The Morning Stream - TMS 2444: Passive Aggressive Bingo

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

The Left-Handed are Sinister. I'm Brian Ibbott, Prepare to be Touched! We had Zoe at Bacon. Seriously, I'm not drunk. I've only had 15 drinks so far. No Strip Trip. Kia Soul gets Tired. Schrodinger's Revolving Restaurant. In The Territory Of Awkward. Baby Fart Doodoo dododo (like Dunaway). Welcome to the Hotel Wifi Brian. Such a lovely face. It's not just for the gambling. There's also the hookers and cheap weddings. We Are Carvers Bum Bum Bum Bum Bum Bum Bum. Full Throated Relaxation with Tom. Recommentals with Nicole's Mom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, the left-handed are sinister. I'm Brian Abbott. Prepare to be touched. We had Zoe at bacon. Seriously, I'm not drunk. I've only had 15 drinks so far. No strip-trip. Keosol gets tired.

Schrodinger's revolving restaurant. In the territory of awkward. Baby fart. Welcome to the hotel. Wi-Fi, Brian. Such a lovely place. It's not just for the gambling. There's also hookers and cheap weddings.

We are carvers. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum Full throated relaxation with Tom Recommentals with Nicole's mom and more on this live from Las Vegas episode of the morning stream In Avengers Infinity War

Thanos uses the infinity gauntlet with his left hand In Avengers end game Both the Hulk and Iron Man use the infinity stones with their right hands This is a nod to the fact that left-handed people are evil What rules you sons of bitches The morning stream. Oh, yeah, that's quite a story.

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, March 29th, 2020, three. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibit, and he is in Las Vegas. I am deep in the pit of Las Vegas. Yeah. Currently staying in the North Tower of the Plaza Hotel, which I've never stayed in. I've always been, we've always been in the South Tower for all of the different TMS Vegases.

But North Tower is nice. Remind me, which side was the Pizza Place on? Was that North or South? Pizza Place is South. Okay. So North Tower is right by the Hash House of Go-Go. Gotcha. All right.

I guess I've been in both in 2019, I think I was in the north tower. Yeah. And it was kind of a pain because the pool and everything, well, maybe you could access from both towers? I can't remember. Do you have to go south? I mean, you can go across. The level three goes between both towers. So you can go up to level three and go across.

Level three also has bingo. And, you know, when you go into the plaza, you can't help but notice. that their signs all say, hey, we have the best bingo in Vegas as rated by the Las Vegas Review Journal and the Las Vegas Sun and all these other places. And so I decided, you know what, I'm going to partake. I've never played bingo in Las Vegas ever. So let's play bingo. It's a very interesting experience. So you go in, if you have a card, you actually get what's called matchplay.

If you spend $25 bucks on cards, they give you another $25 worth of cards free. So you have to make sure you've got your Plaza Rewards card. Those of you coming, there's a camera. Those of you coming to TMS Vegas, this should be the first thing you do is get a Plaza Rewards card because it gets all sorts of stuff. Whether you play games or not. Nice. So I get my cards or I pay my money and I get a little receipt and it says, all right, here's your here's your packet number. You have your choice of either getting a physical paper packet and you have to

buy some dobbers and dob your little colored circles. Or you can play it electronically and every station has a touchscreen monitor. So you've got a little space where you can put your paper stuff or you get a little touch screen monitor. I'm like, well, listen, I'm Brian in it. I do everything touchscreen. That's right. So I'm definitely doing the touch screen bingo. Yeah, there's never been, is there a screen Brian hasn't touched? I don't think so. I touch screens. I'm not even supposed to touch. So I go and sit down. I pick any station. I happen to pick one that was station number 13 because I don't believe in superstition. No. So I sit down at number 13 and I punch in my little packet code and up comes my cards. I'm like, oh, great. And the session's

start in a minute and they give me two free drinks. So I'm getting my gin and tonics at 11 o'clock in the morning. Great. Okay. That's fine. We're Vegas. Sure. Why not? It's five o'clock somewhere So I have all set And they call the first number And I get ready to touch the screen And it shows my cards and I'm likely goes And already lights up that number on all my cards

Oh, okay Is it telling me where I need to touch? So I start touching, it's like nothing's happening They call another number, that number lights up I'm like, oh, okay, so really I just sit here and watch my cards fill themselves out So it's just passive, passive being You just...

It's passive bingo, yeah. So if you do electronically, you don't daub, you just basically sit there. So I sat there and I caught Pokemon while my bingo cards filled out. Wow. I don't know. I'm trying to think how... Did it feel like less of a... I don't know.

It just feels like you're watching a thing instead of doing a thing. It feels less interactive, but what I really like about it, and this is something that you don't get as easily with the paper cards is that for each game, I had something like 18 cards. because of the packets I bought. And it only shows six at a time on your screen, but it shows you your best six. So if you've got, you know, if you're just going for a regular five in a line bingo and you've got three spots marked,

that's the card it's going to show first. And that's going to show one where you've got your two away from, or four away from a bingo or whatever. Right. And so it ranks your cards and shows you, of those six you see on screen, it automatically sorts and shows you the cards where you are closest.

So that way you can say, oh, all I need is I-19 and I win 200 bucks or whatever. So I kind of like that. Is it a new thing there that they just put this in or was it always there? It was always there. It's on level three right across from one of their two jerky stores. Oh, I'd seen the jerky store, but I didn't realize there was bingo in there. That's cool. Yeah, yeah.

So it's really, you know what, I encourage anybody if you've never played bingo at the plaza. go there in a group like the TMS Vegas group any cluster of a dozen of you or five of you or whatever way more fun because you're kind of sitting there you're like oh look I'm like five away

you know that sort of thing but that was pretty cool that's wild yeah the plaza on the whole the whole entrance is construction city because as you know they're changing the front of the plaza there

they're changing that domed Oscar's Steakhouse, which is right outside my window. I'm on level three myself. I'm actually, I can walk out my door and be at bingo in under 10 seconds. Oh, wow. Out, left, and down a little ramp. This explains why Kim couldn't get around there in the traffic, because they were, I think some of that stuff was blocked off while they were doing construction out front.

It is, yeah. If you're, and if you're taking a lift, like right now taking a lift to Plaza, they've got to drop you off way down by the pop-up pizza exit, which is not an entrance. which means you have to walk all the way down to where the entrance is, which is kind of a bummer. So they're changing Oscar's Steakhouse. Underneath that domed Oscar's Steakhouse is going to be the carousel bar, which is a circular bar.

One person says it rotates, another person says it doesn't. Bernadette says it does, and then Victor, who's also another plaza employee, says that it won't, so I have no idea. I love it. We're going to have to find out what happens. That's great. Until they get things working, we actually might also have to, like, grab the fence and just kind of pull along to get it to rotate.

Yeah. I love that idea. That's awesome. So, wait a minute. So what happened to Oscars? Oscar, I guess maybe there was never a real Oscar, but, you know, they're just going to be done. Oh, no.

No more Steakhouse. Oh, no, no. Oscar's Steakhouse is still going to be Oscar's Steakhouse. They're just redoing that dome. So it's still going to be Oscar's Steakhouse. And then Pinkbox Donuts is coming. Oh, yeah. All of these things.

Kim's excited. It's very skeletal framework right now, like not even drywall walls. There you see those metal framing, but no drywall. So four weeks, three weeks, whatever it's going to be. Question whether or not we're going to have any of that stuff finished. The front will be easier to access, I think. I think you'll be able to get, you'll be able to park in front because they'll probably have the facades up and stuff. So they can work inside those areas.

It'll be a nice 20-24 preview, you know? I think so. Yeah, because we'll look at it and go, oh, that place is coming in. I'll see you next year. Exactly. But while you're waiting for that, and you're like, you get up and you're like, I don't know if I want Hach House a go-go for breakfast or you want lunch. And it's like, I don't know if I want pop-up pizza or the little McDonald's-y food court. There's a new dining hall in Fremont, the Fremont Hotel, which is just down Fremont Street, two blocks.

And it's got a Dunkin' Donuts, a Shake Shack, but then a few, like, unique restaurants. There's a place called Roli Roti or Roti-Roli or something like that, and it's got really good sandwiches and sides like fried plantains and stuff like that. It looks really, really good. Bakery Market. What else? There's a few things in there, like a ramen place, I think, or a noodle place.

So this is the one that says Huey Magoos, Tomewoo's chicken, yep. Okay, I'm going to pull this up so people can see it. Check the fidget. This is in our Discord, but this is, yeah, this looks awesome. And this is in the Fremont Hotel? It's in the Fremont Hotel, which is just down, like you said, two blocks on the left side when you walk out from the plaza. So down Fremont Street, so you're there in five minutes. There's no way I'm not getting a Huey Magoos.

I'm going. I know. I know those chicken scripts look awesome. I think I might go there for a pre-flight dinner before I head to the airport. Plus that name, man. Name something more fun to say than Huey Magoos right now. There's nothing. Huey Magoos.

Yeah. So there's that. Also, the plaza has added stadium gaming. So you remember that section, they really had no idea what to do with that. And it's, when you're in the casino area, and you've got the table games and then you've got that bar. To the left of that, there was this open space that looked like they didn't know what to do with. I think there might have been a band there at one point.

