The Morning Stream - TMS 2511: Lacrosse-Over

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Smelling the cantaloupe's butt parts. Scott looks at their melons. Zack Stapanackins. Star Trek: Upper Decker. I watched a child peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I felt bad for the kid, that's why I'm telling EVERYBODY. Coming up on Unhhh. What's Pre-K Called? Bowling Theory 101. Always get melon consent. Pinching A Good Thick Stack. Little Eric What's-His-Name. Me and a Dude Named Kevin Smoot. The Creative Nomads of Podcasting. Basically Heroin with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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That's why I'm telling everybody. Coming up on, ugh. What's pre-K called? Bowling Theory 101. Always get melon consent. Pinching a good thick stack. Little Eric, what's his name? Me and a dude named Kevin Smoot,

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I bless the Bears down in Idaho. The morning stream. What do you say? We get nipple to nipple. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is Tuesday, August 22nd, 2020, 23. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibbitt. Hello, Brian.

Hello. My milkshake also brings the boys to the audience. Yes, indeed. They live long and prosper. Better than yours. I'm pretty sure it was AI generated, but it was quite good. Oh, it was very good. Yeah, very well done.

Figured why not play it here. We actually just watched the Strange New World's episode that features the little crossover between Upper Decks, or Lower Decks, Lower Decks. Star Trek, Upper Decker. The Upper Decker. So I know everyone said they've loved it if you like both shows. How'd you feel?

Do you like it? Oh, I loved it. Yeah, that was great. It was extremely well done. And it kind of in the similar vein to Barbie, there was so many ways that that could have ended up being really cheesy and goofy, but it was done extremely well. So having not seen it yet, if this is a spoiler.

But wanting to be spoiled, I can all finish your sentence for you. don't want to spoil it you don't have to but here's my here's my question if is it like um do they how do i even ask this do they try to explain how does animation come up in the conversations i guess is what i'm saying or are they treated like they just that's just a different star trek show it happens to be animated for us the end user but in star trek world it's just lore it's just they're there they're people working in in the lower decks in the future obviously but they're not animated. Do they get into that, or is that something?

I'm not even going to go into that. I'll say that, I'll say that they all exist in the same universe, and so, yeah, there's... Okay. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. That tells me they address it, so that's good. Yeah, because there's a great, yeah, there's the, it's, it's, it's,

that episode has just done really, really well. Because it seems really hard to do. And I'm glad to hear that they nailed it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. How do you do something like that, right? How do you take, like, it's kind of like how excited we were when we first saw Asoka. Oh, first episode tonight.

Asoka in live action, Rosary Adasin, in the live action stuff. It's like, oh, my God, they did a great job of kind of translating this animated character into a live action thing. Oh, okay. That's a good, that's a good, a good litmus test, I guess, for what you're talking about. about well good you know what this seems like an impossible task and somehow they pull it off and i think that's great so yeah yeah so far the season's been great and plenty of plenty of christine chapel i'll just say that oh yeah how far in uh are you how many episodes um i think uh the one we just watched i think is episode seven let me see here i can look i can look

on my apple tv here remotely yeah we just finished episode episode seven. All right. So you're on the latter half of that, the back nine. I think it's, well, let me see how many episodes.

View details. There are a total of 10 episodes, so we have three left. Okay. Yeah, you're nearly there. Nearly there. A successful watch of Star Trek coolness.

So I'm pretty sure I watched a kid pee himself at a soccer game yesterday. Okay. And the reason I'm not 100% sure about this is, because I just didn't have any kind of confirmation, and nor was I going to seek it out. But we went to Van's... So Van had a big day yesterday. He had his first day at pre-I-I-I-I-Gay called.

There's a word for it. It's not kindergarten, but it's the thing before that. Is it just preschool? Preschool? Yeah, that's what we called it. Okay. I think that's what it was. But I don't know the Salt Lake lingo, but we called it preschool here. Pretty sure it was that was it.

Anyway, he did that. morning and then in the afternoon he starts his new city soccer team tournament thing and he loves it loved it last year's super stoked to play again so we went out there we're going to try to go to all his games are all on Mondays which is good for me so I we go out there we're watching them play and of course it's just ridiculous nobody knows what they're doing and you know there's like one kid who's like a really good little soccer player on the on the you know he's got a future in the sport and he's making all the goals but everybody else is just kind of dancing around Van doesn't really care.

Yeah, it's typically the ball and then a mass cluster of kids all moving around that ball like from end to end. Yeah, just dancing around it. And Van, in Van's case, he's like encouraging everybody. He's going, get in there

and he's like pointing the ball, but he's not kicking it himself because he just doesn't understand that he's supposed to get in the scrum and kick it. Anyway, it's all dumb. Whatever, it's fun. It's a good time. And anyway, about midway through this thing,

I see a kid run, stop, hold his unit oh no dance around for a second kind of like do a little bit like this yeah then he turns to his mom

tears rolling down his face and then ran to her and I went yeah he peed himself he peed there's no way you didn't pee and I felt really bad for this kid of course poorly guy

and no one else noticed nobody I'm not even sure the coach noticed I think they're all just like too busy watching another you know again you're corraling chickens basically. It really, you really are, yeah.

And good, you know, I mean, the kid doesn't need any further, like any embarrassment or anything like that. So good,

it's good that nobody else noticed. Yeah, and I wanted to run over there and just, like, give them like a, I don't know, we had cookies or something. Just give them,

maybe not a hug, but a fist bump from a distance. From a distance. With the other hand. Which hand were you, uh, yeah.

What hand were you not holding your wet wiener with? Okay, give me that one. Good little fist bump that hand. But it reminded me some of the most embarrassing childhood experiences that you can have are with kids sports if you're unlucky enough to have them like i i don't know if it's been ages since i told the story on

the show i think i told it years ago but i you know the day we dig pictures for our team just happened to be the day that i little scottie johnson didn't wear his underwear sneaky nut punch yep so i and because i'm tall they had me kneel down in front of everybody Of course they did. And so, you know, there's eight-year-old Scott with his doodle sticking out and forever to be there. And no one caught it during the time. Nobody said anything after they went. And, you know, this isn't like some digital photo.

You could like go, oh, let's go update this. This is the freaking 19, late 70s. You know, there was retouching going on somewhere, but it wasn't on soccer photos. That was like government, you know, government spy shit at that time or something. So, yeah, so I guess what I'm saying is, oh, and then the coach, the one year said, I had a real rough year that year. I just didn't play very well. It may have been the same year.

And he hit the trophy thing said, he's like, Billy, whatever. And he'd come up and people go, yeah, all right, Billy, you did great this year. Another kid had come up. All right, we got a little Eric, what's his name? Yeah, well done, Eric. Scott Johnson, I'd come up and he'd go, well, at least you showed up. and then my brother just about kicked that guy's ass he was so pissed so i guess what i'm saying is it brought a lot of feelings up you know seeing this kid have his little moment of humiliation and i

just kind of went oh i remember that yeah been there yeah i don't know look it's in a formative formative time it's important for kids to to you know i think it's good for them to to have good recreational competitive moments like this it's good for them to learn teamwork goals like literally it'll help you understand what having a goal means and what you got to do to get there and all that these are all important life lessons but sometimes you pee yourself and sometimes your doodles out and i don't know what else you know and those are life lessons too though those are just as important well i'll never do it again i can tell you i learned my lesson exactly yeah that's a that's where it goes it's like yeah i think it did keep me out of wanting to do sports though for the

of my really just the whole exposed wean thing part of it part of it that part of it was the the coach acting like I barely did anything that season there was just like a combination of things where I'm like I don't want to feel that way ever again that was awful why would I want to feel that again so I just you know and people would say hey you want to do tryouts for whatever I'd be like nah I'm good you know I can see it keeping you out of things like wrestling or or track stuff with shorty shorts maybe uh don't they wear like full on like head to toe gear in fencing. Maybe fencing is where you needed to go from that. I don't know if our school ever had fencing. That would have been cool. I would have done that. Yeah, we didn't have fencing at ours either.

We weren't fancy enough. We had rich kids in our school. About half the school was like super rich families and the other half was like middle class to dirt poor. Yeah. And it never quite got to the level where they got their way to have all their fancy stuff. But the school, Alta, which wasn't too far from us, it was a big rival of ours. They had fencing. They had all. the fancy sports you know i think they even had some kind of polo shit going on oh really oh jeez yeah and i think the closest we had was golf we had golf yeah we had uh we had golf we had bowling which was a weird uh a weird uh sports course to take it was the first thing in the morning of course i took it you did awesome tell us all about this how did it go at the bowling it was

great i mean basically you know they we got coached in bowling like how to uh how to do simple hooks, how to, you know, what the way to finish a frame, certain spares, the way to pick those up, obviously scoring. But honestly, it was like Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, we just met at the bowling alley across the street from the school, first thing in the morning. And Tuesdays and Thursdays, I feel like, I feel like we went to class and just talked about bowling. I can't.

Now that I think about it, it's like, what did we do? on those days that we weren't at the bowling alley it feels like we just talked about bowling like what do you do they have like a classroom component though like some kind of uh weird what would you do in there i don't know i don't know if it was like scoring or what do you do if you're not at the bowling alley that is a really weird thing and that was a can i swear to god i can't remember what the i assume it was like p e credit right like yes exactly wow it's perfect p e credit for someone like me who really doesn't want to go and play any, like, physical competitive sports. No, thanks.

