The Morning Stream - TMS 2508: Proprietary Ooze

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

Cha' Calla. Sounds outta my face. Never go full Bishop. Adobe Fresca. Love me an Underage Ward. Moon Knight AKA Phil Spector. I WILL be Going There! Click. I need to Gummy and Think. Ernie Kovacs and ...his Freakin' Monkeys. Randy Quad's World is Stupid. Why don't you just give them the answer!?!?! The Cadence of Nonsense. Tom Cruise/Hanks. Experimenting with Tom Merritt. Pretending Randy had a Charlie with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TMS is brought to you daily by and large by the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS like Chris Ross, Nick, and Corey M. Jimenez. Coming up on TMS, Chachala. Sounds out of my face. Never go full bishop. Adobe fresca. Love me some underage ward. Moon night, also known as Phil Specter.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I will be going there. I need to come me and think. Ernie Kovacs and his freaking monkeys. Randy Quaid's world is. stupid. Why don't you just give them the answer? The cadence of nonsense. Tom Cruise slash Hanks. Experimenting with Tom Merritt. Pretending Randy had a Charlie with Nicole on recommendals and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Bobby, I didn't think I'd ever need to tell you this, but I would be a bad parent if I didn't. Soccer was invented by European
Starting point is 00:00:53 ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking. In the name of Zeus's Butthole! She's only your girl, because she ain't had a taste of the Duke yet. This is the morning stream. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. The morning stream is now, and here's the date. It's Wednesday, August 16th, 2023.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm Scott Johnson, and that's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Hello, welcome to the second half of August. Oh, my gosh. We're now on our way out of August as opposed to on our way in. Didn't you just literally say this for July, like five seconds ago? Probably. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It just, oh, just, I don't like it. Gets us. I don't like it. I don't feel like my days are any crazier. I don't know what it is. My perceptions. I know. It's just all left up right now.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Whatever. look hey kids you have something to look forward to time as it feels to you right now well not last you know yeah enjoy the feeling of pushing that boulder uphill because you get to a certain point and it's going to just roll downhill and they're in a damn thing that you can do about it nope ain't stopping that rock that stone from rolling it'll be a rolling stone it's a rolling stone won't gather any moss though which is nice oh that is nice you got to look forward yeah there's a nice benefit to it it turns out um i was thinking about something the other day Because for some people, okay, so my brother Matt, he has a very thick Korean accent.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And some people can't understand what he's saying. When they're in the same room as me listening to him, I understand every word he's saying. They don't understand him at all. And it's, that's expected. You're around it, so you're used to it and you understand it. Yeah, you learn to, right, you learn to understand. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And I do this pretty well with any Asian accents. You could have very thick, um, accents. in Japanese, Chinese, Mandarin, whatever. It doesn't matter. I can suss it out, and I think it comes from being raised around, you know, native Korean speakers trying to learn English, and for whatever reason, I just pick up on it. So it's not a problem for me. Some people struggle with it.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I don't at all. There are certain, like, really deep Irish accents that I have to really screw up my face to hear. Like, wait a minute, what did he say? You know, like, so I. Oh, sure. Or British. Even have you, think British, like.
Starting point is 00:03:27 you know, Piki blinders. We've got to turn subtitles on for Peky Blinders. Yeah, that's another good example. So anyway, it's a thing. And it got me to thinking,
Starting point is 00:03:36 what does English sound like? Because I know what, like, if you said something in Japanese right now, I'd go, oh, that's what it sounds like when someone's speaking Japanese. I don't know the language,
Starting point is 00:03:47 but I can recognize someone speaking in it. You can recognize that it's Japanese. Right. And I always think, because we're from the perspective of the English speaking side, hearing some other language, how do we sound to them
Starting point is 00:04:00 before they know any English? Sure. And I found an example of it. Somebody actually recorded this. And I'm going to play it for you, Brian, because it's so, I don't know why this is so weird to me because it's immediately like
Starting point is 00:04:13 this sounds like English people talking, but I don't know what they're saying. So I'll play it, and then we'll talk about it. It's pretty weird. Check this out. It's all right. You're up on the watch today. Oh?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. The toll's a ring on her face. can't break that more out of the John which is not by the love not called yeah I come by the mystery I did that privating by the wrong front line today oh the raising man with the national definitely great that tradition
Starting point is 00:04:39 I mean the mic's not great but but they're just talking in like nonsense almost simless it's like it's like simlish English it's so funny it's like I feel like I'm hearing the word oh no no no today you know like at the end of a couple of the
Starting point is 00:04:55 things it's like they ended with today. But, yeah, that's wild. That is, right, if you were, if you, now I know exactly what you mean. If you were to hear this and you didn't speak English, you would say, oh, that sounds like people speaking English. Yeah. And up till now, until I got this example, I didn't know how to describe that because how do you, like to me, you and I are saying words right now that we comprehend and then we
Starting point is 00:05:20 respond to each other. And it's, you know, we never think of this because we're in the thick of talking, you know, but we never think about what is what is actually happening well my lips are moving my tongue is helping out my teeth are there to do a little bit of the work we got the throat and the lungs all this stuff is contributing to sounds coming out of my face yeah that you recognize immediately because you also know this particular pattern slash language that I'm using but other people don't so what does that sound like to that I don't know why that fascinates me it's just so weird to me so to hear that was like oh yeah right of course they would hear the familiar cadence i feel the
Starting point is 00:06:01 cadence of it right it's familiar to me but they're saying nonsense i don't know i just find that yeah no it's yeah it's that's that takes a really a really good talent too to be able to come up with english sounding gibberish yeah yeah i don't know if i could do it trying to think would i go i'd have to have a script i can't do it i can't do it i can't honestly i can't do it like how like those people the way they were talking um i'll even skip ahead and do this a little bit here i got somebody in play oh hey natsman what's in a hashoon lining panning garbiting the men of Spain it's carpetable passion guards actually tracy palin not having it since like four days so but how were they whipping that out so fast all right well
Starting point is 00:06:46 it's funny because some of it sit like i could as what he just said Tracy paulin did like there's there's some weird parts of that that sound like english but then there are other parts and what is with the elevator music playing along with this i don't know i feel like in a way that it's designed to make it harder i don't know i don't know yeah like you're watching a movie with two characters talking or something yeah i'd almost rather i almost rather hear this where somebody is just out loud talking on a good microphone so i can you really break it down i mean maybe there's some video somewhere I could find this but I don't know I went in a I went down a weird rabbit hole on this and I started looking up linguistics and you know like you know you hear somebody
Starting point is 00:07:30 like um you hear somebody from Africa from a tribe that where they did the popping and the snapping sounds when they when they speak I forgot that's whatever it's called from like that movie Swahili from the gods must be crazy that's it yeah is it Swahili I can't remember which uh something like that but they got all the yeah all that stuff going on And to us, we hear that and go, what the hell are you doing, right? Yeah. Like that doesn't... Amy says it's, uh, kosha, shosa.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I don't know how you pronounce. See, there we go. Is it Kosa? Yeah. Is that how it's pronounced? I don't know. I don't know, but I hear that and I just go, well, that's ridiculous. That's not language.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And then you learn better and you're like, oh, no, it is language. And to them, that sounds really normal. What do I sound like to them? That's what I want to know. Do those people hear me and just go, what the freak are they saying? Cosech. that's how it's pronounced. Yeah, it'd be really cool, or COSA.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You know, hearing that, right, with the pops and the clicks and stuff, wouldn't that be great if we use that for punctuation in English? Like, when we spoke English, we would be like a little at the end. Yeah, like, I just don't feel like going to work today. Like kind of a sad period at the end. Exactly. But then if you're making a really important statement, you'd be like, I will be going there. Yeah, like some kind of really important one.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And then what would you do for an exclamation point? What kind of sound is that? Oh, that was the, that was what I would do for the exclamation point. How about a question? What did you do for a question? Question mark is tough, right? What would you do? I just whistle.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Are you going to go to the movies tonight? See, that's what, and see, again, this gets to the whole, like, origin of language and when decisions are made. I mean, obviously, it's a long process over thousands of years and, you know, Latin gets in there and everybody. It's all this big mix of things. I understand that. It's not simple. It's not as simple as somebody woke up one day and went. Fellow cave people, just like to let you know, I've come up with a language. We're all going to be, I understand it doesn't work that way. But to me, it's fascinating that we didn't, we decided that the emphasis would not be a sound, but instead how high we might raise our voice. So if I want to say, I don't like bees, I'm going, I don't. like b like i'm going wee yeah over here well that's a that's a why why isn't it i don't like
Starting point is 00:09:57 bees like why isn't it that yeah right right i don't know this is stuff stoners think of i need i need to go back to vegas and give me get me some gummies and think about these things more gosh dang i don't know yeah sometimes i just like to get to the roots of humanity i'm so sick of the surface level stuff i just want to know you know why do we do what we do and uh by the way uh people in the chat room are clamoring about the Victor Borga. Victor Borga does apparently a bit about this, about phonetic pronunciation. I've seen Victor Borga. It's not a hate.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah. Oh my gosh. Nice one. Nice deep cut. Thank you very much. How do you got, listen, are you all my grandparents in there? How do you all know about Victor freaking Borga? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Are you going to tell us about Leslie Kovacs at some point? Yeah. That's weird, man. Is it the punctuation thing? Is that the bit? I think it must be. Yeah, I must be. can find a tiny taste of it um here we go i invented it many years ago when i first noticed that
Starting point is 00:10:55 people who speak together often fail to understand each other clearly okay when we read all right we use punctuation marks in order to underline the meaning oh this is literally what we talked about it's literally what we talked about what are his noises let's hear his noises yeah but we do not have that support when we speak so why not integrate punctuation marks into our speech then we can underline but we intend to convey to each other verbally. Okay, give us an example. What the hell of all that night?
Starting point is 00:11:25 I always get involved in all these speeches and things like that. Well, of course, you get, and then, of course, well, and then, of course, well, it was right. It was right. What?
Starting point is 00:11:45 I'm not sure we're there yet. I'll teach you how to use the system. It's very simple. All right, hurry up. A period sounds like this. Oh my gosh. What the frick, Brian? It had to be, listen, I've heard Victor Borgia, I must have this, have had this in my subconscious.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I don't know. I prefer to think you predicted it. I think you predicted it. That's what I'm going to go with that story. Hold on. Let's see what he says for the rest of these. Yeah, let's, oh, yes. An exclamation point is a vertical.
