The Morning Stream - TMS 2456: Bed, Bugs and Beyond!
Episode Date: April 20, 2023Pour Some Coffee On Me. I Don't Like Rapid Unscheduled Disassemblyyyyyy. Vending Machines, They Have the Meats. Without me, how would my headache get around. A Bicycle Built For Chuck. You're wallowin...g in your own Filth Jerry (Kramer). That one gets in my cheese and melts it. Caffeine Bear. Open the Pod Bay Doors, Brian. You Almost Became a Bear Sandwich! Once There Was This Guy Who Sang Karaoke and Came Down to Vegas. If drunk karaoke singers are know for anything, itâs coordination. They Call Me Caramelo. Teats on the Moon with Amy. Third Eagle of the Therapists with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS.
Pour some coffee on me.
I don't like rapid unscheduled disassembly.
Vending machines.
They have the meats.
Without me, how would my headache get around?
A bicycle built for Chuck.
You're wallowing in your own filth, Jerry.
That one gets in my cheese and melts it.
Caffeine bear.
Open the pod bay doors, Brian.
You almost became a bear.
sandwich. Once there was this guy who sang karaoke and came down to Vegas.
If drunk karaoke singers are known for anything, it's coordination.
They call me caramel. Teets on the moon with Amy.
Third Eagle of the Therapist with Wendy and Moore on this episode of The Morning Stream.
We'll only air episodes involving whales and really big sea creatures. Isn't that every episode?
I could host on location from the Caribbean with a few humpbacks.
Maybe a giant sea horse.
That's ridiculous.
Obey your air, Red Lord.
The morning stream.
We're back.
We're bad.
You're black.
I'm mad.
I don't have any memory of what.
That's about, why isn't this turning down?
That was lethal weapon two, I think?
Was it?
Yes.
Somebody wrote that in a screen.
Well, you know, it's certainly possible that was improvised because I think a lot of the lethal weapon stuff was improvised.
Yeah, it must have been, yeah, because what I have is I have a whole bunch of ancient Fletcher clips that aren't, they're not new.
Some people think they're new, like he's giving me new ones.
But some of them are just really old that we never used for Filmsack as a movie got bumped or I held on to his little intro bits or whatever.
Yeah. And now they make for really good TMS intros. So that's what we got here.
Perfect. Yeah. Especially, especially that one, which is not even on the first page of dumbest things that Mel Gibson has ever said.
No, there's a whole list, man. We don't even want to get into that, do we? Yeah. I do not.
Well, anyway, hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Nibbitt. And we have a show for you.
Hello.
Yeah. It's a Thursday. And there's a lot going on around here. I want to remind people of the morning forum. We're not going to actually give.
it away on Monday because it won't be here. We'll be in Las Vegas.
That's right. But the winner will be picked the following Monday, and then we'll do a new one
and all that. So anyway, if you haven't already entered, go do it frogpants.com slash the morning
forum. A frogpants fun pack is on the line, and you could be the random winner.
So go check that out.
Frogpants fun pack. I hear some coffee. That really wakes me up to hear it. I don't even have to drink it.
Do you hear me pouring the coffee? Yeah. Isn't that weird? I have a psychosomatic.
My diner craft. Hey, honey, can I refill your
coffee? I feel
a weird sense
of like, I don't need the caffeine that's in
there, but me hearing it does something to my
head. That's weird. Oh, it's great.
Does Kim drink coffee or no?
She does, and she has
all sorts of fancy tastes
and that sort of stuff. So let's see you guys
go to a diner. Yeah. And
having your breakfast,
you get your coffee,
and Kim puts, does she a sugar and cream?
She'll do some cream, a little sugar, maybe.
She's more of a like, ooh, what weird flavor do you have here?
Gotcha.
Like, oh, a hazelnut.
Yeah.
Blah.
Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Yeah, she'll try that.
So then she doesn't, she probably isn't then getting the refills when they come around and say,
could I refill your coffee?
Oh, right.
Yeah, not normally, I guess, yeah.
Yeah, Tina works very hard on getting just the right balance of sugar and cream until it's,
until the coffee is just perfect.
and then she drinks some
and then when the waitress comes around
or the server comes around to say
can I top you off
she physically blocks
sometimes with both hands
her coffee because she's gotten
it to exactly the right
flavor profile
oh wait so she'll like go
like hands over cup
like like she'll just
especially if her mouth is full
you know she'll be like
like cover it up like
no try try pouring that coffee
through my hand into the cup
just try it
Oh, man, that's hardcore.
Yeah, but she is, you know, I'm like, oh, sure, I've already, I've already, like, you know,
splendid and creamed mine.
Tell them.
That's a title right there.
Yeah.
And I don't care if, like, they top it off and it's like, oh, well, now it's a little bit more
coffee flavored.
How is it?
Oh, it's very good.
It's a different thing.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So when she does it, is she just, like, full on, like, here's, here's a little creamer,
here's a little sugar, and she's going, taste it.
Yeah, it is.
A little taste.
M. Nope, a little more sugar. Nope, a little more creamer. And it's not a far-fetched thing to see Tina after her first cup of coffee with an array of empty little plastic creamer cups and scattered sugar packets, partially and full, partially empty, partially full.
I love it. I love it. It's quirky and weird. I love it. It is totally quirky and weird.
but that's way lover
that's great here's some
here's some quirky
this is just in we got breaking news
oh good
breaking news
it's almost
it's almost a terrible use of the word
because it's kind of
well you'll get why
SpaceX had a big
important launch today
and they launched their
Starship rocket
and it was a big deal
and what I love about it was
this is my favorite thing
they did a little report
afterwards and this was the quote
from SpaceX directly
as if the flight test was not exciting enough,
the Starship experienced a rapid unscheduled disassembly
before stage separation.
Disassembly.
Yeah.
A forceful disassembly.
So I'm going to start saying rapid unscheduled disassembly.
Anytime something breaks, explodes, pops, whatever I need.
A tire blows out.
Oh, what happened?
My tire had a rapid unscheduled disassembly.
That is a, that's as great a euphemism as a
conscious uncoupling.
That's all so good.
We didn't break up.
We had a conscious uncoupling.
Yeah.
It feels like they're trolling us just a little bit by calling it that.
That's right.
I beat you Jeannie Saras.
By the way, I know that there's a delay on the chat.
Yeah.
But I, Scott can verify.
I said that right before you typed in chat.
Confirmed.
But it also says that you're both of the same mind and also quality smart people.
Yes.
So well done, you guys.
Well, but done to both of you.
You're the bestsaurus, I should say.
Oh, yeah.
You're not a prickosaurus, which is what we used to call people we didn't like in high school.
You're a prickisaurus.
Prickosaurus.
Yeah, if it was somebody super rude, like they'd say, you know, what do you think of, I don't know, Terry?
And I'd go, that dude's a prickosaurus.
That's how you'd say.
I don't know why.
That was just the thing that stuck, and we did it all the time.
Okay, we got a morning form reminder.
We've done that.
How about a great Vegas question in the form of a call, Brian?
How about that?
Love it.
I love Vegas questions.
All right, good.
Send me your Vegas questions.
Here it is.
I'll play it.
Hey, Brian and Scott.
This is for TMS.
This is Andy.
I hope y'all are doing well.
We've got TMS Vegas coming up next week, and I'm excited about that.
I'm going.
I'm going to karaoke night.
And that got me thinking of this question to ask you all.
I'm wondering if you could sound like any singer that you wanted to, any singer that you wanted to,
who would it be?
For me, I think it's either Chris Cornell, just because.
He's just got an amazing voice and can be so much energy and, you know, so much passion, you know, just from one moment to the next.
Or it's Brad Roberts, the crash test dummy guy.
Yeah, I like that he did a little sample at the end.
That was great.
Yeah.
Brad Roberts is, I think, an even better pick.
I love Chris Cornell's voice.
I think there, you know, nobody, just like the title of his cover album.
nobody sings like him anymore.
That's true.
But in the context of like getting up and doing karaoke,
there's no better choice than the Crash Test Emmys guy.
Because it's just so awesome.
You get up there and go,
doesn't mean what the song is.
Yeah, but he doesn't have, I love Brad Roberts.
I know there's a great, he did a great solo album,
a live album called Crash Test Dude.
And he covers things like Androgyny.
He covers, he covers, he does some old crash test dummy songs.
But I feel like, you know, people are going to get sick of you going up there.
At first I was afraid.
I was petrified.
Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side.
I don't know.
You're selling me on it, though.
Really?
Yeah.
You're selling me on it.
I don't know.
Maybe I would get tired of it.
But I like it.
You could be my silver spring.
I love that Superman song he does.
I could hear that right now.
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
So who would you choose?
What do you got?
Adele.
Listen, if I could sing like Adele,
hell yes.
Yeah, why wouldn't you?
Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, especially in her, like,
even her high-pitched female voice.
Imagine that coming from Brian from a stage.
No, I will tell you exactly who it is.
and people are going to go, who?
As if I just said Starlord.
But I'm going to say Paul Carrick,
and there's maybe eight people in the audience who are saying,
oh, Paul Carrick, good choice.
So Paul Carrick, you know from Squeeze.
He was lead singer, he only was with the band for two albums,
two albums about 15 years apart.
But his big song with Squeeze was tempted.
Tempted by the fruit of another.
Oh, that song's great.
That song is great.
But he was also with Michael McCann.
panics for a long time, and their biggest hits,
Silent Running.
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear?
And what was the one about his father?
Say it loud.
Say it clear.
You can listen as well.
Yeah, that one.
He's got some cool music.
Dude has some amazing range,
and one of the most controlled,
soulful voices still sounds
absolutely amazing
but um all right yeah
paul carrick if i could sound like anybody
freaking paul carrick okay
without a question that sounds fair he's done
oh man he's done songs with linda ronstadt the eagles
diana ross tom jones michael mcdonald
hey that ho
you go from somewhere
back in a lot of the
oh no no please
give me a sandwich
Maybe throw some change
I miss that guy
He was not dead
I think he's still alive
No he's still alive
Yeah he's still alive
Yeah he's still with us
Elton John
Eric Clapton
Rocks music man that guy
Busy Ringo Star
Yeah
Like here's what you do
And I'll bet
I haven't even looked
But I'll bet if you go into Apple Music
And say Paul Carrick
Essentials or something like that
You will get a
playlist
That will blow your mind
as far as the range, the width and breadth of his music.
Yeah.
See, in my concept of this is, how goofy do I want to be?
Do I want to be, thank you, dear.
Do I want to be like...
Tiny Tim?
Yeah, or something.
You know, like Ronnie James Dio doing feelings or something, you know?
