The Morning Stream - TMS 2492: Aquapocolypse

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

The Definition of Insanity is crossing Kim. Whenever I smell my mom... Full Time Run Around and Do Shit People. 82% is 100%. Scott's Mom Is Ripe. Clement X" the rapping Pope." Water Appreciation. Mom Loves A Mall. Of Course, Tom Runs. There Will Be Burger Time. Old Idioms of Insanity. Noisy Kinks. Kiss in a Nutshell. The Most Boring Voice in Rock and Roll. Dinosaur Therapy with Amy, Human Therapy with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Clement X. The rapping pope. Water appreciation. Mom loves them all. Of course, Tom runs. There will be burger time. Old idioms of insanity. Noisy kinks.

Kiss in a nutshell. The most boring voice in rock and roll. Dinosaur therapy with Amy. Human therapy with Wendy. And more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Pauseing that. Okay. It is, we are on in three, two, one.

Regularly scheduled programming will not be seen at this time so that we may bring you an ABC after school special. Stone. I'll have to go to the toilet. The morning stream. It is the end of the beginning. Good morning and welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, July 13th, 2023. It's my mom's birthday. My mom terms 85 years old today, man. Wow.

Happy birthday, Mom and Johnson. Yeah. Kim took her to the, or Kim and Misha took her to lunch yesterday and puttered around the mall out there because my mom loves a mall. Why aren't you taking your mom to lunch, by the way? What's going on? Well, I work for a living. And Kim and Misha are full-time run around and do shit people. So they took care of it.

Yeah, but she's your mom. I mean, listen. I understand, you know, I'm sorry, I don't have time to meet with this listener who's coming to town and is doing stuff because, you know, you got work. We both work. We both work. Sure. We both work very hard. Yeah.

But come on. Oh, we'll go. We'll end up going somewhere. We just probably won't be on time. It won't be like on the day. And I guess yesterday wasn't on the day either. But anyway, she's, she's all good. She's happy.

85's a freaking hallmark of age. You know, that's a nice ripe. She's very ripe now, my mom. I don't think people, uh, ripe, you know, we can't use ripe in the apple sense because it also,

it's also in the stench sense. Like, oh man, you've been working out of the yard. You are ripe. Oh, boy. Yeah. My mom smells lovely.

She smells like a, whenever I smell my mom, I feel like I'm smelling that febrize stuff. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Her perfume reminds me of Fabrese, and I would never probably tell her that. But I'm happy to say it on the air. It's not a problem.

I'm just already loving the phrase, whatever I smell my mom. You know, you hug her and you just catch a whiff or whatever, you know, whatever somebody sprayed on her at the Macy's. And then she took it home. Yes, of course. You know, she's loving it. It just feels like, it feels like the, whenever I bite into a York peppermint patty, I get the sensation of Fabrease. Yep, Fabrease. Something to make your couch smell.

all better. That's what I get off of my mom. Anyway, happy birthday to her and anyone else celebrating your birthday today. Yeah. She just lump you all into the same category. That's right. Matthew Wayne Selsnick.

Yeah. Who else? Who else? I don't know. That's a different day. Ellie Collins, Stuart Morrison. I don't know how well.

Daniel Pickett. Yeah. Matthew Fuller. Okay. All right. Sharon Stelzig Snyder. Sure. That sounds like a real person to me.

Yeah. Why not? How about this? one uh let's see in 16 uh sorry 1590 clement x was born uh he's an italian pope so he's 10 it's not clement x is clement the 10th so clement x is his rap stage name i guess uh current king fernand the third born this day in 1608 that's pretty cool george michael oh that's cool was born on this date 50 cent yeah he's in the club uh body full of bud he got with something something in the club whoa julius caesar today born in

rome all let's see was yesterday oh i'm sorry i guess it wasn't nope it wasn't he was born on this day george michael um the opposite died his family and lord no he died on christmas oh that's family and lawyers stepped up their battle of force faddy falas to leave the singer's uh former home after he broke a number of windows oh my lord yeah that's 2019 was after george michael passed way. And 50 cent also, not really his birthday today. Today is the anniversary of when he filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. Oh, okay. Well, this is all making much more sense now. So there's that. Yeah. Birthdays? Let's see if there are birthdays, because I'd like to give some sort of some sort of birthday, music birthday thing. Let's see here. Cameron Crow, he made movies about

music and also worked in music-related things. That's one. Roger McGuin, lead vocal. list of the birds, eight miles high. Yeah. So you want to be a rock and roll star, that guy? Yeah. Let's see here. How about Bobby Rock, or Brock, they called him? Not to be confused with Kid Rock. No, not, no. His first name

is Bob, by the way. Oh, is it Bob? Yeah. Oh, they have it written here is Bobby. Richie, I think. Let's see here. How about this one? Spud Web, a little short basketball NBA star, Spud Web. Oh, yeah, Spud Web. Yep. Yeah, five foot seven.

So he's the height of most people. But in NBA terms, he was a tiny, tiny man compared to everybody. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he was great. I love that guy. Well, anyway. Ambassador Domo says, D.D. Cone, you light up my life. D.D. Cone, so you know, my life was Debbie Boone.

Yeah. Not D.D. Cone. She was a beauty school dropout in Greece, right? Is that the D.D. Cone I'm thinking of? No idea. Might be. Yeah. Your knowledge on that would exceed mine.

Yeah, July 13th, 1951. There you go. Oh, did she play, was she in that movie, the, okay, the movie, you light up my life, okay. Oh, you light up my life. Is that song used in that movie? Probably. Oh, it has to be. Yeah, it's 1877.

It might have even been, like, written for that movie. That's like doing The Spy Who Love Me without The Spy Who Love Me. Exactly. Cheech Maren, oh my gosh, Cheech Maren was born today. is not the spy who loved me. The song is nobody does it better. Oh, nobody does it better. It doesn't go, the spy who love me. Almost

any other James Bond song you could have named was the title of the movie. And that's like one of the very few where the title is not, the title is in the song, but not in the title of the song. For a long-ass time, that was my favorite Bond movie. I really liked that one. Yeah. Big fan of that one.

Still to the day, it's good. Cheech Marin, born today. So there's your final birthday shout-out. Peach was born. It's not here, man. Yeah, done a lot of pot since. Oh, man, I'm Dave. Dude, I love that.

Those guys, those albums, I thought they were so great in high school. I felt like I was, I felt like it was contraband, you know? Yeah, it totally was back then. My gosh, how times have changed, right? So how, uh, how, uh, how tame those things seem in today's comedy spectrum. Oh, yeah. They're like nothing. I'm not even sure it exists today.

They're making jokes about marijuana. Yeah. It seemed really edgy at the time. But I don't even think that if you started that group today, you start that comedy duo, I don't even think it works today. I think it's just like it's a thing of its time. No, it's got to be further than that. Because, I mean, you've got, you've already got that in, like Harold and Kumar or Jay in Silent Bob. You've already got the, you know, smoking pot aspect.

You need more. It has to be smoking pot and hanging out in front of a convenience store doing rap songs. Yeah, the entire plot point of all Cheech and Chong content was the central thing of a giant bong, a giant bong or a huge doobie. That was it. Yes, exactly. That's your show. Oh, hey. That's your thing.

Yeah. I didn't put this in our show notes, but I have a really quick movie review. Oh, shit. Lay it, lay it down. Give it to us. I was thinking you were preparing, like doing it have a music sting or something. went last night and saw Mission Impossible

Dead Reckoning Part 1 Hearing good things It's very good It's very very good A series just gets better Every time to make a new one You know It does

And you know Again without giving stuff away Holy cow Talk about Bringing back Bringing all the greatest hits With the exception of Jeremy Renner Unfortunately

But you know Give us some give us submission impossible greatest hits and we get them in this thing really well that makes my that makes my brain go places yeah the bloated corpse of uh the guy that turned on him in the third one oh oh oh oh yeah john void in the first one i forgot who's even in that yeah yeah i don't want to see his bloated oh it's excellent very very good and uh good nonstop action wall to wall great stunts wall it's a wall action like you get you basically have two points in the movie And it's a two-hour-plus movie, I think.

It was hard to tell with the previews and stuff. But it felt like there were two 10-minute points where you had a nice little minute to relax. And the rest was just non-stop action. And I'm telling you right now, you got Haley Atwell. Yeah. Like her. Hubba, Haba, and Palm Clementif. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Mantis. You got her in this thing? She's not wearing the black contacts, though, right? Like the cool. She's not wearing any of the mantis acutermal. That's a shame. Is it?

Yeah. You got your Rebecca Ferguson. She's having quite the year. She's doing stuff. Yeah. But she's been in Mission Impossible before. That's what I'm saying. This is her returning.

Yeah. It's like third time or fourth time or something. I can't remember how many. Shea Wiggum. Oh, I love to, she Wiggin. Wiggum, good Lord. Yes. Boy, you had a gone just for that.

I can't remember if Terry Ellis was in any of the previous, was he in the previous Mission Impossibles? I don't remember, maybe. Okay. I know, do they bring back, uh, oh shit, Mr. in trouble these days, um, Alec Baldwin, is he in there? No, he was in there for a hot second. Yeah, he was.

Yeah, he's not. Okay. He had a good, by the way, he has a really good interview on, um, fly on the wall, uh, as a, as an S&L non, well, not regular, but consistent performer, if that makes sense. He was just up the road all the time. They're like, hey, get in here. Pretty much, exactly. We need other Trump.

