The Morning Stream - TMS 2510: General Grievous Hug

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

This kid we made up is a bastard. The Galavant trap. Don't need a Full Ass Whopper. Hot Tub Pee Machine. 100% More Brian. All we need is a river of blood. Pro-Nature, Anti-Nurture. California Is Just A Disaster Movie. So Rare No One Has it. Killed By A Goomba. The Not-So-Magic Mountain. Muster of Clushrooms. Immaculate Snake Eggs. The Bomb & The Whatnot. There's something in the water with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TMS is brought to you daily by and large by the support of patrons at patreon.com slash TMS, like Misplaced Geek, Cal L, and Biff Smith coming up on TMS. This kid we made up is a bastard. The Gellivan Trap. Don't need a full-ass whopper. Hot tub pee machine. 100% more Brian. All we need is a river of blood.

Pro nature, anti-nurture. California is just a disaster movie. So rare, no one has it. Killed by a Gumba. The not-so-magic mountain. muster of clutch rooms immaculate snake eggs the bomb and the whatnot there's something in the water with bobby and more on this episode of the morning stream unless i grievously misremember there's a little canteen on the other side of yon rimrocks and if i'm in luck there'll be customers there amenable to drawing up in a circle around a deck of cards ah The morning stream. Don't eat that. It's Pluto. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's Monday, August 21st, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian.

Hello. Hello, Brian. Enjoy Brian while you have him. All right. That's right. Yeah, you only get half of me this week. You get two out of four, Brian. Exactly. And you only get. And it turns out you're only going to get three out of four Scots because Thursday just so happens. I have a doctor's appointment and Wendy won't be here and you won't be here. So we're not doing a show on Thursday. Yeah, nothing Thursday. All right.

Fair enough. Well, good. But Wednesday? Then I don't feel bad. Then, you know, so it's. Don't feel as bad. 25% less Scott, 50% less Brian, unless you're one of the lucky few people who are going to hang out with me in Asheville, North Carolina, in which you case, in which case you get like, 400% more Brian than you normally get.

Yeah, this is a real test for people. If you already like Brian, chances are more Brian is a good thing. If you are super bugged by Brian, you will love to learn that you shouldn't be bugged by him. So another positive experience. Then there'll be a small. I think it's just going to amplify. Like, yeah, freaking Brian. Why is it taking so long in the one bathroom that we have in these two buildings?

Oh my gosh. How many bathrooms do you have that kind of stuff? freaks me out. Do you have enough bathrooms? No, we have six bathrooms. We have six bathrooms and eight bedrooms. So bathrooms will be a plenty. And if, you know, if they're all closed, there is a hot tub. Oh my lord. All right. Just remember if it smells chlorinated, that means there's pee in it. That's what I, that's what I was told. That's what I've been told. That's correct. If it smells clean, you're good. You can get in. Exactly. Right. It's the, it's the smell. It's when chlorine's working on cleaning your pee that it smells. Is that what you've learned?

I've been told. I hope I've been told the truth all these many years. Well, we got, we're going to get in whatever we can get in in these next two days together. Wednesday, Bobby will be sitting in for Brian, but it'll be a fun week nonetheless. All right. And I'm in a great,

I'm in a great mood and I don't know why. I don't understand why I shouldn't be in a great mood. I slept like shite. Oh, really? I did. And also my doctor, which is part of this appointment, has me on some new medication for it's a whole thing

but it's mostly made me feel gross all the time but not this morning I feel great cool I feel real good I don't know why I can't explain it

maybe it's these altoyed I had an altoyed this morning maybe that's what did it I don't know what's going Oh yeah well those are curiously strong That's what I've heard Curiously Curiously strong mint

But anyway we're We're happy to be here With you fine folks And I would like to ask A nature question about nature, all right? We don't, you and I are not opposed to having topics dealing with nature. We appreciate nature.

We believe in it. We're, uh, we support it. We're basically, uh, pro nature. Yeah, I think we're even part of nature in a way, you know? Yeah. Human beings, the way we are. Human beings are as much part of this world as anything else, even though we kind of eff it up sometimes.

But nature being what it is, sometimes it's worth talking about. By the way, speaking in nature, I hope. All our California, West Coast friends are okay. A lot of deluge going on, a lot of water. Jeez. If it's not, you know, if it's not fires, it's heavy, you know, torrential downpours or excessive heat or hurricanes. Yeah. Hurricanes in the case of California.

Did they end up closing Disneyland, by the way? We were talking to... Oh, I don't know. Did they? Maybe. We were talking to Senior Geek. Gary. We were talking to Gary about it on Saturday morning.

And they were talking about potentially closing Disneyland. Let's see. Disneyland closed early due to Hurricane Hillary. So not entirely. Knottesbury Farm and Six Flags closed entirely for the day. Wow. Not so much magic on that mountain. No, no.

The Magic Kingdom was a little bit not so magical. Yes, exactly. It was an hour less magical. I was thinking last night they should rename California. Old Testament because they've got the fire, the hurricane, the earth... Oh, they had an earthquake yesterday

in the middle of all this. That's another thing they had. A pretty sizable one. They got it all. They got all the Old Testament curses. All they need now is a river of blood and like... Those locusts, remember from Vegas a few years ago?

Get those out there? Oh, the grasshoppers are the locust. Yeah, the plague of grasshoppers all over Vegas, which I was there two weeks later. and saw one grasshopper. That's so weird. The videos we saw made it seem like you were going to be digging through corpses. Like they were clustered around everything.

Like every, you know, at the swimming pool, it was basically going to be a layer of grasshoppers on the top of the water. Yeah, like you'd wade through them, like you'd be up to your knees in corpses, but it didn't happen. Anyway, we wish you all the best, okay? I know it's not quite as bad as like, you know, Florida's ding-dong hanging out in the middle of the eye of a hurricane, but still lots of floods.

and weirdness. Also, a lot of dumb people online. Can I express one complaint? Oh, sure, yeah. All right. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. People started posting videos of what looked like horrible flooding moments, like water

rushing through small towns. And people online were going, oh, my gosh, the devastation. I mean, they were believing it. They were that tour from Universal Studios, the one with the water. The flash flood tour, you're on the bus and you're watching the water comes. Yes. And I realized that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. The ratio of people who don't know that that wasn't real is the same ratio of people

who have never been to Universal Studios before because it was obvious to me. You were looking outside of the tram thing or the car. You could tell immediately what it was. The people are taking pictures of the Jaws thing and saying that was part of it. There was a shark in the water. And there were people going, oh, the devastation. A giant monkey is terrifying reaching in this earthquake in the subway station, too. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, the Subboy Station where that water breaks through and pours through. People are like, this is the Metro down, L.A. Metro, something, something. Were they really? They did that one, too? Yeah. And people are going, pray for... How did they work the Sylons into that, by the way? They never filmed that part, funny enough.

Oh, darn. Weirdly enough, they never showed anything that would make it obvious. But there were people in there going, pray for California. Pray for California. I'm like, okay, go ahead and pray for California. But don't pray for this part. Right, exactly. the Universal Studios back lot ride is doing just fine.

Your prayers are not needed. Yeah. And then one guy posted this one and got a ton of action on his tweet. And it said, and everybody kept saying, that's Universal Studios. He goes, where's the lie? And the point was, in his statement, he said, this is happening right now in Studio City is what he said. Well, okay.

So that is accurate. Yeah. But what a, that is the, that's the state of the bullshit in our world. Yes, exactly. And every time anybody would say it. I'm going to double down. And he did it like 12 times in his thread. Where's the lie?

Point out the lie. Where's the lie? Like the lie is you suck, you turd. Anyway. Exactly. Well, here's my nature moment. And we've had some rain as well. I don't know if it's tied to this, but it seems like a lot of extra rain the last couple days.

And I was out walking the dog near a ravine that's sort of, you know, we have that lake. And then when it gets too high, it has kind of a runoff, I don't what you call. It's like a little metal shelf they built. can raise it or lower it. Oh, okay. So if they need to let water out, they can lower it, and down it goes. Almost like a lock, but not. Right.

Or a movable dam. I don't know what to call it. It's probably a word for this. Anyway. Usually they have like a circular, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of thing with those, yeah. Yeah, and I think this one's like, I've seen it move before. I'm pretty sure it's like someone's doing it from an office somewhere.

It's like a remote thing. Yeah, they don't have to have people who have. All right. But anyway, this thing, we'll have water in it quite often, especially during the months where we have rain. And that was happening. And I was out walking the dog. And there's a part of it toward the end of it where there's a park.

And then it goes underground and then off to whatever aquifer it goes to. And there it gets a little stagnant, like some stuff's grown up in there. And it kind of sits quite a bit. And I look in there. I see some kind of, I thought it was mushrooms, like a cluster of mushrooms to me. I get closer. And it's snake eggs. oh wow okay like 30 of them oh geez all bunched up and no other no snake mom or dad

no snake around no protect these things i mean maybe they were but again high grass it's hard to tell they're i wasn't going to get in there and look because who knows and i'm not even sure what kind of snake it was for all i know they were just garters no big deal yeah they're going to hurt anybody but they may have been something else i don't know but anyway i saw this huge clutch of of eggs and my first thought was i i'm 100% sure that it's if some idiot 14-year-old chodebag teenager sees these eggs, he will take a stick and break them apart. I just know it. I'm just convinced of it.

Like, I'm going to see it and go, ah, nature. I will keep walking and admire these eggs. But this kid's going to see it, maybe like I would have when I was 14, and go, Ew, look what's inside. These are half-built snakes. Whatever. And for a hot second, I was like, should I call? animal control or some something, some, some city, something that's, that protects stuff like this.

Animal, like animal, uh, um, is there animal protection? It's animal control. Yeah. I mean, they're still, they don't have to just get stray dogs and cats. Animal control helps with all sorts of, um, uh, uh, situations like this. Do you think they would move it or do you think they would tell me to pound sing? Or lose it? they'd move it or lose it. They would move it or lose it. I don't know if they would do anything. Yeah, they might, yeah, exactly.

Get Joel McHale. That's apparently the one thing that Joel McHale can do is animal control and community, but not remakes of IT crowd. Oh, yeah, can't get through that. Yeah, for anyone who didn't know, Joel McHale was doing a U.S. pilot for the IT crowd, go ahead now and feel as shocked as I was because that was weird news. I did not know they did that. Or did, yeah, did a, right.

