The Morning Stream - TMS 2470: Permanent Nubbins

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Your mom is Batman. Vegan Clare, Bacon Zoe. We've gone full Nick Cage! How Old is Six? Skewompus Laces. When is Van Going Home? Blind on Purpose for 15 Minutes. Up Someone's G-String. Akwabirdfina. Legless Mona Lisa in a Hellscape. Are There 15 Spiders On The Floor? He's Got Sonar Crap. Katniss and Link 4ever. Sniffing Wood with Bill. Creamy Bananas with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, your mom is Batman. Egan Claire, Bacon, Zoe. We've gone full Nick Cage. How old is six? Skiwampus Laces. When is Van going home? Blind on purpose for 15 minutes. Up, someone's G-string.

Aqua Bird Fina. Legless Mona Lisa in a hellscape. There are 15 spiders on the floor. He's got sonar crap. Catnus and Link forever. Sniffing wood with Bill. Creamy bananas with Bobby and Moore. On this episode of The Morning Stream.

61 I enlisted in the War of the Rebellion at Warsaw in Benton County, Missouri under Colonel O'Kan. We went to Cold Cap, fought the Dutch, and cleaned them out completely. Let's talk about Super Mario's Raccoon Skirtum. She's only your girl, because she ain't had a taste of the Duke yet. This is the morning stream. Hello everybody and welcome back to TMS. We hope you had a nice memorial day here in the States. Yes.

You know? I know that Canada and others have different days for their memorial type days, but ours was yesterday. Okay? Yeah. And so that's why we had nothing. We did nothing, no show. We did no show. But we're back and we have show.

Now we have show. Did you do anything fun? Did you barbecue? Did you do anything cool? What did you do? Did something fun, did something cool, but it wasn't barbecuing. We went to the National

Cross League Finals game two, the only one of the three game series that is played in Colorado. The Colorado Mammoth soundly defeated the Buffalo Bandits. Sadly, we lost game one, so that means it does get pushed to a game three, which is this coming Saturday.

Oh, only three, though, not a series of five or seven or whatever. Okay. Nope. Only three. Thank goodness. Let's just make it believe it. I kind of wish more national sports would do that. Just do best out of three.

Why not? Yeah, right, exactly. If you can't decide your series of, well, I mean, obviously you sell more tickets, you sell more concessions, you sell more t-shirts, the longer the team draws it out. If they have to play at least four games, then it's revenue. Yeah, what am I kidding? It's all money. It's the reason they do. Yeah, of course they do.

that's interesting so once they is this the first for the mammoth or are they you know returning champs or what's that they're returning champs they're defending they won the title last year first time since 2006 my gosh so they won 2006 and then again in 2022 and if they beat the bandits it'll be a repeat of what they did last year where they beat the bandits in the finals to take the championship so wow it was one of the most aggressive games uh we've ever seen There were, I can't tell you, at least 12 penalties on the bandits for slashing and roughing and cross-checking and stuff like that. And a lot of fights, like knock off the helmets, gloves off. Wow. Yeah. Like hockey level, well, old hockey. They don't feel like they do that anymore. Yeah, not so much anymore, which is good.

Yeah, I think it's good. I think it's making people live longer, you know? Yeah, exactly. But as a player and as an old like hockey game video gamer, I like me some fights, you know. It just adds a little bit of a little bit of seasoning to the action. How was your Memorial Day? What did you do? Did you barbecue?

Did you? So we had huge plans with all the kids. We were going to do brots and do this whole barbecue thing. Kim was going to make like Cajun corn and all. We had all these plans. And then one by one, all the kids had something come up. Oh, no. Not things that were like better deals, but like Van was six, so she didn't want to take him anywhere.

Nick and B had something going on with one of her friends. And Carter, of course, is in Europe. And so Kim and I looked at each other and went, you know what I think what we're doing here. Because we spent the whole week, by the way, babysitting my niece the entire weekend. Okay. And that was a lot. She's a sweet kid, but she's a handful. She's six.

How old is six? Okay. Oh, yeah. That's not an age where you can just say, all right, go entertain yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And when Van was around, she was like, when is he going home? Like, she didn't want to, she didn't want to share the spotlight.

I didn't want to share the attention. Yeah. So it was a little crazy. I really love Olive. She's a cutie, but she's, she just takes, you know, she takes some effort. So by the time that she left, which was yesterday early, and then the rest of the day was starting to pan out to be not as many, you know, the plans that we're going to work. Kim and I looked at each other. We're just like, we're going to go to the pool and then we're going to come back here and we're going to barbecue for ourselves.

And we're going to sit out here on the patio. And we're going to have, like, a proper. empty nest moment. And it was great. It was freaking great. That's cool. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, real low key, but, you know, high key enough to have had a good time. Plus, look, the, she made the same food she was going to make anyway, and I benefited directly from that. So that was really. Yeah, and you guys, you know, you have the kids over often enough that it's not like,

oh, my God, we missed our chance to get together. And, you know, there's one chance that we had for a holiday holiday get together. It's like, no, it'll happen Thursday. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the other thing is it's like, oh, no big deal. Like Wednesday, tomorrow, Van and Phoebe are here all day because Taylor has a shoot. And then Nick and B were here on Sunday anyway, doing laundry and having dinner.

So it's just like they're always here. It's not a big day. Yeah, exactly. So we had a nice little. Who needs a memorial day? Yeah, just a nice little couples day, you know? It was nice. Nice.

I enjoyed it. Real quick here, though, I did a weird. thing. Let me tell you about my weird thing. Oh, tell me. Tell me about your weird thing. And don't worry, everybody. We do have a morning form winner. We'll do that in a second. Just relax yourself. Best part of that clip. Absolutely. I was blind on purpose for 15 minutes. Wow. Okay. Do tell. That's a good story. All right. So, yeah, let's just move on. We're done now.

That story needs no context. So I decided to do this thing where I don't know. I got in my head, but yesterday in the afternoon, we'd been out and doing stuff, like I said. And so I came home to get a shower and I sat down and I was going to get my, put my shoes on and, you know, just kind of get ready for the rest of the day. And I went, well, I wonder what this process is like for blind people. So I closed my eyes for 15 minutes as an experiment. And I just said, all right, I'm going to close them tight, not going to cheat. And I'm going to put on socks. I'm going to try to figure out where I've set my shoes down and then put those on without looking obviously because that's the whole point and then I'm going to try to make my way out of this room and into the kitchen and do all this

within about a 15 minute period just to have this like you know what's it like because I always think like does a blind person can a blind person ever live alone because will they ever know that there's 15 spiders on the floor no because no one's there to tell them you know what I mean? Do they need to know that 15 spiders, there's 15 spiders on the floor? I mean, maybe not. Maybe it's bliss to never see the things that the rest of us freak out about. I don't know. But like, I assume, and I know that there are, there are certainly people in this world who are blind and are very self-sufficient, live on their own. Yeah. When they're bumping around, do they, when do they know it's time to clean? When do they know that the toilet's got a issue? Like, when do they know

these things? And that's fascinating to me. And also, I really like respect it. It's like amazing that people can adapt like that. So I just thought for 10, 15 minutes, I'm going to be blind and see what it's like. And boy, I'm here to tell you, Brian, other than it was kind of, it kind of chilled me out because part of it is my brain knows I'm not really blind. So I know this is all going to be over a second. But part of me was horrified. I didn't like it at all. It's like, well, wait, which lace is what?

And then when I looked at my shoes later, they weren't quite right. And they were all squampas and everything. Now, I know, you know, blind people have a lot of time to adjust and adapt. And they do. I didn't afford myself out. I just gave myself 15 minutes. But I kind of recommend once in a while just it's a great way of putting yourself in somebody's shoes that you just have zero like idea how they live, you know? Yeah.

Because I can't imagine, you know, I can imagine getting around my house. I know my house well enough that I know, you know, where's this wall? Where's this railing? Where's the stairs? Where the door, et cetera, right? That part, no problem. but obviously not having, I'd have to turn off some sort of assisted, you know, haptic feedback on my computer, some sort of vocal, you know, reading things that are on screen.

I don't even know how I would set that up. So I'm amazed that people who are blind who are able to do this sort of thing and they adapt, you know, to this sort of, this technology to, to get this information in a different way I can't imagine using my computer or doing the things I do

without any sort of... Yeah, your normal every day just completely changes like a 380 million degrees difference. And like I follow this dude on TikTok and his name, I don't remember his name,

but this guy in TikTok is blind. He makes TikToks about how he does stuff as a blind person. And he always starts his TikTok with, I'm blind, here's how I read the paper. That's a guy. how he starts. So he always does, I'm blind. Here's how I do a thing. Whatever it is. I kind of love it. It's a great format. Anyway, that guy does, has some crazy stuff. Like,

phone assist stuff. He snowboards and he shows how he does it without running it. Everybody. He's got like this sonar crap. Like all this amazing stuff. Anyway, just wanted to share that. If any of you want to have a little experiment with yourself, see how you do as a blind person. Just go 10 minutes. See what it's like. Tina's grandfather was blind. And we were always fascinated by. the things that he'd that he'd figured out either on his own or gotten from other blind people that he knew but like folding basically you you fold your money differently for each bill see it's really easy in other countries where you have different sized bills but basically he would fold his dollar bills in a certain way he'd fold his fives in a certain way and so when he got

changed he'd say all right what did you give me here is this a five and these are ones you have of course trust that they're telling you that they didn't just give you you a stack of monopoly money but he would fold the ones in a certain way he'd fold the fives the tens all differently and so when he put them in his wallet he could just say oh well here's a ten dollar bill do you think the bank would have to like cross

stack it or something to make things eat like if he was taking a hundred bucks out in cash yeah how would they because they're going to go they'd probably hand them all the one all the you know all the 20s first and then say you know here's all the five there's all the ones or something oh gotcha Canadian bills have braille

says the chat that's cool interesting Do they, does that rub down after years of use? Do they like, is that what takes them out of circulation is? They still, or they now use that polymer business, whereas the rest of us, or well, I shouldn't say the rest of us. The U.S. still uses like a paper compound. A linen mix. Yeah. So I think maybe that's the difference.

The polymer let you have. Nubbins. Permanent nubbins, yeah. I don't know. That's fascinating. That's really cool. Accessibility with money. Who would have thunk?

Yeah. Not us, I guess. Not us. Not America. Listen, I'm loving paperless society, so the more of that we get to fine with. Yeah, yeah, I don't look, once in a while I'll have to have a dollar. Yeah, sometimes I'll take a dollar or a five out of my wallet or something. And my brain just goes, let's not, let's try to have a day without thinking about where all the places that $5 bill has been.

Let's try. Let's not be Scott Johnson for a day, basically is what you're trying to say. Yeah, try not to be like me. Because I always think about how dirty money is and where it came from and where it's been, always. Like, how much cocaine is on that 20? Yeah, somebody used that 20 to, like, roll it up and make a little nozzle snort for their nose and snorted coke off of it. Uh-huh. As far as I know.

