The Morning Stream - TMS 2480: Oops, All Barbs

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS. Mmm. Forced sausage. Riboflavin. Calcium. Vitamin C. The sound of diced tomato. Me.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Hallmark replacement therapy. I'm ready to talk about balls. Across the spoiler verse. Rusty dognails. You get all the shots. Clarification. Flip flop it forward. Mad Miles Spider Road.
Starting point is 00:00:26 All Barbie. All the time. Florida feline. What the frick am I watching? Letting your sponge fly across the room with Amy. Pour-renting with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Tint, color, brightness, volume, fine-tuning, channel selection, on off. Abandando.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Abundando. The morning stream. We're not toys. We're action figures. Greetings and welcome and welcome back to TMS. Got two welcomes in there. It is TMS or the morning stream if we prefer for Thursday, January. Sorry, June 15th, 2023. I looked at the J. My brain went, hey, let's just call January. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do that. Sure. It's the aides of June, man. It's June Ids.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Oh, my gosh, it is. How is it the 15th? Gosh, dang it, dude. Weren't we just in Vegas like five seconds ago? What is this? It feels like it, dude. It really does. It feels like we were in Vegas, and then we were in, and then I was at a family union, and then Vegas and then.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I mean, I guess this is just how it's going to go from now on, you know? Yeah, exactly. That's right. I guess I'm getting ready for my third Vegas trip of the year tonight. Yeah. Is that a record? What's your record? No, my record, I think, I think four is my record.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So I'm going to tie my record this year with the, um, going to go to Vegas with the D&D group. We're going to roll some dice. We're going to go to a craps table and be like, oh, my botched. Oh, no. Plus 20 to. You whiffed that roll, you'll say. That's cool, though. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I'm jealous of that trip. That sounds like that'll be fun. And you guys are going, when is that? Close enough. You could, you could, we haven't really said today. we're thinking September. Waiting for the kids to be back in school, waiting for, you know, really all depends on Barry and Tristan and Tanner and Alex and when they can all make it out there.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah, Barry's very busy. He's like a hot shot at some biotech company, you know. He is. He's like bi-coastal, well, mid-country coastal. Coastal mid-country. He's in San Francisco and Chicago people. He's in both places. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:57 That dude is in a plane more than I'm on, that I'm awake. I feel like. That guy flies over me more than something that flies over me. I can't think of something that flies over you. Let's think. Flies. Flies? Okay, so actual house flies fly over you.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Actual house flies. What else? What else? Other insects, maybe? Right, well, yes, sure. Birds. Birds do. Drones.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, I got my neighbor over here, keeps flying his drone over my backyard. Secret Chinese. balloons, the spy balloons. Yep, secret Chinese balloons. Oh, there we go. Jokes. Ah, here we go. Barry flies over me more than Diablo four jokes. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. Barry goes over my head more than Golden Girls references. Ah, there we go. Nailed it. Nailed it. Nicely done. All right, well, we're going to kick this. That's how you workshop a joke, folks. That's right. Did you see that process, you guys? Did you see that sausage getting forced into that casing?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, watch, write it down. Remember what you saw here today. All right, we're going to kick things off with some calls because for some reason you guys are just flowing with the calls. Sure. I like hearing from our people more than, you know, more than hearing AI versions of hearing from our people. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I like real people, you know? Yeah. Real people are great. Like this one, more about the eyeballs thing. It's about the, we were talking about the owl, you know, with the long eyeballs. And this was, well, it's a familiar voice. Now, we've heard from him a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Here he is again. Hello, Scroat and Ball. This is Mike from Tampa. This is for the morning stream. I have called in so far and talked about bugs, bulletproof coffee, and I'm ready to talk about Ball. No, the eyeball thing with the reindeer. I googled that, you know, went to the Google machine. Real quick, he said with the reindeer, I think he meant the owl.
Starting point is 00:04:54 We didn't talk about reindeer? No, no, no, we talked about reindeer how their whole eye turns blue. in the, this was in your fun facts about animals quiz. Right. Their whole eyeball turns blue in the winter so they can see better or something. Yeah, and they were orange in the summer
Starting point is 00:05:10 or more kind of yellowish orange in the different kind of light. You're right. Gold, yeah, gold in the summer. Well, Tampa, I was wrong. Hot, deer summer. Yeah, hot, hot deer summer. The thing that popped up,
Starting point is 00:05:21 and the first picture that you see is two dissected reindeer eyeballs that kind of look like other kinds of balls. but they're like the blue in one and then the uh the golden yellow in the other uh i don't know it was weird um i did do a podcast uh i got i did one for four years and i'm not leaving this this is bad i'm abort he thinks he's aborting the abort button he thinks that he can cancel he thinks he can undo that call no you can't jeez i wonder why your podcast didn't continue i'm just
Starting point is 00:05:57 kidding i'm so kidding dude learn how to edit no he uh when you guys send in something and it goes wrong you can guarantee i'm gonna play it's even better listen if you have to listen to us go off the rails we get the pleasure of listening to you go off the rails 100% all right well that was one thing um and it's interesting that the two he saw that were dissected one was the yellowish orange and the other blue yeah yeah that he had both varieties do you think you could um have those at the same time do you think that deer could like some How, I don't know. Oh, like a little mutant deer.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. Watch this. No, no, I think that they can't control it like that. I'm guessing they probably didn't even come from the same deer. I'm guessing that they killed the deer in the winter and killed a deer in the summer and said, all right, now we've got two pairs of eyeballs that the kids can use. Speaking of the deer, that sacred deer movie, killing of the sacred deer? Oh, killing of a sacred deer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:53 What the freak am I watching? I'm only halfway through, but what is, what the hell is that? like you're watching those uh wow i started it last night because i couldn't sleep okay that was a mistake that kind of movie you don't want to start yeah it's a good choice of a uh uh good thing to help you get back to sleep and i had seen prior prior i'd seen that lobster one because that was a nicole recommendal and i don't think i've watched it yeah it's the same so same director as your is your lobster's lobster thing yeah and it's very similar in terms of it's sort of like uncomfortable nature like what is even going on here but what's crazy is the two main characters
Starting point is 00:07:27 With the exception of Cole Kidman, speaking on Nicole Kidman, we were talking about her earlier. Or maybe I was talking to Kim. Yeah, I was going to say, I wasn't talking about it. I think I was talking to Kim. We were talking about something she's watching. But anyway, she's in it, but she's not really a main character. It's Colin Farrell.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And then the squirly dude from Innesheron, the kind of nerdy weirdo that's going to look around. Barry Keegan. That guy. Barry Keoggan. He's in this in a very strange role. And they're kind of your two people. It's a weird one, Brian. I like that kid.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I like him too. He's fascinating to watch. Yeah. Yeah, I might have to watch it. What's it on Hulu? Where was I watching this? Hulu or Netflix is the only two places I've been in the last day. So I think it was one of those two.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Can't remember. Just watch will be our best friend there. Yeah, I'll look it up. It's very good, though. I mean, very good in that weird way. If you want more of that lobster business, that's what they're serving up here. So does Nicole Kidman at any point walk around an empty movie theater and say, come back to movies
Starting point is 00:08:27 because we need theaters need your money and by the way you're seeing this in a theater who you gave money to watch a movie in front of isn't that weird like I don't mind that they want to push the business because that makes sense to me but to do it to the people that are already there yeah right this should be a like a Hulu pre-roll ad or something because if you're already in the theater
Starting point is 00:08:47 you're already in you don't need to be told this this is like me trying to tell people to listen to TMS who are here listening to TMS. It is one of the the things I don't miss about not going to AMC movies anymore. I think I told you that because of my
Starting point is 00:09:04 emails to Alamo Draft House, they changed their seven-day policy for season pass holders to... We did talk about it. Yeah, now you can book any movie anytime. So, you're welcome, everybody. Which is awesome. Brian literally changed the policy so that all may benefit. Change the policy. Because I
Starting point is 00:09:20 emailed my local Alamo Draft House manager, the Westminster Theater Manager, and then corporate. Because they both sent me email saying, we'd love your feedback on the season pass program. And I said, I love it except for this one bit. For this one thing. Yeah. And then they fixed it.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And then they fixed it like a couple weeks after my emails. They probably just said, oh, yeah, all right, this goes right. Change it. It's not a hard thing. All right, I flick to switch, changed. Yeah. It's not going to hurt them to do it that way, right? No, not even a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Because Alamo Draft House also gives you these things that if you pre-order a movie early, pre-ter your tickets early, you get access to goodies. For example, for Spider-Verse, I could have, I think, gotten a lunchbox or a glass or something. But once those sell out, and those things sell out 30 days in advance, you can't get them. And you can only get them when you pre-ter your tickets. If you can only pre-der your tickets seven days
Starting point is 00:10:17 before the movie, you're never going to see those things. Oh, man. They were here. I would do this. Everything you've described about this plan sounds great. So cool. They have Indiana Jones glasses that look like the old, like, Arby's glasses, except they're like pint glasses and stuff. Oh, they're really cool. Are they doing, uh, oh, they, I like their kids camp thing, too.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That's cool. Yeah, yeah, with all the cool movies and stuff. Yeah. Alamo draft house is cool. Oh, look at the lunchbox for Asteroid City. Holy shit. Yes, that's the one. That's the lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:10:47 That was Asteroid City. And it comes, like, they describe this thing just like a Wes Anderson commercials. Like, lunchbox, thermos. da-da-da-da-nap yeah yeah it's right next to some fries casso bacon uh also which looks really good yeah i'm excited to see that i'm excited to see uh oppenheimer i'm excited to see oh i can't believe i'm saying this i'm excited to see the barbie movie i am too i'm legit excited i don't i like greta gerwig's movies and i think she has a really interesting like take i think it'll be subversive and not what people think i think it's going to be great for sure
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm legit excited about that. I'm seeing it with my aunt Barb who's everything Barbie. Oh, like her. Like Lifetime Collector kind of deal? She has, so at Christmas, they have their regular Christmas tree. George has his action figure Star Wars, like whatever, every thing he gets at the Hallmark store that comes in a Star Wars box and costs 2495 tree. Yeah. And then she's got a Barbie tree.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And it's all, it's pink and it's all Barbie ornaments. I'll Barbie all the time. Wow. All Barbie all the time. I guess I've never talked about, said that about Aunt Barb. Is it because, do you think as a kid, her name was like so close and it just felt like she had a kinship with the brand and all that? Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Okay. I think for sure. That's why. I told you that at the family reunion, we took that photo at the end and. She's not in it. And she's not in it. So I did what I said I was going to do. I replaced everybody's face with a different picture of Aunt Barb.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah. What was the reaction? like have they uh she she loved it i can send it to you actually please do i'm putting it in our i'm putting it in our discord it's called oops all barb oops all barb i mean she asked for it she said can you photoshop me in there she says yep and so you said sure oh yeah this is sure so there you look at us you guys this is great who is she normally in the rear can we see where she's supposed to be she is behind so my mom is is the
Starting point is 00:12:53 shortest one in the photo in the front with the plaid she is directly behind her and I don't even know if you can see like the top of the
Starting point is 00:13:04 now I think I blocked the top of the cap with the barbhead yeah with the barb head yeah but you could see you could just see the top of her hat
Starting point is 00:13:12 this is great this freaking great what a great idea I'm glad you did it I love that all right nicely done one more call here before we get to
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. It's about that toothpaste heist, and, well, I got somebody with some thoughts. Here you go. Hey, Sincidine and Brush, calling about TMS, episode 2474. This is Russell from Illinois. You guys were talking about the toothpaste heist where the guy got caught, stealing a bunch of toothpaste, and you were trying to come up with a pun that the news article could have used for the word floss.
