The Morning Stream - TMS 2452: Interpolation Automation

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

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Nine days. Nine! You can't see a tempest if it's in a teapot with Tom. Recommendals are not for everyone with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. As for everything else, the Greeks had a word for this mental and physical state of bliss. Adiraxia was the term they chose to use. Check out the Magic Kingdom. The Morning Stream, would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?

Good morning and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for April 12th, 20203. I'm Scott Johnson, and that's Brian Ibbott. Hi, Brian. Hello, you've wandered into my laboratory. Well, you know, look, I came in here. the mission and that mission was to inform everybody

Brian's of course acutely aware of this that nine days from now TMS Vegas is happening all right nine days measly days there's really not much to a nine day stretch it's just a real

quick little you know you're done and then you're gone and then you're there it's actually put nine days but it's actually a little more than that oh is it what is it hold on a second, who put nine days? Because I'm looking, it's 11 days until the, oh, is it? What's saying nine to, who told us, who said nine days in the chat? Come on now. Who did that? Oh, Claire. Claire is in Vegas, uh, in nine days. Oh, my God. So Claire, you're going to be in Vegas for like over a week. Is she there for what? So what? She's there for two extra days tell anyone else gets there? Nine days? Yeah, nine days. Wow. Wow. Yeah, that, listen, I love Vegas. That's too much. I mean, I'm not even kidding.

By the time we get to you, Claire, you're going to be a puddle of, I think I'm done with this. I think I'm done with this place. God, I'm living this place. So, yeah, if you go there for, my rule generally is four is about my limit. Yeah, four is a great target. And when something like this is going on, there's so much stuff to pull you away from those four days. Like, you know, there's going to be times. we're doing stuff where it doesn't matter if we're in Vegas or we're in Snowbird or we're in Utah or we're in Colorado, whatever.

Yeah. But there's a lot of other time that we're going to be doing the Vegas-y things. Yeah, for sure. But that's okay. Vegas, you can get it all cleared out for us and ready, you know, all cleaned up and ready for our arrival. We appreciate you doing that. All right. We're going to do a show today.

We've got a lot to talk about. We got some guests. We got all the fun stuff Wednesdays represent. Yeah, no kidding. We've got three-fourths of, no, we have all four members of film sacked on at various times. Oh, my gosh, think of that. Yeah, we got done away today, right? He didn't have a thing today.

Oh, awesome. He's already in and everything. That's great. He's already in and everything. The dude's prepared, man. He's prepared. That's awesome. Now, I'm going to let you guys know when we do the thing where you guys DM me at that time of the show to be on the, you know, be part of the feud today.

I'm prioritizing someone who keeps trying to get in last week and couldn't get in. That's E and I am sci-fi. So if I am sci-fi, like if he does the DM... If he's one of the first four, he'll automatically get in. He's auto get in, because we had trouble with him

like two weeks in a row. If he doesn't, then all bets are off and it's the fourth person, no matter what. So just know that, you know, as we get closer to the thing.

Real quick, yesterday. So we have this near us in our kind of like community here, this area called Daybreak. There's a store. It's like a grocery store. store, but it's more than that because they're all fancy. They're a little too expensive, like grocery-wise, but they have like some nice amenities. It's a place is called Harman's.

It's a whole chain here. But the Harman's are a little bit special in that they've got really fancy bakeries and they're known for their like artisanal cheese and they just go a little further. They're like trying to break the mold of like just grocery store. They're more than that. And up top, they have a whole floor of places you can go like lounge around. There's food up there. They have cooking classes up there. They have all this stuff. And up there they have this burger place, Brian, where you just go and you say, well, I want

a burger. Here's how I want it done or chicken, whatever you got. They have a fish thing too. And then they cook all that up and then they give it to you and then they have a whole big bar of like add your own stuff to it. So I'd load mine up with like mushrooms and kimchi and all the dumb stuff I like. Of course you do. Yeah.

And we're all over there yesterday having a little date with Phoebe and Van because they have to be there. So me, the baby, the four-year-old, Taylor, and then Carter and Kim, we're all there together. And we're sitting there, and I thought,

boy, it'd be funny to sit this kid down and you know, play with her. So I put her on the table, right? And she has this thing where she stares deeply into your eyes. Like, just like, whoever's holding her.

Sussing you out. Like figuring you out. No matter who it is, If you're there, she'll, like, look in your eyes and she will not break contact. It's kind of disconcerting. It's like, what does she see? You know, we try to wonder what she's seeing in my brain sort of thing. Yeah, yeah. So she's sitting there doing that.

And I'm thinking, wow, what a kid. What an inquisitive little kid. And what will she be like as an adult? And I'm thinking of all these esoteric things. And right as I'm thinking that, you hear the loudest reverberating fart you've ever heard. drilled directly into that table from this kid and it was a little like our buzzer that thing. It was a bit like that.

So whatever you're... And that table probably a little amplifier, right? Big time, big time. I guarantee you everybody around there, even though it's kind of open air and not, you know, it's not quiet or anything, but I guarantee everybody in that place heard that baby fart into that table. And boy, you know, going from look in her eyes,

she sees so much what it what what what doth cross the brain of a young babe you know i'm having all these like highfalutin ideas and then brr into the table as loud as she can hell of a thing hell of an experience uh but i recommend she knows how to reach your heart scott she really does touch grandpa's heart yeah she knows exactly what's up and she never broke by the way never broke glance like sure farted and kept looking didn't even didn't even falter and i think what is is she's starting just starting she's six months old now she's starting to to dabble in the solid food a bit and i think that's just making her fart a lot sure yeah he's saying okay all right we're ready for this we're prepared we're gonna process this might be some after effects don't worry we're gonna

get used to us yeah yeah we're gonna adjust as we need to but yeah exactly it was it was fun though and uh i would recommend if you're local and you're nearer harman's don't don't just think oh i don't need to go in there and grocery shop that stuff upstairs is awesome it's real good It sounds like whole foods, like the, you know, with the restaurant and then the groceries, the expensive groceries and that sort of thing. I would say it's very similar to that in that it's that kind of place, minus the whole like, you know, Amazon let you walk out without checking out because it's all that stuff. I always forget about that too. I'd never even think about that, but I could do that. Yeah.

It's a thing I've yet to do. I've still need to go in and try that. I've done that. I've never done it in an Amazon store, but they're at the, at the. the football stadium in power field or whatever it's going to be called now where the Broncos play there are a couple um drink stores where there's just lines of refrigeration and you scan your card on the way in put it back in your pocket you go you pick something out and you walk out and it's paid for and it's amazing that's such a weird feeling did you the first time you did it

did you kind of slowly do it and go okay yeah yeah it's like how i am with uh we may have talked about this, but Apple Store is like I use the Apple Store app anytime I can. Look, I love you geniuses. I love you guys in your Apple T-shirts that are so willing to help and ready to tell me, you know, but I'm an Apple guy. I know exactly what I want when I walk in there, because if I wonder, if I meander, I'm spending a couple hundred dollars more than I planned on. Yeah, go straight to the source. Oh my God, they have an app connected golf tea. Oh my God, I've got to pick that up even though I don't play golf. Sure.

But no, I go in there. I have the app already out. I grab the thing I need in the case like a cable or something, scan it, hit pay, and then I walk out. And I always feel like, I always feel like I need to like announce as I'm walking out. Bop this, paid for it. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird, right?

Because you want people to know that you're on the up and up and you feel like you're doing a clandestine thing that you're not supposed to be able to do. It's weird. Yeah. Because I don't know, but I just want to assume that it's like Disney and that somewhere underneath the catacombs of the Crossroads Mall, there is an Apple jail, basically. Like there's a completely white, no, I'm sorry, a completely rose gold room or space gray possibly, with no, no features, maybe one button. And I'm going to be stuck in there until I confess. It's like somebody, any time now someone's going to touch his ear, he's going to be undercover.

he'll just expect some dad and then he'll just touch his ear and go go go swarm swarm and they're going to come get you tackled my bunch of goobers in apple t-shirts and uh yeah there's a whole there's probably a whole you know a whole generation of kids maybe it's maybe it's phoebe and man but they're gonna this will be their whole life they'll just walk into stores never know anything else right exactly it'll be the old people going am i in trouble i don't know if i can walk out of here right now exactly now they'll be shopping playing over the loudspeaker will be the new a i created beatles song that everybody loves and they'll be raving about it oh man yeah yeah let's say okay we talked about this pre-show a little bit but if they did that Beatles thing yes which can be done it just straight up can be done okay the tech is there already it's just a matter who does it if you do that who's who do you owe money to like do the Beatles or whoever owns the rights to the Beatles and I suppose if it's new content does that just mean Ringo and Paul are involved I don't know let it see a lot of bands though have done omages to the Beatles, right?

And there's, you know, there's cover bands and stuff. There's a, there's a great band called the Re Beatles Project that does modern songs in the style of the Beatles. So like Christina Aguilera's beautiful

done by, sung by Ringo. Oh, I think we did that, played something here. We played some on the show. Yeah. I don't think they have to pay anything to the Beatles estate.

I think it's, you know, they just have to do their as Cap BMI CSEC, whichever one Christina Aguilera is on and that's it. Right. So if you did something wholly original and you called it the sweat from my brow, that's the name of the song. You do a song called While My Kitar Gently Caresses Maxwell's Fretzaw.

Right. In the raspberry fields, you'd say. Exactly, yes. So you do that. and then now you've just made a thing. Yeah. And that's it. You just made a thing. I think you've just made a thing.

And I feel like will AI, does AI still have to play by the same? Or, you know, does it have to play by any new rules that just a band that does a Beatles-like song? See, that's fascinating to me. That's so fascinating. Because it's a question we haven't had to wrestle with. And I'm guessing, if I had to guess, the industry wants a piece. So they would try to figure out how to legally wrangle a piece, even though you could claim. And they'd have to look at what the AI used as source material and maybe be able to prove that, well, it used this riff from Strawberry Fields Forever.

It used this chord transition from In My Life or something like that. I mean, there's, I don't know. If they train the data specifically on Beatles songs, then maybe they have a case. So let me ask you this. If I, if I, I mean, we obviously, neither of us know. This is all pontification here. Sure, of course. If I, um, I make a Beatles song.