Yeah, they did a pilot never aired. They didn't get greenlit, but weird, weird. But, yeah, no, I think animal control will maybe do something or maybe not, but at least they'll be aware of it. At least they'll give you, at least they'll, you can feel like you've given it to the right people if you let animal control know about it. And maybe they'll put up a sign, maybe they have signs made that say, warning, snake eggs. Yeah. But I worry that that 14-year-old will see that as an imitation. you know right it'll be exactly that he might have that 14 year old might have missed it had it not

been for uh um for the sign i don't know i still say that would be the i think you're right i'm going to go down there here's what i'm going to do today going down there after the show yeah i'm going to drop a pin on where i'm at like exact coordinates i'm going to call those guys given my with the GPS of the location and just say there's a clutch of snakes here i don't know or eggs i don't know if you guys want to do anything and I'll just leave it to them because what else can I do? I can't take these home and like put them in the tub and hope for the best. I'm not doing that. So I think I'll do that. If it's still there, if I go down there and I'll bust it up, either they hatched or a kid did a thing and I don't know either way. I won't know.

You might be able to see like if you see a bunch of snakes, like if the eggs are broken open and there's no snakes inside, then it probably happened naturally. If there are little snakes inside, then a 14-year-old kid was probably a little dick. Little bastard. This kid we've made up in our heads and don't even really know this kid. He is a bastard. We hate him. Somebody does point out, yeah, Chris says, don't discount the seagulls. I mean, there are, birds do look for snake eggs and some of them enjoy them tremendously. And that's nature.

Yeah, that's circle of life stuff right there. Yeah, exactly. I can't stop that. That has to continue. Get Elton John on the phone because he's got to sing about it. But for now, this fictitious 14-year-old kid will remain the end. enemy. All right? That's what's going to happen. I like that we've already turned it to public enemy

number one, persona basically, this fictional 14-year-old kid. Yeah, he's going to the joint after this. They're going to come get him. Hey, Brian, I found something for you. I found you a Doc Ock rig sort of basically kind of... Really? Okay.

I needed one of these, so I'm glad. Yeah, let me click that link. Click this link. The headline says this AI-powered robotic arm system is kind of like a real-life dock tech. And I agree it straps onto your back like a backpack and then you got these four big tentacle arms the command of it look at that that's cool right and that's like uh way better looking than those stupid uh you know telescoping metal silver stainless steel arms that uh doc act had these look like these look like the arms that your dentist uses to hold up lights and and things like that

above your face it does it's like you're laying in a dental chair 100% of the time or something there's video of her messing with it it's all a little too I don't know if there's kind of a sultry nature how she's working with these things well she's doing a dance yeah she's like basically right just doing a dance with these arms and I don't I haven't read enough to know how the AI kicks in but I assume it's like following her movements and then learning as she goes and then could probably duplicate it

but it looks like it's uh kind of useful if you were like someone with I guess I don't know if you're paraplegic or something? Yeah. Because what is it using? Is it looking at her arms and using those to figure out?

Because it looks like the one, right now I'm at the part of the video where she only has one of these robotic arms attached. And it looks like it's following the movements of her arm, meaning that it's watching what she does with that arm, which again is...

I don't know how it's watching. Right. You know, like... But what's the use? If it's just going to mimic what you're doing with your existing arm. Giggs, a good point. You can pick up two cans of coke that happened to be 14 inches apart.

Now, later, she's hugging another lady who's wearing one of these. Oh, is she hugging, is she general grievous hugging this other woman? Kind of? Oh, this is very general grievous. That's a good comparison. I like it. Can you put light savers on all of these arms? Suddenly come popping out.

Yeah, I don't know what to make. it. I mean, obviously, it's an experiment to show what's possible, I suppose, but I don't know what the use case is. But I thought of you, because I'm like, well, Brian loves Doc Ock and, you know, a big Spider-Man fan. I'm a big Spider-Man fan. I'm a fan of, like,

give me some extra arms if they, if I can use them for something useful, and these are both functional and creepy. So I'm doubly excited about them. Can you imagine? I don't know if I do use them while dancing in what looks to be a very expensive museum space. Yeah. But, yeah, no kidding.

with your, finally, you've met the love of your life and that other lady who walks in who's also wearing one of these. What time does that, oh, here she is at two minutes, 56 seconds. Yep, she just enters the scene. And it's like, oh. She just takes one of the arms. Oh, did she just plop it?

She just plugs it right on her own backpack. Yep, just bam, you're in. God, the expressions on these ladies, this whole thing is, it's killing me. It's just so, so freaking mom and shams, man. I think that's why, like, Boston Dynamics Robots videos

because they just get right into like all right he's going to jump over some barrels and do some pull-ups and you know it's like

practical stuff and this one's like no no loo lily check out my robot back arms yeah I don't know could you imagine

the if the robot dynamics you know the dog they put that to this music and it just kind of slowly danced around the lab yeah it'd be way

less impressive I mean, they sometimes make the bipedal ones dance, but still, I'd like to see what they can lift and move for me. That'd be cool. Also, you know, show a guy walking into a Denny's and sitting down to his grand slam. Yeah, give me some real case, real case use. I'd love to see it. I'd love to see like, all right, what happens?

You know, how does this work? Can she pick up something? Can she operate five, six keyboards at once? Right. Can she be reading a book while these arms are grabbing new books at the Barnes and Noble for her to now check out next? Exactly. You know? Or, you know, better yet, can this work as an automated checkout person at the store? Yeah. Just going paper or plastic. Hurry, because I'm doing both right now. Yep. And it'd be really fast. And the girl wearing it could just read her little, she could read her stories, you know, with her real hands.

And they have to be bothered. We got this figured out. Reading my stories. Speaking of technology and big, giant things that happen in history, Brian, what did you do this weekend? I saw Oppenheimer. What? Oppenheimer. Oh my gosh. It's the bomb and the whatnot.

Tell us more. Exactly. Pretty much the bomb and the whatnot. It was great. You know, the big thing everybody's like, oh, my God, it's three hours long. It did not feel like it was three hours long. That thing felt, it felt like a two-hour movie because it is so. so interesting and fascinating i won't say it's it's action-packed because it's not there's a lot of

talking and there's a lot of there's a lot of actors you see in this thing and you go oh he's in this too oh my god she's in here too oh my god wow yeah um yeah it's it's um yeah tvs travis is right it's paste really really well it's um uh it's every scene has a key element to uh to kind of uncover. There's no throwaway like, here's Oppenheimer just kind of going about his regular day. It's like, no, here he is with Einstein, and here he is with Florence Pugh, and oh my gosh, okay, well, that's that. All right, let's get on to the next scene. Yeah, they had a sexy scene, I heard, little Florence Pue. I have a couple of sexy scenes, yes.

Really? Okay. Hubba, hubba, hubba. Did you, did you, was I going to ask, I was going to ask if, oh, I know it's a known quantity that he's in it. Everybody knows Robert Downey Jr. is in this, but he looks unrecognizable to me. He looks unrecognizable. And we were talking about it with Barry last night, and he says, I didn't recognize him at first, that Barry said that, that he didn't. It wasn't obvious that it was Robert Downey Jr. first. I agree.

It wasn't until he started talking. And you see, it's those lines, the wrinkles that he has coming down from his, nose down around his mouth that for me kind of like oh that's robert downy junior because otherwise it's you know it's a different dude it's a different dude he he's he uh he also i think they you know the 15 years of playing iron man i think around the end of that they they uh kept making him look like he was the same age iron man as he was in 2008 yeah and uh um maybe maybe he maybe he aged a little bit during that time period with Marvel. I think the last Robert Downey Jr.

movie I saw, I think was Endgame. I don't think I've seen anything else with him at it since then. What is he what did he do between Endgame and this? Gotta be some other stuff, right? I'm sure, yeah. Like, if he

stopped there, that would be crazy. Maybe he took a big Tony Stark break. I mean, he certainly could have because it was so you know he had done that for such a long time that uh oh do little that's the only one was do little it's the only one was do little yeah forgot about do little and um okay yeah because nobody liked to do little do little was bad yeah oh the judge that was so great forgot about the judge i never saw

the judge that's him and uh robert duval was it yes and billy bob thornton and um i need a Watch that. Vera Farmiga, Vincent Donofrio, Jeremy Strong, Dax Shepard. 2014. It was a while ago now. Yes, it was a while ago. It was between Iron Man 3 and whatever was after Iron Man 3. Captain America, Civil War?

Avengers Age of Ultron, looks like. Ultron, that's right. Yeah, that's a poopy one. We don't like that one. Anyway, well, there you go. Big thumbs up then, you'd say. Big thumbs up for Oppenheimer. And, yeah, okay.

Okay, we didn't see it on IMAX, and there's a couple scenes like, oh, that would have been really cool to see in IMAX, but only about 15 minutes, 10 minutes of the movie would be like, let's watch that. That would be look great in IMAX, so I'd say you're fine seeing this on a regular screen theater. And if it makes it too streaming soon, you're probably fine with that too. It's just, it's really, really good. And it's one that you watch with no distractions because a lot of information comes at you and a lot of great, God, a lot of great silent acting, especially Killian Murphy, man. Dude can just pierce you with those blue eyes of his. He's great. I heard somebody say, it made me laugh because I just was like, okay, but they said, I can't believe it took this long for this director and Killian Murphy to work together.

and I went He's in like He's in like four or five of his movies He's not the main star of him But he's in him He was in all kinds Not see Inception They were in his head

Yeah Did you not see the Batman movies He was freaking scarecrow For even a little bit In the second movie You see him like You know Tied up against the car

It was a weird thing to say I'm still not sure they were serious It was a Facebook friend of mine He's like Oh yeah All these two are finally working together I'm like Dude I can't

Now, if only he could work with Tom Hardy, that would be, or Michael Cain. Maybe the two of them could get together, him and Michael Cain. Yeah, finally get those two together. Why not finally make that happen? Right. There was really cool. So, again, Alamo Draft House comes through, again, just making the whole experience better. The 30 minutes before the movie, it's always relevant, but quirky stuff.

