The Morning Stream - TMS 2463: California EXTREME!

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

Scott is a power bottom. Would. You. Like. To. Play. A. Card. Game? Minnesota Bedroom Casual. My Hands Don't Scan. You son of a glitch. Jim Rummy sends his regards. Scott's gold grill. Still Got the C...rab Fingers. Apologies to I_am_Matt_Damon. (V) Did I ever tell you about the time I voted, shirtless, from bed in Minnesota. I googled wolves. The Sun Rises, The Sun Sets, Scott Maintain His Streaks. The Best Recurring Bit Ever. I Don't Like Decks of Beeeeeeeeees. Spinning 50 Plates with Tom. Babble On About Recommentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, Scott is a power bottom. Would you like to play a card game? Minnesota bedroom casual. My hands don't scan. You son of a glitch. Jim Rummy sends his regards. Scott's Gold Grill. Still got the crab fingers.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Apologies to I underscore M underscore Matt underscore Damon. Did I ever tell me about the time I voted shirtless from bed in Minnesota? I googled wolves. The sun rises, the sunset. Scott maintains. his streaks. The best recurring bit ever. I don't like decks of bees.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Spinning 50 plates with Tom. Babble on about recommendals with Randy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Our reality may be very much like theirs and all this might just be an elaborate simulation running inside a
Starting point is 00:00:52 little device sitting on someone's table. The bulb is good. you're threatening me you're threatening me with he oh my gosh what the hell happened there hold on that was all left up holy shit let's do that last bit one more time you're threatening me that stays there all right here we go you're threatening me you're threatening me you're threatening me me with P? This is the morning stream. Gooden-Tog and welcome back to TMS.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's the morning stream for May 10th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibbett. Thank you for very carefully enunciating my name so that people can write it on their. Scorecard, right? We got scorecards. Yeah. There you go. Scorecards, whatever device, whatever you got. If you don't get a program, you can't keep track of the scores if you don't have a program.
Starting point is 00:02:06 That's right. We got bingo on Wednesdays. That's right. Exactly. Now you're Brian Ibit space is filled. I like it. By the way, yesterday, we didn't talk about this, but everybody flooded me with messages about Taskmaster that they're all on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Did somebody even mention that to me? And I'm like, that would have been better. official information about six months ago. Uh-huh, right? Brian's down like $400 million. You guys could have helped them out.
Starting point is 00:02:36 What the frick? Yeah, I have, I guess, you know, looking back at probably, well, I bought season, so I've probably spent about $9, no, $110 maybe, I guess. Yeah, that's all right. You know what? That's money, you know. It's money. It's totally worth it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Whatever. During Little House, during Little House on the Prairie Times, that would have bought you like 20 horses, 15 acres of land. Right. Exactly. Actually, probably could have gotten Laura Ingalls for that amount. Yeah, no kidding. Or her blind sister. One of the time. A little house of the prairie times. Melissa Sue Masterson. Melissa Sue Hardin.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Now I can't think of it. Melissa McCarthy. Melissa Sue. Whatever. Shit. Whatever she is. Hey, I'm going to say really quick before we even get into our top topics. It was Anderson. Okay. Neanderson. Oh. Really quick shout out to. Mike and his friend
Starting point is 00:03:31 John. They are in town in Denver for a week. They work for the Navy Reserves. They're in town for a week with some training consultation about like working with FEMA and stuff on disaster relief. They joined us
Starting point is 00:03:48 for Puzzled Pint last night and it was fun to watch their brains kind of explode as they watched me and Tina and Clark and Nicky who've been doing puzzle pint now for about five years watch us bulldoze our way through puzzles
Starting point is 00:04:03 they're like wait no hold on how'd you come up with that how did you figure this one out what how'd you how'd you do this so if you're new to that business that's probably really crazy to see it is really crazy but uh you know I got to thank uh Mike brought me this awesome USSF t-shirt nice
Starting point is 00:04:20 so now I'm the member of the United States Space Force yeah not to be confused almost federation yeah I was gonna say not to be confused with some freaking Star Trek logo business because my gosh. Oh, no. This is so different because they're even. It's an isosceles. I see. Okay. Tangle and not offset. Finally, finally. Finally, the clarity of what the difference is. Finally. It's the vanilla ice. No, my version goes. Dun, done, done, done, da, done. Wow. Do they have anything to say about
Starting point is 00:04:52 that agency? Just like, I don't know, any cool information to say or like, what are they doing? No, no. They just happened to be, where they were going just happened to be right next to the Space Force gift shop. So that's why they're like, oh, let's bring a Space Force T-shirt for Brian. He also brought me a really cool Navy challenge coin, which is upstairs. So I need to really, you know, quickly get on my own 3D printed challenge coin holder as my collection of challenge coins grows and grows and grows. Exponentially. You know? Exponentially.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Here is my TMS double right here. Look at that. The Vegas, the two Vegas challenge coins right there, you're getting very sleepy. Looking good. Yeah, I'm just going to say I'm starting to fall asleep. What's going on? It's a weird feeling. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:05:37 There's a, I'm a terrible self-promoter, so I will say this. If you didn't see my update video for Dungeon Murder. Here's the thing about it. It's still up. The Kickstarter's there, dungeonmerder.com. If you missed out on it, maybe now's the time to go check it out. But the next two stretch goals, one, we're almost there, which is a plane. mat thing that's a map of the world that the game is setting it sounds so cool it's really fun to make
Starting point is 00:06:02 and then the next one is a challenge coin if we can get there so we just got to get there so go check it out dungeon murder dot com now let's talk about things I hate sure sure we've gone from things we love to things we hate I hate the dentist I like my dentist but I hate the dentist does that make sense like the guy sure hate the institution hey love the playa the game, I think is what that falls into. That is exactly what that falls into. And I've made this very clear before. Neither of us are fans of going to the dentist. And yesterday was just a cleaning and a checkup and all that. So when the show ended, I had to hustle out of here and go do it. All three of us, me, Carter, and Kim, all did it at once just to be convenient and have us all
Starting point is 00:06:45 there at the same time. And sure enough, after just, you know, a brief six months since my last cleaning or checkup. Last time, I was in there recently for the stupid crown fix but they don't check you then for other stuff you're just getting a job done but six months ago no issues with anything they were like you're looking great no worries nothing's wrong i go in there yesterday and he goes oh this upper bicuspid up here you got uh three major cavities in that tooth how he goes well it looks like it broke looks like you cracked it and now you got this here and this here and this here and it turns out once again an old high school filling is kicking me in the ass.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Another folly of my youth falling apart up there. Yep. That sucks. That really stinks. It does suck. So now I've got to get another crown after Vegas. I have to go in there and do that. And it doesn't hurt or anything. It doesn't nothing is wrong with it, but they got to crown that thing.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Thankfully, it's on top where I have less nerve problems and it doesn't take as long to numb and all that. It's like much easier situation than the bottom. I'm in some 20% some sort of 20%ile, where I take forever to heal down there, or forever to, not heal, forever to numb down there. It takes me like three shots on the bottom. Even then it sometimes doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Teeth stay sensitive down there more than up top. And up top, nothing. It's like no big deal. Every time you do something up top, it's like nothing to me. He says, yeah, there's about 20% of the population who has this bottom problem. What a pain. Oh, don't you just love being part of that elite group? Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And now I'm at bottom, he says. He called me a bottom. your bottom i thought that was weird that was a little personal i was like you're a power bottom so i guess you know i can kind of see that yeah i'm definitely not at top anyway so uh it's too much information so uh anyway new crowning coming and all that entails can't wait gonna be great uh i hate the dentist but i love the guy who does it he's a good dude it's taking care of me for like 19 years another on with him it's just what he has to do i freaking hate and it's gonna cost me like i don't know a thousand bucks because our insurance sucks you know and if i went gold it would cost me about
Starting point is 00:09:04 three thousand and i'm tempted right here to gold right up front what do you think of that like uh oh my yeah it'd be perfect for your grill it would be a good start to your grill yeah i have a gold tooth way up here in the rear top but don't can see it i need something out where it's visible you know for sure yeah get started on my awesome grill carter's convinced i I should do it, but I don't know yet. I don't know. Not of it's $3,000. I ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:09:30 No, no. I got a Mac studio I need to buy before I do that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You and me both, man. You and me both. The problem is, I want them to announce an M1, even though the M1 max that is used in that device performs better than the M2 overall, I don't know why I can't get my, I hate the idea of a number
Starting point is 00:09:50 that isn't advanced to the next number that they're on. Right, exactly. Just give us a new number. Don't add this, like, it's new iPhone for or whatever. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. Stupid. New Super Mario Brothers.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Well, it's not. As soon as you release the next Super Mario Brothers game, it's the old new Super Mario Brothers game. Yeah, do they learn nothing from new iPad? Remember that? That was a dumb. Right. Yes, that's the one I was trying to remember.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yes, new iPad. So dumb. So dumb. All right. Well, let's be smart and do a phone call here. We got a phone call. This one is for Brian. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Oh, no, I'm sorry. Yours is later in the show. This is one that's calling me out on something. Oh, okay. Oh, wait, is everyone calling me out? I have to leave early for the show today. Yours might be a positive one. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Okay, excellent. I think it's about your cool shirts or something. Oh, cool. Anyway, here's this one. Let's see what it is. I don't remember. Hey, this is Brent, or Nomek in the chat. I just wondered with this rider strike going on.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It might be protracted. This is me to finally get to watching Parasite. Love the show, though. Okay, so. Oh, that's funny. Like, because of the writer's strike, now it's time to watch Paris. Yeah, now's the time, even though the writer's strike really won't affect anything I watch for another year. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Because the writer strike isn't affecting new things that are already done that are out on schedule now. No, I have to wait here. I actually thought about this, though, because one of the bastions of a writer strike is that foreign content, and that means like British dramas and comedies. you know, things like pekey blinders, even though it's over, you know, that would have been a good example. These things don't, they're not subject to that. So I figure the next couple of years might be very heavily based on content that isn't produced here where this strike. Yeah, so I got to thinking, should I even be allowed to do that without watching Parasite first, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Right. Or RR.R. I mean, there's a couple, there's a couple foreign things that I think need to be watched. So I think I don't want to... Here's what you need to do. Just take it, take it out. Let's Gilbert Godfrey this. All right. So you've got, in your hands, you've got,
Starting point is 00:12:01 ah, here's all the streaks that I'm maintaining, right over here. Now, let's not look. Let's not even think about what's in this hand. Let's look at this hand. This hand has, and all of a sudden, I'm Rocket Racko. This hand, bring me that guy's leg.
