The Morning Stream - TMS 2443: The Singular Peanut

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

GOLDFILLLING! We've Lost Left Strutter! OH NO WE'RE GOING TO DIE!... j/k wanna marry me? Mind if I record this in case we crash? Rage against the burrito. Is our show always this gross. A Giant Fart i...n the Sky. Is there a doctor on the podcast? and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Lost left strutter. Oh no, we're going to die. J.K., you want to marry me? Mind if I record this in case we crash? Rage against the burrito. Is our show always this gross? A giant fart in the sky. Is there a doctor on the podcast?
Starting point is 00:00:51 And more on this episode of The Morning Stream. No, no, don't. I know it's lame. But it's just lame to me. It's lame. But not smell my feet. That is lame. You'll get them fixed now.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Good morning. It's morning and welcome to TMS. It is Tuesday, March 28, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That guy right over there is Bobby Frankenberger sitting in the old guest chair. Hello, Bobby. Hey, Scott. Hey, morning stream. How is everyone? Hey, it's Tuesday's own Bobby. You're here on your own day. Does that feel good, bad? It feels like a comfortable coming home. It's like you're coming home early from school. You know, you're the place that you know you're supposed to be. But you're there at a time that you're not
Starting point is 00:01:56 normally there and it feels it feels really that's a strange feeling yeah and you just wonder does my mom know does my mom care yeah does my mom know I'm on the show the whole time today maybe not maybe so am I gonna
Starting point is 00:02:10 get in trouble but we talked about a bunch pre-show so patrons got a load of this and live streamers but Bobby had a flight today and today was just like a usual like training flight right like a normal one yeah and like you said I won't get into details because
Starting point is 00:02:26 you know if you want the details you really ought to be a patron um there you go um but uh but yeah i was i have a my medical flight test coming up on thursday so we were practicing for that you know what they ought to do for that we were talking before the show what a medical flight test is and going through all the details but one thing we didn't talk about is be cool if the medical flight test involves somebody faking a heart attack up there you know yeah and then what would you have to do so i guess all you could do because your chief your chief thing would be i need to land this and not just throw everything to the side and perform CPR somehow in that little cockpit
Starting point is 00:03:02 you need to land first and then get the help, right? Is that what they would tell you to do? Probably. So you're saying like, not a medical... You're saying like a test for like a medical officer on the plane. Yeah. Or a medical emergency. Yeah, let's say that your passenger...
Starting point is 00:03:18 The reason I bring this up, I saw a dumb episode of, I think it was 911, this procedural show that my wife's really into. they don't have creative names for those shows no they don't and you know what they make crap loads of viewership and money i understand why they're popular but they're so cookie cutter anyway and it's even got like really great people in it peter kraus is in it freaking uh who who just who just lost uh supporting actress of the i can't think of her name strange days wakonda queen what's her name oh yeah i know who you're talking about the uh lady anyway
Starting point is 00:03:53 i mean they were to angela bassett she's like the main she's like the main actor in this thing. Anyway, there's like all these like high flute and actors and stuff doing the show, but it's so like paint by the numbers. The music feels like it's been used in CSI, Vegas. It's just all really standard. But there was a scene where this guy decided to take his girlfriend up in his plane. He was like you except he had passed his thing so now he can fly these all the time. He takes her up in the sky and in the middle of it he decides to fake that the plane is going down. So he pretends that... Because he's being an a-hole. He's being an a-hole. So he's like, oh, no, we've lost left strutter or whatever the hell
Starting point is 00:04:32 goes wrong, right? I don't know. And the strutter. The strutter. And the plane starts to like, you know, he makes it wobble and it's very stressful. And he's telling her, get the manual out, read me the stuff. And she starts reading through this manual. And she's panicked, you know, beyond belief. And then part of the manual, the manual evolves from this emergency language into a wedding proposal, all right? Oh, my God. So she suddenly realizes what's going on, looks at him, he chills out. Now, it looks like happy ending, although I'd still be pissed at this guy.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But it looks like she's like, yes, I will marry you and all this. And then she has a heart attack because her stress levels are so high from the freak out. Also, that's the wrong answer. The answer is, no, I will not marry you. I know, I was like, you know what? If there was ever a definition of a real-time red flag, it's happening right in front of you later. kidding. Yeah, don't marry this guy. He's a weirdo. Yeah. But anyway, then he has to panic and call it and say, ah, my, my fiancee, you can only barely call her that, is having some kind of thing. And they're like, all right, sir, you just need to. Anyway, the whole point I'm getting to here is the, the solution was, there's not much you can do for her up there other than you've got to land this freaking plane.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah, there's a story I heard recently of, um, of a, of a. student who had to have been later in their training, I guess, but a student who landed the plane, their CFI lost consciousness next to them. Their flight instructor lost consciousness next to them. The student thought the whole time that the flight instructor was just messing with him, which, wow. But it lost consciousness for, I can't remember the reason, but he was unconscious the entire time, slumped over, leaning on the student who was flying the plane and they landed the whole plane with the
Starting point is 00:06:25 CIFI just slumped over on it. So the student was just like, this must be part of my training. I guess so. What makes, what I wonder about is what kind of a flight instructor is that that you really thought like this guy's messing with me again? Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:06:41 hardcore, dude. I don't, I feel like when, and so when he landed and found out that no, he really was having a thing, I guess what else is he going to do? He still did what he had to do. Right. Yeah. I mean, it did the right thing. You just, you got to land the plane. Yeah, but do you think it was got, was it quiet up there? Was he like, all right, enough of this and like elbow on? You know, there's a lot of meat in this, in the sandwich I haven't heard. I need to know more about how that went. Because he just go, oh, a little trick. Is it okay. I'm going to pretend like it's not even, like how did he react?
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's what I want to know. I want the whole story. I wish there was a GoPro on the plane or something. They should put cameras on and in everything. That's the rule. I wish there was, I wish, I'm kind of want to put a GoPro inside my plane, but I'm kind of afraid to ask my instructor if it's, if I could. Oh, well, okay, let's think about how the scenario would go. You'd say, you know, I do a bunch of internet content and I also talk a lot about my flight training and stuff on a podcast and I have a science show and all this. You can say all these things to preempt it and then you go, you think it'd be okay if I had a go. GoPro in here just to create a little content, show people the process of what's going on, or is that frowned upon?
