The Morning Stream - TMS 2465: Hard Lyfting

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

This Is All The Begas You're Getting. I Could Fight a Moth for Hours. You're probably right but still Eff off. They paved Paradise and put up a Vegas sign. We stopped for pee and pretzels. No music in your car for 10 hours is a murder scene. The Flamingo is Staying. Elongated Muskrat. Vegas Parental Freedom. No Whacking Doodles in Brian's Lyft. Blame Chuck & Marc. I don't like Beeeeeeees (in the Pool). Eff the Dritish with Amy. I'm back from the Vegas bazaar. You don't know how lucky you are, boy. A Road Trip with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, this is all the Vegas you're getting. I could fight a moth for hours. You're probably right, but still F off. They paved paradise and put up a Vegas sign. We stopped for pee and pretzels. No music in your car for 10 hours is a murder scene. The Flamingo is staying. Elongated muskrat.

Vegas parental freedom. No whacking doodles in my lift. Blame Chuck and Mark. I don't like bees in the pool. F the Dreddish with Amy. I'm back from the Vegas Bazaar. You don't know how lucky you are, boy. A road trip with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

What is a black hole? It is so deep. It's so hard to fully appreciate all of the physics that's going on. You can spend your life studying this. Everything turned on a dine. The morning stream. Come over here, Mr. Pokemon Man, and let me get a peek at you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, May 18th, 2023.

I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian. Hello, welcome back. Hello, Brian. Welcome back. Yes, indeed. Vegas, second Vegas trip of the year, which was really literally a week and a half after where we already went.

Very different, though. I only have, like, it was so different. We spent most of the time of the kids, most of the time at the pool. We had a four-year-old and eight-month-old with us, so it was like, you know, very busy, keeping them busy and all of that and trying to give Taylor and Dylan kind of, you know, some timeout where they can go off and do whatever they want to do. Freedom. Freedom, some parental freedom.

and it was really fun we ended up staying at an awesome place that was kind of near the airport but you know not that close to the strip so I don't know it was kind of nice to be separate but then but then we do these you know day trips to the strip and see all this stuff

and everything my only regrets about the entire thing the only regrets I have is that I ran out of time to see Shojo or James and Svet I was going to try to have dinner with James and Svet didn't happen.

I hate that. I really wanted that to happen. So the next time I'm out there, I'm making that happen. But it just got like, it was just crazy. We always had, you know, we always had kids with us. So it was impossible for us to, like, control our schedule very much. For sure. Yeah.

You guys were on full-time kid duty letting, uh, yeah, Taylor and Dylan have some, have some. Which was fun. It was a really fun thing to hang out with those kids, to not feel any stress. There was nowhere I had to be. It was just like, let's get in that lazy river and let's float around that thing for a while. I love a pool with a lazy river. Yeah, this one had a nice one, too. It was pretty good.

That's cool. I will say this, though. So, real quick here. Yeah. Let's call this my most irritating story of the trip. Because most of it was very pleasant, no issues, everything's great. Sure. But we're on the strip, and we're walking.

This is the first day, too. We're there with the kids, and we're waiting for actually our time share is not ready with the room yet. So it's like four hours. We had to just do stuff on the strip for four hours. No big deal. Sure. Kill a little time. Yeah. And four-year-olds love seeing giant replicas of the freaking Nifel Tower and, you know, all that. It's fun. Of course. Yeah.

So we're doing all that. It looks so much like the real one, that says. Exactly. Except for the weird homeless guy that's throwing needles at me as I walk by it. But anyway, which leads to this story pretty well. So we're walking down the street, down the strip. And by the way, you know, this time of week and this time of year, it's pretty good. It's right before the playoffs for the nights, which is going to get real gnarly in the next day or so. It's in between a lot of things, a lot of cons and stuff. So relatively very small amounts of people everywhere.

It's not packed anywhere that we're going, which is great. We're loving that, right? Just big. Ideal. Yeah. Very ideal. It's nice. And we've experienced that pretty much the whole time.

We never had like a line or too many people. I don't even think we took an elevator that had more than just us in it. It was just so easy. So anyway, we're walking down the street. We're just about tropic, or no, the one they're tearing down for the baseball stadium. The tropicana. No, it's not. It's the flamingo.

Flamingo is going down. Oh, Flamingo. They're not tearing down the Flamingo. I thought they were. I thought it was the Tropicana down at the end of the strip by MGM Grand. Oh, I was, Mizzula told me it was the Flamingo. In mid-strip, they're tearing down? They're taking that whole thing out, and then they're going to pull.

I could have sworn I saw a news article about Tropicana, because that would make more sense with all that space down there. I agree, because it extends like a ways over there, right? There's a bunch of dead space that they can use. There's no hotels on that side of street south of that. But maybe, there we go, Tropicana to be demolished for baseball stadium. So it is Tropicana? Yeah. Flamingo's like right in the middle of everything.

Yeah, I was going to say. Cromwell and all that stuff. Okay. That makes more sense to me because I was looking at that thing. I must have misunderstood, Chris, but anyway, when I saw it, we were walking in the middle of that, I'm going, they can't put a baseball stadium here. It's insane. It's already weird.

Where everything is already at is already weird. And the F1 thing this fall, what the, how the, you can it function in here. You know, you might be confusing because the two of the boulevards that bisect the strip are Tropicana and Flamingo. Yeah, that's probably why. That's another reason it might be confusing. Probably why.

It makes sense, though, because that Tropicana, take it. It's ugly. It's dumb. It is. Yeah, it's unfortunate. They just never know

what to do with that, right? The theme is, a hotel. Yep. Here's a big white, featureless hotel. Enjoy.

It really is. There is zero draw. Like, you get, you walk down the strip, and you're like, all right, well, we got MGM Grand. Oh,

we've got Excalibber, over there and New York, New York. What's on that corner? I think just hotel. I will give them this. They're the first, they're one of the few hotels that give you free parking still if you want to just park there, which is what we did yesterday.

That's the way to do it. Yeah. I think that is the only one on this trip. Yeah, there's one. Let's see, we had two places. This and the fashion mall place, that has free parking as well. But everything else is like 20 bucks an hour. It's stupid. Anyway, we're walking down past the flamingo, which is not leaving, everyone.

staying right there and so we're walking past that and this car a convertible with a couple of 20 something girls in it okay all all it's like 10 o'clock in the morning but they're all ready for the for the rest of their party day like they're just sure are they wearing sashes that say bride and entourage or none of that right slot or something it was more just like I don't know they just had these like tight mini dresses on they just looked like they were going to the club and I'm like Dude, it's 10 a. But whatever, that's fun. I don't have coming home from the club at 10.

Yeah, that could be it. I have no judgment for them, but they sure had some for me. So here's what happens. Tar goes past, and the girl, one of the girls yells, quit bringing your kids to Vegas. Like that. And I got kind of, I turned, I got a little Papa Bear kick in. Oh, geez.

And I turned around. And there's a fair number of people on the sidewalk with us. We're not packed. But where's a bunch of people walking. And I turned around and made some. comment. It's in our Discord, but I can't remember what the exact words wore. It was basically like quit bringing your sorry

used ass to, there's something like that to Vegas. I said something loud. Oh, God, really? Yeah. And as soon as I said it. Oh, and then I went, and F off. I didn't even say the F word. I just said F off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Guy, about three, four layers of people behind me, I hear him go, Woo! It made me laugh so hard, dude.

It made me laugh. I mean, it helps soften an otherwise annoying moment, but I was just annoyed with her. I'm like, I'm going to the M&M factory. It's freaking. Yeah, exactly. Like, you think this thing is made for adults to go to? The Coca-Cola place? Yeah, there's stuff for kids.

Is there still a Sega arcade in the basement right there? It's a manifolds. What's it called? It's a closed thing. Yeah, Ross dressed for less or something. Marshals, Marshalls, yeah. Right. It made me sad.

I walked past her with the kids like some old. man telling stories, and I was like, when I was in my 20s, Sega had a big underground arcade here, and they couldn't believe it. They were so excited to hear that. Like, why'd they change it, Dad? I don't know. No one really knows. No one was told what happened. Anyway, as a result.

And it's 10 a.m. I mean, you know, if it was midnight or 11 o'clock or something, and somebody said, hey, kids shouldn't be on the strip this late at night with people yelling cities in your mouth and they're heading out. then they're handing out cards with nudie girls on them. Yeah. Then you can say, yeah, you're probably right, but still F off. Yeah, but still F off in the morning. And come on. Yeah, either way, F off is what I was saying to her. So F them and their stupid freaking takes.

Anyway, it was really great. There was also a great shirtless guy at the container park. Again, a great place for kids. Container park, very kid friendly. Yeah, lots of stuff. Oh, great toy store there. Again, if it's still there. Is it still there?

It is still there. Yeah, toy store is still there. I got candy stuff and donut stuff there. and they got a big area where kids make giant Lego blocks. Oh, yeah, a little climbing thing in the middle. Yeah, tons of kids stuff. So again, and that's downtown. That's still for kids.