Starting point is 00:12:14 This hand has... You know, I don't think... Bradley Cooper gets enough credit for his rocket. No, it's a... such a great like he he embodies that character that voice is you can you don't hear that voice and think that's bradley cooper making a voice you hear that voice and you hear that voice and go that is rocket raccoon and even the guy the video game guy is someone doing their best bradley cooper doing that you know oh really okay so it's not it's not better it's just him
Starting point is 00:12:44 it's him impersonating what works and yeah and and the rest of that game they don't care like Dracks and Gamora and all the other characters in the game, Peter, they all sound completely different and look different than their movie counterparts, but Rocket both looks like the movie version and sounds like Bradley Cooper doing it. I think there's a reason because it's so good.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It's so good. It's so good. And I've got to call out Cyborg Dude with one of my favorite Rocket quotes that isn't even that memorable or great. It wasn't even in any of the movies, but it's Bradley Cooper. It's a
Starting point is 00:13:20 Rocket going, my hands don't scan. And that's, and this is, it's probably the Guardians of the Galaxy breakout ride at Disneyland. And Rocket's explaining why you have to go on this ride, like why you have to go through these doors and go through this amazing best ride at Disneyland for me. Hands down, love it. But it's from the little pre, the preamble to the ride. And it's just that memorable, my hand. don't scan. That's great. That's great. Is that actually Bradley Cooper doing it? I bet it is. I think that they, because they got everybody else, they have everybody else
Starting point is 00:13:59 recorded new content for that ride. And why wouldn't they? So he's Aldana and Chris Pratt and Batista and all that recorded out new, total new content. Yeah, and all his, all his, I mean, Sean Gunn's doing the body work. So all he has to do is go into a sound booth and they say, record these extra two pages of lines for the Disney thing. Right. I just do it all at once. That makes sense. That makes a sense. Wait, Sean Gunn, you mean Vin Diesel? No, no, no. Sean Gun did Rocket's body capture. Oh, really? I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. So, Sean Gunn is both in the movie as a dude. Is Cragglin and the body, the mocap for Rocket? I had no idea. That's awesome. And then one other character now. It's only in three, though, so you'd know. I don't know who it is. Sean Gunn's like, like crazy, man. He is, and he looks like You're crazy man When he's dressed as cragglin
Starting point is 00:14:54 I wonder who he's doing the mocap for I don't know I don't know who does Groot actually Maybe maybe they get Vin Diesel's gonna Maybe it's Sean Gunn doing Groot Could be Could be makes sense It's just your brother He'll work for skin
Starting point is 00:15:05 I know exactly Do we get to keep Sean Gunn Or do we lose Do we lose Sean Gunn and the James Gunn divorce I mean he was already in suicide squad he was the the rat thing whatever the rat thing was what was the rat no musk rat or what was it called
Starting point is 00:15:25 the weasel the weasel the weasel yes right so he played weasel oh and also a calendar man when he was yelling at what's his name yeah I think you're losing him is what I'm saying I think he's going full DC yeah I bet I bet he is yeah all your your your body double needs and your weird off characters and then if bring if you bring Kirk back for a reunion of the Gilmore Girls, you're losing Sean Gunn. That's the rule.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, yeah. Squishy, no, that right is not in Disney World. Disney World still has Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, I believe. Yeah, I believe that one still has. But Epcot has the new Guardian's roller coaster, which I've got a ride. Is it good? Have you heard? I hear it's amazing. I hear it's spectacular. Wow. You go in every direction, Scott, every direction. What? Up down, forwards, backwards, through time, back in time, through space. ZX and X, Y. No way.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yes, you, you both go X, Y, and Z. No. All right. That's cool. I need to make a trip down to Florida and do all the new stuff they have down there. The one you love, though, is in, it's technically in California Extreme, but it doesn't matter, right? It's all the same. California Extreme, like it's a mountain dew flavor.
Starting point is 00:16:43 What does it call? California. Adventure. Why am I thinking? Try new mountain, do California Extreme. Tastes like sand and waves. I think I'm thinking of a,
Starting point is 00:16:54 it's actually a video game I'm thinking of. California Extreme is it like a one of the outrun? I think it. Outrun for California Extreme. I think it was, no, that was ESPN Extreme games. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh, yeah. Some 90s bullshit. Oh, I remember those. Oh, those games were great. Was that the ones where you, you like, did the, the street luge and the skateboarding. You had to punch people next to you as your skateboarding to knock them off their skateboards.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It's basically multi-event road rash is what it was. Yeah, yeah, right. I loved it at the time. It was a launch title. It looks kind of bad now, but I loved it at the time. It was pretty good. All right, we're going to get a game going so that we can get some prizes into somebody's lovely little hands. I mentioned this before on both Discord and here in the chat,
Starting point is 00:17:40 but if you would like to be one of the calls we take today, or not one of them, the one we take today. Then you're going to want to send me a DM on Discord. I'm FrogPants hashtag 1277 if you don't already have me friended. Send it over to me. You don't even have to have me friended. You just have to send me a quick DM. I'll add to the show.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You'll be a part of it. And we'll pull you in on audio. So make sure your mic's ready and all that. Let's see. Dunaway is a willing participant. You have to be able to contribute. You've got to be on audio. We've got to hear you.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, we have to hear you say words. and if we can't hear you say words, we will hang up on you and take the next person. So be ready. You're out. Like a great big hook on the stage of the vaudeville days, you know? Just yank him out of here. Hey, look who it is.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Brian Dunaway joining us from South Carolina, from his own little hole there. Hello. I meant the hole. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Oh, hi. How are you? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:36 How are you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good down in the deep, dang, hole. Yeah, that's a hole. Not bad. It's, yeah, it's actually, it's getting sunny. It's supposed to get up to the 90s this week. Bump that, I'm getting in a hole.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Sure enough, just like you said. I'm going to dig me a nice cool hole and crawl into it. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. It's only... Do exactly that. We can't manage more than 60 here for some reason. We're just having a little bit of a cloudy, coldy thing. But Vegas supposed to be almost 90 when I get down there next week.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's right. You're going to go into Vegas this next week. And you're going to like that. You like that 90 degree. I like the 90 degree dry. I like it dry, you know? Dry heat, no problem. What he said?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Take it down. take it down to where you live done away i freaking hate it i feel like a slimy slug hole for the for the whole time it's called humidity and that's quite the inconvenience it truly is slug hole my home this is your home that is uh well it's good to have you here we're going to take a uh a call let's see if we can oh you know what number three is our old pal i am sci-fi let's see if it worked so he got he's gotten lucky three times in a row this is the best recurring joke ever by the way is is the can we get sci-fi to play the game it is yep we're ringing him the best recurring bit yeah we're ringing him we're saying you can do it sci-fi you can do it i know we can do it i can
Starting point is 00:19:53 definitely see why you like it yeah we're ringing him it's not working he's not coming damn it to this point i don't even think he would answer even if he was there he's no i know this now he's this is a streak from him now i think yeah yeah well his don't work so we're doing someone else sorry dude i swear I swear, we try every time. We do. Yes. All right, let's get Travis in. My apologies to Matt Damon.
Starting point is 00:20:19 We ran out of time. Yeah, that's how it works. Okay, we have on the line with us, TV's Travis. Hello, Travis. What's up? Oh, TV's Travis. Hi, Travis. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Are you there? Oh, hi. Hello. How are you? How's it going? Oh, we're good, man. Hey, I haven't seen you since your blue beard was near me. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. Are you still blue beard in it? all right i hear i hear a brian and a brian oh you hear the browns you do not hear the oh you don't hear me that doesn't make any sense hold on a second you don't hear me scott's talking about your mama making a lot of mom wait are you i'm sure are you hearing are you really he's really not hearing me it doesn't make sense hold on uh do i he's not muted uh thomas has what we call it selective hearing do you have me muted Travis maybe to someone asks i only hear what i want to hear apparently
Starting point is 00:21:10 Someone asked Travis if he has me muted somehow. Do you have him muted some way, Travis? No. Not that I know of. It'd be hard to do. Is his icon muted in your Discord? His icon, like, yeah, I'm not getting any. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Hold on. He does have a muted. What loudmouth thing was I doing where he had to mute? I know why. I know why, too, because I was in the post. show a couple of days ago, and I had to take a work call. Oh, hilarious. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I muted what I thought was your stream like four times, and then it turned out it was from you. Just mute, Scott, perfect. Mute this asshole. That's great. That's fantastic. All right, well, you're here. I'm glad you're here. I made a joke about your blue beard earlier, but we don't have to go back to that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's fun. Yeah, we don't need to rehearse. No. In fact, I'm just going to throw this rope to Brian, and he's going to explain the rules and what you could win. Yay, I've got the rope. It's time to play. tadpully, few.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. TV's Travis, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian, and if your team wins, you'll get a prize package that includes. Golden Light and Riveta on Steam, courtesy of Dred Wesler. Wesley.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Wesley. That guy, man. look if you're looking for yeah if you're looking for game codes I know a guy I know a code master Don't don't tell all our secrets Yeah no kidding exactly we need these codes Yeah we need them yeah
Starting point is 00:22:50 Do you guys know anything about golden light or Rivita I don't actually this is an unusual moment That's what I was about to say because I don't remember anything about either one of these Maybe we saw them at some point in time I knew what Scott was talking about earlier though Talking about that early PlayStation release game Yeah yeah yeah yeah it's being extreme That's great
Starting point is 00:23:07 It was all so the problem of that games, they were all pixelated dudes and they looked at the time, you're like, oh, now I look at it and go, oh my gosh, that's a bad. That's an interesting topic we're going to talk about on Play Retro. Does it, did it really look as trashy as we thought, or is it because
Starting point is 00:23:23 we're emulating these things in modern times? Oh, I should... We're emulating on LCDs. There's some tricks. Golden Light just came out this past year and it's received very positive reviews, so I'm pretty excited at least about that for you. That's a new game. I'm I feel like I'm inches away
Starting point is 00:23:39 from buying advance wars again now that they've got that new remastered pack it's like i love that game do i need to buy it again i'm waiting of course you do i'm waiting for zelda reviews that will help determine which which of those two games gets my money so oh i mean is there any doubt that the zelda game is going to be amazing come on i mean i don't know it's going to get your money it's just a question of when but if my if my weapons break the whole eff and time i don't want to do that again i hated that mechanic in there your weapons break in real life scott i I know, but I have real life. I have to have real life.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I want to escape into a place where Zelda's weapons don't break every five minutes. It forces you to think. Sorry. Imagine if your links weapons. Imagine what podcasting Mike broke after so many words. It just like fell apart. It's like, oh, no. I got to quit doing that podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm going to cut out all the shows I don't need to do so that my, my, I'm going to avoid any possible conflict that might break my mic. It drove me crazy. Anyway. All right. Well, let's get to, let's get to this. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, right here, your question, we asked 281. I forgot how I get into this thing. We asked 281, uh, tadpullers. Put your hands on your buzzers to give their answer to this. Name your favorite card game using, Scott.