Like just a...
Like one of those metal hair guys.
Rob Halford or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Something like that where everyone's just like, whoa, I can't believe that
version of uh i don't know what's a what's a what's a what's a karaoke staple uh total eclipse of
the heart total eclipse of the heart is it really i don't know if it really is you know what that's a
really good question i bet that uh jeez cara caravan and all these karaoke apps should be able
to tell you what the most karaoke song is i'll bet it's different now than it was 20 years ago but
20 years ago clearly it was it was total eclipse of the heart well let's see what billboard says
Oh, is there like a billboard chart of most karaokeed music?
There's one that's, it's, they're just, their list is the greatest 100 karaoke songs.
So this might be just their picks.
Okay.
I think it's just their picks, but let me see if I can find.
Oh, sweet Caroline's got to be up there.
Yeah.
So it's number one, number one they claim is Shania Twain's man, I feel like a woman in 1998.
Oh, God, yeah.
It's, oh my God, we're here at this bachelorette party.
We should totally get up there and do, man, I feel like a woman.
Let's get all six of us up there.
They're totally drunk.
Yep, you're not wrong.
And then for the men, it's, uh, or maybe the women still.
Backstreet boys, I want it that way as number two.
Ah, wow, man, my fire, my one.
And you see the little dot going.
Desire.
Yeah, and it's always videos of, uh, some random couple walking on the beach, uh, with the, with the words in front of it.
Yep.
That's the rule.
There's also, they got Gloria Gaynor's, I will survive.
It's a pretty good one.
I did that one with my Brad Roberts.
You got your queen bohemian rhapsody.
You might make sense.
Oh, that's a bad choice.
Sorry, but...
Bad choice?
I think bad choice.
Because there's so much going on in that song.
You're not going to be able to do, you know, oh, mama me, mama me, a mama me, let me go
Biosie bubub, and which, you know, there's harmonies going on there.
Which voice do you do for B.LZBub's got a devil put aside for me?
Yeah.
You'd have to have, it has to be mandatory multiple people at once, and they'd
have to be coordinated in a way that's it have to be organized and one of you only one of you can do anyway the wind blows yep and it has to be the guy that can go a little high uh lady gaga and bradley cooper shallow from that movie uh the star is born dale is what they have uh alanus maurcettes the you ought to know is number six okay that's that's uh i'm drunk and i'm gonna do this because i'm pissed off that's right i'm mad i got a jagged pill stuck somewhere and i'm mad um
Number seven, they have Nikki Menard.
By the way, I want to commend to you, this might be the first time you haven't said bitterest.
Yeah, I got it right.
For Alonis Morrison.
I got it right.
I have a little post-it note right here that says, never say that again.
Alonis equals bitterest, or Alonis equals jagged, the jam equals bitterest.
That's right.
Number seven, a song I don't even know.
Maybe I do.
Nicky Minaj is Super Bass from 2010.
Do we know that?
Yeah, we probably know it.
I can't, I wouldn't know people too well.
I do not know what that is.
Garth Brooks, Friends in Low Places.
I don't want to be at that karaoke
I don't need to hear that song ever again
Thanks to the 90s and being a wedding DJ
Yeah
And I got a lot of
I have fond thoughts about Garth Brooks as a person
Sure, oh yeah
But I don't like his music for him
He's a mensch
Yeah
Oh Brian number nine
Bonnie Tyler total eclipse of the heart
There we go
It had to be up there somewhere
Finally number 10
Brandy and Monica
Singing the boy is mine
A boy is mine
Sure
Okay 98
A lot of 9798's in here
yeah what happened there that's weird isn't it girls just want to have fun there's an old one
some of these down the list sure uh four non blogs somewhere some pet benatar on there i'm guessing
banatar's in here ritha franklin's respect is a big one yeah uh b 52's love shack
it sounds right i do that i got me i cry i do that part sure well let's uh you know there
there is going to be a karaoke night uh going on in Vegas and uh we'll will drag you there and
The only thing you have to do is, I got me a Chrysler.
It's about $20.
All right.
You know what?
You may have just, I hate karaoke, but you may have just made the one case for what I would be willing to do.
I'll get up and do Fred.
What's his name, Fred.
Schneider.
Fred Schneider?
Yeah.
I'll do that.
Down, down, that guy.
He's great.
And then we get Claire to go, Ted Roof.
That's right.
Rusted.
Rusted.
Yeah. Goddummit. All right. Goddammit. Yeah, there it is. Let's say, oh, a quick fond farewell to my in-laws. Many of you who have come to Nerdtaculars before will remember Steve and Sarah, Kim's sister Sarah and her husband, Steve. They're always there and they're always helping with stuff and kind of a, you know, you'd always see, if we had an event, they were there, if it was local. Anyway, they got, they bought a bunch of land of Mississippi.
and they left today in a giant 25-foot truck and three cars that includes them,
their two kids, they're still home, and five dogs because she's a breeder.
And so she has to take these dogs with her.
I don't know how that's going to go for a 25-hour drive.
But they're on their way down there.
They're building down there.
They've got this amazing property.
It's 10 acres, but part of the acreage overlays a lake, and that will be their land.
so they can like put a dock on there and you know stock it with fish and all that yeah it's pretty
awesome it's going to take him a while and Steve's going to build like his dream shop and I'm really
excited for him but it kind of sucks because they've been here as long as we have her her sister
moved up here shortly after Kim did back in the 90s and this is their first time going anywhere else
that's like out of state they were in Ohio for a couple of years but anyway fondest farewell
they might be listening right now everyone be nice Oscar don't be
You need your mom.
What else?
I hope the dogs don't puke.
Good luck to everybody.
Because that dog is a car puker, one of them is.
Oh, no.
Oh, we got it in 25 hours.
I mean, you basically have to just give that dog nothing but liquid.
Liquid diet for the whole ride.
Yeah, it's funny, though, too, because the other four are all pretty chill, like no big deal, but this one.
Just a little bit of a nightmare.
But anyway, we're going to miss him.
But they stayed here last night.
slept on a mattress because their house is all cleared out and all that stuff.
We had five dogs sleeping down here.
The mattress.
It's the mattress.
It's the mattress.
We've got to get rid of that mattress.
Got to get rid of the mattress.
Yeah.
Everybody go watch Hellraiser.
Watch Hellraiser.
It'll make you, you'll understand.
The weirdest out of context comment, I think.
I think so, but it works for me.
All right, we're going to get Red Fragel in here.
You might know her as Red Fragel or you might know her as Amy.
Amy's coming to Vegas, but also a part of the show on the weekly.
She does a Thursday episode thing, and we're going to do it right now.
One of the things that I enjoy also is reading.
Oh, us too.
And the reason we enjoy reading, oftentimes, is because our good friend Amy comes by and gives us great recommendations that we can then go read ourselves.
Amy, welcome back to the show.
Good morning, friends.
You know, every time I hear my little, you know, welcome music, I,
I sit here in my chair, my head bops back and forth.
And I'm just like, I'm skipping along now on the path.
I love it.
I love it.
There's a little visual, right?
A little animated visual that seems to go with that in our heads.
Yeah.
You know, you're our Jordy, or not Jordy Ford.
You're our Lavar Burton here.
Oh, wow.
Personal reader.
I do picture Avey with actually like a picnic basket full of books.
Yeah.
Like you said, skipping down a path with flowers on either side.
And perhaps there is a rainbow behind her.
Oh, look.
Oh, this is a great visual.
Well, it's good to have you here.
Take a look. It's in a book.
That's right. Take a look.
It's in a book. The Reading Rainbow.
Hey, you brought something with you this week for reading.
That'll be good because, you know, for people who are traveling, maybe overseas for our big event, maybe they could grab this book and read it on the plane.
You know, that sort of thing.
Well, in light of that, I actually, as far as the books are concerned, it's several, but they're short.
And so today, Friends, is Poetry Day.
Oh, Poetry.
It's going to be lovely.
I'll see you guys in back ten minutes.
No, trust me.
I'm kidding.
Brian was a, he's a poet at heart, all right?
We're going to find out just how much here.
All right, go ahead, lay it on us.
What do we got?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Well, we can start with the clip that I brought.
This one, Claire will enjoy this one, I think.
Oh, geez.
All right, well, we like doing things she enjoys.
Here you go, check it out.
The moon's gravity is only one's sixth of ours.
My tits will be awesome there.
Taking a bath on earth, breasts float.
The liver lifts off the kidney.
The small of the back arches up and off the bottom of the tub,
curling like an in step.
And very quickly, the body forgets
forgets everything it knows about gravity and burden bearing.
It's a house cat who was whisked through the legs of a visitor
out the screen door into the night,
and even before she's off the block,
she loses all recollection of what her life
has been, the food dish in the afternoons,
the name you call her, the collar around her neck,
whose tag may as well be blank.
There are two ways to end a bath.
In the movies, women step out of the tub
and into a plush towel,
often reflected in a steamed mirror
in deference to the sensors.
I prefer to pull the plug and let it drain around me.
The organs acetyl heavy on each other,
settle heavy on each other.
The breasts flattened down against the ribs,
hair clings to everything it can,
and the body is re-yoked to itself.
The posture that was appropriate for floating
looks limp and broken now.
The steaming human form on the bottom of the tub
looks like it might have fallen there.
The porcelain crater, a product of the impact,
or maybe it was dropped there
from the jaws of the house cat, out all night, play hunting.
Whatever you get when you take a bath, the bath,
bath takes back and those five-sixths are yours to carry.
I absolutely love that.
That is awesome.
This is the weirdest haiku ever.
I think the syllables are totally wrong on this one.
Oh, it's this kind of poetry.
He's like, oh, my God, there's like 18,000 too many.
Exactly.
Wow.
All right.
So that sounds awesome.
Who is this?
She sounds familiar too.
I don't know why.
Well, her name, her name is Dessa.
And she is a hip-hop artist and poet and also a short-story author.
She is amazing.
And that was called Tits on the Moon.
I just loved that.
I saw her perform that live.
And I just love the imagery because I do that.
I don't know if you guys do that.
But like when you take a bath, you know, like she says, you got a choice, right?
You can get out when the water's still in there.
or you can just sit there while it drains out and as it drains out you get heavier and heavier
and I was like oh my god that's so relatable obviously it's been a long time since I've
taken a bath I mean I don't know how obvious that is obvious Brian how horrible of a bath
it's obvious how long it's been since I've taken it'll be obvious when we get to Vegas
that I've used any cleaning products whatsoever but no I'm not a I'm not a bath person
for whatever reason
but when I did take baths
that's absolutely what I did
and it was less about
oh let's feel the gravity of stuff
like going back where it was
when it's not floating
and more about
dang it this wet's cold out there
I want to be in this warm water
as long as possible
yeah yeah no that's a good way of putting it
and I just did a bath the other night
just to sort of self-care chill out
relax my muscles kind of thing
and same deal
I hit the thing and I listen to that sound
of it swirling away and sucking its way out
and I just lay there until it's gone.