Oh, my gosh, kids are in the, I can't believe there are kids in this world. It's crazy. I know. Insane. Anyway, we're down there in this shirtless guy, container park, who looked like he was not, he was three sheets of the wind,

kind of not altogether. He would see any woman that walked by, including my daughter, including my wife, including every other lady that walked by. he went men are not worthy for you you're they're never going to be worthy for you oh my god he just kept saying it just kept saying it it was really weird so that was cool and he was not i mean he was a nice crazy guy that's what i like about some crazy people they're very nice for whatever reason i'm hearing they're all going to laugh at you all going to laugh at you

it's like they're never going to be word no man will be worthy of you beautiful lady that kind of thing and they could smell speak for yourself buddy yeah speak for yourself dude then the other thing I wanted to mention is van has a name for Vegas he calls it Vegas he can't say he can't put a V just cannot do it so the whole time and there would be times

we're like in on the strip in Vegas where he would say when are we going to Vegas and I'm like no buddy this is this is Vegas we're in Vegas yeah little of Vegas he goes he goes bagu can we go home and do another Vegas I'm like this

is this is literally bagus we're in with this is all the bagus you're going to get dude yeah he never could quite get it he was thinking bagis was something other than walking down a street looking at giant fountains and oh and he hated the sound those fountains made by the way the oh really you know the towards the end of the song where it starts go like the big circular one kind of thing hated that it was club cover of his ears yeah really bugged him just a little sensitive to it i guess wow technically i mean you're on the stripy we're in paradise but you know, whatever. Yeah, that's a good point.

Las Vegas, but, you know. Nobody would believe me when I told them that trivia. Really? I go, you guys, we're not in Vegas until we get to, like, right around the stratosphere, there's a line. Yeah. And then you're in the city of Las Vegas. Then you're in the city of Las Vegas, yeah.

But we're in this place called Paradise. They're like, no, dad, of course it's Vegas. The whole strip is, it says, there's a sign out front says, I know. That sign is also not in Vegas. That sign is in paradise. That sign is incorrect, but no one wants to take a picture in front of a sign that says, welcome to fabulous paradise yep that was a real to the internet then kind of moment for me i did explain of course of course and then you took screenshots of the page and texted it to each

of them yeah that's what i do i got to make sure everybody absolutely knows the truth i'm a truth teller brian that's what i are your truth spreader that's right i spread the truth truth like hot butter all right the other thing uh oh and i already mentioned it i just am sad i didn't get to hang out with any of our people down there yeah you know what you did this was this was not a let's do a meetup kind of trend this was a hey let's you know let's give taylor and dylan some time to be adults and not be parents for a little bit and uh i just thought in four days i would find a two hour slot you know i just thought i'd find something but i didn't i mean i'm even trying to figure out like we're going to be there in june almost uh yeah actually a month

from now i'll be flying back potentially we'll see that might be changing a couple dates But looking forward to that trip as to just like, here's a Vegas trip that's not a Viva-TMS Vegas trip, where it's more like, ah, hit the pool for some just relax time, not have to think about, all right, do we have enough mic stands? Or, oh, where's that cable? Or is the projector thing going to work this time or whatever? It's like just a relaxed time. And I'm hoping, like you, hope I get to spend some time with Mitsul and James and Svatt and Shio. everybody we know out there, but they understand.

Yeah, they're all fine. Like I talked to James here and they're on text and I was like, okay, maybe tonight says, all right, just let us know we have jury duty. I wonder how that went. I got to check in to see how jury duty. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. Which, you know, is probably as a, is he still an elected official? He's still

on the council? No, he's off. No, he's off. So I wonder if you're once a councilman, you feel like you can never figure out a way to get out of jury duty, you know what I mean? Like I would think, yeah. I would think, yeah. Exactly. I mean, maybe it becomes an even bigger deal because you don't want to be the former city councilman that got out of jury duty.

Yeah, right? Because now you're in the tabloids or whatever they do. Exactly, right, if there are tabloids and bullers. Yeah, do they even do this anymore? I don't know. Yeah. The Boulder City Examiner. Did you do much lifting during TMS time, that sort of stuff?

I did a ton of lifting. People probably pissed off that I didn't do any Marvel Snap streams because I said, I said, Brian, And I said, yes. Brian, I says, I says. Brian, I says. And I basically hit lift hard the last three days. I've done 19 hours of Lyft so far this week. Probably another hour today.

It's a lot. A lot tomorrow. Yeah, I need dough like anyone, Scott. I need dough like, and, no, this is June is the month where I have to pay all the licenses. I have to pay CSEC twice a year, but I have to pay ASCAP BMI. and one of my seaside payments in June. And so it's like, let's, you know, let's make a whole bunch of dough to pay for that. All that music, all those covers, all that stuff, you guys, that don't come free.

Exactly. It ain't free. Surprisingly, again, with 18 hours of stuff, not really any good stories to tell. I met a lot of cool people, you know. I drove another exotic dancer to work in another completely silent ride just because you start off. going hey how's your day going good yeah and if they don't if they don't say how's your years going then i take that as a sign okay they want to they want a silent ride or you know just listen to music right totally fine with that sure but then you get the people who are like

oh my day's going great how about yours or oh well my day could be better i'm like oh no what's going on i drove i drove that woman yesterday she had uh she was just uh hanging out with her partner and and showing her pictures of her cat who i guess she uh she lost recently they were just crying over pictures of her cat. And then a song came on from Laith Cole, I think. Laith Cole? Leith, ooh, L-E-I-T-H-something, Cole? Lateh-Cole is what's coming up in my memory.

And she started singing along with it. I'm like, all right, this is good. This is brightening her mood. Excellent. And pulled up to her house just as a song in. I said, wow, couldn't have timed that better. She's like, no, that was awesome. That's great.

So, yeah. That's great. It's a little karaoke trip. But no weirdos. No weirdos. I don't get it. They were all in Vegas. They were all in Vegas, apparently.

Yeah. Well, that's good, though. 19 hours. I'm fine not having whack-a-doodles in my car. You know, if I have a fun story to tell from somebody who's fun and great, great. But if I have to tell a story about, oh, there was this dude in my car smelled like the ass end of a brangutan. Oh. Yeah.

Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. Well, good. Well, we had fun in Vegas. Brian had fun in Denver. In Denver. Yeah, Denver. And we're good.

Oh, and just a couple of quick food things. If you're out near, like, you've got to stay off strip south over near the airport area. Yeah. There's a couple of really great places to eat that we found. And one was the Broken Yoke, great breakfast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, in the town center over there, the, the, the outdoor mall thing. outdoor mall thing that place is great team and i have taken we've driven we've like taken lifts down

there to specifically not eat at mandalay bay because the food was better and cheaper there yeah that's the other thing of price is so much better there yeah um we had another dirt dog while we were on the strip there's another one of the food courts there and uh uh the other place we ate was a Thai food place that was in the most hole in the ground freaking strip mall but the food was so good is that The taste of Siam? No, it's called D.E. Thai. Like the letter D, the letter E, Thai. I don't know what it means.

It's just a weird name. But a little tiny hole in the wall, amazing Thai food. So cool. Oh, very cool. Yeah. So if you're out there and you're looking for some. And that's another thing is that we're not very expensive

compared to the rest of all of Vegas. Yeah. You go to a Thai place in resorts world, for example. You're going to be paying through the nose for, for Thai food and probably not nearly as good as some little family-owned hole in the wall in a in a badass strip mall or whatever there was a there was a point in all of us where Dylan um bought just got a slice of pizza and a breadstick at a sparrow in the food court and he's like that was 18 bucks oh my god I'm like I know dude there you go welcome to Vegas it was long gone

or the $3.00 buffets and everything's cheap because they want your gambling money. They don't do that anymore. Nope. Nope. Not a thing. But anyway, it was a great trip. Had a good time.

Beautiful drive up and down. Went through a crazy rainstorm. Did you stop in St. George at the good Taco Bell? We did stop in St. George, but did not do the Taco Bell. We went to this little cafe thing that my wife likes a lot. So we did that instead. But I thought about it. We almost did.

And then what else? Oh, we stopped at a point. place in Scipio, Utah. Just to pee and get some pretzels. And, man, what a weird place that was. I got to, there's a whole, there's a whole morning show on just talking about that place. Really? It's like a gas station combined with a hotel.

So it had like six rooms on the side that you could rent and have it be like a motel on the side of this thing. The front of it's all gas station and convenience store. Total gross mess in there. the cheese from the nacho machine that all these places have was all over the table and floor. Oh, God. It was really weird. It was like being in a, I don't know, like a, like Blood Simple again or something. It's like a weird Cohen Brothers movie.

It's very odd. Oh, God. I kind of want to make it a goal to stay there one night just once. Really? Okay. Seems antithetical to me and what grossed me out the most. It really does. Yeah.

I don't know why I'm so drawn to it. I got to try it. Anyway. that's it and all she wrote let's get amy in here oh yeah um i'm sure there's other things that will come up because there's all these other things i saw a lot of weird stuff you know yeah we had a moth that wouldn't leave us alone that's a whole other story like we we fought a moth for like four hours that's that's a weird thing really yeah it's very is very odd my cat can dispatch one of those in about two minutes we should really needed your cat

should have sent her over there here's this one of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Join us now, won't you, in a little reading time with, I was going to call her Miss Amy, because that sounds like somebody who would pull kids aside to have them read. It does. Yeah, like she's got her own kids TV show where she reads books. Yeah, that's what I said. Oh, she hung up.

