The Morning Stream - TMS 2493: Upscaley Mayonnaise

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

Coming up on TMS, He's Bald now, but still cool. Sugar Booger. Teletubbies, taking drugs without all the expense. Play Your Holes and Get Out. Bongs and Golf. Grumpy Fertday Boy. AI-Created Oil. Think... of an accountant. That's what he looks like. Arby's - The Scumbag Dinner. Got a Nickleback from Kroger. My Accountant Is Hanging With Snoop Dog. Brian describes Math Metal. Burger King Hates Kids. Mushroom soup super dump. SAGging Profits with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TMS is brought to you daily by and large by the support of our patrons like Lobert, Kelly, Samantha, and Joshua at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on TMS, he's bald now, but still cool. Sugar bugger. Teletubbies taking drugs without all the expense. Play your holes and get out. Bongs and golf. Grumpy Furt Day Boy.
Starting point is 00:00:21 AI created oil. Think of an accountant. That's what he looks like. Arby's, the scumbag dinner. Got a nickel back from Kroger. Nice. An accountant is hanging with Snoop Dog. I describe math metal. Burger King hates kids.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Mushroom soup. Superdump. Sagging profits with Stephen and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. I still remember back in the old days of computers when 40 megabytes was a lot. Jeez, Dad. That's ancient history. Did you have black and white televisions back then, too? No, and we didn't have Duke Nuke him either.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And if you're not careful, neither will you. Sorry. Busted. I'm kind of a scumbag. As you can tell, I'm eating Arby's for dinner. The morning stream. Good. Real good. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday. 17th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian. Ibit. Hi, Brian. Hello. Hi. Hello. Brian coming off a hot
Starting point is 00:01:38 weekend, a concert going. That's right. It's been seven days of concerts, really. If you think about sparks on the Sunday and then the one that we went to Saturday night. But before we even do that, let's get this out of the way now for the recorded for the non-patrons. You cheap bastards, you. Happy birthday, Scott Johnson. Oh, thanks. Let's party. Oh, that felt better at the end there. Anyway, hey, thanks. Yeah, it's my birthday today, and I appreciate all the nice, the well-wishes. You know how it is, though.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I say this every year. Yes, you do. You want this part to get over with as quickly as possible. I'm grumpy about birthdays. I don't know why. I remember even as a kid not being super stoked about one's birthday, except for gifts. Really? Yeah. I remember, like, you know, oh, that's a cool thing you got.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Or, you know, I'd get like a boom box or something. but most of the time I kind of hated the attention sure it's weird most kids love birthdays I don't know I was just never really into it there is one picture of me out there where I was like seven or something
Starting point is 00:02:38 where I'm staring at a cake while I'm being sung to and I look really happy about it so I'll keep that so there was at least one birthday where you enjoyed it yeah I was way into it what I do I like other people's birthdays
Starting point is 00:02:51 I get really excited about those but I just don't just don't care but it's funny then let us get excited about yours then if you do one to others i appreciate that i am going to go get a really good burger today for my birthday so there's that kims take me lunch yesterday i'll tell you all about it oh really uh yeah that was it uh was it uh was it the concert burger or something else it was uh no the concert was saturday so this was me taking him into the airport and we stopped off at bad daddy's burger bar and uh there's a few of them here in denver i don't know if they're a nationwide chain but um
Starting point is 00:03:25 they're um they're local here three or four stores locally here really um and they are awesome uh really really good burgers fries tots um looks like alabama colorado i'd eat that this sounds great georgia yeah there's a few all over the country north carolina oh lots of north carolina geez that must be where they started because they've got like Oklahoma, South Carolina. Anyway, them southern people know how to make a fine burger in Tennessee. Really weird, like weird state. It feels a little scattered, but I guess it's all over the southeast and Colorado.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Colorado. Yeah. Just get one out there in the west. Why not? That's right. It's called Bad Daddy's Burger, and I had their mushroom, mushroom Swiss burger. We were talking about Swiss cheese on a burger, especially if you have sauteed mushrooms. And then they also had like a truffle.
Starting point is 00:04:23 aoli with it. Yeah. It's just mayonnaise, folks. It was really, really good. It was, uh... It really is just mayonnaise, right? That's all it is. Basically, I mean, it is a little, you know, it's a little, it's upscaley mayonnaise,
Starting point is 00:04:36 aoli, but it's, um... It has a few of the same ingredients. When people tell me that, I feel like I'm just getting yanked around a little. Like the menu... So Claire says it doesn't have egg. That's the difference. So it's aole is mayo without the egg. Is that the deal?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Oh. Well, then what is... Then that's just oil. Isn't it? Just oil then? Yeah, yeah. Which, guess what? The middle three letters of aoli, oil. It's oil with AI. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Oh, wow. We've split this conspiracy wide open. It's AI created oil. Damn it. Speaking of concert, so real quick here, before we get some of your tales of good concert going. Sure, sure. Get this funny text from my daughter the other night. So her and Dylan missed the,
Starting point is 00:05:22 they were supposed to go see of all bands Oh, what's the band Everyone hates? The Kroger led band? Oh, uh, Nickelback? Nickelback. They got nickelback tickets on a lark
Starting point is 00:05:33 as a funny kind of dumb idea to just go see a concert, right? Uh-huh. And it was going to be their first real date, date since the baby was born. But then this was the week everybody got sick and they got sick so they had to miss their concert.
Starting point is 00:05:47 No big deal. It's nickel back. It's a nickel back, yeah. But a week and a half later, they had tickets to see. Snoop Dog in concert with Wiz Khalifa or somebody like that.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Some other famous rapper type. Interesting pick for that. Maybe those two obviously go together, but it's an interesting pick for Carter. Yeah, for Taylor. I would have been surprised had they had, I don't know how they came about the tickets.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And I know they're, you know, they're pretty chill about whatever. They'll go see whatever. So they were going to go see this. And they did. They went. I get a text about, and we're watching the kids for them.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's just why this is significant. We get a text in the middle of this from Taylor going, you guys, I'm totally weirded out. We're like, what's matter? What's going on? She goes, Mark Barrett, and I'll explain that name in a second. Mark Barrett is at the Snoop concert with his wife. Now, Mark Barrett is my accountant.
Starting point is 00:06:42 All right? Okay. And Mark Barrett, I've had as an accountant for, I don't know, it's got to be like 20 years or something. Oh, wow. Okay. and he's 60 it's like 68 he's pushing 70 he's like he's still just you know still rocking and rolling but he's just pushing 70 why is this guy at a snoop concert because he's not there with like a grand kid or any of that it's like just him and his wife out there in wearing hoodies rocking out to snoop really oh that's great and if you saw this guy you go you go he is the most white bread the mark if you're listening, I apologize. He does listen sometimes. I'm not saying this is a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:07:23 But he's got very short, tightly cropped, very, very silver hair. He's had that since he was 40. Very prim, proper looking behind, you know, fits great in a suit. Just everything you think of when you think of an accountant, this is the guy. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Suit, like, I'm picturing a guy at a Snoop Dog concert wearing a suit, he's got the visor, like a picture accountant's having. that the tie is down a little bit, the first two buttons, or at least the first button is unbuttoned on the shirt. He's looking for withdrawal slips that he can't find. Yeah, he's basically, he should be this guy here.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Snoopy, Snoopy poop dog. He should be that. But he's not that. He's apparently much hipper and cooler than I thought. So he's out there just rocking out and like huffing in on the collective weed cloud that Taylor described to me, the place is so I'm sure so weeded up like this cracked me up because she's like there are cops and security everywhere at this event uh-huh uh-huh none of them cared at all about the drug use
Starting point is 00:08:31 about the about the weed they just let that happen they're there for any kind of weird you know somebody gets violent or somebody you know assault somebody or whatever they're there for other reasons to be on on alert and they're not going after i mean people are lighting up in front of the cops they got they're handing weed to each other in front of these cops and the cops are like blown it off if there's if this wasn't a sign that utah will be recreational weed within the next five years i don't know what is because yeah probably wow anyway it was a really good concert she said she was awesome but it weirded her out the whole time that just like two rows behind her is our accountant is the accountant no kidding in a hoodie with his wife and they're
Starting point is 00:09:11 almost 70 like i probably he's not singing along to every single word that snoop dog says because that could be problematic. Yeah, like him singing doggy style or something or rapping. Yeah, right. I can't even picture and I can't even get around it. So, and I asked her, I said, were they partaking in the, you know, the weed? She said, I couldn't tell, but all of us were kind of partaking whether we liked it or not, because it was so, it was just like a cloud, she said.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You could see the haze, and it's a semi-outdoor arena, but the haze hung around, like toward the beds. I'm sure, like a little cloud. Yeah, that's pretty much what we call Red Rocks. Yeah, that sounds about right. It's basically what it is, especially, like, you know, when certain bands come to town. Well, so how was, speaking, I don't know if there's a lot of weed at Dream Theater, but how was Dream Theater? There was a little bit like he could smell it wafting through, but it was, all right, it was a really good show. So Hammond came to town this weekend, Hammond Chamberlain, my co-host on Soundography.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Because he was able to score not just tickets, but backstage passes. for Dream Sonic, which is a three-band lineup concert tour with not just Dream Theater, but also Devin Townsend and Animals as Leaders. You know what it sounds like to me? It sounds like a new, Sega's got a new Sonic game coming out called Dream Sonic.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah, Dream Sonic, yeah, it easily cut, right? We're bringing back the Dreamcast. That's right. In Pog form. Yeah, no, it's a, so anyway, he had backstage passes because he interviewed the guitarist for Devin Townsend's band. A really, really nice guy. We went backstage, hung out with him a little bit in the catering room.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And let me tell you, the catering room is a few roundtables. One of them has scattered leftover Halloween candy and a giant aluminum tray of mac and cheese. Really? It looks like it's on the border of starting to dry out. That sounds like a really bad combo. Yeah. I mean, they had a refrigerator. I didn't see it was in the fridge,
Starting point is 00:11:16 but it was like right next to coffee set up, so I imagine you could go make yourself some coffee and stuff. But anyway, so we went out there, saw most of the Animals as Leaders show, and then all of the Devon Townsend's show. Devon Towns an incredible vocalist, and all this is Prague metal, by the way. As Hammond describes it,
Starting point is 00:11:41 Animals as Leaders, is Math Metal, so it's like I'm like little do little little little do do do do do do do do do do don't it's like I'm doing
Starting point is 00:11:51 solving the things in parentheses first and then I'm multiplying yeah I like this I never heard of math metal but I like it yeah sounds cool
Starting point is 00:12:00 they're all instrumental animals as leaders they were great I really really dug it we continued listening to him in the car on the way to the airport and then
Starting point is 00:12:10 Devon Townsend incredible vocalist except when he does that thing that I hate, which is the, you know, the hissy, yeah, cookie monster voice. My complaint about that, and I know there are probably people in the audience who like that stuff. Here's my complaint. You listen to different bands.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They all sound different. It's like, oh, yeah, that one is that band. And this band is, oh, bless the fall, they're great. Oh, and this other one is in harm's wake. And, oh, this other band. and then they do that and they sound exactly the same to me because you can't make that sound any different between guys and it just it hurts my throat to listen to it and it's offensive to my ears anyway so deventown's into that a couple times but uh all in all really liked his show as well um then we went backstage hung out with uh hammond's friend mike came back out and caught most of the rest of the dream theater show and enjoyed. We sat there probably for about, I don't know, 45 minutes,
Starting point is 00:13:16 so we really like that song. Yeah, get it, everybody. That's how long their songs go. That's how long their songs are, you see. They're long songs. I mean, obviously, it's the big joke that their songs are really long, but are they really, I mean, are they that long? They're really not that long.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Eight minutes, nine minutes. Now, Hammond did tell me, like, we were about to hear some song, called Count of Egypt or not Egypt. I hear some count of something. It sounds like one of other songs. Count of something. I love it. Count of something. And he basically said,
Starting point is 00:13:53 we should go. This is about a 20-minute song. Because he was being very conscious that, that, you know, it was getting late. We still had to take the train back. Tuscany. Thank you, Talley. We had to take the train back to, who knew Talley was a dream theater? Yeah, this is, I'm a little shocked by this news. This is insane. We learn more about her every day.