I love it.
So she was speaking my language for sure in this as well.
And it sounds like even Brian back when he took baths
and back in the day.
In 1985.
Back in the day.
When Brian bathed.
When I took care of myself back then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have several books that I can recommend with like a little short form poetry.
If anybody's interested, these are, some of them are great.
And some of them are, are, in fact, hikus or, you know, just little short poems.
One of them in Dessa's book called Spiral Bound, which is it contains poems and also some short stories.
But this one is called My New Purpose.
Without me, how would my headache get around?
That's it.
That's the whole poem.
That's awesome.
I love that.
And then I also wanted to recommend there are a few that you can go out on YouTube.
And I'll put links up and everything for all of these because some of them are available on YouTube.
Vance Gilbert has a poem called The Day Before November.
And it is, I wanted to play that one, but it's like five minutes long.
And there's no good place for me to clip it.
But just trust me, you want to go listen to Vance.
because Vance Gilbert, of course, is a singer-songwriter,
but he has this one, you know, one spoken word piece that is so haunting and it's really good.
Never heard the name before, and he's known for this?
Like, he's, you know, I should do, should I know him?
I feel like I should know him.
I don't know.
I mean, Brian probably does.
But, yeah, Vance Gilbert, he's a singer-songwriter.
He has a lot of songs, but they're not like, you know, he's kind of an indie.
artist.
No karaoke hits from this guy that you're aware of.
No, no, I mean, I would, I would, because Chuck knows how to play a bunch of them on the
guitar, so I karaoke that, but that doesn't make it, you know, that doesn't make it so.
And then I've mentioned before Jim Infantino, he also has a slim volume of poems.
A lot of them are like lyrics to his songs, but there are also some poems in here.
like one called I woke.
And it says, I woke in the blue morning.
You smiled and kissed me.
I rubbed your belly, dissolving all fats, a warm ellipse, a smile, a kiss, and this, and this.
And the sky would be out all day.
Wow.
I love that one.
Wow.
That one gets into cheese and melts it.
That one makes my bottom tingle.
Oh, hello.
All right.
We're not in Vegas yet.
Okay.
so yeah these are great i don't mean i probably is it hard these days to know like i feel like
if you go to the kindle store or you go to a bookstore even it's pretty obvious what the hot sellers
are or what your genres are you know regular book reading is kind of an easy access kind of deal
in our modern era but if i walk into a bookstore or even go to amazon or something i don't know
what to even look for when it comes to poetry i don't even where to start like it doesn't feel like
even have a section at Barnes and Noble, but I don't know where to go over there and what to
browse and who to talk to or, you know, any of that stuff. So how would, how do you suggest
finding new and good poetry? Well, okay. Um, you know, ask me for starters, but also and, and I mean,
a lot of times, um, Brian might be a good source because like I say, a lot of times singer,
songwriters, you know, they'll come up with lyrics first, but then they never quite get a
melody down, but they still write the thing down, which is kind of how legitimate
gripes came about.
And Jim Infantino also used to do like what he called napkin poetry.
Like he'd do these live sets where it was almost, it was just like improved.
And, you know, he would write poems on the spot on people's cocktail napkins.
Oh, that would be so cool to have something like that, you know.
Really, really cool.
Yeah.
I found out about Dessa from going on the Joko Cruise.
She was one of their artists there.
And then some of these I just kind of found out about, like, Chuck, Chuck knows about Vance Gilbert because he's one of his favorite artists.
He's also from New England, which is where, you know, Chuck is from Connecticut.
So he knew of that.
And then you guys may have heard of Taylor Molly before.
If you haven't, you should go and look up his poem called What Teachers Make.
Taylor Molly is the name?
Taylor Molly.
I'm writing it down.
And like M-A-L-I, what teachers make.
And it's really, really good.
And it's, yeah, it's kind of a, it's a bit of a rant from a former English teacher turned poet.
But it's, it's really good.
My son is freaking out right now because that's his favorite poem ever.
Really?
He loves it.
So he's like, ah, you mentioned my favorite poem.
Oh, that's great.
I'm looking through the Amazon store, and I'm trying to figure out if Henry Rollins ever did.
Because he does a lot of spoken word stuff, Henry Rollins, punk, punk artist.
Incredible, incredible spoken word artist as well.
And I'm wondering if he's ever done any actual poetry stuff or if it's all just been social commentary.
You could see that guy getting up on a small stage and like doing that.
Easily, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Probably has.
Probably hasn't. We just don't know about it yet.
Somebody out there go find some Henry Rollins.
Some Henry Rollins poetry.
Yeah, for sure.
I'll be on the lookout for that.
If I come across it, I will post it for sure.
But yeah, so go and, you know, as I say, I will put up the full list of all the ones that I listed today.
And then also some other ones possibly.
In our DMs and Discord, send me one that I can put on QuicktmS.L.I as kind of like the,
If you only buy one thing of poetry, one audio book of poetry, it should be this one.
That's great idea.
Yeah, I love that.
TMS.
Yeah, very cool.
Cool.
Yeah, I'll send you the link to Tits on the Moon then.
Oh, cool.
Perfect.
That's awesome.
You know, there's something for everyone.
And turns out Tits on the Moon is out there.
Turns out, yes, because, boy, Google searches, it's really returning some unusual stuff.
Yeah, don't search for.
Yeah, I'm saying this one for later.
Yeah.
Well, you know, they say, you know, if you're going to come out and, and.
do, you know, spoken word or poetry, you got to get the audience on your side.
There's nothing like talking, you know, saying, my tits would be fantastic there.
It's a great.
It's a great start.
You know.
Yeah.
Imagine, see, I always think about what, how would it be, you know, because we humans, humans are uniquely set up and, and have evolved here based on earth gravity, earth's conditions, earth's everything.
Uh, you go over to like Jupiter.
That's called tits on the ground over there.
Right.
because there's so much gravity
that's not
that's not a place
that you'll be my
you'll be you know
you could be 20 but you look like my
grandma you gotta tuck them in now
anyway they're like concave at that point
yeah nobody wants that
but I'm looking forward to seeing you next week
may when you get there
may you get showered with questions
about your favorite books
I'm so excited you guys have no idea
I'm still like in
deep in preparations but things
are, things are working out.
Do you, are you bringing stuff I'm stuffing in bags?
I can't remember.
Are you doing that this year?
You are.
Oh, oh, for swag bags, you mean?
Yeah.
That is a good question.
If you are, it's totally fine.
What do you think?
What do you think?
We can.
You totally can.
If you want to, it's up to you because we're doing the major assembly of these there.
So, you know, if you've got like a bag of stuff and you want us to do it as part of the
little assembly in there, we can totally do it.
Yeah, let's do that.
Just let me know.
That sounds good.
All right.
that sounds great i'll be glad help him i'll be glad to hang out with her and stuff bags full of stuff
oh heck yeah she'll she'll probably love the help um hopefully i'll hopefully i'll be of some help
but you never know with me uh amy it's a pleasure as always to have you here and can't wait to see
you next week tell chuck uh the same okay i will we really mean it we really mean it we really mean it
oh i know don't we ryan we totally mean it i'm very aware i'm like i'm just a vehicle
for Chuck really sure well may your flight be safe no a bicycle is a vehicle for Chuck that's true
ah yes that's true that's true if you end up on a plane with marjor taylor taylor green uh you have my
permission to throw your pretzels out all right all right all right we'll see you she she must hate
having her as a state she's a state rep what is she's a she's a senator right no she's a she is
congress yeah yeah she was never senator representative right right yeah and i think she just got some
small rural deal oh that's right no it's bober that we have uh to you know call locally our
our uh gun barbie yeah yeah you guys get the real you get the real raw into the stick over there
with her we really did yeah unfortunate uh why did that music play i don't know uh still getting used to
these new tools let's uh take uh ourselves right straight into the world of the of the podcast morning
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snap! Yeah, how's that going there? Isn't there big
update or something big going on? What happened? Yeah, they just
had an update and they leveled out a couple of the cards
that were breaking the meta.
Shuri and Thanos
were over-dominating
in battles because, like, if you had
one of those, you could just wreck people
and they Nerf both of those
And I think it's a little bit more, I don't know
A little more even now
Yeah, a little more down the middle
Like we like it?
A little more down the middle
I've got a deck that I'm enjoying playing right now
That is, well, I won't say
Because I think Amy wants to play against me
So I'm not going to say what it is
Because I don't want her to...
Oh yeah, don't give her an advantage
I'm not going to give her any ideas
No
I don't know if anyone noticed this
But during the show
My replacement headphones showed up
So I very slyly changed them
You're not wearing the, right, the HyperX ones he had on a second ago.
Yeah, I had these on before.
And these are fine, but they're kind of my gaming headphones and they're not really,
they're kind of muffly for audio talking.
So I ordered these Sonys and they just got here.
So while we had Amy on, I switched over.
That's pretty fun.
Didn't even notice, man.
I know.
I was looking at tits on the moon, Scott, is the problem.
That was what I was busy doing.
Yeah, well, I can't blame you.
Let's get into the news here today.
We got a black bear in the news.
This is the actual animal, not people from Idaho.
I know.
We can make that joke.
I have friends in Idaho that are big gay bears, and I love them, and they know it.
Why Idaho?
I mean, you know, it's just a large gay man.
They have a big community up there.
They got a big community.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think they're just, I mean, I don't know that they have like conventions or anything.
But my friend Scott, who lives up there, who calls himself a bear, says the reason he moved to Idaho was because
it was this big, vibrant community of gay bears.
And I said, well, I'd love to come up there sometime and just meet some of your friends.
And he never wrote me back, so I don't know how I'm supposed to take that.
Okay, well, fair enough.
Maybe he thought I was up to something.
I don't know.
Anyway, this black bear is nothing to do with that.
He broke into a vehicle and guzzled 69 cans of soda.
Nice.
So look for caffeinated bear coming to theaters this fall.
Let's see. A woman on British Columbia's Sunshine Coast
had walked to a sticky situation last Thursday
when she found a bear with a sweet tooth had broken into her car
and crushed dozens of cans of soda
where she had left them overnight.
Sharon Rosal said when she was awakened by her dog at 3 a.m.
On Thursday, looked outside to see a black bear
surrounded by shattered glass from her car window.