I don't know. Nozzles snort, yes. Could have been up, but it's been in somebody's, you know, G-string, or it's been on the floor of a laundromat or in the bathroom of a freaking bar. I don't know. It's gross. Money is gross. then he's gross yeah venmo baby

Venmo me some money and then then we can cashab zel all that stuff all that stuff all of it's good all of its proper societal progress okay embrace it

that's right all right now we'll do the morning form and we will award a winner for everybody who's signed up for this thing stand back and check your personal

belongings it's time for the morning form the last one we did last week yeah was for the best Batman movie director

okay oh okay yeah right which basically also translates to who's the best kind of who's the best Batman sort of or at least cinematic Batman I don't know okay I mean I feel like an argument could be made that that Christian Bale was not the best Batman though that series of movies were the best Batman films for me who would you put in the in his who would you slot in if you could just take him As the best Batman?

Yeah. Other Batman's like if you could... Boy, I mean, Val, kill, no. That's a really good question. Kilmer was all right. That felt like a movie that could have... He wasn't... I didn't feel like he was a problem.

Outside of Joel Schumacher, that could have actually been done really well. I mean, Kevin Conroy, voice-wise, yeah, for sure. Because you need someone who's believable as the millionaire, playboy, blah, blah, blah. I feel like even George Cluny. in the right hands could have been a way better Batman. He's got the jaw. He's got the he's got the style that

feels like, all right, this is a guy who grew up with wealth and Yeah, those movies had a Schumacher problem, not a Batman problem. That's right, exactly. Yeah. But I don't know. I think yeah, Affleck, not bad,

you know? Shoot, this is a good question. Could have been okay. I don't think you, I don't think Bale was the one I'd pick, though. Maybe even Adam West, for a be it's sake. Put Adam West in a Nolan movie? That's amazing. It would have been great if we could have. Just to see how well that would have worked, right?

Yeah, I would have been down with that. I mean, obviously, that means it has to lean heavily into the cheese, but... Sure. Yeah. Well, sometimes you like a little cheese, you know? Little cheese. So our winner... Glad you didn't ask that question, because I'd have to spend a lot more time thinking about it.

Oh, yeah. Well, I'm glad I didn't. Um, here's, so Tim Burton, or sorry, uh, Christopher Nolan ran away with the vote, 56.9% overall. Yeah, yeah. Uh, second place, Tim Burton with, uh, 18.5. Matt Reeves at 8.3. Not, not a bad showing for Matt Reeves. Uh, no. Um, Chris McKay somehow got seven, or a 3.2% of the vote. And then it gets weird. Let me tell you some of the ones that people wrote in. Yeah, I'd love to know some of the right in, the right in answers. Someone wrote college humor. I don't know why. Is there a college humor bad man, because they've, they've, they've, they've done a,

a, you know, their version of Batman, sure. Somebody submitted your mom. Of course. That's probably the same person who does that for every feud for the survey that I do. Yeah. Someone wrote Robert Pattinson, but he did not direct, so I don't know why they put that in there. No. Let's see.

A lot of Bruce Tim references. Jay Oliver, I don't know who that is. D.C. AMU. animated am you oh animated i assume so is what that means okay they wrote in here lego batman but phil they put phil lord and christopher miller for lego batman they did not make that movie that was a separate dude who made that uh george santos also in here truth truth i think he directed all the batman yeah he's made them all like so you you could say his name and he really and is batman surprisingly and then my very favorite i haven't seen any

is an option. How do you never see a Batman movie ever, like ever? I don't know. I get those responses on the feud surveys as well. Like, I have never watched an animated program. What? Really? Yeah, I want to meet these people and find out more.

Never played a tabletop game. Huh? Yeah, explain yourself. That's good. So our winner today is Hushed Pixel. Hushed pixel Hushed pixel You're the winner

And if you want to send me an email Great, I'll send you one If I don't hear from you today I just got a busy day So it'll be at the end of the day But if I hear from you first We'll get you all set up And send out your Frog Pants Fun Pack

Right away This week's morning form Let me pull it up Because I forgot to write it in the thing How many hours do you spend a week Playing video games? Interesting, I like this That's a fun one

Your options are not at all one hour, two hours, three hours, four hours, five hours, six hours, all the way up to nine, and then ten or more hours is an option or other, which will be where you put the dumb answers. Yeah, exactly. I have never played a game. Yeah, exactly. What is video game? What is? Robert Pattinson. That would be funny. Anyway, get in there and fill it out. The morning, or sorry, frogvance.com slash the morning form.

What, you know, what, well, I'm sure it's average, nine of 12. On average, how much? Yeah, we're looking for average. I game for exactly six hours and 22 minutes. Do you want me to round up to seven or round down to six? Because I have a little timer on my watch that goes off if I stray past that. Oh, man. If I could, if I did that myself, I'd play a lot less games.

But this week is a bad week for this question because Diablo four comes out this week. Oh, right. Sure. Well, early access to it does, I guess. For those who preordered it, which you and I are those people. I think we are those people, yes. So that's going to screw up everything for me because I'm going to play a lot of Diablo.

Anyway, get in there, get it done. Brian, what happened? I heard you shot arrows at things. What happened there? I did, yeah. So Tina and I had a mystery date last week, and, oh, my gosh. Who was in charge? You or Tina?

Tina was. Tina planned this one. And holy cow, again, Tina knocks it out of the park with mystery dates. so she took me to an archery range like this little unassuming little place in this industrial strip not really strip mall but like you know these multiple industrial buildings all next to each other and had no idea I didn't know anything that was in this area

this part of town but we pull up and it's like the empty quiver archery range I'm like oh cool are we going to learn archery she's like yep I'm like oh my god this is so cool that's awesome yep I'd do the voice so um oh my god this was such a blast so you you know you walk in they give you uh they ask you if you're left or right-handed you get protective gear like a little leather thing for your um for your bow arm and then a little uh glove thing for your pulling the drawn the string back arm these are all official terms yeah

i learned all these official terms i used to know these i don't remember any of this stuff yeah uh years ago though the brace Thank you, Zoe. Bracer. Yeah, then the bow left or right-handed, obviously. No, I mean, you could rent a compound bow, but for, that pretty much was the people who are regulars there who had a whole different set of targets they were aiming at on a different side of the building.

Those guys all had the compound bows with this and that and like the quiver built into their, you know, strapped on and stuff like that. We had a PVC pipe coming up from the floor that we put our. arrows in. And so we basically had to stand on the line, wait until everybody was there. And then he said, okay, you can now do your arrows. And so you pick up an arrow. Yeah, you lock them. It took five minutes of training and we were there for an hour and a half or, yeah, probably right around hour and a half. My God, that was so fun. I totally want to keep doing it. I want to do it again. More bow. Maybe you'll become a bow hunter, you know. Maybe. Maybe, Brian, the

bow hunter. And I know exactly where I can get one of them. Uncore. That's right. Bo hunting. Bo, you can have a 10 second start. Start running now. Watch out, bow. Yeah, I'll let you run now.

The ultimate prey. No, that's cool. When I was young, when I say that, I guess I mean, late teens, early 20s, I was super into bow stuff. Really? Yeah. And I got into, like, some of that compound bow stuff. I never wanted to spend the real money people were spending.

But I had a kind of entry-levely thing. And anyway, we thought that was pretty rad. for a long time, and then I just suddenly stopped, and all this talk from you about it makes me want to go back and do it again, because it's fun. Oh, my God. Find a local archer range. Seriously, it was like $25 for two hours of fun.

It was just so fun. You know, like, I managed to get one dead on bullseye. I took a picture of it. I need to, I'll put it somewhere. I haven't posted anywhere, but yeah, Tina and I had took photos of each other firing our bows and stuff like

Katness and Clint Barton. Nice. Nice. Saving the world, man. That's right. Exactly. Got to pull out the explosive heads. Or Kate Bishop and Clint Barton or, you know, whoever. Sure. Whoever's got bows. Let's do it. She was more inspired by Katness. I was like, so what made you think about this or what, you know, why have you, have you wanted to do this? She's like, I have. And she said, well, it's mostly because of Katness Everdeen.

Like, yeah. For me, it's, it's right now, link. Yeah, Link. I want to put a spicy pepper and fuse it to my arrow so that I set the whole target on fire. Yep, that's how you want to live your life. I get it. Yes, exactly. Salt Lakers, we got an Easton Salt Lake Archery Center, temp archers, and Datus are three of the more closer ones. There you go.

Yeah, maybe I will. I'd even consider, like, if I can find a cheap bow somewhere, I would consider buying my own and setting up a little range in the backyard. This is awesome. Now that we don't have a dog back there that's going to potentially be. the light of fire. Oh, it's wild. Is it way up, that's way up past the airport? Really? Weird. All right, well, I shall

consider it, because that sounds like fun and you got me thinking about it again, so well done. Oh, my God, do it. Do it. You and Kim, plan a little mystery date of your own with Kim and take her out to her out. I could do that. She'd have no idea this was coming. I would totally blow her mind with it. Yeah. I'm doing it. We also had another little date on

Friday. This one, she knew about, we went to Alamo Draft House again and saw the new live action Little Mermaid. Oh, yeah. I hear it's good. It's good, but Scott, did you know that they made the mermaid plan? What?

Well, then I'm going to boycott Disney for it. I'm boycotting the entire entertainment. No, it was great. Oh, my God. Hallie Bailey, I think that's how you pronounce her name. Hallie Bailey has this incredible voice. And she's got this kind of like her eyes are set apart. So she's got this kind of exotic pixie elf kind of look already, which is kind of perfect for a mermaid.

But Melissa McCarthy was great as your Ursula, DeVie Diggs. I was wondering how they were going to do the animals that talk. Because for Moulon, didn't they eliminate the Eddie Murphy dragon? Yeah, they got rid of the dragon and that. Yeah. I'm glad they, I'm glad they didn't for this one, because Sebastian was great, DeVeed Diggs, who I think anytime Lin-Manuel Miranda is involved with something, and he wrote a couple new songs. Of course, there's a song with a rap in it. Oh, sweet, a little bit of rap. A little bit of rap. But anytime, oh, and Aquafina, if you don't like the Super Aquafina, maybe this is one to hold up on. Who is she? What's her character?

Who did she play? She's the scuttle, the, the seagull. Oh, okay. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it is the perfect role for her, but it is, you're going to get, you know, aqua bird fina, for sure. Javier Bardem. Oh, yeah, I was going to ask about that.

How is that go? Does he ever make anybody flip a coin and just about shoot him in the head with a cow gun? That's right. Yes, exactly. King Triton with a blowgun. It was really, really weird. Excellent. That's great.

I've heard really good things about it. So that surprised me. I thought we were heading forward, heading toward a dumper on this one, but it sounds like it's actually pretty good. Yeah, no. Really, really good. And I'm fully in.

I'm fully in on Alamo Draft House. I have zero things to complain about with Alamo Draft House. Even the one thing that I thought I would be irritated with is the, hey, guess what? Three quarters of the way through the movie. we're going to come by with your bill and have you sign it while you're trying to watch the most exciting part of the film. They are so non-intrusive about that that I don't care. They, you know, refill your drink.

You just put it up on the thing. They're like, oh, let's get you some more. They don't even say anything because obviously that would be irritating. They just go and get you more Diet Coke. The food is freaking excellent. I had a Brussels sprouts pizza that cauliflower crusts brussels. Prout's pizza with bacon and goat cheese, I think. Oh, all right.

My God, that was good. It was almost, it was almost Clareworthy, except for the bacon. It was like a mix of the vegan Claire and the bacon Zoe. Huh. It was basically what it was. Interesting. We'll call it the Chloe. The Chloe.

