The Morning Stream - TMS 2491: Cheese Feud
Episode Date: July 12, 2023How's the old lady? How's Kim doing these days, you know she's got a casserole in the trunk. Petal Protocol. Shave the Nickle. Finnish is Hard, English is Dumb. Hey, uh, can I get a cheeseburger with ...no cheese. We don't have mountains here. If you like it then you've gotta put a pickle on it. Wotzishere Sauce! Check out the old hobo though. Eatin That Raw Ass Onion. Gettin' down with the pickles. Mustard? More like... MUST HAVE! Sussing out the rigmarole with Tom! Shirtless & Bald Reccamentals With Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS, how's the old lady?
How's Kim doing these days?
You know she's got a casserole in the trunk.
Petal Protocol.
Shave the nickel.
Finish is hard.
English is dumb.
Hey, can I get a cheeseburger with no cheese?
We don't have mountains here.
If you like it, then you got to put a pickle on it.
What's to see your sauce?
Check out the old hobo, though.
Eating that raw ass onion.
Getting down with the pickles.
Mustard.
More like must have.
Sussing out the rigmarole with Tom.
shirtless and bald recommendals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
We didn't have tornadoes here until we started putting into traffic circles.
Because on the kind of you want to know why, when people go round and rounded circles,
it causes disturbance in the atmosphere and causes tornadoes.
Did you have sex on him?
The morning.
Stream. Raw meat. Do you like raw meat?
Hi, Scott Johnson. Hi, Scott Johnson. Hi, Scott Johnson. Hello. Hi, hello. And all the ships at sea. Yes, indeed. How are you? Hey, first things first. How's? How's?
I don't said, how's the old lady.
That's not how people talk anymore.
That's now how people say that anymore?
We don't do that anymore.
What is this to 50s?
I don't know.
I think people still say that.
How's the old lady?
You know, I think when you, you have to do it with somebody who knows that you don't mean the old lady.
Right.
Because you don't mean old.
I can say, hey, Scott, how's the old lady?
And you'd be like, ah, Kim's doing great.
She's got a casserole in a trunk for you.
Yeah, it wouldn't bother me at all to hear that.
So, yeah, you're right.
It's still contextual.
All these years later, you can.
you can still do it in context.
But how's Tina's the question?
You just can't walk up to a guy in a bar and say,
oh, you're married, how's the old lady?
Right in the kisser.
Yeah, right in the kisser.
The bang zoom, night to the moon, Alice.
She is doing very well.
She is coughing less than yesterday.
So her cough is starting to subside.
She's getting a lot of her strength back.
And they gave her this little, it's funny,
what does it look like?
It looks like about the size of a transparent Sega Dreamcast controller.
Oh.
okay I have one of those that's about this big or so yeah yeah it's bigger than that because remember you had to be able to slip in that little separate doodad
oh I'm thinking LCD yeah I'm thinking Saturn sorry yes dream cast is better yeah the dreamcast was a little bit bigger yeah and um it's got a little hose on it and you you put that in your mouth and you inhale you can't blow you inhale yeah and it causes a little riser on one of the sides to go and there's a little mark that the uh RN
put on the left side to indicate how far up the meter the little puck should go.
And she's reaching that puck, and sometimes she's surpassing it.
So she's two days out from the hospital, and she's already showing lots and lots of signs of improvement.
So like those things, I guess astronauts, they blow into those things to test how hard they can blow and they want to get that ball up there.
It's kind of like that, right?
It's just testing lung strength or whatever.
In this case, it's a suck as opposed to a blow.
But, yeah, it's a lung.
Yeah, exactly.
Nine of 12 says it's a lung capacity test where you can, you know, basically you're seeing how much air you can pull into your lungs.
Because if you don't, if you can't pull in a lot, you're going to go and you're going to run out of room in your lungs.
Right.
So you want to have a good, like, you know, long, long amount of air.
The hard part of that is it can make you, that part makes you cough, right?
that's probably yes it does she does it and immediately starts coughing right afterwards that sucks
that sucks but that's good though that probably means that the the the pneumonia part is at bay right
she is she is on the mend she's doing much much better and uh we're happy about that all right
well i ran into somebody who may not be doing very well would you like to hear about this kid yes
please tell me about this i don't actually know if they're going to be okay or not nor did i know
what to do in the situation. So I present this to the to the TMS crowd and to you for
what what you would have done in this scenario. Okay. Judgment. Judgment time. Hot day
yesterday. It was 100 degrees at one point. We like our heat though because it's dry.
Oh, it's a dry heat. Oh, it's a dry heat. Always hear people saying, oh, it's good. It's a dry
heat. Yeah. And I don't want to complain because people in like, you know, Georgia or other
places. It's very hot and also very humid.
I couldn't do it.
But anyway, it was warm, and I thought, this sounds like a nice time to take the dog for a little spin.
So I'm going to take the dog for a walk.
Get her out there, let her pee, enjoy the heat and the shade and the whatever.
So I do this.
And I'm walking around and did the full loop of what I usually do.
And then when I came back around to come home, I passed by these rose bushes on our left.
And they're always a little annoying because they kind of stick out.
and I sometimes run into them, get snagged on them.
It sucks.
They need to trim them back, but it's an HOA thing and whatever.
So I'm walking past that, or I'm walking toward it like I always do.
And I turn that corner and buy one of the rose bushes, sits a young, probably three and a half, four-year-old.
Okay.
Just younger than Van, maybe younger than that even.
It's shorter, though.
So it was hard for me to pick the age.
But a young child sitting there.
on their butt eating rose petals oh yeah okay so I had a little pile of these rose petals from
the rose bushes above him he's sitting there with a big pile of these things and he's just slowly
one by one eating eating petals sure and I walk around the corner I see this and my brain goes
well they put rose petals in certain foods like especially fancy stuff right like yeah and rose water
you use for those are not poinsettia
Yeah, or as long as they haven't been sprayed with some pesticide or something.
Yeah, so that's where my head's at, I'm like, well, I don't know if this is an emergency
so much as this is just probably still not good, you know, you don't need this kid eating
these, eating these things.
So I, so here's the question.
Finding him is not that unusual.
You find a kid eating weird crap all the time.
All the time.
Yes.
The bigger question is, what is, what do I do?
What's the protocol here?
What do we do?
We come across a child eating rose.
Yeah, and a child I don't know, a child whose parents I don't know.
I don't know whose kid it is.
And there are no adults anywhere in the vicinity.
So, so what do you do?
Here's what I would do. Here's the extent.
Here's as far as I would go.
All right.
I'm walking the dog.
I come across, uh, come across feral kid from road warriors sitting there,
munching on rose petals.
Uh, what, uh, should you be eating those?
Yeah. Okay. Carry on. And I just locked us. That's the extent I'll be like, I'll basically just draw their attention to should you be beaten those? And if they don't say, oh, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't.
Or if they just keep going, what are you going to do? Like, they're just going to keep going or they're not. One of the other.
You're absolutely going to need a bug at some point if you do that. If you haven't already. And you're going to anger the parent that planted those roses.
and expects to find them intact when the day is done.
Yeah, and that's the other thing is I knew for a fact this kid was not the offspring of the people who own the roses.
Oh, really?
Oh, no.
So he's eating somebody else's roses.
Yeah.
And he's out in the street in the public part of the street, which is the other side of where this yard and little fence is.
So he's not even fenced in.
He's actually a little bit.
I was more worried like, why is this kid like abandoned?
So here's what I ended up doing.
So I'm glad you said what you said because that's kind of what I did in a slightly different way.
I went, ooh, gross. Those aren't good. No, gross, bad. Yucky, yucky, like that. And then I thought, well, now what? Do I just, do I just keep going? Do I want to try to... Do I continue? Go any further?
Well, should I try to say, where are your parents? Like, but then I'm in the weird territory. I don't want some lady peeking out her window going, there's a strange man talking to children out there. You know, I didn't want that. So I'm sitting there kind of curmuffled, not sure in what,
to do and then right around then a lady comes running across the street and yelling i forgot the
kid's name we're going we'll just call him bucky bucky come here oh my gosh bucky pick those out of
your mouth bucky bucky bucky and i'm like i'm like oh boy i'm glad you showed up that was it was looking
a little rough over here and she's like sorry sorry sorry she kept saying and then i moved on so that's
how it ended up but it was an awkward weird that is weird i mean it's you know that age
I'm surprised she left him alone as long as she did,
and long enough for him to be eating rose petals
to see him without her being aware of it.
Especially at that age, right?
That's the,
that I would still be kind of keeping an eye on them
if they were outside.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm all for like less helicopter parenting
when kids are of an age
where they should be exploring and being outside and all that.
For sure.
We had some of our best experiences,
you and I probably,
and kids of our age,
with our freedom that we had to go ride our bikes
to parts of the neighborhood
that we probably shouldn't have been.
How else are you going to find snakes
and bring him home and stuff like that?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you gotta give you there's an old hobo
right by the train station.
Let's go check out the old hobo
and his bindle on a stick.
Yeah, all that stuff is so much fun.
And then, but I think three or four,
I think maybe you still should probably have
a better handle on where that kid is.
Yeah, I would think so.
I think so, yeah.
Because some other local story here recently
or some kid,
they were all at like a barbecue or something near a river
and they just let this three-year-old crawl off
and fall on the river and drown.
It was like awful.
This is a horrible story, right?
And I'm thinking, you don't,
if it's these three, you just,
you hang on to that kid for dear life
until he's old enough to not fall on the river and drown.
That's how you do it.
Yeah, exactly.
If you live, yeah,
especially if you live close enough
that they can just get to it by walking over to it,
then by, you know,
damn right, you keep an eye on that.
that kid. I can't imagine how those parents feel. What a nightmare.
All right. We got some...
Well, boy, reaching out, by the way, to the folks in Vermont who are dealing with that flooding.
Oh, it's bad.
15, 10 minutes away from where my parents live, but they're high on a hilltop in Jericho.
So all the rain that they're getting just goes downhill for them.
But my God, the people in Burlington, the people in Montpelier.
and I've been in there
and I've driven through the streets that are
totally submerged underwater and it just blows my mind that
the video is insane of that flooding
it's so crazy it's like
all right well you know Tina's
Tina's health it's a sucky thing that we went through
but I'm you know we're not dealing with having to
get water out of our basement and the destruction
of our home and that sort of thing so it's like
all right yeah it's kind of yeah I'm
I'm glad we live in a place where you can get hospital treatment, get there, get out, and be well on your way and taken care of compared to what they're going through down there.
We talked about money the other day.
Those little ridges on money, like on coins.
You know what I'm talking about?
Remember that?
Yeah.
A couple weeks ago, or whenever it was.
We got an anonymous text that kind of maybe adds to it, but maybe it's apocryphal.
I don't know.
We're going to find out.
He says, I remember when I was looking.
little. My dad told me that in Old West dimes, they were made out of silver, all right? So the old
school dimes. And he says they are small, of course, and that's the size of 10 cents worth of
silver, meaning that when they put those edges on there, they had to have 10 little, and we got a couple
other supporting emails about this. The ridges, for a while anyway, represented how much
those, how much silver was worth, or how much silver that thing was worth. It just had 10 ridges
on the edges of a, of a dime? Well, it was, uh, how to, how to, this other email I have
explains it better. This one just sort of gets into it, but, um, it, it had, the ridges actually
meant the, the, the amount of silver. Now, it may not be equal to per penny. Really? It was like a
silver portion was represented by a ridge.