Yeah. I wondered about that. I never asked, but I didn't even ask to you even. But I remember thinking, this is a weird little corner that no one's using. It is, yeah. Well, now they're using it for what's called stadium gaming. And a few other casinos have had this for quite a while,

and I'm really glad to see it added here. So it's a bunch of little pods. You sit at your own little pod, a little video screen in front of you, and then give more touchscreens. Sweet. Perfect. And then in front of all of these pods are a roulette wheel, a pop-a-matic trouble craps thing, you know, the little glass dome with bouncing dice in it.

What looks like a blackjack table, what looks like a, I don't know what else, a Wheel of Fortune kind of looking thing. And you sit at your pod and you basically say, oh, I want to play craps. and you can be sitting there with your friend who like, I don't like craps, I like blackjack. You're sitting right next to them hanging out, chit-chatting. You're playing craps. They're playing blackjack or whatever.

And so it's kind of a way to hang out and play the games you want to play without having to be in two different parts of the casino. It's actually really cool. There you go, Chad. I'm putting it up as well, and you can see this. Yeah, this looks like, it reminds me that little corner of the MGM, even though that had like arcade stuff, but it has the similar vibe of like. No, and that corner also does have stadium gaming right by that dance-dance revolution that you and I were on and stuff like that.

So they have that at the MGM Grand too. Here's the thing that's really cool. So I sat there and I played craps there for about an hour while I was waiting to meet James and Svet. Actually, while I was waiting to meet Katie Talmo, who I had drinks with yesterday. She's awesome. Nice. I started playing craps, and then like the little tip thing on the side says, Did you know you can add a game?

So I'm like, really? So I can play craps and blackjack at the same time. All right, let's try this. Okay. So I added, it was basically like, like, kind of like that new, what's the new thing on iOS? Maybe that's called Center Stage, where you've got all of your open apps to the left. Oh, that is Center Stage. Yeah.

Center stage. Okay. Yeah. So that's what this was kind of like. So I'm basically like, craps. Oh, I roll. an eight. Great, eight is the point. All right, let me put out a combat, and then this, and then I tap

that over there for Blackjack, and then that screen goes big, and it's like, okay, deal. Oh, let me hit that. All right, click back to craps. And basically, I'm, like, juggling two games, you know, at the same time. Sure. Both active, actively playing, and then trying to drink while I do this. They're bringing me free drinks, so it's like,

ah, okay. From playing those, I started with 50, and I left that area with $184. Not bad. $134, I'll take it. Not bad. The house doesn't always win, people. That's right. Not when Brian's in the house. No.

Hell no. So I used some of that money for joining James and Svet who celebrated their 18th anniversary of being together last night. I'm sorry, night before last. And it's the second anniversary of their marriage. Oh, nice. Because they're smart and they make sure all their anniversaries happen on exactly the same day

so that it's less dates for anybody to remember. We were supposed to be there that year for that wedding. Remember that? We were, I know, it's going to be awesome. At the Desi Arnaz Jr. Theater. It was going to be great. It sucks. We miss that.

So we go out to a place to eat last night called Carvers. Carvers? We have a Carvers here. I wonder if it's the same. Big, expensive steak place? Yeah, very expensive. Yes, yes. That sounds like the same thing.

Yeah. Our table wasn't ready, so we just went next door for a drink and we sat at the bar and right next to us was this guy who was here for the pizza expo. Here's been there's a pizza expo going on right now. Who are the celebrity speakers? Is it like Papa John and

things like that? Chef Boy Ardee. Yeah, Chef Boy RD. The Noid. I think the Noid gave the keynote speech. I would sit in a giant packed audience to listen to the Noid talk. I would totally do it. Wow.

So we're sitting there. We're chatting with him. He's telling us about the Expo and that sort of thing. And the bartender comes over, gives us some waters, and then she comes back over to get our drinks. And she first looks over at Robert, this guy that, you know, sitting over there next to us. Sure. And he says, oh, no, take care of them first. Now, I heard that clearly. Yeah. And say that to the bartender. Yeah. What James and Svet heard is, I'll take care of them. I'll take care of their drinks. Oh. Oh.

So the bartender comes over. This guy next to me says, I'll take care of them first. And immediately, James and Spend, like, oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Oh, my God. It's so nice. And I'm like, at what point, I feel like I need to say something so it doesn't get

awkward when the bill comes. Yeah, no matter what, you're in the territory of awkward now. It's just a matter of when do you tell them, how do you break the news? Exactly. Yeah. I don't want to embarrass anybody. I don't want to embarrass Robert. I certainly don't want to embarrass James and Svet.

No. So I just kind of like, I kind of let it go. And then when the bill comes, I say, you know what? Let me take care of this. And I'd give them my card. And I'd like alleviate the entire situation by saying, I got this. That was a deft way to do it, except it was you paying. But then, of course, you want a little money.

So, you know. I want a little money. It was worth it. And as we're walking out of the bar, Svet says something like it was really nice to you Brian but you know that guy he should have jumped in and offered to pay the tab because he said

you wouldn't I said well actually Oh Dang what did they say to that They probably were like shit we didn't They laughed their heads off We laughed about that all through dinner All through that very expensive dinner that I was so Not really drunk but I had spent

The entire Like I ate lunch it at noon went to the new Bacon Nation. Oh, Bacon Nation. Look at this photo while you're telling me about that. Look at this, chat. Oh, that's their French toast box. So it's a box of bread cooked French toast style filled with bacon, bananas, like caramelized bananas,

and then topped with a peanut butter moose and some whipped cream. And I basically just, you know. Good Lord. Sugar coma from that. I really wanted to come back to the room and just sleep for a couple hours after I ate that. Look how thick that is, though. Man. It's a box, yeah.

I mean, it's not one thick piece of bread. It is a hollow box. I don't know how they do it if they assemble it differently, but I'll be honest. It was good, but it wasn't great. It was really sweet. I was hoping for more savory with the bacon a little bit. more balance, but the whole thing was just, like, really sweet and sugary. Nobody tell, uh, nobody tell, uh, nobody tells Zoe. Yeah. Yeah, that's all right.

You know, they have a menu full of stuff. They have a savory French toast thing, though I wouldn't mind going back and trying at some point. Nice. Like French toast with, um, cheese and sausage and stuff inside it, which is like, all right, that sounds freaking awesome. So the car, the Carver's dinner, you guys started at like 1145 at night or something. It was, It was, yeah, it was 9 o'clock here, so 10 o'clock your time when I texted you. So from the time I had lunch at noon and played craps and played bingo and played, oh, and then went to a bar with Katie Telmo, and then went to another bar with James and Svet, and then went and had drinks before our table was ready. Oh, I had drinks at the Sand Dollar when I was taught when we were talking to them about the location.

By that point, I had had a lot of drinks. I wasn't drunk, as evidence, by the way, I ran. through that hallway. No, clearly not. In a completely sober fashion. Sure. But by the time, by the time food came, I, like, devoured my Caesar salad and then was like, yeah, this steak is really good.

I basically sent James and Svet home with two-thirds of a $45 steak. Damn. That's all right, though. They'll eat that. I'd eat that. That sounds great. Carvers is really good, but it's really expensive. Yeah.

Yeah. But they're good. I like them. Really, really good. Anyway, so, bottom line, good night. Sandaller, after seeing, you know, seeing it again in a better setup. Because last time, the only other time I was here, there were bands going on. And so I couldn't get a real good read of how much space there would be for everybody. No problem for TMS Vegas.

It's going to be a great location for us. Yeah, I'm looking at, here, chat, let's see if I can show this one here. There's the interior. I love these little old school booths. Yes. And the band's on just the opposite side of that, right? Like when I say band, I mean the stage will be on, it'll be on the opposite side of it.

The stage will be on. Yep, exactly. And the big question was sight line tests. So we're actually going to be sitting in front of the stage because it's a fairly narrow gap in front of the drum kit with the sound isolation. that acoustic plexiglass shield that the drums are on. Sure.

So we'll actually be sitting off the stage in front in a very big dance area. So I went and sat in one of the booths and had James sit with his back against the stage. And it's like, oh yeah, no, even from there, you won't want to put your shortest people in the back of the booth. But so Claire, you're going to want to sit maybe down the front row.

Sure, sure. Get down low. like family photos we need to see you okay right exactly but uh yeah no sight line is great from this whole place and their their drink list is awesome a lot of beers on tap i mean it's it's gonna be a great location i'm super stoked so that that solidifies that that makes me excited to hear that yes yes keeps things in a nice little zone so people aren't having to scramble for lifts and ubers exactly and we're losing people because they're running over here to get some to drink and they've got um so pop-up pizza works with

sand dollar so you get flatbread pop-up pizzas in sand dollar like that you can't get over at pop-up pizza so like if you want like your own little pepperoni flatbread pizza then you get that at sand dollar yeah these guys already make great pizzas like yeah when you hear pop-up pizza you're like oh that sounds like bad pizza it's not it's great like new york style amazing pizza so the fact that they're doing that means i'll be not hungry while in the uh in the uh in the sand dollar i will always have something available to me you will always have something available so yeah there you go keep those carbs gone there is the whole uh Las Vegas update I haven't even set foot on the strip I'm not gonna even set foot on the strip this trip which is rare for me

usually I try and I try and spend some time on the strip checking out new stuff there but no no strip trip no strip trip is what we call this right I know strip trip I just found out yesterday that um so Kim just went to Vegas right to Carter and her friends yeah we're going again, obviously, the end of this month for this. And then I found out we're going there, Mother's Day, a weekend. Oh, really? Yeah. In May?

