The Morning Stream - TMS 2509: Grippage

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

I'm Going To Say Testicle. No Birthday, No Elaine and No Lt. Yar! A pain in the Taint. The Band has terrible SEO. Tired Swimmers won't save the world. Love the Sho Jo. Why'd You Have to Go and Make Things So Unrelated? Pak-n-Slay. I don't remember story Ceeeeeeeeeee. Dead or Pregnant or Both. I love Shirley...AAAHhhhh! Fixing forgotten birthdays. My Spinach Had a Frog. Spinach Isn't Supposed to Have Frogs. Eat some kimchi and happy late birthday. This Therapy Thursday with Wendi Was Filmed in Front of Scott's Internal Live Studio Audience and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Why'd you have to go and make things so unrelated? Packin's sleigh. I don't remember stories. see dead or pregnant or both i love shirley fixing forgotten birthdays my spinach has a frog spinach isn't supposed to have frogs eat some kimchi and happy late birthday this therapy thursday with windy was filmed in front of scott's internal live studio audience and more on this episode of the morning stream it seems that you are no better a judge of human beings than you are a specimen of one

just on a brief inventory i'd say that you could use yourself a shave and a spider disposition. Why, the beast has the appetite of a behemoth. Just this very morn, I found him with his nose buried in my nuts. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream, Gads the Baby. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for August 17th, 2023. I just realized, it's not that I didn't remember the year. I just realized my brother's birthday was two days ago and I forgot to say anything. Oh, no.

Which brother? My brother, Matt, my Korean brother. Oh, no. Yeah, completely forgot. You know what? Let's do it now on the air. I'm pulling up his text. Watch this.

Oh, good. Excellent. We're going to fix this in real time, Brian. I wonder if you're going to say the text out loud as you type it. I'm going to say, happy late birthday. brother I mean you could just use the speak to text function

not even type anything if you're going to say it while you That is true, that is true All right, I said eat some kimchi And I'll talk to you later All right, so that should That should take care of that Hopefully

Oops I think I feel like that I feel like you've resolved that issue Oh yeah there's no problem with me Being two days late on Matt Matt doesn't care He forgets my birthday every year So it doesn't matter

Fair All right I had We gotta get this one out It just has to come out fast and be part of this. Yeah. Our discussion right now is going to be this because I need to understand what's wrong with my brain. Or I need a theory as to what maybe happened because I'm not 100% sure it's just in my head. In fact, I'm, I don't know.

I'm not a conspiracy guy at all. But I think something's going on here. So I had a really weird experience with a Seinfeld episode, which we watch all the time. I've seen every episode of Seinfeld multiple times. many, many times, and I enjoy it, and I recognize episodes for what they are, and I always kind of know what the A, B, sometimes C story is. It's not a problem for me, normally. But last night, or sorry, not last night.

Night before last night. I didn't talk about it yesterday. Night before last night, we're watching an episode. And it's the Festivus one. Okay. Very memorable. Okay. Yes.

You remember Festivus and the rest of us. And let me see if I can tell you the, the B story. is the woman that doesn't look good in every kind of light. Correct. You are correct. What is the C story, Brian? Do you remember? The C story. And I'll tell you, because they had three very... It's got to be a lane related, right?

Correct. Correct. It's an Elaine story. This is where... And you're, you know, you're not remembering exactly what a secondary C story was is not unheard of, right? Like, that's... Yeah. You don't always think of the third thing. Because, I mean, you think of, like, you think of the gang showing up at George's parents. house and they're they're infestivist jerry goes to answer the door the lights horrible on uh on the the girlfriend he goes uh and then he goes back in and then it's time for the feats of

strength yeah he's the size that he's done with her after that final look at her face or whatever jeez yeah lane's i i can't remember what a lane's uh story was now here what's here's what's strange now i i'm totally normal to forget a c story and a thing that's already too packed it was way too packed that episode good stuff but you know it's a lot of there. But here's what happened. Every single second of that show that dealt with Festivus or Jerry's girlfriend, 100% in my memory, I almost have it memorize some of it. Like, it's just like familiar. Every scene is familiar. Every line is familiar. Until anything to do with Elaine C story would be on screen, anything at all, even when they crossed over toward the end. Really? Complete blank.

like I go what is this and Kim's like it's the same episode I'm like no I've never seen this one she's and then we're going along and then I see the festival stuff and I went wait a minute something's wrong here so then I stick around and then she comes on with her C story again and I

and it's completely new to me completely so here's my two theories running theory number one yeah whenever this episode was on previously for some reason every time I either step away or get distracted during the C story

to the point that I really don't remember it, that's possible that I just check out for it for some reason. So that's theory number one. Theory number two, that there's a version of this episode floating around out there that doesn't include the C story. Like when this show was on Hulu, did I watch this without the C story

because it wasn't in there? But that doesn't make any sense because it's a good 10 minutes of the 25-minute run. Yeah. It's a third, really. No, that seems silly. I think it's probably sort of a third theory, which is the Festivus story and the Jerry's girlfriend story are just so prominent that you just easily forget the third story. It must be something like that.

Like to this moment, I'm not even sure I remember what I just saw. She was, her makeup got all messed up for some reason because she was outside. I can't remember what the reason was. Anyway, it's a whole, it's still ambiguous. It's almost like my brain goes, you can't have that part of the story in your brain. So, Jerry dates a woman who looks attractive sometimes and ugly at other times. Kramer returns to his old job at a bagel shop.

Wow, I'd forgotten about that. George gets out of buying Christmas gifts for his coworkers with fake donations to a made-up charity. That's the one, right? That's the one. Even though they don't mention Festivist in that summation, that's the Festivist episode. and yeah. Oh, there we go. Elaine gives a man named Steve,

her default fake phone number when he hits on her. She realized she wrote it on the back of a card showing she purchased 23 submarine sandwiches. Yeah. Determined to get her free sandwich, she goes to the off-track bedding parlor. Do you remember this at all? Is this a memory?

I don't remember this at all. That's what I'm saying. It's a big involved thing that is completely poof. No, nothing about it. I don't remember Elaine going to a betting parlor to, uh, all right yeah there might be something there might be something to i don't know i doubt that there's like an edited version that just edits elaine's story out of it i don't think so either that seems

too crazy to me but also you mentioned the kramer working at the bagel shop thing that's almost a d story it kind of is i'd forgotten about that too yeah but what you just just because their their a and b stories in that episode were just so strong that it just it made us forget about the the c and d stories It must be. I mean, I honestly, I was late and I was kind of tired, but I honestly feel like I was going crazy. I was like, wait a minute. How can this, how can this be? I've seen this series, at least, I mean, if I counted, got to be like 10 times over or something. Yeah, yeah. Every episode, I know them all. There's none I've missed. I've never gone, oh, there's one that I never saw for signs. It's never doesn't happen. Anyway, so there's that. Right. I'm curious about Karen Feynman, I get a look and see. She's the actress who plays Glenn. the Jerry's girlfriend that that looks good sometimes and not good other times.

Just to see if, you know, this hurt her career. Like if all of a sudden she couldn't get work because she was the ugly girlfriend from Seinfeld. They didn't really... She's doing just fine. Well, yeah, an episode of Chicago Hope, an episode of Viper, an episode of Beverly Hills 9-0-2108. She retired.

An episode of Early Edition. Yeah, she probably just said, you know what i'm going to make so much money in the syndication of that one episode of Seinfeld i don't need to work anymore yeah i'm out it's like a single white female what's her name um uh speaking of tarentino she was yes uh right bridget fonda just poof and then people found her recently and she just looks like somebody's mom walking around and she's like yeah i'm good thanks don't need like she really retired i made my i made my money i'm good yeah what i didn't know though She's married still to

Boingo Boingo Frontman. Oh, Danny Elfman. Right, yes. And they just quietly go about their lives. He's busy with, you know, making scores for movies and stuff. And doing live shows and putting together some really weird videos on his YouTube channel. Yeah, he's weird. That guy's weird.

He's kind of nuts. But she's funny. Yeah, funny, funny but nuts. Funny nuts, we call him. That's a way that just feels like it's got to be. such a weird household. Yeah. Like, what do you suppose it's like in there?

Do you think he's, um, I don't know. I'm going to go work on some more scores. I'll see you later. Yeah, and she's like, I'm out of Hollywood. See you later. And just says, yeah. Okay. Could be.

I'm going to Macy's. Bye. But you wouldn't, she's unrecognizable now. And I think to her, I think that's what she wanted. I think, I think she, I think Hollywood sucks. And I think she sort of knew it. it and maybe, I don't know, it feels like right after the Tarantino movie, after Jackie Brown, she's like, I think I'm done.

Yeah. I don't want to show my phone. I think, Jared B, daughter of Peter Fonda, not Jane Fonda. Yeah, Peter Fonda's daughter. Yeah, that's correct. It's like Eric Roberts and Julia Roberts, how Emma Roberts is Eric Roberts's daughter, not Julia Roberts. That's right.

Of course, Peter Fonda, most famous in my mind for his excellent late life work in 310 to Yuma in 2007. Oh, sure. Very good. It's funny. I only just, I think, yeah, Easy Rider. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the standard, right, for him? Yeah, yeah. Easy, I've never seen Easy Rider. Should I see Easy Rider? Is that worth doing it?

For completion's sake. Yeah. I mean, is it like... It was okay. I don't think it's, uh, I think it's, it's just notable for, for really propelling motorcycle culture, um, as well as it did, but I don't feel like it was a great movie. see to me it's like somebody definitely correct me if i'm if i'm wrong and it was a great movie and i just didn't give it enough of a chance sure it feels very much of a very specific time yeah for sure hippie biker moment boom bam there's your movie i think that's why i never really got into it jack nicholson and um who else was another oh uh bi patch from water world um oh hopper

hopper dennis hopper yeah hell of a cast i mean yeah geez louise louise but I just never saw it. You know what else I haven't seen? I've never seen. Parasite? No, the Mrs. Yeah. The Mrs. Robinson one.

What's that called? Oh, the graduate? Yeah. So I just watched that Charlie Wilson's War by Mike Nichols, but I've never seen his movie he's famous for it, which is that. Yeah, that one I would say is a good one to go back and watch. It is, boy, the last two minutes of that or two, three minutes of that movie is the ending you never, expected you never saw coming from that film and the

the emotions on um Hoffman and Bancroft and Bancroft am I remember correctly I think so Mrs. Robinson's their faces no words uttered just Simon and Garfunkel music is fantastic that makes the I mean the movie's great up until then too but right but the the last few minutes of that film is great I'll rectify that at some point the other one was American Gigolo

never saw that oh I know enough No, but I've heard But I've heard that Blondie song enough Catherine Ross Thank you, Jeannie, yeah, not Bankroft She's the She's the she Mrs. Robinson

Who plays Mrs. Robinson? That's her, right? That's Anne Bancroft. Catherine Ross is Is the girl. Elaine, speaking of her name was Elaine Was it Elaine bringing it back to Seinfeld?

