The Morning Stream - TMS 2475: Insto TikTok

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

Americans are the worst, just ask a Canadian. If it's Candy Crush, I'll SHIT myself. Tears of the Breath of the Wild of the Kingdom. Just Lucid Enough. Silly Rabbit, Pokemon's for kids. You got No 3G, No App Store and No Lieutenant Yar. I'm In The Wrong Province, But You're In The Wrong Country! Let's Have More Dummies in Box Hats. Here Comes High Pants McGillicuddy. Do Cats have Backbones 'Cause I Like Really Want to Know. 7 Second naked fan photos. Look me up on Friendstagram. A Force of Lukes. Pulling Jeri Ryan Outta Your Butt. I'M WATCHING PORN with Tom. I got this hat from Recommentals with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, Americans are the worst. Just ask a Canadian. If it's Candy Crush, I'll shit myself. Tears of the breath of the wild of the kingdom. Just lucid enough. Silly rabbit, Pokemon's for kids. You get no 3G, no app store, and no Lieutenant Yard! I'm in the wrong province. But you're in the wrong country.

Let's have more dummies and box hats. Here comes high pants McGillicuddy. Do cats have backbones because, like, I really wanted to know? Seven-second naked fan photos. Look me up on Frenstagram. A Force of Luke's. Pulling Jerry Ryan out of your butt. I'm watching porn with Tom.

I got this hat from Recommendals with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Mega Man, you must go after him. We don't know who he is. And it's dangerous to leave him alone. I've been countless times, like over five times. I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. This is the morning stream. Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS.

It's the morning stream for Wednesday, June 7th, 20203. I don't like 2023. 2020 is a mixed bag this year. You know, we got way too many things like shootings. Oh, God, I know. Yeah. But we're having a good video game year. There's that.

So far, great. Yeah. Well, with a few exceptions. We had that horrible Redfall game that was so bad. How disappointing was that? And then there was another one that was, oh, you avoided it. It is good. I didn't even know the existence of Redfall, honestly.

You are in a wonderful place. I know Marvel. Yeah. I know Diablo Bar. I played a bunch of satisfactory. Ah. Uh-huh. Wait, what about the little...

A bunch of stuff on the little Lembernick deal? Uh-huh. And nothing new on that. Oh, you know what I did yesterday way too long? I played that Pokemon Pimball until it was too late. Oh, yeah. That's a blast. It's such a fun game.

It's so good. Yeah, I feel like it should work with the... And I'm imagining. you can re uh you can you can you can change controller assignments but i feel like the the triggers on the back the l and r triggers would almost be better flipper controls than the button and left joystick yeah i got i'm used to the way they have it but you're not wrong like why not why not have why not have the shoulder buttons uh i think you can you're right i think you can remap them but i was going to say pretty pretty sure you can just uh yeah yeah but it's cool

The game is great. It's my favorite Pokemon game, which makes no sense. It's way better than it has any right to be for being, you know, a Game Boy advanced generation deal. Yeah, even the old Game Boy, or maybe it was NES, the original version of that pinball game is also very good. We need a new one, Nintendo. You want to get me, you want 59 bucks out of me?

Here's what you do. You make a new one of those on the Switch. You do that today. I'll play it today. Okay. Yeah, so how would you do the control system? because you'd need to have the, well, you'd probably want to have the switch turned sideways to play it, right? Oh, to do it tall.

Well, so right now it's, you know, the game is currently... It scrolls up and down, which is clunky, but works. It works. It gets the job done, but that's interesting. Maybe just give you the option, you know, to flip it if you want. I don't know what your two things would be, but... That's the question, yeah. I mean, maybe you take off the joycons and you...

play them left and right with the trigger buttons for your for your flippers could do that but here's what I want to say to the people of America and beyond all right some of you think oh Pokemon that's for kids or I've never been interested in Pokemon or whatever yeah I understand but if you like pinball yeah this is one of the best pinball video games ever made like straight up it's so good solid yeah it's so good so I recommend it ever for as simple as it is it's ever for as simple as it is It's like an ever-changing table, and it's great. But, yeah, we are a desperate need of something, you know, for sure. Yeah, come on, Nintendo.

What are you doing over there? Just basking in the cash that is Zelda right now, just basking in it. Right, exactly. Oh, what do we need? We're printing money with breath of the, or with tears of the kingdom. Yeah. Tears of the breath of the wild of the kingdom. That's the one.

Anyway, welcome back to the show, everybody. We're here. Any of your kids tired of that game yet? Have you gotten your hands on the... Not yet, although Carter's been so sick. There's no way that she's been able to properly play it. So I was like, hey, you know, while you're sick, your old man here could assure you.

And she's just like, no, I'm good. I would think that, man, that's the best time to play. When you're sick, you're laid up in bed, you just sit there and play Zelda. You'd think, but she was so, she's actually doing it a little better today. But she was like, like worse than COVID sick. Like just. Oh, really?

She had puky sickness, right? No, no, not that. It was like, it's like a flu thing. So now it's just in her chest and all that. but it was just fever and can't hardly move and just awful, achy, horrible, awful. So, yeah. And none of her friends,

nobody else that went to this trip with her got it. She's the only one. And she's been very nice walking around the house where, you know, when she needed to with her mask on. She doesn't want us to get sick. And we appreciate that. But I miss,

I miss her normal jovial self. So hopefully that comes down to me. Of course. let's talk about we've been getting a lot of phone calls here on the show people like to call good I like it I do too I'm a fan

We love feedback from you people Once in a while though You people are great We love you people Once in a while though It's not what you expect So I'm just going to play this It'll make sense

So here you go Oh okay my son My son called the morning stream I guess This is Burn and 8. I was literally listening to you, so I'm just picking that show, and I'm sorry. That's it. His son, butt dialed us, and he picked it up, and it was fantastic, and I love that he went ahead and, you know, add it to it.

You can even hear a little bit of, hey, sucker and binkie. And then Bernardini takes over the call. Yeah, listen right here. Yeah, I heard it. There is sucker and binkie. I love the show, though. Can I get a, can I get a hunk? Oh. Yeah, they give me a hunk of. Listen, here's the deal. You people at home are encouraged to do that any time. You can call us or whatever. If your kids accidentally call us, it's fine. If you're drunk one night. Dial us at the airport. We don't care. We don't care. It's for real. We'll take your call no matter what you have to say. So send those in 8014710462. We also got a follow up from Jeff Sire. You know we were talking about the Mike Pence on a bike. thing and I was like, who's this for? And I said, maybe Jeff will know.

Yep. Yes. So our resident. The butching of pants. Exactly. Our, our massive fan of cross, you know, cross country riding on a motorcycle man, Jeff Seyer wrote in. Excellent.

And he lives in Grafton, Ontario, Canada. Now, I'm going to warn people a little bit. His reply to this comes from a Canadian perspective. Sure. And from their perspective, sometimes we look like idiots down there. here, okay? Sometimes there's kind of a swath that gets painted across the U.S. Yeah, a perception that maybe is a little bit more global than appears to be an actuality. Yeah, or they're dead right and we're just, we're terrible. Yeah, well, there's that.

That's possible. Sometimes I can't argue with that. He says, Dear Scooter and Bike, you are familiar with my fascination over your bizarre world of politics you have down there. Nevertheless, I have no idea the value of courting the biker vote down. there. I can tell you that up here, no one really gives a crap about bikers. Since I'm a biker, though, I do remember that this is not new for Pence. I've seen him at all sorts of biker events and believe he has been riding for a very long time. And you know how, you know how the quote, that guy does stuff I do so he must be just like me crowd works. So they are all over stuff like this. I mean, it's true. You didn't do the voice. Yeah, I should have done that.

That guy does the stuff I do, so he must be just like me. Well, no, see, now you did it, and then you can get the emails, so it's totally fun. I'll take the emails. I'll take the heat, Cameron. Take the heat. Don't worry, don't we. Put it on me. I messed up the Ferrari.

Indeed. He says, as a side note, I know American irrational fear of socialism. Some of our provinces have socialized insurance, unfortunately mine, Ontario does not. So the great capitalism God treats motorcycles as luxury vehicles, and I pay about three times the insurance rates as British Columbia. where those commies take the stupid approach of looking at years of riding experience, which is forever, number of tickets, zero, and number of accidents, also zero to calculate your insurance rate. My insurance company looks at the engine size and age and says, quote, you're an old man

of the bike, I bet you've got lots of money, unquote, state mandated disanguination for the win. Give me the sweet, sweet taste of socialized insurance, please, Jeff Sire. So, on the one hand, he's like, ah, you capitalist pigs. And on the other hand, he's like, ah, these bastards up here, give him all I need. He basically is saying, I'm in the wrong province, but you're in the wrong country. That's what he's basically saying. Yeah, that's a good way of saying it, I guess. Also, extra points for the Jeopardy word desanguination.

Love it. Big fan of the word desanguination. It's a good one. Now, if I had to guess, Jeff, put disanguination in there to stumble me up. I think he did. I think so, yes, exactly. Yeah, I'm known for a big word will come up to me and go, hey, you want to try this right now? And I'll go over a little, a little, and trip on it, but not today.

Yeah, no, you did very well. You did very well. Yeah, I may have slowly gotten into it. Disanguination is how I did it. Desanguination. Anyway. Disanguination. Yep.

Disanguination nation. That's my new nickname for I'm Ron Desanguination. Run desanguination. If your impression wasn't as good as it is It wouldn't piss It wouldn't piss folks off Like Jeannie and Brambo Bright Yeah

Because it's actually quite good It's pretty good I'm gonna keep doing it Genie and Brambo Bright Just like I keep picking up our new cat To get her used to being picked up Because guess what We're gonna be

We're gonna be hearing so much of that stupid buffoon That all I can do is make fun of them Yeah it's gonna get real weird real quick we got a lot of new people just stating they're going to run in 2024. You got your Chris Christie now. I know. You got Pence making it official. Yeah, Pence going official. Who else

did I hear? Oh, the JFK Jr. guy. I think is... Oh, really? I didn't see that one. Yeah. I don't know what his deal is, but I guess Jack Conti or Jack Dorsey of... Oh, my God. I'd vote for Jack Conti in a New York minute. In a Patreon minute.

Patreon second, even. The pompomous Natalie Don for First Lady. Let's make it happen. There you go. Does anyone know what happened? Because you just did your impression. It reminded me how Jamie Fox does this amazing impression. Do we have any idea yet what's going on with him?

Because he's like been sick or can't move or something's weird. Have you heard about this? Oh, I haven't heard about any of this. So Jamie Fox, let's see. New report says Jamie Fox is learning to walk again amid mystery health issues. His daughter said he was playing pickleball when it happened. Let's see. It's been nearly two months since Jamie Fox's family revealed the Oscar-winning actor had been hospitalized due to medical complications, suffered on the set of his upcoming Netflix movie Back in Action, co-starring Cameron Diaz.

Providing the most recent update on his health, his eldest daughter, Corinne Fox, had taken to social media to address the situation, saying her father was doing well and even engaging in activities like playing pickleball, although in a new exclusive report, an insider claims the actor is currently undergoing intense psychotherapy, or physiotherapy, sorry, to aid in his recovery. and regain his mobility. So nobody knows what happened. He's 55. Maybe it was a stroke. Could have been a stroke. Could have been. They're just not saying.

They're not telling us. And this is kind of a problem because he's a massive name. And the anti-vax crowd is running with this. They think they have all decided that it's a vaccine problem. That's what they've all decided. So it's a big mess at the moment. And it's all stupid. But I hope he's all right because that would suck.

Yeah. No kidding. Really talented guy. So we need. We need him maybe to stick around a little longer. That'd be cool. For sure, yeah. Speaking of people who do a great Trump impersonation.

Yeah, it's an amazing Trump impersonation. Yeah, unbelievable. Like, comes out of nowhere with that guy, but is dead on, spot on. Yeah, it doesn't do it all the time. As far as I know, he did it only that one time, you know? And just said, hey, here's this thing. Groove on it. Right.

Exactly. Here's something I've been working out in the background. Yeah. Surprise. And I'll never do it again. Goodbye. Anyway, hope he's all right. Let's move on to the game.