We need, you can you quickly host? I think he's hosted. It's really funny. Like, he is the, if you need a quick host, he's the guy you call. And let's see how many times he's hosted SNL. Got to be up there. This is so many rabbit holes right off of, um, uh did it uh does not say um sure somewhere there's a list of how many times

i think we did a didn't we do a half asses once or something that seven there we go 17 times as of 2017 okay he holds the record for most times he is he is most times okay yeah that's interesting we did have we did have a not a half asses but a um it was when we were doing babble royale Oh, gotcha. Okay. Did he, so was this interview, this is a recent interview? Yeah, it's within the last month. Do you talk about the shooting thing? Very briefly.

Probably can't say a lot legally, I'm guessing. That's pretty much it. Yeah. I can't imagine this. Because he was holding the prop gun that malfunctioned, right? He imagined that being the one that held the gun that accidentally killed the lady. I know. it's it's horrifying just thinking about the

that's just heinous the thought of doing that yeah it would just be awful man you just you'd have that forever you'd be always like well yeah I'm the one that killed him you know yeah not unintentionally as it was it's still like geez louise it's the most unintentional you know there's just so much

you know you're basically put in this situation where now you've committed murder because of somebody else's negligence yeah and it's you're And, you know, they may, they may feel guilt, too, but not as much as the guilt you're going to feel knowing that you pulled the trigger. Oh, it's rough. Narnly. All right. Let's get into some stuff here.

I got in trouble yesterday. I'd like to share how. Okay. Tell me. So we're outside. And we're checking sprinklers because ever since the water apocalypse we had the week before, or last week, I guess. Aquapocalypse. Aquapocalypse.

That sounds like eight apocalypse. don't try and condense it any further trying to get that thing down there man i gotta get it out apocalypse oh yeah i'm gonna get it right down to opocalypse um anyway since then our sprinklers have not behaved exactly right and we think probably it's just one little uh what they call them zones you know you haven't broken up into zones and our we have one zone zone one it's called which is the one that's the strip of grass uh on the other side of the sidewalk from us so it's still our but it's just that little strip there. Separated by the walkway,

the parallel to the front of your house walkway, basically. And the water is just dribbling there. It's just not doing anything. Like there's no pressure. It's still, it's there. Now, all of the rest of everything's fine. It's no issues. The current running theory is they probably kinked something

when they were digging. Who knows? Nothing's leaking, though, because we're not getting any kind of water usage when it's off or even when it's dormant. um well but no but it's you still could have a break in the land that just when zone one is closed yeah that's what we're saying where it's just not it's not like a permanent thing but when it's when it's uh in other words if i turn off the sprinklers it's not just running the grass still not

flowing yeah yeah it just stops so anyway we're just trying to figure it out on our own before we spend more money on this and um isn't that big a deal because we're actually thinking about zero zero escaping that part anyway and that that'll take time and so it's not that big a deal but anyway we're working on in the kim's theory is if you cut around the spring there might be the sprinkler heads that's what she thinks so uh because they're old these are older sprinkler heads and so we got a couple of new ones and she's like all right let's just cut these we'll cut a little you know a circular chunk of grass pull it out dig down a bit make sure the valves clear all the stuff put the new one on and that didn't work. And so she says, well, let's try this one. She did another one. And that didn't

change it. And she's like, all right, maybe we should do that third one. And I said this. So here's where the trouble comes in. I said, I heard the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Or I said something like, isn't that old phrase that, you know? And I said it kind of flippantly and not really meaning. I wasn't trying to be like annoying. Yes, sure. But I glanced around it. Kim, after I said it, and I have never seen, like, more fire in her eyes in that moment. And I was like, oh, no, I'm not, you know, I'm just, what are you playing? We're good. Did she just hand you the shovel and say, awesome, you do it? Because that's pretty much what Tita would do.

Kind of, yeah. It was like, I'm not, I'm fine, you take care of this. I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. And I'm totally kidding. I go, I get that we're troubleshooting, but I am guessing that the third thing isn't going to solve her problem. well and you are you going further like basically if you change the first sprinkler head closest to where water comes out and that doesn't solve it for the other two then changing ones further down the line aren't going to increase water pressure later exactly which is why my hence my playful way of pointing that out or at least i thought it was playful um but it annoyed her i go oh what's a big deal and she goes you called me insane i'm not calling you insane i'm saying the act of doing you know and i'm saying the act of doing you know and i kind of went over it again and realized I was making no ground so I'm just saying quick little advice you got you know you're out there with your significant other you're trying to get shit done maybe don't bring up old idioms about insanity and the definition thereof all right yeah yeah maybe not a good idea don't be like me what you're what you're probably you need to do I hate to say it is you're going to need to turn on zone one maybe put if it's still if there's

still stuff coming out you might need to put buckets over the sprinkler heads but then you need to like get on all fours and actually put your head to the ground and see if you can hear a point from the box from the distributor to the first sprinkler

and listen for where there might be either a kink or water rushing. It's going to make noise but it's not going to be noise you're going to hear standing up you're probably going to have to get really close and put your ear to the ground and kind of listen.

My brother-in-law Devin supposedly has some kind of sonar device. Oh, really? Yeah, it'll let him do some kind of something. I don't know how it works. Someone in the chat may know, but apparently there's a way to do this with a thing. It's kind of like when you find fish

or you do depth checking in a lake or whatever. It's similar to that, and you can pick up sound and movement or whatever. So we'll see. I don't know. It's all stupid. I hate water crap. I hate this stuff.

I hate it. Oh, I do too. Every spring we find some sprinkler line that broke over the winter. And we always do the blowout. We always do the stuff, get the water out of there so it doesn't freeze and crack, you know, crack the pipes and stuff. But for whatever reason, we still have to, they're just too, I think somebody put them in too close to the surface. And so they're just affected by that sort of thing.

They get, they get broken. So I have to cut them up, splight, like cut a new chunk of pipe, and then splice it and put it back together. And guess what? Next spring, I'll have to do it all over again in a different spot. Yeah, because it never ends. And here's the thing. I don't know why we need grass in the first place Let's just zero-scape everything

Let's make it all look pretty I keep calling it zero-scaping Like it's zero didn't I say zero I didn't say zero? No you said you said zero both times Zero escaping I think it just comes out that way But yeah like I don't need

We don't need that Who needs that strip of grass We're just throwing water away It's stupid Oh for sure No we're we're doing the same thing basically We're talking to the next door neighbor Not crazy neighbor but the other side

about the patch of lawn we both share and figuring out what we can do there to basically eliminate needing any watering there whatsoever. Yeah, I don't, yeah. There's no reason. This is the future I want. This is just grass and clover

and a pain in the butt. Yeah, all three of those things with an emphasis on pain in the butt. Yeah. You know? You want to talk about this video and he sent me? This is a Kiss video?

Yes. So, right now, Hammond and I are listening to Kiss for soundography. Yeah. And they have a lot of albums. I was surprised by how many albums they have.

So it's taking quite a while. And I'm also realizing that for the first time in soundography history, I'm liking a band less after listening to their library than before we started. Oh, wow. That's a new. That's a twist. That is a twist. Like, I'm, I'm, there, there are so many songs about wanting to hook up with jail bait

after their concerts. Plus, their, their songwriting, there is nothing that's not in the first person. And it's basically just like, oh, we're rocking and we're going to rock in your town and we're going to bring the rock so you better show up and boy, you're hot. So come to our dressing rooms after the show. Yeah, that's kind of it. That's kind of kiss in a nutshell. It really is. And I'm finding Paul Stanley's voice to be the most boring voice in rock and roll.

So freaking boring. Yeah, he's a, his voice is, hmm. I feel like you're I feel like you're just You're finally You're saying what I feel like I've always kind of known About this band

Yeah Maybe I have as well You know Because you want to give him credit Right Because you know Beth is great And the album Destroyer is pretty good

And you know The song I was made For Loving You is our ride And And And Part of every day I want to rock

And roll Really it's party every day But I still I still like the line I want to rock and roll All night And part of every day you got to pace yourself you can't go all night and then all day you got to pace it and have just part of the day part of every day

destroy Detroit Rock City's good strutter I think is a good song but it's still it's you know it's uh it's an issue so I told my uncle George this and he says have you watched the video of kiss on the Tom Snyder show do you remember Tom Snyder like in his late night show he had kiss on I don't know the year on this but it becomes immediately apparent that Ace Freely and Peter Chris are blitzed out of their mind and Gene Simmons well Paul Stanley to some degree

but Gene Simmons to the nth degree gets more and more pissed off with them as they go through like the glares that he shoots it's not just the demon makeup because they're doing this whole interview in full on makeup but the uh there Gene Simmons is giving these glares to

freaking ace freely and mostly ace freely some to Peter Chris throughout the entire interview and this thing is so cringy but has some great audio content you know for for us to

mine from for this show if we ever want to oh look at these guys holy crap I'm showing some of the video now they showed some of that demon in New York thing whatever that was a movie what was that called uh the kiss versus the phantom of the park that's what it was something about new york in my head about that i don't know why yeah it's a film it's film sec worthy if we i've got a copy of it but i don't

know if the whole thing's available on youtube you can't stream it you don't even think you can buy the DVD anywhere i think you have to get uh think you have to get it a whole bootleggy uh way of getting it i think what you're seeing i guess from the listen is that this was a this was more of a, it was a marketing thing. It wasn't, it was never like we're all about the music. It was always about, no, we're about being outlandish and selling records. Golf courses, many golf courses. And, because they're, they even promote on this that, um, one of the things

they were working on when the, when this interview took place was a traveling kiss carnival. Mm. So coming to your town, a, a, you know, a hastily assembled set of rides. based on the characters of the star man, the demon, the cat, and the space guy, I think, yeah. Yep. Yeah, like, you know, as kids, we kind of bought into it. We're like, yeah, dude, he's got, like, blood, and he's up there with this giant tongue,

and this is all, this is so rebellious and cool. I think we got suckered. We got suckered hard. Yeah, I'm so, I'm so, we really did. Yeah, and watching, listening to their music, it's like, wow, this is really not good. There's a whole song they do called Great Expectations and lyrics of it are basically you're your hot chick and you're watching me from the audience and you see the way I'm fingering my guitar and you're imagining what I could do to you.