Yeah. One of the things they showed was a Christopher Nolan, not really a primer, but like it was a, the, um, the hallmark marks of Christopher Nolan or something like that. Like it was basically a here are the elements that make up a Christopher Nolan film and they talk about you know the broken

anti-hero they talk about the quick jumps from different timelines the going back and forth between black and white and color sometimes the really long establishing shots and like all the actors who've worked with them multiple times

I don't know if Alamo Draft House ever puts these on YouTube, but they are fascinating. The ones before Guardians of the Galaxy, they had one for each of the main five members of the team, and it was the story so far, as seen by Gomorrah. And so they go through like, you know, Gamora meets up with the Nebula, and then they, or well, her sister Nebula, and then they join with the Guardians, and then she wakes up, And it's five years earlier. I think I found them. They are all on YouTube.

I'm going to go watch these. Yeah, they got like a complete Kubrick thing. They got a... Oh, nice. They have a whole channel full of these. Let's see. Alamo Draft House on YouTube. I think it's, yeah, it's the whole at thing.

So YouTube.com slash at Alamo Draft House. Fantastic. See, that is... That's good because those things are so well produced. Oh, yeah, previously on Indiana Jones. that was the one so good they showed that one before uh obviously before dial a destiny and it's a great little you know taking you through chronologically the history of Indiana Jones oh yeah these are great there's a whole how Jack Kirby created Marvel uh the history of the Joker 12 minute

documentary this all looks awesome oh and they even do their their Q&As like Nick Kay showed up to you know do Q&A so they filmed that well I'm going to subscribe this sounds great yeah what a great uh if you can't get an elmo draft house in your state in your city then this is the next best thing i mean i like me some movies yeah i wish they were here yeah all right uh done away time we're going to play a game this morning we're trying to award people prizes our goal today is to give away some shite and uh i don't see any reason why a listener can't win some stuff so let's let's do this in fact we've kind of make it so Everybody wins on this day.

Yeah, we do. It still feels competitive, but nobody really loses, except Donaway. He loses a lot. He's kind of terrible at this. Oh, he's right there. I shouldn't say these things while he's right there. Join us now for a little half-asses in the morning, and let's have our pal Brian Dunaway chime in. Hi, Brian.

Oh, hi, loser in, Brian. Oh, oh, wow. Wow, right off the bat, the smack talk. It hurts. Oh, you don't think I don't. don't listen. You don't think I don't listen to Scott? Yeah, I think you listen. I think you listen real good. You're one of my favorite people to talk smack with because you coined the phrase smack talk all those years ago. Oh, it's fun. It's so much fun. That's what we do. It's our favorite thing to do. That's right.

As a matter of fact, I may have went too far in our film sack, a little chat with our day when we were talking about our pizza in his toppings. I felt the room get quiet. Oh, really? in our little four-person group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to remember the context. What was the context? What was your take? I had gotten Waterworld and VHS, and I invited you over,

and you said you'd be bringing the pizza, and I said no mushrooms or, what was it, mushrooms and onions on my half? Oh, yeah, yeah. And then you started mentioning toppings, and then we went all full on, baby. Yes. Yeah, the two things you mentioned,

I quite like, especially the mushrooms. so more for me, I guess. You can have your cheese. I actually like the mushrooms. Oh, you do? Well, then all right, then. I was playing a role, Scott. It was role playing.

Well, you did a great job. Yeah, you did a great job. Yeah, you did a great job. Well, it's good to have you here. We're going to play this game. Brian Ibbott here will explain the rules and who could win what. Brian? Okay.

Welcome to the morning half-asses, a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you to the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brian in category and six possible answers. Three of those answers are correct, and three of them are, are like those last three minutes of Oppenheimer. Total bullshit. I'm just kidding. Depending on how confident you feel with the category, they can provide

one, two or three guesses. But if you guess any wrong, you get zero points for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, get two right, gets you three points, and get all three correct. You get five points. The player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant and contestants have

been pulled from members of the TED pool that aren't able to be here to listen live. Scott, you're going to be playing for Nicole in Vancouver, Washington. Nice. Brian, you're going to be playing for Tina in Moody, Alabama. Moody. Oh, Tina in Moody, Alabama.

Moody Alabama. I don't know if that's the name of the city or if that's just a description. Their state of beating. That area of Alabama is very moody. Yeah. That's how they sign their dear, their dear whoever letters, you know. Like, oh, help me. I'm trying to find love here in Alabama.

I just can't do it. Signed Moody in Alabama. Moody in Alabama. Yes, I love it. All right, let's get to this, and let's get, you know, I feel like your confidence needs a little bit of a boost. So let's start off. Oh, please God.

Nice and easy that you guys will have no problems with whatsoever. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I'm really not. Question number one, movies based on Stephen Kingworks. So which of these are movies based on Stephen Kingworks? The Fog, the Shawshank Redemption, Dead Poet Society. Misery, Jacob's Ladder, and the Green Mile. Yeah, you're right. This is easy.

Yeah, it's a false, it's lulling you into the false stuff. Now it makes me, now I feel nervous about it. Right, don't you? I know. It's like, wait a minute. Did Brian pull a fast one? No, it's just an easy five points, and I needed, I needed to get this card out of the way because it's just been sitting there. Yeah, all those are right.

Shawshank, Misery and the Green Mile, d'ur. Yeah. You know what if you didn't know, though? And you were, and you, let's see you've seen Shawshank and you didn't know that, like, The Dead Poet Society wasn't one. You might think it was because it's kind of a similar tone. Yeah. And the ones they did, you know, the other, the, the fakers in here, the fog, Jacob's Ladder, feel like Stephen King.

The Fog definitely feels like a Stephen King. Yeah, he's like the mist. Similar to it. Yeah, it's like the mist. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah. And Jacob's Ladder is just like Jacob's Stool written by Stephen King. Just kidding. I made that up.

All right. Jacob Stood. You just sat on that or was it a sample. Anyway, let's get to question number two. This one, again, no problem for you guys. Wars named after troublesome animals. So six wars. Which of these three are real wars named for troublesome animals?

Your choices are the reindeer war, the war of the stray dog, the war of the locus, the pig war, the emu war, and the alpaca war. There's three of these are right, eh? Three of these are actual real wars based on troublesome animals. Wow. These all feel like They're wrong and right Right

I feel like bait I'm doing too Also his use of the word Troublesome is important here I think Troublesome Troublesome animals Those albums are troublesome Yeah because I don't feel like pigs

Are that troublesome Maybe they are I don't know You did two I did two Yeah Very interesting strategy Okay all right Well

The War of the Stray dog Indeed that is a war is between Greece and Bulgaria in 1925. The War of the Locusts, no, not real. And the Emo War was Australia in 1932. Brian Dunnelly getting two of them, right. That was the only one I actually knew. You bastard eight points.

The war was a total guess. Wow. And the pig war, I thought that was the war. I thought you're trying to get me a war pig. Oh, yeah. Jane Rose gather. No, that's between U.S. and Canada and 1859 was the pig war. Wow. I didn't know what had a name.

I knew about that conflict, but I didn't know how the name. What was all the kerfuffle about the pigs? Why did they call it that? I didn't Google that one. I googled a couple of these, because I want to know about the war of the stray dog. And indeed, it was a dog that crossed the border, got shot, and then started a war between Bulgaria and Greece. I'm just going across it.

Oh, oh, oh, no. That seems like that not that long ago for Greece to be in a war with somebody. Yeah. You know? Like, if you just said that was like, well, that was 800 BC, I'd go, of course. They were always warring back then. Exactly. No, but 1800s?

Yeah, I'm sorry, 19-1925, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. All right. Yeah. All right, let's get to the last one here. Scott, you are behind a little bit, five to eight. Screwed. With Brian with the lead.

Let's go to our last question. Your last question is, nights of the round table. See, I've got a son named after a knight of the round table. I don't know these at all. Sir Tristan. but which of these six are other knights of the roundtable. You have Lamerac, Percival, Gallivant, Christoph, Gaharis, and Naveen. I always learned, I should have learned this.

I've never read much about the Knights of the Roundtable, but I've always felt like that's something that I want to learn. Let's see. Well, go read the Excellence series, Camelot 3,000 from DC. I actually have read some of the Camelot 3,000. I've actually read that, but that's been like since the 90s, I guess, probably. It's been a bit. Gebus.

Yeah. Jebus is right. I'm going to go with, now, how many of Scott need to beat me? I'm doing three. He needs to be three points behind. So he needs to get two correct to tie, three to win, yes. Yeah, I don't want a tie. Okay.

Or maybe I do. Maybe I'd have a better chance if I tied, but I don't know. All right. Okay, you're both locked in. Look at you guys. You both honed in on Sir Percival. Absolutely, Sir Percival. Definitely a member.

of the roundtable. You also both fell for the Gallivant trap. Oh, that just felt so right. Gallaghan around. You're probably thinking of Galahad, who was the actual night, was Sir Galahad. Who bravely ran away? None of these, none of these, right? That was a fake thing.

Galvan was a 2015 musical TV series on ABC, by the way. I was just hoping that was like the reason why we had that gallivant around or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, it just, yeah, I don't know. But Christoph and Naveen, both Disney princes. Oh, shit. And Lomorak, actual knights of the roundtable. Damn it. Well, you retained your lead then, and that's good, right?

Yep, a winner is Brian Dunaways, which means that Tina in Moody, Alabama is going to be getting the prizes. Her prizes are Alchemist's Castle, seems appropriate, and Guilty Gear X2, hashtag reload. both of those coming to Tina and Moody Alabama. Don't worry Nicole in Vancouver. You're getting a copy of symmetry. Ooh, also very good. Games for everyone. That's right.

Well, here's my sound. And here's Dunaway Sound. Congratulations. You're a winner. Nicely done, dude. I think you turn the tables. We're like tied up again or something. It feels that way.

I don't know if it's true, but I think it does. I've had a little bit of a streak lately. But of course, before that, I had also a big. bad streak so yeah yeah it's working yeah it's working slowly working as you're twerking and look at this uh wednesday you're not going to be here because no you will be here wednesday wait i'm gonna be here why am i we just you know what i'll do i'll probably i'll probably saddle bobby with some science trivia or something yeah make him come up with some science trivia because i'm not gonna be be able to come up yeah you don't need to do any of that um doing a feud game i think i miss should come

up with science trivia we'll do another you know what we'll do we can't we can't even use this thing while we do it. So we'll end up just doing kind of a thing. But we'll do it because you're coming that day and I look forward to it because then that's a day I can beat you, you sad sack of garbage. I think I get three Wi-Fi on the plane so I can listen live. Yeah, you'll be able to hear it. Done away, kiss our butts, all right?

