The Morning Stream - TMS 2486: Dead Media Society

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

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Coming up on TMS, books, the Dead Tree Media Format. No nuts, no dough, and no lieutenant you are. Hat, whip, snakes, scar, words. Moves like Jagger. The tacos are merely okay. Baby nails are sharp do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. No man is a pretzel. I don't like blood-infested me.

Everleigh is a beautiful name. Come on, Eileen, it's the weather robot. We've got a great big poop truck. Convoy. You wasted a dollar on a Zoom? We're leaving on the midnight train to Vegas. Milking robots with Tom. Recommendals, but not the one you're thinking of and more on this episode of the morning stream.

Was he always wearing a hat? He would put it on and switch into his persona of the Hatman and preferred to be called the Hatman. So beautiful, it enhances any decor. The morning stream. Ironic, isn't it? An archangel needs a monkey to get a vision from God. Hello and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, June 28th, 2023.

I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Hello. It's doing some stretches here. And do you ever know, it's like the old man I'm fixing my back stretch? Yeah, that's about it right there. It starts to look like Mick Jagger at the beginning of the music video for Start Me Up.

Maybe he was on to something about starting you up, you know? My back! My back! Keith, would you please fix my back? Where am I? I don't even know what I'm doing. I fell out of a coconut tree. I don't know. I look 150, but I'm only 80.

Well, welcome back to the show, everyone, if you're returning to it. If you're here for the first time, welcome. I would like to start things off today with, well, a couple of things. So here in Utah, we tend to get real weird when something that everyone else loves in other parts of the country when they open here, we lose our effing mind. So when in and out first came, and I know this is true of a lot of places, I think Denver kind of pretty much out. Proof Denver, too, yeah. So we get, in and out was a big one. But the biggest one I ever saw that was the nuttiest was early 2000s when we got

Krispy Kreme for the first time. And people lined up for months. It was ridiculous. Just stupid, dumb, ridiculous. We had people camped out, yeah, at ours as well. Yeah. At least spending the night overnight to be one of the first to get a red neon hot, hot, fresh donut, which.

Mm. It evaporates in your mouth in the first bite. It's not good. Oh, I guess I haven't had that one. I've only had their, like, regular glazed potato-y ones. That's the one. It's just like, it's just nothing. It's like air with a coating of sugar on it.

They're like donuts, if donuts were cotton candy. They just disappear. If you take the dough out of the nuts, there's no dough. No nuts, no dough. But anyway, so that was a big deal. And then the more recent one was this canes near us. I think we talked about it on the show. was just in raising kings yeah bonkers everybody was everywhere for that and now that's kind of back

with uh post malone's location he opened up in midtown and everybody freaks out over there but i thought i had seen it all until uh unbeknownst to me jack in the box open here now i'll be honest i thought jack in the box is already here i didn't know they weren't here i would have too if you would have said uh are there jacking the boxes in utah and it said of course there are there have to be i was 100 sure there were so when people were saying this i'm like wait a minute i've been to these And really what I'm thinking of is Vegas, California, Oregon once. Like, I've been to plenty of jacks in the box. That's how you would say it, too.

It's like AirPods Pro, not AirPods Pro's. Oh, right. AirPod pros, they are AirPods Pro. Air pods pro, because the pods are the pro part, and they're multiple, so it's the pods, not the pros. There's a government. There's like a secretary's defense. or something like there's like a there's one where it's like uh oh um i know this yes it's something like that that's like a attorneys general thank you my court yes attorneys general yes yeah because

there's more attorneys not more generals they're not they're not generals yeah and there's no like even in that use case like how is adjourn generals even yeah we this is good this is good english so so jack's in the box is what they would be referred to sure uh you know they've got their place i suppose I've never really had a good experience at one. Famously in Vegas, I saw a guy shooting up in a men's toilet. So I've seen some dark business happen there. And just never really thought much about it. It's just like, oh, crappy food, whenever it's another fast food place.

That opened up and everyone lost their minds. There's still, to this moment, I believe, there are people wrapped around blocks for this. How long have they been open? Just like a day or two or something? It just happened. gosh okay and the video started flowing out and became a little viral ended up on some national news so a bunch of people have seen us freak out about this but i cannot for the life and we figure out why we care that much about jack in the box i don't get it because they're famous for just kind of being not great the tacos are weirdly okay mediocre i mean they they shut down was it here that somebody found like blood and the meat and the taco like the the the meat was so undercooked it was actual blood human blood well no i think uh cow blood i don't know i guess i guess you test it to see let's see hold in a second i mean i don't want any blood to be honest but some some for some reason cow blood sounds better than

human blood but i i hope i'm i hope i'm right yeah 1993 here it was uh oh god yeah this okay this was seattle um jack in the box uh sued over tainted meat the fast food chain was accused of serving tacos smeared with hepatitis-infected blood. So that is human blood then. Gross. Gross. Ugh, yes. How did they, I guess they tested it to find out about that. I guess they tested it. I have no idea. But I remember that was like, that was 1993 and that sunk the company.

Like, should have sunk that company forever, really. Yeah, that should have been in. That's a hard thing. Even I still have it in my mind 30 years later to think about, you know, blood-infested or blood-tainted meat. Blood-infested, it's horrible. Blood infestation. But it makes me, you know, it's seriously, it makes me reconsider. It's like, oh, well, there's a Taco Bell right by the target.

The only time I think I've been to that Taco Bell in the last five years was to do the, is it too early for a fish sandwich drive-thru bit that we did? Oh, right. Jack in the Box was one of those. That was one of your deals. Do we know which one, this audio? this right here came from let's see hey uh is it too early to get a fish sandwich do you remember which one we capped there no there's no way i could because i'd said that same thing at all of them yeah it was exactly the same

how would you do exactly like that could have been any of the four or five what do we do i did uh burger king macdonald's uh jack in the box wendy's jack in the box so it's four four total is that that was it Yeah. Or did I do an Arby's as well? Did I sneak an Arby's in there? No, I don't think I did. They have the meats, so you'd try, you know, you'd think. But do they have the fish meat that early is the question? No, I don't know.

But all I know is I'm not getting in line for this. I don't, do not care. No, no, I wouldn't care. Yeah, what's the point? It's Jack in the box. Seriously. The other thing we, well, we're going to talk, if we get to it in the news, we'll talk about it. But there's a possibility of, um, so the state of Utah has put $500,000, half a million

into this research project to see the viability of having a light rail passenger train from Salt Lake City to Vegas. Oh, really? Yeah, which is super interesting to me because, I mean, when I go there, I'm just riding. I'm in the car, you know? Why wouldn't we do it this way? Does Kim do all the driving, like, when you drive to Vegas? Oh, she hates when I drive.

I'll do occasionally if she's super tired. I know, you know, you know, the short little drives, she drives because you'll fall asleep. I guess it's probably even worse on long drives like to Vegas. Oh, yeah. No, short drives actually aren't a problem. But if I go more than 30 minutes, that's where I start getting really sleepy. I blame my parents. They drove me around to calm me down when I was a baby, and I swear that's what does it.

But anyway. It's just got a little binky in the backseat. I'm just problematic road tripper when it comes to driving. I just am. So when people talk about self-driving cars or a light rail thing, I get, I kind of perk up and go, ooh, I'll sleep anyways. I'll just sleep on that. No kidding. I would love that.

Wouldn't that be cool? I think I'd fly to Salt Lake City and take the train to Vegas just to be able to sleep on the train all the way to Vegas. Just have this chill, chill ride. I like a good train, too. And I really like that drive is beautiful. So if the train, train wouldn't be right along the highway, obviously, but it would cut through a bunch of those mountains and canyons and just a beautiful area. It would be amazing. So I'm kind of hoping they do it.

I would love it if they didn't. I'll say this. Thinking about the length that that thing has to be, how many miles that thing has to be, and how much work it is to do that, I'm going to go on the record here and say, I don't think we're going to see this in our lifetime, Scott. I'm unfortunately with you there.

I don't think they do it soon enough. I don't think it either it doesn't happen or I don't think it's finished by the time we're young enough to really enjoy it. Maybe in our lifetimes, You know, they'll have to wheel us on there, and I don't know where I am. Where's what, Vegas train? What? Do you remember this Star Trek hotel?

By the way, it's five hours, 45 minutes, or 421 miles. That has a lot of train track, 421 miles. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, you don't do that overnight. You don't do that in a year. No, no. I don't know if that'll happen.

But there's a bunch of talk about it. People are excited. They've got to carve. They've got to somehow go through that whole Arizona corner, a mountaine, caverny region that... Oh, yeah, right. How do you even do that? Gerudo Village. You'd have to cut a new hole, right?

You'd have to cut a new hole. That would have to almost be, that would almost have to be like tunnel business. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they can just do it next to the road. You can't like, gru-reur-year-re-re-you-it's good. Yep, just to cut a tunnel through there with a giant boring thing. and you're good. All right.

Also here we got a shout out to a listener who I just would like to, I haven't been able to check in, so I don't know what the status of things are this morning. But somebody wrote in and says, hey, Scott and Brian, I've been listening since about 2012. And I just wanted to ask for a shout out for my amazing wife, Ashley, who is in labor right now? Now, as of yesterday at like mid-afternoon is when I got this. So she was in labor yesterday afternoon. And it has been most of the day. They're telling our daughter may not be born until tomorrow morning or a little later.

so she could be still in the throes of it this very moment. She could be still in labor right now as we record this, geez. Yep, he says she's the love of my life and such an amazing, caring person. She's extremely strong and still tough seeing her in pain like this. Anyway, I just wanted to shout out for the most important person of my life in our newest edition, Everleigh

Maeve Healy. This is Michael Healy who sent this in. Everleigh is a beautiful name. Or Everly. Is it Everley? Everlylele. Either way. It's very nice. Yeah, Janet Lee pronounced it, L.E.I.

like Janet Lee spelled L-L-E-I-J-H-H-L-L-E-H-L-L-A-L-A-L-E. And also I wanted to say I almost forgot when you said blood infestation. That sounds like one of the abilities for my Necromancer in D-L-A-L-A. I was going to say it feels like an A-O-E. I need to put some points into blood infestation when I get out. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, thank you, Michael Healy, and I really hope Ashley's doing well, and the baby's good, and you guys are hopefully by now you're all set and sitting there and enjoying your little family, I hope.

But, yeah, we don't always give a little top-of-the-show-outes, but that one deserved it, I believe. Then I got an amazing, a fantastic phone call about the tallest buildings in the world, and this is based on our half-hast discussion this week. We had that whole section

of tallest buildings, remember that? I do remember that, yes. So here's the call. I'll just play it. If I can pull it up, there it is. This is about Dubai and some other stuff, and it's fascinating. Anyway, here you go.

