The Morning Stream - TMS 2496: Thump That Melon
Episode Date: July 20, 2023Need to take a pith. Don't Tip Like a Bitch. Doctor Roxy Full of Moxy. Bezel Your Fruit. What's the Frequency Amy. Smell the button. The Bourne Supreme. There are words out there I don't use. I rolled... the dice in Shreeveport. Stream pottery, not surgery. Wordle and Sour Dough. Melon Meat. You'd be Mad to watch it on Max. Two-Bite Brownie Books With Amy. How not to be horrible with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on TMS, I need to take a pith.
Don't tip like a bitch.
Dr. Roxy full of moxie.
Bezzle your fruit.
What's the frequency, Amy?
Smell the button.
The Bourne Supreme.
There are words out there I don't use.
I rolled the dice in Shreveport.
Stream pottery, not surgery.
Rortle.
sourdough. Melan meat. You'd be mad to watch it on Max. Two-Bite Brownie Books with Amy. How
Not to be Horrible with Wendy and Moore on this episode of The Morning Stream. A friend of mine
said I should try America online. So I did. I've gotten help with my golf swing, planned my next
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The morning stream.
Fish.
Why the hell do they call you fish?
MSS.
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Thursday, July 20th, 2023.
I'm Scott Johnson.
And that's Brian Abbott.
It is.
It is.
All those things you say are true.
You know, yesterday, your quiz prompted me to go listen to a bunch of Monty Python yesterday.
Yeah, you tell it.
People like you.
What holes on wrist?
I love that line.
It's so good.
And I went...
Frenchy frog or is that...
No, that was the...
I'd like to buy a fish.
You don't know the name of it.
But there's a whole thing where he's trying to buy a certain kind of fish.
And Michael Palin is the storekeep, and he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about.
But it's great because it's the radio version.
add like the store door sound effects and the sound of animals in there and it's just got this
really cool vibe final cut is so good that we uh that we always uh heard on dr demento like that's
that's what that's that's those are the versions right i assume so yeah that's a good point yeah
i think that's the first time i ever heard them was was there but then when that two cd package
came out i was like well i'm buying that i'm getting that right now that's a good deal
still have it somewhere um anyway you guys should seek it out it's on youtube the whole thing it's just
free.
Hey, look at this show.
We have a show and we got things.
I got a question though about, you know, I don't know how often you do the grocery
shopping.
If you do it with Tina, you guys split it up a little bit or how, who goes and who does
what, I don't know.
Tina does 90% of it and sometimes she'll drag me along with her and sometimes she'll just
send me to the store to get a few things.
Sounds like our house.
So that's about what we do.
and something I noticed
I went with Kim shopping
and she had to buy some stuff
she's prepping for this trip
so she's in charge of food of course
and is buying like
making jambalaya
and freaking some kind of chilly thing
with potato bar night
and all these plans
it's all going to be good
but a lot of it she can make now
freeze and then take
you know have it ready to go
very smart wow yeah she's good at that
so she's doing all that
but I noticed something
I always thought it was just a cartoon thing
or kind of a stereotype or whatever
but when I buy a melon
I just look at them and go, that one looks all right, and they'll take it.
Kim thumps him.
Yeah.
She thumps that melon.
Does do most people thump a melon and does, what are you listening for when
you thump a melon?
I could ask her this, but I want to know what you say.
Like if I, you thump a melon, what are you expecting out of that process?
Yeah, like if you don't hear anything when you thump a melon or you just hear like
yourself hitting the rind, then it's a squishy inside melon.
if you hear like a, like a, you know, deep noise when you're thumping it,
then it's a firm, then it's firm inside, and that's what you want.
And how do you know it's too, or not too, not right, unripe?
How do you know it's not ready yet?
Like, what's the sound?
Oh, that I don't know.
I mean, that you can usually tell by the outside, depending on the type of melon it is,
but like an overly pale honeydew or candelope.
yeah you want like you said you want a hollow a hollow sound okay you want you want an icky thump
oh itky thump all right i'm kidding that's what jack white is always listening for he's listening
for an icky thump oh an icky thump well good for him yes um i also thumped uh to find out if my sour
dough loaf is is baked all the way through i thump that too really ones you make or when you
one you pick up the ones you make yeah if you be we don't buy sourdough loaves
And I haven't, I really haven't made sourdough since the end of the lockdowns.
Yeah, do you remember that for a hot minute?
That was a big deal for a while.
Yeah, oh my God.
It was like everybody was doing whirdle and making, doing sourdough bread.
Yeah, that was a hot minute.
So, all right, so what I'm, so and then she says, the other way for a cantaloupe in particular is you got to smell the little button on there.
Smell the, right, the word connected to the tree.
I have no idea what I'd be smelling.
for. Like I just say, oh, that smells
like a cantaloupe. I guess maybe that's it, right?
If it smells bad,
then you know that the inside
has gone bad, maybe? It's gone
too ripe, and then if it smells
not at all, or it smells kind of plain,
it probably isn't done enough, but if it
smells like cantaloupe, you're
good. Yeah. Usually,
usually I just, I just kind of
squeeze it, and I'm
sure this won't get turned into a gift.
But I like just kind of squeeze the
and if it just feels squishy than I avoid it.
I don't know how much Tina does the thumping,
but that's usually my barometer is like.
I feel like I need to watch people,
do more people watching it like a Costco produce aisle
and just see how people treat their melon.
Sure.
Because I kind of, I'll watch him do it.
I wonder how much people at Costco check,
because you like get seven of them at a time,
don't you, like in a little mesh bag?
That's a good point.
I don't even know how they, I don't know how they do melons there.
Maybe they're, maybe they're one at the time for like,
probably get individual melons at Costco.
What I want to do.
I want to do that thing where those guys grow watermelon inside of a mold.
So it's the shape of the, yeah, like the Japanese cube watermelons.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah.
Because it's still watermelon.
It doesn't change the watermelon.
Yeah, it just makes it like then you can just, uh, not chamfer.
What is it when you, um, cut something instead of cutting it in half and then,
carving what you want the meat out of it, so to speak, you basically just cut off the edges
and then just do a large dye, or a large dice, like a ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch.
Yeah.
What is that? That's a chamfer.
But it's something like that.
It's a special knife or just normal?
No, regular chef's knife will do it.
When we did our Surla-Tob knife class, we learned how to do this.
And you do it, what do you do it more with?
You do it more with like grapefruit.
Oh, okay.
Like basically cut the rind off and then you can actually pull the segments out.
And what is that called, though?
There's a term for that.
Yeah, and when people are good at it, it's amazing.
Yeah, they leave so little, I mean, they take off,
they leave all the good stuff that you want inside.
Yeah, I'm big fan.
Big fan of that.
Yeah.
I don't know how to do it.
What is that called?
Oh, well, I'm never going to, never going to remember it.
I want to say, it sounds like chamfer.
Like, it begins with, um, chamfer.
Like, chamfer, like, um, like the edges in a, you know, like, when you're making something
out of 3D, you chamfer the edges to make them rounded.
Right.
You're like, uh, bezzling kind of, but it's not the same.
Yeah, but that's not it.
Yeah.
That isn't it?
Bezzle your fruit.
But I know what you mean.
And I love when that's done right.
Like when someone take like a watermelon wedge, big old.
fat one and just go
shling,
whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, and you
get the perfect lineup.
And you've just got, you know,
you've just, Supreme, that's it, or
Suprem, yes, dubious rascal.
It doesn't sound at all like,
like chamfer.
You're supreme.
That really, the word?
Supremit.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
So if you do it right, it's supremacy.
Is that the deal?
Yes, exactly.
Would you're trimming off just the outside
of the Bourne movie and getting to just
the action bits in the, in the middle.
Got it.
Yeah.
Supreme
The born supreme.
That'd be great.
Yeah,
it's really like...
Whole movie is him cutting up watermelon.
I'd watch that.
Yeah, it's tough because any time you search for
Supreme,
here we go,
how to Suprem an Orange.
There you go.
I'll give you this little...
I'll get a little video doing.
A little link here.
It's actually like photos,
but it really describes the whole process very,
very well.
Oh, yeah, look at that.
Okay, so we have learned, I like when we learn things, and here's some learning.
How to supreme an orange.
Oh, just a regular old orange.
It's not even a little old orange.
You cut off the rind, so you're left with just the inner bits.
And what you're doing is you're also cutting off the, the, not plinth.
What is that stuff, the pulp?
Not pulp.
Not the pulp.
It's the white boy.
I am not going to remember any words today, ladies of John.
but this is it.
You've exhausted my vocabulary today.
This looks hard because my tendency would be to remove too much of the flesh of the fruit, you know?
Like I wouldn't.
That's it.
I had a lot of the letters write, the pith.
That was close.
It's called the piff.
P-I-T-H.
The pith.
There are words out there I don't use.
I just never use.
It's the not pleasant to eat white part of the outside of the orange.
Right.
Right, right.
that's some good uh some decent fiber in there probably i don't know yeah doesn't taste
good though but you're right about it but you don't want that if you're putting that on the on the
side of a lovely plate of uh cedar plank salmon you don't want them to like oh i'm chewing on
the pith of the orange with my cedar plank salmon that sucks they're just a southern gentleman
from uh from uh i don't know where exactly i don't like to
that I may just be a podunk out of
Deluxee, Missouri, but I'm not going to eat no pith on my
orange. There you go. It looks like a skilled thing. I would not do this right.
You know what? Once you do it, it's really easy. And it's my favorite
way now to eat a grapefruit. I, grapefruits are worse as far as the pith being
bitter and way tougher than orange pith.
Really pith of me off.
I need to take a pith.
I need to take a pith.
That's great.
It's my favorite way to eat grapefruit now is like doing the,
basically supreming off the ride and the outside of the pith.