Starting point is 00:12:15 dash with a period underneath okay okay so so he's doing the yeah so that's a two-parter see that's a comma
Starting point is 00:12:27 oh that's a comma or two commas or if you happen to be left-handed question mark is a little difficult so was this guy like a I mean, would you call, was Victor Borga a stand-up comedian?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Was that his deal? Stand-up, see, that's a, I mean, yeah, he was a, was he, he was also a pianist, or am I, I know Tom Lera was a pianist who would do this sort of thing, too, where he'd combine academic comedy with piano. Yeah, he's got a bit, in fact, in this bit here, he's got a giant piano in the background, although he doesn't look like he sits at it. Yeah, and Victor, Victor Borga was a pianist as well, and I'm trying to remember, like, is he, um shoot yeah i mean that's it's kind of his own thing um and genie says that too he was his own
Starting point is 00:13:19 thing yeah because it i wouldn't call what he i mean what he's doing definitely feels like stand-up you could easily hear jerry seinfeld saying so i got interested in wondering what it would be like if we start pronouncing punctuation why don't we pronounce punctuation yeah that's a good point it kind of is not that different i guess it's it's a form of stand-up music music assisted stand-up. That guy lived in 90, died in 2000. It was born in 1909. Well, that's the math. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. Anyway, there you go. It reminds me that I need to go back and listen to some more Tom Lairor. I love that guy. And yeah, I talked about this in chat. I've been chatting with Jeannie. Ernie Kovacs is who I was talking about. Not Leslie Kovacs.
Starting point is 00:14:00 My Hungarian grandparents had a friend named Leslie Kovacs, and I would do that all the time. I think when I was a little kid, I even asked if they were related because we would watch the Ernie Kovacs. show with those freaking monkeys, the one, the smoking a cigar, a Nairobi trio. Yeah. That music has permanent residence in my brain. That doom, doon, do, do, do, do. So you'd watch this at your grandparents' place, that you said?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, we'd watch it my grandparents' place. After Love Boat before Fantasy Island. Sure, sure. No, you had the whole geriatric lineup over your grandparents. Um, the, uh, I don't, I don't, I guess I don't know them that well, but I, but there, I know, I remember everybody from Letterman to Carson, um, many others all claim that he was like a big influence on whether or what they ended up doing. Like Ernie Kovacs was like a proto late night talk show host variety hour guy. Yeah, yeah, totally that completely with little comedy skits and stuff like that. I mean, it was, uh, God, no kidding. That stuff. predated so much of that stuff, SNL and Mad TV and Fridays and, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, he died young, 42 is all. Oh, really? Yeah, it was a car accident. Chevrolet Corvair station wagon. Oh, unsafe at any speed. Isn't that the Corvair deal? I think that's, I think that is the deal. The crash new power pole in West Los Angeles on a tight turn.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Let's see, was throwing half an air station. It almost died instantly from chest and head injuries. That's some nuts gnarly. You don't like that. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. Unsafe at any speed. So that's Ralph Nader's book about the Corvare.
Starting point is 00:15:50 About that car? About that car specifically, yes. I bet this is a high-profile version or a reason that you would want to even have that book, you know? Like when you have a famous dude have this happen. People at his funeral were like Jack Lemon, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, George Burns. Groucho Marx, all those people, they all, man, he was a big... Yeah, Groucho Marx doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It feels like those two would have had such a tremendous influence on each other. Yeah, how could you not? Yeah. All right, you guys, we'll pull back into the end of the 20th century and 24th century. Exactly. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Enough old people talk. Brian says he's still in a meeting as of 925, as of five minutes ago. I wonder if he's free yet. Well, we'll check him in a sec. Here, I'm going to play. Here, I'll read you this thing. in the meantime. Maybe this is last time.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Oh, yeah, okay. We have more stuff. Good. All right. Yeah, we got, we talked about movie props, which ones we would steal if we were going to steal a movie prop. Ron from PA wrote in on our text line 8014710462 and says, Dear Tots and Beans. That doesn't work, though. Because Beans works for Brian, but Tots doesn't work for me, right? No, but Tots, but Tots sounds like Scott. Oh. Four of the five letters of your name.
Starting point is 00:17:03 All right. We'll allow it. I'll allow it. Yeah. Objection overruled. Here's what it says. More movie props I'd want. Number one, the original series Space Shuttle from Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Okay. So that's big, though. I don't know why you'd want that, but maybe he means the model. If it's the model, sure. I'm sure it's just the model, sure. Yeah, it's only a model. Two, the mech suit from aliens. That's a great, that's a great pick right there.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Isn't there a, like, a McFarland toy? Somebody makes a highly realistic version of her inside of it, scaled down, obviously, but it's like a 12-inch. that the 3D artist Wicked that I follow just did it. Well, yeah, I showed you that diorama that's got Newt and the Queen and Ripley and the MEC suit
Starting point is 00:17:49 and... I am probably thinking of that. Bishop and a half. Yeah, half a bishop. I think I'm thinking of that because you did just send that and that really stuck with me, especially the Bishop one. I want half bishop real bad. That was awesome. I know. I'll see about printing you a half bishop. That was so cool. I don't want full bishop. Just half. No, no. All I can print you is
Starting point is 00:18:07 half. I can only print you half bishop. Yeah. Or you could do, who is the synthetic in the first one? Ash, Ash. Oh, Ash. Give me, I want Ash shoulders and head. No, he was just head. He was just head. He was kind of shoulders, right? We'd have to have a bunch of tubes hooked up that would pour milk out of his face. Yeah, yeah, you got to have that. Let's see here. Number three, he says, the piece of glass from John McLean's foot, or a piece of glass. I guess he means the big one he pulled out. Yeah, because he does pull a lot of glass out of his foot. But again, that's a thing. that you would have to then explain to people is what the prop is
Starting point is 00:18:42 because you have it in a shadow box. Yeah. It'd be like, oh, that's the piece of glass from John McLean's foot and diehard. Yeah, you'd have to explain it. You'd put a little placard there. People would just have to believe you. You know? Maybe you get a close-up
Starting point is 00:18:59 or you get a photo you've zoomed in and enhanced with AI technology of the actual glass being pulled from his foot and it will be the exact shape of the piece you have under glass. and then you could, you know, show people, I guess. Give me the little, the model of Nakatomi Plaza that, you know, that the first death occurs next to, like the, what's his face when he gets shot? Sure, that would work.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I would also take what's his name's Coke, but again, that's the same problem as the glass. That's the problem you've got to explain it. I want props that I don't have to explain. Yeah, I'm with you. That's a good rule. Well, then you won't like number four. He says, the fly from the worst episode of Breaking Bad. Any fly would look like that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm afraid. Yeah, exactly. Also, I'll rephrase that. I think that is the fly from the underrated episode of Breaking Bad. I think that's a great episode just because people were stopped from major story progression for one 45-minute period. It does not make it a bad episode. Yep, I agree. Every series has a little, what do they call them?
Starting point is 00:20:00 We had a word for it. They call it a bottle episode. Bottle episode, self-contained. Yep. And there's nothing wrong with the self-contained episode. Nothing at all. And I love, I think Abed even says at one point in a community, an episode of community, says, oh, this is a bottle episode.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, he knows. He breaks those. The fourth wall breaking and that show is fantastic. They still doing that movie or is that on hold or do you know? Oh, God, I'll bet you that's on, well, it was announced for this fall now that you say that. So I'm guessing. Should be in post-production by now. Should be in post-production, maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. um uh by the way while i'm looking for this oh yeah nope uh the strike continues for another few weeks or months it could set things back to 2024 summer 2024 so it apparently did not um make it through the uh before the strike started it wasn't far enough where they had all the reshoots or whatever they needed probably that's a shame um i saw at a comic con so this threw me there's this comic con video floating around i gotta find it i don't even know which comic on or which city or whatever but uh it's chevi chase and um randy quade taking pictures with each other because you know they were in the vacation movies um i thought randy quade was like in hiding somewhere like wasn't he like in
Starting point is 00:21:26 he like went to yeah exiled in canada right like uh self self uh exiled in canada yeah and i just thought that was strange that he's out in the open just getting pictures done i thought he said the fbi i was going to snipe him if he poked his head out too far right right yeah but he came to he was he he and uh chivy chase were here at the um uh expo the uh comic con thing so if that's the case is this whole thing is he just bullshitting because this is how he keeps relevant now do you think this probably i'm just this world is stupid why do we do it i think i think i just think Randy Quaid's world is stupid. I think that's it. Do you think... It's stupid. What kind of contact do you think Dennis Quaid and Randy Quaid have with each other
Starting point is 00:22:11 right now, by the way? Do you think it's like... I don't know. Zoom Thanksgiving. Are you on the wife coming to a coming to Thanksgiving? Yeah. And if he's like jealous of his nephew, because Jack Quaid's having a real moment. So he's like, I don't want to hang around that kid. That's stupid case to change his diapers. I don't want to go to Thanksgiving with Jack Quaid. He's successful and I'm washed up. I don't want that. Exactly. Yes. Well, anyway, we'll find out more, I'm sure, as we go along. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:39 We have Brian Dunaway now. He is available. Oh, good. Availability confirmed. Adding him to the call now. That means, if you guys want to be a part of things today, you need to DM me on Discord if you want to be our third pocket. It's not even a thing. I don't know why I said that. Our third pocket.
Starting point is 00:22:55 But if you want to win some prizes, that's how this is going to have to go. Oh, I'm in the wrong thing. Shit, hold on. Oh. remove not remove friend remove i'm in the wrong place remove from server how do i get oh you added yeah funny uh yeah i was wondering where you if you gave a photo of uh quade and chivy chase uh together i was wondering where you might put that because that's who started our who started our recommendals group do you know who's in charge of that group because i didn't start it i can't remove done away now
Starting point is 00:23:27 from that group oh really i let me see if i can i wonder if i started it try it um It may have been Randy. I'm not sure. Let's see. Brian Dunaway. Oh, hi. He says, remove. Do I remove friend?