Yeah, so we're going in May. I don't know, I don't know why so much freaking Vegas this year, but. Wow. What's the occasion in Mother's Day? Just Mother's Day. Kim wants to go. And Dylan and Tay have some time off, so they want to go then. We're going to take the kids.

And the idea is that while we're dorking around at a pool with the babies, those two can go, because Dylan has never really been to Vegas other than he used to go there for soccer tournaments in high school. He's never really gone, like proper gone. Oh, he went to a Steelers game not long ago. Okay. But they literally went in, saw the Steelers game,

got in the car and drove home. So, Raiders. Raiders. I keep saying Steelers. I don't know why I do that. I always do that. Yeah, didn't you hear, Brian, while you were running around that thing with your camera,

they changed teams. The whole NFL had a shuffle. Pittsburgh and Vegas swapped. Yeah. Yeah, it's only temporary, but they're pretty happy about the arrangement. But anyway, so we're going to give them a chance to sort of couple it up and go do all their stuff while we hang around pools and stuff. So, yeah, it'll be good.

At first I was like, oh, that might be too much Vegas. But then I realized, well, it's a different kind of Vegas. Like, what I'm doing with TMS Vegas is very different than what we would be doing in May or any other trip out there. You wouldn't have time, right? You know, when we do, when we do TMS Vegas, you and I especially, it's, it's less of a vacation for us. It's more like work. It's fun work and we love it.

It's fun work, exactly. But it's still work. Yeah. Even more so for Brian, he's got so much of the on the ground planning crap. Right now I'm in like panic mode, just trying to make sure swag bags happen exactly the way they're supposed to and are shipped when they're supposed to and that we have enough of them and all this kind of stuff. once I get to the bottom of that and get out there I get to relax a little more than Brian does

because on the ground stuff in Vegas it's all Brian all right yeah yeah it's self-induced by the way Brian Brian's a he's a self-flagellator and really likes to go nuts with this stuff but it's to your benefit if you're coming you will directly benefit from Brian's

curation of wonderful Vegas experience you'll benefit for Brian's self-flagellation yes that's one way of looking at it All right. Well, I wanted to share, since we're on the topic of Vegas, some myths about Vegas, okay? Yeah, cool. I like this. These are myths according to the review journal. You mentioned them earlier in passing. These are nine myths about Las Vegas. So this might help any newcomers, people like Claire, I've never been here before.

Sure. Here's number one. The most ridiculous myths about Las Vegas. You are tricked or drugged into gambling more. That's a real myth, people believe. Yeah. I mean, okay, I will say that it's not, it's not completely a myth. Oh. The fact that there are no clocks and very few windows in a casino, keep you from thinking about what time it is. So in a way, that is a way of tricking you into gambling more

because you're not focused on a clock or looking, oh my God, it's dark outside all of a sudden where the day goes. So I'd say that is kind of, it's in there. Like when they don't put a lot of. seating in a casino for you just to chill and hang out? The only seating in the casino is like dead set in front of a machine. In front of a machine.

So there's a little bit of that going on, sure. I agree. You can make the argument. Here's one. People only visit to gamble. It's not true. It's conventions. Visit family. Lots of reasons. Great restaurants. Like I

can easily come to Vegas and never put a coin in a slot machine or a roll of roll a dye on a table like i could easily just come here for for a show some dinner pool time totally looking some numbers here back in 2015 well i guess it had been the previous year 2014 there were 22 000 conventions held in las vegas nevada that's a lot the pizza convention yeah yep that that is a real thing actually the week we're there i think oh who is it that's there it might be beths

is doing their elder scrolls online event kind of their blizzcon sort of ish anyway there's always something you know and sometimes it's it's not always the avian awards and uh ces sometimes they're not those things there's plenty of other things there right another myth um all right the games are all fixed and you're never going to win that's a myth brian won yeah i mean it's uh there's every game has a house edge um the FCC controls slots and things like that to make sure that they are you know not too heavily weighted in the house's favor but over time on slot machines there's a house advantage so you'll you might get lucky but chances are the longer you play

the more likely it is you're going to give money to the house and and your table games there's knowledge and skill involved but obviously it's all based on chance and it's again all based on a house advantage sure um blackjack if you play by the the blackjack rules which includes surrender on a 16 stuff like that it's the it's the lowest house advantage at like half

a percent so 49 49.75% of the time you'll win 50.25% of the time the house will win do you figure if you brought in some kind of rain man guy and you did what rain man did that they would uh you'd get pulled into some room and then told to never

come back? Do you think that happened? Probably. I mean, you know, there are cameras all over the casino and they are looking for things like card counting and stuff like that, which is way harder to prove than Rain Man would have you believe. Right. You know, you can, and you can certainly do things to mitigate making it obvious that you're card counting, but card counting does give you that house advantage because you're basically saying even though, even though if all things being equal, I could win this hand with the cards I have based on my card count. It's way more likely that a bust card is going to come up so I'm going to stand and just basically doing stuff like that. Another stat from 2014, $9.6 billion in gaming revenue that year.

Wow. That's a lot. I'd love to see what it's looked like over the past few years. Yeah. Are things back up to where they were in 2019 for Vegas? Or you know or maybe there's more maybe there's still less yeah I don't know right right I'd be curious as well those numbers probably exist somewhere yeah there's another myth that there are no such things as small businesses in Vegas not true not true at all yeah there's tons of small businesses in fact uh let's see technically the plaza is a is a when compared to all of the other hotel casinos it's a small business because it's not part of a boyd gaming or mGM gaming or Caesar's gaming. It's its own, it's not part of a chain.

And all those, you know, all the restaurants we talk about, maybe not all of them, some are national, but lots of them are homegrown there. Sure. The place we threw axes as a home, you know, small business, somebody ran. Of course, of course, it's more than just like MGM owning everything. Of course. Yes, exactly. Here's one I like. People work in Las Vegas, but no one lives in the city. Absolutely not true. Tons of people live in the city. They just do. They may not love it all the time. I don't know.

I think the Jen lives in the city. I don't know. I know James and Svet obviously live in Boulder City. Katie lives out in Perump. Perump. That's such a fun place. Terrible name for a city of any kind. Perump.

Yeah. What about Shojo? Does Shogio? Oh, well, she's in the chat. Chojo, do you live? You don't live in the city. You live out in like the suburbs of Vegas. Yeah, she's out there.

Yeah. right yeah north Las Vegas that's right north Las Vegas okay yeah which is very uh you know very different than the south end it's like you know tons of neighborhoods and very um well and technically the south end of like when you're on the strip you're not in Las Vegas you're in Paradise yeah that's right you're in a town you're in a city called Paradise not in Las Vegas it's so weird wow it's just so weird how people have like I don't know it is Vegas is what it is but it isn't always what you think it is.

Exactly. Fine. I'll just read this last one here. Buffets are for cheap, bulk eating. No. They're not cheap anymore. Cheap is the fallacy. Yeah.

That used to be true. I mean, it used to be a long time ago. That was like a selling point. Come down here for cheap food, cheap hotels, and then spend all your money gambling. That has changed quite a bit. Yeah. There are some cheap buffets still to be had, but those buffets you really, you really do get what you pay for.

You go to the Excalibur, King's Buffet or Knights Buffet or whatever it's called. I think it's $29, and you feel like you're easily getting $10 worth of actual food. Yeah, that is true. I'd still, and, you know, if you've never done a buffet and you really want to while you're here in Vegas for TMS Vegas, take my advice, either do Wicked Spoon at Cosmopolitan or Bacchanal buffet, at at uh seizures

those are just those are the two mentioned on this list that you just said those are the two best yeah they really are i've never done wicked spoon i have done bacchanal and what's the other oh someone told me that the palms um what's it calls it here yeah bistro buffet oh really that's supposed to be really good and you can get endless crab legs for about 20 bucks and they're supposed to be good like not not garbage so that's not bad yeah the um it's not too bad yeah that's a lot better than the prices you'll get. Baccanol is expensive, but it's got the most massive choice of food. But it's going to be a lot of things you kind of expect, right? So it's going to be

really good steaks and carved, you know, carved to order steaks and ham and and hot link and stuff like that. The benefit of Wicked Spoon is that you go there and you get stuff that you probably wouldn't think you'd see a buffet like lobster mac and cheese and bone marrow and you know a term freshly made term a suit and everything at wicked spoon well a lot of stuff at wicked spoon is already pre-portioned so you're not digging a the same ladle that everybody else's touch into a vat sitting on a steam table and plopping it on your thing you're basically grabbing a little container that's got a portion size of this and a portion size of that. I like that a lot, yeah. That's, that's even over Bacchanal, I'd still say

Wicked Spoon is my, if I am going to do a buffet in Vegas, that is the one I'll do. All right. Nice. Let's see. Oh, there is something, is the China buffet still a place? Is that a place people can go? I don't know where it is, though. Oh, my God. We've got those, you're talking like the $1.35 a scoop kind of place. Well, literally called China buffet in Vegas, and it's only 699. I don't know if this is still true. This article's a little older. So I'm not sure. But I wouldn't do that. No. No. Don't do that. Don't do that. If you want really good Chinese food, go to, uh, go to resorts world, which is the new north end of the strip, right? Just south of stratosphere. And there, they've got a dining hall that is all different kinds of Asian. You've

got Mongolian barbecue and ramen and, um, you know, your fried dishes and, uh, Korean or not Korean well Korean food and yeah yeah it was great that's the first thing I ate when I got to Vegas

last year was that stuff it was great yeah there is a place by the way over by tacos El Gordo on the north end of the

strip just in that same strip area there is an all you can eat Korean barbecue with massive kimchi like flashing Vegas light kimchi

in big lights above the above the door. Oh, I may have to... So all you can eat, I just don't know if I trust it. Yeah, like, I need some... You need some Yelp. You know, I want to see some Yelp action. I need, you know, I need, like, Medzula to say he's been there three times and trusts it or something, you know?