Damn, dude.
And he was drinking massive amounts of soda,
says Roselle or Rosal.
I want to know what the soda was.
Was it jolt? Was it?
Yeah.
Uh, Coke zero? What was it?
What do you think a bear? What do you think a bear is like?
Oh, she says it's cola and root beer.
Oh, all right.
All right. And some soda, diet, so only stopped when it reached the diet soda. That's funny.
That's great. Oh, yeah. Started with orange soda.
Coal of root beer. It only stopped when it reached time.
Oh, this sucks. Gross. Um, it says she watched from her balcony for an hour and a half as the bear used its teeth to break open the cans and then slurped their contents while making a sweet mess of her car's interior. I'll bet.
sweet mess yeah this is pretty funny though you start with orange yeah you move to cola this
sounds like it's like the gateway drug is the orange soda then you go through the colas then you
got the root beer and then you stop when you get to diet because you're like the aftertaste
I guess exactly yeah I don't want kidney disease from the neutral sweet yeah I feel like I've
gotten I'm in a weird place where I've only drink zero and diet and diet only if I have to but
zero usually is my choice.
And it's gotten to the point where I can't tell the difference.
I don't actually know for sure.
So if I go to a restaurant and they do a fountain version, I oftentimes will taste and go,
I don't know.
Is this regular Coke?
Is this zero?
Yeah.
And so I'll make Kim try it.
She's like, oh, definitely diet or whatever.
And then I'm like, okay, I'm good.
But it's weird.
My tastes have just evolved to not care about that aftertaste.
It doesn't bother me at all.
Yeah.
Huh.
It's actually true of a lot of stuff like the chocolates that Chaco Mama makes for us.
Oh, yeah, because you get the sugar-free ones.
Yeah, and they used to taste weird to me.
Now they're chocolate to me.
I don't even know if I've had sugar-free chocolate.
I bet I'd notice it obviously since I'm just used to regular.
I'll bet you'd notice it.
Since I'm disciplined and can limit myself to one piece.
Yeah, you and your little bowls you'll bring to the thing and then you'll fill just enough, you know, so it's a perfect portion.
I don't know how you live.
I don't know how you do it.
We went right there.
See, look at that right there.
Yeah, let's take a look.
Oh, see?
Look.
See?
What are those, by the way?
Those are almond butter-filled pretzels.
Oh, my Lord.
That sounds good.
They are really good.
I've had the peanut butter ones, but almond butter?
Almond butter.
A little less sweet and balances out with the saltiness of the pretzel.
And the fact that I've got half a bowl sitting here and have had it sitting here since yesterday afternoon and all morning without refilling it is a testament.
Yeah.
to my self-discipline.
Unfortunately, what's going against the testament to my self-discipline is this giant
gut that I have underneath me.
That's the, for whatever reason, that might prove the rule.
This one proves the ancillary.
Yeah, I got you.
Well, good luck with your pretzels.
I will eat them if I see them.
They're making me thirsty.
They really would make me thirsty, and I'm very hungry now.
All right, a man has been found dead.
Okay, so this is a story about a dead man, just warning everybody.
Oh.
He was eaten by bedbugs.
Eaten by bedbugs.
Uh-huh.
Can you believe it?
I can't believe it.
Really?
It sounds unbelievable.
But that's what this says.
Let's find out more.
This is why he was...
Bitten by bedbugs, I 100% believe it.
Yeah, Bitten makes sense.
He was...
So he's in an Atlanta jail.
Speaking of Red Fragles hometown.
Sure.
An Atlanta man died in a jail after being eaten alive by bedbugs alleges his lawyer,
representing the man's family.
The family of LaShawn Thompson, H-35.
He is calling for a criminal investigation into Thompson's death for, sorry, for the closure and replacement of a local jail after alleging that Thompson died in custody from bedbugs in a squalid jail sale.
It says here they had placed him in the facility psychiatric unit after determining it some mental health issues, but notes he was otherwise physically healthy before going in there.
Their claim is that since the 13th September 22, three months after being arrested, he was discovered dead.
inside his decapitated, sorry, dilapidated cell covered in grime and insects.
The cell was so filthy that the employees wore a hazmat suit upon entering, according to the
Washington Post.
They left him there essentially, they said.
Let's see.
Then they had a plan to take him to the medical observation unit, but their plan never happened,
and they found him dead eaten by these bed bugs.
God.
Ugh.
Yeah, one of my clients that I do freelance work for regularly.
is a bedbug exterminator here in Denver.
And so I have folders of photos of what bedbugs look like
and what they're different, there's like six different stages
that they go through.
Really?
What is the first stage, so I know what to recognize.
Yeah, little eggs, little tiny, tiny eggs is the first stage.
Okay, that's wild.
Yeah, we're being visited by a kitty cat.
Hey, Anara, how you doing?
Well, she heard about bugs.
Straight about, ooh, bed bugs, yum.
But, yeah, the only way to really treat them is with heat, heat extermination.
So basically, you have to get all of the vinyl albums, photographs, paper products, and stuff out of your house.
And then they get some machines in there that crank the heat up to, like, 135 or 140 degrees or something.
Oh, my gosh.
And it just kills them instantly, gets rid of them.
Because if you use, like, sprays, insecticide, stuff like that, the bastards come back.
I don't know that I've ever seen them, so I wouldn't even know what I was looking at.
Yeah.
In this case...
Would you like your photo?
Yeah, send me one of your gross photos.
I'll put it up on the screen today.
I'll just send you a link to the website because the very first thing you see, actually you have two.
I'll send you the link to hotbugs.com.
Yes, I'm serious.
That is one of the sites.
Awesome.
Really hotbugs.com.
Hotbugs.com.
With Zee, even.
Whoa, this is...
Yeah, this is really cool.
He does, like, a membership service for people who own VRBOs and Airbnbs and assisted living facilities and stuff like that.
And so that bug in the background there, oh, I guess it disappears with the logo in front of it.
Shoot.
Did you give, here, let's see.
I put it in our Discord.
Oh, Discord, there it is.
Okay.
Let me pull it up here.
Take a look, chat room.
Oops, let's put it right there.
go away shoot yeah i need to maybe need to send you a different photos is that thing
for 80 bucks a year emergency priority services free video inspection services access to leading
bug experts compliance documentation man this is quite a deal it's a deal it's a deal it's a deal
and you made this you made this the site brian made yeah very nice well hot bugs gross me out
it's gross let me ask you this though so like if you um i'm trying to
Like a hotel room, it makes sense.
You have a pretty limited number of things that are made of paper.
Right.
Or something's going to buckle or burn or whatever.
So easy place to fumigate and get done.
Like a house house.
Like, I'd have to, oh my gosh, the stuff I have to do.
All of your files have to come out, your albums, your photographs, things like that.
And there's really no better way.
Like, this is as good as we have.
There's no, like, infrared.
This is, this is as close to 100% effectiveness as you're going to get.
All right.
Yeah.
So don't get bedbugs, people.
Just don't get bedbugs.
It's got some Dale dribble.
Gribble.
Gribble.
Gribble.
Gribble.
I don't know I said dribble.
Real quick here, they did say, so he did have an autopsy, and the cause of death is noted as extreme to severe infestation of small insects on his body.
So I guess if you have enough of this.
Yeah, I think I would agree that he probably was partially killed by the bedbugs.
they didn't I mean I don't know
eaten by bedbugs in the headline makes it sound like
all that's left are his bones
yeah yeah which I don't think happened
a voracious group of piranhas or something
yeah how much could a big bug eat really
they're gonna eat like I'm gonna find out they eat like 20 times
their body weight or something and right exactly
anyway the bottom line is don't
try not to have bed bugs if you can help it yeah there you go
that's probably the best the best solution how do they start
do is it just because things are dirty
they start because you get them from somewhere else like you you go to a really horrible hotel room or motel or something like that and then you just bring them back to your house so awful it is yeah my gosh it's a big worry like not a big worry but there's a little bit of a worry with with us here because Tina will with adult protective services she's frequently having to visit people who don't practice a lot of self-care yeah and so we actually have
the equivalent of an airlock in our garage where she can, you know, get rid of the shoes she was wearing, not get rid of, but like put the shoes she was wearing into a thing and we can hair dry heat them and stuff like that if we need to kill them. And, you know, she doesn't sit down on anything when she's in any of these places. Like basically her feet touching her, her shoes touching the floor, the only way that she goes into these places.
Well, I had a friend who worked for one of these cleanup places that the, that you call and they come.
And like if there was a death and they were there for three weeks, they come and take care of stuff.
Has teen ever had to go to a sight of like, oh, this guy died in his chair and he's been there for a month and none of that.
No, fortunately, as far as I know she hasn't, and maybe there's a story that she hasn't told me, but I think she would tell me if she.
That'd be a rough job.
There was, I mean, there was a story of a person that she had to help who basically stayed by his wife.
side and slipped in the same bed with her after she passed.
Oh, wow. She had passed. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, man, can you imagine that? Yeah. I can't even
imagine the night where you wake up and find out that the other one died. I know, I know. I'm,
I might be getting the story wrong, but, uh, something like that. It was just heartbreaking.
That is heartbreaking. Oh, yeah, anyway. I'm going to have Kim taxidermied.
Just, you know. You're going to put her bad.
the wheel of a driverless car.
Yeah.
Basically, just never, just still drive you wherever you needed to go.
Well, that way I get the, you know, I still get the benefits of the carpool lane.
And I can fall asleep 20 minutes into a ride.
It's all, it's all good in the hood.
I love, I love the chat room responses after you say something like that.
I know.
I mean, what do you guys expect?
You've been here long enough.
Yeah, come on.
Stupid shit's going to fall on my face.
Come on now.
Yeah, hello.
All right.
We got one more story here about an Alberta woman.
Alberta. Oh, that's Canada.
Kaneda!
It is.
The woman deliberately trying to get rid of 133,000 rum and butter chocolate bars.
So, hey, if you're all into that, I got good news.
There's a place for it.
Rum and butter chocolate bars.
Rum and butter. Speaking of sugar, geez.
Anyway, a few years ago, you couldn't buy rum and butter chocolate bars if you wanted to,
but now Crystal Regner, Westregard, has 103,000 of them,
give or take a few, she says.
