The Morning Stream - TMS 2449: The H is Silent

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

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Coming up on TMS, Taco Bell hot sauce, cleaning pennies and colons. Sending out an OSO. Raised to say hooker. Kempt and shoveled. Paging Dr. Slenderfinger. This dryer blows. Snorting Road Coke. I'm not hearing the theme.

Better not call Badger. There'll be no ringy dinghy, no dryers, and no lieutenant yard. Why did my aunt cancel me on Facebook? Half horse, half man, Sater. Sussie vinegar. George Clooney's big meat fists. Gobbling Books with Amy. There's something to remember with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

And now the theme. Let me let the cat out of the bag right from the beginning. This presentation is a factual examination of the rap and dance music scene from a perspective. Yellow creature gobbles dots while being pursued through maize by monsters. You saw it off sadistic bastard. You betrayed us. This is the morning stream.

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, April 6th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That is Brian Hibbit. That's right. The H is silent, though. You don't pronounce the H.

It's just there. It's just there to let you know, hey, I'm an H. Yeah. Way back in Brian's line of people, they had the H in there, but they took it out before they came to America to strike out a new plan. Exactly. They left it back in Birmingham with the peekie blinders. Yep, that's where it'll stay. That's where that H lives now. Yep, it's the 1H club there in Birmingham, England. Anyway, hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. It's me and and Brian. We got stuff to do today. It's a Thursday, which means the week is winding down. in a way?

It is. Still plenty to do, but, you know, it feels like it's winding down. Yeah, plenty to do that I wasn't hoping that I wasn't planning on doing. I took my car for an oil change yesterday. I told you, I don't know if I mentioned on the show, that it's been squeaking, even though I had new brakes installed last week, Crazy Neighbor installed new brakes for me. The brakes have been squeaking still. And I had to do an oil change anyway.

So while I was there, I said, hey, do you mind just peeking in, looking at the brakes and just seeing if you notice anything unusual about them? Yeah. And the guy says, all right, your oil's all changed. And, yeah, looks like one of your brake pads is cracked. Oh, shit. Oh, damn it. That's a, wait, is that a part of what Dave replaced or did for you?

That is part of what Dave replaced. Yeah, he replaced the brake pads. Dave, come on, man. No, no, I'm sure it was a manufacturer defect, I'm sure. Yeah, but I'm positive. I'm positive it was that. It was nothing else. No other chance.

So I think I might be, because he's, I don't know if he's going to be available today. So I think I might just be replacing that one on my own. But I can do that. That's an easy enough thing. Have you done that before? I've never done a break. I have. Yeah, changing brakes.

My God, you can, going to the store and buying brake pads, uh, 30, 40 bucks for, for two pairs of brake pads for your front wheels. Frick. Uh,

and about an hour and a half of work. You know what? They charge too much. Yeah. It's going to be 400, 350 to $400. Yeah, we're,

that's, I'm never doing that again. I'll never do that again. Yeah. YouTube video. I hate to say, this is where, this is where the,

Neo learning Kung Fu and us learning from the YouTube is kind of like where it's at. You learn how to change it or replace a brake pad on YouTube. And there are really good tutorials on how to do it. Oh, I bet. Yeah. That would make my dad really proud if he knew I was doing that because I'm

notoriously bad at car stuff, but I've done oil, I've done break fluid, I replaced an oil filter a few times. Yeah. What else? That might be it. I don't know what else I'm doing in there, you know? Not really a car Yeah, but a slide says you change your own breaks, but don't do your own oil, which is like 500 times easier.

You're saying to me, yeah, but it's cheap to have somebody else do my oil. It's expensive to have somebody else do my breaks. Yeah, it's just a value proposition. It's less about, you know, can I make more money doing freelance for an hour versus working on my oil for an hour? Yeah, you can get more with freelance. It's just a value thing. It's a total value proposition. I get that.

Like, if they were charging $500 to change your oil, you'd do your own oil, of course. I would do my own oil, exactly. Yeah, it's all about pricing it, and I don't know, where your head's at, I guess. Exactly. But it's a valid, it is a valid question, slide, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I guess there were a million, 234, 566 slides before you. There was a lot of those, yeah. Man, way more than you would think.

More slides than one would expect. Many, many slides. I also, I guess I did an air filter once. So that's one other thing. Oh, and I've changed. Well, air filter. Yeah. Air filters are easy.

Unscrew and screw. Lift a thing. Plop in an air filter, close it. Yeah. Have you changed the battery? I have changed a battery. That's true. There you go.

That's easy. It's not hard. I did a, I even did the thing on the road with the Coke, where you pour, the contacts aren't working good on an old corroded battery. No, I snort Coke and then changed my tires. Got it done in eight minutes. Yeah. It was amazing.

And I never needed to sleep. I kept driving. No, I went, I poured, you pour, the, the old thing was that if you pour coke on a corroded contact on a battery, that it will, that'll all melt away. And it worked. And it worked. And it worked. But then I, you know, I didn't have that realization of like, well, I can't drink Coke again because that's weird that it does that. And yet we're drinking.

You know, I never, I just, I didn't even connect the two. I just kept drinking Coke. Like, it was no problem. But, yeah. Yeah. If you ever, if you ever, if you ever want to, you know, these science experiments, uh, Got an old penny that looks all rough and haggard and gross, a little bit of Taco Bell hot sauce. Only hot works, fire, Diablo, medium, none of the other ones work.

But their hot sauce will make that penny look brand new. What's in there that does that? I don't know, but I still put it on my freaking burrito supreme. Me too. I like the hotter one. Oh, my gosh, I didn't know that. I didn't know you could clean your pennies with Taco Bell hot sauce. That's crazy.

Yeah. Oh, is it just the vinegar and the hot sauce? Oh, is that what it is? Just vinegar does it? boring then. Yeah, but then also, and now I'm looking suss at vinegar.

I don't trust vinegar now. You just rub some salt and vinegar potato chips on that penny. That's right. It's new. Yeah. We're dipping eggs in it for Easter. What the hell's going on with a big,

big corporate vinegar? That's right. We're trying to think of a good, one of the corporations. I guess Heinz is the big vinegar. Like, I think we have Heinz vinegar in our. Oh, do? Are they a big per,

purveyor of vinegars. I don't know if they're big, but I know that I'm pretty sure that's the brand we have, yeah. Have you ever had a thing where... Except for the balsamic. Oh, yeah, the balsamic. Yeah, you can. That stuff's good for you. Yeah.

Have you ever an apple cider vinegar is very good. Apple cider vinegar is when you're supposed to like drink a cap full every day. Yeah. I can't tell. I guess I haven't looked that deep, but I haven't, I haven't... Is that a, like, a medically recommended thing from professionals in the field, or is that just some lady going, who I did a shot of that a day? It's definitely a Dr. Jerry or Dan Patrice question.

Well, Dan's coming on the 17th, so maybe we'll save that for him. Oh, let's save that one for, yeah, yeah, for sure. He can debunk it or bunk it. That's always a weird thing. Bunk means crap or I think Seinfeld did this joke. Yeah, he did. There's an episode where they talk about it. When you say debunk, okay, it means demystify or, you know, make, find out what's really real.

that's debunking yeah but then bunk is that's a bunch of crap that's bunk right right it's not like you're saying oh you know that's that your idea is really bunk that's a stupid thing it's stupid that we do that it's the same as like you don't say you don't see somebody uh you know coming down the stairs after getting all dressed up to go out for a night on the town you don't say wow you look very kemped right you'd look very kemped oh that's good because i was because i was so unkempt last night yes exactly all right so i was going to ask you this do you ever or have you ever had a thing where you'll say something not knowing about a thing that happened

and had you known you would never have said that thing because that thing... That thing is so like tied to the thing that happened that you didn't know about, but it seems like you're making fun of the thing even though you never heard of it. Oh, God, I know, exactly. Like, oh, how's that lazy-ass dog of yours?

Right. This happened to me... passed away last week. I'm sorry. Yeah, see, exactly. This happened to me just before the show. So, check this out. It's really stupid. I made a tweet that said, in fact, I'll read it.

I'll give you the exact tweet, okay? This is on Twitter. The fully functioning, perfectly wonderful, never had a problem, Twitter. No issues whatsoever won't die in a fire within a year, Twitter. No, it's all going great over there. Okay? Here's what I wrote.

As a general rule, I think every prank YouTuber should get beat up by their victims at least once. Now, that seems fine. whatever, get a good punch from somebody you're pissing off in the mall. For a Jake Paul or something. Yeah, I hate these guys. I can't stand prank YouTube. I hate it.

I think it's mean. I think it's awful and I hate how popular it is. So anyway, there's that whole, that's just me and my little statement. And then I'm informed by, I don't know, half a dozen people. In fact, it was kind of hinty at first. They were like, well, maybe not shot in the gut, though. Or maybe not something, something. They keep referring to the shooting.

And I went, I didn't say anything about shooting. just talking about smack the guy or something. I dig down a little deeper. There's some story about a recent YouTube pranker who got shot in the gut and killed because he tried to prank somebody and the guy pulled a gun and killed him. I didn't know. I didn't know. I had no idea.

Zero idea. This is like completely out of my purview. I had no idea. So when I said this, it's like saying, I don't know, on JFK's murder day, me going, ah, the president sure likes to go back into the left. Or whatever, whatever joke I would make. And not knowing that, oh, he just was killed in Dallas like five minutes ago. I don't know.

So I guess what I'm saying is Twitter sucks. I guess that's what I mean. Exactly. I take it you didn't get a single person that said, oh, Scott, you might not have heard the recent news that came out about the YouTube. No, no. Funny enough. They, early, I know you well enough to say that you wouldn't have put this tweet had you known. So I apologize for having to be the one to let you know.

I kind of hate how well You just You just summed it up so well Like that's the missing piece Right Yeah Yeah All the other interactions

Fine it's like say stuff Reply of stuff Do stuff whatever But no one ever stops to go Maybe just maybe They didn't know about it Yeah exactly You know where you'll get that

You'll get that in the Frogpens Discord That's right Is you get it anywhere else That's right You might get something on YouTube From a family member I mean not YouTube Facebook

From a family member But that's about And that's a stretch that they'll even do that for you. That's a stretch. Yeah. So go to the, that's, hey, this has been a long loopback commercial for our Discord. Uh, frogpants.com slash Discord. Go join today.

You'd be welcome. Why did my aunt just cancel me on Facebook? I have an aunt that I wouldn't mind canceling me on Facebook. That's as much as I'll say about that. Sure. A reminder. A fan of cancel culture too. Oh, of course.

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for everybody. So go do that. We got a call about our theme. You know how I put out the word? I said, that you'd musically inclined people? You want to take a crack at our theme? We'd love to play it, you know? Yeah. Apparently, you got a couple of files waiting for me. I haven't checked the mail since that happened, but I will. Chuck Robinson has got, is either something in the works or maybe it's already arrived. Oh, I didn't know that. I'll just go check. That's awesome. So I'm going to play this call because it's weird and I can't figure it out. So here it is. Check it out. Hey, this is Jared from Omaha.

I have to lodge a complaint that I didn't know I had until I heard you say that you wanted to get musicians to do the theme and I realize I haven't heard the theme for weeks and weeks and weeks. I don't know if it's because I'm a Patreon and it doesn't play the theme, but when you guys do the pre-show, it then goes straight into the show and you start talking and I never hear the theme. I don't hear the Van Skyhawk theme. I don't hear the Bow theme.

I don't hear any themes And I want to hear the theme And it's the theme Give me the theme That's all Bye All right This makes no sense to me

Because every single file I post Patreon or not Because Patreon includes a bunch of pre-show That's true But then as soon as the pre-show You hear Brian and I Do the top of the show Coming up on

Yeah Our titles, exactly And then we roll into like some goofy clip Like you heard today You heard this This guy Let me let the cat out of the bag.

That guy with his Christian rock fart, whatever it was. And then you hear this. Whoops, that's quiet. Sorry. This. The morning. Or this. Or this.