And then you take the knife and you go ju-choo-choo into each little segment and pull them out.
And you've got no, oh, Biloxi Mississippi.
Sorry, Jay, I've said Biloxi Missouri, didn't I?
Yeah, Mississippi.
I've been to the Biloxi Sun, I think it is.
So, shame on me.
Do you ever go to any of those casinos down there in the course?
on the coast in Balexie?
I've been to the one,
I haven't been,
I've been on a river boat,
gambled on a river boat,
but it was in,
it was the river between Texas and,
Arkansas?
And,
Arkansas?
No,
eastern side.
It was the,
oh,
that would be,
uh,
it begins on the Ness.
Jesus.
I'm done.
I'm done today, Scott.
I'm not going to remember any day.
damn thing.
Wow.
The river starts at the Ness?
It's not Susque...
What's that?
Susquehanna River now.
That's not here.
No.
Let's see.
There's a...
River between
Texas and Louisiana.
Yeah.
That would be Sabine River?
Well, I don't know about the name of the river, but it was the, what was the, um,
The city that it was just outside, not Sabine.
Dang it.
Shreveport?
Shreveport.
Thank you. Shreveport.
Oh, wow.
I spent some time in Shreveport.
I was in Tyler, Texas, the home of, like, the Rose capital of the United States.
I was in Tyler, Texas, and drove out to, because I wanted to gamble.
I had nothing to do.
There's nothing doing Tyler, Texas, folks.
So me and the trainer said, let's go to Shreveport.
Very little to do in Shreveport also, except for the gambling.
Yeah.
And Jay is absolutely right.
Sorry, Shreveport is a dump.
It is a major dump.
I went there and thought we were going to be killed in Shreveport.
It was awful up there.
It really is.
And Shreveport, the riverboat, basically has rules that it has to follow to be able to be a casino.
Like you can't just plunk a riverboat in the river and say, okay, it's a casino now.
It has to undock, even if it doesn't go anywhere, at least at the time, it had to undock your
two hours so um it would stay stay in place but it would close its doors undock and then reopen
like a 10 minute process and then reopen like redock and then open its doors again so if you
didn't get there at the right time then you basically be waiting on the on the outside of the
boat trying to get onto the uh onto the river boat even if that boat never left left even that
that boat never never traveled up the river like it just has to it has to prove that it's
it's it's river worthy it has to that's so weird man yeah yeah yeah shreveport sorry to any
shreveportians but that your city well it's a long time since i was there all right so maybe
things have changed in the last 20 years or whatever but when i was there last oh man yeah
yeah it really it's been since 95 no 90 yeah probably 95 96 that's right around what it would
have been for me. Yeah. That's weird.
Wouldn't it be funny if we were in Shreveport the same time?
We didn't know it. It really would have been funny, except the furthest I got into Shreveport
was on the riverboat. Like I didn't, it was, I didn't go, I didn't cross the river,
I don't think. I just got onto the riverboat. Then we played for a little while that we
drove back to Tyler, Texas. I went and found a bunch of, uh, we found some old abandoned
warehouses. Uh, and we thought it was cool. And when you're in your 20s, you don't,
you're not afraid of nothing, right? Everything seems fine. Yeah. Yeah.
so we didn't even think about it we're just in total gang territory um they're probably i don't know
dead drug things in there like i don't even know what was going on in there except it just
it just was so burned out and like graffitied up it fascinated me i had picture somewhere and i thought
it was so cool but now you want me to go in there now freaking f that i'm not going in there
no way life's too short uh i got some bad news for me not for everyone else uh james wrote in
Send a quick email to say, Scott, this is simply his entire email.
Okay, this is a very short email.
Scott, bad news.
Parasite is no longer on Hulu.
Love the show, though, James.
Oh, no.
Did you confirm?
Have you checked?
I haven't actually checked.
I guess I should check.
But let's see.
You know, it's rentable.
I can get it a million ways.
It's just, you know, the easy way is now not there anymore.
Parasite.
Okay, Parasite is, oh, it's on Max now.
Oh, it's moved to Max.
It certainly has.
All right.
Well,
I have Mac,
so it's fine.
There you go.
Yeah.
Watch it on Mac, Scott.
Wouldn't that be funny?
Before it disappears forever.
Before they pull that thing and no one ever gets to do it.
Before this Academy Award winning film, monumental,
groundbreaking first international film to win an Academy Award,
disappears forever.
Yep.
It's coming.
Our time is now.
All right.
Hey,
what if we brought in someone named Amy and talked about books?
What if we did that?
Oh, I like that idea.
How about the one Robinson?
Let's do the Robinson.
Oh,
I'm glad you said that.
A variety of Amy.
She happens to be online right now, so that's a perfect choice.
So let's do that right now.
One of the things that I enjoy also is reading.
Yes, that music signifies the following information.
It's time for read this with Amy.
Amy Robinson, aka Red Fraggle, joins us as she does each week,
all the way from her home in beautiful somewhere Atlanta near there.
Somewhere in Georgia, I forget where you're at.
But we don't want to docks you entirely, so I won't.
Hi, Amy, welcome back to the show.
Hi.
Yeah, Atlanta is fine.
I'm not in the city proper, but, yeah, we'll do.
You're not incoming, Georgia, are you?
No, no, no.
Are you in, how about Athens, where's Athens, Georgia compared to you?
Athens, Athens is about an hour and 20 minutes sort of northeast of here.
More, like, I would say east, northeast.
And, yeah, I grew up in Athens.
really do they have a big statue a big statue of michael stipe saying here's me in the corner or whatever
oh my okay all right and a big statue of fred schneider tell yeah schneider in them time for my michael stipe
story yeah oh gosh do it did you tell them less than 29 minutes because we do have to get to an india in the middle at
some point yeah no yeah i can absolutely tell the story very brief so i have two i have two encounters
with michael stipe is a dick yeah so all right the first story is
you're going to be like, wait, that's not really his fault.
Why are you calling him the day?
But just say, go with me.
All right.
Go on this.
So in Little Five points in Atlanta, there is a shop called the junk man's daughter.
And it's like, it's this great shop for people like me who like retro nerdy kind of off the wall things.
Right.
Like it's got, they got T-shirts and they've got, you know, a lot of the stuff that you give away.
on Guess the Connection, Brian, would be sold at a Jump Man's daughter.
Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Like, it's like that. It's like super eclectic, whatever.
You're saying Junk Man? Junk Man's daughter, right? The Junk Man's daughter. Okay. I thought
I heard Jump Man like Old Mario before he became Mario. No, like Junk Man, like J-U-N-K. Yeah, junkman.
That makes more sense. And so in Athens, they have a sister store that is called the Junk Man's
daughter's brother and so it's the same same idea right and so i'm there and i'm buying a t-shirt
it was actually i really loved this t-shirt when i was in college i don't have it anymore i think i
gave it to my daughter but um it was like a ringer tea and it had like the sprout from you know
the jolly green giant commercials yeah remember him the little sprout the baby green giant yeah i love it
It was just so, it was just so random and funny and cute.
And I just, I loved that shirt.
So anyway, so I'm buying this shirt.
Michael Stipe is there in the store.
And he's got.
Was he in the corner?
No.
He was like freaking front and center.
And like every clerk is, you know, attending to his every need.
That's how I know Scott is Googling Junkman's daughter right now because he didn't hear me make that joke.
No, it's actually sorry.
it was an emergency answer to an emergency text and everything's fine now but yeah we're good i absolutely
got the reference he was you know that was not him in the corner it was him in the spotlight for sure
oh nice so yeah so he had every clerk in the store freaking waiting on him and he was like oh yeah let me
let me see that tie over there and this thing over here and like every seriously like every employee of the
store. And all I want to do is buy my freaking t-shirt. And so, and I was, and he's just like,
you know, bossing them around and whatever. And one girl was just standing there with her
mouth agape. She wasn't even doing anything. She's just like, oh, a famous person in the store.
And I was over it. And so I just was like, excuse me, can you leave the rock icon alone for a
second so I can pay for my shirt, you know, like, I was just not having it that day. And,
you know, so anyway, so I pay for my shirt and I leave. And he just doesn't even, like, he doesn't
apologize to me or anything. And like, I mean, he's, he's very, he's like soaking it all up. And I'm
like, oh, whatever. And so. You know, it'd be great if he'd have said, what's the frequency,
Kenneth, as you passed him to leave the store. That would be great. Right. Right.
I would laugh.
I think that may have been,
I may have been before that album.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
this is a while back ago.
Yeah.
Um, so anyway,
this is like while I was in college and,
and I was waiting tables and I,
I worked at a place that was in downtown Athens,
not there anymore.
It was called the East West Bistro.
It was a great place.
But he used to come in intentionally after we closed.
And just,
you know,
so that he could freaking have the whole place and whatever.
And just,
but he would just show up unannounced and expect us to wait on him.
So the best was when we hired a hostess who like she was an exchange student from overseas.
She had no freaking clue who he was.
She didn't let him in.
Nice.
Oh, I love it.
And we're all of us in the back were like, you know,
because at that point I was,
I was working not really in the kitchen,
but I was working Expo, which any of you've ever worked in a kitchen,
you know, like, that's the person, like, in between the wait staff and the kitchen.
So all of us in the kitchen are just, like, watching the front door and we're like,
oh, crap, Michael Stipe is here.
We're going to be here for another freaking two hours, you know.
And then we see her come up, and she's like not letting him in.
And we're going, she's not going to let him in.
She's not going to let him in.
And then she didn't.
It was great.
She didn't let Michael Stipe in.
You know what?
Screw him, though.
I don't, you know, like anybody of status, if you come when things are closed, you should
be like the rest of us and be turned away.
Exactly.
Yes.
Not a big deal.
I really like R.E.M., and I will listen to them any time.
But, you know, Michael Stipe, remember that whole controversy because he had naked pictures
floating around and that was a whole thing?