And if he didn't have the ridge, it meant either it was counterfeit or it was a goof or something like that.
I had no idea about that.
That I thought, I thought the ridges were there just to make, you know, those smaller coins easier to pick up or easier to grab.
That's what I thought.
And maybe they had the dual use of that.
And again, it might be a little apocryphal.
But he also says that some people would shave a silver or a sliver of silver off the edge before spending them.
So ridges were added to prevent that.
The other reason that those ridges exist is that if you did that,
you knew somebody was basically skimming off the top of the silver
and using it outside of the currency,
basically doubling up on currency without government approval is what it was.
Interesting.
I had no idea.
So 118 ridges on a dime.
Yeah, definitely not 10.
A lot more than 10.
Yeah, a lot more than 10.
And they added them according to, what is this the, again, who knows, right?
Unless I'm looking at the mint, the U.S. mint and having reasons here.
But, yeah, to as you said, prevent coin clipping and counterfeiting.
Coin clipping is, like you said, shaving metal from the coin's circumference.
So making it, like, you know, you could take a nickel and shave,
part of the metal off of it. If nickel was valuable, you could do that. And it would still look
like a nickel because, you know, it wouldn't be obvious because there aren't ridges that would be
missing like they are on a quarter or on a dime or that sort of thing. Yeah, you'd have to hold it
next to another one to see if it had shrunk in the circumference or not. And it reminds me of that
Sesame Street bit where Bert has that plate of cookies. And Ernie's like, well, I'm just going to
taste one. Oh, shoot, I've made a dent. Okay, I have to eat around the cookie to make
it so it's even well shoot now this cookie's smaller than the others i'll eat another i'll do it to all the
cook and before he's know it he's done he's eating all the cookies basically yeah yeah yeah always reminds
me as you're saying that uh someone would would uh with a nickel have to basically keep shaving
off of the circumference of the nickel to be able to get away with yeah with what they're doing
yeah or they could do it with a dime or a quarter because of the ridges right exactly that's
the idea but uh oh hilarious anyway it's a funny comparison for sure so we've learned
a little something today, maybe.
About how money works.
That is interesting, yeah.
It's ridged for your pleasure, your money.
Don't forget it. Okay.
I threw a little link, by the way,
into our show notes,
and maybe we talked about it. You know what?
Let's, I'll do it at the bottom of the show
because it's fascinating to me.
Oh, really? I'm very curious now
about what this might be.
Yes. All right.
Yes. Okay.
Excellent. I'm going to get done away in here.
and I think he's around, you know?
Cool.
He's been...
I'd like him to be around.
He's had a lot going on, too.
Everybody's been very busy this July.
A lot of stuff.
It's so far July, yeah.
Yeah, maybe July could kind of calm down with itself.
Slow its roll a little.
Yeah, please.
That'd be all right with me.
All right, let's do this thing.
Here we go.
Hey, that music means it's time for us to play a little game.
And we do it with our friend Brian Dunaway.
It joins us now from South Carolina.
Hello, Brian.
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
How's your Wednesday going?
Oh, it's better now that you're here.
Better than our last Wednesday.
Yeah.
At least in the case of last Wednesday stuck.
Yeah, that's a, we're now a week from, uh, for, yeah, a week away from the hell that I
experienced here at the house.
That's right.
Um, when I,
a shit storm, if you will.
Yeah.
It's funny.
how fast time goes or how slow time goes
when you're in the middle of it and how fast it goes
when you're over it because I can't believe that was a week
ago. That's insane to me.
But anyway, hey, it's good to have you here, man.
Yeah, take that, you jerk.
We got to add somebody to this call.
We're going to try to do that right now.
Let's see.
Oh, we get another shot at Janie
because last week she never answered,
but I think we can get her in this time.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
They said that they were going to be available
on home from work.
Nice.
I think it's pronounced Yanna, but I want to,
I want to hear them confirm it.
Is it Johnny or Yana?
How do you say it?
Jan.
Jan.
Yon.
Yon.
Okay.
So we weren't even close.
You don't even pronounce the last.
I don't really mind.
Anything's right for me.
It's because it's such a cool international superstar name.
It's rad.
It's like Jan Hummer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You didn't call him Jan Hammer.
No.
He called him Jan Hammer.
No.
I think I may have called him Janhammer back then, but I didn't know any better.
Well, it's good to have you here.
I'm glad that you were able to come through.
We're going to play this game today. Brian, please explain the rules and how Yon here can win.
For sure. And before you do that, I do have to know. Yon, where are you calling from?
Finland.
You are in Finland. Awesome. I am.
All right. Do you look in the mirror? Let me ask you this. If you look in the mirror.
Oh, my God. Do, and you take, let's just say you take a shirt off. Can you see your heart beat?
Can you see your heart beating through your semi-translucent skin? That's what I need to know.
Absolutely. Okay. All right. See, confirmed. Your stereotypes are the...
most interesting your preconceived stereotypes of people are the most interesting i'll tell you what i
admire about the finish though the finish language i don't know how you guys do that thing that thing
you do with that language it is the most complex gnarly language i've talked to some people who
visited there uh my brother-in-law and wendy's husband spent a couple of years there and never could
get it down so you guys have like a magical worse than they they they are there and there and
oh hell yeah well ours are just
dumb. English is dumb, but they're, but, like, you listen to somebody in Finland talk,
it is insane language. You guys are, yeah, it's amazing. It's a complex language.
Yeah. All right, look, if we don't start this, uh, tadpooly feud, we'll never finish.
Oh, I'll never finish. I get it. I thought it was just talking to the finish today. Okay.
Oh, yeah. I get it.
Uh, it's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpoole on some nerdy topics.
And Scott and Breyering and have to predict the answers that they gave us. And it's their job to see how
many of those answers, they can guess.
Jan, your job is more important than ever
because you're going to be working with
either Scott or Brian, and if your team
wins, you get a prize package that
includes Death Squared
and System Shock enhanced edition.
So you get extra shock
with this enhanced edition version
of system. That's name brand games there.
Wow. Yeah, that's a big deal. I like it.
Is it a big deal? I've never played
system shock I've heard of, but I don't think
I've ever played it. System Shock is the
the granddaddy to Bioshop and
all that, it's an amazing, incredible, incredible series. Yeah, so good. Oh, that's cool. Wow. All right. Nice. Old but new again. Anyway.
Excellent. All right. Well, get your hands positioned there correctly over your buzzers. There we go. Or your buzzards. And get ready for this. We asked 381 tadpullers to give their answer to this question. What is your favorite burger topping? That is Scott.
How'd you beat me?
Mushrooms.
Mushrooms.
Show me mushrooms.
Fifth answer on the board.
I'll finish the question for Brian.
What is your favorite burger topping that is not cheese?
Oh, I thank God you finished.
I really wish Scott would have said cheese, honestly.
You know, I got lucky because I don't like cheese on burgers.
I know that's weird.
I know that's weird, but I just don't.
You don't like cheese on cheese burgers?
Is that what you said?
I don't like it on burgers, period.
I don't like cheese.
And you're not eating...
You don't get cheese on a burger.
Well, man, that's a cheese burger.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I can ask you this.
So you get your grilled mushrooms on a burger and you don't top it with Swiss?
No, hell no.
Oh.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Let me back that up.
You are missing out.
No, let me back that up.
If it is a...
If it's a Swiss mushroom burger, you know what?
Yes, I will do melted Swiss.
What I won't do is any kind of orange or American-like cheese.
I can't stand.
Sure, sure.
Your, your, uh, your, your, any of that, like the square piece of cheese.
Yeah.
I don't remember Richard Dawson having this long of a conversation.
Come on and kiss me all right.
You apparently, you apparently don't watch, didn't watch the show because, uh, yeah, he talked a lot that dude.
Hey, Mark.
Now while they're standing in the front, that's more Steve Harvey.
No, dude.
You've just forgotten.
Steve Harvey, Steve Harvey.
So Scott says, I don't like cheese on his, on my burger.
And then Steve Harvey looks at the camera.
Yeah, for about 10 minutes.
Yeah.
And it waits.
He does a lot of quiet.
A lot of quiet reflection.
I'm going to go with
Anya.
Oh, y'all.
Put my onion on my
How do you like your onion on your burger?
Oh, I like them caramelized, please.
Oh, really?
I'm a raw, give me a nice, fresh ring of onions.
You give me the choice of how my onion is going to be on my burger.
I will take caramelized onions.
Yes.
day and night.
All right, show me, show me onion.
Number two, and all that time
it took just to figure out who's going to have control
of the board. Brian, you and Yon have control
with my own, by the way, caramelized, grilled, and
fried. So like your fried, crispy onion straws or
onion rings. But you didn't include raw
in there, so now it's making me wonder. I did.
I mean, onions. Okay, okay. You just ran out of space.
The part before the parentheses implies
Because the raw and red and all that stuff.
So no other form of onion will be allowed.
Can you imagine eating a burger with Scott?
And then he like gets through and he's eating that raw ass onion.
And he's all like, hey, guys.
You guys want to go hang out.
John, you'll just have to groove on it because I like it.
I'll be eating that.
Jan.
Yon, did you, by the way, can I go to Finland and just get a burger there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Why not?
Okay.
Are they good, though?
Like, you guys know, you guys probably make him, I don't know, it's probably fresher.
You got some cow living up in a mountain somewhere.
It's probably just better, right?
We don't have mountains here.
Oh.
Y'all consider like a hamburger or an American food.
This tasty mountain cows, darn it.
I love the mountain cow beef.
Yeah.
I guess, but I'm of the opinion that only if it has beef, it can be a burger.
There you go.
And everything else is a sandwich.
Isn't that Arby's tagline?
I think it is.
Everything else is a sandwich.
but uh this is being this is the checkline yes should we bring uh bacon oh my god i now personally
i think this a no-brainer i think if you're gonna have a you're gonna have a burger you're gonna have a
bacon cheese burger that is the only way to well minus the cheese but you need the you need crispy
bacon that's a real key deal there you don't want that sweaty bloated looking fat bacon you
wouldn't make it in the south my friend i'd put i've been there i know you're right wait wait so even
even with a bacon burger and and again eliminating our our our
fake cheeses, right?
And people don't write in.
We know that we've already gone over the craft singles
is like 48% cheese and milk product or something.
Melvita slices are better than the craft ones.
Yeah, they definitely melt better.
But are you saying, Scott, that even if you have bacon and cheddar is available,
even though it's orange, you're still not throwing a slice of cheddar on there?
If it's a good slice of cheddar, I could be convinced, but it's also, I need it to be not
overwhelmingly, I don't want it to be a large portion of.
the, of the experience. I want less cheese than more, you know. I don't know how we can't come this
long, me and Scott Johnson, as long as it's been podcasting together that I didn't know his disdain
for cheese to this level. No, no, no. I like cheeses. Unlocked a new level. It's not a cheese as a
it's not a cheese thing on the whole. Like I love a little nice little bit of, you know, some kind of
Gouda. I like some cheese. You know, I'll eat some cheese, especially like a charcutory kind of thing.
But when you melt a big ass hunk of cheese on the burger, I feel like you're destroying what I like
about the burger. I don't know.
Bacon says?
Here's what I'll say, by the way.
As long as the cheese is not thicker than the burger,
then I'll take it on my burger.
But if you're giving me a slice of cheese that's thicker than the burger itself,
then they'll pass.
Well, that definitely sounds bad.
That sounds horrible.
This morning, didn't they say, like,
I forget what European country it was.
They have like the all-cheese cheese burger.