Starting point is 00:07:56 That's how you ask. If he freaks out at that, then something's wrong with him. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'll bet he says, he may say no, but I bet he just go, oh, yeah, that's against the thing. They won't let us do it, you know, or something like that. I don't think you get in trouble. You just got to know how to ask it, right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah. That's the part that's hard for me, the knowing how to ask. Well, it's hard in the moment, right? Because you're like, he's a fancy, he's instructor guy. he could take with a swoop of his pen he could stop your flight plans forever exactly i refuse to fill out your logbook and then with a flourish he turns and leaves anyway but no they don't teach us how to handle in-flight medical emergencies i guess how would what would you do they tell you to land the plane they tell you to turn around and ask if there's any doctors on the plane oh yeah any doctors here oh it's just us too
Starting point is 00:08:46 well shit what are you going to do uh well good luck Thursday's big deal and we're excited for you because thanks thanks i'll let everybody know how it goes or i won't and you'll know because i don't want to talk about it so i don't know if this is a science question or not but i'm going to share with you an experience i had yesterday that i that i don't understand all right every every question is a science question that's true science isn't everything damn it so look out everyone uh here comes this question so my dog yesterday i gave her a peanut singular peanut okay little dry rose
Starting point is 00:09:20 She's eaten peanuts before, which I'll get to in a second, but I gave her one peanut yesterday. Now, there was a time where an entire planters, uh, hoo-ha thing fell over and dumped, I don't know, a ton of peanuts. She ended up eating like 50 of them before I could stop it. Yeah. So I know that she's eating peanuts. And by the way, she was fine. She ate those 50 peanuts. She never had a problem. She never had a psycho poop. She never barfed. She never had a, she never had a, a reaction, and I read that peanuts are fine for dogs, unless the other... Peanuts are fine for dogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So I wasn't worried about giving her the one peanut because previously, like I say, she had 50 and nothing happened. Yeah. I gave her one peanut, and within five minutes, she has ralphed the one peanut on the, on the carpet. She horked up a single... Nothing else, just the peanut? The peanut plus whatever else was in there, which wasn't much, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:19 so what I'm trying to understand is what the F dogs you eat if you can eat 50 of them you can eat one of them like it doesn't make any sense to me that she would get like sick maybe she was too empty and one peanut on an empty stomach is enough
Starting point is 00:10:35 to make her maybe that's happened to me before when I'm really hungry and I eat something and I feel nauseous yeah that'll happen I guess if you eat too quick or I don't know if you're if you let yourself go too long without eating and then you're like oh man give me that burger and then that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So it was, it was some minutes later, you said? Yeah, it was like maybe two, three minutes later. It's not much. Because my first thought was maybe gagged, right? Oh, well, she is weird. Maybe she did. This is Rainer with a tiny throat and this shaky disposition. But you probably would have seen signs of that, like, you know, hacking and, you know, doing the things like...
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah, I would have seen something like that, but instead it was just like, thanks for the peanut. Here it is on the carpet for you to deal with. Really annoyed me. Maybe she liked it so much she wanted it again. Maybe that, well, she's proved that time and time again. Sometimes she'll hark on the rug. Dogs love to do that. Oh, they love it, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I mean, waste not want not, right? The good stuff's still there. Can you imagine if people did that? Like, this is what I understand. Okay, another science tangent. You know, I'm sure there's 8 billion people on the planet. I'm sure there's some people who do that. Well, there are some, but yeah, it's a numbers game,
Starting point is 00:11:48 but it depends on percentages. But here's what I'm saying. Like, is our aversion to certain things make sense to me. Like, if I see somebody hurl and me going, what is that based on? That's based on me going, that's somebody who is sick and not well. My preservation depends on me staying unsick and staying well. Ergo, I shouldn't go near that. That's gross because of that, right?
Starting point is 00:12:17 That's why it's repulsive to us. The same reason, a lot of things repulse us. It's like it's a survival thing. Right. Your disgust response has been honed by evolution over many millions of years. Right. And I think about that every time I see something gross. And I also think it's a great way to think about things.
Starting point is 00:12:35 If somebody was going to go into the medical field and have to deal with that kind of stuff all the time, the way I would think about it would be, I would think about it evolutionarily in the, that context so that I could compartmentalize the part of my brain that wants to react in a repulsive way, but instead see it for the science that it is, and then therefore I can be a doctor and see blood and not worry about it. Well, anyway, so why do dogs have brains? Because just kidding, why do dogs have this thing where they're like, oh, I just horked lunch all over the place. I'm going to go eat that again where we would never do. that ever right so why why our allowance is so much our willingness to allow such things is so much
Starting point is 00:13:25 narrower than a dogs and i don't understand why why dogs are okay with it you know because they want to survive too they have their own evolution to speak of they they don't want to you know eat a thing that's bad for them so why do they do that maybe it's just that it's not evolution has worked differently on dogs so maybe it's just not as bad for them. Maybe they can, you know, stomach that kind of stuff more easily for us because it's harder for them to find food maybe. These are all speculations. I don't know. Maybe we have evolved less tolerance for that kind of a thing because maybe we used to do it. Maybe we did. Maybe we were all cave people. Uh, you know, yacking all over the cave and then going, well,
Starting point is 00:14:11 that's, that's, we're not wasting that. I'm going to eat that. Yeah, I don't know. Plus, we've helped dogs evolve too quickly in so many ways. Like, domestication of dogs is, like, rapid fire evolution in a weird way. Like, we curve them to be what we want them to be. Yeah. You think two dogs next to each other, one of them pukes, but doesn't eat it. Do you think the other dog says to the other dog that puked, hey, uh, you're going to eat that again? Are you going in for another one, or do you mind if I, uh, do it?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah, dogs are gross, it turns out. But anyway, the peanut and the popper was our story today. I hope you enjoyed it. Also, gold filling question. I didn't mean for these to all be scientifically related things. Okay, I didn't mean for that. But you're here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And you have a science podcast, so we may as well just dive right in. Use it or lose it, right? Use it or lose it. That's right. So I've got this text I got from, they didn't even name. They didn't. Anyway, here's what they said. Regarding gold fillings.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I have been a long time listener since the instance, so thank you for all that you do for us. I just happily became a patron today. Oh, fantastic. Thank you so much for that. On the subject of gold fillings, I agree they are the best. That is true.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I have one up here on my upper right, and that thing has been there since 92, I think, and it's never had any issues ever of any kind. I got a big old crown. It's perfect. All other teeth with the work on them have either said, oh, we don't like silver no more. Pop it out.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're doing something else. Or, you know, whatever. Some form of crap has happened to many of my other teeth. Not that one. Solid as a rock. The gold standard, you might say, Bobby. You might say it. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I see what you did there, yeah. Yeah. So here's what he says. I'm a machinist of 24 years. I have a degree in metallurgy. Ooh. And I know what gold can do to ceramic. The answer is nothing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Ceramic is one of the hardest cutting tools for any metal. Is ceramic's not a metal, though? Is it? No, it's not. What does he mean there? But it's very hard, it's very hard, though. Okay. So as you can cut tight...
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't want to use the wrong word because of where this is going. The words are important. That's true. He says you can cut titanium with it. he says the only thing about it is that it's very brittle well that's interesting um i can only use it or sorry i can only use it on a cut that isn't interrupted it has to be smooth if there is any chatter the ceramic will shatter oh man i love that if you have the chatter it will shatter yeah in the hands of bill shatner anyway every uh even with gold or other soft metals
Starting point is 00:17:10 honestly i don't see how this can happen in your mouth even though it sort of makes sense as we're talking about the tooth below my gold tooth that shattered. Ceramic is so much harder than gold. It had to be another factor. It could be the bond. I like the glue or the heat or like the glue or the heat that they treat it to make it stick. Thank you for all you do. Maybe this question is for Bill or Bobby can explain it better.
