The Morning Stream - TMS 2430: Bougie Picnic Basket

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

That Looks Like a Pokemon I'd Like to Capture. Hungry Shark do-do-do-do-do Hungry Shark do-do-do-do-do. It all made sense till I woke up. Neither Take Apple Pencils nor Leave Apple Pencils. Skid marks belong on the road, not car seats. The Tomato Shoe Thing is Bullshit. Apple pies and weirdos. WickedKitten on Grindr. Vermonicole. Windows 12: We Figured Our Audio Shit Out. Ring the Exocist my Ford's been Possessed. Leave it to the hate groups to ruin everything. The Nickelodeon Generation. Warm Chocolate Clouds with Amy. Trigger Warnings with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, that looks like a Pokemon I'd like to capture. Hungry shark do-do-do-do-do-do. It all made sense till I woke up. Neither take apple pencils nor leave Apple pencils. Skid marks belong on the road, not in car seats. That tomato shoe thing is bullshit. Apple pies and weirdos. Wicked kitten on Grindr.

Vermonical. Windows 12, we figured our audio shit out. Ring the exorcist my Ford has been possessed. Leave it to the hate groups to ruin everything. The Nickelodeon generation. Warm chocolate clouds with Amy. Trigger warnings with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. What's all this for?

I swear, man, if I end up losing more pigs over this, I'll freak the hell out. Well, it's still cheaper in whole foods. You sawed off sadistic bastard? You betrayed us. This is the morning stream. Good morning and welcome to TMS. It's Thursday, March 2nd, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson.

That's Brian Ibbett. Hello. Hello. My friend, hello. Hey, it's a new day. It's a new day. It's a new dawn. It's a new day.

It's a new life for me. It's a brand new morning in America or whatever, Reagan. said is that what he said good morning no he didn't say good morning america he said no he didn't say good morning america he said no he said all he ever said was well well i yeah nancy and my beans um um well mr gorbachev tear down that wall and take off that weird tattoo on your forehead oh it's a birth mark quit falling asleep in the wine uh anyway we're good to see you all here's the deal let's get this out of the way or sure I had a dream

it was a weird one Brian was not in it that I know of but there were so many people in it you very well could have been it was a crowd of people Okay A cast of thousands I really did feel like that

It was a lot of people Very cramped as well We were in like some sort of dormitory waiting for some kind of Almost like a class or like a big speech or something But everybody was like camping all over the floor floors and it was just like a big i don't know what to do i don't even how to describe this but everybody was crammed in a space and you had whatever you had with you and for some reason i had

five apple pencils which at 119 bucks a piece is a fair amount of money you know yeah it's a lot of a lot of apple pencil all the new version all the the the current yeah the 2.01 so it'd be like uh 600 something dollars worth a worth of apple pencils and it's weird because in the dream i didn't even have the iPad Pro with me. It was just these pencils. And I, and they seemed, and they were just really important. Like, they were crucial. And so I had them in a place where I thought they were safe and everything was good. And then this dream is just sort of chaotic. And it's like, oh, everyone needs to be in the dormitory thing by four. Ah, we're all mad rush over there. Okay, now we all have to go brer, and again, none of it makes sense now, but in the dream it did. It felt like it was all

important. We had to run around. And at some point, they're like, all right, you got to get your stuff. We're moving to the next phase. And I went to get my stuff. And all, five of my apple pencils were gone. Someone had taken them, I guess, or I'd lost them, and I searched, and I remember searching through a box that was full to the brim of Apple pencils, but they were all the

1.0 ones. Oh, no. And they all had weird eraser tips and then little grippy things on the front, like people add to it. Oh, that stupid cap that had to come off you had to charge it with the... Yeah, it was so dumb. I sticking it in the end of your iPad. I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs haunted

Tim Apple, Tim Cook. Tim Apple. I love it. I think he haunted him about that stupid design on that first pen. I'm sure. Well, he should have because that's so dumb. Anyway, it was just full of those. I'm digging through it. And some of them are different colors. That made no sense. But there's like a red one and a black one. And I'm digging toward the bottom. And none of them are my pencils. All five are still missing. And then it was just like a repeating of this over and over and over. One of the most

frustrating dreams I've ever had until I woke up and went well that was stupid what was the point of that that made no sense to me okay now see on the surface it's like well the apple pencils what does that mean it can't mean anything right I can't imagine that there's any

sort of like oh well if you dream about apple pencils in any sort of format then then it means this however I would argue that the dreaming of needing something and losing it and struggling to find it is absolutely something you took into to bed with you.

Okay. It's like a, uh, like it's, it's, it's not, uh, Freud would say, oh, he's, he's, he's not about, but where, what is he? He's German. He's German. He's not about, I'm getting, jumping like eight different accents trying to find my German. Yeah. Paul, the problem is not about the apple pencil.

No. The problem. You got it. You finally got it. You got the, it was good. The problem is definitely something like you are feeling like you are worried about losing something. Worried about losing something and not being able to find it. Okay, fair enough.

Now, if that's true. See, here's the thing. I don't believe in this whole like, well, if you dream of spiders, that means that you're going to have a very unlucky day. Or if you dream of spilling tomato sauce in your shoes, then that means that you're worried about a loved one. You know, bullshit. Sure. Sorry, sorry anyone who believes in the tomato shoe thing, but bullshit. Exactly.

But I do believe that you take your stresses to dreams with you, and those do totally get brought into life. So I will say this. I have been feeling unorganized lately. Oh, see, right there. it and that and that's just like oh i feel behind on this i feel behind on that where's that thing i have been redoing a bunch of stuff in the studio here so that's been adding to this you can see these bins behind me i'm slowly like organizing a bunch of grass oh i know it looks so much cleaner behind you that

desk yeah so i'm going through all that i got a bunch over there anyway i got all this stuff going on and i think maybe i went into this dream with this just the sense of like where's the where's all the things i need versus the things i don't need yeah yeah and then it translated itself into this and here's the stupid thing i wake up up and I, and my brain goes, oh, that was dumb. And I go, yeah, I agree, that was dumb. I like the janitor conversation with your brain. As if they're two separate entities, sure.

And then my first instinct was to look over here and make sure that my Apple Pencil was secure and there. And it was. So I still had this feeling of like, where is it? And there it was. Where's my Apple Pencil? Yeah. It's weird, man. I don't get it.

I don't get why I have these. I mean, I think you're right. And I think in this case, we could boil it down to. I took some of that stress to bed and here's how it manifested. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I got to get better at, like, wiping that whiteboard before I hit the sack, you know? You do. You definitely do.

And I don't know how you do it, right? Because you can't say, well, I'm going to completely organize my office in one day so that I have good dreams. Yeah. I think what you've got to do is just have a list of a plan of how you're going to do it. And the plan is what relieves the stress. Gotcha. I need to do that with TMS Vegas. I have like, like, all these things are like, oh, yeah, I need to get this,

and I need to make sure we have some of this, and I need to have this printed up, and I need to do this. And that list is just up in here, and it shouldn't be. It needs to be on a piece of, on a piece of this, right here, right here. That's right, good old-fashioned paper. You ever seen this? Yeah, I've seen paper, oh, paper, paper. Look at it, look at it.

Yeah. Oh, the famous Kim Coats line. Look at it. That's paper. Ah, the great Kim Coats, everybody. I love that guy. Anyway, that's what happened. Hey, last night, I got all these photos from Brian,

and it seemed like Brian was having a way better time than me, so tell people what you did. Yeah, I went to Meow Wolf here in Denver. Currently, just the three cities. You've got Denver, Las Vegas, and the original flavor in Santa Fe, New Mexico, the three Miaols, although they're building two in Texas that probably will be done this year, I think.

Oh, wow. It just blows my mind. Texas would be so far down on the list of places I think would do well with a Miao Wolf. I think Portland, Oregon, why there's not one there already? Well, Austin, Austin sounds like a place that they would do business. And believe it or not, Austin is not one of the two places in Texas getting, yeah, yeah. Okay, so that surprises me.

I was sure you're going to tell me it was Austin or maybe even both of them in Austin or something. Because Austin does strike me as the artistic place to do it. For sure would be, yeah, let's see here. See if I can find a list of the North of Dallas, Fort Worth International Airport. I just don't see, you know, hey, I love you. Love you folks in Texas, but I just don't see a Dallas, a big Dallas art crowd. Maybe, prove me wrong. Totally prove me wrong.

Then there's another one in Houston, Texas opening in 2024. But Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Burlington, Vermont. I mean, I'm thinking of all these places that are known for being super art. at sea. Park City, Utah. Get it in here. Park City, Utah would be a great one. Or Salt Lake, I don't care.

Just bring it. We're an artistic bunch in there. Just don't go south of the mountain. Then you're going to run into all the apple pies and the weirdos. Don't do that. Right. What is this weird art installation? I don't understand.

I believe Satan might be behind this art installation. Don't go there. So every month, they do this thing at Miao Wolf called Adultiverse. And it's one day, one night a month. It's the adult averse of madness, is what it is. And it's an adult only, I'm looking it up to see if they do it at all the locations. But it's an adult only... Not orgy?

Okay, no orgy. It's not orgy. That's a shame. It's a shame. It's an adult only time at Meow Wolf, so no kids. And it also means they've got alcohol stations, like places where you can buy, like little, like open bars that you see at most. wedding venues and ballrooms and stuff like that. Oh, like the guy at our game, the Vegas game room show thing.

At the Vegas game room, right, where he just has a table with like five drinks he can make, couple beers, couple ciders, et cetera. And by open bar, I'm not, I'm definitely not saying that it's like, oh, it's you just walk up and you get the alcohol for free. You still have to pay for it. Sure. And since I'm on muscle relaxants, I took it kind of easy last night. I took it very easy last night.

Yeah, smart. But it's, God, it's such a. different vibe. They also have a theme for every adultaverse. So last night it was mystics and cryptids, and you could dress up as your favorite mystic or cryptid.

Tina and I got our likenesses drawn as cryptids. I have Jersey Devil Horns. I need to scan it and post it somewhere where people can see it. That's cool. Tina had Mothman antenna.

But they also had like a big, the local Bigfoot kind of jokey Bigfoot hunters group had a table there and they were selling their wares and talking to you about Bigfoot. And they had a cryptid panel of people dressed up as cryptids. We didn't see it. We just saw the table and saw the times. We're like, we're not going to be here for that. But next month, April 5th, is emoverse. So bring your favorite sadness and show up as your favorite. emo character or her

lead singer or the cure whatever you need it's fine that's right exactly sure hello the cure yeah yeah anyway so it's it's a really really cool event and it's got such a different vibe than the typical meowulf

it sounds awesome I didn't know that was even a thing and we were saying pre-show and I'll say it again it feels like a really great way to make that place returnable because once you see it if it's just the thing once you see it you're like well I've seen it and I guess that's it

but if they can theme around and whether it's the adult night or anything else it's like oh yeah there's a reason to go back and throw down that money and keep going exactly yep that's exactly right because yeah it's otherwise it's like well you know natural history museum

I've seen it don't need to go back or you take people when they come to town but this gives you another reason also there's a huge in each of the meowels there's a huge music venue and like Johnny J-A-W-N-Y is coming to the Denver one on March 14th. He's

awesome. They do a bingo thing one night, which is, I'm sure, as weird. You should do bingo. You should go to bingo, dude. I actually want to go April 14th is a cover band called Fleet Mac Wood. Oh, Lord.

Sounds like a cover band to me. It does. Not a tribute, but a rave and A.V. show that reworks the classic rock sound of the Mac into a spectrum of electronic genres. I'm all in. This sounds great. I think I need to go see Fleet Mac Wood. Yeah, Fleet Mac Wood.

That's amazing. Real quick here, you were talking about cryptids? Yeah. I would like to share my favorite. My favorite cryptid is a thing called the Ninjin. This is a Japanese folklore thing. Okay. And I'm going to share with you.

Hold on. How is it's Minjin? M-I-N-J-I-A-N. N-I-N-G-E-N. Ninja, like ninja, but Jen. Like a generation of ninjas, really. This is what it looks like, and you have to see this. So I'm putting it in Discord here.

Hold on. And then, Chad, I'll show it to you as well. Oh, geez, Louise. Yeah, look at this thing. That's like a real. Yeah, this is an actual. I mean, obviously not a real thing, but that is like a, many people believe that this thing kind of exists. This existed, yes.

So it's supposed to be some sort of aquatic, humanoid, whale-like creature that walks around on two feet. And I guess this is relatively modern. It was like 05 when people say they first spotted it and then since then it's like gained a bunch of popularity. So this is like early 2000s. Anyway, look at that thing. I mean, that looks like a Pokemon I'd love to capture. Look at that guy. I mean, how does it pee out of its face?