We're going to play a game. Cool. To do that, Dunoway has to join us, and I see him blinking. But I don't see him answering. Blink? See, blink?

Oh, there he is. Blink. Blink. Hey, it's time to play the Tadpooley feud. Hey. Hey, look who it is. Hey. Hey, it's Henry Winkler.

What's going on? It's nice to have you on the show. Hey, what's up? Hey, it's Brian. I'm trying to sign. into the thing. I'm trying to stall as much as I can. Hey. Nicely done. Oh, I see.

I noticed you weren't in the thing yet. A little late to the game there. Really? We got. It's one of those days where it's just like, hey, can you take me to the outpatient center so I can have a procedure done and then pick me up? Who is this? What do you want, father? Oh, man. Is he all right? That's what you got going on today? Holy cow. Yeah, yeah. I just dropped him off recently. So I'm kind of like out and about all over the freaking place and I'm just trying to get my crap together.

Is he okay? he's fine he's he's he's he's uh it was it was uh they're doing some uh some stuff just to look if he can have some surgery later on so it it was this they gave him the twilight medicine yeah and i picked him up and he's and the nurse is all like holding his hand going now mr's you know you got to be careful now you don't want to fall he's like i'm fine get me out of here i'm fine oh that's fantastic then he five minutes later he's like where am i yeah he's got that uh What are they, what that stuff called? It's called Twilight Medication.

Oh. You know what I'm talking about? No. I don't know that. I don't know what that is. What is that? You've probably had it before. Is it called Sparkly?

No, no, no. When they need you to be lucid, like when you have to like a tube, like swallow a camera or something. Oh, yeah. They need to be able to be, they need to say, hey, you need to swallow the thing now. And you need to be far enough out of it to go, okay. And not so much into it, you know. Yeah, you have to commit to it, but your body can't have all its natural, like,

resistance to swallowing something exactly you can't you can't be normal because normally you'd be going stop yeah yeah yeah because your your natural inclination is to reject that you don't want that just lucid enough basically yeah just do they want you to be in what they call the twilight zone or the twilight area and i'm like wait is that like the zone or is that like the vampires i think it's the sparkly vampires as brian alluded to earlier with the sparkly bit but i i look i don't i don't want to yuck anybody's yum on the on the on the vampire front but um boy those movies don't hold up kim was watching one of them the other day wait those twilight movies are shit holding up holding up implies that at one point they did well that's a good point are you telling me the the muse

music fueled vampire bat uh outdoor event doesn't hold up i find that hard to believe well i mean that's what i would have found hard to believe as well but i i watch i just thought oh well this it'll be bad but it'll be okay bad like it'll just be on or whatever and I watch maybe 5 10 minutes of it it's garbage it's garbage I do love watch the behind the scene stuff and that kind of when like running like vampire

fast and it's like and they show behind the scenes or like they're on like a like a dolly with a treadmill yeah and it's just it's just fan freaking test it's so dumb it's pretty it's pretty dumb but anyway don't don't waste your time is all I would say hey look we got a contestant on the line

we actually we we tried to pull in somebody who was there and then now they're not. That was called Janney. Our next up person, though, is this person right here. Lucky 7. Lucky 7, welcome to the show. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you guys? Fantastic. Have we had you on before?

No, this is my first time. I've listened to you guys for years. We've had Lucky Phil, but not Lucky 7. Yeah. Lucky 7 is a good number. I like it. Well, Lucky 7, who spells a L-U-K-E-7, which is pretty cool. Welcome to the show. Brian will explain what this is, how it works. You probably know, but he's going to try to give you some prizes, so it's important that we all listen. So Brian, tell us how it works.

Hey, all right, everybody tuck in and listen to my words. It's time to play the Todd Pooley feud. I've surveyed the Tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Lukey 7, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes backbone and calico two games backbone and calico but

both cat-related would name two things related to cats are they both cat-related? I know backbone well cats have a backbone and some cats are calicoeco mine doesn't have a backbone he's a worm. It's just like pick it up and it just hangs

yeah he's more quick he's more he guys like a like a wet water noodle or whatever awesome all right those sound fun those would be playable. Oh, backbone. I know what that is. I played that. That's a great game. Very cool. Uh, point-click adventure game. Yeah, really good. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Uh, all right, well, let's, uh,

cool, cool, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Uh, let's go ahead and get to your topic. Uh, we asked 295 tadpullers to give their best answer to this. Eight of them said, uh, uh, hands on buzzers. What app keeps you from getting any sleep? Brian. And, Tic-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T. Damn it.

Number one answer on the board, T-T-T-T-T-T-T-KKK. No answers can beat it, so, Lucie 7, you will be working with the... Not even Insto-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-K-T-T-T-K-L-All. All right, two of you can be working together. Let's see what you guys can come up with. What app keeps you? from getting any sleep. Does the Apple 4 on the Steambeck count, by the way?

The news app, right? It's like the Apple news app, that thing, oh, my God, it's terrifying. No, I'm just kidding. What do you think? What is, what are you thinking? TikTok is definitely something I do. I had to give up TikTok because it was coming too much of a problem. And then I immediately migrated over to the YouTube shorts, which is just as bad.

Is it reels or shorts? Is that way? Shorts. Shorts. No, yeah, Instagram is real as Reels. YouTube has shorts. Shorts are probably the closest algorithmically to what TikTok does.

They're pretty good. Yeah, it's basically just become a carbon copy of my TikTok, so I'm getting close to just deleting YouTube now. So you think YouTube? Is that our answer? Yeah, YouTube shorts. Well, I guess it'd be YouTube. I want to go to bed, but you won't. You keep me up.

YouTube is now what I'm watching to help me fall asleep because I'll put on one of these people who does the, all right, here's what's going on with the construction at Disneyland. Looks like downtown Disney, they've added two girders to downtown Disney and they've put up a scrim in

front of part of Tarzan's castle or Tarzan's tree house. I'm falling asleep now, just hearing this. Yeah, exactly. It's like, wow. Exactly. I didn't know that was a thing. That's really interesting. There's the tubes up there. There's somebody who does that? Is there a show? It's a show or something? Yeah, it's a show. It's a series called Fresh Baked. It's a guy named Fresh Baked and I love watching his videos, but my God, the

some of his reports are just on the most trivial things of what should still be trivial, but it's like the trivialist of the trivial. Anyway. Anyway, let's get to it. YouTube. Show me YouTube. Is that on here? Of course it is.

Yeah, fourth down. I'm a little surprised. Do you think we need to mention the Insta? You think the Insta is keeping some Gen Z away? Is that or what do you think, Millennials? Who is that now? I know. It's mostly millennials. I know people that sit there and scroll through that thing, like, just nonstop.

I don't know what the Zs are using. The Zs are using something of their own, and I don't know what it is. Snap. Well, I don't want to give me answers. Why may give an answer to the way? What are you looking for? Apologies. Yeah.

Good Lord. Yeah. All right. Well, let's start with Instagram. You guys say an Instagram final answer? Yes, Insta. Okay. Show me the Insto.

The Insto TikTok. Yeah, number five on the board. So TikTok, YouTube and Instagram. Kevin answers left. I know the kid stays up all night doing the Snapchat, but what do you think? Is that tattooers? I mean, the low-hanging fruit would be the tweeter. Ah, yes.

Oh, God. That's probably number two. I'll bet that's number two. I don't want to be upset all night. I don't go to Twitter for a market of Ben, stupid Twitter. But yeah, Twitter is probably a good answer, though. You're probably right. We're going to go with the bird app.

Show me the bird! Oh, wow. Good points. Good points. I think that says something, that it's lower down. Yeah, I think so, too. I was expecting that to be number two. Yeah, I think if you had asked this question five years ago, that would have been number one or two.

I don't know what that means. Anyway, what else be thinking? What else you got in your pockets are killing me? Gosh, dang it. Last one I have that I think is just guaranteed has to be Facebook. Yeah, Facebook is. I'm sure there's people still doom scrolling on Facebook. That feels like a tad pool thing to do.

Maybe. Yeah. They're on there a lot, a lot of them. This is me watching... They got a group on there. Watching Tina or watching, sitting on the couch, watching Tina not watch Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among the Thieves because she's scrolling through Facebook and I'm thinking myself.

I must see what Facebook shares. Yeah, my guess is at some point she's going to say, I'm just not really liking this movie. I'm like, well, because you're not watching it. You're looking at Facebook. Slaps the phone out of her hands. Like, so you're looking at Facebook. That movie's great. great. She missed out. It is so good. We finished

it last. We watched it, not last night, night before last, and loved it. Very good. I actually get more pissed when Audra says she enjoyed the movie, but she spends her entire time on Facebook. I'm like, bullshit. You didn't even see it. Tina definitely enjoyed it. She absolutely enjoyed it. So let that be. She has never played. She's never

rolled a 20-sided die in her life. So there you go. That should be a good review right there. All right. Show me what we're talking about. Show me the Facebook. Number six. Head of Twitter. Five answers still on the board. Scott's not out of it yet.

Still plenty of points to be had. It's a fascinating toll. I'm still thinking that Snapchat's going to be in there. What do you think? Am I off with the Tedpool there? They're Facebook people mostly, right? That's where the largest group is. Well, I think they're...

I've never used it personally, but I mean, we can give it a go. I don't want to give Scott even a chance to even look at this board. That's where I got my first seven-second naked fan photo was on Snapchat. If you were to answer, what would you say, Scott? I'd say, hold on, I'd say InstoFrenster. Insto-Frenster. Insto-Frenster. Yeah.

We're going with MySpace. We're going on with MySpace the app. Friendstagram's not bad. Instagram. It's not bad. Fine. Do you think we need to think outside the social media? box or do you think we should just go

I mean is there any like kind of killer game maps that the frog pants have been kind of that's good candy crush that's you know but oh geez what do you I'm sorry hello are you really in touch with the yeah the temple candy crush

I think a lot of her playing snake you think they're playing you know that solitaire is a real killer these days good lord candy crush call it I'll let you call it I'll let you call it what do you think what do you think what do you think uh maybe like marble snap i know that was big a while back i think that is a good answer you shut up um nobody ask you marvel snap then oh snap is it up there show me show me oh snap

god look at that good call yep good call yeah still still happens to be popular with the town people like that snap game sure do got just got brand new uh spiderverse stuff in there and it's right kick in butt there's two snap How about Messenger? That's a terrible app. I think keeps me up all night. Trying to figure out what mom was talking about. What the hell is she talking about?

Is that separate from Facebook? Is that the messenger you're talking about or just built them? Oh, yeah. I'm talking about iPhone's Messenger. Oh, messages. Messages. Sure. Is that what you want?

No, no, no. I'm not going to. What do you think? What do you got another one? Or do we need to go back to Snapchat? One that's I use. I don't know if it's a tadpole thing, but I use Reddit quite a bit.

Okay, you're right. It's actually a tadpooly thing. That feels, yeah. That feels good. Reddit. Let's give it some, let's give some love to the Reddit. Show me all of the topics that I cared about at one point or another

that I just haven't had the heart to unsubscribe to. Show me Reddit. Number two answer on the board. Oh, wow. Okay. That makes sense. It's how you go find out. That does just right there make it mathematically impossible for Scott to win.

Snapchat. damn it yeah now do i want to say that was a great time to pick snapshot show me snapchat oh that x came in it and it was gone forever

would you guys would you guys please invite some of your your your kids into the the fold yeah no kidding i i can honestly say that out of two hundred and ninety five responses

right uh one person said snapchat it might even be you Brian if you logged in and answer. Snap's a big deal. I don't know who's using it, though. I don't know all the kids. All the kids, I know.

So I've got a 14-year-old in the house still. So I mean, everybody. It must be the thing there's still. Yeah, all the young ones are still using it, I guess. Yeah. That's weird. All right. Finally, I get to choose one here.

Let's do, oh my gosh, on your phone, we're down to three. What would these low-hanging fruits be? They're much higher-hanging fruits. Well, that's true. And more points, but it does nothing for me today. So I'm just going to wing it here and say, oh, shit, I just left my head. That's great. That's what you want.

You know what? Can I be general? Well, I'll tell you, and then you can tell me. A podcast app of some sort. Oh, sure. There's a lot of those. A brand for us. Good brand.