Why? Wow, because Miss Amy really pissed her. She really does not like being told. Very bothersome. Well, maybe she's having a kids TV show. Shame on you, Brian. click maybe she's got a some sort of outage i don't know let me uh pause this while we find out here hold on one second chat she says dang it yeah oh there you are hi hello

what happened there i just restarted discord and everything worked i swear i said all this up as per usual this morning but yeah the goal is you're supposed to blame guidelines and uh yeah You're supposed to blame Chuck. That's my understanding. The way this is supposed to work is Chuck is to blame because, you know, we learn this from Mark and Nicole. Anyway, it's good to have you here. How was your week since we last? I guess we just talked to you a week ago now that I think about it.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's not really much difference for me other than, you know, I didn't have you guys to listen to, which is a whole sad. And I kept looking for a stream. from from Brian and and like I was like I was like honing my decks like okay maybe today oh then I'm glad that I'm glad I didn't well you'll be happy to know what little time I had to myself during the trip I read I was reading books the whole time oh look at you yeah I didn't so what were you reading so I've been reading Scott Sigler's uh infected

series I started the first book I guess there's a three of them I'm I didn't even know that when I started it. But it's this kind of dystopic zombie alien thing. And I love those. So I'd love a good genre pick and that's what I'm reading. And it's very good so far. So I would highly recommend it. I'm reading it on

Kindle currently with my eyeballs because audiobooks make my mind stray. I cannot stay focus. So I have to read. Anyway, I'm enjoying it. It's very good. If you like that kind of stuff, I think it's a little older now. Maybe I don't know, maybe

2011 or 13 or something like that. But it's very, very good. If you like, you know, dystopic novelizations of life, if there was a zombie virus, then you're in. You're all in there.

And it's great. Very cool. Yeah. So, you know. The Guardians of the Galaxy brand Bendis series. Oh, very nice. I picked up,

I went looking for some Scotty Young, like one of his graphic novels. the young Marvel or young X-Men Ventures or whatever it's called. Didn't find it, but I found this Guardians of Galaxy trade paperback that's got the Angela introduction, Todd McFarlane's movement of Angela into the Marvel universe from his universe. I didn't know they did that via the Guardians of the Galaxy. At least this one was introducing Angela. I don't know if it was like a reintroduction because I could have sworn that it happened way before. Well, this was, this was

Because Marvel owns it now, right? They have the rights for her. They own, they own Angela now. Which used to be a spawn character. Right. And I could have sworn that she, like, she became Marveled back in the 90s, early 2000s. But in any case, this is a really good story about Angela and the Guardians.

Funny enough, that's funny because prior to me leaving and a little bit while I was gone, I'd been replaying that Guardians game. Oh, yeah. Just with all the Guardian. hype going on. I thought, you know what, I never finished that. Let's get back to that. That game's great, dude. It is. It's great. Yeah. I haven't played it. Do you think that,

do you think that Scotty Young like does young things? Like, do you think he does that on purpose? Like, just to lean into his last name? Into his last name? Oh, I see you're just saying, um, no, I'll bet you just,

he just started doing that and is like, oh, funny, he does these baby versions of characters and he, his last name is young. I'll bet it wasn't that, you know, I don't know, maybe. Happy happenstance is all that is, probably. That'd be like someone with the last name, Johnson, making a lot of penis jokes. I just don't know if that.

That's right. So, all right, well, let's get to what you brought. You brought some sort of reading material with you, yeah? I did. I did bring some reading material. This book is another of the Fantastic Strangelings Book Club gets. So we can go ahead and play the clip. Here comes your clip.

I was in Sackville Street that day to interview for a job. People often ask how one gets a job at a bookshop like Sutherans. In a particularly dark moment, when I drifted into some far corner of the internet on my search, I saw an advertisement for a bookshop seeking an apprentice. It wasn't a particularly good advertisement. The pay was Victorian, the expected duties nebulous, and the whole thing had an air of desperation about it. More comfortingly, however, no prior experience was necessary, and within a day I'd received a call asking me to attend an interview with the manager.

On the day of the interview, I was early, striding confidently at the double door, I gave it a hearty push, the kind of push someone might make who you would hire on the spot. It didn't move, instead rattling about noisily. I yanked in. By this point, I could see shadowy figures inside staring icily at my abortive entry attempts, but I persevered. pushing the right-hand door, I stumbled inside, mumbling a half-hearted apology, which was swallowed up by the diorama stretching out before me. It's the smell that hits you first. There's something wistful about old books when they're gathered in one place. They have a faintly unsatisfied smell,

as if they're all distantly aware that they've missed their chance to be a worldwide smash hit. I love that. That's awesome so far. What am I hearing here? This sounds great. Yeah. So this book is called Once Upon a Tome. the misadventures of a rare

bookseller by Oliver Darkshire and it is nonfiction, it is his memoir about obtaining and eventually keeping and training to be a bookseller at this rare bookshop called Sutherans

and it's as funny as that bit is. It is you know, it's very, and the narrator is also him. So again, it's got that, it's got the benefit of him just sounding like he's telling you a story

and it's it's great it's full of that sort of raw rye drittish yes words words are good uh drits you never know what the drits well that's my favorite

kind of British humor by the way is the dry British humor is my preference so that's good is there a more British sounding name than Oliver Darkshire by the way Oh, I can't. If there is, I can't think of one. I mean. Darkshire.

Good Lord. He's like a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, right. He sounds like a raid. Yeah. Is there a darkshire tavern or am I thinking of something else? It sounds very. It sounds real, doesn't it? Yeah.

There should be. If there's not, there should be. It's a, he's a raid team in darkshire tavern. Yeah. Write the campaign right now. Oh, oh, you know what? Oh, there is. There is.

Darkshire. Darkshire in, see, previously called the Grand Hamlet, once quaint little woodland village in duskwood, but has been fallen in literal dark times, blah, blah, blah. Okay, good. So I'm not crazy. I didn't remember darkshire. That's great, though. That's great. Now I'm looking at the map. I remember questing in Darkshire. It's fantastic. Nicely done. Well, this sounds like a lot of fun. And I don't know. Do you feel like, I don't know, British, why is everything British better sometimes when it comes to books and reading and stuff like that? What's the deal with that? Is it just us? No. I think people in particularly British

people who sit down to put pen to paper are very, they can feel the poetry of certain words and you know, like that would have been a very easy scene for him to describe, right? Like, oh,

I freaking tried to open the wrong door and rattled it like an idiot and then I stumbled through when the next one opened with no problem. That's how an American would describe that scene. And it still kind of paints the scene for you. But just the way

he crafts the phrasing and his prose is it's just lovely. And that's what a lot of it is like. And the entire book is, like I say, it's a memoir and it's sort of a collection of his

anecdotes of becoming a rare bookseller. And as you could hear in that clip, he did not set out to do so. He just needed a way to pay his bills. And hilarity ensues, right? Like this kid comes in, he's

got no experience. He has no idea. He's just like, yep, I saw the advert. Hello. And there's this, it's exactly what you would picture an old rare bookshop. At least in my mind, it's exactly what I would picture, because I did

picture when I read it. But it's just filled with stacks and stacks of dusty tomes. And he tells all these little great anecdotes about, at first they sat him at this desk at the very front of the shop. And it was

a desk that they had acquired and it was like Victorian. And it was actually a writing desk made for young ladies. And so it was this teeny little desk. And he's just, you know, I'm picturing like this awkward

gangly 20 something hunched over this teeny little minuscule desk and having to smile and help would be patrons as they come through the door you know and it's and as he progresses in his

training and whatnot he gets to go out into the field and you know say oh this person says they have a rare copy of such and such go go visit their estate and he has to tramp through brambles and bushes and whatnot to even get there i mean it's you know it's it's it's it's it's it reads like uh almost not an episode of faulty towers but it's it's it's kind of there

it's not as slap sticky as that but it's it's it's got that same flavor to there's a there's an intro or sorry the forward in the book um it says a note from the author supervisor this i guess this is the person that maybe you worked for at the time um it says that that bookstore has been around since 1761. Oh, wow. Good Lord. It's old. That's really old.

You know, you think of things that are old. That's freaking old. That's an old book story. 1760 one's pretty damn old. Yeah. Of all the aged things, that feels pretty aged to me. Oh, yeah. Well, that's one of the things when I, when I traveled over there, is that some of just

the houses that people actually live in, not historic buildings, but just the houses, are older than our entire. higher country. Yeah. Right. You know, I mean. I mean, well, think, you know, there's a very important date coming up when that store was made about four years and five years from then.

It would be 1776. And then we would have some serious business happening over in America. But this is prior to that. Right. We didn't even exist in any meaningful way. Well, unless you were a native here and everyone came in and took your shit. But prior, you know, post that, America was nothing yet. It's amazing.

And it's still there. still a bookstore. Crazy. Nothing lasts that long over here. You know, then freaking border. They keep knocking things down to turn into condos. Do you think they'll ever be like 300 years from now? Someone will go, I can't believe Barnes and Noble is still here. No one's going to do that. No, but there might be like in, you know, in, in Virginia, there might be a cafe that was open or something that was open when the country was founded, still open or something. That's true. There'll be something somewhere. You're right. James Town or something. Yeah, they've got Colonial Williamsburg is still there.