Because I don't know if I do, but... Well, anyway, don't believe the myths. Come and join us. Well, you're already coming. Everyone's got their tickets, or you will have your tickets, so we're very excited. Yeah, I was thinking about this, too, especially yesterday after the, the drinking before dinner. But if you've never been to Vegas before, in all things, pace yourself. Like in your spending, in your drinking, in your eating, and you're planning for running around,

all that sort of thing, don't feel like you've got to do everything in one day. Don't drink everything in one day. Don't, you know, basically say, all right, I'm here for four days for TMS Vegas, or I'm here for five days or whatever, and say, yeah, this will be a really light drinking day or maybe I won't have as much to eat because I know I'll be going out for something bigger tomorrow but yeah sure pace yourself pace yourself and drink lots of water well we're going we're not it's not like we're there in the hot of the summer but it doesn't matter always drink water doesn't matter yeah it's dry it's dry out there uh 365 days a year yeah and sometimes uh locusts come and they swarm the place yeah the grasshopper the gate the great grasshoppering yeah that's all

I think that's only like once every 80 years or something, but still. Exactly. Still. Always be ready. Always be watchful. All right. We're going to do a little bit of news. And then after that, we're going to do the whole Tom and Recommendals thing and all that.

So here we go. It's time for the news. And it turns out it's brought to you by. App base two factor authentication. It could save your ass too. Yeah. So last, uh, this was it last week? I didn't talk about it on the show, but I got someone attempted to hack a whole bunch of my stuff all at once.

Really? Oh, God. And I don't know who it was or what the deal was, but because I had big, giant ass passwords, and I use one password as my password manager, and I have two-factor on everything. This didn't work. You, yay, holes, you didn't get it. Didn't work for you. Yeah, nice try. Now, I know a lot of people are like, well, I didn't help. Linus Tech Tips on

YouTube. The famous YouTuber got a session hack. So basically he had a session token while he was on YouTube uploading stuff. A hacker some, I don't even know the details, somehow stole the session. Yeah. And then commentared it, took

everything down, took deleted all his videos, like wrecked the place. Wow. Oh my God. Wow. He got social engineered pretty hard, that guy. Jeez. Oh, poor guy. He'll be all right. He banks millions of dollars. He'll be fine. All right. Here's the story that I was going to read first. Firefighters have discovered a missing plumber. He was asleep in a crawl space under a California home the whole time. I know, right?

The plumber is coming from inside the house. It says here, a missing plumber is sparked a rescue by Los Angeles firefighters fell asleep in a home's crawl space. According to California officials, a worried homeowner called for help when the 50-year-old plumber did not return for three hours after entering the 2,100 square foot home into that crawl space there on Saturday, March 25th. The home was built in 1958 and had a three foot high crawl space beneath it. Everyone had that back then. Remember those? Wow, yes, totally. I only ever had a basement growing up, but once in a while.

My mom's house has a crawl space, and you could not, I don't do tight spaces like that. Yeah, me neither. There is no paying me to crawl under there with the spiders and the darkness and and that sort of thing. Do we know that this was a, for sure, this was a crawl space and not a warp zone? You know, now that you say it, the article doesn't specify.

So it's unfortunate. We'll never know, for sure. Yeah, I think he was just bypassing to level, level four, the water level. Yeah, he was just trying to, you need nowhere to jump and what timing and all that to do it, but he knew. He knew what to do.

It says, using special equipment for confined space rescues, firefighters spotted the plumber inside the crawl space. when they cut holes in the floor and chainsaws to rescue him. He was sleeping. He woke up and crawled out on his own. He was uninjured. I don't think I could sleep in there. Maybe there's a thing for some people where the closed cramp space is a,

helps lull you to sleep or something, makes you nappy? I couldn't do it. Did it say how long he was there? Three hours. Three hours in there. Okay. All right. Well, it's not.

It was not like a day or two days, you know? No, I know. It's like three hours. Oh, there it is. Yeah, three hours. Yeah, three hour nap. Yeah, it's not enough. It's not enough. No. Then the big fat guy fell asleep. And then the cops came and cut him out before he had to eat.

Before he had to eat. See, I did the whole song. I got the whole thing done. All time. All time. Yeah. Tire. Okay. So this has been going on like crazy. I sent it to Brian because he owns a Kia. So this is something that everybody's seen by now. But I wanted to talk about it. The tire shoots off a truck and flips a car in the Los Angeles free. If you haven't seen the video, you're missing out. The guys, the people in the car are fine, walked away injuryless. Amazing.

What does that tell you? That says something about your Kia Soul, I think. It does, yeah. Oh, now maybe that box isn't so bad, is it? That nice boxy car, box on wheels. I guess they were already high, I was doing a little bit today. And they were already highly rated for their roll cage and all this stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. And so, but a lot of people are like, this is AI generated. It's not real. This is CG. Oh, geez, Louise. No, it was real. It happened. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think I am certainly no expert, but my, it might be the soul has such a good crash rating for rollovers like that because the four posts that hold the roof up are more vertical than on a sedan where they're more flat and can crumble easily, right? Or easily. Right, totally. I don't know. That's a complete total. It sounds right to me. What you said sounded logical, so I'm going to go with it. Yeah, but that freaking tire at the end, that is the part that pisses me off where they think it's like, this tire is like, whoa, look, and it causes the car to flip over and it has the street crash. And then the car's like, what was that movie that had a tire that went crazy and tried to kill everybody? I think it might have just been, was it called rubber? Rubber. Was that it?

Yeah, I think so. And that thing, that's what it was like, oh, the sequel to rubber was unexpected. No one knew this was coming. But also it kind of is like, it's like the blue shell of Mario a little bit. It totally is. Right. It's like whatever, yeah, the shell that follows you no matter where you go. Lame.

But also, so the people, okay, so the truck guy's not in trouble. It's the people who did his recent tire alignment now that are in trouble. Oh, really? Well, yeah. They think they may have effed up and put it on. Why do we have all these lungs that's left over from this job? And by the way, it's all great and funny now because no one was seriously hurt. And that's the important thing.

But, yeah, they were able to walk away minor injuries, like scratches, bumps, that kind of stuff. Insane. That's so, yeah, that makes me feel so good about the key of soul. Yeah, you're never going to have, look, Brian, even if this tire, squirt it out like a freaking bar of soap in the men's shower and hit you right there without you knowing you're going to be fine right you're going to be good and your passenger what are they going to do they're going to go oh we you know what you'll do like the movie crash and you'll just you'll end up doing it that's what you'll do god let's hope not yeah isn't that how that went what was the deal

with that i don't see that i saw the other crash i didn't see that crash i didn't see that crash oh yeah there's like three crashes i always forget which one's what yeah uh the the academy award winning, questionably Academy Award winning Crash. Oh yeah, that was controversial still, I think, to this day, right? People aren't sure it should have won. What was the, didn't Shawshank, Shawshank and

not Pulp Fiction, what were the, there were two other things. No, that year was a, oh, Force Gump. Forrest Gump won, that's right. Yes, that's right. What was, well, Crash was up against something else that easily should have won. I can't remember what it was. Let's see, that's 2005, was it? Yeah, hold on.

Yeah, let's see what the other nominees were. Okay, here we go. No, I don't want this. I put my head here. It's almost like a max headroom. It's so weird how it follows you. The three colors radiating from, you know, like, eh, get, catch the way.

It's really weird. I can't find. Oh, Brokeback Mountain was one of them, says Pops and Recline. Okay. Oh, okay, here's an article saying, is it truly the worst picture ever made or the worst best picture ever made meaning i'd say barry linden is the worst best best picture ever made i never saw it is that a thing i never even heard of that what is that yeah it's an old older film um let's see yeah okay screen science

no not science of lambs that was 92 i can't oh munich was one uh good night and good luck um amazing movie and then broke back mountain you're right and it's still one boo boo boo Well, congratulations to them, all these years later. Okay, we're going to take a break here, and when we come back, Tom Merritt will be joining us, and we'll hang out with him for a little bit. Do a little bit of tech time now that he's back from his whirlwind vacation in Hawaii. Oh, can't we hear all about that?