Good job. I will accept that. All right. Show me any sort of podcast app. Oh, really? So they're not listening to their murder show. stay and early. However, let's see, which one was it? One of these pocket casts did come in as number 12. That's my preferred. Yeah, I love that one. By the way, so real quick, since we're mostly

a podcast for people, if you're not using pocketcast, you really should. Like, you might be using your default thing, or you got Spotify or whatever. I'm telling you, pocketcast. Yeah, downcast is fine. Overcast is okay. I think pocketcast wins. It's very good. Really? Good interface. Good Yeah, very good. Good step. Is there a car, Apple car app? There probably is. There's a watch app and there's a, they also have it on Android.

Like, it's cross-platform. It's just a really great thing. All right, okay. I'm going to try that. I'm going to try it. It's very good. I'm going to try it. All right, but that is a strike.

Back to you. Oh, and they once featured TMS, which I didn't even ask for. They were just nice and someone there listening. Oh, I didn't ask. Yeah, and Core once. Maybe they'll do it. again now that we've recommended them again oh and play retro one time too

Brian oh nice very good oh we love these guys yeah somebody somebody there like frog pants I don't know who it is yeah somebody bump those other people perfect uh another app that keeps people awake how about this their discord oh yeah the discord app yeah that's a good answer good answer

Discord that's the one I spend the most I mean it's right there in the name Disco yeah Franks you from getting any sleep Can't sleep I'm just show me show me discord. Yeah, number nine. Nailed it. Damn it. Perfect. Why didn't I think of that? All right, you guys, you're routing me here. So continue the routing, will you?

How about the Apple news app? I'm just saying I thought it was an interesting answer. I mean, we could generalize the same news. Yeah, the news app. News app. News app definitely. Yeah. Okay. All right. Show me anywhere you get your news. No, no. Not for you. Then what was all that about? One person said news apps. That's it.

Really? Oh, that's funny. I mean, the idea is that has to keep you up, I guess, and that would do it. Okay, I'm going to say, I'm so running out of ideas here. Let's say, Mastodon. No, no one wrote Mastodon. There's no way. I'm kind of out of these

All right, I'm just to throw one out It's Among Us Among Us All right Show me Among Us Shitballs Yes, one person said No, I'm sorry

Yeah, one person said among us All right, it's probably clear You know what app You know what app keeps me from getting any freaking sleep What? No, tell me The Dern Health app on the app the iOS Stupid thing

Oh yeah, though I don't like You should be standing now. I never look at it. I never look at it. I'm not standing. Yeah. Right. I'm standing for anybody at this time of night.

Right. So maybe health apps in general? Or do you watch just that? I was thinking like Netflix. Netflix? Oh, that's a good answer. Netflix. Bring it what I said.

That was just bullshit. Netflix is the answer. Yeah. Okay. All right. Show me Netflix. Oops. Oops.

Oops. Oh, what is that? Is it what you doing? Malfunction. Slight malfunction. There we go. Oh, damn it. All right.

Number 13 on the list. If that's not there, that tells me that no others of those are there. Yeah. No streaming service made it than if Netflix did. But I. Damn it. I'm going to say Spotify. Oh, that's a good one.

There's a little bit of music. Yeah. More music. Sure. All right. Death metal. Show me Spotify. Damn it.

What could these. Apple Music actually was the highest of the music ones. That was number 15. One person said Spotify. I'm surprised there's not. So, unfortunately, I mean, that's a... I like to think that people can't sleeper because they're watching their blink camera. I like to think that's a thing.

And by the way, by the way, if either of these is Candy Crush, I will shit myself. Please be Candy Crush. I want to watch... I'm happy to tell you that nobody said Candy Crush. It's funny. Because a lot of people in the Tadpool posted in the chat posted this as a joke. But 10 people actually used as their answer. What app keeps people from getting sleep?

Alarm clock. Oh my gosh. I did that. I did like four snoozes today. I feel this one deeply. Yeah. And then they're not listening music, but they are reading what's number 10? Amazon Kindle.

Yeah, of course. That's a no-brainer. Yeah, you're reading. Duh. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Some other big ones here, Pokemon Go. Still, you know, number 14, Messenger, Messages was number 17. Rage Shadow Legends, Shop Titans, a couple of games. Wordle also in there. Something called Nine Gaggag, which I guess is a meme.

Oh, yeah, nine gags. Yeah, I need to check that out. I was afraid. Don't go to that. I was afraid to go to that. Don't do. I really was. Waste of freaking life. Don't do it. Is it a time suck? Excellent. Oh, great. Beach Buggy Racing, Call of Duty Mobile, chatterbate. I don't know what that is, but... Oh, my God, I could guess.

DC Universe Infinite, Disney emoji, Blitz, Empires and Puzzles, existential anxiety, which either is a game or just how they're feeling, probably the latter. Right. Max. Max. Last Fortress, Marvel Unlimited. My favorite app that keeps somebody from getting any sleep is Buffalo Wings. Buffalo. Oh, that's it.

Because they ordered Buffalo winning. Because it's an app. Would you guys like any apps before your meal? Yeah. That's amazing. Well, gosh, dang it, though. You guys did really well. Creamed meat today.

Extremely well, yeah. And your real name's Luke, right? Correct. Another Luke. My gosh, the Luke's we have in this temple. There's so many looks. They're outnumbering the brands, really. It doesn't make any sense.

We're coming for you. We're trying to take you out. All right. Let us know. No, here's your, here's your, here's your thing from Fletcher. Congratulations. You're a winner. You won stuff.

You're going to walk away a winner and I'd like to know how you feel about these winnings. How does it feel? It feels absolutely amazing. I've listened to you guys for like 10 years now. Thank you. Love the shows. First time I've actually been able to join in live. That's great.

I'm super stoked. We're entertaining. We had fun, yeah. Plus, I don't know. You seem like a cool dude we would hang out with. So, yet another cool Luke. Yeah, another cool. And you've got a cool hand.

Another cool-handed Luke. That's right. Well, Brian will send you these directly in Discord. You probably already have them. I tried. He'll need to add me as a friend. Oh, yeah, you got a friend of them. But that'll be easy enough.

I don't know. I don't know. It seems a little shady. I know. I regret it. I regret it. Oh, you have no idea. Yeah.

If you think you've had spam before. Nine gag? Yeah. Brian's nine gag spam is going to be on point. Watch for it. We'll see you later. Thanks for playing. Hey, Brian, Dunaway.

night you and I are going to talk about Castle Wolfensteinstein, Steen, depending on where you came from and how you said it. We're going to talk about the really old 2D stuff and how that led to the ID software iterations of the first-person shooter, which changed everything. Yes, you might not know with the original Castle Wolfenstein, 1981, Silas Warner Mews software was a berserk-type clone where it was top-down action, kind of that 3D stuff. Nope, not at all. It's just a weirdest thing. And it's fun, weirdly fun to play today, even. And Silas Warner was 6 foot 9, 300 pounds,

and had to escape Chicago when his dad tried to kill him and his mom when he was seven. Yep, that kind of stuff. That's how you get your Castle Wolfenstein out of people as you give him horrible trauma to deal with and then you make a video game about it. I need to escape. Anyway, that'll be tonight on Play Retro,

330 Mountain Time for all those who celebrate. So be there if you want to be there live. If you don't want to be there live, you can catch the podcast, of course. But there's some cool history around this. come back and check out our Castle Wolfenstein special. 19thine. All right, that'll be tonight.

Done away, kiss our butts. No, you. Okay. Bye. All right. By the way, before we get to the news and an intro, we've only got 200, well, just under 300 people who've entered answers into the current batch of questions for Ted Pooleyfuge. So make sure you visit the Discord.

It's a pinned message in the TMS chatter or the Facebook. It's a pin post. But go and fill out the survey. not yet done it because the more answers we get, the better. Is it a static link? It always goes to the same place. Yeah, that's right. And what is it?

I think it's Tiny.cc slash Tadpool Survey. I'm going to try that. Tiny dot c slash tadpool survey. I think I've done that. Yeah, it is. Yeah, there you go. Tiny. C.c slash Tadpool survey.

Awesome. I'm going to put a link permanently on the site as well. I always forget. Cool. I've got most of our, like, song requests and all that, but I always forget this one. So we'll put that in there as well. Okay. Well done, everybody.

That was super fun. Let's move on now. To this. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Check out Kairos and their awesome Twitch channel. Want to see some Diablo 4? Check out Twitch.tv slash R-Syra. That's R-S-Y-R-A-H for some awesome Diablo for action.

Yeah, another one of our tadpoolers playing a lot of Diablo. always had to see. How are they doing? What level are they at? Oh, I don't know about them. Last night I hit 37, I think. Cool. I'm pretty far in the story.

I think I'm nearing the beginning of act, or no, am I in act four? There are five acts, and I'm somewhere either right before four or in the start of four. So as far as I'm, I'm not rushing or anything, kind of taking my time. But, like, I think John beat. it yesterday, beat the story. But there's still plenty to do, because you can beat the story by, you know, 40-something. And then you still have to 100 for a character if you want. Wow.

Which is all the end-game stuff. But I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably beat the story and then work on a sorcerer for a while. And then just kind of, I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do yet. But once you beat the story, there's an alternate ways to then play that aren't the story again. Further things, yeah, basically like a continuation mode, basically. Yeah, the old three-hat adventure mode, it's similar to that.

Anyway, that game's great. And it's devious that it runs so well on my Steam deck. Just freaking devious. Like, what are they trying to do to me? It's not even their fault. Somebody else came up with the method to do this, but, my gosh. Yeah, no, okay. I mean, it feels like a game that is made for Steam Deck.

No kidding. It's so good on there. And it's not as hard as people think to get it working. So if anyone wants to know, I'll put it in Discord. It's super easy. It's actually Run Stump Jump or Bill from A&P Season 1. Oh, really? Okay.

He put together a really great video, and it's so simple. It took me in like five minutes to do it. Nice. Cool. Okay. Because you can't just do it, do it. Of course not. Yeah, you have to.

A couple of hoops, but nothing too hoopy. That'll net it. All right. All right. A robot pizza startup, okay? everybody wants to make restaurants of robots in it yes AI pizza get me going start it up yep they got more fingers they can make more pizzas quicker if you're AI driven anyway a robot pizza startup shut down after the cheese

kept sliding off everything basically like robot pizzas done yeah yeah yeah yeah and shoot the cheese slides like herky jerky movements are making the cheese slide off this is pretty great a robot pizza startup that it raised almost to half a billion dollars has shut down after a series of technological setbacks according to the information not the information but the place not according to the information but according to capital the capital information the news organization known as the information uh the company founded back in 2015 was working on a mobile pizza making machine for years but struggled to turn it into a reality as a result the company pivoted to work uh on sustainable packaging back in

in 2020. But given the fact that the company ended up insolvent, per the information, that the new direction hasn't worked out for them either. It's a shocking turn given the sheer amount of money investors have put into this thing. Right now, $375 million from multinational giant soft bank, which is renowned for its poor investments like infamous WeWork. I really, oh no. I mean, they're also known for their successful ones too. That's why they have the money. It's not like, they always say this about these guys. Like if you back one failure, like, oh, notorious. Exactly. It becomes your badge of the thing on your forehead forever, basically.

You saw the rework dramatization, right? No, not yet. It's on the list that the We crashed. I think it's what it's called. That's it. I've been nervous to watch it because I've watched the documentary and it was great, but those people are so unlikable. The people that ran all that.

They're so unlikable that I'm sure if I see a dramatization, I'm going to be irritated. Wow. Which is another thing I'm doing recommending. mental today. I have a recommendal, but I have a stay away mental today. Ooh, a mechemental, basically. Even worse, like a avoid a mental. Oh, wow. So, so unhappy with it. I have to let people know that they should watch out. Jeez, okay. It sucks. It's not called parasite, is it? No, no. I hear that's good. Yeah. I'm trying to remember, so I've been watching

something, I still have it. It's not my recommendal tomorrow, but it might be, or today, I mean, but it might be the one I use next week. But I'm looking through my notes to figure out where I heard about this thing because I can't find any information. Like, you know, you look through your emails, you look through. Oh, was it recommended to you? And you just don't. I think it had to have been.