And some of the original structures are like the governor's mansion, things like that are still the original structures. Sure. Sure, sure. But yeah, I mean, they've been made into historical monuments. So, yeah. Yeah, I doubt that anything that's just normal, everyday, passerby kind of buildings will will last all that long. over here just because we like to

we like to pave paradise to put up a Vegas sign yeah thanks Joni Mitchell yeah we appreciate that what's that covered by Adam Duritz and Michelle Branch wait is the parking lot one is that the right song yeah and the

Counting Crows also right well Adam Duritz from the Counting Crows yeah I didn't know I didn't know the Counting Crows song was a cover I didn't know that oh yeah yeah Johnny Mitchell is every song ever made a cover I feel like there's so many now. It's crazy to me.

As a matter of fact, yes. All right. There's the answer. It is called Once Upon a Tome, the Misadventures of a Rare Bookseller, and it is only 966 on Kindle, which is like 27 bucks off or no, 17 bucks off the normal price of 27 and is available there or, of course, audio version of it as well. Go check it out. It sounds fantastic.

It's quite short, and the chapters are really short. So it's the kind of book you can just kind of pick up, read a little bit and put back down, and you won't be lost or anything. It doesn't, it doesn't really have so much of a through plot as it does just a collection of, hey, this crazy thing happened to me while I, you know, at work. Seems like perfect fodder for an eventual BBC eight episode series, you know. Right? Yeah, I pictured the same thing. I'm like that, especially just that opening scene, I can just picture him stumbling through and some. awkward, foppish, British guy.

Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, and the music, I can hear the music. I'm telling you, it's like made for this. I don't know why it doesn't exist in that form already, but do check it out. Available now and up on quicktms.li. So the link is there right there for you. If you want to just click it and go. Amy, it's always good having you here.

Oh, and you won't be here next week. You've got a graduation. Congrats on that. Your son's graduated. That is true. Thank you. Yes, my son is graduating from high school next week. So I will not be here. I will be sitting in a giant arena.

We have lots of, you know, sweaty teenagers graduating and all of their 10 relatives apiece. Yep. Oh, God. It's kind of weird, but I'm like, okay. We do the same thing here, and I hate it. I could not. If there was one thing about child raising children that I, that annoyed me the most, it was their high school graduations for all three of them. Drove me crazy.

All of them were a mess. All of them were too many people. All of them were like long and exhausting. I hate that whole thing. And every one of my kids after went, that was kind of lame. We probably could have just not gone to that. They need to do, like make it so that you show up.

You don't have to sit through the whole, you know, the salutatorian, valedictorian speeches and stuff. You show up for the 10 minutes that, you know, five minutes before, five minutes after your name or the kids name. They're not even five minutes after. Why stay after, right? Five minutes before your kid's name. Oh, that will be at exactly 917.

Great. We're going to show up at 912. sit down, yay, pick them up and go. Like have a reserved exactly, a reserve time, Ryan. Throw your hat and then the go. Yeah.

Right, exactly. 100%. I'm a vote for your plan and send it to the Senate. I'm not going to let my kid listen to this episode because he's mad at me that I'm making him go and I'm like, dude, it's a milestone.

Come on, just humor me. I also made him go to the, you know, like he's an honors graduate, so he had to go to the, they had an honors night And that was probably much more what you would be enjoyable to go see. Because you kind of get to go and sit there and be proud of your kid, but they only let two people go. And so now I'm like, okay, we've got, you know, my mom and his dad's mom and, you know, Chuck and freaking everybody else in the family that wants to see him in his cap and gown. So let's all go and take the pictures.

Take some hot, sweaty, freaking Georgia photos after out in the sun. Oh, my God. It's going to be hot as well as in there. Jesus Christ. Yep, you got some fun ahead of you. We'll enjoy that, and we'll miss you, but we'll see you the following Thursday. And we wish you nothing but the best. And grats on the graduation.

It's awesome. Thanks. Have a good one. Bye. You too. Bye. Okay, there's all up now. Yay.

You know, it's funny. I said Michelle Branch. Vanessa Carlton was the female vocalist on that. And I always thought it was Vanessa Carlton featuring Adam Duritz, but it is the County Crows featuring Vanessa Carlton. Oh. And was voted one of the worst song, actually the worst song of the year 2000 by a couple different sources. Oh, I don't think it's that bad.

It just got overplayed a lot. Yeah, it's a little sanitized compare. I mean, it just doesn't feel like it's as protesty. It feels like, oh, is that nice? They put up parking lots and they made a nice tree museum. stuff as opposed to the what was supposed to be the biting sarcasm of the Joni Mitchell original. It's like that

kid's song, Better Run, Better Run, something Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like about a mass shooter kid. Yeah, yeah, but it's like, but they make it sound like a nice romp through the spring park or whatever. Exactly. Yeah, Bobby Frankenberger puts it best. It's like the least Counting Crow song ever. I am a huge Counting Crows fan.

I've seen him, seen him twice, and easily one of my least favorite things the count that counting crows has ever done. It's so Mamby-pamby. And even as a cover fan, it's like, eh. Yeah. It's one crow that shouldn't have counted is what you're saying. Yeah, that's count one less crow.

Yeah. If we can have that one. Play Omaha again or play Rain King again or any of them. One of those and skip the cover of big yellow taxi. Nice. Well, good deal, everyone. Oh, you know what? We got time for one news story.

Let's do one news story. it good morning good morning everybody in the news this morning good morning it's time for the news and it's brought to you by core tonight at 5 p.m mountain time scott what is on tap for core tonight well turns out a bunch of stuff dropped this week including not not exclusive to but the of course the the the aftermath of a very very popular now rated highest reviewed video game of all time uh Zelda tears of the kingdom or legend of Zelda tears of the kingdom so you think oh that's enough for a whole topic and you're right it would be normally but we also got some weird mixed blizzard news for example we got blizzcon got announced oh really don't know if i'm

interested yet still waiting to kind of fill it out but we'll see but anyway blizzcon happened in november and uh what would make me interested in bliscon what makes me interested in bliscon is less about blizcon and it's more going out there with tristan and doing all this stuff that tristan and i do when we go out to bliscon seeing everybody doing the amusement park stuff blah blah blah that's Oh, yeah, con. Sure. Whatever. Well, because one of the things like Overwatch 2 dropping their PVE plans will make a lot of congoers not happy. So that also happened this week, and people are pissed because the entire reason they were sold on the idea of Overwatch 2 was Player v. Environment Content and they canceled it now. Me included.

Yeah. That sucks. It does suck. So there's a lot of stuff around that. We're going to talk about it'll be a big full show. And if you are interested at all in the world of video games, you need to change. you need to check out core check it out frogpants.com slash core or wherever you get your podcast cool all right let's do this story here where in the hell to go here it is here's your first story or your only story of the of the day okay all right a 14 year old arrested for stealing a

Nashville school bus and they led police on a chase all along the i 40 uh which is like their big long uh the freeway highway yeah teenage boy facing numerous charges after allegedly stealing this bus from KIP Nashville schools during a reckless drive through West Nashville and leading police on a pursuit along the Interstate 40 Saturday afternoon. This is actually a week ago now. According to the Metro

Police Department, the 14-year-old took the bus from KIP or KIPP College Prep on Murph-Murf, Murfisboro. Murphy's, Murphysboro. Murphysbro, Borough. Burrough. Murphysboro. Murphy's-Boe Pike on

on Saturday, May 6th. It's a weird name. name. Just short for turnpike. This was just before 4 p.m. So school was out. He was living in Antioch at the time in state custody. He hit the diesel fuel pump at Casey's Market in Centennial Boulevard.

So basically just on the run, kept filling up the thing with gas. After that, they said the 14 drove into another place. He had a car in the process. Oh, geez. They followed the bus onto the interstate where it traveled at speeds between 60 and 65, which may not sound much, but for a bus that's fast as hell. That's really too bad. That is extremely fast, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, with something that does not navigate or turn, you know, super well. Yep, it's gnarly. They also deployed a spike strip. I love these. I love a good spike strip. Yes, yeah. The teen driver allegedly saw the strip, so he slowed the bus and attempted to turn around in the middle of I-40 West.

At that point, authority said, not a great turning radius, believe it or not, with a bus. No, not really a turn-on-a-dime kind of vehicle. No. Oh, geez. So at that point, authorities said they ran up to the bus, broke the glass on the door, used a taser on the boy. Taser on the boy. Yeah, tase that boy. That's right, because he was trying to operate the bus and arrested him without further incident.

The 14-year-old was booked in a juvenile court for vehicle theft, aggravated assault, evading arrest, reckless driving, driving without a license, and so on. Wow. Yeah, you're going to have a real fun couple years there, buddy, until you're 18. So enjoy. It's too bad he didn't, you know, it's Nashville. He could have at least picked up. a couple bridesmaids parties and drove them around in the bus

while he had it. What was he thinking? Missed opportunity. It's a most popular place for those. Yeah, I agree. Funny thing, this reminds me what's going on here right now. While we were away, some breaking news in my city of South Jordan, Utah. Oh, really? Okay. There's some kid running around here.