I'm sorry, I'm bored. Listen to TMS this morning, specifically the tallest building section of the half asses the current world's tallest building the birch caliphal was mentioned knowing that the basis of t ms is brine and poop joke i thought i combined the two of you the two of them for you as a fun fact the tallest building of the world virtually caliphah is not connected to dubai sewage system every day a caravan of tanker trucks lines up at the base of the birch to be filled with seven tons of human waste to be trucked the way quite the mental and olfactory image i think you search youtube for poop trucks you'll find

a few videos on this still love the show after all these years terry z in chicago all right i love his oh terry z yeah after after emails and uh messages and that sort of thing i think it might be the first time i've heard terry z's voice i think so too he's he's a mainstay on my twitter feed just constant replies yeah mine too yeah so it feels feels cool to finally get one step closer to meeting Terry Z. That's right. Holy cow. So they just haul the,

haul the birge poop. Yep. Burge poop out daily. Can you imagine that? That seems crazy to me. How do you have the most tallest building? Also, seven tons. How many people must be on that building?

That's crazy. And then also, what kind of money do you have? Well, whatever. They have unending money in Dubai. Yeah. Which makes it even crazier that,

I mean, was it a, you can you can you can you can run up a sewage line anywhere okay if you have enough money you could run a sewage line anywhere and you like that the burge gleefe is not so far out of out in bfee that uh they couldn't run a sewage line there that's insane yeah and the trucks them saw oh here's video this is cool holy moly so i'll let me put this in the truck, Burge poop truck. It's something they really did not cover in the movie entrapment

with Sean Conner and Catherine Zeta Jones. No, it didn't come up. It didn't come up in when Tom Cruise is swinging off of it and that goes protocol deal or whatever the movie was called. Oh, that's it, huh? These are all, the poop snake. These are all, the poop snake is just one big convoy of trucks and their whole job

is to show up every day and eliminate this waste from that giant building. You'd almost think that they could run a train from the Burge Caliphah somewhere If they can't do underground sewage and underground pipe, then why not? It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

This looks like the line to the taco or the, sorry, the jack in the box that I saw yesterday. Anyway, that's kind of a cool thing. And it's filled with the same material. Yeah, it's just primordial version of the same thing. That's right. Exactly, yes. Anyway, thank you for that call. That's awesome.

All right, Brian, you got an email. I want to hear about this. I did. Yeah, so listener, Steph, who was out here for a while. She worked here in Denver at the K-9 Aqua, like basically have a treadmill for dogs that is submerged to help build their joints, build their strength and stuff. Our dog Ruby, we took there prior to when Steph worked there, but it was such a cool place. They submerged them entirely or do they give the dog, how does the dog breathe? Their head's out of water.

Oh, they're heads out of water. Yeah. I'm picturing like full submerged, submerge a dog with like, you know, scuba gear. Like scuba gear. All right, that makes sense now. Anyway, sorry. Yeah. So she worked here and we got to, like, on her way out of town, basically the last couple days she was here.

We finally had a chance to meet with her and went to a really good vegan place in the Highlands. Anyway, she wrote in. and she is now official she says as an official licensed and working yay physical therapist i can confirm that uh my brain's physical therapist heard my little toot oh man so that means they hear it all the time uh you're not you're not only you're not unique in this way but the doctor but the physical therapists always hear it right that's always always hear it and and uh i'm sure she's just trained or she's just figured out that the best thing

to do is to not draw any attention to it, move along to pretend it didn't happen. Yeah, I could see that. If I was working in there and that started happening a lot, what's the point of pointing anything out? Like there's no value on it. You're just going to embarrass the patient. So what's the point?

Why do it? Yeah, plus it's just a natural human thing. It's all right. It's a natural thing. It's only natural. Yeah. Nobody's is. As Tim and Neil Finn saying. everybody farts and if you don't fart get looked at because you're going to have problems yeah that's a that is an issue if you don't fart you'll die you'll not rats don't fart and that's why the rat poison kills them i wonder what we'd eat that we'd we go get one gordita or whatever and be dead by four o'clock you know right so fart is good fart is your fart is good let it out let it out better out than in is uh fat bastard always said that's right um all right i'm thinking done away now that's who's on my mind yeah um and also one of you you guys got to call in and uh see if you're going to be on today's thing right we need a contestant um oh also it's tom's birthday so when he gets here we have to make a big deal out of it okay all let's hide and then when uh we call tom we'll all jump out and you'll surprise

yeah we got to make a big whip out of it um but anyway that's all coming up uh after after this but brian's going to join the call one of you's going to call in here too if you want to be a part of babel royale pop into the discord and send me a DM if you do that uh live listeners then you could be the winner and the participant today and uh don't always not answering so that's good he's not answering he's not in the uh the feud game either is he forgotten that it's wednesday does he is did he get hit by the hump on hump day i don't know i guess uh let's see we'll try this again uh yeah i don't i talked to him yesterday but he didn't say anything i didn't say anything about today's show but he oh he says almost there had a meeting oh he's coming these effing meetings he's a common

I mean, these things, this work thing he has. That's right. Freaking, what matters more to you, Brian? Putting food on the table, paying your mortgage and taking care of your family, or hanging out with your friends. Exactly. Come on now. Take a, pick a side. Pick a lane.

Is it work or us? Make your decision. Come on now. Yeah, come on, man. Don't rub your eyes, Scott. I saw that. Oh, it's just over here. If I do it here, then it makes, see, I can make my eye move.

And it sort of scratches it without touching it, see. Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah. See? We learned so much, by the way, from Dr. Tolbert yesterday. Oh, my gosh. The knowledge bomb.

He must, so he even said, can you tell I, what do you say? Can you tell I lecture on this all the time? That I like you. Exactly, yes. And it was fascinating. Like, the whole poop in the eye myth, thanks to, you know, Jason Siegel and knocked up, uh, blew that myth out of the water. How contagious pink eye is.

Yeah, he says it's not nearly as contagious as everyone tells you. He says it's all based on, like, 1950s school thinking. Yep. And it just never went away. And there's all these, like, preconceptions of what pink eye is. Pink eye isn't even the condition. It's, if you have a pink eye, it's a, it's a, what do you say? He says, not a condition.

It's your membrane over the eye that is getting inflamed or whatever. Yeah. He says the Simpson. I don't know. I can't be expected to remember any of this stuff. That's what Discord's for. It's all a permanent record. now. But he said it's like the symptom, not the, not the actual thing that you have.

And Phoebe might have just given you a corneal abrasion as opposed to pink eye, you know. And she's got the little sharpy nails. Bacterial stuff, exactly. Yeah, that's what they do in their little. Baby nails are sharp. Yeah, she's got scars on her own face from it. Exactly. So I don't know.

I walked away from that feeling like I had been to a really important medical conference. I'm not kidding. Thank you for the TED Talk, Dr. Tolbert. Tolbert, thank you so much. I'll gladly wait in this small room in a tiny little schmock all I wait for you to get here. Exactly. All right, well, Dunaway, still no answer,

but it doesn't mean he's not running over. He might be barely making it. I'll do a little update too on a listener and former A&P contestant, Carrie McGuinness. She was part of season one, if I remember correctly, And anyway, left in the mid-season of the competition. She just got her Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Sociology out in Chicago land area. So congratulations going out to Carrie McGuinness for that.

Awesome. If Wendy ever, you know, something should happen. Right. We have a backup plan for the old therapy Thursday. lot. She is, yep, mush potatoes. She is the blazing caribou woman. That's exactly who she is. I've forgotten her. She was great. Her podcast group or

her, yeah. Oh, I liked her a lot. That's awesome. That's a huge accomplishment. She's probably in the thick of that when we had her, when you had her on, right? She was probably working on this. Yep, she was, yeah. Yeah, they don't do that stuff overnight. According to Denoway's status, by the one, Discord, Discord, Discord. It says

He's playing retroarch is what it says, but that can't be right it's probably just on yeah just on in the background one minute's here he's here he's here he says calling he's picking up he's there he's there ringage there he is there he is right oh this isn't loud hold on hey look who it is brian done away sorry dude I know he got meetings and stuff I hope we didn't mess up hey I am here and they you know it's one of the usually I just like send a notice while I'm like in the meeting and it's like oh it's running long and they're sending a message they were all up in my face talking to me and expecting me to interface like what are you kidding me no yeah i've got to get out of here plus it's lunchtime already why are we waiting why are we having to

lunchtime yeah that seems crazy did they did they talk about that thing you and i talked about i don't know if you can say well they that's one of the things i want to talk about so this is no secret it's all in our company so they're they're talking about moving to a four day 10 hour work week and so i'm like integral into the survey part. So they're dependent on me to make sure that all the answers that are being given are given in such a way that it makes sense. So

that's the reason why I'm involved and it's all a buzz in company. It's like do you go to the five day eight hour or the four tens? Right. Tina does the four tens and she loves it. Really? Brian does five tens every week anyway.

Well, that's not good. You're not supposed to do that. Well, I work at work. you know, eight hours, and then I come home and I do another two hours either streaming or podcasting or whatever. And so all that means to me is that I'm still going to do five-tenths. It's going to be that 10 hours. It's all going to be on Friday. Sweet. Yeah. No, I get that. Well, that's cool. So if you end up doing that, I mean, you know, we'll we'll talk. But it doesn't mess you up for this thing for the Monday Wednesday? No, no. Only when meetings happen. Okay. I mean, because this is only like a little 30-minute thing anyway. So, I mean, I still get a little

lunch. So that doesn't mess with this at all. This is my lunch break. So no wonder you're so skinny. You don't eat. You just talk to us. That's how it does that. I don't know what you're in my mouth. Well, it's good to have you here, man. We're going to dive right in and pull a listener in as well.

This is TechDrum, rock, and roll joining us. Hi. Hello. Welcome to the show. Hello, hello, hello. Hi, it's nice to have you. We're our lucky third caller today. It's nice to have you on that.

I don't think we've ever talked to you before. Is that right? I don't think so either. Do you have a real name? And actually, I've talked to Dunaway a little bit. I'm a drummer in the Greenville area, and I've invited into this show. Oh, no way. Indeed, I've talked several times.

How's it going, Frank? Oh, okay. Cool. Look at that. It's good. Everything's good. Yeah. We was going to try to meet up this past year, and it just didn't work out.

We had all kind of holiday stuff come up, and it was just no good, but maybe this year. We've got a new musical coming up in a few weeks. You'll be getting a message about very, very soon. Yes, please. Bring it on. Because I hated missing last time. I liked doing community stuff. I missed that last year, and I missed the Asheville meetup for the tadpoles on this side.

They're trying to fix that this year. Trying to be more available. Look at this, though. Look what we've done, though. We've inadvertently set up an Intermountain West versus South conference here. Oh, look. I'm just south, South Carolina. That's right.