Starting point is 00:13:44 The first thing that popped in my mind was philosopher. Philosophers arrived on the scene, and there was toothpaste everywhere. Anyways, love the show, though. Yeah, that doesn't work in a pinch. Philosopher, I get it. Philosopher, sure. I see what he did. I'm philosopher Jenkins.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, it's good to know. At first was thinking he was talking about Lucifer, but he's talking about how to play on officer. Officer or, you know, philosopher. Yeah. And, you know, philosopher. Yeah, so I guess, you know, dad jokes are alive and well. It's like Plato is a philosopher.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Sure. That's my understanding of Plato's good, hard work. That he's a philosopher. for all right that was all dumb let's do this let's get uh let's get red fraggle in here yeah let's read some shit you know uh find out what's hot in the in the in the world of books what can we read are there things we can read i'm tired of reading ingredients on cereal boxes that's what i'm thinking oh that's quiet let's fix that audio one of the things that i enjoy also is reading It's from an old 80s dating profile, by the way, that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:53 From Matthew McCormehoe? No, it's some dude. It's just some guy. He sounds like him, though, doesn't he? He's a little bit, yeah. Yeah, but he's just this guy that likes reading, wants the girl to know. Well, let's let this girl know we like reading also. Amy, welcome back to the show.
Starting point is 00:15:07 How the heck are you? Oh, hello. I'm disappointed, man. I have a box of cereal for you guys to read today. Oh, good. He says he's tired of listening. tired of reading that man do you have a do you have a box of cereal ingredients audiobook because i'd much rather listen while i'm on the road yeah yes it's it's narrated by
Starting point is 00:15:25 morgan freeman perfect oh fantastic um ribo flavon artificial die number five crawls through a river of intestines i would listen to that that's a book i would listen to sure why not that guy he gets he gets used a lot for a lot of these deep fakes for some reason they'd like to use him and um there's this video of him where he's it's it's supposed to be him it doesn't even remotely look like him it's clearly cg it doesn't look right his voice is kind of off but close and he says i may look like the real gordon freeman but i'm not really him really you're not really him don't say i like i don't call him gordon freeman did you did i call him gordon freeman holy shit called him gordon freeman like from uh we're the half life yeah
Starting point is 00:16:12 Half-Life, Gordon Freeman. A silent protagonist. Gordon's Freeman. Anyway. Andy Dufrain crawled through a river of shit, a mile of shit, and came out with a face plant thingy on the other side, whatever that thing was called. What were those called?
Starting point is 00:16:28 A facehuggers. Like a turkey. It's stuck on his head on the other side. That's how it looked to me, he'd say. Hey, Amy, let's get it. So you brought a book idea for us. I did. I did bring a book.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I want to introduce this book by telling a bit of a story about the worst day I've ever had. Oh, my God. But don't worry. It's good. It's okay. The story's going to be fine. I promise. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So I'm going to get too mired down in, you know, what was going on, the details of what was going on that day because it doesn't really matter. What matters is my family and I were having that, you know, just terrible trash. tragedy happened. And we were all, it was, it was raining. And I was wearing sneakers. And, you know, there's like nothing to make a bad day worse, like having wet socks. And, uh, and we're all just sitting around. It didn't feel right for us to leave. But we also, there was nothing we could do. So we're all just kind of sitting there. And this man, I've never met before my entire life, just happened to be coming by, wanted to help us. And, and, And so he came up and he said, is there anything at all I can do for any of you? And I was just like, honestly, if somebody could just bring me a pair of flip flops, like, so that my feet don't have to be wet. Like, I, you know, I mean, I felt so stupid even asking for it. But I was like, that would just be this man got in his truck, drove across the, across the highway to the Walmart, bought me a pair of fliplops. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:11 and brought them back to me. I still, I have no idea what this man's name is. Couldn't take him out of the lineup. Have no idea, have no idea who he was. But he made that horrible, horrible day so much better.
Starting point is 00:18:27 They're called shoe angels, by the way. Shoe angels. Right? I'm like, I still have those flip-slops, you know, so,
Starting point is 00:18:33 yeah. So you never know what small thing that you can do. do for somebody is going to have an impact on a whole bunch of events later on. And that's, aside from this book being kind of a fluffy teen romance, which it is, my daughter said, Mom, you have to read this. And, you know, when your kid tells you you have to read something, you have to read it. And so aside from that, I feel like the larger theme of this book is sort of like the small
Starting point is 00:19:09 things that you would never guess would be connected. So the clip that I have is actually from the movie adaptation of this book that came out. And just to set it up for you a little bit, it's a Korean guy and a black girl who are in his family's shop and his older brother shows up to give them a hard time. Okay. So now we can play the clip. All right. There's your setup. Here we go. This is my older brother, Charlie. This is my friend. Natasha. Friend, oh. I thought maybe he's caught a shoplifter.
Starting point is 00:19:44 What did you just say? Hey, we gotta hire those in a store like this, right? I'm sure you understand. What the hell is your problem? What? What? Oh, tough guy in a suit now, huh? Let's go.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Let's go. Charlie got you to put in a suit. Hey, want me to translate for your friend, Danny? Hi, Mr. Bay. Mr. Bay. Mr. Bay, I'm Natasha. You're a friend of D'Angus. Would you like something before you leave?
Starting point is 00:20:15 For free? Not this, I'll. Come with me. Relaxer for your hair. Make your hair not so big. Thank you, Mr. Bay, but I like my hair big. Oh, if you're like big, you should get yourself a man. Because little Danny here. Yeah, because my dick is an inch long, still twice as big as yours.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I gotta go. Come on here. Do you know, it could not. have gone any worse. What a combo. I mean, maybe I should have gotten the relaxer just to make a wife more. I'm glad you find this funny. Dude, tragedy is funny.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Sometimes you've got to laugh to keep from crying. Are we even tragedy? That's what life is. I have no idea what this is. I don't either. Yeah. This, yeah, this is, the sun is also a star. And the book is, hold on, I'm usually really good about this and have everything up.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And now my screen just went kaput. It's also scientifically correct. The sun is also a star. It's true. And the subject of a, they might be giant song. Oh, is it? Yes. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Which one? Which song? Is it? The sun is a mass of incandescent gas? Yeah, there it is. My brain. Yeah. So the sun is also a star by Nicola Yun.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And it's, It's really good. It's, as I say, it's, it's a fluffy kind of teen romancy story. And I think I read the book and I found the book very engaging because I think the book probably gets more down into the details of the ancillary characters and shows you kind of the tiny little small ripple effects that go on and the coincidences that happen that. force people together that, you know, make it feel like it gets faded and meant to be. But, you know, it's, I don't know, I found it, I found it really interesting. And it really wraps everything up in a nice little bow. You know, this might be, Scott, this might be a good alternative for Kim, you know, during, during non-hallmark season.