Like, he had a weird moment.
And now I'm noticing in the chat, a whole lot of people who I would consider like, I don't
know, millennials, late, you know, early Z generation people, they don't even know who we're
talking about.
They're like, who's Michael Stipe?
Yeah.
I know, it's surprising.
I'm not surprised.
The lead singer of R.E.M.,
which is a band out of Athens, Georgia.
Claire, yeah.
Yeah.
Claire doesn't know.
If you want to, you know, you want to listen to R.M., listen to their older
stuff and stop before you get to, what was it up, I think, was a...
Which one had shiny, happy people on it?
Was that green?
Is that green?
Green was okay, but that song killed.
Or out of time? Maybe it's out of time.
That song murdered me.
I got so sick of it.
Oh, really?
Of shiny happy people, I mean.
But, uh, but yeah.
I like their early stuff so good.
Yeah, I mean, if you, I mean, automatic for the people, monster.
And then, yeah, I would stop.
Let's see, what was on New Adventure?
Ebo the letter.
Okay.
Yeah, I would stop at New Adventures and High Five.
I'd stop at 1996.
And that's a good zone to be, end in, yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I just pick and choose.
I'm like, oh, I like that song.
I love, I love Finest Work song.
It's great.
I love, I love Radio Free Europe.
I love a lot of stuff from, like, documents.
Oh, radio free.
Europe is so good. Don't go back to Rockville. Pretty persuasion. Yeah, when they were a college band,
like that's where it was at, they were unbelievably good. Yeah. Well, and that's what irks me is I'm
like, okay, like, I get it. You're big famous guy. But you're also like, we are the people who
created you. Like, you know, like you're supposed to be like a regular person to us. You're not
Just to come acting like you're a big deal when you're in your hometown, bro.
Like, come on.
And especially, like, it would be okay for him to come in after hours.
But, like, give us a heads up.
And, like, also, don't tip like a bitch.
Like.
So people are talking about, well, I know the band.
I just don't know every member of the band.
It's like, well, but you know Bono, right?
Yeah.
You've heard of Bono.
Sure.
Michael Stipe at the time.
in the 90s was as
notable outside of
REM as Bono was notable outside
of a view too. Yeah, exactly.
And it wasn't because solo albums
or anything. It was because he was a
prominent front man. Yeah.
Yeah, he's one of those guys. And man, the fact
that Claire doesn't know this poster child
of vegan eating.
Oh, yeah. That guy. That was one of the good, really good things
he actually did was he opened
a couple of vegan
restaurants in Athens. And this was
like before it was, you know, it was a, it was trendy to be vegan, you know, I think he just called
them vegetarian restaurants, but yeah. Yeah. When he gave, if he gave you a coupon, he called it a
stipend. That's pretty cool. And then also, he made all his own vegan cheese in his armpit. That's,
that's a rumor I heard. True, yeah. Yeah. I think of Michael Stipe and, and Mike Mills as sort of like
the steves of apple. Right? Like, like Mike Mills is kind of like, like, Mike Mills is kind of like,
the was right like he's the guy who's just like i just want to play music i just want to write music i'm
not you know whatever and then freaking michael stipe is out there going what
yeah no you're right mills was awesome and he would always you'd only ever hear him do the little
you know you hear him go shiny happy and he'd hear him in the background going shiny happy
yeah and it was like i see you buddy i know what you're doing back there you're a smart guy i can tell
but they don't get along anymore i don't think of this outfit
Yeah, I think they're all grumpy now.
Anyway, so...
Those are my Michael Stipe encounter stories for you.
Nicely done.
Well, thank you native Athens girl, Amy, for that story.
Hey, why don't you now...
I should apologize to my husband who apparently I interrupted his meeting.
He was not on mute when I suddenly started yelling over there.
And his boss was like, yeah, his boss was like, do you need to go take care of something?
He's like, sounds like your wife is very angry.
We'll reconvene at a later time
There you go
Well speaking of time
Let's do this thing about books
I have a clip from you
But no idea what it is
So you're going to have this little setup here
Yeah sure
So this is a clip from a collection
Of short stories
That is available now
And it's actually available on Amazon
For free if you have a crime
Oh I like for it.
Nice
Yeah
Big fan of free. Free's great
So yeah
I totally recommend going and checking
it out and yeah you can go ahead and just play the clip all right here we go interviewer it must feel
a little strange to spend all this time preparing for something that you aren't actually going to do
roy court except that i am when the package unfolds the roy who comes out of the assembler is going
to remember having this exact conversation with you it's just that he's going to be on some other
planet trying to figure out how to restart the human race and i'm going to be here worrying about my
taxes laughs
viewer. I can't imagine, knowing there's some other me out there. Roy. It's not really going to be
like that, though. We've located tens of thousands of exoplanets that look promising for colonization,
but the closest really good candidates are 15, 20 light years out. We call it slow light for a reason.
The beams we're transmitting aren't quite as speedy as the normal stuff. That's four, maybe five
decades before the first unfold could set up a transmitter and send us a hello. We're all mortal here.
Those other Roy's are going to be doing what they do long after I'm gone.
This reminds me of old man's war or something.
I love this kind of stuff.
Boy, the narrator, the style of writing would be really distracting with the, I mean, I know,
I understand it's kind of written like a screenplay, but it would be really distracting to hear the person's name every time they say a sentence.
Well, that's really their little short snippets, just to kind of indicate, like,
hey, you're getting a, you're getting introduced to a new person.
Oh, okay.
And so, like, the interviewer does their thing.
And then right after that, he gets injected with anesthesia.
And then the next thing we know, he's waking up, you know, light years away.
And then so, yeah, the rest of it is written like a regular narrative.
Cool.
Okay.
I love this concept.
Then I'm back on board.
You've got me back on board.
I love this concept.
So, no, old man's war is, obviously, it's a different.
idea the idea is that when people get really old they instead of dying or when they die
their consciousness is put into a new body and that new body goes off to war to fight in space
is kind of a very basic way of talking about old man's war which is a book i love but it but
immediately this reminding me of that this idea that you could take your yourself that is yourself
now and either duplicate it or send it somewhere else to do a whole other thing millions of light years
away. That whole thing is fascinating to me. That mix of that mix of time and like how far away
it is, how long away it takes to do it. It's not unlike what you and I were just reading in the
silo books about how time can pass. I love that stuff. So much fun to play with. Well, you're right in
the silo series. Not that I want to keep talking about that. I mean, I do. But like, you know,
but, you know, Chuck is at the same point in the books that you are right now. And so I'm just like,
you guys are at such a cool but hard point of those books.
It's a rough moment, but it's, and it's funny.
I was telling her offline that I don't, I've read all these before, but it's been a bit.
It's been like years and years.
And I've forgotten so much stuff that it feels in a lot of ways like I'm reading it anew again.
And the excitement of the show probably helps with that a little bit.
But also my brain is like, how are they going to do this in the show?
Are they going to try that?
Are they going to even mess with this character?
Like you have all these questions.
but those themes I love,
and this sounds like a short story
with themes I would really get into.
I guess we haven't said the name of this book yet
or this collection.
Yes, no, we haven't.
Shit out of luck.com.
Yeah.
So this is called the far reaches stories
to take you out of this world.
And it's a collection of Amazon original short stories
that were written by certain prolific sci-fi authors.
So you've got James S.A. Corey,
who wrote the piece
that we just heard a clip from
that was called
how it's how it unfolds
and Veronica Roth
Rebecca Roanhorse
Anne Lecky
Neddy Okorafor
you know
Africans are so cool
they're so cool
they're so cool I love them
two ends in the netty part
it's crazy
yeah
yeah
I have one of my
one of my friends
a short store
oh go ahead I'm sorry
yeah oh I'm sorry
yeah no I was just going to
wax poetic more
about African names.
Please do.
Then I'll ask you a question after that.
Yeah, I had a friend who her surname like begins, actually have a friend.
She's one of my best friends still.
But her last name ends with like M and Z.
Like it like or rather it begins with that.
I don't want to like say her whole name on here.
But it, but it's like how do you, you know, MZ and then the rest of her name.
So it's like, wow.
Like how do you say that?
You know, do you just skip the M?
Like, but, you know, or do you make, do you make a big thing of it and go, you know, like, oh, it's like, it's just so cool. I love, I love their names. Anyway, and then John Scalzi also wrote, wrote a piece for this. Oh, old man's war himself. He's the guy was just talking about. There we go. I know. That's why I thought it was funny that you mentioned that because I was like, oh, that's cool. It's not the story that John Scalzy wrote, but it's still, you know, on point. I got to read this. And yeah, they're very, it's a very quick.
A very quick thing.
You can get them either on Amazon to your Kindle or you can listen to them on
Audible.
And like I said, you know, they're free if you've got Prime.
And yeah, it's great.
It's like I say, they're quick little, quick little two-byte brownies of sci-fi stories.
It even tells you here on the page they've got, they have a whole big like splash page for this, for this thing for the original.
and they tell you this one's about a 53 minute read 70 minute read
49 minute read these are all like hour to hour and a half each and uh perfect yeah yeah
perfect for just like taking in some quick sci-fi I love this sort of stuff so I
am absolutely going to grab this today yeah that's great that's great because you can
just like oh I need to like I haven't had a confession I haven't completely read all of
them but you know I've read a you know a handful of them and I was like oh okay I've got
time, I can squeeze one more in before TMS this morning. Oh, I can't do that one. Okay, yeah,
this one's 53 minutes. I can do that. Oh, that's really a good, good amount of time.
All right. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Well, I will definitely check it out. This is available,
like we said, on Amazon. It's one of the originals. You can find it just by searching for the far reaches.