Starting point is 00:17:32 All right. So here's the story, the short story is, if you missed it on the show, I shattered a crown at the bottom, a ceramic crown. And part of my theory was, well, I've got this gold one up top, maybe a just superior in every way. I don't know. But it wasn't just that. There was like, was it crackers, I guess for this one? I was eating some kind of cracker. I think what happened is you got the exact right angle, the exact right trajectory. It's pointing down like a, almost like a wedge, you know, and I went, and that did it. So there's other stuff involved, almost like having a spike that I then hit with the gold hammer. Bink, is kind of what happened to me. But, but,
Starting point is 00:18:13 Bobby, your knowledge of gold. Lay it on us. What do you think's happening here? What's going on here with the gold in our mouths? I really don't know. Material science is something that I've always been fascinated by, but a lot of that, a lot of that,
Starting point is 00:18:28 a lot of the science around materials and metals and everything are so specific to that area of science that I don't encounter it a lot because so it falls out of my head all the time. Right, right, right. Sure. So I know that a lot of different metals have different properties, and things like hardness, strength, and brittleness are all important properties, and they're different things. For example, I know that hardness is a measure, and this person was talking about how ceramic is very hard. And what that means is that hardness is a material's ability to maintain its shape under.
Starting point is 00:19:13 stress so it's it's not going to deform very easily that's what ceramic is and and but brittleness is the ability for it to come apart and I think it I could be wrong about this but I think the reason that that that happens is because this the crystalline structure of the solid breaks and because of the nature of how crystals are held together it starts to that that that break propagates throughout the material and then it breaks into a bunch of pieces yeah or it just shatters a little bit or cracks very easily and yeah and so that's what he's saying ceramic does ceramic interestingly is not just one thing there are a lot of different types of ceramics it's just a a term for like an organic material or maybe it can be
Starting point is 00:20:04 I think it is inorganic actually but it's non-metallic and it's it's just fired and heated up like a clay but to a really high temperature right and then it creates some it makes it that process makes it really really hard
Starting point is 00:20:22 but I've always found metallurgy to be interesting all the different ways that you can affect a metal by heating it up really hot like near it you know there's a point at which you heat up metal and it loses its magnet magnetic properties right um and that's what when you're forging swords and steel and stuff like that you do it you
Starting point is 00:20:47 you heat it up to right when it's about to lose its magnetic properties and then you cool it down and the speed at which you cool it down affects the properties of it uh and all this kind of stuff and i i wish i knew a lot more about that but i i don't there's always time you're a lot You're a guy that likes to learn things, you know. Yeah, yeah. And I like to learn by doing. So I've always thought that it would be really fun to make a forge in my backyard, you know? Or in my garage or something.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah. But I don't, I haven't. I was about to come up with an excuse, but I don't think any of, like, I don't have an excuse. It's just, I haven't yet. Well, you're too busy, you know, once, one thing at a time, one side and interested in time. You got to get your flying's license, your pilot's license, and then go melt down a bunch of thermite or whatever the hell metal you want. I guess thermite's not metal, is it? Or is it? I don't know. I think it explodes or something. It does explode. But I don't
Starting point is 00:21:46 know why it does that. But anyway, your metallurgy career can wait until your pilot career happened. Also, no one told me before I had kids how much time it takes to raise them. Oh, yeah, no. If I had known yeah if you if you had known someone had warned me you have the two or the three i don't remember i have two all right you've got two i had three brian had one uh it turns out this is a good PSA for the public here to hear it turns out raising kids takes a bunch of time it takes like i think at least 18 years oh easily and then if you break that down per hour it's pretty insane what you got going there you know yeah our pretty pretty kid. Pretty nuts. Yeah, per per year, per 18 year life. And even then, they're not always
Starting point is 00:22:34 ready. I mean, I don't know if you've noticed lately, but the world hasn't been too great at making sure an 18 year old can just go off and be on their own like they used to. There's no such thing as a starter home anymore. There's starter cardboard on the street. That's the thing. Right. So yeah, it's a weird time. But yeah, I'm going to agree with you there. Raising kids, it takes time. Yeah. And you never get to stop. And then at some point, you flip over and now they're helping you de-raise or you know
Starting point is 00:23:04 or a different kind of raise you know it's like we raise R-A-I-S-E our children and then they R-A-Z-E us yeah at the end I love that as a as a euphemism for for aging it's D-raising
Starting point is 00:23:20 D-raising yeah right maybe we're all going to need their help at some point I figure so I've got you know I had three so it should be a good tripod of help if you need it. That's the idea. We'll see what happens. You're two, because I have two daughters, you're two daughters, Carter and Taylor, right? Taylor. How far apart are they? So there are three, all three kids are three years apart. Yeah, so my two daughters are three years apart as well. Yeah, we did that on purpose. We thought,
Starting point is 00:23:49 we didn't know why, but we just felt like that was a smart range. It's a good, I think it's a good age split because, because they're close enough, you know, but far enough apart. to where they can still, they still like the same things and they can get along together and do stuff together. And the three-year-old can actually help when the, you know, a little bit when there's a new baby in the house. Yeah, for sure. Not super reliable, but, you know, it's not like raising a one-year-old while you have an infant. It's much easier because they're walking. They're potty trained.
Starting point is 00:24:16 They're all that crap. And, yeah, hand me down clothes. Another good one, chat. My oldest daughter's clothes went right to Carter every time. Then Nick came along. It was like, ah, shit, we got to buy all new stuff. Did Carter resent that in any way? No, she did have that middle kid syndrome thing.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Everyone talks about where... They feel left out or forgotten? Not left out. They just feel like the oddball. And she is kind of the oddball. And I mean this in a good way. Like she's goofy to a strength. And I can't help but think it just has a little bit to do with the cultural implications of being in the middle kid.
Starting point is 00:24:58 That could be wrong. be listening i'm not sure she's in here or not but i but i i think it actually benefited her to have that kind of weird middle bit but taylor was the one uh when they were little she had all kinds of resentment about a new baby entering the frame she did not like that at all and it took her i think a long time to get over that they they're great friends now and you know get along swimmingly and no issues at all but when they were when they were little you could tell taylor was just like you're up in my business you know so that was a thing thing, and then Nick comes along, and he just kind of goes where everybody wants him to go.