Starting point is 00:22:28 You know, like her homework replacement, her hallmark pacifier. Yeah. Yeah. Like, she, she would, she would like the film probably. But, yeah, I mean, I really enjoyed reading the book. I was very, I was very engaged with it. I thought it was very, very cool. And I like that little scene just because it is as mortifying for the guy as possible, right?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Like his dad and his brother both completely racist and be, you know, just being assholes. And he's like just trying to maintain, you know, and it's just, it just goes terribly. And she just laughs. So, you know, it's great. But the, you know, the basic setup is that she is there, she's in the country illegally because her family immigrated there when she was a kid and they're getting deported tomorrow. And so as happenstance would meet it, they, you know, she meets this boy and they have
Starting point is 00:23:31 a day in New York. It kind of felt, I think because of New York being kind of a character in it, it feels a little bit like uh like nick and nora um oh i love that movie yeah right you know it's it's kind of you're right though you're right the city is like um i know it's true of a lot of movies i guess but in nick and nora's infinite playlist the the city becomes like a crucial a third character yeah yeah oh yeah for sure yeah i love that and this is this is one of those kind of stories where it's you know it's vital to the the plot of the story that you know they're in New York and everything.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And, yeah, I mean, it didn't get a great. It was like a 50-something on Rotten Tomatoes. It didn't get a great reception at the box office or anything. But, you know, like I say, I enjoyed the book. I didn't even know it was a movie when I started reading it because my daughter just said, Mom, you got to read this book. So, you know, it's funny. I saw the cover of it at first.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Her chat, I'll pull it up again. she uh the girl on the cover that's playing your main uh female lady there i'm not saying that right um she looked just like rosario dawson to me when i first glanced at her but that's not her but at first it looked like a little bit like when she's younger yeah i mean not that rosario dawson still looks amazing yeah but yeah like she's got her vibe for sure it's weird yeah um all right well sounds interesting i uh but do you think the book is uh like what's what's better do you think like everyone always says books are better than the movies should i read the book or should i you know watch this and call it good so so full disclosure i haven't actually seen the entirety
Starting point is 00:25:12 of the movie but based on i don't want to give too much away but i did i did look at the cast list to check to see if a certain ancillary character showed up and she doesn't and i so i feel i feel like that I feel like the book is going to be much better in that regard because like I say I you know the romance is fun and everything um but to me the book just felt more complete about hey all of these little characters that are orbiting around these two these two kids who are falling in love they are actually full characters as well and you know you only you're You don't have to spend too much time on them, but you get a full picture of the fact that, nope, these actually are full people as well. And so anyway, yeah, like I say, without giving too much away about it, there was those one key character who seemed like a, you know, just kind of a throwaway chick in the bucket, who actually wraps everything up really nicely. And, you know, I feel like that's missing probably from the film based on the IMDB. sure so you know it sounds great though but yeah it was cool and the way it's written the way it's written is it changes perspective a lot so uh one chapter you're you know you're getting a first
Starting point is 00:26:45 person from daniel and the next chapter you're getting a first person from natasha and then the next chapter you might be getting like a third person omniscient talking about a security guard or you know the elevator operator or whatever or each of those done in the first person or a third person like no yeah the the omniscient ones are yeah those are those are in third person sure um so yeah so you get like a third person omniscient every once in a while but then and then it flip-flops between that and either natasha or or daniel and um the audio book also like they have different actors reading the different chapters so they they really like drive that home like nope this is from her
Starting point is 00:27:33 perspective this is from his perspective this is from everyone's perspective you know sure um here we got a little taste of it let me see what it sounds like here hold on my mom says it's time for me to give up now oh that's a geez mom thanks mom
Starting point is 00:27:49 yeah yeah and that was that was like that was kind of why I decided to that's usually where I get the clips that I use uh to send for this is from the sample from from audible but yeah i was like i didn't really feel like it gave as much of because it's all the sample is only long enough for it to just all be natasha first of all
Starting point is 00:28:14 yeah and secondly it just was like wow you're just really starting off on a real bummer of a note here right yeah those first few words like all right well set the stage there yeah she does do a lovely jamaican accent though because her family is from Jamaica so the the uh the narrator for Natasha's part does does a lovely Jamaican I love Jamaican accents they make me want to go get jerk chicken and hang out and weed bars right I just love it put my feet up and sip a fruity drink somewhere right exactly yeah love it something comforting about it yeah yeah man or it makes me want to play World of Warcraft and roll a troll again there you go yeah how you do
Starting point is 00:29:01 and ma those guys anyway that's fantastic go check it out everybody it is the sun is also a star which is also true uh even if he spelled it s o and that would be true of i don't know um who's a who's son that's as popular as their as their parent uh michael douglas oh there you go kirk douglas michael douglas the son is also a star there you go nailed it um anyway that's available on an audible of course kindle and hardcover and paperback and the film is also a thing. Is that streaming? Do we know? Maybe it is. I think you can get it streaming on Amazon Prime, but you may have to pay for it. I'm not sure. Okay. Oh yeah. It looks like it's not streaming for free, but you can rent it. Apple as well. All right, nice. I love getting
Starting point is 00:29:47 this stuff from you, as always. Also, I love that story about the flip-flops. That was super awesome. Also having some knowledge of the tragedy in question. That's a really, really nice gesture. And I always look forward to having you on. We'll see you next week. Have a fantastic one. Thanks. Check out my pottery stream. Oh, yeah, check out her pottery stream. We got a thing to promote every week now. We got to do this. So Red Fraggle 3 on YouTube, she's putting up pottery stuff, done a couple live streams, throwing wheels or now, how do you say it? Throwing clay on the wheel. You know, all the technical terms. It's all very cool. And you should check it out today. That's up on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:30:23 You do the YouTube.com slash at Redfraggle 3 for some reason. The at is there. I don't know why they do that, but it's there. Yeah, I don't. I don't either. Mine doesn't have that, so I don't know why it's on some and not others. I don't get it. It's strange. Mine's just slash Scott Johnson. It was weird. I think maybe because I'm late to that party or something.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, we did a live stream the other day. Had a few people in the chat hang out with me. It's fun. So, yeah, come watch me make a mess. It was hilarious. My sponge flew across the room.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Sweet. And, you know, like the clay fell apart on me. It was great. Hilarity ensued. That's awesome. Well, good luck with that. Continued work on that because I think that's awesome. and we'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Boy, you don't want your sponge to fly across the room, but primarily if it's your main source of birth control. Controception? Yeah. Yeah. You don't want that to happen. Yeah. That'd be bad.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Okay. We did it. We did it. We did it. Let's get into some news. It's today's news, and it's brought to you by... Brought to you by Coverville today, celebrating the 75th birthday of...
Starting point is 00:31:30 singer but more and songwriter but producer extraordinaire Todd Rundgren. Yeah you know his songs like I don't want to work I just want to bang on the drum all day and and can we still be friends and hello it's me and what's another one? Yeah let's get with those three
Starting point is 00:31:48 but did you know he's also a massive producer and has produced stuff for like that monumental meatloaf album with Paradise by the dashboard light I'm an adult now by The Pursuit of Happiness Dancing Barefoot by Patty Smith
Starting point is 00:32:06 Love My Way by the Psychedelic Furs Produced by Talking What a wide range of sound It really is, yeah Cheap trick he's produced He's been all over the place So, oh yeah, I saw the light That's another one of his
Starting point is 00:32:21 Goodson I saw the light In your eyes I saw the light And it opened up my mind I saw the light. That's the one. Oh, that's the ace of bass. Oh, that's a shame that I got that one. Oh, yeah, co-wrote, we're American band for Grand Funk Railroad.
Starting point is 00:32:37 My gosh. Produced that whole album. Does he just do, every genre lines up to Todd Runger in and says, make me? Kind of, yeah. Wow. That's wild to me. All right. Well, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I'm looking forward to that. That would be 1 p.m. today. Yeah, that'll be 1 p.m. Twitch.tv slash Coverville. I'll be playing a move deck for Spiderverse because there's a lot of Spiderverse cards. that like move, like the, the function of move in Marvel Snap. So I'll be playing some Marvel Snaps and move deck and, yeah, be there. 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.tv.combe, speaking of Spiderverse, I heard something that blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Across the Spiderverse, the new film, the one that's in there now, that's blown everybody's minds. And I loved it. They apparently, somebody was saying, one of the animators or somebody there working on this, said it took them four years, almost to the day, to create the, chase scene and it's in the trailer so there's not a spoiler but all the spider people coming you know where they're all running yes apparently that took four freaking years in the trailer claire settle down it's in the trailer claire it's fine but when they did that it was it was because the you know the movies are famous for saying well this character's got a slightly different
Starting point is 00:33:49 animation frame rate or this over here's got a different style to make that work with that many back there four years on that sequence that's amazing that's that's that Mostly amazing. Yeah, which is no, it's no shock to me. The third one's delayed a little bit, you know. Yeah. This seems like these movies are a serious undertaking. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'm guessing the most of it's done, though. It's probably, you know, they're doing probably finishing work on a lot of it. Yeah, somebody the other day said they just hadn't done voices yet, but that makes no sense to me. You do voices first. Oh, yeah. You do voices first, and then you match the movements to the voice. Yeah, you don't do it after the fact. So I don't know why that's the rumor.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Claire, go to the cinema and see it. I'll wave. Wave frantically, so Claire comes back. We didn't spoil anything, Claire. There's nothing spoiled. And second of all, go see this in the theater. This is a reason to go to the theaters. And because we're not going to keep quiet about this movie for the next three months until it shows up on streaming.
Starting point is 00:34:47 No. Okay. No. I cannot name. How many years has it been since 2015? I cannot name another movie that has impressed me as much as Fury Road did than across the Spider-Verse. And by the way...
Starting point is 00:34:58 He set the counter, everybody. By the way, the thing she was saying about how the city is a character who we were just talking about New York and stuff, I realized, as she's saying that, all of my favorite movies have that aspect to it. In the case of...
Starting point is 00:35:14 The world building. Yeah. So in the case of Fury Road, it's the wastelands, and it's a very important character in the film. The same thing goes for the New York they show in Spider-Ver A few of the different
Starting point is 00:35:27 The arts they show have a different Or characters Yeah they're crucial to the thing working You know And I think that's true of like Even like Empire Strikes Back has a number of these India that you see Oh it's so good
Starting point is 00:35:41 Damn it I gotta go I gotta go again She's screaming again It's like It's not a spoiler Claire This is all in the trailer Trailer stuff is not spoiler stuff All right
Starting point is 00:35:52 Just go see the damn thing Slow ass Irish Parasite where the house becomes a character. Oh, shit. Yeah. Well, now that you tell me that, I'm finally. Oh, now you're finally, yeah. It's happening now.
