The Morning Stream - TMS 2533: Thank You For Chering

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

Professional Morticia. Welcome To Laquinta California. The Borg Queen and the Christmas Prince. Strange things are afoot at CVS. Dodge trucks are Ford tough. Embalming For Dummies. Follow Your Dead Dreams. Dongle Nostalgia. Haunted by Smoking Butts. We Like Mike. Red On-Air Prince. Smelling the Right Tree. Elijah Blue Diamond Almond. White Pages, Red Flags! Freakin' For Two With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TMS is brought to you daily by the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS, like John Kelly, Gemmerie, and Lisa Patterson. Coming up on TMS. Professional Mortisha. Welcome to La Quinta, California. The Borg Queen and the Christmas Prince. Strange things are afoot at the CVS. Dodge trucks are Ford tough. Embalming for dummies. Follow your dead dreams.

Dongle nostalgia. Haunted by smoking butts. We like Mike. Red on air print. smelling the right tree. Elijah Blue Diamond Alman. White pages. Red flags. Freaking for two with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream.

Okay, guys, so I'm here at my friend's house. And it's so weird because a couple nights ago, I think on Tuesday, I had a dream that a young lady with blonde hair named Christy haunted me. Smoking butt. The MorningStream. We're not toys. We're action figures. Good morning and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Thursday, October 5th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Ibitt. Hi, Brian. Hello. Hello. He's really good of Miley Cyrus to tell us about her dreams. Oh, my gosh, it does sound like her. Okay, guys. So.

Oh, weird. Didn't occur to me when I recorded it. Also, I don't know why she's so left ear heavy. Okay, guys, so... I think some phones are just... Oh, she's not in my... Like, in my ear, she sounds fine. Oh, good.

That must mean Discord gives us mono output or something, I don't know. Something's, yeah. Although, when I hear your songs on FilmSack, they're in full stereo, so I don't know how that works. Well, good, as they should be. Yeah, they sound great. Don't know. Well, I mean, they come through great.

They may not sound great, but they come through great. How's that? They come through good enough that, you know, YouTube dings us for copyright every time we get it. Yeah, it blows my mind. All right, goal for 2024, learn to play the ukulele or the guitar well enough that I can accompany myself for my own film sack karaoke. I'd be really curious, though, would it, do you think it would still?

Well, I don't know what their robots are like. No, definitely wouldn't. Okay, probably. Definitely wouldn't. Yeah, it's pretty great. Hello, everybody. Hope you're doing all right. Welcome to the show.

It is cold here. We are cold today. It's colder today, high of 67. I mean, fall has definitely settled in on the Denver Metro. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a nice fall temperature. We're at 50 today with a high of, high of 54 is all. Wow, yeah, that is much colder in here. Don't love it.

But we warm up by, let's see. Oh, that's a big lie. We'll be a high of 67 today, big lie. Which is us too. Yeah. Yeah, my new widget is confusing me, but I think I've now figured it out. Oh, yeah, I haven't set up widgets yet. It's pretty good.

Widgets. I don't love the whole... I have a habit. I don't know about you. You have certain computing habits, you know? Lots of them, yes. One of my habits is when I delete something, not always immediately, but pretty quickly, I will click somewhere empty in the desktop, which automatically selects finder, right? Yes, correct.

And then I will command shift, delete, which will empty the trash. It's a shortcut for emptying trash. And it only works if you're in a finder window or a trash window because that's where the shortcut is tied to. So I'm just used to doing that. Well, the way these new widgets work is for you to see them. And it's actually kind of cool. I just cannot get my habit around it is you just click anywhere in the desktop, single click. And all windows move out of the way.

Oh, everything just, it's like, boom, everything's gone. Oh, I like that. Yeah, it all shifts out of the way. And then you just see whatever you want to. see and then when you click again they all come back in it's pretty great i think there's a key on the keyboard that used to do that or still does but um it i just kept doing it to delete things and it'd be on a live show so i'd be talking to you and i'd click and then all of a sudden all my windows god yeah so like the video show the people at home are just seeing a weird blank thing because

your because your thing gets moved out of the way and yeah like everything gets moved and so i can't i had to change it i had to turn that off you can't it's not even not hard but but i do like it as a feature it's pretty cool yeah i do i like it as well uh so now i just a shortcut key it is all i do now so it works fine yeah but they're fun i like also be put them where i want them i like them a lot i can't wait until they put in there'll be more they're going to add a ton right now it's all their basics um yeah it's mostly stuff the phone already did it works just like that uh but i i look forward to when it'll let me do like uh oh i don't know like uh um you know i i use YouTube music now for my music service. I want to have a little YouTube music box in there.

I can just click the button on. That's what I want. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that would be cool. Yeah. It doesn't do it yet. No, I have it on my phone, but I think they have to introduce it here. I don't think you can make your own, or maybe you can. I don't know. I don't understand the world. How's the world work, Brian? Yeah, I don't know. That'll be cool, though, once we get all that stuff going on. I don't understand. But anyway, we got a bunch stuff to throw out to you today. All right. Here's where we're going to start. I think my dog has a drink. drinking problem let me explain okay she this is bring jim rainer the female dog she has a very little tiny body she's half a greyhound or italian greyhound which means she's got that weird barrel chest

and then the rest of her is like super skinny yeah she looks like sand is a little helper yeah exactly just like that yeah and she can haul ass like when she really wants to run uh that part of her kicks in bigger lung capacity like all there's a bunch of reasons why that breed of dog has that big old thing it's it's all part of their running and how they're bred to run and stuff anyway it's all good and well but her tummy is like a little tiny little bag and nothing yeah little teeny little shrivelled up freaking nothing bag yeah and um what she does is she'll eat fine we give her the amount of food that she's supposed to eat for a dog her size and we do it the the times of day that you're supposed to like we're good about all that but this dog loves to go to town on the water when

she's done eating and that's fine most dogs do they that's when they drink for the most part so she just goes straight from that bowl to and she'll do it for way too long you can you can tell it's just too long you just she's got food in her now in this tiny bag of a stomach and now she's adding in a gallon and a half of water and we try to like limit how much water's in the bowl but then she'll move to Ripley's bowl if she doesn't think it's enough and then nine times out of ten she'll walk outside look around for a second and then involuntarily just go bha and now it comes a bunch of water. Oh, really? Okay. So it's. Yeah. So I don't know how to fix that. I don't know what to do. Just I guess stop her. Say, here's, that's enough. You know. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's a vet question, right? Like, all right. Is the, is she drinking water? Is she throwing up because she's drinking so much water after eating? Or is she drinking the water to help her throw up because she knows she's going to throw up? Like how,

long has she been doing the throwing up that's a really good point i hadn't thought of this she's been doing this since let's call it a few months okay that sounds right to me and it's it's also it's not just that she's been pukin it's that she she's been drinking more water in that time so we kind of thought it was tied to her surgery because everything dried out real bad she lost a bunch of hair she was scratching her head so much and was just like she she had a weird reaction to the to the anesthesia and she just got all dry everywhere so we thought well increased thirst means she's you know just it's something to do with that it's the dryness and stuff yeah yeah and she's being normal like she's having all her normal she's doing all her normal shit she just

drinks too much for that little belly of hers and then yeah hurls it i mean i don't think dogs drink water recreationally right i think it's a situation where she's drinking because her body is telling her that she needs water in her. She's one of those, just one or two laps a weekend. You know, I'm a casual water drinker. Yeah, right, exactly. Doc, you know, I'm a light drinker. But no, I mean, this is probably a good vet question because it could be, you know, it could be a sign.

You mentioned, obviously, she's got the tumor issue. Yeah. This could be something related to that. It could be, I know dogs tend to drink when they've got like a UTI and they, they, they, or drinking to clear it or to because their body again is telling them to clear it. That's a good point. Hadn't thought of that. Yeah.

So I would say. But when I do remember, I should say this, when I've seen her go to town and then I catch her early and go, all right, that's enough. She doesn't bark. Yeah.

She's good. And she doesn't beg for water the rest of the day. It's almost like she's just like a puppy almost where they don't know when to stop. It's hard. So if she, but if you don't let her go, I mean, if you don't stop her and she just goes,

she'll always barf or she'll almost always. I'd say nine times out of ten. Yeah. If I just let her go and go and go. And it's a lot. Like she drinks more than Ripley if I let her do it. And then she gets all hard down there with her big, her little belly just gets all rock hard and then she'll go outside. And that even could be like an OCD thing too.

Like she thinks, you know, she's, when she was recovering from surgery, she was drinking a lot and she's trained herself to drink that much water thinking that she still needs it and then she gets sick. Oh, good point there too. So somebody, this is a great one, Texas do suggest putting ice in the bowl and that slows her drinking down. That's a really good idea. Oh, yeah. But then she'll probably go just to Ripley's bowl again. If she, you know, she doesn't drink until she's told herself that she's full. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good question. That might be, that might be, I think this is a good vet question. Ripley, yeah, I think I'm going to do that. Ripley has a funnier way of dealing with water. She'll come in. She's a Weimariner, right? So she'll, she's big. lap lap lap lap lap and then she'll lift up and then shake her head and then before you know it the whole kitchen is covered in her slobbery water that was uh ruby was that yeah she would uh yeah i mean basically it was like uh ruby's drinking don't enter the kitchen for about 10 minutes yeah don't get everything dry off let let let the puddle on the floor uh clear and then you can go in yeah that's fun though in a weird dumb dog way it's kind of a good time yeah i can't really complain about it uh we got a clarification on crem

from the listener. This is from Jody, from Iowa. And I don't remember what we were saying. We were saying that we were talking about how if there's a viewing that they'll embalm, like fill the body with the embalming fluid for the viewing. And then do they keep it in there when they do the cremation? I think it was what we were wondering. Oh, that's right.

It was a while back. That was a while back, right. Okay. So I think you're right. That is the conversation. Jody says in regards to cremation, most times there is no embalming done for a viewing. but if there's a length of time before cremation, then yes, they'll do that. One can often rent a casket for viewing before cremation.