Maybe he's 14. I don't know. Blow darting people's pets. Oh, my God. Yep. Now he's not killing him, just hurting him. Yeah. God, if he hits, you know, the wrong part of it, he probably could kill them. But here's what he's done. So not only is he doing it to people's pets, if they're out straying, he's doing them,

but he's also gotten a couple people that were while they were walking their dog or cat got hit. And they still don't know where it came from. They can't figure out where he's, where he is. Oh, little shit. Little shit is right. And then he's doing it in people's yards where he can see stuff. So we've been really careful with the animals and stuff about, you know, trying to make sure they're not expected.

or whatever. Then he got some ducks and geese over at the lake. That's a felony. Yeah. Yeah. He's screwed. Protected. Yeah, exactly. I, you know, I'm not always a fan of like, oh, well, whatever the crime is, the punishment should be the same thing. In this case, totally all for it. I think, uh, yeah, line up a bunch of people, a little blow dart firing squad on this little kid. Yeah. Protect his face. It's fine. Pull a little shield in front of his face. We're not trying. We don't want him to die.

Okay. Yeah. No, no. He can have ice cream after or whatever, but we're going to shoot him with darts. I agree. Exactly. Or just the threat of shooting them with darts. You know, don't really do it. But line all the people up and then, all right, now you're going to jail.

Just kidding. You're going to jail, but you pissed your fans, didn't you kid? Yeah, go to jail. Yeah, you shit yourself, didn't you? Yeah. Well, anyway, it's a stupid thing. More on that as we learn more. We're going to take a break.

When we come back, my sister Wendy will be back. Yes, that's right. One week later, she's got more. more advice. We've got an email that all of us got. It's a great email, yep. And Wendy has ideas. So we're going to talk about all that coming up here shortly. Before that, though, a musical selection from Brian's vast, expensive library of music. Brian, what do you have? That's right. Brand new song. So, you know, this doesn't come from the vast thing, came from today. Got released by the syndicate, I think this morning or yesterday morning. This is a brand new,

listen, this is your summer jam right here. I like a good summer jam. So get ready for this. It's a song called It's Always Warm in San Araya. I don't know where San Araya is, but it sounds, it sounds nice. It sounds tropical. His brand new album, debut album, is called Sunshine State of a Happy Camper, and it comes out June 23rd via MNRK Music Group. This is, I don't know, this is a really cool, a little bit of a funk vibe to it. I dig it. It is Cody Lawless is the artist formerly performed under the name, Known, K-N-O-W-N.

And then too many Pokemon people were trying to catch him. Now he just goes by Cody Lawless. His debut album again comes out June 23rd. Here is, it's always warm in San Araya. No, no Because life don't Last, ever I fall into your grip

Taste his words To follow my lips No, no It's warm and sad, yeah Tires are blue and bright And I fall Light, my love

It's warm sad or yeah I'm falling for you I found it for you Whether it's day and night Don't matter to me It don't matter to me No, no

The way you touch my skin and light Only matters to me Most to me Only matters to me, eh, eh Because I've done lost forever I fall into your grip, taste these words, I follow my lips, no, no. Because life don't last, ever. I fall into your grip, taste these words, I follow my lips, no, no.

It's warm and sad, yeah. Tears are blue and bright, and I fall out light, my love. It's warm and sorrow, yeah. I found it for you, I found it for you. Oh, oh, oh, oh. It sounds like a couple 13-year-old boys with very deep voices. live.

This is the morning stream with Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbett. How about a booby? And we've returned. Tell me who that was one more time. Yeah. Cody Lawless,

spelled just like you would think you'd be spelled. Cody Lawless, song, it's always warm in Samurai coming from his debut on, which comes out next month, called Sunshine State of a Happy Camper. Nice. It all sounds great to me. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. There are way worse things to listen to. Like you said, good old summer jam. Just get you in the mood for a nice upcoming summer. You should hear the song Brian sent me. Good Lord. That was great. Oh, is that great? I love the fact that the original title was Elongated Muskrat. Yeah. And it's

going to be my new phrase for that one person, elongated muskraine. Ah, I see what you've done there. Yeah. I like it. Elongated muskrat. Well, speaking of things that live in Minnesota, I don't know what. That is no transition. Wendy. I mean, random. Not a chance. Zero fall. I mean, muskrats. Yeah, muskrats. There might be. There might be. What do you guys deal with the? I got voles. Vols. Okay. Oh, voles. Yeah. And they're just cute mice with a slightly different face. I thought they were moles. I thought everyone was saying moles.

this all the big ones. I did too. The first time I heard vol, I thought, well, why would you come up with an animal name that is the same as another animal that lives underground and just change the first letter? That's dumb. It's got to be a mole. We have a lot of vols here too. Do you guys

get, how are you on the spider front in Minnesota? How's that treating it? Oh, I mean, they've taken Hill 125, but we're hoping. I'm telling you, I have never I never experienced so many spiders as I did in Utah. That was always, it's like spider heaven. I don't know why.

Yeah, you want to know what's worse, freaking Nevada. We saw so many spiders this weekend. And the greatest thing happened that just about caused a scene that would have made the nightly news were at this Thai place and a cricket got on Kim's leg. She didn't know it was a cricket. She thought it was a spider. And Kim, Kim and spiders do not get along. So she completely lost it and just started like.

flailing and kicking and moving around, I'm like, we're all going to die if that's a real spider. We're all dead. But then I got under there and looked, I'm like, no, honey, that's just a cricket. And she was fine after that. But boy, if that had been a spider. But we saw all kinds of weird bugs like that. That's just the

west. You know, that's what we have. It's the dry. They're not, they don't have trees to hide in. They're just in your face. They're just out there. Yeah. They're making it happen. There's always dead bees in the pool. That's the worst. I don't always live fairly north of everyone and their things don't get as big there in the north because it freezes in the winter doesn't have all year to grow

like when you were in uh was no where were you uh uh uh what was vermont cheese when you were in vermont cheese when you were in vermont um yeah all you got is what like uh a couple of mosquitoes in the summer and everything else is frozen or whatever black biting flies there that was a thing those are no wow you don't want those yeah no that's why every place has its ones that's why You just have spiders, and Kim hates them, so that's funny. That is funny. She can't stand them. She grew up in Mississippi where bugs are bigger than dogs, but for some reason, spiders are really her problem.

Anyway, well, it's good to have you here. And it's, of course, my sister Wendy, she does, she's an actual therapist, but she comes on here on Thursdays and helps all of us schlubs out with our problems. Once a week. And today's no different. It's time for the schlub helping. Yep, the slub helping. You guys ready to have your slub helped? Well, goodness.

We got an email. from somebody we just thought was delightful and also Wendy thought it would be a good one to cover. So we're going to do it. This is from Natalie and here's how it goes. Hi guys. If you have any, I would love your input slash thoughts

slash suggestions on this. If you had to do had in capital letters an eight to 10 hour road trip with your mom, how would you survive it? Now there's more stuff here that matter.

The trip is four to five hours to the destination. So it's about like going to, I don't know. I don't know where it's going to Vegas. Yeah, not quite to Vegas, but yeah. Yeah, a little shy of that. Visit and stay the night with more family and then drive four to five hours back the next day. So five hours in, one day, five hours back.

That sounds like a nightmare all on its own. Already, yes. Yeah, one day and then turn around and come back. No. It's not enough. It's not enough. Anyway, then she says this. Some conditions apply four people total, your spouses and your mom and your dad slash stepdad.

Number two, only have standard radio to listen to. So I guess FM or whatever. Nope. AM, just AM. Because chances are, four to five hours, you're going to be going through some areas where you don't have a radio station. Like Scipio.

Car is a crossover SUV. I don't know what that is. Does anyone know? Trying to give us the space ratio, like how much space. Crossover is just kind of like a smaller SV. The small little ones, like the Kia. like if this was a miata

yeah yes right yeah yeah they're popular now so there's some leg room they'll be fine physically I think is what that's about okay then it says mom is religious she's 70 plus in age and believes we are living in the end times sure and then finally well second to finally

mom gets car sick help me Jesus sorry mom gets car sick so she can't read or take her eyes off the road she's like British TV dramas and mysteries or she'd like sorry she likes british tv dramas and mysteries she's like it's a little bit weird um the gilmore girls and other standard wholesome uh stuff that's rated g or pg so no podcast that contain political adult or worldly sensitive material she would find issue with or be confused by half of the tms content to give you a baseline that is a go with the flow type personality and not easily offended wish us luck i am Open to Ideas, L.O.L. Love the show, though, Natalie, Alan and the Cats. Alan and the Cats was a great band in the 90s.

I really enjoyed their work. But they struck out on their own, though? Not as good. Not as good. Yeah. The Cats by themselves, what a waste. Yeah. Anyway.

So this is interesting. We have all been on this. We've all been on this road to Abilene before. For sure. That's what it feels like. Nobody wants to go on. Yeah. Yeah.

Nobody wants to go on this, including the people that want to go. they don't really want to go at least it feels that way to me so wendy what do you tell people like this because a lot of dynamic a lot of family business going on in one five hour compressed ride you know listen i've been on so many road trips in my life and i the key is a little planning so this email's a great way to start this process a little pre-planning a little uh preemptive work um will go a long way. So if you just think you can get in this car and drive this and have like, you know, your cheese it's cheese in a can spray. Yeah. Not enough. You have to have more. Don't forget the corn nuts. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And really strong smelling beef jerky at any given moment you open up.

Okay. You have to plan. And it sounds like I really appreciate all the conditions. That's really helpful. Okay. So let's just take a couple of, you know, The radio situation. How can we manage the, in essence, no radio. That's in essence. Because any music you're going to listen to on a radio is full of commercial. It's going to annoy the crap out of everything. Yeah.