Starting point is 00:14:10 he's like I know you've got film sack in the morning he's like I think I'm done and you ready to go and I'm like are you sure this is dream theater like this he's like oh I can listen I've seen them a bunch of times before I really was here to see Devon Towns and Devin Townsend Towns and etc so like all right cool we hop back on the train we we rode the rest the way back home to Arvada and all and all great show yeah you beat the crowd which is smart
Starting point is 00:14:36 beat the crowd which is good yeah I always do this the thing I don't have normally when I'm at a, if I'm at a concert or some sort of late night venue thing, I always want to go a little early, mainly so I can beat the crowd. I want to be parking. I want to beat traffic, all that because I hate it, right? And the train's smart. That's a really smart way to do it, even though it adds a little time for stops and pickups and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:58 But I never know when's the right time. This is where I struggle, which is why it's nice to have a Hammond with you. He's like, well, this song's 20 minutes. If we leave now, it's another 15 before they're done. And you're really not going to miss anything. I mean, that's a great, that's a great key to have. Whereas when I do it, I'm like, I don't know what they're doing right now. Is this the last song?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Well, this I can tell you, if you're not familiar with setlist.com, Scott. Oh, I'm not. I don't ever use that. See, that's, well, I don't go that often either, but that's how. Go through and look at the set list. And then you can even figure out, like, it's almost like the Renpea. Remember how the Renpea app would tell you what part of the movie is the best time to go pee if you have to. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah, here's a, here's a long talky bit with Tom Cruise and John Voight. Go pee now. This is a really good time. You won't miss anything, I guarantee it. That's funny you bring that up. You've seen the new Tom Cruise thing, right? I have, yes. Yeah, hearing great things. I almost went last night, but got busy with the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:51 See it on the, I'm going to tell you all now. See it on the biggest screen you can because it's amazing. We're definitely going to see it this week. But, you know, if you're really anticipating part two of Dead Reckoning, well, we'll talk about that, but maybe when we talk with Stephen Schlecker. Maybe take a chair for a while. Yeah, right. But anyway, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:16:14 I was saying, oh, that I found out yesterday that John Voight is, or Tom Cruise is older than John Voight was in that first one. I believe it. And if you go look at pictures of John Voight and that, he looks old. He looks 60-something. And Tom Cruise doesn't. What is going, what dark magic has been cast over the Cruz family? No, Tom Cruise sold his soul to. Zinu is apparently what it is
Starting point is 00:16:41 and allows him to dance on couches and all that stuff. But yeah, no, knowing when to leave a concert is good. If it's a band I like, I'm definitely want to stay and see the encores. I never talk. Did I talk about the Sparks thing where I think they were playing a joke
Starting point is 00:16:59 on us? The end of the show, they do their second, or they do their encore and then they're like, oh, thank you, Boulder, you've been great. We're definitely going to come back here. We really enjoyed it. and everybody's standing up and clapping and they're like waving. And then they continue, we continue clapping. And then they, you know, they just keep, you know, putting their hands up, like, thank you, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And they just keep doing that. And they don't ever leave the stage. And I think it's a joke. I think it's like, how long can we make these people stand here? It seems like something they might do, right? It totally does, because obviously they're big on the kind of the tongue-in-cheek comedy. And I was describing, I leaned over to my uncle who was with me at the Sparks concert, and I said, it's like the you hang up first no you hang up first like it's you know they're saying you guys leave
Starting point is 00:17:43 no you leave no you leave i love that that's a part of sparks i love i'm never even seen them live but i know enough about them to know that that seems like something they would they would totally do totally totally does anyway so dream dream sonic uh good good tour if you uh if you're into that sort of music go see it uh talk randy into it because he's really on the fence he wants to yeah he was really on the fence saturday when we talked about it seemed like he was yeah that's funny though we were supposed to record an extra film sack on Sunday or yesterday and we're just finishing when we had literally just finished our Green Lantern episode we were about to roll into the next one and right then all three of my kids show up at the door and their significant others and the two little babies and everybody's like here going surprise breakfast fancy breakfast dad morning for your birthday early because we can't do it on Monday and I'm like oh shit so I had to leave I thought it was just going to go upstairs and pee and they'd all hang out but they had plans and so i was like oh damn it so i texted you guys and anyway i feel totally that's that's what you you know that is the thing and we all
Starting point is 00:18:47 said it that's what you should be doing scott not recording with us if they didn't have anything going on great we're happy to record with you but this is your family and this is as brian put it what are you going to remember the you know time your family took you out for your birthday breakfast or the time you recorded a podcast with three dudes about scary movies yeah well we already have almost 600 of those. Yeah, exactly. It's fair point. Well, anyway, I'm glad you had a good time, and I assume just a quick check that Tina is well, past the worst, all that stuff, is she doing all right?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Past the worst. Still has these random coughing fits, and she's still on the oxygen. She's still tethered to the oxygen machine, but she's needing it less and less. Good, good, good. Much, much better. I'm looking forward to when I'm really old, and I've got to drag one of those around with me on those. No, you're not. I can tell you right now that it is such a pain in the butt.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Like, she, she opted not to go with, uh, go places with Hammond and I, um, because of what a pain in the acid is to haul oxygen around and stuff. That's true. I don't want to, I never want that if I can help it. You never want that. Yeah. You know, it turns out your lungs, we really take him for granted, you know, like all this talk and we're doing on the show today, our lungs are required to admit the sounds we do. It is all coming out of our lungs. All of it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Without those working. Otherwise it sounds like this. Yeah. Yeah. So don't take your lungs for granted, people. Stop smoking. Treat them well. Yeah. Respect them. Yeah. Maybe cut down on the vape a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:16 What else can we judge people on? Let's see. Well, that's pretty much it, right? Move out of L.A. Although L.A. is not as bad as it used to be. It's just a stereotype now that L.A. has the worst stuff. You know what? Move out of Shanghai, China. They got really bad. That's the, if you take nothing else from our discussion here, it's, move out of Shanghai. Also, this heat is not helping with air quality.
Starting point is 00:20:40 We're at 102 or 3 today, or that's the forecast. And St. George is like 115. Vegas is like 117. Like, be careful out there. We're supposed to crest 100 here too. Yeah. It's hot, dude. Don't like it.
Starting point is 00:20:54 No, sir, I don't. It is hot and unpleasant. Yeah. But it is, we have low humidity here in the, in the mountain, inner mountain area, right? So we got somebody, one of our, listeners is coming from Charlotte, North Carolina. Is South Carolina? North Carolina. He's coming from there to hear for a while, and he was like, oh, I was really
Starting point is 00:21:15 hoping to escape the heat. And I'm like, dude, you are escaping the heat because... Yeah, you're escaping the humidity heat. It's a dry heat here. It's a dry. It's a dry heat. The joke is real. Yeah, it's a dry heat. Anyway, rest of soul, let's move on. Speaking of burgers, we've got a quick email about burgers. Yeah. Aborist Andrew wrote in. It says, I had to chime in on the burger topping discussion from Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:21:42 He's a tree man. Oh, arborist. What did I say? Aborist. Aborist. That's wrong. That's completely wrong, Aborist. They say the eyes are the first things to go, Scott.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's okay. Oh, my eyes have gone. Come back and gone again. Yeah, you guys, exactly. They haven't decided where they're going yet. Your eyes have been gone so long. You have a series of postcards from them for all the different places they visit. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Their favorite song is that been gone. a long song from that's their names. Anyway, I had to chime in on the burger topping discussion from Wednesday. Was that, I guess it was last Wednesday. You may think it sounds, he says, you may think it sounds weird, but peanut butter,
Starting point is 00:22:19 we thought we talked about it, but we're in agreement. We like the peanut butter on a peanut butter bacon burgers. They're so good. It says there's a restaurant here in Northern Virginia called Ted's Bulletin. I like that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But it has a peanut butter bacon burger that is amazing. They have peanut butter on the underside of the top bun, thick slices of bacon, and a tomato jam to finish it off. It's so good. Yeah, that 571 place that I'm going to today that I always mentioned, they have a really good peanut butter bacon burger. And for people to hear this and go, peanut butter, I mean, you don't even, you have no idea how good it is. It's so good. You know, you think, oh my gosh, that's not something that belongs on a burger.
Starting point is 00:22:59 ketchup is sweet, right? Come on, let's all admit it. You put ketchup on a burger. It's got a little bit of sweet. You've got a little bit of salty. peanut butter, same thing. It's a little mix of the sweet and salty and it goes so well with the meat
Starting point is 00:23:09 and the bacon. It's awesome. It's a place here in Denver called the Dark Horse that's known for their peanut butter and bacon burger. Yeah, they're fantastic. Benjian in the chat says diabetic diabetes burger.