Oh, yes.
It's in our news.
Yeah, it's in our news today.
Oh, it is okay.
We're going to be talking about that thing?
Thailand, yeah, they do.
It's no meat.
20 slices of cheese. It's horrible.
You need liquid to
poop and cheese just takes it
all away, my friend. You don't want to do this.
It's a bad idea. Bad idea.
Anyway, bacon, I believe was your answer.
Bacon.
Zoe's in suspense. Is it on here?
Could it possibly show us
bacon?
Number one.
Yeah, of course, number one answer.
That sounds good. But look how close it is
between bacon and onions. Only five people
difference in 381
that their
favorite topping is onions over bacon.
It's interesting.
Yum.
It is interesting.
John, do you have another burger guess?
A burger guess.
One thing to think about is that our condiments are like ketchup and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are they toppings?
They are considered toppings.
They are considered toppings.
Yeah.
I agree.
Maybe we should go for pickles.
Oh, yeah.
Pickles do.
Okay.
Okay.
I like that.
You was like ketchup.
But then you was like, no, pickles.
All right, pickles.
I'm down with the pickles.
Are we all?
Are we all?
anyway so are we all down with pickles on the burger we're all good so so down with pickles on the
yeah bigger it elevates the burger and that's one where i'm like give me as much as big a thicker
one as you got i love a good pickle on a burger really oh yeah is that how you say it too scott
you go up to the give me the biggest and thickest one you got yeah i do i do and the poor kid
and the little white hat is like oh sir what sir oh this is a freddie's sir we can talk to my
manager hold on god you are making me really really
crave a freddies today uh show me put a pickle on it yeah 55 yeah people can drive their
pickles i feel like if you ask some uh kids between the age of six and 12 they would have a different
opinion on pickles but when you get older it is true it is a older flavor right you have to go
through puberty to really hit the pickle right yeah yeah yes exactly yeah i think i think yeah that's
my story yeah that's why i started drinking pickle juice oh yeah that's right hold on a second
Hold on now.
I do when I'm riding my bike.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
That sounds so gross.
The salt and electrolytes, the salt is like, it is like every stop at the MS-150, they've got these things called these little, they're supposed to be frozen like pickle pops, like otter pops, but they don't freeze them.
They just chill them, and you just cut the top off.
Gork, like a big shot of pickle juice, and I'm ready to go another 10 miles.
It's like hobo pee.
Can't do it.
Really?
But you like pickles?
I do.
I don't know why.
It's like, too, it's concentrated.
I don't know.
I can't explain it.
It just sounds horrible to me.
It's just like vinegar rice.
It's mostly.
Wait a minute.
Scott,
are you saying that you don't drink the water after you make your hot dogs
after you boil your hot dogs and you're going to pour it into a glass?
Okay, but you know, you went too far.
I do.
You're on that ledge by yourself.
I do love some hot dog water.
Oh, gross.
What do we say?
We haven't answered yet.
John, I think her last one was pickles.
Oh, yeah, you're still going.
Yeah. Maybe ketchup then.
I think ketchup, yeah.
I think ketchup is a much more popular condiment
just about any other one.
So I think ketchup is a number of good.
Sure. All right.
Show me ketchup.
Damn it.
Number four.
We just run down the board.
Running down the left side.
But Scott still has an opportunity to catch up.
He does.
Catch up.
The scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
the other one? Yeah, Mayo, too. Oh, yeah,
mayo. That's popular here. I'm surprised to hear
outside of the Southern Party United States.
Mayo is more popular in Europe than it is
in America. Yeah, Mayo came from Europe. Yeah, they dip their fries in that
stuff. But wait, it's not Duke's mayonnaise. It's not the way that
John Travolta says it. I think he says,
they dip their fries in that shit, Jules.
They love it. He can't get enough of it out there.
Why are you touching my hair?
I'm down with the Mayo.
show me mayo yeah yeah up there me oh yeah that's big points gosh dang it oh and the mayo melts just a little bit because you know it's kind of a firm jelly kind of almost at least our dukes mayonnaise is and it just it just kind of melts in between the stuff do you like that scott do i like the melting i like mayo uh i like mayo i do i like it on a burger i'm going to tell you something we learned on the fourth of july when tina was developing her pneumonia um
We went to a neighbor's house for a little feast, a little backyard barbecue feast.
And they, on their corn on the cob, before they put it on the grill, they coat it in mayonnaise.
And my God, you did not need butter.
These things were so low, it's a lot.
Mayoes is egg whites and oil.
And like, if you have, like, you put, you can put Worcestershire sauce in it if you're going for certain flavor, lemon juice.
It's a core, what's your flavor you're looking for?
It's not the oil and egg whites.
It's pronounced what's the Sears sauce.
What's the Sears is this?
What's this is your sauce?
This is just a Lote corn, right?
That's the, it's just Mexican street corn, isn't it?
Right.
Is that what they do?
It sounds like the Mexican Street.
They're trying to, they're trying to take the culture.
Well, I mean, they put, they also put like sprinkle on there some kind of, it might eat cheese.
Look, I live in the south, the southern part of the United States, but I've mentioned a couple of times already.
Oh, he or cheese or something.
Yeah, maybe some paprika or something.
Manease on corn was,
bound to happen. We didn't steal that from nobody.
No, but you're making me hungry
for it. When I was in Vegas,
they got a place in the container park
that makes really good
a low take horn and what Brian's
describing sounds like that. It's very good.
Oh, definitely, yeah. Yeah.
I'll tell you, you must make a mean burger because
you're doing pretty good here.
I'm kidding. I want to go to
Yon's house and have a burger. All right.
Got four answers still on the right side
of the board there. Oh, look at that. Now,
that is some good looking ask one. I know, right?
That takes to the next level.
I don't know what does it.
The corn's not brown.
I want a lot more brown.
I want a lot more caramelization on my kernels.
Oh, yeah.
I prefer more cook.
You're totally right on that.
I would totally prefer that.
I want a lot more brown.
A lot more brown.
Man, it's good.
Oh, it's so good.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right.
All right.
What else he got?
Four answers.
We're getting into our high money stuff here.
Here we are.
Yeah, so choose wisely.
We've, uh,
discussed
the jury with mayo
gave an
bacon for Zoe
Should we please
Claire with some lettuce
Well I think
That's actually the only thing
On Claire's burger is lettuce
I think
Yeah I think that
You should let us see
Some of that green stuff
On the board please
All right
Let us see if
It is on the board.
Show me lettuce.
Oh, look at the big bad points, boy.
Big ten points.
I think that means you won.
Still not out of range for Scott to...
Really?
If I got six, seven, and nine, I could win.
But, no, but if he got all of them, Yon was still win.
Oh, that's true, yeah.
Scott could still win, but Yonah wins either way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I feel good.
Yeah, either way.
I do want to destroy Scott.
He wins regardless of the point.
I meant yawn.
Yeah.
Right.
I keep hearing, uh, uh, what, oh, shoot.
I can't roll with the other.
When people were saying, Yanni, they were hearing green needle.
No, what was it?
It was, uh, oh, green, uh, no, no, green needle is brainstorm.
Brainstorm.
Brainstorm.
Thank you, Vengeant, Lauren.
Loire.
Laurel.
Laurel.
Laurel.
I have no idea what the hell you all were talking about.
I love that one.
I do too.
All right.
So, you got three answers still left on the board.
Run it.
Well, you know, let's, let's just.
shut Scott out of this business
with his grilled mushrooms and his hatred of cheese.
He should grow my snow. He deserves that
all the hate he can get.
Maybe the
OG
form of ketchup, tomato.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Put some tomato sauce on your tomato.
I agree. I love the way you
describe it. It is. It's a, you know,
some raw ketchup in the form of tomatoes.
Let's face it. Let's face it.
Ketchup is mostly.
sugar.
For sure.
All right.
Yeah.
Oh,
I thought he could get
9 plus 7,
16 plus 6
is 22 plus 5,
27.
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
Dubious rascal.
Okay.
So he's out.
How dubious.
You've already won regardless.
Math rascal.
Let's do some dice.
Tomatoes.
Let's show me some.
Oh,
you prefer diced?
I definitely want sliced on my burger.
Otherwise it falls off.
Yeah,
there's no point to that.
Don't show me some
tomatoes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Top them up, put them in a stew.
Right about where I expect it.
It's right there in the middle.
Oh, how thick is a good question.
How fresh and real.
Quarter of an inch, really.
That's four inch.
That's about right.
I get mad at those little paper thin sliced tomatoes.
Right.
And I'll go thicker if it's a good tomato.
Like from a real garden, not some crappy, not quite ripe thing that you sometimes slap on there.
If you give me a real good tomato, I'll go thicker out of there.
You're going to put some pepper and salt on that thing too?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, we are mostly in agreement on our burger.
It's just the onion thing.
You know, agree with me, yeah, yeah.
It's fine. It's fine.
And the cheese.
But we won't, we won't follow.
No.
All right, two answers left.
Yep, two left.
You guys can run it.
Run that board.
Yeah.
What do you think?
We haven't mentioned mustard yet.
Is that just a ketchup and mustard is my personal favorite?
I love.
No, mustard is a must.
It is must.
I think mustard is that.
You have to have it.
I think mustard is safe. Let's see if
the tadpool thinks.
It's safe. Is it safe?
Show me
mustard.
Oh, are you kidding me?
That's a, that's, that was the only one I actually said other than the
Onion John's got all the rest of them.
That's F dot.
Mustard was number 11, so it was just out of the running.
It just got edged out by lettuce.
That is just insane to me.
Edged out by lettuce.
All right.
Man, I wasn't prepared to be.
I didn't think it was going to come back to me.
I thought it was over.
Yeah.
These last two are not your typical.
Oh, good.
That's good.
I'll just tell you that much.
I'll tell you that much that's like, yeah, these are not your.
I know one that has grown in popularity recently.
Well, shut up.
This is my turn.
I'm going to say, let's go with, let's do pineapple, slice of pineapple.
Pineapple.
are you you're making me
crave right now the
the bonsai at Red Robin
yeah it's really good and I'll tell you this
I hate it on pizza love it on a burger
can't explain why I don't like it on pizza
I can't explain that either
all right show me pineapple
damn it
number 19 and the list was
pineapple which is really surprising
I really enjoy
an avocado on my burger now
I used to not care for it but it's a good replacement
it for mayonnaise.
Yeah.
That nice oily taste to it.
What do you think, Yon?
Sure.
I love it.
We'll do it.
He'll allow it.
All right.
Show me avocado.
Oh.
Avocado slash guacamole
number 12 just after mustard.
Oh, we got 11 and 12, but not the old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We already did.
Yeah, we did.
We did.
Hmm.
Did somebody put, did anybody put bun?
Yes.
I will tell you that because, because I don't think any of you are going to just say
Ben, three people said bun.
It was number 17.
I knew it.
Let's smart asses.
I like a jalapeno slices on my burger sometimes.
Oh, that's nice.
Not too hot.
I don't want the ones that are, I guess the more ripe those are, the less hot they are.
So I'd like them to be ripe.
Thank you.
I like to hear you justify your burger order to the burger guy one day.
see for those i prefer
throw them like saute them or pickle them i want them a little bit
a little bit uh i don't want just the
the raw uh jalapeno slice yeah it's a i would prefer that too
i think i'll take him either way but yeah i'm with you on that um but i but i think
i'll just see let's just categorically say peppers
maybe that'll get me there all right
show me categorically peppers
really jalapinos is mine number nine on the list uh okay
I don't think anybody's like doing a bell pepper slice on there.