Starting point is 00:25:33 It's like, hey, we're going to go do this. So Nick would try it along like a good little brother would go just do whatever. And I think that inadvertently gave him, at least, especially at a younger age, gave him a fear of making choices. And I don't know if it's because his sisters were just so like, let's go, let's go, let's go, come on, Nick, we're doing this or something. And he just kind of went along. So when it came to somebody saying, Nick, what do you want to do? he kind of frees up so if we took him to like this we tell the story all the time we'd go to like a dollar store and we'd say all right everybody gets one thing for a buck you know Taylor wants a doll
Starting point is 00:26:11 Carter wants a whatever whatever it is and Nick would end up finding like four things that he really wanted the one would be like a dark gun the other one would be like a little bow and arrow plastic thing some little action figure whatever it was yeah and he would be paralyzed with choice paralysis he couldn't do it he couldn't choose and it would always end up like this he'd be like but i don't know and we'd even narrow it down we could get down to two thinking all right now we're down to two it's either the little gi jo guy or it's this dark gun which one are you gonna do i don't want both i can't decide like he would just lose his mind and end up leaving with nothing because we had to go eventually the girls got whatever they picked and nick would
Starting point is 00:26:53 always end up not knowing what he wanted and uh it's It's not so bad today, but it was... I wonder if that's because you, being so young, you have so many, you have two parents and then, you know, in next case, two older siblings. You've got four people in your life who can make decisions for you if you just wait long enough. Right, right. And so you never develop a sense of making a decision and then confidence in the decision that you made, you know? I think that's actually a really good point because you don't, A, you don't feel like you need
Starting point is 00:27:27 to have that confidence all the time because others are doing it for you. It's certainly not explicit. It's not like Nick's sitting there saying, well, there's four other people here. I don't have to choose. They'll do it for me. But it happens. You know, there's that repetitive, I've made a choice, and I have seen the consequences of that choice, whether they be good or bad, and it develops a confidence in your ability to choose. And maybe that just wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, I think you're right. Anyway, these are the fun things you learn when you raise your children. And it is a time-consuming prospect. All right. Well, with all that said, it's time for us to get a little news out of the way. It is time for the news, brought to you by the Diablo show, which put up a brand new show yesterday, episode yesterday. And when I say, we or they, I mean me. It's a little solo show I do about the video game Diablo.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Diablo, all the Diablos, but right now, obviously, four is a big focus. and this was technically the end of season two. I do eight episodes per season. And prior to this, it was a lot more than that, but I called it season one. Anyway, long story short, a brand new episode out. Talk about the tail end of that beta that just ended,
Starting point is 00:28:43 what we're looking forward to when it comes to June. Dude, that beta is so good. Everything about that game. I'm so excited. I can barely handle it. I can barely stand waiting two months for this. I don't know how I'm going to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I don't know how I'm going to do it. Anyway, if you want to hear it, all about that and a bunch of hot takes and a whole bunch of listener feedback about their experience in the game and the beta, find that show wherever you get your podcast. That's The Diablo Show or you can find it
Starting point is 00:29:10 at frogpants.com slash Diablo today. I'm going to have to listen to the Diablo show. You should. Because I've always known I was going to play. Diablo is just one of those things. The new Diablo comes out every once in a blue moon. And you're going to play it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And it's like, I'm going to play it. But I wasn't like, like, champing at the bit for it yet, right? Sure. And then, you know, I pre-ordered it, but I didn't even get into the first round of beta testing, you know, because I wasn't, you know, like, I'll play it when it comes. And I'm not a big beta person anyway. So I'll play it in June when it comes out. Yeah, I don't want to spoil stuff and all that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:53 This one, that's exactly right. But this time, and I don't, I don't, I'm not. I don't often like to replay things for some reason. But anyway, this time I was like, you know what? I'll just, I'll check it out. I'm not doing anything else. And man, it got its hooks in me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So. It's good, man. It's really good. It's like they captured the sauce that makes those always good. And I really like the direction it's taking. And I go into, of course, all those details on the show. So do check it out. See what you think. And let me know your thoughts, dear listener.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And let's move on to a new. story. How about this one? This is weird. Wheel of Fortune host Pat Sejack tackled a contestant in a bizarre moment that has fans puzzled. Was this on television? Yeah, this happened live. So I'm going to pull up this video. Oh, I have to see this. You have a link as well, I believe. Yeah. And we'll try to suss this out because it's a little confusing. All right. So there's a screen shot in this article is nuts. The screenshot is already kind of crazy. So it says during Tuesday's episode, this is last Tuesday, a game show player named Fred revealed he's a man of many challenges, which include being a drama teacher, bar trivia host, and professional wrestler.
Starting point is 00:31:06 When he admitted, he gets paid very little to participate in the sport. Fred said he wrestled for the fun. Then Willa Fortune showcase the player's successful puzzle wins for the night on their official YouTube channel during the Hawaiian theme show. What happened at next is pretty insane. Once he made the bonus round, he guessed the puzzle in three attempts for the phrase category. Co-host Vanne White revealed the letters of the puzzle. His mind was wandering.
Starting point is 00:31:31 That was what the puzzle was, H-I-S and so on. After Fred won the bonus round, the host announced he was taking home $75,800, and the player appeared emotional with his major Wheel of Fortune win. So here he is. Look at this chat. He's all stoked. Arms out, beard high, ready to rock. You know, he's really excited.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Won his money. Suddenly, Sejack ran over to the player and tackled him. he attempted to bend his arm behind his back and grabbed his face with the other arm while pulling him into somewhat of a headlock what they think happened was Pat Sejack was like trying to have it was supposed to be a fun thing
Starting point is 00:32:12 of like well he says he's a wrestler let's let's test this I think maybe that maybe it was too weird that's a little too weird you know I can't find a video But I see all the pictures I thought the video is in here
Starting point is 00:32:29 No it's not is it I thought it was linked here Hold on we're gonna find this Because I want to see it happen YouTube has to have this Pat Sayjack Tackles can
Starting point is 00:32:39 It's the first search sweet Okay Alright here we go I'm gonna play this We'll see what happens here I don't want to Okay Let's go back
Starting point is 00:32:54 Oh yeah Okay, so it's a little The pictures make it look a lot worse than it is He's playing along And he was just joking with him, right? He was just being joking I think so I'm trying to see if there's another angle on this
Starting point is 00:33:10 Let's see Does Pat talk about it? Yeah, he's just goofing around That's not a big deal He just ran over and grabbed his arm And the guy immediately started playing along I think you all should be impressed that Pat Sejack can pull that off at 70, whatever he is. You know, how old is Pat Sayjack?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Hold on. How old is Pat Sayjack? He is 76 years old. Not bad. Not bad for 76. He's doing great. He's doing great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Do you think, how sick of the Wheel of Fortune do you think Pat Sejack is? Honestly. I know he's made, you know, his living there. his career there for a hot second he had a late night talk show that spun out and never went anywhere um i don't think acting ever happened for him or any of that it was basically just like i'm going to be the eternal host of this thing called the wheel of fortune he must hate it how can you not hate it yeah right he's and you probably heard all the dumb jokes that contestants make and yeah a hundred times over too like it's always the same jokes and
Starting point is 00:34:24 When I was a kid, I used to watch Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy, you know, because they were on Back-to-Beck. I used to watch those with my mom when I was growing up when I was a kid. And we had the Wheel of Fortune DOS game when I was really young. And we used to, me and my mom used to play that together because we just like playing puzzle games, right? Sure. And one day, I was always like, I loved those kinds of things. I was always pretty good at things like that, like word games and stuff like. that so so I always did pretty well and my mom would joke that that I was too good
Starting point is 00:34:59 and blah blah yeah so one day we play and we're playing and it's the the puzzle comes up and you see all the blank letters and it says and it says place yeah is the clue right it's just a place sure and and so it's my turn I go first on this round and I I I solve the I say I'm gonna solve the puzzle and my mom's like yeah what what a dumb kid I haven't even guessed any letters, and I type in The Big Apple, and I win. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, nicely done. Right. And she never played Wheel of Fortune or watched it on TV with me again. Really? That ended that. You were done. She was, like, so mad about it. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:35:43 You never know. She didn't, like, get angry, but I did notice that she didn't play it anymore. Wow. All right. Well done, dude. You're responsible, by the way, for that. I know, I know, but it's a, I wear it as a badge of honor. Sure, of course.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Real quick here, I did the math. He has been hosting this show for 42 years, 42 mother effing years. Wow. That's a long time to say, all right, spend the wheel. Okay, we got a vowel up there. Oh, my gosh, Vanna shoot me dead. Like, he must just, oh, and she's been there too the whole time, right? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Vanna White, 1980. I don't know, 81 would have been the same. Something like that. But then, so they're forever attached, right? Who was before Van der Waite? I don't know. Hold on. Original host.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Susan Stafford. Chuck Woolery was the first host. There was even a host before? Yeah. The network version was originally hosted by Chuck Willery and Susan Stafford. Who's that? Some lady. Don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Then you got Pat Sejack. And he hosted it with, yeah why oh okay 82 one year later Stafford was replaced by White so Vana White came in a year after Pat Seijack took it and they've just been there since other people have done it
Starting point is 00:37:05 Bob Goin and Rolf Bernacki Bernitschki they both did some stints but it was just like while they were away anyway so there you go oh Alan Thick wrote the theme music I don't if you knew that.