You hear the theme every time. So I thought, wait, for weeks, what's he talking about? I go back just in case, like, I effed up. And it's entirely possible I screwed up. To see if there's an audio issue. Yeah. Maybe I glitched it out or I started a mark or two earlier. Who knows it's all possible.

And I'm not, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't immediately. like in sense. I was like, well, wait a man, maybe I screwed up. So I went back and I just checked them all. Yeah. They all have the theme. Yeah. So is he skipping it? I mean, it would be more work for you to edit those out than it would be to we record it live. Yeah, it'd be 100% of pain in the ass to do that. So

you guys, when you're here live, you hear the theme every day. And I don't, and that's the one I use in the final show. I don't go back and edit anything. So my guess is he's skipping pre-show and ends up right after the theme or something? I don't know. All right.

So there you go, dude. Yeah, that's really weird. If you're listening, what was his name? Hold on. What was his name? His name was. Hey, this is Jared from... Jared.

Jared from Oklahoma. Ohio? Whatever was. You are, you just... Odessa. Yeah, Odessa. Go check out a full version of the file. They're all on the feed and just tell me that you're...

I just got so flummoxed by this and I don't have a way to contact him, so... It's really weird. I don't want people. Are you sure you listening to our show? Yeah, is it our show? You're not hearing somebody say, NPR needs your help, give it a tote bag, or, you know, it's not like that. You don't hear Joe Rogan talking. If you're not hearing those things, if you're hearing Brian and I, then okay, you're here.

Yeah, you know, we need to do one of our titles today. Someone needs to submit this is, uh, and now the theme and more on this episode of the morning's true. I'm sure something's already brewing in the chat. There's a lot of people doing, like, where's the theme? where's my theme, et cetera, but we need to have a title. The last title we say in today's intro needs to be, and now the theme. Yeah, yeah. And here is the theme.

That's right. Terrible idea. After this short audio clip of somebody saying something dumb, here's the theme. Anyway, if you'll get back to me and let me know what you mean, or if you found it or what happened there, I just, I cannot sleep well, not knowing if this guy's getting the full show. It's driving me crazy in my head. Anyway, so there's that. We also got one about being alone. Brian, we've talked a bunch about how

you're a pretty good bachelor when Tina leaves town, I think. I am. Yeah. I think there's there's something about being... Two hookers per week. Yeah, that's a good minimum. You don't want to go nuts. Because there's still five days. I probably should get chores

done and play some video games. Yeah, two hookers is enough for any, really anyone of our age. Sorry. Sorry, sex workers. Sorry. Sorry, you guys. we were raised to say hookers we're trying we're doing our best anyway uh we're raised and say hookers that's just what everyone's said around us it's not like our mom sat me and brian down said now honey say hooker yeah that didn't happen yeah anyway uh what was my point oh so and we've talked

about how me done away and a few others i know of are terrible bachelors when our wives leave we're awful at it i have a theory that it has uh more a little bit any way to do i think brian's just a independent spirit but i think i think it also has a little bit to do with being an only child. When you kind of left to yourself a lot or you don't have a brother or sister vying for attention or any of that, I think it might be just a natural slide into that space, whereas some of us are just like, I'm used to all this people telling me what to do or whatever, and we just somehow we want it.

I don't know why we do that. Anyway, without understanding how it works entirely, I want to play this thing from Amanda who wrote in. So here you go. Hi, my name's Amanda. I'm calling for TMS. I was just listening to one of your past shows where Brian Dunaway was on his own for a week without the spouse and kids. And you guys were talking about how Brian Ibbett is probably the best bachelor, but still you guys can't be left on your own for very long. I just wanted to pipe up that as a woman, I am horrible by myself.

If my husband is gone for a week or so, I am kind of. completely worthless. I go to bed late. I don't get up on time. I eat crappy foods. I play video games all day. So it's not just the guys that struggle. It's the women as well. Thanks for all you do. Bye. It's good to know. Wow. No kidding. That surprises me. Because whenever I always feel like, you know, the women in our lives are the ones who are put together. They know what they're doing. They're the ones like you said, keep us on track. They're the ones who tell us what to do. and we do it dutifully when they're around. So I would just expect that, you know, that it's across the board.

Yeah, I would have too. Or I would have, at the very least, I guess I would have thought, I don't know, they just feel, this, again, it says a lot of stereotypes in here, so forgive me, but my wife is just straight up better at life, like life stuff, like making sure, oh, do we have enough food for the week during the snowstorm? do we know who's getting picked up and going where when are the kids have their braces appointments like I don't know any of the shit

like I should I'm not saying I shouldn't I'm not saying I should be as a man naturally absolved of all those responsibilities but she's so good at it that I just want to think about it and when she leaves then I'm like oh crap I have to think about these things now and I don't like it and then I start getting to my own head about oh I hope I die before she does because, you know, I can't do this.

I'll be lost without her, yeah. Yeah, I can't do this, but she can do it. Yeah, but in my head, I'm like, she'll be fine. I'm not, what am I doing? You know, she's not going to, she'll be okay if she'd leave. But anyway, it's an interesting dynamic, and I appreciate the call. I think Amanda's want someone who called Skim before and is involved in something law enforcement-wise. Anyway, I think she's much cooler than she's letting on here.

I think she's kind of awesome. Yeah. Uh, anyway, uh, September says, yeah, I'm surprised you guys have the gender, that gender role idea, regardless if putting it as a compliment. It's, you know, it's not even like we're trying to compliment women, which we do, but it's like, you know, we, we just always assume that you guys are so, so much better put together. I feel like you are better people. I'm sorry. Like, I get, I get yelled at for this. The, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, dudes rights people, they get mad when I say this, but I just think, like when we've talked about before, who would you rather get a massage from or who, who, who, better yet, who, which, which doctor would you like to have examine you? You know, your most vulnerable state. I'm standing there. You're got to check, check my prostate, you know, all these things that nobody wants to do. I prefer a woman, not because, ooh, a lady's going to be none.

That's not it. It's that I trust her more. I can't wait to turn my head and cough. I trust her more. I just do. And I don't know what that is in me, but I've always had a lot of really strong women in my life. And I feel like, I just feel better. Like, you know, every once in a while, every once in like 30 years, a woman picks up a gun and kills somebody.

Men do it every five seconds. Every, every war that's ever been started in this world that I know of was started by some dude. Yeah. The women don't do it now. In a lot of cases, they were, you know, they were the societal, in their societies, they were, very repressed and couldn't do anything, let alone start a war. But so I'm not, you know, I'm acknowledging what history is. But my whole point is, I trust them more.

I just straight up trust them more. I would trust, I would trust a female president more. I would trust, you know, I don't know. If the head of Disney was female, I'd be, I'd be stoked. I don't know what it is. I just think they have a better sense of like right and wrong. And I know this is, I realize I'm painting this with a broad brush, Brian. I know.

Yes. No, it's just, it's just the, The amount of extra paint you're using is the... I'm digging into a third can here. The side is a little doodle, and now it's turned into the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Yeah, it's just... I don't know. No, I know exactly what you mean.

Listen, doctor-wise, honestly, 99% of the time I don't care if I get my regular GP or another doctor there or one of the PAs. but if it's yeah we need to do a prostate check okay uh who's who's got the skinniest fingers yeah who's got the yeah you're going you're going over a finger slenderness and as it turns out the ladies uh just naturally muscle bone density and all that women have little skinny fingers so i just did this i flip my i flip my computer off i didn't mean to do that we'll get uh we'll get uh janelle to to take a look at you oh great um is she more the um the the ming Nauwen type or the Ronda Rousey type. What, uh, you know, give me the,

what a weird poll. I know, I could not, I said, God, I could not think of like a, you know, another small, uh, dainty, like. Yeah, I would have gone like Anya Taylor Joy or something, but Brian would write. Oh, yeah, go right to Mingna win, yeah. I think, I think of ER is basically, what I think of, oh, that's a good point because she was on there. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. You don't want, you don't want George Clooney's.

big hairy knuckle up your butt? No, no. Maybe Anthony Edwards, he, you know. He got a slender figure. Smaller than sure, he didn't have big meat fists like George Clooney. That went places I didn't expect, but I'm glad you went there. All right. One final thing before we call Amy. This is interesting.

We got an email from Mark the CPA in Portland. So we got an actual certified public accountant. Excellent. Who says this. Hello, Scott. CPA here, just listened to today's show, and I thought I'd clear up a common misconception about flat rate taxes, because I was going on about, hey, it should be 20, 30%, whatever it is, and we're done, which always sounds good, right? But there's always, there's the devil's in the

details. So he says, while the flat tax rate would certainly be bad for the billionaires, it is really those on the lower end of the scale who would suffer the most. For someone near the poverty level, the amount of disposable income you have is much smaller than someone with a high income. For example, if I'm a rich guy and I make $100k per month, a 30% flat tax would leave me with $70,000 to spend. If I'm a poor guy scraping by on $1,000 per month, that flat tax would leave me with $700. That's 30% is going to affect the poor much more. This is why flat taxes are roughly described. Of the 100% of the 10% of the people making 45%. I admit, I will at least admit last night reading

this email. I kind of heard it in his voice. But I'm more heard it in your impression of him than I remember. Yeah, yeah. And my impression of him, I think, is really my impression of Larry David's impression of him, basically, I think, yeah. Which is, we all think is the best, right? We all like his thing. I think so, yeah, I think so.

Even though he even, Larry David even admits, I don't do a very good Bernie Sanders, but I think it's great. He's got the Dana Carvey rule, though. It's like you've, the essence of that is perfect for you because you're similar age, your hair's all white and pulled back like that, like, you look like Bernie Sanders anyway. Exactly. So, yeah, works really well.

So anything you say, even partially sounding like him is going to work. He goes on to say, this is why flat taxes are often described as regressive. They hurt those at the bottom much more. I thought I would clear that up. Mark the CPA. I didn't, I mean, I'm bad at numbers anyway, but I hadn't thought of that at all. So that's really interesting. And I trust him.

Now, if he was a lady accountant, boy, would I trust him. Even more. That's right. Our lady accountant, we have. We have a lady accountant working on our taxes right now. Yes, that's right. Smile, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, whatever his name was. Yeah.

We could do it ourselves, but no, we can't do it ourselves. No, there's another value swap, right? You find your time and your brain power more valuable than... My sanity, more valuable. Whatever you got to pay. Exactly. Totally. Yeah, no, it's...

And that's super complicated with me as it is for you, because, you know, we've got the podcast business. We've got the stuff I do for Lyft, which is now a separate business. We've got the freelance stuff that I do separately. We've got Tina's work. You know, we've got all these different things. And fortunately, just about everything I buy fits in one of those four categories. That is, okay, I'm going to go ahead and make, I'm going to add on to that. I'm making an admission from the podcast creator world, all right? Yes, sure. The one nice thing about our jobs, especially if we have a diverse lineup. So here we have a kind of

variety morning show. Later, I have a video game show. Right. A movie show where we talked about streaming things on all the services. Absolutely. All those services, they are write-offs. And by write-offs, we don't mean free. We mean that, you know, they're tax write-offs.

If you don't know what that means, go read about it. Everything that I do for travel of any kind, I can convert to that. Because there's a chance I'll be doing work I do meetups everywhere I go. Right. All right.

You just make sure you do a meetup and you're good. Every lunch I go to I can ride off. And when we buy hardware, it's like, or in my case, I buy 50 Steam games this year. Yeah. Guess what? That whole thing. Frog pants plays. Exactly.

It's pretty great. Three Rangers jokingly says, so Brian can claim the cup noodles he bought as a tax rider for TMS. Yes. Because would I have bought it otherwise? No, I bought it to eat on the show. Yep. Of course. 100% a work thing.

As weird as that sounds, it is. I have a card that I use specifically for all, anything that is related to any of the freelance, podcast, lift, whatever work that I do. Same. Which one do you, so I use an American Express because I give me big rewards at the end of the year. What do you do for that?