Represents. All right. Well, let's get to it. We're going to play a game, and tech drum, rock and roll is going to be maybe a winner of some cool prizes. Brian, how's this all work? You have to explain it. Sure. Well, it's time to play the tad pool.

feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's their job to see how many of these answers they can suss out. Tech, drum, rock, and roll. Your job is, yeah, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be

working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes, courtesy of listener Rodney Larson, who sent us a lot of the codes we've been using here for the last couple weeks. um oh tap tap percussion okay i know you're i know you from that too uh soul blight and the amazing american circus oh control your own amazing american circus and then uh eat the world with soul blight

all in one game's package wow that's hell of a value there right there that is a hell of the value awesome well let's play this very good all right if you guys are ready let's go ahead and always ready excellent we asked uh 381 tad poolers to give their best answer to this. What dead media format do you still hold dear? Brian Dunwell. Wow. What, when, I like, I like the, I still like the, oh, but what I'm going to say?

Laser disc, no, just kidding, videotape. Boop. Oh, man. What was that? All right. Show me videotapes. Whatever. Number five.

Whatever Scott Johnson, who goes, um, um, what was the question again? That's what I'm saying. I always get so much heat for that. Today was like that. All right. So that I have room here. This is a little beat it. Scott, what have you got?

So dead media formats. Let's go with, uh, beta. Ooh, beta. Like beta max. Even better than VHS. Yeah. All right. Show me beta max.

Is it going to beat VHS? It's not even on there. Then and it didn't now. So Brian, you have, you have tech drums, rock and roll. and you have control of the board. Tech drums, what name can we call you? Do you have a better name we can call you? I don't know if I have a better name, but my real name is Chris.

Chris, that's much easier. Yeah, much easier. I'm just going to call you Chris. How's that? Oh, I'm very, very creative. I like that. So, Chris, what do you think? You know about the old tech?

What do you think? What's our next guess for that? Do you have one, or do you mean it? It probably depends on what dead means, but I think a lot of people like cassette tapes. I agree. I think people will still have a love for cassette tapes. I said VHA's test. Let's go with cassette tapes.

Yes. Oh, look at this one I have right here. You know what my daughter loves. Coss tapes. Oh, yeah, you've got a VHS tape. VHS tape right here. Yeah. My daughter, Carter, thinks cassette tapes are amazing, and she keeps buying them, and I don't understand why.

Oh, my gosh, really. Yeah. What a fun medium to have 90 minutes of stuff they have to flip over halfway through. Yep. Show me cassette tapes. Yes. Two answer on the board. My last cassette tape I bought was Stranger Things, and I foolishly bought it at FYE.

That's not the foolish part. I foolishly put it into a cassette player in a car that had not seen a cassette, probably in 20 years. And it immediately ate it. That was dumb. Oh, no. That was my bad. But it was still playing the upside down, wouldn't it? I don't know.

Here's the last cassette tape I bought. Right here. Hold on. We pull it up. I got video of view. Where is it? There it is. Oh, look at that.

Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 1. That's awesome. That's perfect. Why wouldn't you get that? I put this on my Zoom and it's awesome. That's really cool. You even got like, you know, Star Lord looked in handwriting of all the song titles.

Aw. I love it. That's great. The song titles, when I was, the last cassette tapes I used, I used to want to listen to things like B.C. Boys and NWA.

Yes. I would make dubs of them that said, Ria Speedwagon, a Fleetwood match, so my parents wouldn't know. Smart. That's great. That's like, you know, labeling your folder of porn on your hard drive, text documents.

That's amazing, dude. We labeled ours nature. What are you talking about? That's really good. That's my favorite thing. It's my favorite thing I've heard all week. Thank you for sharing that. That's really funny.

Okay, so as long as you're talking about the Beastie Boys, we should put it on wax. What do you think? Yeah, my only concern is that that's not really dead, but I think, yeah, vinyl definitely. Yeah, yeah, I think vinyl's the thing. All right. Obviously, our opinion is don't matter. It's what the Tadpool thinks is a dead media format. Does the Tadpool think that vinyl records are a dead media format?

They sure do. Number four answer on the board. I've got a ton of those over here as well. That's a fair thing to call it. And even though it's not dead, it's having a new life, it's still, you know, it died once at least. Right. Yeah, nothing wrong with it. Now, I picked up a, I picked up a Zoom.

yesterday. It was the 8-meg, the little slimmer one, the version two. I picked one of those up at the thrift store for a buck. Did you really? Oh my God. Seriously? A dollar? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's my favorite thing to do. I like going to the thrift store and finding

these old music devices and then seeing what the morons were listening to. Yeah, that irritates me because they didn't clear off their music, right? They never knew. Listen to whatever is still on that Zoom. They never clear it off. I don't know what the story is. It's fascinating. Is it a brown zone?

Of course it is. The one that I'm holding in my hand right here. It's the right zone. The brown zone is the right zone. There's no other zone. It is the right. I thought that was the new black. That's what they said anyway.

Brown is the new black. Give me squirt some music over to you. Right. What about black? Poor black. One came black just be the new black. Chris, I'm having trouble of thinking what could be number one if it's not vinyl in a dead media.

I mean, not. I mean, not. I think mostly on. Oh, go ahead. Oh, yeah, physical photos would be a good one. Right. What do you think? Like, so photos, yeah.

I think we should go with some print, some print photos. Okay. So like, yeah, printed film photography. Let's do it. Yeah, am I being too vague? No, you're not. You are not. Very.

Show me printed film. Oh, son of a blood hole. Somebody did, let's see. Somebody, that's it? Yeah. Number 20 on the list was film photography, printed, printed photos. Wow. I'm a little surprised it's that low. I thought it would be higher. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to guess everyone's still just... Shut up, vinyl revivalist.

Brian's basement is one whole episode of Swedish death cleaning. Listen, it's not, okay? It's an entire series. It's an entire season of Swedish death cleaning. Yeah, it's 24 episodes, too. It's the long one. Like the old style full season. Yeah, yeah. NYPD Blue in the old days. I'm going to go with Laser Disc.

Laser disc. Sure. I do have those. They're out of reach, but I could hold one up. Show me Laser Disc. I knew it's going to be some good points. I was holding off on that one. Dad, God you.

Why hold off? Why not take that? Because I thought photos not a dead meat, whatever. I still have the Star Wars original trilogy on Laser disk and it's the only place digitally you get

the original dead Anakin Skywalker Force Ghost Well there's a there's a dead media well there's certainly a dead media By hidden Christians again I had the VHS version but you're right that's the only I guess digital version right that is still digital Laser disk it was laser disk is still digital for sure So sort of is it analog right but it's digital

Well it's analog red but digital stored isn't it? I don't know how it's not you're not getting an image because a needle is going on the it's a laser disc itself and dragging through a yeah it's laser it's yeah it's got how is it not digital let's see hold on how is that little divvids because I'm with divot I thought I swore that that laser reads it it it reads it from a disc yeah is just instead of having a record needle it just reads the divets yeah it's ones and zeros that makes it digital not analog yeah it's definitely an analog right analog would

analog would mean like you know light through light through film well I think part of us like I think part of it's digital I think the CD part is kind of the music so the right it says the read mechanism is 780 nanometer wavelength semiconductor laser

and then the right mechanism laser on die same right mechanism as recordable CDs and DVDs well those are digital so this has to be digital yeah yeah Brian is right f all y'all um all right where uh i got that right what do i not get right next um let's go with uh mini disc the the the sony mini disc oh oh sure that's nice brian has some of those too i do i don't have one right by me you guys actually have

one closer to you than i have closer to me but it's up on the wall i can't reach it but yeah that's all right all right show me minidisc More big points. Oh, my gosh. Now I'm nervous. Now I'm nervous. Oh, geez. Am I going to run out here?

Unlike most optical disk standards, laser disk is not fully digital or requires the use of analog video signals. Oh, really? So we're both right. So it's not fully digital. Okay. It's a little bit of both, I guess. All right. Let's go with the eight track tape.

Which is exactly what Dr. Calhoun has been shouting in the temple. No one. It's digital. audio and not digital video. Oh, well, he knows stuff. No one loved Aetrek. No one liked A-track, but it still was a dead format, and people will... It is a dead format.

You'll come up with it, so I'm going to say that. Let's see A-Trek. Oh, my gosh. I still somewhere have the Abbey Road, Aet Track, and, you know, that long, like the entirety of Side 2 is one big song, you're going from... She came in through the bathroom window, mean Mr. Mustard, carry that weight, all that stuff. and it goes kachong like halfway through songs in the middle of the songs to the next part of the song and it's horrible horrible thing amazing um show me eight track tapes nobody nobody's still holding those deer well eight people are it was number 12

in the list was eight track tapes when i was picking up that zoom right next to it was one of those old console type record players and it had it had the eight track slot right in front of it Yes. I was like it. Oh, my gosh. Hey, Chris. What do you think? What is number one?

It's got to be something super obvious, right? The chat pool was mentioning a couple that only would be correct if Third Eagle was answering a quiz, and that's papyrus and stone tablet. But I would say, what about real to real? Oh, real. Real. Yeah, yeah. You've got some audio files, maybe, you think? Yeah, let's do some real to real baby.

Yeah. All right. Okay. Uh, show me real to real. Oh, real to real low on the list, uh, 15. Five people said real to real. Okay. Uh, I gotta get in a tadpole brain here.

I can't believe Scott's beatness with this. This is dumb. I know. I know. That's so dumb. Really do something about this. Whatcha? Uh, media formats.

Media format. Well, nobody, it's the whole. Format of media. I think it's the whole dear part that I got a cue in on here. Yeah, that's why I keep. Even though you said photos, you better not give me some kind of, you better not like say like,

oh, but this one counts. What's the thing? The Polaroids probably included in that. I don't know, you probably can't tell me that, can you? I can tell you that Polaroids would be included in film photography. Okay, good, good, good.

So that's in that category. It's a dead format, people. Oh my gosh. What is another damn? format. I missed the days of the scat. Zip disk. The zip disk.

I don't know. I'm running out of stuff. Is that your guess? Yeah, I'm going with zip disks. All right. Show me those cute little blue zip discs. Again, I'm sure I have one of those around her somewhere as well. Show me zip discs.

Number eight. I did see a jazz drive yesterday. I think, yeah, zip and jazz drives. I almost picked up the jazz drive yesterday, but I was like, what the hell am I going to do? Was that also a dollar? Let's see. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. No, you guys can still pull it out if Scott Flub's here.

You know, and I haven't heard anybody say. You'll have to. You'll have to sweep if you get to back or I'll have to sweep one way or the other, which I will try to do now. I don't feel very confident, but I'll try. Okay, dead formats. Let's go, Scott. What do we got here? We got the, would someone have said, would someone have said divix?