Starting point is 00:37:21 No, I didn't. Yeah. Anyway, good stuff. We've learned a lot about Wheel of Fortune today. Taco Bell story. I always got to have a food story in here, so here's this one. And lots of Taco Bell. We love Taco Bell stories.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I love Taco Bell. I'll admit it. If you said to me right now, let's go get tacos at Taco Bell. I would not turn you down. You eat them in parking lots and all kinds of things. Oh, yeah. How many was it? Five soft tacos, two crunchies and a.
Starting point is 00:37:50 and a gordita or something I ate in that in that parking lot yeah those are good times i'm reminded now of how much it was a lot it was a lot it was a carb overload it was a mistake is what it was anyway a taco bell talk about customer damages a drive-thru and threatens to shoot employees when he was told he can't order the breakfast burrito anymore it's too late in the day oh man an angry taco bell customer was arrested this week by u.s marshals i don't care said one of them just good. He didn't really say it. The Westlake Police, Westlake, interesting. That's my daughter's high school. She graduated from was called Westlake. But that's nothing to do with this.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Westlake Police Department after he damaged a drive-through speaker in a rage. He punched the drive-thru order window and then threatened to shoot employees all because he couldn't order a grilled breakfast burrito, potato burrito. Oh, man. The man pulled up to the drive-thru and attempted to order the burrito, but the employee said the store was only accepting mobile and DoorDash orders. Oh, so it's not even a time thing. The man became irate, you think? Freaking punch the thing. And smash the screen in the deal. It didn't stop there.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Says the police, the man continued around the drive-through, punched a window and threatened employees, saying that he would come back and shoot them. He eventually drove off. Police were notified about the incident and discovered that the angry would-be customer was a 28-year-old resident of Cleveland with previous felonies assault charges on his freaking record.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Cleveland. Makes sense now. I know, right? Cleveland. You can't trust Cleveland. I have friends in Cleveland. They love their tacos, their breakfast burritos in Cleveland. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Don't be telling me I can't get one. I go, although I guess what they were saying is don't do DoorDash or. See, here's the other thing I've noticed. We talked about it on the show. We've had Taco Bells here locally that just suddenly nobody's in them. Like in the middle of the day, lunch hour, that Taco Bell's empty. Why? Don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:46 No sign. No nothing. We don't know why. Is it they can't retain people? There's not enough employees to run a day shift. Is it a hundred other things? I don't know. So maybe that's what this was.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And these guys are like, well, we can only do Doors. I think it is an employee thing. Yeah, you think so? It's not as glamorous a job working at Taco Bell as it used to be. Yeah. I'm just trying to imagine, all right? I get that your average 28-year-old is maybe got reasons to be more pissed or something. But I'm trying to imagine a situation in any part of my life where I would be this guy.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I can't do it. I just don't know what this takes. What does it take to be so mad about your breakfast burrito that you break stuff and threaten to shoot people? Like I understand being a little, like, oh, okay, thanks. And then drive away. I'd do that. I wouldn't be thrilled or go, oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Thanks, guys. Thanks for letting me. I'm not doing that. But I'm not going to break things and threaten to shoot them. What's the difference? Why are some people capable of like snap? violence based on really silly circumstances like I can't get my burrito and then most of us aren't aren't what is that you're asking the right question and the fact that you're asking it is a good
Starting point is 00:41:00 thing because I think it's important to understand why people do the things that they do one of the things I when I was in school for psychology I took a I took an abnormal psychology class and one of the one lesson I really took away from that was something that the professor said which was they were in the context of abnormal psychology we're talking about like schizophrenia and stuff like that one of the things that the professor always drove home was was this idea that that to those people the decisions that they're making and the things that they're doing make sense to them it doesn't make sense to us on the outside looking in it looks very irrational even schizophrenic people who are doing weird stuff like word salad and and just like very bizarre things you know it looks very irrational and doesn't make any sense to us
Starting point is 00:41:48 but to them everything makes sense everything is following logically to them and so starting from there and that's a lesson I've carried on from that is that you've really got to make sure you put yourself even if you can't understand
Starting point is 00:42:05 where someone is coming from because sometimes it's just really hard to understand why someone is behaving the way they're behaving sure sure it's important to remember that whatever's happening there is a reason that makes sense to them and maybe it's just that they really love burritos,
Starting point is 00:42:25 breakfast burritos. Yeah, it could be that they, I mean, perceptions, everything, right? So if I see a situation and I have my own take on it, it's entirely possible that 30 other people could look at the exact same situation and see a totally different take in each case. Right. And that's all this really is. He's seeing maybe just one more in a long line of the world is going to stop me from having a good day.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And this just happens to be burrito day where the rest of us will just say, well, yeah, we all have our ups and downs, but it's not that big a deal. Just go find another burrito. Like, you're right. Like, there is a, there's value and empathy there, I think. Also in de-escalation, right? Because if you can do that, and you can see somebody else's point of view, even if it's irrational, you can get them to come down a bit instead of making it worse. Yeah, it's, what's that movie where the guy's in traffic and he just gets out and goes on a spree? Breaking Mad. No. What was that called? Michael Douglas, falling down. That's it. Falling down.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Falling down. I always want to say walking tall, but that's a different movie. Falling down and walking taller. Some kind of weird middle act. You need a third one to make sure everything's okay again. Standing up again. I don't know. But maybe that's what's going on with this guy. Maybe it was a weird falling down situation.