No.
I've actually done that before.
It's not bad.
Really?
I don't,
it's not like I was like,
oh,
I got nothing else to put on this stupid burger.
Sometimes you just got to put stuff on there.
I get it.
Yeah.
Tried it out.
Didn't work out.
So,
Jan,
you got one so far,
the last two that I've said.
Hey,
it's my turn.
Oh,
I'm sorry.
Did you get one for all?
Last answer.
You've been losing so much today.
I know.
I don't blame you.
I don't blame you.
How about,
I used to do a thing
when I was a kid
but there's no way
this is on here
and I would never do it now
Oh please tell us
All right I'll just do it
I'll just do it
I used to put
Lay's potato chips on my burger
That's what I was one of the ones
I was gonna say
Put some chips on it baby
Yeah
I love that
Add a little crunch to it
You're gonna eat those chips
Anyway with your burger
Why not eat them
On your burger
I agree
I put those in
Tuna salad sandwiches too
Like just some lays
potato chips right on the top
That sounds good
barbecue or egg salad show me chips oh that was a good one though it was a good one yeah all right well
now i don't know i'm all lost the only thing i can think of is the oh cheap form of mayo egg oh
that's a good idea boy you just know you're breaking down all you make these down in their raw
ingredients yeah that's great nice i like that i think eggs a good one a fried egg good old fried egg round
top of there with a boom is it going to be runny though
Always makes me think about the Stimson's, we take 18 ounces of ground beef, soak it in rich creamery butter, then top it off with bacon, ham, and a fried egg.
We call it our good morning burger, and it's available.
Fried eggs are popular, though.
I'll bet this is at least on your list if it's not in the seven-slash.
Runny fried egg, right?
Yes, you got to keep the yolk, you got to keep the yolk runny because you want it oozing out the back of the burger when you take that first bite.
show me a Friday
Oh look at that
John look at you
If I had never said anything
You would have run the board
Yeah I think
I think yeah your partner there
Look the finisher are very
They're highly educated
Sophisticated people
All right they know stuff
For sure
That's fantastic
Oh my gosh well well freaking done
Brian what else was on this list
That we didn't get to
Yeah some of the ones you didn't get to
I did separate relish from pickles
because people put relish on their burgers.
Beetroot or beets, pickled beets.
It was the thing that I had the first time when we were in Australia,
and if I can, I'll get it any time.
I love beetroot on burgers.
Green chilies, so there's another form of pepper besides the jalapinos, green chilies.
Secret sauce, special sauce, animal sauce.
Another burger.
Somebody just does put another patty on there.
Bacon jam
Oh yeah
Bacon jam
Good
Okay
Just chili as opposed to green chili
Just like your red chili
We're doing that
Chili cheese burger
That's good
Yeah
Kimchi
Oh kimchi is so good
On a burger you guys
You have no idea
And finally somebody said
Scrimp salad
Shrimp salad
Was that you done away
That sounds like something you'd say
No I would
No I have had no cheese
And I have used
Pimenta cheese
Oh well that's
It's because you're a little bit.
It's pretty good.
It's not a criminal.
You're a food criminal.
It's not a go-to.
It's not bad.
It's not bad.
It's gross.
Well, that's awesome, though.
Congratulations.
This means you won.
You're a winner.
And you won the right way, really, just dominating.
And that's amazing.
So these codes are going to be yours, Jan.
They're going to come straight to you.
And mostly, I'm just excited the freaking phone call work this time.
It's like three times in a row.
It's a nice job.
Yeah, I was on my phone the previous times.
And now I'm on my computer and stuff.
So there you go.
And Jan, putting your codes in there reminded you, you gave me that awesome trivia question or trivia thing about each movie is a state or like basically 50 states, 50 movies match the movie to the state that it largely takes place in.
This thing is great.
I'm going to spend some more time with that before I give an answer because I don't want to just rush it on a save.
I have another one for you as well.
Oh, very nice.
Are you my friend on Discord?
Hey, wait, Jan, one quick thing before you go.
Can you say, how do you say congratulations in your native tongue?
Odin now?
That's it? Odin now?
Sure.
See?
See? There's no way I even came close.
There's no way I came even close because that's how that language is.
It's just like for pros only.
It's insane.
All right. Have a fantastic day.
And congratulations.
Hey, Donnaway, you did great.
Today, later today, 3.30 a.m. a.m. p.m.
you and I will be getting together for play retro and you for thinking man that was fast well yeah we did one Sunday and now we're going to do another one and today it's all about that banjo kazooie in the various games that came out of it yeah banjo kazooey on the n64 and the banjo toi which by the way I'm an idiot I didn't realize until recently that it was because it was part two there wasn't a new character called to no it wasn't a lot of you're not the only one that thought that back then though
There are a lot of people thought that.
So it'll be fun to clear that up.
It's 25 years old.
It's having a birthday.
Yeah, this past month, it turned 25-year-olds.
Rareware's amazing platform for the N64.
Yep, holds up, by the way.
Very good game.
Still fun.
And there's the version that's on...
Xbox.
Yeah, GamePass has a version that was basically up-resed and widescreened.
But they still kept most of it the way it was.
And if you've never played nuts and bolts, a game that came out on the 360,
Bandra Cazui nuts and bolts
such a good game
so good yeah
no it's not good
yeah what's that
that revenge thing on the
game boy yeah it's bad
I guess it's okay
no it's bad
I guess it's bad it's bad
I'm with you it's bad
I just I just like the
the wooden mask dude
that comes up and goes
hurry do you know
mojo
he's great
he's better he I always mix him up
in the crash bandicoot mask
yeah
always mix him up so badly
that
Until we did our Crash Bandicoot episode on Play Retro, I thought I had played Banjo Cazooey, never played it.
This is my first time playing it.
Yep.
Well, you missed out.
Well, now you've missed in, but before you missed out.
Yeah, I said that.
I said that on Twitter.
I was like, I feel sorry for all you chumps that played banjo Cazooey back when it came out and aren't playing it now in 2023 for the first time like me.
Yeah.
You guys are a bunch of chums.
Because now you get to hear NPCs that sound like this.
That's how everybody in this game talks.
It's ridiculous.
I love it.
Anyway, that's later today.
3.30 Mountain Time Play Retro is the podcast.
If you'd rather just grab that, wherever you get your podcast.
But we'll be here live at frogpants.
TV.
Brian Dunaway, have a fantastic rest of your day and kiss our buttons.
All right.
Off you goes.
We're going to take a break.
When we return, the venerable Tom Merritt will join us.
We'll get a little tech news this morning.
Always a nice way to kind of do our little mid of the show.
before that we've got to have a song
Brian you have a song
I have a song Scott
I have a song so uh
we're going to Alaska for this one
an indie pop folk singer
folk singer songwriter
named Ava Earl
A-V-A-E-A-R-L
just like it sounds
she uh she's been
called a lot by many people in her life
they say Ava you are a lot
uh
you're her loving amusement by her parents
mild frustration by her teachers
and joyful admiration
by a few key mentors.
This album that she's got coming out called Too Much
is basically all about being a lot.
This is the first single from the album.
It's called Jealous of Her,
a song about coping with unrequited feelings.
There's a topic that's hardly ever covered in music
is unrequited feelings,
but she manages to cover it very well.
This is the song, Jealous of Her.
Here is Ava Earle.
Had I met you many years ago, I probably wouldn't feel the way that I do now.
Had I seen all of your ego, I would have run off skates, oh, how am I falling in?
Oh, you cannot make a single player.
I'm falling for a boy who has to insist to me that he's really a man.
It's a competition like it's always been.
I wish that I can make you jealous of you.
Sometimes I wonder if you're really sure that I see you together and I'm jealous of you.
I think you'll think you lean into the act of bed and make me all these promises you're so full of shit
while you're either being honest or you can tell I like you and you enjoy it and am I falling in
for a boy who can't remember what I said.
Am I falling for a boy who has no space for me inside his pretty head?
It's a competition like it's always been.
I wish that I can make each other's off him.
Sometimes I wonder if you were really sure
And I see you together and I'm gladless with her
Oh
Oh
Oh
Would you rather? I don't care about it
I know you're just messing around
Do you know you're so unfair
I doubt it you got me right where you want me now
Way to kick me while I'm already down, down, down, down.
Well, it's a competition like it's always been.
I wish that I could make you jealous of him.
Sometimes I wonder if you're really sure
then I see you together
and I'm jealous of her.
Oh.
When you can't have a great lunch out,
have a great lunch in, Lippton Cup of Sue.
Quick!
modern styling
And we're back
Who was that again, that nice lady?
That was Ava Earle.
She is a lot,
and that's the brand new single,
jealous of her from her upcoming album,
Too Much.
Too much.
Oh, too much, not two weeks.
Too much weeks.
Too many weeks.
All right, Tom Merritt is swinging by the place.
I'm going to chat a little bit about the old technology.
Yeah, here's his little intro.
This is Tommy's room.
And he's thinking about his room.
Can you guess what he's thinking?
I have no idea what he's thinking.
His room.
He's just a mess.
That's what he's thinking.
That's what I'm thinking about mine, too.
I've got to do something about my messy room.
Tom Merritt is here.
Look at that.
What do you know?
It's a Wednesday that must be in.
Well, looky there.
Looky here.
Our old pal Tom joins us on Wednesdays, talks about the tech of the day in preparation for the daily tech news show.
And I love having you on, man.
It's good to have you back.
Well, it's good to be here.
Have you heard that Microsoft wants to buy Blizzard?
I've heard rumors that they have wanted to buy Blizzard.
Is this current news or am I hearing Tom from a year ago?
Two years ago.
Yeah.
Well, but mines are being focused on this two-year-old problem because July 18th is the deadline for Microsoft to finish the deal or have to pay Activision Blizzard stockholders as a penalty.
That is standard.
That is a standard thing.
When you go into a deal, you say, look, we don't want you drag in your heels.
If you're really going to buy us, you're going to buy us.
And if you don't buy us by this date, then you owe us money.
It's sometimes called a breakup fee, something like that.
And it happened with AT&T and T-Mobile.
If you remember, AT&T was going to buy T-Mobile.
They ended up not buying T-Mobile, had to pay T-Mobile a breakup fee.
So Microsoft would like to not have to pay that fee.
And the matter of fact, Activision Blizzard would prefer not to receive that fee.
They would prefer the deal go through, but from everything they've said.
So it was important on Monday when an injunction was issued.
That was the news yesterday, or an injunction was not issued, I should say.
A preliminary injunction had been sought by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to prevent the deal from being concluded by July 18th because the FTC has a full administrative court case, an administrative judge, hearing their objections, which is supposed to take place August 2nd.
And if they close the deal July 18th, well, then that complicates things for the court case.
so they wanted to stop it from happening.
The judge did not issue the preliminary injunction
because they looked at the facts of the case
and all the testimony and said,
it doesn't look like you're going to win, FTC.
I'm sorry, but we'd issue a preliminary injunction
if we thought, well, you'd hate to see this whole thing go through
and then Microsoft lose in court and have to unwind it.
But that's not the way the judge saw it.
The judge saw it as we'd hate to see us stop this
from happening, Microsoft incur a penalty, and then win in court. And then the whole thing would
have been unnecessary. They should have been allowed to go through. So the judge said, we're not
going to give you an injunction. A lot of headlines mispertrayed that as Microsoft has won approval.
They haven't won approval, but there's nothing stopping them from completing this merger in
every region except the UK. The UK has issued a report that says,
You cannot do this merger.