And I found it immediately as soon as I googled it. And it's free. And available on Kindle Unlimited
as well, if you're just, if you're spent a lot of, I subscribe to that because there's a lot of
stuff in there and uh this is just there just popped up so good stuff uh amy it's always a pleasure
to have you on your uh sometime between when the show finishes editing and done and before brian does
coverville you'll be doing another clay throwing pottery good time over on your youtube channel yes come
after after tms come make a mess that's right that's gonna be my any any hints on what you're
making are you making like a like another like a like a bowl
or some sort of a I loved your Bjar gifting video that was so cute thank you wasn't it I mean
seriously like I put that actually in the do-gooders chat on discord because it was like you know
what if anybody is like oh you know I know I should do good stuff but I just don't have the
energy man that gave me so much energy to see her reaction to that it was I was like man I mean
not that I didn't I enjoyed the whole process of making that piece so like it gave
me so much joy, just even the journey
of it, but then to watch
it get to its forever home and
like make her so happy,
that just gives me life.
So yeah, so come watch me, make a mess.
You ask me, what am I going to be making today?
Mugs.
Oh, I like mugs.
So, yep, Claire, I'm going to be pulling some more handles.
Oh, handle pulling.
What about a leg check?
No, no leg checks.
You know, I'll show you my overalls,
but that's about it.
That'll work.
Yeah.
So they get all dirty.
So it's all nice and dirty.
But yeah.
So I'll be pulling handles and throwing mugs today.
Maybe a little trimming action will be happening.
So that'll be fun.
And also, one other thing I want to mention, we still have spots for the Southeast meetup.
We have one private room left.
So if anybody was like on the fence, like, I don't want to share a room with anybody.
Correct. Exactly. If anybody is feeling like, you know, I want to go, but I'm not really comfortable, share in a room with, especially folks I haven't, you know, necessarily actually met. I only know them two dimensionally. Then come on. We got a place for you. And then we also have one other spot in a shared room. So, yeah, come, come. Have fun with us. We've got two Bryans. Two Brian. That's right. If nothing else, you did to see what Dunaway and I look like first thing in the morning before we have our makeup on.
Oh, my gosh.
I've never even seen that in the same.
I guess there were nerdtaculars where you guys are both there, but I never saw the morning routines.
I never got to see those.
Yeah.
No, you see us when we're fresh and ready coming down from our rooms at Snowbird.
And no.
Yeah.
After his four-hour regime, a regiment is the word I was looking for.
I'm imagining hair is going to play a part in this.
And thus, Dunaway, is going to have a more dramatic morning reveal than you will.
Yeah, won't change anything for me.
I'm afraid.
Dunaway wears a lot of hats,
so you'll probably not see much of it, I'm afraid.
But good luck with that.
Well, that's awesome.
Amy, it's always good to talk to you.
You're Red Fraggle 3 everywhere, everyone,
including that YouTube channel.
Go check that out.
We'll see you soon.
All right.
Time for some quick news.
Good morning, good morning, everybody.
In the news this morning, good morning.
Hey, it's some news, and it's brought to you by.
brought to you by Coverville today, celebrating the music of Joan Osborne and Rufus Wainwright.
You probably all know Rufus Wainwright for his cover of Hallelujah, which is one of the best, if not the best cover of that song out there.
Joan Osborne famously did the song One of Us.
What if God was one of us?
But she's done a lot of stuff.
A lot of covers and songs covered of hers that are really, really good.
Hear them both today.
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Just a slob like one of us, she said.
Just a slob like one of us. I've seen her twice in concert. She's really, really good.
You know, it's one of those people that's easy to describe a single song to her, but she has a pretty good.
She really does. That song St. Teresa, I think, in my opinion, is head and shoulders above one of us.
I think that's probably, you know, like one of the 50 greatest songs of the 90s.
that's like do you have a fast car lady can't they give her name uh Tracy
Tracy Chapman it's like everyone thinks of that song but Tracy
everyone thinks of fast car but amazing catalogs she has such good music yeah let's get to
this story you know Ohio plastic surgeon who live streamed patients operations on
TikTok she was a relatively popular TikTok plastic surgeon but didn't get
permission to live stream the work she was doing on people
has had her state medical license revoked permanently as a result.
Yeah, probably breaking some sort of HIPAA violation, right?
Yeah.
I feel like you should have known this.
I don't know why you didn't know this.
Very weird.
An Ohio plastic surgeon who'd live streamed some patients operations on TikTok had three patients report complications after surgery,
had her state medical license revoked permanently Wednesday, according to the medical board.
Dr. Catherine Roxanne, Graw, rather, also known on social media as Dr. Roxy.
Dr. Roxy.
And she's just pulling out from middle name being Roxanne.
Like, she's Dr. Catherine Grave, but her middle name is Roxanne.
So it's like, I'm going to milk that middle name for as much as it's worth.
Oh, yeah.
She milked it.
But it's less about her doing the stuff on TikTok, although I'm sure that's a factor,
but more about the complications that her patients.
Well, their claim is the complications.
were as a result of her distraction by doing that, yeah.
So it's all sort of tied together.
But it says here,
no longer you'll be able to practice medicine in the state of Ohio.
That's according to Jericho Stewart spokesman for the state medical board in Ohio.
In addition to revoking her license,
the board voted to fine her $4,500.
It's not that much for her problem.
No, no.
It's a drop in the bucket for a surgeon.
Geez.
The article says they sought comment from her attorney,
but they didn't get anything.
The board has summarily suspended her medical license in November after twice reprimanding her,
so she'd already had some heat on this.
But she continued, quote, to practice,
continued practice presents a danger of immediate and serious harm to the public.
Let's see.
She was in a suburb of Columbus called Powell.
No, sorry, in the Columbus suburb of Powell.
Addressed, not that that matters, addressed the panel before the board members voted on the hearing Wednesday.
she said she thought about the board's criticism over the last year and saw how she had quote fallen below the board's ideal in many ways well i guess that's one way of apologizing
yeah right there's one way of doing it
let's go to southern southern indiana now you may have famously seen a commercial done by those um uh retin link guys
oh retin link yeah the good good morning the good morning guys
They used to be when they, back in the day, their big thing claim to fame was they would go around to local businesses around the country and make their commercials for them.
So they were legit commercials, but they were made by them.
Accidermis, the Red House.
The Red House.
All that stuff, right?
So this one.
Got scooters or what is it?
Got a DUI.
Oh, yeah, that was them too.
That's right.
Yeah.
It has a lot of history on this show.
Well, the one that you all remember maybe most is this one.
If I can turn this up here.
Hold on.
Okay
There's a cry across the heartland
A yearning for the days gone by
And in little old cord and Indiana
They're happy and they'll tell you why
They got butt drugs
They love butt drugs
So it's this butt drugs place
It was kind of an institution
They're closing down after 71 years
Oh no
Oh that's a bummer
So it was named after the owner was
butt. Yeah, his name was B-O-T-C-B-A-B-T-A-But. And they notified...
This is the first time I've heard this one ever, and I love it already. Oh, this one's great.
But-drug, and then you've got to hear these ladies if you haven't heard this. Hold on.
Bull-b-bub-But-drugs.
Okay, there comes. They're going to start talking about.
What I love, butt drugs.
I recommend butt drugs for everybody.
I can always count on butt drugs.
When I think drugs, I think butt drugs.
For all my health needs, I turn to butt drugs.
that is it is such the rent and link style to have the quote unquote customer one-liners that you know they wrote for them and said all right i want you to say when i think drugs i think butt drugs yeah yeah it's basically you know it's absolutely not not their words but rent and link like okay how about now how about now this one says uh yeah it's so good it's by the way 13 years ago they made that that was a long time ago wow uh almost
as old as this show. But anyway, butt drugs, done. They're out.
Yeah. It says the decision did not come lightly, says the butt drugs owners. They say,
we are, we have been serving our beloved community for 70 years, wrote Katie Butt Beckhort.
Aw. Yeah. She's. See, now that would be, that would almost be a thing to do. Like, do a
nationwide road trip and hit the Red House, that taxidermy guy, butt drugs, the scooters place,
And just like, take your picture in front of each place.
Oh, hell, yeah.
You know, and hell yeah.
Yeah, they're, they were doing it service.
Now they're just talk show people, you know, they're just talking.
Now they're doing a great YouTube channel that I've watched three times and thought it was funny each time, but I didn't, I completely totally forgot to keep watching.
My son, Nick is a gigantic Redden Link fan.
That's like his daily thing.
A bountiful morning? Is that what it is?
Good bountiful morning?
Good bountiful morning?
That sounds right.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah. If you guys haven't seen it, check it out. There's also the Retton Link YouTube channel, which is mostly this old stuff. This one has 2.2 million views. Not bad. That's it. Good mythical morning. There you go. All right. Let's see. That's about it, I think. Yeah, that's it for today. We'll take a break now. We'll take our temporary leave. When we come back, Wendy will be here. We've got an email that we're going to deal with. And that'll all come up after this. But we have to play a song. So Brian,
played the damn thing. What do we got?
Okay. How about the Intemperate Sons?
Boy, there's a band name for you.
A brand new
song from the Intemperate Sons. Their latest single is
called Faceless Man. Their new album is called
Game of Keepaway, and it's
going to be released this fall, thanks
to the Framework Label, not Framework, but Frame Slash Work Label,
which is great.
This is great, and kind of keeping
with the rock stuff that I've been
playing for the most part all week. I think
we had one little indie, indie track in here, but the, the members of the band have been
with other bands in Dallas, such as Gun Hill, Natural Born Thrillers, and Agents
of Solace, as well as opening for Lynch Mob, Joe Lynn Turner, and Spunge.
Here are The Intemperate Sons with Faceless Man.