Starting point is 00:36:05 All right, here's our story, an elusive cat. They're all kind of elusive, but this one in particular is terrorizing a Florida neighborhood has sent two injured people to an emergency room already, and they still haven't caught this cat. That's gnarly, right? That cat's a shit head, man. Yeah, dick move, cat. Dick move. A cat roaming the streets of a Florida neighborhood is terrorizing residents, and police say they have yet to catch it. The feline terrifying residents of Luraville in Suwani County.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Sure. Suwanis is how I would say that. Yeah, Suwanis. Florida turned out, in Florida, turned out to be an angry domestic cat, according to local officials. The vicious feline. How do they know it's angry? I mean, it's just their assumption because it hurt people. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah, exactly. He may not be angry. You might just be a cat. Like overly playful? Yeah, it's a little too rough, you know. Yeah, it's a little too much horsing around. The vicious feline sent two people in the area to emergency to treat injuries after two separate attacks. Law enforcement has laid traps to catch him, but they have yet to nab it in the past week, according to local news.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It is currently unclear whether the cat is a feral cat or is escaped pet who may have developed rabies. I feel like it's got to be feral, right? Oh, my God. Yeah, probably feral. Maybe rabies. When's the last time you had a rabies shot? Long time ago? Oh, that's really good question. Yeah, a long time ago. I felt like it's been, I got, I stepped on a nail when I was 12, and I think that was the last time I got a rabies shot.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's not something you need to re-up, is it rabies? I don't think so. Or maybe you do when you do something gnarly like rusty nail. Yeah, you probably do. Right, exactly. Oh, dang it. Rusty nail. Time we go get a rabies shot. Which is also the name of one of our tad-pull regulars, and listen, Rusty Nails. I've had one of you through my foot, and it was not. It was not a pleasant experience. It was no good.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yes. Then I stepped on a dice tomato and boy, was in a mess. Oh, what a mess. Especially because the dice tomato hates everything. It hates everything. Basically, the sound it made when I stepped on it was, meh. What does the dice tomato sound like when you step on it? It's meh.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, yeah, that's tetanus. That's tetanus. You're right. West Nidil is tetanus. Oh, yeah. You're right. What new tattoo that we have to get put on is the step on a rusty nail equals tetanus. So hold on, tetanus then.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Tetanus shot would have been the nail for me. That is what you do get when you have something happen, right? You can get that on the regular. But rabies. But you don't need to re-up. You don't need to re-up tetanus. You just need to get it when something like that happens. When something like that happened, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But rabies you just do when you're a kid, I think, and you're done. Yeah, I think so. Whoa. What did you say? say, babe? My wife just scared me. What'd you say? Dog bites. That's what you do for rabies? Or it's when you get a rabies shot? That's when you get a rabies shot. Okay. Exactly. All right. What if the dog claws you and its nails are rusty?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Oh, then we're in, then we're in. What if a dog steps on a rusty nail and then bites you. Do you get both? Oh my gosh, dude. This is a Scott scenario. I love this. It's a great. What if? It's a good what if. I like it. Yeah, it's a good one if. Yeah. During two separate incidences, residents, residents, were exercising and walking on the 174th Street. I like the idea that they were walking, but going like, had weights and doing this. They were exercising. They were walking.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, I like that. Wogging, Wogging hybrid. Is that what that's called? Wogging? Wogging, yes. Wog, G-G-I-N-G. I think that's kind of what I do. I wog.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I don't walk. And I don't jog. I walk. Does Kim yell you slow down. We're on a nice leisurely walk here. Sometimes, yeah. If I'm honest. I guess if it's the two of you, if you're actually,
Starting point is 00:39:53 side that you're wagging the dog the problem is I have a long stride so my long my long ass genetic legs go way out in front so everyone behind me is like trying to keep up yeah she has a long stride too and she's still bang you slow down you might be too fast this is a different voice to where I'm going I want to get to her her walk voice is different than her other voice I like it yeah yes it is brain can you slow down why are you walking so fast Because I want to get to the Apple store Want to buy my things So we can get home And watch more television
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's right For your honor Yeah Watch the next episode of your honor Okay You are clearly loving that show I'm loving that show And it's uh
Starting point is 00:40:37 My God is it taking a turn It's uh Would you put it on par With Breaking Bad as far as Yanik overall All that really I wouldn't have before And I would now Because it
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's Uh man Brian Cranston What a American Dynamo that guy is. He's so good. How do you go from Dr. Wattley to Malcolm in the middle
Starting point is 00:40:59 to then Walter White? Exactly. It's crazy. Yeah, now Michael DeSario. No, no, not Rosario. Desario? I've got Rosario Dosson now in my head.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Is it DeSario? Desario. So are any of the producers, writers, anybody related to Vince Gilligan in his business or no? I don't think so. Okay. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:41:21 if there's any other connection besides Cranston and and Hector not Hector T.O. Salamanca. Salamanca. Salamanca. That must be weird. It doesn't look like any other.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Such a weird. Peter Moffat who you know from Peter Bapba-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-P. Peter Moffat. uh criminal justice uh peter moffat peter moffat i'm trying to think of what else there wasn't there was something else that we just watched recently that was peter moffat dang that name is really familiar to me yes not the singer different guy let's see let's see um db i'll look up peter moffat yeah uh maybe maybe i'm thinking of a different Moffet. Maybe I am thinking of the oh Sherlock Holmes on BBC
Starting point is 00:42:20 I think that's right because he's just Sherlock that one? Yeah just the one called Sherlock. The Benedict Camerbatch Martin Freeman deal? I don't think I think that's not the same Moffat. I don't see Stephen Moffat and Stephen Moffat is also
Starting point is 00:42:39 Doctor Who Oh it's different Moffat No relation. Okay. Of all the Moffets and that's probably why what I was, that's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, yeah, I mean, I've watched Doctor Who I watched Sherlock. There's got to be the same Moffitt.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Nope. How can there possibly be two Moffets? How possibly? Oh, this reminds me. So as I'm scrolling here, I see Queen's Gambit and it reminds me I forgot to tell you about a dream I had. And this is legitimately... I've had it. Every possible. Not that dream.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Every possible when you're about to do this. Slightly different dream. No, so it's her and the girl in the new live action little mermaid. Oh, yeah. Hallie something. Yes. But she's got the same deal.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Their eyes are almost on the side of her head, right? Right. And by the way, when I say that, I don't mean in a mean way. I think these are very attractive young ladies. Oh, yeah, it's a sign of you, Hallie Bailey, yes. That's her, Halie Bailey. This dream was those two, probably because I have this thing with their eyes, those two in a buddy cop action movie,
Starting point is 00:43:40 where those two are running around, shooting up stuff and taking care of business. And it was great in this dream. I love it. And the movie's called Peripheral Vision. Yeah. Or it should be private eyes or something like that. Private wide set eyes. I do like peripheral vision better.
Starting point is 00:43:57 That's actually pretty good. That's not bad. But I'm sure I put them together. What, Claire? What? No, she's yelling at me. What? What she's yelling at you for?
Starting point is 00:44:05 For peripheral vision? Oh, she's doing it to me too. No. They're awesome. Don't, again, let me clarify this for Claire. Clarification. Right. Claireification.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Those actresses, I think, are amazing. And I can't wait to see. Dude, she's Furiosa in the upcoming freaking follow-up to Mad Max Fury Road. Are you kidding me? Like, I'm so excited about that. And I think they're incredibly talented. And I don't find it weird. She was freaking Lilja Rasputin in the New Mutants movie that was actually really good.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I don't find her at all weird. I find her mysteriously interesting. She's just a very fascinating face. And there's a reason why that helps. think that's part of her persona and it's great it's not a negative it's a net positive all right i wish my eyes were out here claire is comparing it to like saying oh nice mole scott not saying anything bad about it but jesus what a mole i mean she's like yeah but i didn't say geez uh queen's gambit lady nice eyeballs i mean there's nothing wrong with it but nice eyeballs weird but she's really
Starting point is 00:45:07 pretty bad i didn't say that i didn't say that i think she has a fascinating look to her and and i man, I think it's cool. Nothing but respect. I'm just saying I think that's what my brain did for my dream. It assembled these two looks and put it together. Without my consent, I can't tell my dream what to do. My brain doesn't go. That seems a little weird to put the two stretchy eyed ladies in there together.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Why are you doing that? My brain doesn't do that. Nobody's brain does that. All right, Claire. There's your clarification. Perfect. Excellent. That's a new segment on the show.
Starting point is 00:45:43 clarification clarification yeah yes that's our hot new topic thing uh all right we're gonna take a break when we come back my sister wendy will be joining us and uh pretty sure she never replied about this email but i'm pretty sure she's good with this email so hopefully what we're doing is what we're covering anyway so she'll be here in a second she asked for it by the way like she requested this so she can't complain about it yeah you can't walk that back windy all right yeah we're just making a straw man here about how windy feels about it but anyway she'll be here shortly that'll be fun and you'll all enjoy that but before we can do any of it we have to play this here song that you prepared what do you got there yeah every once in a while a song crosses my desk that i feel
Starting point is 00:46:23 would make a great opening titles theme song for a tarentino movie and we're about to get one of those right now these guys feel it's like that modern but western like weird compressed audio that feels like it was made a hundred years ago but is just fresh and brand new Anyway, the band is called Green Ghost Star. Oh, my gosh, really? That's amazing. Green Ghostar. They have a brand new album that just came out last week.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It's called On and On and Gone. It just came out June 2nd. They're on tour fourth. They started out in Atlanta, and they're moving across the country, so make sure you go see them if you like this. I totally dig this. They're from Atlanta. Gringo Star from the album On and On and Gone.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Here is the song, Hanging Ramp. All I do is lay around about a way. I could never tell it's through till it's too late. We are hanging around through the grass to the sun. On the fence that I found run
Starting point is 00:47:42 Why don't Run around Run around Stay up late Why not Every new thing I said and forgot When I end around
Starting point is 00:48:06 Do you cry to the cell All the finger I find out I found will forever be found And I go on feeling that it's never what they say But you can make it easier than one day Even if you don't find When I'm none of creep I've been to the soul When you prepared me for the old song
Starting point is 00:49:11 I feel it crass to the sound All the things that I found It'll ever be down I've tried them all with no hamburger Compared to a McDonald's hamburger I mean 100% pure beef on a toasted bun What a deal. Know what my husband gave me for my birthday?
Starting point is 00:49:45 An apple tree. And we've returned. Who was that again? Sure, that's Gringo Star from Atlanta and their brand new song hanging around from their new album, On and On and Gone. Wow. That is.
Starting point is 00:50:11 a long paging quentin tarantino use this for your next theme song your next movie title themes quentin your final film wendy i mean random not a chance hey look who it is it's my sister windy the therapist who comes on this show and slubs with us and helps you with your real problems wendy welcome back how are you i'm good yeah doing all right how was the graduation last week you had a little thing to do there was good yeah it was very good very i don't know every kid's so different right and this kid's like not interested in us celebrating him at all like finds it very annoying and don't do it and so we're like okay can i like have a one picture it's just yeah not into it and here it is like people have graduation parties like you would
Starting point is 00:50:58 not believe i mean so many taco trucks let me just say so it feels like you're being neglectful when really just honoring his wishes so many kids are some parents are getting taco trucks for their kids' graduation? Oh, I'm telling you, I've been to a few grad parties that I'm like, I've been to way less nice weddings. Wow. It is such a big deal. They talk, I mean, and kids, you imagine, culturally speaking, right?
Starting point is 00:51:23 You've been going to grad parties since you were a child, right? And so when it's your final turn, they'll combine like three kids. They'll rent out an entire pavilion in a park and get ice cream trucks and food trucks. And it is a big thing. But I'm telling you what, they make so much money. money. Yeah, but it's a junior high thing in this case, right? This junior high graduation, isn't it? No, middle, no, this is high school. This, wait, Peter graduated high school? No, this is Elliot. No, this is, what am I saying? This is the old one. This is A. Yeah. Can you imagine a middle school
Starting point is 00:51:56 graduation with DACA trucks? Yeah, in my head, in my head, this was Peter for some reason. I don't know why. Listen, I've seen promposals that involved hiring Hemsworth. Yeah. Oh, okay. never mind. That one's expensive. People will do anything for the smallest things these days. Yeah. I guess that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Thankfully, no one else had any kind of official graduation ceremony. But everyone did move to different schools. It is a banner year. We're all moving on. Wow. It is a big year. That's a big transition for everybody.