There's like a big old coquilla looking sack in the back where he just fires anything out of there. Yeah, it fires everything out. Yeah, just shoots it out there. Anyway, pretty cool, huh? I like that. It's really good. Yeah, I like it.

It's very cool. I want to design and make a 3D print of one of those things. I would support your efforts in doing that. All right, it is Red Fraggle Time. Yeah. That is the pseudonym by which Amy Robinson goes by. She comes on the show and talks about reading stuff, and today's no different. So let's just dive in.

Hey, look who it is. It's Amy. She's here to teach us what to read and maybe how to read. me yeah it's a you it's an amy amy how are you i'm doing well how are you guys doing doing all right you sound fantastic your mic is like on fleak today sound great oh yeah well good yeah well i i'm glad to hear that because i've been having sound issues abounding and so i made sure all my drivers were updated and i rebooted and did all the things early this morning i'll tell you what they need to do when when microsoft finally publishes windows 12 it should be called windows 12

colon, we finally figured our audio shit out. That's how it's... Yes. Yes. Because it's so weird. I resets all the time. You do an update and you're like, oh, go back and reset all your hoo-ha. Oh, every time.

And literally, so like the way I do the clips is I use audacity. Yeah. And I freaking have to go into my sound settings and enable the, you know, the thing that lets me capture computer audio. I have to go reenable that every single week. I'm like, stop disabling it. I want it. It's the devil's play thing. It's Satan's playground. It's bogus. It's bogus. All right. Well, it's the great to have you here. I know that we've got something pretty special lined up because you sent me some extra stuff, which I will share with the chat as we go.

But how do you want to present this? Well, okay, so we had an email that we didn't get to last week. Should I read that one? Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Please. Do you have a handy there with you? I do. I do have it handy. So this was from our friend. Nicole Ackerman, Dr. Nicky. Oh, Dr. Nicky. She's taking sheep and mixing them with dogs. We're going to end up with shogs at one point.

I'm so excited. We're going to end up with sheep dogs. Wait, we already have those. Oh, shoot. Well, someone let her know. Somebody, she might be doing all this work for nothing. Well, I'm like the brain damage of woodpeckers and stuff like that. Like, she does really interesting.

I keep saying there needs to be a helmet law. Yeah, right? No one listens to. Brian, you can't force people to do. you've got to hope that they have common sense and wear those helmets, you know? I try, right. Hold on a second. Is it that the woodpeckers are pecking so hard on the wood that that's hurting their brain?

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what she's trying to find out. Oh, wild. That's part of what she's studying is, you know, because she started it with sleep, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They must start with some sort of brain damage because why would you start lacking your head against the tree? They come to it with brain damage. That's why they do it.

Which comes first. The. yeah that's an interesting question how much brain damage do you have before we better you know establish a ground platform for where the damage starts before Papa woodpeckers up there with his wing slamming the kid's head and like here you got it toughen up junior

cowboy up I don't trust those things woodpeckers are bastards anyway well that's good that's super fun to her email Dear Amy, Brian, and Scott, I'm not sure I'm allowed to recommend books through Amy's saying, allowed. Like, when does anybody do anything they're allowed to do on this show? Especially here.

Not sure I'm allowed to recommend books through Amy's segment, but here's me trying. You guys have been talking about what happens at the hospital when you lose a body part. I could explain, but why not make this an educational moment? The book, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lack, is an awesome investigative journalism-style book about the woman that Hela calls H-E-L-O-H-L-A cells come from. So H-E-L-A, like, and the H- and the E, I'm sorry, the H and the L are capitalized.

So H-L-O-O-L-C-S come from. Not H-L-A from, like, Thor. Thor, yeah, no, I'm like, okay, like, I'm, I got a, I got to need. I need a dictionary just for an email from Nikki, because, like, she knows so much more about this stuff than I do. It's amazing. That would make, you know what? If you found one, that'd make you hella smart.

Anyway, continue. Oh, gosh. Anyway, take your way for it. It has a whole chapter about the legal gray zone around body parts once they're no longer attached to you. Happy reading, Nikki. Oh, my Lord. Wow.

Okay. Thank you, Nikki. That's interesting. And I've never read it. So I, you got me, I'll, I'll, didn't we, didn't we also have a, we had a whole other, was it with Bobby or somebody about what, the laws pertaining to who, whether you own your body parts after they've been taken off, like if someone takes off your foot, do you get to keep it at the doctor or do you, or is that now the, you know, it's now medical waste that belongs to the, uh, the hospital. Right, right, right. That's interesting. Okay. Well, this is good to hear from her on this point. Oh, and dreadnecks in the chat says. He loves that book.

She is responsible for so many cells that we do research on. So, hey, it's worth checking out, I guess. And she invented the bookcase that you can get at IKEA. Well, her and Billy. Yeah, it sounds exactly right. Yeah, Billy is the bookcase. She's the cubbyhole system is the lax. Sure, sure.

Calax. Calax, yeah. My office is full of Calax bookshel. I love them. Love them. Oh, you know what you need. Oh, I'll tell you off it. Well, I'll tell you at some point, but this thing, they're called lax racks.

And if you store board games in them, which is a great use for those calax shelves, these things make it so that you don't need to like lift up all of the games and possibly turn them on their sides. And that sort of thing is you pull out the game you want that's on the bottom. They're little dowels that stick to the sides of the cubbies. And then you can just, oh, just pull out the game you want. no other thing necessary. Oh, I do need that. I back those guys on Kickstarter and I just got mine and they are fantastic.

I can't wait to start plopping them in. I need to get some of this business. This is partly what I'm trying to reorganize as things like this. This would be perfect for me. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to use enough for board games, but for all my, like the DJ equipment that I used to do the show that's all shoved in this cubby right here to my right. And when you were spinning the hits back.

that's right that's called lax rax lax r a x r a x is the name of it very nice i love this idea well awesome okay so um and real quick scott i have a i have a possible other wrinkle to add uh that might provide some insight into your dream oh give it oh let's hear it tweeted yeah i think either this morning or yesterday you know i saw it this morning you tweeted that it's been a couple days since you've drawn anything oh yeah that's true that could be i wondered about And I'm glad you brought that up because I've had this like, when I don't, when I go two, three days without drawing anything, whether it's digital or paper or whatever, I always just feel kind of bad. Like, why am I not doing it? Like, there's a creative part of me that isn't like pumping out something and it just doesn't feel right.

And so that's a good point. Maybe I was just like feeling pencily, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like your, your brain misses your, your apple pencil. Yeah. That's a fair point. All right.

See, look, we've come, we've done it. We've dissected it. Apple pencil phantom phantom pencil syndrome. There you go. Pencil syndrome. I had that happen with paper this week. I was drawn something for, I don't know what. And I tried to pinch and zoom.

It was so embarrassing. I did. I went to the paper with my finger and went, oh, no, no, no. You can't do that. And no one was there to see me, but I was embarrassed anyway. It was so dumb. Anyway. All right.

I do that all the time. It's really funny. Sure. Okay. So, well, let's, let's move on into today's book. But the only introduction I have for the clip I give you is that this is from another of the suggestions that I got from all the folks that, uh, is that like the other half of the cryptid you. Sorry, that's the, so the the cryptid new, New Judean, Brian here. I'll put a new, I just found this. Yeah, give me a new cryptid. So the new cryptid, this is the hot new cryptid. Please, I hope it's from the back. I hope it's the one you shen.

No, I wish. I wish. Oh, geez. So this is what they think it would realistically look like in the water. And all the other drawings I can find are this elongated sort of salamander, blind salamander-looking thing. This one has arms, but no legs. The other one is just legs in a head. Oh, it's legs for days, that guy, for sure. Yeah. But then you got a little man for scale, see, up there in the corner. Oh, is that with that little scuba diver going, shit.

Yeah. Oh, shit. I was here for a whale. What the hell is this? Awfully sweary today. I apologize for being so sweary today. Oh, we're going to have, look, the FCC will be in contact with you. You'll be in trouble.

Don't worry about it. Nice, excellent. Geez, Brian. Sorry. All right. Sorry. So where were we? Clip.

Oh, yeah, clip. So this came from the, one of the list of suggestions I got from the survey that people very kindly filled out for me last year. And so somebody suggested a cookbook. So this is my suggestion for that. Nice. Here we go. We saved up for seven months and navigated a labyrinthine reservation system to secure a table. When the day finally arrived, we went to the bank and exchanged.

the shoebox of quarters and dollar bills for two crisp hundred dollar bills and two-twenties, dressed up in our nicest outfits, and zoomed over in his classic convertible VW Beetle, ready to eat. The meal, of course, was spectacular. We ate Friseo Lardonne, halibate in broth, and guinea hen with tiny chanticle mushrooms. I'd never eaten any of those things before. Desert was chocolate souffle. When the server brought it to us, she showed me how to poke a hole in the top with my dessert spoon and then pour in the accompanying raspberry sauce. She watched me take my first bite, and I ecstatically told her it tasted like a warm chocolate cloud. The only thing, in fact, that I could imagine might improve the experience was a glass

of cold milk. What I didn't know, because I was inexperienced in the ways of fancy food, was that for many gourmans, the thought of consuming milk after breakfast is childish at best, revolting at worst. But I was naive, though I still contend that there's nothing like a glass of cold milk with a warm brownie at any time of day or night. And in that naivete, she saw sweetness. The server returned a few minutes later

with a glass of cold milk and two glasses of dessert wine, the refined accompaniment to our souffle. And so began my professional culinary education. Oh, wow. She's making me hungry. Also, a warm chocolate cloud was my wrestling name for about five years.

I mean, brownies, chocolate milk, or I mean, brownies, chocolate chip cookies, I think with milk any day, any time of day, I'm with her. I agree. Yeah, that sounds fantastic. Sounds good right now. Let's do it. All right. So tell me about, so you sent me a bunch of illustrations as well.

These are amazing. These are so cool. Is this all in this book? It's like, all in this book. This book is salt, fat. Acid Heat by Samin Nosrat. And yeah, it's fantastic. And yes, if that sounds familiar, it is, this is the same person who did the Netflix short series called, of the same name, Salt, Fat, Acid Heat.

I definitely, definitely recommend both the book and the series. Samin is, she is obviously very well versed in all things food. She trained at Sheepenice, which is, you know, if those of you who know, I didn't know, I'd never heard of it before. But apparently it's like super famous fancy restaurant. And so she's very, very knowledgeable about food, but she makes it accessible. Like you hear, she's like, oh, even though I'm, you know, a big fancy chef now, I still contend there's nothing better than a brownie and milk, you know, like. sure so you know super highfalutin she's able to i like that with the little people like us brian the little people like us yeah the low folk who uh don't know anything about any of this

yeah and and the book is great these uh it is illustrated uh shoot i had it up and now i can't find it hold on the most charming little uh combination of ink and watercolor uh sort of illustrations are wonderful yeah they're beautiful and uh oh so the art is by wendy McNaughton. But, you know, then the book is completely written by Samin. And it's, it's just really great. It's a, it teaches you about the science of food and, and like, why all these things are important. Why, you know, salt, fat, acid, and heat, why those things are important to the foods you eat, how they affect the flavors and the textures. And in a, you know, But in an accessible way, and it's all fascinating and really interesting, even if you're not at all a cook.

Because I am, I am not. Like, you know, I'm of, you know, if you take like Scott and Kim, like, I am the Scott of my house. Like, and Chuck is the Kim. So, like, you know, I can, I can throw some things together. But mostly, like, if he's gone, if it's just me in the house, I'm eating like a fried egg sandwich or something. Like, I'm eating, you know what I mean? Go to the egg. The egg will always solve your problem.

I'm telling you. That's the way you do it when you're me. And also, condolences for being the me in the relationship because that's... I'll send you a doggarito recipe. I'm looking at the... This looks like when you'd at least want to get the Kindle version of so you can see the illustrations. Because I'm looking at the hardbacked version on Amazon and looking at the what's inside. And seeing like the different salt structure.

I mean, this is so cool. I would, you know, I love listening to stuff like this, but I feel like watching this or reading it and seeing these illustrations is even better. Did we give them the full name? We did, right? Did we give them the full name? Yes. Salt fat acid heat. There it is.

Salt fat acid heat. And it is the same name as the show. Mastering the elements of good cooking is the additional, the subtitle, I guess. And I know Kim watched that series that you mentioned on Netflix hardcore. She loved it. So this might be a good gift. idea for me to get her. It would be because she would definitely enjoy reading this book.