Which is funny because Because he's hammering on the glass And is he gone? What is he saying? Is it Elaine? Elide. Boy. Apparently I need to watch The Graduate again, too,

because it's apparently been a really long time. It's an old movie and, you know, how many opportunities are there? But plastics. Plastics. There you go. What's that song at the end of the, so I know enough about American Gigolo to know there's a song where

Angelina Jolie's dad and... John White. Everybody's talking at me. You're talking about Midnight Cowboy. That's the one. Midnight Cowboy, not American Gigolo. That's what I'm thinking of. Midnight Cowboy.

Oh, gotcha. Okay. All right. That's the one I haven't seen. Very different film. Blondie, no song at Midnight Cowboy. No. Also, uh, Dustin Hoffman does not go, I'm walking here in American Jiglo.

That never happens. Richard Giggis goes, I'm walking here. What's great, though, is there's a Seinfeld that brings us all back because there's a signfield. It does. It is where Jerry and I guess Jerry and Kramer are in the back of a bus. The Kramer's all sad and they're playing that music. And I guess they're reproducing that, a scene. They are reproducing the scene from the graduate.

And Seinfeld, John Voight, the pencil, and, uh, I mean, there's, there's connections all over the place to everything we just mentioned. John Voight's car. John Void's car. I remember all these things. His bite marks. Yeah, his bite marks. I mean, these are easy things to remember. Why Elaine's third story didn't stay with me, I don't know.

I still don't really know what it was about other than the, what you just said. You read the thing. Yeah, I mean, it's, I described it. I still can't remember it. And some of my favorite C stories on that show are Elaine stories. Yes. Like her and Mr. Pitt and all that. For sure.

Amazing. Everything with putty was fantastic. All of it. Her and Sparra Square. Yeah, her and Peterman. Amazing. Yes, yes. Elaine.

Urban sombrero. You may know it is Burma, but I know it is. My guy. He's so great. Myanmar. Yeah, he's amazing. I love that guy. Anyway, there's that.

Yeah. I feel better. I feel like I got some therapy on this. Good. Good. Well, I don't know if I helped. I just really commiserated. Well, you didn't hurt.

That's all I can do. You didn't hurt. That's all the matters. All right. Shogho wrote in. Oh, I like this. Yep. She says, good morning, buttholes.

That's how she does that. Oh, well, okay. All right. She says, I have maybe a weird question, but first let me set it up. Is she in the chat today? Let's see. I don't see her. Maybe that's good.

Quick way to tell is to type S-H-O, and no, she is not. I'm not there today. Here's what she says. I was born and raised in San Diego. And we were taught how to identify rip currents so that we didn't get swept up by the ocean and die out in the middle of deep water. I'd never heard of rip currents, but it makes sense on the face of it, right? Something that pulls you out like a riptide. Yep.

Like the show Riptide. Same kind of thing as Riptide. Dunaway. Fewer dumb robots. Yeah. And Dunaway's probably excited just hearing the word riptide. Yeah. And they mentioned of riptide.

It's like the bat. signal to one of, one of Brian Dunaway's ears just perked up. Yeah, you guys need Dunaway? Say rip time. You'll be good. Three times and he shows up in your house. Yep. It shoots bees out of his mouth. Anyway, it says, when I lived in Bakersfield, meth capital of California, she didn't say that part I did. We learned that you should never go river rafting without a professional at the Kern River, because I cannot tell you how often the news reports had dead bodies that washed up every summer,

multiple times. When I lived in Lancaster, I don't know where that is. Is that California? That must be. Yeah, it's California. It says, we learned that you should never go hiking alone. It's very easy to slip and fall

to your death in the Los Angeles forest. The cliffs don't care how pro you are. He says, now I live here in Las Vegas. I have no desire to go to Lake Mead. I've been named, sorry, it's been named the deadliest lake in the U.S. because so many people die from drowning. We average 25 dead.

deaths a year. I didn't know that. That's time. Yeah, I didn't know that either. And they find them. When water level goes down, they keep finding those guys. Why, she says, because people get drunk and irresponsible. They don't wear life jackets. There are no lifeguards on duty. So, you're basically swimming at your own risks. So my question is, what is the local danger that residents warn folks about where you live? Like, don't do this or you're going to die type stuff. Much love. Let's roll buttholes. Show Joe. Well, let's help Sarah here. Brian, do you is anywhere in the Denver, either metropolitan area or outside of it, where people are like, oh, no, I wouldn't go up there if I were you.

Don't go to Aurora. That's where they film cops. Don't go to Aurora, Colorado. Gotcha. No, I mean, like, you know, thinking more of like the dangers, you know, lookout mountain, there, you know, there's warnings all the time up there. People cycle, oh my God, they cycle up, lookout mountain. And it's a, it is an intense bike ride.

It's beautiful. overlooks the whole city but there's no guardrail and there's no bike lane either so if you've got cars going up and down Lookout Mountain and you're on a bike you're basically between the cars and the cliff

and yeah that's bad that seems bad it seems bad it is bad yeah there's plenty you know what plenty of other places I'll ride my bike no thank you look out mountain sure sure absolutely but as far as like like a natural place or like a natural place or like a as we do get we get the same river rafting things that they talk about we get the same

mountain climbing things that the shojo talked about i can't think of like a specific um yeah i can't think of a specific uh thing yeah wes west in the chat says dude we drove up like out mount a few weeks ago going downhill those bikers were passing us going like 60 miles per they do they fly down that damn thing yeah that's pretty that's that can be any canyon bike riding stuff it's a bit dangerous find uh find video like just look up youtube uh folks and and look at uh lookout mountain cycling and you'll probably get video of somebody on a bike with their go pro doing video of the ride down lookout mount or up that sounds horrible i wouldn't do it um you've done it though right you've been on there no no i've never done lookout mountain i haven't written

on that i'm going to tell people my friend brian it was on lookout mountain just to make you sound I've gone up there because it's also a great makeout spot. You go up there, there's places to park, you take, you fogg up all the windows. Yeah, yeah. Yep. High school, high school business up there? That's the danger, exactly. That's the danger that I'll encounter on Lookout Mountain.

That's right. Either come down dead or pregnant, one of those two. One of the two, yeah, maybe both. So I'm reading here, five national parks in Utah are ranked among the most dangerous in the United States. because that's what I was trying to think of. It's like, oh, what here? What of our natural wonders is going to get me killed in Utah? Turns out five are considered dangerous.

Canyon lands in Moab is number 24. Arches National Park is ranked 31. I've been there. Along with Capitol Reef and Bryce Canyon at 42. Zion's National Park, though, is in the top 10. So you want to be careful there. But if I'm talking about like local lore kind of stuff, like growing up, people would say don't go there.

There's a place called Suicide Rock that is, it was around even when my dad was a kid. This is how old this thing is. And people would climb up it to spray paint or tag it or put, you know, I love Shirley or whatever. And so the things just covered in all this stuff, which actually made it worse to climb because it was less, you just had a lot of paint and it was not great for gripage. Grippage? Grippage, sure. I'll accept that. So lots of people fall to their death off.

So we have people falling by accident and dying on it. People get drunk up there, fall and die. And then other people literally go up there to jump off and commit suicide. So it's like this really notorious thing. And many times the city and the county are like, we're going to take that down. There's rock's coming down. We're taking that down. And they never do because there's so much resistance because a lot of people see it as like a recognizable, longstanding landmark.

It's a landmark. Exactly. So they don't care how much. death's around it. But I think that's probably it. When I was a kid, people would say, oh, I wouldn't go up there if I were you kind of. That was the deal. And then the one place Grand Canyon, which we have a chunk of here, and of course, Arizona and whatnot, it always seems like some jackass is going over the rope and getting up too close and then slipping. Right. Taking a selfie on the other side of the rail. Yeah, duh. How dumb do you have to be?

Dead Horse Point is also like that. That's in Moab, I guess. And people just get weird. to go past the ropes and they want to see over the edge, which is a really amazing, it's an amazing view, but why risk that stuff, man? Yeah, exactly. You know, maybe get a, get a friend and tie a rope around your waist, and then, you know, then you can go look over the edge and they can hold on to you if they need to. I've only been to, so to her whole email about Lake Mead, I've been there one time for a scout trip, and we both, we mostly camped, but we also did a little water skiing.

And I remember at the time thinking, this lake is cool, and if I live closer, I'd go here all the time. But these days, partly because it's so low, I think, I don't know if this winter helped or not. I don't know if Lake Mead's still dropping. I don't know what the deal is. But it's not a lake I would, it's not one I'd prioritize now. If I'm going to make a lake trip, I'm not going to plan to go to Mead. I'd probably go, I'd probably go a bear lake again or something. If you had a motorboat and water skis and stuff like that, you might.

But, yeah, I don't see Lake Mead as the kind of place in that heat that I'd want to camp on the side, roast some hot dogs, dip into the water every once in a while. It's like, no, there's better lakes near me that I'd much rather do that way. Now that I think about it, high school was also riddled with the warnings about going to Utah Lake, which is kind of smack between, like actually from where I am, it's a straight shot to where Orham is, except there's a giant. at lake called Utah Lake in our way. And they've even talked about it a highway over it. They never did. But anyway, it's this lake. And as kids, it was a quick

way to go and do an afternoon Saturday lake run, you know. Like, we're just going to go get on the boat and have some fun for a few hours or whatever. It was cheap and you could just go launch your boat and whatever. So we did that a lot when we were younger. But the water always kind of had like a

rainbow film on top of it, you know? Oh, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. That kind of fish showing up dead. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. And I feel like we tangled up the prop three or four times there. And then one time, oh, they pulled a body out of there once that was totally unrelated to us, obviously.

Sure. Yeah. That's what you say. That's a weird way to put that, isn't it? Yeah. Totally unrelated to me. Unrelated to us. Anyway, be careful out there, everybody.

Showjo would like to warn you. There's dangers everywhere. All right. Speaking of Showjo and Vegas, next month, as you know, I'm going to Vegas. with our friends Tanner and Alex and Barry Fulke and Tristan. We're doing like a little, we're basically taking our D&D group on the road and going to Vegas for a few days. And Mitzula was nice enough to reach out to me and say,

Hey, Brian, you know that Spice Girls tribute that you missed in July that was just like one month long at Excalibur. They're bringing it back and shows start the week before you go out on your trip. So, I'm going to go see that stupid. That's great. How's the Excalibur venue? Is it okay? Yeah, I've never been.