Starting point is 00:52:27 It is. No more elementary school for me, you guys. I don't have to smell that building. Yay. Is it to smell the middle school? No more. Peter in junior high or middle school is just an insane idea to me. Just that's too fast.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It's too fast, man. I don't get it. He was three years old moving to freaking Sweden last time I saw him. Or not really, but it feels like that. And he's definitely a different human. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 He came packaged in his own special way. Well, anyway, that's awesome. We're getting close to the big family thing up at Bear Lake and I'm excited to see you guys and hang out and do a little jet skiing and all that business. It's going to be fun to see all those guys. Everyone's coming, right? Yeah. All the kiddos?
Starting point is 00:53:13 All right, cool. So Abe's not like, I'm too school now and old and graduated. I don't need to. No, I think he's happy to have a paid vacation. Yeah. He's not dumb. He's not stupid. That's in July?
Starting point is 00:53:25 July, end of July, or toward the end of July, yeah. So that'll be fun. And plus, I think you're going to be in Vegas for a couple of days. All this Vegas. We are, yeah. Just because it turns out, I don't know what kind of racket they've got going in the Salt Lake Airport. but there are some costly flights. So we thought, you know what, let's not drive 21 hours.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Let's drive six. And we're going to fly to Vegas and then drive up. Yeah. You'll save money and have fun and have a cool drive. That's great. Yeah. And not have 22 hours of driving. My kids really haven't been to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Abe is really excited about the Mega Mart. It's like the art. Oh, Omega Mart. Yeah. And the Meow Wolf. Yeah. Make him go. Or all of you go.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It's awesome. It's so cool. That's our plan. Maybe, uh, make them goal. He'll love that. As a kid, I would have freaked out in there. Oh, man. By the way, I mean, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Oh, wait. Oh, wait. You're going this weekend. Oh, weird. You guys go to Vegas all the time. By the way, if you ever find yourself in St. Louis, though, you must. Is it St. Louis where it is? No, they're fine.
Starting point is 00:54:30 They're fine. They're fine. We've never been there. Have either of you been there? I've been to St. Louis once, yes, one time. Long time ago. I was high school graduation trip. I took those stupid tiny elevators up to the top of the gateway arch.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, yeah, that's great. I just making sure you Westerners and your judgment about everything. No, we like the East. I like the east side of the world, of the country. Okay, but let me say this. If you ever get a chance to go to the city museum, you go right now. It's in St. Louis. Is it just called the St. Louis city?
Starting point is 00:54:59 A favorite psychedelic dream put into real life, and it is so fun. Oh, wow. Never heard of it. That sounds awesome. What's the name? Basically, all sorts of, it's everything you can imagine, someone dreamed up and welded together and then kids play on it. And like, you go through these tunnels, you can buy knee pads because you need them. I needed a helmet.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I hit my head so many times. Like, it is just a fun. It's like walking through an art installation. Oh, look at this. I got all this pinball stuff. Oh, yeah, the pinball section, we stayed for hours. It's so fun. Anyway, it's a really good.
Starting point is 00:55:34 This looks awesome. And it's just called. St. Louis City Museum. That's the name. It's just called City Museum. Which sounds boring, but obviously they're doing something cool. They do. And when your gift shop sells knee pads and Band-Aids, you are, you're
Starting point is 00:55:48 in somewhere special. There's some kind of weird giant praying mantis up on a thing. Oh, really? That's cool. Oh, Brian, this looks awesome. Like you get in old airplanes and just climb around. Like, it's amazing. It's cool. Although it reminds me there are no mountains in St. Louis. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I didn't say that. How do you find your way around town? Like, how do you say, oh, that's west? No, they just, they show some outside video and it's that flat sort of, you know, got to Ohio and never seen anything but trees forever and ever. Nothing wrong with it. It just throws me because I'm not used to it. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It's fine. Well, speaking of fine, let's get straight to it. So you asked weeks ago, I want to say, maybe even a month ago, for some bad parenting stories. And we've yet to get to much of that. But we've gotten replies. And this one in particular today from someone will call M. is a bad parenting story.
Starting point is 00:56:38 In fact, they literally say in the stop of their email, Wendy asked for a bad parenting story, question mark. And here it comes. Hold my beer. You sure? I got one. Here it is. It says, after my partner and I lost custody of our foster child,
Starting point is 00:56:52 we decided to do surrogacy. We did everything together, but with two surrogacies, somehow the births of our two kids ended up being six weeks apart. Oh my gosh. We did it in another, sorry, we did it in another county,
Starting point is 00:57:05 country, that's important, country, to save money and went down and picked up our first child after his birth. We brought him back and COVID closed everything, leaving our daughter to be born without us and have a nurse take care for for six months until we could pick her up. That's horrible timing. Yeah. Oh my gosh. During this time, we were so focused on how to get our daughter that we didn't notice that our son was lying on one side of his head so much that it caused an indentation on his skull. We realized it and did the helmet, but it still looks misshapen. and as a result, we have to keep his hair long so nobody will notice. We tell everybody that is because he, sorry,
Starting point is 00:57:42 that it is because he looks so much like his older brother, his long hair is so we can tell them apart in pictures. This is also true, but not the real reason. Anyway, what is the worst parenting story I can think of? But you asked for it, M. What do you think of that? What do you think of the... Perfect example.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Thank you for sharing that. Okay. I mean, what it highlights is this thing that in the difficulty of parenting. And in this particular really difficult, holy cow, you imagine, your child is born somewhere and you don't get to see it. Right. You're sorry, waiting for and waiting for it. It's like, okay, nope, sorry, shutting everything down.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Pick up your child in six weeks for six months. That is so, and bless the nurse's heart, good night. Like, what, that is, you could do anything. And I would not think that was bad parenting. That is surviving, right? You get carte blanche. You get to get out of bad parenting free card. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And I'm telling you right now, there are so many kids with flattened skulls and different mischavened things who do not have the same excuse. Right. And that's a, you know, we could talk about the reason for that real quick. is just that, you know, the age old baby sleep best on their tummies and never had flat head problems was before research showed enough that kids died of SIDS and had other problems. And so then you put them all on their back. Well, our heads are not built to be on their, with pressure on them as much as they are if you're sleeping, you know, 14 hours a day on it. So it's really common. And the helmets do a lot of good. But I am sure this just feels like, oh how could we have missed this that kind of thing right right yeah and that's that's kind of the feeling um well i'll tell you my story and then we can talk a little bit about that feeling because i think that is this is going to lead into my a soapbox you know oh i like those yeah bring it on just about parenting in general um because it comes from an honest place but it is going haywire
Starting point is 00:59:52 when kids are college age. Okay. And that being this idea of like this feeling is awful. This feeling like I didn't do everything I could to make sure my kid had the best shot in life. We all have it. Some of us have it stronger because our parents seem to not have done any of that for us. There's a generational sort of split, right? I mean, I don't know about both of your parents.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I could make some assumptions about your parents, Scott. But, you know, how often were they just really careful with your feelings? Or how often did they consider everything you needed all the time? Probably rarely. Yeah, the stuff you think about, you don't think about it all when you're in the middle of it and you're the kid that age. But then when you get older, you start going, were they? What did they do in this situation?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Did they? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we have this running joke, like asking Adam's parents when they moved across the country, what were they thinking like were they worried about how the kids would handle the move and they both maybe it's forgetfulness but both are like oh that never crossed our minds yeah yeah that's hilarious i make almost every decision it's like okay how will this affect my kids right and so it's a big jump and i don't know if we could all appreciate this very much but i do think it's a little bit of a pendulum problem where it's swung pretty far for some and then for others maybe there's there's still not enough
Starting point is 01:01:19 care and so it's complicated right and we get to watch it all on Facebook or on you know whatever so we are watching parenting everybody everybody is parenting live basically yeah really are and I am I have like what is it called vicarious like no don't don't post that and I do have a lot of I don't know about you guys maybe you're just different than me but I am when I see anyone filming like a really important moment and the other person, you can see it in their face. They're almost like, I'm having this moment and you're filming me. And maybe I'm projecting and I, I don't know, but there is, I've seen a couple words like, why are you doing that? Like, no. And I hate it so much. Like, do not film this. And it can be good
Starting point is 01:02:09 things. It doesn't even have to be awkward things. But I do think about the awkward things. I think, oh, man, these kids are going to kill you when they grow up. Yeah, they're going to get you. Look, it's his first pooping on the toilet. I can't wait for him. Watch, this is a grown-up. Yeah. Right. And I have a theory about why that is so ubiquitous and it's not very, maybe monitored like you would hope, maybe a little more discreteness or something.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And I think it's because parenting is incredibly lonely. It is one of the loneliest jobs you will ever have, especially if you're doing it alone. Even when you're doing it in a partnership, you're seeing it differently, maybe different levels of involvement. or whatever. But it is incredibly lonely. And to have thousands of people give you a thumbs up until you're doing a good job or laughing with you, right? Like, that's intoxicating. I get it. Anyway, that's not the point of my story, though. I'll tell you so. Here's my bad parenting moment. You guys ready? We're ready. And it's, it's, it's really not. I have to keep my kids hair long to hide this school thing. I was hoping someone would send one that was, yeah, it's a great example,
Starting point is 01:03:18 but mine's maybe not so bad. but it was the feeling and that's the thing I want to talk about is okay the month of May was like I can't I've never had a month like that in my life so much happening and I blame track does anyone know what being a parent of a track person is like it's just in the track for a year and it's it's so many meets oh my gosh it's way more than like if you're the parent of a football player or basketball player it's like what there are three meets this week and they're all at 4 30 p.m yeah at least with football you're like oh they have a fall season that's like toward the end of the year oh yeah they're done yeah exactly it is never ending and they're eight hours
Starting point is 01:04:04 long and you if you aren't there on time because it's 30 seconds of running you miss the whole thing right it is so annoying so elliott started doing that he did hurdles and you know it's a psychological game as well, right? He decides to do hurdles because he doesn't know how and he knows how to run. So why would I do that? I'm like, well, I don't know. Just do it and you know how. And he biffs it on the first race at the last hurdle just limps to the finish line.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah. So then we got to work on that. And then the next, he does it again, crashes again, bleeding everywhere. Like, hubbles. What's the word? Hobbles. Hobbles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:45 to the finish line. And he's still super into this. I'm like, are we, can we quit? Are we quitting? No one's quitting? Okay. So that was happening. And then I made the big mistake of letting Peter do every musical thing he wanted to
Starting point is 01:05:00 because next year you really have to narrow it down. And this kid is all over the map. And so I thought, well, let's just let him try choir, plays the cello, and he can do drums. Those are the things he's doing. He does them in school. It's really not a lot of my time. but it means there's three concerts in May and then we got this track problem and then we have a high school senior graduating and wow are there one million things to do for that and then
Starting point is 01:05:27 then Allison was graduating from her program so so much happening well one night I was like I didn't even know what day it is I would wake up every morning I'm like okay what day is it like Thursday I knew because Scott would send me like hey therapy Thursday tomorrow I'm like it must be Wednesday that's how that's how you're right That's how you got to identify the days of the week. If it's any consolation, I could tell that May was rough. You still showed up like a champ every time you did it. It's just you could tell that it was like, all right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 In a way, you were like compartmentalizing one thing at a time. It was just like I could tell you were swamped. Whatever the next hill in front of me, right? 100%. And then lots of drama with some close people. And yeah, just so much. I can't even tell you. And then, so it's a night, I don't know, what night.