Let me think about that. That won't work because you'd still have to train that data to know what a Beatles song sounded like. See, it's just, Oh, wow. TRPW brings up the ruttles. So Eric Eiddle and Neil Innes, it was this, um, this really cool, uh, parody deal. And it, it, you listen to it and say, yeah, that's, that's, that's,

obviously a parody of the Beatles, but it's not a parody of a specific song. They have a song called Cheese and Onions that sounds like sounds like one of John Lennon's famous meandering, you know, we get to use this again. Every time I think of

something, I think of cheese and onions. You know, it's basically like one of those things. How many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall and all that, BS. Yeah, all you need is cash was the album. That's right. TRPW says, they got in trouble for that. And I'm curious as to

what the grounds were. Because parity is supposed to be covered, right. Parity is absolutely covered in copyright. Maybe it varies in country, because that would have been British stuff. Maybe Paul just didn't like it. I don't like that you're making fun of us. You didn't like what you did there?

So, okay, so here's the other question that you could answer, I think. I don't sound like that. Not at all. That's more of a Ringo thing. All right, let me ask you this. You've dealt with this. Yeah. If I decided to do a cover album of the Beatles, of Beatles songs, I do have to, I've got to pay somebody for that, right? Yeah. Okay.

Oh, for sure. I mean, that's, you know, you're paying, you're paying royalties to the song, right? Whichever, I think their BMI has Beatles. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Okay. So if that's the case, maybe that's all you'd have to do.

You make a new song and you just pay. I think so. Yeah. You'd pay your cover charges and now you're in. And, you know, there's probably, and there's probably a degree. If you can say This sounds like the instruments that the Beatles played But there isn't a melody

There isn't a riff Or anything that is directly lifted from a Beatles song Right Then you're safe, then you're golden Yeah, that makes sense to me I mean this is all we don't know That's why it's fascinating It's all conjecture and

But yeah, how soon before we hear The first AI generated Beatles song And is it going to be better than that the Beatles anthology, Free as a Bird? Is it going to be better than that? Oh, that's a good question. Or will we get the first, will we get the first AI-generated, like, smash-mouth song? You know what I mean? Right, exactly.

Start low on that totem pole where you're not likely... Go easy. Right. About a nickelback. Oh, yeah. We've already created 14 nickel-back songs, and they're just as good as all the other nickel-back songs. That's right, exactly. So you could just work your way up.

tell somebody gets litigious about it and then everything will be fine. Right. Real quick here, the arcade tournament is happening in Vegas and Brian, I understand we have slots available. What's going on there? There are just a few slots available. Now look, people are, I want to address those people out there. We've got a bunch of people

who already signed up. You people, you're set. You're good. You're in. I can't wait to see you and it's going to be a blast. There's a few of you out there, Leslie Logan's mom, that say, man, I'm afraid of doing the video game tournament because I've only ever played Pac-Man or Ms. Pac-Man, and I don't know, I'm going to suck at these games, and I don't want to get, I don't want to do it because it's going to be a blowout. Listen, as someone who did it last year and was ousted in the first round, I'm not even going to make any excuses.

Somebody beat me plain and simple, and I swear to God, I can't remember who it was, but we had such a good time for those two or three minutes playing Gallagher or whatever it was. again, I can't remember. And that became a thing, you know, for the whole rest of the time we were there. It was like, hey, you and I, we played Gallagia. It was fun. It was a good time. And that's the thing. You'll have a blast. If you don't know anybody there, you're coming solo.

Even better reason to jump in and do this. It's on the last night. So it's kind of our big end of TMS Vegas blowout. out. It's your, you know, last chance to hang out with all these people before everybody leaves in the morning. Yep. So sign up, VivaTMSVegas.com, just a few spots left and can't wait. Yeah, that's one of my favorite things last year. I loved it. Yeah, it was such a good time. And it wasn't just because I almost won. It's because we had a great time. I don't, I don't even like my chances this year. I think I'm going to suck. I don't know why. I'm going in prepared to lose in the

first round. And then I'm just going to play video games against other people who've lost who don't have any, you know, any skin in the game. And for those of you watching the video, here is the unlabeled video game cabinet, 3D printed. Yeah. Look at that. A little four holes on the moon.

Solid as a rock. That's right. Put your weed. Yep. Hide your weed in there. Yeah. You could probably smoke. You can use it as a bowl.

Oh, yeah, totally. Don't let your neighbor know. Dave will come get it and steal it. Yeah. You don't want that. So there you all. All right. Very nice.

Hey, guys. You know what else we do here on the show is, We bring Dunaway in and we'd have some fun with him. He's a bit of a toy, really. And we're going to pull him in. We're going to play a little game. It's called The Feud. Why did it select everything?

That was weird. Sorry. I got some weird interface stuff. Anyway, here he is. Let's do it. Here we go. Get excited because Dunaway's back. Hi, Dunaway.

What are you doing? Oh, hi. Scott and Brian. I am back. this Monday. Yeah. It is Monday. How does that feel to you, Mr.

took some time off and went on a road trip or something? What'd you do? You had some fun or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it was fun. Well, actually, the road trip fell through. And so I just did a less celebrate Brian day because I got, I actually returned early. It was about 10 minutes before you guys did the babble.

And I was like, oh, I could just make it. And I'm like, oh, they've already set up something else. And I'll be busing up there, messing up all the plans. I said, you know what? I ain't going to do that. No. I said, you know what I'm going to do instead? I went and got myself some, some, I went to chilies and got me some salmon or salmone. Salomon.

Salmon, yeah. Salmon did that. And then I was like, I was like, well, I'm going to do it the rest of my day. And I said, you know, I'm going to see the Mario movie. So that's what I did. Oh, wow. Wow. You went by yourself to see the Mario more.

I'd love that. Brian Day. So wait, so can you give us just a quick up or down on that movie? Do you like it? Do you like it? Absolutely. It's an illumination film. If you like the minions in those types of movies,

the humor sticks with that kind of stuff. It's what you'd expect if you've seen any of those despicable me in those kind of movies. So, yeah, if you like that humor, you're going to like it. I enjoyed it. I think I'm going to like it. I like all the inside stuff happening like game-wise in there. And I saw it in 3D, Scott, not because I chose it because it was the only one play. It's the only option you have.

stapled glasses to your head and made you watch the 3D. You know, it's not so bad, though, because, as we know, CG 3D is pretty good. Yeah. Oh, for sure. That's the, that's the, right now that's the only time I'm going to see a 3D movie as if it's CG. And I'm not saying every CGI movie I'm going to see is going to be 3D.

But no, no, no. But yeah, if you're going to get, if you're in a place where they're like, well, it's all we have, oh, yeah, I'll deal with it. I can deal with that. Yeah. Well, speaking of dealing with things. I heard the, uh, I ordered what they used to call the kids meal, which is a little tiny box with about a handful of popcorn and some gummy,

some like some little fruity gummy things and a small drink. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How much was that? $100. There is something to be said for that. No, you're like, uh, that is, yeah, because that is just enough popcorn.

You get a candy, right? Or fruit, fruit, uh, yeah, a little fruit, fruity things. The drink, yeah, it's, it's, uh, just stuff. And it's in a little box, which is really nice. Yeah, it's only, it's only, it's only 6450, too. cheaper. And then whenever I, if I, yeah, and if I decide to go back to get a refill on it, which they've never said yes or no on that.

I've never asked, but I always look them right in the eye when I do it. I'm like, uh, yeah, getting some more popcorn because it's got her own dispenser thing right. They're going to, taking, taken, whatever, they make so much freaking money on popcorn. You're fine. Yeah, it was like $6.75 for a little cardboard box in a handful of popcorn and a, you know, like a 25 cent thing of gummy things. and like maybe a dollar's worth of soda so yeah it'll be all right yeah it's all right well uh i think

that's awesome uh and i'm glad that you had some time to yourself really that's what i that's the that's the important that's the important i watch i watched i watched i watched the i watched tm s while was seen by myself at chilies and the waitress you know she was curious what i was doing and i said oh nothing yeah just nothing just by yourself you're not some weirdo shut up go away just refill my diet Coke. That's right. Bring me my riblets. So the good news, well, the bad news is

I Am sci-fi is not online. That means it's open to anyone. So if you guys get in there. That's bad news for I'm sci-fi. That is good news for everybody else. It is great news for everyone else. So get in there right now. Send me a DM in Discord.

You should all be prepared for this because I've told you to do it a million times. Get in there. Let your name be known. And then I'll take the fourth one of you. Immediately. And here's the thing. Don't hesitate.

or be slow with it because you think, oh, it's not going to, it's like, I won't happen. I love how Scott is berating the audience. I've already told you guys what to do. So help me. You would have been a good teacher, Scott. You would have been a great teacher. I would have been a pretty good teacher, I think. Hey, Mr. Culling.

I know. I've thought about that a lot, actually. I think I would have been a great teacher. I want to teach high school art. That's what I want to do. I'd do it tomorrow if there was a good excuse or they paid teachers a living wage. That was the teacher that, you know, that I remember. Most fondly, Mr. Nelson from high school, because he, you know, he said, no, go ahead, do that shitty artwork, Brian.

You'll be fine because it doesn't matter. You're going to do podcasts for a living. How do I know? I just know, because I'm a wise teacher with all sorts of wise ideas. Number four today, it turns out to be Navarine. Hello, Navarine. Oh. Hello?

Are you there? Can you hear us? Can you hear me? Oh, kind of. You're very quiet. Let me see. Excellent. Let me.

Brian, yeah, just a minute. I'll turn you up, too. I think I can turn you up a little. Is that any better? Keep going, keep going, a little more, a little more, a little more. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, there you go. Much better.

Yeah, much better. Yeah, you're great. Close enough. Yeah, yeah. Good enough for, what's the old phrase? Good enough for Chile. Government work. Government work.

It's government work. No, it is government work. I couldn't think of it. Close enough for government work. Brian, looks like we have a contestant. How's this game work? Oh, well, I'm glad you asked, Scott. It's time to play the tadpully feud.

I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to break the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, never, and your job is more important than ever, because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian, and if your team wins, you get a prize package, that includes, a 112 operator. This is like 911 operator, but 112.

I don't know why. And Monaco. I don't know anything about the game. Monaco. Could be racing. Could be gambling. Monaco's great. You could just be a princess.