Starting point is 00:25:00 That using part isn't he coming. Uh-huh. Um, using, I'm going to assume you meant a certain thing. So I'm going to say, fart sounds. Monopoly. A card game. Shit. I'll say,
Starting point is 00:25:18 I don't know. I'll say Uno. I don't know. Uno. All right. Show me Uno. Oh. Shit potato.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Using only. Yeah. I'll repeat the question. I'll repeat the question for both players here. Name your, really just for Brian. Name your favorite card game using a standard deck of cards.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Oh, boo. Boo. Yay. So I can pretty much say anything here. I'm going to go with... I would recommend saying one of the answers we have on the board,
Starting point is 00:25:46 but I'm sure you could say anything. Yeah. Yeah, don't just say mashed potatoes, dude. You're not going to get it. Blackjack? Yeah. Show me Blackjack. Yeah, number five on the board.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So you get TV's, Travis, and you get control of the board. All right. Is it not showing that you have control. of the board. I have control of the board. Give me one second here. I'm going to reset because I can't, I don't see your play button highlighted.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Let's try this one second. That's weird. We got a glitch, everybody, a glitch. Little glitch, we're going to fix it here. No problem. I have five points. Now I have zero and. It's my new,
Starting point is 00:26:24 my new small indie video game called Little Glitch. That's okay. I got logged back in. We'll log back in. You'll give me the points though. You'll give me the points. I will give you the points. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah. I will do that. yeah it doesn't give me i don't get the button for play but that's all right that's all right we'll work it out we'll work it out yeah glitch is what we've got that is weird okay there it is okay okay okay hey tvs Travis we should talk about uh what uh card games we should we should what was the great question something like that yeah name your favorite card game that standard deck of cards right right i mean i feel like i feel like poker has to be poker's a no-brainer right yeah yeah do we have to do we have to
Starting point is 00:27:06 to specify poker or do you put them all together? I may have put them all together if people answer that. Is that what you? Proca. Show me, poker. Yeah, number one answer. Poker, Texas Hold'em, and one person said, night baseball,
Starting point is 00:27:22 which is a really fun poker game. I have not played that one. I haven't either. I've never heard that. Oh, nice baseball. Night baseball is a no peak, so your cards are dealt face down and you display them with your, you don't
Starting point is 00:27:36 get you don't even get to look to them until you flip them up threes and nines are wild a four gets you an extra card oh fun so you're just betting it well before i thought maybe has something to do with a baseball bat we had to like pick up the cards oh yeah no it has nothing to do with the baseball all right so what's our next you have to deal with two gloves on one great yet to hold it with the baseball glove that would be fantastic yeah love that idea right uh so tvs travis you got it you got another one uh first one that came to mind after poker is spades. Okay, spades is a good one.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yes, I think spades is an excellent. What do you think? Spades. Spades. Let's give us in spades. Show me, spades. Oh, oh, boy. You went long on that one.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Now it's got to scared me. Don't do that. It's because I was writing something down in a notes thing, and I didn't have that window forward. There you go. Right, right, right. Multitasking. Multitasking. Well, wanted to write something down before I forget it.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. It's important to do. So we did Spades. Do we want to do another face card game? Are you thinking hearts? I was thinking hearts, but that's just, you know. No, I think that's a good one. Hearts is a good answer.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The other answer besides Spades is the hearts. People like to do. Sure. Yellow moons, pink clovers. Show me hearts. Number eight. Look of that. Oh, that one was quick.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Stop it. That one was fine. It was totally fine. God. All right, so now we're getting into the weeds here. Let's see. We got Texas Holden Poker, Spades, Hearts, Blackjack. You got something else in your pocket there?
Starting point is 00:29:19 I'm trying to think my grandma used to play so many card games. And there's a couple of them I know she played. Yeah, I mean, Jim Rummy. Jim Rummy was one of them. That's what I was going to say. Did you say Jim Rummy? You said Jim. I said Jim Rummy.
Starting point is 00:29:34 My name is Jim Rummy. Do you think, do you think I said Jim Rummy? I did. That's what I heard. Then I'm going with Jim Rummy. All right. Damn Jim Rummy. Who bought me this drink?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Oh, is that guy down the bar of Jim Rummy. That drunk guy down there was always drinking the rum. Yeah, we call him Jim Rummy. All right, show me two of my favorite spirits. Gin Rummy. Number three. Guys are owning this one. There were quite a few people who just had Rummy, but gin Rummy is basically the same.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Rummy 5,000 or 500 or whatever. Oh, Rummy 5,000. I don't ever heard of that. Rubby 500. It's just Rummy 500. Oh, that's too bad. I thought it was kind of like a cover band for Power Man 5,000 or something. No, all right, fine.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That'd be great. Wouldn't that be great? You guys are doing really well at picking every other, like, almost all the odd. We just want the even numbers. That's what we're going for. It's like odd on one side, even on the other, yeah. Travis, you have another one. I have one that my aunt used to always, we used to play a lot of card games when I was growing up at my grandma.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah. Another one that comes to mind is Bridge. Bridge is also an excellent one. Yeah. So Jim Bridge. We want to play some. Jim Bridge. Show me. Bridge.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, too many old people. Too many old people. One person said Bridge in the entire survey. Surprisingly, like, yeah, nobody. That was big when I was growing up. Yeah. It was like your couple's game and they'd have to, like, give a little clues to each. other and say uh boy these uh it sure feels like it's warm enough to melt diamonds here maybe
Starting point is 00:31:13 four of them i love that so many card games are made up of yelling out the name of the game when you win i wish i could like yell out poker at the end of any time i'm going to match a poker poker yeah right right oh i love that i've got poker i have poker i have i have bridge uh all right yeah pie gow and craps two two games where the thing you the thing you don't want is the name of the game. Yeah, yeah. You say the craps, yeah. Nobody wants the craps.
Starting point is 00:31:39 All right, I'm going to say, I'm going to put Solitaire in here because I think that made the list. I thought about that. My grandma was always playing Solitaire. I like it. A little Klondike. Yeah, little Klondike Solitaire. Spider's not bad. There's a few kinds.
Starting point is 00:31:52 There's another one that's like, I won't say it. Go ahead. There's spider. Spider's fun. All right. Show me Solitaire. Number two. I've been trying to talk Scott into playing
Starting point is 00:32:05 those Microsoft card games as an episode of Play Retro because those things were so instrumental They really were like the multiplayer
Starting point is 00:32:14 at work gaming card games for Microsoft My favorite from them though is that pinball game That was my favorite Oh yeah that's fantastic one Yeah Microsoft pinball was incredibly good Oh like pinball 2000 or whatever
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah It was so good It's just weird that they never Made anything else after that It's so weird I mean they had the Xbox and games now But you know what I mean They never really did the pinball game
Starting point is 00:32:34 But then stopped after that. I mean, really pretty much a dead end. Yeah, that's just a dead end. All right. Let's go with slap. Wait. There you go. Slapjack.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I was like to make sure it wasn't another. Yeah. Slapjack is what it's called. Slapjack. Sure. All right. Show me slapjack. Oh, come on. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I know somebody said it. There were a couple people, I think, who said it. Yeah, slapjack. We used to play that. Loved it. No. No, maybe fewer than I thought. No, no. Maybe zero.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Maybe zero people said strapjack. Did any of these people, did these people have a childhood or anything? Or would they all do growing up? I wonder if that's one of those games that is, uh, is, um, regional. Like, it's called something in one place. You don't even have to have a full deck of cards to play slapjack, right? Just you just got to have, make sure you got some jacks in there. Just got to have jacks.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh, really? Is that the way it's played? Well, I mean, you just literally you slap it when the jack falls out, right? That what you do? Yeah, you could add an incomplete deck. You could have mixed decks. It doesn't matter as long as they're jacks in there because you're just trying to slap your... I mean, it's a kid's game, but I'm just shocked.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And the chat's over here going, never heard of it. No idea. Oh, really? That's too bad. That's too bad. That's good. It's a bummer. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Well, sorry. Back to Brian and TV's Travis. TV's Travis, you got one and he's left on the board. I mean, I've got one. It's a regional game, but Yuker, which is one that I played. A ton of growing up. Is that named after Bob Euker? yeah i think there's enough people that probably played that all right let's do some yuker i never played
Starting point is 00:34:07 this one so interesting sitting just a couple seats down the bar from uh jim rummy is bob yuker yeah bob yard yur show me you tray oh oh look at that damn not as regional as you thought or at least maybe everybody in the tadpools similar similar to uh bridge played with four people uh two teams of two and uh yeah yeah all right only ever played it on uh on an app but i did play it i don't think i've ever even heard of it till today that was our go-to card game on uh road trips with the track and cross-country team we'd be playing yuker in the back of the back of the van or back of the bus man picturing you in your hat and that beard doing cross-country as we always assumed the tvs travels looks exactly the same as he did yeah he's never changed from those days no
Starting point is 00:34:56 No slapjack But I'm curious Do you think they would I played the crap out of war But is that too similar to slapjack? I was holding I was holding on to war Wars I mean but I yeah I think I feel like that one would be more known So I would go with yeah so we're gonna go with maybe that's the maybe that's the trick
Starting point is 00:35:13 We want to play some war was it good found Found in the fake casinos of Vegas vacation but now can be found in real casinos across the country Show me war what is it good for Absolutely nine points, say it again. Nice. And really good for the win for TV's Travis. Mathematically unbeatable at this point.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Well, good. In that case, Tiva Travis, I'm going to say stupid crap. The stuff that I love, like Go Fish. Oh, Go Fish, duh. Old Maid. Was Old Made also? You had to have a special deck for that. But Go Fish was definitely a standard card.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I think you could play Old Made with regular cards, I think. What did you make the queen in Old Made? Is that what you do? Yeah. Pretty sure they'd be. Anytime you played one that had actual old-made cards, that was just them skinning it, but you could play it with a regular deck. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:02 But I still think Go-Fish is the stronger answer. I never had a special Go-Fish deck, but that's not true either, probably. I don't know. Okay. Go-Fish, then, Travis. Go-fish. All right, show me Go-Fish. Run! Damn it.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That's big... One answer left on the board. Guys are killing it. We might run the board today. That's fantastic. Look, I'm not into these standard card games. making a custom game right now that has nothing to do with three petitions. We should
Starting point is 00:36:30 save that for one of the, yeah, for the give-meas, right? Yeah. Yeah. Dungeon Murder. No, no. One that I haven't played in a long time, but I do remember playing a lot of was cribbage. Cribbage, that's a really good one. Yeah. That's an old people game, isn't it? They all play
Starting point is 00:36:48 it. Yeah, it is, but you kind of got us with the one one too, but yeah, cribbage is a good answer, I think. I play cribbage. I'm not old, and I'm not like an old man. I still play Okay. Okay, old man. You get those 15, 15, 15, 1, 15, 15, 1, 15, 1, 15, 4, and there ain't no more. Show me cribage. For the win for the end. Yes, cleared the freaking board. We did it, Travis. Just about swept the board. Oh, sorry. Oddly enough, oddly enough, the one Scott got is the one, one player game. I'm here. Shout out to my grandma who had a black and white TV and a couple of decks of cards for training me. Right? Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Even though, like, Caribbean, you play with a standard deck and a little pegboard, but I guess, you know, that still counts because you play with a standard deck of cards. Hey, some of the things that people mentioned that did not get picked, Crazy 8s, so similar to Uno, that's the, it's what you play. But without Uno cards. Yep. Spoons, which is basically, you know, you're just grabbing spoons as your scoring thing. 52-card pickup, just the dick move. That was always silly.