This is what we do with my dad. I don't remember about the embalming part. So I just, I don't know if I was ever told even. I don't know how that worked. Sure, sure. He says also there are no ashes from creation. This part really intrigued me. It says all soft tissue is vaporized, leaving only bones and teeth,

which are then pulverized into a special blender. before they're given back to the family. That also sounds kind of gnarly, but that makes sense, right? Will it blend? Yeah, will it blend? That is. Like, I thought, I thought you were getting ashes. Really, you're just getting, you're just getting ground up bones and teeth.

Yeah, you're getting bone dust. You're not really getting ashes of anything, I guess. Yeah. That's wild. Okay. That is weird. I didn't know this. I wonder if Jody from Iowa works in a crematorium. Could be.

Crematorium. Could be a, what do you call it? all those people. Mortician. Sure. Almost said morticia, that that's a lady. That's right.

Catamia. I had a friend who this, I think he may listen, so I won't use his name. Oh, God, okay. But back in the day, this dude was so into wanting to be, so in our, like,

let's say 18, I knew him from about 18 until about 21 or so. Okay. And he was so dead set on becoming a professional mortician. It's all he wanted to do. So, Brian, imagine a young kid shooting hoops in his yard, like, I'm going to play in the NBA. Or a guy who paints every day, I'm going to be on the wall of the Louvre or whatever your goals. Your goals are.

For him, it was 100% working with the bodies. And he was so excited about it. And he had, I hate to say this. And he will laugh because he knows this is true. he had this kind of long gaunt face with high cheekbones he looked like a guy from one of those old hammer uh horror movies like uh yeah hello welcome to my lair kind of looking guy yeah sure um little bit of dragon portland vincent price uh yeah very much so like totally that vibe that that that that era and uh he he he bought himself one of those um i don't know what you call him it's an embalming stick i guess oh the little needle

that uh yeah the big one you like jam up into their it's kind of awful but you jam it into their ribs or whatever and then drain stuff he bought one of those and kept it around had it in his room uh didn't do anything with it but he just studied it and thought about it like we kind of worried we kind of worried about it we thought what are you going to be it's an odd thing to like get in advance of your career yeah i agree i agree like before he's gone to mortician school or wherever you go i don't know what you do yeah yeah uh His first idea is, well, let me get this tool that, you know, sucks everyone's guts out. Let me get that.

He was such an odd dude. Did he eventually go into that line of work? Oh, yeah. He owns three mortuaries now. He does. Okay. So the look, I mean, the vibe is perfect. Like, he, he rolled right in that.

Like, we used to think, we used to go, ah, whatever. He's having a moment here. He's gothie and strange. And he'll just not do, he'll end up being an accountant or something. No, if you went full on did he had an apparelant. He had an apprenticeship pretty quick after that in a mortuary. He worked in a crematorium for a while. Did something with the county, what do you call it?

The county coroner people did a bunch of that. And then got fully into it and bought in these multiple locations. He was like highly regarded in his field. This is a big deal, this dude. Wow. Well, you know, there's something to that, like wanting to give the family a very presentable send-off, right? Like he's, you know, you could look at it and say, man, dude likes to work with dead bodies.

But you could also look at it and say, oh, he just really wants to make sure that the people that use his services get the best, get the best send-off that they can for their loved one. Yeah. And he loved that part of it. Like he was legitimately interested in like the psychological, how do you work with the family stuff? He talked about that all the time. He had a book that was like, oh, what was it called? It was something like, well, the whole book was like how to deal with the death of a member of someone's family. He was all, he was so into it.

And I just, I just remember thinking, I don't know anybody in my life who is more into what they want to be one day than this guy. And I, and this is a time of my life where I was like, oh, if I could do art or somehow radio, I'd be so happy. I didn't know I'd figure out how to do it, but we did, we did figure it out. But I wasn't that locked in. I was like, well, I'll probably do other stuff because, you know, whatever. There's no internet when I knew this guy. So it's like, you know, who knows what's going to happen? And no, he was like, this is like a kid saying, I'm going to be an astronaut.

And then you find out he's on a shuttle mission later on. Did he actually does it. Follows his dead dreams. Yeah. His dead dreams. But the fact that he bought the embalming stick early on, I mean, it would be like you, you know, you'd say, oh, I'd buy a microphone early on or a mixer. No, this is like you

buying a cube, one of those little cubes that you put onto the microphone. Yeah, buying one of those really early on. Yeah, a thing that's just there for, like a stabilization thing or something. Right, exactly. Yeah. You bought a cop switch. Yeah.

Bought a cough switch, bought a couple of 3.5 millimeter to one-fourth inch plug converters. Yeah. It's really weird. Hey, you know, you knew it. He knew what he wanted to do it. And I admire that. Like, I wanted to be a veterinarian for the first, you know, 10 years or five years of thinking about that kind of direction of my life. And I said, you know, I really like helping animals. And I really like, you know, given somebody back their pet and saying, all right, she'll be all better in a few weeks. And I don't know why she's drinking so much water, but whatever that I don't want the, oh, yeah, I have to put little muffie to sleep and then sit there while the family is, you know, hugging. little muffy and that's the that's the part of the veterinary thing that said oh yeah you know

that's that's i don't remember that part in all creatures great and small that's time for me to figure out something else they want to do i think if i think that way about like uh pediatricians oh gosh yes like what a wonderful thing it must be to help kids yeah i want to help kids and make you know yeah make kids feel better and then it's like oh yeah but i also have to deliver bad news to parents sometimes yeah horrible news like your child has two weeks to live or this cancer is really bad or whatever. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, that's some good clarification there, Jody.

May Iowa respect the fact that a very smart person lives there. For sure. We got also an email or a text, rather. Or is this an email? It might be an email from CVS guys. Someone who works at CBS. Oh, this was a text. Cool.

Just a longer one. Did he send it to you on a massively long receipt? Yeah, at the very end after a licorice coupon or something. Right. Exactly. So we were talking about CBS, how no one seems happy there, or at least I was saying that. And it was a limited sampling, you know. Oh, yeah, that's right.

I was trying to remember what the CVS discussion was, but it was like, you know, going to Walgreens, everyone is like at least seems like they're fine being there. But CVS, you thought, felt like just waiting for the clock to tick and me being able to leave kind of thing. Absolutely. That's how it felt this last trip when we got our shots. And this guy wrote and says, hi, morning stream. I'm listening to episode 2527, which is where we talked about it. I'm a bit behind. I like to listen to you fantastic folks while I can,

uh, or sorry, while I can be in the back at my job at the CBS. And I can tell you, without your show, I don't know how I would make it through the day. You mentioned no one looked happy and you're right. We aren't,

he says. Oh God. Yeah, I know. This is dark. I was expecting, all right. Yeah, we're going to get the defense of like, oh, no, things are fine here at the CVS.

Apparently, Apparently, it's not fine at the CVS. All is they are not okay at the CVS, is our understanding. Strange things are afoot at the CVS. He says, that's why there was a strike. I don't remember that. There was a striket. I don't remember a CVS strike.

There's so many strikes going on right now between, obviously, the All the Hollywood crap. SAG after it is still going on with the Writers Guild is done. But now we've got the United Auto Workers here in Denver. I don't know if it's everywhere, Kaiser Permanente. Oh, yeah, I saw that. We have, they have smaller presence here, but yeah, ours is a big IHC state.

We have a ton of Intermountain Health Care. They kind of dominate. But in California, Kaiser Permanente is permanent. They are huge over there. Yeah. And I guess they're on massive. Promenente. They are, they are Kaiser Permanente.

Yeah, but they seem to, they seem to be all fired up. There's a lot of that going on right now. I suspect you're going to see a few. more of these things happen. But anyway, uh, goes on to say, uh, that's why there was a strike. The upper management is scared and doing a lot of interviews to see how people are doing. There are articles saying management vows to make things better. At the same time, it's business as usual. It's flu season, brand new COVID vaccines as well with a rush of interest over the vaccines. CVS has increased a lot of vaccine times and increased workflow by 300%. Wow.

Uh, they forgot, uh, however, to increase payroll hours. It's all about the money. It turns out. even if you don't see physical people within the store doesn't mean we don't actually have insane backup of work that was due yesterday we have pharmacists who work eight to eight seven days a week that's a lot of them paid time to be at a CBS away from families love the show though it doesn't sound like things are great in there it does not no oh but they're a profitable public company so this is where I this is where I am like so pro worker in this way because this is always companies who show record profits And their employees are miserable or on strike or being laid off. It's gross. It's freaking gross. Like you had one of the best months or one of the best quarters epic games ever had. And they just laid off 20% of their workforce. It's like, it sucks.

What is wrong with people? Gaming needs more unions, I'll tell you that. God, no kidding. I mean, I think Ford, was it Ford that just laid off a bunch of people too? Ford, I think it was Ford. And they're having other issues with, like, I guess they got a bunch of weird engine blow-up problems or something, some big recall coming.

Things aren't great at Ford. No. Dodge trucks are Ford tough. No, that's not the phrase. How do they go? That's the interesting thing. It's interesting to just say, yeah. What am I thinking of something?