I can't think of any other way I would have discovered this thing. Oh, weird. And you're liking it, though, whatever it is. I am. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm interested. Oh, do you hear they canceled?

Yes, Perry Mason. Dude, that's like a legit, really good show. Why you can't? in season two was so good. I still got to watch it, but I'm just... Well, you don't savor it, and it ends in a way that you can, you know, you can call it a true ending, so... Get that Shea Wiggum.

It's got Shea Wiggum, and it's also got Frickin' Hope Davis, who has maybe one of the best agents in the business, because she is in everything. Yep, she's in all things all the time. Yeah. She's the Oscar Isaac of Ladies, feels like. She is. She totally is. So here's this deal here.

it's not easy making a mechanical pizza ilo. What does that mean? Pisa'ilo. Where is that? Oh, pizza Ello. Pisa'i-o. Is that way of saying a pizzeria or something? I, or a pizza creator, like a pizza chef, is a pizziolo.

Pizza yolo. I've never seen that word before. It feels like somebody accidentally fell asleep on their keyboard as they were typing the word pizza. It's not easy making a pizza. I have never heard that term. It's weirding me out. Let's move on to this story. Surveillance video shows box wearing bandit allegedly burgling a Florida grocery store.

Brian, you have to see this photo. I can't wait. The best thing on the planet. Look at this guy. I really want like there's somebody to be behind the counter going, like in Metal Gear Solid with the moving cardboard boxed. Yep. I have that somewhere.

Where is that? I think I have that. Do I have that? I don't know if I have that. It's got to be under metal gear. Nope, that's a fart. Oh, Jesus. Oh, dang it.

Where is that? I have that somewhere. Is this it? No, it's Van. Hello, China. No, that's something else. Roba. That's not it.

All right, well, I don't know where it is. But anyway, look at, look for metal. Like, search for metal or gear or solid? I can go back in here and look. I know I have it in the actual thing, but. Let's see, metal gear sound. Here it is. There it is.

Ah, perfect, excellent. That's what I want to play. Is there anything, let's see, that never, that started with PS1, right? Yep. Well, the, so they had the two NES games. Oh, yeah. But I don't remember if you could hide in a box. I don't either, but I want something I can play on the, on RG, on my RG 35.

Oh, it's on there, I think. um well wait did you do did you do the uh yeah it's the PlayStation group mine's on there but i don't know if you have the ROMs or not oh I have I have everything Scott okay whatever whatever you've got I've got okay yeah whatever done away helped us legally acquire

for all the comic yeah so yes absolutely those ROMs I have those ROMs that I legally acquired so I can play yeah the PS1 metal gear yeah it's very good still yeah it's on there uh you know what else is really good on PlayStation I forgot all about is the art

Ridge race No, that is a bad fighting game. It's a very bad fighting game. Yeah, it doesn't hold up. But this Ridge R-Type 4, whatever it was called. It's basically Ridge Racer 4 way ahead of its time for a racing game. Like legitimately still looks good.

Some of the menus are some of the coolest design. It's just a great racing game. So if you're in the mood for a little Grand Prix kind of drift-y arcade, it's fun. That's probably a good one too for just for the capabilities of the RG35, right? You don't want anything like, you know, need for speed turbo,

probably not going to run great on this thing if you can get it on there. But Ridge Racer, I think, feels like the right level. Yeah, it runs great too. Looks good. Cool. Really good. Okay, where was I?

Oh. We were talking about the box bandit. Yeah, so this weirdo. Okay, so here's the deal. A Florida man, donned a unique disguise to burgle this, this Miami Garden supermarket. Claude Vincent Griffin, Jr., age 33,

was caught on surveillance cameras, haphazardly wearing a cardboard box, which, by the way, fell off and showed his full face. Whoops. When breaking into... Oh, yeah, right there. It's right when he was trying to break into the glass of the iPhone case. Yeah. Oh, nicely done.

So he was trying to steal iPhones. Anyway, police alleged that Griffin stole over 30 grand worth of merchandise, according to an affidavit. Let's see. Authorities Charge Griffin, who they say is homeless with 11 criminal accounts, counts,

rather, including burglary, grant theft, criminal mischief, cocaine possession, and resisting arrest. That cocaine thing just kind of snuck in there, didn't it?

It really did. Yeah, just a little sneaky bandit right there. I think he probably should have started with a ski supply store, got himself a mask, and then... Yeah.

You know? Yeah, then do your master stole some cupcakes and then smear the frosting all over his face or something. It would be a better disguise than this. Yeah, for sure. A freaking box on your head? The hell, man. Anyway, he's being arraigned and all's good.

Oh, also during his visit, side note, he stole multiple scratch-off tickets and cigarettes before exiting the building. Always the smartest thing because those serial numbers, they'll never figure out how to find you based on serial numbers when you try and collect those winnings. That's right. That's right. I do kind of wish part. of me kind of wishes that all criminals behaved in such comedic ways

and less of them involve shoot-ups and killings and awfulness and burn, burn down the place and all that. Just more dummies in box hats. The guy in Canada who swept up after his mess, like more of that, you know? Yep, I'm with you.

I don't know. More burglars like that. Make America hamburger again. Yeah. Basically the or grimace. Make it grimace again. I got a text message from Grimmis Scott. Tell me more. What is Grimmis offering you today? Let me find it, because he's celebrating his birthday, and Grimmis can't text very well. I'm going to put a little screenshot of his stupid text. Let's see it. I'm very excited. Why the hell? Why am I getting text from

Grimmis, you might ask. I would ask that, actually. One might ask that anyway. Let's see, here it is. Yeah, so June 12th is Grimis's birthday. You remember that guy who started out, the living embodiment of a milkshake that was initially evil and had four arms. It's now Ronald McDonald's best buddy. And his... Starts on the 12th, it says. Let's see. Yeah, it starts on the 12th.

Grimmis's birthday. Can you come to my B-Day? Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Don't you hate it already? And then you start reading the text.

Hi, it's me. with like punctuation and spelling errors. Why is he doing, why is that a thing they want to do? I don't know. Oh, that just tells me McDonald's makes you stupid. That's what that does.

Wow. Oh, and it says, please, PLS, excuse typos. My hands are furry and big. Uh-huh. I don't want to think about your hands or any of your big furry, anything. You can't go get a ginormous purple shake on that,

on that birthday if you're on the 12th. So rush out to your local McDonald's and get that. I'm not doing anything about that. Insta diabetes bomb right there. That's what they'll do. That's not even real ice cream over there, man.

It's just like some kind of weird. It stays thick even when it melts. How is that possible? Philip 66 material that was developed in the 70s. If, that is, if their ice cream machine is even working. I guess that's the shake machine. A whole totally different beast.

I don't know the second. Tom has a. a question. Oh, how much Apple is left that the tadpole might want to hear me talk about? Oh, I think we can talk about anything, Apple. I like Tom's take on that stuff. Yep. We love your take, I will say. All right, well, speaking

to him, we're going to pull him in right after this break. We're going to take that break and then, you know, have a song, and then Tom will come in and we'll all be ready to hear whatever he has to say. And then we'll move on from there to do some recommendals. So stick around, everybody. Brian, why you play that song we got to hear? I feel like that's just one giant spoiler, all of that.

Like telling them everything that's coming up. My God. The band Luluk, L-U-C, feels like I should sing that one. They have a brand new album coming out all the way. Oh, my God. It's going to feel like your summer is over when I say this. September 15th via community music.

Oh, gosh. Like, wait, Brian, please stop saying stuff like this because it makes me feel like our summer is gone. Luluk, brand new album, Diamonds. They're an Australian indie folk duo. They remind me a lot of like everything, But the girl mixed with a little bit of Haim. By the way, that new Aces album, freaking awesome.

It's speaking of Heim, it reminds me of if Taylor Swift fronted the band Heim, it would sound like the new Aces album. Oh, weird. I love the sound of that already. I haven't heard it yet, but I thought it was out in July, so I guess that's out earlier. It's out now. I listen to it while I was driving Dufus is around in my lift. Oh, nice. Hey, Dufus, you need to go to the auto parts store.

All right, listen to some basses along the way. Anyway, Australian indie folk duo L-L-U-L-U-C. Brand new album, Diamonds, here is the title track from that album. It is called, as you might guess, Diamonds. Played with those wily horns, come to a little score until the band of all we could do. And now the Michigan

on the road were shaking at the blind page with its carpet worn down to the glue. Maloney said you shouldn't come in here so what a chance surely knows we said nothing on stage that night just played how gentle is strong too it's all a dream they took us in that crowd no problem at all it's all a dream they took us in that crowd no problem at home

It's all a dream they took us in that crowd, no problem at all. All the projecting of my fears over these years, well I'm done with that ego game and a few of the trippers too. me I'm grateful to it all you've got to learn how you want to do things and how you never want to it's all a dream

how big or small you want it to be it's all the dream how big or small small you want it to be. I'm finding a way, it's all what you think to say. That's who you go on to become one day. my suitcase is full now

need to land somewhere for just a while let it all wash away we've got a lot of living yet to do although the bookshelves will cook our meals ponder the stars they are diamonds over the bay watch the water swell and swaying themselves of you

It's all a dream In your loving arms I'll live as well as I can do It's all a dream And your loving arms I'll live as well as I can do It's all a dream It's It's easy enough to see that tubby doesn't quite appreciate what we're trying to do for him. Got it off a hooker in Cloud City, why?

Do, do, uh, my mic, do tell who that was again, please. Oh, Brian left. Do you have an emergency poop? Where did he go? He just suddenly disappeared. Did anyone see? Did he say anything in the chat room? Is it, did he ever exist?

Was this all in my head the whole time? Have I been doing nearly 3,000 shows and he was never there? You're wondering, where the hell did Brian go? Where did Brian go? I question whether this entire almost 3,000 episode run was just me, and I just had this fake person. I'm the Tyler Dernan of TMS. Sadly, the 3D print did fail.

I did not put enough supports, and so part of it warped and will not function. Boo! Tomorrow, tomorrow, my friends. All right. All right. Well, I wondered. I wondered how that was going. That's all right.

Hey, you want to know who you just heard, Scott? Yeah, please. That band is Luluk, L-U-C, from their brand new album, which comes out in September. The album is called Diamonds. The song is called Diamonds. Therefore, it is the title track. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's how that works usually, right?

Yeah. You give it the same name. You call that your title track. And then it just automatically, right? You don't even have to say. No. Oh, I think that might be the title track. I don't know.

Yeah. Well, no one can ever truly be sure until we've heard this guy talk to us. The world of tomorrow will be as cold as sunlight tuned through photochromic windows. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, look who it is. Tom Merritt, busily digging through tech stories, trying to make sure the world is aware of what's going on. Comes on here on Wednesdays. Talks about those things.

And then we disseminate it all on the Daily Tech News show later on. Tom, welcome back to the show. show. Well, thanks for having me, Scott and Brian. Oh, thanks, man. It is our pleasure. The pleasure, as they say, is ours. You cannot measure the pleasure. You can't measure it. Oh, my gosh, you're like my dad. Hey, so Tom, welcome back. We're going to, you know, and I told the dad pull this. I get a text from Tom. He's like, you know, how much appetite you guys have left for any Apple related things. I think we're fine to talk about whatever. Like, it was a big, big announcement.

You know, they did a thing that's kind of a big deal. Also, people are still, you know, going on and on and on about the price, even though, you know, similar products are priced around the same thing. If you want to go get a hollow lens, you're going to pay about that. This isn't me defending it. I'm just trying to give some people some perspective. But, Tom, you have all the perspective. You've studied it all. You've looked at all of what was announced.

And you're ready to lay it on us. So what do you got? Don't buy it. No. I definitely feel like this is, the perspective that I'm coming at it from is this is a fairly typical Apple approach to a new product. Right. It's not that different from the iPhone. It's not even that different to the iPod, which is a wonderfully designed product that does one or two things much better than the competitors. but is severely limited because it's the first generation. And so a lot of people aren't sure that it's for them. Also, usually really expensive.