It's a, you know, it's, it's quick to read, but it's, and it's also, like I say, it's, it's, it gives you her story, but, you know, there's also recipes in there. I mean, it's a cookbook, but it's not just it's, it's, it reads well and it gives you, it gives you just such a rich understanding of, you know, you think of the word fat. And it's like, oh, yeah, there's fat in our food. yes, that's what kind of gives it the flavor or, you know, most people kind of know that. But what are the different types of fats and how do they interact with your food and why is it important? Why is it important to not just like cut out all the fat entirely and, you know,

all that kind of stuff? Like it's, it's great. It's, I, I really, really enjoy it. And I love watching cooking stuff. I just, it's never been like a, it's never been a thing I've been super interested in. I get creative in other ways, but like, yeah, I find, I find this stuff in endlessly fascinating the science of food. I am literally, nobody tell Kim. She's like, she can't hear me. I'm buying this hard book for her today. She'll be stoked because she loves this kind of crap and I don't know why. I'm very bad at like paying attention when someone hints at things Kim would like to do. So like they'll say, oh, you know, your wife sure likes that thing. And I go, yeah she sure does anyway let's uh we keep moving and then i forget so today i'm even worse i say

oh that'd be a really good gift idea for them and then i promptly forget and then you forget yeah that's a little bit how i feel about it so today no you're not getting me today bad memory i'm doing it now all right it's already it's coming here yeah see that's a great way to do it i actually i have a google keep list of things like that like and i do it for myself also because i don't know if you guys do this it comes around the holidays come around and my mom and you know all my relatives and stuff they call me they go what do you want for christmas i'm like i don't freaking know like i like everything i've spent the whole year going oh i want that i want that i want that and then people ask me and i'm like nothing i don't know uh so i keep a list uh you know in google keep i where you know stuff to say i want

for christmas and uh you know but then i keep one for other people also like i have on my list right now I try to remember my niece wants a, my niece, what's on there, it says, my niece wants a bougie picnic basket. A bougie picnic? What even is that? I don't even know what that is. It's like, you know, there's like the picnic baskets that have

the little, the little hinged lids on top. Yeah, it opens up like our old art boxes, Scott, where like a little layer of like, all right, here's all your silverware and here's a thing for condiments and a little napkin thing. I didn't realize that was even a thing you could get. That's interesting. Oh, I used to love.

having that for our, like, it basically is a fishing tackle box, but I'd love those things. The fact like it would open up, two little sides would open up, if you'd have all your pencils and, yeah, keep things organized. Missed doing that. A wad of that flexible eraser garbage that just seemed to get blacker and blacker and blacker.

It was called, uh, need eraser. Needed erasers, that's what it was. Need erasers. Oh, yeah. With a K-N-E-A-D. Oh, man. That's the memories right there. Yeah, right there. Takes me back. Holy shit. Anyway, well, that's great. This book sounds great. I'm now going to see it for myself today at 2 o'clock, I guess it gets here. So that was nice. Oh, wow. Did you do hardcover? I did hardcover and there's a, I guess it's at our local Amazon distribution thing. So it'll be here today with no extra charge.

You never did you get the package I sent you, did you? Never came. No. You know what? No. I never did get here. Wait, did it? Not the hats. I got the hats. No, the hats you got. Yeah, the bull. It never got there. Did you ever, do you have tracking? Did we know where it is? So, yeah, the tracking says that the post office never got it, which is bullshit because I put it in my mailbox and my mail carrier picked it up, but they just didn't scan it in. So it's just gone.

Liars. Liars. Ah, that sucks because that's a thing you handmaid and it's not like you can just reproduce that like nothing, you know. That's lame. Oh, well, well, I'll make you something. It'll be better. That's all. Claire says she's just how it has to be. Claire doesn't think there are any local bookstores in Salt Lake City.

There are a ton of them, but I'm lazy and I want it brought to me. Okay. If he could dooredash a book from the local bookstore, then he totally would. Yeah, but I'm a lazy bum, and that's how it works. I do support them, Claire, when I get a chance. I just am not going today, all right? I support it. I was absolutely supportive for my comic books and my graphic novels.

Yeah, I go on there all the time. We love our local bookstores. But in this case, no, okay? Hey, while she all caps yells at me in the chat, I want to thank Amy for hanging out with us. This is a great recommendation today. And if you've got suggestions, emails, thoughts, comments, or Nikki, if you have any sort of additional stuff you want to say to us,

keep those emails coming because we're happy to pass them on. And let me, Amy know what's up. She's also very active on our Discord. So join us over there at frogpans.com slash Discord. And you can, there's a whole read this section in there. Yeah. And I started, in case anybody wants to, if anybody wants to go in there and, you know, just discuss different books, like almost like you would do at a book club or something, but on Discord. I started a thread for the Encyclopedia Fairies, which is the book I talked about last week because I loved it. And I was like, I want to talk about me books like that. You want to talk about, feel free. Start a thread in there and go to go to town. Nice. Great idea.

And I put links to both of the books we talked about today, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks and Salt Fat, Acid, Heat on quickt-MS. That's very, very nice. Amy, it's always good having you on, Red Fragel 3, wherever you find her. Have a fantastic week, and we'll see you next time. You too, bye. Bye now. Oh, I'm in the wrong place to kill the call.

Hold on. She's out of here now. I knew we'd get there. I knew we'd get there. I knew we'd get there. all right you guys uh we're here to inform i mean where else you're going to get your news your late breaking news uh it is the news and it's brought to you by our friends at that story show podcast they're sponsoring a comedy story contest where you can win 50 bucks 50 hard-earned bucks i can't

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We thought we did. Like a lot of us just think we did. It wasn't Henry Ford? It wasn't Henry Ford. I just invented the assembly line process of making automobiles, right? He did. That was really what he did. He did.

But like a lot of times, look, I love my country, but here in America, sometimes we co-op people's stuff. Sure. You know, sure. What we do. It's the Benz, B-E-N-Z, which was in Europe, it was German. And I don't know if it's tied to Mercedes-Benz. I don't know. I didn't look all that deep, but that car is in a museum and you can see it, and it was the very first car, and it beats it by some years.

And we take credit for it. It's kind of like how everyone thinks Philo Farnsworth, who grew up out here in Beaver, Utah, was the creator of the inventor of the television. And he technically in the States he was, but it was already done and developed somewhere else. So that's what we'd like to do here. He invented television programming without which the television would be useful. That's right. He did the shadow puppetry. You saw that commercial during the Super Bowl with Dave Grawl,

thanking Canada for all their inventions, all the things that they invented. Oh, no, I missed that one, I think. Oh, that was, that was, you know, maybe not the funniest commercial, although it really did have its funny moments, but it was one of the best commercials. It's like, oh, wow, Canada invented that?

That came from Canada? It was, it blew my mind. Like, he listed off 14 things that Canada invented. And I was like, wow, okay, I did not realize so many of these things came from Canada. I had no idea. I should go look that up. I didn't see it. I saw a cool thing with him yesterday.

He just showed up at a homeless mission in L.A. And he had his giant, he has a huge smoker barbecue thing that's like tied to a trailer. And then like a bunch of trucks and a handful of friends. He just shows up. And for the next 16 hours, just does barbecue for homeless people and then leaves. Wow. And he didn't say anything. He's just like, hey, we'd love to help today.

Can we do that? And they're like, yep, he didn't say anything to anybody. He weren't any press around. It's just Dave Grohl doing a nice thing. And I freaking thought that was awesome. He's a good guy. It's like Guy Fiery without all of the human bumper stickers and accessories. Yeah.

It's like he can get through an airport security thing without having to take everything off. Exactly. Anyway, Dave Grohl. He's a national treasure. He is a national treasure. So future, this has nothing to do with anything except Ford. That's what made me think of it. Gotcha.

Future Ford's, Ford Motorcars, that is, could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss your payments, yep. I love this. Yeah, this is the way of the future. Let's see. Average car payments have been rising for a while, although auto loan delinquency rates have been down since the height of the pandemic. Ford applied for a patent to make the repossession process go smoother, right to the bank, that is. The patent document was submitted to the United States Patent Office in August 2021. but was formerly published February 23rd, just here recently, last couple of days.

It's titled Systems and Methods to Repossess a Vehicle, Unquote. It describes several ways to make the life of somebody who has missed several car payments harder. Stra also reminds me of a TikTok channel I follow where a guy is a repossessor, a truck driver guy. His entire job is to pull up to a parked car somewhere in a parking lot that's known to be delinquent in their payments. Yeah. they have these crazy tractor tool things in the back of their truck to take a car no matter where it is or how it's parked really okay and it's wild because it's like a GoPro on the back of this hitch and he speeds it up so it's faster but you see him like as using it with music

he'll pull up to a car and it doesn't even have to get out this thing goes underneath and grabs it in a certain way oh yeah that's awesome and then it pulls away and then you always see somebody in the store running out swinging their fist damn it did my car it's an amazing channel i wish i knew the name oh that's fantastic wow so it it uh feels almost like this is less repossession and just more possession possession yeah it's the car is possessed i would be i would be skeptical i don't know dude like let's say there are a lot of car techs now that it kind of you know when they foul up we hear about them if a if a tesla's auto pilot thing screws up and veers into a wall we hear about it yeah yeah what's to stop this thing

from you being out there, there's a glitch in the system, you're driving your hot date downtown for the play, and then suddenly the car goes, taking control, it goes the other way, and parks at a freaking repo center, like, what the frick? I don't want that. Well, you're, you know, you're, uh, you've got your baby in the back, you're getting out of the car to go get in the front seat, and then all of a sudden and says, nope, you're delinquent, and starts driving off with your baby inside. Yeah.

Oh my gosh, I didn't think about that. Yeah. Or those things that could happen with this, even this deal. Dude, I follow on TikTok. I wonder if he's ever had anyone in the car when he's done it. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I imagine somebody would be, it's not like you say, all right, I'm going to put my baby in the car. Then I'm going to go inside, get my grocery list together, and then get ready to go to the store.

Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know. People leave, like, their dogs and cars. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I say that, you know, knowing full well that there's plenty of irresponsible A-holes out there. Yeah, they exist. But, I don't know, it's fascinating to me. So the idea here is they want to, they want to make it. According to this patent, anyway, the idea would be vehicles with full autonomy, which is what everyone seems to be aiming for.

That means they can drive on their own. You'll just sit back and read a book, whatever. That is what they think the future is. I'm not so sure these days, but I think that's what people think it is. And all of that stuff is course optional. If you want to take control and drive, you don't need autopilot. You can just drive. But in this case, this is like, well, you're behind a payment.

You're screwed. and you might be taking a ride with the car I mean what about just self-locking to where you can't open the car up with the locks couldn't that be enough rather than than this whole thing oh that's not bad

yeah that's not bad just have the car lock itself down and that sort of thing and then it stays where it's at and then the guy with the truck isn't out of a job he still has to go repossess right exactly you know what baby steps Brian's right let's go that direction I like it

I'm, and I'm fully, I still stay fully committed to the fact that within 10 years, um, lift an Uber, uh, will be, will be completely, if not, if not mostly, or I'll flip that, mostly, if not completely driverless vehicles. I agree. I agree. I think both those companies, well, we already know they're investing in driverless stuff, because they see the writing on the wall. They know it's not going to be people.

And they have some in Vegas that are driverless, so. Yeah. I want to try one of those kind of. How much does that cost you? get in there. It's the same, it's the same thing. And you, you basically, when this happened us in Vegas, it was Lyft, and it said, are you okay with getting a driverless car? Because that's what we have closest. Yeah. And even though it was a driverless car, there was still somebody sitting behind the wheel, and there was somebody in the passenger seat who was kind of talking

things through to tell us what was going on and, you know, show. Here's the screen. You can see It was really cool It was like Terminator HUD Where it was showing Here's it figuring out the stoplight You're almost seeing you're like seeing a video of what the car sees And it's like here's five people walking the crosswalk And it's like squares over their heads to show that it recognizes these are people

And then a little square over the red light To show that he's waiting for the red light to change And then like other cars and things like that And it's really really cool to see like all the little calculations this thing is figuring out. The big problem that they've had two big problems is that their system doesn't work as well with darker-skinned individuals.

So it's bad, it's black people, that sort of thing. And Jaywalkers, because for whatever reason, even though we use it all the time, apparently these driverless cars can identify crosswalks, even though our captions make us believe that they can't. But J-Walkers, they don't know what to do with J-Walkers, so that kind of freaks them out as well. That makes sense. Plus, I think currently, if you have this in your cities, the law is they have to be accompanied by humans for now.