Starting point is 00:23:40 No, because that'll get rid of him as a friend friend. Yeah. No, I don't have the option to... I think it goes Randy. Crap. All right. Well, whatever. We're adding him now.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It's all going to be good. Sit back and enjoy this little intro we have. And Brian Dunnoye joining the program as he does each and every Wednesday and Monday. mornings. Hello, Brian. Welcome back to the show. Oh, hi. He's gotten, Brian. Hi. Are you at home? Where are you? I need a meeting. What's going on? I'm, I just got done with a meeting. Oh, fun. So I'm on my portable. Yeah, fun. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. A little meeting here and there never hurt nobody, right? Yeah. Except when we go 30 minutes long. Exactly. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah. Was there anything big going on in your world to necessitate a more than half hour meeting? Like, What was it going on? Is it serious? Yeah, we're changing a schedule a little bit. So, yeah, more news coming. Oh, that's right. Oh, really? Yeah, there's something coming.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You won't know. We can't give details, yeah, because you don't know yet, but it's coming. No, not yet. But I know, but I don't want to talk about it here. No, no. No, hell no. Here, forget it. But soon.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Well, it's great to have you here and enjoy being in the recommendals planning group for as long as it lasts because that's where you're also on at today. Oh, I got some recommendals. Oh, do you now? fantastic. I mean, you really could run rampant in there. They're mostly VHSs, but I got them. You could go nuts in there because Randy's not around to fix this. So, uh, since, he started the group. That's a great idea. Yeah, you could spread your poo-poo wide in there and nobody could do anything about it. Uh, anyway, it's good to have you here. I'm always spreading my
Starting point is 00:25:17 poopoo wide, but thank you. Yeah, here. What we do? Uh, looks like we have, oh, nobody's called in you. What's going on here? Uh, chat room, get in here. We need you. Uh, we want, we want, yeah, maybe. We want one of you. We want to give some prizes away. Get some. some good prizes to give, too. Come on now. Oh, I got one, but that was last week's winner. I can't necessarily do that right away. So we need one.
Starting point is 00:25:38 We need at least one more of you. Any of you want to hop in? Doesn't matter who we are unless you won last week. Oh, I think we may have one. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe this is who this is. Okay, hold on. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Can I add them without? Oh, are we not friends? Hold on, dude. Oh, no, we're friends. how come i can't do it how come you won't come up you're having a lot of technical issues you know i really am i don't know what's going on so it's joey image and he's in he's oh i have to add him joey okay joey of that i've given you a friend request you got to accept it for some reason you got your setting set to not pull me in or i can't pull you in i hope we don't have to
Starting point is 00:26:21 wrestle the mic from him i mean i hope you're right okay hold on joey no it's still not working So, Joey, accept my friend request And I'll pull you in here And then define what a turnbuckle is When you get in there We need to know We need to know what a turn buckle is All right, we're trying again
Starting point is 00:26:38 How much is a half Nelson? Hey, hey you All right, let's see, let me try it now Joey Now he still hasn't accepted it Joey Joey I got it You got to accept my friend request
Starting point is 00:26:50 Before I can let you in Crap all right You know what Next week, Joey for sure Because now I've got to pick a different one. It's taking too long. So we're going to take BioCow.
Starting point is 00:27:02 We know him. Oh, we know BioCow. Yeah, we know BioCow. Just fine. He's a cool dude. He's coming in. BioCow, welcome to the show. Thanks for saving us here.
Starting point is 00:27:11 We appreciate it. No problem. What's going on, man? You're doing all right? You're kicking it and living it and doing all that? I'm doing good. Keep in busy, yeah. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:27:20 That's fantastic. BioCow, of course, famous for making our rad title selection stuff. Oh, my dad. Yeah. So much stuff. that he has made possible for us because of his technical ecumen. And it spreads far and wide.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Tom uses it, those weirdos down in Boston. You're spreading a lot of things far and wide today. Yeah. Yeah, just spreading it around. Anyway, we're going to play a game. I know you know how this game works, Preston, but we're still going to play it regardless. And Brian, Ibbett over here is going to explain it and tell you what prizes you're going to win.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Brian, take it away. Dorn right. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. And Scott Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers. They can guess. Biocow, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
Starting point is 00:28:08 If your team wins, you'll get a prize package that includes Quadrata and soul searching, both on Steam. Quadrata is this very cool, minimalist game that looks to be a lot more complex than it seems, just based on the images and the description I saw. very um i have not heard of this it sounds interesting no it looks really cool it looks like something i play soul searching every day though oh yeah yeah your own game just you don't play it on steve you've you played in uh in uh irl yeah it's built into the the o s yes it's in your firmware is that you're saying right exactly show us your firmware it's in the bios yeah uh nice bios cow uh well excellent uh that sounds like a little real good time what's our topic today so we can
Starting point is 00:28:55 your topic today this came right from the tadpool um so translate it however you wish good luck with this put your hands on your buzzers and answer the following we ask 392 tadpullers to give their best response to this
Starting point is 00:29:10 which Marvel or DC superhero has the best alter ego oh that took a long time to register I know right I'm going to say Clark Kent
Starting point is 00:29:26 Superman. So Superman. Show me Clark Kent. Ooh, down the list. Number three answer on the board. Two answers will beat it. Number three. Really? Yeah, that's crazy. I'm shocked by that. Yeah. I don't know why. That seemed like
Starting point is 00:29:42 the easy answer for number one. That was when I was going to go with too, but I guess I'll just go. DC was so much better at those kind of My personal favorite is going to be Batman's ultra-egro Bruce Wayne. All right. Show me Bruce Wayne, Millionaire Playboy. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Number one answer on the board. Man, that gives you. He's so broody. He is. He is so broody. Well, then you and your BioCowl and Broody Brian together at last. What's Batman so upset about? He's filthy rich.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Exactly. What's he got? Oh, my. parents died and everybody's seen it in about 11 different movies yeah my mom's he's got a butler and a cool ass car and a motorcycle an underage ward yeah he's fine yes yeah he's got an underage ward man what i wouldn't do for an underage ward oh this one might have come from you this could have been this definitely could have been yours he thinks he says this sounds familiar did i submit this i don't know who's i don't have a like when i get these suggestions
Starting point is 00:30:49 they come in the survey results so I have no idea who submitted it so I can't put any blame on anybody. Yeah. All right. So, BioCal. You got two answers already on the board. Eight left.
Starting point is 00:31:00 What you got? Who's got the best alter ego? What do you think? BioCal, what you got? I like Bruce Wayne because he's got all that money, but on the Marvel side, who's got all that money, Iron Man. Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:31:12 There you go. The Iron Man. Tony Stark got a heart of electricity. That's right. That's right. That's right. Former cocaine addict heavy drink. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's the actor. Never going to continue on. No, no. That was also the character as well. Did Tony Stark do cocaine? I didn't know that. Oh, I know about cocaine. He was the worst.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I knew about the drinking. Substance abuse problem. Yeah, that's true. Show me, Tony Stark. Number four. Alter ego. What don't you got? What don't you got over there, BioCal?
Starting point is 00:31:47 I got a few in the chamber. you don't have one. Yeah, I got a couple. I also liked, partly because we've been re-watching it, with Scott is She-Hulk. Oh, She-Hulk. Yeah. He-Hulk, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Jennifer Walters, the attorney at law. Jennifer Walters, there you go. That's a good one. All right. Show me She-Hulk! Oh, my gosh. Oh, man, I thought they would have, too. 12.
Starting point is 00:32:11 People liking the She-Hulk, but not as much as our top 10. People liking the She-Hulk. I'm guessing number two is probably Peter Parker, so let's get it over with. Yeah, that's what I was going to rip off that band-aid. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Number two. Do you have a band-yard to rip on? Scotty Young model of half Peter Parker, half Spider-Man. I thought you're going to pull a band-aid off. I was really excited. Oh, no. Yeah. They're like, rip that band-aid off, and Brian goes, oh, I actually have them.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Like, sweet, you're going to rip the band-aid off. Here's a band-aid. Here's the sound of me ripping it off. Ow! All right. Show me. Spider-Man. Number two.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Not great for points, though. Yeah, so five through ten are still available, then that's good. That's right. I know, we've got a tie. Yeah. Well, that's true. One plus four and two plus three.
Starting point is 00:33:02 That's true. Let's do Bruce Banner. Oh, sure. David Banner, if you're nasty. I hear you wouldn't like him when he's angry. That's what I've heard. I've heard about that guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Show me Hulk. number six you know they always they always talk he always says you're not going to like me when I'm angry but I'll be honest Bruce Banner's sad that's way worse it is when he's all sad and stuff yeah dude the credits are rolling I read a mad one yeah yeah good um all right oh now we're like you when you're mad we're in a weird zone here you've kind of pulled out all the A listers haven't you yeah feels like it I'm trying to think of somebody Oh, oh, how about Thor's alter ego? Oh, it's not my turn.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It's not your turn. Thor's alter ego, Thor and Thor. He used to have one. He did. He was Don Blake. Yes, he was Dr. Donald Blake, who, they completely redcombed that origin. Yeah, because it's dumb. No one said that, so we don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No one said that. It's dumb. They got rid of it. Let's go with, oh my gosh, why is this so hard now? That's because they don't want you to know their secret identities, God. That's why it's hard. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Let's do... I guess Wonder Woman. Let's do Wonder Woman. Let's get a woman on this list. My gosh, there's no women on here. What's her name? Diana, Diana, Prince. Linda Carter was the actress.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, well, no, no. She did such a great job portraying Wonder Woman. We could consider her to be an alter ego. All right. show me Wonder Woman Number 8. Good job.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, that's good points. Oh, I'm liking this lead except I'd like Biocow a lot and I'd like him to win. I'm seeing a lot of the JLA up here. I'm a little, yeah. Yeah, a lot of JLA up here.
Starting point is 00:35:03 There's power in that thing. Oh, his business. Okay, how about we try? Maybe I'll stay in there for a second and say the Flash. It's kind of on people's minds a little bit. Yeah, what's his alter ego? Barry.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Barry. Barry. Barry Allen? Barry Allen. Very good. That's one of them. There's others. Jay.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Oh, totally. What was the, the old flash with the big goofy helmet? Oh, I forgot his name. It's not Barry Allen, though. No, it's old flash. Old flash. Old flash. I call him, I call him F.T.D. Flash.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Ah, F. Murray, Abraham. Yeah, great. He does. He looks like the, yeah, Jay Garrick. Thank you, Merrick. There you go. All right. Show me of the Flash.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Oh, number 10, big money. Killing it. Oh, he's killing this, BioCow. Let me, let's do a little math here. 16 plus 10, 26. Scott needs to, you guys need now to run the board in order for BioCow to win the prize. New goal. There's only one way.