We are against it.
And so the option Microsoft would have is to buy Activision Blizzard and merge everywhere but the UK and leave a small version of Activision Blizzard independent in the UK.
That's an incredible mess, as you might imagine.
Nobody wants that.
But that would be where they were left.
So that brings us to today's news.
After the FTC court case, which makes it look very unlikely that the U.S. is going to be able to stop this merger, the U.K.
said, we will pause our litigation to stop you in this merger. Microsoft, if you pause your
litigation, let's talk. So they did that yesterday. And today, again, I think this is being
misimplied in some headlines. The UK said, look, our decision is our decision. We paused to
see if they are willing to restructure the deal. But if the deal is as is, we're against it. We're
not changing that. A lot of people are taking that to mean, oh,
the UK is digging in, they're not going to give in, it doesn't necessarily mean that. It's more
likely a hardball negotiating tactic to put it out there in public like, we're not going to change
our minds very easily. You're going to have to do something significant in order for us to
want to reopen an investigation technically and approve this deal by your deadline of July 18th,
which is six days away. Yeah, I was going to say this is the whole crux of the problem. We're
racing a clock here. So all of this stuff is all well and good. I actually think it's very
healthy for territories to have concerns and to address those and to have hearings and go through
all the proper rigmarole to get all that stuff sussed out. I think that's good. And whatever
their decision is is also fine because that's what it is. It is whatever it is. But all of this
is happening as they are heading toward this like finish line deadline. They have to do this like fast.
or they've have to pay the fee of the fine.
I don't know if there's a way around that.
Like if, is there a way for Microsoft to say,
all right, look, we fully intended to be done by now.
But because we're hung up over here and here,
we think these couple of things will work out.
We will get past them.
But we're going to need a little more time.
Can Activision agree to that?
I think if there are material reasons like, okay,
the UK CMA looks like it's going to agree,
but it's going to agree on July 9.
then yes, I think I think you can you can get Activision Blizzard's lawyers to sign off and say like, all right, we'll do an extension, you know, we'll do some clever accounting and maybe you, we refund you the fee or so. Yeah, I don't really pretend to know all the ins and outs, but I know there are a few options, but I know they don't generally like to exercise those options unless they're 100% certain that that deal is going to go through.
Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
There's also talk of appeal today on the FTC side.
Is that coming across your stuff?
Yeah, the FTC can still appeal this.
They have until July 14th to appeal.
It's not likely that they would win on appeal.
It's also possible that a judge would turn down their appeal.
But more likely the judge would hear the appeal and overrule them,
and then they could appeal again to the Supreme Court, I suppose.
Lina Khan, who is the chair of the FTC,
is leaning that way, apparently.
This is all, you know, sources say kind of stuff.
But almost all experts look at it and say,
yeah, she's got a couple things as far as the definition of competition
that she could push on.
But there's the facts of the case are pretty much against her.
And the way the judge laid it out in denying the preliminary injunction is pretty
airtight.
Most people wouldn't want to appeal that decision.
So we're waiting.
We're waiting to see what the FTC is going to do.
However, if they appeal July 14th,
they don't know that they're going to get a court date in time for July 18th.
And it would have to be expedited.
So they're going to want to appeal fast and get this thing faxed.
Because if they get a preliminary injunction to stop a merger from happening on July 18th,
they have to get that injunction before July 18th.
Yeah, July is busy.
Turns out for this stuff.
You guys need to get your shiz together.
If you want to have some of the conversations and arguments around the periphery of this,
like what does it actually mean for you as a gamer, this sort of stuff,
there's a lot of that happening in our Discord right now and has been for a while.
Great place for that.
Lots of respectful people talking about the nuances and on the ground effects of this kind of merger.
So go check that out, frogpans.com slash Discord to find out more.
And make sure you listen to the Daily Tech News Show today about this and other great tech stories.
They will surely be on display today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time, and I'll be there as well on display. So watch for that.
We will. We'll have you in the middle of the table under a big glass dough.
I can't wait. I'm sure it'll be air-conditioned, and that's all I ask for.
Oh, seriously.
Tom Merritt, there's probably other cool stuff happening in your world. Anything you'd like to promote or mention here before you go?
Yeah, two things. One, a little shout out to Marik in the chat here during the live stream.
good analysis, Marek. Microsoft, in Marek's opinion, is probably going to restructure and the CMA will sign it off, but also Activision and Microsoft don't want to extend their deadline because that gives the FTC more options on stopping the deal if they extend it. So they kind of want to keep the pressure on and just make the deal. If they can get the UKCMA to sign off, then that strategy works. So good, good. I like to recognize good analysis in chat when I see it.
He's great. He's a great follow.
That guy's awesome everywhere.
He's one of my favorite people in our community.
He's freaking great.
I also want to remind people that there is a new weekly Android show that is probably very familiar to people who watched an old weekly Android show.
The hosts of All About Android, which is no longer being produced, have started a new show called Android Faithful.
And the first episode is out.
They recorded it last night.
It's Wendway Dow and Ron Richards and Mishol.
all and talking about all the Android news of the week.
Now, this first episode is talking about all the Android news for a couple of weeks
because it's been a minute since they did their last episode of the old show.
But if you are somebody who is curious about Android or uses Android on a daily basis,
you're going to want to get this in your life.
So if you haven't already, go check out Android Faithful.
Just type that into your podcatcher or go to AndroidFaithful.com.
That sounds great.
Congratulations on the launch for all of them and you.
And we'll see you today at two.
Thanks, man.
Bye, Tom Merritt.
See it, Tom.
Oh, I almost hit Remove Friend.
That would be bad.
Oh, don't do that.
Yeah, we can't have that.
Let's see if Discord does the thing.
No, we're good.
We're good.
Don't know what the difference is.
No idea.
Never going to understand.
Randy Jordan is coming in because we got to do recommendals.
There's shit we've seen.
We've got to vent on it.
We've got to talk about it.
And that's what we do.
So here's that.
Enjoy.
Well, what do you recommend?
We recommend stuff on streaming services, and we do it every Wednesday.
And this Wednesday, this fine Wednesday, Randy Jordan, aka Randy Deluxe joins us.
Hello, Randy.
Look at this burger thing is showing us up.
I know.
It's a Randy burger.
Oh, wow.
Your audio attack.
Yeah.
At least you've got a good background because we can't hear a word you're saying.
Yeah.
All I heard was like a, there we go.
Say something.
Nope.
Nope.
We heard like, oh, now you're back.
I suppose it's working.
There you are.
Now it's working.
Now you're good.
we can hear you now look at that burger behind you man you know uh burger meister meister burger right
as the as the as the self-declared frogpants burger expert i i have thoughts and those thoughts are
man it's all good everything is good like you can make it all work i'm not a fan of adding too much
umami i know some people are some people like to add the bacon the mushrooms etc i like to i like
to let the burger itself do all the umami talking but it's all good man like you were going down
the list. I'm going, I'm like, hmm, is kimchi going to show up on here? Because that's good
on a burger. Like, you could just, yeah. How do you feel about a burger, uh, the, the,
the patty, ground beef, uh, mixed with the grilled mushrooms prior to grilling? How do you feel
about that? Certainly the onions, 100%. Oh, onions I could do too. Yeah, but I'm, I don't know what it is.
Animal style right there. Something about mixing stuff in that meat is kind of my jam. I like it.
There's been so many, uh, attempts, right? Like, so like there was a small chain of restaurants here
called Slater's 50-50 that would do
50% be 50% pork
in the paddy.
And like you know, you can
you can do that.
It's not a big deal.
Okay.
It's fine.
All right.
It's allowed.
That's it.
It's allowed.
Like I have this like this like fundamental concept, right?
Of like the most basic things that you need in a burger.
But like I just went to in and out the other day and I asked for all three kinds of onions.
Like who cares?
Do whatever you want.
Yeah.
You're living large, man.
That's cool.
Braynebo Bright reminded me by the way that the menu,
the movie with Nicholas Holt
and Anya Taylor Joy
and Ray Fines.
If you haven't seen it's fantastic and it's got
one of the best on-screen
creations of a burger you'll
ever see. Really?
It does for hamburgers what
the movie chef did for grilled cheese sandwiches.
Really? Okay.
I got to watch that. I still haven't
gotten around to that. You got to watch it.
And yeah, if you haven't seen
chef, you need to watch chef, you need to watch
the chef show. You need to
you need to watch anything that Roy Choi ever appears on.
You need to go to Vegas, go to the Park MGM and eat at Best Friends because it is so good.
All right.
You make me want to go there right now, Randy, and do that and then go see the Spice Girl show
that's at the Excalibur that I was two weeks too early to see.
It's almost frustrating living out here and being a foodie because, like, there's so many
great options and they're so expensive and it's all the time, you know?
Right. And so like just any given day, like I just mentioned Roy Troy, man, he's got this awesome food truck. It's everywhere. You can just go have it any day you want and ruin yourself. Yeah. I'm ready to ruin myself now after all this burger talk. And just one last mention and I'm not going to reset the counter because I'm going to say this very carefully, but the movie, the menu features two characters, two actors who are in a movie that you love or in the sequel, the upcoming sequel.
of a movie that you love Scott.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Nicholas Holt.
I know one of them's in a Bob Odenkirks and something, right?
Yeah, and that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the menu with Nicholas Holt.
I'm thinking of the bear again.
I keep thinking of the bear.
You want to witness Nicholas Holt,
and then you'll get furious if you don't see Anya Taylor Joy also in the menu.
Well, I'm, uh, is there anyone else in there from Mad Max?
Probably not.
You said furious.
That's so cute.
Furious.
Fury us.
All right.
Well, let's get to our recommendals.
We're going to, oh, we're Nicola's today.
She's still on vacation.
She's in Disneyland.
We hope she's having a great time.
Yeah, I'm expecting to have dinner with Nicole and her family later today.
Oh, very nice.
Very, very nice indeed.
And we're going to go over to downtown Disney, see the Spags.
We might have Jazz Kitchen, Napa Rose.
I don't know.
Yeah, the new updated Jazz Kitchen.
Is it?
Is it updated?
What did they do?
What did they changed?
They redid the, they redid the,
the outside, and they changed the menu.
Oh.
That's, I don't, I don't know if it's good.
All right.
Like, I really, like, for a long time, they were trying to get us to call it Ralph Brennan's drag.
Yes.
That's not going to happen.
But I just want to go get a big bowl of gumbo.
Who's the Ralph?
Who's the Ralph Brennan guy?
Am I supposed to know that name?
Who's that guy?
Ralph Brennan.
He's just the guy who has the jazz kitchen at Disney.
That's it.
Okay.
He's not some famous otherwise guy I should know.
Not that I know.
No.
Uh, they had good at Tufei when I went there one time.
So, I don't know.
And I imagine all that stuff is still going to be on the menu.
I think they've, they've, oh, wow, they took shrimp and grits off the menu, says
Jojo.
What?
What?
Yeah, and, and I'll say the new design is very, it feels very sanitized, like, it doesn't
feel like the old jazz kitchen as far as like the interior.
The old interior felt like Tiana's, uh, from, from, uh, from, uh, Princess and the Frog.
We've got 180 degrees on this thing in like two minutes.
So now we think maybe don't go to the jazz kitchen anymore.
Oh, no, all I said was that they've updated it and changed the menu.
I haven't eaten there, but from what I've seen, it does look sanitized.
They made some really good pickled onions once that I was there.
And I remember being grateful that I ate there that day.