Wow. Interesting. But the problem is the whole, whole deer part. No one holds it deer. Like, you know, HD TV and all that, the divix format version thing, that's sucked ass. But everybody thought it was going to be cool and Blu-ray took over. So I'm going to say divics because I have no other ideas. Sure.

All right. me divvix. Second strike. One strike left for each of you. I've seen the chat. I've seen the chat. I've seen the chat. I was going to say. I was going to say, we're focusing on audio and video,

but what about like a newspaper? Oh, that's not bad. Yeah, newspaper. That's perfect for this week. We're playing Paperboy on the Play Retro show. Yeah. Oh, you're really? That's a great game. Paperboy and 720 skateboarding thing. Oh, the skateboard game? 720. Nice. They were both based on the same Atari board, and they both have the weirdest sound

sound quality. I just, that's the one thing I'm going to talk about tonight is how weird does game sound. I can see, I can see some tadpoolers holding dearly with their death grip with the newspaper to the, to the grave. I can see that. We, uh, I think we talked about on this show recently talking about going to, oh no, I was talking with, with, uh, Hammett about it on soundography. There's just something kind of nice sounding about moving somewhere where there's a little mom and pop coffee shop. You go to every morning. You sit there, you read the newspaper, you chat with all the people who, you know, maybe don't agree with you on every topic, but you don't care because there's only like 28 of you in the community and

who cares and you, you've learned about what happened yesterday in the way. Show me newspapers. Oh, son of a, come on, you kidding me? What are the guy going to be kidding me? That was a great answer, Chris. 21st, sir, 21st on the list. No, that's a bunch of B. That's got to run the board.

All right. I'll see if I can do this. He keeps throwing out. I guess is done away. I want to figure this out. All right. I feel like saying, how is it that you guys still haven't figured out the number one answer?

That's what I don't understand. I can't imagine what it is. It's going to piss me off when you say it. Well, I'm going to stay in the computer zone because we've got a lot of computer heads and I'm just going to say floppy drive, floppy disk. Floppy disk. I miss overhead projector wherever that stuff is.

Transparencies. Transparencies, yeah. all right show me oh wait did uh can i get you be more specific on floppy disk oh um oh really show me floppy disc i was gonna say you say five and a quarter what you got to say here three and a quarter some people say five and a quarter and some people say three and a half and i did the right thing and i really missed the five and a quarters but screw those three and a halfs my mom my mom could never my mom could never understand that the the little hard three and a half inch ones were still called floppy disc because they weren't floppy.

Oh, God. I know they weren't floppy. You ever seen there's a video of a guy like, oh, I think it's TikTok or something. He's doing the same thing. He rips open the hard outer shell and flops the thing in the camera. It's like, oh, go, go, go, that's floppy. Yeah. So angry.

I would have given you such a hard time, Scott, if you guys wouldn't have gotten floppy disks because a core daily from, what, a couple days ago shows you holding deer on the, on the thumbnail image, a floppy with doom on it, I think. Yeah, original doom discs. I think it's doomed. It's disc two. I don't have disc one, so I don't know. Oh, no.

Can't install it. Say CDs. Well, the problem is CDs are still a thing, and I don't know if people would have thought of it. Well, the rest of the shit is, too. Yeah. You can still buy floppy disk. Yeah. I know that, like, I almost said game cartridges earlier.

But I don't think that'll work because you still do that for the switch. It's not unusual. What about film because we was watching the Spider-Man movie and was like, why has it started yet? And they were all like, oh, the satellite hasn't uploaded it yet. I was like, huh, all right. Yeah, yeah, right. You're going to wait for me. You're going to sit around and wait for that, eh?

Wait for the clouds to clear up? What's the problem here? Just show the movie. Oh, gosh. I can't think of anything. I know we eliminated papers, but. You should listen to Donno. I have to say, he's pretty smart.

Why say you let him go? You're a pretty smart fella. Wait, which? Say it again, Donaway? What was your thing? Oh, I said several, but I said CDs and film or the two I was bitching about. All right, let's say.

Don't listen to that one. Oh, so CDs sound good. Let's say CDs. I mean, that seems weird. Oh, there we go. Let's say CDs. That's fine. People still buy them, I guess.

All right. Show me CDs. Yeah, number one answer. It's a good answer because, honestly, some of the highest quality music you can hear is going to be on a CD, even better than what you're going to get on streaming. That's a downgrade from what we're getting on CD. Yeah, but it's still like you can go buy CDs. Yeah. But who does?

Right. They're just not a dead. Sure, grandpa, go buy some CDs. Yeah, but calling it a dead media format. Like, it's not us who's the problem. The listeners are ding-bats because it's a dead. It's not dead. Oh, but okay, what real dead media?

I mean, totally dead. Not being produced at all. How many would be on here? Like, two things. Like, oh, I missed the spindle records, the ones that were round like they used to do, like the ones that were cylinders. Remember those? Yeah, like a wax cylinder. Yeah.

That's true. But nobody in here, actually, I wonder if somebody would have said that something wax. I may go like that, like wax cylinder. I miss my gramophone. Tom is in the tadpool says CDs are in a dead format Birthday, birthday boy and technology expert Tom Tom Merritt. That's right. Don't disagree with the guy on his birthday. Show me where I put a CD in my 2023 car because

Or in my 2023 computer, really? Right. Yeah, it's not like it's common, but I don't know. It's not dead. All right, let's go with microfish. Oh, or microfilm. microfish or film or any of that micro sure microfish all right show me yeah show me microfiche damn it oh yeah sorry listen I can only help you so much I know is somebody gonna say iPod I'm be pissed if they do stuff like that uh no but man what is the what is the movie equivalent of compact discs uh DVD blu-ray

DVDs, number six on the list. But they still have these, Walmart's got a whole bucket full. Oh, there you go. That actually should answer the question. Because Walmart still has it. It must be a life. They have binels too. What's your point?

Yeah, exactly. All right. Number seven. You can tell when a media format's dead because I stopped buying it. Like I switched to only buying digital MCU movies. And those are the only things I buy. The only movies I buy are the MCU movies because I want the bonus content. stuff, but I've stopped buying

the DVDs and Blu-rays, surprisingly. And then finally, number seven, Amy would like this one a lot. Books. Books. Because people are getting your audible.com, your audio books. Although, I wouldn't know.

I'm a hundred percent sure. A lot more in danger than books. I agree. Yeah. That seems like an odd one for them to pick. You still go buy books, no problem. They're everywhere. Tom says, I have a problem with the definition of dead in this list. About half this list is still like. And Tom, you're learning the difference between real life and the tab. And the tab.

I just picked up an HD DVD player from the place this other day. Why? Why? For my 360. For those two HD DVD movies I have that I've been wanting to throw away forever. Let me guess one of them is Batman begins because everybody had that. I'm trying to remember now. Is it like Armaged? And, oh, what the heck was it?

I remember Batman Begins was a huge deal. It's probably Batman Begins or something like, or Spider-Man or something like that. If I had a guess. I need to drive down to your thrift stores. Dude, it sounds like you've got a way better thrift store than any of the ones we have here. That's sad ass. You walked out of there with a Zoon for a dollar. Give me a break.

A dollar, baby. Damn it. Yeah, I'm heading down there tomorrow, buddy. Do it. Come on, Chris. We'll do it. Every Goodwill right now has a Zoon for a dollar. Oh, don't go to Goodwill.

They ship all the goodwill to, like, the corporate offices, and then they sell that stuff on eBay. Oh, that's true. Do they really? I didn't know that. That's right. You got that little wind-up Fisher Price record player was Goodwill eBay. And then they try to act all dodgy whenever I asked them if that was what was going on. So where do you go to?

Is it Arc where you're at? I don't know. There's a local place. It's just called thrift store? Yes, it's called thrift store. I'm not getting away my sources. Map is the mother? Basically is for the homeless and people who are recovering drug addicts and stuff.

So it's basically set up for that. So now one less of them is going to get to listen to music on a Zoom because you had to be kitchy. He's got his dollar. He's got his dollar. What do you want from me? Gimmicky Dollar Zune. Dollar Zoon. Dollar General.

Real quick, I was going to ask Brian, Ibit, I was going to ask. I was going to tell you, they took my $5 offer on the Casa Bonita thing. They took it. Did they really? I'm sure they did because I'm sure they have a box of those. So one of them's coming here. I'll have it in a couple of days and I'll be happy to share it on the show. Look for it in a thumbnail of a TMS coming soon.

Guaranteed. Let's see. Going down the rest of this list, game cartridges was on the list. It was actually number 11, even though, you know, game cartridges still use them in the switch. It tracks, we talked about MP3. People say is a dead format. I mean. Whatever.

You're all listening to this. You're all listening to this right now in an MP3 format. And even you live listeners are listening to it with the same codec and the exact same bit rate. So don't give me this MP3s are dead bullcrap. You're not wrong. iPod number 14. So, Brian, you're dreading the iPod. Adobe Flash, there, my friends.

Oh, now that's a dead media format. That is a true dead media. You have to literally bring a computer from the death to play that. It will be able to play Adobe Flash. Betamax number 17, HD, DVD, number 18. Blu-ray, separate from DVDs. CyQuest. I was trying to remember what a CyQuest drive was.

I don't remember that. I didn't have one at one time. Yeah. Blueprints. Tiger handheld games. Those are dead format. Compact Flash, firewire. Not really a dead media format, but I appreciate the effort.

Yeah. Gramophone cylinder, kind of what you were talking about. One person just says, I can't be bothered. I can't be bothered. Yeah, Mr. Fiche was on the list. Number 43, tied for one person said it. Tied for one.

Microfish. Let's see. PSP disks. Yeah. Rupert Murdoch. Tony Memory Stick Pro duo. Oh, true story. One person said that, but I, you know, you got to.

That hurts. But you feel it. It was terrible for me. And then one person just responded, what do you consider dead and i think that that person might have been tom here i think tom might have you may have slipped that in last second he wants a second survey just for him that's right exactly uh fun stuff one way or the other but the sad news is here's the sad news and i have i have music for this when this happens doesn't happen very often but here it is well that's not it

that's not it that's it right there but don't worry there's always the future and you were a real treat to have on so my guess is we'll have you on again uh how do you feel about your horrible loss. Well, of course, I'm crushed and it's going to ruin the rest of my day, but I'll survive. You know, it'll be all right. I'm even in a couple hours to go to the beach, so I'll be on. Oh, but then you're

doing better than us. You've won already. Yeah. Who's the winner here? You. Done away, I'm going, I play a show for 4th of July, Northportal Beach. Oh, nice. So we get on to do rehearsal for that, and so, yeah. Nice. That's good, man. Be safe down that way. Yeah. Play free bird. Play free

I didn't mean to cut them off. Play for you, Byrd. He'll contact me later. Yeah, he will. Hey, Dunaway, we'll contact you later too because at 3.30 Mountain tonight after I get off of the Daily Tech News show, you and I were doing a little show called Play Retro. And tonight's all about Paperboy in 720, these two Atari board two machines that were the staple of my early, my late junior high, early high school years. I love Paperboy so much, but I've heard from so many people, they played it on the NES, which I think is a tragedy because. personally, the arcade just decimates the NES version, in my opinion.