We're not to the place yet where they can go, you know, empty, just a robot. But I look forward to those days. I have no problem with this coming part of our future. I think it's fine. Whatever. I'm okay with it. It's, you know, but you guys. to kind of look at it too from your point of view of the artist who's seeing stuff like mid journey

and writers who are seeing chat gpt and all this stuff like there are people out there whose whose job it is to drive people around not necessarily lift an uber but uh taxi drivers and and chauffeurs and bus drivers and all that yeah yeah it's like oh great another um another thing that the computers are are taking away from us the um the most recent this week tonight uh is fantastic talks all about all this AI stuff. Oh, I need to, I've not seen the latest. I'd like to see that. Yeah, it's really, really good.

Up and available now on HBO Max. It is, and I'll point everybody to one of my favorite songs, actually one of my favorite bands and one of my favorite songs by that band, the Divine Comedy, and a song called You'll Never Work in This Town Again, which sounds like a threat that somebody makes to, you know, somebody in Hollywood who screws up. But really, it's more about these people who are like, oh, I'm making all this AI to eventually accidentally make my job obsolete. Yeah.

And you'll never work in this town again more as like the problem caused by all this. It's great. It's like it looks like the opening for Madman. It's so good. It's going to get weird, everybody. It is going to get weird. Things are going to get weird. All right.

Final story. Yes. A missing adventurer. Okay. A father of three. Everyone didn't know what happened. He was out doing adventure. he showed up finally in a shark's stomach oh oh no they found him they found me marty they found me marty

i don't know how they did but they found me oh father of three an accident in his quad bike while riding on a beach in argentina has turned up inside a stomach of a shark Diego barina age 32 he was a father of three that kept pointing that out to make his feel bad was last seen riding his Yamaha raptor off-road buggy along the stretch of the coastline he then disappeared his wife virginia posted desperate messages trying to figure out where the heck he was. Two days later, his damaged all-terrain vehicle and helmet were found in the beach near Rokas-C-C-L-A-R-R-A-R-R-A-R-R-A-S.

Yeah, Rokas-C-A-R-A-R-A-S. Colored rocks. Colored rocks. I don't know if Rok-A-R-A-S is rocks. Oh. R-O-C-C-A-S, maybe. Yeah, it might be, rock. Yeah. So what they think happened.

So then these other, separately, local dudes were out fishing and they hauled in three sharks out of the sea. I'm not even sure that's legal But whatever One of them They went to prepare and clean up And cut up and all that

And they found the dude in there Oh geez He was a dude They found Oh my God They found the They recognized them Or figured out who it was

Based on the tattoo Rose tattoo on his arm Oh man That'd suck Jeez But here's the question That I'm left with And the one that I will take

To my bed tonight And therefore dream about Okay Did he dry Did he did he did he drive into the ocean and did the shark get him from that? Did the shark jump out and grab him and pull him back in? Did he die on the beach and then the tide came in and then the shark got like,

I want to know that and they don't know that. They don't have any info on that. Yeah, I mean, sharks, they can get onto the beach, they can kind of get close, but they can't really like crawl up on the beach, eat somebody, and then crawl back, crawl back in the water. So my guess is he was, he got off his raptor, got into the water a little bit to cool off after some, you know, some exciting buggy action. Yeah. And then got et by the shark.

That was probably it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'd love for it to be a much more exciting, exciting story, but I'm guessing that was, it's something as simple as, got off the bike, got in the water, got it. Yep. maybe don't do that everybody be careful around these sharks will you Argentine sharks there they don't mess around all right we're going to take a break when we get back here my sister Wendy will be here we're going to talk about all that trigger stuff from last week okay yeah that's right we got all those

listener submissions right of triggers a ton of them sweet sweet had a really hard time moving them from Discord to Wendy because you can't it turns out you can't easily she has having our time getting into the server so I'm like well maybe I'll just copy these out make a PDF for her oh there you go that doesn't work very well because if you copy the entirety of a thread, it doesn't move it. Either Windows or Mac doesn't matter. I try to number both.

It doesn't move the text. It won't copy the text out of that Discord thread. I don't know if that's like a security thing on Discord side or something, but I could copy and paste individual messages, but to do that for that thread, would it take me all night. So finally,

I just captured screen grabs and sent her 10 pages of screen grabs. And it's really like being my mom, really, is what I did. Yeah, I know. was my mom. She's, you know, he's like, oh, great, I have to do tech support with her. So it's, you know, another reason. Yep. Yep. Get out of Minneapolis, get out of Minnesota and come back. Come back to Utah. We need you.

Yeah. All right. That'll do it for that, though. We'll be back with her in a second. But we need a song here at the mid-show. What do you got there, Brian? Okay. Well, I've got one for you. Another thing that Canadians invented is a band called Debt Cemetery. They're from Toronto. And courtesy of Thousand Island Records, They have a brand new song. Listen, if you've been a bitch in a whole week, that, Brain, you're only picking these, like,

indie pop, female-friended sweet songs, me. I'm sure somebody out there is exactly triggered by that. Maybe you're triggered by that. Now we know their trigger. Geez. All right. Well, let's get to some Toronto punk rock.

Here is Dead Cemetery. And a brand new song that's fantastic called Let's My Lord. All right. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. Why can't we just see? Why do I?

Everyone has a hidden right No one should trouble to survive this life There's selfish freedom to justify We see the Destruction, Corruption Distraction Disgusting And mistrusting of everything

No justice No fucking piece Of history Wash away but not to father We keep repeating That shouldn't bear Now we're hanging off the end And if you don't know how to spin

Then just take my hand And we'll jump in without a safety day We're only halfway there Halfway to happiness So watch your step before you start to lose your breath Ask your future selves Hey, where have you been We've been waiting for you on the sinking ship

I can't take me in any voice They keep saying that we're running out of time Why they try to run our lives But that's not for them to decide Swallow what's fucked off your pride Put your differences aside Take a look with it all behind Let's stop pretending

That everything's okay When we know it's not We've got to fight And take us in Against our head And in the street That fuels are made No justice

No fucking pieces of history Locked away until we find a We to our humanity It's lost and never so far out of reach And we're still hanging off the edge So if you don't know her They just take my head If we'll jump in without a safety death

For almost halfway by Halfway to happiness Not steer to face what lies ahead How much longer can you hold her bed Because we'll be waiting here A while on the sinking ship Video game makers believe that their products are starting to attract a whole new market, adults, especially women, who would not have been caught dead playing pinball. I like the brutal, gross, murdery stuff.

A bounty hunter named Shit. I don't know why I even use that one. Sorry, hey, who was that again? That sounded real good. I'm too, I'm too thrown by hearing a clip from Monica's video dating recording. Yeah, this was her just trying to,

just saw her on, not Grindr, on Tinder. She was on Tinder, and her Tinder message was a little rough, yeah. Yeah, a little rough. All right, so that was debt, Debt Cemetery, D-E-B-T Cemetery. You got to spell that with two E's and a nay, folks. A brand-new song called Let's Murderize Them.

That's a brand-new single from those Toronto punks. Nice. It sounds pretty good. Well done, Canada. You've once again surprised us with your depth and your breadth in Canada. Yes. It's not just gravy and potatoes. It's not just cheese curds.

It's much more. Those Canadians. Canada! All right. I'm really just killing. time because Wendy's not answering. Let's see. I know. Yeah, it's well done. I appreciate you doing that. I think it was good. I think she's almost

here, though. Okay, that says stop ringing. I don't want to do that. Let's keep ringing. Keep ringing. Keep on ringing. Oh, we lost her. Let's try it again. I'll bet this is the magic right here. I bet this is where she picks up. We're waiting. We get the rings of ringage, as Darrell would say. But not the rings of speakage. No, that's a very different thing.

Yeah. I'm sure it's coming, though. I thought of Daryl the other day because I have two lightsaber replicas, or not lightsaber, uh, sorry, phaser. Oh, phaser replicas, okay. Yeah, zert, zert, that whole thing. Yeah, yes. And, um, here's what's hilarious about him. He, so one of them I got from a fan that was just like an actual, uh, official branded one.

And then I got Daryl's that he made. His is so much better. It's like a trillion times nicer and better made. Yeah, mine, mine's hanging there on the wall red and, my Captain America Shield, and it's a great one. It's great, right? I don't freaking love that thing. All right.

I got to expand my weapon collection because I've got Thor's Hammer, Captain America's Shield, a phaser, the element guns from Star Lord, and then a, what was the Nintendo hand? Oh, the glove? The power glove? The power glove, thank you. Yeah, I need one of those. Dang it.

Yeah, they're expensive on eBay. Hey, my very patient sister and third. therapist Wendy is on the line. Hi, Wendy. Do you like hearing about all our toy guns and things? You like that? What does it say about us? So we need so many toy guns. Yeah, what does that say about us? I wonder, that's a whole different topic. What does that say? A little bit fishy. The industrial military complex is built on this question. That's true. But none of them are cool lasers and gauntlets and, you know, lightsabers and stuff. Hey, it's good to have you here. We're, we're, uh, I wanted to give you a quick update.

we hung out with mom and uh you didn't hear this i'm gonna interrupt for one second doorbells ringing so keep going on that i'm gonna go grab whatever you got answer the doorbell so i go we go over there brian's heard this anyway um and uh it's all good mom's doing great she's super super sharp all i don't know what john's talking about half the time he's always saying how she's oh your mom you're mom i'm like i don't know john every time around her she seems to be doing fine you're grumpy i don't know what your deal is anyway so we're over there and we're hanging out and we're talking we brought her tacos because she loves Taco Bell tacos and never gets to have them because John won't let her.

So we always do that, partly because I know it bugs him. But anyway, we bring them over. We give Mom these tacos. She's super stoked. He gives me the side of eye like, I don't like those tacos, you know, because he won't eat anything but Italian anyway. That's just his deal. So we're there.

And this at one point in the chat and everybody's heard this already. But at one point, mom, we were talking about tattoos because Carter's got these cool. got a cool tattoo while she was in Iceland, a little Icelandic symbol thing. And they were asking about it. Is it the little donuts that are all twisty? No, but it was something, I can't remember it has a name.

And I think the reason she didn't do, because there's some really cool Norwegian symbology that you can do. But a lot of it's been co-opted. Icelandic or Swedish or all sorts of that. Scandinavian in general. And the problem is a lot of that's been co-opted by like, you know, hate groups and Nazis and junk like that.

So you have to be careful about which ones you get. So hers is a very neutral. But anyway, my mom's there and she says, oh, I just love tattoos. And I remember thinking, you know, when a basketball team had come out for the NBA and you'd see all these basketball players. You'd always see these ones with all the whole arm done, the whole sleeve. But it's really hard to see on the blacks, she'd say. And I thought, Mom. Oh, great.

I know you're not racist. Okay. and this isn't even you you know she's not being she's not being anything she's just saying yeah but she says because she's old and this is what you say but I I tried to think how I how she should have said it and I think it should have been like um I don't know it's harder to see what do you say it's just harder it's harder to see on black people would you say that or is that just weird do you have to say anything see that's the other option don't say anything exactly because Who cares?

Like, it doesn't matter anyway. And then John was all like, I don't know why you got a tattoo. Like, he's got his whole thing about tattoos. He's like tattoos back in my day or in the 70s. If you had a tattoo, that meant you were done. That was it. You weren't going to do anything in life. Like, all right.

Well, it's not like that now, John. Enjoy your knot tacos that you're eating over. Moving on. Anyway, perfect timing because Brian just got back and we're now going to move to today's thing. So I hope all that stuff I say it makes sense. Hold on. Hold on. Everyone. Scott just set that out perfectly by being triggered.

Mm. Yeah, I did get tried. I got triggered. Bing! It's a trigger. This was the... And Brian was triggered by a doorbell. I was triggered by a doorbell.

And a signature that I had to give the FedEx guy. But you know what? A doorbell and a signature has a practical outcome. See? You actually got a package for your triggering. I get nothing for mine. Nothing. Which is probably a good theme because a lot of times triggers do yield us nothing.

but did you were able to make sense all the stuff I say you did it all make you know those all the little images yeah it's crazy there's a lot of them and I don't know which one to pick I know there's a lot and there's a lot of replies and there's a lot of just fluff in there but well we're not leaving until you reply to each and every one of the ones that's got sent you sit here and you will but overall I mean we got to we got to do an overall first here right like kind of yeah yeah yeah let's talk about it overall first so so what we did right is we asked everyone, send in what triggers you. And yes, the word trigger is way overused.

But it really is a good, I mean, give me a different word. Is that off? Switch flipped? I don't know, right? A trigger is pulled and a reaction occurs. And the question is, what in the world? Why is that a thing? And then what does it actually mean and what do we do with it versus what I think

a lot of people just do is, you know, mock anyone who's triggered. Right. Like, that's been the, like, a clap back to it. It's been used pretty loosely over the last few years, I would say. People like to just say, well, if your reaction is anything other than agreement, then you're triggered, I guess. I don't know. Yeah.