Yeah, this wasn't my jam. I wanted to be in APR at all afternoon. That's all I wanted to do. Me and a dude named Kevin Smoot, we were like the, we were like the bowling buddies because he was in the same, he was in a lot of the same classes as me. And so we'd pretty much hang out all the time as like a, you know, one of your close friends in those days. sure and uh he had an ulcer so that was his excuse as to why we had to keep going to dairy queen that was also down the street from the school and get uh you know get ice cream it's like yeah i've got an ulcer it's like oh really and that that makes your ulcer feel better which i that's

what i hear right yeah milk milk and dairy get on your ulcer yeah well it's ultimately bad for it in the long term but it is in the moment it is very soothing is what i understand wow and an ulcer in school that would be rough God, no kidding. What was that from? Do he just nervous kid or what was his deal? I don't know. Maybe or maybe it was a...

Damn. What do they call that when you're kind of congenital defect kind of thing? Oh, it could have been, yeah. Yeah. Oh, stomach shit like that when you're young is bad because usually it just gets worse. It's not going to get much. All right, exactly. By the time you're 25, you've got a colostomy hanging out and you're, you know, all that.

Yes. Jay Fantastic says, Kevin Smoot, did he write the movie, Clarks? Oh, yeah. it's your not it's your mexican non-union equivalent kevin smoot chasing chasing omi yeah uh pedro and alicia make a porno or whatever that's your that's your go-to kevin smith you got uh i couldn't think of anything else what else is there uh ball rats you've got tusk i just think of the all the stupid side like the extreme ones j and silent bob you know i like to go for the friends

a little bit. The smoot character, I knew a smoot in high school. I wonder if they were related at all. I knew some smutes. There was the smutes up the street that I knew. But they didn't play golf or have ulcers, or a bowl.

I got golf did golf and bowl did have ulcers. I got some, we got a little something here from Dr. Nicky. We love hearing from Dr. Nicky. Oh, yay, yes. When she's not busy pushing clone sheep out the door. Right, exactly.

Squeezing brains. that a sheep? Yeah, she's got other thoughts. Anyway, she listens to the show and she always has a little thought here and there on something we've said. So today, we're going to find out what her take is about melons. Because we talked about melons, like thumping them, that whole thing. Yep, that sounds right, exactly. What specifically you're listening for that tells you something is ripe when you thump a melon? Yep, that is the context. So let's let Dr. Nicky tell us what's what. Hi, Scott and Brian. You can hear for the morning stream. And just listen to the episode where you're talking about picking the perfect cantaloupe and I happen to have much

expertise in this new year. So as you know, I'm Eurotrash and I grew up in the south of France and we got most of our vegetables at the farmer's market. And so my grandma, who, you know, is a typical grandma, has a garden full of vegetables and knows everything about fruits and vegetables you could ever imagine, taught me exactly how to pick the right canelope. So first, she says, you have to find the market vendor. And by the way, yes, I know this is not going to have any practical application when you go to like Costco or whatever, but this is just how you do it. You find the market vendor whose head looks like a cantaloupe. Listen, I don't know.

I don't make the rules, but that's what you have to do. Then you pick a cantaloupe and you do smell the little butt part and it's supposed to smell like really good cantaloupe. If it smells kind of like nothing, then it's not ripe yet. And that actually comes from the fruit emitting ethylene, like kind of like bananas when they go ripe. Anyway, I'm nerding out. And then, yeah, you thump it.

And if it sounds kind of hollow, then it could be rotten. It could be, like, dried out in the middle. But if it sounds kind of like nothing, like no echo, then it's probably also not right. That's how you get a good cantaloupe. Wow. I love the show, though. Everything she mentioned makes sense to me, except for the head shape like a cantalote bit. Yeah, exactly.

I'm going to find the fruit tender is that looks like a canolo. But I'm never going to not think of that now. You know, I go play craps. I look for the pit boss, his head is. cube-shaped. He looks like a six-sided dye. It looks like a six-sided die. Yeah.

No, look, every time I go to a store and we're near Melons, I'm looking now. I'm looking for a clerk or anybody. Anyone here? I look for somebody's head-shaped like a cantalope. I feel like picking up a cantalope and just going right for the hole, I feel like I need to ask its permission first. I do like, is this okay? All right, I'm going to, I'm going to smell your. your stem hole.

Yeah, your little stem hole. Yeah. Or at least take it to dinner first or something. Right, something. Just something. Yeah. I've, now that I think about it, I have done this because Kim, I think Kim does this. If it's a cantaloupe, she'll smell, she'll smell that, we call it a hole.

It's not a hole. It's a, it's a stem thing. It's the belly button, really. Yeah. It's where the cantalope was attached to its, to its nutrient-rich plant-based ground water, whatever. whatever, sure. And I've done that before because she says, oh, that's how you can tell. My problem is, I don't know what smells right. And she does. So if it smells a little fermented, I think you're like, oh, overripe. If it smells under-fermint, you know, not like anything

that you're like, oh, this isn't ready enough. I don't think I've got the taste for when's the right moment, you know. I think you, you know, you've got a great solution. You just go to the grocery store with Kim when she goes. And it's like going to a winery with, you know, with someone who's a real onophile as you is, you know, they taste and they say, okay, take a drink of this and like, you know, look for the notes of oak or a smoked barrel or something like that, right? And you, you know, you taste, oh, now that you say it, or orange peel or something like that. Now he can taste that. It's, you need somebody, you need a Sherpa. And I think Kim could be your Sherpa in a situation like that. It's like your Metzula in Vegas.

or Barry at a wine farm or whoever. Brian at a trivia competition. A wine farm. A wine, you know, where they farm wine? Yes, where they farm wine, yes. You know, it would be funny if you went with him to a winery and his way of test. I had done with him to a winery. Yeah, exactly.

And if his way of testing wine was to just deep throat a bottle, that'd be funny. He just suddenly went gall all the way down his throat. Oh, this one's great. This one's corked. This one's corked. I love the term corked because it means bad, right? Yes, yes. But what was it?

Faulty Towers, I think, has an episode where it's off. Someone says it's corked and he says, well, of course it's corked. Oh, yes, right, yes. And they have a whole argument because Basil Faulty does not understand that corked means bad. It's a great episode. Is that the same, these Kippas are off? It might be. It might be.

that is one of my favorite that's that's season two or series two episode one or four maybe anyway that is one of the greatest half hours of television comedy in the history of the planet it really is and it's an example of how you can do slapstick and not make it feel completely contrived and um and planned because he is he is running from you know balancing these people and this person wants a waldorf salad it's so good you guys apples celery celery that's a different episode but still that's the oh is that a different episode yeah but it's a great episode also like there's no bummers in that entire run they're all funny the genie says season two is garbage i can't i can't no there's no episode of that show that is garbage i can't no you got the don't tell the

germans about the war i don't bring up the war to the germans you got the uh you got that one he's hiding kippers in his vest and the guy dies in his room and a lady who won't put in her hearing aid because it wears the batteries down yeah series two genie we're going to have to have a long conversation i would say i like worst episode of faulty towers is still better than the best episode of something like modern family or cheers or whatever like they're that that show is on a whole different level and it's completely 100% rewatchable anytime. It's the kind of thing

I can just flip on. I mean, the only problem that shows, it's only on BBC, whatever their app is. I forget the name of their app. Oh,

really? There's no other streaming for it. They used to have it on Netflix for a long time. And then when that British app, Britbox, that's it. Brit box.

Brit box happened. And then they were like, bring all the cool shit over here now. Keep all your British things here. And then it stopped being available in like more common areas. And I don't sub to that.

So I guess I'd have to find a more complex way to what? it's uh yeah brit box is so misleading because it's like oh great i see this and i'm like great this is how i can finally watch later with jules holland uh great music show that um you just can't find online anywhere uh no no brit box doesn't uh doesn't uh do it either if they're going to be brit if they're going to put brit in their name they should have all british things that should be everything i want that's british should be available there yeah i agree i don't think that's too much to demand

All right. Would you, would you, I mean, that basically is like saying, you know, all the content that's on Hulu, Netflix, Macs, Peacog, Paramount. Oh, it should be all in one app. It should just be all available on one app. I guess it's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. That will not hold up in court if I try to push that one.

So, you know how you get notifications on the top corner of your screen, letting you know. I did just get one for an article and the, what is it? The Hollywood Reporter, the 40-ish most important people in podcasting. Should I really quickly scan this list and see if you were I made the list? I'm going to go ahead and say yes, but also make a guess that neither of us are in this list. Pretty much, yeah. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, deservedly for their thing.

Alex Cooper, Audie Cornish. Oh, these are all in alphabetical order? No, they're not. John Favro, John Levitt, Tommy Viotr. These people who are important in other categories... See, this is the problem. This is why I hate these lists like this, because all it is is ex-actors or current actors and comedians who made a podcast,

and I hate that. John Lovitz is not important to the medium. He just made a podcast, and I like it. He made a good podcast, I'm sure, but... Sure, he's fine. Actually, I don't like his show very much. I did listen to it. Oh, really?