I cannot even imagine doing this. Okay. So how can, let's brainstorm together. How can you preempt the radio problem? What can you plan for or do differently? I mean, you could swing by a Best Buy and pick up one of those, plug it in FM broadcast your iPhone through a 1-8 which is exactly what I would do

worth it 10 hours if I throw this thing away and never use it again afterwards fine worth it yeah and then you can totally can control your playlist that way and give mom what she wants without or being offended really and also meet her in the middle on stuff yeah that's a I would Brian's right you that's worth every penny of the 15 bucks or whatever you're going to pay for it right whatever it costs yeah Yes.

And here's the thing. There's another preemptive, I want you to think about this as preemptive delight. And no one's thinking, oh, this will be delightful. But we're going to preemptively create delight on this road trip. So think about a podcast that is rated G that's perfect for a 70 plus world is ending. Like what would bring her delight? She can't look around, she can't read, she loves British TV. We know a few things about her.

What is something she would like? Oh, my gosh. I mean, all I can think of is like, could you do this American life and just make sure it's nothing that that is to world-endie or political inclination? I mean, you'd have to pick through that to make sure. You'd have to find the episode you want. I'm telling you, there are some British podcasts that would be wonderful.

that are all sciencey or just like kid friendly my kids love i'm trying to think of what the name of it is but it's basically like a news quiz show that goes through some history thing and i can't remember what's called but it's great and they love it it's done in the british accent it's hilarious so like find a kid kid podcasts sometimes they're way better than adult podcasts like i'm telling you so find a kid friendly history british based something podcast, which will just bring to light. Listen to it first, though, maybe. Yeah, turn it out.

Make sure. Get a couple of those under your belt. And by that thing, Brian's talking about, like, do not leave this to. No, no, don't do it. I mean, this isn't 1980. You, people can't go this long without listening to something.

It's not safe. Yeah. When you and I were doing that in a motorhome, it was a muskrat love on repeat on the, oh God, Captain. Captain and to Neil Sedeke, baby. Or the Neil Sadeca original. Oh my gosh, you cover again. But it was like, it was like that was on that whole eight track, because it was an eight track, was on repeat.

And so it was just over and over and over. And you're, you're bringing up the wheat thins with the spray cheese, the squirt cheese or whatever. Holy crap that brought me back. That is so mom brought a box of those and three cans of that to every freaking road trip we ever did as kids. And do you know, I've even looked at the ingredients. I don't know what's in that, but I'm telling you, I do not go on a road trip without it. It is a staple. It's not.

It's definitely not cheese. It's definitely not cheese. I don't know what it is, but it ain't real cheese. It's awesome. And with a wheat thin, there is nothing better. Anyway, yeah. Okay. So, again, the goal here is delight.

The goal is, and here's something notable. You are entertaining yourself. That's key. You know why Pixar and Disney, make those movies with funny adult. stuff that only an adult would see. It's because they got to get you to take a kid to that movie, right? So find a podcast that's going to meet your mom's needs, but also delights you. Okay.

So that's the point. Get your music squared away and have something that she might be really interested in that gives her. And here's the thing. I get that when, how you've described your mother here is that, you know, she's sensitive. you've got to be careful you're not going to offend her right whatever um and so this is the easiest thing in the world to do is to expose her to something new that meets her standards but is different than what she's expecting that might be really fun for you right and you can take a hint right she likes murder in the british way she likes kill more girls or whatever you know find something

that that but that is also entertaining for you um it's going to be key there. And then dad's easy, so that's nice. Okay, so then what else do we have? We've got, there's lots of things you have to stay away from. You can do that. Just having the long playlist that is 10 hours worth of delightful introductions

and fun music. Okay, she's 70 plus. So speaking of Captain Tenil, is there a playlist you could put together of music she has not heard since she was a teenager? There you go. Interesting. See, notice how I have flipped this whole thing from how are

You're going to survive, too. How do you make this so fun for your mom? Right, right. Look at you. It's because Mother's Day was recently, damn it. Yeah. That's right. But I'm telling you, you were going to save yourself by doing this.

It's a really good idea because you get her not even thinking about any sort of controversial topic. You get her thinking about, oh, my God, when I first heard this song, it was at the sock hop where I meant blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And there's no person who doesn't want to share. a funny memory or share something about their life. And I'm guessing mom doesn't have a lot of time where you are listening to her and taking her seriously if she's trying to tell you the world's ending all the time. Yeah, right.

Right. So you are going to create a scenario where she gets to be, you know, clever or funny or walk down memory lane or, and you're listening because it's not totally triggering and annoying. But you've got to create a mood. Why is there music in every movie? Because it's a mood creator. Even the absence of it in some films is a mood creator.

Like the whole point of it is when it's gone. And it's usually a murder scene. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's rough. So guys, no music in your car for 10 hours is a murder scene. Yeah. There's reasons.

Yeah, exactly. Or irritating, scratchy radio. Like, don't do that. No. Plus it changes all the time. Five, six hours. You're going to run out. a signal and then change channel. Exactly. You're going to be constantly, most of your time is

going to be spent looking for another station. Yes. Okay. Here's another piece to do. What did she cook you or make you or what snacks did you? Like, so obviously I can give Scott wheat fins and a spray can of cheese. Or a Doritos. A Dorito salad. Let's do Dorito salads in the car. And then again, my kids would say it's the stinky beef turkey that they buy because it makes me want a barf every time. Anyway, but like, take, like, what is something from your childhood that was your mom expressing love through food or her own thing? You know, maybe she really liked Twinkies and knew she was hiding them.

And so bring her a box of Twinkies. So this sounds like a Mother's Day trip. I get it. But what you're doing is you're trying to preempt and prevent kind of what typically happens. You're braced for it. And so this is just, you know, adding a little. and joy at the front end. And maybe you could ask dad.

If dad's happy go lucky, just say, Dad, do you know what mom's favorite music was when she was a kid? Or you could ask him to participate in some way or what was his favorite music. Get just, I'm telling you, you get old people to think about the old days. They will not talk about the end of times. Oh, it was Freddie Lord and the big band experience in the 1940s. Like, whatever it is, whatever it is. You just got to find it.

Yeah, take 1942 that podcast we talked about, right? The year of 1942 and all the stuff that happened. Yeah, I'd love that one. There's so many things you can meet them where they're at. Here's the problem. When somebody is, I'm making a guess about what his mom is like, you know, I don't know. She is not one thing. That is her current iteration of the world is scary and I'm clamping down on the way I see it in order to feel safe, right?

Right. And so what you're reacting to is that. You're grabbing to her clamping down, right? But there was a day when she didn't have any opinions. There was a time when she was open to the newness of the world. You're just, open that a little bit. And here's the truth.

You're just doing a fun psychological experiment. This will make it more fun for you rather than dreading. So find a podcast called The Case for Atheism and turn it up to 10. No, that's a bad idea. Don't do that. Maybe not that. No, I love this idea because what I'm gathering here, Wendy, tell me if I'm wrong, but it does seem like you've made you're you're flipping the script a little it's like

we're all dreading this trip with mom but now we're saying we are going to make mom we're going to make this trip great for mom and that will make it great for everyone and we genuinely want it to be great for her we're not doing this as a fake out or a misdirect you're not saying okay how can we what how can we build some sort of wall that prevents this from being the nightmare it's like all right how can we make this fun I love it Which, by the way, building a wall for someone, guess what it does? It makes them double down on their crazy. Yeah.

And also probably don't mention building a wall too. Don't talk about walls. So I'm glad you phrased it away, Scott, because this is a helpful way for people to think about sort of child, especially adult, parent-child relationships, is no matter what, you can be 100. and your 120-year-old mother will still be in the position of the parent and you will be the child. Age is irrelevant here. The hard thing is when you're an adult

and your parents are whack-a-doodle and you're just like, what? It's because you still, on some level, need them to be the safe place a parent is supposed to be and what this represents is that she's not, that she actually can't meet you where you are at. This is every kid's need,

every kid's desire, meet me where I am at. And I'm asking you to flip that on its head from 30 plus years of your life to meet her where she's at. And that is actually what all humans need. It's just really difficult when it's a parent child, especially in the adult stage of things because we are kind of still wounded from maybe how they didn't meet us way where we're at as kids. And here we are still in that same arm wrestle of like can you really see me and accept me so when she does any of her stuff that's doubling down or religious or whatever and you are just feeling like I still don't accept you I still don't actually see where you're coming from that's that could be part of it I mean I don't know this for sure

but it's pretty universal and then so what happens is this is just sort of instead of having that be the dynamic you're triggered by you're just deciding oh I'm going to be the adult here and that's that's a flip most people don't do well doing that because we all still crave having a parent take care of us or care about what we like you know so you really are flipping it it's legit flipping the script yeah and it can turn into i think probably a real good time now if you've got other little kids in there you might have more of a contradiction if that makes sense like you've got mom who's in her 70s who her memories of good times or the 60s uh or whatever you know and you're kind of building the trip based on what you said but if you had like some five six seven and eight year old kids in there you know they may be like put on whatever something cool fortnight music i don't know i don't know what they want now you know something grandma's going to have no concept up like she's just going to be like what why these kids you know but it sounds like they're not going to have that problem like these are adults helping adults

you know they just have to keep and this may trigger a little bit of like Are you telling me I have to take care of my mom after I have had to take care of her emotions for, you know, right? So this could go real deep for someone or it could be pretty surfacy. You're like, oh, I've literally other than Mother's Day thought, what does my mom need? You know? Yeah. And you meet that need and you can see the magic happen. The other thing, too, is to have a couple of things in your pocket that are ongoing friendly.