I've never been to the Australian Bee Gees show or Thunder Down Under or Tournament of Kings. I don't know what any of their dumb venues are like at freaking Excalibur. But they do have this. And Ben Zula says the show's really good. I trust him, obviously, of course. He's our Vegas Sherpa. but boy watching the YouTube video it's like this is going to be a very interesting evening

and everybody else is in it I haven't checked with Tristan yet but I bought him a ticket anyway oh they would all yeah it sounds like something they'd all want to do yeah exactly Tanner is totally into it Barry's like I'm in to send me a playlist I don't know what I'm going to be hearing oh and Tanner we heard about your I guess he has to have an eye operation that sucks taking it from someone who's had a couple of those

I hate eye stuff. Man, what an amazing organ the eye is. Incredible organic device that helps us sense and see and live and you know, all that. And when you, when the threat of it is

looming over you, you got somebody putting a knife in there. It's effed. It's a fragile, the most fragile thing of all time. That's right. It feels like it's, yeah. Which would you rather have, Brian? Tell me.

Oh, boy. Yeah, it's one of these Where both things completely suck You're right, you're right These are going to both suck But let's just say Somebody had An ice pick

Let's say an ice pick Okay, let's say it's Sharon Stone, sure I or testicle Oh And either way, it's the same process of Stab right through the middle of it Good Lord, you're horrible I know, it's horrible

It's horrible So which if you had to choose though If you had to. Uh, I'm going to go testicle. I'm going to say testicle, Bob. That's an amazing line. I'm going to say testicle. In the butt, Bob.

Yeah, I would too, because you can't, you couldn't see out of that thing anyway, right? Yeah. And we're kind of done with ours, and it's going to hurt. Definitely done with mine. Yeah, you're... Right now, they just get in the way when I get on the bike. They're just a pain in the ass. Well...

You can get those. I guess. You don't want to probably... Okay, here's another question. Here it comes. If you... Yes, Scott, let me answer that question for you. Yeah, let me get a good one on this one.

So, if you've been vasectomized or whatever... Sure, which I have. Yeah, and a lot of people have. If you went and just had those buggers removed entirely, what would that do to people? It's still... They still, don't they... I know they don't produce active sperm, but they still... aren't they still producing testosterone or something testosterone well you do need that to stay healthy i mean

you want to have good levels or whatever my levels already suck i got low tea man yeah you have low tea exactly maybe you need maybe you need a third maybe it's less about getting rid of yours and maybe okay would you donate like a kidney would you donate a testicle to your good morning show for i would absolutely give you one of my yeah i'd mean that's not too yeah you'd be we'd have a real ball with it. We'll see if we can get that then. It's not as good as your joke, but it's pretty good. All right. Well, there you go. That went places. Thank you for that show, Joe. You created a monster. Let's move on to talk about some of this news that broke

since we last spoke. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought you by Coverville today at 12 p.m. Ooh, an hour early. What? That's crazy. Yeah, Coverville today. The music of Robbie Robertson, who passed away last week. Lead singer of the band, not lead singer, guitarist from the band, because you had you had Levon Helm, you had Rick Danco, you had a lot of vocalists in that band, and you can hear them all when you hear that song, The Wait. Take a load off, Annie. But no, not

Robbie Robertson, Jay Jonah Jameson's assistant, Robbie Robertson. That guy's fine. He's still alive. He's still around. He's doing just fine. Yeah. But he lives on forever in comics. He'll never die. Lives on forever in comics. But no, Robbie Roberts, an incredible songwriter, and you'll hear covers

of a lot of his solo stuff, like Broken. Broken Arrow is one of those just amazing songs. What's the band he was in, though? I don't think he said. The band?

Yeah. The name of the band is just the band. The band, yeah. They're called the band? They're called the band. That was before search engine optimization, Scott. That was before,

that was when you can walk into a record store and you can say, hey do you have the newest album by the band and they go yes we do it's right here it's music from big pink enjoy bud i i respect that because the band or live is another one yes or the the the the like man that's it those are those are such dangerous moves i love it i kind of respect it yeah you could you would not do that in this day and age like fun with a period uh you know listen jack gotten off i think you've you've got a great band there but uh maybe you should

have thought a little bit more about your uh your your your sios strategy yeah you can't oh yeah yeah you're right the three exclamation points yes is anyone called music who is there a band called music do you know um that would be so dumb the music that would be dumb yeah there probably is music yeah the music band it says here that there is i'm sure right um i mean how would you search for it oh yeah here it is the music is an alternative english rock band 99. See, that's even, oh, they're still working. Oh, they parted ways in 2011. But still, still, it's just the music, really? Music. Who's playing tonight? The music. Well, yeah, but who's playing it? I see you. Listen, David and Don's band was not called the was not was. It was just

was not was. And there's parentheses in there, too, by the way, it's was. And then parentheses not was. Oh, okay. Oh, update, a quick update, everybody. My brother replied. I had said, Happy late birthday to my brother. He replied, says, ha ha, I already ate it. So there you go. Anyway, back to this. So the Coverville, today, noon.

Twitch.tv. TV slash Coverville playing some Marvel snap. And, uh, but no time today for, uh, follow up games. That's why I'm doing the show early because I've got some stuff I've got to do this afternoon. So, no worries. Uh, so there you go. Oh, Shogho just showed up.

Should we redo her whole question? Let's do the whole segment over again. The whole segment over again. The entire, uh, 20, minutes of her focused email. We talked a lot about you, Shojo. You're going to want to go back in here. Oh, my gosh.

Boy, the things we said about you. Yeah, you won't believe it. You're going to have to change your thing from Let's Go Buttholes to something much more serious. That's right. All right. Let's get to the news. Yeah, let's do it. Supermarket AI meal planner.

This is a thing. People are having these now. It's a thing. And we expected it. But it suggested a recipe that would actually create chlorine gas and kill you. Uh, that's a dangerous deal. Sure. And they think it's accidental.

Yeah, they, sure, sure it is. Uh, New Zealand supermarket experimenting with using AI to generate meal plans has seen its app produce some unusual dishes, recommending customers, uh, recipes for deadly chlorine gas, poison bread sandwiches, and mosquito repellent roast potatoes. Good Lord. Oh, geez. This is an app created by supermarket chain pack and save. I, I assume this is just in New Zealand. I don't know. It was advertised as a way for customers to create or, sorry, creatively use leftovers during a cost of living crisis.

It asks users to enter in various ingredients in their homes and then auto generates a meal plan or recipe along with a cheery commentary. It initially drew attention on social media for some unappealing recipes including Oreo vegetable stir fry. That sounds terrific. I don't want that at all. Oreo vegetable stir fry. Can you imagine? Do you crush up the Oreos or do you just lay them in the walk? Oh, like just discs?

They're just discs in there? Just the discs. I don't think that. Oh, no, all this double stuff melted out. Oh, horrible idea. My gosh. Well, anyway, my favorite, my favorite recipe from all this is something called meat bending. Mmm.

Meat, meat bending? Meat bending? I can almost hear Rise Davies say it. Yes, you can. Wait, is that his name? Yeah. I think that's right. I always mix him up with the guy that plays Gimley.

John and Rise Davis. Yeah. I can't. It's just impossible. Rees. Rees. Rees. Reise.

Rees. Is it Reese? I don't know. I loved him on his character. The kid he played on Bob's Burgers is still one of the greatest moments in television history. Oh, Rise Darby. Right. Darby.

That's it. Right. Right. Right. Thank you. Oh, he's so great. I love that guy. Yep.

One customer began, or when customers began experimenting with the, the thing, entering a wider range of household shopping items into the app, began to make even less appealing recommendations. One recipe is dubbed aromatic water mix, which would create chlorine gas. The bot recommends the recipe for the perfect

non-alcoholic beverage to quench your thirst and refresh your senses. Oh, it'll do it all right. You'll never be thirsty again. Yeah, I will never drink anything ever again. Served chilled and enjoy the refreshing fragrance, it says, but does not note that inhaling chlorine gas can cause

lung damage or death. Yeah, we got to be a little better about these things, I think. Yeah, yeah, I still got its issues. You saw my reply about that Frank Sinatra thing, right? Like, the music they pulled was exactly, I mean, it is the postmodern jukebox. And the dude who posted that, that break stuff guy on TikTok, didn't come forward about that until people said, dude, that's the music from postmodern jukebox. He says, oh, yeah, yeah, that's the music from postmodern jukebox.

but the Frank Sinatra voice is AI. And I'm like, well, now it's sound a little suspect. Now I don't know if I believe you and ever, you ever say anything ever again. Exactly. Because I've heard Toby Huss's version of Frank Sinatra, his impersonation, it sounds really good. And so does this. Well, here he is singing. I'll do a taste of this Wonderwall cover.

Do you have another, does he do a different thing? Yeah, I got a couple of these. Let's try this one. It's probably going to be the Mike Flowers Pops Wonderwall, isn't it? There are many things that I don't like to say they do, but I don't have. I don't know if that's a, I don't know. That's hard to say. That sounded a little electronic right there in the hell.

Yeah. How about this one? That still could be the postmodern jukebox Wonderwald, though. It could be. How about this one? Well, that doesn't sound right at all. Yeah, that is very electronic. That's pretty bad.

Let's see. So that's bad AI Sinatra is what that is. Okay, how about this one? This one kind of caught me. Here you go. If you want to run away with me and no galactly and I could take you for a ride. Well, yeah, that's what's been levitating by... Duolipa.

Duolipa, but it's the postmodern jukebox levitating. Is it? Yes. Not even like, oh, yeah, the AI must have used a little bit of that. No, it's basically they did that. They stripped out the female vocals that they had for Postmodern Jukebox and put that Sinaitra on top of... Hoping that nobody would notice.

Exactly. Yeah. But I do. I love that song anyway. Did you ever watch the... Music Exploder? Song Exploder. Did you ever watch the song Exploder on Netflix about that song?

No. Okay. All right. Quick. Is it good? Kickass. recommendal here right now. Bonus.

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. All right. Go ahead. Yes. On Netflix, there is a show called Song Exploder. Oh, let me make sure it's still on. Yes, it still is.

Good. Series one, I think they did two seasons. Oops. Back up, back up, back up. I don't want to start the show. I just want details. Sure. Give me some details.

This is the podcast, basically. the NPR Song Exploder podcast, and what they do is the dude who hosted Hrishkesh Hurway interviews musicians about one specific song, and then they look at the stems, the individual tracks for that song, and strip it down and say, okay, let's just listen to the drums here. Tell me about this. Oh, tell me about this guitar lick right here. And Doolipa, like this is what made me a fan of Duelipa. Like, this is what made me a fan of Duelipa was her interview on Song Exploder.