Starting point is 00:23:19 No. It's most, that's like a ton of like protein. I mean, the bread, sure, but it's not like a big sugary burger. It's very, very good. Sugar burger. My wife used to call Nick that when he was a little sugar burger.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Sugar burger? Mm-hmm. Or, Sugar bugger. Sugar booger. She loved it. Sugar burger. It's a southern thing, I think.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I don't know. Must be. Can't explain it. Is there a kids show, right? Rugrats? Didn't they call one of the kids on there sugar bugger? Or maybe not? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I watched a lot of Rugrats because my kids were, I guess Tristan would have been too. I could definitely be wrong then. Maybe there wasn't a mention. What was Tristan's big? So Taylor's big thing was Barney and then Carter's was Littleest Playshop and Nix was Bob the Builder Yeah, Tristan liked Bob the Builder Early on he liked telitubbies
Starting point is 00:24:10 I watched it because it was like Taking drugs with all the expense Yeah Yeah, it is like that You're not wrong Yeah, but Yeah, Bob the Builder was big for him Blue's Clues, he was big on
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, Blue's Clues was big for my kids Yeah They have real nostalgia when they see that Steve guy you know yeah he was just here in denver for the fan expo was he uh uh he didn't see him so i couldn't tell you what he looked like what he's doing yeah he's just signing shit for 50 bucks a pop that's what he's doing exactly that's what he's doing uh 25 year olds because that's the age of the his greatest fan base i do wish that my kids would have had bluey though because bluey is a revelation it's the best it's not just the best kid's show on tv it might be one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:25:01 shows on TV like that's all right we need to i think we need to replace the uh the other count yeah how many days without another reference with the blueie reference scott oh god now i got you're watch bluey if you're asking me to draw blueie in a mad max uh setting you're you might get it i might do it oh good okay i'd like that i'll do bandit i'll watch a blueie i'll watch a blueie by the way icore said uh talking about uh uh blues clues guy what's the name Steve. Steve was the first one and then you had the other guy later. Yeah, the original, the original guy.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He said, he's bald now, but still cool. And I'm just going to say right now, I-Corps. Maybe the phrasing should be and. He's bald now and still cool. And still kind of still... Still a little bit, yeah. He's still cool because he's bald. Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That's the phrasing. Yeah, he's still cool. The baldness has made him cooler. he's cooler right exactly okay now we found it that's what we found it thank you yeah watch out you guys you gotta watch out with the bald exactly eye core oh just you wait i'm gonna be there when you're when your when your forehead starts turning into a five head i'm gonna be watching one of my kids took a picture of me and i didn't know they were back there and it was from the rear and i forget i've i have a decent amount of hair right yeah yeah but i forget that right up here is a little thin and when you
Starting point is 00:26:29 get the right angle with the right lighting yeah yeah it's a big old looking bald spot piece of business back there yeah yeah real bullshit brian don't like it but you over there embracing it you know what i should do i should just i should embrace it and shave it like you do just go and be done you know just be done with it i'm sure i'm gonna i'm sure that day is coming at some point it'll happen yeah i like like they say on the silo today is not that day no no Embrace what you got. You still have enough to make a decent foahawk. There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Oh, speaking of foahawks, this is not a transition. Tell me about the heater guy. What did he send you? What did you get? Yeah, so for no reason other than he, like, he basically sent me a three-sentence letter, an eight-and-a-half by 11 sheet of paper with three sentences on it. Love it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it funny, it says, no subject at the top. So basically he typed this, like he wrote this as an email, and then it just printed it. Oh, wow. Hey, Brian. found these and thought you might enjoy. Thanks for the entertainment. P.S. Since you like makers, here's my website, dragonfly scales.net. Check it out. It is actually really cool. He makes like, he makes, uh, if you've got these like Ector style wallets, uh, or those other wallets where you can pull things out the blade style wallets, um, he makes really cool blades for
Starting point is 00:27:48 those. Nice. Um, I think that's what they are. Uh, and then, uh, he said, signed the other guy, A.K. Scott's Heater guy. And he sent me a bag. I guess he must go to Burger King, or maybe works at a Burger King or something. They sent me a bag full of these. Oh, what? Pokemon Power. Okay. And they are assumingly whatever Burger King's equivalent of the Happy Meal is, Happy Meal Toys. So you open it and you get yet another bag. Okay. Yeah. Burger King hates kids. And you're heard it here first, everybody. He hates kids. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And inside, you've got these little three-dimensional... Oh, I thought it was 2D until you turned it. That's cool. Yeah, a little Pokemon card deals, and there's even a stand. It comes with a stand. Yeah. I guess depending on what type it is, this is an electric type, so it's like an electric stand. You put the card in the stand.
Starting point is 00:28:49 All right. And then you've got like a little... You've got to put the thing in the stand a little bit. better than I did. Yeah. There we go. That's an important aspect. There you go.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And you can basically display it as a little electibus in this case. But here, check this out. What is it? Light up? Is it lit up? This one does. You pulled a little tab out. Now, my Pikachu, I also have a Pikachu.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah. This one does not light up or it doesn't make its Pikachu noise. It's got a little speaker. Yeah. I pulled the little tab to release the electricity, so it should make noise, but it doesn't. batteries dead on this guy too I don't know how old these Pokemon power things are from Burger King
Starting point is 00:29:29 but the batteries have been drained it is it looks like it is replaceable maybe not I'm looking at it they don't see any screws or anything so I think oh yeah this came out with the movie
Starting point is 00:29:41 Pokemon 2000 so that's the one all the fans love that's considered the height of Pokemon theater it is yes exactly I think that's yeah I believe That's not the one where Pokemon or Pikachu started talking and saying words other than
Starting point is 00:29:57 No I don't think so although it may have ended with something like that Like a revelation that you could say other words Or some dumb shit like that I don't remember At the time I can tell you in the year 2000 I was not into Pokemon So it was not either Tristan has this movie on DVD or had it
Starting point is 00:30:15 I don't know if he still does but Let's open another one here let's see what we got Yeah she'll get done away in here though for This is like a oh yeah I'll get him in early Also, Fletcher would like to say this. The morning stream. Come over here, Mr. Pokemon Man, and let me get a peek at you. I love that one.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I love that one. I hope another one. I get another electibus. So someone, if they win a feud this week, they're going to get an electabuzz card. Oh, nice. And some other stuff, obviously. Love it. We love when you guys send us weird shit.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Keep it coming. Brian's got a P.O. box. I've got a P. got a P.O. box. It's up on our site. Both P.O. I don't have a P.O. box anymore because that guy moved Dwayne. He was a... Oh, I hope I don't have it on the site still, do I? Oh, I hope not. People can send you shit that's not getting to you. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yeah, because you know where it's going? It's going to that the place where I get my nose waxed. Oh, that's right. Oh, no, this one has the M. The M.C. I don't know why I'm not saying it. It's up on the Internet. Yeah, it's on the website. The Moss Circle. Yeah, it's on there. It's got the Moss Circle. Cool. All right. Yeah. So, winner, whener a feud this week gets a elect-a-buzz card.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Nice. Maybe even a second. I'll see if that other one is another repeat, but... Well, there you have it. Let's do this now. Oh, that's quiet. This is what I meant. With the stoic patience of a wise man, we have with us, Brian Dunaway, joining us for today's half-asses.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Hello, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi. Oh. I'm calling from the bat. cave today, so don't have my normal stellar quality. You sound fine. Yeah, you sound fine. Real
Starting point is 00:31:56 quick, you had a really cool weekend. I went to like a retro game convention thing. Sounds awesome. That's right. I went to these yeah, I went to the Southeast Game Exchange, which was on Saturday and Sunday, and was much larger than I thought and had way more cool
Starting point is 00:32:12 stuff than my wallet could bear. But I did come back with a Sega master system in the Altered Beast in Ghostbust. A light gun or something, right? Didn't you tell me that you also got a light gun? Yeah, which I didn't realize Sega Master System had a light gun ever. There's only like about five games or so that you can use with it,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and I've ordered one of those games, which happens to be Rambo 3. Rambo 3. Ah, yes. The classic light gun, everyone talks about. Do you shoot stuff as Rambo, or do you shoot stuff to help protect Rambo from other things that are going to happen to them. That's a great question. There is no real way of knowing it just has Rambo in the cover.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You don't even know if you're shooting as Rambo or to assist Rambo. If you're shooting at Rambo, I don't know, maybe this is a really bad Titan game. This is a time when they just made games and then they put somebody on the cover. We'll find out soon, I suppose. No, no, no. That's an epic time in video game history. I love it. Well, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's good to have you here. We're going to play a little half-asses in the next 15 minutes or so, and we're going to have Brian here explain how it works and who our mystery contestant people are, Brian. Take it away. Welcome to the morning. Half-ass is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you to the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Three of those answers are correct. Three of them are lies, lies, lies, yeah. Depending on how confident they feel with a category, they can provide one, two or three guesses. But if you get any wrong, you get zero points for that round. Get one right and you get a point, get two right, get to three points, get all three correct and you get five points total play with the most points after three rounds
Starting point is 00:33:51 wins the prize for their contestant and our contestants have been pulled from members of the tadpool that aren't able to listen live. Scott, you're going to be playing for Cameron in Marino Valley, California. Oh, nice. Brian, you're going to be playing for Mark in Hopkinton, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Ooh, Mark from Massachusetts. Yeah, Massachusetts. Mark and Mass. And games today come, boy, from everybody, Rodney Larson, Stick Fight, Kelly Snow's, Broken, The Sword, Directors Cut. These are Tadpoolers who sent us games. And from Racer, 951 Y, System Shock 2. A lot of great games that you could win today.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I agree. Big shout out, by the way, real quick. I wanted to give them some credit before because it'll take a while for us to get to all these. But a lot of times you guys will send us a huge list of games that we can use here on the show. And we don't always give the credit where it's deserved. So I'm going to give this person just a quick shout out. We got a huge list of new games from... Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:34:47 his name is taken it's taken forever because he gave us so many games his name is okay you have to scroll down to the bottom of the list it's so many you guys oh i can't even find it all right well it's a huge thanks he knows who he is he sent us a gigantic list of games and if you guys at home if you guys at home have games that you're like man i got to get rid of these links to humble bundles or all this stuff i'm never going to use we will take your humble bundle we will take them all right all right anyway sorry There's an inside baseball for you. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 All right. Let's get to question number one. Names that were once more popular for boys than girls in the U.S. So six names that at one time three of these were more popular for boys than for girls. Your choices are Meredith, Trudy, Zoe, Madison, Grace, and Sandy. Which three of these were more popular for burrs than for girls? For burgh. I've chosen too
Starting point is 00:35:46 because I think I'm right but the rest I don't know I have no idea I think I'm right I think I'm correct Dunaway's wrong He's often wrong Let's find out
Starting point is 00:35:57 All right You guys both locked in You guys both locked in with two And You both locked in with Madison and Sandy Oh You're both correct Yeah well done
Starting point is 00:36:08 You almost went with Meredith You should have went with Meredith Yeah Meredith Yeah Meredith Madison and Sandy were once more popular for boys than for girls. Wasn't there a famous... Oh, Burgess Meredith, Meredith,
Starting point is 00:36:18 I'm thinking of. That's not right. Yeah. That's the last name. Meredith Bexter, Bernie. Oh, there you go. That's a lady. First name lady, last name man.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Sure. My grandpa, my grandpa, Trudy, used to say, why'd you name me that mom? Trudy. I can't picture it. Anyway. All right. All right, let's get you guys.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You guys are both on the board. Three points each. I like it. that you're taking chances. All right, let's get question number two. Which of these are real Charlie Chaplin movies, the little hobo? Safety last, Tilly's punctured romance, city lights, the tramp, and Marcia gets confused. Oh my gosh, Marsha gets confused.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That sounds like an episode of the, what was that called, Brady Bunch. It does, it. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha, Marble. Little Hobo, Safety Last, Tilly's punctured romance, city. Lights, the tramp, and Marsha gets confused. All right, I'm picking two again because I don't know for sure. You guys are both.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You guys both locked in again. And you both locked in on the tramp. Yeah, the tramp is from 1915, a very much a Charlie Chaplin movie. The other ones you chose, City Lights and the little hobo. One of them is? One of them is, City Lights is Scott.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Got that one right. So he's now got six points. The other one is. as Tilly's Punched Romance. Wow. Now it sounds dirty. Yeah. Is the other, uh, what is that even mean?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Tilly's Puntured Hyman. No, I don't know if what that movie is, but it's, uh, you went there. Happy birthday. You went ahead. Uh, uh, you went across the line. I'll forward right across it. I'll forward the emails. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That's fine. Forward them over me. I'll take them. Oh, wow. Look at Merrick. Merrick, the first one with a Brian. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Ryan. Amazing. All right. That puts me a head done away. I hope you feel okay about that. Well, what was it? Oh, I'm so stupid. Of course, the little hobo is the same as the tramp.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Right. He was known as the little tramp, I think, was his nickname. But not hobo. All right. Let's get a question number three quickly. Parents of Twins, which three of these people are parents of twins? Stephen Spielberg, Farah Fawcett, Mariah Carey, Martha Stewart, Muhammad Ali, and George W. Bush. Three of these people have twins for offspring.