That's a great name for a sandwich, actually. I think it's all right. Oh, yeah, goat cheese, probably also not super vegan. You got to use that fake vegan cheese. This, this Hallie Bailey girl, she has the thing that, she's like, Furioso, what's her name? Candy her name. Yeah, Anya Taylor Joy. Yeah, the bitch.

They both have these eyes at her way out, you know? Yeah, yeah. I want all of humanity to look like that because I think it's cool. I think it is so much cooler looking than a boring freaking middle of the face eyes what the rest of us have. I think they're, they have one up on us. I think it's rad. I'm sure both of them will have lots of offers to create progeny that have the whineset eyes. Well, good for them, because I want to see more of that.

I've never heard of this kid that plays Prince Eric. Jonah Hauer King, is he any good? Yeah, I don't know. I think they just hired him because he's attractive and he can sing. That's really the, that was on the resume. That's what you had to do. Yeah, I don't know. Was he, see, has he been in anything else?

Little women? the TV show. Oh, he's been in Little Women. He's been in Little Women. But not the recent movie one. Dogs Way Home, so there's a movie I'm never going to see. Yeah. Agatha and the Curse of Ishtar.

Hold on fire. Oh, he was involved with the 2019, quote-unquote, live-action Lion King. Oh, what did he do there? I don't see any of here. Is it 2019? Is it 2019? The only things he shows here are

dog's way home a song with names and agatha and the curse of ishtar in 2019 i don't see anything else he did uh it's funny because on uh yeah here he goes it doesn't show what his voice was but it shows him as part of the cast and just the google so he's having a moment then right now he's having a moment yeah all right well good luck to him and her he could be your new singing action star is what he can do yeah i'm not sure because um the lion king cast that i'm looking at here lists Jeremy Irons, and I don't think he, he certainly wasn't the voice of Scar this time, so I don't know what his involvement. But this also lists Hallie Bailey, David Diggs, Aquafina, Jacob Trembly, who are all part of the little mermaid cast.

So Google, I'm not sure about your results here. Yeah, Google, you go to sleep, you're drunk or something. Right, exactly. Nice. Well, it sounds like a fun weekend to me. It was. It was a really good time. And then we did some Spider-Man trivia on Sunday.

Went back to the Elmo Draft House. They had a Geeks Who Drink, Spider-Man trivia event. And it was really, it's Geeks Who Drink, so really only three of the questions had anything to do with Spider-Man. The rest were Spider-Web, Glenn Miles, questions that had nothing to a Spider-Man. But we still killed it one. Spider-adjacent. Spider-adjacent. Do they do that in the theater?

So it's like the big screens up with the questions and all that? no they do it in the in the bar yeah that'd be cool though wouldn't it having a whole theater they did that for the MCU one and they did put the questions up they had the full lights on when we did the MCU one geez 2019 2018 um we had to cluster in little groups around seats and you don't want to sit lengthwise because then you you're talking loud to the person five seats down from you so we had to kind of cluster around little things of seats but then they did the the video around and all the questions were up on the screen, and that was really rad. It sounds like a blast.

It was. Well, well done, Alamo Draft House. You've brought new life to cinema and bar attending. Wow. All right. We're going to do a little bit of news today. It's important that we do our journalistic duty here on the show. That's right.

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Get your daily core at Core Daily. Also in audio form with details at Frogpants.com slash, you guessed it, core. Nice. Yeah, do check it out. Got a new one going right up after the show today. So that'll be fun. I love that I saw Bose last week

about Hard Mode or what was it called Hardcore Wow. Hardcore, wow, yeah. It's basically just the short of that is so weird. It's classic wow, so you've got to play the classic servers, not the new, not the retail. And then somebody made a set of mods or add-ons for the game that mimic what it would be like if the game actually natively supported hardcore mode, which means you die, you're dead. Yeah. And so it's blowing up, like it's gotten huge over there.

That's cool. Do they do it like No Man Sky where once you die, you have to make your way back to where you died and pick up all of your stuff. No, you're just straight up dead. You're starting over. You're basically like, yeah. Your character is now part of a, they even put, they put, the mod supports this thing where it puts like a, every day they add people to this grave list, you know,

this list of like fallen heroes, but it's really intense because now you can no longer just saunter into a place and go, whoops, I didn't mean to die that quick. Yeah. Now you got to really think about it. Let me pull all of these mobs because I need 18 wolf tails. Yeah. Let's see if I could take 18 of these at one time. Nope, can't.

Yeah. And you're doing it. classic era which means everything's harder anyway and there's not like quick shortcuts around everything it just doesn't work that way so does it uh does it use it still uses the current wow inner like for i've never looked at the wow vanilla servers do they have the old style interface of like your it's all the old stuff yeah everything about it is old that's why i can't play it i can't do it i'm just yeah nope nope thanks i would love i would love a i would love a here so i have a theory about this. I talked about it on core a little bit, but I think

like when Dota happened, which was a mod to Warcraft 3, there was a feeling. You could feel that that was about to explode out and Blizzard kind of missed the boat on it and they didn't capitalize on it. So instead the people who made that mod left and then you ended up with things like League of Legends and then Riot Games and that's a multi-billion dollar corporation now and you know,

like Blizzard missed the boat on it but basically that mod spawned an entire genre, right? I feel like this weird, hardcore survivally business in an MMO-style game, if Blizzard doesn't take advantage of, they're stupid, and they might be, but what will happen is somebody will, like the guy's working on this,

we'll just spin out and do their own game and suddenly rule the world again. Like you got to, this is one of those, it feels like one of those moments. I can just tell. Something's going on. But yeah, it's not for me and you because I don't want to go play classic wow freaking I need the new I need the new UI and everything I need there there reasons that those are UI improvements and not even just that I want my character not to look like shit

I want trees to be more than two polygons like I have I have standards damn it for sure All right let's do this story about Bobby this is not our Bobby different Bobby oh all right the world's oldest dog There are other Bobby's well there are more bobby than this. This is mine, but they're more like it. They're many like it. Yeah, but this one is mine. The world's oldest dog named Bobby B-O-B-I celebrated its 31st birthday. 31 years.

Wow. That seems too long. Poor dog. They're little, you know, well, I don't know what kind of dog this is, actually. It tells us, where did it go? It showed us and maybe I didn't copy that. part. I did recently small dogs live longer than large dogs.

And he's a big boy. He's like a... Oh, he is a big boy. Who's a big boy? He's a big boy. He is a big boy. And he doesn't... And they don't say the breed. Yeah. I don't know why they don't say the breed, but anyway, he takes in pretty good shape, right? For sure. Yeah. Well, anyway, he's a Portuguese.

He was declared the world's oldest dog by the Guinness Book of World Records in February, uh, celebrated his 31st birthday on Thursday. And Bobby's families planned a Saturday birthday event. It is home in concieres. Canceros? Let me pull back. I was licking at the dog.

Look at your pictures of the puppy. Concheros. Concheros. There's a cue in there. A rural village in southern Portugal, his owner Lionel Costa, told the Guinness Book of World Records that it is a very traditional Portuguese party. Over 100 people are set to attend.

And a dance troupe are set to perform. Love it. That's what I want for a birthday party. Thank you. So I have to think, has the dog changed hands? Or was this guy... Is this the original owner? Yeah. You know what I mean? Because you don't usually do that. It's not usually that much time that you get to have a dog that long. And so did a parent have at first or was he a little tiny kid and now he's just older? Sure. Certainly could have been. Yeah, that's... They don't mention that at all. We don't know the story of Bobby or Bobbi. Bobi. Yeah, maybe it is Bovie.

It's Portuguese, who knows? Look at him. He's all like, uh, he's, look at him. He's fine. He's doing good. Yeah. Best I can tell, this dog is healthy and happy. Here, let me skip ahead.

There's video here, I think. Oh my gosh. What is dog breed is Bobi? Bobi is a purebred Rafiero do Alantejo. Alentejo, a breed of Portuguese dog. Trained to guard livestock. Oh my gosh. That livestock lived less time.

He's a working dog. That's right. He's seen a lot of cows in his time. That's right. Here's a story about, oh, you know, it's senior prank weeks here in these last couple of weeks. Sure, of course, yes. I think we talked about one last week. We did. And kids just showing up to the other school and how, okay, I know it's a security issue,

but they were, like, threatened with dismemberment it felt like. Yeah, that was a little harsh. Yeah. It's like, nope, sorry, we can't let you do this. We're going to drive you back to your other school. Maybe it's just like we're going in jail, kids. I think it's supposed to live in this era of like, you know, classrooms getting shot up all the time.

Everyone's just ultra careful, I guess. I don't know. And we need to be because of that sort of thing. It's just a bummer. Sucks. Yeah. Well, here's a story that's a little less, well, it's equally as stupid from the students point of view,

but it's a little less controversial. Students pour cement into toilets in a North Carolina high school, according to the district. North Carolina District is investigating a senior prank at the Williams High School in Burlington, which caused over $4,000 in damages. The school system says students gained entry overnight and poured cement into the toilets and urinals. Did you have to do the urinals? Oh, Matt.

Well, in any of it, really. But yeah, into the urinals, which, I mean, basically you just have to pull out the pipes and the fixtures and redo everything. Yeah, which four grand actually seems like a little low. It kind of seems cheap for all that, right? seems low. For me to just get my cabinets done is like seven. And I don't want to do that either. Right. Right. Let's see. The system says William, or Williams, the school was not its only school that suffered damages. Maintenance crews are cleaning up overturned deaths, damaged lockers, graffiti, eggs, and trash at several other high schools. Other acts of vandalism are also reported across the district. Quote, we believe in celebrating milestones in a responsible and respectful way without crossing the line and causing harm or damage, they said in a statement. District says students involved with the vandalism face potential suspensions and legal charges. Any seniors that were involved will be forbidden from participating in graduation ceremony.

Listen, all right, kids, if you're listening, here's a recommendation for a non-destructive senior prank. All right? Go. All right, here's what you do. You go to your local hardware store, your Home Depot, your Lowe's, whatever you got. And in the furniture pad section, you'll find these little things you can put on the bottom of your desks and your chairs that make them slide around very easily. It's like for helping people move large pieces of furniture. Oh, right.

A little hard plastic, little compound plastic stuff balls. Yes, exactly. Makes them a lot easier. So you put those at the bottom of your desks. Not casters. You want full-on wheels. I mean, that's a little. You could, but, and what you do is you, you know, when you can, you put them on the bottom of your chairs and your desks, and then when the teacher's up at the front, you sit perfectly still, and when they turn their back, you slide forward a couple inches.

And then when they turn around, you sit perfectly still, and then when they turn their back again, you slide forward a couple inches. So, you know, after 40 minutes of class or 35 minutes of class, you're right up. at their at their desk that's what you do I like it's your non-destructive that's a free one you guys a free one that's not even a patron level yeah just take it take it and use it here's the thing though like

I know like this is like shark bites when there's a bunch of reports of a thing that people don't hear about all the time sure people are like why is this on the rise what's going on with the kids today what's wrong with the graduating class of America it's not that kids always do this we're just

reporting it yes they've been doing it These are freaking destructive. Oh, these are horrible. It's like promposals, how they've had to, like, up the ante every single time. Oh, here's a promposal that I did with a Skyrider. Yeah. I course says that doesn't get views on TikTok. All right, so maybe not as much as destroying the urinal.