McDonald's is Burger King delicious. I think everybody, you know what? It's funny you bring up fast food. needs to learn from in and out because in and out is a company or is a place that is always packed that it's always selling like crazy that everyone loves to go to yeah and their employees are some of the most well-trained efficient people I've ever witnessed work in my life and they pay those people a freaking living wage they don't pay them some dirt they're like at the top end of the scale and fast food for for what they pay people like

you can live on what they pay you there more of that yeah right exactly Exactly. Learn from that. Other fast food places. Yeah, learn. Let's all. Yeah, Culver's is similar. Every time I go into a Culver's, DJ Stengel, and I've probably been to a Culver's, I honestly, less than 10 times in my life have I been to a Culver's. But the people there are always happy. And it seems like, and someone mentioned Costco, this is true there as well. You always hear stories about it. When you pay your employees well, they work better. Your company makes more money. You are more profitable. yeah done yeah it seems like a simple formula how could you all haven't figured that out yet big companies

big corporations just poorly run it's all got we've gotten to a weird crescendo right now and things are going to get weird yeah uh okay couple things some some audio brian we like the audio right we like the audio somebody sent in an audio or some uh recording a voicemail yeah voicemails now one of these is someone i think you were already informed of this uh yes but we found out who our chips came from. And so... Yes, our special Lay's Funnions flavor was. He's quite the frog pants

literal patron, and I don't mean just Patreon. I mean, this guy has always said, like, Kim mentioned something about one of the kids, one of the babies on our skim show. And like two days later, we got something in the mail that was from the same person. Like, he just is so

thoughtful. Anyway, here he is. Hi, Scott and Brian. This is Mike Pacholic. And I'm also known as anonymous chip sender. I already contacted Brian and let him know that I sent those chips. I was a day behind when I heard the call out asking who sent the chips and I would never try to poison you guys. So I'm glad you enjoyed him and I'll talk to you later. Yeah, I trust all packages from Mike. He never lets us down. Mike also sent me the sign language for dummies. So he's he sent me butt butter, you know, the night of the day before the MS-150 ride two years ago, like I get

this package that's got, I think Pop Tarts minis, which were freaking delicious, and some of that chode, chode grease for the, for the, for the ride. He's a super cool guy. He's a really cool guy. He's very thoughtful. It tells me, it tells me that in his personal life, he is probably the king gift giver of anyone in his life. Right? Exactly. Like this, an anniversary will come around. Don't worry, Mike Pichelich got you covered, man. He's just a good dude. But that's not the only call we got. We got one about... Oh, we got another one. All right. You know that whole La Quinta thing? Some people say La Quinta. You say La Quinta. Whatever. We got some clarification from a dude on this. So I think he's in the know. I hope anyway. Here it is. I just wanted to see about La Quinta discussion earlier this week. La Quinta is Spanish for Zikinta and it's pronounced La Quinta. That's it, by... Oh. Now what I'm hoping is... Yeah. This caller is of Hispanic descent.

I'm pretty sure he's not. I mean, I don't know. I have no way. I have no way of knowing it. I think that might be, hey, listen, glad you, uh, glad you said it, not me. Yeah. I, uh, I don't know for sure. If you are, great.

If you're not, eh, you know, a little on the, uh, I don't know, on the weird side. And borderline. It's, it's not fully in, maybe borderline. No, Lequinta is Spanish for next to Shoney. is what Likinta Spanish. Yeah, we've already established that, I thought. Yeah, that's good. Exactly, yes.

I've never had a bad time at a Likinta, though. They were fine. I've never, ever stayed a Likinta. I don't think I had. Oh, I take that back. I stayed in one in Simi Valley when we were visiting my aunt and uncle for Thanksgiving or Christmas, and the whole family was in town, and so it was whoever called dibs on the bedrooms at my aunt-uncle's house. They don't have enough room for everybody to stay there.

So I think Tina and I end up staying in the Likinta, but it was right next to a... Shonis. Well, I do you. It was right next to a shonis. But it was a block away from... What is the hotel... I'm going to start out hotel.

The restaurant. It's a Mexican restaurant that's big in California. There was one next to the John Wayne Airport, and I had lunch there before a flight with Sam Jane. Oh. Oh, not Torchies. Hold on. El Torito. El Torito. Thank you, Michael Hennessy.

I've been there, too. El Torito. Aided El Trito, it's like, oh, man, I wish we had these in Colorado. It was, you know what? It was Christmas because I remember the TV in our hotel room automatically came on to TBS, I think, or whatever. And it was nonstop a Christmas story with Ralphie and the... Oh, just repeating it. Yeah.

Just repeat. So, yeah. I remember that. Those are, they still do that? They probably still do that. I bet they still do that. In the days of streaming,

doesn't it feel like a waste of your time and your energy as a television broadcaster? Yeah. To me it does. It's like, we're going to nonstop play the same movie because you totally can't do that with your Amazon Prime subscription.

Yeah, if it's streaming somewhere, you can put it on repeat. And you won't get commercials. So. Exactly. You can also posit it. any time and I don't know. I mean, the whole point of it is so that any time

during the day, it's like, oh yeah, I want to see that movie, I can watch Christmas story. I don't think they put it on doing that because they want somebody to sit there and watch it over and over and over again. It's just for convenience that, well, whatever time of day you happen to turn on the TV, you can watch Christmas story. Yeah, guess what, we can do that with streaming.

Maybe, I don't know, maybe mix up your programming schedule for Christmas season. Yeah, like make your day, your marathon day isn't just one movie, just start playing. I'm sure you can, exactly. Exactly, yes. I'm sure you could do better. Yeah, look at Hallmark Channel. They do that non-stop Christmas Hallmark stuff, but it's not the same movie.

Well, it kind of is. It kind of is. It's the same movie with different actors and different titles. Sort of the same plot every time, color scheme, bad actors, all that. You know what? I want us to watch one. I have never seen a Hallmark Christmas movie. I make the joke about, you know, the whole big business lady comes back to the small town where she grew up and hooks up with the florist who wants her to

come back but no she's too busy and she's got her life and da-da-da-da right we should uh we should have the uh the the tadpool pick a maybe a new one and we'll and you and me and i'm sure kim and tina because they have to well kim will want to yeah uh we'll watch a uh a hallmark a hallmark christmas show and then we'll talk about on tms i would love that um i found a list on IMDB has a list of best Hallmark Christmas movies. These are based on, I think, reviews. Right now they say the first one is crowned for Christmas. After getting fired from her job as a maid at the Ritzie New York Hotel,

Allie reluctantly accepts temporary gig as the governess to a young girl who is part of a powerful family in Europe that lives in a castle. And then she falls in love with Rupert Penry Jones. Yeah, probably some sort of prince, yeah. The top two are directed by the same guy. guy, this Alex Zam guy. That sounds like a... We could do that.

I'm still saying like we do one that's like a brand new one for 2023. Oh, totally. Yeah. We should do that. Just to, you know, I don't know, just to make it random. Some of them are really bad though. Like, yeah. Like real bad.

So we might get lucky and we might not get lucky. We could watch the movie checking it twice, starring Kim, Matula or Matula and Kevin McGarry. What's the plot of this guy right here? Yeah, let's see what you got there. What do you got? Oh, I don't have a, I don't have a plot. I have the trailer.

All right, so they're walking through a town. There's a hockey game. He's the coach of a Little League hockey game. She certainly dresses like she's from the big city. Oh, here we go, about. Here we go. Here's about. A journeyman hockey player falls for a real estate agent in a career crisis when he's traded to her hometown.

Oh, he moves to her hometown and moves into the cottage and her hockey-loving family's backyard. Wow. Wow. Hilarity will ensue there at that house. Hilarity and love will ensue. That one we can watch as early as Friday, October 20th. Wow. Yeah, they're starting early this year.

Here's a fun one. A Prince for Christmas. Wanting to escape an arranged marriage. A European prince. flees to the United States. There he meets a struggling young waitress who may just be his one true love. Aw.

That sounds like shit. Here's one that has the unfortunate title Never Been Christ. Okay. All right. Home for the holidays. BFF's Naomi and Liz reconnect with high school crush Chris Silver, a complex love triangle forms, forcing them to take stock of their lives

and find the value of friendship. starring three people who were guest stars on Charles in charge. Wow. Once. Wow. Yeah, once, of course. Boy, there are a lot of princes, princes hanging out with the... Because there's one here called Heidelberg holiday.

I think the popularity of that one you said was what IMD qualified is the best Hallmark Christmas movie. Yeah, yeah. He said, we need more of those. More prince. More princes and... Well, these are all... Look at it. A Christmas Prince.

A Winter Prince. Christmas with a prince I really Yeah There's so many Oh my gosh All right well Oh a Christmas prince

The Royal Baby Hold on a sake Eichor is saying That we already Film Sacked a Christmas movie A Christmas Prince On Film Sacked 494 So the one you just mentioned

What We actually No we didn't Did we? We did that Apparently film sack 494 I've got to see this Hold on

I don't buy this Remember when you you asked yeah there it is right there uh a christmas prince quick sack 494 is this okay hold on search on riga yeah indv is did we really do this and we really did it at christmas prince yeah i don't remember this order goes undercover as a tutor to get the inside scoop on a playboy prince she gets tangled in some royal intrigue and ends up finding love i don't remember doing this at all oh this had alex creak in it i don't know Alice Creek, she's the Borg Queen.

Oh, yeah. Okay, now some bells are ringing. Rose McGiver, Ben Lamb, Alice Creek, she was the queen. Okay, I kind of remember now. I don't, man, that's a weird, man. I don't. That is.

You remember you would ask me about, you know, I think we talked about it at the end of film sack last week, about, is there ever a movie that we did that you don't remember doing? Right here. Yeah, this is the one right here. This answers that question.

question definitively. Oh, this is a Netflix deal, which might explain why we did it. I don't think it's even a hallmark joint. Uh, Rose McIver, I do adore her. I like her. She's great. I like Ben Lamb, too. It's a decent cast. It's just a shitty movie. Well, sure, yeah. All right, so we'll

work on that, folks. We'll do a Christmas movie, but we won't put, we won't make Randy and Brian have to go through. No, no. Why would we hurt our friends like that? Why would we do that? Exactly, because we like them. We like to keep them. We enjoy them. Here's this.

I don't watch the news. It's time for some quick news brought to you by. Coverville today might be happening a little bit early. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to try and make it happen at noon, 12 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv. Slash Coverville might be happening an hour early. Anyway, Steve Miller, you know, the guy who flies on a big old jet aeroliner and wants to keep a rock in me, babe. and that horrible Abercadabba song.

He's turning 80 today. And so we're celebrating by playing some of your favorites like The Joker, fly like an eagle, jungle love, swing town, and more. Coverville.com, I'm sorry, twitch.tv. I'm sorry, twitch.com. I want to reach out and grab you. I hate it. Yeah, I hate it too. Such a bad song.