I have a Southwest Airlines card that gets me points. And at the end of the year, I can trade in those points to sit at the airport while they lose my luggage and can't fly me anywhere for Christmas. It's a great, it's a great trade. No, but seriously, nine times out of ten, and the years I've had it, it's been fantastic. The points, points you get with Southwest, because we had the companion pass, not last year. I'm sorry, we had it last year.

I didn't get it this year. But, you know, if you, for your business, you're spending $100,000 a year or something, thing or maybe it's even less than that because you get double and triple for certain categories. Right. You get companion pass so that when you buy a ticket for yourself, your wife, son, partner, whatever, gets to go along free. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good. If you're traveling a lot, that seems like a no-brainer. And if anybody out there is considering signing up, hit me up, I'll give you a code and you'll start off with like 50,000 points. It'll be halfway to halfway to a companion pass for the year. Do you get something cool for that too? Do you get a benefit from that?

I also get points, yeah, for sure, when I refer somebody. Let's share points, everybody. Get in there. Get that done. No, I'd recommend doing it even without the points. That's a really good thing. You know, I'll give one other little quick credit card tip. Go.

You're going to Disneyland. Even if you never use it for anything else, sign up for a Disney visa because your first purchase is like 25% off. So your Disney trip all of a sudden just got super, super cheap. Wow. That's a great tip. And then never use that card again. You've got a cute little Millennium Falcon credit card that you can show everybody that you'll never use again. That's great.

I think ours is through Costco. It's American Express, but it's through Costco. So we get some huge Costco thing at the end of the year. Yeah. We love that because right around the holidays, you're like, where'd this 300 bucks come from? Let's go spend it at Costco on toys and stuff for the kids and whatever. It's pretty great. For sure.

If you want to be one of the books. Yeah, yeah. I was just going to say, if you want to. Be a part of this kind of conversation. Send us one of those voicemails or texts to 8014710462 or The MorningStream at gmail.com like our CPA friend did. And you could be on the show. While you're getting Amy called up, I'll say big thanks to Ender Panda. He was the person who wrote in and didn't leave a name yesterday talking about ghost insurance.

Oh, okay. Cool. Ender Panda, he reached out to me and said, oh, I'm so glad you guys enjoyed my message about ghost insurance. And so I said, oh, that's awesome. Love giving you credit for the stuff you send you guys. And if you don't remember to do it, just tell us later. We don't care. We just love to give you credit.

Exactly. Speaking of credit, let's do some reading. One of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Same with us, nondescript, man. I don't remember where I got that clip from. We're going to go ahead and do a little read this with Amy Robinson, who joins us now. Hi, Amy. Welcome back.

Hello. Yeah. You know, I think that clip sounds like, it sounds a little bit like Matthew McConaughey, but like not enough to where I'm sure that that's who it is. Oh, let me try it again. Let me see if we can suss that out. One of the things that I enjoy also is really- Oh, I just remember where I got it. I know where I got it.

It's, um, it just hit me. It was one of those old 80s dating profile videos. And so that's a guy telling the ladies what he likes to do. I also enjoy reading and fishing and the whatever. And he goes on and on. That's where I got it from. Those were great. Those were great, dude.

80s, freaking VHS video dating. Dating videos. Oh, man. What a time. The treasure trove. What a time to be alive. Also, any 80s videos are fantastic. I follow a bunch of accounts on TikTok where they're like, they play all these old

PSAs and stuff. Like I saw one this morning with Michael J. Fox telling kids not to play with matches. Nice. It was fantastic. You'll have to share that one with me. I have a whole bunch I follow also on the. The one I get a lot of show content from was this one called VCR party.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I follow them. I think they have a big YouTube thing going on, too, that they're more famous for, but they just put up a little short, weird VHS stuff from like the early 90s and 80s, and they're all horrible and wonderful. And a lot of them are like those kinds you would buy and say, well, you bought this video because you all want to learn how to hunt with a stick.

Well, me and my brother, Bubba, you know, like that kind of stuff. stuff. I love it. I could watch it all day. Anyway, Amy, welcome back. I'm just trying to visualize the Michael J. Fox videos. Kids, don't play it with matches, kids. It's really bad. But, you know, you could be like Alex P. Keaton and us and take no-dose and other sleep prevention

drugs like I did on family ties. Okay. Bye, kids. The more you know. Suddenly, it's like, it's like teenage Trump. Like, your Michael J. Fox became teenage Trump. Yeah, what the heck? What was that about?

That's weird. Hey, Doc. How to get it back to the night today. Five, excuse me, Doc. I've got to get back. Yeah. Trying to find it, but I can't find it. Oh, man, YouTube sucks.

YouTube goes from, you know, YouTube goes from, let's see, Michael J. Fox says Parkinson's sucks. And then you scroll down two things, top 10 Michael J. Fox performances. And then one more thing, is Michael J. Fox faking his Parkinson's disease? Like, shut up, YouTube. Oh, crime and E. Half off. Seriously. Yeah, no, this was very, like, it was Michael J. Fox, but as Alex P. Keaton, like, he had, like, a golf shirt and, and pleaded khakis. And, like, really? And he had the little head, you know, that little head flick he used to do with it, where his hair just flipped the right way.

Yes, right. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a, oh, when they have to do that stuff in character, it's even better. It's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's an sheriff Andy Taylor telling you to make sure. Yeah, I love that. They have to do it in character or else what's the point? Do it like the cartoons, like he, man and Shira talking about getting touched inappropriately. Hey, hey, Bonnie, I really love these new chestafield cigarettes. You do a good Fred. It's a good friend.

That was pretty good. Yeah, I haven't seen the Flintstones in a while. That strikes me as a strong Fred. All right, Amy, let's dive in. We got a clip today in all this stuff. What's going on for our reading assignments? All right. So, as promised, I have returned.

to fictional world. So, yeah, I was kind of in the mood for something with little suspense to it. So with that, we'll play the clip. I like some suspense here and there. Let's see what you got. She makes a tea and takes it back up to the picture window, continuing her vigil. She'll wait as long as it takes. She stares out into the October mist.

And there is Todd outside on the street at last. She hides a smile. Thanks to the clock's going back, he is deliberately no longer late. That's Todd for you. But wait, Todd's seen something. He stops dead, squints. Jen follows his gaze and then she sees it too. A figure hurrying along the street from the other side.

He is older than Todd, much older. Something is wrong. Something is about to happen. Jen is sure of this without being able to name what it is, some instinct for danger. She sets the mug on the window sill, calls Kelly, then rushes down the stairs two at a time, the striped runner rough on her bare feet.

She throws on shoes, then pauses for a second, with her hand on the metal front doorknob. What? What's that feeling? She can't explain it. Is it deja vu? She hardly ever experiences it. She blinks, and the feeling is gone,

as insubstantial as smoke. Jen runs towards Todd and the stranger. But before she's even realized what is happening, Kelly's shouted out, Stop! Todd is running and within seconds has the front of this stranger's hooded coat in his grasp. He is squaring up to him, his shoulders thrust forwards, their bodies together. The stranger reaches a hand into his pocket. Kelly is running towards them, looking panicked, his eyes going left and right, up and down the street.

Todd, no, he says. And that's when Jen sees the knife. Oh, shit. Oh. There's a nice. Todd. Todd. What are you doing?

You know what? A British lady can make Todd sound like a cool name. No offense, Todd. Todd. Todd. No offense to all our Todd listeners. I'm just saying. That's Todd for you.

Yeah. It's Todd for you. If I say Todd, it sounds like, oh, Todd. You know, but a British person? That's Todd all over. Yeah, it's much better. Todd, T-A-W-D, says Benching. Todd.

So what is this intriguing, mysterious novel? Yes. So this book is called Wrong Place, Wrong Time by Jillian McAllister. And I gobbled it up in like two and a half days. It was really, really good. You heard basically the setup there. So woman observes something horrific. And then she wakes up the next morning and she's in the day before.

And then at, you know, and so nothing has happened yet at nobody knows what she's talking about. Everybody thinks she's a little bit crazy. And then each day she wakes up and it's a little bit earlier. And so it's not, it's not groundhog day. She's not living the same day over and over again. She's going further and further back into the past. Oh, weird. And, yeah.

And it's, it's, it's really, yeah, it's really. Memento except, I guess Memento was just shown in that order because of the short-term memory. Never mind, it wasn't like, yeah. It's not at all like the ball. It's like that. You know what it actually reminded me of, Brian, was a timely persuasion by Jacob Lissida. It was very, it was very similar to that in that the sort of the time travel aspect of it is it's not, there's not two of her or anything like that. There's, she wakes up in her own body from the past.

And it is... Did I know that you'd, uh, that you had read this book? Did I know, do know that you had read, uh, timely persuasion? Yes. So, okay, we, A, we've talked about it on here before I've mentioned it. And I'll, also, the way I got that book was that I won it from you on a Coverville contest, like a really, really, really long time ago. Way back in the day. The tri-force media or whatever we were, what was that called the thing we were all involved in?

Uh, the Lynn and us. oh yeah try tripod network that's what it was tripod network yeah yeah remember that that was weird Amy Amy read some of that stuff back in the day if I remember right some of those jingles anyway yeah I did some like some some little bumpers for you guys and whatnot because I was really into doing that back then yep those were the days anyway well this sounds by the way I'm happy to do but of course you know Fletcher you got Fletcher well

Fletcher's a hardcore you know he's a real he'll fight you is what it'll do He'll fight. You know, Fletcher's a dude, and we all know, Scow would prefer ladies. I prefer ladies to dudes, as I've mentioned. Yeah, so you guys were cracking me up and like before you called me. I'm like sitting here, like, because usually I'll have like one or two things that I want to call back to. And finally, I just, I was like, I just threw the pencil across the room.

I was like, forget it. Like, there's too many things to call back to. Because you guys are just cracking me up. Sure. But, yes, I will say that when Chuck goes out of. town, I am the one who is a complete, like, really mess. Yeah. I mean, now, you know, I shower and I, you know, I do the things. And I'm usually, you know, I'm usually, like, I'm usually spending the time, like, doing some kind of a crafty project or something like that. But, yeah, like, I eat, like, ridiculous mess. Like, I, you know, door dash it or, you know, I have this one, like, egg sandwich that I like to make. It's just like, But, you know, I guess a little fried egg sandwich. It's very simple, but I...

Crack Madame or something. Sure. Yeah. It's like, no, it's not even that complicated. It's literally like, you know, like scramble up an egg, fry it. And then put it between two pieces of ice, like, you know, with a little bit of mayo. I relate to this too much. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Um, that's, that's it. So, uh, yeah, like, that's how I eat when Chuck is not here, especially, like, if the kids are here it's a little different like I will actually feel like okay we need some kind of meal but it'll be door dashed you know most likely it'll be door dashed so yeah so it's it's me I'm I am the one who you're the one that knocks keep it together in the in the household

I guess there's probably you know every couple's going to have a version of this but I wonder if they're anywhere the people just go nope we're equal in every way there's absolutely zero difference. It doesn't matter. I paid the bills today. She paid them tomorrow. We're all the same. They probably exist, right? Those people? I think so. I mean, I do all the bill. Well, I do 90% of the bills here. She just manages, I would say 100% of the house. Yeah. There isn't evenness there. But yeah. Thankfully, Kim handles all the, like, get everything ready for the accountant every year. Because I would lose my mind. Yeah. That's also, I will say that's my job. I have to. I have to gather up all the stuff. But I'm proud to say that I did it.

And I did it. Well done. It's now done. And it's sent off to the accountant in time to not have to file an extension. Guess who I trust more than myself to do the taxes. My wife. Oh, without a doubt. And she's a lady is all I'm saying.

Without a doubt. You know, I would like to get a book on taxes. But by the way, speaking of books, what's the name of this shit out of luckbook.com? The name of this shit out of luck.com is wrong place. Wrong time by Jillian McAllister. It sounds great. I'm in the mood for some hard. You're going to segues.

I'm in the mood for some hardcore mystery. You've brought what I'm in the mood for. Plus it's sci-fi. Like there's a little bit of a sci-fi feel to it. Yeah. A little bit of a sprinkling of time travel and all, you know, all that kind of stuff. And it's very, it's very like, it reads like a British crime drama. You know what I mean?