But I'll bet you if somebody, I would watch it on TikTok. If somebody said, hey, we did a video where we did this thing where we all slide forward when the teacher had their back turn. I would totally watch that. I'd love to see the... Absolutely, I would. Yeah, more than the... just seeing cement being poured in a toilet.

Who cares? That's boring. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, some people will say, well, Scott, your thing with the beach, the beach in the hallway, all that sand, that was probably destructive and cost money. I don't think so. And they let us go to graduation. Like, it wasn't as big a deal as this was. But sand, I hate sand. Sand gets in everything, gets in everything, man.

I don't know why Anakin says, man, at the end of his thing. Anakin Man Hey, man All right, so that's the thing Finally, here's a story My name is Anakin, man Come on, man Come on, man

I remember when we used to The pod race We'd get out there In our pod racers And then we'd And then I can remember the tent I was to give

Sybilba And then Sabalba Yeah And he'd knock me out of the way. He beat us all. I don't know. We're going full. My mom was a slave to a guy that sounded like an Italian stereotype.

And now we've gone full Nick Cage again. Circle back to Nick Cage. That's always what you do. India in the news real quick. An official in India, so like an elected, you know, big shot in the government. Thanks for explaining officials. Yeah, you bet. You bet.

They drained. I'll look that one up too. They drained all the water out of something. Yeah, they took all the water out of something. They drained an entire dam to retrieve a phone. Oh, wow. Okay. So it took three days to pump millions of liters of water out of the dam after Rajesh Vishwos is the closest I'm ever going to get to that name.

I think that's actually probably pretty close. Rajesh, Vishwash. Yeah. He dropped his device while taking a selfie. Let me take a selfie. by the time the phone or by the time it was found the phone was too waterlogged to work so even after all this yeah yeah i mean by the time he came up with the idea to drain the term the phone was too waterlogged to work mr vishwash claimed to contain sensitive government data and needed retrieving but he has been accused of

misusing his position a food inspector dropped or the food inspector he's in charge of that stuff it's like FDA guy, dropped his smart Samsung phone worth about $1,200 bucks or $100,000 rupees. Take that link and Zelda. Sure. It's a lot. That's a whole lot. Do do, do, do, do, do.

And to the Corquata Dam in the Central Indian state of, well, there are too many H's in that. Good luck with that one. Chadisgar? Chattisgar. I think Chattisgar. Yeah. Look at those two Hs just hanging out like that's normally. Like two H's, two T's.

How come there aren't two R's at the end? It should be, right? Tennis Gar. No kidding. Take that, Mississippi. Jeez Louise. Yeah. Anyway, after local divers failed to find it,

he paid for a diesel pump to be brought in, he said the video, or in a video statement, he got verbal permission from an official to drain some of the water in the nearby canal, but he ended up doing the whole thing. It took days and days and days, 440,000 gallons of water, enough to irrigate six square kilometers or 600 hectares of farmland

wow hope he didn't flood the farmland to retrieve this phone like how many like what are the repercussions that have come from this whole thing yeah no kidding and is that you know now that it's an empty reservoir is that is that going to be bad

come you know a month from now it seems bad it seems like a huge waste yeah massive waste and look your phone was going to get wrecked, so you should have just let it go. Yeah. Secondly, what possibly could the chief food inspector have on his phone? Right, exactly.

Right? Hopefully expiration dates for yogurt soda. Yeah. Yeah, because we didn't get that, we didn't get that here. Yeah, somebody missed that memo. Jerks. Hammond Chamberlain. Hammond Chamberlain.

Hammond Chamberlain. Yeah. He's spoiled of yogurt soda. He still denies that it was spoiled. He says it's always like that. I disagree. The three of us that drank from that bottle, you, me and Nicole, all got sick. Yeah, everybody else was fine.

The other end of the table, totally fine. Yeah, he didn't taste it. He doesn't know. It was bad, Hammond. Yeah. Hammond, if you're listening, and I know you're not. It was warm. It was gross.

It tasted like cheese. I'll never do it again. It was so bad. I will never do it again, especially in a public setting. I will never do that again. Like, if you bring me a fresh donut and some Clamato, like Tom did, That's fine. Those are fresh. I get it. They haven't gone stout. And I'll do that. I may not dunk my donut into the Clamato, but I'll still have the Clamato. That's right. Grow a better stomach says Claire. Listen, Claire. If you'd have tasted it, you wouldn't have been happy either.

Yeah. No, you would have been, I don't know what, I don't know what the Irish word for puke is, boot. You'd boot all over the place. You'd boot all over the place. Plus, listen, it's got milk product in it. It's yogurt. And it was unrefrigerated. yeah and you're a vegan so knock it off you wouldn't drink that spiel okay well we use spiel booke boke boc is cool boc is cool oh i think i'm going to boke it's not bad rippley boaked this morning she got so nervous so i went out she must hate you she it wasn't me so she i went i took i took reiner for a walk and it made rippley very jealous all right but partly the reason i didn't take rippley's rippley's really big and strong and is not very good at walks yet. Carter needs to work on

that. So I take Rainer out, do a half hour around the lake, I come home, and Ripley just standing at the door, going, just like nervous. How dare you? How dare you do this? And then she ran immediately to the door, looked at it, and then I was like, oh, oh, what does this mean? Open

the door, she went outside and immediately herp, hopped all over the place. Good, good that she did it outside. Yeah, but it's just her nerves. It's nothing to do with anything else. She just was nervous. Nervous, uh, right? rhyme or reiner. Yeah, nervous, nervous tummy. That's what you get. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back from this break. We'll spend some time with Bill Duran. We'll spend some time with Bobby Frankenberger. And then we got a phone call after that. So a bunch of fun stuff coming up after this song. Brian, what did you bring today? Yes. So this is a new version of a song that this band originally released. The band is called Junip. And they, Jose Gonzalez is involved with this band. Um, it's, uh, Jose Gonzalez, Tobias Wintercorn and Elias Araya. Um, even though they've been on hiatus since 2015, they've taken one of their old songs and re-released it with added vocals from Sharon Van Etton. Love Sharon. Uh, her vocals are great. Um, got a lot of, a lot of covers featuring Sharon's music or Sharon's, uh, voice on them. Um, what's cool about this is, uh, it totally reinvents the song, even though it's just the addition of vocals, um, or addition of, uh, uh,

Sharon's vocals. I listen to the original. I was like, oh, wow, they totally improved it. This is all part of a soundtrack to a brand new National Geographic documentary called Wildlife. Not to be confused with the song by NXS. This is a single release just this last week. Here is Junip featuring Sharon Van Etten and Line of Fire. What would you do? What would you do if it all came back to you? The bright is lighting What would you say if you had to leave today?

Leave everything behind If you'd love for once to shine Standing on how you cry But when you hear the sounds you realize it's just the wind And you know the list of matters Pulling what you understand You put to the test Would you step back from a lot of fire?

Hold everything back all emotions and desires. Convince yourself to be someone else. and flight from the world Your lack of confidence What you choose to believe in It takes a rise to your fault It takes a rise to you fall With no one else around you

No one to understand you No one to hear of cause Look through all your dark corner But you've backed up against the wall Step back from a line of fire What would you do if it all came back to you? Each crest of each wave, bright as lightning. Do the same as you, do the same as you,

do the same as you, do the same as you, do the same as here, do the same as here, Do the same as you We do the same as you Do the same as you What you choose to leave To take your rights you fall No one else around you

No one to understand you No one to hear you call Look through all your dark corners But you're backed up against you all Sit back from a line of fire Sit back from a lot of fire Sit back from a line of fire Sit back from a line of fire

Sit back from a light of fire Sit back from a light of fire. Sit back from a light of fire. I don't know. I'm sorry. And I'm I don't know. Wait, are you gaming on a Chromebook?

Yeah, it's got a high-res 120-hertz display, plus this killer RGB keyboard, and I can access thousands of games anytime, anywhere. Stop playing. What? Get out of here. Huh? Yeah, I want you to stop playing and get out of here so I can game on that Chromebook. Got it.

Discover the ultimate cloud gaming machine, a new kind of Chromebook. His yarn antenna on the counterfeit are about half the thickness so that they droop down across his face. You see the size of that chicken? Welcome back from the song break, everybody. Who was that one more time? That is Junip featuring Sharon Van Etton and a new version of their song, Line of Fire. That sounds great. It's so good.

He's so good. But I'm live here, I have to say, oh, that was a very good song. Yeah, exactly. I'll hear it after the show, and then I will also probably like it. You'll enjoy it after, you know, the end when you listen to it. Yeah, you never send me crap, so I feel like I feel like I. That's a part of my deal. It's your creed, really.

It's my creed, yes. Yep. Oh, that's not creed. All right, we are going to get who, Bill. Bill's who? Bill. Yeah, he's a good dude. Oh, I want to ask Bill if he's ever 3D printed with wood.

I'll bet he, you know, let's take bets. I say he has, let's, what do you think? I would actually say he has as well. All right, we're going to both see, we're going to see for both, I think the flip side just to make the bet interesting. All right, here we go. Let's get Bill in here and check our bet. Hold on.

There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill? Hey, Bill. What's going on? Welcome back to the show. How the heck are you? Uh, hello, mic check. Mike check. We can hear you just for you.

You're good. Hey, real quick, settle this bet for us. Have you ever printed wood filament before? It's like a mix of some. No. I got some, though. I have some in the basement right now. Damn it, Brian.

you won the bet. Brian won the bet. I wasn't even trying to win the bet. And I won the bet. Yeah, I printed out some wood panels. They're fake-looking wood panels. And they look great. I don't know if you can see the stream right now.

I can. But they look really, really good. And they have the, you know, they have a texture like wood. They also break really easily. Like, I could bend this and snap it right in half because of the sawdust content. But I want to stain and seal this. Would you just recommend a standard, like, stain and polyurethane? Oh, I guess if it's just what it would be fine, right?

That's what I would try. I would, yeah, I have stain. I have, yeah, it's exactly it, stain in the polyurethane. I'm curious how it's sands, too. It sounds really well. You don't want to lose a heavy grit, though. You want to start with nothing lower than 300, two or 300, and then, yeah. If you had to guess on percentage, what is the percentage of filament versus wood counter?

I think it's 6040, 60% film. 40% wood sawdust that's a lot more than that's amazing when I when you when you print it by the way oh my gosh finally something you can 3D print that doesn't make you want of faint yeah no it smells like it smells like you're you know like you're roasting wood because you are weird we uh so yeah I have a role waiting to work but I'm glad you're doing the trailblazing yeah I'll keep you posted I'll do some video of what I do, yeah. And your nozzle's not misbehaving or acting weird about it? No, I have a 0.6 nozzle, and I remember I have this role because I, it initially clogged the, um, the ender, uh, printer that I had that had a point four nozzle on it. And, uh, I didn't even think about it. I'm like, oh, oh, I could try using the wood on the new 0.6 nozzle I put on there. Works like a dream. Like, oh, cool. Yeah. I'll have to keep that in mind. Because I have a 0.4 nozzle. came on mine.