The world has grown so cold
It's fine to disbursed and a crowd to be bold
These same old streets are turning grey
The same old I see in every day
Ooh
Who
Just an excuse to work with my hands
These same old fingers are breaking down
The same old cycles are circling round
Ooh
Whizeless men
Standing up straight
waiting to fade away
I often feel out of place
Maybe it's them or maybe it's my face
The same old people are passing by
The same old lips are telling lies
My thoughts
My thoughts are not so kind
It's hard to fight sometimes
The same old words
In and out they go
The same old eyes
And the drowning loads
faceless man standing up straight
faceless man
waiting to fade away
faceless man
what do you have to say
baseless man
It's just another day
It's just another day
Faceless man, do you feel alright?
Faceless man, why even try to fight?
Faceless man, do you even feel alive?
Faceless man can't even make it fine.
today on the after school special jack melon gets tired of being called a square and turns to a crowd
that shows him how to be cool purple things taste special
to put this on my dance card. What song was that so I can write that band? Put that on. A faceless man
by The Intemperate Sons from their upcoming album. This is kind of the lead-off single. The upcoming
album, Game of Keepaway. Very creative band names out there. For sure, right? Yeah. Yeah, the
Intemperate Sons. It's a great name. I don't know what it even means, but I like it, you know.
By the way, I know that probably wasn't Bluey that you played there, but I finally watched my first
thing of Bluey.
Oh, yeah.
Thanks to Jeremy and my D&D group.
And it was cute.
I really enjoyed it.
I'll watch more Bluey now.
You should watch more Bluey.
And you'll start to feel a kinsmanship with Bandit, the father.
Because Bandit is us.
Bandit basically is, he's a good dad, but he's fallible.
Right.
He does things for Bluey and muffin.
Like, this was the episode I watched, had Muffin coming over for a sleepover.
Oh, a neighbor kid, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that kid's all hyper and hilarious.
I like, uh, there's a new one called onesie.
I can't, I'm admitting this is a grown ass man.
That episode made me tear up.
Really?
Okay.
All right.
There are episodes like that.
There's a few of them.
There's the one where,
where bingo is getting old enough where she can sleep by herself and not
have to share a room with, uh, with, with, uh, with bluey.
And the way that this, this little dog dreams,
is one of the most affecting emotional, resonant things I've ever seen.
So you really should keep going just to kind of get the rhythm and the taste of the whole thing.
And I think you'll come out on the other side thinking this is one of the coolest things ever,
especially made for kids, but just in general.
It's just the sweetest, nicest thing.
Okay, I'm in.
Yeah, that's awesome.
All right.
Well, what do we have now?
Oh, I know what we have.
I'll explain the situation to Wendy.
Don't worry.
That's right.
My sister, Wendy, a practicing therapist who,
comes on the show and slubs it with us on Thursdays,
answers your hard questions about life and personality
and dealing with hard issues.
Wendy, it's good to have you back.
How are you?
I'm good.
Were you just talking about Bluey?
We were, yes.
We were, yeah.
Do you have something to add about Bluey?
Yeah.
I've only seen the first episode,
and I flippin' love the dad.
Is that...
Bandit's amazing.
Bandit and Chili are the best parents on TV.
They're just the best parent.
And I don't mean faking best.
They're not unreasonably or unrealistically great parents.
They have problems.
Like they'll be tired and dead on their feet laying on the couch and one of the kids can't sleep and it comes and bugs them.
The whole episode about that.
And you can tell they're both like, oh my gosh, why won't you sleep?
Like there's this, there's a realistic edge to the entire affair that I love.
Yeah.
It's so good.
You all should keep going.
I realize none of us have kids at this age range.
I only got exposed to it because Van's little and he's obsessed with it.
But man, bluey.
That's sweet.
It's really sweet.
And speaking of Sweet, the complete opposite of Sweet, I finally did watch.
We finally got through all of the bear, season two, Wendy, and I, of course, I know exactly what episode you were referring to.
Throw the damn fork.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last night, my son's like, do you guys know that I stayed up for an extra hour just thinking about that episode?
I was like, oh, my gosh, sorry.
Who, Abe said that?
That's funny.
Abe did. Yeah, he was like, yeah, thanks for that psychological guide. Yeah, it's great.
That's great. Yeah, so my suggestion is watch the very intense, the bear, and then follow it up with a nice blueie, yeah, and everything will be okay.
Oh, absolutely watch Bluey. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah. Well, it's good to have you here, and I guess we're only, what, a week away from seeing you in person, right? I know. Is that a week? Is that a really a week? Hold on. We leave Saturday, so we're on our way. Oh, so you're leaving this Saturday. We leave.
Thursday.
Yeah, I guess we...
Road trip.
I won't see it until we see you.
Well, that'll be fun.
I'm excited.
I'm bringing my new game.
You guys are all going to help me play that.
It'll be fun.
All kinds of fun stuff.
Kim's already making food.
You should see our freezer is full of food.
Oh, that's...
It's going to be great.
Yeah, very excited.
Anyway, let's get to today's thing.
It's an email, and I'm going to read it here.
We've actually had this for a couple of weeks, but no time like the present.
So let's go ahead and read it.
Scott and Wendy, I have...
I have heard Wendy talk about mental health and aid for a few times.
I am a transgender woman and have noticed in the trans community there are often friends experiencing mental health crises.
They often are scared and afraid to talk to people around them in their life and turn to the online communities for help.
As peers, we try our best to help, but we are often in the best place ourselves and don't have the tools to help.
I was thinking that this mental health first aid training would be a huge help.
I'm a member of two specific communities that I think could really benefit people.
One is an all trans women and used to be LDS, so former LDS or former Mormon people.
The other is transgender people who are parents.
Both groups have a lot of specific mental health challenges and struggles with people,
especially family not being accepting.
I was wondering if you had any connections to find instructors who would be able to help provide a virtual training for
these groups or if you had any other resources that you could use for our friends and
community members that are struggling. Thank you, J.L. Well, J.L. I think you probably came to the right
place. Now bet Wendy has ideas. So Wendy, where do you want to go with this? Yeah. I think,
you know, this is a tricky question because it's more, it's bigger than that. So we're going to
take it big and then we'll get small to what they're looking at specifically or what they're
looking for, but just this idea of how do I get good help and know if it's good help, right?
And so I think of like from a newness perspective, like the trans community specifically
sort of having a lot of things happen in the last five, ten years that other groups,
you know, there's a massive change that has occurred.
and maybe just generally more people aware or more people becoming allies, more people
coming out, all sorts of different variations on that.
And then simultaneously with all of that exposure and acceptance and sort of even from
the professional psychological community and medical communities of sort of like
what is best for kids who feel the need to transition, what does that look like?
like, you know, a lot of very serious people and a lot of researchers looking at these things,
but it still has some newness to it, even though the concept's not new, but the acceptance
of it is pretty darn new, right? And so a lot of things in flux, and so you don't have this
just like, hey, here is the solid thing we do, and this is where to get all your support and
resources are from a professional standpoint, which is where the internet often comes in anyway,
It comes in early and it comes in strong and it comes in in however it comes in. So often that is just that support. Like I know how you feel. I've been there. How can I be there for you, et cetera, that type of thing. But I like what JL is is pointing to, which is if I'm not doing well, I mean, I can offer support, but I have my own struggles. I'm still navigating, you know, every, feels like every other minute a new legislative.
later somewhere is like, well, let's ban everything. Let's make it 10 times scarier for this
person to live their life. Let's swap off some more rights for these people. And so all the
progress feels amazing on one hand. And then really it's very vulnerable and very scary on the other,
right? And to just read in the news that your particular subgroup is going to lose civil
rights is like terrifying, right? Like they're like, all right, all right, all the
dudes who are bald are now losing their right to vote right i mean i'm not saying the world
would be a better place if that were true might be just joking i mean like Brian you're never
voting again you guys read about yourself your demographic in some form in the news and it was
about not getting to be a full participating citizen yeah no it happens probably never
white dudes yeah but sorry yes this white dudes uh really yeah but just
Just imagine it for a second. Like, it's really kind of terrifying to think about. So you have
folks in this situation where they are trying to navigate their relationships that maybe have
really changed. It's a major disruption in life to, depending on your support system, right? And can be,
and can be very psychologically difficult and draining. At the same time, for a lot of folks I've worked
with they finally feel like themselves and sometimes that is this incredible like balancing energy
that they get from just being honest and open and you know but it's still incredibly vulnerable so
my heart goes out to anyone in these situations because it is so difficult to navigate and yet all
that sort of research on what to do and how to help can feel pretty new and then we again if your
main source of support is online friendships and, you know, finding like-minded people to help you
out. They also may not be able to do that. So I'm going to speak from just a professional
perspective. Sure. Real quick, let me say, I wanted to say this real quick before I forget.
Yeah. You're right about like it's a scary time, right? Because all these obstacles get thrown up
by people or whatever in response to it. But it's, I think it's important to remember, at least it's
important for me maybe to remember that part of the reason the resistance is so strong
right now, or at least so public right now, is because there have been massive inroads
and the ability for somebody to finally be who they want to be and live their life is more
open than ever. And it's easy to get bogged down in the resistance, but really it's a great
sign. Like back in the, you know, I don't know, me growing up in the 80s, I'm
There were kids I knew growing up who absolutely were either transgender or would be or otherwise just felt like they couldn't say a word.
They couldn't say a peep because you couldn't come out as anything back then without all kinds of heat and trouble.
And you'd have to move to a very specific community to hide away from everybody else.
Like it was a very, very different time.
Now it feels like the resistance seems like really strong or like out there and everything.
but it also seems like it's in response to it being in a weird way better than any other time
or more open than it's ever been.
At least it seems that way to me, you know, and I don't have the perspective of a transgender person
or anybody dealing with something that, you know, society has deemed, quote, unquote,
inappropriate or whatever.
So I don't have that perspective, obviously.