And that's all I remember at that place, the pickle.
I have to go to any restaurant that I can find that has soul food or Cajun
food because there's a chance that I might get fried okra, which is a thing that I need on a
regular basis.
Kim made fried oak.
Well, it was before we all got sick, but it was an amazing batch.
I wish you'd have been here to sample some of it.
It was very good.
I love how you guys keep saying this episode, like, 4th of July, made Tina sick.
Fried okra made everybody sick at Scott's house.
No, that is not what made us sick.
That is not what made us sick.
Tina definitely did not get pneumonia from a low taste style corn.
the com.
I think she got it from Fan Expo dirty people.
That's what I think happened.
I'm sure.
That's our guess too.
Somebody breathing too hard.
All right.
Well, let's get to these recommendals.
These are streaming items that we've seen.
Brian,
we're going to start with you.
You've got a clip.
How do you want to set this up?
Yeah, this is a newer movie.
And very similar to the first time I tried shaving.
It's got a couple of necks.
Oh, good Lord.
All right, here we go.
Let me explain time to you.
Okay.
I was wrong about you
I should have realized
what you were capable of
when you were so eager to join me
I don't think I was eager
I think that you caught me at a low moment
and you maybe manipulated me
to you know no no no no no no
no no no no no no I use my power
but I didn't need to use it on you
you were a lawyer who wanted to get rich
of a real estate deal
you're the one who used me
You used my power because you're a husk, an empty void that nothing can fill.
The only thing that gave your life any meaning was my power.
The power you used to bring me victims while you pretended to be one yourself.
However, I'm the real victim here.
I'm the one you swore to protect.
And you...
Evandon me!
Wow, I didn't know he was that over the top in this.
Just in case you were worried that Nicholas Cage wasn't going to be full-on Nicholas Cage.
That's exactly where I picked that clip, just to put your fears to rest.
Wow.
I don't know what you meant to say.
I thought he would be less, I don't know what I thought.
I haven't seen this movie yet, but I thought it would be a little less over the top.
But that's, wow.
Yeah, it's very over the top.
I mean, it has Aquafina and Ben Schwartz.
additionally. It must be
a bit OTT, right? It is
because of all those people he mentioned
is so over the top. The movie is Renfield
and it's currently streaming on
Peacock.
Watch a few commercials at the beginning.
No interruptions further.
If you've got the subscription.
Yay. Nice.
It's, yeah,
basically
Nicholas Cage plays
the version of Count Dracula that
that
oh my God,
Nutlan Cheney.
Why am I forgetting the guy's name?
The original guy.
The original guy.
Oh, Bella Legosi.
Thank you very much.
Teesley's.
Bellegosie's dead, by the way.
He sure is.
Yeah.
Basically continues the character that Bayla Legosi played to the point where they do some fun stuff with the original Dracula movie with Baylorogosie that is brilliant, brilliant stuff that you have to see to believe.
uh nicholas holt across from nicholas cage see i did there a couple of nicks nicholas holt um plays renfield
which is uh he's the he's the assistant of uh Dracula and because he's the assistant
Dracula has given him some uh like a small part of his powers and he basically uh gives him just
enough to where he's got some speed and some strength and and stuff like that but uh instead of
drinking blood like Dracula does,
Renfield keeps those
abilities by eating bugs, much like
the original Brom Stoker
novel. Sure.
And Renfield's job, as you heard
in that clip, is to keep bringing Dracula
bodies, especially when Dracula
needs to recover from
being attacked by
vampire hunters.
This
went through so much
stuff to finally
happen. This was actually going to be
part of, I think it was going to be part of the,
well, a version of Renfield was going to be part of the
dark universe. What was that the
universal dark universe? Yeah. The mummy was supposed to start
it and didn't really work out. And the mummy sucked
unfortunately and because of that
they came up with a new version. By the way, Robert
Kirkman is the guy who pitched it, and that's the same Robert Kirkman as Walking Dead, Invincible.
He's the writer, and one of the producers, yes, one of the producers of the movie.
You were going to ask something, Randy?
Wasn't Nick Cage involved in Shadow of the Vampire?
He was involved in Kiss of the Vampire.
Was he going to be involved in the new, the Dark Universe vampire movie?
Well, so Shadow of the Vampire is that John Malcovich,
Willem Defoe film from about 20 years ago.
Oh, yeah.
That is definitely in Dark Universe, but is a sort of like...
You mean the Nosferatu thing?
Is that the one?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Malcovich plays Nosephratu, and I just, I'm sorry, he plays...
Well, anyway, let me look.
I just looked it up.
Yes, Nick Cage was one of the producers of that movie.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So, yeah, so Nick Cage, he's had his toe dip.
in the blood-filled coffin for a long time.
Stuff like this.
Now, first thing, you know, some people are going to do is rush over to
Rotten Tomatoes and see how it is.
It's got a low, like a 50% somewhere critic score, but a much higher audience score.
I lean more towards the audience score on this one.
I don't think it's as high as the 79% I think is what Rotten Tomatoes has.
I'd give it a 70%.
I think it was a lot of fun.
You mentioned Aquafina and Ben Schwartz.
Ben Schwartz, I mean, those two.
Ben Schwartz, between the two, is the way more over-the-top actor in this film than Aquafina.
Aquafina dials it in a little bit because she's playing a cop that is tangled up with this whole vampire business.
We can also ignore Shori Agdashu.
I know how to say her name very well, but I love her so much and everything.
Yes, from The Expans.
And, I mean, she is the one.
woman with the voice. That's basically all you need to know is when you hear a very unique voice
in film, whether it's deep or dark water or the expanse, it's Shora Agadashu,
Agdishu, whatever, a slu. There's an all in there. Agda shlu. She's amazing. Everything she does.
She is. She's fantastic. It's a, you know what? It's a lot of fun. If you go in, if you go in not
expecting high, like, you know, you go in expecting a comedy. This is a comedy.
It's a very tongue-in-cheek comedy, and it's done very, very well in that aspect.
Then you're not going to be disappointed.
I wasn't disappointed.
I went in not expecting anything, and I wasn't disappointed at all by what they did.
I wish rock tomatoes wouldn't put a green splotch on things that are, this is currently at 58%.
I feel like the green splotch ought to be a little bit lower.
30% lower should get the green splotch.
Maybe a yellow something, a yellow tomato.
like a not quite ripe yet tomato oh yeah i see some granularity because you go from rotten to or
you go from fresh to rotten right that's 60 yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a little abrupt you're not
wrong i wonder if they ever change that like i also really appreciate that like the point of
recommendals is for you to find stuff that's sort of in the middle right yeah yeah and and and let us
know that it's okay to watch yeah and that this one uh i will also let you know small kids probably
not for them. There's no nudity, but there is a lot of gore, a lot of violence. A couple guys get
stabbed by the arms ripped off of another guy at one point. So, great. Be prepared that you're
going to have a little bit of that to contend with for the chidrin, for the small, small chidron.
Based on that audio, as Nick Cage is, as goofball as it sounds like, it sounds like he's just...
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I thought I started with that. Just in case, yeah, you're getting full Nicholas
You're getting the full cage.
So that's not him.
That's not me just not having the visual.
And so does it work the same?
Like it really is him being that cheeseball.
It's, you know, basically all that stuff that he saved up from not doing it in the Five Nights at Freddy's thing that he did, the Wunderland.
All the stuff he saved up from that, he decided to just put it in here on top of his own.
Great.
On top of his own.
Just let it rip.
A guy will take a few minutes and do pig and some other really good work.
And then another one of the.
He never full-on gives us the alphabet.
A, B, C, G, E-F-G, H-I-J-K, Elemental P!
I want them to, though.
I want that.
But you do get a lot of that stuff, that delivery, that style of delivery in this.
Actually, this is my hottest hot take about Nick Cage.
He ruined Kickass for me.
And, like, that movie would have been so much better without him.
Sorry.
Really?
I like them in that.
For me, for me, in that particular moment.
movie. Like, I like Nick Cage. I like his
schick. Sure. That movie
just, he ruined it for
me. Yeah. Interesting. How'd you
feel about him in, um, Spider-Verse 1?
They have, uh,
Spider-in-Warrant. Awesome. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. He's the perfect
voice for that character. Okay.
Interesting. I thought I kind of liked him
for the same reason in the other one, but maybe
I don't know. I haven't seen Kickass in a long time.
I'll go back. Yeah. I definitely need
to give that one a rewatch. It's been years
since I think, I don't think I see it since I saw it
in theaters, just the one time.
I'm the oddball on that. I held it to this
weird standard. And I like
the movie. There's a thing
he does driving crazy. Anyway, let's
get to, okay, so that's again, Renfield.
It's Renfield on Peacock.
Randy, let's pull yours up.
What is your clip you got here, Randy?
What do you got here? I'm going to go back in time a little bit.
I just rewatched one of my favorite movies.
It's a rom-com. You're about to
hear three of the actors in the
film, not the lead that you might
expect, but three
three of the actors
and they're all
having an evening at home
their father and his adult children
a woman and her brother
and this is coming from our
we've now been talking about
like Rotten Tomato Scores for the last six
weeks or something and this is coming
from a really strange place
like this to me is the weirdest
movie that ever hit Rotten Tomatoes
in terms of the score
the score is currently 45%
it led to me completely disavowing myself of certain critics because they were so completely wrong.
Like Rex Reed, the film critic, this is the movie at which I stopped ever paying any attention to Rex Reed because he was so wrong.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time.
It's currently streaming.
So we're rewatched.
All right.
Here's the clip.
Rex Reed, by the way, part of his problem is he lives so far up his own ass, that guy.
Yes.
I can't read his stuff.
Anyway, here you go.
This is Randy's clip.
Let's see what we got.
Happy birthday to you.
And you don't look at day over 25.
Yeah, right.
And Doug's muscles aren't pharmaceutically enhanced.
What are you talking about?
He's an herb supplement.
They'd be purchased at any health food store.
Check this out.
Check out these glutes.
Rock hard, baby.
Pretty sweet, huh?
Stop it.
You're going to make it.
me throw up on the cake.
Okay.
Just open your present.
Okay.
Let's see what we're going.
Oh, the sixth sense.
Hey, when I'm done doing the dishes, do you guys want to watch it?
Sure.
I know very little of 51st dates.
You're going to have to sell me on it.
Have you not seen this guy?
Never seen it.
Oh, wow.
Good.
At the same time that critics like Nick Shager were
panning this movie
Roger Ebert
and I think
well I'm not sure that
everybody in that little
that little zone I'll agree with this
but at the same time Roger Ebert called it
the only great rom-com
of the last 20 years
like he he was like there was
when Harry met Sally and then
no great rom-coms and then this
and I agree I completely
agree weird I find
this to be a near perfect film
I want to call out Blake Clark as Drew Barrymore's dad here.
He's also in some other, like he's in the water boy.
He has a pretty prominent role in the water boy.
And you might think, oh, well, that's not much of a serious actor.
It's just some guy that Adam Sandler keeps putting in movies.
Blake Clark kills it in this movie.
He has to play, like this scene that I just played for you is like the end of him acting his ass off.
as, you know, an older, an aging father of a daughter who has a terrible condition and he is
playing along with her problem. And every time she's looking at him, he's so incredible. And then
she looks away and you see the grief on his face. And that's the kind of thing that makes a
comedy better. Like that sort of back and forth where you have people who have genuine concerns
that you can sympathize with as a viewer. And
then there's also really high, you know, high joke, high hitting jokes. Yeah, he's, he's great. He's
the replacement slinky dog voice on Toy Story, by the way. Oh, really? Yeah. When Jim Varney died,
he was, he took over and he nails it. You can't even tell. I always, in my head, I'm like,
oh, they just keep using old Jim Varney tracks that never, you know, never got around to using or something.