Like if you're watching one of those TV shows where it's like multiple episodes to solve the same crime, it reads like that. So it's really interesting, except she's not a cop. She's just a person who witnessed something. And then suddenly is going backwards in time. Totally. Because if she was a cop, she'd have to tell us that she's a cop. Yeah, that's the rule. Isn't that the rule?

Yeah. You have to tell me your cop. She was nice to say hooker. Yeah. You know what? in a weird way, Breaking Bad was educational in that one regard. I kind of thought you did have to say it, but you don't. You don't have to say that you're a cop, at least not in that state, not New Mexico.

So I don't know how that works here. It's really funny that people thought that you have to say. I really did. No, totally believed. Yeah, I totally believed it. You have to tell me you're a cop because, you know, there was like something where if you were undercover and you were going to arrest or you had to, you know, you were going to make a drug deal, you had this, if you're a cop, you're required by law to say.

your cop, that is such horseship. But I just assumed it was true. It feels so dumb that we would have thought that. If there were any, if that ever worked, there would be no undercover cops. Right. Every person a drug dealer meets, they would go, are you a cop? No, you're absolutely right. Everybody would just hand out, hand out pins that you just wear on your shirt that say,

are you a cop so that, you know, you would have to ask the question. It's like, I'm a cop, sorry. It was really nice for about a day feeling I was like I was as stupid as badger, you know? Like for that hot minute, Badger and I, and we were right here together, parallel lives. I was as dumb as him. But my favorite thing about that storyline was like when they've got Bob Odenkirk, like at gunpoint.

And he's like, wait, why are you going to kill me? Why don't you just kill Badger? Yeah. And they kind of look at each other and go, crap, we didn't think of that. Yeah. Also, we're not going to kill Badger. Yeah, you can't kill Badger. I love Badger.

You can't kill Badger. Oh, Badger and Skinny Peach should live forever, those two. I say, you know, we're done with Better Call Saul. let's move on and have a better call Badger. Yeah, better call Badger. Yeah. Or don't call Badger and make it a three camera and laugh track sitcom or something. That'd be funny.

Yeah. If you call Badger, you're F. Yeah, you're screwed. If you get to the, if you get to Badger and you're, I was about to say your Rolodex, hi. Yeah, hey. Well, oh, speaking of the VHS days, my gosh, that's great. Even then I had a sharp wizard or something to do all that for me. But anyway, it's always good to have you on this.

book sounds like a good one. It'll be up on quicktms.l.I as well. And always, always good to hear from you. We'll have at least one more of these. No, two more of these before we see you, right? I think. We should. Yeah. Two more Thursday. Oh, I'm so excited. I'm working on stuff. Nervous breakdown on the 20th and I'll need that day off, a mental health day to get stuff. We may actually end up needing one of those days. We'll see how things go. But this is the week where all the swag rolls into the house and I'm starting to feel that itch of like, oh, got to box it all up and do all the stuff. And then some of it we can't box up

until we get to Vegas. So we're trying to organize like where will this all fit in the trunk and don't really have a trailer. So we're just going to figure it on. I've got a big old arcade cabinet printing right now on the old 3D printer. Nice.

Someone's going to win that shit. All right. Will it be you? And I'm pointing to everybody. The collective view will it be you? It won't be me because I'm keeping score. That's right. I'm so glad you're going to be doing that.

Yeah, you and I need to coordinate on on the best tool for you to use to manage the brackets. The brackets. Yeah, because we're going to have multiple brackets, right? No, one bracket. Oh, one bracket. Yeah, 64 players. We're capping it.

Come on now. I'm not doing this whole. No double bracket. No double bracket, man, because last year somebody, and it wasn't the winner, but somebody was able to skate by the first four rounds because they were the other bracket. All they had to do was win their round. And they automatically were added to the fourth round of the regular one.

So it's like, yeah, you know, in hindsight, especially since we've got some $50 steam cards on the line, we've got to make this a little bit more. Yeah. So that anonymous person. Man, that person bought some, that's a lot of cards. It's awesome. I know. It's, by my count, it's $200 worth of gift cards.

Yeah, and since Brian and I can play this year, Brian and I are going to play real hard. Okay, everybody. We're at 51 entry, actually 53. because you and me, Scott. So 53 entrance into the VivaTMSVegas.com form for playing in the competition. Yep. And if Wabit Magic's brother-in-law shows up, all bets are off. That's all I'm saying.

Wait, I thought it was monkey bananas. Or monkey bananas, sorry. It's monkey bananas. That's brother. That guy was some, was he brother-in-law or brother? I guess brother. He was a-old play a fighting game with that guy. No.

Nope. But I will put a bounty on his head. I'll have something to give away. Yes, I do have something that I will give away that I can't say. I won't be able to say what it is until the live TMS. Right. There will be a bounty on Monkey Banana's brother. So what everyone needs to do is bring their own just,

Brian's not going to tell you what it is, but bring a U-Haul truck. Because we're just letting you know you need to bring something big. Several empty rolls of filament. Yep. Line up. Yep. Everybody bring big space to store it in. All right. As always, it's a pleasure. Amy, have a great day. She's read Fraggle 3 everywhere, including the aforementioned TikToks. I go follow her on there.

She's always doing fine videos. Amy, have a great week. We'll see you next time. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye now. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. That's a cute way of saying that. I just did a really cool 3D print, a set of 3D prints for Amy for her pottery stuff, little stamps that she can stamp on the bottom before they get fired. Oh, do you have to put a little rubber part on there or something? Or is it just... No, no, no, not rubber stamps like, you know, ink and then stamp.

It's like little raised area that you stamp into the clay before you fire the pot so that it hard, like it basically has a little indentation of her logo and all that stuff. Like a little relief or whatever, whatever you call that, yeah. You could all use a little relief. Yeah, like a branding. It's almost like branding except... It's exactly like branding, yeah, except without fire and heat. And cow butts.

There's no cow butts. And cow butts, correct, yes, those as well. No cow butts involved. All right. Speaking of cow butts, let's do one news story. Okay. I don't know why cow butts have anything to do with that. But hey, you heard me.

It is time for the news, quick news, and brought to you by. Zashima in our Discord does some amazing artwork. Don't believe us, check out tiny.cc slash zashima spelled X-E-S-H-E-M-A. It's a cool name and some very. cool artwork. Go check it out. Yeah, Zashima. Cool person in our Discord. Let's do this quick story about a laundromat that explodes.

It almost killed a dude after a very simple washing mistake. All right, so we're going to learn a little something today, and we're going to share this video, which is pretty wild. All right, let me pull it up there so the chat can see it. Here we go. Simple laundry mistake almost cost him in his life after he narrowly escaped a fiery explosion at a laundromat in Spain. You know the old saying about Spain?

I don't know what it is. Says you're terrifying footage of the moment. A tumble dryer blew the shop to pieces with Ozzie's now being warned not to make the same air. This is actually in Australia is where they did this. Yeah, even though it was Spain. Yeah. We can all learn from Spain, says the world. We really can.

I'm trying to see. Where'd the video go? Oh, did they remove the video? Oh, no. Oh, poop. Maybe it's linked off. Let's see. There's photos.

It is gnarly. By the way, the photos look like the guy is there one second and he's vaporized. Yeah, I know, right? Right. Like he's the one that exploded. And he barely got out of there before... I don't have the video. Dang it. Someone in the chat may find it. It was linked on this article

before and they removed it. I don't know why. Well, anyway, he walks out of there and boom, the whole thing exploded. So here's what happened. Somebody left a lighter in the their pocket that got washed and then put in the dryer and the lighter exploded, which seems crazy to me because there's, you know, but I just wouldn't have expected it to be this big. But anyway, it says when damaged in the right conditions, this can cause a huge fire and or

explosion. The message here is to always check your pockets, not only for the tissues that turn your clothes into a white mess, but also I used to call my aunt Connie a white mess. Anyway, moving on. more importantly for the modern conveniences such as batteries and lighters and phones

and stuff like that so video in our in our discord oh here we go uh okay here we go

put this up chat and see it check this out chat room although you have the link you'll see it here see this guy just walking out yeah

oh my gosh and he's just barely out of here and then it was just out of here like he look at that oh my gosh and the thing vomits the clothes out first yeah like at first like enough pressure from the building up I guess just pressure before the oxygen outside erupts into the fire maybe something like that all I know is that makes me yeah that's a hell of a ringer for letting you know your clothes are done Wow.

Exactly. Anyway, be careful. Also, the dude needs to get better, like, laundry baskets, not carry around in shop go bags or whatever those. Yeah, that's a weird way to keep your laundry, isn't it? Because you're going to have to do some ironing when you get home with all that stuff. I also felt like it slowed him down and made him closer to his potential...

No kidding, yeah. Can you imagine if you would have dropped one of those bags or dropped a piece of clothing out of one of those bags, bent down to pick it up. Cabooie! I would have laughed, or would have laughed. I would have liked to have seen video footage. footage of him on the outside what his reaction was.

Because he couldn't have been, what, a five, ten steps away from that by the time it blew up? I'm guessing it was some form of, Dios meo! Because he's in Spain. Because he's in Spain. Yeah, yeah.

I like that a lot. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy will join us. And we're supposed to remind her of something, but nobody can remember what it is. Do you remember? Yeah, no, I can't.

Claire said it in the chat, but she can't remember why. She just remembers that we needed to. She just don't freaking remember. So we'll find out when she gets her. Maybe she'll remember by us reminding her. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. That's all coming up in a minute, but we can't do any of that without music.

So Brian, please present some, if you don't mind. Yeah, this is a band that is blowing up right now. Completely unintended pun there. You can hear them on Spotify's All New Rock, Alternative Noise, Apple Music's Breaking Hard Rock, Amazon Music's Modern Shugays, Fresh Rock, Deezer's Asap Rock, and Pandora's New Punk Now. These guys are going everywhere. They have a brand new EP coming out June 8th. This is the first single from it.

The band is called Super Bloom, and the song is Head First. I have fun of my seat I can't still crash my car Once it like to burn out Once it like to be a star That's fall down If it's really bad So don't come back

No, I don't care at all You see me when I get bored Like to close my eyes So I can't feel the stir Blown to me up in what's big At first kind of drink I don't want my seat It really doesn't matter now

At all Never had the real thing So put on your nylon smile You buy If it's really bad Tell me where you want So don't come there No, I don't care at all

Used to be when I get bored I'd like to close my eyes So I can't feel the swirl blow on me up here but it's sweet his first kind of dream the space

in between when you're hearing when you're gone I'm having on the week you don't know what I'm Never swim through the bright sun You see me when I get bored

Like to close my eyes So I can't feel The shrubborn need a big of sleep At first Kind of drink I have all my seat, I just think, I just think, if you don't read, and the only the newspaper and the only TV you watch is the MTV, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. The thing is, I don't know what I'm doing.

The morning stream. I was born without a conscience. And we're back. Who is that again? sure that was the band super bloom from brooklyn new york uh got another nice slice of the 90s kind of sound uh you heard some earlier this week this is another band with that kind of feel here is head first or that was head first by i'm announcing it again let's play it again scott um that is head first by super boom from their upcoming ep life's a blur when you do coverville for that many years that statement is built into you now it really is yes here's here's billy joel with uh yeah

Yep. You got the Casey Kasem gets into your blood and you can't get it out. I feel you. We're calling Wendy. We are experiencing rings of ringage. We don't know if we'll get rings of speakage, but we suspect we will. We were going to remind her that she wasn't going to answer her phone. Oh, that's what it was. That's what we forgot to remind her. She'll never pick it up. Also, maybe if this bug is pervasive throughout the world, maybe she's not getting the ringtone either. No, possibly. Entirely possible. So hopefully she's looking at her phone or whatever device she'll be answering this on. And I'm ringing, and we're ringing. We're still ringing. Oh, weird.