Starting point is 00:37:54 That was funny the first time you'd do it to somebody. Exactly. A picture car pickup. Very tadpool. Golf, pitch, 31, something called asshole. Oh, Adasta. Drug dealer? Egyptian flat screw.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I have no idea what that is. But somebody said it. It sounds like a weird drink you to order somewhere. Some people only read the first five words of the question and put Pokemon. Name your favorite card game. They buzzed in like Scott. We don't know who would to do that. Not to be outdone.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Somebody, a couple of people, only read the first four words. Nice. And I thought I was asking to name your favorite card. One person said the ace of spades. And another, actually, actually three people said the ace of spades. Thanks, Motherhead. And one person said the three of clubs. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:38:43 To know why that's your favorite card. That's so weird. That was Penn Gillette. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. He did say that. That is his favorite card.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah, that's what they're doing. Oh, so Penn Jellette. Gillette answered in here. Yes. What we can take from this is that Penn Gillette is in the tadpole. That's what we can take from this. Real quick here,
Starting point is 00:39:01 did nobody say 99? It makes me a little sad. I love 9-1 growing up. And I based rock runners on it. Let's see. I don't see 99 at all. I will see 25, 31, and did, I've said it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't know if y'all can't hear me if y'all ignore me. We're always, we're always ignoring you. Drug dealer? No. Nope. I vaguely remember. I thought you were joking.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I thought you made that up. No, no, no. It's a, it's a card. There's a couple ways to play drug deal, but I think it's also called Candy Man or something. But yeah, it uses a... You win five times and bees fly out of the deck. Yeah, all I got to do is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I understand how that should work. Well, that's great. Travis, I don't think we've had such a commanding performance before from Dunaway or his partner. Yeah. This is really impressive. So you deserve one of these. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You're a winner. How do you feel? Give us a hot take. on how you feel about your win. I mean, honestly, I feel pretty good coming in and just House and Johnson here. Yeah, House and Johnson. We got a good game out of it, apparently. It's a new, very positive-rated game.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Very excited. Yeah, it went good. I thought that went really well. Well, Brian will, of course, and probably already has, sent you your Discord DM with your codes. I certainly have. Run now. Don't walk. Run and install those on Steam and have the time of your life.
Starting point is 00:40:15 We'll see you next time. All right. There he goes. Always like me some TV's Travis. You should follow TVs, Travis. He's on Twitch. Yeah, he's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:22 We love TV, Travis. He does some great podcasts. He's a good man. He's tall. He's got a blue beard. What else can you ask for? Yeah. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Well done, done away. Tonight, you and I are doing play retro, and we're talking about twisted metal. Not just twisted metal, but twisted metal one and two. And three and four. I'll probably even talk about black. Black is amazing. And we'll probably talk about what we think of the upcoming show and all that sort of stuff. So if you want to tune in.
Starting point is 00:40:52 haven't seen the teaser trailer that's amazing paramount plus is getting that right is that is that peacock peacock i knew is one of those p words one of the peas yeah yeah one of the streaming peas yeah they're uh the streaming peas it's got your anthony macky in there um yeah i don't know i don't know who uh i don't know who else some some other people that will know we'll be in so no jim rummy then no jim rummy is not part of that uh part of that couldn't be reached we don't know where jim run is playing sweet tooth have they announced any of that kind of stuff. It's not really Sweet Tooth. That's the car he drives, but still What a Sweet Tooth? That's right. Sweet Tooth is not the name of the clown. I always
Starting point is 00:41:28 thought he was. No, no. That's where you get confused. The names of the vehicles is what you're referring to usually. They have different drivers because they die. Yeah, they die. That's right. Drivers die. My guess is, this isn't true, but it'd be funny if it was a pure CGI clown. That would make me laugh. Yeah. Oh, sure. Anyway, that'll be tonight. Check it out. 330 Mountain. Time for all you retro gaming fans. That's Play Retro wherever you get your podcast or watch it live at frogpants. TV. Excuse me, tonight, 3.30 Mountain Time. Brian Dunaway, have a fantastic rest of your day, you big weirdo.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I don't know where that came from. I'm just drinking water over here. Yeah, some fizzy water. You drinked some fizzy water? Nope, just this thermo flask full of water. Thermo flask. That's your brand new water bottle, isn't it? It is. Kim went and got something on sale and said, here you go.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And I said, all right, need to up my water intake anyway. So why the hell not? Very good. Yep. All right. Speaking of taking in more water. We are going to do one news story. It's nothing to do with a terrible transition.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But here you go. It's time for today's news, and it's brought to you by. Crab night when smelly hands never die. Yeah, we had crab last night. It was on sale. Kim just did a nice little thing. We had a big crab boil here at the house, just me, her, and Carter.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And it was amazing, but I still got the crab finger. Still got smelly crab fingers. I've washed my hand like eight times. I've showered twice because I worked out yesterday. I showered again this morning. Still got the crab fingers. It's kind of gross. What gross Scott out the most?
Starting point is 00:43:03 What gross Brian out the most? I like, I like, you know, whatever. I like the, it reminds me of the great crab meal that I had. Yeah, exactly. It's not the same as, you know. Well, anyway, let's move on. I don't know what I was going to say. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I don't know. But, oh, my God. I don't know for you to try it. that they should let people's let their imaginations fly uh a minnesota legislator votes shirtless from bed during a zoom meeting oh super yeah yeah yeah i vote shirtless you know i was trying to get to i don't know what the minnesota accent would work like here but anyway besides being a fargo yeah yeah that'd be the guy besides work uh being a lawmaker senator uh calvin bra or bar sorry bar of east bethel uh Minnesota uh is a truck driver who worked overnight and then
Starting point is 00:43:50 grab some shut-eye before the vote. Minnesota State Governor is reluctant star of sorts on social media after he voted while laying in bed shirtless doing what should have been a routine legislative commission meeting. In the video on YouTube, you can see him there voting with a schoolhouse rock. I'm just a bill character just behind him on the wall. That's awesome that he's got like a, I'm just a bill sitting on Capitol Hill, like sitting behind him. He's gone all in.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Let's see. following the vote he turned the camera off leaving it black for the rest of the thing just showing his name uh he had worked up or worked till 445 in the morning and then went to bed before taking part in the vote like some people want to rip on this dude i think it's freaking great yeah i got just badass like uh whatever yeah i'll get up do the vote i'm going back to sleep he's doing his duty but he didn't need to get up put a freaking suit on or anything just got a little bit of a look at the photo of him uh he's got a little bit of a randy uh deluxe thing going on.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh, look at that. Yeah, here, chat. You can see this. It's a bit of a randy face. Yeah. Which, you know, nothing wrong with a randy face. No. I cast, uh, yay.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I cast yay. Yeah, look at him. Oh, and his background is one of those virtual backgrounds with the, but the oh, gotcha. So that's the deal. That's why there's a Capitol Hill in the bill from Capitol Hill. Yeah. I think that's great.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah. That's off to this guy. All right, well, that's our one and only... Shirts off to that guy. Sorry, shirts off, exactly. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt, will join us. We're going to talk a little bit of tech on a Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:45:27 and after that, we'll do some recommendals with the aforementioned Randy Jordan. That's all coming up after this song Brian brought. Yeah. Oh, I'm excited about this. Garage rocker Olivia Jean has her third solo album, which is called Raving Ghost. Today via Third Man Records. Not Thirst Man? Okay. Thirst Man Records.
Starting point is 00:45:52 This is, man, she's getting ready to tour starting at the Blue Room in Nashville, and then she's going to hit New York City, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and more. And then she's also going to be at the Shaky Knees Music Festival in Atlanta. So if you're near any of those places, then go check her out. Here is her song Trouble from her brand new album, Raving Ghost. It's Olivia Jean. I'm going to be a lot of it. Well, I'm spinning again out of control
Starting point is 00:46:56 I've come back in, this means trouble Now my eyes are six-s-a-team, and you stand in waiting I've done it again I crack and pull. Oh, oh, oh, where did you go? Will I be okay Or am I in trouble Oh
Starting point is 00:47:21 Oh And where did you go I just don't know No I'm in trouble No I'm in trouble Don't take my show me in Let the madness begin The close again
Starting point is 00:47:56 I've lost control Will I see the sunrise And it's hitting my eyes Now I'm seeing the head And I start to stumble Oh Where did you go Oh, am I in trouble?
Starting point is 00:48:18 Oh, oh, oh, where did you go? I just don't know. No, I'm in big trouble. When once the damage is done, no more anticipation, I can't turn that time, the cat's got my tongue, I know it ain't right, and it's not worth a fight, my shine, my shine, mine can't be controlled, oh, oh, where did you go, oh, will I be okay? Oh Oh Where did you go I just don't know
Starting point is 00:49:22 No, I'm in big trouble I'm in big trouble Wait, are you gaming on a Chromebook? Yeah, it's got a high-res 120-hertz display, plus this killer RGB keyboard, and I can access thousands of games anytime, anywhere. Stop playing. What? Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Huh? Yeah, I want you to stop playing and get out of here, so I can game on that Chromebook. Got it. Discover the Ultimate Cloud Gaming Machine. a new kind of Chromebook. This is Claire. My vote for the best song is we don't need no education.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So I bought lots of them. You fat slob. Let's see if you've got any guts. This is the morning stream. all right everybody welcome back to the show uh hey i i tried to write it down but then i lost track who was that again sure sure well i'll give you one more chance uh from her brand new album raving ghost that is the song trouble by olivia jean lovely all the songs this week have been stellar they've all been really good middles i thought oh yeah yeah brian doesn't bring any crap to the show i'm enjoying
Starting point is 00:51:12 I've been like, you know, we got a good rash of stuff for me to pick from this week. And I was like, oh, this one's good, this one's good, this one's good. They're all good. Tomorrow's will be good too. Yeah, all of them. All of them. All of them worth your time and your ear holes. Don Tootin.