Oh, he had no response. He had nothing to say. Wow, he just stormed off like a petulant child. Just embarrassing, really. All right. How about some of this business? It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. A Whopper Jr. at the exact right time. This medication I'm on has a tendency to make you a little hypoglycemic. It means you're like feeling like you've got to eat or you're going to faint.

Yeah. So yesterday, as it was kicking in, I was like, oh, I'm going to die. And Kim's like, what do you want? I'm like, there's a bird king, just go in there. So we go in there and they have two, two for two 50. or no, I'm sorry, two for five bucks you get the Wopper Juniors. So we get the Wopper Juniors.

And man, did that thing hit the spot like nothing else? It was great. I like the good Wopper Jr. those... I do too. They put shit on them. They're like the same price as a McDonald's crap cheeseburger

that has like a pickle, a little bit of ketchup and meat on it. This thing has like lettuce and tomato and the whole smear. Right. And I'll be honest. You know, a Wopper Jr. I don't need a full-ass Wopper. Just a regular Wopper Jr.,

All I need. That's enough to satiate me. Yeah. A big Whopper. I mean, not that I couldn't put one away. But you're right. It's too much. It's a big burger.

It's too big. Yeah. And they have one bigger than that. You know, don't, you know, don't, don't be cheap on the cheese. I do want a Wopper Jr. With cheese. But that, yeah. But make that cheese as if you can melt that cheese, that'd be great.

Because sometimes it's just a piece of cheese. It's a cold piece of cheese on a hot burger. It's slowly cooling the burger. Yeah. I don't like that. It's like a little. refrigeration slab and on top of your meat. Yes.

Anyway, let's move on to this story here. Somebody posted a lingo guide. It's on Axios.com. A lingo guide for Utah stuff. And a bunch of people said, Scott, you should do this on the show. Scott, you should do this on the show. I finally relented. I'm going to tell you right now which of these are accurate and which of these are not.

All right. And why? Brian, if you have any questions about these, please say so. I'm sure I will. I'm sure I will. So yes. Um, so they, this is what they said on Axios as a release recently asked subscribers on social media users to send us words and phrases that are unique to Utahans and Salt Lakers and you delivered, says the article. Uh, let's see. Uh, for instance, the industry in Los Angeles from us to a movie film entertainment sectors. Okay. So when people say the industry over there, you know what they mean. Sure. That's what it means. Okay. Seattleites, people in Seattle call their perceived child or cold shoulder towards transplants, the Seattle freeze. I didn't even know that was...

I didn't know that one. Never even heard of that. That sounds more like a hockey expansion team, but whatever. Right, right. Did you give them the freeze? Yeah, I gave him the freeze. So here are the terms. And I have to admit, most of these are pretty dead on.

Yeah. If you say the church while you're here, you're referring to Mormons or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you're not talking about anybody else. That's who you mean. Right. That's 100% true. The church. It is just the church there.

Yes. And if Brian walked into town and I said, Hey, Brian, are you a member out of context? Just, hey, forget about the word church. Just if I said, hey, is he a member? It is an acknowledgement. Everyone knows you mean a member of said church. That's what you mean.

Gotcha. It's not like an Elks member or a member of the Jersey Mikes Shore Club. Right. I mean, you might. Five sandwiches, get one free. You might if you're at Jersey Mikes and they say to you, are you a member? You will in context know, right? I wouldn't say, no, sir.

I'm not religious. Yeah. I would prefer not to have missionaries come to the house. Thank you so much. Point of the mountain. This is 100% correct. This is the mountainous area that infamously separates Salt Lake and Utah counties. Whenever you talk at all about traveling on I-15 going either direction, you say things like, how was traffic?

It's pretty good up to point of the mountain and then not bad after that. Really? Okay. It's always a demarcation. It's the weirdest thing. And that's doing east. Like if you're coming from Colorado, you're on I-15, heading, you know, driving past Little America on your way into Utah. So you'll cross that before you get into the valley.

Yeah. So when you get to right before Draper and right after you've left Lehigh, there's this just little set. It's not even a big expanse. And point of the mountain, it's funny. It's not like a high mountain. It's like, in fact, most of it's been dug into because they use it for like construction material. cement and everything.

And so for whatever reason, it's just stuck. My entire life, that has been the point of the mountain, and that was a demarcation that everybody understood what you were saying. This is the weirdest thing. Here's one I don't know. The Red Snake. This is the trail of taillights ascending up big or Little Cottonwood Canyons on heavy snow days.

Now, I know what those are, and I know what those canyons are, but I've never heard the term Red Snake ever. No, but that's great. That seems like it could be used. anywhere for some place that always seems to get busy. Like you could say, oh, man, you know, we were going to go skiing this weekend, but we got caught in the Red Snake up in Vail or up to Vail. Totally makes sense.

Yep. Now here's one, scones, not the triangular kind. This is a bread, is a cross between bignets and fry bread, and is usually served with powdered sugar and honey. Absolutely, we have these and we call them scones. And if they're not scones, I don't know what scones are. Dude, this is great, because when I was a kid, there was across from the Oriental Theater in the Highlands area of Denver,

there was a shop that sold scones. And it was this. It was really, really, like a much softer bread that was dusted with powdered sugar, and you got a little thing of honey to dip it in. And these were fantastic. And then, you know, he got older, and you go to a bakery and like, oh, they have scones here? Great.

What's this dry, crusty triangle that should be, it's like a popover that somebody, didn't fill with something. Yeah, it does seem like it should be filled with something, right? It totally does, yeah. But those old scones, man, I need to find I need to find a local place that does your kind of scones rather than the triangular dry, crusty bread kind.

Yeah, because I will say, even though I think they're not technically scones from other definitions, they are really, really good. So there's that. Here's one that I absolutely know, sluffing. This means skipping school. I don't know if this was true of other states surrounding us or not, but Sloughing. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. It's like, dude, where'd you go?

Sloughing off some, yeah, sloughing off school basically is what it came. Yeah, I think it was where it came from, but you'd say things like, where'd you go? Oh, I slough fifth period. That's how you'd say it. Okay. All right. I don't know what everywhere else was.

Is it skipping or I don't know what else you'd say. Sloughing just sounds right to me. So I don't know what other word works, but I'm sure there's others. So here's a use case for it. Kim's sloughing in middle school forced her to enter a truancy intervention court program. And then it says after that, you'll, you ditch school too if you attended Payson Jr. High. This is true. Everyone hated. Payson was the, no one wanted to go there.

And you know what? Until all these years later, I don't know why. Nothing about Payson. They're fine. They're fine. This is funny. Okay. It just got a bad rap. And, uh, but people just said, nope, nope, don't need it. Uh, this next one's wrong says the west side. Maybe this has changed, but, uh, the Salt Lake City neighborhoods, Fair Park, Glendale, Jordan Meadows, popular grove, Rose Park and West Point, West of I 15.

I mean, maybe in the 50s and 60s that was called the west side, but that's before the whole actual west side was developed. I live on the west, technically far west side, like the toward the other mountains on the whole other side of the valley. Yeah. So when I was growing up, that was the West Side. So I don't know why they do that. That's this weird.

And then this one, the Zion Curtin, the partitions formerly required in Utah restaurants aimed to hide the creation of alcoholic beverages from children. I don't know what that is. I don't know what this is. I don't think so. Because when I go to like a pub brewery, you see the stuff, the big old tanks and the guys in there working on it? Where did we, where was I talking about this?

This was somebody about how. They can't show you them making drinks. So they have basically a wall where the bar, like blocking you from seeing the bar. Who did we? Oh, man. If I would have thought it was you in something like an old Utah thing, like, uh, it might be older. Because when I, maybe it happened before I was old enough to even go to a place like this. But if I go to a bar now, they're just out there making drinks.

It's like, interesting. And like if it's like a bartender situation, it's, uh, like we just went to one. Oh, the whiskey burger place I like, the 571, whatever it is, forget the name of it. But anyway, they have a huge bar, and they're back there doing their thing. You stay and making the drinks and stuff, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it says formally required, so, you know. I bet they meant formerly required. Yeah, I bet it's formerly, because formally, I don't think is right.

Maybe this law recently changed, and I don't know because I don't drink, I don't know. But, yeah, most of these are right. I'm surprised they didn't put things in here like fetching, which is, replacement for the F word, you hear a lot. Really? Oh, yeah. That whole bacon fetching happened. Oh, I'm not going to trick the fetching below.

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. You know, that whole thing across the country, people say, stop trying to make fetch happen. It kind of happened here. It actually happened. Yeah, and there's others, but this is great. That's a really funny one, though.

It feels like such the rung. Oh, it's stupid. It's like, oh, that woman is so fetching. You're like, fetching what? What is she? Your mom's fetching right now, isn't she? If anyone else out there has one that's like Colorado stuff, send it in. I'd love to contrast.

Yeah, I'd love to see some Colorado ones. Because I bet there'd be like, oh, I never even thought about that being a local thing until you see a list like this. Right. And of course, this isn't included. There's all kinds of different crazy foods besides scones. Like, you know, the shredded carrots and jello is absolutely a thing here. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Something salad. What's it? Just jello salad. I do have you ready I think I found a list oh do it let's hear him what do you got see I have not look I have not vetted this list I'm just going to give

it to you un unscanned but this is the uncover Colorado I'm ready and understanding local Colorado slang so you've got food lingo Colorado Bulldog

it's not really a Colorado Bulldog yeah it's a it's a really good drink it's sweet though It's like basically it's a white Russian with cola. Okay. Vodka, milk, and cola. But unique, unique to your area, I guess?

I never thought about being that. I just thought they called it that because it's, it's a white Russian, but it has coke in it. It's a white Russian with Coke, basically. Colorado Kool-Aid, I would agree. Slang term for Coors beer, yes. Colorado, that's great. Bring me a bottle of Colorado, Kool-Lade. Wow.

Denver Alet, again, not local. vernacular it's no we eat those here all the time they're fantastic yeah they get a big mouth full of Denver um Denver steak this is really this is a bad list green chili rocky mountain oysters let's see if we've got some better we have those anywhere with rocky mountains has the oysters we get we know what those are this is a little bit better a town is the nickname for aurora also affectionately called saudi aurora for its desert like landscape oh wow yeah I hope that's the reason it's called Saudi Roe. I've never heard it called that, but I've heard A-Town.