I haven't listened to his show. It stinks. I wish it was more of that. Is that the review that... I wish it was more like that and less like... He's kind of a... He's pissy. He's not a happy comedian guy.

I don't know. Just robs me wrong. It's not my favorite. Yes, scanning list now. No. We're not on there. It's split up between talent, um, like on-air talent and executives.

And so the people from ACAST, Odyssey, which I've never heard of. Audio platform, formerly known as Entercom. No idea. Which is also a bad name. Entercom. Oh, my gosh.

Entercom, but now they're called Odyssey, A-U-D, A-C-Y. Either one. Audible, Higher Ground Audio, I-Hart. I didn't remember the guy. When I was sitting there, cradling, like, eight awards at the podcast awards that we did really well at, but also I was picking up awards for other people, and Chris Jerko called me Funny Hat Guy. The head of I-Hart Radio came over to me and says, I don't know who you are. I know who you are?

Wow. Yeah. What did you say? I said, you should you, mother. I don't remember what I said. It was probably something like, you dirty bastard. Of course you should know me. I said, you should know who I am.

Damn. Because I've been doing this a lot longer than you have, old man. All those guys. Like, look, we are, I will, I'll admit this and it's fine. We are all, when I say we, I mean, you, me, merit, a whole litany of people. people. Yeah. I think we are the Diamond Rio to the industry's iPod. Yeah, yeah. Once that happened, everyone forgot about you. No more creative nomad, no more. Have the people hearing me say this, don't even know what the frick I'm talking about. That's that's because the iPod is a creative

jukebox. Exactly. So when all these Rogan types and freaking Mark Marins and everybody else came in and then claim to have invented the industry. It's fine. It was built on our backs. We did our work. We're still here. We don't need your damn recognition. Go write your articles about IHeartRadio.

We don't care. We're fine. We're doing just fine. We don't need your accolades, your lists, your who's who in podcasting. We know who we are. Yeah, we know who you are. So F off. All right.

That's right. Exactly. Uh, Shojo also has some advice for us if you'd like to hear it. Would you like to hear Shojo's advice? Of course I'd like to hear show Joe's advice. I like what she calls in. Um, she cracks me up. And, um, yeah. Yeah, it's like listening to her TikToks, which are also extremely. I noticed she started playing Final Fantasy 14 in her TikToks, which surprised me. Oh, really? Didn't see that coming. Yeah, I had no idea. Anyway, here's what she had to say. Hello, this is your friendly neighborhood showjo with a pro tip. The best napkins to steal is from Tripole. Okay, bye. Why, though? Yeah, I do want to know.

I would like to know why. Also, why do you have to steal them? They're not cloth, right? You just take some. No, but, you know, I think if you take any more than you need for your current meal, you're stealing. Oh, that's interesting. So if I go grab a wad. Ooh, okay, this is a good question.

How guilty should I feel? Because I'll do this sometimes. Yeah. If they keep them up front, you know, wherever we're at instead of at the table, I will go up front and I will pinch off a good thick stack. Just for the two of you, for you and Kim. For me, Kim, maybe Carter's with us. This many napkins.

Like yesterday we were at, I'm not sure where we got. I guess the napkins came with the meal, so that doesn't count. We were at end and out and they were, that doesn't count. But I'm just trying to think the last time I did this. I think it was me Carter and Kim, and I just grab a big old wad of it. Depending on the, you know what, there's factors like grease factor. Yes, for sure. Sloppy.

the wings place right wings place there you need a big stappanappanacans stepanackens stepanackins stepanackins zappanackins that's right favorite comedians of all time oh yeah between two bushes he used to host that show um right though they're far better is it wrong napkins are crap by the way they're the thinnest garbagey oh i'll bet they're bad yeah so show you you don't say why though you just say chippoli is the best napkins and they say you got to grab enough for your car in your house and that is the deal Like, my rule is if I take a ton of napkins, the rest are going in my car. Oh, yeah, we don't throw them away either. We took whatever we had in the car.

So our glove box is, you know, got five or six napkin types in there. But if it's, you know, if Chipotle's so good, tell us why. Tell us why. Yeah, why is Chipotle? Is she in the chat today? I don't know. She is, yeah. She just hasn't said what makes them so good.

Well, I'd be curious what the deal is. Why? Because are they just thicker? Are they more absorbent? Are they made from better material? Thicker stock, you know? I know. She's leaving us hanging up.

We're like stalling to see if she couldn't give us. Oh, there we go. They are thick, made from recycled materials, and absorb the best. Recycled. Okay. That's cool. I support that. Yeah.

Because then I'm going to take them home and use them for other stuff and then put them in the recycling bin, which I'm never sure is going anywhere to be recycled. That's the thing. I've lost all faith in that. I didn't tell her have ruined us, haven't they? They really did. And not only that, then the pandemic came and ruined us further, because during the pandemic, we were told by our local trash pickup, uh, don't put any more plastic, uh, in the thing.

I'm like, literally plastic? We've got enough cardboard. You can just throw that away. We've got plenty. Yeah. We're never going to be able to get all this cardboard sorted out. You guys are, uh, get way too much stuff from Amazon. These are hard truths, man.

I don't like, I don't like, it's not an easy thing to hear and then swallow. But so now I'm just like, I'll say to Kim, I'll go, is this recyclable? And I'll do it sarcastically. We're like, does this even, does this pill plastic bowl? And she's like, you, I don't know. And I'm like, well, I don't know either. I know exactly the sarcasm level. It is the sarcasm level of the dude at the end of diehard, the reporter, when he gets punched by Bonnie Bedelia.

And he looks over the camera, says, did you get that? That's the level of sarcasm. I love that one. That's such a great moment. Such a great moment. But cans, I'll always do the cans. Cans always go in the recycling because I'm told that those aren't actually getting munched up and turned into eye books. We can't do styrofoam recycling in our bins.

Even the stuff that has the little triangle with the arrows. Right. What changed? Because that didn't used to be. Styrofoam was a very recyclable material back in the day. What happened? Was it never that way? Was it all being taken to a landfill?

I was just being lied to. Right, exactly. Is it just, you know, we don't have the facilities. It just exposes more CFCs into the atmosphere. And then sometimes I'll hear, you know, like this morning, I hear the truck come, you know, to do the trash. It's on Tuesdays. And I hear him going, br-br-br-doing all their stuff.

And in my mind, I'm going, half that shit's going on the thing. You guys are lying to me. Like, I just have no trust for it anymore. Yeah, yeah. Same. A little vinyl says the triangle icon doesn't mean recyclable. It's just a rating.

What's it supposed to mean? No. Yeah, I thought, wait a minute. I thought that the triangle indicated this is a recyclable item. It might be there may be a number on there to say how recyclable, but that's a recycle. It shows the arrows doing the thing, and they're going recycle. Exactly. Explain a little vinyl.

What does it mean? What does it mean? This is horseshit. That's what this is. Well, Shojo and Nikki, thank you for your thing. I guess we'll have to do our own research, Scott.

Okay, great. Yeah, recyclable, but not necessarily recyclable in your jurisdiction. That's the understanding that I have, is that the triangle means that it's recyclable doesn't necessarily like the little letters and stuff underneath it tell you what kind of recyclable it is. Oh, okay. So it could be regional or it could be all sorts of meaning.

Right. Like, you know, there's certain plants that can do that sort of thing. But, yeah, that's the way I understood it. And are you saying that it's different? Like, are you saying that triangle? Like, there's stuff that has a triangle that's not recyclable anywhere. Yeah, if it's not at all. That I don't. That is either, that's them trying to get away with something or that isn't correct. That has to be a little bit, right? There has to be a little recyclability to something. As in the chat says it's all BS. Plastic. is almost 100% non-recyclable. Oh, we've got to give, we're going to give. Somebody out there knows more about this. We need someone to ride in or call in, tell us more, because I need to know. Yeah. Brian and I need to know.

Okay. We need to know more. If you want to, 801-471-0462, can I say this to? Dr. Nikki has the coolest accent. It's barely one. Like, it's kind of gone, but it's just enough. It's just enough. It's like, oh, someone was raised somewhere.

and Europe somewhere. I can taste it in there, just a little bit, a little something there. I'd love it. She could read me a book and say, the sheep was just a single sheep. She could tell me a story

about a satellite who's finished their purpose and it's floating off into space. That's what she could do. Just wanted to read me at night and go, Mary found a single sheep and then took its DNA and made more sheep out of the one sheep.

Now there are multiple sheep. Good night, Scott, she'd say. None of them now have brains. None of them have. brains. All right, let's move on to some news. It's important that we inform people, not just entertain them, so we'll do that now. Time for the news, brought to you by.

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I like that I also think Magneto's button being enamel is kind of ironic it has a metal back to it but yes it is yeah this is something I just wonder if they'd let him have in his weird cage they built for him in the right in the movies you know yeah exactly it's how they how they kept him in prison I'm sorry we all of our weapons

are enamel so he can't wasn't that the deal they were all like plastic guns and yeah yeah was that uh the no it was the second film second one second one was so good the second one was great people don't remember how good two was two had striker in it played by ronnie or not ronnie cox uh brian cox yeah that's good a lady death strike you had uh yeah oh yeah we had a we had a we had a hint to phoenix a little bit of colossus do we have colossus oh yeah we did it was early though like at the school or something yeah you i think he's still busted through a part of the dam or something.