The entrepreneur resurrected the old.
fashion candy in 2021, but thanks to pandemic production delays, she now has to get rid of several
pallets worth of these before they expire in June. So she's ready to eat the cost and let somebody
else eat the candy. She'd rather not spend more money just to let them go to waste. So if you want
to get a hold of her, I don't know how you'd do it. It's going to be really hard because she's
covered with butter. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be very hard to get a hold of her. I always wonder
about this. There's certain things that were being made up in until the pandemic that
just basically
crapped out for a bit
and then there was
a shortage of everything
and now there's
for a lot of companies
there's a glut of things
and I don't know
what you do when you have that
like in her case
it's a very physical thing
but I know there are people
with like you know
a lot of these layoffs
at Netflix and at Disney Plus
and all this were all about
because things getting back to normal
people are signing up less
to the services because they're not trapped
in doors and have no other option
but to watch entertainment
so I wonder you know
I wonder who else that
affects it didn't really affect businesses like ours you know like we're still making content and
and all that but anyway if you're a listener out there and you were like affected in that way
i'd just be curious to hear your story yeah i'm actually curious more about the rum and butter
chocolate bar this is not something even you know they say well a few years ago you couldn't buy
these i've never heard of these things ever and it looks like it's a very canadian thing like
even the it's cadberries and even on the label of the new version it says
Canadian candy nostalgia.
Oh, wow.
Rub and butter, so...
Wow.
Yeah.
I'm under Jeff,
we'll probably write in
and say,
oh, I was raised on this stuff or something.
Yeah.
Hey, Jeff, if you can find one,
bring it to...
Bring it to Vegas.
Yeah, we'd try it.
Yeah.
This says...
Oh, no, that's a different story.
Never mind.
I thought that was part of this.
It's not.
Okay.
Final story.
Vending machine in remote Japan
sells meat from intruding bears.
Oh, terrific.
More bear. We begin with the bears. We end with the bears. That's right. This is a bear sandwich. Check this out. A remote Japanese town is taken to selling bear meat from a vending machine, sourcing its supply to Asian black bears, or of Asian black bears, listed as vulnerable species, cotton traps or in the mountains by hunters. Bear attacks are an increasing problem in parts of rural Japan due to a shortage of food in the forest that brings the animals closer to inhabited areas. Quote, the bears can be dangerous when they come into town, so hunters will set traps or shoot them.
says Dal-Da-Shi-Sato, who placed the vending machine outside his Soba-Noodle shop near the railway station.
Asian black bears are listed as vulnerable, but not critically so.
So it is legal to eat bear in Japan.
Meat from trapped bears is tastier since the blood is drained immediately, according to him.
What?
Why is it drained immediately?
What?
Hold on.
I know, yeah.
Meat from trapped bear.
Is it because the bear is bleeding from the trap?
I guess caught in traps.
Yeah, so they just get caught in the trap and bleed out.
And it's like, oh, perfect, let's turn this.
And it doesn't even say, like, is it jerky or is it just like?
Like meat?
Vacuum sealed meat chunks, bear meat chunks.
Yeah, they don't actually, let's see, there is a quote.
Okay, bear meat isn't very common, so we want tourists to come visit our town to buy it.
That doesn't tell me.
It doesn't say what form it's in.
No.
I would think dried and cured or something.
I would think jerky as well.
Yeah.
So maybe it dries quicker because of.
the blood removal.
Let's see.
This is just foul.
Yeah, I know.
It's kind of gross.
And not because of the bear meat.
I mean, I would try bear jerky for sure, but just that whole like, oh, it's, you know,
it's really tasty because the blood drains immediately from their bodies.
That's right.
That's so good.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
Vending machines throughout Japan offer everything from drinks, snacks, surgical masks,
and more exotic fair, such as insects and whale meat.
So this isn't that unusual, I guess.
we don't do this here we should have more weird stuff in vending machines in america i agree yeah you know
Vegas does some of that but i want like a little bit yeah you can get mohe shandon champagne and
vending machine as a matter of fact i think the sand dollar even has a champagne vending machine
right and isn't that car dealership there that has the multi-story car thing you buy a car at the bottom
carvana we even have them here and uh we have one in denver as well oh i don't think we had do we
have i don't think we have one here maybe we just called carvana and what do you do there you don't
gamble on which car you're getting, right? It's not like a slot machine. But you, I don't know how
the whole thing works as far as like being able to finance it. Like do you do it all online before
you go and then you just show up there and say, I'd like a E7 and it just lowers down to what
you need. No idea. That's crazy. It is a weird thing though because it's like this tower. I want
to see it actually operating when somebody gets a car out of the, out of the, out of the
Carvona.
Yeah, I've never seen that.
I wonder if we could catch that
just by being near there or something.
I'll bet, yeah.
Okay, I found some packaged meat.
This is what it looks like.
I'll put it in Discord.
Okay.
All right.
I bet it's not going to be as good looking as that rum and butter chocolate
bar.
No, it will not.
That is a beautiful looking thing right there.
Oh, so really you're getting raw bear meat.
Yeah.
Well, you're, so you can't, this isn't like a typical vending machine
where it pops out of the machine, open the package,
start numb, numb, numb, no.
This is like, all right, well, now you've got to take it home and cook it.
Unless that's somebody else's bear.
meat. And that does look frozen, I think.
It does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that chill packet behind it. So, yeah. That makes sense, I guess,
because the weird stuff they put in their vending machines, uh, probably a lot of it needs
refrigeration. I don't know. Here's that butter bar. Look at that thing Brian put up. Oh,
you guys. Isn't that gorgeous? I want to eat that. It looks really flat, like a, um,
not rollo. What are the, the, the similar to rollo like it's just chocolate with a, with a caramel
filling, but in this case it's rum and butter
filling, but... What is that called? Caramello? Caramello.
So like a caramelo, they got run over by a car.
Is what that looks like.
By a carvana car. Wow. It all comes back. It all comes back. Bears, cars. Look at us.
All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister will be here.
We have an audio version of an email we got. And we're going to do that today.
So stick around. Brian, we need a break song, though. Do you have a little something?
We could do. A little break song. I got a little break song. I got a little break
song, Scott. This one
big thanks to
let's see, RK record kicks
or just record kicks and pavement public
relations. The
Soul Funk Quartet, the Sex Tones
have a brand new studio album
that's going to be coming out
this later, much later this year.
My gosh, much later this year, September.
But this is the first single
from that album and
it's awesome. So if you like Monophonics,
Kelly Finnegan, Duren Jones
and the Indications, and these sacred
souls you'll like this. From the album
Love Can't Be Borrowed. Here is the first
single, Better Late Than Never.
I believe that you
still love me.
It's better.
late they never
I believe I believe that you love me
Why did you stop calling
Why don't you pick up the phone
You and I you won't know till we try
There's a good thing that'll pass you by
It's better
Late than never
you still love me
My baby
It's better
Late than never
I believe I believe that you love me
I hope you keep on waiting
I'll be gone
Come tomorrow
Stop wasting all my time
Because a good thing will pass
You by
Yes a good thing will pass you by
Yes, a good thing
We'll pass you by
It's better
Lake than never
I believe that you still love me
Better
Nothing
Never
I believe
I believe that you love me
My baby
Make up your eye
Oh
Show me the reasons why
words because a good thing will pass you by because a good thing will pass you by
better think you never I believe that you still love me my baby better better than
And never
It's never
Too late
It's never too late
Never hate
And never
And never
Never
And never
And never
And never
Don't let it
It ain't
No
I'll ask you about
Never
Never
Never
There's a special opening just in front of the place where you have your B.M.
God damn it.
The morning stream.
I've only got one gun.
That's six bullets.
They're six.
That's 36.
Maybe that's they've got two guns.
That's 372 bullets.
Maybe they've got rifles.
you never know where that guy's going oh my cow welcome back everybody hey tell me again where i can get that
music there sure from the upcoming album love can't be borrowed those are the six tones feels like
we've had quite the theme on today's show especially with that uh dating audio clip about the special
opening uh anyway uh that's uh the song better late than never yeah that sounds uh great i haven't heard
this song yet or you know what i should i should lie to the people at home boy i've heard that
song. It's really good. Is that great that we just heard? Oh, we can't believe we just finished hearing.
What a great song that was. I do feel confident that I'm going to like it, though. I do feel
confident. Yeah. Because Brian rarely brings a song I don't like. I can't think of one where I try to
bring the best milkshakes to the yard. Yeah. And you're like they're better than yours or something.
Exactly. Wendy is on her way, I believe here. Let's see. Yep, we're adding her to the call.
And we're going to get started with this week's Therapy Thursday. If indeed.
I can find the place to push the button.
Okay, here we go.
All right, we're ringing, we're ringing, we're ringing.
Wendy.
I mean, random.
Not a chance.
Hey, look who it is.
It's my sister Wendy.
She is all the way over there in Minnesota.
Oh, correction.
By the way, yesterday had said, or I had attributed to what's his name,
senatorship for Massachusetts, and it's not.
It was Minnesota.
Al Franken.
Yeah, everybody, I got like 50 emails going,
It was Minnesota, not Massachusetts.
It was just a slip of the tongue.
Hey, Scott, when I lived in Europe, which country did I live in?
You lived in the United Kingdom as where you were.
Okay.
There was another country.
I was speaking Sweden.
Oh, Sweden.
Sorry, I thought you meant before that.
Yes, Sweden.
Yeah, yeah.
You're supposed to say Switzerland.
Remember you got that wrong?
Oh, you used to do that wrong.
Yeah.
Massachusetts, Minnesota.
I get it.
It's hard.
It's hard to remember these things.
Sure.
Um, hey, uh, speaking of Sweden, I saw the weirdest.
There are some, you know who are, you know who some of the weirdest filmmakers are?
They're all in Sweden.
Yeah.
Did you see Triangle of Sadness?
Uh, not yet.
Is that, Brian did?
You liked it, right?
I did.
Wow.
What a great three movies that was.
It was three movies.
And I literally had to close my eyes because I was getting so nauseous.
I'm guessing from that middle.
Yeah.
That middle scene.
Yeah.
The middle movie.
Yeah.
The middle film.
I've heard a lot about that.
Yeah, you should see it.
What did you see, Scott?
I don't remember the name of the thing.
The square?
No.
It was one of those, what did I see recently from a, I don't remember, but I remember being very
off put by it.
That movie where the guys decide that their brain power works better if they just stay in an inebriated state throughout the day.
It's got Mads-Mickleson in it.
Oh, yeah, that had a lot of buzzmen.
It did. It got something for an Oscar nomination. I think Best Original Screenplay, maybe. But that was, I think that's also Swedish. And that was great. I avoid anything by that. A friend of a friend. A friend of a friend is a, has a PhD in Swedish film. And you're like, that's not real. And when you watch a couple of Swedish films, you're like, oh, no, you could have a PhD in this. Because there's some breath and depth that are terrifying. Yeah.
It's the guy who did the human centipede.
I don't know his name.