It's like, wow, how long did it take you to put the water skis on for that one, Steve Miller? it is the worst one plenty of other great hits though you know totally take the money and run come on that's an awesome song by the way one of those that I mentioned a little song called Jet Air Liner a cover

Steve Miller didn't originally do that one oh I didn't know that done by a guy named Paul Pena oh never I don't know who that is wow that's a cover that's cover got to hear the original Speaking of music, real quick, this is not, I wasn't planning on doing this, but Brian, can you guess

that I'm going to play a tiny, this is kind of like name that tune, but you don't, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it, but it's not really, because I don't have like multiple, like I can do it in one note or anything like that. You have whatever I get, whatever little song snippet I get. All you're going to get is this, but I want you to tell me what television intro theme this is from. Oh, okay, all right. So it's just a piece. Here you go. What's that from? Oh, that is, um, that is the end of, uh, don't do, don't.

I'll do it one more time. That is the end of the theme of, is it Brooklyn 9-9? No, it is, uh, what is that? That's older. That's something 90s. You're, you're smelling, you're smelling the right tree. Yeah, is it, Melrose Place? You are, uh, let's see, is that correct?

Is it correct? Oh, it is ER. It's ER. Here's the long version. Yeah, I would have gotten it. I would have gotten with that little extra. Yeah. I think another Mike Post joint, I believe.

Yeah, I think so. It was, now that I'm done with the Sopranos in the background watch, my background watch is ER. That's what I'm doing. Oh, nice. So Anthony Edwards still alive. And George Clooney is still pining after the, well, she was only supposed to be in the pilot. at Julianna Margulies. Yeah, she had a,

I watched, if it's funny you say that, just watch the pilot, and the pilot said, at the very end of all the credits. Yeah. And it was one of those and guest starring

Julianna Marguerlees. And then the very next episode, and that one had no intro, no music, nothing is a weird pilot. I didn't like it. Yeah. Michael Crichton business.

Yeah. Then the second one comes along, second episode, and it's got the full intro with what's his name, Peter doing his jumps on the ground and does the fist pump in the air thing and all that.

Noah Wiley, yeah. Yeah, all that stuff. And then she's a full cast person. Like, they must have loved her in the pilot. She was supposed to die as a setup in the pilot. And they're like, she's really good. Let's keep her. She's great.

I like her a lot. She is. Speaking of the Soprano, she was. Hobbs dog says Marguless. Is it Julianna Marguless? Marguerlees? I've always heard Marguerlees, yeah. Same.

We'll have to look that one up. Here's a story about Cher. Speaking of Hollywood elite types. Here's a little story. I'd like to tell you about a big tall woman. You know so well. How tall is she? Turn back time.

And then da-da-da-de-de-da-de-be-ba-da-ha-ha. Well, here's what she did. Or she didn't do anything. Well, maybe she did. But she's being accused of hiring men to kidnap her son. Oh, no. Yeah. Okay.

Court documents filed by Elijah Blue Alman's wife. Marie Angelina King. Almost, yeah. Marie Angela. You threw an Ean in there, which didn't need to be there, but Marie Angela King. There you go. Marie Angela is a weird single name, though. It is, yeah, having it all mashed up together.

Because it, all those vowels, Mary Angela. It's very weird. Anyway, they're alleging that four men removed him from a New York home, or New York hotel room. Foreman. On their anniversary in November of

2022. The paired reportedly been at the hotel attempting to save their marriage after filing for divorce in 2021. The BBC has contacted representative for Sharon, Mrs. King for comment. This, by the way, is this Elijah Blue Alman is her son, and he's 47, I believe. In court documents filed as part of the proceedings for divorce in Los Angeles Superior Court that had recently been made public, Mrs. King said that Mr. Alman had spent 12 days at the hotel working out our marriage. Boy, I'd love to be able to stay at a hotel for 12 hours 12 days just for whatever i'm sure it's a nice hotel yeah that's what you do in your share son i guess exactly yeah you get to uh you get to live it up yeah interesting so you

they think that share like intervened to say no i'd like i don't want my son and his wife to work things out she's bad for him i want to uh yeah kidnap him out of that situation yeah and so that's the claim there sooner for it she has yet to make a statement anything publicly about whether did or didn't do this. But that is a, that's that kind of a serious crime, you know, paint for something to do. Did they, when they kidnapped him, did they go, we got you, babe, they ran out of the place? Yeah, they did. They totally did.

Absolutely, they did. And if they didn't, they screwed up. What is the point of this if you don't say that when you kidnap a share relative? I believe this is all because of share. And he wore a Rocky Dennis mask to pretend like he was. shares movies. I take the music route. You take the movies. Yeah, we go, we got all cover. Now we just need someone to do the Tony Award route or, you know, the stage right. Exactly. Then we got the trifecta.

Let's move on to the story. This is pretty funny or interesting. If you bought one, I guess it's a pain. But Apple declares it's $17,000 solid gold watch. They introduced in 2015. Right. They called it the zero or the series zero is now obsolete, ending repairs and servicing plans for it. They're not going to fix it anymore if you have problems of it. Yeah. They launched the first generation. Oh no, that was the first gen. Sorry, this is 2018. This thing came out. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yeah. I can't believe it's been since 2015 we've had the watch. That's weird. Yeah, no kidding. Anyway, in addition to the standard models starting at around 349, there was this 18-carat gold Apple watch edition. No, it wasn't 2015. Yeah, so really,

here's the, here's the news story. Apple discontinues repairs and service. on the watches they introduced in 2015, including the gold one. Yeah, that's a better headline. Because it isn't, like, they didn't single out the gold one and go, sorry, everyone else, you're fine. Everybody who bought the trailer all the one, we're still doing it. Apple discontinue service on eight-year-old products, including one that was made out of gold.

Yeah, that's lame. These were never upgraded to watch OS5, which arrived to 2018. So they've been kind of dead in the water for a while anyway, But I would just say this to people who have 17 grand to spend on a watch anyway. Yeah. You knew what you were getting into. Yeah. You throw money.

You bought a product, a technological product. Doesn't even matter that it came from Apple. Doesn't matter if it came from Microsoft or Google or whatever. They stopped supporting old products after a while, and that's what happens. Yeah. If you're going to hold on to something that long and expect, if you expected more, you were wrong. and you should melt down the gold and then you're good. You're golden.

Or I'll bet those things sell pretty well as a relic. Oh, I'm sure. You know? I'm sure. They don't make those anymore. I still would love it if a 20th anniversary Mac landed in my lap. That weird, that weird like panely thing. Yeah, dude.

I would love all of the Hallmark ones like the 4. Yeah, and the G4s with the weird lampshade. I never had one of those. I had the The duo The laptop So it was a little power book That would slide into a hole in a desktop

And then when it slid into the hole It would become a desktop machine It was like a dock But you'd get all the extra ports I mean it's basically what people do now with A cable A thunderbolt cable Yeah

Thunderbolt cable like four slots on it Tap tap tap tap now I'm at work Fold it close it and then put it into the thing like a VCR tape and yeah people love their docking station days man I don't know everyone always talks fondly about their 1990s

docking it really is so dumb because I could take I have a laptop here I can just plug a thunderbolt cable into it and instantly I've got oh keyboard malice peripherals attached yeah I mean you know it's it's I love progress but having I'd love to have that I want the old like an old original

84 Mac would be fun I don't even care if it works I just want to have The, you know, the Harvard. And then, oh, and that weird G4 cube, that... The cube would be cool. Nobody bought. You had, for a while, I remember, I think the first time you had out-of-town visitors over to your place in, for a Nurtacular, you had the grapefruit Pixar lightstand Mac, right? It was like a half grapefruit with a stick and a hinge on it and then a little panel that would move all around.

Oh, I might have. I have that one? You had it at the time back in 20... I must have. You remember seeing it. It had been 2011, 12. Something like that. No, no.

Sorry. It would have been 7, 8, 9, or 10 were the house ones. Right. I have, you know, I think I've got a photo of Christ lookalike Sebastian standing in front of that, in front of that IMac or whatever it's called. Lumpstick and Square. Is that what it is? It's called the Lumpstick and Square. Yeah.

Yep. Boy, that guy, Sebastian. No, was it Sebastian? Yeah. Was it not the Jesus one? Yeah. We got the name, right, right? Yeah, not mashup man, Sebastian.

Totally different dude. Was he called Sebastian? I don't remember. He's the one who called my house. The first time ever I'm talking to you, I'm like a guest star on ELR, and he finds my number. Yeah, that was weird. And he calls the house while I'm doing your show. Yeah, that was weird.

To, like, ask me to tell you something. Yeah. Or, like, I can't remember what the deal. deal was but he's like uh team is like oh no he's he's on a podcast right now he says i know i'm listening to it um tell brian to tell scott such and such it's like so weird do we ever find out how he found you or tracked you down oh i'm sure sure he just he just white-paged my name and number like i guess you could do that still yeah that's still a thing we do that's still a thing uh well we don't know where he is now it's hilarious though that if we wanted to try to find

him right now would be impossible like how would we find him oh yeah i know but we could listen back to that episode of eLR that first time i guessed it it will be able to hear his name there because i said by the way someone so i wonder if i have that handy for a clip here hold on that could be funny that could be how long let's see uh ELR um i bit maybe i put in the name yeah maybe do you remember the number you were on gosh no hell no it's too long ago Um, let's see. How did I do these? Extra.

Oh, extra life I called them. Okay. Oh, I just did numbers. A bit. Yeah, I don't have a way of find it. We got some sleuthy somebody out there. Maybe you'll track that down. We can hear our high squeaky voices or something.

Like here's an example of how we sounded in the year 2008. Here you go. Episode, they can have the guy that did Smeagle walking around in a green suit. Holding his eyes back, that is brilliant. Oh, my microphone. What the shit. Well, listen to you. How funny.

I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know which one you're on here, but I would love to know. I'm looking to see. I would love to track that down. Yeah. Obsidian. Are you there? Yeah.

Oh, weird. Oh, it's so old. That's so weird. I know I'm the, I know I'm the, they get to be one of your co-host that you have to say, Brian, are you there? Are you all right? Are you okay over there? You paid attention? Well, you never knew with Brazilian boy. He was always up to something. I always had something going on there. All right. We're going to take a break. And when we come back, my sister Wendy will be here. We're going to talk about a follow-up we got about that whole internal roommate thing.