Yeah. Things didn't get weird. You get juggernaut, bitch. I think he'd get him in there too, don't you? I thought that was third. Was that third? Maybe it was third. I don't remember.

Yeah, you know, now that you say that, I think it was third. That facility where they were holding Kitty pride and... Oh, and she's running through walls and he's breaking through walls. He's breaking through them, yeah. That's right. I'm the transporter, bitch. Let's do this story.

Speaking of wine. Yeah. Wine lovers. Get ready. Here's a story for you. you, California Wine Company, has 2,000 bottles seized for fermenting wine in the ocean illegally. I didn't even know you could do this in the ocean, but apparently you can. I'll bet Barry knows about it because he knows all that wine shit. So they bottle it and then just put it in, hide it in the ocean?

Well, it says, I guess we'll find out, right? Yeah, here's what they say. They lost more than 2,000 bottles of wine and other alcoholic beverages to the city government after illegally fermenting their product in the ocean. It still doesn't make sense to me. Ocean Fathoms will, that's literally their company name. Yeah, it feels like that should have been the tip-off to the ATF is that maybe their ocean fathoms. Where are you holding your wine? On land.

On land. Totally on land, not the ocean. Preventing totally on land. That's why we're called. Yeah, we swear we're not. We're not put in the water. How deep are you doing your wine? Fathoms.

This is Santa Barbara District Attorney's who's after them. It's part of their plea agreement. let's see local wastewater treatment plants took care of the alcohol and glass bottles they were all recycled uh-huh wink wink recycled better check the number glass i believe glass and aluminum and i feel aluminum i feel like they they do and do pretty well i think so too because that's how we get all our macbooks you know people melt down those cans aluminum aluminum yeah whatever happened to that guy what's he doing jonathan hive yeah Is he just chilling now? He's just sitting there designing stuff in his house.

Because he's not with Apple anymore, so I don't know who he's working for. He's got this great aluminum toilet paper roll holder that I've invented. Because I will admit, I will admit to something. I realize it's all, it's kind of bullshit, all right? But I loved his videos where he would narrate the design of the AirPods or of a new phone bezel or whatever. And he's so proud of the fact that there just weren't, there weren't no seams. Just, like, feels like it's carved out of one piece of aluminum. Aluminium.

Seameless. Milled out of one piece of aluminum. Something about that guy's voice. It's pretty good. I like it. Let's see here. The disposal of their wine was the result of a plea agreement where the two or two of the three founders pled guilty. What the third guy do?

I ain't, I ain't falling for this. Well, we got two thirds of them. I guess so. The misdemeanor charges for illegally discharging material into the U.S. West Waters, selling alcohol without a license. Well, that's a whole other thing. In addition to aiding and abetting investor fraud, a very other thing.

According to the attorney's office, Emmanuel Rezito and Todd. Azaretto. And Todd Han, he's boring compared to Azaretto. I would say Han for him, but yeah, whatever. Han Han, Han. Yeah, Han Solo. Han Solo. So that's how Jessica Hahn spelled it. That's true. Remember her whole deal?

She was pretty good. Remember her whole deal. Did you ever watch? How about another rabbit hole, Scott? Do it. Did you watch that Jim and Tammy Fay Baker movie with Jessica Chastain and... I wanted to, but didn't. The eyes of Tammy Fay.

Yeah. It was really, really good. I heard it was great. Yeah, I like her a lot, the actress. I do not like the people they're basing this on. No, no, absolutely not. But it was, it felt like it had just enough kind of borderline comedy that was just comedy because these people were really funny,

unintentionally really funny, the stuff they did, right? Spider-Man number two was the Jim Baker. That's right. Andrew Garfield. I was trying to remember who was Jim Baker in this. Yeah. And do you remember who was Jessica Hahn in that? That was someone famous.

I don't remember. I remember these other two castings and not that because I hadn't seen it, but I remember the time going. Cherry Jones. Vincent Dinoffrio was Jerry Falwell. Oh, my gosh. Did he do a trying admission that he was masturbating or whatever? Gabriel Olds was Pat Robertson.

Where is? We didn't talk about how, look, I don't want to celebrate anyone's death. And the guy was in his 90s, okay? But I'm kind of glad. I'm glad that guy's not around anymore. Oh, I know. Yeah. He was a terrible.

He did. I just feel like he did more harm than good. He did a lot of harm and very little good. Plus, that whole thing with the guitar hero line. I mean, we'll cherish it forever and we'll play it on the show anytime we feel like it. But, you know, that lady and her guitar hero question is the only good thing that ever came out of that whole thing. It really is. I am not finding who played Jessica on in this. Crap. That's all right. Well, I'll watch that. Is that streaming? Is that a thing I can? It's got to be streaming somewhere. Let's see here. It's the other thing I can bump in front of parasite, you know? Just stick it out in something.

You can pretty much bump anything in front of a parasite. I look forward to doing that. I'll just talk recently about that click, click, boom, the Andrew Garfield thing. Oh, yeah, you can only stream the eyes of Tammy Fay on what is this? What is this thing? What's it called? Wow Presents? Wow Presents.

that's where it looks like so blizzard.com everybody get over there exactly wow presents plus because you know if you don't get the wow presents free version well if you already subscribe to world

of warcraft you can get it for free so you'll be fine uh that's a bad joke uh moving on yeah I'm on this site wow presents plus uh their menu items are

browse search drag race availability merchandise dragon con UK tours. I don't know what this thing is. What is this? That's really, why would they have that? Streaming service, browse, search, drag race availability, merchandise, DragonCon, UK, and tours.

DragonCon? That's a DragonCon thing? Oh, I'm sorry, drag con. DragCon. DragCon. Oh, like drag, like we're in drag. So I guess that's what Wow Presents Plus is a, yeah, Wow Presents Plus is the only streaming service featuring multiple RuPaul's drag race franchises, pained with Raven, work the world,

and hundreds of other World of Wonder originals, documentary specials and LGBTQ programming all ad-free. I'm going to put this in here so that you understand

why I just said that. This is the name apparently of a show. How would you pronounce that? Let's see. You're putting it in our Discord. In our Discord chat. Ugh.

Or ugh. Ugh. Yeah. It's not just me. What the frick? Is that is that just a, That's a show?

That's a show, apparently. Hey, honey, get it. Come here. Ugh, is about to start. Exactly. That's stupid. Un-H-H-H-H-H. Yeah, I don't like it.

I don't like it. I don't like it. Well, anyway, these guys, I guess, put wine at the bottom of the ocean or bottom the floor of the ocean. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's where we were talking about that. And I guess it speeds up the process of fermentation, and they're not allowed to do that unless you are well i think you're not allowed to do that at all because the ocean is uh you know

it's a sacred place brian you can't just stick your shit in there we must protect the fishies uh final story cop was arrested and fired for allegedly stealing Pokemon cards oh no i mean this is way better than breaking into some apartment and killing someone in their sleep i'll take this over that but still but your hands up and give me that snorlex yeah what are you doing there with your charzar jiggly puff Um, here's what it says. In a bizarre turn of events, Alabama connections off to corrections officer, rather, found himself arrested and subsequently terminated for allegedly stealing Pokemon cards from a Walmart.

The incident which unfolded in full view of a loss prevention employee, oh man, that'd be an interesting job. You know, I don't know if Tristan's still over there working there, but he doesn't know. His last day was last week. He started his new job yesterday at Miel Wolf. Oh, nice. No way. Oh, he's already, like, already really likes it. He says, oh, my God, everybody here is super cool.

That's great. It's going to be a great place to work. I'm stoked for him. That's great. But as customer service manager, he worked very closely with the loss prevention department. And those would be the guys who would have to tackle people on their way out of the store when they were trying to run out with an air conditioner. I don't know why I find that so I want to talk to someone who does that.

Yeah. Yeah. It's fascinating. Because you know they got stories, dude. Yeah. Totally. Oh, that's great. Well, anyway, they caught him.

He's a cop. He caught him. Allegations against Hardy assert that he stole Pokemon cards by surreptitiously opening multiple card packs and discreetly placing individual cards in his pocket. Oh. So, like, super shithead maneuver. Not just taking packs, but like, I'm going to open all these packs. I'll be finding cards I want them. I'll leave the other ones.

Yep. He got confronted. And then he fled on foot. all right it's what you do when you leave a walmart i don't know what else we're going to do hop on he fled on a rascal yeah where's where's his hoverboard like of course he fled on foot the uninformed officers subsequently found at a local restaurant still in possession of the stolen Pokemon cards uh he ended his career and police to form police uh or law enforcement as a result nice going to be a wild corrections officer appeared

Whing. Handcuffs, super effective. Well, that'll do it for your news, everybody. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Dan, the Tabletop Man, will be here. I have it on good authority. He's going to have some interesting stuff to say about the opioid epidemic as well. Don't forget, Dan's a pharmacist, a big one. He's Big Pharma, we call him.

Big Pharma. Yeah. Remember that character in the Sopranos? They called him Big Pharma. Nope, that's the different P word, different P word. Maybe not exactly the name he had. Not exactly. But Brian's going to...

Will he also talk about any sort of tabletop stuff? I'm trying to think. I may have been a tabletop dancer of some sort. Brian's going to play us a song, though, so we can get to him. Hey, Brian, why don't we do that? What do you have there today? Yes. How about a good song for an even better cause?