Basin, yeah, Breck, short for Breckenridge. BV for Buena Vista, or Buena Vista, it's pronounced. Cap Hill for the Capitol Hill neighborhood. Cap Hill, I like that. Cap Hill. CBD, which is also the Central Business District of downtown Denver, where you can buy, CBD, oddly enough. Yeah, funny enough. Foco, was just up in Foco yesterday, as we made.

mentioned with the uh the folks yeah um yeah i'd say some of these are really just abbreviations for uh towns and areas lung tuckie for lung mont long tuckie i kind of like that lung tuckie why though why uh because of uh because of the the the trend of the people who lived up there for a while in the 80s i think was yeah kind of got a yehaw going out there i see a little bit of yaha Switzerland of America, which is the nickname for Urey, I had no idea. Is that a, like a... It's a town out southwest of the southwest corner, Urey.

Never been there, I don't think. But I guess it's the Switzerland of America. Probably a lot of Swiss immigrants there or something. Probably, some heavy, some high mountains and some Swiss people. We have that with this place here called Midway. It was founded by almost entirely Swiss pioneer. who came from Switzerland and then pioneered out here and then set up shop

and now when you go out there every other building looks like some kind of Swiss Alps looking construction. It's all very Swiss out there and they have Swiss days where you go get cheese and weird chocolate and stuff. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, there's a place in California just north of Los Angeles called Solvang. Speaking, I mean, I did the Fetching Merlot joke that was sideways where they go to Solvang, and that's where they head out for all of their winery tour stuff in that film. Was that before or after the unfortunate incident with the window on the car? I think that that's before.

They end up in Solvang at the very beginning of the movie, yes. Okay, good. Gaper is a clueless person on the slope standing around, getting in the way, gaping. What? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. or it's also more accurately used to describe the gape between a person's goggles and helmet,

which I think is a gap, not a gape, but they spell it gape. Yeah, because that'd be gapper, not gaper. Yeah, it'd be a gapper. Granola, an outdoorsy, nature-loving, organic, fed, hippie-dippy, left-leaning person quite common in Colorado. You can find them in Boulder by the Subaru load. It's so true. That one's dead on, right? We have those same people, but they're all in Park City is where they are here.

Yeah, peak bagger, someone who climbs a lot of mountains, usually focusing on 14ers. 14thiarian, yep, a trust fund kid that's a Rastafari. What's a 14-er? 14,000 foot peak, mountain peak. Okay, so it's like a class of climbing. I'm like focusing on 14ers. Never heard of that. Yeah, Tina climbed a 14er this weekend, but she didn't start from the bottom.

But whatever, she got to the top, and I'm. I'm super proud of her. Yeah, that's awesome. 14ers aren't easy. That's what she was doing while we were talking about Edge of Tomorrow, by the way. Oh, got it. Yeah. Nice.

Colorado Cologne is the smell of marijuana on somebody's clothes. That's good. Colorado Cologne. Colorado Cologne. Looks like you're wearing some Colorado Cologne there. Oh, that's great. They call Utahans mules for going to Vegas and bringing weed home with them. Really?

Yeah. They're only mulling for themselves. You know, they're not like hired by some. Some cartel, they just go there. That's it. Those are all the good ones from the Colorado list. Well, there you go. What weird ones do you guys have in your hometown?

Send us email or a text and tell us. We'd love to hear about it. But for now, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, Bobby Frankenberger will be here. We're going to have a little science today. All right. So sit back and enjoy some Monday science after this song break that Brian will now explain. Yeah, let's go to Portland for this one.

And I haven't seen yet if it's the Portland and the Maine. or the Portland and the Oregon. Judging by the band, I'm going to guess that they're the Portland and the organ because they're a little quirky. It's a band called Rosalit Bone

and they have a brand new single. This is Crying in the USA from their new album, O Frienda, which comes out August 25th via Get Loud Recordings. They are touring, and if you like Orville Peck, Nick Cave in the Bad Seeds,

Timber, Timber, and the Gun Club, you'll probably like this. Here is the song, Crying in the USA, by Rose Lipbone. face, swimming through trashed on carpet stained with eggs, we're all crying in the USA. Crying the USA, love crying in the USA. I'm running too deep, but I want to go to sleep, but I'm crying in the USA.

Feed me apples and carrots and corn, and treat me and eggs, and carrots and corn, and treat me and like the little baby My eyes milking father's storm They're going to teach me how to not be lazy Crying the USA Love crying in the USA I'm running too deep

And I want to go to sleep I'm going to go to sleep I'm going to cry in the USA Yeah, man, soft in line, swing the stickloads to grand while others only live to watch the pilots in an stickloat in grand while others only live to watch pilots in an aqua room but for a TV in a cup. Bring the balls swinging out of their box at the shore I'm crying in the USA Love crying in the USA I went too deep and I want to go to sleep

But I'm crying in the USA Where are the flames and crept to press the best From the mighty chatter to reach it to Seattle Desert, sage and sulfur smells guns with a knife for a handle Crying in the USA, love, crying in the USA I'm running too deep and I want to go to sleep But I'm crying in the USA

Crying in the USA Love, crying in the USA I'm running too deep and I want to go to sleep for the grand USA USA Wait, are you gaming on a Chromebook? Yeah, it's got a high-res 120-hertz display, plus this killer RGB keyboard, and I can access thousands of games anytime, anywhere.

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I'd like me a splash of whiskey to worse the trail dust off in my gullet and keep my singing voice in fettle. I'm going to go testicle. And we've returned. Tell me who that was again, please. Sure, that's the band Roselit Bone from their brand new album,

O'Frenda, coming out for this Friday. coming Friday. That's the song crying in the USA. Nice. Where else are you going to cry? Do it here. It's fine. We don't care. We don't care. You know how you were looking forward a little bit to the shit show that was going to be the

Republican debates? Yes. And now we're not going to get the big piece of shit to make it a shit show is not even going to be there for it. Yeah. He's skipping out on all the debates. Yeah. He's not going to do it. I'm curious. That's going to what that's going to do.

I guess Wednesday is the first one, I think. Yeah. That's crazy. We're this close to all that crap. I know. I'm not looking forward to it. I will be avoiding it all, to be honest. Yeah.

All right. What are we doing here? We're adding someone. Oh, Bobby, duh. Like, my Monday figured out. All right, here we go. Let's get Bobby in here. Let's get some stuff going.

I feel like we've been deprived of scientific knowledge for long enough. So now's our chance. Science. Science. Bob is hungry and the soup looks good. Well, well, well, what do we have here? It's Bobby Frankenberger, joining us from South Carolina. Are you going to the meetup or no?

I don't remember if you were going. He is not from a night here. Well, I heard that Brian Ibit is going to be there, so I didn't want to. You don't want to, you don't want to. Finish that sense. How do you want me to finish that, Brian? I didn't want there to be so much excitement that people lose their minds. Yeah, let's go with that. Let's go with that one, Bobby.

Yeah, that's a fine explanation. I like where you went with that. Well, it's good to have you here, though, and you'll be here again Wednesday with the co-host, Seton. So thanks for doing that ahead of time. Appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. I canceled all my doctor's appointments just so I could be here. Yeah, all three or four. Just pushing the Thursday, like, yeah, I mean, that works. I mean, I can wait to do that chemo thing.

Oh, sure, no problem. Look, you're getting, what are you doing, like, old school leeches and bloodletting or something? because you're a scientist, so you believe in those things. That's what my old-timey doctor told me we should do. That's right. Get in there. Get it done. Although my mom is prescribed cigarettes.

My mom is going to a guy right now who is having her do some form of this bloodletting thing. And I said, mom, is it a doctor? And she goes, she very quickly said, oh, yes. And I said, are you? And before I could even say, are you sure? She says, well, I think he is. I think it's a doctor. And she's talking like this.

like, mom, who are you talking to and who is taking blood out of an 85 year old? Anyway, I got to deal with this now. Well, anyway, you're here. It's science time. Let's talk about what's been brewing on your little science, your little petri dish that you've been holding on to since we talked last. A little petri dish. Yeah. Yeah.

I've got two things. I got a quick update from, I looked into, you remember we mentioned, you mentioned water allergies, and I said that sounds like a bunch of hoaxies. to me. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. And then you gave me a link to what you were talking about. And so I looked into it more. And I thought I would share what I found with everybody. Please do. Yeah. Because it is a thing. It's actually incredibly rare. First of all, that's why I'd never heard of it. It said, what I read said there's only like between 30 and 40 cases that have been reported since the 60s. Yeah. Oh, wow. Like it's very, very, very small percentage. So it's like less than one a year. Um, and, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's just really, really weird. And, and it's not, it's, it's, it's what I, what I suspected, I guess was right, that it's not a problem with the water. They're not actually sure why it happens, but what does, so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, hives that are caused by exposure to water. Um, and, uh, apparently,

the whole the features of it the water can be any temperature they're usually really small hives the temperature thing is important

because that's how they test for it and is that it has to be room temperature to test for it because if it's cold or hot water it could be

a different hives reaction like like some kind of reaction to cold or you can also have like I forgot what it's called

cholerine colonergic Erdicaria, I think, that can be a reaction to heat or warmth. But anyway, like I said, they don't know what causes it, which is weird. I mean, how would you figure that out, right? There's so few people. And it doesn't seem to affect the, you know, the 90% water that your body is made up of. Right, right.

So it's, it's, and there's some conflicting reports. So, like, so there's a couple of guesses as to what it could be. oh and apparently at least one of the people it would be so severe that that when they drank water they would get their throat would close up and everything so i don't know how you deal with that wow um or at least it would swell up i don't know if it completely closed or what well they do like intravenous for those people right they just have to i guess they would have to have to be on drip all the time and then you have to hope whatever you're dripping is the right saline mix of whatever so it doesn't have the same reaction or the same rejection it's yeah i was reading a whole thing on this and watched a video of a girl who dealt with it, and that's how she was getting her hydration. She was plugged in all the time to a thing. What do you call it? Ivy. Wow. Yeah. Anyway. So the couple of reasons they theorize or hypothesize that it might be happening is they think it's possible that it's a reaction, a water reaction with the the sebum on your skin.

Seabum is like the technical medical name for the oil gunk on your skin. It's not just the oil. Keep cleaning off your phone. You have the fingerprints off of that. That's actually right. When ever you need fingerprints all over your phone

and everything, it's all sebum. It's not called just oil because it's got a bunch of other gross stuff in it too. Why does it have to have such a horrible freaking name? I know that is a very horrible name. Ugh. Sebum?