Oh, to check this out. She's really smart. I like her. She really is. Yeah, she's got it going on upstairs. But another really good one on there is Lynn Manuel Miranda's wait for it. So from Hamilton, they do like a little breakdown of every note of wait for it from Hamilton. It's fantastic.

These things are 30 minutes long. Fit one in. I like that podcast. The podcast I already liked. I didn't know. They did a show version. That's cool. Yeah, yeah.

I will check that out. It's the same reason I was sold on Doo Leap. It was this whole separate thing, but I heard an interview with her about an album drop, and I thought, well, this is going to be a bunch of teeny bob horrible. Yeah. And she's so intelligent, so smart and so, like, articulate. It's not that I didn't expect a beautiful woman to be smart.

Like, she's not like, oh, yeah, well, you know, this is just about, my friends and I were just like to dance in clubs. And so this song is about us dancing in class. Right. It's not like that at all. It sounds like somebody I'd want to have. If we had a zombie survivor group, I'd want her in it, you know. For a couple of reasons. Yeah, well, neither of us are repopulating the Earth, my friend. I might.

Oh, I think that back. Yeah. Yeah, I never had the, the sniff. Mr. Two Balls. Yeah, but I don't think they're very, I don't think they're great swimmers anymore. I think they're all kind of like. hey, I'm tired, you know. They're, yeah, they've gotten their seven gold medals and they've retired from the 300-meter butterfly, is what you're saying?

Yeah, they just show up for, to do color commentary at the Olympics now. They don't actually compete anymore. All right, moving on. Don't eat these foods from this AI thing is what I'm getting at. Yeah, yeah, don't use those recipes. It's not hello fresh. No, never is it hello or fresh. Here's one from a suburban Detroit woman.

Okay. Suburban Detroit woman. What's her powers? We haven't done this a while. Suburban Detroit woman. Able to visit the rock and roll of the Mecca, the low town, just by driving down the street because she's got nothing else to do. Excelsior. That's right.

Take that, Detroit, Michigan. I'm sure we'll get no emails on that. Let's see. She found, or she says she found a live frog and a spinach. container. So you know that bag of salad you're always buying? Yes. Imagine those containers full of spinach. A woman in Detroit opened hers up and bam

a live frog hanging out in there chilling. Sweet. Yeah. Just munch them just be like, hey man. Yeah, I found this first. This is my spinach. Says Amber Warwick of Southfield says she bought the sealed earthbound farm spinach package earlier this week from a major store. As I'd say that?

Meyer. Meyer. Oh, just Meyer, the J. Silent. Meyer. Yeah, the Jay is silent. It's a dumb. It's like German or something, right? I think so. I don't know what that is. Dumb Germans.

Yeah. We don't have them here, but we had, when we did our, um, uh, when we did the, the newspaper software company, we had, um, what was it called Scarborough data? People's shopping habits. And we're like, Megger, meager, meger, and somebody said, no, it's just, it's just Meyer. We have a, we had Fred Meyer here, but it was spelled normal. I assume they're not connected. They're also owned now by Kroger, I think. Anyway, WJBK TV reported this.

When she got home, her daughter found a live frog in the container and screamed. She went, she went, ribbit, like that. Came out of the bank going, hello, my baby, hello, my darling, hello, my right time. Until she pulled out her phone to try and capture it, then it just sat there. I don't know if there's a cartoon that had a bigger impact on me. I love that one. Honestly, it's so good, dude. It just stresses me out because this poor guy, this frog, does this amazing thing,

and he can't get anybody to believe him. Yeah. And it just, it just upsets me so much. It was the moment, though, I realized that Chuck Jones is a genius. Like, it is so, I don't know if it's ever been matched. He's so good. Anyway, this woman, oh, yeah, Amber Warwick, I already mentioned that. It was alive and moving, she says, just thank God I didn't eat the frog.

Wait, are you telling us to thank God you didn't eat the frog? Or are you saying... Yeah, I know, because it does sound like she's telling us to thank God she didn't eat the frog. I think she should thank him because I don't know her. Maybe she's a terrible person and should have eaten the frog. I don't know. Well, if you took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it? Yeah, it's just a frog.

Crunchy frog. Warwick said she immediately returned the package and the frog to the store. Workers were released the frog and gave her a refund. It released it outside, I hope, not in the store. Yeah, I'll release the frog into the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the iceberg lettuce. Yeah. Who knows where it will show up next?

Exactly. You found the frog. You got a free bag of salad. Let's see. The TV station's video showed the frog in a sealed container. Jennifer Holton, spokesman for the Michigan Department of Agriculture and rural, rural development. Told the Detroit Free Press, you've been there. I have been there.

Yeah. That's familiar from stories prior. And I remember about as much of the Detroit Free Press as anything else in Michigan. That's about it. Closest I ever got to Detroit was the airport, and that was in 2018, and that airport doesn't count. You have to leave the airport and have a meal for it to count. That's true.

I haven't technically been in. I've only been in, well, I guess I was outside the building, but I never went anywhere past the airport's boundaries. But that's an awesome airport. I was not told how good the Detroit airport is, or the new, I guess it's new, is. But it was great. How long ago was this? 2018, when I went to Columbus, it was our service. to Columbus, right. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. It's been, it was in the 90s that I was there, and I don't remember being a good airport. So that's a, apparently they've redone the airport. Yeah, I think so. Unlike that thing up in Seattle, what are you guys, that you guys call an airport. What is it? What is it? I hate that place. There are two airports I don't like. That and Dallas-Fort Worth.

Oh, I was going to say a DIA because of the terminal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was just a bad circumstance. Otherwise, you have a very cool airport. It's awesome. But making me run around that giant wiener. No, but DFW, DFW, I would agree. And I'm sorry, but Hartsfield Jackson, it's, it's a, it's a big, it's a huge airport. It's such a sprawling airport. It's difficult. Yeah, you don't, one does not simply walk in. Do L-AX is even horrible too.

Yeah, LACS is bad, LACS is bad, real bad. Yeah, uh, Charlotte, Charlotte North Carolina's airport is lovely. You've got rocking chairs in front of a big plate glass window. sit there and while you wait for your flight, just rock in some rocking chairs. Oh, as an alternative to LAX, whenever we'd go to Bliscon, we would go to John Wayne International. Yeah. Love that little airport. That's great.

It's a great little airport. Yeah. It's got a big John Wayne statue. You go to John Wayne. Yeah, don't even bother with LAX. It's more expensive, but if you can do it. Speaking of which, are you going to take a little journey out to California in November? Don't know yet.

If they, everyone is still waiting to. see if they're going to do press availability stuff. Sure. I'm going to apply for that if they said they're going to do it. So it's just a matter of time. But if not, I don't know, maybe. It might be fun to go out that way anyway, but I don't know if I'm... I'm considering going just, you know, just to be out there, I'll go visit the guild, the guild hall in the hotel.

And that might just hit some Disneyland, you know, just go see the new... I wonder if there will be. Do you think they'll be a guild hall this year? I don't know. maybe they're oh i don't know yeah i don't know it's true i haven't heard about it usually we do by now right like the yeah my guess is my guess is people are a little soured on it i don't know like it's been a long haul from 2019 till now in terms of blizzard issues and problems and ups and downs and all that i don't know no one's talked to me which tell which probably means it probably isn't happening

because nobody's going to want to spend it too grand or whatever now so i'd go out there just to hang out with uh you know if you're out there wine zirple probably would be out there well i don't know they're all they're all hardcore uh what you call it no the other one um final fan yeah final fantasy 14 final fantasy okay so they went to fan fest in Vegas two weeks ago or whatever it was three weeks maybe oh right yeah and that's their blizzcon basically i think they're probably done if i had to guess okay a lot has changed won't even go won't even bother a lot of stuff has changed changed it's weird like you know between the last time there was a blizzcon and now the instance ended uh so on a personal level that was a big change um since i went oh my gosh so much has changed

it's just a big different thing now i don't know and plus they didn't have it for three years so yeah exactly yeah i don't know i don't know yeah i certainly don't have a strong desire to go to the con itself but uh i mean i wouldn't again if they give me press stuff if they give you a ticket sure yeah if i get pressed stuff i'm sure i'm absolutely going but i don't know if they're going to do it or not because they're they'd have to give me a ticket in the hotel yeah yeah i needed that's the other thing i won't and they are and then the past when i would get them they would do that too so i would get hotel and i would get uh access and then plus the upstairs stuff and all that like that's the whole point of it if they don't do that or if they're doing it differently this year and it's like

because they may have changed their whole approach to this since their big PR fallouts. I don't know. I don't know. I'll just wait until I do my big round the country road trip. Coverville on the road.

Hell yeah, man. And then I'll do then I'll do Orange County. You're going to put your I guess you just drive your Kia, right? I would drive the Kia. It would be the soul. The soul of love. just took it in for its 100,000 mile service,

and the dealership is like, dude, you've been taking really good care of this car. Like, this thing purrs like a kitten, and it's 10 years old. It's a 2013. Keyes are good, man. I don't like their new logo, but I like their cars. Their new logo's weird.

I don't like it. Because it's like missing some, it looks like it's missing spots. This seems like bad design to me. Yeah, like the letters don't look like letters. I know they're kind of supposed to just evoke letters. I just, I don't know Maybe the old one wasn't great either

The old one wasn't great Yeah The one with the oval I like the new one I like the Like it looks like a It looks like a little zigzag My favorite

Actually let's do this real quick Favorite car logo I'm gonna go with I like the Accura logo For one reason It's kind of just an A But it's an A That is morphed from the H

That is Honda The parent company who also makes Accura. And so it looks like they took the Honda H and made a little sharp A out of it. And I don't know why I like that, but I like that for some reason. Simple, easy, you know. I like Toyotas. It's like the three, the three ovals, but you can make all the letters in Toyota using those three.

Like basically you can isolate different parts of that symbol to spell, to use all letters of Toyota. Yeah, that actually, I never even thought of that before. That's true. I'm looking at it right now. You totally can't. Yeah.

Yeah, you know the worst one? Land Rover. Land Rover's pretty bad. Are you even trying? Like, did you just say, well, let's just put the words a Land Rover in a circle. Yeah.

That's same. Alpha Ramo's like that. I don't like theirs. I don't like Ferraris. No, Ferrari, that whole coat of arms. Oh, no, Ferrari's the horse. Which ones is the Lamborghini, the coat of arms? Is it Lamborghini?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Here it is. Yeah, it's pretty lame. I think the Mercedes one is pretty iconic. That one's cool. Volkswagen's cool. You know what? The German ones are pretty cool.

Pretty cool. I give those Germans some love, you know? Volkswagen, yeah. Yeah. Chevrolet makes me think old and busted, but there's no reason to think that. Austin Martin's kind of cool. It's like a pair of wings. I like that.