Starting point is 00:38:53 They got to keep them separated. Oh, different offspring. Got it. Yes. Boy, howdy. Would it be different offspring? Oh, the band. The band, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to pick two again. And I don't have any. This is completely other than. one of them. You have to get three. If you want to win, you have to pick three, Brian. Oh, do I?
Starting point is 00:39:16 No, is that true? What if he misses? Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah, you could tie. If he whiffs and you. We could tie and then you'd have a tie. We're going for the tie.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. Going for the tie. All right. All right. You guys both settled in on Mariah Carey. What made you guys pick Mariah Carey? I don't know. She just has a ton of kids with what's his name and I just thought maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. This is the most. She is. Because I don't know anything. she's the one I don't know anything about. I actually know something about the rest of these people. The only one I know for sure doesn't is George W. Bush. His daughters are not twins.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, really? Because they're the Bush twins. Are they Bush twins? Yeah. Bush twins? Yeah. As a matter of fact, that's all right. So you could have had three, Scott. You instead did get two. Muhammad Ali and Mariah Kerry giving you the win.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Brian, you also did get points for Mariah Carey and George W. Bush, but it was not enough to win. I'm glad you didn't think, well, Brian might know that I need three to win. Right, right, right. Complete guess on this. Complete guess. And then the George W. Bush one blows my mind.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I thought Jenna and whatever her name is. I thought they were like, I knew they were rebellious. I didn't know they were twins. They were twins. They were they rebelled. Were they fraternal? Fraternal twins? Crawling out of the crawling past the Secret Service, crawling out of the window to go party at night,
Starting point is 00:40:33 there was the Bush twins. But weren't they, were they fraternal? I mean, were they identical? I don't know if they were identical. Maybe that's what threw me as they were fraternal. I think they're fraternal. That's probably what threw me, because they don't look like each other, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. Anyway. But anyway, you guys did get all three correct. You just didn't, nobody went for all three. Muhammad Ali, George W. Bush, Marikari, Carey, and congratulations to Scott, which means congratulations. Also, going to Cameron in Marino Valley, California. You're going to get a copy of Stick Fight and Broken Sword, Director's Cut.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But, Mark, in Hopkinton, you're not going away. M.D., you're getting System Shock 2, which is all. also a really good game. A better game. Is it? No, I don't know about that. I think maybe it's as good. Hey, how about as good? How about that? As good, sure. Yeah. Real quick here. I was it going to say, I was going to say, oh, is Mariah Carey Nick Cannon still, they're still a thing? They're a married couple. I don't think Nick Cannon's really a thing with anyone. He's, he's the thing with everyone and nobody at the same time. Okay. I didn't know if they were, but are they, I mean, are they together? Are they, are they? I don't think they are. I think he's, he's, he's, he's, impregnated at least four women since Moranakini. You might think I'm joking, but I think that is the case. I think you're right. Okay. Well, sorry, Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He's no stranger to love. No stranger to love. Let's say that. Let's see that. I'm already in trouble with my joke earlier. Yeah, you're still licking that wound. You may not want to rip that band-aid off just yet. Well, awesome. Well, awesome. Well, done, everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:08 We, oh, we should play a thing for our winner. Who ate all on my fries? That's not it. Congratulations. You're a winner. You are a winner. And we love playing this. If you want to be a contestant here and be one of these names, Brian, how do they do it?
Starting point is 00:42:22 Sure. They go to, I think we still have the links pinned in the Discord and on the Facebook group. Just look for the I want to play link that lets you play. Do we have it on the frogpants.com slash TMS page? I'm looking right now. But if we don't, I think I will add that today. Okay. We don't.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I will add it today. We don't, okay. Sometimes we forget things. Let me know. Yeah, you might need a, I don't know if you need a link from me, but if you do, let me know. Link add to TMS site. Okay. We do this all in real time, everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You do. You get to see how the sausages man. That's right. Dunaway, your sausage is awesome. And we'll get to see it again on Wednesday. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's great. It's tasty.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. When you come back Wednesday, we'll have a live person on here to play with, and that's always a little more stress. Are you excited about? about your chances there? Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm always excited. I love it when there's a live person here because then I can blame it on them for when you lose.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That's right. Yeah. And your two episodes, by the way, in the red here. You lost last time and you're losing today. Not the scouts keeping track or anything. Not at all. But you'll notice on... Let's just go back and check the tape, but before then,
Starting point is 00:43:26 just see hell. No, I had a streak of losing. You're not wrong. So I just feel good right this minute. I'll try to enjoy it while I can. But in the meantime, we hope you have a great week. To be, to be honest, I just didn't want to beat you on your birthday. Oh, my birthday, Scott.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Thanks, man. I'm happy to have a birthday and you to help you celebrate. Bye now. No. I hope he never not says birthday, you know? Birthday. I know, no. I hope that's always a thing, too. Don't change it or correct it, Brian.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They say it's your birthday. Yep. And it's my birthday, too. Yeah. Right. That's right. All right. We're going to do one news story.
Starting point is 00:44:03 This will be fun. So here you go. it's time for the news and it's brought to you by whole mushroom soup Kim made a mushroom soup with like you know cutting up fresh mushrooms and made it yeah she does it with oat milk instead of uh you know other stuff so it's very it's kind of dairy free creamy soup yeah here's the problem though it's not her fault she made the soup I could just eat a small bowl of the soup but because I love it so much I ate a lot of it And as a result, well, let's just say that there's a lot of fiber in, in, in, in, in, sure, yeah. So, you know, change you out. Yeah, had a bit of a moment there with it. And, uh, anyway, thanks, honey. It was real good.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Uh, let's do this story here. A man stole a forklift at a Lowe's and then he immediately drove it over to a Home Depot and ran over a 73 year old outside the Home Depot. So a Lowe's, forklift over to a home depot. The Home Depot to the Lowe's, I'm sorry, from the Lows to the Home Depot in a forklift and ran over a dude outside. Wow, there's a lot to unpack. There's a lot. He's only 20. 20-year-old's been arrested in the killing of the woman, the poor lady, died in the Home Depot parking lot, according to Maryland officials.
Starting point is 00:45:22 This happened at 12.40 a.m. Why was she walking? Oh, wow. And that seemed a little weird time a day? I guess that's when you can steal a forklift a lot easier because they're closed. That's true. They must have them parked outside. I just don't know what a 73-year-old lady's doing on a parking lot at 1230.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. Anyway, Bruce Caleb Timothy Brown of Waldorf, not to be used with the salad. Yeah, I know. Whenever there's that many names, trouble's a foot. Exactly. Bryce Caleb, Timothy Brown, get over here. Yep. He's accused of breaking into the Lowe, stealing the forklift and ramming it through the rear gates.
Starting point is 00:46:00 He then made his way to Home Depot, about half a mile east of the Lowe's. Gloristine Picney, age 73. What a name, Gloristine Picney. Gloristine. Usually you can say like, oh, parents couldn't decide between these two names. That's where we have, you know, Sean Frini or something like that, right? I couldn't decide between Sean and Anthony. But Gloristine.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And what is that? Gloria and Epstein. Christine? Christine. Oh, there you go. Gloristine. Ask your doctor if Gloristine is right. you.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. She was asleep in her car when the brown, or sorry, when she was struck by this stolen forklifts. So she wasn't walking around. Pickney got out of the car after the crash and then started running away. Let's see. Oh, she started running away so she didn't die immediately.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Oh, geez. That's awful. No kidding. Oh, here it is. Deputy said he, then he hit her after. That's what it was. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Okay, he sucks. Do they know these? Did he know Bryce, Caleb, Timothy Brown? Because it certainly seemed like he had a reason to go after Gloristine. I don't know. By the way, she died. It's really sad. And it's really sad.