Starting point is 01:06:21 You didn't text me, Scott, so I didn't know. Anyway, and I was like, you know what? We all need to pull weeds. That's what we need to do. Let's go out after dinner and just pull some weeds and like start to build the garden. Pete loves the garden. So we're just doing that. That feels grounding and normally, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Put him to bed. And at 10 p.m., he wakes up. He comes upstairs. And my children only sleep in underwear. So it's always like, you're a grown 18-year-old man. Can you not just wear underwear around my house? Anyway, but Pete comes, you know, stumbling up the stairs in his underwear, crying. And I'm like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:07:00 And he goes, I think I had my final band concert tonight. Oh, no. And I was like, that can't be right. That can't be right. And I look on the calendar. I look at all the emails. And for some reason, on a written calendar at some point, I had it written on a Tuesday. I put an arrow and moved it to a Wednesday for no reason.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And I can't figure out why. Oh, my gosh. I felt so bad. So bad. And he is not the kid that will ever forget or let this go. Oh, yeah. No, he'll bring it up at your funeral. Oh, yeah, he will.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Do you remember that concert? The one that matters. Yeah, yeah, no, you're totally right. But it's funny because isn't this the same month where we couldn't find that big email for the longest time. Yeah. We're losing our minds. 100%. So nothing is going well. And then he, so he, I talked to him for a while and I am having this feeling. And this, this is, this is why I wanted someone to commiserate with me is the feeling that, first of all, regret, like how hard would that have been to just, I don't know, glance somewhere and not pull weeds
Starting point is 01:08:08 and go to the concert? I email the teacher like, I'm so sorry. And she's like, well, we wondered if he was okay and I'm like okay that's not how I want you to respond yeah right but he's okay I just need you to go oh I get it in a phone call yeah I was like you know one thought to call no one so because we were just pulling weeds anyway you just feel terrible because he worked all year to get to this final concert and he felt terrible I felt terrible blah blah right so you just are tempted and I had this experience which I think I think might be universal and it might be I'm just a jerk and everyone else is laughing at me, that's fine, is that I'm tempted to just quickly be like, okay, stuff happens. I have a million excuses. You guys just heard them. I gave
Starting point is 01:08:56 them to you. I preamble to all my excuses. They were all legit as well, by the way. And they are. They are. But man, did I want to just be like, Peter, you got to stop crying because you're making me feel so much worse about a thing that it's just not that big a deal. Like, I am in my, trust me, none of these words can. out of my mouth, but I was sure thinking them like, I do not have, because again, I still had a lot more to do. So I was like, I do not have time to have broken your heart. So I am, I, I, I listened to my own advice, which was good. And I just sat at the edge of his bed, strokes his leg and just let him cry and just said I'm so sorry bud and I just kept saying
Starting point is 01:09:42 tell me what tell me how you feel about it like just keep going like let it out I was like my gosh this is so hard yeah right and it's this is happening at what 10 10 30 11 o'clock at night or something yeah yeah everyone needs sleep right no one's okay yeah and anyway I I just feel terrible and I have this urge like okay I have to pick him up tomorrow after school, what if I bring his favorite treat? Like, I am planning the eating disorder. Like, I am planning. How do I comfort this boy and make me not the bad guy?
Starting point is 01:10:16 And, you know, oh, my gosh, it was all these things processing in my head at the same time. Like, but the therapist part of me is going, yeah, none of this is good. Don't say that, you know. And I, I could follow it, right? And you take this kid whose situation is, you know, he's a baby and his head's flat and it's during a global pandemic, hopefully once in a lifetime nightmare situation, right? And you can't fix it. You can try. You can say you're sorry and do the helmet and try to help.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah, but at least, okay, so in both of these cases that you described, both this email and that we've parsed a bit and then your experience with Peter, they're both reactionary. What does it say, well, okay, I'll admit to something. Here's a bad parenting thing for me. I did this to all three of my kids during about the same range of age between, oh gosh, let's say early to mid junior high all the way through high school. Yeah. I would be tipped off as to certain things they were up to. Like I would know that Taylor or that Carter was in a meeting at school dealing with
Starting point is 01:11:25 audio video stuff for the play they were doing or something. I would know she was involved in it. she didn't know I was I would know so I'd use little bits like that to say oh hey how to go at the meeting she's like how do you know about that I said well and I did this to all three kids I said I have people on the inside I have people who are always watching you guys I have I have cameras at school I have people who run them I have people who report to me every day about where you guys are at and what you're doing so I trust you all everything's fine but just know that I've got you know I have I've I've informants that are all around.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And I think for, you know, at least for a smidge in a time, they all believed it. We've all had big laughs about it now. They all know I was full of it. But the way I justified it was, I was like, well, this just puts a little bit of that reminder in their head that dad's watching. So they don't do anything really stupid. But also, in my head, I justify it by like saying, well, I also told them Santa Claus. It was real until they were seven.
Starting point is 01:12:24 You know what I mean? So I justified it as this like, well, it's just one of those deals. But I look back on it now and I think, I probably shouldn't have done that. You know, it didn't ruin anybody. Nobody's effed up for it or anything. But they're just like, like they're more annoyed now. Like, hey, remember when I told you guys, I had cameras at school and were people watching
Starting point is 01:12:41 you so I could keep track of you? I think cameras at school. Dad, I know. It's so dumb. But they were all like, they were all like, and they would say, how is this possible that? You can't really do it. I go, hey, you can, that's fine. You can think whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Just know, you know, I'm good. I don't need, you know, like, I would really be like aloof about it. and they and they and they and they and they yeah it's this really like stupid thing but it comes from that same impulse right of yeah i want to make sure you're okay i want to prevent bad things from happening to you right right and so that same impulse that apparently you know baby boomers never had but just this idea that drives a lot of our behavior it comes from an honest place right My impulse to react the way I did comes from, I'm tired, I have more to do. This is like the last thing I can have on my list right now.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And it's all the opposite things of like actually meeting the kid where he's at or meeting his needs or, you know, whatever it might be, right? And I guarantee you ask any parent who's done with the hard years of raising kids and they will have their own version of this story of their bad parenting moment. And then they will also, if you're in the thick of parenting, you are worried. you're doing some of these things, right? Oh, yeah. And I also think what happens, this very common, I should, I found out who it is, but there's some TikToker who talks about, she's an older woman who talks about parents, trying to help parents handle when their kids come to confront them about things that didn't go well in
Starting point is 01:14:14 their childhood. Right. Because, man, do people need that help? Because what happens is we're instantly defensive, or maybe we do that same impulse I had with Pete. We missed your concert and I want to tell them all the reasons. It's not my fault, even though it's 100% my fault. It's really hard, especially at the end of parenting when your 25-year-old child comes to you and says, you know, you really harmed me.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And here's the ways you've harmed me. And you're like, what can I do now? Like, I've got nothing I can do. And maybe you really don't think you did any of those things wrong or you're just feeling defensive. And it's really tricky how to maintain and grow in a relationship when there's, that that criticism coming and so often I think parents what we're trying to do is avoid any of that and then we get a little we double down maybe when we feel that threatened a little bit so I'm going to tell you the end of the story with Pete and then we'll talk about the pendulum a little bit
Starting point is 01:15:13 okay so I feel awful awful can't stop feeling awful so I did what you're supposed to do and I think people do this go in big ways I just do it with one or two people but I reached out to a free friends and I'm like, please just tell me a bad parent story. I need one. I just need to know how you have let your child with the perfect memory down. And my friend, I cannot tell you how helpful this is, which is, you know, I think what people are often seeking. But she told me the story about how they just, she went to her daughter's concert choir thing. They were late. She just was taking her sweet time just like it's fine and it was like in a downtown area and her daughter had a solo she's like there's plenty of time plenty of time they get there traffic's really bad there's no time and they can
Starting point is 01:16:06 hear as they're running through the streets because they had to park so far they can hear the song start the song that has her solo in it oh no so they are running running and running they get there another little girl is singing, this is second, third, fourth grade-ish, I can't remember exactly, probably fourth grade, and this other little girl is singing the solo. That kid's gone places. You watch.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I know, and my friend and her daughter are running into the plaza where everyone is and she doesn't stop her. She just thinks she'll stop, right? The girl does not stop. She runs up next to the girl and starts singing it with her. sobbing she's sobbing and she is singing next to her and my friend's like i was so tempted to just
Starting point is 01:16:58 fade into a crowd and never become yeah yeah and so that was a little traumatic moment for this young child right and it just made me feel so much better because i know this kid now she's 17 and hilarious and so great and well adjusted and she's just fine but it is that like that is a moment where you cannot undo your mistakes. And this is what happens, right? So the Peter thing, I just, so my friends all made me feel better. Like you have not destroyed your child
Starting point is 01:17:26 because you haven't. And then I just kept doing the same, meet him wherever he's at. Don't just keep apologizing, owning your mistake. Do not let one excuse come out of your mouth. And then I picked him up the next day from school and he gets in the car.