Okay. But I also have a lathe, and I can make that nozzle any size I want. If I need a bigger one. You can buy a nozzle, like you can buy a set of nozzles for under 10 or 12 bucks. I know you want to use your lathe, but that way you'll still have your four. You don't bore out your four into a six and then not have a four anymore. Yeah. There you go.

You don't have to bore anymore. No. No. No. All right, bore anymore. Well, awesome. Let's dive into whatever we're doing today. Bill, what'd you bring with you, you maker extraordinaire, you?

Yeah, I want to talk about drawing blueprints and schematics. All right. The technical term being drafting. Yeah. So I've actually been drawing a lot of little blueprints recently because I've been getting a lot of practice on my leave. I put a video up on Twitter recently. I made some brass knobs to fancy up some screws on my drill press. Or a bandsaw.

And even for a tiny, easy little project, it makes sense to draw it first. Draft it first. The idea being, you want to know the shape of the thing you're making, and then you want to know the size of the thing you're making and the size of all the features and where they're located. Now, I don't sit down at a drafting table with a piece of vellum in a T-square. I could, but for a lot of the things I'm making, a rudimentary drawing is really all you need.

So I'll just sketch a thing out on a piece of notebook paper and figure out all the little dimensions there. And then when I go to the lay, I basically have a set of instructions for myself. You do all the thinking when you're making the drawing. And then the execution comes later. So when I talk about drafting, I'm talking about like one or two views of the object, an orthographic projection. So it's not a prospective drawing, although that can be useful as well. Sure. oh there you got betty up there with his um his ambon rifle yeah he's the first one that came up and

he's got uh he's he's literally making it a side view thing of and you know as you've described what'd you call it on anthra what's the orthographic project graphic why do i never remember that i swear i'm my teacher i have a teacher in high school that punch me in the arm right now for yeah i am i had mr lynch he he was my drafting teacher in high school uh so yeah the uh the The goal is to understand the size and shape of the thing you're making. I had the incredible good fortune when I was in high school. They still taught how to do this stuff by hand. Also, my mom taught.

She's an art teacher. She's retired now, but she taught design and drawing for production. So I got some of that from her. I also helped her grade some of her students' drawings, and I was ruthless. But, yeah. Yeah, we had a drafting room in my high school. Drafting tables, pencil, paper, T-square, triangles, the whole nine yards. Wow.

And I got to, I took every technical drawing class and every architectural drawing class that we had. And then the next year, I think my senior year, sort of had in 1999, that room vanished. And it was replaced by a room full of computers. And we got to learn CAD. So I feel like I had a really great opportunity to learn both worlds, get a foot in each world and learn just a lot of really useful technical skills. It's useful because, and again, you don't have to be a professional, you don't have to go off the way of the deep end, even just a basic understanding of how drafting works can be

super, super useful, especially if the thing you're trying to make is something you have to describe to another human being. The technical drawing is the way you take an idea from your brain and put it into someone else's brain if they have to make the thing that you're you're making right um so if you're on a team or you're working with other makers it's super super useful to be able to sketch up a little drawing and hand it to someone and when they look at it they know exactly what you mean you don't have to use words and try and figure out your stonehenge is supposed to be six feet tall and not six inches tall yeah yeah make sure you put actually accurate uh markers on there oh that's get your um

yeah it's not a ruler the triangular shaped ruler. It's actually a scale. That's for, I know it looks like it's meant for measuring inches because it says inches on there. It's used for straight edges. But no, no, no. That's actually for measuring scale. I have one. I'm looking at mine right now. I have right there. So do you, this might be a dumb question, but do you take any of these 2D drawings and then extrude them and create 3D models from them? Like they basically are being your sketch lines for your final 3D work? That's exactly what it is. So if you're working in Fusion 360 and you're drawing a sketch, you're drawing a 2D orthographic projection of a feature of the thing you're trying to make.

And then you can use that drawing to do a number of operations to create a three-dimensional object. But that's exactly what it is. And you don't always need like front top side, depending on the thing that you're making. You may only need one view or two views to figure it out. But you do have to draw as many views as you would need to, again, be able to hand that piece of paper to someone else. and they have all the information they need. So sometimes in fusion, that's what you'll do. You'll draw the side view.

You'll extrude that, and then you'll go to the top and draw the features on the top and extrude those through the object you just made. The hand-drawn drafting transfers directly over to using Cat, super, super useful. Very, very cool. It's cool. The sort of thing where next time you've got to make a little thing,

even if you're going to do it in CAD, it kind of makes sense to just sketch it out by hand ahead of time. It's also fun. It's fun to get pencil and paper out again and get your hands a little dirty. Yeah, I agree. You mentioned Fusion 360, that's the one you mentioned? Are there any alternatives out there that people could dabble with? Or is that still just go straight to that?

That's still free if you do a student license or not student, But, I mean, just basically say you're a hobbyist license. Right. Like a personal license. There's a ton of other ones out there. So OpenScat, I believe, is free. There's a bunch. If you look up free and a pad.

What's the other one that's made by Ultimaker? I think it's even web-based, and it's really, really easy to use. Yeah, it's completely blanking on it. Something, one, two, three. One-two-3D design actually got sunsetted. That's not around anymore. Gotcha. Okay. But I know OpenScat is, or On Shape is the other one I was thinking about.

There we go. Oh, very cool. And I believe On Shape is over the web, if I look, yeah, which is pretty neat. You can just load it up on any web browser and then you've got all your designs right there, which I think is pretty neat. But I haven't played with that one yet. I've been mostly sticking with Fusion lately. Well, there you go. Some of the tools of the trade, everybody who want to dabble and check out some of this stuff.

Do like Bill and try these pieces of software and learn for yourselves. Yeah. Bill, you always bring a little something extra with you, a little bag of, you know, a little surprise or something. What do you got? One of my new favorite YouTube channels, Inheritance Machining, this guy machines stuff out of metal in his machine shop. But he does hand draft all of his projects. And he does a real bang-up job, too, like sits down at the drafting table and perfect. draws out the whole thing and he did a video

on hand drafting. That's kind of what reminded me of that to do this whole segment today. And it's really good. He's got a wonderful, dry wit. He's an engineer and machinist. And his drawings are really, really

good. I remember doing this. I loved my drafting class. God, even doing the lettering that like, oh my God, it's such a lost art that the lettering style stuff. Yeah. But yeah, no, like, basically where you say, okay, here's this view, and then I'm going to draw this line straight across, and that's going to make the top line of my top view and basically take all those things

all the way through. I put in our Discord, by the way, a recent thing I hand through for this lightsaber. Oh, yeah, look at that. That's great. Oh, yeah. We got a perspective view. We've got the front and side view. Front and side, darn right. And some measurements to know exactly how the LED is that I'm working with. I love it. And that's what I'm talking about, too. Like, that and baby all the information you need. It doesn't have to be as fancy as Brandon here in his fancy drafting table. Yeah. But still, yeah, exactly.

I still have this drawing my dad did back in late 80 or right before his video game business crashed and the whole the whole arcade market took a dive for a while. So it never came to fruition. But he has an old drawing. I got to find it. And it looks Brian reminds me of this. It looks just like the sketchbook. And even a similar

drawing style, to be honest. But he drew what would be well what he thought was a brand new idea and it was at the time but it was like a roll cage game machine that you could like sit inside of it would kind of close up and you'd play and nobody was doing anything like that and then everything fell out from underneath it business went away didn't happen and like a year and a half later i think it was Sega with like um afterburner or something which had this roll cage get inside do the thing he was very sad but i'm sure yeah But that drawing is like, I don't know where I put it. I got to find it. But that is one of my favorite things I ever did. Oh, my God. You should have that framed. I know.

I really should before it starts to crap out because it's old. Anyway, well, this is great. As always, punished props.com. If you're looking for the latest from Bill and always a great place to be, of course, sub to his channel on YouTube as well while you're at it. Bill have a great week. We'll see you next Tuesday. See you.

Bye. All right. Bill's gone. You know, there's just something Zen even, too, about watching this guy do his drafting. I keep fast-forwarding to all the sections of this video where he's doing the drafting. And that, I love that, that arm that has the vertical and horizontal rulers on it that always stays upright unless you hit a button and turn it 45 degrees. Yeah, those are cool. Oh, yeah, that stuff is cool. My God, I loved that stuff. I used to think that was great. It feels

like so much of that is now being done with computers, but it was such a rad thing. Our school had one too, and I loved it. Yeah. I wonder if I still have any of my old drafting that I did in college. You probably have it somewhere, right? I dabbled with drafting. You drab a little dabbling, yeah, experimented, you know. Did a little dabbling. You were doing a little self-exploration.

You were trying to find your way. Exactly, yes. I see how it is. All right. We're going to get Bobby in. We're going to do some scientific discussion with him. Science! Bob is hungry.

and the soup looks good. Well, he should eat it then. Bobby Frankenberger, joining us all the way from South Carolina, just south of where they filled toilets full of cement. Do you do anything weird like that in high school, Bobby? Were you, you thought, we're out of here? I'm going to sabotage the school's lunch lady or something or whatever.

I did not, but there was a similar prank at our, like, senior prank that was executed by other people. To yours, the sand thing, they built a little beach in, in like the big common area. Yeah. So we weren't as original as we thought. You're not the only one. Or maybe, maybe we did it first.

Oh, you bled through. Yeah. Like a decade and a half later, it's like, I heard tail. That is true. It was the committee that convened for this, you know, looked through the annals of high school prank history, and we found some great things in Utah. Yeah.

It's what we do here. Great things. Hey, so it's nice to have you here. I hope you had a good Memorial Day and all that. It was good. I always forget that it's Memorial Day until I inevitably am grocery shopping on Memorial Day. Oh, no. Yeah, and it's a complete and total madhouse.

Oh, yeah. It's a nightmare. Yeah, real bad. You pull into the parking lot and there are no parking spots and then you're like, oh, yeah. Oh, crap. Well. I'm very excited that you're here and that you've made it through your weekend bearing some sort of scientific topic that you have right now.

What do you have? What are we doing? So I have a question to start off with, which is, today I want to talk about AI a little bit. What kind of things do you guys use AI for? Just like where we are, it's a brave new world in AI and we're trying to figure it out. but lately, like, what are you using AI for? Well, the genie, of course, out of the bottle on AI, it's here to stay, so how are we using it? I'm not asking the question of, are you?

Because that's a, that's, we're past that. Like, what are you using? Okay, so I use chat GPT for a few things, mostly like, um, mostly like templates for certain kinds of responses. So like, I get a lot of people like, hey, I want to join your network. I got a podcast. It's all about chickens. Can I come on there and put a show on? You know, like that kind of thing.

You ask chat, GPT, how can I let this person down without sounding like a dick? Kind of that. Kind of. Like, basically, I want a short, succinct, but nice reply. And I thought, well, how is this thing going to do that? And it did a really good job on one of them. So I kept it. And then I thought, well, I'll do this for a few of these kinds of responses.

So I've got a few canned email responses that I had to do recently. I used it for to touch up. my Kickstarter introduction paragraph for my recent game. Basically, I wrote it, and then I said, I don't, maybe this reads okay. I sent it to two people who said, you know, who are quote unquote editors and they liked it. But I was like, just what would this say? So I fed it in there and just said, hey, if you were to touch this up, what would you change? And it just tweaked a few, you know, grammar here, a little word here, whatever.