So, for example, you take a comedian, if you study what a comedian does, they will reference back to something they said earlier to complete a full circle of a joke, right? Yeah, sure. And that is so funny. You're all on the inside. You all get it. Like, there is a reason that gets sometimes most of the laughs, right? And so think of it in terms of what along the way do we keep that sustains the sort of, I don't know. So I'll give you an example.

And this works especially well with kids, but it might be funny to do with your mom. And that is, and my kids adore this. It is what we do every time we're on a road trip. And it lasts the whole 21 hours, okay? And that is to play the license play game. Oh, gosh, yeah, sure. Where is this from? So little kids, you would maybe get a map out and have them color the state, you know.

But we did this road trip, I don't know, a year ago or something. And we found a Puerto Rican license plate people. I was so excited. We found Hawaii. Like, those are miracles, right? Yeah. And we got all 50 states by the end, and you would have thought we won the Flippen Lawyer.

And it's because it took 20 hours to do. And everyone would find one, and we'd added to the list. And then we went, we drove past what is that called? What all the president heads are? Oh, no, Rushmore. No, Rushmore. What's cool about this? that, what's great about that is that even if you are against the idea of doing that,

like, you're like, oh, my God, this is going to be so horrible. I'm not going to do it. As soon as you do one, you're like, well, crap, no, I got to keep doing it. All right. Look, there's an Ohio. Oh, look, there's a Vermont. There's a Connecticut. The most hardened teenager will succumb.

I promise you. Dang it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And so one of you just pulls up your little notes and keeps track of the things. And we literally started stopping at places just to go around the parking lot to get more names or more mistakes. Really? Yeah, it was very funny.

And they loved it. And they loved it. And they love them down the aisles. Yeah. Yeah. And then a book on tape that if, you know, a podcast or get an audible or something, that might be some kind of fun British short story, something, right? Thinking about that, because I remember doing a very long trip to Vegas with some friends of ours in the 90s. and they were a couple

and the uh we took turns driving from somehow I got the overnight shift which was horrendous because everybody was sleeping but me but um while one of them was awake he wanted to listen to the dark tower audiobook yeah which was read by stephen king and number one it meant we couldn't have any conversation because you'd have to right you'd have to like wave to get them deposit and all that stuff uh it was we were at right in the middle, we didn't start the beginning of the Dark Tower. So it was like right in the middle, book three or something, which is where he happened to be.

This was the worst thing ever. And so, yeah, maybe not an audiobook or a podcast where you miss something if you have a conversation during it. Or even more importantly, never read, never get any audiobooks from Stephen King. He's an amazing author. But the ones he reads himself are terrible when he reads them. They are terrible. His voice just is not good for this. there's that there I'm grateful that the dark tower exists in like a whole other

recording for him but whoever bought the version that had Stephen King talking you made a terrible error it's a mistake yeah yeah it's so bad anyway so again British accents telling you it's the magic that's the magic potion um yeah so so maybe there's that so here you've got a game to play that kind of is ongoing you have something interesting you're listening to you've got music that can bring you back you can play like if you were a teenager in the 90s and your mom was just like you're music and you're like you know you could say okay mom do you remember this song and you can play some of your old stuff right like don't think of it as trying to entertain um well okay it is about entertainment a lot less than it is about survival

And I think that's what naturally happens to us. We kind of hunker down, like, oh, we're going to do this. And we're already expecting it to be terrible. You're going into it expecting dread or expecting, yeah. Yeah, and then you'll get it. Yeah, you'll get exactly what you expect, yeah. Right, you might be disappointed. I think there's another thing that happens, and maybe if this is the premise to go with,

this might be helpful, is just if you're only getting one side of a parent, it's because the environment might not be introducing other sides to them. That's true for you. So if you're having a flashback, because you're in a car trapped with your parents while they're driving, well, maybe there's some history there, right? But also, maybe there's some history for them of being like, oh my gosh, these kids and their complaints and they have to pee every time. Oh, yeah, right. This might just be a nice way to break whatever was the history, or maybe you never did it and this is the first time or you always wanted to or, you know, it's a, it's a chance to build some relationship now and one unfortunately adults who watch Fox News too much or or just

spend too much time thinking about the things that make them feel safe and like their world kind of gets a little bit smaller they're trying to share their world with you when they're telling you the world is terrible and you should you know ban books or something you know like they're they're going to their place of connection that sucks right that sucks but guess what you probably are too in your own version of this. And so we're just, we're going to just throw the dude the opposite. This is the opposite.

It's, I want to share your world. And what happens when you do that with people? And this happens in political fights all the way down to a family fight. When you step in their shoes or you get curious about their perspective, they soften. The only reason anyone has to double down is because someone is attacking or they have to, in defensiveness, we act differently.

Yeah, they feel like they have to defend themselves. Yeah. And it destroys relationships. It really does. And so you're just kind of bringing the different energy. If that requires taking a little gummy on the way, okay. As long as you're not the one driving. Yes, correct.

Yeah, don't be driving. It sounds to sound like they are. It sounds like dad's the driver. Mom's the stare out the window person. Yeah. So maybe a little travel, um, connect four or what's the battleship?

I have one of those. Do you need it? I'll send it to you. What's the battleship? You do need to be able to, like, have a little thing in front of you for pegs to go into for battleship. But, uh, yeah. Yeah, no, there's a travel one. But you're in the backseat.

I'm talking about the backseat people, right? Yeah. Like, have a little, have fidget spinners. Have stuff in your hands. Do your knitting. Like, create. So, and if you want to read and like, then that's just maybe the calm music playlist, right? Just prep for breaking this up with different things, right?

and yeah and then there's some really great gas stations i don't know where they're traveling but if there's some really cool yeah especially and they're so weird they're they're like you i was telling brian about the one in scipio it's like between beaver and cedar city or something i don't remember where exactly but this thing was like half motel half gas station all of it was weird i felt like i was in a strange movie or something like a tarentina movie was being directed in there. It was really weird. And I love it. I love that kind of stuff. I love weird roadside attractions. Maybe plan a couple of those. So, you know, mom can get out and walk a little bit. Stuff that maybe she'd be interested in. I don't know. Like, yeah, plan ahead. Instead of just dreading it and getting in the car going, oh my gosh, we're not even. We haven't even left yet. I already want to die. Like, this is, this is a real brain flip. If you can, if you can do it. Good luck. Having just done one. just one of one of the things that gives you one hour yeah one hour less of your 10 right yeah and you know see if you can enjoy yourself i will say this the the fastest road trip i've ever been on

was when we took misha with us in 2019 to Vegas and the reason that was fast is because misha always wants to have a conversation about something yeah um she's she's just ready to talk and that was the fastest that's great so if you come at this with like stuff to talk about and you've really aimed it at her interests and all of that stuff, you're going to, the time is going to fly. But if you're all dreading it and you're trying to tune in the FM station that just went out because the mountains in the way, like what a nightmare. Or even if you just put on your own headphones and ignore everyone, you know, you really are

getting into the teenage role. Yep. Isolate yourself. There's some of that. There's some of that that's okay, right? But you got to give a little. Here, let me say this about Misha. Why that goes fast is it's not Misha talking about herself.

It's Misha asking you a million questions about you. And most of us don't get to talk about ourselves much. And if we do, we feel weird. But she has a way of disarming you to find out information. She's very good at that. Yeah. You know, something that worked for a couple of my trips to road trips to Vegas with the trivia guys was that we wrote, or that we had trivia questions that we asked each other over the course of the eight hours or 10 hours, right?

we had like games or trivia lists of trivia questions that one person would ask the other two would work on them. Then another person would have their list when they weren't driving, et cetera. And you could easily do something. You could easily find trivia questions that are maybe targeted towards their formative years, right, stuff from the 1960s or 70s or whatever that are like, oh, yeah, what, you know, what famous person said in 1974, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll open up conversation, get them to, you know, think about something else.

Yeah, a list of sort of, yeah, I love that. Anything that's going to, and you can say, like, there's landmines, right? You can find them. Sure, of course. And you know what question is not to ask. Exactly, exactly. And you can even just set a gentle boundary if someone wants to go off the rails and just like, okay, no, go back to this question and just pull back. Right.

Yes, exactly. Because sometimes the talking points that they have immersed themselves in at this stage of life are just on repeat, right? And so tapping into like old memory and music's the fastest way to do that is just you're going to get a softer, different version. That's why every kid dreams that their parents will tell them like something real when they were younger because they don't have a sense of them being real, right? they were your caregivers. They were grumpy. Why's dad always grumpy at Disneyland? You know?

Because he's hot and he's spending a billion dollars and it's not even fun. And it's not until you're an adult, do you get it? But you can find, you know, people love to go back there. There's some interesting work with retirement centers and palliative care

and it's this great combo of like recreating the decoror and the feel and the music of the era when they were younger. and their brains do so well, especially Alzheimer's care. And then there's also things of like, you know, stop straining to try to be in this moment. There's like a, because they can remember a lot of the older things. And then there's also this one where there's a lot of greenery and mixed, a daycare is in the same place.