And Wendy liked it. She says, let's do that. And I said, okay, let's do that. So we'll do that. But we need a song first. So play that. Yeah, this is, boy, we're going to listen to a 19-year-old that I think is going to be one you're going to hear a lot more from. Her name is Isabel LaRosa, and she's got a brand new single called Older. She has got an incredible voice, and there's some weird audio tricks that she does on this thing that almost sounds like she's getting further from the mic before the big powerhouse chorus kicks in and stuff. It's very interesting. She's currently on tour with Tom O'Dell, and she was selected for. TikTok's Elevate program

so we're going to hear a lot more from Isabelle La Rosa not Isabella Rosa but Isabel La Rosa I guess you know

she should just merge the two and become Isabella Rosa Leaning put a leany at the end And now I got a whole

another lady Isabella Rosalini Yes I'mabella Rosalini Perfect Anyway this is her brand new song It's called Older Once again

Isabel La Rosa I think I need someone older Just a little bit colder Take the weight of your shoulders I think I need someone older Baby

Am I a little secret 18 I'm old enough to keep it Yeah guys my age just Start the same I'm young and that's okay Think I need someone older Just a little bit colder Take the weight of your shoulders

Think I need someone older Darling Hold me while you wipe my tears Falling You say I'm wise beyond years yeah guys my age just aren't the same i'm young and that's okay i think i need someone older just a little bit colder take the weight of your shoulders think i need someone older

I know I'm younger But I'm always running an end For the son Each is another Until I know you'll understand I need someone older I think I need someone older, just a little bit colder, takes the weight off your shoulders,

think I need someone older. For sale, one horseless carriage with four-man top and whippletree, tires good as new, except for a little rust. What do you offer? I'm dying. And we've returned. Who was that again? That was Isabelle Lerosa and her brand new single older.

I appreciate the pause. Absolutely. How else are we going to know, you know? We won't know otherwise. Otherwise, it's just Isabella Rosa. Yeah. Isabella Rosa. That's right.

It sounds like something I'd order at a restaurant. Give me the Isabella Rosa. When you're here, you're Isabella Rosa. You're Isabella Rosa. I'll explain the situation to Wendy. Don't worry. Oh, look what we have here. It's my sister Wendy.

She is here joining us from the Twin Cities, which I'm told you guys went from 100 degrees a few days ago, and you're going to have snow this week? What's going on about that? I feel like snow is a rumor. I read it on the Internet. We do fluctuate more than any other state in the union, for sure. I think it's about 100 degrees often in the year fluctuations.

You sound like you still got that cold. Oh, it got real bad guys. It was not just a cold. It was like murdered. Did you get the, did you get the COVID's or what was it? Do you know? It was not COVID,

but it was just like, I think the regular old flu. And I did not realize you had to be getting a flu shot by what, September 1st. Come on, people. We got ours too. It was rough. We got ours like two weeks ago.

It was 91. on Saturday or Sunday. So they had to cancel the Twin City Marathon, which they've never ever done. Too hot for that? Oh, wow. Too hot. And they do it in the middle of the day

because normally it's like nice and breezy and cold and people love it because it's always a colder run. Yeah. And it was definitely not. So they had to cancel it. They didn't want anyone die. Dang, dude. Yeah.

And then, you know, tomorrow will be 50. So. Makes perfect sense. Yeah. Perfect sense. Of course you will, yes. Well, it's good to have you back. And I'm glad you're,

so you're feeling better, I hope. This is like a rough week. Yeah, a little bit. I just sound terrible. Yeah. Well, that's all right. It's great. I've never known anybody.

And my sister Wendy can hold her cold pretty well. I remember that time we were doing, you were pregnant with Peter. And we were doing one of those grocery rally things you were doing back in the day for the school district. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so we all came out there to help and volunteer and stuff. And Wendy was really sick and pregnant, which meant she couldn't take a lot of meds or anything. And I've never seen you so sick, but work.

as hard as you were working. And I remember thinking, I'm like, she's a freak for two today. She's this way. She's ill. She's ill and working her pants off. And she has a baby in there that's,

you know, got the sick housing. I know. Truly, though, I was thinking about the other day. Like, I don't ever, like,

I think of a cold. Like, I didn't cancel a single client when I had COVID. Like, I don't. I think it's because I'm in my house. It's easier to not.

Like, if I had to go in public, it'd be very different. But sometimes I'm like, I should try to lay down. But, yeah, I should have been a railroad builder. A railroad builder. I have energy. It's what I have to say.

You do have energy. And I tend to fight through sickness. Yeah, well done. Yeah, so here I'm. Ready to work while I'm sick. Wendy got the genetic lucky card and I did not. I get tired all the time. Wendy never gets tired.

I don't understand it. Well, all right, then. It's good to have you here. Let's read this thing. So we got a little bit of a follow-up on the internal roommate thing. And I think a lot of people may relate to this. And it's kind of its own thing, which is why we're going to read it. You mentioned you may have something in addition to it.

Did you have something else you wanted that? Okay. Yeah. So let's read this one first. All right. We'll start with this. Hi, Scott, Brian, and Wendy. For the purposes of the show, you can call me M.

So I'll just assume this is like James Bond kind of thing. Yes. I like that a lot. Oh, James, you're a relic. I have really enjoyed the series on The Voice in Your Head and I wanted to reach out after hearing the episode

on September 14th was a little while ago. I thought it was great that Wendy provided a book as a resource so I was hoping for maybe some recommendations in that regard.

My inner roommate is obsessed with mortality. It is similar to Scott's tendency to see an older movie and think about how all the actors are now dead. I still do this all the time. Yeah.

But a little bit more extreme as I go about my day-to-day business, the voice frequently reminds me that things are pointless because we are all going to die anyway. This has been true for as long as I can remember. For example, I remember specifically that as a child, I would sometimes feel guilty that my room was messy because if I happened to die while I was away from the house, then my family or someone else would have to sort out my mess. I never thought about this, or sorry, I never thought much about this memory until I mentioned it to my partner, and they told me it was pretty abnormal thing to feel.

I'm currently doing better, but for a period of only a few months, recently I found, sorry, I found these thoughts to be debilitating. Trying to get work done. I have a demanding job or be active slash eat healthy or even make new relationships can be a challenge because my roommate always reminds me how temporary things are and how death is always around the corner. I have a strong support system and I am generally able to quiet the voice and still move on with my life, but it sometimes is very obnoxious and leaves me exhausted after doing basic things.

I don't necessarily think that the thoughts would be classified as depression, but I don't want to die, because I don't want to die, and I find a lot of joy throughout my life. I think this is why I am finally writing in about the roommate discussion, because that feels more accurate. I tried out therapy, but couldn't find a good fit. I would love some homework or resources on how to quiet my roommate while I look into maybe trying to find another therapist. Love all the content, love the show, though, M. so there's the there's the basics of it all um i i honestly it feels a lot like what i do except mine's a little goofier and i don't get like super depressed about it but i do think about this quite a bit you do think yeah you think about mortality a lot yeah it just kind

of comes up and it's not so much like oh it's just we're all going to die anyway so what's the point you know i don't get like that ever but it's but i do notice like i don't know i'll see the lead singer for Tears for Fears the other day. It's a weird one, but I saw him. Roland Ours the ball in his Gandalf. Yeah, and his Gandalf. Get up. Yeah, and he was singing so good. Like, he hasn't lost a step on his voice. And he's singing, everybody wants to rule the world, and it's blowing my mind. And then I see the video and I go, oh, my gosh, someone hold him up. He's about to die. Like, it's just like the first thing my brain goes to sometimes. And it feels a little like this.

feels a little bit more extreme and obviously he's really disrupting his life but um anyway wendy where do you want to where do you want to go with this and yeah okay so uh first of all his partner bless them um but it's not that abnormal yeah it's abnormal when you don't do it you're like what like it sounds morbid or like just it's strange for you but i have met many a people many a person who um their their roommate will talk in these ways. And really, ultimately, we all have kind of an individual, think of it as a set list for our roommate. They like certain topics and they're going to go there, right?

So I've met many people. And often what they'll describe, it's kind of similar here, being very young and like really young. And they remember laying in their bed at five years old and thinking about having an existential dread. like moment and debt because death is really the one thing uh maybe there's more but you know it's at least the universal thing that none of us can handle we can't overcome it we can't stop it we can't change it we can't right it's coming for everybody um and then for some people that that thought that concept it's like it it just is on repeat for the the inner thoughts right and so

that is not all that uncommon. It's maybe, you know, maybe the dinner party. It's going to be one out of ten. So you're not going to, you know, maybe get everyone to have that same experience. I don't know the exact numbers, but I've met many people. And they always feel sheepish about saying it, right? Because it really is something everyone has, you know, it's very, can be very fear-based, can be very scary. People get real religious on you all of a sudden. Like you just, you don't want to touch it with. You know, it's very, you know, it's very, it's very fear-based. You can be very scary. People get real religious on you all of a sudden. Like, you just, you don't want to touch it. You don't want to touch it most people and also people get real freaked out if you talk about death. It's just sort of socially a thing that maybe isn't as common to talk about, right? Yeah. Okay. So that being said, we have a challenge here where it's become problematic rather than it's a thought that flits across their mind or something. You know, it's like when you say, oh, there's probably, there are germs on doorknobs, don't forget to wash your hands. And so you, you're a common sense person and you wash your hands occasionally, but then there's this time where it's like, oh, I got to wash my hands all the time every minute of the day. Whenever there's a sink, I'm washing my hand.

That's kind of what we're talking about, right? Like that level of, right? So for example, you know, when there's a warning on a movie or a TV show or something where, like, you know, adult themes, suicide will be discussed, you know, or anytime on the show, you know, I should do it and I forget sometimes. But like a trigger warning, right? Because the reality is for some folks, they are in a different mental space and it can just exacerbate problems that are already occurring. And for someone like this, it might be just that, like, it's not the suicidal thinking, but the thoughts of death. You're going to see some, you know, post on Facebook or something that's just like, remember you are small and that the universe is, you know, some way of trying to get someone else to be a little more humble.