Yeah, I wonder if he has tails to tail. I don't know. Actually, I hope he remembers he does this thing on Wednesdays now after this vacation. I don't know. But that'll be right after. this break. Brian, do you want to introduce this song and tell us what it is and what's going on? I absolutely do. So we're going to Birmingham, Alabama for this one and the 13th and newest album in a 20-plus-year run of Terry Oams. This is a brand-new album called Rock Songs,

and that's exactly what it is. It's a very rocky rock, excuse me, a very rocky rock song. I don't know if that's a description. This is the, from the album that comes out in June, June 13th, I believe, here's the song, Didn't Think You Had It by Terry Oams. Things have been in motion since the Big Bang, banging after every time it rains, things change. Respect, I didn't think you had it. in you, had it in you, and then you made a fool of everybody who ever doubted you. You got the chops, bye-bye, bam, bam. I just think it had with you.

She had a husband that looked just like James Bond. He thought he was God and he hit her. He saw it coming only much, much too late. He had no idea that she had that kind of spirit in her. Hey guys, education education I think they're heading Yeah

No, I think you had it No, I didn't think had it. I didn't think you had it. But you got it. Oh, no, the hood, you got it. One in your own, you got it. One in your car. I'm going to be able to be.

Hey, now that's just... I mean, that is... Oh, what is that? This is the Sony Betamax. Console TV, right? No, no, not quite. Betamax is a totally new concept in television entertainment. Shack to the future.

Scrodle Recall! The Morning Stream, Monkey Wadabee. All right, we returned. Who was that band again? From the album, Rock Songs, which comes out on June 2nd of this year. That is the song. Didn't think you had it. Is that right?

Yeah, didn't think you had it by Terry Oms. Nice. It's on two different screens. So I've got a four-finger swipe back and forth on the touchpad. Oh, man. You're like a. you're Tom Cruise and Minority Report today. Just flipping past stuff.

It's amazing. All right. Well, we're going to get Tom Merritt in here. Speaking of technology like that and more. And he hasn't heard this yet, but here it is. The world of tomorrow will be as cold as sunlight tuned through photochromic windows. I ride it naked. Yeah, he does.

It's Tom Merritt, everybody. Joining, he nods in approval. I wish the chat could have seen that because I didn't put his picture up yet. Tom Merritt is joining us after what I assume was. a very relaxing, uh, full-throated vacation. How'd things go? It was relaxing. I'm not sure about the second part. Especially after that intro, my goodness. It was an odd, uh, a choice of adjectives. Weird, weird way of putting it. Uh, but how was it? It seemed like a good time. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was great. Uh, I, I talked a little about this on, uh,

good day internet and on court killers both, but, uh, the bandwidth is amazing in Hawaii. Like, I'm so excited. Oh, wow. Uh, the, uh, the, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, The telling moment was we were streaming a live concert, and at the end of the concert, I was like, well, that wasn't bad. It only even, like, stuttered a couple of times, and it wasn't even disruptive to it. And then I realized I had been streaming through VPN the entire time over hotel Wi-Fi. Wow. Oh, wow. Well, I mean, look, when in Hawaii, do as the Hawaiians do, and have confusing Internet, but a good bandwidth.

all right yeah that's what i was good it was great uh there was nothing confusing uh about it i was the one who was like wait i left my vpn on for for the streaming yeah which is good you should you should do that right yeah yeah you absolutely should um well we last wednesday we kind of forgot that you were going out of town and so we even tried to call you and i went oh yeah right he's he's in hawai and then i resented you all i was asleep yeah then there was resentment about you having a nice relaxing time it's six a m in hawai right now oh my gosh are you jet lagged from the from the experience? Not too bad. Yeah, it was a little bit on Sunday, but I've definitely recovered since then. Oh, that makes me happy. Well, that means you probably, I made you

mad, I made you happy. It's a roller coaster. Yeah, we're back to normal now. So did you, how, how deep have you had to get back into tech news since you've been home? I assume there's stuff percolating. Oh, I've done two episodes of Daily Tech News show and started a mastodon account for DNS. So yeah, I'm totally back at the side. Wow, look at that. All right. Well, what's going on today. What are we having? We have this open letter. Have you seen this from something called the Future of Life Institute asking for a six-month moratorium, six-month pause on developing any kind of more powerful AI? This is something I think is getting misinterpreted in the headlines. I didn't realize this until I started digging into it. So it's certainly understandable. They're not calling for a

pause on development of current AI. They're not causing, they're not asking for you to shut down chat GPT for six months or stop improving GPT for. What they're saying is, look, these things are getting so good and they're going to have so many implications that we don't understand. Let's pause any development of the next versions for six months and figure out what the guardrails should be. Should there be any kind of voluntary standards? Should there be ethics boards? Should there be government regulation. They're not prescribing anything in particular. They throw out some ideas as examples.

But it's folks who are concerned that the players, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, OpenAI, are getting a little caught up in the rat race. And we don't understand this technology well enough to know what its implications are. And maybe we should take a step back and do something to, prevent ourselves from from from doing something crazy yeah so i agree with this um i didn't so weird because it's it is easy to get caught up in the uh the hype and the anti hype of it right like the yeah yeah it's good this is amazing but also it's going to destroy us or you know and there's these extreme reactions to it um i've tried to stay you know as open minded as i can about most of it

But it does feel a little bit like, did you see what Mid Journey did today? And then a day later, yeah, but chat GPT4 just, you know, ruin the Turing test forever or whatever, whatever the advancement is every day. It feels like there's something every day that's saying, well, now that's a thing it can do and you're just waiting for the next one to drop. I think it might be good for us to have a moment to just think about implications. and it sounds like that's obviously what this is. Yeah, my first reaction when I saw this was, I don't really think that's going to work. Nobody's going to stop working on their stuff for six months.

And honestly, what we've got now isn't that dangerous. Yeah, it's surprising, like you say, and it's always something you're like, ooh, it does that, it does this, that's interesting. Once I read it closer, I'm like, oh, they're saying hold off on GPT5. And if this helps you wrap your head around it, Sam Altman, the, you know, CEO of,

open AI, one of the co-founders of open AI, told the Wall Street Journal this morning, like, we haven't started working on GPT5 yet. He's like, they're kind of preaching to the choir with this. So there is an aspect of a little bit of an emotional war going on to this. The signatories do not include anyone from OpenAI. Facebook's head of AI has said, I don't agree with the premise of this. So I don't know if this was the best. way to go about what I think is a reasonable thing to do, which is to just kind of throw this out there in the face of the people that need to hear it most. Although, maybe that's what you have to do if those people wouldn't come around behind the scenes to sign something like this. You may have

to go put it out in public, but a lot of attention is being paid to the fourth name. It was a fourth name? Maybe it's the third name. Let me just take a look. No, it's the third name. The third name on the list of signatories is Elon Musk, and Elon Musk helped found. He was one of like seven people who founded Open AI. So when you see people talking about, well, the company Elon Musk founded, he helped. He wasn't necessarily the most active in the founding of Open AI, but he was there at the beginning. He left in 2018. They said publicly because of a conflict of interest. He was going to be developing AI for Tesla and didn't think it was reasonable for him to be advising open AI while

competing with them. That seemed reasonable and probably is partly true. It has also been reported by semaphore that Musk tried to take over Open AI and the other co-founders were like, not so much. We don't want you running the show

and that's why he left. Either way, he's been on a campaign for the past several months slagging open AI in public. So there's a little bit of that behind this letter to again, not that I disagree with any of the principles of the letter but there's a lot of we're on this side there on that side like there's a there's a spat going on in the a i community about this what's interesting is

this reminds me for me it's interesting i don't know if anyone else finds it interesting but there's a parallel to 90s gaming hear me out on this one so in the 90s we started to crescendo into the possibility of much more realistic i mean by today's standards not even close but then things like Mortal Kombat and other games that portrayed violent acts and whatnot, we're looking very, oh, very photorealistic suddenly. There's blood in this game. This isn't just, you know, my Atari 2,600 anymore. And the industry was faced with a real question of do we, this is happening so fast,

again, there's a parallel there, this is happening so fast, do we want governments to regulate us, or should we really make an effort to regulate ourselves? And that's what they did. And they ended up, they still got scrutinized. They still had hearings. All those things still happen. But they implemented a rating system that still stands today.

And the ESRB is a thing and it held and it stuck and it works. And it was a way for them to not have just governments pop in and say, well, here's how we're going to do it. Because that can get so messy and so complicated. This feels a little bit like maybe they could do that. Yeah. you know, get out ahead of it and control that so that the ethical problems and issues or potentials, be the smartest about them, be the most ready for them, be the one, be the body that governs itself so that you're not being told by a thousand governments how they want

you to do it. I would be more confident in that, and I'm not saying that won't happen, I would be more confident in that if this was members of OpenAI, Google, Facebook, Deep Mind, Google's deep mind, et cetera, rather than all the people who aren't in those companies. To that point, there are a few engineers from Google and Meta who have signed this, so it's not entirely bereft of that, but you're not getting the leaders. You're not getting the folks who are in charge of the other side. And again, like I said, maybe you need this outside pressure to bring them to the table, to create their version of the ESRB for AI.