Starting point is 00:43:52 You know, like this was just the last straw. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. And those are the people that scare me the most. Like it's no big shock that we're dealing with another horrible school shooting since yesterday. And it always brings these. questions up in my head about you know what point what what is what is the snapping point and how can you how can we get in front of that first you know yeah we're not going to get
Starting point is 00:44:21 into the whole discussion here chat room or anyone at home because it's this thing you're going a thousand directions and i'm to be honest i don't need the heat but um yeah maybe here here's what i would here's what i'm going to suggest uh taco bell always be open and never be staffed. All right, that's it. I solved it. We're done. We did it. And maybe some stronger glass on your order window. Yeah. Yeah. Also, it is scary. Like when somebody, if somebody said to me, if I was in that situation and I worked there and they said, I'm going to come back and shoot you all, I would take that really seriously. I would call the police and I would leave. Yeah, I'd get the F out of there. I'd make the call and then go. And then everyone will have to just deal with their gorditas somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:45:07 that is it for today's news we're now going to dive directly into a segment that normally Bobby would just show up and do it toward the end of the show and it's this right here check it out science Bob is hungry and the soup looks good
Starting point is 00:45:25 sure does so Bob let's get into it we're going to talk whatever you've prepared for I don't even know we usually have a little bit of notes but you're surprising me and I like that so tell me what we're talking about today Um, you've been playing a lot of, uh, that Dyson Sphere program, right? Uh, a whole lot, an addictive, it's an addictive bastard of a game. And I love it. I'm bad at it.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Well, I read, I read an article on Ars Technica that made me think about you because of all the Dyson Sphere program you've been doing. So Dyson Sphere program for anybody who's listening. I've never actually played it, but, so Scott could probably, oh, you, dude, let me just say, do I, if I, do I know anybody who would be more into that than you? And I can't think of anyone. it's on my wish list but you know when you have like a giant you know it's like you get to a point where you're playing so many games and you're backed up and you're just like you don't have this problem because you just like you just play like three games a day and drop and like that was loud yeah you're just like I'm going to play a game I'm done with it I'm playing another one done with it yeah I kind of do I do kind of bounce around because I get a lot of codes like this morning I get three codes already and all three of them are going to get play but I'm probably not going to you know play them to fruition but once in a while one will come along that I just have to see through regardless of what it is. Like, I'm going to start it. And I'm that way with like every game. So I have to be careful about what I pick up. Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Because once I start, it's like Pringles. Games are with me. I can't, once I pop it, the fun won't stop. Yeah. Whether I want it to or not. That sounds about right. Oh, dude, you would love this game.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It's all you would do. I'm warning you now. This is like it's made for you and you'll never stop. That's the truth. Anyway. Yeah, I want to play it. I tell you. And I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And I'll tell you, I'll let you know as soon as I do because you sound very excited about it. I'm very excited. I love it. So in Dyson Spheres program, the idea, or the idea of a Dyson sphere is that you build some structure around a star that actually collects the energy from the star and you use that energy for things. It would, you know, it's not a real, Dyson spheres aren't real. They were proposed by some scientists, what you would call it Dyson. I don't know his. It's not the vacuum. guy, is it? Or is it the same guy?
Starting point is 00:47:38 No, but wouldn't that be great? That would be cool. Yeah. But, so that's a, it's just a real proposed theoretical thing, and Dyson Sphere program is all about building those. But this is where we leave the game, because I read this article on Ars Technica, written by Paul Sutter, he's an astrophysicist, who talked about the feasibility of building an actual Dyson sphere. Oh, my lord. So I thought you would find this interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I would. actually, because I'm nowhere near the part of the game where I get to build a Dyson sphere that is kind of endgame. Isn't that funny? The whole thing that the whole game is about, you've been playing for how long have you? How many hours are you ? Too many hours to even say, I don't even know I'd have to go look
Starting point is 00:48:19 but it's many, many, many hours. And I'm I've talked to others who are like, I was 300 hours before I built my sphere. And there are other people who just know how to mainline it and get there really quick. Not quick, but there's a lot you have to do. You're basically harnessing the energy and the resources of an entire solar system.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Right. And so that's the first thing that Paul Sutter in this article mentions is that Dyson Spheres, the idea is that you're surrounding the sun with panels, you know, like something like solar panels that would collect the energy of a star. Right. And you can imagine that that would take a lot of stuff to build such a giant structure that's surrounding a star. Whether it be, you know, some people talk about completely encompassing the star or it's not even necessary to do that. you could, you know, talk about only covering the star a certain percentage and stuff like that. But the idea is it would surround the whole thing. It's going to take a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. Right? So this guy did some math and said that you could do a shell. So imagine the sphere you're creating is like a shell around the star. And you can make that at different distances away from the star. But the shell would be, let's say you're going to make a shell that's a one kilometer thick and it would fill up some amount of distance around the star. It would take a mass of 2,000 Earths to do this. That's a lot of Earths.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Right. So, and I think in this imagining, we're talking about a complete sphere. This person's talking about a complete sphere. Yeah, the idea is that I've, there's all kinds of like theoretical models of how the sphere would work. But in this game, from what I can tell, from screenshots I've seen and Talley in her own chat room is building hers right now in the game. But, and I don't know how she's so good at that game. It's one of these things, and I put out a thing on Twitter saying, are there games that people love and are completely obsessed with them and just a pleasure to play, but are really bad at. That's me and Dyson's fear, for sure.
Starting point is 00:50:30 but ultimately you get to this thing where you're building out a big orbital thing on the outside of that system star and it's more of a static device rather than this you know like I was showing this one where it's like all flippy and science fictiony if that makes sense so yes right right answer your question so the so the point being like like is this is this a feasible thing right well it would when we're talking about mining materials for the this sphere that would go around a star, we're talking about taking planet amounts of materials. Like you would find a planet and you would turn that whole planet into materials for this sphere is how you would have to do this. Right. And the idea in the game is that you're tapping into essentially the essence of all these planets and gathering all their resources of every kind. There's everything from iron ore deposits to copper ore deposits, real simple stuff like that to how are you capturing hydrogen and how are you capturing, you know, like if you have
Starting point is 00:51:46 a tidal-locked planet, you can just cover it in solar panels and it will just power everything. So it's like the ultimate in exploiting your. your potential resources on your planet is what this came to all that. Because by the end of it, if this were a real scenario, by the end of it, if you were to say use Venus to mine materials, Venus would not be there anymore by the time you were done. Right. Because you have to convert the whole thing into materials. So you would need a lot of stuff for coverage. So it's not very feasible to turn a planet the size of Earth into materials for a Dyson sphere.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. Because again, this person, just to do back of the envelope math, said if you made a one kilometer thick shell around the star at Earth's distance away from the star, it would take 2,000 Earths and it would actually only produce about 0.004 of the energy that the sun is producing. Oh, wow. But that's still, that's significant. I mean, yeah, yeah, it's a lot, it's, I mean, the sun produces a lot of energy. So that's not a, it's not really a small amount. Right. But these are just like the extreme numbers that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So what you would want to do is use it, find a more massive planet to turn into material. But also doesn't it matter what, what the planet's made of? In other words, if there's a ton of, I don't know, we can find a planet that's just mostly iron deposits or, you know, metallic. For sure, for sure, there are a lot of assumptions. in this math and one of the assumptions that that he lays out is that we're assuming that the planet itself can be turned, all be turned into
Starting point is 00:53:33 useful materials for this. So this will never work is the point. Because where you're going to get too... That's kind of where it feels like this exploration of the mathematics of it ends up going. Because we have a mathematical improbability, maybe not
Starting point is 00:53:49 impossibility, of having enough material to do it. And you can't just create matter out of nothing. Right. Because, yes, you could go to a more massive planet
Starting point is 00:54:01 like, say, Jupiter, but then he talks about this in the article. Jupiter is very massive. It's many, many, many Earths. So if you need 2,000 Earths, maybe go to a planet like Jupiter,
Starting point is 00:54:12 which is thousands of Earths in mass. But there's a problem. And that is that most of Jupiter's mass is gas. Yeah, it's a big fart. Right. That's what that planet is.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I mean, look, no offense to any Jupyternians. I don't know what they're called if they live it on Jupiter. Nobody does. But you know what I'm saying. If somebody lives there, let's say an alien race that we haven't detected lives on Jupiter. No offense to you. But your planet's a giant fart in the sky.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Okay? Right. With a weird bunghole in the middle of it, the weird little bunghole thing that you got on the outside. It's a giant, the red spot. The red, yeah, the red, is it just called the red spot? What's that called? Yeah, it's the big, the giant, I think it might be even called the giant red, red giant. spot or something.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And that's actually a storm or something that just never stops, right? Yeah, exactly. That thing's crazy. All right. Well, they probably don't live there. But the point is, what if you, okay, so let's say you had three Jupiter's in our solar system, Jupiter-like planets. Okay, so let's say that's enough material, but also if you eliminate them from the solar
Starting point is 00:55:17 system's orbital conflagration, doesn't that just send us into a weird spin and we're all screwed. Yeah, all the gravity the gravity of all the planets interact with each other. So for sure and a lot of people say that the existence of planet, very massive planets like Jupiter and Saturn sort of act as a shield for the inner solar system
Starting point is 00:55:36 because of their massive gravity whenever something moves into like a comet or an asteroid or something, a large object would be coming through the solar system. The massive planets that are out there, the gas giants,
Starting point is 00:55:51 their gravity affects the orbit of those things or the trajectory of the things and it kind of deflects it away from the inner planets Oh my gosh you're making this game more interesting because the impossibility of it all
Starting point is 00:56:07 is the endgame like that's where you're aiming to do and you literally start as a guy in a yellow mech on a planet where your first thing is to go cut a tree down you know my gosh really yeah like it it's i don't want that to sound boring because it's not they they do a really good job of letting you ramp up in a way that feels really satisfying and like all right
Starting point is 00:56:33 i'm moving i got oh i got conveyor belts now oh i got i got iron and now they're converting to these plates and like it's a got it's got a really smooth transition uh but you do you literally like okay i got to kill a tree and then i got there's some stones here i'll do those and you're just walking around hacking on them and then you're just walking around hacking on them and then you're Yeah. From there. And then eventually, Dyson Sphere. And somehow the game has every step in between.