Starting point is 00:51:29 All right. Speaking of somebody who's good for your ear holes, we're going to call Tom Merritt. Now, the trick will be, oh, you've got rings of ringage here. Usually he's picks up right away. The trick will be reminding myself that I'm not on today. I'm on tomorrow. I've switched splaces because that new ACIS competitor to the steam deck is coming out. And they want me there to talk about that launch.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Interesting. Yeah, I saw some information about that. I can't wait to hear how you feel about it. Yeah, I mean, they're expensive, so I don't know that I'll have one to test unless someone sends me a demo unit or something. but sure sure um i think they're right around 700 bucks and specs wise it looks pretty awesome and the steam deck opened up a big wide new market that i think others are going to want to get in on so we'll we'll see um but that's why i'm not on there today uh he is not answering
Starting point is 00:52:27 let's see if he sent me a text uh real quick here let's find out uh calling now not seeing it oh you know what he might be over on twitch oh right he doesn't know about our well no he does know because i talked about it at length well yeah and we did and we did it last uh we had one last week that's right we did yeah and it's been one episode since uh yeah it's ban since day yes one week's just to you her pan a ham run out of her oh there he is hey look who it is i'm gonna hit this thing here where is it tom merrit there he is right there he is right there The world of tomorrow will be as cold as sunlight tuned through photochromic windows. I ride it naked.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Was Discord being a bad boy today? What happened there? No, I went to your Twitch channel and said you were offline. Oh. Oh, you didn't. You really did? Well, you're joking. Yeah, I thought.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'm joking. That's when I texted Scott. I was like, oh, because I was just trying to get into the chat room. And I was like, no. We were on YouTube the week before Vegas, and you've been on the week after Vegas. Totally not. Yeah, but I haven't gone. to the uh i haven't gone to the channel so oh it's all good i spent i last week you were probably
Starting point is 00:53:40 busy but i did this long do you remember me and roger asking how that move went and they wanted to yeah yeah yeah no no no now that you say that i don't remember that that's where you know it's all good man don't worry about it all good tom spinning about 50 plates all right everybody lots of plates and uh i was really just standing out in the kitchen talking to eileen but yes yes 50 plates 50 plates Anyway, it's good to have you here, as always. There's some tech always brewing on a Wednesday. So Tom comes in here on Wednesdays, and we talk about the technology of the day
Starting point is 00:54:14 because who else is going to do it, right? It's my number one trusted source of technology information is Tom Merritt. So we should be yours as well. Tom, what did you bring today? Well, first of all, those of you who are used to seeing Scott on Wednesday don't get confused like I just did about Twitch and YouTube because we are going to be doing the Google I.O. coverage today.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Google I.O. is going to be a big announcement. Lots of cool stuff. New pixel phone, pixel foldable, lots of AI stuff. So Shannon Morse is on the show today to talk about that because she's way into all the Google things. And conveniently enough, we're getting that AIS ROG announcement tomorrow or the release. So Scott's going to be on Daily Tech News Show tomorrow to talk about that. Shannon's on to talk about Google I.O. today. But one of the other things we might be talking about today is this AI announcement from Anthropic. So if you don't know Anthropic, they are a bunch of people who left Open AI to go start their own company. And they created a chatbot called Claude.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So if you're familiar with Claude, it's usually running through Slack. That's where most people can find it. but it's like chat GPT, but it's, it's Anthropics take on it. And the news today is that in order to try to make the chatbot not say horrible things, which everybody's trying to figure out how to do, Anthropic has a new way of doing it called constitutional AI. Oh, oh, interesting. Constitutional.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So who writes that, who writes the AI Constitution and ratifies it? Constitution. Yeah. That is a very good question. But it's the question that I think Anthropica is like, don't worry about that yet. Let's figure out how to make a constitution work first. So the method that they're testing is to create a set of principles that will guide the chat pot. And the reason this is preferable is right now, if you use chat GPT, you may run into the occasional like, well, as an AI, I can't address that.
Starting point is 00:56:25 That's when they've blocked a response, right? when they've said like, nah, we don't want it answering these. That's not very satisfying. There are sometimes when you're like, well, yeah, but could you just answer it without being offensive? So that's not ideal. The other one is called reinforced learning where you have humans come in and provide feedback. That's labor intensive.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So the Constitution tries to avoid having to use either one of those by saying, here are the principles to follow. Now, that's where you get to the idea of like, okay, but what are the principles, really? I need to know. for their test, they're using the UN Declaration of Human Rights, a bunch of trust and safety practices from themselves, as well as Deep Mind and some other companies. They're pulling things from terms of service, particularly Apple's terms of service, about protecting personal information and confidentiality, things that are very modern. And they want to see if this can train the model to know how to act responsibly. and they're also having it check its responses against the principles as it generates them.
Starting point is 00:57:27 So one thing you may or may not know about the way these large language models work is they have something called temperature. The temperature setting lets it sound more natural. So you don't have the model pick the most accurate response. You have it pick one that's like close to accurate because when you have it pick the most accurate, it sounds like a bot. When you have it pick close, it chooses different words and it sounds as well. more natural. This is kind of to me like a temperature setting of, hey, don't pick that response because that one violates the principles. Let's check against the principles. Oh, this one goes with the principle. We'll pick that response. Right. That makes sense. On their website where they're
Starting point is 00:58:06 promoting it, they have this cool graphics showing friendly and direct and a slider, which seems really interesting. It's like, here are the two. Direct is enter your order number to start the return process and friendly is I'd be happy to help you what's your order number like and then they sort of everything in between I really like that approach your temper the word temperature is a good one to use here like um you know what what what what is the appropriate way to say stuff back and I've seen this in other AI models like um 11 labs voice stuff they just added a um a scalability thing that lets you be, you know, let the voice be kind of goofy and wacky and make mistakes and all that and like even flub words and restate them. You hear breathing, this sort of stuff. Or this more like
Starting point is 00:58:58 audio book setting, which is the exact same voice, but very direct, very, you know, very readable sort of reading or whatever. That's super interesting to me as a part of all of this. But yeah, I don't know. Like the future of the, I don't know why the chatbot stuff is so exciting to me. whereas the art stuff irritates me a little bit. I've come around on some of that. But I think it's because I'm not a programmer or a writer,
Starting point is 00:59:25 so I'm less possibly affected by this stuff, and that's probably why, which helps give me perspective on why others don't think the art one's a big deal. To your point, the 11 lab stuff seems to fascinate you too, and you are a podcaster. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yeah. I think part of it is if you're in the middle of it, maybe this is a learnable, teachable moment here, but when you're in the middle of something and you find something that does a lot of what you're already doing, you're better able to see its weaknesses or see its tool use versus just seeing it happen and going, what, the computers are coming to kill us all?
Starting point is 00:59:59 I don't know. I'm trying to find my Zen in all of it and figure out like, okay, is this a useful tool or not? Turns out 11 labs have been very useful for me. I need to come around more on the art stuff because those just hit me. more personally, I guess. Of course, as it naturally would. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, well, and also, you may be a little more open to your podcasting and seeing 11 Labs as like, oh, this is something that could help me versus art. You've been doing it for your entire life. You're like, no, I don't need help. I know what I'm doing. Yeah. Like, you may have not seen how it would help you and that would make you more resistant. Yeah, part, it's so weird because on the one hand, I'm like, okay, let's say I need
Starting point is 01:00:40 to have a big, long email that just sounds better if it's narrated by a really cool voice okay 11 labs can do that for me and that's fast like convenient fast efficient i'm done when it comes to the art side some people look at it that way and go oh yeah a thing that used to take somebody 12 hours to complete or longer i can do this in five minutes a fast efficient done right it's the same kind of like end goal of convenience but one is so offensive to me and the other one's not because I know how long it takes to make a 12-hour piece that now only takes a computer five minutes, right? So that's why I think it's more personal for me.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And I think you enjoy the art more than you enjoy drafting the long email, right? Yeah, exactly. That's kind of my whole thing. So, yeah, I guess I'm trying to be more, I'm trying to be less alarmist about it and more like, oh, this is interesting, let's see where this goes. And I'm also, I think this kind of competition, so, you know, Claude and to some degree barred,
Starting point is 01:01:43 You think we'll hear about BART at I.O. today? Do you think that'll make a... We will. Yeah, I'm almost guarantee we will. We'll probably hear about POMML, which is their GPT, their big language model. I fully expect about half of this to be like, hey, let's show you our chops. We've been doing this for a long time. Here's what we're going to bring to you. A lot of it will be demonstrations that you won't get practical use of anytime soon, which is typical for I.O. And remember, it's a developer's conference. So a lot of it is going to be coding and things to make a developer's life easy. But, yeah, there will be some barred in there as well. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Well, this will be great. I'm excited about today's show, even though I'm not on it. Yeah, getting back real quick, one point I wanted to make about Anthropic is they're very insistent in all of their communication about this, that yes, they created an example constitution. And they want to be very transparent about what's in it, including telling you where they drew all their stuff from. but they don't see themselves as the people who make the constitution that everyone should use in their AI. They really are just trying to show how this could work. And then organizations, companies, countries even could create their own constitutions and that you might need different constitutions for different use cases.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Interesting. All right. Well, someone's got to start it, right? May as well, I guess. Yeah, if it's going to work at all, somebody's got to try it. Tune in. That's today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time. Shannon's awesome, perfect get for I.O. And you guys will love today's show. And then don't forget to check out tomorrow. We'll be on there talking about the AISRog and whether or not it has the teeth to take on the valve steam deck or not.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Will it come with teeth? Will it, indeed. You'll have to tune in and find out. Tom Merritt, Ace Detect everywhere you go. And also, you probably have some little side thing going on that you want to talk about. What can we tell people about the Ork? Well, yeah, I might as well mention. I wrote up all this stuff on Anthropic on my newsletter,
Starting point is 01:03:33 which just went out. tech tom.substack.com. So if you want to get my perspective on it, go check that out. Yeah. Do it today. Tom Merritt, everybody. Have a fantastic week, Tom. And we'll see you next week on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:03:46 See on Twitch. See on Twitch. That's so funny to me. I mean, it's easy to forget. Yeah, it is. Totally easy. It totally makes sense. We've been doing it since 2014.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So why wouldn't it be muscle memory? It's what we do. Yeah, totally. But it is funny because I spent probably a half an hour after DTNS last week with him, Roger, Sarah, and Joe, maybe Amos was there. They wanted to know how the transition worked and what it's been different and how it functions differently and all, you know, what changes have happened and all that. So I would just like this long half hour. Maybe that's the problem. It's too long.
Starting point is 01:04:25 They bored him. They were like, eh, I don't want to hear this. I got others. All right. Brian, that went well. Let's do recommendals. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to be in a fart sound in the middle of that.
Starting point is 01:04:39 So many good things we've got to talk about on this show. Nicole is not here this week just as a warning. She is at a school thing with her kids. And that's where mom should be, you know. Our moms and dads. You made the right choice is what I'm saying. Being there for the kids. You've got to be there for the kids.