I don't know. Brian, I feel or Dunaway, I think that was one of our first boop show. It was, yeah, very early on. Yeah,

that's an awesome game. Yeah, is it a racing game? What is it? No, it's a heist game, right? Yeah,

a stealth video game. Stealth heist thing. It's very cool. And really colorful and, I don't know, kind of had a cyberpunk vibe, even though not really. Oh,

look at that. completing heists and yeah that's cool top down heisty heisting yeah is it monica one or two I don't know probably one because it doesn't say anything okay yeah

do you already have one yeah I already have one so somebody else can have that oh alright we'll figure out a person to give it away and yeah and two is coming out soon right or it might already be it's our it doesn't have a price on Steam

so I don't know oh it probably not yet then your new game is Lust from Beyond M edition. Lust from Beyond M edition. You don't already have that one, do you? I don't think so. I've not even heard of that one. I played a little bit of Lust from Beyond because the dev gave me a code.

Okay, I thought I said Lost. No. And you might think, oh, it's one of these dirty Steam games. It really wasn't. It was just a shooter with scary stuff. It was pretty good. It was pretty good. But there weren't people like doing it all the time.

I don't worry too much. Never did it be said that we can't pivot quickly here on TMS with a replacement if need be. That's right. Monaco for Lest every time. All right. Get ready, guys. Put your hands on your buzzers. We're going to play the game here. We asked 514

Tadpoolers. Keep in mind, I am looking for general and not a brand. So keep that in mind. Not a brand name. Name something you'd find in an office vending machine. No.

So, Geez, I was going to get real specific. I'd say candy bars. Let's say candy bars. Show me. Candy bars. Number one. Number one answer.

No answer can beat it. Navarine you and Scott are going to be working together. Scott, you don't even get the choice to player pass because we don't do that on Tadpool if you. No. F that rule. Nor do I kiss the contestants. No, thank goodness. See what else you've got.

Nine answers. Remain. Maybe something you'd find in an office vending machine. Navarine, how do you feel about the soda there? You like that soda? Yeah. Let's get soda out of the way. It feels obvious.

Sure. Low-hanging fruit. Let's get it out of the way, right? Sodie pop is number three. Something in number two ahead of that? Weird. Navarine got anything popping into your head? I don't think this would be concerned with soda because it's not soda, but I've Gatorade, sports drinks.

Like other drinks? I'm not sure what to call it. I don't know. either because that third number three is soda slash pop which seems very specific to the fizzy drinks yeah so maybe yeah so we'll say let's say other drinks is the way of saying it that sure sure to general okay uh or energy drinks is how i categorize them oh okay show me energy drinks number 15 so your gatorade your five hour energy shots all of those things are considered energy drinks red bull uh separate from the soda slash

Pop. All right, Dono way. Sony Pop. So do you pop. Well, I'm going to press the double D22 for some chips. Chips. Chips. Chips.

Some chips. We've talked about everybody's favorite flavors of chips and crisps. And I still am hoping to somebody, somebody hopefully is going to be bringing some everything. Is that what it's called? Everything chips. Yeah. Which I've never had all dressed. I want to try it so bad.

Yeah. And I will eat them. all dressed. Show me chips or craisps. Number two, dear. Can you me? I have some creasps.

Number two. Nice to have done away. Duh. I don't know what we were thinking. Of course. Are those lance in your pants? Because I'd like some crackers.

Yeah, I got some crackers up in there. Wow. Lance in your pants. Oh my God. Well, well named in the horrible.

Oh, man. Have they, do they make all of those, like, peanut butter and crackers and cheese and crackers things in the 70s, and we're just still eating the original box. Oh, yeah, they'll go forever. I assume. Yeah.

Based on the, uh, based on the packaging and the look. Yeah. All right. They even have like an expiration date that's like a recent, like a close one, but they're lying. You don't need, you could eat those till 2084. That's the rule. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

Yes. Oh, yeah. All right. Show me, uh, those peanut buttercracker things. Peanut Butter Crackle. What? You're kidding me. Pop Tarts and peanut butter crackers.

You know, I'm glad we're taking Pop Tarts off the board too for Brian Dunaway because I know that that's a thing in his office as well. Brian Dunaway does have an advantage because he goes to an office and actually sees an office vending machine. I've forgotten. I mean, 2009 is the last time I saw one of these.

It's been a while. Yeah. All right, Dunaway. Keep it going. That was some big points right away. That's right. Well, we don't have one of these at our office, but I know it's a horrible idea. But you can definitely get an egg salad sandwich right out of there at the vending machine.

I don't know why you would. Such a bad idea. You can. It's one of those interestingly lit rotating hexagonal displays that just keep hitting the button until something doesn't look like it's been in there for weeks. Yeah. All right. Egg salad and all the things to put it. Yeah, show me the, and I'm going to, of course, you know,

make this into the generic sandwich vending machine. Show me, show me a sandwich. Oh, are you kidding me? Not kidding. And number 18 on the list was sandwich. People did say it, but. I feel like most, it depends on the office, I guess, but small offices aren't going to have that kind of stuff, I don't think.

Yeah, that's going to be in your commissary for a building with multiple offices, most likely. Yeah, because those things that have to be cooled. So this is a question. Okay, so Navarine, help me with this. I can't get coffee out of my head, even though I know a lot of times in an office, it's a pot, but they do have coffee vending. Is that a crazy one to say? And also, you know, remember, it is the tadpole. Would they have said coffee? Yeah, it doesn't have to be right. Possibly. It could be coffee. And there are, there is some canned coffees. I forget what brand it is. But I remember. something being in a can and coffee flavored. I don't drink coffee so I don't I've never had it myself but

All right I don't either Not a big fan Who's making the coffee pouring sound? That's Brian That's just him peeing into a cup I can't tell if you went to the restroom or if you're Oh I'm sorry Am I still miced up?

Yeah he's just pee he's a pee foley P-foli is what we call that Some coffee folly work is what I'm doing Uh give us let's go with coffee Even though it sounds a little weird let's do it Listen those vending they've those vending machines where the cup is a little paper cup and it's got a uh yeah a card on it

and you're you're playing poker with those cards on the vending machine it's absolutely yeah love that show me coffee oh number five good points who hoohoo okay I was worried about that one now I got nothing uh oh Navarine

what do you what do you what feelings do you have here I mean we could go candy but that's We got candy, crisps, or chips, whatever we want to call them, a soda. I will tell you that I did lump candy into candy bar because it felt like there were too many variations. Like if somebody said chocolate, candy, I lumped it all into candy bar. Sometimes they got those little two-packed grandma cookie things.

You think cookies are on here? Oh, those are so good. Oh, cookies are so good. Cookies are good. Cookies can be a separate one. yeah All right Let's do it

Navarine gives it the stamp of approval I say cookies Why don't you stick that cookie up your Up your woodnooky Get the cookie in the woodnucky I did it all for grandma's cookies That's right So give you that oatmeal cookie

It's soft for some reason Even though it's been in there for two years Show me Show me your cookies Show me your cookies Number six Oh puts us ahead We gotta keep this lead

Not bad Not bad If they have those in the thing that's kind of a, that's kind of a go-to for me. If like I go to a vending machine and they've got the cookies in there, the grandma's soft bake. Used to be, too much sugar now. Back in the day I liked it.

When I was, you were talking Brian about the poker cups, the poker card cups, when I was in junior high and early high school, when my dad was running arcades and had his own arcades and his own laundromats, he had those machines there with those cups, but they offered us like a hot, like a scalding hot soup. in there. Oh yeah. Yeah. You remember that? Right? Yeah. I used to love that. It did both. I had coffee in there and then you could get like a beef broth soup thing. Yep. There was a hot cocoa option and it was all so hot that it would burn whatever appendage it touched. Yeah. It felt like OSHA just passed that one by and did not make any decisions. Which created an extra little gamble that you were taking with those four cards along the outside of the cup and then that fifth card on the bottom of the cup that you'd have to tip. And the scalding lot liquid was dangerously close to stirring over into your face.

Yeah, yeah. And those durn cups had no struttle integrity because you'd just squeeze a little bit and the whole cup would just come out. Yeah, they were made out of whatever cheap paper of the day. Exactly. Yeah, 70s and 80s paper. All right. Four answers left on the board and a very close game.

All right. Never eat anything popping for you. I got two that I'm not sure if this first one will be anything. If not, we'll go to the second one. Ice cream. I've been in one office that I worked at had a ice cream machine. They had their own, like a very limited selection, I think maybe six items. But that was, there was ice cream in there.

Okay. I like that. I'm hungry. I say, yeah, let's go with ice cream, Brian. We like ice cream. Okay. All right. Yeah, it's usually like an ice cream sandwich, one of those chocolate-covered ice cream on a stick that we

used to call Eskimo Pies, but they're not allowed to be called those anymore. Nope. Uh, all right. Show me. Ice cream. Ice cream. Oh, ice cream. Boo.

Nobody, nobody said ice cream, even though we all can visualize those machines. Yeah. Uh, that's a bummer. I was really, I really thought that'd be it for some reason. Claire. You can't keep ice cream in a vending machine. Sure you can. They have refrigerated ice cream machines.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get an ice cream sandwich that. looked like it was in there as long as the egg salad. Wait to get to Vegas, Claire. You're going to see all kinds of wonders. Yeah, you're going to see things that come out of vending machines that are going to blow your mind. And you'll

do it two days earlier than the rest of us. Good luck, too. Yeah. All right. Brian. Well, I always get excited when I see myself some of those powdered sugar donuts, like four or five that, you know, in a little row there. Yes, in the vending machines. I'm going to say

donuts. Oh, yeah, donuts. Donnets, I think, is what Randy's is. Donnets. That's right. Oh, my God. Because they're Donuts. The full size one is a donut, so those must be Donuts. That's right.

Show me donuts. That's a good one. Pastry, bear cloth, cinnamon roll, sweet roll donuts, all those things I lumped into the pastry category. Do that include my mood back ahead? That would include like a little coffee cake, those kind of things? Yes. Yeah. have those little entomons, one-offs.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Again, my little mind, when I walked up to those vending machines when I would go, like, basically at when I worked for the phone company in the graphics department, and I'd go to the commissary, it was like, all right, what gets me the most mass for my 75 cents? And it was like, oh, the coffee cake is a brick of cake. The grandma's cookies, you know, a little disc of cake, but I'm certainly not getting the

Almond joy, because that's a, you know, it's a misleading log of coconut. It's for weirdos, is what you're saying. It's for weirdos. Misleading log of coconut. Yeah. All right, three answers left on the board. Still a close game. Four points separating our leader, Bribe, uh, against his opponents, uh, just Scott and Navarine.