All right, let's see. I'll tell you what I'll do. I know what I'll do. So while we went for Wendy, there was a guy who put up a post about how he has been in and out of therapy for decades. A couple, 20 years of therapy. Different therapists doing different work,

different levels of success. But never really quite feeling it. All right? He claims he sat down with, chat GPT and within one night he had gotten more therapy out of chat GPT than he did any actual therapist and literally that's what he means he's sitting there asking and sussing out stuff from chat GPT for therapy okay and he says the differences are the the the chat GPT doesn't get sick of you the way that therapists can well at least not outwardly not outwardly it might be but you don't

know yeah we don't know but as far as we can tell it doesn't seem to care about that stuff. It doesn't it doesn't have any of the biases that humans have regardless of their level of training. He was explained his whole thing about how he could get straight up amazing therapy via chat

GPT and that the future of therapeutic help will happen through the help of AI. What do you think of that, Brian? Do you think that'll be true? I... What does your gut tell you on this? Your gut? My gut. My gut tells me actually it's it's kind of

believable, really. I mean, if it's looking, the thing is, it can't tell, it can only tell what you're saying and can't do any sort of figuring out what you're not saying, which I think is probably 90 or 80% of therapy. Right. So you can say, well, you know, I have all these weird feelings about my father or my mother, whatever. And a therapist can look at you while you say that and kind of suss out, oh, wow, I think he's got, there's something underlying there. When he said father, he said in a different way. Let's stick deeper into that. I would say, you are connected to your parents by genetics.

And that is a thing that can sometimes cause problems. Oh, human's our dad. Yeah, like that. Oh, speaking to which, Wendy's hair. Hi, Wendy. Sorry. Perfect lead into Wendy, right? Hey, can you tell me, did the thing ring for you or was it silent?

Something's weird. And so I was going to text you, be like, am I just going to stay here? And then I saw yours. I'm like, oh, no. No, it's, I think there's something. There's a bug with Discord's ringing. I don't know what's going on. Brian doesn't get a ring now either, so I don't know what's going on.

Yeah, I'm sure they're on it. Oh, well, if Wendy's here, we've got to play this. Wendy. I mean, random. Not a chance. It's good to have you back. It's my sister Wendy. She's a real therapist, not in some robot.

And she's here to talk to us about some cool stuff. I want to hear you guys talk about how AI is going to take over my job. Well, here's what happened. That's what we're saying is your job is probably the most safe job out there. Yeah, I think you're secure. This guy, so this guy was, this guy claimed. that using chat GPT was better than 20 years of therapy. He'd gotten more out of the responses that he was getting there

than he ever got from real therapists, which is kind of a bold statement. And I think Brian's right about body language and like nonverbal. All that, yeah. All that stuff matters. And the AI, at least is currently constituted, isn't going to see those things. But there's a future where cameras and predictive models

and stuff can kind of see the way a person moves or acts says and maybe. I detected an eye twitch when you mentioned your spouse. I love that they're just going to be these crappy robots. This actually leads so well into what I want to talk about today, actually. I'm going to argue really quick

that that guy, whatever, whoever this person is, probably true. Probably true for him. True for him, you say. True for him. Yeah. I see. That's a cat. I can imagine 20 years of talking to people. and it's not quite getting what you need.

And then this thing hits the spot. I mean, I don't find that threatening one bit. I'm like, oh, that's cool. Someone take a little of the load off. But also, you know, everyone's going to be really different, right? Like, I have people who I see everybody online since COVID, and I have not gone back to an office just because I don't have one currently. And there are people who are like, I need to be in the same room with you.

And I'm like, yeah, all right, because you're going to go to see someone else because that's not what I'm doing right now. I think there will always be a need for a variety of things. And so, you know, better help. You guys are familiar with that. You hear it on ads for it all the time. Yeah. They've done ads with us before in the past. Yeah.

So they provide a service that is just never going to work for Aunt Betty, but it's going to work for like maybe somebody who only wants text. And that is the way to start or whatever. Right. And they do a variety of things. But I think you'll find maybe once we're all AI living, it'll change more because more people will be, you know, comfortable or something. But I could see a future where it gets good enough. But there is something about human interaction. Unless they put skin on it.

I don't know. There's a way to make this creepy and fun. But I don't know. That's interesting. Before, oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I was just going to ask about this thing that we, maybe you were going to ask same thing. I was.

something you were supposed to remind you of today last week. He said, don't let me forget next week to say this. And the chat remembers to do that. We remember to do it. But we don't remember what we're reminding you of. It was some topic that required a lot more discussion than we had time for last week. Right. Right. Right. Well, and I also completely lost it. I mean, I wonder if there's a recording somewhere. But anyway, no one look at up. Because that's not what I'm prepared to talk about today. Oh, good. You're going to talk about something else anyway. Okay. It's pretty complicated. I mean, I think I'll get it. back to it. I think I have a memory of it and I'm definitely need more time to prep if that's

what we're going to talk about. But actually, it kind of leads to a little bit what you guys were discussing. So this is funny. I run it by Adam. I'm like, okay, I can't remember what I was supposed to talk about. What should I talk about? He just made up a bunch of dumb ones. And then he said, what if you just steal like dear prudence questions and answer those? And I was like, I'm not going to do that. But then I looked up a couple of dear prudence questions. Oh my gosh, I'm not going to do that. That is not a fun job, Prudence. Anyway, they're also, you know, eye-catchy.

But anyway, so what I was thinking, though, of just a couple of things that have occurred in the last few weeks with some clients that feel like they're, you know, ageless in that we struggle with this because it's human psychological principles, but just, you know, how they play out in your life. So we're going to talk about a couple, like, you know, some thinking disorders and some biases that we have as humans. So we've talked about a few of these on the show before we went through the list of thinking errors, you know, justification and rationalization, that kind of thing. I think we've also talked about like the Dunning Kruger effects, stuff like that where psychologists and sociologists over time have studied these concepts and we have names for them and we sort of can watch them play out. And Brian, like you were saying, maybe the computer therapist simulator might miss some things.

I think what it would be really good at is this, is hearing someone talking and seeing the actual bias in real time. I don't know how they would then translate that into empathetically helping them move past it or something. But, you know, keeping in the storage unit, every name of every bias we understand and have studied would be handy. please lift up my arm and put it on your shoulder there there there there totally totally okay so i'm going to start i'm going to start you know you two are my clients when i do this kind of thing sure we're getting used to it yep i got the consent forms okay um okay so we're going to start with well first of all i just got a funny story out and it'll bug me if i don't just tell it so last night i had a cool opportunity to um go to a sater

Have you guys ever been to one? I don't know what a Seder is for some reason. Well, I know it's like a half horse, half man or something. What is that? No. Oh, my God. A Seder? I don't get what it is.

A Seder? It's a Jewish, like a meal. Yeah, the Passover. Passover, yes, thank you. Because that started yesterday. It was yesterday. So, yeah, I went to a dinner. I have a friend who's Jewish.

Sorry, I'm just laughing because a Sater has done. now sound like it does right what am I thinking of centaur I was thinking like the SATYR Sater the

oh yeah yeah okay that's probably why I went down a fantasy hole yeah that's a that's a horse's legs but yeah there we go

okay full man body anyway it was such a it was such a cool experience and anyway it was a lot of fun

very fun diverse group people from all sorts and places and a couple from Liberia who were just like losing their minds because they had never even met a Jewish person before. So it was just really cool.

And then there was this young kid from his mung. And so his family were refugees. He was born here. And we just had a great chat. And he did this thing that, like, I don't know if you've had this experience. Maybe you guys have. But he did this thing where it broke my self-identity. Right?

Like, you're, you know, you're just chatting, la-di-da, and he says to me, so there are these things, they're called memes. Do you know what they are? And I was like, what the freak? How old do you think I am? You know? And then I, for a second, I just stared at him, and then so he just started to try to describe a meme to me. Yeah. Wow.

And I was like, okay, take a breath. He is 22. He thinks that you're like just learning about these computer things too. Fresh off the boat. I was like, have you heard of dial-up? Anyway, so he was very cute and you could tell he was like, I said, yeah, no, I know what they are. And you could tell he was just sort of like, okay, well, let me still kind of explain it to you. And I was like, all right.

And it's this moment where you're like, you think I'm 300. Like, you think I'm so old. as I look around the room and there were some very elderly folks there too a couple of people in their 80s and 90s and I was like oh like I think of them as old okay this is good for me

this is good for me right so you have this moment where your sense of identity as you're walking around is a particular thing and you interact with the world and suddenly it's interacting with you differently right and it kind of wakes you up to oh there's a mismatch

so I want to talk about that just a little bit because, I mean, that's like a cute, devastating example. But there are others that I'm going to have you guys kind of fine for me. So I'm going to give you a couple words. We're going to define a couple of things that happen very frequently in human beings. Sure. And then we'll see what comes to your minds. Okay.

So we've talked about cognitive dissonance before. But let's just redefine it. Could either of you give me a definition? This is school now. Of cognitive dissonance. Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh, I don't want to do politics, though.

There's so much of it in there, though. There is. It's all over the place. So just give an example, like what, well, I'll give you a hint. It's the emotion you feel when something happens. Oh, what's happening? Okay. So I'm going to, let's see, let's do.

Oh, gosh. Yeah, I'm not going to be any help on this because I, am I creating cognitive dissonance for you right now? You are creating with me. I've heard the term. And I kind of always assumed I knew what it meant. But now that he, you know, it's just hard to go out with an example. Yeah, it's just hard to do an example. Yeah.

Okay. Dissociating something with something else and cognitive means knowledge, our mind. Right. Your mind. Yeah. And dissonance in music, right? Okay.

I'm going to stop making yourself for, okay. Cognitive dissonance is essentially the emotions you feel when you notice that you're of two minds on an issue. Okay. That's like a very simple way to think about it. You do not feel good. Something feels wrong and off if you're of two minds and you are aware of it. Right. Because one side of the thinking is, I was sure of this.

And on the other side of the same exact moment, you're like, I am very unsure of this. That's an uncomfortable precarious space, right? So, yeah. So when you say one thing and you do another, that's another example. Yeah, I'll be there and I'll pick up your kid and I'll help you with this. And then you don't do any of that. Oh, I got one. I found, I got one.

Okay. When I sit down and I eat, I don't know, big nasty hamburger from Burger King, I both know that this is bad for me and that I'm enjoying it. Do you know what I mean? I don't like that. I feel uncomfortable in that position because to me it's like, ooh, this is good, but I know it's not good. So that's a form of that, right?

Yes. So it's kind of the resulting feeling that cognitive dissonance gives you. It's the discord between the two parts of you that are occurring. And usually they create some, they're hypocritical in some way, or they're just so polar or unpredictably. So, for example, like a human needs to feel that they can predict their own behavior. Right. And so what you have to do when you feel that is you have to somehow rewrite your own history

or do something so that you can be dependable to yourself, right? Right. So if you think of like, what is something you like really hold dear that is like, I am this kind of person. And then an experience comes up and there's some evidence to the contrary, right? That is the feeling. So I always help those that are in need, but, you know, here's a panhandler in front of me and I am not helping them.

There is a disconnect. There's the dissonance. It occurs, right? But I have to somehow get to consistency. So think of my options. What can I do to get consistent? Hmm. All right, let's use your example.

You're somebody who's always charitable and helpful. When you see someone in need, you help them. You think you are. You think you are. You identify as such, right? I mean, you either have to change who you think you are and adjust it slightly and say, well, I'm, I want people to get the help that they need, but I don't want to just give them money that might not go to.

to serve them long term, you know, so you could change your, you know, who you think you are, or you can say, nope, if I'm going to be, if I'm going to say I'm this type of person, then I need to just give this person $5 when I, when I come across them. I got one. And this, this throws Kim under the bus a little, so apologies to her. She'll never hear this. But, you know, she, I don't know if she'd care if I'd say this or not. But we right around, right after 9-11, we had a really interesting experience.