And it's one that, and it's one that people like to throw out accusations to and say, oh, well, sorry, didn't mean to trigger the left or trigger the woke mafia or anything like that. Yeah, all that crap. freaking the word if I it's fine if Brian says it but if I hear anyone say you know what triggers me the word woke there you go triggers me yeah yeah both sides I don't care which sides you're on I don't care who says the word I'm 100% with you it's so meaningless and stupid and I hate it okay I'm triggered anyway somebody posted a video so we got Scott and mine too that one triggers me too yeah it gets Brian you sound smiley when you say it your trigger sounds like it's like all right

Brian smiles when he triggers. I'm always smiling. Smiling is my bullet that goes along with my trigger, basically. That's right. Pull my trigger, you get my smile. Bless your heart. Love it. Love it.

You're a southern mom. Okay. All right. Well, okay. So the overarching thing here is like, let's actually talk about what's happening to someone's body when they're triggered. Because here's the thing, anyone who mocks other people's trigger is trigger. like it's it's it's one of those uh you know it's ubiquitous it's a human response and people handle like any other human you know experiences they handle it in different ways right

but let's just talk about what is happening physiologically to someone when they are being triggered so if we can scan your little brain at the exact same time i say woke yeah Scott what am i going to see like what happens to your body i tense up uh i can feel the difference in like my overall body tense rating so muscles are constricting I'm a little bit like stiff you know my neck is especially tight and I am either I am mentally I'm either in the mood to just go at it verbally or to go away the one of those two extremes I don't want to discuss this BS with anybody. And it's kind of the same problem with the trigger definition you gave earlier. It works with woke as well. If somebody says woke, what that tells me is that

they are, they are actually saying they're the woke ones because they see another group that they call woke. And they've assigned whatever meaning to that, it just means, it just is meaningless. And so for me, it's usually like I need to get away from whoever this is. And usually it's not people in person, but I've had friends say it in conversation. It's like all this woke culture. And I went, oh, don't say that, dude. And he's like, what? And I go, I just freaking hate that word.

We don't even get into what his actual problems are because it doesn't matter to me. It's just such. Yeah, it shuts you down. It's like an immediate, like, I am going to disregard everything that you say after that word because I'm so tired of hearing that being used. Yeah. To me, it's like, it's a repetition problem. So I am tired of it being used. That's absolutely one of them.

The other thing is I just think it's a crutch. it's a throwaway word it's it's what do you call it uh when you boil something down to something that's too simple you've not diminished oh yeah interesting like uh you've simplified or not simplified over simplify reduction reductive reductive that's it reductive you've been it's the ultimate in reductive which people love to do they love single words that cover a big blankety thing that's way more nuanced than that can't do it man can't freaking do it yeah so okay you get so like someone says oh this woke or I'm trying to think of someone who uses it not in an annoying way is that possible I don't think it's possible I can't I can't think of an example I woke up this morning ha ha oh there you go yeah you woke up okay okay look at me so context matters context matters which includes someone's body language their tone the sentence structure right yeah um I just had a very fun conversation with a guy from France,

and we were talking about how easy it is to say something in another language. Like he was obviously speaking English to me and saying like, and I'm missing all the nuance I feel. I cannot convey it, right? And there is something, when you've done that with two languages, you get it on a level and there's a humility to that experience that when you are all speaking the same language, you're just like, oh, I know exactly what you. you mean and you don't usually right yeah but it's because we need facial expressions body language

context tone all those different things and sometimes you know we're missing them especially in online life but just this idea of like i have a response to this but it's from a past experience not from you right this minute but also i'm getting the vibe because you dropped your voice and acted like are we friends here let's talk about woke culture you know like you're someone's trying to commiserate with you. And if they did it around a topic you liked, you'd be like, wait, let's talk about it. But when they hit the wrong note, your whole system is doing,

and you described it perfectly, Scott. You said, I either want to get out of there or I'm ready to go at it. So in, you know, psychology parlance, that's the fight or flight response. Oh, yeah, literally that's fight or flight, isn't it? Yeah, wow. Yeah, it is. And some people might have a freeze response. I was just like, oh, I can't talk.

I can't go there. And then others, you know, might use diplomacy suddenly. That's another fight or flight. Somehow finding that, yeah. You're like, okay, anyway. So anyway, so you are physiologically in a state to run away or fight and you're supposed to just be having a normal conversation at lunch with somebody. Yeah.

So let's just honor for a moment how weird that is that a word can do that. That's crazy. Right. And yet, that is what every trigger is, in essence. It is a button that can be pushed and then gives you an entire, changes your body chemistry. So I'm looking at this list and it's most people are describing like, my shoulders are up to my ears and my heart's racing and I'm ready,

you know, everyone is having a physiological response. So this is where getting curious about what the heck does the word woke mean to you and why is this so bothersome, you know, and we can pick a different example or pick one of these examples, but like what is going on, you know, what's the actual story behind it? Because it has to be a story. When I say, I woke up this morning, it does not trigger you. But if I say, let's talk about woke culture or cancel culture or whatever, all these made-up concepts, then you have a response. Why? If it's the first time you heard the word, you wouldn't, but it's not. So then understanding the history that got you to this moment helps you understand why it triggers you. So we'll go back to our, you know, ancestors wandering around and hunting and gathering berries.

And a particular moment taught you that that was stupid, never do it again. You're going to die if you eat that red berry or you got so sick, you know, etc. Like you learned from very visceral experiences that trained you to have disgust as a response, right? And revulsion and stay away. And, oh, we got to fight. or I'm under threat, so I got a fighter flight. So let's take woke, Scott. We'll just take that for one more second,

and then we'll find one of these ones. What is threatening that your body has to go into fight or flight? Do you know? Yeah, it's that it's that blankety reductive quality to it because I know what they're about to say is going to just be surface level nothing. and it's a waste of time and it just

feels so freaking lazy and to me they're doing it they're knowingly doing that it's so I feel like being lied to that's why I don't like it because it just feels like you're putting yourself behind the easiest possible shield

and you don't really want to have a conversation you're not here to learn anything you're not here to hear to hear any other points of view you're here just to put a weird thing in the ground and go where what are you going to do about this like that's that's that's the whole thing around it that I just feel every time and I don't care who's saying it's intended and that's because you've had that that's because you've had that experience before yeah there is a repetition quality like Brian said before you get so sick of it but

part of that is is this a problem in other languages I wonder I always wonder this and I'm I don't know I'm not fluent in any other languages so I can't speak to this at all maybe others can somebody like Patrick who speaks seven he probably knows this better than anyone but um like are in French or in Spanish or other words or other languages, are there words that you're all sick of everyone using to just sum everything up, you know? Or is it just an English thing where we go woke and mega and another dumb thing we do? Like, you know, the biggest problem is, though, is we export those words. So that happened all the time in Swedish. Someone would say a word that is definitely an English word that has been spread.

through humanity, unfortunately, and they'd say, do you have this word in English? And I'd be like, that is an English word. No, I see. And it's probably the word woke, actually, because they're hearing and because they speak English and it's so ubiquitous in their culture. They add. So a lot of their slang words are Arabic words because they had a ton of migration and refugees from Arabic-speaking countries. So those words get put in the lingo. So, you know, you learn Swedish, but you got to learn a bunch of slang in Arabic and then of course English because especially used to be British English definitely way more American English now. But you know every YouTuber I mean you can hear a little Swedish kid running down the street going subscribe and subscribe below. Yeah.

Like my video. Like it's described. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Thank you. That's just some universe. One time. Yeah. Like I had my my driver's license or driver's plate whatever set. It was either I can't remember. Was it OMG or L. L-O-L, one of the two, and those are English-based words and acronyms, right? And I pull up to an intersection, I stop, and this kid walks across street, sees my car, points at it, and then does that Fortnite dance, like, right in front of me. And I was like, I'm missing something, but I also think it's related to Lull or whatever. Anyway, just that idea of, like, it gets spread, but every language has similar.

because you have to describe a phenomenon. Oh, this thing that's happening and some reaction to that thing or whatever, you know. And so human shortcut with language. So, yes, it's in it really. I just feel bad that we export our crap. And yeah. And so in that thinking, I mean, part of my problem is I am in a perpetual loop of, I've tried to break this recently and I think I've done a better job of it. But I'm in this perpetual loop of trying to engage with people.

I want to give them a chance to be nuanced in the discussion. discussion. Sure. And it always is folly. Not always. Sometimes, often it's folly. So whether it's somebody I want to talk to, and we'll keep it in the, for now in a political round, but if I want to talk to somebody about the nuances of, you know, what they call woke, what that, what do you actually mean, like really dig in? It's usually a complete waste of time. They're not there to have that discussion. They're just there to spout off this word and then run away. And then on the other side, if somebody wants to tell me that all conservatives are racist douchebags, I have the same problem

it's nuanced damn it there's way more layers to this than this like on and off switch that everyone has from their point of view and I that's that is the trigger it's not so much the word so the word woke or the word any of this stuff

it's just everyone's unwillingness to say it's more than just this black and white issue if they could do that more I think humans would be just better off I just can't stand it where we block it up and go, nope, that's as far as my education on this goes,

because that's where I'm comfortable. I hate that. Freaking hate it. So there, yeah, so there. Which at his core is that very human element of comfort. So notice what every trigger people wrote and what you're writing in the very definition, right, is that you become, you go from a, your baseline state to uncomfortable. And what that does is it requires you to act.

That is the human experience. I'm cold. It's because I'm going to die. get out of the cold. So uncomfortableness is a driving force in us doing something different to change a situation, right? So a trigger will act like, oh, I'm putting you right in an uncomfortable place based on your previous experience, based on a lot of assumptions, based on what you think this is going to go and what you don't want and do want and get out of it.

So that's run or that's fight, right? Right. And just, I think is this morning I saw the clip of Hassan Minaj was hosting the Daily Show. And he does this rant about Twitter that is. He's really good of the guest host they've had. He's been one of the best. He's really funny. He's so good.

He's so good. But you need to watch his Twitter rant. It is beautifully done. And one of his signature moves is to, like, roast the whole world and then see himself in the mirror. And he just does such a great job. It's awesome. Anyway, but that idea of, like, you know, we are all.

Twitter and Twitter is all us and also Twitter is only like three people like it's you just got to I'm not making sense you got to watch it but anyway this idea of like okay I am now forced to do something so so for example Scott you're sitting at someone at lunch and they're like woke pretty woke woke and you're like I have a job now I got to do something or I got to run away or I'm somehow responsible for this person's thoughts you know whatever yeah and so I want to give everyone just a little fun trick to try when you get triggered about something. And then we can go into some people's

specifics because people have some fun stuff. Okay. Cool. Okay. So here's the trick. I will tell you, I did it the other day. It's incredibly effective. It takes a hot minute because you have to manage your biology and we're not all great at that. Most of us are disconnected from our biology. We're like, uncomfortable, run

and scroll Twitter, you know, or whatever. Like we tend not to be able to sit in uncomfortable feelings except all the people who practice meditation. That is exactly what they're doing. They are training their mind to manage uncomfortable stuff. And that's why it's so powerful in how it impacts us is we just have higher tolerance for something. We don't have to make actions so quickly. We can think things through a little differently. And really how it works with humans is it, like human relationships is what I meant, is that it gives you a slower pace and a decision you can make instead of being just stuck

in a biological need to run or fight. Reaction mode, yeah. Yeah, reaction mode, right? Okay, so I'm talking to a person that's great, and I care about a lot, but everyone's while we have a little disagreements about how to do certain things. And she says, okay, no, I know people have strong feelings about Jordan Peterson. and but I just and she just wanted to share some thought from Jordan Peterson. So here's the thing.

I avoid Jordan Peterson because I'm pretty sure I will be triggered by him. And I'm not interested in having another person bother me. Does that make sense? Like I've kind of avoided it. I do know there's just some misogynistic stuff generally and kind of some things about it that I don't love, right? He's generally a pud. That's just the way I look at him. but yes, I know what you're saying.

And I just don't, I'm not going to engage, don't want it. But I found myself immediately going like, oh, no, what is this? Like not triggered in the way that I'm out. I got to run or punch you in the face, but just enough. And I, like, this person just kept talking. And I found myself just like going a little internal and just like, hey, everybody in there, it's okay. Like, just breathe, you know, like a little bit of just breathing a little deeper. like reminding myself like none of this actually matters like they're like just toning the

whole emotional response down even though it wasn't very strong so it's easier to do obviously when it's less strong um and then at the very end of that because most people just want to talk if you'll notice they'll just go blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and then i waited for there's like a logical moment yeah and i just said yeah tell me exactly why that matters so much to you? Why do you think that's such a good idea? How does that resonate with you? And it was astounding.