What's wrong with my phone? Oh, it's covered in sebum. I don't want anything to do with your sebum pronounce it carefully. Yeah, I've been sitting on this boat for so long. I've got sebum. Yeah, I like that. That was good.

But anyway, they think that the water might somehow have some sort of chemical reaction with certain people's sebum. And then the reaction creates some other substance that forms that gets absorbed by the skin. And that causes a histamine reaction or like an allergic reaction. or that there's an allergen in the epithelial tissue, the skin tissue that gets dissolved by water. So it's like a water soluble allergen. So it's fine when it's just in your skin. But when the water touches it, it gets dissolved into the water and then absorbed into the skin.

Yeah. And then that might be what's happening. I mean, clearly the biggest problem of this is probably the rarity, right? because it's hard to test. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, because you've got one out of, you know, eight billion people a year. And you're like, oh, hold on a second, quickly. Let's see if we can learn from this one person and we won't see another one for however long we're going to see them.

And I don't know how you test for that. Like, how do you ever get to the bottom of that? It's really, really careful. The hard thing about testing for it is that you can test for what's causing the reaction, but not necessarily. It's much harder to figure out what's going on underneath. Someone in the chat, Chris said, is there any chance that it's anxiety-induced hives? I guess with some people it could be. Because there is such a thing as anxiety-induced urticaria, and that's a whole other thing.

But they test for it pretty carefully. I mean, the test is pretty simple. Actually, they cover your arm or a part of your body with a thing that only exposes like an inch-by-one-inch square, and then they just put like a wet sponge on it. for 30 minutes. Just a regular old tap water? Just like tap water or do they do distilled? They probably do distilled.

I don't actually know. I would think that they'd want to do that just in case like just to rule out additives in the water. Iron or whatever. Yeah. You don't want to put, you want to have as pure a source, I assume, of water to get the best possible results. Otherwise, in Flint, Michigan, you're just put tap water on somebody's arm. Yeah.

Can't trust that. Right. right right no offense flint it's not your it's not your fault anyway continue but that's it so i just wanted to update people because uh it turns out that i was my my scoffing skepticism was um was my my skeptical toolbox was was tuned a little too high i suppose i should have um well it can happen right like if somebody says do you i heard people can be allergic to water and your first reaction is probably the right one you should be fair you did say it in a very thick southern an accent.

Right. But I knew I knew. It did come from a Facebook post from a, uh, an L.A. I mean, the thing is I knew I, I knew I had read it and I knew I had, I wasn't, I felt like I was going a little crazy because I, the way you were reacting, I, it was like, well, wait a minute, it's not that I didn't read this. Where did I see this? And then, yeah.

So I'm glad to hear that there's at least some about it. But this explains why it's, I mean, it's just freaking rare. Nobody has this. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. The other thing I wanted to, to briefly talk. about today was um it's it's a little bit of a plug for my show but I don't feel bad about that

because that's kind of why I'm here um it's totally but uh not last week but the week before we do this every other week now right so so normally every week I get a chance to say hey this was on my show so but I didn't this past time because last week was um was Steven Schlecker yeah yeah and so uh but last Monday we had an episode come out that um I covered uh an interesting some science that was being published that's kind of a one-of-a-kind study that was done that was a group of researchers that are working with meta the Facebook Instagram meta

and they gave them access to a ton of of their data and are letting them run not just data analysis on it but also they did a couple of experiments to answer questions about social media and echo chambers and how it affects things, people's political outlooks and political opinions. Right. Because that's a big question right now, right? I think Tom Merritt

brought it up on a DTNS and I didn't hear the whole thing, so I'm excited to hear the whole thing. You probably got more than you. I've got a brief, they did four papers that were, there were four published papers. There's actually going to be, I think, 12 or more that in the works right now but they just published four of some really interesting ones and i'll go through like quickly what the there's a lot on the if you want to hear a real detailed um digging into this then uh check out the episode that i did um two weeks ago and uh on all around science and um and i really dug into this but the real the real big things they had a couple of questions that they wanted to answer these these papers that were published the first one it's it talked a lot about

or what they were looking at were questions about how are how segregate you know one of the things that people talk about is that your Facebook feeds are very segregated yeah you know that you're only seeing specific things that you're in these echo chambers that you're only seeing things from like-minded individuals and how is that polarizing us as people right right and so that's the question um how are we getting polarized and so we we have intuition about that. Like, what do you guys think? Your intuition tells you that what? How are, how are social media algorithms affecting our polarization and our... The assumption is that it's affecting it greatly, but I'm pretty sure what this data is. Yeah, that it just makes it worse or, you know, if somebody's on

the fence, some of that may push them over said fence. I think that's what our natural inclination would be because it's so it is divisive language and it's divisive action and it's it's got all the hallmarks of an emotional response on on on sides of the issue like so I think that's not crazy to think that but I'm guessing I'm guessing this data is showing us that you were already kind of in the slot you were in and this didn't make any big difference is my guess maybe a little bit there's um it's as with many things in science when we start to dig into these questions and really try to get evidence for for what's going on um it's complicated for sure but that's you got to start there we want to have the actual data that's going to tell us

what's going on so that we can then ask more questions and really get a nuanced understanding what's going on so but yeah you're right you're in the intuition is that if an algorithm is showing us the things that we want to see then it would be curating it into such an extent that we're only seeing things because you can also block people that make you upset and all this kind of stuff, then eventually you're just going to end up with a bunch of people saying all the same thing that agree with you, and you're just going to have this distorted view of the world, right? That's the assumption. So what did they find out?

So the first paper looked at segregated feeds and basically just asked the question, how segregated are our Facebook and Instagram feeds? When they say segregated, they just mean like what type of information are you being exposed to, right? sure um they did find out no surprise that segregation does exist on a conservative liberal spectrum politically um basically you're these people are these two groups of people conservatives and and liberals are engaging with different types of political news that's that's what they mean by segregation they're not engaging with much of the same type of stuff right um and uh and it did find that conservatives are more segregated than liberals. Now, this is not a political statement. This is us saying that. It's just,

that's what they found. And, uh, and that, and this is to me the interesting thing of that paper was that the majority of news that was tagged false. So that, because meta, they've got their own, like, software behind the scenes that, that identifies things that are, that are, you know, fake news. It's false, right? It's not, right? It's not trustworthy information. So most, a majority of the news that the political news that they found that was tagged false was viewed by conservatives. And it's important to know that that that's still a small percentage. It was only like 0.2% of the total content being viewed. We can we can get sort of like a like a distorted understanding of what that means.

It's still a really small amount of stuff. But, but that's what basically that was it's true. Yes. Our news feeds are becoming segregated. That we can say. from this data that they looked at you're right that's that to me seems that part seems obvious to me it's just a matter of whether they're you know whether it's actually creating exodus from either side you know yeah and a lot of this stuff is going to confirm some of some of our probably some

of our intuition but there are some surprising things in here i think the next question they asked was what effect would so it looked at the algorithm right a lot of people blame the algorithm and i think it's fair to it makes sense that this would be causing weirdness in what we see that algorithm that we're talking about didn't used to exist right it's it's a relatively recent thing in social media it's not new by any means but um it hasn't always been there it used to just be chronological feeds right sure um and so what they did was they wanted to say because some people say what if we just go back to chronological feeds wouldn't that solve a lot of these problems because Facebook isn't just feeding us what we want, you know, or what will, maybe not even what

we want, but what will get us to click on things and spend more time on the platform, right? Right. So what they did, they actually tested, they did an experiment on this one. They looked at 23,000 Facebook users and 21,000 Instagram users, and what they did is half of these people on each platform, they switched to a, instead of having the algorithm serve them content in their feed. They had a reverse chronological feed, which is just the latest posts get fed to you on your feed.

From the top. Yeah. From the top, the most recent is at the top. And as you scroll down, you're going backwards in time. And that's it. Everything reverse chronological thing everybody says they want, by the way. Right, exactly. Yeah.

So this is an interesting one because, okay, they did find that a reverse chronological feed, users who had that did spend less time on Facebook and Instagram, which makes more sense. They spent more time on other platforms as well. And that makes sense, right? The whole point of the algorithm is to keep you engaged with their platforms. So if you don't have it, you would expect people to spend less time on there. So that did happen.

Also, the reverse chronological feed, this is the interesting part, I think, to me, and maybe unexpected is that people who had the reverse chronological feed actually had their exposure to untrustworthy sources increased. Okay. Okay. That's interesting. They were more exposed to untrustworthy

sources. Is it that the algorithm that feeds you popular posts, it gives you so many that it decreases the number of you know, non-factual posts or... Maybe.

Yeah, it just basically just there's enough crap that it just pushes all the other, the other crap down. We could speculate why that is. It's probably a large unknown because a lot of these algorithms are just black boxes. They don't really understand what's going on behind the scenes. But I think, I think my speculation might be that somehow through the way this algorithm works and through maybe crowdsourcing of some kind, Because the algorithm isn't just, I don't think, looking at only your behavior. It's also kind of trying to guess what you would be interested in based on people like you. And it probably is somehow crowdsourcing some of that untrustworthy information and not serving it up because in general, people don't engage with it as much.

Maybe it's more obvious than we realize how untrustworthy it is. And if it's not going through that algorithm, if it's just, if your feed is just showing you stuff, that people post in order, then you're going to see it, whether people engaged with it or not, right? As long as it's some recent bullcrap, then you'll see it, yes. Right. And so that's potentially a problem. It's at least something we want to be aware of if we're thinking about doing that, is that, yeah, you might spend less time on the platform, but you might be seeing more stuff that's untrustworthy, right? Right.

another question that they asked was what if we limit how much resharing that people see on the platform so we know what resharing is someone someone shares something and then you share it again right sure yeah I assume that's like repost retweet whatever yeah exactly yeah so what they did was they again another this was another group all of these papers were different people there are 23,000 Facebook users and half of them had reshared completely removed from their feed. They did not see reshares at all for three months. And then they looked at what happened to those people. And they found that untrustworthy content was actually reduced by a whole one-third when they did not get reshared content. So a lot of that stuff is coming is being reshared. Interesting.