It basically are the lyrics or you're seeing me sing into this microphone and you're imagining what my mouth can do. Oh, geez. It is the cringiest dev song ever. Wow. Okay. And I'll be talking about that, of course, on, uh, soundography when we record.

Do you have to listen to that lick it up album? That's a bad album. Yeah, you had to listen everything. Yeah. It was a bad album. Lick it up's kind of catchy for a radio thing, but the rest of it is terrible, and it was like their first non-makeup thing. And we were all about it at the time, because I was like, oh, this is awesome. That's the concert I went to

when the electricity blew out, and they had to quit early. And people got rioted, man. It was so bad. Oh, my gosh. And again, you know, Maybe I shouldn't read lyrics to songs as I'm listening to them. But the lyrics to lick it up are horrible as well. It's terrible. Don't want to wait till you know me better.

Let's just do it. I don't care what your name is. Thanks for coming to the dressing room. Let's do it. Yeah. It's kind of a consistent thing with them. And I'm not even going to get into whatever, what is being licked up. Yeah.

Yeah, we don't want to know. Let's not even. let's not even go there. Yeah, we assume he's talking to his dog and it's food off the side of the bowl. Look it up. Yeah. This video, look it up if you want on YouTube, but I figure, you know, we can pull some great audio from there. I'll extract some audio out of there. You guys will probably recognize it when you hear it. Hey, you're on cameo now. How much? I am. Thanks to some weird clerical error. I priced myself under Justin Robert Young. And over the criminally underpriced Veronica Belmont.

Veronica Belmont, for somebody who's only charging $15 for cameos. So I just took whatever their recommendation was, which is $20, and said, you know what, $20. Want me to wish somebody, happy birthday, happy bar mitzvah, happy anniversary, whatever. You know, it's me and everybody from the office on cameo. They're all up there, man. Did it? So when I... Package deal is what they should offer. I'm pretty sure we signed up same day.

Did you get like an email or something or how'd they tell you? Yeah, I got an email yesterday saying, Welcome to Cameo. We've approved your application. Weird. That's great from like a year ago. I was going to say easily a year ago or something we talked about that, right? Easily, easily, if not more than that.

So you've probably got one in your junk folder or something like that, probably sooner than me, because... Wow. That's wild. Yes, Merrick, you can pay me to wish 50 cent a happy anniversary of his bankruptcy. Yeah, 20 bucks. I'll call him 50 cent. Are you now 25 cent?

10 cent? What do you now? Are you significantly less cents than you were before? Happy bank reversory. Yeah. Cameo is a weird service. Well, you have to let us know if anyone uses it. I'm very close.

Yeah, I'll let you know if anyone uses it. Camio.com slash Brian had it. There you go. Oh, no, Coverville, eh? Just your name. Coverville was taken by, I think, my already existing account, and it wouldn't let me use Coverville. Oh. Yeah.

So I might send an email and say, can you figure out what's going on here? Because, come on, I'm Coverville. Yeah, you're supposed to be unified across all platforms. Yeah, exactly. You can't be two different people. Come on now. Chris says we discussed this on September 21st. This is when we talked to Camio.

when we applied to cameo last year how do you know that date chris well that's almost yeah that's weird that he knows the date yeah uh that's that's not so we're all it's almost a year it is almost a year yeah yeah we're not that far from i'm more nervous about how chris knows that yeah that's that's the larger question at hand uh but also this pops and recline oh that explains oh that explains a lot pops and recline one of the things that i enjoy also is reading Oh, that significant musical intro indicates that Red Fraggle 3, aka Amy Robinson's here to talk about books and reading. Hello, Amy. Oh, good morning.

Good morning. I love the intro music you picked for me. It's just so joyful. It's lovely, right? It is. It is peppy. You can just see you skipping down the road with a basket full of books. Yep.

Right? You're the LeVar Burton. That would be difficult because books are heavy. Yeah. Yeah, well, it would be paperbacksed. And actually it would be a Kindle. Yeah. Just one Kindle.

Right. Just a Kindle and like tub of ice cream. Oh, that sounds all right. A potter, a piece of pottery with some ice cream and then a Kindle. There you go. There you go. Exactly. Well, we're excited to have you back.

I hope you're well. Thank you. You sent me a whole bunch of pictures. You want to talk about these first or after? I did. Yeah. So I'll talk about those in a second. I do want to tell.

I want to tell you a story. Scott. This might make you feel a little better because I can relate to your story about getting in trouble. And this was like, this was a long, long time ago. This was, you know, my, as a, as my current husband would put it, my trial husband. Uh, the demo. In, in both senses of the word. So we actually had gone to South Africa for our honeymoon and we had just flown in there. It's a very, very long flight. It's about 24 hours to fly from Atlanta to Cape Town. And we had just gotten there. And of course, they have a right-hand drive on their cars and they drive on the left side of the road. So I was like, that's all you. I don't think I can make my brain do that. And we had directions to the hotel. We're both very, very tired. And we get in one of these kind of town-centry places where there's lots of one-way streets and you can't get there. from here kind of situation going on and we end up I mean we can see the hotel but we cannot figure out how to get there with the car and my now ex-husband says there's got to be a better

way to do this and I innocently said yes you're right there must be a better way than not getting there and he was so mad I was like do you want to drive because you could drive. He was really mad. See, it's just like me. You meant it not you meant it like I meant it, which was you didn't, you weren't looking for, you know, you weren't looking for a conflict. You were just like, oh yeah, it's like that makes logical sense. So I'm going to say the logical thing. Turns out the other person was not in the place to hear that. Because the way we're doing things now, we are not at the hotel. So the way we could improve this is by getting to the hotel. Yeah, be at the hotel. Exactly. Exactly. Right. And I, I swear, I was to, it was totally innocent. And I thought I was going to

lighten the mood. But nope, nope, I made it worse. So there you go. It happens, happens to all of this. It does. Well, I feel some, I feel some consolidate, not consolidation. What do you call it when someone, uh, consolation? No, what's, uh, like you're consoled or, uh, some, uh, collaborate, no, not commiseration. Commiseration. Commiseration. There we go. There it is. We have co-misor to the woman with some book learning. I was going to say, that's what happens when you read books. That's right. That's right. You learn words. And you learn words. And you. You learned use cases for words like commiseration. Today's word, commiseration or constipation.

That's really ironic because today's books are picture books. Oh, funny. So, yeah, which leads me into the pictures that I sent to Scott for today. So I have a confession. You guys know that my last book recommendation was the Silo series. and actually it was specifically it was wool and then man I couldn't I had to keep going and so I've spent the last couple of weeks just consuming the crap out of that and yeah so I do so this week we'll have a bit of lighter fare and I want to recommend a little book from one of my favorite comic series and it's it's sort of a thing that Chuck and I have just last matched on to and we absolutely love and here okay let's see can I remember how to share my screen I bet you can I'll bet it comes back to you I yeah oh wait I got to get to where the call was I can do this

I can do it yeah okay I you know I'm a tech professional I can sure yeah okay no come on no no no go nope nope nope yeah you get the little share screen button up there you go see there you go screen with the arrow there we go Oh, I hear Brian twice and me twice. Oh, no. Oh, no. I did a bad thing. You see, like, that's, that was what I didn't want. If you mute the, um,

no, it's not yet yet. Yeah, if you mute the, what do you call it, the screen, the screen part, yeah,

or I can just mute it. Let's see. Well, then Brian would have to do, but. Oh, I could do it too. Oh,

but that mutes her. No, it doesn't. Okay. Yeah. So, all right. Well.

Okay. Hold on. Hold on. All right. So, Scott, go ahead and share some of those pictures I sent you. And then I'll share my screen for a later part. All right. We can totally do that. That works. We can totally do that. All right. So I'm pulling stuff up here. I will pull up the stream so I can see what y'all are talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So the today's books are, there are two of them. And they're by this little comic artist. and the comics are called Dinos and Comics. And it was, they're, they're just adorable. If you haven't seen them, it's really, really cute.

The, the artist has ADHD. It was written by this guy named James Stewart. But the books themselves are called dinosaur therapy and dinosaur philosophy. So what you're looking at right now is a little piece of pottery that I made for Chuck because we started discovering these little dinosaur comics and they just were so adorable and they were like, I would show them to him and I'd be like, it's us if we were

dinosaurs, you know? And so I made this little ceramic box and that is the picture you're seeing right now is like a full four panel comic of these two dinosaurs red and blue. And they're just in different positions kind of snuggled up on the couch together and one of them's got headphones and one of them's got some yarn and you know in another one they're reading a book and another one they're like all snuggled up together or whatever sure so i made him this little ceramic box and the lid has the dinosaurs

in bed together with their little paws claws whatever uh you know pulled up over the covers whatever dinosaurs have yeah the sides are uh are decorated in in different scenes from this little dino comics thing. So I thought, I was like, okay, this will be a cool way to kind of tie in the pottery and the books and also kind of get me out of jail for not reading a new book because I'm like, but, you know, again, I'll just renew my recommendation for the silo series because it freaking is awesome. Yeah, that's really good.

As Scott knows, because I've been just like blowing up his DMs going, oh my God! I can't believe this happened. I was really fun. I heard this character. I'm going to revolt. Even though this is my second read-through of shift, a lot, I'd forgotten a lot of it. And so me going through this again and then having you pipe in right around that same time

I'm in the same sort of place as you are was really a fun interaction because you're not kidding, dude. Shift goes places. Holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. It really does. And okay.