This person did not come in thinking I was not going to fight with them that on some level you know. Like, she knows me well enough to know I'm going to not be posting Jordan Peterson quotes or whatever, you know? Right, right. I mean, making that assumption, right? And so, but what happened was I just was biologically calm enough to ABQ. It was genuine. Like, all right, how do you want to implement this thing you're trying to tell me about that honestly, when anyone says, oh, I'm reading this, whatever, they saw a tweet or they saw an Instagram wheel.

Yeah, that's the research. Honestly, that's what most people are doing. So instead of like going at it, I just said, hey, you know, tell me, yeah, tell me how you think that concept is applicable to what we're talking about. And it was like a cloud lifted, an angel saying, and she goes. goes, I don't, I don't know, I actually haven't thought about this at all. And I was like, oh, really? Huh. So what, but just what resonates? Like, what makes you think it's good? She's like, I mean, I don't know. I guess I have to think about it. I guess maybe it isn't that good. You know who does this? That Jordan, or not Jordan. Is it Jordan something guy? Who does the daily show stuff where he goes to like rallies and junk? And people, yeah, people will have their big statement like, like, Clepper. Yeah, Clepper. Jordan Clepper. Oh my God. I love that. He's a genius.

I think part of his genius, though, his genius is this thing you're saying because he'll get up with somebody who is decked from head to toe in, you know, whatever cult they're in. I don't want to trigger anyone. But they'll be, you know, going off about one statement. It's on their poster or whatever. And he'll ask these kinds of questions. And they end up straight up just not, either not knowing the answers or coming around in a weird way. Like how you do that to people is. Or how he does that to people is really insane.

I wish I was a little better at that. And does it in a way that doesn't make them feel like they're being made fun of, even though... Even though they kind of are. They're making fun of themselves, right? He's more that he's saying, you know, I don't want to get into his head. I don't know him, but it's more like he's getting them to just say stuff so that it's no longer behind a quote or behind a wall of...

Yeah. I mean, a tribal wall or whatever. Instead, it's just the person kind of admitting where their head's really at. And a lot of times it's them admitting they don't actually know. They don't know. You know. Most don't. And no one's thought through anything long enough that they should really be giving a dissertation at a lunch, right?

Like, if you've done academia at all, you know, that level of work before you're allowed to claim anything is insane. Right? But most of us walk around acting like, well, I've done my research. Like, have you? Okay. Right. But that feeling. I stopped.

I did my research up to the point that, uh, It told me what I believed, confirmed what I believed, but not any further. Yes, exactly. And so this is so human. Everyone does it. Everyone does it on whatever side you're on. It doesn't matter because it is very human to do. The thing I get curious about is like, what is the motive in this moment?

Yes. So if you go right to fighting or flighting, then they are now dealing with your response, which just doubles them down in their whatever. Whereas when I could say, oh, that's really interesting. You think that. Like, keep going. Then suddenly they're like, oh, I don't have anything else because I was just ready to fight. And you just kind of suck the wind out of a potential fight, right?

But it's really hard to do this if you are in that reactive state. So when we go through the list of triggers, and this is why I think it's a powerful concept to think about and dig into for someone. So, you know, when I have a client, I'm always like, so I ask it in a different way, but like, what's triggering you? and then we work with each of them to find out what's really behind them. And what's amazing is your whole system, it's like it's geared up to fight this potential foe.

And then when you deconstruct yourself and look at where does this come from for me or why is this so bothersome? You know, it's usually places of powerlessness or fear or embarrassment or shame or, you know, we're all fighting those core, don't abandon me feeling. or whatever it might be, and then they just come out sideways because that's how it works with humans. And so if you do this with yourself and go, all right, what triggers me and why? What's amazing is you can figure out how to be triggered less. And, you know, some of these triggers are funny. Like, I can't stand it. When I watch a TV show and there's this one little thing,

well, that's going to happen periodically. And you can choose not to watch a show. Like, those are easily avoidable. But when it's like, I'm so triggered every time my mother-in-law opens her mouth. Right. And here's, I mean, we could take that as a really quick, good example. The thing your partner does that's hard for you, you see its origin when you interact with their mother and father. Right. And you may not be conscious of that, but it's part of what you are reacting to. And if you can figure out some of that stuff, it's interesting. You can be less reactive because you get where it is actually coming from. I mean, that's kind of the point of understanding the story of where. these things get started. So, okay, do we want to pick someone's, just randomly pick ones you like? Sure, do you want me to, I have them all right here in front of me. Do you want me to just pull one? Here's one.

Let's see. Okay, so this. One said Brian doing an imitation of Trump. Oh, yeah, that's Talley doesn't like Brian's imitation of Trump. Oh, is it tallie? Because I know Jeannie has a hard time of it, too. I think there's a few people, I think it was Talley. Cali, yeah. In the thread anyway. So here's one, I don't know, should I give names or not?

Oh, sure. Throw me under the bus. Do I, should I do, can I do names? Do you think, Wendy? What's the ethical thing here? Do I give names or no? Don't give names. Just give the thing. All right. Here's one that says, I get unusually triggered when somebody accuses me of not doing something when I know that I have done it. Like full-on flush and heart racing anger response. could be from having to defend myself constantly growing up with ADHD and always forgetting things. So I don't know. It didn't give any examples of that stuff, but like, you know, I assume things like the garbage didn't get taken out. You know, no, I totally did or, you know, things like that, I guess. I don't know.

Yeah. But there's one. Yeah. So how about that being accused of that? I can summarize that one really quick. They already know where it came from. They're not, they're absolutely right. When you grow up with ADHD specifically and then maybe it's not treated.

and you don't learn certain skills and people don't know how to treat you in a way that it functions well, you're going to have example after example after example where you have done something wrong and people come at you. And so, of course, you're going to build a defense to that, right? So you're going to be more triggered by feedback in certain forms than somebody else might be. And so really figuring that out and doing some work to, to, A, manage it differently now as an adult and like learn to process all that has occurred will really help with that. It's like hearing a storage unit on your back full of that pain. And so it's just so easily touched when anyone gives you any kind of feedback that isn't, you're doing it right

because life is full of feedback. You're doing it wrong. And that is, you particularly sense to it. So, not to say that's easy. That's a bit of work. No, it's still work. Yeah, for sure. Here's one I like that I, this feels, I feel like Brian and I in particular will agree with this one, all right?

I could be wrong. And I don't want to blanket this, but you'll tell me if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong. This person says, my trigger, unkindness and disrespect to people in a lower power position. Example, people who are rooted waiters, service people or others. It makes me think that they treat people as a means to an end and directly confronts my belief that everyone is unique and valuable. I feel my body physically tense up, my shoulders hunch,

my jaw clenches whenever this happens. 100% agree with that. I hate that. I think part of that is dad's fault because mom did that to people and dad didn't. And I had an example happening at the same time. She'd be mad at the same dinner at some waiter for no reason.

And my dad would be the total opposite, although he was a horrible tipper, but he was a really, he was very kind to people. And so I don't know. I just really sensitive to that. And Brian, I don't think I've spoken too much about you. I feel like you are the same way with people like that. Absolutely, yes.

Any, my big trigger and I didn't think about it until this segment is seeing people take, forcibly take something that is not theirs to take or, you know, claim something that is not theirs to claim. And it can be as simple as, you know, somebody driving down the shoulder to avoid. a, you know, avoid waiting in line, waiting in the same line that we're all in kind of thing or, uh, anything like that. Yeah. It's the whole, it's the whole, that Simpson scene.

I always remember it where, uh, Lenny and Carl get to this retreat before anyone else. And Lenny says, and we made it here first because of teamwork. And Carl says, yeah, my teamwork. I never forgot that. Yes. Because what it did, it's this perfect example of like, I got mine. sorry, as if we're not all in the same boat half the time, most of the time.

So yeah, I'm with this one big time. So I think there's a common, like, I mean, I read that. And I'm like, well, that's because you're a good person. Right. And so I think there's a very norm. Hopefully we can continue this as a society progresses of just fairness and, like, rightness, kind of the white. universally, we don't think a joke that punches down is funny and why we think a joke that

punches up is funny. We have some built-in stuff here around things that are okay or not okay. And some of it is definitely directly taught. I mean, you know, I think I have verbally said many, many times to my children, the most important person at any company is the person who answered the phone or sees you in the lobby, right? Or the person opening the door. Like if who you are of them is who you are. Or when dad, I was dating Adam or just anyone, he'd say, you know, you got to pass two litmus tests. How do children see this person? And how do dogs? Those are your two tests because a dog will sniff out crap. And kids will read it. Yeah. Right away. Yes. Oh, my God. That's so true. Yeah. So you have a bit of that. So, you know,

I'm sure people are listening who are like, oh, no, children and dogs hate me. I'm like, oh, no, maybe I'll look in the mirror. No, I'm just kidding. But just this idea of like, we, there's just a, a runt response we all have. Like, you don't do that. That's not okay or someone who's disadvantaged or, you know, whatever you might be. And part of it, we've been in some of those places maybe ourselves. It's when we see someone who is disregarding that rule, it can be incredibly triggering. Like, Brian, your example of someone driving on the side of the road passing everyone.

I turn it to George Costanza. We're in a society here. It is. It is universal, I think. And you, you know, and then everyone does something different. So this person is saying, hey, I have this absolute physiological response to this kind of thing. And then the question is, what does it compel you to do? Right.

So road rage is an example of someone feeling compelled to do something with being triggered that way. Yeah. There's a, it's my passive aggressive part of me that loves to do things. Like, I will just ease over it. into the side of the road. Just enough to, like, block anybody from doing that. Kind of, kind of do, kind of do that, yep. Yeah, I just turn on your music real loud and roll your windows down.

Like, there's a way to handle. And it's 100% different than, like, where there's a merge, right? Where you know there's a merge coming. I'm the type who says, I'm going to get over in the lane. I know I'm going to need to be in right away. But really, you know, the merge is there to, like, get everybody as close up there and then alternate cars so that you get the most efficient way of getting everybody into that single lane.

So I don't care about the people who, who, you know, I merge, but they go all the way down to a place where you have to merge because it's like, you do what you want to do. I'm avoiding the stress, but it's still, you know, going in the right place. Yeah, we're talking about the other thing. But shoulder people, yeah, and my road rage. So my, you know, my, my inkling, you know, not to just steer my car into them as they're passing me, but it's, it's that kind of like, oh, please let there be a cop up. there. Please let them. I can't. I don't want to wait for karma to be karma. I've definitely been there.

I don't want to be karma. I know there's a whole like there's a whole psychology about why we see our cars as as our barriers to humanity. Like for whatever reason we, you know, it's like the video of the two dogs on one side of a sliding fence and the other and they're barking like they're going to kill each other until they pull the fence in and they're now nose to nose and now they won't do anything. They're just like happy to be there. You shut it again and they start barking. like bloody murder. It's like we're like that in this in that scenario and it's it's weird because I don't really want harm to come to this idiot who did this. But now I have completely, this is his whole definition now. That's the guy. He's the guy that cut me off on the shoulder and zoomed up in front of everybody. It's his one defining characteristic and nothing else will ever define that human being, which is not true. It's so not true. That guy's probably got kids and a wife who loves him and, you know, there's a million things about this human being. I don't know.

The only one thing I know is today on this Saturday, he cut over on the shoulder. That's all I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst. Exactly. Well, and take the treating someone in a lower position wrong or like a waiter or service people or something, right?

I mean, that's so difficult to watch someone do that. And then maybe you feel compelled to be extra nice or whatever. But here's the thing. It's really hard for us to get in that person's shoes who was unkind and be like, well let's you know maybe there's something going on there maybe they've never been exposed to they have no idea how they're coming across maybe there's you know that's really hard to do we go straight to enemy territory and that's because we have to save ourselves and be protected that is what our biological response is demanding of us so this is why overcoming your biology and this is hard to think this solution is this because it's hard right it is meant to get your attention to and get you to fight. It's giving you all the thing. Imagine getting shot up of all the fighting drugs.

That's literally what's happening. Right? You're getting a surge of all the right things that get you in a position to do that. That's why propaganda from any direction is, that's the entire job is to do this. That's the job. And they know it. 100%. And why it works is that it does that.

Okay. So that's a good one. All right. Let's pick a different one. All right. Let me, okay. Oh, where'd it go? I thought I had a pretty good one here.