Kim is like a doesn't care who you are, where you come from, what your color is. gender doesn't care she just wants to she's usually just there to help like can I help that's first thing out of Kim's mouth and after 9-11 we were in the car one day and a car pulled up next to us that was four people in the car and they were all Middle Eastern descent of some sort or another and this is again right after 9-11 and she looked at the car and she looked at me and she goes I hate this I said what do you hate she says I hate how uncomfortable I am looking at those guys and knowing that it's just because of this thing that happened like a two weeks ago or whatever she goes I hate that that is even a thing because I don't

really I don't know them at all I don't know a thing about them and I now I've now I've been either coaxed into associating the two by meet by the media or by the coverage or whatever um you know and some people turn that straight into violent horrible things but in her case it was just this feeling of like I know that they're fine And I know that this is a weird feeling I shouldn't have, but here I am having it. Like she was just admitting to me. It's like, I feel that way. And I hate feeling this way.

So tie that to what Brian said. So Brian's like, there's two options. One is to change the way you perceive yourself. Actually, what you used was rationalization. Well, I help people in this particular way. And that's going to make that feeling die down, right? Or you go help the person keep it consistent. And then there's a third option, which Scott is.

kind of alluding to, I mean, Kim, in her case, you just said it out loud and talked about it with you, which is probably a good, safe version. And then another version would be to now blame the person, right? So to then see the person panhandling as the enemy, like, create them as the bad guy so that you don't have to feel that way. Right. You start saying things like, oh, it's the drugs they take or it's the, they're homeless for a reason. Everyone else's fault. Right. So you are suddenly, you're just going to spend on drugs. Yeah. You're still the good guy. And it's, It's this person who, you know, threw off kilter, and so you fixed it by doing some of this self-deception, switching how you think about things, justification, sometimes doubling

down, telling a made-up story so that you can feel better, right? Right. So this is so universal. We all do it because this state of cognitive dissonance is really uncomfortable, and it gives us a lot of things. One, it lets us go on with our day and feel productive and still like ourselves. self, right? And so it has, there's a purpose to it, but there's a high price to it as well. So the other bias, or the bias I want to kind of focus on. So first I wanted to establish the

cognitive dissonance thing. But the bias that shows up and is kind of, you know, the focus here a little bit. And I can tell you some cool studies is the consistency bias. So the false thing we believe or think is true is this. You know how your opinions have changed over time. And I'm ask you guys a question about that in a second. But the truth is, unless we keep tabs or like a journal that says, this is what I believe in. Then we compare it 10 years later or whatever. The way we feel now is not the way we've always felt, but we assume that, which is interesting. Right. So I'm going to have you guys do this. I want you both imagine yourself in high school. Okay. Done. I need paint splattered sweatpants on you, Scott, Brian. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what you did, Brian, but full embarrassment.

a member's only jacket and I think I was the last member. Exactly. I said on friends, yeah. Okay, so pick up, picture, sorry, picture yourself in high school and think about the kind of person you were. Okay. Okay. Now, give me the feeling that brings.

What does it, what do you feel when you think about you, that kind of person you were in high school? Kind of person versus what? Like, just, just the kind, just how do I feel? about the kind of person I was? Yeah. Or just what kind of person were you? Someone who thinks they know it all.

For sure. You know it all. I figured out. For me, it was, I felt like I was like this rebellious soul who, because you brought up those sweatpants, but you're not wrong to use them because when I was, so a little story behind that.

Wendy probably thought I was insane then and still now because she brought it up. But back then, I thought it was cool if I went and bought a pair of blank sweatpants, okay, think 80s. gray stupid looking sweatpants and then I took him home or maybe even did it at school but I by spattered all kinds of colored paint all over it just kind of spattered it so it looked like basically micro version of the wonder bread bag the best way I can explain it it was those colors

it was those colors and I thought that was so edgy and cool and I wore those to school I also painted I bought shoes at Pales and then painted them the colors I wanted and then I wore those and it's just like acrylic paints it's like chipping off and it's super stupid but i just thought that made me wandering around there with my dumb mullet just like oh yeah no one's no one's like me look how unique i am my grades are bad you know why because i don't live by your standards i'm up here well you're i did a lot of that thinking sure so that's how it feels when it reminds me of that i think i was kind of a dork and i didn't know it right also do you think any no not exactly those things, but how do you think of yourself now? What kind of person are you now? You like everybody else?

Well, that's interesting. I don't know if I have a really good picture of myself these days. I think I don't think, hmm. Well, my young friend thinks you're 4,000 years old. Who does? Who thinks? From last night. Who said that? My young friend who, no, just that you're The ones who have to explain memes. I think of myself as less, I'm less naive now than I used to be. And so I think of myself as a whole. I just stop and said, well, how would you describe yourself? I would say, in a lot of ways, I still love all the things I was into when I was younger,

but I'm just less naive about the realities of the world. and maybe even a little, maybe a little too far that way. I'm a little grumpy about it. Yeah. So. Rumpio men, they don't come out of nowhere. No, they don't. They come out of real grumpy reasons.

Turns out. Well, okay. And so the reason to have you jump the whole continuum of time is that what the consistency bias would tell us is that how you assume you feel now or even about how you think you felt now. might be inaccurate, right? And that's tricky because we have such a need to have our self-image be stable, right? This is why we get in so much trouble when self-image is messed with or identity is messed with.

The impacts and the symptoms that come from that are pretty big. So here is one of our internal stabilization mechanisms. It's we have cognitive dissonance. We have all these tools that happen without us even thinking to get us back to consistency. and then we believe that consistency. So, for example, this is a psychologist from 1910 said this. Kind of this really quick, kind of this idea that if our self-image gets threatened in any way, we have to quickly affirm that identity somehow, reaffirm it somehow.

So it's both needing to be consistent, but of course we all know it changes over time. But we are not great at seeing that within ourselves, right? We can watch someone else and go, oh, yeah, let's see the, right. Look at all that change. It's just very different when we're in our own skin doing it. So anyway, this is what William James in 1910 said for any individual, as many different social selves as there are distinct groups of persons about whose opinion he cares, meaning you are like a little prism and every new person you turn slightly and present

a different version reflecting back a different version of yourself. And we don't think we're doing that at all. we just think we're being ourselves now some of sometimes we are aware of that right so somebody is in a social situation and they're like i am fully faking this and ask them how they feel about that that's exhausting it's acting right um it doesn't feel good you don't you know there is a cognitive dissonance experience or a discomfort when it comes to not being yourself right oh yeah so we're all doing it and fighting it all at once okay so let me tell you this well first of all any questions before No, I like where we're going.

Yeah, go for it. Okay. So, Hazel Marcus was a researcher at Stanford University and did this really fun. Oh, I do have one question. Sorry, one question. One quick question. William James? Did he ever go?

Do you think, and whether it's just his friends, they called him Bill Jimmy ever? Do you think that ever happened? Anyway, go ahead. Continue. That wasn't an important question. It was just a question, not an important. Just get it off your chest, so you didn't niggle at the back of your head. That's right.

Okay. that's right so uh she published this paper in 1986 again when scott was in high school this is always very important to time the world to scott's high school yeah please make me make me the center pivot point for all things sorry about that okay anyway she published this paper uh showing how malleable the self actually is and how oblivious we are to the changes that happen so she 1965 starts the research collecting political opinions from a group of high school seniors and their parents. Okay. So I think 1965. Long time ago. And then came back in 1973 and then again in 1982 to see if any of their opinions had changed.

Okay. So the questions range from, you know, legalization of drugs to the rights of prisoners, to the war. You know, you think of kind of things in the in the zeitgeist at the moment there, right? And as you expect, the younger people's attitudes changed a lot more than their parents did because young attitudes are more. But malleable, right? They can be persuaded.

There's new information. They're not stuck. Right. And he showed how they would change over time and, like, the parents, not so much. And then what happened was basically this, what I find is the most interesting question sometimes in these psychological studies is like, what did you think you said in 1972, right? And I always laugh, like, they have the data, you know, but anyway. So they asked them, like, do you think you've changed your mind or, you know, whatever? What do you think you used to believe?

And then so they could measure how much they've changed over time. And then their perceptions are checking on this consistency bias, right? Right. What we found is that only 30% could recall their old answers. Oh, weird. 30%'s low. It's really low. So three of 10 people could remember they were against the war.

like that's crazy. Wow. That's such a huge thing. Right. I mean, I don't know that specificly that one. Yeah. When Scott was talking about, you know, what he was like in high school, for me, I'm saying, God, I feel like I was pretty much the same person I am now as I was in high school. And I'm sure if I were to, yeah, totally. I'm sure if you were to ask me a set of questions, well, how do you feel about the war? How do you feel about this? How do you feel about that? I'm like, I hate the jocks because they always make fun of me. My member's only jacket. I mean, can you blame them, though? Can you blame them? I mean, that thing was... I want to see pictures. Pictures or it didn't happen? I mean, pockets, that's all we've ever wanted.

Okay. So hold on. So here's this example specifically that they give as... So if somebody believed the death penalty was a legitimate punishment as an older, you know, decades later, they thought they had always believed this, even when, like, they had written they were against it as in the first survey, right? So it's, those are big. That's not like, do you still like French fries?

You know, it's, it's, I, I think of the world in a particular way or I think this is how justice is given or, you know, whatever those things are. And anyway, so I thought that was a really cool study. And then there was, there's another study that was done by different people later in 1998. And they did the same thing with relationships. And this is so clear to me from a marriage count. counseling perspective, is that, and I think I've said this before, but when people come in, you know, we have about it, you know, talk about artificial intelligence at this point.

It's so predictable. It's like AI. How a couple answers the question about their initial relationship, how they met and fell in love and that kind of why they decided to get together. If they have already rewritten that story to being a terrible thing, you can predict divorce with 94% accuracy. seven years. Oh my gosh, wow. And that's because they have changed the history to be consistent with the present. But when I see a couple who is saying their eyes twinkle again,

and they're like, it was amazing, I can't believe it's gotten so bad. They have a grasp of the good part because honestly, no one got together because they hated each other 14 years ago. It doesn't make any sense. But that rewriting of the story is incredibly powerful. And so here's some of the stats from this thing. They did a similar thing with recall. these relationships. They had all the answers from the original and then asked them later to come back. And here's what they found. 78% of the women and 87% of the men inaccurately recalled how they used to feel.

It's so high. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I'm shocked by that. Most of the people had a good recollection of their original feelings if they were still in a good relationship. Right? Yeah.

But when it, the consistency bias really alters your memories to make it, you know, like maybe it started out pretty rough, actually. And then it's gotten better. And so same thing. Consistency bias would change that story too. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Okay. So there, so why I mean, this is interesting. I think of course it's interesting is because we're all just walking around doing this. And then what is it, what does it mean? And what does it mean to know it? Right. Right. So for example, the next time you have a. uncomfortable experience and you're of two minds about something or you're confronted with something and you find that maybe you're suddenly mad at a thing for no reason that doesn't make sense. It might be that your whole mental system is trying to create consistency. And that's why, you know, when we think about persuading someone else to understand where you're coming from, Why is this so hard? And there's a good reason is people don't see themselves the way you might be seeing them because they don't agree with you, right? They're seeing themselves as a good person, even though what you're saying is you believe in that.

That makes you a terrible person. And the person's like, no, I'm a good person. And so they're not going to hear that or hear that. So there's a bunch of other studies about trying to persuade people, of course. You know, some of these are older. I like them because they're older. I feel like new ones are sometimes like, I mean, they're usually recreating a lot of the same stuff, but this one's from 1972. So it's old.

Sure. And they asked, this was interesting, they asked about segregated, racially segregated busing, right? Because think of 1972. Oh, yeah. It was when the Civil Rights Act was signed, you know. So we're still in the thick of some of this. Sure. Anyway.