And people forget that the original iPhone was $799 in 2007 money, unsubsidized. Yeah. That's right. You had to pay a lot for that thing. It did the Edge Network. It was not even 3G. It had no app store. It was a tiny little three and a half inch screen, but it had the touch screen, had the touch interface.

And that was the selling point. That got people excited. If you go back to the iPod, it only worked on Mac. And yet, it had that click wheel. And it was expensive. And it was a pricey little bugger. I mean, that was like $500 something, too, right? 1,000 songs in your pocket, though.

1,000. Yeah, a whole thousand of them. That sounds like a limitation now. Back then, that sounded like a lot. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And that, but you're not wrong. So I feel like, I feel like what you've described so far is always how they

release something new. Like a whole, they kept calling it a new computing platform and it kind of is. Spatial computing. Yeah. And that's, so to do that, they release it. The problem that they run into, I think, is that all of those things you mentioned, you know, Macs, iPods, now phones, everything else has all gotten cheaper because when they become massively adopted, they get.

cheaper and you know that's just had the way these things go so now you can spend a whole lot less for those things that used to be ridiculous and far less functional that'll probably be true of this as well but because they're such a consumer facing company they're always talking to us even at a developers conference it's like they're yes they're talking to developers but part of them talking to developers is talking to us about what we get excited about so the developers will make cool stuff for it and when you do that you run this risk of we're about to release a thing at a ridiculously high price and it makes them seem a little out of touch with average people a little bit and even then they'll show a video of a guy who you know making toast while he's wearing his thing and i'm thinking

that guy that guy just wasted two months of rent like why would he do this yeah right he's about to be evicted because he can't pay his rent but he's got toast yeah but it is this moment he's eating toast because that's all he could afford yeah exactly but it is it's easy to see that and go oh my gosh how out of touch can you be? But Tom is 100% right. This is how they've always done this sort of thing. And when they, like, I even think the naming is interesting. When they named it Vision Pro, that tells me that they've got a high-end developer-interested sort of device that's there to start things off.

And that later, this naming convention switches. The Pro will always be a high-end expensive version of this thing, but they will then introduce customer-friendly. priced models down the road years from now but they'll be able to say well that's the Vision Pro when we continue to make that for our pro users but now here's the Vision Junior whatever the name is I don't know what it'll be

Vision Jr. It's probably bad but you know yeah so do you I mean do you think I'm up a tree with that or is that that's probably no no I don't I think you're firmly planted on the ground a lot of people like to complain about Apple stuff being expensive and how this time

it's too expensive and Apple isn't worried about that. Apple is worried about mind share and if the past couple of days are any indication, they got it. They got everybody thinking about it. They got everybody talking about it. As you pointed out, this is essentially a developer kit. If you look at the HoloLens, if you look at the Magic Leap when they were sold to developers, that's what they cost. No, it is not as cheap as a MetaQuest Pro, but the MetaQuest Pro also collects data on you and is subsidized by meta in a lot of other ways. But it is closest to the MetaQuest Pro in the pitch. I think a lot of people forgot that too. When Zuckerberg came out and showed off the MetaQuest Pro, it was essentially showing the same use cases, using it as a workspace, you know, putting your windows up and using it to chat with folk.

and all of that. I mean, that's what Apple did. They showed you putting up office things and web pages and chatting with folks on FaceTime. Like, the use cases are no different. The question is, which one are people going to plunk down for? And I heard the Economist podcast compare this to Android versus iOS, and I feel like that's fairly similar. You've got the more affordable but subsidized by advertising MetaQuest Pro that you can get your hands on. And then you've got the more expensive but privacy pitch oriented Apple version, which arguably might be a better piece of hardware. The one thing I've noticed from every reviewer is they even sometimes begrudgingly say, this is a really good piece of kit. Like what it says it's going to do, it does really well.

There is virtually no latency. Nilai Patel from The Verge was talking about how he could take notes on his phone while wearing it. The video passed through was that good. And he's like, I've never been able to do that with any other headset. So it is a marvelous piece of engineering. And I think what Apple did by announcing it six months early plus, right?

Because it's not coming until early next year was try to get developers interested in working on it so they can drum up some good ideas and have a more compelling pitch when they bring it to folks in early January, February, whenever they decided to announce it. Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's all right.

I think that what they were showing its use cases as, despite all of its, you know, this presentation was as Apple as you get. I was telling Brian yesterday, they felt like a bunch of androids half the time, these people. I really like the, I love watching. This may sound strange or maybe even creepy. I don't mean it to be,

but I really enjoy watching the women of Apple present. They are really compelling people, and I find them way less weird than the men at Apple. And I don't know why that is, but the rest of those guys all walk around like weirdos. They're just weird to me. The women, I'm like, okay, she's awesome. Have her talk more. She's great.

Have her say more stuff. And then out comes high pants McGillicuddy going, all right, I'm going to have a guitar for a second. But yeah, I got you. So anyway, all that aside, the use cases of a little pinch does a thing, the very simple sort of control of all that and the world being see-through through through all of it. and me being able to put up screens. Like you don't have to... The other thing, a lot of people are like, yeah, this does all the same things

as the Quest Pro. But the reviews of the Quest Pro were like, yeah, it works pretty well. The reviews of the Vision Pro are, it works stunningly well. I don't have to hold my hands in a certain place for the gestures to be recognized. I don't have to hold a controller at all,

and I forgot that I wasn't holding a controller. I look for those kinds of things in these reviews because these reviewers are going to pick it. stuff and they weren't picking at that stuff and I think that's significant. I do too and I also especially because this is pre-production hardware I mean it's not even ready to ship you right as a as a gamer as a gamer uh I would say that it's it's lack of any focus on gaming they may mention a few things like Apple arcade will work with it around that's fine yeah you can play two D games in it is kind of yeah you got a big screen up in front of the end you can play games which is cool

there's nothing wrong with that but having it not be gaming focused is for a lot of the circles I talk around in on the online seem to be a problem for a lot of gamers. Not me. And I, I don't know what it is about VR, but VR has not been the killer app for gaming that everyone thinks it is, despite what my co-host on Corpoh thinks. He's sure it's the future, but I'm not. And I've yet to be proven, have anything prove me otherwise. And so these other use cases are what are far more compelling to me. And I was ready at the drop of a hat, if they would have said, 799, I would have gone, bye. Bye. Yeah. Six months ahead, I would have pre-ordered it.

Make my money. Yeah. But when they sent $3,500, I went, oh, no, no, no. No, I'm not doing this. You have a typo. You guys have a typo in your presentation. I think there's a... Yeah, the 500 became $3,500.

You know, those keys are close together. Yeah. And I have no doubt that that thing is full of... It's insane tech, and they've been working on a few years. Honestly, you don't need to have high-resolution screens on the outside with curved glass just to show eyeballs. Just to show your eyes. I mean, there's a lot

of expense in showing you eyeballs. That is, I'm curious at what other use cases they have for that front screen, because right now it's show you the eyeballs or show you that the person can't see you. That's it. It's basically, it's going to flash, they're watching porn.

But you won't know it's doing it. You don't know it's telling everybody in the room that you're watching porn. Yeah, it's a weird thing. It's just a, it's, to me, though, it just seemed like the kind of stuff I'm interested at a price point I can't afford. Yeah, yeah. And so, but like you said, and I really agreed with you.

In fact, the first thing it is, I said that price to Tom on text, and he wrote back and said, eh, think of it as a developer price. And he's right. Yeah. If you want to go get the current Microsoft HoloLens, you're going to pay the same money. I think $3,900, I think, is what you pay. Yeah. No one talks about that.

Right. To the point of most of the people listening, you didn't buy those either. I don't think Apple really expects you to. They're not going to judge the success or failure of this product based on unit sales. That's not what it's about. Yeah. I said somebody on Twitter, it's Twitter, of course, but he said, $3,500. I'm calling it now.

This is the new Newton. And I thought, wow. I couldn't talk to the, I couldn't reply because I realized I'd need 10,000 characters to do it because his scenario is all wrong. about 500 different ways but I don't think price people are putting price so much at the forefront of this because they think they're supposed to go into the store and pick it up yeah no I get it they think they're going to the mall next week to try one out and then decide if they're buying it and it isn't going to be that kind of product not not right away and and and to tom's point even though the Newton kind of itself was a developer product that uh you know tried to pretend the things to

come as far as like touchscreen and writeable you know being able to to hand write on a device that we do have now that we had, you know, in other things. I think the palm was doing it before the... I don't remember. The palm came out after a year around the same time. So, you know, it was basically a... Yeah, it's expensive.

It's the thing, the shape of things to come. But, you know, we're trying things out. And the question then becomes, can they make a confident enough use case out of this one to cause you to want to get the next less expensive and likely less capable one? So when they come out with the vision light or whatever they call it and it doesn't have the eyeballs on the front and it works more like a second screen than it does.

Yeah, maybe no Dolby Atmos. I mean, that was really the thing, the killer app for me. And I described this before we saw the presentation. I said if I can basically wirelessly have this be my Mac minis monitor and I can have. all the screens up and use my mouse and keyboard or use touch to do things that's that's what i want but um and i and i think they might if they if they get enough use cases they might put out a version that is that that it's like well this one this one will work with your phone your tablet your mac uh but it won't work on its own it's a secondary display but they didn't want to come out with that

first they wanted to show this thing as a as a working unit that you don't need anything else for because I think they really want to prove what it can do without limitations and I think that's probably a smart choice but it's a gamble because if they haven't figured it out yet they're just hoping that it's useful enough that somebody will

it's a decent gamble but it's a gamble do you think it's weird everybody's trying to get Tim Cook to put one on and it bugs them that he hasn't worn one in any of the videos of their presentation that you don't see Tim Cook walking around with it and I've heard people say well Steve Jobs would get up there with a phone and like ride on it and poke on it he would sit down to a Mac and show you

the new macOS features, and where's Tim Cook with his helmet on? I'm like, I don't think, I think that's weird. You're demanding that. I think that is weird. Because we haven't seen anybody, but models do that, right? Or have there been videos of, like, Craig putting on? Well, they won't even let the journalists take pictures of themselves wearing it. Oh, really?

I have a feeling this is not entirely the final form. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and yeah, also, Tim Cook never does that stuff. Right. It turns out he is not Steve Jobs. Right. Weird. Weird.

Yeah. Yeah. He also, he likes to get out of the way a little bit. He'll get up there and go. He does. Yeah. All right. Now here comes Craig with his pants too high to tell us more. And then he'll move it out of the way. Craig not wearing one. Craig is the one that I would expect to be wearing. I would expect that too. Exactly. Yeah. He's too busy having iPads zoom to throw him out of him. Yeah. The next time he comes, though, he'll have that guitar again. His pants will be too high. He'll have a helmet on. I can't wait. Craig's my man. I think he's the heir apparent when things go, you know, when he's succession. Is he the Kendall? I think he's the guy. I see the Roman, the Shiv.

Yeah. The Tom? Yeah. The Tom. Notice I named everybody so that there would be no spoilers. Yeah, we don't want any spoilers. We don't know who takes over on success. Oh, the Greg?

Could be the Greg. Actually, I literally don't know because I'm not caught up, but I appreciate the no spoilers. But anyway, he, yeah, I think he's the next guy, if I had to guess. He's so excited. I don't know if he's the next CEO. He's certainly the presentation, Matt. Oh, he's so into it. Those are two different things.

I cannot deny. Tim Cook is not. I can't deny his excitement and his kind of awkward willingness to embrace the excitement. He's just so like, all right, and he gets all bow-legged out there. And the way he leaves and comes in, it's just like this intense freaking force of nature of that guy. I love him. Anyway. Still, still you got to love that Tim Cook's finally, like feeling so, so happy that he gets to.

And we have one more thing. They don't trot that out all the time anymore. No, they don't. Let me tell you, this is special this time. Exactly. They're saving it for the... If they would do a car, that'll be the next time you see it. Well, this is truly his first fully new product at Apple's CEO, right? Because everything else has been... Yeah, 100% new form. Yeah. Everything else has been in the iteration.

The watch was under his oversight when it was introduced, but it had already been in the works. Right, right. So that's kind of a big deal, if you think about it that way. Well, anyway, more on this, as there is already... already been much of on this on the Daily Tech News show, and we'll talk more about... Yeah, there's a non-keynote announcement that I want to talk to Scott about on DTNS today. Do you hear about this game porting tool? Yeah, it's basically a rendering layer akin to things like DirectX and... Yeah, and people have been...