But I do think it's important to raise this issue because, we don't know what these things are good for and what their implications are. And we're very familiar with how that works out when you just unleash it on the public regarding social networks. So the idea of like, hey, this is pretty disruptive as it is. Maybe before we make it better, we figure out a way to put some guardrails up. I think is a good conversation to have. We are far from a solution for that, but putting some pressure on the big companies to come to the table

before there is actual harm done, I think is a wise idea. It's just hard to do during a time that this feels like one of those tech gold rushes. Yeah, absolutely. It has every aspect of it, right? So as soon as you started to see Google, Microsoft, and Open AI having competing announcements, you know, we're announcing Thursday. Well, we're announcing Wednesday.

It does start to raise an eyebrow like, oh, hold on, y'all. You're getting a little over-excited about those. Yeah. So, anyway, it will be fun to continue to follow. And the best place to follow it, in my opinion, is the Daily Tech News show. I'm on there today with guest Will Smith, not the actor. Not the catcher for the Dodgers. No, neither of those two.

Nobody slap Chris Rock in this party. opinion. No disrespect to the others. My favorite Will Smith. I know he's my favorite Will Smith as well. Yeah. And I love being on with him. So that's happening today. And that's always exciting. Tom, anything else going on since you've been home that you want to mention? Yes. Yes. So the the prophesied return of top five has occurred. If you haven't checked it out yet, I know some of you have. Thank you for your feedback on it. CNET's top five became revision three's top five, became Tech Republic's top five. And now it's just Tom's top five. You can find my latest effort at top fives at YouTube.com slash daily tech news show. It's part of the DTNS effort. The first one, topically enough,

is five things to know about chat. GPD. Oh, look at that. You didn't have to wrestle the rights away from any like IP holding entity, right? No, no. I was not the first person to ever do a top five, which is why those were always called C-Net Top 5, Tech Republic Talk 5. So, yeah, I believe I am safe to call something Tom's Top 5 since I am Tom. Yeah, that's right. Even that talk and cat. I have my birth certificate. Oh, well, then it's all done then.

It's all settled. Well, anyway, I'm looking forward to being on later today, and I love Top 5, so I'm very happy to hear that it's back. Tom Merritt, everybody. He is Ace Detect on Twitter and probably some Mastodong thing. Probably Ace Detect on Mastodon and DTNS show. Brand new Mastodon account for Daily Tech News show. If you're a Mastodon or go check it out. It's at MSTDN.com.

It is Tom Merritt, everybody. Have a good one and we'll see you later today. Bye. Bye. Bye. Boy. Oh, man. Discussion of AI.

It's a thing. It's a thing. It's going to be a thing for quite a while. Yep. It's a thing that's here. Brian, it's here. Okay. I'm going to get Nicole in.

Yeah. She's offline. Randy's at the vet. We don't have him today. This is like old school recommendals. It is, yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about it that the other day.

Remember when we had that box of trope cards or it was like, find a movie that has these two things in it. Oh. And you and Nicole would have to find, like, basically recommend movies that had. I completely forgot we did that. Oh, wait. We have time for a quick baby break. This is perfect. Yay, baby break.

here, girlie. Breaking baby. Oh, look at Feebs. She looks like one of those little kids you'd find, or one of the things you'd unlock in Breath of the Wild. I was going to say, yeah, she's like a little peepod. You like a little peepod? Hi.

Yeah. She likes my beard. You want to pull it? Go ahead, yank it. Give it a hard one. She's so chill. Yeah. She's more chill in Van.

You're going to chill your brother out. She's like one of the tree people. She is like the tree people. Yeah. Are you going to make her like an EWalk this year or something? I was thinking making her into like a fart. Have you seen that? No.

No. Like that's what it looks like she's just like one big fart. Okay. I want anyone to tell me if they're shocked that my daughter would like to turn her daughter into a fart for Halloween. Is anyone shocked? Not even by this. Okay.

Well, I've done. My work here is done. I'll see you soon. Are you going to be here for a bit? Okay. I'll come up and see you guys. Is Van here too? Okay.

She's got to get back really quickly to, back to the tree to help make cookies with the other two more elves. That's right. Right. She looks like a tunnel elf today. All right. Well, Nicole's not answering, but I don't know what that means. Let's see. Oh, no. We'll ring her again. Okay. If not, we'll just, we'll two-man it. You know? Yeah, yeah. We both have them. It's not like we didn't bring them. Yeah, yeah. We even have one for Randy. I don't know. Was he expecting us to recommend his recommendal? I don't think so, but I don't think so either. Maybe. No, because we couldn't really speak to it, right? We don't know what's in there. Exactly. You know what I can speak to, which is not my recommendal because we don't know where you're going to be able to watch it starting Friday, but just about finished with all five seasons of Luther, which, man, that show is fantastic. And you're doing, let's see, so there's the original UK run, and then there was something else, and then there's this movie, right? Or am I thinking there's nothing in the middle there? I thought there was anything in the middle.

I only know about the five seasons and then the movie. And the seasons are like, you know, one season is two episodes long. Another season is four episodes long. And my God, it was so, it's so good. Yeah, it's fantastic. Idris Elba. Yeah. He's great.

Doesn't it make you think he could be bond? Yeah, do it. He'd be a great bond. All these rumors and stuff, just forget about all the arguments. Just make it happen. He's already said he's not in the running, but I don't care. We can change it. We can turn it.

he's great I just like the fact that he runs around all the time with his hands in his pockets and I know you kind of get an explanation for that in the first episode where he's like yeah if you keep your hands on the pockets

you don't touch the evidence you don't accidentally screw up a crime scene but there are so many times that he's like you know chasing somebody down the stairs chasing a suspected serial killer down the stairs and he's got his hands in his pocket I feel like that's a an interest elba thing or a character thing but it's great i love it well i'm glad you like that i loved

it too and also i saw him in that beast thing where he fights a tiger in africa that was really good i will say just last year right the movie came out last year just barely last year but i'll say the one thing i'll say about it that really i don't know it kind of shocked me was how um how good the cg is because i just assumed it wasn't cg that's how good it was like the The cat tech is on freaking a new level. I couldn't believe it. And that movie's not like, you know, mind-blowing story-wise.

It's fine for what it is. It's mostly just an action-adventure, thriller thing. But these cats, these lions are the most realistic-looking artificial lions I've ever seen. Blue my mind. Yeah, that's good. It's not, the thing is I wouldn't, it's not like recommendal material because otherwise it's very, formulaic. Oh, we got stuck in Africa.

There's a wild cat who wants to eat all the people. We're trapped in the car. Yep. His kids are in danger. Now he must act. You know, whatever. That's good though. Chartoe Cotoply or whatever's name isn't that. Charlto, yeah, Charlottow Copley or Copley.

He's very good. So I guess this is a recommendation. All right. Well, no Nicole today, it looks like. She's something must come up. We're going to play this here. Well, what do you recommend? We're going to do our recommendals all by our lonesome here. and we're going to start with Brian. Brian, you got a clip here. You want to introduce it? This is a new show that's on a new streaming service, different from the streaming service that the show was originally on.

But the show has a new name and a new direction, and I love it. All right. And that's your, that's the setup. Here we go. You don't mind me asking. How is it working out for you? You miss being the cop? I do standard PI stuff. Sneak and peek, missing errors.

Whatever you could find out about my family. Surveillance, consulting. Take this. I'm paying you to conduct an investigation. Just to be clear, I don't work for you. Understood. Is that all you did? Switch to another searchant.

Yes, call Google. I have no choice but to declare a mistrust. Rogers hired a hitman, shot me twice, and left me for dead. What I really want is to personally hunt him down and end him. I am so sorry. I just wonder what went wrong for Rogers to get off. It's not over yet. We have to nail this guy, Harry.

Yeah, we do. But we do it my way this time. Your way. Courts, due process. Justice system. Your way it didn't work. No, it didn't. Okay, you're away.

Okay. Yeah. That is, you should recognize the voice of Titus Welliver as a character that he just has completely become, for me, Harry Bosch, Hieronymus Bosch, short Harry Bosch. And if you watch the Bosch series on Amazon Prime, which follows the book series, Black Rain or something like that, I think it was the first one, and it's, you know, that Harry Bosch is. is an L-A-P-D cop who is very straight-laced by the book, does things by the rules, and goes against any dirty cops and bad cops and stuff like that. In Bosch Legacy, he's left the LAPD, and he's now a private detective, and he's given up on those rules because they let too many good guys

or they kept let too many bad guys out and kept too many good guys in or got them killed so now he's basically saying hey look that way didn't work now we're doing things my way

and this show focuses on three characters from Bosch very specifically Bosch obviously his daughter Maddie who is now a cop and now is like facing not just the challenges

of being a young female rookie in the LAPD but also the challenges of having the last name Bosch and both having that legacy to live up to, but also that, you know, Bosch pissed off a lot of people in the LAPD, and she's kind of got to survive that. And then also Mimi Rogers' character, Chandler,

the Honey Chandler, the attorney, that when she was first introduced, she was just going to be this little one, one, two episode character that was going to go after Bosch. She's become a great ally to him over all the seasons of the original boss TV show. And at the end of that run, she gets shot at by a hitman or tried to be killed by a hitman. And this season kind of deals with her, the repercussions of her, always having to look out, look behind her shoulder and have all this stuff that could potentially come together.