Yeah. I'm going to say, uh, gum. Gum. Oh. Gum. Gum doesn't fall into these categories. That's good. I think that's a good call.

But I haven't seen it in vending machines lately, but I remember growing up, I'm trying to think of all the ones. I used to go to the YMCA, and they always had, always just get a pack of crackers and a soda and a can. And then before I would leave, I get some gum. And some reason, I haven't seen them lately, though. Remember those vending machines where you put your money in, and instead of pushing a button or pushing a combination of buttons, letters, and numbers, you pulled a straight, like a handle. it came straight out and it basically released the item into the uh yeah the cavern below yes that's when i think of gum vending machines that's exactly what i think of yeah nice uh all right show me gum got me gum got me gum hey got me gum damn it number four that 15 to 23 two answers

left on the board brain if you get either of these numbers or either of these answers i believe you mathematically win the game. However if Scott and Evreen, if you fail out and Scott and Evren get either one, they tie and can go for the win. All right. Oh my God, it's exciting. It's very exciting. Yeah, we're down to the wire here, folks.

Season three of the wire. We haven't said we haven't said water. We said energy drinks, soda, pop, coffee. Bottled water. Water is very yeah, bottled water.

Or even the canned stuff that sudden death stuff, what's that called? Not sudden death. Liquid death, those are in there now. Yeah, but those I consider to be energy drinks, aren't they, the liquid death? No, they're just water. No, no, no, no, there's water in there. Oh, they're just water. That's it.

That's the whole thing with those. But that's a very American-centric thing because aren't we like to the number one water consumers? I'm going to say water. I'm going to water everywhere and is it coming out of the vending machine. All right. Do it. Show me your water. What a hell?

Ah, shit. Number nine. So now, the pressure now shifts over to you, Brian. Because if you get number eight, if you get this last one, you've got two tries to get it. Right. And Scott and Navring have one as well. That's true. Then Navarin wins the prizes.

So if you want them to win, you need to get this. Well, then go ahead and press these nuts for some nuts in there. All right, show me D's nuts Oh man Nets was number 12 So basically right after the tie of PB crackers and Pop Tarts

Damn it Navarine The only other thing I can think of is like Pretzels Let's see, does pretzels fit in any of this? Hold on Yeah, pretzels would be one I was thinking something else

What were you thinking? What were you thinking? their last chance. Cup noodle. Oh, cup of noodles. Cup of noodles. Cup of noodle. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, shit. Those are in there sometimes. Both of those things. There are lots of times. You want to find something that's got to know me. You find in nature. I'm making never ring to make the call. What do you like?

Of the two, pretzels or the cup of noodles? What do you like? No pressure. Yeah, I'm not sure. That is. Yeah, I think I'm going to. Pretzels. All right. Let's go pretzels. Okay. These pretzels are making me

thirsty. Show me pretzels. Oh, God. Ah, that length of delay. Click the button. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. By the way, it was pretzels. Okay. Shit. Uh, yeah. Oh, man.

It's, yeah, the the valley, uh, you can't find those pretzels in the valley and, and they're not something you find in nature. I don't know. No, it's true. Right. What about, But if, you know, if, how about some trail mix or something? Sure.

What do you, what do you think? Don't ask me. I'm not helping you win. Are you kidding me? You got to help me win. No. If I win, then. Oh, that's right.

If we clear, you're right, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're sorry. Maybe you look at the chat room because chat room seems to be picking up when I'm putting down. All right. Yeah, they're saying granola. He said nature valley.

They're saying granola. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that sounds good. I thought, I thought, I thought. I thought if it was hinting nature, so I thought that it was even a trail mix, but it's granola. Well, as soon as he said Valley, I went, oh, I see what he's doing. Oh, I got you. All right.

Show me granola in any form, which you might find granola. In a bar. Oh, basically. Gnola bar. What form do you like your granola in? A bar. Exactly. Nice.

Well, that means we do have a winner then. Highly compressed. Look at that. I was worried that you guys might think granola bar as a candy bar or they might even think that it's nuts, but granola bars. What's the kind? Is it the nature value ones that crumble and turn into a billion sparks? Oh, God.

I love, hate those stupid dry-ass granola nature valley bars. Yeah, I love them too. They taste great. I would eat one right now. But when you open that up, it's just like sawdust everywhere. Exactly. Somebody found that in Costco and elbowed it as hard as they could. And now you're just basically dumping a loose granola into your mouth.

Yeah. And it's like this game trying to pick it up and scoop it into your mouth. Right. It's like, ooh, here's a partial slab that I can consume of the broken granola. Is it when you bite into it, less than a million pieces? Yeah. I love that enough people said this to make the list. I wish it was up in the top ten.

Stapler, or specifically Dwight's Stapler because. Oh, wow. Wow. Well, it was another prank the gym would be put the Dwight's stapler in the thing. Computer equipment also. A lot of people work in offices where you can get a USB charger or a flash drive or even a keyboard or mouse in a vending machine. Really cool. Well, then cigarettes then, if we're doing that. I see weird ones at the airport. No, surprisingly, nobody said cigarettes. Cup noodles did have, did have one, let's see, aspirin or any sort

of pain relief or Tylenol ibuprofen. Yeah. Somebody said money. We get those for free in our first aid kit you a bunch of mees i think that any office that creates the headache should treat the headache for free agreed i agreed too and if they're a big company they need a nurse on staff that's what i say anyway continue right right uh money so like your change machine that is kind of a vending machine uh let's see uh a lot of condoms i don't know what kind of office you work in but sure wow i'm telling you how about some uh zooped millennials are they in the in the workforce do they have some tide pods in a belief so yes and finally despair uh and then in parentheses or soda if you don't want to use that answer you coward yeah coward exactly we know exactly who said that yeah we know who said

that uh well done you know what this means right here congratulations you're a winner that means navarine is the fresh owner of one one two operator and lust from beyond m edition boy that's probably made it much more mature that game i'll bet i don't know actually i didn't play the m edition So maybe this M edition is the one you worry about. I don't know. But anyway, that's all yours now. And Brian, Brian Ibit there is going to send that to you directly via DM. So watch for that on Discord.

And thanks for playing, man. That was super fun. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yep, we'll see you around. He's a good feller. He is a good feller. Dunaway, you're also a good feller. And later today, we'll prove that at 3.30 Mountain Time when we do play retro

because today we're talking about Rye Star, Rye Star. Even though back in the 90s, I called it... You're a rising star. I called it Riz Star in the day because I was an idiot. But now I'm smarter and I know better. But it's a fantastic game. I wouldn't say that. There's no definitive answer on how to say Rye Star

other than on the back of the box when you'd buy it. They refer to him as a rising star. And the internet seems to think that that's the deal. But before they named it Rye Star, they had it named Dekstar. Oh, my Lord. So... Rist Star sounds right. me. Did you know he also had a voice for

a hot second, but they never made a game with it because it got canceled and this was the voice? I don't know what that means but I don't like it either. That was him. That was Rise Star. Wow. That's amazing. Real dorky. I don't like it either. Nope, me neither. I'm glad they didn't do it. But anyway, that's, that game deserves some talk and some love and we're going to give it

all that today at 3.30 Mountain Time at frogpans. But if you prefer to get the podcast, you can do that right after. Just get it wherever you get your shows. That's play retro. Brian Dunaway, thanks for hanging out with us. Oh, thank you guys. It was fun. Kiss our bones. Go it again.

Thank you. We will do it again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think one earth week from now. I think we will, yeah. Let's take a break, though. And when we come back, Tom Merritt will be here. We're going to talk about, well, let's just hear when we get that.

I know what it is, but we're going to win until that happens. So that's coming up and much more. So stick around. Brian, let's play a song, though, while we wait. What do you got? Yeah. A brand new album came out this last Friday called APO or APO, A-P-O-E. And it comes with a sneak.

knees. Whoa. Nope. Nope. Oh, it almost stifled it. Wow. Almost stifled it. I couldn't even reach the button, even though I had plenty of time to talk about the sneeze. I was too busy turning away from the microphone. Sure. Apo. Chris Kubea is the artist. But this is produced and include strings by Rob Moose, who does string work for Phoebe

Bridgers, Sufion Stevens, Bonnie Vaire. This is the hauntingly beautiful single, first single from the album. It's called, I'm Tired of this. Here is Chris Kibeta. When I have lost another friend And screaming doesn't do a sin The night will come and you'll have gone These sins will let us live again

For now we should just hang our heads Enclosing on a different end These sins are all but innocent These sins will let us live again I'm tired of you I'm tired of me I'm tired of this This can't be real

I'm only holding on for us For everything that I've done for all that you have said in jest a critic pretends to be strong while keeping his heart in his chest too easy to take you for granted too hard to say that this is true we've wasted our time on a lie but my heads don't will say that I try

I'm sorry I've been afraid way too long This can't be real It's gone too fast this must be wrong So, you know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be. Oh, I'm going to be able to be.

You know, Oh, wrong dab. There we go. Officers, if you have anything against me, then book me. Otherwise, as they say, get the hell out on my face. It is so delicious. I got it from Dollar General. The morning stream.

She took a chunk clean out of me. And we returned. I need additional information about that performer, please. Oh, okay. I will tell you the name, Chris K-B-B-B-E-T-A. The brand-new album is called APO-A-P-O-E. And that was his hauntingly beautiful new single, first single from the album called I'm Tired of this.

Nice. Well, I can tell you one thing I never get tired of. And that is visits from Tom Merritt, where we talk about tech. Let's do that now. The world of tomorrow will be as cold as sunlight. tuned through photochromic windows. I ride it naked.

He sure does, and it's Tom Merritt here joining us once again, as he always does on Wednesdays to talk about the latest and the greatest in the world of tech. Tom Merritt, welcome back. How are you? I am shivering in anticipation, because I ride it naked. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, look. Do you know that that intro bothers me less than the man one did?

Does it? Because I felt like the man would, like, made me into the, you know, the overlord. Oh, I feel bad. I've been using that thing for years. I mean, it didn't make me bad enough to complain. But there was always just a little bit of me. It was like, yeah, but it could be interpreted that way. I mean, it's cool.