And you go right to a certain place, right? So life is the trigger warning for death, truly, like enough a baby's born. If your roommate is really obsessed with, you know, sort of thinking about some of these topics, you can just find it anywhere, okay? The problem is not that the thoughts ever occur. The problem is that they get so much space and then cause problems. So like, I'm trying to remember what he said about sort of recent months. He found them to be debilitating, right? So trying to get work done, be active.

Any choices that are like building a future, right? Maybe I got to do this to get paid. I want to be healthy in 10 years. So I got to start eating well now or whatever those like future thinking things might also specifically trigger this of like, hey, you know, none of this is worth it. This effort you're about to put in is not worth it because you're just going to die. Everyone's going to die. Right. Right.

So when that's all happening, that's when it starts to interfere. And I, this is so reductionistic, so forgive me, but anything you find in the DSM-5 that is the statistical manual of mental disorders, right? Anything diagnosable, everyone has a just like a smidge of it. And then when it gets bigger and bigger, bigger and disrupts your life and you cannot live the life that you want to live, then it gets into diagnosable territory. Then it's, you know, pathological, or not pathological. Yeah, pathological. That's the word. That's the professional word. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah. And so that's what's, the movement has gone from,

hey, maybe this is a thing that's happened here or there to now it's causing problems. So the question is, yes, find a therapist that fit so you can really work through this. Great. Sounds good. In the meantime, and I think this is where, you know, this isn't going to sound too simple, but, and it's a little bit along with kind of the series we did about the inner voice, is actually meeting the voice, interacting with the voice. And sometimes I will have people, it's as simple as, hey, try to bring that up right now. Let's connect with it right now. Bring the voice up.

Like, what is the voice telling you right now? Yeah. And do it a while it's hot. right now strike it while or strike that iron while taught right like get it now and what you can sometimes what sometimes happens is that whole roommate retreats just like oh no don't look at me oh i didn't know you're going to shine the spotlight on me yeah my whole job is to get your attention to tell you how scary the world is but if you look at me and say hey what's up let's talk about how scary the world is uh do i don't have any job past the trying to get your get your attention

and why you're doing something else, right? So it's the, this is where mindfulness meditation or any of those other sort of things come into play where you are giving your attention to the thing as a, the thing that's trying to get your attention, you actually give it your attention, right? So this is why a therapist might be helpful to do that practically with and practice that and have them guide you as you are connecting with, okay, that part. And then as we've done in the show before, maybe this will be familiar to this person, but just like, what does it need you to know? Like, you're doing your taxes.

And this part jumps in and is like, oh, my, you're going to die. Everyone's going to die. No, this is worth it. Don't pay taxes. You know, if you kind of turn to it and just say, okay, what do you need me to know? Well, you're going to die. You missed a decibel point on your, uh, I just wanted to alert you to that. I just don't have other words.

All I know is we're going to die, right? and really like what is it trying to get your attention for and 99% of the time i'm going to jump to the answer that's 99% of the time is it's trying to protect you against a thing there is no protection for so take a relationship that you're a part of you is going oh something's off here right like it's just trying to warn you this is maybe not good for you and sometimes those inner warnings are highly tuned to frequencies that were trained in you as a kid, like, oh, strangers are dangerous. I wonder why anyone has anxiety, right? Like, you're already tuned into these are not safe things. This is bad. And so

suddenly you're faced with meeting a nice stranger and you're like, everything in me says, oh, no, run. So it's not appropriate. It's just not appropriate. But here's the thing. Those things can be maybe a little more measurable. Whereas death, just, I mean, there's no one to argue with, right? Because we don't get, I mean, we can try seances. We've made a lot of attempts as a species to try to figure this out, right? But it is really the greatest unknown. And I think this can show up in a lot of ways. People can have a lot of versions of, I can't control the ultimate uncontrollable. So I will, I have part to me trying to control things, right? And so, hey, don't waste your time on this or that and, you know, just we're all going to die, it's a really quick way

to like stop you from whatever you might be doing. So then you've got to get curious. Why is doing this alarming to that part of me, right? Why does it not want me to pay taxes? Oh, I don't know. Duh, I don't want to. Or I don't want to eat better or whatever, right? Is what I'd be interested in it didn't say in this, but is there any times where like you are having an absolute. salute blast and the voice jumps in and goes well you probably should stop this is pointless you're just going to die or is it just protective of like crappy experiences yeah i don't know yeah i'm trying to think that's that's happened to me before it just be the guilt of oh yeah it's good that you're having fun but this all this other stuff is going on and that you have no control

over kind of thing it's just so it's just so primordial to everyone like your reaction to it It may vary, but everybody will eventually not exist anymore. Every single person hearing this, us here talking. I'm working on AI to stop that for me. Yeah, we're trying real hard to do that. But that is so built into all your decisions. So whether it's hypersensitivity to that or you just only reserving it for when the bear's chasing you, it's still, you know, you still have it, right? Because your survival instinct is just, it's your humanity.

It's what you, what else do you have? Everything is about surviving. So I guess I'm not surprised that, what am I trying to say? I'm a little surprised that more people aren't more freaked out all the time. 100%. Yeah. 100%. And really, we have a lot of protections, psychologically speaking, so that we aren't thinking

about this all the time and that we are getting up and doing our jobs because it is all pointless. But he's not wrong, right? In one sense of it. But our systems are absolutely built to get us to do things to survive. So maybe this, you know, this version for him versus somebody else, someone else, they're never going to think about death. It's never going to cross their mind. Like, what? That's morbid. No way. Well, you know, because that is that person's way of avoiding and being protected from that inevitability of oblivion or whatever, right? Like their brain won't let them do that, whereas his brain is doing this other version of protecting him that's just got a different take, right?

And so the best way I've ever found with anyone and whatever their roommate is obsessed with talking about is to get to know that part really well, to get to know that roommate. And so it's really helpful to have someone help you because they're at. outside of you, not inside of you hearing, you know, being in that space. Yeah. So it's, it can be really helpful. So definitely, uh, I would, because here's the thing, maybe you don't have depression now, maybe you know, maybe you know, but anytime anything is screaming at you all the time, it has, it takes a toll over time. It's exhausting, right? He described that. Um, being exhausted. It's, it's interesting because you mentioned suicidal thoughts and that seems

antithetical to survival, right? It seems like that should be in people's minds not the thing you would think of. The more I think about that, I've thought about this a lot. If you're thinking about that and not everyone's the same and I'm not trying to apply this to anybody who may be going through this, so just know that when I say this because I'm very uninformed about this. But it seems like maybe it could be part of the same thing. Part of your survival is you want to control where you're headed, and if you can't control it, then you take it into your own hands to control it. It seems like that's connected in some.

It's a weird kind of survival in a weird way. Yeah. It is. It is. And I feel like we had an episode on this a long while, it was a while ago. But again, trigger warning. We're talking about suicide. But this idea of like how it overrides everything that is biologically necessary.

right, that's happening to keep you live, it is like maybe a warped or distorted version of protecting you, right? That it would end. Because again, the brain's not like, oh, you know, it's good for you. It's good for you. It's vegetables, exercising regularly, getting some good sleep. Like, it doesn't do it. It does not motivate you towards those behaviors that are always good for you. It motivates you for whatever it thinks is going to keep you alive. and whatever it might be, right? And so sometimes it's lying, and often it's lying. And then sometimes it is, it just can get caught in different loops, right?

And can get stuck in certain ways. And neurochemically, we can, we understand some of that from a chemical perspective. But, okay, so you're right, Scott, I think that can be, it's a distant cousin to that. And, you know, so you, people can have thoughts of death and never have suicidal thoughts ever, right? That's possible. That's true. You can also have, never have any of these experiences and then suddenly have suicidal thinking, right? So the shift to suicidal thinking is what you need to be wary of.

There is a wonderful phone number. Everyone can call. It's 988. I don't know why it took us this long to get a three number, but we've got it, people. The suicidal hotline, people are amazing and can talk you through all that you need to be talked through. So call that number if that's occurring and get some help. there is help that the thinking can feel so persuasive and so strong and so real and it's not

until you can get out of that distorted thinking and you'll need help getting out usually so if you're thinking it's kind of getting worse call now do it now I mean it feels like human life in all of it's wherever you're talking about it from birth all the way to death is such a hard topic for people because you know just going through this stuff with kim sister it's you know part of me is like man we're we're way kinder to our animals when they when they should you know they're starting to deteriorate we're like well second tumor on the on the dog it's time we put her down and you do a very respectful thing and you and you do all of that we don't do this to people we drag it out so

long no matter how much pain they're in it sucks like it sucks us yeah own feelings but But that talk, but that conversation is hard on every level. Yeah. Because I guess I'm just marveling at how humanity, it's so ingrained in us to survive and to make each other survive that when there's any kind of discussion around any of it, including this, it's just complicated, you know? Right. It's not simple like, well, my Ford started sputter and I think it's time for any of car. You know, we don't even think about it with other stuff. Who cares?

comes to human life it's like so hardcore all the time yeah and you can't and there's a great book amy bloom wrote i think it's called in love anyway it's about her husband being diagnosed with um Alzheimer's Parkinson's what was it at Lou Gehrig something that like his death was pretty imminent and inevitable yeah and he was still in sound mind i think it was Alzheimer's um and how she tried to find a way for, you know, some end of, end of life ending care and how that's impossible in the United States. We are, we are top in the world and making sure you live forever. And we have billionaires who's like, that's their whole gig too. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. And anyway, she had to go to Switzerland and it's quite a story.

But this idea of like, you know, we're very, very motivated to have life last. longer and so that's both from our own internal experiences and what we project on to other people and there's a biological need there but what it really means truthfully is that we are real bad at grief we're really bad at maybe our feelings about any of this right there's some really fun studies you can read about with psychedelics at john hopkins on the death and dying, and that's where some of the first studies have been, were allowed to be done. And folks who were, you know, terrified of death and dying, and these were, you know, they were terminally ill patients. And having a couple of experiences where they felt one with

the universe and their ego kind of went offline and just, you know, just how, how quickly they were able to start to process the inevitability of their death and actually feel less afraid. And it's just fascinating, right? Like, oh, we can do something chemically to someone's brain to change that is pretty wild. I think religious people can have a similar thing or someone who has said everything they needed to say to everyone and whatever their deathbed ending was they could find peace. I mean, I think we get there maybe, and I think a lot of people don't get there.