Yeah. And that's so if you, by removing reshares, the ability to see reshares, you, you, you, reduced your exposure to untrustworthy content. But another, but importantly, also political content in general, in general and political news specifically was reduced by quite a bit as well. So the exposure to political news was reduced by half, by 50%, just by getting rid of re-shares. Wow. And that ended up decreasing people's news knowledge, which means that they had less ability to

distinguish between events that actually happened. versus ones that didn't. Are you surprised it's taking... That to me makes sense too. Yeah. Are you surprised it's taken this long for us to start doing this with this data? Maybe it's always been... No, I'm not surprised that it's taken this long at all because all of that data is proprietary.

Yeah. And so that's one of the reasons this is such an unprecedented and first of its kind study is because this is the first time that Facebook, or rather meta, has made this data available for free to researchers at universities to do stuff with. They had to sign a lot of agreements and everything, but... Right. And this isn't just some company who's trying to monetize this data. This is like for research purposes.

Exactly, exactly. And that's an important distinction to make. Some people are really skeptical and or at least, you know, have like, you know, looking at it sort of side-eyed and squinty because they're like, they don't quite, they haven't quite forgotten about the Cambridge Analytica. stuff. That was a different thing though. That was not just free institutions having free access for research purposes.

There was a lot of people were involved in deciding how this was going to get done and who was going to get access to it and everything. Also, all the user data has been scrubbed from all this. So it's just like behavior data. It's not, there's no user data associated with it. Oh, that's good. So this is just like how people are interacting. with threads or whatever it may be. Okay, that's interesting.

Right. The last interesting one that they looked at was the question of echo chambers, which is what if we broke up, like deliberately broke up these echo chambers, what would happen? They did another sort of intervention experiment. They looked at 23,000 Facebook users again. Half of the users, you might be wondering why 23,000 every time. It's not necessarily the same people. It's just when researchers design an experiment, they have to pick a number to give the, the results power.

Power is a term used in statistics. And so they actually decide the size of samples usually ahead of time. So it could be that they're all just using the same statistical models. It's potentially a different 23,000 every time for each of these different tests. Yeah. So they looked at 23,000 users. Half of them had all types of content from like-minded sources reduced by a third. That's a mouthful.

Just basically know that half of these 23,000 people had the amount of like-minded stuff coming in their feed reduced. All right. And they wanted to see, what would the effect of that be? And they did measure that, by the way, by, there's a pretty well-known, reliable way to measure people's political leanings that psychologists and sociologists use. So they just used one of those tests. It's been validated over time and everything. Right. You've already got it.

Why do it? You don't need to reinvent the wheel on that. That makes sense. So the first thing they did was just look at all of the data and see how much, they just asked the question, how much of an echo chamber is there really? How often are people being exposed to content from like-minded sources? And they found that the median Facebook user has half of their content coming from like-minded sources and only 15% of the content that they see is coming from straight up what they call

cross-cutting sources from from the other side of the aisle. Oh, cross-cutting. So not necessarily what's the opposite of like-minded? Basically things that they don't necessarily agree with as opposed to just blanket non-partisan kind of information. Yeah, the other percentage there, I guess what's that like 35% is. coming from neutral content. Okay.

Yeah, gotcha. That's a good way to put that. Sure. Yeah. 20.6% of users are getting more than three-fourths of their content from like-minded sources. So at least a fifth of all users are getting almost all of their content on their feeds are coming from like-minded sources. So that's a description of the echo chamber and what it looks like.

Well, I mean, because that's what they've designed, though. That's what algorithms are meant to do, right? not necessarily well because if all you want if all you want is like cat videos and you spend spend all your time looking at cats related stuff you are going to mostly get cat related stuff right algorithmically not the reversed chronological but algorithmically you're just always going to get those not always but most of what you'll get is that so it seems the same would be here if all you were interested in is you know shit posts from from somebody who agree with well then you're going to get a lot more of that right right but presumably though because these

are these are random users that they looked at and and they don't have user data on them so presumably we're getting a random sampling of people some people are not engaged on Facebook just for political content but they're still gauging where they fall on the political spectrum and figuring out what type of content are they exposed to so I don't really engage with with political content on Facebook, for example. But I can almost guarantee you that most of the content I see is probably people that agree with me. And that's not because I've curated it that way.

In fact, I often try, like, I deliberately don't block people for other reasons. But so it's not necessarily that it's only giving it to you because you want it. it's the algorithm doesn't care about the specific content the algorithm just cares about presumably i'm not an expert or anything but presumably the algorithm only cares about what's going to keep you on facebook right i would assume so anyway what they did look at though is if they if they cut the those that half of the users and they reduced the content on their feed from like-minded people what would happen um and so they found out that it increased their exposure to cross-cutting and neutral content, which, again, you would expect that, right?

If you're getting less stuff from like-minded people, you're going to get more stuff from other people. Sure. But it also reduced their exposure to untrustworthy content and uncivil content, which is good. That's a good thing, right? You want that stuff getting blocked as a plus. Yeah. Yeah. But here's an interesting thing.

Their overall engagement with like-minded sources decreased. And that makes sense because they're not getting as much of it. But the rate of engagement with those like-minded sources increased. So what that means in plain English is they weren't engaging with as much like-minded content. But when they saw it, they were more likely to engage with it than they were before. Interesting. Yeah. Okay.

So what does that mean? Who knows? Like, what does that mean for behavior? This is just a description of what's going on and what happens when you make these changes. Tons more questions need to be asked. Oh, an interesting thing about all of these. I just lumped it all together here in a summary because rather than say it all each time, which is that none of these interventions that they did had any measurable impact on their political polarization, their ideology, or their attitude. It didn't change people's minds at all.

That's the part I remember from Tom's thing is it seemed like the impact is not what you logically would expect. Yeah. Because our logic brains go, oh, it's so dangerous. These guys over here saying these things, that's really going to erode and whatever. And that seems like a valid theory to me until you look at the data and the data says, well, not really. If you came into it with a certain mindset, you left with the same mindset. You didn't change your mind. If anything, you dug your feet in deeper, right?

But what else could this mean, right? Maybe we know that people are more likely to engage if you reduce the like-minded content. they're more likely to engage with the ones that they see. Does that mean, this is total speculation here, does that mean, does that have implications for getting people riled up and fomenting, you know, like uprisings and stuff like that? You know, like political action. Who knows?

I would like to see, rather than just changing people's minds politically, I would think it would be interesting to see more research done on how these types of interventions affect individual. mental health, you know, like maybe anxiety about our political landscape gets reduced, right? Right. It's also interesting to note what we said before that people seem to be, when they don't have this information coming across them in these ways, they seem to become less informed about politics.

That could be a bad thing, too. Our democracy works if we know about what's going on, right? Yeah. Data, information and real data, data, whatever you want to call it, is helpful no matter what the situation is. So that's, I love this kind of thing. How can we do what some of these did? How can we reduce exposure to untrustworthy content while keeping the same or increasing the people's intelligence about the news? Their awareness of what's going on, right?

Someone's going to write in about this, I'm sure. but somebody somewhere's got a mother-in-law or a close relative, right? Who prior to this sort of stuff being prominent on the Internet or even the Internet itself, okay? They're older, whatever. They're going to say, well, my mother-in-law didn't go crazy until all this stuff started showing up on her Facebook feed. And then she started reposting it and then posting it and then posting it and blah, blah, blah. That's probably true. But what this data seems to suggest is she came into this prone to this, meaning

those, she glommed on to that because that's already where her brain is. And she's like, that's exactly my thought, because you can't, I don't think you can look at things that happen on social media and the way our behavior changes over time. I don't think you can look at this chronology of events and see cause and effect because of how new of a technology this is. So what I also know about how political stuff has been all over social media over the past eight years. What also has happened over the past eight years is that my grandparents figured out how to use a smartphone, right? Right. So it could just be, like you're saying, it could be that eight years ago, Grandma figured out how to get on Facebook for the first time, and that's what you're seeing, right?

Is that they're already kind of inclined to engage with it in this way, and it's just they've gotten better at engaging with the platform. You know, so it's hard to say. That's why experiments need to be done rather than just looking at. at what's happened over time because there's too many factors and variables that you can't isolate. It feels good that there's something's being talked about like this though, like some research is being done. I'm really interested to see what we're going to find out

more now that a lot of this data is being shared. It's also I think they need to do more of it for sure. This was all data that was shared like, it was like September to December of 2020. 20 or something, right? Like right when everybody is very engaged in a very specific way politically because of an election's going on, right? And in the fallout of an election. Right. So I wonder

if we'll ever, I wonder if Twitter slash X would ever cough up this data for someone to work with. It doesn't feel like they will. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with over there anymore. Can you, is, are people really calling it X now? No. Yeah. No, they're calling it X Twitter or what I see? I saw somebody, maybe it was in gadget. combine it as Twitter. Like the X-W-I-T-E-R, which I don't know how you pronounce it. That's more like Twitter. It is kind of quitter.

Yeah, it's a little bit quitter. Which isn't that too crazy. It's kind of funny, actually. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. There was, you know, there's always something to get weirded out by over there. Their recent announced, or Elon Musk recently saying they're going to get rid of the block feature. And then he turned around and blocked a bunch of people who were mad about the

block feature going away. Those kinds of things are, you know, I'm starting, I'm starting to see that most of that stuff is, it's all designed to get people flipping out, which drives engagement. Like, that's why you do it. Have you guys ever watched? I know, I think Brian, I know you have. Have you watched The Great? Oh, I love The Great.

The Great is great. Yeah. Yeah. Kim and I binge that whole thing. It's awesome. Great show. When I think of what Elon Musk must be doing when he goes to work every day, it reminds me of Peter of Russia.

Yeah. Just like, right. Like, he just walks in and he's like, something happens right in front of him. He's like, I'm just going to kill everyone.

Right. Exactly. Yes. Yeah, how much we just make this illegal now? I honestly think these, I'll make a prediction. One year from now,

okay, end of August next year, let's come together again on this show and see if I was right. But I think within a year, he either tries to sell it or steps out of it entirely and let somebody else run it. That's my thinking. That's what we need to do is we need to have like a quarterly check in on Elon. Yeah, kind of

bring back a forecast. Oh, I see you just saying a quarterly check on Elon. I was thinking like a quarterly prediction thing, but I like that too. We can do that too, but I'm specifically like what's going on with Elon Musk in Twitter. It's right. It's time for your monthly Elon update. Elon

did this. It's Musk Monday. Musk Monday. That's not bad. Because you know when when we were, when we were surviving the the four years with with trump every step of the way you kind of like forgot how far you'd come right like every once in a while you'd be reminded of of of like quaint things that happened four years ago or was like oh remember when Obama it was a huge controversy because he was caught smoking on the porch at the white house right right He had a brown suit on or whatever the deal was.