A songwriter Melody Federer has a brand new single that she's released, a dreamy synth pop song that examines what happens when we fall out of love. That song is called appropriately Falling Out. um proceeds from uh the sales of these songs or the streaming you know every time you stream it or buy it or whatever proceeds are going to be donated to the mcfleetwood foundation to help support the maui wildfire recovery efforts so check that out it's a good song good cause she has a brand new album called chapters from the fairy tale comes out september 7th um and maybe that title gives you some idea that yeah we're kind of get into some some taylor swift uh kind of pop sounding stuff here whatever i like it and i want to you to hear it. She's currently signed to the Lickrish Pizza Records label. Here is Melody Fetterer and the song Falling Out.

I can't help it when they said goodbye. It's harder than I thought trying to cut these ties. I was dreaming now I'm almost awake. Don't want to see what's right in front on my face. I guess the higher you fly, but harder you fall. This broken wings are healing slow

Oh, and in love it was a walk in the park Strawberry ice cream kissing in the dark Midnight movies winning a little too far Making plans into a blanket of stars Something happened in the blink of an eye Now you're so on a little break it Folling in love And once we're walking the park

Falling out of this a heart park So who's leaving It's a talking town I can't handle seeing you around Maybe time We'll make it all okay Until then I know I feel this away Can't believe how fast a heart can break

How long two pieces are back in place For men in love it was walking the park Strawberry ice cream kissing in the dark Midnight movies went a little too far Making plans on the place Little bit of stars Something happening in the blink of an eye Now you're soon

I'll recognize Folling in loud Was we're walking the park Folding out There's a hard part Oh, oh, oh, wow, oh, wow, oh, oh, wow, and the world to walk in the park. Strawberry ice cream kissing in the end of the dark. The night, the movie's been a little too far.

plans and look like it starts something happening in the blink of an eye and die

or someone that will recognize falling in love and was walking the park falling out of this a heart cry

uh uh oh oh uh... He took a He took a blowment from me, causing both him and the dragon lord to fall into the depths.

of an abyss. You've seen him. You play him. Yeah. Do tell who that artist was again. Okay. That's a performer who goes by the name, Melody Federer. Probably her in real name.

I don't know. Anyway, she's a musician who just released a song, Falling Out. Again, proceeds go to the Maui Wildfire Recovery efforts. Her brand new album, chapters from the fairy tale comes out in a month, September 7th on Lickrish Pizza Records. Nice. Related to the

famous tennis player, perhaps, the Federer, what's his name? Roger Federer. Is that the guy? Could be. I don't know. I don't know how common that name is. I think it's French, right? Noted solo artist as well as an accomplished

writer for various musicians. Her style is genre agnostic and her stage presence is effortly versatile. Whoa. Written by AI. No, I'm just kidding. May as well be. No mention.

Yeah, I think that it would probably get mentioned if she was related to Roger Federer. Yeah, you'd think so. That's a faintless connection. Yeah. All right. Well, on that note, let's get Dan in here. We only get him once a month, so we're going to celebrate this moment by bringing him on and having a chat. And we'll start it with this.

Here's a Dangent for him. Be careful. May he cause drowsiness. It's Dan Dan, the Tabletop Man. joining us as he does once a month from the beautiful southwest of America, or not southwest, southeast of America. You're in the wrong side of the country. Greetings programs.

Hey, man, what's going on? I guess we are the southeast of North Carolina, a little bit north of Dunawayville. Yeah, a little bit. But still, it's nice to have both Carolinas represented here. We got Bobby, you, Dunaway, all of you guys. Right. Oh, it's right. Bobby is not very far.

And I don't think, Joe, Joe's right down the road, too, I think, isn't he? September's pretty close. Yeah. There's a real lot of you down there. Yeah. Just a big chunk. Apparently not close enough or not important enough or something that you can't come see us at the that pulled meet up.

Apparently we don't rate. Oh my God. Do I ever want to get up there so bad? So my son is going to the Great White North for prep school hockey. And we have to drop them off over Labor Day weekend. And that was supposed to be my weekend to work over Labor Day. So I had to move it because we're going to be gone for two, basically two weekends, because we're going to drive up there.

And then the next weekend, we drive back after our. whole week of moving in and everything else to the boarding school. So I had to move my weekend to work to this weekend. Now, there is an outside shot. And I may either text you or done a way to see where you guys are on what you're doing and such on Saturday because there's an outside shot. I may be around Saturday. And it's, I mean, it's like a four-hour drive, but, you know, I'd do it for you guys. Oh, man. You do it. Oh, you're awesome. Yeah, four hours is a chunk. But, yeah, it's worth it. These guys are worth it. Sometimes we're not as busy on a weekend. So they ask us, do you want to take a Saturday off and just work Monday? So I may

I may take him up on that if they offer that to us if it's not as busy. How long of a drive is it up to where he's going to be at school? Is that a big? Oh, we're going to do it. Actually, if we did it straight through, it probably takes about 14 hours to get up because it's, it's right across the border. And it's in Sherbrook. It's outside of Sherbrook in Canada, which is up in Quebec. So it's, uh, or Quebec. It's right north of, uh, of Vermont, like basically like, half hour north of the border of Vermont up there. So we'll probably drive up, you know, take our time on Saturday, go stay somewhere, do a little, you know, touristy stuff with DJ and then drive up on Sunday and get there on Monday.

And then all this stuff starts like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for the school. So it's going to be, going to be weird because we're going to be empty nesters, which is going to be a... That is weird, right? Epney nest seems a very strange feeling. Brian and I can both sort of attest, although after pandemic, Carter came back and I actually really like having her here. so I'm dreading the day that she goes again, but it's a weird feeling to be like, it's me and you again, like those early days, you know, what do you want to do? You want to get, you want to get naked and get drunk?

We've embraced it fully, yes. Exactly. Well, anyway, that sounds like fun and also grats to him. That's a very cool thing that he's doing. Yeah, so he'll be up there for three years. He's reclassed to his sophomore. And speaking of sophomore, we just dropped Lauren down at Wilmington, U.N.C. Wilmington for a sophomore college year.

So that's why we'll be empty nesters. Jeez. Look at you, man. Your whole family's growing up. It's unreal. I mean, I remember, God, I mean, obviously we all remember when all of our kids were so young. It's just, it's nuts how fast. You know, you tell all the people that have kids, don't blink because you think it's going to be taken forever for them to walk or talk or go to school and do things on our own.

And then they're out of your house. It's over before you know. I know. I don't like it. I don't like it. I miss a lot of that stuff. I get to relive it a little bit with these grandkids, but it's still weird to me. So before we talk about Oxycontin and some opioids,

I don't know if you guys saw this around Gen Con. You guys were just talking about all the Pokemon theft. I don't know if you saw the big news about there was a $300,000 theft of Magic the Gathering cards at GenCon. Whoa, no, I didn't hear about this at all. Holy cow. You can file this under dumb criminals as well. So two dudes allegedly, let me put allegedly, I don't think, I don't think that. they've been brought up on charges or surrendered yet,

because I haven't seen it in the news in the last couple days. So we'll throw the word allegedly on here. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Taking pictures carrying out a palette of these, you know, CCG cards, which were later said to be, Magic of the Gathering cards. They wore a T-shirt of the game they designed on board game. So, like, they could do this quick smash and grab and take these cards,

but anybody's seeing them says, well, we know who those guys are Because of course. Like everything else in the world, their game is the number one hotness on BGG right now. It doesn't mean it's been sold or anything. Just hotness is basically on clicks onto their site, onto their board game page. So this game is roasted,

and it's a terrible game. It's not great. But anyway, I don't want to save the name because I don't give them any more publicity. But you don't have to go far to find it. But this is, you know, you would just think that you would have heard, you know, either arrests or turning themselves,

in or something like that because you're on camera, everybody knows and they're just, you know, they're not a weird size where you could say, oh, that might not be them. No, you could tell who it is, basically from these pictures. But anyway, that was, I thought you'd love that story.

I was going to say, I make sure the suspect isn't all tattooed on his face and has a multi-million dollar record deal, because it sounds like something Post Malo would try to get away with. He loves those cards on it. That would be that for that magic card, that one ring, uh, magic gathering two million bucks man it would be great to get a call from somebody like hey uh hey mr abbott

i uh i uh i got this yeah i heard you got the card can i buy it for for two and a half million yeah is that is that your post balone is that your personation wow it's not a very good post malone guy but you know i do that sounds more like the weekend sorry that's all that was yeah sorry i'm get i get them confused sometimes all these uh the popular singers speaking of which you've never heard their song they did together people should seek it out it's fantastic The weekend in Post Malones. I forgot the name of it, but it's very good. Anyway, well, Dan, let's talk real quick.

So for some reason, I got, I finally got around to watching Dobsick like a year or more after, I think two years after Brian recommended it. Yeah. Wow, is it out that long, Dobsick? Yeah, 20, 21, I think. I think so. Okay. And it was, I loved it. I really loved it.