Starting point is 01:04:57 That's right. Here's this. Well, what do you recommend? Oh, you know what that means. It's time for us to make recommendals. And joining us to do that today, we have Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy. Welcome back. Good morning, morning. You? How are you? Good morning. You? How are you? Doing great. It's beautiful day. And I've missed you so much. You're welcome for asking. These last few hours since we last talked. Yeah, it feels like we haven't spoken since Saturday. So long. Three days. Yes. It's been an amount of time since we've last spoke. It's good to have you here. We're going to do recommendals. and that means stuff we've seen on streaming that we think you at home might enjoy the tradition as we start with Brian Brian what do you want to say about your clip yeah so this is a movie
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm going to say also that it is it is divisive there are people who like who are going to like it and people who are not going to like it and we're going to try and identify what it is about what if you like X you'll like this or if you hate Y then you'll hate this kind of thing the clip you're about to hear features someone who's smart and someone who's kind of the pits All right, here we go, Brad Pitt and Gene Smart Together at last
Starting point is 01:06:08 Just kidding, here comes the clip I'm on a dry spell No It's over It's been over for a while I'm sorry Eleanor, you pedal gossip You don't make anything
Starting point is 01:06:25 You don't know what it is to put yourself out there You're just a cockroach I've been counted out before. Have you ever stopped to think why when there's a house fire? The people die and the cockroaches all survive. Jesus Christ. What happened was...
Starting point is 01:06:42 You thought the house needed you. But it doesn't. It doesn't need you anymore than it needs the roaches. And the roaches, knowing this, crawl back into the dark, lay low, and make it through. See, but you...
Starting point is 01:07:00 You held the spotlight. It's those of us in the dark, the ones who just watch will survive. No idea, but she sounded creepily like Gene Smart for some of them. She was creepily like Gene Smart. She's Gene Smart with a British accent, and that was indeed Brad Pitt. You actually told it. Are you serious? Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah, it was Gene Smart and Brad Pitt. Yeah, it was so you were making a joke, and I didn't realize it. Uh-huh. And you stepped right into that landmine. Yes, Gene Smart. Brad Pitt. In a film called Babylon, which came out last year. This is a black comedy drama film, as described on Wikipedia, a very accurate description.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Black comedy drama. All four of those words totally apply to this movie. But huge cast on this thing. I mean, obviously, you just heard Brad Pitt and Gene Smart, but you've also got Margot Robbie. Diego Calva, who you saw in Narcos, Mexico. Oh, he's good. He's really good. Giovanna Deppo, Li Jean-Lee, the creepiest appearance you'll ever see of Toby McGuire,
Starting point is 01:08:09 Lucas Haas, Max Mangela, Eric Roberts, Jeff Garland, flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Spike Jones, the DJ musician. Olivia Wilde, Samara Weaving, so many people. Ethan Suppley. Wait, Spike Jones the same as the director, Spike Jones? Spike Jones, the same as the director, Spike Jones. I'm sorry, yeah, not Spike Jones, a musician. Music video director, but not musician.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Oh, okay, okay, got it. Yeah, I was connecting with Fat Boy Slim, even though it's just from the music videos and not from the music. You know what's funny? He puts a lot of weird sounds on Dr. Demento, not that Spike Jones. No, different one, but what's funny is him,
Starting point is 01:08:50 Spike Jones and Brad Pitt, the last time I saw them doing anything together was an episode of Jackass where Brad Pitt guest art on there and Spike Jones was always hanging out with those guys and they went and did some huge prank with, oh, they faked a kidnapping of Spike of Ben, or Brad Pitt,
Starting point is 01:09:09 so they fake his kidnapping in the middle of like a premiere or something and freaked everybody out and it was a whole thing. But anyway, it's interesting to see them all these years later. No kidding. Back together again. The movie's directed by Damien Chazelle, who did La La Land. And this one is kind of like 1920s,
Starting point is 01:09:28 La La Land, right? Lala Land, even more navel-gazy. Very, very much so. This is so Hollywood, like, patting itself on the back, very bombastic. Like, if you take La La Land and say, let's strip out a lot of the musical numbers and just have some wild cocaine-fueled parties than you've kind of got Babylon. It's a, it takes place, let me kind of back up here, and takes place during like you said, the 1920s
Starting point is 01:09:59 when silent films were transitioning into films with sound. And so you had a lot of actors that were having a hard time making that transition from the silent pictures to the talkies and even focuses on people
Starting point is 01:10:15 watching the jazz singer and seeing that you know, you ain't heard nothing yet kind of deal from Al Jolson. It talks about how those actors you know when people could start hearing them they weren't exactly what they were expecting and and brad pitt plays this this uh carry grand humphrey bogart you know this this guy who was
Starting point is 01:10:40 clark gable kind of huge during the silent pictures and is having a hard time with the adaptation and moving to um uh to pictures with sound the whole thing is strung together by um two or three wild, extravagant parties where the music is, is loud and you've got these what feel like one-take shots that go through the party and you're saying, oh, these people are naked over here, and here's a guy doing Coke, and here's the trumpet player, and here's this other thing going on over here, and why is there an elephant pooping in my face and stuff like that? The movie does feature a scene where an elephant, you get a close-up shot of an elephant pooping on you.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Oh, yeah, I heard about that somewhere. uh and and uh on film sack where somebody wrote in and said we should watch babylon because the film opens with an elephant poop is that what it was i don't agree this would not be a good film sack movie was it was it in the uh it's in the opening it's the opener it's it's within the first five minutes of the film oh my gosh dude all right oh you really you really they really show their cards early on that one i guess they do exactly you know exactly what you're going to get um it is brief and it is done with much comedic effect but it is, and I don't know how, you know, if it's CGI elephant butthole
Starting point is 01:12:00 or if it's practical effects, if they just sat there and waited for this elephant to do what it did. It also focuses, so it's focusing on this core group of five characters. Brad Pitt, as I mentioned, this, you know, the silent film actor, Margot Robbie, this kind of rise to stardom, rags to riches kind of thing, becoming the Hollywood It Girl. Diego Calva, this guy who begins as a nobody and through his own drive and determination becomes a fixture in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Gene Smart, a writer, Giovanna Deppo, this jazz musician, and Li Jun Li, who is another actress, performer, singer, who's also really, really good. Focuses on these characters and how they evolve through this time and through these choices that they make. But it is divisive. First off, if you don't like La Land, you can pretty much rule out.
Starting point is 01:13:07 You're not going to like this one. Even though this one changes a lot of those musical numbers for huge set piece parties. What else could I compare it to that if you, If you like X, you'll like Babylon. Oh, hold on. You got something? You got something? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Give it to me. I mean, my main case for Babylon is that Damien Chazel and really importantly, Justin Hurwitz, who did the music in this and also wrote the music for La La Land. Got an award for it. Yeah. My case for them is that they are the millennial generation has finally taken over Hollywood. They are now, you know what I'm saying? Like, we are now, finally, we are seeing the, you know, the expansion of some younger filmmakers getting, you know, getting their due.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Gosh, I don't know what to compare it. You know, the Greek Gatsby film that came out with, um, ah, oh, yeah, they're old boy or whatever. Leonardo DiCaprio, it's the Kerry Mulligan, similar to that in its, in its presentation and style. So if you like that. Is Max Mingylla or however you say his name? Is he good, me? Jella. He is in this.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Is he good in this? He's good in this. I love that guy. As Irving Thalberg, like one of the few real characters that you actually get in this that aren't made up for the lot of... How about... How about how about it compared to TAR, Brian? Oh, better than Tarr. You know what I enjoy Tart.
Starting point is 01:14:39 You know what? That's a good comparison because there are lots of... There are a lot of scenes in TAR that are over-the-top, and in your face to give you a certain feeling of what Kate Blanchett is experiencing at the time or what the people around Kate Blanchett are experiencing
Starting point is 01:15:00 at the time. This does that too, where it's like, oh my gosh, all right, this is a lot of stuff coming at me all at once. What's going on over there? What am I getting over here? I can't look away, but this is like, I feel like I need to lean back because it is so in my face. The tar has that and this has that as well.
Starting point is 01:15:19 That's a really, that actually is a really good. Travis in the chat asks if it's Baz Luhrman style. Would you say that's anywhere close? A little bit like Mulan Rouge, but I mean, such a stretch. Yeah. I mean, I was thinking that this is Baz Luhrman without the shoehorn modern cover songs, the modern fuel. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Yeah, maybe. It is, you know, it's like boogie nights. It's boogie nights of 1920s Hollywood. Oh, so this is, I guess it just now hit me. This is a period piece. There should have been a giveaway with Max's character. So, okay. The period piece being the transition from silent films to talking films.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Right. That makes sense to me. For some reason, I'm picturing all of these people as modern, irritating people. Oh, gosh, no. They're playing very old modern, irritating people. All right. I'm peaked about this one. Have been censored as announced.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Sums it up from our descriptions. Baz Luhrman meets boogie nights without the juke musical aspect. I think that's actually a really good way to look at it. It is three hours long. Tuck in, be ready. It is another movie that I feel you can split into a three-episode miniseries about the transition from silent films to talkies. Does it feel like they could have done that for like a, well, like, you know how Tarantino did this? This actually what I think would have made a great miniseries where you follow the. these characters through like an HBO 10 episode um series going through all these things for
Starting point is 01:16:55 sure yeah some it feels like from your description that is kind of what this feels like especially that length that's long all right so cool so you recommend it up into thirds than RRR for example so even though it's very controversial kind of with critics you your thumb your thumb in this right up right I'm giving it a thumbs up and I think that the reasons that people gave it accolades um art direction, score, cinematography, ensemble cast, the reasons that people gave it,
Starting point is 01:17:25 those accolades, are accurate. Interesting. Yeah, it's a film that I've thought about a lot since we watched it over the weekend, and that to me
Starting point is 01:17:39 always signifies. It's like, if I, if I think about a movie the next day or two days later, then it's like, all right, that deserves a recommendal because it it wasn't like a throwaway uh god um the waste of time there was i agree with you but i yeah i feel that way about basketball and i don't know that it's got that awesome real big fish cover of take on me by aha basketball uh you know you're matt stone trey parker um there was a movie that we just watched uh the seven faces of
Starting point is 01:18:14 not Eve because that's a whole different film Seven faces Jane there we go Also came out last year This is one I wouldn't recommend But it's It is a You know that game you play with your kids
Starting point is 01:18:31 Where you take a piece of paper And you fold it into multiple pieces And then you draw something on one of the folds You fold that piece out of the way And then give it to them And they have to draw something in the next fold and then they fold that and somebody else draws something
Starting point is 01:18:46 the Seven Faces of Jane is the movie version of that starring Gillian Jacobs six different directors including Alexander Casavetes Kenjiakopola Ken Jiang Jillian Jacobs herself all do
Starting point is 01:19:03 direct one of these eight short films that continue a through line but only each director was only given information about where the last segment ended and they had to take it from there. And so you get this really jarring like, oh, what the hell's going on here? And oh, this is kind of weird and that sort of thing. But all and all, very interesting experiment that resulted in something that was not fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:19:28 So there's an example of something that I watched. Didn't think of much after the time except to tell people, don't watch the Seven Faces of Jane, unfortunately, because I think everybody that I've named is really, really good and really talented. Gillian Jacobs was a fantastic star from community. But I want to just show that, yeah, here's Brian saying, stay away from something to help you get to the point where you look at the things that I recommend and say, okay, Brian's not just going to recommend everything you sees.