So now I think, hold on. Now I can do this. did you figure it out I think I did I just hope it doesn't do the thing with the sound again alright oh yeah I can see us

yep okay so this is what I wanted to show so this is the book this is one of the books is called dinosaur philosophy and you can see there's just really cute little three or four panel comics the art is very simple

you know nothing nothing fancy but they're all just like little dinosaurs and turtles and stuff and they're all just very relatable um you know and one says you know i'm sorry i don't have the answer to your problems and the turtle says that's okay i don't come to you for answers i come to you for a new perspective on the question you know it's just it's very relatable i think my favorite one is this one um from from this book it says you need to get out of your comfort zone and the reply is there is literally no zone in which I am comfortable yeah I can relate to that it looks like um you know even though the art is it you know might make someone think this is a book geared towards children this is this is definitely geared towards like uh you know adults

and younger adults and that sort of thing yeah yeah and there's a little introduction at the beginning of dinosaur therapy, which is the other book over here. That's the one I linked to in the Quick TMS, by the way, is Dinosaur therapy, because that's the first one I found. Both of these start is, either of these start is web comics, do you know? Or they do they do? Yes. Okay.

Yes, they are web comics. And so it would be, I think it's called dinoes and comics. Okay. So if you just like Google dynos and comics, you'll find them. But that's how I found out about them was just every once in a while. That was the only thing keeping me on Twitter for a little while was like, I'd, you know, flip through like, oh, look, a picture of a dog. Cool. And then, you know, keeps scrolling through everybody's angry crap. And then, oh, look, it's a dino's in comics, you know? Yeah. So, uh, anyway, yeah, the, the writer, you know, comic artist, uh, was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult. And so therefore is like, the comic is a sort of a sort of a way to, process some of his process some of his stuff

and it turns out a lot of it is really relatable I think one of my I'll see one of my favorite ones from from dinosaur therapy is this one that's on the right and he says I'm sad

and the other one says I'm sorry and I'm here for you and the first one says aren't you going to tell me to cheer up people always tell me to cheer up they says no I still like you when you're sad. Oh.

I'm like, oh. That's adorable. So anyway, they're just a little good bit of positivity. And I think everybody, honestly, everybody should have a book or two like this. That's just, you know, fun to pick up and look through just to get a little, just to get a little jolt of fun and positivity. The Calvin and Hobbs books anthologies are great for that. You know, just, just have something around that's, you know, once you're done reading about the end of mankind, you can, you can kind of palette cleanse with some, you know, cute, uplifting comics about dinosaurs. I think that's a great idea.

Having, you know, I'm getting close to the end of the second read of shift. I'm probably going to need something like this when I'm done. It's a good time to do this, yeah. Yeah, you do need it because I know what happens at the end of shift. Yeah, I got to have a very apocalyptic. elliptic mind at the moment. Need something to refresh that. Well, that's awesome.

Go check both of these out. And if you don't remember anything we talked about, Brian's got them up on quicktms.l.I. As usual, Amy, it's always good having you on. Thanks. Is there anything you got going on? We should tell people.

Yes. I will be doing a live stream, a pottery live stream today between TMS slash Adventure Club and Coverville, if assuming there is one. There is. Okay.

There we go. So see, I gave Brian a free plug also. Thank you for that. You guys want to see, you guys want to see some clay get thrown? You got to tune into this stuff, man. I'm telling you. Yeah. Today is going to be fun because I am out of practice.

So there's going to be a lot of like sponges flying and, you know, just making a mess. Because I need to, I need to practice throwing some clay. I've been, I've been doing a lot of decorating, a lot of planning. You ever do that where you get all up in your head? about planning a project and then not actually doing it and you're like, ah, crap. Analysis paralysis is what they call that business. Yeah, got a bad case of that these days, actually.

Well, that's great. As always, good to have you here. Have a fantastic week. And we'll see you next time. You too. Bye. Bye. Okay.

Close. Fun stuff. Some really cool, really cool pottery, too, with that. I agree. Let's do this now real quick. One of these. Time for some very quick news brought to you by. So quick.

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Not yet. It's on my list. Hammond and are going to watch it for patrons, soundography patrons, because we do a movie review, music movie review thing. Hearing very good things about it.

I'm too. I'm excited for that, and I'm excited for this other American gladiars. After watching the ESPN 30 by 30 American Gladiators, Doc, I'm excited for this other one, too. Yeah, I watched the Netflix one and still need to see the other one. So I kind of have the opposite thing, and I kind of want to go see the ESPN one. But it was really interesting. That was a fascinating. I'm sure there's a lot of shared stuff.

Yeah, you get Nitro in there. You get Laser. Oh, good. Because there were quite a few people who didn't do the 30-for-thirty-for-thirty-one because that asshole producer was involved. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. The jerk that kind of ran things and didn't care about safety or...

Yeah, I think this kind of had everyone. I can't think of anyone that didn't show up in this. Oh, really? So even the whole producer money grubber dude. Well, is he the one that's the Elvis impersonator? impersonator yeah no they don't have him on okay all right which is why which is probably why all these other people are involved because that's why a few of them wouldn't do the 30 for 30 they talk about it a lot that guy but they don't have them on it's good though you'll like it um what a weird era uh let's get to

this quick story here we're going to just read one of these um a janitor turns off a cold freezer to stop beeping noise and destroys research worth $1 million. You hear about this happening all the time, like a nurse will turn off a noisy machine, and it turns out it was important for somebody's life support or whatever. Similar to that, except it's going to just cost a whole lot of money. He's an irritated janitor allegedly switched off a super cold mega fridge.

Super cold mega fridge! To stop her from beeping but accidentally destroyed decades of scientific study and research. It's pretty gnarly. the let's see Rensilar Polytechnic Institute or RPI in Troy, New York is just in New York State

claimed the storage freezer contains cell cultures, samples and other experiments at minus 112 Fahrenheit this is an important place for them to keep cool RPI's lawyer Michael Ginsberg alleged people's behavior

and negligence caused this unfortunately they wiped out 25 years of research the damage to materials was allegedly part of a research into photosynthesis to further the development of solar panels so they're all mad and the janitor was just like it's cold this beeping's driving me nuts i'm going to figure out a way to turn it off yeah i feel like they didn't train their guy pretty much be like oh i work for a science lab

these are all science things i probably shouldn't touch them yeah you'd think you would think i would think that's what i would think but i think this guy did not go to his training meetings or some shit. This is basically the whole story behind the Mel Gibson film Forever Young, isn't it? He was in a cryogenic chamber and some janitor unplugged it because I thought it made a lot of noise

and Mel Gibson woke up and called everybody sugar tits or something. I don't know. I might be getting the movie wrong. I think that last part. Maybe I need to see it again. Yeah, it's been a bit. We'll have to film second. But that reminds me that Kavisel movie is number one in the box office right now. the weird QAnon conspiracy theory.

Really? Oh, wow. But here's why, though. I found out when I first heard that, I went, wait a minute, really? It's number one. How can that be? It was revealed today that they are buying up their own tickets and selling them. Oh, no way, really? Yeah, they're giving them away.

So they're like, hey, we got a theater full of 500 seats. You guys want in for free? Come on. They're doing a bunch of that. So this is, okay, so the movie is pro QAnonon. Like, it's a supporting QAnon thing. not really pro-Qanon as it is it is based on a conspiracy theory born out of Q&on okay so it's all it's all bullshit like apparently on set Kivisel walks around on set and hands out prayer cards to his to the crew

now that's fine whatever I don't you know I don't care but guess but there's an image of Jesus on these cards guess what the image is though it's him as Jesus from Passion of the Christ that's Oh, that's great. That's freaking weird, man. That's weird. That's really weird. I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

I was listening to some interview with a guy who's a sound engineer on the film and he said that place was a nightmare. So it's just really weird and paranoid and everything was just weird. But anyway, the reason it's number one. And by number one, I think it made $4 million because it's a slow weekend or something. But it was all them buying their own tickets and then. giving them to people anyway that's it for today's news

we're going to take a break when we come back my sister will be here we have a thing we held since last week since we didn't have a show last Thursday and we're going to share

that with everybody today so stick around for that that's coming up shortly after this song that you'll now describe to us so that we know what we're listening to I'll do my best I'm not making any promises

no what's really great about this is that this album just came out it's Alice Phoebe Liu's album Shelter I was listening to it to pick a song and ended up loving the whole album. So that's kind of what I've been listening to in my car when I'm driving. It's like, oh, this is the soundtrack of my car right now. She's fantastic, and she's got one of these great voices that you just can't get enough of.

It's a brand new album called Shelter. What can I tell you? NPR is All Songs Considered New Music Friday it appeared on. uh the album came out july 7th so last week um what else did you know i'm just looking through this she's touring she's going to be doing new york paris paris london prague all over the place all right let's get to the song alice feeby lu from her brand new album shelter here is the song lose my head i don't want to lose my head just yet i haven't even started coming oh oh oh I'm not ready to set my bed

I don't want to be any more involved than I am Ah, ah, ah, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, do you want to, do you want to stay? Do you want to, do you want to stay? Do you want to? Do you want to, do you want to play? Do you want to? Do you want to, do you want to go away? Come over here Don't lose this choice

All life's just sitting in But life is always come over here dawns, there's charms, all life's just sitting there, love is in nowhere come come over here

it's worth it, it's worth it it's already there it feels so perfect come on Would you just ride with me? You've heard that you've earned it. Come on, would you just shake with me? We both deserve it.