So it's focusing on these three characters who, have really like changed their whole trajectory since the Bosch TV show which is what makes this so great you know straight-laced Bosch now kind of off the rails

Maddie who's the daughter who's working for Chandler now a straight-laced cop and then you've got Chandler who Honey Chandler who's got her own mission, her own trajectory it's got a really good

story like a good overarching story with William Devane, who's awesome. Oh, my gosh, William. Oh, I saw him in the trailer. Yeah, I was a little shocked. I'm like, oh, my gosh, William Devane still lives. Still lives and still sounds the same.

That guy's got such a great voice. Yeah, he's great. You've got this new guy that introduced named Moe, who's kind of the Bosch's tech expert, who explains what Google is to Bosch, which is great. It's a really, really good show, and it's on Freebie, Amazon Freebie. excuse me

god it's so dry here isn't it weird though that you that so you mentioned freebie uh yeah amazon uh formerly i mdb tv but still on amazon joint they moved it from prime as one of their prestige shows on prime right to freevy to obviously get people

going to use freebie but um they buggy to have commercials and stuff like it would have been only a little bit they're you know they're you only get one or maybe two or three commercial breaks per episode and they're they're much shorter than the like barrage of eight commercials you get on things like to be i don't i don't know how it works with you uh with the brave browser right that cuts out all yeah the brave browser or actually any browser that you're running a ad blocker in just works on on uh tubi just doesn't give you commercials at all so i wonder how that works for freebie as well but uh i think that one still forces

them through, but maybe there's a different tech involved. I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah. You know what? It's still, even with the commercials, still totally non-obtrusive, absolutely worth watching. And I think it might be the third

show I've recommended from Freevy. So, you know, watch Bosch Legacy. Absolutely watch the Dillahunt gets out of prison because of COVID thing. That comedy is hilarious and it's one season it wraps itself up beautifully uh it's that's so good uh nice

yeah i'm i remember if there was a third freebie thing that i've recommended told recently um you did i remember the dillon hunt thing but i can't remember if there's anything else but you know i think it's good that they're filling that thing out it's kind of like their way of competing with paramount and peacock where they have limited ads and you know it's fine uh Nicole joining us late Nicole. Hi, Nicole. How are you? Hi, fine. Usually if I miss the call, I can actually just join you. But for whatever reason, it didn't, Discord didn't let me do that. Oh, weird. So I'm like, could you call me again? No worries. Someone in the chat said, Nicole's here. And I'm like, all right, we're adding her. We're putting her in. No worries. Sprum. Sprung is that other show

from Freebie that has Dilla Hunt and, uh, what's her face from Goonies. Umpton, Plumpton. Martha Plimpton. Also from Raising Hope. Raising Hope. Yeah. Same creator. I don't know why I've watched that yet. I need to watch that. That is such a great show. One of my, one of my favorite recommendals from last year. And yeah, Greg Garcia.

So those two things, Bosch Legacy sprung. It'll make freebie worth it. Go check out freebie, everyone. It's Amazon's dumb name for a new thing. All right. Nicole, let's go straight to Nicole. here we got a we got a clip for nicole and uh any set up here before i hit play um it was my covid show so there's three seasons they're about an hour long so um i'm i'm currently on the third season the first two two seasons are pretty great okay here i'll play it we'll see we got luck it all right who is that kirsty come back to This can't be real.

You, you're a ghost? Got a question for you. Why'd you kill me? What do I do to you? Nothing. You strangled. No, no. You drowned me in the lake.

No, no, no, no, I didn't. but you must know that. So they're Australian, right? Yes. Okay. They're Australian. What is the, what is this? Because it looked interesting.

So this is on Netflix. And the reason why it didn't come up in my recommendations, like, you know how Netflix will like, oh, you watch this. You might like this. The show came out in 2015 and I had, I guess last season was 2019. My mom watched it on my account. So when I went into it, I'm like, I didn't watch this. Why is it saying I watched this?

That happens to me. So this is a show called Glitch. Not the movie with the, there's a movie called Glitch, not that. This is a TV show. It's a TV drama. And the premise is one evening. I think there's six or seven of them people crawl out of their graves

and they're not zombies they're people and they have a like reverse Alzheimer's and they don't know who they are but they slowly gain their memory and it's a tiny town in Australia

and the hook of it is they are people from very times of this town. So the main kind of storyline that you'll be drawn into is a woman that she passed away like two years ago. And her husband is the cop, like the chief of police or whatever. So he recognizes her. She still doesn't know who she is. And so you have all these little storylines, like the

clip you heard was the girl that was murdered. And it revolves around her trying to figure out what happened to her, you know, like who killed her, basically. Right. That's interesting. Somebody slowly unraveling their own murder. That's a crazy thing. Yeah. So it's like

a little murder mystery. And so each one of these people that have come back, they can't leave the boundary of the town. Or else they turn to dust. And so you have the overarching mystery of how did they come back

what's going on with the town boundary so there's all these questions. It's very lost-ish kind of and yeah I'm on the third season two more people have come back and you're still trying to figure out like how they're coming back and yeah

it's good. Has somebody had to be the sucker who did step off the boundary of the town and then came turn to dust and then the rest of them went, oh shit, we better not do that? Is that how that went? Yeah, like on the first episode, the poor guy who only spoke Italian, he goes across the boundary and turns to us. Well, if you're going to lose somebody.

We didn't have a way about translations. Sure. Yeah, I was going to say, if you want to lose somebody, lose the guy who knows Italian. That's acceptable loss. That's fine. This sounds really interesting. And is it still in production? Like, is there a season four coming?

No, it's done. It's completely done. And you can kind of feel it in season three that they had the first two seasons really, really good. Season three have kind of lost a little bit of interest in it, like the two new dead people that have come back. Not really that interested in now, but they do wrap the story up in this final season. Okay. Well, you say Lost Like, and I think you, both Brian and I being lost fans, this sounds like a show I would watch. But you'd watch this, Brian sounds good, right?

2015. Oh, Brian's muted. You're muted, 2016, and then 2019, I think we're the times. I just realized I muted. Yeah, I've been going to blow my nose. So I'm muted. No worries at all. Yeah, totally. Like you say last, my ears prick up. Yeah. The only thing that is a little hard to not think about is this all takes place in Australia. They're outside a lot. And all I'm thinking is, where are the crazy animals and bugs? that's all you see in videos now like giant spires yeah right Australia yeah everything outside's gonna kill you forget you forget like probably Sydney and you know parts of Australia or just like any other big city where nature they're not in a big city they're outside this is what I think about every

almost everything that's ever filmed in um Atlantic as so much stuff is like the Avengers movies a lot of the MCUs film there walking dead yeah Yeah. Every time I see that, I go, you're not looking sweaty enough. None of you look like you're covered in freaking bugs like I would be if I was down there. Like it's just not realistic. It drives me crazy. But anyway, this sounds great. Glitch, it's called. Three seasons, all available. I think the name is a little unfortunate because when you say glitch, I think computers and there's movies out there that kind of deal with that. But yeah, it's a glitch in the universe that these people have come back from the dead. the ramifications for that and the stories were around each one of the characters. I liked it. Even that year, same year, 2015, the year of the show was being made,

there was a movie called Glitch. Right. Really? Yeah. And there was one in 88. There's just too many, too many movies with the name Glitch. And I think that's a weird name for a TV show that doesn't sound at all like what you described. Like what you describe doesn't needs a different name somehow. I agree. I don't know what. But anyway. All right, nicely done. Here's mine.

It comes to you in the form of a documentary series about a thing that I find endlessly fascinating. And I'll play it and then I'll talk about it. It's hard for outsiders to understand the isolated life of members of the Branch Davidian cult. The cult's compound is located on 77 acres east of Waco, Texas. Its leader, David Courish, claims he is Christ. He was a scum. as a human being. He was a con man. He had complete control over the members inside. All right. This is called Waco American Apocalypse. And it's got a ridiculously over the top

name for what is mostly a pretty good documentary. So the series is, the thing that is notable about it, I think, is it is not the first to try to document what happened in Waco, Texas, back in the early 90s and that entire event. There's also a dramatic television show with Taylor Kitch playing David Koresh. That is very good. I highly recommend it. Right. And they're doing a sequel series that's about the aftermath of it for one of the police guys played by,

oh, my brain. I can't think of his name all of a sudden. We all love him. He's in everything. We love him. And I can't think it was name. Anyway. Giancarlo Esposito.