Oh, I like the half Olympics. It looks like the plastic thing that pilots used to get it. light attendant used to give you when you got on a plane. Estin Martin sucks. Yeah, no, you're right. If you see it on paper, I think it looks cooler than it doesn't realize. Yeah. It's basically like, it's the cheap plastic pin that used to get from the United.

Cadillac's too much cursive writing. Don't like that. Although, do you see that? The Cadillac just launched their new Escalade All Electric called the Escalade IQ. And this thing, Brian, is only like $200,000. you should just you know just go ahead and get that you know and then drive around the country and that and you'll be like a gangster out there listen if uh if if anybody wants to back that level of my patreon sure please be my guest yeah yeah i've got to sell i got to sell a ton of these

stupid little spring loaded filament holders to be able to get that ooh i like BMW also i'll say that a BMW is good with a little checkerboard it's the Germans man the Germans know how to make cool logos except for that one logo they made in the 40s we don't like that logo. Okay, that's a bad logo. Not a good logo, but all other. Not a fan of that logo. I don't know. BMW, they're, they're ready for a refresh. I don't like, I don't like how far apart the letter, the letters BMW are on the top of that circle. I almost wish those letters just were gone and this was, it's recognizable enough, just have the black rim and the two blue and the white. Do that. I'm with you 100%. You don't need the letters. Get them off. That we know enough about

this at this stage. Jaguar's the worst because it's always a big metal thing kids can break off. You know, they come up to the hood and just go So lame. What about Tesla's logo? I kind of like it. I like Tesla's logo. Like a little tuxedo.

Yeah, Tesla has a very nice logo, I think. What's Nissan these days? Hold on. I like Nissan. I used to like Nissan. Oh, it's just a circle with a line through it, isn't it? It's the London Underground, isn't it? Oh, you're right. It's just a name. and a circle. Oh, it's better than it used to be. I like the

I like that they've really like eliminated the stripe in the middle and just put the word through the middle. Yeah, it's cool. And put little lines to indicate. Yeah, I think Nissan's improved. The old Kia logo looked like the word Kia. The new Kia logo looks like

Converting. It looks like an M. It looks like an M with some extra lines. Yeah, I hate it. It's a bad design. All right, we are going to take a break. When we come back from this break, we're going to spend some time with Wendy. It's a follow-up to a couple of weeks ago, and we started with our whole internal roommate voice. Yes, our roommate voice. So we're going to find out where this was all headed and whether we did our homework or not, all that kind of fun stuff. So stick

around. Brian will play a little music though before. Brian, what do you got? Yeah, yeah. How would you like that that Tetris movie? Did you like that? Did you guys all watch that? Still haven't seen it, but I know that I'm going to see it and I love Tetris, so I'm all in on Tetris. Love Tetris. Well, how about a song that will evoke the memory, the fine memory? of Tetris. Not in music, but just in title. This is an L.A. based composer and sound artist named Nick Norton. Time for

a nice little instrumental on the show. He's got his full-length album, Music for Sunsets, coming out next month, September 15th, but you can pre-order it. While you wait for it, you can listen to the first track from the album, which is called Soviets Make Good Games.

That's the new song here from Nick Norton. Go check it out. Soviets make good games. You know, you know, You know, you're going to be able to I'm going to be

I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm And so that's I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to you know I'm on I'm on I'm with

and Thank you. You know, the I'm going to be I'm going to be able to I'm going to I'm going to

I'm Thank you. You know, So, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. You know what really makes us mad is wasting money on CDs with only one or two good songs. Yeah, we got this CD called punk. It's loaded with our favorite tunes, man. Yeah.

Just listen. I don't know anything about any ATM. And we returned. Tell me who that was one more time. Well, it ain't in excess is about as punk as Yanni. Yeah, you should see this old commercial. The visual almost is better because they're wearing the dumbest wig. and just, that's really dumb.

Yeah, we picked up the newest punk CD. Who wants to buy albums that just have one good song? Check out some of these great artists on our punk song. Met or punk album, Men Without Hats, Wang Chung in excess. You're not wrong. Almost everything is like that. It's so bad. I don't know who they thought they were talking to, but some guy is.

Yeah, that person just heard, that instrumentally just heard, that was Nick Norton from L. coming out on an album, Music for Sunsets comes out September 15th on People, Places, Records, but that's the first single Soviets make good games.

All right, that's true. They made that one good game. They did make that one game. Actually, make other good games. The game, Stalker, one and two. Is that a good game? Excellent game, yeah, really good. Russian developers.

There's also, oh, I could name more, but now I can't. There was one came out last year called, the one with the two good looking robot ladies that hunted you down shit Chad would know

Is this a game or a dream Scott? It was really a game It really was And it was like It was set in a world Where the Soviets became the dominant power

U.S. loss They win the Cold War And they're everywhere But then all these machines go nuts It reminded me a little bit of like Bioshock or Bioshock Infinite Okay

Atomic heart Atomic heart. It's not as good as those other games I mentioned, but it's okay, it's all right. As far as a rushing game goes. Okay, let's get Wendy in. Yeah. And make this happen.

Hold on one moment, please. Please. Here we go. Please to get Wendy. Please to get Wendy. And then we'll go from there. Here you go. I'll explain the situation to Wendy.

Don't worry. Yeah, don't worry. We have her here. My sister Wendy, an actual practicing therapist, comes over here on Thursdays and helps you people with your problems each and every week Wendy welcome back to the show thank you well every week but last week because I had jury selection duty and uh I didn't tell Wendy did you get out of it no I well I mean I got out of it but not I didn't try to they they took us out there's a whole there's a whole

story about this we've told it on the show already so I won't I won't bore everybody one more time with it but but I'll tell you the gist of it the just was at least I'm pretty sure this was a a case about something in technology and the reason this theory is prominent is because they only let the first wave of people they let go which included me were all people with really good webcams and good microphones

who also did not struggle to get on to this WebEx call they were doing whereas everybody else looked like crap everybody else was whatever and so our theory is they didn't want savvy people as part of this case they wanted somebody who was maybe a little bit more neutral to technology issues or something.

So that was it. Yeah, that was it. He was like, that dude's an idiot. He murdered someone through Zoom and I know how. But they of course made us sit and watch a half hour movie thing anyway, whether we were going to get kicked out or not. Yeah, it was really weird. I think I liked the remote thing, though,

because this would have been a whole day wasted down there. Yeah. And I have to go in, even if they would let me go. So anyway, two more years before I'm up. for the random. Yeah. Reeligibility. They give you a break because that was so taxing.

Yep, two years. Whether you serve, whether you actually get called to serve or you are let go or an alternate or any of that, you get two years until they ever put your name in the box again. Interesting. Yeah. And they paid me 1840. So I get $18. Oh.

Yeah. Wow. Okay. I'll let you know when it gets here in four to six weeks. I'll let you know. Yeah. Pay yourself a sandwich. It's like HQ trivia.

You really don't get to collect. until you get excused from five jury selection. Yeah, it's basically correct. Anyway, it's good to have you here. So before we do our follow-up to the whole roommate in your head thing, we got a call about this. Somebody has a theory. It's mostly about me, but I want to play it.

I want to play it and see if you think there's anything to this, because otherwise I just kind of found it not annoying, but I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. It doesn't sound right. But anyway, I'm just going to play it. Okay. So you take this for whatever it is. Here we go.

Hey, how you doing? This is Ray from Phil. Philadelphia. I'm just calling in reference to the episode with Wendy on the third that just passed. I just wanted to say my point of view is that the roommate in Scott's head is more like a studio audience. I've noticed that a lot of times you can tell if the laugh track is fake or not or if it's actually filmed in front of people. But yeah, Scott has so many voices, so many roommates in his head, I would, I would say that they're more attuned to a studio audience. All right.

He's basically claiming I have multiple roommate disorder. Like, I've got many of these voices in my head. Scott's head was filled before a live studio audience. Okay, can I just tell you something that was very weird hearing that? Yeah. Was like, I just had a quick moment of like, what is happening right now? I can tell you he's in his turn, he's in a turn lane. He's definitely turning left.

Yeah, it's definitely turning somewhere. And then when he said my, it's because I've heard that type of thing and voice and from Philadelphia, like it feels like, oh no, he's going to talk about us. Like somehow a famous call is happy. I don't know. That was very weird for me. Someone famous from Philly. That is weird.

Because I don't have a studio audience in my head at all. And so I suddenly am like, oh, someone in Philadelphia listens to this. I just have that moment every once in while where I'm like, well to his point though wouldn't it wouldn't it be it would have to be me who would perceive it as multiple voices in my head oh yeah and i don't he's he's uh saying that now now if you kind of do the work with somebody and break down their different the different voices you can find i i've called them committees or subcommittees i've never thought of as a studio audience uh because i feel like that role is a little different right so so the subcommittee member like hey we got to talk about this

you know like they're going to take things in different directions um whereas a an audience it's just supposed to laugh at jokes feels like a really different thing yeah it's it's weird um but i don't have that i don't have a sense that it's like multiple it almost sounds like what you're saying is it had to be conditional right so like a different voice when i'm on the air and thinking about what's being said or what's what's happening on a live show for example maybe that's a different internal voice than the voice where I'm trying to find the toothpaste and don't know where Kim put it or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yes. And you have not differentiated them. No, to me, they're the same, they're the same ding-dong in the back room. Same guy.

To me, it's not any different. But maybe as a point, because I don't, obviously we're doing this as an experiment so we can learn more about it. So maybe I just don't understand it. Yeah, I would say it's, it's more of a committee than a studio audience. And there's probably more than one. but if you experience it as more than one without having someone help you, then maybe that's a really different internal experience than someone else might have, right? That makes sense, sure. But for the most part, what I do with people is try to help them differentiate a little bit. So, for example, I'll just talk to a client about mom guilt, right?

She feels really guilty. She's super burned out. Feels really guilty that she's not with her kid, but needs a break. And not being with the kid to take the break, makes you feel guilty, blah, blah, blah. And what I could do is just say, okay, talk me through it. And you can hear the two voices come out. One will say, I feel so guilty. And then a second later, it'll be like, but I am really burned out and I do need a rest.