Oh, here we go. I like this one. When somebody insists that they are the expert on everything, I cannot tolerate being around them. I know exactly why this. Oh, this one, I feel this one. I know exactly why it is, but it still triggers me. My heart races, my fists and claw clench,

and I get a pit in my stomach, much to my husband's chagrin. I end up verbosely reliving everything. I wish I could have said to them over the next several days. So this person will vent. okay all right so i'm going to have you do this on behalf of this person okay scott you have this same trigger oh absolutely when people are the expert on everything yeah so we're gonna do we're not going to talk to your foot this time but just kind of that same idea where we are you're gonna check with the part of you that is so mad that someone thinks they're an expert okay so you have

a part that is raging at what if mine mine's a little nuance what here's the problem mine is that I know that the person doesn't. You know they're not an expert. Yeah, and I know that they're saying stuff. Like, I'll be on a Zoom call with somebody. As an example, this is not about anyone, anyone knows. But if I'm on a Zoom call with somebody and they are, I'll kind of challenge something they'll say.

And then I'll hear like, take, tick, tick, tick, tick. And I'm like, oh, wait a minute. They're looking something up. And then they'll come back and go, well, the actual and I'll be like, okay, I know what you did. what I want you to do is just be you and talk to me and we can I don't need you to be cool you're already cool we're already friends you're good yeah yeah so that I guess that's the same thing see this is how I know that you're not talking about me is because I'll say you know

I'm not sure I'm pulling up let me pull up Google or let's hope somebody in the chat room can help us out on this one always yeah like I actually you know now that I think about that I think it was in 1984 and if I scroll down to the plot it was actually about right So when I have this, when I have this problem with somebody, it's more than, it's more than, it doesn't trigger me so much that they don't know, or that they say they know a thing that I know they don't know. It's that they're not being straight with me. That's what I don't like, because I know better. And I'm also, it's a hard thing to bring up to go, I don't think what you're saying. I don't think you're being straight with me. About what? The thing you looked up on the internet. Because it is

kind of small and petty sometimes. But when it happens a lot, it's like, all right, well, just be who I am what I am. You be what you are. We're going to have our flaws and that's okay. We'll deal with those, but we don't need to pretend. And it makes me feel like, all right, what things am I not catching that you're lying about? Like, if I can't trust you on this simple, easy thing to cop up to, then what, what am I missing that you're doing on a daily basis that's making you think you can get away with it this time? Yeah. To me, oh, that drives me freaking crazy. If it's somebody I don't know, well, they may know things I don't know. And then I can only assume, but if I get to know you, like we've got a relationship and you're still playing that what are we doing people who grew up in the nicolodean

generation to think that i don't know means they're going to get a bucket of slime dumped on their heads that's right oh nicolodeon you screwed us you screwed up a whole generation of kids who are now afraid to say i don't know let's blanket let's blanket that one it's all the millennials watch too much of that slime business that explains it except wendy's one of those and actually this is a great example a friend just texted me she's like so my My Gen Z employee just texted me and said, sorry, I missed the meeting. I'm not a morning person. And she's like, obviously triggered by that.

It needs me to validate. But yeah, kids these days. And, you know, but if you think about what it actually does, and this is what the person wrote here. Actually, I read a different one about how it actually makes your life harder. That might be what you're experiencing too. Like, you just made my life harder. Now I've got to like do something for.

that, right? So if you have to know everything or if you are, you know, always late or, you know, whatever the thing is that really bugs you. Like you get small things wrong or you don't seem to pay the same consequences I pay for things. Like we're perceiving all of that happening. And it's usually because there feels like something bad happens to me, right? Or the potential of something bad happens to me, which is why our system will trigger itself. Like, well, last time someone promised a thing and then click clack googled while you were talking you know and these can be small small things it doesn't have to be trauma with a large tea right it can just be like oh i do not have a good time when i'm interacting with someone who does these things right so it's

really hard to get into a different mind frame but when you can and this is how we're going to do it so go back to your body scott someone has to be an expert at everything yeah so we're going to ask this first question, is it possible that you really like knowing things? Like, are you an expert a lot of things? Oh, interesting. Who me or them? Yeah, you. Oh, I do like knowing things. Yeah. I like knowing things. Yeah. Okay. So I assume you don't identify, self-identify as a know-it-all. No. If I don't know something, I'll admit it. And if I get it wrong, I'm happy to correct it. Yeah. But also, you don't, like, this is important to you. If I said, Scott, do you care that this person is like really into fishing?

You'd be like, oh, no, cool. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. But if I said, hey, here's another cartoonist who does very similar kinds of work and has a bunch of podcasts. Are you threatened by them at all? And it might be more so, right? Like, is there something going on with what the trigger is because it threatens your position or it, you know, and so asking yourself that question, being curious about, I'm only intimidated by women who are tall. You give me a short lady any day?

I don't care. That's actually true. Yeah, me a lady who's my height, we're going to have to play basketball inside a better person. I dated a girl in high school who was drop dead model gorgeous, and I couldn't do it because she was six foot. Oh, she's like an inch dollar to me. And I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. It's so small.

It was, and I felt like I just could not deal with it. I mean, I was in high school. I'd probably be different now, but back then that seemed. But the point being like, you find whatever is the thing that's hard for you is related to you. it's your problem now but we're going to be gentle about that but there that's the reason you're being triggered separately than the person next to you because they're not having the exact same experience as you that just makes sense right right but then if we can get curious about our own trigger we can do something with it that's the cool part all right so let's go back to this idea

someone's a expert they're annoying where do you feel this in your body when this happens so imagine the same scenario click clacky oh geez i know things I get a little bit of a, that's funny, I can picture it. I get a little smirk on my face and I want to, I want to ask probing questions that will catch them in there. Yeah, right. So I don't want to, because I don't want to out overtly go, dude, you're just looking that up or man, what are you doing?

Instead, I'll go. Oh, really? What's the, uh, the thing? You know, I kind of call them on it a little bit, but not, but, but not do it in a way that's overt. It's a little sneaky, I admit, but I'm trying to. like get them to go, oh, well, you know, that kind of thing. Right.

Yeah. I don't know why. They double down or if they say, all right, you got me. I was looking at it up. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm so pleased when somebody would say, oh, yeah, I just looked it up. I was hoping you guys thought I was smarter than I am.

That is the most, that self-effacing thing would be the most, would be the most like cool water on a fire right then. I'd just be like, oh, okay, that's good. And then I would have seen, I would have said, all right, you're like everybody else. We're all little vulnerable. We all don't want to be the one in the room that doesn't know something, but look at you, copping to it, we're fine, everything's good. Like, that's what I want them to do, but I don't know how to prompt it out of them. Yeah, yeah.

Other than to be sneaky like that. Maybe, maybe, and this is where the bias towards action of, okay, fight or flight gets me to do something is hard and has bad consequences, is we're trying to create something without having an honest conversation, right? I'm trying to manipulate the weather. so suddenly everything lines up and you then are self-deprecating so I feel good. Weird, right? That's a weird job to take on. And yet it comes very quickly, very naturally. And this is where lots of relationships have challenges is that everyone's kind of doing this. Now imagine if you gave yourself an absolute leave of absence from that job. You don't have to care. You don't need to fix anything. You can just be like, oh, that's what's happening? It sounds like you either eight at a pot brownie or you've been meditating. But if we take like actually what you can do without meditating right now and having a pot brownie is to just do the part of you that's so upset.

So, for example, you feel it in your chest? Where do you feel this? When this happens, where do you feel tightness or where is it? It's that thing. You know, I know, well, whatever. Stephen R. Covey is a name used for both good and bad in the world in terms of like it's, you know, he's selling books and it's a scam and other people think he had some really great ideas. But there was one thing about the Covey stuff that always stuck with me and that was this friend of mine who worked at Stephen R. Covey, the company. And he said, there's this thing we always talk about where the only true freedom you have in the world is how you're going to react to something.

you can't like eat from everything from you're the most free you're a millionaire and you got everything to somebody who's in a concentration camp in world war two who's got a single piece of bread and he has the option to give it to his neighbor or to hoard it to himself it's the same freedom one's a lot more difficult obviously and circumstances are a lot harder but the only real freedom we have is how we're going to feel about a thing and therefore react about a thing and that always stuck with me. And it feels like that's what you're kind of saying. Like you've, you've got this moment of time where you can either do the first gut reaction thing, which is often our primal fight or fight or fight or think about it for a second. Look within, look

without, blah, blah, blah. And then come at it from a different way. That sounds like what you're telling me. And so maybe I learned something good from him. But you're using. But you're using one form there, which it's fine if it works, right? You're using your intellectual self to do that to create enough space to have an emotional difference. It's really tough to say like, change my emotion, right? It's easier to change thoughts and then easier still, but this is kind of tricky when you're not connected to your body very well, is to soothe your nervous system. And then emotions change. The story can change and there's more space. So lots of different angles to go at this.

So I'm going to make you do it again. Where do you feel this in your body? Hmm. Same places, I guess. All right. So just do this. Close your eyes. Okay.

I know everyone's like looking at you. We're all watching. Oh my gosh. No, he can't see him because he's covering his face. Covering my whole face. Yeah, no. How do we know your eyes are closed behind your hands, Scott? That's true.

That's true. Let's do it this way. believe it. Okay, so keep your eyes close. Keep your eyes close and I want to take a couple deep breaths and I want to put your mind's eye on your chest or wherever you feel this tightness when you think about people being know-at-alls and experts and deceiving others and not being self-deprecating. Okay. Kind of focus on it. Taking a bunch of deep breaths. I can tell you right where it is. I can tell you right where it is. It's right. Where is it? you know i don't know what this is called from a physiological standpoint but just to the center

of your upper back lower neck this whatever's tying my shoulders to my neck this whole apparatus here that's where i feel trap yeah yeah yeah trap is especially my left side my left my left side my left side is kind of prone to that anyway it's just kind of a lane it happens there a lot i think it's where i lean but and where you keep stress like hold stress oh yeah for sure yeah because then someone will come up and like squeeze my shoulders and it'll be like oh never leave do this forever i'm never leaving you know that kind of thing i have the same thing i think it's genetic okay so here's the thing so just take a second your eyes are so close oh they are now okay they are now good and i want you to just focus on that spot and i want you

act like there's like a little guy that lives right there whose job it is to tense all this up and and prep you for handling it and i just want you to ask that little guy what he needs you to know what he needs me to know what he needs me to know yeah what is he afraid would happen if he didn't tense you up like this what's he afraid would happen um he doesn't have a good he've used this little guy with us before yeah I've used this guy before he was in the pit of our stomachs when we were talking about something else is that same little guy that we have to give permission to to stop the different guy different guy different guy they work together though Okay, yeah, but they share the same break room.

They get up in the snack, the break room. I think they commute. They trade off weeks. They made it as a solar breakfast. Yeah, one of them drives every other week, that kind of thing. He's... What is this part of you afraid would happen if you just let this person ramble on and act like an expert? What are they afraid would happen?

Okay. I don't know if this is the answer you're looking for, but he doesn't know. Uh-huh. He doesn't know. He thinks it's important just like I do that somehow we rectify this problem. But when I probe further to say, why, he doesn't actually have an answer. That is a legit truth. I really am feeling that. Try this. Yeah. Good. Good. I love it. Okay. Ask that that part of you, how old it thinks you are. All right. He's in a little devil onesie. Is that normal? Perfect. I picture how he's dressed, okay. How old he thinks I am? Yeah, ask him how he thinks you are. Oh, it's very complimentary.

He thinks I'm 35. Okay. So I want you to try this. Just update this part real quick. Just let him know your 50-something, your grandfather. Just kind of update him. See how he responds. All right.

As best I can tell, shoulder junior over there is now fully aware of my age status and life status. And how did it respond to that? Like, oh, you've grown up a little. Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, right. You're, you know, I'm getting the impression either from you or from this or from the little guy in the onesie that it's about you're, this isn't the right word. you're bigger than the problem you don't need this isn't something to get bunged up about just let it be for what i want you to try now yeah i want you to thank this part for working hard for you even though it doesn't quite understand why just trying to protect just thank it for

its efforts to protect you it's asking for a raise now is that normal it wants a raise yeah you can you can ask you can say this you can say ask it to relax and step back like it deserves a vacation just see if it can relax where does it go and you it can just sort of lay there and relax and jump in if it needs to or if it'd like to permanently be done that's an option too so i have this problem i i have i have a brain that likes to build a world and i'm trying to physically figure out where he's going to go put it in the world of big mouth because i've been feeling this whole time like this should be animated on on big mouth it is like big mouth isn't it or the so so build it somewhere awesome and let it go there and make sure it's happy and okay it's it can be done okay

all right i've done that he's in a special little place he's out of his little double suit he's wearing wearing sweats he's chilling okay so now what i want you to do is i want you to with this part safely relaxed and okay somewhere else how are you now feeling towards this idea that somebody has to be an expert less annoyed i'm less annoyed by it i think i might It feels like the kind of feeling that at the moment I'm feeling it, but I might feel different later because I've had, you know, I'll run into some day where it's like kind of a hard day and then I'll have to deal with that again and then I'll be annoyed. Okay. But it does, but it feels like if it was happening right now, I'd just like listen. I just listen to the to this. And I would accept it for what it is and I just sort of let it let it go. Okay. So here's how this gets practical. I want you to do this is next time this part gets taken out of retirement. and gets agitated, you just take it right back, put it in sweats, give it all the video games

and candy at once. And it just doesn't need to work for you anymore. It worked for some reason at 35. It needed to jump in. Maybe there were things going on then that needed extra attention and getting your awareness. And maybe they just aren't needed anymore. And that's okay. So just put it back in retirement, take a big breath and see how it goes.