Starting point is 01:19:57 No, this is good. This is good. All right, well, there you have it. Check that one out. Babylon on Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus. One of the peas. Randy, let's get to you next.
Starting point is 01:20:07 What did you bring? What do you got here? I got a new sitcom that I think just ended. abruptly because of the writer's strike at least the first season but has by the way has some connective tissue with and seven faces of jane and uh it's it's sitcom what you're going to hear is the first sort of well cut it's it's a it's a man who uh we all love who is uh is a professional and he's just been given a new partner and he really doesn't want a new partner in his life all right we just peeled through this as well i'm excited
Starting point is 01:20:43 to talk about it. Here we go. You know what Mark Twain said? I'm not 100% on who Mark Twain is. That's a whole other conversation. No. He said, if you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Is this about the hot vet? Yeah, of course it's about the hot vet.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I've been laying the groundwork for years. You know how many vaccination clinics I've volunteered for? A lot of vaccination clinics. I've eradicated entire diseases in pursuit of that woman. But, dude, I'm not like a threat. I have a girlfriend. She's a snowboarder. She's from Spain.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And if you ask me even one question, you'd know that. I'm not going to lie. That's a bit of a relief. Yeah. And if I was going to dip my toe into the work pool, it wouldn't be the hot vet. Well, and not Victoria. I got dipped there, too. No.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Emily, the boss lady. She's just so clumsy and uncomfortable in her own body. I guess I just dig an awkward chick. This is the texture I didn't know you had. You see? This partnership? It's blossoming. Oh, and I googled wool.
Starting point is 01:21:42 wolves. They run in pecks. Well, except for the lone ones. Otherwise, they would just be wolves. And you had to Google that? Oh, my gosh. It's, yeah, it is, it is really that we're now in the second generation past the office, right? So the office gives way to a generation of shows like this, like community and parks and recreation. And now we're into the next generation where we, you know, we've taken lessons that have been learned for over a day. decade now and in how we make these shows. It is, it really does have that mockumentary style, but man, it just like this show grows on you. I didn't want to, I didn't want to believe in it after an episode or two and it just kept growing and developing these characters and really
Starting point is 01:22:34 care, it cares about its characters, which is what Parks and Rec started doing in the second season, right? Yeah. I, uh, I love this show. We should say the name. It's Animal control is the name of the thing. Dot com. Yeah. Yeah, we watched, we watched the, well, I think Tina's watched a couple episodes. I watched the whole thing. And I think this show succeeds because of its ensemble cast and less because of the funny animal connections.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Like I, you could take out, oh, he's trying to catch this raccoon or whatever. and it's the interpersonal interactions between all of these characters that really make this show succeed the way it does. It's this Andy Samberg-looking Michael Rowland guy. Right. So he's the other voice you heard with Joel McHale, and he's Joel McHale's partner. He's a stand-up comedian, a young stand-up comedian who really hasn't had any roles in anything until this. And it's some like high-wire casting of this guy, and he nails it. He's perfect for this.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Like Brian was just saying, it's a show that does occasionally have a little budget for having live animals interact with the actors. And you kind of scratch your head and wonder, are the actors going to go for it? Or are they going to play it really safe? Michael Rowland goes for it. Like when he is the one who is put out there in a pen full of ostriches and he runs around with the ostriches. I like it's genuinely him and it's awesome you know yeah yeah it's uh he he made me laugh consistently through our watch through um yeah kim really liked this show she was like when's this coming back i said well i i hope it does yeah even writer strike or not this uh there was some
Starting point is 01:24:28 controversy with pita about their their use of live animals and even though i feel like it's so much more obvious the CGI animals that they do use, that, you know, the live animals don't look like they're being mistreated or, oh, no, no, no, no. It's, yeah, like, like, there's an episode where they go to a frat house and there's a cow standing on the second floor. It's just hanging out. And they keep, like, they have to, like, deal with it and, and they, like, work around it. And you could tell it's a very well-trained cow. But, like, the actors, like, they don't, have any like long shots like they're right up against this animal and they're all like they're just funny they're they're making you know the right faces and the right jokes and it's um it's got a
Starting point is 01:25:16 a bunch of character actors that are so good vella lavelle as the manager out of her element like a little bit in over her head and uh ravi patel and grace palmer as the kind of neurotic other other partners. Yeah. Like they, oh my gosh. They just, everything about these characters is so well fleshed out. And like I say, I really didn't expect that. I thought going in like, oh, they're, they're telling me too much, too fast.
Starting point is 01:25:47 These characters aren't going to be that interesting. They are so interesting. I want, you know, I want 200 episodes. I know. Their interplay, those two are just, it's just great watching the two of them go back and forth at each other, sparring, basically. well we'll see what happens after the strike whether we get more or not but um on hulu correct is that where that is on hoonlew yes it's a fox it's a fox okay so if you have the fox app for whatever reason
Starting point is 01:26:13 you can watch it there but yeah let's let's just say hey hey if you have the fox app cool on you that's a thumbs good good job buddy good job having the fox app yeah good job on that fox app uh excellent i'm uh going to now play you a clip from a thing that is only three episodes in and i've only seen two of them because the third one just dropped last night and haven't had time to watch it. But it is easily my favorite thing right now and was also one of my most anticipated things and is based on some of my favorite books ever written.
Starting point is 01:26:44 So with that said, here's my clip. We do not know who built the silo. We do not know why every... Everything outside the silo is as it is. Good morning, Sheriff. Hey, Sam. You awake yet? I'm about halfway there. We do not know when it will be safe to go outside.
Starting point is 01:27:26 We only know that day is not. is not this day okay that is audio from the first episode of silo uh this is a so far it's it's based mostly on the original book called wool w o o l um that is now just called you know it's just book one of the silo series by hugh howie who is um very quickly became one of my favorite authors the first book started out as like kind of a short novel that he wrote i wouldn't call it a short story it's longer than that more novella I guess lengthwise um and it just completely hooked me I've since been able to talk to this dude he's been on tom's sword and laser a couple of times super nice guy really down to earth
Starting point is 01:28:11 dude but he wrote one of the coolest apocalyptic stories future dystopic stories I've ever read and just tore through it and I've read it twice now and I'm in I think I'm going to start my third reading because I enjoyed it so much because of the show and even though I know exactly where this is going I am enjoying the living crap out of silo it's on apple TV plus it's It's an original that just started airing. Thankfully, none of this first season will be affected by the strikes because it's all written done and in the can. This stars an amazing cast featuring people, some people you know, like Rebecca Ferguson, who's, for those who are like, wait a minute, how do I know her? You know her from all kinds of things, but primarily recently you probably know her from Dr. Sleep.
Starting point is 01:28:54 She's the hat woman lady. And she's the mom, or the mom, the queen. Lady Atradees on the Dune film, Dune Part 1 and 2. Oh, right, right. So good in that. She's very, very good. She plays this titular character named Juliet Nichols. Will Patton is in this.
Starting point is 01:29:11 He's always good in everything he's ever done. Tim Robbins, although I've barely seen him yet. He has a huge role to play based on his name. So we'll see as episodes go. This guy who plays in the first wool book, the real star of it is a character called Sheriff Holston. He's the sheriff of this underground silo where nobody knows why they're there. and why they've been there so long for hundreds of years and they don't know why the outside
Starting point is 01:29:34 is supposed to be so toxic to them and there's a whole thing there. I don't want to spoil, so I won't. But David Oweilioiwo and has to say his last name. It's very apt to be. Oh, yo, lo, whoa. Oh, yo, lo, okay. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And what I love about it is they're telling this in different time chunks, like they're jumping around. So they'll show a bunch of stuff and go, but before that, this is what happens to sort of fill in the gas. and then they'll jump back to present day and then they'll do some stuff there and then they'll jump back and normally that kind of annoys me it's being handled expertly here no issues
Starting point is 01:30:08 commons in this very small so far but apparently a bigger role later well I know it is because of his name just a whole bunch of really great actors and the one that really surprised me the most and through me was she's not on this top list and my brain just went dead let me find her name she was in the office and parks and rec
Starting point is 01:30:29 and she heard she's the daughter of the famous musician and i can't find her name uh frickin russia jones jesus oh rishita jones right quincy jones's daughter yeah relatively small role but she blew my freaking mind her acting is way more than what you think like she's very good and it's a really important role to setting up the rest of this story and um man she blew my mind in this she plays alison becker and she's so fantastic anyway, that surprised the crap out of me and is worth seeing on that alone. Even if she was only in the first episode, so I don't even know if we ever get to see her again, but hell of a thing.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah, I got some bad news for you. Yeah, she may not show up. She's so good, though. I mean, they could because they're, like I say, they're going back and telling stories before people are gone. And they've done that a bunch so far. So it's a possible future episodes we'll have her in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:23 And top billing for the Onion Night, uh, Jora Mormont, whatever his name is. Oh, right. Right. And he hasn't even shown up yet. Ian Glenn. Or Lane Glenn, or have you say his name? Ian Glenn. Yeah. He plays Dr. Pete Nichols. He's in six of the episodes of the 10 and he's not been in yet. So I assume he's kind of a heavy ladder half character. I haven't seen the new one. So maybe he's in tonights or last nights. But anyway, it is so up my alley. It's just about parked there and called it its address. Like it's just my kind of thing top to freaking bottom. And if you have ever liked anything, I've ever liked, this is so, so good, so far, I can't say enough about it. And the creator of the show, or the showrunner is Graham Yost, and you know him from a billion things that do the show run for, well, he wrote, get this. So he was showrunner for all of Justified, one of the greatest shows ever made. He wrote speed, the original speed, he wrote. He did, he wrote and produced the Pacific, amazing HBO miniseries about World War II in the Pacific. Just a ton of stuff. He was executive. producer on the Americans. He did Sneaky Pete. On Slow Horses, which I recommend a little while back with Gary Oldman. That's fantastic. Just an amazing producer.
Starting point is 01:32:38 He produced John Adams, that amazing miniseries back in the day. Anyway, perfectly suited for this. I think Hugh Howey's vision is being really well represented here. They haven't made big changes. They won't really need to. It's such a great story. I can't say enough about it. And I can't wait for more. So that is Silo currently airing on Apple TV Plus. And I'm pretty close to, well, we'll see at the end of the season, but I'm pretty close to saying this and Serenity are kind of vying for top spot, or not Serenity, Severance. Severance are fighting for top spot on what my favorite crap on this, on their service is because it's so good.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Oh my gosh. And no need to email Scott. I have been corrected. The Onion Knight was Davo Seaworth, who was played by Liam Cunningham. Oh, right. This is the dude who loved one. What's her name? The freaking queen.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Yeah, Jormormon. Joramon. Morton. Yeah, yeah. Oh, right. Anyway. You know what? You know what's sad?