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Welcome back, everybody. Who was that song by and? That was, uh, Alice Phoebe Lou, three first names, and her brand new album, Shelter. That's the song, Lose My Head. Nice. And it's fantastic stuff. Nice.

I meant to ask you before we get Wendy in here, did you get a burger yesterday? No, so the plan was I was going to absolutely get a burger. But when I got done, I found out that Kim made black-eyed peas and some other stuff. And it was really good and filling, and it curbed my need for the burger. That does not mean, however, that I will not get one today. Yeah, I did. I got one when I went to the movie because I figured, well, I know I'm going to eat like crap when I go to Almo Draft House.

Right. So I'll have a sensible lunch and then have a, you know, garbage dinner. But, yeah, the Hellfire Burger is what I had. And it's, is there a description here? um hot pepper cheese reaper pepper mayo um grilled or caramelized onions oh there's all the stuff that we talked about in the so damn good was it good oh man that sounds great yeah i'm gonna go to 571 today get another one there you go all right get a bug you i am gonna get a bike you uh all right we're gonna call windy remind me uh either post show or before we hang up i got to show you this

thing, Vincent Manucci sent me. Oh, look at that. Is that an Anbernik case? Yeah. So, because she's ringing forever. I'll check this out. So it opens up. Uh-huh. It's 3D printed. It has a hinge on it, so that's cool. Yeah. Uh, the device just sits inside of there.

There's a nice little screen pad, uh, thing there. Oh, a little protector thing there. Yep. And then what I didn't notice about it was, you flip it around. Oh, it's a stand. A little stand you put in there. Oh, my God. That's awesome. So you can charge it in there, just leave it the side of the bed. whatever. Isn't that cool? Super cool. That is awesome.

It's such a nice thing. I got that email. Vincent, send me the STL for that business. I can probably find it. I think it's a, I think you got it on Etsy, so someone else is making these on Etsy. Oh, gotcha. But it might be a, I mean, it may be an available STL, I don't know. Might be.

Yeah, who knows. Entirely possible. All right. Let's call Wendy again. Let's see, ring. Here we go. She's showing is online, which is, oh, there she is right there. play this song or this thing i'll explain the situation to wendy don't worry oh good because i will too

hey it's a i can tell i found a new windy clip this week yeah what's that from that happens once in a while i don't know like i think it's a tv show or something and i heard your name i heard your name and i was like oh i'm going to capture that uh it's uh good to have you here it's my sister wendy everybody an actual therapist in the real world comes here on this fake world that we do every week and uh helps you with your problems all right that's the deal that's the change that's the exchange that we have here. Wendy, it's good to have you back. How's things over there?

Good. Yeah. All good. Do you consider yourself a fake world? That's interesting. No, just, you know, we're in this ethereal space known as the internet. And it's hard to describe sometimes what this place is. Yeah, what is this place?

We're sad that we're sad we didn't have you last week, but as you know, it was a bit of a nightmare. Yeah, there were lots of things going on. It was really bad. Wow. Yeah. It's horrible. like your nightmare happening it was the worst the only thing worse would have been in that you'd have to do like a middle of the night flight in the middle of all that that's the only

thing they would have made this worse and then the only thing to make that worse is if that plane didn't have working bathrooms and said sorry right yeah bathrooms sorry and we're stuck on the tarmac we're not we don't have clearance to take off looks like we're going to be here for another hour yeah and our bathrooms don't work yeah so sorry don't get up yeah i i just probably just say all right take me now kill me I'm done. This is it. I found my limit.

Indeed. But I'll tell you what. I'm glad you're better and the plumbing works, I assume. Yeah. Well, yes, everything except we can't figure out one of the sprinkler things. But the plumbing itself, all good. Pressure's normal. Everything's good.

All that stuff is like, and now when I turn it on, I do this now. And I'm not kidding. I turn on the water in a sink. It doesn't matter of shower. And I just for one second, I stop and I appreciate it. Yeah. I just stop and I go. That's it.

That's it. That's it. Yeah. That's one. I never want to take that for granted again because it was terrible. Anyway, it's good to have you here. We got a big old message that we're going to do that we've been holding all week. This is, and when I say a big old thing, this is about three minutes of a read. So everybody tuck in. Anything you want to say, Wendy, before this? We just go for it. No, go for it. All right, here we go. My wife, 27, has gone through a large change regarding her parents in the last few years.

She comes from a large family. She is the youngest of seven, two kids from her father's previous marriage, three from her mothers, and her and her older brother were born from her parents together. Growing up until about two years ago, she and her mom were best friends, daily phone calls, shopping trips, etc. Her dad was always incredibly kind and welcoming to everyone, which was great for me starting to date her with five older brothers. But then they got divorced a few years ago.

Since then, her mother has, who is 60, has seemed to regress to a teenage rebel. She doesn't see any of the 12 grandkids, only cares about partying. And to top it all off, is constantly cheating on her new fiancé. The most recent example of this impacting my wife was when someone came to her work and showed her a video of her mom stripping at a work party. And the only reason she didn't get fired from that is because she is sleeping with her boss. My wife was the most embarrassed she had been in her life. Her dad, on the other hand, has made the decision that the only thing he is going to care about for

the rest of his life is alcohol. He has told us that verbatim. He has been to rehab a handful of times when his sister forces him and does well when he is there. But as soon as he comes home starts drinking again, at least a fifth of vodka a day, usually more. One of her older brothers has had his own issues with addiction in the forms of heroin and meth, and is now living with her dad, buying him all the liquor he wants because the dad lets him use his card, the money in which is quickly running out, to do whatever he wants, even bought a new truck. They really just aren't the same people they were even a couple of years ago, and it has done some real emotional damage to my wife. She feels guilty that she doesn't see her dad anymore, even though his house

is a dangerous place to be, because there are people buying drugs coming in and out at all hours. She didn't visit for Father's Day, but I doubt he even knew that it came and went. She feels like she should do something, but has no idea what she should do, or even if she would have any control if she tried. Her mom just stresses her out. She is always saying my wife doesn't make an effort to see her anymore, and has even taken to fabricating rumors of her kids. Examples being one of them was cheating on their spouse, and that my wife and I were getting

divorced, based on absolutely nothing. Needless to say, this has been incredibly taxing on most of the family, and my wife, being the youngest and the only one that lived with them alone as a teenager, has been overwhelmed, stressed, guilted, and grieving that she has essentially lost these people that she was so close to while growing up. I guess I don't know what to ask other than, how can I support her and help her either mend what has happened or come to terms with accepting it for what it is. She is often completely drained from dealing with it on top of work and gets spike in of anxiety whenever she sees her mom calling her again i apologize for the wall of text there's a lot more

i left out for brevity but hopefully these details are enough for an overview of the situation love the show though concerned husband okay that's a lot dude that has a lot oh my god holy crap like the mom part alone was like whoa and then you hear about this dad bit and it just yeah just all of a said like it you know like they got taken over by aliens or something well that's going to be my question before we get into it windy is this is it even my gut says there was probably problems that they were either the kids were either shielded from or was sort of pushed down until they were you know empty nesters and then it all went off again because it doesn't seem like that stuff should be that spontaneous right that kind of behavior is usually one that's built into you for a while

Yeah, either that or triggered by a mental health breakdown or something, some sort of mental health shift that's happened in their life. So anyway, where do you want to have both of them at the same time? Right, right. Usually would indicate, like, when I hear stories like this, it's maybe one parent has kind of gone off the rails and the other one is feeling the responsibility or holding the fort down or, you know, that type of thing. The fact that it's both of them, yeah.

Could the behaviors of one of them have triggered? the other one like basically the you know hearing about the his ex-wife's behavior her dad is now like forget it I'm you know has having some sort of mental health crisis based on that or triggered by her behavior that's led him to the bottle well and here's the thing that I don't know that maybe this person who is just you know the outs the outlaw doesn't know either and that is what was the demise of the relationship about so yeah you know second marriages are very difficult. Blending families are very difficult. This is not for the faint-hearted at all. But how they handled all that difficulty could have been substance use all along. And

then it's just now he's saying out loud the quiet part of like, yeah, I'm never giving this up. I like it. And it sounds like some addiction runs in that family. But it's very possible like their management techniques and they weren't healthy things while they were together. So maybe the demise was a sudden relational injury. So, for example, one of them is cheats or one of them just becomes a different person or, you know, whatever that might be. And so it, because both responses are interesting. They're both basically trauma responses.

And so I don't know how traumatic the, the separation was or what went on between them was, but they're both responding very much like people do when something really hard happens, right? So, for example, let's take the mom from it. Let's just dig into her for one second. I have this running theory. I think it's true. I don't know if this is fair. It's not studied.

So it's just, you know, theory by Wendy, that somebody gets married at whatever age and then, you know, lives however long in a marriage or a partnered relationship. And when that relationship ends, there is even just a period of time, maybe it's not forever, but a period of time where it seems as if that person regresses back to the age they were when they got married. And it's usually got married the first time. Yeah. Right. So for mom, this would be probably young, right?

I didn't sell my wild oats. Exactly. Right. So there's some obvious things like that. But I also think there is like, it's like a developmental, uh, personal stop. so they developed this this far, then they partnered up, and then you're having to develop as a couple and a family, and there is really healthy ways to do that, that are mature, you know, but there is absolutely like a reset button on age that kind of happens in these, these moments.

Hard part about that is she is making all sorts of decisions that are like, not just a wild oats situation. This is like, wow, this time, a hundred, you know, like. Right, right. This is like wild, wild oats with a real bad case of, uh, uh, reality TV. No, no, I was going to say you can't have, what's the thing where you can't have gluten? Forget what that's called. She got a gluten allergy and she's tolerance. Yeah, but she's eating those oats anyway, you know, just letting her rip.