All right. That'll do a shoulder, Jr. Exactly. Okay. So that is not what I was expecting to do. I couldn't just help myself. So sorry, everyone. No, that's cool.

That was great. It is, it's pretty fun. And it sounds really weird. And it would work. So this therapy works so well as people like Scott's brains. Their brain will create all the things it needs. It's pretty. Yeah, I had a very, very vivid visual of the entire ordeal, right down to like,

details about his facial expressions and what this room looked like that he's now going to retire in and the couch he was laying on. I'm like, I got it all. It's all dioramic in my head now. Yeah, I love it. And so just use that. Use that as a place to locate that and like really let it retire. And anyone listening is like, what the crap just happened? And what it is, is that at certain stages of our lives, certain responses or what we all call parts of us or trigger parts, they come online to protect us. So that's why I like to sort of have people check in with their bodies and find out like, how long has this part been doing this job? And when they say they think you're 10, well, they've been doing that job since you're 10.

And so sometimes, you know, like you can kind of go into this internal world a little bit and see like, oh, there are lots of things that have come online to help me throughout my life. And some of those are not useful anymore and need to learn to relax. And I'm the one that can help them relax. Usually you need someone to help you do this, right? It's hard to do it on your own. However, like, what happens then if you're not triggered the next time someone does this? And you can just have space for like compassion for somebody who thinks they need to know everything

rather than irritation at that person. Right. Right. or the guy driving on the side of the road, your brain can actually go, maybe there's an emergency. It's also not my problem, right? Like, it's called being real, real grown up like it is. It's having a little more space between some of these reactionary experiences and whatever triggers you.

And then some of the things are just going to always trigger us, everybody. Like, I read one final one was about dogs or human licking sounds. Amen. I want to murder my dog every night. Like, it's got an old mouth. Or a human's licking dog sounds. Yeah, you don't want that. That's the worst.

No, like you and Kim, you and Kim, I already thought you and Kim had a lot in common. But now I really do because Kim cannot deal with any of the dogs in the house making any looking sounds of any kind anywhere near her. Plus, she has superhearing so she can hear it a room away. And I find it not cathartic or pleasant or anything, but when I hear my dog clean in her arm or something, it's like. It's like a crackling fire kind of thing for you. It's like, oh, it's my dog. It's being a dog. I love dogs.

She's just being a dog. Listen, I've got, I've got like a hunting, weird, houndy, mixie dog. I don't know what it is, but I'm going to record it, and I'm telling you right now, no one. No one could do that. I want to hear it. It is. I want to hear it. I want to hear it for sure.

I'll send it. And then the whole world will agree. So whoever this person is who wrote it in about the dog and human licking sounds, do not listen to this thing, Scott will play for you. It will break your brain. It's so gross. I can't wait to play. on the show for everyone to hear. Oh, God.

I got to go. I got a client. Oh, yeah, you should go. Get the hell out of here. That was really great. And I hope people liked it. Send us your feedback. Let us know what you thought.

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Join us, everybody. Join us. Realsteps.org, everybody. Wendy, we'll see you next time by now. Okay. Thanks, Wendy. Would you do eventually get your one apple pencil and draw a shoulder junior in his devil onesie?

It's a consensus among the chat room that there needs to be a butt flap on the onesie. Oh, on the, like an old. fashion, yeah, they all had that, like the one of the night underwear. Yeah, old fashioned, like the lung underwear. Yep, exactly. Yeah, okay, no, that makes sense. And then I, so we got, but that means we got to do like a rear view so everybody

can see his little crack or what's the deal there. What do you want to do that? Oh, yeah, it needs to be. So, like, I'm picturing, what was the Harvey comics? Like, we had Casper, Richie Rich. What was the, was the devil called Lil Devil? Oh. Um, oh.

Click, click, click, clack, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. Let's look it up. Let's look it up. Lil Devil? Is it Lil Devil? Let's see. TV series? No.

No, it was Harvey Comics. Like, Hot Stuff. Thank you, Jayfunk-tastic. Yeah, do you not remember Hot Stuff? No, that's totally news to me. It was a, oh, look at him. The little dude's familiar, but I don't remember the name of this at all. Yeah, like the total Harvey comics.

I guess he's wearing a diaper. I forgot he had a diaper on. Oh, okay. He wouldn't really have a butt flap because he would be. his butt flap. Right, right. I found him here. He's eating some,

he's a combination of hot stuff and Wendy the good little witch too because she actually did have like a red onesie. So this is definitely that era though from that stuff, right? Yes. Yeah. The one I found here is he's eating

a corn on the cob and he's shooting popcorn out of his ears because he's hot like a devil. That's fantastic. Yeah. Oh, hot stuff, the little, so his name was hot stuff? Hot stuff, the little devil, yeah.

Wow. Do not remember that at all. My God. I'm just, all of a sudden, all these old Harvey Comics memories are coming back to me. Casper, Richie Rich, Wendy the Good Little Witch, hot stuff. Did you, uh, and you read these, eh, as a kid? I read those. Those were, those were comics I got alongside Spider-Man and the Avengers and, uh,

Wow. And X-Men. Yeah. That's great. Harvey Comics. Where their logo was like Marvel, it just spelled Harvey. Oh, is it really? Yeah.

Oh, funny. Let me take a look here. Kind of here. I'll send you it when I just pulled up here. Oh, it totally is. Yeah. You see that? It's like the old,

it's like the old Marvel Comics logo where it was in an M. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's an H and then, but the font used for the Harvey and the comic small underneath it. It totally looks like Marvel.

It's weird. That's really weird. Oh, my God. I wonder if I got any of those leftovers still. You'd probably have some, right, in a box somewhere? Probably.

Probably in a long box somewhere, yeah. I have all my old mad magazine somewhere, but I have no idea where that box is. I used to love that stuff. All right. Well, there you go. A good segment today. Real quick, we got a bunch of shows coming up in the next day or so.

And one of them is Coverville today at 1 p.m. Tell us about that. Yeah, today it's going to be Nick and Nina's excellent playlist. We had birthdays, milestone birthdays for Nick Kershaw. He of the Wouldn't It Be Good fame. He gets covered a lot. And sadly, a lot of the newer covers are all like dance, dance music. but I am such a huge Nick Kershaw fan

and that whole album, Human Racing and the album The Riddle, those two were just on constant replay in my 80s. Loved the music that he put out. And then the rest of the show will be about Nina Simone, who was singer, songwriter,

but advocate for black women everywhere. She was just a powerhouse. And so many songs that you hear a lot these days, deserve, like she deserves credit for either writing them or making them popular. Like the song, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood that the animals had a big hit with. Oh, yeah. That was hers. Feeling good.

Birds flying high, you know how I feel. Anyway, so Nina Simone and Nick Kershaw today, 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv. Check it out. Also, tonight, Core at 5 p.m. We're talking video games. Lots to discuss there. So head on over to Core at 5 p.m. here at the channel or get the podcast wherever you get it. Also, this film sack weekend will be covering Walking Tall.

Some of you may say, now, wait a minute. That just disappeared from my streaming list. It is on AMC Plus. It is also available via someone told me it showed up on 2B. I haven't confirmed that. Oh, really? Okay. That might be the new one, though, with the Hercules idiot. What's his name?

Sorbo. Sorbo. I'm not sure. Really? Anyway. And, you know, listen, sign up for a month of AMC, watch Walking Tall, watch Gangs of London, which is fantastic. Maybe pick up an interview with the vampire. Kevin can F himself.

There is a lot of good binge-worthy programming on MC Plus. You haven't already watched it. That's right. Core, by the way, is tomorrow. Oh, what the hell day is it today? Oh, yeah, it's Friday. Shit. I forgot.

John's in, yeah, John's got a thing. That's why you had to move it. So it's not tonight. It's Friday night. Same time, though, 5 p.m. Sorry, everybody. Screwed that up. I knew that all about core myself.

I did not look at the chat room to find out about core. Of course not, because you don't type and say you knew a thing that you didn't know. You don't do it. No, it's actually one of the things I like about, Brian. If he doesn't know a thing, he'll tell me. I like that. Exactly. I like it.

Everybody be like that with me, okay? And I'll try my hardest to be that way with you. If I don't know what's wrong or if I tell you what's wrong, I'll admit it. It's fine. That's right. If I come on here and say, Veronica, she likes to watch horror movies and pour pig blood on her while she does it.

Yeah. That's not true. And if you tell me it's not true, then I will admit it. Okay. Right. And yeah, couch party is in the a.m. tomorrow. It'll start an hour later than we usually do TMS. So if you're here live for TMS, just wait an hour past that time on Fridays and we'll be doing

couch party in the morning. Yeah, we're doing that tomorrow morning. So that'll be fun. And what else? More dead space this weekend with me and Carter. Oh, actually, yeah, no, that'll still happen. It'll just be before they leave. They're going to Vegas on Sunday. Yeah.

And they're going to be gone until next Thursday, so I'm going to be like totally bachelorhood in it here. Oh, my gosh. That's a long time to leave you on your own devices. I know. Someone's going to check on me. Make sure I'm not stroked out on the floor somewhere after day four or whatever. So just check in on me.

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How about a T-level? How about all kinds of cool stuff? Well, go find out more at patreon.com slash TMS. That'll do it for us. We got to get out of here, but we cannot do that until we've played us song. J.D. and Memphis wrote in and said, hey, boot and scoot. March 2nd is my 40th birthday, so I thought I'd go big and request my all-time favorite cover. Brian was very good about waiting.

Let's party. A little slow on the trick. I wasn't triggered enough. I know. A little more triggering, apparently. Maniac by Carpenter Brut. If for some reason that doesn't work, I need 80s vibes and lots. of synth.

Thanks for all the years of keeping me sane at work. Love you guys and all that you do signed JD. Nice. This is a great example of a lyric that kind of

I don't know why it bothers me. It certainly doesn't trigger me. But the song Maniac by Michael Sembello talks about, you know, she's a maniac when she's on the floor. And she's dancing like she never danced before,

which, you know, could mean like, oh my God, I've never seen her dance like this Or it could mean, oh, she looks like someone who is dancing for the first time ever and doesn't know what dancing is. She's dancing like she's never danced before. It does really have a double meaning I'd never considered you felt today. It's like a foreigner and feels like the first time.

So it's awkward and incredibly painful? Or, uh... Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Anyway. Who knows? Let's get to this.

This is Carpenter Brute with a live version of Maniac by Michael Sembello. this comes from their album called With No Spaces, Carpenter Brute Live from 2017. Fantastic. All right, check us out for the rest of the week and all that other stuff we mentioned and we'll be back Monday

for a fresh episode of TMS. Just a Sunday night looking for the fight of her life The real time world no one sees her alone They all says she's crazy Like it we dance to the bit of her heart Changing woman into the light She has dancing to the danger zone

When the dancer becomes a dance It can get you like a night If I keep because the fire Oh, are you between will and what's with me? She's a maniac, maniard on the throne, and she's dancing like she's never danced before. She's a maniac, maniard on the throne, and just dancing like she's never danced before.

On the eyes, the lion runs 70, the face must be the sea It's a horrible place of mystery That you can't hold in deeds You work of a life for a memory time You could cover and burst you buy It's a push of the world that there's always chase In the hangarist days the life There's a co-connected heat

It's strange stretching for defeat Never stopping with her head against the wind She's a mania, many a mania I shall know And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a mania, she's a maniardia and I shall know And she's dancing like she's never danced before Oh!

If you get to like to like a lot more than the fire Oh my and why are you scared too like a life If I keep me cause the fire All the wire between will and what we'll be She's a man, many, I betty, I should know And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a maniac, badiardia, I should know And she's dancing like she's never danced before

A lady, a baby, I thought you know And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a lady, maybe I thought you know And she's dancing like she's never danced before This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. I don't mean to be rude, but can we talk about it later? No.