Oh, geez.
Think he's from over there?
I think that's right.
I don't know.
I'd stayed away from those movies.
You're right to do it.
You're right to do it.
The only good version...
I'll just be Tosh 2.0's description of it was plenty.
The best thing to come out of that was the South Park episode where...
Oh, no. Cuddlefish!
I should not have had the cuttlefish!
It was so good.
Anyway, well, forget about all that.
We got an email for Wendy, who is a real therapist.
She helps people all the time with their problems, and she comes
here and does it for free for you,
chuckleheads,
and she'll be in Vegas next year, next year, next week,
which will be great because a lot of these people
have never met Wendy first hand,
and now they're going to get to.
So that's exciting.
Yay.
Yeah.
Plus you got a bunch of your real steps,
regulars and all that.
Yes.
And Amy and I are going to put together
a little gathering, I hope,
during some moment.
Oh, very nice.
I'd look to hear that.
That's great.
A little free therapy for our TEDPoolers,
or as we like to call it,
how was your entire day with Claire?
Yeah.
How did your Claire day go?
that's right you haven't met claire yet claire love you i'm excited me claire yeah when the shows when the thursdays happen where you're not here or we don't have a thing she gets like visibly upset in our chat room about not being here yeah it's not like stockery or anything but she likes no no no no yeah she just likes us yeah well anyway that's all coming up but uh for today i got this uh this here email that i'm going to present to you in the form of the spoken word all right so here it here it is this is today's therapy thursday question
How do I know if my therapist just kind of sucks?
I've been having sessions with this guy for just over two years now.
At first we use video calls, but I found it's easier for me to stay focused just on the phone,
partially because he's so damn quiet that the video calls felt super awkward to me at times,
just staring at each other.
When I stop talking, he will often stay completely silent even for literal minutes at a time,
which feels like ages in the moment.
I know he's paying attention and that he's not even muting himself during those silences.
And sometimes it's okay to have that time to reflect or be forced to pause and really hear my inner monologue.
He's never given me homework or things to reflect on for our next session.
If I don't have specific topics to discuss, he will almost never help get things going.
He's never once done any exercises or asked me to talk to my foot when I contrast his personality to yours, Wendy.
It is hard to imagine you're even in the same profession.
Do I just need to find someone new?
I can say that our talks have helped me from time to time, and when he does provide me insight, it feels valuable, but it is few and far between.
It took me six plus months to find someone that was accepting new patients, start of the pandemic, and I really don't want to go through that again.
But I can't help but feel I'm not getting what I could out of my time and money.
I had to go out of network to even find someone.
Love the show, though.
Shwagp.S. I think he's a Jungian, if that means anything.
Does that mean anything?
Was that AI that read that?
Yes.
That was really good AI reading.
Even like the intonations and asides in parentheses.
Like when he said, Wendy, that was freaky.
When I contrast his personality to yours, Wendy, it's really hard to imagine.
You're even the same profession.
Yeah.
No, it is freaky.
And you have this slider on this thing that can make it more conversational like that or less.
So you can have it be more like an audiobook straight read or you can have them be.
he'll even do goofs like he'll
I didn't do it in this one but you can have
sometimes real mispronounce a word and then correct himself
oh wow you mean he'll do a Scott
he'll do a Scott yeah
he'll do a Scott anyway that's
that was interesting
that was creepy so that's actually from a real person
of course what is a Jungian I don't know what that means
oh yes you mean psychology is that right
yeah very good all right Brian do you know much
about it no I know that
wasn't he the basis of like
the the synchronicity
like the police album synchronicity is influenced or was a homage to Jungian stuff.
Yeah.
You know your stuff.
Very good.
All right.
That's my only connection.
Because of course it is.
Because that's great.
That's a great connection.
Yeah.
He is a Swiss psychiatrist.
He's think of like the answer to Freud.
you know, you can't just have like one god of the beginning of things.
So his stuff was, you know, kind of tilted the world on its head a little bit.
And yeah, so, you know, they were influencing each other and he was younger than Freud.
And so, you know, but I had a big impact on him and some of the work he's done.
So anyway, that, a big piece of that is just like a different way of looking at things.
By the way, we've renamed our three sons, super ego, ego, and id.
Because that's exactly how they operate.
One is so worried about everyone else.
The other one is full of himself.
And then the other one is just whatever is fun.
So anyway, that's kind of, that's Freud's work of just people are operating on these impulses
and these sort of innate, instinctual, you know, the drive for sex and survival and, you know, your mother or whatever is.
is right so it's all the all the things and that you know was kind of the main way of thinking about a
lot of um the mental world and then yun came along and has a very different view of the self
sure um and it's a little nicer right it's a little less yeah people are terrible less extreme
did you did you expect that by the way the Freudian makeup of your children uh right it's it's a
kind of a deep irony that you're you know you're in this this business in this industry this
whatever, this practice and your kids are, like, these perfect versions of those three.
Yeah, they are.
Is that, no.
Yeah.
Did you, I mean, I guess I didn't think like it.
And I didn't even come up with it.
Just Adam said it the other day.
He's like, yeah, it's super ego, ego and it.
And I'm like, oh, my gosh, you're right.
That is great.
I do love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, they're all going to be fine.
Yeah.
That's how we have to talk about.
No, I think, too, you've got this sort of like.
Freud is, think of it as, I don't know, you guys, I probably have a video game version of this, Pong.
Freud is Pong, right?
Like, it's the beginning.
All right.
And the systematizing.
Obviously, there were folks before him doing work and people, you know, trying to drill holes in heads to try to stop stuff from happening or whatever.
But, you know, he really is foundational in the teaching of it and the practice of psychiatry and clinical work.
And, you know, so that's why he's so famous, right?
and he said some stuff that it's easy to quote and think about right um and so ever since
people have been branching off and doing different things so jung is great he talks a lot about
and this might be in that song brand i don't know uh but about the shadow and we've talked about
that in the show before you guys remember that the shadow self kind of the idea that it does talk about
synchronicity too they talk about the the shadow on the door of a cottage by a Scottish lock
it's in reference to the shadow self yeah interesting so they are union fans for sure
stinging is young yeah but the you the young thing isn't necessarily mean dude on other
line staring at you for a minute without saying anything like this this isn't part of that
i'll get to that okay so kind of this idea that um you know you can well okay so there's a couple
factors things you want out of you mean psych psychotherapy and that is this there's a concept
called the active imagination.
This thing you guys all have, and I don't have, remember?
You all?
Active imaginations.
And the idea is using imagination, fantasy, dreams, meditation,
a lot of dream work specifically in uni and stuff.
And that that is what will bring the unconscious, unconscious into the present, right?
So Freud had a lot of, like, the unconscious drives everything.
And think of this as like taking that kind of idea and allowing...
space and in this client's case quiet um for some of this stuff to emerge for the unconscious
to emerge right so that is you know sometimes it's direct observation of something they think
about or they dream and sometimes it's not intended kind of thing um and then the other piece of
this is well and then the belief is there's a collective unconscious that's maybe early days of
talking about that at least in western thought um anyway uh the other
thing being individuation, it's this process or this goal that people will progress and that
they'll, you know, sort of learn how to stop self-sabotaging and, you know, manage conflict
and do some different things as they become more individuated, but allowed to be their unique
self, you know, that kind of thing. So there's a couple more things to this, but and and really just
the idea of the shadow real quick, because I brought that up.
is kind of this idea that you've got things in your unconscious or you're not fully aware of
that are sort of the dark parts of things and you are ashamed of them or hide them
and there's some really strong mental influences to keep that out of your purview.
So I always picture it as like dragging a stinky black garbage bag behind you.
You can't see it.
You're not fully aware of it, but it's, you know, got the cartoon stinky stuff coming out.
Stink lines, yeah, full of stuff.
And it comes out sideways in your life, right?
So we talk about hypocrisy sometimes of like someone says this thing, you know,
they're writing anti-LGBQ legislation and then they're caught, you know, whatever.
Oh, it happens all the time lately, especially.
Yeah, 100%.
Right.
So shadow work, and as you'll hear that term used a lot, is really working on bringing
some of that stuff to your consciousness, being able to.
integrate that into you're a whole person, not just, you know, I'm a good or bad, you know,
kind of reorganizing some of that. And then it has less ability to be coming outside.
Sometimes it's, you know, so bringing you more into a state of health rather than bifurcated
into these distinct parts. So there's lots of things they do in order to do that. Now, what
sounds like it's happening with this guy? So first of all, let me say something to be clear.
If this guy is actually a Jungian analyst, he has extensive training.
This is not someone who's like, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to say I'm Jungian and I'm going to be quiet.
It's just, yeah, that's something you're just doing a whim.
No, this is a big deal.
Now, if he just says he's Jungian, people can say like that's an influence,
but someone who is an actual Jungian analyst goes through their own analysis, which takes a long time.
And psychoanalysis also takes a long time.
like year upon year processes.
And a lot of people get a lot of benefits from this and that space and the quiet and
sitting with someone and letting them do some of that work, there is value to that.
I just don't know if it fits everyone.
Like, clearly it probably doesn't.
It would, I mean, I should try it to see if I would like it, but I kind of think I'd hate it.
I don't know.
But it's just one of, there's a variety of kinds of therapy that,
that people do and that is one and this is not one that's a joke right it really is very trained
very extensive and there's purpose to it and why he's not leading him in anything is that is part of
the point so um that is where the belief is that you know that full individuation and integration
and stuff happens not the therapist gets to dictate what you do over the next week to try to
improve because that would be inserting the therapist in the role of I'm in charge or I'm the
one who knows what you need and that's the thing.
Whereas a lot of us and probably just popular culture too is just like my therapy therapist
told me this and it's we see it as a guide or a coach or someone who's like going to point out
some things but is also really good at listening.
You know, so I think we have a little, a different view of that than we do of maybe the
original psychoanalysis type stuff that you have with Freud and Jungian-based stuff.
Okay.
It's just a different stroke.
Just a different, different methods.
So let me ask you this, though.
Like, this sounds impossible.
I don't know how a therapist can sit there and just like not say anything.
Like I just watch basically.
How do you do that?
That seems crazy because that's like I understand if you're observing a monkey in a cage or
something, right?
But if you're talking to another human being, I would have to fill that error.
I just dog can.
And what it, and basically, is it like one, one method that applies to everything or it's like, okay, they've got this situation going on.
I need to sit back and let them work through it themselves and not interrupt and let them.
Yes. Yes.
But it's not applied across the board to every problem that they have or every problem that somebody could have.
So, so for example, it's applicable to a lot of different things.
But if you are like actively suicidal, no, this is not going to be helpful.