But no, it's this dude. You also heard Drew Barrymore's brother, Sean Astin with a Lisp or some of whatever,
a lisp. He's very funny in this movie. And it's got, it's got all of Adam Sandler's
regulars, right? It's got Rob Schneider. It's got Alan Covert. But there's also some other
things. There's some things that just come out of nowhere in this movie. And Maya Rudolph has
this cool little part where all she has to do is show up in one scene and really sell one joke
and she does. And there's a, uh, a Hawaiian actress named Amy.
he plays the part of a sort of like adopted mom for Drew Barrymore and she's just
awesome I just can't I can't I can't stand it that you haven't seen this man I keep saying
this every week you're avoiding Rob Schneider for some reason you won't bring him up at all
and he's like third in the credits how does Rob Schneider he's pretty much what you what
you expect from a Rob Schneider performance yeah I kind of what I mean you could say it's his
best performance but he's just not he's not really that important to the movie you know you've got
when you've already got the bacon and the cheese and the secret sauce he's basically and the pickles
he's basically uh the little uh boy what what lettuce he's the lettuce that that accidentally fell
onto the burger as you were doing it oh yeah i don't need and i'll probably take that part off you're
right i'll just move that off the plate yeah i see dan acroids in this probably small role i'm guessing
What's he doing in there?
It's relatively small.
He plays a doctor who's aware of
and treating Drew Barrymore's condition.
By the way, Brian Ibit
is talking about this movie a little bit
in terms of time loop movies.
It is not technically a time loop movie.
The one character,
Drew Barrymore's character,
is she has an amnesia
that occurs every night of her life.
So she keeps basically expecting
to be waking up on the same day
every morning.
I don't make the rule.
rules on what's the time loop movie and what isn't. The rules are just presented to me and this is a
time loop movie for Drew Barrymore. Yeah. Okay. All right. Sounds about right. You can see how
in the hands of a good filmmaker, that character could be very fun, like fun to, you know, to examine,
fun to put some jokes around. Yeah. But it's a Peter Siegel film. Peter Segal, it's by far his best
movie. Like, there's not like, uh, naked gun three. I don't know, I don't know what,
what his second best is, but this is by far his best movie. Um, he really comes at this
with just enough humanity, right? That you aren't, you realize you're not making fun of this
character and their condition at all. There's really, there's practically no jokes about her and
the condition. It's everybody around her and all of the nonsense that they get into that makes
the movie so fun and funny.
And then it is a rom-com, and it's a real actual rom-com.
The romance between Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore works.
They were in a previous movie together, right?
What is it, a wedding singer?
Wedding singer, yeah.
And they have real chemistry, and it's good chemistry.
And the very end of the movie, the last scene, is just beautiful.
It's genuinely beautiful.
And I think Peter Siegel deserves credit.
Again, Peter Siegel, not Peter Seagel.
You're not going to get a Carl Castle answering machine recording at the end of this film.
By the way, I will say that in thinking about it, this movie is more a time loop movie for everybody but Drew Barrymore.
And it's less of a time loop.
It's a Drew Loop movie, which is kind of a time loop, but a Drew Loop.
But also, and you know, you can talk about this much more at a different times, Brian.
Yeah, maybe in August I will.
The beauty of the film, the beauty of the film is how everyone,
ends up working together to solve the problem that's created by her condition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they do.
And like, that's not even a spoiler, Scott, because again, it's a rom-com.
You're going to, you're going to, they need a resolution.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So you know what?
I'll get around.
It sounds like something she'd like too.
I don't think she's seen it.
She would love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know why we haven't seen it.
We'll, we'll get this on.
It's on HBO Max.
And Scott, um, now I,
A-list celebrities shy of a Hallmark movie.
That's right.
That's right.
And I want to,
I want to modify what I said last week now, Scott.
I want to suggest that you watch
51st dates before Palm Springs
because Palm Springs was made by people
who've clearly seen 51st dates many times.
Oh, interesting.
That's interesting.
They got their inspiration from there.
All right.
Yeah, and I'll correct it.
It's a three A-list star surplus
of a Hallmark movie.
If you take away all the,
everybody you know and maybe leave one person
from an 80s sitcom, then it's a Hallmark film.
Those guys, I just found out today Hallmark's launching a cruise line, a Christmas cruise line, a cruise ship.
Of course they are.
Yeah.
And I'm like, no, I'm never getting on that boat.
Do they have a dating night on there where you can only come if you're a high power executive from the big city and they're going to match you up with the flower shop owner from the small town in what you grew up?
He has to wear plaid and jeans.
And she has to be wearing smart business attire.
It's all going to have to be that way.
You're right.
Those are them's the rules.
Them's the brakes.
And I just want to say one more thing about Rotten Tomatoes.
This is one of the exceptions that prove the rule.
Rotten Tomatoes is really, really useful.
But it only gets really useful for an individual like me when you're able to go in and say,
oh, here's a list of critics that I pretty much always agree with.
And here's some critics that I often don't.
Then you can really use those numbers, right?
Because, like, there's no explaining the Postman at 9% except, except one.
when you go and you remove the reviewers, the critics that you disagree with, and you really
underline the ones you do.
Like, that's, it's really helpful because there's only like three critics in all of those,
that list, right, for the postman who liked it and I like it.
And so that really helps me identify them, right?
And so you can make rotten tomatoes better by just doing a little like, you're giving
me, like, you're giving me the idea and not like I can do anything with it.
But rotten tomatoes should have, like you log in and you rate.
the movies that you've seen. And basically it says, oh, well, you tend to agree with these
reviewers and not these. So you get your own personal. Here's what we think you'll think of
of this movie based on your agreement with these critics and disagreement with these other
critics. And that goes back 20 years. When Rotten Tomatoes first came out, that was the plan.
Oh, really? And the most prominent critics lobbied against it constantly. They
really disliked that they they they they felt like it was uh somehow you know opposed to their
best interests yeah well that would make it so that would make it so yeah i guess it is kind
of the netflix algorithm except based based on with taking the quote unquote professional critics
out of the mix and basing it completely on how you agree with other ordinary joe netflix
subscribers as opposed to a mix of Netflix subscribers and critics.
And another topic we should talk about sometime is how the algorithms get worse.
When the Netflix algorithm first came out, it was so good.
And it's like over the years, it's gotten way more dependent on what somebody's telling it.
It needs to push.
No, you know what?
It's gotten bad for us, Randy, because of film sack.
Because Netflix sees the crap that we have to watch for film sack and says, oh, you like
Coward the Duck? All right. How about Spice World? Or how about that's kind of the same thing I'm saying. Like Netflix, Netflix isn't like, even if I downvote something, Netflix is like, but you watch the whole thing. But you watch it. Yeah, right. Yeah, the computer knows what we did. They know. All right. Well, let's get to my clip. This is a movie that I meant to see when it came out. It was accolated to death and back. And I love the director and I love everything about these movies. So why I didn't see it? I don't know.
But I got in a mood recently.
I ended up watching, like, three of this director's films this last week.
And this was awesome.
So here's my clip.
It is an extremely common mistake.
People think the writer's imagination is always at work
that he's constantly inventing an endless supply of incidents and episodes,
that he simply dreams up his stories out of thin air.
In point of fact, the opposite is true.
Once the public knows you're a writer,
they bring the characters,
and events to you and as long as you maintain your ability to look and to carefully listen
these stories will continue to stop it stop it don't do it
do it uh will continue to seek you out uh over your lifetime
all right that's a very early scene in the grand of budapest hotel a west anderson film from
2014, which won best picture that year and was nominated for a trillion others.
It was a big, probably his most successful film in terms of awards, I believe.
And everyone's got their favorite stuff.
People are like, oh, I prefer Moonrise Kingdom or I like Fantastic Mr. Fox or whatever it is.
Everybody's got their favorite Wes.
Yeah.
My favorite is all of it.
I've yet to see Wes Anderson movie I didn't like.
Even the ones that are considered weak like the Darjeeling Limited, I still.
think that's a pretty good movie.
And I watched, so I watched Fantastic Mr. Fox at this and French Dispatch over the weekend.
And I really liked all of it.
But Grand Budapest Hotel, there's a reason that thing was so critically loved.
I think it is really freaking good.
There's an energy about it that is just so well-paced.
It's kind of nonstop.
And I don't mean it in an action way, but just kind of like a,
It's nonstop Wes Anderson is what it is.
And this is all just to prepare me to watch Asteroid City, which comes out today, I think, or yesterday on rental.
I can rent it now.
I think yesterday, yeah.
So I'm going to rent that this week.
But I love this movie.
I think Ray F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F.E. He's amazing.
Matthew Almerich
I don't say his name
or Mathau Almerich
he plays the young boy
that F. Murray Abraham
plays later
it is full of all the people
usually see in these movies
by him William DeFoe's in it
Adrian Brody's in it
Jeff Goldblum is in it
Jude Law
Edward Norton
Bill Murray of course
Seisbury Ronan
Searsha Ronan
She just does her
straight up Irish accent
She rhymes with inertia
That's right
Claire not listening
I hope
Jason Swartzman, of course, you have to have him. Tilda Swinton, who's very commonly in his stuff now. That voice you heard in the clip was Tom Wilkinson. He plays the old version of Jude Law when he's older. And then you go back in time and kind of see it from his perspective. Owen Wilson's barely in it, but he's in it. So all the usual people that Wes Anderson drags around with him show up in this. But one that surprised me that I'm not used to seeing in West Anderson movies is Harvey Kytel, who at first is unregor.
recognizable as his character
Ludwig and he's part of the whole prison break
stuff. He's so
good in this
and under the direction of Wes Anderson that I
was just eaten everything up
that Harvey Keitel brought with him
and he's shirtless and bald and
that's all I'm going to say. Really? Oh awesome.
I forgot about it. I need to watch
it again. I watched one that first came out
and I'd
completely forgotten about it so I think I need to
give him another looksy.
It's just to give you the awards rundown, Scott. It was
nominated for nine Oscars
at won four Oscars that year.
None of the acting Oscars were
a part of that. But it was
nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography.
You got to always talk about Robert Yeoman.
When you talk about a West Anderson film,
like Robert Yeoman is just
a genius cinematographer
that does things that you don't see
in other movies.
Did it not, it wasn't nominated for screenplay?
So it won for
costume, makeup.
original music I'm sorry score original score and production design I thought it won the best picture why did I think that I'm smoking crack who won no no it's 2014 so 2015 it would have been uh so that was that would be bird man oh most overrated winners that to ever happen that's right I remember it being a real tooth and nail between these two people were arguing about even on the show I think we were making bets about it um
way back then. Well, and now that we have the benefit of a long time of hindsight, it should have gone to
imitation game or Selma. Like, there's really awesome. Yeah, there were a lot. I liked, yeah,
I liked Birdman, but yeah, there were so many better movies that came out that year. By the way,
he's working on his second role doll adaptation called The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar,
and it's going to be an exclusive Netflix coming out by the end of the year.
heard about that is it a um it's a standalone film though right not like a series as far as we know yeah just a just a standalone as opposed like a miniseries yeah yeah it appears to just be a single film very much looking forward to that i love aisle of dogs i love fantastic mr fox his his eye for that stuff is so good oh my gosh could we could we ever do like bottle rocket for film sack you think is that the one yeah well we did we did the steve steve steve zu thing we did the yeah yeah
Oh, that's true. We did Life Aquatic.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And I really liked Life Aquatic.