But I get it, nostalgia. That's where you're at. It is what it is. Wherever you played it, you played it. We'll talk about all those versions tonight. I'm excited about it. That would be 330 Mountain Time here at frogpans. TV, or if you'd rather just listen to the podcast or check out the video archive or any of that, go check out frogpans.

com slash play retro and all the links are there. Done away. State or die. A really nice day. Bye now. All right. all right he's gone we should do a song and then when we come back we'll have tom merit here and um we'll probably have a comment or two about dead formats and also whatever else is on his mind

sure we will yes exactly and uh by the way done away the right thing to do by the way would be to send uh uh chris a k tech drum rock and roll your dollar zune that that you know to apologize for for failing him you should send him your dollar zune just saying yeah um let's get to our song or India in the middle here. This is a band. Where are they from? These guys are, they're called Valley. Mickey Brandelino, Rob Lasker, Kara, James, and Alex DeMorrow. There's an ease to music from Valley, the alt-pop project out of Canada, and discovering their music is like uncovering a hidden gem, says,

Consequence of Sound. I agree. This is some fun stuff, actually. And this is the brand-new song from their new album Lost in Translation. here is natural. You don't have to talk. I hear your thoughts don't have to say nothing. Had a broken heart until you healed it. Even when it's tough, you're still enough. I wouldn't change nothing.

People search the whole life just to feel this. They could play games till they're giving it up. Take what they take But it's never enough We're on the same page This city is superficial But baby we're natural Without even thinking

And maybe without you Would only be breathing Yeah baby we're natural Like still is sobbing We're fibrin Not even trying Like country in Nashville Oh maybe we're natural

you don't have to go just stay in bed and rest your head on you we can't lay forever in this moment because we can play games but we're better than that and take from each other instead of giving it back but on the same way this city is superficial but baby we're not true without even thinking and living without you would only be breathing yeah baby we're natural like psilocybin with fapid not even try it

you know like country in nashville or maybe we're neutral Like country in Nashville Oh, baby, we're natural And you've got to think When you look at me to see, yeah Because baby we're natural Without even there And living without you

Would only be breathing Yeah, baby we're natural Like a silly stipend, we're fiving I don't even try it You know Like I'm trying in Nashville Oh baby when I try Wait, are you gaming

On a Chromebook? Yeah, it's got a high-res 120 hertz display Plus this killer RGB keyboard And I can access thousands of games Anytime, anywhere Stop playing. What?

Get out of here. Huh? Yeah, I want you to stop playing and get out of here so I can game on that Chromebook. Got it. Discover the Ultimate Cloud Gaming Machine, a new kind of Chromebook.

Soon after you dial the number you want, you will hear this tone. That's the ringing signal, an interrupted burring sound. It depends on you. And we're back. Who was that song? Sure.

That song was a song called Natural by a band called Valley from their brand new album, Lost in Translation. Nice. It's a good movie, too. I'm sure it has nothing to do with it. It's a very good movie. And at the end of their song, Bill Murray whispers something into Scarlett Johansson's ear, and we'll never know what it is. Oh, man.

There's probably something dirty based on recent events. Sure. Sure it was, yeah. Somebody asked, oh, you know what? It's a shame. Scarlett Johansson's in the new Wes Anderson movie, but for the first time in 15 films, Bill Murray wasn't because he was sick. Bill Murray isn't. No kidding.

Yeah, he was sick and had to drop out. So 15 movies in a row and then bam, no Bill Murray in a Wes Anderson movie. Crazy. It is crazy. All right. Tom Merritt in coming, like a bat out of hell this guy, you know, just come swooping in. Like meatloaf. Oh, not that

bad out of hell. No, different bat. The world of tomorrow will be as cold as sunlight. tuned through photochromic windows come back to reality tom oh he's he's never left it oh wow uh it is tom merritt everybody and he is joining us all the way from los angeles there goes gravity uh mom spaghetti hey check it out it's tom merit and uh you you were in the chat for all of that uh what give us what you think the official definition of a dead format is forgetting the chat pull has their own ideas and it is not lost on my me of it that the game is guess what

people said. Yes, right. Exactly. Sure. But y'all's definition of dead format needs some introspection. To me, a dead format is one nobody's using. Now, it's fair to say like CDs are dying. People aren't using them as much.

They actually are having a little bit of a revival. I put a link to a Billboard story in there that like CD sales are rising. So they may be doing what vinyl did where they sort of came back from their near death experience. but near death is a death. So to be like, yeah, HD DVD, Betamax, those, those are dead because you can't even buy them anymore. Right, right, right. Certainly, if you buy them, you're buying them used on eBay as a novelty. You're not buying them at Target and Walmart.

They're not actively being manufactured by anybody. You can buy cassettes and truck stops across the land. That's true. Yeah. And they're having a bit of a moment. They're having a little moment. Yeah, they're having a moment. I think they have a cool kind of, well, it's literally, the look of it is literally called

cassette futurism, but this concept of multiple moving parts, almost gears, and seeing this stuff move around. There's something about that that really inspires a younger generation to want to get that crap. Maybe if no one is actively making new versions of them. Right, like nobody's putting out VHS tapes, I don't think, anymore. Maybe I'm wrong about that. There might be like a couple small companies, but probably like, you know, like a tongue-in-cheek, like Stranger Things on VHS Just like that Maybe some small

Small spaces But I don't think they're making blank ones Let's see Oh well I have good news everyone You can still buy Maxwell Standard Grade VHS Blank three packs For 27 bucks for a three pack

They'll over night them These are So they must have There's probably something where it's like It's only mostly dead Yeah It's like exactly It could also be

you know, not necessarily for watching TV shows and movies that you've recorded, but there might also be security systems that still require VHS tapes to record. The same reason that there's still Windows 98 out there

in the world. Because there's these companies that can't, for whatever reason, their software is legacy can't be upgraded. Right. It's the reason IE6 lasted so long. Speaking of a dead, that's not really a format, but a dead format. well anyway 78 16s that's a dead format yeah when the last time you saw a 16 record or even

knew it existed that's true even with the vinyl revival i don't hear much about those that's it's all the big stuff so yeah well there you have it uh i knew we'd get it a definitive from tom that's the thank goodness that's only half the reason we like having them on the other half is he's already working on other tech stories that are in the here and now about lots of working functioning formats tom what's going on in the world of technology so we might learn more. I figure we probably talk a little bit about the demise of Stitcher today on DTNS, because you know, when you get podcasters together, how can they not talk about podcasting? But before I talk about that, here, I got the Astro robot yesterday. You did? Oh, really? On Astro, yeah. Oh, my gosh. So this

is the Amazon robot, right? That does all your, walks around and has a camera and does all your shit for you. Well, well defined. Yeah. Here's the thing. I'm not going to even do the free trial of the ring subscription. So it'll be interesting to see what it's good for.

Because I keep running into things like, oh, well, for that, you need the ring subscription. Activate your free trial now. And I'm like, well, I don't want to do that. So there's things like it can just patrol the house. There's another thing that's called Alexa Guard. that you have to have a separate thing activated. And I haven't investigated what that's about. But I'm like, what about if I don't want to sign up for a service?

Is, you know, how good is this thing? Because I think it'd still be a legitimate product, even if you have to sign up for a service. There's lots of things like that, right? Right. But I'm curious if it's worthwhile for something else. So so far I've had it map the house. So it just kind of rolled around and looked in the rooms.

then it had me give it a tour where it would roll into a room and I would say, this is the studio, this is the master bedroom, this is the living room, so that it could put labels on everything. That part was kind of fun. It was just kind of rolling around on its own. This morning, I made it come into the bedroom and read the weather to Eileen. And then when we were done, it just waited for a while. And then eventually after like five minutes, it just took off. And it went back and put itself on the charging. doc. And then a few minutes later, I heard it get up and it came down the hall, went into my studio. And I remembered last night when I had brought it in the studio, it said, oh, I'll have to map this tomorrow at a later time. Like there was some glitch. And it was finishing the map. And then it went back. And I thought it had put itself back on the charger. But when I went and looked, it was sitting looking at the charger, not on the charger. And the screen said,

hanging out in the living room oh oh weird can you can you say things to it like you would to an echo yeah you say astro that's its wake word oh and then it will respond and it's kind of like an echo show in a lot of ways it's got a big big screen you know touchscreen tablet as its face yeah so it'll like do all the things echo show does it can play videos on that it can you know read your flash briefing you know all the things an echo could do okay so it's like mobile echo really yeah at the very least it's mobile echo okay and the price of this thing can recognize you because I can say go find Eileen and we scanned our faces into it so it can go and look until it sees her and go oh there she is oh that's cool wow 1500 bucks 1600 bucks I guess yeah it's not worth the money

at all the only reason we justified the purchase for the show is that we're going to make a bunch of content out of it so I'm going to have it for a few weeks then I'm giving it to Roger then he's going to give it to Sarah she's going to give it to Joe then I think I think we might ended up to Amos's house in Seattle. Sure. So, so yeah,

we're going to, we're going to milk it for all it's worth, but for right now, it's, it's kind of impressive. The thing just rolls around. It's,

it's mostly quiet, although when it kind of goes up off the rug, it makes a big clunk. Oh, really? See? I wouldn't like that. The dog is kind of afraid of it.

We weren't sure if he was going to bark at it or just, today he was like, yeah, I don't want to be anywhere near that thing. I do kind of, I have to say from a design perspective, I like that the screen, they didn't try to make a dog face. They just have this screen that will pivot to you because it knows your face. It will come up and pivot toward you so you can use the thing. I think that's kind of useful. Instead of trying to go all anthropomorphic with animals or something, they said, let's just make this a more easy to use sort of thing. Yeah. The CNET video has it delivering drinks to this guy.