This one, I'm like, oh, yeah, no, that's just true. It's just true. You just write it naked, yeah. Well, look, I'm glad we're getting to the brass tacks of how things really are. And how things really are are always involving tech. That's a terrible transition. Tom comes in here on Wednesdays. We talk about the hot tech stories because it's all in preparation

toward later today when we do the daily tech news show. Tom, I guess we're going to talk a little about notes today. Can I ask one quick thing, just if you can provide a really quick answer, Tom, with some tech. Because they talked about this earlier. If they create an AI Beatles song, and somebody probably already has, but if they do, would they have to pay royalties to anybody? Nobody knows. That's the beautiful thing about this whole thing. It's uncharted territory.

This is all to be decided because the big controversy, not even controversy, the big controversy, the big. discussion is about what is the use of training data to create a new output. A lot of people, and I'm sure there's people in the chat room right now who are like, well, no, if you use my stuff to train it and it outputs something that looks like my stuff, well, you're violating my property. Other people are like, no, no different. It's no different than if Scott looks an inspiration in art and then now draws art that is influenced by that. The training data isn't in there. And this is the thing to remember about open AI and chat GPT and all of this stuff is it's

not thinking. It's not consciously imitating. It's been trained to predict what's most likely to be next. So by definition, nothing it does is ever creative. So if you're going to say like, well, then it's a copyright violation, then every single thing it does is a copyright violation because it's all been trained on actual data unless you certify that every single thing in the training data set is free of copyright violation, which then brings it to fair use, which is like, well, yeah, but I can violate your copyright

if I'm making a fair use of it. I can violate your copyright for educational purposes. I can violate your copyright for commentary purposes. Fair use is defined as a defense to say, yes, you technically infringed, but you did it for a fair use. So we don't have a definition of whether chat GPT or anything like it is a fair use, an infringement, or somewhere in between probably needs new legislation to do. Probably, yeah. Probably. To me, it's like if you're a really good voice impersonator, right,

let's say you just do an amazing version of somebody's voice. Right. You're a wrestler-clond. Yeah, nobody looks at that and goes, oh, well, you're clearly violent. Copyright infringing. Actually, there is a right of likeness that you can violate if you impersonate someone in a way that implies that the person was saying the thing you said. Oh, really? This usually comes up with commercials, like a radio commercial.

You know, if I come on imitating George Clooney and it's never clear that it's not George Clooney, and in fact, if the intention can be demonstrated that they were trying to get the audience to think it was George Clooney, then George Clooney can sue and say like, yeah, no, that wasn't. me and you violated my likeness. And you hear those disclaimers on there. Celebrity voice is impersonated. You hear those. That's why you hear that. Oh, interesting. And you can make a connection to that.

You can say, well, okay, that's a use case where the person who they're intimidating has the right to go after them. So the question is, like the same exact scenario where an AI does George Clooney's voice in the commercial and they don't disclaim it, same violation, right? Or infringement probably is a better way. Violation is probably the wrong word. Well, yeah, we're heading into a whole new phase of interesting back and forth on this. And I'm so glad that it'll be nothing but like 75 to 80-year-olds deciding the rules.

It'll be great. They're the best people to decide the rules for technology. Well, because they grew up with it. Yeah, they grew up with all this AI. They sure did. Anyway, let's get to the topic at hand. So there's been a bit of a little bit of noise about substack and their new features called Notes. And I thought that might be kind of an interesting discussion.

Yeah, we might not talk about this. We might talk about it on Good Day internet today. We've talked about it quite a bit on DTNS, but I figured the TMS audience was interested in this because I know Scott and I are. The notes feature of substack is very Twitter-like. You post short things. You can like. You can, what is it called? It's not re-share.

Restack, I think. Restack. You can restack them. and you can reply, you can follow, you can see the people whose newsletters you subscribe to in a feed, but there's also kind of an algorithmic feed that just shows you stuff that's out there. And of course, the launch of this in preview caused Twitter to temporarily start blocking substack links and all this stuff over the weekend. That was a tempest in a teapot. It's all gone now. Substack links work fine. But it did make me and a lot of other people pay more attention to substack notes than I,

think we would have otherwise, and I have to say, I have found it very interesting. I have found it to be pleasant conversations. I've found it to be engaging. I've even started using substack chat, which launched a while ago, and found it to be useful. So I think there's something there. I don't think it's a replacement for Twitter. I think it's definitely designed to look like a replacement for Twitter, but I think it works differently, but in a really interesting way. Yeah, and I think there's, it works differently enough that this will replace. Twitter for a subset of Twitter users. In other words, or it could. I'm not saying it will, because we're too early. This is what a day into this or something, a day and a half? Well, a day into public

availability. Yeah, it's been in preview for limited numbers of users for a while. Yesterday is when it went wide. So everybody who has substack can get it. It's funny because my very top one is from Molly Knight, who apparently does pretty well on here. She says, shout out to substack notes for driving way more subscriptions than Twitter ever has, and she's showing her numbers. I noticed that too. I've gotten so many more subscriptions from people just seeing my chats

and notes and stuff than publishing substack when the links worked on Twitter. Yeah, and there's some issues, like when you see somebody that's algorithmically shown to you, like this Roman Raghavaria, Dran, or whatever's name is, he's got a little subscribe next to his name, which

makes sense. It's like a follow, right? But when you do that, you're actually subbing to everything including his massive library of of uh of newsletters and future newsletters and i think that's a bit of a problem because it what if you just want to follow somebody for their little thoughts and notes and you don't really care about all this other stuff you're about to get an email you know your email inbox is about to get flooded folks you can you can go adjust notifications and such to be not getting those emails get the get the in-app notice they have something called smart notifications which will only notify you one place or the other

I think it looks at where you see it, and then it doesn't send it to the other place, which is odd. But yeah, it is definitely not the same as Twitter in that respect. If you were going to use it as a replacement for Twitter, that's a barrier. It's like you don't want to have to subscribe to a newsletter just to follow something. But that's not why Substack launched it. I believe them there where they're like, no, this is an add-on for people to talk to their subscribers, not a replacement for Twitter. Right. And maybe that's a good thing.

Maybe that keeps it from spiraling out the way to it. I think that's exactly what I'm hoping. I mean, I don't want to say anything because it's so early. But what I, you talk about how pleasant it's been so far, completely agree with you. Part of me thinks, well, that's because the trolls aren't here yet. Like it's just, it's just, is it just because it's new? Maybe. Maybe.

It's part of it, I'm sure. If we had to, you know, if I had to put money on it, I'd say it's probably partly because it's new. But also, I think that just the, the, the long-term. sort of not cultural underpinnings, but the purpose for what substack does in the first place is pretty good anyway. There's a good foundation there, and I think it draws that kind of conversation.

So I think it will probably remain fairly pleasant, and like you said, probably not be a replacement for Twitter. Everybody wants that or thinks they want that. I don't know what I don't know what I even want, but I know I like this. So I'm going to hang out over here a lot. And that's where I'm going to post a lot.

So you should check it out. All right. Yeah, same here. I'm not going to stop posting on Twitter. In fact, Scott and I were just talking on Twitter about something. But I'm definitely going to post a lot of things on substack. And I'm not going to post the same things as many of the same things on Twitter and substack as I do between Twitter and Mastodon. I tend to reflect a lot of the things on Twitter on Mastodon because they are so similar.

I do feel like substack's different. Yeah, Spoutable, Mastodon, some of the other competitors hive. These are all, they really are trying to be a new Twitter. Like that is kind of the idea. It's like, hey, micro bloggers, check it out. We have all the features you want, plus these maybe a few others. So here you go. This isn't, I don't feel like this is what they're trying to do over here.

I feel like they're just trying to say, I mean, in some ways they are. And look, part of the boost here, we can't ignore it is because, you know, when Twitter shut off links and said, you know, no more substack links, everybody went, oh, why would they be so mad at notes? I got to check this out. Let me see. It's the stricet effect and full effect. It was amazing advertising for their, otherwise, it would have been just like, oh, a little feature that nobody's going to really talk about. But I don't know, give it a couple of weeks.

We'll see how we feel about it. But so far, it seems all right. Seems cool. I think it's going, I feel about Mastodon the same way. Mastodon, I feel like, is not a replacement for Twitter. It's a place for an audience that wants a certain type of thing to go. I have found there are people on Mastodon that I talk to that I can only talk to. on Mastodon now because that's the community

they've found. And then there are people like some of the people in the chat right now are like, Master what? I forgot all about that. So it's got its own growing audience that's separate. I think Substack has got the advantage of saying it is not the public town square. You're not shouting something to

everyone who can hear you when you you post here. You're talking to your community. You're people who are all around the thing like Scott's newsletter. We're like, yeah, we all like this. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, I'd recommend checking it out. You can go straight to mine over at frogpants.com.

Tom Merritt, of course, Tom Merritt, newsletter.com. Free tom newsletter. Free. How we just forget about the free part. Yeah, you got, because I am imprisoned by a lack of subscribers until you subscribe. Brian, did you, have you done anything over there yet? I just got my name and got my account and followed a few people, but I already liked the, you know, the vibe over there.

same you know it's got that vibe it's got that vibe son are you I've pinned the tab so it's now one of my little tabs on my on the left side of my tab list are you coverville over there I'm trying to find coverville yeah okay it looks like I mean

I mean come on well that's what I assume actually ace detect am I are you maybe you are oh no I am of course I am okay good but the newsletter isn't called that so Yeah. Cover. Coverville not shown up for me is the reason I asked. I can't find out.

Yeah. I think it's, well, wait a minute. That's my Twitter name. Do I need to make a post? Maybe make a post. See, this was what's complicated. My name as it's displayed is Scott Johnson when I'm in notes. But when I'm in the newsletter, it's frog pants. So I don't know. I think, I think that's another difference is like, this is not go follow people. This is subscribe to a newsletter. Then see what is being said to that community. Yeah. That's a really. I mean, you know, I'm glad. you said that before we end it today. That's the distinction here. The distinction is there's this, it's the backwards, it's the reverse of everything. It's not, hey, new Twitter competitor. Really, it isn't. It's, it's a service that already exists that does this thing with a Twitter-like new component. And that's really the way to look at it. If you look at it that way,

that's intriguing. And possibly one of the things that will be successful is that you are not, you are prevented from easily just following everyone and then getting really angry. at them. Yeah. Right? Yeah. There's a barrier to entry that says, no, I have to really be invested in this to follow it because I'm going to subscribe.

Yeah. And so it's going to force you to do what I think is best practice on Twitter, which is limit the people you follow. Yeah. Yeah. Super interesting. And, of course, you're also dealing with the first couple of days where all anyone is talking about is the feature.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So there's a lot of that going on. But I am finding some really interesting conversations. I found a science fiction writer I hadn't heard of before. I never would have outside of this. And he's got really fun, you know, interesting things to say. Yeah.