I did too.
I think I feel like all of his mainline movies are sackable.
And I say that with love.
Like, I think Rushmore is a fine film.
And I think it would be fun to sack because it's, there's, it's weird, right?
I think the Royal Tannenbaum is a fine film.
I think Darjeeling Limited's a fine film.
Like, I'm about to watch Moonrise's Kingdom with my kid because it's the
only one that's PG-13.
These are all R-rated movies.
And I'm really excited for his first, you know, his first Wes Anderson.
Yeah, it's a force in our house.
My daughter has this giant coffee table book that she's had for years.
It just, like, goes through all the, like, the framing and the color schemes.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, he has such a specific style that he's easy to imitate.
He's easy to parody.
SNL did a great, great Wes Anderson parody.
obviously the stuff we've been seeing with the Star Wars stuff online.
Lord of the Rings.
I heard of the Rings by Wesa Henderson.
I heard an interview with Edward Norton recently where they asked him about something.
And he basically, the conversation turned to in the same year that he made,
well, that's what it was Moonrise Kingdom.
He made $4,000.
Basically got day rate paid.
And for the same year he did the Hulk, the Incredible Hulk.
got 20 million for that movie or 18 million or something. And they're like, why would you even
bother with Moonrise Kingdom? And he goes, you don't understand. The reason these movies are full of
the greatest talent acting has ever produced. Like one Wes Anderson movie has more acting talent in it
than the rest of the year, right? It's crazy. He says, they're not there to make money,
including Wes Anderson. They don't make money. They're there to be in a Wes Anderson film.
And that's all they care about.
They don't care if it's cheap.
They don't care if it's low pay pay.
They just want to be in his movies.
And I thought that was fascinating.
Because I'm sure that's true.
That's probably true of a bunch of directors.
Like people would kill to be in a Scorsese movie or they'd kill to be in a, I don't know,
Spielberg movie or something.
But Edward Thornton, like, we don't get paid shit on those movies and I don't care because I love him.
In that interview, Norton actually said that he figures he lost like $50,000 overall because
he had to pay, you know, he paid for his travel and his lodging.
and so forth like that it was like a labor of love he would do it again yeah and he has he keeps being
in his movies he's still in the new one so i guarantee you he's gotten paid very well for subsequent
wes anderson he's probably done fine i'm sure but uh the point the main point is it's like this
this is just a no tour that brian's right easy to duplicate but if you duplicate it people
will call you on it you can't duplicate it and have anyone take you seriously you can only get
away with parody you can't yeah you can't get away with anything i just love it so anyway i
highly recommend this. This is on Hulu
currently. I bounced around a bit
because the other one
French Dispatch, I believe, is on Prime.
So I went from
Hulu to Prime, and I'm
back on Hulu for Fox,
fantastic Mr. Fox, but it's kind of all over
the place. But this one is on Hulu. It's the
Grand Budapest Hotel. I
say it's the best thing I ever watched
Ray Fines do. Freaking love them in this.
That and Quiz show are my two
favorites. It's funny that we had
Nicholas Holt and Ray Fines in our
recommendals and now you need to watch the menu.
Oh, and I gave this wrong credit for Zero, the main
character, Zero. It's played by Tony Revelleri,
not Matthio Almarach.
So, sorry, I gave the wrong actor the wrong name.
Anyway, all of this will, yeah.
I want to say one more thing. What a time we live in
that we're getting to see Wes Anderson films as they come
out and we're getting to understand and appreciate what that
means. Like, think about this. Like, just take the
Darjeeling Limited. It puts
together Owen Wilson and Adrian Brody
and Jason Schwartzman and they
are amazing. It is
a power trio, right?
The characters, their performances.
Any other director,
any other studio would
have put those guys in five
sequels. Like, there's just no
doubt. But Wes Anderson gets to
do what Wes Anderson wants to do.
And so we get to have that.
And they still puts them in there.
They're still all. They're still all,
They're still all three in the next five movies.
They're just not the same characters, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's something else, man.
His entire, even if he just go into IBB and just look at the listing of his movies,
you see this art style in the tiny little poster art.
It's like this crazy color scheme.
I want to capture it and go paint something based on it.
Yeah, Royal Tenenbaum is a really good palette.
Like that if you ever want to, if you ever want to like look at a movie and then use
those colors use that one.
Oh, look at the people they're going to have in this new one that Brian brought up.
The wonderful story of Henry Sugar.
They already have confirmed Ray Fines, Rupert Friend, Benedict Cumberbatch, Ben Kingsley,
Richard A.O, what's the IT crowd guy, Richard Aola, Aola, A.OAid.
Have you said?
Iowade.
Ayahuade, thank you.
Dev Patel.
And that's just the ones that are like extra, including the billions of people he already carries
with him everywhere.
Yeah, his pocket.
Yeah.
just imagine if ben kingsley and benedict cumberbatch and ralph finds and i'm just going to say ralph finds
imagine if those three people all get to just sit and talk to each other that is that's an insane
concept mm-hmm it is you're just making me want to go watch all this shit again just talking
yeah nothing wrong with that uh all right well there it is and take that parasite trolls i'm not
watch i didn't watch parasite this last week i watched these things instead um that's gonna do it
Hey, Brian puts these up on QuickTMS.L.I already up there.
They're ready for people right there.
Yep.
And as always, if you have suggestions on things we should watch or could watch, let us know here on the show.
We would love to hear about those.
Randy, thanks for hanging out with us.
I guess film sack was supposed to be last week about Green Lantern.
Guess what it's going to be next week?
About Green Lantern.
Yeah, Tina totally effed everything up.
Yeah.
Blame her.
I am sitting out.
I've completely forgotten what I wrote for an intro, for a Twitter.
You need both.
I actually feel like I've got to watch, at least watch the movie clips recap stuff just to refresh.
Yeah, that may not hurt actually to do that.
I should do that too.
I kind of, you guys, look, I know I always say this line about it.
You might be surprised what I thought.
There are parts of this that I came away going, well, that was not what everyone, everyone told me this was nothing but a shit sandwich.
And there was stuff in there.
There was stuff.
There is stuff in there.
Yeah.
I feel lied to a little bit, not by you guys.
Save it for the show.
I am biting my tongue because I can't wait to talk about how, you know, like I perceive all of DC in having avoided DC as much as possible my entire life.
It's like, okay, we're going to, we're going to talk.
We have a talk.
We have stuff to do.
So we'll see you then.
Thank you for hanging with us.
Thank you.
Oh, Nicole's not here.
Never mind.
Thank you, Nicole.
Thanks, Nicole for being in an inherent spirit.
Yeah.
It's vicariously you're here somehow.
That's right. All right. That is going to do it for today's show. We are out of here. However, a quick final note here from somebody talking about getting shots. Remember the whole tetanus thing? Yeah, yeah. How a difference between that and how you get it, where you get it and all that. Seth from Philly Road in says, you don't get rabies from rusty nails. You get tetanus. You need a tetan shot every 10 years. Rabies are from dogs or cats or wild animals that foam at the mouth. Last time I checked rusty nails don't form and don't have mouths. Don't foam.
Oh, I'm foam. And don't have mouths. Love the show, says Seth.
Yeah. We corrected it. I think we, we corrected it during the show. Like, probably right after he sent that text, we said, I mean, not rabies, tetanus.
Yeah, I think we cleared it up. And then he never, he never sent a reply. So I just read, listen, dude, if you wanted to correct yourself, you should have sent us a second text. That's how this works. But we love you too, Seth. And thank you for that message.
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and I think that's everything I got
Brian you got anything else
to mention
I got nothing else
oh actually there was the thing
I was going to bring up
uh just really you know what let's say you know what the link i gave you let's put it in the top of the show for
tomorrow oh okay did you put it in where'd you stick it it's right above the picture of corn that
you put in our oh our discussion that corn really messed me up oh this all right yeah we'll
make this uh priority tomorrow yeah because i think we'll have some audio clips that we can pull
from that thing absolutely oh my gosh look at this so yeah so busy posting corn i forgot about
the porn right right in front of it anyway
Corn porn. Corn porn. That'll be tomorrow. Lots of other stuff tomorrow, too. So check us out. Then that'll do it for us. We need music, though. You have a little something to take us out?
I've got something. Yeah, all that talk about Disneyland, we need to bring up a friend of ours that works there that is currently going through some stuff. Gary Fisher, he says, hi, Scotch and Bourbon. Well, it's been 10 years since I made my first birthday song request when I'm 64 for my 64th birthday. How time for you. How time.
lies. Since I'm currently getting radiation treatment for prostate cancer, I thought a cover of a
cure song might be appropriate. My prognosis is very good, and so far side effects have been
manageable. I have four more weeks of treatment as of June 22nd when I'm writing this. Love the show,
though, Gary, the senior geek. Oh, we love you, Gary. Gosh, dang it. I hate that he's going through
that. I freaking hate it. Yeah, we think about you so often, Gary, and we hope you're continuing to have
minimal and manageable side effects from from all that garbage i'm going to wear a colorful floral
shirt on top of another shirt tomorrow because that's how gary isn't if i picture gary in my head
closed my eyes that's how i see him i'm doing that tomorrow and in solidarity with with garran
i'm going to break tradition and i'm going to wear a hawaiian shirt tomorrow also so tomorrow
uh i'm going to i'm going to just go crazy and wear a holline shirt and then uh both of our
shirts will be an honor that's right and i'm going to
use some electronics tomorrow and a land a local land so i'll have landtronics in my life i'm
going to have oh look at that yeah star wars i'm going to get some star war shit you know i'll have
something star wars somewhere around me in honor of his uh his work at batu and uh is that really so
it was his birthday though right that was the deal here yeah so give him let's party
all right just make sure i got that that yes i believe it is today this is the date that he has on his
on his thing and i believe that today is gary's birthday so
Happy birthday, Gary.
We love you, and we hope that you continue to beat the crap out of cancer.
All right, The Cure.
Boys Don't Cry.
This is the song he wanted, and I love it.
And we've never played, I've never played this version before.
I'm surprised because it is so damn good.
Oh, it came out a couple years ago, which is part of the reason, by a German group called the Baseballs.
The Baseballs are known for their amazing, just could have been right out of the 50s Americana Rockabilly Center.
Here are the baseballs from their album Hot Shots at a cover of The Cures.
Boys Don't Cry.
But I would say I'm sorry if I thought that it would change your mind.
But I know that this time I've said too much being too unkind.
Oh, I try to love about it.
Carparee all up with lights
I tried to love about it
Hiding the tears in my eyes
Cause boy don't cry
Oh, don't cry
I will break down at your feet
And back forgiveness plead with you
But I know that it's too late
And now there's nothing I can do
So I try to love about it
Covering it on up with lies
Oh, I tried to love about it
Hide in my eyes
Because boys don't cry
Boys don't cry
They don't cry
Boys don't cry
Boys don't cry
Boys don't cry
They don't cry
I will tell you
That I loved you
If I thought that you would stay
But I know that it's no use
And you've already gone away
Misjudged your limits
Pushed you too far
Took you for granted
Thought that you needed me more
You know I would do more
To get you back by my side
But I just keep on laughing
Hiding the tears and
eyes because boys don't cry
Boys don't cry
They don't cry
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I hear that.
I also hear that.