Starting point is 00:47:16 We're not making fun. It's still, oh, my God. Yeah. I'm even sadder because that name is rad and she should live as long as she can. Oh, and then he stole her car. So he ran over with the forklift and then stole her car. Jeez. And then hit her with the car.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Oh, no. Hit her with the forklift, then took the car. Yeah. man what a douche where are his parents man you guys screwed up what did you do to brice 20 year old geez louise a little young you know uh well there's your news we're gonna take a break when we come back stephen schliker will be here we're also going to do an app slap you today so much yeah some of you in our community are not going to be surprised about my pick because a bunch of you've been playing this with me and i'm kind of obsessed with it i've been say the same thing
Starting point is 00:47:58 i've been playing this with a bunch of tadpoolers as well oh good good. That's awesome. It'll be fun. Yeah. Look at that. It may be Scott's birthday, but you're all getting the presents. That's right. Happy you're having a better day than me, everyone. Good job. Good job. Brian, let's make our day better with music. You got a song to play in the middle here. What do you got? I think we may have played these guys before, but certainly not this song. They're from Philly. They're a rock band called Soraya. S-O-R-A-I-A. Not to be confused with A-O-L-E. These guys don't have oil in the middle of their name. There's their brand new single that's kicking off their West Coast tour.
Starting point is 00:48:32 The single is called Wretch Like Me. This is great. This stuff, it's some rocking stuff here. Here's Soraya with a brand new single, Wretch Like Me. Do you hear the voices calling it while all the shadows fall behind you, the sepulchreaching on giant shoulders breaching how you'll raise the dead from brain. Whip the smile right off your face It's just spray pain and not a war
Starting point is 00:49:05 What's the reason you came here for Came here Are you a wretch? Are you a wretch like me? Are you that's like me? Every time the sun lays down Cause a wretch like me Where's her wicked deeds
Starting point is 00:49:35 Beneaths of her crown Do you want to stand tall With God or the devil Just like me More words and empty speeches The lust from the leeches As they break their bread From grace
Starting point is 00:49:57 Whip the moon from on your face Patron, saints and holy wolves Who's the God you're fighting for Fighting for? Are you a wretch like me? Are you a wretch like me? time the sun lays down Because a wretch like me
Starting point is 00:50:32 What's a wicked deed When he forgot it's of her crime A wretch like me Are you a wretch like me All the times he made me Crom Winter hides inside these walls Used to cry and watch me bow
Starting point is 00:50:57 My tear drops falling to the sea Seems losing everything I need Are you a wretch like me? Are you rest like me? Every time the sun lays down Oh, cause a latched like me, once held with your deeds when you're the guy, When the silence of her crown Are you a wretch like me? Are you less like me? Every time the sun is down
Starting point is 00:51:52 Oh so wretched like me We're to wickety's beneath the silence of a crown A wretch like me When wake you mornings up, I wake normally at six hours up, then eat I breakfast and go to work. At six hours wake you up, this is me too early. What make you workly? I'm a German teacher by work. How like it to your German teacher to be? It makes to me, of course, joy. You are not a Play Mario Cot or go skateboarding for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And we're back, everybody. Hey, Brian, that song, I need to know more. Tell me more. That's the brand new single from the band Soraya. It's called Wretch Like Me. Go see him if you're on the West Coast. Yeah, why not? Why not?
Starting point is 00:53:01 I'm such a dumbass. I forgot to record video today, which is fine, because all I have to do is then download the stream and then cut it and put it. It's fine in the butt, though. Yeah, so, you know, a little extra something to do on a Monday. It's fine. Whatever. It's not like it's my birthday or anything.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's not like it's your birthday. Birthday. I think Brian's right around the corner. You don't have long, you know, before it's your birthday. A couple weeks before mine. Yep. All right. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Stephen, that's what? uh we're going to bring stephen in here we are in the middle of a major major strike in hollywood uh a combined strike now we're going to talk a little bit about that and more so stick around and now welcome stephen to the show he's a huge freaking nerd dollar dollar bills y'all yo yo it's stephen schliker all the way from major spoilers dot com which uh hails all the way from haze kansas which is just really a big flat piece of bread out there you know that's all that it's fine it's fine hope you enjoy living on bread Uh, hello. How do you, how do you feel, Stephen, to being a little bit of butter on bread? How's that feel?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Hello fellows. Yes, I feel fine. I am the butter to your bread. Oh, good, good. It's always nice to have you on. I look forward to it every time. We really are in a weird time, though, right? Like I'm hearing about all these things like Tom Cruise's show, or second part of his new movie is getting delayed because they had to stop production. They stopped production on 100 other projects. And even Mahershala Ali has officially left the Blade project because now this just one thing on top of another. There was already a million delays in issues with that thing. And now they're delayed yet again. And he's like, I'm out. I don't want to do this anymore. Yes, Scott. So see, when you have a union composed of actors and or writers or writers and actors and they
Starting point is 00:54:48 decide to go on strike, it means that if you are part of that union, you don't work. Yeah. You go and you pick it and you strike and you say, hey, we want better residuals. We need more of a base. We need to keep up with inflation. We don't want AI actors being duplicated and doing whatever you want with us. us. And so, yeah, everything has to stop, including, you know, the Deadpool movie, which we were talking about last week with the costume, the yellow and blue Wolverine costume.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And, yeah, now the, now Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 2 is held up because they, first of all, the ending hasn't been finalized yet. Oops. Jeez. So that was a writer problem before the act is said. Before the strike, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Wow. And so, yeah, if you were hoping that.
Starting point is 00:55:35 that this movie was going to hit theaters in 2024. Yikes. Oh, no. You know I've noticed, though? So I had a couple of conversations with some local people. I won't give names because I think one of the lessons
Starting point is 00:55:47 I don't want to get him mad. But he basically made this comment like, ah, it's a bunch of babies in Hollywood and millions of dollars isn't enough. They've got to try to get more. So he's coming out of from this weird angle. Yeah. So one of the things to kind of keep in mind
Starting point is 00:56:02 is that contracts for both SAG and Writers Guild and Directors Guild and IOTC and all these things they are renegotiated every so often. For SAG and Writers Guild it's every three years. So in the last three years
Starting point is 00:56:18 inflation and cost of living increases have increased so much that if you get $30,000 for a project, which is about average for Writers Guild, right? That's only got the spinning power of $25,000.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, you basically took a pay cut during that time. Yeah, so if you are somebody, and again, think about, and I don't know, I know with my job, I get to go in and sometimes get to negotiate what my pay raise is or we have our union that goes in and negotiates our pay raise and so on and so forth. Right, sure. But if you work at a job where you can't go in every year for your evaluation period and say, hey, boss, how about kicking me up another 25 cents per hour for my, for my work? wages. If you're not doing that, then you definitely are probably behind the ball when it comes
Starting point is 00:57:08 to, um, you know, earning a living that you can, that you can live on. That's why I was annoyed with this guy because he's just looking at it from this weird, he's got all kinds of filters, right? Filters about what he thinks Hollywood is versus what it actually is. So we're not talking about, we're not talking about Tom Cruise. He's fine. Right. We're not talking about George Clooney. We're not talking about mega stars. Right. They're fine. What we are talking about. And those megastars, by the way, support this. They're all, you know, ready for this to be a thing, too. We're talking about work-a-day people, people that get day rates on set, people who
Starting point is 00:57:42 have very small roles or are doing writing behind-the-scenes stuff you never hear about or see or whatever. Jenny Josephson's husband, Matt, for example. Good example, right? Victoria Robinson has done a lot of background. Yeah, there we go. Right, and you're not looking, we don't look at them and go, oh, these ultra-rich are complaining.
Starting point is 00:58:00 No, we know they need these negotiations and they need to be. treated fairly. So I tried to explain this to him. And he says, but look how much money they make. I'm like, you've conflated two things. You've conflated the need for work a day people to get paid what's fair. And what the studios are making, those are two separate things, very separate things. That's the problem. So when you get a guy like Bob Iger getting up going, oh, I'm real concerned about these attitudes out there, these people. And he's like, yeah, you're worth $630 million. You made $30 million last year. Shut up, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:35 He made 27, I think. Currently, the highest paid producer, executive at the studios is Aslaab, who's making, like, potentially $27 million. Yeah, he's a pooh-pooh. He has a base salary of $3 million. Iger has a base salary of $1 million. Yeah. But then they have these bonuses that are, you know, that they... But nobody else gets those.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Like, some of them do. But, like, you sent us this breakdown. Okay, so, yeah. So, first of all... Let's talk about this. With all this stoppage, your broadcast television stations are going to need a lot of programming. And, of course, the last time we had the writer strike in 2007, 2008, that was where we got reality television becoming a big thing. That's how you got Trump as president.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Do you want that to happen again? No. No. I mean, support the SAG after and the Writers Guild. So one of the things that Disney has announced is that Ms. Marvel, the television series, which was a Disney plus original movie or television series. is, yep. Yeah, is going to be playing on ABC this fall as part of their quote-unquote new programming. So I said, okay, let's just calculate and see is a TV show making money or losing money. And number one, I'm not an accountant. Number two, this is back of the envelope math. Number three, I have intentionally put in some things that are fallacies to this to point out a bigger problem. And one of the reasons why SAG and WGA are on strike. So, but since the release of Ms. Marvel, the television, series on Disney Plus. In the last year, Disney's originals have produced 64 original programs. Now, that includes things like dramas like The Mandalorian or Secret Invasion, comedy shows,
Starting point is 01:00:15 animation shows like Star Wars Bad Batch and What If? We have docu series. There are variety shows and reality shows in there. There are shorts that I am including inside of all of this, as well as specials, episodic things, non-English comedy, etc. That's all included in this. So, if we look at the monthly subscribers of Disney. So this is a little bit hard to get through. I had to go to a couple of different places, but I did reference this from the last quarterly statement from Disney. They say they have with all of their on-demand services, that includes Hulu, ESPN, and Disney Plus. They have somewhere at around 150 million subscribers. If you look online, other people will say Disney Plus has around 110. I just went with 108 million subscribers.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Disney does say that the average, the average cost per subscriber is $7.14 per month. I would actually put that a little higher, but maybe there are more people who are using the ad tier-based system than the premium system. That means that per month, Disney Plus is grossing somewhere in the neighborhood of $771 million or around $10 billion a year. Yeah. Okay, they list the expenses in the quarterly report that I extrapolated to be yearly as around $3 billion. And those expenses do include the expenses with ESPN and Hulu, right? Yeah. So I just took a sliver of that and said, well, let's just say Disney is going, Disney Plus is going to absorb all of the expenses for all the streaming.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Because I'm going to bet that some of Hulu is being shared on those same Disney studios. Which means that Disney is making net profit estimate of about. $5 billion. You divide that by 64 original shows. Again, there right there is one of your first indicators that I'm putting something in that is throwing these numbers off. That means that for each show, each of those 64 shows released in the last year, they had about $91 million to spend on those shows. Ms. Marvel had six episodes, which means they had about $15 million to spend on that show per episode, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:02:24 We know that through various reporting that Disney has said that they want to spend between $15 and $25 million on Star Wars and Marvel's shows. So the first season of Mandalorian, for example, $15 million in episode. Wanda Vision was $25 million in episode. If we split that down the middle and say that the average cost was $20 million for Ms. Marvel, which I don't believe because there's a lot of unknown actors, the special effects weren't anything spectacular, but let's say $20 million. That means the cost to make Ms.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Marvel was around $120 million, which means they lost about $28 million on that show. Makes sense. Sure. I think your math holds up. Okay. So, Brian, you're a genius here of all of us. Sweet. Where are some potential fallacies in this?