Yeah, there's a cup holder attachment. You can put, it has a little bay in the back. so that's one of those things that makes a great demo but in reality i'm not sure how useful it is because you need a person on the other side to put it in there and go take this to that person and i'm like how often is that really going to be more convenient than something i'm curious about rogers time with it because he's got kids they're not super low anymore but it will be a a good test of durability probably and and that sort of thing oh and they're talking here about how it gets around cords or if it gets snagged on something it knows to slow down that's cool I mean it's easier to dunk on stuff especially because it's Amazon but I

don't know I kind of like this stuff I set it up with some some hurdles we have rugs you know so the rugs of various length on and the hardwood floor I left a sliding door partially open so it would look like it could go through even though it probably couldn't get over the lip into the porch and it didn't it looked and it was like oh yeah I can't do that. I left a couple of doors partially open. One of them, it just didn't go into that room. Still hasn't. The other one was my studio where it kind of looked in and that's where it was like, oh, I can't map that room right now. So it's pretty good at being able to tell what's going on. Yeah. Interesting. Well, you know, the first of probably many of these devices, one would assume.

Is there, oh, these guys put a, sorry, I just realized how they're getting footage. They put a GoPro on the back and that's how they're doing it. I was thinking it came with that. It doesn't come with that. It does have a camera on the front and it can like periscope up. So the one of the things you can do is remotely say like, hey, go into the living room and it knows what the living room is because you've taught it that and it can go in there and then you can see what's going on. So unlike just a stationary security cam, you can send this thing to different places in your house. Maybe one of these days, we've talked about this before. One of these days, this stuff will get so good that we will no longer ridicule Rocky 5 for that robot they bought that kid you know what I mean

because they're getting close yeah this isn't that close but they're I doubt it's I don't think you can ever stop ridiculing the the stupid robot from Rocky 5 it's pretty bad I think it really looks like something out of black mirror yeah I'm kind of getting that vibe too I just watched the new season so I'm in the mood and I totally get that vibe out of this thing you put some you put some like serious music behind this view behind its head as it's moving through the house and you get yourself a horror movie. One of the reasons I don't, I want to see if it's useful without subscribing to ring or adding it to another service is by all accounts, everything is happening on device.

So it is only sending your voice messages after the wake word to the cloud for processing. Everything else is, you know, images and everything are staying on device unless you ask for it to go to your app. but of course if you connect it to one of their cloud services then all bets are off right so I'm curious if it's useful within the more private privacy protecting sphere that that's outside a ring right the good news is if you're paranoid about these sort of things and don't trust these companies you don't have to spend the $1,500 to get one you can just avoid it and never have it oh sure yeah yeah you don't have to trust anything no you can not leave your house yeah you know what's cheaper buy a bunch of tinfoil out of the you know out of the roll and make a little hat out of it like a hat for every room yeah and call it your astro hat and you're spent what 15 cents you're good well anyway we'll talk about this and much more including this the demise of stitcher later today on the daily tech news show 2 p.m. Mountain time everybody should tune in and check it out if you haven't already Tom is there anything else happening that you would like to inform people of?

I know there is. What is it? Oh, we didn't officially say Happy birthday. Oh, happy freaking birthday. Woo! You didn't on the show. We did it separately.

You love 20. There will be pie. So there's, that's coming. I'll be over in an hour. Apparently there's two pies. Oh, what? What?

Yeah. I got up and Eileen's like, what do you want to do in your birthday? And I said, I want to eat pie. Can you go get me pie? She's like, already taken care of me and Kristen. ordered two of them. I'm like, oh, okay.

Nice. They know you. They also know that you're a simple guy like us. You just pie's great. Yeah, that's all I need. Pie and a trip to the pub. Yeah. That'll make my birthday happy.

So yeah. But, oh, the big thing that we're pushing is our effort to get Molly Wood on the show every month. She's going to be on Friday. We've had enough progress to get her on Friday, but we really, really want to get to that goal of five. thousand, I'm sorry, 4,000. I made it to 1,000 paid patrons. So I know a bunch of you have already signed up or have been signed up for a long time. But if you haven't, and you like hearing me and Molly talk about tech, by all means, get in there. Patreon.com slash DTNS. Thanks,

everybody. Thanks, Tom Merritt. Have a great day and we'll see you a little later. Enjoy the pie. Yeah, enjoy the pie. All right. We're putting this the way it's supposed to go and then remove them from the group and it didn't reboot. All right. Hey, yay. We did it. All right, let's get Randy in here. Nicole is driving.

Unable to be with us today. However, Randy is not driving. He's not. He did earlier, I'm sure, but he is not now. Not now. Whoa, that doesn't play like what I want to do. Well, what do you recommend? All right, that music indicates that we're going to do recommendals.

We take stuff from streaming services, and we share them with you because we think they're worthy of your time and uh helping us do that today is one randy jordan hi randy good morning morning stream what a pleasure for you to have me it's a beautiful beautiful morning here in southern california yeah so so wonderful do you miss canada how are you feeling about all that yeah of course yes always sure always miss canada somebody somebody in our community thought you were uh they were all confused they thought you were a canadian and they just had never heard it before I'm like, no, he's lived there a couple times, vacations there quite a bit,

his wife is from Canada, but Randy is not Canadian. He was born in Texas, yo. Yeah, so I'm one of those weirdos who adopts a place after not enough time there. But I'm just really, really, I'm just really still hung up on the tadpooly feud. I just want to say,

I just want to say, I would have gotten like nine out of those 10. And the reason why is because I learned a long time ago to take the question that was of the tadpool and simplify it as much as possible. So when you first said the question in my brain, I went Hey, Tadpool, name an

old media format. And then boom, got them. Wow. So you've got, you have a trick. That's a cool trick to everybody. You figured out the Tadpool formula. Yeah. It's mostly, you know, I'm in the tad pool. They're my people. Yeah, they're good people. They're good people. All right,

well, excellent. Let's get straight to it. Brian, we're going to start with you as we always do. I got a clip here, but you'll have to set it up. I have no idea what we got. I will set this up. This is a movie, a 2009 movie, and setting the stage, we're on a boat. We're on a boat. We're on a boat. All right. I got my flippy floppies on. Let's see what we got here. Down, you want to give me a hand, please? Well, actually, Victor, I'm a guest to the captains, but yes, I will help you. Victor, what was that back there at the harbor? What?

Well, I asked Jess if she was all right, and you said no. Well, you told me she was bringing a little boy along. Yeah. So when I was walking with in the harbor, I asked where he was. She couldn't remember. She just stared into space for like 20 seconds, and then she said he's at school. So? What's Saturday? There ain't no school today.

Her son goes to a special need school, and it's open every day. Be nice to her. All right, all right. So, do you buy sunbat together? Sometimes. The champagne's not great, but it is called. One time. Thanks.

Okay, more for me. Hey, how are you feeling? Sorry, I didn't realize how tired I was. You apologize one more time, and I'm going to throw you over for you. That sounds like Chris Pine. It is not, but it's Liam Hensworth, who's also kind of handsome. Yes, listening to a whole bunch of Australian people sound American. right there. Every single person

you heard there is an Australian or New Zealand actor actress who is pulling off an American accent. This is a 2009 psychological horror film called Triangle. Not Triangle of Sadness, which also takes place on a boat.

Sure. This is triangle. This was recommended to me a while back as far as a time loop movie that takes things in a very different direction. And I couldn't agree more.

This is a, well, say it again, it's a time loop movie. It's basically if you combined Groundhog Day with, um,

a serial killer and a mind bending situation, kind of like primer. The time travel movie primer that I really like. You're ticking all my boxes here. This sounds great. Yeah. Yeah.

It is, um, there's, there's, there's a lot of stuff that I'd like to say that would kind of give things away but the primary thing is that

you've got a time loop situation that adds a very unique characteristic that you don't see in a lot of time loop movies in very few time loop movies and I won't say what that is because it is a very

it's an incredible moment when you discover what it is but you've got a you've got a bunch of kids on a boat, a bunch of kids, I mean, they're in their 20s. One of them is Melissa George, who you probably know from Alias, the British woman or Australian woman that was a rival of sorts, even though she worked in the same agency, she was a rival of sorts to Sydney.

She was also in Dark City as a sex worker. Love Dark City. She's been in a lot of things. She's great. I adore Melissa George. Well, you weren't kidding, dude. Everybody in this, I'm just. going down the list, but they're all Australian.

Gosh, dang. I had no idea this exists. Yeah, same. Yeah. Yeah, I had no idea until somebody recommended saying, hey, if you like, I think it was after I did my time travel, no, time loop. Oh, I haven't done a time loop episode of a film sack bonus, which is coming in August. Just a little preparation for that, that it's another genre that I want to talk about.

And I will talk about this film a lot then. Sure. but you've got a bunch of 20-somethings on a boat there's a boat mishap and they're saved by seemingly a ghost ship and it's the events that transpire on the ghost ship with a strange serial killer that give this movie its weight it is a it's a very dark groundhog day dark like groundhog bad day yeah i always when whenever this subject comes up, I always think of 50 first dates because it's a movie that tries to, it tries to make a time loop for only one person. And that person isn't actually technically in a time loop. They're just aging like everybody else. And they just don't know it, that one person, right? Fifty first dates is the is the reverse groundhog day, basically. Yeah, exactly. And I just always think about that like, why, there should be more movies that kind of like

lean that direction because it's very very interesting but go ahead you know all this is interesting as this director also did creep and severance these are movies that are not the ones you think they are and he's and then triangles another title that's been used a thousand times he's the director of titles that everyone uses that's

what he makes right it's not it's not the same severance and it's not the same it's not the same the Narls Barclay or the TLC creep or the radio head creep or he has this movie called Schindler's list but it's not the one you think It's not the one you think it is.

Yeah, crazy. Anyway. Anyway, go into this with as little knowledge. You know, me saying time loop is about as far as I want to go into this. It is a, you know, there's some blood. There's significant amount of gore. It is a horror film. And it's available on Shutter, AMC Plus, and Peacock with ads.

Although if you have paid cock. Paid cock. What? Well, there's paid cock. What do you call it? Paycock. Paycock. I think it's Paycock, yeah.

That's how you do. If you have paycock, you just get it at the beginning and whatever. Moneycock. Money cock. Right, exactly. That's where we're looking. Money cock. Really, I want to hear from people who see this.

And immediately, I want to know if you did what I do and immediately go find someone who has diagrammed this movie out. because that's that's almost what you need I did you buy it I did I did I found I found diagrams of yes which is great and it's not a triangle as you might think because you think that would be a really easy diagram for a movie called triangle it would be a triangle

yeah that'd be simple anyway 2009's triangle starring Melissa George and very very briefly Liam Hemsworth all right yeah he's way down on the list I wondered why that was you get them you get them I mean there's you know there's

seven people in the the film and so you see those seven people a lot but um uh melissa george is is so is featured in so much of the film because you're seeing all this through her eyes that uh you don't uh you don't get a lot of the other characters well if brian's if this week brian was the untolds movie uh host now let's roll over to the the classics with randy randy what are we doing here set aside and next week you've just made me decide what I'm going to recommend next week. It's going to be a time of a movie that I feel like everybody should rewatch every four years or so. But right now, we're going to.