Starting point is 01:17:44 and I'm like, how are you doing? And he goes, I'm feeling a lot better. And I said, okay, tell me about that. How are you feeling better? Because that was really tough. Like, I just kept trying to emphasize, I see that this is painful. He goes, well, turns out on song three, the whole drum section totally screwed up. And that made me somehow feel better that I missed it.
Starting point is 01:18:08 And I was like, okay. And I said, and you talk to the teacher. The teacher was like, oh, we missed you so much. and everyone knew I was gone and gave me lots of love after it. So his world helped him process, not me, right? It wasn't my job. I had to get out of the way. I needed to apologize.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I had to get out of the way. So it turned into a good parenting moment, but man was that like climbing up a hill pushing a rock in my psyche. It was just so difficult to actually do to get out of my child's way when I armed him. And I think the reason bringing it up is the feeling, is so strong. You want that feeling to end. I do not want to feel like I harmed my son's skull and that he now had to wear this helmet. Like, I do not want to think I made my kid humiliate herself in front of everyone singing and pushing a girl over to sing in the way.
Starting point is 01:19:01 That's funny. I do not want to feel this responsibility. But I am telling you, when we can just own the stuff we need to own, and especially if you have older children who are coming to you about a past thing you cannot fix. Do your best to just really listen. Maybe call somebody to get out the excuse part or get a podcast and share it with everyone so they all know you're still a good person. But with the child, really hear it and really listen and really be ready to say sorry. Here's the truth. They were also turds. It's not like this was equal, but you are the adult. They are the kid. And that gets confusing when a kid becomes an adult. is they are now coming still as a child to say, hey, mom and dad, I needed something you didn't
Starting point is 01:19:50 get. And you're looking at this adult going, get over it, right? I looked at an 11-year-old and thought, get over it. And I know better. Guys, I know better. It's really, it's really difficult. So really the summation of this is these feelings that can be incredibly strong, especially as you are parenting and making mistakes, which you will continue to do, is learning how to handle those feelings, what to do with them, how to get processed through them or support that is not about making the victim of your mistake responsible for how you feel, right? And I do think this swing and like I have a good portion of my clientele right now who are college A's kids who we are just, it's like slowly removing their parents need for their kids
Starting point is 01:20:40 to get good grades or their study certain topics or just that that helicoptering thing that really comes from a place of I want my kid to be okay, right? And working on how to get those healthy boundaries and it's tough. Do you think it's like, I mean, you always kind of, I feel like even on the show, we've been doing this long enough for Thursdays that I feel like we've predicted some of this or we've said, boy, I wonder what it's going to be like when these kids become 18 to 25 or whatever. And now they're doing it. And are you, do you feel? feel um i don't know do you feel like it's going to the way you thought it was going to go like forget or ill that's what you know it's you predicted it that is a problem they definitely have
Starting point is 01:21:21 the words for it right like unlike any other generation they're like i think he gaslighted me mom you're like what you know um i think there's always been this version this thing and every generation as it as you come of age and your brain sort of sees the world differently and you're still really immature, right? You're still figuring out things. And so I think the battle of generations and parenting to child stuff is definitely not new. I just think I think you have a couple things. One, you have the contagion that can happen because of social media. Like, everyone thinks their parent is gaslighting them when they're absolutely not. But it's because they've learned enough about it. It's like everyone's in an abnormal psych class. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:22:05 oh, I can diagnose everyone now. They know just enough to be dangerous. Just enough to be dangerous. And that is problematic. And I don't love that for them. But I do think the openness and the willingness to communicate and the bravery and to set boundaries and to, you know, start to navigate that is commendable. Does it make it easy? No.
Starting point is 01:22:27 But yeah, I guess I will see. I mean, sometimes I just think if we pan out, like we're all just repeating. everything like nothing is new nothing is new it's just different forms right so yeah yeah i don't know but i tell you i'm like okay pete there's that time you got hurt on the bike and that was my fault okay and now i forgot your concert should we just keep a list you know it's the the airing of grievances for festivus basically is what it's going to come down to yeah exactly except i have my own record of it just so we can keep it straight like i have joked i'll just keep a document for your future therapist doesn't sound controlling at all.
Starting point is 01:23:06 No, not as all. Not at all. Wow. And these things happen in threes usually. Do you fear a third shoe dropping? Oh, yeah. His high school years, I can tell you right now. I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:23:18 He's such a unique kid. I wish everybody could meet Pete because he's not, he's just not your normal. And I don't mean this in like, oh, he's weird. I mean, he's like just a different brain. You know, you've already, you've already, I shamed on you, Taylor Joy. Yeah, why not? I'll just keep going. Sure.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Keep the, keep this train rolling. Absolutely. The irony, everyone, is he is Scott. That's the funny part. No, 100% as a kid, 100% as a kid, I was like him. I think he's a little more, how do I put this? Like, if you said to him, hey, Pete, let's go jump out of a helicopter and a parachute. He'd say yes.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah. I would say no to that. That's because I'm his mom. Yeah. To cross the ocean a couple times. Wendy's a little more adventurous in that regard. But other than that, yeah, his imagination, just kind of. of the way it brings. Sometimes you'll tell me stuff and I'll just go, oh, no one around him gets
Starting point is 01:24:10 that though. He gets it. No one else gets it. Obviously, his mom gets it. But, you know, it's hard. His mom is used to it. I don't know if I get it. I think the other thing is it makes him different from you. He's really good at math. Yeah, no, if he's great at math, that's a huge differentiator between the two of us. But just like his grandfather, he cannot spell for him to save his life. his uncle. We both, we both struggle. Yeah, I was going to say, I also like Scott. Yeah, my dad, the difference between me and my dad was, my dad didn't grow up with little red underlines on a screen to be able to correct things for him and make him lazy about it. He just literally struggled with it, had a little bit of dyslexia, like had all that stuff going on. I really have no good excuse. I've just let
Starting point is 01:24:52 myself get lazy, you know. Is he good with years though? Can he tell you exactly what your movie came out? Yeah, because I can do that. How's Pete with like years and movies or, uh, terrible. really because i could tell you you could name a movie and i could tell you the year try it wendy give me a movie uh what about bob uh 1980 oh these that one might be hard uh 88 i'll say something like that no way is it that old 90 91 but dan close give me a more significant movie like one that's a big deal i think it's funny there's it says something by the way that that's the first movie that comes to wendy's i know it doesn't it is weird about a uh a psychiatrist who has a one patient that drives him absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Oh my gosh, dude. The reason it was top of mind is my client just before this call was like, have you seen that movie? And I was like, I have not thought about that movie in approximately 30 years because it's, that's how old it is. But here you are. Here you are. That movie hates it.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I can't remember it, really. I just know, I just remember that he's tied to a mast of a boat at some point. That's like my old memory of it. Yeah, Bill Murray is this, this patient. of Dreyfus's that can't basically just needs him so much he follows them on vacation and keeps bothering them and everybody else
Starting point is 01:26:13 basically like the wife, the kids, they all love him, they think that Bob is hilarious but Dreyfus is slowly seething and that's Tina. Oh man. That movie would drive her crazy right? Absolutely. It is the movie she uses that to describe other movies that she hates. She's like, oh my God, is this what about
Starting point is 01:26:34 That's the measuring stick. It's Eddie Haskell. It's basically the, how does everybody not see what a horrible person, Bill Murray is in this movie? That's great. That is very funny. All right, I'll give you another one. Lord of the Rings, the Twin Towers. Twin Towers was 2000 and, hold on.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Let me back that truck up. Do you call it the Twin Towers, by the way? Yeah, she did. It's two towers. Sorry. You can tell her Johnson's, right? Yeah. 2003 because the very next year was it four or two
Starting point is 01:27:09 two was two two okay because four or maybe three was return of the king then have I shifted a year but I did well look at how awesome I am at remembering years you're really good at this let's keep going yeah I mean it's still it's still an impressive superpower but if you I'd be rain manning about 1985 yeah about 1985 yeah everything was 1985. I have a friend who, his skill set, we just keep joking, he can't monetize it, but it is the creepiest thing. He can guess a celebrity's age or birth year within a year, almost 100% of the time. It's shocking. Like the other day, so let me try with you really quick. Tina, she does that too, and it blows my life. She does. Oh my gosh. So how old is Jerry Seinfeld?
Starting point is 01:27:53 I'm going to guess this. 50, sorry, 61. 68. 62. 69. 69? He's almost 70? Good job. Brian, maybe you have it too. Holy crap. I know. I've comedians and cars getting Geritol.
Starting point is 01:28:08 My gosh. That's crazy. All right. Well, we've all learned some new skills. What about aging? Anyway. Okay. We're off the rails.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Well, we are a little off the rails. Wendy, I appreciate it, though. This is awesome, as always. And I guess Kim's going to see you soon. They're going to sneak out there for a little something. Yeah. A little something. Misha. It'll be really fun. And then I'll see you guys in July. And Brian, I'll think about you when I'm in Vegas, too. Please do. I'll think about you when I'm in Vegas too. Oh, look at this, all this Vegas thinking. This is fantastic. Kumbaya. Have a great weekend. We'll see you next time. Bye now. All right. That was great. 12 hours. 12 hours, Scott. 12 hours? Is it 12 hours? Is it 12 hours? A plane in 12 hours. I'll be on a plane over the mountains. Well, at least you know your room will be ready, you know? Yeah, I've actually already checked in. Yeah, you don't have to get there at three and then go, oh, there's another hour. I've got to. I've got to,
Starting point is 01:28:59 to wait for this or whatever. No, I mean, I actually physically have checked in so that I don't even need to stop at the front desk. I'm not going to do the $20 trick. I don't care. Again, it's Excalibur. I don't care, but it's not Circus, Circus, because I care a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:16 You must care some because this isn't circus. I care some. It's not Circus Circus, but I don't care a lot, and that's why it's Excalibur. Dude, Circus, Circus. Still blows my mind the same group that owns that owns Caesars. I just don't get it. Like, why don't they... No, it's the other way.