Yeah, and it's coming out sideways. Yeah. And, okay, so, so maybe there's all these things going on with the parents. We're going to, we're going to talk to how to help the daughter, of course, but, you know, you have both parents behaving like adolescents. You're 27. You've switched places with them. And 27 is very young to feel like you're switching places with your parents. Often it's as they're aging and you need to make medical decisions or housing decisions or they can't care for themselves or financial decisions because they're no longer in a position to be the adult. I think there's moments along the way. We all think, well, that's a dumb choice to dad or mom or something. And you can have those little mini moments. But like full on, this is not a. trustworthy adult in my life. My caregiver is no longer functioning. That usually happens later, but it is happening in now. Here we are. She and her husband are the adults and the responsible ones and these two supposed parents responsible ones are, have switched places. That is incredibly

difficult, incredibly difficult because it flips your entire how everything runs on its head, right? So just I'm trying to think of what is a good analogy of like you always thought a thing and then suddenly it's completely different and you missed it your whole life. It's kind of unnerving or like what? And it's just a little now imagine that times 100. That is having the people who are supposed to worry about you become now the object of so much of your worry and your concern. And the big part of that is you don't have power.

They always had power because they were the parents. You don't have this equal power as the adult in a relationship with an adolescent that it was originally. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. So you are intruable. Yeah. Like, I'm just trying to imagine this.

Like mom just had her 85th birthday today, right? Today's a day. And, um, happy birthday. Yeah. And she, I'm just trying to imagine. Obviously, she's just not 60. 60 still got a little, you know, you got a little wind in your sales. but can you just imagine this like finding out your mom sleeping with somebody's boss and also

cheating on the fiance and like all this stuff and stripping at work and uh my god i guess i can i guess i can imagine little things like he mentioned that she made up you know sometimes they tell themselves stories and make up stories about what their kids are doing when that's really not correct at all yeah that happens that definitely happens oh god yeah yeah a lot um yeah i don't know This is just crazy. Let me say this. And this is not fair, but also maybe a little. Is there's a lot of just different things going on for people that you would never know, right?

And so sometimes when a door gets opened or you get shoved through a door you never planned on, I assume these people did not think their lives would end like this, divorce and estranged and all that, right? That there was maybe behaviors or interactions or different things going. going on that gets you to this moment, right? That these kinds of things come out, and it comes out all sorts of ways. And you add enough of the right substances to this sort of thing, and you get a brother to move in who's doing heroin and meth like it's hard to make it's like it's hard. Yeah.

You know, and so it's tough. Yeah. And with the size of her family, so she's got six siblings, is that right, is a seven children? Yeah. I mean, it sounds like they all need to kind of come together and figure out, all right, are we, you know, do we want to call adult protective services? Do we want to get somebody involved to say, is there a cognitive issue? Is there a, is there, you know, at least keeping them from harming themselves kind of. Because what it sounds like to me is they're fully aware of what they're doing.

They're just super into wanting to do it. They just don't care. Yeah, they just don't seem to care. I would also double check if there's any. head injuries. Really? That's interesting. Like if there's a car accident,

we all just thought was not a big deal. That happens, huh? People find that. And they regress from that? Yeah. They regress or there's damage to the frontal lobe

that can really cause behavior changes and a lot of like executive function changes. So like impulsive and very teenage-like behavior again. So maybe that's something that's there. They're like, I wish that explained it,

you know? Yeah. I think that's what's hard is probably not that. It'd be great if that were as easy as that. Brian, you brought up a really good point. There are siblings here. If this were an only child, you know, our advice would be probably a little bit different. But this is somebody who's got six siblings.

She's the youngest, probably never played the role of family leader before. And so it doesn't quite know that you can call a family council and talk about it or something. I don't know. But I would do a couple things for her. So let's break this down into some categories. One is getting support, and so we can talk about siblings and maybe what her husband could do for. And then the second being like her own psychological, emotional well-being for her individual experience, what she can do for herself. So let's start with the family.

So let's, you guys know the story. I want you to tell me what you think the family, what that would look like. Now, let's just imagine it's complicated. It's blended, right? We've got someone in there doesn't like someone else probably very much, right? Someone feels like someone else is bossy. Oh, God. Yeah, or they feel like, no, mom's fine.

She's just doing what she wants to do finally. She deserves this, you know, kind of thing. Like, there's got to be one sibling that's going to be, yeah. So it's a whole, you need a united front is my first impression of this. And I think that fits with what you're just saying. I think if you don't have a united front with all the other siblings as to, whether or not it's a confrontation, whether or not it's an intervention, whether or not it's any of those things, you all kind of need to be on the same page.

If everyone is just as diversely convoluted about the whole thing, that doesn't seem like you're going to get much traction. Then we need to focus on point number two, right? But start with, I mean, it should be simultaneous, by the way, but start with this gathering. Let's say you guys have a meeting. You get on a Zoom call and we're just going to talk about what are you guys worried about?

anyone have any thoughts what how do we handle this kind of trying to create the united front and that united front might be we just stay out of it stay out of it yeah and then that's where point number two and watch them oh and just watch them self-destruct i couldn't do it yeah you have to say something at least to let them know where your head's at right so that they know and this is where connecting with for support with each other because only siblings know what it's like to have these parents. But of course, every person is an individual having a different experience

because they have different relationships with those parents. But the more you could maybe hear each other out, talk about what maybe needs to happen. This happens all the time when parents are aging, right? You're just applying this a lot earlier and to two people not doing well instead of sometimes it's one, right?

One person's aging or dad's, alcoholism is getting out of control and mom needs you guys to help or you know like the the dynamics are all going to be different so you you obviously work with the dynamics that you have however not doing this alone and i did notice he did not mention anything about the siblings talking or supporting each other so yeah i wonder how close they all are right right yeah yeah okay so that would be an important thing to to initiate now again and here's what's hard unless this husband is a trained mediator and very good with words and really skilled at this dynamic, I would not volunteer maybe to be the one running this, but it would maybe have your wife listen

to this episode, or you could talk through that idea it needs to come from her and her making those connections with the siblings to talk through that type of thing. The reality is, I don't know percentages why, but interventions usually don't go well. If you have, you know, a hammer, that's not right, a stick to follow up with any, like, hey, you're going to rehab, we're driving you there now. Okay, that's one thing. And that's also very difficult because you have adults here. Adults have to check them themselves into things. They have to give consent for treatment.

This is not a kid. You're putting. You can't place them in there. You cannot. You're dropping a bomb in all of this, and you have to be pretty sure that it's the right thing to do and that everyone's on the same page. So that's pretty risky. I would say even before any kind of meeting or let's figure all this out, is just who of your siblings are you talking to? Who is also concerned?

Who are you connecting with? Where are you getting support within the structure that already exists here? because there's a lot of people. And start there, like build from there. What can we do? You know, how can we help? What is everyone doing? Because sometimes when everyone agrees,

and that kind of treats the parents similarly, they'll have more effect that way than they would if they didn't. And that's what makes this a little bit tough because everyone's probably just like, don't call me, leave me alone. Or someone else is like, oh, I need to be the hero. I mean, because people play different roles in family. So figuring that out might be important.

Okay, real quick. Last night, I watched the episode. Have you guys been watching The Bear? No, not yet. Haven't started the new season yet. Oh, my goodness, do it. There is this, I can't even say any words now. I don't want to ruin it.

It's so good. But let me just say it's watching family dynamics that will melt your brain. Yeah. Wow. Like melt your brain. Anyway, I was going to do an analogy with that. But just that idea of like every family has its own place. labor. What's the beginning of Anna Karenina? It's like every happy family is the same,

but every unhappy family is unhappy in their own way. This family is unhappy in its own way. And so, you know, having that dynamic, if it's supportive, built, great. If it's not, and we really are just this husband and wife kind of on their own managing this, let's turn our attention to what she might do for herself. So what's tricky is. What's tricky is, is, you know, here you are partnered with someone who, it feels like this massive swing. You thought you were marrying into this particular family. It turns out it's a different, it's a Jerry Springer family. It's not what you expected, right?

You thought you were going on Oprah. You're on Jerry Springer. That's where you're going. Yeah. Yeah. Or Donicue. Or Donicue. But you're not.

Anyway, so everyone has concerns, right? And we've talked about this on this, the show before. But even just drawing this out for the, two of you, I'm talking to them directly now, the two of you. So you draw one circle and that is your circle of concerns. And I would write them in there. I would draw a donut because the inner circle of the donut is your influence. But your circle of concerns, like everything that fits in that donut, write it down. I'm afraid dad's going to waste all of his money. I'm so sad. I don't get to see him. I miss, you know, everything that goes into this. And then look at where your circle of

influences. So it sounds like maybe I'm forgetting she doesn't talk to her dad. Right. Doesn't see her dad very much. And then mom is just very stressful. I guess they do communicate. Yeah. She was talking about, for example, how she would get a text from her mom or a phone call

coming through and she would just completely like stress out because she knew her mom's just up to something weird and she didn't want to deal with it. Got it. Got it. Okay. So that heightened sense of like what she was going to. drop what is going to happen and essentially all trust is lost and that is a huge wound is to have the trust that you used to have in your parents taken so quickly right and so there's a lot of loss

and so you know you could draw these circles and husband do the same thing where he writes all of his concerns it's like my wife sanity is everyone okay you know all the things he's concerned about and what is his actual influence and then identify that influence So can she, let's start with her, can she change her parents' behavior? Does she have the power to do that? No, probably influence it, but change it, no. Right. And then maybe get specific.