And you can just hear the back and forth. Yeah. Right? That's two perspectives. So it's kind of like if we think about the roommate in terms of the roommate has a perspective and it's going to just keep sharing that. It's going to bounce around maybe a little bit. But that's very different than, okay, now someone cuts you off on the,

freeway and you are in a rage. So who is currently driving the car when you are in when you're raging as opposed to how you were a few minutes before? So the idea is that we get better at just most people would say, oh, this is risky. What you're telling me is to see that I have multiple personalities. And that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we are all driven by different mental activity and forces. And if we can sort of label it as a group like a subcommittee or a committee or the roommate, what we're doing, and this is what leads, this leads nicely into what we're going to do today is what we're doing is we're removing whatever brain activity is happening, whatever thoughts, maybe feelings are happening. We put that into the observed place

and then we are in the seed of consciousness or the seed of observing. That's the self, right? So every major religion, every philosophical tradition will have words for this. I'm going to use the therapy word that I like the most, which is just self, right? So it's the self. Someone could say the soul, the whatever other energy words there are or whatever, right? But it's like who is doing the observing? That's the self. Now, what happens is we go along life and we're just living it. The thoughts and feelings will come. We identify with them so deeply in that moment. They derail whatever we're doing. And now we are angry. Now we are hungry. Now we are. What? We are going down a thought path, it's nuts.

The best version of this to hear that roommate, maybe the clearest, is when you're trying to fall asleep. And then your thoughts just go, right? So that's an example of like, hold on, I, self, everything about me is about to go to sleep. So who just walked in and interrupted me with the story? Right.

And so that idea of we spend a lot of time very much following down the path of whatever thought shows up or whatever feeling takes over and we don't maybe spend enough time in the seed of consciousness or self or the observer. Okay. So when you did your homework,

did anyone write in anything that their roommate said? Do we have any like fodder we could use? Probably. Hold on. Actually, I should have looked at this before and I forgot to. But let me pull up the latest Therapy Thursday stuff and replies. Here's one. Here we go.

Here's one from Justin. F we'll call him. He's from Kentucky. He says, Hey, Scott and Brian and Wendy, first time emailing. Phil, like since I can't be in the tadpole, I should email in. I've been enjoying the show for a few years now. Anyway, I wanted to email in after listening to Wendy's Therapy Thursday about the inner critic, really resonated with me as I've never considered the idea of the voice in my head being an inner critic. And as someone who's been very critical of himself his whole life, it was an interesting framing of the issue. By the way, I'll pause here. This is the number one thing that this has impacted me with as well. Is this idea. of categorizing it of of not just you just sort of have this this you know a doubter or even someone who's motivational but there's this thing in the back of your head that's always kind of pushing you around and you never you just think well that's just me you know that's part of me or whatever but when you frame it this way it changes how the whole thing gets perceived anyway I think that's what he's saying but also notice how he calls it the critic as opposed to the roommate It goes right to its function, its duty.

Yeah, it's probably a better term. It says, Wendy asked for a couple of sentences about what some of you think when you hear your mental roommate, and I wanted to give a few. You can use these bits if you want, so on and so forth. Here it goes. Quote, you're doing it wrong, unquote, came up a lot in my mind and I drifted to things I had been working on or when I was drifting. My mind was drifting to things I was working on. Next one was, nobody should like you or something along those line pops up a lot, which I now realizes my brain trying to prepare itself for rejection.

It says I was getting some, sorry, I was also getting some go to the gym and stop wasting time and be productive stuff, which seemed less bad than the other impulses. The voice actually sounds more like my father than myself. The rest is typically in my voice. Thankfully, I recently started antidepressants, which is quieting down those thoughts and some of the worst ones, and I've been in trying to respond back to that voice with positive things and the like. Anyway, just wanted to share some of that and say how much I appreciate the segment. You guys are great and help me through the days. I love the show though, Justin. So yeah,

I think he kind of has it down. Perfect. Justin. Amen. Good job. Yeah. And I think the thing he's articulating is really helpful. We'll just use that as our like jumping point. And you guys can share yours if he would like as well. So here you are, Justin. You're now the center of my therapeutic intervention. Your fault for writing in. Okay. But what's great is he's experiencing already the power of this, which is when we can sort of see that it's just someone else coming in with a thought, it's so much easier than thinking it's truth, right?

Because when our brain talks to us, this is why it does it, by the way. We will often believe it and follow it down, whatever rabbit hole it takes us on. But if you just observe long enough, you'll see it switch back and forth. So, for example, oh, I'm so scared. I'm going to, Scott, I'm going to get on a plane and poop my pants, okay? That's a part of you. That's a friend of yours who is always trying to have you not live their most embarrassing nightmare in real life.

That is his job. He will do it every time. And then when you go through a whole plane ride and don't poop your pants, which has been every single time that I'm aware of, what does that part of your brain do? Does it say, oh, my bad. got it wrong here's what's funny if you would have asked me uh I don't know let's say 2014 I would have told you that I felt like that that voice was uh it wasn't just a threat it was a promise yeah it was a guarantee if you ask me now I don't feel that way at all now I feel like the voice is still there but the voice says all right Scott you don't

want nervous guts on this plane so what are you going to do you're going to eat like a normal person the day before you're going to take care of yourself and you're not going to you're not going to do something dumb like you know eat a box of something you know whatever you know you don't want you want to you're going to limit your uh chances of any kind of problem like everyone does everybody's got to get on a flight they're they're have a similar thing they're not stupid and those that are you know drink too much the night before or whatever the problem is they always regret it so now that voice does that and i think that's i think it's progress i don't know why it even changed, but it feels like progress.

Well, it does feel like progress. Let's act like it's in the height of it for a second, though. Here's the thing about the roommate. If anyone's had a roommate, you would hate this kind for this very reason. This roommate does not come back and say, sorry, I gave you bad advice. This roommate will switch immediately to some other way to protect you if it's the protector kind, right? These are protectors.

and some act really childish or say really mean things like what was Justin's what was that mean one? Um, I don't know. Why does anyone like you? Oh, yeah, no one actually Hold on,

let me pull it up again. I just put it in. And your ideas are stupid or something like the work one? Sorry, I thought I had a memory of it. No, no, it's okay. I was dumb and archived it.

Um, let's see. But basically just mean, right? Yeah, mean to himself. sure yeah yeah so scott you're gonna crap your pants on this plane you better be careful and that's like a screaming panic friend here's a roommate he's just like okay no one likes you so there's that's what it is you're either so one of his was you're doing it wrong and the other one was nobody should like you which is an interesting way of putting that sentence right nobody should like you nobody should like you yeah it's crazy now you've got to remember and this is why we want

more time in the seed of observation and less time in the thick of whatever that thought is because then you can see it for what it is. And it is a part of you that comes in probably developed when you were younger. Now, I'm imagining you're doing it wrong. I mean, think of raising children. Think of every teacher ever, who ever existed. You are around people as a child who are telling you you're doing something right or wrong. wrong. And it's happening with a lot of frequency, right? So notice, I mean, there's there's people who will explain things like, you know, people pleasers or perfectionism or they go into a store and they don't buy anything, but they're pretty sure everyone thinks they've just stolen something. So they're acting

weird on the way out and hope they don't get caught. I've done that before. I've totally. I've totally done that. Yeah. You think that comes from nowhere? It's weird. Like, I do it in Apple stores because I don't need to get anything, but I'll walk around looking at cool stuff. And then I'll kind of just, you know, and there are employees everywhere, right? They're all over the place. So I kind just walk out, hands in my pockets like, I already own this phone. Don't come, you know. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, exactly. This is mine. I'm in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. So that why are a bunch of adults walking around pretty sure they're going to get in trouble any minute? I don't know. And that's because we've spent our whole lives potentially getting trouble in trouble any

minute for doing something wrong. So when somebody has a part of us, say, you're going to do that wrong, that is a preemptive, I'm going to protect you from having somebody, your boss get mad at you. I mean, have you ever seen a child playing or doing something and then they get disciplined in the middle of it, the shock, the like, I didn't see that coming, I don't, you know, that will set you up your nervous system, the rest of your life, to be prepared for that type of thing, right? Yeah.

So you go to therapy, you work on those stories from your past with your family of origin and or trauma or other experiences that you've had that build this voice in your head, this voice that is trying to help you. But here's the problem. We all think that voice is true. What it's saying is real. And then we follow it. So, for example, you wake up in the night.

You have this thought. It's like jumping on a speeding train, right? You're now on the train. You're going to follow it all the way until the dead end of the train. But what if you could get off the train or never get on the train? And the voice or the part or the roommate could just show up and say, are you not terrified that you will die one day? And you can be the observer and be like, whoa, that is fascinating that here at 3 a.m.

A part of me is like, are you not afraid to die? Interesting. Right? Like finding that. And so you can call it Zen. A lot of meditators work really hard to be in this space. face. It's not easy just to be there. There's a three-part series here. I forgot to tell you there is one more part after this. And that's going to be the like nitty-gritty how to do this. And we'll get to that. But this sort of second hour time is just to talk about how we can strengthen this observation part of us rather than the, we call it blending in certain therapy modalities that you blend with the part of you. So the panic part, you're going to take a dump on a plane. When you blend with that part, you are literally activating your whole nervous system is

activated to either poop or prevent you from poop. So it has a self-fulfilling prophecy problem, right? It does, yeah, yeah. Right? So you're going to fail at this. If you blend with that part and you identify and that story is real and true, you are likely going to sabotage whatever you're doing and it will fail. Yeah.

Right? It's a form. You're really moving toward, we're talking mindfulness again here, right? That is really what this ends up being. It's just being mindful of that voice and then, quote, unquote, blending with it so that, I don't know, you have a greater say in the conversation, I guess. 100%. And here's the best part. And this is the trick.

You don't have to have, you don't have to do anything. And that is actually the key. The key is not doing something. We are so used to doing to solve, to prevent, to, you know, we have an idea and we jump up and do that idea, right? Like we are getting dragged around all day by this development of the human brain to tell stories, to move you in particular directions to protect you. So if we want to go caveman conversations, like think of the stories that had to be put in place to keep you surviving to the next generation that may or may not have been true. Right. So there's a wrestle in the bushes.

Oh, that's something terrifying. so I don't go check it out, but someone else does and gets eaten or someone else does and maybe gets some blueberries. But your brain goes, I don't care. Next time there's a rustle, I'm not going to think it's blueberries. I'm still going to think. Yeah, in defense mode. Yeah.