Starting point is 01:03:17 I know I threw out a lot of numbers. You did. So do we want to combine all? All of the Disney originals or just the Marvel? So that's one of the problems, right? It is a docu series like the Marvel's Hero Project. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Right. It doesn't necessarily cost the same. It's not going to cost $920 million. Right. It's going to cost a fraction of that. And certainly when you have other shows that are episodic shows, the shorts, the Chippendale Park Life or the what-if anthology series, those did not cost $25 million an episode.
Starting point is 01:03:52 For sure. And different episodes, there are different numbers of episodes on some of these so you can't really divide it by the same number. But, I mean, it's, you know, other than that, I mean, it's, uh, yeah, I would agree with you. The, the, the average Disney plus subscriber probably spends more than, uh, seven bucks.
Starting point is 01:04:11 If I go in and I change that to, you know, the, um, low end is what, $7.99 or something like that or $6.99 and the high end is $11.99. And I, and if I just go in and change that one number to $9,000, uh, which is the even split on that. That means that they make a billion dollars a month just off of that with those extra couple of dollars. Yeah, and you're not even counting. I mean, I know you've accounted for Hulu and ESPN as cost, but ESPN and Hulu are also
Starting point is 01:04:36 individually subscribed to, but I don't know how many people. Yes. So you kind of break that down, but they don't give actual numbers for Hulu and ESPN plus on that. So that's also throwing these numbers off as well. What I'm doing is just saying, okay, how for much Disney spent on? these shows and how much are they bringing in, does that make cost sense? And certainly the streamers are saying, or the companies are saying, oh, no, we're losing millions of dollars through our
Starting point is 01:05:02 streaming services. Look, Stephen just proved it here. We lost, you know, a whole episode and a half's worth of budget on this. We don't know what the budget or Ms. Marvel was. And the only people who are going to know what the actual budget was and the actual cost is, is the producers and the studios. So if we don't know what the actual budget was and we don't know where the money you went, it's perfectly easy to see why Disney and other studios, I'm not just saying Disney, can say, oh, I'm sorry, you know, the girl who plays Ms. Marvel in this TV series. You don't have any residuals because we haven't made any money yet. Oh, we would love to pay you more, but this cost us so much.
Starting point is 01:05:44 We can't afford to pay you more than that. So they're not recognizing some of this as the lost leaders that they are. right like no or we just don't know whether these shows made money or lost money we're just going by what the studio is telling us yeah that's the problem it's part of this is a metrics problem like you used to we used to think the nelson ratings were hard to figure out how they applied to actual payout slash viewership all that stuff right that was nothing compared to this mess because this mess involves so much minutia so many little weird yeah that's one of the things that both the writers guild and the screen actors guilds that after are asking you for is a lot more transparency on these budgets. What I have given you is a classic example of the Hollywood accounting system where we're constantly shuffling things around that anything that can be attributed to the marketing of a show, that cost gets attributed to that show. So every time you see a Ms. Marvel commercial being run, even if it's months later,
Starting point is 01:06:47 that is still being targeted towards the cost of that particular show. So this is why Empire Strikes Back, I've mentioned this before, has never made, is never in the black because of this Hollywood accounting system. There have only been a few times like Thor to Dark World and one of the Spider-Man films were actually sued because people wanted to know what the actual budgets on accounting were. You can go out and find those and see how much they spin on that and you can start extrapolating some things. But it's really amazing and it's really kind of a rip-off for the actors and the writers in this case. Now, let's go a step further. If you go back and read the Disney Quarterly report, they said that their broadcast systems have lost money.
Starting point is 01:07:29 But in this day and age where every television station is going to be scrambling for something to keep the viewer's attention, for Disney the Corporation, Ms. Marvel has already been, that money's already been spent. They've already made the money off of that. Yeah, you're done. They could do a really good deal as a favored nation to their ABC. television stations and say, hey, we're going to sell you each episode for $10,000 and we'll make $60,000. That will do nothing to the dent of the $28 million that were already in the hole.
Starting point is 01:08:01 If we think now every episode is between 37 and 50 minutes, so that's going to average out to about 36 commercial breaks for those six episodes. Yeah, but that, see, that makes things really tough because they're not fit. They're not timed for typical terrestrial broadcast. Oh, here's what you're going to have to keep in mind. guarantee you that 50 minute or 57 minute finale is going to either be two hours or an hour and a half or two harder or two harder right right so that means that you're going to have even more commercial time to cram in here i went and looked at the number 10 rated i think it was a gray's anatomy
Starting point is 01:08:39 because no dancing with the stars i think is what it was was making something like a hundred and two thousand dollars per commercial break for 32nd commercial break yeah and so let's just say that Disney sells all $36,000 at $100,000, that's, you know, $3,600,000 that they make on that. The total gross once you take that times the six episodes or whatever, somewhere around $20 million, $21 million. That means that the profit or loss for Disney is now only about $7 million when it boils down to it. Per episode, right? No, for the overall grand goal of running this. But now they have people maybe potentially watching more ABC shows that they can then sell more advertising to.
Starting point is 01:09:25 They can come back next quarter and they can say, hey, ABC did really good because of our Ms. Marvel thing and actually made money, which they talked in the quarterlies that how their broadcast stations actually were down a couple of percentage points because nobody was watching their regular television. I think part of the problem is it's a new model of tracking how something does. Does, right? So, like, Mandalorian could shoulder all this. Like, you can cover the cost. Well, I don't know, I don't know for sure, because, again, they don't give us the numbers in any sort of accounting. But that's what I'm saying is the way these numbers are presented by the studios. Like, what you've done is super interesting here. But the way they do it, if they're really bringing down a billion a month, if our $9 thing holds. Or just under that if it's seven. I promise you, they're profitable. I promise. but Disney is profitable at that level.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So they are definitely making a profit but you know across the board because they go and say here's how much our direct-to-consumer, that's all their streaming channels, how much they bring in, you know, at $12 billion and we are only spending $657 million or whatever that is or $6 billion for that. They're making a profit.
Starting point is 01:10:40 That's what I'm saying is they ought to do it from that level to say quit trying to, it's important to track each of your properties and see what's working and what isn't. I understand that. Yeah, that's how the residuals and everything need to be paid out is based on did this make money or not make money. Yeah, I guess so. And I guess if you're going, let's say, we'll use the Ms. Marvel thing, right?
Starting point is 01:11:00 Let's say that thing, because it lost $7 million after, let's say after this commercial run on CBS. Right. We end up at the $7 million loss. I understand them being like, we want to give you, you know, commensurate payouts for profitability. but if we're in the whole. Yes, and that's the whole, that's the whole point, right? That's what, that's what Iger and Zaslov and everyone else and really anybody that's a member of, I think it's Brian Robbins, right?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Isn't he still in charge of Paramount or Universal? He's a Paramount, I think. Yeah. And so, you know, they're the one saying, I'm sorry, we just don't have any money to give when you can clearly go to the profit law statement on the quarterly report and say, you're a six month, you made $10 billion in the last six months. How are you not making money off of this stuff? And then again, this is where the hand waving goes.
Starting point is 01:11:50 But again, if you end up spending only $15 million for each episode of Ms. Marvel, that show is profitable. But if you spent $25 million per episode, then it's not profitable. And I guess the question is, and this is gets into the next thing, is Disney Plus is not, they're not producing Ms. Marvel. There's a production company that they've been given a budget to and they're buying it from Marvel Studios or whoever. Right. Marvel Studios has its own, its own breakdown.
Starting point is 01:12:19 So this is really just a bought experiment I had yesterday afternoon and said in 30 minutes, okay, how would I run through this to justify being Bob Eager and saying, I'm sorry, we can't pay you anybody. And oh, by the way, all the support staff that these supposed actors and writers are hurting,
Starting point is 01:12:35 we lay off, you know, most of them at least once a month, uh, anyway, and then hire them back so that we don't have to pay them in December or something like that. So,
Starting point is 01:12:43 right. Uh, but this kind of really shows where the studio is kind of, to come from and saying we didn't make any money when in reality they're making millions of dollars you know what's wild about it so this is wild to me we haven't even talked about it but they're perpetuity clause on the AI likeness thing yeah that's a big one right how do they do that the very same month that black mirror has an episode about this very thing no kidding how do you do they didn't even watch any of that right yeah like how do you how do you have that kind of
Starting point is 01:13:11 timing where where literally you took the thing the concept of that episode and made it real. I don't get it. So, I mean, that Black Mirror episode is a perfect example, but that's not the first time that this is played out. We saw it play out in South Park, right? Where Scott, next time you download, what game did you download that you're going to talk about in an app slappy? Oh, yeah, this golf game I'm going to talk about, yeah. Yeah, see, I bet if there was a end user agreement, you're just like, bam, scrolling down, I don't care. Just let me get the game and play.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Of course. So what are you signing away? I mean, if you want to go back to comic books, um, It was a very common practice for a long time at both Marvel and DC that once you signed the back of the check, that was your acknowledgement that you were giving up all rights to your creative work. So if you were wanting to come back later, Jack Kirby, and say, hey, you guys are making tons of money off with this Captain America guy. How about you cut old Jack Kirby some of that cheese? And they'd say, oh, no, you signed your check. You gave up all rights to Captain America.