Most of what I loved about it was everybody gave just a series of insubes. insane performances and I don't know a ton about the story about Purdue Pharma and I don't you know how much of this is accurate how much it isn't all that stuff you you're currently also watching that thing on Netflix or have watched what's it called um pain killer so I've watched the first two of pain killer and I watched the first one of dope sick and it's pretty amazing how they both cover a lot of the same things they give you some other kind of outside information of both of it like so you get getting even more information the real really powerful thing is, I believe it's a painkiller. At the beginning of each episode of

a painkiller, somebody says, oh, you know, somebody comes on and says, oh, while some of the names and some of the details have changed, what hasn't changed is the fact that my kid died at 40 because of being addicted to OxyCon. And that's powerful at the beginning of this type of show. I agree. There's some of that toward the end of dopesick, where they kind of meshes. You know, this is weird. It reminded me of, this is really, funky. It reminds me of Schindler's list as they get toward the end and Schindler is being reminded that he saved a ton of people with his list, you know, the list. And then, but then it, titular list. Yeah, but then it morphs into a color footage of actual survivors going to

his gravestone, putting stones on his, on his, on Schindler's gravestone. There's something about that kind of transition that sort of kind of happens at the end of dope six. It's like, oh, some, you know, now we're seeing real people with. whose lives have been affected and all that. But anyway, all of this talk back and forth, and you and I have texted back and forth about it a little bit, about the difference between the shows and stuff, made me want to ask you a question, which is this.

You've been in pharmacology for a long time. And because of that, I assume that a lot of when this was going down, you know, the crazy marketing push that Purdue Farm and other opioid manufacturers were making and doctors beginning to just like go crazy. crazy with with their levels of prescription based on some of what turns out to be a big fat lie all that stuff did you get to see some of that from your vantage point as someone in the industry as it was going down like how did you view all that so i've worked in a pharmacy industry since the late 90s because even when i was an intern i worked at different pharmacies and then i've

graduated pharmacy school in 2000 uh so i'm not a pharmacologist but i am a pharmacist i'm a doctor pharmacy. So I have worked plenty of years of retail. I'm not in retail anymore, but I work plenty of years, especially around a lot of the peak of what this is. I mean, we're still, I don't want to belittle it at all. We're still in a peak. I want to call it an opioid epidemic. I mean, there's, because these meds do a lot of good in the world. Generally, therefore, chronic, you know, the people that have the crazy amount of pain and cancer pain, I can't stress enough how, you know, when you've had surgery or you've got really nasty things going on or cancer, These drugs do great good.

However, as you could tell, even from, like I said, even from dramatization from there, that's not what they were looking for. They were trying to corner the market on just everyday pain, which is not a great thing for long-acting opioids. Now, we would see, and I also did a rotation for a couple of months with a happen to be a guy whoid hockey with. He was a doctor in Benson, and I actually went to his office and watched every day. But it was amazing because this was back in a wild west of drug grab days.

Now, they've clamped down quite a bit on drug reps. Now, I watched the drug rep bringing a set of golf clubs to my buddy's office that had his name on him and gave him to them. Now, I cannot tell you who the drug was, and I don't think it was an opioid or anything. And my buddy wasn't doing anything for Gasey. I mean, I was there for a lot, long time. And if you ever watched, I don't know if you guys, if either one of you watched it, episode two of Pain Killer has, because they both kind of go into kind of the drug rep mentality and such. Oh, big time. But there's in episode two, not just, I'm sorry, a little spoiler alert, the drug rep, the one girl that they're kind of training an episode, you know, in the first couple of episodes, she goes into this doctor's office and this doctor just tears her a new one.

And it's all stuff that, like, I've had the same conversations with somebody's drug reps where it's like, are you kidding me? You're trying to tell me it's less than 1% of addiction? What kind of damn studies have you done? Because that's horseshit. And there's no way an opioid has less than 1%. addiction. It's your bullet crap. Do you know what this stuff is?

It's basically heroin. You know, all this stuff comes from the same place. You cannot tell me there's no addiction to it. Yeah. Okay. Now, let's fast forward to a story I have for you guys. And we could, my God, for the next few months, we can go into more controlled substances and, I'm not controlled some more opioid

type stories or thoughts and stuff. But I want to give you guys a personal story. Everything I say here is 100% true. I worked at a chain. It was Eckerd back down. I think Eckerd is out of business. I think they were bought by right in. I think everything is out of business.

But I worked at this store at Eckerd. And right next to us, we had kind of an office park. And it had doctor's offices in there. And we would get some scripts from people just walking over there. But the main thing that we would see was basically this. We started seeing scripts for Oxycontin. And we would see, and this was from a psychiatrist office. Now, this is a little bit unusual for a psychiatrist.

or pain meds, let alone a schedule two narcotic in these kind of things. Now, Scott, I had you ask Wendy, do they see a whole lot of, you know, control substances, not necessarily control substances, pain control substances and opioids? And I think she said basically, no, she doesn't do any of that. She doesn't do any of that, yeah. She told me that she doesn't prescribe opioids of any kind. In fact, she's slow to prescribe much of anything. she's one of those her her her practice and therapy is usually like focused on the cognitive

stuff like it's all like in office type focus and so she's got psychiatrist friends who she will refer people to sometimes and say well this person clearly is in need of something you know we need some meds here but she is she is very slow to prescribe anything about you know that world does I'm not saying they don't need meds there's plenty of great meds for psychiatry and therapy This is nothing to do with that. This is Oxycontin from a psychiatrist office. Now, this doctor would send over scripts for Oxycontin 80, 100, and I'm talking, and I shit you not, 200, 300, 400 tablets at a time. Jeez.

Now, those doses are stupid. I cannot stress this enough. 100% true story. These doses you may, may see in cancer patients. And I've got no problem with that. Palliative care, end of light care, give them anything they need. Yeah. These were not with cancer patients because, believe me, we called and asked.

And back in the day, kind of like they were talking about where, you know, there was a big push for pain. And let me say this, too, this is something we're, and this is not just a me thing. There's something we're always taught. Pain is what the patient says it is, and I 100% believe that. However, kind of like the, kind of like the customer's always right, there's a limit to everything in the world. You know what I'm saying? Sure, of course. Pain is what the patient says it is.

However, when the doctor's writing 300, 400 tablets of Oxcon, 80, you don't even, I mean, that's ridiculous. So the boards of pharmacy and medical boards initially didn't want us to refuse these scripts. And as a pharmacist, and this is a little different in a lot of different states, but you basically have a right to refuse any prescription. And that's generally, again, pretty universal. Usually that's kind of like wrong usage, wrong dosage, drug interactions, things like that are what you use for. So boards basically said, hey, don't stop anything. But after a while, we just flat out refused to fill those. So one day, the skinny middle-aged dude comes in.

He's really got bugged out eyes. He comes in, and he starts giving my pharmacist partner, start giving her crap about filling these things. And I heard his commotion, and I went over there, and it was the doctor himself. Oh, geez. Of course, I was having nothing of it. You don't come in and start to be yelling. So he brought in these flyers from Purdue. I shit you not.

He brought these flyers in about addiction and such. And we had a conversation, kind of like I said, almost like you see in painkiller, about, you know, pain management, cancer, and, you know, versus depression pain. And no one not having cancer needs 500 milligrams of oxycontin a day. Now, I hope I'm not offending anybody out there. If you're on 500 milligrams of that kind of day, listen, maybe you're the outside chance. I'm not trying to start anything there. I'm just saying 20 years ago when this was an early drug, I don't care how safe they claim it is. nobody starts off with oxicon as 500 milligrams a day it's insane so to wrap up this long story short

the doc got nailed by the boards lost his license within maybe a year after we started okay so wow yeah so he was up to some fergazi crap and and i don't know whether they were given some back to him or selling them because i know that i don't know anything about like the illegal side but somebody had told me one time that they would sell these tablets for a dollar a milligram on a street. Damn. Which is insane. Yeah, that's really insane.

I mean, the whole point of them early on was they were cheaper, or at least that's what the story tells us that you would, when you would get a doctor who was willing to script these out, if you were going to resell these, you'd take them and crush them up, make them into vials or whatever, and then say, okay, well, this much is this much. So let's talk about that real quick. So let's see. Well, I swear we'll get the games. So what happened at the beginning is they claimed about all this abuse, you know, that they

weren't abused and less than 1% addiction. So what happened was with the old tablets, you could crush them, you would kill the mechanism, the long-acting release mechanism, and basically it would just release everything. So people were crushing them, they were snorting them, I think they were smoking. They were doing all sorts of crap to them, injecting them everything. And that's what caused the first outrage in the early 2000s. And then, lo and behold, they came out a new one where they changed the release mechanism where if you crushed a tablet, you kill all of the molecules, which is actually kind of

good thing for them to do. And so what do they have now? They have a bottle that says abuse deterrent. So we just gave them more crap to sell and have a better way to sell things to show that it's not abused because they put the words abuse deterrent, which sure, it's true, but a drug is still abused because it's still oxycontin. Well, let me ask you this, because there's an interesting twist in the story for dopesick anyway, where they are forced into putting a black label on there. And the way that that black label was talked about. They didn't really get into the details. Black box label, right.