Right. That's what I feel like maybe that could be happening with Elon and Twitter. Like we're just, it's so crazy what's happening. What have we forgotten was wild before? Well, that's the problem is we will always find, I personally, it makes me feel manipulated because I don't think any of this stuff is actually, I mean, he may be a world class pud for all I know. But I really do think most of this is.

to rile everybody up. And by riling them up, what do you do? It feels like this data is actually going to help prove that, or this research that you've been talking about for the last half hour, because at some point, when you just come out and say something outrageous, what was the goal? The goal wasn't the thing you said. The goal was to get a massive boost in engagement. And he gets it every time. So it's not any different than any other loudmouth on the internet. They all get the engagement they want by saying something that seems crazy and contradictory. And it's taking me a while, but I think I've finally, finally seeing it for what it is. I'm just like, F off, all of you.

All of you are manipulating us. It's just constant manipulation. And I don't want to, I don't want to be a sucker anymore. I don't even think, I don't even think that's like a, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't think that's like a conspiratorial stance. It's not a conspiracy. It's just people know how to do. their business. If they're making money stirring up garbage, then I have my answer. They don't

believe in anything they're saying, nor do the people that are that are hyping it. It's all just a chance to go and pump it. Pump and dump. I don't want to be pumped or dumped anymore, all right. My new goal, no more pumping. Maybe a little pumping, but no dumping. Well, no, no, no. You know what? I'll dump once a day. Pump a couple times a week. Sure, sure. And it can't, it can occasional pump you don't want to do that too much you make a blind no you don't want to pump all the time gosh dang it no geez uh well that's this has been very interesting as always and if you want to uh make sure you stay uh interested in in cool science facts and neat neat things going on in the science world check out all around science which you can find it uh wherever you get

your podcast bobby anything else you'd like to mention before i uh i think i've gone on long enough this was uh almost as long as a film sack segment so i should be uh it should be that was a little razz at the film not film sack you know what i mean the recommendals recommendal so yeah no i like that a little bit a little jab at the old recommendals uh deal yeah uh but you're not wrong either uh we'll have a fantastic time we'll see you on wednesday for uh yeah for a little co-chair business and uh be safe in the meantime by now all right i'll leave a i'll leave a scone on the seat here in the booth for you there bobby i don't know if i trust a seat cone scone

Seat scones. Seat scones. It'll be in a bag. Oh, you'll put it in a nice bag. I'll put it in a nice bag. Yeah, you're not going to leave it out in the open. Come on. God, I really want to find one of those old-style scones.

Does that sound good? Sounds really good right now. I guess that's the difference between a scone and a scone, right? Like, you know, a scone is your bignet-style dusted powder sugar honey business. A scone is your, well, it's pumpkin season again here at Starbucks, so here enjoy one of our dry cake scone. Now, that makes me wonder if Starbucks does anything different here because of the... I doubt it, because it's not like they're made somewhere else, like they're made there in Utah. No.

They're made in the Starbucks slurm plant. Yeah, you're not wrong. It's coming from some massive plant. There's no way that they care. Seattle, like, there goes another 35,000 drag scones out to ship about to Utah to putting all the Starbucks locations out there. Yeah. The days where they were a... cute little place in Seattle that was slowly growing

or gone. That's gone now. That's right. Exactly. Claire, it's not that scones are an autumn thing. It's that that's when Starbucks trots out their pumpkin scones. Correct. And yeah, and they're not as good as not as good as what I would say are scones. Yeah, and they put

that pumpkin crap on everything and call it fall. That's what they do. Yes, exactly. So, welcome to America. Yeah. This is America. Can't wait for my pumpkin spice-flavored liquid death drink. It's going to be great. Can't wait. Oh, you know, it's coming.

It's got to be. I had one of those yesterday, but it was the mango locality. It feels like they're immune to that sort of thing. Liquid death is not going to kowtow to the pumpkin, to big pumpkin. If anything, they'd make fun of it somehow, you know? Yes, exactly. Yes. I love those guys.

Okay. Let's move on to this. Oh, check this out. We got a request for you. This is from Nick and Flagstaff to round things out today. A request for Brian to come to Flagstaff. Hey, Brian. Road Trip is the issue.

come to Flagstaff there are several breweries distilleries a bar with multiple pinball machines lots of bike paths and the Grand Canyon is just a couple of hours away Nick from Flagstaff you're gonna put that on your list you're gonna go through there possibly yeah I think Arizona would make sense I think going you know Vegas then Arizona then Flagstaff potentially or Phoenix or yeah but then over into Los Angeles I was talking to I talked with a lot of people about this weekend, not just the folks, but also the Fletchers who've offered a place to stay when I come through Illinois. It's, I don't know, it's shaping up. It may not happen this fall, like the original thought was October. It might be in the spring, but I don't know, it'd be a blast. I'd love to do this. Yeah. I want it.

I want, what do I want? I want, I want stories at the Fletcher. I want you to stay at the Fletcher's and then I want stories. Like seeing what it would be like a day in the Fletcher house. Like, oh my gosh, it seems like it would be an interesting thing. Yeah, when the Fletcher... Is it as funny as we all assume it would be?

Between Christine and Scott. How, you know... When Christine has a successful trip to the bathroom, Scott Fletcher says, Congratulations. That's a little weird. That is a little weird. Expect an email from Christine, by the way.

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I know you do. You want those couch parties on the weekend. We just did another one. You'll get that as well. I'm not having that this weekend, but that's because Brian's traveling. A little break from She-Hulk. for a week. For a little bit there.

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is the place to go. Go do that today. Brian, you got anything else before we go today? I got nothing else. Yeah, that's it. It's another successful Monday.

We got the Monday out of the way, which is nice. Yeah, it does feel nice. I agree with you. Oh, one other note. I received a code from a game developer for a game.

called ship graveyard two wait ship graveyard is that the full name let me get this right because i don't want to say it wrong okay oh ship graveyard simulator two um okay but basically you get they get they put big giant boats like fish boats all the way up to big carrier type things yeah on a big hunk of land and my job is to go out there with a huge hammer and a bunch of other tools blow torches and tear that thing apart and sell it for scrap and fulfill contracts and it's basically the the water-based version of the space thing that you play. Very much so. I think that's why they sent this to me because I think I talked incessantly about hard space shipbreaker.

So if you are wanting to see some of that in action, I'm going to be doing a little chore core today at noon on the live feed here on YouTube. So go to frogpans.combe. If you want to watch it, and it'll be on the archive as well for those who are listening later. but if you want to watch me break up some ships and sell up for cash, today's your day. Excellent. All right. Let's get out of here.

You know, and I'll tease a thing, too. I think we're going to have a soundography episode going up today. Let's see if I can figure out from my list who it's going to be. Is it Woodstock or the Bengals? Let me see. Let me see what the most recent episode is because I missed last week's getting it I like them bangles though

they're pretty good them bangles they're pretty good them bangles they're very entertaining with that whole you know suzana hoffs oh no bangles went up that was the last episode to go up so it looks like it will be Woodstock

we talked about Woodstock 94 the actual event so yeah should be interesting yeah I'm looking forward to that alright let's get out of here speaking of musical list like we didn't already record it like what am I you know

Yeah, it never even happened yet, but then it will. A song here, though. Do a song here. Sure, Brian, not me. Brian Schogems wrote in and wrote and said, Dear Symphony and Ballad, my mother Joyce passed away from cancer on midsummer's day. Oh, and wanted to honor her birthday on the 21st of August. That's today.

She was a music teacher from Buffalo who moved to Sweden and started a music program at the school. She worked, which then spread to almost every single. school in southeastern sweden she loved performing shows and the final project for every class was writing and performing their own musical she always accompanied every concert and show on the piano and i thought she would like something piano forward but dealer's choice love your mom love the show sign brine well she sounds awesome though what a cool thing awesome yeah uh absolutely brian and again sorry for your loss and sorry i made that noise like right at the beginning of your you know, in hindsight.

Let's get to request. Billy Joel was kind of the first thing that he suggested there. And I went with a cover of Billy Joel's Piano Man. This one, here's what's really cool about this. This one starts out very similar to the original Billy Joel piano man. But it kind of goes in a different direction, more orchestral and much more. I don't know, like fuller, richer sound than you'd expect. So I think this kind of goes, speaks to her talents and her, uh, developing, you know,

the final class project being a musical. Kind of, it feels a little like a, like a, like the, uh, coda of a musical. Here is rough silk and their cover of Piano Man from their album, Wheels of Time. It's going to do it for us. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back tomorrow for another show. We'll see you then. It's nine o'clock on a Saturday, the regular crowd

There's an old man sitting next to me, making love to his side, making love to his Sonic and Jean He said, Sam, can you blame me your memory? I'm not really sure how it goes But it said and it's sweet And I knew it complete When I wore a younger man's close

man to blow. Nah, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. And you're the piano man. Sing us the song, you're the piano man. Sing us the song, tonight. We're all in the mood for a melody, and you just feel it's alright.

I'm done at the bar as a friend of mine, he gets my drinks for free. He's quick with a joke or light of your smoke, but there's some place that he'd rather be. He says, Phil I believe there's a skill in. me and the smile went away from his face. Well, I'm sure that I could be a movie star if I could get out of this place. La-la-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Now, Paul is a real estate novelist who never had time for a wife and he's talking with Davy who's still in the Navy and probably will be for life

And the way to this practice in politics as the businessmen slowly get stoned And it's sharing a drink, they call loneliness But it's better than drinking alone Sing us a song, you're the piano Sing us the song, you're a piano man, Sing us a song, good night You're all the mood for melody And you've got us to feel alright

It's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday And the manager gives me a smile Because he knows that it's me They've been coming to see To forget about life for a while The piano sounds like a carnival And the microphone smells like a beer And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jaw

And say, man, what are you doing here? Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-la-na-la-na-la-la-na-la-la-ta-ha-tina. Sing us the song, you're all in the mood for a melody, and you're just feeling alright. Get more at frogpants.com. A what? A what?