Starting point is 01:14:13 So it's because people aren't reading these contracts. And again, we're at a point where the unions who are negotiating in good faith with the, for the actors and the writers, and really anybody else, UPS is coming up in the next couple of weeks, I think two weeks from now, we'll see a UPS strike for sure. They're just saying, hey, we've read through this fine print, and you're saying that you want to take an extra like Ashley Victoria Robinson and you want to go in when she's just being a background character on this show, scan her face and her body, and then you want to use that for any other. other show and she's only going to get $350 for that. One day's worth of work instead of every time it gets used. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the day rate is. 350, $1,500. I have no
Starting point is 01:14:55 idea. No idea either. You know, instead of using her for six days, now you're using her for one day and hey, look at me. I'm the studio. I've made more money for our shareholders. Yeah, but we've shafted everybody who does the actual. Yeah. So that's why it's great that we have somebody who's actually going through these things and saying, hey, everybody,
Starting point is 01:15:11 you may not be aware of this, but this is what's going on. You know, with this UPS one, coming up my brother talked to me about it a bet he works there um uh it's looking like you know but it's going to happen do you think if you worked at the labor department right now do you pretty much have diarrhea all day do you think you're just because you're about to have a problem you're about to have a nationwide i mean forget about the entertainment business for a minute i think there are other places that are just on the verge man it's going to get weird i'm i'm not really good at looking at this but i would say that from the labor department perspective it is like
Starting point is 01:15:44 let's just watch and see what these companies do because the government shouldn't be involving itself in business. Businesses always want the government to stick, you know, to stick their nose out of or keep their nose out of it. Yeah. Because the last thing I think a lot of unions and I think a lot of government officials don't want is a Ronald Reagan incident where he's like, screw you, air traffic controllers, get the back to work or we're firing every single one of you. Right. Yeah. Like what happened in the 80s. And I think that that's what, you know, we are trying to avoid that. now. Yep. But we are, you know, looking at a real, a real wasteland of reality television coming. Are we all excited for that? We're going to. No, God. I hate reality television. And so, you know, again, this week is Comic-Con. We talked a couple of weeks ago about how there were a few TV shows and
Starting point is 01:16:33 movies that were sticking around. There's none of it now. Yeah. So Comic-Con is going to be all about comics, which I know a lot of people are like, yay, great. Finally, Comic-Con is back to being only about comics. San Diego Comic Con has never been just about comics. Television and movies have always been a part of any kind of comic convention. Especially in the last 15 years. I mean, there's just no getting around it.
Starting point is 01:16:55 It's huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's going to be an interesting show. You see, I guess you probably both heard about it, but the both the Barbie and the Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer, rather, London premieres is when the strike happened and they all immediately left
Starting point is 01:17:11 the red carpet. They just left, yeah. They said, can you imagine killing Murphy's like I'm out I'm going to go get those guns Tommy he says and he leaves he's done courtesy of the pinky blinders and he walked out
Starting point is 01:17:25 I mean if if you are only scheduled to work until you know 1130 today Scott and then your boss is like yeah we're going to need to keep you around here for six more hours you'd be like no sorry I'm done bye
Starting point is 01:17:38 yeah yeah I mean that's what so the last sag after strike which was three years ago during pandemic, that was one of the sticking points was moving away from a going past your normal 12-hour day so that people would not have accidents on the way home
Starting point is 01:17:56 and the fast turnaround times. That was one of the things from the last strike that they got through. So hopefully they can get a lot of this taken care of, but feels like the producers guild is kind of on the wrong side of all of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, we're going to, it's going to get a little uglier before it gets better, but I don't know. That's the other thing is it doesn't feel like we're anywhere close to agreements, right? So some people in the chat are like, you know, should I cancel my streaming services? No, I mean, the Screen Actors Guild and Writers Guild are not asking consumers to do this. But they do have a lot of stuff that you can find on their site on ways to support them. But at this point, they're not asking anyone to cancel any of their subscriptions. Yeah, I don't know that boycotting is going to help. I mean, you may end up doing that as a consumer when things get real bleak after there's a glut of nothing.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Oh, man, I canceled my HBO subscription the day that my, that Zaslov took over. Yeah, and there's still a lot I enjoy on there. There's a lot I enjoy on there. Plus, we get a lot of film sack off HBO, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it. We keep it for a work experience. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:02 But I could see a future where Peacock and Paramount take a dive. I'm not dying to have those. You know, there's, there's a few that I would hang on to, I guess. but it depends on how little or how crappy it gets. Like, I just don't know at this stage. Well, so, Scott, there are so many great television shows and movies that are on these streaming services, Parasite, that people haven't had a chance to watch yet. Yeah, they're not going anywhere either. It'll still be there.
Starting point is 01:19:30 In this vast wasteland of, of crap that's coming up, now's a great time to go in and watch Parasite. That's actually a really good point. There's a, there is a backlog, right? We all have it. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing. The more people that watch those backlog of things, that's more money that's owed to the actors and the writers and the producers and the directors of those shows.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Well, I think we've had as good a look at this as we were ever to expect on a show like this. Again, I'm not an accountant. This is, again, yesterday afternoon, it's just like, let's run the numbers on this and see how this can be profitable or not profitable. And then I came up with that. So it's easy.
Starting point is 01:20:10 to show the Hollywood accounting system in that way. So if there's an accountant out there or a producer out there, and you're like, Stephen, it's totally wrong. Great. Reach out to me, major spoilers on Twitter. You can send me an email Schleiker at Major Spoilers or podcast at Major Spoilers.com, and I will get that. Love to talk with some people who have some more inside knowledge on this,
Starting point is 01:20:28 but I'm going to guess that if you are a producer in the Hollywood system, you've been told to keep your fat mouth shut because we don't want to give money to those ingrades. That's right. Well, thank goodness water's still around, though, right? Oh, man, I am a huge fan of liquid death like you, Scott. Yeah. My favorite right now, or the one that I'm drinking right now, is buried alive, although I like the severed lime. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:48 But it's going to get hot. If you're going to Comic-Con, if you're just outside on a day like today, you need to stay hydrated. I agree, and wear a deodorant, lots of it, okay? Yeah, there you go. Be nice to your fellow stinky people. I'm going to go buy some liquid death right now. What's that voice familiar? Something familiar about the voice.
Starting point is 01:21:07 It's Pee-Herman. Oh, Pee-W-Herman. Herman, that? Yeah. Yeah, it's a direct right from when he's stealing the bike from the nuns, like during the filming of the movie with the nuns. And he hops on the bike and says, You've really inspired me.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I'm going to go start a paper route right now. And he hops on the bike and runs it off. My memory of that movie is not great. I don't know why. Apparently. Yeah, we need to watch it again. It's so damn good. Impaging Mr. Herman, that's all I really remember.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I think Mr. Arbett, you have a telephone call. All right. Are we? At the front desk. The best part of that quote, no one ever does it, is the at the broad desk. It's the front desk. Something about the way it comes out. All right.
Starting point is 01:21:58 We're going to do a quick one of these. It's been a bit. So, man, I don't even know where my thing is for this. Do I have the, I know I have the clip. Where do I put it? There is. Okay. We got it right here.
Starting point is 01:22:08 we go. Yeah, that's right. We played something on our phones. Tell Stephanie. Time to get out of here. Is it Stephanie and who else hates it? Um, um, forget who the other one is that always I think it's just Stephanie, right? It's not rainbow bright. Why am I thinking of her? I don't know why. Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm often wrong. Uh, we're going to talk about some apps that we use this week that we enjoyed. And, uh, the one that I cannot get enough of only lets me play it once a day. Yeah. So you're even restricted. That's right. That's a very good way of putting it. Very restricted. This is a game called coffee golf. And it came out of nowhere for me in terms of knowledge about it. I didn't know about it. Someone in the in our community, uh, turned me on to it. I don't
Starting point is 01:22:57 remember who. Someone says, got to get it. They may have been Tanner. Somebody in there said, you got to play this guy. And then I saw the group was all playing. I was like, why am I not playing this? I love golf. I love video game golf. I hate real golf. And this is the epitome of kind of simplicity meets, gosh, I don't even know how to describe it. It's like just such a perfect way to do this. So basically somebody somewhere said, hey, wordel's fun. We should make a game that's got nothing to do with words, but we're going to basically have the structure of it. Yeah, you share your results and.
Starting point is 01:23:36 yeah you take your scores you share them with each other boy the video this whoever's playing this is really bad that took nine strokes man there might have been me i don't think this is really bad but anyway every day you get a new layout of of uh of courses and the courses aren't super realistic fact the one we're looking at right now is a bunch of floating islands uh there's a lot of trees and sand traps and elevation and stuff you have three um clubs clubs sorry thank you uh one is they they're basically just driver uh way and putter and the wedge shots are obviously for you know when you're in a little bit of a tight situation and you want to kind of go up and drop down and not have a go too far obviously drivers
Starting point is 01:24:17 for the long distance and they take a little finesse about well how far does this go before it's a problem or does it roll off the edge and you have to kind of get used to to all of that but um a little bit of back spin on your wedge that sort of thing yeah putting similar uh you got to figure out you know how much to pull back it's like a little elastic band kind of control system and you have six holes is it i believe per six per day five five or six five i think you're right about five yeah five's right uh some are hard some are easy some are deceptively hard um you know all that the challenge is definitely there and this thing is yet to like show me an ad or do anything like that i don't know how they're getting their money yeah um but when you're
Starting point is 01:25:01 done you copy your score you paste it it it tells uh with a color code which holds took you what how many how many par to get in there or how many uh shots to get in there and you compare it with your friends and i'm surprised how much how how competitive i've been wuj man is the is the guy in our thing that kills everybody he destroys everyone oh really okay is it in the discord i need to maybe need to hop in there yeah there's a group in the i think it's under the core group but it's uh probably it just says coffee golf score or something it's uh the i don't know if you mention this but the key thing is that you can do the holes in any order. So you can look around and say, oh, I can get to this one a lot easier because it
Starting point is 01:25:38 doesn't have trees in front of it. Or this one over here is a little shorter little, I can wedge right up to this one kind of thing. But it is, like, that gives you, that really is where the challenge is. It's like, oh, what order should I do these in? Because you don't want to, like, set yourself to be super far from the last hole. Right. That's perfectly, that's a great point. And not only that, you can strategically go, well, if I choose to go these two first, that will put me in a better position for the flag over there because there's less trees from that angle that I will have to shoot at anyway. So there's a lot of, you can do a lot of, like, thinking ahead to try to do it right.