But I'm glad that they can at least have the fight and not have to hide 100% away.
from it's right being out and and having it visible draws more um draws more uh scrutiny not scrutiny
but uh um marginalization and poor treatment but it also allows them to to fight it uh which they
couldn't do when it right and they have actual allies now people who are on the side of be who you
want to be and not part of the group trying to hold them down i again i'm not trying to say it's all
whistles and birdies and happiness right now for all these people. I'm just saying, like,
it feels like there is a, there is a, we're at a good point for more progress, maybe. Yeah.
I don't know. Anyway, that's just a hot take. And that can be, I mean, we could probably find
any social change and document something similar, right? Backlash is, the backlash to the
backlash. Like it is always, uh, it's, it's within us. And there is,
sort of probably never been any social change as quick moving as gay rights and LGBTQ stuff
that I mean we know that there's civil rights took away longer still isn't complete um even just
thinking about marriage you know someone black and white getting married like how long that took
to be legal you could take women's rights I mean everything takes time and so many so many people
working so hard. And the same is true for LGBTQ folks, but there is a swiftness to this. And I think
the internet is a piece of that, right? I also have this theory. Theory is that with at least race
relations, you may have just only been around people in your own race. And so it took folks
longer to have exposure to one another, whereas I think, you know, your kids get.
that's a much more direct experience
and is going to shift things in a family, right?
And so some of those dynamics are fast acting
and any time any social change is fast
or any, you know, you're going to have maybe
certain responses and backlash that's different.
And here's what's tricky.
And this is maybe for folks who are having feelings of like,
oh, I just don't want to hear about it.
Or I just don't want, like, can't we just get along
and, you know, whatever, those old adageageage,
adages always are when you're in the privileged group, right? Because when you're the
privileged group, you just want the normalcy of what-eves and live in the privilege. But, you know,
we're really truly grappling with it and understanding it and reading good information can
be really helpful for those folks. But this question is more specifically to how do I help
with the mental health challenges that are happening for folks as I'm trying to
support them. And what we've sort of found overall is that people in a similar situation, just like
in AA meetings or, you know, other types of interventions is that, you know, you don't, like a group
of people meeting treatment for OCD, you're not going to mix and match that with people with
different disorders. It really helps to have that shared experience and that shared base and then
having good help and good treatment for that. And so here's the thing. You,
Like, say, for example, this person wants to support someone and they're having a rough time, you know, to have maybe a couple things, first of all, their own help, right?
Their own support, their own needs being met is going to be really important.
That's the whole, you know, oxygen mask situation.
And maybe not taking off, biting more than you can chew.
I think the want or desire to help somebody or to just help get them out of the pain you remember being in because you're further along.
that road, you might be overextending, which is depleting your ability to actually take care of
yourself. So to be really aware of, you know, kind of the idea of the wounded, trying to help
the wounded off the battlefield, you've got to make sure your wounds are tended to. You've got to make
sure you're okay to really do that. And that's hard because maybe you're worried no one else is
going to do it, right? Or you're being asked directly or you feel called to be helpful in this way.
So I would start with that, making sure you're getting what you need, for the most part.
You're going to have bad days, of course.
But when you're getting what you need and then reaching out to those who need this help
or they're asking for that help, finding some resources, maybe what's helped you can always be helpful.
There are a lot of organizations that Trevor Projects are really good one that has, you know, 24-7, 365-day phone you can call.
all, I'm just going to say that number really quick.
It's 8664U, the letter, Trevor, T-R-E-V-O-R.
They've instant mentioning options for just text-based.
Trevor, text is who you can text to.
All of that.
The National Suicide Prevention Hotline should just be there.
Now it's 9-88.
Everyone just memorized that number.
And which is amazing.
It took them this long to get just a three.
But also, right?
And then there's specific trans lifeline numbers.
You can go to g-l-a-a-a-D.org and look under transgender resources to get most of this.
And then there's just lists and lists of very specific transgender organization support groups for, you know, black trans advocacy, Latinist coalition, gender spectrum family, trans athletes.
I mean, there is an endless amount, right?
so maybe doing your research first to see like what kind of resonates with you and when a friend needs help you have a better sense of what to say or do with that also so that's kind of more general stuff with the specific LDS component or any high demand religion that you know very conservative Christian kind of groups who there's the just sort of banishment element and the the you are dead to us kind of thing that can
tend to go on. That can be so much trickier. And so to really find your resources that are helpful
there. So there is one specific one. A lot of people have found really helpful. And it's Affirmation is
the name. Affirmation International. So it's affirmation.org. And that can be specific for
LGBTQ Mormon families and friends and just figuring out some of that support that way.
there are others, so, you know, I hate to just say Google it, but the reality is you do have
to kind of find what is going to be most supportive for you first, and then how you help
others. I do think, you know, this is, I don't always tell everyone to go to therapy. I'm trying
not to that. It's like my goal. So not tell everyone to just do that.
Well, but finding, finding therapists who are more knowledgeable in the,
in the specific struggles that come with being LGBT.
Yes.
And you can do this when you're searching for a therapist.
You can put that in a filter that will show that, you know, who is trained, who is friendly, some who are themselves trans.
Like there are lots of options, especially if you're in a bigger city.
And then there may be online options.
Better help probably has a way to do that too.
some of those more text-based or online therapy resources, to have this neutral person that can
guide you but is trained and you don't have to worry about their response to you, because I think
that's what's so difficult all the time is sort of not knowing if you're safe to be yourself.
If you're going to be judged by your therapist, yeah.
Yeah, right. And so that can feel really daunting. So the rest of us go get a therapist and we're just
like, well, I hope they're cool. You know, like we don't have a,
my very core selfhood is questioned by the person I'm going to open myself up to is that's a pretty
terrifying proposition. So there's resources of people who can both navigate the two circles that
this person finds themselves in and offering support. There are conferences all summer,
especially if this person, I guess I would assume there may be in Utah, that
address a lot of these different issues and a lot of you just you got to figure out what they are
I think sometimes what can feel really scary I know I feel this way about just kind of general
things is like is this authentically so what it says it is does this some other right you know
you feel like there's some creepy trickery that goes on sometimes absolutely and it's hard to it's
hard to vet right because there's so much of it it's kind of like it's like everything there's
so much of everything now that you, you know, vetting what the accuracy of everything from a
recipe that's supposedly handed down for generations to where do I get the most help for my
transgender gender son. It's the same level of confusions. Like, I don't know. I don't know where
the, is there a place that reviews these? Is there a, a Yelp type service for, for how I got help
with my kids or my family or whatever? Like, it's, it's, that's daunting. That part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And so know that that's difficult.
Like we hear you on that.
And there are resources like glad GLA AD has been around since the 80s.
You know, there's organizations that have really established themselves as reputable places.
So I would always start there.
And then really, I guess I just want to emphasize that making sure you're okay thing.
um it is very tempting to want to help before we're ready to help right yeah it's that whole
and i think about oxygen and i'll just give this from a perspective of like what happens
very frequently in therapy is someone will have an issue that i find myself going like
you know like i get activated because of it reminds me of something in my own life that's
maybe not resolved right like therapists get triggered too because we're humans
our jobs though is to get as much training as possible and to work on our own stuff so that we do not get in the way of a healing process for someone else and if we can't do it we need to refer you to someone else right um and so recognize with all of that we still have this happen to us and so what you're you're saying hey i want to be a helper
yeah to a community that i am incredibly tied up in yeah like it's it's my it's my community um i'm also under threat i also read the news
and feel scared.
I also don't know if it's safe for me.
You know, you're having all the same experiences,
really tricky to be in a position to help because intention is sometimes not enough.
And so recognizing that, kind of having some humility about that can be really helpful.
It doesn't mean you cannot be incredibly helpful.
You can.
But I do think there's a tendency to maybe say do what I've done rather than hearing someone's story.
and you can share what you your own of course but it can get difficult and very emotionally taxing
you can sort of lose yourself in someone else's stuff because it's easier than dealing with
your own so really want to emphasize that if you're not okay let's make that in the first priority
get those resources for yourself first yeah i was just thinking about like other times where
the intensity of the threat is also parallel to the intensity of the uprising,
or not the uprising,
but the push for change.
And, you know,
it wasn't what a year before I was born that Martin Luther King Jr. was shot dead.
And prior to that,
all the violence,
all the killings, all the lynchings,
all that stuff that was going on,
it couldn't have been more diametrically posed, right?
the change the desire for change and the push for change
juxtaposed to the resistance to that change
and I'm not saying we're about we're in for more bloodshed before we're not
maybe we are but I'm not that's not my point my point is like
if there's anything you can take from history it's like there is a
there is that positive take on this right that that kind of progress
takes massive effort from both those within and without the
community that is being oppressed and now we're seeing that we have there's more you know people
throw the word ally around and people might get sick of hearing it but there's more allies than
ever in this fight for for those who who want to do this and as a result there's this
diametrically opposed hardcore resistance to that so it's weird to say this because
I don't think I would have felt this way in my 20s because I see the world
differently. But having seen enough like this stuff go by, you can look at it and go, actually,
this is really great news that we're getting to a place where the strength of the change is at
an all-time high, the ally ship is at an all-time high, and the resistance is at an all-time
high. All of these are indicators that change is coming and may be permanent change. And it doesn't
mean it's perfect because there's plenty of issues for black people today.
But they aren't what they were in the 60s.
So I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know, I'm probably just repeating myself.
But somehow all of that, that gives me a little bit of hope in a weird way, even though, you know, the real hope would be that you wouldn't have this kind of resistance.