But I think we're not great at this. And so he comes by all this honestly. And then here's the other question I would ask and have his therapist work through this with him, is how was this talked about when you were a kid? Like, did that roommate just come out of nowhere? Because I have met people I feel like it kind of does. And then others, it's their mom was real anxious and safety was obsessed about and don't get hurt and don't die. And, you know, so maybe there's a piece of that there or, you know, what else happened in your younger years where the concept, what was the concept? What was the concept of death light. Did you have an animal that died? How was that treated? You know, you just start to get maybe curious as to the background for why the roommate is talking so much about this kind of thing. Okay, so yes. Okay, they wanted a book because they're going to find a therapist in the meanwhile. So a book that talks actually uses the term roommate. A lot of people use the term roommate, but this one specifically is it's basically like a nice little Buddhist book about

figuring some stuff out. Anyway, it's called the untethered soul. Maybe you guys have heard of this. I have. Michael Singer is the author. I don't really love his writing style. I'll be honest. But the concepts are great.

And I think that would be a good before you get your therapist in order. Maybe grab that book. And one thing I don't like about it, the take is sort of like, don't listen to the roommate. Whereas I'm the opposite. I'm like, listen to the roommate. Find out what this roommate needs to tell you, see if we can. see that's interesting because your your style is very much like confront your thing you take care of your own stuff and that makes a lot of sense to me we had somebody I'm not

going to name people but somebody in the chat earlier had said oh I love therapy Thursday but I don't think I can listen to a segment now that I've you know because we previewed that it was a follow up to some of the inner um the inner roommate stuff and they had to bail and it got me to think and no no shade or shamed their direction for this at all you know you got to do whatever you got to do. But my initial reaction was this is what we do when our survival instincts kick in. I understand this idea that if you, it's almost childlike. Like if you close your eyes, nobody's in the room, you know, that old idea. I do that with some stuff where I just don't want to deal with it. And so I will pack it away and push it away and not look at it directly. Whereas,

there are plenty of people in the chat since, and certainly since we've been talking about this concept over episodes who have leaned into it in a very, you know, aggressive way. They want to do it head on. And that's just an interesting illustration of kind of the whole problem, right? Like it's still, it's emblematic of what you're talking about overall. Anyway, just something I noticed. Yeah, exactly, which is why, you know, and this is in the end, why a trigger one, matters when one is offered, right? Or maybe we should offer them more or something. And it is not because someone can't handle something or not. It's because everyone's at a different place with different things for different reasons. And you're not ready at times. Like,

rightfully so, you're not ready. And I think about the things, I've been doing this thing with some friends, which has been fascinating. You guys should really try this. I have these friends from a long, long, long, long time. And there was one friend who kind of just disappeared, like kind of moved herself out of the group forever. And so about 25, 20 years. I don't really know what happened to her. I kind of do, but not really.

And she doesn't really know what happened to me. So we've been doing this, sending each other messages, and we're taking like five-year chunks and saying what happened in our life. It is, first of all, I thought my memory was worse than it is. Apparently, I can remember if you just give me a chunk of time to talk about. But as we're doing this, I'm realizing, like, in our early 20s, we had some really hard stuff that we were dealing with.

And to be able to, like, convey it now to someone who's very mature and emotionally intelligent and cares about me and I care about them. Like, it's just been so cool. It's like we were kids together, and now we get to be adults of college kids together together with all sorts of skills we did not have at 22. But, and now we can go through that history and talk about how we were feeling, what we were doing. Anyway, it's really, it's really been fun. But the realization is, whoa, life was actually kind of hard.

I forgot. And it's because we tend to, we're in what we're in at that moment. If you had asked me then to explain anything I'm saying to you today, I would not have been able to do any of this. I could not say any of these words. I had no experience. But that was when dad died. That was the era we were talking about in 2000 to 2020. 2005.

And just all the ups and downs and uncertainties in my life were just all over the map because that's what that age is for. And it was particularly tough. But I couldn't articulate any of that. I don't even know if I would want to hear half of the things I can say now, right? Yeah, yeah. Because you're just not ready at different stages and phases of life. And so if you ever have this thought, like, I do not understand that.

Or I think people are making it up when they say blank, just hold on. Because time will teach you that there is more to every story. Just maybe at this point, you don't maybe get it, right? But also to honor where you're at, too, I don't, I don't recommend you go rushing into something. You are not ready to hear. It'll work its way in, don't you worry. So anyway, I appreciate you sharing that. It's interesting, too, that I do a little of this with doctors, but the old phrase, what I don't know won't hurt me.

I think some people use that in ways that are detrimental to themselves. Like I know as a side example, dad hated going to the doctor. He just refused to do it if he had to, fine, but he wouldn't schedule anything. Like mom would make him go or whatever. He just didn't like it, didn't trust him, didn't like Dennis, didn't like any of that stuff. It just wasn't the thing. It was a thing for him. I don't know if it's generational or what, but it's very likely that had dad been more actively doing preventative visits to the doctor,

may have caught that enlarged heart thing and done something about it. And you could very well be with us today. So I find myself doing this a little bit, not quite to that extreme, but there was a time where when I was working on my blood sugar, they're like, well, you need to be testing your blood sugar every day. And I told my doctor, it's like, I got to a point where I was like, I don't want to look at it. I can't look at it anymore.

Because even when it's good and it was, I was improving, it just was this constant feeling of like, what's it going to be? what's it going to be oh that number's okay we're okay okay oh next time here it comes and it's going to hurt and you know and she actually said i want you to stop doing it she says first of all your numbers are in line right now and that's good keep doing what you're doing but also this is not good for you mentally and then she did what you always do which just says you know this could be something you work on in therapy but i think a lot of people do that they just think well if i don't know what if i don't know something's going on like i

I had a friend said, I'm not getting a colonoscopy. And I said, why? He goes, ah, you know, you only find stuff if you're looking for it. It was kind of like saying, it's such a weird thing to say, right? But he really meant it. And he really didn't go and still refuses to because he doesn't, he's like, ah, it happens, it happens. That's his attitude. And I used to think, wow, people are brave about the unknown. But I actually, now I'm convinced that's him showing like almost extreme fear because he's done an extreme measure to cover it and made sure everyone around him knows I refuse to do a thing and I'm super cool about it even though internally I'll bet this is a hard thing for him anyway yeah 100% and when you watch someone slowly die of colon cancer

you change your tune right like and that's sometimes just experience right like just having more experience or opening yourself up to like because And here's the thing about aging and death. It's common for everybody. Why are we all ageist? Because we're terrified, right? Like, it's scary to see yourself melting in the mirror. It's scary to, you know, suddenly realize, like, oh, what I used to think was the oldest human on earth is actually my age.

And now I'm there. Or seeing people you know and care about get sick or whatever, right? Like, this is in everybody's future, this is 100% guaranteed for all of us. I don't care how many billions of dollars people spend to try to make this match. It's not going to matter. It's not. And also, the long, long history of people trying is amazing, right? Like, this is not news.

They've been doing it forever. Anyway, but, okay, so I wanted to tie into something for this emailer because I got another email, like the exact same moment. You sent me this, and then I got this one. And I thought, wow, these are interesting. And they tie together. So this is from no name and this is it. Okay, real quick.

Hi, I love your show. So I may be dying and I need to know what I can do to make it easier in my family. It is just me and my wife and my mother and my father and her mom. So what should I do to make it sure it goes smoothly for them? Wow. That's all they sent you is just that? Dang. Okay.

Right. So why is that solemn for us, right? Like both, you felt it? Everyone feel about it? Yeah, I mean, because you know. So, like, you basically hearing that they both know the end is coming and they're able to ask a question that really sounds like, yeah, I know it's coming. I've accepted it. We've moved on past that.

Now it's time for me to think about what I leave behind for other people. Yeah. I mean, I hear that and go, wow, what a mature, sensible, like, I don't know. I don't even know how to describe that because that feels so hard to do. yeah like I would think I mean maybe that person just is very pragmatic about everything in their life and that impresses the crap out of me um because I know I would be not thinking that I would be like what am I going to do how am I going to do it all I there's all the stuff I haven't done like you just have all those all those normal you know things to say but it's still like you said

the reaction is still kind of a solemn one it's still like oh man you know and the thing I wanted to do is juxtapose the two situations. Yeah. The roommate in the one email is trying to get this guy to act

like he's dying. Right? Yeah. And then the other one is dying. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And it's like, all right, what do I need to do? Right? I'm, I, that's very short. I don't know anything else, right? But we're going to just use it as

how it sounds right which is like and this this is one of the hardest things about being a human being is that the suffering you experience that comes from thoughts that comes from feelings that just show up right stories you're telling yourself loops you get stuck in that all of that suffering about a thing and in this case about a thing that's not happening right or it's It's happening slowly. It's happening like it is for anyone, right? But, you know, other than that, like a robust, happy, good life. Healthy, doing all the things.

And it's chipping away at this person's energy and their actual life versus the realness of the other person. That's actually happening. And what people will describe is clarity that comes. comes, right? Like when the truth is there, you know, that just shifts your brain. Our brains do something very different when maybe it is actually time to die. And that's the thing most of us maybe don't know because we don't talk about it or we don't read a book about it or we don't follow up on, you know, death and dying studies, you know, this is not something we're focusing on. And so I wanted to also share that just as, because I want to answer that question.

But also just motivating the first e-mailer a little bit of like a part of your brain is telling you about death a lot. You need to spend some of your life energy to figure out why so that it doesn't take more energy than it needs to. It's just working harder for some reason than it is in other people. And believe me, it's still working in other people. It's just working too hard to get your attention and you've got to get curious about why. And then for the other person, I mean, we could take that like a whole other episode, I guess, but my first thoughts when, you know, what do you need to do to make it easier on your family? Because so many people, like your, your Scott, your response makes sense why we're all living

till, you know, on medication and machines as long as we possibly can because it's really hard to let go of life, right? And so if we think about, I don't know what this person's family is like, but there's a wife and parents and a grandparent. And so just know it's going to be really hard. It's going to be really hard for them. So more importantly than what we think might help them is you've got to ask them what might help them. You can also find resources where people have had others do for them. who are preparing to pass that's been really helpful.

