Jonas or Buddy Holly or something. Anyway, love you guys.

I look forward to another year of working with the two of you, I'm sorry, with the two of my podcasting heroes. Oh, shut up. Favorite people and friends, you guys are the best. Bobby, I threw that in there for his kid. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. Everybody's got a cough. Yeah, I get it.

That's good. Yep, exactly. You're sweet, Bobby. Thank you and happy birthday. I hope you have a fantastic day. Come on. A cover of The Good Life. I have three.

I had three to choose from in my library already without even doing any hunting. And this was my favorite of the three. This almost feels like if Kate Bush covered Weezer. There's a very Kate Bush feel to this. This is the song The Good Life by Weezer, covered by Zylos from the engine room recordings presents a tribute to Weezer from 2012. Here is Zylos. When I look in the mirror, I can't believe what I see.

Tell me who's that crazy, crazy. staring back at me broken beating down can't even get around I fall on hit the ground shivering in the cold bitter and the low Excuse the bitching

I shouldn't complain I should I'm not feeling Because feeling is pain There's everything I need It's denied me And everything I want Is taken away from me But who I got to blame

Nobody even me And I don't want to be an old man anymore It's been a year or two Since I was out on the floor Making sweet love all through the night This time I got back To the good life And I don't even know

know how I got up the track Screw this crap I had it Ain't no Mr. Cruel I'm a pig I'm a dog Excuse me if I do I ain't gonna hit nobody

Ain't gonna cause a sea I need to admit that I want sugar Hear me, hear me, I wash sugar in my tea I don't want to be an old man anymore. I don't want to be an old man anymore it's been a year of two since I was out on the floor make a sweet love all through the night

the time I got back to the good life and I don't even know how I got off the track La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la I don't want to be an old man anymore It's been a year up to since I was out on the floor Making sweet love all through the night The time I got back to the good, good life And I don't even know how I got on the track

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