And so, you know, I guess good, good on them for that. It's almost like each newsletter has its own board where you can leave messages. Weird. Like a message board? A message board, you say. Screen. I don't, yeah, there's got to be a name for that. I feel like we're all, it's like everywhere, everything, you know, everything all at once.

We're going to get sucked back into time like she did two of those. walls and stuff. That's right. And now we're back in 2003 trying to update. It is weird that every time I go to a substack I hear the dial-up sound. Yeah. Kind of a strange ringtone. Oh, yeah. Awesome. Well, later today on the Daily Tech News show and like Tom mentioned, a good day internet,

which is like supplemental stuff at the top and bottom of that show. We will probably talk more about this. Plus all the hot tech stories of the day. So check it out. That's a 2 p.m. Mountain Time. We're going to tell you about the future of non-player characters. Oh, man. There's a very, a really interesting Stanford study that was done with some chat GPT stuff.

I can't wait to talk about that. Okay. That's exciting. That'll be later today. Tom, anything else you'd like to mention? So the TMS thing in Vegas. Yeah. I'm, I don't know. I don't know. Tell me what you think of it. I might just do DT&S live from there.

What? You think? You want to do one of those? I might be able to arrange an amplifier courtesy of James and Svet. And I might be able to arrange a a conference room yeah so sometime between 1245 and 215 and 215 and a ballroom

near you if you're at the plaza well you know I'll just bring my mixer just in case so we can plug into that amplifier and yeah that seems like a an easy idea that just came up now right here live on the air this is serendipity right

that's wild stuff I just heard back actually from the plaza so i'll hit you up with uh details oh fantastic hopefully hopefully uh it's within the price range because it's it surprised me like oh okay that's for the internet or for the room yeah internet yeah all right internet so we we can just go in the hall if it's just the bar yeah we'll forget we'll figure it out if we set up this amp here in the bar right yeah men's room actually depending on how many people oh i wonder i might have my room by then i've got an outdoor paddy at the pool

so there's a possibility there although it would be you know you'd have outside noise and stuff like that yeah yeah yeah well we can something's gonna be figured out yeah yeah we'll figure out and we get wheels down in Vegas

I can't wait to see you Tom that'll be great yeah me too I'm looking forward to see you in 11 days Tom Merritt everybody Ace Detect on Twitter and everything else we'll see you next time all right

please don't crash it didn't crash okay good well you know sometimes you you forget get who you're adding to the show. Oh, right, Randy. Yes, there's that. Yes. Nicole is gone today. We're doing a threesome for today's recommendals. For the last three months, we've done that. That's true. It's felt like we've had

a bit of a on and off, but it's all worked out in the end because, gosh dang it, we like to recommend things. Well, what do you recommend? Here's what I're going to recommend. Sit down and listen to the three of us talk about stuff we liked. And welcome to the program, Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy. How are you? Good morning, morning. How are you? Good. Thanks for asking. It's great.

It's a beautiful Wednesday. I am back from vacation. I had a fantastic vacation. How was yours? We had not one yet. Yeah. I don't really have one like a proper one until I want to say may I have something. Yeah, I was going to say this even two weeks from now is not really going to be a vacation.

But there are 11 days, 11 days for now is not really going to be a vacation. There will be vacation elements. And I will find time. I will make sure that I have time to relax and not be a, a walking ball of stress, but yeah, vacation for me, I think June. You got me thinking about all my trips to Las Vegas. I've probably been

to Las Vegas 35 times. And I don't think any of them were longer than four or five nights. I don't I've really been thinking about it. I've spent the last hour thinking. Have I ever been to Las Vegas for more than four or five nights? And almost all of them

were for two or three nights. Yeah. Like that's just, that's just the most. Unless you have a residency there in the strip or you live up in North Vegas or something like that. I cannot imagine why. I mean, it's just over. It's too much to be there that long. It's just too much. I would like to believe that if you are a chain smoker, Las Vegas is actually a little better for you.

Yeah. It's like because that aspect of it doesn't. You mean a member of the band the chain smokers or do you mean something else? Like if you're, if you smoke tobacco all day every day, I think Las Vegas. Vegas might not hurt you as much, right? Yeah. Just like you might be able to last longer just because you're not experiencing that oppressive nature.

That's funny. So I, at one point, I can't find the list. I made, I was sitting in line waiting for tickets to see the go-goes at Mandalay Bay. And while I was waiting in line, I pulled out my phone and tried to remember every trip I've taken to Vegas. And this was, this was about eight years ago, 10 years ago. I can't remember how long ago it was. But this was very, you know, a while back.

And I have not kept up that list. But I think when I did that list, I had been to Vegas, you know, 25, 30 times. In the late 90s, early 2000s, I had a blog that I contributed to that just described and sort of rated all of the free attractions in Las Vegas. And it was, it belonged to someone else, but I was the main person that contributed to it. And it was just like, you know, you could go see the parrots at Tropicana or the free, you know, Or the Penguins at Tropicana. Yeah. And it was, it was great.

It was so fun to just like think about this free, all this free stuff that you were getting in Las Vegas. And now looking back on it, I'm just like, man, I was bamboozled by all that, you know? Like, wow, they really got me. That's how they get you. Every time. A lot of those things are not there anymore. That's like, oh, free things. Yeah, you can watch the New York, New York Road roller coaster.

But, I mean, you can watch the fountains. You can watch. I don't even know if the Mirage Volcano is still going. I would pay a lot of money to just go see the original pirates of the Caribbean. Not of the Caribbean, sorry. Yeah, the pirate show, the original pirate show outside Treasure Island. What was it called? It was called the Pirates of Ti, right?

Right. Now, something like that. Because it was even before that, because it was even before that, they never called the TI until they changed the sign to TI and it was just Treasure Island. I remember the signs just saying pirate show. Yeah, Pirate Show. Yeah, and don't block the walkway when you watch the Pirate Show. Yeah, and you could fill that fire heat from blocks. It was amazing when they would do the fire.

You could. And there were two moving ships that would come to the middle like where the walkway was to the casino and they would fire cannons. And like you said, fire effects. There would be somebody who would swing across from one ship to the other on a rope. And the show was Pirates versus these British gentlemen sailors and the Brits lost

every single show the Brits lost and then the captain went down with the ship and it was so entertaining oh my God and then a few years later they decided

well it's not enough it needs to be more vagusy so they changed it to a group of pirate women scantily clad pirate women just basically so they could use the joke let's go get those seamen

yep get the semen that's what you do well that's a So they don't do that anymore, I don't think. I haven't seen it since the 90s. No, no, they've got a pirate ship that you walk past if you're going to the CVS that is now where the other pirate ship was in front of the TI. I love the, they should have kept the motif. So you're shopping.

It's making what you walk into a pirate ship CVS. Yeah, I'm looking for some cream for me feet, you know. I'm telling you, there were so many free things. When they first opened that roller coaster on New York, New York, it was free. You just got in line and you could ride that roller coaster. and it was totally free. Like, there were so many things. Yeah.

Oh, they have the Avengers thing is still in there, KT data? I forgot about that. And I try and go there almost every trip. I didn't go there this last trip. Just to see, just to do the gift shop. The actual Avengers station is a cool thing to do once. You know, you're seeing like actual movie costumes for Ant Man and Hulk and Iron Man

outfits and things like that. But the rest of it's like, eh, okay, that's fine. What was the, do a VR thing? shop is really where the action is for me. Didn't they have a VR thing in there? Like a, what am I thinking of? No, they had a Star Wars VR exhibit. Yeah, Star Wars VR at the Venetian.

That's what it was. That's gone. Yeah. I think that's all gone, yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, you know, pandemic and putting shit on your face. Yeah. Yeah, kind of didn't work in a Vegas lifestyle for sure.

Well, nonetheless and notwithstanding, it's time for us to dive straight into these recommendals. And Brian, you got a clip here to start. You always start. I do. Before I even talk about my recommend. movie. Braimbo Bright recommended something to me. I watched it. I enjoyed it with a little bit of a question mark, an asterisk at the end. And it's never going to make it for me as an official

recommendal unless you are a specific person who likes this sort of thing. It's called Swarm. It is it was produced and directed and written by Donald Glover. So if you like Atlanta, especially if like those weird one-off episodes of Atlanta that didn't fit in with the main storyline, but just kind of left you feeling a little uneasy. This is a series about a woman who is absolutely obsessed with a singer named Naja and goes after anybody who attacks her on social media because she is such a super fan. And never staying that before. in your life.

Exactly, yes. It is fascinating. It is, man, it is so well produced and acted. It's Dominic, oh, Fishback, Dominic Fishback, I think, is their name? Dominique. Dominique Fishback. And it's really, really good. It's really unnerving, creepy, but I came off thinking, yeah, the right person watching this

will really enjoy this. And there's people who'll watch the first episode say, yeah, this isn't for me. That's cool. Don't need to watch any more than that. If you watch the first episode, you don't get into it, then don't keep going because it doesn't get any,

it doesn't get any different than that. Interesting. I've got a, my recommendation today is one that I'm going to have to warn people. It's not for everyone. So we have a not for everyone kind of episode today. Awesome. All right.

Well, let's talk about your movie. What I'm going to recommend is for everyone. And you think of great British actors that we have right now, like Florence Pugh, like Karen Hines, Toby Jones, another good one, right? Folks that we all love when we see them on film sack. What if I were going to tell you, Scott and Randy, and people listening,

that all of them in one movie, yes, a movie with Lauren Hines, Toby Jones, and the guy who's going to be playing Dementous in Furiosa. Play the clip. Oh, my Lord. Is she reporting any pain? You know Anna never complains What if she's developed the capacity To convert sunlight into energy

As plants do Anna is in danger The great discoveries of science From Archimedes to Newton Have always seemed like black magic at first Have they not nurse? It's not science, it's nonsense Please, you need to stop the watch.

Mrs. Wright. Anemia, dropsy, scurvy, pellegras. You are a nurse. Please, don't make a diagnosis. You're paid to watch, not to intervene. You're neither the girl's mother nor her physician. You're overstepping, madam. If Anna doesn't eat, she could die.