He's a 50 first date? Just kidding. Right now we're going to, I don't know. We're going to talk about something that you should watch because it's extremely timely to do so. And you have a selection of things that you could watch in this timely fashion. And this is the best one, and it's out there. And you're going to, I hope you're going to recognize it. I pulled what is either the best scene from the movie or the worst scene from the movie,

depending on your perspective, I think. And I just, I love this movie. All right. Here it is. How will we recognize this, Dr. Schneider, when we see him? I don't know. Maybe he'll know us. Dr. Jones?

Yes. I knew it with you. You have your friends. father's eyes. And my mother's ears, but the rest belongs to you. Looks like the best parts have already been spoken for. Marcus Brody? That's right.

Dr. Elsa Schneider. How do you do? The last time I saw your father, we were in the library. He was very close to track him down the night's tomb. I've never seen him so excited. He was as giddy as a schoolboy. Oh, Attila, the professor? He was never giddy.

even when he was a school boy. This clip belongs in a museum, dad. I agree. He was never giddy even when he was a school boy. I love that. This movie, of course, this is Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade, the third of the Raiders of Lost Ark movies.

In my opinion, better than the first two, which is, I mean, it's debatable. Everybody can have their thoughts. No one will argue that it's better than two, but I feel like you'll probably get some fight with with one uh and it's a hard it's a hard thing even for me to put one and three i'm just glad three exists right like one was one is a revelation two is something i enjoy but i know it's not as good as the other two and three is like okay we're okay it's it's we're back to full form here

it's four where things get real rough but three three this movie uh last crusade it repeats a lot of things that you might have not caught or maybe that you would really enjoy seeing again, right? It's kind of like a return of the Jedi, right? There's a bunch of things in there that are kind of repeats of the first movie. But

in a way that really sets it in stone, this is what Indiana Jones is all about. And the movie, Last Crusade starts with Indiana Jones as a kid and it's River Phoenix by the way, playing Indiana Jones, which is so awesome. Yeah. And

like there's just so things like that except for the whole like oh this is where his hat thing came from ooh his boy is afraid of snakes I hate that part. The only complaint I have is that they retro every Indiana Jones thing into the space of a five minute like here's how he became the the man

we know all of the little idiosyncrencies about Indiana Jones right in that first five minutes and see I thought that too and I disagree now because I just rewatched it like it doesn't actually have every little thing like it's actually kind of, it's kind of chill.

It's got his whip. It's got the snakes. It's got the hat. Chin. What else? It does have a lot. It does a lot. It's a lot of fans.

But you're saying that Indiana Jones is a bunch of, like you just said a bunch of words. Like, there's a lot more than this character. Fair enough. That's a fair point. It could have been, like it could have included a young Sala or something. And it doesn't. Okay. Fair enough.

All right. That could have been way worse. That would have been. this first scene is chill anyway it's such a great movie and tomorrow we have dial of destiny uh coming in and it's just like it's the perfect time for you to watch a an indiana jones something and i'm recommending last crusade and i think i don't know for sure because i haven't seen dial of destiny yet but i think of the previous four movies this one is the one that will inform dial of destiny the most for you i i think that's just uh you know don't know

for sure, but it felt like the the one that's the most grounded in the Indiana Jones universe. Do you think that we get, because Sala's back, right? John Rize Davies is back. We saw him in the trailer. Yeah. Do you think he's ever going to say bad dates as like an ironic throwback? No, okay.

I was really hoping he might. So Dunaway or Dunaway, Ibitt, when you get back, you'll have to let us know how, if they, if this movie tries to do any of that, you know, like, oh, remember all that shit from the 80s and 90s? We're going to get the, uh, why does Sala say bad dates. Here's him as a child learning

about bad dates, going on 50 bad dates. Yeah, don't eat 50 bad dates. That's 50 dead monkeys if you do that. That's right. Exactly. All right. You know what? No, go ahead. I just looked in the first IMAX showing here at the Spectrum tomorrow is at 3 p.m. And there's still a bunch of tickets available. That's, what happened, man?

Like, 20 years ago, this would have been sold out for six weeks already. Yeah, it's weird now. I mean, it's still will clearly make a ton of money when they do. We've had two huge money makers this year already that were gigantic. But none of them are ever sold out. But look at the evening show, Randy, and see if you get the same thing. Like, it might just be that 3 p.m. is a tough time for people to...

Well, and that's the other thing. Remember when we were growing up or even in our 20s, 30s? It didn't feel like they were always midnight showings for, for premieres. It was never this 3 p.m. in the morning, you know, they're doing it like Black Friday now, where it all starts early. and yeah it's weird i i i don't know i i think there's i i don't really want to go i would weigh i would pay even more and by the way it's very expensive now like we we talked we talked about this in on thum sack many times very you know the prices do nothing but go up yeah but it's really expensive now i would still pay more like if you if you gave me like a

$100, $24-hour rental at home, I would probably pay that because it's, you know what I'm saying? I'd pay 40. I think 40's where I'd stop. If it becomes, because I don't think, well, if Kim and I went, we're not going to spend, I don't know, it ends up creeping up to like 60 something, doesn't it, when you go to theaters anymore after you buy it. I pay 20 a month and go to the Alamo draft house and see all the movies I want with people who like to see movies and shit up. Yeah. If this ever, they ever come here. I'm freaking doing it. I'm doing it.

Because Brian's review has been, well, and you, Randy, you've talked about Alamo since you were in Texas. You lived in Austin. Yeah, I lived, and I lived really close to the Alamo Draft House North for five years, and I was there twice a week. Yeah, I was going to say, that was your time. That was your moment. Yeah.

I would do this in a heartbeat. All right. Well, hopefully they come here. That'd be nice. Watch last crusade. Seriously, watch last crusade. Yeah, it's great. You haven't seen it a long time.

Watch it. Disney Plus, you said, to where it's at. That's correct. Yeah, they have the whole collection. there. They have, I think they have young Indiana Jones. It's chronicles. Yeah, whatever that is. They own all that shit. They got a new series coming later. There's some talk of that. After this movie's done, they're going to do like a return to the young Indiana Jones remakey kind of thing. I don't know what progress there is on that. Everything's up in the air with the strikes now, so who knows. Given how much comedy is in Indiana Jones movies, it's too bad that they can't go back in time and have Harrison Ford be in an animated series. Like, you know, like a lower decks kind of series where you just steer into the comedy. Yeah.

Because, I mean, oh, it would have been so fun. I wouldn't mind that. By the way, you'd recommend Lower Decks a while back. And I've got a second that the new season of Lower Decks, Randy, is just fantastic. It's so good. Oh, my God. It's so good. And you should watch some of it.

And I guess the newer season, the latest season is the one to watch if you're prepping for Strange New Worlds. right the crossover the bizarre crossover that we i can't wait for yeah yeah and i'll bet i'll bet you they string us along all summer by the way i'll bet we're i bet we don't get the lower decks crossover episode until like second to last you know i'm fine with that because because strange new worlds is so good that uh let them let them do it they're still giving me great content i mean i still haven't watched any of the new season but i i hear you there's an episode that really touched you oh the first one yeah the first one is amazing and the second one fantastic like if they're just there are firing on all cylinders i i i'm like cringing

hoping that there isn't a letdown episode you know yeah like just like every one of them is like a feature film i love the last season so i'm all in on this so can't wait to get caught up i haven't seen it yet either the new one but the fact that they're bringing those characters in as the actual actors who do the voices is amazing so cool love awesome uh all right let's get to my clip this is a movie it is on Hulu and I have a complicated review all right oh boy yeah so your complications ready yep so here we go sometimes when you deep dive it takes you places you didn't expect so that's kind of what happened here anyway here it is just like that I became the burrito hustler of wasty elementary ever heard of a little thing called supply and demand man man Taco Bell didn't

introduce the world of burritos me and my mom Well, at least that's what it felt like to me. I wasn't going to let another day go by where Judy ate a satsack lunch. My Jude wanted chocolate, and she was going to get it. All right, that is a clip from the narration part of his younger life in the movie Flamen Hot, which is currently on Hulu. It's an original. It's also on Disney Plus, I believe.

So they're all alone together. And I think they're in both. Was or was not fully sponsored by Cheetos? So here's where I'll get right to where I find... Talk about product placement. Here's where I get to where I think things are complicated. It's not so much that it's about a brand because that happens, like the McDonald's won, the founder movie is very good and isn't even showing McDonald's in the best light.

But, you know, you have these kind of things where you do a biography style movie and the products all over the place. the new Nike thing that Brian saw recently, that kind of thing. This is one of those, and it is directed by none other than Eva Longoria, of all people. Wait a minute. The person from the housewives was dangerous housewives, no, the Demented had something housewives. Dirty housewives. My old college buddy, she and I had several classes together. Oh, really?

You and Longoria? You and Avonongoria, really? She was from Corpus Christi. I was from the Valley. We both went to Texas A&I. It was the same year. We were the same age. Yeah, you guys made out in a truck once?

Absolutely not. No, okay. No one to get that story out there. Eva was very distant from people. She wasn't a people person back in college. And also she's tiny. You couldn't see her. Oh, yeah, a little tiny person.

They all are. She could hide behind a bush. I don't know. No one in Hollywood's big, it turns out. Anyway, she's directed this. And that surprised me because I just didn't know she was directing, but this is about the story of this guy named Richard Montanez. I don't even say it right. And there's also a joke in the movie about how no one ever says it right. He is a guy who

you hear about his life through this narration. And throughout his life, he's just kind of in and out of trouble. He sells drugs for a while. Gets married, has some kids, tries to go straight. Things don't work out great. Ends up getting a job at the Frito Lay plant as a janitor. And, his claim is and the part of this quote unquote true story is supposed to be that he is the one who came up with the idea for the flame and hot version of all the snacks so like flame and hot Doritos flame and hot Cheetos and that came at a time where they were getting killed by competition and they're this is 90s and they were struggling uh to to make they were closing plants and people were getting fired and all this stuff and uh he supposedly came in with this idea and

ended up talking to the CEO of the company, played here by Monk. What's his name? Tony Shalub. Tony Shalub plays the head of the entire thing. Matt Walsh from Veep, really funny actor. And Veepe, he has a mustache and is always really annoying Julie Louise Dreyfus in that show. And here he plays the plant runner or the plant manager. And he is as great as always.

is Dennis Haysbert's in this. Are you in good hands, that guy? I love that you're naming all the people who aren't Hispanic. What's what's going on? Well, he's the only one that is. Are you whitewashing your recommendal skills? No, he's the only one that is. Although Tony Shaloo plays somebody named Roger Enrico,

who's also got ties in the Hispanic community. But, you know, lots of white actors in white roles and Hayesbert in a role that is interesting because he's a, you know, he's a black guy in the 90s, trying to get stuff done, and he's got his own version of, what's, you know, what his glass ceiling is at this company. And anyway, long and the short of it is, this is supposed to be the story of how he came up with the formula to spice up these snacks and it changed the world. And they hired him to become a full-time exec at the company.