Yeah, better speak up.
yeah yeah um and so that's i mean they may argue someone who does this may argue no it's exactly
what somebody needs who's actively suicidal i don't know exactly i feel like nobody ever listens to me
and then i don't ever get any response can you help me out right right right right and so so for
example like a certain kind of like they've studied this right they've looked to see um and we've got
lots of examples of
like it is really helpful with certain
things and so let me see if I found a list
also like children's therapy
play therapy is basically
Jungian so you may have heard of sand tray
therapy before no
that's new to me I've never heard of that oh
it's so cool do you say sand
tray is that right? A big sand
tray yeah so it's usually
up on something so they're standing
and the therapist is with them
and there's a room full of boys
on the wall, just every little thing you can imagine of, every kind of thing. And the person does not,
the therapist does not direct the child to do anything. The child comes in, sees the toys,
picks the toys, all of the toys have, you know, they're pretty loaded in terms of there's a
catapult and there's a, you know, there's, and then in the tray, they build whatever scene they're
going to build. And so I've, I've done a little san tray therapy back when I used to work with kids.
and then I've observed quite a bit
and it's just fascinating
as kids are working through some of their
so I've worked a lot with kids with grief
and sort of traumatic attachment stuff
and they would build an entire world
and be attacking this one dinosaur
and really the dinosaur represented
their mom who was unstable
and on drugs and coming in and out of their life
and so they needed an army to protect that
you know like it just it's like watching
somebody
I mean, watching a child use their play
in order to work through the stuff they're going through.
And again, you've got an active therapist attention.
You do not have them directing.
So it can be very, and very effective for kids.
It's really great.
Let's see.
So some of the other stuff, just general responses to this kind of therapy
can be improvement in different ways.
And so if I was going to talk to this guy, I'd say, okay, what did you go in for?
And then what is, like, have you seen improvements in where?
You know, just are you feeling better about different things?
Do you feel like your depression has gone down?
So it's used in all sorts of ways.
I think there is a few places it's probably not great for maybe schizophrenic things or, you know, bipolar maybe.
I mean, I don't know the exact numbers on, but I think, you know, it's, it's,
Efficacy is proven in a lot of different things for a lot of different ways.
However, it's very cost prohibitive and time prohibitive.
It's really hard to say, what you got?
Five years for me? Cool.
And you can, you know, like that's a tricky thing to be asking.
And so insurance has played a huge role in what is available and covered for a lot of mental health care, unfortunately.
And you can understand why on one hand, right?
Like, how do we pay for this for infinity and how do we know if you're better?
So we got really into efficacy and, you know, evidence-based treatment.
So that's why CBT became this kind of the end-all be-all for a good chunk of time there
because it was more measurable.
It's homework.
It's directive.
It's changing people's thoughts.
So they feel better.
And so you could measure that.
They could do short brief therapy and find it effective.
So less than 12 sessions, et cetera, et cetera.
So like any field, there's always.
innovation and people do different things and a lot of people will mix a bunch of stuff.
But it sounds like he got a Jungian therapist, an analyst who is doing exactly what they're
meant to do. And so I would check first, do you, where do you feel these improvements,
if any? And if you really are not, then yeah, you probably need something else. You could also
ask directly, like, hey, do you want to help me understand what I'm supposed to be experienced?
you can ask some questions, or you can, you know, obviously Google and read about
Jungian therapy specifically. If you want to try something else, that's not a bad thing either.
I had a client who had a really pretty world famous clinician working with him, and he decided,
he's like, this isn't what I need right now. I need to work with a woman because some of my
issues are related to sort of Me Too stuff and some issues he had, specifically.
and he needed kind of process that with a woman.
So he moved to my practice.
And as we were working through stuff,
I was a different style, of course,
but I'm also representing some stuff that he needed help with specifically.
And that's what he said to me.
But I said, well, how did you end it with your last therapist?
Like, how did that go?
And he said, well, the guy was like, you're not done.
You're going to regret this.
And he was just like, all right, chill, but I need a woman.
And you're not.
And so, anyway, it didn't end on.
like the greatest note. But his therapist wasn't wrong. He was not done. But he also knew something
about what he needed. By the way, he's done now. He's good because we went really deep on some
things he needed about his mom, about his life. Like it was something that other therapists couldn't
provide. It just can happen. Just like a doctor can only do so much for you. Sometimes the extent of
the framework that therapist is using and or their personality, you might just run into the limit
of that care.
And so that's okay, right?
In fact, I always tell people, if you are not feeling it and you don't want to tell
this person all the things, then, you know, you might want to try something else.
Give it a good college try and then, you know, really think about because there's no rule.
You've got to just keep doing a thing that isn't, you don't find helpful, right?
However, I do understand the idea that this is hard to find somebody and it's hard to switch
and all of those things.
Telling your whole story to someone else can be really daunting.
And every therapist knows this, right?
We know that that is what you're worried about.
And so, yeah.
So is it for a, for a industry, I keep saying industry,
for a practice or for a whatever, for your world that you're in?
I guess that's an industry.
One that is usually billed hourly, right?
That's the standard.
It seems like techniques, even if they're superior or, I don't know,
markedly better, that take longer are going,
to be prohibitive just in that one way, right?
Because we're, until we end up with a society that really values mental health and we start, you know, making, making it more affordable and or more accessible for regular people to get it or whatever, it just seems like if you said to me, like if you said to me, hey, do you want this therapist over here that takes forever, but you might have better results in the long run or this one that's going to be quick every week and you're going to have homework where that time's not being on the clock and, you know, that sort of thing.
You're probably going to go with the second, right?
that seems bad or it seems the quick solution rather than the long than the expensive one yeah yeah and and what's tricky is that nothing is a guarantee for anything right we can show some efficacy and we can show some improvement but we're not following people five years down the road and having controlling all the factors that may affect their mental health like it's hard there's a reason you know that I love when people are like I'm into hard science it's not soft
sciences. I was like, well, if you could figure out how to make a soft science as measurable as a
hard science, I'd love to see you try that, right? It's just so much harder in order to manage
because people are people and they're going to go live their life and you can't control them like
you can something in a lab, right? And so it's going to vary. I think a good litmus test,
I think it's maybe my bias for myself personally is like, how am I feeling and doing, right? You can
tell me all day long that this thing is going to be better for me, but it's going to take three
years. And then this shorter, I mean, that's part of it, right? Is immediate relief relief is
usually what matters. Now, if you have the time, the money, and the wherewithal, do pick a
union analyst. That sounds like a blast to figure that out. But that's also because I'm weird.
And whereas most people just would want to feel better. So if you're not feeling better with the
care that you're getting, you know, maybe work that through with your therapist that you're
already talking to. You can talk about that. That's part of what you're, you're experiencing,
right? And then there's, like I've shared on this show before, you know, go to psychology today.com,
put your zip code in, put your insurance in, you know, put the, you know, unclick the union
analyst filter and try a new one, right? So talking to your foot,
So let's, let's talk about the things he mentioned that are specific to what I did.
I was going to say, I think that was a reference we were talking about when talking to your gut and tuck to your foot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And of course, Scott, it's his foot.
Yeah, it was my foot.
Anyway, yeah.
So that, that, I'm, of course, I'm doing a public show of it.
It's not like, exactly what you would be doing in real life with a therapist.
But this idea, this is internal family systems is one of the frameworks that I operate from because I found it to be incredible.
incredibly effective and I use that with other things that I already do. And so there's a
combination of things. And I am more directive. In fact, I have to warn everyone like, hey,
if you want the Jungianalyst, I'm not it. And now, of course, I'll listen and of course I will
hear you and, you know, be with you. But I'm also about a little more activity based is my bias.
So I just own it from the outset. And 100% of people that come to me get referred from someone
else who says this is active-based and they know it coming in. So they're, I rarely have anyone
say, yeah, you're making me work too hard or something. Yeah. I need to, I need just to chill.
And because there's plenty of mix, right? There's a lot of glisting and a lot of other things, too.
But so you may find that it's just time for you to feel like you're, you want to be a little
more actively engaged, right? And so great, do that. So IFS is is a really self-directed, cool version of
And then, you know, CBT is way more therapist directed.
And, you know, really like you can't be trusted with your own thoughts.
Let me tell you how to change them.
Right.
And sometimes that is absolutely necessary and really helpful and saves lives.
So it kind of, you can kind of pick and choose what you want.
So, I mean, if this person wants to email me, I'd be happy to talk about different types and things that, what they're needing.
So, for example, if someone emails me and just says, hey,
this is what I'm struggling with, I kind of already have a sense like, yeah, you might,
this methodology might be best for you, especially if it's acute or something else, right?
Right. So there's all that. And it's hard. It's hard to know. And as, you know,
therapy becomes more ubiquitous and more people talk about it and it feels like stigma,
you're not always fighting against stigma, then there comes the, like, quality, right? It matters.
And there are people who have terrible experiences with therapy.
and it's not typically because of the modality it's typically because the mismatch with the person
or the therapist isn't it's a good time it's a good reminder that they are in the end they're just
another they're another person yeah and they're going to have expertise and all that but they're
but they may have personality quirks that just you don't mesh with yeah have you have you have
you you're pretty easy but you probably run into somebody where it was just different enough
where you're like, yeah, it's probably not a good match.
Yeah, and I'm at this stage that my self-worth does not depend one bit on if someone wants
to work for me or not.
And I can, so I can say, you know, this isn't like it's quite working.
Let's talk about it.
And then I have an ethical obligation to refer them to someone else, right?
Like, I help them with that process.
Most people have self-selected me already.
And so I run into that a lot less because I'm not just being handed patients every day.
Like, if I worked in a clinic, I would.
just be assigned people, they might say, oh, she's very good at working with trauma. So they send
traumatized patients. And that's when, you know, all of my years of doing that, sometimes it just
would not click. And then it was, oh, it's everyone, it's a waste of everyone's time. Now, a
Jungian analyst, it doesn't matter if you click. Yeah. Because they're such an absent part of that
process, but they do need to be awake and focused and listening and doing all the work that
they've done. I mean, they're, they're kind of superheroes in my mind. Like, that is a hard
thing to do. And they obviously see great value in it and have done it themselves. A lot of us do
not do the exact same treatment we offer, whereas those guys absolutely do, right? Yeah. So I think,
you know, sort of leading, and this is what's hard with mental health in general, especially
if you're in crisis. It is self-directed seeking of care, right? And that,
That is hard when you are not feeling well.
It's hard to get out of bed and they should be like,
oh, let me make 40 phone calls and interview all these people, right?
It is, it's, the system's got to change in some ways.