You know, maybe it's that you write a lot of things down. Maybe that you make some video recordings. Everyone's going to decide how they grieve and what they will look at or not look at. So I don't recommend forcing them to have anything. Like, you know, like your picture pops up every time they turn the TV on. Maybe don't do that or something, you know, like, but, you know, what is it that you kind of consult with them a little bit and also what feels right to you because this is hard. You deal with your own death and then you're managing everyone's emotions around you at the same time.

It's a really difficult position. So to engage your support system in doing that and, you know, sort of if you have the time to be thoughtful about this and ask them, you know, create some rituals or memories or things that you think would be helpful. but check him with them too because they may or may not like for example let me just make this clear I never want a surprise party so anyone listening who thinks anyone else would want to just

know I don't like it either I hate him so if so if Adam reaches out and says hey guys I'm doing a surprise party stop him tell him not to do it she doesn't want that I don't know this yeah and so what you'll realize

as you are really consulting with other people it's often what they want you want to be clear and when you're gone what did they need and want because that you know but also recognize what you need and want matters too and so some real conversations need to be had and and so there's the irony of the two emails right one is a conversation internally and the other one is a conversation externally yeah of like being able to to navigate the hardest part of life because nobody has actual answers for or no one has the right formula for everyone. You know, we're also very removed from death.

We're dying in hospitals away from what, you know, other people are caring for you versus at home. You know, I think that's changed, changing a little bit. But we're just, we're not good at this and that's okay. But we can get better at it. Yeah, for sure. This has been good. This is a good week for me to hear all this. So I'm glad that we went down this path.

And I hope that person can get some, you know, some relief. Check out that book, Wendy talked about, The Untethered Soul, The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael A. Singer. And hopefully the new therapist is able to help you better than the old therapist. Yeah, I would hope so. Why is it, Wendy? And if you end up Buddhist, it's not my fault. Wendy, here's a, I have an aesthetic question.

How come all these books look like they're almost identical, do you always recommend? They all look like the brochures you get at a mortuary. Yeah, it's really weird. Like, they're all green. They have a green stripe on top, a kind of aquamarine blue color combo thing for the middle. It's always soothing. It's always these. It looks like a unicorn.

Yeah. It's weird. All these books. I have a question. What should it be? I don't know. Like, I honestly, my, you know, I read a Lodrian painting. I read a lot of fiction.

So I'm not a good source on this because everything I read has got, you know, big orcs on it. It should be a scantily clad barbarian holding a massive sword. Yeah. Saying, find your inner self. But for whatever reason, they're always this color scheme. It's always this weird thing. And it's fine. Maybe that's just what this subset of books is.

It's totally fun. People, yeah. I love that. What should it be. And you just need to be calm when you pick it up. So I think that's the blue tendency, right? I think you're right. I think a nice opposite would be funny

Like just like a skull with like The untethered soul Yeah Takes on a whole other meaning When you see it that way All right well this has been good Wendy I hope your cold continues to abate Or your flu

Whatever it is that sucks Anyone else get it or you're the soul get her? Just me In fact I think Elliot gave it to me And it was just like a little sniffle On a tiny sore throat for two seconds And then I got the mom version, which was awesome.

Yeah, the old people version is always worse. The kids come home. It's nothing for them, whatever. They're playing Fortnite by five. Yeah, but Real Steps is starting soon. Oh, good. So please go to real steps.org and sign up and it's going to be a blast. And people are already signing up, which is great.

I haven't even sent an email out. That's supposed to be what I was doing, but I had a cold. Oh, well, yeah. But yeah, please, it's going to be a lot of fun. It starts, what's the month? November 6th. So you have to tell November 5th to sign up. One month. Yeah.

One month. Oh yeah, today's the 5th. You got one month, everybody. That's plenty of time. Get in there. Get that done. Wendy, have fun. I hope you never get a surprise party and I'll see you soon.

Thank you. Bye. I'm just like her. I hate them. Can't stand them. I like throwing them for other people. That's fun. Yeah.

Like I'd love to throw a party for whoever, but I don't want to have, I hate it. Is it? Is it less? about the shock of the surprise and more about the oh my god you guys are going to so much effort and just a part just throw a party for me and tell me about it don't need to go to all this effort kind of thing yeah i don't i don't care about the shock of it in fact most of the time you can kind of see these things coming but i don't know i just feel guilty the whole time yeah scott make sure you don't make any plans for october 19 yeah what's happened before um all right

that's it for all that quick reminder about our schedule moving forward Brian though may do it early coverville might be 12 keep an eye on twitch dot TV best thing to do is uh just go over to twitch tv slash coverville ring the little bell so you get the notifications whenever i go live yeah like you said mike early i'm meeting uh len peralta for dinner tonight um what's he doing job own radio's own len peralta he's in town uh for a conference that uh for the company that he works for us so we're going to go out to dinner that's great yeah i've seen len one time in my life oh really that's it that's it saw i'm up the vagus thing and that's it never anything since yeah or before and we've had these opportunities like when i was in ohio we had tentative plans

but then he had something come up and we couldn't make it work and so it's been years and years and years so i mean len peralta is uh in a way responsible for us working together i think because It was me talking to him, being a guest on jawbone radio, and him saying, hey, I'm going to be on ELR to celebrate, no, the instance, to celebrate my hitting 40 or something on my hunter in World of Warcraft. You should listen to the show. I'm like, oh, I don't play that game, but I'll listen to the show. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. Now I'm going to play the game.

Yeah, I think that is how it started. Even though, without your knowledge, I was listening to Coverville before that, just happened to be a listener. And then that all happened. It was like, oh, okay. And then, yeah, the rest is history. So we may, we may have still, you may have still invited me to be on the LR and had nothing to do with it. So really, F, Len. Yeah, F, land.

We don't need it. Go to lunch with yourself. Go to lunch with yourself, dinner, whatever it is. No, that's great. Tell them high. And I'm, I'm excited. You guys get to see each other. That's cool.

Yeah. Be great if Be Real. Cues up right at the moment that we're sitting down to dinner. Just ignore your next one and have a late one. That's how you do it. That's how I sneak those in. Well, yeah, you could do that. but the better thing to do is to do your right one,

and then you get the two bonus B-rings that you can use. Yeah, there's the whole gamification of the thing. It doesn't quite work on me, but I take your point. Oh, it does for me. It's like, oh, my God, I've only got two minutes. Pull the car over, quick. I know I've got a passenger in my lift. I like that you're committed to it.

I look at it sometimes just go, oh, I'm not doing that. Yeah, no, it's really more what it's like. Anyway, so possibly at 12 p.m. So really, in about an hour and 10 minutes, coverville, Steve Miller Band. Yeah, it sounds good to me. Core tonight, 5 p.m. for Core, unless something changes, I'll let you guys

know, but that is the plan currently and lots to talk about, so check that out. I'm going to try to play 15, 20 minutes of the new Assassin's Creed today, because it just came out today, and I'll be able to talk about that tonight. Couch party tomorrow at 10 a.m.

should happen as well. I don't know what we're watching it, but we've been talking. I think Monica has a creep show that... She wants us to watch. Do you still have your shutter? I don't, so I'd have to either re-up that or I'd get, I bet we can find a complex version of it. Maybe, maybe, yeah. Someone somewhere. So, yeah, we're going to do some Halloween business there.

Play Retro will be Friday this week, and it might be there forever because Dunaway's got a change in hours at work. They moved them to a four-hour work week thing. Oh, nice. Four-day work week? Four-day. Sorry, not four-hour work week. You see, a four-hour work week really makes us, we might want to consider reststand. scheduling film sack, too.

Yeah, no kidding. We could do all kinds of things. No, I think he just frees up a little bit of his Friday. Whether it's permanent or not, I don't know, but we're going to do it at 2.30 on Friday. This week, it was because of my stuff, but we're going to be talking about syndicate and the incredible legacy of the game syndicate. Wow. That'll be 2.30 Friday afternoon, and then FilmSack this weekend, The Conjuring. I don't know if it's Saturday or Sunday this week.

Is it Sunday? I'm hoping it's Sunday. I think it is because I think he told us he needed all of October. I thought so, too, but last week, you know, we had the wrong day because that was one, that was October. Well, I guess we would have had it September, but we moved it to October because we thought he needed a studio for all of October. Yeah. So I'm glad I'm not the only one that was under that impression. I think there was some confusion there.

But we'll ask him today. We'll clarify all that. Either way, you guys will get an episode this week. Last night, funniest comedy I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, the con, the comida during, the comadur. had you seen it about Annabelle this is what it's the subtitle had you seen it before because you were saying you weren't sure okay you had

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That'll do it for today. We need to do some music, so I'll bet you brought us something. Of course I did. The Berm wrote in and said, Guten Morgan, Schadenfreude and Bildungsromm, and no birthday or any event. Just wanted to dedicate a song to a great member of the Tadpool, Bombats. This one goes out to him. Also, can I get a hunk, ah, either version.

Thank you, for what you do. Hell yeah. Found the real one here. Oh, good. I think. And, no, there he is. I knew he was right there. I like that guy a lot.

We also have him. You know, we'll always keep that. Yeah, for sure. Why not? All right. This is a song called Gloano Bauer, but you might know it better as a song by Wetus called Teenage Degger. This is a German version. It's got a little oompa in there, so it's almost like a German polka version, performed by Di Stiflata.

Acha, she's stifljasia. Sure. Yes. It's something like that. I get the D-Rae, because it's D-I-E. I didn't say, die Stiefelziacha. Intense. You're doing really good German.

I'm impressed. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, solid. This is a single day released in 2016 again, covering the Wheatiss song. I can't remember what they say in place of Iron Maiden. Maybe it's craftwork. I've got two tickets for Kraftwerk, baby.

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be a deep. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Power Oh, see in the day no in the freshen, I look at all the air. Oh, see that no, he fleesoo. Get more at frogpants.com.

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