Well, we like him, but that ain't him. I can't think of his name. He was in the fish. But the sound of water, whatever the hell that was, where the fish did it with the lady what's his yeah he played the bad guy in that what is wrong with me cannot think of it oh yes i know you're talking about you guys know who i mean he's in everything he he was in i got to look it up michael shannon michael shannon yeah zod come on zod oh my lord i can't believe i didn't think of zod anyway uh he's he was in the tv

yeah that's a very different thing but he was in that waco show and he's very very good it and a few other people that people would recognize it. Anyway, the point is, this documentary, how it differentiates itself is it has a bunch of interviews and footage that have never been seen. And it isn't like one of those things where they tease you with unseen footage and then it's like two seconds or something. It's not like that. It's like really legitimately a lot of stuff, no one's heard or seen phone calls to and from the compound during the siege. very specific details regarding why the tank went in there and ran over their cars for no reason. This thing is an equal opportunity offender in that it is really hardcore on the facts against the Branch Devidian, specifically David Koresh and his bullshit, but also really, really bad actors on the side of the government making rash decisions and calls they shouldn't have made when they made them. so they're not holding back on any of it

this doesn't have an agenda it's really just like here's the phone call that no one's heard before and you hear this phone call oh my freaking gosh and there's one lady who they interview who got out and there's a whole story why she got out before the place burned she's still totally in on it

she thinks David Koresh was the greatest martyr of all time 100% behind it all loves it never never questioned any of it to this day doesn't like completely effed um and there's There's a, there's a, there's a lot of stuff like that I didn't expect.

There was one, there's an interview with a girl who would have been like nine or 10 when she was released. She was one of the only kids that wasn't killed in the fire. And she got out early because they were in the process of getting some hostages out. And she's now 40s, I guess, she would be, early 40s. It happened 30 years ago, 93. Yeah. I don't like to say that. 93.

Yeah. It's a long time. But it was really something. woodstocks ago. Oh man. It'll be a third before you know it. Anyway, it's very good. And don't let the name freak you out in terms of it being too over the top. It isn't. And if that event holds any fascination for you, either if you're a true crime buff or you just think the Waco thing is interesting, you're going to get a lot of stuff here that you didn't know before. So I recommend it.

If, oh, it's on Netflix, is where I was going to say it was and is currently available there as a Netflix original documentary. All right. There you go.

That's it. I got a Randy Fobba. We ain't playing it because he's not here. He'll do it next week. We'll get to that eventually. Nicole, you got anything cool going on? You want to promote on the show?

Anything fun? I'm back to work. Finally, gosh. I can't believe it. And I'm working on my 3D printers and lasering. So Mark and I just been working up at the

guild. Teaching the kids how to use the 3D printing and all that? No, I want to. I'm trying to get back to that. So that's where my goal is to get back to teaching kids again. That would be awesome? What'd they call you? Mrs. Spag? What'd they call you? They called me Miss Nicole. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. I like that. Miss Nicole.

Oh, you made me want to teach. It's too bad. teachers makes a little money. Anyway, there you have it. It's Nicole Spaggnolo, a follower wherever you find Nicole Spag. Say hi to Mark and the kids and we'll see you soon. I will. Bye. See you Nicole. All right. Brian, we successfully did a recommendal. It went well. I know. We did it. Successfully did a show from, from, from, with a remote from Vegas with pan and scan, pan and scan camera. Yeah, and no glitches or hangups on ISP or anything. Did you end up using 5G or what'd you do? The Plaza. No, it's just the Plaza's Wi-Fi.

I'm shocked by this. Yeah, no, it's been solid. It's been really, really good. So take note, KT Data and Monkey, you know, who is it? Monkey Manning. He's helping you. Yeah, he does the streaming, right? The live stream. Yes, because he's got the server. Yeah. So take note, guys, you'll have some good Wi-Fi

for streaming. Yeah, I'm really impressed. I've been kind of virtually crossing my fingers this entire show today because I was worried about it. Yeah, no, it's been great. You're doing good. All right, quick couple things. Email from David, who wrote in.

He is Santa, Santia ghoul when he's in the tad pool. Okay. Good morning to the two dudes that make my morning commute bearable. Oh, man. It's a lot of pressure. That is a lot of pressure. Yeah, exactly. I hope today's was bearable.

Anyway, I came across this theory about the song Africa by Toto. The singer is in Africa because he is hoping to find some long-forgotten words. or ancient melodies. So why is he hunting up ancient folklore? He is seeking to, quote, cure what's deep inside slash frightened of this thing that I have become, unquote. Obviously, the singer is a werewolf. Thanks for all keeping me saying, David.

Wow. He's a werewolf. He's a werewolf. Okay. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's why he gets the geography totally wrong about Mount Kilimanjaro rising above the Serengetti.

Right. You're absolutely right. All right. We got to the bottom of it. Thank you, David, for that. If you'd like to send your own emails in, the morning stream at gmail.com is where you do it. And you can also text us at 801-471-0462. A reminder that today is full of other content, including my appearance on Daily Tech News show today at 2 p.m. And at 3.30 p.m. Me and Brian Dunaway tackle Moon Patrol on Play Retro. That'll be tonight at 3. Mountain time. So check it out. Electing them rocks and jumping over craters. Do you have, yeah, remember? Oh, that's so good. Do you have anything going on or being released while you're out there that we should mention here? No. No? No.

As a matter of fact, I've already even prepped people that there won't be a coverville tomorrow. We'll talk about that when I'm back in Denver for the show tomorrow tomorrow. Oh, that's right. Brian will be here tomorrow on his normal microphone, everybody. So look forward to that. My normal microphone, normal non-panent scan camera. I'm going to miss that part because this is just too weird. Look, you can see, I slept right there.

What? Yeah, my bad. Oh, man. Turn it on tonight and just live stream the whole event. Or maybe not. Don't do that. I want to go back to sleep. I don't know when we're meeting Medzula for lunch, but the place we were planning on going is closed.

Oh, shit. I might have to pick something else, yeah. Are you going to, so wait, you fly out tomorrow or today? Tonight. I fly out tonight, 7 p.m. Oh, that's not so bad. I get back at about 11 o'clock tonight, Denver time. It's not too bad.

10 o'clock. 10 o'clock? You're just getting started then. You'll be fine. Oh, piece of cake. Yeah, exactly. I got a whole day to explore and have fun in this damn town. That's right.

Well, don't touch any guardrails or something. I don't know. Whatever warning you want. Yeah, don't touch your face. Speaking of which, I got an it's right here. Okay, I'm good now. That's it for that. What else?

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slash TMS for everything else. It's frogpants.com slash TMS. And a little reminder on Friday, it's not a couch party. it will be a play date and uh because it's the end of the month i don't know what we're playing brian and i haven't talked well we'll come up with something probably among us probably among us has been a bit right we the last the last two times i think we've just been doing the new jackbox so i think it's time for a little bit more among us all right among us that means you guys get to be in the

the chat room and the and the voice channel and all that shit uh so be there for that and big advanced thanks to uh Veronica no Nicole no what's wrong with me wicked kitten Monica what is wrong with me you really you had the opportunity to play that up like you were joking and couldn't do it you so easily could have faked us out

like yeah no I'm as dumb as that sounded all right that's it for all of the things we need to talk about here don't worry we'll be back tomorrow with more and windy and all that so be here tomorrow all right Brian let's get out of here do you have a song I can play on the way out the door. I do. Barry, or Barry Ann, as we like to call him, wrote in and said, can you please play a cover of any Billy Joel song, the songmaster's choice,

for Bobby Ann. It is her 29th birthday. I won't say which anniversary of her 29th. And she always enjoys hearing your choices. Thank you. Let's party. Nice. Happy birthday. Technically, it was the 24th. So it was a few days ago, but we weren't doing it. doing a show that day or whatever the reason. But yeah, happy birthday, Bobby Ann. And again, two more people that I can't wait to see in a month. So excited.

Very excited to see them. All right. So any Billy Joel cover? Well, how about this one right here? This is a favorite of mine. This is by an artist who went by the name Hussolonia. And he released an entire track-by-track cover of Billy Joel's Glass House's album. And for a while, and I probably still up there, I can't remember

the link, he let me share it on coverville.com so you can download the entire Hussolonia album. I think you might be able to find it as coverville.com slash hussolonia. Dot Zip, all lowercase. You might still be able to download it. I spell Hussolonia just for those I don't know. H-U-S-S-A-L-O-N-I-A. All right, there you go. Dot Zip. So try that. I don't know if it still works. I can't remember if that's the link. But if you, after you hear this cover, if you're like, oh, I want to hear the whole thing, then just DM me or message me in Discord. And I'll see if I can find the link. But it's great.

And he's a great artist. And so this stuff needs to be shared. This is from that album. It is his cover of Don't Ask Me Why by Billy Joel. Here is Hussalonia. All the waiters in your grand cafe Leave their tables when you blink Oh every dog must have is every day

Every drunk must have his drink Don't wait for answers Just take your chances Don't ask me why You had to stand in line. Still, you're standing on your feet. Oh, your choices made you change your mind. Now your caring is complete.

Don't wait for answers. Just take your chances. Don't ask me why. Ooh, you can't say the human heart is only make believe. And I am only fighting fire or fire But you are still a victim of the accidents you leave It sure is I'm a victim of desire Yeah, yeah, yeah

All the servants in your new hotel Throw their roses at your feet Oh Fool them all my baby I can tell You're no stranger to the street Don't ask your favors, don't talk to strangers, don't ask you why. an only child now your ghost

have gone away oh you can kill in the classic style now you polyvufufense don't know

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