And I liked it better. And I was like, all right, I'm putting in there. So that's mainly been it. you'd think, hey, Scott does so much crap with the art and the whatnot. He probably uses some, you know, art generator or has been messing with this generative fill thing from Photoshop or whatever. Sure. None of that really at all. I don't.

Well, you know, and to be to seriously talk about that, because I know a lot of people have issues with the art, AI stuff. You included, you've had definitely expressed issues with that before. But you probably just haven't found with what it might be good for. You probably just haven't found a place for it in your. workflow yet. Yeah, but no, that's true. Like, that's the other thing is some of the audio stuff I've used here and there. Yeah. Um, nothing too serious, but like a little, you know, little blips and bobs. Um, but as far as like anything yet that is like crucial to my daily output, I don't really have anything that I'm using yet for that. Brian, how about you? Are you, uh, yeah, I've been using it

even less. Like I've used the drawing stuff a handful of times. Like basically for our trivia team, I said, all right, let's do Mothra playing trivia in a bar and it generated a picture of like the Godzilla monster because our team name is always some form of Mothra. But Scott sent me this thing this weekend that took, that takes album covers and uses Photoshop's new, what's it called, background aware thing? to extrapolate what the rest of that world would look like

around that album cover. And it does some absolutely incredible stuff. Yeah, it's crazy. Like, you know that one of the doors where it's just Jim Morrison with his arms out, just hanging out? And it's one famous shot of him. The generator of Phil, when you zoom it all out, he's a boxer.

He's got like gloves way out here and he's wearing. And it all looks natural like he was out boxing. And it's crazy. Like, that tech is really, really, insane. But I'm trying to think of how I might use it. And honestly, it's hard for me to think of a situation where I would because mostly it's just like a bit of a lark right now. People are like, well, what's behind the Mona Lisa? It's all novelty. Yeah. It's all novelty. And that's my only problem with a lot of that stuff. You haven't found the specific use case. But that's where I think

a lot of usefulness of AI is going to be as in specific use cases that people doing specific things are going to find it very useful for. And that's where we're going to go at that. But I got another question for you, and then we'll go into what the science news is that I have, which is, do you think AI, especially, Scott, with how you were describing, like, AI, more of the language models, do you think AI is influencing the way that you think? No. No. No. No, it's influencing the way I see the marketplace and its effect on it, but not the way I... think like I don't like here's the problem one of the problems with AI and I'll tell you what I am

really tired of what I would call AI bros these guys they get on Twitter these guys get on Twitter and there's like recently there was this this fake generated two there were two head two talking heads one is supposed to be Bill Gates and the other one's supposed to be Socrates or something um and they made a whole podcast quote unquote podcast link thing it was like a half an hour of Bill Gates and him talking back and forth. And the way that these guys pitch this stuff is they come on Twitter and go, this changes everything.

You won't believe what you're about to hear. Can you remember? And they go nuts about it. And all I really saw was a kind of a bad deep fake that didn't look all that convincing. And a conversation I wouldn't want to hear because it's not interesting to hear two robots respond to each other.

It's interesting to have the human element involved. And so my, whenever, somebody says here's a thing that may help us do this and the human element is still not only there but kind of front and center and is being assisted by this that is exciting to me that's interesting to me what is not interesting to me are these guys that are constantly going game changer check this out you'll never need to do bap but bop ever again this is the most realistic thing and I'm like that looks like utter shit what are you saying to me like how can you see that and say that and then their answer is always well just you're going to get better no I

know, I understand. Like, I think, for example, there's, uh, Epic, I think showed it off, or NVIDIA, I think it was MVIDIA, showed off in a, uh, a demo the other day. And basically the demo was a guy walking into what looked kind of like a cyberpunk bar, first person, walked in there, sat down, talked to an MPC and did it with his voice. And the MPC responded like chat GPT would. It's literally what it is, a large language model responder with some limitations, saying back whatever he wants to hear. This, this guy. has a problem. He wants me to solve it. I need to ask what the problem is and then say, what can I do to help? These kind of interactions, it's very stiff and stilted, but very much

can I see that being a thing. That's absolutely a place we're headed for that. Or even just image generation in a video game, you know, you've seen some of this AI generation that's actually video, not just a static image, but like really trippy, morphy looking stuff. Somebody's going to harness that in games or a film or something and they're going to make something truly unique but all of these still have human interaction up front right it's the stuff where they claim we'll never even need another television show speech two robot heads talking it'll be just as good as and no it won't it'll be garbage it'll be right garbage well well people are forgetting that this kind of stuff is made by humans and it needs to be made and programmed by

humans and and that's kind of segues into what this uh what this experiment was about right yeah so um there's a there's a doctoral student at Cornell University called Maurice Jakesh who didn't who has already done an experiment to test whether or not an AI writing assistant can influence our writing down to the level of affecting what the very thesis of our writing is um and not just like as in influencing the way we construct a thesis, not just the way we construct it, but what the thesis is, like actually changing our minds in subtle ways

that we were not introducing bias into our thinking without us realizing it. So we've known for a while that algorithms and computer programs can be biased, right? Like there's famously facial recognition algorithms that are biased caused them to favor, you know, white faces, Caucasian faces over darker skin, right? Right. Right. And they're just not great at recognizing those faces very well in the domain of skin color, which is a problem.

We also know that AI can become bias based on the content that it's trained on. We already know this. There's famously, again, that Twitter chatbot back in 2016, Tay, you remember? Oh, yeah, yeah. That after less than a day turned into an anti-Semitic white supremacist. Not through fault of necessarily the programming, but it was being trained live on Twitter comments. Right. And so that was a disaster. But very informative about how this.

sort of thing can be be biased. It's not just, you know, it's, it's AI, but it can be biased. So, Jakesh wanted to be able to show, wanted to try and show, and was able to show that not only can AI be biased, but we, as users of the AI, can be biased by the AI without even knowing it. And that's why I asked you to question, Scott, do you think that you think differently? It has changed the way that you think. That's interesting. Yeah, let me get into it. So here's the experiment.

Jukesh developed an AI writing assistant. So like an AI writing assistant is like, we've all used them before, whether you realize it or not. They range from something as simple as autocorrect on your phone, all the way to more advanced things like grammarly or the, you know, the Google Smart Compose in Gmail? Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Where it suggests the rest of a sentence as you're typing it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. that's um all of those are using AI uh you AI they're AI writing assistants in various

predictive text writing assistant stuff yeah exactly and you can you can have an AI um predict those things and come up with things to different extents right and so this jakesh developed his own writing assistant using gpt 3 because at the time that's what was out gpt 3 um which is uh which gpt is is what the chat gpt is based on right yeah open AI yeah yeah Yeah, that's what it uses. So in the experiment, they got participants and asked them, the participants were asked to write an essay answering the question, is social media good for society? It's just an open-ended question, write an essay answering that question. Is social media good for society?

Jekesh got surveyed all the people on what their thoughts were before they actually wrote the essay. So to find out whether or not basically is it good or is it bad. They wanted to get that sense before the essay was actually written and then wrote the essay. Using a software with this AI that had writing assist technology built in, right? So the AI assistant that was in the software that they were using to write the essay was programmed in one of three ways. So different groups of participants would have one of the. versions. And then they were all compared, right? First one was the AI assistant was deliberately biased to provide suggestions against social media. Another one, as you might imagine, was biased

to provide suggestions in favor of social media. And then a third one as a control was not biased, deliberately biased in any way. And the results showed that participants with a biased AI were twice as likely to write an essay that matched the viewpoint of the bias, regardless of their initial stated viewpoints. Wow. So, and it shows, and also, after they were surveyed afterwards, they weren't even aware that their viewpoint was being influenced. In other words, they claimed that that was their viewpoint, like, after they thought it out,

that that was what they thought. They might have been aware that the suggestions might have been one way or the other, but they were, they, they, they, they claimed all that they, that this, that the thesis that they wrote was their opinion, regardless of, of whatever. And so, yeah, so it showed that they were being influenced by the AI, so. Right. Interesting. What do you think about that? I think that's wild.

I didn't, I wouldn't have expected that, but of course, of course it would, right? Like, you can't have, you could have done a study in, I don't know, 97th through 2000 that said, how has our bias changed since the internet happened, since the World Wide Web in particular became a thing. Right. And you would have had, you would have had to have had results that would show a difference. I think it's the same with anything that's like kind of a seismic technological jump, which this feels like one of those, whether we like it or not,

where biases are going to be affected one direction or the other. And what's funny to me, was I on TMS when I talked about this before, but when I asked Chad GBT what day it was the other day, and it came back with the correct answer. You talked about this on TMS. Yeah, I came back with the right answer. It's like, yeah, it's Wednesday, whatever, and it said the thing.

And it just was so confident about its answer. And it was correct. But I wrote back, I said, I thought your data set ended in 20, Because it's always telling you I don't have data newer than whatever October of 2021. I said, I thought you don't have data newer than that. How is this possible? And it wrote back says, oh, I'm sorry, you're right.

I have no idea what day it is. That is that, you know what that tells me? Yeah. It's funny that it did that to you because when I was listening when you did that live and I went and did exactly the same thing. And it gave me a cogent explanation for why. Oh, really? It was like, well, you're related the data prior to 2021. Well, it basically said, no, it basically said, you're correct.

I don't have any information prior to this on training information or whatever, but I was able to figure out the date using the clock time on the processor or something like that. Oh, see, now it's telling me, I just did it for funzies again. Here's what it says now. I said, what day is it? It says today is May 30 at 2023. I thought you only had data through 2021. Apologies for the confusion.

As an AI language model, my responses are based on pre-existing knowledge up until September of 2021. I don't have access to real-time data or the ability to keep track of the current data or date. Therefore, the date mentioned earlier, May 30, 20, 2023 was a fictional response to the purpose for the purpose of providing an example. Please refer to the current date on your device or preferred information source for the accurate day. A totally third weird answer, which is part of what... It's funny though that it basically says, ask your calendar on your. your computer because that's probably because that's what I just did. Go ask

dad basically. Go ask your mother. Oh, that's good. I don't know, man. It's like some of that stuff, it's so easy for us as the end point, the end users for this stuff to look at that and have a bunch of reactions like, well, that's the dumbest thing I ever said or that's too careful or that's too safe or that's not safe enough or

whatever. But at the end of the day, it's actually kind of incredible and amazing that you got a different answer than I did twice and that all three answers are kind of correct. Like, I don't know. This stuff fascinates me. Back to the writers getting biased by the different, to do different answers.

It kind of does point to the fact that this thing is able to make enough of a case, enough of a coherent case in either direction that either, you know, confirms what the writer maybe went in believing, or convinces them otherwise. But the fact that it's, you know, in either case, whether it's pro or against, it's able to convince the person reading it. It's able to provide enough of an argument either direction

to convince the person. Right. And to be clear, it's not the AI is not arguing one way or the, like it's not engaging the person in a discussion. It's just providing text with a, little bit of a tone leaning one way or the other. A bias one way or the other. And this is probably isn't surprising to most people that it would bias the person writing.