Starting point is 00:36:06 There's only one way. Yeah, new goal. Run the board. That's what we're doing. I blame the Tadpool for being sexist and putting Hulk at 6 and she Hulk at 12. rude i agree and then wonder woman at 10 or no sorry seven or whatever eight sorry nine flashes at 10 all those numbers are throwing me she's a she's a she's an la 10 but she's an amazon six yeah there you go rude snoo snoo all right let's do um snoo stew uh don't know i got
Starting point is 00:36:37 my dumb joke let's go um oh gosh uh people really like that Oliver Queen thing. So let's say Oliver Queen and Green Arrow. Sure. All right. Show me. He's trying to lose? You have failed this city. And I have failed this answer.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Oh, you have failed this. Feud. All right. Fair enough. Now, look, we can still run this board, fellas. Oh, yeah, we can. We can tell you. We can tell you get this. We can talk freely now because it's not going to matter if we get or he gets it. I don't care if I personally lose. I just won't put BioCal and
Starting point is 00:37:15 some prizes. Hey, how about some Steve Rogers with the Captain America? What do you think? Of course. I thought about Steve Rogers. It's a good, good origin story because he's like a billion years old now or whatever. Yeah. I agree. That's a good one. All right. Show me Steve Rogers. What? Come on. What? Do you people even like comic books? Only one person. Only one person actually said Steve Rogers really surprised me. Yeah. Is it because of the whole Nazi thing that came later on? Is that the pride people... He was a hydrant
Starting point is 00:37:49 that he liked... Oh, that, yeah, that's true. Possibly. He forgot about that alter ego. Yeah, I just say alter ego. I don't say secret identity because everybody knows Iron Man is Tony Stark. It's just an alter ego.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Right. Yeah. Okay, so they don't... Oh, yeah, that's true. NCEU-wise, he came out at the end of that movie as opposed to comics, I guess, where he hid a lot. So,
Starting point is 00:38:12 what do you guys think of Oh, shit, it just slipped my mind. The TV guy and Matt Murdoch, Matt Murdoch, he Oh yeah, Matt Murdoch, Daredevil's alter ego. Do we, Biocowc, do you feel all right about that one? If I say that one? It's up to you.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'm not playing with you. Well, that's true, but I'm trying to win for you. We want you to get those prizes in your hands, though. Yeah, damn it. Let's go, let's do that. Matt Murdoch. I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Sure. All right. Show me Daredevil. Matt Murdoch. Number five. Very good. That's a good one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Two answers left on the board. I'm terrified of these last two. Yeah. Well, we've seen a lot of the Captain of Marvel in the recent years. Are people into that? The Carol Danvers? I don't know. I'm worried they're too sexist in our group.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah, so She-Hulk man landed pretty low, right? Yeah. I really like Carol Danvers, but. Oh, shit. I don't want to lose this. All right. I'm going to say, um,
Starting point is 00:39:18 it's not villains at all, right? It's all heroes. Just heroes. It's whatever the sort of these people. It's whatever the tadpole, uh, said,
Starting point is 00:39:27 but I will tell you that everybody on here is a, is a superhero. They did good. They did good this week. They did pretty good. Yeah, I will say that two people said Thor and they're not, that also is not in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Um, did anybody, Peter Quill, I'm just saying it. Peter Quill.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Oh, there you go, Peter Quill. Oh, Star Lord. Star Lord, man. Star Lord. Star Lord. All right. Show me. Star Lord.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Shit! Yeah. Let's see if anybody... Gosh, dang it. I didn't even think about Star Lord. Yeah. I mean, it's almost like it to convince people that he's actually even Star Lord. Yeah, and it's not much of an alter ego, right?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, it's the same. I think everybody calls him Peter Quill anyway. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, that's a bad call. All right. So you guys each have one strike left. I'm going to help you out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Right now you can see that the answers are pretty evenly divided between DC and Marvel. And I will say that the last two answers follow suit. One is DC, one is Marvel, meaning that there are five Marvel characters and five DC characters. I got you. Okay. So that might help you out a little bit. All right. We was thinking about Chikala.
Starting point is 00:40:44 some Black Panther is what I was thinking about earlier. I know that's also popular. Did you say Chikala? You said Chakala, didn't you? Chalya. Did I say Chikala? That's what I said then. Is that what you heard? If you heard that, that's what I said. I can't speak Waccondon.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I'm not going to Wiconda shame you for how you're no, you say it however you want to say it. It's fine. I'm on my crappy microphone. I don't know what you guys hear. Oh, that's true. Yeah, it's the microphone's fault. Yeah. All right. Let's do that. Oh, Chikala.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Oh, and with Coca-Cola. Show me. Black Panther. Oh, come on. It's delayed. There we go. Like, click that thing in it. It delayed.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, Black Panther, not even in the top 20. What? Wow. Yeah. I don't know you people anymore. Because people probably didn't know how to spell Chachala.
Starting point is 00:41:40 That's a good. Chacala. I am so concerned about not getting this right I'm going to go You don't look for help from Tom Merritt, by the way If it's Steve Oh, is he in the chat If it's
Starting point is 00:41:58 DC's one left for DC Who would that be? All right, both of them have had recent Screen Big and small screen appearances All right, I'm going with Aquaman. Let's do Aquaman. There you go. That's a good one, Aquaman.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I don't know. Who else this would be? Arthur Curry. Is that really a good? Arthur Spicer. He's giving you, he's giving you a hint. He's saying, is that a good pick? Tell me what's cool about Arthur. Oh, shit. Deadpool's what I meant to say. It came out wrong. Deadpool. Yeah, that's pretty good, but nothing recent from Deadpool that, that, uh... Shit.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I mean, you're practically trying to, trying to shove it. You remember when you mentioned Carol Danvers? Yeah. That was a pretty good guess. Don't think on the Marvel side that character, but... Okay. The DC side. Oh, Shazam?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Oh, let's say that one. All right. Show me Shazam. So Billy Batson? You people went with Billy Batson? All right. I was going to say, peacemaker, maybe. Oh, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That's not bad. That's not bad. A homewander. Why don't you just give him the answer? I'm really trying. So, why don't you just give them the answer? So last one's Marvel, we know from PUR.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Okay. And he's also had a recent, a recent series. A series. And if I were to, I mean, you know, I had to keep things brief because putting everything on these family-fewed little squares would take a lot for this character.
Starting point is 00:43:49 A series. Oh, okay. A series? A series. Well, Loki's not a hero. I don't think I can help you any more than that without just handing it to me. You've done everything you can. You've done everything you can.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Done away, I'll take hints from you. Do you have one that you think Brian's having that here? Because I can't. really good question. There's two or three series. I don't even get Ibitt's hint either. I'm sure I'm going to get it later, but that's interesting. You will. You'll get it in. Yeah. That's a. I'll tell you the chat room is screaming moon night
Starting point is 00:44:20 for some reason. Oh, it can't be moon night. He's not that popular. But it's still good. I did like the moon night, though. Um, did it? Oh. Could it be moon night? All right. Moon night.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Let's do that. Let's do that. Yeah. That room seems convinced that it's moon night. Show me. Moon night. Oh, my gosh, dude. And I'll list Mark Specter, but I could list like 18 different names after Moon Night, which would be too much space for the... I got you.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I am. The chat definitely got your hint. Yes. They were... They picked up what I was putting down. They understood the assignment. They said, pardon me, sir, did you drop this? Yeah, nice job.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I just love Phil Spector's work with Moon Night. It was some of the best production of value that Moon Night. ever had and too bad he pulled out that gun and freaked out who else is on the bottom end of this thing I'm curious yeah let's continuing pass number 10 we've got Deadpool was number 11 Wade Wilson
Starting point is 00:45:23 Dazzler People said Dazzler Allison something I can't remember Dazzler's full name Over Black Panther Coca Cola Oh good laugh Did you just BioCow just
Starting point is 00:45:36 Rage quit Oh do we lose BioCount. We know how to get them stuff. I'm going to message him with the codes. Bad Girl, Ghost Rider, Green Lantern. Good. A bunch of different choices there. Martian Manhunter.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Squirrel Girl, Thor, Wolverine, or Logan. Beast. Martian Manhunter? Come on. He's awesome. I love that guy. He is amazing, but I don't think of an alter ego. You don't really think of it with an alter ego. My favorite is somebody said BlackBolt, black eager, boltagon.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Because he's got such a great alter ego. I'm just going to take the first five letters for my first name, and the four letters from my last name would be Black Bolt. I love that, actually. Yeah. I wish they'd be able to work. Christopher Smith. I don't know who Christopher Smith is.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Red Lantern. That's a one secret identity. They're trying to out themselves. Hong Kong fuey. I know. Dude, did Tom Merritt vote for Hong Kong Fuey? Because he loved that cartoon growing up. He's the number one.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He's the number one. Kung Fu Guy, right? Paul Bunyan, Plastic Man, Poison Ivy, Renew LaBeau, Robin, Spider Piggin. Stan Lee. Well,
Starting point is 00:46:52 Peter Parker, by the way. Peter Parker. Yeah, that's amazing. The spectacular spider ham. And the bombastic bag man, which I almost added to Peter Parker's numbers, but I didn't. Oh, I don't know what the connection is there.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Was that a Peter Parker thing? Bombastic bad man He was When he was He showed up to join the Fantastic Four They said no we're good We're four And they turned him away
Starting point is 00:47:19 And he didn't think Human Torch burned up his costume or something So they just gave him a Fantastic Four uniform And a paper bag To put over his Put over his head Wow
Starting point is 00:47:29 I hope that's the movie I hope that's the new movie Yeah that'd be great movie That'd be great Here's your treatment For Fantastic Four Yeah Kevin Fee or whatever
Starting point is 00:47:38 Good luck with that storyline well once again we have a winner that's awesome i'll play this congratulations you're a winner bio cow's not here to tell us about how he feels about his win but he is online to receive his prizes and he'll be getting those right after this or during this he's got them right now yeah very nice congratulations bio cow and grats to everybody else uh joey i'll make sure you're friend it up we can do this next um uh wednesday you can be our guy all right you've got you've got automatic in you're automatically in you're in like flin done away and I are in later with a little episode of something we call Play Retro video game show all about
Starting point is 00:48:13 old video games. And today we're going to be talking about the Oregon Trail. Brian and I both got dysentery to prepare for this event. So we're both very sick. We've been on the road. I've still got dysentery. Yep. I've also, I went across, I waddled across a river. It was freezing cold. I don't sure I'm not going to, I don't think I'm going to make it to Oregon. That's how much we're into Oregon Trail. So check that episode out today. It'll be up on the podcast, of course. And live today at 3.30 Mountain, sorry, 4 p.m. Mountain time today. New time. New time. Who this? Everybody. 4 p.m. a half an hour later than usual. Just going to make a little better buffer for most weeks when we have DT&S. It makes it a little tricky to get in there on time. Plus, I give Brian a little less craziness getting home and, you know, getting changed and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I like not running through the door and going, I'm coming. Hold on. Yeah, four feels good. Just a quick reminder that, yeah, we won't be, or I won't be here for a few next week because I'll be. heading towards the southeast meetup. Oh, is that Wednesday? I thought it was Thursday or fun. Oh, is that next week? It starts Thursday, but we're flying Wednesday to go to Savannah, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Oh, lovely. I like that. But I'll be around because I'm not leaving. I live by a road. We wanted a day in the most haunted city in the USA, which is Savannah, Georgia. They have oranges there. I got stuff, other stuff. You don't know anything, do you, Scott?