In fact, there's a couple new things out there that are interesting
because, you know, innovation and all that.
So, for example, Adobe is a big company there in Utah, right?
Yeah, well, they're based in California,
but they have a huge office out here, yeah.
Right.
I just know about that there specifically because of the people I know that work.
have this benefit. It's called Spring Health. It's just a company that does basically like
your giant company works with them. And what it means is like someone's having trouble or
needs a psychiatric intervention or appointment or a therapy or something. And they just do
it quick, right? They hook them right up because of course the health insurance is already
connected. And within a couple days, they have an evaluation. They have care. Right. So they
they've figured out a way to eliminate one of our biggest hurdles to people accessing care
is time and finding it themselves and seeing if it works with your insurance.
I mean, we have this with the medical care too.
It's just less sort of, you know, I don't even know, was it the 80s?
We were like begging health insurance to cover any of it, you know?
It's a short little history of it not being awesome.
So anyway, so some innovation has come about.
there's online psychiatric care and you know clinical interventions things that just didn't exist
10 years ago yeah yeah so we're sort of tackling some of that um which is cool yeah it is cool
well uh listener if you want to email windy directly about some of that stuff you mentioned yeah
you certainly can but uh it sounds sounds to me like maybe he's just i don't know he needs it
he probably needs a change this all sounds a little hard i don't know if i could sit there for three
minutes with nothing.
I know.
And I promise you, there are people who would fill every single second of them just talking.
Yeah.
So they will just work.
They're going to be working through some things.
And sometimes people just need to be listened to, right?
It actually would work for me because if I do any sort of long drive, like hour plus drive
and there's nobody else in the car, I feel like I'm talking to myself the whole time.
And I might actually, you know, you could just freeze frame a therapist on the other side
at the Zoom. And I'd probably save a ton of money and work all my all my shit out.
I love it.
Let's just get a picture of like a really soothing looking calm human.
Yeah. On your phone.
Yeah.
At about 20 minutes in, I would start talking to my foot.
Yeah.
That's the rule.
That's the rule.
Well, that's awesome.
I didn't, I also learned something.
I never heard of this dude before, this Noonian person or this new, you know, sorry, Jung.
Jung.
It's spelled J-U-N-G.
There you have it.
Yeah, he's great.
In fact, there's a deep work is a book, I think, Cal Rippincourt.
That's not his last name.
I made that up.
Cal Ripping Court.
Something with a port.
Anyway, about, you know, just working deeper.
We tend to all work surface ways, and it's problematic for our well-being.
It really is.
And so he actually shares when Jung was, Jung had a really busy medical practice.
He had a wife.
He had life kids in the city.
I think he was in Geneva or Austria.
I forgot where he was.
And so he built this like stone house in the countryside woods, like, you know, really pretty dark and didn't sound like very inviting.
Anyway, and he would just leave and go to this house and just write and do his deep work.
And so we would not have people, if you cannot find space and time to have deep work, we would not have Carl Jung.
That's true.
Just this idea of, like, you know, thinking and going deeper and, like, his history is pretty interesting.
And a lot of people you might find as you scratch the surface around, like, that music you were talking about with Sting, that there's a lot of fans and followers of you.
In fact, I mean, a lot of nerd stuff too.
You guys maybe don't realize as young.
Yeah.
I can see that.
So you should get to know him.
Get to know you.
Get to know young.
Yeah.
He did a little bit of LSD research as well for a while there.
I don't know why I upset that.
Who hasn't in this place?
Yeah, who, I mean, who's not on LSD right now?
Who is not doing LSD on this call?
On this call.
Well, this is great.
Wendy is always awesome.
And I'm personally excited just because I get to see my sisters in Vegas.
But I know everybody else is pretty jazzed about it as well.
So yeah, that'll be fun next week.
And it's supposed to be nice, like 82 degrees when we get there.
Oh, wow.
It's going to be hot and melting.
Schedule some pool time.
I don't have any clothes.
What am I going to do?
I have the same problem.
You know, that's not a problem on Fremont Street.
It is a problem on the script.
Yeah, Saturday night on Fremont, you'll fit right in.
You'll do great.
I got 40,000 sweaters, you know.
I'm not prepared.
But it's going to be fun.
So we'll try to do a real step thing.
We'll reach out to people so they kind of know.
Awesome.
And then you guys have me doing stuff, right?
I'm going to be on a panel.
Yeah.
Oh, believe me.
You got stuff.
You got plans.
Brian, are you going to make me play a video game?
No.
Oh, gosh, no.
No, but if you want to go to that arcade thing on, you may be gone by then.
When you guys leave?
How late you is that?
Thursday.
Oh, yeah, you'll be around for the video game tournament.
We're going to this video game tournament where it's all old games like Dad used to have.
Oh, that's so fun.
It is fun.
You should go to that.
Kim just sits at a booth in gaps with all her buddies from the event.
But Brian and I actually compete and we got, I don't know, how many people are competing?
It's like 60.
64.
I think I have 61 names in there
and I just added three
Oops, I forgot to sign up
names, so we'll have 64.
So Wendy, if you're old like
Battlezone or the Missile Command
Let me just tell you that I'm really good at those games.
I thought you're going to make me great modern games.
No, these are old classics.
No, no, no.
We'd love to have.
And she's very competitive, Wendy is.
She would be very cool.
Here's the thing.
There is this place.
If you ever come to Minneapolis, anyone,
it's called Can Can Wonderland.
And it was like an old, you know, industrial building that they've retrofitted.
And it is full of old video games.
You pay 10 bucks and you can come play for as long as you want.
And more pinball machines than I've ever seen in my life.
But it has 100-year-old games.
Like wooden, the first race car driving game is wooden.
I can't even describe it.
That sounds awesome.
It's the craziest thing.
It's super, super fun.
And then old mechanical, pre-pinball stuff.
And I'm awesome at the old.
ones. I'm really good at old things.
So you'll like this then.
Yeah, I think you should come in there.
Even if you don't compete, I want you to play
joust or something and blow our minds with your prowess.
That would be so fun.
Have a fantastic week.
RealSteps.org, everybody, if you want to hear about
or study up on what that's all about, Wendy, have a great week.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
Have a safe flight from the Twin Cities, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
That's what we hope.
All right, check this out.
We're done, but I want to mention a couple upcoming things.
you already mentioned today. Coverville, 1 p.m. Mountain Time.
One p.m. Mountain Time. Bicycle. Bicycle.
Of course, that song will be part of it.
I would assume so. Switch.com. TV slash Coverville.
Yep. So get in there. Get that done.
Tonight, Core, 5 p.m. Mountain Time.
Me, John Bo. We've got a big show today.
And we won't be missing next week. We're just going to push it to Friday.
So after I get back from Vegas, we'll have a core.
So that'll be fun.
It should be a new diary episode today.
And also tomorrow, Couch Party Live will be
the first half of Vegas vacation.
Correct.
And then two,
I think two weeks later, we'll see the final half.
That's right.
It'll be, you know, it'll be a Vegas sandwich.
We'll have Vegas Vacation Part 1,
Vegas, and then Vegas Vacation Part 2.
I can't think of any better way to support our trip than this.
So anyway, that's tomorrow.
That'll be at 10 a M. Mountain for those who are not aware.
If you are a patron, then you're in.
If you are not able to be there and you're still a patron,
we put up the video now so you can see you later and there's audio as well so watch for that
a big thanks to all our patreon people for making that possible patreon.com slash tms is the place to go
we'll learn all about the benefits of joining us over there and do it today that'll do it for us
let's get out of here with a song what do you got toots mcclaren wrote in what i want to hear
toots on the moon toots t ootts wow uh hi brian finally after three years my birthday lands on an
episode day.
Hopefully my request is chosen to play a cover of the cult.
It's difficult to find a good one.
Firewoman by Jizzy Pearl will do.
If you don't know of a better one,
here's to me turning 52.
Cheers, mate.
Oh my gosh.
Let's party.
Grats, welcome to the club.
And sorry, this is a couple days late.
We had a ton of requests for this week.
And so I had a, it's a couple days late, Tuts,
but I hope you'll forgive me for that.
It's just fun saying Tuts.
It is fun saying toots, right?
Yeah.
I feel like it's such an old term.
We don't get to say it the way people used to say it.
So it's fun to have someone's name where we can actually have a chance to dig that thing out.
Exactly.
Or if you're an old jazz musician, then it would be pronounced toots.
Ah, Toots, Mootts blowing that horn.
Oh, he's great.
Anyway.
Firewoman, originally by the cult, performed here by Jizzy Pearl.
I found this on a great collection called 15080s hair metal undercover hits.
Whoa.
Wow.
an album of several albums of 80s hair metal covers including this one i wouldn't necessarily
call the cult hair metal but whatever here is jizzy pearl and firewoman all right here it is
thank you all for listening we'll be back uh not next week this is this is our goodbye for the podcast
for at least one earth week okay everybody right but there will be content from Vegas we'll have
some live stream at least one earth week it'll be one earth week or uh yeah a maximum of one earth week
exactly we'll be back on may first that's that's
right and you'll be here with us and it'll be great for those of you can't attend you're like
all that week with no content i promise you we'll be putting stuff up may not be full shows but
we're putting stuff up and when it's all over our live show will be on the feed okay so everyone
just chill the f out just kidding all right that's it for us thank you for being here we'll see you next time
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She said
Well, I guess we can't do anything right, little honey
Since I set my eyes on you
I tell you the truth
Twisting like a flame in a slow dance, baby
You're driving me crazy
Come on, little honey
Come on now
Fire
smoke, she is arisen
Fire
Oh, smoke of the horizon
Yeah
Fire
smoke she is arousing
Fire
Oh, smoke dead lightning
Hangna,
Shake it up, you're to blame
Got me sweet little hearty
My heart's a ball of burn in flame
Oh yes it is
Tracing like the kid on her hot tints
No one is
Come on you sister
Come on and she's in
Fire
As long she is around
Fire
I'm smoke on the horizon
Yeah
Fire
Fire
Fire
On was launched
And lightning
Bigger
When I was
Thinking
When I was thinking
Listen, I tell you truth for me, yeah.
She's coming close now.
Well, I can feel her.
She's getting close to me.
Fire
smoke she is arising fire
all smoke by the horizon
fire
fire
smoke she ends around it rising rising fire
all smoke's that light in
Turn to do you
Choochoochoo
Furn here
Shaky
baby
Come on in burning
Say
Sunburn
Say
Sucan burning
Say
Yeah
Firewoman
You're to blame
Firewoman
You're to blame
Firewoman
You're to blame
Firewoman you're to blame
Firewoman you're to blame
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