Please just do your job. I do not know. Yeah, this is a film on Netflix called The Wonder. Tina found this and said, Let's watch it. And so I decided, yeah, sure, okay, it looks good. She hooked me with Florence Pugh. It's about a, it's an early, I'm sorry, late 1800s, 1872, I believe, English nurse that's sent to a rural Irish village to watch over a girl who is fast.

who's able to survive somehow after four months of fasting without really showing any signs of hunger, weakness, anything like that. And she's basically there to observe and make sure that this is not a medically, you know, something medical going on here as a nurse, but really just to make sure it's divine. intervention that this girl is able to survive uh without eating right um she's uh florence pew is fantastic she she makes this film um it's uh absolutely incredible she has a way of doing that with everything she's in she tends to make it better she elevates it without a doubt um and so she you know she basically goes there to uh to watch this the movie does something in the very beginning i won't spoil it that i don't think i've ever seen a movie do and it's and it's even as the opening credits are rolling, you're, you're shown something that you don't think you should see in a

movie. What, what is, okay, all right, you got me. All right. Well, you hooked me in. Yeah, nice job. Yeah, and, and, uh, but it, it, it surprisingly doesn't, doesn't take away from the movie itself and, and, uh, works as a, as a really good book end to the film, an incredible book end to the film.

Um, this is on Netflix. It is, uh, it's called. Again, it's called The Wonder. It's a very, I won't say it's slow pace because there's, you know, it's stuff is happening and moving and the, the progress. Oh, Tom Burke, who's going to be playing Dementus in Furiosa, plays a reporter who is also sent to this Irish village to report on the girl who's fasting. And he totally believes it's a hoax. So he's, um, I like that actor. He's there to disprove it.

He is, uh, he's got a look that looks. like oh crap what's his name uh another actor he looks like his angry little brother anyway i can't wait to see what he's like and uh um furious i can't that that guy's great i like watching him by the way before claire loses her mind karen hines is from england or not from england he is from ireland he's an irish-born actor just so she'll calm down in the chat claire are you okay now oh did i i don't think i even said that he was british or irish i thought you said british we love our British actors like and then you named everybody including. Oh, you're right. I did. Okay. Yeah. I think about this a lot. We have really

little idea of what people sounded like more than a hundred years ago. Like, we just don't have good recordings. And accents were probably very different in the past than we expect them to be. Yeah. He could do whatever, man. He could come to me. Karen Hines could walk up to me and say, would you like to buy some life insurance? And I would say, yes, please, from you. Sit down. Let's talk about it. I love that guy. He's so great. You also get Dermott Crowley, another British, no, I'm sorry, he is Irish, Dermott Crowley, who connects to my last recommendal Luther. He's the Luther's boss, basically, in the last few seasons of Luther and the movie. And again, Claire, Claire wasn't bitching about my use of describing Curen Heinz's

as British. She was bitching about Toby Jones' accent. Oh. His fake Irish action. She was having a major shit fit about that. That was the meltdown. Okay. Well,

there's so many caps. It's hard to keep track of all these caps. I know. You can't figure out what she, what's she mad about now. Yeah. Look out, Vegas. Anyway, so there you go.

Lots of British and Irish actors and actresses in the film, The Wonder, available now on Netflix. All right. That's one I definitely want to see. Randy, what, let's do you.

What do you got here? it's a documentary and uh i'm i i couldn't get a good clip it's the kind of documentary where it builds on itself and all of the spoken words are sort of spread out throughout the whole thing and there's it's got twists and turns it's a big buildup and i just grabbed a clip from early in the show because i like i say it there was just nothing there was nothing that wouldn't give it all away you know that wouldn't tell you the whole story uh so i You know, this is just, it's a documentary, and a woman is talking about her experiences. Excellent.

Here we go. I guess it was kind of almost like going into a men's club. They let you know it, especially at Bondi. One guy in particular, I'd call it a whole lot of waves, and the guys really hated it if I got a lot of waves. And so he dropped in on me. I'm like, hey, hey, don't drop in on me. And he just kicked me, kicked me and said, you know, get off. And I go, it's my wave.

you would have one dropped in on me and he just told me to go in. So that kind of stuff happened a lot. But then there would be four or five guys that were always really beautiful and always looked after me. So they kept me going because there was a lot of reasons why I should have stopped. No idea. This sounds interesting though. This is called Girls Can't Surf.

And it is by a filmmaker who has been making surf documentaries. And he, his name is something like Christopher Neelius. And he's best known for being at the top of the 3D fad in around 2010. In around 2010, he put out a surf documentary about these guys who go surf in front of storms, right? When there's a big storm out in the ocean, they go, they go catch big waves. And he took 3D cameras out there and filmed these guys. And he was supposed to be, you know, you remember 2010, man. Oh, yeah, we were into it.

Yeah, 2009 to about 2011, they were, yeah, force feeding the 3D down our throats. Pretty bad. So what this document is, it's an hour 45, this documentary. It's surprisingly long. And what this documentary does is it pieces together like a scrapbook, the history of women surfing professionally. And it's got tons and tons of contemporaneous interviews, as well as interviews that go back for, you know, 50 years. It goes back to the 70s. And there are lots and lots of times where women are being interviewed about their experiences as professional surfers. And what that experience is, you will

not believe. Like, I don't want to tell you because it's got some twists like a good documentary does, right? And so I just want you to watch it. You will be amazed at the awesome archival footage and it will surprise you. It surprised me several times this little movie about women trying to be professional surfers. Where is this streaming again? It's on Amazon Prime. Prime. Okay.

And it just came out about two years ago. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say it looks like it's a little older. But this thing's like unanimous on Rotten Tomatoes. Everyone loves this thing. Yes. It is, it's just a, it's a beautiful thing.

And it's got, it touches on every. woman's issue that you can imagine, like through, you know, through the, through over 50 years here of women, you know, just dealing with all the things that they do in trying to gain equality. And I guess I will spoil one thing because it's just a fact of the history of professional surfing. In 2018, women finally got equal pay and equal stature in professional surfing and uh that you know so the whole movie is kind of leading up to that but along the way man i just can't oh it's very emotional this review i like this review girls can't serve as a spectacular angering and grossing and inspiring yarn well assembled and packed with an indelible personalities

that sounds great i love this kind of stuff it's a really competent documentary you know like like i say uh making something uh that's just a scrapbook basically but has so much more you know to offer it takes a lot of a lot of talent yeah that's that's awesome all right definitely wanted to watch uh everybody here is my clip now i'm gonna just say at the top of this it's not for everybody this movie okay um i happen to like this filmmaker's movies generally but because i just think he's he's got an interesting voice and it's i don't know he makes the genres he plays around in Phil a little bit new like he's he's trying things that I don't usually see but this is definitely not going to be for everybody it's kind of a hardcore drama

I'll play the clip and then we'll talk about it where's mine spilled you didn't think to go back and get me another accelerated the event it was a little time and less inclination prick I thought you'd be okay with me just telling you about mine. Nope. All right. Short, short clip. Very short clip, yeah. Most of the dialogue in this movie is kind of rough and kind of hard to play on a podcast,

but the movie is called Dragged Across the Concrete. No, by the way, just dragged across concrete. Oh, sorry, I keep saying that. I don't know why I do that, but it is just dragged across concrete, which is a better title than the, the stupid. Anyway. Well, it just made it easier for me to find the graphic and links. Yeah, but it definitely.

is better not to have that extra word in there. Anyway, it is a cool movie, I think, directed by and written by S. Craig Zaller. He is known for Bone Tomahawk. Many of you who've seen that will know why that is a hardcore piece of business. An old western is his first film in 2015 that you directed and wrote anyway. And his second film was a movie with, you heard the voice of Vince Vaughn in there. And his second movie was called something on the block. Hold on a second.

Or Jenny from the block. No, it's 2017. Where is it? And I can't find. Oh, that's producer. Hold on. I just want to see actor. Why is that so hard?

Actor, here we go. Okay, he was in a movie called. Scroll, scroll. Boy, he's been busy. Hold on a second. Geez, the weezus. here it is brawl in cell block 99 uh also a really good movie and one i would recommend um and it's it's it's him in a way you've never really seen vans fond before it's pretty crazy but anyway

this movie uh dragged across concrete stars some controversial people Mel Gibson's in this he plays a uh let's call him a corrupt cop ultimately a corrupt cop all right okay like leading into some stuff i don't want to give it away in case you're going to see it, but he's heading towards some corruptness and fulfills the goal of corruptness at one point. Let's just put it that way. Vince Vaughn is his partner and they're both in trouble for how they treated an arrest. They were too brutal and too mean to people that they went to bust in their job. And so they're kind of off right now. And it's what happens during this suspension period that is the essence of the film.

There's a bunch of other people in here. You know Jennifer Carpenter plays one of the saddest, briefest thing she's ever played. You know her from Dexter and a bunch of other stuff. She's Dexter's sister. She's very good. Quarantine movie. But her weird role in this, I still can't quite get over it. That Udo Kier dude, who we've seen in like a bunch of film sack movies, is that really menacing-looking German dude?

Yeah. I don't think he's German, but whatever he is. He's really freaky in this. Is he German? He is German. Yep. Don Johnson's in it, although briefly in this, he was much more in the previous film, that Block movie with what's his name? This is somebody who tends to carry actors along with him.

It's one of those directors who works with people he likes. And then a really great performance by Tori Kittles, who plays Henry Johns. He is, I've never even heard of him before. I thought he was fantastic in this. The concept is kind of, it's sort of a heist movie, but kind of in reverse. It's very long, I would say overlong, but I feel like it pays off. And the final third is some of the most intense, unpredictable street-level crime drama I've ever seen. Oh, wow.

And this director just has a voice. It's hard for me to explain. It's not going to be a voice everyone finds pleasant. It's going to be an unpleasant voice in a lot of ways. And this movie is controversial because it, I think, dips into some, some subject. matter they're going to make it's just going to make some people are very uncomfortable so know that going in this is on netflix uh the reason i noticed it it's from 2018 but i noticed to pop in there and it was in their top 10 for a bit and i don't know if that was just star power doing it or people said ooh

mel gipson's controversial i wonder what this is like and here's the problem with mel gipson in general this is my take on mel that dude is a by all accounts kind of a huge dick in real life right just a gigantic penis. And it's really unfortunate because he is one of the most interesting actors and directors of our time. Like when he does his work, he's really good. Like he's really good at it. I just wish he wasn't such a pud in real life.