Starting point is 00:49:36 They got genteel. Just get back on the Oregon Trail. They got genteel southern folk. They got a really high, high visibility. They got one of the best schools around. That's true. They do. They do.
Starting point is 00:49:49 We got a giant airport, Delta Hub. It's dad. Yeah, it's good stuff. And a lot of really hot, sweaty weather. So enjoy that. Hey, Dunaway, I'll see you later for that. And go prepare. Go get sick and prepare you for the Oregon.
Starting point is 00:50:01 We're going to Oregon. By now. All right. Well done. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will be here. He's already in the chat. He'll be here physically.
Starting point is 00:50:08 and videoly. So you can tell us about some tech stories of the day. And then we'll go on from there. All right? So hold on to your butts. Brian plays a song and then we'll do all those things.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Sure. Let's go to a Berlin-based woman who you might think is from somewhere else based on her name. Her name is Ava Vegas, A-V-E-G-A-V-E-G-A-S. And you might think she's from Las Vegas, but she's not. Even though her full-length LP, Desert Songs, is just came out.
Starting point is 00:50:38 It has nothing to do with Las Vegas either. This is the first single from it. It's called Your Secrets With Me. Here's Ava Vegas. It appears blue eyes and the light of the moon. It is my father praise of the sun. We talk to white flowers I hope to embrace my naïve smile
Starting point is 00:51:22 You see that's for me, my heart Don't you worry that? Don't you worry that I have my heart We're in learning this all in love for whatever you felt when you went all the way I will never I will never tell anybody and trust me I love my heart I feel you close, you sleep tight in my arms The cosmic ground keeps us so warm The source of enlightenment
Starting point is 00:52:31 It made us fly so high I want to embrace my naïve smile You see what's with me, my heart Don't you worry that? Don't you worry that? I told her I had my heart We're running in this All I love for whatever you found
Starting point is 00:53:03 But when you went all the way I will never I will never tell anybody and trust me I love my heart A silent step And my world turned upside down
Starting point is 00:53:24 I enter the realm Of another wordly crown You showed me what's sitting in the dark You should and move me closer to the stars Your secrets with me, my heart Don't you worry that Don't you worry that I tell our head My heart
Starting point is 00:54:01 We're alone in this All in love For whatever you found When you went all the way I will never I will never Tell anybody And trust me a love
Starting point is 00:54:17 My heart It's new New as tomorrow It's pink Loving pink like love's first blush It's Kame Loving Pink Kame Hungry for a big honey taste
Starting point is 00:54:35 And we're back everybody Hey who was that one more time Sure one more time that was Ava Vegas From her brand new album Desert Songs That's the tune Your Secrets with me That's fantastic Yes Check it out, everybody.
Starting point is 00:55:02 All right, let's get ready for this. Kind of in a tough spot here, Tom. Sorry. Well, don't worry about it because he's here to answer any questions you might have. It's Tom Merritt, everybody, Ace Detect on all the dumb things that we call social media. And the host of the Daily Tech News show, the fantastic tech show that everybody loves. In fact, we're in the Thick of Experiment Week, which we'll probably get into a little bit. Tom Merritt, welcome back to the show.
Starting point is 00:55:24 How are you? Yes, all the dumb things. That's what I'm here for. All the dumb stuff. Hey, before we get into whatever's popping today, Experiment Week is a pretty cool thing. Do you want to explain people how that works and like, what's going to know with that? Yeah, so I'll give you the true story of the origins of Experiment Week.
Starting point is 00:55:46 It is mostly because a lot of the world takes August off. So it becomes a little harder to get guests. And the news slows down because of that. but also two years ago my sister was coming to town for the first time since before COVID and I wanted to
Starting point is 00:56:04 spend a little extra time with her and it gives us a little chance to have a break in the middle of the year we get one in December so it gives us a mid-year break
Starting point is 00:56:13 so we invented experiment week to say like hey let's try some new stuff out we'll still do daily tech headlines so what news does happen you'll still keep up to date but we'll try out some new material so the first year
Starting point is 00:56:26 the tech John which is still going strong and barbecue and tech also still going strong were two experiments that spun out into their own podcasts and people liked it
Starting point is 00:56:36 enough that we did it again last year and we're doing it again this year so each day instead of a regular episode of Daily Tech News show you get the Daily Tech headlines in the DTS feed
Starting point is 00:56:46 and an experiment so Monday it was quite a hit Roger Chang interviewing Kate Betelow about Tech TV So that was Roger's idea. He wanted to talk to her, and it seems like it was pretty successful.
Starting point is 00:57:05 People really liked it. Roger did a great job. Kate, of course, is awesome. So that could turn into something. It's still the middle of experiment week. We don't know for sure. But yeah, that's why we do it, is to try out new ideas. Well, I love it.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I think it's a very cool thing. And I don't know, I feel like the two-pronged approach, which is you guys get a very deserved break, you know. and you get some rad content. I don't know. I don't know how you could have done that better. It feels like a win-win for everybody. So nice job, Tom Merritt.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Well, thanks, boss. Well, listen, here, subservient employee of mine. What else is going on in the tech world? I'm sure something's brewing out there, even though you won't be there at two to talk about it. You'll probably find something in the headlines. What's going on? Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, I did daily tech headlines today. And one of the things that caught my eyes, this Wall Street Journal article about some scientists at the University of California, Berkeley, analyzing the brain activity of 29 patients who were undergoing brain surgery. So during the operation, they played, and by the way, during these operations,
Starting point is 00:58:08 they regularly scan brain activity, so that was one of the reasons they did it with people undergoing brain surgery. It gives them the ability to access brain waves without being invasive just for the experiment. They were already going to undergo brain surgery. surgery for an epilepsy treatment. So it was a way to say like, well, they already are undergoing the risk of the surgery.
Starting point is 00:58:31 While they're there, it does not increase the risk to do some extra scanning. So they did some scanning while they played one time another brick in the wall, part one. Oh, okay. And the reason they pick part one, if you don't know, part two is the one you usually hear on the radio. Yeah. Part one is something people are less familiar with. Familiar, because it sounds like part two, but less familiar with. So they wanted it to be something a little bit harder for the brain to process.
Starting point is 00:58:59 They took specifically activity recorded from the superior temporal gyrus in the auditory cortex. And we're able to run that through some algorithms that they developed and reconstruct without telling the algorithms what the original song was, right? They didn't spike the results. Reconstruct something that sounds recognizably like another brick in the wall part one. Weird. Do you want to hear it? Yeah, I do actually.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Can you play it? All right. Wall Street Journal has a little sample here, so here we go. Yeah, let's hear it. It's weird. It's not like a faithful reproduction. No, of course. You can tell what it is.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, the gist of that, the, I don't know, is that the chord, I guess. Yeah, that's, you immediately evoked it. I mean, you may have to tell me that. And there was, there was, you know, brick in the wall, like, again, I don't know if I would have recognized it, not knowing what song it was, but you could tell what it was. Yeah, mine would have been repeated over and over, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat. Is that part one or part two? That's part two, actually, I think. Part one is a trip, and obviously that's a good use case for this.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Also, perfect band to use for this? I can't think of a better example. Well, the scientists who did this are fans of Pink Floyd and picked this song particularly because we don't need no thought control while they're doing the ability to read people's thoughts, essentially. That's pretty good. So in terms of not practical application, but like moving forward what what is what is this do for them where where do they go next i mean
Starting point is 01:00:58 have they said what their ultimate goal is or it's just just purely to say we found a way to sort of read your thoughts well these are the kinds of questions that everyone asked so i'm not i'm not picking on you scott when i when i laugh at this but it's like uh scientists are in pursuit of knowledge for many reasons sometimes there is a practical end and use sometimes it's because we no, there are thousands of practical end uses to this development, even if we don't know specifically what they are. I personally think the ability to decode the brainwaves and understand what's going on is incredible.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And there are no end of uses, both ill and good, that you could get from them. My personal feelings on this are, because I'm a bit of an upwinger, that you should find out how to do things because someone's going to try to find out how to do this stuff anyway. And we should find out how to do things and all work on it so that we can stop the bad things from happening and use them for the good things. And being able to read someone's thoughts. I mean, just imagine the ability to turn someone who's paralyzed into a communicating individual again. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Someone in a coma, perhaps you would be able to find out what they're thinking and whether they can hear you and communicate with them. Like those are just two things off the top of my head that this kind of research contributes to. Yeah, I wonder if like I was thinking about Alzheimer's and dementia, if there's a way to tap into parts of the brain that still remember things or, you know, some of that stuff's just sort of behind a wall. Yeah, find out like maybe it's not that they can't remember. It's that they can't express what they can remember. Right. Maybe the interface is weird, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's fascinating stuff. But, yeah, go check it out. This is, I just did a search for it. It's all over the place. Apparently, this is a big deal. So go read all about it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, it's one of those impressive things. One of the scientists is like, yeah, I've been working on exactly the same thing for 30 years. No one was interested until I did a Pink Floyd song and now it captured everybody's imagination. Yeah, there's a lesson in that too about, I don't know, how to get noticed, I guess, for your research. But I love this kind of stuff. And I always wonder, like, what does a brain, even if it's not musically inclined, let's just say I want to know what the tone of Tom's brain is. Ah, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That would be interesting. Like, how discordant are the noises our brains make? Are they, or are they delightful and kind of have a bit of a melody to them? I don't know. I want to know more. It's a bit of a pop science, so I'm not sure how true it is, but there's the sort of factoid out there that we all see colors differently. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Or we might. Right. And so if we were able to see, like, oh, that's what orange looks like to Scott. That's weird. That's not what it looks like to me at all. Yeah, I would love to see that. Those kinds of things would be interesting, too. Because I could see you and I could have a whole conversation about red,
Starting point is 01:03:59 and you know what I mean when I say something's red, and I know conversely what you would mean by that, but maybe we don't see the same red. Right. But also describing red is almost impossible because red is just red. Yeah. You know? And it's in relation, like, well, it's a little like orange.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. It's like, well, okay, you're just defining it by another color in the spectrum. and then folks with various kinds of colorblind just do not agree what's red and what's green that's true they definitely don't yeah well that's fascinating all right well more great content like this can be found on all the feeds over there at Daily Tech News show
Starting point is 01:04:34 make sure you check out Experiment Week if you haven't been it's good stuff Tom Merritt is there anything else going on that we can tell people about so that they can go check out what you're doing yeah just staying on Experiment Week I am doing the experiment today and I will start in on it As soon as I'm done talking to Scott live here on Wednesday morning, it's news sports and weather is the idea. I am going to take the process I use for tech news
Starting point is 01:05:02 and apply it to the rest of the world to see what I get with. Like if I were to do this for all news, what would I end up telling you? And I'm going to do it in a different way than Daily Tech headlines or Daily Tech News show. I want to present it as if I'm reading the morning paper. Like if Tom were creating the morning paper from news on the internet, what would it sound like? That's what you're going to get. I love it.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Do a version in your 1930s accent. That's what I want. I'll throw a little 1930s accent. Yeah, I'll do that for you. I want some newsreel business. Well, that's great. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. And like I said, Ace Detect on all the social media things, even that dumb X thing.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Okay? All right. All the Twitters. All the Twitters. I'll see you then. All right. Oh, did this cut us off? No, it didn't.