You wouldn't have people threatening violence and threatening legislation and some places actually passing legislation that really truly oppresses these people.
but I guess I'm just hopeful that the desire for change is as strong as it is
and you know that we'll get to a better place for these for these people who need it
and I don't know why it's so hard for us as a society you know we're always walking
around going don't tread on me but we're happy to tread on other people like I don't
understand I don't understand why this is hard for us you know so weird to me sorry Brian
are you going to say no I was agreeing with Scott oh I was going to say one thing I've
thought about that I think resonates with like just human nature is is this concept of
you know when you are experiencing like the world works for you it's kind of built for you and you've
you know you have certain expectations I feel like sometimes like we joke about Karen's but
I think a part of that is maybe Karen's got their way at a younger age and then they stop getting
their way as they no longer sexually available and that like entitlements still exists right and I and
there's different it's not all the haircut I think there has to be other experiences right but you take like
just any privileged person or class or experience person that's their main experience and then you you know
for them equality will actually feel like oppression because the the you know
someone else gets to step up to experience more privilege.
There's a perception of loss.
Like you're getting your privileges.
You mistakenly thinking you're getting your privileges taken away because
100%.
It's not the math at all.
And yet that's the experience of a lot of people.
So I'm very sensitive to the folks who are just like, I don't get this.
This is not, you know, I've had a couple friends who are like very progressive in many ways,
just sort of say, okay, this is where I get stuck.
And these are wonderful people who are trying, but then don't know how to have a conversation
with anyone because, A, they'll get their head ripped off because they're not ally enough or,
but they just don't get it yet.
And they need to have more experiences.
And they need to, you know, I've had people say, can you just explain to me so I can get it?
And I've done this a couple times.
I'm like, okay, so let's just try this on for size.
Because it feels like, oh, it's every single person.
It's not every single person.
Not every single person is trans.
But in these moments, right, you can imagine back during civil rights, it was like,
okay, let's stop talking about it.
You know, that kind of like you're interrupting the easiness of my life.
So it can feel like it's everything and everywhere, and especially the Internet makes things
feel that way too.
But so I've had a couple experiences where I will just walk someone through because they're
very open and they trust me to not, you know, mock them for not getting it.
And it's not like they want to go out and legislate against anything.
They just are at the beginning, right?
And if we can't sort of help someone at the beginning of figuring some things out,
I mean, we're all doomed, right?
Because we all have to learn.
There's more things I don't get now that I'll need to get to.
And I hope someone's kind to me as I figured that out, especially as we age, right?
The young kids are going to think we're all freaking idiots because we say words like
freaking or whatever, right?
Like we're all going to experience this.
Anyway, so I've had a couple of friends ask and I've walked them through this example
because instead of just sort of jumping to, you're a terrible person because you can't see
that this person needs to be treated differently or whatever, it's not maybe about that.
Sometimes it's just that's not what they're used to.
They're used to people dressing their particular gender.
There is a generational gap here.
My kids feel none of this.
They're just like, oh, yeah, it's a they.
And that's it.
Like they don't, there is no question.
There is no concern.
It is what it is.
And when you were not raised in the same experience,
you're going to have to have figured something out.
Anyway, so I walk people through this.
I'll say, okay, if they're feminine presenting specifically,
I'll just say, okay, now what I need you to do for one week is I want you to dress
in cargo shorts, like really baggy ones.
And then I want some white socks with some sandals.
cool okay and then I need and I describe in detail like a dad outfit that's not that attractive
and I kind of just now we're going to cut your hair really short and kind of like do this and then
I'm going to have you know I'm describing a masculine version of them and then saying okay now
just and I watch their face while I'm discussing this and I'm like okay now just tell me how you
feel in your body if you had to go for a week and everyone called you sir and dude and bro
and your pronouns are he him and like just just live a week like that and they are like okay
okay yeah no I I can't do that and I'm like okay now imagine that's how you feel all the time
but everyone says you have to wear that right or the other way around or you know whatever like
it's just about getting in someone's shoes right like if I've heard their stories I haven't
heard all the stories but I've heard many of those stories and when you hear someone's
story, it softens you, it gives you a chance to sort of put yourself in their shoes. But if you're
just fighting, if you're just scared, or if you're just screaming, like you never have to have that
experience, right? You don't, nothing will shift for, for anyone. So that, that feels like a very
small part of my being, what I would consider my version of being an ally is to just still be a place
where people who don't quite get it feel safe enough to talk about it and, and are willing to
listen and so I can kind of just give them that idea. And then sometimes I'll share some like
some of my clients have been incredibly suicidal until they could express themselves as the
gender they feel and just life altering to have that option and how their lives matter and
how we can sort of do things step by step differently. So anyway, that's just one piece of like
this bigger puzzle. And it's, it's, um, but the backlash is backlash and it. And it. And it's, um, but the backlash is
backlash and it and it always has existed and a generation will go by and then we'll think
it's silly that you know you this was ever a question or whatever it might be right like it's
I mean there are still people are racist and absolutely do not think a black man and a white
woman should get married yeah of course there are absolutely so maybe there will always be something
but I do think you know the smaller the smaller numbers that we can get that down the better
yeah let's just get a better ratio normal that you know it always feels to
say, oh, okay, your pronouns are they? I call you they, et cetera. Yeah, to me, that's kind of what's
getting at earlier. I like a, I like a better ratio. I like, I like when, uh, there are way less
flat earthers than not, you know? Like I'm not saying, I'm not saying kill them. I'm saying,
like, ideologically, let's all get to a place where we have better understandings of these
things and that we're accepting of everybody's lives. To me, it's simple. It's like, I get to
live my life the way I want to. I don't know why I would ever have the right to. I don't know why I would ever have
the right to tell someone else they don't. You know what I mean? Like if you want to
live your life, any way you want to live it, you should be able to live that life. It's your
life, not mine. Like, it doesn't make any sense to me. This whole fight makes no sense to me.
So when I see people get upset about it, like, I understand the feeling of like the first time
maybe you meet somebody who's transgender and they're early in the process and you might immediately
go, oh, last time I saw that person, they presented as a man, but now they're presenting as a woman
and you're not used to it. And you kind of have a little bit of like, oh, shoot,
I hope I don't say the wrong thing.
And, you know, I understand those emotions.
Those make sense to me because you're trying to navigate those,
those immediate situations.
What I don't understand is this, like, feeling like it's abhorrent to you
and that they are not allowed to do what they want to do.
Like, I don't understand it.
How it affects you.
Yeah, exactly.
I just don't get it.
That kind of control over other people makes no sense to me and never has.
And so, oh, it just frustrates a living crap out of it.
Well, and this is where everyone should go to therapy.
is this idea of like what is what is going on for somebody right like what is the if you're if
you're already pretty sure everyone's out to get you even though you're the most privileged human
to live on the planet right like something is going on there like like when I've had
conversations with somebody who's just like I got this mega rich on my own and I'm like oh I mean
okay but also like libraries are paid by tax funds and your roads you drive on like no you
didn't do everything on your own but why do you need it to be that way right like if that curiosity
about what's really going on for someone is is hard to pull off if they also trigger you right
like because we all get triggered for different reason we're all getting whatever button
pushed for different reasons it's really tricky when they collide
But it's really interesting when they don't, right?
When you can just see someone throwing a fit about something where it doesn't trigger you and you can just have that conversation is different than when we're both on opposite sides of the street screaming at each other outside of abortion clinic or something, right?
Yeah.
Like that that polarization thing is real.
And yet that is also really fun to participate in or report on the news or.
I mean, I kind of wish we had a news channel that just talked about how people navigate a difference as well.
Wouldn't that be fun?
She's like, look, we coordinated this effort.
Look how bipartisan this was.
You know, we just tend not to focus on that because humans are still doing that.
They are.
Every working relationship is doing that, right?
But it's about really figuring out some of your own responses to things.
Like, what is causing this for me?
And does it call me to do something more?
do I need to figure out
is this really like a daddy issue
I have not dealt with, right?
I'm telling you a big one with trans stuff
or anything with LGBTQ folks
tends to be triggering for other people
because I'm talking to those other people
who are being triggered
and I'm like, okay, let's explore
where does this come from.
A lot of it is never having permission
to be themselves.
And it's very triggered.
And the jealousy of seeing somebody else
getting to.
You need to do that.
And it also could be like they're having a disgust response.
They don't fully understand why.
It's confusing.
They don't like being confused.
And then they were never allowed to, they had to be a lawyer because their daddy made
them.
And there's like, whoa, okay.
So a lot going on here.
I mean, let's just take any of these legislators in any of these places and like find out
what is driving you?
Is it people telling you they need this?
Is this your own thing?
Like there is, have you seen that John Stewart interview with the legislator from like Missouri or whatever?
Oh, that was amazing. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I can't believe that guy even consented to sit in on that. I cannot believe it. Have they not seen the show? He tore him to bits. But also that level of I am so right. The level of arrogance. But that protecting children is this banner cry that is sort of really covering up some other things. And that is this is why I'm going to there.
but no it's hard to stare at our own thing right it's really hard to stare at own thing um anyway
so going back to the to the emailer just this idea of like that's still true it's hard to stare at
your own stuff right it's hard to really look at that and feel the discomfort of your things and it is
so compelling i and i'm speaking for myself here really it's so much easier to help people
much easier than to help myself or to deal with my own thing because I know how to do that.
And when you've been through something very difficult and you're helping others navigate,
it feels really good and you want to be there for them.
But like really make sure you are getting the support and care you need because, you know,
but it's maybe just the reality sometimes that the wounded have to help the wounded
because we're, they're feeling so embattled at the moment and, you know, we hope to feature.
It was different.
Yeah, I really hope so.
And I know it's, you know, I get a little heat in the chat room for being a little too
polyanish about it, but I really do see this progress as positive.
Like, I just, I don't know what else to call it.
Like, there was a time where you couldn't come out at all.
Now you can and you have allies.
And I want to be one of those for people.
And I know a lot of other people do too.
And so I don't know.
I just don't know what the, I don't know what the end game is.
But I hope the end game is, you know, I hope it's Star Trek the next generation.
That's what I hope it is.
Utopian society, sure.