That you're going to defense mode. Right. So it is a survival response. And here's what mindfulness is, is it's like a brain workout to make it easier to do this thing. Right. So I can practice not following my thoughts and being stronger as, an observer of the thoughts, and that is incredibly helpful. But I want everyone who is not meditating

and may think they never will to also just get a taste of this. And then you might understand why meditators are relentless because they have to be to practice this, right? So this idea of, and so maybe you experienced a little bit, Scott. So Brian, how about you as you kind of just paid attention to the roommate? Do you feel like you had a better sense of this separateness as well? Yeah, like I was, because I was basically actively looking for it. And he's, talks a lot more than, than, uh, that I originally gave him credit for, especially when I'm driving. He is the, you know, he is the, uh, watch out for that dude. Like, you know, that guy's, oh, that guy's totally coming over. Like, he's basically the, uh, the backseat driver,

because he's not complaining about my driver, but he's complaining about everybody else on the road. So I don't have to. Yeah. See? See, he's doing a favorite, right? He's actually helping me out. So in the moment, you heard. him talking do you remember how you did that how did you go from who that guy's a crazy driver I better be careful and buying into it and being 100% on board with everything the roommate saying to knowing it was the roommate oh I mean well I was basically as soon as I started talking as the roommate I was I was fully aware because of our because of therapy Thursday two weeks ago whereas basically this is roommate talking yeah okay

I mean, it was basically I was like, all right, fully aware. And it didn't, you know, it didn't stop me. I mean, it didn't stop him from talking continuing. He'll never stop talking. But did you feel some of the same feelings you might have otherwise? Like, did it shift anything because you were observing as opposed to? I mean, I never really felt any anxiety. I mean, I guess, I guess if anything else, it was maybe just relief of.

of knowing that he's kind of there to watch out for me, which, you know, came from, again, the discussion two weeks ago. Not really anything else. And it's sort of like, oh, would that guy just shut up or anything like that? It's like, yep, he's apparently on guard. He's keeping an eye on the, he's the defensive driver so I can just focus on getting Sally to the coffee bean and tea leaf. Right.

Right. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So that's a pretty benign. example of like roommate is not taking you for a literal ride right you you could move in consciousness away from it and observe it and see it but totally and definitely like you know your buddy on a road trip kind of thing like uh watch out for this guy he's looking around like he's going to change lanes

without signaling sure enough there he did it yeah yeah yeah and then i go and then i go jackass and then that's you in your seat of course that's me that's not the roommate yeah yeah Okay. And this can be really hard to figure out for some folks. And for some folks, this comes up pretty naturally. They're like, oh, I can see that separation. Oh, that makes sense. And the more you spend time sort of being observant, you can, it's just easier not to blend with it or follow it down a rabbit hole. So that would be the, I'm trying to get some work done and some thought pops in my head. And now it has completely derailed me. Or now I'm going to search for whatever that. thing is that just popped in my head and now I've lost an hour of productivity because I followed whatever cue my brain gave me. Um, and that can cause lots of, uh, different challenges. Okay. Now, we can just say, all right, there's like the average looking thing. Brian, you're driving thing is a good example. We're going to take this darker. So let's take Justin's example of, um, you're going to do this wrong. And so he's just kind of doing life and he starts

to think about work and the roommate pops in and says you're going to do this wrong you know you're doing this wrong now it's very powerful to figure out the source of that like why did this part ever come into your life to warn you about that and kind of see if you can work with that that's the job of the therapist for sure but there's another thing we can do with it here and this is what I want today to be about and then um the last week's going to get even better uh this is this is quite the miniseries. I know. Look at this. It's a mini series. I keep trying to like, how do I make this like a mini series? You've got to build suspense and somehow I need to get re-upped for next season. So I got a cliffhanger. You got the writer strike right now. What they're called, the

upfronts are coming up. That's right. That's right. But you can't promote it. If you're a SAG member, you can't promote it until all this stuff's over. So yeah. Exactly. So I'm helping out in the meantime. Okay. So the idea is he has this thought. The roommate said, you're going to fail at this. And here's what, if Justin's listening, I want him to do and I want anyone to do. If you look at your list, you look at some of the things your roommate has said, I want you to find one that makes your heart clench. Like, you know, like the sphincter that it is. I want your heart to clench. Okay. It does have, it's got sphincters in it. It's got little sphincter muscles in your part. 100%. Yeah. And it literally feels pain. So it is a, it's

So notice a roommate says a sentence you wrote down because you observed it. And now I'm telling you to look at that sentence and I can get your heart to clench. Yeah. That's pretty cool. That is cool. That I have that kind of power over you. But that is exactly the power of the thoughts the roommate repeats to you has over you. So your heart gets tight and clenched.

Okay. I need you both to do this with me. Okay. So think about some of the stuff your roommates like to say to you and what gets your heart to seize up or or feel heavy. kind of blocked, stopped, that kind of feeling. Okay. What if we know already what that is? Yeah, good.

Great. All right. You want to tell us? You don't have to. It's just, well, I guess I could tell you. I used to think that when my kids would grow up and kind of move out, that this would go away. I was wrong because now I do it with Taylor's kids. but I stress about their safety a lot.

Like physical safety? Yeah. So I'm like, oh, you know, I heard Van went to the water park today. And I immediately go, don't get hurt there. I'd feel so bad. I can't imagine a world without those kids. And, you know, this kind of like catastrophizing I do. And I do that with them now.

Okay. Great. It's just dumb because Taylor's really good mom and is very careful with the kids. Oh, did everyone just hear it? Scott's other part joined in, his logical part. Yeah, my logical part popped in and said, hey, dumbass. Yeah. Okay.

All right. So go back to the, it's a fear part. We'll call it that. Okay. The fear roommate comment is, what if something bad happens to those kids? It causes your heart to clench. Yeah. So here is that the logical part's attempt is to get you to soothe that, right?

So that's another part that's developed to try to help. like okay nothing's going to happen you've got to relax taylor's a good mom so it tried to soothe you yeah but i'm going to show you guys how to do something that is just you doing it not other thoughts okay okay so so you are in your seat of consciousness right you are observing the thought can you do that can you sort of see the thought coming in yeah rather than yeah you can see it's separate from you i do is it weird that i i'm also picturing the kind of chair i'm in that's weird right no not Not at all. It's perfect.

Sit in your seat. And this is why you dang people with imaginations. This works so well for you guys. So picture the part saying, oh, no, make him whatever your brain makes him great. He's coming in with the fear. So here's your fear part. And your heart is clenching because that crap is contagious, right? You tell anyone a kid's in danger, every one of us will have our heart clench.

Immediately. Okay. Now, this is just a part that's getting your attention. It only has one line, and it's been using it for, I guess, 30 years now. One of your kids is going to be harmed, right? So you feel the feeling in your heart, and I don't want you to do anything with thoughts. I want you to just try this thing where you can feel it. I can feel it right now, right?

Can you feel it in your heart? Okay. Now just take a second and, like, breathe deeper. and try to relax the actual muscles around your heart, your chest cavity, your heart itself, just breathe, use oxygen, breathe, just try to relax all that tissue. Hmm. It's weird. I've never tried to do that before. It's a weird feeling. Yeah. Okay. Is it relaxed a little bit? Yeah. Okay. More than it was.

So now I want you to look at the part again that's, It's going to come tell you your grandchildren are in danger. Make sure it's separate from you. Oh, it is like a little goblin. It's got horrible. Yeah, I know it does. Okay. So then make sure your heart's relaxed again.

Just keep focusing on the thing you can control here that the self has power over is to then initiate relaxation response in your, wherever you feel the feeling, right? So maybe it could be someone's gut, you know, someone's calf, whatever. The idea is to, you see it coming and you, you condition yourself, I guess, habitually here to react to it with the breathing and the, in the relaxation, yeah, exactly. And to see it as someone, it really is the kid who's crying wolf. Like, there's no wolf. And yet it feels like you've got to battle up and get ready, right? And that's what your body does. That's why it did it. Like you didn't say, hey, heart, clamp down because something scary is. coming it's our autonomic nervous system it's just going to do it right so but you so suddenly we

have energy think of it as like there's an energetic response in your heart a chemical response that causes everything to constrict you are just going to use your mind yourself to relax that okay so do it until you are your heart is totally unclenched and relaxed feel pretty good right now about you Brian oh I'm good I didn't I wasn't uh didn't have this part I didn't have just listening yeah I'm just listening because I was taking it in I like it but my heart doesn't clench up when I think about what could happen to your kids just kidding Brian's evil of course it does right but Brian needs facts Brian Brian Brian Brian has a jackass part

he doesn't have the hey hey this may fake thing could happen and you should panic about it about your grandchildren like you do, right? We all have our own versions for various reasons. I'm glad you didn't call on me yet because I was trying to think of what my my panic thing is. Well, we have an ongoing side chat all about how we all want Ryan's roommate. That's who we want in our lives. But now that I know there's a jackass part, maybe I don't want your roommates.

No, no. Well, no, I'm the jackass part. Basically, my roommate settles down and just says you got this. And I go, jackass! Yeah. So folks who tend to have more anxiety would relate to this maybe a little quicker, right? Because their heart, their nervous system will do exactly this thing very quickly. Stories are very compelling. And so that is a place where a lot of practice can happen of relaxing. Because again, this part is never going to come in and say, oh, the kids got home safe from the swimming park. Oh, great. I'm sorry to scare you. Yeah. I'll look at facts. next time. No, what it's going to do is, oh, oh, kids are going to be in a car. You know, like it will just keep doing this, right? And you can imagine how much of your life, if we timed, we like had a timer every time your heart clenched because you were worried about one of your

kids' safeties, add that all up. How much time is that? It's a lot. It's a lot of time. And so you just, in the few seconds of breathing and relaxing the tissue around your heart clenching, just shows a different road. And I'm using the word on purpose here shows because it doesn't feel like a choice when anxious thoughts come in and they take you on a ride. I know that.

It doesn't feel like a choice. But if you practice being in the center of, or this different seat, the observer seat, and you can say, okay, a part of me, and that's why we talk that way to say a part of me is really scared right now.

Even just using those words helps not, I am scared, I am terrified, I'm on fire. You know, it's a part of me is pretty freaked out, worried about the kids, and I can feel my heart clench, and I can, and then you know what to do with this. And if you do it early, instead of, and everyone's done this before, instead of having your mind taken on a ride really far, and suddenly time has passed and, you know, like, it's so much worse, you've made up new stories, like it just keeps getting worse. you can just, at the very beginning, try this.

And what happens is the part that's trying to scare you about the kids tend to quiet down because you're quiet. Because the observer. And sometimes they just wander away. Sometimes they're like, did you hear me? I'm on my way, but the kids are going to die. And then they'll just keep going. You just don't have to jump on the train.

And that's, so this idea of practicing, like having a, it's a physical practice to calm and relax yourself. And it's as simple as breathing. And it's as simple as thinking about the tissue and trying to relax it. So like right now, Brian, your foot, cramp it for me. Ready? Make it weird and cramp it. All right.

It's cramped. All right. Now relax it. Okay. All right. How's that feel? Relaxed. It feels like I did a stretch.

Yeah. Feels a little bit good, right? Yeah. And that is right there. Brian just did what he was told. So maybe he'd say he didn't have a choice. But he did. He chose to cramp it.