Starting point is 00:56:57 It's insane. It's crazy. You should play it. So Claire asks in the chat, so you're saying you can't mine the gas. You can mine the gas. But the problem is that all the gas on Jupiter is, it's like a bunch of hydrogen gas. You can't, it's not like you can just convert that hydrogen gas into building materials. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Right. That is correct. But there's other things. you could maybe do with the hydrogen gas and things that you might need to do because the core of Jupiter they think is about five Earth's worth of rocky stuff. So you could use that. And it would cover more space and make a larger sphere, right? But you're then at the distance away of Jupiter. Right. Which means the sphere would be larger. So you'd want to move it all closer to the star. Right. And so maybe you would have to mine all that height.
Starting point is 00:57:51 all the hydrogen off the top like you're like you're making skim milk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Skim it all off the top and use that to eventually power what you're going to have to do is move the planet. Because he says, yes, you could move it closer, but you wouldn't want to mine the planet Jupiter at the distance that it's at and then build stuff and move the built things in.
Starting point is 00:58:15 It would actually be more energy efficient to move the planet closer before you started mining it. And so that would take an enormous amount of energy. Yeah, all the energy that you don't currently have access to. You know? Like the improbability is really, it's key here. But boy, is it fun to think about, like, just the concept of it. It is a really cool article.
Starting point is 00:58:41 It's on Ars Technica. It's written by Paul Sutter. And if you find any of this interesting, I don't mean to say, like, you should, like, Dyson Sphere program, I am absolutely going to play it you've you've you've you've you've picked away at my willpower a little bit here we need something to do until diablo comes out for real so you know yeah yeah for sure um but uh so i'm probably going to play play that pretty soon and so this is just it's fun like you said it's fun to think
Starting point is 00:59:07 about this thing that you're doing in this game and having fun doing it how impossible it would really be right yeah yeah it's it's really good you guys like i talk about it on core incessantly so many of you who hear that show are probably already sick of me talking about it but well i will say one thing before we wrap this conversation up about this article on Ars Technica this article doesn't mention
Starting point is 00:59:30 it but I have heard people say that a Dyson sphere is probably as we've just talked about pretty unlikely. It's not very feasible. But a lot of people say that making a bunch of small robots and creating what they call a Dyson swarm
Starting point is 00:59:46 would be more feasible and that that might be something that... Right? Because it doesn't need to be one giant enclosed structure. Yeah. It can be a bunch of small robots with solar panels on them that somehow have a way to beam energy back to a single location, right?
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah, and they'd be modular. So if you had a situation where everything means maintenance of some sort, you just have five of them fly back into town to get worked on. And there's maybe a little hole to who cares. It's still collecting energy. You can send them back in. Oh, we got. part of Ray 5 is blinking out okay fly him home let's take a look I don't know why I'm thinking about
Starting point is 01:00:28 maintenance but you know you got to think of these things you can't just think of these things yeah you got to think of all these things but I love the concept of it like I don't think you know our lifetime we're not going to see any shit like this but I love it and I hope my my kids maybe my grandkids I don't know I hope some of you I hope someone who's alive today can experience these sorts of things before they die. Yeah, that would be amazing. Talley makes the good point that without a solid structure like a sphere, the solar sails that get them there,
Starting point is 01:01:01 because that's probably what you would use. That'd be the most efficient thing. Would decay and how would you keep it where it's supposed to be? That's a really good question. I guess you could park a bunch of them into different Lagrange points, but that's a whole other topic. Oh, my gosh, yeah. LaGrange points.
Starting point is 01:01:16 They're named after that famous song by Zizi, That's where that came from, everybody. Just kidding. Not true. La Grange. Let me ask you this. One final question. Have you seen the movie Sunshine before?
Starting point is 01:01:28 No, I have not. So this is Peter, or this is Danny Boyle makes a lot of great movies. Oscar winning director, Danny Boyle. And he made a movie called Sunshine, which starred Killing Murphy, freaking Chris Evans before anybody knew who he was. Yeah. Like a whole bunch of MCU. people actually are in it and uh i think michel yo's in it anyway i love this movie love it love it love it to the end of time i just think it's great it's one of my favorite movies um but the concept
Starting point is 01:02:01 is the earth is getting real cold because the sun's dying or the sun is going out it's not putting out the energy it was putting out at one point so last ditch humanity effort is to put all these experts in a rocket with a giant solar sail sale sale and then they fly out to the sun for however long that takes years to take a bunch of expert people and shoot them into the sun into the sun basically yeah and then they have a way they're going to basically it's a kickstart idea they're going to they're going to throw a nuke into the sun's center oh kickstart they're kickstarting the sun they're kickstarter like they started a kickstarter right they're only looking for 10 grand but They might go over it, and I hope their stretch goals are going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Stretch goals for rebooting the sun. But basically that is it. They're going to reboot the sun. And a lot of stuff happens to get in their way, and they end up doing it. That's not really a spoiler because, well, maybe it is. But anyway, you should watch Sunshine, and then we should talk about the science around the ideas of sunshine, not its feasibility because I don't think it's very feasible. But I would love to talk about that movie in that context. Yeah, it sounds like an interesting movie.