Starting point is 01:05:49 We're good. No, I'm still here. That's great. Even had time to run and use the facilities. How'd your pee go? Was it a good pee? Everything came out okay. Oh, good. In the end. Good. It wasn't all bloody or anything like that. Oh, geez, Louise.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You know why? It's because I just saw that episode of Doep Sick where one of the investigator, DA, people, has cancer during the dope sick series. And how he knows is one day he's peeing and it's all coming out red. And I just thought of that. I got to stop watching stuff like. that at night. It's going to mess me up for the following day. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. It's not good. Not good at all. All right. Well, let's do recommendals. I'm so glad you're watching my recommendals, Scott. It feels like Christmas. Oh, I love your stuff. I have to admit, though, the path that I took on this was your honor.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So I watched your honor based on Brian. Then this dude, this actor who was also in Fargo season three, is amazing. And I went, well, I'd like to follow more. And I went, oh, wait, he was in dopesick. Someone recommended that too. I'm going to finally watch Dobsick. It's really good. I don't care how you get there. I'm just glad you do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Michael Keaton is so good in that. God, he is so good. And we get that girl who was in, remember there was a series that had Merritt Weaver. Right, she was unjustified as well. Yes, and they didn't believe her that she had gotten assaulted, sexually assaulted. and she had two DA's. Yeah, so good.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Anyway, she's amazing, as always. She's never not good. I'd watch her in anything. Speaking of which, someone I'd watch in anything. Well, what do you recommend? I would watch Nicole in anything. Nicole, it sounds creepy. I don't mean it to.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Is it the voice? It sounds like the good place, chick. Yes, that is who it is. Is it her? Is that who it? Okay, I have no idea. Yeah, I think you confirmed that a few weeks ago, and it's, oh, geez. No, you can't remember her name either.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yeah, everyone's name. I want to say Kristen Stewart, but I know that's wrong. Kristen Bell. That's it. That is her, isn't it? Yes. You captured it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:08:10 We did this. We've already been through. We've been through this. We've been through this. Did I use it? It's your clip. You made the glove. Did I get it from her, or did I get it somewhere?
Starting point is 01:08:18 I don't know where I got it. I got it. I mean, not from her, but like, I can't remember where I captured it. got it from her but who knows too many files too many things in my head hey nicole it's good to have you here randy's out today he's got a orientation thing for his son at school so he forgot about it oh okay we're doing that soon oh my goodness yeah you guys are see we're next week for kids here we are too we are too okay we're meeting the teacher tonight oh fun are you uh are you uh are you all geared up to like give them heat and say ah what are you going to do to my kid are you a good teacher like how how i guess how scrutinizing are you in that first meeting uh I
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm not because I used to work at a school. Oh, yeah. I get it. I get it. That's good. No, that's a good perspective to have because, you know, a lot of people don't. They think of teachers as just like, well, they have to, they're babysitting my kids for seven hours. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Unfortunately, yes. But I think there's a lot more people like me out there too. But it's like the one, you know, the squeaky wheel, right? So I try to do the gift card. and help out where I can and, you know, I get it because guess what? I'm trying to do homeschool with my other one and holy, holy, moly. Yeah, it's a lot, right? Holy moly.
Starting point is 01:09:36 People think homeschool is just like you, a legal pad, a chalkboard and snacks. It's not. Right. It's so much more than that. I'm exploring. I mean, there's so many options out there now. There's like this thing called out school. and then there's a cube you're up.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And you can like, it's really cool because these kids can, like if it's not working for them in public, you can really create an amazing class schedule online for kids nowadays. So more than ever. And that's what we're doing. That's awesome. Which is it for? Mateo. Mateo.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Okay, cool. Yeah. He had some, he had a lot of, he has a lot of anxiety and some health issues. lately so we're trying an alternate path and it feels weird well somebody who was an anxious kid and and faced with very little solutions for that sort of thing when I grew up because when I was a kid you know we're talking mid 70s to early 80s they didn't have any real solution like this for us yeah and it was all and homeschooling of any kind was super stigmatized mm-hmm still is today a little bit but it's better than it used to be oh you have somebody in the chat that works his wife works
Starting point is 01:10:51 for out school oh no way that's awesome hook up. Yeah. Yeah. Get with Nicole. Seriously. Hooking up. There's some amazing stuff. So it's just a matter of finding the schedule, getting the classes, and doing it. So we're doing it. Well, all right then. Good luck on all of that. I can't wait to hear how it goes. What's your favorite? What's your, what's your favorite thing you're going to teach? Do you know? I'm not teaching. I'm not, I'm not. Oh, you're just setting up the online bit. Okay. I'm the, I'm the enforcer. Are you going to walk around with a dust buster?
Starting point is 01:11:28 With the ruler? There's something that happens with most kids as they kind of go into their pre-teen, teen years where the parents just become stupid. Like, we don't know anything. And so I tried to do a 3D printing class with him and two of his classmates. The two classmates were amazing. I was teaching they were learning they were doing and he's just like whatever mom yeah whatever mom it's hard sometimes though because you're the mom right so I was like okay yeah I don't I can't I can't teach you kid yeah but you can enforce you can definitely enforce and that's the key
Starting point is 01:12:05 exactly exactly that's awesome so um all right well let's let's get to this I think we have so um I don't I don't think I have a clip for you or from you do I have a clip from you I did I'm sorry yeah it's in the chat Oh, there it is. I see it now. Okay. Let me pull. Let's go ahead and pull that up and then Brian will still do yours first. I'm just going to have this ready. Brian, explain your deal. What did you watch? And let's... Sure. So mine is something that Tina and I've been anxiously waiting to see when it finally arrived on streaming last week. We immediately jumped on this. And if you're a film sack listener, you heard that moment when I found out it was available on streaming and said that I was probably going to watch it and probably going to. to do it for recommendals, and so I'm doing it for recommendals. Awesome. Here's your clip. I just thought that maybe we could spend some time with each other. I'm not spending
Starting point is 01:12:56 time with you. You're disgusting. Well, a lot bigger than I was since the last time you saw me. I'm not talking about what you look like. You'd be disgusting even if you weren't this fat. You'd still be that piece of shit dad who walked out of me when I was eight.
Starting point is 01:13:17 All because he wanted to to f*** one of his students. Can I have one of these? Yeah. I could say it's been a long time. I just thought that maybe we can get to know each other. I don't even know why I'm here.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I can pay you. You want to pay me to spend time with you. And I can help you with your work. It's what I do for my job. I can help you pass your classes. You teach online? Yes. Your students know what you look like?
Starting point is 01:13:56 I'll keep the camera shut off. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. I assume this is the whale. That is so weird we're just talking. It's so weird that we're just talking about online school. Yes, exactly. He's an online school teacher. That's The Whale.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It came out last year that Brendan Frazier, of course, in the role that got him an Academy Award. well-deserved. He is so fantastic in this. And there are five people in the film. All five are fantastic. This is, so a couple things I want you to know going in, and I don't want to give anything away, but that clip kind of tells you that Brendan Fraser's character, Charlie, you've all seen probably clips or a photo, he's morbidly obese and is kind of in danger of congestive heart failure and is well aware of it. And kind of is reluctant to do anything about it.
Starting point is 01:14:53 His daughter, he's been trying to connect with, trying to reconnect with. That's who you're hearing right there. That's an actress named Sadie Sink. And everybody here probably knows her from Stranger Things. She's Max Mayfield. Oh, that's why her voice is so freaking familiar. Yes. And she is so good in this.
Starting point is 01:15:16 My gosh, she's fantastic in this. I don't think there's anybody in this that isn't really good. It's Heng Chow, who the first thing I think of with Heng Chow is Watchman. She's a Thai actress who was in downsizing. She got a nomination for Best Supporting Actress for this, for The Whale. inherent vice watchman homecoming the night agent uh the menu um she's in a lot of stuff um really really talented she's she deserves she deserved at least the nomination that she got for uh um for supporting actress um so a couple more things i want to tell you that the whole thing takes place in charlie's
Starting point is 01:16:10 apartment and uh Darren Aronofsky the director wanted to have that feeling of kind of claustrophobia and discomfort as you're watching this. The film is also in 3-4 format. So first thing Tina and I started, like, when we're watching this, we're like, oh man, I wonder if there's a version
Starting point is 01:16:29 that's widescreen. Why do we get this version? And then did a little looking up and it's like, oh, no, he intentionally did that. Also to kind of keep you feeling a little bit on edge when you're watching it. Wow. I did not know that. That's interesting. That was a thing that West Anderson
Starting point is 01:16:45 talked about with the hotel one. Oh, Budapest Hotel. Budapest Hotel was like really because they kept changing aspect ratios throughout the film. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And it was to create not only a sense of time, but it was like also, oh, we're compressed here or we're wide here or whatever. So it sounds like that. That's right, Graham. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:17:05 four three, not three, four, but you get the idea. You know what I mean. Yeah, old school TV. Exactly. Yeah, we really enjoy this. This wasn't, this was surprisingly uplifting for kind of what you expect the content to be. I mean, it's, it's a sad story, but there are surprising, uplifting moments in this
Starting point is 01:17:30 thing. The character, Charlie's character, Brendan Fraser makes this character both sympathetic, but also one of the most positive outlook characters, almost to his, detriment, almost seeming like he is unaware, but he's very, very positive. He's very hopeful, and I think that adds such a great level of depth to a character that could just be a one-note. I'm massively overweight. I'm sad. That's the character.