Starting point is 01:33:40 Game of Thrones is fading in the memory. Like, it's fading hard. Oh, I don't know. I still think about it all the time. I love Game of Thrones. Dude, in fact, I'm tempted to, when things slow down with the strike, I may just do a big old rewatch of that business. I might do it.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Brian just, Brian just exhaled the room. Exactly. It's like, oh my God. Parasite. RRR. All these things. No, no, no. I'll watch other stuff. There's time for all of it. There's time for all of it. But I'm just saying I might want to, you know, it's good. My sister or my sister, my daughter and her husband just ripped through it again. They got me thinking about it. It's good. It's good. It's good content, man. It's good content. Maybe you watch it all the way up to the Battle of the Bastards and call that the end. Right. Call that the ending. Yeah, that's good. I think the ending's better if you binge it. I think the ending's not as bad as ever. one thinks it is because the way it was doled out. But if you watch it as one solid big old thing and get out of the hype bubble, I don't think it's that bad. I think that one one solid 98 hour long movie. Yeah. Yeah. Just get it started and you'll be over before you know it. Anyway, it's fantastic. Can't say enough about it. Silo, get it while you can. That's awesome. Yeah. So good. All right. That's it. These are all be up on quickt ms.l. Brian's probably already got them there now. I do. They're already there. You can.
Starting point is 01:34:59 can click them and go right to the links to watch them, right where you need to be. Indeed. This weekend, check out Film Sack. We're going to be watching, I don't remember. Blood Simple. Oh, Blood Simple. That's right. The first Cohen Brothers film.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yes. I have to watch it tonight because I've got a surprise mammoth playoff game tomorrow night and a crowded house concert Friday night. So tonight is Blood Simple for me. Why is it a surprise is something with playoffs or something? Yeah, it's the playoff games. They won on Sunday. and then they announced the schedule on Tuesday of the next playoff games.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Like, hey, by the way, everybody, Thursday night playoff game. Unfortunately, Crazy Neighbor is out of town. So Tina's going to be joining me for the game tomorrow night. She's a better influence on you. She has a much better influence, yes. You know what, Scott, we may as well talk about next week, too, because we're not going to be here on TMS next week. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:35:53 There's not going to be a TMS Wednesday. Thanks to the morning stream, our next film after Blood Simple is going to going to be hollow man yeah yeah sticking it in you heard it here and we added it there yep yeah heard it here added it there i like that right let's put that on shirts that'd be a good shirt that's right that'd be a shirt do that shirt uh randy have a fantastic uh couple of weeks i guess before we see you for this again but we'll see on film sack this weekend you too bye now all right bye there he goes uh yeah silo dude yeah i'm excited june 30 so 10 episodes the last one airing june 30th I'm not sure I'm going to wait until all the episodes are out to binge it.
Starting point is 01:36:31 So we'll see. Yeah, this is one of the, you know, we all have our week to weeks. This is definitely one of those for me. Yeah, yeah. But I hate this feeling that I haven't even seen last night yet. It's pissing me off. So I've got to go watch it today. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I'm still, I'm in the middle of season three of the wire. Oh, dude, three's great. The season where they just decide, we're going to move all the drug dealers to a different part of town and let them do their drug dealing there so that our numbers are better. over here. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. It's exciting.
Starting point is 01:37:01 A lot of people, like, some people don't like the sophomore season, the season two, with all the, you know. Oh, I liked it with the ship, the shipping. Yeah, the shipping stuff and all the strikes and all that. I really liked that season. I thought it was good too, yeah. I like it all, whatever. That should, that show never. Season one, a little hard to watch, but season two, huge improvement.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Season one's a little, they had this feeling of, we're just getting started. Right, exactly. Yeah. It gets better as you go. All right. going to do it for today, except this phone call I'm going to play that is directed at Brian and it regards his shirts. And I'll play it now. Here you go. Hey, this is Jeff from Las Vegas. I was just looking into the May 4th episode of Brian
Starting point is 01:37:41 mentioned his blue Star Wars shirt. Well, Star Wars print shirt, right? It's got all the different spacecraft, I guess, looks like a blueprint of them. Anyway, I was like, oh my God, I have this same shirt. And here's the thing. Every time I wear that particular shirt, I get a lot of comments. Like, people actually that I don't even know, walk up and say, dude, I love your shirt. And they don't, I guess, have the physique that would render itself to getting compliments regularly. So, anyway, it got me thinking, all right, like, do you guys have a particular article of clothing, like, a shirt or a hat or something that every time you wear it, you get compliments? Love the show, though. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:38:19 That's a good question. I get that from almost all of the Roosevelt's shirts. Like I've got a grogoo, I've got a stitch. Tristan just got me a really cool nightmare before Christmas, Roosevelt's shirt. Every time I wear any of those, people comment on them. And they're kind of Hawaiian shirty, so they kind of work. I wear a lot of these that you see on me now. There's like long sleeve, thin, summery kind of.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I don't even know what you call these. You could like swim in these or something. My wife says these are slimming. but I don't have like regular people who you know what I got a lot of compliments on the t-shirt I made for rock or for uh for dungeon oh dragon murder or yeah dungeon murder or dungeon murder yeah may as well be a dragon it's fine
Starting point is 01:39:07 dragon murder there's a dragon in there the only the only dragon in that game screws you for five grand but uh that's right dungeons and dragon murders it's so great yeah but this these are I think these are my look I think I look good in these yeah I don't know what else to wear That's true. September says pizza's beautiful. That shirt, whenever I wear it, somebody who doesn't know me looks at, like I'll be out somewhere and somebody's like, ah, pizza is beautiful. What a weird shirt. And then they keep walking. So the pizza's beautiful shirts are also in that strange. They're all-time classics, man. They're the best thing we ever did. Big thanks to Rob from marketing for the one. Yeah. Thanks, Rob for marketing. And Tanner and all those guys who stole them.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Carter says, you don't leave the house often enough to get compliments. No, she's right. She's right. When I do. Well, who's going to give me, like, what, do you go to, I'm not going to go to, like, a store and someone's going to walk by and go, hey, I like your, no one does that. Like your dungeon murder shirt. Yeah. Although my wife, she'll have a dragon on it. My wife gets compliments constantly about her hair, about something else. I love your earrings, whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:10 She gets them all day long. I'm just walking around with a hat on. That's it. Yeah. That's me. All right. We're done. Let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:40:17 But before we do a reminder, we need you and your patronage over at patreon. dot com slash tms i talk about it every day so you know the drill all the reasons why are listed there go check it out read up on it today if you haven't already joined we'd love to have you at patreon.com slash tms big thanks to anybody who subs to the youtube as well uh that's much appreciated as we try to grow that out brian let's throw it over to you for a song we got to finish out here with what do you got let's do it it's the bookend right uh this one's going out to felicia who says Hello, Stimulus and Baseline. Today, I'm covering two momentous occasions because while I'm celebrating my 34th birthday
Starting point is 01:40:57 on Thursday, let's party. I figured I'd get you early. You were ready. I'm glad you did. I will also be graduating this summer with my master's in behavior analysis. It has been a long road to this moment as I started college in 2007, dropped out and got married, had a kid, got divorced, then went back to school in 2018. At first, it was just to get an associates in computer science to get something.
Starting point is 01:41:20 thing for all my college credits, but then it turned into also getting a bachelor's in psychology, and then I found myself in grad school for a master's. In August, I take an exam to become a board certified behavior analyst. Wow. That sounds awesome. What a cool field. I don't even know where you go with that, but that sounds great. Oh, totally. I could not have done all of this without therapy, medication, and my incredibly supportive boyfriend, Michael, who encouraged me and endured all the times I talked about quitting it all because of social anxiety and ADHD. I'm so thankful I didn't quit because it ended up making me face my social anxiety and shaping my focusing and study skills. Above all, my greatest inspiration in driving force is my autistic 11-year-old son who taught me how to see the world in a way he does and be an advocate for him and many others.
Starting point is 01:42:07 It's hard to believe that I've finally arrived at this point in my academic journey, and I wanted to take a moment to stop and celebrate. Covermaster Ibit, if you could play a song about finally succeeding or defying odds, I would be eternally grateful. grateful. Love the show, though. Felicia, a.k.a.a. The Great Flea. 143 in the chat. Oh, very nice. Congratulations, Felicia. That is a massive, massive achievement. Like, just describing all the things that you've accomplished with the, the bachelor, the associates degree, and then the master's congratulations. It's so cool. Please don't use your behavior analysis stuff. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't know why you're wasting your time listening to us, chuckleheads. This is a great, I'm glad you do, but it's just like that. Glad you do, but boy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:49 I don't know what you've got written in your spiral notebook about me and Scott about all this stuff. All right. So a good song about overcoming odds and achieving, succeeding, defying the odds, etc. This is a great one. Originally done by Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell. It is a classic song, and I've got a lot of versions of 8-No Mountain high enough. This is one of the more recent ones, came out this year on Scary Pockets, recent album, Swatkins.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I always get scary pockets and let's see. There's the one that Jack Conti does and there's the one that Scott Bradley does that are the two really good funk-based cover bands. What's that other one? I'm trying to remember what the other one is.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I have a whole playlist of these people. Pompile-a-Mus obviously is one of the things he does, but then there's this other thing that magazine. Anyway, the patreon five i have no idea yeah exactly just join forces guys and vultron your amazing talents into one amazing unstoppable juggernaut of a group um here are scary pockets and their cover of ain't no mountain high enough Oh, listen, baby. Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Yes. Ain't no mountain high, ain't no valley, though. Ain't no river wild love, baby. If you need me call, when you don't matter how much, don't worry, baby. Just call my name, I'll be there in
Starting point is 01:44:35 hurry you don't have to worry because baby there ain't no mountain high and there ain't no valley low enough ain't no river wind up to keep me from good to you baby remember the day i've set you free i told you you could always count on me darling from that day Oh, I made a vow I'll be there when you want me somewhere somehow Because baby there ain't no mountain high in love Ain't no valley low in love Ain't no river wide enough
Starting point is 01:45:26 To keep me from being to you, baby Oh no baby No wind No rain No winter's cold Can't stop me Baby Oh no baby
Starting point is 01:45:47 Because you are my bed If you're ever in trouble I'll be there on the trouble Just sound for me Oh baby My love is a light Way down in my height Although we're my mind
Starting point is 01:46:04 I'll be able to meet my opening I'll be there on the double just as fast as I can Because baby there ain't no mountain high enough Ain't no down there long enough Ain't no river wide enough To keep them from getting to you baby Ain't no Mountain High and love
Starting point is 01:46:35 Ain't no family love Ain't no isn't wide enough To keep me from going to you baby If you like what you just heard There's a very good chance
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