He chose to relax it. I feel like when you're telling me to do something, Wendy, I don't have a choice. That's what I'm worried about. But just that idea of like you can practice some things with your body that are very much a choice. It's just if we're so in our head, it's hard to access that. And so that would be why mindfulness meditation is so powerful to help this become easier and easier and easier to do. It doesn't mean you'll ever be 100% free of it. the more you can just see thoughts as parts of you coming and going, you know, not always

jumping on all these trains, or really just questioning the roommate a little in the sense of not like you're like, you're a liar, but often it's lying. Like often. So why when we were a bear was in the bushes and the wrestling, the brain does not care if it's lying or not. It is just trying to not get you killed. But if you look at modern. brain activity. Most of the stuff it's telling you is a lie. So if you, if you follow it all the way through, you will find that, oh, it'll change its mind at any point. Whatever it takes to just try to protect you for some pretend scary thing, right? And then some people will have experiences where that feeling is so real and overwhelming and it's, and then they, you know, follow the thought and

it saves their lives. So this is where it can be a little confusing. Like, well, when should I actually run? When am I, you know. So we're not going to talk about that today because that that is real too. You see smoke, don't just relax your heart and lay there, you know? Right. Yeah, we do. We need our system. Yeah. Exactly. And so we're just trying to address it in this way that it harms us. And that's why first identifying what the roommate talks about can be really helpful because then you know it has a strategy. It talks certain ways. It like get to know it. But you only get to know someone not by being in their actual shoes and in their body and being them. You get to know them by sitting. across from them in your own seat and listening. And that's what you're doing. Just observe, right. Okay.

And then what we're going to do next week is take as specific, and this is what be helpful if someone could write in, something that is very particular that continues to have, kind of like what Scott shared a little bit today, of like, let's call it a thorn in your arm or thorn in your side, and what we do with that. So if anyone's lived long enough, you will have experience maybe a repetitive place

where you just kind of always have some pain. And then we're going to talk about what we do with that type of thing, how to actually get that out of your life and then kind of some other things they can do to keep going with us. Okay. So anyone got a thorn in their side. They want to share. But they need to have observed it, right? They need to at least do this step one and step two where they have observed it,

maybe practiced relaxing whatever tenses up around that thing. Yeah. But it's something they've noticed throughout their life, and then we'll talk about how to tackle it. The morning stream at gmail.com, you guys, is where you want to send that. And then we'll share those next week and, you know, cherry pick a couple of them, depending on how long they are and that sort of thing. But if you want to share yours, that would be awesome. All right. Well, there you go.

Phase two, Del Loco Vista, complete, phase three. I've written down the topics for each one. So episode one was, understand your inner roommate. Episode two is to soften, to actually learn to soften your heart or whatever it. is that tenses up and let go of that buildup of energy. So did we do that? I feel like we did that. Yeah, I feel like we did that. Okay, good. And next week will be a whole other bag of chicken. So come back then. Solve all your problems. That's what I have for next week. Yeah. Are you, Brian, when do you

fly next week? When do you want to? Come in. Oh, you won't be here, will you? So you'll have a, you'll have a guest co-host for. I actually fly into Salt Lake on Thursday. So I can't do it either. Oh, duh. I forgot you were doing that. We're having dinner and stuff and all that stuff, aren't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do you come to here? I cannot believe this. You're coming right back to Bear Lake because this time but with your friends, right? Yeah.

So hilarious. That's so weird. Why could you schedule those back to back? Yeah. We were supposed to go to like up in McCall to some nice place up there, but it didn't work with or in Idaho for someone's schedule. So we're like, okay, Bear Lake. I'm like, are you kidding me?

You were just there. You were literally just in Bear Lake. Oh my gosh. It was so pretty though. I feel like I can handle it. No. And this time, this time you won't have a 92-year-old grumpy piece.

a garbage man there with you. So you can just chill and enjoy ourselves. Literally damaging my children's psyches. Also, maybe there won't be a traffic jam for one hour getting out of Logan Canyon. Holy. Oh, yeah. I don't know what happened there. We didn't leave until Monday and we didn't have any of that.

So I don't know what happened. Was that just people getting out of town? Oh, it was just one guy with like a light that he was moving out of the road. I don't know. That's all I saw by the time I got to it. Oh, it'd be so annoying. But it did make me laugh because there were multiple people who got out of their cars and were just walking. Yeah.

Because it was so slow and then they'd finally catch up or whatever. And so I saw some pretty hilarious stuff. And it made me laugh like, who are the ones that get out? See? Did they get kicked out? Right, right. It was funny. But it's good.

You were just observing like we talked about, see. Yes, I was just observing. I did not get out of my car. That's right. Well, have a good, I guess, couple of weeks then. We'll see you when you're back. Brian will be back. Everybody will be back.

and we will follow up on part three of this epic journey. Thank you, Justin, and thank you, Guy, from Philly. Yes, thank you, Philly, man. We'll see you next time. Bye now. All right. Hey, Brian. Yes, sir.

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So you got your cover bill at noon. You got 5 p.m. Mountain Time for Core tonight. We've got a big Corps planned. We're going to try not to be three more hours of Balders Gate 3 talk. Okay, we're going to try to mix it up a little bit. Something else in there? Yeah, because that game, it's now, okay,

it's now the highest rated game in the history of Metacritic. Nothing's ever had a higher average score. Wow. PC Gamer just finally put their review up because the game's so big. They gave it their highest score in 16 years. They haven't given another 97 in 16 full years of game reviews. They gave it a 97. It's about as high as you get over there.

That thing is legitimately a monster. It's so good. So good. So we'll talk about it tonight, but it won't be, I'm going to try really hard not to have to be wall-to-wall. To make it all Balder's game all the time. Because I'm sure there's some people who are like, I don't want to hear about that game. I don't play those games or something. And I'd like it to be an entertaining show for them as well.

Of course. Of course. Anyway, that's tonight at 5 p.m. Mountain. So check that out. There'll also be a more core video going up today at some point from Bo talking about the self-same game. Oh, nice. We've got a guest the connection tomorrow morning at 9. Oh, that's right.

We've got a couch party tomorrow at 10. That's right. Patrons, here's the deal. I will start putting a post in Patreon right before we do these couch parties. Because I know some of you're like, oh, I totally forget when it is. And no one notifies me. So I'm going to start doing that so you know when it's happening. So we can get more of us in there on Friday.

But yeah, tomorrow 10 p.m. She Hulk continues episode 5, I think. 5N6. Maybe we'll do 5N6. Yeah, we can. We have an hour. 95 and 6. Sure.

And then what was the other thing? Oh, FilmSack this weekend. Live, die, repeat, or as they called it in theaters, next to tomorrow. What was it? Edge of tomorrow. The edge of tomorrow. Stupid title. It really is.

Amazing movie, terrible title. Do watch it, though, because it's fantastic. Just watched it last night so I can start working on my intro and holy cow, I love that movie. It's hard for me not to. It's so good. There's hardly anything in it I can criticize, honestly. It's just. Yeah.

Just Emily Blunt's chicken. That's what my song's going to be about is all about Emily Blent's chin. And it fits your whole time loopy thing. It does. It's perfect timing, you know, unplanned perfect timing for my film sack bonus episode. And if you're not a film sack patron, you should be because Brian's host episode this month was very good. And rave reviews from all the people's. Well done.

Very nice of people to say such nice things about it. In four months, he'll do the exact same show because he's in a time loop. as well. Exactly, yes. It'll be great. Patreon.com slash TMS is how this show stays afloat. Most of you already know this. Those of you who are already in there, we owe you a great debt,

and we hope to continue to be making this show well into the future because of you. And if you haven't been like that, well, I understand. Maybe it's a little tight this month. Or maybe you're like, I don't know if I ever want to pay for a podcast. Let me tell you, 16 episodes a month for a dollar. And that's just the raw episodes? Silly. Silly how it expensive it is.

It's stupid what we've done, okay? But we did it, and we're willing to eat it. Just get in there, because we need more of you is the reason. Patreon.com slash TMS. Find out all the details today right there. Let's get out of here. Play a song to get us out. Okay.

Vito Sestito. Vito Sestito. That's what he wrote in said. Rodin said, hi, Snells Beach and Balcutha. Today has me joining you in the 54th year on this third rock from the sun. I've been a fan since discovering Scott on the instance in 2010 and very quickly became a convert to the morning stream. Help me celebrate my birthday.

Oh shit. Let's party. Man, you opened the door and I sat there staring at it like an idiot. That's okay. By playing David Burns' upbeat cover of Cole Porter's Don't Fence Me In. Thank you for all the content you produce and keeping me entertained on the many miles. traveled getting to and from work each day. Love the show, though.

An Italio-Australian now living in New Zealand, Vito Sestito. I thought they weren't allowed to do that in those two countries. They're not supposed to mix, right? They're not supposed to trade people. Don't they hate each other or something? Everything I've ever seen shows all kinds of conflicts, so I don't know how it works. Well, in this case, they're allowing it. Yeah, so Vito, great cover.

This came out in 1990 on the tribute to Cole Porter, called Red Hot and Blue. Dude, there was so much great stuff on there. Iggy Pop, Debbie Harry. I think Annie Lennox did a song. I think she did every time we say goodbye. Cole Porter, which is great timing. No, Johnny Mercer is what I'm thinking of?

Cole Porter, is he connected? He's not connected to Savannah anyway. Never mind. I don't think so. Forget that. It's Johnny Mercer that I'm thinking of. Anywho, here's the cover of Don't Fence Me in by the Talking Head Zone. Same as it ever was, David Byr.

Oh, give me line, lots of land, lots of land, not the stories, guys above, don't fence me in, let me ride through the wide, open country that I love, don't face me in, let me be by myself in the evening breeze, listen to. to the murmur of the cottonwood trees Send me off forever But I ask you please Don't fence me in Don't fence me in Just turn me loose

Let me straddle my own saddle Underneath the western skies On my cayuse Let me wander over yonder Until I see the mountains rise I want to ride to the rid Where the West commences Gaze at the

until I lose my senses I can't look at hobbles and I can't stand fences don't fence me in don't fence me in Woo! Give me land, lots of land And the starry skies above

Don't fence me in Let me ride through the wide open country that I love Don't fence me in Let me be by myself in the evening breeze Listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees Stem me off forever, then I ask you please Don't fence me in Don't bend the end

Just turn me loose Let me straddle my own saddle Underneath the western skies On like I use Let me wander over yonder Till I see the mountains rise I want to ride to the ridge Where the west commences

Gaze at the moon until I lose my senses I can't look at humbles And I can't stand fences Don't fence me in Don't fence me Don't fence me Don't fence me Don't fence me

Don't fence me Don't fence me Don't fence me Don't face me Don't face me Don't face me Don't face me Don't fence me

Don't fence me Get more at frogpants.com. What does it feel like to play, Simon? I don't know.