Yeah, black box label, that's what it was. And they made that seem like such a big deal, almost as bad as like when cigarettes had to put cancer warnings on boxes or whatever. And usually that's the death nail for a modification, like you're done if that's on there. Can you speak to that? Is that a thing? Is that a real thing? So black box labels are usually when you get a, let's just say, I'm trying to think of a specific

drug, but usually it would be what a drug word says. hey black box label is if you're a man with this disease state you cannot take this because you'll die that's usually what you get as a black box label okay i just use men for you know right you know right sure sure just for example yeah yeah yeah if you're a six-foot white guy named scott you will die if you take this man that's a black box label okay okay all right so when they so was it i mean i remember what exactly they have on um i don't have my work computer up to see but i don't remember exactly what the black it's probably just that hey these are drugs of abuse and you can't, you know, overuse them. Because what ended up kind of

happened over time is, and they address this on one of the shows where it's like, yes, it doesn't necessarily last as long as it says or certain people will have tolerance and such. And there's a lot of genetic stuff that's going on now to show that you may be a rapid, a rapid consumer in your body, just, you know, it breaks them down a little quicker. So they did start using some of these drugs three times a day, some of the oxicon. I do see some people with heavier pain and cancer pain. Use it three times a day. And that's just, And again, those are at normal doses, not, you're not talking about 400 milligrams three times a day for, you know, for pain relief and stuff like that. Right, right.

But, yeah, so the black box, the black box warning will be something that basically the reps will start having to tell the doctors and then it may curb a little bit of certain prescribing for a little while. And you may see a dip, but it won't kill a lot of things unless that, you know, very rarely is that black box warning saying only, you know, the only people in the world that can use this are, uh, other guys named Brian. It's not going to be that, you know, it's not going to be that restrictive. Oh, I love the idea of a Brian-based drug morning. That's right. Exactly.

It's your designer drugs. We talked about this before. Yeah. Yeah, man. They're really zeroing in on their market. I love that. That's great. There are some crazy black box warnings because there are some meds that just cannot

be used by women, which makes it tough because, again, it's why they try to, you know, the whole border of, the world of transgender and stuff, which there's anything wrong with that. But when you ask somebody for their sex and they give it to you, however, they don't really know, they may give you their new sex,

but your body is still going to be taking it because genetically, you're still the other sex. So you may still react to certain meds a certain way. So there's a lot of studies going into how certain drugs are doing that. So that's something to be very... Oh, that makes sense. If I, so if I transitioned and I went in there to my doctor, let's say a year after, you know, effectively transitioning.

And I suddenly, if a doctor suddenly said, well, oh, all right, well, here you go, Mrs. Johnson. Here's your, this drug, that she would normally just prescribe to all women who came into the thing. You're running a danger there because at least at a, at a, like, atomic level, you may, reject that at the same way any man was. It's extremely rare. It's not as common as, oh, hey, I'll give you this. So chances are if someone's going to prescribe something as rare, they're already going to know. It's just when you have emergent situations, that can be, you know, that can be a hard thing to do. But again, there's just, you know, again, that's what kind of goes into that black box thing where they have such, you know, things you have to really watch for.

And that did, you know, that did curb some things a while. And like I said, Nowadays, almost every single opioid prescription, especially at the state level, because, again, what I do is I do prior authorizations now, and I basically do them for Medicaid, so every single opioid prescription, whether it be Vicodin or Oxycontin or even fentanyl patches, or even something that's kind of a pseudo opioid, like they start nitramidol is still now, kind of widely considered an opioid. So all those scripts have to be prior authorized, so the doctors have to really show that they're using it for the right reason to. keep the crisis a little bit more in check these days. Right, right. That makes sense. Well, I hope you enjoy the rest of the, so you're going to watch the rest of both of these, right?

You're going to watch them both? Absolutely. You know, my wife and I are both watching them. We're kind of going back and forth, like watching the second of one and then watch the second of the other. But they're heavy, man. Yeah, they're really heavy. It's not watching for sure.

No, not at all. But man, the performances are so good. The one thing is going to weird me out about the Netflix one is the, he's uh he's uh matthew broadrick plays doctor the guy from guy from your honor can think of the actor's name um anyway the mob boss guy from your honor plays him yeah anyway it's gonna throw me to see that a little bit because i was so like bingy right that yeah so i'm gonna see a new actor doing that thing doing that weird voice and all that stuff there's some stuff they actually go into a pharmacy uh in that second episode and

somebody starts freaking out and the pharmacist in there and they start talking And I can, I told you, I think I mentioned a years ago how like almost once a week you would see a forgery prescription. Back then, it was much higher than that, back when the peak of the Wild West days of Oxycontin and other opioid and Vicodin use, it was just rampant the forgeries and how you would have to get really good at catching them and you can't catch them. You know, you can't avoid stepping on a landmine every day. Right. Right. Well, there you go. A peak, just a tiny peek into that world, everybody. We hope you enjoyed it. Dan, let's talk games. I'm looking for, let's say we got a big, we do have a holiday come on. You got the whatever day. What's the holiday coming up? Labor Day. Labor Day. You got the Labor Day weekend. You're sitting around going, oh, post-GenCon. There is so much, I don't even know what to go play. So I'm hoping you have some suggestions for everybody. Well, I guess you know. So I had all the solo things, but that's going to take me a little bit longer.

So let me give you a recommendation. All right. And this is a game called Everything Ever. Everything Ever. This is from the same designer. This is from the same designer Nathan Thornton, who did, he also did a green team wins. He also did a medium, which is those two games I talked about a lot in here in the past. Great party games.

And this would be actually an amazing game. game for the Tadpool Meetup because it's just such a great party game. And, you know, the key to a good party game is kind of when you're done, nobody really gives a crap who won. You don't even really probably know who won. I like that. It's like, you have fun?

Then everybody won, basically, is the... Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love this artwork. Oh, it's really, really good. Basically, everybody's got like kind of a hand of cards and there'll be some cards on a table. You're going to have, people are going to be putting cards down that things like, it'll say like every dinosaur movie

or every brand of soap, or different types of balls. Sorry for, it's just... Yeah, it's just balls. I get it. It's just balls. You say balls, we all laugh. I get it.

No, it's fine. I'm apparently a 12-year-old trapped in a 48-year-old man's body. Yeah. So, anyway, those cards are in play. And on your turn, you're going to basically say something that fits in one of those category and something that fits in the other. So maybe you'll say like Jurassic Park and Dial. And then it'll go over to...

Again, we're going dinosaur movie, and so not talking about balls. Try to talk about balls as little as possible because that's not my area of expertise as a pharmacist. Anyway, so then he goes to Ibit, and he's got to do something that fits into those categories as well. You know, something that's not been said previously. If you can't think of something, you're going to play a category card from your hand,

from the three cards you have in your hand, and cover up the one you're blanking on, then name something from that new category. Now, if you can't think of something, if it had a category, you're going to take a pile of one of those, the cards, And then you're going to kind of flip a new category from the deck. If you say something that fits in both categories, which sometimes, you know, they line up pretty well

where you can think of, I don't know, if there was a dinosaur movie that had the name of a soap, you know, Dial Rex or something. 65, you know, maybe there's a soap out there called 605. Springosaurus. Right. So, and then you can get rid of one of your penalty cards. It's, again, all the little other stuff is not,

the little minutia, nobody cares about. It's just a fun of playing these cards And coming up when it, you know, no matter how easy you think something is when it comes to your turn, it's not as easy anymore. Oh, yeah, of course. You know what? I love it. I like when a game can successfully be a good time without pure defined wind conditions. You know what I mean?

Exactly. That seems like, it seems like, not only is that awesome, it seems like really hard to do. Because if you really want to keep everybody's attention and have a great time, normally the whole point of having win conditions is that that's part of it, right? like yeah if you don't win then what's the point but if you can create a game where nobody cares about that really it's just about the experience of playing that's what makes the best party games the best party games great like uh sometimes they have you know a little bit more defined end game of it where it's oh you only play for a few rounds and again that's also another good party game thing because sometimes they just kind of wear out on their own and you're just like all right we're done but if you

have a good you know like green team wins which was also made by the same designer basically there's three different types of questions you have these fill in a blank questions you have multiple choice questions and then you have a this or that and then everybody when you take a certain amount of randomness like five of each type of question you shuffle them up and then you flip one over and then it may say blank berry

and then everybody writes something down on a dry race board and then you flip it over the majority rules in the game so if whoever puts the same berry down they all get on the green team so and then you flip over the next question now you want to stay on the green team because as the game says

green team wins. So throughout the game, you're getting more points from being on the green team and staying on the green team. And then, so you're trying to answer these questions and also stay in the majority. So your answer may change because, well, I know what Scott would answer for this question, but do I know what Hibitt would answer?

And then do I know what Tina will answer? So I've got to try to fit, what's the majority going to answer? This has got... That would make Green Team wins an amazing party game. You know, I'm a big fan of how... things are aesthetically. I really like how this game looks. It just looks like the most easy to pick up and play fun look to it.

That looks awesome. Yeah, both of these, like, we should have done this episode a couple weeks ago, so I had time to get these and time to take them to. You know, what, if I would have thought about it, I should have thought about it because I could have just sent you guys, you know, or sent, you know, whoever's, you know, going to be up there. I could have just sent it up there. And if I am going to bring up there, if I'm going to be up there, I can bring

He's up there. Oh, cool, you have a awesome. Oh, I don't have anything ever. I had a, it's funny because they sent me a little kind of starter pack because the game was being sold to JNCon, so they sent a lot of reviewers, these little starter packs. And I actually gave it to my daughter because it's a perfect icebreaker for college. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, that it is.