How can you influence it? Because there is not a child on earth who does not think when their parents are distressed or they can sense something is wrong, that it's either their fault or that they should do something to make it better. Sure. That's how kids operate. And they don't stop when they're 27. They still think they can do it. And so this is about getting really clear on maybe what is actually possible.

So you might say just love them. Okay, then get specific. What does it mean to just love them? Maybe it's my influence right now is to make sure I'm okay first. And then I can have maybe some abilities I don't currently have, right? You know, it can be a variety of things. Maybe it's boundaries. Maybe it's.

I can send a letter. I can, you know, whatever it is, you feel like you have some influence over, like, getting clear on that helps people torture themselves a whole lot less, right? Because if you sat a kid down whose parents are getting divorced, you know, a 10-year-old and said, yeah, what's your power here? And they would tell you, well, if I cleaned my room and I didn't have so many sports games, then my parents would not fight at night. They wouldn't have, yeah, right, because that's what they were fighting about.

Like, who's the, yeah, right. They look at just the same. surface-level stuff. It's, you know, a lot of it's going to be a matter of just telling, hopefully, telling her mom how it's making her feel as daughter and to watch this sort of thing. And maybe that's an in-road. Right. That is a great question.

I'm calling it a question. Yeah. No, it is a question. I would up on the end to put a question mark at the end, even though I didn't phrase it in the form of a question, Alex. Well, thank you. But that idea of, like, I, that could be the absolute worst thing for this woman. Really?

Okay. Because what you're doing. For the mom or for the daughter? No, for the 27-year-old. Yeah, I need a name, Susan. We're going to call her Susan. We're daughter and mother. Daughter and mother.

Let's do that. Daughter and mother. So daughter, the worst thing for the daughter could be saying, hey, mom, this is how I feel. And then have mommy, mom going, yeah, by her behavior. I don't care. Mm-hmm. like I'm abandoning you in every way and now you've just added feelings to this which I may use against you like I don't know the mother is not making good decisions right so I don't think

there may not even be the leverage there may not even be any leverage there yeah 100% and would it be just fuel for this fire what maybe she's already tried this I don't know but that is something this is where my point number two is the most important this is not something that she can do without help grieving, processing, talking it through, getting it clear in her own head, crying, being angry. Like, she's got a lot to feel and work through. And what's risky is because we get so desperate to have our people be okay. We don't make sure we're okay first. And so you can imagine this just going on and on and on as long as these people decide to behave these ways, right? And so having her really get support and feel safe to express all the

feelings that come up with this and not try to go fix mom and dad, though that is very tempting. But what 10-year-old has ever stopped their parents' divorce in any real way? Well, it's because it's not their fault. They don't actually have the power of the influence. And I'm going to argue this 27-year-old does not have the power of the influence to stop what's happening because you don't. However, you're going to think you do, and that's what's dangerous. And this is what's hard is I say this, but I would be in the same exact position. I would also be more dangerous because I think I have skills, right? So like I completely get that. And yet, there is a couple steps or a couple things, and this is maybe where the husband can be helpful, is to really

encourage her to talk to someone. Maybe someone who specializes in high conflict family stuff, parent, adult children dynamics. There are lots of specialists that work with some of these dynamics and blended families and all those things because it is really hard stuff. And so then you get, think of it in terms of scope of practice, right? Everyone finds their scope of practice and works within that, and a lot of really good things can come out of that. What's hard is when we are stepping out of those lines and hoping it goes better. Now, again, I have a hammer because I see nails. So maybe you guys have an alternative option to having somebody sort of professionally help her

and maybe help the husband too, you know. I don't know. What do you guys think? Draw something or make music? Listen to some music. Listen, I'm bad with this because when I see nails, I use the heel of my shoe to put them in. Oh, boy. No, I mean, that feels like the right thing.

I mean, if there's a family therapy thing that can just start with the daughter. Yeah. And just, but with the option that later on, maybe the mom can come in as well. And maybe it's done under the pretense that, hey, you know, this therapist, you know, this therapist, you knows I'm going through a lot of stuff, but they'd like to talk to you as well. Or maybe you don't hide it. You don't sugarcoat it or hide the fact that you might be bringing her into some of this. But starting with, you know, just a place to help the daughter cope that maybe brings in the mom later on to solve that.

That's great. Do you feel like that? And that is very common. That's typically like not new for family therapy. Right. It's only because I haven't been on Amazon. Amazon to try and find a book. Yeah.

Yeah. There's been no books yet. I guarantee there's a book. There's definitely a book. There's always a book. There's always is a book. Right. But you're right.

Like that option in therapy is very common for families. Because if nothing else, it'll help the daughter. Even if they can't get the mom to come in and do anything, at least she'll have the daughter will have an outlet. Yeah. Yes. Totally. And, you know, having the husband be a part of understanding maybe there's a session where he gets to understand how to support her better, right, once the therapist has spent some time

with her and knows how that could look, because her support system is going to really matter. So I want, and this is hard because I think sometimes we're trained to not ask for help, right? We're trained. I'm trying to imagine being raised by parents that this could be the outcome. There has to be some in embryo version of this in their lives, right? Unless there was a head injury or some other radical. But, you know, maybe this was all like, I don't know, not as far from the surface as we think. And is there stuff from growing up specifically related to that that maybe the husband's not aware of?

And so there might just be stuff to work on that can be really helpful. That is, she's particularly triggered by this. right? So it's shocking if parents change on you like this, right? But it's also incredibly painful if there's been hints of abandonment before. There's been hints of this passive aggressive blaming or being embarrassed by your mom. Like then those wounds are just getting activated in massive ways, but they might have been there for a long time. And so that's why having a professional connect with her is important. Because a friend's going to say all the right things maybe um but it's not going to you know understand the childhood element to this or the

triggering factors or the things that are causing so much distress um so but you still need the friend so what i was getting at is maybe you've been trained not to ask for help do it yourself kind of thing right yeah and so you just keep fighting at the problem and she's doing it by being distressed and worrying and trying and you know all of those different things and that feels like love and trying because that's been her experience. And yet, the support of your community, someone you can say, hey, I need to just vent about how terrible my mom is acting and know that that's a safe place means you're going to interact with that next text a little differently because you are not carrying it all

and it's bubbling underneath the surface all the time. So even from therapy, I think would be incredibly valuable here all the way to can your support system be let in enough to get support. I'm often having to tell people that. Like, you've got to let them in. I always do this like assessment. Like, who do we have to call? Who do you call when your tire pops? And, you know, if it's not your partner, who else would it be? You know, like we start to look at it and work on building it because most of us are just like living our lives. And yet that and maybe not realizing we don't know how to ask someone to really be there for us. especially if we have a history of mom and dad

maybe not actually always being there for me can be particularly overwhelming. Yeah. It sounds like just regardless of some therapy, you know, it almost sounds like it's like the easy thing to say, get therapy, but it's also just like crucial, you know, like regardless of whether these things get resolved, her and her husband will have,

will end up, we'll gain something from that. maybe maybe the world is gained by it maybe all this stuff flips and it's all a path to perfection who knows but at the very least they those two will get the help they need yeah yeah and and when that happens two things usually occur one and at least the initial one is that people get annoyed by your new boundaries like you'll get boundaries by going to therapy you will learn wow I'm actually not okay with this stuff and I can learn how to stop this or say no or disengage, you know. And that disrupts a family dynamic.

Like when you get to this episode of the bear, if anyone had set a single flipping boundary ever, you, I mean, the level of vitriol that would have come at them. It's astounding, right? And so that is often, people are scared away from that, right? Like in my family, we don't do that. We do this or that, right? And we all learn what survival means in each family.

family. And so that's tricky. And then what usually follows is when that can be done and that bravery is employed, there starts to be a softening. I've seen this over and over and over that the people who are just like making fun of you for going to therapy suddenly are like, hey, do you think your therapist has any opening? So, you know, you start to, you start to see some benefits because you're being healthy and people will notice that eventually after they're stop being mad that you don't play the dysfunctional game anymore. Yeah. And I look at this and I just think, wow, there's just so much power dynamics from child to

child to parent and parent to child here that has to adjust. Yeah. And most of us aren't very good at this in normal situations where mom is not, you know, stripping at a company party. You know what I mean? Like, this is level 3,000, you know? The last couple of years I've found that a couple of issues I've had with some family dynamics. Depends on which one I'm talking about, even in my own head here.

But there's a couple of things where it's just a little, it's a little tangly, right? And I found that the time, when I finally went, whatever, go do your thing. and the power dynamic became they no longer held sway over my constant irritation slash concern for their behavior suddenly it changed for them too because I was like I'm all out of poops to give go go go be dumb and and was confident about me not giving a poop anymore like I actually meant it's like well I've done all I can I've spent all the energy I can so now it's whatever just go do whatever you're going to do it no longer affects me that turns some of that around for them um without getting any details but it just it created it created less instead of us

constantly punching up and down it became oh he doesn't want to fight anymore well shoot i don't actually either like there was a kind of a reconciliation that came out of that in a weird way and i still find that occasionally like you'll you know somebody who used to really bug me at family gatherings now i'm just like whatever i don't care And they don't do the things that bug me as much. They stop doing it. It is like some sciencey voodoo. Yeah.

It's a math problem. And part of that, if you think about it in just terms of energy, you bring energy to a fight. You bring no energy to a fight. There's nothing to fight against or react to, right? And that's what's hard with any of these circumstances, especially early on in the dynamic. And the fact that it's so reality TV-like,

like every other minute, some new revelation of insanity, it's really not hard not to be like, okay, what? And get really invested. And what you'll find with many people, they'll just be completely burnt out and often just have to walk away. And as a 27-year-old adult, I mean, there's no shortage of TikToks talking about how people had to cut off their parents, right? Oh, yeah.