It translates DirectX to metal, so it's like what Proton does for Valve. Yeah, people have been begging for this for years, and they just under the radar, slip it in, And devs are already saying it's rad, like it's good. And that tells me that all you people that are like, oh, I'd get Diablo 4 if I'd play on a Mac is all I just use a Mac. You might be doing that soon. Well, there's somebody out there was doing it. So, yeah.

I mean, that's basically what my Steamdex do. I'm playing through Proton, which is a similar layer. And it runs really good. So I'm telling you, man, that's exciting, actually, for. Yeah, we're going to talk about that a little more today on the Daily Tech News Show at daily tech news show.com. Oh, I can't wait. Tom, anything else going on? You want people to poke their eyes into and have a free top newsletter. If you want to keep up with what's going on with me, go check it out. That's always a good read. Go check it out, you guys. Tom Barrett,

everybody. He is Ace Detect on Twitter. We'll see you next time. All right. Big test. Here we go. All right. We're good. I'm still here. I'm still here. I think I found the method. I think that's it. You can't get rid of me that easy. Not that easy. All right. Nicole, coming although she's showing offline that's concerning but uh she's in the chat she's oh she in the chat okay she's in the chat she is uh she is dark on discord but hey nicole if you're out there hop in there well yeah and answer that there call and uh get in here yeah make it uh make it happen tom merritt is or tom merritt sorry randy jordan is out he is in uh he's on vacation up

in canada and right canada yeah canada he's uh so that's going on so we're going to do this with Nicole. Well, what do you recommend? Oh, that's right. Time for us to do recommendals. And Nicole Spag is here with us now to do that. Hi, Nicole. This is like old school days when it was just you. How are you doing? I know. I'm doing okay. Yeah? Yeah, not too bad. Do you care if I promote something real quick? Always. Always don't care about that. Please do. I'm just, I tweeted it out yesterday. It is, I don't know. know if it's national, but it is Tourette Awareness Month. And there's an organization that helps people that have ticks, like I now have ticks.

So I'm very aware now of Tourette's and ticks. And it's an association, if you search the hashtag tick freely on Twitter, you'll find loads of information. I was very uneducated about it up until recently. And I think my son has them too. so it's a it's it's interesting so it's always been an easy butt of a joke but it is awful to experience oh yeah so i know some people with with full-blown like verbal turrets physical turrets combination of both and it's easy to you know as humans you see that that not i say behavior but you see you know people doing that exhibiting that and your first inclination is like

what the hell's wrong with them or this is weird or let's make fun of it or whatever but but having it it i can't even imagine you know it's it's it's been it's been a really weird uh experience for me because um mine was a sudden onset in in my 40s and uh apparently i'm very rare and it doesn't happen to people but i'm like i'm living proof it happens yeah so um i'm managing it now and i've i've gotten on some medication um but i still feel it it's a weird for me um the verbal stuff has only happened when i when i got covid so kind of brought it out yeah so it become everything becomes a little stickier if that makes sense yeah like you can't let go of certain oh right right yes and tend to hang around more that yeah if you ever so if you ever

suddenly blurt out that brian's a effing butthole we'll know what we'll know what's going on no that's that that's for me that doesn't what my ticks so my ticks are usually like a shoulder shrug or my, just my body kind of tenses up. And I have a vocal weird sound that comes. And I've learned through, there's a therapy called C-bit that you can actually help manage it more. But because I'm more aware of it now, I now see, I'm seeing, kind of like when you get a new car, you see that car everywhere, right?

Yeah, right, right. So there's a lot of celebrities that have ticks, too. Billy Eilish has them. There's an amazing video with David Letterman interviewing her and he is so respectful to her to like ask her about it because it's look for it.

It's a great clip. And then there's a singer. That's a recent one on his Netflix show, right? I think. Yes. It was. I think it was. Yeah, easy to find.

And then Lewis, is it Capo? He's a UK singer. Lewis Capulini or I know I'm mispronouncing his thing. He's on Netflix too. His concert, you would know the songs, someone to love or something like that. He was filmed ticking on stage because one of the things that happens, if you get, if you get anxious, if you get tired, hungry, like all those kind of things that kind of make you, can cause it. So it is Tourette awareness, any tick disorder. So if you're listening to this, you're not alone.

There's things that you can do to help. That sounds great. Always happy to promote such things. And I'm glad you're doing good. That makes me happy. Thank you. Yeah. I'm doing a lot better with services like that that kind of help me understand me more.

Sure. That's great. Well, all right then. Let's get to the recommendals of the day. These are things we've seen on streaming services that we think are worthy of your time. And Brian, you're going to start with a clip here. What do you got? I'm going to start.

This may be one of the shortest clips that I've ever prepared for recommendals. But as soon as I heard this in a documentary, Brian, watched a documentary. Whoa, what the heck is happening here? As soon as I heard this, I knew, oh, well, this has to be my recommendals clip. I'm actually very excited about this. So here it is, everybody. Check it out. Hi, my name is John Katz.

And I was the audience coordinator on American Gladiators 2008 reboot. So my producers told me that the best way to keep the audience captive would be if we sent some buses and vans out to Santa Monica Promenade, gathered up a bunch of tourists, and took them back to Culver City to film where they would not have any way to escape. And I remember that one of the audience numbers was not happy with this system and she protested by just peeing, just peeing where she was seated and it went all over the stage. But at the wrap party, I ended up getting this hat. I need to say it's so bad. I am so excited about this documentary. Anyway, tell us all about it. As soon as I heard that, I'm like, okay, that has to be the clip.

That's great. Yeah, so that is a clip from the American Gladys documentary. This thing is fascinating. It's two parts, and it's a 30 for 30 production. I don't know if this is the longest 30 for 30 production, but it's two, one and a half hour episode. So it's like three hours. But there is so much stuff about this, so much drama behind the American gladiators thing, mostly centering around the gladiators, right? No, it's actually the creators, the creators.

A guy named Johnny Ferraro, who is a former Elvis impersonator and is what you find if you go in the dictionary and look up cringe. And Dan Carr, who is actually the person who really came up with you. idea for glad ears. Johnny Ferraro is this guy who just happened to have money, happened to have a way to market things and, you know, a way to sell it. But over the years, he kind of took ownership of it away from Dan Carr who created it. And it's because of that, that cringe factor of Johnny Ferraro that you'll be disappointed to find quite a few of your favorite gladiators did not want to be part of this documentary because they were in such protest of Johnny Farrarro so you don't get you don't get Nitro who's your big you know star zap uh lace uh

sunny bronco laser you know uh love ones you do get Malibu a big a big focus on Malibu who looks like he's right out of that 80s arcade game tough guys or bad dudes or whatever who's called you get a lot of Gemini a lot of Electra talking about

the behind the scenes of this stuff and just the cutting corners of things like mats and protection for the glad ears

how many broken bones and horrible things did happen to them and how sadly that's dwarfed by this

this backstage drama You also get to hear about the American gladiators live, this thing that was in Orlando for a hot minute. That was basically the gladiators answer to a champ. What is that jousting thing you go and watch? I was just going to ask the Q-tip looking fighting that you do. I'm like a stable guy. Oh, oh, all right, got it. Oh, medieval times.

It's like the American gladiators, or it's the American gladiators version of Mediator. evil times and how horrible that went like how you know they like scrambled together to come up with uh fighting you know the battles for them to do it was the Hokkien thing that's funny um it is uh it is fascinating and it's really well done it's very there's some tongue-in-cheek stuff that happens and very behind the scenes i mean basically they say right at the beginning that, hey, we're going to use a giant screen in the background of our interviews with Johnny Ferraro to show what he's talking about and kind of these, a little bit of that. Here's a dramatization, but dramatizations that are actually done pretty well.

Were the gladiators not protected, like, when they got hurt? No. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, there's a, you see a, like, the big Q-tip fight. one of them knocks Elektra off of her platform

and she oh no I guess it's not that it's the hanging upside down from Annette Electra drops the gladiator drops and then the contestant drops on top of her but Electra's knee is between the contestant and her own

face and the contestant smashes her knee right in the right in her own face and breaks her nose and it's like Oh, my God. There's a lot of moments where you're watching this. You go,

because you're thinking about this sort of thing. They also have two scoops, which is the most popular contestant ever to play American Gladiators. So popular, they brought him back like three or four times, a guy named Two Scoops. Oh, my gosh. And they interview him a lot as well. It is fascinating.

And here's the deal. It's on ESPN Plus. I don't know if there's an easy way to watch this, But if you have cable, you can probably just log in to ESPN with your cable stuff. But I'm guessing that, you know, you could sign up for a free trial of, a seven-day trial of ESPN Plus and watch it there. Or I'm sure there might be another complex way that you can watch it. Yeah. Is it part of, it's probably part of their bundle.

Oh, well, I don't know if the bundle deal, the Disney Plus Hulu ESPN bundle. Yeah, it is part of that. So if you do have the Disney plus Hulu ESPN bundle, then you do have access to this. Yeah. I think I have it then, I think. I mean, all right, I'll have to figure it out. But those 30 for 30s kind of across the board are always good.

They're never bad. I have not seen a bad one. They're all really, really good. And the newest one is the luckiest man in the world, which I'm sure is about, oh, God, no, I'm blanking on his name today, today. I feel for you. Oh, uh, the name, the disease named after him. Yeah, Garrig.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I'm assuming that's what it's about. But, um, yeah, those are, those are always good, uh, good watches. So, uh, again, it's called the American Gladiator's Documentary. Very easy to find with that name. That's on ESPN and it is awesome. I'm all in on this. This sounds great.

So this will be one I watch for sure. Learn about people who pee in protest of, uh, being taken from their, Don't feed tourism in Culver City. Is it a documentary that may not, like, for my son, would he, he's never watched the old American gladiators? Would someone like, that's never watched the show care? No, it's probably more about the controversy, right? And less about the actual, quote, unquote, support around it. It is, but there's, but you pretty much have to have an idea of what American gladiators is to, I think, fully appreciate it.

Otherwise, you're just watching this skeevy Elvis impersonator, you know, pat himself on the back for a thing that he didn't create. I don't know. I feel like I feel like you'd almost be better off watching let Mateo watch old episodes of American bladders just for the cheese factor because boy, oh boy, there is cheese. He likes to watch the American Ninja Warrior. Wonderful if we'll get something similar eventually for that. I think, I think, I don't see why not. It feels like there wouldn't be an American Ninja Warrior without American Glantyers. It feels like that's all part.

There may not even be Hunger Games without American Gladiors or Redding Man is probably the better, the better example. I wouldn't like that wipeout show. I mean, a lot of the stuff came from Japan. Like, Japan has all kinds of crazy stuff. It created a segment of the culture called Crash TV. and yeah I'm in yeah

Nicole let's fly over to you here got a little clip for you here anything you want to say before I hit play this is on the newly converted Max by the way

how are they using Max and not getting sued by Cinemax HBO owns Cinemax No no no they don't own them hold on them hold on

I thought they were or they were part of the same X is always calling themselves Max and now HBO Max is now called Max. Oh, you're right. I'm sorry, Brian.

You are right. Subsidiary of Warner Brothers, so they're owned by the same people, that's why. Yeah, less than HBO owns Cinemax, but Warner Brothers owns both, yeah. You're totally right. Yeah, that would be it

because they, that way they don't care, but it does make me wonder. I have an app somewhere on my iPad called Max Go, which is Cinamax's version of HBO Go. Rest in peace, HBO. Go. So Cinemax isn't merged into Max?

No, they're content. isn't which is weird right maybe they have plans to say hey let's just collect it all they probably have plans to because they also currently have discovery as a separate app and maybe they want to get everything under one roof I don't know I'd guess that as well yeah when you go into HBO max they say oh you know and have to install max and it's it's a pretty seamless you just click it and it remembers um you have to pick new profiles so I got a chance to make myself brag a lot more Did you? They've a lot more choices for avatars.