I love the subtitle. The party game you've been preparing for your whole life. That's great. That's great. I think that's great. Oh, that's everything ever. Everything ever, yeah, sorry. Yeah, the game of thinking like a winner is the tagling.

it's so good. Yeah, that's awesome. All three of those games, and Medium is, you know, again, one of the greatest party games ever, and it's, uh, and I've talked about that. I'll talk about that another day, but it's just, uh, these, Nathan has done just such a great job at all these type of party games and, uh, and, uh, so check that out at, uh,

floodgate games, uh, for sure. Yeah. Boys, I hope, uh, I hope I didn't bring us down too heavy on, on the, no, no, no, no, no, I find that's yeah, yeah, I agree. I find that stuff super. I mean, it's partly, because of my mind, because of the shows, but I'm, The whole 20-year saga of that weird opioid explosion is so weird to me and so interesting to me. And how it kind of came in under the radar in so many ways. And Purdue Farm is a mess now.

They're not even a company. They're like all segmented out and had to settle for billions of dollars. And they're not even a – I think they're basically bankrupt and assets are being sold off or something weird. And to go from where they were to where they are and all being run by a single. family like it is a fascinating story I'll tell you this too as I get out I've been threatened my life has legitimately been threatened

that I can remember four times that I was actually scared four times one of them was in Mads Square Garden because I was wearing an outer jersey at a ranger game that that's fine I scared there the other three times the other three times were at a pharmacy because of an opioid prescription

wow all opioid yeah wow geez although I'm not surprised to hear one of these a hockey altercation. Yeah, right, right, exactly. That's really funny. It scares me, too, so if that makes you feel any better. Yeah, what you don't want is a hockey player on opioids.

That's what you don't want. Oh, geez. Well, there's plenty of those, and that's for another day. That's for a whole other day. Damn, have a fantastic time. Grats to your son once again and also your daughter for her sophomore year. And may you enjoy laying around naked with your wife without anybody knowing it for the next couple years.

Love you guys. I'll see you soon. Bye now. See, Dan. all right nicely done yeah i wish i wish we could have arranged for a dungeon murder uh deck to make it out to oh shit i keep forgetting i wanted to send you i still have time wait when do you leave you'd have to send it so i'm leaving tomorrow morning but um if you you'd have to fadax it to uh just forgot all about it what i was going to do is send you my because i have a perfectly working

beta deck yeah and that and that one has a couple of changes in the rules but nothing made major. It's basically functional in every other way. I just have been so busy. I forgot to do it. I just forgot to do it. Forgot. You know, it happens. It's totally fine. Don't worry, everybody. Those things are in printing right now. We should have some news as to when those are leaving the house or leaving the factory, whatever it is that's printing them. Anyway, we're getting close. But yeah, I should. I don't know what I was thinking. I may still try to do that. I was going to say, I'll let you coordinate with September because she, I mean, either she or, Um, Amy and Chuck won't leave for Asheville until the day after tomorrow. So if you are able, and you know, if it's cheap to FedEx, then, uh, that'd be great.

And I can always bring it back with me and just UPS it back to you to save on money. But, uh, sure. Yeah, we could totally, yeah, the whole idea in the first place was I, I have other things I need to send you. I was just going to pack it all up, including that sent to you. Gotcha. I just never got around to it. So yeah, I'll talk to September after this, or Amy. And you still can, because as you know, I'm checking a bag.

So I can, if you send all that stuff to September, then I can still take it back home with me. All right. Awesome. I think I'll do that. I have to come here. Excellent. That's going to do it for today's show. Thank you all for listening, watching, partaking, consuming.

Absorbing. Absorbing? Yeah, very absorbent, these people. Like Chipotle napkins. Yeah, or, you know, who are the towels? Oh, bounty. You're like a bounty towel roll. Exactly.

The quicker picker upper. Yeah. this audience is whatever it is cat vomit uh soup oh geez whatever maybe maybe we're going a little taking the metaphor too far we'll back that truck up some uh we're done though thank you all for listening patreon dot com slash tms is how the show is supported so if you're sitting around going man i got this dollar in my pocket that i don't spend all month i don't know where to put it i have the perfect place for it patreon dot com slash tms get in there now read up about why and uh you'll be surprised how cool it is to be a supporter of our show.

Patreon.com slash TMS. Everything else is at frogpants.com slash TMS. Today at noon, I'll be co-streaming with John Jagger for Core. We'll be co-streaming the Gamescom presentation. Oh, cool. From Cologne, Germany. I'm actually going to be watching some of that to get the free

Marvel Snap drops. Oh, right. Spider-Man card and Avatar and all that stuff. So, yeah. I think they have, I think they make you do that on, it's a Twitch drop. isn't it? Yes, it's a Twitch truck. So here's what you want to do. If you want to watch, if you want the drops, I'll watch that one directly. Yeah. But if you also want to see my thing, what you do is you put mine up

main, but you have another browser window open with the other thing. You get your drops. You just mute that window and you still, you win either way. Love it. Love it. Love it. All over it. That'll be fun. So if you're, if you can't catch it, we'll be putting it all up later on archives. So watch for that. That's it, I think. Should we do a song and get out? We should do a song. Before we do that, I want to throw out a big thanks to Bobby Frankenberger. He's going to be covering for me tomorrow. Thank you, Bobby. Oh, yeah.

And have a good time. Enjoy your, enjoy your co-host duties tomorrow. Should be a good time. We're going to bring in seriously. We're going to do recommendals. He'll bring a recommendation but I have it on good authority

that Randy is bringing a very indie, small, never heard of thing that no one's ever seen before. Something that's so totally under the radar absolutely. Oh, that's going to be great i know you won't believe it it'll be just like whoa i need to subscribe to the strangest service to even get this oh it's like one another one of these under the you know like these these uh the services that we've never heard of oh man geez yeah you think that wow plus thing is weird

went to you hear about this oh great anyway that's tomorrow uh big day tomorrow so come on back for that no no show Thursday just a reminder everybody's gone brian's gone i have a doctor thing Wendy's not here. We're just, there's just no show. Yeah, it just is the perfect storm to take a day off.

That's what it was. That's what that is. But we don't, we don't like leaving you guys empty handed. So play a, play a song. Brian, what do you got there?

I get a song. This one came from Barry, who I just had dinner with the night before last. Uh, he says, hello, good sirs.

Ren is celebrating her golden birthday. That's their daughter. On the 23rd of August, that is tomorrow. Tomorrow. Let's party. Tomorrow. Congratulations.

Excellent. He says, we're in Fort Collins, visiting her as she starts her journey into a master's degree of toxicology. Get her hooked up with Dan, too. Should I be worried she's learning about toxic substances and excellent infectious diseases, her senior year? Question mark? For sure. Thanks as always.

And can we hear the original, I don't like bees? Oh, sure. Been a bit. So let's see if I can find it. Is this it? Nope. Hold on. I got it here.

uh bees oh i wish this thing had a search hold on you know what let's do it the old fashion way for barry it's worth it's worth it for barry yes absolutely maybe it's berry maybe it's worth it no she's born worth that what is oh she's worth it she's mabelian somewhere it is i found it nope that's the song version where's the one it's not it either because it's slowed down i gotta find this here it is i don't like bees There you go. Excellent. Well done.

All right. How about a cover of What Makes You Beautiful by One Direction? Great suggestion, Barry. And this is another thing. I like covers of One Direction more than One Direction. This is the band Victims of Circumstance. It is a, boy, an edgier version of this song. Maybe a little ska, for those of you who like ska, as I do.

It came out on their 2012 album, Decades. Here are The Victims of Circumstance and What Makes You Beautiful. We'll see you guys tomorrow. You're insecure. Don't know what for. You're turning heads when you walk through the door. Don't need makeup to cover up. Feel the way that you are is enough.

Everyone else in the room can see it Everyone else but in you Baby you light on my world like nobody else The way that you flip your hair gets me over the rough But when you smile at the ground it ain't hard to tell You don't know You don't know you're beautiful If only you saw what I can see

Then you know why I want you so just to think Right now I'm looking itchy and I can't believe You don't know You don't know you're beautiful That's what makes you beautiful So come on, you got it wrong To prove I'm right I will put it in a song I don't know why you're being shy

And turn away when I look into your eyes Everyone else in the room can see it Everyone else but you Have you light up my world like nobody else The way that you flip your hair gets me over well But when you smile at the ground it ain't hard to tell Tell you don't know you don't know you're beautiful if only you saw what I could see Did you know why I watch you so desperately right now I'm looking at you and I can't believe

You don't know you're beautiful oh that's what makes you beautiful La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La-la-la-la-la-da-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la Baby, you light up my world like nobody else The way that you normally gets me overwhelmed But when you smile at the crown, It ain't hard to tell, you don't know You don't know you're beautiful

Right on my world like nobody else The way that you clip your hair gets me overwork But when you smile at the ground, it ain't hard to tell You don't know You don't know you're beautiful If only you saw what I could see Then you know why I want you so just to think right now I'm looking at you and I can't believe. You don't know you're beautiful, oh, you don't know your beautiful, oh, that's what makes you beautiful.