I think there's a mild bit of contagion there. I think you need to take some necessary steps before you do that because some people just do it without doing their own work. Right. And you know, like, I always turn, take out the garbage. Your own garbage, right? Yeah. But like you're wounded. Like you're wounded.

Like you're off before you put on your kids. Exactly. So before you decide to cut everyone off because they're boomers, like maybe figure out your stuff first. And then there are people who, you know, that's pretty more of the rare, younger version of this or immature version of this. most people have spent years and years and years giving and being hurt and wounded over and over and over again before they finally can stop putting themselves in that position. So tons of compassion for that, absolutely. But I do think, you know, really working out your things will give you a perspective.

Either you can still do the family thing and but your boundaries are in place and you can remain healthy or you can figure out ways, you know, maybe those boundaries mean, less contact. And sometimes people make a turnaround. And it's nice to have a family therapist ready to go. Yeah, I agree. Well, let us know how it goes, concerned husband. I hope things improve on your end.

Yeah. Especially on your wife's end. Me too. Let us know, please. Yeah. We like follow up. Speaking of follow up, Wendy, what's going on? You got signups coming up soon?

Something's happening soon, right? No, not going to be until the fall. Okay. Summers. For some reason, I thought there was a summer. thing, but I don't know why I thought that. Yeah, we have done many during the year at different times, and

you know, Ellen got married and been moved across the country and busy, busy, so we're just sticking with the two right now. But it'll be October. Okay. I think. Yeah, watch for that. Realsteps.org, if you want to hang out and be ready. I guess we'll see you in two weeks, I guess. We'll see you in

barely. Yeah, we're going to be there soon and roasted it in our faces off in Las Vegas. That's right. Yep, nice and hot. Everything's nice and hot. It's not meant for people, I don't think. It really isn't. Florida and Vegas are not meant for people. No. They are Phoenix, Florida and parts of Florida anyway and Vegas. Definitely served by Atlanta. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. These are not meant for human beings, but the air conditioning is nice.

That's certain times of the air, right, for sure. Yeah. It does feel sometimes like we've populated a planet we were not meant to live on in those places. Like in Phoenix, it's like, yeah, it's a big metropolitan city. You can do all the things you do in any major city. But it's all the things you do in any major city but it's also so hot outside that you could literally melt into the ground and so it's like going to mars you just got to keep the oxygen on and you know keep people from going out under the surface of mars or their eyes will bug out if i learned anything from that movie anyway tell everybody hi it'll be fun to see you guys soon and uh probably got at least one more of these so should we do we could do the show live on the thursday that i'm there we could yeah you're

here uh well i guess we could do it so it'd be on the 27th or we can't yeah 27th was that where we'll go to we'll be in bear like that that night so yeah we don't wait we get home maybe what do we do do we leave that day i don't know what we do we leave that afternoon okay well we'll figure it out yeah no if you're physically here and and we're doing a show that day hell yeah let's do it yeah and we could do like a tic-tock dance together yeah finally after all these years oh gosh that's all i've ever wanted in my whole life is that yeah my birthday is monday yeah my birthday is monday birthday is monday i don't really know anymore what where we're at i don't know what number that is 69 so you must be 54 50 yeah 50 yeah i'll turn 54 that is correct yeah yeah we know that

because brian will very quickly right after that turn the same age yep two weeks after the same age that's pretty pretty darn close never that's the elder yeah that is way older i'm the old man You could have been in high school together and just picture each other in high school? No, we totally could have. And alphabetically, we would have been sitting pretty close to each other, probably. Oh, my gosh.

And we would have both liked a lot of the same stuff. I was, we would have had similar musical taste back then. All these things would have come together. If we, if it was a modern. Scott might have gotten me to watch Dukes of Hazard. He might have been the influence that I needed. Yeah, Dukes of Hazard or Knight Rider,

one of the cool shows that were on TV. I could have gotten Brian. Instead, he was watching Fantasy Island and, I don't know. Dynasty and Love Boat. Love Bo. I was never watched Dynasty. Never watched Dynasty, Dallas Falcon Crest.

Get those words out your damn mouth. He remembers every one of them, weirdly. Yeah, weird. How you know all those names. Yeah, I just want to stave off those rumors before they get started. Yeah, we don't want any of that. All right, well, my best to everybody, and we'll see you soon. Bye now.

All right. All right. So that's the family reunion trip coming up at the end of the month, right? It is. We're going to Bear Lake. and doing lake stuff. Yep. Renting a, what do you call them?

Not a jet ski. A pontoon? No, the jet skis are the ones that are underwater. They're the ones you stand up and do, right? Jet skis. Yeah. Well, the sea doos. I mean, you can sit down on jet skis as well.

Can you? Sea dos, jet skis, yeah. You have seats and some people stand up on them. Some people sit. Yeah, we're going to be, we'll rent one of those and probably one to hold enough or enough for two of us. I think someone else is renting a boat. We're going to do like, you know,

skiing and Kim's doing all the menu stuff and we're going to eat like crazy and it's going to be fun. That'll be fun. Yep. Nice. Yep. And whatever flu we all had is gone so we're not taking it up there. No one's showing up with Jardia or stomach virus or

some. They better not. Because we did have a family reunion in 2010 where that happened and it was all you know, Wendy's kids were all sick. Everybody was sick but I think my brother and I think my mom skipped out somehow, but it was bad. Is it just over

a weekend? Is it just like the 27th through that following Sunday or something? Yeah, I think we come home. No real show. I mean, obviously FilmSack will have an effect, but... Film set gets dinged, but we'll figure that out, and then I think that's it. Everything else I think is okay. It may be Monday we come home, so maybe TMS

is affected. I've got to check with the ladies. They all know what's going on. I have no idea. Of course. All right, we're going to get out of here. Before we do, quick A quick reminder today, Coverville, 1.1 p.m. Check that out. Core today, 5 p.m. It'll be a Bo and Scott two-man show tonight. John's out doing a thing. So just me and Boe tonight. A bunch to talk about, including the latest on this Microsoft acquisition thing. It's actually kind of gotten real dramatic this week. So some fun discussion around that. Let's see. There'll be a Core Daily today as well. Guess the connection happening Friday. Do you do that at 9 Friday? I do that at 9. Yeah, I do that an hour before a couch party. That's right.

I don't know what the prize will be today, but it'll be something cool. Yeah. I don't know what couch party will be at either, but we'll come up with something good. We'll have to talk. Yeah, you've got to figure that up because Hammond flies in during, technically flies in during, guess the connection. And if I were to go pick him up from the airport, then we'd have to shuffle all that stuff around. So you and I'll need to talk offline. I'll talk to Hammond and see if he's cool taking a train from the airport, then, uh,

um then then we're good it shouldn't affect everything it shouldn't affect anything else we'll figure it all right we'll let you guys know and then film sack this weekend we will be getting to green lantern after a uh a week of craziness and tina getting sick and us having our issues we were like yeah film sack ain't happening so we're doing that this sunday so watch for that as well all right that'll do it for us uh big thanks everybody for listening join us on our patreon patreon patreon dot com slash tms i would love to have you over there it means a lot that you help support your favorite morning show, and it's a great way to do it, and a cheap way to do it. Patreon.com slash TMS.

Brian, let's get out of here. We've got to play a song. Do you have one? I do. Let's do this one going out to Glitch. I love one who writes in, because it's always written out. Good, good, good, glitch. Whatever song the Brian picks is for you guys, because even though I am, even though I

haven't gotten my patron bonus membership card yet, I still think I'm ripping you off. Scott, you mentioned KMFDM a bit back, and though they did release an album last year, One of the main singers, Raymond Watts, just released this cover album. Love the show, though. Your number one Iowa idiot out wandering around fan. Nice. So, recommended anything from the brand new album by Raymond Watts, who goes by the name Pig, or released an album under the name Pig.

It's called Candy Rewrapped, and it's a bunch of covers. And, of course, the one I glommed onto immediately was the cover of the Spice Girls to become one. I'm just going to warn you, this is not for every. everybody. But if you're okay with KMFDM, if you're okay with Raymond Watts's weird, uh, loungy, growly vocals, then, um, you should enjoy this. Here is To Become One rewrapped by the band Pigged. We'll see you guys on Monday. Get it on Get it on Get it on

Get it on Yeah You can't Light in yourself Forever A dream of you and made together Say

You believe it Say you're Believe Free mind Down danger Be real Don't be a stranger we can achieve it

we can achieve it come a little bit crucible baby get it on get it on tonight is the night to become one I need some love like I've never needed love I've never needed love

I've got to have a little love Now I'm back for more To make love To you've been Let's your spirit free There's no other way to be I'm watching As you were playing

Empty words we both We're saying Let's work it out good Let's work it out Go Once again If we end up Love will bring us back

Together take it Or leave it Take it or see it You're as good as I remember Baby Get it on Get it all Tonight

Is the night To become one Oh I need some love Like I never needed love Before I've been a lot Oh

I had a little love And now I'm back for more Mm-hmm Get your spirit free Where's the only way to be Oh, be a little bit What is you believe? Get it on.

Get it on. Ow! Tonight is the night to become one. I need some love like I never needed love before. I had a little love. Now I'm back for more. love What a lot?

Well, I'll let love Now I'm right for more Love in love Get your spirit free Well, it's the only way to be It's the only way to be It's the only way to be

It's the only way to be It's the other way to be Maybe it's the only way to be And I see me on the way to be And I see me on now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So it's you, why I used to buy you, you, you do me, you see your own way to be, they want to pull the way to be, yeah.

That's the only way to bed. And it's the only way to you. Get more at frogpants. Give me the bird. Yeah, give me the bird.