Starting point is 01:18:08 He brings in this whole extra layer to the character that is just brilliant. Yeah, the other major player in this is Samantha Morton And we've seen her in things like pump up the volume A lot of stuff, obviously that was one of her first roles But she's been in a ton of stuff You know Samantha Morton from a lot of a lot of different things Or wait, was that not maybe she's not the Samantha that was in Pump Up the Volume
Starting point is 01:18:42 I'm looking at her list she was in Minority Report Brian Dunaway She was Agatha So she was one of the three I think she was the Oh she's the main one That was the main precog Yeah the one that screamed real loud
Starting point is 01:18:55 When she knew somebody was coming And Tom Cruise didn't know Or something when they were coming out to the house Yep exactly She's great Schenectady New York Or I'm sorry Synodosh New York
Starting point is 01:19:05 Not Schenectady That's completely different Yeah so Oh Fantastic Beast And where to find them She was in Yeah, she's very good. People have seen her.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Samantha Memphis. Thank you, Red Fraggle. Yeah, different Samantha altogether. Sure. There's a lot of them. This one is our. There's a lot of Samantha's. This one is neither of them are mine.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Neither of them are yours. Great. So the whale is showing where? We're streaming on Paramount Plus right now. And I think Showtime as well. So if you have either of those things, it's that whole combo deal between those. But Paramount Plus is where you'll, where you'll go for it.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I've been wanting to see it, so I'm excited about this. It was a little middling in terms of reviews at the time. Oh, yeah, here it is. 64% from reviewers, but 91% audience. And a lot of them are saying, if only the movie matched the performance of the amazing performance, like they're all praising Brendan Frazier, but most of these reviews are like, just the movie's not as good as he is in it or something. Yeah, and maybe that is the case, but I'd still say, you know, if his performance,
Starting point is 01:20:11 is a 10, I still would give the movie like a 7 or an 8. I still think it's a very good it's a very good film, but his performance in it dwarfs everything else around it, no pun intended, but because it's just so, it's just so
Starting point is 01:20:27 good. I've never seen an Aranowski movie I didn't like, but I also have not seen Mother. So it's entirely possible that if I saw Mother, I would not like it. I've heard things about that. We liked Mother, but it definitely had some weird, some weirdness. to it. It's, it's, uh, that's a movie that's completely done with metaphor. Um, as opposed to,
Starting point is 01:20:50 you know, this or, or, or, um, uh, Requeen for a dream or any of his other. Yeah. Oh, rec room for a dream. Holy shy. Yeah. That's some stuff. Man, that's some stuff. Um, yeah. Cool. Watch it. It's really good. It's the whale. And, uh, probably not for kids. Um, I don't think kids would enjoy it anyway. So, yeah. But, uh, but, but watch it. Uh, Watch it with your adults. Watch it with all your adult friends. I like it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:21:16 All right, Nicole, we got something coming up for you here. Tell me about this and I'll play your clip. It is a topic that I experienced because I was part of this craze. And it has been turned into a drama movie. I will tell you that it's a, I'm sure it's an over-exaggeration. it also stars Zach Galaphanacus and this is my second movie in a row
Starting point is 01:21:44 that I'm coming to Zach Oh yeah no kidding Last week it was Ron's gone wrong And this week is this one All right I'll play it by We also talked about him yesterday Brian
Starting point is 01:21:56 With that He's not in this clip Right We talked about him In that comedians of comedy Or whatever I talked about Oh that's what it was He was the comedians of comedy
Starting point is 01:22:05 Yeah We're coming up Gallifanakis Every day here on the show All right, here's the clip. I'm going to hit play. Here we go. If it's any consolation, everyone knows you're the one really running the show.
Starting point is 01:22:20 It isn't. I created and built this company. And I have no rights, no salary claims. How is that even possible? Because the system isn't designed for people like us. I spent my whole life taking care of people. And I thought Ty was the one person who didn't need that. Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It seems dark and deep. Tell me more. What is this? So, this is actually a comedy. I think it's on Apple Plus. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I mean, it's a, it's a dromedy. It's about the Beanie Baby Bubble, and it's called the Beanie Bubble. I think what I love most about that clip that I share with you is the one comment. These movies are getting ridiculous. Soon we'll be seeing about hungry, hungry hippos and shoots and laughs. An espionage movie about Hasbro. Yeah, I'm in. I'm all in.
Starting point is 01:23:31 I mean, look, these stories, who's ever heard of the story behind the Beanie Babies? I never have. I'm interested in this. Because Ty Warner is a weird genius that this movie, in fact, it's so far off of what actually happened that the only person in the movie that actually they kept, the name was Ty Warner. Everybody else's name has been changed because I think they realize that they're kind of embellishing. but they do, I've watched, I think I recommended the Beanie Media documentary. I think that was on Hulu a while back. And that really does look at the rise of the Beanie Babies as investments
Starting point is 01:24:22 and the rise of the internet and eBay. Like there's a lot, I mean, it's ridiculous that we're talking about Beanie Babies. But the Beanie Baby and Ty Warner, It was like the right time, the right place. He had the right people around him. And this movie kind of shows the women around him that helped create this huge company and industry and like almost frenzy to get the, I mean, I was part of it. I would go to my local hallmark store searching for Beanie Baby, just looking for Beanie Baby. I had a crazy collection of beanie babies that I just sold years, year.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I mean, I wouldn't, finally, Mark was like, he didn't get rid of the beanie babies. I'm like, all right, fine. But here's what's crazy. If you go on TikTok and you look at Beanie Babies, there's a whole group of TikTokers that they're creating the frenzy again around these damn stuffed animals. Oh, geez. Yes. So this story is a dramatization of that documentary. Beanie Mania, which looks at Ty Warner.
Starting point is 01:25:36 And the movie kind of goes back and forth. And so it's like 1980, 1983, and then it's 1990 something. And so they kind of go back and forth. It's a little, the pacing is a little off. But I think they're trying to show these three women that Ty knew in his life and how they were instrumental in creating the company and the craze. I'll say this, I look at screens, like just screenshots from the film, and Zach Galfinacus is unrecognizable.
Starting point is 01:26:12 He is, without that beard, mustache and beard, man, he is, yeah. Absolutely wild to me. If you look up pictures of Ty Warner, you quickly see that he enjoyed facelifts. Oh, yeah, really? Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. And so even in this movie, there's a little.
Starting point is 01:26:33 whole scene about Zach Gallifunakis and getting facelifts and like what happened with who actually created the beanies themselves and the poems that went with them
Starting point is 01:26:48 and then who got credit and like it shows Ty Warner is a very manipulative person and in that clip you heard Elizabeth Banks she is actually his business partner that started the company with him and then later she finds out that she has no she has no
Starting point is 01:27:09 she has nothing as far as showing her ownership in that company but she helped him build that company wow so i'm looking at uh it's funny she went right from directing cocaine bear to acting in this she's so busy um but yeah it's i look at that picture of galaphanacus and it's just i can't even see him it's just right crazy to me all right man i wish i was rich for my beautiful Beanie babies. There's no way. They're just, they're not stuffed animals. They're just stuffed animals. Exactly. We're all marketing. We're all collectors and we all have these high hopes that are, you know, foiled alternate version issue of Deadpool 12 is going to be worth something someday. Yeah. Once in a while you get lucky, but these things, I think you're, as far as I know, nobody's, nobody's sitting on a, you know, a gold mine of Beanie Babies now. Well, there's one in particular that I know it's Peanut the Elephant. He's a, he's a,
Starting point is 01:28:03 blue elephant and he's apparently very very rare but again actual peanuts but it it kind of talks about this um this idea of creating scarcity when it doesn't need to be there right so how do we trick us trick a group of people to say oh there's only so many of these and you see like the first scene actually does happen in real life um but they kind of made it more so the first scene is a semi-truck getting into an accident and beanie babies just flying everywhere and then like everybody's stopping and to to scoop up the beanie babies and they're fighting and so while the accident did the accident did happen it didn't people didn't stop and fight to oh really sensationalized yeah yeah yeah so so yeah um need to see it's it's it is it's entertaining um
Starting point is 01:29:03 And it's kind of cool to look back at that time, the NFTs of the 90s. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and there's, you know, like you said, stuff like this still goes on. Post Malone just spent $2 million for a magic card for that one ring magic card. We were just talking about that. I went to, I went to Keynes and I'm like, why is there, why are there post Malone Keynes Cains? Do you know why?
Starting point is 01:29:27 It's because he opened his own canes here in Salt Lake City. That's the whole thing. And that location is all pink. and mov and I still haven't gone, but I want to go there bad. Oh, funny. And apparently he's in there like a couple of times a week now, so I might even get a sighting. Might see him. Oh, interesting. So you know what this reminds me of too? I like our collector mindset. Do you remember an episode in amazing stories? Remember that Steven Spielberg show? Loved it. There was an episode where it's just a lot of those episodes stuck to me. And it was a guy and he was told to basically
Starting point is 01:30:03 save everything and he would be rich and he ended up living in like nothing but he kept everything and then you know 30 40 years and he's an old man and then he has all these collectibles and that's how he becomes rich oh wow yeah i mean it doesn't happen if you if you get the right thing and you don't even know it until you're right until time passes right so yes and that's what it kind of was showing like he had like all these old pennies and like he just saved everything everything and and then he was like I thought it was supposed to be rich and then he has all the all the collectible stuff so Brian what if getting rid of all these um funco pops is what if we screwed up what if we're those going to make us right someday maybe I'm all right with that I feel better getting
Starting point is 01:30:49 rid of them I thought they were were they I mean it's funco I heard a story that they were destroying funcos um they were they have overstock on stuff the story was that they were destroying stuff that couldn't move so it's a bit like yeah it's like burying the ET cartridges for the yeah exactly it's a little like that yeah yeah you know jlist characters that from movie franchises no one was ever gonna buy there are some of those like when i sold my um i forget which one it even was but i sold one that was apparently sort of rare i got 60 bucks for it's not bad oh nice it's not it's not it's not you know it's not making me rich but i sold one any day for a decent price so i think there's still there are plenty of little examples of what beanie babies was
Starting point is 01:31:33 but now it's tons of different things and it's so prominent that you don't you don't think of it in the same way because that was like a legitimate like moment in time whereas now it's like everybody does it I don't know if you can blame that on Beanie Babies I don't know if they were the first but it feels like comic book collectors would say we were the first so right I don't know baseball I would say baseball cards yeah there you go of course good call that's actually more that's probably closer and those are still if you have the right ones those are still extremely decorative I still have all my baseball cards Nice. One day they'll be worth, I don't know. Tens of dollars, tens of hundreds of dollars. Tens of dollars. That's all my stuff will be worth. All right, there you go. That's the Beanie Bubble, or currently on Apple TV Plus.