And the rest is history. Now, that stuff's true. But it's a little apocryphal, it turns out, on his claim that he's the one that came up with the formula or even the idea. And there are a lot of counterclaims that, no, he didn't really do. that this was this other thing and he just happened to be somewhere at the right time and so there's a there's some controversy around this movie that it's not as based on a true story as it claims to be based on and so going to that it's definitely based on a true story it

definitely is doesn't stick to the true story as closely as a show there's a lot of there's a lot of like there's a lot of legend inserted according to other people now he claims up and down that this is 100% how it went um other people people in his life are like, yeah, that's not really how it went. So there's, so there's some controversy about that around the movie, which does sometimes, when you see a movie like this, you hope that they've stuck all the bits together, right? And it works, you know, it's as close to the truth as you can get in a film and still be entertaining. And, you know, the big short's a good example of that. I do a really good job of illustrating what happened when the

housing collapse, but they also code it with these other concepts that make it interesting and entertaining, but still stick to the core truth. And I, Super Pump is another good one that does the history of Uber and Lyft, primarily Uber and does a really good job with. Here's the pillars of the true story connected by some, you know, some sensationalism. And we want that, right? Like, there's no way the Wolf of Wall Street is very accurate. But we want the spectacle. We want the entertainment.

Yeah, we want it to be a bit of a spectacle. And this one I was hoping for because it's a real, it's a very wholesome movie. Like, there's nothing about this that's going to offend anyone. it's it's kind-hearted in lots of ways funny in some ways maybe a little too Disney plus and not enough Hulu you know in terms of it just feels a little saccharine in parts but people like Jesse Garcia plays richard the main character he's fantastic really great in this Tony Shalub is great in everything so it's no shock that he's really good in this Dennis Haysbert doing something I've never really seen him do before he's usually some big shot in government like president uh whatever on 24 forgot his last name oh uh Palmer. President Palmer in that. Are you a good hand? You know, it's just that voice.

Right. He's amazing. They're all great. Everybody in this is really great. I just want people to know going into it. You're in for a fun, lighthearted, good time. Just know that don't go in there going, I'm about to watch a fully documented truth documentary. Because you're probably not going to get it.

And some of it's nebulous even still. and there's some controversy about the guy who told the story and just know all that going in. And if you do, you'll still have a good time. In fact, you know what? Best thing to do, go in pretending this is completely made up. It's just a fiction. And if you go into it like that, you know, would your review be great? It's a great watch.

Yes. Yes. I would say this is a really good time. Go into without any sort of like expectation that what you're watching is factual. Exactly. There you go. If I didn't know that, I wouldn't have any of these caveats to say. Because, you know, like I, I usually.

like watch a movie like I don't know miracle the hockey team one I love that yeah yeah and I know I know in my heart of hearts there's parts that are dramatized for dramatic sake I know that but I don't care I just get swept up in the you know the excitement of it and the feeling of it and the and the sort of the I don't know the emotion bio cow points out like it's closer to the weird all Yankevick movie than JFK as far as like the there you go you know what that's a good way of putting it is the worst example imaginable i love i think weird al is the is the worst example by and by worst i mean fantastic movie but but so far from the actual history but don't but doesn't that but they know that right

they lean into that that they lean into that they do it intentionally whereas jfk is like you know trying to be really trying to be serious about it i don't know and i love jfk but i also go into that knowing most of this is hoax fiction as well yeah but it's a good you know it's a good watch so that's how this landed for me i think people enjoy it's good It's a good family movie. So if you're just like, well, what can I sit around and watch with my 12-year-old and my mom and whatever? This is like one of those. And those are rare these days, I feel like.

So, yeah, it's out now on Hulu. That's where I watched it. I think it's on Disney Plus as well. Flaming Hot is what it's called. I'm really happy for Eva. She's got, you know, like she's now got things in the works. She's got a movie coming called 24-7 that was like written by Sarah Rothschild and appears to be starring Carrie Washington. And like it on the on paper, it sounds like,

Oscar bait and I'm all for it. Like go Eva. Yeah. Why not? Your old classmate. Yeah, your old make out in the closet partner. She's going to do. Not at all. Nope. Nope. We're not with Randy DeLux. Nope. I'm telling you the closest I ever got to Eva was like across a classroom. Yeah. Like I say, she just was she was at college to be a student. But you told me that time that one time that she saw you in the gym and that's where you got the deluxe from. The Randy Deluxe came from when she saw you naked in the gym. Is that not true? Is this all been a lie that I've been told? She was a cheerleader. And I think she was the head cheerleader by the time we were like in our 20s, I think, at Texas A&I. And she was the one that they would throw real high because she was so small. They could like they could toss her like 50 feet in the air. And that was always weird to see.

There's a little woman just flying up in the air. Well, good on her. I didn't know she directed so much stuff. There's tons of stuff in here. Look at all this. I had no idea. TV shows. movies I've never heard of, but still, that's, that's awesome. I love that. I love when actors are like, you know what, I'm not done. I got shit to do. Yeah. All right. Well, then that'll do it for us this week.

Brian put all these up on quicksack. No, no, what's it? QuickTMS. Dot L.I. Quick TMS.S. Dot L.I. Forget which L.I we're using. And that's up there now.

So if you're trying to track these things, you've got links like straight up to these movies. Links and photos and all that stuff. And, and we're about to watch. James Bond movie, boys. Yeah. We are. I haven't watched it. I mean, obviously, I've seen it before, but

I'm going to watch it tonight. So which one is it? Tonight, okay. Which one are we? Because I've got Indiana Jones tomorrow night and a birthday party Friday night. So which is going to wipe my mind. I mean, watch it tonight too.

It's Thunderball, Scott. Thunderball. Okay. Thunderball. I've never seen Thunderballs be my first watch. Okay. Sweet. I know, right.

We're going to go under the sea. Under the sea. That's the one they remade for Never Say Never Again. wait does thunderball have the guy with the webbed fingers and feet the bad guy no that's uh because i've seen we've already watched i thought that was um was that doctor no is that doctor no i think it is i don't remember i just remember as a kid being freaked out by webbed finger or feet you're talking about uh carl stromberg yeah uh movie is it love me spy who loved me no that's by love me no no not a spy who loved me.

There was water in that, though. They spent a lot of time underwater and the spy who loved me, but I don't think the guy had. Yeah, it's the spy who loved me. It's the spy who loved me. He had web fingers and feet. Yes. Maybe not feet.

Maybe I only think into fingers. And his lab is called Atlantis. That should be called webbed.com. With great water slides and everything. I love that lab. We'll get there, buddy. He expects you to die. Yeah, we're on away.

We still have to finish Connery before we can get to more. We've got to finish Connery and we've got to finish some Australian underwear model. That's right. Hit him out of there. Well, there you have it. Randy Jordan, aka Randy Deluxe. You can find him under that name everywhere you go. Randy have a fantastic week.

One more thing. Yeah. What do you got? Nothing else? You're just kidding? Bye. All right. Bye.

Okay. He's out. He's out of the picture there. And now we conclude things. I really even have my opening song for this film sack. and I haven't even watched the film yet, but I already know what song parody I'm going to do. So be prepared, folks, to mute the first five minutes of film sack this weekend. Whatever.

Everyone loves these new little songs you're doing. It's your new thing. Like, I feel like everybody's got their thing. Randy's got his list of three things. You've got a song now. Brian has got his weird. The thing that nobody can do, nobody feels like they can duplicate what Dunaway does. And so now you've all got your unique little deal.

It's amazing. It only took us 12 years. I don't have to rely on that Bob Newhart one side of the phone call trope. No. You say you've got a thunderball, is it? What is a thunderball? It's always there if you need to fallback.

But yeah, I love this. I can always go back to it. Yeah, I always go back to what you know. All right, that's going to do it for the show. I want to thank all our new patrons here lately. You guys have really stepped up in the month of June. We really appreciate it. If you want to understand why that's a cool thing,

in fact, just put art up for the coming month. I'm so excited to send it out. The piece I did about, well, it's basically just a sci-fi thing. I'm just really proud of the art, and my favorite thing is I get to send it out to you via this method. What are you, what am I talking about? I'm talking about our Patreon. It's one of the levels. You get free art in the mail.

I know, like stuff you can hang on your wall and collect them all, that kind of thing. But there's other reasons. No commercials ever. Pre-show content every day. Couch parties on the weekend and play dates. We're doing one of those tomorrow, or Friday, rather. So look forward to that. Art in the mail I mentioned, and other great monthly benefits.

You can learn all about it at patreon.com slash TMS. Hey, Brian, let's get out here with a big, fat, hairy, sweaty song. How about, and appropriately, that's going out to furry Viking. Oh, geez. Hey, suds and bubbles. Brian, I have a request that can be used whenever you need to fill a space, which just happens to be Wednesday, June 28th, as a matter of fact. TMS has become one of my go-to sources for new things to enjoy.

Music, movies, go watch, triangle, TV shows, games, etc. On episode 2448, I got introduced to Conbrillo and fell down a rabbit hole. I really dig their bluesy soul rock vibe. Yes, that is a, I'm so glad you enjoyed that. That was a great, India in the Middle. Love Conbrio. Their lead singer, Sarah Clark, has a voice that gives me goosebumps. They did a cover of Heart-shaped Box by Nirvana that is a fantastic rendition of the song.

Thank you for the content and recommendations. Keep doing what you do, and I'll keep the Patreon sub active to support it. Cheers, furry Viking. Oh, that's awesome. Look at that. I didn't realize we had somebody backing up the mention of Patreon like that. No, it's perfect. We wish we could do that every day.

Be like that, everybody. Be like furry Viking, why don't show? Yeah. All right, so this is from a single they released in 2018. It is con brio, which is Spanish for With Brio. Here is their rendition of Nirvana's heart-shaped box. She asked me like our place is where I'm weak. I've been locked inside your hot-shin box for weeks.

I'm droll into your magnetic door pit trap. I wish I could eat your cancer away. you turn back up when i say hey wait i've got a new complaint forever down to your priceless advice when i say hey wait i've got a new complaint forever down to your priceless It rose Men beating Orkins No one just yet

Count myself on Angels' hair and baby's breath Oh yeah Broken hymen Of your highness I have so black Yeah Though by your embellicule, I can come right back

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Inside With you I'm going to It's love inside Love You're out of Yeah

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