And then so what happened was they asked how they felt about it. then they recorded their answers and then a few weeks then had a discussion about the issue right and then a few weeks later an actor came and tried to persuade them one way or the other so it just depended on how they answered the first

set of questions not a famous actor that's too easy probably not closing yeah right that'd be funny right Jimmy Stewart shows up and goes yeah keep those black kids at the back of the bus right he's not going to do that

yeah that's not not famous just people faking it right And so, and what they found is if they were anti-integration, then the actor just pointed out the harm that gets caused by being anti-integration. And if they were pro, they'd talk about the downsides, right? Just flip the switch versus the script for whoever they were talking about and trying to convince them, right? Yeah. Okay. And so, as in the other studies that I talked about, they, when they were asked their opinions from the original questionnaire, nobody got it right.

they, when they had been swayed, they thought they had always had that same position. So that means anything any of us have ever learned or changed on, there is this tendency for us to think we haven't changed that we are consistent this whole time, which is bizarre. Isn't that it's a survivally thing, though, where our sense of self, we can't mess with that too much or else we think we're crazy or something, right? Well, yeah, yeah, you start to feel that inconsistency is dangerous. right? Like it has a, there's a whole inner system that tells you you're not okay. So you either have to, I don't know, take a drug to not feel it, or you have strategies that your brain will do

in order to feel okay. So this leads to this other thing of just, you can prime yourself for certain behavior because you, we already know the consistency bias will naturally want you to be consistent. So later studies, MIT, Harvard Business School, they did this like, you know, there's a test, here's, you know, $10 if you do the thing or whatever, but they prime them very differently. One had, one group read, yeah, had to list the 10 books they read in high school. So they're just like, eh, grapes and we're off. You know, they've wrote the 10 books. And then the other group, and it's an honesty test, by the way. The whole thing was like, if you win the lottery and get money or whatever, but you'd have to be honest in order to get the

money. So anyway, so they prime them with, here's your high school list. And then the other group was primed with writing down the Ten Commandments. Oh, wow. So they just wrote, do not lie in some form or thinking about that deception, right? Yeah. And any guesses what happens? If you're primed. I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know either. Yeah. I don't know. So what it is, if the consistency bias has to be true, you were just primed to say being honest is important. Right. You're going to be honest.

So they had the cheating numbers are fascinating. The cheating numbers were, let me see if I can find this. So half were primed for Odyssey, the other half, not nothing, right? They weren't primed for anything except to think about their dumb high school books. And so then, oh, no, where to go? I will find it. But basically it was like 0% of people who were primed for honesty cheated. Zero.

Yeah. Wow. And then the other was a sum number that I can't seem to find. Anyway, 33% higher than, okay, there we go. Yeah, so the cheaters, 33% of the other group, the high school book group, yeah. Wow. Wow. And then the other ones?

Why are we doing this like as a rule that in school? Yeah. It's crime you every time. Well, we can't use the Ten Commandments. But you could do things like, you know, you, I mean, we've all done this kind of naturally. Maybe with a kid, we're like, so it's. Excuse me. What does covet mean? You're like, so are you, I'm so glad you're such an honest little boy. So do you want to tell me what happened?

I mean, think of it. That's priming right there. Yeah, that's priming. And I mean, I'm not giving these, this to have anyone be evil. Okay. No, it's both, but it's both negative. You've talked about labels before on here. And it feels like a bit of that. You know, when your mother says, oh, he's my quiet one. Well, what you're doing is, yeah, you're priming. And they're reinforcing. Right. That is really, that's a really good connection because, you know, or the smart kid, right? Yeah. I recently had a conversation with a client whose kid is clearly very, very bright and needs probably testing and help because it's not going to go well in a regular class. And so, you know, she's like, well, is he a genius?

I'm like, we got to stop using the word. Yeah, that's the word sucks. We need to start using the word like he learns quickly. That's it. That's all that happens. Right. Exactly. Because what happens is if a genius can't do a math problem, what do they do with that inconsistency internally? And this is where a lot of that inner critic stuff can come from, too, that we get, there's some beating up that sometimes goes on internally when we are inconsistent. So I am, I see myself as I'm supposed to be a productive member of society. I wasted all day doing a puzzle or playing a video game. I'm a terrible person, right? So. Sometimes it can show up in those really self-flagellating ways that are also... You're conditioning yourself, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. So maybe we just hack it a little, like, you know, tell our kids to be honest and then they're honest. Yeah, I don't know. It's just fascinating. And I'm watching this play out in a lot of places and think, okay, is it dangerous to know this before you go in a situation? Or is it better to know it generally so you can stop and work with the feelings?

of that, of that, uh, bifurcation rather than, I don't know, just kind of blindly going out. Because you can see where the price would be, have to be paid in relationships, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is interesting. I was just thinking, it's a funny to do this today. Because yesterday we had both babies over. He had the four year old. And we have Phoebe here. And she's what, 26 weeks old. She's not even half a year. Or she's almost there. Anyway, they're here. And I, and I cannot help but notice the differences between when he was her age and her the way that she looks at you or interacts with other adults like it's just different like you would expect kids are different and you feel that feeling of wanting to now

put labels and and ticks on it on it all to go well do you think she'll be as energetic as him is did he stare in your eyes as intently as she did like small stuff things they don't even know we're talking about but I started to hear myself building labels or building categories that I'm that I'm now consciously or subconsciously pushing them into. Like, oh, he's the energetic one that, you know, is this and this and this. And then, but Phoebe so far seems like she's got all this together and she's never thrown up yet. But he's barfed all the time. What's that mean?

You know, like I'm starting to build this stuff. He's got it all together. And I realize, and that's just a tiny little thing. But I realized even then and now listening to you, what I was doing is what we all do. we start to we start to construct it so it fits our version of whatever we need it to be to best fit our future to best fit our view of life you know yeah because turns out i'm old i might not know what a meme is i needed someone to remind me right you're like what's a me what's a what's a what's a may may you were asking yeah that's what my mom

called them meemies call a mimis yes did you get my memi that i sent i do no this maybe speaks to part of what you're saying on a different on the other side but i take pride when some young person doesn't matter who will approach me thinking i'm not going to know any of this stuff because i'm an old guy and then see me and they want to you know show me something that's very gen z centric internet something and i immediately know what it is and like it happens with gaming a lot when those this this kid from um uh ukraine was here and we were trying to get stuff together to get them Christmas stuff and they were, you know, barely making it and whatever, these refugees. The son was

a hardcore gamer before he left the country. And when he, I said, so you're a gamer and he looks at me like, and I could see the look. It was like, oh, great. He's going to ask me about fort. Do you play the fortnight? You know, or something?

And instead, I was like, oh, yeah, I started rattling off all this stuff. And he's just, his mind is blown. And then he's like, wait, you know, Miss Christmas? Sometimes how Metzen came up. You know Chris Metzen? And oh, yeah, we did interviews and this and that and had them on stage once and, oh, my gosh, this is crazy news. I'm here. But anyway, it was so much fun for me to have a moment where I could like subvert those expectations.

Yeah. But I have cognitive dissonance about it. Was it a genuine connection that I was making with somebody on common ground? Or is it me going, I'm not as old as you think I am. I'm way cooler than you thought, aren't I? Like that, right? That's probably more what it was. Yes. The perfect example is when this kid's like, do you know what a meme is?

I want to say, I'm on a podcast. Right. Yeah. It's not. It's stupid. But what you're saying is like, and Scott, you could actually like hang. So that's a little different. But that is consistency with like who I think I am, right?

That's really important that sometimes we will distort. I mean, this is a very non-threatening example, right? but we will distort things in order to feel that consistency. And that if we're all running around doing that, then put us in couples and families and school boards together. Right? It's an interesting explanation for, you know, obviously it's very one tiny piece and it's,

there's no way this is the cause of all the things. But it is, it's kind of fascinating to think through this lens a little bit and just notice myself. So, for example, I consider myself somebody who I give money to anybody who is walking by and needs it, right? Like that's who I see myself as and I don't care what they spend it on or judge it. I just, but I can't tell you, I mean, every time my brain goes,

um, should you know about the resources in this community. Maybe you should ask them if, you know, like I'm also a social worker. So I have to figure out what I'm going to do every time. it's stupid and it's because that consistency bias requires me to navigate it over and over again because who I see myself as and in that moment I'm too busy or I'm in a rush it doesn't work every time right well can you can you then lean into it and say so there's my question to you is a positive way knowing what we know about this is a positive way of dealing with that is to say yeah I'm giving him five bucks regardless but now I'm also going to make a note

to call later and just see what the local programs are and like get more. You know what I'm saying? Can you do both is what I'm saying? I have a few brochures in your car so you can say, yeah, let me help you out. But, you know, have you checked this place out? Yeah, or something, whatever it is. So my friend does these little kits and we do them every year and they are, it's a bag. It reminds me of a Kim thing.

A baggie with like a granola bar and some money and a bus ticket and information for like local resources. Sure. And so you just have them in your car. Just hand them out. And since your cars are like refrigerators in this state for a long time, it's never a problem. Yeah, you're still, you're going to have, you're going to have raw meat in there or whatever. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, there's just that movie about the kid poisoning his Uber water came out.

Now I just hand those bottles out to the people on the streets experiencing homelessness that I pull up to waiting at the left turn lanes. They don't care. They didn't watch Spree. They're going to drink that water. They're fine with them. Oh, they don't care. No one, yeah, none of them saw Spree. And none of them should, honestly.

Don't watch Spree. Don't, Wendy, you don't even know what this movie is, but don't watch it. No, and you're horrifying me. Yeah, that's bad. I'll say this, though, like, okay, if you have your cars loaded with little homeless packs, and when you see someone who needs it, you give it to them. And that feels good. It's like, I did a nice thing today.

Right. Kim has, Kim's even separated them by female and male ones. So she's got, like, you know, feminine product stuff and the one that you, you know. That's so great. And then the other one, she's got, I don't know what man stuff, but it's mostly, you know, granola bars and cologne. I don't know what's in there. But anyway, it's, it's, it's, yeah, old spice.

So she's got these separated like that. She gives them out all day. And the general feeling is we feel better having done that. Like, we have done a thing that seemed like it was helpful and we, and it's what we can do. And so that's my question. Do we sometimes do these things for, because you question yourself, am I doing this because I want people to know I did it?

Am I doing it just because I really want to help that person? Like, where's my motivation and all this? But also, isn't it sometimes just I need to make a dent and I don't have any other control to make a dent? But here's one where I can make a dent. And this is like politics or anything else that's so large and so out of our hands that it feels like, well, what's the point then? And sometimes people feel like, oh, well, I'm motivated to get on social media and bark a bunch of stuff out that. causes a bunch of people to yell at each other or whatever, but it's not really doing anything.

So I feel like I need to do something. So then you pull back your view and you go, okay, well, I can do something right here. Right now I can give this guy a bag and it has cool stuff in it. And maybe, maybe just maybe this will be a thing he'll remember. And one day down the road, he'll look at it or look back and go, oh, that one time they really saved me that week. I really need to clean things up, but, but, but that's a lot of pressure.

But that's what I'm saying. That's the feeling of like no, I have no power. to do anything to fix a certain thing, but I can do this. And be consistent with what you perceive it of yourself. Right. Right. Like there's somebody else who's passing by,

and this is not even taking one molecule of their brain power. They're not thinking. They have a story already. Well, this person deserves it. The world, you get what you deserve in this world. And that's that. Right. And I mean, we could do a whole hour on,

the bad world syndrome versus, I mean, there's a couple of dichotomies and people, we can test this and see kind of how you score on, like, is the world fair? Is it not fair? Like how you perceive things and your belief about how it overall functions has a lot to do with how you then respond. So what I find so interesting is tying that end piece to say you're 40 years old, how you got there is interesting because you're going to be wrong about how you think you got there. Like, that's what my takeaway here is like, you know, it's important for us to feel consistent.

It's also important for us to maybe learn how to manage our cognitive dissonance in some different ways. Like, learn to be a little uncomfortable. I mean, let's not take the handing food out to the homeless, but take something else where you're, you know, you're getting feedback, right? That you did not do something consistent. And like, if you can bash that person, you. And this is where I think sometimes our internet behavior shows that, like, it's just really satisfying to be venom backwards, back at, you know? Like, that's an exact way to handle cognitive dissonance. It's like, I can't actually hear the feedback.