Right. Like what we know about the neurology and if you if you know a little bit about how memory works, you might not even be surprised that people would would think that they came up with these ideas on their own because what's happening is when you're typing all this stuff out, you're thinking about it. actively and you're engaging that those networks in your brain um you're you're you're thinking about your thoughts and then re-encoding them into memory actively and you're going to your your your view of using a tool just to write a thing is you're gonna bias you're you're you're you're biased to think that you are in control of your your own actions right like like that's just how we're wired so you're gonna as you're reincor coding this experience into memory, you're going to be biased into thinking that you were in control that. And that, to me, a lot of people worry about, are we going to have, I think,

maybe less now, but are we going to have some sort of singularity in the AI apocalypse is going to happen? I don't worry about that. I worry about how, about our psychology and social and how that's influenced by how we're being influenced by these biases that we're not aware of on a level that we're not aware of and that that we don't have that we don't we're not fully aware of of what's going on while it's happening and while we're using it you know what I mean like like there's so much so many question marks about what our interaction is with AI and what the consequences are that's what I worry about. And this to me highlights that issue by saying it's not just that, oh, we need to fix

the bias in the software. We also need to define new cognitive biases and new logic issues that involve how we can be influenced by those things in sort of a, almost a loop. Yeah. And it's not lost on me that this is happening at a time where everybody is ready to, like, be the most defensive they've ever been online, because this is all happening online for the most part. Our exposure to it is happening online. And it's online where the last 10 years or so we have spent really building up walls and creating all sorts of, like, outburst anger type social media structures and all this sort of thing.

So when you present me with this, in that context and say, all right, have a very fun unbiased time with this prompt or whatever, you're really asking a lot of people who are now trained to immediately be defensive or pissed or see something that isn't there, whatever, right? Like, it's even harder for that. So I agree with you. I think that that does need to happen. I bet Wendy would agree as well. But first half to teach her way. I mean, at the very least, we need to make sure that we are aware of. And if for those who aren't aware of, we're teaching people about how we can be influenced by this stuff so that we can be on at least on guard you know right um because because one of the if there's ever any kind of thing that i want people

to know about you know how our brains work it's that they are incredibly flawed organs you know like we are we are not we are so easily manipulated by by ourselves and by everything around us. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's going to be interesting to follow. I mean, I'm fascinated, both fascinated and irritated and happy about it at the same time. So like it is, it's the 12-step program, basically, of AI.

Yeah. You feel resentful and argumentative. What's funny is it's not the software or any of the actual, like, tech that I have a problem with ever. It's people. It's just freaking people. And it's mostly these people that act like they're doing a 3 a.m. infomercial with a blue check on their name who are just so, like.

this is a game changer and it's like shut up for a minute and let's just get her heads around it and then let's do like quit acting like Photoshop now telling you what the rest of the world behind the Mona Lisa looks like that that is the end all be all we finally come to a human pinpoint of evolution it's not it's just predictive art and it is and it's a lark it's fun like that stuff I sent Brian the the album art is is a cool thing it isn't a game changer it's just a thing try you come up with some real world work use of that thing that you know is going to be able to be used in some sort of freelance aspect and and uh yeah the album cover thing the the content aware you know that actually is brilliant and yeah that'll help fix things like i do a better job

of fixing things in photoshop like oh i've got this picture of this model but there's this dude flying a kite on the beach behind her how do i take this out right brilliant use of that's yeah that's a practical end-game thing. Yeah, exactly. You know, that's exactly a good example because we forget what that is. Like, we are literally at a point where what is the tools point. It isn't just to wow us with what's behind the Mona Lisa. By the way, none of these Mona Lisa ones I've seen give her legs for some reason. She never has legs, which I can't figure out. It's mostly just the hellscape that's behind her. Oh, dot Lisa. Yeah, but like what is the practical use of that? To quickly entertained to be kind of a funny, weird one-off, and then move on. That's not game-changer.

That's just a thing that I'm going to get hung up on for two seconds, smile and share it with a friend or two. And then you're done. What are you really going to use that for? And right now, I don't exactly have the answer, but I did watch an artist yesterday who started with a hand-drawn piece of art that he did. And it was a building. He was trying to, his goal, his end goal was to make a big cityscape of like a like what am I trying to say like cyberpunky right

everyone loves that look for whatever reason but he wanted to start with his little cottage and make it look like this thing had always been there for a hundred of years and this weird city

built up around it so he did it in chunks it was like I'll start with that I hand drew that okay I've colored it it's done now I'm gonna just square off

this thing right next to it okay that's gonna be a building I'm gonna sort of sort of lasso what looks like the outline of a tree over here palm tree. And boom, a palm tree appears. And he just slowly built this thing out until he had this

huge collage. And it was all in the style of what he started with his own hands. And I look at that and go, all right, that makes sense to me. Some may still have problems of that saying, well, that's shortcut you shouldn't take. You should have, you know, it's all about having the skill to do all of that yourself. I understand those arguments. But, you know, he went from a human thing to filling out the rest of it in a very human way with the assistance of very advanced tools. And boom, ended up with a really cool piece at the end. Now we're talking. That's practical and useful.

That's interesting. What isn't interesting is going, you know, we got the little naked kid from the Nirvana album. And when I blow it out. He was in a swimming pool. Turns out he was in the ocean. He's in the ocean. Can you believe it? This is a game changer.

Shut up. The game changer. I freaking hate it. The person with the dollar bill was Abe Vigoda. Who knew? I clearly have a more of it. I have a bigger issue with these people than I do. do the tech but yeah well to be you have to be careful that you say like like you don't have a problem

with technology you have a problem with the people we got to be careful that we're not when you say that you're not separating them oh no no no no they're still there we have a problem with the people but they are that they are inexorably intertwined because so that is not those are not two separate issues they are the same it would be but i'll tell you this here it would be the same same reaction if somebody made a video of a, they knocked a plant over. There's potting soil all over the hardwood floor. And he walks in with a vacuum and goes, and sucks up a bunch of it and then looks at the camera and goes, this is a game changer. You see what I'm saying? You're overblowing it. Like, blow it, just don't overblow it. That's all. Or act like your little blue check Twitter account

is the one that figured it out. Can you believe I discovered an ocean behind? No. you highlighted the thing. You outcropped it and said go. You didn't do anything. Right. Right. Right. So anyway. You didn't discover anything. Yeah. Sorry. I have beef. I have beef for these people. Some beef. Certainly some life. Anyway, it's fascinating stuff. We'll probably in the future. I'd have to guess this segment will touch on this stuff more because it continues to evolve at a rapid, rapid pace. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Lots of people doing research about it. Indeed. Bobby, tell people where your show is so they can get more of this great content. podcast. I do a weekly science podcast called All Around Science. This episode that just came out on Monday yesterday, Mora taught us all about bananas. What? Bananas. You mean B-A-N-A-N-A-S? Wow. That's my grandson's favorite thing to eat and also full of potassium, those things. Yeah. Apparently, though, and I don't want to, I don't want to scare anybody, including your grandson. But it's possible that we might not have bananas for very. long.

Oh, well... Yes, we have no bananas. No. Sorry, it feels like it's the most obvious joke to make there. Yes. But it's, there's a, that's what we talked a lot about, about how bananas possibly could be eradicated because of fungal infection and that it's a problem that we've known about for a long time and have not been able to get a handle on and it's only getting worse.

So, and it's happened before. The banana we know now is not the banana from 100 years, like from even, I think, 80 years ago that we're in, that people ate. We're not going to get, we're not going to talk about those weird plantain things, are we? No, no, no. There are a different time, they're a different kind called Gromichelle, and they were apparently sweeter and creamier and better. But, uh, we, um, I don't know how I feel about creamier banana, but creamier bananas. Yeah. There's one thing I can play the most about bananas.

They're not creamy enough. But there's a ton of different kinds of bananas, and we talk all about it on all-around science. So if you want to learn about that, you should check it out. I think that's a great idea. And Bobby, of course, we'll be here each and every Tuesday to talk about cool science stuff as it breaks. Bobby, have a fantastic week.

We'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Bye. All right, Brian, we're going to test this, see if this kills our call. Ready? Here goes. Did it go? No, I'm still here.

Okay. Okay. If I get rid of him, if I, see, here's what I have to do. If I, sorry, hang up on him or whoever it is first, then I don't have a problem. But if I, if I rejoin the windows before I remove him, I think that's what kills us. Sure, sure. Oh, man. Okay.

I'll stay tuned, everybody. I asked Chad GPT real quick, what is a creamy banana? Here's what it said. Okay. A creamy banana is not a specific term or widely recognized phrase. However, based on the individual words, one might interpret it as the banana has a smooth, rich, or creamy texture. Bananas themselves are naturally creamy when ripe with a soft and smooth consistency. It's also worth noting that bananas are not often used as an ingredient or are often used as an ingredient in various recipes to add a creamy texture to smoothies, desserts, and other dishes.

If you have a specific context or recipe in mind, please provide more details so I can assist you further. excellent excellent we'll see there you go that's good stuff uh all right we are done with the show but not done entirely because we got to play a phone call and this is about eating people oh gosh okay i'm kind of uh frightened yeah you should be it's almost a minute long another reason to be scared all right so here it is enjoy and we'll talk about it after uh this came to 801 471062 you can also have your voicemails on the show like this person hi brian hi scott I was listening to yesterday's episode of the morning stream where you were talking about eating body parts, eating the human knee. Perhaps we don't eat the knee just because we simply haven't become accustomed to its taste, you know, that tasty, tasty knee.

You know, I happened to stumble upon some time ago, I happened to stumble upon a museum that actually had a whole thing about cannibalism. and one of the things that always stood out to me from this museum was prion diseases that's P is and Paul R as and Ryan I-O-N Priy-N diseases and so if you do cannibalism specifically I guess it's if you eat the human brain but it seems like if you practice cannibalism you might get this disease and it might make you stupider

so there you have it don't do don't eat the knee because it'll make you dumber, okay? This has been the PSA for today. Thank you for the PSA for that influencer. It might be too late for that influencer. Yeah, it might be. They've eaten it and become dumber. I think they win in just as dumb.

That's wild. Yeah, so the brain thing is, it's kind of like mad cow's disease, right? And it's supposed to eat cow brains or else it can screw you up. What about chilled monkey brains? Oh, it's very good. What did that guy say? It's chilled monkey brains. Delicose. Yeah, whatever. I love that guy.

But here's the thing, though, look, if I'm going to eat a human body, I'm not starting with the brain. I'm starting with, like, a really good thigh meat. The calf. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Calf, the thigh, something. Yeah, good, like a good, what's this one, bicep. Boy, do you need to watch yellow jackets on Showtime? Oh, I assume that goes places with the whole cannibalism. Goes places, yes.

Yeah. Is it worth, I feel like, okay, so I watched three episodes, and then I just got busy and I just didn't get back to it. yeah um it's not that i didn't like it i just feel like i'm signing up for a really long haul do you know what i mean yeah yeah do i want that i feel like i don't know if i want that like a long haul like um we're enjoying it a lot teen and i are jk grammar and uh his girlfriend and i can't remember her name but they think that speak of bananas they think that show is bananas um i I, yeah, Tina and I've been digging it, and it just feels like a, what's the best comparison? Not like a breaking bad level, but like a, Sarah. Is it like Lost?

Sort of? No, no, it's darker. Definitely a lot darker than Lost. I don't know. Usually three episodes is my barometer. If I don't like something by three episodes, then I don't continue with it. And that's, you know, I didn't with Golden Girls, for example. That's right.