Starting point is 01:03:14 It's really good, yeah. Highly recommend it. Some people don't like the turn it takes in the final third that if you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. I actually really like it and think it's done extremely well. So there's that. Okay, that's going to do it for that. Always good stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Let's tell people where your show is, by the way. All Around Science is a podcast you can get wherever you get your podcast. And what do you guys cover in this week? What's going on? All Around Science. That's right. Me and my host, Mora, we talk about science. stuff every week. Every week. We have not
Starting point is 01:03:46 missed a week. Have you ever had a week where you were like science? I don't want to do science today. We're doing I don't know, civics or something. We don't like science anymore. No, we have not. We always talk about science every week. We've got something for you. This Monday yesterday, the episode that released was part two of our talk about the science of sleep. Not sleep. about reading.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Oh, oh. And I fall asleep while I'm reading a lot, so maybe that's where I... Do you? Do you do that with... I mean, is it... How about audiobooks versus, like, regular books? Like, which one is this? I don't listen to very many audiobooks, but I also don't read very much. I listen to a lot of podcasts.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So I had the opposite problem. If I, I would like to listen to more audiobooks, but those put me to sleep and distract me. Like, I just have the worst time staying on task. It's like, I don't know. brain goes somewhere and the guy's talking and I'm like oh shit I missed like a whole half a chapter what am I doing my brain's in another place but if I've got a book or a tablet in front of me with words on it and I'm reading that way I don't fall asleep I stay super focused I'm like way into the thing I don't understand what's wrong with me yeah I don't know either because reading is supposed to be
Starting point is 01:05:01 really good for sleep uh sleep hygiene and it's really good for me because I I usually only get a couple pages in and I'm too tired to keep going. Yeah. But the episode that we did was about the science of reading. It ended up being split into two parts. The first part was just about the brain and reading and how that works. But the second part was all about speed reading and how that works. And that's what the episode yesterday was about.
Starting point is 01:05:27 So if you're interested in how, what, all the science around speed reading, you should check it out. I'm very interested in that. Do you guys talk about that weird thing we talked about? the we do mention bionic reading yes we do okay because that seems like that would fit into that topic pretty well um because that is basically speed reading in its in its modern form a little tease a little taste of what we talk about the speed reading is not a term that's used anymore and they just had to sort of remarked speed reading into different things like bionic reading and it's because the federal trade commission had a problem with what they were selling oh
Starting point is 01:06:05 Really? Yeah. So not allowed to speed reading, they cannot be sold anymore, so it had to be re-branded, re-marketed. Good luck to the FTC and also the FAA this week for Bobby on Thursday, where he gets to learn how to fly with a medical emergency or whatever the heck it is. All right, there you go. There's that. Also, a quick note. Today is Tuesday, and that means the beginning of what will be a many weeks-long effort for me,
Starting point is 01:06:35 to play Resident Evil 4 remake without losing my mind. Along with me for the ride will be John Jagger, my co-host or one of my co-hosts on core. This is a tradition that he and I have all the Resident Evil remake games I play on stream, and he's there for them while I do it. If you want to watch me be an idiot, today it starts at 3 p.m. 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. Mountain time
Starting point is 01:06:58 is when it'll happen at Twitch.tv.tv slash Frog Pants, Resident Evil 4 remake with me and John. tune in and check it out today at three. He's a chaperone. Yeah, he is my chaperone and makes it all somehow easier but worse at the same time. Can't explain it. He likes seeing me get into bad situations and not warning me because he knows that game back to front. He's a Resident Evil freak.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He loves it all. He doesn't get scared by it. He just loves it for the gameplay. It, uh, video, scary video games terrify me. Uh, shout out to Badger Lord who bought this game, uh, because that's the rule I have. I'm not going to put myself through this unless someone else pays money for it. Otherwise, I'm not going to pay to put myself through this trouble. But if somebody else does, I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 So that's what's happening here. And it'll be fun. Three to five on Tuesdays for the foreseeable future until I get through it anyway. And you know what will probably happen. I'll get to the end. Credits will run. And then John will go, we haven't really finished it. And I'll say what?
Starting point is 01:08:01 And he'll say, there's this whole other thing that's on disc four or whatever. Some bull crap's going to come up. I just know it. I just feel it. This happened with two remake. I hit credits. That's end for me. He's like, no, there's a whole other thing.
Starting point is 01:08:14 No. The whole game is designed to be played through multiple times. Yeah, that's the concept, I guess, but I ain't doing that. My rule was play tell there's some credits, and then I'm out. You fulfilled your, as you like to say, your fiduciary. My fiduciary duty. That's right. And still, the scariest thing I ever play was seven.
Starting point is 01:08:32 To this day, that game's so effed up. my gosh dude seven and that baby in eight the baby in the basement and eight these are all horrible things that happened and i've only played a little bit of four back in the day on the game cube and i got chicken and quit playing so which was the which one was the one that made you prematurely and abruptly end the stream that was resident evil seven i think part of seven and i was just like i i can't do this this is this terrible goodbye everybody you know like it's just really gets me which is so stupid because I can then turn around and watch eight really gnarly horror movies in a row and they don't
Starting point is 01:09:09 bother me at all. It's about me being in a place where I have to control the outcome and my brain feels differently about that. If I see a slasher movie or a genuinely scary horror movie, I'm enjoying it for what it is, but I'm not worried because I can't control what this idiot on screen is going to do. He's going to do whatever he does with or without me, right? Right. But in a video game, none of this happens without me interacting with it,
Starting point is 01:09:37 and I just know I'm going to screw it up. It's a weird thing with me. But anyway, that's tonight. 3 p.m. check it out. We'll be right here today playing that. You've got to get psyched up for it. In the meantime, please join us on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS.
Starting point is 01:09:52 No commercials ever. Pre-show content every day. Couch parties on the weekend. All this weekend is this Friday will be our play date. So Friday from 10 a.m. to noon, we'll be playing something. Don't know what it is yet, what we're doing. Maybe we haven't played among us in a bit, so maybe we'll do that again. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Bobby, you're always welcome to those, by the way, if you're around. I was just about to say, maybe I'll see if I can join you guys. Yeah, you're always welcome if you're around for that stuff. That and anything else we do on the extra. So anyway, if any of this sounds interesting to you, then go sign up. Patreon.com slash TMS. Big thanks to everybody who already did. And we picked winners in the Patreon for a little content.
Starting point is 01:10:32 contest we did in there separate from what we do with the morning form. So congrats to those three folks and your stuff is already on their way. We sent them yesterday. So you should see them in mail shortly. All right. We're going to play a song at the end. Brian left me a little snippet of music to play for you guys while he's out of town. So big thanks to him for doing that. This is a request from Chuck Gaskill who says, hello, Scooter and Brandy Buck. You mentioned a good cover by War Pigs or of War Pigs by T. Payne on episode 2439. of the show this cover by puddles pity party is awesome as well i think you both enjoy it feel free to use it as fill in if you don't have any other birthday or other requests keep up the show
Starting point is 01:11:13 keep up the hobo though chuck all right chuck guess what he's even brian was here for you he found the song that you that you liked and he's going to play it uh so that's going to happen right now bobby thanks again for hanging with me today really appreciate it any time at all yep Unless you're in the air. Any time at all, except for when I can't. Except for that. It's a good way of putting it. Anyway, we'll be back.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Let's see. Tomorrow with a show, Brian will be remote from Vegas, but doing a show from there, and I'll be here. And then Thursday back to sort of normal. Okay, everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Thanks for hanging with us.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And we'll see you next time. General's gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction In the fields the bunnies burning As the war machine keeps turning Death and hatred to mankind Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Starting point is 01:12:56 Well, a yeah Politicians Politicians Politicians Politicians they only started the war why shouldn't they go out to fight they leave that role to the poor
Starting point is 01:13:45 time will tell on their power in minds making war Just for fun Treating people Just like pawns in chess Wait till their judgment day comes Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:26 Now in darkness, world, world stops turning. rushes where the body's burning No more war pigs have the power Hand of God has struck the hour Day of judgment God is calling On the knees the war pigs crawling begging mercy for their sins Satan laughing spreads his wings
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