Starting point is 01:32:21 We'll put that at quicktmS.LI, of course. And I found out the Beanie Mania documentary you mentioned is on Max currently, and I'm going to be watching that as well. Because that is interesting to me. all right that dives into the the women in chicago that started the websites that put value on them that were kind of like tie warner wanted to sue them oh he was like thinking oh i better protect my copyright right so to watch both is kind of interesting i found an old vhs thing on i think tictox where i first saw it and then i saw the whole things on youtube but they're basically old tapes that were made by somebody to say, do I have a fake one or is it a real beanie baby?
Starting point is 01:33:06 So it was like how to detect a counterfeit? I had so many fake ones. Yeah. It was a real thing, man. It's crazy. That cabbage patch, there's like a bunch of 80s examples, 90s examples of stuff that was just like, what the hell is going on? I have to send you a very funny TikTok of Mateo going to the local Pokemon store
Starting point is 01:33:23 or Kids Trade Night. And they look at all the cards. and he had the most fake cards of any kid ever Oh no Oh shoot That's a bummer Where does he get
Starting point is 01:33:36 Where do you get some fake cards You trade them with other kids or something Or is that? I mean he's just trading So parents are going on Amazon You can get like Oh sure A whole stack for like 20 bucks
Starting point is 01:33:47 That's wild So yeah All right Well here is mine Our final recommendal of the day It is in a movie from 2007 and I'd never seen it. And when I saw Netflix telling me
Starting point is 01:33:59 that it was only going to be there for a little bit longer, I thought, well, I better consume it now because I don't know when I'll see this. So here's your clip. Mr. Congressman. Joanne Herring speaks very highly of you. Oh, well. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Thank you. These are two of my brightest advisors when it comes to the problem of the Soviets. This is Brigadier Rashid. How do you do you do? Pleased to meet you. Colonel Mahmood. How do you do?
Starting point is 01:34:25 Pleased to meet you. you please come you you must be thirsty can we get you a drink oh actually i'd love a glass of ice and any kind of whiskey rye canadian i'm sorry congressman we don't have alcohol in the presidential residence of course all right doesn't sound familiar it is tom cruise or tom cruise tom hanks wrong tom hanks uh talking to the leadership of Pakistan, or sorry, Afghanistan, in the movie Charlie Wilson's War, which up until about a week ago, for whatever reason, well, probably because they collaborate so much, but I was sure Spielberg directed this. I don't know why I thought that. It's Mike Nichols who directed it. He's a fame director as well and known for all sorts of stuff, including, oh gosh, help me think of the graduates, a big one. Green card is the thing that first comes to mind with, Yeah, Green Card, graduate, the Birdcage, love the Birdcage. All those are much better movies than Green Card.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Yeah, that's true. Bloxie Blues, Working Girl, Silkwood. I mean, the dude's a legendary dude. He died some years ago. But anyway. And Green Card's Peter Weir, by the way. Never mind. I even have the wrong director on Pinkard.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Oh, that's a, that must have been a dark day for Peter Weir because all his movies are good, but that one's not that great. That one's not that great. Anyway, Mike Nichols, amazing director, and I figured that out. I went, well, I'll watch this. let's see this. This also had Julia Robertson, Philip Seymour Hoffman in it. And Hoffman steals every scene he's in, which was typical for his career, it feels like. He was extremely good as Gust a Ravacodos. I think it's how you say the guy's name. It's a very Greek name.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Gust is an amazing name with a tea. Gus. Yeah. Anyway, it is really good. It reminded me a little bit, not quite as fourth wall breaking. Well, not at all fourth wall breaking, but you know how the big short, uh, was a way of showing a historic thing, but doing it in a way that you could consume it. Very digestible, yes. And there's some comedy in there to kind of lighten things up and all that. That's what this is, I think, for this.
Starting point is 01:36:36 There's a real story about the character named Charlie Wilson. He was a congressman during the late 70s and early 80s. And he basically was on all the right committees so that he could take it on himself to help fund the Afghan resistance. against the Soviet invasion and is credited for essentially winning that war for Afghanistan at the time. Things are all very different now. And of course, what Afghanistan became later is a whole other issue. And this movie does sort of touch on that. Because again, it comes out in 07. We know a lot about the Taliban and Afghans, what's going on in Afghanistan in 07 because we've invaded that
Starting point is 01:37:17 country and supposedly kick them out. Even now, there's news about how the Taliban is back to their old selves and completely fortified again since we pulled out. And this movie touches on those issues of whether anybody, US or otherwise, should even go into places try to create change or regime change or, you know, even if it's all with a, even if it's the best intentions, should we even do that? Because we end up kind of effing it up worse when we leave or sometimes it's worse off than when we got there, like, and not just sometimes most of the time. It's kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:37:54 So it asks those questions, but does so in a way that is like Brian just used the word digestible. I think is a good word for it. Charlie Wilson was a very interesting dude who was, he was a Democrat from Texas. It was back when most of the South were Democrats. That's changed quite a bit since then. But a very different kind of Democrat. And he was kind of a weasel. He was sleeping around.
Starting point is 01:38:23 He was, you know, did some drugs in a hot tub with some models and this kind of stuff. But it was kind of like, you know, tapped away, kind of kept hidden from people. Nobody really knew about it. But he felt really strongly about this, really wanted to help those people. Amy Adams is great in it as his assistant. Julie Roberts plays this rich Texas woman who is big into philanthropy and she wants to help the Afghans as directly as she can. There's a bunch of stuff with her. Emily Blunt in one of her first roles.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Really? Oh, wow. This is like a cavalcade of stars. A-list and current A-list stars. Peter Garrity. I know you like him. He's in a bunch of stuff we see. Anyway, it's excellent. It's really good. I remember at the time people raved about it, and they were right to do so. It's only on Netflix for probably another, probably the end of this month, is my guess, is when it goes away. So if you haven't ever seen this movie, it's worth picking up. It holds up. It didn't have, like, it didn't feel like it aged. the battle scenes which are brief all looked super realistic and if you want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman and one more thing he was great in
Starting point is 01:39:24 then this would be it's Charlie Wilson's war currently on Netflix cool I'm surprised I've never seen this and to all the accolades that it receives yeah you should I think it got a best picture nomination that year didn't win but it was up there anyway it's very good Brian I think you'd like it and all of you as well check
Starting point is 01:39:45 quicktms.L.I for this and all the titles we talked about today. And Nicole, is there anything else you'd like to say before we end this segment today? I sent you the picture of the Mateo. The TikTok, yeah. Are you this? Oh, it's cute. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I'm bringing it up. Man, this kid got old quick, you know? Yeah, he did. He did. Oh, look at him, waving. He's got a little bag of cards. Dude, this is the best life right here. Like a fake Pokemon cards.
Starting point is 01:40:14 He's like, yeah, fake Pokemon, huh? I mean they're real to me man he would say you know they're just they're just into what they got look at him waving he's a cute kid he is he's a little he's a miniature mark in like every way you just see him go oh my gosh mark is genetically uh responsible for like it anyway uh Nicole have a good wait oh yeah go ahead oh good week you said have a great week oh they said oh wait Cool. You too. I know. That's what I heard, too.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Oh, wait. Oh, wait. I have one more thing. Okay, I kicked her out. Oh, wait. Have a great week. Good selection this week, though. Good stuff. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to check all these out. Something for everybody. And it is funny. We were just talking about something you talked about,
Starting point is 01:41:05 and then my movie had kind of a connection to that. What was it? Oh, there were two Charlie's. That's what it was. Oh, right. Yes. If only Nicole could have planned, you know, back when we would do that all of our recommendals had to be fit either a certain theme because we had those cards
Starting point is 01:41:22 that we'd play the game with. Yeah, it's all, if you don't have Charlie, then get out. Exactly, Charlie or bust. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll pretend Randy had a Charlie, but he couldn't be on it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:41:32 How about that? Sure. That's going to do it for... Charlie's Angels, one and two. That's it for us. I'd like to remind you that this show is propered. properd is propped up by you is what i meant to say
Starting point is 01:41:47 propered we are properd over at patreon.com slash tms you know the drill you know what you get out of it go check it out i'm putting up new art right now for the month and uh can't wait to do that i want it to be in your hands if you want to have that sort of thing and uh receive all the other benefits you get from being a patron patreon.com slash tms all else can be found at frogpans.com slash tms or sly ash i don't know why i said slyash i can't talk today apparently so i'll just end this and say hey brian why you play us a song so I can reset my freaking vocabulary.
Starting point is 01:42:18 You go reboot and I'll take it from here. Kevin, also known as I-Corps in our chat room, wrote in and said, Hey, Snoopy and Bald-Headed Kid, it's been one year since my sister left us. Snoopy and Charlie Brown were a big part of our childhood, thus your nicknames for this email. Rather than request a sad song, I'd like to hear something happier. If you have time, could you play Linus and Lucy by Baila Fleck and the Flecktones or any fun cover of that song? It would also be nice to have a tender crisp bacon, cheddar, Ranch Burger,
Starting point is 01:42:46 Gloved the Obo, signed Kevin. It's been a while. Let's see, it would be this one. Dump. No, don't do that guy. Here it is. The Tendicus, bacon, cheddar ranch.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Got it. Nice. All right. Got it. Yeah, this is from Bala Fleck and the Flecktones. It comes from his album, Jingle All the Way,
Starting point is 01:43:02 which, of course, has a bunch of, as you'd expect, Christmas songs on it. But since Linus and Lucy, that song was also part of the Charlie Brown Christmas. It's included here as well. Here's Linus and Lucy by Baila Fleck and the Flecktones.
Starting point is 01:43:17 We'll see you guys on Monday. Don't forget, we got couch party this weekend. More the She-Hulk there going on tomorrow for patrons. And then Film Sack this weekend, we're doing Tom Hanks and Emily Blunt, speaking of the Tom and the Blunt. That's right. Tom Hanks doing his own stunts and live, die, repeat. Live-die repeat. Wait, was that what it was called?
Starting point is 01:43:41 Yeah, it is. No. It's a held edge of tomorrow. That's right, because the book was called. live die repeat yeah and then people you know it should have been called lived i repeat because that's a far better name completely agree and there's rumor of a of a sequel which i'm very excited yes yeah anyway that's this weekend thank you all for listening we'll see you then I'm not
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