It is not consistent with who I am. Like, do you think trolls are walking around like, you know, I'm a troll. And some do, okay? But those are ones that are. Well, they know how, but they know where their money. You follow the money with those guys. If they're making a lot of money being jerks, you know, you know the answer. who you are like, oh, you're a troll.

And they're like, what? I'm like a normal person with an opinion. Yeah. And you're like, okay. And that's because we can, you know, again, we're fighting for. Yeah. Okay. So thanks for letting me randomly experiment with the concept.

But I just thought this was funny. Yeah, no, it's great. It's good. We still don't know what you're supposed to be reminded about, though. I don't either. So if anyone re listens, tell us. Yeah, somebody. I'll find it.

Maybe it'll come back to me. Someone out there will do it. They'll do the work. They'll dig through the file and they'll see it. And they'll go, oh. It was at the beginning, the very beginning. Yeah, because we were choosing. You said, do you want to talk about mushrooms?

You want to talk about blank, right? Was that the week before? Yeah, yeah. So help me out anybody. Or send an email. Oh, that's not a dear presence. Speaking of which, I'm not going to recommend it on our recommendals Wednesday thing, but Wendy got me just talking about the whole microdose mushroom thing.

I forgot the word, but anyway, these things. I went and watched a Netflix documentary called. Oh, what's the name? I wrote it down. Oh, yeah, you told me. I can't find it. Something. You told me also.

Mysterious mushrooms or something. Part of it, I was worried. I went into it thinking, this can be like propaganda for like, she said you mushrooms. Fantastic fungi. That's it. It was really interesting.

I really got a lot out of it. And what I didn't know is there's a famous dude who is famous for his work in mitochondria. and all sorts of mushroom-related stuff. And his name is Paul Stammitts. And if that name sounds familiar to Star Trek fans, that's the name they gave the mushroom expert on the Discovery, the exact same name.

And I didn't know that until I watched this documentary. But anyway, it was really interesting, and I got a lot out of it. And they talked a lot about the stuff you went over it last week. So if anyone's interested in checking that out, Netflix has it right now. And it's called Fantastic Funding Guy. Okay.

Now, I also did have a thing I need to plug real quick. So I sent you a link to put it somewhere, scant for me. Okay. So, you know, people, it's this time of year. My kid wants to raise money. I'm not doing that ever again. That was terrible.

And sorry. Anyway, but I have a new one. All right. That really is so cool. So I'm on a board of the girls on the run, which if you are not familiar with, go Google it right now. It is the coolest program. It's for third to fifth grade girls.

They go in the schools. It's after school program. And these girls train for a 5K. but that's not the whole point. That's like a part of it. But is they learn all these life skills and communication stuff. And it is just fabulous. And it's the age right before their self-esteem drops through the floor, right?

It's the age where friendships started getting way more complicated. Anyway, they just do such good work and all of it's so tested and validated and it's awesome. And my good friend runs the girls on the run here. And so I've joined the board and doing fundraising for them. And I said, what can I have my podcast people help me with? So she made, she showed me how to make my own little link. If you feel the need to help young girls. Look at you.

You got links. You learned what a meme is. I made a little website. I need a picture, but I can't find one. Anyway, I don't have any pictures of three to three to fifth grade girls. Anyway, it's just really cool stuff. And we have this big fundraising luncheon. In fact, Carter has donated arts to it. Scott, I need to follow up on what I'm going to have you donate.

Yeah, I can do stuff. whatever. Well, we should talk about what would be best, but yes, I'm in. So I just thought I, you know, it would, so it would show up at the auction at the fundraising luncheon thing. It would be like Therapy Thursdays, friends, you know, donated this amount. We'll just like, I don't know, take a group shot from the chat or something. I don't know. Anyway, but it's just such a, such a cool program. If any of you have daughters in that age range, I would ask at your schools if they have it. If not, you can get it. I mean, it's all volunteer coaching usually. And the best part is the 5K is like so emotional watching some of these kids who you would think could never think they could accomplish this thing.

And they're surrounded by like they all are paired with an adult volunteer runner and everyone's got like glitter and two twos. And it is so fun. It's like this huge party. And these girls run a 5K learning all sorts of amazing skills. and like it's just so fun so if if you can give a buck awesome if you can volunteer for them in your community you should do it because it will make you believe in the world oh it's awesome all right once again it's uh here it is girls on the run dot org uh is where you can find out all about the Minnesota one is obviously specific to the one I'm working with so it's a G-O-T-R-M-N but you have the link

to the little fundraiser thingy that I do did you put where did you send that did you send it to the two-year individual frog pants email here no discord discord oh why am i not seeing it that's weird oh there it is okay i got it oh and there's even um look at me there's even there's even the i know what a me is we're not going to know what to do with me i know right oh my gosh the QR code what the frick this is amazing i can't believe how far i've come you're like a you're like a tgi friday's during covid the menus and stuff it's amazing um all right well this is fantastic as always and talking to you is always great. Don't forget, Wendy, you'll be in Vegas for a lot of you to see her. Very excited about that. And that's coming up in just a few weeks, a couple weeks, really,

two and a half, something like that. It's very close. Wendy, we look forward, though, to having you on next week right here on the show. Until then, have a great time. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye now. See ya. That was a good one. Although it sounded like she was crumpling up some. I know, like she wadded up her phone at the end of the call to throw out the trash. Yep. Memes, sound effects. Boy, She's an internet wizard these days. She's figured everything out. Yeah.

That's awesome. All right. There she goes. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. That's what we're going to do. It's Thursday. So here's what that means.

Core at 5 o'clock. Coverville today? Yeah. No, no cover real today. I did it yesterday because I'm going to be working on my breaks today and trying to get out to lift. Yesterday I was like, well, I better not drive because I've got a cracked break pad. But so I did Coverville yesterday. Here's what's great about it.

It's a podcast. You can go and live. listen to it and you should because it's the music of Vangelis so yeah cover of the Blade Runner theme cover of Chariots of Fire it's also got Pharrell Williams so

you're probably going to be very happy about that and the eels if you've forgotten about who the eels were Nova Cain for the soul big MTV hit back in the 90s and oh so good Is Farrell Williams still he's still doing the hat and stuff right that's still his

No, I don't think he is. I found newer pictures of him because I always put a little photo on the thing. And the newer pictures don't have a, he's got no hat. Oh, crazy. All these changes, man. The weekend got rid of his weird jawbone implant things. I know that was just for, that was just for show at the time. Yeah, okay.

He was trying to make a point or whatever. But, oh, do you have any desire? He's got a new show coming out on HBO called. Yes, I can't wait to watch that. That looks interesting. I need to watch the, um, Was it the Rolling Stones interview with David? No, it was Bono and Edge with David Letterman.

I still need to watch that one. I need to watch the Bruce Springsteen and Howard Stern thing. I mean, I'm so far behind. You're behind. You got all that muse now. You've got to get some other, some of your old shit back in your brain. I did put on a playlist of muse videos because I've never seen any of them. I was like, oh, these guys make some, they work with some great directors to make some kick-ass videos.

Or the big robot heads or the devil thing? Is that a part of their video? It hasn't come up yet, but I'm sure that it has in some of their newer videos. Because I miss bands with mascots like Eddie the Beast and, you know, I love that stuff. That big dude on the cover of Queens News of the World, that giant robot that's holding a bloody Freddie Mercury. Yeah, he's got the blood finger because he dipped in his chest or whatever. That's stuck with me for most of my childhood, just the picture of that. I used to think that was so freaky.

Yeah, exactly. I know. I do want a 3D print. I want to find a 3D print model of that dude with a little, you know, a little bloody Freddie Mercury. It's got to be, sad robot. Got to exist, right? Somebody's made it. Yeah, somebody's made it.

Somebody, if they haven't, they will now. The dog, the cat's out of the bag. I don't know where the dog's out of it, but the cat's out of the bag. Well, anyway. That's already up, so go get it. Tonight, Core at 5 p.m. lots to talk about there. We just found out what Greg Street's doing after retiring from Riot, and it sounds really, really exciting. So that'll be a part of the discussion.

Yeah. I also played a rad game. I can't wait to talk about. So if you want to hear all that, that's tonight at 5 p.m. Mountain Time at frogpants.tv. And, of course, afterwards on the podcast. If you would like to join us on Patreon,

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Oh, other great monthly benefits. And tomorrow we're doing couch party. I don't know what we're watching. Yeah, I don't either. We haven't really talked about it. We'll think of something. We'll think of something. If nothing else, than a Doom Patrol.

Yeah, well, we always have that to fall on. That's always a fallback, but I'd like to, you know, I'm sure there's some fun new thing that we could check out. Yeah, we'll mix it up. The problem with Nope is we're about to, I think we're going to film sack that soon. I think we're going to film sack Nope. Yeah, Nope's going to get sacked. So that's what we have to do.

We have tried to pick stuff like TV or if it's a movie one that we're probably not going to sack, although I kind of, I don't regret it, but that I really liked that Pedro Prescal thing. Yeah. Cy-fi movie. What was that called? Prospect. Prospect. I don't, I feel like that was better for a couch party because there was so little dialogue. you would have had an impossible time trying to get good audio clips for it for film sac.

Yeah, same with those. It worked really well for us to talk about. Exactly. We will always watch movies we like. Like, we're watching Creed this week. Creed's great. Yeah, yeah. We think there's enough there.

I've never seen it. Brian, you're so excited. Yeah. Although he doesn't get the cool Creed mustache till the third one, which always reminds me that it always makes me think, oh, right, this is Creed when he was growing up. No, this is Creed's son. It's got nothing to do with the original Creed. But this mustache he's got in the new one? Yeah, it throws me, man.

Really? Yeah, it feels like it's a 70s or something. I know, it's weird. And once again, haven't even seen the movie yet, but I think I've already got my idea of what my opening is going to be. Yeah, I hope it's a creed song. That's all I hope. It is not.

It is, if I go the direction I'm going right now, it's not even going to be a film sack karaoke. So it'll be a spoken thing. Well, then be very ready, everyone for FilmSack this weekend. Be ready. Lots of other stuff going on. Just check out the channel. and the notifications and the whatnot, so you'll be informed.

Everything else is at frogpants.com slash TMS, except for this song that we're about to announce, and then after the show, it'll be there. So you can go find out about it. But right now, Brian's going to introduce it, so Brian do that. And one more thing, guess the connection tomorrow morning, an hour before a couch party.

That's going to be its regular time. I've got stuff to give away. I've got rogue and Wolverine animated X-Men glasses to give away. Fancy. Little juice cups, juice glasses for you. Nice. So I think that's what's going to be. be tomorrow. All right, let's get to this request. Easy, quick, and painless. Ryan from Michigan

said, it's a fun cover. Play it whenever you have a free day. Today happens to be a free day. So let's play it. This is 5 o'clock world by Bowling for Soup. This is from their 2005 album. Bowling for Soup goes to the movies. Nothing like it. I said it why I said it like that. Bowling for soup goes to the movies. Anyway, this is, of course, originally done by the Vogue's. No, was not originally done by Drew Carey, although you might think so. Here is 5 o'clock world. All right, that's going to do it. We'll see the rest of you.

We don't see this weekend. We'll see you on Monday. Take care. Here's your song. Up every morning just to keep a job. I got to fight my way through the bus. love sounds of the city pounding in my brain while another day goes down the drain but it's a five o'clock world when the whistle blows no one owns a piece of my time

and there's a five o'clock me inside my clothes thinking that the world looks fine yeah Time for the pay I get Living on money that I ain't made yet Gotta get going gotta make my way But I live for the end of the day Yeah, yeah And it's a five o'clock world When the whistle blows

But no one knows a piece of my time And there's the wrong and if you go away, I know To ease my trouble mind, yeah In the shelter of her arms, everything's okay She talks and the world goes slipping away And I hear the reason I can still go on When every other reason is gone In my five o'clock world she waits for me

Nothing else matters at all And every time my baby smiles at me, I know that it's all worth while, yeah. And then, yeah. And a day, yeah. If you like what you just heard, there's a very good chance you will like all the shows on the FrogPants Network. Get more at FrogPants.com. Ridiculous.