I'm Larry David. Oh, nice. That's pretty, pretty good, Brian. It's a pretty good avatar. I'm a little surprised. I'm a little surprised that it made you get it. The apps are almost identical. I don't know why they made you get any way.

It's so weird. They just should have converted the existing app. I don't understand why they did that, but whatever. So this was something that was just kind of cruising along and I was like, huh, I've never heard of this. So I started watching it and, I mean, go ahead and play it. We'll talk about it. All right, here we go.

I got to tell you, I am excited for our dinner. I know. So do you guys want to shower first or? I showered right before the plane. Are you a morning shower or a night shower? I'm a night shower, actually. But this morning, I took a shower in the morning. So you don't shower when you get up in the morning?

I mean, if I have a gig or something to go to, I do. A gig. How long you've been singing? Let me ask you a question. After you empty your body, that's when you put on your day clothes and you enter the world? Well, no, I don't. You don't shower after you. Pooping has no, like, you poop all day long.

No, wait. Take a shower every time you. Do you have a GI problem? You know what, I was thinking about this because you mentioned this the other day. as well, to me, Jason, you're like, well, you don't shower after you poop? I'm like, who showers after they poop? That's, no, no, what kind of damage are you doing in a... No, no, all you need to do is just shower at the top of the day

and make sure your poop precedes that. Yeah, I, yeah. Okay, I mean... So, wake up, have some coffee. But stuff happens. Empty yourself. Literally shit happens. Then, so...

Then shower, dress, and drive to work. Like, I have a 9-to-5 job? Well, wherever you're going, can't you just wake up a couple hours before you're supposed to be there, get your business handled, you know, with your coffee. You never had a situation where you've had to go in the middle of the day? You know who shit's in the middle of the day? People that don't get up in time to take care of the business in the morning.

So you do your business in the morning, and then you take a shower, and you're all good for the whole day. Yeah, and that's it. I don't have so much consume. He doesn't consume any food. Yeah, I don't eat so much food in the middle of the day that I have to create more room by pushing stuff out of it. Okay?

Why don't you just try eating? a little bit less, and you only shit once a day. Oh, my gosh, that's funny. All right. So have you, Brian, do you know what this is? I do only because, obviously, because I had to do set up. No, but I want it. It's on my list to watch because I love Jason Bayton.

Actually, I love all three of these guys. A few people in the chat room, they're like, this sounds like a podcast. You are correct. Yeah. So this is a podcast called SmartList. They, the group comprises of Jason Bateman, Will Arnett, and then, oh, what's his name? Sean Hayes. Sean Hayes.

Sean Hughes. For Will and Grace. Will and Grace, yeah. That's how I know him is from Will and Grace. Yeah. He's the one that took the shower in the morning in the clip. Yeah. Yeah.

He's the heard. So they went on tour. So they started this podcast when. lockdown happened, and it got really popular. The banter between Will Arnett and Jason Bateman, sometimes I don't know if they're joking or if they're like really mad at each other. So I can only do like one episode a day because that is very thick. They're traveling. They're doing a tour. Their first stop is Washington, D.C., then they go on to New York. So you're following, and every episode or every show they have a special guest and um like the first in this episode it just made me laugh so hard

that i sent it to you scott i was like i am crying i'm loving so hard at this do the shows feature what they're doing like the the shows they're doing on tour or um it's just the stuff around the tour it's around the tour and then they actually show some of the episode that they're recording for their podcast not all of it they give them highlights and and you get a kind of a behind the scenes look so like they were thinking well we're not even going to address the audience but it's like no there people are coming to see you to interact with you kind of you know kind of like when you guys go to Vegas right there's these people have taken time to come to you yes it's just a podcast you're right I never even thought about that

oh god so we should be talking to you people we see in Vegas oh my gosh what I'm never going Oh. So, I mean, it's interesting to me because, you know, we've been around since the beginning of podcasting. It was never, it was never celebrities. It started from a very, you know, every man's place. It was dopes like us in the era. Yeah, big nerds. Or the neurodivergence, as you would say. But now it's getting into, what's that? I said, would we? well i mean it takes it takes a special time of a person to grab onto a new piece of technology and really want to explore it and understand it and advance it and not everybody's like that i think to break it to you oh it's true they're not we're cool they're not cool we're all you guys built your own rsss so and i think that's why it feels to some people when celebrities get involved that you know it's now mainstream right yeah it annoys the hell

out of me honestly not not so much that they can do it what what it how it annoys me it depends on who they are and how they behave like a lot of them great it's awesome it's and it makes sense they bring a huge audience with them that was already there so immediate success it's great it's not that it's not that stuff that I resent what I resented the ones that get on there and then after their immediate day one success they talk like they now own the medium or they act like they invented the medium i cannot stand that now when they're not doing that and they're just like acknowledging many of them just acknowledges like yeah i've had a very successful stand-up acting career now i'm doing this podcast and they just sort of acknowledge it

and move on and do cool guests and interviews those are great i enjoy the hell out of that i'm a fan too you would like this i really i mean i really like this podcast all right i'm gonna i just subbed to the to the audio version I'm going to watch the TV one this and that car conversation

just about killed me it was amazing oh my God it gets even and it gets even funnier from there they talk about

that taking pass but the whole point of like this particular capturing of this tour is you're getting

to see a side of Jason Bateman and Will Arnette and you're getting to see an inner circle. So you know how every, like certain directors have like Tarantino. He has the set of actors that he works with. And like you get to see. So have you seen Murderville on Netflix? No. Murderville. No. Okay. So I've watched it. It's hilarious. It's all ad lib. It's all improv.

Will Arnett plays a detective. And then he has guests come in to solve the murder. So it's like, You know, those dinner murder dinner parties. Sure. I just say we've recommended. You have recommended this. I think I did. You totally have, yeah. So I didn't realize how close Will Arnett was to Jason Bateman until I saw this smart list.

And you start to see the inner circle of those actors. And it's actually really kind of neat to get to see behind that and kind of piece it all together. I'm like, oh, that's why Jason Bateman was on. murderville because he's really good friends with Will Arnett and oh why is Conan oh that's why Conan was on it like they're all kind of in the in the same in this inner circle

there's something about Jason Bateman and Will Arnett actually being close after all these years that I really like I really like that idea for all the arrested development you know the the Job and George Michael or whatever was that his name

what's wrong with me? No Sarah was George Michael he was uh... What's wrong with me? me it's his name uh shit marty no uh oh my gosh why can't i think of his name on there he's the central character was it just michael was he just michael michael it's just michael yeah yeah he's just michael um but to know that those that somehow those two spun out and it still hang out i don't know there's something really magical about that i love that that's wonderful yeah and i like that by the way jason batman what i really like about it is him sitting in the back of the car being all snarky

like that. That is so much like his character on the show when he was trying to deal with his weird siblings. He's very similar to his character. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I think that's great. Does his sister show up? Do we get Justine Bateman at all? I didn't. So I'm only, like I said, I can only take about one episode a day and I just started watching it because the snark between Will Arnett and Jason Bateman gets a little rough to watch at times. Yeah. They're New York, was it New York? No, when they went to Boston, they actually have a show that bombed, and it's really rough to watch. Oh, really? Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. So they went D.C. to Boston, then to New York. I'm on the New York episode. I'm finishing up the New York episode. And with the Boston episode,

they did a double, they did two, two recordings. They had, I'll just say it, they had Conan on the, on the, you know, the seven o'clock. And they had the guests that bombed on the nine o'clock and it's a Saturday night so most people at the nine o'clock show they're already drunk right and it's just you're watching it going oh god this is so painful and they realize it's painful so that's that kind of stuff I have to take in doses but I still want to see yeah yeah it's it's a great and it's it's all done in black and white so I don't know if they do that oh I was going to ask because the trailer is uh there's there's color in the trailer but only like weird artistic accents to the road like the road will suddenly have a rainbow on it or something like that but the whole trailer is in black and white so i was i guess that clip i captured

was too so i was going to ask you yeah if it was all that way it must be on purpose i mean they they must mean to do it do not adjust your set there's a funny uh will arnett they go into i don't know which venue they went into they go in they go oh look jason uh all your ozark fans will fit in this room. Now I want to watch Ozark. I've never seen Ozark. Oh, really? Ozark is so good.

So good. Yeah. How did you watch Breaking Bad, right? I didn't. Oh, well, you might, I don't know, it depends. Ozark is like, Ozark is a dark show. How do you feel about shows where

somewhat likable main characters seem to make the worst decisions possible and then try to solve the worst decision possible by making an even worse decision. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I guess that's human nature, right? Not everybody is black and why.

It depends on your, yeah, it depends on your appetite for such things, but it's very good if you like that kind of stuff. It's excellent. I mean, it is an excellent, excellent, excellent show. But, yeah, you're going to be like, oh, my God, why would you do that? I probably will get frustrated with it then because I'm like, I just want to smack you. Yeah. Just be honest.

Just want a big smack. Well, anyway, that's great. Available now on net, sorry, HBO Matt. Max, sorry, Max. Just Max. Just Max, everybody. I got to get used to it. Still throwing me.

Dumbest marketing move in the history of the planet, but here we are. And as an added little bonus, there is a new Magwai. Oh, the animated one. Yeah. The animated Maguire. I need to put that on my list. I heard it was great. We started, we started watching it last night and my son's hooked on it.

it's really good. I've heard nothing but good things about it. I'm so excited. Yeah. I've been heard. Nothing but favorable things from everyone I've talked to. And Carter and I are going to, I think we're going to binge that together when she's feeling better. It's super cute. Yeah. Awesome. All right. I'll move on to mine here. This is a very short clip, but it'll get the point across and I have a little follow up to it as well. But before I play it, I would like to make a non-recommental. I would make, I would like to make a bizarre world recommendal, all right? wherein I want people to stay away from this thing that I'm about to tell you about.

Oblechement. It is garbage, and I want people to know that it's garbage. If you trust my opinion on anything you've heard me talk about on the show before, then do not see the idol. The idol on Max, brand new show on Max is from the Euphoria people. And I think Euphoria, I liked Euphoria. Euphoria is a dark weird trip, but Euphoria at least has some people, some people I can.

Johnny Depp's daughter in it, right? Yeah, but at least Euphoria had people. people I could root for. This show has the most horrible human beings ever. And they're played by people I like. I love Hank Azaria. Hank Azaria plays this aging agent for the idol girl who's played by Depp's daughter. There's a bunch of other actors in here I like. What's his name from Schitt's Creek? Dan Levy. I love him. I love Dan Levy. It's always good. He's in this. A whole bunch of people you know and recognize are in this. Some you don't have never met the weekends in it. In fact, he's sort of titular character in the whole thing.

Everybody sucks. They just suck. The people, as portrayed, I don't mean these actors. I mean, the people they're portraying, they're the most miserable, shitty human beings that I hope in my lifetime I never have to spend more than two seconds with these people. They're horrible. And I don't even know how accurate it is. It's basically like kind of a Britney Spears idea of super-pop. fast rise to stardom major controversy fall down again and now we're trying to rebuild her career

that's the premise okay everybody sucks ass like not a single likable character nobody you can say nobody i like this character i'm gonna follow them but like no no i tried i just i gave it a shot it sucks i'd highly disagree i highly highly recommend against it i think it sucks bad okay all right so there's number one number two a thing i would a thing i would like to recommend and i will I will now play... I will now play a clip from my recommendal. Once negotiations broke down, we were left for little choice. The decision was made for us to insert gas in an effort to coerce those on the inside to come out.

We followed protocol to a T. The Davidians were raining down gunfire on my men. It looked like Christmas out there with bullets hitting our tanks. And my men showed such restraint. Not a single shot was returned from the FBI. now with that being said are there tactics or decisions that you would have made differently okay

now this is the right this is the uh david koresh the sequel the next thing that was zod right yeah that was well no that was uh that was that was shay wiggum talking but but you're right that zod is in it um yeah he says zod and i forgot his real name so this is the waco it's the

so there was a waco thing in 2018 it was a six part series that was excellent I recommended it then. Yeah. Really, really good. And Taylor Kitch was played David Koresh, and he was very good in it. It's weird in this one because the David Koresh, you get in the sequel series, sequel of sorts, I suppose, is a different actor. He's also very good, but it's a prequel kind of when they show him, because this is the aftermath of the Waco mess.