Starting point is 01:29:31 It's part of the MGM group, Circus, Circus, I thought. Oh, is it? I thought... It's not part of the Ceezers group. I thought they, maybe they bought it out. I can't remember now. It's been, it's been MGM for a long time, I think. Circus, circus.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Let's see, they are currently owned an operator by Phil Ruffin. Is it just done by one dude now? Hold on. Yeah. Or did they sell it? Maybe they did sell it in 2019. Sold it to Empire City Casino? What is this?
Starting point is 01:30:08 Oh, no, here it is. The resort was sold to MGM Mirage, later MGM Resorts, in 05. Uh-huh. But then in 2019. Yeah, it looks like they sold it in 2019. Yeah, to this Phil Ruffin guy. But who's he? He does Treasure Island.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He does. He does. He also co-home. that Trump hotel there without the without any gambling in it. Whomp, womp, womp, what else? Yeah, that's, oh, Treasure Island Circus, Circus, and the Wichita Greyhound Park. Oh, excellent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Sign me up. And some kind of casino in Miami. All right, I had that all wrong. I thought somehow the Caesar's people were involved somewhere somehow. I guess not. Well, nobody wants it. They keep selling it off. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:52 It's like the hot potato of casinos. That makes me think, though, MGM may have had plans, you know, like some renovations. plans or something or maybe they were going to do something and just decided it's too shitty we're not doing it still waiting to see what they do with cosmo because that's been that's been mgm now for a year and a half and it's still i think it even still has their own players card i don't think you can uh i don't think there's a oh no you think you can use your mgm players card there but you can't earn can't spend points or something there's some weird deal with with mgm well as long as they never get rid of the hidden pizza i'm happy at the cosmo oh yeah no that'll
Starting point is 01:31:30 well nothing's permanent in Vegas Scott that's true it's all ephemeral isn't it it's all ephemeral so if there's something you like go enjoy it because I may not be there very long going away oh volcano oh oh the cano
Starting point is 01:31:44 entire casino oh oh what else other stuff Star Trek experience oh that one is a bummer that one stings a little bit And that proposed enterprise they were going to build, that hotel? I look at that concept art, and I weep.
Starting point is 01:32:04 I do, too. It's so damn great. Even Star Wars isn't doing their thing that they barely launched the... Yes, the year, just lasted a year that Florida thing. I'm really bummed because I did... I wanted it to fail just enough to where they lowered the price, but not fail so much that they decided just to end it. You know, like... I mean, when the thing caught...
Starting point is 01:32:26 When six days caught... the same as a new Hyundai. Yeah. That was never going to fly with the public. No, no. There aren't enough, I don't know, not in this economy. I don't know who does that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:38 And the people with that kind of money, they ain't staying there. No, no. Like two nights there cost as much as an Apple Vision Pro headset, which is a horrible metric on either side. Nobody wants to use that as a metric at all. No, it's like saying, it's like measuring things in giraffes. How many giraffes is that?
Starting point is 01:32:56 I don't know. It's a horrible metric. Yeah. I do like some Apple people have justified buying additional Macs because they're like, well, if I spent that, I'd only get the headset. But instead, I'll buy a studio, a new M2 mini, and the new MacBook. It's like justifying all the other crap they're going to buy. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Excellent. Let's get out of here. Quick reminders, Coverville today at 1, as mentioned earlier, be there. It's going to be great. Coverville. Or, sorry, twitch.tv. At 1 p.m. core tonight right here at frogpants.tv at 5 p.m.
Starting point is 01:33:31 There is a lot to sum up from this week's non-E3, E3-like announcements. Right. E-ish, three-ish. We watched most of it, recorded some of it. We've done a lot of coverage already, but we'll be doing a lot of summation tonight. So check that out. Bo will also hopefully be rested after his two weeks straight of getting to 100 without dying in hardcore in Diallo 4. And he did it.
Starting point is 01:33:52 And he's in the lower 300s, I think, of people who've done it out of the 1,000. that will be carved into the physical statue at Blizzard, which is pretty cool. That's so cool. It is pretty cool. It wore him out, though. And when he, I don't know if you've seen the video of him hitting 100,
Starting point is 01:34:06 but he almost died on the final little group of mobs he had to kill him to ding. Uh-huh. He almost died there. Like literally three deaths of three demons later, he's 100. This is a hardcore character that if it dies, it's dead. You don't go back. You're done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:25 And he was, he played for. I don't know, 18 hours straight most days like went bananas with this thing driving himself insane almost dies on the last kill he needs to ding 100 insane insane. Wow. Oh. And the other three people and had he
Starting point is 01:34:40 See here's the irony Brian. Had he done that he would be the most famous meme in Diablo for history. Yes. Yeah no kidding. That video would be everywhere he would be a story on kataku right now he would be everywhere if this happens. So part of me Some of these said for that.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Like, you know, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. But kind of like, you know, you're going to be popular if you do and popular if you don't because people are going to go back and watch that video over and over and over. And you can just tell how exhausted he was. I mean, he almost died just being tired. I'm sure. But anyway, he'll talk about that tonight and that process and it'll be lots of fun. Also, a skim today will be happening not too long after the show.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I'll have a meeting and then I have that. And then FilmSack this weekend. Brian will be remote from Vegas and Randy will be remote from Canada. Canada. That's right. Donaway and I'll be slubs here at home. And we'll make a film sack about the movie Underworld. Underworld.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Vampires. I've watched it and I'm not going to tell you what I thought of it. Oh, good. Don't tell me because I'm not telling them anymore either. All I know is my memory is real good of that movie, so we'll see how it holds up for me or not. I can't wait to see what you think now. Yeah. Or whether we should do those sequels because they're bad.
Starting point is 01:35:52 We should definitely do the sequels. I say regardless of what we. What we all say, I think we should do the sequels. Well, anyway, that's all coming up. One quick final phone call before we leave. Oh, good. Yeah, this is from a listener. This is all about being on the road
Starting point is 01:36:06 and talking about using public bathrooms. And if you're somebody whose job it is to be on the road, well, maybe you have some thoughts, and he does. So here you go. Hey there, TMS, guys. This is James the trucker. I'm on 71 between Cleveland and Columbus. And listening to y'all talking about
Starting point is 01:36:25 public bathrooms. Let me tell you something. I spend my every time I go to a public bathroom and I'm going to give you a little hint about the best public bathrooms on the road. Go to the truck stop, especially the Flying J's, and go to the trucker side because the people who are cleaning the showers for the truckers also watch that bathroom. And that bathroom stays cleaner than the other bathroom at the Flying Jays. just avoid the people because truckers can be unsavory from time to time but the bathroom on the trucker side at the flying j is the clean one love the show that's good to know there's flying jays all over here where i live yeah we have flying jays here too that's a really good note go to the trucker's side it makes sense i forgot they had showers and stuff but i guess that makes sense they'd have those that's the whole point right the flying jays like you're, uh, they cater to the truckers there. So that's good to know. I thought they had orgies in there. I thought that was the whole deal with that side. So I don't know that too. That too.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Oh, well, okay. Confirmed. All right. Uh, anyway, thank you for that. We appreciate it. If you want to call in like all these callers we had today, 801-471-0462, we'll get you there. And if you'd like to support the show, patreon.com slash TMS, we'll get you there. Tomorrow's, uh, couch party, uh, for patrons is a little on the not quite sure when we're starting status because I have this doctor's appointment. They shouldn't take more than an hour.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Is it nine? Should be back in time. But if not, I'll let you guys know and we'll figure something out. Cool. More golden girls, I believe, is the plan. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:38:07 I might, depending on when I get up tomorrow, I might pop in just to try them my microphone out, my setup out and see if it works for Discord. Oh, you totally do that if you want. I'll peek in. And if we don't, then I'll just, I'll just ping you and say, hey, can we do a quick mic test?
Starting point is 01:38:22 And it's really, it's more to test the Wi-Fi at the frickin' Excalibur to see if it's going to be good enough for FilmSack. That's true. It feels like all the Wi-Fi has been better in Vegas in general, but I wonder how the crappier hotels are doing. I don't know. Right, right. We'll find out. People don't hear. That's right.
Starting point is 01:38:38 That's it for us then. Let's get out of here with a song. You got a little something to take us out? I do. Yes. Jamie M., one of our many Jamies that listened to the show, Rodin said, I'm turning 33 and really don't do much to celebrate my birthday. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:38:53 It's a birthday. Damn it. Let's party. I made it under the wire. It's good now. Well done. The time was taken away. But I figured requesting a song is a small way to enjoy my day of birth into this world.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Any cover song from the band Our Last Night that Brian thinks is best works for me. So surprise me. I've been listening since the ELR days and have enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks for all you to do. And wishing every listener out there. I hope they enjoy this song and has an awesome Thursday signed, Jamie M. Well, yeah, happy birthday, Jamie M. And I hadn't really heard of our last night until your request.
Starting point is 01:39:31 And I checked out a bunch of their songs. Hopefully for your birthday, whether it's with substances or just the positive vibes, I hope you stay high. Speaking of which, here's the song, Stay High by Tove Low, or Habits, Stay high. Performed by Our Last Night. Oh, man. Perfect choice. I get home, I got the munchies, binge on all my twinkies, throw up in the tub, then I go to sleep, and I drank up all my money, tasting kind of lonely, you're gone and I gotta stay high all the time to keep you up my mind.
Starting point is 01:40:38 High all the time To keep you with my mind Spend my days Locked in a haze Trying to forget you, babe I fall back down I gotta say I've all my life
Starting point is 01:41:01 To forget I'm missing you at the playground how I'll spend my day time losing up the frown make them feel alive I'll make it fast and greasy I'm numbing way too easy you're gone and I gotta say hide all the time to keep you up a mind Spend my days Locked in a haze Trying to forget to Babe,
Starting point is 01:41:45 I'll fall back down Gotta stay high All my life To forget I'm missing you Staying in my play Pretend Where the fun ain't got no end Oh
Starting point is 01:42:04 Can't go home alone again Need someone to on the pain Staying in a play pretend We're the funny kind of wind Can't go home alone again Need to one and I'm the pain You're gone and I gotta stay high
Starting point is 01:42:30 All the time To keep you up my mind Hi all the time to keep you up for mind Spend my days locked in a haste Trying to forget you pay But I fall back down I gotta say hi all my life To forget I'm missing you
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