So the kids are hanging out with the old people and the old people are hanging out with kids. And there's dogs and pets and birds. It's like chaos. But like, it's how we're meant to live. We're not meant to live isolated alone. And so I think of, you know, we're not going to have your 70 plus year old mom with us forever or your dad. You know, this may, I don't want to get all pressury on it, but like this may be your one and only road trip as this stage of life. And that's fine.

And it may be great. You never have to do it again. I don't know. But like there's a chance to sort of set a setting and be a little more intentional or thoughtful that, you know, it'll pay dividends. I agree. Well, we wish you luck on your trip. And I hope this, I don't know, this is a good, good lesson about all sorts of like flipping the script ideas. Oh, for sure. Just change, just change the dynamic, like almost forcefully, not in a negative way, but like, I'm going to change how this is. How am I going to do it? A whole bunch of positive stuff. You know, I don't

know. Well, and like Scott, you said scipio. It is definitely Scipio, right? It's pronounced Sipio, but it's got a C and it annoys me. So I say Scipio. But this is a great example of like, you can hear someone else's accent, but you cannot hear your own. Like Brian had to tell me that I mispronounce the word wait. Yeah, yeah. Right? You can't hear your own. And I think that is, this is relevant to everything.

We cannot see our own stuff here. Right. But if we try to see someone else's stuff and then react with kindness or intentional curiosity or, you know, trying to create delight, you'd be shocked at how that person maybe isn't always doing this thing that you're prepared for them to be annoyed. And I guarantee they're probably worried like, oh, I can't say one thing with these kids these days. They've got their own version of your accents annoying. So, you know, we're just going to all be humble about it. We don't pronounce the city of Scipio the same. No. And it's okay. You know, it's okay. It's

Scipio and Scipio live in the same universe. But we can't agree that any British Isle accent deserves to be heard. Oh, agree. No question. Hard agree. Especially Fern, who's my current favorite, Fern from Taskmaster, Fern. Oh, yeah, what was the last? He just said this on that.

Baker, Ferne Gulley. No, I don't know. Furn Gully. Yeah, that's it. Let me see if it's still in my search history. Fern Furn something Oh, Brady

There we go Fern Brady It's such a great It's amazing It's amazing So great Anyway Well this is great

We wish you the best And let us know how things go On your trip We'd love to get a little feedback on the On the back end of this thing And Wendy is always Always a pleasure

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Anything else you want to mention Before you go Oh no Happy May. We can talk about, if anyone wants to write in about a bad parenting moment, I had a really good one the other day that I am happy to share. So y'all can feel good about yourselves as parents. Why don't we? We should do that. Let's make that. Send me, send me anyone got a, I forgot or I failed to do a thing or I did the wrong thing kind of because the question I get a lot with parents is like, have I ruined my child forever? And so we could talk through that. Yeah, I would love that. I might have ruined my child forever. Oh, fantastic.

I never got those tennis pictures you tried to send. There was something wrong that day with your text. Oh, yeah. It's to repeat. It's just like. He looks like Bjorn Borg. Yeah. Yeah, he's been wearing headbands around his long, blonde, curly hair just the way

Giorn Borg does. And he's like, I like it. Yeah. It's a very 81, 82 kind of vibe. Visualize it. Yeah. Even though I've not seen it, I can completely visualize it. And then the other day, some ladies like, you know what I wish would come back, those halter tops from the 70s?

And then swear, two seconds later, I saw a bunch of April's Instagram and some others. And everyone's wearing a haltertop at these concerts. I'm like, I think they're back. I think so I'm thinking 78, 82 range is in. Yeah, which is weird because that's a ugly, that's a time I think of, not fondly. I go, what a gross time for fashion those particular years. Let's do it. Part you're in the middle, baby.

Have a fantastic week. We'll see you next Thursday by now. See you. All right. Cool. Brian? Yes, sir. Look at what we've done.

We've done a show. We brought it back. We could do it. It was like falling off a log. Yeah. Riding a bike. Falling off a log bike. What I completely forgot to mention earlier, and I can't believe it's already Thursday.

This is all feeling very weird to me. But you've got a coverville today, right? I do. It's so funny that you remember that. Yes. uh today the music of paul weller who's going to turn 65 next week uh you know him from bands like the jam and style council and yes they did put out that album called the bitterest pill or the song called the bitterest pill sure it's not jagged no jagged better definitely better yeah or little it's not jagged or little uh so it's uh the jam the style council and paul weller solo stuff all his great covers and covers of those bands and him solo tell me up today 1 p.m mountain time twitch TV slash coverville. I'm not doing I'm playing Marvel Snap but I'm not playing

against people while the stream is going on because I cannot concentrate on both. And like between songs where I have to back announce it's like I don't know, put Beast right there. Oh, all my stuff just came back. Oh, put him there or this there. Sure. No, can't do it. So if you want to play against me, we'll do a match after the show, but I can't do it during the show anymore.

Look, you know your own limits when it comes to that. I know my own limits. Yeah, exactly. I made some really dumb moves during some games with Red Fraggle. It's like, oh, God, of course. Well, we can't have that. No. Yeah, so that's today.

One p.m. Mountain. That is correct. Coverville over there on Twitch, Twitch. Twitch.combe slash Coverville. As I mentioned, Core tonight, we'll have all the other stuff, film sack this weekend. Brian and I, Dunaway, and I are going to stick around after FilmSack Saturday and do. our play retro we miss this week so you'll still get a play retro before the week's out and uh what else skim tomorrow just tons of content we're back in the swing oh huge thanks to i forgot to mention this

giant huge thanks to everybody for helping us uh get through the kickstarter for a dungeon murder we're done we ended yesterday at five and uh we hit our goal in fact we 400 percent at our goal which means lots of extra stuff unlocked and uh that includes the final level which had a big fat challenge coin in there, which I'm really excited about. So now the real work begins fulfilling that damn thing. So, right. Keep your eyes on the prize. We'll let you know what it happens. And if you're like, oh, I forgot. I meant to do it. I didn't do it. Don't worry. When this is all fulfilled and done, we'll have some in the store. That's how it always works. Once we get everybody taking care of who is here in the beginning, we'll put some out there and you can get them

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Or did we decide? We could do the second part of the Quantum Leap Jimmy thing. Oh, we could. That could be fun. Let's do that with the Evil Leaper while everything's still fresh in our minds. Yeah, I think we should. We're going to go right from Jimmy to the Evil Leaper.

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Yeah. Did it just through our little giveaways thing. We have a whole giveaway's channel. I put stuff up there all the time as well. You should be over there if you want to win cool stuff and check it out. All right, that's going to do it for today's show. I think I covered everything, everything but a song. So you've got one.

You covered everything but the cover. Jim from Northern California wrote in and said, hey, Scott and Brian, on May 21, 2023, my son Alex will be graduating from California State University in Chico with a bachelor's degree in nutrition and food science. I'm so proud of him. He's the first on my side of our family to get a college degree. Now he has to go out into the world and start adulting. I'm confident he'll do great in whatever path he chooses in life. To help him along, I set up a disposable email to help him find a job. If anyone in the Tadpool community knows of any jobs in Northern California and food industry-related quality control, preferably in wine or beer industry, please email, Alex Really Needs a Job at gmail.com.

Or just send him a congratulations email. He'll be very surprised. Thank you, sign Jim. Scott, can I get a Veronica sausage? Oh, of course you can. Here's one. Where is she? Sausage.

No, that's not it. Hold on. Sausage. Yeah. Still longer every time. Longer every time. That tape is just getting stretched. So Jim requested covers by the chats, Australian punk band The Chats.

Here's the thing. They have two covers. One is of Metallica. The other one is ACDC. And neither of them really I felt like we're good enough for the show. sorry, Jim. But we're going to still go with another artist from Australia, who sometimes is very punk.

On this cover, she's a little bit less punk, but I still love her voice. Courtney Barnett contributed this song to a tribute to the Grateful Dead called Day of the Dead from 2016. It feels like a, it may not be congratulatory, but at least it's not a song like, oh, I'm sorry, she left me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You know, for congratulations on graduating. here is Courtney Barnett and new Speedway Boogie. All right, that'll do it for us. We'll see you guys Monday for TMS and all the other stuff I mentioned. Have a great weekend. We'll see you then. Please don't dominate the rapjack if you've got nothing new to say. If you please don't back off the track, this train's got to run today.

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it's hard to run with the way to go the other hand I've heard it said that it's just as hard with the way to land who can deny he can deny that it's not just a change of style

one step done and another begun and I wonder how many miles I spend a little time on the mountain Spend a little time on the hill Things went down We don't understand But I think in time we will Now I don't know But I was told

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It's got no signs or dividing lines very few rules to guide I spent a little time on the mountain I spent a little time on the hill I saw things getting out of hand

and I guess they always will I don't know but I've been told if the horse don't prove you got to carry alone. I don't know whose back's that strong. Maybe find out before too long. One way or another, one way or another, one way or another, one way or another, this darkness has darkness got to to build One way or another

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One way or another This darkness got to begin Thank you. If you like what you just heard, there's a very good chance you will like all the shows on the FrogPants Network. Get more at FrogPants.com. Ferguson, Herman.