So everything you see in this new one, which is called aftermath, so it's literally the Waco aftermath, meaning like, the investigations, the lawsuits, all the follow-up on what actually happened there. They do flashbacks, and these flashbacks are with a much younger David Koresh when he was known by his real name, and he's played by a different guy, but that guy's really good, too. So it's the only cast change, but it's really hardly noticeable. They're both really creepy as the main dude. Anyway, most of the cast is back, though. So you have Shea Wiggin back as this kind of, you know, pissed off, angry FBI guy that was mostly in charge of the attack on the compound or at least reacting to them getting shot at

in his words who really blew me away though and stole this entire series was this guy david carish was an opportunistic narcissistic piece of shit we're not in the business of defending that is giovanni rabisi oh wow really he's like a shemmy yeah he did a little bit he did a little bit you're not wrong and he he plays this lawyer who's famous I guess like this guy, but he plays this lawyer that repped three or four of the people who escaped or that were let out

and then later had to represent them in court as being part of, you know, they were being charged by the state as being part of the conspiracy that opened up fire on the, on the agents. Anyway, he's so good. He chewed up every scene he was in. Giovanni Rubisi better get a frickin' Emmy

for his time on this series because he's amazing. he's so good i cannot say enough about giovanni revisi i've always liked him he's always been great yeah but something here was next level he made me laugh he was in some ways very heroic in some ways very pathetic like i can't even explain the depth of the character he's so good um anyway it's called aftermath it is the waco sequel series it just came out on hbo or sorry uh uh showtime Showtime, which is where I watched it. And everybody's good in it.

Here's the only thing I would tell people. There's some stuff in here that has been reportedly anyway, not 100% on the historic correctness. Like they take some liberties. The show prior to this, the 2018 lead up to this, also did a little of that. But mostly they held the line. In this one, and I don't even know what the...

How do they do that to make it more interesting to watch? I think so. Some of the stuff like, you know, real life is boring, it turns out. Like I was watching this morning. I watched a fight on a video. There was just a fight that broke out in like a parking lot, two dudes fighting over a parking spot. And they got out of their cars and just had a brawl.

And I realized there was this moment of like, that looks so stupid. It does. People fighting in real life, it looks so dumb. With the exception of UFC and boxing where they're trained and it's like a different things and there's a whole presentation around it real people fighting in real places or even shootings they all look so stupid yeah and kind of amateur because we've been trained to see uh you know to see sensationalized versions of all these exactly and i think that's to answer that question is this this does some of that to make some of the more boring aspects stick out more

have you ever been in a fight oh yeah i'm sure it looked dumb you have yeah i was only i was in junior high It's been a long time. I got in a fight, too. Yeah? When was that? It was when I was in high school. Oh, I was hoping you'd say like, it was so stupid. It was so stupid.

An hour before the show, she got to. Oh, geez. See, that took my way out of every potential fight I ever got it. I never, I've never been in a fight in an actual like. Have I told you guys? The way this fight went was this kid in my art class stole my idea and finished his project before I could finish mine. And I didn't know it until he did. Turned it.

and pretended it was his and he was bigger than me and I got so pissed full of rage I swung at him broke my pinky bone pop popped out of my knuckle yeah bled everywhere I couldn't even feel it though so full of adrenaline and I broke his nose yeah so me and me and my teacher Mr. Winterstrom and this kid marched down to the to the principal's office I was suspended for a week for that and I never frontal lobe wasn't formed yet no I wasn't I wasn't I haven't been in a fight since. No fights since then. It was the first time and last time.

Oh, my God. It was bad. I felt pretty justified at the time. Now I look back and it must have just been so stupid. But that's my point is it's always stupid, right? There's no such thing as a cool looking fight unless they choreograph it. Or unless you're professionals, yeah. Yeah.

So this show does some of that, but it's not around fighting. It's just you make court stuff more dramatic, you know, and stuff like that. But if you're going in for some of the best acting you've seen in a bit, this is real good. Everybody's top of their game. We talk about Shay Wiggum a lot, but I could watch that guy eat a sandwich. I freaking love that guy. He's fantastic. And I keep forgetting the main guy's name.

What is Zod's name? Yeah, it's, uh, what is wrong with me? Hold on. Zod played in the movies. Bye. Shannon. Michael Shannon. Uncle Shannon.

Got it before we looked it up. Got it. Came to my head. Thank you. I can't believe. I forgot that. I love him and everything. And he is very good in this.

And his character's so relatable. He's just awesome. So anyway, big fat thumbs up for me for Aftermath. If you like that sort of dramatization of real life event stuff, if that is an interesting to you, maybe skip it. But I really liked it. Again, that's on Showtime. And it's called Aftermath.

All right. Brian's going to put all these up on QuickTMS. dot l i am indeed fact they're probably oh not quite they'll be up there shortly so watch for those if you did not keep track so that you don't have to go to shit out of luck dot com we don't want you doing that is the real website they registered it yeah but you got to make sure you spell it right it's a shit oh utta out of luck dot com yeah and there's not out it was oh tutta it is but let's not let's not make fun of the fletcher's for their

spelling yeah we don't want to you know christine look we she's a she's a vocal therapist for children I'm not saying that that's weird and it's not a real word so we can't you know if I gotta give her credit that she knows how to spell real words she doesn't know how to speak spell fake words that's right and also this is really just a trick to make sure she's still listening so that we can hear back from her that's really all we're saying exactly oh I love getting the angry recordings from Christine it's one of my favorite thing I love it anyway uh that'll do it for us Nicole, anything you want to promote or? I really enjoyed talking to you guys today.

Oh, we enjoy talking to you. We enjoy it too. Yeah, and everyone check out Wood Whisperer. Nicole does a lot of stuff with Mark on that. And if you haven't checked out his channel lately, you should. Amazing, amazing work, as always. He just finished a beautiful sideboard for me for the dining room. We haven't posted the videos about it yet.

But he heard of here first. He made a cyborg for the side of her. A sideboard. Sideboard seven of nine. I can't wait. He loves seven of nine, by the way. Oh, he does? Who doesn't?

Come on. It's a big Jerry Ryan fan. That's awesome. Yeah. Can't remember Michael Shannon, but pulled Jerry Ryan right out of my bed. Just tumbled right out. Yeah, no problem.

All right. Nicole, have a great week. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye now. All right. And officially published.

Oh, very nice. Check it out, quick dns. Oh, except that Nicole's on there twice. Oops. Oops. Let's fix that. Twice is nice. Oh, it's going to Netflix.

Why is it going to Netflix? Damn. Oh, who's running this chicken shit outfit? Who's running this show? All right. One final note here. A final thought from a listener. I'm going to now read this final thought.

This is from Gene. And he texted this. He says, Dear Scott and Brian. If you're going to talk about the best comic book movies of all time, we were talking about Spiderverse and all that. Yep. uh watchman has to be mentioned i feel like it should be in the top five at the worst jean i don't know man i like watchman i like it yeah but it's not in my top five it's not in mine either and

it's it's unfortunate because um and i think it's because they tried to adapt the comic book and they chose not to adapt the best parts of the of the story or the parts that they were chicken of like pre in a pre true mc u world which was this 2009 that movie came out and a year after iron but we hadn't really experienced Infinity Gontlets and Thanos and some out there concepts, guardians, for example. Yeah.

They should have stuck to that original story and not been afraid of it. Exactly. Yep. Had they done that? They could have, I think that could stand. That could be one of the best ever.

For sure. Yeah, and I think it's also dwarfed by the amazing HBO miniseries. Oh, yeah, that was so good. I would definitely support that television-wise, television series-wise, The Watchman HBO series is easily up there in the top 10. Maybe not the top five, but the top 10.

Yeah, same. I would agree that. I'd say the Boys is up there. I'd say the Hawkeye Disney Plus series. Wanda Vision. Yeah, also good. There's a bunch of belong in there. But, you know, Watchman is this hallowed.

The creepy sex scene with Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah playing in the background. I'm sorry, man. But, hey, I love that you like it and I support your living of that film. And I like it a lot. I just don't love it top five. Yeah. And also the book's amazing. And if you haven't read it, you should.

Oh, the comic is, yeah, without equal. It's almost like the Bible of comics. It's so good. All right. Well done, Gene. Let's get out of here now. Oh, 801.47.1062 is where he sent that. Let's tell people that they need to support us over at patreon.com slash TMS.

And if they don't, well, who knows what happens. What does the future even look like without a morning stream? We didn't come in here like professional comedians with a giant following already. We had to build it from scratch. Gosh, dang it's right. Exactly. No Jason Bateman in our back pocket. Nope.

Or backseat. Yeah. So if you want to give us some of that scratch we need, it's over there at patreon.com slash TMS. Go find out why today. That'll do it for us. Brian, let's play music. What do you have to play? Okay.

Let's go out to, I'm dipping into the May request that didn't make it in because we're, We've only got a few June requests, but that's okay, because it means I can get some May requests in here. Andreas from Denmark rode in and said, hey, Scott and Brian, as I'm celebrating 40 times of traveling around our day star, I was hoping. There you go. That's what I want you to do. I want you to throw me off when I'm reading this, like, because I will keep going until I hear, let's party. 40 times of traveling around our day star, I was hoping the Adomitable Covermaster would help me. making the day special by playing a cover on my birthday or thereabouts.

I've been listening since before the poo bag lady and would love to hear a rock and cover of or buy some late 90s like placebo, garbage, or skunk anansi, anansi. I was pronounced it skunk on a sazi, but looking at how it's spelled, it's not skunk on a sazi. It's not like skunk anance. Anancy, kind of like Anansi boys by Neil, Neil Gaiman. Yeah, I love that book. I don't know. I always thought it was Anasazi as well.

So you've... I thought so, too, unless maybe he misspelled it. Could be. But listen, his English is way better than my Danish. Keep up the great work and maybe test the ship's phasers once or twice. Love the show, though. Andreas. Oh, we got a saver.

Phasers. Hold on. I got it right here. Here it is. Let's do that phaser one here. Let's test the ship's phasers. There you go. There you go.

And the people are confirming. It is skunk an Anansi. Anansi. And Nancy, or Nancy, yeah. All right. I had no idea. Or skung and Nancy, as Lucky Phil puts. Very unlucky today.

That's a whole different thing that needs to be corrected now. All right, well, he said placebo. Placebo, one of my favorite 90s Britpop groups. I was big in, I'm still big into the Brit Pop. One of the playlist that I go to all the time is the I miss Brit Pop playlist on Apple Music. You just search, just say. You'll say, hey, S-I-R-I, play the I-Miss Brit Pop playlist on Apple Music, and you will be transported to a time when Pulp and Oasis and Blur and Feeder and ran the airwaves,

at least the ones in the UK anyway. Placebo is great. On their Sleeping with Ghost album from 2003, they had a bonus disc that was mostly covers and include this one right here. Listen, if you're not singing this song from Stranger Things, then by golly, you're going to love this. Here is Kate Bush's Running Up That Hill by Placebo. It doesn't hurt me. You want to feel how it feels.

You want to know, know that it doesn't hurt me. You want to hear about the deal I'm making. You You and me And if I only could Make a deal with God And get them to swap our places Be running up that road

Be running up that hill Be running up that building if I only could You don't want to hurt You don't want to hurt me But see how deep the bullet lies Unaware that I'm tearing you asunder And there's a thunder in our hearts,

Baby So much hate for the ones we love Tell me we both matter Don't we You You and me You and me Won't be unhappy

If I only could Make a deal with God Get them to swap our places Be running up that road Be running up that head Be running up that building If I only could Come on, baby, come on, come on, darling.

Let me steal this moment from you now. Come on, angel. Come on, come on, darling. Syrians Ooh If I only could Make a deal with God Get them to swap our places

Be running up that broke Be running up that With no problem And if I only could Make a deal with God Get them to swap our places Be running up that road Be running up that hill

With no problem Phone could be run out of bed hill. Phone call. Be run a bed hill. Founds good. Be run a bed hill. Founds good. Be running a bad hell.

Founds good. Be ran a bad hell. If you like what you just heard of the show you're on the network network. Get more at the com. Call next month for a new message.