And if you're the kind of person that says, well, I can't watch a movie with Mel Gibson. I get it. Totally get it. Don't do it then if you don't want to. But he gives a great performance in this. Vince Vaughn is very good in this. These two movies from Vince Vaugh in a row from the same director are kind of like, whoa, they're kind of revealing about like he isn't just rom-coms and stupid movies or

whatever or a bit part on curb. He's actually got the chops and still does and he's very good in these. So yeah, just know you're getting into a very gritty crime drama that is going to run. Let's see, what's the run? Two hours, 39 minutes. It's long. And know that it's, you know, doesn't pull a lot of punch. And if you've seen Bone Tomahawk or that brawl on block 99 or the hell it's called,

you kind of know what you're getting into here. It's going to be a little rough. All right. So just be prepared. If that sounds like it might be for you and you're looking for a, I don't know, something different, I think that dragged across concrete might be your deal. You just raised a very interesting question for me. And that is, do I want Vince Vaughn from Wedding Crashers or do I want serious?

drama of Vince Vaughn. It's hard call, right? Like, I don't know. I feel like that's why it's so weird maybe is because he goes back and forth like this. It's not the first time. He was in that psycho remake and was pretty, he was good in it. His series in True Detective, his season of True Detective, like it's not the best season of True Detective, but he's really good.

Yeah. He is one of the better parts of that. Yeah, because that was season two, right? He was one of the better parts of that season for sure. And I just have a thing for Don Johnson's older career. I don't know what it is. I just really liked it. Yeah, I mean, Knives Out.

It was kind of a little bit of a revelation for us with him, right? Or was it something before that? Maybe, uh, was it? Oh, he was in the, um, uh, uh, Watchman series. He was really good in that. I think I saw that before Nize out. I can't remember now. Oh, right.

Yeah. It's all bleeding together. But I, but, uh, his, I just like his career now more than ever. Like, I didn't really care for it when he was young and, you know, the mind. The Miami Vice Arrow, it just wasn't interesting to me. But now when he plays these characters, he's a prison warden in that one I mentioned before, and he's just unbelievably creepy and weird in it. And this one, it's just really straight-a-head.

He's just the chief lieutenant of the local department, and he's the one that tells these guys they're suspended and doesn't do much else for the movie. But when he's on screen, he's really good. And I don't know if you guys follow Fred Melamed very much. Let me pull him up real quick. You know him from a thousand things. He was in Fargo. Wanda Vision,

a serious man, Barry, everything. He's in everything, this guy. If you saw his face, you'd know him. He's in this, and he gives me the willies like nobody else. I don't know why.

Really? Okay. Yeah. And that Jennifer Carpenter stuff is heartbreaking. Her role in this movie. Really? Freaking heartbreaking.

I didn't expect it. So I guess what I'm saying, if you like things you don't expect, and you're okay with a little Mel Gibson part, then this movie might. be for you. Brian, of course, put these all up on a quick, or quicksack, quicktms.L.I. They're there and you can go look at them right now. Awesome. Randy, how do you feel about today's lineup? How much of your take?

Oh, I love it. I'm having a moment with all of the new stuff. There's too much stuff. There's too much great stuff on streaming. There's too many streaming services. It's like really overwhelming. And I really, really appreciate it when people kind of like vet this stuff for me. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's a really, you know, there's a really high, highly rated show called beef right now. Like really, really highly rated. And I will almost certainly watch it just based on the Rotten Tomato score. But I'd really appreciate it. If somebody else, I know, Brian, I know. That might be my recommendation. All right. Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to hear more about beef because I smell like beef. It smells like beef.

Okay, this is weird. My wife walked in here, stood here on her phone. Yeah, we all saw her. She grabbed, she stole something. I think she took that guy's wallet. Did you take something? What is that? What is it?

So, Brian, well, I have you. Did I not bring you down? Sorry. Sorry. It's been a little confusing around here. All right, that's it. Randy, as always, a good time was had. And we'll do it again this weekend for a film sack.

We'll see you next time. What are we doing this weekend? I forgot. We're doing nope. Nope. Nope. looking forward to nope it'll be great okay let's get out of here we got a couple of quick things as mentioned i'll be on d t and s today at two play retro at 330 we got a quick text i'd

like to read this is a fun one all right this one is about spurt because yesterday's title was a dog spurt remember that i do remember that yes some of you had trouble getting yesterday's episode and i'm still not sure why because it worked for me on i try i test every day on like 14 different podcatchers and all of them work fine so I don't know what's going on it may have been an IP thing so let me know if anyone has trouble today I guess you won't hear this if you're having trouble but anyway uh it says ha ha why did it why did I spell it dog spurt S P-U-R-T I'm cracking up speaking of spurt I used to be a dog baiter now marketing manager for dog daycare and I have some fun horror stories you should share those send those in

yeah for sure I would love to hear those that sounds wonderful I don't know who this was That was a biffy, Biffy Dino. Oh, Biffy Dino. Very nice. Also, we got an email about kimchi and the way it smells. Enjoy this. Natalie, Alan, and the cats wrote in. Sound like a band.

It says, help. I would love your input as my husband is having fits about the smell. Talking about kimchi. Frankly, I hate lingering stinky home food odors, too, especially if they reek like a used baby diaper. Do you all have a way to quickly refresh in the air after opening up a container of kimchi, please feel free to include Kim's approach in there on this one.

She's not in here anymore. I can't ask her. I started doing, excuse me, Tom's lunch routine of kimchi and sardine, so later lunch the smells, sorry, so after lunch, the smells are bumping. I threw away the last half-eaten container that was in the refrigerator

because we were leaving for vacation and it was making everything smell like poot. I've tried everything opening up the garage and that eat it in the house and that's not been able to help. We live in Pennsylvania, and it's cold in the garage right now. I found the most success with lighting a candle and don't want to chemically refresh in the air with an air freshener. Vinegar, I've also done that too, but the smell is pungent as well.

I love the show, though, Natalie. Brian, do you have a trick for, like, stinky food elimination type deals? Yeah, we just move. We just find another neighborhood that we like and we move to it. You call your realtor. To be sure. It's the only way to be sure. no you know it's funny um we must not eat stuff that smells that bad because you know we just open the front window we open the back patio any any cooked salmon smells leave any cooked uh you know anything like that just smell just gets right out so well my experience with the kimchi which we have a ton of around here all the time yeah of course but the house doesn't smell like kimchi and the reason it doesn't is because i refuse to cook anything with the kimchi if you cook with kimchi if you cook with kimchi you cook with kimchi you cook with kimchi you

it burns the smell into stuff or embeds it in drapes and you know really okay so don't cook like once you've made but how do you initially make i guess you ferment the kimchi you ferment it in our case you just go to costco and buy the five dollar jubbo thing of it if that's the way we do it sometimes we make our own but or it's usually my sister-in-law makes it and brings it over so and brings it up so she's cooking the kimchi she's making her house smell so you don't have to yeah and if you're doing it the cold there's a cold prep method of making kimchi that involves no cooking at all. So you can definitely do that. The stinkiest thing we had around here is last night Kim made

pulled or made pork ribs. Is it just pork ribs? I guess so. And they were in an instapot thing all day or not an instapot, but a what do you call that, crock pot? And that smelled like somebody took a dump on your face. Really? Yeah, pork ribs? And they were amazing. Don't get me wrong. You know what I think it was? I have the sugar-free barbecue sauce that we used. Yeah, yeah. I think that stuff cooked is

funky. Oh, really? Yeah, you take the sugar out of it. I just can't imagine meat slowly simmering all day long, not smelling fantastic. Yeah. That blows my mind. That should, same with us. We were like, okay, it's got to be the sauce. I would throw that barbecue sauce as far

away as you can. It tasted good, though. I will give it that. No issue. Leave it in the country and just drive home. Just drive away. It's not that unlike moving after, you know, your idea of just moving. I like that. Yeah, there's that too. Yeah, sure.

Anyway, good luck. Just don't be cooking with it, okay? Just, that's my recommendation. Or if you eat it constantly, my brother eats it 24-7, he smells like kimchi. It's just the way it is. It just comes out of his pores.

That's a whole different thing. Yeah. How do you get the smell out of your brother is a whole different email from... A whole different question. And one I don't have a good answer for, by the way. I don't know how you get the smell out of your brother, but I'm working on it.

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Okay. I've got a song that's going out to somebody who entered their name as toe cutter. So enjoy that, Scott. Great. Soul and Bone. I'm making this request for my daughter, Lily. She has been transitioning for the past several years, and on April 17th,

will officially have her name legally changed to reflect her gender. Of my three children, I've always told her that she would be the one to make me the proudest. Oh, love you, Lily. And sorry, the other two kids, by the way. Love you, Lily. P.S., by the way, Scott, I'm in Washington State. It cost her $301.50 to legally have her name changed.

$301? $301.50. What the kind of price? Is that after taxes? Is there a flat number? Because that's weird. I don't know. That is weird. It's like $300 and then an extra $1.50 for something, right? Damn. That's amazing that it's that weird number. But also, yeah, I got to quit saying $50 in courthouse. It's not right. Yeah, exactly. $30.150 and $301.50 at the local courthouse. So anyway, congratulations going to you, Lily. And we're, all excited for you. Tokeller wanted to hear this one. Again, we played on the show before. I don't mind playing it again. This comes

from our resident heavy metal rock cover artist Leo Moricholi, or however it's pronounced. This guy cranks out some amazing metal covers of songs. On this one, we've got vocals and, in a rarity, we've even got harmony vocals and a little bit of screaming. Here's their cover of Toto's, Africa. I hear the drums echoing tonight But she hears only whispers of some quiet conversation She's coming in 12.35 The moonlight wings reflect the stars that guide me towards salvation

I stopped an old man along the way hoping to find some old forgotten words or ancient melody He turned to me as if to say Hurry boy is waiting there for you It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you there's nothing than a hundred men

or more can ever are you are best the rain down in Africa want to take some time

to do the things we never had are yeah yeah yeah the so

the wild dogs crowd in the night I say all restless longing for some solitary company I know that I must do what's right I sure as killing the gyro rises like Olympus above the serenity I seek to cure what's deep inside fighting all this thing that I've become It's come and take a large breath

be away from you There's nothing than a hundred men or more You're never to I best arrange I'm in Africa Come to take some time To do the dark things

We never had My yeah I'm going to be able to be. Africa Africa Oh Oh Oh

It's gonna take a lot to drive me away from you There's nothing that I'm men or more could ever do life erase damn in Africa gonna take

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