Starting point is 01:26:20 One of the biggest mistakes I think people make is they don't realize how much the driver bounces. When you use the driver, you're going to get some real distance on it. So you've got to, like, short it a lot. Right? Like the approach part of golf matters a lot of this situation. Which especially when you've got holes that are on hills, you really got to think about, all right, if I use the driver, is it going to bounce in front and then land on the next level of that hill? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:45 And then very careful use of the wedge. It can get a little wild. Like the landing zone is like a little translucent circle. And what that means is your ball really could hit any of that circle. It won't hit right at the center of it. and so you want to be general about your drives careful but also still general about your wedges and then putting is probably the easiest if you're in a good distance from the hole but it's a really fun little strategic thing i love the graphic style of it it's so simple and cute and just like
Starting point is 01:27:19 it works just it works perfectly for this kind of delivery you don't have like a little thing going back and forth that you got to tap it right at the right moment to get it in get in a hole You almost expect like a little Cheeby looking link to come around the corner Yeah, yeah It's that vibe, but kind of old Zelda Link to the past kind of thing
Starting point is 01:27:38 Little thumbs up caddy going Woohoo Yeah, it definitely has that vibe But I'm really quite in love with it And it's fun post those scores every day Wooge Man in our community As a freaking monster I'm usually in the top
Starting point is 01:27:52 Two or three scores per day But he is always beating everybody I think he's even done some streams about how he how what his method is oh really like his techniques and stuff i might have to watch them it's always fun though to be a part of a thing that's like kind of viral and happening like this yeah yeah so having a really good time with it again it's called coffee golf it is available on ios and android and uh is free and um so far a rad little thing that also doesn't expect you to hang around you you you play your your holes and you get out yeah your first day
Starting point is 01:28:22 you get bonus like you get an extra uh set of holes just so it's like oh you really like this while here we're going to give you some extra holes to play yeah plus it's good that's a good way to get tutorialized with it you know yeah that is it'll get you hooked because it's like oh oh now i get it oh this is fun yeah those first those first round you're like i'm just trying to get that pink flag right now and it sucks and i think it deserves credit for being like like frame dot wTF is an amazing fun what is this movie wordle style game uh guess uh guess uh guess uh guess uh guess the dot game is also great for guessing what a video game is. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, I haven't played that yet, but I saw somebody posting their scores from that, and I need to take a look at that. You would really like it. It's really fun. And I've gotten really good at that. That one freaks me out because how good I am at getting it on the first frame. I'm not, I don't do that with the movie one. You mean on, oh, I was going to say, that's the video game one. Yeah, okay. Yeah, the video game one for whatever reason is really working well with me. But as far as the use cases of, hey, wordle's huge. Let's do a version.
Starting point is 01:29:26 of that. This feels like in a way the most unique and creative because they're like, well, what if it was a little mini golf game? Which doesn't, that feels antithetical to word games or picture games or any of that. It's like a different approach to sharing these scores
Starting point is 01:29:43 and having a daily experience. And I really respect it for that. So anyway, it's out there. It's now available called coffee golf. And I assume the name means just, hey, while you're having your coffee in the morning, play this quick golf game. Yeah, cup of coffee. Play a little golf. This will now be added to my daily like do Whirdle, send it to my little crazy neighbor group.
Starting point is 01:30:00 It's a crazy neighbor and a couple other people that are neighbors and friends. And then go on and do my coffee golf and probably post that to Frickin Discord or something. Yeah. I wonder if maybe David liked it. He's probably a golf guy, isn't he? He likes to golf? Yeah, he's not a play phone, play apps on his phone guy, though. Oh, it's just bongs and golf in real life.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I get it. Just bongs and golf. Bongs and golf. All right, Brian, let's hear about yours. I'm excited about yours because I have not heard what you're doing yet. so what do you got it? Yeah, this is kind of cool. So this, when I took Tina to the hospital and I was kind of just sitting there in the ER waiting for her to get checked in, I'm like, I need something new to play. I'd been playing that Solitaire game I recommended a while back, which I still, you know, jump into every once in a while, but needed something else. And I just basically went to the app store and said, all right, what's currently popular? And the first thing that popped up is this Monopoly Go game. And I, you know, we, we, we, we have our opinions. A lot of people in the tadpole have differing opinions on Monopoly. Scott
Starting point is 01:31:00 and I have differing opinions on the game. We both hate it when the game and when any game takes four days to play. And certainly Monopoly can do that. But what if you took the regular game of Monopoly and kind of made it a little bit less irritating for anybody?
Starting point is 01:31:16 And that's what this is. This is the goal of Monopoly Go is not to amass properties and things like that. It's to unlock new boards and the boards aren't your like Las Vegasopoly or Bostonopoly or things like that they're things like Tokyo and space and Western the Old West and stuff like that that's cool yeah and they don't change the properties on the board it's
Starting point is 01:31:46 still Tennessee New York St. James Place St. Charles etc. It changes properties that you buy and upgrade separate from the board. So you've got your board, and then you've got Tokyo, and you've got like six buildings in Tokyo that you unlock and build and then improve as you make money in the game. You're basically rolling, and you put it on auto roll. If you play this and you don't use auto roll, you're crazy. But you basically put it on auto roll.
Starting point is 01:32:18 It rolls you around the board. When you land on a space, you collect some money from that. if you've got friends and it automatically found friends who are playing I'm playing with Cleo I'm playing with Vro Baby in the Tadpool
Starting point is 01:32:31 Horde Curious quite a few people in the tadpool who automatically are playing this too and then it just automatically puts them on your board holding down a space and if you land on that space then you're basically taking money from their bank as well the railroads do a bonus deal
Starting point is 01:32:49 where you get to either go to their set of properties, their Tokyo, their Old West, and take a swing with a wrecking ball to one of their, one of their buildings. And if you hit it, then you get some more money out of their bank, or they might have shields. As you go around the board, you collect shields and you can keep a certain number of those at any given time. It sounds really complicated. It really, really isn't. It's basically like, finish upgrading all your buildings and then you move on to the next board oh this one's old west now i got a conestoga wagon and a old mining thing and a saloon and i'm going to upgrade those three
Starting point is 01:33:33 times because i had enough cash to do that and then just go around the board around the board around the board and then make more money to upgrade those properties which token did you take by the way i was i'm top hat but now i'm cat because i unlocked cat i think i'm going to start top hat because that is my inclination i don't like the boat or the car yeah top hat's awesome yeah top hat's good Yeah, it is such an easy pick-up and play game. Yeah, there are things that tries to make you buy. I think I've put in $1.99 into this game. If you just play it, you unlock dice.
Starting point is 01:34:03 That's your currency in the game, are dice rolls. And you just keep playing it, and you end up if, you know, you do this. Oh, look at that. You just unlocked 50 more rolls. Oh, here's 100 more rolls for you, just for doing this. And for whatever reason, it just kind of, sits off in the background. I let it do its auto play thing. Then it's like, oh, I can knock down
Starting point is 01:34:25 some of Cleo's buildings, which she's really pissed off in me about, I think. Or do a money heist where you flip tiles and try and get three of a certain kind. It's like that old match game thing where you, you know, you've got several different levels and you unlock all the, the first one you unlock all
Starting point is 01:34:43 the squares for is the prize you win. You can do so, so much with this just as free to play. So I encourage you to check it out and have some fun with it. I really like the animation slash. It's a little bit like the one I recommend. It's got this great cheeby kind of style.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Yes, it's a very simple, a simplified monopoly board. And just watching your little dude bounce around the board and some things are raised and lowered and it's kind of cool. It's a blast. Even my little hat. Oh, go ahead. Oh, Graham Cracker says, I've been playing this pretty good game, haven't spent any money and played quite a bit. Oh, nice. This, my little hat is throbbing as it sits waiting for its move.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Ooh. Throbbing hat. Throbbing hat. It's a little bit weird. Yeah, I'll play the hell out of that. That looks fun. Yeah, and A What Not asks, how do you get people as friends in this game? So I've got people in here that, that it automatically bashes their locations and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:35:44 I have not figured out. I've, like, tried to add Cleo as a friend using Messenger, Facebook. Messenger since she's on this Facebook thing as well. And that's not working. So if anyone has an idea on this, maybe let's chat about it in the core, maybe create a core channel for Monopoly Go. If there isn't
Starting point is 01:36:03 one already, maybe there is one already. Oh, you know what? Did I see? Did I create one? Maybe you did. I'm just trying to remember if I created one or not. I would be funny. Thinking about creating one and, you know, in my drunken Hayes. There's something about that sounds familiar because I'm in there every day, but I don't know if I saw it. But
Starting point is 01:36:18 let's see. It does not look like I've created, I've thought about it, but I apparently have not created a Monopoly Go. Oh, you know what? I just asked about it in the core chat. So I'll create a Monopoly Go forum and then we can, if we, people want to be friends in Monopoly Go, we'll figure out a way to do it. I think you probably just have to use phone numbers. Oh, right. Oh, that may, yeah, or they're part of your contacts or some weird. Something like that. Depending on what you sign up. Like, you can sign up with Facebook or iOS's case. You can use an Apple account. There's probably a Google account. on the Android version. So wherever your friends are, I guess, is probably where some of those will be.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Anyway, that sounds great. There you go. Monopoly Go and Coffee Golf. Those are your two big choices today. Yeah. I download Coffee Golf already today, and I am hooked. It's great, right? It's super good.
Starting point is 01:37:09 It's so fun. Share your scores in there because it's nice and competitive in there, I think. Oh, I will. I will, Scott. That is going to do it for today's programming. And if you'd like to join us on Patreon, we wouldn't turn you down. Patreon.com slash TMS. At the top of the show, I mentioned some names.
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Starting point is 01:38:47 So what are we doing? I have it. It's right here. uh which probably no surprise to you on this one uh k t data wrote and said hello sandy and bountiful i'm here to request a little birthday song for someone who is near and due to us all one mr scott johnson scott never stopped being scott and thanks for creating this wonderful community hope you have an amazing birthday and maybe a few good first too signed the dude that's been recording you guys at live events for 11 plus years kt data goodness kt data kevin good lord yeah thank you for
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