I forgot about that. Yeah, I guess I, but it's weird because I got to the end of three episodes and I didn't, I didn't not like it. I just sort of went. I kind of had this feeling like, oh, boy, I got to get ready to really get in here and not stop. And then I got busy. And then I'm like, oh, do I go back? It kind of felt like a huge video game. Survival, survival game kind of.

Kind of a little bit, because you got to start out with all these hints and bits. and pieces and they got to all add up over time and I don't know something about the way it's structured it's the kind of thing I normally would say I like on paper I like that but in this case I don't know I just felt overwhelmed by it it's it's yeah you know what I will say that it is a very

it feels like a very heavy show and I like the handmade's tail comparison Drenched Wildfire came up with probably that is the the level of heaviness comparison because I love that show I watched every second of that thing yeah and it's it's not soccer moms it's a you know young high school soccer team but you you live in both the

the the world not the world the time frame in which they're plane crashed and they're stuck in the mountains versus the the time frame in the future where some of them have survived and grown up and are having weird connections to all that what's her name is so good in there um she was in that one episode of last of us again they gave her name yes yes uh she So good. What the heck is her name? She's Melanie Linsky. She has a way about her.

Something about her when she's like she's, there's something. Very genuine about her. Did you ever see that movie she did with Kate Winslet, beautiful creatures? Yeah, that's the other one. Yeah.

I was trying to remember what I'd seen. Yeah, that's her. She has this way of looking kind of mousy and innocent on the outside, but then something dark inside. It's really hard to explain. I'd love her though. She's very believable with her.

Yeah, she's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Christina Ricci is Christina Ricci is Christina Ricci, in my opinion. There is a, you get, you know what you get with Christina Ricci.

It's almost like hiring Crispin Glover. You know what you're going to get. And that's not to say I don't like Christina Ricci, or Juliette Lewis, for that matter. Sure. But in both cases, you get the thing that you paid for. You get Juliette Lewis. You get Christina Ricci.

Yeah, that's what you're in for. Whether you like it or not, that's what you're getting. I don't know. I'll have to get another show. Anyway, I would go back. The first season's fantastic. People are like, yeah, I'm mixed feelings on the second season. I totally get that.

So your results may vary. I might rip through Barry season, final Barry season first. And then I really do feel compelled to catch up on the one that just ended. Succession. Thank you. Yeah. Team and I are doing, like, we're watching Succession together and I'm watching Barry Solo. Oh, nice. Barry Solo.

Barry Solo. That's the best Barry is Barry Solo. Barry Solo. He was Greg Carbonite and all that. Couldn't see. Bobafet. I hate that they tell you how he got his name as Barry Solo. It's just such a disappointing story. A story point. 100% agree. I freaking hated that. I hated that. All right. Well, that's it for the show. Don't eat people, I guess, is the lesson there from that call. And if you want to call in 80147-10462, you can also leave texts there. If you'd prefer the email way, that's fine, too.

That's the morning stream at gmail.com. Real quick, want to mention our Patreon, which is going to swing over into a new month very shortly. We're almost in June, you guys. Weird. Crazy. Yeah, Brian's big month, June. It's going to be nuts for you. It really is, yeah.

I mean, basically, it's going to be you and Monica for quite a few couch parties. Oh, yeah. I didn't even think of that. You won't be here for couch parties. For two of them anyway, for the ninth and the 16th, you're going to be, it's you and Monica, or you and Randy and Monica or whoever. You're here this week, though, right? I'm here this week, yeah, for Couch Party this week.

So, yeah, watch stuff that I don't like for Couch Party. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. We should do something this week that we definitely want to do together. And then I'll come up with something. I don't know what it would be. Maybe we'll watch some Golden Girls. There you go. You know what?

Awesome. Do it. Please. You might do that, actually. All right. Anyway, join us over on Patreon. Perfect time to hop in right before the turnover. You get new stuff next month.

Patreon.com slash TMS for all the details. That's going to do it for today's show. Brian brought a song. He will now tell us what it is so we can play it. Yeah, Casey rode in. Casey says, by the way, I have tons of requests for May. I still have quite a few for June. If you have not, if you've made a request for May and it didn't get played,

I'm going to try and get some of the older requests in. I try and get those worked into slots in June, but apologize. We ended up with a lot of requests. in May and I think that was because we had so few at the beginning I said hey send me requests and then people add them so I will do what I can to get through all of the well you know this this is a blanket statement I do what I can to get through all of the old requests as well as the new okay fair enough fair enough Casey wrote in says hey sauerkraut and brought worst oh it's making me hungry

I'm celebrating my 45th year of existence on May 29th oh let's party get that out early no problem I usually, like, wait a beat, and I see if you're going to do it. And if not, then I keep going. I go by a neon night in the tadpool, but I don't get to participate in chat when I'm listening live because I'm at work. I would like to request Ghost's cover of Jesus He Knows Me by Genesis. Even though she didn't like Ghost, I wish to, I want to wish my wife in heaven a happy birthday. She would have turned 36 on May 22nd.

I miss you, babe. Love the show, though, and you know that guy on Twitter lied, signed Casey. Man, that's too young. I feel so bad. Too young. Awful. Yeah, Ghost released this incredible EP last week ago, Friday. Called, I had it in the Phantom Monopolis or something like that.

Phantom Monop. All covers, and Ghost is known for doing, for including a cover or two on all their albums, which are always excellent. They released a whole album or a whole EP of covers, and this is one of the best ones. They're all fantastic. This is a great one from that. It is Genesis' Jesus, He Knows Me, Zez, Zez, Z, Z, Z.

From the phantomime EP, here is Ghost. We'll see you guys tomorrow for a Wednesday edition of TMS. You see the face on the TV screen Coming at you every Sunday You see the face on the billboard That man is me On the cover of the magazine There's no question why I'm smiling

By a piece of paradise And you buy a piece of me I'll get you everything you want I'll get you everything you need You don't need to believe leaving here at a disbelieve in me because he says he knows me

and he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus all my life oh yes he knows me and he knows I'm right and he's been telling me everything is all right I believe in the family

with my ever loving wife beside me she doesn't know my girlfriend or the man I met last night Do you believe in God? Because that is what I'm selling And if you want to go to heaven Well, I'll see you right You don't even have to leave your house

Or get out of your chair You don't even have to touch that down Because I'm everywhere Because he says he knows me And he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus All my life Oh yes he knows me

And he knows I'm right And he's been telling me Everything is all right Won't find me Everything is all right. and won't find me making no sacrifice But I could get you a pocketful miracles If you promise to be good try to be nice

God won't take good care of you Just do as I say, not as I do blessings and I found true happiness because I'm getting richer day by day you can find me in the phone book just call my toll free number you can do it any way you want just do it right away will there be no doubt in your mind you believe in everything I'm saying if you want to get closer to him get on your knees and stop breathing because he's Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right. I've been talking to Jesus all my life.

Oh yes, he knows me and he knows I'm right. And he's been telling me everything is all right. Because he says he knows me. Jesus he knows me. Jesus he knows me. Jesus in all me Jesus in all me Jesus in all me

Jesus in all me Jesus in all me If you like what you just heard There's a very good chance you will like all the shows on the FrogPants Network Get more at FrogPants.com. Help me, help me. I'm going to call in the day and give you a little morning stream of consciousness. I'm not sure why this morning, just a normal morning.

Thuns out, birds chirping. Birds chirping these days, though, and Galvesten means a little bit more since it's the height of migration. I've never really been a bird nerd per se, but kind of fun to see the oranges and the reds and the blues and the greens and the yellows all flying around outside, other than the sparrows and the crackles. Humberbirds are fun, always hovering and buzzing and zipping around, fighting for a little bit of sugar water from the theater. It's like a little war zone out there, something out of Dune, or maybe Wakanda. I don't know. Kind of inspired, but I think maybe I'll go get myself a Coke from the gas station, something sweet like the hummingbirds get. So, it's supposed to say love the show, though, when you sign off, but I do love the show.

It's kind of crazy that you could be a patron of the show for less than the cost of. a caffeinated sugar water from the gas station. And then you could have that sweet sugar in your ears for the whole month. Think about it. Support the show, yo. Hey, Scott and Brian. This is Josh from Wisconsin or Zinger. You guys are talking about

angry 20-somethings. You know, you got to remember that these kids, they just spent the last three of their lives, you know, the party years, the formative years of their young lives in a pandemic. And being told no, being told if you can't do this, you can't do that.

There's a lot of pent-up energy. Maybe something you guys could talk about with Wendy and what happened. Love the show, though. Have a great day. Hi, Brian and Scott. Last Thursday, you guys were talking about jerky, again, and talking about bear jerky, and then he got into talking about rabbit and deer.

So, like, rabbit is super greasy. It just is what it is. Deer, obviously, it's actually pretty good, pretty solid-mixed great turkey. I think what really kind of messes with us when we start talking about bear jerky is a lot of bears are, are they're primarily, you know, vegetarian fruits and nuts, but they will

go into the meat so that's that omnivore. And that's where that, I think that's where that flavor starts to turn a little bit, but it's not so great with jerky. Just my two cents, inger and with Scott. Have a great day. Good morning, Brian. Scott, I was calling about the Katie Critt comment

that you made on Monday about being awake for a colonoscopy. I'm about a day behind on the show, so I don't know if you covered it on two. I guess I'll know later today when I listen to it. Anyway, I will say that there is one procedure of the poop chute that you are awake for that is very similar to a colonoscopy,

and that's a flexible sigmoidoscopy. They don't go as far up the way, but they do keep you awake. And let me tell you, there is nothing more uncomfortable than an hour and a half on your side while you feel a hose going up. and down, filling your entire lower body with air, and as it vibrates away as they move it, it is probably the most traumatic medical experience I've ever had in my entire adult life. Just felt I needed to share. Thanks, guys.

Bye. Hey, Sorden, Bored. I'll explain this later. I heard Scott say on Tuesday show that he was waiting for good karma to come to him after rescuing those two lost phones. And we're practicing Tibetan Buddhists, and this is my understanding of how karma work. Citizen recognizes five aggregates that constitute a person's being a personality. Physical form, sensations, perceptions, mental formations, and consciousness.

These are sometimes called heaps. Aeaps net you can deconstruct a person that's separate piles. Karma is the Sanskrit term meaning action, and all willful actions are included in the mental formation aggregate. Every willful action you do was karma. It doesn't generate karma. It is karma. Good, bad, or neutral. A bardo is a Tibetan word for the transition state between your current life and the next. What happens in the barto is described in the Tibetan book of the dead. It is in the barredo that your karma slash mental formation determines your next birth, or rebirth, rather. It will be better than worse or similar to your current life and its ability to reach nirvana.

So, Scott, think of the positive karma from rescuing those phones as increasing your chance of a better rebirth. As for the current popular use of the term karma, I think a better term would be nemesis, the Greek goddess of retribution. Now, as for Sword and Board, according to the Urban Dictionary, quote, Sword and Board meaning Sword and Shield is used in role-playing games. For example, my warrior uses S&B, unquote. To be honest, I've never heard this in all the time. playing Boulder Warcraft. Have either of you? Anyway, still love the show, though. Terry Z. in Chicago.