Yeah, you know, minus the Borg and the crystalline entity and all that.
But still, let's go.
Let's get to a better place.
All right.
Let's all take the Kobayashi Maru.
Let's all do the impossible test they give you at Starfleet.
Wendy, it's always good to having you on.
We'll miss this next week.
However, maybe we'll record something while I'm there and we'll put it up on the feed or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, let's do it.
We'll do a little sit down at the wherever we're staying, Airbnbs and sit down.
Yeah, you could interview me about my life's accomplishments.
Yeah, all the many things you've done, good and bad.
How you basically built an entire psychological practice out of me chasing you with a cold tottering.
Yeah, I could tell that story again.
Let's get that in there.
Anyway, I hope you guys have a safe trip and all that stuff and enjoy your time because I know you're going to get to be in Vegas for.
bed. It's going to be hot, though. Holy crap. You're going to be hot.
Oh, my gosh. Why are you guys doing this to me?
We land, I don't know
what in Vegas temperatures, because, you know, I get it mixed up
with Las Vegas, New Mexico.
Whatever the sun is, just subtract
five. Yeah.
But when I get
to Salt Lake, we get there Sunday, and
it's like 105
nightmare land. Like, what's happening?
Yeah, currently, so,
oh, here's the good news. So
oh, no, that's bad news.
So you get there Saturday, 115
in Vegas.
111 the next day
106 on Monday so nice
cool Monday but you'll be gone by
that I think
yeah anyway yeah nice and hot but everywhere
there is very air condition and
probably waste a ton of electricity
we'll go out on this trip unless you have wooden shoes
because your rubber sold shoes won't last
you'll leave little footprints
bring all our shoes from Holland
bring them right yes exactly
flaming soul prints on the road
I love it sounds so terrible
The good news is any sort of COVID or otherwise disease outside will immediately be murdered.
Singed.
Yeah.
Burned off like it should be.
All right.
But have a fantastic one.
And I can't wait to see you and your kids.
Be safe.
We'll see you then.
All right.
Bye, thanks.
Bye now.
Oh, she's hanging up in a hard way there.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's over.
All right.
Well done, everybody.
In the chat, lots of good conversation.
and happy to see that.
Keep that going on our Discord, that kind of stuff.
I was going to say, it'll definitely continue over there and as it should.
Fosho.
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got a we got to go but we need uh music for that though all right so coverville at one
core tonight oh yeah court tonight 5 p.m check that out me bow and john all back together
yay the threesome returns uh no guess the connection tomorrow because we're doing play date
we skip guest connection on days where we do play dates so um you have to just wait one more
week to find out who won.
But we haven't figured out what time we're starting play date.
Oh, right.
We haven't talked about that, but I can do whatever, 9, 10, whatever.
Yeah, I think 9 might actually be better for me tomorrow.
Yeah, we'll end at 11.
That's perfect.
Let's do it.
9 a.m. tomorrow, that'll be on the public feed.
So come to frogpants.
TV for that.
And if you're a patron, you get some preferential treatment if you want to play with us.
Oh, yeah, what are we playing?
We even talk about that.
I think it'll be back to Jackbox.
If we're alternating, then we're doing some jackbox business.
We'll warm up with some drawful.
It's been a bit.
Yeah.
And we'll play through some of our favorite jackbox games.
That's a great idea.
I'll start warming up my apple pencil.
Oh, good.
So, yeah, that'll be tomorrow.
And also this weekend film sack, you're probably going to get our horror bonus show,
or our horror special, horror.
And then you'll get a...
Hara.
That's Brian, I would say.
Right after that, you'll end up.
Getting, what do we? Uncharted. I watched it last night. Yeah, I got to watch that tonight or tomorrow. And then after that, another special. Once again, I've completely forgotten it. Yeah. But we'll, did you end up, so with Green Lantern, did you go do like a refresher or anything? Or what did you did? I did the, um, uh, Fandango movie clips. It's like, I do that regardless. Like, because if I watch the movie on a Wednesday or Thursday night, then I will do the morning we do film sec, I'll watch the movie clips on, uh, from Fandango. And, um, that's, um,
That's a great way to do it.
Because it's like, oh, yeah, that's right.
I forgot about this scene and I type more notes and that's sort of thing.
I should do that when we, because sometimes we have a week where we can't get to bump or whatever, but I need to do that.
Well, anyway, tons of content this weekend.
So do check it all out.
Hopefully a skim later today if Kim is back from her cooking chicken.
They're cooking massive amounts of chicken at Misha's house so they can get it ready for the trip.
Deep frying, baking, grilling?
Grilling, I believe grilling, because the goal is one night we're doing like,
fajitas or something.
Oh, gosh, that's awesome.
I know, it sounds good, right?
Chicken fajitas, steak as well, I believe.
Yes, a little fajita bar.
I get it.
That's so good.
These big family groups, those assemble your damn self meals are the best.
They really are the best because not only you get a little more choice, it always, it tastes like, you know how camping food tastes so good?
It's like that somehow.
Yes.
Yes.
For sure.
Anyway, lots of stuff to catch, so make sure you do.
And join our Discord, as we mentioned earlier.
We are at frogpants.com slash Discord.
It's free to everybody to join in.
We've got tons of cool forums going now.
People are competing in that golf, coffee golf game every day.
Oh, I need to do mine today, yeah.
It was a good one today.
I got some tree problems, but it was, I got my first hole in one since the, since we started playing.
Ooh, with a driver or?
Was a driver, I believe.
Yeah, it would have been.
And it was pure luck, and there's no way I could replicate it.
Like a lot of hole in ones, right?
They're hard to do.
Yeah.
In real life, even.
But I got one, and I couldn't believe it.
And then I proceeded on the next hole that he liked six strokes.
So it didn't matter.
It was still a shitty score at the end of the day, but so much fun.
Anyway, Brian, let's do a song.
You've probably got a little something prepared here.
Bounce, bounce, roll.
Stop.
Oh, right past it.
Hey, Duncan rode in, said,
The day is here.
On this day, I have successfully written the big blue marble we call Earth for the 30th time.
Oh.
Let's party.
Nice.
It has been a weird journey, and you guys have been making poop jokes and Brian in my head since 2007, where I started playing wow, listening to the instance, then film sack, and then the morning stream.
You guys have both been entertaining, hugely impactful on my life.
You both helped me through some tough times, and Wendy's segment taught me the invaluable lessons about myself, how not to be horrible, and the importance of mental health.
Always a big lesson.
Don't be horrible.
Yeah.
How not to be horrible.
You all made me confident enough to be a nerd
Before it was cool
Now that 12 year old kid
Who is listening to you while leveling through the Barrens
Is now a 30 year old
Starting a family and a career in the game industry
Oh, power to you
Oh, cool, dude, that's awesome
Can I get any cover by Tenacious D?
Jack Black doesn't get enough credit
For how good a singer he is
And if you can't play anything by them
Any rock and song to go along with my victorious charge
Into my 30s
As long as you guys keep talking
I'll keep listening. Love the show though
Can I get a We Got Scooters or a Scott Fletcher boobies?
Oh, man, what's easier?
Let's see, is this it?
No, that's not it.
No, but that's what some people do with boobies.
They do.
They honk them and then go, oh.
Let's see, boobies.
I definitely have a Scott Fletcher boobies.
Let's see.
Here's, maybe, let's see.
Wait.
Red? No.
Roses are red, five.
Amazing.
Penicism.
No, no, no, no.
Spring break.
Boobies.
There it is. That's been a while, dude. That thing was buried. That was buried. Yeah, sounds like it. And then, P.S., you were both right. The 20s, you're, in the 20s, you're just worrying about finding yourself. And if you're successful enough, everyone, 29 and lower, don't worry.
Yeah, quit worrying about it. Really, I wish somebody could have convinced me to quit worrying when I was in my 20s. Yeah, so true. It's just a fun time and you don't need to worry. People in your 30s, don't worry.
Yeah, you know what?
Changes when you turn 40 either. You know what? 40, 40 year olds, you're fine too. Everyone's, everyone.
And you know what?
When I'm 60, I'll tell my 50-year-old self to knock it off.
This is how this works.
This is life.
Exactly.
That's how it goes.
All right.
Let's get to this.
A lot of people suggested this one in the chat room.
We're hoping for this one.
It is basically their cover of the entire second side of Abbey Road.
Not really, but a lot of it.
Starting with You Never Give Me Your Money.
Here's Tenacious D with that whole Beatles medley.
You never give me your money.
you only give me your funny papers and in the middle of negotiations you break down
i never give you my number i only give you my situation but in the middle of situation
But in the middle of investigations, I break down
Out of college money spent
See no future, ain't no brand
All the money gone, nowhere to go
Monday morning hit the sack
What the fuck you're licking my crack
Yellow belly gown, nowhere to go
Throw that magic feeling
know where to go
and oh that magic feeling
nowhere to go
nowhere to go
rock
rock
Rock and roll
Once we dream
Pick up the sock
Get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe
That's here away
Once we dreamed
Can true
Today
Came true
Today
Came true today
Come true
Today
Today
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
All good children go to heaven.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
All good children go to heaven.
One, four, all.
Ticat, Ticat, Ticat, Ticat, Ticat, cac, cac, cac, cac, cac.
Oh, yeah, all right.
Are you going to be a magic?
tonight.
Chach, chuk, chuk, chuk, chuk, chuk, chuk, chuk, chuk.
Tika, tika, tika, chik.
Frata, co, go, co, kiki, kak, kha.
Oh shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh, shit.
Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, shit.
G.
B.
B, blah, blah.
And skip
Bidip Bidipidipidip
Biddy Peeee Gaggaggak
Gaggak
Gak Gak Gak Gap
Beep Bididididip
Bidip Burri Poo
Skip
Skat
And a motherfucker fucking skats
And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love
You may
